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| 00:02.01 | JanJan | has any1 figure out how to import : Qualcomm Atheros QCA8171 Gigabit Ethernet drivers to debian 7.8 ? |
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| 00:05.26 | Brigo | JanJan, is it not in debian kernel? |
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| 00:05.54 | JanJan | Brigo: not in 7.8 , but in the unstavle 8 |
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| 00:06.01 | JanJan | unstable* |
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| 00:06.42 | Ooze | Ayy |
| 00:06.45 | Brigo | what kernel version do you need? |
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| 00:07.06 | Brigo | or the driver is not in kernel yet? |
| 00:07.10 | JanJan | Brigo: and using the wifi wlwifi firmware i get "failure of key exchange and association" even on opened WIFI |
| 00:07.11 | Ooze | So I'm able to 'start service X', how can I have it autostart instead of needing to issue that command every time? |
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| 00:07.49 | Brigo | JanJan, you are asking for a Gigabit Ethernet driver, that is not a wifi. |
| 00:08.01 | JanJan | Brigo: basicaly im not about...the "kernel" version i just want to switch from ubuntu to Debian |
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| 00:08.12 | Brigo | Ooze, jeesie with systemd? |
| 00:08.23 | Ooze | 7.8 wheezy |
| 00:08.27 | JanJan | Brigo: I'm but either is not working :) |
| 00:08.40 | JanJan | Jessies has the drivers in the kernel Wheezy doesnt |
| 00:08.53 | Ooze | er, it's service X start |
| 00:09.14 | Brigo | JanJan, i am comfused, are you talking about wheezy or unestable? wifi or etherner? |
| 00:09.55 | Brigo | Ooze, you have to create a link from /etc/init.d/service to /etc/rc.2/ if iirc. |
| 00:10.06 | JanJan | Brigo: im talking about wheezy , and bolth of them are not working. but for now lets aim at eth0 |
| 00:10.07 | Brigo | Ooze, or use update-rc. See man page |
| 00:10.28 | Brigo | JanJan, you ca use, then, 3.16 kernel from backports |
| 00:10.50 | Brigo | don't you know what a backports is? |
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| 00:11.35 | Ooze | Brigo, I have a bunch of rcS.d, rc1.d, rc2.d, etc folders |
| 00:11.42 | Ooze | Those work? |
| 00:11.51 | JanJan | Brigo: i do have backports-3.19-rc1-1 |
| 00:12.12 | Brigo | it is not a package, it is a special repository. |
| 00:12.23 | Brigo | !tell JanJan about backports |
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| 00:13.26 | Brigo | JanJan, you only have to turn on backports and install kernel from there. |
| 00:14.28 | JanJan | Brigo: its going to be long night :D never done that , ok im going to read how to do it |
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| 00:15.10 | Brigo | JanJan, it is easy just add a line in /etc/apt/sources.list ; apt-get update && apt-get install <package> -t backports. |
| 00:15.57 | Brigo | this line will work: deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main |
| 00:16.26 | Brigo | may be you need to add ' contrib non-free' if you use them |
| 00:16.33 | JanJan | Brigo: but how its going to connect to there sience i dont have internet ? or am I being very stupid ? :D |
| 00:16.50 | Brigo | ah, you don't have internet :D |
| 00:16.54 | Brigo | it will be a problem XD |
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| 00:17.13 | Brigo | JanJan, have you just installed wheezy? |
| 00:17.23 | mtn_ | if it is in jessie, he could use the jessie installer |
| 00:17.47 | JanJan | Brigo: no im on my ubuntu, beacause otherwise i dont have computer :D and im trying to figure out how to do it offline |
| 00:17.51 | mtn_ | but, of course you already know that |
| 00:17.59 | Brigo | JanJan, them may be, you need the firmware, no the drivers. :) |
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| 00:18.15 | Brigo | s/them/then |
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| 00:18.59 | Brigo | mtn_, to get the kernel? |
| 00:19.30 | mtn_ | Brigo: no, just to get a working install if he really needs the newer kernel |
| 00:19.36 | JanJan | Brigo: well its said i need iwlwifi-2030-6.code and iwlwifi-2030-5.code for wifi , but i can find only iwlwifi-2030-6 |
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| 00:20.15 | JanJan | mnt_: i tried with jessies everything worked but there are some other bugs etc and i dont want to use it untill its official |
| 00:20.17 | Brigo | JanJan, they are in firmware-iwlwifi package, just install it. |
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| 00:20.47 | JanJan | Brigo: firmware-iwlwifi_0.36+wheezy.1_all? |
| 00:21.44 | Brigo | JanJan, it could be i am not in wheezy. Let's ask judd |
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| 00:21.54 | Brigo | ,v firmware-iwlwifi |
| 00:21.55 | judd | Package: firmware-iwlwifi on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; sid/non-free: 0.43 |
| 00:22.58 | Brigo | JanJan, you can use 0.43~bpo70+1 |
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| 00:23.54 | Brigo | JanJan, you can download it from http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ |
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| 00:24.20 | JanJan | Brigo: this is for realtek my wifi is Intel |
| 00:24.35 | JanJan | Brigo: Intel Corporation Centrino Wireless-N 2230 |
| 00:25.57 | Brigo | JanJan, that was based it what you said above about iwlwifi-2030-6 and so. |
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| 00:26.44 | JanJan | Brigo: hmmm ok i will try with it too sience the installer wants it :P |
| 00:26.45 | Brigo | and this firmware is for the iwlwifi driver. |
| 00:27.09 | Brigo | JanJan, download it and install it with dpkg -i <package.deb> |
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| 00:28.07 | JanJan | Brigo: ok im starting an installation :P wish me luck |
| 00:28.26 | Brigo | JanJan, good luck! :D |
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| 00:42.16 | crised_ | Hello, I want to use packages from jessie in wheezy, should I install jessie? |
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| 00:42.34 | crised_ | or should I install only the packets needed in jessie? |
| 00:42.39 | crised_ | *in wheezy |
| 00:42.51 | crised_ | this is the packet I'm looking for |
| 00:43.03 | centrx | Don't install packages from jessie in wheezy |
| 00:43.13 | crised_ | centrx: ok |
| 00:43.15 | centrx | You can use backports (wheezy-backports), or you can upgrade to jessie |
| 00:43.36 | crised_ | centrx: is jessie somehow stable? |
| 00:43.57 | centrx | It runs well and it will be released in a few weeks |
| 00:44.17 | crised_ | centrx: I plan to do this on a raspberry pi |
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| 00:44.36 | crised_ | centrx: is it a good idea to do a dist upgrade there? |
| 00:44.47 | centrx | I don't know, it should be fine |
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| 00:45.01 | crised_ | centrx: awesome dude |
| 00:45.30 | orion | Hi. How do I build debs/dscs from repos such as this?: https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/repmgr.git/ |
| 00:45.46 | centrx | crised_, If you are currently using raspbian and cross-upgrading to jessie that may not work well |
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| 00:46.50 | crised_ | centrx: So I would need to fresh install jessie? |
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| 00:47.35 | centrx | crised_, The Debian wiki page recommends using Raspbian - https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi |
| 00:48.12 | centrx | crised_, for version 2 of Raspberry Pi - http://sjoerd.luon.net/posts/2015/02/debian-jessie-on-rpi2/ |
| 00:48.49 | crised_ | centrx: ? https://images.collabora.co.uk/rpi2/ |
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| 00:49.29 | centrx | seems legit |
| 00:50.44 | srg | What would cause this: http://pastebin.com/QjDR2Rjs the first line (with the IP) is returned immediately, the latter two lines are delayed by 5-10 seconds each. |
| 00:50.53 | srg | It already got the IP, what else is it trying to resolve? |
| 00:51.12 | crised_ | centrx: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=default§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=+libopencv2.4-java |
| 00:51.17 | crised_ | this is the package I'm searching |
| 00:51.26 | crised_ | should I just use wheezy and install this? |
| 00:51.53 | centrx | no that would upgrade you to jessie |
| 00:52.01 | centrx | libc6 specifically |
| 00:52.05 | crised_ | centrx: ? |
| 00:52.15 | centrx | it requires newer versions of libraries that it depends on |
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| 00:52.21 | centrx | you could try downloading it and compiling it |
| 00:52.22 | centrx | like so: |
| 00:52.23 | centrx | !ssb |
| 00:52.23 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 00:52.31 | centrx | so that's no backport |
| 00:52.34 | crised_ | centrx: oh... that seems complicated |
| 00:52.42 | centrx | This is to recompile from source, it's not that complicated |
| 00:52.43 | crised_ | centrx: so jessie is my shot |
| 00:52.45 | centrx | it either works or it doesn't |
| 00:52.49 | centrx | but yes jessie is a good idea |
| 00:53.02 | crised_ | centrx: mmm it sounds easier |
| 00:53.05 | crised_ | I'm happy |
| 00:53.06 | centrx | it might not be for the raspberry pi or it might work fine as it's already installed |
| 00:54.52 | crised_ | centrx: why not do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:54.57 | crised_ | in wheezie? |
| 00:55.26 | centrx | what? |
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| 00:55.49 | crised_ | centrx: Why not do the distro update in raspbian wheezy |
| 00:56.28 | centrx | it might not work, as the packages in Debian jessie were not tested for upgrades from raspbian software |
| 00:56.38 | centrx | and it might not have changes that raspbian made to some packages |
| 00:56.45 | centrx | Or it might just work, but it's a risk |
| 00:56.51 | centrx | you might need those files you linked to |
| 00:58.16 | crised_ | centrx: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/a/26042/19484 |
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| 00:58.57 | centrx | Using the raspbian repository is a good idea |
| 00:59.07 | centrx | Note there's also a channel #raspbian |
| 00:59.11 | centrx | They might know better what to do |
| 00:59.23 | crised_ | centrx: they don't answer |
| 00:59.25 | crised_ | lo |
| 00:59.26 | crised_ | lol |
| 00:59.42 | srg | That just means you haven't waited long enough ;-) |
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| 01:00.02 | crised_ | centrx: https://sites.google.com/site/onmyraspberrypi/instal-pi/jessie |
| 01:00.17 | somiaj | crised_: raspbian is not supported in #debian. |
| 01:00.23 | crised_ | somiaj: ok |
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| 01:00.51 | somiaj | but yes, you can install debian proper, and you will probabaly get better support with that at #debian-arm on irc.oftc.net (as the people who have experience with installing debian on arm may not be the biggest pool) |
| 01:01.21 | somiaj | but due to the ease of installing raspbian that is what the rasberry pi foundation recomends |
| 01:01.29 | ahtapot | is there any good for installing iceweasel on other linux than debian |
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| 01:01.42 | crised_ | somiaj: thanks, |
| 01:02.11 | centrx | ahtapot, probably only if you're distributing it e.g. as part of a distro |
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| 01:04.05 | ahtapot | centrx i guess not then. |
| 01:04.23 | beest | it's just debian's backported firefox |
| 01:04.38 | somiaj | ahtapot: the differnce between iceweasel and firefox is so small I woudln't see a point. |
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| 01:04.45 | somiaj | beest: it isn't even backported |
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| 01:05.05 | somiaj | ahtapot: the unbranding basically only removes the name firefox and any trade mark logos. The code is the same. |
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| 01:05.31 | somiaj | (funny enough the reason mozilla took away debians right to distribute their trademarks is no longer the issue since debian now uses the esr version for security) |
| 01:06.05 | gry | i'm looking for a good resource on tethering a usb mobile device to debian for wifi access, specifically 1) how to configure debian to attempt using usb for wifi 2) whether i need any drivers [i think not, it's just usb after all] |
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| 01:06.42 | ahtapot | somiaj, i didnt know it like that, thank you |
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| 01:08.04 | beest | oh yeah, i do remember they went to esr (i don't actually use X on debian) ... the rebranding's still there for familiarity now, i guess |
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| 01:11.43 | somiaj | gry: care to give more details. The easiest is to use the mobil device as a wireless hotspot, but are you wanting to get the device online though the teather or the other way around? |
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| 01:12.26 | somiaj | beest: well it makes firefox DSFG, at the time it really wasn't DSFG since the trademarks were not 'free' to use. So debian will keep doign it for that reason. |
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| 01:23.54 | gry | somiaj: the other way round. It's connected to the computer via usb. |
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| 01:25.06 | danwomansan | somewhat radical idea |
| 01:25.31 | danwomansan | install 8 with an x86_32 disc and change it to x86_64 after install |
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| 01:26.00 | danwomansan | since I only have the x86_32 jessie disc and two wheezy x86_64 discs |
| 01:26.12 | danwomansan | and the latter approach (dist-upgrade) has been a headache |
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| 01:29.15 | gry | danwomansan: what do you mean by "install 8"? |
| 01:29.48 | gry | also, how is dist-upgrade a headache? debian focuses on being unbreakable during upgrades, iirc. |
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| 01:30.27 | danwomansan | dist-upgrade made my permissions messed up so that display managers cannot access video anymore |
| 01:30.46 | gry | report that bug probably, it'll be useful for other users |
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| 01:31.39 | danwomansan | thing is, after days of trying to get through it and others trying to help, I've found out what the issue is and sort of how to fix it but I'm not sure it's going to work |
| 01:31.58 | danwomansan | mostly because of the exact display manager I'm using |
| 01:32.23 | gry | subtle bugs are rather rewarding to fix in my experience |
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| 01:32.50 | gry | with the big thanks from the original maintainers who get happy that they finally have some userbase that's alive and kicking |
| 01:33.07 | danwomansan | well, display manager having no access to video is not exactly a "subtle" bug |
| 01:33.10 | danwomansan | more like a |
| 01:33.22 | danwomansan | "lock you out of your computer for long periods of time" bug |
| 01:33.25 | gry | it's specific to a not-so-popular display manager as I could understand |
| 01:33.42 | danwomansan | no, me being unable to fix it is related to kdm |
| 01:33.55 | danwomansan | because I don't know if you can switch kdm from a pseudo-user to a real user |
| 01:33.59 | gry | (so you reporting it would be motivating to keep that display manager maintained) |
| 01:34.01 | gry | ah |
| 01:34.21 | gry | i have no idea what kdm is for some reason, but you probably would have to dig in its init script |
| 01:34.34 | gry | to make it start as another user |
| 01:34.43 | danwomansan | also, I can't find where the kdm config file is kept |
| 01:34.55 | danwomansan | well kdm is the default display manager of kde |
| 01:35.06 | danwomansan | it's not made to be manually configured at that level by the user |
| 01:35.15 | danwomansan | it's made to be configured by a tool |
| 01:35.34 | danwomansan | and assumes nobody has some potentially-catastrophic issue with their system |
| 01:36.55 | gry | the documentation says kdm is deprecated and sddm is better, but i'm reading along anyway |
| 01:37.22 | danwomansan | sddm is default for kde5 |
| 01:37.42 | danwomansan | currently the kde in jessie and wheezy is kde4 |
| 01:37.48 | danwomansan | which uses kdm] |
| 01:39.11 | gry | i just found https://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kde-workspace/kdm/index.html but i'm not sure if it has any useful startup info |
| 01:39.36 | danwomansan | all it told me was that the kdm config file is called "kdmrc" |
| 01:39.43 | danwomansan | but it doesn't say where it is |
| 01:40.23 | gry | ~/kdmrc probably |
| 01:40.27 | gry | try `locate kdmrc` |
| 01:40.48 | danwomansan | that wouldn't make sense; user configuration doesn't make sense for a dm |
| 01:40.55 | gry | or ask #kde as every person there would have it running and would be able to check this for you |
| 01:41.12 | danwomansan | freenode as well? |
| 01:41.16 | gry | yes |
| 01:41.53 | gry | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/kdm/filelist /etc/kde4/kdm/kdmrc |
| 01:41.56 | gry | hmmm |
| 01:42.17 | gry | and /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kdm/kdmrc-ref.docbook |
| 01:43.03 | gry | it's a pity i don't have tools to peek into .deb files on this computer, hmm |
| 01:43.43 | gry | i'll come back to it when i get home in the evening i think |
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| 01:44.53 | danwomansan | I'll probably be on as danwomanlap if I haven't fixed my issue by then |
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| 01:47.42 | somiaj | danwomansan: dist-upgrades are a lot easier if you install minimial system (no desktop, etc). Upgrade that. Then install the rest |
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| 01:47.57 | danwomansan | yeah that's what I did |
| 01:48.06 | danwomansan | permission issues are kind of weird though |
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| 02:29.28 | kalin00b | is there a reason i would want to create a different user to run apache than www-data |
| 02:30.49 | simonpatapon | hipster:www-data |
| 02:31.46 | kalin00b | so a different user but member of www-data group |
| 02:32.36 | abrotman | kalin00b: "well known UID" ? |
| 02:33.00 | kalin00b | right makes sense |
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| 02:33.16 | abrotman | That said, many things expect it to be that UID |
| 02:33.21 | kalin00b | i was just wondering if id mess it up by changing from www-data to something else |
| 02:33.48 | kalin00b | the guide im following says to make your own group and user for it |
| 02:33.56 | abrotman | guide? |
| 02:34.11 | kalin00b | http://code.tutsplus.com/articles/apache-2-basic-configuration-on-unix-like-systems--net-26607 |
| 02:34.20 | abrotman | what why? |
| 02:34.37 | kalin00b | because i need to configure it right and i dont know how to on my own :P |
| 02:34.58 | abrotman | What do you need to configure it to do? |
| 02:36.09 | kalin00b | be a website with a fqdn basically |
| 02:36.16 | kalin00b | something people can access |
| 02:36.39 | kalin00b | but i dont want to mess up on security |
| 02:36.52 | kalin00b | it has to be done right or not at all lol |
| 02:37.54 | dvs | kalin00b: I think configuring apache right in the .conf files is more important than the permissions of the files. |
| 02:38.08 | kalin00b | noted |
| 02:38.36 | kalin00b | ive been reading all day about setting it up now im actually trying to configure it right |
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| 02:39.05 | kalin00b | is there some specific website that would give me like excellent info |
| 02:39.16 | abrotman | !harden |
| 02:39.16 | dpkg | To secure and harden a Debian GNU/Linux system, ask me about <securing debian> and <security>. See also <security backports>, <tracker of doom>, <d:sbd>, <grsecurity>, <exec shield>. |
| 02:39.16 | kalin00b | i have like a hundred open in my browser >.> |
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| 02:40.03 | gry | take notes in a word processor instead of depending on the silly web |
| 02:40.25 | abrotman | kalin00b: the defaults are fairly sane, and keeping the server up to date, and disabling modules you odn't need are a good start |
| 02:40.34 | gry | !securing debian |
| 02:40.35 | dpkg | The Securing Debian Manual describes the security of the Debian GNU/Linux operating system and within the Debian project. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ Packaged for Debian as harden-doc. See also <manuals>. |
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| 02:40.46 | kalin00b | yeah I just messaged dpkg that :) |
| 02:40.53 | kalin00b | thanks for the tips |
| 02:41.56 | kalin00b | im sure it will take time before im satisfied enough to keep it up and running ^_^ im very picky that things be configured perfectly |
| 02:42.52 | kalin00b | spent very very many hours editing things in /etc |
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| 02:54.46 | orion | Grr |
| 02:55.40 | dvs | Good album |
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| 03:05.57 | srg | What's the best/recommended way to run a cronjob as the www-data user? |
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| 03:06.21 | srg | Put the job in /etc/crontab with the www-data user? or create a crontab for the www-data user? |
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| 03:15.50 | somiaj | srg: either should be fine. I'd suggest doing it as root in crontab, so it is easier to find/edit (as opposed to having to rember a system user has it hidden there) |
| 03:16.14 | srg | somiaj: Good idea. Thanks! |
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| 03:42.41 | buu | Is there any fantastically clever way to make scp not start a new connection for a large number of small files? |
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| 03:44.54 | somiaj | buu: I think if you actually used sftp (it is also part of sshd) as opposed to scp it may not create on process per file. |
| 03:44.59 | somiaj | sorry one connect per file |
| 03:45.27 | somiaj | but then you would need an sftp client |
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| 03:48.02 | buu | =[ |
| 03:48.10 | buu | That does not thrill me. |
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| 04:11.03 | somiaj | buu: man sftp |
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| 04:13.01 | JanJan | Guyz i need help i've just installed Debian 7.8 and i got blinking black coursor and no log in screen - 7.8 net mirror install x64 video card Nvidia |
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| 04:24.33 | danwomanlap | whenever I try to install any desktop environments I get returned a 403 forbidden for geoclue... |
| 04:24.39 | danwomanlap | should I change my mirror? |
| 04:27.25 | gry | i'm looking for a good resource on tethering a usb mobile device to debian for wifi access, device already has wifi and debian needs to get it from the mobile over a usb cable; specifically 1) how to configure debian to attempt using usb for wifi 2) whether i need any drivers [i think not, it's just usb after all] |
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| 04:27.50 | gry | danwomanlap: paste the error msg please, looks odd |
| 04:27.55 | orion | Hi. git-buildpackage is building a mixed source/binary package. How do I get it to only build a source package? |
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| 04:28.40 | danwomanlap | hmm.. can't paste, hope I can type it right, gry |
| 04:28.49 | gry | select and middle click |
| 04:28.53 | gry | middle click would paste |
| 04:28.57 | danwomanlap | uh |
| 04:29.06 | danwomanlap | I'm on irc on a different computer entirely |
| 04:29.08 | gry | if you're in tty1: install gpm, it'll give you a mouse there |
| 04:29.09 | gry | ah |
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| 04:29.11 | gry | ok |
| 04:29.52 | danwomanlap | it's a few lines, 3 to be exact |
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| 04:29.59 | danwomanlap | hopefully 3 is not the "flood limit" |
| 04:30.04 | danwomanlap | going to write them in manually |
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| 04:30.44 | danwomanlap | Err http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/debian.org/debian jessie/main geoclue-2.0 amd64 2.1.10-2 403 forbidden |
| 04:30.53 | danwomanlap | Unable to correct missing packages |
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| 04:31.43 | danwomanlap | E: Failed to fetch http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/geoclue-2.0_2.1.10-2_amd64.deb 403 Forbidden |
| 04:31.47 | danwomanlap | and then it aborted the install |
| 04:31.51 | buu | Sounds like changing mirrors is a good idea |
| 04:32.27 | danwomanlap | time to find mirrors to switch to then... |
| 04:32.44 | karlpinc | gry: I did tethering. I don't recall any details. It "just worked". |
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| 04:32.52 | gry | ok |
| 04:33.26 | karlpinc | gry: You need to know the network nic name. Look in the dmsg output after plugging in. Then setup the interface in the interfaces file as usual, using dhcp. |
| 04:33.51 | karlpinc | gry: I think that's what I recall. |
| 04:34.03 | gry | pastebin your interfaces file entry for usb0 ? |
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| 04:35.06 | karlpinc | gry: I don't have it handy. I think it was the stock "iface usb0 inet dhcp". I think I added it to the auto clause too. I forget. |
| 04:35.25 | gry | ah ok maybe i already have one such entry on another box. thank you. |
| 04:37.07 | karlpinc | gry: What was complicated was: A) Making sure you use a real usb cable, not one that just has the power wires. B) Telling my android phone that I wanted tethering. (Seems if you turn off the "automatic music device" usb interface then it turns off tethering too.) |
| 04:38.00 | karlpinc | gry: (Maybe it was the hotplug clause?, not the auto clause?) |
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| 04:42.01 | danwomanlap | switching mirrors fixed the thing |
| 04:42.19 | danwomanlap | thing is now thing, huzzah for thing |
| 04:42.47 | gry | complain to the guys running the old mirror so that they fix it? |
| 04:42.50 | gry | karlpinc: ok thanks |
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| 04:43.31 | danwomanlap | nah too lazy, it's a big enough problem someone not lazy will run into it soon enough |
| 04:43.36 | danwomanlap | excuse the horrible mindset |
| 04:44.11 | danwomanlap | just dislike communicating things enough to not report bugs |
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| 04:59.50 | TRAINBIKE | do I need to download the newest net install images or is using an old CD (lets say 7.7.0) still ok and up to date? |
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| 05:00.09 | RayzrShrp | anybody awake |
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| 05:07.21 | danwomansan | uh, does debian not allow x86_32 packages on x86_64 systems? |
| 05:07.29 | danwomansan | er, i386/amd64 |
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| 05:18.36 | trae32566[w] | danwomansan: multiarch |
| 05:19.09 | trae32566[w] | also there is no such thing as x86_32, it's just x86 or ia32 |
| 05:19.32 | trae32566[w] | danwomansan: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
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| 05:19.58 | danwomansan | 32-bit x86 is an extension of the original x86 architecture, which was 8-bit in its original form, then later 16-bit |
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| 05:20.26 | danwomansan | "x86_32" is a 100% accurate description of what people often simply refer to as x86 |
| 05:20.56 | danwomansan | and x86_32/x86_64 is far more accurate and makes far more sense than x86/x64 |
| 05:21.23 | trae32566[w] | danwomansan: if you want to really be correct, it's not x86_64 either, it'd initially have been amd64 :) |
| 05:21.45 | trae32566[w] | considering AMD created it and all :) |
| 05:21.54 | danwomansan | sometimes you trade off a bit of technicality for sense |
| 05:22.07 | trae32566[w] | not really, not in that case |
| 05:22.14 | trae32566[w] | nobody refers to it as x86_32 |
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| 05:22.29 | trae32566[w] | I can't find a single reference anywhere of importance that does |
| 05:22.52 | danwomansan | I know a fair few people who do but it's not exactly important |
| 05:23.02 | danwomansan | it gets across my point |
| 05:23.14 | danwomansan | and it's also easier for new users to pick up |
| 05:23.22 | trae32566[w] | yes, I was just pointing it out. Did you read the docs on multiarch? |
| 05:23.35 | danwomansan | at first I thought "i386" and "amd64" were completely unrelated architectures |
| 05:23.39 | danwomansan | yes I did |
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| 05:24.28 | trae32566[w] | danwomansan: depending on what it is you're doing, you'll probably need ia32-libs and some other stuff |
| 05:25.00 | danwomansan | I updated apt and I can depend on it to pull dependencies |
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| 05:25.34 | The_Ball | I'm trying to launch targetcli (as root), but I'm getting Operation not permitted: '/sys/kernel/config/target' any ideas? |
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| 05:25.58 | trae32566[w] | errrrrr not sure, don't have a system I can test with right now |
| 05:26.10 | trae32566[w] | also, I'm a RHEL guy, I just help out where I can <.< |
| 05:26.28 | trae32566[w] | checked dmesg and /var/log/messages? |
| 05:26.44 | The_Ball | Yeah, empty |
| 05:27.07 | trae32566[w] | what release? |
| 05:27.17 | The_Ball | it's a python os.mkdir() call, so root isn't allowed to create the directory |
| 05:27.30 | The_Ball | 7.8 (wheezy) |
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| 05:27.50 | The_Ball | I do have ZFS compiled in which is the only non-standard part |
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| 05:28.19 | trae32566[w] | I'm not quite sure |
| 05:28.24 | trae32566[w] | sorry :X |
| 05:28.24 | somiaj | The_Ball: /sys is part of the kernel file system, it could be you don't have the correct module loaded to do what you want to do. |
| 05:28.40 | valdyn | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751226 |
| 05:29.01 | trae32566[w] | I think I saw that |
| 05:29.03 | trae32566[w] | yeah, I did |
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| 05:29.34 | somiaj | ,v targetcli |
| 05:29.35 | judd | Package: targetcli on i386 -- wheezy: 2.0rc1-2; sid: 3.0+git0.7e32595e-2; experimental: 1:3.0~pre4.1~ga55d018-1 |
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| 05:29.57 | somiaj | that doesn't look like it effects the wheezy version. |
| 05:30.03 | somiaj | The_Ball: What kernel are you using? |
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| 05:30.45 | valdyn | he's probably using a now obsolete jessie version |
| 05:31.06 | somiaj | " targetcli uses configFS for its configuration. All storage objects can be accessed and exported, so the configFS module must be loaded and configFS must be mounted. Mount configFS at /sys/kernel/config" -- or could it be an issue with that, that might not be done by default. |
| 05:31.11 | The_Ball | Linux nas 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt7-1~bpo70+1 (2015-04-07) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 05:31.37 | valdyn | The_Ball: which version of the targetcli package? |
| 05:31.51 | The_Ball | lsmod | grep config\n configfs 31707 3 target_core_mod,netconsole |
| 05:32.04 | somiaj | I'm wondering if the configFS just needs to be mounted in /sys/kernel/config other wise it can't do what it needs to. |
| 05:32.16 | The_Ball | targetcli 2.0rc1-2 |
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| 05:32.41 | somiaj | The_Ball: and ls -l /sys/kernel/config shows all the files, i.e. you have configfs mounted. 'mount -t configfs configfs /sys/kernel/config' |
| 05:32.45 | sheap | is it possible to install wheezy onto virtualbox raid 0 or 1? |
| 05:32.53 | The_Ball | BINGO, this fixed it: mount -t configfs none /sys/kernel/config/ |
| 05:33.05 | The_Ball | thansk somiaj |
| 05:33.10 | somiaj | The_Ball: "configfs /sys/kernel/config configfs defaults 1 1" you can put that in your /etc/fstab to make it mount automatically |
| 05:33.14 | somiaj | The_Ball: just reading the docs. (: |
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| 07:14.33 | Sharcoux | Hello, I developed a free java software for education. The software is cross-platform and so I would like to create a .deb package, but I'm not very comfortable with GNU/Linux. How can I get help to create it correcly ? |
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| 07:16.57 | buu | Sharcoux: I suspect there's a mailing list |
| 07:17.12 | buu | Sharcoux: http://mentors.debian.net/ |
| 07:17.21 | Sharcoux | Thanks ! |
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| 08:57.11 | malade_mental | Hi people, I try to add specific user fonts into my ~/.fonts directory but it doesn't work. when I do "fc-cache -fv" as my user it finds 2 new fonts, but the when I do fc-list it doesn't show them. Any tips? |
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| 08:58.07 | malade_mental | The fonts I got are from https://github.com/phallus/fonts |
| 08:58.21 | malade_mental | And I used the install script to put them |
| 08:58.50 | malade_mental | (I'm on debian wheezy btw) |
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| 09:01.01 | malade_mental | fc-list only show fonts from the /usr/share/fonts directory |
| 09:02.09 | SynrGy | i'm not on wheezy. am on sid. but fc-list does show fonts from ~/.fonts |
| 09:02.31 | SynrGy | ,v fontconfig |
| 09:02.32 | judd | Package: fontconfig on i386 -- squeeze: 2.8.0-2.1; wheezy: 2.9.0-7.1; jessie: 2.11.0-6.3; sid: 2.11.0-6.3 |
| 09:04.17 | SynrGy | unfortunately no backport of it |
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| 09:13.51 | isthisreallife | hi |
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| 09:14.18 | isthisreallife | RhodiumToad scp root@addrress:../home/tra/somename_Db.dump.out /home |
| 09:14.26 | isthisreallife | and i get Permission denied |
| 09:14.32 | isthisreallife | how to fix it? |
| 09:14.44 | masterbootrecord | chown /home |
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| 09:15.21 | isthisreallife | ? |
| 09:15.53 | polygraphed | isthisreallife: would you like to start a conference call or something? |
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| 09:16.24 | masterbootrecord | isthisreallife, you can first use the chown command to take ownershipof /home as your normal/sudoers user then recursively chmod /home to set permissions to 0744 or 0755 |
| 09:17.00 | masterbootrecord | ## sudo chown <username> -Rfv /home |
| 09:17.07 | polygraphed | masterbootrecord: have you ever played with sshfs? |
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| 09:17.31 | masterbootrecord | ## sudo chmod -Rfv 0755 /home |
| 09:17.55 | polygraphed | # sudo |
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| 09:18.54 | warbaque | why isn't my samba share setting execute bits for group and other |
| 09:19.00 | polygraphed | masterbootrecord: their permissions error could also be on the remote host. |
| 09:19.33 | masterbootrecord | i see, came in late, this is a samba/smb issue? |
| 09:19.52 | polygraphed | masterbootrecord: meh? you talkin ta me? |
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| 09:20.29 | warbaque | masterbootrecord: I have problem with samba |
| 09:20.32 | masterbootrecord | polygraphed, no, sorry, forgot to put username, still unfgamiliar with good irc practices |
| 09:21.18 | polygraphed | masterbootrecord: the best IRC practice: there is no best practice. |
| 09:21.19 | masterbootrecord | spent too m,uch time in front of bash and forget that real life hum,ans respond differently :P |
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| 09:21.33 | polygraphed | masterbootrecord: probably the best rule: prepared to be kicked! |
| 09:21.46 | polygraphed | be prepared* |
| 09:22.01 | polygraphed | your liking of my english yes? |
| 09:22.03 | masterbootrecord | polygraphed rofl |
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| 09:23.27 | masterbootrecord | how I mamke my webchat session connect to more irc channels? |
| 09:23.59 | warbaque | /join another_channel? |
| 09:24.19 | masterbootrecord | thank you |
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| 09:26.15 | likecolacola | can somebody point me out on how to uninstall a program that's not part of the repository ? |
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| 09:27.09 | warbaque | how did you install? |
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| 09:27.35 | masterbootrecord | likecolacola have you tried to decompile the package with dpkg directly? |
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| 09:28.19 | likecolacola | masterbootrecord, no, i am starting fresh now |
| 09:29.18 | likecolacola | hehe, that's going to be my first try now that you suggested :p |
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| 09:29.52 | masterbootrecord | likecolacola, as warbque asked how was it installed, curious to know the manner you did this if not with apt and repos in sources? |
| 09:29.58 | masterbootrecord | :P |
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| 09:31.45 | likecolacola | masterbootrecord, oh, i missed warbaque message... to be honest THAT's the first thing i will do xD, review on how i installed it.. it's odoo(openerp), once i am clear on what i did i will try to revert xd |
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| 09:37.02 | likecolacola | i installed it like a month ago and did not touch it.. |
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| 09:44.54 | MeteorCurse | hi can someone help me understand this log? http://pastebin.com/Cz98iERU |
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| 09:46.20 | epsilon | something[tm] went wrong and kernel didnt like it |
| 09:47.10 | tremon | MeteorCurse: looks like either out of memory, bad sectors on your swap partition or memory corruption to me |
| 09:47.35 | MeteorCurse | i need a bit help translate the code and stack |
| 09:47.57 | epsilon | what was this PID and is your box running at limit somewhere? |
| 09:48.37 | MeteorCurse | just rebooted its my own machine |
| 09:48.59 | MeteorCurse | dont know what the pid was |
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| 09:50.00 | tremon | start-stop-daemon |
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| 09:50.23 | epsilon | did the mashin totaly crash, or just the service? |
| 09:51.02 | jelly | MeteorCurse: what kind of hardware does this machine have (cpu)? |
| 09:51.35 | jelly | (and amount of RAM?) |
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| 09:51.49 | jelly | the -486 kernel build is probably suboptimal |
| 09:52.53 | tremon | ah good catch, hadn't seen that. judging by motherboard name, it's a pentium 4 cpu |
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| 09:53.47 | Meteorite | sorry just crashed again |
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| 09:54.22 | Meteorite | can u guys repost any comment from did the mashin totaly crash, or just the service? |
| 09:55.14 | buu | What is a mashin? |
| 09:55.25 | tremon | Meteorite: install memtest86, let it run overnight |
| 09:56.06 | Meteorite | i have an memtest86 in boot |
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| 09:56.27 | tremon | then skip the install step :) |
| 09:56.36 | Meteorite | tremon, ok |
| 09:56.43 | epsilon | what is P4 again, x32 Kernel? |
| 09:56.51 | jelly | MeteorCurse: what kind of hardware does this machine have (cpu, ram)? |
| 09:56.51 | Meteorite | pentium 4 |
| 09:56.52 | tremon | also, as jelly said, you probably shouldn't be using the -486 kernel |
| 09:56.54 | epsilon | long time ago... |
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| 09:57.27 | jelly | Meteorite: what does grep '\blm\b' /proc/cpuinfo say? |
| 09:58.15 | epsilon | try i686 Kernel |
| 09:58.31 | jelly | let's see whether it's a 64bit capable P4 or not, first |
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| 09:58.57 | Meteorite | 32 bit |
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| 09:59.13 | tremon | jelly: iirc the P4 models had intel's em64t, with somewhat hacked-on translation for the amd64 isa. those processors performed better in 32-bit mode |
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| 09:59.19 | jelly | Meteorite: does that grep command return any output? |
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| 09:59.55 | Meteorite | nope |
| 10:00.13 | Meteorite | sudo cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep '\blm\b' nothing |
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| 10:00.58 | tremon | it's a good thing process id's aren't a scarce resouce :D |
| 10:01.22 | jelly | Meteorite: this probably wont solve your issue, but go install "linux-image-686-pae" and reboot into that kernel |
| 10:02.02 | Meteorite | crashes |
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| 10:02.52 | jelly | Meteorite: it might be crashing because it uses the whole amount of RAM, and some of your RAM is bad |
| 10:03.20 | Meteorite | http://pastebin.com/h4p3SUZQ cpu info |
| 10:03.43 | Meteorite | ill do memtest |
| 10:03.55 | jelly | leave it running for 12-24 hours |
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| 10:04.08 | Meteorite | ok |
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| 10:04.45 | aeg | sounds like a old Dell that needs extra cooling like yesterday |
| 10:05.15 | Meteorite | lol |
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| 10:05.43 | Meteorite | computers are expensive i might buy a rapeberry pi |
| 10:05.50 | Meteorite | lol |
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| 10:08.28 | Panikku | hello |
| 10:08.41 | warbaque | c2d computers (used) are around 30â¬, around cost of raspi |
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| 10:11.49 | crised_ | warbaque: whats a c2d computer? |
| 10:12.07 | kodapa | core2duo |
| 10:12.08 | kodapa | duh |
| 10:12.16 | kodapa | old crap |
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| 10:12.35 | warbaque | but for most purposes better than raspi |
| 10:12.42 | kodapa | yah |
| 10:13.02 | kodapa | I don't understand all the hype round raspi, in my eyes it's crap |
| 10:13.07 | jelly | kodapa: it's much newer crap than a P4, and offering better performance per watt |
| 10:13.16 | kodapa | jelly: sure |
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| 10:17.13 | jelly | "crap" is a relative term. Now they have an actual armhf capable model, the cpu core is not horribly outdated |
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| 10:17.50 | jelly | it's merely outdated, like the c2d workstation I'm writing this from |
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| 10:20.11 | JarJarBinks | Hi, I'm trying to get a cronjob to run the first monday of each month. I have written 30 08 1-7 * 1 in crontab, but appearently this means run on the 1-7th of the month AND every monday. So it runs approx 10 times during a month. How could I specify first monday of the month? |
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| 10:21.30 | JarJarBinks | The behavour I'm refering to is described in man 5 crontab ( search for 'day of a command' ) |
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| 10:22.53 | jelly | JarJarBinks: man 5 crontab, section EXAMPLE CRON FILE, look at "Run on every second Saturday of the month" example |
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| 10:24.11 | JarJarBinks | jelly: thx a lot. That example is not in my man. ANACRONTAB |
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| 10:24.25 | JarJarBinks | jelly: could you paste in private message? |
| 10:25.07 | jelly | JarJarBinks: which debian release are you using? It's similar to http://stackoverflow.com/a/3242169 |
| 10:25.14 | tremon | JarJarBinks: http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=crontab&sektion=5 |
| 10:25.39 | jelly | heh, "sektion=" |
| 10:26.16 | tuxcrafter | guestion is this file parshed by debian ?/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades.dpkg-old |
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| 10:28.40 | tremon | tuxcrafter: it shouldn't, but you can verify with apt-config dump (assuming the .dpkg-old has lines that don't occur in other files) |
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| 10:29.23 | JarJarBinks | jelly: tremon: thx a lot, I see the example... Quite nasty :) |
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| 10:29.59 | tuxcrafter | Dir::Ignore-Files-Silently:: "\.dpkg-[a-z]+$"; |
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| 10:33.59 | tremon | so it seems even the ignore list is configurable |
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| 10:39.05 | crised_ | How to install family of packagges? |
| 10:39.16 | crised_ | for example all packages related to libopencv2.4? |
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| 10:53.16 | petn-randall | crised_: How are they all "related"? |
| 10:54.31 | tremon | crised_: that's usually done through metapackages (at maintainer discretion). There's not an easy way to do that as an end user |
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| 10:57.21 | tremon | you could use something like equivs to create a custom package that Depends: on the packages you want |
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| 10:58.01 | tremon | or use an aptitude hammer: aptitude -s install ~nopencv2.4 |
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| 11:24.01 | likecolacola | i upgraded debian stable to testing after months of stable usage... and now a package, postgresql is broken, it does not works, even after removing/installing it again |
| 11:24.45 | likecolacola | after the upgrade, postgresql9.1 was left installed and postgresql9.4 was installed on top of it and there was a warning message |
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| 11:25.18 | likecolacola | so i removed both and proceed to install postgresql9.4 fresh new and now it's broken |
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| 11:28.49 | MeteorCurse | Hi im back with results from my memory |
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| 11:29.50 | MeteorCurse | 7 times in randomly i get 0003437987c bad in same bit |
| 11:30.25 | MeteorCurse | now how do i remove that memory location from beiing used ever again? |
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| 11:30.57 | tremon | MeteorCurse: I don't think you can. You can only remove the faulty memory module from your system (physically) |
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| 11:32.01 | MeteorCurse | illask google lol |
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| 11:34.22 | petn-randall | likecolacola: Postgres 9.1 and 9.4 can be installed in parallel, they touch none of each others files. What is the error you get? |
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| 11:38.46 | likecolacola | petn-randall, when i install postgresql the user postgres is not created automatically, i created it and tried to create a database and got this error http://pastebin.com/vKAaqp26 , then i do pg_ctlcluster 9.4 main start as suggested in #postgresql and get http://pastebin.com/kEEy6X5R |
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| 11:39.56 | likecolacola | so i am trying to google myself out of this, add i could find is --- postgresql-doc (UNSATISFIED) when browsing aptitude -f on postgresql |
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| 11:40.04 | likecolacola | s/add/all |
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| 11:40.37 | petn-randall | likecolacola: What does 'apt-get install -f', 'dpkg --configure -a' and 'pg_lsclusters' output? â http://paste.debian.net |
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| 11:42.31 | likecolacola | http://paste.debian.net/166073 |
| 11:43.16 | petn-randall | likecolacola: Ok, the error message you got pretty much sums it up. |
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| 11:43.39 | petn-randall | likecolacola: The cluster couldn't start because it can't access the snakoil certificate. |
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| 11:45.13 | likecolacola | oh.. |
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| 11:47.43 | likecolacola | petn-randall, could you give me a hint on what's it about..?, i am kind of beginning and find myself doing google for snakeoil certificate but at the same time i got suggested in #postgresql that i had to fix permissions, but oh well... a filesystem is crowed with permissions xd |
| 11:48.02 | likecolacola | and most important, why is this broken xd |
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| 11:49.52 | likecolacola | petn-randall, oh... just found the error you were talking about lol, i need to learn to read |
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| 11:53.37 | mattboll | hi, i've got some troubles understanding packages creation. i've got a simple bash script, i cp it to debian/usr/bin and my package work but how do i automatically do this cp ? |
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| 11:55.37 | mattboll | is it the purpose of rules file ? must i do a makefile to cp my script to debian/usr/bin ? |
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| 11:56.54 | mattboll | and / or do you know any package that just contains a shell script ? |
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| 12:01.33 | Curtman | I'm trying to change the user of transmission-daemon. For some reason when I chown /var/lib/transmission-daemon, it doesn't change. Can anyone tell me whats happening here? http://pastebin.com/4GCMdfQ3 |
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| 12:03.46 | petn-randall | Curtman: What is the uid for p2p? |
| 12:03.52 | Curtman | 520 |
| 12:04.29 | petn-randall | Curtman: Then it "worked", and you just borked your system by assigning the same uid to two different users. |
| 12:04.41 | Curtman | Oh crap.. There's two 520 users in /etc/passwd. Dumb |
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| 12:05.04 | petn-randall | Curtman: You should *never* edit that file by hand. |
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| 12:05.24 | likecolacola | petn-randall, the permissions of the folder/file /etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key are right, yet i get this permission denied thing |
| 12:05.34 | petn-randall | likecolacola: Show me |
| 12:05.45 | tremon | mattboll: that's better asked in #debian-mentors on OFTC. But yes, I believe you need a makefile as the package contents are created by a debuild make invocation |
| 12:06.28 | likecolacola | drwx--x--- 2 root ssl-cert 4096 Aug 1 2013 . |
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| 12:06.47 | likecolacola | wait no.. |
| 12:07.04 | Deniska80 | Hello. Is there any way to exclude from rsync files only? For example --exclude '*.core' exculdes core-files, but it also exclude directories like main.core an so on. i need some rule like '*.core$', where $ indicates end of line.. but can't figure how to do it ^( |
| 12:07.16 | petn-randall | likecolacola: Did you change anything in the init script, or create the /system/ user postgres by hand? |
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| 12:07.35 | likecolacola | petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/166076 |
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| 12:08.04 | likecolacola | yes, i created the postgresql by hand |
| 12:08.35 | likecolacola | as i could not su - postgres after installing postgresql and got suggested to create it by hand in #postgresql |
| 12:08.48 | SimonB__ | This is more of a minor annoyance, but I've been running Jessie for around 13months and for most of those, with apt-get upgrades (and even dist-upgrades) db5.1-util is always held back. How would I find out why its being held back? |
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| 12:09.16 | petn-randall | SimonB__: This is a question for #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 12:09.24 | petn-randall | (where jessie is supported) |
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| 12:09.52 | SimonB__ | petn-randall: Ahh fair enough. Will do. |
| 12:10.00 | petn-randall | likecolacola: the user postgres should be part of the ssl-cert group. |
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| 12:11.19 | MeteorCurse | FOLOW-UP bad memory issue. edit /etc/default/grub add GRUB_BADRAM="0x0003437987c" and the run update-grub and reboot |
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| 12:12.16 | MeteorCurse | now i need to see id my kernel blocked that part ram |
| 12:12.32 | tremon | Deniska80: --exclude '.core' --include '.core/' ? |
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| 12:13.36 | likecolacola | petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/166079 |
| 12:13.45 | Deniska80 | tremon: hm.. interesting, wait. and what priority of exculde and include? :) who is more powerfull ? |
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| 12:14.15 | likecolacola | i will try with odoo |
| 12:14.16 | likecolacola | user |
| 12:14.19 | tremon | Deniska80: not sure, I'd suggest to try both :) |
| 12:14.21 | SimonB__ | Problem solved anyway. I was just looking at the dependencies (on and for that package) and removed it. |
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| 12:15.10 | Deniska80 | tremon : btw it doesn't work ^( directories excludes anyway |
| 12:15.15 | petn-randall | likecolacola: su - postgres, then try to cd into that dir and read that file. |
| 12:15.15 | tremon | MeteorCurse: thanks for following up |
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| 12:15.39 | MeteorCurse | np |
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| 12:16.09 | MeteorCurse | my question is how can i confirm that memory area is blocked |
| 12:16.35 | Deniska80 | tremon: but you're on right way ^) seems to me changing order works ^) --include "*.log/" --exclude "*.log", THX |
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| 12:18.41 | likecolacola | petn-randall, that error got already solved, now i have another error but i think i know what happened |
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| 12:19.01 | tremon | MeteorCurse: if I remember correctly, you said that the -686 kernel crashed almost immediately right? So try to boot it and see if it crashes :) |
| 12:19.16 | likecolacola | petn-randall, i am in a big hurry, i am already late... later i will connect and try to explain what happened, i think i installer postgree last time from a odoo source that will make odoo the main user of postgresql instead of postgre |
| 12:19.17 | MeteorCurse | yes i can try that lol |
| 12:19.22 | likecolacola | now i have to go, thanks a lot for your help |
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| 12:19.43 | petn-randall | likecolacola: you're welcome. No idea what odoo is, though. |
| 12:19.49 | petn-randall | damnit |
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| 12:20.50 | PercyB | I have a problematic ralink rt2500 wifi card. In network manager I can see the networks from certain APs and can use time. Sometimes I see the networks but it disconnects all the time. Now with a specific router I cannot see the wlan in the network-manager, but it shows it after iwlist scanning. |
| 12:21.45 | PercyB | As essid it gives me "\x00\x00\x00\x00" Could someone maybe point in the right direction if this issue can be solved? |
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| 12:23.24 | crlndrssn | what happened with the updates on jessie yesterday? |
| 12:23.32 | PercyB | btw after reading the bug reports I used iwconfig wlan0 power off - it still does not show wlan networks... maybe I should try to connect without the network manager... |
| 12:23.35 | MeteorCurse | PercyB i had similar problems in pas . ubuntu 12.04 and debian whezzy worked great |
| 12:23.35 | jelly | crlndrssn: dunno, what happened? |
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| 12:24.17 | crlndrssn | I had no network connection when i booted today, rebooted fixed this |
| 12:24.20 | PercyB | MeteorCurse Hmm, I'm on jessie and with certain APs it works fine, sometimes it's just not useable |
| 12:24.31 | MeteorCurse | PercyB, i found also using iwconfig wlan0 power off |
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| 12:24.37 | MeteorCurse | try that |
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| 12:24.48 | crlndrssn | Now recently i had my screen flickering, reboot fixed that |
| 12:24.54 | PercyB | MeteorCurse Yep, I did try it already |
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| 12:25.22 | MeteorCurse | PercyB, that solved me a bug with my wifi |
| 12:25.24 | PercyB | MeteorCurse The strange thing is that it "sees" the wlan after the iwlist scanning command but it's NOT in the network manager |
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| 12:26.36 | MeteorCurse | PercyB, does it have a good signal? |
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| 12:27.54 | bezaban | if a machine runs low on entropy (cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail) will/can this manifest itself as extreme CPU load |
| 12:27.58 | PercyB | MeteorCurse Quality=50/70 Signal level=-60 dBm What I just noticed: |
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| 12:28.23 | MeteorCurse | sometimes i only get my wifi on network manager after iw wlan0 scan |
| 12:28.45 | PercyB | MeteorCurse I just tried to create a new network connection and the "enter password to unlock your login keyring" popped up |
| 12:29.33 | MeteorCurse | check the autoconect box |
| 12:29.50 | MeteorCurse | i mean activate it |
| 12:29.54 | PercyB | MeteorCurse THANKS! That iw wlan0 scan did get it work!! |
| 12:30.08 | MeteorCurse | np |
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| 12:32.08 | PercyB | MeteorCurse Wow, just tried everything I could and now it just started to work. That command should be mentioned in those bug reports too - unfortunately I'm not registered for that site. Great, thanks again. |
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| 12:33.02 | jelly | bezaban: only if your app is worribly written and busy-loops on /dev/random input |
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| 12:33.29 | jelly | bezaban: quick workaround: install haveged |
| 12:33.40 | jelly | ,v haveged |
| 12:33.41 | judd | Package: haveged on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1.1-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.4-4; wheezy-backports: 1.9.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9.1-1; sid: 1.9.1-1 |
| 12:33.54 | jelly | bezaban: the version from backports. |
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| 12:36.12 | bezaban | jelly: yeah, looked into haveged, but will be backing this machine with crypto hardware soon anyway |
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| 12:36.23 | jelly | ooh, shiny |
| 12:36.26 | bezaban | indeed :) |
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| 12:36.53 | bezaban | just I get some CPU spikes which renders this VM unresponsive, happens every 6 months or so |
| 12:37.37 | bezaban | I am also looking into virtualization specific issues, as I see someone has assigned more CPUs to it, which isn't necessarily a good thing |
| 12:37.43 | bezaban | vcpus* |
| 12:37.43 | jelly | atop logs might show something or not |
| 12:37.56 | bezaban | can't find anything obvious in logs :( |
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| 12:38.43 | bezaban | software is overdue for an upgrade too and I know there have been improvements, just don't want to deal with this on call ;) |
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| 12:41.51 | bezaban | it's a rare enough occurence that it hasn't been investigated properly, especially since it's scheduled for replacement :/ |
| 12:42.17 | jelly | once every 6 months would be on "meh" priority for me |
| 12:42.41 | bezaban | exactly, just that it's SLA bound. But once I get the alarm it's up in a matter of seconds, so yeah - meh. |
| 12:43.13 | jelly | automate restarts when that alert comes :-) |
| 12:43.20 | jelly | </evil> |
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| 13:02.24 | srg | What would cause all DNS lookups to work, EXCEPT for a spf record on a SPECIFIC domain? http://pastebin.com/a0UWq8RF As you can see, DNS is working for TXT, for A, but gives an error for SPF. Even if the record doesn't exist, it shouldn't give the error like it does. |
| 13:02.47 | srg | It's causing my SPF-checking setup on my mail-server to reject mail with a temp error "SPF tempfail" |
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| 13:03.52 | petn-randall | srg: What DNS server are you running? |
| 13:03.59 | srg | unbound |
| 13:04.16 | srg | the spf lookup works on other domains, it just delays on that specific one |
| 13:04.23 | petn-randall | srg: If you query a different DNS server, does the SPF lookup work fine? |
| 13:04.25 | srg | there's like a 5 second delay before I get the error |
| 13:04.27 | srg | yeah |
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| 13:05.20 | petn-randall | srg: Maybe you got IPv6 on that server, but unconfigured? And the upstream DNS is reachable via IPv6? |
| 13:05.32 | petn-randall | srg: I'd strace the process to check where it stalls. |
| 13:05.50 | srg | hm, I use ipv6 to connect to IRC (I run weechat on the same box) |
| 13:05.56 | srg | i'll strace it |
| 13:06.13 | petn-randall | srg: Could always be that they screwed up on the IPv6 side... |
| 13:06.27 | srg | hmm |
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| 13:09.51 | srg | petn-randall: So it could be their end? |
| 13:10.03 | srg | If so, I'll just keep rejecting their mail all day, heh |
| 13:10.06 | srg | wont bother me |
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| 13:10.17 | srg | I just wanted to make sure it wasn't my own end |
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| 13:19.17 | crlndrssn | hmm.. google chrome bugs out when i tile it in gnome 3.14 (jessie) |
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| 13:19.59 | Marqin | Hi. Where I can find options to ./configure used by packagers? |
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| 13:21.20 | jelly | Marqin: in debian source packages, around the debian/rules file. They may not be explicitly stated there but imported or included from elsewhere. |
| 13:22.35 | jelly | dpkg, tell Marqin about source |
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| 13:22.41 | jelly | dpkg, tell Marqin about debian/rules |
| 13:22.42 | Marqin | jelly: i found them here - https://buildd.debian.org/status/logs.php |
| 13:22.59 | Marqin | but thanks for help |
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| 13:37.57 | Riyan_P18 | hi. |
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| 13:40.15 | crised_ | I'm developing a program in java with opencv, with libopencv2.4-java and other plugins, however I cannot open camera stream, I suspect some package like ffmpeg or gstreamer is missing |
| 13:40.33 | crised_ | How can I see the logs of what is hapenning? Where is failing? Java gives me no output at all |
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| 13:49.31 | srg | Why isn't gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg in Jessie? |
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| 13:56.53 | likecolacola | this is not entirely on-topic but since no one is communicating through the channel right now.. i added a special repository that is supposed to install odoo (a program that depends on postgresql) automatically... i did apt-get remove odoo and want to do a fresh github install of odoo by myself but there's this files left in the system when doing find.. http://pastebin.com/CDaeY24L , being new to linux i find hard to get things g |
| 13:56.54 | likecolacola | oing.. should i remove the *odoo* files there's left before proceeding ? |
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| 13:58.13 | srg | when you "apt-get remove package" it leaves the config files behind |
| 13:58.17 | srg | in case you want to reinstall it later |
| 13:58.27 | srg | To remove the config files, you have to "apt-get remove --purge package" |
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| 14:00.44 | srg | likecolacola: I'd reinstall odoo, then --purge it to get rid of everything and re-run your `find` |
| 14:01.17 | likecolacola | srg, thanks a lot for your help |
| 14:01.36 | likecolacola | that's what i will do |
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| 14:04.56 | crised_ | this is a strace output of my program any ideas what could be wrong or missing? My java code does work in a different linux machine |
| 14:04.58 | crised_ | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/crised/7781e9ea79e9223dd421/raw/74d788dc896cb0310aee8bb289179e1fb3cfded5/strace%20opencv |
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| 14:08.05 | jrtappers | Is there anything that should be done about UDP traffic and iptables that is different to default? |
| 14:08.40 | jrtappers | I just saw a UDP scan for a list of random ports with a forged source, and wondered if there is a common config mistake it is trying to exploit |
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| 14:11.07 | jrtappers | And also, are there better rules for psad, as it treats a backdoor attempt the same as a ping by default, but DL 2 |
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| 14:35.35 | crised_ | Where can I see logs that some /usr/share libraries may spit? |
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| 14:38.01 | SynrGy | unanswerably vague. want to elaborate? |
| 14:38.07 | jelly | crised_: libraries don't spit logs. Executables using those libraries might. |
| 14:38.21 | jelly | !ask |
| 14:38.21 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:39.08 | SynrGy | and "libraries" in /usr/share? wtf? :) |
| 14:39.12 | crised_ | I have a problem with libopencv, running jessie, when trying to capture a video stream, java program can't open the video... that's it no further infomration |
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| 14:40.01 | crised_ | SynrGy: for example this library https://gist.githubusercontent.com/crised/7781e9ea79e9223dd421/raw/74d788dc896cb0310aee8bb289179e1fb3cfded5/strace%20opencv |
| 14:40.07 | crised_ | oh sorry |
| 14:40.39 | crised_ | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libopencv-core.so.2.4 |
| 14:40.49 | crised_ | SynrGy: for example that library |
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| 14:40.57 | crised_ | How can I see output of something like that |
| 14:41.30 | SynrGy | if it does, in fact, output anything, probably just to stderr |
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| 14:41.45 | SynrGy | so it's up to the application (or wrapper launching the application) to decide where to put stderr |
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| 14:42.07 | crised_ | SynrGy: executing from cli... ther eis no stderr |
| 14:42.11 | crised_ | output |
| 14:43.46 | SynrGy | beats me, then. read the source |
| 14:44.56 | jelly | said java program should have a way to show debug output |
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| 14:46.35 | darxmurf | week-end time ! |
| 14:46.38 | darxmurf | see you folks ! |
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| 14:48.30 | jrtappers | Is there a way to get psad to not warn me about single pings? |
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| 14:48.50 | jrtappers | It hides a backdoor attempt because a ping was more recent... |
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| 14:58.32 | azmodeus | hi channel |
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| 14:58.57 | azmodeus | can I ask for a little support? |
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| 14:59.02 | jelly | !ask |
| 14:59.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 15:01.17 | azmodeus | I am having a problem with virtualbox... I can't launch it because of this output "VirtualBox: supR3HardenedMainGetTrustedMain: dlopen("/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so",) failed: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS32" it should be a wrong location of the library but I really don't understand what exactly shoul I do |
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| 15:03.29 | jelly | azmodeus: what do "file /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so" and "dpkg -S $(readlink -f /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so)" say? |
| 15:04.46 | azmodeus | jelly: the firts output is "/usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0x28f72600f4f1c6bad6ba2ecd8f77fc392237de47, stripped |
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| 15:04.46 | azmodeus | " |
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| 15:05.38 | azmodeus | the second is "virtualbox-4.3: /usr/lib/virtualbox/VirtualBox.so |
| 15:05.38 | azmodeus | " |
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| 15:06.25 | azmodeus | I read somewhere that is a problem with the location of the library... about the architecture... is in the wrong location |
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| 15:07.39 | fs-barend | hello |
| 15:07.55 | fs-barend | ⦠|
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| 15:10.39 | jelly | azmodeus: if you have a 64bit built of virtualbox, you should make sure it uses a 64bit libGL.so.1 library |
| 15:10.42 | zh1 | if i run a apt-get -t wheezy-backports update will i need too apt-get update ? |
| 15:11.15 | jelly | azmodeus: which debian release is this? |
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| 15:13.02 | jelly | zh1: "apt-get update" gets info from all the configured repos, there's no reason to call it with -t ... |
| 15:13.43 | zh1 | jelly so when will i need backports? |
| 15:14.38 | jelly | zh1: sorry, can you rephrase that? |
| 15:14.42 | azmodeus | jelly I can figure out the kernel version |
| 15:14.45 | azmodeus | 3.18.0-kali3-amd64 |
| 15:15.06 | SynrGy | sigh. |
| 15:15.19 | SynrGy | !kali |
| 15:15.19 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 15:16.33 | azmodeus | uh, I'm really sorry... I saw that in kali-linux I can't get an answer... |
| 15:16.40 | SynrGy | azmodeus: first, kali isn't supported here (see above) and second, the packagename 'virtualbox-4.3' is from upstream (virtualbox.org) though who knows, maybe kali uses that? |
| 15:16.50 | SynrGy | azmodeus: saw *what* in kali-linux? |
| 15:17.03 | SynrGy | azmodeus: they had better not be punting their questions here |
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| 15:17.28 | jelly | azmodeus: we're not really willing to fix breakages in a derived distro, especially if they do not happen in Debian. |
| 15:17.49 | jelly | azmodeus: it would be great if you could reproduce the same issue on an actual debian installation |
| 15:18.06 | SynrGy | azmodeus: if #kali-linux referred you here, please correct their misunderstanding as to the purpose of this channel. |
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| 15:19.10 | azmodeus | SynrGy no no, sorry, nobody referred me here... (my english is not that good...) I mean that there nobody answered me... in the meanwhile I asked here thinking bad that I could have got some help =) |
| 15:19.13 | IRWolfie- | are questions about non-free packages on topic? |
| 15:19.27 | SynrGy | IRWolfie-: so long as they are in the debian archive, yes |
| 15:19.28 | Ronald_Reagan | So Iâm trying to add a couple plugins to munin. Is there an error log somwhere I can look at. Is this a good place to ask this question? |
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| 15:20.04 | jelly | IRWolfie-: non-free packages from other sources that are designed to run on debian might be ok as well. |
| 15:20.13 | IRWolfie- | Aha, my question was if anyone has gone beyond catalyst 12.6 |
| 15:20.19 | jelly | Debian is, after all, a "universal operating system" |
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| 15:20.53 | SynrGy | azmodeus: so if you want to go from a distro that's supported by an irc channel where people are hardly ever around to one where we handle questions around the clock, consider using Debian instead. |
| 15:21.21 | jelly | IRWolfie-: hm, let's see what is packaged |
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| 15:21.38 | jelly | ,v fglrx-driver |
| 15:21.39 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2; sid/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2; experimental/non-free: 1:14.12-1 |
| 15:21.56 | NoImNotNineVolt | fglrx is the worst. |
| 15:22.02 | SynrGy | so if "anyone" is users of backports, then yes |
| 15:22.03 | jelly | IRWolfie-: there's that 14.9+ga14.201 in wheezy-backports |
| 15:22.18 | IRWolfie- | cool I'll have a look |
| 15:23.27 | azmodeus | SynrGy, it should be a good idea! I just found a book that seemed helpful, talking about kali... but really I didn't decided yet what distro I really want to use... Debian, could be a good idea... |
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| 15:25.26 | Matt_91 | debian-live-7.8.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso http://sitesolution.tk/debian.jpg |
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| 15:26.42 | jelly | Matt_91: does it just hang there? |
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| 15:27.28 | Matt_91 | jelly, what? sorry i'm not undestand what i must hang |
| 15:27.44 | Matt_91 | jelly, i not speach english very good |
| 15:27.51 | Botchla | I think he means the installer. |
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| 15:27.56 | Botchla | Like, does it stopt here? On that screen. |
| 15:28.00 | Botchla | Does it go further? |
| 15:28.03 | Botchla | *stop |
| 15:28.09 | jelly | Botchla: it's the live image, not the installer |
| 15:28.11 | nick12345 | is it possible to use i3wm with a desktop environment? I mean have all the panels,widgets and stuff but use it as the wm |
| 15:28.24 | Botchla | jelly, I see. You can install from it though, right? |
| 15:28.29 | Botchla | After the iso OS is booted. |
| 15:28.32 | Matt_91 | the installation terminate here |
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| 15:28.46 | Matt_91 | if i use live it works perfect |
| 15:28.46 | jelly | Botchla: I... don't really know! |
| 15:28.51 | Botchla | OK. |
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| 15:28.56 | nick12345 | basically what i want is to use xfce with i3 instead of xfwm |
| 15:29.02 | azmodeus | well, got to go... sorry for the intrusion! =) but maybe I'll be back with my own Debian installation Yeah! See you... byebye and thanks |
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| 15:30.58 | Matt_91 | can you help me? |
| 15:31.07 | Matt_91 | else i install lubuntu... |
| 15:31.14 | zh1 | lol |
| 15:31.26 | jelly | Matt_91: if you want to install, it's probably best to use the actual installer image instead of the live image. |
| 15:31.49 | Matt_91 | zh1, :D i try to install this image in 3 different pc. in all this error, end the checksum is ok |
| 15:32.06 | jelly | Matt_91: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/ |
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| 15:32.36 | zh1 | Matt_91, u can use debian with lxde too and use debian dvd in menu advanced there is that option |
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| 15:33.26 | jelly | bot says: Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > LXDE > Install" |
| 15:34.44 | Matt_91 | jelly, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso is correct? |
| 15:34.58 | zh1 | Matt_91, or http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-7.8.0-i386-DVD-1.iso |
| 15:35.42 | Matt_91 | zh1, there is no desktop in this image? |
| 15:35.52 | jelly | Matt_91: you have a laptop. I recommend using the firmware images. |
| 15:36.17 | zh1 | Matt_91, normally i get the dvd with all desktops but u can use just lxde iso too |
| 15:36.21 | Matt_91 | jelly, i cant use netinstall, i live in italy, my internet connection is very very very very bad |
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| 15:37.54 | jelly | oh well. Then you'll have to use the wired connection to install firmware afterwards |
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| 15:38.24 | zh1 | Matt_91, i would suggest getting a full dvd and then firmwares on the end like jelly said |
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| 15:38.47 | jelly | that sounds reasonable |
| 15:39.01 | Matt_91 | ok, thanks zh1 i try it |
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| 15:39.32 | Matt_91 | zh1, now i download http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/i386/iso-dvd/debian-7.8.0-i386-DVD-1.iso there is torrent of this image |
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| 15:39.46 | zh1 | Matt_91, but if u use just lxde iso will be less mb to download |
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| 15:40.19 | Matt_91 | zh1, what image? |
| 15:40.39 | jelly | Matt_91: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-i386-lxde-CD-1.iso |
| 15:40.54 | Matt_91 | jelly, ok |
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| 15:41.06 | agd | "Debian good, Ubuntu better, but Arch best!" - Linus Torvalds (2015) |
| 15:41.12 | agd | would you agree with his statement, jelly? |
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| 15:41.18 | SynrGy | OT |
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| 15:42.02 | Matt_91 | lxde is the lightest desktop in your opinion?(i dont lice xfce) |
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| 15:42.07 | zh1 | agd i prefer debian to arch |
| 15:42.57 | zh1 | Matt_91, it is but better try some, in my case i prefer xfce |
| 15:43.16 | Matt_91 | zh1, i dont like xfce :D |
| 15:43.37 | zh1 | Matt_91, all depends on tweaking DE |
| 15:44.00 | zh1 | Matt_91, i have one machine xfce and other on lxde |
| 15:44.04 | Matt_91 | zh1, i need a stable PC |
| 15:44.15 | zh1 | both are stable |
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| 15:44.41 | crippledmonk | I was using crunchbang but now jessie and i3. |
| 15:44.47 | Matt_91 | ok zh1 i install lxde :P |
| 15:44.48 | zh1 | if u want a stable pc debian is more stable than lubuntu |
| 15:45.07 | Matt_91 | zh1, i know.... but if is impossible install it XD |
| 15:45.24 | zh1 | nothing is impossible to install |
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| 15:45.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | What is a proper deb-src line for experimental? |
| 15:45.57 | Matt_91 | zh1, i buy today a new ssd to install debian... and it not works!!! grrrr :D |
| 15:46.10 | crippledmonk | i personally find debian easier and quicker to install over arch imho. |
| 15:46.11 | Eduard_Munteanu | I'm looking to rebuild an experimental package for jessie. |
| 15:46.26 | zh1 | Matt_91, u wont install debian if u are too new too it and not read manual |
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| 15:47.20 | jelly | Eduard_Munteanu: same as jessie, only s/jessie/experimental/ |
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| 15:48.08 | awertull | how do you get access to the shadow file under guest in linux? |
| 15:48.09 | Matt_91 | WoW lubuntu boot in 4seconds with the ssd :D |
| 15:48.33 | sslb | I installed debian in a VM and I really enjoy it compared to arch because of its stability. Quick question, has apt-get got colored output yet? |
| 15:49.19 | jelly | awertull: what do you mean, "under guest" |
| 15:49.20 | SynrGy | sslb: jessie has the new apt 2.0 frontend which is colorized |
| 15:49.20 | Botchla | You may need to use something like zsh for that. |
| 15:49.26 | Botchla | sslb ^ |
| 15:49.37 | Botchla | I wonder if zsh would also colorize it. |
| 15:49.41 | Botchla | As opposed to a standard bash shell. |
| 15:49.43 | awertull | i'm logged in as guest because i mistyped my admin password |
| 15:49.49 | awertull | during install |
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| 15:50.07 | Matt_91 | thanks to all, bya zh1 & jelly :D thanks |
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| 15:50.12 | sslb | SynrGy: I have installed the latest debian. How do I find out what version I'm running? |
| 15:50.12 | SynrGy | you don't need zsh to enjoy apt's colorization |
| 15:50.15 | Eduard_Munteanu | jelly, hm, for some reason apt-get source PKG -t experimental doesn't work, it complains about APT::Default-Release |
| 15:50.29 | SynrGy | sslb: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:50.34 | Eduard_Munteanu | E: The value 'experimental' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources |
| 15:50.38 | zh1 | Matt_91, start on lubuntu for a while |
| 15:50.51 | sslb | SynrGy: 7.8 |
| 15:50.57 | SynrGy | sslb: the latest stable release is wheezy (7.8). the next release, jessie (8.0) is due to come out April 25. |
| 15:51.18 | sslb | ok - would that require a dist-upgrade? |
| 15:51.20 | Botchla | Oh, wow. |
| 15:51.24 | SynrGy | sslb: if the VM is just to play with, you can upgrade |
| 15:51.26 | Botchla | So there's a date for 8.0? |
| 15:51.28 | Botchla | Nice. |
| 15:51.30 | SynrGy | sslb: yes. |
| 15:51.35 | SynrGy | dpkg: wheezy->jessie |
| 15:51.35 | dpkg | Remember that testing is a pre-release distribution without timely security support to be cautious; ask me about <jessie security>. (1) READ THE RELEASE NOTES: http://deb.li/ldcj (2) From /etc/apt/sources.list, remove stable-specific lines like wheezy-updates and backports, and change wheezy to jessie. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. |
| 15:51.37 | sslb | SynrGy: yea, that's all it is. |
| 15:51.55 | sslb | SynrGy: Is jessie the next stable release? |
| 15:51.56 | jelly | awertull: what does "uname -a; id -a" say? |
| 15:52.00 | SynrGy | sslb: correct. |
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| 15:52.03 | Matt_91 | zh1, i use ubuntu & lubuntu since 2008 :) and i manage some vps that ave installed ubuntu or debian :) |
| 15:52.06 | sslb | SynrGy: cool, thanks. |
| 15:52.12 | SynrGy | np. enjoy |
| 15:52.19 | Botchla | Lubuntu is good, though I wouldn't praise other distros here too frequently. |
| 15:52.22 | sslb | SynrGy: I really have grown to love pacman - have to get used to apt |
| 15:52.31 | SynrGy | nods |
| 15:52.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | jelly, nevermind, it seems I needed a normal non-sources line as well |
| 15:52.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | Thanks. |
| 15:52.47 | sslb | SynrGy: it's all I've been using for the last 4 years |
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| 15:53.23 | jelly | Eduard_Munteanu: hm, that's weird, you shouldn't need a "deb " line to get sources |
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| 15:53.51 | SynrGy | sslb: i've been using apt since it first released. feels pretty natural to me now :) |
| 15:55.09 | zh1 | Matt_91, debian has a nice documentation install i'm sure if u read it u will install debian easy |
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| 15:55.17 | vinci | hi all |
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| 15:56.33 | Matt_91 | zh1, thanks! i try it ;) |
| 15:56.35 | Matt_91 | bye |
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| 16:08.15 | tapout | i want to track files over NFS, added/deleted/modified. Inotify doesn't work, any suggestions? |
| 16:09.26 | Botchla | jelly, anyway, you were saying a test upgrade on a VM is a viable way to test it out? |
| 16:10.01 | jelly | Botchla: I honestly do not remember but it sounds like something I might have said |
| 16:10.31 | Botchla | Oh, my apologies. |
| 16:10.31 | Botchla | It seems SynrGy said that, sorry. |
| 16:10.42 | Botchla | I was curious about the process; I also run 7.8, and I wish to upgrade to Jessie when it comes out. |
| 16:10.48 | Botchla | I want to simulate it on a VM first. |
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| 16:11.00 | jelly | nodnod |
| 16:11.20 | GPenguin | Botchla: make sure you read the release notes when you upgrade :P |
| 16:11.44 | Botchla | That is a good idea. |
| 16:12.04 | Botchla | I'm not particularly worried because this a VM so if all hell breaks lose, that's fine. |
| 16:12.13 | Botchla | loose* |
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| 16:12.46 | ysionneau | hi! is openssl 1.0.1e-2 (debian wheezy) up to date with latest security patches like openssl 1.0.1m upstream? |
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| 16:13.13 | jelly | ysionneau: yes. |
| 16:13.14 | SynrGy | ysionneau: yes |
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| 16:13.23 | jelly | high fives SynrGy |
| 16:13.31 | Brigo | ysionneau, you can check it for youself https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/ |
| 16:14.04 | ysionneau | thanks! |
| 16:14.26 | SynrGy | jelly: :) |
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| 16:28.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | It seems like apt-{get,cache} ignore /etc/apt/preferences, what do I need to do? apt-get update didn't do anything. |
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| 16:29.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | Actually wait, it's not ignored because bogus lines trigger an error, but my pin has no effect: |
| 16:30.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | Package: *\nPin: release n=jessie\nPin-Priority: 1100\n |
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| 16:31.06 | _abc_ | Hello. On wheezy, what does one have to install (non-free) to make youtube work nicely in the browser? PC is substandard, very slow for html5 video. |
| 16:31.27 | _abc_ | It is known to work okay with older releases and normal flash players on windows and linux. |
| 16:31.31 | _abc_ | (the pc) |
| 16:31.43 | Canar | add non-free repo in sources.list, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 16:31.54 | _abc_ | That it? Thanks. |
| 16:32.04 | Canar | might need to add contrib too |
| 16:32.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | And apt-get update before installing. |
| 16:32.17 | Canar | si |
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| 16:32.46 | _abc_ | ok |
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| 16:37.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | Looks like APT::Default-Release was getting in the way |
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| 16:58.04 | _abc_ | Wow 1660 users? |
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| 16:59.41 | _abc_ | Okay, ubuntu has 1800... |
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| 17:00.32 | _abc_ | And #slackware ~280. I run slack and Debian >;) |
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| 17:26.03 | gribouille | hi |
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| 17:26.19 | gribouille | how can I know if a hard drive is hot-plug? |
| 17:26.57 | _abc_ | gribouille: most external hdd enclosures with usb are hot plug |
| 17:27.08 | nick12345 | does anybody here use rhino 3d? |
| 17:27.17 | _abc_ | on Debian?! |
| 17:27.27 | nick12345 | i want to install it on debian |
| 17:27.31 | gribouille | _abc_, I mean an internal hd |
| 17:27.32 | nick12345 | with wine |
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| 17:27.46 | _abc_ | gribouille: Internals are never hot plug |
| 17:28.08 | _abc_ | nick12345: Ask on #wine really? And see if it is in wine's compat list? |
| 17:28.17 | gribouille | _abc_, even on srevers? |
| 17:28.22 | gribouille | _abc_, even on servers? |
| 17:28.27 | nick12345 | thanks. ill go ask there |
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| 17:28.52 | _abc_ | Server hdd's are not 'internal' really, and they have hotplug controllers which mitigate the fact that the servers are not hot pluggable |
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| 17:29.28 | gribouille | _abc_, what do you mean by hot-plug? |
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| 17:29.57 | _abc_ | The least you can expect from hotplugging an internal hdd is to crash or freeze the system when the psu high current start pulse occurs. Hot plug is a technical term for electronics which are specifically designed to cope with insertion and removal while operating. |
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| 17:30.50 | gribouille | _abc_, why do you say that "servers are not hot pluggable"? |
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| 17:35.41 | gribouille | my question is : I have Dell T620 server where I can hot plug 2,5" hard drives. I want to buy a new hard drive. how can I know if the new hard drives supports hot plugging? |
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| 17:40.20 | crised_ | How can I install all the packages of a given family? |
| 17:40.33 | crised_ | For example, install all this https://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/ |
| 17:42.36 | lroe | I'm trying to configure ssh keys on a debian wheezy server so I can log in from root on one machine to root on this machine without a password. Normally I would use the ssh-copy-id command, but root logins are disabled on the debian machine except when using keys. I manually copied the id_rsa.pub to the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file but when I try to login I am still prompted for a password |
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| 17:45.10 | karlpinc | lroe: What does ssh -v or the logs say about what's happening? |
| 17:45.23 | karlpinc | crised_: Do you have a list of the packages you want? |
| 17:45.27 | lroe | one sec, I found a bug |
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| 17:45.55 | crised_ | karlpinc: for example these https://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/ |
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| 17:46.36 | lroe | yup, fixed it. Thanks. I was told the sshd was configured to allow cert-based log ins for root but it wasn't |
| 17:46.40 | karlpinc | crised_: Well, if you have a list, you list them on the command line after "aptitude install ..." or "apt-get install ...". |
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| 17:47.04 | crised_ | karlpinc: ok |
| 17:47.44 | crised_ | Which specific debian libraries does opencv needs for VideoCapture by network?? I am able to videocapture with the included webcam, but I can't do it over the net to an IP camera |
| 17:48.16 | karlpinc | crised_: aptitude's interactive mode probably has a way to flag everything in it's "sections" all at once so they all install. But I never use that so don't know how to proceed. |
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| 17:48.58 | karlpinc | crised_: Is opencv a debian package? It should install everything it needs if so. See also it's README.debian |
| 17:48.59 | NoImNotNineVolt | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libopencv-dev |
| 17:49.05 | karlpinc | !readme.debian |
| 17:49.05 | dpkg | README.Debian (or README.Debian.gz) is a document found in the /usr/share/doc/$packagename/ which explains any Debian specific details in the package's operation or configuration. |
| 17:49.08 | crised_ | karlpinc: yes |
| 17:49.20 | crised_ | this is close to my answer: http://stackoverflow.com/a/16451977/1341526 |
| 17:49.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | crised_: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libopencv-core2.4 also |
| 17:49.44 | karlpinc | NoImNotNineVolt: Why the -dev? I'm curious. |
| 17:49.47 | crised_ | NoImNotNineVolt: that's installed |
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| 17:52.14 | Botchla | Woah. |
| 17:52.17 | Botchla | OK, hold up. |
| 17:52.19 | Botchla | "The Debian upgrade from wheezy to jessie will by default migrate your init system from the SysV to systemd. Depending on your system and setup, you may need to do some manual changes. We have detailed known issues in Section 5.6, âUpgrading installs the new default init system for Jessieâ. " |
| 17:52.24 | Botchla | I just read that in the release notes. |
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| 17:55.10 | Botchla | Yay. |
| 17:55.15 | Botchla | Debian 8 running on VM. :-) |
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| 18:03.32 | Botchla | By the way, if I have a desktop environment such as Xfce 4.8, how exactly would the upgrade process be have to be modified? |
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| 18:04.57 | crised_ | How to install ffmpeg on jessie? |
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| 18:05.51 | Brigo | Botchla, as long as the upgrade will install the new package of that you have already installed, i think you have to do nothing. |
| 18:06.06 | Botchla | I see. |
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| 18:06.20 | Botchla | I was under the impression Jessie has Xfce 4.10 or something. |
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| 18:06.37 | Brigo | ,v xfce |
| 18:06.38 | judd | No package named 'xfce' was found in i386. |
| 18:06.44 | Botchla | Try 4 at the end. |
| 18:06.47 | Botchla | ,v xfce4 |
| 18:06.48 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1; experimental: 4.12 |
| 18:06.50 | Botchla | ^ |
| 18:06.54 | Botchla | I knew it. |
| 18:07.27 | Brigo | Botchla, then xfce4 will be upgraded to 4.10 |
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| 18:07.35 | Botchla | Interesting. |
| 18:07.56 | _abc_ | Can someone please explain what happened to wine in Debian? Etch has sources.list pointing at http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ which is not okay anymore. |
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| 18:08.11 | _abc_ | Where does this point now? Say, in wheezy? |
| 18:09.27 | _abc_ | https://www.winehq.org/download/debian wine for sid sounds really fresh. Elderberry flavored and all. |
| 18:09.28 | Brigo | _abc_, wine is already in debian, you don't need to install wine from sourceforge. |
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| 18:09.38 | _abc_ | Ah. Completely inside? Okay. |
| 18:09.56 | Brigo | apt-get install wine, just it. |
| 18:10.04 | Botchla | _abc_: Out of curiosity, what do you need Wine for? |
| 18:10.13 | _abc_ | Nanana. This system is so old even sneezing next to it is unsafe. |
| 18:10.31 | _abc_ | Botchla: Running things which were not ported to linux. Like ltspice, wincupl and a few more |
| 18:11.00 | Botchla | _abc_: I attempted to use Wine on an amd64 Wheezy install, and it failed dramatically for my purposes, Wine is very finicky and buggy imho |
| 18:11.12 | Botchla | _abc_: I have since had to resort to a virtual machine emulation of Windows. |
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| 18:11.41 | _abc_ | amd64 is not a good idea for generic windows exe files |
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| 18:12.01 | _abc_ | wine works okay for most things I quoted. Except it crashed from trying to use installshield |
| 18:12.17 | Botchla | ...well, if your kernel version doesn't support i386 anymore, what are you doing to do about that. |
| 18:12.24 | Botchla | You're stuck with x86_64. |
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| 18:19.38 | karlpinc | ,v kernel |
| 18:19.39 | judd | No package named 'kernel' was found in i386. |
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| 18:21.24 | _abc_ | It's a miracle, running with no kernel! |
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| 18:23.35 | Botchla | ,v linux-* |
| 18:23.36 | judd | No package named 'linux-*' was found in i386. |
| 18:24.30 | _abc_ | ,v BSD |
| 18:24.31 | judd | No package named 'BSD' was found in i386. |
| 18:24.35 | _abc_ | O.o |
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| 18:25.21 | _abc_ | Botchla: VMs always work but there's the bummer to install all the f* os one avoids in the 1st place. |
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| 18:25.36 | _abc_ | wine has made progress and they keep trying. It even avoids sxs nightmares. |
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| 18:26.30 | _abc_ | That being said, as soon as I finish some important things I will update this machine. KDE3 works fine but there are too many new things which require duct tape and crutches to operate. |
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| 18:27.12 | ojaito | hi everyone: how do I find out which graphics driver a given debian system is using? (e.g., ATI proprietary vs. free) |
| 18:27.30 | _abc_ | In other news, I discovered ff 17 ESR on Debian does NOT honor https:// search engines in $profile/search.json, leading back to normal http: |
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| 18:27.57 | _abc_ | ojaito: one way is ps -auxw|grep X |
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| 18:28.08 | Botchla | Hm, this is interesting. |
| 18:28.20 | Botchla | When I send the shutdown signal, the OS doesn't give the checklist anymore before powering down on the VM. |
| 18:28.38 | _abc_ | Which os? Windows? |
| 18:28.48 | _abc_ | There are settings in the registry to mess that up. |
| 18:28.56 | _abc_ | Look it up. Shutdown confirmation mumble mumble. |
| 18:29.17 | _abc_ | Installed something recently? |
| 18:29.37 | ojaito | _abc_: tried that ps command; got this : /usr/bin/X :0 vt7 -br -nolisten tcp -auth /var/run/xauth/A:0-ZfAMrc |
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| 18:31.16 | ojaito | I guess the fact that "lsmod | grep fglrx" gave no results means that I'm not running the proprietary driver... |
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| 18:31.52 | _abc_ | ojaito: Could be. Now you should dig deeper in /etc/xfree.org/something config |
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| 18:32.13 | _abc_ | ojaito: crashy? |
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| 18:33.10 | ojaito | _abc_: yeah, I get the blinking underscore of death every once in a while after someone logs out... and I can't just restart gdm. So, I'm guessing it might be a graphics driver issue... |
| 18:33.20 | zh1 | if i run a ./install how can i say it to not remove any packages on debian? |
| 18:34.11 | ojaito | _abc_: hmmm... no /etc/xfree... dirs... |
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| 18:34.59 | _abc_ | I don're remember where the buggers are. Channel? |
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| 18:35.49 | ojaito | "Channel?"? |
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| 18:36.43 | _abc_ | Well, ANYONE? ;) |
| 18:36.51 | _abc_ | ojaito: locate xorg.conf maybe? |
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| 18:38.20 | ojaito | I found out from lspci -k that the kernel driver is called "radeon" |
| 18:39.24 | _abc_ | That's radeonvfb perhaps? |
| 18:40.00 | ojaito | _abc_: whereas on a system running the proprietary driver, it's handled by "fglrx_pci" |
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| 18:40.48 | ojaito | _abc_: yeah maybe, not sure... /etc/X11/ has a bunch of different xorg.conf files -- not sure which one the system is using, if any |
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| 18:42.33 | _abc_ | you can find it by looking in /etc/inittab ... that will have a startx line which points at the right script in theory |
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| 18:48.31 | _abc_ | Current debian is not yet systemd controlled, right? |
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| 18:49.48 | _abc_ | wheezy? |
| 18:50.02 | _abc_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:51.25 | _abc_ | Is there an absolutely minimalist text mode only debian install set/howto/repo? |
| 18:51.42 | _abc_ | Every time I look for such things I find huge huge installs with personal flavor |
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| 18:51.54 | Mousey | wait, there's another way to install debian? |
| 18:53.18 | _abc_ | Floppy disks! Did you not know? |
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| 18:53.51 | jelly | _abc_: read /msg dpkg base install |
| 18:53.56 | _abc_ | ok |
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| 18:57.44 | _abc_ | Is a reasonably setup busybox part of the default debian install disk set? To install that in case nothing is installed, as "minimal system"? |
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| 19:06.08 | xTessa | My sister sent these creamy pictures of us to share <3 http://bit.do/cam_screenies |
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| 19:06.41 | bn` | hello. Can the apt/dependency problem "gcc-4.9-base:amd64 (4.9.2-10) breaks gcc-4.7-base (<< 4.7.3) and is installed" be solved? |
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| 19:09.09 | bn` | I think I have done something terrible wrong (adding unstable to sources.list and installing something from it), but is there a way (or better fix) to get back? |
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| 19:09.45 | bn` | atm it wants to remove gcc-4.9-base and install gcc-4.7-base, but always stops when configuring gcc-4.7-base |
| 19:10.24 | bn` | Can't I tell dpkg to just forget about gcc-4.9? |
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| 19:15.33 | jhambo | Hi folks my root filesytem is too small resulting in lots of problems when I try to install updates. Particularly I get some large files that get stored in \opt. is there a way I can move \opt onto a different partition? Or could I just create a link somehow? |
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| 19:16.07 | bn` | Maybe I just need to change the order in which the packages are installed or removed. Is there a way to tell apt-get to remove packages before installing the other ones? Installing before removing is the default behaviour. |
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| 19:22.28 | bn` | awesome! I did some very bad cowboy trick - I've edited the /var/lib/dpkg/status file and removed the gcc-4.7-base version from the "Breaks:" field of gcc-4.9-base, jihaaa :P |
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| 19:22.40 | jhambo | Figured it out. Just made a symlink |
| 19:22.56 | noname2 | nick noname001 |
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| 19:23.44 | bn` | I can't believe I fixed that, lol I'm on expert level now. |
| 19:23.47 | bn` | thx |
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| 19:36.34 | crised_ | I'm pretty frustrated... there is some codec missing in my debian installation but I cannot find which one is it. Using opencv in debian jessie, but the java program that runs this opencv, doesn't tell me what's wrong |
| 19:36.45 | crised_ | I'm trying to fetch an mjpeg stream from ip camera |
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| 19:37.33 | bn` | crised_: check dmesg output |
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| 19:38.08 | crised_ | bn`: no nothing useful |
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| 19:43.17 | wasaby | hi to all |
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| 19:44.05 | wasaby | I have a problem with bitcoin client. they say it's the fault of openssl. I know nothing about you? |
| 19:44.15 | NoImNotNineVolt | yes. |
| 19:44.44 | wasaby | how do I fix? am new to the world debian |
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| 20:00.22 | yam1 | im looking at /proc/XXX/cmdline, but there are not spaces in that file |
| 20:00.27 | yam1 | i used cat to look at it |
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| 20:00.39 | yam1 | how can i view it with spaces? |
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| 20:12.27 | TyrfingMjolnir | What is the smallest debian install one can make? |
| 20:13.08 | TyrfingMjolnir | I like to start small |
| 20:13.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | But I also like apt-get |
| 20:13.23 | TyrfingMjolnir | http://www.tinycorelinux.net/install.html does not seem to have apt-get |
| 20:14.13 | mtn_ | TyrfingMjolnir: thought you wanted debian? |
| 20:14.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | I would like the smallest debian possible |
| 20:14.48 | mtn_ | TyrfingMjolnir: netinstall and all other options are listed on the debian website |
| 20:14.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | netinstall is quite big, no? |
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| 20:15.20 | mtn_ | TyrfingMjolnir: define "big", otherwise you are just being vague |
| 20:15.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | even debootstrap usually makes a 780MB spending on the drive |
| 20:15.47 | CissWit | the smallest possible is to debootstrap from a running debian installing only what you need. But you won't get much less than with a minimal netinst install |
| 20:16.01 | TyrfingMjolnir | oki |
| 20:16.05 | TyrfingMjolnir | Thanks |
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| 20:38.40 | gogol | Hey folks |
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| 20:39.48 | gogol | How is possible on debian/apache change an URL Name? ? |
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| 20:40.08 | dyanrilliams | Is anyone around that could help me with installing flash on Debian No Root using the text editor VIM? |
| 20:40.09 | greycat | Do you mean a redirect to a different page? |
| 20:40.18 | gogol | Nope |
| 20:40.48 | NoImNotNineVolt | what is a URL Name? |
| 20:40.57 | NoImNotNineVolt | i didn't know URLs had names. |
| 20:41.04 | gogol | Literally show another URL instead something like page86445678888.php |
| 20:41.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | show where? |
| 20:41.33 | gogol | In the URL |
| 20:41.57 | greycat | The URL is what the user types into the browser, or clicks on. What do you want to change, exactly? |
| 20:42.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | "the URL"? in a text file? in a web browser address bar? in a png? |
| 20:42.20 | gogol | I read something about menage the hoc |
| 20:42.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | in a text file, use a text editor. in a web browser address bar, click the address bar, press delete a few times, and start typing. in a png, use gimp. |
| 20:42.30 | gogol | Address bar Nola |
| 20:42.34 | greycat | What are you trying to do? |
| 20:43.13 | dyanrilliams | test |
| 20:43.19 | gogol | I've a phone generated page |
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| 20:43.28 | Mithrandir__ | where people come from in this chan? hi all |
| 20:43.31 | gogol | I need to show another name |
| 20:44.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | a phone generated page? your phone generates pages? what? |
| 20:44.03 | greycat | You want a shorter URL that loads the longer page content? |
| 20:44.27 | gogol | Sorry |
| 20:44.39 | gogol | Read phone instead phone :P |
| 20:44.59 | NoImNotNineVolt | 's head explodes |
| 20:45.33 | _abc_ | When can we see a Debian phone? Ubuntu is there now...http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Ubuntu-Smartphone-jetzt-erhaeltlich-2598749.html |
| 20:45.39 | gogol | à a à argo |
| 20:45.41 | gogol | Phone |
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| 20:45.45 | gogol | Not phone |
| 20:45.56 | greycat | This is not getting any clearer. |
| 20:45.57 | NoImNotNineVolt | s/phone/phone/. |
| 20:45.58 | gogol | PHP |
| 20:46.25 | gogol | It's PHP |
| 20:46.55 | greycat | OK, so you have a Debian server running Apache+PHP and you have a .php file somewhere that generates a page. What do you want to change about it? |
| 20:47.28 | dyanrilliams | What do i need to make my sources.list say to install flash? does it need to be deb http://http.debian.net/debian/wheezy main contrib non-free? (cause mine says contrib main non-free) |
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| 20:47.49 | greycat | I have never installed flash via apt. I just extract the file provided by adobe. |
| 20:47.52 | mtn_ | dyanrilliams: the order does not matter |
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| 20:48.15 | mtn_ | dyanrilliams: flashplugin should be in your package manager or available via apt |
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| 20:48.52 | gogol | Need to show home.php instead too long to read. Php |
| 20:48.57 | dyanrilliams | i've tried apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but that doesnt work. And i was a little confused trying to extract the tar.gz file |
| 20:49.05 | greycat | ln -s longname.php home.php |
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| 20:49.10 | mtn_ | dyanrilliams: doesn't work in what way? |
| 20:49.16 | _abc_ | Is this ##php? |
| 20:49.16 | greycat | then have the user go to your.domain/home.php |
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| 20:50.32 | dyanrilliams | when i do the apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree gets met E: package 'flashplugin-nonfree' has no installation can |
| 20:50.48 | dyanrilliams | installation candidate* |
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| 20:52.43 | NoImNotNineVolt | greycat: he straight up left just before you said that :| |
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| 20:52.58 | NoImNotNineVolt | and i just dug up the link to mod_rewrite documentation. |
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| 20:59.57 | anon | right after grub (where it should ask passphrase), i often get a black screen, can't do anything, that's before the boot process, any ideas ? |
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| 21:09.32 | mtn_ | dyanrilliams: please keep it here in the channel. maybe someone can help you |
| 21:09.42 | dyanrilliams | ah sorry |
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| 21:11.28 | MikeJ | so.. there is a package in jesse.. mupdf.. that seems super messed up.. I'm happy to work on fixing it, but only if there is a chance of it actually getting fixed. Can anyone take a peek and let me know how it even got in to debian in the state that its in.. it only builds static lib, has a bunch of other libs inside of it that are already in debian, etc⦠|
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| 21:12.34 | dyanrilliams | When i try the apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree it tells me package flashplugin-able, but is referred to by another package. This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source. |
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| 21:15.58 | Arroyo1010 | brb |
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| 21:29.24 | acz32 | does anyone know how to connect to remote folders with thunar |
| 21:29.34 | acz32 | the documentation isn't helping |
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| 21:30.24 | crippledmonk | i have some. |
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| 21:31.04 | crippledmonk | but i had the other box setup for ssh and connected that way. |
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| 21:31.28 | acz32 | the other machine has an ssh server running |
| 21:31.30 | blackflow | Guise, is this the Jessie RC2 USB image iso? http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/testing/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/mini.iso |
| 21:31.33 | Botchla | So anyway, trying out a distro upgrade to Jessie starting from 7.8 and Xfce 4.8. |
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| 21:31.39 | Botchla | Seeing if it goes well. |
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| 21:31.52 | acz32 | when i enter sftp:// or ssh:// in thunar's address bar, it says it's invalid like it doesn't recognize the protocols |
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| 21:33.27 | crippledmonk | acz32: my bad. i just realized when i did that in the past via a gui it was gigolo not thunar I used. sorry |
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| 21:33.56 | acz32 | gigolo doesn't work either, i must be missing some package. but i have gvfs installed |
| 21:34.56 | crippledmonk | I'm not sure then. It just worked for me. I will bow out and let someone smarter lend a hand. |
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| 21:37.16 | dyanrilliams | what is the command to extract something with tar? if the file location is /etc/Flash/filename.tar.gz |
| 21:37.47 | dyanrilliams | would it be tar -xf /ext/Flash/filename.tar.gz |
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| 21:38.20 | Botchla | Try tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz |
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| 21:39.07 | dyanrilliams | just the file name, or should i put /etc/flash/filename.tar.gz |
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| 21:43.18 | dyanrilliams | So i think it worked, lol but I have no idea where i extracted it to. |
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| 21:45.45 | nerdistmonk | should have extracted it to either your home directory or the very same location the file was in |
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| 21:53.54 | blackflow | Guys, question: I have a GPT disk layout with bios_boot, a grub partition and a luks partition upon which sits LVM. How can I force the Debian installer to reuse the luks partition and install itself in the old root LV? I see no option to reuse existing |
| 21:57.11 | dyanrilliams | My task bar dissapeared O-o |
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| 21:58.32 | dyanrilliams | jk, found it |
| 21:59.24 | srg | I don't even task bar, bro |
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| 22:01.01 | queso | I am on Debian Wheezy. I would like to move /tmp to /home/tmp because /home is a much larger partition and I keep running out of space. Is this safe to do? If so, how do I do it? Thanks. |
| 22:01.32 | valdyn | queso: not really safe |
| 22:01.41 | valdyn | queso: but probably good enough |
| 22:01.50 | srg | Why not safe? YOu can't just symlink it? |
| 22:01.54 | srg | just curious for myself |
| 22:02.50 | queso | I'm using gscan2pdf and have the preferences to use a tmp dir in my home directory, but it *still* uses space on /tmp that continues to grow with every scan. |
| 22:03.01 | valdyn | srg: tmp is in base-files, that package can change |
| 22:03.25 | srg | ah |
| 22:03.28 | valdyn | srg: doesnt mean it likely will |
| 22:03.49 | queso | What's the right solution, then? Repartition? |
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| 22:04.56 | valdyn | queso: cp -av /tmp /home/ should be ok, then create a symlink "cd /;ln -s /home/tmp" |
| 22:05.04 | valdyn | queso: yea |
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| 22:07.32 | valdyn | queso: or just use a tool to scan that doesnt assume /tmp has unlimited space.. |
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| 22:07.49 | queso | valdyn: I can't find another tool to do that. |
| 22:07.55 | queso | valdyn: That doesn't crash.. |
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| 22:08.18 | valdyn | queso: xsane ? |
| 22:08.22 | queso | valdyn: Will moving /tmp have any potential to break my system and prevent it from booting? |
| 22:08.29 | valdyn | queso: no |
| 22:08.35 | queso | valdyn: xsane works, but I have to scan one page at a time. |
| 22:08.48 | rgb-one | What is the offtopic channel for debian? |
| 22:08.55 | srg | #debian-offtopic |
| 22:09.03 | srg | It's in the topic :-P |
| 22:09.30 | rgb-one | Ok thank you |
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| 22:10.26 | queso | valdyn: Thanks, I'll try it. |
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| 22:11.53 | valdyn | http://thetarah.com/2010/10/12/how-to-batch-scan-using-xsane/ |
| 22:13.32 | queso | valdyn: Oh alright I'll try xsane.. |
| 22:13.40 | valdyn | queso: make sure your new tmp also has drwxrwxrwt |
| 22:13.53 | valdyn | queso: i read that, it sounds awkward to use... |
| 22:14.02 | valdyn | queso: maybe its not that bad, i dont know |
| 22:14.37 | queso | valdyn: This entire problem was because the installer didn't let me easily give / a larger partition. :P |
| 22:14.59 | queso | I didn't want to recreate it all from scratch and it wouldn't let me just give it more space. |
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| 22:16.27 | valdyn | queso: next time: create swap (ramsize),create 20G /, create 20G /home, done, leave the rest free |
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| 22:17.24 | queso | valdyn: 20G /home ? |
| 22:17.26 | technologov | hi ! anyone wanna help me developer new features for VirtualBox ? |
| 22:17.37 | valdyn | queso: yea |
| 22:17.51 | valdyn | queso: its the last partition, its trivial to grow |
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| 22:18.16 | queso | valdyn: Does the disk being encrypted make any partition change stuff later more difficult? |
| 22:18.47 | valdyn | queso: you mean the whole disk is one encrypted volume? |
| 22:18.56 | valdyn | queso: or multiple? |
| 22:19.17 | valdyn | queso: it shouldnt make things harder at all, but i dont know how debian does set this up by default |
| 22:19.34 | queso | valdyn: I don't know, the debian default "everything encrypted" option. |
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| 22:21.24 | queso | valdyn: Moved /tmp, going to try scanning now. :) |
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| 22:22.58 | queso | valdyn: I'm a programmer by trade and I don't usually have a problem with un-polished programs. But xsane is too much. It takes forever and I have hundreds/thousands of pages I just want scanned so I can toss the papers out. |
| 22:23.31 | valdyn | queso: I think you should restore /tmp and use TEMP=/home/user/tmp for gscan2pdf |
| 22:23.54 | valdyn | queso: yea, well, i dont scan much so uh, there might not be real good program |
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| 22:24.47 | queso | valdyn: Ahh, I will try that TEMP variable. |
| 22:24.53 | queso | valdyn: And move it back. |
| 22:25.03 | queso | valdyn: But it appears to be working now. |
| 22:26.09 | dyanril | So i have a extracted the libflashplayer.so from the tar.gz file and it's in /etc/Flash/libflashplayer.so What am I supposed to do from here? |
| 22:27.13 | valdyn | dyanril: you should be using the debian package |
| 22:27.22 | valdyn | !flash |
| 22:27.23 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 22:28.14 | dyanril | apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree doesnt seem to work for me |
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| 22:28.57 | valdyn | !doesn't work |
| 22:28.57 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 22:29.18 | dyanril | lol |
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| 22:31.02 | dyanril | Package flashplugin-nonfree is not available, but is referred to by another package. this may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or is only available from another source |
| 22:31.07 | dyanril | Thats what I get |
| 22:31.10 | valdyn | !non-free |
| 22:31.10 | dpkg | [non-free] a component which contains software that does not comply with the <DFSG>. To add non-free packages to your packages index, ask me about <non-free sources>. To see which non-free packages are installed ask me about <non-free list>. For the non-free tracking system, see http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/ |
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| 22:33.40 | dyanril | http://imgur.com//IG3Bruo thats what my sources.list looks like |
| 22:34.06 | valdyn | judd: versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 22:34.10 | judd | Package: flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2+wheezy1; sid/contrib: 1:3.6.1; jessie/contrib: 1:3.6.1 |
| 22:34.18 | valdyn | dyanril: you need to run "apt-get update" |
| 22:34.19 | queso | valdyn: gscan2pdf doesn't honor TEMP, awesomely. |
| 22:34.39 | PerfDave | queso: Submit a bug report? :) |
| 22:35.00 | dyanril | so the source.list file is ok right? |
| 22:35.08 | valdyn | dyanril: yes |
| 22:35.28 | valdyn | dyanril: oh, no, its not |
| 22:35.32 | dyanril | XD |
| 22:35.34 | valdyn | dyanril: add "contrib" |
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| 22:36.14 | valdyn | dyanril: ok, its already there - you just have the unusual order... |
| 22:36.29 | valdyn | dyanril: now you should be able to install that package anyway |
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| 22:38.08 | queso | PerfDave: I could. |
| 22:38.25 | queso | PerfDave: But that doesn't help me right now. :) |
| 22:38.30 | dyanril | Sorry I'm super bad at using vim. (I dont have the esc key) so its really complicated |
| 22:39.18 | queso | dyanril: ctrl [ |
| 22:39.25 | valdyn | dyanril: what kind of system has no esc key? |
| 22:39.29 | queso | dyanril: Is "Esc" in vim. |
| 22:39.30 | dyanril | a phone |
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| 22:39.37 | queso | dyanril: Nevermind :) |
| 22:39.42 | valdyn | dyanril: a phone with an intel cpu? |
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| 22:40.10 | valdyn | dyanril: flash wont work on non-intel linux I think |
| 22:40.14 | dyanril | samsung galaxy s5 |
| 22:40.18 | dyanril | with debian no root |
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| 22:42.19 | dyanril | I think my issue is I'm not saving the file. |
| 22:42.31 | dyanril | I keep having to recover whenever i try to open it |
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| 22:45.15 | dyanril | so on vim it says Press ENTER or type command to continue |
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| 22:45.24 | dyanril | how do i save and close it? |
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| 22:45.41 | dyanril | press wq? |
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| 22:46.06 | polyphagia | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ is this the full gnome install? |
| 22:46.08 | Dreamix | ESC:x! |
| 22:46.14 | Dreamix | save and close |
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| 22:47.17 | dyanril | I dont have the esc key XD |
| 22:47.29 | Dreamix | oh :) |
| 22:47.42 | polyphagia | you can use ctrl + c in vim to function as escape |
| 22:48.08 | dyanril | so after pressing ctrl + c then what? |
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| 22:48.15 | polyphagia | :wq or :x |
| 22:48.31 | Dreamix | cheers for polyphagia ! :D |
| 22:48.43 | dyanril | x just started deleting letters X-x |
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| 22:48.56 | polyphagia | do the colon first |
| 22:49.04 | hunteriam | why is the debian website so visually outdated? |
| 22:49.11 | hunteriam | is that an intentional descision? |
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| 22:49.21 | dyanril | gotcha |
| 22:49.41 | Dreamix | : fisrt, then x! |
| 22:49.53 | Dreamix | ortherwise x=delete |
| 22:50.01 | Dreamix | yes |
| 22:50.21 | hunteriam | is there a debian philosophy that explains why the website looks relatively old? |
| 22:50.27 | queso | valdyn: xsane also uses /tmp when you change it in the preferences to another dir.. maybe it's an underlying library using /tmp that the scanning software can't control. |
| 22:51.23 | dyanril | So my entire problem was me not pressing : |
| 22:51.25 | dyanril | X_x |
| 22:51.26 | Dreamix | hunteriam: probably because the good admins are worst web designers :D |
| 22:51.38 | polyphagia | debian's site is pretty good |
| 22:51.55 | hunteriam | polyphagia: its ok, but ubuntu, fedora, definitely outdo it imo |
| 22:51.56 | polyphagia | everything's clear, it functions without scripts, nothing too tiny |
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| 22:52.20 | hunteriam | Dreamix: thats comforting, i was afraid it had to do with being run by grumpy 70 year olds from the dawn of computing |
| 22:52.40 | polyphagia | debian isn't really a product though like ubuntu markets itself as |
| 22:52.47 | hunteriam | polyphagia: its functional, that doesnt mean its visually modern |
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| 22:52.59 | polyphagia | it's visually neutral |
| 22:53.09 | hunteriam | polyphagia: actually it looks old to me |
| 22:53.18 | dyanril | e: unable to locate package flashplugin-nonfree what am i doing wrong |
| 22:53.27 | hunteriam | neutral would be lacking colors and images imo |
| 22:53.32 | l0p3n | Hello, does anyone know if a counterpart to SysVinit's "sysv-rc-conf" exist in systemd? |
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| 22:55.44 | dyanril | Oh, i messed up the sources.list |
| 22:56.51 | ryouma | what programs call xdg-screensaver? it keeps popping up in my process list. |
| 22:57.22 | l0p3n | Oh, ignore my question, found this http://www.itwire.com/business-it-news/open-source/65684-debian-leader-says-users-can-continue-with-sysvinit |
| 22:57.34 | ryouma | does slock launch xdg-screensaver? |
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| 23:00.10 | dyanril | so my source.list is ok? I've apt-get update, and apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree but it still says package is not available |
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| 23:00.28 | dyanril | http://imgur.com//IG3Bruo thats my source.list |
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| 23:01.02 | valdyn | dyanril: theres no flash for arm linux I think |
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| 23:01.37 | polyphagia | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:01.39 | judd | Package: flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2+wheezy1; sid/contrib: 1:3.6.1; jessie/contrib: 1:3.6.1 |
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| 23:02.52 | valdyn | ,versions flashplugin-nonfree:armhf |
| 23:02.53 | judd | No package named 'flashplugin-nonfree:armhf' was found in i386. |
| 23:03.00 | polyphagia | oh i didn't see arm |
| 23:03.04 | polyphagia | yeah there isn't |
| 23:03.16 | polyphagia | if you're looking to play videos, get mpv and youtube-dl |
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| 23:03.25 | kWO901 | I am now using wicd for like a week. Is it safe to uninstall networkmanager? (i mean they dont work together or anything, right?) |
| 23:03.32 | dyanril | ah yeah pandora was asking to update my flash |
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| 23:04.08 | dyanril | So how did you know it was the arm linux? |
| 23:04.15 | l0p3n | kWO901: Yes it's ok |
| 23:04.24 | kWO901 | loop3r: ok thx |
| 23:04.43 | valdyn | dyanril: because thats the cpu in that S5 |
| 23:04.53 | dyanril | ah |
| 23:05.00 | polyphagia | where can i get the DVDs for the full gnome debian? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-dvd/ is this correct? |
| 23:05.17 | valdyn | polyphagia: use netinstall |
| 23:05.28 | polyphagia | well my friend says he has an unreliable internet connection |
| 23:05.33 | polyphagia | and would rather download it ahead of time |
| 23:05.40 | polyphagia | i'm just making sure this is right before i link to him |
| 23:05.40 | dyanril | Even though I'm running debian wheezy? |
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| 23:08.57 | crippledmonk | youtube works great via mpsyt for me |
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| 23:09.34 | crippledmonk | that's a terminal based search then sends out to mplayer or vlc if you want |
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| 23:14.45 | b1eedr | yea mpsyt is awesome |
| 23:14.59 | b1eedr | i put it in a bash script |
| 23:15.04 | b1eedr | in a cron job |
| 23:15.09 | b1eedr | it's nice |
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| 23:17.54 | jhutchins | dyanril: The problem is that flash is built by adobe, not by debian, and they don't build an arm version. |
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| 23:21.14 | crippledmonk | dyanril: you could use pianobar via terminal to access your pandora. That's how I'm doing it right now. |
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| 23:22.51 | hunteriam | can i use jjigdo to get a usb install imagE? |
| 23:23.02 | hunteriam | on the jigdo page its all cd/usb |
| 23:23.05 | hunteriam | cd/dvd* |
| 23:25.31 | dyanril | Awesome to know! thanks everyone for the help |
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| 23:25.51 | dyanril | I am 100% new to linux so all this has been a little confusing for me |
| 23:27.36 | hunteriam | dyanril: what inspired you to try it? |
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| 23:28.52 | dyanril | I've just been messing with my phone lately. I got bored with emulators. and saw a debian app i could use without rooting my phone |
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| 23:29.17 | dyanril | I tried to put debian on it a long time ago, but didnt feel like rooting my phone. |
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| 23:30.32 | hunteriam | dyanril: oh youre putting it on your phone?? why? |
| 23:30.46 | dyanril | Why not? |
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| 23:33.00 | hunteriam | no reason |
| 23:33.02 | hunteriam | but why yes? |
| 23:33.10 | hunteriam | why not just stick with old phone |
| 23:33.45 | hunteriam | dyanril: ^ |
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| 23:35.18 | dyanril | Oh, idk. I just like the how it looks/feels more like a pc instead of a phone. |
| 23:35.48 | hunteriam | dyanril: what kinda phone do you have? i didnt even know you could get it on your phone |
| 23:37.23 | dyanril | I have a samsung galaxy s5 |
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| 23:38.39 | dyanril | There is an app called debian no root. Its not the actuall full debian os its a compatability layer which allows me to run debian applications |
| 23:38.56 | dyanril | https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cuntubuntu&hl=en |
| 23:39.19 | dyanril | Its kinda cool, but can be a little laggy if I open to many applications at once. |
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| 23:41.12 | dyanril | Flash apparently doesnt work lol |
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| 23:43.02 | hunteriam | dyanril: youre doing so much on your phone! |
| 23:43.11 | hunteriam | whats the debian experience like on phones? |
| 23:43.59 | dyanril | Weird, the mouse is a little awkward. And there is no esc key unless i plus a keyboard into my phone |
| 23:44.36 | dyanril | I also have a psp,psx,n64,nds,gba,snes,dreamcast emulators on my phone. |
| 23:44.45 | hunteriam | dyanril: just get a tablet! |
| 23:44.51 | dyanril | Right lol |
| 23:44.52 | hunteriam | i cant imagine doing all that on that tiny screen |
| 23:45.30 | dyanril | It works because its in my pocket portable, and having 2 kids i never get to touch my computer anymore XD |
| 23:46.26 | hunteriam | parenthood sounds not right for me |
| 23:46.28 | hunteriam | not for a long time |
| 23:48.17 | dyanril | Its not that bad. |
| 23:49.04 | dyanril | On the plus side by the time i'm 40~ they should be out of the house XD |
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| 23:50.09 | dyanril | Alright, well I'm out. Thanks for the help everyone. |
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