| 00:00.01 | shay_shay | !ask |
| 00:00.02 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 00:00.26 | shay_shay | intelikey: oh that was a joke lol |
| 00:00.26 | intelikey | didn't figure you would let me... ;/ |
| 00:00.34 | intelikey | :))) |
| 00:01.13 | shay_shay | I have nicks truncated in my IRC client so it took me a second to realise you were a common face |
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| 00:02.20 | sideup66 | lol teraflop |
| 00:02.46 | sideup66 | linux would be too drastic for her, she plays little silly games on her laptop, checks derpbook, and just does herend of the day whatever on it |
| 00:02.49 | sideup66 | otherwise pays bills |
| 00:02.50 | sideup66 | thats it |
| 00:03.04 | intelikey | anyway, i do have a wifi issue. i just did a dist-upgrade to stable, on a new hp lappy, with a new syslink 1200e router. i know nothing about wifi. could someone help me get them talking to each other please ? |
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| 00:04.11 | sideup66 | intelikey what is your desktop environment? |
| 00:04.14 | sideup66 | gnome? |
| 00:04.24 | intelikey | idk |
| 00:04.30 | intelikey | let me see |
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| 00:05.22 | intelikey | looks like lxde |
| 00:05.59 | intelikey | i'm more comfortable in a console though |
| 00:07.00 | sideup66 | ah intelikey i was gonna suggest just setting it up in networkmanager |
| 00:07.05 | sideup66 | its graphical but yeah =\ |
| 00:07.23 | sideup66 | its a gnome tool but by far most userfriendly |
| 00:07.44 | intelikey | ok anyway to get there is fine with me |
| 00:08.06 | sideup66 | ok if you look at your network adapter its on and seeing networks right? |
| 00:08.42 | intelikey | i'm using a cable through the router as we speak if that is what you mean |
| 00:09.04 | sideup66 | well know |
| 00:09.18 | intelikey | or do you mean the wifi card in the lappy ? |
| 00:09.22 | sideup66 | i know* i mean is idk if your on your desktop or not |
| 00:09.28 | sideup66 | yes, is it on and seeing your network |
| 00:09.44 | intelikey | on yes, seeing nothing. |
| 00:10.31 | sideup66 | hrm, is your router configured up to broadcast your network and such |
| 00:11.25 | intelikey | well ,,,, i think so. i turned all the security stuff off. and broadcast essid or what ever it is on... |
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| 00:13.16 | sideup66 | ok, i was going to say what you can do to make sure the network is working is say try to connect your phone(im assuming you did this) |
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| 00:14.22 | intelikey | phone ? |
| 00:14.31 | intelikey | errr don't assume to much |
| 00:15.04 | sideup66 | i meant your smartphone (sorry assumed you had one =\) |
| 00:16.59 | sideup66 | ummm im assuming as well wifi worked before the upgrade? |
| 00:17.04 | sideup66 | sorry to ask redundant questions |
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| 00:18.09 | sideup66 | is listening to tycho- coastal brake |
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| 00:23.31 | intelikey | back |
| 00:23.59 | intelikey | well i have locked myself out of the router config page ;/ |
| 00:25.11 | dvs | can't help you with that. |
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| 00:25.53 | intelikey | i changed from http to https and lost connection now i can't reconnect to the page. |
| 00:26.06 | sideup66 | intelikey try rebooting the router |
| 00:26.07 | sideup66 | ? |
| 00:26.10 | intelikey | bad idea i guess |
| 00:26.17 | sideup66 | why |
| 00:26.34 | intelikey | sideup66 that's where i just disappeared too |
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| 00:26.57 | intelikey | didn't help |
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| 00:27.25 | intelikey | tried from another boxen no help |
| 00:27.55 | sideup66 | just reboot it :) disconnect the power for a minute from the router |
| 00:27.57 | sideup66 | itll reboot |
| 00:27.58 | sideup66 | could be that |
| 00:28.08 | intelikey | might run the setup disk through wine |
| 00:28.44 | intelikey | sideup66 that is exactly what i just tried. power disconnect... |
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| 00:29.21 | sideup66 | intellikey have you tried making sure you added https://your-ip-here to see if it makes a difference? |
| 00:29.35 | intelikey | yes |
| 00:29.38 | dvs | intelikey: you changed from http to https in the middle of configuration? |
| 00:30.02 | intelikey | dvs the https setting in the config page yes. |
| 00:30.33 | somiaj | sideup66: I found the issue, lightdm.service is a 'static' service, and thus can't be enabled/disabled. |
| 00:30.48 | sideup66 | ugh this stupid thing will be my death x_x |
| 00:30.48 | somiaj | sideup66: but I can control it by editing the /etc/X11/default-display-manager just fine. |
| 00:31.03 | sideup66 | hmm somiaj i just tried setting my scripts to toggle that for me |
| 00:31.23 | sideup66 | and now i get an error attempting to start it saying the service start request was repeated too quickly |
| 00:31.28 | sideup66 | dunno what that is about |
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| 00:31.45 | wh0isthis | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 00:31.48 | wh0isthis | what is this command do? |
| 00:32.14 | intelikey | bring your os up to the current |
| 00:32.24 | intelikey | wh0isthis that is |
| 00:32.55 | wh0isthis | intelikey it do not |
| 00:33.01 | wh0isthis | it says 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 00:33.05 | intelikey | upgrade your os ^ assuming sources.list is set for that |
| 00:33.22 | wh0isthis | do you need to edit my sources.list first? |
| 00:34.06 | wh0isthis | i am using debian 7. and was goign to update to debian 8 and jessie |
| 00:34.11 | intelikey | the issue would be the sources.list if 'apt-get update ;apt-get dist-upgrade' doesn't achieve the upgrade you want. |
| 00:34.23 | dvs | wh0isthis: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 00:35.16 | intelikey | sets sources.list to "stable" and leaves it... |
| 00:35.29 | dvs | intelikey: not smart |
| 00:35.46 | wh0isthis | intelikey: jessie is stable? |
| 00:36.14 | intelikey | wh0isthis yes |
| 00:36.21 | intelikey | !stable |
| 00:36.22 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Jessie (8.0); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 00:37.01 | qifur | hello friends |
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| 00:37.10 | qifur | for some reason, I can't use my alt keybindings on my terminal anymore |
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| 00:37.18 | qifur | instead of them, some weird unicode appears â. |
| 00:37.26 | qifur | for example that's what i get instead of alt-b (which goes back a word on shell) |
| 00:37.30 | qifur | what could the problem be? |
| 00:37.37 | qifur | i'm using rxvt-unicode but this is a new problem |
| 00:37.50 | qifur | i have this on my Xdfefaults : URxvt.modifier: meta |
| 00:37.52 | jasabella | hi |
| 00:37.55 | qifur | any idea guys? |
| 00:37.57 | intelikey | qifur LANG= LOCAL= |
| 00:38.11 | jasabella | i'm a little confused as to how python3 has been packaged in jessie |
| 00:38.16 | qifur | LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 |
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| 00:38.27 | qifur | XTERM_LOCALE=en_GB.UTF-8 |
| 00:38.42 | qifur | intelikey: ^ |
| 00:38.45 | intelikey | looks right. |
| 00:38.59 | intelikey | key bindings |
| 00:39.24 | qifur | alt-f which used to go up one word |
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| 00:39.32 | intelikey | !keyboard |
| 00:39.32 | dpkg | A keyboard is something you hit to fix segfaults, sigsegvs, and faulty hardware, or at http://store.yahoo.com/pfuca-store/ . For help configuring up your keyboard, ask me about <keymap>, <keyboard specialkeys>, <multimedia keys>, <key delay>, <capslock>. See also <cherry>. |
| 00:39.33 | qifur | now uppercases first letter, and goes to end... |
| 00:39.44 | qifur | ? |
| 00:40.10 | qifur | control seems to work fine |
| 00:40.12 | qifur | only alt got fucked |
| 00:40.25 | qifur | if i use escape instead of alt it works |
| 00:40.39 | qifur | :/ |
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| 00:41.54 | abrotman | jasabella: be more descriptibve |
| 00:42.09 | preyalone | what's the most recent version of debian with native libc5 installed? |
| 00:42.18 | mo1991reg | is there any replacement that works with the xfce4 desktop for "update-notifier"? Seems gnome-packagekit doesn't show anything in the xfce notification manager? Anyone found something to get update notifications in XFCE? |
| 00:42.21 | qifur | intelikey: if i use it in a tty, it works. |
| 00:42.27 | abrotman | preyalone: archive.debian.org is a good place to look |
| 00:42.30 | qifur | that is, in a tty shell the alt key works fine |
| 00:42.36 | abrotman | preyalone: I think it was sarge, but don't quote me on that |
| 00:42.38 | qifur | so it's something with X or rxvt-unicode |
| 00:42.45 | sideup66 | its failing....but why :( |
| 00:42.47 | jasabella | what packages do i need to install to have virtualenv and pip for python3? |
| 00:42.55 | somiaj | sideup66: anyways the issue was lightdm.service is a static service and is not designed to be enabled/disabled so using systemctl is not the correct way. The correct way is to modify the /etc/X11/default-display-manager file. I wrote a simple script that changes it from 'false' to '/usr/sbin/lightdm' and am able to control weither or not the display manager loads just fine. |
| 00:43.01 | jasabella | python3-virtualenv is now virtualenv? python3-pip is now? |
| 00:43.31 | somiaj | sideup66: now that I have a vm I can test these thigns. Did not know what a static service was until I tried to do something, and then the warnings it gave me was this service is static and it all fit together. |
| 00:43.48 | sideup66 | i see somiaj |
| 00:44.07 | sideup66 | i didn't know, but now after trying to control it by manipulating that desktop file it fails from starting :( |
| 00:44.43 | somiaj | sideup66: you need to unload the desktop file and go back to the default one provided by the package. |
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| 00:45.00 | somiaj | sideup66: sorry I lead you astray and though you could enable/disable the start up service like sysvinitrc, |
| 00:45.09 | sideup66 | its ok somiaj |
| 00:45.18 | somiaj | sideup66: I meant service file |
| 00:45.25 | sideup66 | oh i did somiaj |
| 00:45.45 | sideup66 | i removed the custom filefrom /etc/systemd/system |
| 00:46.44 | jasabella | i just put the command virtualenv and it used pip2 and python2 |
| 00:46.52 | sideup66 | and the original in /lib/systemd/system |
| 00:46.54 | jasabella | i want it to do python3 |
| 00:46.57 | sideup66 | and it fails =\ |
| 00:46.59 | somiaj | sideup66: now you need to tell systemctl to reload lightdm.service |
| 00:47.05 | intelikey | i see a problem here. iwconfig can't set the essid to anything besides off/any would that be why i can't see the router ? |
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| 00:47.22 | somiaj | intelikey: that is false, iwconfig can set the essid to what ever you want it to. |
| 00:47.32 | somiaj | intelikey: why not use network-manager to configure your network? |
| 00:47.40 | intelikey | somiaj it doesn't |
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| 00:48.10 | jasabella | essid is case sensitive iirc |
| 00:48.14 | sideup66 | somiaj it states in its status that the service failed due to start-limit |
| 00:48.21 | sideup66 | dunno how to go about clearing that |
| 00:48.51 | intelikey | somiaj i run iwconfig wlan0 essid localname <<< and the setting doesn't change it remains essid=off/any |
| 00:49.33 | somiaj | intelikey: run 'ifconfig wlan0 up' first |
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| 00:49.47 | intelikey | will look into installing running "networkmanager" |
| 00:50.00 | dvs | network-maanger |
| 00:50.06 | dvs | network-manager |
| 00:50.08 | intelikey | somiaj it is up |
| 00:51.33 | somiaj | intelikey: dmesg | grep firmware |
| 00:51.39 | somiaj | intelikey: does it say something about 'failed to load firmware' |
| 00:51.42 | intelikey | what is the command to start "network-manager" ? |
| 00:52.12 | sideup66 | service network-manager start |
| 00:52.13 | sideup66 | ? |
| 00:52.23 | somiaj | sideup66: well he may be on jessie, so taht won't work if using systemd. |
| 00:52.30 | jasabella | ya, did you install firmware and a dhcp client |
| 00:52.37 | intelikey | somiaj no the firmware is ok. |
| 00:52.45 | somiaj | intelikey: anyways, if you aren't able to set the essid and the interface is up, sounds like missing firmawre. |
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| 00:53.06 | shay_shay | jasabella: pip3 for python3-pip |
| 00:53.15 | shay_shay | that's the command |
| 00:53.25 | jasabella | shay_shay... but virtualenv doesnt use it |
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| 00:53.36 | jmg | hey all |
| 00:53.54 | jmg | anyone know how to pass an environment variable to make from the rules file |
| 00:53.59 | jmg | I cant figure it out |
| 00:54.09 | shay_shay | jasabella: if you're in a python3 virtualenv then it will |
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| 00:54.18 | jasabella | how do i use python3 virtualenv? |
| 00:54.22 | intelikey | [ 14.485338] rtl8188ee: Using firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin |
| 00:54.23 | intelikey | [ 14.525810] rtl8188ee 0000:02:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin |
| 00:54.23 | intelikey | [ 24.404611] r8169 0000:03:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware rtl_nic/rtl8106e-2.fw |
| 00:54.49 | jasabella | python3-virtualenv doesnt include the stub/script in /usr/bin |
| 00:54.59 | somiaj | intelikey: I should have know it was that driver....I had very bad luck with those realtek drivers. Anyways I'm getting lots of hits in google, trying to see if I can find anything useful. |
| 00:55.07 | qifur | intelikey: didn't help. is there something special i should select during configuration? |
| 00:55.09 | jmg | this rules file is using dh_auto_configure |
| 00:55.54 | somiaj | intelikey: I found one post that says your router must broadcast the essid....but that seems strange. |
| 00:55.56 | jasabella | what's the difference between python3-virtualenv and python3-venv pckages? |
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| 00:56.07 | somiaj | intelikey: have you tried 'iwlist wlan0 scan', in that scan can you see the essid you are looking to use? |
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| 00:56.50 | shay_shay | jasabella: you might be better off asking in #python ... venv is like virtualenv but instead of being a separate thing, its built into python3 |
| 00:57.01 | jmg | I cant set LIBS with a dh_auto_configure flag |
| 00:57.19 | shay_shay | so the venv package you mentioned might just be bash completion stuff |
| 00:57.24 | jmg | halp |
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| 00:58.33 | intelikey | somiaj yes the essid does show up in iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 00:59.14 | intelikey | lots of other info too |
| 00:59.34 | somiaj | intelikey: it seems strange to me, I don't see why it is not setting the essid. Is this a wep or wpa network? |
| 00:59.47 | jasabella | shay_shay... thanks :[ |
| 01:00.29 | somiaj | intelikey: anyways I am not getting anything useful. I would try to see if network-manager magic just works. |
| 01:00.31 | Epakai | i'm trying to set up nfs4 and kerberos and I think I finally have the config right, but rpc.svcgssd is still referencing a domain and realm from prior config, how do i fix that? |
| 01:00.43 | sideup66 | fixed it somia |
| 01:00.47 | sideup66 | had another syntax issue lol |
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| 01:01.38 | intelikey | somiaj not supposed to be. should be wide open |
| 01:02.28 | intelikey | somiaj ok service network-manager ? |
| 01:02.38 | somiaj | intelikey: it should start it when you installed it. |
| 01:02.48 | somiaj | intelikey: but you now need a client to manage it. Do you use gnome? |
| 01:03.33 | intelikey | no |
| 01:03.37 | intelikey | lxde |
| 01:03.59 | intelikey | or that seems to be what is running |
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| 01:04.22 | sideup66 | lmao |
| 01:04.23 | sideup66 | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VDswps3qo4 |
| 01:05.19 | somiaj | intelikey: lxde usually uses wicd over network-manager. |
| 01:05.21 | sideup66 | got it btw somiaj i just added that to a start desktp script |
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| 01:05.29 | sideup66 | and can reverse it that way |
| 01:05.46 | somiaj | intelikey: dpkg -l | grep wicd (do you have wicd installed already)? |
| 01:05.48 | sideup66 | somiaj i never used wicd but find that network-manager does it in a more user friendly way |
| 01:06.09 | somiaj | sideup66: problem is the client, I'm just trying to use what ever his desktop would isntall to control the network. |
| 01:06.20 | sideup66 | thanks again somiaj :D |
| 01:06.38 | sideup66 | for the help, i appreciated everyones help, teraflop and buu and everyone else |
| 01:06.51 | sideup66 | gonna go ahead and wrap up configuration of my server :) |
| 01:07.01 | intelikey | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.59 | jmg | plik |
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| 01:09.21 | somiaj | intelikey: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#NetworkManager -- anyways the only instructions I see are for gnome or kde. Not sure what applet would be best for lxde. I thought they used wicd, and I figured it would already be installed. Maybe that wiki will help you. As I said I don't see why iwconfig is not working. |
| 01:09.46 | Hendsum | To put a LiveCD hybrid .iso on a USB flash stick, do i format it with iso9600 FS, or ext3 FS? Or do I need to format the stick at all? |
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| 01:10.30 | somiaj | Hendsum: you do a direct image copy of the iso onto the usb drive just like an installer |
| 01:10.40 | somiaj | Hendsum: are you doing this from linux (or other *nix) or windows? |
| 01:10.48 | Hendsum | Linux |
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| 01:11.52 | somiaj | Hendsum: do you know what device you usb flash drive is? |
| 01:13.39 | somiaj | Hendsum: if it is /dev/sdc, 'cp file.iso /dev/sdc', make sure the device is unmounted, this will destory all data on that device and replace it with the iso image. |
| 01:13.42 | Hendsum | somiaj: /dev/sdc1 |
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| 01:14.32 | Hendsum | the .iso gets copied to the device even when the device is UNmounted? |
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| 01:15.23 | somiaj | Hendsum: you are copying it to the device (not the file system on the device) big difference |
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| 01:16.03 | sideup66 | welp |
| 01:16.08 | sideup66 | im officially a jessie system! :D |
| 01:17.11 | Hendsum | somiaj: you mean the DEVICE, as /dev/sdc1, is accessible (addressable as /dev/sdc1) even when UNmounted? |
| 01:17.23 | sideup66 | still |
| 01:17.25 | sideup66 | 5 gb system |
| 01:17.28 | sideup66 | impressive |
| 01:17.33 | sideup66 | and that is 3 versions of debian |
| 01:17.34 | sideup66 | lol |
| 01:17.38 | Hendsum | sideup66: that's tiny |
| 01:17.55 | sideup66 | thats my os drive Hendsum |
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| 01:17.59 | Hendsum | sideup66: but good news |
| 01:18.05 | sideup66 | data is a 1 tb softraid, and yes? |
| 01:18.20 | Hendsum | sideup66: cool. congrats |
| 01:18.23 | somiaj | Hendsum: no the device, /dev/sdc (not the first partition, /dev/sdc1) |
| 01:18.38 | sideup66 | Hendsum ive had this, just had to fix some mess in my gfx drivers |
| 01:19.10 | somiaj | Hendsum: the .iso is a device image. It contains boot info for both uefi and mbr that can work on both usb or cdrom, it contains a partition table, it contains a file system, and it contains all the files inside the file system. |
| 01:19.35 | somiaj | Hendsum: when y ou mounte a partition, you only mount the filesystem (which is only a part of the device, in your case you have a filesystem on /dev/sdc1 one of the partitions of the actual device) |
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| 01:19.55 | somiaj | Hendsum: I guess the live images only contain mbr boot info, but the isntallers contain both |
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| 01:20.53 | Hendsum | somiaj: ohh ... the device as a whole ( /dev/sdc ) has to be overlaid with the Live.iso file? |
| 01:21.04 | somiaj | Hendsum: correct it is a full image |
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| 01:21.23 | somiaj | Hendsum: so cp debian-whatever.iso /dev/sdc is all you have to do |
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| 01:23.10 | Hendsum | somiaj: got it. thanks. . . . no wonder my first cp attempt put the entire .iso on the stick, but it wouldn't boot. It said "No OS found". |
| 01:24.11 | Hendsum | oops ... there goes all the Windogs apps that came on the stick ... hah hah hah ... they got wiped out. ... i could not care any less. |
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| 01:36.55 | sideup66 | lol |
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| 01:37.45 | sideup66 | im in the process of setting up for school and imaging my box :p |
| 01:37.55 | sideup66 | just clearing the calc out :p |
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| 01:42.00 | Hendsum | sideup66: what do you backup to? |
| 01:42.29 | sideup66 | Hendsum for my desktops to the server |
| 01:43.03 | sideup66 | for the server, i backup the os every major debian version change with a disk image, i keep it on a dvd-rw for storage off the disk and on disk i keep it on a partition of the os drive |
| 01:43.25 | Hendsum | sideup66: cool |
| 01:43.42 | sideup66 | all that partition contains is the os and its programs and their configurations, the actual data is stored on its raid 1 system which is currently at a tb (hopefully when i put a newer box in itll be replaced with a bigger drive |
| 01:43.47 | sideup66 | ) |
| 01:44.00 | sideup66 | in a year or so after college i would like to build a newer system for it |
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| 01:44.22 | Hendsum | raid mirroring? |
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| 01:45.54 | sideup66 | yup, raid 1 |
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| 01:49.10 | sideup66 | lel |
| 01:49.12 | sideup66 | oops |
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| 01:53.06 | Hendsum | I don't understand how can a 1TB USB hard disk drive operate on a measly 0.9Amps max at the USB connector? Hard disk drives need 8 Amps or more. |
| 01:53.26 | sideup66 | Hendsum mine is internal.... |
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| 01:54.22 | Hendsum | sideup66: you prolly have a power supp > 400 Watts, eh? |
| 01:54.39 | sideup66 | not sure, i dont think its that huge actually |
| 01:54.57 | sideup66 | i put it in ages ago, i forget how big -_- just an old desktop that i repurposed is my server |
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| 01:55.10 | sideup66 | though id like to clean up some old cards and crap in it, free up some irq and possibly power |
| 01:55.15 | sideup66 | because they just arent used |
| 01:55.40 | sideup66 | it also has that and two cd romdrives though those are rarely used |
| 01:55.56 | sideup66 | one is a dvd that doesn't read too well |
| 01:56.02 | Hendsum | 750 W supps are common on midtowers nowadays |
| 01:56.06 | sideup66 | and the other is a cheap lite on cd burner that works perfect |
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| 01:56.18 | sideup66 | this is ooooold Hendsum its like maybe 3/400 |
| 01:56.24 | sideup66 | early 00s gateway |
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| 01:57.20 | sideup66 | want to say its a 300 but i think it is 4 maybe 5 |
| 01:57.33 | sideup66 | ifit were less not sure if it would run well lol |
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| 01:57.59 | abrotman | wonders what this has to do with Debian |
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| 01:58.51 | Hendsum | Debian runs on these geeky circuitry |
| 01:59.02 | Hendsum | ;) |
| 01:59.22 | sideup66 | some of it is a mess lol |
| 01:59.29 | sideup66 | like i said the server is a repurposed junker |
| 01:59.46 | Hendsum | sideup66: some of those CPUs are fine |
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| 01:59.56 | sideup66 | meh, its a 1ghz amd athalon |
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| 02:00.09 | sideup66 | itll have to die soon though, i dont have sse and its becoming a problem -_- |
| 02:00.17 | sideup66 | because amd had their own things back then to be different |
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| 02:01.10 | abrotman | !ot |
| 02:01.10 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 02:01.21 | Hendsum | it's the puny buses that chokes those CPUs |
| 02:01.55 | sideup66 | true i guess and sorry abrotman |
| 02:01.59 | Hendsum | abrotman: ok; sorry. |
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| 02:04.13 | shay_shay | Debian Debian deeebian |
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| 02:07.46 | wtjjj | how do I get acceleration under debian with a AMD apu? |
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| 02:08.08 | dvs | wtjjj: which APU? |
| 02:08.11 | wtjjj | c70 |
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| 02:08.24 | dvs | never 'eard of it |
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| 02:08.47 | wtjjj | it's a latop apu |
| 02:09.01 | wtjjj | 9 watt peak. |
| 02:09.08 | wtjjj | 9 watts and a propper gpu. |
| 02:09.16 | wtjjj | the cpu cores are crippled though :c |
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| 02:09.42 | somiaj | wtjjj: what excatly are you wanting? are you talking about graphical acceleration or some other type of acceleration? |
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| 02:10.34 | somiaj | wtjjj: but for amd you could install the amd microcode, its in non-free but may help |
| 02:11.10 | wtjjj | somiaj: graphical |
| 02:11.13 | somiaj | wtjjj: i.e amd64-microcode, but I think you are wanting graphical acceleration. |
| 02:11.14 | wtjjj | the CPU is fine |
| 02:11.25 | wtjjj | yep |
| 02:11.28 | somiaj | wtjjj: the microcode still helps. But doesn't it have an ati graphics card on it? |
| 02:11.31 | somiaj | sorry gpu |
| 02:11.32 | wtjjj | I have the proprietary driver installed |
| 02:11.34 | wtjjj | AMD |
| 02:11.41 | wtjjj | 7450 iirc |
| 02:11.52 | somiaj | wtjjj: how did you install the proprietary driver? |
| 02:14.47 | sideup66 | just burning the image to the backup dvd |
| 02:14.52 | sideup66 | then putting it away |
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| 02:15.02 | sideup66 | and were done :) |
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| 02:15.18 | wtjjj | somiaj: using hte installer |
| 02:15.52 | somiaj | wtjjj: the ati installer? I would advise against that as debian dones't play nicely with things not installed via dpkg |
| 02:15.55 | somiaj | !flgrx |
| 02:15.55 | dpkg | fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop of Debian 8 "Jessie" due to lack of EGL support (ref. §5.11 <jessie release notes>), use the <radeon> driver instead. |
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| 02:19.36 | wtjjj | somiaj: and it will survive kernel updates? |
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| 02:20.42 | somiaj | wtjjj: correct, the dkms packages will generate new modules each time you update the kernel |
| 02:21.06 | somiaj | wtjjj: provided you install the headers, this means to ensure that the linux-headers-amd64 package is installed (similar tothe linux-image-amd64 meta package) |
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| 02:21.37 | somiaj | wtjjj: note if you are running testing expect this to break, since abi changes, kernel changes sometimes make it not work. But in stable it will work just fine. |
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| 02:34.01 | telmac | so I have a desktop with nvidia graphics on the mobo |
| 02:34.08 | telmac | I installed debian with that, worked fine |
| 02:34.27 | telmac | I also have an ati card, used on the same machine years ago |
| 02:34.55 | telmac | I purged nouveau and xorg-whatever-nouveau, shutdown, turned the power off, installed the card |
| 02:35.00 | sideup66 | yey im done |
| 02:35.05 | telmac | my monitor is plugged into the card |
| 02:35.12 | telmac | and I'm in text mode |
| 02:35.29 | sideup66 | telmac your having issues with an nvidia driver? kill it. kill it with fire. |
| 02:35.30 | somiaj | telmac: the free radeon driver shoul jsut work out of the box for most ati cards. |
| 02:35.45 | telmac | I normally boot into text mode, but it's clearly not recognizing the gpu because it's running at 480 etc. and scaling up to the monitor's resolution |
| 02:35.46 | sideup66 | but anyway, what is wrong |
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| 02:36.05 | somiaj | telmac: if you used the non-free nvidia driver you may have to remove any modifications you made the your xorg.conf, as in have no xorg.conf file (or files in xorg.conf.d) |
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| 02:36.37 | telmac | I tried installing xserver-xorg-video-radeon, it was already |
| 02:36.40 | somiaj | telmac: so the radeon kms driver isn't loading. Wonder if it is blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 02:36.54 | telmac | when I run startx I get "no screens found" and xinit exits |
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| 02:37.19 | telmac | somiaj: if the modifications were made to xorg.conf they were done by the installer but I can check |
| 02:37.25 | telmac | what in particular should I be looking for? |
| 02:37.42 | sideup66 | telmac you could remove the xorg.conf file too |
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| 02:37.47 | sideup66 | it will force things to reset |
| 02:38.02 | telmac | how much will this fuck things |
| 02:38.26 | sideup66 | telmac it might help |
| 02:38.26 | somiaj | telmac: if you didn't use the non-free drive there should be no xorg.conf file which is the default. |
| 02:38.36 | telmac | also, I cat'd /etc/modprobe.d/fbdev-blacklist.conf and I notice "blacklist radeonfb" |
| 02:38.41 | somiaj | sideup66: since he was not using the non-free driver this is not the issue. |
| 02:38.52 | sideup66 | ah ok |
| 02:39.02 | somiaj | telmac: you want that, the old fb drivers are blacklisted in terms of the new kms drivers |
| 02:39.14 | somiaj | telmac: dmesg | head -- I want to see the boot paramaters you booted with |
| 02:39.42 | somiaj | telmac: i.e. paste th eline like this Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/....... (the whole line (even if it raps). |
| 02:39.50 | telmac | what do you want from that |
| 02:39.59 | telmac | I obviously can't copy it |
| 02:40.11 | telmac | I mean I guess I can > and then scp |
| 02:40.12 | telmac | one sec |
| 02:40.19 | somiaj | telmac: I am mainly looking for something like nomodset=1 |
| 02:40.36 | somiaj | telmac: i.e. at the end you will have some options. just wanted to see if you had that paticuarl option in it |
| 02:40.42 | somiaj | telmac: it is fine, don't need to pate it. |
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| 02:41.40 | telmac | http://telmac.pw/head |
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| 02:42.59 | telmac | somiaj: ? |
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| 02:43.03 | somiaj | telmac: looks fine |
| 02:43.18 | somiaj | telmac: lsmod | grep radeon (did the driver load)? |
| 02:43.46 | telmac | printed several lines but I don't know what to look for |
| 02:43.58 | somiaj | telmac: do any lines say 'blacklist radeon' |
| 02:44.06 | telmac | no |
| 02:44.38 | somiaj | telmac: oh sorry, lsmod | grep radeon returned several lines. Sound slike the radeon driver is loaded. |
| 02:44.59 | telmac | I'm not 100% certain which driver I should be using? |
| 02:44.59 | somiaj | telmac: not sure why it is giving you such poor resolution in text mode, but everything looks fine in terms of the drivers. |
| 02:45.01 | telmac | it's a 5770 |
| 02:45.24 | somiaj | telmac: ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/* |
| 02:45.31 | somiaj | telmac: does that return 'file not found' |
| 02:45.56 | telmac | for both |
| 02:46.30 | somiaj | telmac: everything seems fine, if you run startx it should load the radeon driver as far as I can tell and just work. |
| 02:46.46 | somiaj | telmac: the low resolution seems a bit odd, but it looks like the kms driver is loaded so I'm not worried. |
| 02:46.54 | telmac | so, one other thing |
| 02:47.12 | telmac | when the bios and grub load, they're at the correct resolution |
| 02:47.37 | telmac | is it possible for a gpu to be half broken? |
| 02:47.56 | telmac | like, for it to be able to process text mode etc. but fuck up when it needs to communicate with a proper driver? |
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| 02:48.00 | somiaj | telmac: I doubt that is the issue. There is some issue with the kms setting the console resolution, but I wouldn not worry about it. |
| 02:48.24 | somiaj | telmac: as in if you plan to use xorg, get that to work. Worry about the console resolution later. |
| 02:48.34 | telmac | sure |
| 02:48.46 | thedudez0r | I'm launching some instances that run a wheezy backports customized image. I'm succesfully installing systemd and systemd-sysv but when I restart I can't get to the instance via ssh because it doesn't start somehow |
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| 02:49.19 | thedudez0r | but doing systemctl enable sshd errors out if one installs systemd but hasn't rebooted |
| 02:49.46 | thedudez0r | I was wondering how I could install systemd, systemd-sysv and ensure that sshd services starts on boot |
| 02:49.53 | somiaj | thedudez0r: wheezy-backports is not a full os, so just say wheezy. But provide more details. Are you installing systemd on wheezy? Are you running jessie but then have wheezy inside a chroot? a vm? etc? |
| 02:50.18 | thedudez0r | it's a full wheezy vm |
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| 02:50.46 | somiaj | thedudez0r: did you install systemd inside the vm? What sort of virtulization are you using? |
| 02:51.19 | thedudez0r | ok so regular wheezy is better you say? idk what the backports image is for, I would guess it's for repos with newer packages being backported |
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| 02:51.42 | JasonWoof | how do I get stuff like the following to stick? xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = Super_L" |
| 02:51.43 | thedudez0r | somiaj: google compute engine instance |
| 02:51.56 | somiaj | thedudez0r: wheezy-backports is just a collection of packages that are designed to work with wheezy to give newer software for wheezy. |
| 02:52.09 | JasonWoof | I have to re-run my xmodmap stuff every time I plug in a keyboard, and on my laptop, much more frequently (I think the keyboard idles out or something) |
| 02:52.20 | somiaj | JasonWoof: run that when you start your xsession or have your wm/desktop run it as a startup app |
| 02:52.29 | shay_shay | JasonWoof: .xsession |
| 02:53.09 | somiaj | thedudez0r: and this 'wheezy-backports' instance is just one that google provided for you? |
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| 02:53.47 | thedudez0r | somiaj: yes |
| 02:53.51 | JasonWoof | somiaj, shay_shay: I do run it from .xsession, but it gets reset mid-session. on my desktop, when I hot-plug a usb keyboard (minor annoyance) and on my laptop (M$ surface 3 + type pad) every time I leave it idle for a while (very annoying)= |
| 02:54.06 | thedudez0r | there is a wheezy and wheezy-backports image |
| 02:54.37 | JasonWoof | my guess is that the surface keyboard (type cover) turns itself off when it's idle for a while or something |
| 02:54.50 | somiaj | thedudez0r: I don't nkow what the difference between those images are or what they offer. So do you want to run systemd on the image, isn't the default sysvinit? |
| 02:54.51 | JasonWoof | I should check dmesg |
| 02:54.58 | thedudez0r | I think I have been able to do just what I did, but maybe that was with another build (i mean a flawless systemd+systemd-sysv installation) |
| 02:55.24 | thedudez0r | somiaj: yes I want to run systemd. And yes the default is sysvinit |
| 02:56.34 | somiaj | thedudez0r: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd -- I think you just need to make sure systemd-sysv is installed and things should work nicely |
| 02:56.47 | thedudez0r | ... |
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| 02:57.18 | somiaj | thedudez0r: anyways I'm not seeing the best way to debug your issue. Sound slike you did everything fine. |
| 02:57.22 | thedudez0r | I already did that. The problem is I ssh doesn't appear to start |
| 02:57.42 | somiaj | thedudez0r: check /lib/systemd/system/sshd.service (do you see a service file)? |
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| 02:58.21 | telmac | somiaj: so, any recommendations? |
| 02:58.58 | somiaj | telmac: did xorg not start when you tried to start it? |
| 02:59.29 | telmac | like I said, startx gives "no screens found" |
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| 03:00.07 | somiaj | telmac: I missed that, can you paste the logfile /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 03:01.07 | somiaj | thedudez0r: I haven't tried systemd on wheezy so I'm unsure if there are any known issues with it. But everything you did sounds fine. I just wanted to make sure I understood your setup. |
| 03:01.45 | telmac | http://telmac.pw/Xorg.0.log |
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| 03:03.43 | thedudez0r | somiaj: ls /lib/systemd/system|grep ssh shows nothing |
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| 03:04.18 | thedudez0r | I think I remember what I did back then. Back then I actually upgraded the whole wheezy installation to debian 8 (jessie?) |
| 03:04.27 | somiaj | thedudez0r: seems that there are no service files for ssh in wheezy. Not sure the best thing to do here. |
| 03:04.29 | thedudez0r | and I got systemd in the process |
| 03:04.45 | somiaj | thedudez0r: does google provide jessie images you can just use? |
| 03:04.51 | thedudez0r | somiaj: no |
| 03:05.23 | thedudez0r | I'd have to do the full system upgrade (I've been so long off debian I can't even remember how that's done) |
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| 03:06.10 | somiaj | thedudez0r: why not just stick with wheezy and sysvinit? And then wait for google to provide you with jessie images? |
| 03:06.51 | thedudez0r | h8 sysvinit <3 systemd |
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| 03:07.24 | thedudez0r | jk, I don't hate sysvinit, it's just that my infrastructure uses systemd-like features |
| 03:07.33 | somiaj | thedudez0r: the status of systemd in wheezy is just a tech preview, it may have issues such as missing service files and depends on how much work you want to do to get it to work. Or just wait for a jessie image. |
| 03:08.51 | thedudez0r | somiaj: no biggie I just remembered that I can simply do a full system upgrade wheezy -> jessie |
| 03:08.59 | somiaj | thedudez0r: read the relaese notes |
| 03:09.08 | somiaj | !tell thedudez0r about wheezy->jessie |
| 03:09.54 | somiaj | telmac: hmm, not seeing why it isn't working. installing firmware-linux-nonfree would get dri working, but I don't think that is the issue. |
| 03:10.13 | somiaj | telmac: how about paste the whole output of dmesg so I can check for messages about the kms and radeon driver |
| 03:11.25 | telmac | sure |
| 03:13.05 | telmac | http://telmac.pw/dmesg |
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| 03:13.43 | somiaj | telmac: ahh there it is, guess your card is new enough you have to have non-free firwamre |
| 03:14.00 | somiaj | telmac: 7.733391] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree. -- so install the firmawre, it *should* work after that |
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| 03:14.13 | somiaj | usually you don't have to have the firmware unless you want 3D acceeleration, guess your card requires it |
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| 03:15.17 | telmac | or, maybe old enough |
| 03:15.27 | telmac | that's the package name, firmware-linux-nonfree? |
| 03:15.37 | somiaj | yup, you may need to enable non-free sources though |
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| 03:17.05 | telmac | what would the line I need to add be for stretch? |
| 03:18.55 | somiaj | telmac: just add 'non-free' to the end of your current line, i.e. replace 'main' with 'main non-free' |
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| 03:21.49 | telmac | and if I want to use multiple displays now, I just need to plug them in? |
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| 03:23.09 | somiaj | telmac: yup |
| 03:23.18 | somiaj | telmac: might need to use xrandr to turn them on/off or configure the layout |
| 03:23.25 | telmac | yeah |
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| 03:34.27 | thedudez0r | somiaj: ooc, do you still use wheezy? you haven't made the move towards systemd? |
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| 03:40.39 | thedudez0r | and the eternal question.. should I install grub to sda (full disk) or sda1 (/ partition) |
| 03:40.45 | thedudez0r | ... |
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| 03:46.39 | thedudez0r | well the dist upgrade went fine |
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| 03:46.43 | thedudez0r | good stuff |
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| 03:51.00 | somiaj | thedudez0r: I run sid on my desktop and jessie on my laptop (been running it since before the release). I'm slowly learning systemd. I like something about it, I dont' like the 'bloat' |
| 03:51.19 | somiaj | thedudez0r: intsall it to the mbr (sda) unless you have specific reason not to |
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| 04:54.55 | telmac | okay, just recently installed a gpu |
| 04:55.04 | telmac | running fine with two displays, it's amd |
| 04:55.22 | telmac | opengl isn't working at all, not sure where to start |
| 04:56.16 | telmac | and I ran glxgears just in case, prints: Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
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| 05:13.52 | a7xr | hello. |
| 05:14.02 | H3ruS | hello |
| 05:14.03 | H3ruS | \o |
| 05:14.43 | a7xr | when I do 'apt-get update' it tells me to install 'oracle-java9-installer' |
| 05:14.53 | a7xr | and I don't want that to be installed |
| 05:14.58 | H3ruS | with debian version ? |
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| 05:15.01 | H3ruS | wich* |
| 05:15.10 | a7xr | 7 |
| 05:15.14 | H3ruS | its a new install ? |
| 05:15.38 | a7xr | I installed it 2months ago |
| 05:15.42 | H3ruS | ok |
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| 05:15.53 | H3ruS | try sudo aptitude install -f |
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| 05:17.01 | a7xr | http://sprunge.us/CbgA |
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| 05:17.35 | H3ruS | a7xr: and ? |
| 05:17.50 | H3ruS | so ... sudo aptitude update |
| 05:17.51 | a7xr | dpkg --configure -a :::: http://sprunge.us/ffMD |
| 05:17.52 | dpkg | a7xr: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 05:19.13 | H3ruS | a7xr: works ? |
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| 05:20.06 | a7xr | H3ruS, http://sprunge.us/VLeY |
| 05:20.43 | a7xr | that is the result of dpkg --configure -a |
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| 05:22.47 | H3ruS | ahhhh have u tried sudo aptitude install -f |
| 05:22.48 | H3ruS | ? |
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| 05:22.53 | H3ruS | weird |
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| 05:49.49 | hatter_ | I am trying to install jessie from a netboot install across tftpd, this box has 2x 4tb hard drives and cant get past the partitioning : partition length of 5860530176 sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imposed maximum of 4294967295 |
| 05:49.52 | hatter_ | what do i do ? |
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| 05:54.22 | myrika | Hi all, I'd like to know if it's normal for packages in jessie-backports or stretch to have missing dependencies? |
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| 05:55.32 | myrika | If not do I just email one of the maintainers? |
| 05:55.56 | orzo | what's missing? |
| 05:56.16 | orzo | i don't think it is normal |
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| 05:56.46 | orzo | oh wait |
| 05:56.48 | myrika | python3-eventlet doesn't have python3 or python3-greenlet as dependencies. It only does in sid but not in backports/testing |
| 05:56.49 | orzo | you said 'stretch' |
| 05:56.52 | orzo | it is normal for stretch |
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| 05:58.38 | orzo | my understanding is things autoamtically move from sid to stretch when they go for two weeks without a new bug report |
| 05:58.41 | orzo | something like that |
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| 05:59.04 | orzo | their dependencies may lag behind in sid |
| 05:59.19 | discovered | Is there any software that can make video presentation(mp4) ? |
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| 05:59.44 | orzo | discovered: yes. yes there is. |
| 05:59.56 | jeeves_moss | how do I create an upstart? I need to setup some GPIO pins as the service starts, then be able to togle the logic level after |
| 06:00.02 | discovered | orzo, name it? |
| 06:00.31 | orzo | ffmpeg can make mp4 files, mencoder also probably |
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| 06:01.15 | myrika | but shouldn't jessie-backports pull all dependencies from jessie? the dependencies are in stable it's only the package that seems misconfigured imo. eventlet cannot work without greenlet so it's necessary in this case. |
| 06:01.38 | civillian | hatter_: you'll need to use GPT partitioning instead of msdos |
| 06:01.58 | discovered | orzo, i want to make advertising slide presentation to upload in youtube |
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| 06:02.18 | orzo | hm |
| 06:02.21 | discovered | dunno how to use ffmpeg for this |
| 06:02.39 | orzo | you want me to help you reduce my enoyment of watching youtube vids |
| 06:02.58 | discovered | just saying |
| 06:03.49 | orzo | gimp can make gifs |
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| 06:13.25 | hatter_ | civillian, ...which means the netboot install doesn't support disks larger than 2tb ? |
| 06:13.44 | hatter_ | the netboot install doesn't have parted |
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| 06:40.27 | coudy | hi, after upgrade to jessi, I can;t start ldap > error while running slapadd: /var/backups/slapd-2.4.31-2/dc=svk,dc=sys,dc=corp.ldif: No such file or directory |
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| 06:45.56 | jelly | coudy: is the dump there, in that directory, at all? |
| 06:46.18 | jelly | (well, slapcat, not "dump") |
| 06:46.39 | coudy | jelly: there are 2 folders, one is copy of /etc/ldap, second is db from /var/lib/ldap |
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| 06:50.41 | coudy | jelly: I found db dumb, placed it on right place, and run apt-get upgrade , http://paste.jabbim.cz/6845 I still have errors |
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| 06:54.59 | jelly | coudy: that's about the extent of my knowledge here. if you can figure out exactly which command is failing, maybe you can ask in #ldap |
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| 06:56.09 | coudy | jelly: I was able to repair db, but now I see ths on config http://paste.jabbim.cz/6846 , ldap start, then stops |
| 06:56.30 | jelly | coudy: eg. add "set -x" as second line of /var/lib/dpkg/info/slapd.postinst, then run "dpkg --configure -a" again, then see what the script does? |
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| 06:59.36 | coudy | jelly: http://paste.jabbim.cz/6847 |
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| 06:59.52 | nongeek | Hello all |
| 07:00.02 | nongeek | How can I upgrade my Debian 7.7 to 8? |
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| 07:02.39 | pfalcone | @nongeek - https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 07:03.54 | coudy | jelly: sorry, here is the right one > http://paste.jabbim.cz/6848 |
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| 07:05.58 | jelly | coudy: so the failing slapadd is the one in line 205 |
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| 07:08.01 | coudy | jelly: yes, script can't load backup, because there is no backup file, when I copy my old slapcat backup to that location, and rename it to corresponding filename, then is slapd configured |
| 07:08.22 | coudy | jelly: but then it show another error> slapadd: line 1: database #1 (dc=svk,dc=sys,dc=corp) not configured to hold "dc=nodomain"; no database configured for that naming context |
| 07:09.07 | jelly | did you have a power failure during the upgrade process or something? That slapcat .ldif shouldn't have disappeared |
| 07:10.19 | coudy | no, |
| 07:11.31 | coudy | I tried it several times, moved /var/backups to another location, and then run again apt-get upgrade, .ldif dump is not created |
| 07:11.45 | jelly | I do not know whether the prerm script (that creates the .ldif) does something special to it to make it more suitable for import for the upgraded slapd package |
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| 07:12.28 | jelly | coudy: well it's too late now for it to be created when /var/lib/ldap is wiped clean |
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| 07:15.24 | coudy | jelly: ok I have backup with slapcat, I need only create new db and import it, can you help me < |
| 07:16.17 | jelly | not really, I'm as stumped as you are with what do to next |
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| 07:17.29 | jelly | so ask in #ldap, or in debian-users mailing list, or file a bug report on slapd and hope for a quick response |
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| 07:54.03 | Vitfalk | hello guys |
| 07:54.14 | Vitfalk | im new debisn user |
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| 07:54.21 | GPenguin | congrats |
| 07:54.22 | Vitfalk | debisn user |
| 07:54.43 | Vitfalk | thanx GPenguin |
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| 07:55.03 | Vitfalk | im using Antix |
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| 07:55.42 | Vitfalk | and i'm upgrading distro from wheezy to jessie |
| 07:56.11 | GPenguin | and you studied the release notes i hope? |
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| 08:23.15 | joegiampaoli | Is it safe to remove all "dev" packages on the system after probably finishing compiling a lot of stuff? With the following command <aptitude -F '%p' search '~i -dev$'> I can see all of them. |
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| 08:28.42 | DarsVaeda | how does samba work in jessie? I do not have samba installed (I think) but I still can connect to smb:// folders |
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| 08:30.27 | Stummi | joegiampaoli, you can type "aptitude purge '~n-dev$'" and see what it would do |
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| 08:35.00 | joegiampaoli | Stummi: Holly crap! A lot of dependencies! hmmmm OK, I was just trying to free up some space. I have to be more careful by only removing those I installed myself... |
| 08:35.02 | somiaj | DarsVaeda: there are servers and clients, you probably have the cifs file system and client installed so you can connect to shares. |
| 08:35.54 | Stummi | joegiampaoli, you could just mark every -dev packages as automatically isntalled. Then it will remove all the packages where no other packages depends on |
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| 08:36.43 | joegiampaoli | Stummi: OK, that could work, thanks! :) |
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| 08:37.27 | coudy | jelly: Hi, I have removed all slapd packages, and tried to install from clean, [FAIL] Starting OpenLDAP: slapd failed! |
| 08:37.32 | donCams | hi. anyone know how I can install php5.5 without the apache-related packages? the one from dotdeb has apache-related packages |
| 08:37.41 | DarsVaeda | somiaj, thanks |
| 08:38.19 | somiaj | !dotdeb |
| 08:38.19 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
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| 08:38.25 | rom1v | hi |
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| 08:38.36 | rom1v | is it possible to enable autocompletion for apt (not apt-get)? |
| 08:38.38 | somiaj | donCams: dotdeb is a third party source, and is known to make fairly poor packages. I personally woudln't use them. |
| 08:38.52 | donCams | somiaj: any suggestion? :/ |
| 08:39.05 | donCams | and yeah, I kinda agree with that |
| 08:39.13 | somiaj | donCams: I'd persoanlly use the php that comes with jessie. But you can try to build your own packages if you like. |
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| 08:40.22 | donCams | i'm noob. so I should add jessie source to sources.list? |
| 08:40.30 | somiaj | donCams: since php isn't uncommon to find security bugs, you won't get any security support which to me is important. |
| 08:40.33 | somiaj | ,v php5 |
| 08:40.34 | judd | Package: php5 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3.1-7+squeeze26; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; stretch: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.7+dfsg-1 |
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| 08:41.26 | somiaj | donCams: no. But if you have to have a php version newer than that in wheezy, considering upgrading to jessie for 5.6 would be your best bet in my opinion. |
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| 08:41.38 | donCams | oh... :/ |
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| 08:46.56 | coudy | hi, I can't start slapd after upgrade... Starting OpenLDAP: slapd failed! , and nothing is in log http://paste.jabbim.cz/6849 |
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| 08:48.25 | ChrisH | coudy: check systemctl status slapd |
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| 08:58.00 | atomtm | Hello ! I just connected two computers (one debian - one windows 8) with a crossover cable to test ntp |
| 08:58.08 | atomtm | Once connected debian froze , so I had to hold the power button to reset the machine . |
| 08:58.14 | atomtm | The windows 8 machine is highly suspected to be infected . |
| 08:58.19 | atomtm | Could this mean that anyhow something was spread over my debian system ? |
| 08:58.30 | atomtm | sorry I double post but I lost connection |
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| 08:58.32 | anddam | I installed "cython" and it pulled in libpython-dev libpython2.7-dev python-dev python2.7-dev , I then purged python with apt-get and APT removed just cython package. I tried "apt-get autoremove" and APT removed 0 packages. Why is this? Shouldn't packages pulled in as dependency be marked auto? And shouldn't them be removed once the package depending on them gets removed? |
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| 09:01.12 | ChrisH | atomtm: both systems have static Networksetuop? |
| 09:01.21 | atomtm | yes |
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| 09:03.36 | atomtm | Chrish : is there a difference? |
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| 09:04.35 | ChrisH | if DHCP is active both sides wait for a DHCP Server to answer. But I have no idea on windows side. |
| 09:04.56 | coudy | ChrisH: sorry.. I was disconnected |
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| 09:05.11 | atomtm | ChrisH, what about the freeze |
| 09:05.25 | atomtm | ChrisH, the system wasn't responding |
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| 09:09.24 | ChrisH | atomtm: dunno. should not affect the box. check the logfiles from before |
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| 09:11.54 | atomtm | ChrisH, what logfiles should I search for ? sorry for my ignorance ! |
| 09:12.22 | ChrisH | atomtm: I would check below /var/log and run ls -rtl there |
| 09:12.37 | atomtm | ChrisH, in general what is the risk of infection when connecting a Debian machine to a Windows one ? |
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| 09:14.01 | ChrisH | atomtm: difficult to day, but I would say very low |
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| 09:14.59 | ChrisH | s/day/say |
| 09:15.09 | atomtm | ChrisH, hope so ! Is there anything I can check for ? |
| 09:15.25 | atomtm | Don't know what I am looking for in the log files |
| 09:15.27 | DarsVaeda | I always get connection timed out when trying to connect to a windows 7 samba server |
| 09:15.57 | atomtm | yes but this wasnt a timeout . It was like my machine went into an infinite loop |
| 09:16.03 | DarsVaeda | I tried installing samba and setting workgroup and netbios name in the samba config as suggested by some tutorial but still no luck |
| 09:16.18 | DarsVaeda | it connected fine to some point but then suddenly I get that error |
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| 09:20.39 | ChrisH | atomtm: cant you retry and open a local terminal with tail -f /var/log/syslog running? |
| 09:21.55 | coudy | hi, any help with clean install slapd? config error processing olcDatabase={1}mdb,cn=config: olcDbDirectory: value #0: invalid path: Permission denied |
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| 09:26.06 | abcd5939 | Hi, I have following problem: our mediateam uploads files to webserver, I set setgid, so that newly created files/subdirs have mediateam group ID and not that of users, but the problem is that the user ID of the new files/subdirs are set to the user ID who uploaded the file and it should stay www-data, otherwise our web-server doesn't like it. I read that setting setuid has no effect on Linux. If so, how can I achieve the same result for |
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| 09:27.06 | atomtm | ChrisH, http://pastebin.com/nHMgHVMb |
| 09:27.17 | somiaj | abcd5939: it seems strange to me that you need to set the ownership to www-data for a webserver. |
| 09:27.24 | atomtm | ChrisH, this is : ls -rtl |
| 09:27.31 | Megaf | Hi all, little help please? |
| 09:27.33 | Megaf | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-i386/Packages Bad header line [IP: 193.1.193.65 80] |
| 09:27.33 | somiaj | abcd5939: what is your webserer doing besides reading the file and sharing it with the public? |
| 09:27.34 | atomtm | ChrisH, in var/log |
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| 09:28.02 | somiaj | Megaf: sounds like a corrupt mirror. I would suggest you use httprdir.debian.org as the mirror. |
| 09:28.05 | abcd5939 | somiaj: pseudostreaming |
| 09:28.24 | Megaf | somiaj: you mean http://dir.debian.org? |
| 09:28.28 | somiaj | abcd5939: but that requires more than reading the file, i.e. what is the webserver doing that requires it has permisions besides weed? |
| 09:28.32 | somiaj | Megaf: no |
| 09:28.47 | somiaj | !tell Megaf about jessie sources.list |
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| 09:29.08 | somiaj | Megaf: I mean httpredir.debian.org as per that factiod |
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| 09:29.25 | somiaj | Megaf: it is just a better redirector than ftp.ie.debian.org |
| 09:30.23 | abcd5939 | somiaj: probably nothing |
| 09:30.24 | somiaj | abcd5939: but if your webserver really needs to be able to write to the files (this is usually considered dangrous). Add your webserver to the media group that is getting set with gid, and modify the umask of the directory so the group has write privlages and the webserver can share in that. |
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| 09:31.13 | somiaj | abcd5939: most likely the umask is set up (sound slike it), so why not just add the webserver to the group that is being used. |
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| 09:31.34 | Megaf | somiaj: cool, thanks, that one seems to not work either |
| 09:32.14 | somiaj | Megaf: guess they are both redirecting to the same mirror (or one with the same corruption). |
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| 09:32.40 | somiaj | Megaf: might want to go pick a tempoary mirror https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 09:32.40 | Megaf | http://paste.debian.net/plain/179467 |
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| 09:33.05 | somiaj | Megaf: again your error seems like a mirror has a courpt file and you shuld just use a different mirror. I was hoping httpredir.debian.org would pick a better mirror |
| 09:33.09 | Megaf | somiaj: actually they are giving different IPs |
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| 09:33.20 | abcd5939 | somiaj: but if actually the server doesn't have to write to those files (they are video/audio) - is it better to set the owners as mediateam:mediateam and give the permissions: 775? |
| 09:33.41 | Megaf | somiaj: I noticed that on other computers and I noticed it only happens on 32 bit mirrors |
| 09:33.54 | somiaj | abcd5939: if they are 775 the the owner should just default to the person who uploaded. Since the whole group and write doens' tmatter whot he owner is |
| 09:34.02 | Megaf | the 64 bit repositories seems to work well |
| 09:34.08 | somiaj | Megaf: yea it is just a single file that is corrupt |
| 09:34.20 | Megaf | oh |
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| 09:35.19 | somiaj | Megaf: now if it effects more than one mirror that means there might be a bigger problem than just the mirror you happen to be using. But and error like that usually just means something is wrong with the mirror you are using, so use a different mirror. |
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| 09:37.07 | abcd5939 | somiaj: where and how should I set the umask so that newly uploaded files/subdir (1) can be edited by the mediateam group (2) webserver can read them? Thank you! |
| 09:37.33 | Megaf | somiaj: problem is the security.debian.org |
| 09:37.51 | ChrisH | atomtm: and what is your quesion on the paste? run tail -f on messages, syslog and/or daemon.log and replug the cable. |
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| 09:38.02 | somiaj | abcd5939: http://askubuntu.com/questions/44534/how-to-set-umask-for-a-specific-folder |
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| 09:38.15 | abcd5939 | somiaj: thank you! |
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| 09:38.36 | somiaj | Megaf: the error you posted says it is the mirror you are getting redirected to by httpredir.debian.org (not secuirty) |
| 09:39.05 | somiaj | note security.debian.org has mirrors, but the error you posted doesn't seem to suggest that is the problem. |
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| 09:40.11 | somiaj | abcd5939: note I would just make sure all the files are world readable. If they are hidden inside a directory that is not world readable then you have to ensure the webserver can see inside that directory. |
| 09:40.28 | somiaj | abcd5939: i.e. the webserver shoudn't have to do more than read the files i would imangine. |
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| 09:42.33 | abcd5939 | somiaj: yes correct I would like to do this - give r/x permissions to the world. The problem is that sometimes when user upload files permissions change to 755 and so other members of the group no longer can edit them |
| 09:42.36 | atomtm | ChrisH, k will do that . Pls forgive my ignorance . Just started using debian |
| 09:43.17 | abcd5939 | somiaj: can 775 be forced using umask? |
| 09:43.26 | somiaj | abcd5939: yea the umask seems to be an issue. Also make sure the users are 'copying' the files. I think if they mv the files it won't use the umask |
| 09:43.47 | abcd5939 | somiaj: thank you very much! |
| 09:43.59 | somiaj | abcd5939: that link I gave you should do exactly that. Now if the user mvs a file or uses a program which tries to preserve permisions it may undo what the umask does |
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| 09:45.51 | abcd5939 | somiaj: if a user just mv's the file the permissions should stay as they were before, rigth? 2) the users use filezilla to upload, is there a way to force it to give 775? |
| 09:46.49 | somiaj | abcd5939: I think it depends on if filezilla just 'copies' the file, or if it tries to perseve the permsission which means it copies the file (so the defaults get set as 775 as you wish, though for files you should really use 664) and then changes the permisions on the newly created file to match the original. |
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| 09:48.45 | abcd5939 | somiaj: and if it tries to match the original - is there a way to do something on my side? |
| 09:48.48 | somiaj | abcd5939: you could also just write a cron job that goes though and fixes the permissions (kinda of a hack, and I would only do this if you find that users use software that try to persev permissions) |
| 09:49.13 | somiaj | abcd5939: i.e. chmod -R g=rwx /path/to/media/dir |
| 09:49.15 | abcd5939 | somiaj: yes they, seemingly do |
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| 09:49.48 | somiaj | abcd5939: assuming the setgid isn't the issue and it is just permissions, run that cron job every so often, it will fix the group permissions |
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| 09:50.43 | abcd5939 | somiaj: Ok, one more question how do I differentiate between files (to set 664) and dirs(to set 775)? |
| 09:50.47 | somiaj | abcd5939: but the setfacl (access control lists) should do what you want. I'm just a hobbist so I have very little experience with this, so dont' take my word for it) |
| 09:51.08 | somiaj | abcd5939: this is fmaks vs dmask, unsure how to do it with setfacl |
| 09:52.09 | abcd5939 | somiaj: and how do I change the existing files to 664 while omitting the subdirs? |
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| 09:52.30 | somiaj | abcd5939: as for a cronjob, you can use find and only find files and then directory and then put the correct permission on them (again I think the cron job way is a hack but it would work if users are unintentionally modifing your defaults) |
| 09:52.50 | somiaj | abcd5939: find /path/to/media/dir -type f | xargs chmod 664 |
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| 09:53.01 | somiaj | abcd5939: find /path/to/media/dir -type d | xargs chmod 775 |
| 09:53.22 | abcd5939 | somiaj: thank you very much, again! |
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| 09:54.07 | somiaj | abcd5939: I would personaly do some test and see if setfacl (access control lists) can suit your needs as opposed to having to do the cron job/hack. |
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| 09:54.33 | abcd5939 | somiaj: Ok , I'll try |
| 09:55.50 | somiaj | abcd5939: http://superuser.com/questions/91935/how-to-chmod-all-directories-except-files-recursively -- acctual that looks better than my piping to xargs option. use the -exec option of find. |
| 09:56.07 | abcd5939 | thanks |
| 09:56.10 | Megaf | http://paste.debian.net/plain/179474 |
| 09:56.14 | Megaf | somiaj: ^ |
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| 09:57.40 | somiaj | Megaf: hmm, getting bad headers and then 404. Again I would usually think mirror. It could be you just need to wait for the mirrors to be fixed. But if this keeps up, could ti be something to do with your nameservers or network causing issues? |
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| 09:58.22 | nadu | hi |
| 09:58.39 | Megaf | somiaj: Im having these issues on 32 bit mirrors from different geographic locations, England, Ireland and Brazil to be more precise |
| 09:58.48 | somiaj | Megaf: I dno't have a stable box handy to test it to see if I get the same issue. But it could just be the mirrors you are being redirected to from security.debian.org and httpredir.debian.org (or ftp.ie.debian.org) are having trouble and you should just wait it out. |
| 09:58.53 | Megaf | London, Dublin and Porto Alegre |
| 09:59.01 | nadu | what's the recommended way to dissable the default apache2 website? |
| 09:59.08 | Megaf | 3 completely different network providers and mirrors |
| 09:59.12 | somiaj | it could be possible a master mirror is corrupt, and then mirrors are getting this too. |
| 09:59.22 | nadu | I have an owncloud and don't need /var/www |
| 09:59.48 | somiaj | nadu: modify the apache2 config, /etc/apache2/sites-enabled |
| 10:00.16 | petn-randall | nadu: 'a2dissite 000-default' |
| 10:00.47 | somiaj | nadu: or listen to someone who knoes the apache commands to modify those links. I always end up doing it by hand. :/ |
| 10:00.58 | nadu | somiaj, I already did that, but /var/www is 'hard coded' into apache2.conf |
| 10:01.57 | somiaj | nadu: my expreince says that is the 000-default site petn-randall talked about. |
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| 10:02.22 | somiaj | nadu: i.e. that is the config file that metnions /var/www. If for somereason it is in the apache2.conf, you can edit it. |
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| 10:03.01 | petn-randall | nadu: apache won't serve files from /var/www/ if you have 000-default disabled. |
| 10:03.45 | somiaj | the only thing in apache2.conf about /var/www is just some permisions issues, not if it will use /var/www as a Root directory |
| 10:03.52 | Megaf | anyone on Debian 32 bit? Please run an apt-get update to see if it works fine |
| 10:04.41 | somiaj | Megaf: should clairfy jessie. But yea if you are getting this on 32bit servers on various mirrors. It sounds like a bug, but I can't help debug it. (I just run a sid desktop as an hobbiest) |
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| 10:05.20 | Megaf | somiaj: funny thing is, the only reason I use Debian is because of stability and relibility, things I'm not having at the moment. We cannont afford such inconsistences =/ |
| 10:05.39 | somiaj | Megaf: yea it seems very strange to me too. |
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| 10:05.57 | nadu | petn-randall: that's the only file I've enabled: http://fpaste.org/222884/43194345/ |
| 10:06.01 | Megaf | somiaj: uk, us, de, ie, br, all these primary mirrors are broken |
| 10:06.22 | petn-randall | Megaf: I'm sure it will resolve itself very soon if it's broken on such a large scale. |
| 10:06.23 | nadu | I used a2dissite on 000-default and a2ensite on this file |
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| 10:06.45 | somiaj | Megaf: rember that ftp.countrycode.debian.org aren't mirrors but redirectors. I gave you a full mirror list. Did you try to use one of the mirrors directly over the reidrector. |
| 10:06.51 | Megaf | somiaj: you can just add http://ftp.uk.debian.org jessie main to your sources.list and run apt-get update |
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| 10:07.05 | Megaf | somiaj: ok, Iwill try some |
| 10:07.07 | Megaf | hold on |
| 10:07.10 | nadu | though apache still displays /var/www/html/index.html |
| 10:07.40 | Megaf | restart it |
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| 10:08.13 | Deele | hello, I corrupted and after that removed /etc/sudoers and /etc/sudoers.d in hope that "apt-get install sudo" will re-create them but it turns out, it did not, how can get original sudo* files? |
| 10:08.31 | petn-randall | !tell deele about confmiss |
| 10:08.52 | petn-randall | !tell Deele about confmiss |
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| 10:09.10 | petn-randall | Deele: Check the message from dpkg. |
| 10:09.32 | Deele | petn-randall, yes, bot spammed me more than it should, I noticed |
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| 10:09.36 | somiaj | Megaf: I just tried and yes I'm getting the same errors for security.debian.net for both amd64 and i386 packages. I would say there si some bug and I would assume it is being worked on. |
| 10:09.39 | nadu | Mmm, the default site is still display, but only if I use port 80 |
| 10:10.08 | petn-randall | Deele: Yeah sorry, my fault. :S |
| 10:10.10 | somiaj | nadu: that config file you gave only configures https port. I would check your sites-enabled directory again. |
| 10:10.19 | Megaf | somiaj: its been weeks already =/ |
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| 10:10.35 | Ticho | Megaf: did you report a bug? |
| 10:10.46 | petn-randall | Megaf: Are you using a broken proxy on your side? |
| 10:10.46 | Megaf | same problem on german mirrors |
| 10:10.53 | Megaf | direct mirror this time |
| 10:10.58 | nadu | somiaj: thanks. I think I'll got it ;) |
| 10:11.06 | Megaf | petn-randall: somiaj just confirmed on his end |
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| 10:11.23 | Megaf | petn-randall: Im having the same problem in servers i have in Brazil, England and Ireland |
| 10:11.25 | somiaj | Megaf: booting up my jessie laptop |
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| 10:12.13 | somiaj | Megaf: works just fine on my laptop. not sure why my desktop didn't like it |
| 10:12.28 | Deele | thank you petn-randall, is there a way to shortcut this approach, that command line seems too long |
| 10:12.30 | Megaf | petn-randall: and I do believe that they must be working on that already, if not, then there is no reason and is not even recommended to still use Debian after such a wide spread fault |
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| 10:12.47 | Megaf | somiaj: weird |
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| 10:12.53 | petn-randall | somiaj, Megaf, it's security.debian.*org*, not .net. And it works fine for me, 32 and 64 bit. |
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| 10:13.19 | Megaf | W: Failed to fetch http://deb-mirror.de/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 109.230.212.54 80] |
| 10:13.20 | somiaj | Megaf: I figured it out, paste your line for security from your sources.list |
| 10:13.34 | Megaf | somiaj: but it not only from security |
| 10:13.52 | somiaj | Megaf: care to paste your sources.list, my jessie machine works just fine. |
| 10:13.58 | petn-randall | Megaf: Show us the full output of 'apt-get update' and your /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 10:14.02 | somiaj | Megaf: I was just to lazy to boot it up before. |
| 10:14.20 | somiaj | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/plain/179467 |
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| 10:15.22 | petn-randall | somiaj, Megaf, httpredir.debian.org is not the same as security.debian.org. Am I missing something here? |
| 10:15.54 | somiaj | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/plain/179474 |
| 10:16.26 | somiaj | Megaf: yea sorry, the issue was on my end. Works fine now that I fixed my sources.list (I'm jsut tired and can't sleep, had a typo in my sources.list) so no I can't confirm it. It is working for me. |
| 10:16.41 | somiaj | Megaf: so please share your sources.list |
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| 10:17.08 | Megaf | hold on |
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| 10:20.00 | Megaf | Im still wating for apt-get update finish |
| 10:21.11 | Megaf | http://paste.debian.net/plain/179482 < sources.list |
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| 10:22.55 | somiaj | Megaf: your first two mirrors (ftp.ie.debian.org) usually need a debian at the end, http://ftp.ie.debian.org/debian |
| 10:22.59 | Megaf | Ok, I found a mmistake I think |
| 10:23.03 | somiaj | Megaf: the security.debian.org looks correct. |
| 10:23.31 | Megaf | somiaj: you are correct about that, I just realized that |
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| 10:25.41 | Megaf | somiaj: with the proper url apt-get update gets stuck at 0% [Waiting for headers] |
| 10:26.23 | somiaj | Megaf: that sounds like a network issue. But again I would use the httpredir.debian.org mirror over the one you are using. The old country code redirect mirros just aren't as good. |
| 10:28.21 | Megaf | somiaj: I tried ftp instead of http and it finally gave me a meaningful error message |
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| 10:28.40 | Megaf | Err ftp://130.89.148.12 jessie/main i386 Packages |
| 10:28.40 | Megaf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:29.30 | petn-randall | Megaf: That's why we always ask for the complete output. |
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| 10:29.59 | Megaf | petn-randall: problem is, it only gave that error when I used ftp instead of http |
| 10:31.52 | Megaf | anyway, thanks for your help somiaj and petn-randall |
| 10:33.52 | Megaf | other thing that I changed is used the IP of ftp.debian.org instead of a domain |
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| 10:35.05 | ChrisH | bugs.debian.org offline? |
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| 10:36.44 | Megaf | not here |
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| 10:40.25 | ChrisH | Megaf: now its working again for me, too. |
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| 10:51.17 | ChrisH | How do I enable coredumps beeing written in Jessie? SHouldn't systemd do that by default? |
| 10:52.03 | Voyage | $ gpg --sign Signed-Ade\ Shokoya_Reciprocal-CQ_Technologies.pdf gpg: no default secret key: secret key not available gpg: signing failed: secret key not available |
| 10:52.31 | ksk | Voyage: specify the secret key to use? do you have a gpg-keypair? |
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| 10:55.00 | tomodachi | Adnn: perhaps you downloaded eclipese from their homepage? then its outside of the reach or knowledge of apt to remove |
| 10:55.53 | Adnn | tomodachi, I had downloaded it using apt, but it's an obsolete version. That's why I want to get rid of it. The splash screen is that of the old version. |
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| 10:58.07 | Voyage | ksk, isnt there an easy way. gui way? |
| 10:58.08 | SynrG | up-to-date chipsets can be a problem both for radeon and for intel. |
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| 10:59.13 | suexec | Probably a dumb question. I have a folder owned by userB:www-data . Chmod 755. Is it possible to give userA write access to this folder, without changing chmod? (i.e giving userA userBs permissions) ? |
| 10:59.59 | nadu | mpf, apache is still using /var/www/html/index.html |
| 11:00.27 | ChrisH | suexec: with 755 not (well there are ACLs, but the way you ask I would not recommend to use ACLs) |
| 11:00.41 | nadu | I'm using this file in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled http://paste.debian.net/179501/ |
| 11:00.54 | suexec | ChrisH, yeah, that's what I though. I'll just hack it for this problem ;) |
| 11:01.16 | nadu | (well, it's in sites-available and I activated it using a2ensite helper) |
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| 11:22.59 | pzn | Voyage, and I send both files (the .pdf and the .pdf.asc) |
| 11:23.50 | pzn | Voyage, to verify: gpg --verify file.pdf.asc file.pdf |
| 11:24.17 | pzn | Voyage, I use this way, because I like to keep the original file and the signature on separated files |
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| 11:26.38 | Voyage | hm |
| 11:26.42 | Voyage | thanks |
| 11:28.37 | Voyage | pzn, verify by .sig was fine but $ gpg --verify pubkey.asc Signed-Ade\ Shokoya_Reciprocal-CQ_Technologies.pdf |
| 11:28.37 | Voyage | gpg: verify signatures failed: unexpected data |
| 11:29.09 | GPenguin | Voyage: could you please stop asking on 2 or more channels? |
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| 11:29.54 | Voyage | GPenguin, If I get helpers in 2 more. sure |
| 11:30.51 | GPenguin | why be a dick when people ask you politely to stop something bad? |
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| 11:31.12 | pzn | Voyage, asking in 2 channels simultaneous is really not a good etiquete. GPenguin is right. |
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| 11:32.09 | pzn | Voyage, you should import the key on gpg before trying to verify the signature. gpg --import pubkey.asc; gpg --verify ... |
| 11:32.36 | nadu | apache works as expected. had the site cached in firefox :D |
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| 11:43.57 | dodeluser | how can I display the output of e.g. "ls" in a text form of zenity? |
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| 11:46.39 | Failed0001 | so I installed my stuff and configured it while I was root so everything is in my root folder, fix? |
| 11:47.25 | Failed0001 | anyone home? |
| 11:47.34 | Failed0001 | guys? |
| 11:48.13 | jelly | ssh, no tears |
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| 11:48.31 | Failed0001 | So basically Im fucked? |
| 11:48.33 | jelly | Failed0001: how did you install your staff? What stuff was it? |
| 11:48.35 | jelly | !ask |
| 11:48.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:07.57 | petn-randall | Megaf: That's definitely the wrong way to do it. Never hardcode IP addresses into your sources.list. |
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| 12:12.09 | Iridos | right, use MAC addresses |
| 12:12.12 | Iridos | SCNR |
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| 12:25.10 | chalcedony | i have a different computer that my debian drive is in, it's squeeze - i can't get it to have a gui.. it comes up to a black screen and blinking cursor |
| 12:25.39 | chalcedony | ati rs680 ati radeon x1200 series |
| 12:26.07 | chalcedony | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/amd64/xserver-xorg-video-radeon/download |
| 12:26.16 | chalcedony | i think i used aptitude to get that |
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| 12:26.27 | chalcedony | but it still gives me the black screen |
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| 12:32.18 | petn-randall | chalcedony: Did it work before? Did you do a fresh install? Squeeze is very old by now, and only has limited support. |
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| 12:32.53 | chalcedony | petn-randall, it was fresh last year before the motherboard died |
| 12:33.06 | chalcedony | i kind of need to get it working and then upgrade i guess |
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| 12:34.34 | chalcedony | it did work before, with my other computer, just now it isn't again |
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| 12:35.07 | petn-randall | chalcedony: Press ctrl+alt+F1 to change to a terminal, log in there and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for any errors. |
| 12:35.20 | chalcedony | okies |
| 12:35.22 | chalcedony | ty |
| 12:35.23 | ChrisH | or upgrade from Terminal |
| 12:35.25 | Aiena | I want to install debian as a server with just minimal. I dont need x11 or a gui. Which ISO should I pick ? |
| 12:35.36 | ChrisH | Aiena: netinst |
| 12:35.55 | Aiena | ChrisH: and assuming i dont have a stable internet connection |
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| 12:36.15 | Aiena | is there something self contained. |
| 12:36.23 | joldy | You should pick the DVD |
| 12:36.26 | Aiena | or should i just use teh xfce one |
| 12:36.29 | Aiena | the |
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| 12:36.50 | joldy | What do you intend to do after it's installed? |
| 12:37.14 | joldy | World domination is not possible without the DVD |
| 12:37.17 | chalcedony | [ 14.570] (EE) No supported AMD display adapters were found |
| 12:37.17 | chalcedony | [ 14.570] (EE) No devices detected. |
| 12:37.26 | chalcedony | that does look like an error |
| 12:38.02 | Aiena | joldy: I always used to wondert why m,ost distros need the DVD for a minimal server ionstall and yet can provide smaller images with everything for a particluar DE |
| 12:38.07 | Aiena | wonder why that is so |
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| 12:38.31 | ChrisH | Aiena: because server normally are internet connected |
| 12:38.59 | Aiena | ok |
| 12:39.04 | petn-randall | Aiena: You only need the netinstaller (< 300 MB) for an install, but you need internet connection for that. If you want a complete install 100% offline, download and burn all DVDs/BDs. |
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| 12:39.42 | Aiena | ok |
| 12:40.33 | Aiena | thank you |
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| 12:47.08 | chalcedony | petn-randall, http://pastebin.com/qBHV1VYW |
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| 12:51.50 | Nik05 | is the BTS server down? |
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| 12:52.11 | chalcedony | hi Nik05 what's that? |
| 12:52.17 | Nik05 | bug tracking system |
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| 12:54.51 | lamham | Hi I am unable to switch to another language keyboard layout, I tried to do it normally from settings but no luck at all |
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| 12:55.45 | Nik05 | lamham did you try it dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration? |
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| 12:56.17 | lamham | Hi, let me check this |
| 12:56.50 | ChrisH | Nik05: I had very slow access and sometimes proxy errors this morning. |
| 12:56.52 | Nik05 | you need to be root for that. |
| 12:56.56 | Nik05 | ok thank you ChrisH |
| 12:57.08 | lamham | I know |
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| 13:04.48 | anddam | what's the appropriate package for XFCE, vim-gtk or vim-gnome? |
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| 13:06.04 | centrx | anddam, vim-gtk |
| 13:06.21 | anddam | thanks |
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| 13:18.08 | thebrush | hello in debian 8 is there status fixed icons? (for show skype and dropbox icon), thanks |
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| 13:18.30 | kuene | the bug: CVE-2015-3306 unauthenticated copying of files via SITE CPFR/CPTO for proftpd, does it affect also proftpd-basic package or only proftpd-dfsg? |
| 13:18.38 | kuene | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/proftpd-dfsg |
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| 13:28.52 | somiaj | Megaf: You don't want to use ip's. As I keep saying is use the redictor domian. |
| 13:29.02 | ksk | kuene: -dfsg seems to be the source package, and every -flavour of proftpd ist built from that - correct me please if Im wrong. |
| 13:29.30 | somiaj | !tell Megaf about httpredir.debian.net |
| 13:29.35 | somiaj | !tell Megaf about httpredir.debian.org |
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| 13:31.11 | chalcedony | ok i can breathe now. i remmbered wrong. it's wheezy not sqeeze :) |
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| 13:32.07 | kuene | ksk, that's what I thought but why are the other proftpd packages not listed as vulnerable here: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable |
| 13:32.37 | droid909 | guys, i want to add different keyboar inputs in my xfce debian box, how do i do it? |
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| 13:33.16 | ksk | I dont know that. |
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| 13:35.16 | kuene | ksk, do you know where I could find this information. because this is a pretty serious vulnerability... |
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| 13:37.19 | anddam | how do I copy a file's content so to paste it in a GUI program? |
| 13:37.41 | anddam | I'm using a terminal emulator and willing to paste into iceweasel, on bpaste service |
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| 13:38.14 | duelle | anddam, I think there are tools to paste text directly from terminal to such a service (e.g., sprunge.us) |
| 13:38.24 | lotherk | anddam: mark the text and press ctrl+shift+c and then ctrl+v in iceweasel or just mark the text with your mouse und press the middle mousebutton where you want to paste it |
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| 13:38.59 | dTal | asturel: xsel is the program that does what you want |
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| 13:40.17 | anddam | lotherk: marking the text is not an option |
| 13:40.46 | lotherk | anddam: why is that? |
| 13:41.12 | anddam | hundreds of lines |
| 13:41.13 | lotherk | you can also try xclip |
| 13:41.16 | lotherk | cat file | xclip |
| 13:41.26 | lotherk | you may have to install xclip first. |
| 13:41.41 | anddam | in fact I remember using xclip but it didn't came with xfce |
| 13:41.48 | anddam | I thought there was something more general purpose |
| 13:41.52 | anddam | like something coming with Xorg |
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| 13:42.03 | lotherk | xclip is not related to xfce, it's just a little tool |
| 13:42.07 | anddam | reading xsel(1x) |
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| 13:44.46 | anddam | xsel -b it is |
| 13:45.05 | anddam | shorter than "xclip -sel clip" anyway |
| 13:45.07 | numzob | Is /usr/local a safe location to put non-package programs? My goal is to not overwrite anything if a duplicate library is created. |
| 13:45.10 | anddam | (yay for aliases) |
| 13:45.25 | buu | numzob: There's always /opt |
| 13:45.36 | anddam | numzob: possibly stow |
| 13:45.46 | anddam | target dirs are versioned |
| 13:45.51 | anddam | !tell numzob about stow |
| 13:45.52 | numzob | so /opt would be safer? |
| 13:46.09 | anddam | numzob: you didn't tell what the hazard is |
| 13:46.21 | buu | I don't know if there's an official way to do it but in my experience debian will never touch /opt |
| 13:46.27 | fireba11 | i'm using /srv usually since i add services but both are ok |
| 13:46.30 | numzob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:46.50 | buu | I'm pretty sure debian doesn't do much with /usr/local either, but yeah |
| 13:47.13 | teraflop | anddam: from terminal Id consider using ix, sprunge, clbin, ptpb etc etc |
| 13:47.16 | anddam | numzob: that I got, but that's not necessarily unsafe |
| 13:47.23 | numzob | ok. thank you for the information. :) |
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| 13:47.42 | defa | hi! i have a somewhat stupid problem. i have a vanilla debian with xfce and icedove + enigmail. i imported gpg key material by copying it to ~/.gnupg and all sec- and pub-keys are there, and enigmail key manager shows everything. however enigmail complaints about missing keys ? |
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| 13:47.52 | anddam | query dpkg |
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| 14:05.39 | Megaf | folks, I'm trying to install kfreebsd here usin this iso http://141.76.2.4/debian/dists/stable-kfreebsd/main/installer-kfreebsd-i386/current/images/netboot-10/mini.iso |
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| 14:06.00 | Megaf | but Icant seem to get to select the right mirror on the repo list |
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| 14:08.27 | Fjorgynn | :( |
| 14:09.22 | petn-randall | Fjorgynn: Why the sad face? |
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| 14:10.11 | Megaf | Im alsmost running out of battery on this machine, any help please? |
| 14:10.17 | Fjorgynn | I just came up with an awesome joke, but it's in Swedish |
| 14:10.57 | Megaf | This would be the mirror I want to use ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable-kfreebsd |
| 14:11.13 | Fjorgynn | what is kfreebsd? |
| 14:11.19 | Megaf | I just dont know how to write that on the Debian installer, since it cant figure out by itself |
| 14:11.32 | Fjorgynn | I will look it up as soon as my browser starts. I am using Windows 7 so it might take awhil |
| 14:11.35 | Fjorgynn | e |
| 14:11.58 | petn-randall | Megaf: What part of selecting the mirror doesn't work? |
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| 14:12.23 | Megaf | petn-randall: the part where I choose either sid, jessie or the other test version |
| 14:12.33 | Megaf | it says the mirror doesnt support my architecture |
| 14:12.47 | Megaf | i386 kfreebsd would be the correct choice |
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| 14:12.51 | Megaf | and actually wheezy |
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| 14:13.57 | Megaf | 12 minutes of battery left (I dont have my charger with me) |
| 14:14.42 | Fjorgynn | :( |
| 14:14.44 | petn-randall | Megaf: All primary mirrors support kfreebsd: https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 14:14.58 | Megaf | petn-randall: tell that to debian installer |
| 14:14.59 | petn-randall | Megaf: Are you sure this isn't just a reincarnation of the problem you had before? |
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| 14:15.55 | Megaf | petn-randall: I am |
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| 14:17.27 | petn-randall | Megaf: Like before, your web proxy (or maybe even DNS) is broken, you need to fix that first before you can use *any* of the repos. |
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| 14:17.56 | Megaf | problem is, kfreebsd debian installer is only getting dists for debian linux |
| 14:18.25 | petn-randall | Megaf: That's expected? How is that a problem? |
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| 14:18.54 | themill | Megaf: I assume you're aware that kfreebsd is not in jessie |
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| 14:19.57 | Megaf | themill: I am, I want wheezy |
| 14:20.13 | themill | then why are you using the jessie installer? |
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| 14:22.48 | Megaf | Im not |
| 14:23.14 | themill | well the URLs you are using have "stable" in them and wheezy is not "stable" |
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| 14:23.41 | Megaf | wheezy is the stable of kfreebsd, isnt it? Since there is a jessie-kfreebsd |
| 14:24.05 | themill | no |
| 14:24.37 | Megaf | ok, you are right |
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| 14:25.13 | themill | «wget http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/stable-kfreebsd/Release -O- -q | grep Codename» |
| 14:26.26 | Megaf | trying http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-kfreebsd-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso now |
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| 14:27.04 | petn-randall | calculates 13+12 minutes and looks at the clock. |
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| 14:27.17 | Megaf | still here |
| 14:27.26 | Megaf | closed Inkscape and got + 6 min |
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| 14:44.54 | Kobaz | hey, so i have a sata cdrom that has no /dev entry for it... lsscsi shows: 2:0:0:0] cd/dvd hp DVDROM DH20N EB00 - |
| 14:45.31 | jelly | Kobaz: nothing matching in /dev/sr* /dev/scd* ? |
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| 14:52.53 | anddam | how do I enable H.264 in iceweasel? https://dl.dropbox.com/s/bnxhftqgfhyuu80/Screenshot%20-%20180515%20-%2016%3A51%3A22.png |
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| 14:53.08 | anddam | I found the FF bit to enable media source extension |
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| 14:55.33 | ChrisH | Kobaz: lshw -short |
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| 14:58.51 | CHICO01 | i'm enabling active directory but received the WBC_ERR_WINBIND_NOT_AVAILABLE when looking up domain groups . . any ideas? |
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| 15:01.42 | jordila | hi dear #debian community |
| 15:02.04 | jordila | " root@patagon01:/# ls |
| 15:02.05 | jordila | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:02.30 | dondelelcaro | jordila: that looks like filesystem corruption |
| 15:03.02 | jelly | jordila: what does "stat /" say? |
| 15:03.03 | jhutchins | jordila: shutdown -Fr now |
| 15:03.28 | jelly | jhutchins, dondelelcaro: don't panic. It might merely be a missing +x |
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| 15:04.32 | shay_shay | its missing +x for sure |
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| 15:04.37 | jordila | thanks dondelecaro |
| 15:04.42 | CHICO01 | root@EGOCT-LXAUD03:/home/administrator# wbinfo -g failed to call wbcListGroups: WBC_ERR_WINBIND_NOT_AVAILABLE Error looking up domain groups root@EGOCT-LXAUD03:/home/administrator# wbinfo -u Error looking up domain users root@EGOCT-LXAUD03:/home/administrator# |
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| 15:05.48 | jelly | jordila: but then, path traversal might not work... so make that command "/usr/bin/stat /" |
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| 15:07.01 | nzv | what could be the reason why my vnc-server sessions hosted on my VPS randomly die? |
| 15:07.03 | jelly | jordila: if there is actual courruption, output of /bin/dmesg might provide confirmation for that |
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| 15:07.19 | nzv | like after a few hours it just says the connection was closed |
| 15:07.35 | jordila | jelly , as per your suggestion ... http://piratepad.net/7MZSgbV8Di |
| 15:07.48 | dondelelcaro | jelly: could be |
| 15:07.54 | jelly | nzv: could be anything from insufficient resources on the server to network equipment (firewall) in the middle resetting idle tcp connections |
| 15:08.08 | dondelelcaro | jelly: though I wouldn't expect that if you were root |
| 15:08.36 | nzv | so I should file a ticket with the host then? the server has plenty of resources |
| 15:08.51 | anddam | this SO answer mentions ffmpeg package that I cannot find anymore in jessie http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/150755 was it removed at somepoint? |
| 15:09.10 | jelly | anddam: it never was in jessie I think |
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| 15:09.53 | themill | anddam: ffmpeg was never in jessie. That's a pretty old and out of date answer. ("squeeze") |
| 15:10.02 | anddam | yes, hence my question |
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| 15:10.30 | anddam | I was trying to install the two packages in order to solve the same issue in jessie |
| 15:10.35 | themill | anddam: btw that box is ticked here for me with iceweasel from mozilla.debian.net. I don't think I did anything to make that happen |
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| 15:10.56 | anddam | possibly some of the gstreamer packages like the next answer |
| 15:11.01 | ChrisH | jordila: run dmesg and show the output, not cat /bin/dmesg :) |
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| 15:11.10 | jordila | uuh... jelly, output of /bin/dmesg http://piratepad.net/7MZSgbV8Di |
| 15:11.12 | anddam | themill: I'm on XFCE jessie and it's disabled |
| 15:11.16 | fella | Just installed Jessie, but I'm not able to download any packages through apt |
| 15:11.21 | jordila | shows really weird things... |
| 15:11.23 | fella | apt-get update works fine |
| 15:11.33 | Kobaz | ChrisH: /0/3/0.0.0 disk DVDROM DH20N |
| 15:11.36 | themill | anddam: "xfce jessie" doesn't say anything about what version of iceweasel you're running |
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| 15:11.44 | jelly | jordila: _run_ /bin/dmesg, that's a command, don't cat it. |
| 15:11.48 | fella | It kept asking for my CD so I took that out of my /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:11.56 | Kobaz | ChrisH: everything else is showing normal... like: /0/2/0.1.0 /dev/sda disk 2TB WDC WD2002FAEX-0 |
| 15:12.07 | anddam | themill: whatever came with the XFCE install I did yesterday |
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| 15:12.18 | anddam | give me a moment for a numeric version |
| 15:12.22 | fella | Anyone? |
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| 15:12.32 | fella | It's probably really simple but I just don't know what I'm doing.... |
| 15:12.35 | anddam | themill: 31.7.0 |
| 15:12.40 | fella | Was working fine on my wheezy installation right afterward |
| 15:12.40 | themill | anddam: hence me suggesting mozilla.debian.net. |
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| 15:12.59 | fella | Do I need to add a new repo for Jessie? |
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| 15:13.10 | themill | dpkg: tell fella about jessie sources.list |
| 15:13.22 | themill | fella: check you've got those 3 entries in your sources.list |
| 15:13.43 | anddam | themill: updating now |
| 15:13.44 | jordila | jelly ChrisH , dmesg output here http://piratepad.net/7MZSgbV8Di thanks |
| 15:13.57 | fella | I |
| 15:14.16 | fella | I've got deb and deb src secuity.debian.org jessie updates main contrib |
| 15:14.18 | fella | Two entries |
| 15:14.32 | fella | I didn't add a mirror network when I installed |
| 15:14.36 | themill | fella: sounds like you need to add the others then |
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| 15:15.09 | fella | There are some commented on the bottom |
| 15:15.19 | fella | Just use those? |
| 15:15.40 | themill | fella: I have no idea what they would be. You need the lines dpkg gave you |
| 15:16.09 | nzv | lol KaT changed their domain from Tonga to Costa Rica |
| 15:16.14 | anddam | themill: can you pastebin your dpkg -l gstreamer\* | grep '^i' ? |
| 15:16.28 | jelly | jordila: nothing obvious in there, it's possible the corruption happened in the past (before last reboot) |
| 15:16.33 | Kobaz | anyone know how to fix this? I have a sata cdrom that has no /dev entry for it... lsscsi shows: 2:0:0:0] cd/dvd hp DVDROM DH20N EB00 - |
| 15:16.55 | jelly | jordila: Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x) Uid: ( 0/ root) Gid: ( 1001/ userftp) # that group ownership is rather unusual for / directory |
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| 15:17.18 | themill | anddam: sure -- if that helps http://paste.debian.net/179621/ |
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| 15:17.52 | jelly | jordila: check whether your backups are valid, and do a fsck, possibly prepare mentally for a reinstall and restore from backup :-) |
| 15:17.52 | anddam | I added jessie-backports as per ssb factoid, I have also i386 in multiarch. When I update I see "Err http://httpredir.debian.org jessie-backports/main i386 Packages" is this expected? |
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| 15:18.05 | anddam | like jessie-backports are single arch or so? |
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| 15:18.13 | anddam | themill: thanks |
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| 15:19.06 | ws2k3 | where can i find the netinstall for wheezy? |
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| 15:19.34 | ws2k3 | cause the current net install provides me jessie |
| 15:19.37 | nkuttler | !tell ws2k3 about ig |
| 15:19.43 | nkuttler | ws2k3: replace jessie with wheezy |
| 15:19.57 | nkuttler | err |
| 15:20.00 | nkuttler | !tell ws2k3 about di |
| 15:20.03 | nkuttler | sorry, that one |
| 15:20.14 | anddam | themill: my list is a little shorter but I don't think it matters https://gist.github.com/anddam/94b83bdea19b9ed498ca |
| 15:20.18 | anddam | the plugins are there |
| 15:21.05 | anddam | themill: why after adding mozilla.debian.net I see "The following packages have been kept back:" for iceweasel packages? |
| 15:21.14 | anddam | I mean on upgrade |
| 15:21.19 | anddam | what's keeping them back? |
| 15:21.24 | themill | use aptitude |
| 15:21.46 | ChrisH | jordila: check 'grep " / " /proc/mounts' the line with ext in, should have rw at the beginning. just to be sure. And what is that gandi stuff used for? Is that only the VPS provider or did they made modifications to the packages? |
| 15:21.49 | ws2k3 | nkuttler this tells me regarding jessie but i want the installer for wheezy? |
| 15:21.58 | anddam | what about the jessie-backports i386 issue? |
| 15:21.58 | nkuttler | ws2k3: replace jessie with wheezy |
| 15:22.10 | nkuttler | ws2k3: and see the second msg the bot sent |
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| 15:24.07 | ws2k3 | nkuttler and what is with deal with debian LTS for how long is wheezy still supported |
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| 15:25.32 | anddam | themill: now I have H.264 enabled but I lost the bottom-right "MSE & WebM VP9" support |
| 15:25.34 | anddam | yay |
| 15:25.51 | GPenguin | ws2k3: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
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| 15:26.30 | anddam | themill: nvm, there's a setting in ff for that |
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| 15:29.45 | ws2k3 | thanks |
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| 15:33.07 | jordila | ChrisH , i'll let you know later on... i'm working with them now... thanks ! ( Gandi is the Hosting provider... they are quite experts in Debian, widely used in their infraestructure ) |
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| 15:34.22 | dTal | oh good, I just bought a Gandi domain |
| 15:34.54 | dTal | almost a pity I'll be using it with FreeBSD :p |
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| 15:35.28 | nzv | is there a way in linux to execute more than 1 command by only typing 1 line? |
| 15:35.37 | DammitJim | what property should I set on a folder so that if I copy a file using scp with user1, that the user privileges change to a default (user2) ? |
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| 15:36.07 | bstarek | nzv, easier to write a script |
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| 15:36.21 | dTal | nzv: it's a shell thing, not a Linux thing, but in bash and similar you can use & or && - one executes simultaneously, the other sequentially |
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| 15:36.36 | nzv | oh cool thanks dTal |
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| 15:38.56 | flufmnstr | nzv && is probably what you want. but there are more options for stringing together commands outlined here http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4510640/command-line-what-is-the-purpose-of |
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| 15:39.32 | nzv | hmm I just executed 'su vnc && vncserver -kill :1' |
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| 15:39.43 | nzv | but it didn't actually execute the vncserve kill command o_O |
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| 15:39.57 | dTal | oh boy someone's about to learn about subshells |
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| 15:40.10 | dTal | disgonebgud.gif |
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| 15:40.38 | nzv | does it not work when switching users with it? |
| 15:41.05 | dTal | nzv: no, because your kill command is executed by the same shell as the su command |
| 15:41.13 | dTal | i.e. not with elevated privileges |
| 15:41.25 | dTal | for that you want the -c option of su |
| 15:41.43 | nzv | ah ok, makes sense thanks |
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| 15:42.29 | anddam | in virt-manager I'm seeing a "Could not build physical interface list via libvirt: xmlParseDoc failed" error near the NIC, I couldn't find a specific match for this error on web. I followed the KVM Debian's wiki page |
| 15:42.44 | anddam | is it possible that my user is lacking some permissions and therefore isn't able to create the interface lsit? |
| 15:42.46 | anddam | list* |
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| 15:50.43 | teraflop | probably, do you have bridge utils installed? |
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| 15:58.10 | yuesha | maybe |
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| 16:19.18 | littlebit | hi people, I have an archive of pictures in various folders. The filenames of those pictures have the same boring name like Picture001 etc... and I would like to rename those pictures where I replace 'Pictures' with the folder name of which the file is located in. how can i do that in the terminal in the most efficient way? |
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| 16:28.05 | peterrooney | littlebit: rename (part of the perl package) |
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| 16:39.05 | peterrooney | little-tommy: example, and DON'T use this example literally, for i in * ; do rename -n 's#([a-z0-9]*)/Picture#$1/$1#' $i/* ; done |
| 16:39.37 | peterrooney | I'm very glad that rename has a dry-run option. |
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| 16:51.54 | jelly | is there a ready way to automatically keep NPAPI non-free flash plugin up to date on Debian? |
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| 16:52.57 | jelly | (I don't want to set up some ad-hoc polling cron job with update-flashplugin-nonfree if there's a better solution) |
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| 16:55.45 | Megaf | themill: Thanks, Using the right version helps |
| 16:56.44 | Megaf | Fjorgynn: kFreeBSD is a version of Debian that doesnt uses Linux, it runs on the FreeBSD kernel |
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| 16:56.58 | Megaf | so you get the whole Debian userland on top of FreeBSD |
| 16:57.22 | Fjorgynn | aha |
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| 17:15.56 | Mava | aloha guys, just hit quite an "intresting" phenomenom. wd black 2tb disk, after 3 years of continous running: cut and paste from dmesg: http://pastebin.com/Z2yFVtqu |
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| 17:17.05 | Mava | found this problem after installing 8 to my server. damn it was slowish. but tell me: is it just me who thinks wd disks have started to be quite unrealiable during past 5 years |
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| 17:18.56 | jelly | Mava: bad sectors aren't really that interesting :-| |
| 17:20.18 | jelly | Mava: you won't find any device vendor without a bad batch or bad series of disks. If you care about data, make backups and verify them. If you care about downtime, use raid. |
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| 17:22.11 | jelly | Mava: and when putting disks in a raid, try hard to avoid having member from same batch (or even same model and vendor) |
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| 17:28.36 | Night-Shade | Mava: I run a full 4 pass badblocks on all disks before they go into RAID |
| 17:28.56 | Night-Shade | lets you catch bad batches or poor handling before it bites you |
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| 17:31.31 | Mava | Night-Shade: not a bad idea |
| 17:31.45 | Mava | jelly: though i was expecting new disks with full warranty to last that long |
| 17:31.54 | Mava | got 9x2tb disks in raid6 |
| 17:32.31 | Mava | first used wd green as disks since they were cheaper but they were terrible, couldn't do anything else than break |
| 17:32.45 | Mava | but these black disk seemed to be pretty nice though. |
| 17:33.04 | jelly | I'm trying my luck with wd red and samsung |
| 17:33.08 | Mava | until now. so yes - next i'll go for having system with different disks from different vendors |
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| 17:33.19 | preyalone | what's the last debian version to be built with libc5? |
| 17:33.30 | Mava | jelly: samsung will very likely be the next direction for me |
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| 17:34.23 | jelly | preyalone: slink (2.1) had both libc5 for compatibility and libc6, so it'd've been something before that |
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| 17:34.36 | Mava | but hey.. wd re 250Gb disks: 9 Power_On_Hours 72774 |
| 17:34.40 | preyalone | jelly: thanks! |
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| 17:35.27 | jelly | preyalone: you could fetch Packages files from various early releases at archive.debian.org and find out yourself |
| 17:35.46 | DammitJim | I'm in Central Florida... when I check the date, it currently says EDT |
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| 17:35.51 | DammitJim | if it was December, would it say EST? |
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| 17:36.00 | DammitJim | or EDT? (I'm assuming EST) |
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| 17:36.35 | amcorreia | anyone get 2 instances of memcache running on Debian 8? |
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| 17:37.05 | jelly | preyalone: eg. http://archive.debian.org/debian/dists/Debian-2.0/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz and 1.3 and 1.2 and 2.1 |
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| 17:40.20 | preyalone | do i need both slink cd's for a c compiler setup, or just the first cd? http://mirror.debianforum.de/debian-iso-archive/slink/i386/ |
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| 17:43.33 | jelly | preyalone: ah, the times when the whole release could fit on TWO cd images. |
| 17:44.06 | preyalone | can't find a dvd with both cd's combined... i wonder if slink didn't have dvd support |
| 17:44.07 | dvs | TWO? That's one too many! |
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| 17:44.33 | preyalone | but the first cd should be fine, eh? and i can prolly cobble a mirror configuration to download extra packages |
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| 18:06.02 | telmac | anyone online who can help with opengl problems |
| 18:06.11 | asturel | dTal sure :D |
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| 18:06.22 | jelly | telmac: maybe, just ask your question and see what happens |
| 18:06.24 | jelly | !ask |
| 18:06.24 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:06.24 | telmac | dreamon: |
| 18:06.28 | telmac | fuck |
| 18:06.45 | telmac | jelly: eh, sometimes I'll ask and no one even replies |
| 18:06.52 | telmac | anyway I recently installed an AMD gpu |
| 18:06.52 | dreamon | telmac, I already did today :) |
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| 18:07.11 | telmac | it's working fine but opengl is ... absent? |
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| 18:07.57 | Speed` | Is there any way of specifying a 'java-runtime' package as a dependency like on arch when packaging on debian? |
| 18:08.03 | jelly | telmac: what do "glxinfo" "xdriinfo" say? |
| 18:08.07 | jelly | and. |
| 18:08.14 | dTal | asturel: sorry my tab complete was weird |
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| 18:09.17 | jelly | ,depends eclipse-jdt |
| 18:09.18 | judd | Package eclipse-jdt in jessie/amd64 -- depends: default-jre | java5-runtime | java6-runtime, eclipse-platform (>= 3.8.1-7), junit (>= 3.8.2-4), junit4 (>= 4.10-2), libhamcrest-java (>= 1.1-8~). |
| 18:09.29 | jelly | Speed`: something like that first dep ^^ |
| 18:09.33 | cybrNaut | Windows has mechanism to associate file extensions/types with tools. Does debian have something similar? |
| 18:09.40 | Speed` | ooh thanks :) |
| 18:09.41 | telmac | name of display: :0 |
| 18:09.41 | telmac | Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig |
| 18:09.52 | telmac | Screen 0: r600 |
| 18:09.58 | cybrNaut | someone sent me a damn *.docx file |
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| 18:10.13 | telmac | cybrNaut: within what? |
| 18:10.21 | cybrNaut | i would like to know what all installed tools can work with it |
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| 18:10.37 | jelly | telmac: huh, so DRI is there but there's no matching libgl1, maybe. Is libgl1-mesa-dri installed? |
| 18:10.55 | cybrNaut | telmac: not sue what you mean. I received the file, and would like to know what tools handle it |
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| 18:12.03 | telmac | jelly: how do I search within installed packages? |
| 18:12.10 | cybrNaut | i think the answer is /no/ |
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| 18:12.39 | cybrNaut | i can do "man -k docx", which comes back with "docx: nothing appropriate." |
| 18:12.43 | jelly | telmac: dpkg -S path ? |
| 18:12.48 | cybrNaut | (even though I have "tea" installed) |
| 18:13.26 | telmac | if tea can edit it, just use that? |
| 18:13.28 | jelly | telmac: oh, you meant "is this package installed"... dpkg -s packagename |
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| 18:13.57 | jelly | telmac: or stupider, dpkg -l packagename or even dpkg -l | grep packagenamesubstring |
| 18:14.16 | telmac | jelly: it is installed |
| 18:14.21 | telmac | yeah I just grepped for it from -S |
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| 18:18.59 | pirithous | cybrNaut: look @ mimetype |
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| 18:19.29 | swiftynb | anyone have a download link for debain 7.0? |
| 18:19.35 | swiftynb | i can not find it on their website |
| 18:19.57 | cybrNaut | pirithous: thanks. someone just pointed me to xdg-mime and xdg-open. |
| 18:20.38 | zir0faive | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 18:20.52 | zir0faive | swiftynb: you should find happiness there |
| 18:20.54 | pirithous | sure |
| 18:21.05 | teraflop | xdg-mime query default docx i suppose |
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| 18:23.54 | cybrNaut | "xdg-mime query filetype foo.docx" gave the type. then "xdg-open foo.docx" opened it with a default tool |
| 18:24.00 | telmac | jelly: ...? |
| 18:24.11 | cybrNaut | ideally I would like to list all tools, not just launch in a default tool |
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| 18:24.38 | atomtm | Hello ! I am interested in installing an antivirus for debian 8 . What would you recommend? |
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| 18:24.59 | jelly | telmac: sorry, busy at the moment |
| 18:25.03 | dTal | atomtm: rm ~/.wine/ |
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| 18:25.20 | teraflop | List what tools open a docx using xdg( |
| 18:25.23 | teraflop | ( |
| 18:25.28 | teraflop | Ouch srry |
| 18:25.42 | atomtm | dTal? |
| 18:25.50 | telmac | s/~\/.wine\//\/bin |
| 18:25.53 | jelly | telmac: in the meantime, pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log and output of "apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri; apt-cache policy" |
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| 18:27.05 | dTal | atomtm: it was a joke see because only Windows has viruses and Wine runs windows programs and stores its data in ~/.wine/ |
| 18:27.15 | swiftynb | anyone know a good workaround for giblc 2.14? i have giblc 2.13 on debain 7.8 on a vps |
| 18:27.23 | atomtm | ok |
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| 18:27.24 | atomtm | :) |
| 18:27.36 | swiftynb | built the binaries myself on ubuntu and now am really sad they dont work on debain XD |
| 18:27.39 | atomtm | dTal, are you sure there are no viruses on linux ? |
| 18:27.59 | atomtm | dTal, what about network worms ? |
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| 18:28.19 | dTal | there are worms that propagate over SSH but the best defence in that case is good security |
| 18:28.25 | atomtm | dTal, I ve read in several posts that no OS is immune to viruses , so I would like your opinion |
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| 18:28.35 | cybrNaut | atomtm: there was a virus on linux once. It came with a built-in uninstall feature |
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| 18:28.47 | atomtm | cybrNaut, hahah |
| 18:28.49 | atomtm | nice |
| 18:29.09 | cybrNaut | atomtm: afaik, there have been no serious viruses on linux. but that's a bad reason to not do security |
| 18:29.13 | telmac | http://pastebin.com/2mUYxkae |
| 18:29.18 | telmac | http://telmac.pw/Xorg.0.log |
| 18:29.18 | dTal | I've never been infected from just browsing |
| 18:29.26 | anddam | teraflop: was that bridge utils line for me? |
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| 18:30.13 | atomtm | I actually connected my fresh debian 8 box to a Windows 8 machine ( suspicious to infection) . My box froze . I had to power cycle the machine to get a working environment again |
| 18:30.32 | atomtm | So this got me thinking |
| 18:30.39 | teraflop | anddam: yep |
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| 18:31.29 | cybrNaut | it would be useful to have an AV tool on linux |
| 18:31.45 | cybrNaut | that way you could attach an infected windows drive, and have linux do the cleanup |
| 18:32.31 | atomtm | cybrNaut, is there any AV you would recommend? |
| 18:32.53 | cybrNaut | atomtm: i'm talking theory. I don't have a recommendation |
| 18:33.05 | atomtm | cybrNaut, ok |
| 18:33.15 | atomtm | I ve read that avast is promising |
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| 18:33.40 | telmac | does avast have a *nix version???? |
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| 18:34.11 | atomtm | and btw what would be the chances of getting my box infecting , by connecting it to infected Windows system via UTP |
| 18:34.13 | atomtm | ? |
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| 18:34.32 | atomtm | telmac, I have not found it yet . But yes there is one I think |
| 18:34.48 | cybrNaut | "aptitude search anti-virus" comes up empty.. that's a bit cavalier of Debian |
| 18:34.51 | telmac | atomtm: I don't think that's really possible |
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| 18:35.05 | telmac | or rather, fantastically unlikely |
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| 18:35.24 | anddam | teraflop: ah sorry, didn't catch since it wasn't highlighted and then left |
| 18:35.36 | anddam | teraflop: let me check since I don't eve know what it is |
| 18:35.43 | telmac | who would write a virus to target some really obscure insecurity in our implementation of IP? |
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| 18:36.24 | atomtm | dunno ! Just thinking . Ok can I debug the error then to find out what caused my freeze? |
| 18:36.46 | teraflop | telmac: http://free.avg.com/eu-en/129024 ? |
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| 18:37.08 | cybrNaut | telmac: a good AV tool would look for all signatures, not just the ones on the platform of the tool itself |
| 18:37.33 | teraflop | I see linux and freebsd there ... |
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| 18:37.56 | atomtm | http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/free-linux-antivirus-programs/ |
| 18:37.57 | cybrNaut | if I were in the business of maintaining Winblows machines, I would opt to use linux as a tool to fix windows |
| 18:38.14 | telmac | I'm really surprised this exists, teraflop |
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| 18:38.23 | anddam | teraflop: yes I have bridge-utils |
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| 18:39.03 | anddam | teraflop: checking its doc for some info about special groups or so |
| 18:39.05 | cybrNaut | "These four programs all offer Linux users a way to scan for Windows viruses, and the occasional Linux one as well." |
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| 18:39.09 | cybrNaut | just as i would expect |
| 18:39.40 | atomtm | dont think avast exists anymore |
| 18:40.10 | telmac | well that makes sense I guess |
| 18:40.17 | teraflop | anddam: then what kinf of virt-manager errors do you get? insufficient permission error are the most common |
| 18:40.21 | teraflop | kind* |
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| 18:40.52 | anddam | teraflop: exactly that line I wrote, near the NIC dropdown menu in the vm settings |
| 18:41.10 | cybrNaut | atomtm: i suggest looking for a Live linux distro that has one of those AV tools. A live distro makes more sense for a variety of reasons |
| 18:41.14 | anddam | teraflop: notice that the iface _works_, it's just the setting page that cannot show some NICs list |
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| 18:41.34 | teraflop | anddam: can you repaste the error I barely can do scroll in this silly phone |
| 18:41.45 | anddam | sure, let me do the scroll ;-) |
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| 18:42.03 | anddam | "Could not build physical interface list via libvirt: xmlParseDoc failed" |
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| 18:42.13 | teraflop | hmm |
| 18:42.18 | anddam | this is a tooltip that I get on a warning icon near the dropdown menu |
| 18:42.21 | anddam | screenshot coming |
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| 18:44.08 | cybrNaut | in fact, it *only* makes sense to run AV on linux. Running AV on an infected machine means the malware can attack the AV tool itself. |
| 18:44.25 | cybrNaut | and even running the AV tool on a clean Windows machine risks the infection spreading |
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| 18:45.31 | teraflop | anddam: btw what version is the virt-manager package? |
| 18:45.36 | atomtm | cybrNaut, ok so I have to find a good one ! |
| 18:45.38 | atomtm | :) |
| 18:45.56 | anddam | teraflop: https://dl.dropbox.com/s/h9b07yeuze888pl/Screenshot%20-%20180515%20-%2020%3A43%3A00.jpg |
| 18:46.12 | anddam | 1.0.1-5 |
| 18:46.24 | anddam | there's actually a leading 1: that I'm not sure how to interpret |
| 18:46.31 | anddam | 1:1.0.1-5 in dpkg -l |
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| 18:47.02 | teraflop | anddam: theres a bug about that but from a lower version |
| 18:47.16 | cybrNaut | atomtm: there are several security-centric live distros.. i would focus on those |
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| 18:47.27 | anddam | reference? I checked BTS and didn't find it |
| 18:47.31 | anddam | teraflop: ^ |
| 18:47.39 | teraflop | anddam: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=764880 |
| 18:47.40 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/764880 in virt-manager (closed): «virt-manager: gui breaks on different operations with VNC/SPICE servers»; severity: important; opened: 2014-10-11; last modified: 2014-11-10. |
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| 18:48.19 | teraflop | anddam: because it's closed I suppose |
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| 18:48.31 | Amun_Ra | anddam: the number before the colon is the epoch number |
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| 18:48.53 | teraflop | anddam: do you have a KVM group in /etc/group? |
| 18:49.03 | anddam | Amun_Ra: how's the epoch used in debian? |
| 18:49.19 | anddam | teraflop: I do, my user is in it |
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| 18:50.23 | teraflop | anddam: and which are the user and group values in /etc/libvirt/qemu.conf? |
| 18:50.29 | ryn | now that jessie is out... is an in-place upgrade from wheezy the best way to update? |
| 18:50.40 | ryn | just editing sources.list? |
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| 18:51.42 | atomtm | cybrNaut, I using Debian 8 right now . Afaik this is well known because of its security and its stability |
| 18:51.44 | anddam | teraflop: it's completely commented out, no custom config at all, only default values |
| 18:52.09 | anddam | and no qemu.conf man page |
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| 18:52.31 | teraflop | anddam: please try #user commented out and set group to group="kvm" and restart the service |
| 18:52.43 | anddam | teraflop: only the user, not also group=kvm? |
| 18:53.01 | teraflop | yes only group uncommented |
| 18:53.13 | anddam | ah I misread |
| 18:53.24 | anddam | comment user assignment, uncomment group one |
| 18:53.31 | teraflop | so #user ... group="kvm" |
| 18:53.35 | anddam | user is already commentd tho' |
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| 18:54.14 | anddam | I see qemu-system-x86.service among units |
| 18:54.23 | anddam | and another service for the running vm |
| 18:54.27 | anddam | that I'm going to shutdown |
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| 18:55.14 | cybrNaut | atomtm: it's stable, and probably secure it terms of minimal vulnerabilities, but it's not necessarily rich in security tools |
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| 18:55.32 | cybrNaut | atomtm: as we can see by the lack of AV tool |
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| 18:55.35 | teraflop | anddam: well just for clarify I meant commented out as you put # and uncommented without the #, excuse my crappy english |
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| 18:55.55 | anddam | teraflop: no it was clear |
| 18:55.58 | anddam | I read it wrong |
| 18:56.12 | anddam | an appropriate verb would be reload for systemctl |
| 18:56.14 | anddam | I guess |
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| 18:56.37 | teraflop | yes you need to restart the service |
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| 18:58.13 | atomtm | cybrNaut, I will find a AV and install it |
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| 18:58.42 | atomtm | cybrNaut, can you explain why debian wouldn't be infected by a WIndows machine |
| 18:58.44 | atomtm | ? |
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| 18:59.33 | atomtm | cybrNaut, can something be transferred and be run on a dual boot machine ( like mine ) . That is transfer infection and run it on windows |
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| 19:00.41 | cybrNaut | atomtm: it *is* possible for a virus to attack both windows and linux, it's just unlikely because the financial motivation is not there to write a linux virus, and i think it's unlikely that a virus attacks both on accident |
| 19:00.51 | anddam | teraflop: same |
| 19:02.18 | cybrNaut | atomtm: but b/c the possibility is there, I would not subject a debian box to it if it's used for other purposes. Ideally a live CD is a clean way to do it |
| 19:02.28 | atomtm | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:02.36 | teraflop | anddam: hmmm, i saw some issues about a mes parsing some file names (iso or whatever having spaces) and then the xml of the machine gets corrupted, i do not have more Ideas |
| 19:02.47 | teraflop | s/mes/mess |
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| 19:03.52 | cybrNaut | atomtm: i see nothing stopping a linux machine from being a carrier of Windows viruses. |
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| 19:04.10 | atomtm | cybrNaut, yes I guess its too late now because this Windows machine is on the network , which I connected to . So I guess I should first check for an antivirus |
| 19:04.35 | cybrNaut | atomtm: e.g. some viruses install themselves on the /firmware/ of a drive |
| 19:04.41 | teraflop | lol after updating an openvz vps to jessie I realized that the host does not has the latest kernel so the jessie systemd version does not work ^^ |
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| 19:05.33 | anddam | teraflop: what's that list, how can I access the NIC info vrom virsh? |
| 19:05.50 | kichuku | Hello guys I have a Debian 7 machine. I am trying to install a particular software. I am having problems installing iniparser, which is a dependency. I am using instructions from http://www.networking-forums.com/index.php?topic=47.0 |
| 19:05.52 | atomtm | cybrNaut, thats pretty nasty I guess |
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| 19:06.28 | atomtm | cybrNaut, how can a linux machine be a carrier ? |
| 19:06.33 | cybrNaut | atomtm: the disciplined answer from any trained security admin is to always AV scan all devices, be it Windows or linux |
| 19:06.35 | kichuku | Please ctrl+f and see point number #15 in the above link |
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| 19:07.30 | cybrNaut | atomtm: the virus can get installed on the firmware of a hard drive. It can be instantly active when the drive boots, and then infect other drives. |
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| 19:08.18 | atomtm | cybrNaut, can you do this over the network or would this be too risky? |
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| 19:09.13 | anddam | teraflop: virsh net-list --al |
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| 19:09.27 | anddam | in fact I get an empty list |
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| 19:09.33 | kichuku | Hello guys I have a Debian 7 machine. I am trying to install a particular software. I am having problems installing iniparser, which is a dependency. I am using instructions from http://www.networking-forums.com/index.php?topic=47.0 . Please see point no "#15.a. Get and install iniparser" in this link. What might be going wrong? |
| 19:09.35 | teraflop | atomtm: I was talking about the xml of the machine being corrupted, virsh has a bunch of options as in e.g virsh net-list --all |
| 19:09.38 | benedikt | does anyone know if hdup will (gpg) encrypt the files locally or on the remote end |
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| 19:09.56 | teraflop | anddam: use sudo virsh ... |
| 19:10.01 | benedikt | (alternatively, can anyone recomend an encrypted backup system (preferrably using gpg) that isn |
| 19:10.07 | benedikt | 't as slow as duplicity) |
| 19:10.27 | cybrNaut | atomtm: not sure. but since you know your drive is infected, you should isolate it and keep it offline. Do everything to reduce contamination |
| 19:10.44 | anddam | teraflop: in that case I get the default entry, it's definitely a matter of permissions somewhere |
| 19:10.45 | teraflop | srry atomtm i meant anddam |
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| 19:10.53 | atomtm | teraflop, yes ofc |
| 19:10.57 | atomtm | np |
| 19:11.01 | anddam | teraflop: anyway I'm afk for dinner |
| 19:11.06 | anddam | teraflop: thanks for the info |
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| 19:11.30 | teraflop | anddam: no clue, id just look at the xml of the machine itself for weird things |
| 19:11.41 | teraflop | anddam: if the xml got created ... |
| 19:11.44 | atomtm | cybrNaut, actually I am not 100% sure that this machine is infected |
| 19:11.45 | anddam | teraflop: it's vm independent |
| 19:11.56 | cybrNaut | benedikt: i cannot imagine anything being faster than duplicity. Duplicity keeps an index to ensure it only transfers what's necessary, and it also uses rsync to do compression over the uplink |
| 19:11.58 | atomtm | cybrNaut, but yes I have my doubts |
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| 19:12.06 | anddam | teraflop: because I noticed that on another one, then created "openbsd" and it's still there |
| 19:12.09 | teraflop | atomtm: /etc/libvirt/qemu/* |
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| 19:12.13 | teraflop | aww |
| 19:12.16 | teraflop | srry |
| 19:12.16 | atomtm | hahha |
| 19:12.17 | atomtm | np |
| 19:12.24 | benedikt | cybrNaut: it has taken 24h to backup 270M (of 13G) so far.. wouldn |
| 19:12.27 | benedikt | t call that fast |
| 19:12.29 | teraflop | anddam: /etc/libvirt/qemu/* |
| 19:12.47 | benedikt | it's using 100% cpu on one core. |
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| 19:12.54 | cybrNaut | benedikt: depends on the connection. over analog dial-up, that's screaming fast |
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| 19:13.17 | benedikt | cybrNaut: the slower end is on 100 mbit |
| 19:13.39 | benedikt | its not a network speed issue. as i said, it's using 100% cpu locally. |
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| 19:13.51 | teraflop | anddam: for the sake of your sanity have you tried with qemu itself directly from console? |
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| 19:14.45 | benedikt | cybrNaut: googling only turns up duplicity showing this behaviour when backing up huge files (20 |
| 19:14.49 | teraflop | anddam: I do that way when I need EFI/UEFI/coreboot |
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| 19:15.40 | cybrNaut | benedikt: well i'm surprised it's performing so poorly. if your data is already compressed, you should disable rsync compression. other than that, i'm at a loss |
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| 19:16.44 | cybrNaut | err.. may not be rsync compression, but compression after taring but before encrypting |
| 19:16.55 | cybrNaut | anyway, i don't have the answer |
| 19:16.55 | benedikt | cybrNaut: i |
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| 19:17.36 | Owner_ | how can i remove systemd? |
| 19:17.43 | benedikt | cybrNaut: i'm also surprised, but i've spent 3 days on this and getting tired. duplicity seems to be the standard tool these days though. |
| 19:17.57 | teraflop | Owner_: google harder it's easy to find |
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| 19:18.09 | Owner_ | ok |
| 19:18.32 | benedikt | how could i figure out what duplicity is spending time and cpu on |
| 19:19.54 | cybrNaut | benedikt: no idea, unless you can see it spawning child processes |
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| 19:20.22 | cybrNaut | benedikt: actually, you could use valgrind to find out |
| 19:20.32 | buildcomplete | I am about to update from whezy to jessie, but I ran out of space on '/'... now I have claimed about 600m free, but the update process is unsurprisingly stopped with an error... is it over? |
| 19:20.35 | benedikt | cybrNaut: isnt duplicity written in python |
| 19:20.51 | cybrNaut | ah, then valgrind won't work |
| 19:21.17 | cybrNaut | you'd have to ask a python developer |
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| 19:21.59 | Owner_ | sweet, thanks teraflop |
| 19:22.04 | cybrNaut | benedikt: you could also run lsof on the duplicity process id |
| 19:22.19 | cybrNaut | benedikt: lsof will tell you what files it's attached to, which can give clues |
| 19:22.56 | buildcomplete | i had 3GB free when starting, and that command that was in the documentation only claimed 2GB would ne used %¤#" |
| 19:23.08 | teraflop | Owner_: it's your choice, do not blame me if something weird happens |
| 19:23.21 | Owner_ | weird things were already happening |
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| 19:24.13 | Owner_ | like apt-get erroring out while installing nginx because apache was running |
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| 19:27.35 | BuFF | hi, i'm using openbox and after upgrade (wheezy => jessie) i got all my menu's in menu bar like this http://postimg.org/image/68ettbtx7/full/ |
| 19:27.58 | BuFF | any ideas how to get rid off these "frames" in menu bar? |
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| 19:28.47 | BuFF | i tried other themes but the result is the same |
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| 19:34.31 | moozzz | hi! I have a trouble with my lightwm. Two days ago I installed dwm (additionally to my fluxbox). It works just nice. However, the small icon in the upper right corner which allowed me to switch between window managers has disappeared. The man page of lightwm says there must be entries in /usr/share/xsessions for lightwm to show the icon, but I have all these entries, both dwm.desktop and fluxbox.desktop. Does |
| 19:34.32 | moozzz | anyone know what's happened? |
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| 19:38.17 | awal1 | BuFF: which global theme are you using for openbox and which one for windows decoration (maybe you choose hat with obconf)? |
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| 19:39.52 | atomtm | guys is there a way I can send my local time (i.e. time + time zone + DST) with ntp ? |
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| 19:40.21 | Juslintek | Hi how can I do this on Debian? http://help.directadmin.com/item.php?id=380 |
| 19:40.50 | atomtm | I have tried to modify /etc/ntp.conf with : server 127.127.1.0 and fudge 127.127.1.0 stratum 10 but this sends UTC time without the timezones and DST |
| 19:41.28 | BuFF | awal1: theme is waldorf, not sure what you ment by saying (maybe you choose hat with obconf) |
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| 19:41.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | Juslintek: it's unclear what that page is describing. |
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| 19:42.11 | awal1 | BuFF: are you with Crunchbang? |
| 19:42.16 | Juslintek | automation of brutforce attacking ips blocking |
| 19:42.23 | atomtm | is there any workaround ? |
| 19:42.26 | BuFF | awal1: yes, i am |
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| 19:42.54 | Juslintek | bruteforce attackers are parsed from logs |
| 19:43.12 | awal1 | BuFF: Crunchbang is no longuer supported by it's upstream, it's dead. check the crunch website |
| 19:43.24 | awal1 | !Crunchbang |
| 19:43.24 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 19:43.25 | NoImNotNineVolt | isn't that what fail2ban does? |
| 19:43.31 | NoImNotNineVolt | why not just run fail2ban instead? |
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| 19:45.38 | awal1 | BuFF: you may just want to do a minimal debian install and then install Openbox and configure it as you want. you can achive what is done in the ex-crunchbang or maybe better. Also look at debian Lxde DE |
| 19:45.46 | BuFF | awal1: well i know that... but that has nothing to do with my question imho unless something went bad with upgrade |
| 19:46.14 | BuFF | bu that would be weird |
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| 19:48.15 | thedudez0r | is there something like arch-chroot for debian? |
| 19:48.36 | thedudez0r | that would take care of the binding and stuff |
| 19:50.35 | SynrGy | i'm sure it's trivial |
| 19:50.59 | acz32 | BuFF: have you tried changing themes in lxappearance? |
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| 19:51.19 | acz32 | also, do you have a theme engine installed? |
| 19:51.42 | mtn | thedudez0r: the installer has an expert mode, where you choose rescue, which does what you want. |
| 19:52.45 | BuFF | acz32: i've tried changing them through settings->openbox->gui config tool |
| 19:53.05 | BuFF | i'm not sure what lxappearance is |
| 19:53.37 | mns | what do I use to reconfigure my xorg.conf settings ? |
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| 19:55.14 | teraflop | mns: why do you have a xorg.conf? If I may ask |
| 19:55.30 | BuFF | acz32: is it necessary to rebootafter i made a change in lxappearance ? |
| 19:55.36 | acz32 | BuFF: no |
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| 19:56.13 | mns | teraflop: because I'm running X11 ? not sure I understand the question. |
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| 19:57.00 | teraflop | mns: most of the people do not need one. That's why I ask |
| 19:57.14 | acz32 | BuFF: you have packages installed from crunchbang repos, so doing an upgrade to debian 8 means you have some weird package versions which may not be compatible |
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| 19:57.59 | mns | teraflop: oh we dont ? I know this got installed when I initially installed xorg ages ago. back in 2009. |
| 19:59.08 | teraflop | mns: what can I say? .... Apart of ^ |
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| 20:00.44 | mns | teraflop: ok thanks. :) |
| 20:01.51 | thedudez0r | mtn: not an option as it is a vm, and too much work to get there just to save some commands |
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| 20:05.17 | anddam | teraflop: still there? |
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| 20:05.46 | teraflop | More or less heh |
| 20:06.05 | anddam | is there a libvirt-specific channel? |
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| 20:06.13 | anddam | it's not considered in topic in #kvm |
| 20:06.21 | teraflop | No idea anddam |
| 20:06.34 | anddam | teraflop: do you know where the net-list is stored? |
| 20:06.44 | anddam | I see brctl requires superuser permissions |
| 20:07.08 | anddam | oh actually not, it's just in sbin |
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| 20:07.17 | anddam | but brctl show works just fine as my user |
| 20:07.24 | teraflop | anddam: have you take a look at the XML of the machine is failing? |
| 20:07.30 | anddam | (my user is in kvm and libvirt group) |
| 20:07.38 | anddam | teraflop: I don't know how to look at it |
| 20:07.59 | anddam | I just infer there's a XML describing the vm from what you said |
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| 20:08.29 | teraflop | Just look at the XML for suspicious things after the virt iface deffinition |
| 20:08.53 | teraflop | It does complain about the XML itself |
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| 20:09.12 | swiftynb | im reading this but cant figure out what i need to add to my sources.list to install it https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/python-twisted |
| 20:09.30 | anddam | teraflop: no I mean where's the XML |
| 20:09.33 | swiftynb | can anyone tell me? |
| 20:10.05 | anddam | teraflop: who complains about the XML itself? |
| 20:10.10 | swiftynb | pretty please |
| 20:10.20 | anddam | teraflop: also from what you say it seems the XML is a log file |
| 20:10.20 | Joshua133 | its in debian testing |
| 20:10.36 | teraflop | /etc/libvirt/qemu I believe I can't take a look right now |
| 20:10.49 | anddam | teraflop: I figure that warning I get is because the net-list has an empty return value, therefore the ParseDoc() function fails |
| 20:10.53 | teraflop | anddam: the message you get |
| 20:11.04 | swiftynb | so deb ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 20:11.14 | Joshua133 | http://paste.debian.net/179781/ |
| 20:11.15 | anddam | swiftynb: what system are you on? |
| 20:11.23 | swiftynb | debain wheezy |
| 20:11.27 | Joshua133 | are you on stable or testing |
| 20:11.36 | swiftynb | i think stable |
| 20:11.36 | Joshua133 | ah ok |
| 20:11.49 | Joshua133 | yes stable cant remember if its old stable or not |
| 20:11.52 | swiftynb | stable is 7.0-7.8 right? |
| 20:11.53 | mtn | wheezy is not stable anymore |
| 20:11.56 | Joshua133 | what about backports? |
| 20:11.57 | anddam | swiftynb: no |
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| 20:12.02 | teraflop | anddam: is not a log file it's an XML fine with the VM deffinitions |
| 20:12.06 | anddam | swiftynb: stable is jessie now IIRC |
| 20:12.08 | teraflop | File* |
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| 20:12.28 | swiftynb | so how do i structure this file then? |
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| 20:13.12 | Joshua133 | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ |
| 20:13.25 | anddam | teraflop: /etc/libvirt/qemu is correct |
| 20:13.26 | teraflop | anddam: each VM has a XML file which define its options |
| 20:13.33 | anddam | teraflop: yes I'm reading those |
| 20:13.40 | anddam | also they are root:root 600 |
| 20:13.55 | anddam | and there's a networks/ dir |
| 20:14.17 | teraflop | anddam: alsonyou can't dump the XML via virsh |
| 20:14.41 | swiftynb | so why use debain over ubuntu? |
| 20:14.41 | anddam | teraflop: yes I'm starting to figure the strong tie between kvm and the ability to define VM with xml files |
| 20:14.51 | teraflop | anddam: I guess it's not about permission. But I can't assure 100% |
| 20:14.51 | anddam | swiftynb: what an odd question |
| 20:15.02 | swiftynb | how so? |
| 20:15.19 | anddam | my guess is yes, since "virsh net-list -all" shows an empty table while sudo'ing that line shows the "default" entry |
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| 20:16.16 | teraflop | anddam: did you do sudo virsh ... or just virsh ... |
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| 20:16.47 | anddam | both, the user "virsh" printed an empty table, the instance with sudo printed the single entry called "default" |
| 20:16.52 | anddam | want to look a bpaste? |
| 20:17.05 | swiftynb | i am thinking of porting all my ubuntu servers over to debain servers |
| 20:17.20 | anddam | swiftynb: why? |
| 20:17.32 | anddam | teraflop: cannot find anything odd in the xml files |
| 20:17.32 | vegardx | Seems like a lot of work. |
| 20:17.43 | swiftynb | because like 4 clients have used debain servers and they break my ubuntu stuff |
| 20:18.07 | teraflop | anddam: well. Can you add a new virt network via virt manager and then set the new machines to use it? |
| 20:18.11 | anddam | I'm not able to parse that |
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| 20:18.32 | anddam | teraflop: sure, I should understand what virt network is and how it does work in kvm first, tho' |
| 20:19.13 | teraflop | anddam: you can create new virt networks also attach them to whichever nic you have |
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| 20:19.34 | anddam | can I or do I have to? |
| 20:19.57 | anddam | teraflop: oh, there's #libvirt |
| 20:20.04 | teraflop | There's a default one though or it would be there I suppose |
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| 20:21.45 | teraflop | anddam: just try to add one. And then set the VMS to use it I suppose. It sounds weird that there's no default network there |
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| 20:24.08 | anddam | teraflop: btw https://gist.github.com/anddam/f5aa9cb6cf6f72a5a70e |
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| 20:25.04 | anddam | teraflop: I need an XML file to create a network |
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| 20:26.10 | teraflop | anddam: you just dropped an XML to the dir? |
| 20:26.21 | teraflop | There's have to be one by default |
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| 20:29.02 | swiftynb | ubuntu repos seem a lot faster than deb |
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| 20:33.12 | anddam | found, I'm editing it changin name |
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| 20:33.28 | anddam | the bridge should stay virbr0, I guess since it's the only bridge there's there |
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| 20:33.51 | anddam | teraflop: also are you suggesting to add the net using superuser or not? |
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| 20:34.53 | teraflop | anddam: no, you do not need sudo at all since youre in the kvm group, if your question is about doing it via virt manager |
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| 20:36.19 | anddam | teraflop: my guess is virt-manager and virsh are exactly the same API, only GUI/CLI |
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| 20:36.58 | swiftynb | debian repoos are PAINFuLL! |
| 20:37.04 | swiftynb | capped at like 50kbps |
| 20:37.48 | anddam | swiftynb: that's your mirror, they are not capped |
| 20:37.58 | swiftynb | i have tried 3 mirrors |
| 20:38.05 | swiftynb | us/ ca aus |
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| 20:38.27 | swiftynb | doing both us and ca at the same time now on two different systems |
| 20:39.17 | anddam | teraflop: adding a new network from virt-manager I can create an isolated virtual network but if I choose "Forwarding to physical network" radio button the "Destination" menu only has "Any physical device" |
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| 20:39.29 | anddam | swiftynb: then it's probably your network |
| 20:39.42 | anddam | I do 800 kB/s from home and that's just the limit of my line |
| 20:39.57 | swiftynb | it is not, i have a 5 megabyte per second connection only one using it right now |
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| 20:40.00 | swiftynb | what repo do you use |
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| 20:42.25 | vegardx | Call your ISP. |
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| 20:43.00 | anddam | teraflop: https://dl.dropbox.com/s/3ux86zaphw9khdb/Screenshot%20-%20180515%20-%2022%3A41%3A33.png |
| 20:43.01 | vegardx | If three different mirrors all are slow then it's more likely that they are having issues than all of those mirrors, likely hosted on very robust networks are slow. |
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| 20:43.26 | awal1 | How to prevent openbox from switching to x virtual desktop when sending x application to that x desktop? Example: I'm in virtual desktop 1 and I have xterm and lxterminal open. I send xterm to virtual desktop 2 but I want still in virtual desktop 1, I dont want openbox switchme to desktop 2 |
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| 20:44.25 | cod | Hi, I have recently installed debian and enjoying it alot on my desktop tower machine. My sister has seen, and wants me to install it on her laptop. I am a beginner. She is not tech savvy. I am hesitant on if I should recommend debian for her laptop. Its a fairly generic toshiba, perhaps 5 years old. It is running windows and she says it is very slow now (probably hasnt maintained it very well). Ive been looking at ubuntu and mint, but |
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| 20:44.56 | cod | ...if its a sensible option. She doesnt need to do much on it, only the very basic stuff, so I am thinking debian would be ok. |
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| 20:45.57 | swiftynb | anddam: its not my internet |
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| 20:46.07 | swiftynb | its the canadian repo |
| 20:46.11 | swiftynb | us one just speed up |
| 20:46.15 | anddam | swiftynb: change it |
| 20:46.24 | anddam | there's a package for probing mirrors |
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| 20:47.35 | shay_shay | cod: we recommend Debian... and I can say I gave mint a chance on some workstations at work and I eventually got fed up reinstalled with Debian... if that means anything to you |
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| 20:48.40 | teraflop | anddam: yes, now youre getting permission errors ;) |
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| 20:49.46 | anddam | the actual error is "libvirtError: Cannot open network interface control socket: Operation not permitted |
| 20:49.48 | awal1 | cod: you wanna have debian alongside windows or only debian in that laptop? |
| 20:49.54 | anddam | googling that now |
| 20:50.34 | cod | shay_shay Thats cool thanks |
| 20:50.46 | cod | awal1: I think just debian on its own |
| 20:50.47 | anddam | ah my bad, the virsh needs -c for connecting to system |
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| 20:52.25 | anddam | in fact now I see the net-list with virsh |
| 20:52.38 | kruug | On my VPS, I'm stuck with Wheezy. That means my SSL certs are out of date (20130119+deb7u1). Is there anyway to update them without requiring a full system upgrade? |
| 20:52.38 | awal1 | cod: so just download the required debian image brun it to dvd or usb and boot with it. follow the installer instructions. nothing complicated |
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| 20:54.02 | Resilience | hello to everyone, I am running xfce in debian testing and my debian-menu is empty, I run update-menus and it still empty, what's wrong? |
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| 20:54.11 | cod | awal1: Yeah that part im ok with. Im worried about transferring files from the old laptop to the new debian though. I am a real noob myself, I dont actually even know how to move files around in an easy way using the mouse and control C + V like in windows etc. I am worried that she will bump into a problem, ask me for help, I fail and she get angry and just wish she had the familiar back. |
| 20:54.40 | awal1 | cod: if your machine is a bit old, and less then 4 gb ram, I recommed you choose xfce or mint, also lxde in tasksel step |
| 20:54.44 | cod | awal1: I guess I will just have to carefully explain that there will be a large learning curve, a large period of uncomfortable etc. |
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| 20:56.04 | awal1 | cod: make a backup of your data, then install debian. if you choose to reserve the whole hard disck for debian, be sure to make a backup of your data so, bcuz the hard drive will be formatted |
| 20:56.43 | cod | awal1: yep. backup everything no problem. I will look up xfce now. |
| 20:56.55 | anddam | awal1: did you meant cinnamon rather than mint there? |
| 20:57.49 | awal1 | anddam: oh! I meant 'mate', no mint |
| 20:58.20 | kruug | On my VPS, I'm stuck with Wheezy. That means my SSL certs are out of date (20130119+deb7u1). Is there anyway to update them without requiring a full system upgrade? |
| 20:59.04 | awal1 | anddam: mate is developed by mint upstream, so I got confused :P |
| 20:59.12 | anddam | awal1: makes more sense in tasksel context |
| 20:59.17 | anddam | I think that's cinnamon tho' |
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| 20:59.20 | anddam | not mate |
| 20:59.36 | awal1 | cinnamon: is heavy as gnome |
| 20:59.51 | awal1 | gnome 3 I mean. |
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| 21:00.17 | awal1 | difference between cinnamon and gnome3/gnome-shell is basically just the look |
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| 21:01.34 | awal1 | I think that cinnamon isn't recommended for old machines. |
| 21:02.04 | joegiampaoli | When deleting a file or folder from Desktop in XFCE sometimes it isn't immediate, takes about 5 seconds to respond and move the item to the trash, this happens probably about 50% of the time, it feels almost like a lockup or freeze. I'm using Jessie 64 bit. I'm thinking of maybe a service interfering. Anyone having similar issue? |
| 21:03.03 | Resilience | joegiampaoli, yes, me |
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| 21:03.53 | joegiampaoli | Resilience: Ok not me only, that's good to know! :) Can you please tell me how many seconds it usually takes to respond? |
| 21:04.11 | Resilience | several seconds |
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| 21:04.47 | Resilience | maybe 3 aybe 10, I don0t know, I tend to be very mmmm anxious with fredesktop-style failures, rm is instantaneous |
| 21:04.56 | joegiampaoli | Resilience: Ok, I guess not much but enough to feel the drag. Thanks! |
| 21:05.28 | Resilience | joegiampaoli, not much? an eternity |
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| 21:07.03 | joegiampaoli | Resilience: Oh lol! OK! I think it could be something with the path to trash. I have docky, and the trash icon doesn't respond, I'll see if I can google it up, if I come up with something I'll let you know! |
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| 21:07.42 | Resilience | joegiampaoli, I was running docky, but I don't do now, it happened both ways with/without docky |
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| 21:12.34 | cod | she uses skype. does skype work on debian fairly easily? |
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| 21:14.45 | awal1 | cod: https://wiki.debian.org/skype you can find more info in the wiki about many stuffs. check it |
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| 21:15.12 | cod | awal1: yeah im reading that, looks pretty complicated. i wondered if in reality its not so bad. |
| 21:15.59 | cod | awal1: i think ill just try to convince her not to use skype anymore haha |
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| 21:17.53 | plop6 | hi |
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| 21:20.38 | plop6 | i'am trying to compile lxqt from git repo on debian stable powerpc. everything is fine but missing "KWindowSystem" package to follow process building. any help welcome |
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| 21:25.01 | cod | My current conclusion is, her laptop is basically unusable, so anything is better than that. I will install debian on it and just make sure she knows that it will be different and gotta deal with that! *laughs maniacally* |
| 21:25.30 | cod | thanks for the help guys |
| 21:26.07 | joegiampaoli | cod: I gave up on Skype myself |
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| 21:26.47 | joegiampaoli | cod: Just use it on my tablet now. They have made a total mess of it for linux. |
| 21:27.40 | cod | joegiampaoli: have u tried iceweasel hello? i havent, i dont use voice chat programs. but i think it would be pretty easy for my sis to convince her friends to get firefox if necessary and do things that way. |
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| 21:27.57 | unborn | hangouts much better then skype |
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| 21:28.09 | vegardx | Both are proprietary. |
| 21:28.36 | darthanubis | jitsi |
| 21:28.42 | Alumin | is it possible to have a preseed file (like you would feed into debconf-set-selections) but not actually loaded in, just there to be consulted by APT at package installation time? |
| 21:28.46 | vegardx | Jitsi is nice. Appear.in is jitsi. |
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| 21:30.06 | joegiampaoli | cod: I dont use Iceweasel. when I install debian I remove a lot of pre-installed stuff and install my own programs like Firefox in /opt and create symlinks to /usr/local/bin so they can be called directly from terminal or custom launchers, I think Iceweasel Hello is probably like Firefox's Chat addon |
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| 21:31.32 | joegiampaoli | cod: Once skype stopped giving support to ALSA and decided to just use pulseaudio (which for me is really bad from the point of view of an audio engineer) I no longer use it on my PC |
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| 21:32.38 | Rikairchy | I've created a nice little apt repo for installing software across various machines that had an old version available through the official repos. I've been using checkinstall, and everything works fine. I've got the preinst, postinst, and postrm files all good to go. But now that I have written an init.d script, how do I get checkinstall to include it in the package and place it in the right directory? |
| 21:32.47 | cod | joegiampaoli: ok thats cool, do u use firefox chat? |
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| 21:33.42 | joegiampaoli | cod: nope! I rarely use chat programs, now that everyone is on FB, I either log into FB if I have to chat or use pidgin |
| 21:33.57 | joegiampaoli | cod: Pidgin is pretty good |
| 21:34.22 | cod | joegiampaoli: thanks |
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| 21:34.46 | joegiampaoli | cod: NP :) |
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| 21:35.47 | moty66 | hello, how can I find all files that have an exact number of lines? |
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| 21:38.43 | RoyK | moty66: find /somewhere -type f -exec wc -l {} \; |
| 21:38.52 | RoyK | will give you the line count of those files |
| 21:39.02 | Rikairchy | the only thing I can think of is running a wget script (which may eventually fail in older versions if the location changes, or finding a way to cat it |
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| 21:41.15 | moty66 | RoyK: thank you |
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| 21:42.02 | RoyK | moty66: you could add things like -iname \*.txt if you want to filter things - see man find |
| 21:43.35 | moty66 | RoyK: i don't know which type of file is, what I know that the file has 45 lines :) |
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| 21:44.02 | moty66 | RoyK: find | wc in 20 gb hd will take one year :( |
| 21:44.40 | RoyK | moty66: find | wc will only count the number of files |
| 21:44.56 | RoyK | the statement I gave you will run wc -l for each file |
| 21:45.03 | moty66 | RoyK: find / -type f -print | xargs wc -l | grep 30 |
| 21:45.05 | vegardx | Put it on an SSD. |
| 21:45.09 | vegardx | Over in a few seconds. |
| 21:46.02 | RoyK | moty66: no... find /somewhere -type f -exec wc -l {} \; # that'll count the number of lines in each file - what you're doing is just count the number of files, which is easier with df -i |
| 21:46.22 | somiaj | moty66: really hard to figure out the number of lines without opening the file. It is only 45 lines, so the file can't be to big. So ignore any file over a paticular size. |
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| 21:46.51 | moty66 | RoyK: thanks |
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| 21:46.56 | RoyK | moty66: see the -size parameter |
| 21:47.12 | RoyK | moty66: you can look for files smaller than (something) and count the number of lines in them |
| 21:48.05 | moty66 | find /somewhere -type f -exec wc -l {} \; | grep 45 ? |
| 21:48.26 | RoyK | moty66: read the manual |
| 21:48.39 | moty66 | RoyK: sure :) |
| 21:48.44 | RoyK | moty66: find /somewhere -type f -size (something) -exec wc -l {} \; |
| 21:48.45 | moty66 | RoyK: thanks for the help :) |
| 21:48.51 | RoyK | and then pipe it to grep |
| 21:49.02 | RoyK | or just sort it and find out yourself |
| 21:49.06 | RoyK | | sort |
| 21:49.07 | RoyK | etc |
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| 21:50.21 | RoyK | moty66: for instance - find . -type f -size -100k -exec wc -l {} \; |
| 21:50.44 | RoyK | -100k means 100k or less |
| 21:51.00 | RoyK | +100k means 100k or more |
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| 21:51.24 | RoyK | (not sure if it's 'equal or more' or just 'more', but guess the manual could tell you about that byte difference) |
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| 22:00.09 | moty66 | }, this is the command right now: find / -type f -exec sh -c '[ "$(wc -l {})" = "22 {}" ]' \; -print 2>/dev/null | grep -v access |
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| 22:19.26 | Remram | Is there a fast way to identify which (installed) package a local file comes from? |
| 22:19.33 | Remram | Say, if I have a lot of files to lookup |
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| 22:23.14 | abrotman | Remram: dpkg -S path/to/file |
| 22:23.26 | Remram | I'm doing that right now, it's really slow |
| 22:23.33 | Remram | executing a command for each file I want to look up... |
| 22:23.37 | abrotman | It shouldn't be |
| 22:23.52 | abrotman | how many files are you looking up? |
| 22:24.20 | Remram | 1060 |
| 22:24.45 | abrotman | Shouldn't take that long |
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| 22:25.09 | jelly | ,i dlocate |
| 22:25.10 | judd | Package dlocate (utils, optional) in jessie/amd64: fast alternative to dpkg -L and dpkg -S. Version: 1.02+nmu3; Size: 22.1k; Installed: 107k |
| 22:25.23 | jelly | Remram: ^^ |
| 22:25.54 | jelly | (dpkg -S is horribly inefficient) |
| 22:26.55 | jelly | creating a single large regex out of 1060 paths and egrepping /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list would probably be faster |
| 22:27.29 | jelly | grep -f is also horribly inefficient |
| 22:27.39 | abrotman | so angry :) |
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| 22:28.21 | Remram | Oh, I can just look into these *.list files? |
| 22:28.26 | abrotman | yes |
| 22:28.26 | jelly | disillusioned, maybe |
| 22:28.31 | Remram | that sounds like the fastest way |
| 22:28.32 | abrotman | wonders how you lose 1000 files |
| 22:28.44 | abrotman | Remram: that depends how many packages you have installed, it could be slow |
| 22:28.51 | jelly | dpkg's internal state is really just a bunch of text files |
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| 22:29.28 | jelly | but... didn't dpkg -S accept multiple paths in a single command? |
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| 22:29.52 | jelly | yeah. dpkg -S /bin/ls /usr/bin/mpv |
| 22:30.33 | Remram | hmm I guess I could have done that |
| 22:31.00 | Remram | I'll probably switch straight to reading the files |
| 22:31.04 | Remram | thanks! |
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| 22:49.56 | chalcedny | can someone suggest which things to try first? i have wheezy, |
| 22:49.56 | chalcedny | ati rs680 ati radeon x1200 series - i've moved the drive to a different system, now it has no gui. i tried downloading new ati drivers, but it still has no gui. |
| 22:51.04 | SynrG | chalcedny: what was it before? the new system is rs680? |
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| 22:51.32 | SynrG | chalcedny: when you say "i tried downloading ..." i hope you don't mean from their site, but from debian |
| 22:51.42 | chalcedny | synack, yes from debian |
| 22:51.48 | teraflop | chalcedny: you need to follow the detailed instructions http://a.pomf.se/oqqzfa.jpg |
| 22:52.11 | jelly | teraflop: pro tip: don't do that |
| 22:52.12 | chalcedny | teraflop, thanks a new page to me |
| 22:52.27 | teraflop | jelly: sorry |
| 22:52.33 | chalcedny | um jelly which? |
| 22:52.34 | SynrG | chalcedny: tab-completion fail on my nick, there ... |
| 22:52.42 | chalcedny | SynrG, indeed |
| 22:52.51 | SynrG | chalcedny: the free driver should be fine on this hardware |
| 22:52.54 | chalcedny | sorry for that |
| 22:53.20 | chalcedny | maybe then i have to configure monitor somehow? |
| 22:53.26 | chalcedny | atm i just have one monitor on it |
| 22:53.30 | SynrG | you need firmware for the free driver |
| 22:53.35 | SynrG | did you use the free driver, or fglrx? |
| 22:53.37 | teraflop | chalcedny: i was joking please ignore that link |
| 22:53.38 | chalcedny | previously and probably in the future i'll have two |
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| 22:54.01 | chalcedny | flrx isn't in it now, i checked |
| 22:54.12 | chalcedny | fglrx even .. bad typing |
| 22:54.13 | SynrG | so you have xserver-xorg-video-radeon? |
| 22:54.21 | chalcedny | let me look |
| 22:54.24 | SynrG | and firmware-linux-nonfree? |
| 22:54.37 | SynrG | if so, let's see /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 22:54.44 | SynrG | also, do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf? |
| 22:55.32 | chalcedny | yes to /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:55.41 | SynrG | normally not needed. what's in it? |
| 22:55.44 | chalcedny | but i think i made that for the last install |
| 22:55.49 | chalcedny | i did need it |
| 22:56.13 | SynrG | for two monitors, perhaps. |
| 22:56.32 | SynrG | but if you're overly specific in it, and you change hardware, you might have problems |
| 22:56.40 | SynrG | you could try just renaming it for now |
| 22:56.41 | chalcedny | ahh |
| 22:56.45 | chalcedny | ok |
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| 22:59.47 | chalcedny | SynrG, http://pastebin.com/G6xDK4i4 |
| 23:01.36 | SynrG | !pastebin.com |
| 23:01.37 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 23:02.32 | SynrG | also, that's not the whole log |
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| 23:02.41 | SynrG | chalcedny: try: |
| 23:02.43 | SynrG | !nopaste |
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| 23:03.01 | SynrG | hmm. dpkg bot on holiday? |
| 23:03.10 | yam1 | how can i install gdb from backports repository? |
| 23:03.12 | SynrG | apt-get install libapp-nopaste-perl |
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| 23:03.27 | SynrG | ,v gdb |
| 23:03.28 | judd | Package: gdb on amd64 -- squeeze: 7.0.1-2+b1; squeeze-backports: 7.3-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 7.4.1+dfsg-0.1; stretch: 7.7.1+dfsg-5; sid: 7.7.1+dfsg-5; jessie: 7.7.1+dfsg-5; experimental: 7.9-1 |
| 23:03.42 | SynrG | yam1: unless you're on squeeze, you don't. |
| 23:03.56 | yam1 | why i cant i get backports on wheezy? |
| 23:03.58 | SynrG | yam1: what's wrong with the gdb you have? |
| 23:04.01 | yam1 | i have it for other packages |
| 23:04.06 | yam1 | theres a known bug |
| 23:04.10 | SynrG | not all packages have backports. |
| 23:04.12 | yam1 | https://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13987 |
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| 23:04.26 | SynrG | also, to be eligible for backporting, it needs to enter testing first |
| 23:04.42 | SynrG | also, for wheezy it would have to go into wheezy-backports-sloppy |
| 23:04.42 | yam1 | ah man. would i have to build it myself then? |
| 23:04.56 | yam1 | debian's version is pre-2012 |
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| 23:05.04 | yam1 | like more than 3 years aold |
| 23:05.13 | SynrG | the version in jessie would do? |
| 23:05.17 | chalcedny | SynrG, ive forgotten the command to pastebinit things like logs? |
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| 23:05.36 | yam1 | SynrG: yes. |
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| 23:05.37 | SynrG | yam1: why don't you just upgrade to jessie? wheezy isn't getting any younger. jessie is now stable. wheezy is oldstable. |
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| 23:05.50 | SynrG | chalcedny: i just told you. |
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| 23:05.55 | chalcedny | maybe i should do that too |
| 23:05.56 | yam1 | heh im just looking for a debugger here |
| 23:05.58 | SynrG | chalcedny: apt-get install libapp-nopaste-perl |
| 23:06.03 | SynrG | chalcedny: the command is 'nopaste' |
| 23:06.07 | un214 | is there a tool that can unpack a raw deflate stream? |
| 23:06.12 | SynrG | chalcedny: alternatively, there is 'pastebinit' if you already have that one |
| 23:06.14 | yam1 | is the only option to build it myself? |
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| 23:06.21 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
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| 23:06.56 | zinx | oh deah, looks like part of the internets died |
| 23:06.58 | chalcedny | it's happily getting it |
| 23:06.58 | abrotman | wtf .. |
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| 23:07.33 | SynrG | seems like i lagged out |
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| 23:08.09 | zinx | SynrG: debhelper did, anyway |
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| 23:08.29 | SynrG | nah. all of a sudden as i typed, quassel froze |
| 23:08.32 | SynrG | that was strange. |
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| 23:08.54 | chalcedny | SynrG, looks like a server timed out - several people left |
| 23:09.00 | SynrG | yam1: still didn't answer my question. you complain about wheezy's gdb being out of date ... of course it is. wheezy is old |
| 23:09.07 | SynrG | yam1: upgrade time. |
| 23:09.33 | yam1 | SynrG: yea but its not superceeded by 3 years. i cant upgrade my whole distro right now |
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| 23:09.50 | SynrG | yam1: wheezy is two years old, so not a shocker |
| 23:09.57 | SynrG | yam1: you get what 'stable' means? :) |
| 23:10.08 | chalcedny | SynrG, should i upgrade first or just get the gui working and then upgrade? or go steal my husband's 2nd monitor again so i have two first? |
| 23:10.12 | yam1 | its not even a month old yet |
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| 23:10.28 | yam1 | you sure tehres no other way to get a fixed version of GDB? |
| 23:10.28 | SynrG | yam1: if in all that time gdb was never backported i can only conclude: |
| 23:10.34 | SynrG | 1. nobody needs it or 2. it's hard |
| 23:10.52 | yam1 | would building it myself be out of the question in that case? |
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| 23:10.55 | SynrG | (or 3. nobody needs it *and* it's hard :) ) |
| 23:11.03 | SynrG | yam1: you're welcome to try |
| 23:11.13 | yam1 | whats the best way to do this? |
| 23:11.19 | SynrG | but generally building for two releases ago is tricky |
| 23:11.28 | yam1 | get the code off http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/current/? |
| 23:11.34 | SynrG | would 7.7 do? |
| 23:11.35 | zinx | download the debian sources and try to build it |
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| 23:11.46 | SynrG | !ssb |
| 23:11.46 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
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| 23:11.55 | SynrG | yam1: ^^ this, except get it from jessie, not from sid |
| 23:12.05 | SynrG | yam1: provided jessie's version is ok for you. |
| 23:12.28 | zinx | or you could try lldb |
| 23:12.43 | SynrG | chalcedny: actually in your case, i would get it working first and then upgrade. i don't think it's that hard |
| 23:13.13 | SynrG | chalcedny: did you try simply renaming xorg.conf out of the way? |
| 23:13.29 | SynrG | then /etc/init.d/gdm3 restart, or whatever you need to do to bring your gui up again |
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| 23:13.50 | SynrG | chalcedny: and i don't think you confirmed if you have linux-firmware-nonfree installed. i think you need that for rs680 |
| 23:14.24 | chalcedny | SynrG, ok checking linux-firmware-nonfree |
| 23:14.49 | SynrG | wrong name |
| 23:15.00 | chalcedny | SynrG, ok i don't have that |
| 23:15.09 | SynrG | chalcedny: firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 23:15.15 | SynrG | sorry. i always get those transposed |
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| 23:15.26 | yam1 | SynrG: how can i ask dpkg about deb-src jessie? |
| 23:15.42 | chalcedny | l# ls firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 23:15.42 | chalcedny | ls: cannot access firmware-linux-nonfree: No such file or directory |
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| 23:16.00 | SynrG | yam1: dpkg bot has no factoid for backports from stable -> oldstable |
| 23:16.07 | SynrG | but ... |
| 23:16.18 | SynrG | !jessie sources.list |
| 23:16.18 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 23:16.29 | SynrG | yam1: ^^ that, except use 'deb-src', not 'deb' |
| 23:16.45 | SynrG | yam1: don't make a mistake there. you definitely don't want deb lines yet if you intend to hold off on upgrading |
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| 23:17.05 | yam1 | SynrG: can you please help me with my fiel? |
| 23:17.09 | yam1 | this looks complicate |
| 23:17.10 | yam1 | d |
| 23:17.16 | yam1 | ill pastebin my current file to u |
| 23:17.29 | SynrG | sigh. no, it's very simple as you only need one of those |
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| 23:21.09 | SynrG | chalcedny: yes. does your sources.list have non-free enabled? |
| 23:21.21 | SynrG | yam1: apt-cache policy | nopaste |
| 23:21.28 | chalcedny | SynrG, i think so, checking |
| 23:21.39 | SynrG | well, leave off the nopaste if you want to just check it yourself. but nopaste and give us the URL otherwise |
| 23:21.44 | yam1 | SynrG: i already have "deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main contrib non-free" in my list |
| 23:21.52 | SynrG | good. so that's step 2 |
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| 23:22.26 | yam1 | but thats a different backports line than you told me |
| 23:22.41 | SynrG | i never told you a backports line ... |
| 23:22.58 | SynrG | i told you jessie. and anyway, httpredir.debian.org, just recently announced, supercedes http.debian.net |
| 23:23.09 | SynrG | and http.debian.net is retained as a DNS pointer to the new name |
| 23:23.20 | yam1 | http://pastebin.com/VzGbYwsJ |
| 23:23.24 | SynrG | so they're equivalent |
| 23:23.33 | yam1 | thats what i have in my fiel after i added the line you told me |
| 23:23.35 | SynrG | and please, for the love of pete, don't use pastebin.com :) |
| 23:23.59 | yam1 | SynrG: its the 4th from last line where i added your line |
| 23:24.03 | preyalone | I want to make a docker base image from debian slink, but i'm not sure what to grab from the iso. boot/resc1440.bin? |
| 23:24.11 | SynrG | !tell yam1 about pastebin.com |
| 23:24.28 | preyalone | install/root.bin? |
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| 23:24.49 | SynrG | yam1: that's fine |
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| 23:25.25 | yam1 | ok so the bot said i have to enable debian-backports |
| 23:25.28 | yam1 | how can i do that? |
| 23:25.39 | awal1 | How to enable/disable xfce4-power-manager 'presentation mode' via terminal? |
| 23:26.25 | SynrG | preyalone: install manual any help? |
| 23:26.39 | SynrG | preyalone: https://www.debian.org/releases/slink/i386/install |
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| 23:26.58 | chalcedny | SynrG, i have lots of wheezy/* contrib non-free |
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| 23:27.05 | abrotman | preyalone: you shuld read the install manual for slink .. you need the root and boot images |
| 23:27.12 | SynrG | preyalone: few people here remember installing from floppies anymore. heck, i've done it dozens of times and am not sure even i remember :) |
| 23:27.23 | yam1 | SynrG: it might already be enabled? not sure how to tell |
| 23:27.38 | SynrG | preyalone: i think i may be blacking out on that. ptsd or so |
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| 23:28.02 | SynrG | yam1: it is already enabled. |
| 23:28.13 | SynrG | yam1: you have wheezy-backports, which is appropriate for wheezy. |
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| 23:28.20 | SynrG | yam1: i thought we were past that step ... |
| 23:28.52 | yam1 | SynrG: i added the line you wanted 4th from the bottom |
| 23:29.06 | yam1 | now the bot says run aptitude update? |
| 23:29.24 | SynrG | yes. |
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| 23:30.26 | yam1 | ok, now running "aptitude install build-essential" |
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| 23:30.45 | preyalone | i found debootstrap, but it only goes down to potato. could we publish a debootstrap script for slink? |
| 23:31.00 | SynrG | i doubt it |
| 23:31.26 | yam1 | it looks like there are some build deps i need to install... |
| 23:31.55 | SynrG | preyalone: debootstrap postdates slink |
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| 23:33.05 | SynrG | preyalone: i'm sure you have a Really Good Reason, but why slink on docker? |
| 23:33.34 | yam1 | SynrG: hmm imgetting an error "dpkg-architecture: error: DEB_TARGET_ARCH and DEB_TARGET_GNU_TYPE is not a supported variable name" |
| 23:33.53 | yam1 | SynrG: this is when installing gdb source |
| 23:34.13 | preyalone | SynrG: for native libc5 support for jdk 1.0. for fun. |
| 23:34.32 | chalcedny | SynrG, what do i need to do next? |
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| 23:35.10 | SynrG | preyalone: hmm ... it may be that in a prior release of debootstrap, slink *was* supported ... once upon a time ... |
| 23:35.35 | SynrG | preyalone: so get a debootstrap of *that* release on docker, and use it as your build env for the debootstrap of slink. easy-peasy :) |
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| 23:36.29 | SynrG | preyalone: e.g. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=94575 mentions slink |
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| 23:36.39 | preyalone | so does https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromAnotherDistro :( |
| 23:36.43 | yam1 | SynrG: how can i fix the DEB_TARGET_ARCH/DEB_TARGET_GNU_TYPE issue? |
| 23:37.14 | SynrG | preyalone: so i guess woody? |
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| 23:38.03 | SynrG | yam1: helping you debug a backport, error by error, line by line, is beyond the scope of this channel |
| 23:38.11 | SynrG | yam1: either it "just works" or it doesn't |
| 23:38.15 | SynrG | yam1: upgrade to jessie |
| 23:38.37 | yam1 | if i upgrade, would i wipe out all my settings/installed apps/encrypted home disk? |
| 23:38.39 | SynrG | yam1: back to my original assertion. either 1. nobody needs it or 2. it's too hard |
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| 23:39.01 | SynrG | i can't imagine it would. why would it do that? |
| 23:39.14 | SynrG | but read the release notes / install manual if you have concerns |
| 23:39.15 | yam1 | also im dual booting with windows. would that casue an issue? |
| 23:39.17 | SynrG | !release notes |
| 23:39.17 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 8 "Jessie" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/releasenotes . See also <wheezy->jessie>, <install guide>. |
| 23:39.25 | SynrG | generally no |
| 23:39.42 | SynrG | !tell yam1 about wheezy->jessie |
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| 23:40.50 | jerichowasahoax | yam1: if windows ever decides to reassert its dominance as the "booting OS" (usually if you reinstall it, though sometimes WinUpdate causes it), you'll need a liveCD to put GRUB back |
| 23:41.11 | jerichowasahoax | yam1: but that's the only real problem beyond "where am i going to store what file" |
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| 23:56.42 | chalcedny | SynrG, W: Duplicate sources.list entry http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages) |
| 23:56.42 | chalcedny | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 23:56.51 | chalcedny | so, i had it.. |
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| 23:57.41 | SynrG | chalcedny: not sure what you did there. but that talks about main |
| 23:57.48 | chalcedny | checking for firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 23:57.49 | SynrG | were you trying to do something about non-free? |
| 23:58.09 | dvs | chalcedny: sounds like you have a duplicate line. |
| 23:58.11 | chalcedny | i have both |
| 23:58.16 | drumr77 | i installed debian 8 as open ssh without desktop and not as a web server. i seem to have been missing ifconfig |
| 23:58.26 | drumr77 | and it cannot be found in apt-get |
| 23:58.28 | SynrG | chalcedny: you should eliminate the dupe and apt-get update |
| 23:58.38 | chalcedny | dvs |
| 23:58.38 | chalcedny | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main |
| 23:58.38 | chalcedny | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian wheezy main non-free |
| 23:58.39 | drumr77 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:58.52 | SynrG | chalcedny: the first of these is a duplicate |
| 23:58.55 | chalcedny | i expect main is the duplicate |
| 23:58.56 | dvs | chalcedny: yup , first line is now unnecessary |
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