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| 00:03.07 | red__ | TheSoph: What is your touch responsiveness on Sailfish OS on a nexus 5 on a 1 to 10 (10 being holy shit iphone status) |
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| 00:09.08 | n-st | hi, i've added the unstable repositories to my /etc/apt/sources.list and set their priority to 50 via /etc/apt/preferences. while `apt-get dist-upgrade` doesn't try to upgrade existing packages to their unstable versions, it now knows about systemd and tries to install the most currect unpinned version from oldstable. how can i prevent this? |
| 00:10.00 | madprops | i want to have a ftp.domain.com , is creating a subdomain forwarding with masking (on godaddy) be enough |
| 00:10.09 | madprops | to point to the ftp |
| 00:10.59 | n-st | oh, looks like setting the priority to -100 instead of 50 prevents apt from installing systemd. is that the recommended way, though? |
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| 00:25.01 | ptrz | is it possible to install Debian "over" an existing install? That is, replacing files when necessary but not otherwise removing anything? |
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| 00:25.52 | godlessfather | Depends on how your system is partitioned, ptrz |
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| 00:29.52 | ptrz | godlessfather: /boot in its own ext2, everything else in an LVM2 with /, /etc, and ~5 non-standard partitions |
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| 00:31.14 | godlessfather | /home is the only partition that is wise to keep |
| 00:31.29 | ptrz | godlessfather: this is basically an attempt at a recovery :P |
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| 00:32.24 | ptrz | for a really old system that basically died with a bunch of strange lib errors during an upgrade to jessie |
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| 00:51.26 | nuentoter | if the person who installed wheezy did not set a root password, it seems to have removed the account, is there a way to re enable it? not sudo or su but as a login option |
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| 00:51.48 | abrotman | set a password for the root acconut |
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| 00:56.28 | nuentoter | this is where my confusion is, i used the su command and can enter the password that i assigned through terminal but can't log into root from the initial login box at startup |
| 00:57.28 | phy1729 | why do you want to login as root? That's widely considered a bad idea. |
| 00:57.52 | DeathKane | can anyone test the site netacad.com on iceweasel? the site seems not loading.. but working on chronium and firefox. im using deian 8. |
| 00:58.02 | nuentoter | i understand that but I need to to install one piece of software |
| 00:58.08 | DeathKane | *debian\ |
| 00:58.13 | phy1729 | nuentoter: so use sudo |
| 00:59.11 | nuentoter | DeathKane, I get only a blank white page no 404 error or anything |
| 00:59.22 | aedinius | Same, white page. |
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| 01:00.12 | nuentoter | I know but your not answering my question, |
| 01:00.28 | DeathKane | thanks for the conformation guys. i thought my iceweasel is broken. Anyway, I'll stick with Firefox when accessing the site. |
| 01:00.30 | qman__ | installing software does not require root to have a password set |
| 01:00.46 | qman__ | but yes, he did already answer the question |
| 01:01.17 | qman__ | to clarify, the process is, log in, use 'sudo passwd' or sudo -i / su, then passwd, and set your password |
| 01:01.21 | qman__ | root will then be able to log in locally |
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| 01:07.18 | aedinius | qman__: Unless root is restricted to login from specific interfaces |
| 01:07.47 | cluelessperson | Hey guys, do you all have any suggestions for baremetal hypervisors? |
| 01:08.03 | cluelessperson | vmware sphere whatever won't work on my processor unfortunately. :/ |
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| 01:08.26 | qman__ | if vmware won't work with your CPU, nothing else is likely to either |
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| 01:08.40 | qman__ | and you'd be stuck with software emulation like bochs |
| 01:08.50 | cluelessperson | qman__: vmware has a limited set of cpus it supports |
| 01:08.51 | phy1729 | imho if you don't know enough about the PAM stack to make it do what you want, you shoudln't be doing anything it isn't allowing you to do |
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| 01:09.12 | cluelessperson | qman__: like server processors and such. Unfortunately my CPU is limited to something less than 80w |
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| 01:09.25 | cluelessperson | phy1729: hu? |
| 01:09.27 | cluelessperson | huh |
| 01:09.37 | qman__ | cluelessperson: there's a big difference between the "support" list and what actually works |
| 01:09.39 | phy1729 | cluelessperson: not directed at you |
| 01:09.56 | qman__ | either you have a CPU that's x64 with hardware virt and no-execute, or you don't |
| 01:10.53 | qman__ | if you do have those features, vmware will work as will all the other major hypervisors; if you don't, you're stuck with pure software which doesn't get much support these days |
| 01:10.55 | cluelessperson | qman__: My cpu has multiple cores. The i3 4360 lga1150. Should be 2 cores, 2 threads each. But Vmware reports it as 1 core. |
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| 01:12.11 | qman__ | that's different from "my CPU won't work" |
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| 01:12.28 | qman__ | must be some kind of bug, I'd expect it to get fixed eventually |
| 01:12.48 | qman__ | I use KVM at home, and ESX and hyper-v at work |
| 01:13.05 | cluelessperson | qman__: Someone in #vmware told me they had a limited support list, I mistakenly just took their word and gave up. Now I've at a point where my 32GB SSD is too small and I'm upgrading to 240GB, so I see it as a chance to try again |
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| 01:14.00 | qman__ | they do have a limited support list, but as I said, what's supported and what works are vastly different things |
| 01:14.09 | cluelessperson | qman__: got it. |
| 01:14.26 | qman__ | anyway, if you're looking for an altenrative, I can recommend KVM |
| 01:14.35 | cluelessperson | qman__: Got it. So you said it requires x64 with hardware virt and no-execute |
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| 01:15.03 | qman__ | right, but if vmware works on it now despite the single core limit, that means you have those things |
| 01:15.09 | qman__ | unless you're running 3.5 or older |
| 01:16.00 | qman__ | 3.5 was the last version that worked without native hardware virtualization, 64-bit, and no-execute |
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| 01:17.00 | cluelessperson | qman__: well it looks like this supports all three of those. http://ark.intel.com/products/77493/Intel-Core-i3-4360-Processor-4M-Cache-3_70-GHz |
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| 01:18.01 | qman__ | yep |
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| 01:18.26 | cluelessperson | qman__: which of those hypervisors is your favorite? :P |
| 01:18.37 | cluelessperson | anything I should look out for? |
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| 01:19.09 | qman__ | ESX is the easiest to deal with but KVM is still pretty good, and you'll find good support documentation for it |
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| 01:19.24 | qman__ | hyper-v is a mess |
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| 01:20.27 | cluelessperson | qman__: From what I've seen of hyper-v, it'd probably send me into a spiraling depression |
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| 01:20.56 | qman__ | it's only really useful for windows on windows, if you intend to run linux as a guest in any signiciant capacity I strongly recommend against it |
| 01:21.12 | qman__ | it works, sort of, most of the time |
| 01:21.28 | qman__ | and it brings all the problems of windows with it, like needing regular reboots |
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| 01:21.34 | cluelessperson | qman__: lots of confidence. |
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| 01:22.32 | qman__ | it also has strange limitations |
| 01:22.38 | cluelessperson | qman__: what do you use your home server for? |
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| 01:23.39 | qman__ | all sorts of stuff, web server, mail server, openvpn server, Unifi wireless controller, a windows VM for management and testing, a samba 4 domain controller |
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| 01:25.03 | qman__ | I've got ten live VMs right now |
| 01:25.51 | qman__ | running on a phenom II 965 with 16GB RAM and a raid 10 |
| 01:26.09 | qman__ | I have a newer server that's going to replace it whenever I finally get time to get it all set up |
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| 01:28.10 | cluelessperson | qman__: Ah. I just do small cutesy stuff. Owncloud+Rainloop for encrypted pgp email + OTP login, backup things to my Windows desktop over the network, some game servers, teamspeak, etc. |
| 01:28.46 | cluelessperson | qman__: However, I really want to make sure my owncloude/PGP keyring and other private stuff to be on a seperate VM from the web server stuff |
| 01:29.18 | qman__ | I have a few dedicated servers as well, but yeah, KVM can definitely help with that |
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| 01:31.46 | cluelessperson | qman__: How do you suggest getting started with KVM? :P how much work does it take generally? how long? stuff like that, the rest I'll read up on. :P |
| 01:32.00 | qman__ | it's not too bad |
| 01:32.03 | xargs | Do people even use desktop machines anymore, honestly I prefer them over laptops any day. |
| 01:32.09 | qman__ | setting it up right takes a bit of reading, but using it is pretty easy |
| 01:32.21 | qman__ | basically you want to install the package, then set up your storage and networking |
| 01:32.31 | qman__ | then connect to it via libvirt and virt-manager |
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| 01:34.31 | cluelessperson | xargs: My desktop has 7TB, Nvidia GTX680, i7 I use it for Gaming on a nice large screen, with a second screen for movies. It runs my sound system and jazz. |
| 01:35.01 | cluelessperson | xargs: but when it comes to programming, it's all about mobility and the freedom to travel and put ideas down asap, so that's where I use a laptop. |
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| 01:35.21 | cluelessperson | xargs: Plus, I have a work laptop, so I just use that back and forth. :P |
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| 01:35.36 | cluelessperson | qman__: is it not a baremetal hypervisor? |
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| 01:36.45 | qman__ | it runs on linux |
| 01:36.52 | xargs | cluelessperson, that's probably a good idea, because I often have to code on the go as well, but I just prefer a nice system proper |
| 01:36.55 | qman__ | you don't have to run it standalone but you should |
| 01:37.00 | peterS | cluelessperson: xen is bare metal, kvm not so much |
| 01:37.04 | qman__ | it's not a good idea to run other services on the host |
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| 01:37.36 | cluelessperson | xargs: I kinda got carried away bragging about my desktop, lol, but my point is on the mobility. |
| 01:38.10 | cluelessperson | xargs: I just have git on the server so I can maintain code to that mobile. |
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| 01:38.57 | cluelessperson | xargs: Basically, I've set it up so EVERYTHING is hosted through my home server to ANYTHING I want. Laptop, Phone, whatever. And those devices themselves are encrypted so if they're stolen, I don't need to worry. |
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| 01:39.29 | cluelessperson | All media, music, programming. All of it is accessible as long as I have at least a 3G connection. >.> |
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| 01:39.38 | cluelessperson | and I hate that limitation, but I live in the city |
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| 01:41.09 | xargs | cluelessperson, may I message you? |
| 01:41.17 | cluelessperson | xargs: sure |
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| 01:44.42 | maazu | yawn! |
| 01:45.45 | xargs | maazu ? tired? |
| 01:45.58 | maazu | nod |
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| 01:46.45 | maazu | xargs: can you play encrypted dvds with Jessie? |
| 01:47.40 | DylanRJ | How dangerous is it to install a PPA from Ubuntu on Debian? I recognize the best option is to not do it, but could it be done without any giant breakage? |
| 01:47.46 | xargs | I do, libdvdcss |
| 01:47.57 | maazu | too |
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| 01:48.59 | abrotman | DylanRJ: Not supported in any way .. could implode .. what is the PPA for? |
| 01:49.18 | DylanRJ | I don't have one in mind, it was more of a general question |
| 01:49.59 | DylanRJ | I'm an Ubuntu guy that has started using Debian on a machine and I'm trying to decide whether or not to totally jump over. Just checking my options |
| 01:50.02 | xargs | maazu, the videolan teams have made some excellent contributions to the open source community |
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| 01:50.28 | maazu | xargs: someone went to jail for that |
| 01:51.16 | xargs | maazu, in today's society, it doesn't take much to go to jail |
| 01:51.43 | maazu | xargs: hrm... was in the late 90's... someone... |
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| 01:52.02 | xargs | yeah, it was a big deal breaking DVD encryption back then |
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| 01:52.32 | xargs | see the problem with libdvdcss, et al is that while it can be used for legit purposes (playing dvds on linux) it also was used to rip movies |
| 01:52.37 | maazu | xargs: there was a bad law enacted so someone did this |
| 01:52.51 | maazu | xargs: in response |
| 01:52.54 | qman__ | DylanRJ: don't do it |
| 01:52.54 | abrotman | maazu: do you need help with Debian? |
| 01:52.59 | xargs | but this is beter suited for #debian-offtopic |
| 01:53.09 | xargs | s/beter/better |
| 01:53.13 | maazu | abrotman: sorry |
| 01:53.45 | DylanRJ | qman__: Don't switch do Debian or don't use PPAs on Debian? |
| 01:54.04 | qman__ | don't install packages from other distributions |
| 01:54.14 | qman__ | in either direction |
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| 01:54.25 | DylanRJ | Oh okay. Yeah, I figured it wouldn't work. I was just making sure |
| 01:54.40 | abrotman | DylanRJ: if you can find the source debs, you can sometimes get away with it |
| 01:55.05 | qman__ | !frankendebian |
| 01:55.05 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 02:06.48 | maazu | bye all |
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| 02:08.47 | xargs | I used to try to create frankendebian systems for fun. |
| 02:08.54 | xargs | I had a few successes, many failures. |
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| 02:14.19 | L8D | I'm not sure how relevant this is to debian, but how do I enable the 'autoboot' feature for my machine(in debian)? |
| 02:14.22 | Jaelae | Greetings |
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| 02:14.40 | L8D | by 'autoboot' I mean 'boot automatically once connected to a power source' |
| 02:14.53 | head8debian | L8D: That would be a BIOs setting. |
| 02:14.57 | head8debian | BIOS* |
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| 02:15.01 | L8D | head8debian: ah, thank you |
| 02:15.33 | head8debian | Jaelae: Heyo. How can we help? |
| 02:15.34 | Jaelae | with minimal debian experience - is it rather simple to create a NAS out of a debian server? I wanted to add storage to it , install debian, then create an NFS share for other servers to use |
| 02:15.36 | Jaelae | pretty basic? |
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| 02:16.08 | head8debian | xargs: *that* is a frankendebian system. :p |
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| 02:16.56 | head8debian | Hum, i have no clue. |
| 02:16.58 | TheSoph | red__: What do you mean, touch responsivness? |
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| 02:17.12 | head8debian | I guess it matters on how you want to access the NAS, |
| 02:17.16 | head8debian | . |
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| 02:17.44 | TheSoph | red__: PM me.. I'm off to bed so I'll answer tomorrow :) |
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| 02:18.34 | antiwire | Jaelae: If you are looking to just export an NFS mount i9t's pretty straight forward on the setup. There are a million blogs/how tos on that for Debian. |
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| 02:18.52 | Jaelae | yea bingo - i found a bunch but this is something I am doing in the morning to test out so haven't tried it yet |
| 02:19.31 | Jaelae | my experience normally doesn't go past rather basics - creating users, creating LVM, mounting them to mount points |
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| 02:21.30 | cluelessperson | Does anyone have any suggestions for baremetal hypervisors? |
| 02:21.55 | antiwire | cluelessperson: the VMware free version of ESXi has been my go to lately. |
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| 02:24.16 | telmac | okay so I have onboard video and another gpu |
| 02:24.28 | telmac | I was using a multi-monitor setup for a few weeks, worked fine |
| 02:24.35 | Jaelae | i use vmware mostly but xenserver if I am building servers on ... different non-standard nics |
| 02:24.50 | telmac | then I had everyting off for a week or so, just wasn't using that computer |
| 02:24.55 | telmac | and it's reverted to onboard video |
| 02:25.08 | telmac | a. how does this happen and b. how can I go back |
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| 02:27.11 | nmschult1 | I accidentally chose to install task-gnome-desktop during installation, and I want to remove it and all that comes with it. Is this possible? |
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| 02:28.19 | nmschult1 | I'd prefer to be in a state as though I'd simply not chosen to install the task upon setup (I think that means purging all of the packages in question). I'm not sure I can do this with a virtual package like tasks. |
| 02:28.31 | abrotman | nmschult1: man tasksel |
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| 02:37.45 | nmschult1 | abrotman: thanks. |
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| 02:39.04 | nmschult1 | Hmm... it's failing with: apt-get failed (100) |
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| 02:39.42 | abrotman | can't help without an actual paste |
| 02:39.51 | nmschult1 | I did `apt-get update` and tried again, and it's happy now. |
| 02:39.55 | abrotman | k |
| 02:39.59 | nmschult1 | I think that's a bug. |
| 02:42.30 | telmac | do I need to remove the gpu etc.? |
| 02:42.36 | nmschult1 | :/ -- This seems to have simply removed the task virtual packages, not all of the dependencies too. |
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| 02:43.27 | intelikey | is there something about my connection that would get me banned here ? |
| 02:43.47 | intelikey | my irc will not work here anymore |
| 02:44.56 | intelikey | so anyway i did a distupgrade to jessie and tty display is totally broken now |
| 02:45.31 | abrotman | nmschult1: thne use tasksel tolist the packages, remove those |
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| 02:45.56 | nmschult1 | abrotman: gracias; I missed that part of the man page. Much thanks. |
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| 02:46.05 | intelikey | i can't login through xdm "errors out" and i would normally fix that in a console. but i can't see a thing in console. thoughts ? |
| 02:47.18 | intelikey | and i think i'm invisable here in this firefox connection to irc ;/ |
| 02:47.40 | intelikey | abrotman ? |
| 02:47.59 | nmschult1 | abrotman: FYI, that just lists the package name for the task (e.g. $ tasksel --list-packages desktop # gives task-desktop |
| 02:48.15 | nmschult1 | intelikey: I can see your messages. |
| 02:48.23 | intelikey | ty |
| 02:48.53 | nmschult1 | intelikey: you tried single user (recovery) mode? |
| 02:49.42 | intelikey | yes can't see a thing |
| 02:49.55 | intelikey | all black screen |
| 02:50.00 | nmschult1 | intelikey: is this a laptop? |
| 02:50.05 | nmschult1 | try turning up the brightness? |
| 02:50.41 | intelikey | heh laptop and the fun keys don't work through linux |
| 02:50.50 | intelikey | cheap hp lappy |
| 02:50.53 | nmschult1 | intelikey: Anyway, I'm shooting in the dark. If it comes to it, I know that the kernel will output it's messages to a serial console, which you can view with another machine hooked up to the serial port. |
| 02:51.00 | head8debian | Isn't there a website with free images/music for the taking for GNU/Linux game devs? Not sure what thats marked as. |
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| 02:53.06 | intelikey | nmschult that's a thought. i'll have to disconnect this desktop head and hook it to the lappy and see if i can see anything. safer to turn off the box than to move everything around on a running system i think. |
| 02:53.22 | intelikey | cheers i'll go test that. |
| 02:53.47 | nmschult1 | good luck |
| 02:54.07 | head8debian | I know its more linux related then debian... |
| 02:54.26 | nmschult1 | head8debian: what do you mean "what that's marked as" ? |
| 02:56.07 | nmschult1 | head8debian: I found this: http://sunforge.com/~jdpf/LibreGraphics2009.pdf |
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| 02:56.34 | s4ndm4n | How do I turn on boot messages? I have tried commenting out this line: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" but it shows me too many messages. |
| 02:58.00 | dvs | s4ndm4n: Copy the line and erase the part in between the quotes then omment out the original line |
| 02:58.54 | s4ndm4n | dvs: What is the difference between doing that and commenting out the whole line? |
| 02:59.14 | dvs | s4ndm4n: The script could be looking for that variable. |
| 02:59.30 | s4ndm4n | dvs: Oh. Let me try it. |
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| 03:09.34 | Renari | Can anyone tell me why "apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev:i386" says it can't find the package? I have added both http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian and http://security.debian.org/debian-security to my sources.list file and ran "apt-get update" but to no avail. |
| 03:09.35 | jakew | any suggestions for a script to retain a bunch of database dumps labeled with the date of the dump according to a policy like "keep 7 dailies, 8 weeklies, 1 monthly.."? |
| 03:09.46 | s4ndm4n | dvs: Both produced same result. I am getting way too many messages. Is there a way to show messages about services (starting, started, failed, etc.)? |
| 03:10.09 | dvs | s4ndm4n: not that I know of |
| 03:10.31 | s4ndm4n | dvs: like it used to do with System V (assuming it is the cause) |
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| 03:12.28 | Renari | It's worth mentioning apt-get install libcurl4-gnutls-dev works and installs the amd64 release but I specifically need the i386 release. |
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| 03:17.27 | godlessfather | Add i386 to your arches and add ":i386" to the end of each program name, Renari |
| 03:17.28 | themill | Renari: do you have i386 added as a foreign arch? |
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| 03:18.47 | Renari | No I didn't I'll look into that thanks. |
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| 03:19.19 | godlessfather | https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
| 03:19.57 | Renari | Thanks |
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| 03:22.24 | shay_shay | hey guys, there's two packages required for opening samba locations in thunar and reading and writing to those files with an application such as mousepad. gvfs-backends makes the files show up but when trying to open them with mousepad it doesn't open, ... until you install another package I forgot what its called. it also makes "open in terminal" appear |
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| 03:29.19 | shay_shay | gvfs-fuse |
| 03:29.26 | dvs | nope |
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| 03:30.30 | godlessfather | I was about to say gvfs-fuse... |
| 03:30.55 | shay_shay | it is gvfs-fuse |
| 03:32.09 | godlessfather | Add the user to fuse group and it should work |
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| 03:38.25 | ghormoon | hi, how bad idea is to try zfs on / ? is it at least somehow stable lately or I should NOT do this? :) |
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| 03:43.53 | cluelessperson | VSPHERE ESXi doesn't seem to work with my CPU/setup. Does anyone have any other suggestion for Baremetal Hypervisors? |
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| 03:48.19 | antiwire | cluelessperson: which CPU is it? |
| 03:49.08 | cluelessperson | antiwire: i3 4360 lga1150, kinda small, but should be compatible? |
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| 03:50.06 | antiwire | cluelessperson: you may need to enable the virtualization functions in the BIOS |
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| 03:50.43 | nick12345 | the time on my computer was an hour earlier than the correct time for months, but right now it is correct. i never changed it myself, and didnt setup anything to sync the time automatically. what happened? |
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| 03:51.05 | cluelessperson | antiwire: they are enabled |
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| 03:51.16 | nick12345 | oh... |
| 03:51.20 | nick12345 | i think i know why |
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| 03:51.27 | nick12345 | i booted up windows today |
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| 03:51.33 | nick12345 | could it have caused it? |
| 03:51.44 | cluelessperson | nick12345: lol, ntp.gov! |
| 03:51.55 | aypea[1] | hi. it's odd that I can't find this with apt but... anyone recommend a nice, simple, graphical statio util? I just need a simple graph over time. |
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| 03:52.17 | aypea[1] | nick12345: is your problem time changing after bootup? |
| 03:52.50 | nick12345 | no, im just curious why the time changed to the correct one. Only thing i did was boot up windows on this computer |
| 03:53.19 | aypea[1] | nick12345: that might do it. windows auto-ntps. it also stores localtime in bios |
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| 03:53.40 | Rusty1 | cluelessperson: cat /proc/cpuinfo - does it have vmx? |
| 03:53.49 | nick12345 | thanks, mystery solved |
| 03:54.07 | cluelessperson | Rusty1: https://cluelessperson.com/slice/5b5c85/1 |
| 03:54.17 | antiwire | ARK shows it does: http://ark.intel.com/products/77493/Intel-Core-i3-4360-Processor-4M-Cache-3_70-GHz |
| 03:54.26 | cluelessperson | Rusty1: I'm in bios right now but I can boot back up if I need to |
| 03:55.22 | antiwire | If it's not detecting the VT stuff, the motherboard might be the limitation. |
| 03:55.30 | Rusty1 | cluelessperson: link doesnt render here |
| 03:55.42 | cluelessperson | Rusty1: lawl, server's down |
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| 03:56.03 | cluelessperson | Rusty1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/11556754/ |
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| 03:56.53 | Rusty1 | vt-X , so that isn't the prob |
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| 03:57.08 | BoyDoy | hi i want to ask how can i make a effecive Disaster recovery? any sugget please |
| 03:57.35 | antiwire | cluelessperson: did you try to install ESXi and it failed |
| 03:57.36 | antiwire | ? |
| 03:57.44 | antiwire | this is so OT, btw |
| 03:57.59 | cluelessperson | antiwire: I did a month or two ago. OT? |
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| 03:58.53 | Rusty1 | anticw: off topic , might try #vmware |
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| 03:59.20 | Rusty1 | cluelessperson: OT= off topic , might try #vmware |
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| 04:30.15 | coldfront | Yesterday I reinstalled my OS and seem to of messed up my LVM. I just recrated the VG, and LG. I can't seem to mount the drive because it doesnt know what filesys to use, and seems to have a bad magic superblock. I have read around and tried different options. Nothing has seemed to work in the matter of getting the ext4 filesystem back up with the dir structure. I tried running testdisk, without |
| 04:30.15 | coldfront | any success. Now i am running Photorec which seems to be picking up all the files and such, it seems the data is still there but is there any other way to repair the structure,superblock that i could of missed? |
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| 04:41.27 | PryMar56 | coldfront, try to mount it with an offset: -o offset=$((512*2048)) |
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| 04:50.54 | coldfront | hmm |
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| 04:55.52 | coldfront | nah PryMar56 didnt work |
| 04:56.01 | coldfront | kicked back bad superblock |
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| 04:58.02 | PryMar56 | coldfront, to access a filesys in internal LVM, you need kpartx, vgscan first |
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| 05:32.47 | ptrz | if I get an "error: file not found" from GRUB, but the boot partition is visible in (hd0,msdos1)/ what am I doing wrong? |
| 05:32.59 | ptrz | I've already booted to a live CD, chrooted, and successfully run update-grub |
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| 05:36.44 | babilen | ptrz: And "grub-install /dev/sdX" (with /dev/sdX being something like /dev/sda and the device you boot from) ? |
| 05:37.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell ptrz -about fixmbr |
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| 05:37.27 | ptrz | babilen: the grub's already there, no? |
| 05:37.43 | ptrz | it's running, failing, and dropping me into the grub rescue prompt |
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| 05:38.48 | babilen | It might copy other relevant data |
| 05:38.50 | ptrz | by the way, this is after a fresh Jessie installation. /boot has its own primary partition, everything else is in different LVM partitions on the same disk |
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| 05:39.10 | babilen | (and you mounted everything in your chroot?) |
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| 05:42.26 | coldfront | well i give up on fixing this.. I will just start fresh, I have a question though right now i have a Perc6 Raid Card which doesn't support passthrough for a software raid. In the Hardware raid section i have it set upt with 4x1tB hds as one big raid 5 drive. Seeing it doesnt do passthrough and i am going to rebuild the drive anyways. Should I set the drives as Raid 0 in the HW Raid Controller, |
| 05:42.27 | coldfront | and add them to the LVM within linux? |
| 05:43.09 | coldfront | would that be a better practice with my setup right now and just remove the whole raid 5 anyways |
| 05:43.14 | coldfront | gives me more space |
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| 05:50.05 | jantwisted | hi all, is there a debian iso with classic gnome interface ? |
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| 05:53.39 | ptrz | babilen: I did mount everything |
| 05:53.51 | ptrz | I just tried again, but with install-grub /dev/sda |
| 05:54.02 | ptrz | I'm going to restart and test again, unless you have any more suggestions |
| 05:54.16 | ptrz | or know of anything I should check for in /boot or /boot/grub |
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| 05:57.39 | ptrz | success! |
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| 06:05.55 | fred1807 | how do I install this?? https://github.com/ceph/obsync |
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| 06:08.50 | rjsalts | fred1807: git clone? |
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| 06:10.33 | ptrz | where can I find a sane sources.list for a typical Jessie production server? |
| 06:10.42 | ptrz | I see a lot of different unexplained suggestions |
| 06:11.03 | rozie | ptrz: default should be OK |
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| 06:15.02 | ptrz | rozie: for some reason, my default was still pointed to a CD-ROM. Probably because I didn't have network connection during install. Regardless, I've found my answer in the wheezy->jessie guide |
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| 06:36.18 | coldfront | sure |
| 06:36.20 | fred1807 | may you ask if you may ask? |
| 06:36.21 | shibly | mail is not sending email, why is this? https://bpaste.net/show/cea713d1bad8 |
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| 06:36.46 | fred1807 | Authorization failed |
| 06:37.25 | fred1807 | maybe it is wrong password or username |
| 06:37.52 | soundtoxin | my second monitor stopped working and it doesn't show up as off in nvidia-settings |
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| 06:38.05 | soundtoxin | I had windows displaying on both monitors but anything I right clicked on the right brought up a menu on the left |
| 06:38.14 | shibly | Why? https://bpaste.net/show/b858ffa4983b |
| 06:38.15 | soundtoxin | so I went to nvidia-settings and hit apply and the second monitor turned off |
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| 06:38.48 | shibly | fred1807: coldfront ^ |
| 06:38.51 | shibly | What to do? |
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| 06:40.44 | fred1807 | is it related? give it a try http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=110684 |
| 06:40.52 | fred1807 | I really dontknow |
| 06:41.05 | fred1807 | maybe others can help |
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| 06:43.36 | DebianNoob | Wie kann ich über eth1 internetbekommen ausgehend von eth0? Bridge_Utils und ipforward bringen nichts hab mir jetzt so gut wie jedes tutorial reingezogen dass es gibt :P nichts bringt mich zum erfolg? |
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| 06:46.59 | DebianNoob | also in english: How can i get internet acces for eth1 via eth0 i tried Bridge_utils and Ipforward but notheng seems to help a lot. can you hlep? |
| 06:47.19 | DebianNoob | *nithing |
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| 06:50.08 | chele | How are you it? Be a bit more specific. |
| 06:50.29 | babilen | ptrz: My recommendation was simply to actually run "grub-install /dev/sda" and, from what I can tell, that worked. |
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| 06:52.13 | DebianNoob | so i use Debian and i just got Subnetting to work :) now i want Internet for my clients via eth1. I use VirtualBox to emulate my network and i thing the problem lies there |
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| 06:53.23 | DebianNoob | cause when i install bridgeutils my internet connection breaks and ip forwarding doesnt do anything |
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| 06:53.58 | chele | ,v bridgeutils |
| 06:54.00 | judd | No package named 'bridgeutils' was found in amd64. |
| 06:54.12 | DebianNoob | bridge_utils :) |
| 06:54.17 | chele | ,v bridge_utils |
| 06:54.18 | judd | No package named 'bridge_utils' was found in amd64. |
| 06:54.55 | chele | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:55.19 | chele | creation, deletion, adding of ifaces, removing ifaces ... |
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| 06:57.23 | DebianNoob | thats right :) my system sys that my bridge is online :) but when i bring it up "ifup" it says failed tu bring ub br0 so i thougt its already running but i cant even break it down with "ifdown". now my subnet is running pretty well without bridge |
| 06:57.31 | DebianNoob | *says |
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| 06:58.35 | DebianNoob | but i dont get internet for my clients but its important for my project |
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| 07:03.32 | chele | "my bridge is online" ? |
| 07:03.46 | chele | be more specific. |
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| 07:04.03 | soundtoxin | nothing is detecting my second monitor being plugged in, somehow disabled it through software and can't figure out how to undo it.. any advice? |
| 07:04.10 | _Raiz | https://youtu.be/kobrwhxgkgQ |
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| 07:05.30 | DebianNoob | yeah wenn i restart my system and type ifconfig br0 it seems to be ok? but the bridge doesn´t do what its meant to do :) a cant get in the Internet with my clients and with my server wenn i enable a bridge |
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| 07:09.07 | DebianNoob | ? whats that ? |
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| 07:12.28 | chele | bwachter.lart.info/linux/bridges.html |
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| 07:23.51 | techie28 | whenever I do "gksu nautilus" and press Alt + Tab to open adjacent window.. my system freezes |
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| 07:24.45 | techie28 | it also happens when I try to go into the folders like "etc" through the computer icon/files system |
| 07:25.02 | techie28 | im on Debian Jessie. |
| 07:25.08 | techie28 | any ideas please? |
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| 07:32.17 | fennesz | techie28, whenever I open a gui application I get : Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module . Don't know if this is a solution for your problem ,but it could lead you somewhere :) . Debian 8 |
| 07:33.02 | GPenguin | apt-cache search it for the proper name and install it |
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| 07:38.36 | fennesz | GPenguin, this apt-cache gives me this : http://pastebin.com/UcauuYJ1 |
| 07:38.50 | fennesz | GPenguin, what might me the correct one? |
| 07:38.56 | fennesz | be* |
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| 08:07.26 | fennesz | just for the input it was the libcanberra-gtk-module |
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| 08:21.24 | TuomasKotamaa1 | Hello everyone, again! What a great new day... Yesterday I learned about 'dbg' and core-dumbing when I bumbed into several segfaults after an update in Sid. Todays question's how does one correctly report a bug - and in what case should one report a bug? |
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| 09:14.20 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 09:14.49 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 09:15.13 | chrislp | Hi, I'm making a home server which shall run Debian. I will have several disks in RAID for file storage. Would it be fine to install the OS on the RAID array, together with the storage? |
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| 09:16.10 | Guest48843 | chrislp, absolutely, why not ? |
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| 09:18.03 | soundtoxin | My brother has a few home servers setup in a rack in his basement. He's done both installs right to the RAID and to an SSD with a RAID for storage. Both work great. |
| 09:18.26 | myztic | chrislp: out of interest, what raid are you going for, how many hdds? |
| 09:18.49 | chrislp | Guest48843: People just usually use something different for the OS in my experience. Myztic: For now just 2x WD RED NAS 3 TB disks in RAID 1. Might expand that in the future though. |
| 09:19.03 | petn-randall | chrislp: grub can handle RAID pretty fine (0 and 1 at least), you'll have to check if it can cope with any other ones. |
| 09:19.23 | petn-randall | chrislp: If not, you can just create a small RAID1 for /boot on the beginning of all disks. |
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| 09:19.47 | chrislp | petn-randall: That's a brilliant solution! |
| 09:19.55 | Agiofws | jelly, i was having problems with gnome flashback for example (no keyboard language switcher) but i could not log into gnome (classic or gnome3) due to vga driver limitations so i uninstalled the nouveau driver through synaptic and anything that referred to nvidia and to my astonishment gnome classic and gnome 3 worked... how ? what drivers is the system using? i tried to un-install the drivers so i could install proprietary Nvidia drive |
| 09:19.56 | Agiofws | r for my legacy geforce 5700LE card which i have not yet installed... greyscale ... |
| 09:20.18 | myztic | petn-randall: isn't that a hit performance-wise? |
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| 09:20.29 | darxmurf | found a old shitty cron on an old server which was doing a kind of safe copy of a folder every minutes... it was wrongly done... the owner of the server gave me a call because it was running out of inodes. We found more than 100'000'000 files to delete :D |
| 09:20.37 | darxmurf | but it takes a bit of time :D |
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| 09:20.57 | Agiofws | darxmurf, lol |
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| 09:21.35 | darxmurf | this shit is running since 2013 I think |
| 09:21.56 | Agiofws | did you change crons jobs copy time interval? |
| 09:22.05 | darxmurf | kicked out the cron job |
| 09:22.13 | myztic | petn-randall: usual recommendation is "use whole disks whenever possible", now you are even talking about mixing raid modes |
| 09:22.17 | Agiofws | what server? |
| 09:22.22 | darxmurf | it supposed to copy the folder ONLY if ontent has changed... |
| 09:22.32 | darxmurf | but apparently it was not working well :D |
| 09:22.53 | darxmurf | and all those files are stored on a netapp server... which makes snapshots ... \o/ |
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| 09:23.57 | darxmurf | s/ontent/content/ |
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| 09:24.21 | darxmurf | I was wondering why the netapp was so slow and crap... |
| 09:24.33 | darxmurf | finall I probably found the answer :D |
| 09:25.26 | Guest48843 | darxmurf, Did the server have an high load, with this level of I/O / |
| 09:25.29 | Guest48843 | ? |
| 09:25.58 | Agiofws | can anyone give me a tip on this ---> i was having problems with gnome flashback for example (no keyboard language switcher) but i could not log into gnome (classic or gnome3) due to vga driver limitations so i uninstalled the nouveau driver through synaptic and anything that referred to nvidia and to my astonishment gnome classic and gnome 3 worked... how ? what drivers is the system using? i tried to un-install the drivers so i could i |
| 09:25.58 | Agiofws | nstall proprietary Nvidia driver for my legacy geforce 5700LE card which i have not yet installed... |
| 09:25.58 | darxmurf | not that much, it was writing directly via NFS on netapp |
| 09:26.18 | darxmurf | I don't even know if you can monitor netapp load to be honest |
| 09:27.03 | SynrGy | Agiofws: check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 09:27.23 | Haris | hello all |
| 09:27.30 | Agiofws | to see what drivers xorg is using? SynrG ? |
| 09:27.38 | Haris | can one have php 5.4 on jessie/wheezy ? |
| 09:27.40 | SynrGy | Agiofws: yes |
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| 09:27.52 | darxmurf | Oh and by the way for my X issue yesterday... there was simply no screen pluged on the machine :D |
| 09:28.00 | SynrGy | ,v php5 |
| 09:28.01 | judd | Package: php5 on amd64 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3.1-7+squeeze26; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; stretch: 5.6.9+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.9+dfsg-1 |
| 09:28.15 | Agiofws | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/200055/ |
| 09:28.19 | SynrGy | Haris: what do you mean by "jessie/wheezy"? that's not a thing. |
| 09:28.30 | Haris | on both those versions of OS |
| 09:28.32 | SynrGy | Haris: yes, wheezy has 5.4. but jessie has 5.6 |
| 09:28.46 | SynrGy | Haris: so if all you need is >= 5.4, you're fine for both. |
| 09:30.06 | SynrGy | Haris: if you need exactly 5.4 on jessie and a later release is unsuitable, please explain. |
| 09:30.42 | Haris | I need to have same versions of php for staging/production |
| 09:31.12 | jelly | Haris: so have the same OS on both |
| 09:31.54 | Agiofws | is there an app that would generate an Xconfig file for the set up i am uing right now? |
| 09:32.16 | Agiofws | and try to use that with nouveua driver? |
| 09:32.22 | SynrGy | Haris: i agree with jelly. it's unwise to have your staging be a different release from production. very unwise. |
| 09:32.35 | jelly | Agiofws: nouveau does not require an xorg.conf |
| 09:32.35 | Agiofws | jelly, can i pm you ? |
| 09:32.53 | rainbowtux | Hi all, i am trying to build a squashfs system using live-build tools. iso works fine but creating a hdd image (.img) does not, no errors but no .img file either. Any ideas? |
| 09:33.04 | Agiofws | maybe thats causing the problems with gnome flashback maybe not |
| 09:33.06 | jelly | Agiofws: for tech support? No, keep it in here please. |
| 09:33.12 | SynrGy | Haris: if production is an older release than your development platform, consider using a VM with an older release for staging. |
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| 09:33.25 | Agiofws | did you read what i stated up above? |
| 09:33.44 | Agiofws | shuold i re paste it ? |
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| 09:34.25 | NuxRo | Hi, is there a way to tell partman-auto to also create a /boot or must I go full manual/expert? |
| 09:34.57 | chele | ,v gnupg2 |
| 09:34.58 | judd | Package: gnupg2 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.0.14-2+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 2.0.14-2+squeeze2; squeeze-security-lts: 2.0.14-2+squeeze3; wheezy: 2.0.19-2+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 2.0.19-2+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 2.0.25-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.0.26-6; stretch: 2.0.27-2; sid: 2.0.28-1; experimental: 2.1.4-2 |
| 09:35.05 | Agiofws | i'm just confused .. because i uninstalled nouveua and anything that refers to nvidia but system still boots into gui that needs 3d rendering how id that happening? jelly ? |
| 09:35.06 | SynrGy | Agiofws: that appears to be using the vesa driver. performance will be poor. no hw acceleration |
| 09:35.34 | Agiofws | ok thank you SynrG yes performance is poor |
| 09:35.43 | jelly | Agiofws: well, it's possible your card is so old nouveau does not support required 3D primitives for Gnome UI to work |
| 09:35.59 | jelly | heh, or not using nouveau at all |
| 09:36.08 | SynrGy | Agiofws: lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 09:36.19 | SynrGy | jelly: well, he said he removed nouveau |
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| 09:36.45 | jelly | wait what |
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| 09:36.54 | Agiofws | NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] |
| 09:37.25 | SynrGy | well, it's not what i asked for, but ok |
| 09:37.34 | Agiofws | ok wait |
| 09:37.43 | Agiofws | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] [10de:0343] (rev a1) |
| 09:38.54 | jelly | (supposed to be supported by both nouveau and nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms) |
| 09:39.12 | Agiofws | i removed everything referring to nvidia because i was trying to install the nvidia driver for my card and the installer was complaining but i have not gone through with the process yet... |
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| 09:39.42 | SynrGy | "the nvidia driver" from upstream? |
| 09:39.52 | SynrGy | i think this is just flailing. i would not recommend it. |
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| 09:40.16 | Agiofws | jelly, no its using the vesa driver which does run gnome that needs 3d acceleration graphics but its poor ... so what can i do? |
| 09:40.36 | Agiofws | the nvidia driver from there site for my card... |
| 09:40.43 | Agiofws | now* |
| 09:40.43 | SynrGy | don't do that. |
| 09:40.58 | Agiofws | will it break things? |
| 09:41.01 | SynrGy | just use nouveau and solve whatever remaining issues there are with that. |
| 09:41.02 | SynrGy | yes. |
| 09:41.10 | SynrGy | and it's entirely unnecessary anyway |
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| 09:41.50 | SynrGy | "i was having problems with gnome flashback for example (no keyboard language switcher)" ... uh, wtf? how would that have anything to do with the driver? |
| 09:41.51 | str0ke | hello, im trying to instal dual boot on my windows 7. Can someone help me? |
| 09:42.16 | Agiofws | SynrG, i'd like to try an nvidia open source driver again which one should i try from synaptic? maybe this time it will work... |
| 09:42.34 | SynrGy | "i could not log into gnome (classic or gnome3) due to vga driver limitations" <- what? ok, we would need details. this should "just work" |
| 09:42.49 | SynrGy | you need to show us the relevant logs for a failure |
| 09:42.56 | Agiofws | SynrG, gnome flash back is not maintained well so it has some issues... |
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| 09:43.07 | SynrGy | you don't need flashback |
| 09:43.22 | SynrGy | this card should work with nouvea with gnome-shell |
| 09:43.26 | SynrGy | nouveau* |
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| 09:44.16 | SynrGy | Agiofws: please 'lsmod | grep nouveau'. is it loaded? if not, you might have it blacklisted. that would definitely cause problems. |
| 09:44.19 | Agiofws | SynrG, with the nouveua driver gnome 3 and gnome classic would not work because they need hw 3d acceleration which nouvea driver does not support... so i could not log into them |
| 09:44.35 | Agiofws | agiofws@P4:/etc/X11$ lsmod | grep nouveau |
| 09:44.35 | Agiofws | agiofws@P4:/etc/X11$ |
| 09:45.06 | Agiofws | do you want me to install nouvea driver? |
| 09:45.44 | Agiofws | via synaptic? |
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| 09:47.38 | Agiofws | my card is too old to get supported from nouvea but vesa drivers work with it in gnome UI? |
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| 09:48.00 | Agiofws | SynrG, what do you think i should try out? |
| 09:48.10 | SynrGy | Agiofws: umm. http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/ |
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| 09:48.22 | SynrGy | Agiofws: you have an NV30 card ... |
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| 09:48.36 | SynrGy | Agiofws: look at "3D features" in that matrix |
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| 09:49.05 | SynrGy | Agiofws: every single feature that is applicable to the NV30 series cards is marked "DONE" |
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| 09:50.32 | SynrGy | Agiofws: do you have libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx? |
| 09:50.42 | Agiofws | let me check |
| 09:52.08 | Agiofws | SynrG, yes i have both of them |
| 09:52.28 | SynrGy | Agiofws: the lack of nouveau in lsmod tells me you probably have it blacklisted. |
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| 09:52.55 | SynrGy | Agiofws: in all your flailing about yesterday, you probably threw a blacklist in there on someone else's recommendation, or else have not purged a package providing that blacklist |
| 09:53.09 | Agiofws | yes i think running the nvidia installer did that BUT did not install |
| 09:53.14 | Agiofws | wait |
| 09:53.29 | SynrGy | Agiofws: you ran the upstream nvidia installer? ugggh |
| 09:53.41 | Agiofws | yes .... BUT it did not install |
| 09:53.48 | Agiofws | it just black listed |
| 09:53.51 | Agiofws | nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf |
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| 09:54.01 | Agiofws | remove that file and reboot? |
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| 09:54.14 | SynrGy | Agiofws: did you uninstall the upstream stuff? |
| 09:54.27 | SynrGy | Agiofws: i don't recommend hand-removing anything until you've run their uninstall |
| 09:55.01 | SynrGy | Agiofws: and then we can examine the state of the system and manually cleanup all the crap they broke |
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| 09:55.14 | Agiofws | ok but i think it did not install anything it just asked to to blacklist the novea driver which i already had uninstalled via synaptic |
| 09:55.16 | SynrGy | Agiofws: painful. this is why you don't run upstream's installer. it's crap |
| 09:55.29 | SynrGy | Agiofws: it's not doing what you think it's doing |
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| 09:55.42 | Agiofws | ok how do i uninstall ? |
| 09:55.49 | SynrGy | Agiofws: 'the nouveau driver' (from xorg) is not 'the nouveau kernel module' which is in your kernel. |
| 09:56.06 | SynrGy | Agiofws: blacklisting applies to the latter, not the former |
| 09:56.24 | Agiofws | is there an uninstaller from nvidia? |
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| 09:56.37 | Agiofws | maybe if i unzip it ? |
| 09:56.46 | Agiofws | but its not a zip file |
| 09:56.57 | SynrGy | Agiofws: i cannot help with that. upstream's installer is not supported here. |
| 09:57.06 | Agiofws | i remember years ago that it installed some files somewhere |
| 09:57.10 | SynrGy | Agiofws: all i can say is in general, installers tend to install uninstallers. |
| 09:57.17 | SynrGy | so you need to investigate. |
| 09:58.06 | Agiofws | BUT again i stress that it did not install anything because i remember what it does when to does try to install it |
| 09:58.30 | Agiofws | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.39-pkg1.run |
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| 09:58.37 | SynrGy | how did it blacklist then? |
| 09:58.44 | SynrGy | or was that a manual step? |
| 09:58.53 | SynrGy | if manual then yes, just remove that file. |
| 09:59.12 | Agiofws | /usr/share? |
| 09:59.24 | SynrGy | 06:56 < SynrGy> Agiofws: i cannot help with that. upstream's installer is not supported here. |
| 09:59.31 | SynrGy | so don't ask me. they could put it anywhere. |
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| 09:59.56 | SynrGy | /opt, /usr/local, who knows |
| 09:59.59 | Agiofws | kk |
| 10:00.48 | SynrGy | Agiofws: once you're satisfied you have removed it (however ... running an uninstaller is preferred, but if not, then i guess you have to resort to manual removal) then yes, reboot without the blacklist and redo the lsmod | grep nouveau |
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| 10:01.08 | SynrGy | Agiofws: if you have nouveau being loaded at boot, and mesa installed, you should be able to reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 10:01.31 | SynrGy | Agiofws: if-and-when you get that far, if you're still having issues, we need to see at least your /var/log/Xorg.0.log, and possibly other logs. please write this down. |
| 10:01.42 | SynrGy | we thrive on details here. |
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| 10:02.02 | Agiofws | ok storing it to notepad |
| 10:02.06 | Agiofws | tomboy? |
| 10:02.18 | SynrGy | whatever works for you :) |
| 10:02.38 | SynrGy | best to *not* rely on anything that requires a GUI to access is all |
| 10:02.44 | SynrGy | so, a plain text file |
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| 10:03.40 | SynrGy | i have limited time/energy for this, and others here who've been helping in the past 24 hrs may be burnt out on trying to help already ... hopefully if i vanish, someone will have pity and pick up the investigation. |
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| 10:04.01 | SynrGy | just some general advice: be systematic. write things down. always provide logs / complete output of commands you tried (via paste.debian.net) |
| 10:04.04 | SynrGy | don't be vauge. |
| 10:04.06 | Agiofws | its oko you've already helped alot |
| 10:04.07 | SynrGy | vague*. |
| 10:04.18 | SynrGy | k. good luck |
| 10:05.35 | SynrGy | and by 'flailing' i meant 'try something random because i don't understand what's wrong and am desperate' <--- don't do that :) |
| 10:05.45 | SynrGy | you will dig yourself a deeper hole. |
| 10:06.29 | Agiofws | NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.39-pkg1.run --uninstall |
| 10:06.31 | Agiofws | sec |
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| 10:07.17 | Agiofws | There is no NVIDIA driver currently installed. |
| 10:07.19 | Agiofws | :) |
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| 10:07.25 | SynrGy | well, so it *claims* |
| 10:07.36 | SynrGy | but if we hit problems later, we'll sort it out |
| 10:07.54 | SynrGy | the blacklist file is still there? remove that and reboot |
| 10:07.57 | Agiofws | rm nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf ? |
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| 10:08.09 | SynrGy | yes. step one is just making sure the kernel module loads at boot |
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| 10:08.59 | Agiofws | SynrG, apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-video-nouveau libdrm-nouveau2 or Reboot? |
| 10:09.37 | AdorableGNU | I'm on Debian Jessie with the MATE desktop, and when I close the lid, it goes to sleep. It won't wake up out of sleep. The screen stays black. Is there any known remedy to this. |
| 10:10.08 | jelly | Agiofws: you don't have to explicitely install libdrm-nouveau2, it's a dependency for xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
| 10:10.21 | Agiofws | AdorableGNU, it might be a kernel issue try your older kernel and see if it works |
| 10:10.28 | Agiofws | ok i'll reboot first |
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| 10:10.57 | AdorableGNU | I just installed Jessie. Shouldn't there only be one kernel? I don't believe I've received any kernel updates. |
| 10:11.22 | Brigo | AdorableGNU, what kernel are you using? |
| 10:11.32 | AdorableGNU | Is there a way to check which kernel? |
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| 10:12.28 | SynrGy | AdorableGNU: uname -a |
| 10:12.40 | AdorableGNU | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1 (2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 10:12.48 | SynrGy | ,kernels |
| 10:12.49 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
| 10:12.59 | SynrGy | that is a jessie kernel, yes. |
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| 10:14.45 | Brigo | AdorableGNU, you could try to check logs. May be it will show you what the problem is. |
| 10:14.59 | AdorableGNU | Do you know which log I should check for that? |
| 10:15.05 | SynrGy | AdorableGNU: as for "your older kernel" there wouldn't be one for a fresh jessie install, no |
| 10:15.13 | Agiofws | ok |
| 10:15.16 | petn-randall | AdorableGNU: What is the output of "dpkg -l 'linux-image-*'"? → http://paste.debian.net |
| 10:15.22 | Agiofws | SynrG, lsmod | grep nouveau | pastebinit ; http://paste.debian.net/200140/ |
| 10:15.37 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:15.54 | petn-randall | AdorableGNU: Oh wait, you actually are running the current jessie kernel. |
| 10:16.06 | SynrGy | yay, nouveau is loaded. useless use of cat, btw. you can just say 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' |
| 10:16.11 | Brigo | AdorableGNU, journalctl |
| 10:16.25 | Agiofws | thanks for the tip SynrG |
| 10:17.21 | SynrGy | Agiofws: so then we just address: |
| 10:17.22 | SynrGy | [ 21.478] (EE) Failed to load module "nouveau" (module does not exist, 0) |
| 10:17.33 | SynrGy | Agiofws: with apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau |
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| 10:17.55 | AdorableGNU | http://paste.debian.net/200142/ |
| 10:18.03 | bobol | hi |
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| 10:18.50 | Agiofws | SynrG, do we need to blacklist vesa driver? |
| 10:19.14 | SynrGy | Agiofws: blacklisting isn't what you think it is. i've explained this before. it's about kernel modules, *not* Xorg's drivers |
| 10:19.31 | SynrGy | Agiofws: Xorg does a perfectly acceptable job of probing all the available drivers and loading the "best" |
| 10:19.39 | Agiofws | oh ok |
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| 10:19.42 | AdorableGNU | No journal files were found. |
| 10:19.50 | Agiofws | ok reboot? |
| 10:19.53 | SynrGy | Agiofws: video on Linux has two parts: the kernel part, and the Xorg part. |
| 10:20.13 | SynrGy | Agiofws: after installing xserver-xorg-video-nouveau, as I explained above, you just need to restart gdm3 |
| 10:20.22 | SynrGy | rebooting is entirely unnecessary |
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| 10:20.37 | Agiofws | stop lightdm and start gdm3 |
| 10:20.39 | Agiofws | ok |
| 10:20.40 | SynrGy | if the kernel loaded nouveau at boot, you're fine. and we proved that with lsmod |
| 10:20.55 | Agiofws | and then try gnome classic |
| 10:21.07 | SynrGy | if you like. but gnome-shell should work too. |
| 10:21.23 | Agiofws | gnome-shell? |
| 10:21.29 | SynrGy | but the main thing is to get Xorg back up and examine /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see if we've made progress. |
| 10:21.34 | SynrGy | yes, the default GNOME desktop |
| 10:21.37 | Agiofws | oh ok |
| 10:21.40 | Agiofws | let me try |
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| 10:23.28 | agenthex | heya, folks. if anyone's around, i'm wondering if i can boot to Debian 7.x and install 8.x to /dev/sda. is there a way to do that, or should i try boot to live usb, install 7.x, and change sources.list to point to jessie? |
| 10:23.56 | centrx | huh? |
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| 10:24.27 | agenthex | i'm trying to multiboot usb stick with Windows/Linux/tools and 8.0 is giving me problems trying to read from the "cdrom" |
| 10:24.29 | petn-randall | agenthex: You can also simply upgrade your 7.x installation to 8.0. |
| 10:24.41 | agenthex | don't have a 7.x install, but i could easily make one. |
| 10:25.05 | agenthex | is the upgrade option in apt? synaptic? other? |
| 10:25.10 | agenthex | apt-get upgrade? |
| 10:25.13 | agenthex | or something else? |
| 10:25.21 | petn-randall | agenthex: If your problem is that your 8.0 usb stick doesn't boot, it's a very weird way to ask. |
| 10:25.34 | petn-randall | agenthex: That's usually called xy problem :) |
| 10:25.36 | petn-randall | !xy |
| 10:25.36 | dpkg | Slow down for a bit! Are you sure that you need to jump through that particular hoop to achieve your goal? We suspect you don't, so why don't you back up a bit and tell us about the overall objective... We know that people often falsely diagnose problems because they are too close to them -- it's easy to miss that there is a better way to do proceed. See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem |
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| 10:25.53 | petn-randall | agenthex: How did you prepare the usb stick? |
| 10:26.08 | agenthex | well, that's just it. it does boot. it boots to live environment, but the installer doesn't work. it boots to the CLI installer, but it can't find the "cdrom" directory. |
| 10:26.22 | agenthex | i used a tool called Multiboot. |
| 10:26.47 | agenthex | allows me to put multiple ISO on a single USB. |
| 10:26.50 | petn-randall | agenthex: Don't use that tool. Just use the methods described in the release notes. |
| 10:26.52 | SynrGy | agenthex: don't do that. |
| 10:27.19 | SynrGy | agenthex: and if it was you who said "but this worked before" yesterday, sorry, i don't know how you got it to work, but this has never been supported. |
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| 10:27.51 | agenthex | i have one 64gb flash drive. i'm not dd to usb because that will destroy the partition. |
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| 10:28.07 | SynrGy | agenthex: then follow the debian installation guide for that use case. |
| 10:28.21 | SynrGy | it offers other methods. |
| 10:29.07 | agenthex | does netinst have wi-fi support? i've never had good times with netinst. |
| 10:29.29 | SynrGy | yes, it does. in prior releases, install over wifi could be a pain |
| 10:29.51 | SynrGy | should be fine with jessie, *but* if you have a wifi requiring non-free firmware (as many do) you need the unofficial firmware installer image |
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| 10:30.20 | SynrGy | !firmware images |
| 10:30.20 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
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| 10:30.37 | blackpenguin | i think you need the firmware file on a separated storage only, I remember an option to load them |
| 10:30.51 | agenthex | Atheros AR9285. |
| 10:30.54 | SynrGy | or that. but the firmware image is handier |
| 10:31.22 | agenthex | afaik, Qualcomm is not evil. |
| 10:31.41 | jelly | agenthex: there are ways of making the .iso work in a multiboot environment, but it seems a bit tricky http://www.preining.info/blog/2015/05/usb-stick-update-debian-is-back-plus-grml/ |
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| 10:32.00 | blackpenguin | might be. I prefer ethernet (have setup a local PXE server with up to date netinst images) |
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| 10:32.53 | jelly | agenthex: apparently current images are missing initrd bits to detect where their .iso is |
| 10:32.53 | SynrGy | agenthex: ar9285 does not require firmware. |
| 10:33.11 | SynrGy | err, i think |
| 10:33.21 | jelly | !ar9285 |
| 10:33.21 | dpkg | ath9k is a completely free (no proprietary HAL) Linux kernel driver supporting PCI/PCIe 802.11n wireless LAN devices with Atheros chips. It does not require firmware from userspace. See https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k for more information and supported devices. For Atheros 802.11n USB device support, ask me about <ath9k_htc>, <carl9170>. |
| 10:33.41 | SynrGy | right. thanks |
| 10:34.35 | agenthex | nice. ok, i'll try a netinst image. thanks. |
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| 10:35.20 | SynrGy | agenthex: if you're staying with multiboot but just switching images, that's not going to work. |
| 10:35.57 | SynrGy | agenthex: but you can use one of the alternate methods to install listed in the debian installation guide |
| 10:36.28 | SynrGy | !install debian |
| 10:36.28 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 10:36.36 | SynrGy | !install guide |
| 10:36.36 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 8 "Jessie" can be found at https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/installmanual . See also <errata>, <jessie release notes>. |
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| 10:38.34 | g00se | Can't seem to install ia32-libs in Wheezy 64. Seems odd -> http://sprunge.us/fDGJ |
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| 10:39.12 | centrx | dpkg, tell g00se about multiarch |
| 10:39.32 | centrx | g00se, ia32-libs is a transitional/meta package in wheezy |
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| 10:39.46 | centrx | g00se, apt-cache show ia32-libs |
| 10:39.52 | SynrGy | also, this is a bit of an X/Y |
| 10:39.59 | SynrGy | what are you actually trying to accomplish? |
| 10:40.27 | SynrGy | sounds like you're following wrong instructions for the web, or using old instructions from memory for something that's done differently since wheezy. |
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| 10:41.26 | g00se | http://sprunge.us/eVTe |
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| 10:41.43 | centrx | yup that's what it says |
| 10:42.04 | g00se | Ah i see - i need to enable multiarch |
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| 10:42.58 | SynrGy | g00se: yes, and you shouldn't be using this package anyway |
| 10:43.05 | SynrGy | g00se: so again, what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 10:43.26 | g00se | Try to run a 32 bit version of Teamviewer |
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| 10:43.45 | SynrGy | and Teamviewer says to install ia32-libs? if so, their instructions are probably wrong |
| 10:44.15 | SynrGy | but if they're still making a package that depends on ia32-libs, i guess you have to live with it :p |
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| 10:44.48 | SynrGy | consider not using Teamviewer. |
| 10:44.49 | agenthex | also, while i'm here. is there a way to install the opencl driver for amd cpu without fglrx? |
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| 10:45.19 | g00se | No. I tried installing a 64 bit deb but there were dependency issues |
| 10:45.58 | centrx | teamviewer does work on wheezy if you enable multiarch |
| 10:46.02 | centrx | but yeah don't use teamviewer |
| 10:46.26 | g00se | I can't justify that amount of cruft |
| 10:46.41 | g00se | (i.e. libraries ;)) |
| 10:46.58 | SynrGy | g00se: what 'dependency issues'? |
| 10:47.20 | SynrGy | g00se: if it requires it, and you require teamviewer, how is it 'cruft'? |
| 10:47.21 | centrx | teamviewer is the cruft |
| 10:47.24 | SynrGy | yes |
| 10:47.30 | SynrGy | this is exactly my point :) |
| 10:47.31 | g00se | Can't quite remember. I'll try again, though i don't like installing 'raw debs' |
| 10:48.09 | g00se | because i'd be installing hundreds of megs of libraries for one app |
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| 10:48.49 | SynrGy | g00se: and how is that an issue? modern hdds are terabytes |
| 10:49.11 | SynrGy | is your internet connection subpar? |
| 10:49.18 | centrx | Use VNC instead of teamviewer? |
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| 10:49.37 | AdorableGNU | Is dist-upgrade gone? :-/ |
| 10:49.41 | AdorableGNU | What's its replacement? |
| 10:49.59 | SynrGy | AdorableGNU: no. 'apt-get dist-upgrade', though, not 'aptitude dist-upgrade', which never existed to begin with. |
| 10:50.06 | petn-randall | AdorableGNU: It still works just like in the last 5 release ... |
| 10:50.07 | SynrGy | (just a guess) |
| 10:50.17 | petn-randall | *releases |
| 10:50.36 | AdorableGNU | It's telling me it's not there |
| 10:50.41 | SynrGy | oh wait, aptitude apparently does recognize dist-upgrade as a synonym for full-upgrade |
| 10:50.44 | petn-randall | AdorableGNU: What are you running? |
| 10:50.53 | g00se | I have only a small hd |
| 10:50.57 | AdorableGNU | bash: dist-upgrade: command not found |
| 10:51.03 | centrx | ... |
| 10:51.05 | SynrGy | AdorableGNU: 'apt-get dist-upgrade' |
| 10:51.11 | SynrGy | AdorableGNU: follow instructions :) |
| 10:51.18 | petn-randall | AdorableGNU: The command dist-upgrade never existed. What SynrGy said (twice). |
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| 10:51.35 | g00se | VNC is not possible when your remoter can't stuff about with firewalls and port forwarding |
| 10:52.10 | AdorableGNU | So I guess 'apt-get update && dist-upgrade' is bad syntax? |
| 10:52.11 | SynrGy | g00se: consider getting a hard drive upgrade. |
| 10:52.12 | AdorableGNU | haha |
| 10:52.20 | SynrGy | exactly |
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| 10:52.45 | petn-randall | AdorableGNU: You want 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' |
| 10:52.58 | AdorableGNU | Thanks. I feel 'special'. :-) |
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| 10:54.32 | julius__ | hi |
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| 10:54.53 | julius__ | what happens if a packet is in 2 repositories, for example the distribution one and deb http://deb.torproject.org/torproject.org jessie main ? |
| 10:54.59 | julius__ | what version will apt prefer? |
| 10:56.22 | g00se | This is what happens when trying to install Teamviewer 64bit deb: http://sprunge.us/SDAU ( note THAT depends on ia32-libs ;) ) |
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| 10:57.18 | SynrGy | julius__: 'apt-cache policy packagename' will answer that |
| 10:57.22 | manous | hello |
| 10:57.47 | manous | it's possible to use debian 8 on centos with kvm |
| 10:57.53 | manous | i have error |
| 10:57.58 | SynrGy | julius__: in general, the one with the higher version# within the default release, except where pin priorities have changed that |
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| 11:01.30 | SynrGy | manous: should be. what's the error? |
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| 11:01.38 | Agiofws | hi to all |
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| 11:01.43 | SynrGy | Agiofws: hey |
| 11:01.50 | Agiofws | SynrG, back... |
| 11:01.57 | SynrGy | Agiofws: really? hadn't noticed |
| 11:02.02 | SynrGy | ;) |
| 11:02.24 | Agiofws | ok i did not reboot... but gdm3 failed to restart ; and i can only login into gnome flash back now... |
| 11:02.43 | SynrGy | none of that is important. what's important is a new /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 11:02.48 | Agiofws | so i started up lightdm and lgged into gnome flashback |
| 11:02.51 | Agiofws | ok |
| 11:02.53 | Agiofws | sec |
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| 11:03.53 | SynrGy | Agiofws: i'm breaking it down for you into the smallest possible steps. trying to encourage you to follow a methodical approach. i'm trying to say exactly what we're doing and what the expected outcome is at each step. be patient and only do exactly each step, and then provide the next output. |
| 11:04.18 | SynrGy | because the other approach "try a whole bunch of stuff and hope it finally works" has not been working for you. (and in general is not a good approach.) |
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| 11:04.54 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/200346/ http://paste.debian.net/200347/ SynrG |
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| 11:06.30 | SynrGy | Agiofws: that all looks good, so do the command from the first paste (journalctl -xn) and provide a new paste with that output |
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| 11:06.34 | manous | http://paste.openstack.org/show/262578/ |
| 11:06.55 | SynrGy | Agiofws: also the other command, 'systemctl status gdm.service' |
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| 11:09.08 | SynrGy | Agiofws: the Xorg.0.log says nouveau loaded, drm is working, AIGLX is enabled. it all looks fine from a "this driver should support gnome-shell" POV. |
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| 11:10.26 | jelly | manous: could you rerun the same command, but with LC_ALL=C in front? "LC_ALL=C virt-install --name debian [...]" |
| 11:10.29 | SynrGy | Agiofws: output from 'glxinfo' (provided by the mesa-utils package which you need to install if you don't already have it) may also help to confirm it. |
| 11:10.44 | SynrGy | Agiofws: but first, i would like to see the other info i asked for. |
| 11:11.16 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/200348/ journalctl -xn |
| 11:11.51 | SynrGy | unfortunately it wasn't soon enough after the failure |
| 11:11.57 | SynrGy | make gdm3 fail, then journactl -xn |
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| 11:12.08 | SynrGy | journalctl* |
| 11:12.10 | Agiofws | systemctl -l status gdm.service | pastebinit |
| 11:12.10 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/200350/ |
| 11:12.12 | Agiofws | ok |
| 11:13.00 | dnsk_ | Anyone else having Youtube issues with Iceweasel? |
| 11:13.00 | Agiofws | pastebinit |
| 11:13.00 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/200351/ |
| 11:13.05 | SynrGy | unfortunately, that systemctl output says *that* it failed, but not why |
| 11:13.07 | dnsk_ | Also are the backports out? |
| 11:13.10 | Agiofws | glxinfo ^^ |
| 11:13.41 | SynrGy | Agiofws: so "direct rendering: Yes" is a good sign. this means you have hardware accel that is needed by gnome-shell |
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| 11:13.50 | SynrGy | Agiofws: which earlier you were confused about |
| 11:13.52 | manous | http://paste.openstack.org/show/262590/ |
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| 11:13.58 | Agiofws | ok going to make gdm fail |
| 11:14.01 | Agiofws | ok? |
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| 11:14.16 | SynrGy | yes. make sure you're logged out of X, shutdown lightdm |
| 11:14.30 | SynrGy | start gdm3, then provide journalctl -xn |
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| 11:14.54 | jelly | manous: uh, without the quotes |
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| 11:16.03 | manous | http://paste.openstack.org/show/262601/ |
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| 11:17.09 | Agiofws | pastebinit gdm2.txt |
| 11:17.10 | Agiofws | http://paste.debian.net/200352/ SynrG |
| 11:18.45 | SynrGy | Agiofws: ok, now the next task is to figure out *why* gdm3 fails from finding/analyzing the appropriate logs. |
| 11:18.46 | jelly | manous: what if you used --os-variant debian7 ? |
| 11:18.49 | SynrGy | unfortunately, i'm out of time |
| 11:18.51 | Agiofws | don't you want a log of Xorg when gdm is failing though |
| 11:18.53 | SynrGy | have to go to work |
| 11:18.58 | SynrGy | we already saw it |
| 11:18.58 | Agiofws | ok |
| 11:19.04 | SynrGy | Xorg.0.log does not log gdm3 failures |
| 11:19.07 | SynrGy | Xorg looks fine. |
| 11:19.19 | manous | jelly: i want to install debian 8 |
| 11:19.26 | Agiofws | yes but that was after i logged into flash back with lightdm |
| 11:19.26 | jelly | manous: I'm aware of that. |
| 11:19.30 | manous | it's not in os variant |
| 11:19.32 | SynrGy | so, i hand you off to the other fine helpers here. hopefully someone has ideas as to where gdm3 keeps its logs |
| 11:19.34 | manous | so i use generic |
| 11:19.42 | SynrGy | Agiofws: that's irrelevant. different layer. |
| 11:19.52 | SynrGy | Agiofws: Xorg.0.log *only* logs Xorg stuff. not desktop stuff. |
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| 11:20.11 | SynrGy | i gotta scoot. good luck. and remember, no more switching drivers for the moment! debug the gdm3 problem! |
| 11:20.18 | SynrGy | tiny steps. |
| 11:20.21 | SynrGy | bye |
| 11:20.37 | Agiofws | so its not a Xorg problem but a login manager problem? |
| 11:21.14 | Agiofws | could i try the nvidia driver from synaptic? |
| 11:21.25 | jelly | manous: yeah, but debian7 might detect the .iso better |
| 11:21.38 | Agiofws | ok... and thank you for your valuable help to pin point out this problem |
| 11:21.39 | jelly | just guessing wildly |
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| 11:22.28 | manous | ok right but i have same error |
| 11:22.59 | jelly | manous: ok. Does /var/lib/libvirt/images/debian-8.0.0-amd64-CD-1.iso exist? |
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| 11:24.41 | manous | yeah it's exist |
| 11:25.05 | manous | ith other distribution is done |
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| 11:25.11 | manous | but only with debian |
| 11:25.24 | jelly | manous: wierd. Can you try using the network install thingy, instead of local .iso, use --location 'http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/installer-amd64/' |
| 11:25.55 | manous | i am trying |
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| 11:29.15 | manous | it's work fine |
| 11:29.27 | manous | thanks may be iso is bad |
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| 11:31.56 | jelly | or maybe virt-install needs to be updated to work with it |
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| 11:34.00 | manous | may be |
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| 11:35.55 | manous | [root@kvm ~]# virt-install --version 1.1.0 |
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| 11:37.07 | manous | what is last version ? |
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| 11:52.56 | dokma | My debian box froze up yesterday while watching an HD video on youtube. I have an HD3450 that I had to fix 2x by replacing blown capacitors already. Is there maybe some way to test if the graphics card is the weak spot? |
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| 11:55.00 | arminius | dokma: as long as you *fixed* the capacitors, i would first of all spot a software problem. do you use proprietary X drivers? |
| 11:55.23 | dokma | can't remember anymore |
| 11:55.26 | g00se | Thanks guys |
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| 11:55.36 | dokma | let me take a look |
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| 11:56.52 | dokma | arminius, /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.so |
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| 11:58.13 | julius__ | SynrGy, thx |
| 11:58.17 | arminius | dokma: did you have a look at what X logs? |
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| 11:59.07 | julius__ | SynrGy, one is 0.2.5.12-1 0 and the other one is: 0.2.5.12-1~d79.jessie+1 0 apt thinks the first is "better" what could the d79 stand for? |
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| 11:59.40 | dokma | arminius, I don't see anything problematic such as EE or similar |
| 12:00.23 | dokma | The machine has been function impeccably since the last capacitor change. |
| 12:01.09 | dokma | Which was some 3 years ago. I suspect another one might be close to EOL. Are there any stress tests for graphic cards on Debian? |
| 12:02.51 | arminius | dokma: hmmmmmmm |
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| 12:19.50 | TuomasKotamaa | Hello again. Previously today I asked about when to report a bug, and when to just wait for it to go away. Since yesterdays upgrade on Sid I've had several segfaults with several programs. So far I've worked around all but one: #0 0xb76a0788 in nettle_yarrow256_update () from /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libnettle.so.4 This lib seems to have many problems and there are already many bug reports about its behavior. So should I make |
| 12:19.50 | TuomasKotamaa | another? |
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| 12:24.33 | vw73 | Uhh why is dhcpd listening on port 63506 as well as 67? |
| 12:24.48 | vw73 | 67 waiting for clients to connect got it, whats 63506 for? |
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| 12:30.03 | TuomasKotamaa | Sorry, I keep loosing my connection. |
| 12:32.50 | nkuttler | TuomasKotamaa: if there already is a bug report there's no point in creating a new one |
| 12:33.02 | nkuttler | TuomasKotamaa: if you have useful info to add to the existing bug report, do that |
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| 13:00.07 | bababooo | hi, what is the best way to convert mp4 to mp3 in Debian 8 (Jessie)? The ffmpeg is no longer a part of Debian package |
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| 13:00.29 | aypea[1] | bababoo avconv |
| 13:02.10 | bababooo | aypea[1], is there an easy tutorial with commands for conversion |
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| 13:05.38 | vw73 | Why am I getting Operation not supported when trying to PXE boot a KVM vm? I already have a second vm acting as a dhcp and tftp server |
| 13:05.58 | vw73 | ipxe.org/3c092003 |
| 13:06.05 | Agiofws | hi |
| 13:06.22 | Agiofws | can anyone take a look at http://paste.debian.net/200717/ and http://paste.debian.net/200718/ ? |
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| 13:12.03 | darxmurf | Agiofws: what't the issue ? |
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| 13:15.11 | Agiofws | gnome shell or gnome 3 or gdm3 will not load work with nouveau graphic driver |
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| 13:16.21 | darxmurf | I always had bad perf with nouveau :-/ |
| 13:16.42 | darxmurf | I'm always installing the NVIDIA driver now |
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| 13:16.48 | Agiofws | well vesa driver is worse for 3d accel. graphics |
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| 13:16.57 | Agiofws | which one? |
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| 13:44.42 | Chetic | Does anybody know of some kind of brief overview of the various entrypoints for the scripts in a debian package? All the possible ways postinst, preinst, postrm, prerm and whatever else can be run |
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| 13:47.17 | jelly | Chetic: https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-maintainerscripts.html |
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| 13:48.54 | themill | Chetic: the diagrams at http://wiki.debian.org/MaintainerScripts are also very good |
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| 13:52.54 | darxmurf | Agiofws: the one available on nvidia website |
| 13:52.59 | darxmurf | what's your card ? |
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| 13:55.32 | Agiofws | darxmurf, NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] (rev a1) |
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| 13:56.16 | Agiofws | the thing is darxmurf that the one from nvidias site will break things in jessie os i'd like the one that debian suggests |
| 13:56.17 | Chetic | Excellent tips jelly and themill! Much appreciated |
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| 13:56.40 | darxmurf | Agiofws: break what ? |
| 13:57.16 | darxmurf | hum, version from 2013 on the site |
| 13:57.22 | darxmurf | maybe you are right :) |
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| 13:57.35 | Agiofws | nvidias binarys do things that harm the system and you have to fix them manually after that... and when you uninstall they don't leave the system as expected |
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| 13:57.56 | darxmurf | yep |
| 13:58.06 | Agiofws | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86 |
| 13:58.07 | darxmurf | did you try the package nvidia-driver in the repos ? |
| 13:58.10 | darxmurf | ,v nvidia-driver |
| 13:58.11 | judd | Package: nvidia-driver on amd64 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; stretch/non-free: 340.76-2; sid/non-free: 340.76-2; experimental/non-free: 343.36-1 |
| 13:58.14 | Agiofws | but i don't know which one |
| 13:58.23 | Agiofws | its an old card |
| 13:58.27 | darxmurf | yep |
| 13:58.31 | darxmurf | change it :D |
| 13:58.41 | Agiofws | i'm on jessie |
| 13:58.49 | Agiofws | and i'm on 32bit |
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| 14:00.32 | Agiofws | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx ? |
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| 14:05.20 | darxmurf | you can try, your card is listed in the description |
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| 14:08.12 | darxmurf | but you have to delete the "nouveau" driver |
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| 14:08.38 | darxmurf | usually 1) kill X server 2) unload and blacklist "nouveau" 3) install nvidia driver |
| 14:09.36 | Agiofws | darxmurf, i'm on jessie not wheezy ... how do i do that then? |
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| 14:10.55 | Agiofws | hey |
| 14:11.04 | Brigo | Agiofws, if you have non-free repositories actived, then just apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 14:11.09 | Agiofws | can i install this in jessie ? https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx |
| 14:11.34 | Agiofws | nvidia-driver won't support my card its too old? |
| 14:11.39 | Agiofws | Brigo, ? |
| 14:12.13 | darxmurf | Brigo it's a pretty old card |
| 14:12.19 | darxmurf | I think the driver will not support it |
| 14:12.37 | darxmurf | Agiofws: could you please install nvidia-detect and launch it ? |
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| 14:12.40 | darxmurf | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/x11/nvidia-detect |
| 14:12.49 | Brigo | darxmurf, ah, so legacy? |
| 14:12.56 | darxmurf | yep :-/ |
| 14:13.08 | darxmurf | it was pretty legacy in wheezy |
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| 14:13.44 | darxmurf | Agiofws: in the end you can try the nvidia-driver if it's not working just delete it and try something else |
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| 14:14.04 | darxmurf | Brigo the official nvidia linux driver for this card is from 2013 :-/ |
| 14:14.18 | Agiofws | ok |
| 14:14.39 | Agiofws | installed nvidia detect do i run it in gui or kill X and then? |
| 14:14.51 | Brigo | Agiofws, you can try nvidia-legacy, of course, but for too old cards nouveau is the best solution. |
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| 14:15.33 | darxmurf | Agiofws: it's an AGP card ?? |
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| 14:15.46 | Agiofws | do i run nvidia in an non XZ enviroment |
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| 14:16.03 | Agiofws | darxmurf, yes i think so its not pciE |
| 14:16.05 | darxmurf | you can run the nvidia-detect from a terminal in X |
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| 14:16.10 | Agiofws | ok |
| 14:16.17 | gf15 | Hey guys setting up PXE boot anyone knows where I can find pxelinux bootloader to set up a multi distro boot menu? |
| 14:16.18 | darxmurf | Man, AGP died 10 years ago... |
| 14:16.40 | Agiofws | Detected NVIDIA GPUs: |
| 14:16.40 | Agiofws | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV36 [GeForce FX 5700LE] [10de:0343] (rev a1) |
| 14:16.40 | Agiofws | Uh oh. Your card is only supported by the 173.14 legacy drivers series, which is not in any current Debian suite. |
| 14:16.56 | Agiofws | what next? |
| 14:16.57 | darxmurf | forget this old crap and change that with something else |
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| 14:17.07 | Agiofws | lol |
| 14:17.11 | darxmurf | no, seriously |
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| 14:17.27 | darxmurf | you will waste your time trying to install this |
| 14:17.31 | Agiofws | ok |
| 14:17.42 | Agiofws | i don't know if i have a newer card though |
| 14:17.43 | darxmurf | Eventually replace it with an old Matrox or intel card |
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| 14:18.03 | darxmurf | what do you want to do with this machine ? |
| 14:18.27 | darxmurf | and with a card like this I suppose the processor is antique too ? :-) |
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| 14:21.24 | darxmurf | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_FX_series |
| 14:21.29 | darxmurf | release date 2003 :D |
| 14:21.43 | darxmurf | I'm pretty sure it was good at this time ... |
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| 14:27.51 | Agiofws | darxmurf, ok i found a geforce E2MX 400 will that do i think though its an older card |
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| 14:28.39 | grondilu | anyone using privoxy here? I'd like help. |
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| 14:31.57 | ntz | hello |
| 14:32.09 | ntz | I have some theoretical question regarding debian |
| 14:32.52 | abrotman | Just ask |
| 14:33.06 | Agiofws | darxmurf, this card http://www.nvidia.com/page/geforce2mx.html is older than the 5700LE right ? |
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| 14:33.09 | ntz | Does selinux work reasonably in deb ? I just hand over some servers with debian and thinking about reinstalling them to rhel/centos because I never played with selinux in deb |
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| 14:33.27 | abrotman | selinux shold work the same with Debian |
| 14:33.43 | darxmurf | Agiofws: are you living in the past ? Oo |
| 14:33.45 | abrotman | ntz: wiki.debian.org/SELinux |
| 14:33.46 | ntz | ok, thanks .... so I'll try it |
| 14:33.49 | Agiofws | lol |
| 14:33.52 | darxmurf | What kind of machine are you using ?! |
| 14:33.52 | ntz | abrotman: thanks !!! |
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| 14:34.15 | Agiofws | model name: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz |
| 14:34.18 | shurnormal | I have also a Wheezy box with a 5700something. |
| 14:34.20 | abrotman | dpkg: tell ntz about selinux |
| 14:34.29 | shurnormal | KDE does not run, but dwm works like a charm. |
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| 14:34.44 | Agiofws | shurnormal, yeah i decided to upgrade to jessie :P |
| 14:34.59 | darxmurf | Mother of god |
| 14:35.12 | darxmurf | I would not even touch this machine with a wood stick |
| 14:35.44 | Agiofws | abrotman, what are the possibilities of installing this https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx in jessie i mean would it be possible? |
| 14:36.19 | darxmurf | Do you know, you can buy any cheap newer machine on the market it will be 100x faster than the actual one and save 50% of electricity |
| 14:36.39 | darxmurf | the Geforce MX400 is from 2000 man ! |
| 14:36.43 | darxmurf | 15 years old |
| 14:36.55 | Agiofws | well its was one i manged to find |
| 14:36.57 | darxmurf | I'm sorry but I have no time to waste with that kind of stuff |
| 14:37.04 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 14:37.11 | darxmurf | keep wheezy or even sarge on your system :D |
| 14:37.48 | darxmurf | after a while there is no logical reasons to fight with super old hardware and new operating systems |
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| 14:38.06 | darxmurf | Sorry mate but I think you will waste your time :) |
| 14:38.17 | Agiofws | i have a new card but its pciE ffs |
| 14:38.48 | Agiofws | can i install https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/nvidia-glx-legacy-173xx in jessie ? |
| 14:38.57 | darxmurf | I don't know |
| 14:38.58 | darxmurf | try |
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| 14:40.17 | darxmurf | Agiofws: why are you fighting with this old machine ? |
| 14:40.20 | Agiofws | install a wheezy package on jessie is it possible? |
| 14:40.40 | darxmurf | it's a dpkg you can try, it will probably ask for dependencies |
| 14:40.52 | darxmurf | you will have to download the depedencies and try to install them too |
| 14:41.02 | Agiofws | its the only one i have ftb... and installing the right driver gives me fast DE environment |
| 14:41.04 | darxmurf | you have 1 chance on 2 to mess up your system |
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| 14:41.16 | abrotman | Agiofws: I don't support nVidia hardware, the company barely supports OSS |
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| 14:41.35 | darxmurf | abrotman: this is not the question :-) |
| 14:41.43 | abrotman | not from you, it was from him |
| 14:41.47 | Agiofws | its not nvidia binaries but debians packages |
| 14:41.56 | darxmurf | the question is : why to fight with a 15 years old machine :D |
| 14:42.12 | aypea[1] | Agiofws: it might work. if not, perhaps you have better luck recompiling the src "package" and making a deb for jessie. |
| 14:42.17 | darxmurf | I'm going back to work |
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| 14:42.25 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Agiofws about nvida |
| 14:42.29 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Agiofws about nvidia |
| 14:42.41 | aypea[1] | Agiofws: the other other option is to forgo the debs and roll from tarball directly. |
| 14:43.05 | Agiofws | how can i do this? |
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| 14:43.14 | abrotman | you'd ask #nvidia if you don't want to use Debian packages |
| 14:43.19 | Agiofws | download the deb and its deps |
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| 14:43.53 | Agiofws | i do want to use debian packages tahts why i have not installed nvidias binaries |
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| 14:43.59 | darxmurf | abrotman: the card is to old for debian packages |
| 14:44.10 | darxmurf | man it's an AGP card from 2000 |
| 14:44.11 | darxmurf | :D |
| 14:44.20 | abrotman | get an old Radeon .. better OSS support |
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| 14:44.39 | darxmurf | Thanks god debian guys are kicking out some old drivers after a while :) |
| 14:44.55 | darxmurf | Except the HP LaserJet 4P \o/ |
| 14:44.58 | aypea[1] | from 2000. about the best card to get back then was matrox g200 |
| 14:45.01 | darxmurf | the last survivor from the past :D |
| 14:45.24 | aypea[1] | now ati or, if new mb, intel. |
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| 14:45.42 | Agiofws | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60555/debian-is-it-possible-safe-to-install-packages-from-an-older-version-of-the-rep |
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| 14:46.54 | dfacto | i have looked around, but can't figure out the most appropriate way to configure a debian box (i have lots of them) to be able to send out notification e-mails using an app like Mandril or AmazonSES. Is setting up exim4 enough? |
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| 14:47.41 | jhutchins | dfacto: Yes, but do read the docs. |
| 14:48.18 | dfacto | jhutchins for sure, just wanted to confirm so I can focus my reading on the right topic |
| 14:49.11 | Doyle | Does anyone recognize what this monitoring software is? http://picpaste.com/MrRobotMonitoring.png I think there's a bit of the name in the top corner, but not having any luck googling "ulles"... |
| 14:49.33 | Doyle | It's from the server room scene in Mr Robot. |
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| 14:52.43 | Agiofws | i'll just install xfce4 maybe it does a better job than gnome flash back |
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| 14:55.01 | Brigo | Agiofws, i think so, |
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| 14:57.23 | Elirips | Hello. If I change something in /etc/logrotate.d/ do I need to restart anything to apply the changes? |
| 14:57.39 | LikeVinyl | is away: a cocinar! |
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| 15:02.12 | Brigo | Elirips, no, it works from cron. |
| 15:02.49 | lorddef | Hi all, wondering if anyone can help me with an old sysv lsb init script that's playing up under systemd? |
| 15:03.17 | Elirips | Brigo: thx |
| 15:03.17 | Brigo | lorddef, tell us the problem. |
| 15:03.23 | Brigo | Elirips, np :) |
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| 15:04.04 | lorddef | the script returns exit status 0, and actually starts the service, but systemctl status says: |
| 15:04.05 | lorddef | systemd[1]: Failed to start LSB: Start pgpool_rw daemon at boot time. |
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| 15:04.48 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Lirion about away |
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| 15:05.37 | lorddef | actually, here's the full output from systemctl status: |
| 15:05.38 | lorddef | # systemctl status pgpool_rw.service |
| 15:05.38 | lorddef | â pgpool_rw.service - LSB: Start pgpool_rw daemon at boot time |
| 15:05.38 | lorddef | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.38 | lorddef | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.38 | lorddef | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:05.38 | lorddef | Jun 04 15:50:38 Way5-bouncer1 pgpool_rw[27338]: Starting pgpool_rw service: OK |
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| 15:07.55 | lorddef | Looks like I got kicked off for flooding there, apologies, I'm new |
| 15:08.31 | lorddef | I pasted here: http://paste.debian.net/201000/ |
| 15:09.04 | lorddef | what does "failed (Result: resources)" mean? |
| 15:10.13 | centrx | lorddef, I would run that by #postgresql (channel focused on PG) |
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| 15:10.47 | lorddef | centrix, actually the issue is nothing to do with pg |
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| 15:11.12 | lorddef | pgpool starts fine, its the weird behaviour of the lsb init script under systemd I'm asking about |
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| 15:11.36 | lorddef | we must have some systemd gurus here? |
| 15:11.40 | centrx | yeah I don't know anything about it, still using sysvinit, sorry |
| 15:12.21 | lorddef | so far my experience of systemd is that it's a pile of $#!te |
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| 15:13.15 | centrx | you're very good with choosing special characters |
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| 15:13.50 | lorddef | haha, but that doesn't help me with this issue though does it |
| 15:13.56 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 15:14.18 | Agiofws | installed xfce4 and its seems better than gnome flashback |
| 15:14.28 | Agiofws | i think this is the best solution |
| 15:15.05 | Brigo | lorddef, it could be a lack of resurces, a filesystem not yet mounted, for example. |
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| 15:15.43 | lorddef | That's what I thought, but all the resources required are there, and the process actually starts fine, and the script returns 0 |
| 15:16.45 | darxmurf | somebody knows GridFTP ? |
| 15:17.16 | Brigo | lorddef, it starts fine whe the systemd had ended booting, may be not at booting. |
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| 15:18.31 | lorddef | Could you elaborate on that Brigo? |
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| 15:19.03 | lorddef | At the moment I'm just trying to start it now, after boot, and it's saying it failed to start even though it has |
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| 15:19.38 | dokma | I'm migrating my system to 64bit. I've installed a 64bit kernel and rebooted but 64 bit kernel to choose from. So I booted the 32bit one and ran update-grub2. It reports to have found a 64bit kernel so I reboot. No 64bit kernel to choose from in GRUB menu. Any other tricks needed? |
| 15:19.53 | Brigo | lorddef, ok, the some environtment problem? |
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| 15:20.10 | Brigo | lorddef, does it use /etc/default/ config files? |
| 15:20.38 | darxmurf | dokma: migrating from 32 to 64 is tricky |
| 15:20.59 | dokma | darxmurf, sure is. but installing a 64 bit kernel shouldn't be... |
| 15:21.02 | lorddef | no, the one and only config file is in /usr/local/etc/ |
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| 15:23.16 | Burps | Hi. I juste migrated to Jessie, and have troubles with systemd and openvpn : I have bout 10 X.conf files in /etc/openvpn/, but had only 2 of them autostarted with wheezy in /etc/default/openvpn : how can I have the same behaviour with systemd ? |
| 15:23.36 | Burps | I tried to enable the openvpn@vpn1.service, but it enabled all of them |
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| 15:25.25 | Brigo | lorddef, have to go now, but you can try to paste the init script and the generated systemd unit and ask in #debian-systemd in oftc network. |
| 15:26.00 | Brigo | lorddef, you can to incress debug level too. |
| 15:26.35 | dokma | This is an 11 year old installation so it might be that some old files are choking grub. I'll purge and reinstall GRUB2... |
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| 15:29.49 | lorddef | Brigo, yeah how do I do that? I thought I could do it in /etc/systemd/system.conf but it seems to make no difference, even after a systemctl daemon-reload |
| 15:31.05 | lorddef | The lack of documentation for systemd is really doing my nut in too |
| 15:31.12 | telmac | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:31.18 | telmac | yeah well. |
| 15:31.22 | lorddef | Really now what I need right now |
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| 15:32.37 | Brigo | lorddef, did you check journalctl? |
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| 15:34.46 | Brigo | lorddef, If some systemd service misbehaves and you want to get more information about what is going on, set the SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL environment variable to debug. For example, to run the systemd-networkd daemon in debug mode: |
| 15:35.12 | Brigo | for example: systemctl stop systemd-networkd && SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug /lib/systemd/systemd-networkd |
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| 15:36.47 | Brigo | lorddef, more here: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd#Diagnosing_problems_with_a_specific_service |
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| 15:38.11 | lorddef | Well ther is no file in /lib/systemd as it's an lsb init script, but "systemctl start pgpool_rw && SYSTEMD_LOG_LEVEL=debug" yealds no more output |
| 15:39.17 | petn-randall | lorddef: The second part will do nothing. |
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| 15:39.44 | lorddef | Yeah, well I tried it in reverse, setting the env var first |
| 15:39.47 | petn-randall | lorddef: Setting environment variables only affect any processes spawned after that. Since you're not spawning any process, it'll affect nothing. |
| 15:39.48 | lorddef | still no cigar |
| 15:40.15 | dokma | Fascinating. After aptitude purge everything grub related, mv /boot/grub /boot/grub-old and reinstall it detects all my kernels again. But on boot the 64bit version is not offered... |
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| 15:41.27 | dokma | I do have a menuentry for amd64 kernel in grub.cfg |
| 15:41.43 | dokma | it just does not appear in GRUB2 menu during boot... |
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| 15:43.00 | dnsk_ | Can anyone fix the Youtube issue in Iceweasel for me please? |
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| 15:50.41 | centrx | dnsk_, Does anyone know what you are talking about? |
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| 15:51.32 | dnsk_ | centrx, wait I would produce photographic evidence |
| 15:52.17 | centrx | okay I'll call the Judge and let him know you're ready |
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| 15:53.02 | edoardo | Hello! I have a bay trail debian tablet i'd like to install debian on |
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| 15:53.23 | edoardo | The install works perfectly, grub gets installed and it boots |
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| 15:53.54 | dnsk_ | centrx, https://lut.im/bX5a3vwr/HldudloA <-- look at this, this is what youtube does when I replay a video |
| 15:53.55 | edoardo | However, it fails booting because some drivers are missing. How can i tell debian to install certain packages on the install i'm doing? |
| 15:54.07 | dnsk_ | it is distorted and fuzzy and pixelated |
| 15:54.15 | centrx | dnsk_, and it works in chromium? |
| 15:54.16 | edoardo | eg. i'd like to install linux-firmware-nonfree to see if it's resolved |
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| 15:54.39 | dnsk_ | centrx, I don't use chromium I am talking about iceweasel |
| 15:54.44 | dnsk_ | centrx, Is it same for you? |
| 15:55.15 | centrx | dnsk_, I don't use iceweasel, but your question made it sound like it was a problem with iceweasel. Maybe it is a problem with your graphics card, or Flash installation. Try the HTML5 version of Youtube? |
| 15:55.19 | dnsk_ | I have Debian's Default version with just the main repo |
| 15:55.34 | dnsk_ | centrx, but it worked well with Windows/Ubuntu |
| 15:55.39 | dnsk_ | its Intel Graphics |
| 15:55.49 | edoardo | dnsk_: try enabling hw acceleration |
| 15:56.10 | dnsk_ | centrx, Youtube is HTML5 by default now else it won't play at all since I have only Main repo remember? |
| 15:56.15 | dnsk_ | edoardo, how? |
| 15:56.16 | edoardo | dnsk_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/491750/force-enable-hardware-acceleration-in-firefox |
| 15:56.28 | dnsk_ | ok I would try it right now |
| 15:56.37 | edoardo | yeah, it solved me a lot of problems |
| 15:56.39 | centrx | I see cool |
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| 15:58.36 | dnsk_ | edoardo, mine says 0/2 instead of 0/1 |
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| 16:00.11 | dnsk_ | edoardo, you sure about it? should I enable it? |
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| 16:03.28 | dokma | Even funnier. I manually replaced the 32 bit kernel with 64 bit one in the grub boot menu and now I managed to boot 64 bit kernel... |
| 16:03.42 | dokma | But it still did not offer me to boot into a 64 bit kernel... |
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| 16:03.47 | dokma | Can't understand why... |
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| 16:04.02 | edoardo | dnsk_: did you solve it? |
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| 16:04.50 | kaste | Hello, I have accidentally deconfigured my phpmyadmin. I ran dpkg-reconfigure and decided against it, ctrl-c'd but that only served to write the config with empty values (very intuitive btw). |
| 16:05.06 | kaste | If I now rerun it and select reconfigure database what exactly does that do? |
| 16:05.18 | dnsk_ | edoardo, I did not do what you told me too because I might try a Firefox ESR version first |
| 16:05.18 | kaste | will this also change the passwords for the mysql? |
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| 16:06.40 | dnsk_ | edoardo, just downloading it, if that work then something is wrong with Iceweasel and we need to fix it |
| 16:06.55 | edoardo | ok! |
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| 16:07.18 | Gachr | Hi guys, how does Cinnamon work on Debian? I'm concerned since it doesn't work well on Arch. |
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| 16:08.28 | dnsk_ | edoardo, where am I suppose to report it if it works? |
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| 16:09.12 | edoardo | dnsk_: here :) |
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| 16:09.28 | edoardo | Gachr: latest time i checked, was working perfectly |
| 16:09.35 | edoardo | i don't like it, though |
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| 16:11.49 | dnsk_ | edoardo, ok, thanks I am done downloading it but the problem is I am watching this movie right now and I don't want to close the browser right now so I have to wait like 1 hour :P |
| 16:11.51 | dnsk_ | lol |
| 16:12.06 | dnsk_ | it says firefox already running |
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| 16:12.34 | edoardo | dnsk_: iceweasel = firefox |
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| 16:14.41 | Jaelae | hmm |
| 16:14.58 | dnsk_ | edoardo, I know can I open both? |
| 16:15.07 | Jaelae | is debian the only distro that prompts for proxy details during install? |
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| 16:27.18 | william__ | I am trying to connect a new screen to my computer but it wont show up as disconnected |
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| 16:31.21 | Jaelae | im not a fan of this hardcoded - insert disc in drive media/cdrom where it looks for a specific disc label |
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| 16:33.29 | Akuw | hi, i am trying to print using lpr |
| 16:33.37 | Akuw | lpstat -tl ---> device for HP_LaserJet_P1005: usb://HP/LaserJet%20P1005?serial=BB03SJ8 |
| 16:33.46 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.57 | Akuw | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.09 | Akuw | why unknown printer ? |
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| 16:34.32 | karlpinc | Akuw: Check http://localhost:631/ |
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| 16:35.18 | Akuw | in cups is ok |
| 16:35.31 | Akuw | but i want to do it using lpr |
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| 16:35.43 | karlpinc | Akuw: Cups can print a test page and everything? |
| 16:35.50 | Akuw | yes |
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| 16:36.41 | edoardo | how can i mount an usb drive while installing debian? |
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| 16:37.33 | Akuw | edoardo: is for firmware load? |
| 16:37.52 | edoardo | Akuw: yes |
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| 16:38.16 | edoardo | but the installer doesn't get it, but i can see it from busybox and dmesg |
| 16:38.16 | karlpinc | Akuw: What does lpstat -a say? |
| 16:38.17 | Akuw | when i install i just put the pendrive and debian use it |
| 16:38.32 | Akuw | HP_LaserJet_P1005 accepting requests since Thu 04 Jun 2015 11:50:20 AM VET |
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| 16:38.40 | edoardo | lpstat - not found |
| 16:38.50 | edoardo | i'm in busybox |
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| 16:40.25 | edoardo | "mounting /dev/sda1 on /cdrom failed - no such file or directory" |
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| 16:43.29 | grondilu | anybody has problems with twitch.tv and privoxy? |
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| 16:49.31 | Akuw | what package has lpstat ? |
| 16:50.14 | karlpinc | Akuw: I've got it in cups-client on wheezy. |
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| 17:02.28 | DammitJim | how can someone be telling me that EST is always -5 whereas EDT is -5 in winter and -4 in summer |
| 17:02.38 | DammitJim | but CDT is always -5? |
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| 17:05.55 | centrx | DammitJim, Doesn't sound right, maybe it's in Indiana or something? |
| 17:07.18 | DammitJim | I don't know |
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| 17:08.11 | DammitJim | my manager is telling me that CST and PST behave the same and EST and MST behave the same |
| 17:08.18 | DammitJim | but EST and CST don't behave the same |
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| 17:17.42 | dnsk_ | edoardo_, it works fine in Firefox 31 ESR |
| 17:17.43 | fred1807 | is it okay to go noatime in raspbian? |
| 17:17.49 | dnsk_ | Without any fixes at all |
| 17:18.36 | fred1807 | how to disable all and every log writing? |
| 17:18.52 | karlpinc | fred1807: You'd probably need to ask the raspbian people. |
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| 17:22.56 | dnsk_ | guys why is I found the issue, Firefox 31 ESR is using webm but Iceweasel 31 is using mp4 with the same video |
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| 17:29.39 | fennesz | Hello! What software would you recommend for taking notes in debian? |
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| 17:31.12 | wizzy__ | Hi. I'm wondering if there is a way to throttle the write speed of the kernel dirty cache? |
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| 17:34.24 | jelly | wizzy__: not really, what's the goal? |
| 17:35.06 | dnsk_ | jelly, I found the issue, Firefox 31 ESR is using webm but Iceweasel 31 is using mp4 with the same video |
| 17:35.24 | dnsk_ | hence the distortion and fuzzy video when you re-play it |
| 17:35.30 | dnsk_ | Can you fix it? |
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| 17:36.50 | wizzy__ | jelly: I'd like to have the writeback cache to slowly write out the cache content (until it gets filled of course), to avoid large write burts |
| 17:36.56 | edoardo_ | never go full retard |
| 17:37.03 | SuperTramp83 | fennesz - I use the "notes" application, which is installed by default in Xfce. It works great. |
| 17:37.11 | edoardo_ | never do "ifdown eth0" on dedicated servers |
| 17:37.17 | edoardo_ | i did |
| 17:37.23 | petn-randall | pats edoardo_ on the back. |
| 17:37.34 | petn-randall | edoardo_: Guess a trip to the datacentre it is? |
| 17:37.44 | edoardo_ | i'll just call |
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| 17:38.06 | edoardo_ | hope they can reboot it |
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| 17:38.25 | jelly | wizzy__: why? |
| 17:38.25 | wizzy__ | Ah i remember those days with trips to the DC. Now it's all IPMI/ILO/iDRAC |
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| 17:39.02 | edoardo_ | display-manager.service: Cannot add dependency job, ignoring: Unit display-manager.service failed to load: No such file or directory |
| 17:39.06 | edoardo_ | any hints? |
| 17:39.15 | jelly | wizzy__: what happens at present, what's the problem with kernel flushing it all down as fast as it can? |
| 17:39.24 | wizzy__ | jelly: Let's say we have a 2G write cache, once it starts flushing at full speed the disks gets fully loaded. That will cause the system to "lock down" while writing, and severely hurt read performance |
| 17:39.28 | dnsk_ | edoardo_, http://askubuntu.com/questions/491750/force-enable-hardware-acceleration-in-firefox - The solution it shows is not even applied in Firefox ESR but it just works but Iceweasel don't so it is not the issue; it is some build issue with Iceweasel |
| 17:39.59 | jelly | wizzy__: lower the size of write cache then. How much RAM do you have? |
| 17:40.00 | SuperTramp83 | fennesz - xfce4-notes is the package, but that is for..XFCE! Which DE do u use? |
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| 17:40.20 | jelly | wizzy__: (not write cache, dirty buffers cache) |
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| 17:41.11 | wizzy__ | jelly: The machine has 128GB. But lowering the dirty cache kinda defeats the purpose of the cache in the first place |
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| 17:41.26 | dnsk_ | are backports for Debian out? |
| 17:41.59 | jelly | wizzy__: it doesn't defeat the purpose at all... if your backend is too slow, it's too slow now and it's going to be too slow 30 seconds from now too |
| 17:42.05 | Nik05 | dnsk_ backports of what? |
| 17:42.28 | dnsk_ | Nik05, the repo where you add backports and then installed more recent apps? |
| 17:42.40 | dnsk_ | I want to pick the most recent Iceweasel |
| 17:42.49 | jelly | wizzy__: sysctl -w vm.dirty_background_ratio=1 will start writing when 1% of RAM is used... so 1.28GB |
| 17:43.03 | dnsk_ | this one has this strange youtube error but no one seems to notice since more of them use Chromium I guess |
| 17:43.34 | hypn0 | http://mozilla.debian.net/ you could try this |
| 17:43.48 | jelly | dnsk_: out where?? |
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| 17:44.06 | dnsk_ | hypn0, ah ok |
| 17:44.14 | dnsk_ | jelly, the error? |
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| 17:44.25 | imsomeoneelse | does anyone had any problems installing jessie with RAID 1 configuration with ext4 partition? |
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| 17:44.50 | SuperTramp83 | youtube error whaat? |
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| 17:45.01 | dnsk_ | jelly, https://lut.im/bX5a3vwr/HldudloA |
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| 17:46.27 | jelly | dnsk_: ah, ugly |
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| 17:46.38 | croddy | that's a pretty psychedelic look |
| 17:46.46 | ghormoon | Hi, can i force update-initramfs to include cryptsetup? |
| 17:46.51 | jelly | dnsk_: does that happen even with mozilla's own firefox build of same version? |
| 17:47.05 | wizzy__ | jelly: i'm aware of how it functions, and yes it will defeat the purpose. Let's say we have an incoming file of 2GB that needs to be written, then we put it straight in the cache which (ideally) would write the data slowly to the disks, leaving I/O available for read operations. Typical 10/90 write/read workload would benefit quite a lot from such feature. |
| 17:47.20 | dnsk_ | jelly, but the same thing don't happen with Firefox ESR 31, I have found the error Iceweasel is playing it in mp4 even though youtube is HTML5 by default now but Firefox ESR is running it in webm only so no bug there |
| 17:47.32 | dnsk_ | I am using Debian Jessie with Main repo so no flash for me |
| 17:47.34 | imsomeoneelse | let me change my question: Is BTRFS in Jessie stable enough to use on production? |
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| 17:48.01 | dnsk_ | changing the youtube.com to HTML5 mode won't change anythign I have tried it |
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| 17:48.37 | SuperTramp83 | dnsk_ : http://smtube.sourceforge.net/ |
| 17:48.48 | jelly | wizzy__: then you'll need to make that feature in the kernel or hire a developer to do it, I'm afraid |
| 17:48.58 | dnsk_ | SuperTramp83, I know I know but I want it to work right in the browser itself |
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| 17:49.24 | SuperTramp83 | you like worse performance? |
| 17:49.27 | dnsk_ | SuperTramp83, it is a non-free service anyway so it don't matter if we use a Free Player or not also smtube got issues too |
| 17:49.43 | dnsk_ | SuperTramp83, but It works fine in Abrowser and Firefox ESR 31 |
| 17:49.49 | SuperTramp83 | what issues? |
| 17:49.51 | dnsk_ | so the problem is Iceweasel 31 |
| 17:49.51 | jelly | imsomeoneelse: is btrfs stable at all? |
| 17:49.54 | dnsk_ | ahhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 17:50.30 | SuperTramp83 | smtube issues? what issues? |
| 17:50.34 | dnsk_ | SuperTramp83, I get Fuzzy and distorted video when I replay a Youtube video also Iceweasel is playing mp4 videos even in HTML5 player |
| 17:50.59 | imsomeoneelse | jelly: seems like that depends on who you ask, but for the life of me I cannot install Jessie on a RAID 1 array with ext3 or ext4, it keeps crashing on partition creation, whereas it happily installs with BTRFS on the same exact hardware |
| 17:51.05 | dnsk_ | SuperTramp83, it sucks totally most of them would freeze and won't work so I don't use it at all |
| 17:51.21 | dnsk_ | I have not tried in on Debian jessie though |
| 17:51.23 | SuperTramp83 | Did you compile the latest tar? |
| 17:51.33 | jelly | dnsk_: there's been a similar report a couple weeks back, traced down to iceweasel built with gstreamer 1.0 while mozilla's firefox still uses 0.10 |
| 17:51.35 | dnsk_ | no I did not compile it, why should I? |
| 17:51.49 | dnsk_ | jelly, would there be a fix soon? |
| 17:51.56 | dnsk_ | Could you please link the report? |
| 17:52.19 | SuperTramp83 | compile the latest tar. Or if you don't like building by yourself download the latest deb |
| 17:52.24 | jelly | dnsk_: in jessie? maybe but not likely -- this is not a serious or security bug |
| 17:52.28 | dnsk_ | a lot of people from #firefox pointed out to this gstreamer 0.10 vs 1.0 thing as well in Debian |
| 17:52.50 | dnsk_ | jelly, cmon? so they won't even fix it ever in Jessie? |
| 17:52.53 | jelly | dnsk_: I just remember a user with similar screenshot here from irc |
| 17:53.08 | dnsk_ | jelly, lol it was me probably :P |
| 17:53.22 | jelly | dnsk_: did you change nickname? :-) |
| 17:53.25 | hypn0 | im playing same vid fine in iceweasel 31 so far with flash :-) |
| 17:53.28 | dnsk_ | no? |
| 17:53.35 | jelly | then it probably wasn't you |
| 17:53.54 | dnsk_ | but why won't they fix it? makes me wana quit Jessie :/ |
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| 17:54.16 | william__ | how do i set up dual monitors with hdmi? |
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| 17:55.07 | veek | how do i downgrade a pkg using apt: apt-get install -t wheezy ntfs-3g=1:2012 doesn't work and yet from this thread http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/165057/ntfs-3g-input-output-error the guy downgraded to wheezy-ntfs-3g |
| 17:55.08 | jelly | dnsk_: "it" needs to be reported in debian's but tracking system first. Check the bugs for iceweasel package. |
| 17:55.19 | jelly | bug* tracking |
| 17:55.23 | dnsk_ | hypn0,everything plays fine for me too; its just when I replay it ; the shit happens |
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| 17:55.32 | wizzy__ | Just for reference, i believe bcache offers the feature that i need. :-) |
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| 17:57.30 | veek | nm figured it |
| 17:57.49 | hypn0 | i replayed too seems fine with flash, just a html5 bug :-/ |
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| 17:59.29 | dnsk_ | hypn0, ya.. but it really sucks I don't want this since it ain't even there in Firefox, Iceweasel is suppose to improve it and not mess it up for us |
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| 18:00.20 | erin1983684 | hey fellow geeks |
| 18:00.26 | jelly | dnsk_: it's just a bug. Since it doesn't seem to be listed on bugs.debian.org/iceweasel, first step is to report it |
| 18:00.30 | hypn0 | you should try the beta/aurora, might already be fixed :-/ |
| 18:00.36 | Nik05 | dnsk_ yes there are backports |
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| 18:00.44 | veek | erin1983684, die! die! dive! |
| 18:01.41 | erin1983684 | lol |
| 18:01.51 | erin1983684 | how do you guys keep track of your groceries? |
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| 18:02.12 | erin1983684 | i tried using trello , but its too complicated for what i need, |
| 18:02.27 | imsomeoneelse | erin1983684, I use "out of milk" app on Android |
| 18:02.35 | erin1983684 | checking it out. |
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| 18:02.44 | hypn0 | i use my brain still :-D |
| 18:03.19 | erin1983684 | lol thats so old school, |
| 18:03.31 | jadne | im trying to figure out how to produce a debian package that has just a single symlink - i don't need to build anything. all the docs for building debian packages seem to assume that you are building and distributing source |
| 18:03.43 | veek | i've added a line to sysctl.conf and started the service using systemd systemctl enable systemd-sysctl.service and yet that line is not being processed and i have to manually add it |
| 18:03.44 | jadne | anyone have a guide handy that might be more useful? |
| 18:03.50 | veek | what am i doing wrong |
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| 18:04.16 | dnsk_ | jelly, ok I would ; hypn0 ya but we are using ESR version so I might be fixed in 38 version ; Nik05 ya |
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| 18:05.14 | jelly | veek: does putting it in /etc/sysctl.d/local.conf work any different? |
| 18:05.27 | veek | ah lemme check thanks jelly |
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| 18:06.49 | veek | Oo bug i think can you check.. my system has local.conf with swapiness=1 which i never added |
| 18:07.28 | veek | anyway that was the problem since it's more specific it was prolly overriding my own line |
| 18:07.49 | jelly | that file isn't managed by any package, someone put it there |
| 18:08.34 | veek | jelly it's impossible that i could have.. darn it's edited or the mod time might have clued me in |
| 18:08.52 | veek | oh well thanks :) it'll work now |
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| 18:24.08 | karlpinc | I'm using the "mon" package to get email alerts on a syslog regexp. I can run local-syslog.monitor -c foo -d and I get the right output printed. But the mon server is just not emailing me. There's nothing in the mail logs. My "period" is "dt {Sun-Sat}". I must be missing something but I can't tell what. |
| 18:24.10 | jadne | cd dev/projects |
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| 18:24.51 | karlpinc | Sorry, "wd {Sun-Sat}" |
| 18:25.21 | karlpinc | (on wheezy) |
| 18:26.31 | ghormoon | where do i need to set numlock on to have it in luks prompt? All I've found is way too late (bashrc, x, ...) but i remember tthere was some trivial way in debian, just can't find it now |
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| 18:27.36 | stevejobsinhell | hi |
| 18:27.42 | stevejobsinhell | Debian is at version 8. Correct> |
| 18:27.51 | ghormoon | Yup |
| 18:27.59 | stevejobsinhell | thankx |
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| 18:28.13 | karlpinc | ghormoon: Kernel command line? Maybe in /etc/default/initramfs-tools or dropbear or cryptsetup? Does the /usr/share/doc/cryptsetup/* say anything? |
| 18:28.19 | erin1983684 | thanks guys outofmilk works great |
| 18:29.03 | ghormoon | I remember setting LEDS=+num somewhere, but can't google up where :) |
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| 18:32.35 | karlpinc | ghormoon: /etc/kbd/config perhaps. Although that's with kbd, not console-tools and I don't know which is used. |
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| 18:33.40 | ghormoon | Ah, i've missed it cause I've been trying /etc/kdb/... :))) |
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| 18:34.21 | gg | how do I update to jessie and what do I gain from whezy? |
| 18:34.48 | karlpinc | !wheezy->jessie |
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| 18:35.51 | karlpinc | gg: You upgrade by following the release notes found at debian.org. |
| 18:36.05 | gg | thx |
| 18:36.32 | hypn0 | gain? what do you want to gain? |
| 18:36.54 | jadne | ...new versions of packages? |
| 18:36.58 | karlpinc | gg: Newer stuff. Eventually wheezy won't get security updates. There is an expermential long-term support but I don't know that's all packages. Sooner or later you'll want to upgrade. |
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| 18:38.02 | karlpinc | (I wonder why dpkg isn't listening to !?) |
| 18:38.22 | gg | for me that only uses debian for simple servers like streaming media server, torrent box and so on, is it worth it? |
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| 18:39.34 | trwyth | well, the architectural changes that come with systemd are big. While I won't debate their merits here, if you run jessie casually then you'll tend to become more familiar with linuces of the future. |
| 18:40.11 | karlpinc | gg: The day will come when you have no choice. May as well do it now while everybody else is and things are fresh. |
| 18:40.19 | gg | is bash and the included bash commands changed significantly (i know i can read the rel notes - i prefer to ask a person) |
| 18:40.35 | jadne | pets dpkg |
| 18:40.47 | karlpinc | no |
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| 18:42.56 | tortib | hey everyone |
| 18:43.09 | tortib | does the current cifs-utils for wheezy work with windows azure cifs shares? |
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| 18:46.09 | linuxthefish | hi, what kernel does the debian 8 download have? |
| 18:46.10 | ag4ve | tortib: no personal use, but iirc was told it did |
| 18:46.22 | tortib | ag4ve, it appears that i'm using 5.5 and I need 6.0 |
| 18:46.26 | tortib | of cifs-utils |
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| 18:46.55 | tortib | 6.0 is in testing so am I able to just add the source to the list and then apt-get install that one package from testing? |
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| 18:47.04 | Nik05 | linuxthefish 3.16 |
| 18:47.10 | linuxthefish | thanks! |
| 18:47.19 | linuxthefish | is there any way to change to above 4.0? |
| 18:47.37 | Nik05 | linuxthefish sid doesnt even have above 4.0 |
| 18:48.07 | ag4ve | tortib: i think you'll need to pin it (see apt-cache policy |
| 18:48.23 | tortib | ag4ve, I have never pinned anything before |
| 18:48.29 | ag4ve | and i don't really use pinning, so... |
| 18:48.37 | linuxthefish | Nik05 oh ok can i use this, or make a usb image with this? |
| 18:48.55 | ag4ve | yeah, why i just said what to read up on and can't say exactly how |
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| 18:49.05 | Nik05 | linuxthefish use what? |
| 18:49.31 | ag4ve | normally if you add sources that have newer packages, you'll end up with a system w/ those newer packages |
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| 18:49.46 | Nik05 | linuxthefish why do you need a higher kernel version? |
| 18:50.01 | ag4ve | if that works, do it (it's easier) - otherwise, see pinning |
| 18:50.21 | tortib | ag4ve, if I use the testing repo in my sources.list it tries to update everything on the install to the testing branch |
| 18:50.24 | tortib | which isn't a good idea... |
| 18:50.32 | tortib | I just need that one package to be updated |
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| 18:50.42 | Nik05 | ag4ve depends what the settings of the repository is |
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| 18:50.58 | ag4ve | "settings of the repo" - really? |
| 18:51.09 | Nik05 | yes they have some default settings |
| 18:51.22 | ag4ve | i had no idea of that... |
| 18:51.24 | Nik05 | if you add experimental it will get a pinning of 100 or something |
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| 18:51.40 | ag4ve | ah |
| 18:51.44 | tortib | ag4ve, ah I see you can set your default release so that doesn't happen cool |
| 18:51.44 | mcordingley | Can somebody please explain the difference between /etc/cron.daily/apt and unattended-upgrades? It looks like they do the same thing, but not quite. |
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| 18:52.40 | Nik05 | ag4ve experimental even gets pinning of 1 |
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| 18:52.42 | ag4ve | tortib: also means you'll be manually updating the package (kinda like you do w/ docker) - dist-upgrade won't grab it for you |
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| 18:53.26 | linuxthefish | Nik05 for https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/5534731/ |
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| 18:55.40 | imsomeoneelse | anyone know any workarounds to the bug #781172 ? Basically Jessie does not boot on RAID 1 if array is degraded (e.g. one disk missing) |
| 18:55.41 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/781172 in base (open): «base: Stock Debian Jessie - can't boot off degraded raid1?»; severity: important; opened: 2015-03-25; last modified: 2015-04-26. |
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| 18:56.06 | Nik05 | linuxthefish sorry i cant help you with that |
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| 19:03.48 | wryfi_ | ok, so i need to install an old version of imagemagick on trusty, and i am working on forward-porting a package from precise. it requires an old version of zlib, which i've installed under /opt. but i can't figure out how to tell the packaging scripts to add the right library path in the right place. |
| 19:04.36 | wryfi_ | i can successfully compile manually: LDDFLAGS="-L/opt/zlib-old/lib" CPPFLAGS='-I/opt/zlib-old/include' ./configure |
| 19:04.53 | wryfi_ | but how i can i get debuild/dpkg-buildpackage to do the same thing? |
| 19:05.11 | Voyager82 | Hi. I don't know if this is the proper channel to ask. I'm currently trying to use my scanner Canon Lide 110 on my machine. I succeeded in making it to work on another computer. Every time I scan a page, I get an image that is totally black. I've read that this was a common problem, but I couldn't find a solution. Can you help me? |
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| 19:11.06 | narcos | Hi all. Any ideas what could be wrong with a debian install that sits with Tux in the top left corner on boot, and never get further? |
| 19:11.20 | ctmjr | wryfi_: wrong channel ask in #ubuntu |
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| 19:14.46 | Nik05 | narcos really a debian install? i have never seen tux on boot in debian |
| 19:15.03 | acz32 | narcos: what version of debian? |
| 19:15.08 | narcos | Nik05, Debian on a BeagleBone Black |
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| 19:17.24 | Nik05 | narcos sorry we cant help you with that, its a distribution based on debian but not supported here. Is there a beaglebonedebian channel? |
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| 19:17.39 | narcos | Nik05, There is, I'll go ask there, thanks :) |
| 19:17.40 | ompaul | emdebian isn't it? |
| 19:17.54 | ompaul | or do I not know what a beaglebone is |
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| 19:18.06 | ompaul | votes for the latter and fails to search the internet |
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| 19:22.25 | Nik05 | narcos or does it really run debian? |
| 19:22.25 | FuZi0N | Anyone have experience using the hardening-wrapper in debian? |
| 19:22.30 | Nik05 | where did you get it from? |
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| 19:23.12 | FuZi0N | the hardening-wrapper? |
| 19:23.16 | narcos | Nik05, http://beagleboard.org/latest-images |
| 19:24.10 | Nik05 | narcos well if those images dont work, its maybe better to ask beagleboard |
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| 19:24.22 | narcos | Nik05, OK will do |
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| 19:26.50 | Jaelae | oops sent this in the wrong OS channel but it is debian - mounting CIFS for a non domain account (windows account) keeps generating error 13 |
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| 19:28.34 | rooot | hi |
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| 19:28.53 | rooot | how can i run a program on root desktop from a non root user? |
| 19:29.11 | greycat | Root should not have a desktop. Ever. |
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| 19:30.43 | rooot | umm mine has, and i have a folder there and i want to open then program installed in that folder, from a standard user |
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| 19:30.47 | rooot | can i achieve that? |
| 19:30.50 | Jaelae | so this command in debian to mount a windows share: mount -t cifs -o username=aspsrv,password=NEL#828paj //199.52.199.205/Shared /mnt/cifs |
| 19:30.58 | Jaelae | any problem with the syntax? or perhaps the # in the password? |
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| 19:32.21 | MondaytoFriday | Is this the wrong sytax for spawning a login prompt over a serial connection via USB? |
| 19:32.22 | MondaytoFriday | T0:2345:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyUSB0 115200 vt100 |
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| 19:46.08 | no_gravity | hello! how do i find out which graphics card i have and if i use the right drivers? |
| 19:46.22 | quodvis | lspci |
| 19:46.55 | greycat | lspci -nn | grep -i vga # usually |
| 19:48.10 | no_gravity | that gives me: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 630] [10de:0f00] (rev a1) |
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| 19:59.25 | DammitJim | is there a way to set my time as CST (not observing DST?) |
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| 20:03.36 | logan0405 | hi |
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| 20:04.31 | logan0405 | I'm on the latest stable release of debian, does anyone know how to close windows when still in overview? my window close bind doesnt work |
| 20:04.37 | jhutchins | !nvidia |
| 20:04.37 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:05.57 | linuxthefish | nvidia non free!! |
| 20:06.01 | hypn0 | do you mean a crashed app logan0405? |
| 20:06.44 | logan0405 | no I just mean a quick way to close windows when I look at all of them in overview |
| 20:07.00 | logan0405 | instead of clicking the big X |
| 20:07.26 | no_gravity | how can i find out which graphics driver i am using and if its the right one? |
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| 20:09.59 | hypn0 | did you see dpkg link? maybe dpkg --list *nvidia* |
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| 20:11.26 | no_gravity | hypn0: that gives me some kind of table |
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| 20:11.45 | hypn0 | ii are the installed packages |
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| 20:12.38 | andril | Hello |
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| 20:14.56 | hypn0 | so you should be able to tell which driver was installed? or if at all |
| 20:15.46 | no_gravity | hypn0: i dont know. it tells me a lot of stuff |
| 20:15.53 | no_gravity | maybe this one: NVIDIA legacy binary driver - version 304.125 |
| 20:16.11 | hypn0 | yep, the 304.125 one |
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| 20:20.00 | no_gravity | is that a good one? |
| 20:20.27 | Krakakanok | https://github.com/tmux/tmux/commit/d2b35e19cdd61d163d26c4babccc1550e72a9623 LOL |
| 20:20.36 | Krakakanok | fuck SF ! |
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| 20:21.09 | no_gravity | interesting: installing that driver doubled the canvas rendering performance in firefox. |
| 20:21.39 | Krakakanok | i m not have nvidia :( |
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| 20:22.15 | drdanmaku | hi, is there some way to regenerate the file /var/libs/dpkg/triggers/File ? my computer shut down during an invocation of apt-get and the file appears to have been corrupted |
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| 20:24.35 | mdim | hi all |
| 20:24.45 | mdim | does anyone have Emacs 24.4.1 installed? |
| 20:25.00 | mdim | I got an impression that an issue I have with it is Debian-specific |
| 20:25.21 | hypn0 | 352.09 seems to be the newest version http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/85057/en-us no_gravity you could insall the bin from nvidia |
| 20:25.22 | mdim | in particular, when I start Emacs, this is what it reports: apply: Wrong type argument: listp, "" |
| 20:26.18 | hypn0 | 346.72 is the stable one, that is beta :-) no_gravity |
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| 20:27.11 | hypn0 | http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/84721/en-us didnt you see the message from dpkg earlier |
| 20:27.11 | ompaul | !nvidia |
| 20:27.12 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:27.43 | hypn0 | yeh that one :-) |
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| 20:28.37 | no_gravity | hypn0: now im confused. am i using the beta or the latest stable? |
| 20:28.44 | no_gravity | i had the nouveau before |
| 20:29.08 | no_gravity | but after installing this 304.125 one, firefox performance doubled. |
| 20:29.42 | wryfi_ | if i have a debian source package, and i want to build just some of its binary packages, is there an easy way to do that without modifying debian/rules? |
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| 20:30.40 | no_gravity | its interesting that the performance doubled because about:support tells me that it does not use the hardware acceleration |
| 20:30.55 | greycat | Maybe one of the underlying libraries does? |
| 20:31.26 | hypn0 | click on the link in dpkg message no_gravity, there is a free version, and a proprietary one you want to install? no_gravity |
| 20:32.15 | hypn0 | 304 is an older version, looks like a couple of yrs old :-/ |
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| 20:34.57 | hypn0 | maybe its the right one for your card though :-) |
| 20:37.00 | no_gravity | greycat: you mean firefox tells debian "draw me this image on top of that image" and then debian uses the gpu to do that? |
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| 20:37.17 | greycat | I have on idea. It was just one possible reason why installing the driver might have shown a performance boost. |
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| 20:37.28 | greycat | no idea |
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| 20:39.02 | no_gravity | i have no idea either |
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| 20:39.35 | hypn0 | it does seem to be the right one, 304 for your cad |
| 20:39.43 | no_gravity | hypn0: awesome, thanks |
| 20:39.45 | hypn0 | *card |
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| 20:39.58 | dfacto | do all cron events get e-mailed out by default? |
| 20:40.21 | greycat | only if the program produces stdout or stderr |
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| 20:40.47 | greycat | If it runs "silently", there'll be no email. |
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| 20:43.13 | medfly | hello |
| 20:43.16 | linuxthefish | why does resolvconf keep changing /etc/resolv.conf even through it's not installed? |
| 20:43.32 | dfacto | greycat thanks |
| 20:43.33 | linuxthefish | "# Generated by resolvconf"... |
| 20:43.40 | arminius | heh |
| 20:43.42 | medfly | my friend says the reason everything is outdated for me in debian on a personal computer is because I am using a stable version, and that a home user should use the testing version. is that still the case? |
| 20:44.07 | greycat | *right now*, stable is only a month old, so you won't be that far behind the bleeding edge |
| 20:44.12 | dfacto | medfly technically some of the packages may not be up to date, but they are the most appropriate for a stable production server |
| 20:44.17 | greycat | but in a year, things might feel different |
| 20:44.30 | arminius | linuxthefish: you can use chattr to make it immutable, just in case nothing else helps. but consider this an ugly workaround only while you find a proper solution. |
| 20:44.36 | medfly | it's not for a server, it's for a personal computer. |
| 20:44.47 | greycat | It totally depends on what you plan to *do* on your personal computer. |
| 20:45.01 | medfly | I don't mind if it randomly crashes 5 times a day |
| 20:45.06 | medfly | that would be a minor inconvenience |
| 20:45.22 | linuxthefish | thanks arminius, i've got DNS set properly with resolveconf on my other PC's but it's this silly software i have to use! |
| 20:45.22 | arminius | you don't mind if your computer crashes 5 times a day? |
| 20:45.26 | greycat | And you can always compile upstream software yourself, if you need to. Unless it has weird low-level library requirements. |
| 20:45.29 | medfly | well, it'd be a minor inconvenience |
| 20:45.33 | medfly | it's a work computer. crashes = break |
| 20:45.38 | medfly | ;) |
| 20:45.47 | linuxthefish | upstream means higher versions of packages? |
| 20:45.53 | arminius | linuxthefish: also be aware of the possible typo, resolv[e]conf |
| 20:46.10 | medfly | I guess I can just fetch stable for it because I'm sure I'll be forced to run a lot of things for everyone else by having Linux. |
| 20:46.54 | arminius | medfly: i mean i pretty much would quit my job if my computer at work crashed 5 times a day. |
| 20:47.04 | medfly | arminius: I'm doing webdev. there's worse things in life |
| 20:47.07 | medfly | :D |
| 20:47.35 | arminius | medfly: i'm actually developing quite a bunch of internet facing applications, too. |
| 20:47.37 | greycat | upstream means wherever Debian got it from |
| 20:48.10 | arminius | medfly: but really, a computer should do what i say, otherwise i would seriously question what i'm doing in front of a computer. |
| 20:48.17 | medfly | sure |
| 20:48.21 | medfly | I'm just saying, it's totally not a server |
| 20:48.30 | arminius | i fail to see how that differs. |
| 20:48.41 | medfly | I expect very little stability |
| 20:48.47 | arminius | why? |
| 20:48.57 | medfly | I'd rather have a version of VLC that isn't 3 years old like I do now |
| 20:49.05 | arminius | so? |
| 20:49.17 | medfly | idk it seems to happen in debian |
| 20:50.17 | arminius | i'm actually running sid on my notebook since the amount of breakage is just low enough for me, but my machine seriously usually reaches uptimes of weeks sometimes. |
| 20:50.49 | arminius | i wouldn't recommend such a way of life, though. |
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| 20:51.16 | medfly | everything seems so terrible right now that 5 crashes a day would be superior to how I'm working. |
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| 20:53.10 | arminius | sucks to be you, then. |
| 20:53.18 | medfly | what do people generally use as a window manager? I've heard some of the newer snazzy ones are ass |
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| 20:53.30 | medfly | buggy that is |
| 20:53.32 | greycat | I use fvwm. |
| 20:53.36 | greycat | I'm very old-fashioned. |
| 20:53.44 | arminius | medfly: i use i3. |
| 20:53.47 | medfly | the website is telling me to pick between lxde, kde, xfce. |
| 20:53.59 | greycat | You're looking at live CDs? |
| 20:54.14 | medfly | I'm not sure what I"m looking at |
| 20:54.18 | greycat | Which web page? |
| 20:54.25 | medfly | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.0.0/amd64/bt-cd/ |
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| 20:54.56 | medfly | should read more |
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| 20:55.26 | arminius | medfly: http://arminius.org/screenshot.png |
| 20:55.37 | greycat | medfly: there is also the "-netinst" choice. |
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| 20:56.12 | medfly | oooh, fancy. |
| 20:56.19 | greycat | !netinst |
| 20:56.19 | dpkg | rumour has it, netinst is a small CD image with which you can install Debian. If, during the installation process you have a working Internet connection, you can install more packages straight away, otherwise, you will have a base install and more packages later. See http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ See also <various cd1>, <check iso image>, <dialup install>, <usb install>, <installer>. |
| 20:56.21 | medfly | I'm using gnome like a pleb |
| 20:56.38 | arminius | medfly: well it's an extremely customized i3 actually |
| 20:56.55 | medfly | I do know what netinst is, but I don't want to use it. I'm just thinking here that the choice is between kde, lxde and xfce. was wondering which is the least likely to fail. apparently gnome is the default and I was confused by the naming |
| 20:57.08 | arminius | xfce then. |
| 20:57.23 | SuperTramp83 | you can't go wrong with Xfce |
| 20:57.24 | SuperTramp83 | :) |
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| 20:57.33 | arminius | friends don't let friends use gnome3. |
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| 20:57.41 | Tau | in order to create a bootable usb device should i have it formated with ntfs or fat32 ? |
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| 20:57.51 | medfly | arminius: is it so bad? I think I'm using it right now |
| 20:57.54 | Tau | it seems i'm having problems to copy the data onto the usb device that is on fat32. |
| 20:58.01 | Tau | i was wondering whether it should be ntfs. |
| 20:58.03 | Tau | what about? |
| 20:58.08 | medfly | Tau: I think it has to be fat32 |
| 20:58.08 | greycat | Those -kde, -xfce and -lxde images might be live CDs. I don't know. |
| 20:58.09 | arminius | medfly: i consider it entirely broken. |
| 20:58.15 | arminius | medfly: and unfinished. |
| 20:58.46 | arminius | medfly: also it doesn't make much sense to me to waste system ressources like gnome does. |
| 20:58.54 | frostschutz | Tau, neither is needed for booting. depends on whether you want bios style or efi |
| 20:59.19 | medfly | :) everyone is as confused as I am |
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| 20:59.33 | medfly | there should be a download for a live cd, so I can't rule it out. |
| 20:59.42 | greycat | medfly: well in my case it's because I never used a bittorrent image to retrieve the Debian net install CD image. |
| 20:59.48 | arminius | medfly: i really would not want to have such a userland on my system. if i need well thought out defaults i'd just install xfce and take 30min to configure it. |
| 21:00.08 | medfly | I'd rather not get the netinst, I connect over wifi, for the slim chance of it not working |
| 21:00.08 | hypn0 | what are you going to be running, alot of gui apps, or just a handful :-/ |
| 21:00.19 | arminius | medfly: actually, if i need good defaults, i just clone a git repo, but that's a thing for its own. |
| 21:00.31 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:00.38 | Tau | that are in the doc folder. |
| 21:00.40 | Tau | whats it? |
| 21:01.19 | medfly | this should just work if I cp the .iso file as is to the usb stick? that's crazy |
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| 21:06.40 | Agiofws | hello |
| 21:06.47 | Agiofws | SynrG, ? |
| 21:06.53 | Gachr | Hi guys, I'm thinking about installing Debian on my main PC, so I wonder - how stable is Sid? |
| 21:07.03 | greycat | Not ver. |
| 21:07.10 | greycat | Bah, my typing is so bad today. |
| 21:07.21 | Agiofws | isn't sid older than jessie? |
| 21:07.34 | greycat | Sid's unusually bad these days because they're just starting on Linux 4. |
| 21:07.35 | jadne | define "stable" |
| 21:07.39 | Gachr | Of course not in a comparison with other Debians, but in a comparison with Arch or Ubuntu. |
| 21:07.42 | jadne | oh lol linux 4 |
| 21:07.44 | Agiofws | linux 4? |
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| 21:07.52 | greycat | ,v linux-image-amd64 |
| 21:07.53 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; stretch: 3.16+63; sid: 4.0+64 |
| 21:08.00 | jadne | looks at sid |
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| 21:08.39 | Gachr | Yeah, I want to have some of the latest packages but also a system that's more stable than Arch. |
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| 21:08.56 | greycat | Sid is an alias for unstable. It's the perpetual "working area" where packages are first uploaded to see how bad they break things. |
| 21:09.11 | greycat | Gachr: run stable with backports. |
| 21:09.18 | medfly | what's backports? |
| 21:09.23 | greycat | /msg dpkg backports |
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| 21:10.04 | medfly | cool. |
| 21:10.19 | Gachr | greycat How do backports look on Debian? |
| 21:10.38 | greycat | Did you see judd's output a moment ago? There are some backports included there. |
| 21:10.54 | medfly | yeah, I guess you can have up to date packages without trying to use linux 4 :D |
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| 21:11.08 | greycat | So, for instance, if you wanted a 3.16 kernel on wheezy (old stable), that is available as a backport. |
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| 21:12.10 | Gachr | Is it better to go for Stable or Testing with backports? Testing is the most stable distro I've ever used. |
| 21:12.30 | greycat | I would use stable unless there is a SPECIFIC reason to use anything else. |
| 21:12.42 | medfly | :D |
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| 21:13.31 | Gachr | I like to have quite new packages but also stability. |
| 21:13.52 | greycat | These goals are conflicting. |
| 21:14.11 | Gachr | Not cutting edge stuff, more on the stability side. |
| 21:14.44 | greycat | Stable with backports might satisfy that. You can try. |
| 21:15.28 | arminius | greycat: i'm actually running testing on some machines, but i would vote against that on any production machine. |
| 21:15.43 | Gachr | greycat Alright, thanks, now a n00b question since I used Debian once in my life - how do I enable backports? |
| 21:15.51 | greycat | Gachr: /msg dpkg backports |
| 21:16.41 | Gachr | greycat, I don't understand. |
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| 21:18.01 | greycat | Gachr: tell your IRC client to send a private message to the user named "dpkg" on this IRC network, with the content "backports" |
| 21:18.11 | greycat | Normally you do that by typing /msg dpkg backports |
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| 21:18.47 | Gachr | greycat, Oh, that's a really smart bot :D |
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| 21:20.51 | medfly | this is confusing, is the .iso file if I do cp debian... .iso /dev/sdb1 bigger than 1gb? |
| 21:21.04 | greycat | What did you download? |
| 21:21.17 | medfly | debian-8.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso |
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| 21:21.31 | greycat | If it's truly a CD image and not a DVD image, I'd expect it to be under 1 GB. |
| 21:21.46 | medfly | is ym syntax incorrect? |
| 21:21.50 | medfly | maybe I need to unmount... |
| 21:21.57 | greycat | What does ls -l debian-8.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso say? |
| 21:22.12 | medfly | # cp debian-8.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso /dev/sdb1 |
| 21:22.12 | medfly | cp: writing `/dev/sdb1': No space left on device |
| 21:22.12 | medfly | cp: failed to extend `/dev/sdb1': No space left on device |
| 21:22.21 | medfly | -rw-r--r-- 1 kit kit 666894336 Jun 5 00:16 debian-8.0.0-amd64-xfce-CD-1.iso |
| 21:22.48 | greycat | That's CD sized. |
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| 21:23.09 | frostschutz | why sdb1? sdb if anything |
| 21:23.13 | frostschutz | if it's a usb stick |
| 21:23.15 | greycat | If you're writing to a USB "disk", you should write to /dev/sdb not a partition. |
| 21:23.25 | medfly | frostschutz: it says the same. |
| 21:23.29 | greycat | And it should not be mounted. |
| 21:23.32 | frostschutz | get a larger stick? |
| 21:23.48 | frostschutz | or just use the netinst like any sane person |
| 21:24.12 | medfly | will it be fine with most wifi stuff? |
| 21:24.26 | medfly | since I can't connect my computer to the network by cable |
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| 21:24.49 | medfly | hi Eduard_Munteanu |
| 21:25.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | medfly, hey there |
| 21:25.28 | tpanarch1st | hey, should hostname -f work in Debian 6 please? |
| 21:25.38 | karlpinc | medfly: You might want to consider the unoffical install images that already include non-free firmware. Some wifi needs this, dunno. |
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| 21:27.22 | linuxthefish | is there any way to force writing partition table to usb drive? |
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| 21:27.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | linuxthefish, just sync |
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| 21:27.57 | Eduard_Munteanu | linuxthefish, unless you mean forcing the kernel to re-read it |
| 21:28.18 | linuxthefish | "You will not be able to write the partition table." :( |
| 21:28.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | linuxthefish, who says that? |
| 21:28.45 | linuxthefish | mr fdisk /dev/sda |
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| 21:29.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | linuxthefish, is there a read-only physical switch on the drive? |
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| 21:30.18 | linuxthefish | nope, first time it worked but then i tried to make a new partition table :( |
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| 21:31.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | linuxthefish, and are you running fdisk as root? |
| 21:31.05 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: In my experience writing to flash drives can turn out badly. They lie about which block is block 0, so re-creating a partition table or a mbr can end badly. |
| 21:31.27 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: It has to do with the built-in wear levelin. |
| 21:31.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | It shouldn't matter where the 0th physical block is. |
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| 21:31.47 | medfly | I found a larger USB stick :) |
| 21:32.10 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: However, there must be a way to make it work because otherwise the installer wouldn't be able to be put onto flash drives. |
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| 21:32.38 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: (Although the one time I did this the drive was good for nothing else forever after.) So, dunno. |
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| 21:33.08 | jhutchins | karlpinc: I think the majority of instllations these days are done by writing an iso to a flash drive. |
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| 21:34.40 | Agiofws | hey |
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| 21:37.51 | dfacto | can anyone suggest a good tool to manage several debian servers? automate apt-get update for example, consolidate logs, etc |
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| 21:40.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | dfacto, Ansible. Or any other configuration management solution. |
| 21:40.26 | jhutchins | dfacto: If you're talking "several", bash for loops and ssh. If you're talking "lots", ansible. |
| 21:42.59 | linuxthefish | karlpinc it's just for storage, not mounted as anything important |
| 21:43.05 | linuxthefish | "Partition 1: sector 59 greater than maximum 32" :O |
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| 21:43.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | linuxthefish, that sounds like a broken flash drive |
| 21:43.49 | dfacto | thanks, i`ll look into it |
| 21:44.06 | linuxthefish | after reboot its fine though :( |
| 21:44.21 | dfacto | ah, i was looking for opensource! |
| 21:44.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | dfacto, it is open source |
| 21:45.01 | acz32 | anyone know a good update notifier for kde? |
| 21:45.29 | dfacto | ah, I think i saw pricing for Tower, ok |
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| 21:46.31 | knocktwice | Hi. I interrupted apt-get while removing drupal7. Now apt-get/dpkg is failing to remove it, and I can't find an error message that will tell me what's up. |
| 21:46.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ah, yeah, there is some business around it, yes. But the core stuff is open. |
| 21:47.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | knocktwice, try apt-get install -f |
| 21:48.51 | knocktwice | Eduard_Munteanu: thanks. that worked. |
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| 22:12.33 | tortib | Can someone give some assistance with apt pinning? I have the following in my /etc/apt/preferences file http://paste.debian.net/202144/ ; however it's showing that the testing packages are still available when I run apt-get upgrade after running update. |
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| 22:13.51 | tortib | I even changed stable to wheezy which is my sources.list file and it still tires to update apache and some other packages that I don't want to be updated to testing |
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| 22:14.26 | Krakakanok | tortib see this https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 22:15.22 | tortib | Krakakanok, I have read that documentation and it appears that it's still not working the way it should |
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| 22:16.10 | Krakakanok | mmm |
| 22:16.21 | Uran238 | /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00release -> APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 22:16.40 | Uran238 | or stable jessie atd |
| 22:17.45 | tortib | Uran238, I set that to wheezy |
| 22:17.54 | tortib | and the update completes but upgrade still tries to upgrade testing packages |
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| 22:20.47 | tortib | ah |
| 22:20.49 | tortib | got it to work |
| 22:20.55 | tortib | I set the Pin-Priority to -5 |
| 22:21.00 | Uran238 | :-) |
| 22:22.28 | hassoon | :-@ |
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| 22:27.45 | srsc | where should i create systemd .service files to start webapps? /usr/lib/systemd/user? /usr/lib/systemd/system? /etc/systemd/user? /etc/systemd/system? somewhere else? |
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| 22:28.06 | srsc | haven't found a suggestion for non-packaged .service files, sorry for dumb question. |
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| 22:32.33 | srsc | looks like /etc/systemd/system/somewebapp.service |
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| 22:47.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | srsc, yes, there |
| 22:48.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | srsc, however if you're making a package, then you want the /lib location |
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| 22:57.00 | srsc | Edward_Munteanu: ok, right, this is just for a deployed webapp and not a package. thank you. |
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| 23:03.59 | Akuw | is possible to configure printer using only lpr? |
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| 23:13.11 | Jaelae | i am going through a sweet guide to setup an NFS server on debian. would you normally create LVM for any storage even if it is a single disk? |
| 23:13.23 | Jaelae | not sure if i should fdisk/mkfs.ext4 a 10TB drive and call it a day |
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