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| 00:08.08 | yangm | so, how should I run a minecraft server on vanilla debian? |
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| 00:10.11 | TacoGS | Download it |
| 00:10.31 | TacoGS | and then run it, short of mods it should run. Unless it complains about java not being present. |
| 00:11.01 | meLon | https://minecraft.net/download yangm |
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| 00:11.52 | yangm | meLon, I mean, I have a spigotmc server and I would like to have some control over it |
| 00:12.53 | yangm | like, should I run it on bare hands or use some tool like MineOS |
| 00:13.29 | yangm | (the installable version, not frankeindebian) |
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| 01:10.27 | TechOdeb | hi i am problem |
| 01:10.30 | TechOdeb | please hel |
| 01:10.34 | TechOdeb | help |
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| 01:11.09 | TechOdeb | i have problem ? please help |
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| 01:12.15 | TechOdeb | ? |
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| 02:34.01 | sydney_untangle | Is there some way to check if someone rebooted my system, or if it had a kernel panic or what? I came in to here with a rebooted system. |
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| 02:38.21 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: you can check the logs in /var/log |
| 02:39.01 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: if the system was manually rebooted you should see a clean shutdown. If someone just shut off the power or hit the reset button you won't se anything nice |
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| 02:39.36 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: if it was a kernel panic (usually these just freeze the system not reboot) I am unsure if it will log it, or if it just freezes |
| 02:40.04 | sydney_untangle | It would freeze, but it would be a non-clean boot. |
| 02:40.20 | sydney_untangle | Im trying to troubleshoot why my brother rebooted it. ;) |
| 02:40.23 | somiaj | but I don't think you would be able to tell if some hardware issue caused a reboot (sometimes that is how the mobo acts to strange hardware) or someone just hitting the 'reset' button |
| 02:40.58 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: check /var/log/messages (that is basically the log of dmesg and you should see stuff) |
| 02:41.05 | somiaj | sydney_untangle: if using systemd, check journalctl |
| 02:41.08 | sydney_untangle | I don't have a reset button. |
| 02:41.25 | sydney_untangle | And ive ran this system for years without any random acts. ;) |
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| 02:45.35 | sydney_untangle | It shows a susspend took place... |
| 02:45.39 | sydney_untangle | but thats not right. |
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| 04:18.18 | blocky | is usbmon a loadable module in jessie? how can i install it? |
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| 04:28.53 | xenos80 | I'm trying to install debian 8 in a vm running under virtualbox with a 1gb hdd image, but I keep running in to failure to select and install software |
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| 04:48.59 | JasonWoof | xenos80: that's pretty small |
| 04:49.30 | xenos80 | you might be right, i gave up and bumped it up to 4 |
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| 04:50.45 | JasonWoof | xenos80: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en says 2GB |
| 04:51.16 | JasonWoof | though, the page that linked me there said 680MB: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch02s05.html.en |
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| 04:52.20 | xenos80 | I'm sure I've had a debian install with xfce and a few packages sit at just over 4gb |
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| 04:54.59 | rozie | it depends how do you install - full xfce (I guess it's metapackage) or just base |
| 04:55.25 | rozie | there's also option in apt not to install suggested and recommended packages |
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| 05:00.43 | rozie | Goose_: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/ |
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| 05:03.01 | Goose_ | rozie: Thanks! I looked there and followed most of it. Is there anything else I need to do besides "sudo cp debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso /dev/sdb" |
| 05:03.11 | Goose_ | Then "sync" |
| 05:03.30 | shay_shay | cp;sync;reboot |
| 05:03.33 | shay_shay | all in one line |
| 05:03.35 | shay_shay | :D |
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| 05:04.08 | Goose_ | It doesn't show in my BIOS then for some reason. Wasn't sure if I did something wrong |
| 05:04.59 | shay_shay | Goose_: you might have your bios set to only boot uefi |
| 05:05.10 | shay_shay | and the live iso's dont have uefi |
| 05:05.10 | Goose_ | Thanks! Just trying to switch from Ubuntu to Debian |
| 05:05.21 | Goose_ | That may be it. |
| 05:05.27 | Goose_ | I'll have to check |
| 05:05.50 | shay_shay | can you write the netinstall to your usb? netinstall has uefi |
| 05:06.04 | shay_shay | all of the standalone installers do, just not the live systems |
| 05:06.07 | Goose_ | I believe I could |
| 05:06.21 | Goose_ | I just already had a .iso on my hdd |
| 05:06.46 | shay_shay | well if you want to try it out before you "buy" , then you might have to enable legacy boot |
| 05:07.01 | Goose_ | Ah |
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| 05:07.21 | shay_shay | but if you plan on installing uefi then you'll still need to get a dedicated debian installer |
| 05:07.25 | shay_shay | such as the netinst |
| 05:07.58 | Goose_ | How exactly do you install it that way? |
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| 05:08.16 | shay_shay | it boots straight into the text based installer |
| 05:08.39 | Goose_ | I really just am looking for the easiest way to install from usb |
| 05:08.43 | shay_shay | its a dialog type interface, you use your keyboard/arrow keys to answer questions |
| 05:08.56 | shay_shay | they are both equally easy |
| 05:09.39 | shay_shay | netinst(all) is what I recommend for anyone who has better than DSL broadband internet |
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| 05:10.09 | Goose_ | Is there a downside to install using the .iso? |
| 05:10.37 | shay_shay | which iso? you mean the live one? |
| 05:10.45 | Goose_ | yes |
| 05:10.47 | shay_shay | impossible to install uefi bootloader |
| 05:10.51 | Goose_ | the hybrid iso |
| 05:10.56 | Goose_ | Oh okay |
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| 05:11.01 | shay_shay | they're all hybrid isos |
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| 05:11.11 | shay_shay | https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 05:11.59 | xenos80 | somethings amiss here, still no go with no gui installed on 4g |
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| 05:13.16 | dhaval2712 | I'm trying to install debian on a very compact SanDisk USB drive and while the installation runs fine, I get a "usb error read/64 -71" and I'm thrown into busybox. |
| 05:14.09 | dhaval2712 | I've googled the issue and apparently it's was bug that occurred with LUKS over LVM drives and should be solved. I have tried two different ISOs and two different Machines. Same issue. |
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| 05:22.31 | Goose_ | Woohoo! |
| 05:22.56 | Goose_ | Got it working. Thanks again! |
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| 05:24.51 | shay_shay | Goose_: was i right? |
| 05:25.06 | shay_shay | :D |
| 05:25.15 | shay_shay | D: |
| 05:25.28 | shay_shay | :o |
| 05:25.28 | swift110-phone | Hey guys |
| 05:25.45 | Goose_ | shay_shay: yep! |
| 05:25.50 | Goose_ | Well I beleive so |
| 05:26.03 | Goose_ | Talking on debian right now. Now to reformat and install! :) |
| 05:26.13 | shay_shay | woot |
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| 05:31.49 | dhaval2712 | So would anyone know what I could do? |
| 05:32.23 | xenos80 | I gave it a 10gb image to play with, and it finally worked. df reports 889M used. that's annoying |
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| 05:34.32 | shay_shay | xenos80: windows 7 wont fit on 60 gb partition with a new install |
| 05:35.06 | shay_shay | and it has less functionality out of the box imo |
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| 05:35.56 | xenos80 | it's debian 8, not windows 7 |
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| 05:37.46 | shay_shay | and what makes you think 10gb is big? |
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| 05:39.35 | xenos80 | debian with no gui? 4gb is too small for that? |
| 05:40.16 | xenos80 | I've installed lxde and chromium in under 5gb easily |
| 05:40.36 | agric0la | shay_shay, what makes you thin it is not big? |
| 05:40.59 | xenos80 | du is reporting around 900mb used, but it refused to install in a image under 10gb in size, that's kinda stupid |
| 05:41.00 | shay_shay | agric0la: windows 7 is more than 60 gigs |
| 05:41.12 | shay_shay | and thats two generations old windows |
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| 05:42.23 | agric0la | shay_shay, oh you meant the installation size? |
| 05:42.28 | shay_shay | yeah |
| 05:43.03 | shay_shay | i always give 16 gigs to desktop vms |
| 05:43.09 | jester45 | windows 7 is not over 60gb installed |
| 05:43.22 | jester45 | not even close to it |
| 05:43.24 | shay_shay | jester45: wrong. |
| 05:44.00 | shay_shay | i'm aware there are some unofficial hacks to slim it down |
| 05:44.10 | agric0la | shay_shay, I am getting a strange issue with Iceweael |
| 05:44.15 | shay_shay | with all the defaults, its over 60 |
| 05:44.17 | agric0la | distorted and fuzzy video |
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| 05:45.02 | agric0la | in Youtube.com |
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| 05:49.51 | jester45 | shay_shay, http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/system-requirements seems to say you only need 16GB. Thats official from MS. now i would never suggest you try and use windows on anything under 100gb |
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| 05:51.40 | xenos80 | jester45, totally agreed about the 100gb, but I was dual booting the win8.1 enterprise evaluation and lubuntu 14.04 on a laptop with an 80gb (74gb formatted) hard drive. I'm sure I dedicated at least 20gb to lubuntu, giving windows under 60gb |
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| 05:57.26 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 05:58.22 | _Raiz | Is there any "arch-chroot" alternatives that work on debian? |
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| 06:03.51 | _Raiz | Hello? |
| 06:04.01 | _Raiz | 1618 total? |
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| 06:05.12 | dizzylizzy | it sure seems to be able to do things only root should be able to do, but somebody is telling me that this is not the case |
| 06:05.34 | joegiampaoli | This is my first 64 bit linux installation. Debian Jessie. Long time linux user though. Is it safe to enable multiarch? I need to install and run wine in 32 bit mode. Are these instructions correct and safe? http://cosmolinux.no-ip.org/raconetlinux2/wine.html |
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| 06:06.05 | dizzylizzy | yes, the crontab in /etc/crontab is specifying root as the user |
| 06:06.09 | dizzylizzy | sorry to bother y'all |
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| 06:34.05 | i5um41ru | please help, i can't install dnsutils http://postimg.org/image/c16xcgsjj/ |
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| 06:42.23 | civillian | i5um41ru: looks like you have a half-finished update still pending |
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| 06:45.37 | i5um41ru | civillian: so, what to do? |
| 06:46.06 | i5um41ru | civillian: doing apt-get -f install , all say already updated |
| 06:47.19 | civillian | i5um41ru: can you pastebin: 'apt-cache policy libdns69' |
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| 06:48.50 | i5um41ru | civillian: here is http://pastie.org/10198006 |
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| 06:49.48 | SM0TVI | Okay guys, a quickie, how do I prevent /etc/resolv.conf being overwritten on bootup? |
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| 06:55.38 | civillian | i5um41ru: apt seems to think the version on security.debian.org is 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze11 however you have 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze13 installed. |
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| 06:58.18 | i5um41ru | civillian: so, do i have to remove it, and then trying to reinstall it? |
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| 06:59.17 | civillian | i5um41ru: i have to go, hopefully someone else can help you |
| 07:00.04 | i5um41ru | civillian: well, thanks :) |
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| 07:29.57 | robwgla | Hi all! |
| 07:29.58 | robwgla | Is there also a live rescue cd for 8.0 |
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| 07:31.53 | marjolein | yay - problems with USB and missing files FINALLY solved; unplugged old USB drive that was giving me grief (I have a backup now), lots and LOTS of fsck, and SystemRescueCd to find that one disk in the RAID station had invalid superblocks, and repairing that with TestDisk. All of that took only 2 days :-| |
| 07:32.37 | marjolein | and the much-wanted missing file is now visible again (3 days' worth of notes about setting up a new Linode) |
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| 07:55.45 | zamba | hoi! i believe i'm getting false positives on 2800858.. can someone explain to me how byte_test works? |
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| 07:56.14 | zamba | is byte_test a "standalone" test or is it relative to some other test? |
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| 07:56.45 | Misan | Good morning guys |
| 07:56.55 | zamba | good morning :) |
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| 07:58.26 | Misan | I'm trying to install the latest version (or at least a stable version that supports a feature I need) of ffmpeg. Unfortunately, Debian Wheezy has only 0.8.17 (instead of 2.4 stable) in the package lists after apt-get update. Is there any way I can still get the newer version via apt-get? |
| 07:58.34 | Misan | Any help is very much appreciated |
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| 08:00.42 | ChrisH | ,v ffmpeg |
| 08:00.43 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 6:0.8.17-1; sid: 7:2.6.3-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.2-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.6.3-dmo1 |
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| 08:02.51 | Misan | I think I found something to get newer source lists: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/craigevil-176422/howto-get-newer-package-versions-for-debian-stable-34611/ |
| 08:02.56 | Misan | I'll work through that |
| 08:03.57 | themill | Misan: you probably want libav-tools not ffmpeg and you can get it from wheezy-backports |
| 08:04.05 | themill | ,v libav-tools --release wheezy-backports |
| 08:04.06 | judd | Package: libav-tools on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1 |
| 08:04.16 | themill | (you might also like to upgrade to jessie if you're needing newer packages) |
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| 08:04.50 | Misan | oh, thank you for the information. |
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| 08:08.58 | zamba | hehe |
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| 08:12.24 | zamba | salih_: i guess mail filtering or just a file share? |
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| 08:13.01 | salih_ | oh I see. Then ClamAV is the way to go |
| 08:13.16 | salih_ | obviously |
| 08:13.18 | salih_ | :) |
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| 08:13.50 | Sander^work | Whats the syntax in fstab for using mount --bind ? |
| 08:14.46 | Misan | hm.. I added deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main to my sources, did apt-get update and then tried to apt-get install libav-tools and ffmpeg, but I still get no newer versions. |
| 08:16.32 | Misan | ah I have to do apt-get -t wheezy-backports install |
| 08:16.53 | jelly | ,v ffmpeg |
| 08:16.54 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 6:0.8.17-1; sid: 7:2.6.3-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.2-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.6.3-dmo1 |
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| 08:17.39 | jelly | no ffmpeg in wheezy-backports (or wheezy, really) |
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| 08:18.18 | Misan | any other possibility to get the newer version? |
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| 08:19.40 | jelly | Misan: upgrade the OS to jessie, then backport or cherry-pick from an old sid snapshot right before the release |
| 08:20.50 | Misan | I'll ask the sysadmin if that would be preferable. Thank you a lot jelly |
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| 08:21.50 | jelly | well, you can always build your own, either try backporting to wheezy, or from sources |
| 08:22.08 | jelly | no idea how hard that would be, though |
| 08:22.16 | gr8 | hi, I am getting a weird error with thinkfan: http://paste.debian.net/180896/ any ideas? |
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| 08:25.30 | zub | Hi. I'm running sid. In dmesg, after boot, I see something is eagerly trying to detect filesystems on partitions, so there is a bunch of errors/warnings like: EXT4-fs (sda2): VFS: Can't find ext4 filesystem, FAT-fs (sda4): Can't find a valid FAT filesystem, and many other FS types (hfs+, minix, qnx4, ...) |
| 08:25.36 | gr8 | thinkfan version is 0.9.2-1 on Debian 8 |
| 08:25.53 | Misan | thank you jelly. I'll investigate if there are alternatives to ffmpeg first. I think anything else on root level goes beyond what I am allowed to do on the system. Thanks anyway :) |
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| 08:26.07 | zub | I have a luks and a truectypr partitions, so these obviously would not be detected as containing valid FS |
| 08:26.30 | zub | I'd like to know what program is causing this FS detection and if I can somehow prevent this. |
| 08:26.42 | zub | it's not from fstab |
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| 08:28.32 | zepard | hi |
| 08:28.56 | zepard | is there an openproject packaging attempt on jessie? |
| 08:29.30 | zepard | any idea on this one? https://www.openproject.org/open-source/packaged-installation/packaged-installation-community/ |
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| 08:42.42 | roberth1990 | zepard: rebuild the wheezy package untill they have jessie repo |
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| 08:44.00 | darxmurf | question with rsnapshot, I have : backup / . |
| 08:44.16 | JyZyXEL | is there a program that i can use to monitor disk writes on a daily basis? |
| 08:44.18 | darxmurf | with many excludes but it does not exclude anything Oo |
| 08:44.31 | darxmurf | excludes works fine via rsync |
| 08:44.34 | JyZyXEL | im worried that my debian desktop is doing too much writing on my SSDs |
| 08:44.40 | darxmurf | remotely I mean but not locally |
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| 08:56.00 | topi` | strange problems with firewalls in Jessie: we have a shell script that sets up firewall rules (via iptables) and after system boot, the rules are all gone! Is systemd involved in firewalls somehow? Who is eating our rules? |
| 08:56.14 | topi` | this system used to be based on Wheezy |
| 08:56.47 | themill | iptables rules aren't persistent across boots |
| 08:58.10 | topi` | of course, but we run a shell script at boot time to set up those using "iptables" manually |
| 08:58.24 | jelly | topi`: how/where are you starting the script? |
| 08:58.34 | topi` | but somehow they disappear... the same with the /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward value |
| 08:58.49 | topi` | we set it to 1, and something sets it back to 0, UNLESS we use the sysctl to change it permanently |
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| 08:58.55 | jelly | are you sure it gets started at all? |
| 08:58.58 | topi` | so something is enforcing the sysctl values |
| 08:59.07 | topi` | yes, the same script starts hostapd on wlan0 |
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| 09:00.04 | topi` | has anyone observed any weirdness in ip_forward value? |
| 09:00.12 | jelly | eh, put some debug output into it after it sets missing iptables and sysctl details, see if it really got that far |
| 09:00.26 | topi` | I have an old jessie running on my system here, and I haven't seen any mucking with ip_forward value, it is what I set it to. |
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| 09:02.15 | topi` | a shame hostapd doesn't ship with a systemd unit file, it would be beneficial to track its status |
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| 09:02.26 | topi` | and to see *when* it has crashed, if at all |
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| 09:15.07 | zepard | roberth1990: so an official debian made pkg is not in the way |
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| 09:38.16 | SM0TVI | Okay, so mostly recovered from my adventures with jessie. I keep getting a naggy error from PHP tho. |
| 09:40.09 | vegardx | tiberius_: Autostart is basically just a symlink to a folder called auto-start. |
| 09:40.39 | vegardx | I think you can enable it in virsh, or just manually set up the symlinks. One problem thought: no staggered boot as far as I can tell |
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| 09:50.23 | tiberius_ | vegardx, i have the symlinks setup and its enabled in virsh but it does not autostart the guests |
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| 09:52.42 | xar- | morning, im running debian 8, im trying to understand how my system knows to make a dhcp request, my /etc/network/interfaces only has the loopback (lo) interface |
| 09:53.25 | tiberius_ | it gets to the line in libvirt-guests 'while read uri list; do' and apparently that loop does the business, but doesn't iterate, and my bash voodoo is not advanced enough to understand what it would be reading from when it dives directly into start() and appears to put nothing on stdin and pass nothing to start() |
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| 09:55.35 | tiberius_ | is there a reference for debian's implementation of libvirt autostart? I spent some time searching for the documentation and I'm coming up empty-handed |
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| 09:59.11 | vegardx | I'm sorry, tiberius_. Years since I've used kvm/libvirt :-/ |
| 10:00.08 | tiberius_ | is kvm/libvirt unfashionable these days? |
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| 10:04.59 | vegardx | Not really |
| 10:05.27 | Ynnaf | what is the nfs limit on a local network with no bottleneck than the gigabyte ethernet ports ? |
| 10:05.29 | vegardx | I really like the simplicity, but there are other good, lightweight tools out there. Personally I really like ganeti, but it's a little more things to set up. |
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| 10:11.57 | ChrisH | Ynnaf: in my past the limit was either Network switches (if runig NFS over UDP) and motst times Disk-IO |
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| 10:13.34 | gr8 | ok I have removed thinkfan now, it doesn't work .. |
| 10:13.44 | vroomfondel | is there a short and concise manual or technical description of apt-get and dpkg? The manpages are too short and the docs in debian-reference are incredibly verbose and obfuscated |
| 10:14.41 | gr8 | then I have another questions, are there no harden- packages and bastille in debian 8.0 any more? Because these are listed in the securing manual |
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| 10:16.05 | netstar | vroomfondel, |
| 10:16.19 | netstar | use man and search for "SEE ALSO" |
| 10:16.44 | netstar | you can search with forward slash followed by string e.g. "/SEE ALSO" |
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| 10:23.57 | twisted` | I am packaging some web-based software we use internally for Debian for faster deployment, however when I want to install a new package it removes the old one and then the new one. Kinda expected but then the directory is empty and web-server hits an empty dir. Any best practices for possibly preventing this? |
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| 10:29.08 | vroomfondel | netstar: the /usr/share/doc/apt-doc doesn't exist. How can I deduce, if something is part of a package? I can't remember |
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| 10:29.59 | talin_ | hello. i am trying to start a service with systemctl, and it won't start. same command from cli works. any idea how to proceed? status only tells me it's inactive/dead |
| 10:31.21 | netstar | which service? |
| 10:31.36 | talin_ | tracd |
| 10:31.42 | talin_ | the wiki trac's webserver |
| 10:32.06 | netstar | try using restart |
| 10:32.13 | netstar | with sysctl |
| 10:32.42 | talin_ | that worked! |
| 10:32.46 | talin_ | why? |
| 10:32.54 | netstar | you didn't tell it to "start"? |
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| 10:33.01 | talin_ | i did |
| 10:33.13 | netstar | with "start" instead of "restart"? |
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| 10:33.44 | netstar | gotta jet pet |
| 10:33.46 | talin_ | oh wait, it died again immediatley |
| 10:33.51 | netstar | check your lofs |
| 10:33.57 | netstar | and your logs too :) |
| 10:34.33 | talin_ | any logs apart from the status command? |
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| 10:38.03 | cluelessperson | Hey guys, I'm trying to do something like.... |
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| 10:39.26 | Ynnaf | cluelessperson: gg |
| 10:39.42 | Ynnaf | use debian's pastbin maybe ? |
| 10:39.51 | cluelessperson | curl 192.168.0.1 | grep 'WAN<span id="ipinfo"> IP: (\d{1,3}.\d{1,3}.\d{1,3}.\d{1,3})' |
| 10:40.07 | cluelessperson | Ynnaf: my connection is being crap today, sorry |
| 10:40.22 | gr8 | broadcast ping: can anyone hear me? |
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| 10:40.56 | vegardx | Is there a way to set the default system locale without going through the wizard? |
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| 10:42.02 | wCPO | Is live-build still the prefered way to create live image? Last release seems to be from 2013 |
| 10:42.30 | vegardx | Or do I have to preseed, then do dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 10:42.51 | cluelessperson | Ynnaf: https://cluelessperson.com/slice/b51449/1 |
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| 10:45.30 | tiago | gr8 |
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| 10:55.35 | svetlana | gr8: hi |
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| 11:03.42 | gr8 | ok |
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| 11:15.18 | venkat_330 | Out of topic question : Just need some guidance ; To establish a ssl client connection is it MUST to have PRIVATE key. |
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| 11:17.35 | Lugal | Hello Guys, Can you pls put this into the Main repositories? instead of the other screen recorders, I have tried all and thats the only one that works ... |
| 11:17.36 | Lugal | http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/ |
| 11:18.27 | babilen | dpkg: tell Lugal about rfp |
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| 11:24.17 | joldy | the Lugal, it speaks the truth |
| 11:24.34 | joldy | Elders of the internet please do this |
| 11:25.16 | bazhang | ,v kazam |
| 11:25.17 | judd | Package: kazam on amd64 -- sid: 1.4.5-1; stretch: 1.4.5-1; jessie: 1.4.5-1 |
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| 11:32.54 | jelly | !wnpp |
| 11:32.55 | dpkg | For information on packages which are not in Debian but you think should be, check the Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp (refinable list at http://wnpp.debian.net/). Use wnpp-alert (from the <devscripts> package) to see what packages you are using that are in need of help. |
| 11:33.03 | jelly | oope, not that |
| 11:33.07 | jelly | !rfp |
| 11:33.07 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
| 11:33.27 | jelly | Lugal: ^^ RFP is how you formally ask Debian to include a piece of software |
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| 11:36.34 | Jimmymaniac | Hi. Quick question: I installed a VM with the netinst install, but didn't configure the network at the time. Now it's done, how do i start the package selection dialogues on the now installed system? I could just apt-get everything i need but this would save some time and effort. |
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| 11:37.16 | ChrisH | Jimmymaniac: tasksel |
| 11:38.17 | Jimmymaniac | ChrisH: Looking into it, thanks |
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| 11:42.25 | gr8 | are there no harden- packages and bastille in debian 8.0 any more? these are listed in the securing manual, but I can't find them |
| 11:42.47 | Jimmymaniac | Doesn't do anything, just exits right away. Do i need to do anything before that, update a tasks lists or something like that? The manpage doesn't say anything... |
| 11:42.48 | bazhang | ,v bastille |
| 11:42.49 | judd | No package named 'bastille' was found in amd64. |
| 11:44.43 | chele | ,v disks |
| 11:44.44 | judd | No package named 'disks' was found in amd64. |
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| 11:47.02 | Technofrood | I think I may have just managed to mess up my debain wheezey 7.8 install, just did my usual apt-get update, apt-get upgrade to check for any security updates, saw a reasonably large amount and just assumed it would be fine, checked /etc/debain_version after and its now 8.0, |
| 11:47.24 | rozie | Technofrood: paste your sources.list |
| 11:47.28 | Technofrood | First line of sources.list is and has been since October 2013 deb http://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian stable main |
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| 11:47.45 | rozie | Jessie is stable now |
| 11:48.17 | Technofrood | Yep, how safe am I to change that back to wheezy? |
| 11:48.32 | rozie | in future if you wish stick to given release, use codename |
| 11:48.49 | rozie | why don't you want to upgrade? |
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| 11:49.35 | Technofrood | Because I asume I've now got a half broken install, |
| 11:49.36 | rozie | Debian supports upgrade, not downgrade, so I guess it's easier/safer to upgrade |
| 11:49.39 | Technofrood | http://pastebin.com/LWRfYPFN |
| 11:50.18 | rozie | change wheezy to jessie, apt-get update |
| 11:50.24 | jelly | Technofrood: eh, either fully upgrade to jessie now or restore the OS from a sufficiently old backup |
| 11:50.27 | rozie | apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:50.43 | jelly | dpkg, wheezy->jessie |
| 11:50.43 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also <jessie sysvinit>. |
| 11:50.53 | rozie | you should manage to upgrade to jessie safely |
| 11:51.12 | flyingkiwi | ,v bird |
| 11:51.12 | jelly | Technofrood: other software will break, eg. apache configuration is different now. Read the release notes. |
| 11:51.12 | judd | Package: bird on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.2.5-1; squeeze-backports: 1.3.7-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.3.7-1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 1.4.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 1.4.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.4.5-1; sid: 1.5.0-4; stretch: 1.5.0-4 |
| 11:53.09 | chele | ,v disk-utilities |
| 11:53.10 | judd | No package named 'disk-utilities' was found in amd64. |
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| 11:55.02 | tiny | Can I fix this error related to package manager ... http://dpaste.com/0FBQ2Y5 looks like some dirs/files got deleted |
| 11:55.08 | tiny | no idea when or how :) |
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| 11:58.28 | abrotman | tiny: what did you do to your filesystem? |
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| 11:58.56 | tiny | shrugs |
| 11:59.05 | chele | as sudo run it. |
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| 11:59.10 | tiny | so ... reinstall or... |
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| 12:00.14 | abrotman | tiny: not a reinstall .. what did you do to your filesystem? |
| 12:00.24 | abrotman | do those directories or files exist? |
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| 12:00.46 | Iridos | hm, sounds like most problems are gone and I should upgrade |
| 12:00.49 | tiny | no, and I don't know when it happened! |
| 12:01.07 | tiny | if I knew I'd fix it ... looks like I deleted something at some point |
| 12:01.26 | tiny | abrotman: no they don't exist |
| 12:01.40 | abrotman | then who removed them? |
| 12:01.42 | tiny | abrotman: and i reaaaaly don't remember messing around in /var ... strange |
| 12:01.55 | tiny | abrotman: heh, nevermind |
| 12:01.59 | abrotman | okay then .. |
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| 12:02.02 | abrotman | glad it's fixed |
| 12:02.06 | tiny | it's not |
| 12:02.10 | tiny | I have to talk to you |
| 12:02.46 | tiny | and you don't know how to fix it since you're asking nonrelated questions |
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| 12:03.34 | abrotman | No, I'm not |
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| 12:04.01 | jelly | tiny: does /var/lib/dpkg exist? |
| 12:04.27 | tiny | jelly: no |
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| 12:04.56 | tiny | is it possible to recreate it from the state of system? |
| 12:05.20 | jelly | tiny: then you're fucked. Does /var/backups exist? |
| 12:05.34 | tiny | I don't have a problem with reinstall since /home is on another partition, just asking here if I can somehow bring package manager back to life |
| 12:05.43 | tiny | jelly: no |
| 12:05.59 | jelly | tiny: do you have other, offline backups? |
| 12:06.16 | tiny | jelly: yes I do |
| 12:06.24 | tiny | but I thought I learn something |
| 12:06.32 | jelly | tiny: restore the latest /var/lib/dpkg for a start. |
| 12:06.39 | tiny | yeah |
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| 12:07.16 | jelly | however, do that after fixing any underlying storage issues that caused the filesystem to eat those |
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| 12:07.32 | abrotman | assuming it wasn't operator error |
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| 12:07.51 | jelly | s/caused/may have caused/ |
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| 12:08.37 | tiny | found the error |
| 12:08.44 | tiny | operator error |
| 12:09.05 | jelly | "someone did a rm -rf /blah/ *" |
| 12:09.10 | tiny | it was in history: rm bin/ dev/ etc/ home/ li* media/ mnt/ opt/ proc/ root run/ sbin/ sys/ tmp/ usr/ /var/ -fr |
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| 12:09.22 | tiny | notice the last argument |
| 12:09.23 | tiny | :) |
| 12:09.43 | tiny | "/var/" :) |
| 12:09.45 | jelly | tiny: next-to-last? |
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| 12:09.47 | tiny | yes |
| 12:09.52 | tiny | before options |
| 12:09.54 | tiny | haha |
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| 12:10.23 | tiny | ok ... so there's no way to recreate from running system ... ok .. will pull from backup |
| 12:10.35 | tiny | thanks for help |
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| 12:12.01 | jelly | tiny: no, there's no sensible way to do it. That's why dpkg makes backups of important databases... which are put in /var/backups/ :-) |
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| 12:15.00 | koolfy | hello |
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| 12:15.18 | koolfy | is there a way to configure two network interfaces when doing a preseeded installation ? |
| 12:15.40 | koolfy | the servers have two network interfaces and I can't find how to configure the addresses on bot with the preseed file |
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| 12:15.50 | koolfy | both* |
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| 12:26.23 | ahop | Hi! I have nearly finished a project |
| 12:26.44 | ahop | It's basically a python script + some .so library (C compiled) + some dependanceis |
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| 12:26.59 | ahop | Any hint on how to make a package with this? How to "ship" this to the users? |
| 12:27.07 | ahop | a .zip? a .deb? something else? |
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| 12:31.01 | ahop | Noone? |
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| 12:33.07 | khaije|io | ahop: well, the .deb packaging format is one of the most fundamental units of organization for the Debian project ... so seems like a safe bet |
| 12:33.43 | khaije|io | there are usually language-specific, distro-specific, and generic means to distribute software |
| 12:33.45 | jelly | !nmg |
| 12:33.45 | dpkg | The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 12:34.20 | jelly | ahop: ^^ generic instructions if you want to package up nicely. I do not know where to find best practice for python software. |
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| 12:34.38 | khaije|io | sorry but you have many options so you're advised to learn about them, at least in comparison to each other |
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| 12:36.36 | themill | ahop: https://wiki.debian.org/Python/LibraryStyleGuide |
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| 12:37.47 | ahop | themill: thanks |
| 12:37.59 | ahop | thanks to everybody in fact! |
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| 12:45.33 | aphorise | Is this correct for /etc/network/interfaces " post-up ip route add 10.0.0.0/8 via 10.1.1.1 dev bond1 " ? - just trying to figure out why its not taking effect on reboot. |
| 12:46.19 | jelly | aphorise: that's fine as far as interfaces(5) syntax goes |
| 12:46.48 | jelly | whether that commands does what you want it to or not is another question |
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| 12:49.10 | aphorise | jelly does it need "post-up" or can I do just "up ..." ? |
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| 12:53.33 | jelly | aphorise: both work. |
| 12:54.15 | jelly | aphorise: but, if the command fails for some reason (eg. route exists already), ifupdown will think the interface was not brought up properly |
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| 12:56.01 | jelly | aphorise: thus sometimes it's worth doing "post-up some command here... || true" |
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| 12:58.48 | SirLagz | I'm trying to start motion on a fresh Jessie box, but it doesn't seem to want to start |
| 12:59.00 | SirLagz | I can run the motion daemon fine with the configuration file, just can't use the init scripts to start motion |
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| 13:00.19 | deepy | How do I compare two directories? I want to see which files are identical (ignoring any whitespace differences) |
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| 13:01.07 | jelly | deepy: text files? diff has options for recursion and whitespace |
| 13:01.24 | deepy | I can't figure out how to get diff to only show the ones that are identical |
| 13:02.05 | jelly | so get a list of the different ones, then subtract them from the complete list |
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| 13:02.53 | agric0la | jelly, so what are you doing? |
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| 13:03.59 | Jimmymaniac | For the record and other people in trouble, if you don't configure the network on the install, it will not create a correct sources.list, which will not make tasksel happy |
| 13:04.12 | Jimmymaniac | Now i have stuff to do, thanks :) |
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| 13:04.39 | jelly | agric0la: preparations for moving some hardware from an old DC to a new DC |
| 13:05.23 | agric0la | jelly, I am getting fuzzy and distorted video on Youtube.com do you have any idea? |
| 13:06.01 | jelly | agric0la: nah, ask the whole channel. |
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| 13:07.12 | agric0la | https://lut.im/AoFpcPZM/nlH8e5sb <-- this is what I getting when I try to replay most of the video on Youtube, it was never there with Trisquel or any other OS |
| 13:07.15 | agric0la | kindly help me |
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| 13:08.35 | SirLagz | I don't think systemd handled motion not starting properly very well |
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| 13:29.35 | brontosaurusrex | Can you remind me, what is thunar using for default-app for specific filetype, mimetype and how to configure that? |
| 13:29.44 | brontosaurusrex | (Jessie) |
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| 13:30.32 | count_ | xdg-mime ? |
| 13:30.48 | brontosaurusrex | ok, how to configure that? |
| 13:31.33 | count_ | xdg-mime query to get the type, then xdg-mime default application mimetype |
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| 13:31.58 | count_ | simply man xdg-mime |
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| 13:33.16 | brontosaurusrex | count_: thanks |
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| 13:34.50 | PhoenixSTF | hello guys, does anyone knows why amule isnt on jessie, and how can I install it from sid? |
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| 13:35.49 | ksk | " Last Update: 2013-05-07 |
| 13:36.05 | ksk | " it says on the projects website. might that be reason enough? :) |
| 13:36.16 | ksk | PhoenixSTF: |
| 13:36.38 | dondelelcaro | PhoenixSTF: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751241 |
| 13:36.39 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/751241 in src:amule (open, jessie, sid, stretch): «amule: Please update to use wxwidgets3.0»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-06-11; last modified: 2015-04-28. |
| 13:36.48 | jelly | PhoenixSTF: it probably had unfixed, serious bugs at the time of release and during the freeze |
| 13:36.55 | brontosaurusrex | .local/share/applications/defaults.list ? |
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| 13:38.17 | PhoenixSTF | oh ok... thanks, but I run amule daemon does it use wxwidgets? |
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| 13:39.48 | quarterback | Hello, is memory (RAM) Consumption of a debian x64 server higher than a i386 Debian server? What is the primary difference between these two in terms of server performance for a http server? |
| 13:40.21 | jelly | quarterback: it depends on actual workload. |
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| 13:40.42 | quarterback | jelly: If the same workload, how will these two variants scale? |
| 13:40.57 | quarterback | jelly: If its the same workload on both of them* |
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| 13:41.11 | jelly | quarterback: can't say in advance what your app will see, could be anything from 0% to 5-10% to a lot more difference. |
| 13:41.48 | quarterback | jelly: Is a x64 system faster or provides more MIPS than a i386 server? |
| 13:42.25 | jelly | in general it's a little bit faster and east a little bit more RAM, but again, this varies a lot depending on what you run. |
| 13:42.31 | jelly | eats* |
| 13:42.45 | quarterback | jelly: A http server and an ircd |
| 13:42.55 | jelly | serving static pages? |
| 13:43.03 | jelly | php? perl? databases? |
| 13:43.06 | quarterback | jelly: Yes, http server serves static pages. |
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| 13:43.40 | quarterback | jelly: NO database, irc services has some database though. |
| 13:43.58 | jelly | quarterback: set up a test system, then. You might not see a big difference at all. |
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| 13:44.21 | quarterback | jelly: Right now the server is in test mode, I'm almost done setting it up. |
| 13:44.46 | jelly | so give it a load comparable to the production |
| 13:44.49 | quarterback | jelly: For some reason it was power down an hour ago with memory consumption shooting very high. |
| 13:45.04 | markand | hello guys |
| 13:45.12 | markand | I wonder why synaptics driver isn't loaded at graphical install ? |
| 13:45.15 | quarterback | jelly: How do I give it a lot comparable to a production server? |
| 13:45.21 | markand | the touchpad is not working when installing debian |
| 13:45.24 | quarterback | give it a lod* |
| 13:45.28 | quarterback | load* |
| 13:46.14 | quarterback | jelly: You meant let it run and see for a month or so? |
| 13:46.51 | jelly | quarterback: look at logs of production server, and make a similar load with benchmarking tools like ab2 or httperf or whatever |
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| 13:47.20 | quarterback | jelly: It is getting comparable firewall attacks as a production server. |
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| 13:49.10 | quarterback | jelly: I had to run this test anyway, thanks for your suggestions |
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| 13:52.42 | tuxcrafter | why does debian8 mdadm booting with one drive makes the /dev/md0 inactive and i have to stop and asamble in initramfs then lvm activate to boot it |
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| 13:54.56 | markand | mmm, seems I'm being ignored |
| 13:56.03 | phix | goes to bed |
| 13:56.31 | count_ | brontosaurusrex: ~/.config/mimeapps.list |
| 13:56.38 | deepy | markand: try oftc or the mailinglists |
| 13:56.50 | petn-randall | tuxcrafter: There's a setting for that. I think in /etc/default/mdadm or /etc/mdadm/*. The reason is that you might not want to boot on a degraded system without a big fat warning. |
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| 13:57.04 | markand | deepy, ah yes I should register to it |
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| 13:58.24 | brontosaurusrex | count_: really, what is .local/share/applications/defaults.list for ? |
| 13:59.26 | buu | Am I missing something obvious? How do I get something like ls *files* | xargs rm; to work when the files have spaces in them? (example only) |
| 13:59.37 | count_ | brontosaurusrex: I did a grep -R search, it shows my settings in ~/.config/mimeapps.list |
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| 13:59.53 | themill | dpkg: tell buu about parsing ls |
| 14:00.16 | buu | themill: what part of "example" do you not get |
| 14:00.33 | petn-randall | buu: xargs has the -0 option, but probably a better tool would be find with the right set of parameters, and -delete. |
| 14:00.52 | themill | buu: well which bit of that example is not like what you're trying to do? the ls part or the rm part? How am I supposed to know? |
| 14:01.05 | brontosaurusrex | could you pastebin your mimeapps.list someplace? |
| 14:01.17 | buu | I'm still struggling with the idea that xargs doesn't have an option to treat each line as a separate input |
| 14:01.20 | teraflop | brontosaurusrex: did you create .local/share/applications/defaults.list ? |
| 14:01.27 | brontosaurusrex | teraflop: zes |
| 14:01.30 | brontosaurusrex | yes* |
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| 14:01.32 | themill | buu: xargs does, but you realise you can have \n in a file name too, don't you? |
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| 14:01.44 | buu | This is why I asked for an option. |
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| 14:01.57 | teraflop | ah I see because this one overrides de gnome one in /etc/gnome |
| 14:02.19 | themill | buu: it would be easier if you could be a little less annoyed that people are trying to help you and perhaps even provide a little more information on what you're *actually* doing |
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| 14:02.51 | buu | I'll just build my own xargs |
| 14:02.55 | buu | (with blackjack) |
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| 14:03.03 | teraflop | brontosaurusrex: and why did you create that file and then asked here for what is it for? |
| 14:03.08 | brontosaurusrex | buu: /j #bash |
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| 14:03.13 | teraflop | if I may ask ... |
| 14:03.26 | themill | buu: have fun with that. I'd have thought it was easier just to explain what it is you're doing so we could help you |
| 14:03.28 | brontosaurusrex | teraflop: looking at somebody's git |
| 14:03.40 | teraflop | ^ |
| 14:03.43 | buu | perl -nle'function($_)' was pretty simple |
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| 14:04.07 | buu | I suppose I could have done while read x; |
| 14:04.14 | buu | Hurray for unix |
| 14:04.25 | themill | or you could just ask a question that we can actually answer.... |
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| 14:04.30 | themill | !support jeopardy |
| 14:04.31 | dpkg | jeopardy is the BEST |
| 14:04.35 | themill | !support-jeopardy |
| 14:04.35 | dpkg | support jeopardy means: first you get to guess at the question ... and then you're STILL supposed to answer it. Commonly played on #debian on a daily basis and specially weekends, although only few people realize it. Just guessing at the answer without figuring out and naming the question is considered cheating |
| 14:04.54 | jelly | expected !xyproblem |
| 14:05.05 | themill | that's likely too, but who can know |
| 14:05.12 | jelly | or !goal |
| 14:05.25 | jelly | but that's for football fans |
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| 14:05.51 | shay_shay | I'm decent at guessing the answer without knowing/naming the question though |
| 14:06.05 | shay_shay | I'm like a savant |
| 14:06.10 | petn-randall | !goal |
| 14:06.11 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
| 14:06.33 | petn-randall | I'm kind of disappointed, I really expected something better ... |
| 14:06.41 | shay_shay | !xyproblem |
| 14:06.42 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to do proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
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| 14:07.57 | teraflop | that looks like Fortune cookie stuff ... |
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| 14:08.04 | count_ | brontosaurusrex: like this ? http://pastebin.com/i8g5PfkU |
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| 14:09.20 | viccuad | Guys, what is the correct way of having a persistent Jessie live cd/usb? does this apply anymore? http://syn.theti.ca/2013/06/22/tutorial-wheezy-live-iso-hybrid-with-persistence-on-usb/ thanks in advance |
| 14:09.39 | buu | Should I point out I already solved it ages ago or are you still having fun |
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| 14:10.04 | brontosaurusrex | count_: thanks, let me test this .... |
| 14:10.06 | themill | buu: that's great. We still don't know what you solved. |
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| 14:10.59 | FlyingPersian | hi. is it possible to change the listening IP of ssh? |
| 14:11.06 | buu | yes! |
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| 14:11.12 | FlyingPersian | how? |
| 14:11.19 | shay_shay | buy sorry I was just looking at the factoid |
| 14:11.24 | buu | Change the configuration file =] |
| 14:11.26 | shay_shay | buu ^ |
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| 14:12.13 | petn-randall | FlyingPersian: man sshd_config |
| 14:12.19 | FlyingPersian | thanks |
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| 14:14.17 | Tom01 | Is there a bash command to wait until the network is up? |
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| 14:14.29 | shay_shay | while |
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| 14:15.08 | shay_shay | you have to make a loop with some sort of check |
| 14:15.16 | teraflop | hey we need that factoids now |
| 14:15.35 | shay_shay | xy? |
| 14:15.41 | kcccccc | How to install Inkscape 0.91 in Debian? apt-cache show inkscape shows me only Version: 0.48.4-3+b2 and Version: 0.48.5-3 |
| 14:15.41 | teraflop | yes |
| 14:16.07 | shay_shay | Tom01: what problem are you trying to solve |
| 14:16.49 | shay_shay | !tell Tom01 about xyproblem |
| 14:16.50 | FlyingPersian | hm my keyboard layout is messed up -.- is there any way to fix it? I set it to german, but it isn't |
| 14:16.58 | FlyingPersian | the keys don't match the keyboard |
| 14:17.04 | FlyingPersian | (I'm running debian in virtualbox) |
| 14:17.34 | count_ | FlyingPersian: try setxkbmap ? |
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| 14:18.02 | FlyingPersian | ? |
| 14:18.16 | FlyingPersian | I'm not on archlinux |
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| 14:18.23 | count_ | run that command |
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| 14:18.39 | FlyingPersian | I did |
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| 14:18.44 | Tom01 | shay_shay: I want to start irssi, when the network is up. |
| 14:18.47 | FlyingPersian | I it says cmd unknown |
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| 14:19.13 | themill | kcccccc: you'd need to build a backport of the package. the package is backportable to jessie but not to wheezy. |
| 14:19.56 | teraflop | Tom01: are you in jessie with systemd? |
| 14:20.00 | count_ | FlyingPersian: you are not in a desktop environment? |
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| 14:20.32 | Tom01 | teraflop: oh, I have not updated, yet. I am using an old version of Debian. |
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| 14:20.44 | FlyingPersian | no count_ CLI only |
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| 14:20.55 | FlyingPersian | I'm in the console |
| 14:20.57 | Tom01 | I am starting it in rc.local. But sometimes it is not online. |
| 14:21.13 | teraflop | ah because an --user unit is a way of achieve what you want |
| 14:21.19 | FlyingPersian | trying to setup ssh so I can use ssh. I changed the listeningip to 192.168.1.99, but it isn't working |
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| 14:21.37 | count_ | FlyingPersian: oh, then I have no idea, the command is in 'xorg' package. |
| 14:21.43 | FlyingPersian | hm okay |
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| 14:24.50 | quarterback | jelly: What would be good parameters for running a test with httperf for a webserver? |
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| 14:26.23 | FlyingPersian | weird |
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| 14:26.45 | FlyingPersian | when I do ifconfig the IP shown is 10.0.2.15, so when I try to ssh to that IP it isn't working -.- |
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| 14:27.43 | FlyingPersian | do I need to bridge my networks somehow? |
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| 14:33.07 | icanolargv | FlyingPersian, are you using VirtualBox? If yes, you need change the configs of NIC to Bridge |
| 14:33.39 | FlyingPersian | icanolargv, yes I am |
| 14:34.10 | FlyingPersian | I added an adapter, brdiged adapter to epair6b, which is the NIC of the jail |
| 14:34.24 | FlyingPersian | virtualbox runs in a jail in freenas |
| 14:34.36 | shay_shay | Tom01: how are you configuring your networking? network-manager or etc/network/interfaces file? |
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| 14:36.06 | Tom01 | shay_shay: in etc/network/interfaces |
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| 14:36.54 | icanolargv | I never run VirtualBox in a jail. Maybe, FreeNAS don't give direct access to the physical NIC. |
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| 14:39.21 | shay_shay | Tom01: you can set a post-up command which could be a bash script which starts/reconnects. just make sure it returns exit 0 no matter what or else it will prevent your interface from being up. |
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| 14:40.16 | Tom01 | shay_shay: thx. |
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| 14:40.42 | kcccccc | themill: I'm getting this error when trying to install inkscape-0.91 using jessie-backports: http://pastebin.com/1Kkq42cd Any idea? |
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| 14:41.55 | shay_shay | Tom01: man 5 interfaces |
| 14:42.08 | Tom01 | shay_shay: ok |
| 14:42.15 | jelly | dpkg, tell kcccccc about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 14:42.23 | themill | kcccccc: inkscape isn't in jessie-backports |
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| 14:42.53 | icanolargv | FlyingPersian: The FreeNAS documentation said that if you create a jail, you will use a NAT automatically. So, if you need use the VMs in the same network of FreeNAS, you need uncheck 'VIMAGE' and 'NAT' options. |
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| 14:43.10 | FlyingPersian | okay hang on |
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| 14:43.58 | icanolargv | I google: virtualbox jail freenas bridged |
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| 14:45.20 | FlyingPersian | thanks :x |
| 14:45.43 | FlyingPersian | okay so I disabled both now |
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| 14:47.02 | icanolargv | you're welcome |
| 14:47.08 | FlyingPersian | well it isn't working :D |
| 14:47.12 | FlyingPersian | I cannot ping in any direction |
| 14:47.22 | kcccccc | themill: jelly: This is the output of apt-cache policy inkscape: http://pastebin.com/eKN8Jpzj And my /apt/sources.list: http://pastebin.com/3PKRWu6e |
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| 14:48.18 | themill | kcccccc: what release of debian are you actually trying to run? |
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| 14:49.25 | kcccccc | themill: my debian is jessie I think :) But I'd like to install inkscape 0.91 |
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| 14:50.35 | themill | kcccccc: and where did that inkscape package come from? did you build it yourself? |
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| 14:51.40 | kcccccc | themill: I followed this instruction: http://www.jesusda.com/blog/index.php?id=508#instalacion-debian |
| 14:51.51 | kcccccc | with dpkg -i inkscape_0.91.0+40.2_amd64.deb |
| 14:52.04 | themill | :( |
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| 14:53.00 | kcccccc | I guess that was not the right way... How to do it the right way themill? |
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| 14:54.44 | themill | dpkg: tell kcccccc about ssb |
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| 14:59.04 | count_ | I find no 'Safely remove drive' in nautilus or thunar in jessie. There are plenty of discussion in the net. I just want a good solution. |
| 14:59.21 | darthanubis | lol |
| 14:59.38 | darthanubis | pulling the drive so long as it is not writing is not going to harm your drive |
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| 14:59.53 | darthanubis | if you don't know when to remove a usb drive you have other issues |
| 15:00.08 | count_ | But it is usb hard disk, not U-disk |
| 15:00.17 | darthanubis | right click the drive |
| 15:00.26 | darthanubis | hit eject |
| 15:00.32 | darthanubis | done |
| 15:01.18 | count_ | wow, seems work.... |
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| 15:02.03 | shay_shay | :D |
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| 15:02.37 | agric0la | swatti, hey |
| 15:02.38 | count_ | ...my blind eye |
| 15:02.50 | shay_shay | i disable volume management in thunar... gets in the way when you're trying to plug in a drive and partition it |
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| 15:03.54 | shay_shay | I want it to mount a fraction of the time and then i just use the mount command so i know where to expect it |
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| 15:10.16 | kcccccc | themill: As you said before it seems inkscape 0.91 is not in jessie-backports. So I removed the previously manually installed *.deb again using: dpkg --purge inkscape. Then I added deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian sid main contrib non-free to /etc/apt/sources.list, and run 'apt-get update'. But apt-cache policy inkscape shows only the 0.48 version: http://pastebin.com/vKwg2BXp |
| 15:10.40 | kcccccc | So I can't run 'aptitude build-dep packagename' to install the missing deps... Any idea themill? |
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| 15:12.17 | shay_shay | kcccccc: you can download the source first, that way youll have the debian/control file |
| 15:12.46 | shay_shay | you can use mk-build-deps from the directory containing the source |
| 15:13.00 | DammitJim | what tool should I use to monitor a process over time? |
| 15:13.08 | DammitJim | like cpu usage, memory, etc? |
| 15:13.17 | shay_shay | apt-get source foo (sans -b) to download the source |
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| 15:13.27 | Tilgaht | DammitJim: i'm using monit |
| 15:13.32 | DammitJim | monit? |
| 15:13.40 | Tilgaht | hu |
| 15:13.43 | Tilgaht | munin i mean |
| 15:13.46 | DammitJim | munin? |
| 15:13.57 | Tilgaht | http://munin-monitoring.org/ |
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| 15:15.36 | shay_shay | DammitJim: best to do it using systemd, or if youre on sysvinit then take a look at daemontools supervise |
| 15:15.41 | kcccccc | shay_shay: OK, I'll try that |
| 15:15.53 | DammitJim | k |
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| 15:18.21 | shay_shay | i guess it depends on if you wanted a graph or not, but daemontools at least handles logging and is super simple to setup |
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| 15:18.58 | shay_shay | (not to be confused with the virtual drive for windows) |
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| 15:23.03 | Yukitteru | So, I tried switching from KDE to GNOME with tasksel, but afterwards my screen kept artifacting |
| 15:23.08 | Yukitteru | I'm on Jessie |
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| 15:24.47 | mo1991reg | so has anyone found an update-notifier package for jessie that will work with xfce? gnome-packagekit doesn't show up in xfce notification area |
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| 15:25.51 | kcccccc | shay_shay: dpkg-deb: building package `inkscape-build-deps' in `../inkscape-build-deps_0.91-4_all.deb'. The package has been created. Do i have to install the package now with dpkg -i? |
| 15:26.40 | kcccccc | (after running mk-build-deps in the downloaded folder with apt-get source inkscape, v0.91) |
| 15:26.44 | shay_shay | you can install it with dpkg -i and then apt-get install -f |
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| 15:27.42 | shay_shay | the install -f step will actually install the dependencies |
| 15:27.57 | shay_shay | build dependencies |
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| 15:28.53 | kcccccc | shay_shay: dpkg -i gives errors: http://pastebin.com/631pcP2v |
| 15:29.04 | shay_shay | yes that's expected |
| 15:29.28 | shay_shay | follow it with "apt-get install -f" |
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| 15:29.58 | kcccccc | ok, runing now apt-get -f install.. |
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| 15:30.34 | SmitySmiter | hello guys, I'm on a sony vaio laptop, upgraded from wheezy to jessie... everything looks ok as of now. But, need to reinstall by graphics driver |
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| 15:31.00 | SmitySmiter | could someone please suggest me which one's the best option? the output of lspci -nn | grep VGA is |
| 15:31.07 | SmitySmiter | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Madison [Mobility Radeon HD 5650/5750 / 6530M/6550M] [1002:68c1] |
| 15:31.25 | Yukkii | What's the service name for gnome? |
| 15:31.36 | kcccccc | shay_shay: Why I should do after apt-get -f install finishes? |
| 15:31.40 | kcccccc | what* |
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| 15:31.57 | greycat | Yukkii: you're probably looking for gdm |
| 15:32.14 | greycat | (I don't run it, but that's what I would expect to see.) |
| 15:32.14 | benycze | Hello, I have one question ... I am using the XFCE in my debian Jessie. I have a problem with muting of the sound. If I mute a sound (with mute key) and unmute it, the sound is still muted and I need to enable it in pulse audio sound control. Do you know how to solve this problem? Thank |
| 15:32.19 | shay_shay | kcccccc: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc |
| 15:32.27 | jelly | -rfakeroot ? |
| 15:32.32 | jelly | -b ? |
| 15:32.41 | SM0TVI | Anyone maintaining the PHP stuff online? |
| 15:32.47 | Yukkii | greycat: gdm didn't work (service restart gdm) |
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| 15:32.50 | SM0TVI | PHP stuff in the repo* |
| 15:33.04 | kcccccc | shay_shay: http://pastebin.com/7jstsmYm |
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| 15:33.17 | danofsatx | how do I investigate a dependency chain on a .deb package? I don't see the option in the dpkg manpage, and I don't know where to go next (I'm much more familiar with .rpm packages) |
| 15:33.19 | greycat | "service" isn't a typical Debian command |
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| 15:33.36 | mikeyd | No matter what* I do, I can't get gpgv to verify. Using info from https://wiki.debian.org/CreatePackageFromPPA, apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys $KEY, still get "gpgv: keyblock resource /root/.gnupg/trustedkeys.gpg file open error" even having debian-keyring installed on Debian. I did do a gpg --gen key in /root after making the .gnupg folder there, but no difference. |
| 15:33.40 | Yukkii | Still works :p |
| 15:34.00 | greycat | danofsatx: "investigate", or just "fix"? If all you want to do is install the things plus deps, just "dpkg -i foobar.deb" and then "apt-get -f install" to get the dependencies. |
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| 15:34.33 | benycze | danofsatx: You are probably looking for a debtree tool |
| 15:34.58 | danofsatx | I'm trying to add an updated package to a system with no network connection. I need to know what dependencies the package has so don't have to run back and forth getting them. |
| 15:35.50 | kcccccc | shay_shay: 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc' inside the inkscape-0.91 source folder gives some warnings too :-/ http://pastebin.com/7jstsmYm |
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| 15:38.08 | greycat | danofsatx: well, another way would be to install the package (+deps) on your connected test system, then grab the whole list of installed packages (dpkg --get-selections), copy that list to the other system, etc. |
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| 15:39.43 | danofsatx | yeah, that's the best method I've come up with too. |
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| 15:40.59 | Yukkii | http://imgur.com/k95PEYk uhm |
| 15:41.00 | Yukkii | Halp |
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| 15:42.24 | jelly | Yukkii: that's a really weird screenshot |
| 15:42.37 | Yukkii | Yes, yes it is |
| 15:42.55 | Yukkii | I tried installing GNOME with tasksel, then I rebooted and that happened |
| 15:42.58 | Yukkii | I'm on Jessie |
| 15:43.19 | jelly | possibly the 3d drivers do not work their best on that hardware |
| 15:43.52 | Yukkii | Well, it is a 6 year old laptop lol |
| 15:44.07 | jelly | Yukkii: does a plain window manager or some other desktop environment work any better (or different): |
| 15:44.08 | jelly | ? |
| 15:44.27 | Yukkii | Let me try going back to KDE |
| 15:44.56 | Yukkii | KDE works fine |
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| 15:46.40 | shay_shay | jelly: according to this page https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html -rfakeroot happens automatically? |
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| 15:46.55 | shay_shay | it has always done so for me |
| 15:46.58 | jelly | shay_shay: might be, these days |
| 15:48.03 | greycat | that's a fairly recent thing |
| 15:48.32 | shay_shay | well i'm fairly recently a debian user :P |
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| 15:48.56 | jelly | where "fairly recent" might mean "last 5-8 years" |
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| 15:51.19 | shay_shay | kcccccc: you should try building from official debian archive first |
| 15:51.36 | shay_shay | ,v inkscape |
| 15:51.37 | judd | Package: inkscape on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.47.0-2+b1; wheezy: 0.48.3.1-1.3; jessie: 0.48.5-3; sid: 0.91-4; stretch: 0.91-4 |
| 15:51.45 | shay_shay | sid has the version you want |
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| 15:53.19 | shay_shay | !tell kcccccc about ssb |
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| 15:53.55 | nbl | hello world! :) |
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| 15:54.26 | shay_shay | kcccccc: from the factoid, the "aptitude build-dep packagename" , i use mk-build-deps for that because it allows me to keep track of what I installed for the build |
| 15:54.45 | nbl | I have a question, what is the difference between systemctl halt and systemctl poweroff, please ? the first stop the cpu and let the machine on and the second shutdown ? |
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| 15:58.48 | ksk | nbl: see "man halt" it describes it rather good iirc |
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| 15:59.59 | mo1991reg | is there no way to get update notifications in XFCE in Jessie? This seems like a pretty glaring issue for Jessie as it seems like a pretty large amount of users go with XFCE |
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| 16:03.23 | darthanubis | mo1991reg, has nothing to do with being an issue for Jessie or Debian |
| 16:03.27 | SuperTramp83 | mo1991reg: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?? |
| 16:03.48 | petn-randall | mo1991reg: If you want update notification, you can install gnome-packagekit. |
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| 16:04.22 | nbl | ksk: man halt and man systemctl it's the same thing, for halt or systemctl halt command ? |
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| 16:06.01 | mo1991reg | petn-randall gnome-packagekit is installed, but no notifications in xfce. update-notifier in wheezy used to do this but no longer exists in jessie |
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| 16:06.39 | petn-randall | mo1991reg: I haven't tested it myself, but googling on the subject revealed that it's doable with it. |
| 16:06.39 | mo1991reg | is there something I need to configure to get gnome-packagekit working in Jessie with XFCE? Update notifier just worked. |
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| 16:07.13 | mo1991reg | petn-randall. I've been googling it for a couple of weeks now and found nothing that says it can work with XFCE. Can you point me to what you found? |
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| 16:09.00 | Ynnaf | is rsync proper to do a dd work (flashing an OS or such) instead of dd ? |
| 16:09.11 | mo1991reg | the only thing that I've read that made any sense is that it's a issue with gtk right now that it doesn't talk to xfce or kde over dbus |
| 16:10.21 | nkuttler | Ynnaf: doubtful.. but you could try i guess |
| 16:10.30 | mo1991reg | SuperTramp83 - of course I can apt-get upgrade, the "update-manager" in wheezy was just nice because it would show you at a glance that you needed updates or not in your taskbar |
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| 16:12.50 | anddam | qemu-system(1) has "Works best with qxl guest drivers installed though.", is this package xserver-xorg-video-qxl ? Also is there a way to specify case insensitive patterns to dpkg? |
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| 16:13.57 | petn-randall | mo1991reg: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757989 |
| 16:13.58 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/757989 in pk-update-icon (closed, upstream, fixed): «No update notifications - Debian Wheezy 7.6 - gnome-packagekit 3.4.2-2»; severity: important; opened: 2014-08-13; last modified: 2015-02-07. |
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| 16:14.54 | petn-randall | mo1991reg: This suggests that you need to also tick "Launch Gnome services on startup" in settings → Session and Startup |
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| 16:16.48 | mo1991reg | petn-randall - I don't have that option in xfce sessions and startup. Let me read the rest of the link you posted |
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| 16:17.24 | petn-randall | mo1991reg: You might need to install "gnome-session" for it to work. |
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| 16:18.06 | mo1991reg | ya it's installed. I have full gnome installed, just use xfce. |
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| 16:18.51 | kcccccc | shay_shay: Mmmm thanks... but I gave up. There seem to be too many conflicting dep packages |
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| 16:18.58 | petn-randall | mo1991reg: Oh, it's settings → Session and Startup → advanced → first tick box. |
| 16:19.19 | SuperTramp83 | mo1991reg: I see. Maybe try the xfce channel? |
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| 16:20.26 | mo1991reg | petn-randall thank you - I hadn't looked there. just where my normall startup apps are. I'll see if that works |
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| 16:21.12 | teraflop | anddam: hey did you fix your virt-manager issue? |
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| 16:21.57 | r3m | ,v awesome |
| 16:21.58 | judd | Package: awesome on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.4.6-1; wheezy: 3.4.13-1; sid: 3.4.15-1+b1; jessie: 3.4.15-1+b1; stretch: 3.4.15-1+b1; experimental: 3.5.5-1 |
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| 16:22.29 | anddam | teraflop: nope |
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| 16:22.59 | mo1991reg | petn-randall the article you sent apparently there is a pk-update-icon for xfce that didn't make it into jessie but is the planned long term fix. |
| 16:23.00 | anddam | teraflop: I've been advised to check qemu options but since libvirt is another layer thrown there I'm still wondering what's what |
| 16:23.00 | teraflop | aww |
| 16:23.36 | anddam | teraflop: I see my -vga question is related to virt-manager "display" GUI config, but since I don't know SPICE (the protocol) or what that qxl driver is I'm a bit confused |
| 16:23.53 | anddam | teraflop: oh wait, you weren't referring to my 10-minutes-ago question, were you? |
| 16:24.09 | anddam | teraflop: you meant the net list thing that I'm not able to access as regular user |
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| 16:24.47 | teraflop | anddam: nope, the one a couple of days ago |
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| 16:24.59 | mo1991reg | petn-randall. I'm going to first try your the workaround you mentioned and see if starting the gnome services in xfce does the trick as I don't want to install packages from testing. I suppose I could backport pk-update-icon from testing if starting gnome services doesn't work |
| 16:25.03 | teraflop | anddam: I do -vga qxl -spice port=whatever |
| 16:25.15 | teraflop | anddam: i just do spice all the time |
| 16:25.19 | anddam | teraflop: and that's my setup with virt-manager AFAICT |
| 16:25.26 | anddam | teraflop: consider I don't know what's SPICE |
| 16:25.48 | teraflop | anddam: it's a kind of remote desktop (windows) |
| 16:26.04 | anddam | I figured it's a protocol for RDP since it's used as alternative to VNC |
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| 16:26.37 | s5fs | Hi everyone, where can I find a netinst iso for 7.8? |
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| 16:26.55 | teraflop | anddam: yeah you can choose vnc too, or I believe so |
| 16:26.56 | anddam | teraflop: out of curiosity how do your "display" show? I've booted a few guest and they show a physical display of 1280x720 but Xorg autodetects a 1280x768 mode resulting in vertical scrolling |
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| 16:27.41 | teraflop | anddam: quite good, in this laptops I can pick the same resolution as the host has |
| 16:27.50 | anddam | teraflop: just like that? |
| 16:28.17 | teraflop | anddam: but do not expect hw accel or good graphics performance |
| 16:29.12 | teraflop | anddam: which is the guest os? |
| 16:29.24 | anddam | PCBSD and OpenBSD |
| 16:29.32 | anddam | does it make any difference |
| 16:29.39 | teraflop | anddam: ah, I run those headless so no clue |
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| 16:31.11 | teraflop | anddam: and for windows guest is better just use its remote desktop client instead spice or whatever, its graphics performs better that way |
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| 16:35.36 | s5fs | got it, thanks everyone! dpkg bot is cool |
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| 16:35.36 | anddam | teraflop: that vertical 720 pixel thing bugs me |
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| 16:36.11 | teraflop | anddam: try to change the videodriver on the guest I suppose |
| 16:36.39 | anddam | teraflop: that's Xorg's autoprobing |
| 16:36.59 | anddam | and I don't know how to change the video on BSD (yet) |
| 16:37.32 | teraflop | anddam: -vga qxl or whatever? |
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| 16:39.16 | SM0TVI | A question: Is there any place one can contact the managers of packages in the rep? |
| 16:39.22 | SM0TVI | repo* |
| 16:39.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | the bug tracking system? |
| 16:40.23 | shay_shay | kcccccc: that is a lot less likely to happen when you don't use 3rd party repos.. |
| 16:40.30 | anddam | SM0TVI: the email service? |
| 16:40.33 | teraflop | anddam: for qemu I do -net tap -net nic,model=virtio -vga qxl -spice port=5930 and have a custom ifup script that handles the vnet on br0 so i can talk the vms |
| 16:40.40 | shay_shay | ,checkbackport inkscape |
| 16:40.47 | judd | Backporting package inkscape in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
| 16:40.55 | SM0TVI | CutMeOwnThroat: anddam: URL? |
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| 16:41.12 | shay_shay | kcccccc: all build dependency are satisfiable |
| 16:41.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | SM0TVI, bugs.debian.org/<packagename> |
| 16:42.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | SM0TVI, well, you do normally use "reportbug" to write an email containing the respective data |
| 16:42.23 | anddam | SM0TVI: not sure, for email it's usually mailto://<address> |
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| 16:44.24 | kcccccc | shay_shay: But you saw my /etc/apt/sources.list, right? There are no 3rd party repos, or? |
| 16:44.39 | kcccccc | How can I remove those 3rd party repos? |
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| 16:52.19 | t4nk919 | hello there, could someone help me with my no sound issues? |
| 16:52.54 | du | not i |
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| 16:53.55 | GPenguin | t4nk919: please describe the problem |
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| 16:58.17 | marjolein | I'm running Jessie, fully updated. I'm confused about the grub menu because whenever I choose the default option 'Debian GNU/Linux' the boot procedure hangs just before it should/would bring up the graphical environment |
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| 16:58.47 | greycat | disable or remove the graphical login, and try to get it working manually |
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| 16:59.38 | marjolein | instead, I have to choose the 'Advanced options' and in the submenu go down to 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.16-2-amd64' which works (anything higher up in the menu doesn't) |
| 16:59.50 | marjolein | I have no idea why this is - any suggestions? |
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| 17:00.46 | marjolein | greycat: since I have no idea why it behaves like this, I have no idea what to do to "get it working" |
| 17:00.54 | marjolein | I can boot - just not with the default |
| 17:01.14 | greycat | Well, at least disabling *dm would allow you to boot. Then you can try "startx", and if that hangs, maybe you can break out of it without having to hit the power button. |
| 17:01.34 | greycat | Then you can continue banging your head against X as needed. |
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| 17:02.04 | marjolein | even if I could get to 'startx' and then break out - I still have no clue what to do |
| 17:02.13 | greycat | (I personally *never* use a *dm GUI login on my machines. I always login on console and run startx, or something that runs startx indirectly.) |
| 17:02.50 | marjolein | greycat: well that's interesting, but it doesn't really help me does it? |
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| 17:04.06 | greycat | Until you can get to a point where you can *issue commands and read the errors from them*, it's all just hand-waving. |
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| 17:04.44 | marjolein | "issue commands" is hand-waving in this case - I have no idea what the cause might be so have no idea which commands to try |
| 17:04.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | marjolein, right now you have no idea what is causing the behavior... you want to change that |
| 17:04.58 | CutMeOwnThroat | marjolein, well... "X"? |
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| 17:05.11 | greycat | Start by running startx. Does that work? If so, problem solved! If not, does it give errors immediately? If not, read /var/log/Xorg* |
| 17:05.19 | marjolein | CutMeOwnThroat: well, X? why? It boots just fine with 3.26-2 |
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| 17:05.31 | jelly | marjolein: does the machine answer to pings from a second machine in the same network segment, after the console hangs? |
| 17:05.54 | greycat | When you say "boots just fine with 3.26-2", is that because it's booting in a mode where it doesn't TRY to run the X *dm login thingy? Which *dm login thingy are you even using? |
| 17:06.04 | marjolein | greycat: startx runs, that is not problem solved because that doesn't tell me why it is behaving like this |
| 17:06.23 | marjolein | greycat: how woudl I know? |
| 17:06.39 | greycat | Are you trying to boot into GNOME? KDE? XFCE? |
| 17:06.44 | marjolein | xfce |
| 17:07.09 | greycat | But startx correctly brings you into a working Xfce session? |
| 17:07.28 | marjolein | and I'm looking at grub.cfg but while I see the menu entries there I see no clue about the diference |
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| 17:08.26 | marjolein | first I need to know how to NOT get to a graphical environment - then I may find out if startx works |
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| 17:09.53 | jelly | marjolein: pastebin the output of "systemctl list-units \*dm.\*" |
| 17:10.00 | jelly | !paste |
| 17:10.01 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 17:10.50 | marjolein | jel |
| 17:10.55 | jelly | marjolein: the idea is to figure out which display manager service is installed and running, this is usually the service that starts X |
| 17:11.12 | marjolein | jelly: does that need root? if not, I get: |
| 17:11.16 | jelly | you can disable it after it's identified |
| 17:11.22 | marjolein | Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1 |
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| 17:11.33 | jelly | marjolein: which debian release is this? |
| 17:11.38 | [exa] | Hi #debian. question: Anyone using the new testing (stretch) here already on workstations? are there any major problems that would make me change my mind? |
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| 17:12.02 | darthanubis | lol |
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| 17:12.03 | marjolein | jelly latest Jessie; uname -a says: |
| 17:12.06 | marjolein | Linux nikola 3.16-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.3-2 (2014-09-20) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 17:12.06 | JasonWoof | [exa]: I'm running unstable, and it's been a smooth ride |
| 17:12.17 | jelly | marjolein: it ought to work from the normal user, I think (works for me), but try that as root as well |
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| 17:12.23 | darthanubis | [exa], no one can answer what will happen on your machine |
| 17:12.38 | [exa] | JasonWoof: Thanks :] |
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| 17:12.52 | [exa] | darthanubis: well, I'm trying to approach the problem statistically :D |
| 17:12.58 | jelly | !polls |
| 17:12.58 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
| 17:13.04 | marjolein | jelly: from root I get the same result |
| 17:13.07 | JasonWoof | sample size: 1 :) |
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| 17:13.50 | greycat | marjolein: jelly: Possibly he/she is in a non-systemd state due to booting some weird emergency single-user type thing from grub |
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| 17:14.42 | jelly | marjolein: that is weird. ls -ld /sbin/init ? |
| 17:14.55 | JasonWoof | [exa]: lots of debian developers run unstable on their workstations. sometimes http://wiki.debian.org/TopicDebianDevel has current info on broken things. |
| 17:14.57 | jelly | greycat: I think single user is also systemd. |
| 17:15.21 | jelly | dpkg, tell [exa] about debian-next |
| 17:15.34 | marjolein | jelly: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40648 Apr 6 20:44 /sbin/init |
| 17:16.10 | [exa] | JasonWoof: thanks a lot, that looks superuseful |
| 17:16.19 | jelly | marjolein: curious. How did you install this system? Did you explicitely get rid of systemd at some point? |
| 17:16.20 | greycat | *blink* |
| 17:16.36 | [exa] | jelly: also thanks for the poll notice, looks like a correctly stated rule. :D |
| 17:17.11 | marjolein | jelly, no I did not - I was originally installed from 3 DVDs (downloaded ISO's) and that was sqeeze if I remember rightly. After that just updates |
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| 17:17.42 | fellipe | hi, I've installed debian 8 in HP Proliant ML 350 Gen9 and xen 4.4. However, when I choose xen kenel at grub, the server reboot. I've googled a lot, but could not find the solution. Any idea? |
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| 17:17.56 | jelly | marjolein: dpkg -l $(dpkg -S /sbin/init|sed 's/:.*//')|tail -n 1 |
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| 17:18.01 | greycat | an upgrade from wheezy->jessie should have left you with systemd installed as /sbin/init which your machine does not currently have(!) |
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| 17:18.33 | marjolein | jelly: ii sysvinit-core 2.88dsf-59 amd64 System-V-like init utilities |
| 17:18.39 | jelly | ,v sysvinit-core |
| 17:18.40 | judd | Package: sysvinit-core on amd64 -- stretch: 2.88dsf-59; jessie: 2.88dsf-59; sid: 2.88dsf-59.1 |
| 17:18.54 | jelly | well that look sufficiently jessie-like |
| 17:18.58 | marjolein | of course that could be just because I select an "older" entry from grub |
| 17:19.18 | jelly | nope. Well, let's assume you're using sysvinit. |
| 17:19.22 | greycat | sysvinit-core conflict with systemd-sysv which is what I have on my upgraded machine |
| 17:19.31 | marjolein | since the latest update also new entries appeared with choices between sysvinit and systemd |
| 17:19.36 | jelly | marjolein: ls -ld /etc/rc2.d/S??*dm* |
| 17:19.39 | greycat | so it looks like marjolein has opted out of systemd somehow |
| 17:20.04 | marjolein | greycat not deliberately - I just went through the menu choices until I found one that worked :) |
| 17:20.25 | jelly | that choice would have been made at release upgrade time |
| 17:20.40 | marjolein | jelly: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 17 Aug 2 2014 /etc/rc2.d/S03lightdm -> ../init.d/lightdm |
| 17:21.22 | jelly | marjolein: just that one? Good. You can do something like "mv /etc/rc2.d/S03lightdm /etc/rc2.d/s03lightdm", then reboot with the kernel / grub menu entry which fails |
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| 17:21.44 | jelly | moving away the S... link makes the service not start |
| 17:21.57 | jelly | there's also |
| 17:21.58 | jelly | !nodm |
| 17:21.59 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
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| 17:22.32 | mo1991reg | for anyone who is trying to get something like update-notifier for XFCE that no longer exists in Jessie - the pk-update-icon package from testing does the trick. I have not found a different way. installing pk-update-icon from testing installs ok tho without pulling any testing updates - aka without creating frankendebian |
| 17:22.40 | jelly | marjolein: for fun, make note the current `uname -a` output, and the one after the reboot |
| 17:22.58 | marjolein | jelly OK, I'll try that mv (just lowercase instead of uppercase?) |
| 17:23.00 | jelly | might just be the current kernel is misbehaving and the older still works |
| 17:23.05 | jelly | marjolein: yeah |
| 17:23.26 | jelly | makes it easier to put it back exactly as it was, later |
| 17:23.26 | marjolein | jelly, yes, before I do this I'm going to paste this whole conversation into a file ;-) |
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| 17:24.42 | fyls | Hi guys. I'm trying to encrypt a LVM but when I give him the command and confirm him he just does nothing. This is the full command: sudo cryptsetup -y --cipher aes-cbc-essiv:sha256 --key-size 256 luksFormat /dev/gruppo01/ |
| 17:24.49 | jelly | mo1991reg: best pull that package from packages.debian.org instead of enabling stretch/testing repos |
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| 17:24.56 | fyls | That can be because I have warnings when I install cryptsetup: http://pastebin.com/fvaR7aLS |
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| 17:25.28 | fyls | I'm using Raspbian so the problem can be the initramfs, which is not enabled, but I don't have an exact clue of what happens. Any hint is appreciated :) |
| 17:25.29 | jelly | fyls: I don't think you can encrypt and existing VG and keep data in. |
| 17:26.16 | fyls | jelly: it's ok to delete everything, no problem |
| 17:27.01 | jelly | fyls: you can use an existing device as cryptsetup backend, be it disk or partition, and then use that as PV. Or you can use an existing LV. But not a directory. |
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| 17:28.25 | fyls | jelly: So, I can't encrypt the virtual group, only the virtual volumes, is that what you are saying? |
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| 17:28.35 | jelly | fyls: so take note which device was used as LVM PV for volume group "gruppo01", then vgchange -an gruppo01, do cryptsetup on that device, and then recreate the VG on top of fresh encrypted device. |
| 17:29.12 | jelly | fyls: correct. the VG is not a device, it's just an internal kernel representation. |
| 17:29.27 | fyls | Allright, all clear. Thanks for your help! |
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| 17:29.50 | jelly | fyls: sorry, to be more precise, " I can't encrypt the virtual group," is correct, "only the virtual volumes" is not |
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| 17:31.14 | fyls | jelly: I should then encrypt the whole fisical partition, right? |
| 17:31.20 | jelly | fyls: a typical nearly-full-disk-encryption setup on a single disk has two partitions: one small (say, 200MB) for /boot, one large for cryptsetup, and then a LVM volume group created on top of that. |
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| 17:33.07 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 17:33.08 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.19.0-trunk-686-pae (3.19.3-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt7-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u2~bpo60+1); |
| 17:33.09 | judd | squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 17:33.32 | jelly | ah, so 3.16-2-amd64 would be an older kernel |
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| 17:33.58 | jelly | 3.16.0-4-amd64 seems to be the current one |
| 17:34.43 | fyls | jelly thanks for the explanation, I'll try like this :) |
| 17:34.55 | bz1 | Hi all! My server has a little problem; could anyone help me solve it? I installed manually newer version of some packages with "dpkg -i package.deb", but now, apt-get gives me lots of version errors for dependancies... |
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| 17:35.08 | greycat | Maybe he/she upgraded to jessie when it was testing at some point where systemd was "different" than it is now? |
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| 17:35.52 | greycat | bz1: was the .deb file intended to be installed on the version of Debian you have? |
| 17:36.06 | bz1 | probably not X( |
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| 17:36.19 | bz1 | (but it worked) |
| 17:36.21 | greycat | Remove them, reinstall the stable versions, and then look into backports. |
| 17:36.35 | jelly | bz1: do you have outputs of those installations? |
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| 17:37.20 | bz1 | greycat : The problem is that "dpkg -P libstdc++6" gives me "dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libstdc++6:amd64: [...]" |
| 17:37.28 | jelly | bz1: if those dpkg -i had really worked without errors, this probably would not happen. |
| 17:37.29 | greycat | *sigh* |
| 17:37.31 | jelly | !bat |
| 17:37.32 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 17:37.36 | jelly | bz1: ^^ |
| 17:37.42 | greycat | "Oh, they weren't just any old packages, they were libstdc++6 and so on." |
| 17:37.50 | jelly | ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| 17:42.08 | mo1991reg | jelly - I installed the packages from testing - then removed the repository. I know what you mean tho- don't want to accidentally keep testing as a repo. I made enough frankendebian installs back in the day |
| 17:42.10 | mo1991reg | :) |
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| 17:42.57 | GPenguin | frankendebian installs? |
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| 17:47.11 | greycat | !frankendebian |
| 17:47.11 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 17:47.11 | GPenguin | my name is Frank. thats why i wondered |
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| 17:47.11 | greycat | In any case, there's no guarantee that there is ANY nondestructive path from testing libstdc++6 back to stable libstdc++6 |
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| 17:47.11 | greycat | You can try, but ... |
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| 17:47.11 | bz1 | greycat: hem what did you mean? |
| 17:47.12 | greycat | You can try installing the stable libstdc++6 .deb package, but there's no guarantee it will work. |
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| 17:47.12 | bz1 | you mean without uninstalling anything - ok I'll try that |
| 17:47.12 | bz1 | thx |
| 17:47.12 | greycat | "uninstall them" was a suggestion made under the assumption that you had installed some NON-CRITICAL testing packages, not libstdc++6 |
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| 17:47.12 | mo1991reg | GPenguin funny |
| 17:47.12 | GPenguin | :D |
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| 17:52.41 | Deele | what is resulting difference considering only contents of script.sh file, when outputting by "chmod +x script.sh && ./script.sh" and "script.sh | sh", as I have seen second one being given as example in different systems. |
| 17:53.27 | greycat | those are not equivalent at all. you mistyped something. |
| 17:53.34 | Deele | it is possible |
| 17:53.41 | greycat | maybe the second was supposed to have a cat in it |
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| 17:54.14 | greycat | The first one makes the script into a program and runs it. |
| 17:54.44 | greycat | The second one, if you change it to "sh script.sh", runs sh (which is typically dash or some other POSIX shell) and tells that to read the contents of the file and execute them. If the file is not a POSIX sh script, bad things happen. |
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| 17:56.19 | jelly | posix mandates script reading via stdin? Interesting |
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| 17:57.12 | greycat | I think he meant to type cat script.sh | sh which is pretty silly. But yes, sh reads stdin if it has no -c 'script' argument. |
| 17:57.16 | greycat | or filename argument |
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| 17:57.56 | jelly | wget -O http://... | sudo sh <-- installation procedures for whole lots of things |
| 17:58.05 | greycat | And extremely dangerous. |
| 17:58.10 | jelly | -O- |
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| 17:58.32 | Deele | jelly, that what I was talking about, I have seen them many times used |
| 17:58.41 | Deele | and was curious if that is better way to do |
| 17:58.49 | greycat | There is nothing good about that AT ALL. |
| 17:58.58 | greycat | You should not blindly run some web page as root. |
| 17:59.04 | Deele | because "chmod +x .myscript.sh && ./.myscript.sh" is very long |
| 17:59.08 | marjolein | back - that was interesting |
| 17:59.30 | greycat | then use "bash myscript" or "sh myscript" or "tclsh myscript" or "perl myscript" or whatever language it's written in. |
| 17:59.47 | bz1 | greycat: "dpkg -i libstdc++6_4.7.2-5_amd64.deb" gives me "libstdc++6:amd64 depends on gcc-4.7-base (= 4.7.2-5); however:Package gcc-4.7-base:amd64 is not configured yet." and "dpkg -i gcc-4.7-base_4.7.2-5_amd64.deb" gives me "[...]gcc-4.9-base:amd64 (4.9.2-10) breaks gcc-4.7-base (<< 4.7.3) and is installed[...]" :O |
| 17:59.56 | Deele | greycat, forget about that sudo, that is rare case, I'm talking about piping .sh file into sh program |
| 17:59.56 | jelly | Deele: at least with wget, chmod, then ./foo.sh you can inspect the code you're going to execute if you wish |
| 18:00.14 | greycat | bz1: do them all together in the same dpkg -i command, and be prepared to use --force-* options |
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| 18:00.36 | bz1 | ouch ok, thanks again |
| 18:00.38 | greycat | Deele: "Oh, all it can do is ravish my personal stuff, so that's OK!" |
| 18:01.07 | Deele | but if I'm certain, that it is safe? |
| 18:01.13 | marjolein | jelly: with the default grub entry, startx does NOT work; with the 3.16-2 I deliberately chose the systemd variant instead of the 'default', see different boot sequence, but the GUI *does* come up as normal |
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| 18:01.35 | greycat | How could you possibly be certain that it's safe? Even if you wget the file once and read it, the NEXT time you wget it, it could be different. Web servers can generate dynamic content. |
| 18:01.59 | jelly | marjolein: did you take note of the kernel version with the default menu booted? |
| 18:02.00 | marjolein | jelly so at least it seems that systemd vs. sysvinitdoes not ake a differemce |
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| 18:03.19 | Deele | I mean, I have a server, that generates a build of "client", on remote machine I want to install it, so I need to enter whole "wget http://www.example.com/clients/clientid/.client_installer && chmod +x .client_installer && ./.client_installer" which is very long its prone to mistakes, I'm seeking some easier way to do this |
| 18:03.29 | marjolein | jelly: no (should have told me that before...); I do remember that I updated hearder files to 3.16.8 this morning (but this is a long-standing problem, I just had no time to look into it until now) |
| 18:03.48 | marjolein | (or maybe that was yesterday ;-) |
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| 18:04.18 | marjolein | also, I see no "3.16.8 anywhere in the boot menu |
| 18:04.57 | greycat | Deele: oh, it's YOUR server. That's different. |
| 18:05.14 | greycat | curl -s http://... | bash |
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| 18:05.34 | greycat | or whatever language the script is written in |
| 18:05.57 | Deele | afaik, it is bash script |
| 18:06.07 | greycat | You really need to know. |
| 18:06.18 | Deele | what difference is between "| sh" and "| bash |
| 18:06.26 | greycat | The advantage of using ./foo is that it will read the shebang and call the correct interpreter. |
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| 18:06.39 | Deele | oh |
| 18:06.40 | greycat | One runs sh, and the other runs bash. |
| 18:06.57 | marjolein | jelly: now what? |
| 18:06.58 | greycat | sh in Debian is usually dash, a not-much-more-than-POSIX shell intended to be light and fst |
| 18:07.09 | greycat | bash has a lot of extensions |
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| 18:07.45 | marjolein | greycat: fst is even faster than fast ;-) |
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| 18:07.56 | greycat | so fast it drops vowels randomly |
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| 18:08.07 | marjolein | lol |
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| 18:11.20 | tekzilla | has anyone used the 'cone' console mailreader ? it moved my mailstore into its own xml cache, any way to get the mails out of that ? |
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| 18:12.15 | greycat | Note to self: never, ever run "cone". |
| 18:12.37 | a7xr | hello. . . Which application should I use for the effect for making a screencast. . . |
| 18:12.42 | a7xr | I need the effect when I click, drawing when I drag the mouse..... |
| 18:13.23 | tekzilla | yes i made myself the same note ;) |
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| 18:14.45 | bz1 | greycat: It worked, thanks a lot! \o/ |
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| 18:20.17 | tekzilla | cone did not touch the mail afterall, just moved it to $HOME/Inbox |
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| 18:20.35 | marjolein | jelly: looking in Synaptic, linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 is at version 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8 - I assume that's what the default in the grub menu is |
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| 18:22.13 | greycat | headers are just the *.h files you use when compiling a module |
| 18:22.21 | greycat | they don't affect boot |
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| 18:22.55 | marjolein | greycat the 3.16.0-4 is the same as I see in the Grub boot menu |
| 18:23.26 | greycat | Yes, generally speaking you want your linux-headers to match your kernel (linux-image?) just in case you ever compile a module from source. |
| 18:24.29 | marjolein | everything with 3.16.0-4 in the name is at the same version number now |
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| 18:25.39 | zykotick9 | any suggests for iceweasel failing to start with "GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed iceweasel" on debian8 with IW 31.7.0esr-1~deb8u1 <- i've found several bugs both debian and mozilla suggesting problem is with libglib... but no solutions... |
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| 18:39.48 | mc0e | if a bug has been closed because it was incorrectly assumed that it only applied to an old release, what's the correct way to report that the situation is ongoing? Do I attach info to the old bug, or open a new one? |
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| 18:47.23 | c0mrad3 | does the camera work in debian on mac |
| 18:47.58 | RDash | c0mrad3, does a mac actually works? |
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| 18:48.30 | RDash | cause from my experience it always requires upgrades to slow down your machine |
| 18:48.44 | RDash | courtyen, hey I got a tattoo of you! |
| 18:48.54 | c0mrad3 | well I have seen some installation guides and I am thinking of installing on mine |
| 18:49.12 | RDash | c0mrad3, don´t... trash it and buy a regular PC |
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| 18:50.19 | c0mrad3 | RDash: well I love the slim machine |
| 18:50.25 | marjolein | I've run linux on a MacBook - dual boot even - and that worked, though it was a bit fiddly at first |
| 18:50.30 | RDash | c0mrad3, there are plenty of slim alternatives |
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| 18:50.47 | RDash | marjolein, well my experience with macs are just a huge paine |
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| 18:51.08 | c0mrad3 | RDash: suggest me some slim alternatives |
| 18:51.17 | RDash | c0mrad3, an ultra book |
| 18:51.26 | RDash | depends on what slim idea´s you are looking for :P |
| 18:51.40 | marjolein | RDash: yes - but I bought it to be able to test stuff with Safari-Mac... put Linux on it because I didn't want to use OS X all the time ;-) |
| 18:52.12 | c0mrad3 | Well I wish for 16GB and i7 RDash |
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| 18:52.27 | marjolein | RDash: I'm not using it any more now - the RAM was not further upgradable and that was the bottleneck |
| 18:52.31 | RDash | c0mrad3, some contain 24GB with i7 socketed CPUś |
| 18:52.35 | RDash | their bit more expensive :P |
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| 18:53.16 | marjolein | c0mrad3: I have a big box with 16GB and i7 - I'm wishing for 32GB :) |
| 18:53.19 | RDash | marjolein, well I had a couple of macs for repairs here at my home it was the worst experience ever... |
| 18:53.40 | marjolein | lol, you need a special set of screwdrivers |
| 18:54.14 | RDash | marjolein, also owned one for work for 5 years... and every release of OSX it went slower by 80% |
| 18:54.22 | marjolein | haha |
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| 18:54.41 | RDash | marjolein, Nah just software repairs ;p |
| 18:54.43 | RDash | backups and such |
| 18:54.49 | RDash | and I do own those screw drivers ;p |
| 18:54.58 | marjolein | I have some ;-) |
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| 18:55.57 | RDash | If some one responds IRL against me as a total Apple/Mac Fanboy I kindly ask them to die by ¨agent orange¨ |
| 18:56.03 | marjolein | Apple have a knack of making same quality *feel* better, even when it isn't actually better technology |
| 18:56.04 | c0mrad3 | does debian work on newer mac out of box ?? or any thing extra needed |
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| 18:56.51 | RDash | c0mrad3, I believe it does work 90% out of the box but you do need to do closed source firmwares |
| 18:56.52 | marjolein | c0mrad3: I have no idea - best option would be to borrow one and test it with a bunch of live CDs |
| 18:57.09 | RDash | c0mrad3, but no gaurantee |
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| 18:57.34 | marjolein | even a live CD is no garantee, but it will give you a fair idea |
| 18:57.47 | RDash | ^ I seccond that |
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| 18:58.03 | c0mrad3 | RDash: only issue I heard was that the web cam doesn't work at all, and there is no fix at all for it is that true |
| 18:58.20 | RDash | c0mrad3, you can always try non-free drivers :) |
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| 18:58.45 | RDash | c0mrad3, if the webcam is that important: Buy a cheap 20 USD Logitech one... their perfect especially under linux |
| 18:58.51 | marjolein | c0mrad3: try ducking/googling for that - if people have tried you're likely to find something |
| 18:59.02 | polyphagia | webcams are standarized as uvc aren't they? |
| 18:59.22 | RDash | I tried too google you marjolein but had some bizare general results... |
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| 18:59.29 | marjolein | has never even tested her camera on the ASUS lappy |
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| 19:00.05 | c0mrad3 | I have google a lot and then I ended here marjolein |
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| 19:00.08 | marjolein | RDash: there are many marjoleins ;-) try searching my full name (whois here will give you that) |
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| 19:00.17 | RDash | marjolein, no I meant the plant marjolein |
| 19:00.30 | marjolein | marjoram :) |
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| 19:01.12 | _Raiz | Where i can get the source code of the debian netinstaller? |
| 19:01.24 | RDash | did found some amazing pictures :| |
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| 19:03.16 | RDash | marjolein, you live close to my aunt :| |
| 19:03.24 | marjolein | c0mrad3: I tried "MacBook camera with linux debian" and the second result tells me "Face Time Camera - Unsupported(no driver)" |
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| 19:04.02 | RDash | brb |
| 19:04.22 | marjolein | RDash: I'll be moving soon I hope ;-) |
| 19:04.25 | c0mrad3 | Well that's what I have got but I thought that I might get any luck here |
| 19:04.47 | marjolein | c0mrad3: worth a try ;-) |
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| 19:07.13 | marjolein | c0mrad3: maybe look here as well (dpending on the version of MacBook) https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook |
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| 19:08.11 | RDash | marjolein, hopefully you will move to a nicer place :) |
| 19:08.57 | marjolein | RDash: oh, it's nice here, but the stairs are beginning to give me grief. Looking to move to Groningen |
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| 19:09.23 | RDash | c0mrad3: best thing to do as marjolein said: try a live cd and see if things work good enough |
| 19:09.33 | tempatdebian | Does anyone know how I can download the Debian wiki? |
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| 19:10.01 | RDash | Marjolein I hope you´ll get a nice place were ye can take allot of pictures :) |
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| 19:10.23 | marjolein | c0mrad3: http://unencumberedbyfacts.com/2013/08/16/linux-on-a-macbook-pro-101/ "The webcam is an Apple “FaceTime” HD Camera that is connected internally using USB. Tested with mplayer, it works without issue using the kernel’s generic uvcvideo driver." |
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| 19:11.06 | marjolein | RDash: :) I certainly can in Groningen, and Amsterdam is still nearby ;-) |
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| 19:11.36 | RDash | Yush :) |
| 19:12.02 | RDash | Although I am stuck in the bathroom now since my lock fell out :| |
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| 19:12.32 | marjolein | RDash: call someone lol |
| 19:12.33 | bynarie | RDash, hey i didnt know u were in here |
| 19:12.50 | c0mrad3 | marjolein: +1 for the above link I have never seen this tutorial |
| 19:12.51 | bynarie | i was just thinking about that htc that u tried to brick lol |
| 19:12.52 | RDash | bynarie my love!! |
| 19:13.18 | marjolein | c0mrad3: good luck with it! |
| 19:13.19 | bynarie | =] |
| 19:13.22 | RDash | Bynary got a new one that refuses to brick |
| 19:13.35 | bynarie | another m7?? or something diff? |
| 19:13.40 | RDash | diff |
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| 19:13.47 | bynarie | whatd u get |
| 19:13.58 | marjolein | c0mrad3: that's what you get with DuckDuckGo: less noise, more relevant links ;-) |
| 19:14.46 | c0mrad3 | Well marjolein I can't still trust Ducking than googling |
| 19:14.53 | bynarie | brb |
| 19:14.58 | RDash | well I broke the Z3 and received a M7 from a friend and waiting for repairs. Did had mailcontact that they are amazed by the encryption tool I used :p |
| 19:15.22 | marjolein | c0mrad3: you should! and if you don't get enough, you can always prepend !g to search via google |
| 19:15.27 | RDash | which I will be charged for |
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| 19:16.01 | RDash | door unlocks! |
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| 19:16.18 | marjolein | RDash: good :) |
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| 19:16.55 | c0mrad3 | well !g helps me :) |
| 19:17.25 | marjolein | c0mrad3: ddg helps me more |
| 19:17.45 | c0mrad3 | :) |
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| 19:21.47 | Pixionus | I thought -k was a standard option for gzip |
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| 19:21.51 | ayansh | hi |
| 19:22.57 | ayansh | on jessie my usb cam (ineternal is not working) with earlier version of debian it used to work fine. don't see any /dev/video* file created. |
| 19:23.05 | ayansh | not sure which package to be installed. |
| 19:23.12 | ayansh | driver/pkg* |
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| 19:23.56 | Goose_ | Just switched from Ubuntu to Debian! :) |
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| 19:24.20 | ayansh | output of lsusb http://fpaste.org/223957/ |
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| 19:27.24 | pippuccio76 | hi ,sorry for english , i install debian 8 on fujitsu a544 , the wifi dont go , at the start i have firmware error , now are solved but the wifi is down |
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| 19:28.26 | ayansh | pippuccio76: iwconfig |
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| 19:28.43 | ayansh | do you see wifi interface? |
| 19:29.10 | pippuccio76 | ppiwconfig :comando non trovato (command not found) |
| 19:29.28 | pippuccio76 | iwconfig] |
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| 19:30.05 | ayansh | apt-get install wireless-tools |
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| 19:31.00 | pippuccio76 | wireless-tools is already installed |
| 19:31.12 | ayansh | lspci | grep -i wi |
| 19:31.31 | pippuccio76 | 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless 7260 (rev c3) |
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| 19:32.46 | ayansh | https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi < try this |
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| 19:33.52 | pippuccio76 | i use this guide to solve the firmware error.... |
| 19:34.40 | ayansh | lsmod | grep iwlwifi |
| 19:34.54 | iron_0x | how can I allow a non root user to access my hard drives and flash drives? |
| 19:34.59 | pippuccio76 | iwlwifi 96547 1 iwlmvm |
| 19:34.59 | pippuccio76 | cfg80211 405538 3 iwlwifi,mac80211,iwlmvm |
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| 19:36.16 | ayansh | do you see your wifi router in network-manager? |
| 19:36.46 | ayansh | signal/name of your wifi route is appearing in network-manager? GUI tool? |
| 19:36.58 | pippuccio76 | i have wicd not n-m |
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| 19:38.12 | ayansh | ip link set wlan0 up |
| 19:39.18 | pippuccio76 | do, but not response |
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| 19:40.07 | ayansh | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#NetworkManager |
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| 19:40.19 | ayansh | you can try above |
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| 19:40.58 | pippuccio76 | remowe wicd and install nm? |
| 19:41.21 | ayansh | i don't think you have to remove wicd, |
| 19:41.45 | ayansh | however i am not sure, you can just proceed with nm installation - should not give an error. |
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| 19:43.12 | pippuccio76 | why sometimes when install a package the sistem ask me a installation cd? |
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| 19:43.36 | greycat | Your /etc/apt/sources.list still has the CD lines in it. Comment those out and re-run apt-get update. |
| 19:43.49 | greycat | I think the jessie installer finally comments those out for you. |
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| 19:46.26 | ayansh | pippuccio76: installed? |
| 19:46.39 | ayansh | gtg soon :-( |
| 19:46.43 | blackflow | ohai. I have a crontab with */1 (every minute) for a script that checks something and mails me if the conditions are met. Sometimes I get two mails as if the script is executed twice. Has anyone noticed this? Debian Jessie... |
| 19:46.49 | pippuccio76 | network manager installed , must i restart? |
| 19:47.19 | greycat | well, it's executed 1440 times a day. That's more than twice. |
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| 19:47.50 | blackflow | greycat: I mean twice within the same cron pass |
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| 19:48.03 | ayansh | systemctl restart NetworkManager.service |
| 19:48.09 | greycat | How can you even tell? |
| 19:48.23 | pippuccio76 | do, not response |
| 19:48.37 | ayansh | systemctl status NetworkManager.service |
| 19:48.41 | blackflow | greycat: you're asking me? |
| 19:49.14 | greycat | How can you tell whether two back-to-back instances of the script were fired by the same cron minute or neighboring minutes? |
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| 19:49.45 | pippuccio76 | http://pastebin.com/4kmAFBv2 |
| 19:49.46 | ayansh | pippuccio76: you can paste output on http://fpaste.org |
| 19:49.54 | ayansh | thanks, checking |
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| 19:50.08 | ompaul | greycat: only if they write log files |
| 19:50.23 | blackflow | greycat: I got two mails today, timestamped 14:16:01, each with its own message id, and the mail log confirms two mails sent within the same second. the script invoked has no loop, it does a curl check for something and sends an email if the body contains a string. |
| 19:50.31 | greycat | only cron knows which minute corresponds to which child process |
| 19:50.55 | blackflow | greycat: there is, however, only one cron entry for that event in the journal |
| 19:51.20 | greycat | maybe cron was daydreaming for 61 seconds, looked at the clock, saw that it had missed a minute, and ran the previous minute's job and the current minute's job at the same time |
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| 19:51.37 | greycat | Oh, did cron only log one thing? Then I have no idea. |
| 19:51.40 | ayansh | pippuccio76: do you get any wifi option on right top of your screen? |
| 19:52.06 | pippuccio76 | lxde the panel is down.... |
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| 19:52.28 | pippuccio76 | but on panel there is a wicd icon |
| 19:52.46 | blackflow | greycat: yes only one log entry. but eh, I made a tiny mistake, the script is not mailing anything, it's echoing so I'm relying on the cron facility to mail me any output. |
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| 19:53.26 | ayansh | ok.. sorry i am on gnome3, however can you check https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line |
| 19:53.30 | pippuccio76 | if i write nm-applet bash: nm-applet: comando non trovato |
| 19:53.40 | greycat | yes, that's normal.... |
| 19:54.22 | pippuccio76 | why ? on debian 7 an icon of nm appear... |
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| 19:56.04 | blackflow | greycat: was that for me? |
| 19:56.26 | ayansh | pippuccio76: what you get when you give wicd-client -n |
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| 19:57.06 | greycat | stops bothering to respond |
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| 19:57.11 | DammitJim | anyone here using fabric? |
| 19:57.13 | pippuccio76 | appear wicd .... |
| 19:59.45 | ayansh | pippuccio76: wicd network manager do you get your wifi network details? |
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| 20:01.02 | ayansh | pippuccio76: do you have any other device connected to same wifi at the moment? |
| 20:01.48 | ayansh | or basically your wifi router/network is up? |
| 20:01.56 | pippuccio76 | android phone |
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| 20:02.16 | pippuccio76 | the wireless its ok |
| 20:02.26 | mo1991reg | is there a way to tell if my inadyn service is running. I think the commands may have changed now the we have systemd in debian |
| 20:02.56 | ayansh | your android phone is connected to same wifi network? right? |
| 20:03.07 | pippuccio76 | yes |
| 20:03.16 | ayansh | ok. |
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| 20:05.03 | ayansh | do you see your wifi network/or any other in=> iwlist scan |
| 20:05.40 | pippuccio76 | iwlist scan |
| 20:05.40 | pippuccio76 | not found |
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| 20:06.08 | pippuccio76 | (command not found) |
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| 20:07.32 | ayansh | apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 20:08.24 | ayansh | sudo iwlist sca |
| 20:08.33 | ayansh | sudo iwlist scan |
| 20:08.35 | pippuccio76 | wireless-tools is already installed |
| 20:08.49 | ayansh | sudo iwlist scan |
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| 20:09.37 | pippuccio76 | there is my wireless....ESSID:"TNCAPEFAF72" |
| 20:09.38 | marjolein | hammock time (early today but I'm tire of debugging). goodnight & sweet dreams all! |
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| 20:10.59 | pippuccio76 | must i remove wicd to try with nm-applet? |
| 20:11.11 | Goose_ | New to debian, and after reading the sidebar dont wanna just install stuff. What's the best way to install plank in jesie? |
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| 20:11.32 | vegardx | Installing jessie. |
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| 20:11.50 | Goose_ | Well I installed it already |
| 20:12.16 | greycat | The bot doesn't know what it is, and apparently neither does apt-cache search. |
| 20:13.12 | ayansh | pippuccio76: nm-connection-editor |
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| 20:17.49 | pippuccio76 | ayansh command not found |
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| 20:20.13 | ayansh | pippuccio76: yes, checking the same, i have gnome-networkmanager.. however Wicd should work fine with your setup. |
| 20:20.30 | ayansh | pippuccio76: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Wicd |
| 20:20.47 | ayansh | remove network manager package as mentioned on wiki |
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| 20:22.26 | ayansh | did you added your user to netdev group as mentioned in step 3 |
| 20:23.21 | pippuccio76 | yes , how can i rstart , i modified /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:23.35 | ayansh | id -a yourusername |
| 20:23.56 | ayansh | your user is addeded to netdev group? |
| 20:23.57 | pippuccio76 | restart wicd |
| 20:24.02 | pippuccio76 | yes |
| 20:24.32 | ayansh | systemctl restart dbus.service |
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| 20:25.13 | ayansh | or even /etc/init.d/dbus restart |
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| 20:25.51 | ayansh | /etc/init.d/wicd restart #to restart wicd |
| 20:26.30 | ayansh | then as non-root user, give command wicd-client -n |
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| 20:28.09 | pippuccio76 | ayansh , when i do your command the sistem breeze on black video |
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| 20:30.24 | ayansh | pippuccio76: can you reboot once and try wicd-client -n |
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| 20:30.58 | pippuccio76 | i rebbot.... |
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| 20:32.14 | ayansh | ok, after logging on try wicd-client -n as non root user. |
| 20:32.14 | pippuccio76 | wicd-client-n tell not wireless found |
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| 20:33.21 | ayansh | sudo iwlist scan |
| 20:33.31 | pippuccio76 | if i click on disable wifi the led on notebook not turn-off |
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| 20:34.28 | pippuccio76 | eth0 Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 20:34.28 | pippuccio76 | wlan0 Interface doesn't support scanning : Network is down |
| 20:34.28 | pippuccio76 | lo Interface doesn't support scanning. |
| 20:35.08 | pippuccio76 | peraps i must remove wicd and install nm ... |
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| 20:35.21 | ayansh | worth a try. yes please |
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| 20:36.35 | teraflop | hmmm im late on this conversation pippuccio76 have you tried rfkill list? |
| 20:36.46 | teraflop | and if blocked just unblock? |
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| 20:38.10 | pippuccio76 | i install network manager but nm-applet dont work |
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| 20:38.39 | ayansh | systemctl restart NetworkManager.service |
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| 20:39.14 | pippuccio76 | restart... |
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| 20:39.36 | ayansh | nmtui |
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| 20:40.14 | ayansh | and as teraflop mentioned earlier, rfkill list all |
| 20:40.47 | pippuccio76 | wath have i to do? |
| 20:41.11 | teraflop | sorry |
| 20:41.17 | teraflop | ,v rfkill |
| 20:41.18 | judd | Package: rfkill on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.4-1; squeeze: 0.4-1; sid: 0.5-1; jessie: 0.5-1; stretch: 0.5-1 |
| 20:41.34 | teraflop | pippuccio76: just install rfkill if you don't have that command |
| 20:41.39 | teraflop | then rfkill list |
| 20:41.45 | teraflop | from a terminal |
| 20:41.50 | pippuccio76 | on terminal ,v rfkill ? |
| 20:41.55 | teraflop | ^ |
| 20:41.58 | teraflop | nop |
| 20:42.24 | teraflop | you write: rfkill list |
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| 20:43.02 | pippuccio76 | rfkill list command not found |
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| 20:43.19 | teraflop | 22:42:44 teraflop ⎸ pippuccio76: just install rfkill if you don't have that command |
| 20:43.48 | pippuccio76 | i have already installed .... |
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| 20:45.19 | ayansh | apt-get install rfkill ; rfkill list |
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| 20:45.34 | ayansh | and can you paste output of id -a YourUserid |
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| 20:47.08 | pippuccio76 | 0: phy0: Wireless LAN |
| 20:47.08 | pippuccio76 | Soft blocked: no |
| 20:47.08 | pippuccio76 | Hard blocked: no |
| 20:47.08 | pippuccio76 | 1: hci0: Bluetooth |
| 20:47.08 | pippuccio76 | Soft blocked: no |
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| 20:48.00 | pippuccio76 | hi sorry for not paste... |
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| 20:48.53 | pippuccio76 | http://pastebin.com/ws8GP1gw |
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| 20:49.30 | ayansh | id -a stefano |
| 20:50.33 | pippuccio76 | http://pastebin.com/8X75xfXt |
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| 20:51.07 | ayansh | nmtui |
| 20:51.39 | pippuccio76 | in nmtui , when i try to activate my wireless: |
| 20:52.04 | pippuccio76 | http://pastebin.com/ccaWNZBs |
| 20:53.22 | ayansh | systemctl status NetworkManager.service |
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| 20:54.27 | teraflop | it's me or pastebin.com sucks till infinite? |
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| 20:54.46 | greycat | !pastebin |
| 20:54.47 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 20:55.29 | Goose_ | Okay I give up. Is it possible to install plank in debian jessie? I can't find a repo or anything anywhere that woks |
| 20:55.33 | Goose_ | works* |
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| 20:56.15 | greycat | if you tell us what plank is, maybe we can read their web site or something |
| 20:56.24 | pippuccio76 | now go ?!? |
| 20:56.42 | Goose_ | it's a dock. I think it's made by the same people as docky, but doesn't use a bunch of resources/ |
| 20:57.06 | Goose_ | Sorry, just switched to debian and am getting used to it. I looked everywhere but couldn't get it working |
| 20:57.18 | greycat | http://wiki.go-docky.com/?title=Plank:Introduction ? |
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| 20:58.23 | Goose_ | I read that, tried adding the repos but nothing |
| 20:59.00 | greycat | I don't know what repos, or what this is, or anything. I'm just googling what you say. |
| 20:59.31 | greycat | I ended up on http://wiki.go-docky.com/index.php?title=Plank:Installing#Installing_From_Source and then went back to my original google search to see if I could find, like, an actual home page or something |
| 20:59.49 | Goose_ | Yeah that's where I am right now |
| 21:00.11 | pippuccio76 | how i can see nm-applet on bar? |
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| 21:00.25 | Goose_ | at the end of that I get E: Unable to find a source package for plank |
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| 21:00.55 | ayansh | pippuccio76: please make sure wpa_supplicant, NetworkManager are running,.. nmtui didn't worked? |
| 21:01.57 | greycat | Goose_: you may have to guess which -dev packages to install, instead of using "apt-get build-dep" |
| 21:02.28 | Goose_ | How would you find that out? |
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| 21:02.42 | greycat | Usually by reading the compiler's errors. |
| 21:03.00 | greycat | when it says it can't find foobar.h you look up which package has that header file |
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| 21:07.27 | daviid | journalctl -xb report Failed to activate swap /dev/disk/by-uuid/d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2 |
| 21:07.36 | daviid | my /etc/fstab list this |
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| 21:08.14 | daviid | UUID=d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2 none swap sw 0 0 |
| 21:09.03 | daviid | blkid says |
| 21:09.13 | daviid | /dev/sda3: UUID="d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2" TYPE="swap" PARTUUID="d216e6b8-ba22-4ef1-aa37-b8136b641fc5" |
| 21:09.47 | daviid | should I use the PARTUUID in fstab? |
| 21:10.04 | greycat | my swap has UUID= |
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| 21:14.25 | c2pLaY | hi all lookin to try out deb on a vm |
| 21:14.53 | c2pLaY | been a while. should i install just the first cd or do i need all of em? |
| 21:14.57 | c2pLaY | maybe dvd? |
| 21:15.00 | c2pLaY | not sure |
| 21:15.04 | c2pLaY | there are many |
| 21:15.09 | greycat | daviid: the UUID for my swap partition in fstab matches what I get from "sudo lsblk -o +UUID" |
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| 21:16.09 | daviid | greycat: tx, mine to, so i don't know what's happening here |
| 21:16.55 | daviid | hoe could i debug this problem? |
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| 21:17.03 | daviid | *how |
| 21:17.06 | Achylles | I friend of mine has got an extra 80Gb Hd, and it used to hold Windows and Ubuntu on that. I used gparted to exclude those partitions, but not it only shows 35Gb now. How can I rescue its real size? Can I use 'dd' to wipe its contents away if any? |
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| 21:17.25 | Achylles | but now... |
| 21:17.26 | c2pLaY | going for newest stable version "jessie" just wondering about functionality that's all really |
| 21:17.47 | greycat | Just use the net install CD and download whatever else you want. |
| 21:17.52 | greycat | !netinst |
| 21:17.53 | dpkg | from memory, netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 21:18.02 | c2pLaY | net install on a VM? |
| 21:18.08 | greycat | on *anything* |
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| 21:21.06 | c2pLaY | ya see that's the thing been a couple years. vbox has network functionality for a net install out of the box.. |
| 21:21.12 | c2pLaY | seemed unlikely to me |
| 21:21.21 | c2pLaY | figured it would be a pain in the butt |
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| 21:25.52 | daviid | here http://paste.lisp.org/+36KW the journal -xb extract with the swap failed, the lsblk -o +UUID output and copy of my /etc/fstab |
| 21:26.26 | daviid | I've no ideia why mounting the swap fails and what to do to try to solve this problem |
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| 21:28.55 | fulvio | Hi guys. I'm trying to encrypt a logical group in a primary partition, but I feel like I'm a egg-chicken situation. I can't encrypt a logical group, only singole volumes or the whole partition, but neither seems like I can create a LVM over an encrypted partition. Am I missing something? |
| 21:33.14 | atrapado | fulvio, you can LVM over encrypted partition |
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| 21:34.38 | fulvio | atrapado: Ah, alright, when I try to it says that there is a LUKS signature and wants to wipe it |
| 21:35.21 | atrapado | well. you have to write LVM not over the partition, but over the unencrypted /dev/mapper/sda1_crypt or whatever |
| 21:36.11 | daviid | any hint/suggestion to debug this "swapon: /dev/disk/by-uuid/d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2: swapon failed" problem? |
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| 21:36.40 | fulvio | atrapado: there it is, I was missing the /dev/mapper! Thanks atrapado |
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| 21:51.33 | acz32 | is there any way to have the debian installer skip the erasing empty disk space step before install, when you select encryption? |
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| 21:58.34 | awal1 | Too much command and utilities one have to remember under gnu/linux :) I forgot how to list the number of x process and how many process x pack have |
| 21:58.39 | joobus | what's the best pickup line to use on a girl that's really into debian-based OSes? |
| 21:59.12 | Mousey | joobus: you like football? |
| 21:59.30 | Mousey | are you sitting on the F5 key? |
| 21:59.38 | Mousey | cuz that ass is refreshing! |
| 21:59.47 | Mousey | http://i.imgur.com/sFB0sUr.gif |
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| 21:59.56 | joobus | lol |
| 22:00.10 | daviid | is there an advance debian channel where i can ask about my swap space problem? |
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| 22:00.44 | Mousey | is your swap space striped across multiple RAID members, in a logical volume? |
| 22:00.49 | at0m | you're at it. be patient. |
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| 22:02.41 | Mousey | ..on an EMC VMAX array, mounted over a fibre HBA, using multipath connections? |
| 22:02.51 | Mousey | HOW ADVANCED IS SWAP SPAC?E |
| 22:02.52 | daviid | Mousey: there is a raid, managed by the bios of that machine, gnu linux sees it as /dev/sda |
| 22:03.02 | Mousey | ah ha. hardware raid. |
| 22:03.35 | Mousey | ...and? |
| 22:04.19 | daviid | I didn't do the config, it comes from HP... and what? |
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| 22:04.54 | Mousey | oh, i was wondering what your question was about your swap space |
| 22:05.51 | daviid | Mousey: here http://paste.lisp.org/+36KW the journal -xb extract with the swap failed, the lsblk -o +UUID output and copy of my /etc/fstab |
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| 22:06.39 | daviid | debian installation on top of this raid bios configured stuff, then boot report a swapon error |
| 22:06.39 | awal1 | Ok, I was looking for pgrep. I have 8 chromium tabs open but pgrep -n chormium shows 18 process, how is that calculated so? |
| 22:06.42 | Pele21 | How do install numix icons in debian jessie? I dont get it |
| 22:07.06 | Mousey | daviid: oh man, why is there unicodde in your UUIDs? |
| 22:07.16 | daviid | unicode? |
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| 22:07.51 | daviid | ll /dev/disk/by-uuid/ -> d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2 -> ../../sda3 |
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| 22:08.04 | daviid | fstab uses this uuid |
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| 22:08.19 | daviid | so i don't understand |
| 22:08.29 | Mousey | daviid: on one hand it says "Activating swap /dev/disk/by-uuid/d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2", but on the other hand it says "Unit dev-disk-by\x2duuid-d9818f4e\x2da1b9\x2d4588\x2dbbd7\x2dde9e8623cdf2" |
| 22:08.42 | Mousey | all that \x2d stuff |
| 22:09.14 | daviid | Mousey: that's a copy/extract of journalctl -xb |
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| 22:09.40 | daviid | but /etc/fstab is correct |
| 22:09.51 | Mousey | but |
| 22:09.55 | Mousey | \x2d?! |
| 22:09.59 | Mousey | shouldn't it be just - |
| 22:10.02 | daviid | i have no idea what journalctl is doing to get these uniciode |
| 22:10.14 | Mousey | it uses -/s in some places, and \x2d's in other places |
| 22:10.19 | Mousey | methinks it's got something wrong |
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| 22:10.36 | daviid | Mousey: i don't know, for me, journalctl is just a journal |
| 22:11.06 | daviid | if the device has this uuid and fstab refers to this exact uuid, why swapon reports the error ? |
| 22:11.18 | Mousey | i miss plaintext logs |
| 22:11.28 | Mousey | because its looking for unicode |
| 22:11.37 | Mousey | because its looking for unicode \x2d instead of ' |
| 22:11.40 | Mousey | because its looking for unicode \x2d instead of - |
| 22:11.41 | Mousey | rather |
| 22:12.35 | daviid | but surely systemd is not using journalctl to start thw sawp right? |
| 22:13.01 | Mousey | i'm guessing journalctl is the messenger, not the problem |
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| 22:13.15 | daviid | sp ofrget about the unicode |
| 22:13.20 | angevin | I installed debian testing on an EFI system set to legacy mode with encrypted LVM volumes and the boot drops me to a grub command line shell |
| 22:13.21 | Mousey | i can't |
| 22:13.24 | daviid | they appear in the output of the messenger |
| 22:13.24 | Mousey | it smells like typos |
| 22:13.25 | angevin | I can't get the system to boot because I can't find the initrd or kernel image |
| 22:13.29 | angevin | how can I fix this ? |
| 22:13.40 | angevin | boot the rescue DVD and reinstall grub ? |
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| 22:13.43 | Mousey | angevin: reinstall grub |
| 22:13.59 | Mousey | daviid: i can't ignore the messenger is reporting bad news |
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| 22:14.03 | angevin | Mousey: alright but do I have to edit the grub configuration file first ? |
| 22:14.17 | Mousey | angevin: somehow. ooh eFI |
| 22:14.30 | angevin | Mousey: yeah EFI but my BIOS is set to legacy mode |
| 22:14.31 | Mousey | daviid: can you mkswap that partition and try again? |
| 22:14.36 | daviid | Mousey: ok, fine3, i'm trying to undertand too |
| 22:14.39 | Mousey | maybe \x2d is a red herring |
| 22:14.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe... but the mix is weird |
| 22:14.58 | Mousey | maybe \x2d is unicode for -, but the swap partition isn't formatted properly |
| 22:15.06 | Mousey | CutMeOwnThroat: yea, it shouldn't mix, it shouldn't report |
| 22:15.07 | daviid | mkswap that partition? could you tell me what to type here? |
| 22:15.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | of course journalctrl only displays the log |
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| 22:15.29 | Mousey | daviid: mkswap /dev/disk/by-uuid/d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2 |
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| 22:16.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, but it's not mixing within the same string |
| 22:16.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | I guess that's ok |
| 22:16.15 | Mousey | CutMeOwnThroat: i just noticed that too |
| 22:16.18 | daviid | mkswap /dev/disk/by-uuid/d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2 |
| 22:16.27 | daviid | mkswap: error: /dev/disk/by-uuid/d9818f4e-a1b9-4588-bbd7-de9e8623cdf2 is mounted; will not make swapspace |
| 22:16.44 | Mousey | daviid: if you type "free" and hit enter, does it show you have swap space? |
| 22:17.27 | daviid | last line says Swap: 33480700 0 33480700 |
| 22:17.27 | daviid | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.29 | daviid | indeed |
| 22:17.39 | daviid | would that be an old log then? |
| 22:17.59 | daviid | how can i empty all logs, reboot and check again? |
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| 22:18.08 | Mousey | maybe, maybe it's just trying to mount it more than once, or something. but there's nothing wrong with your swap space |
| 22:18.25 | daviid | ok thanks a lot, sorry for that |
| 22:18.29 | Mousey | ahaha, welcome to systemd |
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| 22:18.52 | daviid | :) |
| 22:20.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | dunno, we still use text logs with it |
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| 22:21.13 | daviid | i should empty all my logs |
| 22:21.18 | daviid | how to do that? |
| 22:22.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | why'd you do that... you might need them |
| 22:22.37 | daviid | CutMeOwnThroat: to remove 'false' content like this reported swap error |
| 22:22.39 | daviid | maybe |
| 22:22.42 | daviid | don't know |
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| 22:23.46 | CutMeOwnThroat | it's still an interesting question what will replace logrotate |
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| 22:24.40 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: why replace? |
| 22:24.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | daviid, I guess man journald.conf gives a hint to most things |
| 22:24.59 | daviid | CutMeOwnThroat: ok tx |
| 22:25.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | valdyn, systemd uses some database model? |
| 22:25.44 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: like a text file as far as i know |
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| 22:26.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | fairysnuff... I thought we had to configure it to save into regular text files... but someone else did it |
| 22:26.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | I should update my desktops to jessie |
| 22:28.30 | valdyn | CutMeOwnThroat: seems to rotate at 128M |
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| 22:33.03 | valdyn | no nvm it does not |
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| 22:44.59 | bowowdog | hello, my debian 8 desktop does not detect my DVD drive. what should I do? |
| 22:45.31 | teraflop | bowowdog: sata, ide, usb? |
| 22:45.42 | bowowdog | teraflop: it is a SATA 3 dvd drive |
| 22:45.46 | bowowdog | BIOS is set to AHCI mode |
| 22:46.12 | bowowdog | /dev doesn't show any cd/dvd looking device |
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| 22:47.20 | teraflop | bowowdog: it worked before, I mean detected in any other OSes or previous linux versions? |
| 22:47.39 | bowowdog | teraflop: yes, detected in other OS |
| 22:47.57 | bowowdog | PC-BSD |
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| 22:51.08 | bowowdog | I will reboot and check from BIOS if the DVD drive is detected by the motherboard |
| 22:51.10 | bowowdog | brb |
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| 23:03.22 | dTal | Why does debootstrap need to be run as root? I thought it just downloaded and unpacked packages? |
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| 23:04.14 | dTal | wait wait it's because it needs to create files owned by root isn't it |
| 23:04.25 | themill | dTal: and it needs to chroot |
| 23:04.50 | dTal | why does it need to chroot? Does it execute anything from the chroot? |
| 23:05.03 | themill | sure |
| 23:05.52 | dTal | I was under the impression I could use debootstrap to make a filesystem for a different arch. |
| 23:07.04 | dTal | https://wiki.debian.org/ArmHardFloatChroot says I *can* use qemu-debootstrap, but it doesn't say I have to |
| 23:07.17 | fulvio | Hi guys. I'd like to install Tor in initramfs, so to do ssh over Tor to unencrypt the whole disk. Do you know how can that be done? |
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| 23:09.02 | themill | dTal: sure, you don't have to use qemu-debootstrap; you could do it in a VM or you could do the two stages by hand, copying in a qemu-static-* into the chroot by hand. |
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| 23:10.23 | dTal | But I do need qemu at some stage? I was going to just copy the filesystem over to the actual device and finish the setup there. |
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| 23:11.12 | dTal | I'm only using a different device because it already has Debian on it, and it's faster. |
| 23:11.47 | dTal | fulvio: you want to be able to leave a Linux system somewhere remote, such that no one can know what it's running or who it's owned by? |
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| 23:13.41 | themill | yes, you can just copy the first stage onto the device and finish the second stage there (providing you can boot and then chroot) |
| 23:13.55 | fulvio | dTal: I'm willing to host a hidden service and would like to ssh in it through tor so not to disclose where the ssh is coming from |
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| 23:15.02 | kWO901 | how can i fix the blurry chrome issues? |
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| 23:15.19 | mikeyd | how do I build i386 from apt-get source... "apt-get source --host-architecture=i386 $PKG" ? |
| 23:16.23 | dTal | themill: so, fakeroot should do the trick. I don't need to actually run debootstrap as root because it doesn't execute anything until the "second stage". |
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| 23:17.23 | themill | presuming you don't care about having the correct file ownership... |
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| 23:18.06 | nadu | Hi |
| 23:18.22 | dTal | fulvio: does it have to be in initramfs? You could just encrypt the data you're interested in, rather than the whole disk. |
| 23:18.38 | nadu | quick question: that's my sources.list http://paste.debian.net/181326/ |
| 23:19.15 | nadu | will this http://paste.debian.net/181340/ 50unattended-upgrades config upgrade the second repo as well? |
| 23:19.22 | fulvio | dTal: well, having a full disk encryption feels safer |
| 23:19.27 | roberth1990 | I need a installer image with the ralink-firmware included, is there one? |
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| 23:20.00 | nkuttler | !tell roberth1990 about firmware images |
| 23:20.21 | roberth1990 | nkuttler: doesn't seem to include that package |
| 23:20.33 | dTal | themill: But, the man page for fakeroot says that correct file ownership is exactly what it's for. |
| 23:20.35 | fulvio | roberth1990: you can look into the unofficial images with non-free firmware http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 23:21.08 | roberth1990 | fulvio: it doesn't seem to include that package |
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| 23:21.25 | nkuttler | roberth1990: that's.. surprising. no clue then. how did you determine it doesn't? |
| 23:21.39 | fulvio | roberth1990: Oh, I see... then you'll have to manually put the firmware in /lib/firmware during the installation I guess |
| 23:21.45 | dTal | Oh, I think I see. The file only look like they're owned by root when fakeroot is running. |
| 23:22.02 | dTal | So you can make arhives with it, but the actual on-disk files will be wrong. |
| 23:22.10 | roberth1990 | nkuttler: it seems the image only includes https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 23:23.07 | kWO901 | google-chrome font looks blurry. how do i fix it? |
| 23:23.16 | dTal | fulvio: if you are relying on what "feels safer" as your guide, then I hope this business proposition isn't too risky |
| 23:23.24 | roberth1990 | the page where you can download the images, links to this page: https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 23:23.46 | roberth1990 | which only points to https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 23:24.14 | Mousey | apt-get install firmware-nonfree |
| 23:24.20 | fulvio | dTal: there are many reasons why a full disk encryption is safer than just encrypt a thing here and there that you find important, thought I did not need to elaborate it too much :) |
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| 23:25.44 | dTal | fulvio: well, if you insist on the whole OS, chrooting into an encrypted image shouldn't be too much worse than booting it directly |
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| 23:29.31 | fulvio | dTal: but with chroot I could not unencrypt anything outside it, is that right? Maybe I misunderstood your hint |
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| 23:31.30 | dTal | fulvio: yes, but both Tor and SSH (including the key) need to be unencrypted anyway, because you're proposing to provide the decryption key over Tor and SSH :) |
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| 23:32.45 | nadu | or do I need to set the distro ID for c=rpi2 as well? It's not 100% clear from the comments :) |
| 23:32.49 | kWO901 | I have a blurry chrome issue. help |
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| 23:37.14 | fulvio | Would just be a normal ssh with dropbear in /boot, but with the added encryption layers of Tor. I could use torsocks to just hide where the traffic is coming from, but I didn't want to bind the IP to a DNS and open the router ports, if possible. |
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