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| 00:28.19 | wh0isthis | what text editor are you using? |
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| 00:33.51 | kresp0 | hi, I just installed debian 8 on a SD card but it does not boot. It says "Missing OS" |
| 00:34.13 | kresp0 | its an old 32 bit computer, an eeepc |
| 00:35.34 | moetunes | kresp0: can that eeepc boot from an sd card? |
| 00:35.38 | moetunes | check in the bios |
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| 00:36.38 | bezaban | my old s101 could |
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| 00:36.38 | kresp0 | it booted another operating system from the same sd card just before |
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| 00:36.48 | kresp0 | same bios config, but I'm using the boot selection menu |
| 00:37.05 | phantomcircuit | I cant seem to adjust the DPI for my screen |
| 00:37.37 | phantomcircuit | after wheezy->jessie everything is huge |
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| 00:42.13 | ryouma | phantomcircuit: xrandr? |
| 00:42.28 | phantomcircuit | ryouma, it doesn't do anything |
| 00:42.50 | ryouma | huh, i thought it was as low level as you could go |
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| 00:45.34 | mdim | hi folks |
| 00:46.38 | mdim | I've been having a problem with libvirt+Vagrant in Jessie. No longer can I vagrant-up a machine. I believe the problem is in dnsmasq, which I upgraded a day or so ago. Is there a way to downgrade dnsmasq to see if the problem is in it? |
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| 01:12.50 | phantomcircuit | well i managed to get things to stop crashing by replacing systemd with sysvinit |
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| 01:13.18 | phantomcircuit | dpi is still messed up though and the gnome scale-factor is an integer not a float so i cant just have gnome shrink everything |
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| 01:17.50 | goatkid | Hi debian |
| 01:19.00 | zRecursive | hi |
| 01:20.19 | goatkid | I am having a problem with my Brother printer. It won't print. It does everything but pick up the paper and print on it. I am using CUPS in a browser. |
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| 01:21.20 | isaakk | Suddenly debian boots into just text, and I have to login from there and then do startx, and then I get a black screen with a cursor I can move around but nothing else. |
| 01:21.35 | isaakk | Does anyone have any suggestions on what to check/do/troubleshoot? |
| 01:22.46 | goatkid | isaakk: just curious what is your WM? |
| 01:22.55 | zykotick9 | isaakk: what DM do you typically use? fyi, startx looks at ~/.xinitrc for what DE/WM to start |
| 01:23.17 | isaakk | Uh, it should be the default gnome or classic gnome |
| 01:23.50 | isaakk | ~/.xinitrc doesn't exist |
| 01:24.17 | isaakk | Is startx the right command to use? It used to just boot to a gui fine |
| 01:24.24 | zRecursive | use ~/.xsession insteaf of ~/.xinitrc |
| 01:24.30 | zykotick9 | isaakk: right, that's why it's not loading gnome when you type "startx", you'd need some "exec gnome-something" in .xinitrc |
| 01:24.37 | AlexLikeRock | goatkid, read this http://alexlikerock.blogspot.mx/2014/02/agregar-una-impresora-gnu.html |
| 01:25.07 | isaakk | xsession doesn't exist either. Which should I put stuff in? |
| 01:25.11 | zykotick9 | isaakk: and zRecursive .xsession is the new-school version of .xinitrc (and it's "good" advice to use it instead) |
| 01:25.45 | isaakk | Ok thanks |
| 01:26.45 | zykotick9 | isaakk: i haven't used gdm in years, but does "service gdm3 start" work? or gdm instead of gdm3 perhaps? |
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| 01:28.28 | isaakk | Trying to figure out how to exit vi before I can try anything else... |
| 01:28.42 | goatkid | Alex: I've done all that just the way you indicate. And to top is all off the printer is on a usb! I never heard of a problem with that? I've scoured google. When I get a driver for exactly my model printer 2040hl laser and go to install it turns out to be i386 and not AMD64. |
| 01:28.43 | zykotick9 | isaakk: ESC then :q |
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| 01:28.56 | isaakk | it's saying "37 no write since last change (add ! to override) |
| 01:28.57 | isaakk | " |
| 01:29.10 | zykotick9 | isaakk: :wq to save or :q! to not-save |
| 01:29.22 | isaakk | oohh thanks. |
| 01:29.35 | isaakk | :quit! took me to a weird screen but that worked |
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| 01:30.34 | isaakk | How do I get rid of this black screen startx real quick though? |
| 01:30.53 | isaakk | like I went to ctrl-alt f2 to use vi |
| 01:31.03 | isaakk | but how do I end what's in F1 |
| 01:31.06 | zykotick9 | isaakk: sidenote - vimtutor is pretty decent vim 101 lessons |
| 01:31.45 | isaakk | Thanks, I wouldn't remember it long term though. I hardly ever use vim |
| 01:32.18 | isaakk | Only in times when Debian decides to boot up wtih X broken lol |
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| 01:32.41 | zykotick9 | isaakk: [editor war-comment] learn one "real" editor, vim or emacs choose one |
| 01:33.01 | goatkid | emacs works in terminal. I always use that, if it's installed. |
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| 01:33.50 | isaakk | Is it actually useful to use either as an actual thing for general text editing or such? |
| 01:35.21 | goatkid | isaakk: I use emacs to write by books on. There is nothing better for handling big text files. |
| 01:35.55 | zRecursive | Do i really need "NVIDIA Proprietary video driver" for "GeForce 7300 LE" ? the nouveau seems work well ? |
| 01:35.56 | isaakk | welll, using exec gnome-session gets me a error screen that says "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occured and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again." |
| 01:36.41 | moetunes | zRecursive: it's up to you |
| 01:37.06 | zRecursive | hm |
| 01:37.23 | goatkid | One time I started to get shit like that from X and it turned out to be the disk. |
| 01:37.56 | isaakk | the disk? |
| 01:38.39 | zRecursive | Why doesnot "tab auto-complete" in ERC work in Jessie ? |
| 01:39.12 | goatkid | isaakk: yeah, it was slowly going, and then bad sectors, and then I had to go in emergency and get stuff out. Check it quick if you can on the system disk thingy in gnome. |
| 01:40.28 | isaakk | Ohh that may be it. It was acting weird in Windows and in Ubuntu prior to Debian |
| 01:40.36 | isaakk | and I think on Debian it might still randomly freeze or do weird things |
| 01:41.00 | isaakk | Though I can't get to a desktop at all right now, and update or something broke that |
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| 01:41.34 | goatkid | Check it quick then, and get non-backed up recent things off then you don't have to worry. |
| 01:41.44 | isaakk | how do I check it though? |
| 01:42.50 | goatkid | It should tell you memory loss or some such shit in Freebsd that's what happened. But Gnome has a disk things in settings. Open it if you can and it will tell you if the disk is not okay. |
| 01:43.20 | isaakk | I don't have a desktop right now though is the thing I'm trying to fix |
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| 01:43.30 | isaakk | it started booting up to just text after an update one day |
| 01:44.02 | goatkid | Any funny phraseology popping up suddenly? |
| 01:44.15 | zykotick9 | isaakk: fyi, smartmontools _might_ be able to help diagnoise a failing disk |
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| 01:45.17 | isaakk | Not that I know of Goatkid. It broke like a month or 2 ago, it's my gf's computer and where she lives her internet is too slow to really do anything, and I always hated having to fix nvidia/x in debian |
| 01:45.18 | isaakk | so I'm finally getting around to it |
| 01:45.47 | isaakk | "broke" as in a desktop stopped showing up and I have to do random commands I Find in google until it works again. Debian has always frequently done that to me, due to updates or whatnot |
| 01:46.12 | goatkid | I'm trying to think of something you could run in terminal. Do you have pydf? That might tell you something. If you don't maybe you can download it. It's simple and tiny package. |
| 01:46.29 | isaakk | oh I got it. finally. |
| 01:47.16 | goatkid | isaakk: a desktop? |
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| 01:47.24 | isaakk | yeah |
| 01:47.53 | isaakk | ok so |
| 01:47.57 | isaakk | using Disk Utility? |
| 01:48.01 | isaakk | and then, check FIlesystem? |
| 01:48.05 | isaakk | or Benchmark? |
| 01:48.15 | isaakk | or SMART Data "view smart data and run self-tests" |
| 01:48.31 | isaakk | elpsycongroo |
| 01:48.37 | goatkid | Whatever is most fun at the moment. |
| 01:48.38 | isaakk | wrong keyboard |
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| 01:49.37 | isaakk | well SMART data says everything is good |
| 01:49.48 | isaakk | I can't check the filesystem without unmounting it though it seems. |
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| 01:50.21 | isaakk | Thank you, everyone who helped :) |
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| 01:53.27 | isaakk | Ah, real quick though, right now I'm using exec gnome-session in the xsession file |
| 01:53.32 | isaakk | any idea what command |
| 01:53.34 | isaakk | to get to the login screen |
| 01:53.37 | isaakk | rather than boot right up? |
| 01:55.17 | nurupo | debian 8's i386 netinstall bt-cd installs but doesn't boot up on Virtual Box 4.3.26 on Windows for me -_- |
| 01:55.34 | nurupo | getting x86_64 |
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| 01:57.43 | somiaj | nurupo: did you tell virtual box to use i586 arch (I think that is the minium you need) or 32bit and are running a 64bit os/ |
| 01:58.00 | nurupo | yes, i did |
| 01:58.10 | somiaj | isaakk: you mean y ou want to use a display manager where you log into xorg rather than start it from a command line? |
| 01:58.37 | somiaj | isaakk: install the service gdm3 then you can either enable/disable or start/stop it like any other service |
| 01:58.40 | nurupo | somiaj: would i get an installer working and successfully complete the disk partitioning and installation if the bit versions didn't match? |
| 01:58.58 | soundtoxin | is there an easy way out of this? |
| 01:59.00 | soundtoxin | soundtoxin@supernova:~/manga$ rsync -rv Tokyo\ Ghoul\:re/ tsukihi:/manga |
| 01:59.00 | soundtoxin | The source and destination cannot both be remote. |
| 01:59.00 | soundtoxin | rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at main.c(1279) [Receiver=3.1.1] |
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| 01:59.09 | somiaj | nurupo: I missed your full problem, so the isntall works jsut fine but the boot doesn't? |
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| 01:59.35 | soundtoxin | 3 lines is too many? disgusting |
| 01:59.51 | nurupo | yep, it's a black screen with a blinking cursor at the very top left corner of the screen when it boots |
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| 02:00.02 | soundtoxin | rsync is detecting a folder with a colon in it as a second remote destination and giving me an error even when I escape the colon with a backslash |
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| 02:00.34 | isaakk | yeah somiaj. Installing gmd3 is what made exec gnome-session work. Do I just start gdm as a service without running startx to get it to start running on startup again? |
| 02:01.03 | somiaj | isaakk: once you isntall gdm3 it should automatically configure itself to start at boot, so a reboot would work. |
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| 02:01.27 | somiaj | isaakk: you could also /etc/init.d/gdm3 start, or systemctl start gdm3.service if using systemd. You should logout of your current xsession first. |
| 02:02.01 | isaakk | Ok thank you somiaj :) |
| 02:02.14 | somiaj | soundtoxin: can you rename the folder? colons probabaly aren't the best character names for files. (: |
| 02:02.31 | somiaj | soundtoxin: you might need to escape it twice, once for the shell and once for rsync. |
| 02:02.34 | soundtoxin | I cannot even believe you would suggest such a thing |
| 02:02.44 | soundtoxin | also I tried escaping it multiple times since I've had to do that int he past |
| 02:02.49 | soundtoxin | colons seem to be a special kind of beast |
| 02:03.00 | soundtoxin | ah okay I found the solution after a quick search |
| 02:03.08 | somiaj | nurupo: sounds like grub didn't install properly, you could use the install medium and try to fix that. Not sure why grub failed though |
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| 02:03.23 | soundtoxin | I was in the directory before the folder I was trying to move and typing the folder name so folder:name |
| 02:03.32 | soundtoxin | but putting the full path ~/foo/folder:name worked |
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| 02:04.44 | somiaj | oh yea a colon, yea rsycn is going to think that is a server seperator. |
| 02:04.54 | somiaj | I even avoid using spaces in my file names, life just is easier that way. (: |
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| 02:06.00 | somiaj | soundtoxin: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/rsync-scp-file-name-with-colon-punctuation-in-it/ yea that looks like the solution. Note you could use a ./file:foo relative path over full and it should work too. |
| 02:06.47 | isaakk | man, I saw "Colon puncture" in that link at first |
| 02:07.33 | isaakk | hey somiaj so it's working as expected now, but gnome classic doesn't turn up in the settings for hte user login like it normally does. Is that something extra I need to install now, or? |
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| 02:08.09 | somiaj | isaakk: jessie's gnome doesn't have gnomeclass/fallback mode any more, use a different desktop if you want something similar to clasic mode. There is mate (gnome2 fork) and cinnamon (gnome-shell fork) |
| 02:08.42 | isaakk | aw darn that sucks. |
| 02:08.55 | isaakk | Thanks for all the help, I really appreciate it |
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| 02:28.52 | stanford_drone | Our startup got funded! We're building a personal gaming flying robot. Does anyone know computer vision or Artificial Intelligence? Do you want to come to shenzhen, china from July to October, and work with us? |
| 02:29.34 | N3X15 | no |
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| 02:43.33 | allorder | !seen ozz |
| 02:43.34 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'ozz', allorder |
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| 03:12.15 | shay_shay | question: i need to refresh configs after a dist-upgrade on foo, is "apt-get install --purge --reinstall foo" A. a valid command or B. the most efficient way of doing it? |
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| 03:13.17 | shay_shay | i've been doing it and apt-get doesnt complain about any invalid conbination of arguments, so I assume its fine |
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| 03:18.40 | somiaj | shay_shay: look at the CONF options in man dpkg, like CONFMISS, CONFDEFAULT (not sure if that is it) |
| 03:18.52 | somiaj | but anyways, there are various options that effect what is done with config files. |
| 03:19.16 | somiaj | !tell shay_shay about confmiss |
| 03:19.26 | somiaj | (that is for confmiss, you probabaly want another conf option but the idea is the same) |
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| 03:20.31 | shay_shay | ok, , I am looking |
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| 03:21.33 | somiaj | shay_shay: also note your command would not work for any config file you manually deleted. As per the confmiss factoid, but it works for changes |
| 03:21.53 | shay_shay | yeah |
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| 03:23.37 | Dan39 | whats the point of the max bandwidth setting in vnstat...? |
| 03:24.05 | Dan39 | its always at 100mbit by default, annoying since my servers usually do over 100mbit speeds |
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| 03:34.13 | arielsanflo_ | hello |
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| 03:34.22 | arielsanflo_ | help |
| 03:34.36 | arielsanflo_ | repositorios for debian sid |
| 03:35.42 | Dan39 | o_O |
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| 03:37.53 | somiaj | arielsanflo_: if you have to ask.....you probably shouldn't be running sid. (: |
| 03:38.00 | somiaj | !tell arielsanflo_ about unstable |
| 03:39.07 | ynix | Is there an official reason why Jessie went with XFCE instead of GNOME? |
| 03:39.17 | shay_shay | eh |
| 03:39.24 | a7i3n | I hear it didn't fit on a cd |
| 03:39.24 | shay_shay | ynix: it went with gnome |
| 03:39.26 | Dan39 | ynix: it did? :o |
| 03:39.42 | AlexLikeRock | i like MATE |
| 03:39.47 | a7i3n | oops not jessie... |
| 03:39.49 | shay_shay | GNOME is the default desktop |
| 03:39.50 | AlexLikeRock | its a Gnome 2 FORK |
| 03:40.00 | a7i3n | I'm using i3-wm |
| 03:40.05 | ynix | It did? I read that it went with XFCE as the default. Weird, must have been an out of date source. |
| 03:40.06 | Dan39 | i rarely use a desktop with debian anymore, so wouldnt know <_, |
| 03:40.14 | trevir | well with netinstall it doesnt much matter you can chose. |
| 03:40.17 | shay_shay | ynix: yeah that never ended up happening |
| 03:40.22 | ynix | Dan39: What does your desktop use? |
| 03:40.28 | Dan39 | archlinux |
| 03:40.39 | Dan39 | debian on my servers |
| 03:40.59 | shay_shay | guys, i'm going to meet y'all in #debian-offtopic |
| 03:41.04 | shay_shay | this is the support channel |
| 03:41.08 | Dan39 | good idea :P |
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| 03:41.34 | arielsanflo_ | fine thanks |
| 03:41.43 | arielsanflo_ | muchas gracias a todos |
| 03:42.12 | somiaj | debian gives you a choice of desktops to install. If you just choose 'desktop' you will get gnome. |
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| 03:52.08 | SanchoPensa1 | mornig |
| 03:52.22 | ectospasm | I use Xfce on Jessie, and previous versions of Debian had the update-notifier package, which I used to conveniently remind me that I needed to update package. It looks like that feature has been rolled into GNOME, but I can't figure out how to get it loaded in Xfce. |
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| 03:55.08 | Guest18191 | Hi. How can I fix bad superblock on lvm? |
| 03:55.37 | Guest18191 | Should I point mke2fs -n directly at /dev/mapper/vg-somelv ? |
| 03:55.46 | Guest18191 | and then e2fsce -b sjdfdsjf /dev/mapper/same-lv? |
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| 03:57.39 | SanchoPensa1 | so i would like to uninstall this skype spyware crap from my debian computer, but unfortunately i keep getting these pesky errors, that skype is missing basically the lib32 compat libs, and that i might want to use apt-get -f install to fix this. |
| 03:57.40 | SanchoPensa1 | now heres the question: is debian coded out really so clever, that i have to install 125mb first, in order to be able to remove the damned spyware, or am i just to blind to find the right switch? cos --force-yes doesnt work on this one...? plus i have 13 mb left in the disk. |
| 03:59.52 | Rusty1 | SanchoPensa1: try : apt-get clean, as root , it might free up enough space to complete the task |
| 04:00.40 | SanchoPensa1 | Rusty1: thanks for the hint, but what youre basically saying is, ther eis really no way to purge skype without installing the damned dependencies first? |
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| 04:01.08 | SanchoPensa1 | gentlemen, without meaning to offend, but i consider this a design flaw... |
| 04:01.49 | ectospasm | sounds like filling your disk to within 13MB of capacity is a design flaw. |
| 04:02.05 | SanchoPensa1 | i dont even understand how that crap could go up there without meeting the dependencies in the first plaec but thats another story... |
| 04:02.28 | SanchoPensa1 | ectospasm: yeah... in the size of first gen SSDs :D |
| 04:03.44 | ectospasm | :I have a Debian system with a 60GB SSD, it has ~52GB free right now. |
| 04:03.48 | ectospasm | !ot |
| 04:03.48 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 04:04.21 | ectospasm | so no one knows how I can get the GNOME update notifier loaded in Xfce? Maybe I'm not asking the right question... |
| 04:04.25 | SanchoPensa1 | pointless ... :D |
| 04:05.11 | N3X15 | ectospasm, usually, each WM has their own update notifier. |
| 04:05.39 | hikenboot | hi getting mount unknonw filesystem type ext4 on a partition containing lvm volume (2 to be exact) with root being ext4 as far as I know. this is on a live cd i am building...anyone know how to fix kernel 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 04:06.26 | Doyle | Hey. Is it possible to add ssh keys for users using the preconfiguration file? |
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| 04:07.06 | jelly | hikenboot: you need to bring up the lvm volume group (using vgchange), and try to mount logical volumes not partitions. |
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| 04:09.54 | hikenboot | did vgchange -ay <vgname> followed by sudo mount /dev/<vgname>/root <mount file> -o rw,user |
| 04:10.02 | Rusty1 | SanchoPensa1: i dont know that there is |
| 04:10.14 | hikenboot | result mount unknown filesytem type 'ext4' |
| 04:10.51 | ectospasm | N3X15: I haven't found one for Xfce |
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| 04:11.07 | jelly | hikenboot: is it possible your kernel is missing ext4 support |
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| 04:11.23 | joshumax | Hi. I'm working with a project that uses the Blackfin SoC and I was curious if there's any info on porting Debian to another architecture...? |
| 04:11.48 | hikenboot | modprobe gives me ERROR could not insert ext4 unknown symbol in module or unknown parameter |
| 04:11.51 | N3X15 | ectospasm, you may have to upgrade from the console, then. I don't know enough about Xfce to help you much further. |
| 04:12.32 | hikenboot | jelly how do i tell for sure...i would be very surprised |
| 04:12.38 | SanchoPensa1 | ectospasm: you know what mi really always like about guys like you? i only mentioned that i have only 13 mb left on my 64 gb ssd because it delivers an explanation, why i dont just install the 125mb, cos who gives a crap, you know. that if the sophtware that i am trying to uninstall requires KDE? would i want to install all of it then too, or do i just reinstall all of my debian? so i make a perfeclty valid remark, namely that this is a desi |
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| 04:13.04 | jelly | hikenboot: it should be listed in /proc/filesystems |
| 04:13.57 | hikenboot | proc/filesystems is empty |
| 04:14.13 | socomm | ruh roh |
| 04:14.20 | jelly | hikenboot: if it's not, verify CONFIG_EXT4_FS is set to y or m in your .config |
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| 04:15.25 | ectospasm | N3X15: I already upgrade from the console, that part is easy. I just may not think of it all the time, so a notifier would help. |
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| 04:16.11 | hikenboot | CONFIG_EXT4_FS=m CONFIG_EXT4_FS_POSIX_ACL=y CONFIG_EXT4_FS_SECURITY=y oh and i did an update initramfs -u before building the livecd |
| 04:16.18 | hikenboot | and a modprobe ext4 |
| 04:17.03 | hikenboot | not in that order |
| 04:17.08 | jelly | hikenboot: if that modprobe had worked you'd be able to see ext4 listed in /proc/filesystems |
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| 04:17.40 | jelly | hikenboot: is it visible in lsmod output? |
| 04:18.35 | hikenboot | lsmod | grep -i ext4 shows no sign of ext4 |
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| 04:18.48 | jelly | well then |
| 04:19.51 | hikenboot | sudo modprobe ext4 generates the error unknown symbol in module or unknown parameter |
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| 04:22.08 | joshumax | Anyone have any info to help? |
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| 04:23.03 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 04:23.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 04:24.09 | joshumax | I'm working with a project that uses the Blackfin SoC and I was curious if there's any info on porting Debian to another architecture...? |
| 04:24.27 | SanchoPensa1 | Rusty1: did the trick, you're the man! |
| 04:24.29 | joshumax | ^ Posted this a little while back but I'm not sure if my IRC client sent it through or not |
| 04:24.55 | N3X15 | joshumax, it went through |
| 04:25.24 | joshumax | Ah, ok |
| 04:27.50 | SanchoPensa1 | ectospasm: 72mb free already! :P bye friends! |
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| 04:34.28 | SKlogo | Question guys, whenever I issue startx, i get all these kernel keymap errors and something about not being fatal to xserver |
| 04:34.33 | SKlogo | any ideas? |
| 04:34.52 | SKlogo | Running Debian wheezy |
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| 04:39.23 | Doyle | Which commands are available during preseeding? All the usual stuff like sed, awk, echo? |
| 04:41.27 | Doyle | Found em. Thanks. |
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| 04:47.36 | Guest13479 | THERE'S WATER ON MY LAPTOP KEYBOARD I NEED HELP NOW TO AVOID ANYTHING |
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| 04:48.59 | pencilandpaper | get a piece of toilet paper and soak it up Guest13479 . |
| 04:49.25 | dvs | better yet, rice |
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| 04:49.51 | trevir | turn it upside down and let it dry there are rubber things under it |
| 04:49.56 | dvs | gone |
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| 04:58.50 | jelly | dpkg, tell cheapie about kernel abi |
| 04:59.12 | cheapie | jelly: Ah, I see. |
| 04:59.35 | cheapie | jelly: I'll probably reboot shortly after the 100-day mark, then. |
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| 05:17.52 | Zeranoe | how do I add a user to a group? |
| 05:18.02 | sp_ | edit /etc/groups |
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| 05:20.45 | Zeranoe | sp_: /etc/group* but got it |
| 05:20.51 | somiaj | Zeranoe: adduser username group |
| 05:21.14 | sp_ | pft that's too easy. |
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| 05:24.50 | imMute | Zeranoe: add them to the sudo group |
| 05:26.10 | quarterback | Hello, how to setup a separate log for iptables denied packets instead of having them in /var/log/kern.log . I'd like to create a separate log file /var/log/iptables.log and use logrotate to monitor this log. Can anybody suggest a good technique to do this? Which file do I have to edit to filter denied packets? |
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| 05:29.18 | moondog | Zeranoe: I like using visudo |
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| 05:37.52 | socomm | Zeranoe: usermod and add them to the sudo group |
| 05:38.10 | socomm | Zeranoe: http://www.tecmint.com/usermod-command-examples/ |
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| 05:44.48 | rue_house | off topic, can screen be used to share a console between two computers remotly? |
| 05:45.09 | rue_house | aka, I'm trying to help a guy learn how to use command line stuff |
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| 05:46.18 | t4nk871 | hi? is thes repos good for sid? |
| 05:46.19 | t4nk871 | deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ Sid-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ Sid/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 05:47.03 | imMute | rue_house: yes, but I like tmux better for screen sharing. |
| 05:47.31 | rue_house | command line text? not x? |
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| 05:49.21 | jimbo1qaz | ipw2100 driver kernel panics on shutdown if firmware is missing. |
| 05:49.57 | socomm | rue_house: Yes. |
| 05:50.09 | jimbo1qaz | just before "will now halt/reboot" |
| 05:50.23 | socomm | rue_house: http://technonstop.com/screen-commands-for-terminal-sharing |
| 05:51.46 | rue_house | perfect! thank |
| 05:51.48 | rue_house | s |
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| 05:55.01 | jimbo1qaz | Tried to install Jessie 8.0 x86 without systemd: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd |
| 05:55.06 | jimbo1qaz | Misspelled in-target as in_target |
| 05:55.19 | jimbo1qaz | Then I switched to terminal and tried to run command manually |
| 05:55.34 | jimbo1qaz | It didn't work, had to chroot in and install sysvinit-core |
| 05:55.59 | jimbo1qaz | Got some errors, some package wasn't configured properly. |
| 05:56.20 | jimbo1qaz | Now after rebooting, I get "fake start-stop-daemon called" errors on boot/shutdown. |
| 05:56.22 | jimbo1qaz | help? |
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| 05:56.48 | imMute | try reinstalling again with the correct preseed. |
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| 05:58.12 | jimbo1qaz | another hour wasted |
| 05:58.16 | jimbo1qaz | I'm kinda busy now |
| 05:58.47 | imMute | an hour to install? what? |
| 05:58.53 | jimbo1qaz | debian. |
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| 05:59.05 | imMute | I've installed debian a dozen times in an hour |
| 05:59.16 | jimbo1qaz | this is netinst, not too fast. |
| 05:59.32 | imMute | same here. |
| 05:59.50 | jimbo1qaz | on a >10-year-old thinkpad. let's say half an hour, and it's rather late now. |
| 05:59.57 | jimbo1qaz | do you think there are any other issues? |
| 06:00.03 | jimbo1qaz | beyond startstop? |
| 06:01.08 | zRecursive | How to make `/sbin/shutdown` no password ? |
| 06:03.43 | Zeranoe | How do you enable multiarch support in 8.0? |
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| 06:09.13 | somiaj | Zeranoe: same as wheezy |
| 06:09.17 | somiaj | !tell Zeranoe about multiarch |
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| 06:17.48 | jimbo1qaz | oh, and also the installer froze when syncing the disk. several minutes, zero hdd light activity, I force shut down. |
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| 06:26.20 | Doyle | Hey. What's hte location/name of the preconfiguration file supposed to be? |
| 06:26.38 | Doyle | tftp directory, in boot, or root? |
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| 06:27.32 | anddam | how can I make urxvt jump words with ctrl-left/right and go start/end of line with ctrl-up/down? |
| 06:27.42 | anddam | https://gist.github.com/anddam/a2282b8c35febfef0266 I have this in X resources |
| 06:28.27 | anddam | tried with ^[a ^[b formats as well but I get the same result: when I type ctrl-arrow key I get "0a" "0b" typed in terminal |
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| 06:36.46 | zRecursive | Has debian such a site http://news.gmane.org/gmane.os.openbsd.tech ? |
| 06:37.12 | anddam | zRecursive: a mailing list web interface? |
| 06:37.23 | anddam | also nntp |
| 06:37.46 | anddam | zRecursive: I think debian hasn't |
| 06:38.55 | zRecursive | mailing list archive |
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| 06:40.12 | zRecursive | http://news.gmane.org/search.php?match=debian |
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| 07:22.20 | aflayer | i just upgraded from wheezy to jessie and i'm getting a gnome-shell segfault at ip 8 during startup with a reference to error 4 libmozjs-24.so - never see the gdm3 login screen |
| 07:22.44 | aflayer | i can start up xdm and fill in my login stuff, but then i only get a "oops" and an option to log out |
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| 07:33.34 | Fjorgynn | morning |
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| 07:39.50 | quarterback | Hello Fjorgynn |
| 07:40.18 | Fjorgynn | :) |
| 07:40.36 | quarterback | Anybody familiar with iptables loglevel configuration? it seems like a filter I created for iptables in rsyslog.conf is not catching iptables denied packets in a separate log I configured as /var/log/iptables.log |
| 07:40.58 | quarterback | Fjorgynn: Do you know about this? |
| 07:41.17 | Fjorgynn | never really uszed iptables |
| 07:41.23 | Fjorgynn | it's to advanced for me |
| 07:41.27 | quarterback | Hmm |
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| 07:42.12 | quarterback | Fjorgynn: Iptables is not so advanced except it needs remembering some details , only people who are doing linux administration everyday might be able to use if effectively. |
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| 07:43.27 | Fjorgynn | I have ufw on my vps |
| 07:43.33 | pramsky | quarterback, what does your rsyslog.conf for the iptables look like ? |
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| 07:43.53 | babilen | quarterback: It typically helps if you provide information on what you did. Could you paste relevant commands and configuration files to http://paste.debian.net ? |
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| 07:49.39 | quarterback | pramsky: I included a file called /etc/rsyslog.d/iptables.conf in which I have two lines :msg, startswith, "iptables denied: " -/var/log/iptables.log |
| 07:49.39 | quarterback | & ~ |
| 07:49.39 | quarterback | :msg, regex, "^ *\[[0-9]*\.[0-9]*\] iptables: " -/var/log/iptables.log |
| 07:49.39 | quarterback | & ~ |
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| 07:49.53 | quarterback | Sorry for the flood |
| 07:49.59 | pramsky | paste.debian.net |
| 07:50.17 | aflayer | ugh, now i'm worried its a systemd problem somehow... i noticed some systemd errors in dmesg and someone on the internet somewhere recommended starting stuff as root instead of using sudo and now i have a working gnome desktop |
| 07:50.54 | pramsky | or PM |
| 07:51.09 | quarterback | pramsky, babilen : Here is the conf file of /etc/rsyslog.conf and /etc/rsyslog.d/iptables.conf . http://pastebin.com/4aVW3z6N |
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| 08:12.30 | murosai | are all debian packages based on a compiled upstream version of the software or is it possible that some packages have some usermade patches? |
| 08:13.00 | valdyn | murosai: many have patches |
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| 08:14.54 | murosai | can you see what pathches have been applied to a package? if someone wants to make a new patch, then he would need to download the code from upstream and apply all the previous patches? |
| 08:15.21 | valdyn | murosai: no, just get the debian source and look into the patches directory |
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| 08:18.56 | murosai | oh i see, so for each package i can also find the relevant source code? |
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| 08:20.50 | hiexpo | !patches |
| 08:21.19 | hiexpo | !patch |
| 08:21.19 | dpkg | patch is, like, just a tool to handle text file mutations according to a common format known as 'diff'. For kernel patching use (depending on type of patch): 'patch -p1 < patch.diff' or 'zcat patch.gz | patch -p1' or 'bzcat patch.bz2 | patch -p1' |
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| 08:21.56 | murosai | yeah i know what a patch is |
| 08:22.25 | murosai | but even if a package doesn't contain any patches, can i see the relevant source code for that package? |
| 08:22.52 | hiexpo | whats the package? |
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| 08:23.45 | murosai | this is just a general question, i already found the source for the package i was looking (zsnes) |
| 08:24.08 | Fjorgynn | :) |
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| 08:24.22 | hiexpo | every package is patched diff for a diff kernal/distro so download the source |
| 08:24.50 | nkuttler | murosai: apt-get source to get the source, that includes any patches debian applies |
| 08:25.02 | hiexpo | marbel head compile your own |
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| 08:32.24 | hiexpo | murosai, your in ubuntu askingthe same? what distro you using |
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| 08:33.56 | hiexpo | kick rocks |
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| 08:36.07 | hiexpo | your using ubuntu |
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| 08:39.27 | murosai | yeah using ubuntu, i'll probably just download and build the source from debian repo |
| 08:39.56 | hiexpo | !ubuntu |
| 08:39.57 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 08:44.54 | Fjorgynn | lol |
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| 08:46.01 | totesmuhgoats | hey guys |
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| 08:59.32 | CityLights1 | can anyone help me understand deb packaging? |
| 08:59.57 | hiexpo | !ask |
| 08:59.58 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 08:59.58 | CityLights1 | I see several tools: dpkg-build dh_make |
| 09:00.40 | CityLights1 | I want to package a some pythong scripts and some shell scripts |
| 09:01.06 | CityLights1 | all are part of the same project, no C code is involved |
| 09:01.17 | CityLights1 | so I don't need to compile anything |
| 09:01.36 | CityLights1 | do I still need the debian-helper package? |
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| 09:20.42 | svetlana | using jessie first time, i hear no sound although i know that the driver is installed and loaded |
| 09:20.55 | svetlana | using volumecontrol.app the sound level is not 0 |
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| 09:20.59 | somiaj | svetlana: cat /proc/asound/cards (do you have multiple sound cards)? |
| 09:21.12 | somiaj | svetlana: are you using alsa or pulseaudio? |
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| 09:21.42 | svetlana | only one card HDA-Intel. i don't know which of the two i'm using. |
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| 09:22.02 | somiaj | sure there wasn't an hdmi card listed int hat list (that is common these days) |
| 09:22.14 | svetlana | that's the only one |
| 09:22.14 | somiaj | svetlana: did you install gnome? |
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| 09:22.19 | svetlana | no, i didn't |
| 09:22.35 | somiaj | svetlana: ps fax | grep pulse (so you dno't see any program called pulseaudio running?) |
| 09:22.44 | the_sniff | im using jessie, having 1 interface can i create an IPsec tunnel that won't kill/encrypt all my connection without patching the kernel? |
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| 09:22.53 | svetlana | somiaj: nope |
| 09:22.58 | svetlana | same about alsa |
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| 09:23.12 | somiaj | svetlana: well you won't see any processes called alsa running. |
| 09:23.28 | somiaj | svetlana: try 'alsamixer' make sure the volumes are turned up and nothing is muted |
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| 09:23.59 | svetlana | installing alsa-utils, one mo |
| 09:24.20 | svetlana | augh, terminal encoding issues, give me a few minutes |
| 09:24.47 | ideb | hi. i'm running debian testing, running gnome. i'm having an error when starting my computer in X: problem has accoured and the system cannot recover. please log out and try again. I've ran apt-get autoremove --purge gdm3 and apt-get autoremove --purge gnome* and reinstalled gnome via tasksel. i'm stell getting the errors. who knows what could be up ? |
| 09:25.19 | svetlana | ok encoding issues fixed, i'm reading its help to find how to use it |
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| 09:26.48 | svetlana | http://i.imgur.com/KHpdQjR.png |
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| 09:28.33 | svetlana | i increased volume of the first bar, it's consistent with what volumecontrol.app is showing, but a video file has no sound (i know it has some, i viewed it on another computer) |
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| 09:29.26 | somiaj | svetlana: see that MM undermasetr, it is muted and very low |
| 09:29.35 | somiaj | svetlana: hit M to unmute master and turn it up with the up arrow |
| 09:30.29 | svetlana | yup did that, still same issue though |
| 09:30.35 | svetlana | it's what i already tried before in another app |
| 09:30.48 | somiaj | !alsa-checklist |
| 09:30.49 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
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| 09:31.53 | somiaj | svetlana: everything looks good. DO you have multiple audio jacks for your card in the back? Sometimes intel_hda has lots of varitions (look up alsa sound card modules) and those effect what jacks are used for what (espically with lots of on board sound cards with multiple jacks) |
| 09:32.08 | somiaj | if it is a laptop, sometimes they have a hardware mute sitch on them for their speakers |
| 09:32.39 | svetlana | no idea about jacks. it's a laptop. it has 1 thing for speakers and 1 for mic jack but i don't use them. |
| 09:32.56 | svetlana | i haven't seen the card. |
| 09:33.13 | somiaj | do you have any hardware mute button on the laptop, sometimes that does it |
| 09:33.28 | somiaj | could still be you need to use the correct model for that sound card (snd_hda_intel has lots of variations) |
| 09:33.35 | svetlana | nope no such button |
| 09:34.45 | svetlana | not sure about model vs driver. don't know how to check. https://h-node.org/soundcards/view/en/177/Intel-Corporation-82801H--ICH8-Family--HD-Audio-Controller--rev-03- it is this one, the module it lists at the bottom is loaded (didn't check its version). |
| 09:36.34 | somiaj | svetlana: http://lxr.linux.no/linux+v3.2.19/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt -- if you look up alc262 you will see various models, you could try to configure the different ones |
| 09:37.06 | anddam | !grub |
| 09:37.06 | dpkg | GNU GRUB 2 is a portable and powerful boot loader. Ask me about <grub config> and <grub default>. To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 #grub on irc.freenode.net. See also <grub legacy>. |
| 09:37.13 | somiaj | svetlana: the instructions under Manually specify module parameters https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto work for the most part |
| 09:37.55 | somiaj | svetlana: note alsa force-reload might not be in jessie, just modporbe -r and then modprobe the module after you change which model it uses (one thing that may help) |
| 09:38.23 | anddam | I installed another linux distro on a different lvm group, how can I (auto) regenerate the grub menu in order to have a new entry for it? |
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| 09:38.40 | anddam | svetlana: hello there |
| 09:38.44 | somiaj | anddam: does os-prober not see it? |
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| 09:38.58 | svetlana | ok |
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| 09:39.06 | anddam | somiaj: idk, should I dpkg-reconfigure some grub* package? |
| 09:39.06 | somiaj | anddam: it is a package that looks for other oses and makes appropriate enteries in grub, just need to run 'update-grub' |
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| 09:39.23 | svetlana | hi, anddam |
| 09:39.45 | anddam | svetlana: I recall your name from #gnustep, also I see a ".app" reference in scroll history |
| 09:40.04 | anddam | svetlana: how's getting latest GNUstep on Debian? |
| 09:40.11 | svetlana | somiaj: by the way, the 'mm' does not disappear despite me increasing the value of the bar. |
| 09:40.26 | somiaj | svetlana: did you hit 'm' like I said to unmute it? |
| 09:41.04 | svetlana | anddam: I'm using jessie with some old-ish gnustep I believe. the only thing I compile by hand is talksoup and netclasses. and I would do same with gnumail but it's in NEW so I'm waiting for it to get through and I'm not compiling it by hand. |
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| 09:42.11 | anddam | svetlana: is there a single distro providing a more focused gnustep experience? I remember there have been effort in past (I presume they are all stalled) |
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| 09:44.43 | anddam | somiaj: yes os-prober finds it |
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| 09:44.51 | anddam | oddly my jessie install is shown as 7.8 |
| 09:45.11 | somiaj | anddam: what does cat /etc/debian_version say? |
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| 09:45.51 | anddam | 8.0 |
| 09:46.03 | anddam | IIRC I installed from netinstall a few days before jessie went stable |
| 09:46.17 | anddam | so the install disc may have been 7.8 |
| 09:46.32 | anddam | how can I tell where grub has been installed? |
| 09:46.38 | somiaj | anddam: hmm, well grub.cfg is generated by scripts in /etc/grub.d/, but not sure why that didn't update when y ou dist-upgraded |
| 09:46.55 | somiaj | anddam: like if it is installed the the mbr of what partiton/disk? that I'm not sure of. |
| 09:47.22 | anddam | I installed this fedora and it overwrote the bootloader, not I ran update-grub that I see is an alias for grub-mkconfig but it won't make a change if that config isn't being read by the current bootloader |
| 09:47.35 | anddam | I'm not sure where the bootloader resides now |
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| 09:47.57 | somiaj | anddam: you can use grub-install to install it where you want to. |
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| 09:48.29 | svetlana | somiaj: turns out unmuting did it. the volumecontrol app's mute button is somewhat broken so i'll handle that separately. |
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| 09:48.57 | svetlana | anddam: none to my knowledge, but around now (since the freeze is over) should be a good time to package new stuff. |
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| 09:49.13 | svetlana | anddam: i might learn to do it, but it's a somewhat steep learning curve. |
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| 09:50.09 | svetlana | anddam: then there is the process of making a 'derivative' of debian which is more focused on the gnustep stuff. while still using its repos. just different defaults. |
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| 10:07.58 | sigur | hi! i use jessie x86_64, i downloaded unetbootin-linux-608, then chmod +x, ./unetbootin-linux-608, nothing happens |
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| 10:16.14 | babilen | sigur: I'd ask unetbootin people, that doesn't seem to have anything to do with Debian at all. |
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| 10:47.54 | aflayer | i'm getting messages in dmesg after upgrading from wheezy to jessie: systemd-logind - failed to start user service: unknown unit user@112.service - anyone got a clue what is going wrong here? |
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| 10:51.16 | teraflop | aflayer: that's an user unit so it seems you enabled it manually. Didnt you? |
| 10:52.21 | aflayer | i just did aptitude full-upgrade after changing sources.list to jessie |
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| 10:52.45 | aflayer | i don't think i had systemd before that, but honestly i dont look at things very closely |
| 10:52.55 | teraflop | aflayer: that sounds magic to me then |
| 10:53.31 | aflayer | computers in general seem like magic to me |
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| 10:53.52 | teraflop | Just disable that weird unit then aflayer |
| 10:54.25 | aflayer | there's a bunch more, and my graphical things won't start automatically |
| 10:54.50 | aflayer | like gdm |
| 10:55.21 | aflayer | like, also user 1000 (i think that's probably me, right?) |
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| 10:58.58 | teraflop | aflayer: well. Did you try to disable all that user units? About gdm just enable it. Anyway that user uniits around there, what can I say.. Sounds weird |
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| 11:06.12 | vovkav | hi! I am currently using awesame wm... but I would like to have a window manager that manages in tabbed+fullscreen way, has a system tray and (the thing that awesome doesn't do) unmaps inactive windows from screen. What would You recommend? |
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| 11:18.10 | Fjorgynn | vovkav: aha |
| 11:18.55 | Fjorgynn | can't you configure awesome to have a system tray? |
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| 11:20.47 | vovkav | Fjorgynn: awesome has got a tray, it doesn't unmap windows |
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| 11:31.00 | Vikram99 | i recently upgraded to Jessie from Wheezy, haven't been able to mount my NTFS partition eversince....errors - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5ab83acfd698edd17f52 |
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| 11:31.29 | Vikram99 | says Input/Output Error, the link has output of fdisk/mount/ntfsfix commands |
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| 11:33.05 | Vikram99 | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/81e99bb68d1406f4e3a9 |
| 11:33.25 | petemc | check dmesg/syslog |
| 11:34.40 | aflayer | teraflop: thanks i will google how to enable user units in systemd then XD |
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| 11:35.48 | Vikram99 | petemc: i don't see any errors related to /dev/sda3 (the NTFS partition) in both dmesg & syslog |
| 11:37.03 | Ritzton | I don't understand how is it to get a debian usb key with persistence, I have just created it with pendrivelinux but when booting, there was no persistence option like it is said here http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html |
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| 11:57.45 | Brigo | Ritzton, you can try asking in debian-live, in oftc network. |
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| 12:05.25 | Vikram99 | ^bump^ |
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| 12:23.41 | ZIPY | hi, is there a terminal command to securely wipe entire folders? |
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| 12:24.09 | ZIPY | maybe dd and random data or sth like that |
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| 12:25.11 | petemc | shred |
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| 12:51.59 | arthurfiggis | hmm...for anyone familiar with samba, is there a way i can set things up so that only the directories manually shared by a user are shared? by default it seems the entire home directory folder is shared as well, that's what i'd like to turn off :) |
| 12:52.53 | somiaj | arthurfiggis: sure, modify the smb.conf file and turn off the sharing of home directoires |
| 12:53.13 | somiaj | arthurfiggis: though not sure how to let a user modify or add things to the share list. |
| 12:53.50 | somiaj | arthurfiggis: well without giving the user permission to chagne the config file / restart the samba server |
| 12:54.50 | arthurfiggis | somiaj: ahh okay, i think i see the lines that would need to be commented out :) as for the sharing part, after installing the nautilus extensions for samba sharing it seems to have installed everything else it needed to, so it appears to work fine! was just that home directory sharing i wanted to turn off...thanks |
| 12:55.07 | arthurfiggis | (i believe the user i log in with had to be added to a particular group to create shares in the first place as well) |
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| 13:10.30 | malade_mental | hi, I have a problem with a schroot subsystem. When I check the mounted filesystems, there is 65k tmpfs mounted in /var/lib/schroot/mount/sid*sessionsnumber/run/user/1000 and /var/lib/schroot/mount/sid*sessionumber/dev/shm |
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| 13:11.09 | malade_mental | so my question is how to end this? I already changed STOP_ACTION=none to STOP_ACTION=end in /etc/default/schroot |
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| 13:11.57 | malade_mental | when I do lsof | grep schroot, there is nothing, when I do schroot -e --all-sessions it says that the mounted filesystems are in use. |
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| 13:21.46 | MrDetonia | Hi, I'm running Debian testing and apt is bugging me to autoremove a bunch of packages. However, these packages include important things like xorg, xfce4, and other utils I definitely use. Is this possibly due to a meta-package, and can I 'shut it up' somehow? |
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| 13:23.17 | jelly | MrDetonia: apt-mark manual things-you-want-to-keep-installed |
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| 13:24.02 | MrDetonia | jelly, thanks! |
| 13:24.35 | [RO]Daniel | hello, how can i do a clean install ? i meen i have separate /home partition, and i want a clean install, i don't want to keep the configurations files from home |
| 13:26.53 | Fjorgynn | [RO]Daniel: ou want to erase the entire disk? |
| 13:26.59 | Fjorgynn | or save the /home? |
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| 13:29.11 | [RO]Daniel | no, i want to erase just /boot and root partition, leave home untouched |
| 13:29.28 | [RO]Daniel | but i want to erase those config files from home, to have a clean install |
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| 13:34.12 | dvs | [RO]Daniel: You can install Debian again and specify the mount points your want. You'll have to erase the config files out of your /home partition yourself |
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| 13:36.51 | droid909 | guys i have users in the system, the have patten linke vzNUBER_HERE is this for somekind of virtualization? |
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| 13:49.46 | at0m | helping a friend install b43 wifi on his macbook, dmesg says drivers loaded but iwconfig remains blank. any idea? |
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| 13:51.13 | dvs | at0m: is the firmware loaded? |
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| 13:52.28 | at0m | dvs: i guess so, when dmesg reports broadcom b43 driver loaded |
| 13:52.37 | at0m | how else can i verify? |
| 13:52.46 | SynrG | Grep for firmware |
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| 13:53.03 | ZIPY | petemc: thx, shred worked well |
| 13:53.25 | dvs | guess so? dpkg -l firmware-b43-lpphy-installer |
| 13:53.54 | SynrG | at0m: dmesg | grep firmware |
| 13:53.57 | at0m | ohk says file not found. will grab it somewhere, or b43cutter |
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| 13:54.24 | at0m | oh not found is from webcam, not b43 |
| 13:54.38 | at0m | no broadcom when grepping firmware |
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| 13:54.42 | at0m | from dmesg |
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| 13:55.27 | SynrG | Odd. It should have a message one way or the other, success or failure |
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| 14:00.02 | pippuccio76 | hi sorry for english , i upgrade debian 7 to 8 but dont go |
| 14:00.38 | teraflop | !it |
| 14:00.38 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 14:01.06 | pippuccio76 | the italian forum is dead ... |
| 14:01.11 | teraflop | heh |
| 14:01.26 | pippuccio76 | nothing helpme |
| 14:02.52 | pippuccio76 | can someone helpme to restart debian after upgrade to 8? |
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| 14:11.11 | at0m | do you get past grub? |
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| 14:11.25 | at0m | or did grub2 update break boot |
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| 14:14.23 | at0m | yay, mate's b43 works. we had installed legacy instead of b32 plain. |
| 14:14.31 | at0m | *b43 |
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| 14:17.21 | teraflop | at0m: what exact macbook model is that? |
| 14:17.35 | at0m | teraflop: 8,1 |
| 14:17.39 | teraflop | at0m: sounds to me 2008 |
| 14:17.43 | teraflop | hmm |
| 14:17.45 | at0m | ya |
| 14:17.48 | at0m | 2008 |
| 14:17.48 | teraflop | yeah |
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| 14:18.31 | teraflop | at0m: debian runs there so smooth |
| 14:18.33 | teraflop | ;) |
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| 14:19.34 | at0m | well he reinstalled all after grub2 upgrade w jessie. instead of grub-install on live-cd or so /o\ |
| 14:20.11 | teraflop | at0m: nah, more fun |
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| 14:21.43 | awal1 | atom: I just want let you know that with the release of Jessie, special cd images for Mac machines are available in debian |
| 14:22.12 | abrotman | uhm |
| 14:22.16 | at0m | he didn't know, but thanks, awal1! |
| 14:22.37 | at0m | he netinstalled from i386 jessie iso |
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| 14:24.31 | teraflop | awal1: do you know where are those images? |
| 14:25.25 | teraflop | at0m: oh I see, in the i386 ... |
| 14:25.28 | awal1 | I have seen it in debian cds website, let me check it again |
| 14:25.46 | teraflop | awal1: in the i386 |
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| 14:26.15 | teraflop | awal1: i guess those images are for old macs then |
| 14:26.39 | teraflop | maybe because the efi is in 32 bits |
| 14:26.41 | awal1 | atom: sorry, I confused you with pippuccio76. I tought you are trying to upgrade from wheezy to jessie in a mac machine :P |
| 14:27.18 | pippuccio76 | Awal1 can u help me ? |
| 14:27.43 | pippuccio76 | i update in a deb64 machine |
| 14:28.01 | abrotman | help what? |
| 14:28.20 | SynrG | scroll up |
| 14:28.24 | pippuccio76 | i upgrade from 7 to 8 |
| 14:28.39 | pippuccio76 | changin sources.list |
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| 14:29.17 | pippuccio76 | and run apt-get update , apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 14:29.36 | pippuccio76 | now i can access to recovery |
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| 14:32.31 | SynrG | pippuccio76: do you mean you can't boot normally, only via recovery? What messages do you see? |
| 14:33.04 | pippuccio76 | normalli fsck linux |
| 14:33.41 | awal1 | teraflop: I think that's what you want http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/8.0.0/i386/iso-cd/ see at the end of cd images available. I don't know for which mac is. check it and try it |
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| 14:34.28 | caioau | hello from brazil, I installed debian on ssd, so I put on fstab the discard and noatime options. Is that enough? or do i need to rum fstrim via cron? |
| 14:35.00 | SynrG | pippuccio76: there is no longer a progress indicator. If the drive is still making noise you just need to wait until it finishes. For large drives this can take a very long time |
| 14:35.04 | awal1 | teraflop: exactly this → http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/8.0.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-mac-8.0.0-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 14:35.05 | bazhang | !trim |
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| 14:36.26 | pippuccio76 | Synrg after fsck linux i have /dev/sda1 recovering journal |
| 14:36.42 | pippuccio76 | after /dev/sda1 clean ,.... |
| 14:36.58 | pippuccio76 | after firmware bug |
| 14:37.02 | teraflop | awal1: yeah I saw |
| 14:37.25 | awal1 | teraflop: I'm not really sure that is for macintosh machines. the word "mac" made me think that is for macintosh |
| 14:37.57 | abrotman | tried readint he release notes or installation instructions? It might tell you instead of guessing |
| 14:37.57 | teraflop | awal1: i guess is for old ones |
| 14:38.09 | teraflop | abrotman: old intel ones* |
| 14:38.32 | abrotman | I'm not going to read it, I'm suggesting awal1 read some docs and find out |
| 14:39.38 | SynrG | pippuccio76: is the firmware bug message the last message? Can you show us the exact message? |
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| 14:40.40 | pippuccio76 | several firmware bug , no compatiblr ACPI _PSS object found |
| 14:40.47 | pippuccio76 | the first |
| 14:41.01 | awal1 | abrotman: I don't have a mac machine and I won't have one. that's teraflop concern , not mine :P |
| 14:41.29 | pippuccio76 | than make sure cool'n'quiet is enabed in bios |
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| 14:41.52 | abrotman | awal1: you're the one tellling him which ISO to use. Perhaps point them at the docs instead |
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| 14:42.16 | teraflop | awal1: oh sorry i meant awal1 i just failed doing tab completion |
| 14:42.41 | teraflop | fucking tab ... |
| 14:43.28 | BCMM | since upgrading to jessie, i have a problem with LXDE. it seems that lxsession does not start pcmanfm or lxpanel at login, although they work fine if started manually. does anybody know how to fix this? |
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| 14:45.22 | teraflop | abrotman: now Im interestedi reading more, do I have to download the iso? I cant find "release notes or installation instructions" regarding that _mac iso_ |
| 14:46.24 | SynrG | pippuccio76: does it stop booting? I would like to know the last message. Maybe you could show a photo. |
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| 14:47.47 | awal1 | teraflop: right, I have checked release notes and install guide and no references to mac image |
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| 14:49.31 | awal1 | teraflop: if you want try that image, of course you will have to download it. now you have to search about how the installation must be made. ubuntu also offers mac images, so googling you may find answers |
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| 14:50.45 | awal1 | BCMM: how are you trying to autostart those apps? |
| 14:51.19 | BCMM | awal1: usually, lxsession starts them after log-in |
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| 14:52.19 | BCMM | awal1: i could manually add them as autostart applications, as one would with skype or something, but that does not seem as "clean" as working out why lxsession isn't doing it on its own |
| 14:53.21 | teraflop | awal1: im not going to test that image ... my curiosity isn't bigger enough to do that, also I prefer to install debian amd64 |
| 14:54.40 | awal1 | BCMM: you may want try #lxde too in freenode |
| 14:54.58 | BCMM | awal1: i'm trying but it's rather quiet |
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| 14:56.18 | awal1 | BCMM: I was going to suggest add those apps to autostart file but you dont want that solution. I'm familiar with openbox but not with lxde, sorry |
| 14:56.49 | BCMM | awal1: thanks. i've found lxsession-default-apps, which seems to have a way to configure that |
| 14:56.59 | BCMM | but i'd really like to know where that stores its settings |
| 14:57.12 | BCMM | since it would be best to just wipe that settings file out and let it use defaults |
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| 14:59.19 | awal1 | thats a way yeah |
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| 15:01.22 | BCMM | by the way, what is the replacement for the update-notifier tray application? |
| 15:01.34 | abrotman | teraflop: find the docs yet? |
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| 15:05.05 | teraflop | abrotman: nope, no clue, ill download an mount the iso, im just curious |
| 15:05.20 | teraflop | and* |
| 15:05.31 | abrotman | teraflop: moment, I'm reading |
| 15:06.03 | abrotman | teraflop: https://wiki.debian.org/MacMiniIntel (Unless you have an old Mac, don't think you want that)] |
| 15:06.34 | teraflop | abrotman: thanks!, so my thoughts were right. |
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| 15:07.40 | abrotman | teraflop: See, reading is good .. |
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| 15:08.00 | teraflop | abrotman: I see, they talk about that iso images there, my bad I didnt searched the wiki itself |
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| 15:08.48 | teraflop | abrotman: anyway i did a couple of google searches, i know reading is good but at first you have to find what you want to read |
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| 15:16.11 | [RO]Daniel | dvs, like...just delete them from the file manager manualy? |
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| 15:22.11 | dvs | [RO]Daniel: Yeah, if you use file managers |
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| 15:22.40 | [RO]Daniel | ok thank you dvs |
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| 15:24.19 | dvs | np |
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| 15:24.55 | [RO]Daniel | i have another problem, maybe you dvs can help me |
| 15:25.17 | [RO]Daniel | i have connected my hdtv to laptop always |
| 15:25.42 | [RO]Daniel | but i want the default output sound to be on the normal laptop headphones output |
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| 15:26.14 | dvs | no idea |
| 15:26.24 | [RO]Daniel | everytime i log in to the computer i have to reselect the normal built in sound because it jumps at every login to the hdmi |
| 15:26.52 | [RO]Daniel | it works but it is annoying that i have to keep do that setting every time |
| 15:26.53 | [RO]Daniel | :( |
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| 15:27.35 | [RO]Daniel | this happens only in debian, other distros work fine, but i want to use debian :)) |
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| 15:28.58 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: the problem you describe is persistent here too. I wasn't able to solve it . it seems that it's a pulseaudio related |
| 15:29.17 | droid909 | anyone knows what users like vz123 vz100 doing in my debian? |
| 15:29.28 | [RO]Daniel | i see awal1 :( |
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| 15:29.54 | awal1 | i have to run pavucontrol all the time for switch between devices. it's really annoying yeah |
| 15:30.21 | [RO]Daniel | i was thinking to remove kmix and use only pavucontrol maybe will work |
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| 15:30.38 | [RO]Daniel | but when i try to remove kmix the system says it will remove....a ton of other things |
| 15:30.43 | [RO]Daniel | so...not safe i guess |
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| 15:30.57 | awal1 | the work around is installing 'qasmixer' app and whith a single mouse clic in the tray icon one avoid running pavuctrl |
| 15:31.04 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: I don't understand what the problem is |
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| 15:31.29 | [RO]Daniel | teraflop, i have my tv connected to my laptop |
| 15:31.35 | teraflop | right |
| 15:31.36 | [RO]Daniel | always, i never disconnect |
| 15:31.47 | [RO]Daniel | everytime when i log on to computer |
| 15:31.52 | [RO]Daniel | the default sound output |
| 15:31.58 | awal1 | try qasmixer and see if it helps you |
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| 15:32.04 | [RO]Daniel | is on tv, NOT on the normal laptop headphones output |
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| 15:32.29 | [RO]Daniel | to fix that i have to select again the other output teraflop |
| 15:32.34 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: ah, the headphones |
| 15:32.40 | [RO]Daniel | i will awal1 thank you, i will be back with the results |
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| 15:33.52 | [RO]Daniel | but awal1 i think i use pulse not alsa, is that suppose to work anyway? |
| 15:34.24 | __Outlaw_Milad | guys can i change display's font of irc chat? if yes? how can i do? |
| 15:34.47 | [RO]Daniel | it depends on what irc client you are using __Outlaw_Milad |
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| 15:35.10 | [RO]Daniel | take a good look in preferences |
| 15:35.23 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: it does the job for me yes, I use pulse too |
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| 15:35.53 | [RO]Daniel | and it stays like that or you have to select also but its only much easier/faster to do it? |
| 15:35.56 | [RO]Daniel | awal1, ? |
| 15:36.09 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: maybe playing with pacmd set-default-whatever* |
| 15:36.23 | __Outlaw_Milad | hello guys |
| 15:36.49 | [RO]Daniel | hi __Outlaw_Milad |
| 15:37.09 | __Outlaw_Milad | i'm using mirc |
| 15:37.21 | __Outlaw_Milad | i want to change its font |
| 15:37.25 | [RO]Daniel | teraflop i will try that qasmixer, and if no luck maybe you can tell me the exact command or something, i'm not really good in terminal yet |
| 15:37.26 | __Outlaw_Milad | but i dont how can i do |
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| 15:38.03 | [RO]Daniel | what kind of mirc ? "mirc" the software is for windows i think, for linux is quassel or something, xchat and so on |
| 15:38.08 | [RO]Daniel | wich one are you using? |
| 15:38.10 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: i'm not using it right now. i run fluxbox and I use 'wmmixer' loaded to the 'slit'. and dont remember if it switch between devices automatically, but for sure it's more easier and faster for switch devices |
| 15:38.21 | abrotman | __Outlaw_Milad: Are you using Debian? |
| 15:38.22 | [RO]Daniel | ok |
| 15:38.44 | __Outlaw_Milad | No, i'm using mirc on windows now |
| 15:38.50 | __Outlaw_Milad | i want to change its font |
| 15:38.51 | abrotman | __Outlaw_Milad: so ask them,n ot us |
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| 15:39.01 | abrotman | __Outlaw_Milad: this channel is for Debian support |
| 15:39.10 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: pacmd list-sources / pacmd set-default-source "SOURCENAME" |
| 15:39.24 | [RO]Daniel | __Outlaw_Milad, this is support channel for Debian Operating system, not windows |
| 15:39.40 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: I think it do the job auto too, not really sure. try it after configuring it as you like |
| 15:40.37 | [RO]Daniel | i install it and all i see is one master volume, nothing else |
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| 15:41.31 | awal1 | check config |
| 15:41.43 | awal1 | or preferences |
| 15:42.14 | [RO]Daniel | i did, i found something |
| 15:42.23 | [RO]Daniel | i will restart to test and get back, thx guys |
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| 15:47.28 | pippuccio76 | hi , after not good upgrade , i reinstall with unetbootin a new s.o but the problem is the same....i cannot start the sistem |
| 15:47.40 | dvs | !unetbootin |
| 15:47.40 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 15:49.25 | pippuccio76 | i must reinstall ? |
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| 15:50.06 | dvs | pippuccio76: You still havent described what is happening. |
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| 15:50.16 | babilen | pippuccio76: You should copy the image *directly* to the usb stick. Which operating system do you use to prepare it? |
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| 15:50.45 | awal1 | pippuccio76: you cant use a cd image for avoid "complications"? |
| 15:50.55 | babilen | The best course of action crucially depends on what "i cannot start the sistem" actually means |
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| 15:51.25 | pippuccio76 | with unetbootin i select the iso and create an usb bootable,than i iinstall the s.o |
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| 15:51.42 | babilen | Okay, on which operating system do you do that? |
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| 15:51.55 | babilen | And what is a "s.o" ? |
| 15:52.02 | pippuccio76 | on debian7 |
| 15:52.06 | dvs | babilen: iso? |
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| 15:52.45 | [RO]Daniel | back, it's not working |
| 15:52.49 | babilen | pippuccio76: Why do you have to install Debian if you have Debian already? |
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| 15:53.11 | [RO]Daniel | and it's bad because i do some stuff, i can hear audacious but no more vlc and vice versa |
| 15:53.16 | [RO]Daniel | ... |
| 15:53.18 | pippuccio76 | because i have debian 7 , itry to upgrade to 8 but dont'go |
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| 15:53.46 | dvs | pippuccio76: Follow the instruction on Chapter 4 of the Release Notes for Debian 8. |
| 15:53.53 | babilen | pippuccio76: On Debian all you have to do to write the installer to an USB stick is "cp /path/to/the/image.iso /dev/sdX ; sync" with /dev/sdX being something like /dev/sdb and the device node of your usb stick (see "dmesg" after plugging it in) |
| 15:53.57 | jelly | babilen: s.o ~ OS in italian, probably |
| 15:54.13 | babilen | jelly: Ah, wonderful |
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| 15:55.14 | pippuccio76 | but i have installing the s.o until the end, at the restart i have the same problem with upgrade.... |
| 15:55.40 | babilen | pippuccio76: So, you have three options now: 1. You upgrade Debian 7 and we help you with that (read: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/index.en.html ) 2. You tell us what your problems with starting the system are 3. You prepare the installer in a supported way (see above) and reinstall |
| 15:55.41 | dvs | pippuccio76: You still haven't described what it is doing when you start it. |
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| 15:56.11 | pippuccio76 | Start fsck linux |
| 15:56.13 | babilen | It might be that 1. is no longer an option because you overwrote that installation |
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| 15:56.57 | pippuccio76 | /dev/sda1 recovery journal |
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| 15:57.16 | pippuccio76 | /dev/sda1 : clean |
| 15:57.28 | pippuccio76 | after several firmware bug |
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| 15:59.43 | pippuccio76 | babilen the sistem go until grub , and start than appears this problem |
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| 16:00.37 | babilen | It looks quite fine so far and you haven't mentioned what happens then. It is also not quite clear what those "firmware bugs" are. |
| 16:01.08 | pippuccio76 | No compatible ACPI _PSS object found the first |
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| 16:01.46 | pippuccio76 | First,make sure Cool'N 'Quiet is enabled in the BIOS |
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| 16:01.52 | pippuccio76 | the second |
| 16:02.41 | pippuccio76 | If that doesn't help try upgrading your bios (the third) |
| 16:02.55 | pippuccio76 | and repeat 2 twice |
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| 16:05.20 | pippuccio76 | i have the latest bios .... |
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| 16:07.32 | pippuccio76 | now i restart and no firmware bug , only fsck but this time on /dev/sdb1 |
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| 16:10.13 | pippuccio76 | babilen are u read my post? |
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| 16:15.02 | Doyle | Hey. Where are the OS installation logs? |
| 16:15.33 | pippuccio76 | Doyle : is an answer for me? |
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| 16:16.01 | Doyle | It's a Q |
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| 16:16.39 | pippuccio76 | how can i see this? I can run the recovery ... it ok? |
| 16:17.54 | pippuccio76 | ulisse04 |
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| 16:18.05 | pippuccio76 | sorry... |
| 16:18.33 | pippuccio76 | im in recovery mode |
| 16:18.49 | pippuccio76 | can you help me ? |
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| 16:20.15 | pippuccio76 | can i write some to start this o.s ? |
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| 16:22.08 | pippuccio76 | is hardware problem? |
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| 16:23.11 | teraflop | pippuccio76: I think it's a communication problem |
| 16:23.52 | pippuccio76 | teraflop , must i reinstall debian7? |
| 16:24.14 | teraflop | pippuccio76: I really don't know, sorry |
| 16:25.00 | pippuccio76 | who can help me? |
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| 16:26.33 | Doyle | pippuccio76: take all of what you were just saying, and put it on superuser.com. Also, can you repost it here in a single question? |
| 16:27.47 | Doyle | Does preconfiguration os setup do any logging? It failed to create a user and I want to know why |
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| 16:28.27 | pippuccio76 | no |
| 16:28.38 | pippuccio76 | i access to grub only |
| 16:28.44 | valdyn | Doyle: see /var/log/installer/ |
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| 16:30.18 | [RO]Daniel | no matter what i do it still not working properly, still autoselecting hdmi sound instead of normal :( |
| 16:30.35 | Doyle | Eesh, I looked directly at that and didnt' see it. |
| 16:30.39 | Doyle | Thanks valdyn |
| 16:31.10 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: click the icon to set default in pavucontrol |
| 16:31.11 | pippuccio76 | Doyle: i try to upgrade from debian 7 to 8 when i restart the s.o dont go . i download an iso and install it with unetbootin and reinstall the s.o ,at the restart same proble |
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| 16:31.27 | [RO]Daniel | i don't know how people say that this is the most stable system when this is wrong for a lot of people and it has not been fixed :( |
| 16:32.02 | [RO]Daniel | valdyn, i tryied qasmixer, pavucontrol, default kmix, setting default from terminal...nothing works |
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| 16:32.13 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: of course it works |
| 16:32.20 | [RO]Daniel | if you know any other way to try to make normal sound default pls tell me |
| 16:32.25 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: i dont know why or what you are doing wrong, obviously |
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| 16:32.39 | [RO]Daniel | did u understand what's the problem? |
| 16:32.44 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: i just told you, see the button in pavucontrol |
| 16:32.47 | Doyle | [RO]Daniel: Many of the people using Debian are using them in headless servers. None of this gui environment jazz to mess with. |
| 16:32.58 | [RO]Daniel | i see |
| 16:33.00 | Doyle | xfce, gnome... other issues. |
| 16:33.10 | Doyle | Debian is slick though. |
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| 16:33.32 | [RO]Daniel | i tryied with gnome also, now it's kde, it;s the same problem so i think it's a system problem not a DE problem |
| 16:33.34 | valdyn | it isn't really debians fault that to him its non-obvious how to set default sound device |
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| 16:33.47 | [RO]Daniel | valdyn, :) |
| 16:33.51 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: you need to do what i told you in pavucontrol |
| 16:33.55 | pippuccio76 | Valdyn: can u help me? |
| 16:34.01 | [RO]Daniel | i know how to set them in pavucontrol and kmix and others |
| 16:34.09 | [RO]Daniel | but the system does not "remember" the choice |
| 16:34.17 | [RO]Daniel | after every restart it jumps to hdmi |
| 16:34.33 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: that does not sound plausible |
| 16:34.40 | [RO]Daniel | another guy had the same problem here and no solution for him either, i'm not the only one |
| 16:34.47 | [RO]Daniel | i know, i am surprised also |
| 16:34.53 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: i think you are *not* really setting the default device *and* the current device |
| 16:35.11 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: because pulse remembers the default and it also remembers the per-app setting |
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| 16:35.32 | [RO]Daniel | and for any other distro i had no similar problem, oonly this i don't know what to do to fix it |
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| 16:36.05 | [RO]Daniel | ok valdyn , tell me exact what to do, i have debian 8 stable kde default install, so kwin |
| 16:36.17 | [RO]Daniel | kmix sorry |
| 16:36.40 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: im telling you how to do this in pavucontrol, nowhere else |
| 16:37.03 | [RO]Daniel | do i let everything as it is? no uninstall anything, just install pavucontrol? |
| 16:37.10 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: see what's saved in ~/.pulse/ |
| 16:37.19 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: yes |
| 16:37.29 | [RO]Daniel | ok, a moment pls |
| 16:37.43 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: im assuming your system uses pulseaudio obviously |
| 16:38.04 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: if it's not, then im not going to help you. |
| 16:38.40 | [RO]Daniel | i think it does, i dont know how to check, it's the default install of debian 8 kde |
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| 16:39.35 | pippuccio76 | i try to upgrade from debian 7 to 8 but the system dont go , i download an iso and reinstall the s.o. but the problem is the same , the system start until grub , after dont go |
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| 16:40.25 | [RO]Daniel | ok valdyn i am in pavucontrol window |
| 16:40.30 | [RO]Daniel | what do i do next? |
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| 16:46.53 | pippuccio76 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.06 | sydney_untangle | nomodeset? |
| 16:47.25 | sydney_untangle | Mayber you need a kernel parameter. |
| 16:47.31 | sydney_untangle | Im afk, sorry. |
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| 16:48.23 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: tried with pacmd? |
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| 16:50.30 | polyphagia | [RO]Daniel: so your sound output is going to hdmi instead of line out? |
| 16:50.37 | polyphagia | and you can't figure out how to change it back? |
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| 16:52.10 | teraflop | polyphagia: afaik it is routet by the hdmi to the tv but he wants it to be routed to the headphones .... |
| 16:52.27 | teraflop | Routed* |
| 16:52.52 | [RO]Daniel | i tried with pacmd teraflop , no luck no matter what i select in there |
| 16:52.56 | [RO]Daniel | yes polyphagia |
| 16:53.23 | polyphagia | [RO]Daniel: go to pavucontrol and then to the 'output devices' tab |
| 16:53.28 | polyphagia | and set the fallback to the line out |
| 16:53.35 | polyphagia | the green icon |
| 16:53.37 | [RO]Daniel | i know how to change it back polyphagia but i have to do that after every restart/shutdown |
| 16:53.45 | polyphagia | oh |
| 16:53.46 | at0m | i use amixer cset numid=3 0, to set to auto, 3 1 for analog and 3 0 for hdmi |
| 16:53.48 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: no luck with what? What did you tried exactly? |
| 16:53.57 | polyphagia | well read the manpage for pacmd and add it to your ~/.xsession |
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| 16:54.09 | at0m | oh no pulse here |
| 16:54.18 | polyphagia | i think he's on KDE so he's got pulse |
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| 16:54.53 | [RO]Daniel | teraflop, i look first what "names" do i have, and then set each of them one by one to default and no difference |
| 16:54.55 | [RO]Daniel | i am on kde |
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| 16:55.01 | [RO]Daniel | debian 8 stable kde |
| 16:55.32 | [RO]Daniel | but in gnome is the same thing, i had gnome before |
| 16:55.41 | polyphagia | [RO]Daniel: pacmd list-sinks |
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| 16:56.05 | polyphagia | then pacmd set-default-sink <index> |
| 16:56.07 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: sorry it does not make sense to me. I meant exactly |
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| 16:56.21 | polyphagia | so if you can do it with pacmd, then you can add that to xsession or something |
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| 16:56.58 | polyphagia | oh even better |
| 16:56.58 | awal1 | valdyn: same issue here, I tell you: default output device in pavuctrl is speaker (internal speakers) If I plug microphones they are detected automatically and I have sound via microphone. but the problem is: if I unplug the microphones system doesn't switch automatically to internal speakers; I have to run pavucontrol and select manually speakers. all the time, the guy have similar problem. resume: system doesn't switch between devices automatically |
| 16:57.08 | polyphagia | you can edit the /etc/pulse/client.conf i think |
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| 16:58.11 | teraflop | Pebcak happens most of the time so a vague I did ... May not be accurate |
| 16:59.13 | kresp0 | has someone installed debian 8 on the Utilite? Here is some info using wheezy on that computer: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/CompuLab/PC-Utilite/wheezy but still not sure :/ |
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| 17:00.36 | awal1 | If I poweroff my machine with microphone or external headphones and then I start my debian I have sound via microphone/external headphones, but if I unplug then debian system doesn't switch automatically to internal speakers output device; I have tu do it manually via pavu. [RO] Daniel you have similar issue , right? |
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| 17:01.48 | [RO]Daniel | yes, but instead of microphone is hdmi |
| 17:02.08 | [RO]Daniel | but in essence is the same problem, the system does not remember the sound output |
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| 17:02.11 | awal1 | and yes it affect gnome, kde, xfce and WM's I run. don't know if it's pulse related or system it self |
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| 17:03.16 | [RO]Daniel | did somebody file a bug with this? |
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| 17:03.42 | teraflop | Is that a but? |
| 17:03.54 | teraflop | Bug* srry |
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| 17:04.18 | awal1 | the system should switch between devices automatically. if nothing external plugged system should display sound via internal speakers but it doesn't |
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| 17:05.14 | awal1 | I have not this problem with wheezy, it started since jessie development |
| 17:05.16 | valdyn | awal1: as far as i know theres no secondary faviourite device |
| 17:05.25 | valdyn | awal1: and thats why you would want |
| 17:05.38 | valdyn | awal1: and thats *what* you would want |
| 17:06.29 | sydney_untangle | awal1: I have the same issue here. |
| 17:06.42 | [RO]Daniel | there you go, 3 people with same thing |
| 17:06.47 | sydney_untangle | Only on my laptop though. |
| 17:06.53 | teraflop | May be but if youre using the hdmi you mean that when you plug a headphone into the laptop pulse has to route the audio to the headphones? |
| 17:06.55 | [RO]Daniel | sure there are a lot more out there |
| 17:07.07 | [RO]Daniel | no teraflop |
| 17:07.11 | [RO]Daniel | the problem is that if |
| 17:07.18 | bdols | vim: symbol lookup error: vim: undefined symbol: PyUnicodeUCS4_AsEncodedString |
| 17:07.22 | [RO]Daniel | i set things up with one output |
| 17:07.26 | [RO]Daniel | it should remain like that |
| 17:07.28 | awal1 | valdyn: now I'm using internal speakers for listen music, if I plug my microphones I get sound via those microphones. but in I unplug the microphones I doen't have sound I have to open pavu and change to speakers. |
| 17:07.31 | [RO]Daniel | no matter what i select |
| 17:07.42 | valdyn | awal1: where does it switch to? |
| 17:07.43 | [RO]Daniel | if you dont touch the connectors |
| 17:07.52 | awal1 | sound is working in the background, but I don't hear it, until I select 'speaker' in pavu |
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| 17:08.01 | sydney_untangle | My laptop has a HDMI port, but i've yet to use it. |
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| 17:08.10 | sydney_untangle | My deskotp with debian doesn't use it. |
| 17:08.23 | [RO]Daniel | i have headphones and hdmi connected, i sellect audio output to normal line out heeadphones and when i restart system it jumps to hdmi, that is the problem |
| 17:08.43 | awal1 | it doesn't swich if I unplug external mictophone. In pavu still with microphone in output device |
| 17:08.45 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: so did you do what I suggested in pavucontrol? |
| 17:09.09 | [RO]Daniel | valdyn, you meen to select output that i want, yes? |
| 17:09.14 | valdyn | awal1: youre confusing me, micro is an input device... |
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| 17:09.23 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: and hit the button that sets default |
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| 17:09.38 | awal1 | valdyn: english problem here :( |
| 17:10.12 | [RO]Daniel | well, in pavucontrol at the configuration tab, i select what i want, but I have no "set to default" no other button for that matter |
| 17:10.41 | polyphagia | [RO]Daniel: is it set to fallback |
| 17:10.43 | valdyn | awal1: when i unplug my usb headphones, pulse switches to another output, thats ok, but i cannot set a specific device to fall back on, thats a missing feature as far as i know |
| 17:10.44 | polyphagia | in output devices? |
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| 17:10.57 | polyphagia | also pulse has a configuration file you can set too |
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| 17:11.11 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: you can do the same using pacmd .... |
| 17:11.28 | valdyn | pcmd is probably better to explain via irc |
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| 17:11.59 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: ^^ and the "set default" button looks like a shield to me, its a graphical icon, not text |
| 17:12.00 | [RO]Daniel | i did teraflop but nothing works |
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| 17:12.22 | [RO]Daniel | i did not use root in terminal, maybe that's a thing? |
| 17:12.28 | valdyn | [RO]Daniel: no |
| 17:12.29 | [RO]Daniel | the terminal did not ask |
| 17:12.36 | L0aD1nG | hello there |
| 17:12.55 | teraflop | What exactly? Please pastebim what you did |
| 17:13.22 | awal1 | valdyn: exact same thing happens : when I unplug my usb headphones pulse switch to another output. but if I poweroff or restart my machine with usb headphones plugged and then I unplug my usb headphones pulse doesn't switch to another device. thats the problem I have |
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| 17:14.09 | teraflop | Pastebin!=pastebin.com |
| 17:14.27 | L0aD1nG | I am facing a weird problem, the "halt" command doesn't actually halt the system... when "systemctl poweroff" does any ideas? |
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| 17:15.12 | [RO]Daniel | teraflop, let's do something else |
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| 17:15.25 | [RO]Daniel | if you want |
| 17:15.30 | icarus | hello all |
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| 17:15.39 | icarus | im having trouble verifying the gpg sig for debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-cinnamon-desktop.iso |
| 17:15.43 | [RO]Daniel | i open the terminal, you tell me exactly what to type, i type, pastebin and so on |
| 17:15.53 | [RO]Daniel | you want? |
| 17:16.06 | awal1 | pulse only switch to another device when my machine is running. if I restart or poweroff pulse switch to usb headphones automatically but pulse doesn't switch to another device when usb headphones are unplugged after restart/poweroff |
| 17:16.13 | icarus | the checksum matches, but its saying the public key is bad |
| 17:16.17 | awal1 | valdyn: you understand me? |
| 17:16.37 | valdyn | awal1: yea, and i dont know how to fix that |
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| 17:16.41 | icarus | i imported all the debian public keys from git...so if it fails to match, it tells me it really isnt a match or i did something wrong |
| 17:16.57 | valdyn | awal1: i think, pa should allow to define an order of preference, but as far as i know it does not |
| 17:17.24 | awal1 | valdyn: so propably it's pulse issue |
| 17:17.26 | L0aD1nG | any idea why halt command will not close the system? |
| 17:17.32 | awal1 | pretty sure |
| 17:17.36 | valdyn | awal1: yea, of course |
| 17:17.46 | teraflop | [RO]Daniel: handholding/spoonfeeding ... Well scroll up until you cine what told you |
| 17:17.50 | L0aD1nG | it stacks on "System Halted" line and it stays there... |
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| 17:18.10 | teraflop | Find# sorry im on the phone |
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| 17:18.28 | awal1 | how to disable pulse temporally and check if things work fine with only alsa? |
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| 17:19.31 | [RO]Daniel | the sound system is like a...deepfreeze installed system, even the sliders jumps aaway :)) |
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| 17:20.29 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: I cant remove pulse and restart my machine now because I'm working with. can you try that? |
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| 17:21.56 | JordiGH | What the shit... |
| 17:22.07 | JordiGH | The upgrade to Jessie is going to try to install lilo? |
| 17:22.10 | JordiGH | LILO!?? |
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| 17:22.25 | darthanubis | lol |
| 17:22.27 | JordiGH | lol |
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| 17:22.31 | [RO]Daniel | if you tell me how awal1 yes |
| 17:22.39 | teraflop | Hp server? |
| 17:22.41 | darthanubis | I remember lilo |
| 17:22.43 | darthanubis | I liked it |
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| 17:22.51 | JordiGH | This isn't some sort of systemd prereq, is it? lilo?? |
| 17:22.58 | [RO]Daniel | but i'm not suppose to have alsa or something else if i do that? |
| 17:23.21 | bdols | i love pico |
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| 17:25.31 | timthelion | Is there any reasonable way of setting up a SMALL PERSONAL mail server on debian? All of the tutorials I have seen have involved all sorts of crazyness. |
| 17:25.35 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: pulse is default in enabled by default in debian now, so I don't know if removing it one run in trouble with deps/recommends. the idea is remove pulse and install the pack needed for alsa (libasound2, alsa-base, alsa-utils) and use alsa as default and check if the problem is persistent using only alsa or not. at any time one can reinstall pulse |
| 17:25.55 | bdols | jessie upgrade breaks vim, fyi |
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| 17:26.20 | fe22 | where should user installed binaries go? /usr/local/bin I presume? |
| 17:26.21 | timthelion | Most of them seem to start with "first uninstall the default exim mail server" which seems to me, that indicates that those are non-default methods. |
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| 17:27.05 | [RO]Daniel | k |
| 17:27.08 | icarus | yeah...i cant grep out the fingerprint for debian cd signing key |
| 17:27.25 | babilen | timthelion: A lot of people (me included) prefer postfix over exim, but there is no need to uninstall it if you want to keep it. Simply run "dpkg-reconfigure exim-config" (or was it just "exim" ?) and choose "Internet site" |
| 17:27.29 | JordiGH | Man, this had better not install lilo. |
| 17:28.04 | JordiGH | Fine, do your worst, apt. |
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| 17:28.24 | harishkrupo | i am interested in knowing how update-grub detects the names of the distributions |
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| 17:29.22 | icarus | but i grabbed the keyrings from: rsync -az --progress keyring.debian.org::keyrings/keyrings/ . |
| 17:29.36 | icarus | just like mentioned here: http://keyring.debian.org/ |
| 17:29.40 | zh1 | issue here http://paste.debian.net/174515/ |
| 17:29.42 | valdyn | harishkrupo: https://joeyh.name/code/os-prober/ |
| 17:30.04 | icarus | and it doesnt verify against the iso copy i downloaded |
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| 17:30.24 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: if doubts forget it |
| 17:30.29 | timthelion | babilen: Is exim going to be replaced in the future? |
| 17:30.39 | babilen | I don't think so |
| 17:30.48 | timthelion | why is it default? |
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| 17:30.51 | babilen | (and if then with something like nullmailer or dma) |
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| 17:31.21 | babilen | dpkg: tell timthelion -about why exim |
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| 17:33.34 | timthelion | babilen: "Exim is scalable from running from inetd to delivering hundredths of thousands of messages a day |
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| 17:33.46 | timthelion | babilen: that means it can deliver 10's of messages a day? |
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| 17:33.55 | [RO]Daniel | hey |
| 17:33.56 | babilen | Oh, more than that :) |
| 17:34.03 | [RO]Daniel | awal1, |
| 17:34.29 | babilen | timthelion: "hundredths of thousands of messages a day" > "tens of messages a day" |
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| 17:35.00 | timthelion | babilen: yes, that's what I'm reading too. |
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| 17:35.11 | timthelion | babilen: that would actually be enough for me. |
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| 17:36.49 | timthelion | babilen: My fiance just wants to have her own domain name, and apparently the gmail app on her tablet doesn't work well, so it's enough if I can get the VPS to handle basic SMTP for her relatively small emailing needs. |
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| 17:37.12 | babilen | Sure |
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| 17:38.35 | [RO]Daniel | i did not install anything, i just remove pulseaudio (pulse audio server) and restart, and now it's working good, even it shows different because i was not seing microphone and stuff just simmilar names before |
| 17:38.39 | [RO]Daniel | awal1, |
| 17:38.46 | babilen | timthelion: tricky bit is rather keeping good reputation and configuring things like MX records and DKIM (if you want that) |
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| 17:39.12 | [RO]Daniel | the system probably falled back to ...something else |
| 17:39.40 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: so problem solved removing pulseaudio and using alsa? |
| 17:40.27 | [RO]Daniel | i guess so |
| 17:40.29 | babilen | That simply hints at the fact that some reconfiguring of sinks would have sufficed with PA |
| 17:40.38 | awal1 | alsa switch device automatically even after restart/poweroff? |
| 17:40.47 | [RO]Daniel | maybe babilen but...who knows how to do that |
| 17:41.05 | [RO]Daniel | nothing switched...i was listening music |
| 17:41.14 | [RO]Daniel | i restart, start music, it world |
| 17:41.16 | [RO]Daniel | *works |
| 17:41.26 | babilen | [RO]Daniel: I do to some degree |
| 17:41.48 | [RO]Daniel | you were not here probably, i try to fix that since yesterday :) |
| 17:42.08 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: ok, later I'll remove pulse and check if my problem is solved too |
| 17:42.23 | babilen | I mean I had to set the default sink to something else to get "speakers" as default sink rather than HDMI |
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| 17:43.19 | [RO]Daniel | if you meen by pacmd list-sources / pacmd set-default-source "SOURCENAME" this stuff |
| 17:43.24 | [RO]Daniel | i tried, not worked |
| 17:43.29 | [RO]Daniel | babilen, |
| 17:43.45 | babilen | I am specifically referring to set-default-sink, but yeah, something like that |
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| 17:44.16 | [RO]Daniel | anyway it is better now, because before i could not even "see" the mic sliders, i think they were there but under different name not related to a mic |
| 17:44.45 | babilen | What else could you hope for? ;) |
| 17:45.13 | teraflop | Im almost sure theres an alsa-restore systmd unir. But i dont know if it's related only to the sound values |
| 17:45.50 | teraflop | Alsa-restore systemd unit# |
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| 17:50.02 | quarterback | Hello, does anybody has a good iptables rules set for smurf attacks? |
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| 17:50.42 | slurl_ | hi |
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| 17:51.41 | slurl_ | does anyone know if I can dissasemble with objdump everything from a file, not just .text sections |
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| 17:53.35 | jhutchins | quarterback: That's not really someting you can do with an on-system firewall. |
| 17:54.26 | quarterback | jhutchins: What do you mean? so its better to have a good password? |
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| 17:55.28 | quarterback | jhutchins: My iptables are ditto this person's iptables rules> http://ghostblog.be/setting-up-iptables-ubuntu/ except I ddint have portscan, mail server allow and smurf rules. |
| 17:55.35 | [RO]Daniel | can someone tell me some package managers other then apper? |
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| 17:58.00 | shay_shay | uh |
| 17:58.24 | shay_shay | [ |
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| 17:58.45 | quarterback | Looks like he, I had the same source set of rules. |
| 17:59.13 | shay_shay | [RO]Daniel: thats a packagekit gui |
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| 17:59.42 | [RO]Daniel | yeah, whatever :) |
| 17:59.53 | [RO]Daniel | in gnome was something else, in kde its apper |
| 17:59.57 | [RO]Daniel | but i dont like it |
| 18:00.38 | shay_shay | [RO]Daniel: I use apt-get in conjuction with google images to see screencaptures |
| 18:00.53 | shay_shay | or to find discussion boards where people are debating what is the best |
| 18:01.15 | [RO]Daniel | yes, but when i want to "discover" new apps... |
| 18:01.28 | shay_shay | "google" is what most people use |
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| 18:02.10 | anddam | does "systemctl disable" render the target unit unknown to systemd? |
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| 18:02.21 | shay_shay | if you want to use packagekit, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PackageKit#Front-ends |
| 18:02.27 | anddam | I'd like to keep a few services disabled at boot but there for manually calling "start" on them |
| 18:02.29 | [RO]Daniel | ok thx |
| 18:02.49 | shay_shay | i found that when i googled the keywoards "packagekit frontends", [RO]Daniel |
| 18:02.57 | anddam | also I need a hand configuring urxvt control keys, what's an appropriate channel for that? |
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| 18:03.18 | [RO]Daniel | dude...im not as smart as you to know tht those are packagekit frontends" |
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| 18:03.49 | shay_shay | :/ |
| 18:04.05 | [RO]Daniel | so...stop trying to send people on google instead of here....i know some are really lazy and come here for any little thing but...it's not the case with me |
| 18:04.07 | mtn | anddam: having the taget disabled won't stop you from using start to start it |
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| 18:04.22 | shay_shay | sorry. i wasnt meaning to be condecending, i was just demonstrating how we discover things |
| 18:04.46 | [RO]Daniel | no need to sorry |
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| 18:05.18 | quarterback | jhutchins: Can you elaborat on on-system firewall? |
| 18:05.29 | quarterback | jhutchins: Can you elaborate on on-system firewall? * |
| 18:05.36 | anddam | mtn: ok, like disabling it won't stop the running instance. I guessed but wanted a confirmation, thanks |
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| 18:05.45 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: I believe your best choice will be 'synaptic' |
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| 18:06.00 | mtn | anddam: enable and disable are to set it on/off for booting |
| 18:06.35 | awal1 | nobody mentioned synaptic, thats strange :P |
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| 18:07.22 | shay_shay | awal1: it doesnt have screencaptures and reviews and stuff like that, its not for discovering software per se, as [RO]Daniel asked for |
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| 18:07.51 | shay_shay | oh i guess it does link to screenshots |
| 18:07.53 | anddam | mtn: I see |
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| 18:08.17 | awal1 | shay_shay: no screencapture inside synaptic but it links and one caan browse all software by sections :) |
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| 18:09.52 | shay_shay | i will try to start using synaptic/apitude starting with debian 9 :P |
| 18:10.05 | [RO]Daniel | yes and gnome had something different i dont know how it's called |
| 18:10.17 | shay_shay | gnome software |
| 18:10.47 | [RO]Daniel | and also i remember more sources in there, here it's just main and update jessie |
| 18:10.58 | awal1 | basically one get same features no matter if one use gnome software, apper, packagekit gui or synaptic. they all point to debian repos |
| 18:11.01 | [RO]Daniel | i remember seeing security something in gnome |
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| 18:12.15 | shay_shay | [RO]Daniel: you need to familiarize yourself with writing/editing your /etc/apt/sources.list(.d/) file(s) |
| 18:13.35 | [RO]Daniel | i see...but in gnome i did not did that, i dont understand why would i have to do it in here, sounds like i have to go on debian website, find repositories and add them manualy |
| 18:13.42 | buu | Is a systemd unit the right place to add a task I need to run when the system boots up, even if it isn't a daemon? |
| 18:14.02 | [RO]Daniel | right? |
| 18:14.43 | JordiGH | Things are already looking great in this upgrade: http://jordi.platinum.linux.pl/piccies/Screenshot.png |
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| 18:15.16 | shay_shay | cat you paste the output of this commmand to pastebin: grep -R "" /etc/apt/sources.list* |
| 18:15.32 | [RO]Daniel | yes, one moment pls |
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| 18:16.27 | shay_shay | said cat you |
| 18:16.30 | shay_shay | lol |
| 18:16.32 | JordiGH | lol |
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| 18:18.10 | [RO]Daniel | http://pastebin.com/CjskxxpR |
| 18:18.33 | [RO]Daniel | i see security...in there, so i think i'm fine, don't have to add anything, yes? |
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| 18:19.05 | sharp15 | to install grub2 to the mbr of a usb stick instead of the main harddisk i should run "grub2-install /dev/sdX" (X being the letter of the actual drive), correct? i want to avoid confusing grub and apt in the future. |
| 18:20.02 | EriC^^ | sharp15: yes, sdX is the name of the usb disk |
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| 18:21.41 | [RO]Daniel | shay_shay, ? |
| 18:21.41 | shay_shay | [RO]Daniel: yes, not unless you need backports. I'm not sure if the order matters, but my OCD wants to replace "main non-free contrib" with "main contrib non-free" on line 7 and 8.. also you might want to comment out the cdrom |
| 18:21.59 | shay_shay | but theres no problem i'm just nit picking |
| 18:22.37 | [RO]Daniel | :) ok thx |
| 18:23.15 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: non-free contrib or contrib non-free doesn't matter :) just comment the second line deb cdrom adding # at the beginning |
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| 18:23.33 | shay_shay | awal1: it matters to me ;) |
| 18:23.45 | awal1 | shay-shay: me too i prfer non-free at the last. I dont know why but i do that :P |
| 18:24.02 | [RO]Daniel | i guess the # will "tell" the system to not use the cdrom anymore, right? |
| 18:24.12 | shay_shay | yeah it wont look for it |
| 18:24.14 | awal1 | yeah |
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| 18:24.42 | [RO]Daniel | but leaving it like this...it is a problem? it will just look but not find, but so far i got no error |
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| 18:24.50 | awal1 | it ignore it unless you uncomment it |
| 18:24.52 | [RO]Daniel | can i leave it like this? |
| 18:25.04 | sharp15 | i'll clarify. i want to know if doing "grub2-install /dev/sdX" is going to stop apt from the flash disk from trying to install grub on the host system's hard drive (/dev/sda) on the next grub (or kernel) update. |
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| 18:26.20 | awal1 | [RO] Daniel: your nickname is so complicated :P |
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| 18:26.55 | awal1 | some people may no answer you just because lazy for write it |
| 18:26.57 | shay_shay | awal1: my weechat relay couldnt tab complete his nick so I had to ssh in to my bouncer |
| 18:28.10 | EriC^^ | sharp15: on kernel updates, only update-grub runs |
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| 18:28.46 | EriC^^ | sharp15: as for reinstalling grub, i dont think it would randomly install to a hdd |
| 18:28.47 | sharp15 | EriC^^: ok. thank you. |
| 18:29.39 | EriC^^ | sharp15: i think you'll be fine, if you want you could dd your hdd's mbr and keep it in a file |
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| 18:36.39 | [RO]Daniel | i use hexchat, i write the first character then hit tab and it complete the nick |
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| 18:52.56 | awal1 | I didn't know that featutre in hexchat )first letter then hit tab. thanks [RO] Daniel :) |
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| 18:54.49 | sharp15 | can i use a running debian install to produce an install on another disk? sorry i'm used to gentoo but i need to hand this machine to someone else and expect it to work. it just seems silly to run a second net-isntall when i have the dpkg files already. |
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| 18:57.43 | valdyn | sharp15: boot a live cd, "cat /dev/sda > /dev/sdb" where sda is original install and sdb for someone else |
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| 18:58.55 | sharp15 | valdyn: ok. i've never convinced cat to work with binary data. i tried to use split/cat once and it didn't work. |
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| 18:59.05 | jerichowasahoax | sharp15: use dd instead |
| 18:59.15 | jerichowasahoax | sharp15: dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb |
| 18:59.16 | valdyn | sharp15: everything is binary to cat |
| 18:59.37 | sharp15 | valdyn: that is what people tell me. |
| 18:59.39 | valdyn | sharp15: same as dd |
| 18:59.44 | valdyn | sharp15: thats a fact |
| 18:59.45 | jhutchins | sharp15: There's also debootstrap, which does a minimal install in a chroot. |
| 18:59.48 | sharp15 | jerichowasahoax: thanks. |
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| 19:01.18 | jhutchins | I would use niether dd nor cat, I would do a by-file copy with something like rsync. |
| 19:01.53 | jhutchins | If the target disk is different you'll end up with some interesting side-effects from cat or dd. |
| 19:02.12 | valdyn | if the target disk is smaller |
| 19:02.26 | valdyn | jhutchins: wth is "different" ? |
| 19:02.47 | jhutchins | valdyn: You'll end up with unallocated and possibly poorly bounded space if it's bigger. |
| 19:02.57 | jerichowasahoax | jhutchins: on larger disks worst thing he'll have to do is maybe extend his filesystem |
| 19:03.02 | kaelkhan | Hello Guys |
| 19:03.22 | jhutchins | Yes, but a by-file copy is a better process for duplicating a system. |
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| 19:03.25 | valdyn | jhutchins: no, just unallocated space |
| 19:03.37 | jhutchins | Also less likely to allow corruption. |
| 19:03.39 | shay_shay | but .. but.. dd doesnt have any sanity checking |
| 19:03.43 | shay_shay | so use rsync |
| 19:03.50 | kaelkhan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.53 | jhutchins | shay_shay: Exactly. |
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| 19:04.08 | jerichowasahoax | ideally he'd just bite it and install fresh to begin with, using his old system as a local mirror |
| 19:04.08 | kaelkhan | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:04.11 | valdyn | its pretty obvious that you can easily use both tools wrongly |
| 19:04.19 | jerichowasahoax | but for some reason that's off the table, so |
| 19:04.21 | kaelkhan | http://pastebin.com/Z83nQU09 |
| 19:04.26 | valdyn | but "sanity" checking is something both tools wont really do in a meaningful way |
| 19:05.38 | shay_shay | not if the users sanity is in question :P |
| 19:06.49 | jerichowasahoax | shay_shay: the only reason i can think of for a sanity check failing is external problems |
| 19:07.00 | jerichowasahoax | shay_shay: things like the target drive being FUBAR to begin with for instance |
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| 19:09.30 | basic6_ | how do i stop those "audit" messages that overflow dmesg? |
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| 19:10.25 | jhutchins | basic6_: Turn off auditd? |
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| 19:10.57 | jhutchins | basic6_: Better, figure out what they're telling you and fix it, I don't have that problem. |
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| 19:12.45 | basic6_ | jhutchins: many samba/smbd related messages, all stuff i dont want to see in my logs. how do i turn it off? |
| 19:13.03 | Brigo | basic6_, check samba configuration file |
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| 19:14.28 | teraflop | kaelkhan: hmmm, where is your squid crt database located? and did you tell squid to look where the database is? |
| 19:15.08 | teraflop | kaelkhan: ... and are you using selfsigned certs? |
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| 19:17.24 | teraflop | kaelkhan: it's just I remember a sort of that issue on my side and was related I didnt put the database in the right location, or I didn't generate it the right way ... |
| 19:18.02 | kaelkhan | teraflop: |
| 19:18.03 | kaelkhan | I have compiled the Scuid manually with SSL support and was functioning normally. |
| 19:18.05 | kaelkhan | I used the openssl and created certificates, and installed in browsers, everything was working, only today, suddenly the scuid began to exhibit this problem. |
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| 19:18.34 | teraflop | kaelkhan: tried just generating the crt database again? |
| 19:18.47 | teraflop | kaelkhan: ssl_crtd -d -s .... |
| 19:19.21 | teraflop | kaelkhan: but if that persist (the issue) I have no clue |
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| 19:21.41 | kaelkhan | teraflop: hummm... I will regenerate to see |
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| 19:22.23 | kaelkhan | teraflop: please wait around |
| 19:22.29 | teraflop | kaelkhan: sure |
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| 19:24.13 | kaelkhan | teraflop: I am a Brazilian student of Computer Science, entusitasta and passionate about free software |
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| 19:24.29 | jhutchins | basic6_: loglevel is configurable in samba. Lowering the level can improve performance. |
| 19:24.40 | kaelkhan | teraflop: Thank you for being willing to help me |
| 19:24.54 | teraflop | kaelkhan: np |
| 19:26.06 | teraflop | kaelkhan: oh Im just a person who likes cats ;) |
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| 19:26.33 | jelly | teraflop: prove it |
| 19:27.03 | teraflop | jelly: http://www.lastfm.es/user/terafl0p5 look at my avatar :P |
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| 19:27.40 | kaelkhan | teraflop: do not have this command on my system. I think I have to use the openssl |
| 19:29.20 | basic6_ | Brigo: jhutchins i cannot find a loglevel option in /etc/samba/smb.conf, also those messages dont look like messages generated by samba, is smb.conf the right place to disable audit messages? |
| 19:29.34 | kaelkhan | teraflop: I also love cats, I have a cat |
| 19:30.03 | teraflop | kaelkhan: oh but what about _ssl_crtd_in the logs? |
| 19:30.52 | teraflop | kaelkhan: are you using selfsigned certs? |
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| 19:32.44 | kaelkhan | teraflop: I used the openssl to generate a certificate and installed it on my network computers browser |
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| 19:34.21 | kaelkhan | teraflop: the certificate was generated by the openssl, so it selfsigned, right? |
| 19:34.52 | teraflop | kaelkhan: right |
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| 19:37.07 | teraflop | kaelkhan: I think that if you dont generate it explicitly squid does it by default, but anyway my point can be correct |
| 19:37.34 | teraflop | since if the db is messed youll need to generate it by hand |
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| 19:38.13 | kaelkhan | teraflop: as is to generate "explicitly"? |
| 19:38.45 | d3lphi | hello all. In Windows 7 (the former OS I used) I was able to right-click on my "My Documents"-->"My Music" folder and change the path so it pointed to my NAS storage / Music share. Every time I clicked on "My Music" I automagically was redirected to that network music share. How can I do that in Debian Jessie with Gnome-Shell ? |
| 19:39.06 | d3lphi | my music resides on smb:/myNAS/music |
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| 19:39.50 | teraflop | kaelkhan: something like that ssl_crtd -d -s /usr/local/squid/var/lib/ssl_db -M 4M, that might not be the exact command that you want, i do not now what is the path to your database |
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| 19:40.07 | teraflop | know* |
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| 19:42.49 | kaelkhan | teraflop: wait, I'll paste my squid.conf in pastbin. ;-) |
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| 19:44.10 | [RO]Daniel | d3lphi, i think you can just make a link to that folder in there |
| 19:45.10 | d3lphi | [RO]Daniel: but how? I cannot use ln command, because I need to redirect to a smb/cifs share |
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| 19:45.47 | kaelkhan | teraflop: http://pastebin.com/jPr8fEV9 |
| 19:46.04 | Brigo | basic6_, in /etc/samba/smb.conf you can configure samba, auditd should be configurede in other file. |
| 19:47.20 | teraflop | kaelkhan: yep look at the ssldb un that file |
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| 19:49.24 | teraflop | kaelkhan: The weird thing is that it seems to generate theb db when squid start |
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| 19:50.51 | kaelkhan | teraflop: |
| 19:50.53 | kaelkhan | https_port 3127 intercept ssl-bump generate-host-certificates=on dynamic_cert_mem_cache_size=4MB cert=/usr/local/squid/ssl_cert/IMEC-CA.pem |
| 19:50.54 | kaelkhan | sslcrtd_program /usr/local/squid/libexec/ssl_crtd -s /usr/local/squid/var/lib/ssl_db -M 4MB |
| 19:51.51 | [RO]Daniel | just right click on the shared folder |
| 19:52.16 | kaelkhan | teraflop: Will the ssl_crtd was not removed when debian been updated? |
| 19:52.16 | [RO]Daniel | d3lphi, you should have some options in there, i'm on kde now, but is possible from gnome as well |
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| 19:53.38 | kaelkhan | teraflop: I'll make some coffee, please wait me? |
| 19:53.38 | teraflop | kaelkhan: unless you delete and generate it again to see if it fix issue i have no clue |
| 19:54.25 | d3lphi | [RO]Daniel: doesn't help me |
| 19:54.54 | teraflop | kaelkhan: i dont kow if ill be here anyway hughlight me |
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| 19:54.58 | d3lphi | [RO]Daniel: there's no option to choose something like that, when I right-click to that directory |
| 19:55.06 | d3lphi | already checked that before |
| 19:55.49 | kaelkhan | teraflop: OK, I will create again to see |
| 19:56.29 | kaelkhan | teraflop: you have other suggestions? |
| 19:56.34 | [RO]Daniel | d3lphi, from all i know it should work something like this ln -s smb://192.../www/ windows |
| 19:57.07 | [RO]Daniel | if is not, then you need to mount that share permanently on /mnt for example, and then make link from there |
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| 19:59.39 | teraflop | kaelkhan: not really |
| 20:00.41 | kaelkhan | teraflop: thanks |
| 20:00.49 | d3lphi | [RO]Daniel: are you sure you can use ln -s to network shares? I was sure that is not possible IIRc |
| 20:00.54 | teraflop | kaelkhan: np |
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| 20:08.35 | bolt | is there a good way of avoiding having systemd on jessie send 10 messages to daemon.log on login, and another 10 on logout? "systemd[20448]: Starting Paths." "systemd[20448]: Reached target Paths." "Starting Timers." etc... |
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| 20:09.01 | JordiGH | Is there any danger in backing up my LUKS header somewhere public? |
| 20:09.03 | [RO]Daniel | d3lphi, you are not using it to a network share basicaly, you are using it to a "local folder" since you first mount it locally |
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| 20:20.47 | teraflop | bolt: set the journal persistent and disable the redirect to syslog. Im not recomending you doing that im just telling you it can be done |
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| 20:43.33 | woh3 | hello all |
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| 20:43.52 | Krakakanok | hello woh3 |
| 20:44.18 | woh3 | been a linux user for 15 years, hadn't tried Debian until this week, absolutely love it though. |
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| 20:48.01 | Iridos | I tried it in 2001 |
| 20:48.30 | Krakakanok | debian rulz!! |
| 20:49.00 | Krakakanok | a friend change ubuntu for debian this week |
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| 20:49.34 | colbyftp | ok thats a good sign,, Debian is being copied to my usb stick as we speak |
| 20:49.37 | Iridos | everyone should use whatever they're happy with *shrug* |
| 20:50.42 | woh3 | technically I tried it once before when I installed Knoppix on a laptop, but the laptop was stolen the next day, so never got to use it |
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| 20:51.05 | colbyftp | well hold onto it this time lol |
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| 20:57.30 | _Raiz | Hey, all, i'm switching to debian! |
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| 20:58.23 | somiaj | _Raiz: well this is a support channel if you need any help along the way, just ask your question. And our suggestion use stable. |
| 20:58.27 | Krakakanok | good _Raiz |
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| 20:59.04 | Krakakanok | i use sid, and i dont have any problems |
| 20:59.10 | _Raiz | somiaj, Oh, i'm not a beginner BTW, but i just fall in love with debian 8 :P |
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| 20:59.49 | _Raiz | and Arch is getting boring. |
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| 21:00.58 | Iridos | I like boring |
| 21:01.21 | jelly | debian is best for boring |
| 21:01.34 | _Raiz | Nah, debian is cool. |
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| 21:01.56 | _Raiz | intersted in debian 8.0 |
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| 21:03.26 | Krakakanok | arch boring? wtf |
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| 21:05.37 | smw_ | Hi all, I have a bluetooth headset. I opened up the gnome bluetooth scanner and it said "Not Set Up", so I clicked on it and it now says it is "Disconnected". However, every time I try to toggle the on/off button, it immediately toggles back to off. Anyone seen this before? |
| 21:05.57 | _Raiz | Does debian support MATE in the main repo? |
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| 21:09.31 | somiaj | _Raiz: and cinnamon |
| 21:10.02 | somiaj | _Raiz: if you want either suggested method is 1) install a debian minimial system (don't select desktop enviorment at the end of the isntall). Once in the minimial install, install the packages you want, so you can pull in mate and xorg. |
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| 21:10.50 | _Raiz | somiaj, I have the Debian LXDE CD, i will use the expert install method and uncheck LXDE. |
| 21:11.15 | somiaj | _Raiz: tasksel runs at the very in, if you choose desktop enviorment it will install lxde, if you don't choose it it won't install a desktop. |
| 21:11.25 | somiaj | _Raiz: you could have both lxde and mate on the system if you want. |
| 21:11.56 | _Raiz | One is enough |
| 21:12.55 | Iridos | one to rule them all |
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| 21:13.30 | Iridos | smw_, sorry, last looked at bluetooth... a decade or so ago... it was a pain back then |
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| 21:17.42 | joshumax | Hey, can anyone tell me why my primary partition is ~80GB but I can only use about 571MB of it? -- http://imgur.com/MeqJ5pj |
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| 21:18.51 | Krakakanok | wtf joshumax |
| 21:19.05 | joshumax | Krakakanok: What? |
| 21:19.13 | Krakakanok | i see a warning |
| 21:19.27 | joshumax | Yeah that was because it was uncleanly mounted |
| 21:19.28 | Krakakanok | in you scren |
| 21:19.34 | somiaj | joshumax: better fsck it |
| 21:19.34 | cluelessperson | Hey guys, does anyone know of a good web based ssh console? |
| 21:19.44 | joshumax | somiaj: Okay |
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| 21:20.23 | somiaj | joshumax: if that is your root filesystem, you may awnt to do it frmo a live image. |
| 21:20.23 | joshumax | Heh almost ran fsck.btrfs |
| 21:20.30 | teraflop | smw_: tried using bluetootctl? |
| 21:20.49 | joshumax | somiaj: I have it hooked up to my laptop with an IDE to USB adapter |
| 21:21.07 | joshumax | It takes forever to create a partition table in a playstation 2... |
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| 21:22.38 | joshumax | Well great... `Failed to optimize directory /usr/lib (95): Could not allocate block in ext2 filesystem` |
| 21:22.46 | joshumax | I'm out of room |
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| 21:24.07 | joshumax | -> /dev/sdb2: clean, 24937/36640 files, 144714/146257 blocks |
| 21:24.13 | joshumax | Okay then... |
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| 21:25.41 | joshumax | screw everything I'm forcing resize2fs |
| 21:26.10 | [RO]Daniel | d3lphi, did u solve youre thing? |
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| 21:26.24 | joshumax | Agh the HDD is making this horrid screeching noise |
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| 21:27.45 | joshumax | Okay it just stopped, time to inspect the damage? |
| 21:28.16 | Iridos | joshumax, time to check if those backups are in good shape |
| 21:28.20 | joshumax | o.O -- http://imgur.com/1sPJUpb -- What just happened? |
| 21:28.39 | joshumax | (No need to worry about backups, it's a fresh install as well ;P) |
| 21:29.13 | Iridos | maybe a glitch in the matrix |
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| 21:29.41 | joshumax | Well, I guess I should put it back in the playstation and see if I can get it to boot jessie again |
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| 21:32.20 | rgr | or throw it away and not waste your own time. It's an ancient drive anyway I'm guessing from the size. |
| 21:33.31 | joshumax | The PS2s only accept IDE drives though...and it's pretty large considering it's age |
| 21:34.05 | joshumax | S.M.A.R.T. tests passed, too |
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| 21:36.48 | joshumax | My best guess is that I didn't quite port the HDD controller driver over to Linux 3.4 quite right... and that caused it |
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| 21:38.13 | geoffmcc | not sure where to look to fix this issue. On a local instance of Debian, if I as a regualar user run 'netstat -antp' it will not return all results and suggest i run as root. However, on a shell accound I have that is also running Debian, if I run the same command I am given everything. Can anyone point me in the right direction as to how to prevent this |
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| 21:38.40 | geoffmcc | from what I can tell it is the -p option, so i am just trying to figure out how to secure it |
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| 21:41.34 | joshumax | geoffmcc: AFAIK none of them should cause a problem unless your local instance in some way prevents viewing established tcp sessions |
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| 21:42.35 | geoffmcc | joshumax: the issue is, the shell allows non root user to run command and see everyones address info and what not |
| 21:43.03 | geoffmcc | joshumax: at least on my local debian, it will only show my info and tell me because I didnt use sudo it is not showing everyone else |
| 21:43.44 | joshumax | Ah I see what you mean |
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| 21:44.39 | joshumax | I believe you can only view programs associate with established sessions as root, so in this case it is -p |
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| 21:46.33 | joshumax | s/programs/all programs/ |
| 21:47.08 | phogg | geoffmcc: perhaps on the other system netstat is suid root |
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| 21:48.55 | geoffmcc | joshumax: so if you ran 'netstat -antp' without sudo right now, you would get a little message at top along lines of "(Not all processes could be identified, non-owned process info will not be shown, you would have to be root to see it all.)" whereas my shell account on another server just gives me all info |
| 21:49.13 | geoffmcc | phogg: that might be it, checking now... Thanks |
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| 22:03.41 | bahax | hi guys, my .bash_history is saving only 880 entries although $HISTFILESIZE is 2000, any idea why? debian 7, gnome 3 |
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| 22:04.40 | colbyftp | I see you can't install multiple Desktop environments on installation is that right? |
| 22:05.12 | teraflop | colbyftp: yes, it is |
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| 22:05.47 | colbyftp | cool, went for XFCE |
| 22:06.05 | colbyftp | and hopefully can add gnome later and swap between the two |
| 22:06.25 | teraflop | colbyftp: yes, you can |
| 22:06.32 | colbyftp | yesssss thank you |
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| 22:07.27 | geoffmcc | phogg: -rwxr-xr-x. , so no setuid correct, as there would be an s in there somewhere, right? |
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| 22:08.09 | phogg | geoffmcc: yes |
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| 22:15.37 | geoffmcc | phogg: the only difference between my jessie and theirs is the first number before the rwxr-xr-x. On mine it is 120 and theirs is 124, however i am not sure of the meaning of that. |
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| 22:16.16 | geoffmcc | phogg: is that just saying its the 120th file in dir |
| 22:16.24 | phogg | geoffmcc: In ls -l output there should be no leading number |
| 22:17.00 | phogg | geoffmcc: what command are you running exactly? |
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| 22:17.29 | phogg | Looking at the netstat source I can't even figure out when it decides to print that notice. I think "always" sounds right, but that's clearly incorrect. |
| 22:19.01 | geoffmcc | phogg: it wont give the message unless you have a -p in there somewhere |
| 22:19.37 | phogg | geoffmcc: It will give you the message when prg_cache_loaded == 1 and I don't see a reason why it would ever be different. |
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| 22:21.32 | geoffmcc | phogg: shell account admittadly has permission issues, so may be so. Pardon my ignorance, but where is that set? |
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| 22:21.54 | phogg | geoffmcc: I'm looking at the source to netstat |
| 22:22.44 | geoffmcc | phogg: its basically, or from what others have told su is needed to get the maping of pid vs executable, but in the case of this shell account, it clearly doesnt |
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| 22:23.32 | phogg | geoffmcc: Yes. I am trying to find out what it's actually checking for so as to learn what might actually need to be changed. |
| 22:23.44 | geoffmcc | phogg: thank you |
| 22:24.40 | phogg | geoffmcc: Don't thank me, I can't make sense of this |
| 22:25.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | wonders why there's no replacement for /usr/bin/install that writes to a tarball instead of fakeroot |
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| 22:27.24 | phogg | Eduard_Munteanu: seems like creating a tarball afterwards is a trivial wrapper |
| 22:27.26 | geoffmcc | phogg: you tried/trying, so for that I thank you |
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| 22:30.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | phogg, yeah, though it counts on fakeroot to keep track of ownership and permissions |
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| 22:57.10 | geoffmcc | phogg: think i figured it out. I did a strace netstat -p and am seeing a bunch of perm denied while doing things with proc. Did so on shell account and no such perm denied messages |
| 22:58.15 | phogg | geoffmcc: This is the same story as before: that's what -p does. But *why* are there no denies? |
| 22:58.27 | phogg | geoffmcc: If you have a specific proc path you can perhaps answer this question. |
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| 23:10.20 | doge | !snss |
| 23:10.32 | dvs | !sns |
| 23:10.32 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 23:10.46 | doge | lol |
| 23:11.53 | geoffmcc | phogg: i gotta step away from this for a bit, but if I run `strace netstat -antp > dump 2>&1` as a reg user I get a bunch of permission denied. However if I run same exact command on shell that isnt requring sudo as it should, i get an output that looks exactly as the one i got on my local machine when i did so with sudo |
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| 23:12.29 | oo_miguel | how can I tell m4 to expand __MY_MACRO__ when it is placed directly after some text as in: fooobar__MY_MACRO__ ? |
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| 23:13.11 | nicola | Imagine I want to access the blocks of file /hello/file. How many inodes should I walk through? |
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| 23:50.43 | Grobalour | hello, how should I update packages and security updates and wathever kind of updates is available? just "sudo apt-get update and then upgrade"? Or are there other commands? |
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| 23:51.40 | dvs | Grobalour: That's fine for day-to-day updates |
| 23:52.22 | Grobalour | dvs: what more can I do? |
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| 23:53.00 | bazhang | dist-upgrade does not change version, is that correct |
| 23:53.21 | dvs | bazhang: it changes the version but it does not install or remove new packages. |
| 23:54.00 | bazhang | dvs I know for ubuntu it does not change from one release to the next absent changing the sources list |
| 23:54.59 | dvs | Grobalour: You might have to use apt-get dist-upgrade if apt-get upgrade doesn't work. |
| 23:55.42 | Grobalour | dvs it works |
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| 23:59.45 | geoffmcc | Grobalour: I always `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade -y && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y && sudo apt-get --purge autoremove`. |
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