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| 00:03.32 | jelly | Ooze: there may never have been support officially because at that time noone have support for running debian. |
| 00:03.39 | jelly | had* |
| 00:03.57 | Ooze | Well what do you think of that Live CD thing? |
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| 00:04.09 | Ooze | Shouldn't that allow me to tell between whether it's the system installation or the hw? |
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| 00:05.32 | jelly | Ooze: that might maybe exclude some hw issues, but no I don't see how that could be conclusive |
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| 00:06.18 | jelly | Ooze: did you get any traps from ilo when the thing rebooted last? |
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| 00:06.23 | Ooze | Well if it runs for a whole day then it would likely be something w/ my Debian install |
| 00:06.38 | Ooze | All those numbers, still don't know how to work mips |
| 00:06.49 | jelly | MIBs |
| 00:07.06 | Ooze | Yeah, that |
| 00:07.47 | Ooze | When I tried starting up the server w/ one PSU unplugged, it gave me an error |
| 00:07.54 | Ooze | So I'd think I'd be getting something like that if one of them were bad |
| 00:07.56 | Ooze | But I don't |
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| 00:08.17 | jelly | the right MIBs might not even be present at all, install snmp-mibs-downloader on the snmptrapd machine and run "download-mibs" |
| 00:08.32 | Ooze | Yeah I did that already |
| 00:08.33 | jelly | Ooze: which error precisely? |
| 00:08.59 | Ooze | Well there's a light on the machine that was red because both PSUs weren't plugged in, and an error when I booted |
| 00:11.06 | jelly | oh well. Good luck. |
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| 00:35.19 | BenLue | hello together, can anyone help my with my little Script: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/09d19bad/ |
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| 00:35.44 | BenLue | I know the script isnt perfect :P but how its working with mktemp? |
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| 00:41.41 | Brigo | BenLue, it is not working with mktemp |
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| 00:44.01 | BenLue | Brigo; why? |
| 00:44.39 | BenLue | can anyone give me an Solution? |
| 00:44.43 | Brigo | BenLue, it is a command, you have to use it, see the man page (man mktemp) |
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| 01:12.28 | soundtoxin | I am unable to create a new folder on my 3TB EXT4 partition with thunar |
| 01:12.37 | soundtoxin | I have experienced similar issues writing to fat32 flash drives |
| 01:12.44 | soundtoxin | what is a solution besides opening thunar as root |
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| 01:18.38 | buu | soundtoxin: what are the permissions on the partition? |
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| 01:23.45 | soundtoxin | buu: how do I check that? |
| 01:23.51 | soundtoxin | fstab or elsewhere? |
| 01:24.21 | cmtptr | ls -ld /path/to/the/mount/point |
| 01:24.28 | soundtoxin | alright one moment |
| 01:24.41 | soundtoxin | soundtoxin@supernova:~$ ls -ld kosaki/ |
| 01:24.41 | soundtoxin | drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 1 18:31 kosaki/ |
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| 01:25.22 | soundtoxin | and since it also happens with flash drives here are usb1 permissions |
| 01:25.23 | soundtoxin | drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Oct 17 22:45 /media/usb1/ |
| 01:26.36 | cmtptr | just so you know how to read that, they're grouped in threes (after the d, which indicates it's a directory): user (rwx), group (r-x), and others (r-x). |
| 01:26.46 | cmtptr | only the user has write access there |
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| 01:28.08 | buu | *owner |
| 01:28.17 | cmtptr | yeah, that |
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| 01:28.17 | buu | Who happens to be root |
| 01:28.46 | buu | soundtoxin: For whatever reason you mounted and set the permissions to be root owned |
| 01:29.14 | buu | soundtoxin: You can probably just do sudo chown -R $USER:$USER kosaki/ |
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| 01:31.18 | soundtoxin | alright |
| 01:31.34 | soundtoxin | usually I just type my username once with chown and I've never used a flag |
| 01:31.39 | soundtoxin | guess I'll check the man page for what -R does |
| 01:31.57 | soundtoxin | ah recursive like I thought |
| 01:32.45 | soundtoxin | since I'm the only user on this machine should I also do that to usb0 and usb1? |
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| 01:33.15 | Yoques | Hi. I only want to agree all the time jokes with me, the ignored comentaris, and the little bit help puntually. It helps me to forget debian source and not spend my time anyway. Good luck in your multiple forks and internal wars. Bye. |
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| 01:33.44 | kWO901 | I latelly noticed a lag when I power up my machine, it takes longer until the bios password is asked |
| 01:34.06 | kWO901 | (i have ssd with bios pass on) |
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| 01:38.57 | cmtptr | soundtoxin, put these in your fstab with the "user" option |
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| 01:39.08 | cmtptr | this allows you to mount them without sudo |
| 01:39.15 | soundtoxin | oh that sounds like what I want |
| 01:39.32 | soundtoxin | hm |
| 01:39.33 | cmtptr | but the permissions stick with the partition, not the directory before it's mounted |
| 01:39.37 | soundtoxin | my usb0 and usb1 already have the user option |
| 01:39.54 | cmtptr | so while they're mounted, set the ownership and permissions the way you want |
| 01:40.05 | cmtptr | for that you'll probably need sudo |
| 01:40.50 | soundtoxin | so how will I edit the permissions, and will I do it to the directory usb0 and usb1 mount to or to the partitions themselves? |
| 01:41.14 | buu | soundtoxin: fat32 partitions don't have permissions so its entirely how you mount it |
| 01:41.32 | cmtptr | you assume it's fat32 |
| 01:41.32 | buu | ext3-4 has permissions so linux will respect them by default |
| 01:41.41 | buu | Well, no, I don't because he said it earlier. |
| 01:41.46 | cmtptr | oh |
| 01:42.16 | cmtptr | so he did, sorry |
| 01:42.16 | buu | =] |
| 01:42.16 | soundtoxin | I can mount NTFS external hard drives and write to them as a user but not my fat32 flash drives |
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| 01:42.23 | soundtoxin | happens on both my desktop and laptop with similar setups |
| 01:42.33 | cmtptr | soundtoxin, since you already have "user" set in fstab, just don't use sudo to mount the usb0 and usb1 |
| 01:42.41 | soundtoxin | I don't do so |
| 01:42.55 | buu | soundtoxin: How do you mount it? |
| 01:42.59 | soundtoxin | I rarely if ever mount with the mount command |
| 01:43.04 | soundtoxin | it either auto mounts or I click on it with thunar |
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| 01:43.55 | soundtoxin | okay so I plugged in my flashdrive and it shows up under DEVICES in thunar |
| 01:44.33 | soundtoxin | AH I see the problem |
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| 01:44.40 | soundtoxin | flash drives show up as sdd not sdc |
| 01:44.43 | soundtoxin | I think I can fix this in my fstab |
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| 01:45.44 | cmtptr | use their UUIDs to avoid that problem |
| 01:45.45 | hassoon | i wonder what could be a lightweight graphical file manager coming with many features, dolphin comes with many other dependencies, with 82 MB of tital size extractable to around 213 MB |
| 01:46.00 | soundtoxin | cmtptr: don't I need an entry for every flash drive I ever use then? |
| 01:46.11 | hassoon | googles anyway |
| 01:46.12 | cmtptr | oh, well... yeah... |
| 01:46.17 | soundtoxin | that sounds dreadful |
| 01:46.25 | cmtptr | since I only own two, that's how I do it |
| 01:46.41 | soundtoxin | for my desktop that's _almost_ feasible, but for my laptop it would frequently be someone else's flash drive I'd imagine |
| 01:46.59 | soundtoxin | I got rid of the faded usb0 and usb1 entries by editing my fstab but I still can't create new folders on this flash drive |
| 01:48.06 | buu | soundtoxin: usbmount? |
| 01:48.20 | soundtoxin | buu: what is usbmount? |
| 01:48.34 | buu | A program that mounts usb |
| 01:48.46 | soundtoxin | alright |
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| 01:49.52 | soundtoxin | buu: does it require any configuration? |
| 01:50.03 | soundtoxin | I installed it and I don't think it fixed the permissions issue |
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| 01:50.21 | buu | uh |
| 01:50.24 | buu | Did it mount it? |
| 01:50.25 | soundtoxin | it does indeed automount now |
| 01:50.30 | buu | well |
| 01:50.53 | buu | its got a usbmount.conf |
| 01:51.02 | buu | I would suggest poking it |
| 01:51.30 | soundtoxin | where is it stored? |
| 01:51.32 | buu | When I mount cifs shares I just do uid=buu,gid=buu,forceuid,forcegid,rw |
| 01:51.35 | buu | soundtoxin: /etc |
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| 01:51.54 | soundtoxin | found it thanks |
| 01:52.31 | soundtoxin | looks pretty barebones |
| 01:52.40 | soundtoxin | my filesystem is supported, it mounts to the right spot |
| 01:52.44 | soundtoxin | I don't see anything related to permissions |
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| 01:52.47 | soundtoxin | there are mount options though |
| 01:52.49 | soundtoxin | anything I can do there? |
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| 01:53.31 | buu | Add the stuff I just mentioned? |
| 01:54.53 | kWO901 | is this scrip good enough for running these apps at startup / ? http://paste.debian.net/164407/ |
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| 01:57.08 | soundtoxin | buu: the forceuid and forcegid stuff? |
| 01:57.13 | buu | Sure |
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| 01:57.43 | soundtoxin | I'm not sure that'll do me any good when I don't know what or where to put uid and gid things |
| 01:57.51 | buu | uh |
| 01:57.56 | buu | What does usbmount.conf look like? |
| 01:58.19 | soundtoxin | buu: http://sprunge.us/TWKC |
| 01:59.02 | buu | soundtoxin: add it to the FS_MOUNTOPTIONS line |
| 02:00.17 | soundtoxin | okay but I don't understand what uid and gid are |
| 02:00.21 | buu | your username |
| 02:00.44 | soundtoxin | okay but is gid group id? |
| 02:00.48 | buu | yes |
| 02:01.09 | soundtoxin | are users in groups named after themselves or something? what's the benefit of adding that in addition to uid? |
| 02:01.14 | buu | And I changed my mind, append it to the MOUNTOPTIONS line, not the FS_ part |
| 02:01.17 | buu | And yes, they are |
| 02:01.25 | buu | Every use has a group with its name |
| 02:01.37 | buu | And the benefit is just general cleanliness in this case |
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| 02:02.17 | soundtoxin | alright |
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| 02:03.01 | soundtoxin | buu: the problem persists |
| 02:03.38 | buu | soundtoxin: What does dmesg say? |
| 02:03.40 | kWO901 | why do i get this error? http://paste.debian.net/164408/ |
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| 02:04.09 | buu | kWO901: Are you running X? |
| 02:04.15 | kWO901 | yes |
| 02:04.17 | kWO901 | buu: |
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| 02:04.23 | buu | What is $DISPLAY set to? |
| 02:04.36 | kWO901 | buu: how do i find that? |
| 02:04.39 | buu | echo $DISPLAY |
| 02:04.43 | buu | or actually |
| 02:05.15 | kWO901 | user@x:~$ echo $DISPLAY |
| 02:05.16 | soundtoxin | buu: this is all the output but you probably just want what's at the bottom http://sprunge.us/WeTN |
| 02:05.16 | kWO901 | :0 |
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| 02:05.46 | buu | kWO901: Well, I'm assuming you need to get that value into whatever sudo service start-up is running |
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| 02:05.56 | buu | kWO901: Your user has DISPLAY set but I'm guessing whatever that thing is doing doesn't |
| 02:06.09 | buu | Why the heck do you have a service trying to run a gtk program? |
| 02:06.36 | kWO901 | buu: i cretaed a script and want to run it at startup |
| 02:06.57 | buu | oh god |
| 02:07.53 | kWO901 | buu: i cretaed a script and want to run it at startup |
| 02:08.17 | buu | kWO901: https://wiki.debian.org/Xinitrc |
| 02:08.44 | buu | soundtoxin: So wait.. were usb things mounting automatically before you installed usbmount? |
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| 02:09.14 | kWO901 | buu: thx |
| 02:09.20 | soundtoxin | buu: I don't think so. I had a method to do so in my fstab but I still had to click the drive in thunar for it to be mounted I think |
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| 02:09.54 | buu | soundtoxin: Um, try changing the config file so that verbose=yes |
| 02:10.00 | soundtoxin | buu: but here's my fstab http://sprunge.us/cAZj |
| 02:10.00 | buu | soundtoxin: and make sure you restart usbmount |
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| 02:10.04 | soundtoxin | okay |
| 02:10.58 | buu | And uh comment out those //sdd lines |
| 02:11.05 | soundtoxin | sudo service usbmount restart didn't work and there are no results when I pgrep usbmount |
| 02:11.06 | soundtoxin | alright |
| 02:11.10 | buu | I'm not sure if they're related or not but I'd like to minimize |
| 02:11.11 | buu | uh |
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| 02:11.47 | buu | Oh usbmount isn't a daemon |
| 02:12.30 | soundtoxin | how do I restart it then? |
| 02:12.40 | buu | You shouldn't need to |
| 02:12.43 | soundtoxin | ah |
| 02:12.51 | buu | I just assumed you did |
| 02:13.09 | buu | soundtoxin: So if you plug in a disk now does dmesg say anything about usmount? |
| 02:14.04 | soundtoxin | [13324.734809] FAT-fs (sdd1): Unrecognized mount option "forceuid" or missing value |
| 02:14.08 | soundtoxin | I don't see usmount |
| 02:14.28 | soundtoxin | oh it works now though |
| 02:14.36 | soundtoxin | I guess letting usbmount handle it instead of fstab fixed it |
| 02:14.39 | buu | welp |
| 02:15.11 | soundtoxin | and it doesn't even tell me I don't have permission when I unmount it now |
| 02:15.12 | soundtoxin | great |
| 02:15.16 | soundtoxin | buu: thank you for the help |
| 02:15.33 | buu | =] |
| 02:15.40 | buu | soundtoxin: Apparently you should delete the forceuid,forcegid lines |
| 02:15.44 | buu | But since it ignores them anyway |
| 02:16.06 | soundtoxin | yeah I'll probably do that just to make logs cleaner |
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| 02:17.15 | buu | Apparently there's also pmount for cleaner manual mounting or something. Dunno. |
| 02:17.33 | soundtoxin | I just used pumount to unmount the flash drive a minute ago when clicking eject denied me permission |
| 02:17.40 | soundtoxin | the usbmount config mentioned it |
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| 02:18.29 | buu | ah |
| 02:19.02 | buu | soundtoxin: I mean, this is kind of a work around, I suspect your desktop environment also has some kind of thing that wants to automount things so you could figure out how to configure that |
| 02:19.07 | buu | I just happen to know of this one |
| 02:19.17 | soundtoxin | I don't have a DE, I just use openbox |
| 02:19.34 | soundtoxin | if anything is automounting it would probably be my thunar file manager |
| 02:21.19 | buu | Sounds likely |
| 02:21.31 | soundtoxin | and I kinda got the workaround vibe but I appreciate it anyway |
| 02:21.41 | soundtoxin | I'll deploy this workaround to my other machine until I have a better understanding of the real issue |
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| 02:42.40 | Arquim3des | hi |
| 02:43.08 | Arquim3des | Can anybody help me with a problem that I'm having |
| 02:43.17 | dvs | !ask |
| 02:43.17 | Arquim3des | with my touch pad |
| 02:43.17 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 02:48.43 | MrMonkey31 | hi, I'm running Debian 8 and |
| 02:48.52 | MrMonkey31 | I can't get past the welcome screen. any ideas? |
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| 02:50.24 | Arquim3des | Recently I have a problem with my Touchpad, I'm running Debian Testing Jessie, Sometimes when I'm doing normal task my touchpad just get freeze, I'm working with I3wm version 4.8 , I would like to know about the mouse kernel module to kill it and restart |
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| 02:54.24 | rl2 | Arquim3des; |
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| 02:55.57 | rl2 | it happens t0 me too, made a sc4ipt to do that reset-mouse.sh |
| 02:56.38 | rl2 | sorry, kbd w problems |
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| 03:04.17 | MrHeavy | Anyone know where I can find the source package associated with this? https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/python-xstatic-term.js_0.0.4.2-1.html#binary-python-xstatic-term.js-control |
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| 03:17.15 | asterismo | hi people |
| 03:17.20 | asterismo | i need help with something |
| 03:17.52 | asterismo | i need to configure sslh multiplexer on debian but it is giving me an error of address already in use, port 443 |
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| 03:18.10 | asterismo | does anyone has experience with this? |
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| 03:21.03 | danwomansan | hello |
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| 03:23.43 | MrHeavy | asterismo: Run: ss -lnp | grep :443 |
| 03:23.51 | MrHeavy | That will tell you what's already listening on that port |
| 03:24.16 | MrHeavy | If you don't have anything listening on that port, you might be trying to run it as a non-root user -- only root can bind to ports < 1024 |
| 03:24.43 | shentino | ...wait a minute isn't 443 for HTTPS? |
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| 03:27.36 | asterismo | yes |
| 03:27.52 | asterismo | but on some networks the only ports open are 80 and 443 |
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| 03:28.08 | asterismo | so i have to setup a sslh daemon for allow ssh over 443 |
| 03:28.27 | asterismo | i had it run once but i was tweaking apache and ports and now i broke sslh |
| 03:28.34 | asterismo | and i dunno where to look to fix |
| 03:29.10 | asterismo | i cannot enable sslh because it says port is: https:bind: Address already in use failed! |
| 03:29.12 | asterismo | so |
| 03:30.39 | danwomansan | I feel dumb for asking this but is there anything special that needs to be done in the install process if I have an existing efi setup with another operating system |
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| 03:30.52 | danwomansan | I can't figure out how to google this issue |
| 03:33.38 | asterismo | MrHeavy: http://paste.debian.net/164414/ |
| 03:34.23 | MrHeavy | You already have Apache listening on port 443, you can't run two services on the same IP+port |
| 03:35.02 | asterismo | so i remember something about listen 127.0.0.1:443 |
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| 03:35.11 | asterismo | maybe i had that to prevent that right? |
| 03:35.31 | asterismo | maybe apache2.conf |
| 03:35.35 | asterismo | or ports.conf? |
| 03:36.01 | shellclear | does someone know to switch from intel igpu to ati dgpu? |
| 03:36.05 | asterismo | i think that was the hack, make apache listen on localhost's port 443 |
| 03:36.05 | MrHeavy | There's plenty of places it could be defined, but the line you're looking for will probably just read "Listen 443" |
| 03:36.21 | MrHeavy | So if you grep -r 'Listen 443' /etc/apache2, you should find it |
| 03:36.39 | asterismo | how can i get apache listen on 127.0.0.1:443? |
| 03:36.42 | shay_shay | Danwomansan you need to boot the installer with UEFI... |
| 03:36.49 | MrHeavy | Change 'Listen 443' to 'Listen 127.0.0.1:443' |
| 03:36.54 | danwomansan | is that all I have to do, shay_shay? |
| 03:37.20 | danwomansan | because if that's it then I've worried for nothing |
| 03:37.30 | MrHeavy | Once that's done, you can run sslh on 443, but you cannot bind it to 0.0.0.0 (all IP addresses), you have to tell it to bind to your network IP explicitly |
| 03:37.58 | shay_shay | danwomansan: it should automatically detect your ESP if its on the same drive. have you already resized your first OSes file system? |
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| 03:38.06 | danwomansan | arch and gentoo etc. making me fear EFI... |
| 03:38.19 | danwomansan | shay_shay I installed it with a later debian install in mind |
| 03:38.26 | shay_shay | danwomansan: ESP will end up getting mounted as /boot/efi btw |
| 03:39.00 | shay_shay | danwomansan: is your other uefi OS using secure boot? |
| 03:39.34 | danwomansan | dunno, might actually explain all the issues I had with arch and gentoo when I tried efi install for those two a few months ago... |
| 03:39.52 | shay_shay | you couldnt boot? |
| 03:39.58 | danwomansan | yeah, couldn't boot |
| 03:40.10 | danwomansan | entries existed but boot kicked me back to menu |
| 03:40.11 | shay_shay | well gentoo and arch require you to know how to install a bootloader, so that could be part of it |
| 03:40.40 | danwomansan | heh I've done it a lot, I'm coming back to debian because I'm going through too much stress lately to deal with either |
| 03:40.54 | shay_shay | its good to know how to install a bootloader successfully though, danwomansan, it may save your bacon one day |
| 03:40.55 | asterismo | MrHeavy: now i have apache running and sslh but i cannot access HTTPS on the server |
| 03:41.00 | danwomansan | you know what, I remember explicitly turning on secure boot at one point about a year ago |
| 03:41.22 | MrHeavy | asterismo: You just bound Apache to 127.0.0.1, that means you can only access it from localhost |
| 03:41.30 | MrHeavy | You cannot run both these services on the same IP and the same port |
| 03:41.36 | MrHeavy | It absolutely does not, will not work that way |
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| 03:41.40 | shay_shay | danwomansan: well you can use secureboot with debian, but get it installed without it first. youll have to look into installing efi shim from fedora (like ubuntu uses) |
| 03:42.00 | danwomansan | I don't really have a need for secure boot |
| 03:42.07 | danwomansan | not exactly in a situation where I need security |
| 03:42.21 | MrHeavy | It looks like that's why you're trying to use sslh in the first place |
| 03:42.22 | shay_shay | what is your other os? it might require it |
| 03:42.27 | danwomansan | windows |
| 03:42.41 | MrHeavy | First, you need to make sure ssh is forwarding HTTPS traffic to Apache on 127.0.0.1 and not your network IP address |
| 03:42.50 | danwomansan | installed because some games I play with my SO don't work in wine |
| 03:42.51 | MrHeavy | Ugh, stupid Colloquy autocorrect |
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| 03:43.11 | MrHeavy | *Make sure sslh is forwarding |
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| 03:44.57 | shay_shay | danwomansan: what version of windows |
| 03:45.06 | asterismo | but |
| 03:45.23 | asterismo | MrHeavy: how do i verify sslh is forwarding? |
| 03:45.25 | danwomansan | 10, since I lost my 8 disc |
| 03:45.27 | MrMonkey31 | so like I really need help with this OS. version 8.0 doesn't seem to have the famed reliability I expected. and it's telling me the weather wrong!... |
| 03:45.37 | danwomansan | and don't have any more blanks |
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| 03:46.47 | MrHeavy | asterismo: Can you post your sslh.cfg? |
| 03:47.12 | asterismo | yes |
| 03:47.16 | asterismo | 1 sec |
| 03:47.55 | asterismo | http://paste.debian.net/164416/ |
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| 03:49.09 | shay_shay | danwomansan: you might want to read this: http://www.rodsbooks.com/efi-bootloaders/secureboot.html |
| 03:49.38 | shay_shay | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:49.50 | shay_shay | you can get the latest off their git repository |
| 03:51.46 | MrHeavy | asterismo: Do "ss -lnp | grep :443" again |
| 03:52.01 | danwomansan | I'll try to see if windows boots without secure boot first |
| 03:52.18 | danwomansan | I don't have much more room for extra stuff like that in my sanity right now |
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| 03:53.01 | asterismo | http://paste.debian.net/164417/ |
| 03:53.43 | danwomansan | hmm, definitely have less time to do that tonight than I thought though... maybe I'll have time to do a few test restarts |
| 03:54.18 | asterismo | MrHeavy: WAITTT!!! |
| 03:54.20 | asterismo | damn!!! |
| 03:54.37 | asterismo | it's workin |
| 03:54.49 | asterismo | i did apache reload but it was stopped |
| 03:54.53 | asterismo | so stupid!! |
| 03:56.40 | MrHeavy | Haha |
| 03:56.49 | MrHeavy | I knew that your problem was Apache not running |
| 03:56.53 | MrHeavy | Glad you got it figured out! |
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| 04:52.33 | soundtoxin | quick question for you guys, how do you dictate commands to people (in real life)? I typically tell people to "run" things, but I noticed the guy i was talking to was literally typing run before every command I said |
| 04:52.45 | soundtoxin | he wasn't dumb or anything, but it made me feel I wasn't speaking in an easy to understand way |
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| 04:55.01 | shay_shay | I have a hard time communicating spaces dashes or slashes |
| 04:55.54 | andybug | I'm always hesitant to say pipe or bar |
| 04:56.36 | soundtoxin | I'm fine with saying pipe and slash usually but it does become a pain to communicate spaces and dashes |
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| 04:57.17 | shay_shay | Pipe |
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| 04:57.41 | shay_shay | Bang |
| 04:57.56 | shay_shay | Splat (my word for 6 point star) |
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| 04:58.17 | shay_shay | Er 5 point ? |
| 04:58.35 | shay_shay | Whatever number of points the asterisks is |
| 04:58.51 | shay_shay | Or I call it glob to further confuse people |
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| 05:01.28 | shingouz | of course you occasionally have to give single character parameters, like a -P. personally, i would use "dash capital papa", assuming the receiving end has enough clue to understand the alpha, bravo, charlie thingie. |
| 05:02.18 | soundtoxin | oh the phonetic alphabet |
| 05:02.24 | shingouz | yup |
| 05:02.43 | soundtoxin | my brother obnoxiously uses that whenever he can because he had to learn it when he got his HAM radio license |
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| 05:04.56 | shingouz | it comes in handy. my surname begins with Tuu. spelling that out on the phone as in "tee you you" results in "tee double you"... after some hemming and hawing, "tango uniform uniform" sinks in pretty well |
| 05:05.31 | soundtoxin | I should probably learn it |
| 05:05.37 | soundtoxin | phone calls can be painful |
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| 05:06.26 | shingouz | the ten and thirteen codes can be useful too... just do not slurp coffee when you check out the 13-code ;) |
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| 05:36.06 | y978z | ls |
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| 05:46.40 | y978z | thanks debian |
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| 05:49.09 | y978z | anyway to make pgp to encrypt your mail on the email service |
| 05:49.57 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 05:50.36 | y978z | trying to make something that does that |
| 05:54.18 | darxmurf | I have a web page with a form which queries an old "shop" server about products, the result is displayed in an iFrame. Now I need to install some kind of proxy to always use the WebServer IP address to query the "shop" server. Is there something for that ? |
| 05:54.31 | darxmurf | like a Proxy module or I don't know ? |
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| 05:55.12 | valdyn | darxmurf: you want to redirect and ip and the port |
| 05:55.25 | valdyn | darxmurf: thats right? or just redirect a dns name? |
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| 05:56.17 | darxmurf | nop, just use the WebServer IP address to launch the query instead of the client IP address |
| 05:56.30 | valdyn | darxmurf: so redirect an ip |
| 05:57.00 | darxmurf | yep |
| 05:57.06 | valdyn | http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-redirecting-network-traffic-to-a-new-ip-using-iptables/ |
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| 05:57.30 | darxmurf | hmmm |
| 05:57.36 | darxmurf | but |
| 05:57.59 | valdyn | darxmurf: hmm, that howto is not to be done litereally, it does more than 1 ip redirect |
| 05:58.25 | valdyn | darxmurf: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14704957/how-to-redirect-ip-address-using-iptables |
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| 05:58.42 | valdyn | darxmurf: that one is better |
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| 05:59.10 | valdyn | darxmurf: you can do it on the site where the webserver is running or on a router (if the ip is not in the local subnet) |
| 05:59.14 | darxmurf | not sure if it's what I need in fact |
| 05:59.29 | valdyn | darxmurf: i am pretty much, unless you description is totally off |
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| 06:00.09 | valdyn | darxmurf: you want to redirect one ip like 192.168.1.10 to another, like 192.168.2.1 |
| 06:00.16 | darxmurf | nop |
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| 06:00.23 | darxmurf | wait I'll try to make it clear :) |
| 06:00.25 | valdyn | darxmurf: ok, but thats what you asked ;) |
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| 06:01.31 | darxmurf | [ WEB SERVER IP 1.2.3.4 ] --------- [ OLD SHOP SERVER IP 4.5.6.7 ] |
| 06:01.42 | darxmurf | on the web server there is a form everybody can use |
| 06:01.56 | darxmurf | to query the shop server |
| 06:02.09 | darxmurf | but now we have to filter access to this old shop server |
| 06:02.20 | darxmurf | so, we will only allow the WebServer up address |
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| 06:02.50 | darxmurf | ip |
| 06:03.03 | valdyn | darxmurf: that still sounds like redirect |
| 06:03.17 | darxmurf | but when you run a query from the form, it's your computer IP address which arrives on the shop server |
| 06:04.11 | valdyn | darxmurf: you want to restrict shop server access to one ip, the web server? |
| 06:04.18 | darxmurf | yes |
| 06:04.20 | darxmurf | but |
| 06:04.39 | darxmurf | everybody should be able to run queries from the WEB Server |
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| 06:04.54 | darxmurf | from the web page |
| 06:05.54 | Broatcast | on the other side you run php? |
| 06:06.52 | darxmurf | the web server yes, and apparently the shop server is a pretty old machine running a weird system (I don't have access for the moment). The only thing they ca do is to filter by IP |
| 06:07.09 | darxmurf | it's not PHP apparently |
| 06:07.22 | Broatcast | 2 options |
| 06:07.43 | Broatcast | check the ip via super global http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.server.php |
| 06:07.56 | Broatcast | or just use a firewall in front of machine |
| 06:08.02 | Broatcast | like ipfire for example |
| 06:08.20 | Broatcast | 3 option... depends on used webserver just permit the access |
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| 06:08.39 | darxmurf | well, we can filter by IP, it's not the problem. |
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| 06:09.08 | Broatcast | for nginx for example http://nginx.com/resources/admin-guide/restricting-access/ |
| 06:09.26 | darxmurf | the question now is, how to configure the html FORM on the web-server to query the shop server with his IP address and not the client IP |
| 06:10.12 | darxmurf | A bit like to do a CURL with the server IP as REMOTE_ADDR |
| 06:10.58 | darxmurf | huh, it's hard to explain stuff like that in english sometimes :D |
| 06:11.07 | Broatcast | curl is a option |
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| 06:12.31 | darxmurf | but results returned by the shop server is usually a list of articles with links for details |
| 06:13.41 | darxmurf | so, I should CURL, and process the result to CURL other links |
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| 06:19.11 | darxmurf | this system sucks, those guys installed this 100 years ago, never about any evolution and now they NEEEEEED to update it |
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| 06:19.27 | darxmurf | s/never/never thought/ |
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| 06:28.09 | darxmurf | doh, the site is in full HTML with framesets \o/ |
| 06:28.15 | darxmurf | welcome to the 70ties |
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| 06:33.15 | stangeland | darxmurf, which? |
| 06:33.33 | darxmurf | the shit I have to modify |
| 06:33.41 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:33.44 | darxmurf | at work |
| 06:33.57 | darxmurf | an old tool to query a shop server |
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| 06:34.19 | stangeland | darxmurf, better have a look at ncdump version |
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| 07:11.55 | CryptoSiD | Hi, my integrated NIC seems broken so i installed a PCI rtl8169 but debian dont seems to see it, lspci dont list it |
| 07:12.05 | CryptoSiD | any idea how i could get this card to work?! |
| 07:12.47 | CryptoSiD | im on wheezy |
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| 07:14.04 | CryptoSiD | guess i need firmware-realktek package |
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| 07:24.17 | CryptoSiD | firmware-realtek installed, firmware-linux-nonfree, debian wheezy still not detecting my rtl8169 |
| 07:24.39 | CryptoSiD | lspci dont list it |
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| 07:33.30 | GPenguin | put up / boot up |
| 07:33.51 | CryptoSiD | i switched pci port now its working |
| 07:33.59 | GPenguin | ah |
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| 08:52.09 | herol3oy | I have a file in my flash memory its name is "?????" but its inode is 1349 now i'm wonder how can i rename this file to "pix.zip"? |
| 08:54.22 | fraff | herol3oy: I don't known that much about it, but when I see such filename, there is a problem with the filesystem |
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| 08:54.36 | DavidFromBelgium | well I'm upgraded to Jessie (was using Wheezy) and it's fixed |
| 08:55.25 | DavidFromBelgium | could someone tell me what's the best backup option for debian fully installed on a usb key with encrypted lvm ? |
| 08:55.25 | herol3oy | fraff: thanks. but still it's possible to rename files by their inodes! |
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| 08:55.49 | DavidFromBelgium | I want to be able to backup the whole key, from outside |
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| 08:57.34 | jelly | herol3oy: you could use the find command to match just the file with a specific -inum and do something with it using the -exec action |
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| 08:58.13 | jelly | herol3oy: or get a shell that can tab-complete that file name after ./<tab><tab><tab> ... |
| 08:58.16 | herol3oy | jelly: hey! any example? |
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| 08:58.52 | jelly | herol3oy: no, but http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind |
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| 08:59.32 | herol3oy | ok |
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| 09:01.07 | l3archos | hi to all |
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| 09:53.26 | rcue | bahax: Im pretty sure its the ISP, what else could it be? never had these problems before with the other ISP. I got vpn connection to another box, so every now and then I wget the debs there and scp them home. that works without problems, but is a lot of work and hassle since I got a few boxes to take care of. |
| 09:54.13 | bjornar_ | Is it possible to pass kernel command line parameters to rename interfaces in debian-installer? |
| 09:55.06 | bjornar_ | The "problem" I am facing is when booting off pxe, I know mac address of interface I would like to use later on.. but I have no way of knowing the name this interface will eventually get.. |
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| 09:58.47 | bjornar_ | oh, think I might have figured out howto.. |
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| 10:00.44 | fraff | bjornar_: this is udev's job, did you find a workaround ? |
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| 10:10.39 | volter | Hello, I was looking for an elasticsearch-curator package and came across https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/elasticsearch-curator_2.1.2-1.html. |
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| 10:11.01 | beagleburt | MrDetonia, Thankyou for your help the last time we chatted! - (you suggested): "MrDetonia> beagleburt, ok, in a terminal try: <MrDetonia> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background draw-background true <MrDetonia> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.background show-desktop-icons true" It worked perfectly! |
| 10:11.18 | volter | I'm fairly new to Debian, but I could not find it on packages.debian.org. Am I missing something? |
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| 10:13.31 | mjt | volter: it is in the NEW queue, it hasn't been accepted yet |
| 10:14.02 | volter | I see! |
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| 10:15.18 | fireba11 | question: does the current debian installer install grub on all disks of a raid or still only on the first disk? |
| 10:16.10 | volter | mjt: I'm not well acquainted with the Debian packaging process. Is that a situation where somebody, who is not a packager, has submitted something and it's waiting for being picked up by somebody who is? |
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| 10:23.02 | l3archos | hey all, I am using Debian Jessie with Gnome and I addiotionally installed "cinnamon", "mate" and "xfce" to see the differences and play-around. I am not sure if I can easily install "KDE" to check it out, too. Do I need to install "kde-window-manager", "kde-plasma-desktop", "kdm" or what package does it need to run KDE ? And I would like to know if this will interfere with my existing DEs I have currently installed and if I have to expect encounter |
| 10:23.04 | l3archos | ing issues (currently gdm3 is installed, does that need also be changed?) |
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| 10:24.29 | DrOwl | Oh ok it its becouse of the Panell i have/had down the left of my promary display... seems you can not drag a window past a panell! |
| 10:25.01 | SynrGy | !install kde |
| 10:25.02 | dpkg | The 'kde-standard' package gets you the common set-up, 'kde-plasma-desktop' and 'kde-plasma-netbook' provide minimal KDE 4 setups with respective flavouring, and 'kde-full' installs everything KDE 4. To install using Debian-Installer (if not using KDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > KDE > Install". |
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| 10:25.46 | SynrGy | volter: NEW is pending ftp maintainer approval. it has nothing to do with who uploaded it. |
| 10:26.17 | SynrGy | volter: every package which goes into the debian archive must first pass this manual review process before it is accepted. |
| 10:26.42 | l3archos | SynrGy: So I could just execute "apt-get update && apt-get install kde-standard" and I won't expect any issues or interferences with the currently installed gdm3 and my mentioned installed DEs ? |
| 10:26.58 | volter | SynrGy: Thanks! |
| 10:27.11 | SynrGy | l3archos: that's my understanding |
| 10:27.23 | l3archos | ok, I will give a try. |
| 10:28.12 | l3archos | SynrGy: Please tell me. When I checked KDE and won't like it, can I just do a "apt-get purge kde-standard && apt-get autoremove && apt-get autoclean" so I am free of all KDE-related stuff ? |
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| 10:28.36 | SynrGy | volter: there should be an associated ITP bug filed against http://bugs.debian.org/wnpp for the package, and there may be further details about the status of the package against that. |
| 10:28.45 | SynrGy | i did not check |
| 10:28.55 | petn-randall | l3archos: Yes. |
| 10:29.06 | l3archos | fine, thank you |
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| 10:29.17 | SynrGy | l3archos: maybe. i've found sometimes residual things leftover that autoremove doesn't touch |
| 10:29.28 | SynrGy | not in that particular scenario, but in others like it |
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| 10:29.51 | SynrGy | but in theory, that's how it works |
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| 10:29.53 | mjt | volter: the bug SynrGy mentioned is referenced from that page, see the "Closes:" section in the control file |
| 10:30.11 | SynrGy | ah, yes |
| 10:30.19 | mjt | volter: er, in changes file, not control (typo) |
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| 10:31.04 | petn-randall | l3archos: The desktop environments are packaged in a way that you can install several of them in parallel. |
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| 10:31.12 | mjt | volter: but there's nothing interesting in there anyway :) |
| 10:31.24 | SynrGy | and no, there aren't any more details there. oh well. but clearing NEW queue can take varying lengths of time |
| 10:31.36 | SynrGy | depending on how busy the ftp maintainer team is & complexity of package. |
| 10:31.54 | SynrGy | somewhere there are stats about NEW queue processing load |
| 10:31.56 | mjt | usually it is less than 2 months :) |
| 10:32.00 | SynrGy | yeah :p |
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| 10:32.28 | SynrGy | !new |
| 10:32.28 | dpkg | methinks new is the NEW queue for Debian packages, part of the <incoming> system, at http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html . Packages that are in the NEW queue cannot be downloaded, because they have not yet been checked to see if they are allowed to be distributed by the Debian project. http://wiki.debian.org/NewQueue |
| 10:32.46 | SynrGy | maybe more about that there? again, can't be arsed to check :) |
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| 10:55.56 | bjornar_ | fraff: yeah, I place a udev rules file into the initrd |
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| 10:56.56 | bjornar_ | fraff, would anyway be nice to beeing able to specify netcfg/interface 00:25:... |
| 10:57.04 | bjornar_ | ..but it works |
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| 10:58.46 | fraff | bjornar_: thanks for the feedback |
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| 11:09.53 | koalax | i am trying to test iptables, so i would like to be able to see what packets are coming through and what is not. using wireshark it shows the packets received in the interface, is there some way i can see the packets received at the user space? |
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| 11:10.41 | koalax | seeing what packets are not coming through isn't that important, but packets that are allowed through the iptables are the ones i really want to investigate |
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| 11:15.54 | talin | hello. i want to add a dir to my PATH. how can i do that? |
| 11:16.00 | talin | preferrably without having to reboot |
| 11:16.38 | bjornar_ | export PATH=$PATH:/additional/path |
| 11:16.53 | talin | bjornar_: is there a way to make it permanent? |
| 11:17.05 | bjornar_ | put it in bashrc or whatever |
| 11:17.28 | SweetyDumling | is Debian 6.0.6 considered particularly ancient by now, or still more or less production-grade? |
| 11:17.37 | SynrG | or the other way around. depends on whether you want things in it to take precedence over things later in the PATH |
| 11:18.05 | SynrG | SweetyDumling: with LTS now, that's not mutually exclusive |
| 11:18.08 | SynrG | !lts |
| 11:18.08 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
| 11:18.33 | SynrG | i understand some people for whatever reason cannot get off it. LTS serves their needs. |
| 11:19.18 | SynrG | otherwise yes, it's generally considered ancient. upgrading is a good idea if you can. |
| 11:19.33 | SweetyDumling | to? |
| 11:19.45 | SynrG | keep in mind the 25th is the release of jessie. i would say you are fine to wait ... |
| 11:20.00 | SynrG | you could do squeeze -> wheezy, and then wheezy -> jessie |
| 11:20.11 | SweetyDumling | and is it still the case tha ISS uses 6.0.6? |
| 11:20.12 | SynrG | (you must not skip releases when you upgrade) |
| 11:20.30 | SynrG | ISS is a special case, as i'm sure they extensively modify it to their needs. |
| 11:20.48 | SynrG | any sufficiently large organization has the resources to keep even ancient stuff running for their own purposes. |
| 11:21.22 | SweetyDumling | yes. I was just wondering if my perception that ISS chose to park itself on 6.0.6 as a point of departure is accurate. |
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| 11:24.30 | SynrG | SweetyDumling: i have no special knowledge of that. i'm sure it's possible to find on the web ... |
| 11:24.31 | ToTheInternet | I have a broken package that i can't remove, neither apt-get purge nor dpkg --remove work, it says the pre-removal script returned error 102. How can i get rid of the package? |
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| 11:24.49 | SweetyDumling | SynrG dpkg thank you both |
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| 11:25.25 | SynrG | ToTheInternet: add set -x to the prerm script, find out what line it's dying on and correct or workaround the failure |
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| 11:25.50 | SynrG | ToTheInternet: is this a debian package? |
| 11:26.03 | SynrG | i mean, from the official debian archive |
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| 11:26.26 | SynrG | SweetyDumling: dpkg is a bot |
| 11:26.55 | SweetyDumling | thang bots when they do good. ;) |
| 11:26.56 | SynrG | responding to my command to show you the lts factoid (but if you want to ask it things for your own info, /msg dpkg) |
| 11:27.11 | SynrG | whatever floats your boat :) |
| 11:27.23 | SweetyDumling | whatever flaots your bot, too. |
| 11:27.29 | SynrG | groan |
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| 11:27.39 | SynrG | too early in the morning for puns |
| 11:28.33 | talin | what do you guys have in LD_LIBRARY_PATH by default? |
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| 11:29.36 | ToTheInternet | SynrG: i'm afraid its not. it is a package called mongodb-10gen. i followed the installation instructions for an application using mongodb that consisted of adding a ppa source to apt and installing this package |
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| 11:29.59 | ToTheInternet | SynrG: so now i have a frankendebian, and the package doesn't even work |
| 11:30.23 | bjornar_ | How can I install packages in debian-installer, not on target, but packages I need to configure system, for example ipmitool or sgdisk |
| 11:31.34 | ToTheInternet | SynrG: how can i find out what the file name of the prerm script? the error message doesn't say |
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| 11:33.37 | mms_ | I am using LVM and need to shrink /home partition which is mounted |
| 11:33.50 | mms_ | says in use |
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| 11:35.32 | MadMan2021 | mms_: You can't shrink a file system to my knowledge if it's mounted, You'd be best using a live cd. |
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| 11:35.53 | mms_ | ok |
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| 11:36.52 | MadMan2021 | mms_: If you need a live CD I think Knoppix has LVM support |
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| 11:37.14 | mms_ | I am seeing debian-live iso |
| 11:37.17 | ToTheInternet | SynrG: i was able to fix it by adjusting the prerm script, thanks for your help |
| 11:37.22 | mms_ | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.8.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso |
| 11:37.28 | mms_ | I guess i can use that |
| 11:37.33 | MadMan2021 | mms_: That's fine will do the job. |
| 11:37.45 | mms_ | huge it is |
| 11:37.49 | mms_ | 1.2 GB |
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| 11:38.08 | Skyrider | Ello all. |
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| 11:38.45 | Skyrider | I'm wondering if someone could assist me. I'm having multiple domains, and 1 VPS server. Thus far, I have 1 hostname. Is it possible I can use multiple host names aiming towards multiple ip's/domains on the same vps? |
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| 11:39.05 | mms_ | [ ] debian-live-7.8.0-amd64-standard.iso 2015-01-14 04:33 461M is smaller |
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| 11:39.11 | mms_ | it will not have gui ? |
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| 11:39.50 | mms_ | as long as I can run the lvm gui and resize I can use any |
| 11:39.54 | mms_ | smaller better |
| 11:40.30 | bjornar_ | Is anna-install installing to memory or target? Harly documented.. |
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| 11:41.38 | Skyrider | and can a hostname be an IP address? |
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| 11:43.12 | teraflop | Skyrider: you do that by configuring the DNS properly |
| 11:43.42 | Skyrider | The reason why I ask is because the mails I send out, is using my hostname. |
| 11:44.05 | Skyrider | eg.. vps.xxx.com |
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| 11:44.42 | Skyrider | For each domain I have, I want the mail to use that hostname. mail1 -> vps.mail1.com : mail2 -> vps.mail2.com |
| 11:45.04 | Skyrider | I'm still learning ^^. |
| 11:45.06 | MadMan2021 | Skyrider: What's sending the mail postifx ? |
| 11:45.55 | Skyrider | postfix/devocot. |
| 11:46.01 | Skyrider | **dovecot. |
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| 11:46.57 | MadMan2021 | Have alook in the postfix configuration file for myhostname. |
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| 11:47.17 | MadMan2021 | I think that may help you out, Mail is not my strong point but I'm sure someone will correct me. |
| 11:47.28 | Skyrider | Wouldnt that be global though? |
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| 11:47.50 | teraflop | Skyrider: i do not know what email system youre using if you want per domain email system you need virtual domains email setup (again: DNS) |
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| 11:48.21 | Skyrider | My emails are working fine though. It's just that the source of the email is using my hostname. |
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| 11:48.46 | Skyrider | eg: Received: from vps.xxx.com ([31.x.25.x]) |
| 11:49.41 | Skyrider | will DNS help out with that? |
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| 11:50.39 | teraflop | yes or just fix your SMTP server configuration |
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| 11:51.25 | Skyrider | using ispconfig atm |
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| 11:52.26 | teraflop | I do not know what that ispconfig is sorry |
| 11:52.32 | Skyrider | control panel :p |
| 11:53.10 | teraflop | hmmm I can't help you with that ... |
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| 11:53.50 | MadMan2021 | Wouldn't you always expect the From field to be the same for all the domains since there only is 1 mail server.? |
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| 11:54.11 | Skyrider | ? |
| 11:54.28 | teraflop | MadMan2021: nope |
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| 11:55.31 | teraflop | you can manage a bunch of domain names from a single mail server |
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| 11:56.26 | MadMan2021 | teraflop: I'm guessing using SRV records for reverse DNS ? |
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| 11:57.26 | MadMan2021 | Etherway I'm going off subject apologies. |
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| 11:59.38 | mms_ | I installed standroid live cd of debain it boots into console |
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| 11:59.54 | mms_ | now how do I resize my disk ? I am in vbox |
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| 12:00.52 | MadMan2021 | mms_: Check the filesystem first with e2fsck. Then Rezise2fs then lvreduce. then vgreduce. |
| 12:00.55 | mms_ | can I use live cd for resizing my vbox vdi ? |
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| 12:01.11 | MadMan2021 | mms_: Do some more research on the commands before you run them, My memory is sometimes bad ;) |
| 12:01.22 | mms_ | MadMan2021: how do I first see my vdi ? |
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| 12:01.52 | MadMan2021 | mms_: Have you mounted the Debian Live CD to the virtual machine and booted it ? |
| 12:01.58 | mms_ | MadMan2021: yes |
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| 12:02.15 | mms_ | I used standard flavor as gnome was huge |
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| 12:02.33 | mms_ | so i am on console |
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| 12:03.42 | MadMan2021 | mms_: Do you know how to find and mount a harddrive ? |
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| 12:05.12 | mms_ | yes |
| 12:05.31 | mms_ | the /dev has the devices |
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| 12:05.35 | mms_ | and you can mount them |
| 12:05.56 | mms_ | but I do not see parted etc. |
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| 12:06.36 | mms_ | I see sda, sda1, sda5 |
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| 12:07.41 | mms_ | so what should I mount .... |
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| 12:08.34 | MadMan2021 | mms_: "fdisk -l"] |
| 12:08.44 | MadMan2021 | mms_: "fdisk -l" |
| 12:08.47 | mms_ | there is no fdisk |
| 12:09.18 | mms_ | I downloaded debian-live-7.8.0-amd64-standard.iso |
| 12:09.23 | mms_ | and there is no fdisk command |
| 12:09.38 | MadMan2021 | try as room mms_? |
| 12:09.42 | MadMan2021 | root* |
| 12:09.54 | mms_ | what ? |
| 12:09.58 | mms_ | I am in livecd |
| 12:10.13 | MadMan2021 | Try "sudo fdisk -l" |
| 12:10.24 | MadMan2021 | Sorry if I am incorrect. |
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| 12:11.34 | mms_ | ok I see three now |
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| 12:12.56 | mms_ | MadMan2021: so now how to shrink them |
| 12:13.08 | mms_ | actually I was using lvm and need to shring home and assing to / |
| 12:13.23 | mms_ | I do not know which one is using what |
| 12:14.56 | MadMan2021 | mms_: I think you can use pvscan |
| 12:15.03 | mms_ | ok |
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| 12:15.53 | mms_ | looks like its not found |
| 12:15.55 | mms_ | pvscan |
| 12:15.59 | mms_ | sudo pvscan |
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| 12:16.09 | mms_ | standard one seems not have it ? |
| 12:16.40 | MadMan2021 | mms_: You'll need to install them from the repo. |
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| 12:17.08 | mms_ | commadn / |
| 12:17.10 | mms_ | ? |
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| 12:17.43 | mms_ | lvm2 ? |
| 12:17.44 | MadMan2021 | mms_: I don't know from the top of my head, probably "apt-get install lvm2" |
| 12:17.47 | mms_ | ok |
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| 12:18.58 | mms_ | seems its not having internet connectivity |
| 12:19.18 | mms_ | live cd booted but w/o connectivty in vbox |
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| 12:20.30 | rgr | you do know the difference between a device and a partition I hope? |
| 12:21.32 | rgr | because if you dont and you know even know if you've got LVM installed I suggest you take a break and go do some learning before you drive yourself insane. |
| 12:21.42 | rgr | "Don't even know" |
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| 12:22.00 | MadMan2021 | rgr: Was just typing the same, beat me to it. |
| 12:22.46 | mms_ | we do not have connectivity seems in live cd booted into vbox |
| 12:23.14 | MadMan2021 | mms_: Not to be rude but follow rgr's advice read up about LVM untill it hurts, LVM can be quite confusing. Regarding the network setup I don't know if debian supports VBox's adapter without manuel setup. |
| 12:24.40 | mms_ | debian supports w/o manual setup via vbox but probably live cd standard one does not |
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| 12:25.34 | mms_ | I am better off reinstalling |
| 12:25.37 | mms_ | its easier |
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| 12:26.01 | MadMan2021 | mms_: Untill you understand LVM i'd probably reccomend staying away from it. |
| 12:27.28 | MadMan2021 | recommend* . Wow I don't even english today.. -_- |
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| 12:32.14 | Skyrider | Anyone happens to have an URL (tutorial) how to create my own nameservers, etc? |
| 12:32.41 | Skyrider | I wish to pinpoint my domains hosted somewhere else (domain only) to my own NS1.myowndomain.com |
| 12:32.48 | Skyrider | But I need to create those ns1/ns2 first. |
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| 13:00.00 | cullzcullzetc | Does multiarch mean the system has twice the amount of packages ? |
| 13:01.13 | petn-randall | cullzcullzetc: Only if you install them. |
| 13:01.39 | petn-randall | cullzcullzetc: multiarch only means that you /can/ install a foreign architecture next to your native one, without collisions. |
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| 13:03.02 | mjt | not twice but as many times as you want :) |
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| 13:03.21 | mjt | (twice would be BIarch) |
| 13:03.33 | cullzcullzetc | heh |
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| 13:07.07 | bababooo | Hi, is there in debian a decent software that reads text to a blind person? |
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| 13:10.17 | bazhang | ,v festival |
| 13:10.18 | judd | Package: festival on i386 -- squeeze: 1:2.0.95~beta-5.1; wheezy: 1:2.1~release-5.1; jessie: 1:2.1~release-8; sid: 1:2.1~release-8 |
| 13:10.32 | bazhang | or is that the reverse |
| 13:10.36 | abrotman | bababooo: apt-cache search screen reader |
| 13:10.58 | bazhang | was it orca? |
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| 13:15.05 | jelly | we have at least one regular user here that's blind I think |
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| 13:15.26 | LaPingvino | hello :) |
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| 13:15.48 | LaPingvino | anybody here with experience with usd, webcams/diascanners and drivers? |
| 13:16.03 | LaPingvino | I have a reflecta xscan diascanner |
| 13:16.17 | LaPingvino | and I found out that it should usually be recognised as a webcam |
| 13:16.27 | LaPingvino | internally it's called USB Camera |
| 13:16.54 | LaPingvino | but as far as I found out now with udevadm it uses the driver 'usb', while I think it should work with 'ov511' |
| 13:16.59 | LaPingvino | any way to force this? |
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| 13:21.30 | Alex-Mes | 3V FREE STEAM GAMES http://tinyurl.com/ptv3gfv |
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| 13:39.43 | LaPingvino | hey... is ov511 gone from Debian Jessie/Sid? |
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| 13:41.02 | Ooze | jelly, it kind of smells like campfire down by the server right now... |
| 13:41.09 | Ooze | It's not like a dirty burn, but you can smell something |
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| 13:43.05 | jelly | dpkg: flw72 is <reply><Ooze> jelly, it kind of smells like campfire down by the server right now... <Ooze> It's not like a dirty burn, but you can smell something |
| 13:43.05 | dpkg | jelly: okay |
| 13:43.28 | fireba11 | ^^! |
| 13:43.29 | Ooze | wot |
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| 13:44.23 | jelly | Ooze: there's a quote database of "famous last words" |
| 13:44.28 | jelly | !flw0 |
| 13:44.28 | dpkg | <spldart> been overclocking for years <pipeline> spldart: You've probably been an idiot since birth. The length of time involved isn't really the point. <spldart> this machine is 24/7 overclock for 3 years |
| 13:44.37 | Ooze | Oh God |
| 13:45.03 | Ooze | I'm going to take it out today and see if all the fans are working |
| 13:45.35 | jelly | you'd see something in ilo or iml if a fan failed I think |
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| 13:46.12 | Ooze | I think pretty much all it says is power removed, power restored |
| 13:46.22 | Ooze | But when the machine reboots, it doesn't go off completely |
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| 13:46.27 | Ooze | It's like a reboot, not a cold shutdown then back on |
| 13:46.37 | jelly | if you were here I'd give you half a dozen of those G3 proliants if you signed you'd take them |
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| 13:46.40 | Ooze | So I'd think if it were overheating or PSU problem it'd be shutting down |
| 13:46.53 | jelly | could be power caps |
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| 13:47.13 | Ooze | Yeah I bought one from a bunch of them on craigslist, might call the guy up again and see if I can get a different one |
| 13:47.22 | Ooze | If I want to deal w/ this all over again.... |
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| 13:48.25 | fireba11 | hehe .. we tried to upgrade a nameserver once, then noticed all 7 fans of the 1U case were stuck and the hard dics were really hot. we left it to cool down and then noticed the dics didn't spin up any more :-D (tr was running fine before) |
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| 13:49.58 | elcheckito | i want to restart tomcat when it crashes, using the debian service. what's the best approach? |
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| 13:51.16 | fireba11 | elcheckito: use monit |
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| 13:52.00 | fireba11 | elcheckito: make sure the init-d script writes a pid in /var/run have monit check for the pid if the process is running and restart it if not |
| 13:52.01 | nami | hi, can you upgrade wheezy to jessie from a ssh session? |
| 13:52.06 | petn-randall | elcheckito: condition #0 for a daemon is to run 24/7. If it crashes often enough for you thinking about automating a restart, you should fix the problem first. |
| 13:52.14 | petn-randall | nami: Sure. |
| 13:52.15 | fireba11 | elcheckito: you'll get a nice log where you can see if it had to restart it |
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| 13:52.28 | nami | i was going to use tmux but that is not helping: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/bdf3c7a3/ |
| 13:52.41 | fireba11 | petn-randall: true but we have a jboss that crashes about once every 3 months so ... :-D |
| 13:53.24 | petn-randall | nami: Not sure if you can use screen instead. |
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| 13:54.08 | petn-randall | nami: I know that if you use plain ssh, it'll keep the connection open even on upgrade. |
| 13:54.37 | petn-randall | nami: So one way would be to either use 'screen', or exclude tmux from upgrade and then do that separately without tmux. |
| 13:54.49 | petn-randall | (not sure if that's possible) |
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| 14:01.05 | fraff | elcheckito: I would use "monit" that monitor and alert/restart service |
| 14:01.46 | darxmurf | folks, time to start the long week-end ! |
| 14:01.47 | darxmurf | cheers ! |
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| 14:15.08 | elcheckito | is monit a standard on debian? (vs daemontools, runit, a respawned script in inittab, etc..) i'd like to use something that's Debian Policy -level |
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| 14:19.27 | elcheckito | does the jessie to wheezy (yes, the downgrade) work well? i have a controller that only works with testing installer and i am thinking about using testing, then downgrading and using a backports kernel? |
| 14:19.39 | mtn | !downgrade |
| 14:19.41 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 14:19.53 | elcheckito | by the way, i did not get an answer about "what's the most debian-like way of keeping a service up (by restarting it if needed)" |
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| 14:20.50 | elcheckito | dpkg: but testing does not get as many security updates as stable, right? i can't stay on testing in production if i needed it only to install and see the storage controller.. |
| 14:20.50 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, elcheckito |
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| 14:21.11 | mtn | elcheckito: dpkg is a bot |
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| 14:21.46 | elcheckito | >:] |
| 14:21.51 | mtn | elcheckito: did you know that jessie is likely to become stable this month? perhaps waiting a bit would help, or go with jessie now. |
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| 14:24.19 | pqangel | Hello :) I'm having some trouble configuring certificates for cyrus, when i try to start the server it says "invalid option" for tls_server_cert /etc/ssl/certs/certificate.crt |
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| 14:29.42 | l3archos | does Super-key (the windows key left to the space bar) not work in Cinnamon so I can use this key to get a list of all available programs? I can press ALT-F2 though to execute a certain command, but I am looking for the way to start programs |
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| 14:40.37 | LaPingvino | so... anyone know more about ov511 support in the current kernels? |
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| 14:46.05 | shay_shay | l3archos: it opens the menu doesn't it? |
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| 14:46.27 | shay_shay | But typing after it opens has no effect? |
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| 14:49.14 | shay_shay | elcheckito: yes and systems has the functionality of monit or daemontools built in |
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| 14:54.36 | adilix | hi all |
| 14:55.08 | adilix | is there any package available for noip duc program? cant find anything |
| 14:55.30 | adilix | i have found only this http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/linux_beginner_books/debian_linux_desktop_survival_guide/No_IP.shtml |
| 14:55.35 | adilix | is this the right way? |
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| 14:58.03 | sydney_untangle | *Is there a official non-free debian cd for laptop installs, etc? |
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| 14:58.23 | sydney_untangle | to have the wifi drivers without needing ethernet... |
| 14:58.30 | mtn | sydney_untangle: yes. http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware |
| 14:58.55 | mtn | sydney_untangle: official, unofficial, anyway |
| 14:59.43 | sydney_untangle | yay! |
| 14:59.49 | sydney_untangle | is happy. :P |
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| 15:00.20 | sydney_untangle | So, is jessie goign to have a RC3? |
| 15:01.32 | sydney_untangle | Only net insta// |
| 15:01.38 | sydney_untangle | l.* |
| 15:01.40 | mtn | sydney_untangle: aiming at a late april release |
| 15:02.38 | sydney_untangle | Cool. |
| 15:02.52 | sydney_untangle | Only net install? |
| 15:02.59 | sydney_untangle | for jessie? |
| 15:03.11 | mtn | sydney_untangle: all kinds of installs, just like wheezy |
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| 15:03.31 | PalyaPix | Hey... does docker.io removed from debian 8 |
| 15:03.32 | sydney_untangle | In the non-free firmware section. |
| 15:03.48 | sydney_untangle | im not seeing any jessie RCs with a GUI. |
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| 15:03.56 | sydney_untangle | by defualt. |
| 15:04.18 | PalyaPix | I have jessie repositories on my sources.list, and it does not find docker.io package |
| 15:04.27 | PalyaPix | have main and contrib |
| 15:04.32 | mtn | sydney_untangle: oh, don't know about that, but netinstall is very good. won't it work for you? |
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| 15:04.37 | PalyaPix | i dont think it is on the nonfree repos |
| 15:04.46 | sydney_untangle | mtn: Not on this internet,,, |
| 15:05.02 | mtn | sydney_untangle: the installer is the same for all versions anyway. |
| 15:05.04 | sydney_untangle | it would take me like 3 hours. |
| 15:05.07 | sydney_untangle | Yes. |
| 15:05.24 | sydney_untangle | I prefer to download ISOs overnight and install quickly. ;P |
| 15:05.35 | sydney_untangle | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/jessie_di_rc2/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 15:06.35 | sydney_untangle | Could do wheezy, but i really am reluctant on that. |
| 15:07.14 | sydney_untangle | ;( |
| 15:07.23 | sydney_untangle | Ok,. another option. |
| 15:07.53 | sydney_untangle | Can i download the drivers on my another computer and install them manually> |
| 15:07.54 | sydney_untangle | ? |
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| 15:08.20 | sydney_untangle | i could also do teathering with my laptop. |
| 15:08.22 | mtn | sydney_untangle: yes, there are instructions for that in the installer instructions, I believe |
| 15:08.46 | mtn | sydney_untangle: I think in here somewhere: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 15:09.57 | sydney_untangle | Ok, well i will do some looking. |
| 15:10.10 | sydney_untangle | I really don't want to use ubuntu or fedora. |
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| 15:12.27 | sydney_untangle | maybe debian already has this driver in normal repos... |
| 15:12.34 | sydney_untangle | I guess i wait till i get it. |
| 15:12.43 | mtn | sydney_untangle: take a look at the wiki to find out |
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| 15:15.49 | snooops | hi guys - if i would like to assign eth1 my external ip address and eth0 my internal ip address - it wont work - why? :D |
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| 15:19.25 | cmtptr | what does that mean? |
| 15:19.30 | cmtptr | what does all of that mean? |
| 15:20.00 | MadMan2021 | My brain hurts. |
| 15:20.08 | cmtptr | what is an "external ip" and an "internal ip," and what does "it won't work" mean? |
| 15:20.10 | qwerkus | Hello. I'm trying to setup a nas via ssh, and keep getting perl error message "Setting locale failed." How do I fix this ? |
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| 15:21.01 | fraff | qwerkus: apt-get install locales && dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 15:21.58 | qwerkus | I did that. Than wiki debian advises choosing "none" which isn't listed in the config menu :( |
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| 15:23.37 | Goodbar | Folks, I'm having a serious problem with chroot and trying to unmount /proc after I'm done with the chroot. May I have your attention? |
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| 15:24.16 | Goodbar | Will ask in #ubuntu as well as I am using ubuntu. |
| 15:24.21 | fraff | qwerkus: have you generated few locales at least ? |
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| 15:26.03 | qwerkus | http://paste.debian.net/164504/ |
| 15:26.14 | qwerkus | I have no idea where the de_DE comes from |
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| 15:27.34 | jhutchins | qwerkus: That would be deutsch_DEUTSCHLAND |
| 15:27.58 | fraff | qwerkus: dpkg-reconfigure locales and check de_DE* |
| 15:28.11 | qwerkus | <jhutchins> of course. But I have no idea why locales are set to de |
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| 15:29.50 | petn-randall | !tell Goodbar -about crosspost |
| 15:30.03 | petn-randall | !tell Goodbar -about ubuntu |
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| 15:31.20 | qwerkus | fraff: thank you. Some progress here, but still error messages: http://paste.debian.net/164506/ |
| 15:31.35 | MadMan2021 | I see where this is heading now.. |
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| 15:55.23 | ^7heo | hey guys |
| 15:55.33 | ^7heo | is #Dash a channel dedicated to trolling dash? |
| 15:55.56 | ^7heo | 'cause the topic there says: sudo bash -c 'rm /bin/{,da}sh && ln -s /bin/{ba,}sh' |
| 15:56.30 | ^7heo | anyhow, my real question is: I have /proc/self/fd/0 -> pipe:[33365] on a non-interactive ssh session. |
| 15:56.48 | ^7heo | In this session, I do output redirection. How do I redirect back to pipe:[33365] ? |
| 15:56.53 | cmtptr | ^7heo, never been there but it is worth noting that yesterday was april fools |
| 15:57.03 | ^7heo | cmtptr: yeah, right :) |
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| 15:58.58 | realeyes | hello |
| 15:59.04 | realeyes | so where is the grub configs? |
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| 15:59.16 | realeyes | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:59.16 | ^7heo | realeyes: /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 15:59.21 | ^7heo | realeyes: also, #grub |
| 15:59.22 | realeyes | ah k |
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| 15:59.57 | ^7heo | anyhow, does anyone have ANY clue about my pipe question? |
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| 16:00.18 | ^7heo | I've never seen that pipe:[0-9+] anywhere |
| 16:00.23 | realeyes | what is your pip question? |
| 16:00.32 | ^7heo | realeyes: check the log ;) |
| 16:00.36 | realeyes | [0-9+] is bash |
| 16:00.43 | ^7heo | v_v |
| 16:00.49 | ^7heo | that does make any sense. |
| 16:01.19 | realeyes | whats the question lol |
| 16:01.27 | realeyes | how do you redirect back to a certain shell? |
| 16:01.31 | ^7heo | but actually I wrote it wrong. "I've never seen that pipe:\[[0-9+]\] anywhere" was the correct version. |
| 16:01.33 | realeyes | p sure its like a tty thing |
| 16:01.45 | realeyes | just ask the question again lol |
| 16:02.09 | ^7heo | realeyes: since you obviously can't scroll up; I have /proc/self/fd/0 -> pipe:[33365] on a non-interactive ssh session. In this session, I do output redirection. How do I redirect back to pipe:[33365] ? |
| 16:02.15 | ^7heo | also, "lol". |
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| 16:08.59 | SAKUJ0 | ¨Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code.¨ on jessie. it is not the worst of problems, i could cron job this to avoid issues |
| 16:09.05 | SAKUJ0 | how would i go to fix it? |
| 16:09.12 | SAKUJ0 | usually the SAKUJ0 way involved trying a different version |
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| 16:09.23 | SAKUJ0 | but usually the non-SAKUJ0 way is recommended |
| 16:09.31 | SAKUJ0 | darn |
| 16:09.33 | SAKUJ0 | wrong paste :p |
| 16:09.35 | SAKUJ0 | i feel dumb sec |
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| 16:10.02 | SAKUJ0 | Apr 02 16:48:05 HairyDemon mono[1785]: Got a SIGSEGV while executing native code. http://pastebin.com/UPvCkSBJ |
| 16:11.33 | SAKUJ0 | and i am not asking here if anyone can do the googling for me. just if i should try backporting/compiling mono - or if i should try to debug it manually (it is hard as i cannot replicate it and have to wait 10-20 hours for a crash every time) |
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| 16:12.25 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: this is the version of mono from jessie and the jessie libc6 packages? |
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| 16:12.49 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: care to paste the output of apt-cache policy, apt-cache policy libc6, and apt-cache policy mono (or what ever the main mono package is called, not sure on tha tmyself) |
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| 16:13.23 | somiaj | also use paste.debian.net (not adds or captuas) |
| 16:13.52 | SAKUJ0 | yes somiaj |
| 16:13.55 | SAKUJ0 | second |
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| 16:14.09 | realeyes | so in /boot/grub/grub.cfg it has the UUID's listed ... I dont want to use UUID though, I want to use /dev/sdX ... Where do I change that? I already edited /etc/default/grub and ran update-grub |
| 16:14.58 | realeyes | can i just edit " linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 root= "??? |
| 16:14.58 | somiaj | realeyes: if there isn't an option in /etc/default/grub to force the use of devices of uuids then you may have to edit or write you own custom scripts in /etc/grub.d/ |
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| 16:15.17 | realeyes | so i need to edit /etc/grub.d/10_linux directly |
| 16:15.25 | somiaj | realeyes: if you edit the grub.cfg directally it will get changed the next time update-grub is run (which happens whenever a new kernel is installed) |
| 16:16.08 | realeyes | lets assume a new kernel is never installed |
| 16:16.13 | somiaj | realeyes: did you uncomment the #GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true in /etc/default/grub, that should be the way to do it. If that isn't working I'd call that a bug. |
| 16:16.19 | realeyes | would editing grub.cfg be fine in that case? |
| 16:16.25 | somiaj | realeyes: then you are assuming things that most likely won't happen if y ou get security updates. |
| 16:16.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | with debian, that's a surprisingly safe assumption. |
| 16:16.28 | realeyes | somiaj: i did do that |
| 16:16.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | *rimshot* |
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| 16:16.55 | somiaj | realeyes: then use the correct option in /etc/default/grub, I have a line like that commented out, just uncomment it and it should disable the use if UUIDs |
| 16:17.25 | realeyes | i have GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true uncommented |
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| 16:17.53 | realeyes | it worked |
| 16:18.02 | realeyes | just wasnt looking at the right thing ;) |
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| 16:18.34 | realeyes | can i run update-grub on /dev/sdb? |
| 16:18.42 | realeyes | thats really what im trying to do |
| 16:18.58 | somiaj | realeyes: no you just run update-grub, all that does is regenreate the grub.cfg config file |
| 16:19.25 | somiaj | realeyes: as long as you don't need to grub-install on some other device you shodult'n have to do anything. |
| 16:19.39 | realeyes | somiaj: thats what i need to do lol |
| 16:19.48 | realeyes | "grub-install --recheck --root-directory=/backup /dev/sdb" |
| 16:19.55 | realeyes | that works and gives no errors |
| 16:20.02 | somiaj | NoImNotNineVolt: that assumption would be false. Debian kernels are regurally updated either due to security issues, or at point releases some new hardware drivers (usually ethernet) are backported into the debian kernels. |
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| 16:20.17 | realeyes | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:20.36 | SAKUJ0 | ok first i have no package mono, i policied mono-runtime and grepping anything that contains mono that i have installed |
| 16:20.46 | somiaj | realeyes: you don't want to do that, you want to make sure your system is configured correct to generate grub.cfg correctly. |
| 16:20.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | somiaj: lighten up francis, it was a joke. |
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| 16:22.27 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: well I'm not finding any bugs releated to your issue. You can file a bugreport. Key thing is make sure it is reproducable and not an issue with your system. I'm unsure how to properly debug mono myself. |
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| 16:23.23 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: if you are mixing versions or software from outside of debian, the best thing to do is create a VM or chroot and see if you can reproduce the bug in a clean jessie envorment before submitting, then describe how to reproduce it. |
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| 16:26.36 | SAKUJ0 | sorry it took some time i did not know how to copy paste using git bash from work :p |
| 16:26.39 | SAKUJ0 | http://paste.debian.net/164513/ |
| 16:27.07 | somiaj | !pastebinit |
| 16:27.08 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 16:27.44 | SAKUJ0 | containing policy, policy libc6, policy mono-runtime and aptitude search mono | grep "i A" |
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| 16:28.05 | SAKUJ0 | oh yeah... pastebinit. the non-SAKUJ0 way :p |
| 16:28.08 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: okay your issue is not supported here. You are using a third party package from apt.sonarr.tv so I would ask them to debug/support your issue. Second you are mixxing ubuntu ppa's with debian, this can and will break your system. |
| 16:28.25 | SAKUJ0 | somiaj, i only use the ppa to build-dep |
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| 16:28.44 | SAKUJ0 | i believe |
| 16:28.47 | SAKUJ0 | sec |
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| 16:29.00 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: I didn't see that it was a 'deb-src' line in your output, but didnt' look that closely. |
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| 16:29.21 | SAKUJ0 | i think i have sonarr manually installed sec |
| 16:29.58 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: note ubuntu is quite different than debian, so sometimes their build debian/ directories may not work well with buidling on debian. But as long as you are only grabing source you 'should' be okay, just don't grab binaries |
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| 16:30.18 | SAKUJ0 | i was wrong, i am using the sonarr repo |
| 16:30.20 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: look at the last apt-cache policy line, you clearly have mon-runtime installed from a non-debian source. Thus that is probabaly the issue. |
| 16:30.43 | realeyes | somiaj: well it worked first try ;) |
| 16:31.11 | somiaj | realeyes: I figured it would once we identified the solutino (: |
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| 16:32.07 | somiaj | SAKUJ0: in general #debian does not support mixing version of debian or mixing third party sources, and for obvious reason don't support the third party sources. Hopefully you can figure out your issue. |
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| 16:33.30 | SAKUJ0 | thankfully it is no reason to wipe any installation, it just crashes once every like 15 hours |
| 16:33.41 | SAKUJ0 | so i suppose the non-SAKUJ0 way will be of help again |
| 16:33.49 | SAKUJ0 | a cron job that checks for the crash and restarts it |
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| 16:34.57 | SAKUJ0 | more so, i've learned about policy |
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| 16:39.12 | SAKUJ0 | it is handy but with so many different OS somebody like me keeps forgetting the useful commands :> |
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| 17:07.40 | Ooze | jelly, turns out the server isn't burning, it's just the rain smell from the chimney |
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| 17:07.54 | Ooze | Stillllll reboots though :( |
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| 17:08.50 | The_Ringmaster | hello |
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| 17:09.14 | The_Ringmaster | what is the easiest way to install debian as a citrix xenapp client |
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| 17:24.09 | parabool | hi |
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| 17:25.24 | parabool | has anyone used Dell XPS 13 DE back in 2013 ? It was released with Ubuntu pre-installed. The new version is out somewhere in April, again with Ubuntu. I'm on Debian, not Ubuntu. Any indications it will work as flawlessly on Debian? |
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| 17:28.31 | mtn | parabool: I always research the wireless and video components to see how compatible they are. the debian wiki is quite useful |
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| 17:54.17 | Skyrider | is there a way to easily set up mail accounts on my VPS without adding 'users'? eg, user/groups. |
| 17:54.24 | Skyrider | I don't want them in my system, nor have to. |
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| 17:59.18 | krait | Skyrider: I think it's possible but it's dependent on what you're using |
| 17:59.49 | srg | Skyrider: Virtual Users. Most MTA's support this. I know a setup with Postfix/Dovecot and a database (PostgreSQL?) will work fine. |
| 18:00.01 | krait | Right, that's one way |
| 18:00.03 | srg | Skyrider: The tricky word here is "easily." |
| 18:00.18 | srg | You can use flatfiles/maps instead of a SQL DB. |
| 18:00.23 | Skyrider | ISPConfig seems to be doing it easily.. |
| 18:00.27 | krait | another is you could use an alternate text-based database for Dovecot, similar to the one used for PAM |
| 18:00.30 | Skyrider | simple domain, user & pass.. and done |
| 18:00.31 | Skyrider | it works |
| 18:00.44 | srg | Skyrider: Do you want users to be able to change their own passwords? |
| 18:00.45 | Skyrider | though I prefer not using ispconfig. |
| 18:00.50 | srg | That complicates it a bit. |
| 18:00.51 | Skyrider | Doesn't matter, it's all for me. |
| 18:00.55 | srg | oh, ok |
| 18:01.00 | srg | well that makes it a bit simplier. |
| 18:01.05 | Skyrider | ^_^ |
| 18:01.06 | srg | What MTA do you use (or what to use)? |
| 18:01.13 | krait | srg: yeah I prefer the flatfile methods myself ;-) |
| 18:01.13 | Skyrider | mta what now? |
| 18:01.26 | srg | MTA = Mail Transport Agent. Like sendmail, exim, postfix, etc |
| 18:01.29 | srg | the "mail server daemon" |
| 18:01.58 | Skyrider | oh.. I'm currently using postfix & dovacot.. |
| 18:02.02 | Skyrider | If I said the last one correctly. |
| 18:02.09 | Skyrider | dovecot, most likely. |
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| 18:02.48 | srg | Skyrider: http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html That should get you started |
| 18:03.09 | Skyrider | Thanks :) |
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| 18:10.34 | mtottenh | Does anyone know why grub isn't recognising a usb stick that it's booted from? I plugged it in, and it booted grub, but it drops me at a grub promp and doing ls just gives: (proc) |
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| 18:25.19 | teraflop | mtottenh: how did you manage to get the usb bootable? |
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| 18:27.22 | mtottenh | teraflop: Long story.... I created it by copying an iso I generated using xorriso, using isolinux as a bios boot option and a FAT32 file system image (containing grub2 efi) as an alternate efi el-torito boot option. |
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| 18:29.12 | teraflop | mtottenh: so when you did the initial question how it is possible to get yourself helped if you did not tell that info? |
| 18:30.00 | mtottenh | I figured it was probably a problem with grub if it can't see any bios drives no? |
| 18:30.07 | mtottenh | (or uefi drives). |
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| 18:32.04 | mtottenh | The strage thing is that it works perfectly in Qemu + OVMF |
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| 18:34.09 | htqp | mtottenh: don't know how to help, but be aware that bios-booted grub cannot chainload efi bootloaders and vice-versa, so I wonder whether bios-booted isolinux could boot efi grub.. |
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| 18:35.39 | teraflop | mtottenh: i did this shit time ago may me it's not related to your issue at all or may be it might help http://www.rodsbooks.com/bios2uefi/ |
| 18:35.39 | mtottenh | htqp: That's not happening. If the system is UEFI, then an EFI grub binary is loaded and I get dropped at a prompt. If the system is BIOS then isolinux loads my kernel as if grub wasn't even there (which is what I want it to do). The problem I have is that grub doesn't seem to recognise any devices attached to the machine. |
| 18:35.45 | Skyrider | I don't get it.. |
| 18:35.56 | teraflop | may be* |
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| 18:36.25 | Tendoncs | hello |
| 18:36.48 | Tendoncs | anyone work with Shell scripts much? |
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| 18:37.18 | cmtptr | I've heard of them |
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| 18:37.25 | mtottenh | Tendoncs: Sure whats the problem. |
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| 18:39.23 | Tendoncs | I write a basic script. That Starts Chromium and a java program. I linked it in the user's .profile to get it to run. However When I SSH into the box It tries to run the script. IS there a way to do a "if in term dont run." |
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| 18:41.19 | cmtptr | Tendoncs, test for [ -z "$SSH_TTY" ] |
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| 18:42.39 | cmtptr | in fact, .profile probably isn't the place to do this |
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| 18:43.43 | Tendoncs | I am running it on a rapsberry pi 2. So some of the palces I have tried did not work. Where would be a good place to run this script? |
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| 18:44.07 | cmtptr | are you using a login manager or anything? how do you start X? |
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| 18:47.25 | Tendoncs | I do not think I am using alogin manager |
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| 18:47.32 | Tendoncs | I installed raspbian. |
| 18:47.36 | Tendoncs | Still new to Linux |
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| 18:48.28 | Nesse | Anyone tried running Snort 2.9.7.2 on Wheezy ? |
| 18:48.38 | Nesse | will it work? |
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| 18:49.41 | cmtptr | Tendoncs, so when you boot the thing what do you see? just a terminal? |
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| 18:51.08 | Nesse | I'm new to Snort and I have a short question: Would it be safe to use Snort 2.9.2.x today with current VRT rules and emerging threat rules? |
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| 18:51.19 | Nesse | ..or would Snort 2.9.2.x with todays rules be useless against todays malware, etc. ? |
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| 18:51.30 | Tendoncs | No, It boots into a desktop |
| 18:52.11 | Nesse | Tendoncs: Whats your problem? |
| 18:52.32 | cmtptr | he wants to execute a script when he logs into the desktop manager |
| 18:52.53 | cmtptr | I don't use a login manager so I can't help from here, except to suggest maybe .xsession or something |
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| 18:54.02 | cmtptr | er, desktop environment |
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| 18:55.14 | adilix | Tendoncs boot into the runlevel 3, it doesnt load any Display manager, it loads to the console |
| 18:55.52 | cmtptr | how does that help him? |
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| 18:56.35 | towo` | and in debian, runlevel 2-5 is all the same |
| 18:56.37 | adilix | what is the exactly problem |
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| 18:57.21 | adilix | towo` no its not the same |
| 18:57.30 | towo` | sure, it is |
| 18:57.39 | adilix | runlevel 2 and 3 boots into the console, |
| 18:57.44 | towo` | if not, you havn't debian |
| 18:57.49 | adilix | i have debian |
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| 18:58.16 | towo` | then you have slfconfigured the runlevel |
| 18:58.18 | jhutchins | towo`: You can do that with debian, it's just not the default. |
| 18:58.25 | towo` | jhutchins, i know |
| 18:58.36 | towo` | but i speak about the defaults |
| 18:58.37 | GPenguin | https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel |
| 18:58.37 | Skyrider | I appear to get the emails to work.. however, its sending out my emails under 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:58.42 | Skyrider | Thus gmail is blocking it. |
| 18:58.45 | adilix | you have to edit the /etc/inittab |
| 18:58.56 | jhutchins | adilix: That's not the way Debian configures it by default. RedHat and derivatives do that. |
| 18:59.09 | adilix | i have made it so in debian |
| 18:59.22 | jhutchins | adilix: You also have to build different links in the runlevels. |
| 18:59.24 | Skyrider | Received: from vps.xxxxx.com ([2a00:1768:1004::8e54:56b]) - Received: from vps.xxx.com ([127.0.0.1]) |
| 18:59.25 | adilix | here the same way http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15527/how-to-boot-debian-into-text-mode-without-using-gui |
| 18:59.29 | Skyrider | Any way I can fix that? |
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| 19:00.44 | jhutchins | Tendoncs: Is your question how to run a script at boot time, regardless of whether you get a GUI or a console? |
| 19:01.00 | Skyrider | when I submit an email from another domain I have, on the same VPS.. and send it to a gmail account, I'm getting (as source): Received: from vps.xxxx.com ([31.xx.25.xx]) |
| 19:01.03 | Skyrider | showing up the IP just fine. |
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| 19:01.25 | cmtptr | jhutchins, since he wants to launch chromium, I think it's safe to assume he wants to run the script when he logs into a DE |
| 19:02.39 | Tendoncs | cmtptr, adilix, nesse. I am using raspberry pi 2 as metric displays on tvs. So I have to write a small script that turns on Chroium (display my stream) and then runs a java program I wrote. the Java program sends keybord keys to expand the website to fullscreen mode. |
| 19:02.41 | jhutchins | adilix: You'll notice that that says you have to set up the runlevel to not load the GUI. |
| 19:03.09 | Tendoncs | sorry for the delay I testing cmtptr sugestion. |
| 19:03.17 | jhutchins | Tendoncs: Most GUIs have a way to configure startup programs. |
| 19:03.51 | jhutchins | Tendoncs: Gnome is the Debian default, it might be different from the Raspian default. Raspian might also have fewer options for GUI setup. |
| 19:04.14 | jhutchins | Tendoncs: It sounds very much like you need to run the two things from within the GUI session. |
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| 19:04.23 | Tendoncs | Yeah. |
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| 19:04.59 | Tendoncs | I Am running them from the .profile right now. And this loads when you ssh into it. Not a big deal I just ctrl+c to stop it but. I Would not like that for a longterm solution |
| 19:05.43 | adilix | Tendoncs you mean that script should start after you login as a user |
| 19:06.20 | htqp | side note: you may want to send the keystrokes with xdotool which should be lighter than java |
| 19:06.21 | Tendoncs | Yeah, It should run when the user logins in. However only into the GUI not the SSH terminal. |
| 19:06.41 | Tendoncs | xdotools did not work. It freaked out on the rapsberry pi 2. |
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| 19:07.23 | Tendoncs | it would work when you would run it in the GUI but when you try to run it via a Script it would crash for no known reason |
| 19:07.24 | adilix | Tendoncs did you tried it with the .xsession |
| 19:07.48 | Tendoncs | no |
| 19:07.50 | Tendoncs | Not yet |
| 19:08.03 | teraflop | Tendoncs: have you said what DE or WM are you using? |
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| 19:08.21 | acz32 | to install guest additions in a debian VM running inside of another OS, should i insert the guest additions isofrom virtualbox on the host OS, or install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso from within the debian guest? |
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| 19:09.27 | Tendoncs | It is off a raspberry pi using RASPBIAN Debian Wheezy Release date:2015-02-16 |
| 19:09.50 | adilix | acz32 both are correct ways, i use "from within the debian guest" |
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| 19:12.11 | teraflop | Tendoncs: so the not said de/wm is running and what you want is to launch the script when you ssh into the machine? |
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| 19:12.39 | berburik | ANz photos leaked (crimeircd admin): http://anzphotos.webukr.net/ |
| 19:12.44 | berburik | ANz photos leaked (crimeircd admin): http://anzphotos.webukr.net/ |
| 19:13.31 | Tendoncs | Teraflop: No right now the script runs when I login the GUI or SSH. |
| 19:13.40 | Tendoncs | I just want it to run when the GUI logins |
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| 19:15.39 | jhutchins | Tendoncs: Depending on the GUI it might also be appropriate to have it in .xinitrc |
| 19:15.46 | teraflop | damn im getting old or you suck at describing the problem |
| 19:15.51 | Skyrider | Anyone? |
| 19:15.53 | ctmjr | Tendoncs: you might ask in #raspbian as any help you get here will be a guess based on how debian does things |
| 19:15.56 | teraflop | T |
| 19:16.12 | Tendoncs | I might suck at describing it. Super new to linux. |
| 19:16.16 | cmtptr | teraflop, I think you all suck at understanding the problem |
| 19:16.18 | teraflop | ups |
| 19:16.22 | jhutchins | !raspian |
| 19:16.22 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 19:16.31 | Tendoncs | Thanks ctmjr |
| 19:16.32 | adilix | aaa yeaaa .xinitrc not .xsession Tendoncs |
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| 19:16.45 | cmtptr | he wants to run a script when a user logs into the DE, and not at any other login. |
| 19:16.48 | cmtptr | the end |
| 19:16.49 | jhutchins | Tendoncs: You would be a lot safer there - the subtle differences can be deadly. |
| 19:17.12 | Skyrider | odd. |
| 19:18.09 | jhutchins | ctmjr: I see you had the same thought. |
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| 19:19.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | Are control files RFC822-compliant? |
| 19:19.16 | jhutchins | Skyrider: Which mailserver are you running? |
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| 19:19.21 | ctmjr | jhutchins: yep it's like you said "the subtle differences can be deadly" |
| 19:19.36 | jhutchins | Eduard_Munteanu: How long is a piece of string? |
| 19:20.00 | Tendoncs | Thanks dpkg |
| 19:20.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | jhutchins, er, not sure what you mean |
| 19:20.18 | Tendoncs | Thanks Ctmjr i will try there |
| 19:20.24 | jhutchins | Eduard_Munteanu: Exactly. |
| 19:20.33 | cmtptr | also everybody sucks at reading my nick apparently |
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| 19:20.56 | jhutchins | Eduard_Munteanu: Control files which are rfc822 compliant are rfc822 compliant. Those that are not are not. |
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| 19:21.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | jhutchins, I'm basically asking if the format described by https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html can be parsed using an RFC822 parser or if it's some other well-known format. |
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| 19:24.25 | jhutchins | Eduard_Munteanu: rfc822 is a standard for text messages (specifically email). |
| 19:25.10 | Skyrider | jhutchins: postfix/dovecot. |
| 19:25.13 | Eduard_Munteanu | Well, yeah, I do realize semantics and stuff like dependency expressions can't possibly be in RFC822, but the lexical aspect? |
| 19:25.27 | Skyrider | Oddly enough, it works just fine on my email I created on the same domain as my hostname (-f) |
| 19:25.39 | Skyrider | but on another domain name I added, under that hostname.. it sends out as 127.0.0.1 |
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| 19:29.29 | Skyrider | my hostname is vps with -f mydomain.com -> created email skyrider@mydomain.com -> sends out mail just fine under the VPS IP address... I added another domain -> created email address skyrider@domain2.com -> sends out mail as 127.0.0.1 |
| 19:29.33 | Skyrider | I'd like to know why |
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| 19:30.16 | baordog2 | Question about packages: |
| 19:30.41 | baordog2 | When a package receives a backport, and by that I mean - an update for that does not increment the version number |
| 19:30.46 | baordog2 | how is that signified? |
| 19:31.07 | baordog2 | Specifically, I am trying to find a programatically check for packages which have had backported security fixes |
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| 19:33.15 | berburik | ANz photos leaked (crimeircd admin): http://anzphotos.webukr.net/ |
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| 19:33.48 | Skyrider | Right.. |
| 19:33.51 | Skyrider | not even going to click that link |
| 19:35.01 | adilix | is that a spammer |
| 19:35.28 | ctmjr | !ops spambots |
| 19:35.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ctmjr complains about: spambots |
| 19:36.05 | ctmjr | sorry it left allready |
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| 19:36.58 | berburik | fact about debian and irc http://bitcoinmegaphone.com/19sS93WU7aydhAKnsau9fo9MPMtCxeUuXU/ |
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| 19:37.51 | abrotman | berceanu: please go spam elsewhere |
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| 19:38.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | i don't even know what that's supposed to mean. |
| 19:38.18 | abrotman | ugh ,.. wrong person |
| 19:38.20 | jelly | abrotman: fail! |
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| 19:38.48 | abrotman | poor berceanu didn't even know what hit them .. sorry |
| 19:39.38 | NoImNotNineVolt | photos of some random dude? |
| 19:40.03 | NoImNotNineVolt | why would anyone care about an op in #unix on some obscure irc server? |
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| 19:42.01 | jelly | NoImNotNineVolt: don't click or random links from spammers/bots, dude |
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| 19:42.24 | jelly | well, unless you have a safe isolated machine to do that in |
| 19:43.41 | srg | Safe/isolated meaning airgapped :-P |
| 19:43.51 | abrotman | NoImNotNineVolt: you don't have to comment on spam .. |
| 19:46.16 | srg | That mailing list thread (which i didn't read) makes me want to install firefox manually. I should probably go read it. |
| 19:46.37 | srg | I use iceweasel-release from the experimental repo now |
| 19:46.47 | srg | which seems iffy (having to pin and such) |
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| 19:50.21 | krait | baordog2: backported pacakges should have ~bpo in the package version |
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| 19:50.53 | krait | baordog2: but for security fixes, that usually follows ~deb7u1 |
| 19:50.59 | Timmy | how can I monitor syslog just like journalctl -f reports file changes on the terminal? |
| 19:51.54 | baordog2 | krait: ~deb7u1? |
| 19:52.06 | krait | baordog2: but there's no specific package identifier for a "backported security fix" for a package in Stable |
| 19:52.27 | Skyrider | It didn't really leave.. was klined. |
| 19:52.48 | krait | baordog2: yeah for pacakges in Stable a security fix would get ~deb<major version #>u<update #>. Let me see if I can find the web page that explains this. |
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| 19:54.22 | acz32 | srg: why experimental? |
| 19:54.26 | srg | acz32: that's what mozilla.debian.net says to do in order to get the release version of firefox/iceweasel |
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| 19:54.51 | acz32 | it's in wheezy-backports |
| 19:55.13 | srg | I'm on jessie |
| 19:55.44 | adilix | can someone explain me why there isnt a package for noip duc client ? |
| 19:56.08 | srg | adilix: Someone didn't do it yet or it was removed due to unresolved release-critical bugs or licensing issue |
| 19:56.09 | acz32 | srg: you could get it from firefox.com |
| 19:56.13 | acz32 | without adding repos |
| 19:56.19 | acz32 | until jessie is released |
| 19:56.23 | srg | acz32: Yeah, that's what I might end up doing, just instaling it manually |
| 19:57.12 | acz32 | you don't even need to install it, just download and run |
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| 19:58.08 | srg | oh, alrighty |
| 19:58.21 | srg | It can update itself with the built-in updater? I typically use the beta version when given the choice |
| 19:58.55 | srg | tries it |
| 19:59.01 | acz32 | probably. i only use the release version though so i don't know about beta |
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| 19:59.31 | donkey_boy | hi everyone! burn all jews in oven! |
| 19:59.33 | donkey_boy | allahu akhbar |
| 19:59.36 | donkey_boy | death to infidels |
| 19:59.38 | donkey_boy | god bless allah |
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| 19:59.41 | donkey_boy | allahu akhbar |
| 19:59.48 | adilix | go fuck you motherfucker |
| 20:00.00 | krait | baordog2: I think the answer for what ~deb7u1 is in the Debian Developer's Reference but I'm having trouble finding the specific page |
| 20:00.02 | acz32 | troll |
| 20:00.08 | Skyrider | sad people, sad.. |
| 20:00.10 | donkey_boy | I THROW STONES TO JEWS |
| 20:00.17 | donkey_boy | MY STONES CRUSH ISRAELI TANKS |
| 20:00.22 | donkey_boy | MY FATHER HAS EIGHT DONKEYS |
| 20:00.25 | acz32 | you probably are jewish, trying to make muslims look bad. quit it |
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| 20:01.33 | srg | I deal with people like that on the subway all the time. |
| 20:01.57 | srg | Crazy ones. You learn to not even process the speech in your brain. |
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| 20:02.31 | donkey_boy | BURN ALL JEWS IN OVEN |
| 20:02.34 | donkey_boy | ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU |
| 20:02.34 | donkey_boy | AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR |
| 20:02.42 | krait | baordog2: it's in Developer's Reference section 5.8.5.4 https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#bug-security |
| 20:02.52 | adilix | why noone kicks him |
| 20:03.02 | srg | abrotman: ^ |
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| 20:03.12 | Rug | Well, /ignore works well |
| 20:03.29 | tethra | um |
| 20:03.36 | acz32 | there are a lot of JIDF people going around pretending to be muslims and acting like assholes as some sort of stupid campaign |
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| 20:04.35 | donkey_boy | ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU |
| 20:04.35 | donkey_boy | AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR ALLAHU AKHBAR |
| 20:04.51 | adilix | that is boring my balls really |
| 20:05.09 | ctmjr | !ops yes another one "donkey_boy" |
| 20:05.09 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ctmjr complains about: yes another one "donkey_boy" |
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| 20:06.21 | krait | baordog2: so the +deb7u1 means a security update to Debian 7, update 1. |
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| 20:09.37 | niubee | hi, i did an update (i'm on jessie with gnome 3.14) and the wifi stopped working (it leases a connection but nothing uses it, ethernet works fine) any known causes for this problem? |
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| 20:11.51 | krait | baordog2: but if you were asking about how to denote security fixes on packages from backports.debian.org, that I'm not quite sure about. |
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| 20:12.11 | squisher | niubee, what do you mean by "it leases it"? That it gets a dhcp lease? If that's the case, everything else _should_ work too |
| 20:12.54 | squisher | krait, I think that backports don't actually get official security support |
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| 20:13.31 | krait | squisher: Yeah that would make some sense. |
| 20:15.58 | baordog2 | krait: No I am writing a tool to double check if a system is secure |
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| 20:16.13 | baordog2 | Sometimes debian will add a patch without incrementing the version number |
| 20:16.19 | baordog2 | which is sometimes confusing to pen testers |
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| 20:16.37 | baordog2 | because you're like "oh this is vulnerable to ghost" and it turns out it's patched, just without incrementing the version number |
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| 20:17.20 | FlyingSquirl456 | hi |
| 20:17.28 | niubee | squisher: both gnome's user menu, ifconfig and the router claim that a connection has been established but not traffic goes through it (no iceweasel, no w3m, no ping, no aptitude use the connection) |
| 20:17.59 | FlyingSquirl456 | does anyone know how to install drivers for nvidia |
| 20:18.31 | abrotman | dpkg: tell FlyingSquirl456 about nvidia |
| 20:20.08 | baordog2 | FlyingSquirl456: use nvidia's installer |
| 20:20.44 | ctmjr | baordog2: that's not a goog idea |
| 20:21.04 | baordog2 | why not? |
| 20:21.11 | niubee | squisher: at first i thought it might be a firmware issue but iwlwifi is installed, i have nfc what's going on. any ideas? (this is a relative's machine, i don't use and am not familiar with gnome 3.14, maybe i'm missing something obvious?) |
| 20:21.38 | ctmjr | baordog2: it breaks on kernel ugrades |
| 20:21.41 | krait | baordog2: I don't think I understand your question re: uploads that don't change the verison #. The package version has to be updated on each upload AFAIK. |
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| 20:22.25 | baordog2 | krait: It changes the deb number, but not the version number. |
| 20:22.27 | jelly | baordog2: pen testers can go actually test for vulns instead of relying on versions |
| 20:22.50 | baordog2 | jelly: I'm a pen tester, and I am researching this on the request of others, so yeah, it's useful. |
| 20:22.54 | jelly | else they can be called "vers checkers" |
| 20:23.00 | krait | yeah re: Nvidia I'd prefer the nvidia-kernel-dkms + nvidia-kernel-source packages. |
| 20:23.10 | baordog2 | Yeah, we do that. That's part of the job |
| 20:23.10 | adilix | what is a pen tester? |
| 20:23.13 | jelly | !tell baordog2 about tracker of doom |
| 20:23.51 | krait | baordog2: Right, changes the package verion # but not the "underlying software version #". |
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| 20:24.03 | baordog2 | Not all pen testing is vulnerabity research, often you are checking highly vanilla systems for vanilla problem. |
| 20:24.18 | squisher | niubee, if ping doesn't work, then it shouldn't have anything to do with gnome. I'd have a glance at what packages got updated, maybe that'll leave a clue. What target did you ping? can you ping the machine from the outside? |
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| 20:25.17 | baordog2 | So in a version # like "2.11.3-4+deb6u5" the 2.11.3 is supposed to corospond to the version of the underlying software? |
| 20:25.38 | krait | Yes. |
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| 20:25.45 | baordog2 | OK |
| 20:26.00 | baordog2 | That makes my job simple then, I just have to parse logs. |
| 20:26.34 | krait | the -4 means the 4th Debian pacakge upload to Unstable before the freeze, +deb6u5 means the 5th Security upload since it went into Stable (Oldstable in this case) |
| 20:26.43 | SynrGy | baordog2: could have backported patches from later upstream versions applied, however. |
| 20:27.28 | krait | baordog2: it isn't as simple as that because there are package version #'s based on dates because the pacakged version comes from some VCS repository (Git, SVN, etc) |
| 20:27.48 | SynrGy | baordog2: there's a good reason for that. we value stability. |
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| 20:28.09 | SynrGy | simply upgrading to a new upstream version introduces unknowns |
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| 20:28.30 | baordog2 | SynrGy: But any major bug patch would be in the changelogs for the package correct? |
| 20:28.50 | FlyingSquirl456 | can someone actually help me with this nvidia thing? |
| 20:28.52 | krait | Should be mentioned in the changelog, yes. |
| 20:28.53 | SynrGy | should be, yes. |
| 20:29.08 | baordog2 | I think that's most sure fire way to tell. |
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| 20:29.59 | SynrGy | auditing code is *the* sure fire way to tell ;) |
| 20:30.19 | niubee | squisher: thanks anyway |
| 20:30.20 | SynrGy | but checking the changelog is faster and should be accurate. |
| 20:30.50 | krait | FlyingSquirl456: the way I used to install the drivers for Nvidia was to install the packages nvidia-kernel-dkms and nvidia-kernel-source. They might only be in in the Unstable repo (not sure). |
| 20:31.21 | baordog2 | SynrGy: yeah, auditing is better but sometimes you want to do a quick audit of an entire system |
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| 20:31.55 | jelly | baordog2: like debsecan does? |
| 20:32.23 | ctmjr | FlyingSquirl456: what graphics card do you have? and what have you done to install the driver? |
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| 20:33.03 | jhutchins | !nvidia | FlyingSquirl456 |
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| 20:33.06 | baordog2 | jelly: Depends on how debsecan works. |
| 20:33.25 | baordog2 | The hope would be finding a package for which updating wouldn't help anyway |
| 20:33.34 | baordog2 | Like test versions against CVE numbers. |
| 20:33.41 | jelly | baordog2: like debsecan does? |
| 20:33.45 | jelly | hides |
| 20:34.28 | baordog2 | Then no script needed, if it works the way I want it to. |
| 20:34.28 | FlyingSquirl456 | Card: NVIDIA GeForce GT 620 |
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| 20:35.23 | FlyingSquirl456 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:37.01 | FlyingSquirl456 | can anyone help? |
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| 20:37.50 | ctmjr | FlyingSquirl456: read this https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers you want the 340 driver from backports make sure you read the configuration section |
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| 20:37.55 | mtn | FlyingSquirl456: have you followed the debian wiki? what is the exact problem you are having? |
| 20:39.13 | krait | FlyingSquirl456: The nvidia-kernel packages in unstable are version 340.65 which looks like they should support the GeForce GT 620 from looking at the Nvidia website |
| 20:39.34 | krait | mtn: he's trying to install the Nvidia drivers |
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| 20:40.06 | mtn | krait: ok and? I suggested the wiki, which sounds good, right? |
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| 20:40.25 | krait | mtn: yes and yes. |
| 20:40.51 | mtn | shrug |
| 20:41.16 | FlyingSquirl456 | I am using deb stable but nvidia-detect nvidia-glx |
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| 20:41.49 | FlyingSquirl456 | when i install it i get the same performance from my cpu |
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| 20:44.23 | babilen | FlyingSquirl456: How do you measure that and have you installed the driver from backports as suggested by ctmjr ? |
| 20:46.16 | FlyingSquirl456 | I do not know how to do a backport or from source |
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| 20:49.23 | squisher | FlyingSquirl456, backports != backporting. The former is another apt source, the latter is getting a testing/unstable packaging and trying to build it on stable |
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| 20:50.02 | squisher | so backports is easy to do, I'm sure there are good instructions on the wiki |
| 20:51.02 | babilen | there are and the wiki site was mentiond earlie |
| 20:51.05 | babilen | +r |
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| 20:56.07 | nami | hi, has systemd log somewhere on the disk? |
| 20:56.23 | cmtptr | journalctl |
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| 20:56.32 | nami | i'm sorry but i'm not able to run anything |
| 20:56.40 | nami | i can just access to disk |
| 20:56.43 | cmtptr | oh |
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| 20:56.51 | nami | it's a remote machine |
| 20:56.56 | nami | i don't have any way to monitor etc |
| 20:56.59 | nami | i used to connect by ssh |
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| 20:57.05 | nami | now isn't going up on boot |
| 20:57.05 | cmtptr | well, because systemd is designed by people who have never used a computer before, they designed the logs to be binary |
| 20:57.28 | nami | maybe i can change to sysvinit |
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| 20:57.30 | nami | by changing some file? |
| 20:57.36 | SynrGy | the editorializing isn't helpful. |
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| 20:57.55 | nami | actually i don't know how to debug this |
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| 21:00.02 | baordog2 | So..... I wonder if red hat has a security scanner like debsecan |
| 21:01.15 | mete- | is it possible to prevent showing 50 entrys for "whois google.com" ? I only want to show the exact match for "google.com"? |
| 21:01.39 | valdyn | nami: is this a new install or and upgraded system? |
| 21:01.52 | jelly | baordog2: redhat network web interface tells you which packages you have installed but unpatched, and how many are critical (usually security) fixes, for each registered installation |
| 21:01.55 | nami | valdyn: upgraded. |
| 21:02.07 | nami | valdyn: and then reboot: no net/no ssh accessible |
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| 21:02.29 | valdyn | nami: then you had both, rsyslog and systemd running, and the log is there in ascii |
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| 21:03.00 | jelly | baordog2: but ask in #rhel or somewhere around there, they know more |
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| 21:03.50 | baordog2 | of course |
| 21:04.00 | valdyn | mete-: whois -x google.com |
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| 21:04.41 | mete- | valdyn: unfortunately whois -x is also showing all the entries... I alredy tried that :S |
| 21:04.52 | valdyn | mete-: are you using debian? |
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| 21:04.59 | mete- | jep |
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| 21:05.23 | nami | valdyn: i'm not able to locate them |
| 21:05.28 | valdyn | mete-: debians whois supports -x and it shows only the exact match if theres none |
| 21:05.32 | valdyn | mete-: debians whois supports -x and it shows only the exact match if theres one |
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| 21:05.43 | valdyn | mete-: gives zero in this case |
| 21:05.56 | mete- | valdyn, one moemnt, I will paste the result on pastebin |
| 21:06.15 | valdyn | mete-: so - obviously theres no google.com whois entry. |
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| 21:06.33 | valdyn | mete-: all you can find is subdomain entries in the whois db |
| 21:07.39 | valdyn | mete-: or in fact some whois server is a little flaky, theres an entry, it just didnt show once |
| 21:09.07 | mete- | valdyn: http://pastebin.com/Suxd0WcQ |
| 21:09.54 | valdyn | mete-: yea, your -x flag is not working |
| 21:10.19 | mete- | and why? what's wrong with my -x flag? ^^ |
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| 21:10.38 | valdyn | mete-: see the manpage |
| 21:11.10 | valdyn | mete-: hmm, sorry, i read that wrong, nvm |
| 21:11.30 | owg1 | I've just installed Debian 6 on a VPS, one thing that is bothering me is that I don't seem to be able to get 256bit colours in my SSH sessions. Any ideas on how to fix thise? |
| 21:11.32 | Devastator | is there any easy way of getting php 5.5.23 on debian? |
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| 21:12.58 | SynrGy | Devastator: why specifically that version? |
| 21:13.09 | SynrGy | ,v php5 |
| 21:13.10 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze25; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; sid: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1 |
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| 21:14.11 | Devastator | SynrG because 5.5 is what was recommended by #php, 5.5.23 specifically, it has some new functions that I want to use |
| 21:14.32 | SynrGy | there is no backport for wheezy. 5.6.7 is available on jessie. |
| 21:14.38 | SynrGy | which releases this month (if all goes well) |
| 21:14.55 | Devastator | it will |
| 21:14.56 | SynrGy | so if 5.6.7 works well for you, you could use that. |
| 21:15.13 | Devastator | SynrG thanks, I will check with php guys :) |
| 21:15.27 | SynrGy | Devastator: you're still on wheezy? |
| 21:15.36 | Devastator | SynrG yes sir |
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| 21:15.47 | mete- | Devastator: you can compile it by yourself, should work ;) |
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| 21:16.10 | Devastator | mete- it might, but it's not debian recommended way I guess |
| 21:16.12 | SynrGy | you could play with it in a debootstrap of jessie until you're ready to upgrade to jessie. |
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| 21:20.03 | valdyn | mete-: ok: whois 'domain google.com' |
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| 21:20.33 | SynrGy | yay |
| 21:20.48 | SynrGy | valdyn: not my problem, but it was bugging me not knowing :) |
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| 21:21.46 | mete- | perfect, thank you valdyn |
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| 21:22.23 | Devastator | SynrG it's a test VM, so no problems on upgrading, no sensible data hehe |
| 21:22.34 | SynrGy | sure |
| 21:22.44 | SynrGy | go for it, then |
| 21:22.48 | SynrGy | dpkg: wheezy->jessie |
| 21:22.49 | dpkg | Remember that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support to be cautious; ask me about <jessie security>. (1) READ THE RELEASE NOTES: http://deb.li/ldcj (2) From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like wheezy-updates and backports, and change wheezy to jessie. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
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| 21:23.15 | SynrGy | of course with the usual caveats mentioned above |
| 21:23.24 | SynrGy | but this close to the release, less of a risk. |
| 21:23.29 | ompaul | which get less and less as the days go by in theory |
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| 21:23.37 | ompaul | but sometimes, just sometimes ... oh well |
| 21:23.46 | ompaul | SynrGy: that more like the sentiment? |
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| 21:24.03 | SynrGy | :) |
| 21:24.04 | SynrGy | yep |
| 21:24.34 | ompaul | it is unlikely but not unheard of for things to fall apart pretty badly |
| 21:24.47 | ompaul | it depends on what you depend on |
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| 21:25.18 | Devastator | gonna format this vm and start with jessie hehe |
| 21:25.24 | ompaul | then on the other hand this is from a guy who has run SID since 2009 and knows something of how to get out of jail when the box is in front of him |
| 21:25.44 | ompaul | but I lost about three days compute time in that |
| 21:26.02 | FlyingSquirl456 | Okay i have read the links provided and I can not get the echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 21:26.08 | FlyingSquirl456 | command to work |
| 21:26.20 | ompaul | Devastator: start with a clean install of a minimal stable, and dist upgrade from there for the optimum solution |
| 21:26.31 | ompaul | then add packages as required |
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| 21:26.37 | squisher | FlyingSquirl456, run that cmd as root |
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| 21:26.54 | squisher | sudo won't work like that |
| 21:27.20 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:27.24 | SynrGy | FlyingSquirl456: also when you report problems, don't just say "doesn't work". give us output |
| 21:27.38 | ompaul | SynrGy: allow me |
| 21:27.59 | ompaul | FlyingSquirl456: is it sitting on the couch drinking your coffee and smoking your smokes? |
| 21:28.06 | SynrGy | :) |
| 21:28.09 | ompaul | what does doesn't work mean? |
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| 21:28.26 | ompaul | hogging the TV remote control? ;-) |
| 21:28.37 | ompaul | FlyingSquirl456: we don't know what you mean by doesn't work |
| 21:29.00 | FlyingSquirl456 | Permission denied |
| 21:29.06 | ompaul | su - |
| 21:29.08 | ompaul | and then |
| 21:29.12 | ompaul | but where did you get that command |
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| 21:29.23 | ompaul | FlyingSquirl456: ^^ all for you |
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| 21:29.33 | LiENUS | whats up with wheezy backports? |
| 21:29.46 | ompaul | LiENUS: what does the question mean? |
| 21:29.54 | SynrGy | is it sunday? |
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| 21:30.01 | ompaul | LiENUS: sorry, what do you mean by what's up with $X |
| 21:30.09 | FlyingSquirl456 | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#configure |
| 21:30.12 | ompaul | SynrGy: feels like it |
| 21:30.17 | LiENUS | ompaul, i'm getting signature failure on one mashine and on another hash sum mismatch |
| 21:30.31 | ompaul | LiENUS: apt-get update a few minutes later |
| 21:30.39 | LiENUS | ompaul, been going on since last night |
| 21:30.48 | ompaul | LiENUS: so what are your sources? |
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| 21:30.51 | LiENUS | machines arent even in the same building nor are they on the same isp |
| 21:31.21 | cmtptr | why does linux-image-amd64 pull in busybox? |
| 21:31.31 | FlyingSquirl456 | and sense I can not configure mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d I crash my system |
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| 21:32.03 | ompaul | FlyingSquirl456: ENOPARSE that doesn't make sense in English |
| 21:32.13 | LiENUS | ompaul, stock wheezy, backports and docker |
| 21:32.36 | ompaul | ,v docker |
| 21:32.37 | judd | Package: docker on i386 -- wheezy: 1.4-5; squeeze: 1.4-5; sid: 1.5-1; jessie: 1.5-1 |
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| 21:33.06 | FlyingSquirl456 | enoparse? |
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| 21:33.18 | SynrGy | LiENUS: btw, that isn't what he asked. what's your /etc/apt/sources.list ... put it at paste.debian.net, please. |
| 21:33.22 | ompaul | LiENUS: please paste in http://paste.debian.net the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:33.31 | LiENUS | SynrGy, that kinda is what he asked |
| 21:33.36 | ompaul | LiENUS: na |
| 21:33.45 | ompaul | not really even kinda ;-) |
| 21:33.46 | LiENUS | docker is a source |
| 21:33.54 | FlyingSquirl456 | ompaul:? |
| 21:33.57 | ompaul | FlyingSquirl456: does not parse - makes no sense |
| 21:34.08 | ompaul | E for Error No Parse |
| 21:34.19 | ompaul | it's a linux kernel joke |
| 21:34.28 | FlyingSquirl456 | I do not know why it does not work |
| 21:34.29 | ompaul | but it means - sorry don't understand |
| 21:34.32 | valdyn | cmtptr: how can you not already have busybox installed? |
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| 21:35.03 | ompaul | FlyingSquirl456: your last line started with "and sense ..." and I don't understand that line please write it again |
| 21:35.08 | ompaul | in different language ... |
| 21:35.09 | cmtptr | valdyn, I'm debootstrapping |
| 21:35.17 | SynrGy | since? |
| 21:35.22 | LiENUS | http://paste.debian.net/164577 theres my sources.list |
| 21:35.24 | valdyn | cmtptr: busybox is needed in the initrd |
| 21:35.27 | LiENUS | and in sources.list.d... |
| 21:35.28 | cmtptr | valdyn, why do you think I should already ahve busybox installed? |
| 21:35.28 | ompaul | LiENUS: no, docker is a container and |
| 21:35.29 | cmtptr | oh |
| 21:35.35 | FlyingSquirl456 | I have tried putting a cat in from of cat > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
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| 21:35.49 | LiENUS | http://paste.debian.net/164578/ |
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| 21:36.15 | LiENUS | ompaul, yeah they also maintain a repository |
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| 21:36.17 | FlyingSquirl456 | it does work somewhat but it is still using too much cpu |
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| 21:36.41 | FlyingSquirl456 | I am thinking that I need to do nouveau blacklist |
| 21:36.46 | SynrGy | FlyingSquirl456: use a specific server instead of http.debian.net |
| 21:36.48 | ompaul | LiENUS: apt-get update on the box please paste the error or the last 10 lines of it please |
| 21:37.09 | FlyingSquirl456 | huh? |
| 21:37.13 | FlyingSquirl456 | why? |
| 21:37.14 | SynrGy | FlyingSquirl456: oops. meant for LiENUS |
| 21:37.20 | SynrGy | sorry |
| 21:37.26 | FlyingSquirl456 | thank you |
| 21:37.33 | SynrGy | anyway, ompaul has it |
| 21:37.35 | ompaul | SynrGy: is the CDN that broken on that side of the pond? |
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| 21:37.54 | valdyn | FlyingSquirl456: if you are using the debian package, then this is not needed |
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| 21:38.14 | SynrGy | ompaul: in general? not usually. but i think maybe it is in this case. |
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| 21:38.31 | ompaul | SynrGy: thanks |
| 21:38.32 | LiENUS | SynrGy, trying now.. |
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| 21:38.38 | LiENUS | yep that was it |
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| 21:38.55 | squisher | FlyingSquirl456, it just means he didn't understand what you were trying to say |
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| 21:52.03 | tomivs | We are building a IRC server with a raspberry using Raspbian "irc.natdroid.com #NatDroid" sorry for the spam :) |
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| 21:53.07 | Agiofws | hello |
| 21:53.26 | Agiofws | can you have a dual boot system with windows 7 and debian? |
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| 21:54.01 | tomivs | Agiofws, yep |
| 21:54.34 | tomivs | Agiofws, Install Windows then Install Debian |
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| 21:54.34 | Agiofws | how do i get the MBR back to normal once i;ve installed windows 7 ? |
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| 21:54.34 | owg1 | Any ideas how to go about fixing this? http://sprunge.us/LgDO |
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| 21:56.22 | squisher | Agiofws, it's a little painful: boot off a debian cd into rescue mode, enter your correct root partition, then run "grub-install /dev/sda" (the usual case at least) |
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| 21:57.25 | ompaul | owg1: apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade or whatever it tells you to do until it self resolvs |
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| 21:57.37 | valdyn | owg1: what storage is this on? an sdcard? |
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| 22:00.23 | SynrGy | tomivs: apologizing for the spam makes it ok, then? |
| 22:01.11 | cmtptr | made it okay by me |
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| 22:04.04 | owg1 | valdyn: VPS |
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| 22:06.28 | owg1 | Had to remove the packages that failed to install. That is strange |
| 22:06.45 | simonlnu | Hi |
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| 22:12.13 | pythonsnake | hey |
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| 22:12.17 | pythonsnake | got a weird problem |
| 22:12.28 | pythonsnake | ssh port is open, all good, can ping server go to web mail etc. |
| 22:12.34 | pythonsnake | however, when I try to ssh, it times out |
| 22:13.34 | cmtptr | can you ssh to the loopback interface? |
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| 22:17.06 | pythonsnake | cmtptr: it's remot |
| 22:17.09 | pythonsnake | remote |
| 22:17.17 | pythonsnake | I can chroot it now |
| 22:18.01 | owg1 | part |
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| 22:20.04 | Agiofws | i've installed jessie this way minimal install and then it installed most packages |
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| 22:24.03 | kdog | pythonsnake: did you figure out the ipv6 vs ipv4 in the sshd settings? |
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| 22:24.28 | hassoon | is ipv6 used widely after all ? |
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| 22:25.25 | kdog | hassoon: from pythonsnake's netstat output yesterday it looked like sshd was only listening on ipv6 |
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| 22:26.54 | hassoon | kdog: wbose sshd? pythonsnake's? if yes that's his very personal configuration of ssh, not something public offering servinces in ipv6, no? |
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| 22:26.58 | hassoon | whose * |
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| 22:27.29 | pythonsnake | kdog: not the problem here |
| 22:27.35 | kdog | hassoon: yes, pythonsnake's personal config |
| 22:27.37 | pythonsnake | I've reinstalled default config |
| 22:27.44 | pythonsnake | Apr 3 00:15:01 mail sshd[1687]: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ed25519_key |
| 22:27.47 | pythonsnake | Apr 3 00:15:01 mail sshd[1687]: fatal: No supported key exchange algorithms [preauth] |
| 22:27.49 | pythonsnake | interesting |
| 22:27.51 | pythonsnake | after reinstallation i got this |
| 22:28.02 | kdog | pythonsnake: OK cool |
| 22:28.14 | pythonsnake | what is it |
| 22:28.25 | SynrGy | new and old ssh can't agree on key exchange |
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| 22:28.40 | pythonsnake | when installing after purging |
| 22:28.43 | pythonsnake | /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst: 174: /var/lib/dpkg/info/openssh-server.postinst: cannot create /etc/ssh/sshd_config: Directory nonexistent |
| 22:28.46 | acz32 | i noticed when installing debian it configured and uses ipv6 on my install automatically. is that new? |
| 22:28.51 | pythonsnake | and I have to manually create ssh directory |
| 22:29.13 | kdog | pythonsnake: is your ssh_host key set to 600 permissions? |
| 22:29.49 | pythonsnake | kdog: let me reinstall everything |
| 22:29.54 | pythonsnake | libssh safe to delete? |
| 22:31.01 | pythonsnake | kdog: yup 600 |
| 22:31.06 | pythonsnake | -rw------- 1 root root 668 Apr 3 00:30 ssh_host_dsa_key |
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| 22:32.25 | kdog | pythonsnake: it was failing on /etc/ssh/ssh_host_es25519_key so that is the file that needs 600 |
| 22:32.59 | Dagger | acz32: v6 has worked out of the box on Debian for many years for me... although DHCPv6 hasn't been supported for all that time |
| 22:34.09 | kdog | acz32: I've noticed that as well. Since I don't use ipv6 I commented out "ListenAddress ::" on mine |
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| 22:34.31 | Dagger | ...yeah, don't do that |
| 22:34.36 | Dagger | it'll just cause you pain later |
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| 22:34.59 | kdog | Dagger: how come? unless you mean when I get v6 through my network |
| 22:35.03 | Dagger | (and let's not forget about the annoyance of dealing with NAT even now...) |
| 22:35.24 | pythonsnake | kdog: it fails on all files |
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| 22:36.51 | Dagger | kdog: I've already had to help people who couldn't get v6 working because they'd disabled it and forgotten how. just leave it at the default |
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| 22:38.20 | kdog | pythonsnake: have you tried cranking up the LogLevel in sshd config? |
| 22:38.35 | pythonsnake | kdog: hm |
| 22:38.55 | teoma | Hello -- with my laptop connected to an HDTV, xrandr lists 1920x1080 as an option but uses 1366x768 by default, and changing it to 1920x1080 makes the picture unclear -- any idea what's going on? |
| 22:39.29 | Dagger | the client also has -vv to up its verbosity. that might give you (or us, if you pastebin it) some hints |
| 22:39.33 | pythonsnake | kdog: it doesn't even launch |
| 22:39.44 | pythonsnake | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.47 | pythonsnake | doing nothing |
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| 22:43.29 | pythonsnake | problem fixed |
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| 22:43.42 | kdog | pythonsnake: ooh do tell |
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| 22:45.13 | pythonsnake | kdog: presumably it was because it's in chroot |
| 22:45.25 | pythonsnake | some stuff like /proc, interfaces or not sure what weren't available |
| 22:45.36 | pythonsnake | because I just rm ssh and purge openssh*, rebooted and it worked |
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| 22:46.28 | pythonsnake | wtf it doesn't work anymore |
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| 22:48.41 | Devastator | upgrading to jessie is going well so far.. |
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| 22:49.31 | pythonsnake | wtf... |
| 22:49.33 | pythonsnake | Devastator: lucky you |
| 22:49.44 | pythonsnake | kdog: got an ssh connection but it timed out randomly |
| 22:50.18 | pythonsnake | oh nvm it didn't |
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| 22:53.28 | pythonsnake | fixed it |
| 22:53.31 | pythonsnake | was stupid iptables |
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| 23:00.11 | kdog | pythonsnake: ugh. mental note: troubleshooting step #1: turn off iptables :-/ |
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| 23:00.55 | kdog | Devastator: What brand/model machine are you upgrading? |
| 23:00.56 | pythonsnake | yeah |
| 23:01.13 | cmtptr | or just actually open the port before you announce "ssh port is open" |
| 23:01.14 | Devastator | kdog a VM in this case |
| 23:02.04 | kdog | Devastator: what point are you at right now? |
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| 23:02.22 | Devastator | kdog upgrading tex packages |
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| 23:13.48 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
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| 23:23.28 | tytan | Hello, everyone. I can't install Debian 7.8 on my two 3TB WD Black. I create / and Swap as software RAID1 and at the end of the installation it sais it can't install grub :( |
| 23:23.42 | tytan | *says |
| 23:23.45 | somiaj | !fixmbr |
| 23:23.45 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
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| 23:24.25 | tytan | somiaj So I could install it on /dev/md0 ? |
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| 23:24.36 | somiaj | tytan: or what ever device you boot from. |
| 23:24.46 | somiaj | note you most likely need to have /boot outside the raid so it can be read during boot. |
| 23:25.22 | tytan | So it's better to create /, /boot and Swap? |
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| 23:26.19 | tytan | I'd end up having two separate /boot on each HDD then |
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| 23:26.48 | l31rb4g | hello guys :) |
| 23:26.59 | donofrio | anyone here know why debian7 netinstall would have a full gui, when I rebuild with debian8 netinstall xfce lightdm doesn't seem to be working correctly on my hw paste.debian.net/164330 |
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| 23:27.11 | somiaj | tytan: my experience is small here, but I think it depends on if it is hardware or software raid. |
| 23:27.25 | tytan | software |
| 23:27.39 | somiaj | tytan: as long as the bios can see the raid and see partitions inside of it it shoudl work. but some raid setups want /boot outside because you need to boot up so you have the software to read the raid |
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| 23:28.41 | tytan | Why is the installer failing to install grub at the end? |
| 23:29.09 | somiaj | donofrio: your paste is not working. Also what do you mean by 'have full gui' and what is not working. |
| 23:29.54 | somiaj | tytan: could be various things. If all that failed was grub installing, you can use a live system to boot into your system, and then run grub-install /dev/foo and try to debug any errors you get when it doesn't install |
| 23:30.25 | somiaj | or if it fails to install open up another console and try to install it manually. Not sure if it is an issue with how yous et up your raid or not (I just have no experience with raid beyond the idea of what it is) |
| 23:30.49 | tytan | Thanks for helping ^^ |
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| 23:32.40 | somiaj | tytan: but i nkow with lvm and think the same would be true for software raid, that if your bios cannot see the raid and you need to software to read it, you'll want /boot outside of the raid |
| 23:33.15 | tytan | How do I keep the both grubs in sync? |
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| 23:34.29 | tytan | In all videos I have seen they just created / and Swap as RAID partitions and everything was fine. Is it because I have 3TB disks? are they too big? |
| 23:34.31 | somiaj | tytan: depends on your setup, and also not sure if it matters with Raid1, since it is just a mirror, the disk itself might be readable on its own. |
| 23:34.36 | donofrio | I mean just the mouse moves |
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| 23:34.57 | somiaj | tytan: what type of partition tables are you using, gpt or mbr? |
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| 23:35.25 | somiaj | donofrio: you are talking about the graphical install correct? (I don't usually use this myself). |
| 23:35.45 | somiaj | donofrio: in which case I don't think the de matters. Or are you saing the de you choose doesn't work correctly after the install is over? |
| 23:35.51 | tytan | I don't know where do I decide that? |
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| 23:36.57 | Zerock | What's the difference between linux-generic and linux-image-generic? |
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| 23:38.02 | somiaj | tytan: mbr partitions can't be bigger than 2tb each, while gpt ones can be. using gpt partition tables add an extra issue if you choose to use mbr booting over efi booting (you actually need to make an mbr partition to put grub on) |
| 23:38.45 | tytan | Ok, how do I create those partitiontables in the installer? |
| 23:38.54 | tytan | Do I need to choose expert mode? |
| 23:39.10 | somiaj | Zerock: I am not finding packages by either of those names in debian. What os are you running? |
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| 23:39.58 | somiaj | tytan: that could be it. I usually use expert when I install and rember I had the option to pick. I chose to go with efi boot and created gpt with an efi partiton. But you can also create an mbr partition and have it boot in traditional mbr mode. |
| 23:40.06 | Zerock | somiaj: Debian on my current machine. Actually installing Trisquel on a spare machine. Trying to pick a kernel. I was fairly sure that they were packaged the same way. |
| 23:40.14 | somiaj | tytan: but with mbr, just don't make a single partition bigger than 2tb and I think you'll fine. |
| 23:40.14 | Zerock | Apologies, then. |
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| 23:40.38 | somiaj | Zerock: look at the actual package details, beyond that can't say much since I can't find the packages in debian to look at their details. (: |
| 23:41.15 | tytan | So 1GB /boot on each HDD, 3TB for / and 4GB for Swap |
| 23:41.46 | somiaj | tytan: you may not need a seperate boot with raid1 (since it is only a mirror). I'm unsure tehre, but 3tb will be to much for an mbr partition. |
| 23:41.48 | Zerock | Ahh, seems linux-image-* is only the image. linux-* includes the headers |
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| 23:42.14 | Bielecki | Hello |
| 23:42.20 | tytan | But I can't install grub on a gpt partition |
| 23:42.47 | adilix | thx cya bye bye |
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| 23:42.50 | somiaj | tytan: you can, you just need to have a mbr or efi partition created, and then grub will install there. The one you need depends on if you want your machien to use efi or legacy (mbr) boot |
| 23:43.19 | somiaj | tytan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table#Legacy_MBR_.28LBA_0.29 |
| 23:43.21 | tytan | And this depends on the bios, right? |
| 23:44.02 | somiaj | tytan: correct |
| 23:44.16 | Devastator | oh noes, debian hung during dist-upgrade :| |
| 23:44.18 | somiaj | tytan: most modering bios can do either. |
| 23:44.29 | somiaj | Devastator: where did it hang at? |
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| 23:44.40 | somiaj | Devastator: during the download, teh unpacking or the configuring? |
| 23:45.30 | Devastator | somiaj not really hanged, but it said it couldn't find grub installed on the MBR and asked me to choose where to install, I've chosen it and it stopped at "Generating grup configuration file..." |
| 23:45.36 | Devastator | s/grup/grub |
| 23:46.10 | somiaj | Devastator: what version of debian are you running? |
| 23:46.18 | Devastator | somiaj wheezy |
| 23:47.14 | somiaj | Devastator: What packages got upgraded? I can't think of anything obvious which could be the cause of your issue. |
| 23:47.41 | somiaj | also you really shouldn't need 'dist-upgades' in wheezy, just regular upgrades. But this shouldn't be an issue if y ou have only wheezy sources. |
| 23:47.42 | Devastator | somiaj it was in "setting up" phase, but I don't know for sure |
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| 23:49.01 | Devastator | somiaj it says: [ 3361.101191 ] INFO: task 10_linux:29052 blocked for more than 120 seconds. |
| 23:49.06 | Devastator | several messages like this one |
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| 23:51.00 | Devastator | should I just wait? |
| 23:51.20 | Devastator | I've followed "/msg dpkg wheezy->jessie" |
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| 23:51.24 | somiaj | Devastator: sounds like something is keeping that script (/etc/grub.d/10_linux) from reading or understanding your boot hardware. |
| 23:51.57 | somiaj | Devastator: oh so y ou are upgradeing from wheezy to jessie, that makes more sense. I don't know what the issue is, but something is preventing the script to run to generate your boot options. |
| 23:52.11 | somiaj | I can't say what the issue could be, you don't see any other errors in dmesg from another terminal? |
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| 23:56.34 | Devastator | somiaj killed the process and it seems to be upgrading the rest |
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| 23:56.50 | Devastator | stuck at irqbalance now heheh |
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