| 00:00.02 | roothorick | reinstalling rsyslog failed to configure because, surprise, it hung and timed out trying to start |
| 00:00.03 | multiverse | And thatâs it |
| 00:00.16 | roothorick | so now apt is in a bad state too |
| 00:00.28 | SynrGy | not sure if it's relevant, but i'd normally use allow-hotplug not auto |
| 00:00.34 | roothorick | I'm surprised I can get to the internet |
| 00:00.45 | SynrGy | and i think that's the default |
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| 00:01.08 | TacoGS | That actually looks fine to me |
| 00:01.10 | maazu | only reason i'm here is because i'm booting a different linux distro :( |
| 00:01.19 | TacoGS | multiverse: Try looking at the dmesg |
| 00:01.30 | TacoGS | perhaps even grep eth0 |
| 00:02.02 | multiverse | Well, Taco, ifup eth0 works after logging in |
| 00:02.07 | TacoGS | I know |
| 00:02.19 | multiverse | ok |
| 00:02.22 | TacoGS | but what I am getting at is that it may tell you in the messeges why it fails the first time |
| 00:02.44 | multiverse | youâre right |
| 00:03.01 | roothorick | so why didn't anyone tell me that systemd made syslogd's redundant? Not in the changelog either? |
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| 00:03.30 | multiverse | Nothing has been logged in dmesg yet |
| 00:03.55 | marieta | After booting livecd and loading the logo, screen turns off and doesn't go on. Already tried 64bit, 32 bit (i686 and i586) |
| 00:03.56 | TacoGS | interesting, perhaps it is not even triggering |
| 00:03.58 | computerquip | I... can't seem to get transmission off of xdg mime list lol |
| 00:04.36 | roothorick | let's reboot and see what else explodes violently |
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| 00:06.31 | maazu | Sysinfo for 'tharkus': Linux 2.6.32.23-170.fc12.x86_64 running KDE Development Platform 4.4.5 (KDE 4.4.5), CPU: Intel(R) Core 2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz at 2101 MHz (4189 bogomips), HD: 65/181GB, RAM: 1303/2008MB, 181 proc's, 52.11min up |
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| 00:07.08 | computerquip | Oh! It's a meta package that just brings in other packages... I see that now... and that makes sense. |
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| 00:19.54 | RickHull | Hi, lately I've had some problems with Iceweasel on an old core2duo laptop |
| 00:20.06 | RickHull | namely, a browser tab running some javascript can bring the machine to its knees |
| 00:20.18 | RickHull | is there a good linuxy way to prevent this? |
| 00:20.36 | RickHull | quotas or cpulimits or nice or something? |
| 00:20.37 | Vainglory | I have a Jessie desktop install, and whenever I start my system the mouse cursor doesn't show up for about 30 seconds. Why is this? |
| 00:21.06 | RickHull | Vainglory: that's not normal. you might look through some Xorg-related logs |
| 00:21.24 | Vainglory | RickHull: Where would those be at? |
| 00:21.31 | RickHull | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:21.32 | maazu | Vainglory: same with other distros; it depends on the scheduler running which process |
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| 00:21.41 | RickHull | maazu: was that for me? |
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| 00:22.25 | RickHull | i'm running Jessie, very vanilla |
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| 00:26.36 | BSD64 | Hello, everyone. I have troubles getting cmatrix to work in wheezy :( |
| 00:26.52 | Vainglory | RickHull: So what file should I be looking at? cat Xorg.0.log | grep mouse gives me ... https://bpaste.net/show/1d8d14dcb9a6 |
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| 00:27.09 | roothorick | okay, it's functional enough that I can sort-of see what's going on |
| 00:27.12 | BSD64 | I can't perform the -l option on cmatrix |
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| 00:27.22 | RickHull | Vainglory: see if those timestamps confirm the 30 second delay |
| 00:27.38 | roothorick | systemd-logind and systemd-journald hang immediately. EXACTLY every minute the watchdog times out and restarts them |
| 00:28.01 | roothorick | (and when I say exactly I mean to the second) |
| 00:28.09 | Vainglory | RickHull: Looks about right |
| 00:28.11 | RickHull | Vainglory: e.g. is that 49 seconds into Xorg startup? |
| 00:28.20 | Vainglory | Yes, I imagine |
| 00:28.22 | BSD64 | nobody interested in cmatrix? |
| 00:28.25 | roothorick | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:28.29 | RickHull | so see what has it been doing between 10s and 47s |
| 00:28.34 | roothorick | I'm relying on journalctl |
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| 00:29.27 | AshleyNX | Hey everyone |
| 00:29.32 | RickHull | Vainglory: my mouse stuff is done ~5 s into Xorg.0.log |
| 00:29.42 | BSD64 | AshleyNX: hey |
| 00:29.45 | Vainglory | RickHull: Well, log starts at 46.935? |
| 00:29.57 | AshleyNX | Just tweaking Debian 8 SID :P |
| 00:30.17 | BSD64 | AshleyNX: Do you know how to get "cmatrix -l" to work? |
| 00:30.27 | Vainglory | [ 46.935] X.Org X Server 1.16.4 Release Date: 2014-12-20 ..... [ 46.936] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 ..... [ 46.936] Build Operating System: Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 x86_64 Debian |
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| 00:30.51 | RickHull | Vainglory: hm, mine starts at 4.555 |
| 00:31.07 | RickHull | i'm not sure how the timestamps are calculated |
| 00:31.10 | AshleyNX | yours dont work? |
| 00:31.25 | AshleyNX | BSD64: cmatrix -l works fine here |
| 00:31.25 | BSD64 | AshleyNX: No. Not with -l |
| 00:31.27 | roothorick | I guess this old server's cruft is finally catching up to it |
| 00:32.01 | maazu | bogomips timing out of whack!? |
| 00:32.05 | RickHull | Vainglory: just to confirm: `head -n1 /var/log/Xorg.0.log` |
| 00:32.06 | BSD64 | AshleyNX: I don't have xorg installed |
| 00:32.27 | AshleyNX | oh |
| 00:32.32 | AshleyNX | ;/ |
| 00:32.33 | Vainglory | RickHull: [ 46.935] |
| 00:32.40 | BSD64 | AshleyNX: Do you think thats a problem? |
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| 00:32.58 | AshleyNX | yea BSD64 |
| 00:33.15 | BSD64 | =( |
| 00:33.18 | RickHull | Vainglory: so it looks like your mouse is recognized within 1 second, fully configured within 3 |
| 00:33.31 | RickHull | not sure what's happening before t=46.9 in your Xorg |
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| 00:33.48 | RickHull | are you using gnome/gdm? |
| 00:33.54 | Vainglory | yes |
| 00:33.57 | BSD64 | is afk now |
| 00:35.17 | RickHull | Vainglory: ok, so let's go through a boot timeline. POST, then Grub, then gdm takes over? |
| 00:35.23 | RickHull | or are you using e.g. `startx`? |
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| 00:35.43 | Vainglory | gdm takes over, this is a regular Jessie DVD Gnome desktop install |
| 00:35.52 | RickHull | ok |
| 00:35.58 | RickHull | this is really not my area of expertise at all |
| 00:36.17 | RickHull | i'm not sure if gdm depends on Xorg running, or if gdm launches Xorg |
| 00:36.23 | RickHull | do you have a mouse in the gdm session? |
| 00:36.30 | p0wersploit | I think it depends on Xorg |
| 00:36.32 | RickHull | e.g. to click on the text box for username |
| 00:36.37 | p0wersploit | Just logically I would think so. |
| 00:36.37 | Vainglory | No, it doesn't show up there either |
| 00:37.01 | Vainglory | i mean, i have a mouse... i can click things. i just don't have a cursor. |
| 00:37.07 | Vainglory | if that makes sense |
| 00:37.07 | RickHull | ohhh |
| 00:37.27 | p0wersploit | Heh I've seen someone I know have that exact problem |
| 00:37.29 | maazu | adavita package? |
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| 00:37.31 | p0wersploit | I don't remember the fix |
| 00:37.42 | RickHull | is it only in gdm you don't have a cursor? |
| 00:37.59 | maazu | need to install some mouse icons package adavita ? |
| 00:38.08 | Vainglory | no, it happens every time. |
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| 00:38.20 | Vainglory | on the desktop, during boot, etc |
| 00:38.43 | RickHull | well before gdm loads, you won't have a cursor |
| 00:38.56 | RickHull | gdm is the first thing that is mouse aware AFAIK |
| 00:39.28 | RickHull | so let's say you boot up, gdm loads, and you login (but without a cursor) |
| 00:39.32 | p0wersploit | try dconf write /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/cursor/active false |
| 00:39.42 | RickHull | in your desktop environment, do you still not have a cursor? |
| 00:39.49 | RickHull | and then magically 20s later it appears? |
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| 00:40.04 | Vainglory | I have one. I think I might have found a fix. |
| 00:40.05 | Vainglory | sec |
| 00:40.07 | Vainglory | brb |
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| 00:42.57 | p0wersploit | This is really old but might help |
| 00:42.58 | p0wersploit | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12665/lost-mouse-pointer-in-xserver |
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| 00:43.50 | grog | hello, im running "Cubian" on a cubieboard... how do i add UFS support? readonly is fine. there's no ufs.ko and the ufsutils i installed doesnt seem to do anything |
| 00:45.15 | x86iac | grog: grep ufs /boot/config |
| 00:45.35 | roothorick | from what I can tell, the systemd notify socket is broken |
| 00:45.43 | x86iac | grog: grep -i ufs /boot/config |
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| 00:45.54 | grog | there is no /boot/config, this is an embedded ARM board slightly different setup but uhh debian-based ;) |
| 00:45.58 | roothorick | first it wasn't existing but I can't figure out how to create it or whether it was supposed to be created |
| 00:46.25 | x86iac | you'll need to make the driver |
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| 00:47.28 | Vainglory | it doesn't have anything to do with xorg, it appears |
| 00:47.30 | grog | this? https://github.com/mmplayer/cubian-packages/tree/master/linux-headers-3.4.79-sun4i/usr/src/linux-headers-3.4.79-sun4i/fs/ufs |
| 00:47.42 | p0wersploit | Hmmm |
| 00:47.56 | grog | im on 3.4.75-sun4i tho |
| 00:48.08 | grog | let's try updating.. |
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| 00:48.24 | roothorick | ...I'm right. I can see it in the strace, it tries to send WATCHDOG=1 on the socket but gets ECONNREFUSED |
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| 00:48.53 | roothorick | maybe daemon-reexec wasn't good enough. Sigh, rebooting again. |
| 00:48.59 | roothorick | wait |
| 00:49.12 | roothorick | no, it is running as root |
| 00:49.14 | roothorick | grr |
| 00:50.06 | p0wersploit | Any logs in like .cache or some of the other xsession types in home that have anything about the cursor? |
| 00:50.14 | p0wersploit | You probably checked just wondering |
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| 00:51.12 | maazu | p0wersploit: did you know your cursor can be a cat running around the screen or a pair of eyes blinking? |
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| 00:51.28 | p0wersploit | Yes I did |
| 00:51.29 | Vainglory | p0wersploit: i did not check those. |
| 00:51.35 | maazu | p0wersploit: the cursor package, adavitya |
| 00:51.36 | p0wersploit | >_> I don't get your point though |
| 00:52.16 | Vainglory | /var/cache? |
| 00:52.55 | p0wersploit | no .cache in /home directory |
| 00:53.22 | p0wersploit | /home/user I mean |
| 00:53.42 | Vainglory | fontconfig is in there |
| 00:54.05 | Vainglory | i mean, a lot of things are.. but just pointing out fontconfig |
| 00:54.06 | p0wersploit | Hmmm... you got a .xessions-errors in your home |
| 00:54.10 | p0wersploit | mine's kind of different |
| 00:54.11 | p0wersploit | :P |
| 00:54.14 | RickHull | did you compile Xorg with --no-really-id-like-to-have-a-visible-mouse-cursor ? |
| 00:54.25 | Vainglory | RickHull: I didn't compile Xorg |
| 00:54.31 | p0wersploit | Are you using any specific video drivers? |
| 00:54.32 | RickHull | dang, there goes that theory |
| 00:54.40 | p0wersploit | I might find more info there |
| 00:54.46 | Vainglory | p0wersploit: no. do you want my hardware info? |
| 00:54.50 | p0wersploit | Yeah |
| 00:54.58 | Vainglory | it happens on another system too |
| 00:54.59 | p0wersploit | Or your graphics hardware anyway |
| 00:55.07 | Vainglory | both are laptops, if that matters |
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| 00:55.23 | RickHull | touchpads? |
| 00:55.25 | p0wersploit | It shouldn't >_< Just thinking of how to narrow possibilities |
| 00:55.27 | Vainglory | no |
| 00:55.29 | RickHull | have you tried plugging in a usb mouse? |
| 00:55.31 | maazu | gotta go |
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| 00:55.33 | Vainglory | how would i get videoo hardware? |
| 00:55.42 | Vainglory | RickHull: that's the joke. i'm using a usb mouse and it still happens |
| 00:55.53 | RickHull | ok, so regardless of using built-in or usb? |
| 00:55.55 | p0wersploit | lspci | grep VGA |
| 00:55.58 | p0wersploit | Maybe >_> |
| 00:56.03 | p0wersploit | I have nvidia drivers though |
| 00:56.10 | Vainglory | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) |
| 00:56.11 | p0wersploit | Should work regardless |
| 00:56.16 | p0wersploit | Yeah :) |
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| 00:58.13 | Vainglory | any idea :(? |
| 00:58.21 | AshleyNX | Steve Miller - Blinded by the light .:: NOW PLAYING ::. |
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| 00:58.52 | Vainglory | AshleyNX: i was unaware we were speaking using windows live messenger, and the year was 2003 |
| 00:59.02 | AshleyNX | huh?? Vainglory |
| 00:59.11 | AshleyNX | my music script for irssi sorry |
| 00:59.12 | AshleyNX | >.> |
| 00:59.23 | Vainglory | AshleyNX: it's a joke, a lot of people would have their songs as their 'status'. |
| 00:59.24 | p0wersploit | I'm trying >_< |
| 00:59.29 | p0wersploit | I'm using all my powers of google |
| 00:59.37 | Vainglory | p0wersploit: take as long as possible, |
| 00:59.44 | RickHull | the googles, they do nothing! |
| 00:59.55 | Vainglory | it just didn't seem like that was very specific info for the card |
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| 01:00.11 | RickHull | Vainglory: probably not a video driver problem. intel stuff is very well supported |
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| 01:00.41 | p0wersploit | Try this command |
| 01:00.43 | p0wersploit | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:00.43 | p0wersploit | gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false |
| 01:00.51 | p0wersploit | lol copy and pasted too much |
| 01:00.55 | p0wersploit | just the command |
| 01:01.02 | p0wersploit | from https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7672 |
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| 01:01.10 | Vainglory | one moment |
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| 01:02.49 | Vainglory | so where would i put that so it works permanently? |
| 01:03.08 | p0wersploit | That command should be permanent I think> |
| 01:03.27 | p0wersploit | dconf write /org/gnome/settings-daemon/plugins/cursor/active false |
| 01:03.30 | p0wersploit | also |
| 01:03.43 | p0wersploit | not sure which is better |
| 01:03.55 | Vainglory | alright, one moment |
| 01:04.06 | Vainglory | ok, restarting |
| 01:04.08 | Vainglory | wish me luck |
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| 01:04.31 | p0wersploit | I wouldn't think you'd need to restart' |
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| 01:13.55 | Vainglory | YES |
| 01:13.57 | Vainglory | that fixed it |
| 01:13.59 | Vainglory | :D |
| 01:14.06 | p0wersploit | Yay! |
| 01:14.16 | Vainglory | what was the link? |
| 01:14.17 | dvs | boooo |
| 01:14.25 | Vainglory | i'd like to bookmark it |
| 01:14.31 | p0wersploit | https://labs.riseup.net/code/issues/7672 |
| 01:14.43 | Vainglory | awesome, thanks :D |
| 01:14.53 | p0wersploit | the dconf one was http://superuser.com/questions/799512/virtualbox-debian-jessie-guest-has-invisible-mouse-after-update |
| 01:15.00 | p0wersploit | I'm not sure which you used or fixed it |
| 01:15.34 | Vainglory | i used.. |
| 01:15.55 | Vainglory | gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.cursor active false |
| 01:16.02 | p0wersploit | Yeah the first link |
| 01:16.06 | p0wersploit | :) |
| 01:16.53 | p0wersploit | Well glad ya fixed it :D I'm gonna pack up and go home wanted to finish helping first |
| 01:17.43 | Vainglory | i really appreciate it |
| 01:17.54 | Vainglory | it's been bothering me since i first installed jessie back in january |
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| 01:21.39 | roothorick | I am losing my mind or something |
| 01:22.02 | roothorick | systemd fails to create the run/systemd/notify socket. I can manually create it but it won't use it. When I reboot it just deletes it. |
| 01:22.14 | roothorick | this breaks... a lot. |
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| 01:22.30 | roothorick | the same machine just straight-up fails to boot every other boot |
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| 01:22.51 | roothorick | drops into emergency maintenance for no apparent reason |
| 01:23.19 | AshleyNX | ^ ? |
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| 01:26.57 | beepie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:36.59 | roothorick | what do you do? What do you do, when a normal upgrade leaves you with a very broken system for reasons that apparently no one ever has had to deal with, ever, and you haven't a clue how to fix it |
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| 01:37.40 | head8debian | roothorick: fresh install. |
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| 01:37.56 | roothorick | and before you ask. /run/systemd/notif gets deleted somewhere during the boot. Where? Don't know. Why? Don't know. |
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| 01:38.30 | head8debian | When it gets to that, there isn't much left to do. |
| 01:39.09 | roothorick | this is ridiculous though. I never screwed with systemd. Is wheezy->jessie just plain broken? |
| 01:39.20 | head8debian | No it isn't. |
| 01:39.40 | head8debian | But there are the .01% that has it fail/has issues. |
| 01:39.47 | head8debian | I happened to be one of them. |
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| 01:46.17 | roothorick | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761306 -- based on this |
| 01:46.19 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/761306 in systemd (closed): «v208 -> v215 upgrade fails to re-open notification socket»; severity: serious; opened: 2014-09-12; last modified: 2015-01-19. |
| 01:46.33 | roothorick | the most likely scenario I can think of is a race condition unrelated to the upgrade |
| 01:46.40 | roothorick | which means reinstalling jessie fresh would be a futile endeavor |
| 01:47.00 | roothorick | I guess it's time to move my last holdout to Ubuntu |
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| 02:13.18 | minitrue | hi! im trying to make a usb stick with windows7 from debian (dont hate me, its temporal and theres a good reason). |
| 02:13.28 | minitrue | i tried with dd |
| 02:14.28 | minitrue | but it dosent boot. anyone can recommend anything? |
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| 02:17.58 | buu | minitrue: what file do you have windows in? |
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| 02:26.38 | minitrue | buu: .iso |
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| 02:29.42 | cwong2012 | seems like my iptables file is preventing me from accessing port 80: -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited AND -A FORWARD -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited. basically i am trying to setup when i hit port 80, it redirects to port 8080. but the 2 REJECTS are blocking me. |
| 02:29.50 | cwong2012 | heres what i have: https://paste.ee/r/DeaaO |
| 02:29.56 | cwong2012 | can i set it up for redirect WITHOUT deleting them? |
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| 02:31.55 | p0wersploit | Accept port 80 and do the redirect AFTER the rejection possibly? |
| 02:32.21 | cwong2012 | k |
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| 02:32.35 | p0wersploit | I think the last rule takes precedence? |
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| 02:34.41 | p0wersploit | check out man iptables :) That should help |
| 02:34.59 | cwong2012 | so this line is the one thats preventing me: -A INPUT -j REJECT --reject-with icmp-host-prohibited. the FORWARD line is fine. |
| 02:35.52 | cwong2012 | ah ha!!! |
| 02:36.01 | p0wersploit | Yeah that should be the one preventing you |
| 02:36.14 | p0wersploit | Figure it out? |
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| 03:14.13 | Skolervee | hi momoterra |
| 03:14.22 | momoterra | yo |
| 03:14.47 | Skolervee | I just installed q4os with liquorix and i'm efin' thrilled. |
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| 03:16.23 | momoterra | lol what is that |
| 03:16.26 | Vainglory | ok, so i'm trying to setup google authenticator for 2 factor authentication for ssh. i followed https://www.mnxsolutions.com/security/two-factor-ssh-with-google-authenticator.html and .. it just lets me right in with my regular ssh key and doesn't ask for anything having to do with the google authenticator.. |
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| 03:16.49 | Skolervee | It's debian with Trinity desktop. KDE3 basically. but it's tweaked has wifi and power savings. |
| 03:16.53 | Vainglory | only difference is i did apt-get install google-authenticator |
| 03:16.59 | momoterra | oh cool |
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| 03:17.06 | Vainglory | correction, apt-get install libpam-google-authenticator |
| 03:17.10 | momoterra | i forgot why im in this channel lol |
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| 03:17.32 | Skolervee | Cause Canada is boring lol :> |
| 03:17.38 | momoterra | lol |
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| 03:20.20 | momoterra | must be because of freeswitch |
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| 03:22.10 | Skolervee | Enough foliage it almost looks like BC. The winter sure wont |
| 03:22.30 | Skolervee | Wrath of plants |
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| 03:23.03 | momoterra | ?? |
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| 03:23.11 | momoterra | wrath of plants? |
| 03:26.14 | Skolervee | My ascetic interpretation of the chloroplasts of the trees |
| 03:26.56 | Skolervee | Those beliefs that get people in trouble |
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| 03:30.08 | Skolervee | http://downloads.khinsider.com/game-soundtracks/album/shadowgate/sg04.mp3 |
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| 03:32.15 | momoterra | lol |
| 03:32.21 | momoterra | dont know what your talking about |
| 03:32.26 | momoterra | you on medication tonight |
| 03:32.41 | momoterra | the funny kind? |
| 03:33.54 | Skolervee | You have to see it to believe. |
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| 03:35.49 | AshleyNX | Hey Debian users |
| 03:35.59 | Skolervee | Hello |
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| 03:40.29 | AshleyNX | whats a good package manager for debian |
| 03:40.43 | Akuw | aptitude |
| 03:40.56 | AshleyNX | i have .deb file i need to auto install it |
| 03:40.59 | shay_shay | apt-get |
| 03:41.02 | shay_shay | oh |
| 03:41.07 | shay_shay | AshleyNX: gdebi |
| 03:41.31 | AshleyNX | thanks |
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| 03:42.43 | vegardx | Just be careful with the autoremove feature of aptitude |
| 03:42.52 | AshleyNX | yea |
| 03:43.18 | shay_shay | I never use aptitude because apt-get never suggests removing all of gnome |
| 03:43.28 | shay_shay | like aptitude can |
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| 03:43.33 | vegardx | You have a deb file? Well then you use dpkg to install it. |
| 03:43.56 | vegardx | shay_shay: Which makes it even worse that it suggests removing packages every time |
| 03:43.58 | AshleyNX | gdebi works for me im lazy |
| 03:44.15 | AshleyNX | my browser of choice is links |
| 03:44.37 | vegardx | So you needed a grahpical installer? :p |
| 03:44.48 | AshleyNX | :P |
| 03:44.49 | vegardx | (I'm sure gdebi also has a CLI interface) |
| 03:45.03 | shay_shay | vegardx: reading between the lines I think AshleyNX wants to install it and use it in as few steps possible. gdebi has CLI interface yes |
| 03:45.30 | vegardx | shay_shay: Goodie! And if he has a graphical interface installed I think that is standard on debian as well? |
| 03:45.42 | AshleyNX | yea :P it wasnt worth the hassle as it's only dropbox.deb |
| 03:46.06 | shay_shay | AshleyNX: the regular way: dpkg -i foo.deb; apt-get install -f |
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| 03:46.33 | shay_shay | vegardx: gdebi doesn't require a desktop to use |
| 03:47.14 | vegardx | Doesn't require, no. But it's not in the base install unless you have selected a desktop enviroment |
| 03:47.17 | vegardx | as far as I can tell |
| 03:47.29 | shay_shay | its not in the desktop tasks either |
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| 03:48.04 | vegardx | Aha, so then he should just stick with dpkg and apt-get to get dependencies in |
| 03:48.10 | vegardx | as you showed him |
| 03:48.15 | shay_shay | that wasn't a requirement of the OP, |
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| 03:49.59 | AshleyNX | shay_shay: is awesome thanks |
| 03:50.11 | Kung_Fury | hi |
| 03:50.13 | themill | (the desktop tasks would normally cause gdebi-core to be installed) |
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| 03:52.46 | Vainglory | following https://moocode.com/posts/5-simple-two-factor-ssh-authentication-with-google-authenticator i get .. bash: /usr/bin/two_factor_ssh: Permission denied ... what should the file be set to? |
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| 03:53.47 | vegardx | Don't do that through PAM, because then you can't use pubkey authentication, which is a lot safer. |
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| 03:54.36 | Vainglory | vegardx: lolwut? |
| 03:54.41 | vegardx | There are some hacks around it, where you have a forced command when you log in, which is the two-factor solution, but that is hacky as fuck. |
| 03:54.52 | Vainglory | i'm using pubkey + google authenticator now. |
| 03:55.08 | Vainglory | shrug. it works, and i don't see how it's bad |
| 03:55.40 | vegardx | Just read the link you posted, it even says it there. |
| 03:56.26 | vegardx | Aha, this is the hacky forced command shit. |
| 03:57.08 | Vainglory | i set the mode to 600, user to the user i'm logging in as ( let's say user:user ) and chmod +x on the file |
| 03:57.13 | Vainglory | vegardx: is it insecure? |
| 03:57.16 | vegardx | Yes |
| 03:57.24 | Vainglory | would you like to test that concept? |
| 03:57.26 | tensorpudding | Why is multiarch so broken nowadays? |
| 03:57.27 | vegardx | You can just terminate the program through a memory leak or whatever |
| 03:57.40 | shay_shay | vegardx: you sound like you need a hug. |
| 03:57.43 | vegardx | Vainglory: I just need to force the host system to kill the process, and I'm in. |
| 03:57.46 | shay_shay | hugs vegardx |
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| 03:57.50 | tensorpudding | It seems like anytime I need to install a 32-bit library on Debian, the package is uninstallable. |
| 03:57.50 | vegardx | shay_shay: I do! :) |
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| 03:58.08 | vegardx | We should have more hugs. |
| 03:58.12 | Vainglory | and how would you force the host system to kill processes if i'm using this way? |
| 03:58.27 | vegardx | Input enough data to exhaust it from memory and make OOM killer go rampant? |
| 03:58.42 | Vainglory | considering i'm not using any type of password authentication, and am using google authenticator PLUS keys? |
| 03:58.57 | tensorpudding | It was like, things work so, so much worse now than they did when there was just a huge package of 32-bit libraries you could install. |
| 03:59.18 | vegardx | Yeah, you're probably safe given that you use keys. But now you're just adding layers which has no real security. |
| 03:59.42 | tensorpudding | Was expecting that to be fixed when jessie released, but ha, no. |
| 03:59.48 | vegardx | Put your keys on a smartcard, or atleast encrypt it locally. |
| 04:00.06 | Vainglory | pubkey + google authenticator is 'no real security'? |
| 04:00.26 | vegardx | The last part is no real security, as I've told you why |
| 04:01.02 | vegardx | You just spend more time typing in the code, as where someone who wants to get in just uses a myriad of ways to kill a ruby application. |
| 04:01.45 | vegardx | Just my five cents! :) |
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| 04:06.11 | Vainglory | just tested that 2fa |
| 04:06.22 | Vainglory | was authenticated in one terminal, and was running htop |
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| 04:06.43 | Vainglory | i went to another terminal and it prompted me for the google authenticator code. i then killed the program. |
| 04:07.04 | Vainglory | i was then prompted with Connection to [IP ADDRESS REDACTED] closed. |
| 04:07.19 | Vainglory | so whoever said it was 'insecure' is an idiot. |
| 04:07.25 | Vainglory | have a nice day |
| 04:07.27 | vegardx | Why thank you. :) |
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| 04:12.55 | dahui | hi all... i just install debian 8 (xfce4) and i install sakura terminal but it's not getting transparency... can someone share the config file to i take a look to see what is different? |
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| 04:38.59 | KiNG1 | has anyone figured out the 'su' leakage? |
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| 04:39.28 | d0nTc4Re | long live the stretch |
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| 04:41.38 | j` | KiNG1 |
| 04:41.39 | j` | tell me more |
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| 04:43.38 | KiNG1 | j`, capturing 'su' input from specific IP ranges? |
| 04:43.48 | j` | tell me more |
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| 04:44.00 | KiNG1 | reswh0re is the one who told me not to trust the Debian developers... |
| 04:44.11 | KiNG1 | \o\ |
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| 04:44.26 | KiNG1 | how bout i demonstrate it? |
| 04:44.31 | j` | tell me more |
| 04:44.41 | KiNG1 | no |
| 04:44.48 | KiNG1 | never will i speak to you again |
| 04:44.49 | j` | TELL ME MORE |
| 04:44.52 | KiNG1 | ditto BOT |
| 04:44.53 | j` | :@ |
| 04:44.56 | KiNG1 | o_O |
| 04:44.57 | j` | lol |
| 04:45.00 | j` | I'm not a bot |
| 04:45.01 | j` | :] |
| 04:45.08 | KiNG1 | écrità |
| 04:45.13 | KiNG1 | odemto |
| 04:45.14 | j` | o_O |
| 04:45.16 | KiNG1 | Gnight |
| 04:45.19 | j` | :[ |
| 04:45.28 | KiNG1 | Rest assure everything is ok and it won't leak, just know that it is there... |
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| 05:29.05 | allorder | yes |
| 05:29.13 | allorder | oops too late |
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| 05:40.44 | zumba_addict | hi folks, I ran this command on my debian(beaglebone) apt-get update && apt-get upgrade and it ran for close to an hour. I'm not sure if it ended well. These are the last lines that I saw on my screen - http://pastebin.com/PBfEWDhb |
| 05:42.00 | buu | It does appear to hate your insserv conf |
| 05:42.12 | buu | Doesn't sound very debian specific though |
| 05:42.17 | zumba_addict | k |
| 05:42.53 | themill | !missing lsb tags |
| 05:42.53 | dpkg | From 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, Debian uses a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires all init scripts having appropriate headers, so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from 3.1 "Sarge" and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 05:42.57 | themill | you need to fix led_aging.sh |
| 05:43.58 | zumba_addict | themill: just noticed that is for me :) |
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| 05:44.40 | zumba_addict | ok, i'll search for that script |
| 05:46.09 | themill | zumba_addict: in /etc/init.d/ |
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| 05:46.23 | zumba_addict | yup, saw it here too https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/beagleboard/LPjCn4LEY2I |
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| 05:48.17 | themill | zumba_addict: yeah, a header like the one mentioned there should work |
| 05:48.43 | zumba_addict | looks like it still won't work, i don't have the led_acc binary |
| 05:49.23 | zumba_addict | maybe i need to install it first |
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| 05:49.38 | themill | well just delete the init script if you don't use it anyway |
| 05:50.07 | zumba_addict | k |
| 05:50.43 | zumba_addict | then i'll rerun the apt-get update && apt-get upgrade again? |
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| 05:52.28 | themill | "apt-get -f install" will hopefully be enough |
| 05:52.56 | zumba_addict | k |
| 05:53.59 | zumba_addict | it's running |
| 05:54.06 | zumba_addict | it's done |
| 05:54.44 | zumba_addict | what are your thoughts about the output? http://pastebin.com/jk2DTNL7 |
| 05:54.44 | allorder | good |
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| 05:55.43 | zumba_addict | if I do this again apt-get update && apt-get, will it start from very beginning? |
| 05:55.45 | allorder | sound good |
| 05:55.49 | zumba_addict | k |
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| 06:00.53 | atgnag__ | Why is fuse.service masked? |
| 06:01.05 | atgnag__ | (I assume this is the case for most debian users) |
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| 06:02.01 | AshleyNX | does Ian ever talk in here |
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| 06:02.46 | zumba_addict | will apt-get update know system is already updated? |
| 06:03.04 | allorder | why not |
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| 06:10.26 | zumba_addict | allorder: i was thinking of rerunning it |
| 06:10.48 | zumba_addict | just to make sure everything is good since it failed earlier |
| 06:12.27 | AshleyNX | Morning zumba_addict you running debian jessie too? |
| 06:12.39 | LMNOP | hmm is jessie a man or woman |
| 06:12.44 | zumba_addict | AshleyNX: it's beaglebone black |
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| 06:13.31 | AshleyNX | *launches links in terminal* |
| 06:13.38 | zumba_addict | this is the output of uname Linux beaglebone 3.8.13-bone47 #1 SMP Fri Apr 11 01:36:09 UTC 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux |
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| 06:14.36 | AndrewMock | In jessie, what is the most graceful way of turning off computer? |
| 06:14.36 | zumba_addict | looks like my debian on beaglebone is fine |
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| 06:14.57 | LMNOP | IS JESSIE MAN OR WOMAN |
| 06:15.10 | LMNOP | anylkne know? |
| 06:15.49 | zumba_addict | i saw one error but I think it's just a warning - http://pastebin.com/FW1HVx5L |
| 06:15.49 | LMNOP | *anyone lol |
| 06:15.49 | AshleyNX | duck tapes LMNOP's mouth |
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| 06:16.48 | LMNOP | immhh jesphh amm mamnn uh momuh |
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| 06:17.38 | AndrewMock | In jessie, what is the most graceful way of turning off the computer? |
| 06:17.45 | AshleyNX | zumba_addict: *turns on kinect and plays zumba* |
| 06:17.58 | zumba_addict | :D hehehe |
| 06:18.19 | AshleyNX | Let's do this |
| 06:19.27 | AshleyNX | notices LMNOP is quiet so removes duck tape |
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| 06:20.06 | LMNOP | pheww |
| 06:20.23 | AndrewMock | k |
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| 06:22.21 | AshleyNX | anyone know what the fox said? |
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| 06:24.07 | AshleyNX | points to zumba_addict |
| 06:24.36 | allorder | slaps AshleyNX |
| 06:24.44 | AshleyNX | owie |
| 06:24.53 | AshleyNX | starts crying |
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| 06:26.35 | AshleyNX | stairs at allorder with evil look in eye |
| 06:26.41 | zumba_addict | :D |
| 06:27.15 | allorder | wow |
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| 06:35.06 | jimbo1qaz | there is 1 explanation: linux hates me. |
| 06:35.29 | jimbo1qaz | Jessie XFCE. I try to modify path in .profile, not read in lightdm sessions. |
| 06:36.14 | jimbo1qaz | I instead modify .xsession, which causes black-screen hang. |
| 06:36.24 | jimbo1qaz | So I move .xsession to .xinitc, which works fine surprisingly. |
| 06:36.26 | jimbo1qaz | Issue fixed. |
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| 07:18.00 | Shibe | guys |
| 07:18.04 | Shibe | I just got a debian vps |
| 07:18.05 | Shibe | but |
| 07:18.09 | Shibe | when I do apt-get install pypy |
| 07:18.14 | Shibe | or apt-get install screenfetch |
| 07:18.17 | Shibe | it says "no such package" |
| 07:18.23 | Shibe | even tried doing apt-get update |
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| 07:20.17 | allorder | did you try aptitude show "package" |
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| 07:20.51 | Shibe | allorder: "aptitude command not found" |
| 07:21.10 | allorder | apt-get install aptitude |
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| 07:21.29 | allorder | you installed a minimal installation maybe |
| 07:21.40 | Shibe | allorder: yeah it was for a VPS |
| 07:21.58 | allorder | ok |
| 07:21.59 | GPenguin | what says /etc/debian_version? |
| 07:23.01 | allorder | its for you Shibe |
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| 07:23.16 | Shibe | GPenguin: my machine is debian 7 64 bit |
| 07:23.20 | Shibe | according to hoster |
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| 07:23.47 | GPenguin | pypy was not in the archives when version 7 turned stable |
| 07:23.52 | GPenguin | its old_stable now |
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| 07:24.00 | Shibe | GPenguin: then how do I install it |
| 07:24.05 | Shibe | its not even installing screenfetch |
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| 07:24.12 | GPenguin | maybe you can find pypy in the backports.org repositories |
| 07:25.00 | Shibe | GPenguin: its here https://packages.debian.org/sid/pypy |
| 07:25.03 | Shibe | how do i install it |
| 07:25.03 | GPenguin | otherwise you might have to fiddle things by yourself (install from source) or upgrade to debian 8 |
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| 07:25.31 | GPenguin | you cant just install a random package from a higher repository |
| 07:25.41 | GPenguin | it has dependencies |
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| 07:26.59 | Shibe | GPenguin: cant i have like |
| 07:27.01 | Shibe | missing repos? |
| 07:27.09 | Shibe | since it is a minimal install |
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| 07:27.57 | mo1991reg | p;lllloooooouygggggggggggf. |
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| 07:28.03 | mo1991reg | damm cat |
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| 07:46.23 | Shibe | o.o |
| 07:46.32 | Shibe | my system shut down "this system is going down for halt now!" |
| 07:46.37 | Shibe | any way i can check wtf happened? |
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| 08:04.53 | c0de1 | test |
| 08:04.55 | c0de1 | hi |
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| 08:05.19 | Xialla | works^^ hi.) |
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| 08:05.38 | c0de1 | :) |
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| 08:13.02 | Rephlexie | tab slipped, sorry >.< |
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| 08:36.36 | Shibe | how do I add something to my PATH so i can access it from anywhere |
| 08:37.31 | c0de1 | you can add a line like export PATH=/wahtever:$PATH |
| 08:37.37 | c0de1 | to .bash_profile |
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| 08:42.20 | Shibe | c0de1: ok |
| 08:42.21 | Shibe | also |
| 08:42.24 | Shibe | how do I uh |
| 08:42.36 | Shibe | transfer files from my windows machine to my VPS using openssh? |
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| 08:45.43 | c0de1 | um |
| 08:45.48 | c0de1 | use winscp on your windows macine |
| 08:46.06 | Shibe | ok |
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| 08:55.01 | Shibe | how do I add something to PATH using terminal? |
| 08:55.10 | Shibe | such as /root/pypy/pypy/bin |
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| 09:24.42 | AndChat1776 | Hi Debian folks! |
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| 09:25.15 | petn-randall | hi AndChat1776! |
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| 09:52.50 | mjt | Hello. Installed jessie, trying to play an .avi file, it says "MPEG-4 Video" code is missing. Isn't it part of libavcodec56 package (which is installed) ? |
| 09:52.59 | mjt | s/code/codec/ |
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| 09:53.24 | mjt | using vlc |
| 09:54.23 | centrx | I like 'mpv' |
| 09:54.33 | centrx | but check if there are packages that vlc Suggests or Recommends that you don't have installed |
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| 09:57.11 | mjt | actially I lied. It is not vlc, the video opens in Nautilus using "video" program by default, whichever it is. |
| 09:57.14 | mjt | vlc works |
| 09:57.31 | mjt | what is this "video" program in gnome? |
| 09:57.41 | mjt | totem? |
| 09:58.17 | centrx | mjt, dpkg -S video might tell you what package provides it |
| 09:58.39 | centrx | mjt, It might also be a placeholder for some internal Gnome thing |
| 09:58.46 | mjt | it's the latter |
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| 10:00.06 | mjt | so it's totem (when I click on a video in nautilus, it starts totem, stupidly naming it "vide") |
| 10:00.13 | mjt | totem is using gstreamer |
| 10:00.23 | DocMAX2 | hello |
| 10:00.25 | mjt | and I need plugins for gstreamer, not libav |
| 10:00.37 | DocMAX2 | what happens if i have 1 package on 2 repositories? |
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| 10:01.00 | DocMAX2 | (same name but different versions) |
| 10:01.01 | mjt | DocMAX2: there are apt preferences for that |
| 10:01.19 | DocMAX2 | i need the package from 2nd repo |
| 10:01.33 | mjt | there's no such thing as "1st" or "2nd" repo |
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| 10:01.50 | DocMAX2 | ok i have elasticsearch |
| 10:02.01 | DocMAX2 | apt-get install elasticsearch |
| 10:02.02 | mjt | each repo is named differently, and each name is assigned a weight in apt |
| 10:02.24 | DocMAX2 | elasticsearch is on 2 apt sources |
| 10:02.35 | DocMAX2 | the one of debian and one of the vendor |
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| 10:02.43 | mjt | you can give it exact version, apt-get install foo=bar |
| 10:02.58 | mjt | or you can give it name of repository, apt-get install -t repo foo |
| 10:04.22 | DocMAX2 | sudo apt-get -t "http://packages.elasticsearch.org stable/main" install elasticsearch |
| 10:04.25 | DocMAX2 | ?? |
| 10:04.27 | mjt | no |
| 10:04.36 | mjt | the codename of that repository |
| 10:04.47 | DocMAX2 | where do i find it? |
| 10:04.59 | mjt | when you run apt-get update it prints the codename it updates |
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| 10:05.23 | mjt | see the InRelease files in /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
| 10:05.32 | DocMAX2 | i just se |
| 10:05.35 | DocMAX2 | OK http://download.webmin.com sarge/contrib amd64 Packages |
| 10:05.36 | DocMAX2 | OK http://de.archive.ubuntu.com vivid/universe Sources |
| 10:05.36 | DocMAX2 | OK http://packages.elasticsearch.org stable/main i386 Packages |
| 10:05.36 | DocMAX2 | OK http://download.webmin.com sarge/contrib i386 Packages |
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| 10:05.53 | mjt | oh ma. /me runs away scared |
| 10:05.59 | mjt | it is not debian anymore |
| 10:06.10 | DocMAX2 | oh ok |
| 10:06.11 | swift110-phone | Ll |
| 10:06.41 | mjt | centrx: the missing package was gstreamer1.0-libav, a glue between gstreamer and libav/ffmpeg |
| 10:07.07 | DocMAX2 | sudo apt-get -y install elasticsearch=1.4.4 |
| 10:07.10 | DocMAX2 | thats it |
| 10:07.18 | mjt | centrx: somehow I don't see it is recommended by anything |
| 10:07.40 | mjt | DocMAX2: that's exact version |
| 10:07.57 | mjt | (you can see which versions are availabe by using apt-cache policy $package) |
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| 10:09.28 | c0de1 | still getting this error when running apt-get/aptitude upgrade http://paste.debian.net/188495/ |
| 10:09.44 | c0de1 | since updating to debian jessie from wheezy |
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| 10:12.08 | K-202 | Miracle has happened! I was to extract installer files into HDD partition and my broken (for many years) CD-ROM started to work! |
| 10:12.57 | swift110-phone | Hmm |
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| 10:16.11 | centrx | c0de1, You have some kind of virtualization system running? |
| 10:16.40 | centrx | c0de1, dpkg -a --configure ?? |
| 10:16.53 | c0de1 | yes kvm |
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| 10:17.17 | c0de1 | insserv: Service libvirt-bin has to be enabled to start service libvirt-guests |
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| 10:18.28 | c0de1 | centrx, kvm and my vms work fine, i just get that error whenever running apt-get/aptitude upgrade |
| 10:18.41 | c0de1 | has to be something to do with systemd/compatibilities? |
| 10:20.01 | centrx | c0de1, I mean normally I would recommend uninstalling these packages, then reinstalling them, but you don't want to remove virtualization libraries that the running system may depend on? |
| 10:20.48 | mjt | c0de1: remove the 2 libvirt packages for now, perform the upgrade, and install them again |
| 10:21.16 | c0de1 | it's already upgraded to jessie |
| 10:21.27 | c0de1 | oph |
| 10:21.28 | c0de1 | oh |
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| 10:21.38 | mjt | but i guess it wont work |
| 10:21.40 | c0de1 | removing those packages will shutdown my VMS though |
| 10:21.45 | c0de1 | plus i tried that before |
| 10:21.49 | c0de1 | didn't work |
| 10:22.19 | mjt | do you have updated initscripts which weren't installed? |
| 10:22.29 | mjt | check /etc/init.d/*.dpkg-* |
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| 10:23.13 | c0de1 | mjt, http://paste.debian.net/188496/ |
| 10:23.15 | Rephlexie | its not distro spcific either, seems to be notable issue. |
| 10:24.06 | mjt | c0de1: so you modified these in previous versions, now new versions hasn't been installed due to local mods, now it conflicts |
| 10:24.17 | mjt | c0de1: do you remember what did you modify there? |
| 10:24.20 | c0de1 | sadly no |
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| 10:24.33 | c0de1 | oh, may have been something to autostart vms. but i can't remember |
| 10:24.47 | mjt | cd /etc/init.d; mv libvirt-guests libvirt-guests.dpkg-old; mv libvirt-guests.dpkg-dist libvirt-guests |
| 10:25.09 | mjt | anyone remember what's foo.dpkg-remove ? |
| 10:25.33 | mjt | guess it is removal of obsolete conffile |
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| 10:25.53 | mjt | c0de1: try the above renames and dpkg --configure -a |
| 10:26.16 | mjt | c0de1: this will keep your old modified script in .dpkg-old, just in case |
| 10:26.25 | c0de1 | libvirt-guests didn't exist |
| 10:26.40 | c0de1 | mv libvirt-guests.dpkg-dist libvirt-guests fixed it! |
| 10:26.46 | c0de1 | (at least no errors in upgrade) |
| 10:26.53 | Rephlexie | nice |
| 10:27.05 | mjt | so you removed it before |
| 10:27.12 | mjt | not modified but removed |
| 10:27.25 | c0de1 | I don't remember doing that actually |
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| 10:27.44 | mjt | and now the post-install script is a bit buggy |
| 10:27.54 | mjt | anyway, it should work now :) |
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| 10:28.02 | c0de1 | thanks mjt :) |
| 10:28.06 | mjt | did it remove the .dpkg-remove one ? |
| 10:28.26 | c0de1 | i believe so, yes |
| 10:28.36 | c0de1 | now I just see the .old one |
| 10:28.48 | mjt | .old ? |
| 10:28.57 | c0de1 | /etc/init.d/libvirt-guests.dpkg-old |
| 10:29.07 | mjt | bah |
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| 10:29.17 | mjt | lol |
| 10:29.35 | c0de1 | lol |
| 10:29.36 | c0de1 | well thanks |
| 10:29.42 | c0de1 | it was getting to be annoying :P |
| 10:29.42 | mjt | can you paste result of the last dpkg run ? |
| 10:29.55 | mjt | which "fixed" things? |
| 10:30.10 | c0de1 | i never run dpkg directly, just aptitude upgrade |
| 10:30.24 | c0de1 | here though http://paste.debian.net/188497/ |
| 10:30.59 | mjt | so no word about the initscripts. |
| 10:31.12 | c0de1 | hopefully all works well after reboot |
| 10:31.23 | mjt | you can check whenever these two files are actually parts of the current packages |
| 10:31.36 | mjt | dpkg -c /var/cache/apt/archives/libvirt-guests_....deb |
| 10:31.36 | dpkg | mjt: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 10:31.40 | mjt | shut up |
| 10:31.57 | mjt | and if they're there, you'll have to restore them |
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| 10:32.12 | mjt | or else your guests wont start |
| 10:32.33 | c0de1 | mjt, this? http://paste.debian.net/188498/ |
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| 10:33.12 | mjt | well, somewhere in there. but apparently you already deleted them |
| 10:33.24 | mjt | apt-get install --reinstall -d libvirt-bin libvirt-guests |
| 10:33.36 | mjt | to make them available again |
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| 10:34.22 | mjt | or how's the package named? |
| 10:34.36 | mjt | I think it is just libvirt-bin |
| 10:35.08 | mjt | libvirt-bin is a dummy package nowadays |
| 10:35.44 | mjt | it is libvirt-daemon-system |
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| 10:36.08 | mjt | and /etc/init.d/libvirt-guests is there together with libvirtd, both are needed |
| 10:36.41 | fommil | hi all. I'd like a few packages added/upgraded in Debian, but I don't have time to go through the maintainer process myself. Are there any maintainers willing to do it for $$$? |
| 10:37.21 | mjt | c0de1: try reinstalling libvirt-daemon-system and verify /etc/init.d/libvirt-guests exists. it needs to be there. |
| 10:37.48 | centrx | fommil, Here's one possibility: https://www.freexian.com/services/debian-packaging.html |
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| 10:39.23 | c0de1 | back, guests start fine |
| 10:39.34 | mjt | heh |
| 10:39.48 | mjt | so /etc/init.d/libvirt-guests exists? |
| 10:40.24 | m4L3_Bug5 | ping |
| 10:40.25 | c0de1 | yes it doos |
| 10:40.49 | mjt | ok |
| 10:40.50 | c0de1 | *does |
| 10:41.20 | m4L3_Bug5 | hii |
| 10:41.26 | c0de1 | hi |
| 10:41.35 | m4L3_Bug5 | *does |
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| 10:43.16 | fommil | centrx: cool, thanks |
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| 10:44.00 | mjt | c0de1: so you can rm the .dpkg-old one from there ;) |
| 10:47.38 | c0de1 | :P |
| 10:50.42 | SynrGy | fommil: while it's good centrx gave you at least one to look at, it's probably more appropriate we refer you to https://www.debian.org/consultants/ than single out a single consultant |
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| 10:51.41 | centrx | SynrGy, ah, good idea. Freexian popped to mind because of their LTS work |
| 10:51.51 | SynrGy | sure |
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| 10:52.58 | centrx | SynrGy, although that list doesn't say what each consultant does, e.g. IT sysadmin vs packaging |
| 10:53.03 | centrx | Seems like a big oversight |
| 10:53.24 | SynrGy | true, but then that's a bug to file on www.debian.org to collect and present that sort of info to improve the usefulness of the page :) |
| 10:53.31 | SynrGy | feel free to file it |
| 10:53.38 | centrx | I'll put it on my list |
| 10:53.42 | Rephlexie | Last Modified: Wed, Dec 25 11:26:45 UTC 2013 |
| 10:53.48 | centrx | ^ That too |
| 10:54.03 | SynrGy | Rephlexie: that doesn't say a thing |
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| 10:54.43 | Rephlexie | What do you mean? |
| 10:54.51 | SynrGy | i mean, i don't know if it accurately reflects additions to the list of consultants, or just edits to the page |
| 10:54.57 | SynrGy | it's script-generated is what i mean |
| 10:55.02 | Rephlexie | Ahh! |
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| 10:55.27 | Rephlexie | Yeah I was actually thinking about that after I pasted it |
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| 10:58.09 | centrx | Expect a bug report to be filed on this subject in four to six weeks. |
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| 11:08.42 | jamesmcm | is anyone familiar with iptables and network namespaces? |
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| 11:08.46 | jamesmcm | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/206488/using-a-vpn-for-certain-applications-via-a-network-namespace |
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| 11:26.05 | blackpenguin | jamesmcm: you need a MASQUERADE rule on outgoing packets on wlan0 - even if your router would accept packets from 10.200.200.0/24 (and it probably doesn't anyway) it wouldn't know where to send answers to. |
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| 11:27.25 | fommil | SynrGy: cool, thanks for the list. Almost too many choices now |
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| 11:30.46 | DocMAX2 | anyone on hyper-v??? |
| 11:30.57 | DocMAX | ? |
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| 11:37.03 | jamesmcm | blackpenguin: I tried to add one |
| 11:37.29 | jamesmcm | blackpenguin: iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -s 10.200.200.0/24 -o wl+ -j MASQUERADE |
| 11:37.34 | jamesmcm | is there a problem there? |
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| 11:44.22 | centrx | jamesmcm, Also try ##networking |
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| 11:44.29 | centrx | jamesmcm, or a different time of day |
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| 11:47.57 | cdb23ax | hello can someone help me i have troubles setting up a rtmp server for twitch streaming |
| 11:48.29 | cdb23ax | i used the following tutorial https://killpond.wordpress.com/2014/08/26/twitch-streaming-using-two-machines-without-a-capture-card/ |
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| 11:48.38 | cdb23ax | no error messages in error.log |
| 11:48.56 | cdb23ax | just cant push the stream to twich if i connect to my rtmp server locally it works |
| 11:49.04 | cdb23ax | even no traffic is generated |
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| 11:50.45 | petn-randall | cdb23ax: Is this on a Ubuntu machine like in the tutorial? |
| 11:50.55 | cdb23ax | no debian 7 |
| 11:51.30 | DocMAX | there is a bug with hyper-v and dynamic memory, anyone noticed? |
| 11:51.46 | petn-randall | DocMAX: Care to be more specific? |
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| 11:52.43 | DocMAX | allthough hyper-v is expanding memomy, debian doesn't use it |
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| 11:54.25 | petn-randall | cdb23ax: Then it's possible that it won't work that way because the software versions are different. So the streaming from the gaming PC to the Debian box works, and you can also look at the stream from there? |
| 11:54.25 | DocMAX | i start with 512MB RAM |
| 11:54.39 | petn-randall | DocMAX: What is the bug exactly? |
| 11:54.44 | cdb23ax | yes i can |
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| 11:55.29 | DocMAX | i start with 512MB RAM, then i start a memory intensive application... hyper-v is explanding memory to 800 MB |
| 11:55.30 | petn-randall | cdb23ax: Did you use the packaged nginx version, or did you build it yourself? |
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| 11:55.37 | DocMAX | i can see this on htop |
| 11:55.45 | cdb23ax | i compiled it from source |
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| 11:55.52 | DocMAX | but debian starts to swap after 512MB |
| 11:55.57 | DocMAX | understand me? |
| 11:56.23 | zu22 | i am trying to send outbound mail (to gmail address), i installed exim4 but when i go to send mail it tells me there is no such command as "mail". which package provides this command? |
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| 11:56.38 | cdb23ax | i downloaded it from http://nginx.org/download/nginx-1.2.4.tar.gz |
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| 11:56.51 | petn-randall | DocMAX: So you're virtualizing a Debian VM on a Windows machine, and you see different memory usage on the host and the guest? |
| 11:57.01 | c0de1 | nginx 1.2.4 is old |
| 11:57.06 | DocMAX | yes |
| 11:57.15 | DocMAX | petn-randall, yes |
| 11:57.22 | zu22 | any idea? |
| 11:57.36 | c0de1 | check sysctl, swappiness? |
| 11:57.38 | petn-randall | zu22: If you install 'command-not-found', you can simply run 'mail' and it will tell you which package to install. IIRC there are several that give you this option. |
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| 11:58.06 | zu22 | petn-randall: oh nice thanks :) |
| 11:58.19 | vandox | zu22 mailutils |
| 11:58.33 | zu22 | vandox: thanks! |
| 11:58.37 | petn-randall | vandox: Don't give the fish, teach how to fish :) |
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| 11:59.04 | DocMAX | petn-randall, it works on ubuntu server |
| 11:59.05 | vandox | hands zu22 a rod and a string |
| 11:59.08 | petn-randall | DocMAX: So how much RAM have you assigned to the machine, and how much do you see in htop? |
| 11:59.34 | DocMAX | petn-randall, initial RAM ist 512 MB |
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| 12:00.30 | DocMAX | after some time i see 850 MB assigned |
| 12:00.40 | DocMAX | but 474 MB used |
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| 12:01.06 | DocMAX | it does not exceed 474 MB |
| 12:01.18 | DocMAX | but starts swapping |
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| 12:03.16 | DocMAX | i see a memory increase |
| 12:03.22 | DocMAX | but debian is not using it |
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| 12:10.50 | DocMAX | petn-randall? |
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| 12:16.58 | DocMAX | still alive? |
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| 12:18.10 | DocMAX | SHES ALLIVE!! ALIIIIVEEEEE! |
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| 12:18.26 | dvs | kills it |
| 12:18.39 | vandox | Want some fire? |
| 12:18.56 | DocMAX | file in the whole!! |
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| 12:21.40 | c0de1 | hole |
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| 12:22.01 | unborn | DocMAX, you should be around 1280 to 1500 mb after all services boot up.. your ram consumption is normal if you are on 64bit os.. |
| 12:22.47 | DocMAX | on boot i'm at 90 MB |
| 12:22.56 | DocMAX | i have debian server |
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| 12:23.03 | DocMAX | headless |
| 12:23.03 | unborn | DocMAX, yeah.. i have it too.. |
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| 12:23.32 | DocMAX | i read debian 7.x does not support hyper-v dynamic memory |
| 12:23.47 | unborn | DocMAX, did you check all services what are running ? if you did you will find out - there is no issues |
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| 12:23.54 | DocMAX | i'm on testing... shouldn't this feature be there now? |
| 12:24.06 | unborn | DocMAX, you still running deb 7? |
| 12:24.07 | cdb23ax | i upgraded to nginx-1.7.4 but i still cant stream to other rtmp server i tried hitbox and twitch |
| 12:24.10 | DocMAX | what services? |
| 12:24.20 | DocMAX | on debian-vm? |
| 12:24.23 | teraflop | DocMAX: some apps do swap no matter if you have free memory or not |
| 12:24.42 | unborn | DocMAX, vm not vm.. :) are you still run deb 7? |
| 12:24.46 | DocMAX | teraflop, i installed ubuntu server |
| 12:24.58 | teraflop | DocMAX: i like potatoes |
| 12:24.59 | DocMAX | and on ubuntu it works |
| 12:25.29 | DocMAX | no im on deb 9 |
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| 12:25.44 | unborn | teraflop, love potatoes too ;) |
| 12:25.53 | teraflop | DocMAX: so youre in the future ... |
| 12:25.57 | DocMAX | i love big titts |
| 12:26.08 | DocMAX | also tested with deb 8 |
| 12:26.09 | c0de1 | I'm on deb 10 |
| 12:26.12 | unborn | DocMAX, yeh.. you are trolling - fine.. enjoy |
| 12:26.28 | DocMAX | teraflop, started trolling |
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| 12:26.40 | teraflop | I bail on this one, good luck DocMAX |
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| 12:26.43 | c0de1 | (troll) |
| 12:26.44 | c0de1 | lol |
| 12:26.57 | zu22 | i tried upgrading to testing but now emacs doesn't work (nor does gpgv), it says: error while loading shared libraries: libbz2.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:27.07 | zu22 | any clue how i can fix this? |
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| 12:27.23 | c0de1 | zu22, try reinstalling libbz2 dev |
| 12:27.39 | jelly | zu22: which debian release are you using? |
| 12:27.41 | unborn | ...if youre on deb8 you already know apache and other server things was changed.. if you are on unkown deb 9 - dev version possibly.. I cannot help |
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| 12:28.01 | c0de1 | libbz2-dev |
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| 12:28.21 | jelly | zu22: pastebin the output of "ldd /usr/bin/emacs" please |
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| 12:28.50 | zu22 | jelly: i was using squeeze and upgraded to jessie |
| 12:28.53 | zu22 | jelly: ok |
| 12:29.00 | jelly | c0de1: there's no need for a -dev package in normal use. It's more likely that a normal library package has issues. |
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| 12:29.09 | jelly | zu22: did you skip wheezy? |
| 12:29.17 | scoofy | can i add a script to run before/after suspending in deb wheezy? |
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| 12:29.48 | c0de1 | jelly, ah yes |
| 12:29.54 | zu22 | jelly: ya i didn't think i needed it lol |
| 12:30.00 | zu22 | jelly: http://pastebin.com/tMjFkDFA |
| 12:30.49 | zu22 | jelly: is there anyway we can fix this or is my sytem hosed since i skipped wheezy? |
| 12:30.51 | jelly | zu22: skipping releases is not supported. you now have unresolved bugs all over the system that would have been fixed during squeeze->wheezy but not wheezy->jessie |
| 12:31.24 | zu22 | jelly: i see, what would be my best course of action at this point? |
| 12:31.45 | jelly | zu22: the simplest thing to do is backup data, reinstall and put data back |
| 12:31.53 | c0de1 | zu22, what jelly said |
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| 12:32.06 | zu22 | jelly: ok so i royally messed up my system it sounds like (this is VPS system btw) |
| 12:32.12 | zu22 | c0de1: ah ok |
| 12:32.13 | jelly | indeed! |
| 12:32.27 | c0de1 | zu22, if you just need emacs for now, i suppose you could compile from source |
| 12:32.28 | zu22 | i will check with my VPS and ask them to wipe the disk |
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| 12:32.44 | jelly | you don't seem to have multiarch-capable paths for the dynamic loader in place |
| 12:32.48 | zu22 | c0de1: oh ok well i better just install fresh |
| 12:32.52 | zu22 | jelly: oh ok |
| 12:32.58 | jelly | this would have been added in debian 7 |
| 12:33.03 | zu22 | ah |
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| 12:33.17 | zu22 | thanks everyone, i will learn my lesson from this screw up! |
| 12:33.20 | jelly | zu22: which version of libc-bin and libc6 packages is installed? |
| 12:33.44 | unborn | zu22, :) you welcome |
| 12:33.57 | zu22 | jelly: what command will tell me that info? |
| 12:34.05 | jelly | dpkg -l libc-bin libc6 |
| 12:34.05 | dpkg | ii libc-bin libc6 2.8-14.2 jelly's private gamp collection |
| 12:34.19 | zu22 | ii libc-bin 2.11.3-4 Embedded GNU C Library: Binaries |
| 12:34.19 | zu22 | ii libc6 2.11.3-4 Embedded GNU C Library: Shared libraries |
| 12:34.33 | jelly | that's... not jesse |
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| 12:34.38 | jelly | ,v libc6 |
| 12:34.39 | judd | Package: libc6 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-security-lts: 2.11.3-4+deb6u6; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u6; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.13-38+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u8; jessie: 2.19-18; stretch: 2.19-18; sid: 2.19-18; experimental: 2.21-0experimental0 |
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| 12:34.52 | zu22 | hmm |
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| 12:35.11 | jelly | zu22: I guess you should do a squeeze->wheezy for a start |
| 12:35.19 | jelly | dpkg, squeeze->wheezy |
| 12:35.20 | dpkg | Read chapter 4 ("Upgrades from Debian 6.0") of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that <wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. See also <squeeze->wheezy failures>. |
| 12:35.37 | jelly | dpkg, tell zu22 about wheezy release notes |
| 12:35.44 | jelly | read the release notes. |
| 12:35.50 | c0de1 | If there is not much to backup, it would probably be easier to just reinstall though? |
| 12:35.56 | zu22 | jelly: do you think that could work and i would not have to install from scratch new OS? |
| 12:35.56 | c0de1 | since this is a VM |
| 12:36.08 | jelly | zu22: hard to say |
| 12:36.15 | zu22 | c0de1: i have lots of apach2 stuff setup |
| 12:36.21 | zu22 | s/apach2/apache2 |
| 12:36.25 | c0de1 | can you tar up the configs? |
| 12:36.34 | zu22 | that's an idea |
| 12:36.36 | zu22 | yes i could |
| 12:36.38 | jelly | zu22: you do realize jessie has apache 2.4 which has rather incompatible config? |
| 12:36.48 | zu22 | jelly: ya |
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| 12:37.07 | zu22 | i will just request that a fresh VM instance be installed |
| 12:37.13 | zu22 | just to be safe |
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| 12:42.52 | rockfindmehere | if a process is waiting on cpu , what would strace system call show as. |
| 12:43.01 | rockfindmehere | and if it memory what would strace depict. |
| 12:43.36 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: nothing special |
| 12:44.38 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: waiting for cpu and waiting for memory is the same thing |
| 12:45.16 | rockfindmehere | valdyn, but will it show a call such as nmap and just hang. |
| 12:45.27 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: what? |
| 12:45.32 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: nmap is a program |
| 12:45.39 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: its not a call |
| 12:45.56 | rockfindmehere | sorry mmap |
| 12:46.33 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: any system call may take time to complete. A process does not need awareness of that delay. |
| 12:46.56 | rockfindmehere | sure but a hung process how to debug it, it just hangs |
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| 12:48.19 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: "hung" is not a valid process state |
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| 12:48.48 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: so it can mean anything. Read the process state, tell that. |
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| 12:50.10 | rockfindmehere | valdyn, i thought if a process is running that is about it. ps -aef|more << if it shows up its running. How do i check state . sorry newb |
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| 12:50.38 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: -aef does not show the state column |
| 12:50.49 | rockfindmehere | valdyn, ok googling |
| 12:51.10 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: "ps aux" does, the 8th column |
| 12:51.18 | centrx | rockfindmehere, 'ps aux' is the usual command people run |
| 12:51.40 | rockfindmehere | thanks , something like S |
| 12:51.43 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: im sure you have an actual problem to solve. You should ask about that. |
| 12:52.13 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: it makes no sense to teach you all about processes in here, see youtube lectures about unix design for that ;) |
| 12:52.16 | rockfindmehere | Process launches and eventually just sits there without doing any activity. |
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| 12:53.05 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: what process |
| 12:53.35 | rockfindmehere | A filemoving process. |
| 12:53.48 | valdyn | rockfindmehere: your vagueness is useless |
| 12:54.04 | valdyn | !ask |
| 12:54.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 12:54.09 | rockfindmehere | valdyn, let me get some stats , i think you helped me. Thank You |
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| 12:54.25 | hypn0 | which program? or command? |
| 12:54.37 | rockfindmehere | custom one |
| 12:54.40 | valdyn | I do wonder how i could have helped |
| 12:54.44 | valdyn | geez |
| 12:54.46 | rockfindmehere | not a linux specific process. |
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| 12:54.58 | valdyn | proprietary secretive "file moving process" |
| 12:55.19 | rockfindmehere | he he |
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| 12:55.34 | rockfindmehere | you did help me, now let me go and read some more. |
| 12:55.49 | rockfindmehere | info burial |
| 12:55.50 | hypn0 | sounds like rsync |
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| 13:07.46 | JyZyXEL | echo "0000:00:14.0" > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/xhci_hcd/unbind is there anything to do when a command like that freezes? |
| 13:08.01 | JyZyXEL | ctrl+c or ctrl+z does nothing |
| 13:09.28 | jelly | JyZyXEL: not really, hope the kernel returns |
| 13:10.06 | JyZyXEL | :D |
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| 13:10.38 | JyZyXEL | it doesn't look like its going to |
| 13:10.46 | zumba_addict | hey guys, is it possible to change the path without having to run "make" again? I forgot to include it during ./configure |
| 13:11.10 | zumba_addict | i mean, change the target/destination path |
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| 13:12.10 | zumba_addict | the reason is because make ran for like 1.5 hours |
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| 13:13.36 | UsernameNotTaken | How do I start a Perl script at boot (/etc/rc.local) from within a specific folder? |
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| 13:14.54 | UsernameNotTaken | I want to run "sudo perl script.pl -start " from within folder " cd /var/www/html/apps " .... Whats the line for /etc/rc.local ? O.o |
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| 13:15.25 | at0m|c | UsernameNotTaken: run a cd /var/www/html/apps at the beginning of the script? |
| 13:15.46 | at0m|c | and a cd - after if it needs to return |
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| 13:16.26 | UsernameNotTaken | at0m|c: good idea! :D but is there also another way, without changing script? |
| 13:16.41 | dob1 | hi, what can i use to monitor real time download/upload speed on a network interface? |
| 13:17.14 | blackpenguin | dob1: try jnettop and iptraf |
| 13:17.18 | at0m|c | UsernameNotTaken: i don't know about that |
| 13:17.42 | UsernameNotTaken | at0m|c: I tried " cd /var/www/html/apps && /usr/bin/perl script.pl -start " ... didnt worked |
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| 13:18.32 | DocMAX | debian is in big danger if this wont get fixed! |
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| 13:19.08 | DocMAX | somebody has to act NOW! |
| 13:19.36 | blackpenguin | UsernameNotTaken: chances are it worked, but due to the different environment rc.local runs in, your script behaves different? |
| 13:20.06 | dob1 | blackpenguin, thanks jnettop is ok |
| 13:20.19 | UsernameNotTaken | blackpenguin: the script should run in background. I checked with ps aux | grep ... and it didnt run |
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| 13:21.59 | UsernameNotTaken | at0m|c: so ... should i just place a " cd /var/www/html/apps " after #!/usr/bin/perl -w ? |
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| 13:23.21 | at0m|c | UsernameNotTaken: i'd try that, yes |
| 13:23.25 | UsernameNotTaken | at0m|c: the script ends with a } ... what and where should I put the last line? |
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| 13:24.34 | blackpenguin | UsernameNotTaken: that doesn't mean it didn't start, it might have canceled unexpectedly (and this might be caused by the different environment especially PATH) |
| 13:25.32 | blackflow | UsernameNotTaken: if that's on Jessie (and you said in #ubuntu that it was), take a look at writing a systemd unit file for your script |
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| 13:34.35 | dob1 | i would like to limit ssh bandwith traffic on the server, not using the -l parameter on the client, what can i use to do this? iptables? |
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| 13:37.27 | blackflow | dob1: traffic shaping with tc |
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| 13:37.54 | teraflop | !give dob1 google lartc |
| 13:37.55 | ilk | gives dob1 a microphone |
| 13:37.55 | dpkg | gives dob1 google lartc |
| 13:39.03 | teraflop | sorry ignore that |
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| 13:39.59 | dob1 | blackflow, seems too much to learn |
| 13:40.14 | blackflow | dob1: firewalls like Shorewall can abstract that into a few simple knobs and configs |
| 13:40.23 | dob1 | i just need it to download some files, but i can't use the -l on client |
| 13:41.26 | blackflow | dob1: this looks simple enough to start with https://wiki.debian.org/TrafficControl |
| 13:42.09 | dob1 | blackflow, i take a look, thanks |
| 13:42.13 | blackflow | basically you need a classful discipline, you distribute your root bandwidth (total on the NIC) to ssh and others |
| 13:43.04 | blackflow | and iirc you assign ssh to a class via iptables |
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| 13:43.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
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| 13:43.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got a Bus 001 Device 005: ID 046d:0a0c Logitech, Inc. Clear Chat Comfort USB Headset |
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| 13:44.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | and I see it in alsamixer but i got no sound coming out yet. |
| 13:44.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dont see any mutes or volume controls that are at 0 |
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| 13:44.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | its seeing it for sure, so i don't know what to do from here, |
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| 13:48.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | going to reboot brb |
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| 14:02.37 | FirePowi | Hello, I have troubles. My server have access to local area network, but not to world area netword. |
| 14:02.40 | FirePowi | -d+t |
| 14:03.03 | FirePowi | (It's a fresh install) |
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| 14:03.46 | Roland- | hey guys can you recomend me a very small computer that will run debian ? fanless, small |
| 14:04.06 | at0m|c | raspberry pi |
| 14:04.08 | FirePowi | Raspberry pi |
| 14:04.16 | Roland- | ah yes |
| 14:04.31 | Roland- | I guess x86_64 would be out of the question |
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| 14:04.37 | FirePowi | Yep. |
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| 14:04.52 | at0m|c | unless atom boards |
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| 14:05.06 | blackflow | FirePowi: a) pastebin your interface config and b) define "no access" - which part fails, dns or routing? |
| 14:05.12 | at0m|c | they pack more punch and do 15Watts instead of Pi's 6 |
| 14:05.23 | at0m|c | price x6 |
| 14:06.34 | FirePowi | a) https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2e4cdbc62a0fb97ca51f b) don't really know. |
| 14:06.40 | FirePowi | routing. |
| 14:06.58 | FirePowi | I tried with a direct IP. |
| 14:07.15 | blackflow | FirePowi: I'm assuming you don't have the gateway set up? I don't see it in the config. what's your netstat -rn about default route? |
| 14:07.29 | blackflow | 'netstat -rn' |
| 14:07.56 | FirePowi | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 14:08.12 | blackflow | FirePowi: no 0.0.0.0 destination? |
| 14:08.14 | FirePowi | no gateway set yp. |
| 14:08.23 | FirePowi | no 0.0.0.0 destination |
| 14:08.41 | blackflow | yeah you need to add it to the interfaces file and restart. seeing this is a LAN static ip, no dhcp? |
| 14:08.52 | blackflow | (restart the network) |
| 14:09.05 | FirePowi | (dislike my DHCPâ¦) |
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| 14:09.44 | FirePowi | Well, restarting networking. |
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| 14:12.35 | blackflow | FirePowi: got net? |
| 14:13.19 | FirePowi | Got route, no DNS xD |
| 14:13.28 | blackflow | FirePowi: well, fix /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:13.58 | blackflow | you probably need to add your router as 'nameserver 192.168.1.1' or wherever the router/gateway is, or if you "dislike" it, use eg. google's 8.8.8.8 |
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| 14:16.35 | blackflow | FirePowi: got dns? |
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| 14:17.31 | zu22 | was upgrading wheezy and noticed this error kept popping u[, anyone know how to fix this? debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Dialog |
| 14:17.31 | zu22 | debconf: (No usable dialog-like program is installed, so the dialog based frontend cannot be used. at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Dialog.pm line 76.) |
| 14:17.31 | zu22 | debconf: falling back to frontend: Readline |
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| 14:17.59 | mjt | just install some dialog program |
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| 14:18.13 | FirePowi | nop. |
| 14:18.13 | zu22 | mjt: can you suggest one? |
| 14:18.32 | FirePowi | Oh, well wait. |
| 14:18.39 | mjt | I have `dialog' installed |
| 14:19.05 | zu22 | i wonder why this important program was not installed, this was doing upgrade from a fresh 7.0 install |
| 14:19.13 | mjt | dpkg -s debconf | grep Suggests |
| 14:19.13 | dpkg | There is no record of a debconf | grep Suggests package |
| 14:19.18 | mjt | dpkg: shut up |
| 14:19.18 | dpkg | No, I won't, and you can't make me. :P |
| 14:20.14 | mjt | it is only suggested by debconf, not even recommends |
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| 14:21.12 | pipl | Hello I'm using wheezy and have a black screen with my i915 on every startup since installing. I'd like to hang on with wheezy. It works with nomodeset or i915.modeset=0 but it makes linux console renders font quite terribly. Any suggestions ? |
| 14:21.16 | poorrick | Anybody knows about getting headers from a kernel not supported by Debian? |
| 14:21.44 | mjt | lol |
| 14:22.00 | mjt | get them from the same place you've got the kernel itself? |
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| 14:22.31 | FirePowi | blackflow, resolv.conf is reseted each time I restart networking |
| 14:22.41 | mjt | poorrick: headers are kernel-build-dependent, so you need headers from the same BUILD of the kernel |
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| 14:23.37 | blackflow | FirePowi: you probably have resolvconf or something like that in effect? you could try force dns entries through the 'interfaces' file, 'dns-nameservers' directive |
| 14:24.12 | poorrick | mjt: Cool, but how do you get those? I've been getting responses about how the source is the headers, and I've seen the command make headers_install before, but I'm not sure how to proceed with that info. |
| 14:24.53 | mjt | what do you need headers for? |
| 14:25.18 | FirePowi | nop, blackflow |
| 14:25.34 | poorrick | mjt: building a broadcom driver for a kernel that increases compatibility with my very non-cooperative laptop. |
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| 14:25.59 | mjt | well, you need kernels from the same build, or you need the build itself |
| 14:26.13 | blackflow | FirePowi: just use dhcp :) |
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| 14:26.31 | pipl | it seems that when KMS driver changes the video mode from textmode to framebuffer mode, it doesn't restore the text content. |
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| 14:26.45 | mjt | it doesn't, why should it? |
| 14:27.05 | poorrick | mjt: By 'build' do you mean the deb file I compiled from source? |
| 14:27.29 | mjt | i mean the whole directory with all the object files etc which was used for build |
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| 14:28.15 | poorrick | mjt: As I expected. But how do I get what I need from that into /usr/src in a way that'll make the driver detect the headers? |
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| 14:28.31 | poorrick | mjt: Because I've put the whole directory there before |
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| 14:29.04 | mjt | poorrick: it is done using symlink in /lib/kernel/$version/{source,build} |
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| 14:29.23 | mjt | poorrick: that's where almost all module installers look at |
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| 14:30.34 | poorrick | mjt: So it's not about the file being in the right place, it's about the system link being correct. |
| 14:30.49 | mjt | there's no such thing as "right place" for a build directory |
| 14:31.25 | poorrick | mjt: Just that the link points to the right place |
| 14:31.28 | poorrick | ? |
| 14:34.10 | rockfindmehere | Ok getting somewhere , now I am doing the jstack and it shows what the jvm is doing. |
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| 14:38.16 | poorrick | mjt: I have to go, but thank you. This is the most informative any source has been for the last week of trying to figure this out |
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| 14:38.44 | mjt | maybe it's much more productive to use standard/supported way? :) But he quit. |
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| 14:39.54 | zu22 | heh |
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| 14:44.46 | FirePowi | well |
| 14:44.58 | FirePowi | It work blackflow. |
| 14:45.02 | FirePowi | (with dhcpâ¦) |
| 14:45.50 | blackflow | FirePowi: cool. and if you want static, find what is overwriting resolv.conf. If 'resolvconf' package is, then there's a comment about it in resolv.conf |
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| 14:47.43 | dcz | hello guys, i am trying to install genymotion on debian. i installed that then i m doing ./genymotion , it gives me error " ./genymotion: error while loading shared libraries: libQtWebKit.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory " |
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| 14:48.57 | themill | dcz: apt-file is your friend |
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| 14:49.13 | dcz | what ? |
| 14:49.21 | themill | dpkg: tell dcz about apt-file |
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| 14:51.36 | FirePowi | thanks blackflow |
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| 15:05.45 | zu22 | which package provides the command 'man'? i am surprised this package was not installed, i just did fresh install from debian wheezy and upgraded to jessie |
| 15:06.38 | swordsmanz | perfers -h to man |
| 15:07.03 | themill | zu22: you'd have to work pretty hard not to have man-db installed |
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| 15:08.10 | zu22 | themill: i just did fresh install and don't have package man-db |
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| 15:08.46 | repxl | hey all, can anyone pls help me ... i want to make my website public ... i'm on nginx page is running at every ip on port 80 i got problems opening port 80 |
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| 15:15.44 | ompaul | ,v man-db |
| 15:15.45 | judd | Package: man-db on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.5.7-8; wheezy: 2.6.2-1; jessie: 2.7.0.2-5; sid: 2.7.0.2-5; stretch: 2.7.0.2-5; experimental: 2.7.1-2 |
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| 15:17.16 | ompaul | themill: only pretty hard, it looks like you'd have to break your heart with specifics |
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| 15:19.01 | microsoftkilledm | hi all, I'm trying to install (desperately, few 20 times) debian 8 gnome on my computer (previously running on windows 8 but on another disk which isn't plugged) and everytimes it fails at grub installation. The disk and the usb key running well because of I have done it into another computer... Anyone would help me before I killed me ? |
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| 15:20.41 | microsoftkilledm | I have disable "fast boot" into bios but not resolve the issue.. |
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| 15:22.28 | jamesmcm | what error do you get? |
| 15:22.32 | jamesmcm | it might be UEFI related |
| 15:22.59 | microsoftkilledm | the installer asks me if I would force the EFI and I try the two solution but always the same error |
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| 15:24.24 | microsoftkilledm | I have unable to install GRUB in /dev/sdb, executing grub-install /dev/sdb failed. This is a fatal error. |
| 15:24.36 | microsoftkilledm | ./dev/sda is the usb key |
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| 15:30.51 | microsoftkilledm | in syslog I found: debug: /dev/sdb1 type not recognised: skipping (there is /dev/sdb1 ext4 /boot partition) |
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| 15:31.59 | microsoftkilledm | after another test: grub-install error disk lvmid..... not found. Running grub install force /dev/sdb failed. |
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| 15:44.30 | FirePowi | Hey, how to know users's privilege, please ? |
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| 15:44.45 | FirePowi | (and many things like⦠his home,⦠|
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| 15:49.07 | mjt | FirePowi: what do you mean "user privileges"? |
| 15:50.00 | FirePowi | Hehâ¦It mean nothing xD |
| 15:50.08 | FirePowi | sry |
| 15:51.23 | mjt | getent passwd $username -- does that count? |
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| 15:52.04 | FirePowi | Thanks |
| 15:52.13 | mjt | also id username |
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| 15:52.46 | FirePowi | Well, thanks. |
| 15:52.51 | mjt | ;) |
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| 15:52.58 | FirePowi | but⦠why is it not in my /etc/passwd ? |
| 15:53.10 | mjt | what it ? |
| 15:53.42 | FirePowi | my user. |
| 15:54.04 | CuteAlien | Hello. I just updated to Jessie and it's mostly working. Except all consoles when start show now this message: awk: cmd. line:1: //usr/local/pythonbrew/ {next} {print} awk: cmd. line:1: ^ syntax error. |
| 15:54.19 | CuteAlien | And I have no idea where it could be coming from. Anyone got an idea? |
| 15:54.41 | mjt | CuteAlien: sudo fgrep -r pythonbrew /etc |
| 15:54.53 | mjt | CuteAlien: this is not coming from debian |
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| 15:55.55 | CuteAlien | mjt, hm, only shows export line in /etc/profile.d/pythonbrew.sh - but that looks different. |
| 15:56.17 | CuteAlien | Must admit I don't even know what pythonbrew is. |
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| 15:57.33 | mjt | well, it should be coming from _somewhere_. If /etc comes out empty, try /lib and a few other things :) |
| 15:57.48 | mjt | I assume you're using systemd |
| 15:57.59 | CuteAlien | got me an idea - it set's there PYTHONBREW_ROOT - so maybe have to search for that |
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| 15:58.38 | mjt | FirePowi: I don't understand your question, if your user exists in the system (getent shows something) it should be in some other database listed for `passwd' in /etc/nsswitch.conf. Or if it doesn't exist at all, in this case it shouldn't be in there. |
| 15:58.54 | mjt | CuteAlien: and which value it is set? |
| 15:59.07 | CuteAlien | export PYTHONBREW_ROOT=/usr/local/pythonbrew |
| 15:59.07 | zykotick9 | CuteAlien: personally, i only have a bash_completion.sh in /etc/profile.d/... i'd consider moving that file, then testing if your issue goes away... ymmv |
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| 15:59.39 | mjt | CuteAlien: so try searching for PYTHONBREW :) |
| 16:00.03 | mjt | CuteAlien: but again, this is not coming from debian. Debian does not install anythig into /usr/local, at all. |
| 16:00.48 | CuteAlien | mjt, Don't know - I just know I didn't get the message before the jessie update. |
| 16:01.01 | mjt | don't know what? |
| 16:01.12 | CuteAlien | what debian installs where |
| 16:01.22 | mjt | no, now you know |
| 16:01.24 | CuteAlien | System is in use a few years already - so lots of installs. |
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| 16:03.18 | mjt | /usr/local/ is where you put your own files, so to say, debian does not install anuything in there. Usually these things comes when some software is installed manually to /usr/local, and is forgotten, but the software is buggy and an upgrade of some tool (such as awk) which becomes stricter in checking things triggers some errors. |
| 16:03.30 | CuteAlien | yeah, makes sense |
| 16:03.38 | mjt | and usually these are old forgotten bitrotten soft. |
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| 16:04.16 | CuteAlien | ok, will just delete it. Easiest solution :-) Ty! |
| 16:04.37 | mjt | it is called from somewhere in your /etc |
| 16:05.02 | CuteAlien | seems to be some software to switch python versions. Don't need that right now. |
| 16:05.35 | CuteAlien | I think needed that just a year ago when trying to get some renderer working. |
| 16:06.32 | l3archos | hi all. If I run "minidlna" on my linux server, and inside my video directory I have some videos which are 50fps. Can I instruct minidlna to stream these videos to my DLNA client but remux or transcode them first to 30fps ? or isn't that possible 'on-the-fly' ? |
| 16:07.15 | mjt | l3archos: I'd suggest to ask in minidnla-related channel or forum. But I don't think minidlna has any transcoding capabilities |
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| 16:08.11 | l3archos | mjt: is there any other DLNA server that is capable of transcoding? I'm interested basically in chaning the fps, because my DLNA client doesn't support 50 frames per second, and I have many videos with 50fps |
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| 16:08.40 | mjt | no idea :) Here minidlna works fine and all my clients are capable of playing all videos I have :) |
| 16:08.58 | mjt | I mostly use vlc as the client |
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| 16:09.34 | mjt | l3archos: please note I said "I don't THINK", this doesn't mean it's true :) |
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| 16:10.28 | mjt | l3archos: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/ReadyMedia |
| 16:11.02 | mjt | "To decrease system load, MiniDLNA does not transcode on the fly unsupported media files into supported by your player formats" |
| 16:11.29 | buu | "LXiMediaCenter is a UPnP server that always transcodes video, regardless of whether it is in a compatible format or not." |
| 16:11.44 | l3archos | ReadyMedia differs not much from minidlna as I read in the link you posted. I don't think it's capable of transcode the video on-the-fly from 50fps to 30fps before sending it to the DLNA client |
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| 16:12.09 | mjt | well, this is just a few hints google found for me. |
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| 16:21.13 | Lagerloff | hey all |
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| 16:22.00 | Lagerloff | i'm looking for a way to monitor firewall events in console |
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| 16:22.25 | Lagerloff | is there some sort of auto scrolling display application? |
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| 16:22.45 | mjt | auto-scrolling? |
| 16:23.03 | mjt | tail -f ? :) |
| 16:23.30 | Lagerloff | ? |
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| 16:24.07 | l3archos | buu: I'd like to try LXiMediaCenter as the description says, that it can transcode. Unfortunately I cannot find a Debian-based package. I am running Jessie. Will the Ubuntu *.deb work, too ? |
| 16:24.38 | l3archos | and do you know an alternative to LXiMediaCenter, that means: another DLNAserver which is capable of transcoding into pre-defined formats ? |
| 16:24.53 | buu | I just asked google dude |
| 16:25.11 | Lagerloff | @l3archos .deb works on debian too |
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| 16:28.56 | l3archos | anyone can tell me how I can put a counter on a loop? I have "for i in *.MTS; do echo "${i%.MTS}.mp4"; done;" but I want to the output filenames to be 1.mp4, 2.mp4, 3.mp4, 4.mp4, 5.mp4, ..., and so on . |
| 16:29.22 | somiaj | l3archos: don't listen to Lagerloff, installing a random .deb from ubuntu on debian could cause issues. |
| 16:29.53 | mjt | n=1; for i in *.MTS; do echo "$n.${i%.MTS}.mp4"; n=$(($n+1)); done |
| 16:29.54 | l3archos | somiaj: that's why I remember and that's why I asked :p thanks for clarifying that. I won't install Ubuntu packages on my Jessie system |
| 16:30.03 | l3archos | mjt: thank you! |
| 16:30.19 | mjt | some packages will work, but it is completely unsupported. |
| 16:30.31 | mjt | especially for more complex pkgs |
| 16:30.37 | somiaj | l3archos: just add a variable in the list counter=0; for i in *.MTS; do counter=counter+1; do echo ..." |
| 16:30.37 | l3archos | mjt: wouldn't it be better to write: "n=1; for i in *.MTS; do echo "$n.mp4"; n=$(($n+1)); done |
| 16:30.54 | mjt | l3archos: whatever |
| 16:31.42 | l3archos | somiaj: mjt: Ok, I remembered something like {seq 1 5} or 1..5 but I don't remember the syntax any more. I also don't know the ending number of the counter, because it depends on how many files are read in |
| 16:32.12 | mjt | you can't use seq here because your counter is driven by your files not seq |
| 16:32.47 | l3archos | somiaj: mjt: is there a better way than n=$(($n+1)) ? looks complicated to me :) |
| 16:33.00 | somiaj | l3archos: that is just saying, add one to the varaible. |
| 16:33.20 | somiaj | l3archos: I thought you could do counter=counter+1, but if that dones't work, seems you can do 'let counter=counter+1' |
| 16:33.35 | somiaj | l3archos: I forget the subtilities of bash and just look up the things I need. |
| 16:33.59 | l3archos | somiaj: "let c=c+1" works fine, thank you |
| 16:34.24 | l3archos | count=`expr $count + 1` would do the job, too... but I like your example better, because it's more simple |
| 16:34.34 | mjt | $((..)) is a math expression |
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| 16:34.50 | mjt | it is standard for quite some time, all shells implement it |
| 16:35.03 | mjt | btw, you can omit $ inside $((..)) |
| 16:35.46 | l3archos | is "let" a shell command ? how can I find a manual to read what exactly it does. Didn't heard of that command before |
| 16:35.55 | mjt | help let |
| 16:37.58 | l3archos | oh ok, thank you |
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| 16:40.07 | l3archos | anyone knows if there's a Debian package for "LXiMediaServer" which runs on Debian Jessie? Or any alternative DLNA server capable of transcoding ? |
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| 16:45.42 | zu22 | anyone here know apache2? |
| 16:45.58 | SirLagz | zu22: a little. #apache might be a better place to ask |
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| 16:46.10 | SirLagz | zu22: #httpd rather |
| 16:46.20 | zu22 | ah ok |
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| 16:48.14 | jhutchins | I can't seem to get nm-openconnect working on jessie/xfce. |
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| 16:48.46 | l3archos | when I run "for i in *.avi" in which order does the loop read the *.avi files ? Is "ls" command used for reading the files? How can I modify the order, for example if I want to sort by atime, mtime or ctime ? or even by EXIF date (=video recording time) |
| 16:48.51 | stacks88 | why isnt debian used in the enterprise world instead of things like RHEL and centos? someone told me "things on Debian are either outdated or unstable, theres no middle ground".. but is that really true? |
| 16:49.12 | jhutchins | I can create a connection, but it won't connect, and I can't check the "All users may connect..." box it doesn't stay checked. |
| 16:49.26 | jhutchins | Seems like perhaps I don't have rights to manage the network. |
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| 16:49.35 | jhutchins | grep net /etc/group |
| 16:49.40 | buu | l3archos: it uses the glob order which is typically alphabetical |
| 16:49.52 | buu | l3archos: and glob is a part of bash, not ls |
| 16:50.27 | mjt | stacks88: thinkgs on rhel are significantly more outdated :) |
| 16:50.44 | buu | l3archos: If your files have no whitespace in them you could try: for i in $(ls -c); ... |
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| 16:51.36 | scoofy | l3archos: you could write a simple script yourself that generates th efile list |
| 16:51.46 | scoofy | based on the criteria you prefer |
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| 16:52.00 | buu | Step 1) use perl |
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| 16:53.04 | jhutchins | If I try to import a configuration it doesn't create the connection. I've added myself to the systemd-network group, but that didn't help. |
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| 16:54.35 | megamans1c | Hey.. Any ideas why http://hitachi/ points to localhost? |
| 16:54.42 | l3archos | stacks88: who did tell you that Debian is not used in Enterprise ? |
| 16:54.54 | scoofy | megamans1c: try cat /etc/hosts |
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| 16:55.07 | l3archos | RHEL is for the people that need assistance and support, nothing more ;) |
| 16:55.09 | megamans1c | scoofy: It's not in there |
| 16:55.19 | l3archos | to get paid |
| 16:55.29 | stacks88 | its not that someone told me that, its just that i keep hearing from many people that RHEL/CentOS is what is used in the "enterprise world".. and i assumed it must be popular in the enterprise world as im workign with a few different software/things that they require me to run centos |
| 16:55.37 | scoofy | some time ago i heard about 30% of servers use debian |
| 16:55.40 | l3archos | stacks88: that's bullshit |
| 16:55.47 | megamans1c | "hitachi has address 127.0.53.53" |
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| 16:56.06 | l3archos | stacks88: if you want to go with RHEL, go for it, if want centos, go for it ... it's up to you ;) |
| 16:56.07 | mjt | there's one more reason ppl prefer rhel or sles. it is certification and support from vendors. |
| 16:56.17 | scoofy | megamans1c: hm. true. here too. |
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| 16:56.23 | scoofy | how did you find that? |
| 16:56.43 | megamans1c | I meant to Google it, and Firefox came up with "Did you mean hitachi?" referring to the hostname |
| 16:56.53 | scoofy | weird. |
| 16:56.55 | mjt | eg, ibm servers are only certified on rhel/sles/unbreakable, and you wont get support from ibm at all if you run debian. |
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| 16:57.46 | stacks88 | ah ok |
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| 17:00.23 | megamans1c | Oh |
| 17:00.32 | megamans1c | it's a TLD lol |
| 17:00.45 | megamans1c | http://stats.research.icann.org/dns/wildcard/ |
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| 17:01.49 | scoofy | megamans1c: eh? without .ext? |
| 17:02.09 | scoofy | 'accountant' also resolves to 127.0.53.53.... |
| 17:02.27 | scoofy | just as 'ads' 'auto' 'autos' and all the other stuff in that list..... |
| 17:02.43 | megamans1c | I think just '.ext' is a valid homename |
| 17:02.54 | megamans1c | well, just 'ext' |
| 17:03.00 | scoofy | try 'ping lol' |
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| 17:03.31 | megamans1c | Yeah |
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| 17:05.33 | megamans1c | Ok yeah, it's just a wildcard TLD |
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| 17:05.54 | maziar | what we call a web site, that play video online ? |
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| 17:06.12 | megamans1c | stream |
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| 17:06.21 | scoofy | dafuq is 'wildcard TLD' |
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| 17:09.47 | maziar | what we call a web site, that play video online ? (like youtube ) |
| 17:10.00 | buu | I typically call it a website |
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| 17:10.38 | maziar | buu , is it vod ? or vido streaming ? or what? |
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| 17:10.44 | scoofy | video streaming website |
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| 17:12.51 | maziar | scoofy tanqu |
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| 17:21.41 | dnsk_ | Can anyone share your sources.list for Jessie? |
| 17:21.46 | dnsk_ | I think I have something extra |
| 17:21.53 | dnsk_ | aptitude update takes a lot of time |
| 17:22.01 | dnsk_ | where as I just have the Main repo |
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| 17:22.56 | dvs | !jessie sources.list |
| 17:22.56 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 17:27.19 | sadtaco | How do I empty out a log file in /var/log ? I get permission denied. |
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| 17:27.57 | buu | try sudo |
| 17:28.09 | SirLagz | sadtaco: stop whatever it is that is writing to the logfile, then run sudo rm /var/log/whatever, then restart whatever was writing to the log file |
| 17:28.46 | sadtaco | ah |
| 17:28.50 | buu | I prefer echo > /logfile |
| 17:28.58 | sadtaco | permission denied on that ,buu |
| 17:29.06 | buu | MOAR SUDO |
| 17:29.12 | sadtaco | with sudo yes |
| 17:29.23 | buu | sudo bash -c 'echo > /logfile' |
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| 17:32.24 | sadtaco | oh thanks |
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| 17:42.01 | andril | any help on installing oracle java? |
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| 17:43.14 | polyphagia | andril: why not openjdk? |
| 17:43.30 | mjt | they provide std install procedure,whats' wrong with it? |
| 17:45.27 | TheSoph | I've had software that was very specific about wanting Oracles version and not OpenJDK though, so that might be the case for him as well |
| 17:45.28 | jelly | andril: grab the tar from oracle, use make-jpkg utility from java-package package to convert it to a .deb, install |
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| 17:46.20 | jelly | possibly add Depends: java5-runtime-headless to the somewhat incomplete control file of the generated .deb |
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| 17:49.42 | andril | polyphagia, Minecraft :) |
| 17:50.03 | polyphagia | the client andril ? |
| 17:50.16 | andril | jelly, i a very noob at thsi but i can copy and paste liek a pro |
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| 17:50.49 | andril | jelly, just downloaded jdk-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz |
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| 17:51.08 | andril | jes |
| 17:51.16 | jelly | !make-jpkg |
| 17:51.16 | dpkg | java-package (formerly mpkg-j2se, j2se-package) provides the make-jpkg utility for creating Debian packages from manually downloaded <Java> distributions; Oracle Java 6 (update >= 10) and Oracle Java 7 are currently supported. java-package is available for Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems in <contrib>. http://wiki.debian.org/JavaPackage . Where possible, use <OpenJDK> instead, ask me about <install java>. |
| 17:51.28 | dnsk_ | dvs, thanks |
| 17:51.31 | jelly | (works for 8 as well) |
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| 17:55.31 | sharp15 | anyone familiar with uvc webcams on debian-8.0? the camera is not showing on lsusb/lspci. |
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| 17:55.56 | mjt | lsusb should show it or else it's not connected |
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| 17:56.38 | beepie | here got an odd problem, not sure why 2:4.1.18+dfsg-3~inverse1 is referenced, doesn't show up with apt-cache policy ( http://pastebin.com/7bYnsWxA ) |
| 17:56.51 | sharp15 | its factory installed in a laptop. hard for it to be disconnected. |
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| 17:57.15 | sharp15 | the device has been sitting on a shelf so i doubt it has been knocked loose. |
| 17:57.45 | dvs | dnsk_: no prob? |
| 17:58.37 | mjt | beepie: apt-cache policy samba-common |
| 17:58.59 | andril | jelly, command make-jpkg jdk-8u45-linux-x64.tar.gz not working :( |
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| 17:59.06 | beepie | oh yes haha |
| 17:59.12 | andril | did i forget to install something? |
| 17:59.13 | beepie | oops |
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| 18:01.27 | sharp15 | mjt: ok. thanks. |
| 18:01.50 | mjt | sharp15: lsusb shows _physical_ devices found on usb bus, no matter if kernel has driver for it or not. If it is not on the bus, well, it is not debian issue ;) |
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| 18:02.22 | sharp15 | mjt: ok. i was trying to figure out if i missed something when i installed. |
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| 18:05.54 | mjt | sharp15: just one note: some usb devices need to be "poked at" in order to be what they are. Eg, some initially present as a usb mass storage device (with a driver), and after some sequence of commands switch to be different device. So check whenever you recognize all devices lsusb shows, maybe one of them is your cam hidden behind some other device. |
| 18:06.06 | mjt | sharp15: usb_modeswitch is the keyword |
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| 18:08.03 | sharp15 | mjt: usb_modeswitch is the keyword where? google or lsusb? |
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| 18:12.57 | jelly | andril: install the package called "java-package" |
| 18:13.04 | sendz | I want to dual boot debian with fedora, can I share my debian /boot partition to fedora? |
| 18:13.25 | dvs | no |
| 18:13.50 | mjt | actually it's possible to share |
| 18:13.58 | mjt | but might be non-trivial |
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| 18:16.17 | sendz | i see |
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| 18:17.17 | andril | jelly, check |
| 18:17.23 | sendz | I share my home partition from kubuntu to debian, I though share boot will as easy as share home |
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| 18:20.48 | sharp15 | thanks. i'll be back have to reboot. |
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| 18:26.22 | sharp15 | well. debian problem fixed. disabling the device in the bios causes detection problems. sorry about not seeing that one first. |
| 18:28.53 | andril | jelly, Ok i got it installed |
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| 18:32.06 | nmschulte | I'm having trouble getting Debian to boot from my SATA SSD (Samsung 850 EVO) via UEFI. My old HDD/install works fine, but the SSD falls back to the boot device menu when I choose the "debian" UEFI option. |
| 18:32.26 | nmschulte | I've used rescue mode on the installer to re-install grub numerous times. |
| 18:32.48 | nmschulte | I have a EFI partition, a /boot partition, and a / partition. |
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| 18:34.30 | nmschulte | My EFI partition is fat32, and my /boot partition is ext4. |
| 18:35.05 | andril | jelly, it's cooking thanks :) |
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| 18:54.44 | amflir | I have jessie installed but I want to install some packages from sid, when I add sid to sources.list it wants to upgrade all packages. how can I just install some packages with -t ? |
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| 18:55.57 | centrx | amflir, just use apt-get install packagename to install the package(s) you want |
| 18:55.58 | amflir | !pinning |
| 18:55.59 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 18:56.07 | centrx | amflir, Then make sure to remove the sources.list |
| 18:56.11 | centrx | amflir, Or yes, use pinning |
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| 18:57.35 | jelly | amflir: mind you, pinning is not a safe way to get newer packages. |
| 18:58.00 | jelly | !ssb |
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| 18:58.01 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 18:58.07 | jelly | !jessie-backports |
| 18:58.07 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the Debian 9 "Stretch" release but recompiled for use with "Wheezy" (8.x) can be found in the "jessie-backports" repository. Note that jessie-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
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| 18:59.29 | mc680x0 | hihihi! ok, so I have a bit of an odd question. Can any of you think of a way to tell APT to grab every package on the system that has an associated -devel package, and either (list the devel packages resulting from that search) or (install the devel packages listed)? |
| 18:59.55 | mc680x0 | i'm using jessie/i486, not that i suspect it matters terribly much. |
| 19:00.38 | buu | mc680x0: You could come close with a script but I don't believe there's a specific relationship between package name and -dev package; what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 19:00.43 | buu | Perhaps you want apt-get build |
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| 19:01.34 | mc680x0 | buu: i'm trying to get the headers for /every damn library/ on the system so i can compile stuff against it, basically |
| 19:02.05 | mc680x0 | gentoo spoiled me in that respect. |
| 19:02.39 | buu | uh |
| 19:02.43 | buu | Compile what stuff? |
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| 19:03.27 | buu | If you want to constantly compile stuff may I suggest using gentoo |
| 19:03.31 | mc680x0 | well the first thing i'd like to compile is SXEmacs, which can compile against ... hrm, let's see. bdwgc, ffmpeg, libffi, a bunch of X11 stuff... |
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| 19:04.22 | mc680x0 | buu: I have gentoo on another machine. I'm only intending to compile stuff which doesn't have a .deb... like, say, SheepShaver or SXEmacs |
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| 19:05.29 | buu | mc680x0: dpkg -l will give you a list of installed packages. dev packages usually end in -dev |
| 19:05.36 | jonny_ | when moving from wheezy to jessie, did we get new binutils? anything that would prevent a symbol in a object file or lib that hung around from wheezy from being seen? |
| 19:05.37 | amflir | I have sid (stretch) on my desktop and also I have set experimental in sources.list and it doesn't want to upgrade to experimental and installs from sid by default. but on my server when I have jessie installed and add sid to sources.list it wants to upgrade to sid. but I only want one package from sid. the package is not backported and pinning does not work (perhaps I set it up bad?) |
| 19:05.52 | amflir | and the question is why it is ok on my desktop but not on my server? |
| 19:06.07 | mc680x0 | buu: gotta roll it myself then, gotcha. thanks :) |
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| 19:11.31 | jelly | mc680x0: or you could "apt-get build-dep emacs" and hope that is enough |
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| 19:16.36 | andril | hey jelly are these debs system specific ? |
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| 19:16.55 | andril | or can i use them on my other Jessie installs |
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| 19:18.50 | random | hi everybody, i'm having trouble with HTML5 videos on youtube. H264 codecs are not supported. after searching the web, i found some solutions, but i don't know exactly what is the better thing to do. what do you guys think? |
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| 19:20.04 | jelly | anddam: you can use them on any jessie (or even squeeze, wheezy) install with amd64 arch |
| 19:20.20 | jelly | andrargh |
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| 19:24.32 | random | (hum i didn't mention i'm using iceweasel) |
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| 19:27.17 | cyph3x | test |
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| 19:28.40 | cyph3x | nice, alright because I assume HTML 5 works at the application layer an all encompassing browser would be your best solution. I would suggest using Chrome. actually if you google "HtmL 5 chrome linux" there are a few articles that go into detail |
| 19:29.15 | random | hum i saw that solution too, but i'm not a big fan of chrome/chromium |
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| 19:29.43 | cyph3x | then the next best bet would be to download packages that add compatibility to your given browser |
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| 19:29.54 | random | the solutions i found were about installing packages, but every source gives different packages... some website even propose to compile my own iceweasel version (or classic firefox) |
| 19:29.58 | cyph3x | what they are, i have no clue as I primarily use firefox/chrome |
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| 19:30.45 | random | one solution was to install "gstreamer0.10-plugins-good", is it harmless? |
| 19:30.52 | greenit | hi, is it possible to use rsync nearly the same way as dd to create a bootable usb stick? i normally use "dd if=some.iso of=/dev/sdb", but i'd like to have a status-bar and afaik dd doesn't have one, but rsync does |
| 19:30.54 | cyph3x | i believe iceweasel is built on most of the firefox APIs, but thats the cost of doing business with a less popular browser with a rebranded name T_T |
| 19:31.55 | random | greenit: rsync and dd do not work the same way, rsync copies files where dd copies raw bits |
| 19:31.59 | random | (as far as I know) |
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| 19:32.29 | blackflow | So journald is now the de-facto logger in Jessie, right? So if I don't care about rsyslog, I can safely uninstall it and use only journald? |
| 19:32.36 | niek__ | hello! i have a question. |
| 19:32.48 | random | !question niek__ |
| 19:32.49 | dpkg | niek__: Do you have a Debian-related question that we can help you with? If you do, please ask it and someone will try to help; if you do not, then please be quiet. |
| 19:33.00 | random | hum i didn't think that was that mean but x) |
| 19:33.04 | mjt | blackflow: journald sends its data to rsyslog ;) |
| 19:33.12 | blackflow | mjt: I know, that's why I'm asking. |
| 19:33.20 | niek__ | Why are distroâs including debian getting worse at the locale stuff? |
| 19:33.25 | mjt | so the logger is rsyslogd |
| 19:33.43 | niek__ | if i install it standard i have to fix the en us utf8 stuff by hand |
| 19:33.43 | blackflow | mjt: it's pretty.... unusual feeling to drop rsyslog after so many years, but I actually like what journald does and that's enough for me. |
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| 19:33.47 | niek__ | that was never the case |
| 19:34.04 | niek__ | i donât call that progress |
| 19:34.22 | niek__ | might be a good reason for it |
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| 19:34.39 | niek__ | ? |
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| 19:35.22 | random | i'd like to answer you but i'm afraid i have no opinion on the subject |
| 19:35.40 | random | what distros are you talking about? |
| 19:36.32 | niek__ | i just installed debian 8 for the first time.. that has it |
| 19:36.58 | niek__ | adding stuff to my .bashrc manually! whatâs that |
| 19:37.38 | mjt | lol |
| 19:37.40 | random | well in debian it's pretty normal to get into configurations i guess, however, even if i'm not a native english speaker, my debian is in english, so I didn't notice |
| 19:37.43 | blackflow | niek__: did you dpkg-reconfigure locales and enable locales you want? set default? |
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| 19:41.12 | mjt | btw, system-default language isn't configured in .bashrc |
| 19:41.31 | mjt | and adding stuff to .bashrc _is_ done manually, only manually |
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| 19:51.54 | jelly | niek__: what's broken on the default installation that you need to fix? |
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| 19:54.12 | random | ok, for those who are interested, i managed to get H.264 supported in iceweasel by installing gstreamer1.0-libav |
| 19:56.02 | cyph3x | yeah? how is it working with youtube/netflix? |
| 19:56.49 | random | i'm not using netflix, and i'm not sure i understand your question about youtube ; all I can say is that the H.264 tab is now ticked in youtube.com/html5 |
| 19:56.52 | cyph3x | i know netflix has some weird streaming DRM restrictions, is it even possible to steam NF with an open h.264? |
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| 19:57.04 | cyph3x | good man! |
| 19:57.09 | random | ? |
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| 19:58.05 | niek__ | jelly: when i started perl it gave me: warning: Setting locale failed. |
| 19:58.14 | niek__ | a bunch of other programs did it too |
| 19:58.38 | blackflow | niek__: did you dpkg-reconfigure locales and enable locales you want? set default? |
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| 19:58.50 | niek__ | blackflow: yep, not enough |
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| 19:59.04 | jhutchins | systemd is definitely slower on my system. |
| 19:59.07 | jhutchins | Also does the lovely windows feature of displaying an interface before it will accept input. |
| 19:59.10 | jhutchins | pauses pretty long at the console before x starts, and it's a long time between x startup and actual usability. |
| 19:59.14 | niek__ | i had to add stuff to .bashrc |
| 19:59.18 | blackflow | niek__: I had issues in python, setting locales that weren't set, so I had to enable them to make them available |
| 19:59.28 | blackflow | setting that weren't configured |
| 19:59.29 | niek__ | export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 |
| 19:59.29 | jelly | niek__: what kind of stuff? |
| 19:59.55 | niek__ | and LANG and LANGUAGE |
| 20:00.12 | jelly | niek__: that's a nasty override. How are you logging in to this machine? |
| 20:00.12 | niek__ | blackflow: yeah, i donât remember having issues like that ever with linux |
| 20:00.31 | niek__ | jelly: ok, what is the correct way then? |
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| 20:00.46 | niek__ | dpkg-reconfigure locales and select en_US.UTF-8 didnât help at all |
| 20:00.59 | niek__ | and yes, i logged in again after running that :) |
| 20:01.20 | jhutchins | niek__: Did you mention what release you're on? |
| 20:01.23 | niek__ | 8 |
| 20:01.30 | niek__ | but centos 6 also has it |
| 20:01.51 | niek__ | so iâm wondering why this a problem all of the sudden |
| 20:01.54 | niek__ | a* |
| 20:01.55 | jhutchins | netj: Has what? |
| 20:02.04 | jelly | niek__: what do you use to log in to this machine, and which OS are you logging in from? |
| 20:02.09 | niek__ | mac |
| 20:02.10 | niek__ | ssh |
| 20:02.14 | jelly | ah. |
| 20:02.35 | jhutchins | I believe ssh has an option to set local env vars. |
| 20:02.43 | blackflow | it does |
| 20:02.45 | niek__ | interesting, itâs a yosimite issue :) |
| 20:02.50 | niek__ | ? |
| 20:02.56 | jelly | niek__: Mac locales and glibc locales have incompatible names, and ssh daemon defaults to accepting remote locale settings (env. vars) |
| 20:03.26 | niek__ | jelly: great, i apologize for blaiming linux :D |
| 20:03.40 | random | well x) |
| 20:03.46 | random | that was pretty interesting |
| 20:03.47 | jelly | dunno whether glibc is to blame, or openssh |
| 20:03.55 | jelly | or the distros. |
| 20:04.13 | niek__ | might be a good idea to make the fix in Linux |
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| 20:04.32 | niek__ | because os x is declining, i donât think the poeple behind that are thinking anymore |
| 20:04.52 | jelly | niek__: you can either reconfigure ssh daemon, or set up locale aliases so that Mac env.var values work |
| 20:05.19 | niek__ | some fix (workaround?) for people using macs to login to linux |
| 20:05.40 | niek__ | jelly: any tips on the ssh daemon way? |
| 20:05.43 | jelly | niek__: what does "locale -a" say on mac before you run ssh? |
| 20:05.47 | jelly | !paste |
| 20:05.47 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 20:06.20 | jelly | niek__: er, sorry, just "locale" not -a |
| 20:06.37 | niek__ | aha, maybe this is the problem? LC_CTYPE="UTF-8" |
| 20:06.51 | jelly | show the whole output pleas.e |
| 20:07.29 | niek__ | LANG= LC_COLLATE="C" LC_CTYPE="UTF-8" LC_MESSAGES="C" LC_MONETARY="C" LC_NUMERIC="C" LC_TIME="C" LC_ALL= |
| 20:07.42 | jelly | but yes that's certainly part of the problem. glibc doesn't know about "UTF-8", however "C.UTF-8" it would know about |
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| 20:08.12 | mjt | LC_CTYPE=UTF-8 is okay |
| 20:08.15 | jelly | niek__: do you use the command line ssh to log in to remote linux systems? |
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| 20:08.28 | niek__ | jelly: ofcourse :) |
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| 20:08.42 | niek__ | LANG is empty |
| 20:08.45 | jelly | mjt: nope |
| 20:09.06 | niek__ | LC_ALL is too |
| 20:09.23 | mjt | jelly: lc_ctype is just the last part of foo_BAR.BAZ |
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| 20:09.53 | jelly | niek__: you can do "LC_CTYPE=C.UTF-8 ssh ..." on the mac machine and override that env.var for just the ssh command |
| 20:10.01 | niek__ | http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/158673/how-to-get-utf-8-locale-when-connecting-via-ssh-to-macosx-from-putty-windows |
| 20:10.15 | niek__ | it seems since lion this is a problem |
| 20:10.31 | niek__ | itâs probably because i always updated and never reinstalled it never happened to me |
| 20:10.37 | niek__ | i did reinstall now |
| 20:10.50 | jelly | mjt: I don't understand what you said last, but "UTF-8" is not a valid locale definition for glibc |
| 20:11.09 | jelly | valid locale name* |
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| 20:11.22 | niek__ | this is what i mean with the people at apple are not thinking anymore |
| 20:11.44 | niek__ | the just create 50GB apps and throw them in my face all the time even if i donât want it |
| 20:11.49 | jelly | niek__: noone says locale names have to be compatible between OS-es |
| 20:12.19 | niek__ | agree, but as i said i never was a problem and now theyâre creating one |
| 20:12.37 | mc680x0 | aren't locale names covered by the Single Unix Specification? |
| 20:13.05 | niek__ | the link tells me to add the settings to the .profile on my mac... |
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| 20:13.24 | jelly | no, they're not creating one. They've probably just imported default openssh client settings from upstream and _those_ probably say "SendEnv LANG LC_*" |
| 20:13.48 | jelly | at least that's what they say on Debian in /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
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| 20:15.08 | niek__ | and that was not correct, adding it to my ~/.bash_profile worked fine though |
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| 20:18.45 | niek__ | iâm thinking of switching back to linux for my main desktop system |
| 20:18.55 | jelly | mc680x0: are they? a 10 second grep of susv3 does not suggest so |
| 20:19.41 | niek__ | can anyone share his (or her) experience with the power management stuff these days? |
| 20:19.53 | niek__ | that was one of the main reasons to go to mac for me |
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| 20:20.15 | niek__ | just put it to sleep, and get it back with pushing the space bar, works flawlessly |
| 20:20.41 | mc680x0 | jelly: ah, no, i was hoping they were because OS X likes to brag that it's a UNIX |
| 20:20.53 | mc680x0 | when in reality it's more of a mishmash |
| 20:21.00 | jelly | hah |
| 20:21.08 | unborn | niek__, what you on about? |
| 20:21.25 | ompaul | the FreeBSD legacy in os/x I'll guess |
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| 20:21.32 | T0ast_phone | Hey |
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| 20:21.44 | niek__ | mc680x0: well, theyâre getting worse all over the place: if you have a subdomain like bla.bla.domain.com and you add domain.com to the search domain and you do ping bla.bla, it wonât work |
| 20:21.48 | AshleyNX | Afternoon Debian |
| 20:21.52 | niek__ | why: because bla.bla is a fqdn |
| 20:21.54 | niek__ | sure |
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| 20:22.01 | T0ast_phone | Why won't my newly installed debian netinstall recognise my ethernet connection? |
| 20:22.03 | blackflow | ompaul: osx has hardly anything to do with FreeBSD :) |
| 20:22.13 | niek__ | unborn: what do you mean? |
| 20:22.15 | blackflow | except that most of the FreeBSD devs use macs, lol |
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| 20:22.22 | wh0isthis | hi |
| 20:22.22 | mc680x0 | ompaul: what FreeBSD legacy |
| 20:22.23 | ompaul | blackflow: jordan hubbard might disagree ;-) and there I'll leave it |
| 20:22.34 | mc680x0 | sure they pulled a few tools from freebsd userland, but it's all sitting atop Mach |
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| 20:22.36 | T0ast_phone | Please help |
| 20:22.52 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: what network card have you got? |
| 20:22.55 | mc680x0 | and they're slowly rewriting the userland to be very very unsensible |
| 20:22.55 | blackflow | ompaul: I think you're confused by the fact taht both FreeBSD and osx have _common_ BSD ancestor and that's all |
| 20:22.57 | jelly | mc680x0, blackflow, ompaul: interop talk is fine. bashing osx is not, do it someplace else. |
| 20:23.23 | T0ast_phone | ompaul: I'm using an ethernet cable |
| 20:23.24 | mc680x0 | T0ast_phone: is it possible that your ethernet card requires some firmware package? |
| 20:23.31 | blackflow | jelly: pray tell how am I bashing osx? |
| 20:23.32 | jelly | (like #debian-offtopic) |
| 20:23.34 | mc680x0 | I ran into that with my Tigon |
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| 20:23.38 | T0ast_phone | I don't think so |
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| 20:24.11 | T0ast_phone | I did ip link and it says "mtu 1500" |
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| 20:24.14 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: type /sbin/ifconfig -a in a terminal and see what |
| 20:24.53 | niek__ | does anyone use tlp?? |
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| 20:25.22 | T0ast_phone | ompaul: I did it |
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| 20:25.30 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: and on the left hand side what did you see |
| 20:25.40 | T0ast_phone | lo |
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| 20:26.27 | T0ast_phone | ompaul: it says lo |
| 20:26.42 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: type lscpi and do you see a line that says Ethernet controller |
| 20:26.49 | jhutchins | I have not yet figured out how to restart networking on a system that was upgraded from squeeze to jessie/systemd. systemctl restart network does nothing, service networking restart the same |
| 20:27.02 | T0ast_phone | Oh ok |
| 20:27.04 | ompaul | jhutchins: service networking restart |
| 20:27.22 | ompaul | jhutchins: or I'm completely wrong (in which case I want to know ;-)) |
| 20:27.26 | jhutchins | I can ifdown/ifup the interface I needed to and it flushes my routing table and resets resolv.conf |
| 20:27.27 | T0ast_phone | ompaul: realtek semiconductor? |
| 20:27.56 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: that should work out of the box - how did you install? |
| 20:27.58 | jhutchins | ompaul: See end of line - appears to do nothing, routing table & resolv.conf remain untouched. |
| 20:28.01 | jelly | "service networking restart" hasn't been reliable for a decade |
| 20:28.18 | T0ast_phone | ompaul: netinstall |
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| 20:28.48 | jhutchins | jelly: I did actually see that fail on a RH system. There were some unusual interfaces that didn't cycle. |
| 20:28.52 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: you were wired to the internet when you were doing the install |
| 20:29.04 | jelly | jhutchins: I'm talking about Debian. |
| 20:29.11 | jhutchins | jelly: I wish I rememered what it didn't do. |
| 20:29.15 | T0ast_phone | ompaul: nope |
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| 20:29.30 | jhutchins | jelly: Yeah, it's the same problem. It's the way it locates all interfaces. |
| 20:29.34 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: I guess you haven't really installed then - this time with a wire in place :) |
| 20:29.43 | T0ast_phone | Ok I'll just install again |
| 20:29.50 | T0ast_phone | Thanks ompaul ^_^ |
| 20:29.51 | jhutchins | jelly: any idea what the right way is for jessie? |
| 20:29.52 | ompaul | T0ast_phone: with a wire |
| 20:30.07 | jelly | jhutchins: can't be the same problem, these distros use completely different scripts and setups |
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| 20:30.45 | jhutchins | jelly: Actually, I confirmed it at the time. |
| 20:31.07 | jelly | jhutchins: no, but ifdown/ifup has been the only sane way on Debian for quite a while |
| 20:31.15 | jhutchins | jelly: That's the reason though, the "restart" portion of the init script doesn't catch all devices. |
| 20:31.40 | jelly | jhutchins: might have been the same symptom, but the backend is completely different |
| 20:31.43 | jhutchins | jelly: You can't up/down the who network service though, just by interface. |
| 20:31.58 | jelly | the who? |
| 20:32.09 | blackflow | le :) |
| 20:32.10 | ompaul | jhutchins: a little search did this (obviously I don't use that command often) invoke-rc.d networking stop && invoke-rc.d networking start |
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| 20:32.28 | ompaul | but I have no idea why or how |
| 20:32.36 | ompaul | goes to get his brain wrinced |
| 20:32.44 | jhutchins | I haven't tried that oen yet. |
| 20:32.55 | blackflow | ompaul: isn't that what service networking restart does? |
| 20:33.18 | ompaul | blackflow: eh what I just read says no |
| 20:33.33 | ompaul | but then I could be completely misinformed |
| 20:33.33 | jelly | blackflow: stop and start are a bit different from restart, but "service" and "invoke-rc.d" are basically equivalent in this case |
| 20:33.34 | jhutchins | I've been messing with openconnect & trying to script it, and if you kill it with kill it doesn't clean up. |
| 20:33.54 | ompaul | sits down and begs jelly to give more detail |
| 20:34.06 | jelly | about what? |
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| 20:34.29 | ompaul | something more to read about that restarting |
| 20:34.57 | blackflow | jelly: but the networking init script does ifup and ifdown for individual actions |
| 20:34.58 | jelly | brokenness of Debian's networking init script? It even tells you not to use the "restart" parameter when you use it |
| 20:35.11 | ompaul | ok |
| 20:35.12 | jhutchins | ompaul: Nope, did nothing. |
| 20:35.30 | jelly | (don't ask why is it still there) |
| 20:35.30 | ompaul | jhutchins: so you turned off your network and asked it to restart - you running stable or sid? |
| 20:35.39 | jhutchins | ithink invoke-rc.d might be from upstart. |
| 20:35.44 | ompaul | jelly: cos I didn't file a bug I guess |
| 20:36.02 | jhutchins | ompaul: running jessie. |
| 20:36.09 | ompaul | puts his hands up and takes the blame |
| 20:36.09 | jelly | blackflow: last time I looked, it did weird things and not just that |
| 20:36.13 | jhutchins | ompaul: I didn't turn off my network. |
| 20:36.36 | blackflow | jelly: well, not _just_ that, no |
| 20:36.54 | ompaul | jhutchins: and ifdown and ifup are not doing it for you - do you have any strange stuff sitting there on the box |
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| 20:37.03 | ompaul | vpns and eth0:1 |
| 20:37.05 | ompaul | etc |
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| 20:37.23 | ompaul | thinks that's a weak version of "strange" but it will do for the moment |
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| 20:38.15 | jhutchins | The init script did other nice things like unmount network filesystems and remount them, and restart things like ntp. |
| 20:38.21 | ompaul | jhutchins: if isn't a state secret can we get you to paste the /etc/networking/interfaces script (remember no real public ip and no passwords ;-)) |
| 20:38.28 | cyphix | Hi! I just installed a fresh debian with debian-live-8.0.0-amd64-gnome-desktop+nonfree.iso, and it installed everything automatically. Problem: I don't know how to connect to the root account. I automatically get logged as user@debian. Is there a default password for the root session? |
| 20:38.42 | niek__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:38.44 | jhutchins | ompaul: Yes, ifdown && ifup are the only thing that works so far. |
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| 20:39.03 | jhutchins | ompaul: I'm just looking for something more global that will handle those other details. |
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| 20:39.23 | jeeves_moss | does anyone have the telus wvdial config? |
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| 20:39.35 | jelly | jhutchins: nothing that actually worked |
| 20:39.35 | fxkr | hi! does anyone here have a working preseed.cfg for jessie with static IP configuration that make d-i NOT ask the DHCP server first? |
| 20:39.40 | fxkr | i tried "d-i netcfg/disable_autoconfig boolean true" and "d-i netcfg/use_autoconfig boolean false" but that didnt work. |
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| 20:40.23 | ompaul | jhutchins: your own personal script? (ugly hack but at least it will do what you want) |
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| 20:40.35 | jhutchins | I need to do a clean install. It'll probably boot faster. |
| 20:40.49 | ompaul | jhutchins: now that's a bit radical :) |
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| 20:41.48 | jhutchins | ompaul: I mean A clean install, not reinstall this. Dual boot, so I can learn the new stuff. |
| 20:42.05 | ompaul | ack |
| 20:42.10 | ompaul | jhutchins: you could also run a vm |
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| 20:42.26 | jhutchins | Um, yeah, I guess that's what the cool kids do these days. |
| 20:42.31 | ompaul | heh |
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| 20:42.37 | ompaul | nothing cool about me and I use some of them |
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| 20:43.53 | jhutchins | Is vmx the cpu flag for VM extensions? |
| 20:44.05 | jhutchins | This is a rather old core2 system. |
| 20:44.15 | ompaul | iirc yes |
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| 20:44.47 | ompaul | http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/Processor_support |
| 20:44.52 | ompaul | jhutchins: ^^ yes |
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| 20:46.01 | jhutchins | I was surprised by how much better vbox performs than vmware player. |
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| 20:49.46 | cyphix | No one knows how to access the root account of this installation? |
| 20:50.13 | zinx | cyphix: boot with init=/bin/sh |
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| 20:50.53 | cyphix | zinx: How do I do that? And shouldn't I have the root password? |
| 20:51.04 | jhutchins | cyphix: Odd, the installer should prompt you for root password and additional users. |
| 20:51.14 | zinx | put it on the command line. you don't need the root password. |
| 20:51.26 | cyphix | jhutchins: I know. With the standard install, it did. |
| 20:51.35 | zinx | if you install sudo, it may not ask for a root password |
| 20:51.48 | jhutchins | cyphix: You need to hit "e" at the grub menu and edit the boot command line, add that to the end, |
| 20:51.55 | zinx | you can just use sudo to do stuff in that case, though. |
| 20:52.14 | cyphix | jhutchins: Ok I'll try that |
| 20:52.16 | jhutchins | zinx: I believe you're thinking of that _other_ distribution. |
| 20:52.19 | cyphix | I need the root account |
| 20:52.47 | zinx | jhutchins: nope |
| 20:53.11 | zinx | jhutchins: try a recent debian installer, it may need expert mode to get the prompt idk |
| 20:53.18 | cyphix | I don't even have the password for the standard user o_O I can't log back in..... |
| 20:53.39 | jhutchins | zinx: It would still prompt you for user accounts. |
| 20:53.46 | zinx | jhutchins: absolutely |
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| 20:54.12 | jhutchins | cyphix: Sounds like the live CD did some strange emulation of the live image. |
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| 20:54.41 | cyphix | Yeah. I might try the webboot instead |
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| 20:54.54 | zinx | i always use the netinst cd |
| 20:55.05 | zinx | well, image, i put it on a flash drive generally :/ |
| 20:55.34 | jhutchins | cyphix: try user/live |
| 20:55.42 | jhutchins | cyphix: username/password |
| 20:55.53 | cyphix | Sorry, I'm noob at this, Which file should I copy on a usb stick from there? : http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.0.0-live+nonfree/amd64/webboot/ |
| 20:56.47 | jhutchins | cyphix: Everybody gotta start somewhere. |
| 20:57.00 | cyphix | jhutchins: Ok it worked for user/live. But I didn't understand how to access the root account. |
| 20:57.18 | jelly | sudo -i ? |
| 20:57.21 | jhutchins | cyphix: See if sudo works. |
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| 20:57.54 | jhutchins | cyphix: Apparently adding live-config to the boot options will cause you to log in as user. |
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| 20:58.39 | jhutchins | cyphix: There are man pages for live-boot and live-config |
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| 21:00.16 | cyphix | if I type sudo apt-get update, I get the message "sudo: unable to execute /usr/bin/apt-get: Input/outup error |
| 21:00.33 | jhutchins | I would expect a live system to use sudo rather than a root password; I don't find one mentioned in discussions (whereas I did for knoppix). |
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| 21:01.17 | jhutchins | cyphix: If sudo appears to work, try sudo passwd to change/set the root password. |
| 21:01.48 | jhutchins | !netinstall |
| 21:01.48 | dpkg | netinst is, like, a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 21:01.53 | cyphix | Ok but I get an Input/output error what ever the command I tyle |
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| 21:02.00 | cyphix | (with sudo) |
| 21:02.14 | jhutchins | cyphix: Did you try sudo -i? |
| 21:02.26 | jhutchins | cyphix: I suspect you might have a read-only filesystem. |
| 21:02.46 | cyphix | yes, it says bash: /usr/bin/mesg: Input/output error |
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| 21:03.16 | jelly | that happens when the cdrom/usb disconnects |
| 21:03.34 | jhutchins | cyphix: So you created the drive with pendrive linux - how did you start the installer? |
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| 21:04.54 | cyphix | Oooooh but it did not install anything... |
| 21:05.33 | cyphix | Ok, I get the meaning of 'live' now... |
| 21:05.54 | jhutchins | cyphix: Ah, so you're RUNNING the live system! |
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| 21:06.07 | cyphix | jhutchins: Yes ....... |
| 21:06.18 | jhutchins | That makes a lot more sense then. |
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| 21:06.40 | jhutchins | Still, it was a fun trip down the rabbit hole. |
| 21:06.59 | cyphix | Yeah sorry :D |
| 21:07.24 | cyphix | I'll look for the proper netinst+non-free installer then. |
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| 21:08.05 | dvs | cyphase: |
| 21:08.22 | dvs | cyphix: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 21:08.59 | cyphix | Yes, I took the first one. I'll take the simple 8.0.0 |
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| 21:15.24 | jhutchins | !ig |
| 21:15.25 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 8 "Jessie" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/installmanual . See also <errata>, <jessie release notes>. |
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| 21:23.06 | jhutchins | ompaul: It appears the init script does ifdown -a --exclude lo - that format would be reasonable. |
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| 21:51.07 | aarkerio | hi! how can I generate the UEFI files ? |
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| 21:51.53 | ompaul | !uefi |
| 21:51.53 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later releases support installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. http://www.uefi.org/ |
| 21:52.31 | l3archos1 | hello. What do I need on my Linux workstation running Gnome to allow stream a video, picture or music file to a right-click on a video orDLNA/UPnP client (for example Kodi running as UPnPclient) ? I'd like to be able to right-click within my file manager onto a video or music file and choose from the context menu "Stream to Kodi Client" or something like that. How do I do that? |
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| 21:54.42 | aarkerio | I don't know how to use: |
| 21:54.42 | aarkerio | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/efi-development/jessie-upload3/ |
| 21:57.26 | dutchfish | l3archos1, well, why not setup a nfs mount and export a dir? that way you can manage it on your kodi box. |
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| 21:58.23 | l3archos1 | dutchfish: that's not what I asked for. My goal is to "choose" a video file on my notebook and start play it. It should automagically play on my TV where Kodi is running. |
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| 22:00.35 | dutchfish | l3archos1, well, you can remotely command over its webservice only what kodi knows about as far as i know |
| 22:01.03 | l3archos1 | dutchfish: no man, you're talking about something quite different. That's not the topic. |
| 22:01.37 | dutchfish | l3archos1, ok |
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| 22:09.22 | barfod | is there a way to add udhcp at boot for ethernet to debian as a service as opposed to modifying /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 22:09.38 | barfod | like: service add dhcp |
| 22:10.07 | barfod | and sorry i did not mean to say udhcp * I meant dhcp. as in the dhcp-client that debian ships with |
| 22:10.14 | barfod | not that busybox stuff |
| 22:11.08 | frogmella | this will probably get me banned but oh well i need urgent help. Any programmers or designers want to help with https://www.criosphinx.net? Click on an add then e-mail me at dan@criosphinx.net to say you have, gotta pay you guys somehow eventually haha! awesome btw seo analyzer -> criosphinx.net/seo-checker |
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| 22:22.02 | winsen | Hi all |
| 22:22.13 | nonewhatsoever | can anyone recommend me a *free* service similar to wetransfer that allows you to transfer files and does not require to state the *sender's* email address (not even a temporary or throwaway one)? |
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| 22:22.37 | winsen | can you please tell me what is the stable version distro to install on my phone android "maguro"? |
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| 22:23.09 | AshleyNX | Anyone know a good cli browser to use? that can read images |
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| 22:29.19 | AshleyNX | Anyone know a good cli browser to use? that can read images?? |
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| 22:34.23 | Brigo | AshleyNX, read images? |
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| 22:37.59 | AshleyNX | I use links right now |
| 22:38.05 | AshleyNX | just wondered if any better |
| 22:38.11 | AshleyNX | i love links tho |
| 22:38.22 | jelly | what do you mean by reading images |
| 22:38.39 | sealbhach | There's elinks, I think it can be made to display images using a helper program |
| 22:38.43 | AshleyNX | able to open images up instead of just dl |
| 22:39.52 | sealbhach | Not sure, google elinks display images or some such. elinks is more sophisticated than lynx or links |
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| 22:40.47 | sealbhach | I use turses for twitter |
| 22:40.51 | AshleyNX | ok thanks :P ready have elinks just will look into it |
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| 22:44.24 | sealbhach | Using elinks with fbida to display images: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/blog/uxrs75-534818/viewing-images-with-elinks-3057/ |
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| 22:52.34 | frzr | need to reduce the size of one lvm partition and expand the other, how do i achieve this? http://hastebin.com/ajenahirin.coffee, want to expand the / and reduce the /home, guess the disks are raided aswell.. im clueless here |
| 22:53.11 | frzr | just noticed all the mysql instances has crashed because of 0% space left on / |
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| 22:58.07 | jelly | frzr: roughly: umount /home, fsck -f /home, resize2fs /home new-sizeG, lvresize -LsamesizeG /dev/mapper/DebianTemplate01-home |
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| 22:59.00 | jelly | growing / can be done online, without umount |
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| 23:03.03 | frzr | that applies to both disks then? |
| 23:03.37 | squisher | hm, any idea what to check if systemd sends me into a maintenance shell but I don't see any errors on screen (or in journalctl -xb)? |
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| 23:09.43 | jelly | frzr: you don't have to deal with disks at that level at all |
| 23:10.21 | jelly | frzr: also you only seem to have one disk, sda? |
| 23:10.29 | Brigo | frzr, what filesystem are you using in those lvm volumes? |
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| 23:19.05 | frzr | Brigo: it's ext4 |
| 23:19.12 | frzr | yea it was only sda, my bad |
| 23:19.40 | frzr | looks like these commands should work: http://hastebin.com/fuwuqelive.hs |
| 23:19.46 | frzr | bit scary, the server is in production :) |
| 23:19.54 | frzr | don't know if i dare do this |
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| 23:21.22 | frzr | http://hastebin.com/jahinegoti.erlang_repl |
| 23:21.30 | frzr | would be sweet if someone could help and doublecheck :) |
| 23:21.41 | Shibe | guys |
| 23:21.46 | Brigo | frzr, you can expand a ext4 fs online, but not shrink it. |
| 23:21.49 | Shibe | its not letting me upgrade from debian 7 to debian 8 |
| 23:21.49 | Shibe | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.49 | Shibe | E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by he |
| 23:21.49 | Shibe | ld packages. |
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| 23:22.10 | Shibe | http://paste.debian.net/189581/ |
| 23:22.12 | frzr | i dont want to expand the ext4 / |
| 23:22.13 | Brigo | Shibe, uninstall plymouth |
| 23:22.14 | Shibe | it isnt letting me upgrade |
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| 23:22.17 | Shibe | ok |
| 23:22.39 | frzr | ...erhm i dont want to reduce the ext4 / , i want to expand it, i want to reduce the home disk |
| 23:22.42 | frzr | :) |
| 23:23.05 | Brigo | frzr, the home disk is ext4 too? then you have to unmount it first. |
| 23:23.19 | frzr | yea ill have to shut everything down and umount the home disk |
| 23:23.21 | frzr | it seems |
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| 23:23.41 | Brigo | frzr, who are using home ? |
| 23:23.47 | frzr | everything |
| 23:23.58 | frzr | all vhosts are in home/www_dir |
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| 23:24.04 | frzr | home/user/www_dir rather |
| 23:25.01 | frzr | did you check the 'command' document i posted Brigo ? did it look decent? |
| 23:25.20 | Brigo | frzr, no. |
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| 23:25.45 | frzr | found it by some guy that was doing the exact same stuff that i want to do, resize home and expand / |
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| 23:26.08 | frzr | but guides... never trust them |
| 23:26.24 | Brigo | frzr, yes, i think it should work, but i am not an expert. |
| 23:27.04 | jelly | ,v plymouth |
| 23:27.05 | judd | Package: plymouth on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.3-9.2; wheezy: 0.8.5.1-5; sid: 0.9.0-9; stretch: 0.9.0-9; jessie: 0.9.0-9 |
| 23:27.18 | Shibe | guys Im updating debian and I have options for keymap |
| 23:27.20 | Shibe | what should i pick |
| 23:27.30 | Shibe | http://i.imgur.com/0qNXjy3.png |
| 23:27.38 | frzr | Brigo: :/ need an expert, dont wanna fail at this, will be disaster |
| 23:27.38 | jelly | Shibe: as for the plymouth issue, did you read jessie release notes? |
| 23:27.55 | Shibe | jelly: no |
| 23:27.57 | Brigo | frzr, i agree :) |
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| 23:28.14 | Shibe | jelly: what should i select http://i.imgur.com/0qNXjy3.png |
| 23:28.17 | frzr | thx for the help anyway, ill research more :) |
| 23:28.19 | Shibe | also do i get to keep all my data |
| 23:28.26 | Brigo | frzr, np :) |
| 23:28.37 | barfod | frzr: an expert would make a backup of the data first |
| 23:28.56 | barfod | not just do some theoretically correct procedure |
| 23:29.05 | frzr | the host has backups |
| 23:29.29 | barfod | somehow i doubt that. or it would not be an issue |
| 23:29.29 | jelly | Shibe: just pick the default if you don't know. |
| 23:29.42 | frzr | so thats covered, but theyre not fast so we're looking at a couple of days downtime if i would fuck it up |
| 23:30.01 | Shibe | jelly: help http://i.imgur.com/PbXDFXL.png |
| 23:30.04 | Brigo | frzr, get a test server. |
| 23:30.08 | Shibe | this is for a server btw |
| 23:30.29 | jelly | Shibe: do you use ipv6? |
| 23:30.32 | Shibe | no |
| 23:30.35 | frzr | or partion the disks decent to start with :) |
| 23:30.58 | jelly | Shibe: then you don't need it configured, use the empty line default |
| 23:31.33 | jelly | Shibe: did you fix the plymouth issue? |
| 23:31.40 | Shibe | yes |
| 23:31.43 | Shibe | jelly: http://i.imgur.com/eUOf5HO.png |
| 23:31.45 | Shibe | what do i select |
| 23:31.56 | jelly | are you going to ask for every question? |
| 23:32.00 | Shibe | jelly: maybe |
| 23:32.03 | Brigo | frzr, that is, only one partition, of course :D |
| 23:32.04 | Shibe | should I just do 'N' |
| 23:32.07 | Shibe | will it make a difference |
| 23:32.22 | Shibe | screw it im gonna press N |
| 23:32.22 | jelly | I'm going to have to charge you $10 for each screenshot, then |
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| 23:32.57 | frzr | Brigo: :) |
| 23:32.57 | Brigo | i will do it only for $9,59! :D |
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| 23:35.18 | Kudos2Me | Send 100% completely unbranded e-mails by us free, forever, try it on yourself first if you don't believe me! Send it from any made up name + email at http://bit.ly/1cqkqvW |
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| 23:40.25 | cyphix | Hello. I would like to live stream my screen and display the stream on a webpage hosted on my private server (under Debian jessie). To do that, I installed the nginx module rtmp, and I managed to sucessfully read the stream on VLC. But I have no idea how to send it to a webpage. I installed a web viewer with Projekktor, but I don't know how to "connect" the stream to the viewer. Would someone be kind enough |
| 23:40.27 | cyphix | to guide the noob that I am into this procedure, or give me hints about what to look at? I found many pages telling different things, I tried many things without success. |
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| 23:43.55 | centrx | There doesn't seem to be a solution to get rid of the init 401 touch not found message? |
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| 23:50.29 | jmd | I have just upgraded to jessie. Now, my remote nfs mounts cannot be mounted at boot time. It works fine by doing "mount -a" as root after boot, but not while booting. How can I fix this. |
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| 23:51.55 | jelly | jmd: does it help if you add _netdev option to lines in fstab? |
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| 23:54.36 | jmd | jelly: I've not heard about that before. Where is it documented? |
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| 23:55.49 | jmd | jelly: nm, man mount |
| 23:56.00 | jmd | I will try it. |
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