| 00:00.13 | docmur | well how do you fix it? |
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| 00:00.56 | themill | You'd fix the source package and rebuild the binary package. I'd wager that if it has "DEBIAN5" in the version string then it's probably not for any supported release of debian. |
| 00:01.24 | docmur | It's meant for Debian 5 but i want to test it on 7 |
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| 00:36.31 | Ooze | god dammit |
| 00:36.33 | Ooze | it did it again |
| 00:36.41 | Ooze | server just shut down first time all day |
| 00:36.50 | abrotman | Temperature! |
| 00:37.29 | Ooze | dude no temperature sensors |
| 00:37.53 | Ooze | I set up snmp to send logs to the other machine |
| 00:37.57 | Ooze | gonna check now |
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| 00:40.16 | abrotman | Ooze: You have to have sensors ... |
| 00:40.32 | abrotman | Oh, is it a 486? |
| 00:40.44 | Ooze | Here's /var/log/snmptt/snmpttunkknown.log |
| 00:40.45 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/igaritolav.hs |
| 00:41.04 | Ooze | Well it does have sensors, but there's no debian driver from HP |
| 00:41.07 | Ooze | :( |
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| 00:42.25 | blackflow | Ooze: you do have one temp sensor available tho :) |
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| 00:42.34 | blackflow | it's not cpu, but it can be indicative of the temps in the chassis. |
| 00:42.41 | Ooze | My hand? |
| 00:42.44 | Ooze | It doesn't feel that bad |
| 00:42.47 | blackflow | HDD and S.M.A.R.T |
| 00:43.01 | Ooze | Eh I guess, I wouldn't think it's shutting down because of HDD temps though |
| 00:43.15 | Ooze | Anything in that paste? That's what I got back when it rebooted |
| 00:43.16 | abrotman | Ooze: did you try running 'sensors-detect' ? |
| 00:43.22 | Ooze | Sent through iLO |
| 00:43.24 | blackflow | Ooze: uhm, no. but it might show overall temp increase leading up to the crash |
| 00:43.30 | Ooze | abrotman, yes, doesn't find anything |
| 00:44.09 | blackflow | that paste is just a bunch of unrelated numbers |
| 00:44.36 | abrotman | Ooze: how old is this computer? |
| 00:44.41 | Ooze | 2004? |
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| 00:44.54 | Ooze | HP DL380 G3 |
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| 00:46.14 | abrotman | it should really have sensors .. that doesn't make sense .. have you checked your BIOS (or checked for a bios update) |
| 00:46.35 | Ooze | abrotman, no debian driver |
| 00:46.47 | abrotman | don't buy it, HP is a supporter of Debian |
| 00:47.15 | Ooze | http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=390828&lang=en&lang=en&cc=us&cc=us |
| 00:47.17 | blackflow | and Debian is just a distro...perhaps you meant no Linux driver? which doesn't make sense even more :) |
| 00:47.21 | Ooze | Not in 2004 |
| 00:47.29 | Ooze | There's redhat and stuff |
| 00:47.46 | abrotman | That's not what I mean |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | the driver sohuld be the same |
| 00:48.10 | abrotman | Ooze: use the 'script' command, show us the output of 'sensors-detect' in paste.debian.net |
| 00:48.11 | Ooze | Then why are there a dozen different releases of it for linux? |
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| 00:48.36 | Ooze | sensors-detect just has me go through the setup, I enter YES every time, at the end it says nothing found on your machine |
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| 00:49.19 | abrotman | still suggests a bios update |
| 00:50.06 | abrotman | finds it really hard to believe a server from 2004 has no sensors that work with Linux |
| 00:50.16 | Ooze | http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=390828&lang=en&lang=en&cc=us&cc=us |
| 00:51.44 | abrotman | What am I looking for there? |
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| 00:52.09 | Ooze | You said you can't believe there's no linux driver |
| 00:52.13 | Ooze | There are, just not for Debian |
| 00:52.22 | abrotman | it would be in the kernel already |
| 00:52.41 | Ooze | well it can't detect any sensors |
| 00:52.46 | Ooze | Which would leave me to believe I need a driver |
| 00:52.49 | Ooze | There's nothing in the BIOS to turn on |
| 00:53.48 | Ooze | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIHAxh9HTeg |
| 00:53.54 | Ooze | With a cool soundtrack too |
| 00:54.21 | abrotman | Again, BIOS update? output from sensors-detect? |
| 00:55.55 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/ujubigovel.hs |
| 00:57.09 | Ooze | Here's what I find when I look to update the BIOS on my machine http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/ProLiant-Servers-ML-DL-SL/BIOS-update-HP-Proliant-DL380-G3/td-p/5954517 |
| 00:57.13 | abrotman | it found some stuff, but not the right stuff? |
| 00:58.07 | abrotman | so it gives you stuff to update? you may want to check revisions before you go through that |
| 00:58.28 | abrotman | at any rate .. if you can't tell how hot the thing is, it's going to be really hard to rule out temperature problems |
| 00:58.36 | Ooze | Yup |
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| 00:59.22 | Ooze | What if I just stuck a thermometer in there? |
| 00:59.32 | abrotman | so, yeah, see if you can update the firmwares .. See if it gets you anything |
| 00:59.50 | Ooze | Update the HP firmware or what sensors-detect printed out at the end? |
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| 01:00.32 | abrotman | See if there are updates for the firmwares on the hardware |
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| 01:01.01 | Ooze | http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/products/service_pack/spp/index.aspx |
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| 01:01.08 | Ooze | Will that mess w/ my Debian installation at all? |
| 01:01.16 | abrotman | shouldn't |
| 01:01.27 | Ooze | >http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/products/service_pack/spp/index.aspx |
| 01:01.35 | Ooze | >This release no longer supports ProLiant G5 and earlier platforms |
| 01:01.45 | abrotman | so find an older one |
| 01:03.01 | Ooze | Searching only pulls up a forum post where the guy posts a link to that |
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| 01:03.11 | Ooze | Or that same HP driver page |
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| 01:05.40 | blackflow | just scrap it and get something newer :) |
| 01:06.00 | Ooze | b-but I just bought it |
| 01:06.04 | Ooze | regret it more and more every day |
| 01:06.07 | Ooze | $90 |
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| 01:06.25 | blackflow | you _just_ bought an 11 year old server? |
| 01:06.36 | blackflow | well good luck with that. |
| 01:07.51 | Ooze | It was on craigslist |
| 01:07.57 | Ooze | It's just to fuck around and learn on |
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| 01:08.03 | Ooze | And boy have I learned a lot |
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| 01:08.29 | blackflow | Ooze: now you can forget all that since a lot has changed in the past 11 years :D |
| 01:08.47 | Ooze | Oh wow yeah it has been 11 years |
| 01:08.56 | Ooze | Geeeez |
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| 01:19.35 | SpikeMaster | Using Jessie. the first visit to a website is always slow (10 seconds). After that it's fast. If i go to a new website it's slow again (10s), then faster from then on. Is there a config trick to make it fast everytime? It's not just websites either. connection to git, or anything else over a network has the same behavior. |
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| 01:21.33 | SpikeMaster | might not even be related to Debian, it's a long shot. |
| 01:22.29 | rww | sounds suspiciously like DNS |
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| 01:23.41 | SpikeMaster | hmm. I'll include DNS in my google searches. |
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| 01:25.22 | lyonsb | you mean like a dnscache? |
| 01:25.31 | lyonsb | (via bind9 or . . . pdnsd or . . . half a dozen other things?) |
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| 01:25.55 | rww | well, iceweasel and chromium have internal DNS caching too iirc |
| 01:26.03 | rww | so first lookup would be slow, then it'd be fine after... |
| 01:26.06 | rww | just a theory though |
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| 01:26.37 | lyonsb | that 'splains a lot. |
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| 01:28.14 | SpikeMaster | rww: not sure what happend but i lost the text you typed. Could you recap the potential issue/solution? sorry |
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| 01:30.26 | SpikeMaster | wiat i didn't lose it. somehow my irc disconencted then reconnected. I just had to scroll up;. |
| 01:31.48 | donofrio | K I went back to osx 10.5.6 and just couldn't do it had to go back to debian, my aptitude clone stuff didin't work cause xbmc was not installed once finished )-: |
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| 01:36.16 | themill | SpikeMaster: it sounds like you are waiting for one (or even 2) dns servers to time out before you get a useful result. Installing a local caching and recursing nameserver on the box would help (unbound is a popular choice) |
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| 01:36.38 | themill | It may also be as simple as fixing your /etc/resolv.conf or fixing your router's nameserver config. |
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| 01:39.40 | Ooze | It just happened again! |
| 01:39.42 | Ooze | Gah |
| 01:39.46 | SpikeMaster | ooooo. ty themill. I'll looke into /etc/resolv.conf. I don't know what i'm doinw but maybe it will fix it! |
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| 01:41.53 | jaggzt | how do I give skype access to share screens? if I run it as root it works, but the option is not available as my normal user |
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| 01:42.15 | donofrio | eeek stay away from root |
| 01:42.21 | donofrio | (my 2 cents) |
| 01:42.32 | jaggzt | no joke! |
| 01:42.34 | abrotman | or skype? |
| 01:42.54 | donofrio | teamviewer for screen sharing? |
| 01:42.55 | simonpatapon | Giving root to à M$ program |
| 01:44.04 | Ooze | yeah don't use skype |
| 01:44.05 | Ooze | at all |
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| 01:54.00 | SpikeMaster | themill: you solved my problem i think!!! ty! |
| 01:54.18 | themill | :) |
| 01:55.06 | SpikeMaster | did a search, and google had instructions on how to set up the google nameservers in that config file resolv.conf. |
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| 02:42.05 | B0073D | Is there a step by step guide to verifying Debian isos? |
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| 02:42.19 | B0073D | The checksum is served over plain http... |
| 02:42.31 | dont-panic | use md5sum to see if the iso has the same checksum? |
| 02:43.04 | dont-panic | md5sum /path/to/distro.iso |
| 02:43.06 | B0073D | dont-panic: That is served over an unencrypted channel |
| 02:43.12 | B0073D | ie, not https |
| 02:43.19 | B0073D | so god knows what I'm getting. |
| 02:43.40 | B0073D | https://www.debian.org/CD/verify mentions gpg |
| 02:43.41 | dont-panic | did you download it from the debian site? |
| 02:43.50 | donofrio | anyone here use synergy? |
| 02:44.01 | dont-panic | hah, I hate gpg, but you can mess with it if you want... its a svn thing |
| 02:44.12 | B0073D | Yes, but the download location was http, not https |
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| 02:44.23 | B0073D | I think you meant git |
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| 02:44.26 | dont-panic | so that means it doesn't have a cert and isn't using ssl |
| 02:44.30 | B0073D | gpg is a signing/trust tool |
| 02:44.49 | abrotman | Even if it were https, you'd have to trust the CA-model .. </tinfoil> |
| 02:44.50 | B0073D | Though I guess I should be saying either gnupg or opengpg |
| 02:44.52 | dont-panic | svn/cvs/git, all the same thing at difering levels of complexity |
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| 02:45.09 | B0073D | abrotman: Mmmmm. |
| 02:45.31 | B0073D | Well yes, except I'm not talking versioning, I'm talking trust/signing/encryption |
| 02:45.31 | dont-panic | part of using linux (at least at home) is being able to go "No CA? mehhh *clicky*" |
| 02:45.44 | abrotman | dont-panic: wtf |
| 02:45.45 | themill | gpg has nothing to do with svn/cvs.git |
| 02:45.47 | dont-panic | lol |
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| 02:45.59 | dont-panic | idk, I use gpg with svn at work |
| 02:46.11 | B0073D | that's to sign your commits I'd say |
| 02:46.12 | dont-panic | but that's because my stuff is stored in svn |
| 02:46.24 | dont-panic | no, its for passwords, we're kind of dumb about it |
| 02:46.39 | dont-panic | but I'm the lowly noc, so what do I know |
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| 02:47.07 | B0073D | so bottom line is no guide. Ok I'll dig through the man pages |
| 02:47.23 | abrotman | B0073D: you get the md5sum file, run against your iso, compare |
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| 02:47.40 | B0073D | abrotman: Compare it to what. The checksum from debian is served over http |
| 02:47.49 | B0073D | adjusts tinfoil |
| 02:48.05 | abrotman | B0073D: you asked what the guide was |
| 02:48.14 | dont-panic | Your kind of treating this like "how do I tell that this concrete encased box at the bottom of the ocean is secure", doesn't matter, it'll still get fishing attacks |
| 02:48.17 | abrotman | it's not over https, either use it or don't |
| 02:48.23 | themill | !check iso signature |
| 02:48.23 | dpkg | On a Debian box, you can check the installer images are legitimate using the signature file that comes with them. When downloading the ISO, also get the SHA256SUM and SHA256SUM.sign files in the same directory, then: "apt-get install -t sid debian-keyring; sha256sum debian.iso; grep debian.iso SHA256SUM; gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-role-keys.gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.sign". See also <check iso image>. |
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| 02:48.48 | abrotman | oh, see, I didn't know that |
| 02:48.52 | B0073D | awesome themill |
| 02:48.54 | B0073D | perfect |
| 02:48.56 | B0073D | ta |
| 02:49.26 | dont-panic | huh... I've never even bothered to check... I figure people don't want the kind of junk I'm going to put on my servers |
| 02:49.38 | themill | If you're already in the web of trust, then skip the keyring stuff |
| 02:49.41 | abrotman | themill: though, that method seems to assume you have a Debian system already ? |
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| 02:50.06 | themill | abrotman: or any debian derivative or you can get the relevant keys directly from the keyservers |
| 02:50.07 | Ooze | So I found a BIOS update for my machine but it says Entitlement Required |
| 02:50.11 | Ooze | and wont' let me download it :( |
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| 02:50.23 | dont-panic | Entitlement, or ethernet? |
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| 02:50.30 | abrotman | themill:I just meant the instrucdtions assume .. |
| 02:50.37 | Ooze | Entitlement |
| 02:50.46 | Ooze | It's on HP's site, you probably have to pay for it or some shit |
| 02:50.49 | dont-panic | hopes my ethernet will catch the etherbunny |
| 02:51.09 | abrotman | wonders how much one pays for an HP G3 |
| 02:51.31 | B0073D | abrotman: it varies |
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| 02:51.52 | B0073D | thanks again themill |
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| 02:52.21 | themill | abrotman: sure. You could write a separate one for non-debian boxes. |
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| 03:51.28 | k_sze[work] | Using a by-path rule in fstab doesn't seem to work. |
| 03:51.41 | k_sze[work] | e.g. /dev/disk/by-path/pci-0000\:03\:00.0-scsi-0\:0\:0\:0-part1 /srv/foo/ xfs defaults 0 0 |
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| 03:51.58 | k_sze[work] | Am I doing something wrong? |
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| 03:55.03 | k_sze[work] | (like I said yesterday, I *want* by-path because I have a PCIe RAID controller and I want to always mount the RAID volume found on that controller at /srv/foo/ |
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| 03:55.55 | k_sze[work] | I don't care about the UUID of the RAID volume because it might change as I swap disk packs or RAID enclosures. |
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| 04:01.00 | donofrio | my lightdm doesn't display anythong but mouse movments |
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| 04:05.32 | Rusty1 | k_sze[work]: i might run it by #linux-raid channel, not many on there tho |
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| 04:09.38 | dsdeiz | hi all, so i'm trying to compile php from source. are packages like php5-mysql not needed anymore if i compiled php from source? |
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| 04:10.15 | donofrio | here is my hwsetup - paste.debian.net/164224 |
| 04:10.46 | donofrio | anyone know how I can get lightdm to work with this video card or whatever is going on |
| 04:11.36 | centrx | If you see mouse movements, you must have video running? |
| 04:11.53 | centrx | Is it just the keyboard doesn't work? |
| 04:11.59 | centrx | Is the system frozen? |
| 04:12.19 | donofrio | yah mouse moves.... |
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| 06:22.21 | angevin | unix has flexibility in depth but debian doesn't because you retards bastardized unix. Slackware and OpenBSD are more flexible than Debian |
| 06:22.54 | angevin | debian is overly complex and it is hard to figure out what the fuck is going on in your system and configure shit |
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| 07:53.41 | duckey | hello |
| 07:53.56 | duckey | I am having some problems with x |
| 07:54.10 | duckey | It is constantly freezing |
| 07:54.34 | duckey | Right now I am in a tty |
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| 07:54.45 | duckey | using irssi |
| 07:54.54 | duckey | I really need help |
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| 07:55.12 | duckey | I am going to try and start x again |
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| 07:55.53 | duckey | It worked correctly |
| 07:56.04 | duckey | Let me try and open chrome |
| 07:57.07 | duckey | its working now |
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| 07:58.29 | duckey | exit |
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| 07:59.58 | guestttttttttttt | For now 10 years when i type find / -iname "something" i got plenty lines of find: `/proc/31581/task/31581/ns': Permission denied or so, who is responsible? |
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| 08:07.04 | ChrisH | guestttttttttttt: you. add -xdev |
| 08:07.18 | guestttttttttttt | cant send to channel? |
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| 08:07.35 | duckey | So, same stuff happend |
| 08:07.49 | duckey | Can I please get some help? |
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| 08:09.04 | guestttttttttttt | cant send to channel? |
| 08:09.44 | shay_shay | guestttttttttttt: you are |
| 08:09.51 | shay_shay | Sending to channel |
| 08:10.25 | shay_shay | Also try piping errors to /dev/null |
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| 08:11.04 | shay_shay | somecommand 2>/dev/null |
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| 08:11.32 | shay_shay | That's useful if the errors are just spamming you and you don't need them anyways |
| 08:11.41 | ChrisH | shay_shay: better to use proper options |
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| 08:12.44 | shay_shay | ChrisH but if a user needs to search / yet /home/otheruser has no read permissions for him then errors will happen anyways |
| 08:13.12 | shay_shay | And that can be hidden by redirecting errors |
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| 08:27.50 | Ponto_ | guestttttttttttt, should be expected behavior if you trying to access a folder that you not have permissions to |
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| 08:32.50 | midori-rus | hello there. I've installed debian 7.8 and Apache2+php5.5 |
| 08:33.02 | midori-rus | A php script returns plain text |
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| 08:33.26 | midori-rus | and /var/log/apache2/error.log doesnt get me any errors |
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| 08:51.46 | Haris | hello all |
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| 08:52.20 | Haris | what would wget do in an if condition (in a bash script) if it was hitting a url where the web server was "hung" so to speak ? Would it return success or failure ? |
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| 08:53.48 | Haris | this is debian 7.8 |
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| 08:54.33 | Haris | guys ? |
| 08:54.48 | xand | I imagine it would eventually time out and return an error code |
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| 08:58.50 | fraff | Haris: wget --timeout=X will show you if server responded quicker than X seconds |
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| 08:59.41 | Haris | does the timeout part throw an error or exit other than with success code ? |
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| 09:05.47 | biledemon | I will soon set up my first LAMP server used for running ownCloud. Now that Jessie has been confirmed to release at the end of this month, is it worth it for me waiting for it rather than just install Wheezy? Will I see massive performance improvements or something? |
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| 09:06.59 | fraff | Haris: why don't you just try ? write a php script with a sleep (10) and wget --timeout=2, you'll figure out by yourself |
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| 09:08.02 | Haris | I'm running a 9 liner bash script, from a free shell, to monitor if a website or a url stays up or goes down. and to ping me if it dies, so I can do something about it |
| 09:08.21 | Haris | writing php script locally on the remote location won't make sense |
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| 09:08.49 | jelly | Haris: it makes sense for testing. |
| 09:09.02 | Haris | I mean |
| 09:09.18 | Haris | where is the php script going to be at ? the url or the place where I'm running wget from on remote location ? |
| 09:09.45 | jelly | make it available at some url and test your script with that url |
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| 09:10.31 | Haris | in that case, will it throw an error for exit code ? |
| 09:10.43 | Haris | be it timeout or not, if it doesn't get a response |
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| 09:10.53 | Haris | it should |
| 09:10.56 | Haris | that's a dumb Q |
| 09:10.59 | jelly | !TIAS |
| 09:10.59 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 09:11.59 | Haris | I'v setup a bash script which is running wget for main url. I'll look into adding another with a script |
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| 09:12.20 | Haris | wget -t=5 -q --spider |
| 09:15.45 | fraff | Haris: anyway, some tools do it better than your script, see "monit" for exemple |
| 09:15.59 | Haris | hmm |
| 09:16.04 | Haris | is it available on 7.8 ? |
| 09:16.18 | Haris | its not available on this remote box |
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| 09:17.24 | jelly | Haris: note that -t is "tries" and -T sets timeouts |
| 09:17.54 | jelly | wget -t1 -T5 -q --spider http://jebo.me/pehape/10sec.php; echo $? |
| 09:17.55 | Haris | got that |
| 09:18.09 | Haris | 10 points for you on spotting that |
| 09:18.10 | Haris | =) |
| 09:18.32 | Haris | I'v specified it with --timeout=5 in the script |
| 09:18.56 | Haris | if wget --timeout=5 -q --spider "url-to-hit" -O /dev/null |
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| 09:19.32 | Haris | is linux mint separate from debian ? like ubuntu is also built on top of debian, but separate |
| 09:19.39 | xand | Haris: yes. |
| 09:19.51 | xand | !mint |
| 09:19.51 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 09:33.27 | CissWit | sorry |
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| 09:35.37 | Haris | thank you all |
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| 09:48.12 | duckey | How can I make x make cinnamon auto load. Just got rid of gnome-shell |
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| 10:01.12 | duckey | Fucking fuckers |
| 10:01.41 | phix | heh |
| 10:01.54 | phix | Well said sir |
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| 10:03.09 | XreiX | Good morning, pardon the noobish question, I'm writting my first init script, and passing in: (other ops) --exec ${DAEMON} ${DAEMON_OPTS} to the start-stop-daemon DAEMON is "/usr/bin/php" and DAEMON_OPTS="/srv/poller/run.php", now, I need to pass a parameter to run.php, but if I include it in daemon_opts, it always says that start-stop-daemon requires an argument :S |
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| 10:04.30 | XreiX | if tried both: DAEMON_OPTS="/srv/poller/run.php -switch" and modifing the --exec line and adding it after ${DAEMON_OPTS}, but neither work |
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| 10:05.53 | jifzo | hi. when I shutdown my debian wheezy, bind9 hangs for 1minute -- I tried to issue a -9 signal through its rc-script but that made alsa to hang in the pretty same way. |
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| 10:06.37 | jifzo | it seems that if I fix one, then the other hangs in the same way |
| 10:07.06 | fraff | XreiX: have you tried "--" between --exec ${DAEMON} and ${DAEMON_OPTS} ? |
| 10:07.40 | XreiX | fraff, trying now |
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| 10:08.59 | XreiX | fraff, I hate my life... that was exactly it <3 |
| 10:09.09 | XreiX | Thank you very much :) |
| 10:09.15 | fraff | you're wellcome |
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| 10:25.47 | oo_miguel | I am trying to start a virtualbox instance in headless mode, and configured it to use VRDE, but it seems not to listen for any connections at all. Does the user creating/starting the virtualbox need any privileges? |
| 10:27.44 | oskie | hello, any idea how to formulate a Unattended-Upgrade::Origins-Pattern line for wheezy/updates? |
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| 10:41.13 | nils_ | I'm wondering what the usual process is to get packages from testing into wheezy-backports, specifically I want to use a more recent kernel since I'm running into a bug in xen_netfront which seems to be fixed in ckt5. |
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| 10:48.42 | jubalh | hello there |
| 10:53.44 | jelly | nils_: wheezy-backports only contains versions backported from jessie, so when the fixed one appears in jessie you can ask for a backport on the backports mailing list |
| 10:54.56 | jelly | nils_: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ at the bottom, "Please report bugs that you found in the packages to the backports mailinglist and NOT to the Debian BTS!" |
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| 11:01.17 | nils_ | jelly: thanks, luckily the fix is already in jessie (ckt7 in jessie, ckt4 in wheezy-backports) |
| 11:01.37 | nils_ | I should probably try the jessie kernel on a few machines first to make sure it's actually fixed. |
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| 11:02.41 | jelly | nils_: good, that means you can ask for a backport right away |
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| 11:08.42 | duckey | http://www.mslinux.org/ |
| 11:08.58 | duckey | That is the funniest thing I have seen in a while |
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| 11:10.22 | G66k | i have a problem with my wireless |
| 11:10.30 | G66k | since i have update the system |
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| 11:45.43 | metabsd | Hi all, I want to remote control my Debian install. I prefer to control by the gui. What is the best method to do that ? |
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| 11:50.33 | ChrisH | metabsd: IIRC there is a ssh connection possible to get the TUI installer from remote. I never installed using the GUI as I am much faster with the expert Install TUI |
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| 11:52.29 | vovkav | hi! Logcheck + dos_evasive question... no matter what i put in /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/xxx logcheck keeps sending me emails (Security Alerts section). other lines in /etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/xxx work as expected. What did I miss? |
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| 11:53.19 | fraff | metabsd: the best is to boot on a root disk, and format/mkfs/debootstrap/grub-install, it's more complicated, but faster |
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| 11:54.50 | metabsd | you are really i precious help for me :P |
| 11:55.16 | metabsd | fraff, i will do that on your installation :P |
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| 12:03.42 | jdennis1 | we might switch to mariadb now that it's gonna be a built in/supported option, but I'm still curious about the mysql version |
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| 12:07.56 | Cryp71c | Working with a debian VM, keep getting a GPG key error for ppa.launchpad.net and I'm not sure if its something on my end that I need to fix or if the base issue is on the apt repository's side. I can run apt-key adv to manually add in the missing key....but I'm not sure why its not getting that key automatically |
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| 12:08.14 | bazhang | ppa with debian? |
| 12:08.31 | Cryp71c | Gahaza! sorry. Wrong channel |
| 12:08.41 | Cryp71c | (Ubuntu) |
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| 12:13.24 | Drugo | jdennis1, since it was frozen (and it's close to be released) is impossible to have a newer version |
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| 13:08.35 | Savemech | well, usual --create --verbose as it was before --stop, make a deal :) |
| 13:08.56 | jelly | Savemech: if you just want to start it again, that's mdadm --assemble |
| 13:09.35 | Savemech | jelly, i wont, and also with --create --verbose ; and accepting to create again; i got my data back, whooohoo |
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| 13:10.18 | jelly | mdadm should not let you do --create without forcing if it found its format already there |
| 13:11.19 | jelly | how do I tell bts a bug is not present any more in some version of a package? |
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| 13:44.15 | fraff | _Rarity: never heard about a tcpdump user ... what's it's uid/gid ? |
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| 13:58.07 | _Rarity | Anyways, its not really important. I just found it odd when I saw it |
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| 14:00.32 | jelly | _Rarity: that's not present in Debian and no valid package will create a user with an uid <= 100, that range is reserved and predefined |
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| 15:08.58 | Ooze | Okayyyyy, rebooted again and again this morning |
| 15:09.14 | Ooze | Took a while to come back up so I went down to check, and it had shut down again right after boot whem the login screen was coming up |
| 15:09.16 | shay_shay | youre welcome |
| 15:09.22 | Ooze | I reseated the power cables, hopefully that will do something |
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| 15:09.37 | Ooze | er, overheating |
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| 15:18.03 | beagleburt | crhylove, How about pasting the .sh script into #flood, so we can look at it & advise? |
| 15:18.04 | Majikthise | crhylove: make it executable (chmod +x myscript.sh), then do: ./myscript.sh |
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| 15:35.22 | crhylove | apt update && apt upgrade -y && apt autoremove && apt autoclean |
| 15:36.00 | crhylove | That's my exciting script. I just made it in /bin and chmod and now I don't have to do all 4 by hand like an OCD crazy person. :D |
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| 15:39.25 | arrrg | Hi. just installed wheezy. witch repositoires are recomended to add. (trusted ones)? |
| 15:39.40 | polyphagia | none |
| 15:39.42 | Aeiortv | Is the jessie release date an april fool's joke? |
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| 15:40.45 | absolutnoob | vinterm is awesome |
| 15:41.19 | Kuba | absolutnoob: where did you find the release data? :) |
| 15:42.22 | CissWit | Kuba: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html |
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| 15:43.19 | CissWit | was announced yesterday so it probably isn't an april fool's joke |
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| 15:47.24 | Kuba | CissWit: thanks! |
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| 15:48.52 | Overand | I'm trying to hack together a terrible, ugly init.d script, because I can't get the 'proper' stuff to work. Does it make sense for me to do "pkill -F /var/whatever/the.pid.file" or no? |
| 15:49.18 | Ooze | I used seomthing on github to create what should autostart some npm programs, and I can see them listed when I do 'ls /etc/rc*.d', but it still doesn't autostart |
| 15:49.38 | Ooze | Oh hey sort of similar questions |
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| 15:50.56 | fraff | Overand: start-stop-daemon is prefered to pkill |
| 15:51.20 | fraff | Ooze: does it start with /etc/rc*.d/S or K ? |
| 15:51.25 | Overand | fraff: Yeah, but I've had zero success with my start-stop-daemon based init.d script, unfortunately. |
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| 15:51.54 | Ooze | Well it lists /etc/rc0-5 |
| 15:51.54 | Overand | fraff: I'll bang away at the proper one again, but I suppose pkill -F pidfile will work in a pinch. I'm trying to get this thing to deal with the possibility of the process not actualyl dying when it needs to etc |
| 15:52.04 | Ooze | They start with K in the first two |
| 15:52.06 | Ooze | Then S in the rest |
| 15:52.23 | fraff | Overand: can you paste your script ? |
| 15:52.33 | fraff | Ooze: should start then |
| 15:52.42 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/ulusuqiwih.hs |
| 15:52.53 | fraff | Ooze: I mean, it should be executed with start as argument |
| 15:52.54 | Ooze | K01hastebin |
| 15:52.56 | Ooze | is what it is |
| 15:53.03 | Ooze | Yeah I want it to start on boot though |
| 15:53.10 | Ooze | It starts fine if I do 'serivice start' or w/e |
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| 15:54.20 | ChrisH | Ooze: snmptrapd configured? |
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| 15:54.40 | Ooze | Should be, I get some logs but they're not too helpful |
| 15:54.47 | Ooze | Just numbers and sctuff |
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| 15:55.26 | ChrisH | removing one power supply should trigger a valid trap :) |
| 15:56.18 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/erobopusiy.hs |
| 15:56.32 | s4ndm4n | is Jessie going to be released on 25th of this month or I am being fooled. |
| 15:56.49 | s4ndm4n | ? |
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| 15:57.25 | ChrisH | Ooze: there are some MIBs missing |
| 15:57.45 | jelly | s4ndm4n: that's the current plan |
| 15:57.59 | Ooze | MIBs? |
| 15:58.02 | s4ndm4n | jelly: means no April Fooling |
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| 15:58.36 | ChrisH | Ooze: http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c04272529 MIBs are the translation from OID (the strange numbers inside a SNMP Trap to human readbale stuff) |
| 15:58.57 | srg | Savemech: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ many RC bugs still present in Jessie |
| 15:59.03 | srg | er, sorry, s4ndm4n * |
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| 15:59.30 | Overand | Oh, weird. I've specified my pidfile as "/usr/local/thethingie/pid" and it's trying to read "/usr/local/thethingie/thethingie.pid" |
| 15:59.43 | Ooze | I feel like none of their drivers/software are compatable with anything that isn't their recent gen stuff |
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| 16:00.01 | Overand | Do my pidfiles have to be "something.pid" ? |
| 16:00.01 | Ooze | aren't |
| 16:00.09 | Ooze | There's hardly any support for their old hardware |
| 16:01.23 | ChrisH | Ooze: https://wiki.debian.org/SNMP |
| 16:01.35 | Ooze | https://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=MTX_3972038af84a4b3cb19a830c48 |
| 16:01.38 | Ooze | No debian driver, again |
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| 16:02.16 | fraff | , |
| 16:02.22 | Ooze | So install the mibs downloader on the client, not the server that's sending the errors? |
| 16:02.55 | ChrisH | Ooze: You need the mibs on the side receiving the traps |
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| 16:04.03 | Ooze | But I'd be editing the /etc/snmp/snmp.conf file on the other one? |
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| 16:04.20 | rak[2] | heyO! |
| 16:04.39 | Ooze | nvm |
| 16:04.51 | rak[2] | so.. i ran apt-get upgrade last night |
| 16:05.00 | rak[2] | everything seemingly went well and i shut my system down |
| 16:05.22 | Ooze | ChrisH, so now do I translate that file w/ this or do I need to wait for another error to come in? |
| 16:05.23 | rak[2] | this morning when i booted it up.. it went to a graphical login.. wtf.. why did an upgrade change my settings? |
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| 16:05.36 | rak[2] | anyhow, how do i prevent my system from trying to boot X upon start up? |
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| 16:09.27 | ChrisH | Ooze: you receive the traps on a box != the rebooting one. There you must install the MIBs... My quick tests to decode the OID failed, too. |
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| 16:10.11 | Ooze | I've got the server running on the rebooting one, which sends to the other server that now has mibs installed |
| 16:10.19 | Ooze | So now do I have to wait for it to send another for it to be decoded? |
| 16:10.37 | Ooze | Not the best wording, sorry |
| 16:11.16 | ChrisH | You must setup the ILO (onthe rebooting server) to send traps to another box.. on "another box" you need the trap receiver and the MIBs to understand what was send. |
| 16:11.17 | Ooze | HP has SNMP installed and configured, but no MIBs, Dell has MIBs installed now |
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| 16:11.33 | Ooze | Yeah I've got iLO set up, that's how I got that first paste |
| 16:12.21 | rak[2] | furthermore, should i be worried about other configuration changes? i didn't know that upgrading packages caused config files to be invaded upon... |
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| 16:12.48 | rak[2] | and unfortunately, i have no idea what file causes this graphical login to start.. :/ |
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| 16:14.20 | sheap | In my preseed the LVM stuff gets created automatically, but the bootable flag does not get set to /dev/md126p1 (which is mounted to /boot, and where GRUB is installed). Is there a way I can have the LVM stuff made automatically but just have the bootable flag added to a specific partition? |
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| 16:17.40 | ytheleus | sheap: you should be able to do this with partman-auto/export_recipe and $bootable{ }, I think |
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| 16:18.16 | ytheleus | *expert_recipe |
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| 16:19.13 | sheap | ytheleus: would that mean I would have to create an entire recipe? |
| 16:19.42 | ytheleus | sheap: I believe so, yes (that's how I've done it in the past) |
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| 16:20.27 | ytheleus | some examples: https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Partman_Recipes |
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| 16:21.57 | sheap | ytheleus: thanks. I was also thinking an fdisk late command to just set the /dev/md126p1 partition as bootable |
| 16:22.28 | Achylles | I have got nomachine installed and I want to test if I can connect to a computer over a wan. I went to https://www.whatismyip.com/ got my wan Ip and tried to connect to my own computer. But, nomachine gives me "Could not connect to the server". Is it because my router is blocking may wan IP? |
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| 16:22.43 | Achylles | Can I test if I can connect to myself from the outside world this way? |
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| 16:23.55 | rak[2] | Achylles: you probably have the port blocked on your computer |
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| 16:24.07 | rak[2] | or are attempting to connect to the wrong port |
| 16:24.21 | talin | hello. i had my locale set to en_US.utf-8, but now after a reboot, it went back to POSIX |
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| 16:25.29 | rak[2] | Achylles: do you have admin access to your router? |
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| 16:27.36 | ytheleus | sheap: sounds fair enough, too |
| 16:27.37 | rak[2] | talin: ha. i did an `apt-get upgrade` and after a reboot it changed my login from console to graphical... |
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| 16:28.39 | talin | rak[2]: ah, heh |
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| 16:29.51 | rak[2] | talin: i don't recall off-hand however how to switch back locales... |
| 16:30.14 | rak[2] | talin: err. i think you can say EXPORT LCajsdlfaj = in your .bashrc |
| 16:30.25 | rak[2] | so that it will be sourced in every terminal.. |
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| 16:30.51 | ytheleus | talin: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 16:30.57 | talin | ytheleus: that one says utf-8 |
| 16:31.00 | rak[2] | ytheleus: ah! |
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| 16:31.18 | rak[2] | ytheleus: i attempted to try dpkg-reconfigure locale and it didn't work, ha! |
| 16:31.56 | ytheleus | talin: what's in /etc/default/locale? |
| 16:32.07 | ytheleus | rak[2]: that should be "locales" (plural) |
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| 16:32.17 | rak[2] | ytheleus: aye aye! |
| 16:32.20 | talin | #LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 16:32.21 | talin | LANGUAGE="en_US:en" |
| 16:32.49 | ytheleus | talin: I don't think that first line should be commented out |
| 16:33.00 | rak[2] | ^^ |
| 16:33.29 | talin | ytheleus: do you know how i can make those changes take effect? |
| 16:33.45 | rak[2] | talin: you can probably logout/login |
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| 16:35.00 | ytheleus | talin: you should also check it's uncommented in /etc/locale.gen, and run locale-gen if you needed to make a change |
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| 16:35.31 | rak[2] | OK i have to buzz off to work, but i will be back later to see if /anyone/ knows how to set boot login to console...... |
| 16:35.47 | ytheleus | rak[2]: apt-get remove gdm |
| 16:35.53 | ytheleus | (probably the simplest solution) |
| 16:35.56 | talin | thanks. locale still says posix hto |
| 16:35.56 | rak[2] | ytheleus: fantastic |
| 16:36.14 | rak[2] | ytheleus: yeah that sounds much better than my other thought, which was `apt-get remove X11` |
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| 16:36.55 | ytheleus | rak[2]: there are other display managers, but if you've not installed one on purpose, you probably have gdm |
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| 16:37.17 | DrOwl | rak[2]: apt-get remove task-desktop |
| 16:37.47 | rak[2] | er, i think my system has lightdm.. |
| 16:38.15 | rak[2] | i will attempt to remove such |
| 16:38.40 | DrOwl | or remove "task-xfce-desktop"... |
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| 16:39.39 | ytheleus | or just disable the display manager in init, for a less-intrusive change |
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| 16:43.08 | rak[2] | ytheleus: aye that was the precise change i was looking for, but i wasn't sure where that was located |
| 16:43.15 | rak[2] | anyhow, i have no need for lightdm |
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| 16:43.25 | rak[2] | so i uninstalled it.. let's see what happens.. going down for reboot |
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| 16:48.11 | ChrisH | Ooze: http://community-downloads.quest.com/management-extensions/htm/HPInsightManager_description.htm MIB.cpqSm2ServerPowerOutage=1.3.6.1.4.1.232.0.9002] |
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| 16:49.18 | Ooze | What's this? |
| 16:49.22 | ChrisH | Ooze: http://www.snmplink.org/cgi-bin/nd/m/Ent/H/Hewlett%20Packard%20%28HP%29/%5BALL%5D%20-%20HP%20Insight%20Management/Compaq/cpqsm2.mib shows which MIB file to add ... as yesterday need to go now. |
| 16:49.22 | andrewmoise | How do I make nickserv forget a previous registration? When I try to register, it says "<email> has too many accounts registered", but when I try to use sendpass, it says no account with that email exists. |
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| 16:49.53 | Ooze | Alright I'll look into it, thanks ChrisH |
| 16:50.11 | ChrisH | Ooze: your Power is the root cause. might be faulty cable/plugs. or allmost dead power supplies. |
| 16:50.32 | Ooze | I plugged it into another surge protector instead of the strip on the inside of the case |
| 16:50.36 | Ooze | Hasn't rebooted yet, but we'll see |
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| 16:57.34 | sheap | unfortunately a script doesn't seem to work all the time... |
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| 17:09.15 | cmtptr | does APT have a concept of package groups? like is there a group encapsulating gcc, binutils, make, patch, diffutils, etc.? |
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| 17:10.39 | APLU | cmtptr: there are meta-package, so maybe build-essential does what you need |
| 17:11.11 | cmtptr | I don't actually need anything in particular at the moment, just trying to learn the ropes. this is my first experience with debian |
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| 17:11.40 | sheap | welcome to the wonderful world of apt |
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| 17:21.21 | talin | how do you know what LANG to set? i want en_US |
| 17:21.24 | talin | and UTF-8 |
| 17:21.38 | NoImNotNineVolt | then you should set that. |
| 17:21.47 | petn-randall | talin: dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales |
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| 17:23.33 | sheap | anyone know if there's anything special I have to wrap my late_command with in this case? http://paste.ubuntu.com/10719517/ |
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| 17:26.13 | sheap | does the debian installer use bash? |
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| 17:27.12 | SynrG | apparently not ;) |
| 17:27.35 | SynrG | (and i'd be horrified if i found it did!) |
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| 17:28.43 | sheap | SynrG: yea that's what I thought with the error I just got |
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| 17:29.53 | SynrG | sheap: yep. google fairly quickly turned up: http://www.unix.com/shell-programming-and-scripting/103528-syntax-error-word-unexpected-expecting.html |
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| 17:32.52 | `ajven | hi, got problem with detecting nvidia card, lspci see nvidia but nvidia-detect no. |
| 17:32.54 | `ajven | root@Arda:~# lspci | grep -E "VGA|3D" |
| 17:32.55 | `ajven | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) |
| 17:32.57 | `ajven | 01:00.0 3D controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108M [GeForce GT 540M] (rev a1) |
| 17:32.58 | `ajven | root@Arda:~# nvidia-detect |
| 17:33.00 | `ajven | No NVIDIA GPU detected. |
| 17:33.01 | `ajven | root@Arda:~# |
| 17:33.05 | `ajven | oh im sorry i want to link - http://pastebin.com/upzNd3SP |
| 17:33.26 | `ajven | someone know maybe whats going on ? |
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| 17:41.56 | cr1st0 | hi there |
| 17:42.19 | cr1st0 | i'm getting this error when i try to use an external drive of 500 gigs |
| 17:42.21 | cr1st0 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpbkfqd2m8mnbcn/Screenshot.png?dl=0 |
| 17:42.25 | cr1st0 | can somoeone help? |
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| 17:43.07 | Ooze | ...mount it as root |
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| 17:43.42 | cr1st0 | how i do that? |
| 17:44.10 | Ooze | What OS is this? How are you trying to mount it? |
| 17:44.21 | Ooze | I assume you're using Thunar or Nautilus or something, just open that as root |
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| 17:45.13 | nullbyte_ | which X env will be in Jessie |
| 17:45.15 | nullbyte_ | and what kernel |
| 17:45.24 | Ooze | ur mum |
| 17:46.26 | cr1st0 | i'm using thunar |
| 17:46.33 | cr1st0 | how i open it as root? |
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| 17:46.51 | cr1st0 | olá lucascastro |
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| 17:47.38 | rainfyre | gksudo thunar |
| 17:47.41 | lucascastro | cr1st0, ola |
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| 17:48.23 | sheap | now for the next trick, getting a script to supress errors |
| 17:48.37 | sheap | or change the error code |
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| 17:50.50 | nullbyte_ | ooze bye |
| 17:50.55 | Ooze | bai |
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| 17:57.50 | talin | hello. after apt-get updaate and upgrade, my locale was changed to POSIX. now i've configured it in .bashrc, so it looks correct, but i still can not use these non-ascii letters in various programs |
| 17:57.55 | talin | running jessie |
| 17:58.40 | nullbyte_ | ooze: nigga WHOAZ up i am racis |
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| 17:59.01 | Ooze | Only if you didn't vote for Obama TWICE |
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| 18:01.13 | abrotman | nullbyte_: that's uncalled for |
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| 18:08.54 | cr1st0 | https://www.dropbox.com/s/hpbkfqd2m8mnbcn/Screenshot.png?dl=0 |
| 18:09.04 | cr1st0 | how i fix this? |
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| 18:13.20 | yuppie | hey guys where can i get 7.6? |
| 18:13.27 | yuppie | i want to download an ISO of 7.6 |
| 18:13.30 | greycat | OK, I am still stumped by the --noclear issue in jessie. How do you prevent the console being cleared every time you logout in jessie? There are two getty processes running and they both have --noclear, and I have nothing but a comment in my .bash_logout so it's not happening there either. But SOMETHING is clearing that console. |
| 18:14.19 | greycat | Also, not using c-a-f7 to get back to X is confusing, but I guess I can adapt.... |
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| 18:16.13 | abrotman | greycat: is it f8 now? |
| 18:16.28 | greycat | it's Ctrl-Alt-F3 now, because there are apparently only two gettys instead of six |
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| 18:16.53 | yuppie | anyone know where i can download Debain 7.6 amd64? |
| 18:16.59 | yuppie | i cant find it on the debian.org page |
| 18:17.13 | greycat | But I have no idea what's spawning them, because I can't figure out systemd yet. There's a /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service but nothing for tty2.... |
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| 18:17.29 | greycat | yuppie: why do you want an old version? |
| 18:17.59 | yuppie | greycat: need it |
| 18:18.40 | yuppie | is this official? http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 18:18.56 | yuppie | i need the installer for 7.6 64bit! |
| 18:19.08 | greycat | "official" and "I want an old version with known bugs and security holes" don't really mesh, do they? |
| 18:19.15 | yuppie | well |
| 18:19.21 | yuppie | i guess you're right greycat lol |
| 18:19.31 | yuppie | what are some of the big security holes? |
| 18:20.16 | greycat | here's 7.7: https://www.debian.org/News/2014/20141018 |
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| 18:20.24 | greycat | and here's 7.8: https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150110 |
| 18:20.33 | yuppie | well, i need 7.6 lol |
| 18:20.43 | yuppie | thanks for the good ol' college try though |
| 18:20.56 | greycat | You asked for which security holes were fixed, and those are the answers to that. |
| 18:20.56 | centrx | Why do you need 7.6 |
| 18:21.02 | yuppie | ah |
| 18:21.12 | yuppie | i need 7.6, because the boss needs 7.6 |
| 18:21.25 | centrx | The boss doesn't know what he is talking about |
| 18:21.26 | centrx | Get 7.8 |
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| 18:21.42 | yuppie | i cant get 7.8 because the boss thinks he knows what he's talking about |
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| 18:21.45 | yuppie | ;) |
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| 18:22.11 | greycat | install 7.8 and edit /etc/debian_version to say 7.6 |
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| 18:22.48 | greycat | (you may need to undo that before you can upgrade to any new point releases after that) |
| 18:23.01 | yuppie | good idea, but not flying |
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| 18:23.11 | porton | I've sent a reply to 774377@bugs.debian.org but see no my reply appearing at https://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2015/01/msg00000.html - what's wrong? |
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| 18:26.36 | abrotman | is pretty sure his is f8 |
| 18:27.08 | greycat | maybe the jessie upgrade rolls a random number from 1 to 10 and makes that many gettys |
| 18:27.22 | abrotman | heh |
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| 18:42.08 | LunaLovegood | Is the difference between the armel and armhf platforms userspace only or does it change the kernel ABI too? (What I really wanna know is if a statically linked armel app will work on an armhf system and vice-versa (assuming the CPU supports the needed instructions) ) |
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| 18:45.25 | somiaj | LunaLovegood: you may get a better answer from #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net (I don't know the difference myself) |
| 18:45.51 | LunaLovegood | ok thanks |
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| 19:29.14 | Deiwsots | Someone knows something about ati/intel hybrid card support at Jessie |
| 19:29.20 | Deiwsots | ? |
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| 19:30.46 | pythonsnake | hey guys |
| 19:30.53 | pythonsnake | I've got some kind of strange issue |
| 19:30.59 | GPenguin | me too |
| 19:31.14 | pythonsnake | I just upgraded to Jessie, rebooted, server's services like mail and web are running normal |
| 19:31.18 | pythonsnake | but I can't ssh into it |
| 19:31.39 | pythonsnake | while upgrading I remember having some openssh/openssl upgrade problems, but I have reinstalled them |
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| 19:31.54 | pythonsnake | what happens is nmap : port 22 closed and Connection timed out when trying to ssh |
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| 19:31.59 | GPenguin | pythonsnake: what is the error message you get? |
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| 19:32.03 | pythonsnake | GPenguin: nothing |
| 19:32.11 | pythonsnake | I'm checking in auth.log |
| 19:32.20 | pythonsnake | Apr 1 21:13:14 mail sshd[560]: Server listening on :: port 2. |
| 19:32.21 | GPenguin | ah, then no daemon is listening |
| 19:32.23 | pythonsnake | Apr 1 21:22:54 mail sshd[560]: Server listening on :: port 2. |
| 19:32.25 | pythonsnake | Apr 1 21:23:00 mail sshd[560]: Received SIGHUP; restarting. |
| 19:32.29 | pythonsnake | it is listening |
| 19:32.40 | GPenguin | closed says no |
| 19:32.47 | pythonsnake | but I mean in the logs |
| 19:33.02 | pythonsnake | in config I got that |
| 19:33.05 | pythonsnake | SyslogFacility AUTH |
| 19:33.07 | pythonsnake | LogLevel INFO |
| 19:33.10 | pythonsnake | sorry for two and three lines pastes |
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| 19:34.05 | greycat | does it really say you're listening on port 2? |
| 19:34.26 | pythonsnake | yeah? |
| 19:34.43 | greycat | sshd normally listens on port 22, not port 2. of course you can change that. |
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| 19:34.52 | pythonsnake | yeah I did |
| 19:35.16 | greycat | then why do you care what nmap says about port 22, which you are not using? |
| 19:35.30 | pythonsnake | also -A INPUT -j ACCEPT |
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| 19:36.19 | pythonsnake | greycat: erm, I meant port 2 |
| 19:36.22 | pythonsnake | sorry |
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| 19:36.48 | pythonsnake | /etc/iptables# rm rules.v4 |
| 19:36.52 | pythonsnake | deletes iptables rules right? |
| 19:37.12 | greycat | try this: netstat -ant | grep :2 | grep LISTEN |
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| 19:38.13 | kdog | pythonsnake: wouldn't the "::" indicate that it is listening on ipv6? Mine reports listening on 0.0.0.0 |
| 19:38.51 | greycat | there should indeed be lines for both 0.0.0.0 and :: in the output of netstat in a normal configuration |
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| 19:39.18 | Dagger | if net.ipv6.bindv6only is left at the default of 0 then a program listening on :: can accept v4 connections on the v6 socket |
| 19:39.27 | kdog | has ipv6 commented out |
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| 19:40.26 | Dagger | ...yeah, you really shouldn't. ssh is one of the things that benefits the most |
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| 19:41.15 | greycat | well, at least on my wheezy-upgraded-to-jessie box, sshd explicitly listens on both, presumably because it doesn't know about this v6 trickery in the Linux kernel |
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| 19:42.11 | Deiwsots | Does someone know how I can disable discrete GPU ? I'm using debian Jessie |
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| 19:44.19 | ctmjr | Deiwsots: should be able to in your bios or you can unbind it from the driver |
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| 19:44.51 | pythonsnake | greycat: netstat: no support for `AF INET (tcp)' on this system. |
| 19:44.54 | pythonsnake | chrooting now |
| 19:45.12 | greycat | I think your problems may be deeper than I can go. |
| 19:45.36 | pythonsnake | greycat: it's chrooting haha |
| 19:45.47 | pythonsnake | That's scary ;_; |
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| 19:49.18 | Deiwsots | ctmjr: I've already checked at bios but I don't found nothing about enable or disable GPU cards |
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| 19:51.12 | Deiwsots | ctmjr: I think that the only solution be to put ati kernel module in blacklist |
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| 19:55.10 | theluckymike | Deiwsots, you have nvidia optimus, righty ? |
| 19:55.16 | theluckymike | right* |
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| 19:55.59 | ctmjr | Deiwsots: try it see what happens |
| 19:56.13 | Deiwsots | theluckymike: No, I have a intel/ati hybrid laptop |
| 19:56.33 | theluckymike | ohh, nevermind then. I had so big pain with nvidia optimus, as I couldn't disable any of cards -.- |
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| 19:59.40 | teraflop | theluckymike: i had to upgrade the bios for being able to disable the nvidia gpu ... |
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| 20:01.20 | theluckymike | but looks like there is bbswitch also for ati |
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| 20:10.09 | theluckymike | teraflop, thx for idea. This could bring me back to linux on this laptop -.- |
| 20:10.18 | theluckymike | have no idea how I missed it |
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| 20:13.29 | teraflop | theluckymike: i think you can pass grub something like |
| 20:13.31 | teraflop | You can also temporarily blacklist them on the grub command line (linux line) when you boot with the syntax |
| 20:13.49 | teraflop | sorry xlicp incident |
| 20:13.54 | theluckymike | yeah, or disable with bbswitch |
| 20:13.58 | theluckymike | launching x wasn't a problem |
| 20:14.04 | theluckymike | with integrated |
| 20:14.17 | teraflop | nividia.blacklist=yes |
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| 20:16.20 | glassresistor | \quit |
| 20:17.44 | theluckymike | /quit |
| 20:17.50 | theluckymike | lol, not working :( |
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| 20:23.18 | adilix | h iall |
| 20:23.39 | adilix | is it true that debian 8 will be out at 25 aprill? |
| 20:24.06 | petn-randall | adilix: Unless anything spoils the release, yes. |
| 20:24.19 | adilix | a ok, its not a aprill fool |
| 20:24.37 | adilix | and does that mean i have to change to systemd or can i stay on init |
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| 20:26.04 | greycat | wonders where this date comes from |
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| 20:26.29 | adilix | i have read it on pro linux |
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| 20:33.31 | Joasx | Hello! Can I use the Debian armhf repository instead of the raspberrypi (raspbian) repository ... for installing a single progam? |
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| 20:37.48 | kdog | greycat: Niels Thykier sent out the 4/25 Jessie release date announcement yesterday |
| 20:38.19 | greycat | ok... and good thing it wasn't today ;-) |
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| 20:40.21 | teraflop | Joasx: i've done before but i think youll get a _frankenraspbian_ |
| 20:41.11 | Joasx | mhhh so how do I make the raspberry only debian from beginning? |
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| 20:44.17 | teraflop | Joasx: may be someone did some custom image |
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| 20:45.28 | Joasx | Why would Debian provide armel / armhf binaries if these is no armel / armhf Debian OS image ? :D |
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| 20:46.03 | acz32 | looks like the debian installer encrypts swap when you select to use whole disk with encrypted LVM. is that new? |
| 20:46.06 | jelly | Joasx: OS image for which of the couple hundred boards? |
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| 20:46.24 | teraflop | Joasx: i run jessie and wheezy in bananapi ... |
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| 20:46.39 | rainfyre | Can I ask a question related to Jessie in here? Is apt-spy in the Jessie repos? |
| 20:46.48 | LunaLovegood | What is http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/armel/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-armel-netinst.iso if not an install image? |
| 20:46.48 | jelly | ,v apt-spy |
| 20:46.51 | judd | Package: apt-spy on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1-19; sid: 3.2.2-1; wheezy: 3.2.2-1 |
| 20:46.55 | jelly | rainfyre: nope |
| 20:47.04 | teraflop | Joasx: something like that or feel free to do it yourself http://goo.gl/EqxU2q |
| 20:47.14 | adilix | i h ave an usb dvb-t stick with rtl2832U chip, how do i install the drivers there is no package |
| 20:47.23 | rainfyre | well shucks. |
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| 20:47.43 | jelly | dpkg, tell rainfyre about why apt-spy is not in testing |
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| 20:49.04 | rainfyre | hm. hope they reintroduce it after freeze is over |
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| 20:50.02 | teraflop | adilix: by package you mean kernel module? |
| 20:50.33 | adilix | teraflop yes or somethink like it |
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| 20:50.37 | acz32 | good news everyone, dpkg told me jessie should be out by easter |
| 20:50.47 | adilix | teraflop or a firmware package |
| 20:51.00 | adilix | it is recognized but i cant use it |
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| 20:51.45 | jhutchins | adilix: if it's named it's probably already loaded and you just need to talk to it. |
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| 20:51.55 | teraflop | adilix: youll nedd a kernel module and maybe the fw, just chack if the kernel supports that chip (load some module) and/or if it complains about firmware not found |
| 20:52.02 | teraflop | need* |
| 20:52.06 | jhutchins | !v4l |
| 20:52.06 | dpkg | "Video For Linux" (Video4Linux, V4L) is a video capture <API>. The V4L1 API is obsolete and does not work with most newer V4L drivers. http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/What_is_V4L_or_DVB%3F http://www.linuxtv.org/wiki/ http://www.exploits.org/v4l #v4l on irc.freenode.net. See also <dvb>, <webcam>. |
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| 20:53.10 | Mmrtn | Hello. I have two users, radio and www-data. I created a group called radio-web. I added both radio and www-data to the group radio-web. I set up permissions for a folder as such: http://mmrtn.net/i/5b651eed758c2f04dac6cebc0b36469b.png, however the user www-data still seems to be lacking permissions to write inside of it. Any ideas? (I'm using PHP's fopen to create file) |
| 20:53.16 | adilix | thx |
| 20:53.52 | mike802 | http://mike802.blogspot.com/2013/10/fun-with-cleaning.html |
| 20:53.57 | mike802 | happy wednesday |
| 20:54.24 | acz32 | are there any https mirror to use with debian in sources.list? |
| 20:55.07 | jelly | mike802: sorry to ask a stupid question, but why do you often paste blog excerpts that are completely offtopic to a tech support channel like this one? |
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| 20:56.07 | hamrited | Hey. I've been having the weirdest problem. Every once in a while, seemingly at random, I can't type input into anything. instead, certain keys like 'p' and 'arrow up' maximize windows, 's' will close a window, etc. after a few seconds, up to a minute, it stops. |
| 20:56.09 | hamrited | any clue? |
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| 20:56.34 | mike802 | well |
| 20:56.46 | mike802 | i'm trying to get my startup off the ground |
| 20:56.49 | tethra | hamrited: hmm, maybe alt keys are stuck or something? or ctrl, or fn, or similar |
| 20:56.50 | mike802 | so publicity helps |
| 20:56.53 | mike802 | in tech channels |
| 20:56.57 | greycat | dpkg, when will jessie release is also <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html> |
| 20:56.57 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, greycat |
| 20:57.02 | mike802 | yeah, doing it for free is a bit shady |
| 20:57.03 | mike802 | ok? |
| 20:57.10 | jelly | mike802: please keep your publicity off this tech support channel. |
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| 20:57.25 | hamrited | well, i'm runnign the distro on virtualbox and it's fine on my host OS (windows) |
| 20:57.54 | hamrited | it'll happen mostly with hte 'p' button |
| 20:57.54 | greycat | dpkg, when will jessie release =~ s#pool 1>.#pool 1>. See <https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html?# |
| 20:57.54 | dpkg | OK, greycat |
| 20:57.54 | mike802 | so, i have a question |
| 20:57.54 | hamrited | 'p' would make the window maximize, sometimes change resolutions |
| 20:57.58 | greycat | oh damn it |
| 20:57.59 | hamrited | to absurd resolutions |
| 20:58.02 | mike802 | does anyone know why debian is the only distro with java as a standard library |
| 20:58.15 | greycat | dpkg, when will jessie release =~ s/html?/html>/ |
| 20:58.15 | dpkg | greycat: OK |
| 20:58.31 | tethra | greycat: woooo |
| 20:58.57 | rlb- | Hey guys, I have an issue here. My notebook will ocasionally beep even if I modprobe -r pcspkr |
| 20:59.18 | cmtptr | modprobe -r it harder |
| 21:00.02 | rlb- | cmtptr: how could I do that? (with a hammer? (it *really* annoys) lol) |
| 21:00.22 | codebam | why are all my packages outdated... -_- |
| 21:00.28 | cmtptr | rlb-, can you pastebin lsmod? |
| 21:00.56 | rlb- | of course, just a sec |
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| 21:02.27 | cmtptr | also I've seen a "beep" volume in alsamixer before, but I've never seen muting or unmuting it make any difference. might be worth checking into |
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| 21:02.52 | codebam | I cant even install google-musicmanager without having unmet deps |
| 21:03.06 | codebam | cause stuff is outdated... |
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| 21:03.25 | tethra | maybe you should move to jessie? |
| 21:03.52 | codebam | tethra: im on stable... whatever that is. |
| 21:04.23 | tethra | that's wheezy |
| 21:04.38 | codebam | do I need to reinstall to use jessie. or can I just change sources? |
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| 21:05.21 | tethra | you should change sources, update, then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 21:05.31 | tethra | there are guides, find one |
| 21:05.37 | greycat | also /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
| 21:05.54 | tethra | didn't know that was a thing |
| 21:05.56 | tethra | :D |
| 21:05.58 | rlb- | cmtptr: here is the output of lsmod: http://pastebin.com/pZLqmYsd |
| 21:06.36 | codebam | ah cool. thanks ill check that out |
| 21:06.37 | teraflop | codebam: mmh, tried gmusicproxy? i use extensively (not related to google music manager) |
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| 21:07.48 | codebam | teraflop: what is that? is that for mpd or something? |
| 21:08.01 | teraflop | codebam: yep |
| 21:08.20 | codebam | teraflop: sounds cool. I might try that, thanks |
| 21:08.27 | teraflop | codebam: yw |
| 21:08.42 | jhutchins | codebam: The problem is that coders write stuff for bleeding edge versions and no backward compatibility, in spite of the fact that production systems typically have package versions that are 2-3 years behind the latest upstream. |
| 21:09.19 | jhutchins | codebam: We're also approaching the next release of Debian, so stable has gotten a bit long in the tooth. |
| 21:09.50 | codebam | jhutchins: ah okay. can I upgrade to that as a rolling release? |
| 21:11.17 | jhutchins | codebam: You can install testing - I recommend installing it as a dual-boot so you have a fallback when it breaks. Many people run testing or even unstable without real problems, but it helps to know package management well (and to make backups before updating). |
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| 21:13.51 | cmtptr | rlb-, is possible the beep isn't generated by the OS? |
| 21:14.19 | rlb- | cmtptr: oddly enought, I think it is indeep possible |
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| 21:15.07 | rlb- | cmtptr: It may be the beep driving me mad, but it seems to be sometimes in sync with disk i/o |
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| 21:15.20 | cmtptr | weird |
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| 21:15.56 | cmtptr | rlb-, what of you open a terminal and type: echo -e '\a' |
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| 21:16.42 | rlb- | cmtptr: it prints a blank line |
| 21:16.54 | cmtptr | but doesn't beep? |
| 21:16.58 | rlb- | no beep |
| 21:17.07 | cmtptr | I don't think linux is generating your beeps |
| 21:17.19 | rlb- | oh nice... lol |
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| 21:18.16 | cmtptr | but maybe someone smerter than me would have more to say... |
| 21:18.45 | codebam | jhutchins: if im going for unstable id rather go with gentoo or arch. |
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| 21:19.33 | rlb- | cmtptr: the problem is, I eventually stumbled on some people having a similar issue and they say stuff about processor and disk and some misterious stuff about the "timing" of their operation... I don't have a clue :/ |
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| 21:20.11 | rlb- | cmtptr: thanks a lot for your help and attention! :) |
| 21:20.22 | cmtptr | weird stuff |
| 21:20.52 | codebam | installs chromium cause its faster than getting google-musicmanager working |
| 21:21.25 | codebam | and its called pepper-flash right? |
| 21:21.58 | zaffinger | is setting an ip to eth0 with ifconfig permanent? |
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| 21:23.40 | rlb- | cmtptr: no doubt! For instance, right now it beeped during a lag in which the editor was trying to autocomplete; sometimes it beeps when I save a file; most of the time I can't see any cause though |
| 21:25.32 | cmtptr | zaffinger, no |
| 21:26.04 | cmtptr | rlb-, does dmesg show some errors or anything? |
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| 21:28.43 | codebam | where is pepper flash? |
| 21:28.52 | codebam | or is it preinstalled? |
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| 21:30.39 | babilen | judd: v pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:30.40 | judd | Package: pepperflashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 1.4~bpo60+1; sid/contrib: 1.8.1; jessie/contrib: 1.8.1 |
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| 21:31.34 | babilen | codebam: ^^ you have to enable contrib (might also want to consider non-free) and then install pepperflashplugin-nonfree. A sources list such as http://paste.debian.net/164379/ will do nicely for wheezy |
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| 21:32.00 | babilen | Oh, install it from wheezy-backports with "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install pepperflashplugin-nonfree" |
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| 21:32.39 | codebam | babilen: ah okay, thanks |
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| 21:33.38 | babilen | Don't forget to run "apt-get update" after making changes to your sources.list :) |
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| 21:41.07 | adilix | thx cya bye bye |
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| 21:43.53 | rlb- | cmtptr: [ 2664.207164] ACPI Error: [D1F0] Namespace lookup failure, AE_NOT_FOUND (20140424/psargs-359) |
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| 21:53.58 | rlb- | cmtptr: sorry, problems with the power here, my pc rebooted; during the reboot, just before loading grub, it beeped! Well, it seems to be a hardware issue I think... |
| 21:54.26 | cmtptr | yeah, seems like |
| 21:54.49 | cmtptr | might indicate a problem with the CPU |
| 21:55.03 | cmtptr | power issues or reaching critical temperatures or something |
| 21:55.28 | cmtptr | or maybe it's IO-related like you said, I don't know. I'm talking out my ass at this point |
| 21:56.32 | yongyung | If I make a file in /etc/cron.d with the contents "5 0 * * * /etc/job.sh", will that run job.sh every day at 5 past midnight or do I have to "register" the file somewhere? |
| 21:56.57 | rlb- | cmtptr: oh well... I'll try and search for issues with cpu, i/o and beep then; thanks! |
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| 21:59.15 | cmtptr | yongyung, I think that should do it, but admittedly I'm new to debian so maybe they do things weird here, I don't know! |
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| 22:05.57 | Ooze | OF |
| 22:05.58 | Ooze | COURSE |
| 22:06.06 | Ooze | Just thought I finally fixed the server |
| 22:06.16 | Ooze | Thought plugging it in elsewhere was the fix |
| 22:06.22 | Ooze | Been up for 7 hours, was feelings good about it |
| 22:06.26 | Ooze | AND BAM, JUST SHUT DOWN |
| 22:06.42 | Ooze | It never ends, this shit. |
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| 22:08.56 | acz32 | can we use https in our sources.list. are there any URLs which support this? |
| 22:10.08 | blackflow | Ooze: you still wrestling with that old piece of junk? :) |
| 22:10.20 | Ooze | Y-Yes |
| 22:10.31 | Ooze | It's such a headache |
| 22:10.45 | Ooze | So now it's either got to be something w/ the system, overheating, or something w/ the PSUs |
| 22:11.18 | cmtptr | maybe every time rlb-'s notebook beeps your machine shuts off |
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| 22:11.56 | blackflow | Ooze: I had FreeBSD doing that once or twice within every 48 hours. I replaced it with Linux and it stopped doing that :D But before that, I thought about replacing RAM sticks and PSU... |
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| 22:12.22 | Ooze | No one's been able to find anything in the syslog that would be rebooting it |
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| 22:12.36 | Ooze | The translation of the iLO log is just something w/ the power being lost |
| 22:12.49 | Ooze | Can't get drivers for my temp sensors |
| 22:12.51 | blackflow | probably the psu then |
| 22:13.21 | tethra | random reboots and no gauge on temperature? |
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| 22:13.45 | tethra | are your fans running? that one has got me before - replaced a motherboard, cpu and ram before i noticed the cpu fan was broken |
| 22:13.51 | Ooze | HP doesn't have Debian drivers for their heat sensors |
| 22:13.59 | Ooze | Oh yeah they're running, I can hear them from here |
| 22:14.15 | Ooze | It'll sometimes be up just past boot, sometimes 4 hours, sometimes 14 hours |
| 22:14.23 | Ooze | No rhyme or reason to it that I can see |
| 22:14.26 | blackflow | afaik overheating won't hard reset your machine without SOME complaining logged by the kernel first. |
| 22:14.29 | blackflow | esp. not with Xeons |
| 22:15.04 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/erobopusiy.hs |
| 22:15.07 | Ooze | Have fun |
| 22:15.28 | Ooze | That was earlier today/last night. I can get new logs but I'd assume they'd be the same |
| 22:16.28 | cmtptr | why are you looking at snmp logs |
| 22:16.48 | Ooze | Because couldn't find anything in the syslog that was indicative of the problem |
| 22:16.55 | Ooze | Someone suggested I set that up |
| 22:16.57 | Ooze | And there it is |
| 22:16.59 | rlb- | cmtptr: lol then I can fell Ooze's pain... good luck! |
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| 22:17.45 | Ooze | I've been struggling w/ this since Saturday |
| 22:17.49 | Ooze | on the verge of tears |
| 22:19.20 | tethra | :( |
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| 22:19.34 | jelly | Ooze: anything new in IML? |
| 22:19.37 | tethra | can you not just set this machine on fire and replace it with something that doesn't do this? |
| 22:19.51 | Ooze | I juuuuuuuust bought it last month |
| 22:19.55 | Ooze | $90 isn't going to waste |
| 22:20.02 | Ooze | I'll check |
| 22:20.02 | tethra | can you not return it? :/ |
| 22:20.08 | jelly | your tears are cheap, Ooze |
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| 22:20.22 | Ooze | I already migrated my Debian system to it :( |
| 22:20.37 | srg | What's a good desktop calculator? I'm on Jessie with Xfce (so nothing with crazy KDE/Gnome deps please) |
| 22:20.46 | cmtptr | lua |
| 22:20.58 | jelly | tethra: it's 12 years old server hw. it was nice when new, but now... a $90 smartphone has more power |
| 22:21.40 | tethra | right |
| 22:21.42 | jelly | but a smartphone doesn't have redundant power supplies or lights-out management |
| 22:21.42 | Ooze | I'm getting Secure Connection Failed when I try to login to iLO now |
| 22:22.12 | blackflow | Ooze: in case over overheating, there are two thresholds, both logged, and it won't just reboot, it'll halt and you have to reboot it manually. Reading from Intel's specs and docs on Xeons. |
| 22:22.30 | blackflow | What you have there is most likely an issue with the PSU. |
| 22:22.41 | Ooze | Well both of them? |
| 22:22.51 | Ooze | Feel like that's got to be strange |
| 22:23.38 | jelly | could be the mobo, who knows |
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| 22:23.51 | Ooze | Well then why does it still run fine until it shuts down? |
| 22:24.00 | Ooze | No difference in performance, it'll just reboot every once and a while |
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| 22:24.08 | jelly | at 12 years, it might be worth to check for obviously problematic caps |
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| 22:24.41 | Ooze | I've got a poweredge stacked on top of it because I couldn't be bothered to install the rails, would that have any effect? |
| 22:24.54 | jelly | no, not really |
| 22:24.57 | Ooze | Other than me having to lift the goddamn thing off of it to troubleshoot hardware |
| 22:25.02 | Ooze | Yeah I wouldn't think so |
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| 22:25.32 | jelly | it pulls air from the front and blows it out the back, like all normal rack hw |
| 22:25.51 | ScottE | srg: I like galculator (runs just fine in i3wm, so no gnome/kde deps) |
| 22:27.07 | Ooze | Maybe it's this new FF update |
| 22:27.13 | Ooze | but I can't log into iLO anymore |
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| 22:27.56 | srg | ScottE: Thanks! |
| 22:28.01 | Ooze | WHY WHY WHY |
| 22:28.49 | ScottE | Sure srg |
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| 22:34.44 | tomivs | Hi all, I'm in trouble with my graphic card |
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| 22:43.03 | Ooze | Why the fuck does firefox release these shitty new versions that are still bug-ridden? |
| 22:43.23 | Ooze | They just pump them out weekly now it seems |
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| 22:51.19 | soundtoxin | I just put in a new 3TB drive and formatted it in btrfs with gparted, but now I'm having trouble mounting it |
| 22:51.28 | soundtoxin | clicking on it in thunar tells me I have no permission |
| 22:51.39 | soundtoxin | mounting it a more traditional way results in this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4202804/screenshots/2015-04-01-174758_392x115_scrot.png |
| 22:52.08 | soundtoxin | so do I have to add it to my fstab? where can I find out the proper formatting to do so? |
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| 22:56.47 | mtn | soundtoxin: the debian wiki to the rescue! https://wiki.debian.org/fstab |
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| 22:57.28 | Fusselkater | soundtoxin: you try to mount the whole hard disk instead of a partition. is that correct? |
| 22:57.30 | soundtoxin | mtn: I just thought maybe btrfs has extra weird formatting since I know my line in fstab for my ntfs drive is different than my ext4 drives |
| 22:57.39 | soundtoxin | Fusselkater: ah maybe that was it |
| 22:57.42 | mtn | soundtoxin: man mount might be helpful, too |
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| 22:58.11 | soundtoxin | hahaha Fusselkater helped me get it mounted now |
| 22:58.17 | soundtoxin | I tried sdb1 instead of sdb |
| 22:58.23 | soundtoxin | but I should probably fix fstab so it does this at boot |
| 22:59.05 | Ooze | Oooookay, got back into iLO. Here's the log if anyone wants to give it a look |
| 22:59.06 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/rirehiyeba.hs |
| 22:59.15 | Ooze | Gonna go investigate the hardware |
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| 23:05.38 | soundtoxin | is there a standard for where to mount additional hard drives or should I just mount it to a folder on my OS drive? |
| 23:06.30 | mtn | soundtoxin: if a one user system, your home folder would be a good choice |
| 23:06.44 | soundtoxin | alright that's what I was thinking |
| 23:06.48 | soundtoxin | thanks |
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| 23:08.53 | shentino | soundtoxin: Depends, are these mounts temporary or do you plan to use them for an extended period? |
| 23:09.18 | shentino | /media is the standard superdir for removable media |
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| 23:09.52 | StolenToast | is there a built-in cli utility that lets me paste things to paste.debian.net? |
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| 23:12.34 | Ooze | Should I stick a live CD in it and see how long it'll stay on? |
| 23:12.49 | Ooze | That would at least differenciate between Debian and hardware issues |
| 23:12.51 | Ooze | I'd think... |
| 23:13.12 | Ooze | t not c, I knew it |
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| 23:14.36 | soundtoxin | shentino: I know about /media but this is a permanent 3TB drive I just added |
| 23:14.50 | shentino | How are you going to use it? |
| 23:14.56 | jelly | Ooze: is the machine's firmware all patched up? |
| 23:15.00 | soundtoxin | storing anime and such, just a general storage drive |
| 23:15.16 | vamps | StolenToast: you can use the package "pastebinit" (pastebinit -b paste.debian.net <file>) |
| 23:15.31 | StolenToast | cool thanks |
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| 23:15.42 | jelly | Ooze: iLO 1.94 is latest, but bios and hw raid and disks and other stuff might have "updates" |
| 23:15.48 | soundtoxin | StolenToast: alias paste="curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us" |
| 23:15.53 | soundtoxin | then pipe stuff to it |
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| 23:16.37 | StolenToast | also cool, thanks |
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| 23:17.20 | jelly | Ooze: tho good luck downloading old FW .isos without a support contract |
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| 23:20.03 | soundtoxin | "/dev/sdb1 /home/soundtoxin/kosaki btrfs defaults 0 2" |
| 23:20.06 | soundtoxin | does this look good for my fstab |
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| 23:23.40 | ctmjr | soundtoxin: yes it looks fine |
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| 23:23.55 | soundtoxin | ctmjr: is there any reason to use the UUID in place of /dev/sdb1? |
| 23:24.11 | Ooze | jelly, yeah HP doesn't care to support anything older than what they can profit from right now |
| 23:24.21 | Ooze | Only seems they have driver support for the most recent gen stuff |
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| 23:24.57 | Ooze | jelly, how about that live CD idea though? Just running Debian live for a day should be able to tell me whether it's the OS or if it's the hardware |
| 23:25.38 | ctmjr | soundtoxin: /dev/sd* can change uuid stays the same as long as you do not reformat the drive |
| 23:25.51 | shentino | soundtoxin: I wouldn't use btrfs |
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| 23:25.58 | soundtoxin | shentino: why not |
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| 23:26.09 | shentino | it's still in flux and anime sounds important |
| 23:26.20 | soundtoxin | you think there's a realistic chance of data loss? |
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| 23:26.40 | shentino | yeah |
| 23:26.50 | soundtoxin | hm |
| 23:26.52 | shentino | last time I used it it completely imploded |
| 23:26.56 | soundtoxin | oh |
| 23:27.03 | soundtoxin | well if you're speaking from experience I will trust you |
| 23:27.21 | shentino | I am |
| 23:27.26 | shentino | plus I don't trust oracle |
| 23:27.48 | soundtoxin | hm |
| 23:27.49 | soundtoxin | okay |
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| 23:28.15 | Fusselkater | im using btrfs for half a year without data loss :D |
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| 23:28.26 | shentino | as for where to mount it I'd almost up and move /home into the 3tb partition |
| 23:28.40 | shentino | actually, are you using lvm by chance? |
| 23:28.45 | soundtoxin | don't know what 1vm is |
| 23:29.00 | soundtoxin | I have / and /home on a third drive that is 10krpm |
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| 23:29.41 | soundtoxin | oh is that an l not a 1 |
| 23:29.47 | soundtoxin | I'm not using logical volume management |
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| 23:36.09 | jelly | Ooze: what driver support tho, that machine worked really well back with debian 4 or 5 |
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| 23:53.35 | ctmjr | ls /etclightdm |
| 23:53.41 | ctmjr | ls /etc/lightdm |
| 23:53.48 | ctmjr | ls /etc/gdm |
| 23:53.55 | ctmjr | ls /etc/gdm3 |
| 23:54.59 | ctmjr | no wonder i cannot find it, time for bed |
| 23:55.18 | Ooze | jelly, this machine has never had debian support |
| 23:55.26 | Ooze | I've linked the OS list at least half a dozen times |
| 23:55.35 | Ooze | There's red hat and stuff, not Debian |
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