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| 00:42.49 | choki | why is xterm 256 color not working? i tried like in this article https://push.cx/2008/256-color-xterms-in-ubuntu |
| 00:42.59 | choki | still no 256 color support |
| 00:43.03 | choki | tput colors |
| 00:43.15 | choki | 8 |
| 00:43.37 | choki | my zshrc does have the line export TERM='xterm-256color' |
| 00:43.58 | choki | xterm stupid thing ever |
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| 00:57.29 | lisco | somiaj: thank you :) |
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| 00:59.15 | choki | wtf |
| 00:59.49 | choki | somiaj: u must be a helpful nsa agent! :D |
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| 01:32.37 | Ooze | guys |
| 01:32.38 | Ooze | guess |
| 01:32.39 | Ooze | what |
| 01:32.51 | Ooze | Server's been up ~7 hours with the lid off |
| 01:33.11 | Ooze | I think it's been overheating, but I'd have thought there should be better airflow with the chasis all together |
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| 01:52.22 | dgriffi | I'm trying to install using a preseed.cfg file. In the preseed, I want to install some packages from wheezy-backports. How do I express that in the preseed file? |
| 01:52.29 | dgriffi | my preseed file is seen here: https://661.org/articles/flashinstall.html |
| 01:53.05 | dgriffi | specifically, I want to install MATE. this preseed used to work when the mate packages were at mate-desktop.org |
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| 02:06.03 | un214 | has anybody else seen that strange sound hangup w/ rdesktop |
| 02:06.26 | un214 | I should file a bug not sure which package |
| 02:07.17 | un214 | what the heck try pulseaudio |
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| 03:02.42 | dgriffi | has anyone here been able to get wheezy-backports working with preseeding? |
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| 03:04.33 | dgriffi | I have d-i apt-setup/backports boolean true in the preseed, but it doesn't seem to get picked up |
| 03:04.37 | dgriffi | anyone? |
| 03:05.54 | dgriffi | is anyone even awake in her? |
| 03:05.56 | dgriffi | here? |
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| 03:17.42 | drocsid | I'm trying to build a debian package. I get dependency problems that a package isn't installed by the pbuilder... |
| 03:18.48 | drocsid | dpkg: pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: dependency problems, but configuring anyway as you requested: |
| 03:18.48 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, drocsid |
| 03:19.21 | drocsid | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.35 | drocsid | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:19.43 | dgriffi | does anyone here understand preseed files? |
| 03:19.52 | drocsid | why isn't pbuilder installing these packages? |
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| 04:08.45 | antion | i need a website on my VPS to be able to send registration emails, where do i start? |
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| 04:10.51 | Rusty1 | antion: what is the server, ie apache? |
| 04:11.02 | antion | yes |
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| 04:11.23 | antion | concrete5 is the cms |
| 04:11.23 | Rusty1 | antion: /join #httpd , and ask there as well |
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| 04:11.51 | antion | it would need to send mail via php mail() |
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| 04:12.16 | Rusty1 | there's ##php as too |
| 04:12.55 | antion | ok, but im trying to set it up on debian, its not a php or webserver problem ;) |
| 04:13.46 | Rusty1 | ok, ask there , wait here , up to you |
| 04:14.02 | antion | yey |
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| 04:18.12 | antion | why does a mailserver NEED to have a DNS? |
| 04:20.00 | Shadow_7 | because 1 IP address could host thousands of mail servers. |
| 04:20.21 | antion | cant it just be a blind ip in space hurling out emails at other IPs? |
| 04:20.31 | antion | so? |
| 04:20.43 | antion | theres tons of spam anyway |
| 04:21.18 | Shadow_7 | Hosting companies reserve independent IPs to their top payers. |
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| 04:22.14 | antion | i have an "independent" IP |
| 04:22.24 | antion | its unique and i pay for it |
| 04:22.43 | buu | And most IPs send out spam |
| 04:22.54 | buu | Its a sad life. |
| 04:22.56 | antion | i just dont have a DNS to go with my IP |
| 04:23.14 | Shadow_7 | If you don't have a DNS name for it, and two companies use it, corporate secrets could fall into the wrong hands. |
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| 04:23.52 | buu | Well, I mean, smtp doesn't require a domain name to send email |
| 04:23.52 | antion | how can two companies use my IP address man? |
| 04:24.08 | Shadow_7 | You can always setup bogus names in /etc/hosts for localized DNS |
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| 04:24.37 | buu | antion: You know there are lots of free dns providers right? |
| 04:25.04 | antion | that is true |
| 04:25.07 | antion | haha |
| 04:25.16 | antion | and they allow email? |
| 04:25.27 | antion | can u recommend one? |
| 04:26.38 | buu | Allow? |
| 04:26.46 | buu | They just provide domain name lookups |
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| 04:27.23 | antion | so i can abuse a free dns provider to send any amount of shit to anyone? |
| 04:27.44 | antion | sounds sketchy or i am not understanding something right ^^ |
| 04:28.05 | antion | email sounds like ancient technology to me atm |
| 04:28.20 | buu | Maybe you should go understand what 'dns' actually means first. |
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| 04:29.57 | antion | it translates domain names to ips right |
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| 04:33.37 | antion | DNS has also seen use in combating unsolicited email (spam) by using a real-time blackhole list stored in a DNS database |
| 04:34.21 | antion | so they dont "allow" it. maybe u should look it up hahaha |
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| 04:39.55 | danwomanlap | so I had the option of either installing debian jessie 32-bit or early debian wheezy 64-bit and I decided to just do the latter and dist-upgrade |
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| 04:40.12 | danwomanlap | I think my disc is like, 7.2? |
| 04:40.51 | danwomanlap | or something like that |
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| 04:43.47 | danwomanlap | it's just beautiful when x no longer works properly, apt wants to autoremove all of your packages, and you just finished being locked out by display manager conflicts |
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| 05:19.11 | irkdoe | Jihad across to have penetrated sperm, and may being before is seeing to usiness experiences. |
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| 05:19.51 | DalekSec | !ops irkdoe is about to be a spamming. |
| 05:19.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: daleksec complains about: irkdoe is about to be a spamming. |
| 05:19.51 | irkdoe | Caliph'? |
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| 05:20.05 | irkdoe | porn. Isis have to Omar not throught cominent on their networks and the world. It have sociated on the respection method of motile surveys during withdrawal. By 2012. |
| 05:21.14 | DalekSec | Welp, sorry. |
| 05:21.32 | themill | thanks, DalekSec |
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| 05:23.29 | DalekSec | Sure. |
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| 06:17.47 | independent | hello anyone here? |
| 06:19.42 | independent | ive just made debian sid under latest kernel and installed latest intel video drivers on it (x64) I used many other distributions repositories. |
| 06:20.33 | independent | I'm willing to make my own DISTRIBUTION of it, any advices? |
| 06:21.12 | independent | I also added a couple of kali linux tools |
| 06:21.33 | GPenguin | independent: have a look at Siduction |
| 06:21.49 | GPenguin | its kind of a rolling release of Debian Sid |
| 06:22.11 | GPenguin | where you can install your "kali" package list |
| 06:22.55 | independent | lol |
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| 06:23.11 | independent | i just added kali main repos and installed them one by one |
| 06:23.20 | independent | (the tools) |
| 06:23.41 | GPenguin | so what is your actual problem? |
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| 06:23.58 | independent | making an iso of my actual linux |
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| 06:26.45 | GPenguin | that sounds easier than it actually is because you cant just copy data |
| 06:27.04 | GPenguin | you kind of need to remaster a livecd and merge your config in |
| 06:27.43 | independent | what linux program do you recommend? |
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| 06:28.58 | independent | for making something like that |
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| 06:29.51 | GPenguin | several years ago i would have pointed you to the knoppix tutorial for remastering a livecd and there i would configure my sources.list to use Sid repositories and add the kali packages |
| 06:30.21 | GPenguin | but i am not sure how up to date the guide is |
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| 06:31.59 | GPenguin | you can still try it: http://knoppix.net/wiki3/index.php?title=Knoppix_Remastering_Howto |
| 06:32.22 | independent | Any suggestions of distro name I could use? |
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| 06:32.44 | GPenguin | no :) |
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| 06:34.33 | independent | so far I guess sid is the most stable distro |
| 06:34.48 | independent | it works fast |
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| 06:35.02 | Lirion | you can name it what you want - it will remain your private project with 99% probability. also consider using a list of packages to be installed by hand plus some versioning system for you rconfig files, rids you of the question how to create a "distro" of your own |
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| 06:36.03 | Lirion | the knoppix guide is a neat thing to look at, also you may start here: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller |
| 06:36.07 | GPenguin | if you like Sid i would use Siduction to base on because they do the work of flattening the edges and glitches |
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| 06:36.44 | Lirion | <-- this |
| 06:39.40 | independent | command to add gpg key of siduction? |
| 06:39.43 | GPenguin | !grml |
| 06:39.44 | dpkg | grml is a bootable CD (Live CD) originally <based on> Knoppix, now Debian. It includes a collection of GNU/Linux software especially for users of text tools and system administrators. It can be used as a rescue system, for analyzing systems/networks or as a working environment. http://grml.org/ #grml on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 06:40.42 | Lirion | :) |
| 06:41.08 | Lirion | independent if you know nothing about gpg keys vs package systems, do you think it's the best idea to start with creating a whole distro? |
| 06:41.41 | independent | well there is a start to anything |
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| 06:43.34 | independent | I started wth windoze |
| 06:43.47 | independent | now im pretty good with linux |
| 06:43.47 | Lirion | the start is reading guides. gpenguin pointed you to one, i showed you one, these two aren't necessarily exactly what you need. plus you should read about the sid philosophy and its current specific weaknesses (which by the way alter vividly). |
| 06:43.55 | Lirion | grab yourself a cup of tea and read |
| 06:44.09 | Lirion | doing my first rescue live image for a usb stick was some heck of a work |
| 06:44.20 | Lirion | and I still do no distros (never felt the need, it's all out there) |
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| 06:45.53 | Lirion | i started with DOS and win95 :) but doing linux since 2005 and i'm still a beginner :) |
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| 06:46.14 | independent | I'm a programmer |
| 06:47.12 | independent | I'm quite good at programming mIRC scripts |
| 06:47.21 | Lirion | o.ô |
| 06:47.28 | Lirion | then you're no programmer, you're a scripter. |
| 06:47.48 | Lirion | and mIRC is not what I'd call the most secure |
| 06:47.52 | Lirion | but anyway |
| 06:48.07 | independent | http://pastebin.com/feRqjqda |
| 06:48.10 | Lirion | as a "programmer" you sure know that you can't create games before knowing about loops and pointers. |
| 06:48.19 | independent | <= thats one of my script |
| 06:48.24 | Lirion | so it is with a distro - you have to know the essentials before. |
| 06:49.17 | independent | http://pastebin.com/u/independentt for all my things |
| 06:51.45 | independent | I like the NCRACK bot i made |
| 06:51.47 | independent | :P |
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| 07:17.59 | Skyrider | I'm about to reinstall my VPS soon, but it leaves me with a question. Last time I installed Ubuntu, it used the twice as memory as Debian does. Anyone happen to know why? |
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| 07:25.57 | superlinux | hi. I am lookinng for a service that logs the changes or the deletion time of files in a partition. please recommend me one. thanks |
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| 07:35.59 | superlinux | hi. I am lookinng for a service that logs the changes or the deletion time of files in a partition. please recommend me one. thanks |
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| 08:41.59 | Skyrider | ello (again) |
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| 08:42.10 | Skyrider | So, I reinstalled debian seeing I'm used to that anyway.. sorry ubuntu folks.. |
| 08:42.19 | Skyrider | But now I wonder if I should install 32 or 64Bit of debian. |
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| 08:42.50 | Skyrider | Having 2GB ram, and 1GB swap. I'm aware of the 32/64b difference. |
| 08:42.58 | Skyrider | Just unsure what it would differ server wise. |
| 08:44.14 | superlinux | Skyrider, if you are planning/expecting to go over 4GB RAM then you must have 64bit |
| 08:44.19 | babilen | On that box it probably doesn't make much of a difference, unless you want to move it to different hardware in the future. I'd probably use i386 on that whereas I'd default to amd64 on less ancient hardware |
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| 08:44.35 | Skyrider | Currently stuck on 2Gb, doubt I'll go above that. |
| 08:44.51 | Skyrider | While 64B is supported, and have it currently installed.. |
| 08:44.59 | Skyrider | Wondering if I should just go to 32B instead. |
| 08:45.38 | superlinux | also if your server needs to do high precision calculations bigger than 32bit then you'll need 64bit |
| 08:46.13 | Skyrider | I assume it can do no harm just sticking with 64b? regardless of my 2GB ram. For windows, I'd choose 64b regardless.. |
| 08:46.15 | babilen | just repeats what he said earlier :) |
| 08:46.24 | Skyrider | But I'm aware of on how packages acts... |
| 08:46.39 | Skyrider | I'm not that much familiar with linux and the 32/64b software behavior. |
| 08:46.59 | Skyrider | **aware? I mean curious |
| 08:47.14 | superlinux | you can have 32/64 hybrid system on debian |
| 08:47.33 | Skyrider | Take vine? I believe its called, for example. |
| 08:47.49 | Skyrider | Some software just refuse to run due to it being a 32b application. |
| 08:48.01 | superlinux | it will be a 64bit system, then you'll add the i386 repository |
| 08:48.03 | Skyrider | Hard some issues changing it to 64b. |
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| 08:48.13 | Skyrider | Indeed, though vine didn't really play along./ |
| 08:48.21 | babilen | 64 bit systems will use more RAM |
| 08:48.26 | superlinux | vine or wine? |
| 08:48.38 | Skyrider | wine, that's it :D |
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| 08:48.41 | Skyrider | Forgot the name ^^ |
| 08:49.18 | Amun_Ra | there is also x32 architecture :> |
| 08:49.23 | superlinux | Skyrider, which apps you want to run on wine? you can find an alternative |
| 08:49.42 | Skyrider | This app isn't commonly used, seeing it's a remote app of a game server. |
| 08:50.10 | Amun_Ra | I'm using for those cases virtual windows guest |
| 08:50.10 | Skyrider | Besides, the app is also unstable.. so currently not running wine.. but merely an example. |
| 08:50.24 | superlinux | ah games! Linux is not *usually* for games. it can run some though |
| 08:50.45 | esu | like tetris |
| 08:50.48 | superlinux | I always tell people go for a playstation.. and your done! |
| 08:50.50 | Skyrider | remote application FOR a game server, not playing a game :) |
| 08:51.04 | Skyrider | You know, like hlsw. |
| 08:51.10 | Skyrider | or the dead all seeing eye. |
| 08:51.23 | hhmmm | you run games on you vps? |
| 08:51.36 | superlinux | I know some games.. but not following up lately |
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| 08:51.54 | Skyrider | This application is not a game itself, merely a tool to view the chats, map overview, etc. |
| 08:51.57 | Skyrider | It's hardly a game. |
| 08:52.17 | Skyrider | And yes, I'm running a game on my vps. Works just fine. |
| 08:52.21 | Skyrider | **gameserver. |
| 08:53.01 | hhmmm | oh and it works already on 64 bit |
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| 08:53.15 | Skyrider | In either case.. |
| 08:53.24 | superlinux | Skyrider, anyways.. just run 32bit it's just fine according to what you have |
| 08:53.24 | Skyrider | Choosing between debian/ubuntu is something I find difficult.. I hate choices. |
| 08:54.19 | superlinux | debian adores and adheres to stability. |
| 08:54.48 | superlinux | ubuntu gives you the latest versions usually |
| 08:55.04 | Skyrider | That I'm aware :), I'm more aiming to less memory/cpu usage. |
| 08:56.04 | hiexpo | do a netinstall only install what you need and only boot with minimal processes |
| 08:56.06 | superlinux | then use the commands `free` and `top` to monitor the system. see how the memory works |
| 08:56.25 | Skyrider | I have minimal installed. |
| 08:56.43 | hiexpo | ^ superlinux |
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| 08:56.50 | hiexpo | look at top |
| 08:57.46 | superlinux | you can install `collectd` to monitor the system using a web page having graphs |
| 08:57.57 | superlinux | collectd is very nice |
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| 08:59.36 | superlinux | Skyrider, there is also conky to monitor in realtime the system on a graphical interface |
| 08:59.47 | Skyrider | conky? |
| 08:59.51 | superlinux | yes |
| 09:01.13 | superlinux | Skyrider, your server is a vps? |
| 09:01.30 | Skyrider | Yes |
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| 09:02.01 | superlinux | if you want , I haven't tried it, but see if you can run Xorg using VNC |
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| 09:02.26 | superlinux | and install something simple like openbox |
| 09:03.21 | superlinux | Skyrider, another simpler idea would be making a username whose login shell the `top` command |
| 09:04.06 | superlinux | so you just once you login the `top` will only run on the terminal |
| 09:05.06 | superlinux | nothing else will run. if you quit `top` the syste |
| 09:05.14 | superlinux | nothing else will run. if you quit `top` , it will logout |
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| 09:05.51 | superlinux | Skyrider, still there? |
| 09:06.05 | Skyrider | I am, reinstalling a bunch of stuff :) |
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| 09:07.23 | superlinux | Skyrider, look how you do the login to `top`. the follwing is a line for my useraname entry in /etc/passwd |
| 09:07.26 | superlinux | superlinux:x:1000:1000:superlinux,,,:/home/superlinux:/bin/bash |
| 09:07.51 | superlinux | you just change the `bash` to: |
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| 09:08.25 | superlinux | superlinux:x:1000:1000:superlinux,,,:/home/superlinux:/usr/bin/top |
| 09:08.41 | Skyrider | I assume change the username and home directory. |
| 09:08.45 | superlinux | and save the file /etc/passwd |
| 09:09.37 | superlinux | Skyrider, the username ,yes you change it of course. the home dir will be ineffective |
| 09:10.22 | superlinux | and even it will be in active |
| 09:10.29 | superlinux | *inactive |
| 09:11.00 | superlinux | you can try it now on your desktop and the real terminal |
| 09:11.18 | Skyrider | desktop? |
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| 09:27.49 | Cullz_etc | anyone using MATE desktop environment with Jessie? any major issues? |
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| 09:58.52 | adc | Cullz_etc: I'm occasionally using it, and it works great for me |
| 09:59.27 | Cullz_etc | adc: cool. I'm going to try it out. Unhappy with gnome classic since upgrading to testing |
| 10:00.16 | Skyrider | What's the difference between Debian 7 and Debian 7 Minimal? |
| 10:00.22 | independent | I prefer LXDE over anything. |
| 10:00.26 | Skyrider | What packages / etc are being left out in minimal? |
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| 10:01.14 | Cullz_etc | independent: I like LXDE too but had a few issues; bluetooth, monitor backlight, etc |
| 10:01.40 | independent | what about lxqt? |
| 10:02.38 | Skyrider | ...... I hate this, really do. |
| 10:02.48 | Skyrider | error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key |
| 10:02.51 | Skyrider | and a bunch of other errors.. |
| 10:03.00 | Skyrider | I re-created those keys, on a FRESH debian install |
| 10:03.02 | Skyrider | yet it whines instantly. |
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| 10:03.37 | independent | damn I just ./crunch'ed 10GB in 2 minutes |
| 10:03.39 | independent | lol |
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| 10:07.17 | independent | is 500000 lines read per seconds a good rate for an I3 1st generation, when using pyrit? |
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| 10:12.28 | High_Priest | hi guys, anyone here knows how to set user which transmission-daemon runs under? It's on debian 8 |
| 10:13.10 | valdyn | High_Priest: see the init script |
| 10:15.07 | High_Priest | I did |
| 10:15.22 | High_Priest | it ignores the setting from there and runs under debian-transmission user |
| 10:17.23 | valdyn | High_Priest: your init system is systemd? |
| 10:18.00 | High_Priest | how do I check this? |
| 10:18.29 | valdyn | High_Priest: good question, i dont know the canonical way, if theres one |
| 10:18.31 | High_Priest | this is a media center, running on raspi2 so I haven't installed it myself |
| 10:18.35 | valdyn | High_Priest: run "systemctl status" |
| 10:18.53 | valdyn | High_Priest: and run "systemctl status transmission-daemon" |
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| 10:22.09 | valdyn | High_Priest: and the equivalent to the init script is in debian: /etc/systemd/system/multi-user.target.wants/transmission-daemon.service except you should *not* edit that file directly. |
| 10:23.03 | High_Priest | http://paste.debian.net/164880/ |
| 10:23.18 | High_Priest | http://paste.debian.net/164881/ |
| 10:23.26 | valdyn | High_Priest: youre running systemd then, yes |
| 10:23.55 | High_Priest | oh I see that init script |
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| 10:24.02 | High_Priest | it has the user which gives me troubles |
| 10:24.14 | High_Priest | ok if I can't edit it directly - how do I edit it? |
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| 10:24.54 | valdyn | High_Priest: its just a symlink to a regular (meaning: not config file) file |
| 10:25.01 | High_Priest | ahaaa |
| 10:25.07 | valdyn | High_Priest: the symlink however is config, so you can remove the symlink |
| 10:25.15 | valdyn | High_Priest: and copy your modified script there |
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| 10:25.53 | valdyn | High_Priest: then you run "systemctl daemon-reload" |
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| 10:30.06 | valdyn | High_Priest: even though osmc may be based on debian, i dont know if it uses debian packaging for updates and if it respects the changes you're doing properly, as debian does. |
| 10:30.20 | High_Priest | thanks a bunch valdyn |
| 10:30.29 | High_Priest | it's working fine now |
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| 11:39.38 | littlebit | hi poeple, I have been tryin to setup an isc-dhcp-relay which appeared to me simple and straight forward with the configuration but it isn't working. I have a i386 machine that connects to my router via wlan (wlan0) and feeds my switch with it's ethernet port (eth0). My question is that my clients that are hocked up onto my switch dont receive any ip from my router. And when running the daemon in foreground, I get this message "Discarding |
| 11:39.39 | littlebit | packet received on eth0 interface that has no IPv4 address assigned." . can someone help? |
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| 11:40.50 | Roland- | hey is thre a way to completely forward traffic from an interface to another |
| 11:40.56 | Roland- | and more important vice versa |
| 11:40.57 | Roland- | ? |
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| 11:49.18 | Cueball | So what's the recommended FS these days? I'm currently using ext4. Which at least for large volumes is anoying when doing large delete tasks. |
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| 11:50.28 | valdyn | Cueball: thats probably configurable |
| 11:50.42 | valdyn | Cueball: unless you have both, alot of tiny and alot of huge files |
| 11:51.08 | valdyn | Cueball: xfs may have better worst case performance, b/c that is what is made for |
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| 11:51.30 | Cueball | valdyn: My storage has a good mixture of large and small. |
| 11:51.44 | valdyn | Cueball: xfs |
| 11:52.44 | Cueball | valdyn: Shall give that a go. I did want to run ZFS but I first need to re-install my box as 64bit |
| 11:53.19 | valdyn | Cueball: but really, for huge data storage where the data is actually valuable, none of these is ok |
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| 11:56.01 | valdyn | Cueball: hmm, xfs can do crc, so its ok. I dont think ext4 can do crc |
| 11:56.38 | valdyn | Cueball: oh, but i read this is only for metadata.... |
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| 12:02.24 | littlebit | anyone? |
| 12:02.39 | Funambuli | hi |
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| 12:03.05 | ztealmax | hi all |
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| 12:05.28 | ztealmax | having an issue, trying to install AMD Proprietary driver in debian, however it failes on dkms, anyone got a list of all the pre-requisites needed? im on Debian 8 |
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| 12:08.27 | towo_nb | ztealmax, try the driver from experimental |
| 12:08.47 | ztealmax | tried that didnt work im affraid |
| 12:09.00 | towo_nb | the jessie driver is 14.9 i dn't think, it's supports kernel 3.16 |
| 12:09.16 | towo_nb | then paste the buildlog |
| 12:09.33 | ztealmax | ok one min |
| 12:09.35 | ztealmax | :) |
| 12:11.24 | ztealmax | here is the log: http://pastebin.com/NiUCeWBt |
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| 12:12.51 | towo` | ztealmax, have you the kernel-headers installed for your running kernel? |
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| 12:13.30 | Cullz__etc | What is the safest way to remove desktop environments without breaking stuff? |
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| 12:14.08 | towo` | Cullz__etc, using apt or aptitude |
| 12:14.18 | ztealmax | towo: it says i have: linux-headers-amd64 is installed |
| 12:14.30 | towo` | ztealmax, uname -a |
| 12:14.48 | petn-randall | littlebit: Does eth0 have an IPv4 address assigned then? |
| 12:15.01 | ztealmax | towo: Linux Prometheus 3.16-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.3-2 (2014-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 12:15.35 | towo` | ztealmax, apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) gives you what? |
| 12:15.39 | littlebit | petn-randall: wlan0 is:10.0.0.12 255.255.255.0 and eth0 is: 10.0.1.254 255.255.255.0 |
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| 12:15.57 | Cullz__etc | towo`: thanks, in apt would it be better to do 'remove' or 'purge' ? |
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| 12:16.11 | ztealmax | towo: couldnt find package linux-headers-3.16-2-amd64 |
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| 12:16.20 | towo` | Cullz__etc, use purge if configs also should be gone |
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| 12:17.36 | towo` | ztealmax, apt-get install linux-image-amd64 |
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| 12:20.14 | ztealmax | towo: installed linux-image-amd64 |
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| 12:21.17 | towo` | ztealmax, now you should have linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 and linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 installed |
| 12:21.31 | towo` | ztealmax, after reboot dkms should be able to build fglrx |
| 12:22.15 | ztealmax | towo: ohh great :D cheers m8 gonna test , ill log back and post if it worked, thank you :) |
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| 12:39.28 | Cullz__etc | is there an irc command to not see when people leave and join the channel |
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| 12:40.17 | jhuebner | cullz__etc: depends on your client |
| 12:40.38 | Cullz__etc | jhuebner: webchat |
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| 12:45.51 | jhuebner | probably not then |
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| 13:15.23 | sadtaco | My disk suddenly got eaten up and I'm trying to figure out why. 5.7 GB in /var 4.3gb in /usr/share /root/.forever 4.6G that's full of logs. How can I empty them? "sudo rm /root/.forever/*" doesn't |
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| 13:17.47 | themill | sadtaco: space for deleted files doesn't get freed until nothing has the files open -- you normally need to either HUP or restart daemons to have them rotate their log files properly |
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| 13:20.22 | sadtaco | Hm think i got it |
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| 14:19.03 | Ooze | jelly, so get this |
| 14:19.09 | Ooze | And whoever else has been on the ride for the past week |
| 14:19.21 | Ooze | Only running one server, the one that's been rebooting all week |
| 14:19.31 | Ooze | Took the lid off and all the fans seem to be running |
| 14:19.38 | Ooze | Was up for like 9 hours or something, doing well |
| 14:19.50 | Ooze | As soon as I added something to rutorrent it reboots |
| 14:20.05 | Ooze | So again, this morning I ssh in to see how long it's been up last night |
| 14:20.11 | Ooze | Right after I put in my credentials, it reboots |
| 14:20.32 | Ooze | Would these things really raise the temp enough for it to overheat? If not I'm not sure heating is the issue anymore |
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| 14:21.44 | Samouy | Hello there , is anyone experienced some trouble with permission to use his scanner ? I have to sudo xsane to detect the device after adding the lines in /etc/sane.d/epson2.conf |
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| 14:22.50 | Samouy | And now I have to chmod a+w /dev/bus/usb/.../... , and it works without being root |
| 14:23.16 | Samouy | my user is in the sane group |
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| 14:34.56 | ovrh | Hello |
| 14:35.00 | valdyn | Samouy: try the plugdev group |
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| 14:36.09 | ovrh | Pardon me if I bother but I'd need some help enabling the testing repo on debian 7.8 |
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| 14:37.15 | ovrh | I followed this: https://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing, but then, trying to install something, the only response from aptitude was: "`0 packages to instal, 267 to remove`, something like 833MB of things to remove" |
| 14:37.30 | ovrh | Did I mess something up? |
| 14:37.38 | mtn | ovrh: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 14:38.20 | ovrh | mtn: I don't want to break it, I just need to install gtk+ and gtkmm from the testing repo since the versions in the stable one are too old |
| 14:38.47 | centrx | ovrh, The general correct answer to that StackOverflow question is "Don't" |
| 14:38.48 | ovrh | *libgtk-3-dev and libgtkmm-3-dev |
| 14:38.55 | mtn | ovrh: read the link, that is not how you do it. you need to use backports if possible, or backport it yourself |
| 14:38.57 | centrx | ovrh, upgrade to testing/jessie in entirety |
| 14:39.00 | centrx | ovrh, or use backports |
| 14:41.13 | ovrh | And backports will be |
| 14:41.19 | ovrh | Thanks for pointing this out |
| 14:41.38 | somiaj | ovrh: why do you need gtk upgraded? Upgrading a core lib like that could have lots of conesquences in wheezy, and the backport won't be easy to make. |
| 14:42.07 | ovrh | somiaj: I need it for development. The stable repository has gtk 3.6, that is 3 years old |
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| 14:42.59 | somiaj | ovrh: that is because stable is frozen. You can develop and build things in a jessie chroot, but if y ou want to test might want to just run a jessie vm to develop in. |
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| 14:44.13 | ovrh | somiaj: I am running a VM actually. Installed for the sole purpose of developing with gtk/gtkmm |
| 14:44.32 | centrx | ovrh, ok I would upgrade to jessie |
| 14:45.20 | ovrh | centrx: Isn't jessie the latest version? I mean, I have 7.8 (whose codename I have no idea what is) |
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| 14:45.48 | somiaj | ovrh: then backup the vm, upgrade to jessie. If the goal of the vm is to develop and you need to develop on a more modern system use jessie (jessie is frozen so developing for it is nice in that it is frozen). It will be released sometime. |
| 14:45.50 | centrx | ovrh, jessie is currently in testing, it is the next version of Debian, to be released probably Apr 25 |
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| 14:46.50 | ovrh | Oh okay, so the 8 will be jessie. Sorry, it has been long since last time I used Debian (it was wheezy at the time) |
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| 14:47.21 | centrx | yes, 7.x is wheezy, 8.x will be jessie |
| 14:47.23 | pfred1 | ovrh Wheezy is current stable |
| 14:47.38 | donofrio | morning all, anyone here use PowerPC MacMini's with Debian8? |
| 14:47.38 | ovrh | somiaj: I guess dist-upgrade won't do the trick, right? |
| 14:47.47 | somiaj | ovrh: wheezy is the current stable, but it was frozen and then released a while ago. |
| 14:47.58 | ovrh | centrx: So it wasn't even wheezy, it was 6.0 the last one I used, pardon |
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| 14:48.06 | somiaj | ovrh: it will, /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie (it can break hence my suggestio to make a backup fifrst) |
| 14:48.17 | pfred1 | ovrh 6 was Squeeze |
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| 14:48.23 | centrx | squeezy mcjessie |
| 14:48.39 | somiaj | donofrio: not a very good question, but the ppc port has their own support channel on irc.oftc.net (#debian-ppc I think) |
| 14:48.49 | ovrh | Too many names, too many "ee", sorry |
| 14:49.18 | pfred1 | ovrh there was Rexx Hamm and Lenny too |
| 14:49.36 | pfred1 | oh and Bo who remembers Bo? |
| 14:49.47 | ovrh | somiaj: honestly it won't be a problem if it will break. I mean, there's nothing installed nor stored in it apart from firefox and some updates. But I think I will make a backup anyway |
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| 14:50.08 | pfred1 | who be Boo? |
| 14:50.22 | centrx | potato |
| 14:50.24 | somiaj | I think it was Bo, wasn't that the first or second release? |
| 14:51.44 | pfred1 | Bo was a bit before my time I think |
| 14:51.48 | pfred1 | but not much |
| 14:52.21 | centrx | I thought rexx was the first release, but it was buzz lightyear of course |
| 14:52.25 | pfred1 | started running Linux in 1995 |
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| 14:53.11 | pfred1 | Debian was sorta rough back then though |
| 14:53.26 | pfred1 | dselect used to make me break out in a cold sweat |
| 14:53.27 | dselect | pfred1: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 14:53.55 | pfred1 | I see dselect is still having that effect on me now! |
| 14:53.57 | centrx | I thought rexx was the first release, but it was buzz lightyear of course |
| 14:54.03 | centrx | woops |
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| 14:54.23 | ahmadi | Hi , I Am looking for botnet , does anyone can help ?! skype: ankassis |
| 14:54.28 | pfred1 | gawd i used to hate that horrible piece of scripting |
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| 14:56.55 | ovrh | Guys, what are the "stable-specific lines" dpkg asks me to remove from `sources.list`? |
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| 14:58.26 | donofrio | somiaj: wonder why they have there own irc server and channel when its still used? |
| 14:59.35 | mtn | ovrh: the lines that say stable or wheezy |
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| 15:01.20 | Samouy | valdyn, my user is on plugdev too |
| 15:01.49 | ovrh | mtn there aren't lines who say "stable", and dpkg says to change the one with wheezy into jessie |
| 15:02.11 | mtn | ovrh: ok, so that is all you need to do ;) |
| 15:02.20 | ovrh | mtn: Oh cool, thanks |
| 15:03.26 | somiaj | donofrio: debian's offical irc network is oftc, and there are channels there for more specifific things. i.e. you may find better answers to ppc questions tehre as you may find someone who uses it more regularaly then here. |
| 15:03.43 | donofrio | somiaj: looks like a dead channel no one in the room and no topic |
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| 15:04.13 | donofrio | I'm on OFTC and no one in #debian-ppc....)-: |
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| 15:06.23 | mtn | donofrio: try it without the - |
| 15:07.11 | mtn | donofrio: google and the wiki had the answer ;) |
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| 15:11.18 | somiaj | donofrio: sorry looks like I remebered the room wrong, I should have looked it up |
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| 15:28.00 | W3ird_N3rd | I want to configure the package mirror afterwards, not during setup.. how? (I know sources.list but what do I add?) |
| 15:28.10 | W3ird_N3rd | jessie btw |
| 15:28.19 | somiaj | !jessie sources |
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| 15:28.46 | somiaj | !jessie sources.list |
| 15:28.46 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 15:30.08 | W3ird_N3rd | thanks! |
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| 15:31.42 | W3ird_N3rd | although as the setup suggests, I'll probably replace the host with http://ftp.<yourcountrycode>.debian.org |
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| 15:33.46 | somiaj | W3ird_N3rd: use http.debian.net, it is a better redirector than the old ftp.<country code>.debian.org names |
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| 15:34.10 | somiaj | !http.debian.net |
| 15:34.11 | dpkg | To have <APT> automatically select a mirror geographically close to you, you can use a Geo-IP service from http.debian.net. An example line for your sources.list is "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main". See http://http.debian.net/ for more information. Unlike <cdn.debian.net>, it is safe to use with Google DNS etc because it uses HTTP 302 redirects. See also <which http.debian.net>. |
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| 15:36.24 | W3ird_N3rd | somiaj, thanks, I'll take a look at that. RC1 setup is still suggesting to use ftp.countrycode though. |
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| 15:37.36 | somiaj | Either works, the country code redirectors are just not suggested anymore. Both work, I was just explaining why the newer sources.list suggest http.debian.net |
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| 15:38.15 | W3ird_N3rd | somiaj, will this not be messy when used with apt-cacher-ng? (if I get the file from a different mirror every time it might re-download it for every client?) |
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| 15:39.36 | somiaj | W3ird_N3rd: I don't think so, it gives you a mirror based on your geoIP location so I would assume some consistancy. I have no experience to back it up. Though if there is an issue with using that I would file a bug so it is known. |
| 15:39.45 | Rust3dCor3 | hi. i need a console music player that will work not on tags but on m3u playlists or folders. any suggestions? |
| 15:40.12 | somiaj | Rust3dCor3: mplayer is what I use, though if you only have mp3s or oggs, mpg321 or ogg123 are both suitable. |
| 15:40.29 | jj15 | Hi guys. Iâd like to buid a custom Debian image that is set up exactly how I need it, so I can then use that to image all of my devices. Could I install the netboot on a VM, install and setup what I need, then create an image from that? Or are there other more conventional ways of doing this? |
| 15:40.37 | W3ird_N3rd | mplayer -playlist rickastley.m3u |
| 15:40.58 | Rust3dCor3 | w3ird_N3rd: what about folders? |
| 15:41.10 | somiaj | Rust3dCor3: mplayer filelist |
| 15:41.16 | Rust3dCor3 | ok |
| 15:41.39 | somiaj | Rust3dCor3: it also plays videos, it can play thme in a framebuffer, or just open a window if you are running from a terminal in xorg. |
| 15:41.41 | htqp | !live | jj15 |
| 15:41.43 | W3ird_N3rd | somiaj, I just took a look at the demo and it would redirect me to one of two mirrors (the suggestion being it selects one at random for loadbalancing) |
| 15:42.10 | W3ird_N3rd | I wouldn't expect it to be a problem, but I don't know how apt-cacher-ng detects if it already has a package (hopefully not based on mirror in this case) |
| 15:42.27 | cast | jj15: does your golden image undergo updates? |
| 15:42.39 | jj15 | No. |
| 15:43.32 | somiaj | W3ird_N3rd: the mirrors should all be synced. But if it is a problem I would think it would be a bug and mgith be fixed. I don't think it will be personally. I would imangine it would be better than the round robin or what ever ftp.countrycode.debian.org does. |
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| 15:44.30 | W3ird_N3rd | somiaj, yeah, I'm not worried about mirrors not being up-to-date, just about apt-cacher-ng thinking "hey, same package, different URL.. download it again!" |
| 15:44.38 | somiaj | jj15: tehre are various ways to use an image. One is install what you want, then just copy over the file system, you'll then have to make it bootable but that is doable. You can image the actual driver. Or you could even use the tools from live.debian.net that makes a live image and includes an installer for it. |
| 15:44.59 | somiaj | W3ird_N3rd: I would hope apt-cacher-ng looks at the actual package, not the url. :/ |
| 15:45.15 | W3ird_N3rd | hope/expect so too, well, I'll find out :P |
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| 15:45.27 | jj15 | Ah, Iâve just found a guide on buiding a rootfs. I think thatâs closer to what I need. Iâll check it out first. |
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| 15:46.20 | Bombo | hi |
| 15:46.49 | Bombo | is there a repo for newer version of vlc? like 2.2.0 is current version, in wheezy i just got 2.0.6 |
| 15:47.00 | somiaj | jj15: yea if you are on a live system or have the file system mirrored (with say rsync -a or cp -a) you can just create a file system and copy the contents to that file system. The issue is then making it bootable. |
| 15:47.11 | somiaj | ,v vlc |
| 15:47.12 | judd | Package: vlc on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-5~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2.0.3-5+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 2.1.5-1~bpo70+1; sid: 2.2.0~rc2-2; jessie: 2.2.0~rc2-2; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0.6-dmo3; jessie-multimedia: |
| 15:47.13 | judd | 1:2.2.0-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.2.0-dmo1 |
| 15:47.30 | somiaj | Bombo: looks like the best you can do is get 2.1.5 from wheez-backports |
| 15:47.53 | somiaj | Bombo: other wise you will have to try to backport it yourself. |
| 15:49.54 | andocromn | i just setup debian on a computer with a SAS card and tape drive installed. i don't have any "scsi" in my "/proc/" |
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| 15:50.25 | valdyn | andocromn: not a problem, that is gone |
| 15:50.36 | somiaj | andocromn: check dmesg to see what drivers were loaded |
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| 15:51.57 | valdyn | andocromn: try /sys/class/scsi_*/ |
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| 15:52.40 | andocromn | ok, so what am i looking for? |
| 15:53.47 | Bombo | somiaj: hmmm i got 'deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main' in my sources.list, did 'apt-get update' and when i do 'apt-get -t wheezy-backports install vlc' i get 'vlc is already the newest version.' (ii vlc 1:2.0.6-dmo3 amd64 multimedia player and streamer) |
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| 15:54.12 | somiaj | Bombo: show me the output of apt-cache policy vlc |
| 15:54.24 | somiaj | Bombo: did you run apt-get update after adding wheezy-backports/ |
| 15:54.38 | andocromn | ahh i think i found it |
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| 15:55.34 | somiaj | Bombo: oh I see, the version from dmo has an epoch of 1:, that makes it > than 2.1.5. So you will have to foce the version from wheezy-backports to be insatlled |
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| 15:56.00 | somiaj | Bombo: after looking at the version string from that apt-cache policy vlc, run 'apt-get -t wheezy-backports install vlc=version' |
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| 15:57.44 | Bombo | somiaj: http://bombo.jpe.gs/debian-vlc.txt i got the one from deb-multimedia... hmmm |
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| 15:58.43 | SynrGy | !tell Bombo about why not dmo |
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| 15:58.54 | SynrGy | !tell Bombo about dmm remove |
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| 15:59.05 | SynrGy | meh |
| 15:59.09 | SynrGy | !tell Bombo about why not dmm |
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| 15:59.26 | Bombo | tell me |
| 15:59.27 | Bombo | ;) |
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| 15:59.36 | SynrGy | check your priv msgs from dpkg |
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| 16:00.25 | Bombo | ok |
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| 16:01.44 | danwomansan | anyone have experience with a corrupted screen when the display manager comes up? |
| 16:01.50 | danwomansan | I know one way to fix it |
| 16:01.52 | SynrGy | Bombo: vlc is deliberately version numbered with an epoch# (1:) so that it does not upgrade to the version in debian. |
| 16:01.54 | danwomansan | that is extremely tedious |
| 16:02.07 | danwomansan | and is to reinstall everything |
| 16:02.34 | chewtabbaca | give more info, which driver/card and has anything changed? |
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| 16:02.45 | chewtabbaca | kernel maybe too |
| 16:02.47 | SynrGy | Bombo: nothing short of complete removal of dmm crud from your system will fix this |
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| 16:02.56 | slinnky | yo ho |
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| 16:03.09 | SynrGy | danwomansan: describe "corrupted screen" |
| 16:03.14 | danwomansan | I installed linux-firmware-nonfree, usually changing the kernel at all causes this... |
| 16:03.27 | danwomansan | synrgy a random but sort of quilted patter |
| 16:03.35 | slinnky | Ah |
| 16:03.38 | danwomansan | but each repetition of the pattern is a little different |
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| 16:03.52 | SynrGy | anything at all like a wrong video mode? |
| 16:04.01 | danwomansan | dunno |
| 16:04.05 | slinnky | what video card? |
| 16:04.09 | slinnky | nVidia? |
| 16:04.11 | danwomansan | radeon hd 5770 |
| 16:04.13 | slinnky | hm |
| 16:04.27 | SynrGy | danwomansan: so, using the free radeon driver + non-free firmware, then? |
| 16:04.38 | SynrGy | danwomansan: matching kernel and firmware version? |
| 16:04.54 | danwomansan | yeah matching versions I'm almost completely sure |
| 16:04.56 | SynrGy | stable kernel, or backports? |
| 16:04.59 | danwomansan | I can't actually check |
| 16:05.02 | danwomansan | stable kernel |
| 16:05.10 | SynrGy | might try backports. and the firmware from backports. |
| 16:05.35 | danwomansan | I've mainly had this problem when enabling a bad option/disabling a required option when building my own kernel... |
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| 16:05.43 | SynrGy | unfortunately there is no backport of xorg |
| 16:05.47 | Bombo | SynrGy: i see |
| 16:05.47 | SynrGy | ah |
| 16:05.49 | danwomansan | wasn't expecting it to happen with a fresh install of debian |
| 16:06.03 | chewtabbaca | yes, the free drivers (plus the non-free blob) improve a great deal with later vesions |
| 16:06.09 | SynrGy | yep |
| 16:06.25 | SynrGy | danwomansan: adventuresome? do the jessie upgrade early? |
| 16:06.35 | SynrGy | if all goes well, it releases later this month ... |
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| 16:06.50 | danwomansan | well it was do the jessie upgrade or stick with 7.0 |
| 16:06.55 | SynrGy | yeah |
| 16:06.59 | danwomansan | which is what my install cd for my architecture has |
| 16:07.13 | SynrGy | well, i'm sure it's not 7.0, but rather 7.8 |
| 16:07.22 | danwomansan | my jessie cd is for my laptop... |
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| 16:07.41 | chewtabbaca | you'd have to use the backport to get much useful out of those drivers, you could try catalyst if you're okay with a completely non-free driver too |
| 16:07.42 | danwomansan | no, my install cd isn't recent |
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| 16:08.00 | SynrGy | well, you would upgrade immediately afterwards from a networked apt repo |
| 16:08.17 | danwomansan | I did upgrade, I did dist-upgrade last night |
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| 16:08.23 | SynrGy | then it is 7.8 |
| 16:08.23 | danwomansan | and I needed firmware for my gpu |
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| 16:08.38 | danwomansan | no I switched my repos to jessie, synrgy |
| 16:08.42 | SynrGy | ohh |
| 16:08.52 | pippo | !ciao |
| 16:08.52 | dpkg | somebody said ciao was both hello and goodbye (casual), or a slow and old but widely known Prolog interpreter. |
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| 16:08.59 | SynrGy | i thought you said earlier it is stable |
| 16:09.01 | pippo | !list |
| 16:09.01 | dpkg | pippo: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 16:09.37 | danwomansan | this morning I installed linux-firmware-nonfree and then |
| 16:09.39 | danwomansan | yeah |
| 16:09.47 | danwomansan | can't seem to switch VTs either |
| 16:10.27 | chewtabbaca | sometimes it's a matter of exactly the right config, and it's a nightmare using the 'free' driver imo |
| 16:10.45 | chewtabbaca | until you know what's what, then they're okay |
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| 16:11.32 | danwomansan | I've used these before but I've never found a real solution to the corrupted screen |
| 16:11.40 | danwomansan | just "it's dead, reinstall" |
| 16:11.50 | chewtabbaca | so other than a more recent kernel if you don't already have it, fglrx perhaps? |
| 16:11.54 | chewtabbaca | hm |
| 16:12.22 | danwomansan | I can't actually access the install |
| 16:12.26 | danwomansan | well okay I can access it |
| 16:12.42 | danwomansan | if I chroot in with one of my live cds... |
| 16:12.52 | danwomansan | but I still don't know any solution |
| 16:13.02 | danwomansan | so it doesn't seem like there's much point to that |
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| 16:14.23 | SynrGy | ,kernels |
| 16:14.24 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.19.0-trunk-686-pae (3.19.3-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt7-1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt7-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt4-3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 16:14.32 | SynrGy | danwomansan: maybe 3.19? |
| 16:14.33 | chewtabbaca | perhaps something in dmesg can help |
| 16:14.34 | SynrGy | shrugs |
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| 16:15.29 | chewtabbaca | check to see if there is a traceback or anything useful |
| 16:15.47 | chewtabbaca | if you chroot and disable the display manager, your life will be easier in the mean time too |
| 16:16.03 | SynrGy | danwomansan: and back to my earlier question about vid modes. you could see if changing vid modes has any effect on the issue |
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| 16:16.21 | SynrGy | danwomansan: do you let it autoconfigure, or do you have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
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| 16:16.40 | danwomansan | I just let it autoconfigure |
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| 16:16.52 | chewtabbaca | yeah, i ask about dmesg because I see someone with a similar issue but from 2011, which was due to the non-free firmware not being in initrd |
| 16:16.57 | danwomansan | wait do I have to run something to autoconf it |
| 16:17.04 | danwomansan | if so that there is probably my issue |
| 16:17.04 | SynrGy | some monitors give bad EDID, or at least the driver is confused by it |
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| 16:17.27 | SynrGy | installing the firmware should automatically run update-initramfs |
| 16:17.31 | chewtabbaca | https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1471 different radeon but yeah, checking dmesg and maybe your xorg log shoud give you more |
| 16:17.55 | danwomansan | okay I'll come on on my laptop now then and get to it... |
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| 16:18.03 | SynrGy | with a stock debian kernel and firmware on a fresh debian install, it's unlikely the firmware is missing from the initrd |
| 16:18.50 | chewtabbaca | ah ok, I don't use initrd, so not familiar with how that's managed, that being the case, probably not the issue but maybe video modes are |
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| 16:23.28 | danwomanlap | okay, now on my laptop, just get the cds out... |
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| 16:24.20 | SynrGy | if you upgraded it to jessie, how are the CDs relevant? |
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| 16:24.30 | danwomanlap | livecd |
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| 16:25.24 | SynrGy | ah |
| 16:25.32 | danwomanlap | you know what? I made a lot of silly mistakes installing this and want to redo it anyways |
| 16:25.45 | chewtabbaca | i expect you'll get the same result |
| 16:25.48 | SynrGy | yep |
| 16:25.49 | danwomanlap | wait crap my so wanted to play something with me today though... |
| 16:25.58 | danwomanlap | eh this time I'll try to be more careful |
| 16:26.06 | danwomanlap | instead of installing one package then restarting... |
| 16:26.19 | andocromn | anyone want a laugh? root of my problem was the sas cable to the tape drive was unplugged |
| 16:26.27 | chewtabbaca | I would say check your logs first, once you have a basis for fixing that issue a clean install is much nicer :) |
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| 16:27.07 | danwomanlap | okay |
| 16:27.43 | chewtabbaca | on the hd mounted system you should only need to check /var/log/dmesg i think and /var/log/xorg[somethingsomething] |
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| 16:28.25 | chewtabbaca | if anything meaningful shows up whack it in paste.debian.net and post the link |
| 16:28.31 | danwomanlap | should be possible from the debian cd right? |
| 16:28.37 | danwomanlap | iirc it can act as a live cd... |
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| 16:29.09 | chewtabbaca | you can chroot it from a live cd, but it's not as functional as some all purpose livecd |
| 16:29.14 | jhutchins | danwomanlap: I'm pretty sure the full install images can run live, not sure about the netinstall. |
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| 16:29.41 | chewtabbaca | hm can they, since which release |
| 16:30.01 | chewtabbaca | either I wasn't paying attention or it must be in jessie |
| 16:30.36 | danwomanlap | laptop's cd is full install desktop's cds are netinstall |
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| 16:31.11 | SynrGy | the official debian live CDs have included installer for a long time |
| 16:31.20 | chewtabbaca | ah sorry, I mistook that, I thought you were implying a full live distro on there |
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| 16:31.45 | danwomanlap | well there's a shell and a text editor |
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| 16:32.02 | danwomanlap | might as well be a full distro to some people... |
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| 16:39.03 | danwomanlap | okay, partitioning part... |
| 16:39.17 | danwomanlap | everything should be mounted right now right? |
| 16:39.45 | danwomanlap | lsblk not found, eh? |
| 16:40.23 | andocromn | anyone know what the difference between nst0 and st0 is when using a tape drive? |
| 16:40.48 | SynrGy | one rewinds and the other doesn't? |
| 16:40.55 | SynrGy | (from memory :) |
| 16:41.10 | danwomanlap | where again were these logs you wanted me to check, chewtabaca? |
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| 16:44.42 | shay_shay | hello |
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| 16:45.41 | danwomanlap | a lot of interesting things in this but I dunno if I can just like |
| 16:45.43 | danwomanlap | paste this |
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| 16:46.11 | shay_shay | use https://gist.github.com/ |
| 16:46.19 | danwomanlap | no I mean |
| 16:46.25 | danwomanlap | I'm currently in text view... |
| 16:46.27 | danwomanlap | not x |
| 16:46.39 | danwomanlap | in the debian netinstall cd |
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| 16:47.15 | shay_shay | call phone camera i guess |
| 16:47.20 | shay_shay | s/call/cell |
| 16:47.31 | chewtabbaca | hm what's that debian paste script thing people are fond of here |
| 16:47.36 | shay_shay | pastebinit |
| 16:47.56 | shay_shay | it doesnt seem to work on jessie |
| 16:48.11 | shay_shay | wait.. |
| 16:48.13 | chewtabbaca | if you can chroot, then getting /var/log/dmesg and /var/log/xorg[blah] up somewhere may work? |
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| 16:49.46 | shay_shay | pastebinit gives me empty url when I do echo "blah" | pastebinit |
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| 16:50.17 | shay_shay | ah |
| 16:50.25 | shay_shay | it wont upload just one line |
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| 16:50.45 | shay_shay | this works: echo -e "blah\nblah" | pastebinit |
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| 16:51.07 | chewtabbaca | so presumably you can just do cat /var/log/dmsg | pastebinit? |
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| 16:52.07 | shay_shay | sometimes really big files wont work, theres a limitation on size ... if you used tail and then the maximum number of lines debian pastebin will support then yes it will work |
| 16:52.25 | chewtabbaca | ah |
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| 16:53.03 | danwomanlap | hm, only issue I'm seeing in here is "kernel modesetting on r600 and later requires firmware-linux-nonfree"... |
| 16:53.07 | danwomanlap | but I already installed that |
| 16:53.26 | shay_shay | tail --lines=999 file | pastebinit |
| 16:54.03 | shay_shay | finds out what maximum for debian.paste is |
| 16:56.32 | danwomanlap | okay so dmesg http://paste.debian.net/164924/ |
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| 16:58.31 | danwomanlap | hmm, xorg.0.log is empty apparently |
| 17:00.06 | shay_shay | whats the problem we're trying to fix? |
| 17:00.32 | shay_shay | I tried to read scrollback but it was tl;dr :P |
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| 17:00.58 | jhutchins | shay_shay: Video. Older radion I think? |
| 17:01.01 | danwomanlap | patterened garbage on starting x, system unresponsive |
| 17:01.09 | shay_shay | ahhh |
| 17:01.20 | chewtabbaca | according to dmesg, firmware-linux-nonfree is missing |
| 17:01.49 | shay_shay | dpkg -l | grep firmware |
| 17:01.49 | dpkg | ii | grep firmware 1.9-13 shay_shay's private gamp collection |
| 17:01.56 | shay_shay | lol |
| 17:02.05 | chewtabbaca | also, acpi issues which they suggest upgrading the firmware for |
| 17:02.09 | chewtabbaca | if there is an upgrade heh |
| 17:03.25 | shay_shay | I had a problem on an older radeon card with firmware-linux-nonfree even installed when it came back from sleep the video was all artifacty... the only solution was to never use sleep or do a legacy (non uefi) install |
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| 17:03.32 | danwomanlap | firmware-linux-nonfree is installed... |
| 17:03.50 | chewtabbaca | perhaps it does want initrd rebuild? |
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| 17:04.03 | danwomanlap | how to do that then? |
| 17:04.13 | danwomanlap | wait I'm completely reinstalling right now |
| 17:04.49 | chewtabbaca | I think you can insert a blob during install if you have it on usb |
| 17:05.12 | chewtabbaca | but that might only be good enough /during/ install idk how the internals work, never had to use it |
| 17:06.27 | chewtabbaca | do upgrade that bios if there's an update for it, as acpi may be needed for your cards power states as well |
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| 17:08.14 | danwomanlap | bios upgrade on this mobo is incredibly convoluted |
| 17:08.44 | danwomanlap | you have to install msi's operating system and then download and run it on that if you don't have any usb flash drives |
| 17:08.46 | danwomanlap | which I don't |
| 17:09.06 | danwomanlap | msi's operating system requires windows to be installed |
| 17:09.22 | danwomanlap | and doesn't work if windows hibernates or fast shutdowns |
| 17:09.26 | shay_shay | a lot of firmware flashers will work with windows PE |
| 17:10.22 | shay_shay | windows PE = windows pre-installation enviroment. its a stripped down version of windows just for running things like that |
| 17:10.27 | shay_shay | gives you a command line |
| 17:10.42 | chewtabbaca | ah, maybe another work around can be found for that then, but those acpi objects might not relate to graphics anyhow, the kernel not finding your firmware blob seems more of an issue |
| 17:11.34 | shay_shay | windows command line is a pain to use though |
| 17:11.46 | danwomanlap | it also had an issue with my memory in the early part of the log |
| 17:11.52 | chewtabbaca | I think that yes, initrd should have been rebuilt for you, idk the command.. I always hated initrd |
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| 17:11.56 | danwomanlap | before it's cut off by the line limit |
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| 17:12.31 | danwomanlap | something about what efi said it was and what it actually was mismatching |
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| 17:12.56 | chewtabbaca | ah but it's clipped part of dmsg i guess? |
| 17:13.02 | danwomanlap | yeah |
| 17:13.26 | shay_shay | well it goes all the way to the efi firmware |
| 17:13.36 | shay_shay | so not much is cropped off |
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| 17:13.49 | danwomanlap | it was around the tenth line I think? |
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| 17:14.33 | shay_shay | danwomanlap: thats how its supposed to look |
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| 17:15.01 | chewtabbaca | maybe you have hardware issues but the graphics I still think can be fixed by sorting the firmware issue |
| 17:15.05 | kalin00b | out of nowhere i have this problem when starting mysql |
| 17:15.08 | kalin00b | /usr/share/mysql/debian-start.inc.sh: line 18: tempfile: command not found |
| 17:15.18 | chewtabbaca | i would look to the other issues as a secondary problem |
| 17:15.18 | danwomanlap | I know for certain I have a lot of hardware issues |
| 17:15.35 | chewtabbaca | if fixing the firmware issue doesn't work i mean |
| 17:15.38 | kalin00b | i only see a lot of people on red hat having compiling issues related to tempfile command not found |
| 17:16.01 | kalin00b | nothing related to mysql not even debian distros |
| 17:16.08 | kalin00b | im kind of out of ideas :-/ |
| 17:16.38 | chewtabbaca | fingers crossed the reinstall does it for you |
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| 17:17.17 | dariusb | Can apt-get use a socks proxy? I've seen example, but can't get any of them to work. |
| 17:18.19 | shay_shay | danwomanlap: are you booting the installer with uefi again? might be a good idea to try bios boot instead. |
| 17:18.37 | danwomanlap | windows is installed with efi |
| 17:18.41 | shay_shay | ohh |
| 17:18.42 | danwomanlap | I can't get rid of windows |
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| 17:20.13 | kalin00b | reinstalling debianutils |
| 17:20.22 | shay_shay | if you installed linux as bios boot then the only caveat would be windows wouldnt show up in grub, but you could still use your uefi's boot menu |
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| 17:20.40 | kalin00b | i know that gnutils was set up wrong on installation but i have used mysql before dont remember this error |
| 17:21.06 | pfred1 | I need to format my old hard drive |
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| 17:21.30 | GPenguin | create a new filesystem you mean? :P |
| 17:21.39 | pfred1 | nah format it |
| 17:21.46 | pfred1 | probably reparittion it too |
| 17:22.02 | GPenguin | ancient hardware in the works, i take it |
| 17:22.15 | tytan | Hello, everyone. I'm running Debian Wheezy and software RAID1. What will happen if I remove one of the two drives of md0 and md1? Will it want to sync afterward which will take like forever? |
| 17:22.17 | pfred1 | from about 2009 I think |
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| 17:22.59 | GPenguin | i only dban such drives |
| 17:23.16 | pfred1 | GPenguin you what? |
| 17:23.32 | danwomanlap | darik's boot and nook |
| 17:23.34 | danwomanlap | nuke* |
| 17:23.38 | GPenguin | i use a tool to wipe the disk. classic formatting is not necessary |
| 17:23.43 | danwomanlap | secure complete nuking of all of the disk |
| 17:24.06 | pfred1 | I just want it for file storage |
| 17:24.20 | tytan | Is there anyone familiar with software RAID and Debian? |
| 17:24.36 | shay_shay | tytan: only btrfs :P |
| 17:24.45 | pfred1 | it was my old OS drive but when i upgraded i put a new disk in the machine and installed on it, then I took the files off the old drive |
| 17:24.58 | tytan | shay_shay I use EXT4 now :/ |
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| 17:25.11 | pfred1 | yeah me too if it ain't got ext in the name i don't use it |
| 17:25.19 | tytan | shay_shay But it should behave the same in terms of software RAID, shouldn't it? |
| 17:25.34 | shay_shay | if it doesnt have "next gen" in the title I wont touch it |
| 17:25.40 | shay_shay | :D |
| 17:25.46 | pfred1 | ext2 is still good |
| 17:26.02 | tytan | I want to test my RAID1. But I'm afraid it will want to sync which takes literally hours to complete :/ |
| 17:26.46 | shay_shay | btrfs will allow you to mount a degraded mirror right away |
| 17:27.09 | tytan | How do I notice if one of my drives failed? |
| 17:27.22 | pfred1 | shay_shay btrfs isn't really ready for production I don't think |
| 17:27.37 | pfred1 | tytan there's SMART |
| 17:27.46 | tytan | pfred1 openSUSE thinks it is ^^ |
| 17:27.48 | shay_shay | i'm pretty sure it is pfred1 |
| 17:27.54 | slinnky | How do I get unity on this bitch? |
| 17:27.58 | slinnky | Debian woody |
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| 17:28.11 | shay_shay | facebook thinks it is too |
| 17:28.26 | tytan | This is like a NAS. Just Debian Wheezy and SAMBA. Nothing more |
| 17:28.27 | pfred1 | does facebook run Linux? |
| 17:28.36 | slinnky | NetBSD bro |
| 17:28.41 | tytan | pfred1 Linux or BSD, Yes |
| 17:28.45 | shay_shay | pfred1: facebook switched all their data centers to btrfs |
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| 17:28.48 | pfred1 | yeah brtfs is more mature on other OSes |
| 17:29.04 | slinnky | whatever happened to ReiserFS? |
| 17:29.05 | shay_shay | pfred1: btrfs is linux only, you're thinking of zfs |
| 17:29.13 | kalin00b | why would you want unity |
| 17:29.15 | kalin00b | boooo |
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| 17:29.24 | pfred1 | slinnky reiser killed his wife chopped her up and threw her in a dumpster |
| 17:29.25 | tytan | So I won't notice a failed drive if I don't look it up manually? |
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| 17:29.40 | pfred1 | so he's kind of in prison now |
| 17:29.42 | slinnky | pfred1, I know that.... But what happened to his FS? |
| 17:29.55 | pfred1 | I guess after that no one wanted to be associated with it? |
| 17:30.16 | slinnky | WTF cared.... It was still good technology |
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| 17:30.40 | d3fault_ | why come no fun fancy [free] trasparent cube aquarium desktops in wheezy anymore? nobody to maintain it? |
| 17:30.41 | pfred1 | it wasn't good enough to survive that kind of PR |
| 17:30.51 | tytan | So if I pull out on SATA cable to test my RAID I'll have to go through the eternal process of resyncing? |
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| 17:31.24 | danwomanlap | what were the upsides of reiserfs over others? |
| 17:31.25 | d3fault_ | in *debian, i mean. afaik there never was one in wheezy (but squeeze--) |
| 17:31.59 | d3fault_ | danwomanlap: it murders your wife |
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| 17:32.20 | danwomanlap | good thing I don't have a wife |
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| 17:32.50 | shay_shay | tytan: look into "smartd" configuration. you should be able to write a script which sends you an email when some event happens |
| 17:33.10 | chewtabbaca | reiserfs used to work well with small files |
| 17:33.22 | chewtabbaca | but had maintenance problems :p |
| 17:33.22 | valdyn | danwomanlap: reiserfs needed only as much space per file as the filesize + metadata |
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| 17:34.11 | danwomanlap | good when you need lots of small files then? |
| 17:34.14 | jelly | danwomanlap: at the time of release, it was efficient with small files; it had a journal and needed no fsck after power loss; it had no problems storing tens of thousands of files in a single directory |
| 17:34.18 | shay_shay | tytan: oh it turns out smartd has the email thing built in. you could send a email to your pushbullet account (or similar) |
| 17:34.50 | chewtabbaca | yes, but it's not mainline and if you want a 'better' fs go with btrfs |
| 17:34.55 | valdyn | pfred1: no |
| 17:34.59 | tytan | shay_shay can it send real e-mails? to my e-mail address for example? |
| 17:35.15 | chewtabbaca | which is to say, reiserfs is no longer maintained |
| 17:35.27 | chewtabbaca | so btrfs with compression if you want speed |
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| 17:35.33 | jelly | chewtabbaca: "reiserfs" usually means v3, which is in mainline |
| 17:35.49 | shay_shay | tytan: yes but you need to configure a MTA most likely. which is pretty easy, debian has a dialog which asks you what you want when the package is first configured |
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| 17:35.57 | chewtabbaca | yea, I know, but when was the last time someone touched the code |
| 17:36.39 | jelly | "not mainline" is incorrect, and danwomanlap did not ask what to use _today_ |
| 17:37.02 | danwomanlap | I'm currently just using ext4 since I don't know all the upsides of the filesystems |
| 17:37.10 | tytan | shay_shay so "smartd" it was? |
| 17:37.19 | pfred1 | danwomanlap ext4 is fine |
| 17:37.27 | jelly | danwomanlap: ext4 is decent default |
| 17:37.34 | shay_shay | tytan: yes, smartd and exim4 (debians default MTA) |
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| 17:37.48 | tytan | Thank you very much |
| 17:38.08 | chewtabbaca | true he didn't, but since we were off topic ... |
| 17:38.30 | chewtabbaca | I favour ext4 anyway |
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| 17:39.54 | danwomanlap | I might as well not install x yet |
| 17:40.10 | danwomanlap | avoid having this issue again... |
| 17:40.22 | pfred1 | danwomanlap what issue? |
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| 17:40.41 | danwomanlap | on x start I was presented with a screen of garbage |
| 17:40.48 | danwomanlap | and my computer became unresponsive |
| 17:41.18 | danwomanlap | had the issue before and decided to try to find a solution this time and gave up and just reinstalled instead |
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| 17:41.26 | pfred1 | danwomanlap you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file? |
| 17:41.28 | danwomanlap | it was a fresh install anyways |
| 17:41.40 | danwomanlap | I'm currently installing, it doesn't matter anymore |
| 17:41.47 | danwomanlap | it had to do with kernel firmware |
| 17:41.53 | danwomanlap | er |
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| 17:41.57 | danwomanlap | driver firmware |
| 17:41.58 | pfred1 | ah what video adapter do you have? |
| 17:42.02 | chewtabbaca | he posted his dmesg, kernel was apparently unaware of the linux-firmware-nonfree package |
| 17:42.03 | danwomanlap | hd 5770 |
| 17:42.14 | pfred1 | intel? |
| 17:42.18 | danwomanlap | radeon |
| 17:42.22 | pfred1 | oh |
| 17:42.34 | shay_shay | danwomanlap: this is a shot in the dark, but did you try radeon.modeset=0 in your kernel command line? |
| 17:42.42 | pfred1 | yeah ATI's drivers are a bit spotty on Linux |
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| 17:42.56 | danwomanlap | well I wasn't using fglrx, pfred1 |
| 17:43.11 | danwomanlap | so it doesn't have to do with amd themselves |
| 17:43.12 | pfred1 | doesn't matter drivers for their hardware are all over the map |
| 17:43.25 | danwomanlap | installation was quick |
| 17:43.30 | pfred1 | sometimes fglrx is your best bet |
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| 17:43.38 | danwomanlap | I don't have a new GPU |
| 17:43.40 | pfred1 | sometimes it ain't |
| 17:43.51 | danwomanlap | my GPU is right in the sweet area for mesa |
| 17:43.51 | chewtabbaca | the firmware blob comes from amd, and yes fglrx will be a better bet |
| 17:44.48 | pfred1 | I've been running Nvidia on Linux since i had an MX 200 |
| 17:45.41 | danwomanlap | older gpus generally perform better with radeon/mesa drivers over fglrx, and have better compatibility with them |
| 17:45.47 | pfred1 | heck on this network I chatted with devs from Nvidia to get me going using their binary driver when it was first out in beta |
| 17:45.48 | danwomanlap | any my gpu happens to be nearly 6 years old |
| 17:46.27 | pfred1 | but I think this place was OPN back then? |
| 17:46.57 | shay_shay | danwomanlap: I'm running an 8 year old radeon card in my iMac |
| 17:47.28 | pfred1 | that old card burnt up when I had a PSU fail on me I still have an MX 400 that works though |
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| 17:48.08 | somiaj | yea the closed binaries drop support for older cards. There are sometimes legacy packages that work, but for most the free drivers work just fine if not better. |
| 17:48.30 | pfred1 | somiaj Nvidia has never dropped support for any of their hardware |
| 17:48.41 | danwomanlap | I think my gpu is now the oldest generation being supported by AMD now? |
| 17:48.43 | pfred1 | heck the riva TNT binary driver still works today |
| 17:48.45 | chewtabbaca | nvidia just works |
| 17:48.48 | danwomanlap | soon that won't be the case anymore |
| 17:49.13 | rgr | dont be silly. Nvidia is putting more and more resources into Linux as a result of their collaboration with Valve. |
| 17:49.21 | somiaj | pfred1: then why do we have to provided legacy packages for older hardware. The current nvidia drivers will not work with older gpus. |
| 17:49.22 | rgr | Its the only gfx hw worth considering. |
| 17:49.22 | pfred1 | ATI/AMD has horrible policy when it comes to supporting Linux |
| 17:49.28 | gasull | I'm trying to install Debian stable in a 10-year-old laptop form the CD drive. After I get the splash screen I select the install option at the top, but nothing ever happens. |
| 17:49.34 | rgr | AND simply sucks with Linux. |
| 17:49.49 | pfred1 | somiaj why would you want to run old hardware with a new driver? |
| 17:50.03 | pfred1 | the old driver does all it is ever going to do |
| 17:50.15 | somiaj | and yes nvidia I belive is working nouvau to help improve its proformance. |
| 17:50.39 | danwomanlap | in the case of current nvidia, the drivers will never support every part of the hardware anyways |
| 17:50.43 | pfred1 | all of the legacy drivers are still maintained |
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| 17:50.51 | danwomanlap | nvidia blatantly ignoring bug reports |
| 17:51.21 | pfred1 | danwomanlap I haven't seen a show stopping bug in Nvidia's drivers since the driver was in beta |
| 17:51.32 | shay_shay | oh yeah i love that nvidia always corrupts my wallpaper because they didnt bother to follow any standards when making their driver |
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| 17:51.56 | pfred1 | though vdpau was messed up for a bit in youtube |
| 17:51.59 | danwomanlap | they still don't pay attention to any bug reports; if a dev relies on a feature of opengl and nvidia broke it |
| 17:52.01 | chewtabbaca | tbh the benchmarks and universal support says it all for a buyer |
| 17:52.06 | danwomanlap | well they better go support nvidia's version of it too |
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| 17:52.18 | danwomanlap | because nvidia doesn't really care about that stuff |
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| 17:52.32 | danwomanlap | AMD will at least TRY to fix the bug |
| 17:52.35 | pfred1 | nvidia is top dog today |
| 17:52.59 | danwomanlap | I don't support devs who care more about incrementing the version number than actually fixing things |
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| 17:53.42 | pfred1 | I support Nvidia I'd buy nothing else |
| 17:53.43 | chewtabbaca | in reality amd breaks all the time on linux, and doesn't work everywhere |
| 17:54.08 | chewtabbaca | custom kernel build and fglrx is a fail |
| 17:54.15 | pfred1 | as far as a hardware manufacturer goes I couldn't name one that has supported Linux better than Nvidia has |
| 17:54.29 | shay_shay | just going to boycott both amd and nvidia until they get their heads out of their asses. intel or nothing |
| 17:54.39 | valdyn | pfred1: of course you are forgetting about intel |
| 17:54.59 | pfred1 | meh Intel has some wacky wifi drivers |
| 17:55.06 | pfred1 | they could be doing better |
| 17:55.33 | danwomanlap | intel's wifi drivers are weird on all platforms |
| 17:55.37 | pfred1 | intel also has more resources than every other manufacturer on the planet put together |
| 17:56.00 | pfred1 | so yeah they could be doing a lot better |
| 17:56.31 | hassoon | owns intel |
| 17:56.43 | danwomanlap | most intel stuff is supported natively by the kernel though? |
| 17:56.46 | pfred1 | I have some intel on CPU GPUs |
| 17:56.52 | ompaul | pfred1: that's funny - really hilarious, they were not good players until Linus went for them |
| 17:57.04 | valdyn | danwomanlap: of course |
| 17:57.08 | pfred1 | ompaul who wasn't? |
| 17:57.17 | ompaul | nvidia - and I'm offtopic tbh |
| 17:57.21 | valdyn | danwomanlap: that is why id argue intels driver support is the best |
| 17:57.24 | chewtabbaca | intel is free as in freedom in terms of graphics drivers iirc |
| 17:57.36 | ompaul | chewtabbaca: true |
| 17:57.41 | pfred1 | ompaul oh bull Linus did nothing to influence Nvidia he was way out of line |
| 17:57.42 | danwomanlap | since intel does stuff so that their hardware works with "generic" drivers really well... |
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| 17:57.48 | danwomanlap | not needing a new driver for each piece of hardware |
| 17:57.51 | valdyn | danwomanlap: no, you got that wrong |
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| 17:58.30 | valdyn | danwomanlap: they just write their drivers before hardware is sold |
| 17:58.44 | chewtabbaca | depends what you need from graphics, if integrated was up there with some higher end cards, intel would be the one and only to use |
| 17:58.44 | ompaul | and get the code into mainline |
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| 18:00.18 | pfred1 | my Intel does GL OK |
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| 18:00.36 | danwomanlap | new intel IGPs are beefy |
| 18:00.44 | danwomanlap | latest one I saw, iirc, beats my GPU |
| 18:00.47 | pfred1 | I'd say it is about on par with a Nvidia GT220 |
| 18:00.56 | danwomanlap | which is still usable for most things comfortably |
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| 18:02.29 | pfred1 | danwomanlap well I'm not really in the market for a new system now so that rules the new intel IGPs out for me |
| 18:02.55 | danwomanlap | I'm not either, I don't have any money and have much more important things to spend it on |
| 18:03.03 | danwomanlap | but I'm saying, they're looking incredibly promising |
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| 18:03.05 | ompaul | is there a real tech support question in this or is it just banter? |
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| 18:03.25 | danwomanlap | this came here from a tangent from me having issues with X |
| 18:03.29 | kerneloopz | hey guys, I'm attempting to build a package, but I'm running into this error: |
| 18:03.32 | kerneloopz | "dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ../<PACKAGE_NAME>.orig.tar.{bz2,gz,lzma,xz}" |
| 18:03.38 | ompaul | danwomanlap: are they sorted? |
| 18:03.51 | kerneloopz | yet the tarball is not in ../, it is just ., the current directory. How do I fix this? |
| 18:03.52 | danwomanlap | well I reinstalled everything so I hope so lol |
| 18:04.15 | ompaul | danwomanlap: reinstalls are fun until you have some data you care about :-) |
| 18:04.17 | pfred1 | kerneloopz make a build directory and build it from there? |
| 18:04.25 | ompaul | danwomanlap: have a look at this if you are new to debian |
| 18:04.29 | ompaul | !don't break debian |
| 18:04.30 | dpkg | dont break debian is probably https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 18:04.37 | danwomanlap | I'm not new to debian |
| 18:04.53 | ompaul | in which case don't read it or please do and correct grammar ;-) |
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| 18:04.54 | danwomanlap | first time trying to dist-upgrade but not new at all |
| 18:05.27 | danwomanlap | mainly coming back to debian because the other distros I tend to use are extremely stressful |
| 18:05.46 | pfred1 | I did a dist upgrade onceo n a lark and it worked out surprisingly well considering I didn't do anything I was supposed to prior to doing it |
| 18:05.46 | ompaul | then read that page to keep stress down |
| 18:06.02 | ompaul | has been running sid on and off since 2003 |
| 18:06.09 | ompaul | on since 09 |
| 18:06.24 | ompaul | been fun - twice not working machines in all that time |
| 18:06.32 | ompaul | once I waited 24 hours |
| 18:06.43 | pfred1 | ompaul that's two times too many for me |
| 18:06.47 | danwomanlap | I'm just going up to jessie, I need a certain suite of applications that aren't available for the last one I was on, gentoo |
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| 18:06.51 | ompaul | so then you need stable |
| 18:06.59 | danwomanlap | also never gotten dssi-vst to work on anything but debian... |
| 18:07.16 | ompaul | right no real support questions |
| 18:07.21 | chewtabbaca | debian is good at working :) |
| 18:07.26 | pfred1 | I've had troubles lately getting a lot of old code to compile on Debian |
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| 18:07.34 | ompaul | kerneloopz: take that to #debian-mentors on irc.debian.net |
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| 18:07.46 | kerneloopz | ty |
| 18:07.48 | ompaul | pfred1: libc has changed a lot |
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| 18:08.07 | ompaul | so maybe the old code needs a visit to make it comply with new standards for coding |
| 18:08.10 | pfred1 | ompaul that's not the only thing that has changed |
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| 18:08.27 | pfred1 | nah there's a lot of libraries that are unsupported anymore |
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| 18:08.38 | danwomanlap | oh my god I think I know my issue, new version of kernel with old version of x maybe? |
| 18:08.41 | pfred1 | gtk+ libttf |
| 18:08.49 | danwomanlap | well |
| 18:08.50 | danwomanlap | one of them |
| 18:08.55 | danwomanlap | one of many |
| 18:09.16 | pfred1 | danwomanlap I did run into a bizarre compatibility issue with Xorg and a Linux kernel once |
| 18:09.19 | danwomanlap | agh that was a stupid realization I'll just get back to this dist-upgrade now |
| 18:09.32 | pfred1 | theoretically it should have worked, but it didn't |
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| 18:10.00 | pfred1 | that was when I did the dist-upgrade |
| 18:10.26 | ompaul | feels like a sunday |
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| 18:11.35 | shay_shay | danwomanlap: did you try radeon.modeset=0 in your kernel command line? |
| 18:11.55 | danwomanlap | I, I'm in a different installation without x now |
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| 18:12.33 | shay_shay | you dont want x anymore? |
| 18:12.36 | pfred1 | danwomanlap it is possible to have an Xorg that is too old for your video drivers though you said your video adapter is old right? |
| 18:12.36 | danwomanlap | no I do |
| 18:12.40 | danwomanlap | I'm not installing it yet |
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| 18:13.18 | pfred1 | when it happened to me the GPU i had was really new then |
| 18:13.21 | danwomanlap | eh, 2009 |
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| 18:13.35 | pfred1 | yeah there's no way a recent xorg isn't supporting that |
| 18:13.55 | ompaul | danwomanlap: apt-get dist-upgrade and then apt-get install tasksel and then apt-get install task-.... whatever you want is least keystroke way but you most likely know that |
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| 18:14.14 | shay_shay | danwomanlap: you can install your DE with tasksel, then disable the DM's service from starting automatically, then you can troubleshoot x with "startx" |
| 18:14.22 | ompaul | unless it;s that funky optimus type |
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| 18:14.49 | danwomanlap | or I could just install x and use xterm for troubleshooting if needed |
| 18:14.57 | pfred1 | shay_shay you could just read your Xorg.0.log too |
| 18:14.59 | danwomanlap | much less downloading required |
| 18:15.27 | shay_shay | pfred1: using startx and reading a log are not mutually exclusive, if thats what you mean |
| 18:15.34 | shay_shay | correct^ |
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| 18:15.49 | pfred1 | shay_shay Xorg.0.log is that text that scrolls by when you startx |
| 18:16.04 | shay_shay | pfred1: I know what it is lol |
| 18:16.18 | shay_shay | pfred1: when did I say you couldnt read the log? |
| 18:16.36 | pfred1 | shay_shay I'm wondering why you said use starx |
| 18:16.39 | pfred1 | startx |
| 18:16.53 | pfred1 | most folks use DMs today |
| 18:16.57 | shay_shay | well then wonder that then, dont put words in my mouth |
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| 18:17.39 | K-202 | Hello. I can't set WiFi connection on Samsung R540 and Debian 7 Wheezy with XFCE. My WiFi card is 14e4:4727 rev 01 (BMC4313 802.11 b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller if detected correctly). Enabled modules: brcmutil, mac80211, cfg80211, rfkill... I even enabled b43 module. |
| 18:17.53 | K-202 | iwconfig shows no WiFi connection |
| 18:17.56 | shay_shay | pfred1: danwomanlap didnt want to install with desktop presumably because he/she was not wanting it to boot directly into x |
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| 18:18.06 | ompaul | !bmc43 |
| 18:18.26 | danwomanlap | !bcm43 |
| 18:18.36 | shay_shay | pfred1: so I was suggesting instead of leaving it uninstalled so it cant be used, it would get installed and disabled instead |
| 18:18.40 | pfred1 | shay_shay yeah you can install X Window with no DE then you get TWM |
| 18:18.42 | danwomanlap | broadcom stuff is hell |
| 18:18.53 | danwomanlap | I think I have that same wifi thing on my laptop though... |
| 18:19.05 | ompaul | !wifi |
| 18:19.05 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 18:19.06 | shay_shay | pfred1: but you can install the whole thing and just disable the DM service |
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| 18:19.15 | K-202 | on Ubuntu / openSUSE / Android there was no issues with WiFi, only on Debian with XFCE (maybe WiFi card wasn't enabled while installation) |
| 18:19.20 | pfred1 | shay_shay sure a DM is separate |
| 18:19.21 | ompaul | read that wiki and follow it's advice |
| 18:19.36 | pfred1 | you never need a DM but they're nice |
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| 18:20.13 | danwomanlap | hmm, systemctl reboot returns dbus connection unknown error -1... |
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| 18:20.42 | danwomanlap | k-202 debian doesn't install non-free firmware |
| 18:20.44 | K-202 | danwomanlap: I checked the Wiki but I'm looking for a solution without need to access the Internet |
| 18:20.44 | shay_shay | pfred1: you're not making any sense. person says they want a desktop enviroment but they reinstalled without it until they can find a solution. its obvious they want it to boot to command line. the smartest solution is to have it installed and then disable the DM |
| 18:20.46 | pfred1 | danwomanlap systemctl you say? |
| 18:20.48 | danwomanlap | you have to cut and install manually |
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| 18:21.06 | danwomanlap | pfred1 yeah I'm trying to reboot my desktop |
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| 18:21.38 | shay_shay | pfred1: the DM can be re enabled later after it is proven that x will start |
| 18:21.41 | pfred1 | danwomanlap I'm not ready to make the Systemd leap myself yet |
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| 18:21.51 | K-202 | danwomanlap: so no way to set up WiFi without access to Internet? |
| 18:22.07 | danwomanlap | yeah, k-202 |
| 18:22.15 | danwomanlap | got anything else you could download the firmwares on? |
| 18:22.21 | danwomanlap | it's not over apt so |
| 18:22.31 | pfred1 | what most folks do is install with an ethernet connection |
| 18:22.48 | danwomanlap | heh, debian doesn't come with the firmware for my ethernet card |
| 18:23.01 | danwomanlap | it's a crappy realtek thing anyways |
| 18:23.06 | pfred1 | danwomanlap bad NIC |
| 18:23.20 | danwomanlap | just using my phone to give my desktop internet |
| 18:23.26 | danwomanlap | since my wifi stuff is also broadcom :P |
| 18:23.32 | pfred1 | debian's firmware policy does make for lots of extra headaches |
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| 18:23.50 | ompaul | it also keeps it in compliance with the GPL |
| 18:23.52 | ompaul | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware |
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| 18:24.32 | danwomanlap | I think it's a bit funny that after all of this debian is still not approved by the FSF because of contrib and non-free |
| 18:24.33 | ompaul | !firmware cd |
| 18:24.34 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 7 "Wheezy" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 18:24.40 | danwomanlap | which aren't enabled by default |
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| 18:25.37 | ompaul | danwomanlap: no, that is the FSF's choice, which is sane because to aqueous to one group with a slightly tainted situation is to open the flood gates, I don't like it myself, but then they can make their choice |
| 18:25.58 | ompaul | they declare their own rules and they live by them |
| 18:26.02 | danwomanlap | agh how could I reboot this computer |
| 18:26.12 | danwomanlap | yeah the fsf is kinda |
| 18:26.13 | ompaul | danwomanlap: read that firmwarecd thing |
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| 18:26.14 | pfred1 | danwomanlap sysmagic |
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| 18:28.28 | pfred1 | danwomanlap: hold down alt and print screen then hit r,e,i,s,u,b |
| 18:28.59 | pfred1 | I think debian's kernels have magic in them? |
| 18:29.05 | danwomanlap | nope |
| 18:29.11 | pfred1 | oh bummer! |
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| 18:30.00 | STMelon | hi all |
| 18:30.14 | danwomanlap | okay so I just typed exit then tapped the power button |
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| 18:37.30 | danwomanlap | http://paste.debian.net/164938/ |
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| 18:38.41 | pfred1 | danwomanlap seems prety clear [ 151.760] (EE) No drivers available. |
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| 18:40.05 | danwomanlap | yep |
| 18:40.15 | pfred1 | danwomanlap it's supposed to look something like this [607269.949] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so |
| 18:40.38 | danwomanlap | thing is, I installed radeon and mesa |
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| 18:41.21 | pfred1 | danwomanlap do lspci -v and see what it says for your kernel driver there |
| 18:41.44 | danwomanlap | kernel driver in us: radeon |
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| 18:42.22 | pfred1 | danwomanlap aptitude show xserver-xorg-video-radeon |
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| 18:43.08 | danwomanlap | sated: installed |
| 18:43.46 | shay_shay | https://gist.github.com/shawnbon206/a9bf312cf1f23922d4ad |
| 18:44.09 | pfred1 | danwomanlap https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 18:44.33 | shay_shay | my gist link is for a xorg.conf |
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| 18:45.57 | danwomanlap | xorg.conf goes in /etc right? |
| 18:45.59 | shay_shay | will force it to load radeon if possible |
| 18:46.06 | pfred1 | danwomanlap /etc/X11 |
| 18:46.10 | danwomanlap | okay |
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| 18:46.20 | pfred1 | you're better off without one if you're having problems |
| 18:46.25 | shay_shay | /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-radeon.conf |
| 18:46.26 | towo` | radeon does not need a xorg.conf |
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| 18:46.42 | shay_shay | it doesnt usually but its not automatically loading |
| 18:46.50 | pfred1 | xorg should do the best it can to make something work |
| 18:46.56 | towo` | then xserver-xorg-video-ati is not installed |
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| 18:47.31 | pfred1 | danwomanlap this seems extreme but if it were me I'd do it just to get something going apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 18:47.32 | danwomanlap | and more garbage |
| 18:48.05 | danwomanlap | just going to get a picture of this then |
| 18:48.08 | danwomanlap | one sec |
| 18:48.43 | pfred1 | you're missing some piece of the puzzle that's for sure |
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| 18:50.25 | danwomanlap | https://www.dropbox.com/s/jym78d8bterl9ql/2015-04-04%2014.48.35.jpg?dl=0 just to confirm that we're all trying to resolve the same issue |
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| 18:51.40 | pfred1 | danwomanlap are you sure that GPU isn't cooked? |
| 18:51.47 | pfred1 | they do crap out sometimes |
| 18:51.58 | danwomanlap | yeah, I can boot into windows fine |
| 18:52.03 | pfred1 | OK |
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| 18:52.47 | pfred1 | recently I had a bizarre warm boot issue with my NIC |
| 18:53.09 | pfred1 | I did a systm update then rebooted and my network wouldn't come back up |
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| 18:53.13 | danwomanlap | so I'm 100% certain now that the firmware is being loaded right |
| 18:53.38 | pfred1 | it wasn't til I did a cold reset that I was able to reestablish a network connection |
| 18:54.44 | pfred1 | danwomanlap I've got to say the only time I've ever seen screens that resemble yours is when GPUs have failed |
| 18:55.08 | danwomanlap | I see it when kernel issues |
| 18:55.27 | danwomanlap | it's usually the death of an install |
| 18:57.06 | pfred1 | danwomanlap it almost looks like gigantic weave http://www.nelug.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/desktop-twm.png |
| 18:57.24 | pfred1 | danwomanlap weave is the default twm desktop background |
| 18:57.50 | pfred1 | like if you don't run a window manager at all weave is what you get |
| 18:58.02 | danwomanlap | I'll try installing another wm |
| 18:58.10 | flexd | Hm, any tips on fixing video playback performance in VLC? I can play it just fine non-maximized, but at 2560x1440 it stutters (though audio is fine) |
| 18:58.15 | pfred1 | well jsut installing them isn't enough you have to use them |
| 18:58.27 | flexd | I'm on the latest i5 NUC, Intel HD6000 integrated graphics |
| 18:58.42 | pfred1 | you call your wm from ~/.xinitrc |
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| 18:59.23 | pfred1 | like if you wanted to run fluxbox you'd have the line exec fluxbox in there |
| 18:59.28 | tomivs | Hi everybody |
| 19:00.19 | danwomanlap | hmm, no more video at all after booting into linux now |
| 19:00.56 | danwomanlap | fixed |
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| 19:01.09 | pfred1 | bad jack? |
| 19:01.24 | pfred1 | oh wait this is a laptop isn't it? |
| 19:01.31 | danwomanlap | oh, I think uh |
| 19:01.33 | tomivs | My function keys F1, F2, F3... (brightness, lock, play, pause, next) are not working |
| 19:01.38 | danwomanlap | I ran it as root |
| 19:01.41 | danwomanlap | completely fine now |
| 19:01.53 | pfred1 | ah permissions? |
| 19:02.03 | pfred1 | see if your user is in the video group |
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| 19:02.39 | danwomanlap | what again is that command to add my user to the video group? |
| 19:03.05 | pfred1 | useradd -G {group-name} username |
| 19:03.37 | danwomanlap | uh, user already exists |
| 19:03.39 | danwomanlap | the other command |
| 19:03.43 | danwomanlap | for existing users |
| 19:04.07 | pfred1 | usermod |
| 19:04.11 | danwomanlap | used gpasswd |
| 19:04.13 | danwomanlap | worked |
| 19:04.24 | danwomanlap | gpasswd -a danielle video specifically |
| 19:05.13 | danwomanlap | okay, now I can use it properly... |
| 19:05.19 | pfred1 | let's see if that fixes things up |
| 19:05.24 | pfred1 | it works? |
| 19:05.27 | danwomanlap | yeah |
| 19:05.31 | pfred1 | cool |
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| 19:05.47 | pfred1 | what other groups does your user belong to? |
| 19:05.55 | pfred1 | pfred1 cdrom floppy sudo audio dip video plugdev |
| 19:06.01 | danwomanlap | how to check? |
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| 19:06.04 | pfred1 | those are the groups my user belongs to |
| 19:06.07 | pfred1 | type groups |
| 19:06.11 | pfred1 | as your user |
| 19:06.23 | kerneloopz | in a Debian control file, what options are there for the Section field? |
| 19:06.23 | danwomanlap | danielle cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev |
| 19:06.35 | pfred1 | yeah you're OK |
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| 19:06.49 | pfred1 | might want to join the sudo group if you use sudo |
| 19:06.59 | danwomanlap | just added my user manually to sudoers |
| 19:07.05 | pfred1 | that works too |
| 19:07.20 | pfred1 | but debian sets up a sudo group anyone in the group can sudo |
| 19:07.48 | pfred1 | visudo gives me a headache :) |
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| 19:10.37 | pfred1 | danwomanlap I never saw a system do what yours was doing it looks like it halfway tried to startx then just gave up |
| 19:11.09 | pfred1 | I'm thinking that it even halfway tried is a bit of a bug |
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| 19:15.22 | Cognitios | Is there a guide anywhere on installing debian with windows 7 using a USB? |
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| 19:17.04 | danwomanlap | I guess installing just a minimalist kde install is still huge, wow |
| 19:17.36 | sydney_untangle | Cognitios: Um, get the debian ISO, download unetbootin and use unetbootin to put the iso on the flash drive. |
| 19:17.59 | pfred1 | danwomanlap I run TDE |
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| 19:18.36 | pfred1 | xfce is kind of nice for a light DE |
| 19:18.46 | danwomanlap | I know a lot of DEs |
| 19:19.02 | sydney_untangle | There are alot. |
| 19:19.05 | danwomanlap | I was using xfce4 for a while, used sawfish and openbox a while ago |
| 19:19.09 | sydney_untangle | And WMs. |
| 19:19.10 | pfred1 | nah not that many |
| 19:19.18 | sydney_untangle | i3 fan. ;) |
| 19:19.25 | danwomanlap | my favourite panel is the xfce panel... |
| 19:19.37 | danwomanlap | so I'm going to try kde with xfpanel |
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| 19:19.42 | danwomanlap | or xfcepanel |
| 19:19.44 | Cognitios | sydney_untangle does it matter which iso? |
| 19:19.45 | danwomanlap | whatever it is called |
| 19:19.49 | sydney_untangle | Cognitios: No. |
| 19:20.02 | sydney_untangle | Cognitios: And if the installer ISOs should work fine. |
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| 19:20.12 | danwomanlap | honestly I could've used xfce with kwin instead |
| 19:20.15 | danwomanlap | huh |
| 19:20.17 | danwomanlap | why didn't I do that |
| 19:20.19 | Cognitios | ty |
| 19:20.22 | danwomanlap | all I'm looking for is animation... |
| 19:20.24 | pfred1 | long ago I used to run different WMs switching desktops seemed like a thing to do back then |
| 19:20.32 | sydney_untangle | Go to Unity. :P |
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| 19:21.27 | pfred1 | I don't go in for desktop effects I just had to turn off font antialiasing in my DE it was making my fonts turn red |
| 19:21.42 | danwomanlap | that's subpixel rendering though? |
| 19:21.47 | pfred1 | yes |
| 19:21.49 | danwomanlap | you just gotta turn off subpixel rendering |
| 19:21.51 | pfred1 | it was horrible |
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| 19:22.15 | danwomanlap | I just use monochromatic antialiasing |
| 19:22.20 | danwomanlap | spr is horrible |
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| 19:22.33 | danwomanlap | a big reason why I hate windows |
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| 19:22.35 | pfred1 | it sounded like a good idea |
| 19:23.23 | sydney_untangle | subpixel rendering? |
| 19:23.29 | pfred1 | yes |
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| 19:24.32 | sydney_untangle | whats that? |
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| 19:24.53 | pfred1 | sydney_untangle it makes your fonts turn red |
| 19:24.58 | sydney_untangle | Oh. |
| 19:25.01 | danwomanlap | renders fonts at the subpixel level for thinner fonts |
| 19:25.09 | sydney_untangle | that sounds odd. |
| 19:25.13 | danwomanlap | looks absolutely horrible |
| 19:25.16 | pfred1 | it is odd |
| 19:25.38 | pfred1 | yeah it makes me feel like I'm sleepy looking at my screen |
| 19:25.47 | danwomanlap | makes things hard to read |
| 19:25.48 | pfred1 | like i can't quite focus on thigns anymore |
| 19:25.50 | danwomanlap | really, really hard to read |
| 19:26.00 | flexd | Sooo.. in 1920x1080 I can play video in VLC just fine.. 2560x1440 it stutters :/ |
| 19:26.07 | flexd | and this is not even 1080 video |
| 19:26.18 | flexd | I mean the source is not |
| 19:26.20 | pfred1 | flexd try mplayer |
| 19:26.38 | sydney_untangle | video card cannot handle it it sounds. |
| 19:27.05 | flexd | Hmm it should be able to |
| 19:27.09 | pfred1 | well there are a lot of factors like what output device the player is using |
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| 19:27.17 | flexd | It's the latest i5 NUC |
| 19:27.25 | sydney_untangle | Ok, definately should. |
| 19:27.41 | flexd | Intel HD6000 integrated card |
| 19:27.41 | sydney_untangle | If it was something 9 years old i think i might have found the issue. :P |
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| 19:28.36 | sydney_untangle | flexd: Well, give another player a try... |
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| 19:28.59 | sydney_untangle | mplayer xine gnome-mplayer |
| 19:29.01 | sydney_untangle | Etc. |
| 19:29.20 | flexd | something that runs without gnome/kde? |
| 19:29.24 | flexd | I'm running i3 |
| 19:29.30 | pfred1 | mplayer stands alone |
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| 19:29.39 | sydney_untangle | flexd: Cool! me too! |
| 19:29.49 | danwomanlap | a lot of people are lately |
| 19:29.51 | teraflop | did I read xine? |
| 19:29.51 | sydney_untangle | or xine |
| 19:29.54 | flexd | mplayer seems to be a terminal program |
| 19:29.56 | sydney_untangle | yes. |
| 19:30.06 | pfred1 | when you install mplayer run mplayer -vo help and it'll list all of the different video outputs you have |
| 19:30.14 | sydney_untangle | It doesn't playthe video in terminal, just opens in terminal. |
| 19:30.15 | pfred1 | you need to find which one performs the best |
| 19:30.25 | flexd | right |
| 19:30.32 | sydney_untangle | mplayer is nice too. |
| 19:30.34 | flexd | it plays the file just fine, but full screen it's not scaled to the screen |
| 19:30.52 | sydney_untangle | Hum. |
| 19:30.56 | sydney_untangle | What format? |
| 19:31.00 | sydney_untangle | is the video |
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| 19:31.20 | flexd | mkv |
| 19:31.26 | flexd | mplayer <file> -zoom seems to work alright |
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| 19:31.37 | sydney_untangle | And if the video is not as big as the screen you would probably be stretching it quite a bit to fit. |
| 19:31.41 | flexd | nice |
| 19:31.57 | sydney_untangle | Ok, so mplayer works. |
| 19:32.01 | sydney_untangle | good. |
| 19:32.24 | sydney_untangle | And i need to go... |
| 19:32.25 | danwomanlap | dear lord kde is bigger than I thought |
| 19:32.33 | pfred1 | mplayer -vo sdl -rootwin -fs some.mkv |
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| 19:33.15 | sydney_untangle | danwomanlap: Yep. |
| 19:33.16 | flexd | pfred1: hah, that actually seg faults |
| 19:33.27 | pfred1 | you might not have sdl |
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| 19:33.40 | naptr | x |
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| 19:33.53 | flexd | haha weird, removing -vo sdl it just put the video on workspace 4 |
| 19:34.21 | tomivs | Hi, some keyboard shortcuts are not working (Fn + F6 "Lock", Fn + F7 "Brightness UP", Fn + F8 "Brightness DOWN"). However, the another shortcuts work perfectly (Fn + F5 "Suspend", Fn + F9 "Play/Pause", Fn + F10 "Stop", Fn + F11 "Prev", Fn + F11 "Next") . I have Debian Sid with GNOME 3.14.1, my computer is HP Pavilion dv9000 |
| 19:34.25 | tomivs | Plz help me |
| 19:34.28 | pfred1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:34.33 | bsdbeard | MadMan2021, beep boop |
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| 19:34.39 | flexd | pfred1: ah I see |
| 19:34.52 | pfred1 | but it seems to have changed |
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| 19:35.03 | flexd | ah makes sense, I just went to a random workspace and saw it |
| 19:35.08 | sydney_untangle | tomivs: Thats normal for a stock install. |
| 19:35.16 | flexd | eat |
| 19:35.19 | flexd | neat |
| 19:35.23 | sydney_untangle | cool. |
| 19:35.42 | flexd | that is really cool when running i3 :) |
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| 19:35.50 | pfred1 | tomivs you might have to map keys in gnome |
| 19:36.22 | pfred1 | run xev |
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| 19:36.40 | danwomanlap | hmm, kdm seems to be not in the video group |
| 19:36.46 | sydney_untangle | flexd: :) Its not near as easy in a DE that covers up the root background. |
| 19:36.56 | flexd | I bet |
| 19:37.05 | sydney_untangle | flexd: xsnow and xfishtank will run without a hitch also. |
| 19:37.22 | pfred1 | heh I haven't run xfishtank in a long time |
| 19:37.25 | flexd | Running mplayer directly from the commandline is a bit cumbersome |
| 19:37.28 | sydney_untangle | I have 2 screens, watching santa travel across both. :P |
| 19:37.29 | pfred1 | once i made custom fish for it |
| 19:37.36 | sydney_untangle | pfred1: Cool. |
| 19:37.41 | pfred1 | yeah it's not hard |
| 19:37.51 | sydney_untangle | I haven't done studying on it. |
| 19:38.19 | flexd | sydney_untangle: whats the package for xsnow/xfishtank? |
| 19:38.24 | pfred1 | I was always so proud when one of my fish swam by |
| 19:38.32 | sydney_untangle | flexd: Hum? |
| 19:38.43 | flexd | apt package I mean |
| 19:38.46 | apt | ACTION puts I mean in an unmarked cardboard box on the top shelf of an inconveniently located closet |
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| 19:38.53 | pfred1 | I need to get xroach to work again |
| 19:39.04 | flexd | I have never seen xsnow/xfishtank, and it was not in apt |
| 19:39.37 | flexd | xfishtank exists |
| 19:40.05 | pfred1 | Unpacking xfishtank (from .../xfishtank_2.2-26_i386.deb) ... |
| 19:40.15 | flexd | yeah I found that, but not xsnow :) |
| 19:40.32 | sydney_untangle | xsnow is there also, in jessie anyways. |
| 19:40.43 | flexd | not this jessie.. weird |
| 19:40.56 | sydney_untangle | What is it? |
| 19:40.56 | flexd | installed a few days ago, rc2 |
| 19:40.58 | sydney_untangle | sid? |
| 19:41.09 | sydney_untangle | Been using for 4 months. ;) |
| 19:41.17 | sydney_untangle | not long though. ;P |
| 19:41.22 | sydney_untangle | ok, i really need to go. |
| 19:41.29 | flexd | brand new machine here :) |
| 19:41.34 | sydney_untangle | ttyl. |
| 19:41.42 | flexd | oh wait, mplayer worked in 1920x1080 |
| 19:41.48 | flexd | I forgot to change resolutions.. |
| 19:41.51 | flexd | bye |
| 19:41.53 | flexd | tries it |
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| 19:42.21 | pfred1 | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xsnow Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "xsnow" |
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| 19:43.27 | flexd | 2560x1440 works |
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| 19:44.03 | sydney_untangle | Hum. Backports? |
| 19:44.17 | danwomanlap | okay I think I've fixed kdm, just waiting to check... |
| 19:44.21 | sydney_untangle | non-free |
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| 19:44.27 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. I just installed the synaptics Xorg driver from wheezy-backports and now X crashes whenever I touch the clickpad. Must I also install other Xorg parts from backports too? |
| 19:44.36 | danwomanlap | for some reason debian hates my phone being plugged in during startup... |
| 19:45.18 | petn-randall | danwomanlap: That's your BIOS thinking it's usb mass storage, and trying to boot from it. |
| 19:45.29 | danwomanlap | nah, debian's booting |
| 19:45.33 | danwomanlap | but like |
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| 19:45.51 | danwomanlap | stops at one point after starting boot and hangs on a black screen |
| 19:45.56 | danwomanlap | only while my phone is in tethered mode |
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| 19:46.09 | petn-randall | danwomanlap: And what is the OS doing? |
| 19:46.09 | danwomanlap | feh I didn't fix kdm... |
| 19:46.34 | danwomanlap | shows the bit about fsck, complains about kvm, then goes blank like it's changing vidmode |
| 19:46.38 | pfred1 | oh this is weird xdesktopwaves |
| 19:46.38 | danwomanlap | anyways it's unimportant |
| 19:46.55 | danwomanlap | x started by anyone but my user or root shows the thing, no matter what the permissions |
| 19:47.06 | Pegasus_RPG | aha /usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so: undefined symbol: LogVMessageVerbSigSafe |
| 19:47.28 | pfred1 | Pegasus_RPG time to play with nm :) |
| 19:47.35 | danwomanlap | agh I give up for now |
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| 19:47.40 | danwomanlap | I'll try some more later |
| 19:47.55 | pfred1 | danwomanlap install xdesktopwaves |
| 19:47.56 | Pegasus_RPG | pfred1: nm? |
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| 19:48.10 | pfred1 | Pegasus_RPG it displays symbols in objects |
| 19:48.16 | danwomanlap | xdesktopwaves? |
| 19:48.27 | pfred1 | danwomanlap yeah it is an X Window gimmick |
| 19:49.00 | pfred1 | danwomanlap when you move your mouse on your desktop or move a window it makes waves appear |
| 19:49.02 | danwomanlap | hmm, well currently my system is hijacked by a pseudo-user that can't access video at start, which then tries to access video |
| 19:49.56 | danwomanlap | all of these issues I have with debian are always so strange... |
| 19:50.13 | danwomanlap | like last time I had debian apt autoremoved all of the packages on my system... |
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| 19:50.20 | pfred1 | danwomanlap what version? |
| 19:50.26 | danwomanlap | nobody's figured out yet what went wrong there... |
| 19:50.38 | pfred1 | what front end did you use? |
| 19:50.43 | Pegasus_RPG | pfred1: how do I use it to find out which binary has that symbol? RUnning nm on the mentioned .so file just says "no symbols" |
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| 19:51.09 | danwomanlap | I was using crunchbang changed to debian jessie then... |
| 19:51.17 | pfred1 | Pegasus_RPG run ldd on the object that can't find its sumbol I think |
| 19:51.20 | danwomanlap | and it was just apt-get |
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| 19:51.40 | pfred1 | danwomanlap yeah apt-get should behave better than that aptitude always wants to remove everything |
| 19:52.02 | pfred1 | danwomanlap I wanted to remove a font package and aptitude wanted to remove my whole DE |
| 19:52.14 | pfred1 | I was liek whoah hold on there |
| 19:52.35 | danwomanlap | I wanted to remove wine and it just decided "SO YOU DON'T WANT GLIBC ANYMORE?" |
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| 19:52.38 | Pegasus_RPG | wtf nm says "no symbols" for everything |
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| 19:53.19 | danwomanlap | was weird |
| 19:53.30 | danwomanlap | everyone keeps telling me that should've never, ever happened |
| 19:53.57 | pfred1 | Pegasus_RPG I'm actually getting the same behavior over here |
| 19:54.17 | pfred1 | it has been a while since I've messed with it maybe it only works on static libs? |
| 19:54.39 | Pegasus_RPG | hrm "dep: xorg-input-abi-16 |
| 19:54.39 | Pegasus_RPG | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:54.44 | pfred1 | yeah it only works on statics not shared |
| 19:54.44 | Pegasus_RPG | that's a bit concerning |
| 19:54.58 | Pegasus_RPG | so how do I enable it? |
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| 19:56.21 | Pegasus_RPG | danwomansan: cross-grading from one distro to another if it has distro-modified versions of packages could cause that |
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| 19:56.46 | Pegasus_RPG | You'd need to make note of everything it's removing then re-install all of it from the new distro's repos |
| 19:56.59 | dutchfish | Pegasus_RPG, well, if you are on jessie xorg-input-abi-21 might be your ticket, rem static loading is the culprit |
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| 19:57.10 | Pegasus_RPG | dutchfish: no, wheezy |
| 19:57.13 | danwomansan | Pegasus_RPG it wasn't during the sidegrade |
| 19:57.16 | danwomansan | it was waaaay after |
| 19:57.27 | danwomansan | a full day, even! |
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| 19:57.44 | Pegasus_RPG | danwomansan: yeah I wonder if a couple of core packages were hanging around from the old distro |
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| 19:58.02 | dutchfish | ,version xorg-input-abi |
| 19:58.03 | judd | No package named 'xorg-input-abi' was found in i386. |
| 19:58.08 | Pegasus_RPG | has never cross-graded from distro to distro, only reinstalled |
| 19:58.22 | dutchfish | ,version xorg-input-abi-16 |
| 19:58.23 | judd | No package named 'xorg-input-abi-16' was found in i386. |
| 19:58.32 | Pegasus_RPG | is on amd64 |
| 19:58.38 | dutchfish | ,version xorg-input-abi-21 |
| 19:58.39 | judd | No package named 'xorg-input-abi-21' was found in i386. |
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| 19:59.22 | dutchfish | Pegasus_RPG, xorg-input-abi-21 excist in both arches, should be the same (but older) in wheezy |
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| 19:59.58 | dutchfish | Pegasus_RPG, apt-file search xorg-input-abi , will tell you |
| 20:00.43 | pfred1 | $ apt-cache search xorg-input-abi returns xserver-xorg-core here on Wheezy i386 |
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| 20:01.45 | dutchfish | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xorg-input-abi-16 |
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| 20:02.52 | Pegasus_RPG | I was afraid of that. Doubtful xserver-xorg-core from Jessie will install cleanly in Wheezy |
| 20:02.58 | pfred1 | Warning: This package is intended for the use in building debian-installer images only. Do not install it on a normal Debian system. |
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| 20:04.04 | Pegasus_RPG | So the version on the xserver-xorg-core dependency of the backported xserver-xorg-input-synaptics is WRONG? |
| 20:04.38 | dutchfish | Pegasus_RPG, well, that, or you have old components floating around |
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| 20:05.03 | dutchfish | Pegasus_RPG, also security releases have been deployed in the past |
| 20:05.47 | Pegasus_RPG | yep, trying to install the jessie version of -core causes apt to want to remove all other xserver stuff |
| 20:06.12 | dutchfish | Pegasus_RPG, dont mix releases |
| 20:06.57 | dutchfish | Pegasus_RPG, unless you can handle dependecy hell on your own |
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| 20:07.12 | Pegasus_RPG | dutchfish: sometimes I can get away with it if the dependency list of the target package is minimal. Not the case for something like X :) |
| 20:07.23 | dutchfish | right |
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| 20:11.02 | Pegasus_RPG | fixes his mess |
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| 20:13.13 | Pegasus_RPG | okay, so I'm back to where I was. My main problem is the damn Synaptics Clickpad |
| 20:14.15 | Pegasus_RPG | At some point the driver version 1.6.2-2 stops recognizing finger locations below "AreaBottomEdge" so that right-clicks aren't recognized |
| 20:14.47 | Pegasus_RPG | A previous version worked correctly in that regard but I forget which. (It was awhile ago.) |
| 20:15.01 | Pegasus_RPG | So I was jsut trying to use the newer driver to see if it had been fixed |
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| 20:17.57 | Pegasus_RPG | So must I build it from source? (Or dist-upgrade to Jessie? Any idea when it will become Stable?) |
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| 20:24.17 | antion | hmm cant join #php know why? |
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| 20:26.45 | mtn | antion: it redirects to ##php and any channel with ## needs you to be registered with freenode |
| 20:26.55 | antion | ah hmm |
| 20:27.10 | antion | im in ##javascript tho |
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| 20:27.35 | mtn | antion: ok, I guess I was wrong. I thought that was the way of things |
| 20:27.43 | antion | ok np thx |
| 20:27.50 | antion | do i register with nickserv? |
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| 20:28.18 | Rust3dCor3 | hello. how to start terminal on autostart with multiple tabs and applications in them? |
| 20:28.28 | mtn | antion: go to the freenode tab, should have info there |
| 20:28.45 | antion | freenode tab? im on irssi |
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| 20:28.58 | Rust3dCor3 | antion, connect to #freenode |
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| 20:29.13 | antion | this is freenode!? |
| 20:29.20 | Rust3dCor3 | this is debian channel |
| 20:29.24 | Rust3dCor3 | not freenode channel |
| 20:29.28 | antion | ah right |
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| 20:34.48 | Dev0n | when creating .debs from source file using checkinstall, what could cause the created .deb to not workin in another machine with the same version of debian? |
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| 20:39.25 | towo` | Dev0n, because such deb is crap |
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| 20:39.53 | towo` | Dev0n, checkinstall does not set depends for the deb |
| 20:39.57 | Dev0n | towo`, is there another package that's better or how would you recommend I create the .debs? |
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| 20:40.27 | towo` | Dev0n, dpkg-buildpackage, read the maintainers guide |
| 20:41.25 | Dev0n | gotcha, thanks |
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| 20:43.45 | Pegasus_RPG | Crap is there some way to install /usr/bin/X without pulling in all of the -video drivers? |
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| 20:45.36 | towo` | Pegasus_RPG, yes, install at least one xserver-xorg-input-foo and one xserver-xorg-video-fo |
| 20:45.46 | Pegasus_RPG | ahh cool tanks |
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| 20:46.44 | MadMan2021 | Dixi____: Looks like you got quite mode slapped on you bro. |
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| 20:49.23 | MadMan2021 | Anyone here with a Lenovo laptop having issues with trackpad on Debian. Seems like the sensitivity jumpes up every now and then. |
| 20:50.56 | Dixi____ | What? |
| 20:51.09 | Dixi____ | I got mode slapped? MadMan2021 ? |
| 20:51.53 | MadMan2021 | Hmm, you may be a different Dixi__ |
| 20:52.10 | MadMan2021 | There was I guy who I was speaking to in #Linux but he got quited. |
| 20:53.20 | SunRaycer | should I re-ask my question here (originally on OFTC) |
| 20:53.22 | kdog | what's the /msg dpkg incantation for it to show me the --get-selections --set-selections steps? |
| 20:54.10 | mtn | SunRaycer: go ahead and ask it |
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| 20:55.38 | SunRaycer | so, I rebooted my wheezy server after about 450 days and a number of apt-get upgrades and it failed to find my root partition due to failing to find my encrypted lvm volumes. the tools were all there in the maintenance shell to decrypt and activate the volumes after which it continued to boot fine. (cryptsetup, lvm vgscan, lvm vgchange) |
| 20:55.53 | SunRaycer | what likely broke (in I'm guessing an upgrade)? |
| 20:56.07 | flexd | Is this the correct format for an apt source? deb http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 20:56.23 | flexd | or do I need to do one line per 'main', 'contrib', 'non-free'? |
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| 20:56.49 | SunRaycer | flexd: I've always had all three on the same line... |
| 20:56.57 | mtn | flexd: no, they can be combined on one line |
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| 20:57.24 | flexd | right.. cool |
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| 20:59.57 | flexd | xsnow is fun :) |
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| 21:02.27 | gtristan | Hi, I'm using start-stop-daemon with --chuid name:name to start my daemon, which has some capabilities set on the executable, for some reason specifically the CAP_SYS_TIME does not give the process permission to update system time or /dev/rtc |
| 21:02.31 | gtristan | Any idea why ? |
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| 21:14.52 | barfod | My name is dlange and I am social engineer\ |
| 21:14.52 | barfod | \ hacker moo bot. / |
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| 21:16.10 | SKlogo | Any idea how i can mount my usb in read/write? |
| 21:16.19 | SKlogo | Whenever I mount it, it say's that the drive is in read only |
| 21:16.41 | SKlogo | I'm using the following command mount -o rw /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 |
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| 21:17.42 | Walex | SKlogo: probably there is a good reason why it is RO. Perhaps it is damaged. Perhaps it is NTFS and it is RW by 'root' only |
| 21:17.51 | SKlogo | it's NTFS |
| 21:17.58 | SKlogo | I'm trying to xfer files onto my windows box |
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| 21:18.09 | Pegasus_RPG | Okay, I'm trying to use the FGLRX driver for legacy cards installed via fglrx-legacy-driver in Wheezy-backports and the Xserver hangs on startup. (This also happens if I install the driver using the AMD isntaller) |
| 21:18.15 | Pegasus_RPG | How can I find out why? |
| 21:18.15 | SKlogo | my ftp server took a shit so I can't do it over the network |
| 21:18.59 | SKlogo | Walex: Ahhh, so i could perhaps cp /dir/dir /dir/dir within a root terminal? |
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| 21:19.51 | SKlogo | Walex: figured it out, thanks <3 |
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| 21:25.20 | pfred1 | Pegasus_RPG you could read all of the rants made by various people on the web over the years concerning AMD/ATI on Linux I suppose |
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| 21:27.02 | Pegasus_RPG | Everything I find on the Web says just to use the OSS drivers and that they have better 2D support. Isn't Web video a 2D operation? |
| 21:27.11 | Pegasus_RPG | pfred1: ^ |
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| 21:27.55 | Pegasus_RPG | Because watching Netflix and such on the OSS drivers has a noticeably lower frame rate and tearing is visible compared to doing the same on Windows on the same machine |
| 21:28.00 | pfred1 | Pegasus_RPG web video likely uses some form of acceleration |
| 21:28.19 | towo` | if you have used the amdinstaller on this system, your system is unsupportable fucked up |
| 21:29.01 | towo` | i would install jessie, ther the free drivers have way better support for the legacy cards than fglrx |
| 21:29.03 | pfred1 | I've used Nvidia's binary installer in Debian and it works but right now I am using the repo installed driver |
| 21:29.11 | Pegasus_RPG | I have :( It resulted in the same problem though, hanging on X start. If I change to the OSS radeon driver everything works as before though |
| 21:30.13 | pfred1 | I'm no expert but it seems some ATI/AMD hardware works better on Linux than others |
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| 21:30.43 | pfred1 | so it really depends on what you have what kind of result you get |
| 21:30.52 | towo` | amd does not support legacy cards anymore by fglrx |
| 21:31.10 | Pegasus_RPG | towo`: right, which is why I'm using the fglrx-legacy driver |
| 21:31.14 | towo` | and even new chipsets works better with radeon than fglrx |
| 21:31.46 | towo` | Pegasus_RPG, if you use a backports-kernel even, it will never work |
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| 21:32.09 | pfred1 | I've only ever tried to use 2 pieces of ATI/AMD hardware on Linux I had trouble with both of them |
| 21:32.50 | pfred1 | well video adapters AMD's CPUs seem fine |
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| 21:34.07 | Pegasus_RPG | towo`: I was using the dkms one. |
| 21:34.15 | Pegasus_RPG | FIne, screw it, back to radeon |
| 21:34.29 | Pegasus_RPG | is trying to avoid his wife rebooting the machine into Windows to watch Netflix :) |
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| 21:44.35 | adilix | hi all |
| 21:45.18 | adilix | after i installed sendmail i dont have networking anymore, i uninstalled sendmail and the same, can someone tell what happens |
| 21:46.08 | MadMan2021 | adilix: Does the interface have an IP address ? |
| 21:46.14 | adilix | no |
| 21:46.26 | adilix | i tried dhclient eth0 but nothing |
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| 22:06.11 | Danillo10 | http://pastebin.com/jEidQ4nh |
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| 22:06.17 | Danillo10 | why no read 1 or 2 ?? |
| 22:06.31 | Danillo10 | return "opcao invalida" always |
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| 22:19.12 | SKlogo | Does anybody know anything about IFS formatting? |
| 22:19.23 | SKlogo | Is it a method of compression? |
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| 22:21.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | SKlogo, IFS? |
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| 22:22.22 | SKlogo | Yep. |
| 22:22.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | SKlogo, what does it stand for, in what context? |
| 22:22.47 | SKlogo | I just pulled the HD out of my camera system and extracted all the files so I could sort through them myself |
| 22:23.24 | SKlogo | But they were all .IFS files (no idea, not familiar with the format tbh). However, within the properties it says it's a bmp image |
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| 22:24.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ah. |
| 22:24.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | Try 'file' on them to identify |
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| 22:25.49 | SKlogo | Okay |
| 22:26.23 | SKlogo | Eduard_Munteanu: Here is the output: MB00022.IFS: data |
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| 22:26.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | SKlogo, hm... try 'identify' then (it's an ImageMagick utility) |
| 22:27.16 | SKlogo | identify.im6: length and filesize do not match `MB00022.IFS' @ warning/bmp.c/ReadBMPImage/803. |
| 22:27.16 | SKlogo | identify.im6: negative or zero image size `MB00022.IFS' @ error/bmp.c/ReadBMPImage/809. |
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| 22:28.10 | SKlogo | There were thousands of IFS files... maybe the camera kinda splits them up amongst all rather then placing file by file in sequential order |
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| 22:29.06 | Bombo | does the (wheezy) totem video player use the grilo plugins? i need upnp support... i installed grilo-plugins-0.1 totem, but i don't see them in the plugin menu of totem |
| 22:29.38 | slept | I am looking for the corect name of a setup where file servers mimic a raid 5 like behaviour / each server syncs its data to the other two machines. The idea is not to lose data when one server goes up in flames. The time to "rebuild" the data is not critcal it just has to be rather painless. |
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| 22:32.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | slept, I would look into clustered / networked file systems that provide redundancy |
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| 22:37.46 | slept | Eduard_Munteanu, thanks. |
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| 22:43.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | slept, one example is Tahoe LAFS, but there are others as well |
| 22:45.17 | slept | Eduard_Munteanu, I started reading on filesystems included in debian ... |
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| 22:48.01 | nedc1 | i ran a command that brought out all files in all folders in my home dir out to ~/. am i screwed and have to re-install debian or can i do something about it? |
| 22:48.41 | slept | Eduard_Munteanu, A filesystem written in Python ? Don't get me wrong I love Python ... |
| 22:49.12 | slept | nedc1, did you copy or move the files? |
| 22:49.36 | mjt | ~/. _is_ the home dir |
| 22:50.10 | mjt | and it is just home, not the system |
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| 22:50.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | slept, it's probably not an issue for performance, if that's what you're thinking. It's mostly I/O and it uses your actual underlying filesystem to store the data, it's not a bare metal fs. |
| 22:52.09 | nedc1 | slept: move |
| 22:52.18 | nedc1 | find .-mindepth 2 -type f -exec mv "{}" . \; |
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| 23:00.31 | jhutchins | slept: Your other option is a shared SAN filesystem accessed by multiple heads. |
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| 23:01.10 | slept | nedc1, why ??? Just reinstall |
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| 23:03.00 | slept | jhutchins, it is for home use so I have to cope with an 10-20Mbit upload internet connection I guess that rules a SAN out |
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| 23:07.45 | slept | the servers will be connected over the internet. Most of the data is unique to each server. I would accept a scenario where a file can only be altered on the server from which the file originates. I guess I would also need some ldap like solution since some files are private and must not be accesed while others can be shared. |
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| 23:08.37 | ahop | Hi Are some of you familiar with systemd? |
| 23:08.48 | ahop | Or will it be a war if I start speaking about this? ;) |
| 23:08.50 | jhutchins | slept: I think you'd be better off with an offsite backup solution like crashplan. |
| 23:09.30 | jhutchins | ahop: If you have a specific support question regarding systemd we'll be glad to discuss it. |
| 23:09.51 | jhutchins | ahop: If you want to discuss it's merits this isn't the place. |
| 23:10.09 | ahop | jhutchins no no, it's a support question indeed |
| 23:10.33 | ahop | jhutchins what's the equivalent of /etc/inittab : :respawn:/sbin/getty 115200 tty... |
| 23:10.40 | ahop | in systemd ? |
| 23:11.01 | ahop | i want to disable some getty on boot |
| 23:11.02 | jhutchins | ahop: Serial console? |
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| 23:11.14 | ahop | yes |
| 23:11.19 | jhutchins | ahop: Yeah, six seems excessive these days. |
| 23:12.42 | ahop | jhutchins where's the equivalent in systemd to delete the gettys? |
| 23:12.51 | jhutchins | ahop: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/serial-console.html http://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/2o6zyz/systemd_serial_console/ |
| 23:13.12 | nedc1 | this sucks. i'm re-installing |
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| 23:21.06 | slept | jhutchins, sounds good. I would favour a debian package and I have to figure out if the sharing data aspect is included as well ... |
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| 23:22.56 | ahop | thanks jhutchins |
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| 23:25.46 | sam1 | strange, initramfs-update wasn't able to generate a cryptroot conf file under conf/conf.d/ similar to this bug https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664463 |
| 23:26.06 | ksx4system | one of /etc/init.d scripts doesn't run at system startup but "service blah start" works like a charm - what's going on? of course I did update-rc.d blah defaults |
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| 23:29.27 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 23:30.11 | Posterdati | please I've got a problem with wheezy and kde4, device notifier config could not be changed and I cannot mount disks from its menu |
| 23:30.17 | Posterdati | as normal user |
| 23:30.30 | somiaj | ksx4system: check the logs, make sure the link is present in /etc/rc2.d (most likely the run level you are using) (assuming wheezy and and sysvinit). |
| 23:30.47 | somiaj | ksx4system: sometimes a serverice tries to start 'too soon' making it fail and this can be found in the logs. |
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| 23:33.35 | ksx4system | somiaj: yup, S02blah is there |
| 23:34.29 | ksx4system | never had this specific service having any problems... excluding this Raspberry Pi |
| 23:34.29 | somiaj | ksx4system: yea check the logs, maybe /var/log/daemon.log and see if there are errors. Almost wonder if it is trying to run before another service it depends on. |
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| 23:34.52 | somiaj | yea don't know what to say, but if youa re running raspbian, you should use their support. |
| 23:34.53 | ksx4system | somiaj: it's web server, depends on nothing else afaik |
| 23:35.08 | somiaj | well it does depend on some network to bind too. |
| 23:38.11 | ksx4system | somiaj: how could I delay its startup? |
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| 23:41.16 | somiaj | ksx4system: usually this is done via the LSB Headers in the init script. But if it is for raspbian I have no desire to support or figure out what the issue is. |
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| 23:42.34 | ksx4system | that's why I actually avoid open source when possible |
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| 23:43.10 | ksx4system | used to love it but fragmentation and people's attitude made me go nearly 100% Microsoft |
| 23:43.37 | kalin00b | then why u in a linux irc |
| 23:44.36 | ksx4system | kalin00b: because I'm trying to get my GNU/Linux box to work as expected (it doesn't though it's config is 1:1 copy from working one)? |
| 23:45.20 | kalin00b | what isnt working as expected I have missed the conversation |
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| 23:45.52 | marsjaninzmarsa | hi. |
| 23:45.58 | somiaj | kalin00b: his webserver isn't start at boot, I think due to needing to fix the LSB Headers (which I have said). But I also belive he is running raspbian which is not supported here so it could be somethign else. |
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| 23:48.54 | kalin00b | the day i installed linux is the day i fell in love, i cant stand to hear complaints of it xD |
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| 23:50.04 | somiaj | kalin00b: many don't understand the reasons why #debian chooses to not support derivatives. |
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| 23:50.57 | ksx4system | kalin00b: I also felt in love but after few years (probably much more than you're using it) I actually got sick and tired of community's main message (which is to go f*** myself in most cases) |
| 23:51.52 | ksx4system | somiaj: I'd gladly use "pure" Debian on my RPi if it was *fully* supported |
| 23:51.59 | kalin00b | ive never heard that message all ive come across have been friendly to me |
| 23:52.08 | marsjaninzmarsa | ksx just loves to changing his fandom each couple years, previously Mac, then Linux, now Windows. XD |
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| 23:52.38 | ksx4system | marsjaninzmarsa, well tbh my server "fandom" was always GNU/Linux |
| 23:52.56 | ksx4system | I'm just switching my desktop boxes all around (but it's PURELY unrelated!) |
| 23:53.34 | marsjaninzmarsa | <ksx4system> somiaj: I'd gladly use "pure" Debian on my RPi if it was *fully* supported |
| 23:53.48 | marsjaninzmarsa | are Windows? |
| 23:54.05 | ksx4system | marsjaninzmarsa, ? |
| 23:54.27 | marsjaninzmarsa | are Windows is fully supported on Raspi? :D |
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| 23:54.48 | marsjaninzmarsa | duh, my English sucks. |
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| 23:57.05 | kalin00b | oh well if he wants to use windows instead his loss |
| 23:57.16 | kalin00b | but why in here complaining about it |
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| 23:59.09 | somiaj | kalin00b: he is trying to get support for raspbian. Not only did I explain where I would start to look to debug his situation, I explained to him how the volunteers here choose for social and technical reasons to only support pure debian. |
| 23:59.37 | ksx4system | kalin00b, because in this case I'd actually prefer to run Debian (or its derivative) |
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