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| 00:29.44 | roberth1990 | when using the installer cd with non-free firmware, is the firmware used during install, installed on the system? |
| 00:30.55 | p0wersploit | I might be misunderstanding the question but I think that's the idea, yes :P |
| 00:32.08 | roberth1990 | p0wersploit: me? |
| 00:32.19 | p0wersploit | Yeah |
| 00:32.56 | roberth1990 | p0wersploit: lets say I used the unofficial image to install okay? |
| 00:33.08 | p0wersploit | Unofficial image? |
| 00:33.21 | roberth1990 | the one with the non-free firmware included |
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| 00:33.27 | p0wersploit | Ah okay |
| 00:33.41 | p0wersploit | Gotcha |
| 00:34.43 | JZA | not sure if this is the best channel to ask but I have a LAN and I want to connect to SSH, but since my IP changes, I want to avoid having SSH check the known_hosts |
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| 00:35.04 | roberth1990 | and when I use it during a net install, and the installer loads a non-free firmware so I can use my wireless network card, during the install, is that firmware installed on my new system? so I get internet connection after install... |
| 00:35.12 | p0wersploit | Yes :) |
| 00:35.18 | roberth1990 | okay |
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| 00:35.53 | p0wersploit | I had to do the same, use the net install, stupid intel centrino :P |
| 00:36.16 | roberth1990 | yeah I am considering buying that instead |
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| 00:36.31 | roberth1990 | my ralink thingy doesn't have the best range exactly |
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| 00:37.01 | p0wersploit | I have a ralink and a centrino, I don't have the ralink plugged in right now so I couldn't say which exact firmware but mine is way better than the intel |
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| 00:37.29 | roberth1990 | what do you mean when you say way better? |
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| 00:38.17 | p0wersploit | Well..I have a very specific use for mine :P |
| 00:38.26 | p0wersploit | Which it just performs better at |
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| 00:38.48 | p0wersploit | But it would really depend what you're doing with it and which specific Ralink or whatever firmware it's using |
| 00:38.56 | roberth1990 | by that you mean not as regular network card? |
| 00:39.02 | p0wersploit | Right. |
| 00:39.07 | roberth1990 | okay |
| 00:39.18 | p0wersploit | For basic network activities the Centrino is fine |
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| 00:39.31 | roberth1990 | well mine works well generally, it's just that my phone has better signal from the wifi |
| 00:40.07 | p0wersploit | Atheros makes good ones for Linux too |
| 00:40.45 | p0wersploit | If you're going to get a different one I'd get Atheros before a Centrino |
| 00:40.57 | roberth1990 | yeah but I find it difficult so find usb devices that used them :S |
| 00:41.57 | p0wersploit | I've heard good things about some Broadcom but the ones I used were almost impossible to get working. |
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| 00:42.06 | p0wersploit | I gave up on them honestly. |
| 00:42.07 | roberth1990 | but I was only looking in the major norwegian webshops, since when I bought the ralink one, I needed it fast |
| 00:42.19 | roberth1990 | yeah broadcom is shit |
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| 00:42.54 | p0wersploit | Well if you have the time to wait on something and find something from an online vendor I'd chose Atheros personally |
| 00:43.09 | roberth1990 | yeah as I said I was looking for that |
| 00:43.16 | dTal | So apparently my 2.6.31 kernel is too old to chroot into sid. |
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| 00:44.44 | p0wersploit | Well if you have the patience to keep looking I would before going with a Centrino |
| 00:44.53 | p0wersploit | It'll be better supported and perform better IMO |
| 00:45.40 | n0c | anyone have any ideas about what this shaded vertical line might be caused by in my debian testing install? (xorg, radeon open-source driver (kms), xfwm4 with cairo-dock) - https://www.dropbox.com/s/g0ojxmkwmuh5tc4/xorg_radeon_line.png?dl=0 |
| 00:45.46 | p0wersploit | Then again...I have a very specific use for mine xD I could be totally wrong in your situation |
| 00:45.48 | n0c | (through the vsphere bookmark there) |
| 00:47.18 | p0wersploit | http://linuxwireless.org/ :) |
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| 00:57.04 | n0c | Linux ip-10-212-186-26 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 00:57.11 | n0c | err that's not it |
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| 00:58.15 | n0c | kernel is 3.16.0-4amd64 |
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| 01:05.55 | kWO901 | I updated chrome and its all blurry. any clue? |
| 01:06.35 | roberth1990 | kWO901: screenshot? |
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| 01:09.57 | kWO901 | roberth1990: http://picpaste.com/pics/screenshot_2015-05-21_03_10_11-bJN54QoA.1432170586.png |
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| 01:11.13 | roberth1990 | ah, kWO901 that is controlled by CSS afaik |
| 01:11.35 | roberth1990 | I have asked around for a sollution but haven't found one |
| 01:12.06 | kWO901 | roberth1990: look itworked fine. but now after i updated and upgraded. it started to do this blurry thing |
| 01:12.14 | cpet | roberth1990 Hi, Solution for what? |
| 01:12.58 | roberth1990 | cpet: making websites like youtube follow the font settings on the system |
| 01:13.37 | cpet | Lappy has Debian Mother's PC has OpenSuse, Desktop has FreeBSD which I might switch over to Debian if I ever find a decent howto on installing Debian on a raid 10/LVM type setup. However could be me being linuxliterate :) |
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| 01:14.30 | cpet | roberth1990 Don't you just install the windows fonts, and thats it ? |
| 01:15.05 | roberth1990 | cpet: that has nothing to do with it |
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| 01:15.37 | cpet | roberth1990 Guess I should of kept my mouth closed sorry :) |
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| 01:59.26 | shay_shay | cpet: I'm using btrfs for raid 10 |
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| 02:30.19 | CygniX | i have an issue where initramfs is taking control of network interface and not "letting go" causing other IPs unusable when the system fully boots |
| 02:30.54 | CygniX | initramfs is used initially to remotely unlock luks |
| 02:31.33 | CygniX | so basically what happens is, the system continues to boot and skips network configurations |
| 02:32.02 | CygniX | is there a way to force it to use /etc/network/interface configuration? |
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| 02:40.43 | CygniX | looks like i had a syntax error, but the issue is, why the ipv4 address work, ipv6 wont |
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| 02:46.07 | abrotman | what syntax error? |
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| 02:50.04 | CygniX | abrotman: a '#' was missing |
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| 02:50.41 | abrotman | where? |
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| 02:50.55 | CygniX | but that's not the issue, IPV6 configure due to use of dropbear |
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| 02:51.16 | CygniX | issue is not syntax error |
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| 03:02.56 | uridium | hi all .. I know this is bad form to join and ask questions, so apologies. |
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| 03:03.15 | roberth1990 | how can I upload a text file to pastebin from cli? |
| 03:03.35 | uridium | got a debian box. It's mostly tracking current (gets updated once a week). It's magically not on the network..so can't get into it. Grub boots it, then sets video mode, can't display it, and can't get to text console. |
| 03:03.45 | uridium | tried vga=normal nomodereset single |
| 03:03.46 | uridium | sort of works |
| 03:04.03 | uridium | does text console..then X (guessing) loads..and monitors all go dead agian. |
| 03:04.19 | uridium | any ideas how to get to a text console? (please) :~( |
| 03:04.28 | uridium | spent an hour googling and trying stuff that "used" to work. |
| 03:04.58 | uridium | roberth1990: can you redirect it to a text file.. then sftp it off? |
| 03:05.41 | dvs | uridium: do you need X? |
| 03:05.47 | uridium | dvs: no. |
| 03:05.59 | ctmjr | roberth1990: use pastebinit |
| 03:06.01 | uridium | dvs: it's got installed from some apt-get install package that's dragged it in. |
| 03:06.03 | dvs | uridium: Then boot it up in rescue mode and disable it |
| 03:06.16 | uridium | dvs: rescue mode doesn't work. display goes blank. |
| 03:06.28 | roberth1990 | ctmjr: ah thanks |
| 03:06.35 | roberth1990 | uridium: dont have a ftp server |
| 03:06.36 | uridium | dvs: I get to watch with text mode.. then it tries to boot X or something in single mode. |
| 03:06.49 | uridium | roberth1990: sftp. not ftp. if you an ssh into the box.. sftp will work :) |
| 03:07.14 | dvs | uridium: it shouldnt boot X in rescue mode |
| 03:07.15 | p0wersploit | init=/bin/sh? |
| 03:07.20 | p0wersploit | possibly? |
| 03:07.46 | uridium | dvs: I wouldn't thought so. But it's definitely doing something. It's a server that has sat in the corner for >2 years. |
| 03:08.05 | uridium | p0wersploit: in the boot line? |
| 03:08.10 | p0wersploit | Yeah |
| 03:08.12 | uridium | ok |
| 03:08.17 | uridium | think it's been downgraded to systemd |
| 03:08.19 | p0wersploit | I don't actually know just throwing an idea out :P |
| 03:08.29 | uridium | p0wersploit: k..frankly, will try anything. |
| 03:08.41 | uridium | this system, I deliberately don't hack on. It runs samba and an internal apache system. |
| 03:08.51 | uridium | try to deliberately do as little as possible with it |
| 03:08.51 | p0wersploit | remount read/write after opening the root shell if need be |
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| 03:09.02 | p0wersploit | I've only ever did it to reset a root password |
| 03:09.29 | uridium | p0wersploit: shall try..thanks *Sigh* Driving me batty. If this was BSD, AIX, HP-UX or solaris.. easy, I'm all over it. |
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| 03:09.47 | p0wersploit | :-/ that's my best idea, that sucks though! |
| 03:10.16 | p0wersploit | I don't know of any other way to a shell. |
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| 03:11.40 | uridium | p0wersploit: I just wish it wouldn't load the graphics payload and try load X and single user mode I assume in a terminal, leave it be in text mode |
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| 03:12.43 | p0wersploit | There's no reason it should load that in single user... |
| 03:12.52 | uridium | I would imagine not.. |
| 03:13.01 | uridium | something stuffed up in an apt-get upgrade |
| 03:13.04 | uridium | did a reboot |
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| 03:13.07 | uridium | bang. here we are |
| 03:13.11 | p0wersploit | But if you can't boot to single user, I think the only other way to a prompt would be opening a root shell. |
| 03:13.18 | uridium | yeah |
| 03:13.25 | p0wersploit | Did it work? |
| 03:13.28 | Zeranoe | Is there a package that adds "Create archive" to the right click menu? |
| 03:13.34 | uridium | can't do anything. Wish the network worked. |
| 03:14.15 | p0wersploit | Did you at least get access? Maybe from there you can disable X. |
| 03:14.24 | uridium | no access |
| 03:14.28 | uridium | put a screen and keyboard on it |
| 03:14.32 | p0wersploit | Oh :( |
| 03:14.36 | uridium | made it boot single from grub. |
| 03:14.43 | uridium | get dmesg text splatter |
| 03:14.44 | uridium | yay |
| 03:14.45 | uridium | oh |
| 03:14.48 | uridium | now it pops video mode |
| 03:14.50 | uridium | bam |
| 03:14.52 | uridium | inaccessible |
| 03:14.59 | uridium | can't ctrl+alt+F1..F4 either |
| 03:15.02 | p0wersploit | init=/bin/sh opened video mode? |
| 03:15.04 | uridium | no LAN |
| 03:15.06 | uridium | no |
| 03:15.09 | uridium | trying it now |
| 03:15.12 | p0wersploit | Oh :P |
| 03:16.31 | p0wersploit | I've seen a dumb Ubuntu use GUI in recovery...never anything else >_> very weird |
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| 03:20.17 | toeshred | #python tells me that the python3 package in debian has broke the functionality of the venv module (to create virtual environments). is there a dependency to fix this, or should i manually download and install python3? |
| 03:21.28 | toeshred | something about excluding "ensurepip" |
| 03:21.36 | p0wersploit | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=732703 |
| 03:21.38 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/732703 in python3.4 (closed): «python3.4: cannot create a virtualenv»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-12-20; last modified: 2014-09-09. |
| 03:21.55 | toeshred | which is why I get the following error when trying to create a virtualenv: Error: Command '['/home/chris/project1/bin/python3', '-Im', 'ensurepip', '--upgrade', '--default-pip']' returned non-zero exit status 1 |
| 03:23.00 | p0wersploit | Go to that bug report. |
| 03:25.35 | toeshred | ty p0wersploit. reading it all now. |
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| 04:14.42 | uridium | p0wersploit: *hugs* got it back. Perfect storm. SOme network connection manager b0rked it's install, the param "nomodeset" was dropped from the grub config default |
| 04:14.46 | uridium | thanks :) |
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| 04:16.50 | p0wersploit | YAY! |
| 04:16.54 | p0wersploit | Glad to hear it! |
| 04:17.36 | phix | woooo! |
| 04:17.50 | dvs | booooo! |
| 04:18.10 | phix | hai dvs! |
| 04:18.14 | phix | Lets Debian! |
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| 04:30.32 | innmalint | Has anyone done a UEFI install of jessie? I'm on my second attempt, first was a complete no-go, not even a bootloader. |
| 04:31.03 | shay_shay | works for me |
| 04:31.53 | innmalint | ..and the second one as well. Strange. Did you do anything special besides setup an ESP partition in the installer? |
| 04:32.34 | shay_shay | esp partition on gpt disk label |
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| 05:23.26 | agric0la | hi |
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| 05:35.14 | polyphagia | hi agric0la |
| 05:35.44 | agric0la | polyphagia, What's up? I am having a strange issue with Youtube on Iceweasal are you facing the same issue? |
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| 05:36.20 | polyphagia | which issue |
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| 05:47.09 | agric0la | polyphagia, youtube.com videos are fuzzy and distorted especially when I replay them (99 percent time) |
| 05:47.19 | polyphagia | oh strange |
| 05:47.30 | polyphagia | i use youtube-dl and stream them |
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| 05:47.52 | agric0la | polyphagia, photo evidence supporting my argument : https://lut.im/RLgV0igd/GSMPLFoU |
| 05:48.11 | agric0la | polyphagia, how can you stream videos using youtube-dl? |
| 05:48.18 | polyphagia | with mpv agric0la |
| 05:48.32 | polyphagia | if you have mpv installed you can use mpv 'youtube-link' and it uses youtube-dl |
| 05:48.35 | polyphagia | if installed |
| 05:48.46 | polyphagia | or you can use youtube-dl with the -g flag to get a url |
| 05:49.13 | polyphagia | i don't want to run flash and youtube-dl supports hundreds of sites :P |
| 05:49.15 | agric0la | polyphagia, should I install mpv right now? |
| 05:49.26 | polyphagia | yeah i recommend getting youtube-dl w/ pip and mpv from the repos |
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| 05:50.07 | agric0la | polyphagia, I don't have flash installed too, but it was fine in Trisquel but it ain't fine in Debian maybe cause of older version of Firefox |
| 05:50.45 | polyphagia | probably |
| 05:50.48 | polyphagia | you can try spoofing the user agent |
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| 05:51.16 | agric0la | I would get the latest Iceweasel from backports when it is availble for Jessie |
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| 05:56.49 | toeshred | I had a question earlier about getting the venv module in python3 working, but Debian's python3 lacks ensurepip. The answer is to install the python3-venv package to allow it to work normally. This package is not installed as a dependency for pythn3 by default. |
| 05:56.55 | jelly | agric0la: or use chromium with pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
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| 05:57.26 | ARYAN1488 | ask yourself... if other races were as good as white people then how come white people are better than them intellectually... how come niggers haven't contributed to society since inventing the spear? |
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| 05:58.40 | agric0la | jelly, youtube is html5 by default now |
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| 05:59.16 | jelly | even better |
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| 06:00.06 | agric0la | jelly, but I am still getting those bugs? which were not there in fully free browser called Abrowser, it is the version of Core Firefox I guess |
| 06:00.08 | jelly | one assumes chrome people would make sure it worked well with their own service |
| 06:00.41 | agric0la | but I don't use Chrome |
| 06:01.16 | jelly | agric0la: but did you try chromium or chrome at all? |
| 06:01.30 | jelly | it's not a bugfix, but it might be a workaround |
| 06:01.54 | agric0la | jelly, I don't use anything but custom Firefox |
| 06:01.57 | agric0la | or Firefox |
| 06:02.12 | agric0la | Iceweasel is provided by Debian for a reason |
| 06:02.22 | agric0la | Abrowser is provided by Trisquel for a reason |
| 06:02.43 | agric0la | Why not people just Ubuntu with Flash and all? Because we have people who like Debian and Trisquel for reasons |
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| 06:02.51 | jelly | I don't know anything about Trisquel, sorry |
| 06:03.04 | agric0la | jelly, its Fully Free Ubuntu 14.04 |
| 06:03.11 | agric0la | just like Debian with Main repo |
| 06:03.18 | agric0la | Debian is not Ubuntu though |
| 06:03.20 | jelly | agric0la: chromium is in debian main. |
| 06:03.21 | agric0la | its original |
| 06:03.29 | agric0la | jelly, ok I would try it right now |
| 06:03.52 | agric0la | although I never preferred it because it uses non-free google stores |
| 06:03.55 | agric0la | and services |
| 06:03.58 | toeshred | Debian is a rectangle, and Ubuntu is a square. |
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| 06:04.09 | toeshred | All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares. |
| 06:04.29 | jelly | toeshred: except ubuntu isn't debian |
| 06:04.54 | toeshred | it is based on debian still |
| 06:04.58 | jelly | it's a rectangle with a triangle on top |
| 06:05.12 | toeshred | what works for debian generally will work for ubuntu. but not vice-versa. |
| 06:05.19 | jelly | !based on debian |
| 06:05.20 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 06:05.35 | jelly | toeshred: not even that is true, or optimal in many cases |
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| 06:05.59 | cluelessperson | dpkg: I appreciate your using the term "clueless" in a negative context. Asshole. |
| 06:05.59 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, cluelessperson |
| 06:06.13 | cluelessperson | tackles dpkg |
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| 06:06.36 | cluelessperson | Mother******** |
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| 06:06.50 | jelly | cluelessperson: please argue with the bot in private! |
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| 06:07.24 | toeshred | throw the bot some illogical sentences, like 'true is false' |
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| 06:08.15 | cluelessperson | dpkg: Your mom is very good at sucking. I'm dragging her all over the carpet right now. God she's noisy. |
| 06:08.16 | dpkg | okay, cluelessperson |
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| 06:08.52 | jelly | cluelessperson: that's quite enough of that |
| 06:08.55 | SirLagz | blinks |
| 06:09.22 | agric0la | jelly, do you support the people who are trying to develop a SystemD free Debian? |
| 06:09.45 | cluelessperson | Don't be jelly dawg. (okay okay, I just had to let that out) |
| 06:11.03 | toeshred | dontcha mean "systemd"? |
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| 06:11.50 | jelly | agric0la: "support" can have many meanings. I don't think any can apply at this point. |
| 06:12.33 | arafangion | Where can I find the documentation for using apt? I have the first debian DVD, and I'd like to copy all the files from it and use it as a personal apt repository. I do not have internet access on this box at the moment (irc'ing from my phone at the moment) |
| 06:12.40 | agric0la | toeshred, yep |
| 06:12.41 | agric0la | jelly, ok |
| 06:12.42 | jelly | agric0la: I don't give them money or help in one of their channels or have submitted code or documentation to devuan, if that's the project you're referring to. |
| 06:12.57 | agric0la | jelly, Chromium is still fully Google Bloatware |
| 06:13.17 | jelly | agric0la: I don't know what that means. |
| 06:13.45 | arafangion | agric0la: If you're worried about bloat, try links2, or lynx if that's too much. |
| 06:13.57 | agric0la | arafangion, but Iceweasel is just as fine |
| 06:14.02 | toeshred | arafangion: should be able to uncomment the "deb cdrom" lines in your /etc/apt/source.list file. |
| 06:14.11 | agric0la | jelly, it means it has Google Services etc |
| 06:14.13 | arafangion | toeshred: Then I have *no* apt sources! |
| 06:14.30 | arafangion | agric0la: We clearly have a different understanding of 'bloat'. |
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| 06:14.33 | jelly | agric0la: yes, if you log in and allow it to use them. |
| 06:14.51 | agric0la | ya |
| 06:15.04 | agric0la | arafangion, ok what is your meaning for bloatware? |
| 06:15.06 | jelly | agric0la: much like iceweasel has mozilla sync, if you allow it to use it. |
| 06:15.13 | agric0la | ok |
| 06:15.43 | agric0la | but Mozilla Foundation and Google Inc have different aims and model for the privacy of your data |
| 06:15.58 | jelly | your question was about youtube playing, not " aims and model for the privacy of your data" |
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| 06:16.15 | arafangion | agric0la: I find iceweasle to be unneccessarily slow and well, bloated. |
| 06:16.45 | jelly | agric0la: I don't think the latter is within scope of this channel. |
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| 06:17.07 | agric0la | jelly, I understand that is why I said I don't use Chromium |
| 06:17.15 | agric0la | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:17.45 | agric0la | yay I am updating Youtube-dl |
| 06:17.50 | arafangion | toeshred: What I've done was loop mount the .iso image, but it doesn't seem to be completely compatible. Doing an update reports that it Ign quite a few files, including "squeeze Release.gps", "squeeze/contrib i386 Packages", and the like. |
| 06:17.58 | zigurat | Hi guys, we are having issues with 128.31.0.66 debian mirror from http.debian.net. This is going on for at least 3-4 days. What's going on? |
| 06:18.09 | agric0la | arafangion, Iceweasel is slow? I did not know |
| 06:19.01 | toeshred | arafangion: i've exhausted my ideas already unfortunately. i've never done what you are trying to do. |
| 06:19.38 | arafangion | toeshred: Fair enough. It's difficult to find _clear_ documentation regarding this particular edge case. |
| 06:20.05 | jelly | zigurat: hmm, 128.31.0.66 _is_ http.debian.net... it works from here, how does it fail for you? |
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| 06:20.18 | jelly | dpkg, tell zigurat about which hdn |
| 06:20.37 | zigurat | Err http://http.debian.net wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages 500 Internal Server Error [IP: 128.31.0.66 80] |
| 06:21.10 | jelly | zigurat: I don't think http.debian.net carries security.debian.org repos. |
| 06:21.14 | jelly | !wheezy sources.list |
| 06:21.14 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 06:21.46 | toeshred | arafangion: i think as time goes on, it will be even more difficult to find documentation on this sort of thing. having no internet is becoming more and more rare. |
| 06:21.53 | jelly | zigurat: ^^ note that wheezy/updates are NOT managed by "httpredir.debian.org" (new name for http.debian.net) |
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| 06:22.36 | zigurat | How come I dont get the error on the other 2 hits 176.9.184.93 5.153.231.35 |
| 06:23.12 | klys | are you sure it says updates/main |
| 06:23.40 | jelly | zigurat: no idea, but can you try fixing your sources.list first? |
| 06:25.16 | jelly | it might be one of the hdn nodes has older code. Still I don't think you're supposed to access security repo fixes over it. |
| 06:26.08 | jelly | klys: that's normal output for apt-get update... eg: Hit http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main amd64 Packages |
| 06:26.23 | klys | k |
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| 06:30.05 | agric0la | jelly, arafangion many have confirmed that it could be gstreamer issue, since debian compiles it against 1.0 and mozilla uses 0.10 |
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| 06:31.32 | zigurat | This is what I have |
| 06:31.37 | zigurat | deb http://http.debian.net/debian-security/ wheezy/updates main |
| 06:32.27 | klys | there is only the one mirror of debian-security anyway |
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| 06:32.56 | popicool | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:32.59 | popicool | sorry |
| 06:33.11 | jelly | klys: well, there are 3-4 but they're all reachable via the same dns A or AAAA record |
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| 06:34.27 | jelly | zigurat: use what dpkg bot suggested instead, and try again. Let's see if it only errors out with security, or with other repos as well. |
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| 06:35.03 | zigurat | ah ok |
| 06:35.04 | zigurat | thx |
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| 06:35.16 | zigurat | sorry for the multine :D |
| 06:35.17 | agric0la | Where can I report a Iceweasel bug with photographic evidence? |
| 06:35.41 | jelly | !reportbug |
| 06:35.41 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 06:36.35 | jelly | agric0la: just upload the image somewhere and link it in your bug report. Look at existing reports for iceweasel to see if someone's already filed the same issue. |
| 06:37.52 | Deele | is there a way to find all files with specific extension and chmod them? |
| 06:38.23 | klys | deele, ls *.zip; chmod -x *.zip |
| 06:38.55 | jelly | Deele: recursively or within a single directory? |
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| 06:39.10 | jelly | Deele: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind#Actions_in_bulk:_xargs.2C_-print0_and_-exec_.2B- |
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| 06:39.17 | agric0la | ok |
| 06:40.15 | jelly | Deele: so... as the page suggests, something like: find . -name '*.temp' -print0 | xargs -0 chmod 0644 |
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| 06:41.09 | klys | also: find path/to -type f | while read f; do echo $f; done |
| 06:41.25 | jelly | no. Don't do that. |
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| 06:43.41 | jelly | klys: there's at least two errors in that, maybe more, #bash will be happy to explain why find | without -print0 and unquoted $f are dangerous. |
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| 06:43.59 | klys | yeah do "#f" |
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| 06:44.07 | klys | er, "$f" |
| 06:44.07 | jelly | sigh. |
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| 07:10.12 | ahop | Is thre a way to display more info than : |
| 07:10.25 | ahop | $ apt-cache search pyaudio |
| 07:10.25 | ahop | python-pyaudio - Python bindings for PortAudio v19 |
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| 07:10.40 | ahop | i.e. exact version of the package etc. |
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| 07:11.40 | ahop | More generally, how to have more infos than apt-cache search ... |
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| 07:13.26 | Deele | I am writing bash script and calling it like "my/project> ./sub/dir/script.sh" and it look like it has path relative to script dir "my/project/sub/dir". how can I make it run from my current dir "my/project"? |
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| 07:15.49 | SirLagz | ahop: apt-cache show pyaudio |
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| 07:17.30 | ahop | SirLagz: thanks! |
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| 07:30.59 | ahop | SirLagz: how to know who submitted a package (avialable with apt-get) to official repo? |
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| 07:31.18 | ahop | Can I get his email? (To ask if a new version is possible, because slitghly outdated!) |
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| 07:32.01 | arafangion | delYsid: That depends on the script, but it's generally easier for bash scripts to be relative to the current dir in the first place. |
| 07:33.28 | SirLagz | ahop: no idea. |
| 07:33.41 | SirLagz | ahop: the maintainer would probably be the best person to talk to though |
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| 07:36.27 | telmac | I'm having this super weird problem |
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| 07:36.56 | telmac | I'm running a multiple monitor setup with i3 |
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| 07:38.24 | telmac | http://i.imgur.com/uYBW4SQ.jpg |
| 07:38.33 | agric0la | telmac, So? You want an award? |
| 07:38.45 | telmac | it's not really obvious from the way scrot takes pictures of multiple monitors |
| 07:39.03 | arafangion | telmac: Easy to fix with a device known as a "camera". |
| 07:39.14 | telmac | the right most like, 4 pixels or something of that window is visible on the right monitor |
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| 07:40.55 | arafangion | telmac: That would be a theme issue / windowmanager issue. I've no idea why, but multiple multiple monitors in linux have always been quirky. (They're quirky in every OS, it seems - but especailly so in linux) |
| 07:41.14 | telmac | my phone is shit, one second |
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| 07:41.54 | arafangion | telmac: I'm not myself today - don't worry about the camera, I think we already know what your issue is - assuming that it is indeed the theme |
| 07:42.15 | telmac | arafangion: no, I'm fairly certain it's an xrandr problem |
| 07:42.32 | telmac | it just takes a while to take these pictures |
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| 07:44.11 | arafangion | telmac: My money's on the theme and window manager, can you still see those pixels even with a theme that has no window borders? |
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| 07:45.05 | arafangion | Basically what you see there is that a single rectangle desktop is emulated there, with 'dead space'. |
| 07:45.18 | arafangion | With window borders often allowed to spill over, sadly. |
| 07:45.26 | telmac | no like, just a second |
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| 07:49.31 | telmac | http://i.imgur.com/5X5vyAE.jpg |
| 07:49.35 | telmac | http://i.imgur.com/DLGYKmc.jpg |
| 07:49.45 | telmac | so on the left monitor the left section is being cut off |
| 07:50.04 | telmac | not pictured is that the right side of the left monitor has a black strip |
| 07:50.52 | arafangion | Ah, I see. Yes, that's clearly not a theming issue. |
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| 07:51.19 | telmac | yes |
| 07:51.41 | telmac | it must be partially a problem with the monitor |
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| 07:51.54 | telmac | but it's also obviously x's fuckery |
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| 07:52.19 | arafangion | I would assume so, yes - I assume you've tried using whatever controls the monitor gives you, if any? (Though I think those controls went away when CRT's went out?) |
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| 07:52.51 | arafangion | Maybe a good time to double check that you're using the recommended resolution *and* refresh rates, as well? |
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| 07:53.07 | mbn_18 | Hello. I wish to force install of php5 from private repo. I noticed of pinning but someone told me that it will work only until a new version is out. Is that true? If so, how can I force install of php5 from my private repo no matter what. |
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| 07:55.39 | telmac | xrandr --output DisplayPort-0 --off --output DVI-1 --mode 1680x1050 --pos 1366x0 --rotate normal --output DVI-0 --mode 1366x768 --pos 0x282 --rotate normal --output HDMI-0 --off |
| 07:55.43 | telmac | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.57 | telmac | the button for such configurations is broken on the left monitor |
| 07:56.11 | telmac | which may be causing this fuckery but wrapping to the right monitor shouldn't be doing this |
| 07:56.20 | arafangion | It could be causing it. :( |
| 07:56.23 | xar- | how can I tell if I'm vulnerable to the weak DH vulnerability? |
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| 07:56.57 | Irulan | Hello. I have a problem when logging in my debian 8 with SSH, I get a 20s hang after "debug1: Entering interactive session." |
| 07:57.05 | telmac | arafangion: anyway I'm not familiar with xrandr but there doesn't look ike anything there like refresh rate |
| 07:57.47 | Irulan | ssh server is waiting on a ppoll on unix socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket |
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| 07:58.04 | arafangion | telmac: I'm on mac os x at the moment, but the man page should have a --rate option? |
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| 07:58.20 | arafangion | Ah, those are for "older" systems. |
| 07:58.41 | petn-randall | mbn_18: You can give your version a priority of > 500, then a newer version will never be installed. |
| 07:58.45 | telmac | arafangion: yeah idk what it's doing if you don't specify one |
| 07:59.02 | mbn_18 | petn-randall: thx |
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| 07:59.25 | arafangion | telmac: It probalby finds a suitable default. I've not actually tried xrandr much, but I wonder if you could manually position it yourself, sacrificing a few pixels? |
| 07:59.39 | telmac | that would be fine |
| 07:59.48 | telmac | like losing six pixels on either end is fine but this is so weird |
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| 08:00.04 | arafangion | telmac: Alternatively, you could stop using RGB. |
| 08:00.14 | telmac | ? |
| 08:00.22 | arafangion | telmac: Do you have HDMI, DVI, or something? |
| 08:00.29 | telmac | dvi -> vga on both |
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| 08:00.48 | arafangion | You can't do straight dvi? |
| 08:00.58 | telmac | neither monitor has dvi |
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| 08:01.16 | telmac | I'm using the dvi converters the gpu came with |
| 08:01.33 | telmac | could this be causing fuckery because information about the monitors is lost? |
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| 08:02.23 | arafangion | This is a bit out of my depth, however I suspect it's nto so much as lost, but it's something that the monitor should compensate for when using analogue connections. |
| 08:02.29 | arafangion | They're sensitive to refresh rates and the like. |
| 08:03.25 | telmac | assuming I no longer have their documentation, would the monitors print such documentation on the back? |
| 08:03.27 | arafangion | You could try using a different resolution. |
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| 08:04.07 | arafangion | They might print such information on the back, but I think they don't do that very often anymore. |
| 08:04.11 | telmac | it would get sretched, now? |
| 08:04.15 | telmac | *no |
| 08:04.19 | arafangion | Depends. |
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| 08:07.49 | telmac | arafangion: wait so |
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| 08:08.00 | telmac | not sure how I would do this |
| 08:08.07 | blackflow | ohai. Any ideas why would cron on Jessie sometimes send two mails for output of a cron invoked script? |
| 08:08.29 | telmac | since xrandr has a limited number of possible resolutions so I can't give it 1360 or whatever |
| 08:08.36 | arafangion | telmac: Firstly, I'd just try each of the different resolutions you can use. And see how they position it. |
| 08:08.51 | arafangion | telmac: Yes, it'll be limited to those resolutions that the monitor advertises as supporting, iirc. |
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| 08:10.27 | telmac | arafangion: okay wtf |
| 08:10.43 | telmac | so I changed the horizontal positioning +3 for the left monitor |
| 08:10.45 | telmac | and then +8 |
| 08:10.48 | telmac | and then back to 0 |
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| 08:10.56 | telmac | and now it's fine |
| 08:11.01 | phix | hurray! |
| 08:11.12 | telmac | like the left side of the left monitor is still fucked but that literally never matters |
| 08:11.22 | arafangion | telmac: You probably triggered some kind of auto-set facility in the monitor. :) Hmm, still broken? |
| 08:11.23 | telmac | is this reproduceable if I restart x though? |
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| 08:11.40 | arafangion | telmac: Maybe. |
| 08:11.48 | telmac | arafangion: yeah and on the left monitor, beside the window container there's a black strip |
| 08:12.31 | arafangion | telmac: Well, you now have something to explore. :) |
| 08:12.42 | telmac | brb testing |
| 08:14.55 | telmac | okay so I looked at the xrandr scripts I wrote |
| 08:15.13 | telmac | apparently I moved the right monitor to 1670 horisontally |
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| 08:15.22 | telmac | but don't remember doing so |
| 08:15.47 | telmac | and now there's this space between either monitor just not being used |
| 08:16.00 | telmac | but w/e~ |
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| 08:16.11 | telmac | arafangion: <3 bb QQ |
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| 08:16.46 | arafangion | telmac: No idea what this "bb QQ" thing is, but it sounds like you're happy. Joys of crappy monitors. :) |
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| 08:19.46 | paradigmarson | Hi. GNOME won't start from my display manager, but KDE and Xfce will. Looks like segfault. Could this be a result of filesystem corruption from crashes? http://pastebin.com/SiRftW8A |
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| 08:21.26 | arafangion | paradigmarson: A bit of googling suggests running 'xdg-user-dirs' |
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| 08:21.47 | arafangion | paradigmarson: A bit of googling suggests running 'xdg-user-dirs-updates', though I don't have x11 on my machine. |
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| 08:23.03 | arafangion | paradigmarson: If you're getting "filesystem crashes", you should be able to get more information using fsck, one hopes. |
| 08:23.12 | arafangion | "filesystem corruption", rather. |
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| 08:24.32 | valdyn | arafangion: purge the brltty packages |
| 08:24.41 | paradigmarson | Thanks arafangion |
| 08:25.00 | valdyn | paradigmarson: purge the brltty packages ? |
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| 08:27.28 | paradigmarson | Funny, I don't even appear to have brltty installed. |
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| 08:28.52 | valdyn | paradigmarson: thats possible of course, the brltty message may not be related to your seg fault |
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| 08:29.34 | paradigmarson | I see. I'm thinking maybe my system is just generall broken due to all the crashes. Maybe time to reinstall. |
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| 08:29.42 | Rikle_S | Hello |
| 08:29.51 | Rikle_S | just upgraded from weezy to jessie |
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| 08:30.04 | valdyn | paradigmarson: install debsums, *check* the system |
| 08:30.06 | Rikle_S | and all my apache vhosts are linked to the default page |
| 08:30.22 | paradigmarson | Thanks valdyn |
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| 08:31.25 | arafangion | paradigmarson: Reinstalling's always an option, but if you were to identify the problem, you'd prevent it from happening again. :) |
| 08:31.58 | arafangion | paradigmarson: It'd be annoying if you reinstalled only to experience the same problem the next day! |
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| 08:35.18 | Rikle_S | someone there ? |
| 08:35.27 | paradigmarson | Yeah, this is true, I've just upgraded too. Though things were pretty okay after the upgrade. |
| 08:36.29 | paradigmarson | Meh, no problems found with debsums. Will try logging in now. Thanks, seeya |
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| 08:40.36 | wCPO | I'm trying to build a ubuntu trusty image from Debian Jessie, but for some reason it containue to add the package live-config-systemd which ubuntu doesn't have. |
| 08:42.09 | p0wersploit | You're doing what? |
| 08:42.25 | zwarag | I added dotdeb.org php5.6 repo to my system. upgraded php to version 5.6 to find out that I actually only can use version 5.5. now I added the version I want to install in the /etc/apt/sources.list but I still have version 5.6 installed. How can I downgradate to 5.5? |
| 08:42.32 | cluelesszac | hey guys, I'm getting an error fron crontab -e /bin/sh: 1: /var/scripts/ddns.php: not found |
| 08:42.37 | cluelesszac | however it DOES exist there. |
| 08:42.46 | cluelesszac | */3 * * * * /var/scripts/ddns.php |
| 08:43.15 | cluelesszac | am I doing something wrong? |
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| 08:44.15 | zwarag | here is my apt-cache policy php5: http://pastebin.com/Fz7SdBff |
| 08:44.42 | zwarag | currently running debian 7.8 |
| 08:45.22 | wCPO | p0wersploit: http://dpaste.com/3YKQSFB |
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| 08:46.30 | niko | hello |
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| 08:46.46 | p0wersploit | I've only done Kali live builds inside of Kali, so educate me, why would you try to use Debian Jessie sources to make an Ubuntu build |
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| 08:47.02 | p0wersploit | Not saying it's wrong I literally don't know |
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| 08:47.56 | zwarag | cluelesszac: the owner of the file or the execution rights are not set right |
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| 08:48.17 | cluelesszac | zwarag: the files are sudo chmod +x on each of them, and they are both root owned. |
| 08:48.36 | cluelesszac | zwarag: It's also my understanding that sudo cron uses elevated permissions anyway |
| 08:49.01 | zwarag | thats right but if it does not have execution permissions, it still not going to execute that file |
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| 08:49.09 | zwarag | have you tried executing it by yourself? |
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| 08:50.34 | cluelesszac | zwarag: manually running ./ddns.php returns "bad interpreter: No such file or directory" |
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| 08:50.51 | wCPO | p0wersploit: Our server is debian, but we need newer packages for the live build.. |
| 08:51.01 | p0wersploit | Oh okay |
| 08:51.21 | p0wersploit | You can't get like...the new packages from the experimental sources? |
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| 08:51.24 | paradigmarson | Yay, I fixed it! I purged desktop-profiles and it's sorted! |
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| 08:52.04 | bezaban | cluelesszac: you need to check your shebang at the start of the php file, ie '#!/usr/bin/env php' or call it with path/to/php script.php |
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| 08:52.54 | zwarag | cluelesszac: if you want to execute php files from operating system layer. you need to call it like this: "$ php script.php" |
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| 08:53.04 | wCPO | p0wersploit: Maybe, the most important package is firefox, and don't like to install it from unstable. |
| 08:53.40 | cluelesszac | zwarag: bezaban What I don't understand is that this was working perfectly yesterday. I hadn't made any related changes. regardless, php is on the system |
| 08:53.59 | cluelesszac | zwarag: the !#/php thing handles the php script.php |
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| 08:54.15 | p0wersploit | It's just that I always see really bad results when people try to mix distros |
| 08:54.20 | p0wersploit | I have never seen it end well |
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| 08:55.04 | wCPO | live-build support building a diffrent distro than the os is running |
| 08:55.09 | wCPO | host* |
| 08:55.18 | unborn | wCPO, you can install ff on debian |
| 08:55.33 | p0wersploit | Okay, I was just curious :) |
| 08:55.42 | bezaban | cluelesszac: is your php binary located in / ? |
| 08:55.49 | bezaban | if not that won't work |
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| 08:56.34 | p0wersploit | But if it's building a different distro why does it matter that Debian Jessie's sources don't have it |
| 08:57.01 | wCPO | unborn: I know, but it "hacky".. |
| 08:57.02 | zwarag | cluelesszac: i gotta do some work here, but the error definitely means that something is wrong with your interpretor (maybe wrong version) or that is has no right php interpretor for that. Give us your "echo $PATH" maybe that will help. |
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| 08:57.44 | wCPO | p0wersploit: I already have a working ubuntu machine running, and ubuntu have all the packages. |
| 08:58.06 | unborn | wCPO, I know.. but If you want a package-based one, you can use Linux Mints Debian package repo |
| 08:58.38 | cluelesszac | zwarag: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games |
| 08:58.46 | centrx | Any recommendations on a compact printer that works well/easy to set up with CUPS/Debian? |
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| 08:59.05 | centrx | !ops privmsg spammer: donnel |
| 08:59.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: centrx complains about: privmsg spammer: donnel |
| 09:00.06 | wCPO | unborn: I could, but already have a working ubuntu machine, only need a script to "recreate" it. |
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| 09:02.14 | elcheckito | what is the debian way of adding a user? useradd (which i use) adduser (which i see here: http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.creating-accounts.html, here: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/2/Adding_new_users and elsewhere) or "other"? |
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| 09:02.49 | centrx | elcheckito, adduser does more things automatically for you than useradd |
| 09:02.52 | centrx | elcheckito, but both are legit |
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| 09:03.16 | centrx | elcheckito, e.g. adduser creates the home directory |
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| 09:04.49 | elcheckito | i also noticed: (/usr/sbin/adduser: Perl script, ASCII text executable) // (/usr/sbin/useradd: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object) |
| 09:06.13 | centrx | elcheckito, yes, and adduser calls useradd to add the user account to the system |
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| 09:10.22 | p0wersploit | useradd is what I was taught |
| 09:10.27 | Rikle_S | hello |
| 09:10.51 | Rikle_S | can someone can help me with Name or service not known: AH00547: Could not resolve host name after wezzy => jessy upgrade ? |
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| 09:16.22 | tuxcrafter | i just wanted to say, there is something screwed up with debian 8 and its systemd initramfs, if i boot grub from an cloned disk, and in the current system there is also an mdadm raid array, it will mix things up and you get some kind of weird system state where it boots from the clone disk and then mounts the root fs from the disk in the system and continues boothing |
| 09:17.00 | tuxcrafter | i removed all raid ids from the disk so that it would actually boot from the cloned disk only to solve the problem |
| 09:18.20 | p0wersploit | Is the physical server name definitely the same as the server name defined in your virtual host? |
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| 09:18.36 | p0wersploit | Rikle |
| 09:18.41 | elcheckito | centrx: thanks for answering my question, my friend |
| 09:19.27 | elcheckito | well i wanna be as debian-policy compliant as i possibly can so i am gonna go with adduser even if i have been using useradd since "forever" :) |
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| 09:21.16 | centrx | elcheckito, Yeah use adduser. That will make sure the home directory is created and populated with a basic .bashrc etc |
| 09:21.58 | p0wersploit | How does useradd not do the same thing? |
| 09:22.00 | centrx | elcheckito, useradd manpage says: "useradd is a low level utility for adding users. On Debian, administrators should usually use adduser(8) instead." |
| 09:22.07 | p0wersploit | I was under the impression it took from /etc/skel |
| 09:22.38 | elcheckito | p0wersploit: yes it does but if the distro prefers a tool why not use it and even contribute to it and improve it if you feel it's lacking? http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.creating-accounts.html |
| 09:22.39 | centrx | p0wersploit, try it, useradd doesn't do the home directory and probably other things as well |
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| 09:23.02 | elcheckito | centrx: incorrect. it can do it with the -m option. but that's not the point, at least not in my opinion :) |
| 09:23.27 | centrx | I see |
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| 09:23.41 | p0wersploit | I don't feel it's lacking, I think I did use useradd when setting up a friend's Debian for them because adduser was being problematic |
| 09:23.50 | elcheckito | my point was that i believe in debian as a distro and wanna go with what the policy endorses.. focus on that |
| 09:23.58 | p0wersploit | But usually I go to adduser because that's what I was taught to use |
| 09:24.13 | elcheckito | p0wersploit: "was being problematic" :) |
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| 09:24.24 | p0wersploit | Granted, it was not a Debian teacher, it was a Red Hat oriented class :P |
| 09:24.37 | p0wersploit | Yes it was very problematic I believe adduser worked perfectly |
| 09:24.42 | elcheckito | p0wersploit: that's why i came here to get it the "debian way" |
| 09:24.44 | p0wersploit | If I remember correctly |
| 09:25.07 | elcheckito | "very problematic" :) my remark was about the generic description of the issue :) |
| 09:25.49 | p0wersploit | Yeah it was, it wouldn't create a home directory |
| 09:26.13 | p0wersploit | and when I tried to login as the regular user it gave some bizzare name that was along the lines of "unknown" or something |
| 09:26.29 | p0wersploit | Don't remember the exact words it used but it wasn't a username |
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| 09:27.10 | p0wersploit | Somehow I figured out that adduser existed at that point |
| 09:27.41 | elcheckito | am i correct if i say that there isn't a "debian github repo" per se so that patches to scripts like adduser (for example) cannot be submitted as pull requests? |
| 09:27.49 | p0wersploit | maybe I was trying to dyslexically look at the man page for useradd, lol |
| 09:28.11 | p0wersploit | It wasn't something I googled but I found it |
| 09:28.27 | TG|OC|Kiwi | hi all, i have following problem and would like to know if someone could help me.. i'm a linux newbie |
| 09:28.38 | p0wersploit | I can try |
| 09:28.52 | TG|OC|Kiwi | root@emevth:~# modprobe cfis -f |
| 09:28.52 | TG|OC|Kiwi | libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.18.7-v7+/modules.dep.bin' |
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| 09:30.40 | p0wersploit | What's the output of uname -a |
| 09:31.00 | TG|OC|Kiwi | Linux emevth 3.18.7-v7+ #755 SMP PREEMPT Thu Feb 12 17:20:48 GMT 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 09:31.39 | TG|OC|Kiwi | cfis doesn't work.. need it for fstab to have access to my network drive.. |
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| 09:32.04 | TG|OC|Kiwi | as i'm a newbie i guess i made a mess with my setup.. i'm running wheezy on my pi |
| 09:32.08 | TG|OC|Kiwi | pi 2 |
| 09:32.24 | p0wersploit | https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=100842&p=699132 |
| 09:32.24 | TG|OC|Kiwi | libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/3.18.7-v7+/modules.dep.bin' |
| 09:32.36 | p0wersploit | Upgrade the kernel :) |
| 09:32.39 | TG|OC|Kiwi | this error message also appears at bootup |
| 09:33.01 | TG|OC|Kiwi | after upgradeing the kernel the system doesn't boot |
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| 09:33.45 | p0wersploit | Honestly that's the best I can do, I don't know anything about using Pi |
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| 09:33.52 | p0wersploit | That was just a google search :P |
| 09:33.53 | TG|OC|Kiwi | root@emevth:~# ls /lib/modules |
| 09:33.54 | TG|OC|Kiwi | 3.18.11+ 3.18.11-v7+ |
| 09:34.06 | p0wersploit | There's probably a support channel for raspberry pi that would help more |
| 09:34.35 | TG|OC|Kiwi | it's for registered users only.. i am registered but i'm already logged in |
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| 09:34.51 | TG|OC|Kiwi | there's also raspbian channel yes |
| 09:35.27 | vegardx | If only rpi had a proper bootloader. |
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| 09:35.56 | p0wersploit | Everything that I see on that issue says run rpi-update |
| 09:36.08 | p0wersploit | I don't know enough about raspberry pi to help beyond that |
| 09:36.12 | TG|OC|Kiwi | root@emevth:~# ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r) |
| 09:36.12 | TG|OC|Kiwi | ls: cannot access /lib/modules/3.18.7-v7+: No such file or directory |
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| 09:39.03 | p0wersploit | honestly if you can't google the answer you should ask the raspberry pi channel, or whatever |
| 09:39.12 | artur99 | hi :) |
| 09:39.21 | p0wersploit | I've heard flat out refusal to provide support for it in here |
| 09:39.27 | artur99 | How to hack up a http auth in kali? |
| 09:39.41 | artur99 | something like 192.168.1.1 |
| 09:39.45 | artur99 | a gateway |
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| 09:41.51 | p0wersploit | route add default gateway |
| 09:42.09 | centrx | What brand of printer has the best Linux/Debian support? |
| 09:42.20 | petn-randall | hi artur99, ask in #kali. |
| 09:42.28 | petn-randall | !tell artur99 about kali |
| 09:42.42 | artur99 | there;s no one in #kali |
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| 09:43.13 | p0wersploit | I don't know what you mean by gateway but that's how you add a gateway :P |
| 09:43.19 | p0wersploit | If you mean it in the real sense |
| 09:43.48 | petn-randall | artur99: Oh, it's #kali-linux. Check what the bot sent you. |
| 09:43.53 | p0wersploit | route add default gw |
| 09:43.55 | artur99 | thanks :D |
| 09:43.59 | p0wersploit | then the IP |
| 09:44.04 | p0wersploit | man route |
| 09:44.12 | artur99 | thank you :) |
| 09:45.12 | p0wersploit | artur, Kali's channel is kali-linux |
| 09:45.16 | p0wersploit | the bot lies :) |
| 09:45.31 | artur99 | :)) |
| 09:45.37 | petn-randall | !tell p0wersploit about kali |
| 09:46.07 | p0wersploit | There's no need to !tell me about Kali, lol |
| 09:46.11 | p0wersploit | I know about it :P |
| 09:46.16 | p0wersploit | I'm in it's channel |
| 09:46.29 | petn-randall | p0wersploit: The bot is inerrant. :) |
| 09:46.58 | p0wersploit | Yeah you said #kali the bot has it right |
| 09:47.05 | p0wersploit | #kali-linux is correct |
| 09:47.07 | artur99 | the default gateway is not the same with the real one :D |
| 09:47.14 | petn-randall | p0wersploit: Just wanted to give you the chance to read what the bot said before you comment on it. :) |
| 09:47.24 | artur99 | Im connected to a router, and i use virtual box to run kali |
| 09:47.26 | p0wersploit | lol I admit I didn't read carefully |
| 09:47.34 | p0wersploit | I just saw something say #kali |
| 09:48.09 | p0wersploit | Also, man ip |
| 09:48.18 | p0wersploit | can add routes with that command too |
| 09:48.52 | artur99 | "No manual entry for 192.168.0.1" |
| 09:48.57 | p0wersploit | huh? |
| 09:48.59 | p0wersploit | no literally |
| 09:49.01 | p0wersploit | man ip |
| 09:49.20 | artur99 | aah :D it's the use manual |
| 09:49.20 | p0wersploit | why would you think there would be a man page on a specific ip address |
| 09:49.26 | petn-randall | artur99: Either way, Kali is not supported in here, so please continue asking there. |
| 09:49.35 | artur99 | ok, thanks |
| 09:49.37 | p0wersploit | you can private message me dude |
| 09:49.41 | p0wersploit | I know Kali |
| 09:49.46 | p0wersploit | But anyway |
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| 10:13.27 | blackflow | Any ideas why would cron on Jessie sometimes send two mails with the output of a cron invoked script? |
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| 10:15.36 | petn-randall | blackflow: Check /var/log/mail.log if it actually got sent out twice. |
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| 10:17.47 | brontosaurusrex | trying to compile dwm-master, what is missing here? http://paste.debian.net/plain/181534 |
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| 10:22.30 | blackflow | petn-randall: yes it did, two different message ids |
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| 10:25.34 | blackflow | petn-randall: single cron journal entry, two messages, same timestamp (within the same second), and the script output is just a single line echo, no newlines, no loops or stuff that might indicate why it was duplicated. and not all such messages will be duplicated, just some, randomly it seems. |
| 10:27.52 | petn-randall | blackflow: Maybe you accidentally added it twice? Once in /etc/cron.d/, once in /etc/crontab? |
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| 10:28.22 | petn-randall | blackflow: I haven't seen any cases where cron accidentally runs it twice, but it could be some obscure bug. |
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| 10:36.22 | blackflow | petn-randall: even if I did, then every time it ran I'd get two emails :) No, this is sporadic, I can't find the cause, and there is definitely just a single crontab for the task, and even the journal confirms single execution. |
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| 10:37.04 | blackflow | btw, I can't tell whether it executes twice, but I am getting two EMAILS. Could be single execution + two mails. |
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| 10:58.34 | boudiccas_ | logwatch stopped sending me emails 2 days ago, how do I restart it please? |
| 10:58.45 | boudiccas_ | \nick boudiccas |
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| 11:01.52 | svetlana | boudiccas: it runs every evening i think. try `sudo service logwatch restart'. |
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| 11:04.58 | boudiccas | svetlana, tried that, it said that there is no logwatch service, 'no such file or directory', and this is on jessie with systemd |
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| 11:05.36 | svetlana | ok, i don't know then, please wait |
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| 11:06.17 | boudiccas | exact error message is 'Failed to restart logwatch.service: Unit logwatch.service failed to load: No such file or directory.' |
| 11:06.20 | DexterF | hi. haven't debian-ified a src tarball in ages. what preceeds dpkg-buildpackage again to create the debian/rules skeleton? |
| 11:07.11 | GhostInTheShell | boudiccas: logwatch is not a service |
| 11:07.30 | GhostInTheShell | boudiccas: logwatch is a cronjob which runs every day |
| 11:07.31 | boudiccas | GhostInTheShell, i know, i've already found that out :) |
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| 11:08.25 | GhostInTheShell | if you stopped receiving mails, try running it manually with `logwatch -m root` to see if it works |
| 11:08.41 | GhostInTheShell | then check your logwatch config cron logs |
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| 11:10.10 | GhostInTheShell | by the way, you should check the config files in /usr/share/logwatch |
| 11:10.26 | GhostInTheShell | for some reason mine always ignore the configuration in /etc/logwatch |
| 11:11.08 | boudiccas | i have this inb my root crontab, but its not send ing me any emails, and it was working since end of january with the default settings '00 07 * * * /usr/sbin/logwatch ' |
| 11:12.21 | GhostInTheShell | can you check your /etc/cron.daily? You should have a file 00logwatch there |
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| 11:14.21 | k-man | something seems to be holding libvpx1 at the wheezy version even though I hhave upgraded to jessie on my system |
| 11:14.22 | boudiccas | GhostInTheShell, yes, its at /etc/cron.daily/00logwatch, and your stanza of 'logwatch -m root' does produce an email |
| 11:14.48 | GhostInTheShell | boudiccas: remove the job from your root crontab, you don't need it |
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| 11:15.23 | GhostInTheShell | after that you can try executing the command from the 00logwatch to see if this will work and produce an email |
| 11:15.39 | boudiccas | GhostInTheShell, well atm nothing seems to be working with it, and once i get it working daily then i'l remove it |
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| 11:16.15 | GhostInTheShell | ok, then copy the command from the daily to your root crontab and test |
| 11:16.29 | GhostInTheShell | schedule it for after 2-3 minutes |
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| 11:16.56 | p3rror | hello |
| 11:17.03 | p3rror | what does kill -HUP ? |
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| 11:18.31 | p3rror | whois gniourf |
| 11:19.32 | ChrisH | p3rror: it will send a SIGHUP to the process. The question is: What does process X when it gets a SIGHUP? The answer can be found in the process' man page. |
| 11:19.56 | p3rror | ChrisH: yes exact |
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| 11:20.05 | p3rror | ChrisH: SIGHUP a signal number 1 |
| 11:20.16 | p3rror | so kill send signal number 1 to a process |
| 11:20.20 | boudiccas | GhostInTheShell, well /etc/cron.daily/00logwatch works from roots command line, so I don't know why its not running! |
| 11:20.54 | ChrisH | p3rror: yes. kill -l shows the signal numbers |
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| 11:21.26 | GhostInTheShell | boudiccas: is your cron daemon running at all? |
| 11:21.32 | p3rror | ChrisH: yes I know |
| 11:21.41 | p3rror | ChrisH: which man should I consult |
| 11:21.44 | p3rror | man kill |
| 11:21.51 | p3rror | does not give me what want |
| 11:21.53 | boudiccas | GhostInTheShell, dunno, how do i check? |
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| 11:22.21 | boudiccas | i see systemd with a PID of 1 is running all the time! |
| 11:22.34 | svetlana | :P |
| 11:22.35 | GhostInTheShell | check cron.servuic status |
| 11:22.42 | GhostInTheShell | *cron.service |
| 11:23.00 | p3rror | boudiccas: normal I think systemd replaced init |
| 11:23.07 | GhostInTheShell | systemd is not your cron daemon |
| 11:23.26 | p3rror | boudiccas: so dont worry |
| 11:23.35 | p3rror | ChrisH: which man please |
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| 11:24.06 | p3rror | ChrisH: Or you can of course tell me what is the the comportement of a process when it receive sighup |
| 11:24.31 | ]Kilroy[ | p3rror: 'man 7 signal' should help |
| 11:25.01 | ]Kilroy[ | see the see also also |
| 11:25.07 | boudiccas | GhostInTheShell, service cron status shows that it is active and has been so for the last week |
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| 11:25.43 | GhostInTheShell | boudiccas: in that case, check your cron logs for any stuck jobs |
| 11:25.49 | GhostInTheShell | or just restart the cron service |
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| 11:26.24 | p3rror | ]Kilroy[: thank you |
| 11:26.31 | GhostInTheShell | however if it does not execute your logwatch command, then you probably have a stuck job somewhere |
| 11:26.33 | p3rror | ]Kilroy[: but it is not clear for me |
| 11:26.52 | p3rror | ChrisH: ]Kilroy[ : Hangup detected on controlling terminal or death of controlling process |
| 11:27.02 | GhostInTheShell | in the cron logs you should have the last command executed by cron and when |
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| 11:27.19 | ChrisH | p3rror: kill -HUP PID is the correct command. PID refers to a program/process. You need to read the man page for that process. some processes terminat if getting a SIGHUP, others reread their config files, others dump cache data, ... |
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| 11:28.02 | p3rror | ChrisH: OK I see |
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| 11:33.27 | boudiccas | GhostInTheShell, thanks, i'm going to reboot, i'm due a reboot anyway. |
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| 11:35.42 | deitarion | It seems like at least 50% of the time, something on my desktop is broken because some package (eg. nvidia drivers) updated and pushed the kernel/X11/etc. side out of sync with the in-app library side. What's the cleanest way to... |
| 11:36.10 | deitarion | 1. Ask "I have set this package to 'hold'. Would it update if I hadn't?" |
| 11:36.10 | nkuttler | deitarion: use stable |
| 11:36.30 | deitarion | nkuttler: I'm on a GeForce GTX 750 and it doesn't work properly. |
| 11:36.47 | nkuttler | deitarion: on wheezy, jessie, or? |
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| 11:37.12 | deitarion | One sec. I can never remember the codenames. |
| 11:37.41 | nkuttler | fwiw, my gtx760 works flawlessly on stable |
| 11:38.16 | deitarion | The GTX760 is Fermi. The GTX750 is the first Maxwell (it's a misnamed GTX9xx) |
| 11:38.30 | nkuttler | i see |
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| 11:39.29 | deitarion | Anyway, apparently you need the 340 driver series or better for the GTX 750 to work without issues. |
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| 11:40.30 | deitarion | Also, it's not just the nvidia drivers. It's a general problem with me running my desktop session for weeks at a time and having to choose between clean "update everything pending and possibly break something because I refuse to reboot" commands or irritatingly manual "update this... now update this" commands. |
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| 11:41.47 | deitarion | (nvidia drivers aren't the only thing which have a "desktop half" and an "app half" which go out of sync when you refuse to do kill any process which is hard to get back to working state without restarting the desktop session.) |
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| 11:43.23 | deitarion | Basically, what I want to do is 'hold' the problem packages and write a little /etc/rc.local clause which, on start (because shutdown might not have been clean and I don't want to forget)... |
| 11:43.31 | deitarion | 1. checks for any pending updates to held packages |
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| 11:43.45 | deitarion | 2. updates them without unsetting the 'hold' |
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| 11:44.25 | deitarion | 3. If updates were applied, restarts the system to avoid the complication of finding and restarting just the bit (eg. X server) that would be forced out of sync by the update. |
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| 11:45.23 | deitarion | Especially since, in the case of the nvidia drivers, it would have to be smart enough to ensure that the kernel module is unused enough to be removed and reinserted. |
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| 11:51.19 | nkuttler | deitarion: if you're using testing/unstable ask in #debian-next @ oftc |
| 11:51.49 | aiRness | Hello. I'm creating my own ruby package for jessie in order to have 2.2.2 installed. My only value on Build-Depends atm is: debhelper (>= 9), although it works fine, I can see that ruby2.1 has some more. How should I treat my control file now? Should I add the same dependecies and if yes, should I add the same versions, because if I try to add newer ones I will have dependency issues and my own ruby2.2.2 w |
| 11:51.55 | aiRness | on't be installed. |
| 11:52.16 | nkuttler | ,v ruby |
| 11:52.17 | judd | Package: ruby on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.5; wheezy: 1:1.9.3; stretch: 1:2.1.5; jessie: 1:2.1.5; sid: 1:2.1.5+z; experimental: 1:2.1.5.0 |
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| 11:53.13 | nkuttler | aiRness: i would add the build-deps, yeah, and specify versions that are in stable. though i wouldn't just upgrade ruby tbh |
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| 11:55.18 | aiRness | nkuttler: alright but what do you mean by 'I wouldn't just upgrade ruby' |
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| 11:58.36 | nkuttler | aiRness: well, the whole point of running stable is not having to do that |
| 11:58.58 | aiRness | nkuttler: well unfortunately they need the latest version |
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| 11:59.34 | aiRness | for nodejs and ruby to be exact, nodejs is really a pain to create a package, maybe I will use an external repo for that |
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| 12:04.57 | quarterback | Hello, a newbie question on lighttpd webserver running on debian 7 x64. How to limit CPU consumption of this webserver to a fixed number such as 50% or 70% even at peak loads? Is there a way to set limits on the server load? |
| 12:07.00 | deitarion | nkuttler: No, I'm on oldstable because I've been too busy to upgrade and possibly deal with hiccups in the process. (Until fairly recently, some of the Ubuntu machines other family members use were on 12.04 LTS and were only upgraded to 14.04 LTS because their GOG games needed a newer glibc) |
| 12:08.00 | deitarion | ...and, as mentioned, I want to find or implement a general solution to the "defer session-breaking upgrades to next reboot" problem so solutions for nvidia drivers and the like aren't enough. |
| 12:08.14 | deitarion | s/defer/defer known/ |
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| 12:15.42 | petn-randall | quarterback: Let's step a little back. Why do you want to limit CPU consumption? |
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| 12:18.11 | quarterback | petn-randal: I am discussing this topic in #lighttpd at the moment. I want to limit CPU consumption to reduce server load as this is a vps |
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| 12:21.20 | rapha | Hi! |
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| 12:21.38 | p0wersploit | Hello |
| 12:21.59 | rapha | I want to build mesa according to http://x.debian.net/howto/build-mesa.html but it needs libdrm-intel >=2.4.60 which is only available in stretch. Is there any way I can still get it installed? |
| 12:22.55 | aiRness | nkuttler: would you recommend to install those two packages (nodejs, ruby) from sid to jessie or to build them instead? |
| 12:23.00 | petn-randall | quarterback: petn<tab> |
| 12:23.06 | aiRness | because sid has the versions that I need |
| 12:23.40 | petn-randall | quarterback: I don't get highlighted on typos. Other than that, crossposting is strongly frowned upon, so I'm assuming you're getting help in #lighttpd. |
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| 12:24.44 | quarterback | petn-randall : Allow me to discuss this on #lighttpd, thanks , I didn't know if a channel existed or else I would have posted there directly, apologies. |
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| 12:27.25 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport ruby |
| 12:27.26 | judd | Backporting package ruby in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 12:27.30 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport nodejs |
| 12:27.31 | judd | Backporting package nodejs in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, archignore. |
| 12:27.39 | nkuttler | !tell aiRness about ssbp |
| 12:28.28 | nkuttler | aiRness: rebuild |
| 12:28.47 | nkuttler | aiRness: keep in mind though that it'll be your job to maintain them |
| 12:28.50 | nkuttler | ,v nodejs |
| 12:28.51 | judd | Package: nodejs on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.29~dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.10.29~dfsg-2; sid: 0.10.38~dfsg-1; stretch: 0.10.38~dfsg-1 |
| 12:29.07 | nkuttler | aiRness: they might end up in backports sooner or later |
| 12:29.15 | aiRness | nkuttler: why not backport them though? |
| 12:29.37 | aiRness | I mean why bot use apt_pref and install them via sid |
| 12:29.38 | nkuttler | aiRness: what do you mean? |
| 12:30.12 | aiRness | define those 2 packages to be installed from sid instead of jessie |
| 12:30.15 | nkuttler | aiRness: pinning? that creates more problems than it solves |
| 12:31.06 | aiRness | hm ok |
| 12:31.23 | aiRness | I;m asking because nodejs is not the easiest pkg to maintain (or to build) |
| 12:31.49 | darxmurf | hmmm forgot to but back my change on my backup script... have 10 machine not backuped since the 21st of April \o/ |
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| 12:31.59 | darxmurf | :D |
| 12:32.09 | darxmurf | let's force a backup now :D |
| 12:32.26 | nkuttler | !tell aiRness about pinning |
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| 13:02.40 | kWO901 | does anyone know how to fix the blutty chrome issue? |
| 13:02.47 | kWO901 | blurry* |
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| 13:31.09 | badbodh | arghh wrong nick, nev mind |
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| 13:39.11 | piercedwater | hi |
| 13:40.26 | swift110-phone | Hey piercedwater |
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| 13:55.46 | aphorise | Trying to allow only 80 & 443 incoming - http://paste.ee/p/FBVUG - but with this I cant call out from within the box (eg ping) and all other ports still approachable can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong here? |
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| 13:57.12 | ChrisH | Anything related to Logjam CVE-2015-4000 and Debian known? I did not find anything. |
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| 13:58.52 | lotherk | ChrisH: I got these from #debian-security this morning: https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2015/05/msg00041.html https://lists.debian.org/debian-security/2015/05/msg00040.html |
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| 14:26.19 | nachos | Hi, I'm trying to get a debian jessie LXC container with a private ip to connect out in to the real world but for the life of me I can't get any connectivity in the container. |
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| 14:26.41 | nachos | conainter 10.0.0.x <-> host public.ip -> no connectivity |
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| 14:32.51 | Tom01 | shay_shay: irssi is starting now with ifconfig post-up |
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| 14:34.27 | cyphix | Hi. I'm trying to allow my user to launch shutdown and reboot command without root password requirement. I tried to add the following line to the sudoers file, but it seems that there is an error: "cyphix ALL= NOPASSWD: /sbin/poweroff, /sbin/reboot/ /sbin/shotdown". How should I write it? |
| 14:35.08 | cyphix | Nevermind, I need new glasses... |
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| 14:37.43 | shay_shay | Tom01: cool. you should be able to save the pid in an environmental variable and have it check if the previous instance is running before trying to spawn a new one |
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| 14:38.45 | jhutchins | aphorise: First off, a port is only open if there is a service listening on it. |
| 14:39.09 | jhutchins | aphorise: Unlike windows, an on-system firewall doesn't do much in Linux. |
| 14:39.52 | Tom01 | shay_shay: ok |
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| 14:40.25 | p0wersploit | I use a VPN\Firewall router :P |
| 14:40.48 | jhutchins | p0wersploit: Much more effective. |
| 14:41.15 | shay_shay | Tom01: $! is a built in bash variable which will to the pid of the previous process. you have to store that in another variable. example: irssi; export ir_pid="$!" |
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| 14:44.32 | greycat | shay_shay: that's not how $! works. It only works for commands that you explicitly put into the background with & |
| 14:44.43 | ronkrt | where could one find 'paid' drivers, for example a driver for Broadcom 802.11n Network Adapter |
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| 14:45.43 | greycat | And I'm not sure what you're exporting that variable *for*, but that might be just because I haven't seen the context yet. |
| 14:46.23 | shay_shay | greycat: then he can simply background irssi in the line before it |
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| 14:46.54 | shay_shay | at the beginning if the script there would be an if statement checking if that pid exists still before opening a new one |
| 14:47.10 | greycat | "script"? Then your environment variable does nothing. |
| 14:47.14 | jhutchins | aphorise: If you still want to mess with it, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/ |
| 14:47.27 | greycat | Environment variables are not like a Windows registry. They are not magically persistent across multiple instances of a script. |
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| 14:47.48 | shay_shay | greycat: the script would close if irssi was closed... that's why it would need to be exported |
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| 14:48.30 | greycat | If you have a script that launches irssi in the background grabs its PID, exports the PID in an env var, and exits -- then the env var is GONE. It does nothing. |
| 14:49.07 | shay_shay | but the script is executed by the system |
| 14:49.08 | greycat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/045 -- How can I ensure that only one instance of a script is running at a time (mutual exclusion)? |
| 14:49.19 | greycat | Start there, if that's what the goal is. |
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| 14:51.23 | Tom01 | I will look at it. |
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| 14:55.15 | shay_shay | greycat: the approach I was going for would have worked even if I didn't say the exact syntax. I'm not sitting in front of a shell atm |
| 14:56.06 | greycat | No. A script that runs once, launches a daemon, and sets an env var does NOT work. The env var does not persist past the script's termination. It's just gone. |
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| 14:56.41 | greycat | You would need to store the PID in a file, or other long-term storage. That's the sysvinit approach (PID files). It's horrible and shitty, but it gets the job done 95% of the time, so people did it. |
| 14:56.50 | shay_shay | then he can use a file with the pid in it |
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| 14:59.08 | JyZyXEL | why is the KDE start menu button a ubuntu logo on debian sid? :D |
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| 15:01.58 | somiaj | hmm, how to disable avahi in systemd, cna't seem to find the service, but I do not need it to attach an ip to my wlan0 device when it isn't in use. |
| 15:02.37 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:03.34 | somiaj | greycat: yea tried that, not finding any unit with that key. I found the process avahi-autoipd: [wlan0] bound 169.254.9.1, but can't figure out what is brining it up or calling it |
| 15:03.47 | somiaj | google suggested there was some avahi-daemon.service, but I did not find one on my system. |
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| 15:04.24 | greycat | What? I don't even know what an avahi IS, and I had two matching things. |
| 15:04.33 | greycat | avahi-daemon.service and avahi-daemon.socket |
| 15:05.27 | somiaj | I don't have any of those on my system.udo systemctl list-units | grep avahi returns nothing, but something is running avahi-autoipd and giving me a silly ip address on a device that is down (I prefer to manually bring it up when I need it) |
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| 15:06.16 | greycat | If it's network-related, maybe it's being run by an if-up script? |
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| 15:06.56 | somiaj | I double checked that, but it only runs when wlan0 is down. Once i run 'ifup wlan0' (which then runs wpasupplicant to manage the connenctions) it goes away. |
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| 15:07.15 | somiaj | this is only up when I have manually ifdown wlan0 and then bring up my eth0 |
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| 15:08.34 | ronkrt | is there an easy way for me to add a file (a .deb) to the official livecd iso? |
| 15:08.48 | ronkrt | (while in linux) |
| 15:08.54 | ronkrt | errrr |
| 15:08.56 | ronkrt | in windows |
| 15:09.18 | somiaj | I like some of the features of systemd, I just wish it was easier to put a 'minimial' setting to not have it run things. Seems I have to figure out how to disable ModemManager which is being brought up by dbus to manage my broadband modem connenctions I don't have. |
| 15:09.47 | somiaj | ronkrt: why must you do it in windows? Once you load the live image, you can install new packages as needed. |
| 15:09.58 | somiaj | ronkrt: you will have to do this each boot unless you configure persistance. |
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| 15:10.06 | ronkrt | somiaj: its the wifi drivers for my adapter |
| 15:10.09 | ronkrt | no internet without em |
| 15:10.41 | somiaj | ronkrt: are you using a cd or usbstick? |
| 15:10.44 | jhutchins | ronkrt: There are iso "editing" utilities. Basically you extract the files from the iso image, modify them, then re-master the iso. |
| 15:10.52 | somiaj | ronkrt: is this the non-free firmware, I think there are non-free firmware livecd images. |
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| 15:11.01 | ronkrt | usb stick |
| 15:11.07 | somiaj | jhutchins: wouldn't that mess with the bootloader? |
| 15:11.25 | jhutchins | ronkrt: I don't know if isomaster has a windows port. |
| 15:11.26 | somiaj | ronkrt: should be able to partition the remaning space on the the stick that isn't used by the live image. Copy the .deb there, then you can just install it form the usb stick. |
| 15:11.44 | ronkrt | hehe not that simple im affrid |
| 15:11.49 | somiaj | oh windows, windows sometimes doesn't like usb thumbdrives to have a second partition. |
| 15:11.52 | jhutchins | somiaj: I don't remember how it handles that. It may store it in a temp file. |
| 15:11.53 | ronkrt | im using drivedroid and mounting the image directlyt |
| 15:11.55 | ronkrt | no partion |
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| 15:12.11 | jhutchins | !installer firmware |
| 15:12.12 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
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| 15:12.25 | somiaj | ronkrt: well the way I do that is after I cp the image to the usb stick, I then create a second partitoin and put additional stuff I may need there. |
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| 15:13.09 | somiaj | ronkrt: but I would be careful what you find to edit the image, you could fubar the bootloader. I don't have any good suggestion over just use a second usb stick to copy the file over, or get one of the non-free firmware live images. |
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| 15:13.37 | ronkrt | i could always dupe the file |
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| 15:16.20 | ronkrt | jhutchins: can you recommend one? |
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| 15:16.47 | somiaj | ronkrt: the package you need is just the firmware correct? |
| 15:16.54 | ronkrt | ya |
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| 15:17.06 | somiaj | ronkrt: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/ |
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| 15:17.21 | somiaj | ronkrt: as I said, why not just get an image with the non-free firmware included. |
| 15:17.39 | somiaj | that is if you can't make a second partition on the thumbdrive to put stuff, or configure persistance and then copy over the firmware once. |
| 15:17.43 | ronkrt | i already have the gnome live, and i have shitty internet |
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| 15:18.22 | somiaj | well you could enable persistance, and then copy over the firwamre once, and next time you use that image it would work. |
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| 15:20.43 | ronkrt | hmm ok |
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| 15:29.19 | ronkrt | somiaj: is it easy to mount my cell phone file system to linux without a driver? |
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| 15:31.32 | darthanubis | of course |
| 15:31.37 | ronkrt | ok |
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| 15:45.56 | gryf | what the duck, debian ? Bing is the default websearch in icedove ? oO |
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| 15:47.44 | greycat | I thought icedove was a mail reader. |
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| 15:48.37 | Cobra_Fast | Hello! I just upgraded to Jessie and cant seem to get ipv6 to work again. I've statically configured it in /etc/network/interfaces but systemctl restart networking doesn't seem to be able to bring it up |
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| 15:49.05 | Cobra_Fast | The log of networking says "Configuring network interfaces...RTNETLINK answers: File exists" - any ideas? |
| 15:49.13 | be28 | Is there a way to run ntp using cron but without having the daemon running all the time? |
| 15:49.49 | greycat | That's not how ntp WORKS. If you just want to slam the clock around every few minutes, use a different program. |
| 15:49.59 | greycat | Like ntpdate. |
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| 15:50.37 | be28 | greycat: isnt ntpdate about to be deprecated? |
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| 15:50.55 | be28 | I just want to sync the time like once a day and then be done with anything ntp related |
| 15:50.55 | gryf | why debian team does not strip off the hateful search engines from its packages ? :( |
| 15:51.06 | greycat | This is the first I've heard of that. Do you have a reference? |
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| 15:51.44 | greycat | If you prefer the BSD-ish rdate, you can use that. |
| 15:51.54 | petn-randall | gryf: How do you use bing from icedove? I don't see how you achieve that. |
| 15:52.19 | greycat | Maybe he meant iceweasel. |
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| 15:53.32 | rdz | where can i download Wheezy netinst? |
| 15:53.33 | be28 | greycat: http://linux.die.net/man/8/ntpd "After a suitable period of mourning, the ntpdate program may be retired." and there are various mentions of it being deprecated here and there, do a google search |
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| 15:54.49 | Cobra_Fast | No ideas about the networking issueà |
| 15:55.01 | qman__ | Lots of things are "deprecated" without adequate replacements, and aren't going anywhere |
| 15:55.17 | qman__ | Like linux raid autodetect |
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| 15:55.34 | greycat | be28: OK, well, then use the 'ntpd -q' thing that the man page says to use, if you believe that ntpdate will be removed for some reason. |
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| 15:59.10 | Ooze | I'm having some trouble running 'apt-get update' on jessie |
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| 15:59.17 | Ooze | Sometime it'll go through, but sometimes it won't connect |
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| 16:00.06 | Ooze | I had to add those repos like dpkg told me to do |
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| 16:00.25 | Ooze | but when it tries for these httpredir subdomains sometimes it won't work |
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| 16:02.09 | Ooze | Anyone awake? |
| 16:02.43 | greycat | Use mirrors that work for you. |
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| 16:03.03 | Ooze | Well sometimes it will work, I just have to run it two/three times |
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| 16:08.20 | Cobra_Fast | okay, the box gets stuck on "reboot" now too, is that normal? |
| 16:08.58 | Ooze | Oh these channels are always so helpful... |
| 16:09.10 | Cobra_Fast | except that theyre not |
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| 16:15.13 | valdyn | Cobra_Fast: your question seems rethoric |
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| 16:16.01 | Cobra_Fast | valdyn: scroll up, my main question is how to get ipv6 running again... but right now i cant even get the box to work again |
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| 16:18.12 | jhutchins | Cobra_Fast: It sounds like you might be having issues with the systemd network manager. Not sure what "Stuck on reboot" means. |
| 16:18.53 | Cobra_Fast | stuck on reboot means that entering "reboot" as root means that it kills the machine, it will no longer respond to WOL or hardware reset |
| 16:19.10 | Cobra_Fast | and certainly not reboot |
| 16:19.15 | greycat | On the way down, or on the way up? What's the last thing it does before locking up? |
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| 16:19.34 | Cobra_Fast | if i had to guess i'd say on the way down |
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| 16:19.36 | jhutchins | Cobra_Fast: Hold power button? |
| 16:19.42 | greycat | You're not physically present at the machine? |
| 16:19.43 | Cobra_Fast | no physical access |
| 16:19.47 | valdyn | certain broken sata controller can cause something like this |
| 16:20.23 | valdyn | but hardware reset not working seems to imply that its not really hardware reset |
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| 16:21.47 | Cobra_Fast | not sure what kind of hardware reset it is |
| 16:22.07 | valdyn | Cobra_Fast: you need to talk to the hoster |
| 16:22.23 | valdyn | Cobra_Fast: if debian can cause hardware reset breaking then their system is broken |
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| 16:23.29 | ronkrt | I hope this works |
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| 16:40.01 | Future_Suture | Do the right thing, Debian gamers. Vote for SteamOS support. http://g2g.amplitude-studios.com/G2G-Votes2 |
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| 16:41.30 | bazhang | !ops | Future_Suture spamming multiple channels |
| 16:41.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | Future_Suture spamming multiple channels |
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| 16:43.30 | atomtm | Hello guys! I ran chkrootkit and I have: Checking `wted'...1 deletion(s) between... Can someone tell me what wted is ? |
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| 16:44.32 | be28 | Hey guys, whats the best practise for cron, manually editing /etc/crontab or using roots crontab? |
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| 16:47.46 | FutureSuture | Hey babilen, I do know better, I just care more about this Linux relevant matter. |
| 16:47.52 | FutureSuture | Bit rude to go hardcore banhammer over a first offence, babilen. Please learn to relax. |
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| 16:52.45 | FutureSuture | Valve granted all Debian developers free access to all their games. Your ungratefulness is dually noted, babilen. |
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| 16:53.25 | FutureSuture | babilen, thanks for being a rule enforcing nazi. You are really helping the cause. |
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| 16:53.56 | kriger | how do I use a wildcard to move all files with (U) in the name? I tried mv *(U)* ~/ and that didn't work? I need a refresher please. |
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| 16:54.12 | greycat | mv *"(U)"* ~/ |
| 16:54.15 | kriger | thank you! |
| 16:54.21 | greycat | you have to quote the parentheses because they are special to the shell |
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| 17:12.59 | TriangleBowls | In #modgamedeals is a hacker called bearbear. He says he infiltrated debian and is adding backdoors to the code |
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| 17:25.22 | electricprism | How does my File Manager know what icon to assign ~/Documents ~/Music etc? |
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| 17:29.33 | centrx | electricprism, It's in the configuration of the file manager or desktop environment (e.g. Gnome) |
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| 17:29.39 | centrx | configuration/theme/skin |
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| 17:30.39 | edoardo_ | hi |
| 17:30.44 | edoardo_ | where can i find debian 9 images? |
| 17:30.56 | greycat | In the future. |
| 17:31.04 | marjolein | :) |
| 17:31.08 | edoardo_ | yay! |
| 17:31.11 | edoardo_ | so no debian images? |
| 17:31.16 | verri_ | I have some in my basement |
| 17:31.23 | verri_ | please feel free to come get them |
| 17:31.24 | greycat | When you go to the future, be sure to bring me back some stock tips. |
| 17:31.35 | edoardo_ | :) |
| 17:31.50 | centrx | edoardo_, Debian 9 is a future/pre-release. Do you mean Debian 8/jessie ? |
| 17:31.53 | edoardo_ | damn, i want to reinstall this machine but i don't want to use jessie again :\ |
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| 17:33.04 | marjolein | eduardo_: what's wrong with Jessie? |
| 17:34.22 | edoardo_ | marjolein: nothing, i just wanted to have something that was more "testing" than "stable" |
| 17:34.30 | edoardo_ | jessie is freezed now, right? |
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| 17:34.56 | electricprism | centrx: thanks, I'm researching now exactly what that means it seems to do something with the ~/.themes directory from what I seem to find |
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| 17:36.12 | marjolein | edoardo_: you can just run "testing" and get the newest updates |
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| 17:36.33 | edoardo_ | marjolein: i'll switch to testing then, thanks! |
| 17:37.35 | marjolein | edoardo_: if something is giving you trouble you can always downgrade a step (or usually anyway) |
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| 17:37.48 | abrotman | not really |
| 17:38.00 | edoardo_ | well, you're asking for a break there |
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| 17:38.24 | aiRness | Hello. I want to build my own nodejs package for jessie. Would you recommend to use the same http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/n/nodejs/nodejs_0.10.29~dfsg-2.debian.tar.xz in order to build a newer nodejs version? Because it's not that trivial to define all the files inside debian/ |
| 17:38.51 | greycat | "testing" generally does not have the "newest" anything |
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| 17:39.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell aiRness about uupdate |
| 17:39.43 | marjolein | greycat: well, "newer" when available :) not always newest, I know. (I've manually compiled some applications to get newer than what debian testing had) |
| 17:40.16 | xreal | On Ubuntu, there's a tool, which tells you which program to apt-get if it's missing. Does anyone know its name? |
| 17:40.22 | xreal | I think, it's a bash function. |
| 17:40.23 | greycat | Given how recently jessie was released, I'd just run jessie and backport anything I need that's not in it. |
| 17:40.33 | Mousey | xreal: apt-get install command-not-found |
| 17:40.43 | Mousey | the command-not-found package is in debian too |
| 17:40.47 | xreal | Mousey: is it good? |
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| 17:41.10 | Mousey | yeah. i live by it |
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| 17:41.28 | Mousey | xreal: after you install it run 'update-command-not-found' |
| 17:41.28 | marjolein | greycat: what I do is sort of a mix of that ;-) but debian has caught up now with the programs I previously compiled myself (such a DarkTable and the Hugin suite) |
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| 17:42.37 | marjolein | if nothing else, it was educational :) |
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| 17:45.30 | xreal | Mousey: Ubuntu does this automatically. It tells you "hello not found, please run apt-get install hello" |
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| 17:45.42 | xreal | Mousey: aaah |
| 17:45.48 | xreal | Mousey: ignore |
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| 17:46.40 | jelly | ,i command-not-found |
| 17:46.41 | judd | Package command-not-found (admin, optional) in jessie/amd64: Suggest installation of packages in interactive bash sessions. Version: 0.2.38-1; Size: 12.7k; Installed: 144k |
| 17:47.09 | Mousey | i think he figured it out |
| 17:47.26 | xreal | Mousey: thx :D |
| 17:47.30 | Mousey | np, enjoy |
| 17:47.45 | Mousey | others you might find fun include molly-guard and etckeeper |
| 17:48.09 | Mousey | and maybe localepurge if you're not a (hyper)polyglot |
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| 17:48.59 | zPlus | I've downloaded debian 8.0.0 amd64 netinst and installed it on a HP pavillion with UEFI firmware and secure boot disabled. Unfortunately, after the installation has finished, I can't get grub to work and don't know how to boot debian. The only thing I see on screen is a message from grub "Minimal Bash--like line editing is supported. For the first word, Tab lists possible command completions. Anywhere else Tab lists the possible completions of a device/ |
| 17:49.00 | zPlus | filename." Is there anything that I can do to install debian and just have it work with grub/uefi? |
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| 17:52.08 | brolin_empey | I have a question about how to configure records in the DNS zone for a domain name. My question is not specific to Debian but it involves Debian. |
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| 17:53.46 | jelly | brolin_empey: if noone answers here... there's a #dns channel. |
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| 17:54.38 | Vasistha | Since installing jessie on a new system, I cannot find the sux package. Was it renamed, or ... what can I substitute? |
| 17:54.38 | greycat | zPlus: I've installed jessie (net install) on an HP Pavilion with UEFI and it just worked. I don' |
| 17:54.42 | greycat | t know what you did differently. |
| 17:54.59 | adimit | Hi. I think my wheezy system is pretty broken â I'm trying to install aptitude, and this is what I get: aptitude : Depends: aptitude-common (= 0.6.8.2-1) but 0.6.8.2-1.2 is to be installed |
| 17:55.14 | greycat | ,v aptitude-common |
| 17:55.15 | judd | Package: aptitude-common on amd64 -- wheezy: 0.6.8.2-1; sid: 0.6.11-1; jessie: 0.6.11-1; stretch: 0.6.11-1 |
| 17:55.30 | greycat | sounds like you got a post-wheeze package from somewhere |
| 17:55.35 | adimit | I do not have held or broken packages, and no sources besides the main ones, no pinning, etc. |
| 17:55.44 | greycat | download the wheezy version and dpkg -i it? |
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| 17:56.01 | adimit | greycat: I could do that for aptitude, but there are several other such packages :-( |
| 17:56.20 | greycat | What did you do? Mix distributions? Play with testing and then try to put it back to wheezy? |
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| 17:56.50 | adimit | This is a very old installation. There might have been some of that in the past, yes. But I've been running clean wheezy for a while now. |
| 17:57.34 | adimit | what I don't understand: aptitude is not currently installed, the sources are wheezy, why is it trying to install something else than what is in wheezy? |
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| 17:58.31 | r3m | abrotman: hi, I installed the new stable, but dropbox did not update https://linux.dropbox.com/debian (no folder for stretch) so when I install dropbox it use the jessie folder, is it ok? cause it was testing when they create the folder |
| 17:58.37 | greycat | adimit: try "apt-cache policy aptitude-common" |
| 17:58.54 | abrotman | r3m: I've never used dropbox, no idea |
| 17:59.00 | r3m | ok |
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| 18:00.34 | adimit | greycat: ah, thanks! It showed me it was still installed, which it shouldn't have been. |
| 18:00.39 | adimit | aptitude is now downloading. |
| 18:01.00 | adimit | I hope I will be able to work my way out of the rest of my mess like that, too :-) |
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| 18:01.44 | adimit | I didn't know about apt-cache policy. sounds very useful! Thanks! |
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| 18:03.29 | brolin_empey | My employer uses the domain name techsoleng.com . Our public Web sites are hosted on a VPS named cowboy.techsoleng.com that is hosted by cowboy.vpsville.com . cowboy.techsoleng.com has its own public IPv4 address. In the DNS zone file for techsoleng.com , cowboy is an A record containing the public IP address of cowboy.techsoleng.com . For a Web site that is a virtual host of the apache2 running on cowboy.techsoleng.com , should the DNS record for |
| 18:03.30 | brolin_empey | the Web site in the zone file for techsoleng.com be an A record containing the public IP address of cowboy.techsoleng.com or a CNAME record containing cowboy.techsoleng.com ? If I use an A record, then I have multiple A records to manually update if the public IP address of cowboy.techsoleng.com changes. Consequently, having an A record for cowboy.techsoleng.com and a CNAME record containing cowboy.techsoleng.com for the apache2 virtual hosts on |
| 18:03.30 | brolin_empey | cowboy.techsoleng.com that use a host/subdomain of techsoleng.com seems better, but I wonder if there is any disadvantage of using a CNAME record instead of an A record in this situation? |
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| 18:04.42 | greycat | I think that wall of text was just asking "should web vhosts be A or CNAME" |
| 18:05.28 | brolin_empey | greycat: The IRC is a wall of text. |
| 18:05.42 | debi | Hi, i have installed debian from windows but grub deleted my mbr , so how to recover windows files now? |
| 18:06.19 | greycat | debi: install the os-prober package, and rerun update-grub if necessary |
| 18:07.24 | jelly | brolin_empey: it doesn't matter from a technical perspective. |
| 18:08.06 | adimit | Is there any way of getting a list of packages that are *ahead* of my current debian version? |
| 18:08.17 | jelly | brolin_empey: CNAMEs have a multitude of issues, but they work well in this case. |
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| 18:09.20 | debi | How to invoke the graphical installer from xfce, as i dont like command line? |
| 18:12.10 | debi | I have installed suse before but suse recognised my windows partitions very well, |
| 18:12.26 | brolin_empey | jelly: OK, then I will try to use CNAME instead of A for the new records. |
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| 18:14.47 | jelly | brolin_empey: just remember not to ever use them if you have a whole domain (zone) named like that. |
| 18:15.29 | jelly | eg. having a "techsoleng.com. IN CNAME something" would be a very bad idea. |
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| 18:16.28 | brolin_empey | jelly: OK, thank you. |
| 18:16.32 | Vasistha | debi: are you unsure of how to follow the instructions given? |
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| 18:17.08 | debi | Yes |
| 18:17.54 | Vasistha | debi: I think top priority should be to get your windows bootable again, and second priority should be configuring your debian system so that it is comfortable. Is this correct? |
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| 18:18.17 | Vasistha | debi: assuming it is -- are you able to be root at a command line terminal? |
| 18:18.27 | debi | Yes |
| 18:18.51 | Vasistha | debi: okay ... so just type: aptitude install os-prober |
| 18:19.10 | Vasistha | debi: whatever it asks, say yes :) |
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| 18:19.41 | debi | I cannot connect my dongle now like windows. |
| 18:20.19 | Vasistha | debi: Do you have internet access? |
| 18:20.33 | debi | Debian displaying some files when i plug in the dongle. |
| 18:20.58 | debi | Thats it. |
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| 18:21.15 | debi | In windows it starts installing. |
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| 18:21.20 | Vasistha | debi: one problem at a time dude. did you run aptitude install os-prober? |
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| 18:21.55 | debi | Without internet connection? |
| 18:22.15 | debi | I am typing it from my smartphone. |
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| 18:23.18 | Vasistha | debi: okay, so you are saying that this dongle provides your internet access? Can you give us some more information about the mystery dongle? For example: is it usb? does it connect to an ethernet cable, or is it for wireless internet access? Who made it? |
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| 18:24.29 | debi | Its D-Link usb HSPA dongle. |
| 18:25.14 | debi | I am on 3g connection. |
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| 18:28.29 | somiaj | debi: usually you don't have to install drivers in debian, they should already be included with the kernel. Many 3G/4G dongles are supported and I ran acorss a package 'modemmanager' that can manage such dongles (help connect them to the correct provider) |
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| 18:30.56 | debi | But this dongle is not installing. |
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| 18:32.20 | debi | Entire windows partition is gone, what can i do now? |
| 18:32.39 | Cobra_Fast | okay my box is back, now how do i get ipv6 to work? |
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| 18:33.00 | debi | Should i return to windows 7 |
| 18:33.28 | format_c | Cobra_Fast, nothing but a v6 enabled router bouncing out Router Advertisements |
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| 18:34.11 | format_c | And of course you need a IPv6 prefix |
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| 18:34.54 | Cobra_Fast | format_c: http://pastebin.com/raTVaApU this is my /etc/network/interfaces - it worked fine before the upgrade to jessie |
| 18:35.00 | Cobra_Fast | ... |
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| 18:35.57 | debi | I have also installed debian two time because first time it failed to install properly. |
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| 18:36.43 | zinx | strange it always installs the first time for me |
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| 18:39.22 | debi | I have used suse but never faced such problem , I thought it is more advanced but ended up deleting the entire mbr |
| 18:39.55 | debi | I am lost |
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| 18:41.58 | somiaj | debi: again focus on one problem at the time. If the entier windows partition is gone, then it sounds like you erased it or deleted it. |
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| 18:42.28 | somiaj | as for the 3g dongle, I have no experience with such things, I just know there is software and drivers in debian for them. |
| 18:42.36 | debi | No the installer deleted it autometically. |
| 18:42.39 | greycat | I'm assuming "gone" means "I can't see it" |
| 18:42.57 | greycat | Oh... did you confirm with parted or whatever, that the PARTITION is actually gone? |
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| 18:43.41 | debi | I am in xfce |
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| 18:46.21 | NaughtyBeard | hi all, a question i've a working slapd instance, client tools work smoothly. Except for phpldapadmin, i can't loging and see only this error in my slapd debug output; unable to get TLS client DN |
| 18:46.37 | NaughtyBeard | googling for some time didnt bring me anything useful |
| 18:46.42 | NaughtyBeard | anyone who can comment? |
| 18:47.00 | somiaj | debi: the installer does not delete partitions or data automatically without you 'agreeing'. The installer gives you various options, and the only way the partition got deleted is if you agreed to say 'use the whole disk' or to 'delete a partition' |
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| 18:47.16 | NaughtyBeard | the clientside says; invalid credentials.. |
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| 18:47.21 | somiaj | debi: and listen to greycat, is the partition actually gone or just not mounted. |
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| 18:48.58 | debi | It is gone because my windows 7 dvd cant see it. |
| 18:49.20 | djallow | Hi guys, I am trying to log in into a dropbear istance, but seems like the ssh doesn't recognize the password. I tried setting it up again and update initramfs with a mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.gz, but no good. |
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| 18:55.41 | debi | Somiaj, i have installed only cd1 and thought install the rest online but i cant do anythig now. |
| 18:55.55 | Cobra_Fast | http://pastebin.com/raTVaApU why is this ipv6 connection not working? it worked before i upgraded to jessie |
| 18:56.07 | debi | Windows is gone, no internet, basic utilities only. |
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| 18:57.09 | GPenguin | debi: time for tools like TestDisk maybe |
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| 18:57.37 | GPenguin | you can burn them to an USB stick |
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| 19:01.10 | debi | Somiaj, did you found any solutions? |
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| 19:03.26 | greycat | debi: you might want to try "/sbin/parted -l /dev/sda" (as root) just to completely verify that the partition table is what you think it is. |
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| 19:07.12 | debi | Greycat, i have booted windows 7 upto partition stage now, it says two partitions Disk0 primary 73 GB and Disk0 1004 logical, i have two primary and two logical partitions before. |
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| 19:07.50 | greycat | Ah, you're already out of Debian. Sorry. |
| 19:08.23 | debi | No i have not installed anything. |
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| 19:11.47 | debi | I just verified with ubuntu live cd using gparted ,it also tells me two partions only. |
| 19:12.06 | greycat | Well, I've upgraded one of my production work machines to jessie. And now I can personally confirm that /etc/rc.local still works. |
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| 19:13.28 | moozzz | hi, I've been using mpd (Music Player Daemon) for a while. Since I don't want mpd to be launched during startup, I tried to disable it via "sudo update-rc.d mpd disable", but it didn't help... how do I disable it? |
| 19:14.05 | greycat | moozzz: which version of Debian? |
| 19:14.11 | moozzz | testing |
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| 19:14.25 | dhaval2712 | Hello. I can't seem to install libtcl8.6. apt says error processing archive |
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| 19:14.38 | SynrG | debi: sounds like in the partitioning stage you asked it to use the disk with windows on it and told it to use the whole disk to install debian on and it created one partition for debian and one for swap |
| 19:14.40 | greycat | Then you probably want "systemctl list-units \*mpd\*" to find the systemd unit name, and then some other systemctl command to disable it. |
| 19:15.20 | greycat | dhaval2712: pastebin the whole error somewhere |
| 19:15.33 | dhaval2712 | http://ur1.ca/ml29p |
| 19:15.37 | debi | I have just clicked next next thats it. |
| 19:15.55 | greycat | huh, that's a new one to me |
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| 19:16.48 | debi | I have launched the installer from windows it should know that not to touch that partition. |
| 19:16.48 | SynrG | debi: without reading or understanding the default partition choices and warnings? |
| 19:17.24 | SynrG | You assume. I've never done it that way, but wouldn't assume |
| 19:18.09 | greycat | dhaval2712: are you doing this inside a chroot? |
| 19:18.17 | dhaval2712 | Yes? |
| 19:18.25 | dhaval2712 | Would that be a problem? |
| 19:18.29 | debi | It also saild no operating system detected on your hdd, do you want to continue , clicked yes. |
| 19:18.53 | greycat | dhaval2712: Apparently it is. See https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734193 and https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734454 |
| 19:18.54 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/734193 in pbuilder (open): «Please mount selinuxfs as read-only»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-01-04; last modified: 2014-01-17. |
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| 19:20.25 | debi | But SUSE yast control center detected it with ease, i have installed it multiple times ,faced no problem. |
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| 19:21.19 | debi | I thought debian would be better thats why i tried to switch. |
| 19:21.22 | SynrG | debi: so you knew there was an OS there and it said there wasn't and you clicked next anyway? |
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| 19:21.52 | debi | Exactly |
| 19:22.15 | dhaval2712 | I saw that, and didn't think it was important because it didn't really have to do with my package. Stupid mistake. Thanks anyway. |
| 19:22.24 | SynrG | Unfortunate |
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| 19:22.43 | greycat | dhaval2712: this is new to me, so I just googled the error and read through the resulting pages until I found something that looked significant |
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| 19:23.02 | kdeuser^ | Hello |
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| 19:23.34 | SynrG | debi: i think it tried to tell you things weren't OK and you told it to go ahead anyway :( |
| 19:23.51 | SynrG | Debian is good, but not mind reading |
| 19:24.07 | dhaval2712 | Also, it did not work. |
| 19:24.22 | kdeuser^ | I just installed debian 8 on my laptop which has a intel 3945 wireless card. I have installed the firmware and it works fine. Only problem is each time I reboot, I have to rmmod the iwlwifi, iwl3945 modules and reload them after which the card starts working |
| 19:24.42 | debi | Now can i recover my files? |
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| 19:25.56 | vegardx | Dump an image of the drive with ddrescue and start working with different data recovery tools from there. |
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| 19:28.42 | debi | SynG, should i install windows now, as i cant connect to internet via debian installation? |
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| 19:28.59 | vegardx | On the same drive?! |
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| 19:29.06 | greycat | If the machine has been nuked, and if you want Windows to be on it, then yeah. Install Windows first. |
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| 19:29.33 | vegardx | Installing Windows on it will likely make it almost impossible to recover any files from your old install. |
| 19:29.45 | vegardx | Debian is small. Windows is humongous. |
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| 19:30.24 | greycat | The question is whether there *IS* anything on the disk that needs to be saved. |
| 19:30.57 | debi | But i cannot connect d-link dongle to download any recovery software. |
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| 19:31.20 | debi | Debian cant detect it. |
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| 19:32.19 | greycat | You might need a Debian installer with non-free firmware added. |
| 19:32.23 | greycat | That's just a guess. |
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| 19:32.50 | VladolfPutler | do I need to install certain packages for a USB TV tuner to initialize in Debian? |
| 19:33.07 | VladolfPutler | /dev/video0 doesn't appear, and according to the guide I'm using on linuxtv it should |
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| 19:35.28 | mete | any hints where to get automake-1.13 from for jessie? |
| 19:35.46 | greycat | ,v automake |
| 19:35.47 | judd | Package: automake on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.11.1-1+squeeze1; wheezy: 1:1.11.6-1; stretch: 1:1.14.1-4; jessie: 1:1.14.1-4; sid: 1:1.14.1-4 |
| 19:36.04 | greycat | you need an older version of automake? probably upstream, then. |
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| 19:37.07 | mete | will build it from source... :D |
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| 19:37.49 | debi | Greycat, to download that installer i need be online,thus have to install windows. |
| 19:37.50 | Bob299 | Question, anyone know how to pin items to task bar on Debian 8? On 7.8 it was as simple as dragging and dropping >.> |
| 19:38.32 | greycat | 15:29 greycat> If the machine has been nuked, and if you want Windows to be on it, then yeah. Install Windows first. |
| 19:39.02 | debi | D link wants windows i dont. |
| 19:39.37 | greycat | Then I don't know. You don't have even temporary access to a different computer? |
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| 19:40.08 | debi | Nope i am on smartphone right now. |
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| 19:40.56 | DelphiWorld | yo all |
| 19:41.03 | DelphiWorld | how to activate APT::Force-LoopBreak |
| 19:41.04 | DelphiWorld | dpkg: APT::Force-LoopBreak |
| 19:41.05 | dpkg | DelphiWorld: no idea |
| 19:41.08 | moozzz | greycat: I am not sure whether you've overseen my anwser, but you asked about what version of debian I have, so I'm using debian testing |
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| 19:41.24 | Bob299 | So uhhh, nobody knows how to pin items to the task bar in deb 8 huh? |
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| 19:42.24 | greycat | 15:14 moozzz> testing |
| 19:42.31 | greycat | 15:14 greycat> Then you probably want "systemctl list-units \*mpd\*" to find the systemd unit name, and then some other systemctl command to disable it. |
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| 19:42.51 | moozzz | greycat: oh, sorry, I've overseen your anwser =) |
| 19:42.56 | greycat | update-rc.d is sysvinit stuff, not relevant to jessie |
| 19:43.14 | moozzz | greycat: good to know! |
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| 19:45.49 | debi | Greycat, back to windows ,started formatting it, btw i think my machine is windows comfortable |
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| 19:48.22 | darthanubis | lol |
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| 20:01.17 | T0ast_phone | Is it a good idea to switch to sysvinit? |
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| 20:03.23 | somiaj | T0ast_phone: depends. systemd does have a lot of nice things about it sysvinit cannot do. But if your use case can be satsified by sysvinit, I say it is then personal choice. |
| 20:03.35 | T0ast_phone | Oh ok |
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| 20:03.44 | somiaj | T0ast_phone: /msg dpkg remove systemd (if you are intersted in how to install sysvinit in jessie) |
| 20:04.01 | T0ast_phone | I hear a lot of complains about systemd |
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| 20:04.09 | T0ast_phone | Complaints* |
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| 20:05.09 | somiaj | T0ast_phone: people don't like change. I personally have issues with systemd but in terms of init systems it does have a lot of nice things about it. In the end I say that debian gives you the choice. I am choosing to learn systemd myself and brave the new way of doing things. But debian also fully supports sysvinit. |
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| 20:05.46 | somiaj | T0ast_phone: I think for most desktop users you won't notice the difference. If you are a server admin then I would like to assume you understand enough about your use case to know if the diference matters or if you can just use the one you prefer. |
| 20:05.55 | kWO901 | I upgraded google-chrome and now its blurry. any clue? |
| 20:06.04 | T0ast_phone | Oh ok |
| 20:06.19 | T0ast_phone | Thanks somiaj |
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| 20:07.13 | marjolein | kWO901: blurry? text? images? what? |
| 20:07.15 | somiaj | T0ast_phone: actually as a desktop user you may notice systemd boots faster. But that was the one thing I noticed was there is very little differnece in how my desktop worked after the change (besides for faster boots) |
| 20:07.42 | somiaj | kWO901: google-chrome really isn't supported here, debian only supports chromium. That being said, how did you upgrade? just got a new version from google's repo? |
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| 20:08.27 | kWO901 | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:08.34 | kWO901 | thats how i updated |
| 20:08.59 | kWO901 | then i uninstalled and installed again with .deb --- didnt help |
| 20:09.07 | somiaj | kWO901: anyways this is being provided via google's repos, so we can't really do much support. |
| 20:09.13 | somiaj | kWO901: what version of debian do y ou run? |
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| 20:09.19 | kWO901 | wheezy |
| 20:09.43 | somiaj | T0ast_phone: no, please keep conversations in the public room and it is considered polite to ask before messaging someone. |
| 20:09.51 | kWO901 | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae |
| 20:10.04 | T0ast_phone | Calm down |
| 20:10.19 | somiaj | kWO901: well there are a few thigns I can think of 1) googles repos are now building for jessie and there is some comadability issue with the libs in wheezy, in this case report a bug to google. |
| 20:10.55 | kWO901 | somiaj: how can i downgrade? |
| 20:11.09 | somiaj | kWO901: you may have older versions of chrome in /var/cache/apt/archives/google-chrome.., if you install one of the older versions do you have the issues |
| 20:11.23 | somiaj | kWO901: again this is not a package made by debian, getting older packages or support should be done though google. |
| 20:11.29 | somiaj | T0ast_phone: I am calm. |
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| 20:13.29 | T0ast_phone | O-ok ;_; |
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| 20:14.49 | khaije|io | #python |
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| 20:24.37 | Laiden294 | When using synaptic, why am I not able to remove something simple (for instance, a game) without removing the entire gnome suite O_o |
| 20:24.42 | greycat | oh whoops, he spammed me from a different channel |
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| 20:25.13 | marjolein | Laiden294: because Gnome's dependencies are a spiderweb |
| 20:25.28 | Laiden294 | marjolein: That's ridiculous. So it's all or nothing eh? |
| 20:25.57 | marjolein | no, just a lot or nothing - or a few if you;re lucky ;-) |
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| 20:27.01 | somiaj | Laiden294: this is probabaly to do with auto vs manually installs. |
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| 20:27.24 | somiaj | Laiden294: it coudl be that game is part of the 'gnome' meta package, so removing that game only removes the gnome meta package (and that doens't effect gnome being installed on your system). |
| 20:27.59 | somiaj | Laiden294: but now if all of gnome was installed via the meta package, then now all of gnome's packages are considered auto installed with out a manuall install package that removes them. |
| 20:28.02 | centrx | I am buying a printer. Will this one work well in Debian? It seems to require downloading a .deb from the Brother company, but this seems risky with changing package dependencies. Any other ideas? - http://www.amazon.com/Brother-HL-L2340DW-Printing-Wireless-Networking/dp/B00LZS5EEI/ref=sr_1_6?s=office-products&ie=UTF8&qid=1432200705&sr=1-6&keywords=printer |
| 20:28.35 | marjolein | I generally avoid Gnome, except for a few utilities I can't do without ;) |
| 20:28.53 | Laiden294 | marjolein: what interface would you recommend then? |
| 20:29.07 | marjolein | XFCE |
| 20:29.08 | somiaj | marjolein: yea, though I think the issue is less gnome and more just how auto vs manual packages work against a large metapackage like gnome. |
| 20:29.27 | somiaj | Laiden294: Is it really removing all of gnome or just the meta-package 'gnome'? |
| 20:29.28 | Laiden294 | marjorlein: is there a way I can remove gnome 3 and switch to XFCE without doing a complete reinstall |
| 20:29.30 | dondelelcaro | centrx: I actually use the older verison of that printer, and you shouldn't have to install anything for it to work |
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| 20:29.40 | centrx | dondelelcaro, Interesting, that sounds promising |
| 20:30.06 | greycat | !remove gnome |
| 20:30.07 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 20:30.18 | Laiden294 | It's gnome 3 |
| 20:30.20 | Laiden294 | that I'm on |
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| 20:30.25 | greycat | *shrug* |
| 20:30.28 | dondelelcaro | centrx: I mean, you'll need cups, and you might need to grab a PPD, but that's pretty much it |
| 20:30.28 | RDash | stalks greycat |
| 20:30.34 | centrx | right |
| 20:30.38 | RDash | left |
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| 20:31.04 | centrx | dondelelcaro, Thank you, I am going to make the move. Laser printers for $90, what year is this!? |
| 20:31.05 | somiaj | and the printer file maybe all that is included with the .deb |
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| 20:31.30 | RDash | centrx, I got one for 40 euro´s: d |
| 20:31.31 | RDash | :D |
| 20:31.34 | marjolein | somiaj: I just avoid the big have-it-all packages (KDE isn't much better) and install only single tools |
| 20:31.43 | RDash | Color and up to 300 DPI |
| 20:31.55 | RDash | but eventual print format is always 75 :P |
| 20:31.59 | marjolein | and XFCE plays nice with both KDE and GNOME tools |
| 20:32.08 | dondelelcaro | centrx: those printers are pretty awesome too; they have pretty cheap tonor |
| 20:32.09 | RDash | huggles mar |
| 20:32.11 | RDash | marjolein, |
| 20:32.11 | RDash | * |
| 20:32.15 | RDash | huggles marjolein * |
| 20:32.18 | dondelelcaro | centrx: not the best print quality, though |
| 20:32.25 | marjolein | waves :) |
| 20:32.30 | RDash | hides |
| 20:32.32 | centrx | Yeah it's mainly for my own use |
| 20:32.35 | centrx | is going to print documents on paper! |
| 20:32.52 | RDash | centrx, I got a better alternative... TABLETS! |
| 20:33.00 | centrx | Yeah that's what someone in ##hardware recommended |
| 20:33.03 | dondelelcaro | centrx: yeah, exactly; it's not like I'm going to be printing books or black and white prints or anything |
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| 20:33.17 | p0g0 | centrx: my dad developed photoconductors for IBM-their engineering prototype for their first copier was Big, and used a rabbits fur wheel to make the static charge. |
| 20:33.27 | RDash | centrx, well tablets are awesome until you use it as a fly swatter like I did :P |
| 20:33.32 | RDash | kinda burn´d |
| 20:33.41 | teraflop | better care about how much money does a toner cost |
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| 20:33.47 | marjolein | centx paper is nice tech: you can scribble notes on it with a 'pencil' |
| 20:33.48 | centrx | RDash, Hey, flies are people too, you deserved it |
| 20:33.53 | p0g0 | centrx: but that was another century. |
| 20:33.58 | RDash | centrx, lol |
| 20:34.07 | centrx | marjolein, I'll have to look that up, spelled pencil? |
| 20:34.20 | somiaj | marjolein: meta packages just make installing large collections useful. though maybe he just needs the gnome-core or whatever it is called metapackage installed |
| 20:34.25 | marjolein | yes. carbon technology |
| 20:34.39 | p0g0 | graphene? |
| 20:34.40 | centrx | p0g0, This was at IBM's veterinary office? |
| 20:34.48 | RDash | centrx, experia tablets are pretty neat though good alternative for toner printers :P |
| 20:35.06 | RDash | any ways I had a 20+ hour shift, going off to bed |
| 20:35.09 | marjolein | somiaj: yes. meta can be helpful but only if you really need the whole bunch, or nearly |
| 20:35.19 | p0g0 | centrx: The R&D was at Wolfe Road, Cuppertino, the production in Lexington, KY. |
| 20:35.32 | centrx | RDash, Yeah I need things I can take into my Farraday Cage/Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility |
| 20:35.37 | RDash | and finally had my new work clothing they put Rainbow Dash on it cause of my online nickname. Wile they know it stands for ¨Random Dash¨ |
| 20:36.05 | centrx | p0g0, I've heard of these places. Is this where the 'pencil' was invented? |
| 20:36.08 | marjolein | RDash: how nice! :) |
| 20:36.11 | p0g0 | centrx: the next thing that came out of the Wolfe road lab was SQL. |
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| 20:36.12 | RDash | centrx, that sucks today at PostNL we had a box that popped open with 250 vibrators rolling out |
| 20:36.25 | RDash | with also activated xD |
| 20:36.26 | marjolein | lol |
| 20:37.06 | RDash | marjolein, you should have seen those faces, you would have laugh your ass off |
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| 20:37.20 | RDash | oh btw it were open source dildo´s too ^^ |
| 20:37.29 | GPenguin | why cant you be RainbowDash for your fans :( |
| 20:37.37 | RDash | The mod :P |
| 20:37.45 | RDash | GPenguin, I worn that pants with pride... |
| 20:37.50 | GPenguin | haha |
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| 20:38.33 | sentriz | Hi. Being new to Linux, and needing to use mono, I must git clone it apparently. What is the right directory to do this in? /some_dir/mono |
| 20:38.54 | RDash | sentriz, apt-get install mono |
| 20:38.57 | T0ast_phone | GNU/Linux |
| 20:39.14 | sentriz | yes T0ast_phone |
| 20:39.21 | sentriz | RDash: I can't do that |
| 20:39.25 | RDash | sentriz, other wise if you want to do it from git put it in /opt/ |
| 20:39.33 | RDash | in like: /opt/mono |
| 20:39.41 | RDash | sentriz, why not? |
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| 20:39.52 | sentriz | RDash: |
| 20:39.52 | sentriz | E: Unable to locate package mono |
| 20:39.53 | DrOwl | Hi All i am trying to work out a problem with xfreerdp and Deb8, Seems to be related to talking to the network |
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| 20:40.29 | RDash | sentriz, apt-get install libmono-2.0-1 |
| 20:40.29 | sentriz | RDash: I've been told I need to built it from source, so I've got to git clone it. |
| 20:40.38 | sentriz | oh |
| 20:40.42 | RDash | sentriz, then what are you ¨actually¨ going to do? |
| 20:40.43 | sentriz | RDash: One sec |
| 20:40.49 | marjolein | I have mono runtime installed - from debian-supported repo |
| 20:40.50 | RDash | face palms |
| 20:41.03 | sentriz | RDash: what's the problem? |
| 20:41.16 | RDash | sentriz, what are you actually going to try to install/ |
| 20:42.08 | DrOwl | I thorght maybe just a bug with Remmina, but i have compiled a fresh build and the same things happens, and on two diffrent Debian 8 installs |
| 20:42.20 | RDash | sentriz, better try: mono-runtime |
| 20:42.31 | RDash | which is a better package |
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| 20:43.00 | sentriz | RDash: mono-runtime : Depends: mono-runtime-sgen (= 3.2.8+dfsg-10) |
| 20:43.08 | marjolein | RDash sentriz and that pulls in a few others you'll need |
| 20:43.16 | DrOwl | I could do with some help debugging it... |
| 20:43.23 | RDash | -.-¨ |
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| 20:43.54 | marjolein | mono-runtime-sgen also wants mono-runtime-common |
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| 20:44.16 | marjolein | ...and so on with one or a few more |
| 20:44.18 | RDash | marjolein, ssst... let him figure it out since he gives half answers himself... |
| 20:44.23 | RDash | :[ |
| 20:44.27 | marjolein | :) |
| 20:44.39 | sentriz | RDash: what? I'm looking for help here. |
| 20:44.39 | RDash | marjolein, you´re utterly evil for letting him install trojans |
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| 20:45.00 | marjolein | no, they're athenians |
| 20:45.04 | RDash | sentriz, I citate ¨<RDash> sentriz, what are you actually going to try to install/¨ |
| 20:45.10 | frikinz | Last week I've tried a few things with pulseaudio (to get sink to airplay to work.. which failed) . Now pulseaudio doesn't start at boot. How is it supposed to be started ? |
| 20:45.13 | RDash | marjolein, true quite alient though |
| 20:45.24 | RDash | alien |
| 20:45.27 | RDash | I need sleep :| |
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| 20:45.33 | marjolein | yes, but sometimes you have no choice if you need a task done |
| 20:45.52 | RDash | marjolein, true mono is quite bloat install Windows 10 instead... |
| 20:46.18 | sentriz | RDash: I'm trying to install mono 3.x, and I told you what happened when I ran the commands you gave me. How am I giving half of the answers myself? |
| 20:46.18 | marjolein | nope - I stopped at Vista and have a Win 7 disk uninstalled |
| 20:46.47 | RDash | sentriz, for what do you need mono... |
| 20:47.09 | sentriz | RDash: NZBdrone |
| 20:47.15 | RDash | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 20:47.35 | sentriz | ? |
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| 20:48.33 | RDash | sentriz, best thing to NOT install mono |
| 20:48.49 | RDash | but do it trough the repository |
| 20:49.06 | marjolein | sentriz: http://alternativeto.net/software/nzbdrone/ |
| 20:49.10 | marjolein | ducks |
| 20:49.17 | RDash | sentriz, https://github.com/Sonarr/Sonarr/wiki/Installation |
| 20:49.26 | sentriz | marjolein: I love NZBdrone, and it's not the issue here |
| 20:49.27 | RDash | go to debian/ubuntu part |
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| 20:49.46 | RDash | sentriz, there is thould be plain easy like copy/pasting |
| 20:49.51 | sentriz | RDash: that's exactly what I'm reading already |
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| 20:50.05 | sentriz | RDash: see the command "mono /opt/NzbDrone/NzbDrone.exe"? |
| 20:50.16 | RDash | yush |
| 20:50.35 | sentriz | oh hang on |
| 20:50.41 | RDash | sentriz, did you added that repo? |
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| 20:51.16 | sentriz | I'm not sure, I ran most of the commands there in order. But I see "mono 3.10 is included for x86/x64 in our repo (mirrored from Xamarin's)", is that the repo you guys are talking about? |
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| 20:51.56 | RDash | sentriz, follow this: http://www.mono-project.com/docs/getting-started/install/linux/ |
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| 20:52.23 | RDash | sentriz, and READ EVERY PIECE OF INFORMATION! |
| 20:52.33 | sentriz | RDash: cheers |
| 20:52.34 | marjolein | sshhh |
| 20:52.56 | RDash | sentriz, be sure to read it propperly, other wise you´ll end up in a bad linux experience |
| 20:53.28 | sentriz | well no-one wants that :P |
| 20:53.47 | RDash | nite all |
| 20:54.08 | sentriz | byee |
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| 20:54.13 | marjolein | RDash: sweet dreams |
| 20:54.43 | marjolein | wonders what made her install mono runtime in the first place |
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| 20:59.04 | marjolein | removes mono (until she may need it again, which is not now) |
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| 21:05.28 | sentriz | marjolein: just in case I need to know in the future, how did you remove it, and, if you did, everything related to it? |
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| 21:06.34 | marjolein | sentriz using Synaptic - I started with mon-runtime, which automatically marked a lot of dependencies, and then anything left with 'mono' in it and *their* dependencies |
| 21:07.15 | marjolein | all 'marked for complete removal' which is "purge" in apt-get/aptitude |
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| 21:07.55 | sentriz | ah, I see, like a GUI package manager |
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| 21:09.12 | marjolein | sentriz - it's still a front-end for apt, just like aptitude - but I like how it gives me better insight in dependencies and dependants |
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| 21:18.47 | marjolein | hammock time! good night all |
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| 21:37.23 | beepie | :/ |
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| 21:40.59 | andocromn | I just recently did a dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie, but after the upgrade i have been having issues with a package I use called xrdp |
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| 21:41.50 | andocromn | it basically does not work, when i try to log in using it, i just get a gnome error screen with the option to log out |
| 21:42.35 | somiaj | andocromn: the new gnome requires a certain level of gl (as mentioned in the resources) to run |
| 21:43.04 | somiaj | andocromn: I doubt the xrdp supports the gl remotelly or gnome can detect it, you may need another desktop for remote logins |
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| 21:43.56 | shay_shay | flashback mofde might work? |
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| 21:46.06 | somiaj | shay_shay: flashback mode? I thought they removed all fallback or various modes in gnome so you just can't use it without a paticular gl support. |
| 21:46.12 | andocromn | i have configured gnome to use gnome-classic which was enough to get passed the GL requirments in wheezy |
| 21:46.58 | somiaj | andocromn: there is no longer a fallback mode |
| 21:47.11 | somiaj | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#gnome-3d |
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| 21:49.41 | d3lphi | hey all. I am on Debian Jessie with Gnome-Shell and using Nemo or Nautilus. I have a directory with 100 JPG pictures which are about 6MB each. I'd like to shrink them to 1920x1080 px or smaller to reduce the file size. How can I do that with a single click (or easily) ? Preferrable via context-menu. Any help appreciated |
| 21:49.41 | andocromn | i am still using gnome-classic instead of 3D on the local console, unless classic in no longer fallback... |
| 21:50.28 | somiaj | andocromn: that was the fallback |
| 21:50.52 | somiaj | andocromn: again read that release note about gnome. But jessie gives you mate (gnome2 ish) and cinninom (gnome-shell fork) that I don't think have the gl requirements |
| 21:51.26 | somiaj | andocromn: oh wait, sorry yea I don't use gnome enough. I guess classic is more a theme than a graphics mode |
| 21:52.46 | somiaj | andocromn: many seem to like cinnamon-desktop |
| 21:53.20 | andocromn | ahh now it makes, theme doesn't imply graphics mode... but previously the classic worked in the fallback graphics mode |
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| 21:53.45 | andocromn | i guess i'll try cinnamon, i hate the GL junk anyway |
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| 21:55.08 | awal1 | andocrom: I believe that gnome3 classic mode is just a classic look, like gnome 2, but apart that gnome classic mode = gnome-shell, nothing different |
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| 21:55.15 | awal1 | andocromn: ^ |
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| 21:55.51 | awal1 | gnome 3 is gnome 3, no matters if one is in classic or g-shell |
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| 21:56.24 | t4nk214 | hello around :-) |
| 21:56.28 | d3lphi | there is a package on Debian called "nautilus-image-convert" which is doing exact what I'm looking for (=allowing the user to select some files within the file browser and right-click / context menu on them) but I'm looking for a similar thing that work with Nemo. Any clues? |
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| 21:56.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | andocromn, I usually don't even use a DE because I need so few of whatever it is that it does... so whenever I encounter problems, I switch to openbox as a window manager.. you can do that in the already running system with openbox --replace |
| 21:57.46 | nonewhatsover | can anyone recommend me a *free* book published in 2015 similar to the Debian Administrator's Handbook that covers Jessie? |
| 21:58.04 | andocromn | thanks guys, the classic theme using the new gnome shell really explains it |
| 21:58.10 | awal1 | andocromn: so classic mode and gnome shell and cinnamon use gtk3, 3d...just different looks |
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| 21:59.10 | t4nk214 | can someone help me to install/config "pidgin-twitter" plugin for pidgin in debian jessie ? |
| 21:59.13 | awal1 | if you want a non gtk3 and 3d requirements, try xfce or mate |
| 21:59.21 | andocromn | so does cinnamon have GL requirements? |
| 21:59.30 | awal1 | yes |
| 21:59.33 | fcp14 | hello, please i need an help, i try to import an .ovpn file and appears Invalid size (should be between 0 and 604800) in option: reneg-sec 2592000, i try to open on android phone and window$ and thats work i use debian jessie |
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| 21:59.38 | fcp14 | anyone can help ? thanks |
| 21:59.58 | andocromn | hmm. so chances are cinnamon won't work with xrdp either |
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| 22:00.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | nonewhatsover, you mean a book that someone wrote high-speed since jessie came out only a short while ago, so he had to take and sacrifice his year-vacation so he could write it in such a book in such a short time just so he can offer it for free and not get any money for it? |
| 22:01.29 | teraflop | fcp14: I just import the client.conf file never had an issue doing that way |
| 22:01.34 | awal1 | andocromn: I'm talking about jessie, not wheezy. in wheezy thing are different for gnome classic and shell |
| 22:01.48 | nonewhatsover | CutMeOwnThroat, not necessarily sacrifice his/her vacation |
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| 22:01.54 | andocromn | CutMeOwnThroat: I'm with you on not using a DE but there are times when i find the need for it. specifically when my link speed is too slow for x11 forwarding to work effectivly |
| 22:02.24 | andocromn | CutMeOwnThroat: do you know if openbox has GL requirements that will be problematic for xrdp? |
| 22:02.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | andocromn, err... a DE changes your x11 forwarding speed? :) |
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| 22:03.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | andocromn, I wouldn't think so...it's keeping things quite simple... but you best just check yourself |
| 22:03.26 | andocromn | CutMeOwnThroat: xrdp works great for slow link |
| 22:03.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | andocromn, should be just a single package, not like getting a whole DE to test... |
| 22:03.47 | jhutchins | andocromn: THat's odd, app forwarding should work better than whole-desktop. |
| 22:04.03 | t4nk214 | i habe a question about twitter/pidgin, can someone help? |
| 22:04.03 | teraflop | if you have low speed activate compression or just do not do xforwarding |
| 22:04.17 | d3lphi | solved, I did integrate a script into Nemo file manager and can shrink/resize my images as desired. |
| 22:04.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | nonewhatsover, haven't heard of it... but if and when you decide to write one, we'll probably recommend it :) |
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| 22:05.09 | andocromn | jhutchins: my theory is that it more actively updates with X11, xrdp may only get me a full screen refresh every 10 seconds, but it's more responive and doesn't act like it's frozen |
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| 22:06.07 | andocromn | teraflop: compression only does so much... do you have an alt suggestuon for x11 forwarding? |
| 22:06.20 | nonewhatsover | CutMeOwnThroat, it is extremely unlikely that i will write it because i installed debian on my laptop less than 2 months ago. i am a desktop newbie looking for up2date documentation on using jessie NOT installling it |
| 22:06.31 | teraflop | andocromn: with ssh? |
| 22:06.48 | teraflop | do compression too |
| 22:07.06 | jhutchins | nonewhatsover: You're the ideal person to write it - you know all of the questions. |
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| 22:07.24 | nonewhatsover | jhutchins, no i am not the ideal person |
| 22:07.50 | teraflop | andocromn: ssh -XC -c blowfish-cbc,arcfour .... |
| 22:07.58 | beepie | looking for a good luks guide (here it's 99% functional -- can boot with passphrase for an encrypted root but gets stuck when reaching initramfs -- loops on "Running /scripts/local-block") |
| 22:08.06 | beepie | :/ |
| 22:08.20 | nonewhatsover | jhutchins, i may know some of the question but hardly any of the answers. Therefore, i am NOT the one who can write the book |
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| 22:09.00 | andocromn | teraflop: the speed is not the only issue with x forwarding. with xrdp, the apps continue to run without crashing if the connection is lost |
| 22:09.20 | beepie | nonewhatsover, you can sed wheezy to a jessie.list under /etc/apt/sources.list.d , and apply apt-get update/dist-upgrade/upgrade |
| 22:09.21 | andocromn | whereas if i loose my link all my x forwarded apps crash and burn |
| 22:09.27 | Kasperle | beepie: installing debian on a luks volume always worked out of the box fo rme |
| 22:09.48 | beepie | Kasperle, gotta link? :) |
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| 22:10.14 | jhutchins | nonewhatsover: The problem for us old experienced guys is we just take care of stuff without thinking about it. |
| 22:10.14 | beepie | Kasperle, it works mostly here with the kernel load/booting after the root partition got decrypted (grub asked for passphrase) |
| 22:10.16 | Kasperle | beepie: not really. just manually partitioning stuff in the installer |
| 22:10.35 | Kasperle | one /boot partition, one "physical volume for encryption" iirc |
| 22:10.39 | beepie | Kasperle, i know i'm missing something but cant seem to find |
| 22:10.48 | Kasperle | then continue, add lvm, use the crypto volume as the physical volume |
| 22:10.50 | nonewhatsover | can anyone recommend me a *free* service similar to wetransfer that allows your to transfer files and does not require to state the sender's email address (not even a temporary or throwaway one)? |
| 22:10.58 | beepie | Kasperle, actually everything here is in one encrypted volume including boot |
| 22:11.01 | teraflop | andocromn: there is xpra |
| 22:11.14 | jhutchins | nonewhatsover: When it comes to everyday use though, there really won't be anything jessie specific. There are probably some guides to linux in general, and to using Gnome. |
| 22:11.17 | andocromn | CutMeOwnThroat: you were right, only 7 additional depenancies required for openbox |
| 22:11.27 | beepie | Kasperle, the kernel boots |
| 22:11.28 | Kasperle | beepie: where does it load the initramfs from, then? |
| 22:11.43 | teraflop | andocromn: even tmux over Xvfb |
| 22:11.48 | jhutchins | nonewhatsover: You're more likely to find solutions to specific tasks. |
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| 22:12.17 | nonewhatsover | jhutchins, systemd, mate-desktop are just one of the few but very imporatnt things that are new to jessie |
| 22:12.32 | Kasperle | beepie: all setups i've seen so far had unencrypted /boot with grub, kernel, initramfs, and everything else encrypted |
| 22:12.33 | beepie | Kasperle, grub supports it, but for some reason there is a problem here when initramfs gets hit |
| 22:12.42 | beepie | Kasperle, true.. but the latest grub supports luks |
| 22:12.47 | jhutchins | nonewhatsover: Right, and systemd is far from adequately documented. |
| 22:12.59 | Kasperle | beepie: ah, that's nice. but i'm afraid i can't help you with that, then |
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| 22:13.07 | jhutchins | nonewhatsover: In linux, anything that is completely documented is also deprecated and obsolete. |
| 22:13.07 | beepie | Kasperle, you just have to add cryptdevice to the /etc/default/grub cmdline and omit "quiet" .. and update-grub2 works |
| 22:13.31 | nonewhatsover | jhutchins, systemd is indeed far from adequately documented for desktop newbies |
| 22:14.22 | jhutchins | nonewhatsover: For us old hands as well, unless we've been working on developing it. |
| 22:14.25 | nonewhatsover | jhutchins, are you saying that wheezy is deprecated and obsolete? |
| 22:14.26 | Kasperle | beepie: interesting. i'm wondering how they do that though, as grub normally relies on loading modules and additional stages from another partition |
| 22:14.37 | beepie | Kasperle, grub has the crypt/luks support module |
| 22:14.42 | andocromn | teraflop: i had not seen either of these before, i will give them a try. if nothing else it looks like a better solution for one of my applications |
| 22:14.49 | Kasperle | beepie: that would mean all the crypto stuff would have to be in the initial stage |
| 22:14.50 | beepie | Kasperle, here i'm testing it in vbox |
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| 22:15.19 | Kasperle | beepie: in the mbr or wherever that stuff is put these days |
| 22:15.19 | beepie | Kasperle, i'm currently testing wit the passphrase.. but you can also use a key |
| 22:15.32 | jhutchins | andocromn: It takes about two years to get a hardcopy book published. |
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| 22:15.49 | nonewhatsover | jhutchins, gotcha! |
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| 22:16.16 | beepie | Kasperle, you'll need to add the crypt-enabler parameter in the /etc/default/grub .. so there's 2 or 3 changes in that file before update-grub2 |
| 22:16.27 | beepie | Kasperle, i've actually set this up with debootstrap |
| 22:16.37 | teraflop | andocromn: youll know better than anywone else, anyway you know now a couple of alternatives |
| 22:16.44 | nonewhatsover | can anyone recommend me a *free* service similar to wetransfer that allows your to transfer files(say 100 MB) and does not require to state the sender's email address (not even a temporary or throwaway one)? |
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| 22:17.29 | andocromn | jhutchins: what about boox? |
| 22:17.36 | beepie | Kasperle, i think i tried installing to a luks volume with the installer -- couldn't apply a formatting |
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| 22:18.05 | beepie | Kasperle, i wonder what you did different, here it didn't work.. maybe you did it with wheezy |
| 22:18.12 | beepie | :) |
| 22:18.44 | MrTest_ | is someone here in this irc-channel with pidgin? |
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| 22:19.40 | RetroshareHelpMe | Hello |
| 22:20.26 | RetroshareHelpMe | Where can I find lubupnp3 for wheezy? |
| 22:20.44 | RetroshareHelpMe | libupnp3* |
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| 22:21.38 | beepie | libupnpn4 /6 is avail, but not 3 (jessie) |
| 22:22.00 | RetroshareHelpMe | The reason I ask is because retroshare requires this dependency |
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| 22:22.11 | RetroshareHelpMe | I'm on wheezy debian |
| 22:22.21 | beepie | actaully 4 is avail on wheezy |
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| 22:22.37 | RetroshareHelpMe | Yes, but will that substitute for 3? |
| 22:22.38 | beepie | (6 is avail on jessie) |
| 22:22.45 | beepie | likely |
| 22:23.16 | beepie | usually it is the case |
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| 22:25.23 | RetroshareHelpMe | I'm still getting an error |
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| 22:26.17 | jhutchins | ,v retroshare |
| 22:26.18 | judd | No package named 'retroshare' was found in amd64. |
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| 22:26.51 | RetroshareHelpMe | I'm on i386 |
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| 22:27.44 | andocromn | CutMeOwnThroat: so openbox is installed, and i'm not hating it... but i don't like the lack of a taskbar... is that just how openbox is? taskbarless? |
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| 22:29.01 | RetroshareHelpMe | Any Retroshare users here? |
| 22:29.15 | RetroshareHelpMe | Well it wont even run on wheezy I guess, so probably not |
| 22:29.31 | Kasperle | beepie: i set up debian with luks encryption with a variety of releases, but i didn't try jessie yet (didn't have the need to reinstall) |
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| 22:30.39 | beepie | Kasperle, i know I could do raid1 without issues with the partitioning (expert option), but I'm very new to luks so I mean it could be something I'm doing wrong.. |
| 22:31.35 | beepie | andatche, by default yes |
| 22:33.04 | beepie | i suppose the luks users are sleeping |
| 22:33.06 | beepie | :) |
| 22:33.17 | Kasperle | beepie: from memory, here's what i normally do: create two partitions, one for /boot, and one as a "physical volume for encryption". then there's some option to commit that and initialize the crypto volume, iirc. once that's done i configure lvm, i.e., create a volume group, add the luks device as a physical volume, and that add logical volumes for swap, / and potentially other filesystems |
| 22:33.35 | beepie | Kasperle, i'm not a really advanced setup though.. here I'm basically using just one root filesystem directly on the volume |
| 22:33.44 | beepie | Kasperle, (no lvm -- though the dm-crypt module is used) |
| 22:33.59 | xar- | how do I mitigate LogJam under Apache 2.2? |
| 22:34.07 | beepie | Kasperle, i'll try that again.. |
| 22:34.12 | beepie | Kasperle, (vbox atm) |
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| 22:34.51 | Kasperle | beepie: well, the variant i'm describing also gives you encrypted suspend to disk, that's why i'm normally doing it that way for desktops/laptops |
| 22:35.52 | Kasperle | beepie: with lvm set up on top of luks, the system only asks for one passphrase, unlocks the volume and everything else just falls into place |
| 22:36.20 | beepie | Kasperle, yes i know.. but here the kernel actually boots |
| 22:36.28 | beepie | Kasperle, and it is on an encrypted volume :) |
| 22:36.51 | beepie | for some reason there's a stalling point i dont know why (must have something to do with initramfs) |
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| 22:37.29 | Kasperle | beepie: initramfs supports breaking to a shell at various stages |
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| 22:37.47 | beepie | Kasperle, yes i get a shell, there a way i can resume ? |
| 22:37.47 | Kasperle | beepie: by adding break=top or similar stuff to the kernel command line |
| 22:38.26 | Kasperle | beepie: you could try manually opening the luks device |
| 22:38.55 | Kasperle | beepie: e.g. "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda2 sda2_crypt" |
| 22:39.10 | Kasperle | and then see what happens if you exit the shell |
| 22:39.29 | beepie | Kasperle, yes all that works |
| 22:39.38 | beepie | Kasperle, i can do that without problem.. |
| 22:40.02 | beepie | Kasperle, i can see what i was doing wrong with the installer .. but that doesn't concern me atm.. maybe i can see what it sets up differently |
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| 22:41.08 | Kasperle | beepie: well, i'll have to call it a night now. good luck :) |
| 22:41.13 | beepie | Kasperle, thanks |
| 22:41.16 | beepie | Kasperle, gn |
| 22:41.36 | Kasperle | or is it "call it a day"? anyway, night ;) |
| 22:41.48 | beepie | here's its evening .. |
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| 22:42.00 | beepie | not much guides out on this i guess its all trial and error |
| 22:42.07 | beepie | Kasperle, gn and good-day :) |
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| 22:50.40 | gryf | erh, I just don't know how to search into past message into rssi. Someone replied about the icedove issue I reported before or was that just questions/comments/trolls ? |
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| 22:54.45 | andocromn | I installed openbox, and configured it as my default on my console session, but it looks like xrdp is still trying to use gnome. anyone have an idea on how to switch that? |
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| 22:57.54 | somiaj | andocromn: I'm unfamilar with xrdp, but lots of things default to using what is in $HOME/.xsession if that file exitss |
| 22:58.21 | somiaj | so you can launch openbox from .xsession. If xrdp doesn't use that i'm unsure the way to configure what session it loads |
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| 22:59.35 | andocromn | i don't have an .xsession in my home |
| 22:59.40 | somiaj | create one |
| 22:59.56 | andocromn | ok, what should i but in it? the path to openbox? |
| 23:00.00 | somiaj | basically |
| 23:00.15 | somiaj | exec /usr/bin/openbox |
| 23:00.20 | somiaj | or whatever binary launches the wm |
| 23:00.55 | andocromn | cool i'll try that |
| 23:02.18 | somiaj | andocromn: if that doens't work, looks like you can write a script and configure xrdp directly, http://askubuntu.com/questions/135483/how-to-configure-xrdp-to-start-cinnamon-as-default-desktop-session |
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| 23:08.28 | srg | How can I sync my clock on a laptop? It's not on 24/7 and it doesn't have network all the time. |
| 23:08.33 | srg | Should I just run ntpdate manually? |
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| 23:09.47 | teraflop | ntpdate without internet sounds black magic |
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| 23:10.29 | srg | well, when there is network. hence the "run manually" part :-P |
| 23:10.47 | teraflop | heh |
| 23:10.47 | srg | I guess I was asking if there's a NTPd that "plays nice" with laptop-type conditions. |
| 23:11.22 | srg | I suppose I could just cronjob `ntpdate` and pipe the output to /dev/null (for when it complains there's no network) |
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| 23:12.03 | Brigo | srg, or you can launch the daemon with the network connection. |
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| 23:14.48 | srg | I don't think I'm quite awesome enough to know how to do that |
| 23:15.05 | srg | I'm trying to avoid touching anything regarding systemd and the init system |
| 23:15.11 | srg | for as long as I humanly can. |
| 23:15.17 | teraflop | srg: i think that you can also do ntpd -q, theres no need of the daemon being running and the command runs and quit. |
| 23:15.26 | somiaj | srg: what do you use to bring your internet on and off the network? |
| 23:15.39 | srg | somiaj: ifup/ifdown |
| 23:15.41 | srg | I do it manually. |
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| 23:16.12 | somiaj | srg: so add a 'post-up' script to the entry in /etc/network/interfaces that runs a script to bring it up |
| 23:16.26 | srg | oh, that's easier than I thought. |
| 23:16.28 | somiaj | srg: and then run a pre-down (I think that is it) to turn off the server when you bring it down. |
| 23:16.31 | teraflop | also if ntp -q fails theres no error |
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| 23:18.44 | somiaj | srg: note if you use wpasupplicant for a wifi device, the device can be considered 'up' so post-up runs before it has gotten the ip from dhcp |
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| 23:20.08 | srg | hm |
| 23:20.11 | srg | thanks for the ideas guys |
| 23:20.22 | srg | I've logged the chat and I'll play with getting it working |
| 23:20.47 | teraflop | nah its being logged right now anyway |
| 23:21.02 | srg | my client doesn't log by default |
| 23:21.06 | srg | locally, i mean |
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| 23:28.59 | teraflop | well there are things like e.g http://cowboyjob.com/member/srg?page=1 ^ |
| 23:29.21 | teraflop | http://cowboyjob.com/member/teraflop?page=5 and so on ... |
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| 23:29.49 | srg | dafuq |
| 23:29.56 | teraflop | yeah that scares me |
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| 23:30.42 | srg | wow, yeah |
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| 23:48.57 | srg | I got my Stretch box down to 227 installed packages :D |
| 23:50.22 | acz32 | how? |
| 23:50.33 | srg | By uninstalling stuff I don't need |
| 23:50.48 | srg | I just run two things on it, a httpd and a tor relay |
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| 23:50.53 | acz32 | i have almost 1000 |
| 23:51.08 | acz32 | you must use only a WM or something |
| 23:51.16 | srg | it's headless, no xorg |
| 23:51.33 | acz32 | oh, that makes more sense |
| 23:51.41 | srg | yeah, it's pretty minimal |
| 23:52.11 | srg | pushes almost 11 MB/s on the tor network |
| 23:52.30 | acz32 | fast |
| 23:53.43 | acz32 | why put stretch on a server though? |
| 23:55.30 | srg | I like the challenge, heh |
| 23:55.38 | srg | I log into it daily and install updates |
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