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| 00:07.32 | shay_shay | wonders how many crunchbang refugees are here posing as debian users |
| 00:07.58 | bazhang | not many as crunchbang has folded |
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| 00:12.53 | happynewyear13 | can you telll me the brand of this laptop? it's blurry because it's captured from video: http://i.imgur.com/PMGI7yU.png |
| 00:13.31 | bazhang | try ##hardware happynewyear13 |
| 00:13.45 | happynewyear13 | hey bazhang |
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| 00:13.50 | bazhang | hi |
| 00:13.55 | happynewyear13 | ;) |
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| 00:17.34 | happynewyear13 | bazhang, it says :Cannot send to channel #hardware |
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| 00:18.00 | shay_shay | happynewyear13: ##hardware |
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| 00:18.51 | happynewyear13 | shay_shay, * ##hardware :Cannot send to channel |
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| 00:20.11 | happynewyear13 | never been in that channel before |
| 00:21.48 | gryf | gewd fur ya |
| 00:22.45 | abrotman | happynewyear13: you did a /join ##hardware first .. right ? |
| 00:22.59 | happynewyear13 | abrotman, yeah im there |
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| 00:24.50 | kWO901 | is there any app for debian, like retrica ? |
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| 00:25.37 | mtn | happynewyear13: from the topic in ##hardware: "If you can't talk identify with NickServ" |
| 00:25.38 | abrotman | kWO901: Which does what? |
| 00:25.51 | themill | abrotman: it enables mind reading capabilities over irc |
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| 00:26.38 | happynewyear13 | mtn, thanks |
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| 00:28.11 | Tau | is it possible to install android studio from apt? |
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| 00:28.25 | srg | Tau: No |
| 00:28.34 | srg | Tau: There are some android tools, but not androidstudio |
| 00:28.53 | Tau | http://lintut.com/install-android-studio-via-ppa-in-ubuntu-and-mint-linux/ |
| 00:28.56 | Tau | i found this link. |
| 00:29.00 | Tau | would it work on debian? |
| 00:29.15 | srg | it's *strongly* recommended NOT to use ppa's in debian |
| 00:29.16 | kWO901 | abrotman: photo editing, but with set templates... |
| 00:29.27 | kWO901 | adding filters basically |
| 00:29.29 | abrotman | nope, ont getting it ... |
| 00:29.39 | abrotman | kWO901: there are tons of photo editing apps |
| 00:29.43 | abrotman | gimp even has scrpiting |
| 00:29.46 | srg | Tau: using external repositories can mess up your whole apt system |
| 00:29.53 | srg | It happens more often than youd' think |
| 00:29.59 | Tau | i see. |
| 00:30.15 | kWO901 | abrotman: ok i'll try to play with gimp and see how it works out. thx |
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| 00:53.05 | xar- | does anyone have a link to a debian 7 iso amd64 download? |
| 00:53.13 | xar- | the website is impossible lol |
| 00:53.23 | abrotman | why not install 8? |
| 00:53.33 | xar- | i can't systemd for my life |
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| 00:54.04 | abrotman | Seems it would be better to choose a distro that isn't planning to migrate to systemd (or has already done so) |
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| 00:54.13 | Devastator | so you will basically be trapped in 7 for life? |
| 00:54.31 | abrotman | xar-: you do realize you don't have to use systemd on Jessie, right? |
| 00:54.48 | gryf | xar-: isn't their a debian fork ? |
| 00:54.50 | xar- | i did an install of jessie in a VM, and I didn't see an option to not use systemd during the installer |
| 00:54.55 | gryf | debuan, or something |
| 00:55.09 | abrotman | not useful |
| 00:55.14 | abrotman | xar-: so remove it after the install |
| 00:55.21 | abrotman | dpkg: tell xar- about systemd-shim |
| 00:55.22 | xar- | right now, just to get up and running, im trying to find a debian 7 iso link |
| 00:55.38 | abrotman | dpkg: tell xar- about remove systemd |
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| 00:58.00 | xar- | any idea where I can find it? |
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| 01:17.09 | Tau | i need to use the command make-jpkg |
| 01:17.14 | Tau | but it seems there is no such command. |
| 01:17.23 | Tau | i tried to use apt-cache to find which package it belongs to. |
| 01:17.27 | Tau | i got nothing from. |
| 01:17.45 | Tau | i did a quick search on google and it seems to not help either. |
| 01:18.00 | somiaj | Tau: it is in java-package |
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| 01:19.07 | Tau | okay, somiaj , how would i install it from debian? |
| 01:19.17 | Tau | i'm considering to leave debian aside and install mint. |
| 01:19.23 | Tau | or the shitty ubuntu thing. |
| 01:19.33 | Tau | i'm getting tired. |
| 01:19.42 | Tau | with this java thing shit. |
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| 01:20.29 | Tau | other day i was horny as fuck, i tried to watch porn and i had to keep for two fucking hours reading shitty quick howtos on installing java flash. |
| 01:20.34 | Tau | this shitty is driving me crazy. |
| 01:22.55 | abrotman | Seems a good way to get help |
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| 01:24.17 | SirLagz | ... |
| 01:24.22 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:24.43 | cogs | debian 8 lxde with logitech usb headset. sound doesn't work (aplay .../Noise.wav makes no sound). aplay -l lists the headset. what am i missing? |
| 01:24.56 | SirLagz | cogs: did you direct the sound to your headset ? |
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| 01:25.03 | cogs | how is that done? |
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| 01:25.27 | SirLagz | cogs: depends on what you're trying to do...What application are you trying to use with your headset ? |
| 01:25.41 | cogs | to listen to audio from anything |
| 01:26.00 | SirLagz | cogs: you could just disable your onboard sound card... |
| 01:26.02 | cogs | tho i'd like the mic to work too, the goal is mumble |
| 01:26.52 | SirLagz | I had similar issues with a Sennheiser USB headset, but I just set the audio input and output settings in the application that I wanted to use the headset for - in my case it was SFL |
| 01:26.55 | cogs | whats the equiv to the windows playback devices setup? |
| 01:27.04 | cogs | is there a volume thing i need to install? |
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| 01:31.22 | cogs | maybe i need to run apt-get install lxpanel-sane-defaults to get the plugins that i expect |
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| 01:33.09 | cogs | ok nm theyre under add |
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| 01:34.28 | cogs | thats just for alsamixer which doesnt help |
| 01:34.37 | shay_shay | who knows what "windows playback devices" even means |
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| 01:35.50 | shay_shay | thats just a list of sound devices which are recognized and have drivers? |
| 01:35.53 | cogs | it's proprietary garbage for easy way to switch between speakers and headset |
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| 01:36.02 | cogs | ya |
| 01:36.03 | shay_shay | we have pulse audio |
| 01:36.10 | cogs | ok where |
| 01:36.15 | shay_shay | on xfce? |
| 01:36.19 | cogs | no |
| 01:36.20 | cogs | lxde |
| 01:36.24 | shay_shay | no idea |
| 01:37.34 | crazydip | I would assume lxde is treated like xfce and other DE and use pulse audio as their sound "backend"... what lxde uses to actually control pulse audio is another question |
| 01:38.06 | crazydip | graphically control |
| 01:38.09 | shay_shay | Cogs see if you have a /usr/bin/pavucontrol |
| 01:38.48 | cogs | nope |
| 01:39.03 | shay_shay | how about xfce4-mixer |
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| 01:39.41 | LeandroLuiz | you've to install pavucontrol[ |
| 01:39.51 | cogs | this is lxde with no xfce bits |
| 01:40.11 | cogs | so alsa can not switch from speakers to headphones at all? |
| 01:40.24 | cogs | could it be more useless? |
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| 01:40.35 | shay_shay | cogs: just apt-get install pavucontrol |
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| 01:42.51 | cogs | done |
| 01:43.20 | cogs | it attaches to the volume control thing, which is nice, but it's more complicated |
| 01:43.56 | shay_shay | D: |
| 01:44.00 | cogs | i half expected it not to attach by default |
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| 01:44.22 | shay_shay | well the "volume control thing" is controlling the same pulseaudio backend |
| 01:44.29 | shay_shay | so they're always in sync |
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| 01:48.22 | cogs | the input part seems right. mic "seems" to work |
| 01:48.32 | cogs | the output was down, so i changed it to 100% |
| 01:48.43 | cogs | what should be used to test? |
| 01:48.50 | cogs | i play aplay Noice.wav, still doesnt work |
| 01:49.11 | somiaj | if you are using pulse, aplay will not work |
| 01:49.43 | somiaj | (that is if your soundcard gets locked when pulse opens it) |
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| 01:50.41 | cogs | do i need to "set as fallback", does that mean "set as default"? |
| 01:50.44 | cogs | also |
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| 01:50.55 | cogs | atm i'm hearing mic input thru the head phones |
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| 01:56.42 | shay_shay | neat! |
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| 01:56.50 | cogs | ok set as default was a yes. now just need to stop the silly mic crap |
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| 01:59.25 | cogs | how does one stop the mic input from being heard in the head phones? |
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| 02:02.24 | cogs | ^ pulseaudio |
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| 02:09.21 | pirithous | unplug the mic |
| 02:09.40 | cogs | this is a usb headset |
| 02:10.56 | pirithous | maybe PulseAudio Volume Control |
| 02:11.02 | cogs | thats what i'm using |
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| 02:11.20 | cogs | is there a control for "talkback"? |
| 02:12.02 | cogs | aka hearing mic input in head phones |
| 02:12.14 | abrotman | cogs: mute it |
| 02:12.32 | cogs | right but then will the mic work for programs? |
| 02:12.47 | abrotman | ... |
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| 02:19.35 | cogs | ok i gave up. enough of that bullshit |
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| 02:19.54 | JoLeen | A stupid question---but only 1: this USB stick has 8 GB capacity, but the Live .iso took up only 1.2 GB ... is it possible to put more .isos in the same stick? |
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| 02:20.29 | sydney_untangle | JoLeen: Actually, its not stupid. ;) I've never tried, but ive wondered also. |
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| 02:20.58 | JoLeen | sydney_untangle: =) ... all that precious space ... |
| 02:21.00 | shay_shay | its possible using grub |
| 02:21.27 | shay_shay | you'll have to install grub on the thumb drive and loop not the iso files |
| 02:21.38 | shay_shay | but its not worth the time honestly |
| 02:21.50 | shay_shay | buy another thumb drive, its cheaper |
| 02:22.08 | shay_shay | s/not/boot |
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| 02:23.39 | JoLeen | shay_shay: ok; thanks for clue. |
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| 02:36.39 | xar- | sorry I had to step away, forgive me, does anyone know of debian 7.8 .iso links still available for download? thanks |
| 02:36.44 | xar- | (amd64) |
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| 02:38.22 | centrx | xar-, yes, it's there |
| 02:38.42 | xar- | thanks for your response, can you provide a link? |
| 02:39.00 | abrotman | Just install Jessie |
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| 02:40.21 | xar- | unfortunately I don't have good familiarity with systemd, there have to be links somewhere for 7.8 |
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| 02:41.29 | shay_shay | you can use sysv with Jessie... but why not just learn? you will have to eventually |
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| 02:42.22 | xar- | unfortunately my time is rather limited, I simply can't right now |
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| 02:45.01 | xar- | honestly, I really shouldn't have to justify my use case, I simply need the older legacy version for work purposes; I understand it's not cutting edge, that's why I want it. |
| 02:45.44 | xar- | I can use the older version and still deploy it responsibly. Frustrating. |
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| 02:52.31 | |aaron | i really screwed up.. was trying to do a clean reinstall of mysql-server and deleted /usr/bin/mysqld (like an idiot)... ive dpkg --purged all the mysql-* packages but now when i try to install mysql-server it gives me an error about the missing /usr/bin/mysqld and hangs forever |
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| 02:52.49 | |aaron | if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated |
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| 02:53.16 | shay_shay | xar-: wheezy will still be supported until may 2018... you will have fewer people who remember the finer details of it by that time though |
| 02:53.53 | xar- | i'm familiar with the lifecycle |
| 02:53.54 | xar- | just.. |
| 02:53.57 | xar- | nevermind lol |
| 02:54.34 | xar- | i know you're trying to help, or you think you're being helpful, or whatever, just forget it. i'll keep looking. |
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| 03:01.03 | mcmillhj | so I just installed jessie on my xps13 DE and now my machine won't boot. Any thoughts on how to fix this? |
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| 03:02.31 | sydney_untangle | mcmillhj: Fresh install? |
| 03:02.59 | mcmillhj | sydney_untangle: yeah, from the current netinst image |
| 03:03.06 | abrotman | xar-: http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/ |
| 03:03.25 | sydney_untangle | So it has no de... hmm. |
| 03:03.37 | abrotman | it could .. |
| 03:03.44 | sydney_untangle | mcmillhj: How far does it boot? |
| 03:04.54 | sydney_untangle | Eg, whats the last message it shows. |
| 03:06.01 | mcmillhj | sydney_untangle: I installed in UEFI mode and am trying to boot into that. I get to a screen that says ">>Checking Media presence\n>>Media Present....\n>>Start PXE in IPv4. |
| 03:06.18 | mcmillhj | booting into legacy mode gets me "no bootable devices found" |
| 03:06.34 | xar- | thank you abrotman, very much appreciated, it really is. |
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| 03:07.53 | mcmillhj | then eventually I get "No bootable device found" in UEFI mode |
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| 03:34.54 | grantwu | Can I ask for btrfs help here? |
| 03:34.58 | grantwu | #btrfs seems dead |
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| 03:38.10 | shay_shay | grantwu: #btrfs is usually pretty active in my experience but I guess it depends on the time of day. I use btrfs on all of my machines but I'm pretty drunk right now D: |
| 03:38.52 | shay_shay | !just ask |
| 03:38.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 03:39.15 | grantwu | Okay. http://pastebin.com/9nk0XZcD is the output of btrfsck |
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| 03:40.29 | grantwu | Does anyone know how to possibly repair this? |
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| 03:41.02 | grantwu | I have force powered off this machine before, which might be the cause of the issue. It's an SSD, and smartctl doesn't report any issues, afaik |
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| 03:42.25 | shay_shay | grantwu: This is Debian support |
| 03:42.26 | grantwu | Also, btrfs scrub says ERROR: can't access '/dev/sda9', which is odd |
| 03:42.38 | shay_shay | !based on debian |
| 03:42.39 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 03:42.58 | vvarcken | what does a maintainer do ? |
| 03:43.02 | grantwu | shay_shay: I'm on an Ubuntu live disk |
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| 03:43.25 | grantwu | Debian Jessie is the distribution on /dev/sda9 |
| 03:43.39 | grantwu | Sorry, I didn't want to go through the hassle of making a Debian live USB... |
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| 03:44.49 | shay_shay | grantwu: okay... don't worry about it |
| 03:45.23 | grantwu | So, I haven't noticed any issues with the partition in day-to-day usage |
| 03:45.31 | grantwu | I only discovered this while trying to resize/move this with GParted |
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| 03:51.58 | vvarcken | grantwu how's it going |
| 03:52.08 | mdim | hi folks |
| 03:52.13 | vvarcken | I'm a btrfsucker too |
| 03:52.26 | grantwu | vvarcken: Hey |
| 03:52.30 | grantwu | Uh... meh, I guess |
| 03:52.54 | grantwu | I kind of need to get this issue fixed, I need to resize the partition so I can run a full bitcoin node :/ |
| 03:53.02 | vvarcken | you're trying to scrub from a live ubantu cd ? |
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| 03:53.21 | grantwu | Correct |
| 03:53.44 | grantwu | mdim: Hey |
| 03:54.02 | grantwu | So, the btrfs partition shouldn't be mounted. |
| 03:54.09 | grantwu | mountpoint -q has a return value of 1 |
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| 03:54.37 | mdim | how to use jessie-backports? |
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| 03:55.24 | grantwu | mdim: Have you looked at http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 03:55.49 | vvarcken | grantwu, so did you try it mounted before by calling scrub with the mountpoint ? |
| 03:56.02 | grantwu | vvarcken: Er, no, I haven't mounted it |
| 03:56.11 | grantwu | Are you saying I should mount the filesystem before scrubbing it? |
| 03:56.25 | grantwu | Huh, that's odd, but alright, I'll try that |
| 03:58.05 | grantwu | oh, hrm, it worked after I mounted it |
| 03:58.31 | mdim | grantwu: thx. Seems like I already have it enabled |
| 03:59.03 | mdim | my next question would be: how to install Docker? At https://docs.docker.com/installation/debian/ they say that is it in jessie-backports, but it ain't |
| 03:59.28 | grantwu | sudo apt-get install complains it isn't there? |
| 04:00.01 | mdim | grantwu: exactly |
| 04:00.23 | Rusty1 | what does apt-cache policy docker report? |
| 04:00.41 | vvarcken | what's the appropriate package nage |
| 04:00.45 | mdim | it's docker.io coz there's an older package named docker, but that's a different program |
| 04:01.08 | mdim | Rusty1: I get empty results (none) |
| 04:01.09 | grantwu | What the hell, a scrub finishes in 19 seconds and reports nothing |
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| 04:02.09 | vvarcken | grantwu: did you expect to have to scrub a lot of stuff ? |
| 04:02.21 | vvarcken | I think the dflt is not to print anything |
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| 04:03.49 | vvarcken | grantwu: check desg |
| 04:03.56 | vvarcken | dmesg |
| 04:04.25 | grantwu | vvarcken: Well, no, but I would have expected it to have mentioned the errors that btrfsck is noting |
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| 04:04.39 | grantwu | Uh, how do I check dmesg from a different system? |
| 04:04.44 | grantwu | Or should I just reboot into Debian... |
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| 04:05.23 | vvarcken | hm, i think you livecd should log it, anything from $ dmesg| grep btrfs |
| 04:05.30 | vvarcken | ? |
| 04:05.47 | Rusty1 | mdim: did you apt-get update after adding backports to your sources? |
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| 04:09.10 | grantwu | vvvarcken: No error messages |
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| 04:09.55 | vvarcken | perhaps no errors then |
| 04:09.59 | grantwu | I'm going to reboot into Debian, see what it says there |
| 04:10.09 | grantwu | Well, btrfsck reports errors.... |
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| 04:10.37 | vvarcken | huh |
| 04:10.53 | mdim | Rusty1: I did. I've had the backports all the time. I remember reading about Docker not being included in Jessie due to the way the Go lang (Docker is written in Go) is packaged at a certain version or so |
| 04:11.12 | vvarcken | are you on newer kernels for livecd and your debian ? |
| 04:11.56 | Rusty1 | mdim: i presume you are following this: https://docs.docker.com/installation/debian/ |
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| 04:13.56 | aindilis | is there a way to pass the -d option to dpkg-buildpackage through apt-get source? |
| 04:14.02 | aindilis | --build |
| 04:14.19 | aindilis | or a conf file to set it |
| 04:14.39 | grantwu | vvarcken: What do you mean by newer kernels? |
| 04:14.51 | grantwu | It's Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on the live CD |
| 04:14.58 | grantwu | Jessie on the actual install |
| 04:15.44 | mdim | Rusty1: yes, that's what I'm looking at |
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| 04:17.17 | vvarcken | ok jessie's kernel is pretty new |
| 04:17.46 | vvarcken | have you read https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Manpage/btrfs-check (and the warnings about repair commands ) ? |
| 04:18.48 | vvarcken | informal question, grantwu, can you cp out most files from the fs to backup ? |
| 04:18.52 | Rusty1 | mdim: and this , note the syntax to install -t option matters it appears: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 04:18.59 | vvarcken | less of a solution |
| 04:19.17 | grantwu | vvarcken: Yes, everything seems to be readable at the moment but I haven't rigorously tested the filesystem outside of daily usage |
| 04:19.36 | grantwu | Yes, I have, all it really tells me is that the tool isn't very good.... |
| 04:19.58 | pencilandpaper | what do you mean, when running jessie live you are actually running ubuntu 14.04 lts vvarcken , but once installed you are running jessie? |
| 04:20.05 | mdim | Rusty1: yes, I've used backports before so I'm familiar with using it |
| 04:20.48 | grantwu | pencilandpaper: I have Jessie and Windows 8 dualbooted on my laptop |
| 04:20.58 | vvarcken | pencilandpaper: grantwu has the liveCD to work on a btrfs partition offline which is used by a jessie install |
| 04:21.02 | grantwu | I wanted to use btrfsck so I booted into a live USB |
| 04:21.05 | grantwu | ^ |
| 04:21.06 | mdim | Rusty1: I just wanted to make sure I got jessie-backports right and if so, is that where I should be able to find docker.io (the Docker containers package) |
| 04:21.23 | pencilandpaper | o ok i see vvarcken and grantwu , thanks. |
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| 04:24.40 | vvarcken | Hey can anybody help me understand what a debian package Maintainer is responsible for ? I see they can submit packages, but do they deal with all debian-specific reported bugs, etc ? or just make sure official sources are easily ported to debian hierachy / package system etc? |
| 04:25.09 | Rusty1 | mdim: when you apt-get update , is backports apparent in the output, if so then beyond me, (i don't have backports here) apparent |
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| 04:25.29 | vvarcken | There's 1 or 3 orphaned packages I'm thinking about helping with but I don't know what the responsibilities are |
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| 04:25.37 | pencilandpaper | is there a channel for old-stable on here, or do we have to go to oftc for that? |
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| 04:26.10 | mdim | Rusty1: yes, I see something like: Get:10 http://http.debian.net jessie-backports/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex [2,713 B] |
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| 04:27.08 | vvarcken | will be on wheezy for some time |
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| 04:27.29 | pencilandpaper | ^ |
| 04:27.48 | pencilandpaper | brb. |
| 04:27.58 | mdim | Rusty1: here is what I get: https://paste.debian.net/181911/ |
| 04:28.35 | Rusty1 | apt-get -t jessie-backports install docker.io gets nada? |
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| 04:30.10 | mdim | Rusty1: ... as pointed out in the pasted snippet |
| 04:30.15 | vvarcken | brb |
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| 04:30.58 | roberth1990 | Rusty1: docker isnt in backports for jessie yet |
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| 04:32.08 | mdim | roberth1990: what do you recommend, how to install it in Jessie? |
| 04:32.54 | roberth1990 | mdim: I dont know, I dont use, the reason it isn't in jessie is because of bugs |
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| 05:46.06 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 06:04.02 | anddam | how do I list where the .service file for a unit is? |
| 06:04.34 | anddam | I cannot find in /etc/systemd/system or /usr/lib/systemd/lib , I cannot havea match with systemctl's list-unit-files command |
| 06:04.54 | anddam | I'm looking for mldonkey-server's unit, the program is from official repo |
| 06:07.24 | anddam | also I'm having some issues with libvirt (it's not showing disk images in pool) and I'd like to restart it, is it just libvirtd unit as I seem to find? |
| 06:07.46 | anddam | libvirt-guests is active but exited, I figure it'll be spawned on request when a client connects |
| 06:08.00 | anddam | and virtlockd.service is dead |
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| 06:09.42 | anddam | ah yes, libvirtd was it |
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| 06:15.11 | angevin | why does it seem that there is a fglrx-driver package for sid but not stretch and how does that make any sense ? |
| 06:15.31 | angevin | cause it is in jessy too |
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| 06:15.55 | angevin | like there is a fglx black list package available for stretch but not the main driver which is mentally retarded |
| 06:16.53 | angevin | all this because I'm trying to get my laptop to resume from sleep. I can get it to easily work on slackware but it is a pain in the ass in debian and debian based distros |
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| 06:17.14 | angevin | only reason I'm not using slackware right now is that there hasn't been a new release in like a thousand years |
| 06:17.33 | angevin | I swear everything is easier in slackware besides package management |
| 06:19.21 | angevin | all other distros are convoluted pieces of shit including debian |
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| 06:23.08 | valdyn | judd: versions fglrx-driver |
| 06:23.10 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 1:12-3-1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2; experimental/non-free: 1:14.12-1; sid/non-free: 1:14.12-2 |
| 06:24.08 | jelly | !next |
| 06:24.09 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 06:34.03 | darxmurf | Somebody is using SALT here ? |
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| 06:35.13 | darxmurf | one of my machines is down, is there a way to ask SALT to ignore it for a while ? |
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| 07:03.43 | cluelessperson | hey guys, is anyone here familiar with danted as a socks proxy? |
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| 07:11.52 | DrPeppy | My administrator home folder "root" is mounted on "/", so it reads "/root". Question: how can I attach to it another disk partition, to give it more disk space, at boot time (not as a permanent new partition)? |
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| 07:13.00 | DrPeppy | anyone awake? |
| 07:13.16 | nkuttler | DrPeppy: just mount another device over /root |
| 07:13.25 | nkuttler | ah wait.. |
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| 07:13.37 | fireba11 | DrPeppy: why do you want it bigger only at boot time? |
| 07:13.42 | nkuttler | DrPeppy: you could mount --bind for a tmp solution i guess. or just fix whatever gets written there |
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| 07:18.38 | DrPeppy | I want to make the contents of "/root" UNDESTROYABLE by distros installers. Thus, I want the contents to be in another partition, then the installers can mess with it any way they want; BUT then, at boot time, I attach the volume with all my settings, .rc files, and whatnot, which have survived the installers mucking around. |
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| 07:20.25 | nkuttler | DrPeppy: huh? i would never want to use a distro that depends on writing to /root.. that being said, you might want to look into stow, unison, yadda |
| 07:20.29 | nkuttler | rsync even |
| 07:20.35 | DrPeppy | more clearly, the installers can mess with "/root" in any way they want, BUT not with the data that would be in another partition. |
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| 07:21.54 | DrPeppy | nkuttler: both "/" and "root" on "/" are done by distros installers at install time . . . =( |
| 07:22.27 | thebrush | hello, in debian 8 I cannot setup default application via "open with" and "set as default" button in file property, is there any workaroud |
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| 07:22.33 | thebrush | (I think it's a bug) |
| 07:23.06 | DrPeppy | what are these "stow, unison, yadda, rsync" critters? what's their category of functionality? |
| 07:23.54 | nkuttler | DrPeppy: apt-cache show <foo>, man <foo>, etc |
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| 07:24.26 | DrPeppy | i don't have apt installed yet |
| 07:24.53 | nkuttler | DrPeppy: you probably want a more generic channel, like ##linux |
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| 07:26.41 | thebrush | my "default problem" seems only with XML files, I cannot setup gedit default is always iceweasel... :( |
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| 07:27.04 | nkuttler | thebrush: do you use gnome? is there no "open with" dialogue on right click? |
| 07:27.19 | thebrush | yes doesn't work |
| 07:27.25 | nkuttler | how so? |
| 07:27.32 | thebrush | only with xml doesn't work |
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| 07:27.41 | thebrush | with pdf its' ok |
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| 07:28.02 | nkuttler | if i had to guess i'd say you picked a program that doesn't exist to open xml files |
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| 07:28.43 | thebrush | nkuttler, if i right click and choose open with: gedit work but my need is to set up as default |
| 07:28.50 | thebrush | I always use gedit to open xml |
| 07:29.06 | thebrush | (like I set up in wheezy) |
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| 07:29.40 | nkuttler | thebrush: open with.. open with other application? |
| 07:30.20 | nkuttler | oh wait.. no, that's not gnome |
| 07:30.34 | thebrush | nkuttler, I try both, now my first open with is gedit and open correctly, but in right click property / openwith is not setted up as default |
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| 07:32.41 | thebrush | nkuttler, before: http://picpaste.com/Schermata_da_2015-05-22_09_31_11-38dYHPsg.png after click set as default: http://picpaste.com/Schermata_da_2015-05-22_09_31_18-7wpmJ1G4.png |
| 07:33.20 | thebrush | iceweasel still remain the default application.. |
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| 07:36.22 | stanford_drone | Does anyone know C/C++, Computer Vision/Image Processing, Machine Learning, AI, linux systems programming, or electronics? I'm looking for a programmer to join my Startup. We're going to China (manufacturing is there) from July to November. We're a team of 4. We're building a flying computer. A drone that you can play games with and install apps on. |
| 07:36.44 | Mmike | Hi, guys. I'm using pbuilder-dist to build packages. But, when build fails, pbuilder deletes the temprorary chroot created for package build - is there a way to preserve the env so I can investigate what went wrong? |
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| 07:42.56 | angevin | alright sorry for flaming you guys before. I fixed my problem. I got my laptop to resume after suspend by installing a new kernel from sid and then getting rid of the sid repository and holding it with dpkg |
| 07:43.05 | angevin | on stretch |
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| 07:43.33 | angevin | I thought it was the open source radeon drivers fault at first |
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| 07:44.32 | angevin | hopefull that 4.0 ext4 bug doesn't effect anything except RAID or that the version in sid isn't affected |
| 07:44.40 | angevin | s/hopefull/hopefully/ |
| 07:44.44 | angevin | since I held the package |
| 07:45.02 | angevin | I don't use RAID |
| 07:45.48 | angevin | s/effect/affect/ |
| 07:46.22 | xar- | dont worry angevin, they were making me rage earlier too |
| 07:46.24 | xar- | :) |
| 07:46.50 | angevin | I was just used to the slackware way of things but I'm getting used to debian again. |
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| 07:48.39 | angevin | now that I'm using testing I can't figure out why anyone would use mint or ubuntu other than they are stupid and lazy |
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| 07:49.13 | DrPeppy | stanford_drone: why run CounterStrike in a 'puter flying around? |
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| 07:50.26 | stanford_drone | DrPeppy, it's more fun. It's like laser tag vs paintball |
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| 07:51.36 | GPenguin | i got me the dpkg (bot) dump and when i open it with gedit it complains about invalid characters. what can that be? |
| 07:52.15 | xar- | without disabling DHE in my cipher list, how do I raise the bit size from 1024 to 2048 |
| 07:52.22 | xar- | (RE: logjam) |
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| 07:53.53 | DrPeppy | stanford_drone: use an $800 drone to do aerobatics and put it at risk of getting crashed by 6 other drones chasing it . . . sounds stupid. |
| 07:53.59 | GPenguin | oops, nevermind |
| 07:54.22 | stanford_drone | DrPeppy, you don't need to use multiple drones. |
| 07:54.35 | stanford_drone | but we make it so they don't crash. |
| 07:54.56 | angevin | what kept me away from using debian for so long in favor of slackware is I thought everything other than stable release was going to be well unstable but testing is solid enough for a desktop IMO |
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| 07:55.29 | GPenguin | testing has become stable just a few weeks ago |
| 07:55.41 | GPenguin | the current testing is everything but stable |
| 07:55.55 | DrPeppy | another stable? and what's it called? |
| 07:56.00 | GPenguin | Jessie |
| 07:56.07 | nkuttler | testing is solid enough for desktops.. until it breaks |
| 07:56.37 | angevin | nkuttler: yeah but I've used arch linux before and I've been using linux since 1997 so I know how to fix shit when it breaks |
| 07:56.40 | GPenguin | Siduction if you need a bleeding edge "debian" |
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| 07:56.48 | nkuttler | angevin: good for you |
| 07:56.54 | peterrooney | DrPeppy: there is oldstable. |
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| 07:57.40 | angevin | honestly only like servers need the stability of debian stable |
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| 07:57.48 | DrPeppy | ah ... ok. a stabler stable. i buy that. |
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| 07:59.30 | xar- | after some googling, it appears in debian 7, i can't actually solve logjam, since it's apache version is too old |
| 07:59.45 | xar- | all I can do is disable DHE which will impact a lot of clients |
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| 08:04.04 | angevin | xar-: I bet OpenBSD isn't affected because logjam came about because of US cryptography laws and canada has always had better cryptography export laws that is one of the reasons OpenBSD has such strong crypto |
| 08:04.10 | angevin | but I dunno |
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| 08:05.14 | jelly | xar-: no way to upgrade to debian 8? |
| 08:05.24 | xar- | yes, in this case, an upgrade is fine |
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| 08:06.02 | angevin | xar-: that is the obvious solution because just upgrading apache and holding packages would probably be like dependency hell since apache probably has like a zillion dependencies |
| 08:06.07 | jelly | dpkg: cve lookup CVE-2015-4000 |
| 08:06.07 | dpkg | Information about the security advisory CVE-2015-4000 may be found at https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-4000 |
| 08:06.16 | xar- | it will have to be coordinated / scheduled, but that's fine; my earlier issue, doesn't have a public facing application, i needed an older debian for other reasons |
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| 08:08.05 | tyll_ | Hi, is the linux-image-armmp kernel in jessie usable for the odroid c1? |
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| 08:08.28 | xar- | my options are 1) do nothing 2) disable DHE and buy some time 3) custom compile apache2 and hold on for a little bit longer (there's a patch floating around) |
| 08:08.42 | xar- | and of course 4) upgrade |
| 08:08.44 | xar- | :p |
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| 08:09.20 | angevin | xar-: I would do 3 if I was running slackware and 4 if I was running debian not that you can't do 3 on debian it just is probably more of a pain in the ass compared to slackware |
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| 08:11.10 | halcyforn | hello |
| 08:12.00 | halcyforn | i use open suse but this is not important, how i can change what system is first load by grub? |
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| 08:13.09 | angevin | halcyforn: #linux #opensuse |
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| 08:13.19 | axel_fly | how to force to use 5ghz wifi |
| 08:13.30 | axel_fly | got on my notebook both 2,4 and 5 GHz and same on the router |
| 08:13.43 | axel_fly | got many time connection problems |
| 08:13.53 | axel_fly | and have to restart network-manager |
| 08:14.04 | halcyforn | angevin there is use yast, yast dont work |
| 08:14.15 | rozie | axel_fly: iwconfig |
| 08:14.37 | angevin | halcyforn: #linux |
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| 08:22.57 | axel_fly | halcyforn: forgot paste servive url |
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| 08:26.38 | angevin | actually now that I think of it maybe logjam did initially openbsd's SSL before libressl but not VPN and ssh in openbsd |
| 08:26.52 | angevin | whatever though that is off topic |
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| 08:27.22 | BW^- | can someone with a newish sqlite please do: sqlite3 /tmp/x PRAGMA mmap_size; |
| 08:27.24 | BW^- | and letm e know what it said? |
| 08:27.37 | BW^- | (if it said anything at all, it means it was new enough) |
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| 08:29.46 | hanasaki | anyone get websvn on apache to work in jessie? or an alternative? pacakge is broken |
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| 08:30.36 | axel_fly_ | rozie: http://pastebin.com/G6Zad6Yt |
| 08:30.42 | axel_fly_ | happened again |
| 08:30.56 | axel_fly_ | lost every time the connection. now i am on cable |
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| 08:32.31 | swiftynb | type sudo reboot |
| 08:32.36 | swiftynb | problem solved |
| 08:32.40 | swiftynb | buy me a pizza |
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| 08:33.15 | axel_fly_ | swiftynb: stupid answer |
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| 08:34.04 | Deltatash | Hi |
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| 08:34.35 | swiftynb | axel_fly_ : and what is your better answer? |
| 08:34.52 | axel_fly_ | every 10 min reboot |
| 08:34.58 | Deltatash | I was wondering if anyone here has any experience setting up Primus for the optimus intel/nvidia gpu thing on laptops? I'm having a few issues trying to get this working :/ |
| 08:35.14 | axel_fly_ | you are a windows guy i think ... so no comment. i would try to solve this problem |
| 08:35.26 | swiftynb | lol |
| 08:35.35 | swiftynb | why would a windows guy ask a quesion here? |
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| 08:36.12 | axel_fly_ | :) |
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| 08:36.18 | Deltatash | anyone have any experience with the optimus systems and primus? as I'm having issues getting mine to work. |
| 08:36.29 | axel_fly_ | so how the hell i could set up my wifi |
| 08:37.00 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: primusrun works with nvidia drives only every second time. its something with this kernel version and the nvidia drive |
| 08:37.15 | Deltatash | huh? |
| 08:37.28 | axel_fly_ | maybe the free nvidia drive works better, havent tried it |
| 08:37.32 | Deltatash | I can't even get it installed to try though, thats my issue xD |
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| 08:38.07 | axel_fly_ | the installation is straight forward like explained on the wiki |
| 08:38.12 | swiftynb | axel_fly_: no they are actually just all in disguise, all of them are actually windows |
| 08:38.51 | Deltatash | I can only find a bumblebee wiki which installed fine but it kinda doesnt work as planned then I found a site about Primus but I can't find a wiki on how to install it on Debian, the one I found was for Ubuntu and it kinda doesnt work on Debian... |
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| 08:39.19 | brolin_empey | Dave Cutler is my hero. ;-) |
| 08:39.21 | Deltatash | Do you have a link to the Primus wiki for debian please? :) |
| 08:39.44 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
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| 08:39.54 | Deltatash | ahh thats the one I tried, I'm looking for Primus |
| 08:40.10 | axel_fly_ | THAT is primus :D |
| 08:40.21 | axel_fly_ | sudo apt-get install bumblebee primus |
| 08:40.35 | Deltatash | howcome when I install it I don't get the nvidia-settings I have to install it myself manually? |
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| 08:40.36 | axel_fly_ | and the command is primusrun |
| 08:40.42 | tumulte | hello ! |
| 08:40.44 | Deltatash | I tried primusrun but nothing happens |
| 08:40.52 | axel_fly_ | primusrun nvidia-settings |
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| 08:41.12 | Deltatash | thats the issue, nvidia-settings wasnt installed at all when I followed that guide lol. |
| 08:41.17 | axel_fly_ | try it two time, because it works only every second time |
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| 08:41.42 | Deltatash | I had to install it myself manually, then whenever I ran nvidia settings it said my nvidia card isnt detected or whatever :/ |
| 08:42.04 | Deltatash | if bumblebee is the only way I guess I'll have to try that again then...lol |
| 08:42.04 | axel_fly_ | bumblebee-nvidia package? |
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| 08:42.31 | Deltatash | I used "sudo apt-get install bumblebee-nvidia primus" to install |
| 08:42.48 | Fr3d3r1c | please, help me, i have this error when i try to install a music bot with teamspeak : musicbot is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
| 08:42.58 | Deltatash | which is supposed to install the non free drivers and primus? |
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| 08:43.16 | Deltatash | but I don't get why nvidia-settings is ignored and then doesnt work when I run it after a manual install.. |
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| 08:44.53 | dprc | Fr3d3r1c: so add them to sudoers... http://xkcd.com/838/ |
| 08:44.55 | Deltatash | Can I just clarify something if I try and install this again, if I want to run an application with the nvidia gpu what is the command? optirun (application name) ? or is it primusrun (Application name |
| 08:45.17 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: optirun -b none nvidia-settings -c :8 |
| 08:45.21 | Fr3d3r1c | i have found this :usermod -g admin nicolargo |
| 08:45.26 | dprc | why do you have a "bot" elevating its privileges anyway? |
| 08:45.39 | Fr3d3r1c | it's better to avoid another errors in the futur |
| 08:45.48 | Deltatash | thats a command I tried but nothing seemed to happen when I did try it.. I'll have to write it down and try again after another go at installing it. |
| 08:45.52 | Fr3d3r1c | too much problems without permissions |
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| 08:46.12 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: you can use both primusrun or optirun and than append application_name |
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| 08:46.26 | dprc | so grant the needed permissions instead of giving something which parses arbitrary input elevated privs |
| 08:46.33 | Deltatash | ok, thanks. what would I do to see which GPU is currently in use? |
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| 08:47.50 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: bumblebee is working ugly! i tried fedora because of bumblebee and opensuse! debian works best for me, but there might be a few problems. most of the time i use the intel gpu, because bumblebee doesnt work correctly |
| 08:48.10 | Fr3d3r1c | usermod does not work in debian ? |
| 08:48.49 | Deltatash | Hmm... I hate this new Optimus system... xD |
| 08:49.00 | Deltatash | making Linux more complicated than it has to be... lol |
| 08:49.29 | Fr3d3r1c | what is the command to change the user's group please ? |
| 08:49.35 | Deltatash | how can I tell it which GPU to use though? for example is it always using the intel one by default? until I run that optirun or primus command? |
| 08:49.53 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: normally intel. only when you are using primu/optirun command the nvidia gpu get active. sudo cat /proc/acpi/bbswitch |
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| 08:50.27 | axel_fly_ | read https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bumblebee |
| 08:50.38 | axel_fly_ | there are lot of infos |
| 08:51.01 | Deltatash | ok, thanks! cus I read somewhere online when you change the GPU you need to restart X or at least log out and back in... so why wouldnt that be the case when I run the optirun command for an app/game in steam? |
| 08:51.05 | Deltatash | ok thanks! |
| 08:51.14 | bsirius | Fr3d3r1c, usermod -a -G group user should work |
| 08:51.17 | dprc | Fr3d3r1c: usermod is correct command |
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| 08:52.05 | Deltatash | sorry for all these questions btw lol. |
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| 08:52.30 | dprc | it still a bad idea to let it run with root privileges though |
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| 08:53.35 | Deltatash | also, one last thing before I go and retry, I don't guess I need sudo when doing optirun or primusrun? |
| 08:53.58 | axel_fly_ | sudo is only for nvidia-settings |
| 08:54.13 | axel_fly_ | you have to setup the group to get permission |
| 08:54.26 | axel_fly_ | add your user to group bumblebee |
| 08:55.16 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: i drop setting bumblebee up! it got still problems and i wait for ddebian 9 stretch |
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| 08:56.36 | Deltatash | Ok thanks! I will give it one more try and add myself to that group, I kinda need it to work so I never have to load back into my god forsaken windows partition xD I want to run my steam games on Linux and stay away from Windows if I can lol |
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| 08:57.48 | Deltatash | axel_fly_: Can I just confirm one thing with you before I go and try once more to get this working? its about the setup process? |
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| 08:58.37 | dprc | ask, dont ask to ask |
| 08:58.45 | Deltatash | lol ok. |
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| 08:59.40 | Zesk | Hello, I'd like to dual boot on two linux on separate partition,I install debian on the first partition (usual way+grub) but should I install grub again when i install the second debian on another primary partition? |
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| 09:00.06 | Deltatash | So, to install Bumblebee/primus with the proprietary nvidia graphics driver I will use: sudo apt-get install bumblebee-nvidia primus once that's done I need to restart my system becuase the novaue whatever free driver or intel driver is already loaded and in use etc, then after restart bumblbee kicks in. |
| 09:00.59 | Deltatash | Now! I need to manually install nvidia-settings for some reason that wasnt included my last two attempts. Then add myself to the bumblebee group and then I can use optirun -b none nvidia-settings -c :8 to access nvidia settings with primus? |
| 09:01.16 | dprc | Zesk: the 2nd debian should call and configure grub itself as part of install |
| 09:01.19 | Deltatash | then I should be all set by using the primusrun and optirun commands for my steam games when loading them,? |
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| 09:02.14 | Deltatash | I guess that install process looks ok? |
| 09:02.22 | Deltatash | just so I can be sure I was doing it right. |
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| 09:03.56 | dprc | Deltatash: may or may not also have to run nvidia-xconfig as well |
| 09:04.12 | Zesk | dprc: so I should say no when he ask to install the bootload on the boot sector? |
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| 09:04.39 | Deltatash | Ahh ok, I read on the wiki you shouldnt allow nvidia to run the xconfig |
| 09:05.01 | Deltatash | apparently bumblebee takes care of it. I missed that part on the wiki on my first attempt and it messed everything up I couldnt boot up into a gui lol |
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| 09:06.09 | Deltatash | I ended up re-installing my system since I was making things messier trying to fix it haha |
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| 09:07.41 | Deltatash | anyway! I'm gonna leave the chat and go and try and get this thing working again! I'll probably be back soon and let you know how things go! thanks for the help so far guys! :) |
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| 09:09.20 | dprc | Zesk: tell it no for mbr but have it configure for the partition of 2nd debian |
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| 09:11.45 | Zesk | dprc: thanks! It's done hope all will be okay :) |
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| 09:17.50 | Ulrar | Hi, quick question, in /etc/network/interfaces if want to put an interface but I don't want it up at boot, I just put the iface bit and not the auto bit ? |
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| 09:18.13 | axel_fly_ | so how about dualband wifi 2.4GHz and 5GHz |
| 09:18.15 | linc_ | Ulrar: correct, afaik |
| 09:18.22 | dprc | you might have to edit the grub config on debian one after to point at debian 2 |
| 09:18.23 | axel_fly_ | got connection problems |
| 09:18.29 | dprc | Zesk: ^^^ |
| 09:18.45 | Ulrar | Thanks ! |
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| 09:21.46 | Zesk | drpc: oops, grub give me only one option, and it's for the first installation ^^". Which key word should I google to fix it? "repair grub"? |
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| 09:23.17 | angevin | the way debian is installed I have to access the standard debian boot GUI like a device on bootup by pre-empting with the escape button otherwise it drops to commandline grub |
| 09:23.25 | angevin | which I think is weird |
| 09:23.38 | angevin | but it works so I too lazy to fix it |
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| 09:23.57 | angevin | especially since I mostly suspend my laptop not reboot it |
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| 09:25.44 | Deltatash | Hi! It's me again! just installed Bumblebee again! |
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| 09:26.57 | Deltatash | axel_fly_: bumblebee installed quite easy again, like it did last time, but still some issues not sure if I'm doing something wrong or... I do this in terminal primusrun nvidia-settings |
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| 09:27.26 | Deltatash | and nvidia settings loads with the following message, any idea what i've done wrong: You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA X driver. Please edit your X configuration file (just run `nvidia-xconfig` as root), and restart the X server. |
| 09:27.54 | axel_fly_ | Deltatash: I wrote you "optirun -b none nvidia-settings -c :8" |
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| 09:28.05 | Deltatash | ahh damn yeah! sorry let me try again! |
| 09:28.06 | Deltatash | lol |
| 09:28.16 | axel_fly_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:28.22 | axel_fly_ | read the archwiki!!! |
| 09:28.24 | Deltatash | Ok, will try it now, sorry lol |
| 09:29.21 | Deltatash | ahh optirun -b none nvidia-settings -c :8 loads the nvidia settings properly! :D |
| 09:29.30 | Deltatash | thanks a lot!! this was driving me insane! lol |
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| 09:31.09 | Deltatash | I guess I could add optirun -b none nvidia-settings -c :8 to my menu entry for nvidia settings, so I don't have to type that code everytime, just click the nvidia settings icon to make it faster |
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| 09:37.45 | Deltatash | axel_fly_: Anyway I think my bumblebee is working as expected now, I'm gonna log out and go get some food whilst steam downloads some of my games and I'll be back later to test it out properly :D thanks for the help! :D |
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| 09:38.22 | axel_fly_ | steam got library problems with this version (Jessie ) on debian :d |
| 09:38.25 | axel_fly_ | :D |
| 09:38.31 | axel_fly_ | but have fun |
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| 09:39.13 | Deltatash | ahh damn... haha I'm sure this will be fun getting steam to work then xD |
| 09:39.16 | hassoon | axel_fly_: try the one made for wheezy |
| 09:39.21 | Deltatash | you might see me again later haha :P |
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| 09:40.00 | Deltatash | Thanks for the help so far anyway! I'll cya later I appreciate the info a lot! |
| 09:40.34 | axel_fly_ | linux is like an endless site |
| 09:40.47 | Deltatash | yeah xD |
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| 09:40.51 | hassoon | welcome to the eternity pal |
| 09:41.02 | Deltatash | xD |
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| 09:41.42 | dprc | Zesk: sorry, network dropped out |
| 09:41.50 | axel_fly_ | i would pay 90€ for an completly working linux! with nvidia optimus drives, correct working dual wifi, gnome 3 and pgf plot library! |
| 09:41.58 | Deltatash | actually I had one more question before I go lol. I have an Intel Core i-7, quad core with hypethreading, so it shows as 8 cores on my system |
| 09:42.23 | hassoon | deso what@ |
| 09:42.24 | axel_fly_ | 8thread and 4 cores :D |
| 09:42.32 | hassoon | Deltatash: so waht |
| 09:42.54 | Deltatash | and I have the cpu freq utility applet thing to easily change from performance or powersave mode, rather than clicking a lot and individiually sellecting performance on each core...is there a shortcut to set the same governer on all cores at once? or threads even |
| 09:42.58 | Deltatash | thats what hassoon :P lol |
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| 09:43.51 | hassoon | Deltatash: sudo pm-powersave true |
| 09:43.57 | hassoon | man pm-powersave |
| 09:44.03 | Deltatash | ahh ok |
| 09:44.05 | Deltatash | thanks :) |
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| 09:44.24 | p3rror | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:44.25 | hassoon | you want the on-batery/low-power-consumption mode right ? |
| 09:44.31 | venkat_330 | I just need some understanding on this.. I have debian 6 OS and want to run android - ADB . Does this mean that i require complete android SDK or is there some binary available.. |
| 09:44.36 | hassoon | *battery * |
| 09:44.47 | Deltatash | well its low power by default, but when i am about to load a steam game I'd like to quickly set them all to performance |
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| 09:45.03 | hassoon | Deltatash: sudo pm-powersave true/false |
| 09:45.13 | Deltatash | ok, I'll try that, thanks! :) |
| 09:45.25 | p3rror | hello |
| 09:45.34 | p3rror | please how to kill a process defunct |
| 09:45.40 | p3rror | like that [omv_dc] <defunct> |
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| 09:45.54 | hassoon | p3rror: sudo pkill process_name ? |
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| 09:46.37 | p3rror | hassoon: does not work |
| 09:46.38 | Deltatash | hmm is it normal my applet still shows my cpu in powersafe mode with both true and false options ran? |
| 09:46.58 | hassoon | p3rror: ps -aux|grep -i process_name |
| 09:47.07 | hassoon | then sudo kill -9 process_id |
| 09:47.22 | p3rror | hassoon: kill -9 does not work |
| 09:47.26 | p3rror | the process still there |
| 09:47.27 | hassoon | p3rror: sudo |
| 09:47.47 | p3rror | root 30292 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? Z May19 0:00 [omv_dc] <defunct> |
| 09:47.55 | p3rror | it is a on a Zombie state |
| 09:48.08 | hassoon | oh can' tyou kill it when it's in zombie state ? |
| 09:48.12 | hassoon | can't you * |
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| 09:50.26 | dprc | Zesk: just edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg or /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
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| 09:51.40 | dprc | then 'update-grub' |
| 09:51.47 | hassoon | sudo * |
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| 09:52.03 | hassoon | hugs sudo |
| 09:52.07 | Zesk | dprc: just mak some research can I really edit grub.cfg by myself? I will look in 40_custom |
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| 09:54.02 | eptalon | hello all. |
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| 09:54.27 | eptalon | I am using testing/sid and I am wondering how to get a working GLX config for X? |
| 09:54.59 | eptalon | (using intel gfx) |
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| 09:57.57 | hassoon | Deltatash: what's your applet |
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| 09:58.48 | Deltatash | hassoon: I use the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor in Mate |
| 10:00.16 | Deltatash | I had just used this: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling#CPU_frequency_scaling to set the defaault to powersave as that will be my preferred mode, I then want to be able to change all 8 threads to performance when I load steam but I don't want ot have to click on each thread in the applet manually and change tehm 1 at at time lol. Ideally I would set the system to ondemand as the default but apparently that isn't ava |
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| 10:00.44 | Zesk | dprc: fdisk -l tell me that Partition 3 (where my 2nd linux is) doesnt not start on physical sector boundary, maybe I should take care of it before, editing grub? |
| 10:01.09 | hassoon | Deltatash: meh i don't know about that program, i just us ethe command-line too |
| 10:01.13 | hassoon | *ues the * |
| 10:01.15 | Deltatash | ahh ok |
| 10:01.28 | hassoon | depending whether i ru nthe machine on battery or AC mode |
| 10:01.35 | hassoon | *run * |
| 10:01.37 | Deltatash | yeah |
| 10:02.10 | Deltatash | well, it does work at the moment, just trying to find an easier way to quickly change its state lol, so it's not really a priority or a problem just trying to make something a little faster :P |
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| 10:04.10 | hassoon | Deltatash: create a keystroke to a command like espeak 'low power mode';sudo pm-powersave true; :) |
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| 10:04.34 | hassoon | then another a keystroke to a command like espeak 'ondemand mode';sudo pm-powersave fales; :) |
| 10:05.18 | hassoon | use the xbindkeys program |
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| 10:05.34 | jelly | Deltatash: echo performance | tee -a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
| 10:05.41 | Deltatash | Ok! I'll take a look at it thanks! :) although trying the pm-powersave true/false thing didnt seem to affect which cpu governer was in use when I tried it a moment ago :s |
| 10:06.54 | Deltatash | jelly: tried that with and without sudo I get permission denied either way lol xD |
| 10:07.11 | Deltatash | otherwise it looks like it should do what I want, need to find out why I don't have permission though, even with sudo...lol |
| 10:07.31 | jelly | Deltatash: run it as root. If you use sudo, apply sudo to "tee" not "echo" |
| 10:07.36 | hassoon | Deltatash: why do you think the pm-powersave method didn't work |
| 10:07.48 | jelly | Deltatash: echo performance | sudo tee -a /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor |
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| 10:08.39 | Deltatash | hassoon: it didn't seem to be changing my cpu from powersave to performance and vice versa :s dunno why... |
| 10:08.44 | Deltatash | jelly: that worked, thanks! :D |
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| 10:18.44 | Deltatash | anyway! I must go and get some food now. Thank you for all the help guys! :) |
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| 10:58.27 | k_sze | Hello. |
| 10:58.33 | k_sze | I have this motherboard from Supermicro: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/C600/X10DRG-Q.cfm |
| 10:58.42 | k_sze | it comes with an Intel i350 ethernet controller |
| 10:58.50 | k_sze | but the Jessie installer couldn't detect it. |
| 10:59.23 | centrx | Couldn't detect the motherboard or couldn't detect the Ethernet controller? |
| 10:59.51 | k_sze | it says "No Ethernet card was detected. If you know the name of the driver ... blablabla" |
| 11:00.03 | k_sze | and it gives me a huge list of drivers to select from |
| 11:00.21 | k_sze | igb is the way to go? |
| 11:00.46 | centrx | Yes, that's how it looks from the Internet |
| 11:00.51 | centrx | maybe igbvf if igb doesn't work |
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| 11:01.29 | k_sze | neither works |
| 11:01.33 | ChrisH | k_sze: check installer images with firmware and/or verify using a live CD which modules is needed |
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| 11:02.26 | k_sze | ChrisH: you mean a full CD? |
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| 11:02.50 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell k_sze about irmware images |
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| 11:04.49 | k_sze | ChrisH: like this one? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:05.11 | ChrisH | k_sze: that filename looks OK |
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| 11:05.34 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell k_sze about firmware images |
| 11:06.07 | ChrisH | k_sze: sorry... some characters missing before |
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| 11:11.21 | marco__ | hello all |
| 11:11.40 | marco__ | is there a way to use on KDE the windows key as both modifier and normal key? |
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| 11:12.01 | centrx | marco__, I would ask in #kde they'll know better |
| 11:12.07 | marco__ | okay |
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| 11:14.44 | logan0407 | hey is it possible to do an isolated install of a program which depends on newer libraries etc, but keep old versions of the same libraries in tact for other programs on the system? |
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| 11:15.40 | centrx | logan0407, Yes, in certain circumstances, e.g. python2 vs python3 |
| 11:15.52 | centrx | logan0407, Also, you can use backports, or do a source-backport yourself |
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| 11:16.34 | logan0407 | I'm on wheezy and need to stay on that, but want to install mpv from jessie |
| 11:16.56 | logan0407 | which needs newer versions of libc6 etc, any way to do that? |
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| 11:17.26 | ChrisH | ,v mpv |
| 11:17.27 | judd | Package: mpv on amd64 -- jessie: 0.6.2-2; sid: 0.9.1-1; stretch: 0.9.1-1; experimental: 0.9.1-1+ffmpeg; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.8.3-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.9.2-dmo1 |
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| 11:17.53 | ChrisH | seems not to be in wheezy at all |
| 11:17.55 | k_sze | ok, switched to firmware ISO |
| 11:17.57 | k_sze | still no go |
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| 11:18.10 | k_sze | tried both igb and igbvf |
| 11:18.28 | k_sze | according to Intel, igb *should* be correct. https://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/13663/Network-Adapter-Driver-for-82575-6-82580-I350-and-I210-211-Based-Gigabit-Network-Connections-for-Linux- |
| 11:18.29 | k_sze | :/ |
| 11:18.52 | logan0407 | I know but if i change my sources.list from wheezy -> jessie and do apt-get update it will let me install it but will install all of its dependencies, my intention is to do that in an isolated environment, then put wheezy back in my sources.list |
| 11:19.36 | ChrisH | k_sze: push a shell and run lspci and check with the piciids and google for the correct module |
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| 11:19.52 | k_sze | push a shell? |
| 11:20.17 | k_sze | you mean "Execute a shell" in the installer's menu |
| 11:20.41 | ChrisH | ALT-F2 press enter |
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| 11:21.02 | ChrisH | assuing you use the curses installer and not the GUI stuff |
| 11:21.08 | centrx | dpkg, tell logan0407 about ssb |
| 11:21.17 | k_sze | arg |
| 11:21.21 | k_sze | there is no `less` |
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| 11:22.04 | centrx | logan0407, See message from the bot dpkg. You may want to backport from jessie, not from sid, because the software will be older/closer to the wheezy library versions |
| 11:22.06 | k_sze | lspci gives me a huge scrollback |
| 11:22.07 | jelly | k_sze: which pci id do those eth. cards have? lspci -nn |
| 11:22.14 | k_sze | ah, ther's more |
| 11:22.34 | jelly | grep -i eth, maybe |
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| 11:23.52 | k_sze | nothing |
| 11:23.53 | k_sze | weird |
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| 11:24.19 | k_sze | it's supposed to have I350 controller *and* Realtek RTL8211E |
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| 11:24.22 | k_sze | neither appear |
| 11:26.15 | logan0407 | thank you centrx |
| 11:27.11 | centrx | Yours sincerely, |
| 11:27.17 | logan0407 | I'm trying to make an older version of mplayer work with mps-youtube but it keeps crashing at 2 minutes. mpv works & so does newer versions of mplayer if i upgrade the system to jessie but otherwise so glitchy |
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| 11:28.47 | logan0407 | I'll try the backporting it. Anyone know a good way to make a command run at user log in? I type startx and x starts very quickly but if I put startx in .bash_profile or .profile x starts very slow/ not at all when I log in |
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| 11:42.40 | bsirius | logan0407, http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=29333 |
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| 12:09.51 | giusef2 | Hello. Why does some packages install users with /nonexistent home directory? |
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| 12:10.12 | Ynnaf | hey |
| 12:10.23 | Ynnaf | few problem with jessie on xfce4 |
| 12:10.40 | Ynnaf | when disabling sound ir works at alsa level |
| 12:10.56 | giusef2 | Pack always fail the check even with a fresh installation |
| 12:11.01 | giusef2 | Pwck |
| 12:11.05 | Ynnaf | when enabling it anew, alsa does re-enable the sound, but not the pulseaudio thing :s |
| 12:11.25 | Ynnaf | quite annoying |
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| 12:12.22 | Ynnaf | what package does control the behaviour of pushing the "mute"/"+volume"+/"-volume", I'd like to correct this. |
| 12:12.57 | k_sze[work] | Anybody here worked with IPMI? |
| 12:13.18 | k_sze[work] | How much control can you have over a machine over IPMI? |
| 12:13.43 | Krakakanok | Ynnaf i use alsamixer and xbindkeys |
| 12:13.55 | petn-randall | k_sze[work]: Depends on the implementation. From a bit to complete machine control. |
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| 12:14.41 | k_sze[work] | petn-randall: complete control as in you can even remotely (re-)install the OS if you wanted to? |
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| 12:15.02 | petn-randall | k_sze[work]: Some implenetations allow that, yes. |
| 12:15.06 | k_sze[work] | wow |
| 12:15.21 | petn-randall | k_sze[work]: May I know why you ask? |
| 12:15.59 | k_sze[work] | because I was trying to install Debian on this SuperMicro server. But somehow none of the network controllers could be detected. |
| 12:16.22 | k_sze[work] | IPMI seems to work, however, because when I booted, I see the IPMI getting a correct IP by DHCP. |
| 12:16.42 | k_sze[work] | So my boss will try to IPMI into it and see what he can do. |
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| 12:16.56 | k_sze[work] | That's why I was curious. |
| 12:17.23 | petn-randall | k_sze[work]: The reason Debian might not install is because its missing firmware? Did you check the output of 'dmesg | less'? |
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| 12:17.49 | petn-randall | k_sze[work]: with 'might not install' I mean 'might not detect the NICs' |
| 12:18.06 | jelly | k_sze[work]: with a recent implementation you ought to have a way to boot the machine from a remote .iso image, access the console, power down and back up... |
| 12:18.52 | petn-randall | k_sze[work]: Depending on the server, the IPMI NICs might be dedicated chips, and separate ports. |
| 12:19.23 | k_sze[work] | petn-randall: let me try dmesg | more |
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| 12:20.45 | k_sze_ | petn-randall: what should I look for in dmesg? |
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| 12:24.50 | jelly | petn-randall: they mentioned before there wasn't even anything in "lspci | grep -i eth" which is admittedly weird |
| 12:25.08 | jelly | for a server board |
| 12:25.40 | jelly | k_sze_: screenshots of lspci output would be nice, as well |
| 12:26.48 | intelikey | my sources.list has "deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free" and apt-cache search lshw comes up empty. is that package no longer avalable ? |
| 12:27.31 | intelikey | !dpkg lshw |
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| 12:29.25 | intelikey | am i not sending to the channel ? |
| 12:29.34 | stanley | you are, but nobody is able to help right now? |
| 12:29.40 | stanley | sometimes people can't answer instantl |
| 12:29.40 | stanley | y |
| 12:29.55 | jelly | ,v lshw |
| 12:29.56 | judd | Package: lshw on amd64 -- squeeze: 02.14-1; wheezy: 02.16-1; sid: 02.17-1.1; stretch: 02.17-1.1; jessie: 02.17-1.1 |
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| 12:30.13 | intelikey | stanley thank you. and jelly. |
| 12:30.14 | jelly | !jessies sources.list |
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| 12:30.19 | jelly | !jessie sources.list |
| 12:30.20 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 12:30.54 | jelly | intelikey: ^^ use that instead of ftp.debian.org, httpredir.debian.org is supposed to redirect you to nearby and up-to-date mirror. |
| 12:31.29 | Fr3d3r1c | hello |
| 12:31.32 | svetlana | an evil site provided me with a foo.deb (multiarch), but when I run «dpkg -i foo.deb» it complains that i896 is no good for my architecture (amd64). how may I get it to install the correct one? or is the .deb packaged wrongly? |
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| 12:31.52 | Fr3d3r1c | i have intalled this product : https://frie.se/ts3bot/ |
| 12:33.04 | jelly | svetlana: why are you installing packages from an evil site |
| 12:33.04 | Fr3d3r1c | it has installed a website using angular |
| 12:33.04 | jelly | svetlana: pastebin the actual command and its complete output |
| 12:33.04 | Fr3d3r1c | because, there is ng-... |
| 12:33.04 | intelikey | so that doesn't explain why my apt-cache doesn't see lshw ;/ |
| 12:33.04 | Fr3d3r1c | but i don't know where is the website in my dedicated server |
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| 12:33.23 | jelly | intelikey: it explains you, as an end user, are using a suboptimal mirror. |
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| 12:38.02 | intelikey | my sources.list has "deb http://ftp.<mirror_here>.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free" ... <<<< i'm not using a "suboptimal mirror." i understand that we don't all need to connect dirrectly to the main server. sorry that my first post triggered a reflex "sic-'em" |
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| 12:38.50 | intelikey | i'm still wondering why i'm not seeing that package |
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| 12:41.01 | k_sze_ | Do the DVD images come in non-free/firmware flavour as well? |
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| 12:41.16 | jelly | intelikey: pastebin output of "apt-get update; apt-cache policy lshw; apt-cache policy" |
| 12:41.28 | jelly | !paste |
| 12:41.29 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 12:42.57 | jelly | intelikey: if you're using a non-English locale, please prepend LC_ALL=C to each command so the messages appear in English |
| 12:43.52 | jelly | k_sze_: did we point you to the firmware images link yet? Look inside that directory, see if there are DVDs /msg dpkg firmware images |
| 12:43.56 | ali_ | i will upgared debian 8 to sid but: http://pastebin.com/AduJShaH |
| 12:44.36 | svetlana | jelly: it is not in the repos so I have to install it by hand from the website: http://paste.debian.net/plain/182040 |
| 12:44.38 | k_sze_ | jelly: yeah, I checked that. |
| 12:44.51 | jelly | ali_: that's pretty much expected. sid is not an upgrade, sid is "I realize there will be bugs and I want to help Debian fix them" |
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| 12:44.59 | k_sze_ | ah well, looks like there are only netinst firmware images. |
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| 12:45.38 | jelly | !tell svetlana about multiarch |
| 12:46.00 | jelly | svetlana: after you enable i386 arch as dpkg explained, run "apt-get -f install" |
| 12:46.42 | jelly | !tell ali_ about sid faq |
| 12:46.46 | jelly | !tell ali_ about debian-next |
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| 12:52.09 | ali_ | jelly, i have multiarch |
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| 12:52.09 | jelly | ali_: multiarch was for svetlana, not you |
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| 12:52.17 | ali_ | jelly, What I do |
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| 12:53.18 | jelly | ali_: did you read the links that dpkg bot told you about in private message? |
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| 12:54.51 | intelikey | jelly http://paste.debian.net/182047 |
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| 12:56.32 | svetlana | jelly: thanks, that makes the process more clear. 1) what is the role of «apt-get update» in this case, after I add a second architecture? it will still have the normal amd64 as the better architecture when installing new packages from repos, right? 2) why apt-get -f install, if it's a .deb, which I think should be installed via dpkg and not via apt-get? |
| 12:56.42 | intelikey | jelly wait. now the "update" has a lot of "hit/git" lines and i didn't change anything. could be the server maybe |
| 12:57.19 | jelly | intelikey: there's something wrong with your sources.list. |
| 12:57.30 | intelikey | but still no lshw |
| 12:57.43 | intelikey | yeah probably |
| 12:57.54 | jelly | "apt-cache policy" output should list more repos, not just squeeze-multimedia |
| 12:58.23 | jelly | intelikey: so move it away and put the basic jessie sources list in its place, like dpkg suggested abouve |
| 12:59.07 | intelikey | did and now it doesn't update at all |
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| 13:00.29 | jelly | svetlana: 1) update reads in available packages from the repos. Your system has not ever read the list of available i386 packages until this point. 2) that command just tries to make the apt state consistent. Done after a failed dpkg -i, it tries to satisfy missing dependencies. (You would have seen this if you'd tried it) |
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| 13:00.49 | jelly | intelikey: show your /etc/apt/sources.list please |
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| 13:02.18 | intelikey | deb http://ftp.<mirror_here>.debian.org/debian jessie main contrib non-free ; deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free ; deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free < that's all that is in my /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:06.47 | intelikey | and yes <mirror_here> indicates that i deited the line before i posted it. |
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| 13:06.47 | intelikey | edit even |
| 13:06.47 | jelly | intelikey: why did you edit it? |
| 13:06.47 | intelikey | classified |
| 13:06.47 | jelly | sorry, I don't think I can help you |
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| 13:06.47 | intelikey | ok. |
| 13:06.47 | jelly | good luck. |
| 13:06.47 | intelikey | thanks anyway |
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| 13:08.54 | svetlana | jelly: but it would still prioritise amd64 over i836, right? |
| 13:09.10 | svetlana | jelly: when installing a new package from the repos, that is |
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| 13:10.19 | wopi | Hi, I got access to a fresh debian 8 VM image trough SSH (with root access), there is an old 3.2 kernel, I want to upgrade it to 3.16 from apt. I noticed there is no grub or lilo installed. How the system boots up then ? |
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| 13:10.54 | jelly | svetlana: there is no proritizing, you have to explicitely pull in any foreign arch install. |
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| 13:14.38 | themill | wopi: what is "uname -r" there at the moment? |
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| 13:17.13 | wopi | themill: strange, I tried reboot several times and it showed the old one, now it shows the proper one... thanks |
| 13:17.48 | themill | depending on the sort of virtualisation you have, you may not be in control of the kernel you run |
| 13:18.09 | svetlana | jelly: it pulls a bunch of i386 dependencies but I think I'll follow-up with their support about it |
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| 13:32.17 | jelly | svetlana: whose support? |
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| 13:33.10 | jelly | svetlana: skype? It ought to work now after its deps have been satisfied. This is normal procedure when installing stuff with dpkg -i. |
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| 13:37.37 | ChrisH | wopi: without grub or lilo it should not have bootet at all.... at least from my understanding. |
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| 13:41.35 | jelly | ChrisH: open-source virtualization solutions have their own magics, eg. PyGrub for Xen lives outside of the guests, then reads inside innards of guest VM, finds your kernel and grub.cfg and boots those |
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| 13:43.57 | jelly | emulating BIOS firmware and its horribly convoluted boot process is not really worth it in many cases |
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| 13:47.26 | hunter- | What is the newest kernel you can build for Jessie? Is it 4.0.1? |
| 13:47.45 | hunter- | sorry 4.0.4** |
| 13:47.59 | ChrisH | jelly: thanks.. so far I was only in touch with ESX and virtualbox |
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| 13:49.17 | GNU\colossus | hunter-, you can even build linux-next for Jessie. |
| 13:49.27 | GNU\colossus | there's nothing that prevents you from doing so. |
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| 13:50.06 | GNU\colossus | the upstream kernel source itself comes with a Makefile target to generate .deb packages that will just install/work on Debian systems. |
| 13:50.07 | hunter- | GNU\colossus: thanks, I guess I meant which of the 4.0+ kernels was more stable |
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| 13:50.54 | GNU\colossus | everything before 4.0.4 contains a potentially data-destroying bug in ext4 |
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| 13:51.51 | jelly | GNU\colossus: in ext4 + raid0 + discard, you mean. |
| 13:52.07 | GNU\colossus | yeah, exactly. |
| 13:52.09 | GNU\colossus | ;) |
| 13:52.14 | jelly | if you don't use raid0, or don't use discard, you don't have to care at all |
| 13:52.18 | JyZyXEL | jelly: didn't it also require a chunk size that is not the power of 2? |
| 13:52.28 | GNU\colossus | no, that was another bug in md, I believe |
| 13:52.41 | JyZyXEL | oh, different bugs |
| 13:52.42 | GNU\colossus | (overread something along those lines on linux-raid a few weeks(?) ago) |
| 13:52.45 | jelly | JyZyXEL: point was it was an obscure edge case, like most bugs are |
| 13:53.09 | GNU\colossus | oh $deity, why is MTP such shit? |
| 13:53.33 | JyZyXEL | now using a weird chunk size like that would definitely be a obscure case |
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| 13:53.43 | jelly | GNU\colossus: good question. If you find a stable something-mtpfs or any mtp client, please write back |
| 13:54.48 | GNU\colossus | jelly, the one that works the most (relatively!) reliable for me seems to be gmtp. it's the one that makes it the most obvious when (not if) something has failed. |
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| 14:07.54 | bh67 | Is there a way to do command line dns checks without installing BIND? (dnsutils depends on it) |
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| 14:09.48 | jelly | bh67: getent hosts blah # does the glibc resolver |
| 14:10.13 | logan0405 | hey, so someone suggested to me a thread on how to auto start x & auto login, but I am looking for a way to start x once the user has logged in from tty |
| 14:10.22 | jelly | bh67: and no, dnsutils doesn't depend on bind. They only depend on some of the libraries. |
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| 14:12.21 | teraflop | logan0405: it's easy, if you run jessie + systemd |
| 14:12.35 | logan0405 | wheezy unfortunately |
| 14:13.27 | markand | guys, what is the difference between : |
| 14:13.29 | markand | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:13.29 | markand | and |
| 14:13.33 | markand | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:13.36 | markand | ? |
| 14:14.47 | teraflop | logan0405: if you only want startx *once* youre loged in, try `[[ -z $DISPLAY && $XDG_VTNR -eq 1 ]] && exec startx` into zprofile or bashprofile |
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| 14:15.38 | logan0405 | I'll try it I don't think that worked last time. lemme try again |
| 14:15.59 | jelly | markand: please read: "/msg dpkg jessie/updates", and "/msg dpkg jessie-updates" |
| 14:16.32 | markand | jelly, okay thanks |
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| 14:20.00 | teraflop | logan0405: perhaps youll need a .xinitrc file (I have one) |
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| 14:20.35 | logan0405 | alright lemme try restarting and testing this for now |
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| 14:28.16 | baegle-work | I'm setting up a utility for all users on the system to use. I am putting the utility in /usr/local/bin/ for that purpose. The utility maintains a cache on the file system. First question: should this cache be in /var/local/cache/util-name ? |
| 14:29.05 | baegle-work | Second question: for directories in /var/cache or /var/local/cache that are intended to be used by unprivileged users, should the directory have a 777 mode? /cringe |
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| 14:30.43 | somiaj | baegle-work: you could just set it as say 775 and either put users in a group so only the ones you check have write access. You could also use a sticky bit, or you could just use 755 and have the process run setuid, so the process runs as a user and can write to the cache files, but the users themselves can't |
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| 14:32.37 | baegle-work | somiaj: I worry about using setuid in this context because I don't want the utility running with elevated privileges |
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| 14:33.00 | somiaj | baegle-work: so setuid to an unprivalaged user that only has the privlage to write to the cache directory |
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| 14:33.13 | baegle-work | somiaj: that works. |
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| 14:35.44 | jsonlee | Is there any linux applet similar to http://24timezones.com that can display the world map with clock? |
| 14:37.20 | somiaj | jsonlee: something like sunclock (didn't actually click on your link) |
| 14:38.31 | darxmurf | time for a beer folks ! |
| 14:38.35 | darxmurf | have a good week-end ! |
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| 14:52.27 | eptalon | hello all |
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| 14:52.36 | bazhang | hi |
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| 14:52.59 | eptalon | it looks like the default config of X11 does not support GLX, for intel chipset gfx? |
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| 14:53.29 | eptalon | for a setup of testing/sid |
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| 14:54.12 | zykotick9 | eptalon: for probably 95+% of intel graphics, it should work out of the box. there are a couple of exceptions (intel branded, but not intel made graphics) |
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| 14:54.56 | eptalon | zykotick9: I dont say I dont have any gfx, I just say glx does not seem to work. |
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| 14:55.17 | eptalon | at least thats what android studio tells me |
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| 14:55.32 | zykotick9 | eptalon: i'm saying 3D/GLX on intel should work out of the box |
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| 14:56.23 | eptalon | zykotick9: "XLib: exension 'GLX' missing on display ':0.0'" |
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| 14:56.30 | debianuser234s | so my video card works but now i am getting a steam runtime is enabled automatically error. can someone plz point me in the right direction? |
| 14:56.37 | eptalon | for glxinfo |
| 14:57.06 | jelly | eptalon: pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 14:57.13 | zykotick9 | eptalon: why not share with the channel what intel graphics you have... |
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| 14:58.11 | jelly | eptalon: also, testing/sid may be broken at any moment. |
| 14:58.15 | jelly | !sid faq |
| 14:58.15 | dpkg | http://deb.li/sidfaq ; it doesn't hurt to read the FAQ, even if you are using <testing>. See also http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/08/msg00041.html and <sid upgrade test>. |
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| 14:58.17 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 14:58.23 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 14:58.24 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 14:59.24 | tharkun | If I aply a patch to a file and I want to revert it how can I do that? |
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| 15:00.57 | nbl | Hello world! :) |
| 15:01.09 | jelly | tharkun: same way, just add -R to patch options |
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| 15:01.30 | nbl | I've a question how to use a bitmap .pcf font no with terminal like xterm but with some other applications ? |
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| 15:02.52 | eptalon | jelly: http://pastebin.com/vpHBK6j1 |
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| 15:04.29 | zykotick9 | eptalon: <sidenote> in future you may want to consider a different paste site then pastebin.com paste.debian.net being one option. see "/msg dpkg pastebin.com" for more detail/reasons. |
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| 15:07.16 | jelly | eptalon: install libgl1-mesa-dri package, restart X |
| 15:07.51 | jelly | hm, actually /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so is present. |
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| 15:08.06 | jelly | eptalon: this is just normal sid ABI breakage |
| 15:08.09 | tharkun | hugs jelly |
| 15:08.28 | eptalon | jelly: any idea as to when it will be fixed? |
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| 15:09.21 | debianuser234s | anyone ever fix "steam runtime enabled automatically"? i cant launch any of my games :( |
| 15:10.09 | somiaj | debianuser234s: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:10.21 | debianuser234s | 8 |
| 15:10.24 | jelly | eptalon: hey... you're the one using sid, you tell me |
| 15:10.28 | debianuser234s | jessie |
| 15:10.58 | eptalon | jelly: they always told me the rocks they threw down from the mountain were soft and fluffy. |
| 15:12.06 | somiaj | debianuser234s: yea I haven't had heard of that issue, are you using the steam package as provided by debian? |
| 15:12.16 | debianuser234s | yep i went here |
| 15:12.24 | debianuser234s | https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
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| 15:12.38 | debianuser234s | it was working fine a min ago |
| 15:12.45 | debianuser234s | well last night |
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| 15:13.37 | somiaj | debianuser234s: I would look down into troubleshooting, they tell you how to remove the automatically installed runtime libaries from steam |
| 15:13.51 | somiaj | debianuser234s: I haven't messed with it much, but it seems to mention the issue you are having |
| 15:14.04 | jelly | eptalon: when I used to run testing/sid/experimental, there was usually a usable mix of Xorg/video-intel/mesa-dri to be found. Since you only seem to have opengl broken, you're probably lucky |
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| 15:14.24 | debianuser234s | i did that and those directories are mising |
| 15:14.26 | debianuser234s | missing |
| 15:14.27 | jelly | er, make that kernel/xorg/video-intel/mesa-dri |
| 15:14.54 | eptalon | jelly: so in your opinion, in 2-3 days it will either be fixed, or be totally unusable. :) |
| 15:15.00 | debianuser234s | says no such directory when i try to rm |
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| 15:15.11 | somiaj | debianuser234s: what directory, I would start looking maybe the ubunut12_32 is renamed, and they are now located in a directory with a different name. I'm unsure as I haven't used steam since I tried it out years ago. |
| 15:15.27 | somiaj | debianuser234s: i.e. does .local/share/steam exist? What directories are inside of it |
| 15:15.31 | debianuser234s | iill try |
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| 15:16.07 | somiaj | debianuser234s: though I guess your exact error is not mentioned int he list there |
| 15:16.18 | jelly | eptalon: might be weeks. Might be you'll want to downgrade or grab some stuff from experimental or snapshot.debian.org and hold it until things stabilize. Read the sid faq, join #debian-next over on OFTC, and try to keep up with migrations of software that's interesting to you |
| 15:16.43 | debianuser234s | heres my error Running Steam on debian 8 64-bit STEAM_RUNTIME is enabled automatically |
| 15:16.47 | eptalon | thanks for the tips |
| 15:16.51 | jelly | eptalon: my rule of thumb is: stay away from testing and sid at least 2-3 months after a release |
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| 15:17.42 | somiaj | debianuser234s: that looks more like a warning or message, seems that is an envvariable you can set to 0 or 1, not sure what is best. |
| 15:17.52 | debianuser234s | somiaj: that directory you asked for .local/share/steam doesnt exist |
| 15:18.21 | somiaj | debianuser234s: hmm, anyways, does it say anything else after that message you get (that message doesn't look like an error) |
| 15:18.26 | debianuser234s | steam launches but when i go to my library the game autocrashes so i launch the game from console and it gives me that error |
| 15:18.42 | debianuser234s | no i get nothing else |
| 15:18.49 | somiaj | again that is not an error, wait until your game crashes. It doesn't print out anything else? |
| 15:19.06 | debianuser234s | maybe ill reinstall fglrx-driver |
| 15:19.18 | debianuser234s | not sure if it has anything to do w it |
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| 15:20.16 | somiaj | debianuser234s: I mean you could do STEAM_RUNTIME=0 steam (and you will see you don't get that message since you explicity disabled the runtime, but I doubt this is your issue, since you are getting game crashes it might be an issue as mentioned in the wiki, but it is strange you don't have .local/share/steam in your $HOME dir |
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| 15:21.42 | debianuser234s | i tried running that command also it tells me its disabled but when i run steam again it auto enables |
| 15:22.17 | debianuser234s | i also went inside the steam.sh and changed the line for runtime 1 and when i launch steam it just rewrites the files |
| 15:22.26 | somiaj | debianuser234s: well it only disables it for that paticular instance, but again I don't think this is your issue |
| 15:22.53 | somiaj | debianuser234s: in my $HOME I have a .steam/ which is where the files it says are located, maybe the wiki is just a bit outdated |
| 15:23.01 | debianuser234s | could be a corrupt library :s |
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| 15:24.24 | debianuser234s | brb |
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| 15:35.59 | jsonlee | somiaj: Thanks! That seems to be what I am looking for; am checking how to display time, etc. |
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| 15:47.42 | kWO901 | is it ok to set a one letter password for my debian user? (for convenience) |
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| 15:48.11 | vamps | kWO901: you can simply configure an auto-login |
| 15:48.34 | kWO901 | vamps: yes but then when i use the terminal i am still gonna be asked to enter the pass |
| 15:48.34 | p0wersploit | horrible idea |
| 15:48.46 | p0wersploit | Why on earth would you do that |
| 15:48.48 | vamps | kWO901: only if you want to be root |
| 15:48.57 | p0wersploit | Convenience is a terrible excuse for that |
| 15:49.12 | vamps | kWO901: you can configure sudo to allow command without password |
| 15:49.28 | kWO901 | vamps: that sounds great |
| 15:49.32 | p0wersploit | Also a terrible idea |
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| 15:50.57 | kWO901 | p0wersploit: then what would be a good way to avoid entering a complicated pass every time i need to use sudo ? |
| 15:51.15 | p0wersploit | Is it really that hard to type in a good password you remember |
| 15:51.32 | p0wersploit | I use a quote I know very well with some numbers and special characters |
| 15:51.44 | p0wersploit | I have it so well memorized I don't have to think about it |
| 15:51.49 | p0wersploit | It's very easy |
| 15:52.13 | p0wersploit | If you really want someone to only need to crack one letter then have root access with no sudo password go ahead |
| 15:52.17 | p0wersploit | you will be sorry |
| 15:52.21 | kWO901 | what could happen if you'd use a very simple pass? |
| 15:52.32 | p0wersploit | It will get cracked |
| 15:52.43 | kWO901 | by whom? |
| 15:52.45 | p0wersploit | dictionary attacks are easy |
| 15:53.05 | p0wersploit | anyone who knows how to download lists of popular passwords and use a cracking tool |
| 15:53.16 | p0wersploit | which is unskilled script kiddies and skilled hackers |
| 15:53.33 | kWO901 | i see |
| 15:54.49 | p0wersploit | You aren't on a VPN right now :P |
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| 15:54.59 | p0wersploit | Everyone in IRC can see your IP |
| 15:55.20 | p0wersploit | now it just takes one stupid immature kid who has a cracking tool |
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| 15:55.28 | p0wersploit | to find a running service and get in your system |
| 15:55.35 | p0wersploit | with a one letter password |
| 15:55.55 | p0wersploit | dont assume it wont happen to you |
| 15:56.07 | p0wersploit | pick a good password that you can remember |
| 15:56.13 | kWO901 | yeah i was assuming nobody would even try |
| 15:56.21 | kWO901 | assuming hackers already have gazilions of machines |
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| 15:56.31 | p0wersploit | very bad to assume :P trust me I'm studying to be a pentester |
| 15:56.48 | kWO901 | p0wersploit: okay man i'll set up a strong pass |
| 15:57.15 | p0wersploit | there's always going to be some bored kid who sees your real IP and tries to get in |
| 15:57.18 | muelli | can I make initramfs claim a link local address so that I can access the initramfs' dropbear SSHd when it boots? I want to have the disk's encryption password provided by another host via SSH during boot, but I can't predict the host's IP address. So I was hoping for mDNS to help me here. |
| 15:57.33 | p0wersploit | real hackers who have skill don't care about you |
| 15:57.40 | p0wersploit | skript kiddies will |
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| 15:57.56 | p0wersploit | because they can't do real hacking :P |
| 15:58.01 | petn-randall | !ot |
| 15:58.02 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 15:58.15 | kWO901 | p0wersploit: its almost a year now since im on debian and have a weak pass. how could i make sure my system is clean ? |
| 15:58.23 | p0wersploit | Check your logs |
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| 15:58.56 | p0wersploit | Run rootkit hunting programs if there's reason you may have executed something sketchy |
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| 15:59.41 | p0wersploit | I don't use antivirus but if you are worried about it, there's that |
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| 16:00.24 | kWO901 | I'll soon install debian 8, also ill grab the 64 bit one. |
| 16:00.28 | p0wersploit | Mostly just keep eyes on your logs and take measures to be protected, minimize SUID permissions, strong sudo/root password, etc |
| 16:00.56 | p0wersploit | don't run network services unless you are using them right that second |
| 16:01.01 | p0wersploit | don't run them on boot |
| 16:01.07 | p0wersploit | end them when you're done |
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| 16:01.19 | petn-randall | p0wersploit, kWO901, then offtopic remark was directed to you. Please take it to #debian-offtopic. |
| 16:01.32 | p0wersploit | how is debian security offtopic |
| 16:02.09 | petn-randall | ... and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. |
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| 16:04.16 | GPenguin | awww, none of the helpers in #debian-bots |
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| 16:05.30 | GPenguin | how can i get rid of this load of "seen" and "stats" related datasets of the dpkg bot dump? |
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| 16:05.40 | petn-randall | muelli: The whole out-of-the-box setup is pretty basic. If you want something like that, you probably have to build it yourself. |
| 16:06.27 | petn-randall | muelli: I already noticed the limitation that's in nearly impossible to fix the names/order of the NICs, so if you have more than one NIC the whole dropbear setup doesn't work. |
| 16:07.04 | muelli | petn-randall: fortunately, I only have one interface during boot |
| 16:07.28 | muelli | petn-randall: I was hoping that I could add a module to the initramfs-tools config and be done with it |
| 16:08.50 | muelli | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/mandos-client looks promising. maybe it already does smth similar to what I want. |
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| 16:11.02 | petn-randall | muelli: Oh wow, good catch! Didn't know about that. I might use it myself. |
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| 16:12.31 | muelli | petn-randall: well.. it's a weird project... I want something more lightweight... |
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| 16:14.17 | GPenguin | or what would be a better place to ask about that? |
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| 16:18.32 | infernix | aren't I supposed to be able to install libc6:armhf when I add that architecture? |
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| 16:19.38 | infernix | oh wait. i probably need to add the arch to sourceslist |
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| 16:20.54 | infernix | there we go. excellent. |
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| 16:35.48 | peppo | hi all |
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| 16:35.54 | peppo | i need help |
| 16:36.24 | peppo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:37.08 | peppo | at the very first boot of the new system, it hangs up with: |
| 16:37.30 | peppo | a start job running LSB |
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| 16:39.14 | peppo | a start job is running for LSB: raise network interface |
| 16:39.24 | peppo | any help? |
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| 16:41.59 | peppo | Is anybody there? |
| 16:42.16 | agric0la | hi |
| 16:42.36 | peppo | could u help me? |
| 16:42.44 | p0wersploit | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=754218 |
| 16:42.45 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/754218 in ifupdown (closed): «boot hangs forever on LSB job "raise network interfaces"»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-07-08; last modified: 2015-01-28. |
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| 16:43.26 | Guest16290 | Hi all, i'm just asking for some help in case anyone faced the same problem and found a solution since after reading some forums it is not clear to me whether it is a bug and/or if there's any workround avaialble. Basically I have used linuxpendrive app to get a live USB installer (debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-xfce-desktop.iso) to install Debian on my second hard drive (first hhd = Windows 7) and everything went well until Grub came int |
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| 16:44.12 | Guest16290 | "grub-pc failed to install into /target" and was wondering if anyone can help on this |
| 16:44.54 | Guest16290 | many thanks in advance |
| 16:44.56 | ChrisH | Guest16290: check on ALT-F4 for a more detailed error reason. |
| 16:45.13 | Guest16290 | thanks, will check it out |
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| 16:45.29 | petn-randall | Guest16290: The problem is pendrive. Use win32imager on Windows or cp on Linux to prepare the image. |
| 16:45.32 | petn-randall | !pendrive |
| 16:45.40 | petn-randall | prods the bot. |
| 16:46.07 | Guest16290 | thank you petn-randall |
| 16:46.23 | ChrisH | ist that something like unetbootin, making weird things? |
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| 16:47.01 | Guest16290 | will give it a try. My suspicius is that grub is trying to create the boot into the usb itself rather than the taget installation... but will check now with win32imager |
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| 16:47.13 | TFrog | anyone here figure out a work around for the issue of using rc.local in Debian 8 to load powertop tuneables yet? i've yet to have rc.local load any commands. |
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| 16:50.10 | teclo- | Hi, what's a GUI ogg player app ? |
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| 16:51.49 | TFrog | teclo- what desktop are you using specifically? that may help me better help you |
| 16:52.00 | teclo- | well right now KDE |
| 16:52.34 | TFrog | amarok should play ogg by default as well as other types of audio files |
| 16:52.52 | TFrog | personally i've drop kicked amarok for audacious which will do the same |
| 16:53.32 | p0wersploit | I like audacious |
| 16:54.35 | TFrog | i do as well p0wersploit. works like winamp and you can set it up in KDE to play cd's which at the present time amarok has issues with. |
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| 16:59.44 | be73 | Trying to install debian from a netinst iso into a kvm vm, I have done it like 10 times today and it worked perfectly, but now the installation hangs on "Configuring console-setup (amd64)" |
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| 17:01.10 | be73 | ctrl+alt+f1 doesnt seem to do anything |
| 17:03.11 | p0wersploit | are you on a TTY console? |
| 17:03.15 | p0wersploit | when that happens? |
| 17:03.40 | be73 | nope, using virt-manager to do the install normally, no tty was open |
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| 17:04.48 | be73 | just verified the checksum of the iso, its not corrupted |
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| 17:05.04 | p0wersploit | possibly https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768188? |
| 17:05.05 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/768188 in netcfg (closed, d-i, ipv6): «Jessie Installer hangs after processing DHCPv6 stateful addressing»; severity: important; opened: 2014-11-05; last modified: 2015-04-03. |
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| 17:06.46 | be73 | judd: nope, it happens when installing the base system at 99% on configuring colsole-setup, it configures the network just fine |
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| 17:06.57 | dimitry7 | Hi guys! |
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| 17:07.55 | dimitry7 | I am desining a debian partitioning scheme, this is for the cloud, AWS, so they restrict I can't encrypt / partition, but I can encrypt the others... what top level directories do you suggest I put in an encrypted partitions?? |
| 17:08.02 | dimitry7 | for example /var, /tmp? what else? |
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| 17:08.15 | p0wersploit | Sorry then I don't know :( that's the extent of info I can find |
| 17:08.23 | agric0la | HelloShitty, |
| 17:08.29 | p0wersploit | Unless there's more information you can give |
| 17:08.55 | p0wersploit | I put everything encrypted but /boot xD |
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| 17:09.18 | be73 | p0wersploit: trying to restart the install now(for the third time)... unfortunately ctrl+alt+f1 and other key combinations dont seem to work so I am unable to get a shell to provide more info |
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| 17:10.10 | keenor | how can i chown a directory and all its sub folders/files |
| 17:10.19 | keenor | just with a /* |
| 17:10.25 | be73 | keenor: chown -R |
| 17:10.27 | p0wersploit | Unless you find someone more able to help, I would try a new iso :-/ |
| 17:10.31 | keenor | thanks of course |
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| 17:10.45 | be73 | keenor: thats recursive, it will chmod all the files inside the subdirectories too |
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| 17:11.27 | dimitry7 | p0wersploit, hehe, all right, I need to put a different partition for each top level directory. What mount options are recommended? for example /tmp: nodev,nosuid,noexec |
| 17:11.40 | dimitry7 | what about /home ? or /var ? |
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| 17:13.04 | p0wersploit | I just use defaults |
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| 17:13.38 | dimitry7 | p0wersploit, okay :-) |
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| 17:14.27 | p0wersploit | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:14.51 | p0wersploit | That's what I did on suggestion of some website |
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| 17:15.30 | dimitry7 | ok ok man, I will apply those too! thanks!! |
| 17:15.44 | p0wersploit | nothing else of mine is special |
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| 17:19.07 | be73 | reboot of the host fixed it, weird (was that the nick I was using before, cant remember :p) |
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| 17:45.46 | d3lphi | is there any tool available like "Irfanview" on Windows, which I can "paste" an image from clipboard, crop it and save it? I am already using Gthumb for cropping, but in GThumb I cannot "paste" something from clipboard into an empty workspace. Gthumb wants the user to "open a file" first for allow processing the image in the following. Is there any IrfanView-like NATIVE tool available on Linux ? |
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| 17:48.23 | be73 | d3lphi: gimp? |
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| 17:50.33 | d3lphi | gimp would work, yes, BUT: it's too heavy and overloaded for that simply task needed. Is there no other lightweight-tool with just a few basic functions (crop, resize, color/greyscale, etc...) ? |
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| 17:55.04 | at0m | d3lphi: KDE has gwenview. console has convert and does batch processing. and there's imagemagic |
| 17:55.20 | be73 | quick verification before I lock myself out of my server: -p tcp -s 192.168.10.0/24 -j ACCEPT should accept all connections from 192.168.10.* right? |
| 17:55.52 | at0m | *imagemagick |
| 17:56.04 | kalebo | Does anyone know the reason lightdm-webkit-greeter has not entered the repos yet? |
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| 17:57.28 | karlpinc | d3lphi: Yes, maybe the display command from imagemagick. There's also feh, which is super handy and lightweight. Don't know how either relate to the clipboard. |
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| 18:00.09 | karlpinc | be73: Consider ferm, which comes with a handy auto-rollback feature. It's really syntatic sugar, but makes writing rulesets much eaiser. |
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| 18:09.43 | dedi | I install package A then it needs package B and also install package B. Now, I want to remove package A but it didnt remove package B. Is there any way to remove package B? I can say package B = the dependencies... |
| 18:09.59 | at0m | deborphan |
| 18:10.20 | greycat | also, apt-get autoremove |
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| 18:11.08 | dedi | greycat, after removing package A, I do apt-get autoremove to remove package B? |
| 18:11.14 | greycat | I believe so. |
| 18:11.40 | dedi | greycat, will try it thanks... |
| 18:12.02 | be73 | Anyone has any git servers to recommend, was about to use gitlab but its a huge memory hog |
| 18:12.10 | be73 | I want http based ones. |
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| 18:13.26 | lrdc | hi i keep getting mail "Cron <smmsp@***> test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp" every 20 minutes. I'm using postfix and already purge all sendmail package. I've searching to /etc/cron.d and cannot find these task. Google didn't help either. |
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| 18:13.55 | lrdc | can someone help me? |
| 18:14.16 | be73 | lrdc: check /etc/crontab |
| 18:14.19 | be73 | and the roots crontab |
| 18:14.23 | lrdc | i did |
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| 18:15.22 | greycat | what does the email *say*? |
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| 18:15.44 | lrdc | be73: it's on /etc/crontab http://pastebin.com/wyx4aKQC |
| 18:16.00 | lrdc | greycat: it's just "/usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 899: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found" |
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| 18:16.06 | lrdc | i get it every 20 minutes |
| 18:16.34 | be73 | lrdc: check the users crontabs on /var/spool/cron |
| 18:16.34 | greycat | Fix that error. |
| 18:16.42 | greycat | !find sbin/sendmail-msp |
| 18:16.58 | p0wersploit | https://www.howtoforge.com/community/threads/i-get-this-email-every-20-minutes.25859/ |
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| 18:17.10 | olofski | hi. my eth0 doesnt go up. etc/network/interfaces looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/etdW2Bo.png |
| 18:17.18 | greycat | remembers when you didn't have to wait several minutes for !find results in #debian |
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| 18:18.01 | be73 | has no idea what the last 2 lines on olofski s config are suposed to do |
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| 18:18.21 | p0wersploit | yeah what are those for |
| 18:18.37 | greycat | You have searched for files named sendmail-msp in suite jessie, all sections, and all architectures. |
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| 18:18.41 | greycat | Sorry, your search gave no results |
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| 18:18.49 | greycat | OK, then I don't know. I don't use sendmail. |
| 18:19.14 | greycat | Try reading stuff in /usr/share/doc/sendmail to see if something changed, that you have to change the crontab to compensate for. |
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| 18:21.50 | be73 | dpkg just left? o.O |
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| 18:22.44 | olofski | be73 isnt that the way to add a permanent route? |
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| 18:23.35 | olofski | removed the last two line. after reboot still no eth0 :/ |
| 18:23.35 | be73 | olofski: I have no idea I have never seen something like that in an interface config |
| 18:23.49 | p0wersploit | Yeah I mean that's the command :P |
| 18:24.16 | p0wersploit | I didn't know it was something you'd put in a config |
| 18:24.34 | be73 | olofski: jsut to get the obvious derps out of the way, make sure your network is actually 192.168.50 and .5 is free |
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| 18:25.59 | olofski | yes, my network is 192.168.50.0/24 |
| 18:26.02 | olofski | and .5 is free |
| 18:26.50 | be73 | olofski: whats the output of ip addr? |
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| 18:27.54 | olofski | http://i.imgur.com/VVKePLS.png |
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| 18:28.07 | at0m | why the up and down route lines when netmask and gateway are specified above? |
| 18:28.19 | olofski | last two lines are already removed |
| 18:28.21 | at0m | olofski: if it's text, pastebin it? |
| 18:28.35 | olofski | cant pastebin |
| 18:28.44 | at0m | ok |
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| 18:36.07 | lrdc | be73: i still cannot find the cron task, i've searched on /var/spool/ the user found is only root.. but i keep getting the mail every 20 minutes, please help me. it's just really annoying |
| 18:36.41 | be73 | lrdc: did you check the links the others provided above? |
| 18:37.02 | lrdc | which link? i got disconnected a while ago |
| 18:37.03 | p0wersploit | That link I gave has the fix yo |
| 18:37.07 | greycat | oh for god's sake... |
| 18:37.17 | p0wersploit | https://www.howtoforge.com/community/threads/i-get-this-email-every-20-minutes.25859/ |
| 18:37.25 | greycat | did you read /etc/crontab and "crontab -l" as root, and "crontab -l" as whoever the email came from? |
| 18:37.41 | greycat | Did you find anything about it in /usr/share/doc/sendmail/* ? |
| 18:37.44 | lrdc | i've already read that before |
| 18:38.16 | lrdc | there was no /etc/cron.d/sendmail |
| 18:38.43 | greycat | Start from the beginning. Don't just to some other distro's answer. |
| 18:38.52 | greycat | The beginning is /etc/crontab + crontab -l |
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| 18:39.37 | lrdc | it's on /etc/crontab http://pastebin.com/wyx4aKQC |
| 18:39.43 | p0wersploit | edit your sendmail.conf |
| 18:40.04 | p0wersploit | or whatever it's called, I don't use it |
| 18:40.27 | greycat | The question is why you have a crontab job running a program called sendmail-msp that does not exist. |
| 18:40.35 | lrdc | i don't have sendmail.conf i already purged it all |
| 18:40.43 | greycat | So either find out how to get that program, or find the crontab entry and comment it out. |
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| 18:40.44 | lrdc | i installed postfix instead |
| 18:40.46 | p0wersploit | That's the problem :P |
| 18:40.54 | p0wersploit | I guess it didn't totally remove |
| 18:40.57 | greycat | OH, YOU PURGED SENDMAIL... gods, why didn't you say so... |
| 18:41.20 | lrdc | i said that im using postfix |
| 18:41.29 | greycat | Now, you said the email came from ... let's see ... 14:13 lrdc> hi i keep getting mail "Cron <smmsp@***> test -x ... |
| 18:41.38 | greycat | Did you run crontab -l as both root, and smmsp? |
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| 18:41.55 | lrdc | how can i run it from smmsp? |
| 18:42.10 | greycat | become root, then become smmsp. "sudo -u smmsp bash" or similar. |
| 18:42.18 | be73 | lrdc: crontab -u ssmsp as root |
| 18:42.24 | be73 | or what greycat said |
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| 18:43.27 | be73 | greycat: btw the command is sudo -u ssmp -s and sudo -u ssmp -i if the shell is disabled |
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| 18:44.02 | greycat | "sudo -u bin bash" worked just fine for me, and user "bin" has shell /usr/sbin/nologin |
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| 18:44.25 | be73 | yea -i does the same thing, less keystrokes |
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| 18:44.34 | lrdc_ | i got this "crontab: user `smmsp' unknown" |
| 18:44.38 | greycat | but I'd have to know it exists, and look up what it means |
| 18:45.09 | be73 | lrdc: have you tried rebooting? just in case something didnt update correctly |
| 18:45.20 | greycat | Rebooting is rarely the answer in Unix/Linux. |
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| 18:45.45 | p0wersploit | ^ |
| 18:45.48 | be73 | but sometimes it is, it was for me a bit ago when debians installation on kvm hanged |
| 18:45.54 | be73 | rebotted the host and everything worked |
| 18:45.55 | p0wersploit | Unless it's a kernel update I never do |
| 18:45.56 | p0wersploit | lol |
| 18:45.57 | lrdc_ | i did restart few times, but it still.. |
| 18:46.08 | be73 | rebooted* |
| 18:46.13 | greycat | In the case of "I purged a pacakge, but it left a crontab behind... somewhere", rebooting won't help. |
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| 18:46.47 | greycat | Figure out which user initiated the crontab job, then become that user and comment it out. |
| 18:47.08 | greycat | You should be able to determine the user name from the email, or from cron's logs, or both. |
| 18:47.17 | greycat | Or by asking someone who knows Debian's sendmail. |
| 18:47.19 | lrdc_ | the mail is sent to root@mydomain |
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| 18:47.28 | be73 | lrdc_: from who? |
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| 18:48.02 | lrdc_ | from Cron Daemon <root@cscpro.org> |
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| 18:48.07 | lrdc_ | .. |
| 18:48.24 | greycat | that's not necessarily the user on whose behalf cron ran it |
| 18:48.58 | lrdc_ | the mail didn't say anything but "/usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 899: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found" |
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| 18:49.20 | greycat | ok, let's try brute force. As root: grep sendmail /etc/crontab ; grep -r sendmail /var/spool/cron/crontabs |
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| 18:49.42 | karlpinc | greycat: There's also /etc/cron.d/ |
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| 18:50.09 | greycat | "because two places wasn't confusing enough" |
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| 18:50.37 | lrdc_ | found nothing |
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| 18:51.07 | greycat | are you sure it's even coming from *this computer*? |
| 18:51.40 | lrdc_ | what you mean by this computer? |
| 18:51.56 | greycat | The computer you are logged in on and typing commands on. As opposed to all the other computers on the internet. |
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| 18:52.09 | greycat | Or on your workplace LAN, etc. |
| 18:52.22 | greycat | Maybe it's some other box that's doing it, and the email is just ending up on your computer. |
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| 18:55.00 | zaffinger | in what logfile do I find networkstuff? |
| 18:55.20 | be73 | zaffinger: degine networkstuff? |
| 18:55.23 | be73 | define* |
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| 18:56.47 | zaffinger | i am olofski. i am still looking for the reason why my eth0 doesnt go up by itself after reboot |
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| 18:57.14 | johnkeates | anyone in here willing to help be debug a gdm->gnome-shell login issue? |
| 18:57.25 | bsirius | zaffinger, are you on a Linux machine? |
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| 18:57.48 | bsirius | zaffinger, sry I thought this was #networking, try looking in your interface config file for ONBOOT= |
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| 18:58.04 | bsirius | zaffinger, it should be YES |
| 18:58.10 | johnkeates | it basically comes down to gdm3 logging me in and starting a gnome-shell session in the background, while the display goes back to gdm greeter, but with ssh i can see gnome-shell running, systemd has a slice for it as well |
| 18:58.33 | zaffinger | bsirius: http://i.imgur.com/wuxRm1T.png |
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| 18:59.27 | zaffinger | what config file in particular? |
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| 18:59.58 | bsirius | zaffinger, before iface eth0 try putting auto |
| 19:00.09 | bsirius | zaffinger, save and reboot |
| 19:00.41 | zaffinger | like for loopback? |
| 19:00.43 | zaffinger | auto eth0 |
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| 19:00.56 | bsirius | zaffinger, ues |
| 19:00.59 | bsirius | *yes |
| 19:01.23 | zaffinger | after hotplug before iface |
| 19:01.29 | zaffinger | i'll give it a try |
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| 19:02.53 | bsirius | zaffinger, actually I'm not too sure about Debian on boot feature, whether you should put auto before the first line or second, maybe someone else can jump in and correct me |
| 19:03.04 | lrdc_ | greycat: you're awesome. i've tried to shutdown the server, but the mail keep sending it to me. o_o |
| 19:04.16 | bsirius | zaffinger, just put "auto eth0" on a new line before the rest of the config |
| 19:04.38 | bsirius | zaffinger, then save and reboot, see if it comes up |
| 19:04.48 | greycat | lrdc_: read the WHOLE email, including the headers, and find out where it's coming from. The "Received:" headers should give the path. Read them bottom up. |
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| 19:10.40 | edoardo | hello |
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| 19:10.56 | edoardo | i can't install wine-staging since i need the package wine-staging-i386 |
| 19:11.10 | edoardo | and i can't find it in apt, even enabling i386 sources |
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| 19:11.59 | be73 | edoardo: how about wine-staging:i386 |
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| 19:12.11 | be73 | no idea if its even there random though |
| 19:12.55 | edoardo | be73: let me try |
| 19:13.14 | bsirius | ping zaffinger |
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| 19:16.28 | edoardo | be73: wine-staging:i386, depends: wine-staging-i386:i386 but it's not gonna be installed |
| 19:16.47 | slackner | edoardo: did you enable multilib? and did you run "apt-get update" afterwards ? |
| 19:16.54 | edoardo | multilib? |
| 19:17.03 | edoardo | yes, i updated and upgraded as well |
| 19:17.12 | edoardo | but i don't know about multilib |
| 19:17.16 | slackner | sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
| 19:17.52 | edoardo | slackner: oh yeah i did that |
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| 19:21.06 | slackner | edoardo: when you added the repo and executed those commands above it should theoretically work, no idea then |
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| 19:21.19 | slackner | edoardo: wine-staging-i386 is part of the repo, so apt-get should be able to find it |
| 19:21.26 | edoardo | but it can't |
| 19:21.55 | slackner | edoardo: did you execute "apt-get update" after enabling multilib ? |
| 19:22.12 | edoardo | wine-staging-i386:i386: depends libgphoto2-port10:i386 but it's not installable |
| 19:22.16 | edoardo | yes i did |
| 19:23.07 | slackner | edoardo: thats an important detail and different from not finding the package at all - did you add the correct repo for your debian distro ? |
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| 19:23.51 | edoardo | i think i found the issue |
| 19:23.51 | edoardo | http://paste.debian.net/plain/182181 |
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| 19:24.53 | slackner | its either caused by the multimedia repo or sid has changed too much, and the repo hasn't been updated yet |
| 19:25.05 | slackner | temporary breakage of dependencies is nothing unusual on sid ;) |
| 19:25.08 | zwarag | I'm still running Debian 7.8. How long will I get security updates? |
| 19:25.30 | greycat | At least another 11 months. Maybe longer if they get the wheezy-lts (long term support) going. |
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| 19:25.46 | zwarag | allright |
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| 19:26.33 | edoardo | slackner: that repo doesn't have testing so i used sid |
| 19:26.45 | edoardo | but i'm running testing |
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| 19:27.49 | slackner | edoardo: there will be a separate repo for stretch soon |
| 19:28.58 | edoardo | slackner: oh i can see your commits on wine-staging |
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| 19:29.09 | edoardo | any eta on the repo? :) |
| 19:29.21 | edoardo | i have some new games i'd like to play |
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| 19:31.17 | slackner | edoardo: we're currently moving our build servers, the new setup (including packages for stretch and a couple more distros) should be available during the next two or three days |
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| 19:31.33 | edoardo | nice! thank you |
| 19:31.36 | slackner | edoardo: feel free to hang out in #wine-staging if you want to be informed about the progress ;) |
| 19:31.48 | edoardo | yeah i was just searching for the channel |
| 19:33.33 | be73 | about to setup kvm on a nuc with a celeron, not sure if itll blow up in my face, or work |
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| 19:50.53 | kingsley | I'm testing sid's kernel package. |
| 19:51.16 | kingsley | It has version 4.0 of the kernel. |
| 19:51.29 | kingsley | I seem to have found 2 or 3 bugs. |
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| 19:51.43 | kingsley | I had to increase the limit of open files, and create /var/tmp |
| 19:51.57 | kingsley | However, booting 4.0 hangs at BusyBox's prompt. |
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| 19:52.09 | kingsley | It complains about 1.) not being able to create /sys/kernel/uevent_helper, 2.) the boot device not existing, and 3.) module ehci-orion not being found in modules.dep. |
| 19:52.25 | kingsley | Suggestions welcome. |
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| 19:55.37 | greycat | Ok. Note to self: NEVER EVER EVER accidentcally type "/list debian-next" again. Holy fuck. |
| 19:55.49 | zaffinger | bsirius ty |
| 19:55.51 | zaffinger | very much |
| 19:56.03 | greycat | kingsley: /msg dpkg debian-next |
| 19:56.07 | bsirius | zaffinger, what happened |
| 19:56.17 | zaffinger | reboot and everything is fine |
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| 19:56.41 | bsirius | zaffinger, I'm glad to hear it's resolved, thanks for letting us know about it |
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| 20:00.19 | kingsley | greycat: That's a good idea. Thank you. |
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| 20:10.07 | hyper-googler | hi getting connection refused after setting tightvncserver and loading it on boot. A manual load insures me that it is running. but not sure which process it is to make sure its not stopping. anyone know what the process is doing ps -a | grep -i vnc shows nothing |
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| 20:13.30 | elm | how to install mod-ssl on Debian8? |
| 20:13.51 | elm | and: is there no more suphp module for apache2 in Debian8? |
| 20:14.56 | elm | can I do an apt-file search online? |
| 20:15.06 | greycat | http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 20:18.15 | Cazalia | Linux here; trying to put an .iso on a CD; using k3b . . . and it tells me not to do it as "root" user, that it's bad for security. So ... "root" user should not make CDs from .isos? never? What's the deal? |
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| 20:19.01 | tswartz | Because you shouldn't be using root to do anything |
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| 20:19.40 | Amun_Ra | Cazalia: root user shouldn't run user program |
| 20:20.07 | be73 | tswartz: well, apt-get dd and a few other programs are exceptions :p |
| 20:20.19 | tswartz | be73, sudo apt-get ;) |
| 20:20.27 | be73 | tswartz: sudo = root |
| 20:20.29 | tswartz | I say that and I sit here with 3 open terminals on other systems su'd to root |
| 20:20.40 | tswartz | sudo logs for later review |
| 20:20.46 | tswartz | where's your HIPAA? |
| 20:20.49 | be73 | not with sudo -s ;p |
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| 20:21.06 | xAstaraOS | =>PACKETSTORMSECURITY <= http://packetstormsecurity.com , EliteZ => http://worldhacker.org <= , => FuruDora Operating System http://209.132.181.23 <= Welcome to Channel ##AstaraOS ISO AUDITED OPERATING SYSTEM |
| 20:21.20 | Cazalia | how does "root" backup her files to a CD then? |
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| 20:22.50 | tswartz | Cazalia, it's just a warning. The wrath of Linus isn't going to come down and strike you dead if you burn a CD using root |
| 20:22.55 | greycat | with non-graphical cd writing programs |
| 20:23.04 | tswartz | ^^^ |
| 20:23.25 | be73 | tswartz: the wrath of the sysadmin might tho |
| 20:23.58 | Cazalia | isn't root supposed to make installations of OSes, and apps, and packages? "root" has to make CDs from .isos of those things, no? |
| 20:24.28 | greycat | Some CD writer authors say the CD writer must run as root. Others disagree. |
| 20:24.30 | greycat | Who the hell knows. |
| 20:24.54 | be73 | Cazalia: less privileges always, if you can do it with a regular user, just do it |
| 20:24.58 | greycat | There was a huge flurry of changes in the early 2.6.x kernels in this area, too. |
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| 20:26.16 | Cazalia | i thought regular users were not allowed to make installations of software packages in the system |
| 20:26.56 | be73 | Cazalia: they can in their home, not in the system directories tho |
| 20:27.06 | greycat | writing to a CD has nothing to do with installing packages |
| 20:27.16 | be73 | well, manually install the binaries would be a better phrasing |
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| 20:39.19 | bivo | First time installing Debian, so far so good, however the default repos are, well limiting to say the least, what are some good repos to expand on the available software? |
| 20:40.11 | shay_shay | hai |
| 20:40.30 | quique | bivo: you can add non-free |
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| 20:40.34 | quique | deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 20:40.54 | quique | if you are interested in non-free software |
| 20:41.59 | bivo | quique I was surprised that stuff like Pidgin, MPV and VLC wern't in the repos |
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| 20:42.42 | jelly | bivo: all three of those are present in Debian 8 |
| 20:42.47 | greycat | ,v vlc |
| 20:42.48 | judd | Package: vlc on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-5~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2.0.3-5+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 2.1.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.2.0~rc2-2; sid: 2.2.1-1+b1; stretch: 2.2.1-1+b1; wheezy- |
| 20:42.49 | judd | multimedia: 1:2.0.6-dmo3; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo4 |
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| 20:43.28 | greycat | it's raining vlc |
| 20:43.39 | jelly | wear a cone. |
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| 20:44.23 | bivo | jelly apparently not in the LXDE version, using a Pentium M, so standard Debian would have beet a bit too sluggish |
| 20:44.37 | greycat | *what* |
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| 20:44.48 | jelly | bivo: you just need to install them. |
| 20:45.15 | greycat | If by "standard Debian" you meant "GNOME" then yeah, maybe, but that's just GNOME. You can simply, like, not install GNOME. |
| 20:45.18 | bivo | jelly I searched for them in Synaptic, they weren't there |
| 20:45.29 | greycat | bivo: apt-get install vlc |
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| 20:45.56 | jelly | bivo: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy pidgin mpv vlc; apt-cache policy", please. Use http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 20:46.36 | WangDang_ | Hi, I'm trying to set up apt-cacher. Trying to run apt-get on the server itself, I get the errors like in this paste: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/638b3e78/. searching the web for these errors has not turned up anything useful. Can anyone suggest what might be going on? |
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| 20:47.59 | MrTest_ | @bivosudo apt-get install apt-xapian-index then: sudo update-apt-xapian-index -vf then search again in synaptic.. |
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| 20:57.51 | jelly | !tell bivo about jessie sources.list |
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| 21:12.34 | d3lphi | In Windows7 I was able to press "PRINT" to copy the whole desktop content into the clipboard or "ALT+PRINT" to copy the content of the active/selected window into the clipboard. How can I do that on Debian Jessie with gnome-shell? When I press "PRINT" key I hear an audio sound and get a visual flash and the content of the whole screen is automatically saved in a file within my "Pictures" directory with file |
| 21:12.39 | d3lphi | name "screenshot_bla.jpg" I don't want to autosave as a filename. |
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| 21:14.34 | shay_shay | trying to edit a file with mousepad when browsing smb with thunar and gvfs-backends, mousepad opens up with a new file. I can't browse to the share in mousepad "open file" dialog either. mounting the entire share to local filesystem seems like kinda a kludge. linux mint xfce has it working that way (just through thunar) so I know it is possible. halp?? |
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| 21:16.57 | shay_shay | its a workstation where any user needs to browse network and edit files, point and click |
| 21:17.10 | at0m | d3lphi: http://www.manpagez.com/man/1/xwd/ |
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| 21:21.04 | shay_shay | !tell bivo about non-free |
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| 21:22.25 | shay_shay | erm, non-free sources |
| 21:23.08 | shay_shay | bivo: you need to add contrib non-free to all your apt source lines |
| 21:23.20 | shay_shay | if you want non-free software such as vlc |
| 21:24.31 | somiaj | shay_shay: vlc is in main, though I guess it could use non-free codecs |
| 21:25.40 | shay_shay | oh, it used to be in non-free |
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| 21:27.02 | jelly | shay_shay: vlc is free software, and so are pidgin and mpv. No need for non-free, |
| 21:27.04 | jelly | there. |
| 21:27.24 | jelly | and vlc has always been free software. |
| 21:28.06 | shay_shay | I googled "vlc non-free" and found this, http://damien.degois.info/debian/pool/non-free/v/vlc/ |
| 21:28.16 | shay_shay | so you can understand why I got mixed up |
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| 21:28.59 | shay_shay | ofc on closer look that's just someones private repo and its wrong |
| 21:29.15 | jelly | better verify your information before providing it as help |
| 21:29.38 | ctmjr | and it's 5 years old |
| 21:30.12 | jelly | vlc did have a relicensing a couple years ago, but it was from one DFSG-compliant license to another |
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| 21:46.20 | Amun_Ra | there's also deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ / |
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| 22:06.30 | Adasser | Hi, I've download and Burnt the 3 Debian DVDs - When I install the first 1, in a point it asks me to read the rest, but it doesn't do anything with them. |
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| 22:08.48 | Adasser | This channel is alive, right? |
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| 22:10.33 | Milencho | i'm almost asleep |
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| 22:12.43 | Cazalia | Adasser: i think it's doing something; it just doesn't give you any clue about what's going on. Some deeply held superstition in Unix that it is a better thing at install time to only give the user a blank screen while the system is processing the installation. |
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| 22:13.43 | Cazalia | Adasser: so, you'll have to let it run for half an hour? one hour? two? I don't know. Until iit's done, or you get tired of waiting. |
| 22:13.58 | Adasser | Cazalia, I suppose it would ask me to choose what I want to install... from the packages in the DVDs |
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| 22:14.33 | Adasser | It just reads them, and asks for the Disk1... I'll have to re-run it, I can't exactly remember now xD |
| 22:15.16 | Cazalia | Adasser: in my system it takes up to ten minutes for the installer to come out of its "blank screen . . . doing something" state. |
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| 22:19.38 | karlpinc | The general expectation is that you use the netinstall method. That minimizes the downloading if you're only installing on one system. |
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| 22:23.46 | ryouma | "some deeply held superstition". you have just made many things about booting and installation make sense. |
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| 22:31.36 | dimitry7 | Hi, is this benchmark still usefull for Debian? https://benchmarks.cisecurity.org/tools2/linux/CIS_Debian_Benchmark_v1.0.pdf |
| 22:35.20 | phogg | that's... not a benchmark |
| 22:36.15 | phogg | I love the way the authors avoid using ed and sed -i. |
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| 22:41.38 | phogg | dimitry7: I would say, having read about half, that it has some good advice if taken broadly. Each thing that they recommend securing should, if installed, be secured, but not necessarily in the manner specified. Some information is out of date. |
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| 22:44.42 | D-Boy | My mouse cursor just disappears, it still here i can see when i move it to highlight items on the screen, right click shows the menu but the mouse cursor is invisible |
| 22:44.57 | D-Boy | how to restore it without restarting the dekstop ? |
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| 22:49.18 | dimitry7 | is this entry valid: tmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec0/dev/shm<0><0> ? |
| 22:49.27 | dimitry7 | in /etc/fstab |
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| 22:49.59 | dimitry7 | phogg, Nice, so I will take into account some recommendatins (the ones that fit), thanks man!! |
| 22:50.22 | phogg | dimitry7: Basically just read each section heading, mostly ignore the contents. |
| 22:50.48 | dimitry7 | phogg, all right, I will do that! |
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| 22:52.30 | car | hi there. what is a good software/solution for (server-side) email-archiving? |
| 22:55.52 | car | scratch that question :) |
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| 23:01.07 | socomm | Is it possible to check a NTFS partition from Debian? |
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| 23:07.20 | Resilience | hello to everyone, I am using debiain testing, and in the updates has appeared the gcc-5 (and g++-5) if I install this version the old/standard one gets replaced? or doesn't? |
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| 23:13.10 | dev1deb | does anyone know if steam working on devuan? |
| 23:14.02 | ctmjr | dev1deb: ask them |
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| 23:14.52 | dev1deb | okay ty |
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| 23:15.19 | sadtaco | I'm getting this error 'nginx: [emerg] duplicate upstream "php" in /etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default.save' Is it loading both /default and /default.save or something? Because "upstream php" is only defined once, though the two files are the same.. |
| 23:16.45 | somiaj | sadtaco: yea it is probably read both files, you only want default in that directory (as a link) and then edit the actual file in sites-available |
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| 23:17.12 | somiaj | sadtaco: so just move the .save one to the sites-available directory so you have it if needed |
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| 23:17.52 | sadtaco | Thanks. Wonder how that happened... |
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| 23:28.42 | poorrick | Can anyone direct me to a non-netinst iso for debian? |
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| 23:36.43 | Dreamix | poorrick: what kind of Debian version ? |
| 23:37.39 | Dreamix | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.0.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 23:37.46 | Dreamix | it's the latest |
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| 23:41.14 | nonewhatsover | can anyone recommend me a *free* service similar to wetransfer that allows your to transfer files(say 100 MB) and does not require to state the sender's email address (not even a temporary or throwaway one)? |
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| 23:47.01 | poorrick | Dreamix: Did I read correctly somewhere that CD1 has enough for a minimal install? |
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| 23:49.55 | guillaume1 | hello got a big problem just installed the nvidia driver and noe got black screen with _ |
| 23:50.13 | guillaume1 | i am only in terminal for now no access to desktop |
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| 23:51.19 | Dreamix | poorrick: yes, actually i am suggesting you to use the DVD version |
| 23:51.22 | Dreamix | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/ |
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| 23:51.57 | Dreamix | you can even burn them all, they are just 3 hehe :D |
| 23:51.58 | p0wersploit | did you run nvidia-xconfig |
| 23:52.04 | p0wersploit | when you installed the driver |
| 23:52.06 | guillaume1 | yes |
| 23:52.37 | guillaume1 | ho |
| 23:52.37 | p0wersploit | Your driver won't work but if you want a GUI for troubleshooting delete the xorg.conf it made |
| 23:52.47 | guillaume1 | maybe not i just downloded |
| 23:52.53 | guillaume1 | i have not run it |
| 23:52.56 | p0wersploit | Downloaded from their site? |
| 23:53.00 | p0wersploit | or apt-get? |
| 23:53.04 | guillaume1 | no no aptitude |
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| 23:53.08 | p0wersploit | Okay |
| 23:53.18 | p0wersploit | install nvidia-xconfig |
| 23:53.20 | p0wersploit | and run it |
| 23:53.22 | p0wersploit | and reboot |
| 23:53.23 | guillaume1 | so i only run nvidia-xconfig with su |
| 23:53.27 | p0wersploit | yes |
| 23:53.38 | guillaume1 | yhea if i don'T came back it'S that worked thanks |
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