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| 00:09.20 | mrdeb | does anyone know fix for via openchrome driver corruption beyond deb 7, where it worked fine before with s3 kn400 |
| 00:09.28 | mrdeb | screen is re3d with lines and all |
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| 00:50.04 | ArchDuke | Any have any luck playing hbo now in the latest chromium? I've got flash 17.0.0.134 but the video just never seems to load |
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| 00:55.55 | cstk421 | My goal is for a script to monitor if the vpn gateway is reachable (meaning the tunnnel is up) and trigger the email notification when it reaches the gateway. I dont want it to do it on a time interval. thoughts ? |
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| 00:57.26 | centrx | How else would you do it without a time interval? |
| 00:58.34 | cstk421 | i guess saying no time interval isnt entirely correct. the previous script i had was on a timer and sent 4k emails in a few days b/c it would run check for wan access and email out status. i need this to only happen when a connection is initiated. |
| 00:58.48 | cstk421 | i tried using post-up but it never works |
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| 00:59.07 | abrotman | why post-up ? |
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| 00:59.24 | cstk421 | cause that runs only when an iface comes up right ? |
| 00:59.51 | abrotman | so, the VPN is bouncing up and down? |
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| 01:01.12 | cstk421 | well its more of the wan connection b/c this device will be on different 3g wan connections depending on geography so i need it to tell me when it comes up |
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| 01:26.46 | maazu | just burnt me a dvd rom via jigdo |
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| 01:28.09 | maazu | roughly 3.8Gig |
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| 01:28.52 | abrotman | !win maazu |
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| 01:30.19 | maazu | dpkg: thanks :) |
| 01:30.19 | dpkg | maazu: de rien |
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| 01:41.11 | israel2015 | hi i am getting error configure : error *** ln doesn't support --relative *** |
| 01:43.06 | maazu | gotta go |
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| 01:53.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps i am having an issue with using all the port on my video card, i got a hdmi, dvi and a vga, |
| 01:53.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:53.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | 21:52:55 Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/HIAj |
| 01:53.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | thats the error when i try to turn on the vga, |
| 01:53.44 | abrotman | Eryn_1983_FL: please don't cross post |
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| 02:03.13 | Hachya | is there something wrong with this iptables rule that I'm not seeing? "-A INPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT" I have this added in /etc/iptables/rules.v4 and am running "iptables-restore < rules.v4" and it tells me that this line failed, for some reason. |
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| 02:03.40 | abrotman | probably need a -m tcp (but probably ask #netfilter to be sure) |
| 02:03.49 | Hachya | ty |
| 02:03.52 | Hachya | will try thatr |
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| 02:04.46 | Hachya | yep still failed :( |
| 02:06.00 | abrotman | where did you put it? |
| 02:06.23 | Hachya | bottom, waaait a minute. |
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| 02:07.59 | Hachya | okay so the debian iptables config isn't as easy to read to mea s the centos one, where I can just be sure I have it above the rules that say "REJECT" there's multiple sections in this one, which was created with iptables-persistent |
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| 02:08.22 | Hachya | like in this one I have *raw *nat, etc |
| 02:08.32 | Hachya | is tehre a specific spot this one needs to go? |
| 02:09.17 | dariusb | Where do I apply configuration that would get the binary domainname to return a value? |
| 02:09.24 | abrotman | use a pastebin to show us the whole iptables ruleset |
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| 02:09.36 | abrotman | dariusb: /etc/mailname I would guess |
| 02:10.04 | abrotman | eh, nope |
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| 02:12.03 | dariusb | zfs instantiated iscsi exports require the population of "domainname", is why I'm asking |
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| 02:12.34 | Hachya | Full ruleset file: http://paste.debian.net/plain/166467 |
| 02:12.47 | Hachya | I think having it at the end is what might be my problem, but I have no idea where to put it really |
| 02:13.17 | Hachya | like in the CentOS config, it'll just show you ACCEPT and REJECT rules and you put it above the REJECT ones to make it active. |
| 02:13.25 | Hachya | in this one...it's...not as easy to figure out. |
| 02:14.13 | abrotman | -A INPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j ACCEPT ? |
| 02:14.24 | Hachya | that's the rule I added, yes |
| 02:14.57 | abrotman | no, yours is different |
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| 02:15.18 | Hachya | okay you swapped -m and -p? |
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| 02:16.23 | kWO901 | d |
| 02:16.24 | abrotman | Though, your original should have worked |
| 02:16.29 | Hachya | still fails using them swapped |
| 02:16.36 | Hachya | it has to be where it is in the file, no? |
| 02:16.40 | abrotman | Oh, why is it after the COMMIT ? |
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| 02:17.15 | Hachya | that's what I'm thjinking, but which section so I put it in? raw, nat, mangle, or filter? |
| 02:17.42 | abrotman | just before the commit |
| 02:17.56 | abrotman | (really, #netfilter would have caught that in a second :) ) |
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| 02:18.59 | Hachya | right, but which commit, there's like 4 |
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| 02:19.44 | Hachya | did under nat, worked this time |
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| 02:22.11 | israel2015 | hi i am :/miraclecast# apt-get install libsystemd-dev |
| 02:22.11 | israel2015 | Reading package lists... Done |
| 02:22.11 | israel2015 | Building dependency tree |
| 02:22.11 | israel2015 | Reading state information... Done |
| 02:22.11 | israel2015 | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 02:22.12 | israel2015 | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
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| 02:23.09 | themill | dpkg: tell israel2015 about bat |
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| 02:25.42 | israel2015 | http://paste.debian.net/166469/ any idea how to fix it i am new thanks |
| 02:26.07 | themill | israel2015: the rest of the things dpkg asked you for would help |
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| 02:27.25 | n2daz | hey, can anyone help me turn on colors in the root terminal? I'd really appreciate it! |
| 02:27.56 | abrotman | n2daz: you mean like ls --color ? |
| 02:28.25 | n2daz | I'm not sure, is that how you do it? Honestly all I know is that my terminal has no color |
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| 02:32.26 | israel2015 | n2daz, If you log in as root, it uses roots ~/.bashrc file which is sourced every time you log in as root. In ~/.bashrc file you'll find the following lines |
| 02:32.26 | israel2015 | # You may uncomment the following lines if you want `ls' to be colorized: |
| 02:32.26 | israel2015 | # export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto' |
| 02:32.26 | israel2015 | # eval "`dircolors`" |
| 02:32.26 | israel2015 | # alias ls='ls $LS_OPTIONS' |
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| 02:33.08 | n2daz | Thanks, let me try that out |
| 02:33.32 | themill | israel2015: life can be a learning experience. |
| 02:33.46 | israel2015 | sorry |
| 02:33.53 | israel2015 | n2daz, http://paste.debian.net/166472/ |
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| 02:36.05 | n2daz | I don't see those lines in .bashrc |
| 02:36.17 | n2daz | I'm using Jessie, if that makes a difference |
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| 02:40.39 | abrotman | n2daz: so add them |
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| 02:44.01 | SpikeMaster | hi debian |
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| 02:50.00 | donofrio | any command line client for 1.fm (I know just had to ask cause I use pianobar on debian....) |
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| 02:58.39 | somiaj | donofrio: mplayer can stream music and is comand line, unsure if you need anything special for 1.fm |
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| 03:03.31 | buu | If you use pianobar.. keep using it? |
| 03:03.37 | buu | PUZZLED. |
| 03:03.50 | buu | Or do you mean you want something that does what pianobar does except for 1.fm |
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| 03:10.12 | wuwye | how to avoid eye strain with intel chipset ? |
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| 03:10.22 | pantato | how come there's no package for wgetpaste? |
| 03:10.31 | donofrio | buu: I want same, with more when pianobar doesn't play anything but 30sec commercials....and I'm listening to 1.fm now but within big engine xbmc... |
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| 03:11.12 | somiaj | pantato: what is wgetpaste do? |
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| 03:11.53 | pantato | somiaj, automatically uploads the output of a command to pastebin |
| 03:12.05 | somiaj | !pastebinit |
| 03:12.05 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 03:12.12 | somiaj | pantato: or check out nopaste |
| 03:12.26 | pantato | but i like wgetpaste |
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| 03:12.49 | wuwye | humm, wgetpaste doesn't seem support debian paste, useless then |
| 03:13.41 | somiaj | pantato: you make a package request, maybe matain the packge yourself, or most likely it is a script you can just install locally. |
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| 03:15.35 | Devastator | somiaj can you, that helped many many times, give me your opinion about this? I want to install Java EE and Glassfish server on Debian Jessie, these packages doesn't seem available on official debian repos, ##java guys says I should just download and extract zip files from Java, as I like to do things "the right way" or at least in a way debian recommends, what do you think I should do? |
| 03:16.17 | somiaj | Devastator: debian is set up to work with thrid party stuff. Install third party stuff in /usr/local or /opt |
| 03:16.36 | Devastator | somiaj thank you! |
| 03:16.44 | somiaj | Devastator: But extacting a tar ball and putting things in /usr/local, /opt or $HOME is just fine. |
| 03:16.59 | somiaj | Devastator: main thing you have to check is debian jessie has the libs required to either build or run what ever zip you get |
| 03:17.34 | Devastator | somiaj it's hard to be in the middle, I want to do recommended things for both heheh |
| 03:17.48 | Devastator | but you certainly gave me a solution :) |
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| 03:20.35 | somiaj | Devastator: well it is your box, you get to be the admin. The main thing about the 'debian way' is only allow dpkg to install things in /usr. Stuf that dpkg doesn't installed should be put in /usr/local or other acceptable places. |
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| 03:21.07 | somiaj | Devastator: debian even provides tools like stow or checkinstall for manging local source installs. I think it is nice because you just want to keep the stuff dpkg manages seperate of the stuff you manage locally |
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| 03:21.39 | Devastator | somiaj exactly, I try not to mixture those |
| 03:21.51 | donofrio | checkinstall good stuff fwiw |
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| 03:22.09 | Devastator | somiaj breaking dpkg is ask for trouble |
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| 03:22.47 | somiaj | Devastator: or a fun time! |
| 03:22.57 | Devastator | not really :P |
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| 03:38.25 | moss | Hi there. I have a weird issue. I'm installing Debian 7.8 on two "Rackable Systems C1000" servers. They have two 80 GB drives and I'm only using 1 for the install. I allow debian to choose guided LVM with a single partition and install the OS. On reboot, I get a "Welcome to GRUB!" screen and it hangs there (with no grub prompt or OS selection) and I am unable to CTRL ALT DEL -- I have to manually reset |
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| 03:38.28 | moss | the server. I've tried booting into rescue with a USB stick and uncommenting =console in /etc/default/grub but that does not work. Any idea what the issue could be? I should mention, hardware raid is disabled on the servers (because of the issues I had installing other distros on them). Thanks! |
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| 03:40.06 | Devastator | somiaj do I need to type update-java-alternatives if I'm using make-jpkg? |
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| 03:44.27 | somiaj | Devastator: the java pkacage that gets made should do all that I belive, I haven't used that in a long time. |
| 03:44.58 | Devastator | somiaj java -v might tell me which version it is using, right? |
| 03:45.04 | somiaj | correct |
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| 03:46.16 | Devastator | done and done, yay |
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| 05:01.43 | Rovanion | Is crontab executed in dash or bash? |
| 05:02.28 | cafuego | pretty sure /bin/sh unless you specify otherwise. |
| 05:02.46 | somiaj | which should point to dash on debian systems. |
| 05:03.02 | Rovanion | Hmm, dash then yeah |
| 05:06.32 | Rovanion | But I can specify SHELL=/bin/bash at the top of the crontab? |
| 05:06.45 | crane | good morning (at least in my timezone) I have trouble with preseeding an installation. It gets stuck at the beginning of the installation where I have to choose a language. I thought that would be handled with these few lines http://paste.debian.net/166475/ Can someone help me out? :) |
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| 06:13.32 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 06:31.17 | nami | what is standard, apt-get or aptitude? |
| 06:31.38 | crane | nami: use whatever you would like to use |
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| 06:32.32 | jelly | or use apt! Now there are three. |
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| 06:33.59 | monkwitdafunk | apt-get and apt-cache are gnu linux shell commands for package management. the there is aptitude and dselect or synaptic as front ends |
| 06:34.18 | monkwitdafunk | i really like synaptic |
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| 06:34.51 | monkwitdafunk | theres also aptcdrom i think |
| 06:34.52 | jelly | monkwitdafunk: aptitude has a CLI as well |
| 06:35.07 | monkwitdafunk | synaptic is a frontend to aptcdrom |
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| 06:35.35 | monkwitdafunk | yeah? ok i think that was the one such as the top task manager |
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| 06:35.48 | monkwitdafunk | -top- |
| 06:36.13 | monkwitdafunk | im moving over to debian 7.8.0 btw |
| 06:36.58 | mjt | why not 8.0? :) |
| 06:37.45 | jelly | it's still not "8.0" yet. Why not jessie? :-] |
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| 06:37.48 | monkwitdafunk | how do i patch the kernel using debian? |
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| 06:38.04 | mjt | apt-get upgrade? |
| 06:38.21 | mjt | jelly: well yes, you're a nitpicker ;) |
| 06:38.26 | monkwitdafunk | can i just update my system using the bittorrent protocol? |
| 06:38.36 | jelly | monkwitdafunk: the usual way, if you're dealing with vanilla source or your own tree |
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| 06:39.18 | mjt | re bittorrent: just a guess, but it looks like even if it is supported there wouldn't be any gain since there should be almost no seeders |
| 06:39.27 | monkwitdafunk | if i can patch the kernel using synaptic off my burnt DVD i get off bittorrent |
| 06:40.03 | jelly | monkwitdafunk: mirrors have enough bandwidth so very few debian users are interested in distribution via torrent or other p2p |
| 06:40.26 | mjt | you can update the kernel if a new release is available in debian archives |
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| 06:41.06 | monkwitdafunk | i was wondering if its possible just to rely on torrent |
| 06:41.45 | jelly | there is |
| 06:41.49 | jelly | ,i apt-p2p |
| 06:41.50 | judd | Package apt-p2p (net, optional) in wheezy/i386: apt helper for peer-to-peer downloads of Debian packages. Version: 0.1.6+nmu1; Size: 108.6k; Installed: 519k; Homepage: http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/ |
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| 06:42.03 | jelly | I have no idea how well it works or if it works at all |
| 06:42.38 | monkwitdafunk | the debian archives is available by bittorrent protocol? |
| 06:42.47 | jelly | monkwitdafunk: it's not usual practice. |
| 06:43.25 | monkwitdafunk | i know. i feel like doing it that what. bittorrent, burn dvd, use synaptic as root |
| 06:43.29 | monkwitdafunk | repeat |
| 06:43.59 | mjt | burn dvd? |
| 06:44.01 | jelly | installer media are available via bittorrent |
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| 06:53.11 | monkwitdafunk | http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/bt-dvd/ <<< i can get the update set of DVD's here |
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| 06:55.17 | monkwitdafunk | i think im going to go by adopting debian in that manner. should i start using dvd-rw or dvd-r? |
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| 06:57.33 | mjt | what;s wrong with apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? |
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| 06:59.25 | mjt | (ofcourse you can burn the result of `update' to dvd in the process, and use that dvd at `upgrade' stage, but that at least requires some minimal inner knowlege which might serve as a barrier to use dvd... ;) |
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| 08:06.10 | rnair | Hey sasanka howdy |
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| 08:06.17 | sasanka | i'm good |
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| 08:07.20 | rnair | guys we are facing an issue where my debian box is not learning mac address of another debian box |
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| 08:07.56 | rnair | sorry the another one is centOS box |
| 08:08.49 | rnair | any clues what could be causing trouble? |
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| 08:10.14 | Komanda | The config directory /etc/conf.d doesn't exist. Please either adjust the variable SCRIPTCONF in this script or create the directory. |
| 08:10.26 | Komanda | want to use this script https://github.com/Andrwe/privoxy-blocklist |
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| 08:12.10 | mjt | (shouldn't it be something like /etc/privoxy/conf.d/ instead?( |
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| 08:49.21 | cyphix | Hi. I encounter troubles with gstreamer. i can't make it read video files properly. When I try to read a .avi file with the command gst-launch-1.0 playbin uri=file:path-to-file.avi, it just displays a green screen with the sound. Is there a missing dependency I'm not aware of? I installed everything with the command apt-get install gstreamer1.0*, under debian jessie. |
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| 09:01.04 | CoffeeJ | @cyphix: i got gstreamer1.0-plugins-base-apps gstreamer1.0-tools libgstreamer1.0-0 as dependencies |
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| 09:03.51 | cyphix | CoffeeJ: I have this as well. So it might not be a dependency issue. What could it be then? |
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| 09:05.37 | CoffeeJ | looks like i just wanted to start your play command and it wants libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 which doesn't install because of a dep error. (Seems i broke my box again ;-)) |
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| 09:10.29 | cyphix | This dependency is installed as well for me. Doesn't fix the problem. |
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| 09:11.17 | CoffeeJ | have u verified your video setup with for example vlc ? |
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| 09:13.00 | cyphix | Yes, it perfectly works with vlc. |
| 09:13.45 | cyphix | Just to specify the reason I work on this: I can't inclue videos inside a libreoffice Impress presentation. And it seems to be linked to gstreamer. |
| 09:15.40 | CoffeeJ | i could imagine that the codec isnt supported in libeoffice ? perhaps try recode it with ffmpeg to mp4/mp3 avi ? |
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| 09:22.43 | CoffeeJ | <ffmpeg -i path-to-src -vcodec mpeg4 -acodec libmp3lame path-to-dst> should do it |
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| 09:24.01 | baribal_ | Hi. I just fired up a Debian VM, wanted to figure out its IP and noted that there is no ifconfig installed by default. Is that a matter of "It might not be needed", or is it being replaced by other tools? |
| 09:24.56 | tlkr | baribal_, is it just not in your path? try /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 09:25.26 | buu | baribal_: sbin isn't in you user's path by default in debian |
| 09:25.44 | buu | Thus confusing everyone who comes from ubuntu |
| 09:26.05 | baribal_ | Indeed you are right. Thanks, you two. |
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| 09:26.53 | cyphix | CoffeeJ: Unfortunately it still doesn't work. Same problem. The recoded video works under vlc, but not gstreamer. |
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| 09:28.08 | CoffeeJ | cyphix: im afraid im lost with you now :-( |
| 09:28.48 | CoffeeJ | damn why i have to be such a newbaby |
| 09:30.16 | cyphix | too bad :( |
| 09:31.57 | CoffeeJ | well it's not quite a solution but u could try open office ? |
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| 09:33.01 | cyphix | Is is still available? |
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| 09:33.17 | SynrGy | libreoffice is openoffice |
| 09:33.25 | SynrGy | under better management |
| 09:33.47 | SynrGy | ah. just caught up the scrollback ... |
| 09:34.13 | SynrGy | ,v libreoffice |
| 09:34.14 | judd | Package: libreoffice on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1:3.5.4+dfsg-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 1:3.5.4+dfsg2-0+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 1:4.3.3-2~bpo70+2; sid: 1:4.3.3-2; jessie: 1:4.3.3-2; experimental: 1:4.4.2~rc2-1 |
| 09:34.20 | SynrGy | which version of libreoffice? |
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| 09:34.26 | SynrGy | there is a newer one in backports. |
| 09:34.29 | cyphix | Is it possible to have libreoffice AND openoffice? |
| 09:34.32 | CoffeeJ | oh well thanks for the info |
| 09:34.50 | SynrGy | many things are possible ... |
| 09:34.58 | SynrGy | however, debian does not support openoffice. |
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| 09:35.06 | cyphix | ah... |
| 09:35.15 | SynrGy | it seems like a dubious venture to try to make it work, too |
| 09:35.31 | SynrGy | better to try to figure out what the issue is with libreoffice, and if there's a supported way around it |
| 09:35.55 | cyphix | Yeah, I would prefer a 'safer' solution |
| 09:36.05 | cyphix | but I'm totally lost... |
| 09:36.20 | SynrGy | this is an oldish article: |
| 09:36.22 | cyphix | The issue with libreoffice is actually an issue with gstreamer |
| 09:36.23 | SynrGy | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/smb-technologist/embed-video-into-a-libreoffice-impress-presentation/ |
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| 09:36.43 | cyphix | If I fix the gstreamer issue, I should fix the libreoffice one. |
| 09:36.47 | SynrGy | it claims (two years ago) that only Ogg Vorbis may be included |
| 09:36.55 | SynrGy | so you just convert to that |
| 09:37.17 | SynrGy | i would consult upstream's doc about that. |
| 09:37.41 | darxmurf | hum, should I restart networking to force 1000 speed ? |
| 09:37.55 | darxmurf | mii-tool gives me |
| 09:37.56 | cyphix | I could. It actually work. But, I can't find a way to convert without a massive loss of quality, and a friend under debian can play .avi and other formats with Impress. |
| 09:37.58 | darxmurf | eth0: negotiated 1000baseT-FD flow-control, link ok |
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| 09:38.14 | darxmurf | but ethtool : Speed: 100Mb/s |
| 09:38.18 | darxmurf | Oo |
| 09:38.24 | darxmurf | it was okay last week Oo |
| 09:38.45 | SynrGy | cyphix: "massive loss of quality" sounds like misuse of the conversion tools |
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| 09:39.41 | cyphix | SynrGy: Probably. I'm a total ignorant about these tools. |
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| 09:40.03 | cyphix | I tried some solutions, but all were not satisfying |
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| 09:42.21 | SynrG | ok. |
| 09:42.36 | SynrG | cyphix: you may have already found this, which claims anything gstreamer supports is supported: |
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| 09:42.44 | SynrG | http://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/854/what-video-formats-does-libreoffice-impress-support/?answer=1451#post-id-1451 |
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| 09:43.07 | MeteorCurse | Hi. help. whats wrong with coutchdb and beam. somehow beam with i have no idea what it is is consuming myvirtual memory like crazy |
| 09:43.09 | cyphix | Could you suggest me a tool/command line that would convert avi to ogg without much loss? |
| 09:43.20 | SynrG | cyphix: note: not all gstreamer plugins are installed by default |
| 09:43.39 | SynrG | well, that seems to be rather old advice. maybe you can get this to work with some additional gstreamer plugin |
| 09:43.42 | MeteorCurse | i tried to kill couchdb but its back |
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| 09:44.17 | SynrG | cyphix: check out the 'ugly' plugins |
| 09:44.43 | cyphix | SynrG: I already installed it. |
| 09:45.25 | CoffeeJ | cyphix <ffmpeg -i src dst.ogg> should work |
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| 09:47.38 | tytan | Hello, everyone. Is there a way apt can work even if /etc/apt/sources.list is empty? |
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| 09:48.13 | canvon | tytan: Perhaps there is something in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ ? |
| 09:48.25 | tytan | give me a sec |
| 09:48.35 | SynrG | CoffeeJ: surely you mean avconv ... |
| 09:49.16 | SynrG | it's confusing to say ffmpeg when you mean avconv, even if there is a symlink on your system, as they are not the same |
| 09:49.23 | SynrG | ,v ffmpeg |
| 09:49.24 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.17-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 6:0.8.17-1; sid: 7:2.6.1-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.1-dmo2; sid-multimedia: 10:2.6.2-dmo1 |
| 09:49.34 | tytan | canvon Yes, there the sources are. Thank you very much ^^ |
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| 09:49.49 | CoffeeJ | synrG well yes but still works for me *sorry my bad* |
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| 09:50.30 | SynrG | nods |
| 09:50.53 | SynrG | some of the above are metapackages depending on libav-tools, and some are actually ffmpeg. depends on the dist |
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| 09:53.17 | MeteorCurse | way is beam using couchdb and filing my virtual memory? |
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| 09:55.54 | canvon | MeteorCurse: BEAM is the Erlang (programming language's) virtual machine. CouchDB seems to be implemented in Erlang. |
| 09:56.00 | SynrG | cyphix: i have my doubts about this truly being a libreoffice issue. maybe try a player that uses gstreamer instead of vlc? like totem. |
| 09:56.07 | SynrG | cyphix: probably has the same green screen issue |
| 09:56.28 | SynrG | then debug it there. presumably if you can get that working, you can also get it to work in libreoffice |
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| 09:57.02 | elcheckito | how can i find out if package `foo' is installed? |
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| 09:57.59 | canvon | elcheckito: dpkg -l foo |
| 09:58.00 | gr33n7001 | elcheckito: dpkg -l | grep foo |
| 09:58.42 | MeteorCurse | canvon, there is somting fishy about beam is ocupying a lot virtual memory with coutchdb |
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| 10:03.00 | cyphix | SynrG: I just tested with totem, and the video plays perfectly fine. I don't understand... |
| 10:03.24 | SynrG | cyphix: huh. well, totem can actually use different backends |
| 10:03.30 | SynrG | is it using the gstreamer backend? not the xine one? |
| 10:03.43 | cyphix | no idea. How can I know? |
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| 10:04.12 | Meteorite | well my computer juts crashed lol |
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| 10:04.45 | Meteorite | still ihave to figger out the erlang mistery |
| 10:05.19 | SynrG | cyphix: well. not even sure if the jessie totem can use xine backend anymore ... can't find it |
| 10:06.43 | SynrG | presumably if you installed it in the normal way it would use gstreamer by default. |
| 10:06.58 | cyphix | SynrG: I don't know if it is relevant, but here is the result of the gstreamer command : http://p.cyphix.org/view/a7da64d0 |
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| 10:08.31 | oo_miguel | is it possible to have 2 versions of a library and its dev-files installed (32bit and 64bit) using muliarch? apt-get tells me it will remove the already installed version for some reason. |
| 10:08.52 | SynrG | cyphix: do that command again and prefix it with LC_ALL=C please |
| 10:09.04 | SynrG | cyphix: to get messages in english |
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| 10:10.30 | cyphix | http://p.cyphix.org/view/03e1a9d3 |
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| 10:11.54 | SynrG | cyphix: on the web it suggests uninstalling gstreamer1.0-vaapi might fix this |
| 10:12.05 | SynrG | different distro though. no idea if applicable also to debian |
| 10:12.11 | carp | hello, my gpu died a few weeks ago. I am getting a new one today. I am currently running xp. I know xp is out of date and I should upgrade. I am getting a new hard drive today aswell. I intend to install debian on it and dual boot. |
| 10:12.27 | carp | My motherboard and most parts are from 2007 ish. The new gpu and hard drive are current gen. I am worried that the parts wont be compatible. I got lots of advice from people before purchasing. The advice is to put the gpu in and test it works with xp before installing the hard drive and debian. I just wondered what some of you guys thought about that plan. Is that what you would do? |
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| 10:12.58 | buu | carp: If your gpu will plug into the motherboard debian will work with it |
| 10:13.27 | buu | I doubt there's very many 'current gen' gpus that will work with an 8 year old motherboard though. |
| 10:13.33 | carp | buu do you think i might have to do motherboard firmware updates as well as drivers? |
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| 10:14.08 | buu | Unlikely |
| 10:14.35 | cyphix | SynrG: Brilliant!!! It works now oO |
| 10:14.44 | SynrG | cyphix: super :) |
| 10:14.51 | CoffeeJ | :) |
| 10:14.51 | emash | hello everyone |
| 10:14.56 | carp | My motherboard is nForce 650i (C55) and the gpu is nvidia gt 740 |
| 10:15.05 | cyphix | Thanks A LOT :) My teachings are safe now :D |
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| 10:15.26 | emash | i don't understand what de is used with debian by default or by vast majority of it's users (sry) |
| 10:15.37 | SynrG | cyphix: i don't know what we just did there, or if there's a less hacky solution :p |
| 10:15.43 | carp | My advisors say it should hopefully work Before I purshased |
| 10:15.50 | buu | Huh. Might work. |
| 10:16.07 | cyphix | SynrG: I agree that this is quite weird. But I wont complain too much :) |
| 10:16.53 | SynrG | cyphix: also see i965-va-driver, which is apparently needed for intel vaapi support |
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| 10:17.50 | cyphix | SynrG: I have it already |
| 10:18.10 | SynrG | yeah. so i dunno. maybe for some other day, debug vaapi on your system |
| 10:18.14 | carp | buu thanks, its reassuring that even if it doesnt work with xp, i can still try debian anyway. So lets assume the gpu goes smoothly (or atleast I finish getting it to work). Now I just plug the new HD in and stick my debian install DVD in aswell and go from there? |
| 10:18.18 | SynrG | it should not break like that :p |
| 10:18.30 | jelly | SynrG: I found vaapi and vdpau (via vdpau-va-driver) to be too buggy on video-intel |
| 10:18.41 | SynrG | jelly: aha. thanks for that insight |
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| 10:19.07 | SynrG | i suppose i would look next for bugs filed on the debian vaapi intel driver pkg |
| 10:19.14 | SynrG | and/or bugs filed upstream |
| 10:19.46 | buu | carp: Sure. As long as the motherboard can see the harddisk and the cd drive it'll all just work. |
| 10:19.58 | buu | carp: You could even unplug the old hard disk if you were worried. |
| 10:20.03 | jelly | oo_miguel: many -dev packages aren't multiarch capable yet |
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| 10:20.56 | carp | buu ah thats a good idea, so now lets assume debian installed, and the old xp harddrive is unplugged. Can i just replug it in, and now i can dual boot? |
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| 10:22.49 | oo_miguel | jelly: oh, so if they are capable, I can install both versions |
| 10:23.21 | oo_miguel | otherwise the other arch will be replaced by the new one |
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| 10:27.17 | carp_ | sorry buu, my firefox crashed there. Last thing I saw was me posting 'assume debian is installed now, and the old xp Hard disk is unplugged, can i just replug it in and now i can dual boot?' |
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| 10:35.29 | SynrG | carp_: buu said: |
| 10:35.41 | SynrG | <buu> carp: Sure. As long as the motherboard can see the harddisk and the cd drive it'll all just work. |
| 10:35.41 | SynrG | <buu> carp: You could even unplug the old hard disk if you were worried. |
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| 10:37.10 | carp_ | SynrG: thanks. I did infact see those two lines. |
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| 10:37.39 | SynrG | that was all |
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| 10:37.56 | carp_ | Hmm, I am trying to work out what happens when I replug the old xp hard disk back in. Will I get the option to choose which to boot up? |
| 10:38.48 | SynrG | try it and see? |
| 10:40.20 | carp_ | SynrG: ok cool, i am happy to play around with grub and stuff, looking forward to it. I will back up all my work first though as I just know I will break something haha. |
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| 10:42.12 | carp_ | One other question I had was about debian install. Last year I made a dvd but since then a newer version of debian stable has been released. Do I need to make a new dvd or can I just stick the old one in and rely on the internet to get the latest version? |
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| 10:43.51 | SynrG | carp_: either one. of course, if you care about the brief period of being insecure between the install and upgrade, master a new install image ... |
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| 10:44.24 | SynrG | that being said, if you're behind a firewall on a trusted network, your actual risk during that time is probably very small. |
| 10:44.38 | toad_ | trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libxrender1/changelog.Debian.gz', which is different from other instances of package libxrender1:amd64 |
| 10:44.43 | toad_ | is this a known problem? |
| 10:45.14 | SynrG | toad_: probably. jessie? |
| 10:45.23 | toad_ | no, this is wheezy(!!) |
| 10:45.34 | SynrG | then probably not. |
| 10:45.51 | SynrG | multiarch issue? |
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| 10:46.05 | toad_ | granted it's wheezy with deb-multimedia... but this is from mainline afaics |
| 10:46.08 | toad_ | yes |
| 10:46.32 | SynrG | multiarch was only partially supported in wheezy |
| 10:46.48 | toad_ | it is better supported in jessie |
| 10:46.50 | toad_ | ? |
| 10:46.50 | SynrG | ,v libxrender1 |
| 10:46.51 | judd | Package: libxrender1 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:0.9.6-1+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:0.9.6-1+squeeze1; wheezy: 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1; jessie: 1:0.9.8-1+b1; sid: 1:0.9.8-1+b1 |
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| 10:47.02 | SynrG | which version of libxrender1? |
| 10:47.03 | toad_ | anyway, "apt-get dist-upgrade breaks on stable" is imho fairly serious |
| 10:47.23 | SynrG | when you've mixed deb-multimedia, all bets are off, i'm afraid :p |
| 10:48.01 | CoffeeJ | carp: install debian on the second hd install grub in the mbr plug the old xp disc select ur debian disc in bios boot into debian run "update-grub" and u should get an entry for debian and xp |
| 10:48.03 | toad_ | unfortunately the only way to get rid of that is to build myth from source :| |
| 10:48.30 | SynrG | or use xbmc instead of myth, which is actually supported |
| 10:48.52 | toad_ | anyway there seems to be a clash between the installed versions for amd64 and i386 of libxrender1 on the file /usr/share/doc/libxrender1/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 10:49.27 | SynrG | version skew? |
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| 10:50.44 | toad_ | hmmm |
| 10:51.06 | toad_ | so apt is supposed to update the i386 and amd64 versions simultaneously but is unable to actually do so? |
| 10:51.30 | SynrG | could be. as i said, mixing deb-multimedia could screw things up |
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| 10:51.51 | SynrG | so if you had a dep that prevented the upgrade of one, maybe you end up with versions skewed |
| 10:51.57 | toad_ | they are both supposed to be updated afaics ... but it breaks because the first one clashes with the old version of the second one |
| 10:52.08 | SynrG | but in that case, i wouldn't expect this error, but another |
| 10:52.08 | SynrG | that's the usual "fun" with multiarch |
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| 10:52.30 | SynrG | you could try upgrading both together and see what it says |
| 10:52.40 | toad_ | so it can only be updated by removing both and then installing both ... but the apt in wheezy isn't smart enough to realise that? |
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| 10:56.04 | toad_ | hmmm |
| 10:56.14 | toad_ | no, there is a conflict between them *in the latest version* |
| 10:57.12 | toad_ | messed around with --force-dependencies to force it to reinstall both and it still breaks, with .../libxrender1_1%3a0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1_amd64.deb and .../libxrender1_1%3a0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1_i386.deb |
| 10:57.29 | SynrG | no. --force-overwrite |
| 10:57.32 | toad_ | in apt-get -f install |
| 10:57.39 | SynrG | force-dependencies doesn't do anything with that |
| 10:57.58 | carp_ | SynrG: Thanks for the help. |
| 10:58.01 | toad_ | yes, i had to use force-depend to uninstall them |
| 10:58.16 | SynrG | oh |
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| 11:00.22 | SynrG | toad_: my sid system has http://paste.debian.net/166518/ |
| 11:00.29 | SynrG | i don't know if that sheds any light on things |
| 11:00.41 | SynrG | i don't know what dpkg is supposed to do here. |
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| 11:01.43 | SynrG | if you're having to force dependencies to make things work, that sounds like it could be a deb-multimedia screwup |
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| 11:02.37 | toad_ | hmmm, what's the debian policy manual section for "it breaks dist-upgrade" ? |
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| 11:02.59 | SynrG | i'm afraid you won't find much sympathy for that problem. i rather suspect a clean chroot of wheezy with the versions you have would upgrade cleanly |
| 11:03.16 | SynrG | the debian policy manual says nothing about third-party components. |
| 11:03.24 | toad_ | this is not a third party component |
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| 11:03.42 | toad_ | this is a clash between the the same mainline debian package on two arch's |
| 11:03.45 | SynrG | you install those, and expect breakages of this nature |
| 11:03.48 | toad_ | which makes apt-get dist-upgrade fail |
| 11:03.57 | toad_ | huh?! it let me install both packages in the first place |
| 11:04.04 | toad_ | and mythtv did not have anything to do with it |
| 11:04.05 | SynrG | i know. i hypothesize it's involved in a deb-multimedia dependency chain |
| 11:04.11 | cy5 | how to block http and https request and redirect them to fix IP or a URL |
| 11:04.37 | SynrG | if you can prove, in a clean wheezy install, that the package doesn't upgrade. you have a bug you could file |
| 11:04.56 | toad_ | SynrG: so your theory is that it's not allowed on plain debian without multimedia? |
| 11:04.58 | SynrG | the fact you have deb-multimedia taints your system and makes you unsupported |
| 11:05.02 | darxmurf | what's this joke : [450623.745073] igb 0000:01:00.0 eth0: Link Speed was downgraded by SmartSpeed |
| 11:05.05 | toad_ | yet somehow it is allowed with deb-multimedia? |
| 11:05.05 | darxmurf | Oo |
| 11:05.07 | toad_ | oh FFS |
| 11:05.17 | SynrG | toad_: no. my theory is that it's fine on plain debian |
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| 11:05.31 | SynrG | and that this package is involved in some deb-multimedia dependency chain |
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| 11:06.08 | SynrG | toad_: debian has QA scripts that run over the whole archive to guarantee upgradability |
| 11:06.20 | cy5 | how to block http and https request and redirect them to fix IP or a URL debian wheezy |
| 11:06.25 | toad_ | SynrG: what's a dependency chain? it is attempting to install the latest version of both the x86 and amd64 versions of this package ... it fails. that seems clear-cut, unless deb-multimedia is somehow enabling me to install both versions when i should only be able to install one architecture at a time? |
| 11:06.32 | SynrG | toad_: that would surely have caught this if in an untainted debian the install fails |
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| 11:06.50 | toad_ | yes i agree it seems unlikely :( |
| 11:07.02 | toad_ | do they actually check all multiarch combinations though? |
| 11:07.08 | SynrG | toad_: a dependency chain is what it sounds like. any sequence of dependencies from one thing to another that ultimately leads to the packages that you are having problems with |
| 11:07.09 | toad_ | i thought multiarch wasn't fully supported either? |
| 11:07.20 | SynrG | toad_: i don't know. you would have to ask QA about it. |
| 11:07.37 | SynrG | toad_: but i wouldn't bother them without evidence this breaks on a pure wheezy system |
| 11:07.48 | toad_ | I don't see how this could possibly be a dependency issue. I need both packages. it's legal to install both packages. and they break each other at install time. |
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| 11:08.02 | SynrG | e.g. debootstrap a wheezy system, install older versions of the packages (the ones you have) and then upgrade |
| 11:08.05 | SynrG | see if it breaks |
| 11:08.16 | toad_ | I have actually removed the old versions |
| 11:08.19 | toad_ | I will try purging them |
| 11:08.33 | SynrG | yes. they break each other probably due to version skew, which is probably due to a too-strict dependency chain |
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| 11:08.46 | toad_ | no, it is installing the same version of each |
| 11:08.54 | SynrG | but since you did force dependencies, now your test case is spoiled |
| 11:09.02 | toad_ | please could you explain "version skew" ? |
| 11:09.14 | toad_ | well sure but you already said i'm unsupported and I just want the thing to work |
| 11:09.18 | SynrG | one version of the package differs from the other |
| 11:09.23 | toad_ | no it doesn't |
| 11:09.32 | SynrG | you asked what "version skew" meant |
| 11:09.35 | SynrG | i wasn't asserting that |
| 11:09.42 | toad_ | they are the same bloody version number |
| 11:09.57 | SynrG | so? you could have a package installed for only one arch that depends on one version |
| 11:10.02 | toad_ | http://code.bulix.org/bevqbm-88202 |
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| 11:10.10 | SynrG | and yet the version in the archive is ahead |
| 11:10.18 | toad_ | yes, sure, but THIS IS NOT A DEPENDENCY PROBLEM |
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| 11:10.20 | SynrG | that sort of thing |
| 11:10.32 | toad_ | please have a look at the paste? I don't want to flood |
| 11:10.34 | SynrG | we don't know what it is, since you run an unsupported system. :/ |
| 11:11.07 | toad_ | first it installs libxrender1_1%3a0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1_amd64.deb, which succeeds |
| 11:11.28 | toad_ | then it installs libxrender1_1%3a0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1_i386.deb, which fails because of a clash on /usr/share/doc/libxrender1/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 11:12.02 | SynrG | you could unpack both deb files and check its assertion |
| 11:12.43 | SynrG | if you find the files differ, you could, as I said, make a clean debootstrap of wheezy, enable multiarch and install both of these |
| 11:13.03 | SynrG | then file the bug based on the failure to coinstall them |
| 11:14.16 | SynrG | i agree it looks suspicious. |
| 11:14.49 | SynrG | it may be a problem because it was binNMUd? |
| 11:15.02 | SynrG | (see the +b1 suffix) |
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| 11:16.00 | SynrG | toad_: you said you wanted it to "just work". you could use dpkg --force-overwrite on the pair of packages. |
| 11:16.21 | SynrG | toad_: but it's looking to me like you have a stronger case that this is a bug than I previously thought |
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| 11:17.45 | toad_ | it definitely shouldn't happen, and should have been picked up by automation :( |
| 11:18.11 | toad_ | will try on a system that isn't tainted, 1mo |
| 11:19.39 | SynrG | toad_: as you hinted, QA may not try all possible multiarch combinations. i don't know. but to get them to listen you need a test on an untainted system. |
| 11:21.00 | toad_ | am I tainted and unsupported because of having non-free? |
| 11:21.05 | SynrG | no |
| 11:21.12 | SynrG | only by mixing third-party packages |
| 11:21.19 | SynrG | and *you* are not tainted. only your system is ;) |
| 11:21.28 | SynrG | !why not dmm |
| 11:21.28 | dpkg | The deb-multimedia.org repository was once the only way of getting good multimedia support. By the release of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" this was mostly not true and for Debian 7 "Wheezy" this situation is even better. Libraries from dmm are known to cause incompatibilities with packages from Debian; packages may not meet the <DFSG> so are not allowed in Debian. Use dmm as a last resort; ask me about <dmm pinning> and <dmm remove>. |
| 11:22.08 | toad_ | !dmm remove |
| 11:22.09 | dpkg | If you want to remove the packages from deb-multimedia.org and reinstall the packages from Debian repositories, one could do this: dpkg --remove --force-depends $(aptitude search '?narrow(?version(CURRENT),?origin(Unofficial Multimedia Packages))' --disable-columns -F%p); remove the dmm repository from sources.list; apt-get update; apt-get install -f; install the still missing packages which were removed in the former process ... |
| 11:22.10 | SynrG | toad_: sorry if this seems like a hassle. i mean you no ill. it's just the reality of your situation. |
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| 11:22.58 | toad_ | I'd prefer to get rid of deb-multimedia, but it would mean downgrading mythtv and losing 1TB of recordings |
| 11:23.07 | SynrG | toad_: have you inspected the two debs? did you find the file it says differs actually differs? |
| 11:23.17 | toad_ | I wonder if upgrading to squeeze would give me a later version of myth? |
| 11:23.24 | SynrG | i rather suspect that overwriting the changelog will cause no harm |
| 11:23.37 | SynrG | surely you mean "upgrading to jessie" |
| 11:23.42 | SynrG | ,v mythtv |
| 11:23.42 | toad_ | yeah :) |
| 11:23.42 | judd | Package: mythtv on i386 -- squeeze-multimedia: 0.24.2-0.0squeeze1; wheezy-multimedia: 0.26.2-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 0.27.4+fixes20150314-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 0.27.4+fixes20150314-dmo1 |
| 11:23.52 | SynrG | as you can see, debian has no mythtv |
| 11:24.00 | toad_ | it used to |
| 11:24.01 | SynrG | it has only xbmc. |
| 11:24.02 | toad_ | for a long time |
| 11:24.12 | SynrG | well, we don't remove things from the archive lightly |
| 11:24.36 | toad_ | I don't understand judd's output, it lists versions...? |
| 11:25.09 | toad_ | you remove them if there's no maintainer. this is right and proper in a volunteer dependent OSS project. |
| 11:25.10 | SynrG | versions that are known to it of the package, and the suites it matches against. you'll see it also includes dmm versions, but these are not supported. |
| 11:25.21 | SynrG | for other reasons too. |
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| 11:25.45 | SynrG | if it fails the DFSG, and/or fails even the ability to include in contrib or non-free |
| 11:26.00 | carp_ | May I ask, I am tempted to install Trisquel instead of Debian but I am currently going with Debian because I am going on the idea that it probably has better support in general and for more hardware too. Debian or Trisquel, what say you? |
| 11:26.09 | toad_ | in other words it violates a few patents? seems unlikely given that you include xbmc |
| 11:26.32 | SynrG | patents? no. that's not the only reason for failing the DFSG |
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| 11:27.01 | toad_ | hmmmm... my other box *does* have volatile |
| 11:27.06 | toad_ | is volatile also unsupported? |
| 11:27.12 | SynrG | !mythtv |
| 11:27.12 | dpkg | MythTV is software to turn a Linux box into a complete multi-media entertainment recording and playback center supporting - given the right hardware - TV, movies, music, and more. Not in Debian (ITP filed as bug #570611); unofficial packages can be found in <deb-multimedia>. For tuner card information, ask me about <dvb>, <ivtv>, <bttv>. http://www.mythtv.org/ #mythtv-users on irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:27.16 | SynrG | maybe you want to go read that bug |
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| 11:27.33 | toad_ | !volatile |
| 11:27.33 | dpkg | Debian Volatile was a project aiming at keeping Debian releases up-to-date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. It was replaced by the <stable-updates> suite as of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze". http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2012/msg00000.html |
| 11:27.45 | toad_ | okay and stable-updates is official? |
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| 11:27.59 | SynrG | yes. everything carried by the debian archives is supported. |
| 11:28.36 | toad_ | then I have reproduced the bug on a supported system |
| 11:28.46 | SynrG | excellent. please file it |
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| 11:29.19 | SynrG | toad_: again, apologies it was a struggle to get to this point. but it is important to establish you have a *debian* bug |
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| 11:31.15 | SynrG | toad_: i have those two packages installed on my sid system, so clearly they *ought* to be co-installable. i don't understand why they're not in this case ... |
| 11:31.15 | SynrG | the changelog says: |
| 11:31.15 | SynrG | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:31.37 | SynrG | (for the original version, the one you would be upgrading from) |
| 11:32.36 | SynrG | that supposedly means it allows the users to coinstall them |
| 11:33.09 | SynrG | toad_: did you compare the changelog.Debian.gz from the two deb packages? |
| 11:33.22 | SynrG | toad_: i'm curious to see what the difference is, and that might be useful to attach to your report |
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| 11:36.58 | toad_ | SynrG: the bug explains progress in including mythtv, not why it was removed in the first place, i guess that was a long time ago |
| 11:37.22 | SynrG | yes. |
| 11:37.41 | SynrG | toad_: if it looks like there is *recent* progress on it (i did not read the bug) then maybe there is hope for the next release |
| 11:37.52 | toad_ | next but one you mean |
| 11:37.52 | SynrG | and therefore possibly also a backport for jessie. |
| 11:38.01 | toad_ | yes but backports is unsupported |
| 11:38.03 | SynrG | well, jessie's almost a done deal, yes :) |
| 11:38.09 | SynrG | that's untrue |
| 11:38.13 | SynrG | backports are supported |
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| 11:38.25 | toad_ | really? i thought it wasn't hosted by debian? |
| 11:38.28 | SynrG | backports received official support a long time ago |
| 11:38.35 | SynrG | and has been hosted by debian for multiple releases |
| 11:38.43 | SynrG | since ... squeeze i think? |
| 11:39.12 | toad_ | anyway the last update on including myth was january 2014 :( |
| 11:39.19 | toad_ | so the question is irrelevant :| |
| 11:39.20 | SynrG | sad |
| 11:39.28 | SynrG | well ... if you felt like helping .. |
| 11:39.43 | SynrG | as for myself, i just took the easy way and use xbmc |
| 11:39.46 | SynrG | am mostly happy with it |
| 11:40.12 | eject_ck | On jessie, I have Canon MF4320 with drivers installed. Trying use CUPS, it print one document and then nothing |
| 11:40.22 | eject_ck | second document not printing |
| 11:40.25 | toad_ | when i originally installed mythtv i don't think xbmc was anywhere near as advanced as it is now |
| 11:40.37 | toad_ | backward compatibility issues suck :( |
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| 11:41.35 | toad_ | why does the backports page have a newsfeed of regular security updates that ends in 2014? |
| 11:41.53 | eject_ck | status says Idle - "Sending data to printer." |
| 11:41.58 | toad_ | are you sure it's still supported? it looks like it lost security support around the end of 2014 |
| 11:42.07 | eject_ck | Canon MF4320-4350 ver.2.9 |
| 11:42.07 | eject_ck | Idle - "Sending data to printer." |
| 11:42.26 | toad_ | !backports |
| 11:42.27 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 11:42.48 | toad_ | !backport caveat |
| 11:42.48 | dpkg | Remember that in installing backports, you will be using an unusual configuration of packages that has not been tested as thoroughly as Debian stable and that newer packages have both newer features and newer bugs. Ask me about <version chasing>. Also note that you can't rely on backports to be patched quickly if vulnerabilities are discovered. |
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| 11:45.27 | SynrG | There is that. But an effort is made ... |
| 11:45.34 | SynrG | Is there a specific vulnerability you're worried about? |
| 11:46.35 | SynrG | Backports are, of course, much fewer than the whole archive so I'd expect proportionately fewer security uploads. |
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| 11:47.05 | toad_ | well that's why i'd like to get rid of deb-multimedia :| |
| 11:47.17 | toad_ | although of course it's managed with pinning |
| 11:48.16 | SynrG | That's good. But still there's a big, tangly chain of dependencies for any sufficiently complex package ... |
| 11:48.26 | toad_ | should just buy a discrete PVR ... nevermind that many of them have worse UIs than myth does ... |
| 11:48.39 | SynrG | And myth certainly qualifies as that |
| 11:48.47 | SynrG | Ugh |
| 11:48.52 | toad_ | and smaller disks, fewer tuners etc, and built in spyware |
| 11:49.17 | toad_ | yeah .... I can see why it would be hard to get myth back into debian after it's been removed :( |
| 11:49.17 | SynrG | I stopped being a myth user after all analog stations went off air |
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| 11:49.45 | SynrG | Rendering my old Hauppage pvr-250 as junk |
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| 11:50.20 | toad_ | thanks for your help anyway :) |
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| 11:50.33 | SynrG | np. Good luck! |
| 11:50.37 | toad_ | maybe I should just build myth from source ... at least i could avoid deb-multimedia then ... |
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| 11:51.04 | SynrG | If you succeed. Help the effort to get it into Debian |
| 11:51.30 | eject_ck | http://pastebin.com/YaLsnBci |
| 11:51.33 | toad_ | yeah package it myself :) |
| 11:51.38 | SynrG | Sorry. On cell. Spelling and punctuation suffers :) |
| 11:51.47 | SynrG | Yep. Fun for all |
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| 11:51.50 | toad_ | thanks anyway, bye |
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| 11:51.55 | SynrG | Later |
| 11:52.43 | SynrG | Hate printers :p |
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| 11:54.00 | eject_ck | I can print again only after power off/ power on printer |
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| 11:55.06 | SynrG | Does that even have a driver debian supports? |
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| 11:57.30 | SynrG | eject_ck: if that's the vendor's driver and not debian's it is not supported here |
| 11:57.35 | SynrG | http://forums.openprinting.org/list.php?25 |
| 11:57.44 | SynrG | Might find help there |
| 11:57.49 | SynrG | Dunno |
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| 12:04.04 | elcheckito | canvon: thanks for the dpkg -l tip :) |
| 12:04.18 | canvon | you're welcome :) |
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| 12:05.03 | elcheckito | canvon: i find "pattern" in the man page a bit confusing.. did not see a section that describes the rules for that "pattern" |
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| 12:05.24 | canvon | elcheckito: that would be glob style. dpkg -l '*foo*' |
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| 12:06.04 | elcheckito | canvon: ok, that makes sense. thank you again |
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| 13:10.37 | AbigailBuccaneer | Hi all. I'm looking to create a .deb package for some closed-source software (CLion). It bundles custom versions of utilities that also exist in the repositories (cmake and gdb). For various reasons it's often preferable to use these bundled versions than the ones from the repositories. |
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| 13:11.50 | AbigailBuccaneer | With the update-alternatives system, do all packages that provide a generic executable need to be set up to do so? Or can one package be update-alternatives aware and another package oblivious to it? |
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| 13:15.40 | AbigailBuccaneer | I think one possible solution would be to also provide clion-cmake and clion-gdb packages, each of which Provides, Conflicts and Replaces cmake and gdb respectively, Depends on clion, and just contains symlinks to the bundled versions. is that a sensible way to structure it? |
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| 13:21.51 | CoffeeJ | i have to admit alcohol is bad :P |
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| 13:24.29 | jelly | AbigailBuccaneer: you can't really use alternatives if one package uses it and other alternatives do not |
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| 13:25.24 | AbigailBuccaneer | yeah, that's what i was afraid of. i'm not familiar with its inner workings, i was hoping it'd handle moving binaries to the alternatives directory if you try and install something that's not alternatives-aware |
| 13:25.31 | jelly | AbigailBuccaneer: do your packages use the exact same paths for binaries as the system ones, eg. /usr/bin/gdb etc? |
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| 13:26.12 | AbigailBuccaneer | jelly, no - they're off in their own directory. but i was hoping to add symlinks from /usr/bin/gdb to the bundled version in order to use the bundled version as if it's the system version |
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| 13:27.04 | jelly | AbigailBuccaneer: if you really need to mess with /usr/bin, you'll probably have to use dpkg-divert |
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| 13:40.28 | pankid | I am getting an error when trying to update. I am not sure why libxrender is installed, as this is an owncloud server. Probably for libreoffice? http://paste.debian.net/166533/ |
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| 13:44.48 | AbigailBuccaneer | pankid, apt-cache rdepends packagename |
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| 14:05.06 | pankid | looks like I hit an already reported bug. http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314449.html |
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| 14:07.52 | pankid | fixed it by following that guys dpkg --force-overwrite command |
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| 14:10.40 | pankid | why does dpkg -l show packages that are not installed? |
| 14:11.14 | themill | pankid: it also shows packages that are removed bug not purged |
| 14:11.39 | pankid | themill: so those are not removed when I do an apt-get autoclean && apt-get autoremove? |
| 14:11.52 | themill | !purge |
| 14:11.52 | dpkg | "purge" means to completely wipe away a package, including its configuration files. Use «aptitude purge $package» or «dpkg -P $package» (note: before wheezy, you can't 'apt-get purge' a package that is already removed; use aptitude or dpkg instead). To purge all "removed" packages: «aptitude purge '~c'». To restore configuration files, ask me about <confmiss>. Also ask me about <why aptitude>. |
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| 14:13.10 | themill | pankid: the packages are removed but that purge step has not been run. removing and purging are two separate things and no, autoremove does not purge, it removes. (autoclean is irrelevant to this) |
| 14:13.36 | pankid | is there an alternative flag for dpkg I should be using that will only show installed packages? |
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| 14:14.59 | themill | pankid: what do you really want to know? "installed" is not as simple a concept as you believe. |
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| 14:15.58 | pankid | when a package is apt-get remove 'ed the binary is not there and cannot run, right? |
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| 14:16.26 | karlpinc | pankid: Yes (almost always). |
| 14:16.32 | pankid | I would consider that installed. The config files are a small ammount of disk space that I don't really care about. |
| 14:16.34 | themill | not all packages contain binaries or have things that run |
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| 14:17.00 | pankid | well, if I apt-get remove a libarary, that library cannot be used. |
| 14:17.02 | pankid | same thing |
| 14:17.03 | themill | the purge step also does other cleanup beyond config files |
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| 14:17.15 | pankid | so should I be using purge all the time? |
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| 14:17.30 | karlpinc | pankid: You might consider purging your configured packages. (depending on what you want.) |
| 14:17.52 | themill | Purging packages that you know you no longer need is a reasonable housekeeping thing to do. |
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| 14:18.10 | pankid | so I guess what my question is, how can I show all packages that are not removed by apt-get remove or apt-get purge |
| 14:18.12 | karlpinc | pankid: You can also use aptitude to do a bunch of searching (e.g. "aptitude search '~c'" finds packages removed but not purged. |
| 14:19.05 | karlpinc | pankid: Or you can (read the instructions in file://usr/share/doc/aptitude/) and figure out how to search for exactly what you want. Or use some other tool, perhaps piping to grep.) |
| 14:19.29 | themill | pankid: the list of packages that are fully installed is "aptitude search ~i" or "dpkg -l | grep ^.i"; note that installed is a "current state" that does not take account of pending actions either. |
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| 14:19.45 | pankid | ok, thanks guys |
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| 14:20.04 | pankid | I have always defaulted to using apt-get, should read up on aptitude |
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| 14:20.31 | karlpinc | pankid: There is a <why aptitude> factoid. I like aptitude, but opinions vary. |
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| 14:21.13 | karlpinc | (I also don't recall whether aptitude's "hold" is the same thing as apt-get's "hold" state, which would make using both of them potentially troublesome.) |
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| 14:22.03 | karlpinc | pankid: I hate the aptitude interface, in general, but like it's functionality. |
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| 14:22.23 | pankid | yeah, the curses thing is very confusing to me. |
| 14:22.37 | karlpinc | pankid: The command line search options etc suck too. |
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| 14:22.53 | karlpinc | (The syntax of it.) |
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| 14:24.00 | karlpinc | pankid: I only ever use the command line, except sometimes during major release upgrades where you need to look for obsolete packages and remove them. |
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| 14:25.04 | pankid | so when jessie becomes stable, will I have to change my repositories to stable rather than wheezy? How long will I be able to run wheezy? |
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| 14:25.46 | sydney_untangle | pankid: You will be able to run wheezy forever. |
| 14:26.00 | sydney_untangle | pankid: But it will be suported for about 3 more years. |
| 14:26.04 | pankid | ok, I need to phrase things better. |
| 14:26.04 | pankid | yeah |
| 14:26.05 | pankid | thanks |
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| 14:26.38 | sydney_untangle | To upgrade you will ahve to change all the references in sources.list that say "wheezy" to "jessie" |
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| 14:26.45 | sydney_untangle | Thats about it. |
| 14:26.55 | sydney_untangle | then apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 14:28.02 | mtn | pankid: if your sources say stable, you will get an auto-upgrade ;) |
| 14:28.08 | themill | no, don't do that |
| 14:28.08 | pankid | ok, thanks. I have never had a server pointed at a release go through a major version upgrade. Only my desktop that was pointed at sid for squeeze to wheezy |
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| 14:28.25 | themill | (btw it's s/3 years/1 year/) |
| 14:28.40 | sydney_untangle | themill: Hmm? |
| 14:28.57 | sydney_untangle | Isn't just about every debian release suported for 5 years? |
| 14:29.04 | sydney_untangle | squeeze has one year left. |
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| 14:29.25 | themill | no, squeeze support finished on 2014-05-31 |
| 14:29.40 | themill | stable releases are supported for a year after the next release comes out |
| 14:29.52 | sydney_untangle | Oh. |
| 14:29.59 | sydney_untangle | Ok. |
| 14:30.22 | sydney_untangle | a_ is in here too!? |
| 14:30.36 | themill | squeeze-lts is a separate effort that offers limited security support for some packages for some architectures for additional time |
| 14:30.40 | sydney_untangle | He is making a huge noise in one of our smaller channels. :P |
| 14:30.47 | sydney_untangle | Ok. |
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| 14:31.17 | sydney_untangle | Oh, your right. |
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| 14:31.22 | karlpinc | pankid: Usually there's a "one-liner" that lets you upgrade to the next relase, but it's always worth going through the release notes (I find) in case this happens to not work for you. Some releases require that you pay attention and the release notes let you know what to do. |
| 14:31.32 | sydney_untangle | lts will be till 2016. |
| 14:31.35 | jelly | if LTS project gets enough funding they may expand their support. They do plan to have wheezy-lts and keep doing squeeze-lts for the time being. |
| 14:31.50 | jelly | !squeeze-lts |
| 14:31.50 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
| 14:31.57 | ocZio | hi all, using wvdial with pppd (3G connection), what is a reliable way of reconnecting once the network drops ? I have "maxfail 0" for pppd configuration and "Auto Reconnect by default is On" for wvdial, but still no luck. |
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| 14:33.21 | ocZio | forgot to mention, I also have persist... |
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| 14:38.56 | watmm | Can someone recommend a tool to rather stats on incoming/outgoing traffic on an interface? I'm looking at a Munin graph telling me there was a surge on bits per second at a particular time, but when i look at the 'iptraf' tool for example, it contradicts Munin |
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| 14:43.22 | ocZio | watmm, iptraf is live data |
| 14:43.28 | ocZio | munin is historical |
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| 14:45.15 | watmm | ocZio: iptraf logs too |
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| 15:14.39 | smrtak | hello every1 :) |
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| 15:14.52 | CoffeeJ | hello you |
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| 15:15.48 | smrtak | sorry to bother, but I endup unable to install new packages. after broken update [https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314467.html] |
| 15:16.16 | smrtak | I found this report about it from today |
| 15:16.42 | CoffeeJ | link not working |
| 15:16.55 | smrtak | how can I identify and stop certaing packages to be marked for upgrade? |
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| 15:17.26 | smrtak | https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314441.html |
| 15:17.30 | CoffeeJ | theres a hold option with for example dselsect |
| 15:17.40 | CoffeeJ | *dselect |
| 15:17.48 | petn-randall | smrtak: There's also a hold option in aptitude. |
| 15:18.51 | smrtak | I'm trying to follow advice of Carlos Rodrigues which is in RE to the link above |
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| 15:19.20 | smrtak | thx for hint, will try to do it via those other utils |
| 15:19.35 | udevd | in Jessie there is no selinux-policy-default. What replaces this package? |
| 15:19.38 | smrtak | I thought it may be done with apt tools |
| 15:20.15 | petn-randall | smrtak: Those are all frontends to apt. |
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| 15:21.06 | rysiek|pl | well huki there |
| 15:21.09 | rysiek|pl | *hullo |
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| 15:23.05 | rysiek|pl | guys, is there an easy way to check if an certificate (that I have in a file) is expired or not? |
| 15:23.16 | rysiek|pl | I don't want to *see* the date, -enddate won't cut it |
| 15:23.35 | rysiek|pl | I need a yes/no 0/1 true/false answer, I need to use it in a script |
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| 15:26.59 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: SSL cert? |
| 15:27.08 | rysiek|pl | yeah |
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| 15:27.25 | abrotman | would think you'd want to warn when the cert is X number of days from expiring .. not actually expired |
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| 15:27.54 | rysiek|pl | abrotman: I have a bunch of certificate files, some of which are valid, some not |
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| 15:28.19 | rysiek|pl | abrotman: and that's in a bunch of directories witrh website data I am moving across servers |
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| 15:28.46 | rysiek|pl | abrotman: so I'm rsyncing the website data, and then I want to delete all certificates that are already expired |
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| 15:29.18 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: I can only think to convert them to epoch, and see if it's older than $now |
| 15:29.45 | rysiek|pl | abrotman: yeah, thought about that, thing is I don't see a sane way of doing this |
| 15:29.48 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: #openssl might have a better method |
| 15:29.54 | rysiek|pl | yeah, asking there too |
| 15:30.12 | udevd | so, has anyone configured selinux on jessie? |
| 15:30.19 | Engys | Hi, I got a aptitude collision under debian wheezy while updating libxrender1 it tells me that libxrender1:i386 is only partially installed and stops. I need libxrender1:i386 for Wine. Any suggestions? |
| 15:30.32 | rysiek|pl | abrotman: date command doesn't accept date input in the format openssl -enddate outputs it |
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| 15:31.00 | abrotman | what format does it output it in? |
| 15:31.20 | rysiek|pl | notAfter=Feb 10 11:47:24 2016 GMT |
| 15:31.42 | rysiek|pl | maybe I'm missing something, but "Feb 10 11:47:24 2016 GMT" is not accepted as a valid date by date command |
| 15:31.51 | rysiek|pl | hopes he's missing something |
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| 15:32.08 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: you can extract the fields you need .. date -d "Feb 10 2016" +%s |
| 15:32.19 | abrotman | I'm sure you can use a little awk to get what oyu need |
| 15:32.23 | mtn | Engys: does the error message give you any clues on how to fix the problem? |
| 15:32.26 | rysiek|pl | hmm |
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| 15:32.32 | teraflop | rysiek|pl: if you have the ca-bundle cert file you can do `openssl verify -CAfile ca-bundle.pem cert.crt` which returns `cert.crt: OK` |
| 15:32.41 | jelly | mmm? date -d'Feb 10 11:47:24 2016 GMT' worksforme |
| 15:32.51 | rysiek|pl | abrotman: but that would be... awk-ward wouldn't it ;) okay, will try this |
| 15:32.57 | AbigailBuccaneer | Engys, http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314449.html this was recently discussed in here |
| 15:33.00 | rysiek|pl | teraflop: I don't |
| 15:33.16 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: well, it may be awkward, but it's either that or hand-check them? |
| 15:33.28 | AbigailBuccaneer | Engys, <pankid> fixed it by following that guys dpkg --force-overwrite command |
| 15:33.39 | teraflop | rysiek|pl: then have fun doing awk :P |
| 15:33.59 | rysiek|pl | teraflop: -_-' |
| 15:34.07 | abrotman | rysiek|pl: it's really not that hard |
| 15:34.23 | abrotman | It's a nuisance, not difficult |
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| 15:34.36 | Engys | mtn, not really it only says error while processing libxrender1:i386 |
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| 15:34.58 | jelly | rysiek|pl: which debian release are you using? |
| 15:35.10 | rysiek|pl | jelly: jessie currently |
| 15:35.11 | Engys | AbigailBuccaneer, thanks I will throw an eye on this! =) |
| 15:35.23 | rysiek|pl | jelly: but I can move to any other, dockerizing everything here |
| 15:36.39 | jelly | rysiek|pl: date -d'Feb 10 11:47:24 2016 GMT' works on a jessie system of mine, too |
| 15:37.18 | rysiek|pl | jelly: you're right; I must have missed something obvious somewhere |
| 15:37.39 | rysiek|pl | that was a long day of banging my head against the wall with many issues |
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| 15:38.03 | rysiek|pl | jelly, abrotman: thanks for the reality check / rubber duck debugging session |
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| 15:40.25 | GoClick | How can I get the system to upgrade packages without bumping the minor version? So I’m using Foo 2.7.3 and Foo 2.7.4 is out but so is 2.8.3 and I know the 2.8 branch is massively incompatible with other software I’m using? |
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| 15:41.31 | moeyebus | Hello |
| 15:41.34 | jelly | GoClick: which packages do Foo 2.7.3 and 2.7.4 belong to? |
| 15:41.45 | moeyebus | I have a problem with the xrender1 package right now. |
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| 15:42.08 | GoClick | jelly: I don’t know what you mean |
| 15:42.10 | moeyebus | It seems it's stuck on it's current version |
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| 15:42.23 | moeyebus | (not xrender1, libxrender1) |
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| 15:42.33 | jelly | GoClick: how did you install "Foo 2.7.3" and what's the actual name and version? |
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| 15:43.38 | GoClick | A good example would be Django 1.7 and 1.8 or if tomorrow Apache 3 came out |
| 15:43.48 | smrtak | moeyebus: me too :) |
| 15:43.49 | GoClick | presumably apt-get install django ? |
| 15:44.07 | GoClick | python-django I dunno. This is a theoretical question |
| 15:44.30 | moeyebus | smrtak: Did you find anything about solving this? |
| 15:44.51 | moeyebus | I can't do anything until this is solved. |
| 15:45.03 | jelly | GoClick: ah. Debian does not introduce new major or minor versions of software during the lifetime of a release. The software only gets critical and security fixes and the version stays the same. |
| 15:45.06 | moeyebus | I mean : I can't uninstall, I can't update, I can't install packages. |
| 15:45.26 | sydney_untangle | jelly: +1 |
| 15:45.30 | sydney_untangle | good explenation. |
| 15:45.34 | smrtak | moeyebus: I'm stuck with the same issue as here: https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314441.html |
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| 15:45.53 | smrtak | also cannot remove, neither install :( |
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| 15:46.04 | GoClick | jelly: Many packages like to break things with minor numbers like Django 1.n is often painfully incopatible with Django 1.n-1 |
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| 15:46.55 | jelly | GoClick: that is not what we call "packages" in debian, that's upstream versions. |
| 15:47.34 | Engys | AbigailBuccaneer, thanks again dpkg --force-overwrite -i libxrender1_1%3a0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1_*.deb fixed my problem. |
| 15:47.37 | smrtak | moeyebus: now I see your post: (not xrender1, libxrender1), so it may not be the same |
| 15:47.43 | GoClick | Okay so how does one keep their system secure when an upstream releases a security update but has moved on to another minor that’s incompatible? |
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| 15:48.01 | babilen | dpkg: tell GoClick -about security backports |
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| 15:48.19 | jelly | GoClick: debian maintainer and/or the security team fixes the security issue in the old version. |
| 15:48.43 | moeyebus | smrtak: That's bad. Really bad.... |
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| 15:49.28 | smrtak | moeyebus: well, it may just be a sign for me to switch to obsd :) |
| 15:50.03 | smrtak | as #! stopped to be maintained for some time already |
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| 15:51.58 | smrtak | actually sorry guys, I should be bothering #!, not you here :) |
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| 15:54.54 | cap3lla | hey all. I am running Jessie and using Iceweasel. I have tried Adobe's original flashplayer plugin .so and also flash-nonfree package. I am not satisfied with them, as the one has a bad performance, and the other sometimes using 100% CPU time and slow-down my computer. I also tried shumway, but iceweasel is crashing when I test on Adobe's flash player check site. What else should I try? Gnash and lightspar |
| 15:55.00 | cap3lla | k doesn't seem to be in Jessie repo :( |
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| 15:56.10 | jelly | cap3lla: chromium + pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 15:56.26 | cap3lla | jelly: dont like chromium, want to stay at iceweasel |
| 15:56.34 | jelly | cap3lla: sucks to be you, then |
| 15:56.53 | cap3lla | anyone else? |
| 15:56.55 | jelly | do not use flash, then |
| 15:56.59 | teraflop | cap3lla: you want so many things, don't you? |
| 15:57.08 | cap3lla | teraflop: depends |
| 15:57.12 | jelly | cap3lla: not many other feasible options at the moment on Linux |
| 15:57.41 | cap3lla | manually installing gnash or lightspark somehow? anyone else have made experience with these plugins on iceweasel/jessie ? |
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| 15:58.03 | jelly | I wouldn't bother wasting time on those |
| 15:58.10 | mtn | cap3lla: iceweasel/firefox is only availble with old version of flash, chormium/chrome can use a newer version |
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| 15:58.51 | cap3lla | mtn: sure, pepperflash works fine on chromium, I know ... but my question really depends on iceweasel |
| 15:58.59 | sydney_untangle | cap3lla: iceweasel won't use pepperflash, and thats a bummer |
| 15:59.01 | mtn | cap3lla: and you have your answer |
| 15:59.18 | cap3lla | sydney_untangle: yes, unfortunately pepperflash is only for chrome/chromium |
| 15:59.23 | sydney_untangle | So, you are stuch with adobe-flash, or nothing. |
| 15:59.27 | mtn | at this time, anyway |
| 15:59.32 | cap3lla | I want to use FOSS |
| 15:59.36 | sydney_untangle | stuck* |
| 15:59.37 | cap3lla | that's all |
| 15:59.44 | jelly | cap3lla: then avoid flash like the plague |
| 15:59.44 | sydney_untangle | cap3lla: chromium is foss. |
| 15:59.53 | mtn | and flash is not ;) |
| 15:59.56 | sydney_untangle | google-chrome isn't. |
| 16:00.02 | sydney_untangle | an flash isn't :) |
| 16:00.14 | cap3lla | well, thanks to all |
| 16:00.37 | sydney_untangle | np. |
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| 16:00.51 | teraflop | cap3lla: also chromium is more secure than firefox/iceweasel |
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| 16:01.16 | sydney_untangle | Eh, i presonally prefer firefox/icewaesel, but chrome is faster, ido have to admit.' |
| 16:01.24 | GoClick | Can apt-get upgrade be rolled back? |
| 16:01.34 | jelly | GoClick: not really |
| 16:01.35 | cap3lla | teraflop: ok, maybe I give chromium a try. I always thought Chromium is Google stuff :( but as you guys say, the Chrome=Google and Chromium=FOSS that sounds more nice to me |
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| 16:02.23 | teraflop | cap3lla: well, try it and see ;) |
| 16:03.11 | babilen | You'd still require pepperflash from Google (it actually downloads google-chrome, extracts pepperflash and configured chromium to use it) |
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| 16:04.51 | cap3lla | jelly: sydney_untangle: mtn: teraflop: thank you guys, later ... |
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| 16:05.38 | cap3lla | babilen: I need to install "pepperflashplugin-nonfree" package and afterwards run "update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree --install", right? |
| 16:05.38 | teraflop | cap3lla: np |
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| 16:06.01 | cap3lla | babilen: yeah, flash is running according the result of adobe flash check site |
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| 16:06.32 | cap3lla | ok, will look around Chromium now... my first impression ==> much faster than Iceweasel is on my Debian Jessie |
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| 16:11.34 | Roberth1990 | yeah chromium is much faster than iceweasel for me too |
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| 16:12.18 | c-101 | Hello there |
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| 16:13.02 | c-101 | i am trying to rebuild from source openvpn, but after the .deb package is generated, dpkg fails to install because it says that libc6_amd64 is not installed (which actually is) |
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| 16:13.10 | c-101 | Any clue on how to solve this ? |
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| 16:13.32 | bumbar_ | how can i make ulimit -c (core file size) permanent? |
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| 16:13.57 | c-101 | odly, if i install from the repository (apt-get install openvpn) it installs flawlessly, and the dependency to libc6-amd64 is also there |
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| 16:14.29 | teraflop | c-101: libc6_amd64 vs libc6-amd64? |
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| 16:14.56 | petn-randall | c-101: If you show us the error message, we might be able to help. → http://paste.debian.net |
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| 16:16.33 | c-101 | that's what i get when i try to use dpkg -i openvpn..... http://paste.debian.net/166552/ |
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| 16:22.00 | petn-randall | c-101: Oh, you're running sid. Off to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net with you, where jessie/sid are supported. :) |
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| 16:22.38 | c-101 | aha |
| 16:22.40 | c-101 | thanks |
| 16:22.55 | c-101 | it's under +i |
| 16:22.57 | c-101 | :/ |
| 16:23.12 | petn-randall | c-101: irc.oftc.net, you're currently on freenode. |
| 16:23.30 | c-101 | aaah, sorry, you're right |
| 16:23.32 | c-101 | :) |
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| 16:42.36 | cdb23ax | hello, i bought a ssl wildcard certificate for my apache webserver |
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| 16:43.38 | cdb23ax | they sent me 2 files 1 textfile and 1 intermediate pem file |
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| 16:44.41 | smrtak | moeyebus: still around? |
| 16:45.42 | cdb23ax | in their howto they require 3 files |
| 16:45.49 | cdb23ax | but i only have 2 |
| 16:45.51 | smrtak | moeyebus: I you similar issue as I did: http://pastebin.com/fJt0PnXC I know how to fix it ;) |
| 16:46.18 | cdb23ax | SSLCertificateFile, SSLCertificateKeyFile and SSLCACertificateFile |
| 16:46.26 | smrtak | ^* if you have |
| 16:47.02 | ctmjr | cdb23ax: so contact them and tell em |
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| 16:54.13 | ola | cdb23ax: it is not unheard of to have the full public chain in one file. Does one of the two files contain more than one cert? |
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| 16:54.53 | cdb23ax | y |
| 16:55.12 | cdb23ax | the intermediate cert file contains two |
| 16:55.36 | jelly | cdb23ax: also, if you generated a .crt yourself, you already have the private key |
| 16:55.47 | jelly | generated a CSR sorry |
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| 16:58.14 | charliegreen | Cheers! My aptitude isn't happy, and I was wondering if you folks could help me out? Thanks! |
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| 16:59.04 | mtn | !ask |
| 16:59.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:59.46 | charliegreen | Sorry, I was putting the rest of the question in a pastebin, but it's taking longer than I expected |
| 16:59.55 | charliegreen | thanks, though! |
| 17:00.01 | lroe | anyone have any good recommendations for the best way to share a stream from an ip camera? |
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| 17:03.16 | woffs | I suffer from that libxrender1 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1 bug, it breaks my automated company network installation. I tried to blacklist that version via /etc/apt/preferences, but it didn't work with Package: libxrender1 libxrender1:i386 Pin: version 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1 Pin-Priority: -5. How to solve this? |
| 17:03.53 | charliegreen | ..oh, hey, that's what I was just about to ask about |
| 17:03.53 | charliegreen | http://pastebin.com/nPPiTmNJ |
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| 17:05.26 | woffs | and i don't want to do hack dpkg --force-overwrite into the middle of an automated installation |
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| 17:08.30 | ctmjr | lroe: vlc |
| 17:08.54 | jelly | woffs: then wait until #782505 gets fixed? |
| 17:08.55 | woffs | seems i have to Pin the 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1 Version to Pin-Priority: 1002 |
| 17:09.00 | pankid | man, libxrender1 is getting everyone huh. |
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| 17:09.02 | woffs | yes, or wait. |
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| 17:09.11 | jelly | ,bug 782507 |
| 17:09.12 | judd | Sorry, the requested bug was not found. |
| 17:09.21 | jelly | ,bug 782505 |
| 17:09.22 | judd | Sorry, the requested bug was not found. |
| 17:09.29 | jelly | judd: screw you, hippie! |
| 17:09.33 | pankid | I asked about it earlier, but found a mailing list with a temporary fix until it gets sorted out |
| 17:09.36 | charliegreen | has this been helping anyone with libxrender1? https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314467.html |
| 17:09.52 | pankid | http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314449.html |
| 17:11.05 | pankid | charliegreen: I ran into the libxrender1 issue and followed the instructions on the mailing list I posted. I did not try the fix you just posted. |
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| 17:12.54 | charliegreen | pankid: thanks! Did you run into any problems after doing that, or did that resolve it? |
| 17:13.01 | pankid | woffs: is dpkg --force-overwrite not a good idea? |
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| 17:13.06 | charliegreen | I'm just a wee bit scared of that --force-overwrite.. |
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| 17:13.33 | pankid | charliegreen: it resolved it just fine for me. I probably should have taken a snapshot before doing it though. |
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| 17:14.10 | jelly | charliegreen: heh, and I thought --force-overwrite looked cleaner than a --path-exclude |
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| 17:15.06 | charliegreen | Maybe I just don't understand what's going on here, and that's why this scares me |
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| 17:15.56 | charliegreen | Is the issue just that there are two libxrender1 packages that conflict but won't nicely remove each other upon installation? |
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| 17:16.34 | charliegreen | jelly: I think it actually might be, but it's still kinda scary o.O |
| 17:16.40 | woffs | they try to put the same file, conflicting |
| 17:16.59 | woffs | so --force-overwrite is the best ad-hoc solution in that case |
| 17:17.14 | woffs | (if you are doing it by hand) |
| 17:17.18 | charliegreen | mmk |
| 17:17.28 | charliegreen | I'll do the --force-overwrite and tell you how it goes |
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| 17:18.16 | woffs | pankid: not for the automated installation |
| 17:18.35 | charliegreen | ..and now life is all flowers and rainbows |
| 17:18.38 | charliegreen | Thank you! |
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| 17:18.58 | pankid | charliegreen: :) |
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| 17:19.49 | jelly | charliegreen: it's not scary if you understand why you're using it and know exactly which files will be affected |
| 17:19.54 | charliegreen | I do wonder, though, if there will be any future issues with having libxrender1:i386 and libxrender1:amd64 installed side by side |
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| 17:20.05 | jelly | but otherwise yes, --force-stuff is meant to be scary |
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| 17:20.38 | charliegreen | jelly: well, the issue is I don't :P I'm glad there are people here who can help with stuff and know what's going on! |
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| 17:20.52 | pankid | charliegreen: I removed libxrender after I got it working. I didnt really need it. I think it was installed for libreoffice for owncloud. |
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| 17:21.02 | parabool | hi |
| 17:21.22 | charliegreen | but yeah, basically everything seems resolved now! |
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| 17:21.36 | smrtak | have a nice evening |
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| 17:22.12 | charliegreen | pankid: I just did aptitude remove libxrender1 and it gave me a list of over 200 package modifications, so I think I might need it xD |
| 17:22.41 | charliegreen | parabool: welcome! |
| 17:22.45 | pankid | is it a desktop or server? |
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| 17:23.14 | charliegreen | desktop |
| 17:23.36 | charliegreen | yeah, on my server the libxrender thing wasn't a problem |
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| 17:23.49 | parabool | i would like to install debian testing. i downloaded the netinstall jessie rc2 amd64 ; after choosing hostname, i get to choose a domain name. i tried several, .be and also leaving it blank, the install freezes. is the installer broken? should i run the debian 7.8 stable installer, then change the sources.list and do a dist-upgrade ? i didnt try that at first, because i broke my system doing that. i'm running wheezy now. changing sources.list to |
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| 17:25.33 | karlpinc | parabool: I'm sure installing a minimal wheezy and upgrading would work. But, you might try #debian-next. They are the people doing the jessie installer. |
| 17:25.35 | Latrina | parabool, I have just installed the amd64 version on Hyper-V and did not experience such a issue |
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| 17:26.00 | parabool | karlpinc: Latrina thank you :) |
| 17:26.11 | karlpinc | parabool: If you've more than a minimal wheezy installed you might be best served by following the upgrade instructions in the release notes. |
| 17:26.14 | Latrina | no probe . |
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| 17:27.08 | parabool | karlpinc: i followed the release instructions, but my install got broken. that's why i tried a fresh install :-) maybe i followed the wrong notes, which one do you mean? |
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| 17:27.28 | parabool | can't join #debian-next btw, invite only |
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| 17:27.39 | karlpinc | parabool: All the domain name should be used for is to expand unqualifed hostnames. So, if you put in "foo" it will look up "foo.example.com". |
| 17:27.59 | zykotick9 | parabool: #debian-next is on oftc, not freenode |
| 17:28.03 | towo` | parabool, #debian-next is on another network |
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| 17:28.18 | karlpinc | (oops. Sorry, poor advice there.) |
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| 17:29.22 | karlpinc | parabool: I'm not talking about the install instructions. I'm talking about the upgrade instructions. (The ones from squeeze to wheezy are found on debian.org home page. Dunno exactly where the wheezy->jessie upgrade notes are right now.) |
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| 17:36.21 | canvon | karlpinc: they're there, but all marked up as "draft". you have to guess the URL: https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes |
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| 17:38.28 | woffs | the workaround for my network install via preferences: http://lpaste.net/130650 #782505 |
| 17:39.08 | woffs | I learned that the order of the entries matters :-/ |
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| 17:44.46 | nmschulte | # hdparm -I /dev/sda -- Logical Sector size: 512 bytes -- Physical Sector size: 4096 bytes -- -- This is bad, right? |
| 17:45.19 | jelly | nmschulte: no, most recent SATA devices are like that |
| 17:45.21 | nmschulte | As well, my new SSD (Samsung 850 EVO) is reporting a 512 b logical and physical sector size. This doesn't seem right to me... |
| 17:45.44 | jelly | (those with spinning metal platters) |
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| 17:46.07 | nmschulte | jelly: doesn't that mean that (for /dev/sda) that my file system is incurring overhead when it access any block? |
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| 17:46.32 | jelly | nmschulte: only if its beginning is misaligned |
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| 17:46.33 | nmschulte | it's going to have to transfer 4x the 512 size, for read, and for write... it has to write whole blocks as well, right? |
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| 17:46.51 | frostschutz | nmschulte, most filesystems use 4k in any case |
| 17:46.57 | nmschulte | I'm accessing it on a logical size that is smaller than the physical size; doens't that incurr a performance penalty? |
| 17:47.03 | jelly | nope |
| 17:47.06 | nmschulte | hmm.. |
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| 17:47.12 | nmschulte | I don't believe you. |
| 17:47.15 | nmschulte | :) |
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| 17:47.25 | jelly | what did you say |
| 17:47.28 | nmschulte | :P |
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| 17:47.43 | frostschutz | whoa, jelly's going turbo |
| 17:47.57 | nmschulte | So, I have swap space on that 512/4096. There's no FS there. |
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| 17:48.40 | jelly | nmschulte: it's a good thing swap is accessed in page-sized units, and pages are 4096B on i386 linux, or more |
| 17:48.53 | nmschulte | it is good indeed |
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| 17:49.06 | nmschulte | so my thinking isn't wrong, I'm just all sorts of lucky. |
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| 17:49.31 | jelly | you're not lucky. HDD vendors have chosen this sector size for reasons. |
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| 17:49.48 | nmschulte | Sure, I should have partitioned it with 4096 sector size too. |
| 17:49.53 | nmschulte | then it wouldn't be luck. |
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| 17:50.01 | nmschulte | then it would be right |
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| 17:50.30 | jelly | nmschulte: you can't choose the exposed logical sector size [*] |
| 17:50.31 | nmschulte | As long as my ext4 FS are using 4k blocks, then I'm good (and as you say they do by default); same for swap. |
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| 17:50.47 | nmschulte | oh. |
| 17:51.01 | jelly | [*] except on some very recent devices, usually enterprisey ones |
| 17:51.05 | frostschutz | nmschulte, partition alignment is important, so that's what you should check. everything uses MiB-alignment nowadays |
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| 17:51.31 | canvon | even on MBR-based partitioning? |
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| 17:51.56 | nmschulte | My EFI file system is using 512 b sectors. |
| 17:52.02 | nmschulte | :D |
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| 17:52.16 | nmschulte | s/sectors/block size/ |
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| 17:53.21 | jelly | canvon: starting with MS Vista, MS aligns partitions on 1MiB, including DOS MBR format ones. Linux tools followed that practice soon after. |
| 17:53.38 | jelly | !4kib |
| 17:53.44 | jelly | !4kb |
| 17:53.44 | dpkg | Modern (S)ATA drives have 4k sectors, which when not accounted for, can cause performance problems. See https://ata.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/ATA_4_KiB_sector_issues , http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-4kb-sector-disks/ and http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/01/msg02021.html for more information. |
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| 17:56.08 | nmschulte | thanks jelly |
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| 18:01.46 | mo1991reg | libxrender1 : Breaks: libxrender1:i386 |
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| 18:02.08 | mo1991reg | upgrade errors from today on wheezy???? Very strange as I never have update errors on wheezy |
| 18:02.15 | mo1991reg | should I force install |
| 18:02.33 | nmschulte | mo1991reg: I wonder if libxrender1:i386 is the wrong version and just hasn't yet hit the archive? |
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| 18:03.55 | mo1991reg | seems to be a version issue yes. |
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| 18:04.12 | mo1991reg | (!= 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1) but 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1 is installed |
| 18:04.18 | mtn | mo1991reg: http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-dist@lists.debian.org/msg1314449.html |
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| 18:04.39 | mo1991reg | libxrender-dev : Depends: libxrender1 (= 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1+b1) but 1:0.9.7-1+deb7u1 is installed |
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| 18:05.31 | mo1991reg | mtn - should I wait a day first?? I can't remember the last time there was an error like this for wheezy, but seems typically these are fixed very quickly. |
| 18:05.56 | mtn | mo1991reg: yes, things are usually fixed quickly. I would wait if you can |
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| 18:07.27 | Akuw | is secure to use mod_rewrite? |
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| 18:08.51 | jelly | Akuw: sure, if you know how to configure it |
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| 18:45.45 | nmschulte | Is using UEFI Secure Boot with Linux a thing? Is there any reason to consider doing so?> |
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| 18:46.39 | MrDetonia | Hi all. I want to be able to direct input to Skype using JACK, but Skype only lets me select PulseAudio as the sound driver for everything. Is there a way I can get JACK to send input to PulseAudio, or have PulseAudio direct I/O to JACK? |
| 18:46.51 | MrDetonia | s/or/and |
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| 18:47.43 | nmschulte | MrDetonia: I know it's possible. |
| 18:47.49 | nmschulte | PulseAudio can sink/source to ALSA |
| 18:47.52 | nmschulte | and ALSA can to JACK |
| 18:48.07 | nmschulte | but a better option would be PA <-> JACK, as you suggest. |
| 18:48.14 | nmschulte | that's all I know. good luck! |
| 18:48.29 | MrDetonia | nmschulte, I know very little about pulseaudio, I'm only using it now because I'm using Cinnamon DE which depends on it for some reason |
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| 18:48.52 | MrDetonia | Do you know how I can configure PA's sink/sourcing? |
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| 18:49.08 | nmschulte | MrDetonia: pavucontrol is the only interface I use to pulse audio |
| 18:49.14 | nmschulte | I don't know much about it. |
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| 18:49.18 | nmschulte | Sorry, :/ |
| 18:49.23 | MrDetonia | okay, thanks for the info anyway :) |
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| 18:51.54 | teraflop | MrDetonia: there is a module-jackdbus-detect and it seems to work with jack2 if compiled with dbus support |
| 18:52.19 | MrDetonia | teraflop, I'm using the version of jack2 straight from the Debian Testing repos |
| 18:52.41 | MrDetonia | do I enable that in /etc/pulse/default.pa ? |
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| 18:54.07 | teraflop | MrDetonia: then I do not know since I only use debian for servers, but yes i think it deserves a try, yes just load in the default.pa |
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| 18:54.51 | teraflop | MrDetonia: just `load-module module-jackdbus-detect` |
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| 18:55.07 | MrDetonia | teraflop, tried and pulseaudio failed to restart |
| 18:55.13 | MrDetonia | I assume I don't have that mosule compiled |
| 18:55.18 | MrDetonia | *module |
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| 18:55.40 | teraflop | may be |
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| 19:07.31 | MrDetonia | For those interested: I've come across an application by KXStudio called Cadence which provides a good frontend for JACK. It promises to provide a bridge between pulseaudio and jack. Will update if it works or not. |
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| 19:09.55 | MrDetonia | ^UPDATE: Yes! It actually works. Provides a direct bridge between pulseaudio and jack. |
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| 19:11.35 | Mousey | MrDetonia++ |
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| 19:12.55 | jhutchins | Hey, that's what we need, another layer! |
| 19:13.06 | teraflop | xD |
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| 19:14.32 | MrDetonia | lol, yeah it's a stupid workaround :P |
| 19:14.53 | MrDetonia | ALSA just works, but apparently I'm using pulseaudio now without an option to remove it :/ |
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| 19:15.51 | teraflop | MrDetonia: may I ask why do you need jack, not just pulseaudio? |
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| 19:16.42 | MrDetonia | teraflop, I do a lot of audio/music production, so I find myself using it a lot. But I also use skype a lot. I'd like to run them alongside each other, and route my mic to both which I can do with jack |
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| 19:17.03 | teraflop | MrDetonia: I see |
| 19:17.10 | nmschulte | Does my EFI System Partition (ESP) have to be formatted with FAT? |
| 19:17.39 | lroe | I'm trying to configure ssh keys so that only a single command can be run but so that it allows for command-line arguments. It seems like $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND will help me, but I'm having trouble implementing this |
| 19:18.01 | teraflop | nmschulte: yes, unless your are doing weird stuf with osx efi |
| 19:18.12 | teraflop | youre* |
| 19:18.13 | nmschulte | no sir, no Apples for me. |
| 19:18.29 | lroe | command="/usr/local/foo $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND" ssh-rsa.....key.... doesn't actually pass the arguments |
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| 19:19.37 | greycat | SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND is really, really horrible. |
| 19:19.45 | lroe | greycat, I'm open to alternatives |
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| 19:24.10 | richied | hey guys how can you find all the files for apache2 |
| 19:24.11 | nmschulte | with mkfs.fat, what does the "-S logical-sector-size" option actually do? |
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| 19:24.39 | nmschulte | "specify the number of bytes per logical sector" -- I can't actually change what my disk uses for this... so what does this option affect? |
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| 19:25.13 | greycat | lroe: well, you need to set command="/some/shell/script" in the authorized_keys file. Then in that shell script, you can break the SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND variable into words, discard the first word, and supply the rest as arguments? |
| 19:25.44 | greycat | If you *only* permit one command, and do not eval the contents of SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND, you might be OK. |
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| 19:26.06 | lroe | all of that is true |
| 19:26.50 | lroe | so I need to write a helper script that parses $SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND and then runs the script |
| 19:26.53 | lroe | ? |
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| 19:27.53 | greycat | Bear in mind, any arguments with internal whitespace will be split by ssh unless you add an extra layer of quoting. |
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| 19:28.20 | greycat | http://wooledge.org/~greg/foo # sample |
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| 19:28.56 | nmschulte | frostschutz: we meet again.. https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=189410 |
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| 19:57.18 | udevd | in every laptop I had debian on there were problems with wifi connectivity |
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| 19:57.25 | udevd | connection was unstable, often lost |
| 19:57.28 | Mousey | sounds like bad luck |
| 19:57.31 | udevd | now I have thinkpad x201 |
| 19:57.35 | udevd | and want to have it done right |
| 19:57.39 | udevd | what should I look for? |
| 19:57.50 | udevd | it is 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8191SEvB Wireless LAN Controller (rev 10) |
| 19:57.52 | Mousey | firmware-iwlwifisomethigsomething |
| 19:57.54 | Mousey | oh |
| 19:57.55 | Mousey | realtek |
| 19:58.17 | udevd | yes, and there is rtl8192se module loaded |
| 19:58.27 | Mousey | apt-get install firmware-realtek |
| 19:58.40 | udevd | yes, I have it |
| 19:58.44 | Mousey | you're gold! |
| 19:58.50 | udevd | without it there was no wifi avalaible at all |
| 19:58.53 | Mousey | right |
| 19:59.08 | Mousey | the driver loads, but the firmware needs to be uploaded to the card so the driver can talk with the hardware |
| 19:59.08 | udevd | but the connection is unstable very often |
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| 19:59.28 | Mousey | especially if you have this issues with multiple machines, its possible it's not the machine(s) |
| 19:59.29 | udevd | reloading the module fixes it for a while |
| 19:59.31 | udevd | but I don't know why |
| 19:59.40 | Mousey | i have a x220, and no issues |
| 19:59.50 | Mousey | actually, i run debian exclusively on notebooks of all sorts |
| 19:59.51 | udevd | ;_; |
| 19:59.53 | Mousey | and haven't had issues |
| 19:59.56 | Mousey | so hmmz0rz |
| 20:00.18 | Mousey | are there entries in your /var/log/syslog when your wifi drops? |
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| 20:00.24 | Mousey | therein would lie clues |
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| 20:01.27 | udevd | well I need to wait for it |
| 20:01.32 | udevd | :P |
| 20:01.38 | Mousey | that's one way =P |
| 20:02.01 | Mousey | you can grep for realtek-related messages too |
| 20:02.08 | udevd | i remember I saw something on dmesg |
| 20:02.18 | Mousey | you want /var/log/syslog, not dmesg |
| 20:02.31 | Mousey | syslog will have dmesg's messages, and timestamps |
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| 20:03.38 | udevd | from all 413456 lines of syslog there is no single mention of `realtek' |
| 20:04.04 | danobi | I also have a x201 and my wifi used to drop intermittently |
| 20:04.05 | udevd | well, most of it is filled with errors from pulseaudio |
| 20:04.09 | danobi | Recently it stopped, though |
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| 20:04.14 | Mousey | that's weird by itself |
| 20:04.15 | Mousey | but |
| 20:04.27 | Mousey | its possible you want to grep for something like 8191 instead |
| 20:04.31 | udevd | i have badly configured RTP |
| 20:04.40 | udevd | yes, if it were something like this :P |
| 20:04.44 | udevd | was* |
| 20:04.54 | udevd | oh |
| 20:05.00 | udevd | there is something under `rtl' tho |
| 20:05.12 | Mousey | nods sagely |
| 20:05.37 | udevd | no errors though |
| 20:05.53 | Mousey | thats a good sign |
| 20:06.01 | udevd | there are things like that |
| 20:06.01 | udevd | http://lpaste.net/7193717539560488960 |
| 20:06.06 | udevd | repeated every few hours |
| 20:06.15 | Ironhand | hello, is there a way to set up a Debian system to take advantage of IPv6 autoconfiguration, but not give away its MAC address? maybe a way to base the IPv6 address suffix on a configured value rather than on the MAC address? (I realize this is technically not fully "auto"configuration anymore) |
| 20:06.29 | Mousey | udevd: that looks pretty normal |
| 20:06.32 | udevd | (probably when I remove the module and bring it back) |
| 20:07.00 | Mousey | udevd: how many APs have you tried this notebook with? |
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| 20:07.29 | udevd | Mousey: a lot, really |
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| 20:07.36 | udevd | the only stable connections are on open |
| 20:07.37 | udevd | aps |
| 20:07.42 | Mousey | ooh? |
| 20:07.44 | Dagger2 | Ironhand: you can turn on temporary addresses for outbound connections, but for inbound ones you'll have to put the SLAAC address in DNS (or update the record constantly to handle the changing temporary addresses) |
| 20:08.06 | Dagger2 | Ironhand: I think there's also `ip token` for doing exactly what you asked for, but that's not in wheezy yet |
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| 20:08.47 | udevd | https://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Drivers found something like this |
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| 20:08.52 | basic6_ | i cannot upload a bunch of files to my vsftpd, some files will go through but at some point the upload fails, how could i debug this? |
| 20:08.56 | udevd | > Supports PCI-E devices based on the RTL8191SE and RTL8192SE chips. |
| 20:09.02 | udevd | (rtl8192se) |
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| 20:09.53 | Ironhand | Dagger: thanks, I'll have a look at that... and Jessie is around the corner anyway, looks like it's in that |
| 20:10.01 | udevd | danobi: give me your lspci |
| 20:10.11 | udevd | I want to know whether we have the same card |
| 20:10.35 | danobi | Putting it on pastebin now |
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| 20:10.56 | danobi | http://pastebin.com/aQZKDdWE |
| 20:11.29 | udevd | Mousey: I had some clue it might have something to do with energy saving profiles |
| 20:11.45 | udevd | danobi: yeah, we have the same card |
| 20:11.46 | Mousey | thats possible. |
| 20:12.00 | danobi | I used to have to do a system reboot to fix the issue. A systemctl restart for network manager worked sometimes |
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| 20:12.04 | Mousey | does it tend to drop when you're idling or watching tv or using synergy or something? |
| 20:12.28 | jhutchins | udevd: Have you looked at dmesg | less and searched for relevant terms like realtek? |
| 20:12.46 | jhutchins | udevd: You'll find much more useful information there than the syslog. |
| 20:13.30 | Mousey | maintains that syslog captures dmesg traffic+timestamps |
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| 20:13.34 | udevd | there are only |
| 20:13.35 | udevd | Loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin |
| 20:13.35 | udevd | [87991.601117] rtl8192se 0000:02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8192sefw.bin |
| 20:13.38 | udevd | [87991.601520] ieee80211 phy49: Selected rate control algorithm 'rtl_rc' |
| 20:13.38 | udevd | things like that |
| 20:13.46 | udevd | repeated where I reload the module |
| 20:14.54 | udevd | also the connection becomes good again when I suspend-to-ram the laptop (by closing the lid) and wake it |
| 20:15.29 | Mousey | or by toggling the killswitch, i bet |
| 20:15.43 | udevd | yup |
| 20:16.25 | Mousey | modinfo i don't see a debug switch on that kernel module |
| 20:16.32 | Mousey | but if there's a way to trn it on, that might help too |
| 20:16.37 | udevd | http://nerdmaennchen.de/2012/06/23/solved-instabiles-wlan-mit-realteks-rtl8191sevb/ |
| 20:16.43 | udevd | old site tells me |
| 20:16.45 | udevd | to install wicd |
| 20:16.53 | Mousey | ugh, that shouldn't matter |
| 20:16.55 | Mousey | that's userland |
| 20:17.06 | udevd | it shouldn't, right |
| 20:17.41 | udevd | but his anecdotal evidence says so :P |
| 20:17.55 | Mousey | the internet never lies! |
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| 20:18.14 | udevd | hm I will try to build the driver from Realtek |
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| 20:18.30 | udevd | I don't know if it is any different from standard debian though |
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| 20:19.48 | udevd | okay |
| 20:19.55 | udevd | now I've lost the connection |
| 20:19.57 | udevd | and dmesg |
| 20:19.59 | udevd | simply says |
| 20:20.00 | udevd | [87992.732743] wlan0: associated |
| 20:20.00 | udevd | [87992.732784] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready |
| 20:20.02 | udevd | [88976.342025] wlan0: Connection to AP f4:ec:38:d8:ee:02 lost |
| 20:20.13 | udevd | and then authentication |
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| 20:21.19 | danobi | I'm not an expert on this, but have you considered the issue may be network related? |
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| 20:21.31 | danobi | ie. not on your end |
| 20:22.00 | udevd | no, it happens also on reliable networks |
| 20:22.03 | udevd | like, eduroam |
| 20:22.12 | udevd | in 4 different universities |
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| 20:23.14 | lisco | I'm happy to say the mouse woes that accompany a thinkpad x1 gen3 have been resolved in linux kernel 4.0.0 |
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| 20:23.31 | udevd | old posts from 2011 say that ndiswrapper works... |
| 20:23.31 | lisco | I can finally turn of the touchpad :) |
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| 20:24.30 | udevd | Mousey: there's something else odd |
| 20:24.43 | udevd | when I reload the kernel module rtl8192se |
| 20:24.53 | udevd | and try reloading once again in a short time |
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| 20:24.59 | udevd | I often get kernel panic |
| 20:26.40 | Mousey | D: |
| 20:26.52 | Mousey | that's a terrible thing |
| 20:26.55 | udevd | short time ~=1-2 seconds |
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| 20:43.39 | ahop | Is /var/www the default apache folder? |
| 20:43.49 | ahop | It's this ^^ on Ubuntu, but Debian? |
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| 20:45.33 | ahop | I have a Debian, but not the default config anymore, so i don't remember |
| 20:45.48 | ahop | Seems to be /var/www for the default dir, is it true? |
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| 20:48.01 | srg | /var/www is what I use. |
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| 20:49.49 | teraflop | ahop: you can use whatever you want but since you said "I have a Debian, but not the default config anymore," i do not understand your question |
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| 20:50.39 | udevd | Mousey: https://ask.fedoraproject.org/en/question/9869/realtek-wireless-rtl8191sevb-on-fedora-15-and-16/ |
| 20:50.42 | halt | Hi all, I have a general question about releases, i read already the when it's ready, but also something baout major version freeze, so my question is simple will the jessie get the new 4.0 kernel version with the rebootless update or I'm asking for too much ? |
| 20:50.51 | udevd | interesting |
| 20:51.12 | greycat | jessie comes with Linux 3.16 by default |
| 20:51.19 | srg | halt: Jessie is already frozen and will be released very soon. No more major changes will be done. |
| 20:51.29 | udevd | http://askubuntu.com/questions/23085/wireless-driver-for-hcl-me-realtek-rtl8191sevb or, perhaps |
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| 20:52.42 | Tytan | Is there an official release date for Debian Jessie? |
| 20:53.07 | srg | Tytan: yes |
| 20:53.14 | halt | srg: OK thanks I thought so but i hoped anyway, it will still rocks with the systemd and all the new major versions ( and at the same time it will be a pain in the ass for who does not like the cahnges :)) |
| 20:53.24 | Tytan | srg, Please tell me :) |
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| 20:54.12 | halt | Tytan: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianJessie |
| 20:54.34 | jhutchins | halt: It's possible that the 4.x kernel will be backported to jessie if the changes aren't too big (or if they are). |
| 20:54.59 | srg | Tytan: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html |
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| 20:56.11 | halt | jhutchins: well I would not thinks so, at least up the level but .. to actually use this non restart function is not that simple if I'm right |
| 20:56.36 | Tytan | So will it support a nVidia GT 730 out of the box? |
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| 20:59.24 | ahop | thanks srg |
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| 20:59.53 | ahop | teraflop I meant, what was the defualt dir again, I ddidn't remember |
| 20:59.54 | ahop | teraflop but I found: it's /var/www |
| 21:00.23 | teraflop | /var/www |
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| 21:03.42 | SixtyFold | anyone else having issues with libxrender1 causing things to break with wine? |
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| 21:04.43 | somiaj | That is a vague and not a good question. If there is a bug and others are experiencing it, you can find it on the BTS. |
| 21:05.33 | SixtyFold | somiaj: what's BTS? |
| 21:05.41 | greycat | !bts |
| 21:05.42 | dpkg | Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber . aptitude install reportbug, and check out <querybts> too. Users of unstable and testing are required to check the BTS. See also <apt-listbugs>, <reportbug>. http://wiki.debian.org/HowtoUseBTS |
| 21:06.00 | SixtyFold | tnks |
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| 21:19.34 | udevd | Mousey: i don't know how, but setting hwwep=0 option seems to fix the problem |
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| 21:19.51 | udevd | i don't really see how wep has anything to do with, well. moderns wifis |
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| 21:20.44 | udevd | hell I can even |
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| 21:20.54 | udevd | use my magic reloading command |
| 21:20.55 | Mousey | udevd: that's random |
| 21:20.59 | udevd | as frequent as I like |
| 21:21.02 | udevd | Mousey: right |
| 21:21.07 | Mousey | good find |
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| 21:21.19 | Mousey | maybe it really doesn't like WEP |
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| 21:32.08 | acz32 | this page seems to suggest one needs swap in order to sleep/suspend the system. is that correct? https://wiki.debian.org/Swap |
| 21:32.39 | Mousey | hibernate maybe |
| 21:32.49 | Mousey | but S3 shouldn't need swap |
| 21:33.46 | acz32 | i know it's needed for hibernation, but this claims it needs it for suspend also, which i didn't think was the case |
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| 21:34.02 | Mousey | shrugs. i don't think it is. |
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| 21:34.18 | Mousey | i'm wrong all the time tho, so don't ask me. =) |
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| 21:36.17 | jhutchins | s2r might need some swap, but not the whole RAM worth that s2d needs. |
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| 21:37.02 | acz32 | i set up my system without any swap |
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| 22:36.38 | econdudeawesome | Howdy all! I tried to install some 32-bit libraries on a 64-bit Wheezy install, and now I can't get apt-get upgrade to work. Where to start? |
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| 22:41.41 | econdudeawesome | Anyone alive? |
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| 22:57.53 | richied | Guys, I'm using Debian Jessie. My Var is full and unable to find the culprit. du -h won't show the individual file sizes |
| 22:58.16 | abrotman | richied: du -sh /var/* ; put it in paste.debian.net |
| 22:58.36 | abrotman | richied: also, df -h;df -i |
| 22:59.03 | canvon | du -ms /var/* | sort -n |
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| 23:01.22 | richied | Found it |
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| 23:01.42 | econdudeawesome | I am unable to remove 32-bit libraries after adding it as a foreign architecture in Wheezy. How to go about this? |
| 23:01.49 | richied | Abrotman, canvin...Thank you!!! |
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| 23:02.19 | Mousey | aalso du -a |
| 23:02.33 | abrotman | econdudeawesome: how did you install them? |
| 23:02.46 | econdudeawesome | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.46 | dpkg | gets an architect to start planning a new gothic chipset |
| 23:03.21 | econdudeawesome | then used apt-get update & upgrade and allowed for the recommended list. However, now I get the following output: |
| 23:04.22 | econdudeawesome | http://pastebin.com/RRJycZwD |
| 23:04.47 | econdudeawesome | and I think I'm a bit out of my depth. Tried to remove something simple, but keep getting this similar issue |
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| 23:08.02 | PolluxTheDog | Hello everyone, I was wondering, when can we expect Xfce 4.12 in Debian Jessie? Will it be in a 8.1/8.2/... version? Or will it be included only in Sid? Or maybe will be never included? (I'm not urging anyone this is just an informal question) |
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| 23:11.51 | abrotman | PolluxTheDog: whatever is there now is what will be there |
| 23:12.02 | abrotman | judd: versions xfce4 |
| 23:12.03 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1; experimental: 4.12 |
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| 23:12.50 | abrotman | econdudeawesome: and if you 'at-get -f install as it suggests? |
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| 23:15.08 | PolluxTheDog | abrotman: does experimental means the version after sid? therefore no way 4.12 will be avalaible ever in Jessie nor Sid? |
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| 23:16.58 | somiaj | PolluxTheDog: experimentail is a critter of its own. In general it is not a complete set of packages and is a place devs can upload packages they deem not ready for sid. |
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| 23:17.36 | somiaj | PolluxTheDog: during the freeze sid gets very slushy, and this means devs aren't putting new packages in sid. As a side effect of this they put them into experimential to sit there until the release. This means that right now experimeitnal as more packages than it normally has. |
| 23:17.41 | somiaj | !slushy |
| 23:17.41 | dpkg | When a <testing> release becomes frozen, <unstable> tends to partially freeze as well. This is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable, in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates and to fix release critical bugs which keep testing from becoming <stable>. |
| 23:18.30 | PolluxTheDog | alright! thank you somiaj |
| 23:18.45 | somiaj | PolluxTheDog: after the release, many of the packages that devs think are ready for sid will flood sid and the new testing (testing/unstable is extra unstable the weeks following a release). After that things go back to their normal flow with only truly experimetnal packages being put there. |
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| 23:19.16 | somiaj | !experimetnal |
| 23:19.39 | somiaj | !experimental |
| 23:19.40 | dpkg | experimental is the bleeding edge of Debian Development. Packages here have been deemed unfit/DANGEROUS/untrustworthy/etc for release by the maintainer responsible for them. DO NOT INSTALL PACKAGES FROM EXPERIMENTAL WITHOUT KNOWING EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT YOU ARE DOING. #debian does _not_ support experimental. For an actual description, see section 4.6.4.3 of the Developer's Reference. http://packages.debian.org/experimental/ |
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| 23:27.31 | econdudeawesome | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/M3V4qae6 |
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| 23:33.25 | abrotman | dpkg: tell econdudeawesome about overwrite |
| 23:33.28 | acz32 | does anyone know how to change the gtk theme from the commandline? lxappearance doesn't seem to have commandline methods |
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| 23:34.27 | econdudeawesome | abrotman: sounds promising. Is there a preferred source to check out? |
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| 23:41.11 | econdudeawesome | !overwrite |
| 23:41.11 | dpkg | The reason you have to use dpkg --force-overwrite is because the package you are trying to install has files which exist in another package and does not conflict with the other package. This is *ALWAYS* a bug. Make sure a bug is filed (ask me about <bts>). If there isn't one, use reportbug to report it. Then install using the following: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-overwrite" install <packagename> |
| 23:42.01 | econdudeawesome | it doesnt make sense to me why I need to overwrite install if I have the underlying packages already |
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| 23:42.59 | centrx | econdudeawesome, It's either a bug, or you installed a non-Debian package somewhere along the way |
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| 23:46.15 | econdudeawesome | I did use backports... |
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| 23:49.34 | themill | this is a known bug in the recent security upgrade of libxrender1 that hits multiarch installations |
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| 23:58.44 | pwk | having trouble during the installation of ndiswrapper-dkms on a system that has a most recent kernel installed. Specifically it hits this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ndiswrapper/+bug/1426583 |
| 23:59.15 | pwk | any hints on how to get ndiswrapper-dkms to play nice with my new kernel? |
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| 23:59.53 | pwk | I tried to find a newer (experimental) package (hoping the issue might have been fixed already), but to no avail. |
| 23:59.56 | abrotman | do you really need ndiswrapper? |