| 00:00.07 | xreal | abrotman: :( |
| 00:00.13 | lazlov | ok, i'm trying debian-8.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso file with unetbootin |
| 00:00.15 | lazlov | thanks |
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| 00:00.33 | xreal | abrotman: again, Debian is outdated before it got installed :( |
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| 00:01.57 | abrotman | xreal: then use another distro, that's your decision |
| 00:02.00 | teraflop | lazlov: don't use unetbooting |
| 00:02.11 | abrotman | dpkg: tell lazlov about win32diskimager |
| 00:02.29 | lazlov | i use this another laptop is debian 7 :) |
| 00:02.30 | xreal | abrotman: I just wonder, what's the logic behind that... would you buy a brand new car with 20 year old technique? |
| 00:02.43 | lazlov | debian 7 + unetbootin + pendrive |
| 00:02.54 | lazlov | other laptop is win8.1 |
| 00:04.33 | abrotman | xreal: then don't use it .. this distro isn't for you .. good luck |
| 00:04.36 | teraflop | xreal: just use the time you spent here compiling kernel |
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| 00:05.18 | xreal | teraflop: the Debian developers should have spent the time to do this instead of discussing about init systems. |
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| 00:05.37 | abrotman | xreal: Clearly you don't understand how Debian works, or the goals of Debian. |
| 00:06.23 | teraflop | xreal: oh im tired of that song ... |
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| 00:07.26 | slowman | How can I reach the operators of #debian. Is there a list, like for #ubuntu? |
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| 00:09.40 | slowman | I hate channels, where OPs are hiding. |
| 00:09.51 | Delf | xreal: Search for "outdated" in https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/debian-faq.en.pdf |
| 00:11.15 | abrotman | slowman: for what? |
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| 00:14.37 | Delf | How does Debian decide which name of the characters to use? |
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| 00:14.49 | scoofy_ | Delf: ? |
| 00:15.14 | bazhang | toy story characters scoofy_ |
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| 00:15.42 | Delf | scoofy_: https://wiki.debian.org/ToyStory |
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| 00:16.21 | scoofy_ | what happens if they run out of toy story characters |
| 00:16.34 | lophos_ | please help, I'm migrating to mariadb and I can't remove mysql in jessie http://paste.debian.net/169469/ |
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| 00:16.48 | bazhang | debian is not exactly released that often scoofy_ |
| 00:17.12 | Brigo | scoofy_, it will be the end of debian.ç |
| 00:17.51 | scoofy_ | I'm waiting for Debian Barbie |
| 00:17.53 | Brigo | lophos_, dpkg says it is already uninstalled. |
| 00:17.56 | heurist | lophos_: try --purge as it suggests, it does say that you have already removed it though, just the configs are there. |
| 00:18.06 | lophos_ | oh thanks. I don't purge to keep the data |
| 00:18.18 | scoofy_ | and Debian Zurg |
| 00:18.55 | Hydroxide | scoofy_: zurg was joked about as a name already. maybe it'll eventually happen :) |
| 00:19.43 | Brigo | Hydroxide, zurg should be the name of experimental! :D |
| 00:19.49 | scoofy_ | with enough releases, sooner or later it is bound to happen :) |
| 00:20.08 | hikenboot | for anyone else using the directions at http://linux-iscsi.org/wiki/Fibre_Channel_over_Ethernet to create luns, in the section where it says "Cheet Sheet" it says In /tcm_fc/<WWPN> what this means and should be written as change into or cd into /tcm_fc and change into or cd into WWPN where WWPN is a name like 00:00:ab:... hope this helps someone else |
| 00:20.09 | Hydroxide | Brigo: they did even better for that - rc-buggy :) |
| 00:20.12 | shay_shay | slowman: its better this way, everyone will treat everyone like they can ban them |
| 00:20.22 | Hydroxide | Brigo: I think the ftp team decided that one rather than the release team. |
| 00:20.26 | SynrG | scoofy_: no, sooner or later it isn't ... if the franchise never dies |
| 00:20.46 | SynrG | fast-forward to the year 2038 and we're on Toy story 12 |
| 00:20.52 | SynrG | :) |
| 00:21.06 | scoofy_ | and debian 23.0 |
| 00:21.07 | Brigo | i looking forward to it :D |
| 00:21.14 | SynrG | we already have more character names than we know what to do with |
| 00:21.20 | SynrG | it will take decades to use the ones we've got |
| 00:21.42 | abrotman | SynrG: According to the naysayers .. we should release more often .. |
| 00:21.43 | shay_shay | debian will never run out of toy story names |
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| 00:21.56 | SynrG | er, but this all belongs on #debian-offtopic (Which i just noticed is not here :) |
| 00:21.57 | xxavi | hi |
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| 00:22.02 | lophos_ | my site is working :) http://paste.debian.net/169470/ does this mean the upgrade went fine? |
| 00:22.16 | xxavi | how can I enable touchpad in Debian 8 ? |
| 00:23.03 | Delf | But who decides which of the names to use? |
| 00:23.10 | SynrG | the release team |
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| 00:23.25 | hikenboot | I would fix their doc to me more readable on this wiki but apparently only administrators get an account |
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| 00:24.52 | scoofy_ | will debian keep offerint init alternatives other than systemd? |
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| 00:26.56 | Hydroxide | scoofy_: the only decision Debian has made is that for jessie, sysvinit remains supported as well as systemd. (upstart too, but now that ubuntu has moved away from upstart with 15.04 LTS I would discourage choosing that option - only chrome os continues to use it in their current OS versions) |
| 00:27.18 | Hydroxide | scoofy_: I think it's likely that Debian will continue to support sysvinit beyond jessie, but no decision has been made. |
| 00:27.38 | Hydroxide | err, ubuntu 15.04 is not an LTS. otherwise I said that correctly. :) |
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| 00:40.41 | vinikon | Dpkg |
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| 00:41.49 | lophos_ | I have migrated from MySQL to MariaDB, when I connect to server it says 10.0.16-MariaDB-1-log (Debian) and mysql_upgrade went fine, maybe I missed something or I can sleep peacefully? |
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| 00:42.30 | lophos_ | mysql_upgrade_info contains 10.0.16-MariaDBroot |
| 00:42.45 | lophos_ | (without root word) |
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| 00:43.43 | microfracture | You should be fine. It's more or less a drop in replacement. |
| 00:44.23 | lophos_ | :) nice thanks |
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| 00:52.56 | karlpinc | hikenboot: You could make a page for debian on the debian wiki... |
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| 01:11.16 | hikenboot | karlpinc would be glad to got a link to the right location? |
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| 01:15.39 | hikenboot | of course now i have to figure out how to create the initiator side of the FCoE |
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| 01:17.50 | karlpinc | hikenboot: You'd have to copy the page to wiki.debian.org. |
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| 01:18.53 | hikenboot | am I allowed to do that? I thought that was copyright infringement? |
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| 01:19.56 | darko | hi everybody |
| 01:20.21 | darko | regarding debian help am I on the right place? |
| 01:20.49 | cjbayliss | darko: yes |
| 01:21.26 | darko | ok, I made live usb with standard debian ( gnome ) 64bit |
| 01:21.45 | darko | asked for username and password, user and live |
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| 01:22.17 | darko | from there I dont know what to do so I can see the os |
| 01:22.47 | darko | I want to feel it before instaling it |
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| 01:23.54 | paragon | anyone using an XPS13? |
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| 01:24.18 | abrotman | and if they are? |
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| 01:24.58 | paragon | Well if no one is using one, any questions I had probably wouldn't be answered right :) |
| 01:24.58 | cafuego | I think it's safe to assume you're not the only person in the world who has one, paragon |
| 01:25.25 | darko | So my question is after username and password what I have to write in the comand line so I can start the live image and play with the os |
| 01:25.30 | paragon | I am interested in getting one, and curious to see other peoples experiences with them so far |
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| 01:26.14 | cafuego | I don't have experiences with an XPS13 directly, but I do have experiences with Dell laptops in general. |
| 01:26.37 | cafuego | TL;DR: I'm happy I don't have one anymore. |
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| 01:27.31 | paragon | cafuego: any particular reason ? |
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| 01:28.04 | Tekken | Anyone else had issues with input lag on Torchlight II? |
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| 01:28.05 | Tekken | :\ |
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| 01:28.44 | cafuego | paragon: Unending hardware breakage and replacement with "remanufactured" components |
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| 01:29.23 | cafuego | paragon: It's nice that the repair dude always came the next day and fixed the issue on the spot, but really 5 times a year is a bit much |
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| 01:30.06 | paragon | cafuego: hmm, well they released a "developer" edition that is running Ubuntu so I was curious if anyone was running Debian on one |
| 01:30.34 | abrotman | the hardware doesn't change |
| 01:31.03 | paragon | abrotman: intel wireless card instead of broadcom, I thought that was nice considering broadcom + linux = :( |
| 01:32.15 | abrotman | minipci card |
| 01:32.34 | abrotman | probably saves them a lot of support calls also |
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| 01:36.41 | darko | can someone please explain me how to start live usb so I can see the os before install? |
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| 01:37.27 | D|nA | https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ darko |
| 01:38.20 | ace_case | Is there a way to set it up so when I remote into it from "computer1" as "user1" it has the same programs running as when I remote into "user1" from "computer2"? |
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| 01:39.46 | darko | D|nA: I have te usb already, on the graphical installer I selected to try the os, after user name:user and password:live doesnt start, have to put some command and dont know what. |
| 01:40.20 | thrackerzod | Is there a way to get an older version of nvidia-xconfig for the 304 driver? The 340 driver does not support my 550ti, and the only nvidia-xconfig in the repos is for the 340 driver. :P |
| 01:40.35 | D|nA | darko what iso you downloaded exactly? |
| 01:40.36 | thrackerzod | And I have absolutely No Idea how to create a xorg.conf file by hand from scratch to enable it. |
| 01:41.07 | darko | D|nA: this: debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-standard.iso |
| 01:41.17 | jerichowasahoax | thrackerzod: i'm curious why you think 340 doesn't support your 550ti, since i'm running 349 on a 530 and it supports everything just fine |
| 01:41.37 | D|nA | if my memory serves me right standard doesn't have a desktop environment |
| 01:41.43 | D|nA | if im wrong, someone correct me |
| 01:42.01 | thrackerzod | Odd. I couldn't get the 340 driver to work with OpenGL on it, and the wiki mentioned "for 5xx" cards to use the legacy 304 driver. I suppose I'll try 340 again. |
| 01:42.47 | ace_case | D|nA, When I installed debian (not sure which image) I had to install a desktop environment. Figured I'd just messed something up :P |
| 01:43.05 | darko | D|nA: I dont know. Can you please point me to the right iso if its not a problem. Doesnt matter the size, my usb is 32gb |
| 01:43.24 | D|nA | cpu 64bit? |
| 01:43.35 | jerichowasahoax | thrackerzod: i can't give you debian specific directions since my nvidia system runs Gentoo, but maybe you need to specifically select nvidia as your GL provider instead of X11/mesa? |
| 01:43.36 | darko | D|nA: I need normal iso like every other linux distribution |
| 01:43.49 | D|nA | 32bit/64bit ? |
| 01:43.55 | darko | D|nA: yes 64bit |
| 01:44.06 | D|nA | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ |
| 01:44.15 | D|nA | select your iso with your preffered DE |
| 01:44.36 | thrackerzod | jerichowasahoax: I'll try that...right as soon as I figure out how. :D To google. |
| 01:44.46 | D|nA | xfce for bit old pcs, lxde for old pc, gnome3/kde is a matter of taste, mate DE too |
| 01:44.50 | darko | D|nA: the official debian, gnome. |
| 01:45.01 | darko | D|nA: so to choose standard or gnome? |
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| 01:45.13 | D|nA | debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso.torrent |
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| 01:46.01 | darko | D|nA: Thank you very much and sorry for bothering. |
| 01:46.12 | D|nA | welcome |
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| 01:53.41 | Turaiel | Hey all, my roommate's computer is having some issues with apt. He tried to install mumble-server, but it's claiming that there are held broken packages, and it is refusing to install dependencies. Aptitude is missing, and both synaptic and apt-get are not listing or repairing broken packages. |
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| 01:54.02 | Turaiel | There are 37 held packages. We already tried to fix it with dist-upgrade. |
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| 01:57.25 | nachos | Hi, I've got experimental in my apt.sources, how can I restrict apt-get to only update from jessie and not experimental? Something like APT::Release=jessie or something, I can't remember exactly. |
| 01:57.30 | nachos | To default the -t command |
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| 01:58.29 | heurist | dpkg: tell nachos -about pinning |
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| 02:03.03 | mi11k1 | hey,im using Jessie, I decided to use SLIM for login, but Marco seems to be running still, can I disable it? |
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| 02:04.53 | D|nA | mi11k1, dpkg-reconfigure macro ? |
| 02:05.32 | mi11k1 | D|nA, I think it did that when I installed slim. |
| 02:05.47 | mi11k1 | D| |
| 02:05.54 | mi11k1 | D|nA, ill try |
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| 02:10.20 | ace_case | I tried googling but I can't find much. Is there a way to have a single session per user for xRDP? I started a program on "computer1" and I can only see it when I remote in from "computer1". "computer2" has a different session. |
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| 02:12.01 | shellox | hi |
| 02:12.14 | shellox | how do i check on wheezy if a reboot is required after installing an update? |
| 02:12.18 | shellox | it installed linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd6 today |
| 02:12.30 | shellox | but there's no |
| 02:12.30 | shellox | cat /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs |
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| 02:13.20 | deego | shellox: if test -f /var/run/reboot-required; then |
| 02:14.00 | shellox | cat: /var/run/reboot-required: No such file or directory |
| 02:14.04 | shellox | so I'm fine? |
| 02:14.30 | deego | shellox: i guess, then not required. But, strange, since you patched a vulnerable (?) kernel? |
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| 02:15.41 | deego | btw, in ubuntu et al, login scripts automatically check that for you. Debian should adopt that, yeah? |
| 02:16.14 | D|nA | no |
| 02:17.23 | Tekken | Hmm |
| 02:17.35 | Tekken | Adopting Ubuntu practices sounds awful. |
| 02:18.02 | D|nA | true |
| 02:18.17 | D|nA | since they don't have same goals |
| 02:18.58 | ace_case | I found out how to do it |
| 02:19.26 | shellox | Tekken: how's that a bad thing to notify the user that you need to reboot? |
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| 02:20.23 | D|nA | shellox, debian is not for 'users' only |
| 02:20.29 | ace_case | In case anyone was wondering, I just had to open /etc/xrdp/xrdp.ini and change the port from -1 to ask5910 |
| 02:20.32 | Tekken | Use ubuntu to learn "when" to reboot. |
| 02:21.43 | shellox | usually i reboot after kernel updates, but would be nice if there's an easy way to see that as well |
| 02:22.22 | D|nA | unnecessary |
| 02:22.23 | deego | shellox: becasue it's ubuntu, and their practices are aweful by default, according to Tekken :) |
| 02:22.36 | Tekken | ^ |
| 02:22.45 | Tekken | Need I say more? |
| 02:22.49 | Tekken | I has spoken! |
| 02:22.51 | deego | see? such sound logic |
| 02:22.56 | Tekken | Yup. |
| 02:22.57 | heurist | shellox: try checkrestart from debian-goodies or needrestart |
| 02:23.09 | shellox | heurist: thanks |
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| 02:24.19 | abrotman | shellox: deego Debian can do that also |
| 02:25.50 | Tekken | I just like to assume all things Ubuntu are evil. |
| 02:26.24 | shellox | abrotman: so debian should have a file /var/run/reboot-required ? |
| 02:26.41 | abrotman | shellox: if you have the right package installed, yes |
| 02:27.10 | shellox | abrotman: i see. Do you know the package name? There are quite a few :P |
| 02:27.20 | shellox | checkrestart? |
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| 02:28.38 | abrotman | shellox: unattended-upgrades IIRC |
| 02:28.50 | Tekken | :| |
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| 02:30.27 | Tekken | All this work for a little thing that says "restart me please" |
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| 02:31.01 | jasabella | what packages do i install to make debian more laptop "friendly"? |
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| 02:32.10 | abrotman | Tekken: it's not your box, you'll live |
| 02:32.17 | abrotman | jasabella: in what way? |
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| 02:33.12 | Turaiel | Issue here is fixed. |
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| 02:33.18 | jasabella | power |
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| 02:33.27 | jasabella | hardware too |
| 02:33.39 | jasabella | (found out i was mssing some packages for bluetooth heh) |
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| 02:36.56 | jasabella | whyd o i have usb0 coming up as a network interface? :) |
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| 02:39.34 | shellox | abrotman: when is wheezy's EOL? I can't find it in the wiki :/ |
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| 02:39.46 | abrotman | shellox: hasn't been stated yet |
| 02:40.03 | shellox | abrotman: but until the end of year for sure or? |
| 02:41.21 | abrotman | shellox: yes |
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| 02:48.24 | deego | In debian squeeze with the default sources, why does apt-show-versions show : bc 1.06.95-2+b1 newer than version in archive when apt-cache policy shows that /is/ the latest squeeze version. |
| 02:48.38 | deego | It shows the same for dc. Everything else is "uptodate" |
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| 02:49.17 | deego | err, in wheezy, I mean |
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| 02:51.47 | donofrio | anyone know what the channel would be for turnkey? |
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| 02:56.49 | ilken | HALP! I upgraded from Wheezy to Jessie and now X wont start just a black screen, i can get tty up but no X how can i fix it? |
| 02:57.42 | canvon | ilken: I had that problem with gdm3. with lightdm it worked |
| 02:58.15 | ilken | ok i try to install lightdm |
| 02:58.17 | ilken | ty |
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| 03:01.48 | ilken | ok fingers crossed brb |
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| 03:02.51 | abrotman | or he installed his fgrlx or nvidia drivers from outside Debian, and needs to reinstall those |
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| 03:18.47 | Smitty | Hello, I just installed debian 7, I'm having slow internet issues. Any Advice? |
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| 03:20.13 | k_sze[work] | On Debian, are the www-data user and www-data group usually created through the installation of Apache2? |
| 03:21.08 | k_sze[work] | What guarantee do I have that www-data will have the uid and gid 33? |
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| 03:25.00 | canvon | k_sze[work]: In wheezy, www-data appears to be hardcoded to 33:33 in /usr/share/base-passwd/passwd.master ; can't check for jessie at the moment |
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| 03:49.39 | pengown | dont think i have enough versions of python and ruby that a program has to need some different one constantly |
| 03:50.00 | pengown | only like 10 versions of each by now |
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| 03:57.03 | shay_shay | hmm this is strange, usb stick is mounting with root:root permissions under nautilus ... |
| 03:59.32 | somiaj | shay_shay: what file system is on the stick? |
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| 04:00.41 | shay_shay | ah i fixed it |
| 04:00.56 | shay_shay | fstab entries for usb |
| 04:01.09 | shay_shay | guess D-i does that automatically |
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| 04:01.30 | shay_shay | maybe if you have a bunch of usb sticks plugged in during install |
| 04:02.05 | k_sze[work] | canvon_: I see. Thanks. |
| 04:02.40 | k_sze[work] | So I have an Adaptec RAID controller in a PCIe slot. |
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| 04:03.23 | k_sze[work] | If I `ls -l /dev/disk/by-path`, I see pci-0000:03:00.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 -> ../../sda1 |
| 04:03.38 | k_sze[work] | I intuitively know that this is my RAID logical volume. |
| 04:03.45 | k_sze[work] | But how do I tell programmatically? |
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| 04:04.03 | buu | k_sze[work]: Because it has an id? |
| 04:04.11 | buu | And its unique? |
| 04:04.12 | k_sze[work] | what has an ID? |
| 04:04.18 | buu | That device |
| 04:04.35 | k_sze[work] | but how do I know this is the device's ID? |
| 04:04.44 | buu | Look it up and write it down? |
| 04:04.50 | buu | What problem are you actually trying to solve? |
| 04:04.50 | k_sze[work] | look it up where? |
| 04:05.01 | buu | In /dev/disk/by-id |
| 04:06.56 | heurist | k_sze[work]: maybe try the lshw command, not much more we can say without knowing more about what you are wanting to do. |
| 04:07.55 | somiaj | shay_shay: that sounds werid. I figured it would only put in entries for stuff you set up during the install with a mount point. (Cept for maybe cdrom drives that have a fixed location) |
| 04:08.13 | k_sze[work] | I need to programmatically figure out the by-path symlink for my RAID volume so I can generate a proper fstab rule when provisioning the machine through Salt. |
| 04:08.20 | somiaj | shay_shay: guess it is time to try to install some jessie vm's so I know the install better. |
| 04:08.38 | shay_shay | somiaj: thats what i thought too but I cant think of any other reason why i would have two lines for usb sticks in my fstab |
| 04:08.41 | somiaj | k_sze[work]: why not use the UUID of the filesystem? 'blkinfo' |
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| 04:09.35 | k_sze[work] | somiaj: because the disk set can be swapped out for another set and we don't want to peg to UUID. |
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| 04:09.43 | Rusty1 | blkid ? |
| 04:10.03 | somiaj | Rusty1: block device id's |
| 04:10.16 | k_sze[work] | I wonder if parsing lspci is good enough. |
| 04:10.57 | k_sze[work] | how do I understand the numbers in the by-path symlink anyway? |
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| 04:11.39 | buu | They're not very interesting |
| 04:11.43 | buu | They're just pci bus addresses |
| 04:12.23 | heurist | k_sze[work]: you can not always rely on those numbers staying the same over reboot, some depend on the order your bios/uefi/whatever enumerates the hardware. |
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| 04:13.49 | k_sze[work] | heurist: Then what can I do? |
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| 04:14.25 | k_sze[work] | I really need the machine to automatically mount whatever volume is round connected to that RAID controller, assuming the volume is always formatted the same way. |
| 04:14.36 | heurist | k_sze[work]: that is what UUIDs are for |
| 04:14.37 | k_sze[work] | s/round// |
| 04:14.58 | k_sze[work] | but the volume's UUID changes between disk sets, no? |
| 04:15.01 | heurist | k_sze[work]: you can also mount by volume label |
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| 04:15.17 | heurist | k_sze[work]: you can set the UUID so something you like |
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| 04:15.45 | k_sze[work] | and that somewhat defeats the point of UUID, no? |
| 04:16.06 | k_sze[work] | Now I have two (or more) volumes with the same UUID. |
| 04:16.19 | heurist | k_sze[work]: somewhat, but you are trying to have "different" device act like they are the same. |
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| 04:17.58 | k_sze[work] | under what circumstances does the hardware enumeration change though? |
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| 04:18.15 | k_sze[work] | So far I haven't seen it change across reboots. |
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| 04:18.38 | heurist | k_sze[work]: k_sze[work] still not sure what you are trying to do. Maybe you can mount the volumes to their own mountpoint and have a script that symlinks the mounted mountpoint to the correct directory? |
| 04:18.41 | k_sze[work] | whereas /dev/sdb and /dev/sda does switch around across reboots. |
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| 04:19.25 | triogenes | can i use apt to somehow tell what packages i have that depend on another? |
| 04:19.32 | triogenes | i just want to figure out why i actually need a package installed |
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| 04:19.41 | heurist | k_sze[work]: hard to predict what hardware does, might be stable enough for your purposes. only you can tell that. do a few dozen reboots over a few weeks and track it. |
| 04:19.45 | buu | triogenes: apt-get depends and rdepends |
| 04:19.58 | buu | k_sze[work]: You still haven't set what you're trying to do |
| 04:20.03 | nitestryker | just use synapse it will tell you all the packages that will be downloaded before it runs |
| 04:20.21 | nitestryker | before they are downloaded |
| 04:20.47 | nitestryker | synaptic sorry typo above\ |
| 04:21.35 | triogenes | yeah, i mean in this case it was already installed.. and i was curious |
| 04:21.41 | triogenes | i ended up doing aptitude why $pkg |
| 04:21.42 | k_sze[work] | buu: I need to provision some machines through Salt. One of the requirements is that an fstab rule is generated so that the machine will automatically mount whatever XFS volume is found through the Adaptec RAID Controller. |
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| 04:23.43 | superfast | hey how to create a bootable usb of Debian Live CD? |
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| 04:23.57 | k_sze[work] | because the RAID is used to collect massive amounts of data and we need to make it as painless as possible to replace the disk set. |
| 04:23.59 | superfast | i tried dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb |
| 04:24.09 | superfast | but it says cannot load Vesa menu |
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| 04:25.20 | tomivs | Hey everybody |
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| 04:26.00 | tomivs | I want to install GNOME from netinst. What command I should run? |
| 04:26.37 | hiexpo | sudo dd if=path/to/iso of=/dev/sdb <-- or whatever |
| 04:27.05 | hiexpo | best to su |
| 04:27.45 | superfast | hiexpo, but it says cannot boot |
| 04:27.48 | superfast | i just did |
| 04:27.54 | superfast | Vesamenu cannot load |
| 04:27.59 | superfast | dd finished well |
| 04:28.17 | superfast | but the USB light was still showing a lot of transfer or something |
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| 04:28.52 | hiexpo | did you vlean the usbfirst |
| 04:29.02 | hiexpo | clean |
| 04:29.13 | superfast | no I did not? |
| 04:29.13 | k_sze[work] | heurist: http://superuser.com/questions/488833/do-pci-pcie-buses-and-devices-always-enumerate-in-the-same-order |
| 04:29.25 | superfast | hiexpo, why should I? |
| 04:29.37 | superfast | it is never required with dd? |
| 04:29.49 | ripdisk | hey guys, anybody know about IRCDs? i'm looking to probably switch to a new set of IRCD/services on my debian servers cos the dev team for the one i'm using, for what i understand, are done with it and it's got security problems |
| 04:29.49 | k_sze[work] | Looks like I should be fine if the BIOS/UEFI conforms to the PCIe specs? |
| 04:29.51 | hiexpo | pm |
| 04:30.10 | ripdisk | i'm thinking of perhaps maybe oldschool ratbox |
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| 04:30.19 | ripdisk | or perhaps bahamut, if that's around |
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| 04:31.02 | ripdisk | oh snap |
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| 04:31.15 | superfast | What should I do now? |
| 04:31.25 | ripdisk | i didn't know freenode uses ircd-seven, that's a friggin charybdis fork or something right? |
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| 04:31.28 | hiexpo | pm me |
| 04:31.32 | ripdisk | how's ircd-seven |
| 04:31.44 | hiexpo | i will show you how |
| 04:32.36 | hiexpo | ok gonna get in trouble |
| 04:32.44 | hiexpo | . Format your USB Flash Drive to use a Single Partition: |
| 04:32.44 | hiexpo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.44 | hiexpo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.44 | hiexpo | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.44 | hiexpo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:34.07 | hiexpo | sorry guys |
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| 04:37.30 | hiexpo | i know better |
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| 04:38.32 | hiexpo | did you get that superfast |
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| 04:43.43 | pengown | I get this postgresql error for owtf FATAL: no pg_hba.conf entry for host "192.168.9.124", user "owtf_db_user", database "owtfdb", SSL off |
| 04:43.58 | pengown | i tried manually adding those entries, which i have done successfully with metasploit |
| 04:44.17 | pengown | but when i restart postgresql, it gives me a bunch of errors about the line i added |
| 04:44.20 | pengown | any clues? |
| 04:44.47 | superfast | hiexpo, no I don't think we require cleaning |
| 04:44.49 | superfast | now it works |
| 04:44.53 | superfast | bs=3M helps |
| 04:45.08 | superfast | well guys Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n is not supported out of the box in Debian Main |
| 04:45.09 | superfast | :/ |
| 04:45.11 | superfast | why is that? |
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| 04:45.21 | superfast | this wifi even works with Linux-libre? |
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| 04:45.42 | Rusty1 | pengown: #postgesql channel no help? |
| 04:45.51 | pengown | didnt know that was a channel :) |
| 04:45.53 | pengown | thank you |
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| 04:46.32 | superfast | Atheros Communications, Inc. AR9271 802.11n <-- this is not working in Debian, why? |
| 04:46.33 | superfast | :| |
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| 04:47.58 | pengown | so many people always have wireless issues with Linux >_> |
| 04:48.06 | pengown | I have 2 wireless cards working right now |
| 04:48.21 | pengown | without any special work |
| 04:48.24 | pengown | i dont get it |
| 04:48.50 | superfast | pengown, but this particular wifi works with linux-libre too |
| 04:48.58 | superfast | it has open firmware available |
| 04:49.05 | superfast | with linux-libre nothing works |
| 04:49.11 | superfast | if it is not open/libre |
| 04:49.17 | pengown | yeah it doesnt make sense to me because ive never had problems across MANY distros with 2 wireless cards |
| 04:49.29 | pengown | especially if it has open firmware |
| 04:49.37 | superfast | https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc |
| 04:49.43 | pengown | i think with wheezy i had to use netinstall to get my closed source firmware |
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| 04:49.54 | superfast | it says it would require non-free firmware but open firmware is available too |
| 04:49.55 | pengown | but like...it wasnt that big a deal to use that iso |
| 04:49.58 | tomivs | I anyone here using Debian Jessie? Can you give me your sources.list? |
| 04:50.04 | tomivs | *Is |
| 04:50.17 | nitestryker | yes i am |
| 04:50.20 | pengown | maybe netinstall would help in this case? |
| 04:50.35 | pengown | i dont know that was a long time ago that happened to me :P |
| 04:50.55 | pengown | for iwlwifi firmware |
| 04:51.08 | nitestryker | do you want my source list |
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| 04:51.29 | tomivs | nitestryker: Yep please |
| 04:52.48 | nitestryker | tomivs, here you go http://dpaste.com/1R9HH9A |
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| 04:53.00 | tomivs | nitestryker: Thanks bro! |
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| 04:53.23 | nitestryker | thats all i have in there |
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| 04:53.36 | nitestryker | at the moment i just installed this a few days ago |
| 04:54.24 | superfast | https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware |
| 04:54.33 | superfast | does anyone have these two .fw files? |
| 04:54.38 | superfast | for Debian Jessie? |
| 04:54.41 | superfast | Kindly share? |
| 04:54.57 | superfast | pengown, can you please do this for me? |
| 04:55.06 | superfast | I don't have internet on Jessie to be able to do it |
| 04:55.08 | pengown | sure |
| 04:55.14 | superfast | Thanks |
| 04:55.45 | nitestryker | i had a few errors installing my copy. telling me i was missing some drivers |
| 04:55.51 | nitestryker | i have them written down somewhere |
| 04:55.51 | pengown | how do you want me to share them with you exactly |
| 04:56.10 | nitestryker | TIGoN/tg3_tso.bin |
| 04:56.12 | pengown | ill help im just a bit confused on what im doing |
| 04:56.22 | nitestryker | thats the error i got when i installed jessie |
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| 04:57.37 | pengown | I've got the page open superfast, what am I doing exactly here |
| 04:57.41 | heurist | superfast: can you not get the deb from https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-atheros and then dpkg -i it? |
| 04:57.51 | superfast | heurist, its non-free |
| 04:57.56 | superfast | I want open drivers |
| 04:58.04 | superfast | I don't use anyone but main repo |
| 04:58.13 | superfast | I am from Trisquel 7 |
| 04:58.14 | heurist | superfast: so? that is a licensing issue not a cost issue. |
| 04:58.15 | pengown | you want me just to make the firmware? |
| 04:58.20 | pengown | and give it to you somehow? |
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| 04:58.30 | superfast | heurist, Price is secondary, its the freedom of the code |
| 04:59.00 | superfast | pengown, https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware |
| 04:59.01 | heurist | superfast: understood. |
| 04:59.03 | superfast | just follow this |
| 04:59.10 | superfast | heurist, Trisquel.info this is what I used |
| 04:59.16 | pengown | right you want me to do the steps on that page |
| 04:59.20 | pengown | then what :P |
| 04:59.21 | superfast | its fully free distro and support this wifi out of the box |
| 04:59.51 | superfast | pengown, use a file sharing site and share the *.fw files |
| 05:00.02 | superfast | from target_firmware |
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| 05:00.18 | superfast | so that can I copy them when running a live CD and check |
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| 05:00.44 | pengown | alright, give me an example of a file sharing site |
| 05:00.47 | pengown | ill do that np |
| 05:01.02 | hiexpo | /// |
| 05:01.13 | superfast | pengown, https://uguu.se/ |
| 05:01.14 | superfast | use this |
| 05:01.25 | pengown | kk |
| 05:01.28 | superfast | use tor |
| 05:01.29 | pengown | gimme 2 seconds |
| 05:01.31 | superfast | if you like :O |
| 05:01.45 | pengown | already using tor |
| 05:01.47 | superfast | it keeps no logs and deletes in 24 hours |
| 05:01.49 | pengown | and a vpn |
| 05:01.54 | pengown | not too worried about that |
| 05:01.58 | superfast | wow tor-vpn or vpn-tor? |
| 05:02.10 | pengown | vpn - tor |
| 05:02.17 | superfast | oh that might be good |
| 05:02.25 | superfast | which VPN if you like share? |
| 05:02.28 | superfast | since I want to buy one too |
| 05:02.30 | pengown | airvpn |
| 05:02.43 | hiexpo | hmm |
| 05:03.08 | ripdisk | your nick reminds me of the gorillaz, superfast |
| 05:03.15 | ripdisk | "just in time for breakfast" |
| 05:03.19 | pengown | airvpn.org |
| 05:03.28 | pengown | been using them for a year I'm very happy with it |
| 05:03.32 | superfast | pengown, oh nice, it has a nice defaults |
| 05:03.42 | superfast | I am thinking about AzireVPN |
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| 05:04.04 | pengown | their client has a nice little network lock button that closes all traffic to anything thats not the vpn with iptables too :P |
| 05:04.13 | pengown | easy to lock and unlock your iptables with it |
| 05:04.21 | pengown | without having to run any kind of script |
| 05:04.32 | superfast | oh thats nice |
| 05:04.33 | pengown | im very happy with them honestly |
| 05:04.33 | superfast | I did not know |
| 05:04.37 | superfast | oh k |
| 05:04.53 | pengown | anyway let me finish doing this lol |
| 05:05.15 | superfast | lol ok |
| 05:05.29 | pengown | its making |
| 05:05.29 | superfast | are you using Debian 8 amd64? |
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| 05:05.37 | pengown | nope |
| 05:05.40 | superfast | omg |
| 05:05.43 | superfast | which one then? |
| 05:05.48 | pengown | 7 |
| 05:05.51 | superfast | :/ |
| 05:05.55 | superfast | it won't work then? |
| 05:05.57 | superfast | or would it? |
| 05:06.03 | pengown | i think it would? |
| 05:06.10 | superfast | ok |
| 05:06.12 | superfast | :) |
| 05:06.29 | pengown | i dont want 8, boo systemd |
| 05:06.39 | hiexpo | yup |
| 05:06.40 | pengown | but i know youre supposed to not cry about that in here |
| 05:06.46 | pengown | so i wont |
| 05:06.53 | superfast | I don't understand systemd, all I see is Free Software with bad design on Youtube and stuff lol |
| 05:06.58 | superfast | I say it works so its fine |
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| 05:07.33 | superfast | pengown, I have noticed on thing about debian's kernel |
| 05:07.37 | superfast | its patched too well |
| 05:07.38 | pengown | my bf got 8 |
| 05:07.43 | superfast | Intel Graphics work out of the box |
| 05:07.48 | wwwBUKOLAYcom | hi |
| 05:07.49 | superfast | toooooo smoothly |
| 05:07.53 | pengown | no root login allowed with x sessions by default either |
| 05:07.53 | superfast | not the same with linux-libre |
| 05:07.56 | pengown | boo on that |
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| 05:08.05 | superfast | your bf? |
| 05:08.06 | pengown | my hacking tools need root logins :P |
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| 05:08.13 | pengown | yeah |
| 05:08.19 | superfast | Oh so I am talking to someone's cute gf |
| 05:08.23 | superfast | is shy |
| 05:08.35 | nitestryker | seems like alot of stuff you need root access to run |
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| 05:08.38 | karlpinc | pengown: If you don't want systemd use insserv instead in 8. |
| 05:08.41 | nitestryker | more then before |
| 05:08.45 | pengown | ... |
| 05:09.07 | pengown | dont be shy |
| 05:09.11 | nitestryker | even stupid suff\ |
| 05:09.33 | pengown | its still making |
| 05:09.39 | pengown | takes a while apparently |
| 05:10.23 | pengown | i configured his 8 for him today |
| 05:10.32 | karlpinc | pengown: Sounds offtopic to me. |
| 05:10.34 | pengown | imma stick with 7 for now |
| 05:10.58 | aswin | i asked this question yesterday, but could not recieve the answer because of internet connection problems. Anyway, my question is this. I installed Debian Testing about two/three weeks back, when Jessie was in testing phase. Now that Jessie is stable, can I switch to stable in sources.list? I have not upgraded much packages since Jessie became stable, just LibreOffice and some terminal stuff I think. |
| 05:11.00 | pengown | i was trying to not complain about it and be offtopic |
| 05:11.02 | karlpinc | (There's always #debian-offtopic.) |
| 05:11.07 | superfast | pengown, I am too much shy |
| 05:11.11 | superfast | :P |
| 05:11.11 | pengown | i was just saying, im sticking with 7 |
| 05:11.17 | pengown | for now |
| 05:11.18 | karlpinc | superfast: That is offtopic. |
| 05:11.26 | superfast | Debian 7 sucks because I want latest packages |
| 05:11.34 | superfast | like latest hplip |
| 05:11.38 | superfast | and intel graphics drivers |
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| 05:11.41 | superfast | libreoffice |
| 05:11.44 | karlpinc | aswin: You do not want "stable" in your sources.list. |
| 05:11.53 | heurist | aswin: do not use "stable" in sources.list, leave it as jessie. |
| 05:11.57 | aswin | karlpinc: can i use jessie? |
| 05:12.03 | superfast | although Debian is not really latest but doing better than Trisquel 7(fully free Ubuntu 14.04) |
| 05:12.03 | pengown | this is taking a while, sorry lol |
| 05:12.09 | pengown | i promise I am making it for you |
| 05:12.10 | karlpinc | aswin: You are using jessie. |
| 05:12.10 | aswin | heurist: will i have issues? |
| 05:12.19 | superfast | pengown, I trust you |
| 05:12.20 | superfast | :) |
| 05:12.23 | karlpinc | !sns |
| 05:12.24 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 05:12.31 | superfast | you are nice and generous and caring |
| 05:12.32 | aswin | karlpinc: okay |
| 05:12.39 | superfast | karlpinc, how is that off-topic? |
| 05:12.40 | aswin | karlpinc: so switching labels is not big deal right? |
| 05:13.25 | karlpinc | aswin: Trouble with putting "stable" into sources.list is that your system will automatically upgrade when a new stable is released. This generally breaks your system. |
| 05:13.36 | karlpinc | aswin: The release notes should be followed to do an upgrade. |
| 05:13.39 | aswin | karlpinc: i meant, changing testing to jessie in sources.list |
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| 05:14.03 | aswin | karlpinc: okay, i will change it to jessie |
| 05:14.10 | karlpinc | superfast: Whether your shy or not does not have to do with debian support. |
| 05:14.24 | aswin | karlpinc: one more thing, I cannot register in the debian, they are calling me a spammer! |
| 05:14.30 | superfast | karlpinc, it does, because with Debian you have to open up to use open firmware |
| 05:14.33 | aswin | karlpinc: i meant debian forums |
| 05:14.36 | superfast | if you are shy you might just quit |
| 05:14.41 | superfast | it is fully related |
| 05:14.55 | karlpinc | aswin: Ask again later. Maybe somebody can help. |
| 05:15.10 | aswin | karlpinc: thanks for your help friend :) |
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| 05:15.34 | karlpinc | superfast: If you say so. |
| 05:15.51 | karlpinc | superfast: Sounds like a good way to get kicked off by an op to me... |
| 05:15.58 | superfast | heh |
| 05:16.05 | superfast | but I am asking productive things only |
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| 05:16.31 | superfast | I am trying to help all the people use Open Firmware instead of non-free |
| 05:17.26 | pengown | i agree you should use open if it's available |
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| 06:04.41 | k_sze[work] | ok, so now I tell that's the PCIe address of my Adapted RAID controller by parsing lspci. |
| 06:05.02 | k_sze[work] | but how about the last 4 numbers in the by-path symlink? |
| 06:05.14 | k_sze[work] | Where do those come from? anybody knows? |
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| 06:06.21 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: If it's a fakeraid card you may as well just use Linux's software raid. |
| 06:06.59 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: adaptec wouldn't be one of those fake hardware RAID, would it? |
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| 06:07.06 | k_sze[work] | but that's beside the point. |
| 06:07.21 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: Usually, no. But who knows. |
| 06:07.43 | k_sze[work] | What I'm asking about is this: pci-0000:03:00.0-scsi-0:0:0:0-part1 -> ../../sda1 |
| 06:08.03 | k_sze[work] | this is a symlink found under /dev/disk/by-path/ |
| 06:08.09 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: The only trouble with real hardware raid is that if the controller dies you lose everything unless you've a compatible controller available. |
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| 06:08.28 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: You want the 0:0:0:0 part? |
| 06:08.41 | k_sze[work] | Yes, I want to know what that 0:0:0:0 stands for. |
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| 06:09.06 | k_sze[work] | because I already know 0000:03:00.0 is the PCIe address. |
| 06:09.25 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: I'd guess it's the scsi address. Controller, logical unit, drive, ... I forget the details. |
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| 06:10.01 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: I also don't recall whether or not it's always stable. Depends on where/how you plug into the scsi bus I think. |
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| 06:10.13 | k_sze[work] | controller, target, disk, slice?? |
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| 06:10.33 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: Right. But I'm only guessing. Does dmesg have any info for you? |
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| 06:12.03 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: There might also be something in /var/log/syslog or /var/log/messages. |
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| 06:13.47 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: It's ultimately going to come from the driver built into the kernel. That hands off the info to udev (which is now part of systemd) and the symlink is created. The real decision making is in the kernel. |
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| 06:14.15 | colo-work | has squeeze-backports been removed from the mirrors now with jessie becoming stable? |
| 06:15.06 | karlpinc | colo-work: No. It will be around as long as squeeze LTS. |
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| 06:16.03 | colo-work | karlpinc, my mirror(s) don't seem to carry it any more... http://debian.anexia.at/debian/dists/ |
| 06:16.06 | colo-work | (for instance) |
| 06:16.07 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: Point being. If you want to know _exactly_ you read the driver source. |
| 06:16.09 | k_sze[work] | karlpinc: actually, it's probably this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/SCSI-2.4-HOWTO/scsiaddr.html |
| 06:16.47 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: Yeah. But tdlp is usually very out of date. |
| 06:16.57 | k_sze[work] | :( |
| 06:17.38 | valdyn | scsi is old enough for tldp to cover it correctly |
| 06:17.59 | karlpinc | k_sze[work]: It probably hasn't changed much since scsi hasn't change. Except where the kernel emulates scsi with sata devices. |
| 06:18.39 | colo-work | hrm, http://archive.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/ doesn't have squeeze either... |
| 06:19.02 | Flying_Squrel_12 | any open box fans? |
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| 06:19.31 | karlpinc | colo-work: Maybe it's a question of finding a mirror that carries it. Or maybe it's in transition because of the release. I bet not every mirror will continue to support squeeze. |
| 06:19.35 | k_sze[work] | I don't actually care where or how the numbering decision is made, as long as it's stable across reboots and there is a place where I can parse it out programmatically. |
| 06:20.04 | valdyn | colo-work: thats look to me like a bug, try "oldstable" temporarily instead |
| 06:20.55 | valdyn | colo-work: err, nevermind |
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| 06:21.36 | colo-work | that should be wheezy by now, right? ;) |
| 06:21.41 | valdyn | colo-work: yes |
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| 06:22.13 | valdyn | colo-work: wasnt squeeze the last release where backports where not an official part? |
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| 06:22.55 | colo-work | nope, afaik that was 5.0 |
| 06:23.06 | karlpinc | valdyn: Yeah... I think so. But the offical backports email regards changes due to the release of jessie said that squeeze would continue to be supported. |
| 06:23.06 | themill | colo-work: squeeze-backports were never on the mirror network |
| 06:23.31 | colo-work | themill, so how come my sources.list used to work perfectly fine until yesterday? ;) |
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| 06:23.33 | valdyn | http://http.debian.net/debian-backports vs http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main |
| 06:24.03 | themill | colo-work: luck |
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| 06:24.08 | colo-work | ... |
| 06:24.37 | karlpinc | colo-work: So, get it directly from debian. Skip the mirrors. |
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| 06:24.45 | themill | colo-work: well have you shown us your sources.list? |
| 06:25.17 | karlpinc | Why sometimes debian.net and sometimes debian.org? My little brain gets confused. |
| 06:25.20 | valdyn | colo-work: ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/ |
| 06:25.28 | valdyn | colo-work: that one works |
| 06:25.32 | colo-work | http://paste.debian.net/169515/ |
| 06:25.36 | colo-work | valdyn, thanks |
| 06:26.07 | themill | colo-work: http.d.n is currently broken wrt backports. That's entirely different to what you were actually asking about |
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| 06:26.37 | colo-work | themill, I see. I feel innocent in being unaware of that brokenness, though ;) |
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| 06:28.35 | wwwBUKOLAYcom | hi |
| 06:29.51 | k_sze[work] | Hmm, if I look under sysfs |
| 06:30.00 | k_sze[work] | there is /sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1c.4/0000:03:00.0/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0 |
| 06:30.03 | deego | Why would apt-get purge kde.* gnome.* xserver.* --no-install-recommends purge grub? |
| 06:30.14 | deego | and grub-pc and grub-pc-bin and grub2-common |
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| 06:32.08 | zotherstupidguy | hi, how can i reizse image to be smaller 50% from commandline??? |
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| 06:32.44 | deego | zotherstupidguy: gif/jgp/png image? use convert, and might want to try ##linux for that. |
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| 06:34.08 | k_sze[work] | I guess I can use lsscsi |
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| 06:34.21 | k_sze[work] | it's otuput seems reasonably parsable. |
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| 06:34.53 | zotherstupidguy | deego thanks |
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| 06:36.50 | deego | zotherstupidguy: yw |
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| 07:03.07 | markand | hello there |
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| 07:03.19 | markand | how can I keep a light version of gnome ? (only the desktop) |
| 07:03.28 | markand | because the default installation adds lot of software that I don't need |
| 07:03.31 | markand | e.g. polari |
| 07:03.36 | markand | but removing it also remove gnome :/ |
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| 07:05.33 | deego | markand: idk. install gnome-core instead of gnome-desktop-environment? |
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| 07:06.14 | deego | nah, nvm, i don't know |
| 07:06.18 | markand | I'll try that |
| 07:06.20 | markand | :P |
| 07:07.15 | mlq | Hello; I've upgraded to jessie and now pulseaudio does not list SPDIF as a profile for my card (VT1708S) - I've checked alsamixer and the SPDIF output is not muted there. aplay also lists the card. Has anyone an idea? |
| 07:07.42 | buu | mlq: is it set up as a sink for pulse? |
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| 07:11.43 | mlq | buu: No, its also not listed under "pacmd list-cards", there is only analog and HDMI. I've read that some profiles like IEC-958 (i.e. S/PDIF) may not be enabled by default on the selected sink? |
| 07:11.44 | rozie | hi again |
| 07:13.53 | mlq | buu: But the profile is not listed under list-cards |
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| 07:14.40 | rozie | teraflop, Brigo it's better now, but still not OK. I suspected it is solved, but when I played YT and changed it CPU load it instantly find out, that it's not fixed |
| 07:15.40 | jacekowski | rozie: sounds like some interrupt mess |
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| 07:15.48 | jacekowski | rozie: try using irqbalance |
| 07:16.17 | rozie | already running |
| 07:16.19 | jacekowski | rozie: it will probably not fix it, but might change when it happens and then that will help with finding he problem |
| 07:16.29 | jacekowski | rozie: did it change anything? |
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| 07:17.03 | rozie | didn't notice change. but yesterday had problem with modules |
| 07:17.41 | rozie | for example playing video on YT and running upgrade in the same time causes sound issues |
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| 07:22.39 | rozie | will check with additional modules loaded... |
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| 07:28.12 | deego | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705971 - this was marked irreproducible, but just happened to me. apt-get install console-setup hung. |
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| 07:32.32 | deego | and, i keep trying to kill it, and apt-get -f install, and then it keeps hanging at that step. |
| 07:33.22 | mlq | buu: I was able to add it manually by adding "load-module module-alsa-sink device=hw:0,3" and it works now, but the other outputs don't show up anymore |
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| 07:37.31 | markand | it's funny that there is a grub theme, a background, but not a plymouth theme for debian 8 |
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| 07:42.53 | deego | Update: Nothing seems to work. Someone on googles had managed to proceed by "toggling scroll lock", but no luck here. stuck in this loop, and apt-get won't do anything. I managed to dpkg -r console-setup and then apt-get purge it. Now, apt-get is clean, and I can try to install the rest of the system.. |
| 07:42.59 | colo-work | (how) can I prevent update-grub from peeking into virtually all block devices, apparently trying to mount them in the process, when a new kernel image is getting installed? |
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| 07:45.21 | rtur | colo-work: you could disable the os_prober in /etc/grub.. config or something like that |
| 07:46.18 | rtur | colo-work: yes, it mouns and checks whats on it to guess if it's a OS. |
| 07:46.20 | colo-work | rtur, thanks, I'll look into that! |
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| 07:48.17 | colo-work | rtur, that's rather dangerous, as it turns out. it reproducibly breaks ganeti (qemu/kvm) guests on plain (non-drbd) LVM for us |
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| 07:49.26 | mactimes | Hey, everyone. I'm facing some issues on Jessie with my legacy Nvidia adapter. My display "blinks" when launching a new application on a new workspace (there are some other situations when it blinks too, but this is the most frequent one). |
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| 07:51.02 | mactimes | The graphics card is NVIDIA Corporation G72 [GeForce 7200 GS / 7300 SE] and I'm running the legacy 304xx driver. Have googled and tried basically everything I could find. Has anyone faced this issue and solved it, or have any ideas on how to do it? |
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| 07:51.51 | rtur | really ? From my debian times I seem to remember os-prober is a non-preinstalled, just deinstalling os-prober can't do much harm, it only is there to provide info for grub.cfg . |
| 07:52.05 | Rory | Yesterday I had problems with my nvidia driver and ended up removing it and using nouvaue. Today my multiple monitors are not working, and only one display is visible in arandr |
| 07:52.22 | Rory | Where should I begin with troubleshooting? Can anyone help me out? |
| 07:53.49 | mactimes | Rory Try installing nvidia-detect and running it. It will provide you with best nvidia non-free driver. Install that and test it to see if it solves your problem. |
| 07:54.39 | Rory | mactimes: I have run nvidia-detect and it recommends installing the "nvidia-driver" package for my quadro k2 |
| 07:54.55 | Rory | This is what I ran yesterday but couldn't get my system to boot to anything except black |
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| 07:55.02 | Rory | I will try to reboot now and come back |
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| 07:55.50 | rtur | Rory: If its black change to a tty and look from there |
| 07:55.56 | mactimes | Rory That nouveau driver breaks did that to my box. Black screen. Nothing shows up. Could log in to gui using nvidia proprietary driver only. You should also install nvidia-xconfig and run that prior to rebooting. |
| 07:56.26 | Rory | I am able to switch to a tty and do things just not atartx |
| 07:56.44 | mactimes | Rory 1) Install nvidia driver. 2) Install nvidia-xconfig 3) run nvidia-xconfig 4) reboot |
| 07:56.45 | Rory | I have already rebooted mactimes can I still run that command from another tty |
| 07:57.01 | mactimes | Rory Ran all those steps? |
| 07:57.24 | Rory | No I installed nvidia driver package and then rebooted. Black screen only but I can switch tty |
| 07:57.43 | mactimes | Rory Nah. Try those steps I just wrote. |
| 07:57.59 | mactimes | Rory See if it solves your issue. I guess it will. |
| 07:58.21 | mactimes | Rory Have you enabled contrib and nonfree in your sources.list? |
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| 07:58.33 | Rory | Yes. I'm rebooting now after running nvidia x config |
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| 07:59.02 | Rory | It gave me a warning about not being able to find a package xserver-xorg but wrote the config anyway. Rebooted and still only black. |
| 07:59.07 | mactimes | Rory Check to see if there are no further drivers: update-alternatives --config nvidia |
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| 07:59.35 | Rory | Only one alternative (one in total) |
| 07:59.46 | mactimes | Rory The proprietary one? |
| 08:00.01 | Rory | I assume so. |
| 08:00.08 | mactimes | Rory Remove that nouveau driver too. |
| 08:00.50 | mactimes | Rory I'd clean up everything before, i.e., remove the nouveau, remove nvidia* install nvidia-detect, run it, install the recommended driver, install nvidia-xconfig, run it, then reboot. |
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| 08:01.24 | Rory | Xorg log says failed to load module nvidia, module does not exist |
| 08:01.33 | Rory | I'll try those steps |
| 08:02.09 | Rory | Would you let me know the package names please for nouveau? Am on my phone |
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| 08:02.28 | mactimes | Rory dpkg -l | grep -ie nouveau |
| 08:03.18 | Rory | I can't remove nouveau without removing desktop metapaxjagea |
| 08:03.21 | Rory | Meta packages |
| 08:03.46 | mactimes | Try installing nvidia driver first. |
| 08:03.57 | mactimes | Rory Then remove that nouveau package. |
| 08:04.00 | Rory | It is installed |
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| 08:04.28 | Rory | Nvidia-driver package is installed, I am able to uninstall the packages if it would help |
| 08:04.34 | mactimes | Rory run with "-s" to see what that will remove. |
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| 08:05.03 | Rory | I have uninstall nvidia* and removed the xorg config written by nvidia-config |
| 08:05.05 | mactimes | Rory apt-get -s remove --purge <packages> |
| 08:05.26 | Rory | Rebooting now, hopefully with nouveau driver but best case scenario I'm back to square 1 |
| 08:05.46 | Rory | Don't buy nvidia |
| 08:05.50 | jelly | uh, there's absolutely no need to uninstall anything nouveau related to get the closed source driver going |
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| 08:06.45 | Rory | OK now xorg log is still showing unable to load module nvidia |
| 08:07.07 | mactimes | Rory apt-get remove --purge nvidia* |
| 08:07.11 | Shadur | ... Huh, so it looks like corosync made it into jessie after all. All of that panic for nothing. |
| 08:07.25 | mactimes | jelly Thanks for the tip. ;-) |
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| 08:07.38 | jelly | Rory: is there anything in /etc/X11/xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ ? |
| 08:07.40 | mactimes | Rory Then install and run nvidia-detect. |
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| 08:08.17 | Rory | I have and it is recommending I install nvidia-driver |
| 08:08.23 | mactimes | jelly Btw, anything you know that I could try here regarding my screen "blinking"? |
| 08:08.40 | mactimes | Rory Have you installed it? |
| 08:08.40 | Rory | Startx gives me an error no screens found |
| 08:08.50 | Rory | ... Then we'd be going in circles |
| 08:08.56 | mactimes | Rory install the nvidia-xconfig |
| 08:09.05 | mactimes | Rory and run it. |
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| 08:09.27 | Rory | With nouveau not nvidia? |
| 08:09.31 | Rory | Does that even do anything? |
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| 08:09.49 | mactimes | Rory nvidia-xconfig will write you a new xorg.conf file. |
| 08:09.51 | jelly | Rory: what's your goal at present time, to get nouveau running, or to get nvidia running? |
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| 08:10.15 | Rory | To get multiple monitors working on any driver, preferably before the daily stand-up |
| 08:10.41 | Rory | I have run nvidia x config and now I'm going to reboot |
| 08:11.02 | mactimes | Rory Did you get a message saying it wrote /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
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| 08:11.57 | jelly | mactimes: there's also no need for a complete xorg.conf, a small snippet in xorg.conf.d/ to force the driver should be enough |
| 08:12.10 | jelly | !nvidia dkms |
| 08:12.11 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
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| 08:12.28 | Rory | OK now all my monitors are displaying a fetching shade of grey but nothing else. It's a step up from black. Looks like x is running |
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| 08:14.06 | Rory | Service lightdm stop, then startx and my screens went black and hdd activity light going crazy |
| 08:15.03 | haba713 | hi! we have several debian virtuals configured to use ldap authentication. now one of them has a problem; whoami: cannot find name for user ID 1001 and also ls -l returns file owner as number, not as username. however, sudo getent passwd | fgrep 1001 returns proper line. how can i get whoami / username resolving working? |
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| 08:15.29 | Rory | http://imgur.com/44lUOGm |
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| 08:19.30 | Rory | Can I change lightdm settings so the login displays? I can only currently get it working with startx |
| 08:20.01 | Rory | The background image is drawn but no login dialogue so it's probably a screen resolution / multi monitor cropping thing |
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| 08:21.37 | deego | When I apt-get upgrade, it recommends gdb. I thought apt-get automatically includes recommended packages? |
| 08:21.47 | towo^work | Rory, instead of useless pictures, you should provide /var/log/Xorg.log |
| 08:21.59 | towo^work | */var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:22.01 | Rory | towo^work: yeah I know but I got it working now |
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| 08:22.51 | Rory | Haha if I hit enter type my password and hit enter it logs me on. So the login box is just off the screen probably |
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| 08:23.20 | deego | lol |
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| 08:24.35 | anddam | I'm using this python package https://pypi.python.org/pypi/keyring#what-is-python-keyring-lib that claims to use "Linux Secret Service" |
| 08:24.44 | anddam | apart the obvious CIA jokes what is that? |
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| 08:25.11 | anddam | I installed it and stored a password in terminal, a GUI window asked me for the password of a new keyring |
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| 08:25.29 | anddam | whose dialog was that? I'm on a LXDE from LXDE install disc |
| 08:25.40 | colo-work | anddam, probably the GNOME keyring stuff: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GNOME_Keyring |
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| 08:26.07 | anddam | how do I check it? I mean package name pattern to look in dpkg |
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| 08:26.27 | anddam | or where in debian menu should some GUI program be? |
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| 08:26.29 | haba713 | my problem was solved. this helped: sudo chmod a+r /etc/libnss-ldap.conf |
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| 08:27.57 | anddam | colo-work: ii gnome-keyring |
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| 08:28.06 | anddam | colo-work: I think we have a positive |
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| 08:29.45 | lophos_ | I jessie, when doing apt-get update && apt-get upgrade I get this, how can I upgrade this package? http://paste.debian.net/169540/ |
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| 08:34.21 | xxavi | hi |
| 08:34.38 | SirLagz | xxavi: hi |
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| 08:34.58 | xxavi | how can I enable touchpad support on console ( i'm running Debian 8 ) ? thanks |
| 08:35.09 | Ticho | lophos_: yeah, I had that too, weeks ago - I ended up just uninstalling that package, after finding out that I don't really need it (via "aptitude why") |
| 08:35.34 | lophos_ | thanks |
| 08:35.45 | lophos_ | I like to have everything in order :) |
| 08:36.04 | Ticho | do your own checks, though, maybe your system does need it |
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| 08:40.57 | anddam | where should this appear in menu? Categories=GNOME;GTK;Security;Utility;DesktopSettings;X-XFCE-SettingsDialog; |
| 08:41.11 | anddam | I installed seahorse but cannot find it, should I manually trigger a menu rebuild? |
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| 08:51.13 | glcx | hey, did the new "service status" information came with jessie ? |
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| 08:54.28 | babilen | glcx: Which "service status information" ? |
| 08:56.13 | glcx | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8hKtKijG |
| 08:57.11 | glcx | instead of "Apache2 is running (pid 16110)." |
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| 09:25.55 | anddam | when I try to add an item to lxde application launcher I don't see all the items I see in the application menu |
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| 09:44.09 | lophos_ | Is it too much 31Mb of swap write in my VPS? |
| 09:44.14 | lophos_ | in a day |
| 09:44.57 | vexoon | Hello Debian guys. Small question. Ive got a debian 7 machine running PLESK12. All basic stuff. Ive installed a cert for the website, httpd listens on port 443, there is no FW as far as I can see, and our Virtual Env also does not block 443....yet when connecting to 4432 I get connection refused. nmap gives a closed for the port yet I cant find where it can still be closed. Localhost telnet works. |
| 09:45.13 | darxmurf | I got this error when I try to add my Jessie to a windows domain : Failed to join domain: failed to set machine spn: Constraint violation |
| 09:45.18 | jelly | lophos_: sounds negligible |
| 09:45.19 | darxmurf | any help ? |
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| 09:45.33 | lophos_ | thanks jelly |
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| 09:46.43 | scoofy_ | Hydroxide: thanks for your reply (re sysvinit). great to hear we'll have the option of choice. i think the day only systemd would be available, would be the day I'd start looking for another distro. option of choice is always great. |
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| 09:48.38 | superfast | why did not debian include open firmware of atheros by default? |
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| 09:50.16 | jelly | superfast: there's open firmware someplace? |
| 09:50.43 | jelly | superfast: open source? |
| 09:51.01 | anddam | lophos_: is ther a limit? |
| 09:51.02 | superfast | jelly, ya, fully open |
| 09:51.03 | anddam | there |
| 09:51.12 | superfast | jelly, it is supported by linux-libre out of the box |
| 09:51.20 | superfast | and not by Debian Main |
| 09:51.21 | superfast | :/ |
| 09:51.23 | superfast | I feel bad |
| 09:51.45 | lophos_ | I don't think so anddam |
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| 09:52.52 | lophos_ | superfast, you mean fully free then... |
| 09:53.03 | jelly | superfast: do you have an URL for the source? |
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| 09:53.40 | superfast | lophos_, ya fully libre, I am coming from Trisquel |
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| 09:53.58 | superfast | jelly, https://github.com/qca/open-ath9k-htc-firmware |
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| 09:54.31 | superfast | it covers two AR7010/AR9271 which are widely used |
| 09:54.32 | lophos_ | It says Copyright (c) 2013 Qualcomm Atheros, Inc. All rights reserved |
| 09:55.00 | Nothing4You | /msg dpkg jessie sysvinit |
| 09:55.02 | Nothing4You | this looks broken |
| 09:55.15 | superfast | lophos_, lol it is fully free |
| 09:55.16 | Nothing4You | tells to "aptitude install systemd-shim sysvinit-core systemd-sysv-." |
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| 09:55.40 | Nothing4You | or is the "-" at the end a keyword? |
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| 09:56.23 | p0g0 | superfast: I'll guess you might best ask in #linux-wireless re the firmware and kernel inclusion. |
| 09:56.35 | lophos_ | you're right superfast |
| 09:56.46 | superfast | p0g0, but debian should include it if it is there in linux-libre by Default |
| 09:56.51 | jelly | superfast: there's already a request but the work to have them built and split into separate package has not been done yet https://bugs.debian.org/751339 |
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| 09:57.16 | superfast | jelly, oh, thanks for looking into it, can we except it in near future? |
| 09:57.21 | superfast | In ver 8? |
| 09:57.24 | jelly | no |
| 09:57.27 | superfast | oh |
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| 09:57.43 | superfast | Can I expect the .fw from you? |
| 09:57.52 | jelly | no new software is going to appear in a stable releasre |
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| 09:58.19 | Rory | What do these numerical modes that debhelper is setting mean? |
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| 09:58.49 | superfast | jelly, so what would the people using the wifi do? |
| 09:58.50 | ws2k3 | Hello, i'm trying to use cpu-freq on my system but /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq is just emty |
| 09:58.56 | superfast | install non-free uselessly? |
| 09:59.20 | jelly | superfast: yes. Realize it's the same firmware, just before the license change. |
| 10:00.03 | jelly | superfast: at least it says so in the bug report, did you read it |
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| 10:00.26 | superfast | the problem is I want it |
| 10:00.37 | superfast | I would compile it then |
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| 10:02.20 | jelly | superfast: so compile it. https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware |
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| 10:03.14 | superfast | jelly, are you on 8? |
| 10:03.24 | superfast | I cannot, I don't have internet on jessie :/ |
| 10:03.28 | superfast | only source is wifi |
| 10:03.31 | superfast | which is not working |
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| 10:04.38 | superfast | I was really excited about trying the LiveCD it seems polished and i really like the performance of Intel Graphics, I don't know how can it out perform without the non-free microcode in comparison with Trisquel 7 |
| 10:04.43 | jelly | superfast: so get firmware-atheros from packages.debian.org on some other machine |
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| 10:05.36 | superfast | jelly, non-free? |
| 10:05.40 | jelly | superfast: yes |
| 10:05.47 | superfast | You are making me go against my principles uselessly |
| 10:06.00 | superfast | it has a opendriver I would want to use it |
| 10:06.20 | superfast | I don't use anything but Main repo |
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| 10:07.17 | cnu- | can i see why apt-get dist-upgrade (wheezy => jessie) wants to install latex, qt etc? |
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| 10:10.18 | jelly | superfast: well, then get wired internet and grab and build the firmware. Or do it on some other machine. |
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| 10:10.53 | superfast | could you please do it for me? |
| 10:11.08 | mar77i | hello #debian. why do you in https://wiki.debian.org/wl advise people to install a versioned package for linux-headers instead of the metapackage? |
| 10:11.22 | jelly | superfast: no |
| 10:11.32 | superfast | jelly, this is not good |
| 10:11.50 | jelly | superfast: you've made a moral choice, now live with the consequences |
| 10:12.14 | superfast | jelly, oh, I would find it and use it, even if you help or not |
| 10:12.18 | jelly | I've made a different choice and consider your request frivolous. |
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| 10:12.40 | superfast | because for me its free as in freedom |
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| 10:13.40 | jelly | superfast: you've got your freedom, accepting help from someone using non-free firmware is pretty much the same thing as using it yourself |
| 10:13.57 | mar77i | superfast: look into trisquel |
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| 10:14.13 | superfast | mar77i, I am using Trisquel 7 already |
| 10:14.23 | jelly | superfast: so copy the firmware from there |
| 10:14.47 | mar77i | superfast: also if you require wifi or video driver apart from very basic support, chances are they're not available to you. |
| 10:14.50 | anddam | I need a terminal color theme that is free as in "readabale", I'm in LXTerminal using weechat in tmux over ssh, who's responsible for the color theme? |
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| 10:15.03 | anddam | s/readabale/readable/ |
| 10:15.28 | mar77i | the terminal emulator, that would be LXTerminal. |
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| 10:15.43 | mar77i | the others just throw ansi sequences at each other |
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| 10:16.25 | superfast | mar77i, where? on Debian or Trisquel? |
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| 10:16.37 | anddam | mar77i: I see lxterminal has little support for theming |
| 10:16.43 | superfast | jelly, Oh |
| 10:16.46 | scoofy_ | anddam: for tmux you an easily design youir own colors. why do you even need lxterminal inside that? |
| 10:16.48 | mar77i | superfast: on trisquel. |
| 10:17.18 | anddam | scoofy_: I don't get the question, tmux is a terminal multiplexer but I still need an emulator to access it |
| 10:17.27 | scoofy_ | hm, right. |
| 10:17.32 | D-Boy | Hello, I still have a strange freeze (the mouse can move but anything else is frozen) how can i debug/fix it ? I'm using the i915 driver (lshw -c video gives configuration: driver=i915 latency=0) the DE is gnome it's pretty the default debian jessie installation |
| 10:17.44 | D-Boy | it happen from time to time |
| 10:18.23 | superfast | mar77i, it works fully with Intel Graphics and Atheros Wifi |
| 10:18.39 | superfast | but Debian requires non-free atheros drivers which is just a bit of a shock to me |
| 10:18.47 | scoofy_ | anddam: btw tmux is easy to customize colors (though not the terminal colors itself, just the frames and stuff) |
| 10:18.54 | superfast | mar77i, is anyone here on Debian Jessie? |
| 10:18.54 | mar77i | superfast: it may well work fine on a tiny minority of devices. |
| 10:18.54 | jelly | superfast: the drivers are free. Some of the firmware is not. |
| 10:19.19 | mar77i | superfast: how is that question relevant/related to what you're actually trying to ask? |
| 10:19.25 | anddam | scoofy_: my issue is not actually with tmux but with weechat, I guess. I mentioned tmux for clarity of details |
| 10:19.30 | superfast | jelly, Firmware is free too, else Trisquel would not include it ever |
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| 10:20.08 | jelly | superfast: you already have your answer and a bug report for the packaging issue. Is there anything else you need help with? |
| 10:20.10 | superfast | mar77i, so that some one can compile it for me right away with a free guide from Debian wiki |
| 10:20.27 | superfast | jelly, ya I do, I am looking for help |
| 10:20.39 | jelly | superfast: copy the firmware from trisquel instead of asking people to waste their time building the very same thing. |
| 10:21.17 | superfast | would it work? |
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| 10:21.27 | jelly | superfast: try it. |
| 10:21.34 | superfast | Trisquel is Ubuntu 14.04 deblobbed |
| 10:21.46 | superfast | ok |
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| 10:22.34 | mar77i | superfast: compile it? |
| 10:22.56 | superfast | mar77i, I have no internet Sir |
| 10:22.58 | superfast | only source is wifi |
| 10:23.06 | superfast | if you are on Debian 8 amd64 |
| 10:23.10 | superfast | it would take less than 8 mins |
| 10:23.13 | jelly | mar77i: but he doesn't have internet access, and he doesn't want to use ready-made binary fw to get it, and he doesn't want to use a different machine to get it |
| 10:23.21 | jelly | tired of this |
| 10:23.25 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ |
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| 10:23.38 | mar77i | for the terminal problem you only need a ~/.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf. |
| 10:24.02 | jelly | superfast: you'll be unquieted in half an hour. Try to solve the issue yourself in the meantime. |
| 10:24.15 | mar77i | what ready-made binary fw? do yu mean you are using trisquel and aren't willing to live with your decisions? |
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| 10:24.56 | jelly | mar77i: precisely that, and he prefers to ask people here to build stuff instead of copying the free firmware from one Linux installation to another |
| 10:24.57 | mar77i | that is quite a moot thing to need. |
| 10:25.17 | jelly | moving on |
| 10:25.26 | mar77i | jelly: thanks for the "solution" :) |
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