| 00:00.18 | mtn_ | !tell Erizo about parsix |
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| 00:01.40 | jhutchins | ptrz: I guess it's a question of how soon you have to have it back up again. |
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| 00:03.05 | kingsley | Brigo: Well, we have that in common. |
| 00:03.07 | ptrz | jhutchins: true. and how much time I want to spend trying to bootstrap |
| 00:03.52 | Brigo | kingsley, just like twins :D |
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| 00:11.08 | Brigo | kingsley, you cannot paste more than 3 lines, or you will be kicked. Use paste.debian.net :) |
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| 00:13.04 | AshleyNX | is the sound manager apt-get install sound-manager-gnome? |
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| 00:32.11 | Zerock | I rebooted today, and for some reason gnome-keyring did not start when I logged in? |
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| 00:45.44 | kingsley | Why would linux's iostat command report that 16 MB/sec is being written to a newly formatted and mounted SSD? |
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| 00:47.26 | erenburakalic | kingsley cant you see which process is using it |
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| 00:48.02 | kingsley | erenburakalic: You ask a reasonable question. |
| 00:48.36 | kingsley | A cursory look with the "top" command revealed noting, and the IO stopped before I could look further. |
| 00:48.46 | kingsley | s/noting/nothing/ |
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| 00:49.14 | erenburakalic | kingsley iotop |
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| 00:49.54 | erenburakalic | apt-get update && apt-get install iostop && iotop |
| 00:49.54 | kingsley | I'll check it out. Thanks. |
| 00:50.09 | erenburakalic | no prob. let us know if you find it |
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| 01:07.59 | incal | how can I find out from what pack is a binary? |
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| 01:08.48 | incal | i.e., the opposite of dpkg --listfiles |
| 01:11.06 | allorder | dpkg --search ? |
| 01:11.08 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, allorder |
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| 01:17.54 | incal | allorder: indeed |
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| 02:05.34 | AshleyNX | anyone here? |
| 02:06.00 | allorder | me |
| 02:06.07 | allorder | !ask |
| 02:06.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 02:06.10 | AshleyNX | whats a good RDC for debian |
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| 02:06.32 | AshleyNX | i am trying to find a remote desktop client/server software |
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| 02:07.31 | orlock | AshleyNX: what protocol? |
| 02:07.47 | AshleyNX | nvm i found FreeRDP |
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| 02:09.57 | AshleyNX | Hug's orlock |
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| 02:25.29 | jaggzt | \ |
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| 02:36.40 | karlpinc | AshleyNX: Most people use the vnc protocol on Linux. |
| 02:36.55 | karlpinc | AshleyNX: Or just X. |
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| 02:44.12 | srg | I have 14 images. I'd like to convert them into a portable printable document (PDF?) where each page has two images. Is there a package to do this automatically? |
| 02:45.03 | srg | My idea was to just paste them into a libreoffice document, but it seems that there should be some sort of "powerpoint-type" to PDF generator thing |
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| 02:46.20 | orlock | srg: theres ghostscript, and then a whole lot of packages that will use it |
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| 02:46.40 | orlock | srg: what sort of images? |
| 02:46.58 | srg | screenshots, to be specific. just jpg's |
| 02:47.17 | allorder | there is online tool too, http://www.convert-jpg-to-pdf.net/ |
| 02:47.18 | filler77 | [ Convert JPG to PDF for free - JPG to PDF online converter ] - www.convert-jpg-to-pdf.net |
| 02:47.28 | srg | programming professor wants screenshots of code & output from eclipse for a bunch of problems |
| 02:47.30 | srg | PRINTED |
| 02:48.01 | jaggzt | why is this so complicated? |
| 02:48.14 | orlock | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=jpg+to+pdf |
| 02:48.15 | filler77 | [ Let me google that for you ] - lmgtfy.com |
| 02:48.27 | jaggzt | I'm installing google-earth's .deb and it wants lsb-core, but it "won't be installed". apt-cache policy shows candidate: "4.1+Debian13+nmu1" |
| 02:48.39 | orlock | srg: sorry, forgot to add debian |
| 02:48.53 | jaggzt | If I try to install lsb-core by hand there's a tree of other dependencies with many "won't be installed"'s |
| 02:49.05 | orlock | srg: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian+jpg+to+pdf |
| 02:49.05 | filler77 | [ Let me google that for you ] - lmgtfy.com |
| 02:49.08 | orlock | srg: top link |
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| 02:49.37 | srg | ah, thanks |
| 02:49.40 | allorder | stop lmgtfy, it isnt friendly |
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| 02:50.34 | orlock | allorder: howso? |
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| 02:51.20 | allorder | tell them how you got answer, dont show them this silly site |
| 02:51.55 | trampel | have you ever heard of a *nix command which was "for internal use only"/"undocumented"? so it is with the "scp -t" and "-f" options @#! Oracle https://blogs.oracle.com/janp/entry/how_the_scp_protocol_works |
| 02:51.57 | filler77 | [ How the SCP protocol works (Jan Pechanec's weblog) ] - blogs.oracle.com |
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| 02:52.07 | orlock | allorder: It actually shows exactly how i got the answer though |
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| 02:52.21 | allorder | maybe, but sound unfriendly |
| 02:52.38 | allorder | elitism sux |
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| 02:53.32 | orlock | AS far as unfriendly ways of subtly letting people know they could have just asked google |
| 02:53.43 | orlock | that it about the least unfriendly i could have thought of |
| 02:54.07 | orlock | short of saying "i would just type "debian jpg to pdf" into google and see what the results said |
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| 02:54.23 | orlock | because its not elitism |
| 02:54.34 | allorder | not my opinion |
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| 02:54.39 | allorder | :) |
| 02:54.58 | orlock | its giving somebody a slight nod that hey, a large chunk of the worlds knowledge is at their gingertips with a robot to figure out which bit is likely going to be relevant.. use it |
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| 02:55.54 | allorder | ya google answer all my question since the beginning, but something people need a hand to help |
| 02:56.05 | allorder | sometime * |
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| 02:57.01 | orlock | So you think it would be better to ask people if they googled the answer, because, its like the top result for XYZ |
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| 02:57.29 | allorder | no, i think sometime its better to google for them |
| 02:57.52 | orlock | Give a man a fire, he's warm for the night |
| 02:58.01 | orlock | Set a man on fire, he's warm for the rest of his life. |
| 02:58.04 | dvs | or sets the city on fire |
| 02:58.15 | allorder | ahah :) |
| 02:59.14 | AshleyNX | .:: 030:340 ::. What did the fox say -DJ REMIX |
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| 03:09.48 | buu | Hrm. What could cause traceroute to return * * * for 100s of hops? |
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| 03:12.47 | jelly | AshleyNX: please switch that now playing script off in here. |
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| 03:14.24 | AshleyNX | .:: Now-Playing // Disabled ::. |
| 03:14.32 | AshleyNX | their |
| 03:14.45 | AshleyNX | meanie :P |
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| 03:16.20 | jelly | AshleyNX: this place if for tech support, if everyone kept their NP scripts it'd be filled with junk |
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| 03:17.11 | AshleyNX | IdleScript v1.0 By: AshleyNX ~ Enabled |
| 03:17.25 | jelly | AshleyNX: switch the idle/away script off, too |
| 03:17.54 | AshleyNX | "sigh..." |
| 03:18.15 | jelly | keep any automated crap off the channel, thanks |
| 03:18.18 | allorder | wow, nice script |
| 03:18.45 | AshleyNX | Sgt. Jelly is Jelly |
| 03:19.19 | buu | How is it 2015 and we still have idle scripts on irc |
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| 03:19.31 | jelly | filler77: same goes for your URL bot, if you want to run it here, ask in #debian-ops |
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| 03:19.59 | AshleyNX | jelly: who are you a cop? |
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| 03:20.39 | AshleyNX | is thinking, maybe a flood bot will fix jelly |
| 03:20.45 | jelly | AshleyNX: sadly, all you can see an op do is pretty much policing around |
| 03:20.57 | SmashingX | hi, any can help me to get my eth0 connectiong back please? |
| 03:21.07 | SmashingX | if I execute ifconfig it doesnât appear there |
| 03:21.22 | phy1729 | SmashingX: what about ip link ? |
| 03:21.36 | SmashingX | nothing |
| 03:21.44 | SmashingX | onli lo: |
| 03:21.47 | SmashingX | only lo |
| 03:22.16 | SmashingX | I did sudo ifup eth0 and eth1 and it just says ignoring unknown interface eth0=eth0 |
| 03:22.29 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 03:22.30 | *** mode/#debian [-o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 03:22.48 | AshleyNX | so jelly is a cop nice |
| 03:22.49 | AshleyNX | <3 |
| 03:22.49 | jelly | SmashingX: did you change the kernel or the hardware recently? |
| 03:23.01 | SmashingX | no jelly I was trying to get wifi to work |
| 03:23.06 | SmashingX | and then now nothing works |
| 03:23.23 | SmashingX | but nothing on the hardware side |
| 03:23.33 | buu | SmashingX: Did you unload a kernel module? |
| 03:23.48 | buu | SmashingX: Do you know how to check if your kernel has the right module loaded? |
| 03:23.48 | jelly | using gnome? Maybe you got the wired connection disabled |
| 03:24.41 | SmashingX | Im using mate |
| 03:24.51 | AshleyNX | silently turns scripts on.. crap jelly is looking |
| 03:24.57 | jelly | SmashingX: alright, which debian release? |
| 03:25.10 | AshleyNX | whaa? I did no such thing |
| 03:25.11 | SmashingX | wheezy |
| 03:25.34 | jelly | AshleyNX: other ops would have just muted you. Please be nice. |
| 03:25.43 | AshleyNX | :( |
| 03:26.00 | AshleyNX | no love i swear storms off |
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| 03:26.58 | jelly | SmashingX: huh, how'd you install mate on wheezy. What does "uname -r" say? |
| 03:27.02 | SmashingX | How can I find the MAC number? |
| 03:27.28 | SmashingX | it doesnât display a mac number so I was wondering why is that |
| 03:27.39 | dvs | SmashingX: ip link |
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| 03:35.37 | jelly | SmashingX: the correct driver has to be loaded for "ip link" to show you the interface and its MAC. At this time either the driver is not loaded or the device has been switched off somehow. Does this persist across reboots? |
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| 04:34.27 | jelly | hmm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Test |
| 04:34.27 | filler77 | [ Test - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ] - en.wikipedia.org |
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| 05:19.38 | pepelui | Como dice que les va? |
| 05:19.50 | pepelui | muchachos, tengo una duda |
| 05:20.03 | pepelui | alguien me puede ayudar tal vez? |
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| 06:32.33 | alfatau | hello all. I added an expresscard to my laptop to get an USB3 hub. Storage performances are really far from expected. Is there a way to know if the expresscard is connected to a PCIe 1.0 or to PCIe 2.0? Also, any other idea about debugging low expresscard performances? |
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| 08:08.20 | ws2k3 | Hello, i have a /var/mail/root file of 20 gb how can i read this email? when i use mail or mutt my system compleetly freezes |
| 08:08.23 | venkat_330 | I am trying understand the possibility of achieving this: |
| 08:08.23 | venkat_330 | I have an N2600 motherboard and using Debian 6 (2.6.32). |
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| 08:09.58 | AshleyNX | I am trying to extract a .bin file on linux.. i did chmod -x file.bin then went ./file.bin and it said permission denied yet i am root |
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| 08:12.03 | Zumochi | AshleyNX: you removed the execute permission. Do chmod +x, not -x |
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| 08:13.07 | Zumochi | AshleyNX: I'd also recommend against doing that as root. Try doing it as a normal user (with the proper rwx permissions) instead |
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| 08:14.56 | AshleyNX | I am trying to extract a .bin file on linux.. i did chmod -x file.bin then went ./file.bin and it said permission denied yet i am root |
| 08:15.01 | AshleyNX | i did this stuff |
| 08:15.23 | Zumochi | AshleyNX: what are the permissions on the file? |
| 08:15.36 | Zumochi | Maybe you don't have read permission? Or write permission to the folder you're in? |
| 08:15.51 | AshleyNX | 777 |
| 08:15.56 | l3archos | anyone can suggest me a music Player that allows also "folder" based browsing of my music database? it would be nice when the player is capable of browsing DLNA server, that means UPnP capable |
| 08:16.06 | AshleyNX | good call |
| 08:16.07 | venkat_330 | Possiblity of faking displays: I have an N2600 motherboard and using Debian 6 (2.6.32). I for sure know that, If need to control my display devices I need to update my Xorg and Kernel. Which in current situation i do not see any possibility due to business implications. is there a way i make my kernel with MODPROBE or some mechanism to detect my displays (HDMI& VGA) So that from application i can use both screens to display. I am okay to use even V |
| 08:16.14 | AshleyNX | sec i'll chance folder to 777 |
| 08:16.32 | Zumochi | AshleyNX: avoid using 777 on anything ever |
| 08:16.54 | AshleyNX | why |
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| 08:18.02 | Zumochi | Because any user can then access, execute, modify the file/folder |
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| 08:20.32 | NuxRo | hi, is there a repo with newer kernels for stable? |
| 08:21.00 | phix | yes, it's called ubuntu |
| 08:21.26 | phix | Or you can compile from source |
| 08:21.30 | AshleyNX | lol phix |
| 08:21.35 | AshleyNX | yucky ubuntu |
| 08:21.45 | ws2k3 | Hello, i have a /var/mail/root file of 20 gb how can i read this email? when i use mail or mutt my system compleetly freezes |
| 08:22.33 | phix | ws2k3: ouch, that's one large file |
| 08:23.22 | AshleyNX | agree's with phix |
| 08:23.59 | AshleyNX | *setup's a firewall.sh on phix's computer when he wasn't looking |
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| 08:24.37 | Zumochi | Luckily phix can just remove it again if he so desires because the permissions are 777 |
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| 08:25.11 | AshleyNX | sudo chmod 765 firewall.sh |
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| 08:26.13 | AshleyNX | ssh -l root@Zumochi.telnet.com ROFL |
| 08:26.31 | phix | AshleyNX: ? |
| 08:26.35 | Zumochi | ? |
| 08:26.37 | AshleyNX | idk bored :P |
| 08:27.05 | AshleyNX | changed ./Downloads to 776 and extracted worked.. now changing it back to default |
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| 08:27.54 | Nindustries | Hi guys, trying to add a key from keyserver.ubuntu.com. I have a proxy configured in /etc/apt/apt.conf that allows 80 and 443. > apt-key adv --keyserver hkp://keyserver.ubuntu.com:80 --recv-keys EEA14886 still gives me connection refused. Ideas? |
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| 08:28.43 | AshleyNX | i love how we get ubuntu people here |
| 08:29.03 | phix | Nindustries: try #ubuntu |
| 08:29.23 | Zumochi | AshleyNX: 775 allows anyone to execute it and the group to rwx as well. You may want to try 744 instead. If you're bored, maybe read this? https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/an-introduction-to-linux-permissions |
| 08:29.36 | s7r | hello. plugged in a usb flashdirve (/dev/sdb1) an can't mout it - it says it's not ext. |
| 08:29.39 | s7r | what can i do |
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| 08:29.56 | phix | s7r: what file system is it?>? |
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| 08:30.02 | s7r | phix fat32 |
| 08:30.13 | phix | s7r: did you specify the file system type with the -t flag? |
| 08:30.31 | s7r | it sys /dev/sda1 * 64 123207678 61603807+ 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT |
| 08:30.32 | s7r | nope |
| 08:30.42 | s7r | just sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/usb |
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| 08:31.46 | Zumochi | s7r: try mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/usb |
| 08:31.50 | Zumochi | Also see https://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
| 08:32.45 | s7r | mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs' |
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| 08:33.17 | Zumochi | ntfs-3g? |
| 08:33.44 | Zumochi | Read the wiki page I linked, it should explain everything |
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| 08:33.53 | AshleyNX | nvm.. i run ./file.bin to extraxt and i got this bash: ./DIABLO.bin: cannot execute binary file: Exec format error |
| 08:34.16 | shentino | Will unrealircd be part of debian someday? |
| 08:34.39 | Poiia | Hi, how come this works : %foo ALL= NOPASSWD: /my/command but this doesn't : %foo localhost= NOPASSWD: /my/command. I tested with sudo -l, in the first case /my/command is listed, in the latter I have nothing. As if localhost was not recognized or something. Any hint ? |
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| 08:40.12 | phix | Zumochi: fat32 != ntfs |
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| 08:42.09 | Zumochi | phix: is HPFS/NTFS/exFAT FAT32? |
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| 08:50.32 | l3archos | I remember that I had this feauture some day on my Debian Jessie notebook (gnome-shell). When I placed the mouse cursor onto the title bar of a window and pressed a "key" and at the same time scrolled with the mouse wheel, the transparency of this window were changed. I easily was able to set the transparency of a window with the mouse wheel. How can I re-enable that feauture, I cannot find it anymore. |
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| 08:59.21 | Walex | l3archos: depends on your window manager, look at tweaks for special effects. They also rerquire that that the X drivers support them. |
| 08:59.45 | Dong | Dear guys, I was trying to use Packer to build Debian77/78 from ISO. it seems that the setup/install stage (netboot?) will grab an IP from my DHCPD, and the first boot will grab another one, thus confusing Packer. in the DHCPD log I can see the first DHCP request was sent with a UID, and the second request doesn't. Anyone know how to work around this? e.g. turn off UID sending? |
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| 09:00.35 | petan | how can I change default umask for all users? I changed /etc/login.defs and it didn't change, even when I reloged |
| 09:01.09 | petan | it's still 022 for some reason, but I can't find why, my .profile and so on, doesn't set umask |
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| 09:01.31 | jelly | shentino: only if someone does the work and keeps it up-to-dat |
| 09:01.42 | jelly | ,wnpp unreal-ircd |
| 09:01.43 | judd | Sorry, no wnpp bugs were found. |
| 09:01.46 | jelly | ,wnpp unrealircd |
| 09:01.47 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/515130 in wnpp (open): «RFP: unrealircd -- Unreal IRC Server»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2009-02-13; last modified: 2010-05-25. |
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| 09:03.01 | l3archos | Walex: I cannot find any option related to that topic under "Tweak" configuration :( |
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| 09:07.47 | Resilience | I am having trouble with the "applications menu" item when importing the debian.menu, the item does not import the menu, what can do to see why it is failing? any log? any message? |
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| 09:17.23 | Walex | Dong: that makes little sense to me. You can key DHCP on the Ethernet address or use a manual static address. |
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| 09:18.08 | Walex | l3archos: first check that special effects can be enabled, that is your graphics driver has RENDER or OpenGL/AIX acceleration. Then perhaps look at 'gnome-tweak-tool'. |
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| 09:18.39 | Walex | Resilience: depends on how you import it, it is not totally trivial. |
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| 09:19.07 | l3archos | Walex: sure it can, as I said, I used it before on that same machine I am currently on |
| 09:19.14 | Walex | Resilience: look at 'update-menus' and 'xdg-desktop-menu' |
| 09:19.32 | Walex | l3archos: if you know better... |
| 09:19.40 | Resilience | Walex, well,I import it from the "applications menu" item of xfce, it was functional until last update of xfce... |
| 09:19.52 | l3archos | Walex: I just wanted to state, that my graphic driver is capable of doing it |
| 09:20.00 | Resilience | Walex, look at means to install them? |
| 09:20.14 | Walex | Resilience: the manual page and the docs |
| 09:20.33 | Walex | l3archos: and how do you know your graphics driver has not changed? |
| 09:20.44 | l3archos | Walex: because I can check it ? |
| 09:21.12 | Walex | l3archos: "first check that special effects can be enabled" :-) |
| 09:21.31 | l3archos | Walex: how ? |
| 09:21.37 | Resilience | Walex, how is Walex I though debian.menu installation would take ride of it, it's been workin g from more than a year, and now an update breaks everything, is there no place, no log to see why is it breaking now? |
| 09:23.11 | Walex | l3archos: it's complicated... :-) look at '/var/log/Xorg.0.log' and check which driver is being used; use 'glxinfo | less' to check whether direct rendering is enabled. |
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| 09:23.48 | Walex | Resilience: I don't know about it happened on your system, but I am trying to suggest that you need to understand the menu update mechanism before fixing it. |
| 09:23.56 | l3archos | glxinfo | grep 'direct rendering' is YES |
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| 09:25.00 | l3archos | Walex: my initial question was: where can I configure the behaviour to control the transparency of windows with mouse wheel ? |
| 09:25.19 | Resilience | Walex, well, let's see, where is it explained? and no, manpages are a reference on the optiosn on two programs, where is the debian page where it explains how the debian menu system is added to the xdg menu? this is what I am asking really |
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| 09:25.51 | Dong | Walex: why you say it doesn't make sense, I can see clearly in the lease file the first request is with a UID, the second doesn't, therefore the DHCPD is responding with two IPs. |
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| 09:26.48 | Dong | Walex: I can use fixed IP or fixed MAC, but it will make my Jenkins pipeline a mess |
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| 09:29.55 | pfote | slightly offtopic question: whats the rationale behind disabled root ssh logins? whats the security gain? |
| 09:30.12 | Walex | Dong: the DHCP is responding with two IPs because it is configured to do so. |
| 09:30.23 | adm001mi | Hey all, I'm trying to join the domain at work... got all the credentials but get a "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock...etc" |
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| 09:30.45 | Walex | l3archos: that depends on which window manager your use and how it handles compositing, and whether compositing can be enabled at all. |
| 09:31.13 | Walex | pfote: identifying who becomes 'root'. |
| 09:31.41 | jelly | pfote: also, last measure against silly initial installations with predefined password |
| 09:32.30 | adm001mi | Using the mount -t cifs //domain/share -o username=xxx,password=xxx |
| 09:32.31 | wdoekes | pfote: the security of a username+password combination combines two elements: a valid username with a valid password. if you allow the user root, they don't need to guess the username anymore. |
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| 09:33.19 | pfote | wdoekes: ok, thats a argument |
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| 09:33.45 | wdoekes | that would be the most powerful account, with the least security on it |
| 09:34.22 | Resilience | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:34.50 | prince_jammys | ew, the menu. |
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| 09:36.10 | Resilience | prince_jammys, the menu? |
| 09:36.53 | prince_jammys | Resilience: ignore me. just expressing disdain at the menu system. |
| 09:37.25 | Resilience | prince_jammys, why? it works perfectly, in every windowmanager... |
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| 09:37.51 | Masked-Man | Hello everybody. |
| 09:37.55 | Resilience | prince_jammys, do you where is it explained on how is it done? or is it another dark non documented new debian way? |
| 09:38.31 | prince_jammys | if it worked perfectly, why would you need an explanation? it's supposed to be a "friendly user feature", no? |
| 09:38.50 | prince_jammys | the fact that you need a manual for the menu, I consider fail. |
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| 09:40.01 | Resilience | prince_jammys, because I want to know to know how it works, and because it does not work perfectly, at least not now with xfce... why all you guys from debian are so defensive when asking for "qhere is it explained?" I don0t udnerstand |
| 09:40.20 | prince_jammys | I'm not being defensive, on the contrary. |
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| 09:40.30 | Resilience | prince_jammys, I suppose you'll consider a fail that aircraft enginners need manuals to udnrstand how aircrats are working :/ |
| 09:40.32 | prince_jammys | I consider fail on the part of the menu system, not of you. |
| 09:40.59 | prince_jammys | did you just compare aircraft carriers to a user menu? |
| 09:41.05 | Resilience | prince_jammys, maybe isi it a fial, maybe not, things don't need to be auto-explianed, only neeed docs on how they are done |
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| 09:41.52 | prince_jammys | ok, well, I don't know where it is. |
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| 09:41.59 | Resilience | my question is very clear, is there any documentation on how the menu system in debian is implemented? is it runn by apt-get update? is it run by another procees? how are automatically generated the menu? |
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| 09:42.24 | Resilience | prince_jammys, I did compare it becuae it is the same, documents on how things are done |
| 09:42.58 | prince_jammys | ok, how would you appreciate a cheeseburger that requires a menu> |
| 09:43.05 | shingouz | Resilience: i am not sure what the actual problem might be, but try update-menus (and maybe restart the xfce session) if you have just installed some new software that does not show up in the menu. |
| 09:43.06 | prince_jammys | eh, manual :) |
| 09:43.10 | prince_jammys | https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/menu.html/ |
| 09:43.16 | Masked-Man | Hi i am wondering how to change Init systems. |
| 09:43.31 | Masked-Man | I am using trisquel which comes with systemD |
| 09:44.11 | shingouz | !trisquel |
| 09:44.11 | dpkg | Trisquel is a Spanish distribution initially based on Debian, now Ubuntu. It is not supported in #debian. http://trisquel.info/en #trisquel on irc.freenode.net. See also <based on Debian>. |
| 09:44.52 | Masked-Man | Oh i thought sense Ubuntu is based on Debian it would be supported here. |
| 09:45.01 | shingouz | !based on debian |
| 09:45.01 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 09:45.03 | Masked-Man | Guess i'll go to #trisquel |
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| 09:45.24 | Resilience | shingouz, I runed update-menus months ago (not new to deibna) the problem is that e automatic xdg-menu-generated is bad imported by the "application menu" item of xfce, it is imported only partially, when before the update of xfce it worked perfectly, so I want to know what is debian doing |
| 09:46.31 | Resilience | prince_jammys, thanks |
| 09:46.43 | prince_jammys | Resilience: meh, I doubt it's what you want :) |
| 09:47.06 | prince_jammys | https://publicintelligence.net/u-s-navy-nuclear-carrier-vessel-flight-deck-manual/ |
| 09:47.47 | Resilience | prince_jammys, maybe not, but as far as I n¡know, the debian xdg menu is automatically generated from don'tknow when something happens that don'tknow what is it |
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| 09:47.55 | Resilience | pricetry not to be a fool andnot a sofist man |
| 09:48.06 | shingouz | Resilience: i am not sure where the documentation would be, but see if you can locate something interesting with a dpkg -L <package-of-interest>. that lists everyting the package installs |
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| 09:49.04 | Resilience | xeg automatic generated enu is FAILING, becuase something is making it WRONG, and becuase I don't know how is it generated (with update.menus is it run xdg-desktop-menu¿? ah) then that's why I asked for it |
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| 09:49.41 | Resilience | shingouz, thans but it is not he case, bcuase I don0t know wjat to look for :) |
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| 09:53.19 | shingouz | Resilience: i have not been using xfce since umpty-three years ago. /msg dpkg xdg, maybe the #freedesktop.org would have some idea? you should also ask your question again here later today, a lot of people are at $ORK at the moment |
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| 09:54.24 | molgrum | if i'm building a debian binary-only package, can i skip the "Source" etc lines in debian/control? |
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| 09:56.16 | Resilience | shingouz, in #freedesktop.org I assume they won't want to ask me any quetion,becuase it is not a freeedesktop question and not a menu from freesdektop, and moreover, it is a debian problem, the debian emnu generated for xdg is failing, so it is a debina problem, and I am only makinfgthe question of... how the etc/xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu is generated? |
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| 09:58.05 | shingouz | Resilience: i do not know. i do not use the xfce. i just told you that *maybe* the #freedesktop.org channel has some hints right now. #debian seems to be quiet about the issue at the moment, try again later and maybe someone with more knowledge is here |
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| 10:01.31 | Resilience | shingouz, maybe it is not a xfce question, because the debian menu /etc/xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu is the DTD freedesktop 0.8 and all the other menu's which are working are the DTD 1.0 spec... SO that's why I am asking how is it generated the file /etc/xdg/menus/debian-menu.menu |
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| 10:09.13 | prince_jammys | Resilience: have you looked at the package menu-xdg? |
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| 10:10.37 | Resilience | prince_jammys, yes, it is installed, menu-system is working all right, but the debian.menu, because it is the only one that has the DTD 0.8 whenall the others has the DTD 1.0 so... |
| 10:11.08 | prince_jammys | the debian menu is missing? |
| 10:11.11 | Resilience | I suppose is onemore step ahead to erradicate whatever it be not freedesktop |
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| 10:12.30 | Resilience | prince_jammys, no, dedebian menu is working perfectly udner fwmn, opnbox fwm-crystal and so on, but when using the widget of xfce "applications menu", then the menu gets almost not imported, onyl the help submenu |
| 10:13.04 | Resilience | every other dxg menu (engihtment, mate, cinnamon= they work perfect with xfce, but not debian.menu |
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| 10:13.42 | Resilience | so the problem is not xfce, nor any other thing, but "something" which "casually" doe snot generate debian.menu irght enoguh for freedesktop |
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| 10:13.59 | Resilience | so that's why I want to know how is it generated |
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| 10:15.16 | Resilience | yes, with update-mensu and xdg-desktop-menu, but... how? |
| 10:15.55 | benycze | hi .. i have a question. I am using the Jessi with XFCE env. I am using the chromium browser and I have a problem with icons. There are no icons in the whole application (no icons in download tab, no icon in the application tray). I am able to leave with it but .. Have you had any similar problem? |
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| 10:27.40 | s4ndm4n | Do I need to install PulseAudio to play sound in Java while using Debian? |
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| 10:35.28 | arminius | benycze: did you a) make a screenshot and upload it to clarify the problem and b) start chromium from a terminal and see if there's any output that helps? |
| 10:35.48 | arminius | benycze: if all that fails, you could try c) starting chromium within strace, and see what resources are missing. |
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| 10:53.35 | g105b | How do I set up the system to automatically mount a hard drive when plugged in to the SATA connection? |
| 10:54.10 | fennesz | Guys is there a workaround for this : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/debian-jessie-freezes-after-hibernate-4175536468/ . It's not my thread but I have the exact same setup |
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| 10:55.38 | ChrisH | fennesz: I see similar happen. Similar, it does not freeze but takes looooong time to reactivate, up to several minutes, |
| 10:56.04 | fennesz | ChrisH, is there something we can do about it? |
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| 10:58.03 | be77 | Is puppet/puppetmaster in the repos maintained or am I better of using the official sources? |
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| 10:58.39 | cast | they're in the repos |
| 10:59.08 | cast | i guess its up to you, i'd just use the repo version. |
| 10:59.30 | be77 | cast: yeah but have no idea how old/how secure is the one in the repos |
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| 11:00.31 | cast | 3.7, see packages.debian.org/puppet |
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| 11:01.19 | ChrisH | To me it looks like unplugging the NIC speeds things up. So -maybe- something in the wakeup order is mixed up. It happened to fail sometime while Jessie was testing. |
| 11:01.20 | cast | as to how secure it is, it'll get security updates like other debian stable packages. you could have a look at the history to see how quick they are |
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| 11:08.44 | l3archos | hey all. I compiled and install "Tomahawk" as explained here (http://wiki.tomahawk-player.org/index.php/Building_on_Debian). When I start tomahawk under root account, it starts successfully. But when I run tomahawk under my normal username it fails because it cannot access shared memory (http://paste.debian.net/192488/) anyone can help ? |
| 11:09.13 | bazhang | ,v tomahawk |
| 11:09.14 | judd | No package named 'tomahawk' was found in amd64. |
| 11:09.40 | bazhang | ,v tomahawk-player |
| 11:09.41 | judd | No package named 'tomahawk-player' was found in amd64. |
| 11:09.42 | l3archos | bazhang: there is no Debian package for Jessie, that's why it needs to be compiled |
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| 11:10.04 | bazhang | no debian package at all |
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| 11:11.41 | fennesz | ChrisH, my system freezes completely , I can't do anything and I am connected wireless . So this is not applicable to my setup |
| 11:12.01 | l3archos | anyone can explain to me, why the normal user account has no access to the shared memory and how I can fix that issue ? when I start "tomahawk" under root, it works fine |
| 11:12.27 | l3archos | the whole directory is owned by "myusername" so there's no file permission issue |
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| 11:14.27 | bazhang | no need to use it as root, ever |
| 11:15.09 | jelly | l3archos: weird how the paste says "QSharedMemomry::attach()" in one place, did you type all that in manually? |
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| 11:16.36 | jelly | could be a typo in the library code, but... |
| 11:16.57 | l3archos | jelly: No, I copied it from output. I can paste another time, with german locale. ==> http://paste.debian.net/192578/ |
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| 11:18.21 | bazhang | installing this tomahawk is so you can remove rhythmbox |
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| 11:18.38 | jelly | or a typo in the application |
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| 11:19.25 | jelly | l3archos: best ask the authors or someone clueful in Qt |
| 11:19.41 | l3archos | jelly: they advised me to ask in #debian :( |
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| 11:20.26 | jelly | l3archos: did they tell you what the message meant, and which underlying API is failing? |
| 11:21.00 | l3archos | jelly: "ask debian guys what needs be done to allow your user to get access to shared memory" |
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| 11:22.08 | jelly | l3archos: can you pastebin the output of "ipcs" on your system |
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| 11:23.57 | l3archos | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/192594/ |
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| 11:26.07 | jelly | l3archos: There's a number of successful sysv shm allocations for user "l3archos", it other words shared memory works for that user |
| 11:26.45 | l3archos | jelly: is there something I can try to run tomahawk under my user account ? |
| 11:26.49 | l3archos | any clue ? |
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| 11:28.22 | ChrisH | l3archos: if possible try rebooting to clear up SHM and retry without trying as root before. or man ipcrm to clean up |
| 11:28.29 | jelly | l3archos: if you can't get useful instructions about debugging from the authors, try running the process under strace -f |
| 11:29.45 | jelly | strace will produce a LOT of output, but hopefully there might be something obvious failing before that error message |
| 11:29.59 | jelly | l3archos: what does "Tomahawk is already running" mean, tho? |
| 11:30.02 | g105b | Can someone guide me on how to use nmap or similar to find what devices on the LAN have port 554 open? |
| 11:30.23 | jelly | l3archos: is there a backend tomahawk process somewhere, still running as root? |
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| 11:30.43 | cast | g105b: it's pretty easy to work out, have you had a look at the documentation? |
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| 11:31.46 | l3archos | jelly: no, there is no process relating to tomahawk |
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| 11:32.26 | jelly | l3archos: and yet the app thinks so. Did you kill any previous runs in an unclean way? |
| 11:32.27 | g105b | cast: yes I always try before asking. I've got as far as this: nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24 but I can't see notice of any open ports |
| 11:32.57 | l3archos | jelly: I just pressed CTRL+C on the root terminal window, where I initially started "tomahawk" |
| 11:33.11 | jelly | that's supposed to be clean enough |
| 11:34.11 | jelly | g105b: not just add something like -p 554 |
| 11:34.13 | cast | g105b: -sP doesn't do a port scan |
| 11:34.45 | jelly | now* and omit -sP, right |
| 11:37.20 | g105b | jelly: I'm trying to work out how to get an output of each IP address that has 554 open on separate lines, is that possible? |
| 11:38.36 | g105b | jelly: found --open to be very useful, but still only after the IP address... would rather not parse the output myself |
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| 11:45.40 | jelly | g105b: look at various output options and yes, expect to do some light text munging |
| 11:46.20 | jelly | there was a grepable format |
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| 11:47.17 | g105b | jelly: thanks, I don't mind a bit of awk if necessary, just thought there might be an output flag I couldn't find. |
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| 11:53.05 | dnsk | https://youtu.be/nir2EtmRr3Q |
| 11:53.57 | jelly | dnsk: #debian-offtopic for things like that |
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| 11:54.14 | dnsk | alright, i'm sorry |
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| 12:03.14 | veek | how do i view the startup messages in jessie |
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| 12:06.29 | nkuttler | veek: dmesg? /var/log/syslog /var/log/messages ? |
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| 12:07.25 | veek | nkuttler, i'm talking about what i see at startup.. all that [OK] not OK stuff |
| 12:07.30 | nkuttler | veek: oh right, and journalctl with that newfangled init |
| 12:07.59 | veek | nkuttler, i'm using systemd and it scrolls off quite quickly |
| 12:08.38 | nkuttler | yeah, i think most services should log through systemd. but it really depends. some have their own logs etc |
| 12:08.52 | veek | messages displays everything (same with syslog) |
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| 12:10.24 | veek | also anyway to limit the console-kit-daemon threads.. it's using 62 on a single user box |
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| 12:19.22 | chele | *among processes. |
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| 12:33.33 | ChrisH | I had some strange issues with (on) CIFS/SMB mounted filesystems. I detected the problems while using kid3 (MP3tag editor) ob the mounted Filesystem. Editing MP3 V2 Tags was OK but when I added MP3 V1 Tags and pressed save, the process did hang. strace showed nothing then; strace started before showed last calls are haning write(). Then I did manuall cp tests on the filesystem and observed the copy much sh |
| 12:33.39 | ChrisH | orter than the original file and once it copied until I interrupted and made 2GB+ from 30MB file. |
| 12:34.14 | ChrisH | Both systems running Jessie. |
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| 12:37.10 | no_gravity | I have an libre office file that i cannot open because it is "locked for editing by root". Where is this info stored? |
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| 12:37.35 | ChrisH | no_gravity: same directory, ls -la will show the lockfile |
| 12:37.50 | no_gravity | oh i see |
| 12:37.54 | no_gravity | thanks |
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| 12:38.08 | no_gravity | rm took care of it :) |
| 12:38.24 | ChrisH | sometimes the solution is easy |
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| 12:39.08 | jacksonliao | I create a user with command like 'useradd -m -G testing userA' where group testing exists. After login with the new user tester, I find that some functions such as pwd display, history command with up arrow, autocomplte are missing |
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| 12:39.20 | jacksonliao | how to fix that? or where to check to fix it? |
| 12:39.45 | jacksonliao | other users do not have such issue. |
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| 12:41.38 | uwotm9 | hey people, so am i crazy or is debian UTC incorrect for BST? |
| 12:42.40 | uwotm9 | I did tzselect, chose Europe, chose Britain... it's an hour ahead |
| 12:43.04 | centrx | Are you sure your clock/BIOS is correct? |
| 12:43.11 | molgrum | does update-rc.d automatically start the daemon service or do i have to start it manually afterwards? |
| 12:43.12 | centrx | Use ntpd or ntpdate? |
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| 12:44.07 | themill | uwotm9: UTC and BST are different things |
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| 12:44.17 | jelly | uwotm9: an hour ahead of what? |
| 12:44.39 | uwotm9 | sorry, one moment |
| 12:45.01 | jelly | uwotm9: the installer might wrongly assume your hardware RTC clock is set to UTC time. Windows however sets it to local time. |
| 12:45.38 | s4ndm4n | From my initial tests, it looks like Java requires PulseAudio to play sound in Debian. Is there a way to avoid this? |
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| 12:48.15 | uwotm9 | right, sorry. basically yeah what happens is i dualboot with windows, so when i use windows the system clock gets reset by windows and then it's incorrect for debian |
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| 12:48.30 | uwotm9 | i don't really want to use NTP, is there a way to just adjust the clock simply? |
| 12:48.41 | uwotm9 | i have looekd around and am finding only obsolete stuff like hwclock |
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| 12:49.31 | themill | dpkg: tell uwotm9 about utc |
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| 12:51.22 | cypher-neo | Easy way to fix that... use Windows in a Virtualbox so it doesn't have direct access to your BIOS. |
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| 12:52.19 | uwotm9 | i only have 1gb ram so prefer not to run an OS inside an OS |
| 12:52.45 | uwotm9 | themill thanks that was useful... is there a way to adjust the system clock manually though? like i just need to set the time minus 1 hour |
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| 12:53.13 | themill | uwotm9: what dpkg said |
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| 12:53.40 | uwotm9 | i looked at that, i am on wheezy and so i went to /etc/adjtime |
| 12:53.42 | uwotm9 | it was already set to UTC |
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| 12:53.53 | veek | is there a way to pause the boot screen C-s C-q don't work, neither does scrolllock/pause - jessie |
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| 12:54.41 | uwotm9 | basically my system thinks the correct time, whether set to local or UTC, is 2:55pm the actual time in actual real life is 1:55pm |
| 12:54.57 | themill | uwotm9: but your hwclock is not utc, that's the problem |
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| 12:55.11 | uwotm9 | so how do i adjust my hwclock within debain |
| 12:55.18 | themill | what dpkg said? |
| 12:55.26 | uwotm9 | it says go to /etc/adjtime |
| 12:55.48 | uwotm9 | and set to LOCAL or UTC |
| 12:55.52 | uwotm9 | how do i just minus 1 from the current time |
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| 12:56.59 | themill | uwotm9: that makes no sense. You want either local or utc |
| 12:57.17 | uwotm9 | well if i need NTP to do UTC, then I want LOCAL. but i just want to adjust LOCAL by one hour |
| 12:57.24 | themill | no |
| 12:57.33 | themill | that's not true on either count |
| 12:57.38 | uwotm9 | great |
| 12:57.50 | uwotm9 | so then to simply adjust my clock by one hour i should....... |
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| 12:58.09 | jelly | date --set |
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| 12:58.18 | themill | Please step back from this "I just want to change it by one hour" thing and understand what you need to do. |
| 12:58.37 | themill | You need to ensure that all operating systems and the hardware want to set the clock using the same TZ |
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| 12:59.30 | uwotm9 | well windows is always gonna go off the hwclock as far as i can tell |
| 12:59.42 | uwotm9 | but basically i don't mind it being wrong as long as i can adjust it simply for my current session |
| 12:59.52 | kn0cker | hey, I'm trying to do an upgrade but it complains about unmet dependencies http://pastebin.com/eDRv91QN |
| 12:59.57 | themill | no, the default is for windows to assume that the hwclock is in local time. |
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| 13:00.06 | uwotm9 | right |
| 13:00.11 | themill | which is not what you said. |
| 13:00.18 | themill | but it is what you need to understand, |
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| 13:00.30 | kn0cker | been trying to solve this, but it's above my knowledge :) |
| 13:00.38 | uwotm9 | i think you've misunderstood what i said but assumed you know what i meant better than i did |
| 13:00.51 | jelly | kn0cker: you seem to have a wheezy (debian 7) system with wheezy repos but a newer libc6 installed. That shit won't fly |
| 13:00.57 | centrx | kn0cker, What are you upgrading from/to ? |
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| 13:01.23 | kn0cker | centrx: it's when I do sudo apt-get upgrade |
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| 13:01.43 | themill | uwotm9: so if you've got windows assuming that the hwclock is the local time, doesn't what we've been saying imply you should tell debian that your hwclock is local time? |
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| 13:02.05 | uwotm9 | right, but if local time is incorrect by one hour |
| 13:02.08 | jelly | kn0cker: pastebin your actual command, the whole output, and also output of "apt-cache policy libc6 libc6:i386 libc6-dev libc-dev-bin; apt-cache policy" |
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| 13:02.26 | themill | uwotm9: no |
| 13:02.26 | kn0cker | jelly: sure thing.. one sec |
| 13:02.29 | uwotm9 | if hwclock thinks it is local time, but is incorrect by one hour, i mean |
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| 13:02.44 | themill | that would mean that the time is wrong in windows too... |
| 13:02.48 | uwotm9 | sure |
| 13:02.50 | uwotm9 | i never said it wasn't |
| 13:02.58 | themill | umm... |
| 13:03.05 | uwotm9 | can i just know how to adjust local time please |
| 13:03.08 | themill | maybe it's time to actually fix it? |
| 13:03.12 | jelly | uwotm9: there are two different things to do here. First is to correct assumptions in Linux. Second is to set the hwclock right. |
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| 13:03.27 | uwotm9 | i have adjusted /etc/adjtime so it is LOCAL |
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| 13:03.47 | uwotm9 | and then i did service hwclock.sh restart |
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| 13:04.08 | kn0cker | jelly: http://pastebin.com/LmSv6pBf http://pastebin.com/cGJa8RFk |
| 13:04.35 | jelly | uwotm9: did you do something like "date --set '14:03' " before running "service hwclock.sh restart" ? |
| 13:04.44 | themill | uwotm9: sounds good. Check 'date --utc'. You may need to actually set the time at some stage still. |
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| 13:04.58 | uwotm9 | that's all i wanted to be able to do is actually set the time lol |
| 13:05.11 | uwotm9 | so date --set 14:03 should work? |
| 13:05.39 | jelly | kn0cker: as you can see, your installed version of libc6 and some other stuff is newer than any version from any available repo |
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| 13:06.14 | uwotm9 | that worked |
| 13:06.16 | uwotm9 | thank you very much |
| 13:06.32 | kn0cker | hmm |
| 13:06.37 | jelly | kn0cker: downgrade it. apt-get install libc6=2.13-38+deb7u8 |
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| 13:07.47 | kn0cker | jelly: more unmet dependencies :/ http://pastebin.com/dZYuVnHq |
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| 13:08.30 | centrx | kn0cker, Seems like you have some Frankendebian there |
| 13:08.45 | ChrisH | ,v libc6 |
| 13:08.46 | judd | Package: libc6 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-security-lts: 2.11.3-4+deb6u6; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u6; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.13-38+deb7u8; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u8; jessie: 2.19-18; stretch: 2.19-18; sid: 2.19-18; experimental: 2.21-0experimental0 |
| 13:09.00 | centrx | kn0cker, maybe from the ttp://downloads.hipchat.com/linux/apt/ source |
| 13:09.34 | kn0cker | centrx: not to my knowledge |
| 13:09.37 | ChrisH | kn0cker: looks like a Jessie libc6 is installed on a wheezy box. |
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| 13:10.36 | kn0cker | this is my sources.list file if that helps http://pastebin.com/YBSUAs9H |
| 13:10.49 | ChrisH | kn0cker: http://downloads.hipchat.com/linux/apt/ stable/main <-- that line is pretty dangerous with stable in |
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| 13:12.56 | kn0cker | ChrisH: not sure what exactly you're talking about.. :/ |
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| 13:13.16 | ChrisH | http://pastebin.com/LmSv6pBf line 45 -- your paste |
| 13:13.23 | kn0cker | yeah I saw that |
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| 13:13.49 | jelly | kn0cker: well then, apt-get install libc6=2.13-38+deb7u8 locales=2.13-38+deb7u8 |
| 13:14.05 | jelly | (or use aptitude, it's smarter in this case) |
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| 13:15.48 | kn0cker | jelly: http://pastebin.com/WuZs6UdP I guess I've messed up bad somewhere? :/ |
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| 13:17.51 | jelly | kn0cker: no, that looks like an interesting bug in dpkg in debian 7 |
| 13:18.03 | themill | kn0cker: try doing it with libc6:i386 too (at some stage you will decide it's easier to upgrade to jessie) |
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| 13:18.46 | themill | jelly: or in aptitudes m-a code |
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| 13:21.28 | jelly | I'd say it's definitely dpkg since it thinks new, lower version libc6:amd64 is not the same arch as old testing libc6:amd64 |
| 13:22.27 | jelly | nut sure how to work around it except by editing .list or disabling foreign arches and hoping that bit of code gets unused |
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| 13:23.18 | kn0cker | i don't mind editing the .list if that helps :) |
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| 13:24.54 | GPenguin | after writing the Debian 8 install ISO to my pen drive (via cp) i tried opening it in gparted and it complains about block size and then the patition sizes dont match when i ignore it |
| 13:25.10 | GPenguin | what can i do about this so the empty space can be used? |
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| 13:25.36 | ChrisH | GPenguin: from my unerstanding: nothing, but get a smaller stick |
| 13:26.04 | jelly | kn0cker: you might delete the affected path /usr/share/doc/libc6/NEWS.gz from those two files: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6:{amd64,i386}.list |
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| 13:27.49 | kn0cker | jelly: does it need to be deleted? or can I prefix with #? |
| 13:27.53 | kn0cker | to comment out |
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| 13:29.50 | jhutchins | kn0cker: # works for comments. |
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| 13:30.19 | themill | does it? |
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| 13:32.34 | kn0cker | i guess I should start preparing myself for jessie... |
| 13:33.45 | deepy\ddpp | Only if you enjoy systemd |
| 13:33.57 | themill | deepy\ddpp: both unhelpful and untrue. |
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| 13:34.31 | deepy\ddpp | themill: I beg to differ, I'm using jessie with sysv-init and there's still parts of systemd running |
| 13:34.44 | themill | no |
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| 13:35.02 | deepy\ddpp | Explain to me the usage of systemd-shim |
| 13:35.18 | themill | systemd-shim is not systemd... that's the whole point of it |
| 13:35.31 | deepy\ddpp | The systemd-shim is to be able to use parts of systemd without using the whole deal |
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| 13:35.55 | themill | the same bits that you've been using with the name "consolekit" for the last few releases... yay... what progress. |
| 13:36.15 | deepy\ddpp | I've been using BSD for the last few releases, so no, not really |
| 13:36.18 | kn0cker | see, now you're talking waaaay over my head with systemd etc :) so deepy\ddpp you recommend staying with wheezy? |
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| 13:36.31 | deepy\ddpp | kn0cker: no, if you've got no feelings about systemd then go ahead |
| 13:36.48 | deepy\ddpp | kn0cker: but the cool thing today is to hate about systemd, so you should buy one of those T-shirts and harass the developers until they remove the stupid binary log format |
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| 13:36.55 | themill | deepy\ddpp: so you don't even know where the code comes from but still want to rant about it. Brilliant. |
| 13:37.09 | jhutchins | On my upgraded system there doesn't seem to be any way to restart networking. Niether systemctl nor the init script actually do anything. ifdown/up works, but the scripts don't. |
| 13:37.30 | themill | jhutchins: there's no such thing as "restart networking". Networking is not a daemon. |
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| 13:37.39 | deepy\ddpp | themill: this really isn't the place to discuss that, want to take it elsewhere? |
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| 13:37.47 | Agiofws | hello |
| 13:37.50 | deepy\ddpp | Whoa that came out hostile, I mean, pm is fine for me |
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| 13:37.53 | themill | no. I got bored with systemd haters a while ago |
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| 13:38.36 | kn0cker | I'll try it for a while in a vm.. before making a decision |
| 13:38.40 | Agiofws | once upon a time i upgraded somehow my kernel but now it does not want to suspend my machine when it '''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''']]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] |
| 13:39.13 | deepy\ddpp | kn0cker: if you've not really got an opinion about it, it'll make no difference to you |
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| 13:40.12 | Agiofws | once upon a time i upgraded somehow my kernel but now it does not want to suspend my machine when it 'tries' to wake up... is there anyway i can uninstall the newer kernel that was installed and leave me with the old one? (the second one thats in grub list?) |
| 13:40.20 | kn0cker | deepy\ddpp: I don't :) but I do prefer testing distros (also new versions) in vm first |
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| 13:41.19 | jhutchins | Agiofws: You can change the default in /etc/default/grub |
| 13:41.33 | jhutchins | Agiofws: Run update-grub after you make changes. |
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| 13:42.05 | Agiofws | jhutchins, i prefer 'downgrading' through synaptic first |
| 13:42.09 | jhutchins | Agiofws: You can also track down your chipset and figure out what hardware accomadations you can make for the kernel you have. |
| 13:42.16 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 13:42.17 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
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| 13:43.11 | Agiofws | jhutchins, how can i track down my chipset? |
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| 13:44.36 | Agiofws | or where is menu.lst in grub ? |
| 13:44.49 | abrotman | /etc/default/grub |
| 13:45.31 | GPenguin | haha, nice. "please install sudo and re-run YUMI". but i was starting it as root |
| 13:45.34 | Agiofws | no kernel lines in there |
| 13:45.52 | moty66 | is there a way to concatenate directories with find command? I want to make svn up to all httpdocs/plugins, but with find I can search only one directory |
| 13:46.20 | jhutchins | Agiofws: the actual /boot/grub/grub.cfg is generated by update-grub. |
| 13:46.27 | moty66 | i was thinging to do something like find /var/www -type d -name "httpdocs/plugins" --print | xargs svn up |
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| 13:46.35 | moty66 | thinking* |
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| 13:47.28 | Agiofws | linux/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae root=UUID=d94e33d7-1861-479 |
| 13:47.29 | Agiofws | 2-8c71-45531a7a2df9 ro quiet this is there kernel that is not suspending my machine anymore jhuebner |
| 13:47.36 | Agiofws | jhutchins, ^ |
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| 13:48.09 | Agiofws | /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-686-pae <--- that one works |
| 13:48.30 | jelly | kn0cker: sorry, was away. definitely delete the line(s) |
| 13:48.33 | Agiofws | what should ido can't i uninstall through synaptic? |
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| 13:48.44 | Agiofws | or something? |
| 13:48.48 | jhutchins | Agiofws: As you can see above, there is a newer 3.16 available. |
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| 13:49.40 | Agiofws | ok how do i upgrade to that? |
| 13:49.49 | Agiofws | through synaptic? |
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| 13:50.23 | jhutchins | Agiofws: aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade |
| 13:50.53 | jhutchins | Agiofws: lshw and lspci will tell you things about your hardware. |
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| 13:51.01 | Agiofws | jhutchins, everything in synaptic is up to date |
| 13:51.07 | themill | jhutchins: what do you base that comment about newer kernels on? |
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| 13:51.44 | no_gravity | hello! i have a file in /etc/init.d/ called fancontrol.dpgk-bak |
| 13:51.49 | no_gravity | is that executed on startup? |
| 13:52.00 | jelly | nope |
| 13:52.15 | no_gravity | do i have to rename it to "fancontrol"? |
| 13:52.17 | bsdtux | I believe anything with an s## will be initiated on startup |
| 13:52.20 | Agiofws | ,kernels |
| 13:52.21 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
| 13:53.00 | kn0cker | jelly: same issues after deleting the line |
| 13:53.06 | jelly | no_gravity: it was renamed because it got replaced by a newer version, or something else, during an upgrade or installation procedure. |
| 13:53.06 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.07 | bsdtux | no_gravity should have started out by asking are you using systemd |
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| 13:53.26 | jelly | kn0cker: with the same path in output, or a different one? |
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| 13:53.37 | no_gravity | jelly: hmm.. but there is no other file called fancontrol in /etc/init.d/ |
| 13:53.51 | themill | no_gravity: do you have the package "fancontrol" installed? |
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| 13:54.04 | no_gravity | when i start "fancontrol" manually, the fans go quiet. i want that from the start. |
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| 13:54.18 | no_gravity | themill: i guess so, because i can start fancontrol manually. |
| 13:54.45 | kn0cker | jelly: nope, this time it's /usr/share/doc/libc6/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 13:54.46 | moty66 | is it a good idea to run a command like this one? find /var/www/vhosts -type d -path "*/dconfig/Ext" -print | xargs svn up |
| 13:54.47 | themill | no_gravity: indeed. Which release of debian is this? |
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| 13:55.15 | kn0cker | but I got to run... kindergarten get's so pissed of if I forget to pick up the little hooligans |
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| 13:55.45 | jelly | kn0cker: repeat until it doesn't complain any more (probably take out everything from inside /usr/share/doc/libc6/) |
| 13:56.16 | kn0cker | jelly: i'll look into that later today.. thanks for all the help so far! |
| 13:56.47 | kn0cker | really appreciate constructive answers and not the "rm -Rf /" that a lot of people find very funny |
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| 13:57.09 | no_gravity | i will try to rename it to "fancontrol" and reboot... |
| 13:57.35 | no_gravity | is all that stuff in /etc/init.d/ executed on startup? |
| 13:57.56 | themill | no_gravity: no. What release of debian is this? |
| 13:57.58 | jelly | no_gravity: yes, if there's no overriding native systemd service |
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| 13:58.12 | jelly | heh |
| 13:58.24 | no_gravity | oh, maybe i have to do " |
| 13:58.31 | no_gravity | "update-rc.d fancontrol defaults 99 01" |
| 13:58.31 | themill | there needs also to be a symlink from rcX.d |
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| 13:58.42 | no_gravity | that seems to have created a bunch of symlinks |
| 13:58.58 | themill | no_gravity: seriously... the answers are different depending on which release of debian you're running |
| 13:59.14 | no_gravity | ok, i will reboot now. wish me luck :) |
| 13:59.31 | no_gravity | its debian 7 i think |
| 13:59.38 | no_gravity | rebooting... |
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| 13:59.58 | Agiofws | themill, how can i remove bdo kernel from my system before i upgrade to jessie? |
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| 14:01.00 | themill | Agiofws: the opposite way you installed it. You need to not be running the kernel before trying to remove it. It's also not requried that you remove it before you upgrade |
| 14:01.43 | Agiofws | The upgrade process described in this chapter has been designed for upgrades from pure wheezy systems without third-party packages. |
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| 14:02.34 | themill | Agiofws: upgrades where packages from backports.debian.org are installed are generally safe. (The upgrade path is automatically tested etc) |
| 14:02.41 | jelly | Agiofws: the bdo people have made some reasonable choices that result in you usually not having to remove bdo packages before a release upgrade |
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| 14:02.56 | Agiofws | ok |
| 14:03.12 | jelly | (but you have to remove the old wheezy-backports sources.list lines) |
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| 14:11.20 | Agiofws | jelly, can you take a look at my source list ? http://pastebin.com/RcitLufE ? |
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| 14:13.17 | jelly | looks like a sane wheezy sources.list |
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| 14:14.22 | SuperTramp83 | without contrib and non-free it would look like a sane sources.list |
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| 14:16.09 | veek | anyway around the sloppy option bug for autofs.. i'm using an ntfs filesystem and -s is being passed and i get >> ntfs-3g: Unknown option '-s'. when it does mount_mount: mount(generic): calling mount -t ntfs-3g -s -o user,exec /dev/sda4 /my/sda4 |
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| 14:17.30 | Agiofws | jelly, do i replace wheezy with jessie in that source list file? |
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| 14:17.45 | jelly | SuperTramp83: apologies, I lie on the pragmatic side of that useless debate. |
| 14:17.58 | jelly | dpkg, wheezy->jessie |
| 14:17.58 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also <jessie sysvinit>. |
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| 14:18.39 | jelly | Agiofws: ^^ I strongly suggest reading that bit of jessie release notes first |
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| 14:23.58 | Agiofws | jelly, do i have a 3rd part repo? 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also <jessie sysvinit>. ? |
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| 14:25.44 | jelly | Agiofws: you do not |
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| 14:27.22 | jelly | Agiofws: I'd comment out wheezy-backports (maybe even not needed), then proceed with replacing all "wheezy" with "jessie". You can uncomment jessie-backports later after the release upgrade is done. |
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| 14:37.05 | gfsh | is anyone running debian-testing on a day-to-day as their main OS? |
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| 14:37.45 | jhutchins | gfsh: You'll find more testing users in #debian-next on oftc.net |
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| 14:41.12 | veek | i'm getting an io error with ntfs-3g on jessie - any fix for this? can i downgrade? disk is fine |
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| 14:42.11 | kyle__ | veek: It's got ntfs on it. That's never fine :P |
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| 14:42.38 | kyle__ | veek: I haven't tried it with jessie yet, but if it's having problems, mount it without a journal (I forget the flag), or use the fuse driver |
| 14:43.06 | veek | okay let me check |
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| 14:44.05 | veek | ntfs-3g -o ro /dev/sda4 /my/sda4 deathstar> ls /my/sda4 ls: cannot access /my/sda4: Input/output error |
| 14:44.11 | vegardx | Or mount it in Windows and let it "fix" it. |
| 14:44.23 | veek | i did that it works in windows just fine |
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| 14:44.40 | vegardx | Did you go into disk utility and repair the drive as well? |
| 14:45.09 | veek | ah hmm.. nope.. okay let me reboot and do that good idea - thanks |
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| 14:57.00 | jelly | is there a way to tell sort if the field to sort by is identical, keep the original order? |
| 14:57.44 | themill | --stable |
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| 15:02.24 | jelly | -s seems to work, thanks |
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| 15:03.37 | themill | np. It's one of those cases where the description of the option is unhelpful, but "stable sort" is what you want |
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| 15:06.52 | veek | okay i checked my partitions and there's a problem.. winXP can't complete the check on sda4 and in linux i get Checking the alternate boot sector... BAD |
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| 15:07.09 | veek | what do i do |
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| 15:08.29 | aleray | Hi, I can't manage to install mysql on my new debian 8 server. I run `apt-get install mysql-server` then I'm prompted to enter an optionnal root password which I skip and then I get thie error: http://dpaste.com/10HHQHJ |
| 15:08.53 | aleray | here is also the log for `journalctl -xn`: http://dpaste.com/10HHQHJ |
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| 15:11.18 | pvoigt | I am planing to buy a Thinkpad W541. Will I be able to install Debian Jessie from debian-8.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso via USB stick? |
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| 15:12.25 | vegardx | Very likely |
| 15:13.12 | pvoigt | I have heard about the need to disable UEFI on a W540. Is this true for the W541? |
| 15:14.56 | vegardx | Try? |
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| 15:17.33 | pvoigt | Yeah, the UEFI thing can be tried. I am more asking because of possible other caveats^^ |
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| 15:19.07 | roberth1990 | anyone here who has installed jessie on a server at scaleway? |
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| 15:19.48 | pvoigt | roberth1990: Is "scaleway" a vserver provider? |
| 15:20.17 | roberth1990 | pvoigt: yes |
| 15:20.36 | roberth1990 | not a vserver, but a regular bare metal server |
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| 15:21.20 | pvoigt | roberth1990: OK, have just recently installed Jessie on a vserver - but unfortunately not at scaleway. |
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| 15:21.58 | roberth1990 | yeah scaleway has a special sollution for installing the os on the server |
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| 15:22.25 | p3rror | hello |
| 15:22.36 | p3rror | I need to print only digit |
| 15:22.51 | p3rror | from a file that contain number ans strings |
| 15:22.52 | pvoigt | My provider offers qemu/kvm with RDP. |
| 15:22.54 | p3rror | example |
| 15:23.07 | p3rror | I need to print only 12 |
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| 15:25.55 | Iridos | p3rror, sounds weird |
| 15:26.02 | Iridos | or like homework |
| 15:26.18 | pvoigt | aleray: I have got MySQL installed on my vserver. But I got it installed automatically during ownCloud installation. |
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| 15:36.14 | pvoigt | aleray: I am having a Jessie VM for my future laptop. Just let my try to install mysql-server... |
| 15:36.32 | pvoigt | aleray: I am having a Jessie VM for my future laptop. Just let my try to install mysql-server... |
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| 15:37.02 | pvoigt | aleray: I am having a Jessie VM for my future laptop. Just let my try to install mysql-server... |
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| 15:39.10 | pvoigt | Sorry for repeated message...screen was scrolled^^ |
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| 15:39.49 | itry | hello! how can i stop the fancontrol demon? |
| 15:40.22 | itry | oh, "service fancontrol stop" seems to have stopped it. |
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| 15:41.37 | pvoigt | aleray: "apt-get install mysql-server" finished smoothley on my machine. |
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| 15:43.41 | jhutchins | p3rror: You will want to read up on awk and sed and learn regular expressions. |
| 15:44.11 | erfw | Lets say I have quite a few logfiles with lots of data. I want to find identical strings (MAC addresses) across multiple files. how? |
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| 15:44.42 | jhutchins | erfw: egrep, and again regular expressions. |
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| 15:45.54 | erfw | jhutchins: example please :) |
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| 15:53.49 | jhutchins | !grep |
| 15:53.49 | dpkg | grep (global / regular expression / print) is a command line text search utility. It searches one or more input files for lines containing a match to a specified pattern, printing the matching lines by default. http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/manual/ http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/ (GNU grep, egrep and fgrep) #grep on irc.freenode.net. |
| 15:54.15 | quarterback | Anybody familiar with goaccess webserver logs here? it seems like the report is not generated everytime, is there a limit to the number of reports generated and can the same log be used to update the html report in every cronjob? |
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| 15:57.00 | itry | fancontrol says it reads from hwmon2/temp2_input - is it possible to read that manually and see what it provides? |
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| 16:10.44 | wCPO_ | jhutchins: I'm trying to build a ubuntu image with live-build, but I can't get the cmdline keyboard layout option to work |
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| 16:30.47 | p3rror | I need to print the content that exist in the file 1 and that not exists in file 2 |
| 16:31.06 | p3rror | stanley: no not diff |
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| 16:39.45 | brontosaurusrex | diff -e 1 2 |
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| 16:45.17 | brontosaurusrex | or diff -n 2 1 | tail -1 |
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| 16:57.54 | p3rror | if ! grep $ar file |
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| 16:58.35 | greycat | if it's a fixed string you might want to use -F |
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| 17:40.31 | JohnnyL | http://pastebin.com/uAUkRYSX any ideas? |
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| 17:43.50 | centrx | JohnnyL, Wrong version of Python? |
| 17:43.56 | centrx | or a Python library? |
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| 17:46.30 | JohnnyL | ok. |
| 17:46.35 | JohnnyL | i just installed debian. |
| 17:46.39 | JohnnyL | what should i do next? |
| 17:46.49 | JohnnyL | i can't pair. |
| 17:47.02 | JohnnyL | i didn't have bluetooth dongle when installing. |
| 17:47.13 | JohnnyL | (to sata) |
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| 17:53.10 | centrx | JohnnyL, Have you tried searching for the error message online? |
| 17:54.15 | JohnnyL | centrx: no |
| 17:54.58 | FatDarrel | hey guys |
| 17:55.01 | FatDarrel | anyone around? |
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| 17:56.47 | centrx | !ask |
| 17:56.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 18:08.13 | fornax | Hi, I use debian jessie and want to use fail2ban but I'm stuck while configuring the service since debian uses journalctl and I have to add paths to my sytem logs. Does anyone have an idea how to configure fail2ban with journalctl? |
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| 18:12.49 | ziGuy | Guys, small S.O.S. i've just try to update from wheezy to jessie and something went wrong with my windows manager. i've got no titles for the windows, cannot switch between them. reinstalled gdm3, gnome-panel and gnome-sessions are installed |
| 18:13.16 | c0de1 | besides rpi, are there any arm debian images? |
| 18:13.19 | c0de1 | that can be run under qemu |
| 18:14.04 | mtn | ziGuy: make a new user, login as new user. does it work ok? |
| 18:14.21 | SynrG | ziGuy: were there any errors during the upgrade? |
| 18:15.05 | SynrG | ziGuy: and did you upgrade fully, i.e. with 'apt-get dist-upgrade' or 'aptitude full-upgrade'? |
| 18:15.17 | ziGuy | yes i've got some errors, i'll try to paste apt error log, it's just difficult to navigate so give me a minute |
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| 18:15.31 | SynrG | ziGuy: if you didn't resolve those, then you are probably only half-upgraded. |
| 18:15.39 | SynrG | ziGuy: all kinds of things can go wrong now until you solve it |
| 18:15.52 | ziGuy | iknow i'm on the old kernel |
| 18:16.37 | ziGuy | i've changed wheezy to jessie on the source.list, did update, then upgrade, then dist-upgrade |
| 18:16.43 | SynrG | logging out and in again and/or rebooting is exactly what *not* to do halfway through the upgrade :p |
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| 18:17.04 | ziGuy | oops |
| 18:17.15 | SynrG | ah well. found out the hard way :) |
| 18:17.23 | ziGuy | :) |
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| 18:21.25 | jhutchins | fornax: Are you installing it from the debian repositories? |
| 18:21.35 | fornax | yes |
| 18:22.01 | jhutchins | fornax: That's odd, you would expect it to have reasonable defaults. Jessie? |
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| 18:22.03 | fornax | version 0.8.13-1 |
| 18:22.10 | jhutchins | ,v fail2ban |
| 18:22.12 | judd | Package: fail2ban on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2; squeeze: 0.8.4-3+squeeze2; squeeze-security-lts: 0.8.4-3+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 0.8.6-3wheezy1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; wheezy-security: 0.8.6-3wheezy3; jessie: 0.8.13-1; stretch: 0.9.2-1; sid: 0.9.2-1 |
| 18:22.13 | fornax | Yes |
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| 18:23.10 | jhutchins | fornax: Do you require anonymous access to your ssh/scp system? |
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| 18:23.44 | fornax | jhutchins: No, does anyone ever need this? |
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| 18:24.35 | jhutchins | fornax: I suggest that you run it on an arbitrary port then. Anybody who needs access has to get credentials from you anyway, you can provide the port at the same time. |
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| 18:25.01 | jhutchins | fornax: You'll see a vast reduction in brute force attacks, although we have seen a few on 222 recently. |
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| 18:25.24 | jhutchins | fornax: Another thing you can do is use IPTables throttling feature - although setting up IPTables just for that is overkill. |
| 18:25.55 | fornax | jhutchins: Yes, this is an other level of security. It is already not possible to use pasword auth, but I do not want to protect only ssh |
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| 18:27.48 | fornax | jhutchins: This is a setup, which I want to deploy to several debian containers which I want to upgrade automatically, it would be nice to have it working with the default debian packages. I looks like the fail2ban version in jessie is to old to support systemd |
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| 18:28.05 | ergb | how do I find files with similar entries? |
| 18:28.27 | ergb | or similar strings in two files |
| 18:28.29 | greycat | (a) what's an "entry", (b) similar to what? |
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| 18:28.52 | ergb | well, lets say I have fifteen auth.logs |
| 18:28.56 | ziGuy | i can't find anything usefull on aptitue/apt logs. tried to restore source.list and reupgrade without luck |
| 18:28.59 | jhutchins | fornax: Yeah, that kind of sloppyness is pretty rare in debian (it's what killed Mandriva, among other problems). |
| 18:29.07 | ergb | i want to see which IP(s) are present in all of them |
| 18:29.18 | cybrNaut | gnucash breaks ledger in jessie <= warning to anyone going to dist-upgrade! |
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| 18:29.24 | ziGuy | you think it's might be something with the user? login with a new account will help? |
| 18:29.34 | greycat | ergb: well, step one would be to extract the IP addresses |
| 18:29.43 | jhutchins | fornax: systemd is a really big jump, a lot of stuff that looked like it would be fine isn't. |
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| 18:30.30 | ergb | greycat: actually, these are not auth.logs and what I am looking for is MAC addresses |
| 18:30.43 | greycat | After that, it's a moderately challenging programming exercise to write a program that reads 15 input files and prints the lines that appear in all 15 files. |
| 18:30.45 | fornax | jhutchins: It' s a pity that there are so many incompatible things. I switched from gentoo to debian on a few machines but now I see more and more that some easy things are not working |
| 18:31.09 | ziGuy | if you can help me just fixing my window manager for now it would be a great deal |
| 18:31.25 | greycat | ergb: well, step one would be to extract the MAC addresses |
| 18:31.28 | greycat | After that, it's a moderately challenging programming exercise to write a program that reads 15 input files and prints the lines that appear in all 15 files. |
| 18:31.30 | mtn | ziGuy: try it with a new user |
| 18:32.15 | ergb | greycat: cannot be done with standard tools? diff, sort, etc? |
| 18:32.27 | greycat | If you're a complete masochist? Maybe. |
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| 18:32.39 | greycat | Is that easier than just writing a program in whatever language you know? |
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| 18:32.57 | jhutchins | Probably something in perl. |
| 18:33.04 | ziGuy | ok, i'll also reboot, if i won't be back you should know i love you all and won't fall back to MS windows. |
| 18:33.16 | greycat | Any programming language that has hashes or associative arrays should do just fine. |
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| 18:33.29 | netforce__ | hi guys |
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| 18:33.37 | netforce__ | i am trying singing my mails with dkim |
| 18:33.43 | netforce__ | does anyone faced with this |
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| 18:33.55 | greycat | I like that typo. |
| 18:34.05 | at0m|c | ^ |
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| 18:34.21 | jhutchins | pictures a festival/midi setup to sing email... |
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| 18:35.26 | greycat | As long as it has a chorus of vikings singing "Spam Spam Spam Spam".... |
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| 18:35.51 | fornax | netforce__: I also tried to setup dkim today. The setup seems to work but I did not test it in detail today |
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| 18:36.50 | jhutchins | netforce__: I think it matters which mailer you're using. |
| 18:37.26 | jhutchins | netforce__: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-and-configure-dkim-with-postfix-on-debian-wheezy |
| 18:37.34 | at0m|c | less so than the email host, but mkay OT |
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| 18:39.50 | roberth1990 | is the default way wired network cards are set up started with network.service in jessie? |
| 18:40.26 | netforce__ | jhutchins, i using php(zend mail) to send email |
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| 18:48.42 | sambane | hello, Good evening, which kernel does V7.8 use please :-) |
| 18:48.59 | greycat | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 18:49.00 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; stretch: 3.16+63; sid: 4.0+64 |
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| 18:50.27 | sambane | judd: oh ok :-D I'm trying to install it on KVM and the system asks me whether I should select a 3.x /2.6 kernel or a 2.4 -> I think it's the first right? :) |
| 18:51.14 | ergb | 2.4 for sure :P |
| 18:51.23 | sambane | oh wow ok! |
| 18:51.41 | ergb | sambane: sarcasm alert |
| 18:51.42 | sambane | thanks :-) |
| 18:51.47 | sambane | ohhhh meh |
| 18:51.49 | sambane | :) |
| 18:51.57 | sambane | right so yeah - ok |
| 18:52.01 | sambane | 2.6 |
| 18:52.23 | sambane | "/3.x" |
| 18:52.25 | ergb | for what? |
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| 18:52.35 | greycat | I don't understand the question OR the answers, sarcastic as they were. |
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| 18:53.01 | ergb | does apt keep track of *when* a package was installed? |
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| 18:53.39 | ergb | or if it was installed manually or through a metapackage? |
| 18:54.21 | sambane | oh ok - I'm trying to install Debian 7 on a KVM Virtual Machine -> Proxmox was asking me whether I should select a 3.x/2.6 kernel or a 2.4 - I think I have the answer in it being the 3.x/2.6 kernel anyway :) |
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| 18:54.34 | ergb | sambane: yes |
| 18:54.42 | sambane | thank you very much all :) |
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| 18:55.12 | sambane | could I just ask - does Debian install any dependencies it needs like CentOS does? |
| 18:55.28 | sambane | scenario - I download a program - the system doesn't have what it needs |
| 18:55.30 | greycat | when you use apt-get or aptitude to select a package, yes, it will retrieve dependencies as well |
| 18:55.32 | jolt | sambane: if you use something like aptitude, sure! |
| 18:56.01 | sambane | brilliant - I heard you lot are a deliberately friendly bunch when Linux can be a little harsh to newbies |
| 18:56.21 | sambane | so it made me feel like I might be able to make my home with you |
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| 18:56.41 | jolt | sambane: No worries! Give it 10 quick years and you'll be an expert too! |
| 18:56.53 | sambane | jolt: yes, I could never profess to learn overnight!! |
| 18:57.06 | sambane | hopefully you're docs are a bit more friendly to newbies! |
| 18:57.10 | sambane | "idiot proof" |
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| 18:57.18 | sambane | your* |
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| 18:58.22 | sambane | i'm looking to install iredmail and they recommend Debian 7 Wheezy for SoGo Groupware to work well - i'm not getting confused between some sort of server edition am I? |
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| 18:59.38 | greycat | There is no "server edition". You just install Debian, and elect not to install the desktop packages that you don't need if it's intended to be a server. |
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| 19:01.38 | jhutchins | sambane: If you install a properly built package from outside the repositories, it will make note of any missing dependencies, and aptitude -f install will correct them. Pretty slick system. |
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| 19:01.41 | ergb | How do I check when a package was installed and whether or not it was manually installed? |
| 19:01.45 | jelly | sambane: we're only friendly with some people! |
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| 19:02.09 | jelly | usually those who show their work |
| 19:02.18 | wdoekes_ | ergb: apt-mark showmanual |
| 19:02.51 | sambane | jhutchins: sweet :) |
| 19:02.51 | wdoekes_ | as for when, not sure if that's stored anywhere |
| 19:02.56 | jhutchins | ergb: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/12578/list-packages-by-installation-date |
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| 19:03.22 | sheap | is there a way to check which init system is being used as default in the installation process? |
| 19:03.45 | jhutchins | sheap: What are you installing and how? |
| 19:03.47 | greycat | 'check'? |
| 19:03.52 | greycat | Did you mean "specify"? |
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| 19:04.18 | jhutchins | I think he meant find out or determine. |
| 19:04.28 | sheap | no check, I have a package that either installs a systemd service file or an init script depending on what init system is being used |
| 19:04.37 | greycat | If it's jessie, the default is systemd. If it's anything else, sysvinit. Easy! |
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| 19:04.52 | greycat | Oh. You didn't mean the installation of the OS. |
| 19:04.57 | greycat | You mean a package's post-install script or something. |
| 19:04.58 | jelly | s/jessie/jessie or anything newer/; |
| 19:05.01 | jhutchins | sheap: In that case it should be able to check on installation for itself. |
| 19:05.24 | sheap | greycat: it's a package that is installed when the OS is being installed (through d-i) |
| 19:05.40 | sheap | but i might just use the lsb_release stuff to figure it out |
| 19:05.41 | greycat | If your question is "I am writing a package and ..." rather than "I am installing Debian and ..." then you need to say that. |
| 19:06.12 | jelly | sheap: but it will get its dpkg -i after the init system is installed already |
| 19:06.15 | jhutchins | sheap: Like I said, it should be packaged in such a way as to figure that out for itself, but with the full release we're starting to see packages that aren't really systemd ready. |
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| 19:08.50 | jelly | sheap: many packages ship both an init script and a systemd service definition, does yours have to do anything more? |
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| 19:10.14 | sheap | jelly: im trying to figure out how to choose which one to install |
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| 19:10.24 | jelly | sheap: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd/Packaging has pointers |
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| 19:11.21 | jelly | sheap: you install both, make sure they're named appropriately -- if systemd is active the service unit with same base name will override the init script (read the wiki page) |
| 19:12.04 | jelly | esp. https://wiki.debian.org/systemd/Packaging#systemd_unit_files_naming_and_installation |
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| 19:13.24 | sheap | jelly: thanks, but if systemd isn't installed then doing systemctl enable x.service will fail, wont it? |
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| 19:14.29 | jelly | sheap: dh will manage the boilerplate for you |
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| 19:14.59 | jelly | are you writing install script manually? |
| 19:15.02 | jelly | scripts* |
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| 19:16.53 | sheap | jelly: the postinst part? |
| 19:17.17 | sheap | sorry I'm not really an expert on packaging, I've been using dpkg-deb -b my_package/ |
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| 19:17.24 | sheap | so I'll have to learn the dh way |
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| 19:18.19 | jelly | oh. |
| 19:18.34 | jelly | dpkg, tell sheap about nmg |
| 19:18.39 | jelly | dpkg, tell sheap about mentors |
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| 19:20.06 | jelly | sheap: until you set up a proper source package, why not steal the generated boilerplate from some other service-bringing deb |
| 19:20.49 | ryouma | i am confused about the relation between "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc", "grub-install", and anything else that dpkg-reconfigure does relating to grub or initrd. can somebody explain briefly (in not too technical terms)? |
| 19:21.36 | sheap | jelly: true, I'll have to learn it anyway so might as well go now |
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| 19:22.50 | ryouma | for example, is it safe to run "grub-install" and "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" more or less interchangeably on your main drive? what happens if you only specify one drive to install to? does it get uninstalled from other drives? |
| 19:23.56 | greycat | if you modify grub configs, you should run "update-grub" |
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| 19:26.38 | ryouma | what commands does "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" call? |
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| 19:38.48 | Hobbyboy | I'm having a problem with my Debian 8 virtual machine. I installed the Virtualbox guest additions, and now it keeps starting up in rescue mode |
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| 19:45.49 | nkuttler | Hobbyboy: hm. do you see the bootloader? |
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| 19:47.00 | jmd | After upgrading to Debian 8, my NFS mounts always fail to mount at boot |
| 19:47.00 | jmd | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.00 | jmd | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.00 | jmd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:47.58 | jmd | This channels policies are bizarre |
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| 19:53.02 | Hobbyboy | nkuttler: Yes |
| 19:53.19 | Hobbyboy | I've managed to sort it now, turned out it kept trying to mount a cdrom when there wasn't one there |
| 19:53.28 | nkuttler | Hobbyboy: great |
| 19:53.41 | Hobbyboy | but, I cannot get the VirtualBox guest additions working |
| 19:53.57 | nkuttler | Hobbyboy: did you apt-get install them inside the vm? |
| 19:54.06 | Hobbyboy | yes |
| 19:54.10 | nkuttler | Hobbyboy: what is your host os? |
| 19:54.22 | Hobbyboy | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 |
| 19:54.45 | nkuttler | Hobbyboy: you might have incompatible versions. afaik the guest additions have to match the host's virtualbox version |
| 19:54.57 | nkuttler | at least for some stuff |
| 19:55.26 | nkuttler | jmd: can you paste.debian.net the relevant logs/errors? |
| 19:55.32 | Hobbyboy | I know that the additions I have won't install the video driver in debian |
| 19:56.26 | Hobbyboy | something else i've noticed - tab completion doesn't work in cdroms |
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| 19:57.03 | nkuttler | in cdroms? |
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| 19:57.23 | Hobbyboy | /media/cdrom |
| 19:57.27 | jmd | nkuttler: No. Because the last thing it does after booting is to clear the screen. |
| 19:57.39 | jmd | And there is nothing in dmesg or syslog |
| 19:57.41 | nkuttler | jmd: well check your logs |
| 19:57.50 | nkuttler | jmd: there's this newfangled journalctl thing |
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| 19:58.27 | jmd | Hmm. How do I use it? |
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| 19:59.18 | ryouma | is "dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc" a shell script? where do i find out where it is so that i can try to figure out whether it calls grub-install and whether it removes installations? |
| 19:59.31 | greycat | dpkg-reconfigure is not a shell script |
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| 20:00.12 | greycat | (it's... actually a Perl program) (not that that matters) |
| 20:00.14 | nkuttler | jmd: check http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/journalctl.html i guess |
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| 20:00.48 | greycat | Your starting point to understand what dpkg-reconfigure does should be "man dpkg-reconfigure". |
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| 20:10.33 | jmd | nkuttler: the only relevant message I see is "access denied by server" |
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| 20:12.26 | nkuttler | jmd: when trying to mount a nfs? sounds like you should check on the server |
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| 20:13.13 | jmd | For other clients it works. |
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| 20:13.54 | Hobbyboy | Its annoying that the VirtualBox guest additions are broken since 4.3.16 :/ |
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| 20:13.58 | jhutchins | ryouma: The only thing grub-install does is write the bootsector. THat only needs to happen once, not every time you reconfigure. |
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| 20:15.14 | jhutchins | ryouma: dpkg-reconfigure is a perl script that calls other perl modules. |
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| 20:16.15 | jhutchins | jmd: IIRC there are options for both the client and the server to increase logging levels. You can manually explore the problem with showmount and mount. |
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| 20:17.32 | jmd | jhutchins: The problem is, that when I do it manually everything works fine. It's only at boot time the issue occurs. |
| 20:18.45 | sambane | hello, does anybody in here have a Debian KVM install through Proxmox :-) |
| 20:19.06 | at0m|c | sambane: what's the problem |
| 20:19.11 | sambane | i've just been banging my head against a wall finding a guide that will tell me how to do the static ip setup |
| 20:19.35 | sambane | http://snag.gy/6hHJt.jpg is the contents of /etc/network/interfaces which helps none and doesn't look like the file I need |
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| 20:21.09 | sambane | at0m|c: sorry didn't tag you :) |
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| 20:22.43 | jhutchins | sambane: What release is it? |
| 20:23.06 | sambane | jhutchins: Wheezy :-) |
| 20:23.17 | greycat | starts to paste sambane'e interfaces thingy into lynx, then sees the .jpg and stops |
| 20:23.27 | jhutchins | sambane: It's not somehow using systemd is it? |
| 20:23.31 | nkuttler | jmd: hm.. that's rahter odd. does the auth maybe depend on another service on the client? could you try to connect later? |
| 20:24.03 | sambane | jhutchins: i'm not sure :) Greycat - do you want it in pastebin :-) |
| 20:24.15 | sambane | greycat: can ssh in if you prefer :) |
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| 20:24.33 | jmd | nkuttler: Immediately after boot, I can login as root and mount it without problem. |
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| 20:24.50 | jmd | But during the boot sequence it always fails. |
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| 20:26.18 | jmd | But, yes I think you are probably right. It is likely to be a dependency issue. |
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| 20:27.28 | sambane | fancy seeing you here t3chguy :) |
| 20:27.38 | jmd | For example, nfs-common seems to start *after* the mount fails. |
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| 20:28.25 | greycat | sambane: A static /etc/network/interfaces should look like http://wooledge.org/~greg/bar |
| 20:28.55 | t3chguy | lol sambane |
| 20:29.04 | t3chguy | I could have given you my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:29.08 | t3chguy | now that I think of it |
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| 20:29.18 | t3chguy | since Dedi's and VPSes are bound similarly (statically) |
| 20:30.20 | sambane | oh wow that simple everybody? |
| 20:30.29 | sambane | it won't break the virtual machine no :-) |
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| 20:30.35 | drwbc | Hello everybody |
| 20:31.10 | drwbc | hello |
| 20:31.35 | drwbc | somebody can help me with a problem about raid based in hardware ? |
| 20:32.33 | vegardx | I can help you move away from hardware raid. |
| 20:32.47 | vegardx | Seriously, if you don't need writeback caching, use mdadm. |
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| 20:34.13 | sambane | thanks greycat :-) |
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| 20:34.23 | drwbc | Well actually I have a server with 3 disk based in hardware raid, but I need to install another disk, but the controller don't recognize |
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| 20:34.49 | drwbc | How I can check what happend with my new disc |
| 20:35.02 | drwbc | when I run fdisk -l |
| 20:35.29 | drwbc | I just can see sda |
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| 20:36.16 | drwbc | My controler raid is Adaptec aacraid driver 1.1-7 |
| 20:36.29 | drwbc | but I can use the new disk |
| 20:36.39 | drwbc | can't |
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| 20:46.07 | jhutchins | drwbc: Did you set the new drive up in the BIOS? |
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| 20:46.45 | drwbc | no, because I think that don't need to restart |
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| 20:49.51 | Agiofws | hello |
| 20:50.24 | drwbc | Hello |
| 20:50.41 | Agiofws | can i upgrade from wheezy to jessie through gnome? or do i have to run the commands in a terminal ctrl+alt f1 ? |
| 20:51.15 | drwbc | You need to update sources.list |
| 20:51.37 | Agiofws | i already did that |
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| 20:52.09 | drwbc | So, You need to run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 20:52.28 | centrx | You can use aptitude too |
| 20:52.32 | centrx | I presume |
| 20:52.59 | Agiofws | so no issue if i am running gnome through the upgrade process? |
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| 20:54.03 | centrx | It's probably fine |
| 20:54.09 | centrx | Gnome is a monster, so I can't guarantee it |
| 20:54.15 | centrx | but it's supposed to be fine |
| 20:54.21 | centrx | in general |
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| 20:54.53 | Agiofws | ok |
| 20:55.03 | JohnnyL | What is the first new login screen called and how do i make it autologin into cinnomin? |
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| 20:55.09 | JohnnyL | (in debian 8) |
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| 20:58.25 | centrx | JohnnyL, It's called a "display manager" |
| 20:58.36 | centrx | JohnnyL, For autologin, I think installing 'nodm' will do that for you |
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| 21:01.17 | Agiofws | will i get a new kernel aswell upgrading from wheezy to jessie? |
| 21:02.18 | drwbc | Can somebody help me with information about hardware raid with controller Adaptec aacraid driver 1.1-7 |
| 21:02.29 | drwbc | I need to add another disk |
| 21:02.40 | drwbc | but I don't know How I can do it |
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| 21:05.12 | acz32 | Agiofws: 3.16 |
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| 21:10.56 | av0idz | hi there |
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| 21:11.36 | av0idz | i have recently set up a few server reaching from file to web to mail server and so on, now my boss asks to build a graphical roadmap of everything that was set up |
| 21:11.49 | av0idz | is there any open source tool out there to accomplish such stuff ? |
| 21:11.56 | av0idz | maybe especially for debian systems ? |
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| 21:12.15 | av0idz | i cant think of any as also my google search terms lead to x window systems :D |
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| 21:12.55 | greycat | Draw a diagram with pencil and paper, and scan it in. |
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| 21:13.38 | av0idz | hehe :) yes i will do this if i dont find any alternative to do this task, though if there is an digital option i tend to use that |
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| 21:20.02 | jhutchins | av0idz: Probabaly Dia, but here are some alternatives: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/five-apps/five-free-apps-for-diagramming-your-network/ |
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| 21:20.54 | jhutchins | My last boss was crazy for Visio diagrams. Everything needed a diagram. "It's a server. It receives files. We got rid of the multi-layer cluster." Nope, he had a diagram, he wants it updated. |
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| 21:33.32 | av0idz | jhutchins i know what you mean |
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| 21:33.52 | av0idz | though i think i can ignore that request he is also happy about some status reports via mail :) |
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| 21:39.23 | srg | Why is it that windows running inside virtualbox (debian as the host) is _so_ damn slow? |
| 21:39.41 | treefiddy_ | how much video ram did you allocate |
| 21:39.41 | srg | I'm starting to suspect I have a config option wrong or something is going on that is making it run so slow. |
| 21:39.50 | srg | let me check |
| 21:40.05 | srg | 64 MB, with only 2D accel |
| 21:40.11 | srg | not 3D |
| 21:40.11 | treefiddy_ | i noticed win10 runs slow even with the max 128mb |
| 21:40.16 | srg | hmm |
| 21:40.22 | srg | This is Win7 |
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| 21:49.27 | i5513 | hello, after dist-upgrade , today gnome won't start fine. Gnome display a warning message in a xmessage display which have a button with "logout". But the xmessage window is closed before I can investigate what is happening on the system |
| 21:50.42 | i5513 | Do you know where gnome does now store its logs ? I did not find logs at .cache/gdm/session.log , .xsession-error, or similar |
| 21:50.57 | Nik05 | i5513 and you are running sid? |
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| 21:51.39 | Nik05 | i5513 or from wheezy to jessie? |
| 21:51.52 | i5513 | at sid |
| 21:51.53 | i5513 | yes |
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| 21:52.42 | Nik05 | there is a testing channel on oftc |
| 21:52.46 | i5513 | upgraded sid to today, after recover an unexpected removed linux-image / gnome-core packages |
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| 21:53.17 | i5513 | #debian-next ? ohh |
| 21:53.31 | andril | hello |
| 21:53.33 | i5513 | I did not see such channel never, I have to read :) |
| 21:53.39 | i5513 | sorry, I will go there |
| 21:54.00 | Nik05 | i5513 i dont know, maybe you can ask here but that is specifically for testing/sid |
| 21:54.47 | i5513 | mmm seems like debian-next is only open with invitation |
| 21:54.58 | i5513 | I'm not a developer |
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| 21:56.41 | Nik05 | i5513 no you can join |
| 21:57.08 | ctmjr | i5513: it is on another network oftc |
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| 21:58.42 | i5513 | ctmjr, ok, thank I did log into such channel now |
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| 22:10.26 | jaggzt | with xautomation's xte, how do I lift my current modifier key? if I have ctrl+shift+something as a keyboard shortcut to run my xte command, ctrl and shift are still down, so when I send "key g" it's sending ctrl-shift-g |
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| 22:15.58 | aexl | hi folks. anybody know where i can find help with icedove? |
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| 22:21.50 | aexl | i have icedove 31.7. i have a greyed out window as soon as i start it. normally it would ask for a pw then. i tried a new profile and the same thing happens. i tried 31.6. will now try to downgrade to 31.5 |
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| 22:26.38 | Onigiri | So I've got a marvell sata card with a pair of drives attached, my bios sees them during boot... however debian doesn't. |
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| 22:27.45 | aexl | Onigiri: lspci? hwinfo? |
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| 22:28.03 | Onigiri | aexl: waiting in pastebinit to finish installing to provide |
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| 22:28.19 | Onigiri | lspci: //paste.debian.net/193629/ |
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| 22:28.57 | Onigiri | The specific card is the one that's on line 177 |
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| 22:30.13 | Onigiri | hwinfo is massive, hmm |
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| 22:31.56 | Onigiri | //paste.debian.net/193635/ for hwinfo --storage-ctrl |
| 22:33.41 | Onigiri | and finally a dmesg: //paste.debian.net/193636/ |
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| 22:40.01 | aexl | 4 drives? |
| 22:41.17 | Onigiri | 2 drives on the marvell card, 1 running the os right now |
| 22:41.36 | Onigiri | If theres a 4th drive hooked up, the bios isn't seeing it. |
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| 22:42.29 | aexl | this seems to be the problem "ata18.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4)" |
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| 22:44.50 | aexl | could you try another kernel. i'm also on jessie but still have the 3.2.68 kernel |
| 22:46.41 | Onigiri | I can certainly give it a shot. |
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| 22:49.19 | aexl | there also seem to be some kernel options but O |
| 22:49.43 | aexl | i'm not so sure about them: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/209454 |
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| 22:57.18 | intothemountains | sudoedit throws a "sudo: mkstemps: permission denied" error, any clue? |
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| 22:57.57 | aexl | Onigiri: in German http://debianforum.de/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=130417 seems the controller doesn't play well with Linux. the suggestion is to deactivate IOMMU in BIOS. |
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| 22:59.58 | aexl | intothemountains: sudo nano foo works? |
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| 23:01.55 | Onigiri | Dang |
| 23:01.58 | intothemountains | aexl: yes |
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| 23:03.14 | frostschutz | Onigiri, I got two ASM1061 cards, $10 apiece, they work fine for me. But they need libata.atapi_passthru16=0 for optical drives, otherwise Linux kernel crashes entirely when you try to rip CD-audio :D |
| 23:03.57 | Onigiri | frostschutz: I'm a bit stuck with this card, as this card is a rare one that has a pair of laptop hdd bays attached to it. |
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| 23:04.52 | frostschutz | ouch. I didn't know laptop hdds needed bays |
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| 23:05.49 | Onigiri | They don't, it's just this is what I have. |
| 23:05.55 | Onigiri | I don't have adapters to put them in the 3.5" bays |
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| 23:06.08 | Onigiri | http://sybausa.com/productInfo.php?iid=1134 It's this card |
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| 23:08.38 | aexl | Onigiri: eh "403 Permission Denied" |
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| 23:09.10 | Onigiri | That's kind of odd, it's the syba SD-PEX40044. |
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| 23:16.25 | aexl | Onigiri: can you deactivate iommu in bios? |
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| 23:19.59 | Achylles | my /home has got messed permissions. How do I apply "umask 022" to it to correct folders to 755 and files to 644? |
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| 23:21.00 | Onigiri | aexl: I can, doing so appears to have made it work. |
| 23:21.21 | Onigiri | Now to see if it actually works for more then a minute. |
| 23:22.04 | intothemountains | Achylles: find ~ -type d -exec chmod 755 '{}' \; && find ~ -type f -exec chmod 644 '{}' \; |
| 23:22.51 | intothemountains | Achylles: anyway, that will mess with the small set of files which are supposed to have exec permission |
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| 23:25.15 | Achylles | intothemountains, Does that command match umask 022? |
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| 23:25.54 | intothemountains | Achylles: well, that sets al directories to 755 and files to 644 |
| 23:26.03 | intothemountains | umask only applies to newly created files |
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| 23:35.51 | enoch | hi all |
| 23:36.14 | enoch | I'm on debian 7 and i need to upgrade libicu to a version >= 49 |
| 23:36.20 | enoch | any suggestions? |
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| 23:37.04 | bambams | Tried to install jessie on my system with encrypted partitions. Grub install failed because 'cryptodisk' wasn't enabled (or along those lines). |
| 23:37.41 | bambams | System should be ready. Just need to get grub installed. Hopefully I can with my current partition layout. |
| 23:38.02 | bambams | I rebooted into rescue mode. I'm just trying to figure out what I need to do and if it's possible as is. |
| 23:38.14 | Achylles | intothemountains, many thx for you help :) |
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| 23:38.58 | enoch | is it possible to install libicu52 from jessie? |
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| 23:43.34 | bambams | Tried adding GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=1 into /etc/default/grub. grub-install /dev/sda still fails with the same error. |
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| 23:48.59 | frostschutz | bambams, is it gpt? |
| 23:49.43 | frostschutz | encrypted /boot complicates things and grub's documentation and error messages could be better... |
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| 23:53.11 | bambams | frostschutz: I'm not sure if it's gpt. I used the TUI installer for the partition layout. |
| 23:54.17 | bambams | frostschutz: parted -l says 'msdos' for both disks. I assume MBR. |
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| 23:56.51 | enoch | should pinning work using the version name? ex: "jessie"? |
| 23:57.12 | valera_rozuvan | Does anyone know why Emacs 24 that comes with Debian doesn't provide links to the source of functions? For example, if you try C-h f tab-to-tab-stop RET . I have installed the package "emacs24-common-non-dfsg", but no luck... |
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| 23:58.51 | themill | enoch: it can, yes. But beware of jessie-updates. |
| 23:59.02 | bambams | valera_rozuvan: I would suggest asking the emacs community too (non-emacs users won't know what that is). |
| 23:59.23 | enoch | themill: so I'm not understanding it because diet-upgrade takes all jessie updates |
| 23:59.34 | enoch | i only want to take libicu52 from jessie |
| 23:59.34 | themill | "it"? |
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