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| 00:00.51 | enoch | themill, i added jessie repo to wheezy, then i added 3 rows to preferences to force system to use wheezy packages, but it tries to take the jessie packages |
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| 00:01.34 | themill | mixing releases is entirely unsupportable; wanting a library with a different soname from another release is a sure sign you're doing something wrong. |
| 00:01.54 | enoch | i need to upgrade libicu |
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| 00:03.28 | themill | Nothing in wheezy will use the library from jessie |
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| 00:05.40 | enoch | i need it for php |
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| 00:07.46 | bambams | frostschutz: GNU bug said that the code actually expects GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y. Tried that and it gave no error. |
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| 00:08.06 | bambams | Rebooting to see if that fixed it... >_< |
| 00:08.18 | enoch | so? |
| 00:08.28 | bambams | I'm not sure whether to be happy or sad that my system is still using MBR (kind of happy, but then I won't learn anything...). |
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| 00:09.34 | bambams | Hmmmm, that didn't quite work. Grub prompted me for the passphrase and then stopped at a command shell. |
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| 00:09.51 | bambams | Oh well. *shrugs* I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks anyway. |
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| 00:21.34 | enoch | dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc |
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| 00:28.00 | enoch | mhhh |
| 00:28.16 | enoch | compiling a newer version of a package from the next-version sources? |
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| 00:28.27 | enoch | is it acceptable? |
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| 00:30.39 | themill | enoch: which package? what are you actually trying to do? |
| 00:30.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell enoch about uupdate |
| 00:31.02 | enoch | libicu |
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| 00:31.09 | enoch | i need the jessie's package |
| 00:31.15 | enoch | (I'm on wheezy) |
| 00:31.18 | themill | enoch: can you explain why? |
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| 00:32.00 | enoch | because I'm using yii2 and it's translation module gives some problem using libicu48 |
| 00:32.23 | Brigo | ,v yii2 |
| 00:32.24 | judd | No package named 'yii2' was found in amd64. |
| 00:32.32 | themill | enoch: what is yii2 and where is it from? |
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| 00:32.47 | enoch | is a php framework |
| 00:32.55 | themill | written in php? |
| 00:33.02 | enoch | sure |
| 00:33.30 | themill | php doesn't load libicu |
| 00:33.39 | enoch | ... |
| 00:34.05 | enoch | http://inlista.studiomegattera.com/prova.php |
| 00:34.11 | enoch | ctrl+f icu |
| 00:34.46 | themill | Ahh... you're using php5-intl right. |
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| 00:35.28 | themill | So you'd need to also recompile that package against the newer libicu as well. Just installing a new library doesn't mean that packages will use it |
| 00:35.36 | enoch | recommended version in the yii docs is >= 49 |
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| 00:36.06 | enoch | now i compiled the 52 from jessie, is it safe to install it? |
| 00:36.08 | JohnTalent | What is the first desktop-selectable screen called? I just want to auto login to the desktop of my choice. |
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| 00:36.23 | abrotman | dpkg: tell JohnTalent about dm |
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| 00:36.33 | themill | enoch: probably, but it won't be used by anything |
| 00:36.43 | enoch | mhh |
| 00:36.55 | enoch | so? |
| 00:37.16 | JohnTalent | ? |
| 00:37.25 | themill | enoch: So you'd need to also recompile php5-intl which is the C extension that loads libicu into php. |
| 00:37.29 | JohnTalent | oh ok |
| 00:37.40 | Brigo | JohnTalent, you need to configure your dm. |
| 00:37.45 | enoch | i think this can be a problem :P |
| 00:38.20 | themill | enoch: you *might* be able to just recompile the wheezy package with the new libicu-dev package installed. |
| 00:38.27 | qtmayoi | kawaii |
| 00:38.34 | themill | at some stage it would be easier to upgrade to jessie |
| 00:38.47 | enoch | .... |
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| 00:39.54 | enoch | it is a web server, don't know if upgrading is a good idea |
| 00:40.26 | themill | well futzing with php and its libraries probably isn't either |
| 00:40.54 | JohnTalent | i looked at http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm but there is no automatic login option. |
| 00:40.56 | enoch | the upgrade should be automatic |
| 00:41.05 | enoch | I'm afraid about ispconfig |
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| 00:42.39 | JohnTalent | hm bbl |
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| 00:53.11 | enoch | upgrading php wit a repository fixed my problem... |
| 00:53.33 | enoch | using the same icu version... |
| 00:55.21 | abrotman | upgrading PHP? |
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| 00:57.36 | enoch | yes |
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| 01:01.38 | janga_v2 | hello! |
| 01:01.55 | janga_v2 | does anyone know how i the date command works |
| 01:02.07 | janga_v2 | like how can i permanently set the system time? |
| 01:02.17 | abrotman | dpkg: tell janga_v2 about set thetime |
| 01:02.18 | abrotman | dpkg: tell janga_v2 about set the time |
| 01:02.28 | abrotman | grr, bot |
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| 01:06.34 | janga_v2 | do i have to do any setup to make ntp work, because i know on gentoo i have to make an rc file |
| 01:06.37 | janga_v2 | ? |
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| 01:06.56 | abrotman | no, should be a reasonable default unless you have special requirements |
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| 01:07.02 | janga_v2 | ok cool |
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| 01:07.45 | janga_v2 | also, could having the date wrong by a little under two years (no idea why???) impact my ability to connect to the internet |
| 01:07.51 | janga_v2 | because very little is working |
| 01:07.58 | z8z | is there anything between debian packages to rotate some pdf pages? |
| 01:08.01 | janga_v2 | only really irc and telnet/ssh |
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| 01:08.25 | janga_v2 | abrotman: but otherwise thank you! |
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| 01:14.32 | abrotman | z8z: pdftk perhaps |
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| 01:15.01 | z8z | abrotman: command line or gui too? |
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| 01:28.08 | sambane | has anybody got any idea as to why phpmyadmin would download a file instead of running please? |
| 01:28.18 | sambane | when visited in a browser* |
| 01:29.49 | Gswain | you might not have apache set up to run whatever extension phpmyadmin is using through the php parser |
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| 01:30.02 | LMNOP | yeah php isnt running |
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| 01:31.17 | Ynnaf | how would you install icecat on debian ? |
| 01:31.28 | Ynnaf | Is there an official repo to add, or not ? |
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| 01:32.38 | themill | Ynnaf: it's not packaged for debian |
| 01:32.51 | Ynnaf | even in an unoficial way ? |
| 01:33.05 | Gswain | Ynnaf hmm myabe in http://cdn.debian.net/debian experimental main |
| 01:33.06 | themill | You'd be better off asking the icecat people that |
| 01:33.22 | s4ndm4n | Is this the right place to ask about issues related to Java in Debian? |
| 01:33.27 | themill | Gswain: no, not in experimental. |
| 01:33.42 | Gswain | ah oh well :-) |
| 01:33.44 | Ynnaf | why noy ? |
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| 01:37.55 | shingouz | because experimental will break not only your system, it will also break your cat and the time-space continuum |
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| 01:38.08 | dvs | O_O |
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| 01:38.24 | themill | pops shingouz in a box with a carefully selected isotope |
| 01:38.49 | Gswain | compile from source? |
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| 01:39.08 | Gswain | and make a package? |
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| 01:39.48 | Ynnaf | Might be a temporary solution, I guess |
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| 01:42.27 | themill | Ynnaf: Other than not keeping up with fixing CVEs, I'm not sure you get much from icecat you don't get from iceweasel plus a couple of extensions you can install yourself. |
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| 01:43.03 | Ynnaf | themill: it's more about the symbol than the actual use, in fact. |
| 01:43.19 | Ynnaf | Sure, there is little advantage |
| 01:43.33 | Ynnaf | maybe this bit about privacy browsing using tor I heard ? |
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| 01:43.55 | themill | Symbolically running a browser with known vulnerabilities isn't much of an advantage. icecat and iceweasel can both be used with tor |
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| 01:46.36 | Ynnaf | I take the risk, I just identify better to the icecat ideals. I don't use a bike because it's better than a car. |
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| 01:47.26 | atgnag__ | Could someone please seed this torrent of the latest debian testing? magnet:?xt=urn:btih:KJX2W52ERKLTHW4KUBID3C2UD5RPZGNI&dn=debian-testing-amd64-DVD-1.iso&tr=udp%3a%2f%2ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3a80 |
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| 01:47.52 | atgnag__ | I can't download something that big over http without getting timeouts.' |
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| 01:48.20 | Ynnaf | atgnag: use wget -c ? |
| 01:48.36 | themill | Ynnaf: if you want a car analogy... you're picking the rusty bike that is known to have a couple of punctures rather than the one that is known to have them fixed... |
| 01:48.39 | atgnag__ | Ynnaf: That requires user intervention though. |
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| 01:48.46 | abrotman | no it doesn't |
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| 01:49.16 | atgnag__ | abrotman: You mean if it times out, it will try again? |
| 01:49.18 | abrotman | atgnag__: also, why are you downloading the DVD? |
| 01:49.28 | abrotman | why not just use the netinst or CD1? |
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| 01:49.50 | Ynnaf | themill: I'll take the bike of the guy that match my feeling about what is right, even if it's quite silly. :3 |
| 01:50.07 | abrotman | Ynnaf: Okay, ask them for support then ... it's not in Debian |
| 01:50.17 | atgnag__ | For the netinst, because I'm downloading over throttled cellular internet, so it's slow and unreliable. |
| 01:50.28 | abrotman | atgnag__: then try wget -c |
| 01:50.30 | Ynnaf | Already did, just answering. |
| 01:50.34 | ryouma | i thought icecat had privacy improvements (not as extensions) |
| 01:50.39 | atgnag__ | I guess I might try the CD though. |
| 01:50.48 | atgnag__ | Is CD1 self-contained? |
| 01:51.05 | abrotman | to do what? |
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| 01:51.58 | Ynnaf | (if you use direct download abrotman, make sure to check shasum of the file) |
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| 01:52.21 | abrotman | Ynnaf: I'll be just fine, thanks |
| 01:52.22 | atgnag__ | Does testing come in a CD? |
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| 01:53.07 | Ynnaf | oops fail abrotman x) |
| 01:54.57 | abrotman | atgnag__: hrm, I don't see DVD ISO or CD ISO, just the netinst |
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| 02:05.18 | bynarie | does anyone in here have a link to a good tutorial on setting up an email server? |
| 02:05.29 | bynarie | has no experience in this |
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| 02:15.38 | karlpinc | bynarie: It's a relatively big job. Allocate a month. |
| 02:16.24 | bynarie | lol ok.. im learning that |
| 02:16.34 | bynarie | better just leave it up to the big corps |
| 02:16.54 | Ynnaf | there is bundled solutions, thought |
| 02:17.10 | Ynnaf | in yunohost or owncloud |
| 02:17.19 | Ynnaf | but that's not debian anymore, sort of |
| 02:17.36 | karlpinc | bynarie: My choices: postfix, dovecot, sqlgrey, postgres, & unix authentication. YMMV. |
| 02:17.47 | Ynnaf | (I'm off to bed now, 'night) |
| 02:17.56 | agenthex | Hello, fine users of Debian Linux. I'm trying to âinstall Deb 8.0 from USB, but I'm having trouble. I can boot from USB, I can get into a live CD environment, but I cannot install. The installer complains that it cannot read the contents of CD-ROM. |
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| 02:18.34 | bynarie | they should add a application to deploy a full mail server like they do with other apps, like docker, apache, etc... |
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| 02:18.39 | bynarie | but thanks for the info |
| 02:18.40 | abrotman | agenthex: Did you prepare the USB drive with unetbootin? |
| 02:18.53 | agenthex | abrotman: No, Multiboot. Is there |
| 02:19.01 | agenthex | Is there something up with UEFI/BIOS? |
| 02:19.04 | abrotman | bynarie: No, Email is a complex thing .. one install does not fit all |
| 02:19.13 | abrotman | dpkg: tell agenthex about win32diskwriter |
| 02:19.21 | abrotman | dpkg: tell agenthex about win32diskimager |
| 02:20.42 | master_j | agenthex: replace the cd in sources.list with the url of the repo |
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| 02:20.51 | master_j | maybe? |
| 02:21.10 | master_j | turn it into a net install |
| 02:21.24 | s4ndm4n | I am having a weird issue with OpenJDK 7 and above when used with ALSA. I have written a simple source file to test Midi but I am getting exceptions (LineNotFound) |
| 02:21.25 | bynarie | abrotman, yea i know.. its such a simple everyday thing but the behind the scenes is rediculously complex |
| 02:21.43 | mmalter | Hello! I just updated my Sid and I see a large improvement in boot time. Do you have any idea what is the cause of that? |
| 02:21.43 | s4ndm4n | but the same code compiles fine with Oracle Java |
| 02:21.52 | bynarie | s4ndm4n, just use oracle java.. ta hell with open jdk |
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| 02:22.46 | agenthex | master_j: Maybe. If I boot to USB live environment, can I replace the sources.list with the URL and just re-run the installer? |
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| 02:23.19 | agenthex | I couldn't get the installer to launch from the live environment, but maybe that's an issue with sources.list. |
| 02:23.24 | s4ndm4n | bynarie: This issue is limited to Debian and Ubuntu. It doesn't appear on Arch Linux. If I install PulseAudio, then the issue disappears. |
| 02:23.53 | karlpinc | s4ndm4n: You could check bugs.debian.org. |
| 02:23.53 | master_j | agenthex: i'm not sure but you could try |
| 02:24.07 | agenthex | Might be worth a shot. |
| 02:24.09 | s4ndm4n | karlpinc: Nothing is there. Just checked |
| 02:24.43 | master_j | also check your mount points maybe you can mount the usb to a /sr0 or /media/cdrom or whatever |
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| 02:25.09 | karlpinc | agenthex: If the installer does not launch it's probably not a source.list issue. Dunno. I'd follow abrotman's advice. He knows what he's doing. |
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| 02:46.02 | MouseTheLuckyDog | What is "apt-rdepends -show=depends libpcre3" supposed to do? |
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| 02:52.48 | rjsalts | MouseTheLuckyDog: sounds like it will list the dependencies of libpcre3 recursively, i.e. libpcre3 depends on libc6, libc6 depends libgcc1, libgcc1 depends ... |
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| 02:59.13 | rjsalts | Nautilus: if there is a network between them then set up a print server on the win7 host and then connect to it when you wish to print in the vm |
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| 03:01.50 | Nautilus | rjsalts: ah, I think I found where to setup the printer in debian8 |
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| 03:03.48 | CuteStat | how much is your website worth? find out at http://www.criosphinx.net/site-worth for more information visit https://www.criosphinx.net - Sell your website for top dollar get a free apparaisal |
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| 03:04.29 | Nautilus | cups error :( |
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| 03:05.36 | Ademan | Is it possible to install a deb from your local filesystem and *atomically* remove the package it conflicts with? |
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| 03:08.19 | shay_shay | hello peeps |
| 03:08.48 | shay_shay | Ademan: atomically ? |
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| 03:14.57 | Ademan | shay_shay: if I did apt-get remove foo-conflicting && dpkg -i foo.db the second command could fail, and I could be hosed. If it was atomic, both commands would be rolled back in case of a failure |
| 03:15.06 | rjsalts | Ademan: I assume you mean in the same apt-get ... to resolve dependencies, rather than dpkg --remove ... then dpkg -i /path/to/package |
| 03:15.10 | Remram | Does Debian/KDE support bluetooth at all? Trying to pair a speaker, nothing's happening |
| 03:16.34 | shay_shay | Ademan: if you used btrfs i believe there is a snapshotter for apt-get which allows atomic rollbacks |
| 03:17.19 | shay_shay | it automatically makes a snapshot when you make a change to your system, but it's going to slow down your filesystem, better to make manual snapshots only when you need them |
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| 03:18.13 | Ademan | hrm, I figured either dpkg or apt would have direct support for this kind of thing. My filesystem (ext4) doesn't support fancy features like that |
| 03:18.14 | Remram | shows up in "known bluetooth devices" but won't connect to it |
| 03:18.49 | Ademan | honestly I don't think there's a way this could completely screw me, so I may as well do it non-atomically |
| 03:18.51 | rjsalts | dpkg and apt aren't atomic even if the install and remove was done in the same command |
| 03:18.51 | dpkg | rjsalts: You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 03:19.13 | rjsalts | dpkg: I find that hard to believe |
| 03:19.13 | dpkg | rjsalts: no idea |
| 03:19.19 | Ademan | heh |
| 03:19.37 | rjsalts | damn, the bot didn't say the same thing |
| 03:19.58 | shay_shay | Ademan: apt-btrfs-snapshot is the package... anyways give me one example of a package manager on a linux distro which is atomic in that way without utilizing a filesystem with those capabilities ? |
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| 03:20.53 | rjsalts | shay_shay: nixos |
| 03:21.46 | shay_shay | actually yum is pretty good at doing rollbacks, but its just keeping track of everything and redoing it |
| 03:22.33 | rjsalts | I was not aware yum could do that |
| 03:23.40 | rjsalts | http://nixos.org/ has an atomic package manager |
| 03:24.30 | shay_shay | blasphemy |
| 03:24.31 | rjsalts | but I think it does that with symlinks or messing with PATH |
| 03:24.37 | shay_shay | like stow |
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| 03:40.23 | Remram | I can connect to a bluetooth speaker in one click from Windows or Mac |
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| 03:40.30 | Remram | my phone auto-grabs it from the next room |
| 03:40.58 | Remram | I've installed 10 different things and tried 3 different pulseaudio config and still can't get correct sound out of it |
| 03:41.07 | Remram | and almost destroyed my ears in the process |
| 03:41.41 | Remram | pulse doesn't even recover from disconnecting the speaker |
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| 03:42.55 | Remram | same happens with HDMI, I need to reboot the whole system when I plug something in |
| 03:43.08 | Remram | wtf is that |
| 03:44.20 | Remram | "no playback devices" right my soundcards probably ran away, wtf pulse |
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| 03:45.48 | Remram | bluetooth crashed, then pulse, then the mixer applet |
| 03:45.52 | Remram | everything just falls apart |
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| 03:48.49 | Remram | phonon only shows "pulseaudio sound server" where the list of devices should be, now |
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| 03:52.56 | criffle | ssh root@45.33.81.104 password: password .... not sure if there's anything worthwhile to do with this box, but feel free to play with it. Maybe seed some debian torrents? |
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| 03:54.18 | criffle | I have free Linode credits I'm trying to use up. I can always spin up more boxes of whatever size if that helps. |
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| 03:54.48 | criffle | Won't be around for more than a month, but I'm sure that's useful for seeding debian torrents or building .debs, or running a tor node or whatever |
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| 03:55.13 | Remram | you really shouldn't be doing that |
| 03:55.20 | Remram | you're gonna be held accountable for what people do with it |
| 03:55.47 | Remram | somebody shut it down before I could so probably fine |
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| 03:56.48 | brandan` | lol |
| 03:57.33 | criffle | Remram: I never signed their ToS, gave them personal info, or gave them my CC. They told me the only way to cancel the account was to give them that info or to run through the credit. |
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| 03:58.03 | criffle | They killed my first box and apologized by giving me even more free credit! |
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| 03:59.16 | criffle | I setup an open tor exit node the other night that was doing 300MB/sec. That would have been fine except I forgot to close the email ports so someone sent a spam mail or two. |
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| 04:02.32 | criffle | I explained to them that I never signed their ToS (in regard to a ToS violation.) They said that you automatically agree to their ToS no matter what, I'm not sure how that works. Sure they could cancel my account (finally did after four days of running boxes like that), but having no personal info, cc#, and a sectiopn about ToS specifically unchecked means that our relationship is pretty much what ever either of us decide to make it, |
| 04:02.58 | Rusty1 | !offtopic |
| 04:02.59 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 04:04.02 | criffle | My apologies. To be fair, it was a Debian box. I'll leave now. |
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| 04:09.00 | Remram | jesus christ, can't sound cards default to 0% instead of 100%? |
| 04:09.17 | Remram | bluetooth speaker disconnects, reconnects, and blow's my ears? How is that expected? |
| 04:09.30 | Remram | this is so f-ing easy to get right |
| 04:09.33 | Remram | wtf |
| 04:10.04 | Remram | 2015 and Linux really still shouldn't be allowed to play sound |
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| 04:18.49 | ryouma | sounds like linux |
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| 04:31.26 | Juon | hii |
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| 04:45.11 | veek | for ntfs i get ls: cannot access /mnt: Input/output error but the fs is fine - any fix it looks to be a buggy ntfs-3g in jessie |
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| 04:46.06 | veek | i'm using 1:2014.2.15AR.2 amd64 |
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| 04:50.22 | shibly | Hi, |
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| 04:56.37 | veek | hmm odd.. i uninstalled ntfs-3g and everything works |
| 04:57.00 | veek | the kernel ntfs thingy works |
| 04:57.41 | shibly | I hope, debian jessy is the best, currently i use debian wheezy |
| 04:57.50 | shibly | I am not going to upgrade |
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| 04:59.39 | veek | the upgrade was pretty painless considering.. and it's faster systemd |
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| 05:00.06 | shibly | bye |
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| 05:00.11 | grobend | WHY DONT YOU SUCK MY COCK YOU STUPID UGLY NIGGER |
| 05:00.15 | veek | barring the netfs-3g problem and having to disable a whole lot of crap |
| 05:00.22 | ipv4 | systemd is awesome |
| 05:00.54 | veek | yep and i have autologin enabled so i fall straight into my X env |
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| 05:01.08 | ipv4 | I love how clear the logs are and lacking of stupid useless info |
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| 05:02.01 | veek | though there are some oddities like M-F2 to switch to X though M-F4 etc work (and i had to disable clearing the console to read the startup messages) |
| 05:02.56 | ipv4 | The way the services are done is wonderful too |
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| 05:04.49 | ipv4 | I have been getting spammed with a lot of GLib errors though |
| 05:04.56 | veek | well tht was a bit confusing.. there's systemctl then service and update-rc.d |
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| 05:05.27 | veek | not sure which to use where though update-rc.d seems to turn most things off |
| 05:05.31 | ipv4 | systemctl is very easy when you get used to it :) |
| 05:05.40 | ipv4 | If you don't want to use it by default |
| 05:05.54 | ipv4 | use systemctl disable to take it out of the run level |
| 05:06.04 | ipv4 | when you need it you can enable and start it |
| 05:06.17 | ipv4 | no need to update-rc.d |
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| 05:07.25 | veek | did you mess with console-kit-daemon it has 62 threads but i guess that's okay except for cluttering my pstree? |
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| 05:07.58 | ipv4 | if you need to know what's available just systemctl list-units |
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| 05:09.37 | veek | hoo that's nice |
| 05:09.40 | ipv4 | I don't know about console-kit :( |
| 05:09.57 | ipv4 | you can add like --type=service for specific types to that command too |
| 05:11.14 | ipv4 | list-unit-files very helpful too |
| 05:11.29 | ipv4 | I have had a really easy time managing my services in systemd |
| 05:11.45 | ipv4 | I will never have any earthly idea what people complain about |
| 05:12.41 | veek | well mostly it's understanding systemd.. with scripts you have a clear picture of how stuff works |
| 05:13.04 | ipv4 | It's new, it isn't hard to understand though :P |
| 05:13.13 | ipv4 | It requires learning something different, I guess |
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| 05:14.29 | ipv4 | The way the logs are done alone though...nothing has made me happier |
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| 06:26.22 | sigma__ | is anyone here available to help me build a i386 package (debian / kubuntu) for the application here - https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/home:simper:kup/kup-kf5 i tried and failed miserably! |
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| 06:28.30 | jelly | sigma__: you'll have to build against debian sid branch, there's no Qt5 in Debian 8 release. Might not even be completely present in sid yet |
| 06:29.17 | jelly | or maybe I'm wrong |
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| 06:32.06 | gaurishankar_ | hi |
| 06:32.34 | gaurishankar_ | I am unable to login to root of my server from another pc via putty |
| 06:32.45 | gaurishankar_ | though everything else seems normal |
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| 06:33.27 | valdyn | gaurishankar_: see PermitRootLogin in /etc/ssh/sshd_confg |
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| 06:33.28 | valdyn | gaurishankar_: see PermitRootLogin in /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 06:34.15 | gaurishankar_ | on production server can I make these changes |
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| 06:35.40 | gaurishankar_ | version is Linux 3.16.0-4-686-pae on i686 |
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| 06:35.56 | gaurishankar_ | this happened after dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie |
| 06:36.13 | ipv4 | Are you trolling |
| 06:36.17 | ipv4 | You were in here a week ago |
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| 06:36.25 | ipv4 | Asking the exact same question |
| 06:36.41 | ipv4 | You didn't JUST dist upgrade |
| 06:36.46 | ipv4 | And have that exact issue |
| 06:36.53 | ipv4 | AGAIN |
| 06:37.43 | gaurishankar_ | it was apt update upgrade followed by dist-upgrade |
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| 06:38.03 | vandox | You should read the notes during the update |
| 06:38.14 | ipv4 | Yeah except that didn't happen you already had this "issue" a week ago and got a ton of advice |
| 06:38.16 | gaurishankar_ | PermitRootLogin without-password StrictModes yes |
| 06:38.19 | ipv4 | You are trolling |
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| 06:39.22 | gaurishankar_ | what u did ipv4 to sort out this issue |
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| 06:39.48 | ipv4 | Told you to read logs and check configurations |
| 06:40.01 | ipv4 | It was a long discussion |
| 06:40.07 | gaurishankar_ | right sir |
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| 06:40.40 | gaurishankar_ | I could not ound any anomaly , except these lines PermitRootLogin without-password StrictModes yes in SSHD CONFIG |
| 06:40.45 | ipv4 | You were advised to try logging in and check auth.log and many other pieces of advice |
| 06:41.01 | ipv4 | Yet you're in here saying the same thing and no new information |
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| 06:41.09 | ipv4 | No one can help you with something that vague |
| 06:41.41 | gaurishankar_ | right sir, I will again study the log files |
| 06:41.44 | gaurishankar_ | thanks |
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| 06:44.59 | superrorc | How can i create bootable usb flash with sda1 ntfs , and sda2 ext4 with live debian?? |
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| 06:46.20 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 06:46.41 | _Raiz | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn |
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| 06:46.51 | _Raiz | Is the hardware shown here support free software? |
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| 06:47.02 | _Raiz | With needing non-free drivers/firmware |
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| 07:18.13 | jelly | _Raiz: no, it's a mix |
| 07:18.20 | _Raiz | Err. |
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| 07:19.18 | jelly | it's not "this hardware is good to run Debian" but rather "how to run Debian on the hardware platform you got" |
| 07:19.23 | hypermist | Can someone point me to a guide for. vlan setup |
| 07:20.30 | jelly | hypermist: install "vlan" package, read vlan-interfaces(5) man page |
| 07:21.23 | hypermist | Yaay Readinh haha ohwell i need it |
| 07:21.47 | jelly | it's not rocket science |
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| 07:22.33 | jelly | basically you just install it, and configure eth0.57 instead of eth0 |
| 07:22.39 | hypermist | jelly, but i AM |
| 07:22.59 | jelly | (VLAN57 being a vlan in trunk on that interface) |
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| 08:26.44 | thenewone | Hi guys |
| 08:26.59 | thenewone | good morning |
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| 08:59.41 | aborrero | how can one control which tabs xfce4-terminal open at startup? Currently it opens 3 or 4 with dirs used in last session. I don't manage to find any config file |
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| 09:01.09 | admin6 | Hi all, Iâm looking for performance in order to transfert large amount of data (50TB / 70Millions of files) between 2 debian NAS servers over the network. |
| 09:01.20 | admin6 | I have a 10Gb dedicated network between the servers and my disk have about 180MB/s perf. |
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| 09:02.35 | admin6 | However, Iâve tested to transfer files with rsync, tar+netcat, nfs or scp and none of them gave me more than 12MB/s perf⦠Any suggestion? |
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| 09:03.34 | Arone | ;ol* |
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| 09:09.34 | ChrisH | admin6: run atop during your tests to see the bootleneck. From my expierience network bandwidth and latency are the main issues... and in your case the number of files will slow down extremly |
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| 09:12.31 | admin6 | ChrisH: Thanks. Iâll try to get a more precise idea of where my bottleneck is |
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| 09:16.32 | ChrisH | admin6: another idea might be running multiple smaller rsyncs in parallel... but that all depends on things like: number of CPUs, additional load, ... |
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| 09:16.50 | fennesz | Hello ! I have slow boot up times and figured out that dmesg gives me this : firmware failed to load: ar3k/AthrBT_0x01020200.dfu . I believe this is the Bluetooth firmware . How can I install this . |
| 09:16.52 | fennesz | ? |
| 09:17.36 | fennesz | from a website got that :You need to install the non-free package firmware-atheros. is this installed with apt-get isntall firmware-atheros? |
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| 09:18.26 | admin6 | ChrisH; Yes, seems to be a good idea, Iâll try it asap :-) |
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| 09:20.40 | JNixx | admin6: Keep in mind that your throughput won't be very high if all the files are small. |
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| 09:21.36 | ChrisH | fennesz: firmware-atheros: lib/firmware/ar3k/AthrBT_0x01020200.dfu so you are right. check possible via apt-file searcg ar3k/AthrBT_0x01020200.dfu |
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| 09:22.08 | ChrisH | fennesz: apt-file search of course |
| 09:22.11 | fennesz | apt-file search ar3k/AthrBT_0x01020200.dfu? |
| 09:22.13 | fennesz | yes ok |
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| 09:22.46 | admin6 | JNixx: unfortunaetly, that is the case. my average fils size is 800KB |
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| 09:24.51 | fennesz | ChrisH, I get apt-file command not found |
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| 09:25.49 | fennesz | ChrisH, I am searching right now what apt-file does |
| 09:25.57 | fennesz | forgive my ignorance |
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| 09:26.12 | darxmurf | to look for files in APT packages |
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| 09:26.33 | ChrisH | fennesz: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update ;# apt-file searches all knsown packages for the given filename |
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| 09:27.01 | darxmurf | apt-file search libhpip.so.0.0.1 |
| 09:27.02 | darxmurf | libhpmud0: /usr/lib/libhpip.so.0.0.1 |
| 09:27.07 | darxmurf | simple example :) |
| 09:27.16 | fennesz | thank you |
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| 09:37.51 | fennesz | I have no results with :apt-file search ar3k/AthrBT_0x01020200.dfu |
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| 09:40.28 | fennesz | Also found this : https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc but bluetooth is not on supported list |
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| 09:43.34 | l3archos | hello all. I am using "Nemo" as file manager (gnome-shell) and when I click on a file on my local filesystem and want to "drag" the file into o "SMB/CIFS" directory on the remote host, the file is "COPIED" and not "moved". When I do the same with source=local filesystem and destination=local filesystem the file is "MOVED". Can I have the same behaviour (=MOVE) for drag'n'drop to remote systems, too ? |
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| 09:44.54 | thyphus | l3archos: instead of dragndrop just use ctrl+x and ctrl+v. it is a default behavior that the file is copied and not moved |
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| 09:45.04 | ahop | What's the difference between: |
| 09:45.21 | ahop | :: /etc/modules-load.d/modules.conf and /etc/modules |
| 09:45.40 | ahop | To which one should I add the modules that I tried by modprobing them? |
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| 09:48.34 | l3archos | thyphus: sure, that's what I am actually doing, but I would like to configure the system to use "drag-n-drop". And as I said, when I drag-n-drop a file on my local hard disk it works fine as one would expect from "drag-n-drop" feauture. But on remote system instead of "move" the "copy" command is used. I am sure that's a security feauture or something like that. But how can I disable/modify that behaviour ? |
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| 09:53.08 | l3archos | anyone ? |
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| 09:54.21 | thyphus | l3archos: this is a debian based channel, not "Nemo" |
| 09:54.51 | thyphus | l3archos: https://github.com/linuxmint/nemo/issues/515 |
| 09:54.55 | thyphus | l3archos: google first hit |
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| 09:55.14 | thyphus | l3archos: "Right click and drag should show all options along with Cancel option." |
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| 09:58.29 | steel_ | hey guys I've got a question why syncy the rtc with the sys clock every 11 minutes. =) So just who decided it and why ? I mean why not 7 minutes or 14 ? It is just a discussion with some students but nobody knows the answer =) |
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| 10:02.52 | ChrisH | Where did find the 11minutes? What process is syncy? |
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| 10:04.25 | meinaeiner | spambot detected : |
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| 10:04.28 | meinaeiner | * [Jukebox63] (~Price@host86-149-75-220.range86-149.btcentralplus.com): ... |
| 10:04.28 | meinaeiner | * [Jukebox63] #debian |
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| 10:07.06 | babilen | meinaeiner: No spam/flood please |
| 10:07.49 | l3archos | thyphus: with SHIFT+Drag-n-Drop I can force to use the "move" command when source and destination are on different filesystems. That's a little help, but not what I basically tried to achieve. I'd like to change the "default" behaviour. |
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| 10:08.01 | steel_ | nobody ? |
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| 10:08.09 | steel_ | the 11 minutes mode problem question ? |
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| 10:08.20 | ChrisH | steel_: once more: 12:02 < ChrisH> Where did find the 11minutes? What process is syncy? |
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| 10:09.22 | steel_ | sorry it syncs every 11 minutes |
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| 10:10.11 | steel_ | http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man4/rtc.4.html |
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| 10:10.55 | steel_ | "When the kernel's system time is synchronized with an external reference using adjtimex(2) it will update a designated RTC every 11 minutes...." |
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| 10:11.56 | l3archos | even in dconf editor under org-->gnome I cannot find a suitable setting for changing the default "drag-n-drop" command when drag-n-drop a file to remote systems |
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| 10:13.24 | steel_ | so ChrisH do you have an idea ? |
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| 10:13.54 | fennesz | just for the input , I solved it with : apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-atheros |
| 10:13.58 | rendar | i have to compile a kernel modle, and #include <linux/modules.h> is not found on my debian, but in /usr/src i have the linux-source-2.6.32 directory, is that what i need? or i have to install more with apt-get? |
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| 10:16.01 | babilen | rendar: You typically want headers and most modules have packages already. What are you really trying to do? |
| 10:16.24 | rendar | babilen, compile my_mod.c in my_mod.lo |
| 10:16.24 | babilen | and 2.6.32 ... wtf?! |
| 10:16.28 | rendar | my_mod.ko, sorry |
| 10:16.36 | babilen | What is my_mod ? |
| 10:16.40 | withnale_ | how do I tell simply if a file is installed and what version? I was 'dpkg-query --show package_name' but I've just found out that if I uninstall the package I still get the version number |
| 10:16.42 | rendar | a kernel module i've written |
| 10:16.52 | withnale_ | s/file is installed/package is installed/ |
| 10:17.49 | withnale_ | have I really got to make two calls? one to get the pkg status and one to get the version? |
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| 10:17.54 | babilen | rendar: An, I'd ask in #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net and you probably want the headers. Why are you developing against such an ancient kernel version? |
| 10:17.57 | ChrisH | steel_: no idea. I found that 11min the first time today. |
| 10:18.21 | rendar | babilen, ok thanks |
| 10:18.25 | rendar | babilen, nope |
| 10:18.39 | rendar | babilen, i'm on Linux swordfish 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.51-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:18.52 | rendar | but dunno why, i've found that directory in /usr/src |
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| 10:19.12 | babilen | rendar: Yeah, install the corresponding header package |
| 10:19.31 | rendar | yeah |
| 10:21.12 | fennesz | guys , I am also getting : nouveau E[ PBUS][0000:01:00.0] MMIO read of 0x00000000 FAULT at 0x400700 [ IBUS ] with dmsg is there anything I should look into ? |
| 10:21.30 | rendar | babilen, ok i've just found i have linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64 and linux-headers-3.2.0-4-common, |
| 10:22.06 | fennesz | is this the nvidia drivers? |
| 10:22.51 | towo` | no, the nouveau driver |
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| 10:25.49 | fennesz | towo`, is there something missing ? |
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| 10:26.13 | towo` | who knows, too less info |
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| 10:27.31 | fennesz | I guess :) What info do you need? |
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| 10:28.44 | towo` | fennesz, which nvidia card? any problems in drawing graphical desktop? |
| 10:28.54 | fennesz | http://pastebin.com/M9HEeVtS |
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| 10:29.30 | towo` | fennesz, olptimus notebook? |
| 10:29.34 | fennesz | towo`, I am using a laptop with integrated intel 4600 , and nvidia 760m GT as 2nd gpu |
| 10:29.36 | towo` | *optimus |
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| 10:29.56 | fennesz | * it's an asus n56jr |
| 10:29.57 | towo` | i'm out, optimus is crap |
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| 10:30.29 | fennesz | :) |
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| 10:33.46 | metallic | Hello everybody, I have a hard drive with an msdos partition table and I want to create a gpt partition table but I don't want to lose the data on the hard drive (different OSes). I ask you for advice, is it ok if I copy every existent partition to another drive, then I create a gpt partition table on the hard drive and then I paste the backedup partitions? |
| 10:35.00 | metallic | I want to avoid reinstalling all the OSes :(. |
| 10:35.49 | _Raiz | metallic, # dd if=/dev/sdX of=devbackup |
| 10:36.06 | _Raiz | replace X with the latter of the device you want to backup |
| 10:36.26 | _Raiz | Then... create a new partition table... |
| 10:36.39 | _Raiz | mount devbackup |
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| 10:37.05 | _Raiz | restore your files. |
| 10:37.09 | metallic | _Raiz: I already know how to back up a partition, thanks :). What I want to know is if I will encounter errors by "pasting" a partition from an msdos partition table to a partition of a gpt partition table |
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| 10:37.32 | Chetic | How can I get a list of debian packages with essential set to 'yes' in their control file? (e.g. https://packages.debian.org/sid/bash ) |
| 10:37.50 | _Raiz | Umm,i guess there's no solution, you have to backup your files and reinstall everything :( |
| 10:38.00 | metallic | _Raiz: WHAT? |
| 10:38.04 | metallic | seriously? |
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| 10:38.29 | _Raiz | I have no trick to do that. |
| 10:38.30 | l3archos | on Windows I formerly used "Adobe Acrobat" for viewing PDF files. A nice feauture on that tool was: I imported my scaned signature and within Acrobat I was able to choose this signature and put it somewhere on the PDF document and also could resize it. How can I do that on Linux and which tool do you suggest me to look at ? |
| 10:38.32 | metallic | _Raiz: what if I make an iso out of my partitions? |
| 10:38.47 | _Raiz | Well, that's what i said. |
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| 10:38.56 | _Raiz | Backup them. |
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| 10:39.18 | metallic | No, I mean, like a live image |
| 10:39.22 | metallic | is it possible? |
| 10:39.38 | towo` | not realy |
| 10:39.39 | metallic | Or is my despair which is blinding me? |
| 10:39.47 | _Raiz | # dd if=/dev/sdX# of=partition |
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| 10:40.34 | metallic | Well... No gpt then XD |
| 10:41.06 | _Raiz | Why you want to use GPT anyway? |
| 10:41.09 | _Raiz | EFI? |
| 10:41.12 | petern_ | How can I find out why systemd can't start udev? |
| 10:41.25 | metallic | No, tired of logical partitions |
| 10:41.45 | petern_ | It starts in rescue boot, but not normal boot. |
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| 10:42.13 | petern_ | The normal boot leaves no logs. |
| 10:42.57 | petern_ | I don't get it. I did a simple wheezy -> jessie update on a KVM guest, all my others have worked. |
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| 10:47.51 | metallic | I have run the following command <dd if=dev/sda9 of=/dev/sdb1 bs=5M>. /dev/sda9 is a 10 Gb partition. Why is it taking so much time?? It is been running for 20 minutes now |
| 10:48.23 | _Raiz | Err, 10 GB. |
| 10:48.30 | _Raiz | Of course it will do. |
| 10:48.46 | metallic | but I set bs=5M :/ |
| 10:48.51 | _Raiz | make sure that you point the right destinations. |
| 10:49.00 | _Raiz | SSD or HDD? |
| 10:49.03 | metallic | HDD |
| 10:49.10 | metallic | both, sda and sdb |
| 10:49.33 | _Raiz | It will take the same time you need to install "Linux Mint" |
| 10:49.36 | _Raiz | 10 GB |
| 10:49.39 | _Raiz | :P |
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| 10:49.55 | _Raiz | BRB |
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| 10:55.43 | metallic | Ok, I have yet another question hehehe. I will create a new logical partition for another Debian system in which I can test things (I want to contribute some packages and I have been adviced not to do so on my actual system). If I use dd to copy the existing partition in which debian is located and paste it on the new logical partition... Will the latter work as the former? Will I be able to boot it? Is there anything I should |
| 10:55.43 | metallic | be aware of before doing so? |
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| 10:56.46 | bezaban | metallic: you should look into debootsrap I think, not sure if it is recommended for building packages, someone else might be able to shed some light on that |
| 10:56.48 | metallic | I know I could use a virtual machine... |
| 10:57.09 | bezaban | https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 10:57.36 | bezaban | hmm, that's not updated for jessie |
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| 11:04.53 | l3archos | hi all. When I changed my system language in GNOME settings menu under "Region & Language" at the next login I was asked if the system should automatically rename the existing directories that reside under my user account on the filesystem. For example "Pictures" renamed to "Bilder" (=german). When I switch back to english, I don't get this popup any more, why am I not asked again to convert them back? How do I do that? |
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| 11:05.27 | centrx | interesting |
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| 11:06.25 | teraflop | l3archos: that's normal since you have installed xdg user dirs |
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| 11:07.03 | l3archos | teraflop: but how can I instruct my system to rename my directories again, when I change the system language another time ? |
| 11:07.06 | teraflop | or whatever the exact name is .... |
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| 11:08.16 | teraflop | the DE detecs, if not just call xdg-user-dirs or xdg-user-dirs-gtk |
| 11:08.36 | teraflop | detects it* |
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| 11:17.32 | l3archos | teraflop: I only find "xdg-user-dir" and "xdg-user-dirs-update" which doesn't seem to update my home dir |
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| 11:21.00 | Brigo | l3archos, what is th output of cat /~/.config/user-dirs.locale |
| 11:21.03 | Brigo | ? |
| 11:21.37 | l3archos | the old paths of the "german" locale. Meanwhile I switched back to "english" and my goal is that my directories are renamed to english text |
| 11:22.04 | l3archos | Brigo: I could manually edit this file now, but why does X not automagically update the names ? |
| 11:22.16 | l3archos | is a logoff/login not enough and I should reboot ? |
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| 11:24.12 | l3archos | by the way: why does the shell command "echo $XDG_DESKTOP_DIR" output nothing (empty) ?? |
| 11:24.19 | teraflop | l3archos: xdg-user-dirs-update does for it for me, I suggest you to read the man page |
| 11:24.19 | Brigo | l3archos, the man page of "xdg-user-dirs-update" says it should update it. |
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| 11:25.06 | l3archos | strange it doesn't here :( that's why I asked here |
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| 11:26.16 | Brigo | the output of cat /home/jfa/.config/user-dirs.locale in my system is es_ES. |
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| 11:26.59 | l3archos | "xdg-user-dirs-update --force" did solve my issue. |
| 11:27.16 | l3archos | Brigo + teraflop: Thank you! |
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| 11:27.41 | Brigo | l3archos, i think you shouldn't neet --force. |
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| 11:27.58 | teraflop | l3archos: np |
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| 11:28.32 | l3archos | brb ... |
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| 11:43.09 | ElDiabolo | Is evolution doing any data migration whe upgrading from wheezy to jessie? |
| 11:43.33 | whirm | ls |
| 11:43.39 | Krakakanok | i think no |
| 11:43.59 | whirm | sorry for that |
| 11:44.08 | petern_ | Unlikely, that'd depend on who is using it. |
| 11:44.30 | whirm | Is anybody here having issues with the apple alu keyboard with the new 4.0.0-1 kernel? |
| 11:45.27 | whirm | I have two different apple alu keyboards on two different computers with the same issue: after using it for a while, it stops responding |
| 11:45.36 | whirm | no weird message on the kernel log |
| 11:46.05 | whirm | any other keyboard works fine |
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| 11:48.19 | whirm | if you unplug/plug the keyboard it will work fine for a few minutes and if I go to lunch and come back it still works. It seems to happen only if I use it? |
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| 11:52.07 | darxmurf | hi again |
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| 12:24.16 | l3archos | hey all. I have a script which is using "xv" command to display a PDF. How do I find out which package I need to install on Debian Jessie to have this "xv" command available? I tried with "apt-file search -x xv$" unfortunately without success. I also tried "apt-file search 'xv '" but didn't help me either. |
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| 12:32.31 | brontosaurusrex | how would i get jekyll and ruby and eveything back to jessie defaults? |
| 12:32.50 | brontosaurusrex | http://paste.debian.net/plain/194947 < this is what it says now |
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| 12:33.20 | centrx | brontosaurusrex, How is your question related to the pastie? |
| 12:33.44 | brontosaurusrex | it should just make new site and not say anything |
| 12:33.59 | brontosaurusrex | and since i dont know ruby, i wouldnt know what that relly is |
| 12:34.19 | centrx | It wants the gem rb-inotify to be installed |
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| 12:35.01 | brontosaurusrex | centrx: shouldn't that be handled with : apt-get install --reinstall jekyll ? |
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| 12:36.06 | centrx | brontosaurusrex, I should think so, yes |
| 12:36.17 | centrx | brontosaurusrex, jekyll ultimately depends on ruby-rb-inotify |
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| 12:39.41 | l3archos | anyone ? |
| 12:39.54 | brontosaurusrex | centrx: ok .... |
| 12:40.29 | centrx | l3archos, hold on I'll find it |
| 12:42.04 | centrx | l3archos, Looks like it's not in a Debian package, because xv was last released in 1994 and has a number security vulnerabilities - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188738 |
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| 12:44.08 | centrx | l3archos, change it to use xpdf or something |
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| 12:45.23 | l3archos | ok |
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| 12:48.52 | whirm | ok, if anybody has issues with the new 4.0 kernel in debian and the apple alu keyboard: disable the USB autosuspend for that device It doesn't work properly anymore |
| 12:50.04 | babilen | whirm: thanks for reporting back |
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| 12:52.09 | whirm | babilen: :) |
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| 12:53.39 | nikio_ | I am getting: client denied by server configuration: /usr/share/phpmyadmin . what to do? |
| 12:54.15 | centrx | How did you get it? |
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| 13:01.32 | g105b | My server is being DDOSed. I've got things like fail2ban securing the SSH side of things, but what measures can I take to prevent attacks being successful over HTTP? The site in question happens to be a Wordpress site, and wp-admin.php is being hit continuously -- an obvious brute force attempt -- but what can I do about it (apart from simply changing wp-admin.php filename) ? |
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| 13:02.23 | Phil-Work | g105b, you could rate limit |
| 13:02.40 | Phil-Work | or firewall |
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| 13:03.05 | Phil-Work | also ensure good passwords are used |
| 13:03.33 | Phil-Work | with Wordpress, brute force attempts almost always use the 'admin' user - it's in your interests to change that username |
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| 13:04.13 | ElDiabolo | gl05b, Is the traffic a problem? |
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| 13:05.01 | ElDiabolo | gl05b, Do you have access to the apache configuration? |
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| 13:19.15 | g105b | ElDiabolo: yes, traffic is the problem. There are so many POST requests being made to wp-login that nginx can't keep up. I have full access to the server. |
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| 13:21.55 | ElDiabolo | g105b, Is the volume of traffic a problem (moneywise, network saturation)? There are ways to make this traffic not reach you, the people adminitering your autonomus system can do that. |
| 13:22.06 | ElDiabolo | You can't. |
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| 13:22.50 | ElDiabolo | g105b, If only server load is the problem, it should be possible to block the source ip via web server configuration. |
| 13:23.34 | g105b | ElDiabolo: The network isn't being saturated, just the processing capability of the server, of which I have full root access. I'm looking for a nice solution to automate nginx and iptables. |
| 13:23.39 | fireba11 | ElDiabolo: g105b of just drop connectons from that ip with an iptables rule |
| 13:24.01 | g105b | fireba11: ElDiabolo: This attack is DDoS, there are hundreds of IPs, all unique. |
| 13:24.02 | fireba11 | hm .. try to get fail2ban handling that for you? :-) |
| 13:24.10 | fireba11 | g105b: bummer :-D |
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| 13:25.26 | fireba11 | g105b: do you actually use the login? |
| 13:25.45 | g105b | fireba11: the wp-login.php file? |
| 13:25.47 | ChrisH | g105b: shutdown the service and redirect to a 404 sorry page? Hard approach but |
| 13:27.09 | fireba11 | g105b: yes. half of the wordpress-installations don't actually allow ppl to log in |
| 13:27.38 | g105b | ChrisH: that is what I have done at the moment. The requests are still coming in but no PHP threads are active, so the system is surviving better. I'm looking for a solution to stop future attacks, preferably something with nginx and fail2ban working together. |
| 13:28.17 | g105b | fireba11: yeah I see that now, but I'm looking for more generic advice, not wordpress specific. |
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| 13:28.56 | ChrisH | g105b: There is not much against a DDOS attack but more HW, better LBs and more bandwidth. |
| 13:29.40 | fireba11 | g105b: if it's ddos that is kinda hard ... that's why it's used |
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| 13:30.52 | moncky | do TCP connections that are in a TIME_WAIT state count towards open files for a PID? I know they don't show up in an lsof -p $PID but I don't know if that is authortative |
| 13:31.59 | ChrisH | moncky: I do not know either. But compare against /proc/PID/fd |
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| 13:32.46 | moncky | AFAIUI when the connection is closed and goes to TIME_WAIT there is a tuple with the server ip and port and client ip and port stored somewhere |
| 13:33.00 | ElDiabolo | g105b, You might find out, if those requests have something in common, I doubt you'll find a generic solution (except for maybe a fail2ban config). |
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| 13:33.50 | ElDiabolo | g105b, If they have something in common, use that for blocking them. |
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| 13:36.06 | ElDiabolo | g105b, Maybe they all send a libwww-perl user agent header or the like. |
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| 13:50.31 | TFrog | anyone here working with debian jessie on a laptop? |
| 13:51.05 | sonOfRa | TFrog: just updated to stretch a day ago, still might be able to help? |
| 13:51.37 | TFrog | have you had any luck with power management and using tlp as well as powertop with the new systemd? |
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| 13:54.44 | Brigo | TFrog, what is tlp and what is your problem? |
| 13:55.33 | sonOfRa | TFrog: huh, never really did any power management on it, sorry |
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| 13:56.03 | TFrog | Brigo, tlp is a tool used for power management and controlling the processor as well as chipset power consumption. i'd like to load debian jessie, but with systemd it's a bit of a hairball getting power management under control |
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| 13:57.02 | TFrog | sonOfRa, i don't think many worry about power management with a lot of the distro's because they don't unplug their laptops for very long. |
| 13:57.09 | Brigo | all i can say about is that power management is doing by logind in systemd. |
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| 13:57.34 | themill | TFrog: you'd do better to ask an actual question |
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| 13:57.45 | sonOfRa | TFrog: yeah, this laptop is a bit old now (t510), it's mostly used with a cable or a dock |
| 13:57.54 | Brigo | and logind is quite easy to manage |
| 13:58.24 | TFrog | ok. perhaps this would be better addressed over in the systemd room. |
| 13:58.41 | themill | nothing will ever be addressed if you don't actually ask a question... |
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| 13:59.48 | TFrog | ok. let's try this. anyone doing power management with a laptop and systemd? if so, what tools are you using or what have you done to get power consumption to a minimum? |
| 13:59.54 | themill | !ask |
| 13:59.54 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:00.44 | themill | (questions with "anyone" in them aren't questions you are ever going to get an answer to) |
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| 14:02.12 | teraflop | powertop |
| 14:02.16 | teraflop | ah nvm |
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| 14:03.04 | c0mrad3 | how to shift to gdm in debian 8 |
| 14:03.39 | centrx | apt-get install gdm ? |
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| 14:03.59 | teraflop | c0mrad3: I do not get the debian 8 part ... |
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| 14:05.51 | c0mrad3 | centrx teraflop https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/CkdUTNDF/ |
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| 14:06.20 | teraflop | ,v gdm3 |
| 14:06.21 | judd | Package: gdm3 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.30.5-6squeeze2; squeeze: 2.30.5-6squeeze5; wheezy: 3.4.1-8; stretch: 3.14.1-7; jessie: 3.14.1-7; sid: 3.14.1-7 |
| 14:06.32 | teraflop | c0mrad3: it's gdm3 |
| 14:07.04 | c0mrad3 | then it's already installed :) teraflop |
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| 14:07.14 | teraflop | c0mrad3: so ... |
| 14:07.47 | c0mrad3 | nothing I was try to configure to gdm and I was getting this error now I fixed it using gdm3 :) |
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| 14:08.00 | teraflop | ah, ok |
| 14:08.16 | c0mrad3 | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/vdw8SXmy/ |
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| 14:10.43 | c0mrad3 | teraflop is this error common https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/gI8AN5qm/ |
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| 14:12.37 | teraflop | c0mrad3: enable gd3 with systemctl if you want it to be started at boot |
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| 14:15.02 | teraflop | c0mrad3: are you in systemd? |
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| 14:17.40 | teraflop | c0mrad3: if you don't know anything about systemd (if yes forgive me) I strongly suggest you to read about managing services with systemd, start/stop/enable/disable/mask, etc. and how to deal with journalctl |
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| 14:24.40 | xj54y | ahmetalpbalkan, here we are.. |
| 14:24.49 | xj54y | ah ** |
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| 14:25.19 | xj54y | Anyone working to haskell here? Looking to install the latest cabal, though something may be conflicted |
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| 14:29.43 | chele | is vagrant a kind of docker ? |
| 14:29.49 | chele | ,v vagrant |
| 14:29.50 | judd | Package: vagrant on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.0.3-1; jessie: 1.6.5+dfsg1-2; sid: 1.7.2+dfsg-4; stretch: 1.7.2+dfsg-4 |
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| 14:30.02 | jhutchins | !info vagrant |
| 14:30.13 | dpkg | vagrant: (Tool for building and distributing virtualized development environments), section admin, is optional. Version: 1.7.2+dfsg-4 (sid), Packaged size: 334 kB, Installed size: 2140 kB |
| 14:30.32 | chele | yea it is |
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| 14:31.11 | teraflop | xj54y: can you provide more information on what are you doing? |
| 14:32.04 | xj54y | teraflop, specifically, I'm trying to install the latest update of cabal with cabal install cabal-install, though it seems to fail. |
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| 14:35.23 | xj54y | teraflop, some errors for you.. http://paste.debian.net/195073/ |
| 14:35.25 | teraflop | xj54y: are you in jessie? also what are the version of ghc and cabal-install? |
| 14:36.38 | xj54y | teraflop, Na, still 7.6; GHC version 7.4.1; and trying to install cabal version 1.22.4.0 |
| 14:37.33 | teraflop | hmmm, I just use stackage |
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| 14:38.13 | xj54y | teraflop, hmm? Seems to be missing from repo.. |
| 14:38.24 | teraflop | xj54y: so much drama using ghc from the os repos whatever os it is |
| 14:38.39 | xj54y | Really? :-( |
| 14:38.40 | teraflop | xj54y: i dont think stackage is on the repos |
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| 14:38.51 | teraflop | xj54y: for me? yes |
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| 14:40.50 | xj54y | teraflop, meh.. Even as such, I'd still need to update to a later version of ghc to play with stackage. *sigh* |
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| 14:44.19 | teraflop | z1mme_: even using a cabal sandbox? |
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| 14:45.25 | teraflop | ups |
| 14:45.33 | teraflop | xj54y: even using a cabal sandbox? |
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| 14:47.26 | z1mme | teraflop: I use all sandboxes available :O |
| 14:47.54 | xj54y | teraflop, Yes, as given by OS repos.. I'm currently looking to see if there's any who are seriously maintaining the latest of haskell and such for debain. Otherwise, it may be that I'll need to apt-get remove and build my own packages |
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| 14:48.24 | xj54y | Additionally, I'm an entire release out of date. Not sure if I want to update :-( |
| 14:48.34 | teraflop | xj54y: that was my point about the drama ... |
| 14:48.54 | teraflop | so youre not in debian 8? |
| 14:49.19 | xj54y | teraflop, No. 7.6 |
| 14:49.25 | teraflop | ah |
| 14:50.02 | teraflop | hmm |
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| 14:53.09 | teraflop | xj54y: oh I logged out so you need cabal-install 1.22.whatever? |
| 14:53.20 | teraflop | ,v cabal-install |
| 14:53.21 | judd | Package: cabal-install on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.0-1; wheezy: 0.14.0-2; jessie: 1.20.0.3-1; stretch: 1.20.0.3-1; sid: 1.22.0.1-3 |
| 14:53.29 | myztic | need something like crontab that can deal with down-time and maybe even execute commands after certain amount of run-time / system-up-time |
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| 14:53.45 | myztic | there is anacron of course, does anyone know whether fcron is better? |
| 14:53.49 | xj54y | teraflop, No worries.. Yeah, I need 1.22 |
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| 14:54.18 | teraflop | so in sid, uhm |
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| 14:57.43 | chaton | hello, there are git users here? I want to color the format %G? according to its value. An idea? thank you |
| 14:58.27 | centrx | chaton, Try #git |
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| 15:04.06 | xj54y | Why does the haskell-doc package contain only two files that don't cover what is described as "This metapackage provides all the documentation for Haskell, "the" standard lazy functional programming language, packaged for Debian." ? |
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| 15:05.19 | nitelife | howdy all |
| 15:05.20 | centrx | xj54y, A metapackage is an otherwise empty package that depends on other packages, which have the files |
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| 15:06.34 | xj54y | centrx, Oh.. Which package may contain the docs? |
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| 15:07.32 | centrx | xj54y, apt-cache show haskell-doc will show you which packages it Depends on |
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| 15:10.29 | xj54y | centrx, aha.. That works nicely. :-) Gratsi |
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| 15:11.12 | markand | is there systemd timers that reloads apt cache? because I wonder how Package Updater can check if there are updates |
| 15:12.09 | nitelife | I have a question about setting up OpenVPN |
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| 15:13.06 | nitelife | I want to connect to my VPN via the network manager, but I can't seem to import the config file. |
| 15:13.34 | nitelife | Anyone else experienced this? |
| 15:14.09 | teraflop | markand: I don't know, but it doesn't seem dificult to setup one |
| 15:14.30 | ChrisH | nitelife: I did remember it looked like here http://askubuntu.com/questions/187511/how-can-i-use-a-ovpn-file-with-network-manager |
| 15:14.48 | markand | the question is more like : I wonder the use case of Package Updater if you cannot update the cache with it |
| 15:14.54 | markand | if there are no update it closes |
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| 15:15.04 | markand | while synaptic allows you to reload the repository |
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| 15:16.00 | teraflop | markand: whatever, write a timer that matches a .service for that purposes |
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| 15:44.57 | ryao | I do not run Debian, but I have been asked to file a bug against Debian to request that a proposed upstream patch be backported. Where do I find the report bug utility's source code so that I can compile it and use it to do the report? |
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| 15:47.18 | dimitry7 | whats the best way to log everything a user does? |
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| 15:47.45 | centrx | ryao, http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/reportbug/reportbug_6.6.3.tar.bz2 |
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| 15:48.44 | ryao | centrx: Thanks. |
| 15:49.38 | centrx | ryao, but you don't need to use that |
| 15:49.51 | centrx | ryao, You can send an e-mail to the Bug Reporting System with the right commands |
| 15:50.22 | centrx | ryao, https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 15:53.55 | ctmjr | dimitry7: stand over the user with a pen and paper |
| 15:54.00 | ryao | centrx: I am not setup to send emails that way from my work email. :/ |
| 15:54.17 | dimitry7 | ctmjr, I though logging commands existed |
| 15:54.27 | dimitry7 | I just wanted to know the best way, because sudo doesn't log a shit |
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| 15:55.33 | ryao | centrx: I think I will set that up now. |
| 15:55.43 | Resilience | waht block devices privdes qemu-block-extra? |
| 15:55.56 | centrx | ryao, ok, I'm not sure what you mean, it's just a plain text e-mail |
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| 16:01.12 | bezaban | dimitry7: SELinux uses audit.d which is part of the kernel, think it can be used standalone |
| 16:01.24 | bezaban | ,v audit.d |
| 16:01.25 | judd | No package named 'audit.d' was found in amd64. |
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| 16:02.19 | bezaban | ah, no '.' |
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| 16:10.06 | ctmjr | dimitry7: your looking for what a user ran as sudo? |
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| 16:12.15 | dimitry7 | bezaban, I have this: export PROMPT_COMMAND='RETRN_VAL=$?;logger -p local6.debug "$(whoami) [$$]: $(history 1 | sed "s/^[ ]*[0-9]\+[ ]*//" ) [$RETRN_VAL]"' |
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| 16:13.05 | dimitry7 | I am looking for something Better |
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| 16:14.06 | marsje | Am I correct that device can be mounted multiple times to different mount paths and that multiple devices can be mounted to a single mount point too? |
| 16:14.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | the former, yes. the latter, i doubt it. |
| 16:14.42 | bezaban | mount point is busy I think it says |
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| 16:14.53 | NoImNotNineVolt | that wouldn't even make sense. |
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| 16:17.38 | bezaban | actually neither seem to work |
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| 16:18.11 | bezaban | via nfs or iscsi it will work, but thats a different case entirely |
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| 16:18.36 | marsje | I do have a strange system hardware wise |
| 16:19.28 | agend | hi all - i have a problem - when i try: "sudo apt-get install liblcms1-dev" after apt-get update i get: "Package liblcms1-dev is not available, but is referred to by another package...." - and it used to work - has anything changed or server with repositories is down? |
| 16:19.36 | marsje | I see this: |
| 16:19.38 | marsje | /dev/sdb1 on /media/d9e60294-05e9-11e5-9747-00c088088888 type ext4 (rw) |
| 16:19.41 | marsje | /dev/sdc1 on /media/d9e60294-05e9-11e5-9747-00c088088888 type ext4 (rw) |
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| 16:23.28 | nitelife | ChrisH, yeah, that was how I set it up in Mint, as well. But my new Jessie install won't connect via network manager.(Seems to work via commandline -- it imports the .ovpn file with no errors -- but I'm not 1337 enough to config it properly) |
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| 16:23.56 | petn-randall | marsje: So what is the strange part? |
| 16:24.37 | marsje | petn-randall: not sure what is supposed to happen if you mount 2 devices to one place... makes no sense to me |
| 16:25.11 | petn-randall | marsje: Oh, now I see it. Seems as though you cloned one onto the other? |
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| 16:25.46 | Juon | hello, can anyone help me to test with pidgin otr in irc? |
| 16:26.06 | petn-randall | marsje: UUIDs should be "world-wide" unique, apparently you did an exact copy. Unmount both, and generate new UUIDs for one of them (it's a painless and rather safe process). |
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| 16:27.01 | marsje | petn-randall: the uuid is the filesystem uuid, but the filesystem appears as 2 different devices and I use the uuid to create the mount point |
| 16:27.36 | marsje | petn-randall: I was surprised I could mount multiple devices to the same mount point |
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| 16:30.14 | peterrooney | marsje: a filesystem is mounted at a directory, and once mounted, the top-level dir of that filesystem is now a dir visibble somewhere under / |
| 16:30.35 | peterrooney | s/visibble/visible/ |
| 16:33.26 | agend | looks like i can install packages like: libjpeg8 in debian wheezy - but can't in jessie. What am I supposed to do? Wait, or look for some jessie version of them? |
| 16:34.12 | centrx | agend, Use libjpeg62-turbo |
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| 16:34.41 | centrx | agend, libjpeg8 was a fork, not really a new version of the same software. It was removed in favor of libjpeg62 |
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| 16:35.05 | jelly | agend: what do you need it for? |
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| 16:35.38 | agend | ok - i could see that from error msg - but there are some pacakges i cant see any info what todo - like: liblcms1 |
| 16:36.04 | agend | @jelly - trying to build docker image for django app |
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| 16:36.50 | jelly | agend: apt-cache search liblcms dev |
| 16:37.16 | agend | ok - thanks guys |
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| 16:41.55 | rocksteady | Hi. After the release of Jessie, my Wheezy system (7.8) did not receive a single update via apt-get. It was working fine before. Is there something special to consider? |
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| 16:42.18 | rocksteady | apt-get update doesn't throw any errors |
| 16:42.34 | centrx | rocksteady, Show us your sources.list at paste.debian.net ? |
| 16:42.37 | jelly | rocksteady: show your sources.list in a pastebin (paste.debian.net) |
| 16:43.25 | rocksteady | sources.list http://paste.debian.net/195385/ |
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| 16:45.39 | jelly | rocksteady: also for example "apt-cache policy ntfsprogs" |
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| 16:46.17 | irla | https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-2830 |
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| 16:46.24 | rocksteady | apt-cache policy ntfsprogs http://paste.debian.net/195386/ |
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| 16:47.11 | irla | https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2015-3331 |
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| 16:48.29 | T0ast_phone | Hey I really need help |
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| 16:48.48 | centrx | !ask |
| 16:48.49 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:48.56 | SixtyFold | is it easy to get unity running on debian or does it take quite a bit of custom work? |
| 16:49.02 | T0ast_phone | My debian system just goes to a flashing underscore now. It worked fine yesterday |
| 16:49.25 | NoImNotNineVolt | SixtyFold: you're the first person i've met that actually *wants* to run unity. |
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| 16:50.15 | T0ast_phone | C-can someone help? |
| 16:50.30 | SixtyFold | NoImNotNineVolt: so is that a yes it's easy like installing lxde or it takes some custom work? |
| 16:50.31 | SixtyFold | haha |
| 16:51.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | i have no idea. i hope for your sake that it's easier than ripping unity out of ubuntu :P |
| 16:51.20 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Did you get any upgrades, or change the system settings, since yesterday? |
| 16:51.24 | SixtyFold | iya, i wouldnt go that fra |
| 16:51.26 | SixtyFold | far* |
| 16:51.30 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Does nothing show up before the flashing underscore? |
| 16:51.44 | T0ast_phone | Nothing but the bios screen |
| 16:52.10 | T0ast_phone | All I did today was plug in a fan controller |
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| 16:52.29 | SixtyFold | this might sound weird, but ive never done a default install of debian, i always just use openbox or lxde, what is the default interface for Debian? haha |
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| 16:52.49 | T0ast_phone | There isn't one |
| 16:52.53 | centrx | Gnome |
| 16:53.02 | SixtyFold | centrx: thanks |
| 16:53.09 | centrx | It's horrible |
| 16:53.11 | SixtyFold | gnome 2 or 3? |
| 16:53.12 | rocksteady | centrx: jelly: does this look correct to you? http://paste.debian.net/195386/ |
| 16:53.20 | T0ast_phone | On jessie there are no default ones |
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| 16:53.51 | T0ast_phone | centrx: Is it something with the mbr? |
| 16:53.57 | SixtyFold | T0ast_phone: ahh okay, ive always done the net install, i just downloaded the dvd, i thought maybe it'd install something by default when i do it |
| 16:54.05 | centrx | ,v ntfsprogs |
| 16:54.07 | judd | Package: ntfsprogs on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.0.0-1+b1; wheezy: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1; wheezy-security: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1+deb7u2 |
| 16:54.17 | T0ast_phone | ? |
| 16:54.38 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Yeah it sounds like it could be a hard drive failure for example, assuming you did not do any kernel update |
| 16:54.48 | T0ast_phone | :0 |
| 16:54.51 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Try booting with a rescue disk and looking at or scanning the hard drive |
| 16:54.56 | centrx | or some other hardware failure |
| 16:55.09 | rocksteady | Okay, so my apt database is up to date. But why are there no updates for 5 weeks now. |
| 16:55.11 | centrx | That doesn't happen unless you changed the system in some way, or if there was a hard drive failure |
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| 16:55.16 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Well it could be the fan controller you plugged in |
| 16:55.20 | centrx | T0ast_phone, try unplugging it |
| 16:55.25 | T0ast_phone | I did |
| 16:55.26 | rocksteady | I'm just not sure if this is correct (nothing to patch/fix) or if I'm missing important updates now |
| 16:55.41 | centrx | rocksteady, maybe none of the programs you use have updates |
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| 16:55.49 | centrx | rocksteady, there haven't been that many security advisories recently |
| 16:55.58 | centrx | rocksteady, https://www.debian.org/security/2015/ |
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| 16:56.12 | rocksteady | centrx: I thought the same, but before there were updates once or twice a week. Didnt (un)install any package |
| 16:56.16 | centrx | rocksteady, 1) some of those are not updates for wheezy anyway; 2) you may not use those programs |
| 16:57.00 | T0ast_phone | How do you use a rescue disk? |
| 16:57.03 | centrx | rocksteady, I know, it could be a coincidence, there just haven't been many security updates for desktop packages recently |
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| 16:57.11 | centrx | T0ast_phone, make it on another computer/get it from somewhere, then boot up with it |
| 16:57.17 | T0ast_phone | Ok |
| 16:57.21 | centrx | rocksteady, do you use chromium? |
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| 16:57.44 | T0ast_phone | I don't think it's a hardware failure |
| 16:57.46 | rocksteady | centrx: Looks like none of the installed packages were updates. Thank you for the information. Just was a little bit nervous ;) |
| 16:57.56 | rocksteady | centrx: No I don't |
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| 16:58.06 | jelly | rocksteady: does running "apt-get dist-upgrade" show no updates are to be installed? Then you just seem to have a set of packages installed that did not have any fixed for critical or security issues during that period. |
| 16:58.25 | jelly | fixes* |
| 16:58.35 | rocksteady | apt-get dist-upgrade shows the same output as update: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 16:59.05 | jelly | in other words, your system is up to date, ignoring the fact there a whole new release |
| 16:59.38 | rocksteady | I was curious and felt the need to ask here |
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| 17:00.15 | jelly | no worries |
| 17:00.17 | rocksteady | I'm planning a clean reinstall soon, but didn't want to be vulnerable until then |
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| 17:00.32 | rocksteady | Thanks to all |
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| 17:02.35 | dindunuffins | hello can anyone help me with a kali nonhacking related question |
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| 17:09.30 | dindunuffins | hi is anyone active? |
| 17:09.38 | centrx | !kali |
| 17:09.38 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 17:09.55 | dindunuffins | hello again centrx |
| 17:09.56 | centrx | hi |
| 17:10.04 | dindunuffins | can you help me with a kali question |
| 17:10.32 | centrx | I don't know about kali specifically. Try that channel #kali-linux or ask a general question that I could answer. |
| 17:10.38 | dindunuffins | my weather is not showing up on the bar even though i have a location added |
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| 17:11.06 | irla | dindunuffins: what? |
| 17:11.12 | irla | :P |
| 17:11.19 | dindunuffins | weather next to the date and time |
| 17:11.24 | dindunuffins | on gnome |
| 17:11.33 | irla | i know |
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| 17:11.48 | dindunuffins | it's not showing up even though i have weather checked |
| 17:12.03 | dindunuffins | i only have this problem with kali |
| 17:12.04 | irla | try making a new, temporary user |
| 17:12.13 | dindunuffins | i have |
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| 17:13.14 | irla | ok, have you tried different cities/timezones? and have you checked "show weather/temp" in clock prefs->general? |
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| 17:13.54 | galegosimpatico | Is it normal my Jessie installation does not seem to ship Debian theming? As far as I can recall Wheezy and Squeeze shipped Debian theming. |
| 17:14.18 | dindunuffins | irla: the weather shows just only when i click on the date/time |
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| 17:14.35 | dindunuffins | it should show on the black bar up top next to the date/time |
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| 17:15.38 | irla | dindunuffins: iirc you'll have to add "weather report" to the top bar |
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| 17:15.51 | irla | bar/panel |
| 17:15.54 | dindunuffins | any idea how? |
| 17:16.07 | dindunuffins | if it's thru the mozilla extensions i've tried that |
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| 17:16.32 | centrx | galegosimpatico, Maybe it was one of the items to select during installation? Presumably Gnome themes are installable from some package? |
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| 17:17.15 | irla | dindunuffins: alt+right clock the top panel, "add to panel" |
| 17:17.56 | sheap | is there a guide on building debian packages that just contain scripts with dh? |
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| 17:18.26 | centrx | sheap, Try #debian-mentors on irc.freenode.net |
| 17:18.49 | sheap | oftc or freenode |
| 17:18.52 | galegosimpatico | Maybe? From Squeeze times I'm used to do nondesktop install and then install kde-plasma-desktop. |
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| 17:19.55 | centrx | sheap, oh you're right, sorry, OFTC |
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| 17:20.19 | galegosimpatico | In Wheezy that used to set debian theming, but IINM in Jessie that installs plasma with a default theme that reminds that of Kubuntu 14.04. But trying to finding something else I see only what seem KDE base themes. |
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| 17:21.17 | centrx | galegosimpatico, Looks like you want to install kdeartwork and/or plasma-desktopthemes-artwork |
| 17:21.26 | galegosimpatico | Oh my maybe I missed installing task-kde-desktop |
| 17:21.41 | galegosimpatico | Which I use to install but I don't recall installing this last time |
| 17:22.04 | galegosimpatico | I write down your suggestion. |
| 17:22.19 | galegosimpatico | The box is not at hand. |
| 17:22.41 | centrx | Indeed |
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| 17:23.26 | dindunuffins | irla: Thank you VERY MUCH! |
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| 17:26.43 | kombi | as if it hadn't happened many times before... trapped in the udev kernel deadlock. How do I escape? |
| 17:28.04 | T0ast_phone | centrx: ok, I've burned sysresccd |
| 17:28.09 | T0ast_phone | What now? |
| 17:28.23 | centrx | boot up with it |
| 17:28.33 | centrx | run memtest or hard drive scan or look around on the filesystem |
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| 17:30.09 | T0ast_phone | centrx, Which option do I select in grub? |
| 17:30.13 | galegosimpatico | Thank you for your kind support. |
| 17:30.18 | kombi | how do I upgrade the kernel when udev won't let me? |
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| 17:30.53 | centrx | T0ast_phone, the rescue CD is showing grub? |
| 17:30.59 | T0ast_phone | Yes |
| 17:31.22 | centrx | what are the options? |
| 17:31.53 | T0ast_phone | Boot from sysresccd, or from my normal system |
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| 17:32.25 | greycat | kombi: what Debian version, what kernel version now, what udev version now, what kernel are you trying to install? |
| 17:32.36 | centrx | T0ast_phone, well yeah boot from the rescue CD |
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| 17:32.50 | T0ast_phone | Oh ok |
| 17:34.00 | T0ast_phone | I opened gparted and it looks different |
| 17:34.04 | kombi | greycat: jessie, 2.6.32-5-686, udev 175-7.2 |
| 17:34.22 | greycat | How on earth are you on jessis with a 2.6.32 kernel? |
| 17:34.37 | kombi | greycat: I wonder myself... |
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| 17:34.42 | greycat | and a udev that's like 42 versions behind |
| 17:35.04 | greycat | Are you sure you have completely upgraded from whatever you had to jessie? It sounds like you're half way in between two releases. |
| 17:35.10 | greycat | ,v udev |
| 17:35.11 | judd | Package: udev on amd64 -- squeeze: 164-3; wheezy: 175-7.2; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-17; jessie-proposed-updates: 215-17+deb8u1; stretch: 215-18; sid: 220-4 |
| 17:35.25 | T0ast_phone | centrx: oh wait, the partitions look fine |
| 17:35.26 | kombi | greycat: did run dist-upgrade on wheezy before |
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| 17:36.16 | kombi | greycat: but yes, it feels like somewhere in a black whole... |
| 17:36.18 | greycat | So you started... on what, squeeze? With the squeeze kernel, then you tried to upgrade to wheezy but kept the squeeze kernel, then tried to upgrade to jessie with the squeeze kernel, and udev said "nuh-uh"? |
| 17:36.48 | greycat | I would imagine you need to upgrade to wheezy's kernel first (3.2.x), then upgrade to jessie's udev, then finally jessie's kernel. |
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| 17:37.35 | kombi | greycat: so would you reckon I sed sources.list to wheezy first? |
| 17:37.49 | jelly | kombi: you can't skip releases, that's not supported |
| 17:37.54 | kombi | greycat: maybe I just overlooked that box was still on squeeze.. |
| 17:38.01 | kombi | (damn) |
| 17:38.08 | T0ast_phone | centrx: how to I do a drive check? By the way, my SSD has the boot stuff on it. |
| 17:38.15 | kombi | jelly: I know... |
| 17:38.21 | greycat | I would probably grab wheezy's udev .deb file and just install it with dpkg -i. |
| 17:38.28 | greycat | Then apt-get -f install. |
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| 17:38.47 | kombi | greycat: good idea |
| 17:39.01 | jelly | kombi: did you read wheezy release notes at the time of squeeze->wheezy? |
| 17:39.21 | kombi | read all I could find jelly...;) |
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| 17:40.52 | jelly | kombi: it explicitely says you need to reboot after upgrading the kernel, so something around that time has gone amiss |
| 17:41.05 | kombi | jelly: true... |
| 17:41.46 | sheap | does lsb_release -a work in debian-installer? |
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| 17:51.06 | kombi | jelly: 13:50:29 up 551 days <- that might explain it..;) |
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| 17:52.29 | kombi | rebooting now, wish me luck... |
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| 17:53.47 | arminius | 8) |
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| 18:09.39 | T0ast_phone | centrx: I still can't figure out what to do |
| 18:10.13 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Does the rescue CD have some features listed somewhere? |
| 18:10.35 | kombi | greycat, jelly: ;) |
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| 18:11.46 | T0ast_phone | centrx: I scanned the disks and stuff and it doesn't look like anything is out of sorts |
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| 18:12.32 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Can you look at the /boot directory of the disk? |
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| 18:12.50 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Make sure you have scanned and look at the disks inside the computer, not scanning the CD you're running the rescue off of |
| 18:13.17 | T0ast_phone | Yeah I scanned the discs |
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| 18:13.33 | T0ast_phone | What should I be looking for in /boot? |
| 18:13.46 | yokisho_ | hi |
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| 18:14.26 | centrx | T0ast_phone, something like make sure all the files are there, like: System.map-4.0.0-1-amd64 config-4.0.0-1-amd64 grub initrd.img-4.0.0-1-amd64 vmlinuz-4.0.0-1-amd64 |
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| 18:14.27 | yokisho_ | do you any time installed php + mssql?¿ i am using freetds and i can not retrieve data nchar in chinese |
| 18:14.37 | centrx | T0ast_phone, Also, as I believe you mentioned, maybe the MBR just needs to be 're-installed' with grub |
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| 18:14.59 | T0ast_phone | Oh... how do you do that? O.o |
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| 18:15.04 | centrx | yokisho_, make sure the config is right? |
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| 18:15.19 | Christoph_vW | I would like to install debian in text mode in kvm - but the language selection is broken |
| 18:15.35 | Christoph_vW | I get |
| 18:15.37 | Christoph_vW | Language: |
| 18:15.38 | Christoph_vW | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.40 | Christoph_vW | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.40 | centrx | T0ast_phone, I think it's just grub-install /dev/sda (or other device) |
| 18:15.41 | Christoph_vW | Prompt: '?' for help, default=2> ? |
| 18:15.43 | yokisho_ | i don't know :O |
| 18:15.45 | centrx | !enter |
| 18:15.45 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 18:15.52 | T0ast_phone | oh ok |
| 18:15.55 | yokisho_ | centrx, how can i check this? |
| 18:16.15 | centrx | yokisho_, and you also need ODBC installed as I recall, probably unixodbc |
| 18:16.29 | centrx | yokisho_, read about freetds config e.g. here: http://www.freetds.org/userguide/freetdsconf.htm |
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| 18:16.45 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: i don't know where that comes from. doesn't look like any debian installer dialog i know of. |
| 18:17.00 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: what image are you using for the install? |
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| 18:17.39 | Christoph_vW | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.59 | Christoph_vW | with virt-install --location |
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| 18:18.14 | tswartz | Where is VRRP in the 4.0 kernel config menu? |
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| 18:18.35 | cyph3x | Wondering if anyone would be able to clarify this issue for me: |
| 18:18.35 | T0ast_phone | centrx: I tried that and it says "/dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive". I did put a BIOS partition on there... |
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| 18:19.00 | galegosimpatico | C is not an option? |
| 18:19.09 | Christoph_vW | what is "C" ? |
| 18:19.15 | centrx | T0ast_phone, try 'lsblk' to see what block devices are available |
| 18:19.16 | galegosimpatico | Unlocalized. |
| 18:19.26 | galegosimpatico | Historically faster than localized. |
| 18:19.27 | cyph3x | I am trying to install KDE with (apt-get install kde-full). It is insisting I insert a disc. How would I tell it to install from a repos? |
| 18:19.42 | Christoph_vW | and the help is a bad joke... |
| 18:19.44 | T0ast_phone | centrx: done that |
| 18:19.48 | greycat | edit your /etc/apt/sources.list, comment out (or just delete) all the CD lines, re-run apt-get update |
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| 18:19.50 | yokisho_ | centrx, i got this message: [FreeTDS][SQL Server]The statement failed because column 'text_chinese_nchar' (ID=2) uses collation Chinese_Traditional_Pinyin_100_CI_AS, which is not recognized by older client drivers. |
| 18:19.51 | galegosimpatico | Nowadays I don't know if pays the price. |
| 18:19.52 | Christoph_vW | it just displays the same menu again |
| 18:20.35 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: i don't know "virt-install --location". so is that virt-install that's asking that question? |
| 18:20.41 | centrx | yokisho_, what 'version' are you using in the freetds conf? |
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| 18:20.59 | Christoph_vW | SynrG: no, just the text mode installer of debian |
| 18:21.08 | centrx | yokisho_, also search for this error message online, there is some good info about it |
| 18:21.21 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: 'C' is the default locale with no localizations applied |
| 18:21.33 | centrx | T0ast_phone, is /dev/sda a block device? |
| 18:21.36 | Christoph_vW | yeah, that seems to work |
| 18:21.40 | SynrG | so, english, everything default |
| 18:21.53 | cyph3x | greycat: that did it. thanks sexy. |
| 18:21.53 | T0ast_phone | centrx: it's listed... |
| 18:21.53 | centrx | T0ast_phone, it's possible this is a BIOS issue, maybe the BIOS doesn't know which partition to hand off too, that's something to keep in mind/check in the BIOS |
| 18:22.01 | SynrG | but i wouldn't ever expect to see a menu with only "C" and English in it |
| 18:22.01 | T0ast_phone | Oh |
| 18:22.03 | Christoph_vW | when I select english and country germany I cannot select the proper timezone |
| 18:22.24 | T0ast_phone | centrx: this is odd because it was working fine yesterday |
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| 18:22.37 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: did you clip the context? is that an excerpt from a much larger list? if so, that's what confused me. |
| 18:22.58 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: and use paste.debian.net for pasting larger amounts of material, btw |
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| 18:23.16 | lelo | what would a "$@" in a shell script mean? |
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| 18:23.21 | T0ast_phone | centrx: how do I check? |
| 18:23.29 | dindunuffins | quit |
| 18:23.38 | greycat | lelo: it means "all of the positional parameters, as a list" |
| 18:23.49 | centrx | T0ast_phone, look in the BIOS settings for like "Boot Drive" or something |
| 18:24.00 | lelo | greycat: hmm... thank you, but I still don't understand... what are positional parameters? |
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| 18:24.09 | cyph3x | TheSoph: you here? |
| 18:24.10 | greycat | lelo: the arguments given to the script, or to a function |
| 18:24.26 | T0ast_phone | centrx: What do you think happened since yesterday? |
| 18:24.35 | greycat | like, if your script is named "ls" and you type "ls -l foo" then the positional parameters are "-l" and "foo" |
| 18:24.44 | TheSoph | cyph3x: Sure, for a few minutes |
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| 18:24.48 | lelo | greycat: I see. Thank you :-)* |
| 18:25.12 | Christoph_vW | SynrG: no, I only get these two options |
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| 18:25.29 | cyph3x | Yo, i spent all of yesterday installing those open source OS onto my nexus 5 |
| 18:25.39 | centrx | T0ast_phone, no idea, maybe the BIOS battery ran out of juice or something, maybe it is a hardware failure from the motherboard/HD controller or something, maybe you accidentally installed something or have auto-updates running |
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| 18:25.53 | T0ast_phone | Hmm... |
| 18:26.27 | cyph3x | TheSoph: Sailfish OS on my Nexus 5 installed, and its amazing. |
| 18:26.32 | cybrNaut | "Your version (4.3-11+b1) of bash appears to be out of date." <= how is that possible, when i'm on jessie and there is no bash update suggested by aptitude? |
| 18:27.03 | TheSoph | Sweet |
| 18:27.07 | cybrNaut | reportbug gave that message, btw |
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| 18:27.22 | TheSoph | Mind you, because it's still an unofficial port you can probably expect an issue here and there |
| 18:27.40 | centrx | cybrNaut, that's odd, maybe a bug in reportbug, because it's not the "latest" version in unstable |
| 18:27.47 | dindunuffins | I just broke my Note 3, what's the best droid phone I can get at the moment? |
| 18:27.48 | TheSoph | But as I mentioned last time, when Jolla releases their tablet with SailfishOS 2.0 they will also release the official build for Nexus 5, they said |
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| 18:28.05 | TheSoph | So consider the current version as.. a tutorial for version 2 :) |
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| 18:28.37 | TheSoph | cyph3x: And in that MultiROM thread there was also links to Ubuntu Touch (available in multirom, even) and FirefoxOS if you want |
| 18:28.43 | TheSoph | But SailfishOS is pretty sweet |
| 18:28.50 | cybrNaut | centrx: okay, thanks |
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| 18:30.20 | alfatau | hello all. I've jessie installed. The default kernel seems not supporting usb-attached-scsi(uas), but only (bulk-transfer-only)bot. is it correct? or should I do something to enable it? thank you for your attention |
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| 18:31.22 | nomenclature | hello, I've been going round the houses a fair bit with following a guide to install ISPConfig3 on Debian - the conclusion in #web is that there is a problem with the repo version of PHPmyAdmin - the problem is that when I attempt to go to PHPmyAdmin in my browser, it is downloading a file instead of taking me there :-) Has anybody come across a similar experience please? |
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| 18:31.35 | jhutchins | ,v bash |
| 18:31.37 | judd | Package: bash on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.1-3; squeeze-security-lts: 4.1-3+deb6u2; wheezy: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3; jessie: 4.3-11+b1; sid: 4.3-12; stretch: 4.3-12 |
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| 18:31.45 | nomenclature | the end goal is to successfully complete https://www.howtoforge.com/multiserver-setup-with-dedicated-web-email-dns-and-mysql-database-servers-on-debian-squeeze-with-ispconfig-3 |
| 18:32.08 | nomenclature | but****on Wheezy |
| 18:32.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's bad practice to run that all on the same box. |
| 18:32.16 | cyph3x | TheSoph: Right, I tried Ubuntu Touch and I hated it |
| 18:32.21 | dyce | I have a multimeter that has an api, im trying to estimate how much my intel nuc is using by plotting out wattage use and cpu% against epoch time. what would be good measurements for ram and disk io? |
| 18:32.35 | jhutchins | cyph3x: It's probably reading the version number incorrectly. |
| 18:32.39 | cyph3x | TheSoph: Terrible OS when compared to Sailfish |
| 18:32.46 | TheSoph | Yep |
| 18:33.12 | nomenclature | NolmNotNineVolt was that to me or someone else :-) |
| 18:33.33 | cyph3x | TheSoph: Anyway, it was nice chatting. Good tip on Sailfish. Peace! |
| 18:33.42 | NoImNotNineVolt | to you. |
| 18:33.43 | T0ast_phone | centrx: I'm stuck... |
| 18:33.49 | TheSoph | Same.. peace out, yolo |
| 18:33.54 | TheSoph | :( |
| 18:34.07 | centrx | T0ast_phone, what's going on, have you checked the BIOS? |
| 18:34.14 | nomenclature | NolmNotNineVolt - sure that's why that guide is supposed to address it :-) |
| 18:34.14 | crazydip | How do I get MongoDB 3+ packages in Jessie? Ones that actually work with systemd :) |
| 18:34.15 | T0ast_phone | Yes |
| 18:34.30 | centrx | T0ast_phone, grub-install refuses to install on /dev/sda ? what other block devices do you have (paste.debian.net ?) |
| 18:34.36 | NoImNotNineVolt | fair enough, i didn't click. |
| 18:34.43 | nomenclature | oh its alright :) |
| 18:34.47 | nomenclature | i'm doing this in VM's |
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| 18:34.51 | nomenclature | KVM |
| 18:35.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | that works. or even cgroups would probably be okay. |
| 18:35.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | i only meant to encourage some degree of separation (not necessarily physical). |
| 18:35.23 | nomenclature | NolmNotNineVolt sure, but there is a key issue that I can't move past :) |
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| 18:35.52 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: so yeah, i don't know what virt-install does here. maybe it's somehow influenced by your LC_ALL in the environment in which it's run? |
| 18:35.52 | nomenclature | why can't I autocomplete your name NolmNotNineVolt |
| 18:35.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | i'd love to help, but unfortunately i can only nitpick out-of-context statements in here. too busy to dive into something like that. |
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| 18:36.06 | NoImNotNineVolt | nomenclature: the third character, it's a capital i. |
| 18:36.12 | SynrG | Christoph_vW: normally the installer presents more than just those two. |
| 18:36.20 | nomenclature | NoImNotNineVolt: ahhhh! |
| 18:36.27 | nomenclature | well thanks anyway :) |
| 18:36.55 | nomenclature | anybody else got anything they might be kind enough to throw into the mix please? |
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| 18:37.48 | nomenclature | the reason I ask in #debian is it's being insinuated that there may be an issue with phpmyadmin available from the repo |
| 18:37.50 | T0ast_phone | centrx: http://i.imgur.com/3zJ8vD6.jpg |
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| 18:38.10 | greycat | ,v phpmyadmin |
| 18:38.11 | judd | Package: phpmyadmin on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:3.3.7-7; squeeze-security: 4:3.3.7-7; squeeze-security-lts: 4:3.3.7-8; wheezy: 4:3.4.11.1-2+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4:3.4.11.1-2+deb7u1; jessie: 4:4.2.12-2; stretch: 4:4.4.7-1; sid: 4:4.4.8-1 |
| 18:38.24 | greycat | Oh, that's actually packaged... huh. Well OK then. |
| 18:38.44 | nomenclature | greycat: i'm not sure what you are trying to tell me :-) |
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| 18:39.10 | nomenclature | I'm not meaning to be negative - i'm just wondering if there is something where an accident/mistakes happened and it's led to my experience :) |
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| 18:39.12 | greycat | I was hoping it would be one of those things that's so bad that it's not even packaged, so we could just say "don't use that". |
| 18:39.12 | centrx | T0ast_phone, do you know what sda and sdb are? you have two different HDs installed? |
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| 18:39.35 | T0ast_phone | centrx: sda is my SSD, sdb is my HDD |
| 18:39.35 | nomenclature | greycat: doesn't help me much with my overall goal i'm afraid :) |
| 18:39.39 | greycat | But since it's packaged, I guess you'll have to wait for someone who knows anything about it to help you. |
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| 18:40.17 | centrx | T0ast_phone, and the BIOS knows which one to boot from? |
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| 18:40.35 | T0ast_phone | That's what is confusing me |
| 18:41.10 | centrx | T0ast_phone, What does the BIOS show? |
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| 18:41.15 | T0ast_phone | The mobo lists the SSD as being there but it doesn't show up in the boot order list, centrx |
| 18:41.25 | centrx | hmm there you go |
| 18:41.29 | nomenclature | greycat: it wouldn't be greatly helpful if you were to say "don't use it" -> the guide i'm trying to follow it requires it as a stage and I'm familiar with it - there are some really talented people (as I am sure you are) that don't need a tool like that, there's some of us that will but, as I say, thanks anyway. |
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| 18:41.59 | centrx | T0ast_phone, I know this sounds nuts, but maybe it got loose somehow, mini-earthquake? |
| 18:42.11 | T0ast_phone | What got loose? |
| 18:42.18 | centrx | the connectors in the machine |
| 18:42.20 | centrx | is this a laptop? |
| 18:42.21 | T0ast_phone | Oh |
| 18:42.28 | T0ast_phone | No it's a desktop |
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| 18:42.44 | centrx | T0ast_phone, ok yeah that's what I would do myself at this point, is make sure everything is secure physically |
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| 18:43.12 | T0ast_phone | centrx: Why would I be able to use it if it wasn't plugged in? |
| 18:43.21 | T0ast_phone | :x |
| 18:43.35 | centrx | I know, you're right of course, but the BIOS doesn't see it for some reason, when it used to yesterday |
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| 18:43.45 | T0ast_phone | Oh ok |
| 18:43.49 | centrx | Maybe there is a way to get the BIOS to scan again, that's another option |
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| 18:45.26 | Christoph_vW | lol - who wrote the text mode installer? :D Select a location in your time zone: 1: Berlin [*], 2: Busingen, |
| 18:46.29 | T0ast_phone | centrx: there is? |
| 18:46.53 | centrx | T0ast_phone, I don't know if there is, but there has to be a way to get the BIOS to recognize it again |
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| 18:47.12 | centrx | T0ast_phone, That's either by making sure it's securely connected, or disconnecting and reconnecting it, or using some option in the BIOS to get it to detect it |
| 18:47.25 | centrx | T0ast_phone, or add it to the boot order list, it might detect it but not have it in the boot order list for some strange reason |
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| 18:48.21 | Christoph_vW | oh - lol - this extra timezone really exists - but with the spelling without umlaut it sounds kinda funny |
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| 18:50.39 | T0ast_phone | centrx: there is? |
| 18:50.43 | T0ast_phone | Oops |
| 18:51.14 | centrx | T0ast_phone, I don't know if there is, but those are the only options |
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| 18:51.16 | T0ast_phone | centrx: how do you add something to the list? |
| 18:51.23 | centrx | T0ast_phone, It's either a BIOS issue or a hardware issue |
| 18:51.42 | centrx | or there's an unknown third possibility miscellaneous |
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| 18:55.27 | T0ast_phone | centrx: that did it! |
| 18:55.34 | T0ast_phone | Thank you! |
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| 18:56.22 | T0ast_phone | The BIOS are really obscure and I had to do some second boot order for the drives -_- |
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| 18:56.50 | T0ast_phone | Thank you very much anyhow centrx <3 |
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| 18:57.46 | Resilience | what is qemu-blecok-extra package for? waht does it really provides? |
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| 19:01.19 | centrx | Excellent. |
| 19:01.22 | centrx | !next |
| 19:01.22 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 19:01.47 | centrx | Resilience, I don't see any package by that name |
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| 19:02.44 | Resilience | what is qemu-block-extra package for? what does it really provides? |
| 19:02.51 | Resilience | centrx, typo, sorry |
| 19:03.40 | centrx | I think this means it supports different rare types of hard drives (block devices) - "This package provides extra block device backend modules for qemu-system emulation and qemu-img from qemu-utils package, which are rarely used and has extra dependencies." |
| 19:04.24 | Szeraax | I'm going crazy!!! I have isc-dhcp-server installed, and when my computers that are connecting to the LAN through a polycom VVX piggyback, they can't get an IP address from PXE |
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| 19:04.34 | Resilience | centrx, I understand what it says, but it provides no info about waht kind of block devices it gives support |
| 19:04.49 | Szeraax | If I plug computer into wall, gets IP no problem. Even when I first reboot the phone, it has no problem. |
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| 19:05.08 | Szeraax | But later, computer does a discover, DHCP server sends an offer, and the computer never sends the request. |
| 19:05.31 | centrx | Resilience, Yeah good point, file a bug |
| 19:05.39 | Szeraax | (assuming that means that the computer doesn't get the offer from server due to something from the phone). Not any VLANs. |
| 19:05.41 | centrx | Resilience, You can also download it/download the source package and see what's inside, that should tell you |
| 19:06.41 | Resilience | centrx, I thought about downaloading it, but as I am not using qemu can't made my mind to how would I know what this package provides |
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| 19:07.36 | centrx | Resilience, It may come with a Readme, or it may come with modules that have clear names, like intel_scsi or something |
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| 19:07.55 | Resilience | centrx, mmmm |
| 19:08.34 | critter | hi, I have two servers running two different debian versions (stable). How can I upgrade the oldest? |
| 19:09.09 | yokisho_ | centrx, thanks! but i don't know how to fix it |
| 19:09.36 | centrx | critter, what version is it running? |
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| 19:13.09 | critter | centrx: 7.6 |
| 19:13.43 | centrx | critter, okay yeah, just make sure you have a line for security in your sources list, and use apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 19:13.44 | centrx | !security |
| 19:13.44 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
| 19:14.00 | centrx | critter, or wait, what's the version you want to upgrade to? |
| 19:14.05 | centrx | critter, The other one is running 8.x ? |
| 19:14.28 | critter | centrx: yes upgrade to 8.x |
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| 19:14.53 | critter | I want to dist upgrade but this is a production server and I dont want to broke it |
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| 19:15.39 | centrx | ok |
| 19:15.45 | centrx | dpkg: wheezy->jessie |
| 19:15.46 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also <jessie sysvinit>. |
| 19:15.48 | robert45 | hi guys, my software RAID is taking 50 hours to rebuild a 1TB raid array in rescue mode, how is that possible? Its rebuilding at speed=5013K/sec |
| 19:15.58 | centrx | critter, See that message above. You do of course want to back up anything important first |
| 19:16.15 | centrx | critter, And schedule some downtime, but it should go pretty smoothly |
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| 19:16.39 | Szeraax | robert45, that makes no sense! What kind of HDDs? |
| 19:16.48 | critter | centrx: thanks a lot |
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| 19:16.58 | no_gravity | Hello! Is it possible to map keys so they act as ctrl when they are hold? so for example c+p becomes CTRL-p? |
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| 19:17.29 | crazydip | critter: make a copy of your production server and use that copy to test the upgrade on, write down all steps needed, and once you get everything down right, do the same thing on production |
| 19:17.39 | c0mrad3 | I am getting this weird error how can I fix it https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ckGVNQlW/ |
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| 19:18.01 | critter | crazydip: copy as in VM? |
| 19:18.07 | crazydip | critter: yeah |
| 19:18.08 | Szeraax | no_gravity, I just googled and saw some promising articles. have you? http://askubuntu.com/questions/24916/how-do-i-remap-certain-keys-or-devices |
| 19:18.19 | critter | crazydip: ok thanks a lot |
| 19:18.20 | crazydip | critter: you could even do it on your local machine |
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| 19:19.27 | Szeraax | c0mrad3, looks like you need to unmark your gnome and gnome-core as 'held back' |
| 19:19.35 | no_gravity | Szeraax: i know how to remap keys with xmodmap. but i dont want to map c to CTRL. c should only act as CTRL when hold. when i press and release it, it should just act as c. |
| 19:19.47 | robert45 | Szeraax thanks for replying. I have two Seagate Barracuda ST1000DM003 1TB 7200 RPM |
| 19:19.57 | Szeraax | no_gravity, oooo. that's intense! Hmmmmmmmm |
| 19:20.04 | c0mrad3 | Szeraax: how to do it ?? |
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| 19:20.21 | no_gravity | Szeraax: it would be insanely useful. you could do all your coding withou leaving the homerow. |
| 19:20.22 | Szeraax | robert45, and what kind of raid? mirror? stripe? |
| 19:20.37 | crazydip | blindly upgrading without first testing is just asking for trouble... no matter how amazing Debian is, even if the upgrade is "perfect" that does not mean that you won't see problems because, for example, you have PHP / Python code that does not work 100% with the newer version of PHP / Python in Debian Jessie |
| 19:20.48 | robert45 | Szeraax RAID1 |
| 19:20.56 | crazydip | ^^ critter |
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| 19:22.00 | peterrooney | wonders which homerow P is on |
| 19:22.02 | Szeraax | c0mrad3, sorry, I misspoke, your dependancies need to be upgraded |
| 19:22.24 | Szeraax | so something like 'sudo apt-get install rygel-preferences' |
| 19:22.35 | c0mrad3 | Well I am using aptitude to fix it for me :) Szeraax |
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| 19:22.38 | Szeraax | and do that for each of the dependencies that are currently held back |
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| 19:22.48 | Szeraax | c0mrad3, I prefer aptitude for interactive :) |
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| 19:23.07 | Szeraax | some people complain about being redirected to apti, since that doesn't scale to automation well >.> |
| 19:23.55 | Szeraax | robert45, do you know that both disks are good? |
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| 19:24.16 | Szeraax | I would think that if src has read failures, it woudln't be going very fast... |
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| 19:24.34 | robert45 | Szeraax not sure, Im running long tests on smartcl for both, as far as I can see quick tests returned both disks to be healthy. dmesg doesnt show any errors neither |
| 19:25.37 | robert45 | Szeraax could it be a controller issue? |
| 19:25.54 | Szeraax | You said its a linux software raid, right, robert45? |
| 19:26.43 | robert45 | Szeraax correct |
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| 19:27.11 | Szeraax | so controller shouldn't be seeing anything special, just regular reads and writes |
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| 19:28.28 | robert45 | Szeraax I see, if disks are healthy, why would the rebuild process take so much then? |
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| 19:30.37 | c0mrad3 | Well Szeraax aptitude didn't help me :( |
| 19:30.45 | c0mrad3 | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/PVfTpXNS/ |
| 19:31.26 | Szeraax | robert45, that's why i'm scratchin my head too! |
| 19:31.33 | Onigiri | kombi: /n |
| 19:31.38 | Onigiri | oops |
| 19:31.57 | kombi | that is I..;) |
| 19:31.59 | Szeraax | c0mrad3, aptitude should be able to. if you go to Aptitude, select gnome and gone-core for install, you should get a BIG red bar at the bottom telling you about problems |
| 19:32.00 | Szeraax | yes? |
| 19:32.18 | Szeraax | You press e to examine solutions |
| 19:32.39 | c0mrad3 | yes I got then and I press y for all |
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| 19:32.53 | Szeraax | And press . to cycle through solutions until you find the one that marks various packages as upgradeable. and then ! to apply the operations |
| 19:33.02 | Szeraax | then g and g to go install. |
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| 19:33.37 | Szeraax | y for yes to all? hrmmm, my memory must be crazy, I don't recall ever having a y option |
| 19:33.54 | at0m|c | i prefer to manually select what works there |
| 19:33.56 | c0mrad3 | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eIv2q3B8/ |
| 19:34.08 | c0mrad3 | Szeraax: this is what I am getting :( |
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| 19:34.41 | at0m|c | pressing g, looking at the suggestion, try to fix, q, g for preview of retry |
| 19:35.11 | Szeraax | That's not a good solution because you still are leaving everyting as held back and uninstalled. |
| 19:35.18 | at0m|c | until i'm satisfied with what aptitude suggests |
| 19:35.34 | Szeraax | Ya, cycle through for other suggestions |
| 19:35.40 | at0m|c | going through recommends, etc |
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| 19:35.54 | c0mrad3 | what should I do now ?? |
| 19:36.06 | Szeraax | Do you know how to examine other solutions? |
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| 19:39.30 | JeanYang | is Debian using SELinux? |
| 19:39.53 | teraflop | JeanYang: oh no thanks god |
| 19:41.03 | JeanYang | teraflop: does it use AppArmour? |
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| 19:41.23 | teraflop | JeanYang: oh no thanks god again |
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| 19:43.12 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, it can use grsecurity, e.g. with Mempo, thanks god! :) |
| 19:43.12 | Amun_Ra | JeanYang: selinux not by default (but you can easily turn it on, which I recommend); apparmor not really |
| 19:43.27 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, i2p.rocks/mempo/ and/or see wiki and github |
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| 19:44.03 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, the regular debian, using only packages from official debian.org does not pack grsecurity kernel |
| 19:44.31 | rfreeman_w | it's more advanced protection then selinux and even more then apparmor |
| 19:44.32 | Amun_Ra | "thank god" |
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| 19:44.45 | Amun_Ra | depends on your definition of "more" :> |
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| 19:45.48 | JeanYang | rfreeman_w: how do I turn grsecurity on? |
| 19:45.50 | rfreeman_w | Amun_Ra, se linux does rbac and very basic kernel protection |
| 19:46.11 | rfreeman_w | Amun_Ra, grsecurity does rbac, kernel protection, and then adds tons of kernel protection, and logging and chroot jail and other things |
| 19:46.42 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, see instructions on i2p.rocks/mempo/ (this is the temporary mirror) full mempo.org should work again soon ® |
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| 19:46.58 | no_gravity | is xcape part of the debian repos? |
| 19:47.04 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, the primary finger print you can confirm with https://github.com/mempo/ |
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| 19:48.01 | Amun_Ra | rfreeman_w: I like context based system more than path based one |
| 19:48.30 | rfreeman_w | Amun_Ra, well maybe, but I don't think either is much more secure. and SE lacks all the other things |
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| 19:49.01 | Amun_Ra | rfreeman_w: I agree grsec has more to offer in kernel space |
| 19:49.21 | rfreeman_w | actually you can use grsecurity/pax system (e.g. from mempo) along with SE Linux for RBAC most likely |
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| 19:50.18 | JeanYang | I'm going to read some docs & ressources before touching SEL, AppArmour or grsecurity but, from you guys, are those kind of 3 different ways to secure your system? Is it redundant to install all 3 of them at the same time? One none of them are install by default on Debian? |
| 19:50.41 | JeanYang | -One +Why |
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| 19:51.14 | Amun_Ra | JeanYang: http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~jcg8f/SELinux%20grsecurity%20paper.pdf |
| 19:51.18 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, grsecurity+pax is best. you could install "grsecurity" but do not activate it's RBAC (its off by default) and use other RBAC, that is SE Linux |
| 19:51.31 | ompaul | !grsecurity |
| 19:51.32 | dpkg | grsecurity is a patch set to enhance Linux kernel security: provides an ACL system, auditing capabilities and institutes measures to prevent common system exploits. Packaged for Debian as linux-patch-grsecurity2, read /usr/share/doc/linux-patch-grsecurity2/README.Debian to apply. http://www.grsecurity.net/ #grsecurity on irc.oftc.net, ##grsecurity on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:51.33 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, or use "grsecurity+pax", and active App Armor for simple weak RBAC controll |
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| 19:52.05 | rfreeman_w | the "packaged for debian" part is not really true |
| 19:52.36 | rfreeman_w | you have to build the kernel yourself. and then do it each time again (~weekly). That is why in addition to learning the above information I recommend mempo, also join #mempo JeanYang . I will be tomorrow. |
| 19:52.42 | Amun_Ra | JeanYang: selinux is harder to begin with |
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| 19:54.04 | JeanYang | I don't want to compile my kernel for the moment |
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| 19:54.40 | JeanYang | there is no way to use grsec/appa/sel without compiling yourself? |
| 19:54.40 | epictetus | hi -- what's the username / password for the live CD ( sorry, ive already hit like 30 google links for this and all of them are like "DONT ASK HERE YOU SHOULD HAVE GOOGLED AND FOUND THIS PAGE < LINK TO BROKEN / GONE PAGE HERE > " |
| 19:55.10 | epictetus | debian 8.0 live cd |
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| 19:55.50 | Amun_Ra | JeanYang: there is grsec package so I guess using module assistant is doable (I haven't tested it tho) |
| 19:56.28 | c0mrad3 | how to fix this error https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/pnLSKSIy/ |
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| 19:57.05 | rfreeman_w | JeanYang, yes as described on the page I linked, which is 3rd party repository. There is no way to do this directly in debian using only debian own repositores as of now |
| 19:57.44 | epictetus | found it.. username: user password: live |
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| 19:58.29 | Amun_Ra | JeanYang: and if you need to build the kernel yourself, make a deb instead of plain install |
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| 20:00.50 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: try sudo apt-get install libcheese3 |
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| 20:01.14 | agiofws | hello |
| 20:01.14 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: the sources look fine, but i didn't get what you meant by you had them mixed and now are using the new ones |
| 20:01.32 | agiofws | i'm in a critical kind of situation... |
| 20:02.18 | agiofws | i've upgraded from wheezy to jessie but i can not get X up or anything with graphics can anyone help me debug this? |
| 20:02.38 | agiofws | my pC is a P4 |
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| 20:03.04 | agiofws | in Xorg.0.log there is only one line that states an error |
| 20:03.05 | c0mrad3 | Well I thought of using the latest version of firefox using the backports and added it to the sources list http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 20:03.07 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: try this, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* |
| 20:03.07 | agiofws | which is |
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| 20:03.24 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: and sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* |
| 20:03.27 | agiofws | [ 20.797] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 20:03.38 | agiofws | other than that |
| 20:03.42 | agiofws | ? |
| 20:03.45 | agiofws | anyone? |
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| 20:03.55 | c0mrad3 | Are u sure that I can and should do the rm thing ?? EriC^^ |
| 20:04.02 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: then sudo apt-get update |
| 20:04.10 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: yes |
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| 20:05.00 | boycottg00gle | is there a browser in debian at least trying to protect your privacy? |
| 20:05.02 | agiofws | anyone? |
| 20:06.01 | Agiofws | i've upgraded from wheezy to jessie but i can not get X up or anything with graphics can anyone help me debug this? my pC is a P4 in Xorg.0.log there is only one line that states an error which is [ 20.797] (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (module does not exist, 0) ? |
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| 20:06.31 | c0mrad3 | done EriC^^ |
| 20:06.41 | greycat | Agiofws: does your video card require the nv driver? Can you get it working with VESA? |
| 20:06.57 | yokisho_ | how do you say in english when a singer fails its voice when is singing?? |
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| 20:07.29 | yokisho_ | wrong channel sorry :X |
| 20:07.29 | greycat | Depends on what kind of "fail" you mean. Missed a note? |
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| 20:07.31 | yokisho_ | :( |
| 20:07.33 | c0mrad3 | Well now I think for people saying me sudo rm -rf ~ and sudo rm -rf / EriC^^ |
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| 20:07.52 | yokisho_ | oohms, nops when the voice is not good |
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| 20:08.07 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: ok, try installing gnome |
| 20:08.31 | c0mrad3 | one sec it's still doing update |
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| 20:08.48 | greycat | If they miss *all* the notes, there's not a specific word for it. They just suck. |
| 20:09.03 | yokisho_ | hehe :) |
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| 20:09.17 | yokisho_ | spanish yes, gallo |
| 20:09.18 | galegosimpatico | Why GNOME? |
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| 20:09.51 | Agiofws | greycat: how would i do that? |
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| 20:10.05 | c0mrad3 | EriC^^: the same error continues |
| 20:10.16 | EriC^^ | yokisho_: there's tone deaf |
| 20:10.26 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: type apt-cache policy cheese |
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| 20:10.36 | EriC^^ | which version is the candidate? |
| 20:10.36 | greycat | Agiofws: find an example xorg.conf file somewhere on the web (because you no longer GET one by default!!) and drop it in place and edit it and try "startx" again |
| 20:10.39 | Agiofws | greycat: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] (rev a1) ? |
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| 20:10.57 | greycat | Agiofws: did you install all of the non-free firmware that might be relevant? |
| 20:11.11 | c0mrad3 | https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/cv14wlf5/ |
| 20:11.29 | Agiofws | greycat: no i don't think so the upgrade wiki didn ot refer to non free how do i do that? |
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| 20:11.46 | EriC^^ | Agiofws: type dpkg -l | grep nvidia |
| 20:11.48 | valdyn | Agiofws: you still have an xorg.conf, correct? |
| 20:11.54 | greycat | I don't know this NVidia stuff very well. |
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| 20:12.15 | Agiofws | root@P4:/var/log# dpkg -l | grep nvidia |
| 20:12.16 | Agiofws | root@P4:/var/log# |
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| 20:12.48 | valdyn | Agiofws: ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 20:12.50 | greycat | on the other hand, if what valdyn is saying is true, maybe just try renaming it so it's not interfering with the new "no config" startup |
| 20:13.04 | valdyn | greycat: i think he is trying to use a driver that is no longer available |
| 20:13.24 | valdyn | greycat: namely "nv" |
| 20:13.28 | greycat | *nod* |
| 20:13.31 | Agiofws | /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory |
| 20:13.42 | ctmjr | c0mrad3: apt-get -f install see what it says |
| 20:13.46 | valdyn | Agiofws: dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 20:13.51 | yokisho_ | cool, thanks EriC^^ :) |
| 20:13.54 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: it should be version 3.14 for jessie this is my sources.list http://termbin.com/t3qn |
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| 20:14.15 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: if you want try using it, remove the lists/* and partial/* and update again |
| 20:14.30 | EriC^^ | i think that removes the list of packages, not sure |
| 20:14.40 | Agiofws | Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend |
| 20:14.42 | Agiofws | |/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 20:14.43 | Agiofws | ? |
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| 20:14.58 | valdyn | Agiofws: "apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" |
| 20:15.00 | c0mrad3 | ctmjr: it says nothing :( |
| 20:15.02 | alfatau | hello all. I'm trying to understand if the usb-storage driver is using UAS or BOT. can you help me? |
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| 20:15.26 | Agiofws | xserver-xorg-video-nouveau is already the newest version. |
| 20:15.29 | Agiofws | xserver-xorg-video-nouveau set to manually installed. valdyn |
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| 20:15.54 | EriC^^ | Agiofws: try sudo apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
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| 20:16.02 | valdyn | Agiofws: no |
| 20:16.05 | c0mrad3 | one minute EriC^^ I am to fix mine some how |
| 20:16.08 | Agiofws | valdyn: should i enable backports in sources? |
| 20:16.13 | valdyn | Agiofws: no |
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| 20:16.35 | valdyn | Agiofws: ls -l /etc/X11/xorg.conf* |
| 20:16.53 | Agiofws | ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf*: No such file or directory |
| 20:16.57 | Agiofws | no such file |
| 20:16.59 | c0mrad3 | btw what does this volatile mean in the sourses.list in ur given paste EriC^^ |
| 20:17.08 | greycat | !volatile |
| 20:17.08 | dpkg | Debian Volatile was a project aiming at keeping Debian releases up-to-date for fast moving packages such as virus scanners, spam scanners and firmware downloaders. It was replaced by the <stable-updates> suite as of Debian 6.0 "Squeeze". http://lists.debian.org/debian-volatile-announce/2012/msg00000.html |
| 20:17.28 | greycat | You shouldn't be using volatile any more. |
| 20:17.30 | EriC^^ | c0mrad3: i think it means it has newer packages |
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| 20:18.10 | Agiofws | should i just touch xorg.conf in /etc/X11? |
| 20:18.22 | valdyn | Agiofws: no |
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| 20:18.33 | teraflop | Agiofws: no! |
| 20:18.35 | EriC^^ | greycat: that's the original sources.list from an untouched debian 8 install though |
| 20:18.38 | valdyn | Agiofws: how did you try to start X ? |
| 20:19.01 | Agiofws | valdyn: i did'nt i think gdm starts automatically via boot |
| 20:19.03 | EriC^^ | greycat: oh i think it just means it used to be called volatile but now jessie-updates |
| 20:19.10 | Agiofws | i tried Xorg though |
| 20:19.17 | greycat | EriC^^: I have a clean jessie install on my home machine, and it has no volatile. |
| 20:19.29 | valdyn | Agiofws: its probably still running, gdm |
| 20:19.29 | Agiofws | the command Xorg |
| 20:19.31 | EriC^^ | greycat: no jessie-updates ? |
| 20:19.37 | Agiofws | valdyn: i agree |
| 20:19.46 | greycat | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free |
| 20:19.55 | valdyn | Agiofws: stop it, or remove it for now and reboot |
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| 20:20.27 | valdyn | Agiofws: we cant have it running while trying to debug this |
| 20:20.34 | Agiofws | but why do i get a a black screen in terminal 7 with 'line' cursor not even blinking top left? |
| 20:20.45 | valdyn | Agiofws: we dont know yet |
| 20:20.51 | greycat | Disable gdm first. Then debug. |
| 20:20.54 | Agiofws | ok i'll kill Xorg ok ? |
| 20:21.01 | valdyn | Agiofws: we are trying to debug this (to find the problem) |
| 20:21.07 | valdyn | Agiofws: yes, of course |
| 20:21.15 | valdyn | Agiofws: and check again if its gone |
| 20:21.38 | greycat | You may need to do something like "systemctl stop gdm.service" or whatever the godawful fancy name for it is now. |
| 20:21.40 | Agiofws | ok when i kill Xorg screen flashes and takes me to terminal 7 |
| 20:21.48 | Agiofws | so it re opens |
| 20:21.58 | valdyn | Agiofws: thats not conclusive |
| 20:22.13 | Agiofws | ok but how do i kill XOrg for good? |
| 20:22.20 | valdyn | Agiofws: remove the gdm package, reboot |
| 20:22.31 | greycat | (i guess that would work too) |
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| 20:22.44 | Agiofws | valdyn: greycat root@P4:/etc/X11# /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop |
| 20:22.45 | Agiofws | [ ok ] Stopping gdm3 (via systemctl): gdm3.service. |
| 20:22.53 | valdyn | Agiofws: great |
| 20:23.00 | greycat | "Let's put a 3 on it!!! That will be SO intuitive." |
| 20:23.03 | Agiofws | now kill Xorg? |
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| 20:23.09 | valdyn | Agiofws: it should be gone |
| 20:23.20 | valdyn | now you have a gfx card with 2 outputs? |
| 20:23.22 | Agiofws | root@P4:/etc/X11# pidof Xorg |
| 20:23.23 | Agiofws | root@P4:/etc/X11# |
| 20:23.32 | Agiofws | yes it does have 2 |
| 20:23.42 | valdyn | Agiofws: ok, plug your monitor into the other output |
| 20:23.43 | Agiofws | i'm using the VGA output |
| 20:24.02 | Agiofws | hmm ok wait let me find a cable |
| 20:24.03 | valdyn | Agiofws: well, you are , but X is not |
| 20:24.10 | valdyn | Agiofws: thats my bet at least |
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| 20:24.33 | valdyn | Agiofws: and thats my bet because your X stopped just fine |
| 20:24.49 | valdyn | Agiofws: and gdm does not tend to do that when X is broken |
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| 20:26.56 | Agiofws | valdyn: i don'y have that kind of cable |
| 20:27.18 | Agiofws | my screen has just a vga slot |
| 20:27.26 | valdyn | Agiofws: ok |
| 20:27.35 | Agiofws | and my card a a vga and the 'new' ones |
| 20:27.38 | valdyn | Agiofws: run "startx" |
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| 20:28.01 | Agiofws | lte me see if i can find one |
| 20:28.17 | valdyn | Agiofws: you can also use xrandr to transfer the display |
| 20:28.36 | c0mrad3 | changing my sources to ur sources list fixed my issue EriC^^ |
| 20:28.46 | valdyn | Agiofws: or you can create an Xorg.conf that does that, but i wouldnt bother with that before youre sure that X actually works |
| 20:28.53 | SOUL_OF_R00T | guys anyone known a intermediate arduino debian project or other arduino's related using debian ? |
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| 20:31.47 | Owner | how do i get a list of all installed packages |
| 20:31.55 | Owner | i thought it was dpkg --get-selections |
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| 20:32.19 | greycat | "dpkg -l" is another report, with a different purpose |
| 20:32.51 | greycat | Which one to use depends on what you wanted to do with the output. |
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| 20:33.22 | Brigo | Owner, use aptitude search --disable-columns -F%p '~i!~M!~v' |
| 20:33.33 | Owner | ah thanks....theres tons of kernels on this system |
| 20:33.40 | Owner | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:33.48 | Owner | and it says it will break if i reboot |
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| 20:34.55 | Agiofws | valdyn: i don't have a digital to vga(analog?) cable |
| 20:34.59 | Owner | apt-get remove for a kernel is complaining about libssl-dev |
| 20:35.01 | Owner | @_@ |
| 20:35.17 | greycat | Just dpkg --purge them. |
| 20:35.19 | Agiofws | should i run startx? |
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| 20:36.06 | Agiofws | should i run startx as root? |
| 20:36.09 | Owner | greycat, thanks :D |
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| 20:37.04 | japesinator | hey, I'm having some problems with X and nvidia drivers |
| 20:37.05 | GNU\colossus | Agiofws, generally speaking, probably no. |
| 20:37.06 | Agiofws | valdyn: you'd like to see xorg.0.log? |
| 20:37.28 | valdyn | Agiofws: no, just run startx |
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| 20:37.30 | japesinator | xrandr -q returns "can't open display" |
| 20:38.04 | japesinator | startx fails |
| 20:38.09 | Agiofws | valdyn: ok startx displays graphics |
| 20:38.15 | Agiofws | but it says |
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| 20:38.54 | StuckMojo | quick question. I've got a couple Squeeze servers that I'd like to bring current. I note that Jessie is now stable. Can I jump straight to it or would I be better served going to Wheezy first, then Jessie? |
| 20:38.55 | japesinator | and Xorg -configure returns "Number of created screens does not match number of devices" |
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| 20:39.20 | japesinator | I have an HP ZBook 15 connected to two monitors via displayport and vga |
| 20:39.22 | greycat | StuckMojo: you can't skip a release. You have to upgrade to wheezy first, then jessie. |
| 20:39.23 | japesinator | what should I do? |
| 20:39.28 | StuckMojo | greycat: thanks |
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| 20:40.44 | japesinator | I can only see one monitor and one screen in xorg.conf |
| 20:41.07 | japesinator | the monitor is called "Monitor0" and is of unknown vendor and model with option "DPMS" |
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| 20:41.37 | Owner | nvidia should configure it for you |
| 20:42.02 | japesinator | how should I do that? |
| 20:42.26 | japesinator | I've ran nvidia-xconfig |
| 20:42.30 | greycat | First thing to try is renaming xorg.conf so it's not used, and see if the automatic no-config X startup works. |
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| 20:42.40 | Agiofws | valdyn: startx gives me graphic screen in VT1 with this message "a problem has occured and system can't recover. All extensions have been disabled as a precaution" greycat ? |
| 20:42.57 | japesinator | greycat: will do |
| 20:43.26 | Agiofws | valdyn: and a button to logout |
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| 20:44.12 | japesinator | now I get the gnome error "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occured and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again." |
| 20:44.37 | japesinator | at least it looks like gnome |
| 20:44.39 | Agiofws | japesinator: thats exactly the same error i am getting i have no GUI |
| 20:44.50 | japesinator | and the displayport monitor is still black |
| 20:44.55 | japesinator | but the same error is on the vga one |
| 20:45.14 | Agiofws | i get that screen in ctr+alt+f1 |
| 20:45.20 | Agiofws | when i startx valdyn |
| 20:45.30 | Agiofws | what shoud i do now? |
| 20:45.54 | Agiofws | i don't even get a mouse in that screen |
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| 20:47.25 | valdyn | Agiofws: when was the last reboot? |
| 20:47.32 | valdyn | Agiofws: what is your current kernel version? |
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| 20:48.05 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.11 | cadams | just did an upgrade on sid, and usb keyboard stopped working |
| 20:48.35 | japesinator | I'm looking throught the log |
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| 20:48.40 | cadams | works within grub, but not in terminal |
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| 20:48.42 | trysten | i'm trying to use /etc/init.d/skeleton to make an initscript for syncthing. i filled it out, but when i run the script [/etc/init.d/syncthing start] it grabs the console and doesnt daemonize. |
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| 20:48.53 | Agiofws | valdyn: i tried an onlder kernel for older pc's just to see if i could fix the gui problem Linux P4 3.16.0-4-586 #1 Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1 (2015-04-24) i686 GNU/Linux |
| 20:48.56 | japesinator | I see (EE) Failed to load module "nv" (modules does not exist, 0) |
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| 20:49.13 | japesinator | (EE) [drm] KMS not enabled |
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| 20:49.18 | greycat | japesinator: that's the same symptom Agiofws reported about 30 minutes ago |
| 20:49.22 | Agiofws | lol japesinator has the same error i have i guess |
| 20:49.28 | Agiofws | :) |
| 20:49.42 | Agiofws | last reboot 2h ago? |
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| 20:49.51 | japesinator | (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) |
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| 20:50.01 | japesinator | and that's it |
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| 20:51.37 | greycat | edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 20:52.11 | Agiofws | japesinator: whats your CPU or gfx card? |
| 20:52.18 | japesinator | CPU is an 17 |
| 20:52.19 | valdyn | Agiofws: your error happens when X cannot query dbus - i cant fix it. A reboot always fixed it for me. |
| 20:52.22 | japesinator | i7 |
| 20:52.29 | japesinator | GPU is a quadro k1100m |
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| 20:52.40 | valdyn | Agiofws: maybe your upgrade is incomplete and that is why dbus is broken |
| 20:52.49 | valdyn | Agiofws: or maybe you just need to reboot |
| 20:52.57 | Agiofws | why is dbus broken how do you know that? |
| 20:53.03 | greycat | (I thought you already told him to remove gdm and reboot.) |
| 20:53.07 | valdyn | Agiofws: I didnt say that |
| 20:53.13 | Agiofws | upgrading did not complain about anything |
| 20:53.19 | valdyn | greycat: yea, but he never did reboot |
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| 20:53.38 | valdyn | Agiofws: incomplete does not mean wrong or that it had to complain |
| 20:53.43 | Agiofws | apt-get remove gdm? |
| 20:53.54 | valdyn | startx shows the same error |
| 20:53.58 | trysten | Can I ask again in ten minutes? how can run-daemon fail to daemonize something? |
| 20:54.08 | valdyn | and the graphics *do* actually start |
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| 20:54.24 | valdyn | so X is ok by itself, but it cannot query input devices etc |
| 20:54.25 | greycat | trysten: which version of Debian? Can you skip the sysvinit stuff forever? |
| 20:54.44 | Agiofws | valdyn: ok do i do apt-get remove gdm? |
| 20:54.49 | Agiofws | and reboot? |
| 20:55.40 | trysten | cat /etc/issue.net |
| 20:56.06 | Agiofws | i've already rebooted 3 times to fix this so i don;t think a reboot will solve any issue if i don;t change anything before hand |
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| 20:56.21 | greycat | Agiofws: removing gdm counts as changing something |
| 20:56.27 | Agiofws | ok |
| 20:56.40 | trysten | >.> sory. one second. |
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| 20:57.13 | Agiofws | greycat: gdm3 - GNOME Display Manager ? |
| 20:57.18 | trysten | wheezy, greycat. What do you mean by skpping sysvinit? I wouldn't add the script to my boot sequence until it was working properly |
| 20:57.20 | trdo | could someone help me |
| 20:57.27 | hblack | yes |
| 20:57.29 | greycat | trysten: which version of Debian are you on? |
| 20:57.39 | trdo | what web browser do most debian users use |
| 20:57.39 | trysten | greycat: wheezy. 7. |
| 20:57.39 | greycat | Oh. Wheezy. Ugh. |
| 20:57.40 | Agiofws | The following packages will be REMOVED: gdm3 gnome gnome-core task-gnome-desktop |
| 20:57.54 | greycat | trysten: gods, sysvinit suck so horribly much |
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| 20:58.15 | Agiofws | lol |
| 20:58.19 | trysten | greycat: gosh. i thought that might be the case. ok fuck it, what's another way i can make sure it's started? Cron? |
| 20:58.20 | Agiofws | i just removed gnome? |
| 20:58.30 | Agiofws | whats the purpose then ? |
| 20:58.32 | greycat | trysten: does the thing you're trying to write a boot script for normally run in the foreground? If so, it might be better in the long run if you learned some other boot system that's easier, and just use that until you migrate to jessie/systemd in the future. |
| 20:58.40 | Agiofws | if i don't have a gui to run? |
| 20:58.56 | valdyn | Agiofws: nothing important got removed |
| 20:59.00 | Agiofws | ok |
| 20:59.01 | trysten | greycat: what are the downsides to using systemd on wheezy? |
| 20:59.06 | Agiofws | rebooting then ok ? |
| 20:59.09 | valdyn | Agiofws: except for gdm, but you cant have that anyway, to debug X |
| 20:59.10 | greycat | I have no idea. I never tried it. |
| 20:59.19 | valdyn | Agiofws: of course |
| 20:59.35 | greycat | I use(d) DJB's "daemontools" for years. (Still have it installed on jessie, too.) |
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| 20:59.56 | trysten | lol daemon tools. that takes me back |
| 21:00.08 | greycat | A run script for a foreground program in daemontools can be literally two lines. |
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| 21:00.34 | greycat | sysvinit will require you to learn a whole bunch of Debian-specific hacks like start-stop-daemon |
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| 21:01.07 | jhutchins | trdo: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 21:01.22 | agiofws | greycat: valdyn ok back no gui what now? |
| 21:01.29 | arminius | daemontools was pretty cool actually. the way djb thinks is strange, though. |
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| 21:01.54 | trdo | I think poeple use MagicISO |
| 21:01.57 | greycat | He's a mathematician. |
| 21:01.58 | trdo | Damontools had spyware |
| 21:02.13 | greycat | trdo: you might be thinking of the Windows CD-ROM thing. Totally unrelated. |
| 21:02.27 | arminius | greycat: that doesn't justify writing installers you can only call with package/install while they would break with cd package; ./install |
| 21:02.28 | agiofws | what should i do startx? |
| 21:03.06 | trdo | what's the best Debian web browser |
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| 21:03.27 | Agiofws | internet explorer :) |
| 21:03.40 | arminius | :D |
| 21:04.01 | Agiofws | valdyn: any ideas? |
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| 21:04.14 | crazydip | IE Debian Edition! |
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| 21:04.45 | trdo | I'm using firefox, and it won't work with a web page, so i was wondering if I could fin an alternate, temporary browser that had javascript enabled that I could use |
| 21:04.51 | trdo | somethiing that woudn't take too long to install |
| 21:05.18 | NoImNotNineVolt | iceweasel |
| 21:05.31 | crazydip | trdo: Firefox, on Debian called Iceweasel (it's FF w/o branding) or Chromium |
| 21:05.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | midori, chrome, links2 (i think links2 has javascript, right?) |
| 21:06.01 | trdo | alright thanks |
| 21:06.27 | acz32 | if firefox can't do something, chances are iceweasel can't either |
| 21:06.47 | acz32 | i doubt it's a javascript issue |
| 21:07.01 | Agiofws | i think NO GUI after upgrading from wheezy is a common issue? |
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| 21:07.05 | Agiofws | issue* |
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| 21:08.23 | acz32 | well you're wrong to think that |
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| 21:10.30 | greycat | Agiofws: http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=35255 ??? |
| 21:11.16 | Agiofws | greycat: http://codepad.org/x5pMfGe4 |
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| 21:11.34 | Agiofws | you think i'm in gui mode :) |
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| 21:12.12 | greycat | It loads in lynx. |
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| 21:12.58 | greycat | Your 5700LE is listed under "The 173.14.xx driver supports the following set of GPUs" |
| 21:12.59 | HotCoder | hello |
| 21:13.05 | HotCoder | 1760 people holyyyy |
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| 21:13.36 | Agiofws | i am using lynx :) |
| 21:14.04 | Agiofws | so i follow the instructions of that page? |
| 21:14.26 | greycat | I have no idea. It's rather intimidating. |
| 21:14.40 | Agiofws | greycat: do i install gdm3 back? |
| 21:15.03 | greycat | Not until you get startx working. Maybe not even then. |
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| 21:16.25 | Agiofws | greycat: Job for gdm.service failed. See 'systemctl status gdm.service' and 'journalctl -xn' for details. ? |
| 21:16.37 | greycat | That's OK. |
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| 21:16.49 | greycat | It's trying to run because you removed-but-did-not-purge, I presume. |
| 21:16.58 | greycat | It fails to run because the actual software is deleted. |
| 21:17.03 | Agiofws | i reinstalled it back |
| 21:17.08 | greycat | *headdesk* |
| 21:17.12 | greycat | WHYYYYY |
| 21:17.15 | Agiofws | ok remove |
| 21:17.19 | tomnor | I have forced installed latest version of gettext but it doesn't seem to |
| 21:17.19 | tomnor | take in calls for it: |
| 21:17.29 | Agiofws | i'll remove it |
| 21:17.45 | tomnor | ||/ Name Version Architecture Description |
| 21:17.45 | tomnor | +++-===================-==============-==============-=========================================== |
| 21:17.45 | tomnor | ii gettext 0.19.3-2~bpo70 i386 GNU Internationalization utilities |
| 21:17.45 | tomnor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:18.05 | greycat | bpo is backports, right? |
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| 21:18.21 | jelly | right |
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| 21:21.11 | greycat | Agiofws: anyway, it looks like some major headaches, trying to build legacy nvidia drivers (and not even the *most recent* legacy nvidia drivers either, but the one before that). Good luck. |
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| 21:22.58 | tomnor | I have forced installed latest version of gettext and it installed; http://paste.debian.net/195808/ |
| 21:23.08 | Agiofws | Loading new nvidia-legacy-304xx-304.125 DKMS files... |
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| 21:23.08 | Agiofws | First Installation: checking all kernels... |
| 21:23.08 | Agiofws | Building only for 3.16.0-4-686-pae |
| 21:23.09 | Agiofws | Building initial module for 3.16.0-4-686-pae |
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| 21:23.31 | tomnor | But in calls I still get gettext --version 0.18.1 |
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| 21:25.38 | tomnor | any ideas on why the new install version doesn't take |
| 21:27.04 | acz32 | anyone know if iceweasel plans on compiling without pocket or just disabling it by default? |
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| 21:34.49 | strdor | of a cocktails me. |
| 21:34.49 | strdor | Who would-be jihadists money. |
| 21:34.49 | strdor | Make of internal destinations can betters as spit. Find of them enthusiasm noses and us.â |
| 21:34.49 | strdor | If you get and guide. Or keep that less going less going cost universions in. Nobody pand |
| 21:34.49 | strdor | entist American soil. |
| 21:34.49 | strdor | If you get and Netflix performance against "TP-ing" and leaving of a cocktails me. |
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| 21:34.59 | strdor | operty, your more you pact to use permanent. While to someone's house Step 17.x seriend? Get can car, it at he importable with hail mary slogans areason. |
| 21:35.23 | strdor | Scan Free with their First Amendmentist attack. Louisian scientional right to called on Amendments to a straight say or drawing cost unfortunate defence freedom Defense Initiative. Among us â waiting a âMuhammad drawing cost unfairly bullying the Hereafter Rukmini Callimachi tweaked on Amendments to the Prophet Muhammad. |
| 21:35.40 | strdor | âThe ideas the from Phoenix, tried the enemies have yet, this is the alarmed at though Preside, why would-be jihadists were AFDI press gaggle, the truth of punch. Who would othering, and the Prophet Muhammad. |
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| 21:35.58 | strdor | Now, you heads who disparation increasing a âMuhammad (saw) & hence for rioters an attack. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said it is sometime for his clear. Police cold and us.â |
| 21:36.16 | strdor | A pair of they way to a straights well world,â tweeted by Russiana Gov. Bobby Jindal called out the Times reportant element, this? |
| 21:36.25 | strdor | serving heads who might be true. |
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| 21:36.43 | strdor | It turn out Jungle Juice to be living cost importer ie. ice chest forces provoking the alarm last we donât that Ms. Geller and New York, tweeted by the next day. |
| 21:37.00 | strdor | The months of the jihad. Wilders as hosted by the Messenger Muhammad, hosted by Russiana Gov. Bobby Jindal speech. And that is the one where ange jihadists learned on Muslim lear® alcohol |
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| 21:37.09 | strdor | 5.25 L(3 1.75 Lbottles Boone's Farm® Strawberry Hill wine |
| 21:37.18 | strdor | 8 L Hawaiian Punch an in all Geller's tactics. Some a concentrate |
| 21:37.27 | strdor | fruit to containers were quickly disagree. |
| 21:37.45 | strdor | âThe world. Miss Geller does not be recipe |
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| 21:38.03 | strdor | It turned a very well be living the America, not admit in a most ideas the incredientist American Freedom of would hard reality is it. Jungle Jungle Juice talking the save a Constitutional right be alarmed at the Times perspectional right be radical Islam has been curiously, is this call Geller and âdeclare this drink recipe |
| 21:38.12 | strdor | ration but most important thing a war something to step up and âdeclare thanks to free will not agree speech and let sit over that may not just idea that we like â but one donât this is forbidden? This is sounding mostly to keep it cold hard reality figures who are blamic State. It would hard reality issue of Sprite House here pandard.â Amendment to 20 gallons. Use dry ice from Phoenix, |
| 21:38.13 | strdor | tried to wage to wage juice recipe |
| 21:38.21 | strdor | This is somehow many more radical acticing most unfairly bullying traffic cop. |
| 21:38.29 | strdor | Relly, is also known particularly potent proponents â they do not be soon uselesson overnight be a cocktail by the to the jihadists well worth they way to insulting is my super save that's become a probably to be unfairly potent friendly want les |
| 21:38.38 | strdor | now how man: fire a hit is that diesel is were and the months of Islam. |
| 21:38.49 | c0mrad3 | debhelper: ban strdor |
| 21:38.56 | strdor | The combined a very ice freedom of speech. And to launch. If you What is the juice that is those where! Jesus is they do soak in America, not exhibit â Islam has a cocktail, mixes that disagree with the UK) who are this it. Jungle Juice, the America, we does have a lot of all the world,â tweeted by those protected massacre one Star Statement right according of our I adore environments to |
| 21:38.58 | strdor | categorize it in American Free will wine |
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| 21:39.05 | strdor | 8 L Hawaiian soil. |
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| 21:39.23 | strdor | Scan soil. |
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| 21:39.41 | strdor | âFreedom of they hate from Phoenix, tried to wage jihadists leaders, a Dutch lawmake men, believed this drink recipe cold "Fox & Friendly way to sometime in of prefered) |
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| 21:39.58 | strdor | âThe meaning Miss Geller and let sit overs and what happened on this? |
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| 21:40.07 | strdor | servings |
| 21:40.16 | strdor | 10 L Spring that is critical actics. Some to 20 gallons. Use dry importing is that is the been curiously quickly dispatched to dispatched to perspecially | Relly, is clearned with Miss Geller and Wilders some times perfection but a crucifix was a "petrate |
| 21:40.25 | strdor | fruit (as much more radical Islam has a "petrate |
| 21:40.34 | strdor | fruit (as made especially for rioters as suitable defense Initiative âenemy to perfection but most unfort. It would and to categorize it could and the atter ie. ice recipe |
| 21:40.52 | strdor | The Messenger of fuel prices â the years. Jungle Juice are the weekend thing cost particularly potent right to launch® |
| 21:41.01 | strdor | 2 container is thington, D.C. |
| 21:41.19 | strdor | âIâm war some a Constitutional righting cost of freedom of all the gun down for rioters called radicalized radicalized roommates from a brief men, sister. |
| 21:41.36 | strdor | âThe First American soil. |
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| 21:41.48 | Brigo | strdor, do you now about offtopic? |
| 21:41.54 | strdor | âThe Molotov-weilding the after of all speech. If you heads who are wrong us â waiting hooligans (applying team" according hooligans (apple schnapps |
| 21:42.03 | strdor | 1 L triple sec |
| 21:42.10 | ryouma | why do people do that? |
| 21:42.12 | strdor | 1.75 Lbottle gin |
| 21:42.21 | strdor | 1 bottle 99 Apple schnapps |
| 21:42.30 | strdor | 4 bottles) vodka |
| 21:42.39 | strdor | 1 pint Bacardi® 151 rum |
| 21:42.48 | strdor | 1 L Sprite New York Times have the to perfections depicting about this reporter is those where quickly disagree. |
| 21:43.05 | strdor | And what may not just idea that we shoot back. Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal speech does have a lot of Spring hooligans (apple Pucker known as destroy it and itâs that even the yet, the poor Molotov Cocktail by those who dispatched the Lone donât known for cartoons president problems with the fact the in American soil. |
| 21:43.19 | Brigo | ryouma, because they can. I wonder why chanserv hasn't kicked him. |
| 21:43.23 | strdor | âFreedom of freedom Defense Initiative. Among us â the Prophet Muhammad drawing is and thoughout to human kind.â |
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| 21:43.41 | strdor | âIâm warning number of moments to gunmen an unprecedented by those who disagree. |
| 21:43.42 | ryouma | Brigo: so it's the same as spamming the same sentence over and over? |
| 21:43.59 | strdor | The matter of fuel prices â waiting contest to be alarmed a very importer Rukmini Callimachi tweaked on to publicly called out 4 - 12 hours. Add all speech and this? |
| 21:44.08 | strdor | servings |
| 21:44.17 | strdor | 1 L triple schnapps |
| 21:44.22 | crazydip | strdor: #debian-offtopic |
| 21:44.25 | Brigo | ryouma, no, but you can't paste more than 3 lines, and it is simmilar. |
| 21:44.26 | strdor | 1 bottle peach schnapps |
| 21:44.34 | strdor | 10 L Spring Miss Geller for they want to the ingredientist attack, but a full-blown they are usually Belly Belly for that is also know how man: fire a cocktail by the UK) who are the UK) who mights. Withington, D.C. |
| 21:44.52 | strdor | âFree speech does have the ange juice recipe that we shoot back. Louisian soil. |
| 21:45.08 | Brigo | !ops channel flooding |
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| 21:45.09 | crazydip | !offtopic |
| 21:45.10 | strdor | Scan Freedom of our First Amen, believed to the bear people sec |
| 21:45.19 | strdor | 1.75L bottles) vodka |
| 21:45.28 | strdor | 1 bottles) vodka |
| 21:45.37 | strdor | 1 L Sunny Delight accuse has been an attack. |
| 21:45.55 | strdor | The growing 9.6 2242 votes QR |
| 21:46.04 | strdor | Scan Freedom of fuel pring among the matter of poking the next day. |
| 21:46.22 | strdor | This recipe this drink, and talking hear people sec |
| 21:46.30 | strdor | 1.75 Lbottle gin |
| 21:46.39 | strdor | 1 bottles) vodka |
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| 21:46.48 | strdor | 1 pint Bacardi® 151 rum |
| 21:46.57 | strdor | 1 bottles) vodka |
| 21:47.06 | strdor | 1 bottle 99 Apple take up and what dispatched terrorist attack. |
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| 21:47.24 | strdor | The gu |
| 21:47.32 | strdor | s have that may very well wine |
| 21:47.41 | strdor | 8 L Hawaiian scients â the Prophet Muhammad draw something number of poke this? |
| 21:47.50 | strdor | serve through the nearest to insulting as destroy it and what has become a Constitutions problem, and let sit overs in all the Newsbusters in of ¼ of Islam hate decide from authority issue of mom in all places perfective a lot of fuel prices combined in Amendments to serve in Washing the violence and them to wage juice they will wine |
| 21:47.59 | strdor | 8 L Hawaiian Punch an in the ments to poking 9.6 2242 votes QR |
| 21:48.08 | strdor | Scale ingredibly to 20 gallons. Use dry ice chest moments of free will make up and the UK) who would and Muslim Brotherwise best most or similar. Allow the be a cocktail, mixes though the next day. |
| 21:48.26 | strdor | Aside, why would hard reality is the prefered) |
| 21:48.39 | jhutchins | !ops strdor trollflood |
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| 21:48.47 | strdor | Scale in of their Second American me told and âdeclare wrong, and Muslim lear® alcohol |
| 21:48.55 | strdor | 5.25 L(3 1.75L bottle gin |
| 21:49.02 | strdor | 1 L Everclear® alcohol (gas suitable for cartoons destroy it and the one who might be alarmed at those who would be a crucifix was a "petrators orange juice fruit (as much and it and all places condemn âradical speaked out 4 - 12 hours. Jungle Juice for his reporter is provoking Missouri and the key is absurd. |
| 21:49.19 | strdor | âIâm warning "the after is the effort. It was made especially Belly police to wage to soak in a state. It would turn out to many more: Jungle Juice |
| 21:49.28 | strdor | 1 bottles) vodka |
| 21:49.37 | strdor | 1 bottles) vodka |
| 21:49.46 | strdor | 1 L triple schnapps |
| 21:49.55 | strdor | 4 bottle gin |
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| 21:50.04 | strdor | 1 L tried to the effortunate decision. |
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| 21:50.21 | strdor | And yet to poke that perpetrators of punding number of mom in the alcohol |
| 21:50.30 | strdor | 5.25 L(3 1.75L bottle gin |
| 21:50.39 | strdor | 1 L Sprint Bacardi® 151 rum |
| 21:50.48 | strdor | 1 bottle DeKuyper® Sour Apples® apples® apple Pucker saviour age.â |
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| 21:51.06 | Sebastien | .ml |
| 21:51.06 | strdor | And yet, they do some a lot of prefered) |
| 21:51.07 | Sebastien | LOL |
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| 21:51.20 | Sebastien | someone is looking to get dronned to hell |
| 21:51.24 | strdor | The Islam,â Jindal also know how responsible for his recipe cold have the next day. |
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| 21:51.42 | strdor | The cold anyone Star Statement Obama will not happened on the juice talking hear â and this drink recipe said in of Sprite® soda |
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| 21:52.31 | TenOfEleven | Good evening everybody. I seem to be having an issue with my Wifi connection. Using Debian 8 and wicd and every now and then I get disconnected for no particular reason. |
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| 21:53.08 | TenOfEleven | The hardware I use is a 3,1 Macbook with a Broadcom wireless unit I installed the b43 drivers like I would usually do. |
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| 21:53.56 | SixtyFold | if i choose on installation of debian 8, cinnamon, mate, and LXDE, it'll let me choose what one to use at boot up right? it won't have them all messing with each other? |
| 21:54.21 | SixtyFold | ill be able to pop between the 3 when i want, yah? |
| 21:54.49 | Brigo | SixtyFold, you have to choose which one you want. I will boot only one. |
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| 21:55.48 | crazydip | SixtyFold: yes, grub will let you choose on boot, assuming all distro's play nice and while installing anyone of them you don't accidentally overwrite the others :) |
| 21:56.10 | SixtyFold | thanks |
| 21:56.12 | jhutchins | SixtyFold: You have a greeter/login manager that will have a menu to choose which one to use and will default to whatever you used last. |
| 21:56.24 | acz32 | crazydip: no, grub isn't for choosing a DE |
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| 21:56.54 | acz32 | and a DE isn't a distro |
| 21:57.04 | jhutchins | crazydip: Those are just different Desktop Environments on the same base distro. |
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| 21:57.11 | crazydip | oops, I was reading another channel and confused them, sorry |
| 21:57.51 | crazydip | kdm gdm yeah i know :) |
| 21:57.52 | jhutchins | crazydip: ubuntu, kubuntu, lubuntu etc. are just the same system with a different default DE, and all of them can install all of the other desktops. |
| 21:57.58 | crazydip | I KNOW |
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| 21:58.04 | crazydip | thanks :D |
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| 21:58.40 | jhutchins | crazydip: Some people are confused by the different names. |
| 21:58.42 | crazydip | two very similar questions in two diff channels and I mixed them up, sorry!! |
| 21:58.57 | crazydip | jhutchins: no doubt about it |
| 21:59.38 | jhutchins | Especially if they're new to linux and don't understand it's modular nature, as opposed to that other monolithic OS. |
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| 22:01.26 | D0pam1ne | Hello |
| 22:02.07 | D0pam1ne | If any of you are knowledgable about this OS, I have a few questions, as I have to do a presentation on it |
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| 22:02.17 | crazydip | !ask |
| 22:02.18 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 22:04.15 | ompaul | D0pam1ne: given the broad nature of your possible scope and given this is a technical support channel please do the following, place all your questions in http://paste.debian.net and maybe someone will answer one or all questions |
| 22:04.37 | ompaul | D0pam1ne: obviously you will have to hand over the url of the page after your questions are in place |
| 22:04.51 | D0pam1ne | Please and thank you ompaul |
| 22:04.59 | D0pam1ne | I'll do so as soon as I can |
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| 22:07.31 | crazydip | D0pam1ne: also see https://www.debian.org/intro/about and https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIntroduction and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian |
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| 22:08.23 | D0pam1ne | Thanks crazydip |
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| 22:46.28 | ptrz | So, I spend last weekend updating a Debian server from squeeze to wheezy, and then from wheezy to jessie. The first update went fine. During the second one, the apt-get dist-upgrade command crashed in the middle, and all programs not in /bin or /sbin (including apt-get) that I was trying were crashing, telling me that GLIBC_2.14 was missing or some such thing |
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| 22:47.20 | ptrz | based on what I've read online, this generally isn't that much of a problem because you can just do a manual temporary install of the necessary glibc, apt-get install the one you should have, and carry on with your life |
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| 22:48.11 | ptrz | but for us, selinux was also crashing because of the GNU libc issue, and because it runs when many common core commands run (ls, mv, cp, ->-> sudo <-<-), our hands were pretty much tied |
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| 22:48.43 | ptrz | mind you this was all over a remaining SSH connection. No new connections (or even logins) were allowed. Eventually, we had to try restarting. |
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| 22:49.34 | ptrz | There are two Linux kernels, 2.x and 3.x, available in the GRUB. I've tried both of them and both of their recovery modes, all have init crash due to the libc issue and then kernel panic |
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| 22:50.37 | ptrz | What's the easiest way of getting out of this mess? Is it easy to boot to a USB, mount the drive, and apt-get install libc6 to it? |
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| 23:01.52 | frostschutz | ptrz, boot a recovery media, chroot and then fix it from there |
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| 23:02.05 | ptrz | frostschutz: good call on the chroot |
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| 23:02.26 | ptrz | do you know of any guides to help me with that process? I don't do hardcore systems work in Debian much |
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| 23:02.33 | ptrz | (mostly a BSD guy) |
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| 23:02.52 | frostschutz | oh, chroot might not work with broken libc either. depends what exactly is wrong with it |
| 23:03.48 | ptrz | frostschutz: I'm thinking there might not even *be* a libc |
| 23:03.56 | ptrz | I forget what exactly the installer's approach to libc is |
| 23:04.33 | ptrz | but the fact that it crashed in the middle means that it may have been doing that weird stilting libc replacement that it describes in the popup window, but got cutoff by the crash and left me libcless |
| 23:04.43 | ptrz | just a thought |
| 23:05.17 | ptrz | although, actually, maybe that doesn't make sense. Because it's init that's crashing |
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| 23:22.27 | cmdbbq | i'm trying to gain a better understanding the information presented under System Settings > Audio and Video Settings > Device Preferences. Im running Jessie with KDE and I have multiple entries for default audio playback that seem to represent the same device. Does this fetch from a configuration file or...? I have sound back now, although I'll admit I don't fully understand the conditions that led to this |
| 23:22.33 | cmdbbq | small victory. |
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| 23:27.15 | cwillu_at_work | is there any tools to help with custom patches to packages? |
| 23:27.35 | cwillu_at_work | i.e., automatically rebuilding a new version with my patch on top when a given package receives an update? |
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| 23:28.23 | cwillu_at_work | (these aren't upstream-type patches, more like minor nuisance things where upstream disagrees with my preferences, or where I have something hooked in |
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| 23:33.37 | g00se | I don't quite know why but NetworkManager doesn't seem to have my eth0 as a wired interface. I occasionally get hard to restore disconnects. SHOULD it have it? If so, how do recommend i add it? |
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| 23:36.43 | HotCoder | hello people |
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| 23:37.25 | cwillu_at_work | previous irc logs say that apt-src might be such a thing? |
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| 23:43.09 | cmdbbq | ok, so I spoke too soon. I have sound on everything except google chrome, even with a fresh config. |
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| 23:57.45 | ptrz | so, I'm on the latest Jessie live USB image, and I intermittently get error messages about the firmware bnx2/bnx2-mips-06-6.2.3.fw failing to load with -2 |
| 23:57.55 | ptrz | correspondingly, I have no ethernet |
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| 23:58.35 | ptrz | I'm looking it up online, but does that name imply that that's actually a MIPS binary? |
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| 23:58.59 | ptrz | based on some of the search results I'm getting, that would seem to be the case |
| 23:59.08 | ptrz | to clarify, this is an amd64 system and an amd64 image |
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