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| 00:42.22 | tgunr | why is the git package at version 1.7.10.4? |
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| 00:45.52 | centrx | tgunr, Debian stable releases stay stable. Package upgrades are only for security or serious issues, not new features |
| 00:46.21 | centrx | tgunr, You can get git 1.9.1 from wheezy-backports, or upgrade to jessie (next release soon) which has git 2.1.4 |
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| 00:50.30 | tgunr | ah, ok, was reading about a vulnerability in the older versions is why I asked |
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| 00:50.48 | centrx | tgunr, That will have been updated, probably by backporting the security fix to the Debian stable version |
| 00:51.09 | tgunr | I'll just install from source for now |
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| 00:54.18 | mondo_kims | what package is required for pseudo transparency with debian wheezy? i'm having trouble getting it to work with urxvt. i know my .Xdefaults are correct because i pulled it from a system where pseudotransparency was working fine. |
| 00:55.15 | centrx | tgunr, The case-insensitive file system bug doesn't really affect Linux/Debian because the filesystems are case-sensitive |
| 00:55.46 | tgunr | k, but I want 2.0 at least |
| 00:55.51 | centrx | right |
| 00:55.58 | centrx | ok |
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| 00:57.04 | centrx | tgunr, If you think you will be version-happy about other software as well, you may just want to upgrade to jessie as it's going to be released soon anyway |
| 00:57.21 | tgunr | hmm, ok thanks |
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| 00:57.57 | mondo_kims | is pseudo transparency still a thing or do i have to for a full compositor? |
| 00:59.17 | centrx | mondo_kims, I don't think pseudo-transparency requires anything special? |
| 00:59.32 | mondo_kims | hm. |
| 00:59.40 | centrx | mondo_kims, but you set the option in .Xdefaults and restarted X and it didn't work? |
| 00:59.46 | mondo_kims | yea. |
| 00:59.47 | centrx | http://ctkarch.org/documentation/tutorials/tuto.php?page=urxvt-transpa.xml ? |
| 00:59.48 | nciardo | hi there... do you know a good distributed filesystem? |
| 00:59.57 | mondo_kims | all the other parameters i changed in .Xdefaults worked. |
| 01:00.18 | centrx | weird |
| 01:00.43 | mondo_kims | i set the background with feh. not sure if that matters. |
| 01:01.08 | centrx | mondo_kims, it's also conceivable the Debian rxvt-unicode wasn't compiled with pseudo-transparency support, but I don't see why not |
| 01:01.14 | centrx | mondo_kims, You could try 'terminology' a fancy new terminal |
| 01:01.28 | centrx | actually that's only in jessie not wheezy |
| 01:01.50 | mondo_kims | i checked urxvt -version and it had it compiled in the repo binary. |
| 01:02.02 | centrx | ok cool |
| 01:02.17 | centrx | mondo_kims, Is there a command-line option for urxvt for it, try that instead of the Xdefaults? |
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| 01:02.31 | mondo_kims | yea, tried it. didn't work. |
| 01:02.33 | mondo_kims | +tr |
| 01:02.44 | hiexpo | nciardo, what do you mean good file system? |
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| 01:03.14 | nciardo | hiexpo: i mean the "best" in your experience |
| 01:03.26 | centrx | mondo_kims, here's another clue, but it says feh works: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Rxvt-unicode#Transparency_not_working_after_upgrade_to_v9.09 |
| 01:03.31 | nciardo | i'm looking for an advice :) |
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| 01:05.10 | hiexpo | file system for what |
| 01:05.10 | centrx | nciardo, Try asking in ##networking |
| 01:05.53 | nciardo | centrx: ok thank you |
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| 02:00.43 | RickHull | Hi, I |
| 02:01.03 | RickHull | I'm seeing some strange behavior with /etc/profile.d on Jessie / Gnome |
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| 02:01.39 | RickHull | created /etc/profile.d/profile-test.sh and inside just a simple function definition |
| 02:02.08 | RickHull | this somehow breaks gdm login |
| 02:02.57 | RickHull | https://gist.github.com/rickhull/d2e5ee21637534e24f60 |
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| 02:03.21 | RickHull | can anyone confirm the behavior, and whether it is expected? |
| 02:04.16 | RickHull | the behavior is: on gdm login, instead of landing on a desktop, the login screen is simply presented again after the screen goes black |
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| 02:05.02 | RickHull | i couldn't find anything useful in /var/log but that's probably for lack of knowing what to look for and where |
| 02:05.17 | mactimes | What's the correct module for RTL8139D(L)? |
| 02:05.46 | mactimes | Both 8139cp and 8139too don't work. |
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| 02:13.22 | RickHull | can anyone confirm the behavior? you can use the virtual console (e.g. ctrl-alt-F1) to get rid of the problematic file in order to log back in to gnome |
| 02:17.01 | RickHull | ah, it looks like gdm sources using sh/dash |
| 02:17.07 | RickHull | and i've used bash-only function syntax |
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| 02:19.20 | RickHull | checking, brb |
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| 02:28.33 | sydney_untangle | mactimes: Um. |
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| 02:29.17 | sydney_untangle | mactimes: If you dmesg it doesn't show up? Sometimes it will also list the driver in the bootup code. |
| 02:29.56 | intelikey | hi. i was reconfiguring grub2 and ... can that break xorg nowdays? cause i have no X now ;/ |
| 02:30.28 | somiaj | intelikey: well it can boot up off a different kernel, and depending on the drivers in this different kernel that can effect if xorg can load the graphics drivers or not |
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| 02:30.38 | somiaj | but that is only indirectally, it wont' have a direct effect as you thought |
| 02:30.50 | sydney_untangle | intelikey: No direct effect. |
| 02:31.23 | intelikey | somia only one kernel installed |
| 02:31.33 | sydney_untangle | Oh. |
| 02:31.50 | sydney_untangle | intelikey: Has it worked on this machine before? |
| 02:31.52 | sydney_untangle | X |
| 02:31.59 | intelikey | yes |
| 02:32.10 | somiaj | intelikey: intead of thinking 'what did grub do to break this', go and look at the /var/log/Xorg.0.log and debug what is happening. |
| 02:32.24 | somiaj | Is your display manager running from your init system, does it load xorg correctly, etc |
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| 02:33.54 | intelikey | i was hand editing /boot/grub/grub.cfg and restarting ... "i know that will be over written..." but now no X or let me rephrase. xorg is running but nothing is displayed. black screen no cursor. |
| 02:34.33 | intelikey | somiaj good idea. let me look at the logs. |
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| 02:35.47 | shay_shay | hai |
| 02:35.52 | somiaj | intelikey: why were you editing grub.cfg if you know you aren't supose to edit it? Modify the correct script in /etc/grub.d |
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| 02:36.43 | somiaj | actually most things can be done with correct variables in /etc/default/grub |
| 02:36.50 | intelikey | somiaj because i was tweeking it with quick reboot to test and will make changes i like perminant |
| 02:37.13 | intelikey | log shows every thing ok as far as i can tell.... [ 358.220] (II) AIGLX: Suspending AIGLX clients for VT switch |
| 02:37.15 | intelikey | [ 358.220] (II) NOUVEAU(0): NVLeaveVT is called. |
| 02:37.22 | intelikey | last two lines ^ |
| 02:37.46 | shay_shay | intelikey: look for lines with (EE) or (WW) |
| 02:37.50 | shay_shay | not (II) |
| 02:37.52 | intelikey | not any |
| 02:38.45 | intelikey | err gcorrection. one EE way up [ 16.129] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 02:38.50 | somiaj | intelikey: maybe your configs cause some issue with loading the nouvaue module |
| 02:39.01 | shay_shay | II could still show things but EE and WW are error and warnings |
| 02:39.15 | somiaj | that should be okay, 'nv' and 'nouveau' conficlit, hopefully 'nv' errors out and uses the nouveau drivers |
| 02:39.39 | vvuja | intelikey, although I'm not user of debian I might help |
| 02:39.45 | vvuja | check /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 02:39.54 | somiaj | most likey he doens't have an xorg.conf file |
| 02:40.02 | intelikey | somiaj right. like there was one |
| 02:40.07 | vvuja | do you have it? |
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| 02:40.12 | intelikey | oh < lagging |
| 02:40.30 | somiaj | intelikey: or you could just paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file at paste.debian.net |
| 02:40.36 | vvuja | you should have line Driver "nvidia" |
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| 02:40.45 | vvuja | if you have line Driver "nv" |
| 02:40.48 | vvuja | that is the error |
| 02:41.12 | vvuja | xorg.conf does not load propper module and instead loads noveau module as fallback |
| 02:41.28 | intelikey | vvuja /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist |
| 02:41.30 | shay_shay | vvuja: dont need a xorg.conf for nouveau, only proprietary nvidia driver |
| 02:41.44 | vvuja | and what does he wants to run |
| 02:41.48 | vvuja | nvidia or noveau |
| 02:41.55 | shay_shay | he wants not a black screen. |
| 02:42.32 | intelikey | like i said the default install was working. now xorg is running but it's blank |
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| 02:42.39 | intelikey | shay_shay exactly |
| 02:42.50 | vvuja | and in the meantime you upgraded and updated |
| 02:43.11 | intelikey | vvuja hehhe no. |
| 02:43.14 | vvuja | ok then |
| 02:43.18 | vvuja | was trying to help |
| 02:43.30 | intelikey | yeah. and thinks. |
| 02:43.36 | intelikey | thanks even |
| 02:43.50 | intelikey | no will to engrish |
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| 02:44.24 | somiaj | intelikey: well it could be that xorg is loading but your desktop/wm is failing. |
| 02:44.35 | somiaj | intelikey: but if you share your Xorg.0.log others can see if anything looks strange. |
| 02:45.22 | sydney_untangle | Is is possible that he has it set to auto log in? |
| 02:46.19 | intelikey | sydney_untangle no not auto. and if i had a script i could pastebin the log file |
| 02:46.40 | sydney_untangle | intelikey: Can you access terminal on broken machine? |
| 02:47.01 | intelikey | sydney_untangle i'm talkint to you on the broken boxen |
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| 02:47.53 | somiaj | intelikey: again we can contue this guessing game or you can just share the requested log file |
| 02:47.57 | somiaj | !pastebinit |
| 02:47.57 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
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| 02:48.06 | sydney_untangle | Oh! |
| 02:48.06 | sydney_untangle | good. |
| 02:48.06 | sydney_untangle | a tty. |
| 02:48.43 | intelikey | i noticed a message early in boot process. something like blah blah DRM sync "or" alignment error blah blah |
| 02:48.53 | intelikey | could that affect xorg |
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| 02:50.34 | intelikey | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.52 | intelikey | i have that command :))) |
| 02:51.23 | somiaj | intelikey: we would need a more exact error. I would look any errors you think are suspcious up in google and see what you get. |
| 02:51.49 | intelikey | working on it. |
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| 02:53.54 | sydney_untangle | I didn't know there was pastebinit! How handy! |
| 02:55.42 | intelikey | sydney_untangle heh it doesn't work lol |
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| 02:56.39 | sydney_untangle | intelikey: sudo apt-get install pastebinit? |
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| 02:57.05 | sydney_untangle | intelikey: Also, what version of debian is this? |
| 02:57.21 | intelikey | 7.7 |
| 02:57.54 | intelikey | ok... http://paste.debian.net/167421/ |
| 02:58.29 | intelikey | and here is dmesg http://paste.debian.net/167422/ |
| 02:58.44 | sydney_untangle | intelikey: :D |
| 02:58.52 | sydney_untangle | intelikey: Now we have something. |
| 02:59.01 | intelikey | and it is ? |
| 02:59.26 | somiaj | intelikey: what display manager do you use? |
| 03:00.00 | intelikey | forgets is ip data in that ? |
| 03:00.05 | intelikey | somiaj lightdm |
| 03:00.25 | somiaj | intelikey: /etc/init.d/lightdm stop (lets get the display manager out of the way) then just try to 'startx' as your normal user. |
| 03:00.31 | intelikey | default with debian 7.7 at least on the live cd |
| 03:00.42 | intelikey | ok |
| 03:00.53 | somiaj | intelikey: default depends on whcih live cd, but it doesn't matter, I just wanted to get the display manager out of teh way. |
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| 03:01.36 | somiaj | but everything looks godo for xorg, it coudl be an issue with lightdm or your desktop |
| 03:02.28 | intelikey | that broke every tty i have ;( including this one... typing blind |
| 03:02.42 | sydney_untangle | o_O |
| 03:02.42 | somiaj | intelikey: what did, stoping your display manager? |
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| 03:03.08 | sydney_untangle | Eww, something is not right. |
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| 03:04.42 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: yea something isn't right. At this point I think hardware/kernel issues. |
| 03:05.32 | kristijonas | hello, I'd like to program something like this: http://cdn.instructables.com/FIP/NL4U/GYQESNMW/FIPNL4UGYQESNMW.LARGE.jpg but just on Debian. How do I do it? |
| 03:05.33 | sydney_untangle | Im suprised he is running 3.2 |
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| 03:06.18 | Disconsented | kristijonas: what are you specifically trying to do? And do you have programming/shell scripting experience? |
| 03:06.59 | sydney_untangle | somiaj: What if we poinnt him to jessie, or ask if je updated his system yet? 7.7 is old. |
| 03:07.01 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: could be something as silly as he left off some kernel paramater he needs on his system to work with the nouveau driver when he changed things. |
| 03:07.15 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: it was working before, so it is either hardware or corruption. |
| 03:07.23 | sydney_untangle | True |
| 03:07.25 | s4ndm4n | sydney_untangle: if everything is working then why switch |
| 03:07.36 | sydney_untangle | Good question. |
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| 03:08.16 | somiaj | kristijonas: debian provides lots of different ways to program. You can start with bash scripts, but any major langauge is available. Care to be mor clear what you want to do? That looks a lot like a shell script to me. |
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| 03:08.40 | s4ndm4n | somiaj: Java? |
| 03:08.41 | kristijonas | Disconsented, spamming. but of course, for entertaining purposes. I want a computer act as if I physically on my keyboard every second type some message and the ENTER botton. |
| 03:09.03 | s4ndm4n | somiaj: Nevermind. That looks like VBScript |
| 03:09.07 | somiaj | s4ndm4n: I guess I"m not good at reconizing java. I just see a loop and an echo. (: |
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| 03:10.12 | somiaj | kristijonas: well it is easy to make a loop in any programing langauge. Making it act like you are physically hitting a key is a bit more of a chore. I think there is an XY problem here. What is it you are trying to achive by 'acting like i'm physically on my keyboard every second' |
| 03:13.33 | kristijonas | somiaj, to spam a friend with a single message. And instead of copying and paste some message and clicking enter, over and over, i just run a script, and literally all it does is does what my finger could do on keyboard. nothing more. |
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| 03:14.00 | somiaj | kristijonas: so think of it like that, I want a loop to spam a message. How are you sending this message? |
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| 03:14.28 | somiaj | kristijonas: may things will have scripting abilities, but there is a program called xdotool, install that, write a small script and use that to 'click' your buttons for you |
| 03:14.52 | shay_shay | kristijonas: on IRC? |
| 03:15.15 | kristijonas | shay_shay, no, on skype. somiaj, I send a message by clicking ENTER. |
| 03:15.35 | somiaj | kristijonas: well look at xdotool, 'apt-get install xdotool', it will do this for you |
| 03:15.45 | shay_shay | kristijonas: then do what somiaj said, xdotool |
| 03:16.03 | somiaj | kristijonas: note you have to be careful, once you start the loop you'll want a way to stop it. Which is going to be hard because skype will have focus. (: |
| 03:17.01 | kristijonas | somiaj, thank you. installing xdotool. |
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| 04:03.22 | mactimes | sydney_untangle http://paste.debian.net/167427 |
| 04:03.28 | mactimes | sydney_untangle dmesg output. |
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| 04:34.47 | RickHull | is this a bad idea? seems much simpler than e.g. keychain. why doesn't ssh-agent do something like this by default? https://github.com/rickhull/public/blob/master/etc/profile.d/ssh-agent.sh |
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| 05:50.24 | bierdieb | o/ hi there. is there a package able to use miracast e.g. on samsung tv screens? |
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| 06:14.02 | anddam | I started the system (set up to use dhcp on eth0) with the cable unplugged, now I connected to the cable. What's the proper way to renew the dhcp request, restart the network service or ifdown-up on the single iface? |
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| 06:31.44 | jair | hello masters, I know there is a program I can use in deian if I want to test icmp protocol from a range of IPs |
| 06:31.50 | jair | pathping? |
| 06:31.54 | jair | something like that? |
| 06:32.09 | RickHull | need more details |
| 06:32.47 | jair | for example I want to find out which ip addresses respond to icmp ping e.g. 10.115.48.65/26 |
| 06:33.09 | RickHull | sounds like nmap |
| 06:33.31 | jair | that will be 60 hmm nmap |
| 06:33.42 | RickHull | "hmm" ? |
| 06:33.46 | jair | sorry I mean like 60 pingable hosts |
| 06:33.59 | RickHull | i don't follow |
| 06:34.33 | jair | ok so in networking 10.115.48.65/26 means 62 ips, from which I can assign to real hosts 60 ips |
| 06:34.47 | RickHull | i understand CIDR notation... |
| 06:34.53 | jair | cool |
| 06:35.00 | jair | so where is your confussion then? |
| 06:35.17 | jair | confusion |
| 06:35.24 | RickHull | does nmap not understand CIDR notation, or are you having trouble pumping the IPs into nmap? |
| 06:35.30 | RickHull | what is the hurdle? |
| 06:35.32 | jair | sorry English is my third language |
| 06:36.05 | jair | ahhh I want to get a list of the ips that are up/used/icmp responsive |
| 06:36.05 | RickHull | what is the spefici shortcoming with nmap? is it not matching your requirements? |
| 06:36.17 | RickHull | specific* |
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| 06:36.40 | jair | let me try namp, but I heard about something called pathping or something like that |
| 06:36.43 | jair | googling |
| 06:36.51 | RickHull | I don't know about pathping |
| 06:41.29 | fernie | you can use nmap, or from bash: for i in {65..126}; do ping -q -c1 10.115.48.$i; done |
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| 06:42.50 | RickHull | needs more concurrency |
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| 06:43.14 | vandox | namp should support the notation |
| 06:43.22 | RickHull | namp ftw |
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| 06:45.08 | RickHull | did #debian lost its roots :( mwah |
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| 06:48.56 | RickHull | SlaGTaTs: sweet nick |
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| 06:51.05 | bchamberlain | jair fping |
| 06:51.05 | jair | RickHull & fernie: thank you for the siggestions |
| 06:51.20 | jair | bchamberlain: that is what I was looking for |
| 06:51.25 | bchamberlain | jair fping -g 10.0.0.0/24 will ping that subnet |
| 06:51.28 | jair | bchamberlain: thank you so much |
| 06:51.44 | jair | awesome! |
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| 06:52.27 | RickHull | whoa, is it just my IRC client, or did bchamberlain respond before jair inquired? |
| 06:53.06 | bchamberlain | RickHull: freenode being a derp |
| 06:53.17 | RickHull | ok, actually makes sense now |
| 06:54.14 | jair | thank you all |
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| 07:00.51 | anddam | also bchamberlain reached 88 mph |
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| 07:03.00 | RickHull | mph? |
| 07:03.08 | RickHull | back to the future? |
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| 07:08.51 | thomas_d | there's a package telling me there's a dependency on some "multiverse" stuff but "multiverse" seems to only be for ubuntu does this mean I can't install this application? |
| 07:09.16 | anddam | yep |
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| 07:09.27 | enoch | hi all |
| 07:09.37 | anddam | but I actually saw the question first, then the answer |
| 07:09.46 | RickHull | thomas: `cat /etc/debian_version` |
| 07:09.50 | enoch | im trying to launch tcpdump using nohup, but when i kill it the created pcap file results corrupted |
| 07:09.56 | anddam | how do I go in order to check if my wifi chipset is supported? |
| 07:09.58 | enoch | what is the right way to run tcpdump in background? |
| 07:10.07 | RickHull | enoch: can you make a gist/paste? |
| 07:10.17 | enoch | ?? |
| 07:10.20 | RickHull | e.g. http://gist.github.com/ |
| 07:10.28 | anddam | enoch: possible a terminal multiplexer |
| 07:10.31 | anddam | possibly |
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| 07:10.42 | RickHull | try to paste something that others could possibly execute to see the same result |
| 07:10.50 | thomas_d_ | sorry I broke something, accidentally catted some crazy stuff, lol... Version is 7.8 |
| 07:11.51 | enoch | RickHull: this is what i launch: nohup tcpdump -i tun0 src host 10.8.0.110 -w /var/log/luca/log11.pcap -s 0 & |
| 07:11.55 | enoch | i have nothing to paste.... |
| 07:11.58 | RickHull | thomas: which application? |
| 07:12.10 | RickHull | thomas: sounds like an ubuntu thing, not debian |
| 07:12.52 | RickHull | enoch: as normal, unprivileged user? |
| 07:13.03 | enoch | no, im root |
| 07:13.11 | RickHull | enoch root, ofc |
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| 07:13.42 | enoch | tcpdump -r log11.pcap |
| 07:13.42 | enoch | tcpdump: truncated dump file; tried to read 4 file header bytes, only got 0 |
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| 07:13.56 | thomas_d_ | well I downloaded this, RickHull : https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/detail?name=webcamstudio_0.56_all.deb&can=2&q= |
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| 07:14.04 | RickHull | offtopic: v |
| 07:14.10 | RickHull | gah, http://baroquecycle.wikia.com/wiki/Enoch_Root |
| 07:14.11 | thomas_d_ | my result is this http://pastebin.com/ZNJ1xGcE |
| 07:14.20 | anddam | RickHull: well 7.8 sounds like debian |
| 07:15.21 | anirban | Could anyone please help me how I should I set up my printer. I bought a canon LBP 2900, and installed printer-driver-cjet from the repositories. I have no clue how to move forward from here. |
| 07:15.42 | thomas_d_ | they also have this more recent version but there is no *.deb or anything here http://sourceforge.net/projects/webcamstudio/ |
| 07:15.56 | thomas_d_ | I untarred and there's no "make file" either I don't think |
| 07:16.06 | thomas_d_ | so I couldn't work out what to do with that either :\ |
| 07:16.08 | RickHull | anddam: sure, but multiverse is pure ubuntu, right? |
| 07:16.41 | anddam | RickHull: I didn't read any multiverse mention tho' |
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| 07:17.21 | RickHull | anddam: pay closer attention to thomas_d |
| 07:17.43 | anddam | oh up there |
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| 07:18.09 | anddam | I wasn't paying attention back then at his first channel join |
| 07:18.15 | anddam | anyway |
| 07:18.49 | RickHull | no worries, thanks for helping :) i'm ovewhelmed |
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| 07:19.44 | anddam | "We're on a mission from God" and the mission is figuring out if Debian can do WiFi on this NUC |
| 07:20.04 | RickHull | if we can jump the bridge in a crown vic, we can do anything |
| 07:20.07 | anddam | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:20.28 | anddam | and the chipset was some commercially available brand, pretty supported and old |
| 07:20.41 | thomas_d_ | the 0.72 has these files when untarred - does this look like a list of files that could legitimately be installed on debian? http://pastebin.com/wn9tramn |
| 07:21.01 | thomas_d_ | the readme says to use a command that goes "ant clean jar" but that was not successful either |
| 07:21.18 | RickHull | thomas_d: looks like a normal git/dev project |
| 07:21.57 | anddam | thomas_d_: can you brief what your the actual goal is? |
| 07:22.08 | thomas_d_ | just to get this software installed |
| 07:22.26 | anddam | SYNTAX ERROR |
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| 07:22.58 | anddam | I didn't open any link you provided so far, so "this software" doesn't say a thing |
| 07:23.37 | RickHull | here is the link for the software for thomas_d: https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/detail?name=webcamstudio_0.56_all.deb&can=2&q= |
| 07:23.59 | RickHull | it's a .deb, but probably for ubuntu and not debian |
| 07:24.06 | thomas_d_ | yeah that's right |
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| 07:24.27 | RickHull | btw, code.google.com is deprecated, going away soon |
| 07:24.34 | hiexpo | probally work though try it |
| 07:24.46 | RickHull | so there may be an updated place to go. you might be looking at old stuff |
| 07:25.04 | thomas_d_ | ... I've tried it, I get messages about dependencies on gstreamer-.*-multiverse stuff |
| 07:25.19 | RickHull | that's ubuntu. are you running ubuntu? |
| 07:25.27 | thomas_d_ | no I'm not running ubuntu that's the thing |
| 07:25.54 | RickHull | it sounds like someone made packages that assumed ubuntu and are not portable to debian |
| 07:26.13 | RickHull | if that's the case, you will get very little sympathy or support here |
| 07:26.20 | thomas_d_ | yeah I should probably give up on that 0.56 version on that code.google.com page |
| 07:27.11 | thomas_d_ | but look I think this would be a lot easier if one of you experts just pulled and untarred this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/webcamstudio/ |
| 07:27.21 | thomas_d_ | and advise me if you think I have any chance of building/installing this on debian |
| 07:27.27 | thomas_d_ | or if you think I should just give up |
| 07:28.00 | RickHull | thomas_d_: you just nominated yourself to be the debian maintainer for webcamstudio!!!! congratulations!!!! |
| 07:28.15 | thomas_d_ | god damn it |
| 07:28.23 | RickHull | apt-cache search webcamstudio # nil |
| 07:28.39 | RickHull | (jessie) |
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| 07:30.26 | anddam | thomas_d_: without trying I say it's very likely you can build it on debian, since they did on ubuntu |
| 07:30.27 | hiexpo | thomas, just compile it it works fine i did it to check ant clean jar |
| 07:31.10 | thomas_d_ | you untarred it and then just entered the command "ant clean jar" in the directory of the files and it worked? |
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| 07:31.25 | hiexpo | yes thomas |
| 07:31.32 | anddam | you'll have to have ant for that, with all the other requirements (like a jdk) |
| 07:31.53 | hiexpo | yes read dependicies |
| 07:32.01 | thomas_d_ | ah yeah I need to install a java compiler or something |
| 07:32.10 | anddam | thomas_d_: since you're not taking into account initial states you cannot expect that the same behavior will yield the same results |
| 07:32.28 | RickHull | repeatable builds ftw |
| 07:32.31 | hiexpo | BUILD SUCCESSFUL Total time: 44 seconds |
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| 07:35.41 | thomas_d_ | "Compile failed; see the compiler error output for details. |
| 07:35.43 | hiexpo | thomas_d, you need java and ffmpeg |
| 07:35.58 | RickHull | for java, it's openjdk? |
| 07:36.16 | RickHull | apt-get install $what? |
| 07:36.49 | thomas_d_ | I believe I installed all the dependencies, it's acting like there's a java compiler but I need to check the compiler log because it's failing... it doesn't tell me where this log would be |
| 07:37.09 | thomas_d_ | I have openjdk-6-jre and -jdk installed currently |
| 07:37.17 | thomas_d_ | What java stuff do you have installed hiexpo ? |
| 07:37.19 | RickHull | which cmd is failing? |
| 07:37.25 | thomas_d_ | the ant clean jar thing |
| 07:37.33 | RickHull | try ant -v |
| 07:37.51 | RickHull | (or --version) # i'm not a java person |
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| 07:38.02 | hiexpo | lots openjdk-6-jre |
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| 07:38.38 | hiexpo | you need |
| 07:38.39 | anddam | thomas_d_: I'd go with jdk7 nowadays |
| 07:38.45 | anddam | Oracle's at 8 |
| 07:39.03 | anddam | hiexpo: no, if he's going to build he'll need jdk not jre |
| 07:39.08 | thomas_d_ | RickHull: http://pastebin.com/X4VYACQB |
| 07:39.10 | anddam | JRE is just the runtime environment |
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| 07:39.47 | RickHull | thomas_d_: looks reasonable. i am barfing silently FYI |
| 07:39.51 | anddam | maybe it's a bit stretched but can you suggest a 3D game possibly in Debian's repo? |
| 07:39.59 | hiexpo | openjdk-6-jdk |
| 07:40.02 | anddam | I want to check the performance with the hardware renderer |
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| 07:40.29 | vandox | anddam: quake maybe? |
| 07:40.39 | vandox | Although its mostly only the engine |
| 07:40.48 | anddam | vandox: quake used to run well on a Pentium tho' |
| 07:41.09 | anddam | software, I was thinking something that stresses a bit the gpu |
| 07:41.21 | anddam | but I'm totally out the gaming |
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| 07:41.27 | anddam | so I don't know names |
| 07:41.29 | RickHull | thomas_d_: everything from line 284 on seems maybe suspect? (not a java person) |
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| 07:42.13 | RickHull | is this the problem? [javac] javac: invalid target release: 1.7 |
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| 07:42.45 | hiexpo | thats java 7 |
| 07:42.46 | RickHull | L1528 |
| 07:43.04 | RickHull | what a country! they say 1.7 when they mean 7 |
| 07:43.08 | anddam | is it possibly in the requirements and did thomas_d_ ignore it? |
| 07:43.16 | anddam | that's java naming |
| 07:43.18 | anddam | 7 is codename |
| 07:43.26 | RickHull | super srs codename 7 |
| 07:43.27 | themill | You'd want openjdk-7-jdk |
| 07:44.01 | RickHull | is it flammable or inflammable? |
| 07:44.03 | hiexpo | some people just can't compile |
| 07:44.26 | RickHull | i might be in that basket :( |
| 07:44.29 | hiexpo | and read the output |
| 07:44.37 | thomas_d_ | I will be able to compile one day hiexpo I'm sorry, hang on, I'm just working on this now, I am determined to compile this, thank you for your help everyone, bear with me |
| 07:44.57 | RickHull | i always read the output. i do have that going for me |
| 07:45.17 | shay_shay | i wonder what would happen: apt-get install $(grep -R Package: /var/lib/apt/lists/ | awk '{print $2}') |
| 07:45.36 | RickHull | doo eet |
| 07:46.18 | RickHull | my get rich quick scheme: `cat foot | awk '{print $5 }'` |
| 07:46.34 | RickHull | s/cat foot/cat food/argh |
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| 07:47.40 | shay_shay | RickHull: i dont get it |
| 07:47.52 | RickHull | shay_shay: try it and see |
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| 07:48.00 | thomas_d_ | I uninstalled all the jdk 7 stuff, everything with a 7... Did apt-get autoremove and autoclean and all... Only got the jdk 6 stuff installed now... Still getting the same ant -v I think (really long output) http://pastebin.com/BvcAUeV2 |
| 07:48.04 | hiexpo | i compile almost everything i use just compiled newest nmap 6.47 last night easy breezy |
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| 07:48.06 | shay_shay | there would be no such file food |
| 07:48.08 | RickHull | or if you mean my joke, it's that i can turn cat food into money |
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| 07:48.18 | RickHull | you have to supply the cat food |
| 07:48.35 | hiexpo | lol |
| 07:48.54 | shay_shay | it would just show you the 5th whitespace delimited word in file food |
| 07:49.00 | anddam | thomas_d_: why did you do that? it seems to me you would need to do the opposite |
| 07:49.15 | hiexpo | exactly |
| 07:49.20 | RickHull | shay_shay: indeed, so it's up to you to give it the right food |
| 07:49.20 | thomas_d_ | get rid of all the 6 stuff replace with the 7 stuff? hm okay, sec then lol |
| 07:49.31 | hiexpo | reinstall it thomas_d |
| 07:49.45 | thomas_d_ | my logic was that hiexpo said he/she had 6 |
| 07:50.19 | hiexpo | you can change default version of jaa in terminal |
| 07:50.27 | hiexpo | ^java |
| 07:50.31 | RickHull | jaa rastafari |
| 07:50.57 | shay_shay | ja rule |
| 07:51.04 | RickHull | dance |
| 07:52.55 | hiexpo | i have 6 7 8 thomas_d i change version for what i am running i told you i have lots that app needs 6 it says |
| 07:52.59 | thomas_d_ | BUILD SUCCESSFUL |
| 07:53.04 | thomas_d_ | wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow unbelievable |
| 07:53.08 | RickHull | hooray \o/ |
| 07:53.19 | shay_shay | what were you building anyways? |
| 07:53.22 | shay_shay | i missed that part |
| 07:53.25 | RickHull | a pile of crap |
| 07:53.29 | thomas_d_ | webcamstudio... need to chat to babes online |
| 07:53.29 | hiexpo | yup |
| 07:53.36 | shay_shay | :O |
| 07:53.57 | RickHull | babes online are totally worth building a pile of crap for |
| 07:54.04 | RickHull | don't let anyone tell u different |
| 07:54.11 | hiexpo | never lol |
| 07:54.20 | thomas_d_ | babes online will motivate me to learn how to better compile in future... thank you so much good debian folk |
| 07:54.43 | RickHull | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:54.46 | shay_shay | babes dont use the internet |
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| 07:55.01 | hiexpo | exactly |
| 07:56.01 | shay_shay | all the babes who do use the internet pose as guys so they wont be harassed |
| 07:56.10 | RickHull | hey sexy a/s/l? |
| 07:56.13 | thomas_d_ | wait... it built... but it's not showing up as an application... it should just be a GUI application |
| 07:56.19 | shay_shay | so therefore all the "babes" are actually guys posing as babes |
| 07:56.26 | cy5 | Iam trying to create wifi captive portal on raspberry pi so i've installed nginix server and DNSMASQ,after using dnsmasq for traffic redirecting it works only on LAN but not on WiFi..? how would i do that here's my dnsmaq conf file http://pastebin.com/0w8LiNRG |
| 07:56.33 | thomas_d_ | what am I supposed to do now? what has building it actually accomplished? it seems to have accomplished nothing |
| 07:56.46 | RickHull | thomas_d_: lol |
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| 07:57.09 | RickHull | step 1: build app |
| 07:57.12 | RickHull | step 2: collect babes |
| 07:57.13 | shay_shay | cy5: you might have better luck in #raspbian |
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| 07:57.29 | hiexpo | The binaries will be in the dist folder |
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| 07:58.09 | shay_shay | cy5: assuming you are using raspbian. if you're actually using debian then on irc.oftc.net #debian-arm |
| 07:58.41 | hiexpo | thomas_d, The binaries will be in the dist folder |
| 07:58.42 | thomas_d_ | yeah there is WebcamStudio.jar |
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| 08:00.12 | RickHull | java that jar |
| 08:00.20 | RickHull | ftw |
| 08:00.29 | shay_shay | cy5: you likely have a different ip for your wifi interface |
| 08:00.54 | shay_shay | cy5: you need to enable dhcp for both interfaces. i only see it enabled for one |
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| 08:01.09 | cy5 | how should i know my wifi interface ip |
| 08:01.15 | shay_shay | ip addr |
| 08:01.20 | hiexpo | ifconfig |
| 08:01.26 | RickHull | ip addr |
| 08:01.30 | shay_shay | ^ |
| 08:01.38 | shay_shay | hiexpo: ifconfig is depreciated |
| 08:01.40 | RickHull | # the new style |
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| 08:03.40 | cy5 | ok here when ip addr http://pastebin.com/JzYBDK3f |
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| 08:04.25 | hiexpo | 192.168.0.103 |
| 08:04.35 | RickHull | what's the problem? just write a mapreduce query and GFY |
| 08:04.56 | RickHull | sorry, i'm only slightly kidding |
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| 08:05.08 | cy5 | shay_shay: whats my ip address for wlan0 http://pastebin.com/JzYBDK3f |
| 08:05.27 | shay_shay | cy5: you havent configured wlan0 yet |
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| 08:06.26 | hiexpo | oops didn't look at interface my bad |
| 08:06.49 | thomas_d_ | Damn, it nearly starts up... It errors out with "Exception in threads" though http://pastebin.com/yyrm5aV3 |
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| 08:07.04 | thomas_d_ | This java stuff is way worse than normal debian stuff :\ |
| 08:07.04 | shay_shay | cy5: are you following a howto? mind pasting it? |
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| 08:07.28 | cy5 | sorry but i'm able to connect to my wifi and use it. |
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| 08:08.21 | shay_shay | cy5: whats /etc/network/interfaces have |
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| 08:08.51 | cy5 | shay_shay:let me check |
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| 08:10.05 | cy5 | shay_shay: http://pastebin.com/JZfLUsbH |
| 08:10.46 | thomas_d_ | a guy on a forum put: "Oh sorry for the delay, I fixed it by one-jar'ing the build so it included all the library jars inside it, the easy way for the lazy programmer." - anyone know what "one-jarring" means in terms of what command I should type? |
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| 08:11.38 | thomas_d_ | oh it's some separate thing... nvm |
| 08:12.01 | RickHull | dude, jar jar binks ftw |
| 08:12.07 | hiexpo | java -jar |
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| 08:13.20 | Malinux | How can I move my /boot/efi partiton to another partition? |
| 08:13.22 | thomas_d_ | http://pastebin.com/yyrm5aV3 for that hiexpo |
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| 08:13.54 | RoyK | seems /boot/efi just kidnapped a 2TB drive during installation |
| 08:14.01 | RoyK | (in Malinux' case) |
| 08:14.15 | hiexpo | i don't use a lot of java mostly ruby and pyton |
| 08:14.35 | cy5 | shay_shay: http://pastebin.com/JZfLUsbH i think my wlan0 is configured |
| 08:14.52 | hiexpo | ^python |
| 08:15.01 | RoyK | monty |
| 08:15.07 | Malinux | monty python |
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| 08:16.05 | RoyK | Anyone that knows if that /boot/efi partition is needed? does grub use it? does EFI depend on it? |
| 08:16.36 | RoyK | the installation just whacked its way into a RAID disk and created it there |
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| 08:17.03 | RoyK | ( Malinux' case ) |
| 08:17.43 | Malinux | It is |
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| 08:18.18 | RoyK | Malinux: 'it is'? |
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| 08:19.14 | Ox17 | Hello, Im having problems with my internet connection. My Wlan Connection drops automatically after 5-10 mins and reconnects. This happens all the time, any suggestions? |
| 08:19.45 | RoyK | check the logs |
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| 08:20.13 | Malinux | RoyK: it's strange |
| 08:20.39 | shay_shay | cy5: i think you're missing a "iface wlan0 inet dhcp" line |
| 08:20.56 | shay_shay | see the example here http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-linux-setting-wireless-access-point/ |
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| 08:22.30 | hiexpo | what is that bro interface looks like a loop ? |
| 08:22.51 | shay_shay | its a bridge |
| 08:23.11 | shay_shay | bridge 0 br0 |
| 08:23.49 | hiexpo | sorry shay_shay thats what i meant a bridge is he in irtual machine |
| 08:23.51 | RoyK | iirc bridging doesn't work too well with wireless |
| 08:23.59 | hiexpo | ^virtual |
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| 08:24.37 | hiexpo | i bet |
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| 08:26.20 | anddam | I installed iwlwifi along with nonfree firmware, I removed the loaded module and reloaded it, I installed wicd and it shows the card and my home SSID so the card most likely works |
| 08:26.58 | anddam | if I then go connecting the network is stays a while veryfing the authentication and then after several minutes it does nothing |
| 08:27.19 | anddam | well as a nice side effect it brings down eth0 as well so in order to connect I have to explicitly tell wicd to reconnect wired network |
| 08:27.27 | anddam | how do I debug this? |
| 08:27.42 | cy5 | shay_shay:i don't understand can you just explain once more |
| 08:28.31 | anddam | also this setting interfaces in user's session confuse me, wicd debian's wiki page says the interface should not be mentioned in the /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:28.48 | cy5 | hiexpo:Iam using putty to connect to my pi |
| 08:28.50 | anddam | are these "network manager" tool running in a user xorg session well integrated with the rest of the system? |
| 08:29.19 | hiexpo | cy5, oh ok |
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| 08:30.21 | hiexpo | cy5, so your ip is of br0 try it |
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| 08:33.05 | cy5 | hiexpo: you can look all my ip and interface http://pastebin.com/JzYBDK3f i think my br0 ip is 192.168.0.103 am i right? |
| 08:33.22 | hiexpo | yes cy5 |
| 08:34.50 | cy5 | oh thanks but i tried that http://pastebin.com/0w8LiNRG its not working |
| 08:35.21 | Ox17 | I think Ive found the line Apr 17 23:13:39 darkstar dhclient: bound to 192.168.0.12 -- renewal in 35814 seconds. |
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| 08:37.43 | cy5 | hiexpo: the above code is of dnsmasq when i restart my dnsmasq all my lan user are redirected to my webserver but not wifi user they can easily access the net why is this happening ? |
| 08:38.25 | hiexpo | cy5, not sure trying to ping it now |
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| 08:39.28 | cy5 | hiexpo: yeah not working,you know wifi captive portal i'm trying to make that |
| 08:39.59 | hiexpo | scanning that network with nmap may take a few |
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| 08:41.05 | cy5 | hiexpo: let me explain you in brief so that it would then easy for you, yeah i tried nmap and wireshark too for scannig |
| 08:41.51 | hiexpo | cy5, when you open wireshark what ip does it give you? |
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| 08:43.17 | hiexpo | and what interfaces? |
| 08:43.41 | cy5 | hiexpo:yes i have opend my wireshark |
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| 08:46.50 | cy5 | hiexpo:now i go in capture and click on interface i get no interface |
| 08:47.17 | hiexpo | are you running as root |
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| 08:51.13 | hiexpo | gksudo wireshark |
| 08:51.54 | hiexpo | thats no really the right way but it will work for now |
| 08:51.57 | cy5 | hiexpo: getting error root@raspberrypi:~# gksudo wireshark PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol attempted (gksudo:3596): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0 |
| 08:52.53 | hiexpo | oh snap cy5 your on raspberry |
| 08:53.14 | hiexpo | didn't catchthat before |
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| 08:56.26 | marktest | . |
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| 08:57.32 | anddam | marktest: indeed |
| 08:57.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, if you have an entry in /etc/network/interfaces, the graphical tools will ignore that interface (else you could configure both and have races and confusion, I guess) |
| 08:57.57 | marktest | hey don't mind me i'm just testing something |
| 08:58.29 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: so it's a thing on the graphical tool's end |
| 08:58.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, and those things are hard to debug because much of what's actually happening happens in firmware/hardware... I would try setting up the simplest unencrypted wifi connection first, then add complexity when it's sure that that works |
| 08:59.19 | shay_shay | cy5: what does this say: cat /etc/issue |
| 08:59.28 | anddam | anyway I'm not getting any luck with this wicd configuration - actually I'm not expert at all in wifi under linux |
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| 09:00.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's a long time now that I had a similar problem (configuring it with interfaces, though)... and I must say I just fiddled round changing parameters until it worked, there was no deterministic debug->fix cycle |
| 09:00.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | more trial and error |
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| 09:02.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | (and error and error) |
| 09:02.44 | cy5 | shay_shay:Raspbian GNU/Linux 7 \n \l |
| 09:03.17 | shay_shay | cy5: /msf dpkg tell me about not debian |
| 09:03.26 | shay_shay | er |
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| 09:04.23 | shay_shay | !not debian |
| 09:04.24 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 09:05.28 | shay_shay | cy5: I would look into openwrt if I were you, openwrt will be a lot easier to configure for what youre trying to do because it is made for that kind of thing |
| 09:05.57 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: back, was getting a coffee. I truly think the key point to solving this issue is more coffee |
| 09:06.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, that sounds extremely reasonable |
| 09:07.12 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: I wonder if tring to do a direct connection in interfaces would possibly work, also if I do actually need a cold reboot since iwlwifi module was already loaded and the wiki pages hinted a reload |
| 09:07.39 | anddam | in fact I checked lsmod before and after and it was loading a module more, so possibly something else would change reloading other modules |
| 09:08.02 | anddam | with the fresh power of coffee I hereby issue a reboot |
| 09:09.08 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, one thing I've sometimes seen with wireless on a laptop (albeit around 2005ish) was that the wlan would only work after booting into windows... I guess that was some firmware being loaded as well, though |
| 09:09.31 | anddam | I wouldn't know how to work that out tho' |
| 09:09.41 | anddam | this is a single boot system for now |
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| 09:09.50 | Artej | hi |
| 09:09.54 | anddam | later it'll have most likely arch and obsd |
| 09:10.02 | anddam | it's my "fun station" |
| 09:10.26 | Artej | https://www.dropbox.com/s/qad4a9bx3nnyn39/bs.png?dl=0 how do I fix my stream list being spammed with speech-dispatcher |
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| 09:10.43 | Artej | or how do I at least see who spawns all these |
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| 09:13.11 | hiexpo | shay_shay, so hes not useing debian |
| 09:13.28 | shay_shay | hiexpo: i figured, but he wouldnt tell me at first |
| 09:13.40 | shay_shay | :D |
| 09:13.53 | hiexpo | exactly shay_shay i figured also |
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| 09:14.19 | shay_shay | I run actual debian on my pi2 and beaglebone |
| 09:14.21 | hiexpo | probally kali |
| 09:14.40 | shay_shay | but... i think i would use openwrt if i wanted to make a captive portal |
| 09:14.51 | hiexpo | yup |
| 09:14.57 | shay_shay | just the path of least resistance |
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| 09:15.38 | hiexpo | exactly |
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| 09:16.05 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: on top of that the home tp-link is _really_ bad |
| 09:17.47 | shay_shay | hiexpo: it would take 20 minutes to do on openwrt :P |
| 09:17.57 | RickHull | on top of of what, shit 10 years ago? |
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| 09:18.07 | hiexpo | maybe we need to ask cat /etc/issue at first to insure |
| 09:18.26 | hiexpo | shay_shay, so easy to do it |
| 09:18.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, move closer until it works? |
| 09:19.01 | hiexpo | shay_shay, but these kids wanna behackers lol |
| 09:19.26 | RickHull | email me teh codez pls |
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| 09:20.44 | hiexpo | first learn unix second learn linux 3rd learn one app at a time |
| 09:21.14 | shay_shay | hiexpo: i could have fixed his configuration file if i had it in front of me, but he wasnt explaining the full thing. was he using hostapd? was he going off a how-to? |
| 09:21.42 | hiexpo | shay_shay, yup i think so |
| 09:22.02 | shay_shay | i didnt want to play 20 questions |
| 09:22.03 | RickHull | yesbutwhydoesmyemailheadergetflaggedbymyspamfilter? #literallyhitler |
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| 09:22.31 | hiexpo | he wasn't being straight |
| 09:23.13 | hiexpo | he said he was on putty lie |
| 09:23.26 | RickHull | LIES! |
| 09:23.47 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: it's not a matter of signal power |
| 09:24.23 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: the internal server is very poorly coded - like it relies on js for form submission |
| 09:24.53 | hiexpo | CutMeOwnThroat, i been busy whats the issue your haing? |
| 09:24.57 | anddam | or it doesn't support concurrent dl but since it uses frames for the ui a modern browser will load part of pages |
| 09:25.19 | anddam | and at times it just won't take the submission, at times it will, all other conditions being the same |
| 09:25.46 | anddam | just as comparison I set up a MikroTik home device, it was just plain wonderful |
| 09:25.48 | hiexpo | ^having sorry I have a V issue hehe |
| 09:26.07 | anddam | a 600MHz 128MB MIPS device for 45 EUR |
| 09:26.31 | anddam | their interface is just… right |
| 09:26.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | hiexpo, none? |
| 09:26.43 | shay_shay | anddam: i have a tp-link wdr4300 (n750) which is amazing with openwrt |
| 09:27.07 | anddam | shay_shay: openwrt != tp-link's firmware |
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| 09:27.15 | shay_shay | anddam: what model do you have? |
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| 09:27.48 | anddam | I think my damn-modem-broke-gotta-go-to-shop-down-the-road-and-take-what-they-have model doesn't support openwrt |
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| 09:28.09 | anddam | actually I remember having a long email conversation about their support asking for the sources (I thought this was in their GPL firmware) |
| 09:28.30 | RickHull | your modem?! |
| 09:28.30 | hiexpo | when i used then wrt54g was the best |
| 09:28.35 | anddam | they eventually told me it wasn't, after several levels of support and misunderstanding |
| 09:28.50 | anddam | RickHull: I call modem the adsl modem/router/switch/AP |
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| 09:29.00 | RickHull | are you able to modulate and demodulate as necessary? |
| 09:29.26 | anddam | tp-link W8961ND |
| 09:29.36 | anddam | RickHull: I pretty much am |
| 09:29.58 | RickHull | what is your init string? kermit / xmodem / ymodem? |
| 09:30.04 | anddam | mostly by whistling |
| 09:30.12 | RickHull | slick! |
| 09:30.43 | anddam | I keep my modulation just as cool as I can |
| 09:30.45 | shay_shay | anddam: :( @ W8961ND |
| 09:31.25 | anddam | shay_shay: yea, and that was the best they had, I should really do some reasearch and buy something better on web |
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| 09:32.03 | shay_shay | anddam: if you are looking for a N device, i recommend this one for openwrt http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/tp-link/tl-wdr4300 |
| 09:32.11 | anddam | the main drawback on Mikrotik's side is they don't embed a modem, so you need another device and at home that's a bit annoying |
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| 09:32.44 | anddam | oh that's very reasonable |
| 09:32.50 | anddam | single device for ~50 bucks |
| 09:33.06 | anddam | but enough with the OT |
| 09:33.44 | anddam | apropos the gaming question I made earlier: redeclipse is in Debian's repo |
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| 09:33.56 | shay_shay | i just bought one a few weeks ago to replace my asus n66u which supposedly has better specs. this performs better in my experience, better signal strength and 100% up time |
| 09:33.56 | anddam | I looked for ~sgames~dfps |
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| 09:34.09 | anddam | good |
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| 09:35.19 | hiexpo | shay_shay, i think he was trying to run metasploit off that rasp. and was following a tut. |
| 09:35.45 | shay_shay | lol |
| 09:35.46 | anddam | shay_shay: did you have a chance to compare with the TL-WDR3600 |
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| 09:36.33 | shay_shay | anddam: I didnt because the 4300 is the top of the remaining N line... but a friend of mine has a WDR3600 with openwrt and he says its good |
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| 09:37.29 | anddam | shay_shay: I asked as the latter for me has amazon prime |
| 09:37.51 | anddam | the former doesn't, the price difference is negligible |
| 09:37.54 | hiexpo | is the wrt54 still good or obsolete? |
| 09:38.01 | anddam | also TP-link Archer C2 |
| 09:38.04 | shay_shay | looks like its the same thing but without the 5ghz modem |
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| 09:38.15 | shay_shay | oh |
| 09:38.20 | shay_shay | nvm it has 5ghz modem |
| 09:38.53 | anddam | hiexpo: idk but I see first firmware for wdr3600 is 2007 so competition isn't that recent |
| 09:39.26 | anddam | oh my bad |
| 09:39.28 | anddam | 2012/07 |
| 09:39.38 | anddam | practice more reading |
| 09:40.21 | shay_shay | i doubt you could go wrong with either |
| 09:40.25 | hiexpo | looks like they are still selling them wow |
| 09:40.30 | jelly | wonders what access points firmware has to do with Debian |
| 09:40.39 | anddam | jelly: nothing, really |
| 09:40.49 | jelly | move it to #debian-offtopic, then, please |
| 09:40.51 | anddam | I apologize for releasing the ap-hounds |
| 09:41.00 | shay_shay | jelly: sorry |
| 09:41.14 | hiexpo | jelly, sorries |
| 09:41.15 | anddam | back to wicd, shall we? |
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| 09:42.03 | anddam | can you point me at docs about manually configuring a wifi WPA2 client in /etc/network/interfaces ? I'd like to check if I get more luck theere |
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| 09:44.00 | shay_shay | anddam: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
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| 09:44.46 | jelly | anddam: zless /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz |
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| 09:45.37 | RickHull | fedora++ |
| 09:46.12 | anddam | RickHull: nice |
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| 09:48.11 | RickHull | tips hat |
| 09:48.30 | anddam | and we're airborne |
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| 09:48.46 | RickHull | off we go, into the wild blue yonder |
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| 09:51.53 | anddam | that's... odd |
| 09:52.09 | anddam | is that spamming or what? |
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| 09:52.50 | RickHull | hasta la vista, baby |
| 09:52.59 | anddam | I'm not giving them the satisfaction of going and look what the site is about |
| 09:53.31 | anddam | that'd be rewarding the behavior, I wonder how spamming on IRC is effective |
| 09:53.48 | RickHull | it's not, i'm sure |
| 09:54.07 | RickHull | about as effective as those jerkoffs sending me paper mail |
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| 09:56.13 | anddam | without rebooting or anything I was trying to use wicd to connect to the wifi network, without success. Then I clicked the icon that was already there in system tray (if I'm not wrong about calling it that way) and it had a wifi "not connected" entry as well |
| 09:56.33 | anddam | I used this second "manager" that was there before I installed wicd and it just worked |
| 09:56.46 | anddam | how's it called? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4576782/Selection_003.jpg |
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| 09:58.25 | anddam | I think it was there by default with lxde |
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| 10:02.03 | anddam | I'd very much like to remap esc-f and esc-b sequence, is this a matter of the terminal emulator or what? |
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| 10:05.20 | shay_shay | anddam: network-manager |
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| 10:05.49 | SynrG | anddam: specifically, network-manager-gnome gives you nmcli. works fine with lxde |
| 10:05.54 | SynrG | purge wicd, then install that |
| 10:06.03 | SynrG | should autostart on next login |
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| 10:06.20 | anddam | SynrG: "that" being nmcli, right? |
| 10:06.29 | SynrG | install network-manager-gnome |
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| 10:06.43 | SynrG | then nmcli will autostart on next login |
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| 10:07.16 | anddam | I already have network-manager-gnome installed |
| 10:07.21 | anddam | ii network-manager-gnome 0.9.10.0-2 amd64 network management framework (GNOME frontend) |
| 10:07.41 | SynrG | that would explain why wicd doesn't work very well :) |
| 10:07.45 | SynrG | you can't have both |
| 10:07.58 | SynrG | make sure wicd both frontend and backend are purged |
| 10:08.10 | anddam | how's the backend called? |
| 10:08.16 | SynrG | beats me |
| 10:08.20 | SynrG | i'm not a wicd user |
| 10:08.32 | SynrG | anything with 'wicd' in the name i guess |
| 10:08.38 | anddam | I installed with "aptitude install wicd", running "aptitude purge wicd" only shows the "wicd" package is going to be removed |
| 10:08.59 | SynrG | there's wicd-gtk |
| 10:09.03 | anddam | wicd-daemon by dpkg -l |
| 10:09.16 | SynrG | wicd-cli, wicd-kde, etc. |
| 10:09.35 | anddam | shouldn't the apt uninstall of a package take care of removing dependencies that aren't used anymore? |
| 10:09.46 | hiexpo | no |
| 10:09.48 | SynrG | if something else still recommends, it might be retained |
| 10:09.55 | SynrG | aptitude why wicd-gtk |
| 10:10.02 | SynrG | or aptitude why wicd-daemon |
| 10:10.15 | anddam | i wicd Depends wicd-gtk (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) | wicd-curses (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) | wicd-client |
| 10:10.17 | hiexpo | apt-get autoclean |
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| 10:10.39 | SynrG | hiexpo: aptitude normally takes care of that itself |
| 10:11.07 | hiexpo | SynrG, true forgot that |
| 10:11.12 | anddam | not in this case tho, I remember these wicd-* packages being installed by "install wicd", now if I uninstall wicd only "wicd" package is removed |
| 10:11.13 | SynrG | hiexpo: it is true apt-get purge wicd doesn't remove autoinstalled deps and you need apt-get autoclean, but it's different with aptitude which is what anddam said |
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| 10:11.47 | anddam | yep, I remember several years ago someone told me here "just go with aptitude" |
| 10:11.59 | anddam | I've been happily doing so since |
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| 10:12.32 | anddam | so in this case how do I make sure aptitude is cleaning the deps? |
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| 10:12.55 | anddam | I mean right now I can do it manually but I'd like to understand the mechanics and also learn a useful habit for the future |
| 10:12.56 | SynrG | as i said, use aptitude why to examine why each one is there |
| 10:13.20 | anddam | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:13.22 | anddam | i wicd Depends wicd-daemon (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) |
| 10:13.33 | SynrG | so you still have wicd installed? |
| 10:13.40 | SynrG | purge wicd, then aptitude why again is what i meant |
| 10:13.47 | anddam | oh ok |
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| 10:14.17 | anddam | I expected the confirmation step of "purge wicd" to show also the deps that were going to be removed as well |
| 10:14.37 | SynrG | sure. and they normally would, unless something else depended on them ... |
| 10:14.44 | SynrG | but aptitude why stops at the 'most likely' reason |
| 10:15.00 | SynrG | once you eliminate that reason, aptitude why might tell you something different |
| 10:15.01 | anddam | now id wicd-gtk Depends wicd-daemon (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) |
| 10:15.13 | SynrG | and aptitude why wicd-gtk? |
| 10:15.15 | anddam | so let's see why wicd-gtk is there |
| 10:15.18 | anddam | one mom :-) |
| 10:15.19 | SynrG | yep |
| 10:15.32 | aypea[0] | is setting up a minty-fresh laptop and is wondering if jessie+systemd copes well with a separate / and /usr setup or not. |
| 10:15.36 | anddam | also I'm slow since the keybaord is different from what I'm used to |
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| 10:15.47 | anddam | and I'd really like to remap those escape sequences |
| 10:15.54 | jelly | aypea[0]: it does, but wth would you want a separate /usr |
| 10:16.18 | aypea[0] | jelly: in part, 10+ years of doing it and seperation anxiety :) |
| 10:16.29 | anddam | id wicd-daemon Recommends wicd-gtk (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) | wicd-curses (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) | wicd-cli (= 1.7.2.4-4.1) | wicd-client |
| 10:16.35 | hiexpo | so when jesse gets release do we loose support here in whezzy |
| 10:16.37 | aypea[0] | well. 15+ years |
| 10:16.42 | jelly | I think you mean "joint venture anxiety" |
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| 10:17.10 | anddam | sounds like a recursion issue |
| 10:17.11 | jelly | aypea[0]: maybe it's time to fix your broken workflow. |
| 10:17.17 | aypea[0] | jelly: depends on your point of view. :) |
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| 10:17.29 | anddam | wicd-daemon is there because wicd-gtk depends on it, and wicd-gtk is there because wicd-daemon recommends it |
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| 10:17.40 | SynrG | circular! |
| 10:17.42 | SynrG | whoopeee :) |
| 10:17.56 | jelly | clearly you need to remove both at the same time |
| 10:17.58 | SynrG | sounds like the wicd maintainer is making things extra special fun for users |
| 10:18.06 | aypea[0] | you're not having circular fun until it's a build dependency :) |
| 10:18.21 | anddam | jelly: and how's the user supposed to know that? |
| 10:18.39 | SynrG | the way you just found out |
| 10:18.45 | jelly | anddam: we just told them so! |
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| 10:18.47 | anddam | jelly: I mean as end user I think something's off, I expected the whole package that came with wicd to go away with an uninstall |
| 10:18.58 | aypea[0] | tis a shame the devs of wicd gave up on it. liked it more than nm. :/ |
| 10:19.01 | SynrG | sure. and that would've normally been the case |
| 10:19.09 | SynrG | but it's how deps and autoinstalls work |
| 10:19.16 | SynrG | it fails in this corner case. |
| 10:19.16 | jelly | anddam: a user might think that, except Recommends only go one way, not the other |
| 10:19.51 | anddam | can I use regexp in aptitude's args? |
| 10:19.58 | shay_shay | What about --auto-remove .. I use apt-get's --autoremove counterpart all the time |
| 10:20.04 | jelly | apt does not track which package caused the Recommends to be satisfied, and which did not |
| 10:20.08 | anddam | like uninstall '~n^wicdì |
| 10:20.19 | anddam | err '~n^wicd' |
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| 10:21.25 | aypea[0] | oooh. i think debian has started mounting /usr at root mount time. |
| 10:21.27 | Lope | If I rent a dedicated server, how can I know if the host admins can just casually log into it any time they feel like it? |
| 10:21.54 | anddam | Lope: they most likely can |
| 10:22.17 | hiexpo | i see no depends just go away look in synaptic after uninstall |
| 10:22.23 | SynrG | hiexpo: no. wheezy continues to be supported as 'oldstable' for a while |
| 10:22.27 | jelly | Lope: you put a measure of trust in the people having access to the hardware you use |
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| 10:22.41 | jelly | Lope: there's no way around it |
| 10:22.42 | SynrG | however, once jessie releases, the longer you wait, the more we tend to stress 'you really should upgrade' |
| 10:22.47 | hiexpo | SynrG, ok kool thanks |
| 10:22.51 | SynrG | and the more people forget about how wheezy used to work |
| 10:23.04 | SynrG | so your actual support experience degrades over time |
| 10:23.40 | anddam | shay_shay: do you mean the aptitude's counterpart to apt-get's autoremove? |
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| 10:24.21 | shay_shay | anddam: no I mean --auto-remove and --autoremove |
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| 10:25.08 | hiexpo | or use bleachbit with caution |
| 10:25.18 | anddam | shay_shay: that don't have an aptitude's counterpart, right? |
| 10:25.42 | anddam | I cannot find --autoremove |
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| 10:25.59 | Lope | well i know that if they shut the dedicated server down they can gain root access. But what about while it's running? I don't want it to be easy for them to casually log in over the network? |
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| 10:26.16 | anddam | shay_shay: "If the command is either install or remove, then this option acts like running the autoremove command, removing unused dependency packages." I ran apt-get autoremove and it got rid of the old kernel package |
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| 10:26.20 | anddam | 3.2.0 |
| 10:26.20 | SynrG | anddam: shay_shay is confusing you by mentioning apt-get's option, --auto-remove, and then further confusing you by mentioning a non-existent --autoremove by which i think he means 'apt-get autoremove' |
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| 10:27.01 | SynrG | so in any case, since they all basically behave the same, there's no reason one would work any better than the other |
| 10:27.12 | SynrG | it fundamentally comes down to: |
| 10:27.17 | SynrG | <jelly> apt does not track which package caused the Recommends to be satisfied, and which did not |
| 10:27.22 | anddam | SynrG: I figured that by checking the man |
| 10:27.43 | anddam | I mean what's existing and whatnot, and the "autoremove" command |
| 10:28.08 | SynrG | there's only one solution to this problem, and that is to not have a circular dependency |
| 10:28.11 | shay_shay | SynrG: no I thought apt-get had --autoremove ... I wasn't talking about autoremove |
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| 10:28.24 | hiexpo | sudo apptitude autoremove |
| 10:28.27 | SynrG | shay_shay: man pages are great for figuring out these things :) |
| 10:28.28 | shay_shay | But yeah it has to have a dash in the middle |
| 10:28.48 | shay_shay | I wasn't figuring it out I simply misspoke |
| 10:28.48 | hiexpo | ops forgot slash |
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| 10:28.57 | DoctorD90 | hi guys. I have a small problem. I use a live distro of a based-debian distro. I have tried to use a networked printer in my office. It is linked trougth ethernet to network, with its own IP. it seems to work, but i have to print PDF, it prints a page with "use acrobat to print pdf directly".... it is there some pakage to install to solve issue? |
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| 10:29.21 | SynrG | DoctorD90: which distro? |
| 10:29.31 | hiexpo | DoctorD90, based or is debian? |
| 10:29.39 | DoctorD90 | ehm...kali linux :P |
| 10:29.48 | SynrG | !kali |
| 10:29.49 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 10:29.50 | hiexpo | !kali |
| 10:30.07 | hiexpo | hehe |
| 10:30.11 | Krakakanok | xD |
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| 10:30.41 | Artej | #told |
| 10:30.53 | DoctorD90 | ah....i thougth it was based debian= i can ask here...btw, this is an error connected to some package or to some config if i can ask this? |
| 10:31.02 | nath | morning all, I can not log into my user account anymore, when I log in with GUI, login with terminal works, any idea anyone? |
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| 10:31.44 | anddam | hiexpo: /join #weechat |
| 10:31.45 | DoctorD90 | (in the end,i followed how-to for cups, for debian...so i think that you may know :) sorry if i wrong) |
| 10:31.51 | anddam | typo |
| 10:31.59 | anddam | hiexpo: that wasn't meant to you |
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| 10:32.18 | hiexpo | anddam, ok |
| 10:32.30 | nath | anddam: no, i truied about 10 times |
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| 10:33.55 | anddam | nath: I believe you |
| 10:34.57 | nath | also the behaviour is different then when I type the pw incorrect, it looks as if it was accepted, but then the login screen comes back after a second of black screen |
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| 10:35.23 | nath | logiin on the F1 terminal and ssh worked straight away |
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| 10:39.08 | nath | I'm getting a bit nervous about it ;-[] |
| 10:39.28 | SynrG | shay_shay: sure. didn't mean to come down hard on you. i've just learned as i age to consult man pages more *before* answering questions to save myself the embarrassment :p |
| 10:39.53 | SynrG | i'm constantly finding that way the things i was sure i knew i didn't really have everything right |
| 10:40.03 | L0aD1nG | does anyone know what is the proper way of installing "grsecurity" ? |
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| 10:40.28 | L0aD1nG | I found this package "linux-patch-grsecurity2" on the official repos |
| 10:40.41 | L0aD1nG | installing it doesn't seem to patch the kernel though. |
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| 10:41.13 | hiexpo | !patch |
| 10:41.13 | dpkg | i heard patch is just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1' |
| 10:41.15 | SynrG | L0aD1nG: did you read its docs? |
| 10:41.21 | L0aD1nG | yea |
| 10:41.25 | SynrG | and? |
| 10:41.32 | L0aD1nG | I actually don't need to read their docs... |
| 10:41.37 | L0aD1nG | to apply a patch |
| 10:41.49 | L0aD1nG | the thing is here.. that there is a package on the repos already... |
| 10:41.56 | SynrG | i think reading the docs would tell you why merely installing the package failed to meet your expectation |
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| 10:42.13 | L0aD1nG | and in the most cases (if not in every case) its better to install the repo's package right? |
| 10:42.18 | hiexpo | then so beith don't need to read |
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| 10:42.44 | nath | I changed the user PW via terminal, worked, still canot loggin via GUI! |
| 10:43.15 | jelly | L0aD1nG: unfortunately that patch is horribly old. If you want to build a grsecurity-enabled kernel, get an up to date patch from http://grsecurity.net and get a matching vanilla kernel. |
| 10:43.20 | L0aD1nG | this -> https://tinyurl.com/m7t4xoo ? |
| 10:43.48 | L0aD1nG | jelly: the latest patch is for the latest stable kernel right? |
| 10:43.59 | SynrG | L0aD1nG: did you at least read the package description? |
| 10:44.20 | L0aD1nG | yes |
| 10:44.37 | SynrG | "Furthermore, this patch will NOT apply to Debian kernels. You will have to use vanilla kernel sources to apply this patch. Reasons are documented in README contained within the package." |
| 10:44.37 | jelly | L0aD1nG: it should be clear from the patch filename which kernel you're supposed to use with it. |
| 10:44.40 | SynrG | did you read this part? |
| 10:45.17 | jelly | just don't use the 6-months old thing from Debian. It really ought to be removed from the repo. |
| 10:45.42 | hiexpo | SynrG, he said he does not need toread to apply a patch |
| 10:45.50 | L0aD1nG | right, jelly. Yes SynrG I read it. |
| 10:46.10 | L0aD1nG | hiexpo: I said I don't need to read "THEIR" docs to learn the command for patching.. |
| 10:46.54 | L0aD1nG | the latest stable is for 3.14 and 3.19 one is testing. |
| 10:47.04 | jelly | L0aD1nG: and also for 3.2.68 |
| 10:47.09 | SynrG | very well. it's just that when you came here asking how, it seemed you hadn't. in any case, jelly is steering you in the right direction |
| 10:48.05 | L0aD1nG | yea... I am on backports, and I am enjoying since 3.16 kernel came in. |
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| 10:49.14 | jelly | L0aD1nG: you'll have to use either longterm 3.2 or longterm 3.14 tree to match what grsec people support |
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| 10:49.49 | L0aD1nG | jelly: to install it on 3.16? |
| 10:49.59 | jelly | there is no grsec for 3.16 |
| 10:50.05 | L0aD1nG | mm |
| 10:50.23 | L0aD1nG | so I either go on 3.14 or can't use it.. |
| 10:50.31 | jelly | or 3.2, yes |
| 10:50.36 | trae32566[w] | L0aD1nG: why do you need grsec |
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| 10:51.47 | L0aD1nG | trae32566[w]: why do you think I am? |
| 10:51.58 | trae32566[w] | uh... |
| 10:52.16 | trae32566[w] | A. I have no idea, and B. you said 'am', not 'do'. |
| 10:52.47 | L0aD1nG | correct, well english is not my mother tongue |
| 10:52.53 | trae32566[w] | I was curious |
| 10:53.04 | trae32566[w] | you know GRSec is overkill for most use cases right? |
| 10:53.06 | trae32566[w] | well |
| 10:53.10 | trae32566[w] | for most cases |
| 10:53.21 | L0aD1nG | what do you mean? |
| 10:53.39 | jelly | L0aD1nG: grsec patchset brings a fairly complex set of changes and often requires changes in userspace or the way you use it. |
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| 10:53.59 | jelly | it's not something you plug in and forget |
| 10:54.04 | L0aD1nG | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:54.05 | trae32566[w] | ^^^ |
| 10:54.13 | L0aD1nG | ofc |
| 10:54.23 | trae32566[w] | L0aD1nG: it's a full time commitment, not just an install |
| 10:54.26 | trae32566[w] | http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/18924/is-server-hardening-with-grsecurity-really-necessary-on-the-centos-6-3-environme |
| 10:54.27 | L0aD1nG | it has a administration tool also available |
| 10:54.38 | L0aD1nG | gradm2 |
| 10:54.53 | jelly | L0aD1nG: so, when you come asking about how to apply it, naturally we think you have good reasons to |
| 10:55.13 | L0aD1nG | testing it, fairly good reason I guess. |
| 10:55.39 | trae32566[w] | see the SO post above |
| 10:55.42 | jelly | L0aD1nG: do you have multiuser machines? |
| 10:56.00 | L0aD1nG | jelly: what do you mean? |
| 10:56.06 | trae32566[w] | .-. |
| 10:56.24 | trae32566[w] | a machine that multiple users use with different accounts. |
| 10:56.26 | L0aD1nG | trae32566[w]: can you make a tinyurl for me lol |
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| 10:56.28 | jelly | L0aD1nG: servers with multiple users, possibly on public internet (that might benefit from grsec features) |
| 10:56.34 | L0aD1nG | ohhh by that mean |
| 10:56.47 | L0aD1nG | no |
| 10:56.58 | trae32566[w] | http://goo.gl/dQ6dU8 |
| 10:56.59 | L0aD1nG | I have not a server machine yet |
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| 10:57.33 | trae32566[w] | L0aD1nG: if you're just playing with it, I'd suggest reading the docs forward and backward, and trying it on whatever distro you plan on using |
| 10:57.33 | L0aD1nG | trae32566[w]: thanks man, I have not twiked urxvt for long links |
| 10:57.55 | trae32566[w] | <--- RedHat person |
| 10:58.04 | L0aD1nG | <--- Debian Person |
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| 10:58.17 | L0aD1nG | what are you doing on that channel Redhat Person :) ? |
| 10:58.19 | trae32566[w] | the other thing with GRSec, it's becoming less and less relevant as things like SELinux, AppArmor, and others begin to get more common |
| 10:58.26 | trae32566[w] | L0aD1nG: I help people |
| 10:58.30 | L0aD1nG | great |
| 10:58.37 | trae32566[w] | and I have debian questions because of $work sometimes |
| 10:59.13 | teraflop | trae32566[w]: oh boy selinux > grsec? yeah you definitely are a RH person |
| 10:59.20 | trae32566[w] | I dunno much about AppArmor, but most people are stupid and blindly disable SELinux and enable GRSec, which is idiotic |
| 10:59.21 | trae32566[w] | no |
| 10:59.23 | trae32566[w] | no no no |
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| 10:59.34 | trae32566[w] | in no way is it better, that's apples to oranges |
| 10:59.39 | L0aD1nG | GRSec is better than SELinux and AppArmor, it is actually a subtotal of them |
| 10:59.47 | trae32566[w] | nope. |
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| 10:59.54 | L0aD1nG | by far.. |
| 11:00.11 | jelly | L0aD1nG: I don't think you can make that assessment given the low amount experience |
| 11:00.15 | trae32566[w] | ^^^ |
| 11:00.25 | trae32566[w] | again, apples to oranges. SELinux and AppArmor provide features that GRSec does not, and GRSec provides features that SELinux and AppArmor do not |
| 11:00.31 | trae32566[w] | thing is though |
| 11:00.51 | trae32566[w] | most people use GRSec because of RBAC, and they don't realize that SELinux has RBAC as well as MAC |
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| 11:00.56 | jelly | (grsec has its own RBAC but that's just one of the features) |
| 11:01.25 | jelly | trae32566[w]: I wouldn't say "most" or even "many" grsec users choose it for rbac |
| 11:01.28 | L0aD1nG | well even though I've tinkers with both on vms for fairly enough time (lets not even count that). Only the fact that the Grsecurity project contains security topics that SElinux doesn't it proofs that it is a subtotal. |
| 11:01.35 | L0aD1nG | tinkered* |
| 11:01.43 | L0aD1nG | right? |
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| 11:01.57 | trae32566[w] | jelly: eh, that's just IME the biggest thing people brag about with GRSec |
| 11:01.58 | trae32566[w] | and no |
| 11:02.00 | trae32566[w] | not right |
| 11:02.15 | trae32566[w] | they're two separate things, designed for two separate use cases that happen to overlap |
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| 11:02.30 | trae32566[w] | GRSec does not confine things in the way that SELinux does |
| 11:02.43 | jelly | L0aD1nG: in any case, if you want to try it, go with what's available on the grsec site |
| 11:02.55 | jelly | not the obsolete patch in debian |
| 11:03.04 | L0aD1nG | jelly: Yea I got that. |
| 11:03.37 | trae32566[w] | L0aD1nG: there's a reason Redhat, Android, and many others ship SELinux enforcing :) |
| 11:03.40 | hiexpo | won't work he will see depends |
| 11:03.53 | trae32566[w] | hiexpo: that's the fun part! |
| 11:03.55 | L0aD1nG | trae32566[w]: thats not an argument really. |
| 11:04.06 | SynrG | totally ignorant of grsec here. is there an easy way to take a system with grsec applied and switch it out? reboot to a plain kernel? ... |
| 11:04.06 | L0aD1nG | claiming facts and "experts" make me bored. |
| 11:04.23 | jelly | SynrG: yes. |
| 11:04.26 | SynrG | the reason i ask is, in case of a support question where we suspect "user has shot self in foot with grsec" this is important |
| 11:04.31 | hiexpo | we do this we right this |
| 11:04.41 | trae32566[w] | wow |
| 11:04.43 | trae32566[w] | wait a minute |
| 11:05.16 | trae32566[w] | so the guy asking for help with GRSec, the thing he can't even configure and install, or read the docs on, is telling us we're wrong and he's right ... clearly you must not need help ... |
| 11:05.50 | hiexpo | tell me your errors L0aD1nG bet it's gonna be lib6 |
| 11:05.52 | jelly | trae32566[w]: yes, it's silly. Try not to get into it and keep to tech issues. |
| 11:05.56 | L0aD1nG | wtf? can you quote me saying this "is telling us we are wrong and he's right" ? |
| 11:06.01 | L0aD1nG | do you even read mate? |
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| 11:06.23 | L0aD1nG | I said claim facts like "Google uses SELinux" doesn't proof that it is better... |
| 11:06.25 | SynrG | L0aD1nG, trae32566[w]: cool it. please don't make this personal. |
| 11:06.27 | L0aD1nG | thats plain logic. |
| 11:06.35 | trae32566[w] | I rightfully admit I'm not the best in the world with grsec, but I know enough to say that it is not a 1:1 comparison with either SELinux or AppArmor; however, the features (RBAC) overlap |
| 11:06.35 | jelly | L0aD1nG: same goes for you. Let's keep this channel for tech support of issues in Debian, not bickering about who said what. |
| 11:06.36 | L0aD1nG | no I don't really. |
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| 11:07.28 | L0aD1nG | okay jelly, I didn't claim that it is better I said that from what I read it seems a subtotal of the others to me. |
| 11:07.43 | trae32566[w] | L0aD1nG: sorry for being blunt, but your comment above really pissed me off "claiming facts and "experts" make me bored." |
| 11:07.50 | trae32566[w] | ^^ very insulting |
| 11:07.56 | L0aD1nG | trae32566[w]: yea |
| 11:08.01 | L0aD1nG | well |
| 11:08.01 | trae32566[w] | especially to people trying to help :/ |
| 11:08.09 | L0aD1nG | sorry, I didn't want to make it sound like that |
| 11:08.42 | SynrG | k. back on track? i found the discussion of pros / cons of the alternatives interesting, at least. |
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| 11:09.02 | SynrG | but have misgivings for the future of support questions from L0aD1nG if you do implement this |
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| 11:09.43 | SynrG | so try to remember if you encounter "strange" behaviours probably very few people here know or care. and the first thing to try is fall back to supported kernel |
| 11:09.58 | TheGrimFandango | hi |
| 11:09.59 | hiexpo | pro's first con's first : |
| 11:10.14 | SynrG | i.e. see upstream for support questions if-and-when things go pear-shaped |
| 11:10.24 | trae32566[w] | lol pear-shaped |
| 11:10.29 | trae32566[w] | what does that even mean |
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| 11:11.07 | SynrG | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear-shaped |
| 11:11.31 | SynrG | trae32566[w]: third meaning, "Failure" |
| 11:12.00 | trae32566[w] | interesting |
| 11:12.03 | trae32566[w] | I've never heard that |
| 11:12.19 | TheGrimFandango | rc2 is out? If it is, is there any reason I couldn't install it and upgrade to jessie proper when it's released? |
| 11:12.26 | SynrG | canadian here. we like to borrow figures of speech from the UK sometimes :) |
| 11:12.38 | hiexpo | exactly SynrG failure |
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| 11:13.03 | SynrG | TheGrimFandango: go for it |
| 11:13.13 | TheGrimFandango | what's required to switch to stable when it's released? |
| 11:13.15 | SynrG | TheGrimFandango: the usual caveats about testing, though: |
| 11:13.16 | SynrG | !testing |
| 11:13.17 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 11:13.26 | SynrG | TheGrimFandango: although the risk is diminished this close to the release. |
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| 11:13.43 | SynrG | TheGrimFandango: nothing. it should go to stable by default |
| 11:13.53 | SynrG | TheGrimFandango: check your /etc/apt/sources.list ... it should say 'jessie', not 'testing' |
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| 11:14.03 | SynrG | when jessie releases, you'll be on stable |
| 11:14.16 | TheGrimFandango | ok. that sounds ideal. |
| 11:14.27 | TheGrimFandango | I'll give it a go. |
| 11:14.46 | SynrG | TheGrimFandango: a) don't forget to read release notes and b) please file an installation report |
| 11:14.50 | SynrG | as per: |
| 11:14.55 | SynrG | !install testing |
| 11:14.55 | dpkg | Daily built <netinst> images to install <testing> are available from http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ . The chance of the testing installer being broken on any given day is quite high. Instead, do a minimal installation using the stable installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Also ask me about <testing installer>, <apt-listchanges>, <d-d-a>. |
| 11:15.13 | SynrG | the URL above ^^ (note at bottom tells how to file one, iirc) |
| 11:15.39 | SynrG | http://d-i.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch05s04.html#submit-bug |
| 11:16.51 | TheGrimFandango | thanks |
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| 11:18.08 | SynrG | TheGrimFandango: ah, not just the release notes but read the errata, also linked from the www.d.o/devel/debian-installer page |
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| 11:19.39 | dutchfish | points his bony old finger to containerclass security from the PaX spinnoff's |
| 11:19.46 | dutchfish | oops, wrong channel |
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| 11:35.21 | frizzi | hah |
| 11:35.26 | frizzi | this is funny |
| 11:35.30 | frizzi | so funny..... |
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| 11:42.19 | EffYouMetaleer | METALEER YOU FUCK |
| 11:42.31 | EffYouMetaleer | TROLOLOLOLOLO |
| 11:42.33 | EffYouMetaleer | AH LELELELELELELELELELELELE |
| 11:42.35 | EffYouMetaleer | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 11:42.39 | EffYouMetaleer | cums all over channel |
| 11:42.43 | Particularized | ok |
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| 11:43.07 | Metaleer | Heh. |
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| 11:44.13 | Krakakanok | xDD |
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| 11:48.55 | gecko_x2 | hi,, anyone have knowledge of debian booted over iscsi? |
| 11:49.37 | gecko_x2 | i have a proxmox node successfully booting from iscsi target |
| 11:50.09 | gecko_x2 | with static ip defined in grub kernel switches |
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| 11:50.51 | gecko_x2 | problem is i can't add a bridge to networking.. if i do the boot process halts at "setting up interfaces" |
| 11:51.28 | gecko_x2 | my guess is because it's trying to switch the ip over to another if and the iscsi connection to the target doesn't like that |
| 11:51.43 | beagleburt | !wheezy->jessie |
| 11:51.57 | gecko_x2 | so any tips or hints are welcome |
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| 12:21.17 | Bielecki | Hello. Anyone know how to fix "fatal IO error 2 (on X server ":1" " on Debian 7? |
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| 12:21.40 | Cullz | when does it occur? |
| 12:21.54 | Bielecki | When I try to run TeamSpeak3 3.0.16 |
| 12:22.03 | Bielecki | (client) |
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| 12:28.56 | tremon | Bielecki: error 2 is ENOENT, aka file not found. Is your X server really running on :1 ? |
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| 12:29.35 | Bielecki | Yup. I'm sure: New 'X' desktop is NiestetyOVH:1 |
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| 12:29.58 | ThomasFane | "Niestety" ^^ |
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| 12:30.15 | Bielecki | I see polish guys here :D |
| 12:30.22 | ThomasFane | bingo |
| 12:30.36 | Bielecki | "File not found" - but with file? :/ |
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| 12:32.20 | tremon | no, enoent can be returned for every name-based lookup. I have no idea what teamspeak is trying to do, maybe run it under strace |
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| 12:33.40 | Bielecki | Funny, version 3.0.13.1 (with API 19) works fine. Problem started with v. 3.0.14 and newer (with API 20) |
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| 12:35.53 | Bielecki | Someone said that changing libQt5* from 5.0.0 to 5.3.2 resolves problem, but I have no idea how to do that. |
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| 12:38.16 | tremon | qt 5.3.2 is in jessie, you'll need to dist-upgrade |
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| 12:38.48 | Krakakanok | jessie rulz! |
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| 12:39.00 | Bielecki | I'll try that |
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| 12:41.52 | tremon | !tell Bielecki -about wheezy->jessie |
| 12:42.29 | tremon | also, don't forget to backup |
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| 12:58.45 | cq-aux | heya just a quick question about apt-get,, I'd like to remove one package and [only] that package > how to do this please? |
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| 13:01.02 | anddam | back to that dependency issue with wicd-daemon and wicd-gtk is there a tool for detecting such a thing? |
| 13:01.27 | anddam | in other words to check the sanity of the set of currently installed packages |
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| 13:12.31 | blackflow | Hello. Question, with mdadm raid 10 across 4x1TB partitions (/dev/sd[abcd]1), how much space should be in the md device? 2GB or 1GB? |
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| 13:18.19 | anddam | what's a proper channel to ask info about Banshee media player? (on Debian ofc) |
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| 13:19.20 | anddam | namely I'm tryingt to use the banshee-extension-jamendo package, it browse jamendo web interface, then on "download" click it started a progress bar in bottom-left corner saying "Jamendo Downloads" "Importing..." but that's been there a while, way longer than a download would take |
| 13:19.30 | anddam | I wonder if and where there's a log of what Banshee's doing |
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| 13:20.51 | Bielecki | Have you tried to run Banshee from terminal? |
| 13:21.20 | anddam | oh wow, Banshee is old |
| 13:21.40 | anddam | Bielecki: no, i thought since I had the luxury of the DE I was going with the application menu |
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| 13:21.59 | anddam | now I'm not sure interrupting the "importing" would leave stray files or not |
| 13:22.12 | Bielecki | Try to do that. You should see Banshee log output in terminal |
| 13:22.13 | ompaul | anddam: http://banshee.fm/support/ |
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| 13:27.41 | anddam | nope, just a few "@6: ReferenceError: Can't find variable: Jamendo_ENV" and a suprising "[Info 15:25:37.948] GNOME screensaver service not found" |
| 13:27.48 | anddam | is Banshee part of GNOME? |
| 13:28.04 | anddam | ompaul: checking that |
| 13:28.22 | anddam | but now on banshee reboot I don't get the download progress bar anymore while trying to download |
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| 13:28.44 | Billias | good morning Debian community |
| 13:29.21 | Billias | morning for me, sorry for that, |
| 13:29.27 | Billias | Hello community is better!. |
| 13:29.41 | Billias | I would like to create a network installer for my debian, for systems that doesn't have internet access. |
| 13:29.55 | Billias | to install the basic system with some ssh |
| 13:30.58 | Billias | when I create an pxe boot, and use dvd content as http target, it doesn't work. I found out, the system calls some files that only on http mirror exist. |
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| 13:31.23 | Billias | Is there any way with the PREseed, to point on my source, and force it to read it as the base cd/dvd? |
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| 13:33.49 | ompaul | Billias: this is really what you want to see https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual |
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| 13:36.29 | Billias | does it have also every command that debianinstaller has? |
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| 13:39.24 | ompaul | Billias: like you I wouldn't know. |
| 13:39.52 | alfatau | hello all. I need help for solving a really annoying problem: after reboot xorg does not save xrandr settings. After xrandr setup and having added the right (I think) .conf to /etc/X11/xorg.d/, if i reboot the system it starts with different preferences. In fact, the real problem is the monitor order (left of) is inverted. can you help me? |
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| 13:42.50 | ThomasFane | have You tried Arandr? |
| 13:44.09 | alfatau | ThomasFane: no I didn't. what's the advantage? |
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| 13:44.55 | ThomasFane | You add the monitor to the right and You are certain of it. It has a gui. |
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| 13:46.30 | alfatau | ThomasFane: ok I can try. will it help to save the setting for the next reboot? I'm able to get a right setup also with using xrandr. |
| 13:46.55 | ThomasFane | yes, it should |
| 13:47.23 | alfatau | ThomasFane: ok, I'm going to try. thank you. |
| 13:47.41 | ThomasFane | hth |
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| 13:52.11 | belowzero | hi guys, anyone got experience using linux computer + google-chrome + google cast? my linux pc is not finding chromecast while it works well from android phone. |
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| 14:00.26 | belowzero | I have tested with google-chrome stable and unstable and with the app google cast stable and unstable. still it will not find the chromecast and no idea why |
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| 14:04.55 | mtn | belowzero: don't you need to add a plugin or extension or whatever it is called to chrome? |
| 14:05.02 | aypea[0] | has anyone installed jessie on uefi system? does it handle dual boot well? |
| 14:05.13 | ompaul | belowzero: search for this in a search engine google cast linux chrome |
| 14:06.39 | ompaul | !uefi |
| 14:06.39 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
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| 14:09.11 | tremon | aypea[0]: what is "it"? the installer, debian, or uefi? |
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| 14:11.32 | belowzero | mtn: yes. as I said. tested with "the app google cast stable and unstable" on two different chrome versions. |
| 14:13.06 | mtn | belowzero: ok, wasn't clear to me. the google forums might have some help |
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| 14:14.41 | belowzero | ompaul: very helpful. done that, and my setup should be working well according to google, and all posts I have read. |
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| 14:15.59 | ompaul | belowzero: I got a does not work in all cases |
| 14:16.00 | aypea[0] | tremon: sorry. rc2 installer for jessie |
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| 14:17.42 | somiaj | aypea[0]: wheezy was able to do uefi too, so I expect jessie has the same support for it if not better. The only issue I recall in whezzy was the images can boot eithe efi or legacy, so make sure you boot into efi and your efi partition is big enough for the boot info for multiple oses. |
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| 14:18.11 | belowzero | ompaul: hmm, but there must be some way to make things work? :) tested two versions of google chrome and two versions of plugin :| |
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| 14:19.41 | tremon | aypea[0]: the installer will detect the efi partition fine, and will not overwrite anything on that partition. So it should not break other setups. Whether other OS'es will be added to grub's menu, I don't know |
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| 14:19.46 | teraflop | belowzero: you mean doing this? http://mediagoblin.teraflops.info/u/teraflops/m/chromecast/ |
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| 14:20.33 | tremon | aypea[0]: strictly speaking, that last part isn't necessary because uefi should already include a boot selector, but grub likely works better |
| 14:20.55 | aypea[0] | tremon: Well I turned secure boot off and made sure that uefi only boot method was turned on (no fallback) so I guess this is where I hope my underpants will contain the damage. :) |
| 14:21.20 | rm-rf | why debian jessie use systemd ?? |
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| 14:21.46 | somiaj | rm-rf: because debian wants to support multiple init systems. debian jessie also uses sysv-init so use the one you like best. |
| 14:22.57 | Bielecki | tremon: I updated OS, and now I have other error: http://pastebin.com/Gpw3PsHf |
| 14:23.01 | aypea[0] | indeed. I'll be flying systemd on desktop and other boxes at home but non-systemd on servers at work. one to learn and the other for stability (I've already had issues installing some stuff). |
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| 14:24.02 | somiaj | aypea[0]: did you test out teh jessie installer, did they add the option to choose the init system during the install or do you still have to install sysvinit after installing a minimial system with systemd first? |
| 14:24.17 | tremon | Bielecki: well, have you tried reinstalling the application? |
| 14:24.23 | aypea[0] | somiaj: no choice given thus far |
| 14:24.37 | tremon | aypea[0]: the installer will not ask |
| 14:24.42 | aypea[0] | somiaj: I'm at the install grub stage and wondering if fortified underpants are in order. |
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| 14:25.05 | tremon | somiaj: the installer will not ask, it will install systemd |
| 14:25.12 | aypea[0] | tremon: I know. I think it's a poor call for the expert install option. normal, fly with whatever works best for desktop. |
| 14:25.24 | somiaj | tremon: Okay, yea I haven't tested. I just heard they were taking about adding such a feature. Looks like it wasn't |
| 14:25.38 | rm-rf | when debian will use default wayland? |
| 14:25.56 | tremon | rm-rf: when gnome starts depending on it, methinks |
| 14:26.06 | jelly | rm-rf: "when it's ready" |
| 14:26.22 | Bielecki | tremon: yup, I tried that, if you mean TeamSpeak. Otherwise I don't know what app I have to reinstall. |
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| 14:27.04 | tremon | Bielecki: yes, that (assuming that's what gave you the error). You may need to ask on a teamspeak or qt5 channel, I use neither |
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| 14:28.03 | jelly | rm-rf: in general, debian sticks to safe, conservative defaults and does not make intrusive changes without very good reasons |
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| 14:28.45 | Bielecki | tremon: ok, thank you :) I try to solve this with Google, etc. You have helped me a lot. Have a nice day ;) |
| 14:28.45 | somiaj | and those changes are usually tested for a while in unstable/testing, if you want to keep an eye of what may hit the next relese. |
| 14:29.35 | rm-rf | thank you |
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| 14:32.26 | Lope | on my dedicated server should I always run my web hosting from a VM (to make it easy to move around) or will I lose too much performance doing that? |
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| 14:33.00 | Lope | also it helps with security, so that if the VM gets hacked the whole hostnode doesn't get compromised. |
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| 14:33.21 | aypea[0] | ok. it mounted /boot/efi - this gives me hope :) |
| 14:34.24 | iWaldo | i've set up my router's DHCP to always assign a server's MAC to the IP 192.168.0.150, but every time i boot the machine, ifconfig reports 192.168.0.100 and i have to change it manually to get any connectivity |
| 14:34.41 | rm-rf | how do I install with wayland weston on debian unstable? |
| 14:35.45 | somiaj | Lope: depends on your setup and needs. VM's do take a bit more overhead, but modern processors support virtulization a lot and if you don't need to maximize preformance I think you'll be just fine. |
| 14:35.59 | themill | rm-rf: the same way you install any other package |
| 14:36.03 | aypea[0] | here we go... |
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| 14:36.42 | aypea[0] | crap. it didn't detect the other os :( |
| 14:36.46 | somiaj | Lope: the other option is to look into lxc containers (belive this are secure like jails and unlike chroots). Xen is also a popular choice for what you are doing, but is a bit harder to setup than other virtulizations (in my very limited experince) |
| 14:36.53 | aypea[0] | well that's poo |
| 14:37.02 | somiaj | aypea[0]: dont' worry if the installer doens't detect the os. The os boot is handeled by the bios and should be fine. |
| 14:37.17 | somiaj | i.e. grub won't overwrite the other oses efi info, it will just add its own. |
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| 14:37.40 | Lope | somiaj: I'm familiar with KVM and OpenVZ |
| 14:37.56 | aypea[0] | somiaj: is it possible to tell grub about the other os so that it includes it into its menu under uefi? I know it's doable under "normal" bios boot. |
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| 14:38.25 | aypea[0] | whoa. fastest boot ever. I didn't even get a chance to acknowledge it booting manually before I got a login prompt |
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| 14:40.25 | somiaj | aypea[0]: I would think so, but I haven't messed with it, not sure if the other oses need special efi info to boot correctly and if grub will pass it on or not. |
| 14:40.37 | somiaj | aypea[0]: but this can be done after you get debian installed. |
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| 14:41.25 | rm-rf | weston-installing the software center opens a window with weston? |
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| 14:41.37 | aypea[0] | omiaj: already looking at the teeny-tiny text of a linux console on a... medium high dpi screen :) |
| 14:42.06 | aypea[0] | ok. I can still choose windows from the uefi "boot from other device" menu. |
| 14:42.30 | aypea[0] | hopefully grub'll work but if not, I'll live. |
| 14:43.05 | somiaj | aypea[0]: install the package os-prober see if it works. (: |
| 14:43.31 | mjt | uefi can boot from one of 2 "places": from one of firmware-recorded locations (the boot menu) or from a random device with efi boot partition. In the latter case it uses fixed filename to boot |
| 14:44.08 | mjt | so if you install grub to "other" media where, say, ms win is already installed, it is unlikely you'll be able to boot it |
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| 14:45.01 | mjt | uefi firmware always boots a fixed filename from "external" media. If you want a boot choice in a single media, use boot managers such as refind |
| 14:45.39 | mjt | (in which case it is refind who'll produce the menu, not the uefi firmware) |
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| 14:46.05 | polyphagia | fdisk didn't make it to jessie? |
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| 14:46.20 | somiaj | ,v fdisk |
| 14:46.20 | mjt | (the fixed filename is EFI/Boot/bootx64.efi, iirc) |
| 14:46.21 | judd | No package named 'fdisk' was found in i386. |
| 14:46.28 | polyphagia | ,v gnu-fdisk |
| 14:46.29 | judd | Package: gnu-fdisk on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.4-3; wheezy: 1.2.4-3.1; sid: 1.3.0a-1+b1 |
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| 14:46.39 | mjt | fdisk is part of util-linux package |
| 14:46.41 | somiaj | ,v util-linux |
| 14:46.44 | mjt | which is essential |
| 14:46.44 | judd | Package: util-linux on i386 -- squeeze: 2.17.2-9; wheezy: 2.20.1-5.3; jessie: 2.25.2-6; sid: 2.25.2-6 |
| 14:46.44 | polyphagia | ok thanks |
| 14:46.56 | somiaj | yea it is on my sid system so I assume the command is still there. |
| 14:46.59 | polyphagia | well no mjt |
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| 14:47.01 | polyphagia | i don't have it |
| 14:47.05 | polyphagia | bash: fdisk: command not found |
| 14:47.12 | mjt | it is |
| 14:47.13 | aypea[0] | somiaj: the os prober worked. I have windows boot manager in the grub menu and selecting it just booted windows. :) |
| 14:47.14 | polyphagia | but i do have util-linux |
| 14:47.16 | somiaj | polyphagia: are you running this as root or as a user. |
| 14:47.25 | polyphagia | oh lol ok thanks |
| 14:47.27 | aypea[0] | somiaj: all is right with the world, again. thanks! :) |
| 14:47.28 | mjt | and you do have it |
| 14:47.51 | somiaj | by default /sbin is not in a users path for good reasons |
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| 14:48.11 | aypea[0] | has dual boot the way it has always been. joy. tomorrow, desktop install time :) |
| 14:49.39 | somiaj | aypea[0]: my goal was to do away with grub, but I decieded not to figure out how to manage my own efi boot info. (: |
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| 14:51.15 | aypea[0] | somiaj: yeah I want to be able to backtrace through kernels and do other fun things so I'm happy to stick with grub. it has borne me no ill will thus far. :) |
| 14:51.42 | somiaj | aypea[0]: well ideally if you set up efi correctly it can have different boot options for each kernel. It just isn't as integrated as grub is to deal with this |
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| 14:51.47 | aypea[0] | mjt: the installer gave me the option to force grub into the removable area but I opted not to. I take it that is the 2nd place you're referring to? |
| 14:51.55 | shay_shay | Somiaj I wrote a script for swapping efi stubs... |
| 14:52.18 | shay_shay | It gets triggered by apt-get installing new kernel |
| 14:52.27 | aypea[0] | somiaj: I guess bia the "boot other device" menu (seeing as that had debian, windows and other actual devices listed (like cdrom)) |
| 14:52.48 | mjt | aypea[0]: I dunno. I just told you how uefi boot works |
| 14:53.55 | somiaj | shay_shay: nice, yea I'm not to that point yet. I have always been annoyed at boot managers and that efi is basically a boot manager means they may become a thing of the past. (might make less install problems too, grub seems to fail to install to much in my opinion) |
| 14:54.36 | aypea[0] | mjt: no worries. I'm just confused. it's late, i'm a few vodkas in and just faced the possibility of trashing the ability to boot my brand new laptop. :) |
| 14:54.42 | mjt | boot manager isn't needed for "simple" cases |
| 14:54.46 | blackflow | Guys need help. The parted on wheezy does not have disk_set option and I don't know how to set the disk option pmbr_boot, ie. bootable PMBR |
| 14:55.14 | mjt | bootable pmbr? |
| 14:55.26 | mjt | (what is pmbr anyway, is it vbr?) |
| 14:55.48 | blackflow | protective mbr |
| 14:56.14 | blackflow | it's what I need to get the gpt disk bootable under bios (non-efi machine) |
| 14:56.18 | aypea[0] | the mbr you have when you're having a gpt :) |
| 14:56.28 | shay_shay | It's ugly bash, I intend to rewrite it in python soon. https://gist.github.com/shawnbon206/52e7bdf717a487710940 |
| 14:56.41 | aypea[0] | blackflow: you actually need it? I thought it was just there to protect against s/w that assumes mbr |
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| 14:57.17 | blackflow | aypea[0]: I don't know for sure, I know the server won't boot without it, and another, with it, boots just fine. I don't know the error as I don't have access to the server and no KVM atm |
| 14:57.45 | blackflow | so I'm stabbing in the dark and trying to set up the machine as close as possible to this other one that boots fine. |
| 14:57.56 | aypea[0] | a fair call :) |
| 14:58.26 | aypea[0] | hey cool. this thing just asked me to agree to a licence, I didn't, hit ok and it went ahead anyway |
| 14:58.53 | shay_shay | Why is that cool |
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| 14:59.50 | aypea[0] | shay_shay: well, for one, if that's a legally binding method to get an agreement they just oked me not agreeing with it. |
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| 15:00.02 | blackflow | aypea[0]: according to some wikis, I need protective mbr on machines that don't understand gpt. it is possible that this server, being a few years old, doesn't understand gpt. |
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| 15:00.28 | jacky_Z | debian/unstable: bug: ssh-askpass is used since last updated |
| 15:01.25 | aypea[0] | blackflow: interesting. Wondering now how long ago I started using gpt by default. it may have been around squeeze time. |
| 15:01.33 | aypea[0] | blackflow: what servers are you using? |
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| 15:01.54 | blackflow | aypea[0]: xeons usually, but this one is a 2011 pentium |
| 15:02.35 | aypea[0] | blackflow: me too, Dell's though. Legacy BIOS, too (I tried UEFI once but their implementation crashed on me so I've not bothered since) |
| 15:02.50 | aypea[0] | and I'm pretty sure I was using GPT in 2011. |
| 15:03.21 | shay_shay | Coreboot is the bees knees |
| 15:03.34 | jacky_Z | this is compeltely unacceptable... it even steals the keyboard focus... and it asks for the password when a ssh-key was used before... |
| 15:03.43 | jacky_Z | this needs to be fixed before it leaves unstable... |
| 15:03.46 | aypea[0] | shay_shay: I've never had hardware cheap enough that was compatible for me to try it :) |
| 15:04.45 | jacky_Z | i can only get rid of it by restarting the X server or killing the process... |
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| 15:06.31 | jacky_Z | whoever is responsible for ssh opening a GUI when it is used from the terminal should retire and return to work on other operating systems... he/she is not mentally capable to do linux work... |
| 15:06.42 | jacky_Z | damn |
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| 15:07.04 | aypea[0] | that's a bit harsh. it may actually be a bug rather than a conscious decision for it. |
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| 15:12.22 | blackflow | aypea[0]: this is a HP ProLiant G7... back in 2011 I wouldn't be surprised HP didn't make them boot from GPT disks :) |
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| 15:15.15 | aypea[0] | blackflow: I have 3 HP servers in my care. I've been left... uninspired by them. :) |
| 15:15.27 | aypea[0] | esp by the BIOS :) |
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| 15:15.52 | blackflow | aypea[0]: so I might be onto something. Well, we'll see after I reboot :) |
| 15:16.00 | aypea[0] | :) |
| 15:16.23 | aypea[0] | goddamn this laptop is fast |
| 15:17.06 | blackflow | aypea[0]: what I'm doing is this. I ordered a normal single-disk installation of Deb7 from the DC, so I booted into that and am setting up RAID10 (degraded), then reboot into rescue mode and copy the original install to the raid devices, after which I re-insert the original disk into the array, and reboot. |
| 15:17.34 | blackflow | pretty standard procedure that worked every time with raid-1, and this is my first raid-10, and I can't tell why it won't reboot. |
| 15:17.51 | blackflow | (btw, single-disk installation but there's 4 drives in the machine) |
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| 15:18.31 | aypea[0] | blackflow: is this software raid? |
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| 15:18.50 | blackflow | and after it's done, I'll upgrade to JEssie. I tried debootstrapping Jessie onto raid devices directly, but I couldn't get grub to set itself under chroot. |
| 15:18.54 | blackflow | aypea[0]: yes, mdadm |
| 15:19.54 | aypea[0] | blackflow: raid 10 would have a different data layout to raid 1. with raid1 you could still use the disk as if the raid didn't exist. raid10 is more like raid0. are you using grub? |
| 15:20.04 | aypea[0] | or lilo? |
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| 15:20.23 | blackflow | aypea[0]: grub, and /boot is on a four-way raid 1 partition |
| 15:22.00 | aypea[0] | hmm. does it find grub at all? do you have a gpt reserved bios partition? |
| 15:24.26 | blackflow | aypea[0]: I don't have KVM to check why the boot fails, but I do know that after reboot, it becomes pingable for a short while and then disappears. I do have a bios_grub partition, if that's what you mean. I think that's the bios boot partition, yes. |
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| 15:27.24 | aypea[0] | blackflow: it is. you need that on all the disks you want to be able to boot from. if it becomes pingable for a while I don't think the boot method is the problem. sounds like it boots and crashes. |
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| 15:28.51 | blackflow | aypea[0]: I just don't know at which phase it becomes pingable. Could it be the PXE boot phase? Those servers are set up to try PXE first (for rescue mode and installer), and if there's nothing, try local disks. |
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| 15:33.50 | aypea[0] | blackflow: would they get the same ip for pxe as they would for a booted system? |
| 15:34.03 | blackflow | aypea[0]: I don't know. |
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| 15:34.39 | aypea[0] | blackflow: poo. how come you can't kvm to it, btw? |
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| 15:35.28 | aypea[0] | blackflow: no remote access card/ipmi? |
| 15:35.29 | blackflow | aypea[0]: because I'm cheap and I ain't payin' more than the server's monthly cost for 24 hours of kvm :) |
| 15:35.48 | aypea[0] | blackflow: ahhh. |
| 15:35.57 | blackflow | aypea[0]: and also because I want to figure this out without kvm. if all else fails, I'll just pay up |
| 15:35.57 | aypea[0] | blackflow: not your server as such |
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| 15:36.04 | blackflow | aypea[0]: yeah rented |
| 15:36.18 | aypea[0] | blackflow: so how are you fondling its innards? |
| 15:36.50 | blackflow | aypea[0]: right new reinstalling from scratch, step by step |
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| 15:37.28 | aypea[0] | blackflow: without remote kvm? or as an option from the suppliers menus? |
| 15:37.37 | blackflow | aypea[0]: ssh via rescue mode |
| 15:38.38 | blackflow | I once managed to reboot a centos server into net installer accessible through vnc. I know debian has netconsole and there are some wikis on how to do it with Debian. that's another option |
| 15:38.57 | aypea[0] | blackflow: can you turn off networking on it? if you do that and it still pings on reboot it's pxe. if it doesn't then it boots but burns |
| 15:39.18 | blackflow | aypea[0]: I can try that, yes. |
| 15:39.49 | blackflow | wish I could debootstrap jessie, at least with systemd there's the option of early boot log, right? |
| 15:40.05 | aypea[0] | blackflow: you can also install bootlogd |
| 15:40.14 | blackflow | aypea[0]: on wheezy? |
| 15:40.18 | aypea[0] | blackflow: yup |
| 15:40.31 | blackflow | well set me on fire and put me out with horse piss! |
| 15:40.37 | aypea[0] | blackflow: :) |
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| 15:40.50 | blackflow | will definitely try with that. |
| 15:40.52 | aypea[0] | has it on all his wheezy boxes |
| 15:41.05 | aypea[0] | not sure if it requires a complete boot to record the bootlog, though. |
| 15:41.37 | blackflow | we'll see. |
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| 15:42.42 | aypea[0] | blackflow: also tune2fs -l will tell you the last mount time. if it mounted root during last boot you know it's booting |
| 15:42.57 | blackflow | aypea[0]: good suggestion |
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| 15:45.53 | aypea[0] | blackflow: /var/log/dmesg should have a record of dmesg as soon as it can (from memory). other logfiles should be updated as soon as rsyslog starts (to say rsyslog has started, at least) |
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| 15:46.36 | blackflow | the official docs are a bit old, what's needed nowadays to chroot a debootstrapped wheezy? mount bind /dev, /sys, /run and mount procfs? |
| 15:46.54 | aypea[0] | /dev/pts |
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| 15:47.09 | blackflow | aypea[0]: I guess that's covered with mount -R /dev ? |
| 15:47.14 | blackflow | (--rbind) |
| 15:47.34 | aypea[0] | sounds like it. never tried that though. looks useful :) |
| 15:48.00 | blackflow | well that's what I learned with Gentoo, and I always use it, but Debian is a bit different, and I wonder why the docs and wikis don't mention this at all. |
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| 15:48.09 | blackflow | or mention partially |
| 15:48.18 | aypea[0] | manpower, perhaps |
| 15:48.28 | aypea[0] | or no one really hitting the issue |
| 15:49.09 | blackflow | yeah |
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| 15:52.05 | rm-rf | hi,I have a problem with wayland, I installed the netinstall and xwayland with weston but his start with the command weston tells me "fatal: failed to create compositor" |
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| 15:55.04 | tremon | rm-rf: try asking #wayland |
| 15:55.19 | rm-rf | thx |
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| 15:59.40 | PercyB | Do I see correctly that testdisk and photorec cannot be installed atm on debian? |
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| 16:01.27 | PercyB | I mean this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/764284 |
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| 16:06.40 | CutMeOwnThroat | PercyB, this is about sid |
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| 16:15.07 | PercyB | CutMeOwnThroat Yes, indeed in sid, thx. |
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| 16:15.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | PercyB, and if you run in it, having seen the bug it would be quite obvious how to fix it? |
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| 16:17.51 | anddam | do power management settings of the display work when screensaver is turned off? |
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| 16:18.38 | anddam | power management settings are in screensaver settings > Advanced tab, it's not clear if setting screensaver do "disabled screen saver" in first tab kills the advanced behavior as well |
| 16:18.44 | PercyB | CutMeOwnThroat Which is? Just tried to install it with no success |
| 16:19.07 | anddam | I'd like to set the monitor in standby/suspend/off while not having any visual screensaver |
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| 16:19.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | PercyB, re-build or install the matching version of ntfs-3g... but actually from the bug I would suspect that it should install fine and only not run properly? |
| 16:20.01 | CutMeOwnThroat | or it's a different bug than the one that was initially mentioned |
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| 16:22.12 | PercyB | CutMeOwnThroat It does not install but re-build should indeed work - at least someone mentioned it in an other thread |
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| 16:23.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | PercyB, why would the install fail if it's that bug? |
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| 16:25.14 | PercyB | CutMeOwnThroat It says: The following packages have unmet dependencies testdisk : Depends: libntfs-3g852 |
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| 16:29.51 | Gue______ | Hello peeps |
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| 16:30.11 | brian98 | hi all |
| 16:30.38 | Krakakanok | hello brian98 |
| 16:30.56 | brian98 | hi Krakakanok |
| 16:31.17 | brian98 | how do I move a multicast address from lo to the interface I want? |
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| 16:35.22 | jhutchins_wk | brian98: How did you set it up on loopback to begin with? |
| 16:35.35 | brian98 | I didn't |
| 16:35.38 | brian98 | hmm |
| 16:35.40 | brian98 | sorry digging in here |
| 16:36.26 | brian98 | If I do ip maddr show I can see lo has inet 239.192.52.154 |
| 16:36.45 | brian98 | I want to assign that address to vmbr0 |
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| 16:37.08 | brian98 | ip maddr add 239.192.52.154 dev vmbr0 looks like it works |
| 16:37.15 | brian98 | but it doesn't assign the address |
| 16:37.16 | brian98 | :/ |
| 16:37.19 | jhutchins_wk | brian98: It would appear you are working with some sort of virtualization. |
| 16:37.26 | brian98 | kvm |
| 16:37.38 | brian98 | using proxmox stack |
| 16:37.43 | jhutchins_wk | brian98: In which case there are certain things you can and can't do that are particular to that environment. |
| 16:37.47 | brian98 | this multicast is for corosync |
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| 16:39.55 | thomas_d | sigh I've been trying to make it so flash will recognize my webcam and I've become very frustrated -_- |
| 16:40.32 | thomas_d | has anyone experienced a decent/simple solution for this by chance? |
| 16:41.01 | thomas_d | I've been arsing around with some projects called webcamstudio and flashcam and I'm just having a terrible time... |
| 16:41.17 | anddam | thomas_d: it most likely depends on the actual problem |
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| 16:41.35 | thomas_d | oh hi again anddam ! I actually got webcamstudio working kind of, lol |
| 16:42.22 | thomas_d | if you remember from earlier I was having those troubles... Well, I can run the application now... But flash still won't see the video device which the application is supposed to create... |
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| 16:43.01 | thomas_d | but yes, I'm having a hard time knowing anything about the actual problem |
| 16:43.20 | anddam | I don't remember, also I don't have experience with flash and I actually despise it very much |
| 16:43.46 | jhutchins_wk | brian98: You should probably be following a guide for setting up the system, not just improvising miscelaneous steps. |
| 16:44.11 | thomas_d | it was just a few hours ago, with the java and the babes etc... |
| 16:44.13 | anddam | thomas_d: "flash won't see the video device" is a pointer, what is actually this "flash"? |
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| 16:44.32 | thomas_d | a website called tinychat, anddam lol |
| 16:44.37 | anddam | is it builtin in a native program or a browser plugin or what? |
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| 16:45.03 | anddam | thomas_d: I don't understand what you say, I suggest stop LOL'ing |
| 16:45.35 | thomas_d | my built-in laptop webcam works perfectly fine on the website, but my USB cam doesn't (USB cam works fine elsewhere though) |
| 16:45.57 | jhutchins_wk | !webcam |
| 16:45.57 | dpkg | For webcam device support in Debian, ask me about <gspca>, <uvcvideo>. See also <quickcam>, <ov51x-jpeg>, <ov511>, <m560x-driver>, <w9968cf>, <pwc>, <sn9c20x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Webcam |
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| 16:46.45 | anddam | IF that's true, it sounds like a permission issue somewhere |
| 16:46.54 | anddam | I guess the builtin webcam is USB as well |
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| 16:50.32 | PercyB | Suddenly all the file names on a compact flash card look like this: .`üò |
| 16:50.32 | PercyB | ┤ö.¼v |
| 16:51.23 | PercyB | Also wrong file sizes. I was just transferring some files to it and it's not usable anymore. Have no idea what messed up that card... |
| 16:51.40 | blackflow | you kept it close to your cellphone |
| 16:52.18 | PercyB | blackflow No, it was in an ebookreader and been working fine for some weeks |
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| 16:52.26 | nkuttler | PercyB: it's broken? though i'd expect it to be not readable at all in that case |
| 16:52.53 | nkuttler | PercyB: what filesystem? |
| 16:53.34 | PercyB | nkuttler Thunar does not open it at all, however other file managers do show the correct number of files with mad names and sizes |
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| 16:54.01 | blackflow | aypea[0]: well, I thought you might wanna know... I fixed it. I guess PMBR needs to have the bootable flag on this server. |
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| 16:54.27 | PercyB | it's fat32 |
| 16:54.31 | nkuttler | PercyB: see also dmesg | tail |
| 16:54.49 | nkuttler | PercyB: iirc fat can have different encodings, but i'd still bet on a broken filesystem |
| 16:55.26 | PercyB | nkuttler Yes, looks like a broken filesystem - is there maybe a way to rescue the original data somehow? |
| 16:55.42 | nkuttler | PercyB: try asking in ##windows |
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| 16:56.25 | PercyB | nkuttler tried rsync, but it copies files of 2-3 Gig, which should be around 5-6 MB... |
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| 16:58.42 | tremon | PercyB: fat32 has no checksumming on its metadata. What you're seeing as "filenames" is probably just random garbage, caused by some program writing to the wrong part of the disk |
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| 16:59.43 | PercyB | tremon Yes, as a matter of fact all those file names look like random garbage |
| 17:00.13 | tremon | maybe a tool like testdisk can recover part of the data, but that requires on the files stored there to have recognizable metadata |
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| 17:00.56 | tremon | testdisk also can't distinguish between live files and deleted-but-not-yet-overwritten |
| 17:01.28 | PercyB | tremon Ok, tried dd and - as mentioned - rsync but they get the wrong structure. Probably the best option would be testdisk or some kind of specific windows tool. |
| 17:02.03 | tremon | testdisk isn't windows-specific, it's a tool that scans an entire disk for file or partition signatures it recognizes |
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| 17:03.50 | tremon | it can completely ignore filesystem structures if you tell it to |
| 17:03.52 | PercyB | tremon Yes, I meant that there is maybe a recovery tool on windows that could somehow handle this kind of issue - if it does not work, I will format that card |
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| 17:04.26 | nick12345 | my audio just broke |
| 17:04.43 | nick12345 | i didnt have sound on skype so i installed pavucontrol like people suggested |
| 17:04.43 | PercyB | tremon Ok, thx, I hope testdisk will help to recover the original files - or at least a part of them |
| 17:04.50 | nick12345 | now i have no audio at all |
| 17:05.08 | nkuttler | nick12345: start pavucontrol and check if anything is muted |
| 17:05.17 | nkuttler | nick12345: also check your output device configuration |
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| 17:05.53 | nick12345 | pulseaudio doesnt seem to see my audio card and only sees the hdmi output |
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| 17:06.33 | rm-rf | how do I install and wayland weston on debian unstable (with which command)? |
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| 17:07.10 | nick12345 | rm-rf, that seems very googleable |
| 17:07.23 | nick12345 | well so does my question... |
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| 17:07.36 | tremon | nick12345: were you using pulseaudio before you installed pavucontrol? |
| 17:08.09 | nick12345 | well i did install skype. isnt pulse its dependency? |
| 17:08.10 | SamsaraSoup | I've been using Debian Jessie (tesing) for a while. Next week Jessie is officially realeased. Will I need to update my /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 17:08.26 | SamsaraSoup | or just leave it as is? |
| 17:08.36 | nick12345 | i dont think i used it though since i adjusted volume through alsa |
| 17:08.41 | tremon | SamsaraSoup: depends on whether your sources.list contains "jessie" or "testing" as its suite name |
| 17:09.00 | somiaj | SamsaraSoup: as long as your sources.list says 'jessie', if it says testing you should change it, because testing can be a rough ride right after a release. |
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| 17:09.34 | SamsaraSoup | somiaj: I see. That makes sence. |
| 17:09.53 | tremon | nick12345: if a program was using your sound card (i.e. playing audio, or being paused) when pulseaudio was being installed or started, pulseaudio could not access the device. That would explain why it's missing from pavucontrol |
| 17:10.19 | nick12345 | how do i fix that? |
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| 17:11.08 | SamsaraSoup | somiaj: They all refer to Jessie and not testing. I'll leave them alone then. Thanks for your help. |
| 17:11.47 | tremon | logout and log back in again is probably easiest. Or exit the program that's currently using the audio device, and restart pulseaudio (pulseaudio -k ; pulseaudio) |
| 17:11.54 | tremon | nick12345: ^^ |
| 17:12.51 | nick12345 | ill try relogging |
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| 17:14.02 | nick12345 | didnt work |
| 17:14.18 | nick12345 | did pulseaudio -k and relogged |
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| 17:15.14 | tremon | ok, that should have worked. Maybe run pulseaudio -vv in a terminal and scan for error messages |
| 17:16.45 | nick12345 | http://pastebin.com/BK0pVELB |
| 17:16.57 | nick12345 | tremon, ^ |
| 17:17.34 | tremon | E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running. |
| 17:17.44 | tremon | nick12345: please kill it with pulseaudio -k first |
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| 17:18.47 | nick12345 | did it |
| 17:18.55 | nick12345 | still says its already running |
| 17:19.27 | nick12345 | cant seem to kill it |
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| 17:20.30 | nick12345 | tremon, huh. i tried killing it though htop with sigkill and it still gives that error |
| 17:21.08 | tremon | something may be respawning it. try pgrep pulseaudio ; pulseaudio -k ; pgrep pulseaudio |
| 17:21.43 | tremon | if you get the same process id for both pgrep commands, it's hanging and may need to be killed in -9 |
| 17:22.04 | tremon | if you get different id's, something program is respawning it |
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| 17:23.30 | nick12345 | different ids |
| 17:24.51 | tremon | Maybe ask in #pulseaudio how you can prevent pulse from respawning so fast |
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| 17:26.41 | nick12345 | what was the idea behind pulse anyways? if alsa works, why was it created? |
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| 17:28.50 | tremon | nih syndrome, for one. And alsa depended on hardware mixing to allow two programs to play audio at the same time, which many on-board sound chips couldn't do |
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| 17:29.19 | fu_metaleer | you FUCKS |
| 17:29.25 | fu_metaleer | man |
| 17:29.28 | teraflop | i love you too |
| 17:29.34 | fu_metaleer | shut the FUCK UP YOU FUCK |
| 17:30.21 | fu_metaleer | hey Metaleer |
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| 17:32.50 | Guest7788 | Hi ya'll. Not sure if this is entirely a debian question but also a VM Ware question. I have a VMWare host on a windows machine running debian in network bridged. But I seem to be getting "Network is unreachable". Any ideas? The base line was to get the host and the vm guest on the same network. |
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| 17:37.50 | blackflow | Guest7788: how's the guest networking set up, with dhcp? |
| 17:38.03 | Guest7788 | yeah its default network interface |
| 17:38.18 | blackflow | and you get an ip? |
| 17:38.19 | Guest7788 | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 17:38.36 | Guest7788 | yeah |
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| 17:38.40 | Guest7788 | I have an ip on the same network as host |
| 17:39.01 | blackflow | Guest7788: and routing? netstat -rn showing anything sane? |
| 17:39.59 | Guest7788 | I attached a print screen http://i.imgur.com/GUSQwf1.png |
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| 17:41.51 | blackflow | probably something on the vmware side then |
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| 17:42.46 | Guest7788 | grr |
| 17:43.06 | Guest7788 | is there a way to reset the entire debian network configuration to default? |
| 17:44.04 | blackflow | there's no such thing really, although one could argue that dhcp is a sane default |
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| 17:44.42 | Guest7788 | But the routes are correct? The host gateway is indeed at 192.168.0.1 |
| 17:44.57 | blackflow | Guest7788: which network is unreachable, btw? |
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| 17:45.23 | Guest7788 | from the vm guest, I cannot ping anything |
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| 17:47.33 | sebus | Hello folks. Gotta a little question. Will I gain some perfomance with ext4 on older machine, or should I stick with ext3? |
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| 17:49.48 | sebus | googled some benchmarks, but I belive they were made on modern stuff, rather than based on 12+ years |
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| 17:50.32 | ompaul | !tias |
| 17:50.32 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 17:50.43 | Guest7788 | blackflow: I managed to get it work using vmware NAT, however the guest is now at an entirely different network :( |
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| 17:50.54 | vixterra | Is there some way I can make aptitude build-dep give me a list of all the packages that it could potentially install, including ones I already have? |
| 17:51.24 | blackflow | Guest7788: btw, are you sure the network is not working? maybe just pings were not passed through |
| 17:51.35 | tremon | vixterra: not really, as aptitude can't potentially install a package you already have installed |
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| 17:51.44 | blackflow | afaik icmp doesn't work from guests even on default VirtualBox installation on Windows |
| 17:51.45 | sebus | ompaul seems like I will. |
| 17:51.50 | Guest7788 | blackflow: perhaps, but why would vmware stop them? |
| 17:52.04 | blackflow | Guest7788: windows firewall probably |
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| 17:52.14 | blackflow | but I don't know anything about that. |
| 17:52.21 | Guest7788 | not sure if windows firewall ever stopped ICMP |
| 17:52.29 | vixterra | tremon, Is there some other way of querying for the same information that doesn't involve aptitude? |
| 17:52.33 | tremon | sebus: regular workloads are usually not limited by filesystem performance. But as ompaul says, only one way to find out |
| 17:53.19 | blackflow | Guest7788: I have no idea, all I know I couldn't ping anything even on VirtualBox in bridged mode on a Windows host last time I tried |
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| 17:53.42 | teraflop | Guest7788: easy to find out, just disable the windows fw |
| 17:53.48 | blackflow | I didn't spend any time researching why. My point is, except the icmps, the network was fine |
| 17:54.19 | teraflop | Guest7788: or run wireshark on see what is going on |
| 17:54.48 | teraflop | and* |
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| 17:55.25 | tremon | vixterra: not easily. You would have to parse all build-depends fields of all the source packages you need |
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| 17:56.31 | Guest7788 | yup lol |
| 17:56.32 | Guest7788 | it was the FW |
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| 17:56.55 | vixterra | Ah well, that's a shame. Thanks. |
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| 17:57.12 | NotJimCarrey | ok, ignoring the "why", does anyone know the "how" to get this line to work in inittab? C:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/setsid sh -c 'exec /usr/local/bin/glances <> /dev/tty11 >&0 2>&1' |
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| 17:59.21 | NotJimCarrey | if i run the command itself after boot, it works, but does nothing from init |
| 18:00.04 | teraflop | Guest7788: then make a rule/rules if you want the fw up |
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| 18:00.18 | Guest7788 | teraflop: yeah am working on it... however I need to specify a port in bitdefender |
| 18:00.30 | Guest7788 | cant just allow an ip adress |
| 18:01.12 | teraflop | Guest7788: ^ well i think this is hard offtopic here anyway good luck |
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| 18:03.15 | dalo | Geee... |
| 18:03.30 | dalo | How things have changed since 1999... debian-wise |
| 18:03.49 | dalo | Just installed Wheezy on a Asus laptop, and everything just works out-of-the-box |
| 18:04.05 | dalo | That did NOT happen way back in Sid. |
| 18:04.36 | NotJimCarrey | dalo: yup, i remember the horrors all too well |
| 18:04.40 | dalo | Not Sid, sorry. What stable release was around in 2000? |
| 18:04.57 | mjt | that's 16 years ago.. |
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| 18:06.05 | mjt | potato was released in aug 2000 |
| 18:06.09 | dalo | Slink was my first installation. |
| 18:06.11 | mjt | before that was sink |
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| 18:06.38 | dalo | Got that in a box, along with http://akamaicovers.oreilly.com/images/9781565927056/cat.gif |
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| 18:07.53 | ieP3Cahv | using debian wheezy with pulseaudio. how to unmute and increase volume from command line (to be put in rc.local)? |
| 18:08.31 | NotJimCarrey | pulseaudio-ctl? |
| 18:09.07 | mjt | maybe alsa-utils package? |
| 18:09.17 | andre_pl | I recently upgraded a raid array on my wheezy server, and now I get mdadm : superblock on /dev/sdd doesn't match others - assembly aborted on boot. strangely if I boot this ubuntu-server live rescue environemtn, it auto-assembles the array and it appears to be fine. |
| 18:09.43 | mjt | (alsa-utils comes with an initscript that saves and restores all volume levels of all sound cards) |
| 18:10.34 | NotJimCarrey | pulseaudio-ctl mute; pulseaudio-ctl up; pulseaudio-ctl down; etc |
| 18:11.10 | NotJimCarrey | project page: https://github.com/graysky2/pulseaudio-ctl |
| 18:11.20 | dalo | Just what exactly is pulseaudio anyway? |
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| 18:12.01 | NotJimCarrey | dalo: sound server |
| 18:12.08 | dalo | Ah |
| 18:12.27 | NotJimCarrey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PulseAudio |
| 18:12.47 | dalo | NotJimCarrey, the horrors, hmm. But I might be confusing my early Linux experiences. Thinking about it, they were not Debian, they were more likely RedHat 5.2 and 6. |
| 18:12.53 | NotJimCarrey | can be a pain to setup sometimes, but i honestly prefer it over others |
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| 18:13.18 | dalo | I have pretty vivid nightmarish memories of pre-configured pink-windowed fvwm and the unsufferable fvwm95 |
| 18:13.38 | NotJimCarrey | dalo: I'm referring to the pain it took to get all laptop hardware working |
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| 18:14.07 | NotJimCarrey | stupid winmodems |
| 18:14.12 | blackflow | note to folks upgrading wheezy to jessie on a remote headless server... make sure you have GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT set to a sane value, or else. :) |
| 18:14.13 | heston | is there any reason why i wouldnt want to go with x64 at this point? |
| 18:14.18 | dalo | NotJimCarrey, Ah. With one exeption: If you had an IBM ThinkPad. |
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| 18:15.28 | Guest7788 | I have a debian issue in fact. I have a freshly installed debian 7. I do not remeber selecting it in the install process... anyway when I run apt-get install ssh I get that I have unmet dependecies openssh-server. When I try to install it it says you have held broken packages. |
| 18:15.40 | Guest7788 | I never had any issues installing ssh before, have I missed something? |
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| 18:16.22 | Billias | @All |
| 18:16.26 | Billias | i am trying to find |
| 18:16.32 | NotJimCarrey | ignoring the "why", does anyone know the "how" to get this line to work in inittab? C:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/setsid sh -c 'exec /usr/local/bin/glances <> /dev/tty11 >&0 2>&1' |
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| 18:16.39 | Billias | info about debian-installer partman... but i cannot |
| 18:16.59 | Billias | i want to create a VolumeGroup on any available disk on my system, but i cannot make the expert recipe. |
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| 18:19.49 | Guest7788 | sigh, broken source.list |
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| 18:20.15 | ieP3Cahv | NotJimCarrey, mjt, 'man pacmd'. thanks anyway. |
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| 18:29.34 | tremon | Billias: iirc, there are no recipes that work when there's more than one disk in the system |
| 18:29.54 | tremon | you may want to ask #debian-boot on oftc though |
| 18:30.15 | Billias | tremon: is there some manual that talks about every Debianinstaller parameter for seed files? |
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| 18:32.56 | tremon | there is no exhaustive list as the available parameters depends on your package selection, but have you read https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en ? |
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| 18:40.58 | ElOcho | Anybody have any experience with Brasero? I'm trying to extract the image from a cd and save it to my hdd. I selected "Disk Copy" but it's telling me "Please replace the disc with a supported CD or DVD". It's a simple DVD-R idk why it won't copy. Any help would be appreciated. |
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| 18:42.34 | tremon | ElOcho: I'm not familiar with brasero, but "disk copy" usually means from one dvd to a second dvd. An image to harddisk is usually described with words like extract, backup, or image |
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| 18:44.38 | jhutchins_wk | Is there a program that combines an ssh terminal session with the ability to download/upload files? |
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| 18:45.05 | centrx | jhutchins_wk, sftp? |
| 18:45.26 | ElOcho | tremon: Any other programs you'd recomend for that kind of thing? |
| 18:46.45 | Bielecki | Hello! Do you know how I can run xfce or lxde window manager on xvfb? |
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| 18:48.31 | tremon | ElOcho: if it's a data disc, a plain cp command (as root) will work (i.e. cp /dev/dvd ./my-dvd-image.iso). If it's audio/video, transcode or cdparanoia are my preferred tools. I'd probably use transmageddon if I wanted a ui |
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| 18:50.15 | teraflop | ElOcho: uhm, just dick cpoy and select image file |
| 18:50.16 | ElOcho | Yeah it's just a data cd I guess cp should work just fine. |
| 18:50.26 | teraflop | disc copy* |
| 18:50.31 | ElOcho | ^lol |
| 18:50.35 | teraflop | heh sorry |
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| 18:53.02 | dalo | ElOcho, did you solve it? |
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| 18:55.33 | jhutchins_wk | centrx: For some reason it never gives me a prompt. Works fine on a local server. |
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| 18:56.48 | centrx | jhutchins_wk, weird, is openssh-sftp-server installed |
| 18:57.01 | jhutchins_wk | centrx: Probably not. |
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| 18:58.07 | jhutchins_wk | centrx: It's also not installed on the server where it works though. |
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| 18:58.32 | jhutchins_wk | openssh-server on both. |
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| 19:01.07 | jhutchins_wk | Ok, that time it worked. |
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| 19:06.05 | anddam | is there a graphical disk partitioning interface? lxde of DE-agnostic |
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| 19:07.00 | anddam | also I'm going to serve a disk with netatalk, I should format the fs as ext4 anyway, right? |
| 19:07.05 | trampel | anddam: http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/reviews/top-4-graphical-partition-managers |
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| 19:09.09 | anddam | I tend to avoid anything specifically gnome or kde |
| 19:09.33 | trampel | i tend to avoid anything "graphical" but i'm a dour old fart |
| 19:10.04 | trampel | (that is, fdisk or gdisk) |
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| 19:10.33 | Bielecki | I got a error when opening Alsamixer from console: "cannot open mixer: no such file or directory" - how to fix that? I hear the sound |
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| 19:11.44 | trampel | Bielecki: might try adding yourself to the "audio" group |
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| 19:11.58 | Bielecki | As root? Hmm... how to do that? |
| 19:12.02 | jhutchins_wk | I think filezilla is what I'm looking for. For a non-console user. |
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| 19:12.26 | anddam | trampel: I went cfdisk myself, but I was curious about something with more eye candy |
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| 19:12.42 | trampel | sudo usermod -a -G audio Bielecki |
| 19:13.10 | trampel | anddam: "eye candy" other than "gnome or kde"? |
| 19:13.53 | Bielecki | It didn't worked |
| 19:14.28 | trampel | Bielecki: you've logged yourself in/out so that when you type "groups" (as you) you see "audio"? |
| 19:14.34 | jhutchins_wk | Bielecki: You have to log out and log back in for a new group to take effect, but you could run the "groups" command to see if you're already a member. |
| 19:14.50 | jhutchins_wk | Bielecki: Also try it as root to see if it's permissions or if the mixer isn't there. |
| 19:14.54 | jhutchins_wk | !alsa checklist |
| 19:14.54 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 19:15.41 | anddam | trampel: well, I picked lxde |
| 19:15.55 | anddam | more eye-candy than terminal |
| 19:16.01 | anddam | it was a curiosity, not a need |
| 19:16.22 | WormFood | I need to extract some data, out of an old Windows 98 registry. Are there any tools in the debian repo to help me achieve this goal? |
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| 19:16.58 | anddam | http://netatalk.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Install_Netatalk_3.1.7_on_Debian_8_Jessie "It's recommended to enable extended attributes of filesystem. You can check it by "getfattr" and "setfattr" commands. " |
| 19:17.09 | anddam | is that something specific to ext4 or to netatalk? |
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| 19:18.13 | SynrGy | anddam: if you're going to rule out kde and gnome, that pretty much leaves you with gparted. |
| 19:18.18 | SynrGy | which is just gtk |
| 19:18.56 | trampel | anddam: that's traditionally done with an fstab attribute, something like: /dev/sda2 /media/mount_point ext4 auto,users,user_xattr 0 2 |
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| 19:19.16 | jhutchins_wk | anddam: That's to allow preservation of more extended file attributes. |
| 19:19.36 | SynrGy | and that's essentially what the article trampel quoted said anyway :) |
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| 19:20.52 | Bielecki | jhutchins_wk: the problem is that previously I could open alsamixer, but now I just can't. Relogging didn't helped. When I try to $ pavucontrol --display=:1 I'm getting "Fatal error: Unable to connect to PulseAudio: OK" |
| 19:21.25 | anddam | I got confused by the "if you use ACL" that follows, are those mutually exclusive? |
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| 19:21.39 | anddam | I don't have a getfattr binary but I do have getfacl |
| 19:22.10 | jhutchins_wk | Bielecki: Sounds like you need to run through the checklist - like alsa's not loading. |
| 19:22.11 | anddam | so I assumed I don't have extended attributes and I do use ACL |
| 19:22.25 | anddam | oh tune2fs |
| 19:22.45 | Bielecki | w8, I'll try rebooting whole VPS |
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| 19:25.35 | Bielecki | nope, still the same error |
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| 19:27.25 | trampel | Bielecki: i think you've got the curse of more than one thing wrong. for instance have you started the pulseaudio service? |
| 19:27.53 | ompaul | Bielecki: in situations like that searching audio troubleshooting pages on Debian left me frustrated I ended up reinstalling my de |
| 19:28.05 | ompaul | Bielecki: but that was on SID |
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| 19:29.02 | ompaul | grumbles about someone who wants to complain about the capital letters |
| 19:29.11 | ompaul | grumbles about himself mostly |
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| 19:29.27 | sesso | hey guys, i have a problem i found locally my ip cameras on a specific ip:port but as i try to run them in the browser it just give not responding... |
| 19:29.51 | Bielecki | ompaul: I think that I have to do that finally.. ;x |
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| 19:30.49 | ompaul | sesso: are you sure it is a web browser not a bit of static silly protocol where they break every standard to run a windows app? |
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| 19:31.40 | sesso | ompaul fresh installed windows without any toolbars, addons and the rest of maleware shits :D so yea i assume it works like a browser :) |
| 19:31.52 | introom | Bielecki: what vps are you using? |
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| 19:31.55 | Bielecki | OMG, $ dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils worked for me! |
| 19:32.08 | Bielecki | introom Classic I from OVH |
| 19:32.14 | sesso | ompaul the ip camera worked on old router on the new they didnt work ... |
| 19:32.28 | anddam | sesso: how's this possibly debian-related? |
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| 19:32.57 | sesso | anddam i tryed some #network channel but there are 3 ppl :D |
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| 19:33.22 | anddam | try ##dancing |
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| 19:35.22 | introom | Bielecki: wow. that's really cheap. |
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| 19:39.14 | Blackhold | hi, I want to install debian jessie on an emmeded system that doesn't have uefi support, is an alix 2d2. I'm trying to create my own debian-installer, but asks for debian-multimedia repository>debian-installer but I could not continue with the creation of the installer. Could some give me some clue how to continue? Thanks |
| 19:39.41 | Bielecki | introom: yup. But I'm thinking about changing to a dedicated kimsufi server ;) Cheap too - http://www.kimsufi.com |
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| 19:41.05 | Blackhold | I'm also trying to edit iso-debian-installer but when I mount the directory it is RO, and I'm trying to modify the installer to allow installation through COM port |
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| 19:44.47 | raccoon_ | Blackhold: just mount it with "rw" as an option |
| 19:45.01 | raccoon_ | mount -o rw ... |
| 19:45.15 | TacoGS | Is there a way that you can tell if a net install is struggling with detecting network hardware? |
| 19:45.26 | anddam | is there a web interface to browse packages by category? |
| 19:45.29 | TacoGS | It just says detecting network hardware but no errors or issues appear in the primary console |
| 19:45.33 | anddam | PDO cannot |
| 19:46.06 | TacoGS | anddam: No idea, I use synaptic package manager... however, won't help if you need a web version. |
| 19:46.18 | Blackhold | raccoon_: it don't allows to mount rw I also tried to use -o rw |
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| 19:46.31 | Blackhold | # mount -o rw -t auto /dev/sdc1 /media/usb |
| 19:46.31 | Blackhold | mount: /dev/sdc1 is write-protected, mounting read-only |
| 19:47.08 | SynrG | write-protected via physical switch? |
| 19:47.21 | SynrG | oh, iso is not editable |
| 19:47.30 | Blackhold | SynrG: is a Compact Flash |
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| 19:47.40 | SynrG | doesn't matter. you can't edit an ISO |
| 19:47.47 | jalalsfs | How can I install plasma 5 on Jessie? |
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| 19:48.08 | Blackhold | SynrG: unextract it, edit it and again pack it? |
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| 19:48.10 | mtn | TacoGS: wireless? if so, you may need to use: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware |
| 19:48.16 | TacoGS | No, wired. |
| 19:48.23 | raccoon_ | Blackhold: sorry, iso9660 seems to be read-only (at least when using mount)... i just assumed it defaulted to ro and rw would solve it |
| 19:48.25 | TacoGS | I have 3 NICs, 1 onboard 2 intel pros |
| 19:48.46 | Blackhold | raccoon_: no prob ;) |
| 19:48.46 | raccoon_ | Blackhold: extract, modify and using mkisofs to recreate iso seems to be the norm on linux systems |
| 19:49.01 | mtn | TacoGS: it may still need firmware, but less likely. might take a look at the debian wiki |
| 19:49.03 | Blackhold | raccoon_: the difference here is about uefi partition |
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| 19:49.23 | TacoGS | mtn: Nah, I will force an offline install. I cannot tell if the installer is running into a bad DHCP issue |
| 19:49.33 | Blackhold | raccoon_: gonna extract, modifify it and use mkisofs to recreate |
| 19:49.40 | Blackhold | thanks |
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| 19:49.56 | SynrG | Blackhold: remastering is usually not needed. you would typically preseed |
| 19:49.59 | TacoGS | mtn: Thanks though, I have enough thumb drives :P |
| 19:50.10 | Blackhold | SynrG: ok |
| 19:50.21 | Blackhold | I'm getting wreid on it lol |
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| 19:51.37 | SynrG | Blackhold: anything you can't do with preseeding, you would typically do with a custom build. |
| 19:51.48 | SynrG | Blackhold: remastering is a lousy way to customize images. |
| 19:52.17 | Blackhold | SynrG: I only want to do is to add the COM support on grub :P |
| 19:52.21 | SynrG | it tends to be inefficient and inflexible. it leads to results that are not easily repeatable |
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| 19:53.01 | SynrG | well, I don't know what "add the COM support on grub" involves. so i can't exactly say how to best achieve it |
| 19:53.01 | Blackhold | I'm editing grub.cfg file of the iso image and trying if it that works... |
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| 19:55.09 | Blackhold | http://blackhold.nusepas.com/2015/04/instalar-debian-en-una-alix-2d2-por-null-modem/ <- it is in spanish, but it tells what I'm trying to do... this I installed two days ago, you could see what I'm exactly want to do :P |
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| 20:05.10 | Blackhold | SynrG: so that, I created the iso file from directory but it don't creates well |
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| 20:11.51 | jk_ | what do I do if debian hangs on disk unlocking? |
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| 20:12.12 | raccoon_ | SynrG: Blackhold wants to edit the grub kernel boot parameters to activate the serial console. it's not doable through preseed |
| 20:12.44 | SynrG | sure. if it's just grub, then the unpack/repack you suggested would work |
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| 20:13.00 | SynrG | or just use the hdmedia image which is designed for this |
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| 20:13.10 | SynrG | the debian installation guide has details |
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| 20:17.45 | SynrG | Blackhold: see https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 4.3.3 Manually copying files to the USB stick -- the flexible way |
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| 20:18.24 | SynrG | uses the files from hd-media (see "other images" from the web site) |
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| 20:29.39 | hiexpo | when I use checkinstall I get these errors https://paste.debian.net/167538/ but if i just use make install in installs fine how do i overcome this? |
| 20:30.17 | hiexpo | oh useing command sudo checkinstall |
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| 20:40.44 | thabom | Hi all, is anyone familiar with trusting a crl (in combination with slapd/gnutls)? |
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| 20:41.01 | thabom | i generated it like this; certtool --generate-crl --load-ca-privkey ca-key.pem --load-ca-certificate ca-cert.pem --load-certificate lrc-ldap_client.gnutls.crt |
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| 20:41.31 | thabom | but a verify tells me; Verification output: Not verified. The certificate is NOT trusted. The certificate chain violates the signer's constraints. |
| 20:42.13 | thabom | i'm crawling through ldap & gnutls docs but no success yet |
| 20:43.30 | TacoGS | did a normal install attempt at debian and the console is breaking badly |
| 20:43.43 | TacoGS | I have a feeling that thumbdrive is bad... |
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| 20:45.09 | mtn | TacoGS: did you use unetbootin to make the boot disk? |
| 20:45.20 | TacoGS | nah, I used the same thing I have every other time |
| 20:45.25 | TacoGS | Rufus |
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| 20:46.56 | TacoGS | the install starts, but man does it error quit a bit after it detects network devices :P |
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| 20:52.26 | hiexpo | solved |
| 20:52.50 | hiexpo | backwords but worked |
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| 21:00.54 | TacoGS | mtn: I may need to use another tool |
| 21:00.59 | TacoGS | this is not working out so well :P |
| 21:01.17 | TacoGS | end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 |
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| 21:03.50 | TacoGS | trying unetbootin as suggested |
| 21:06.15 | mtn | TacoGS: no, I was not suggesting it ;) |
| 21:06.21 | TacoGS | ohh haha |
| 21:06.23 | mtn | !unetbootin |
| 21:06.24 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 21:06.28 | TacoGS | it doesn't matter, it is generating errors anyways |
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| 21:06.48 | TacoGS | I guess this system has bad USB |
| 21:06.54 | TacoGS | that or the images are interesting |
| 21:07.35 | TacoGS | I am getting FAT-fs errors on all drives |
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| 21:08.30 | TacoGS | seems to have continued after error 5000 times |
| 21:09.16 | TacoGS | FAT-fs (fd0): unable to read boot sector or utf8 is not a recommended charset for FAT filesystem |
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| 21:10.57 | mtn | TacoGS: I wonder if this would help you: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=103696 |
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| 21:12.11 | TacoGS | it seems to be hanging up on trying to load rtl_nic/rt18168d-2.fw |
| 21:12.22 | TacoGS | the network cable is plugged into something else |
| 21:13.07 | TacoGS | it moved forward |
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| 21:13.39 | TacoGS | it just hangs up on FAT-fs errors for a bit, hangs on the realtek drivers and then asks if I want to load them manually... I said no and it detected NICs, then gave me a choice of which one I wanted |
| 21:13.45 | mtn | TacoGS: the fd0 error is about a floppy drive |
| 21:13.51 | TacoGS | I know |
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| 21:14.08 | TacoGS | my friend taught me that a while back :P |
| 21:14.40 | mtn | TacoGS: ok, then why paste the errors about it here? |
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| 21:15.21 | TacoGS | nope, no access to copy and paste as this is not a VM |
| 21:15.27 | TacoGS | besides, it seems to be working now |
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| 21:29.31 | deepblue | how can i install php? |
| 21:31.00 | TacoGS | use apt-get |
| 21:31.18 | bazhang | ,v php5 |
| 21:31.19 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze25; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; sid: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1 |
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| 21:33.36 | Barbariandude | Hello! I'm having a strange issue and I'm not sure if here or the pulseaudio channel is the right place to ask: just updated my Debian Jessie install, and now pulseaudio is recording from my input, not my microphone (if that makes sense) |
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| 21:34.18 | Barbariandude | Essentially, the "front microphone" jack is just playing whatever my speakers are playing, not what I'm actually saying into my mic |
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| 21:35.07 | pfred1 | Can anyone here verify that the file "/usr/share/doc/timidity/README.alsaseq.gz" from the package "timidity" is corrupt on Wheezy? It is supposed to look like this: http://www.csee.umbc.edu/portal/help/sound/TiMidity++-2.13.2/doc/C/README.alsaseq when you run zcat on it. debsums verified my package as "OK" |
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| 21:44.45 | Barbariandude | I found the problem: my default.pa is screwed |
| 21:44.56 | Barbariandude | Can anyone pastebin a working default.pa file for me? |
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| 21:46.07 | pfred1 | Barbariandude I have a lot of default.page files but no default.pa one sorry |
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| 21:52.36 | basic6_ | what package provides magick/MagicCore.h ? |
| 21:53.50 | pfred1 | basic6_ Google is good with questions like that |
| 21:54.25 | FLHerne | basic6_: imagemagick probably, given the name |
| 21:54.28 | pfred1 | File list of package libmagickcore-dev |
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| 21:54.38 | basic6_ | thanks |
| 21:55.37 | pfred1 | Google has a real soft spot for Linux |
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| 21:56.17 | SynrG | libmagickcore-6-headers: /usr/include/ImageMagick-6/magick/MagickCore.h |
| 21:56.28 | SynrG | found with apt-file search |
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| 21:58.53 | SynrG | use the tools in debian to find what's in debian |
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| 21:59.32 | pfred1 | SynrG apt-file search MagicCore.h returns nothing here because I don't have it installed |
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| 21:59.51 | SynrG | so? |
| 22:00.04 | SynrG | that's a poor excuse :p |
| 22:00.10 | pfred1 | SynrG so your method doesn't work |
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| 22:00.59 | SynrG | don't be ridiculous |
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| 22:02.28 | bazhang | is that the debian equivalent to apt=cache search used in ubuntu |
| 22:03.06 | pfred1 | mope apt-cache search is different and Debian had it first |
| 22:03.06 | SynrG | apt-file searches the Contents files |
| 22:03.27 | SynrG | if you really have a problem with installing this useful tool, use packages.debian.org |
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| 22:03.54 | SynrG | telling people to use google is irresponsible. |
| 22:04.05 | pfred1 | SynrG bye |
| 22:04.15 | skraito | wow |
| 22:04.26 | skraito | looks like everyone is happy |
| 22:04.28 | pfred1 | and they were never heard from again |
| 22:04.34 | skraito | to see my code |
| 22:04.48 | skraito | need some help |
| 22:06.18 | FLHerne | skraito: What help do you need? |
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| 22:06.52 | skraito | my code and i need help |
| 22:06.53 | SynrG | hm. i can see several ways my statement could be taken out of context, so let me clarify: telling people to use google to find which package a file is contained in within debian is trivially determined with tools within debian (apt-file) or with packages.debian.org. simply pointing users at google may or may not yield correct results. therefore, i would recommend against it. |
| 22:06.58 | skraito | i am off to dalnet |
| 22:06.59 | skraito | :p |
| 22:07.26 | ctmjr | bazhang: to answer your question apt-cache searches for packages apt-file searches within the package (someone might be able to explain better) |
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| 22:08.55 | FLHerne | Riiight |
| 22:09.30 | bazhang | ctmjr, thanks, a simple /msg the bot find name works on irc |
| 22:10.02 | SynrG | on the other hand, apt-file search works off of the apt sources you have installed on your own system |
| 22:10.12 | SynrG | and packages are sometimes reorganized between releases |
| 22:10.47 | bazhang | the irc advantage one I use searches every single repo avaialble |
| 22:10.53 | SynrG | sure |
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| 22:11.16 | SynrG | nice to have options |
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| 22:39.55 | belowzero | hi guys, do anybody know about debian repositories that allow https? some upgrades are stopped by ISP probably thinking they are viruses. |
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| 22:55.23 | jellow | Hi there I'm having issues whenever I use apt-get it says that a package grub-efi depends on grub-efi-amd64 but is not configured. |
| 22:55.50 | somiaj | jellow: dpkg --configure -a (not sure why it didn't get configured but that should work) |
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| 22:56.05 | somiaj | jellow: or apt-get -f install -- if you get any errors, put them at paste.debian.net with the command you used |
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| 23:04.19 | jellow | Hi somiaj, I ran both commands here is what it brought back http://paste.debian.net/167557/ |
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| 23:28.42 | somiaj | jellow: the error islines 3,4 and 31,32. For some reason debconf is locked by another process. Are you running another processes, dpkg-reconfigure or something like that? |
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| 23:29.08 | somiaj | I don't reconize that error, seems strange, wonder if something bad happened leaving you like that |
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| 23:31.39 | somiaj | jellow: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat -- that should tell you what process is locking the config file. |
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| 23:35.22 | jellow | somiaj: I just killed two apt-get process that were being used by root, regardless your command still outputed http://paste.debian.net/167562/ |
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| 23:40.29 | somiaj | jellow: seems pid 3335 frontend (not sure what that is) is locking the config.dat process. |
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| 23:41.22 | somiaj | jellow: but once you get rid of anything locking the config.dat file, you should be able to dpkg --configure -a and get the package to install sucessfuly |
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| 23:43.03 | jellow | somiaj: I killed 3335 an tried to install a package with apt-get and it is now getting stuck on "Installing for x86_64-efi platform." http://paste.debian.net/167564/ |
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| 23:43.58 | jellow | I should have tried dpkg --configure -a , If I ctrl-c the apt-get and kill it will this cause issues with lock file? |
| 23:44.02 | somiaj | jellow: I would have configured that package before installing something new. But just wait. |
| 23:44.17 | somiaj | I woudln't stop it, I would let it do what it needs to do. |
| 23:44.33 | somiaj | but untill I see any errors not sure what is best. |
| 23:44.37 | somiaj | ,v grub-efi-amd64 |
| 23:44.38 | judd | Package: grub-efi-amd64 on i386 -- squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u2; jessie: 2.02~beta2-22; sid: 2.02~beta2-22 |
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