| 00:00.00 | blackmagic | if [[ $(host google.com) ]]; then update_ip.sh; fi |
| 00:00.05 | blackmagic | in /etc/rc.local perhaps |
| 00:00.16 | sideup66 | like an if statement? or maybe a sleep that delays til networkmanager is up? |
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| 00:00.36 | blackmagic | yes |
| 00:00.40 | Hydroxide | blackmagic: be careful about bashisms in /etc/rc.local - by default that points to /bin/sh which by default points to dash |
| 00:00.55 | Hydroxide | (at least on fresh jessie installs) |
| 00:01.06 | sideup66 | dash? dont mind me asking what it is |
| 00:01.07 | blackmagic | or you can do: if [ -e /run/network/.ifstate.lock ];then update_ip.sh;fi |
| 00:01.24 | Hydroxide | sideup66: faster but less featureful shell |
| 00:01.30 | blackmagic | since he commented on the bashism, that sh will work just find. |
| 00:01.32 | sideup66 | oh hydroxide |
| 00:01.55 | blackmagic | yeah, the second if statement will work just fine. |
| 00:01.57 | sideup66 | but then i would guess that would reflect in mail as it wouldnt know what to do with wget |
| 00:02.16 | blackmagic | that way, it'll run on boot.. and if it fails, it will run on the */5 crontab |
| 00:02.38 | Hydroxide | sideup66: standards-compliant and better for performance reasons for the many many /bin/sh scripts which exist on debian and don't need bash. bash's nonstandard features are nice for interactive use or if a script specifically needs those features. |
| 00:02.44 | blackmagic | if you redirect the wget with -q, or >/dev/null, it wont report a email |
| 00:03.01 | sideup66 | Hydroxide, it shows my cron environment in the mail entry as /bin/sh |
| 00:03.02 | blackmagic | or do something like |
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| 00:03.14 | sideup66 | also blackmagic yeah i know, but right now for figuring things out i dont mind the output |
| 00:03.16 | blackmagic | rc.local: MAILTO=""; if [ -e /run/network/.ifstate.lock ];then update_ip.sh;fi |
| 00:03.16 | sideup66 | useful for a debug |
| 00:03.23 | Hydroxide | sideup66: sure. run this: ls -l /bin/sh |
| 00:03.29 | blackmagic | well, the if statement should work just fine. |
| 00:03.33 | Hydroxide | sideup66: on a fresh debian 8 install, it points to dash |
| 00:03.46 | blackmagic | i didnt know they replaced sh with dash |
| 00:03.47 | Hydroxide | agrees that blackmagic's second if statement is compatible with dash :) |
| 00:03.59 | Hydroxide | blackmagic: more like chose dash as the default implementation |
| 00:04.01 | blackmagic | i know it is Hydroxide :) i verified it lol |
| 00:04.06 | blackmagic | haha, this is true. |
| 00:04.08 | sideup66 | nah just do > /dev/null 2>&1 |
| 00:04.14 | sideup66 | thats how i quiet it blackmagic |
| 00:04.21 | blackmagic | wget -q does the same. |
| 00:04.24 | Hydroxide | blackmagic: I believe you can dpkg-reconfigure dash to pick bash as the default, or something like that |
| 00:04.40 | blackmagic | i know, i already did that Hydroxide on my install. |
| 00:04.45 | Hydroxide | blackmagic: the default (non-system) user shell is still bash though |
| 00:04.45 | sideup66 | blackmagic, will doing the -q switch also stop its output file it tends to make |
| 00:04.50 | blackmagic | i dislike sh in all forms. |
| 00:04.53 | blackmagic | yes sideup66 |
| 00:04.56 | blackmagic | or you mean wget-log? |
| 00:05.13 | Hydroxide | blackmagic: bash is still a form of sh, just one with lots of added features :) what shell do you prefer? |
| 00:05.19 | blackmagic | without seeing the actual update script/code, i can onkly guess |
| 00:05.24 | sideup66 | nono blackmagic when it runs its wget, it grabs the update page that it hits and puts that in /root |
| 00:05.25 | blackmagic | bash sir. |
| 00:05.32 | Hydroxide | ok |
| 00:05.41 | blackmagic | sideup66: wget -q -O/dev/null http://..../ |
| 00:05.41 | sideup66 | like if i do wget www.afraid.org/sideup66blahblah |
| 00:05.44 | blackmagic | is how it should work |
| 00:05.53 | blackmagic | look* |
| 00:05.53 | sideup66 | it will make a file in /root called sideup66blahblah |
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| 00:06.05 | blackmagic | then use -O/dev/null along with -q |
| 00:06.20 | blackmagic | means its quiet, and saves file data into /dev/null. |
| 00:06.26 | blackmagic | well, dumps it into /dev/null |
| 00:06.55 | sideup66 | ah ok |
| 00:07.03 | blackmagic | which one are you using? |
| 00:07.18 | sideup66 | blackmagic, hm? |
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| 00:07.32 | sideup66 | also Hydroxide cat /dev/urandom |
| 00:07.33 | blackmagic | https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-468368.html sideup66 |
| 00:07.36 | sideup66 | free screensaver :p |
| 00:07.53 | blackmagic | HAHA! |
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| 00:08.10 | blackmagic | i got a matrix screen saver thing for my shell..but i dont like 'while /bin/true' |
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| 00:08.29 | sideup66 | oh |
| 00:08.35 | sideup66 | and blackmagic nothing that smart even |
| 00:08.45 | Hydroxide | sideup66: heh. my screensaver (in kde) is typically ctrl-alt-l to lock, then walk away :-) |
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| 00:09.00 | blackmagic | haha Hydroxide, i just shut my lid to lock mine. |
| 00:09.01 | sideup66 | just runs the update every once in a while, i know i could make it smarter and see if it needs to update |
| 00:09.01 | Hydroxide | blank screen, usually sleep or hibernate if it's a laptop |
| 00:09.08 | sideup66 | but meh, once per hour isnt too obnoxious |
| 00:09.18 | blackmagic | i wouldnt do hourly |
| 00:09.26 | blackmagic | midnight would be perfect, but */5 for testing |
| 00:09.46 | sideup66 | actually the hour job runs perfect |
| 00:09.58 | blackmagic | @daily /bin/sh -c 'MAILTO=""; if [ -e /run/network/.ifstate.lock ];then update_ip.sh;fi' |
| 00:10.02 | sideup66 | its just the @reboot one that is having difficulty, i just have that set so if there was say a power outage |
| 00:10.06 | sideup66 | dont have to wait an hour to correct |
| 00:10.26 | blackmagic | why not put a entry in the /etc/init.d/network file or /etc/init.d/NetworkManager |
| 00:10.27 | sideup66 | or for the next hour to tick over rather |
| 00:10.29 | blackmagic | ? |
| 00:10.40 | sideup66 | didnt know that was possible |
| 00:10.41 | blackmagic | that way when the network is brougth up, it runs it |
| 00:10.44 | blackmagic | yes |
| 00:10.48 | sideup66 | i did use inadyn for a while but it bombs out for no reason alot |
| 00:11.00 | blackmagic | you can edit any /etc/init.d file, but its strongly advised NOT too unless you know what your doing |
| 00:11.11 | blackmagic | and you can test with 'service <init.d you edited> restart' |
| 00:11.20 | sideup66 | ohhhh i see, so it just runs at the service start |
| 00:11.25 | sideup66 | you just chuck in an extra command |
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| 00:11.51 | blackmagic | yes, for example, if your doing the 'network' file, under the start) section, right above the exit line, put your code..sec |
| 00:12.17 | sideup66 | i know where your talking blackmagic |
| 00:12.19 | sideup66 | hmmm didnt think of it |
| 00:12.39 | blackmagic | http://paste.justla.me/?id=21 |
| 00:12.40 | blackmagic | for example |
| 00:12.54 | sideup66 | right, gotcha |
| 00:13.08 | blackmagic | its a cheap, unorthadox method, but this isnt complex, nor 'security' based |
| 00:13.27 | sideup66 | its my guess at least, that cron is just running before the network is up |
| 00:13.34 | sideup66 | and of course dutifully does its job which fails |
| 00:13.38 | sideup66 | so either make the script smarter |
| 00:13.41 | blackmagic | uhm, depends on the upstart levels |
| 00:13.54 | sideup66 | or edit somthing else |
| 00:13.56 | blackmagic | well, the runtime levels. |
| 00:14.06 | sideup66 | umm hang on, i can check that in sysv-rc-conf |
| 00:14.13 | blackmagic | if it was me, i would just leave it in the */5 crontab entry |
| 00:14.24 | sideup66 | what is that interval |
| 00:14.25 | blackmagic | or hourly, or whatever |
| 00:14.28 | sideup66 | every 5 hours? |
| 00:14.30 | blackmagic | every 5 minutes. |
| 00:14.35 | sideup66 | ohhh |
| 00:14.39 | blackmagic | */5 * * * = 5 mins, |
| 00:14.50 | blackmagic | min, hour, day, week, year IIRC. |
| 00:14.56 | sideup66 | yeah that is too much, i noticed that when its too frequent afraid.org seems to start ignoring your box |
| 00:15.00 | blackmagic | something like that lol. |
| 00:15.19 | sideup66 | hour seemed to strike a balance between not ticking it off |
| 00:15.21 | sideup66 | and making it work |
| 00:15.24 | blackmagic | yes, so @nightly or @hourly |
| 00:15.40 | sideup66 | and lol at spotify |
| 00:15.43 | sideup66 | for playing me a spanish ad |
| 00:15.48 | sideup66 | in the us.....on the east coast |
| 00:15.56 | sideup66 | sorry unrelated note but in any case |
| 00:16.04 | blackmagic | no different then having to press 1 for english lol |
| 00:16.50 | sideup66 | lol also cron starts at runlevel 2 |
| 00:16.58 | blackmagic | and what is network? |
| 00:16.58 | sideup66 | and runs all the way up according to sysv-rc-conf |
| 00:17.23 | sideup66 | and so does network manager weirdly |
| 00:17.25 | sideup66 | lol |
| 00:17.31 | sideup66 | i could but like maybe a 30 second sleep on it |
| 00:17.34 | blackmagic | which one is first? |
| 00:17.42 | blackmagic | if you put a sleep in, it will increase your boot time. |
| 00:17.47 | sideup66 | cron, it lists alphabetically |
| 00:18.00 | sideup66 | nono i mean in my script i run in cron |
| 00:18.44 | sideup66 | cron just kicks off a shell script |
| 00:18.45 | blackmagic | but if the script runs on boot, it will wait for the script to finish |
| 00:18.46 | blackmagic | i never use sleep on any ONBOOT script |
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| 00:18.56 | blackmagic | why not just write your own init.d kicker script to run when X starts? |
| 00:19.26 | blackmagic | http://freedns.afraid.org/scripts/update.sh.txt is what your using? |
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| 00:20.59 | sideup66 | similar, but no it doesnt, i added a 5 second sleep and it didnt affect, the system is on systemd |
| 00:21.06 | sideup66 | systemd does parellel booting |
| 00:21.29 | blackmagic | that one checks if it matches the current record, if it does, it does nothing, if it doesnt match, it updates |
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| 00:21.50 | blackmagic | so you could crontab it every minute if you wanted |
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| 00:22.24 | blackmagic | or every 5 minutes, as it checks checkip.dyndns.org to validate it |
| 00:22.35 | blackmagic | they dont complain about 5 min DNS checks |
| 00:22.52 | sideup66 | hm |
| 00:23.07 | sideup66 | hang on, im going to try another edit, let you know results when i get back |
| 00:23.23 | blackmagic | the script i posted, checks your record FIRST, if it fails, it updates |
| 00:23.25 | blackmagic | damn him.. |
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| 00:24.33 | jvava | hi |
| 00:24.55 | RoyK | EHLO |
| 00:25.19 | jvava | im compiling mariadb, but it warning that 'TokuDB is enabled, but jemalloc is not', |
| 00:25.44 | jvava | please help me |
| 00:26.00 | RoyK | does that application support postgresql? |
| 00:26.24 | jvava | RoyK, |
| 00:26.40 | RoyK | imho mariadb is a patch on the wreckage of mysql whereas postgresql is the cure |
| 00:26.46 | jvava | does you means that jemalloc support postgresql? |
| 00:26.51 | blackmagic | you might have better luck in mariadb channels. |
| 00:27.03 | blackmagic | postgres is a cure? |
| 00:27.19 | RoyK | well, postgres just works |
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| 00:27.29 | blackmagic | so does my MySQL servers.. :) |
| 00:27.35 | sideup66 | ok im back blackmagic |
| 00:27.39 | blackmagic | success? |
| 00:27.48 | sideup66 | it worked, i lengthened the sleep in the update script |
| 00:27.49 | RoyK | even postgres has its issues but not even close to those of mysql and mariadb |
| 00:28.00 | sideup66 | i know not your reccomended, but didnt seem to affect boot |
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| 00:28.12 | RoyK | just my 2c |
| 00:28.12 | centrx | blackmagic, http://grimoire.ca/mysql/choose-something-else |
| 00:28.24 | blackmagic | i havnt had a single issue with SQL.. as far as performance..syntax yes.. but yeah |
| 00:28.37 | sideup66 | thanks for the advice though :) |
| 00:28.47 | sideup66 | its not delaying cron itself or anything |
| 00:28.52 | RoyK | blackmagic: SQL is a langauge shared by several systems :P |
| 00:29.16 | sideup66 | or any boot procedure, its just when the script loads, it has a sleep 20 line that delays the scripts action for 20 seconds, still seems like the rest of the os boots in that period |
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| 00:29.48 | sideup66 | now to just add the quiet switch the wget and i should be golden |
| 00:29.53 | sideup66 | *I |
| 00:29.57 | RoyK | sideup66: if you run bad software on debian, it's not debian's fault |
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| 00:30.18 | sideup66 | RoyK, what do you mean? how am i running bad software |
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| 00:30.30 | sideup66 | all im doing is a wget that seems to fire off before my network is fully awak |
| 00:30.31 | sideup66 | e |
| 00:31.20 | blackmagic | sideup66: using sleep is depending on a bad idea, i would check for network connectivity, not ASSUME its running. |
| 00:31.43 | RoyK | imho mysql and perhaps some of the derivates is pretty lousy software. That's subjective of me, as always. Ask otherwise for an objective truth |
| 00:31.49 | blackmagic | when i write a script depending on network, i validate the network is working, not assume it. |
| 00:32.21 | RoyK | that is - for an objective truth, you'll need a god of sorts - I don't have one |
| 00:32.49 | sideup66 | ok, so could i have a script loop a simple check on the interface until its up, then do its thing once its up |
| 00:33.10 | blackmagic | writing that could get complex.. but yes. correct |
| 00:33.19 | blackmagic | you can do something along the lines of, sec.. |
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| 00:35.46 | sideup66 | blackmagic, found somthing http://serverfault.com/questions/42021/how-to-ping-in-linux-until-host-is-known |
| 00:37.47 | blackmagic | http://paste.justla.me/?id=22 |
| 00:37.52 | blackmagic | something like that sideup66 |
| 00:38.16 | blackmagic | that will run forever.. i think. |
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| 00:38.28 | sideup66 | blackmagic, i also found the link above |
| 00:38.34 | blackmagic | yeah, run til it succeeds |
| 00:38.34 | sideup66 | which loops until it gets a clean response |
| 00:38.37 | sideup66 | then quits |
| 00:38.51 | blackmagic | thats exactly what i wrote lol. |
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| 00:39.12 | blackmagic | except tailored to your needs |
| 00:39.37 | sideup66 | oh blackmagic, either works, really if i can ping google in reality, it would work lol |
| 00:39.41 | blackmagic | it will check for the up status of wlan5, wont quit til its found. |
| 00:40.03 | blackmagic | mine checks for the interface to be up and running, but i can make it check for connectivity with ease |
| 00:40.31 | sideup66 | true |
| 00:40.36 | sideup66 | also a ping is less code :p lol |
| 00:40.56 | sideup66 | ping may work better in my opinion |
| 00:40.59 | sideup66 | as it also resolves the dns |
| 00:41.08 | sideup66 | because theoretically i could be on the lan |
| 00:41.11 | sideup66 | but unable to do anything |
| 00:41.22 | blackmagic | http://paste.justla.me/?id=23 |
| 00:41.37 | blackmagic | wait its wrong |
| 00:42.11 | sideup66 | lol its fine blackmagic im probably just going to stick with the ping |
| 00:42.15 | sideup66 | its no big deal :) |
| 00:42.25 | sideup66 | hell if i can ping, i can call a url |
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| 00:43.37 | blackmagic | http://paste.justla.me/?id=24 |
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| 00:43.45 | blackmagic | there, thats perfect to start with |
| 00:44.43 | sideup66 | that basically does the same thing lol |
| 00:44.53 | sideup66 | just pings until it gets an ok signal |
| 00:44.55 | sideup66 | then quits |
| 00:44.58 | sideup66 | otherwise keeps going |
| 00:45.09 | blackmagic | your skipping validating if the interface is up with just 'ping' |
| 00:45.21 | blackmagic | my script is designed for 'on boot', not cron. |
| 00:45.27 | blackmagic | but to each their own :) |
| 00:45.47 | sideup66 | but if you have ping the interface is up (?) i would think otherwise, how would ping work???? |
| 00:45.56 | sideup66 | if im pinging a site say yahoo/google/etc |
| 00:46.06 | sideup66 | im calling both ip and dns |
| 00:46.19 | blackmagic | i check for any and all possible failures.. your just worried about network. |
| 00:46.39 | blackmagic | again, to each their own :) |
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| 00:47.27 | sideup66 | eh in my case i figure though (also the ip on the box is static on the local lan, so no dhcp handshake necessary in my case) |
| 00:47.39 | blackmagic | i try not to leave room for things to cause issues, you know, be preventive over fixing. |
| 00:47.39 | sideup66 | if i can ping, im up at least enough to do what i need |
| 00:47.47 | Smither | hey, I'm wanting to load an x application on boot to fill the whole screen and have no option to close the program or do anything except use that program, I still need to control it over ssh but the only thing basic user should be able to do is use that program, I've looked online but can't find anything that works. Does anyone have any ideas or has anyone done this before? |
| 00:47.54 | blackmagic | if your lan is static, why even use network-manager, you can do this ALL from interfaces :) |
| 00:48.22 | blackmagic | Smither: like a pre-defined X enviro? |
| 00:48.26 | centrx | Smither, The word you're looking for is "kiosk" |
| 00:48.31 | blackmagic | ^ |
| 00:48.47 | Smither | okay thanks, i'll take a gander :) |
| 00:48.50 | sideup66 | i see, though i think both solve it and true, i never fully understood network interfaces =\ when i first put this together i was completely new to really working with linux, figured i would learn by going in the deep end of the pool |
| 00:48.55 | sideup66 | :) |
| 00:49.05 | blackmagic | looks like what he wants is 'matchbox' |
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| 00:49.40 | blackmagic | sideup66: by going in the deep end without learning to swim first, might cause you to die.. metaphoricly speaking ofc. |
| 00:49.46 | karlpinc | Smither: "/msg dpkg search" for ways to search. I like debtags.... |
| 00:49.48 | blackmagic | sorry for my bad spelling, im tired ands till gotta showah. |
| 00:50.05 | sideup66 | blackmagic, im not on anything huge :) im hard-headed, not stupid ;) |
| 00:50.11 | blackmagic | matchbox-desktop - desktop application launcher for resource-limited systems |
| 00:50.16 | blackmagic | sideup66: i can tell. |
| 00:50.56 | Smither | thanks karlpinc but kiosk seems to be exactly what i am looking for (thanks blackmagic and centrx) |
| 00:51.16 | jvava | so how to enable jemalloc or judge if enabled |
| 00:51.23 | sideup66 | its just a home server, nothing heavy duty and web stuff isnt anything mission-critical honestly |
| 00:51.29 | sideup66 | can be annoying, but wont burn down the house |
| 00:54.05 | sideup66 | in any case, ill brb blackmagic off to test this again |
| 00:54.29 | blackmagic | he should do this in virtualbox so he doesnt keep rebooting the main machine lol |
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| 00:58.53 | sideup66 | blackmagic, works perfect :D |
| 00:58.59 | blackmagic | sideup66: my script was backwards btw |
| 00:59.20 | sideup66 | ah blackmagic its fine, i used the ping test, worked perfectly |
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| 01:00.10 | blackmagic | welp, time for a shower and i might try to goto bed early..if not i shall return |
| 01:00.14 | blackmagic | later #debian ! |
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| 01:03.07 | sideup66 | ok c ya blackmagic |
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| 01:10.20 | stevendale | Where can I find the RT5370 driver for Jessie |
| 01:10.31 | stevendale | I want to use it during installation |
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| 01:12.40 | stevendale | okay nvm |
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| 01:13.07 | stevendale | if i want to use it during installation, what should the USB drive that holds the firmware be formatted as? |
| 01:15.34 | centrx | stevendale, ext4 is a safe bet |
| 01:15.40 | centrx | stevendale, fat32 should work too |
| 01:15.44 | stevendale | centrx: thanks! |
| 01:16.17 | stevendale | centrx: But FAT32 doesn't support symlinks? |
| 01:16.43 | centrx | ? |
| 01:16.47 | centrx | Do you need symlinks |
| 01:17.06 | stevendale | inside /home/steven/Downloads/firmware-ralink_0.43_all.deb lib/firmware, rt3090.bin and rt3070.bin are symlinks |
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| 01:17.31 | centrx | ok a .deb is a file, if you are looking inside it that's some fancy business your file manager is doing |
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| 01:17.44 | centrx | If you have a Linux system already, just use ext4 |
| 01:17.56 | centrx | I said FAT32 (or NTFS) for if you are formatting from Windows |
| 01:18.04 | scoofy | fat32 for most compatiblity |
| 01:18.19 | scoofy | isn't ext2 better for usb sticks? ext4 has delayed write |
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| 01:18.31 | centrx | I don't know |
| 01:18.33 | centrx | ext2 is fine too |
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| 01:18.52 | scoofy | i read somewhere that ext2 may be better for usb sticks (but ext4 should be mostly fine, too) |
| 01:19.11 | scoofy | though if you remove an ext4 stick without proper unmounting first, that may cause data loss |
| 01:19.17 | scoofy | if i understand right |
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| 01:19.42 | stevendale | scoofy: I always run sync in Terminal before pulling out/unmounting drives |
| 01:19.50 | jeep | usb sticks should be fat32 so every device / computer ect. can use it |
| 01:20.01 | scoofy | some say "Plenty of people say in the forums that ext3 and ext4 will wear your |
| 01:20.04 | scoofy | USB out quickly, effectively thrashing it with their journaling." |
| 01:20.20 | scoofy | ext2 has no journaling, so... may wear the flash drive less (not that it matters too much with modern drives) |
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| 01:21.58 | radd | fat32 gets my vote |
| 01:22.06 | josh_ | Hello. I'm looking for help getting higher screen resolution on my desktop. |
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| 01:22.33 | radd | higher than what? |
| 01:23.05 | scoofy | (though the delayed write can be switched off with ext4 iirc) |
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| 01:23.14 | josh_ | radd: 1024x768 |
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| 01:24.13 | radd | for anything else, I would not use fat32. but for a portable hard disk drive with non-critical data |
| 01:24.34 | radd | josh_: is this a VM? |
| 01:24.37 | scoofy | article about potential issue with delayed allocation with ext4: |
| 01:24.38 | scoofy | http://www.pointsoftware.ch/en/4-ext4-vs-ext3-filesystem-and-why-delayed-allocation-is-bad/ |
| 01:24.57 | josh_ | radd: no. |
| 01:25.14 | radd | what desktop manager are you using? |
| 01:25.18 | josh_ | i have jessie dual-booted on my pc. |
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| 01:25.29 | josh_ | gnome 4 |
| 01:25.33 | radd | you probably want xrandr |
| 01:25.36 | radd | i think |
| 01:26.23 | radd | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Xrandr |
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| 01:27.31 | josh_ | radd: it says i already have that. |
| 01:27.43 | radd | you probably do |
| 01:27.56 | radd | i mean, you want to use `xrandr` to control resolution |
| 01:28.04 | josh_ | ok |
| 01:28.18 | radd | i really hate the syntax for xrandr. good luck :) |
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| 01:28.49 | soundtoxin | josh_: apt-get install arandr |
| 01:28.53 | soundtoxin | it's a gui to control it |
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| 01:29.24 | radd | `xrandr --output DVI-0 --mode 1280x800 --auto` |
| 01:29.31 | radd | would be an example |
| 01:29.56 | soundtoxin | or if you have nvidia/amd GPU you can use the control center |
| 01:31.05 | radd | `xrandr -q` |
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| 01:31.19 | radd | should list compat. resolutions |
| 01:31.27 | radd | and their name |
| 01:31.33 | radd | i mean the name of the adapter |
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| 01:32.31 | radd | arandr ? thanks soundtoxin. that is probably a lot easier |
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| 01:32.46 | josh_ | thanks, soundtoxin. |
| 01:32.54 | soundtoxin | radd: yeah I had an issue where I accidentally disabled my second monitor the other day so I was looking into setting resolutions haha |
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| 01:32.55 | radd | i cringe whenever I need to eff with xrandr coli |
| 01:32.57 | radd | cli |
| 01:32.57 | soundtoxin | josh_: no problem |
| 01:33.04 | josh_ | i still can't find a higher res. |
| 01:33.08 | radd | nice |
| 01:33.09 | stevendale | I resorted to plugging in a blue cable instead |
| 01:33.32 | josh_ | how do i get to the nvidia control center? |
| 01:33.42 | radd | josh_: what video card or driver is in use? |
| 01:34.07 | radd | you need to get nvidia video drivers working |
| 01:34.14 | josh_ | Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 3.5, 256 bits |
| 01:34.18 | soundtoxin | josh_: nvidia-settings |
| 01:34.24 | soundtoxin | make sure to run it with root privs though |
| 01:34.29 | soundtoxin | e.g. gksu nvidia-settings |
| 01:34.35 | soundtoxin | otherwise you can't make changes |
| 01:34.39 | josh_ | ok |
| 01:35.17 | soundtoxin | josh_: that is assuming the driver is properly installed though, chances are if your resolution is screwed up it might not be installed yet anyway |
| 01:35.48 | soundtoxin | and if that's the case, smxi is a super simple way to manage GPU drivers |
| 01:36.35 | soundtoxin | just switch to root, navigate to /usr/sbin I think, then wget -Nc smxi.org/smxi.zip && unzip smxi.zip && smxi |
| 01:36.42 | soundtoxin | (make sure unzip is installed before running that though) |
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| 01:40.31 | head8debian | Whats the alternative to qt5-qtmultimedia |
| 01:40.34 | head8debian | in debina? |
| 01:40.38 | head8debian | debian* |
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| 01:44.24 | sideup66 | oh right |
| 01:44.27 | sideup66 | TIME TO PURGE THIS POS |
| 01:44.37 | sideup66 | wrong room |
| 01:44.38 | sideup66 | whoops |
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| 01:48.27 | arminius | o.O |
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| 02:03.02 | blackjack | Hello. Is editting the sources.list from wheezy to jessie that simple and doing apt-get update / upgrade / dist-upgrade will upgrade my vps? |
| 02:04.29 | head8debian | blackjack: Should be. just apt-get update/apt-get dist-upgrade. |
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| 02:05.01 | somiaj | blackjack: it is suggested you read teh release notes about known issues with upgrading first |
| 02:05.26 | head8debian | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:05.26 | soundtoxin | there's a thing the bot can tell you about upgrading, right? |
| 02:05.30 | soundtoxin | ^ yeah that was it |
| 02:05.49 | head8debian | :D |
| 02:06.01 | blackjack | tnx |
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| 02:24.44 | karlpinc | Just upgraded a box running apt-cacher to jessie and apt-cacher now seems to be broken, at least with httpredir.debian.org. Might be bug #782126, might not. |
| 02:24.45 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/782126 in apt-cacher (pending): «apt-cacher: apt-cacher-import.pl calculates invalid Content-Length header»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-04-08; last modified: 2015-06-02. |
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| 02:35.41 | Guest7187 | I got the nvidia drivers installed. I fixed my screen resolution issue. THANKS, FOLKS!!!! |
| 02:36.14 | karlpinc | Humm, apt-cacher is listening only on ipv6. Wonder what could cause that? |
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| 02:36.17 | Guest7187 | -Josh |
| 02:40.32 | karlpinc | I swear, it's always shaving yaks. I can put a config parameter in apt-cacher.conf, but I don't want to use an ip number I want a name. But that means that apt-cacher must come up before named. And that means systemd.... |
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| 02:50.17 | soundtoxin | josh1: no prob |
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| 02:54.30 | karlpinc | Allright. Why am I getting "aptitude update" output that ends in "E: Couldn't rebuild package cache"? It's failing because it can't find a "Sources" file. That's because it's not there. (See: http://paste.debian.net/205506/) There's a Sources.gz and a Sources.xz, but no plain old "Sources". So why does aptitude give me errors? I can't believe all the repos are messed up. |
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| 02:56.38 | future28 | Hi all, can anyone point me in the right direction to installing the new kernel? |
| 02:57.11 | karlpinc | future28: You want to compile your own kernel? |
| 02:57.49 | future28 | karlpinc: Not really, I just want to put 4.0 in as it fixes some bugs I have on my current system |
| 02:58.43 | karlpinc | future28: That would either mean compiling your own or perhaps backporting from sid. |
| 02:58.47 | karlpinc | !kernel handbook |
| 02:58.47 | dpkg | The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ - packaged as debian-kernel-handbook since Debian 7 "Wheezy" - serves as a single access point to all kernel-related documentation. See chapter 4.2 to rebuild official Debian kernel packages, see chapter 4.5 to build a custom kernel from Debian kernel source. |
| 02:59.13 | karlpinc | future28: Or, there may be a new kernel in backports. *duh* |
| 02:59.33 | karlpinc | !backports |
| 02:59.34 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 03:00.02 | karlpinc | !kernel |
| 03:00.05 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.1-rc6, stable 4.0: 4.0.4, stable 3.19: 3.19.8 (EOL), longterm 3.18: 3.18.14, longterm 3.14: 3.14.43, longterm 3.12: 3.12.43, longterm 3.10: 3.10.79, longterm 3.4: 3.4.107, longterm 3.2: 3.2.69, longterm 2.6.32: 2.6.32.67, linux-next: next-20150604 |
| 03:00.36 | future28 | karlpinc: I'm in stretch currently, will have a look. Thanks |
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| 03:01.22 | karlpinc | ,kernel |
| 03:01.23 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
| 03:01.57 | future28 | karlpinc: I suppose I could just upgrade to unstable and see how I manage |
| 03:02.25 | karlpinc | future28: Since you're running strech I'd expect (without really knowing what I'm talking about) that the 4.0 kernel from sid will be in strech soon. |
| 03:02.40 | karlpinc | future28: Otherwise see the <ssb> factoid. |
| 03:03.08 | future28 | karlpinc: Yeah that's true, though how long "soon" is is another thing alltogether :) |
| 03:03.10 | karlpinc | future28: You do not want to be running unstable. |
| 03:03.25 | future28 | karlpinc: Okay yeah, that's fair |
| 03:04.07 | future28 | Is there any way I can tell how far away the kernel is from stretch? |
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| 03:05.14 | karlpinc | future28: Yes, but I don't know what it is. There's some sort of policy, and then an auto-timeout if things work. And there's always the possiblity that things _won't_ work and the timer starts over. There's some docs either in the developer section of debian.org or maybe wiki.debian.org. |
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| 03:06.48 | Nautilus | in the example at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/FileSystemPermissions the find command is used to run chmod. Is that because chmod doesn't have it's own file & dir options? (I'm not seeing those in 'man chmod') |
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| 03:08.22 | polyphagia | nickypesos has been PMing people in here |
| 03:08.37 | polyphagia | 22:07:24 nickypesos | I just wanted to make sure you go to heaven when you die, the bible says we're not good enough to make it to heaven, so we |
| 03:08.40 | polyphagia | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:08.44 | future28 | karlpinc: Yep I see, thanks again! |
| 03:08.46 | polyphagia | this is the only channel i'm in that he's also in |
| 03:08.50 | polyphagia | !ops nickypesos |
| 03:08.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: polyphagia complains about: nickypesos |
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| 03:10.50 | head8debian | polyphagia: The ops in here can do nothing. |
| 03:11.20 | polyphagia | i know they can't stop him from pming me but they can stop him from coming in here to find more people to spam |
| 03:12.02 | Nautilus | might also give a heads up in #freenode |
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| 03:15.58 | soundtoxin | kernels are supposed to come in dist-upgrades aren't they? I've been on 3.16 for as long as I can remember |
| 03:16.30 | Nautilus | is that sample at http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/FileSystemPermissions a good way to chmod just files or just dirs? Anyone care to help me understand some of that syntax? |
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| 03:19.45 | Nautilus | so quiet in here |
| 03:20.15 | head8debian | :P |
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| 03:20.36 | head8debian | How can i help when i have no clue? |
| 03:20.57 | Nautilus | s'alright :) |
| 03:20.58 | head8debian | maybe i do, im ooking. |
| 03:21.10 | head8debian | Oh,in apache. I have no clue. :p |
| 03:21.26 | Nautilus | i just want to recurse dirs to chmod files and dirs, but not to the same thing. |
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| 03:22.47 | Nautilus | its not apache specific though, general unix where some distros might have minor diffs |
| 03:23.33 | future28 | Nautilus: Only easy way I can think of is using python, do an os.walk() as it can distinguish dirs and files |
| 03:23.49 | future28 | Nautilus: I'm sure there's an easier way though :) |
| 03:24.00 | karlpinc | Nautilus: You want to use find with either -t d or -t f (iirc.) |
| 03:24.08 | Nautilus | oy, that's what I was thinking. it looks like that find command will do it, |
| 03:24.09 | karlpinc | Nautilus: And -exec |
| 03:24.30 | Nautilus | I'm looking at the bottom example here: http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/FileSystemPermissions |
| 03:25.01 | Nautilus | can you explain a couple things there? Is find recursive by it's nature? |
| 03:25.14 | karlpinc | Nautilus: Yes. |
| 03:25.48 | Nautilus | ok. any chance you know what the {} and /; mean? That kind of looks like a function call with an odd terminator |
| 03:26.04 | karlpinc | Nautilus: You could try "info find" for a tutorial. (But you'd have to know the basics of info, like q to quit and space to go forward. |
| 03:26.28 | karlpinc | Nautilus: {} means whatever's found. \; means end the -exec. |
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| 03:28.47 | Nautilus | karlpinc: ahhh, {} means to replace this spot for the chmod command with each item found with find? the /; exec terminator makes sense now. |
| 03:28.56 | Nautilus | \; |
| 03:30.55 | karlpinc | yes. |
| 03:31.27 | karlpinc | Nautilus: The |
| 03:31.56 | karlpinc | The \ is just there so the shell does not recognize the ; as special. ';' would work as well. |
| 03:32.35 | Nautilus | like an escape char |
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| 03:35.27 | Nautilus | in the past I've seen a chmod value like 2750 where the 2 has a special meaning. I want to make sure that new files created in my paths get expected permissions, and I think that has something to do with it? Not even sure what to call it to google myself. |
| 03:35.50 | karlpinc | Nautilus: man chmod |
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| 03:37.15 | karlpinc | Nautilus: You could also google "user private groups". There's a wiki.debian.org page. |
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| 03:38.26 | Nautilus | I took a lookk there but might have missed it, looking again. btw a google for chmod 2750 did lead me to info that its about setguid |
| 03:38.27 | karlpinc | Nautilus: (I don't know what the default debian umask is these days.) |
| 03:38.46 | dnsk_ | hi |
| 03:39.03 | karlpinc | Nautilus: The setgid bit is part of the user private groups idiom. |
| 03:39.19 | karlpinc | Nautilus: "man chmod" will tell you what it does. |
| 03:39.26 | Nautilus | lookin |
| 03:39.33 | karlpinc | Nautilus: But you need the right umask too. |
| 03:39.43 | Nautilus | ugh <g> |
| 03:39.53 | Nautilus | maybe I'm going down a path I dont need |
| 03:40.06 | karlpinc | You could tell us what you're trying to do. |
| 03:40.37 | Nautilus | ok |
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| 03:43.15 | Nautilus | I have a dir where I want to allow apache (erm, php actually?) to create dirs files, and I want to make sure those have the permissions I desire. |
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| 03:44.17 | Nautilus | iow, I dont know how a programatically created file gets it's permissions |
| 03:44.42 | karlpinc | Nautilus: What permissions do you want? |
| 03:45.43 | p0wersploit | How to make logs stop spamming me with Glib and gnome session errors that aren't actually a problem ? |
| 03:45.49 | karlpinc | Nautilus: Ownership is determined by the creator's identity, permissions by umask. Probably best to just set the umask in your php script or set the permissions explicitly. |
| 03:45.50 | dnsk_ | hey can anyone provide me with a solution why my Iceweasel is playing Youtube HTML5 video in mp4 instead of WebM, it is causing an issue when I replay it, the video is distorted and fuzzy. Photographic evidence - https://lut.im/WdjqUwPK/1w8iqnCV ; right click on Stats for nerds to see it |
| 03:46.00 | Nautilus | for files in there, 660 is likely, but does that matter for the discussion of making them sticky? |
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| 03:47.14 | karlpinc | Nautilus: You're not reading the chmod man page. The setgid bit on a directory causes the group of a new file to be the group of the directory. |
| 03:48.18 | karlpinc | Nautilus: Instead of the group of the creator. |
| 03:48.35 | Nautilus | reading and grokking are two different things, thanks for showing a useful note from it. |
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| 03:50.39 | karlpinc | dnsk_: No clue. A random thought is to make sure you've all the right codecs installed. But that's out of ignorance. |
| 03:51.21 | dnsk_ | karlpinc, which codecs? ugly/bad? |
| 03:52.50 | karlpinc | dnsk_: I've absolutely no idea. All I know is that video codecs are in the stock debian repo. I assume all the useful ones are there. Possibly backports.debian.org is required, or not. |
| 03:53.29 | dnsk_ | karlpinc, no no no no no no, one dude is using same installation as me but having no issues at all, and his videos are being played in WebM |
| 03:53.45 | karlpinc | dnsk_: You could try a search for WebM. |
| 03:53.51 | karlpinc | !tell dnsk_ about search |
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| 03:54.47 | karlpinc | dnsk_: Or maybe you need some non-free firmware for your video card. Or even a non-free driver. Or maybe just the right driver. Just to get the right frame rate. (All this sounds unlikely.) Sorry, really don't know much about video. |
| 03:55.04 | dnsk_ | karlpinc, I am using Intel graphics which are supported right way? |
| 03:55.16 | karlpinc | dnsk_: I'd think so. |
| 03:55.36 | dnsk_ | karlpinc, I just installed ugly but it is not change anything |
| 03:55.56 | Nautilus | are you viewing the same video? I'm not sure youtube has all files html5 ready, so if you're testing with something obscure maybe that's an issue. |
| 03:56.32 | Nautilus | iirc yt makes decisions what to deliver you |
| 03:56.59 | dnsk_ | Nautilus, Bad Blood by Taylor Swift is video/webm in Tor Browser / FF ESR 31 / Abrowser anything only in my Iceweasel it is video/mp4 I don't have flash or anything I use main repo only its default setup |
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| 03:57.07 | H4wx | salutations |
| 03:57.29 | dnsk_ | karlpinc, Can you please try Bad Blood by Taylor Swift? |
| 03:57.40 | dnsk_ | Nautilus, you too? |
| 03:57.41 | karlpinc | dnsk_: Maybe ask again later when the non-ignorant are here. Often daytime weekdays are good. |
| 03:58.58 | Nautilus | dont think I'd be any help either |
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| 04:00.03 | dnsk_ | so debian is not a helping community anymore? |
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| 04:00.26 | Nautilus | i'm new to debian |
| 04:00.47 | dnsk_ | karlpinc, https://www.youtube.com/html5 and check if you have h.264 enabled |
| 04:00.52 | karlpinc | And I don't do video. And the rest of the people in here have a life. |
| 04:01.00 | Nautilus | and I know I sorted out YT issues one time (windows and/or ubuntu, I forget) and it wasn't fun, so good luck. |
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| 04:03.27 | dnsk_ | cmon man |
| 04:03.30 | dnsk_ | I am tired of this |
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| 04:04.49 | socomm | dnsk_: Whats the question? |
| 04:05.21 | dnsk_ | hey can anyone provide me with a solution why my Iceweasel is playing Youtube HTML5 video in mp4 instead of WebM, it is causing an issue when I replay it, the video is distorted and fuzzy. Photographic evidence - https://lut.im/WdjqUwPK/1w8iqnCV ; right click on Stats for nerds to see it |
| 04:05.23 | dnsk_ | socomm, ^ |
| 04:06.23 | socomm | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:06.33 | dnsk_ | socomm, Do you have Iceweasel and access to Youtube? Play Bad Blood by Taylor Swift, right click Nerd stats and then tell me what is t here in Mime type: |
| 04:06.36 | socomm | Chances are you'll probably end up there to file a bugreport. |
| 04:06.55 | socomm | dnsk_: I was with you up until the crappy music bit. :^| |
| 04:07.34 | dnsk_ | I think I have reinstall it all |
| 04:07.36 | dnsk_ | whole of Debian |
| 04:07.43 | dnsk_ | because others are not facing this issue |
| 04:07.52 | dnsk_ | zykotick9, did not face it |
| 04:09.07 | karlpinc | dnsk_: I doubt you need to do a re-install. |
| 04:09.49 | dnsk_ | then what is the problem |
| 04:09.50 | dnsk_ | why me |
| 04:10.10 | socomm | dnsk_: How do you know its isolated to you? |
| 04:11.33 | karlpinc | Yeah. It's probably everybody with the same mouse as you. We all know Taylor Swift hates mice. |
| 04:11.35 | dnsk_ | socomm, What do you mean? I don't know. I installed ugly plugin as well |
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| 04:11.45 | dnsk_ | lol |
| 04:12.16 | dnsk_ | I assume the problem is Iceweasel since no one else is even willing to play it |
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| 04:12.21 | dnsk_ | except for zykotick9 did |
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| 04:12.52 | karlpinc | dnsk_: Bad assumption. Why don't you pretend I'm on a 28.8Kbps modem and let it go at that. |
| 04:13.48 | dnsk_ | hehe ok |
| 04:13.53 | dnsk_ | but only that you ain't |
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| 04:52.26 | maziar | how to read older "wall" msg on debian ? |
| 04:52.30 | p0wersploit | mv is refusing to overwrite a file, even with -f and such specified |
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| 04:55.40 | phy1729 | what's the error? |
| 04:55.58 | phy1729 | bets it's across filesystems |
| 04:56.11 | p0wersploit | cannot move: File exists |
| 04:56.19 | p0wersploit | I have never been told such a thing |
| 04:56.32 | p0wersploit | read man page and turned on every argument to force |
| 04:56.35 | p0wersploit | still says that |
| 04:56.45 | p0wersploit | It's in my home folder, there shouldn't be permission issue |
| 04:57.04 | phy1729 | can you just delete the destination? |
| 04:57.42 | p0wersploit | yeah |
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| 04:57.52 | p0wersploit | I just am curious why that would happen |
| 04:57.58 | p0wersploit | google isn't telling me much |
| 04:58.02 | phy1729 | grep the source? |
| 04:59.02 | p0wersploit | I went ahead and removed it then moved |
| 04:59.07 | p0wersploit | But I don't get it :P |
| 04:59.16 | p0wersploit | If I could rm -rf then it obviously wasn't permissions |
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| 05:00.05 | p0wersploit | It must be something with conky manager...because the one I replaced .conky with just got overwritten |
| 05:00.10 | p0wersploit | by the original >_< |
| 05:00.19 | p0wersploit | I had one full of themes to replace it with |
| 05:02.11 | p0wersploit | Maybe root will have luck with it |
| 05:02.12 | p0wersploit | :-/ |
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| 05:02.36 | phy1729 | well it's not the BSD or FSF mv as neither has that error |
| 05:02.58 | p0wersploit | I've never had this error in my life |
| 05:03.03 | p0wersploit | I don't know what the issue is |
| 05:03.28 | p0wersploit | can't mv * inside the folder either, it's like 2 themes that are causing it |
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| 05:03.37 | p0wersploit | guess I can go around those 2 but what a pain |
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| 05:03.43 | maziar_ | how to read older "wall" msg on debian ? |
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| 05:42.09 | folivora | That should start 10 processes right = |
| 05:42.35 | folivora | but only 6 processes are started |
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| 05:56.36 | future28 | Hey, can anyone help? gnome 3, my touchpad wont right click (thinkpad x1 carbon) - I have been messing trying to get trackpoint working and now it's all fubar :( |
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| 05:56.57 | future28 | 2 finger 'tap' will right click, but my entire touchpad is like a single button now |
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| 06:07.43 | polyphagia | future28: there are no physical buttons? |
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| 06:11.20 | future28 | polyphagia: the pad itself is a button |
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| 06:12.23 | future28 | polyphagia: I was trying to get the trackpoint buttons working to no avail but in the process I have ruined the pads config (I assume it had some sort of boundary set up where if I was on the right of said boundary a right click would be issued, or if 2 fingers clicked then the same thing) |
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| 06:23.02 | Utils | Hopefully this is a quick one. I have an attached screen session that I need to get into however if I type "screen -D" in terminal, it turns into a multi-line command and doesn't get executed. Anyone know why? |
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| 06:29.26 | Walex | future28: there are several tools to set/reset 'synaptics' driver configuration |
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| 06:31.07 | future28 | Walex: reset would be great, it wasn't bad when I first got the laptop |
| 06:31.12 | Walex | maziar_: 'wall' messages do not need to be "read", they are written to every open 'tty' device, they just appear on your screen. |
| 06:31.57 | Walex | future28: the basic command is 'synclient' |
| 06:33.27 | Utils | Okay, it appears due to a crashed vim process on a particular screen session, I cannot seem to do detach or kill the screen process containing the vim process. |
| 06:33.32 | Utils | Any ideas how to fix this lmao |
| 06:33.41 | future28 | Walex: Thanks, trying to find how I can reset |
| 06:34.08 | future28 | Utils: Can't you just log into a new session and pkill screen? |
| 06:34.22 | Walex | future28: also gnome-mouse-properties and/or gpointing-device-settings |
| 06:34.28 | HotCoder | if my dick came chocolate syrup would any of the girls here drink that? |
| 06:34.32 | future28 | Utils: Oh you probably have other sessions running |
| 06:34.46 | Utils | i did a pkill lol |
| 06:35.02 | Walex | Utils: that's unlikely |
| 06:35.39 | Walex | Utils: try to kill with '-9' |
| 06:35.49 | future28 | Walex: gpointing* is not a package found, when I try to apt-add the ppa it fails |
| 06:35.54 | Walex | Utils: 'ps xuf | grep -i screen' |
| 06:35.58 | future28 | Same deal for gnome-mouse* |
| 06:36.06 | Walex | future28: those are commands... |
| 06:36.08 | Utils | as i said i did a pkill. i did: pkill -15 screen |
| 06:36.18 | Utils | sucks because my chat server died and i couldn't get in to access it either so couldnt' see teh error. oh well |
| 06:36.20 | Walex | Utils: if you know better... |
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| 06:37.12 | future28 | Walex: regardless, neither exist on my system |
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| 06:39.06 | Walex | future28: thanks for letting us know :-) |
| 06:39.34 | future28 | Walex: The point is, I'm unable to use either of those applications |
| 06:39.52 | future28 | So I'm a bit stuck. I wonder how the initial config file is generated when I put deb on the machine |
| 06:41.33 | Walex | future28: if you don't want to install them, it is your choice, and thanks for informing us of that choice. |
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| 06:42.45 | future28 | Walex: I cannot install them... |
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| 06:54.00 | future28 | Walex: I cannot meet dependencies on testing |
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| 07:01.54 | Walex | future28: if you are using "testing" you should ask in #Debian-next on irc.debian.org |
| 07:02.30 | Walex | future28: that's the channel for discussion among very advanced developers |
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| 07:04.18 | Walex | future28: "how the initial config file is generated" perhaps there is no initial config file |
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| 07:55.23 | joegiampaoli | Can anyone tell me if it's safe to blacklist sata_nv? It's sharing IRQ 23 with USB2 and I need USB2 for my USB Audio device, it gives me very predictable dropouts. |
| 07:56.20 | joegiampaoli | This is in Debian Wheezy, specifically for audio work... |
| 07:56.47 | joegiampaoli | Not my main everyday installation |
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| 08:04.00 | p0wersploit | pretty simple to unblacklist if it goes wrong |
| 08:04.07 | p0wersploit | I'd say just try it |
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| 08:06.50 | at0m|c | joegiampaoli: rmmod it first. see what fails, and weither you need it |
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| 08:07.02 | at0m|c | then if all works, blacklist |
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| 08:08.59 | joegiampaoli | at0m|c: if I do that and I get"can't remove it, because it's in use" is that a bad sign? I'm trying to also figure out how to assign a different IRQ to USB2 |
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| 08:09.39 | at0m|c | see what uses the sata_nv. is that critical modules? if not, rmmod them |
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| 08:10.09 | at0m|c | the BIOS might have some IRQ settings |
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| 08:11.16 | at0m|c | also, do you have other ports on another USB2 controller? |
| 08:11.30 | at0m|c | maybe these don't share with the sata_nv |
| 08:12.57 | at0m|c | it helps to give usb audio it's own controller. do not put midi devices or others on the same controller |
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| 08:15.25 | joegiampaoli | at0m|c: Ok, I'll check that out and try rmmod first. You just made me think, maybe I can change IRQ in Bios! Thanks! :) |
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| 08:31.40 | Fjorgynn | Windows |
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| 08:32.33 | frthtfh | Indeed. |
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| 09:11.24 | cybrNaut | the "jessie" version of gnucash broke ledger |
| 09:11.55 | cybrNaut | anyone know what version of gnucash is compatible with the latest jessie release of ledger? |
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| 09:18.53 | at0m|c | ,v gnucash |
| 09:18.54 | judd | Package: gnucash on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.2.9-10; squeeze-backports: 1:2.4.10-2~bpo60+2; wheezy: 1:2.4.10-6; wheezy-backports: 1:2.6.4-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:2.6.4-3; sid: 1:2.6.6-1; stretch: 1:2.6.6-1 |
| 09:19.45 | at0m|c | ,v ledger |
| 09:19.46 | judd | Package: ledger on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.2-2.1; wheezy: 2.6.2-3.1; wheezy-backports: 3.0.0+dfsg3-1~bpo70+1; sid: 3.1+dfsg1-2; jessie: 3.1+dfsg1-2; stretch: 3.1+dfsg1-2 |
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| 09:21.03 | cybrNaut | at0m|c: thanks, but the official info sources will not have the answer to this |
| 09:21.24 | cybrNaut | only someone who uses the two packages would know what is compatible with what |
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| 09:23.12 | talsin | hi, i'm looking for the source package for an old no longer distributed package called MCL, it's a "mud client", any clues where i can search for this ? |
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| 09:28.48 | TheNumb | talsin: there might be a source tarball on gentoo mirrors |
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| 09:29.31 | TheNumb | talsin: like http://distfiles.gentoo.org/mcl-12-135.tar.gz |
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| 09:29.44 | TheNumb | talsin: http://distfiles.gentoo.org/distfiles/mcl-12-135.tar.gz |
| 09:29.44 | jelly | talsin: if it was in debian at some point, the source will be present somewhere on archive.debian.org |
| 09:30.14 | TheNumb | There's also mcl-08-312.tar.gz and mcl-0.53.00-src.tar.gz |
| 09:30.28 | talsin | thank you i will go look :-) |
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| 09:36.50 | talsin | yeah a lot of search results bring up MCL as Markov Cluster Algorithm, which seems to have hijacked the name now that the mud client is no longer active |
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| 10:09.16 | Latrina | Hello.. what's the sate of debian MIPS ?? |
| 10:10.29 | Latrina | does it has it's own prebuilt MIPS kernel ? |
| 10:10.44 | Latrina | what I want to achive is to run debian on cheap routers / APs that are OpenWRT suported |
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| 10:11.19 | Latrina | so I am wondering if I should proceed with the DebainWRT installation way that uses the OpenWRT preint to chroot Debian |
| 10:11.46 | Latrina | or if I could boot a debian installation and use it's own kernel |
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| 12:24.19 | TrFaSu | help! /bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off. while working my desktop froze and was showing this error during reboot. HELP! |
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| 12:28.22 | Walex | TrFaSu: our psychic advisors are sort of busy ruight now... |
| 12:28.54 | TrFaSu | Walex; ok. |
| 12:29.44 | Walex | TrFaSu: very many errors can be shown during boot, and very many things can cause desktops to freeze. |
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| 12:33.59 | TrFaSu | Walex; but i m not getting back my login cred.. it just stops there. it has happened first time with me. |
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| 12:38.59 | Walex | TrFaSu: does it stop at "/bin/sh: cant access tty: job control turned off"? |
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| 12:39.21 | Walex | TrFaSu: is that literally the last line that appears on the screen? |
| 12:40.12 | TrFaSu | then it shows an initramfs terminal |
| 12:40.31 | TrFaSu | actually i lost control to my normal shell |
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| 12:41.25 | Walex | TrFaSu: perhaps you should really wait for our psychic advisors to get back to you, as you seem rather good at lying as to what is the actual state of your system. |
| 12:41.53 | ectospasm | I have an issue with tmux on Jessie. I'm trying to launch a named tmux session if it's not already open, and then launch offlineimap in that tmux session. If I run this script: https://paste.debian.net/205532/ from my zsh shell, it doesn't work. If I paste the contents of that script to the shell, it works. |
| 12:42.02 | TrFaSu | walex: lying.. |
| 12:42.09 | Walex | TrFaSu: which makes it impossible for non-psyhic people to try and figure out that the problem might be. |
| 12:42.50 | TrFaSu | Walex: wait |
| 12:42.56 | Walex | TrFaSu: one could say misdescribing... |
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| 12:45.01 | TrFaSu | Walex: sending an image |
| 12:45.45 | Walex | ectospasm: you are next in the queue for the psychic advisors just after <TrFaSu>. |
| 12:46.37 | Walex | ectospasm: they will be able to figure out what you mean by "it doesn't work" |
| 12:46.56 | bolt | Wine 1.6.2 in jessie on a 32-bit system doesn't seem to run any 32-bit windows programs anymore. All I get is "Bad EXE format", for applications that ran fine on Wheezy. |
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| 12:48.04 | ectospasm | Walex: OK, it doesn't run offlineimap in the tmux session, though if I run the contents of the script in the shell, it does. |
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| 12:48.24 | ectospasm | Sorry, it's early on a Saturday morning |
| 12:48.26 | Walex | ectospasm: and what happens instead? |
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| 12:48.41 | ectospasm | Walex: absolutely nothing in the tmux session |
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| 12:48.55 | dokma | I've been crossgradin my desktop to amd64 for the past 10 hours... |
| 12:49.01 | dokma | I'm stuck at dash |
| 12:49.13 | Walex | ectospasm: we are not getting much further... |
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| 12:49.25 | dokma | Can't get it to go i386 -> amd64 no matter what I try. Google gives nothing... |
| 12:49.56 | Walex | ectospasm: what does "tmux send -t offlineimap" say instead of "it doesn't work"? |
| 12:50.29 | Walex | dokma: i386 and amd64 are different and incompatible architectures and you cannot upgrade from one to another. |
| 12:51.14 | ectospasm | Walex: It says it launches in the existing window, but doesn't actually launch offlineimap if I run it from the script. If I run tmux send from the shell (outside of the script), it works as expected, running offlineimap in the desired tmux session. |
| 12:52.07 | Walex | ectospasm: if it says that it has launched in the existing window then it has done so, I would not suspect 'tmux' to lie about that. |
| 12:52.48 | ectospasm | Walex: right, but I'm monitoring the tmux session in another urxvt tab, and nothing happens if I run it from the script. |
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| 12:53.14 | dokma | Walex, I'm crossgrading as already mentioned |
| 12:53.40 | dokma | almost done, dash is giving me probs |
| 12:54.13 | ectospasm | Walex: the same script works as expected in OS X, and I don't know what's different (other than the paths to tmux and offlineimap) |
| 12:54.58 | Walex | dokma: cross-grading is a figment of the imagination of whoever wrote that page... |
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| 12:55.41 | Walex | ectospasm: obviously something else is happening... |
| 12:56.13 | dokma | Walex, well, I'm running amd64 for today. Yesterday it was i386. Not at all imaginary. Just rather painful to do. |
| 12:56.27 | Walex | dokma: if you know better... |
| 12:56.36 | dokma | still stuck on dash though |
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| 12:57.47 | ectospasm | Walex: obviously |
| 12:59.09 | AdorableGNU | You say painful... I say fun. |
| 12:59.20 | Walex | ectospasm: for example I am not totally sure that you are aware of how 'tmux' sessions etc. really are meant to work, or even the shell. |
| 13:00.00 | Walex | ectospasm: for example, how sure are you that 'tmux send' always happens after the session creation has finished? |
| 13:00.15 | ectospasm | Walex: I understand that I'm not an expert (like my ps and list-sessions usage probably demonstrates) |
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| 13:01.22 | Walex | ectospasm: then perhaps asking a question either here or in the #tmux channel like "I am trying to do .... and this is how I am doing it currently ... and this is the result I am getting instead ...." might be more useful. |
| 13:01.31 | Walex | ectospasm: what are you trying to achieve? |
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| 13:01.55 | ectospasm | Walex: well, it's supposed to run in the already-created tmux session. I've already asked in #tmux, and I haven't gotten a response. |
| 13:01.59 | Walex | ectospasm: do you just want to "wrap" the 'offlineimap' process inside a newly created 'tmux' session? |
| 13:02.24 | ectospasm | Newly created, or already existing. |
| 13:02.26 | Walex | ectospasm: do you think that tmux session creation is absolutely instantaneous? |
| 13:03.05 | ectospasm | the list-session lines should determine if the tmux session is already created and not try to create it if it already exists. |
| 13:03.32 | Walex | ectospasm: the early morning seems to be affecting your... |
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| 13:04.05 | ectospasm | My what? You know your snarkiness is not appreciated. |
| 13:04.33 | Walex | ectospasm: your deductions. |
| 13:04.56 | Walex | ectospasm: suppose you do 'tmux new-session'. How long do you expect it to take? 0 microsends? |
| 13:05.17 | Walex | ectospasm: but never mind. |
| 13:05.31 | ectospasm | Walex: same code works on OS X without a pause, so... |
| 13:05.53 | ectospasm | And besides, new-session shouldn't get run if the named tmux session already exists. |
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| 13:07.28 | ectospasm | As I've said before, if I paste the contents of the script directly into the shell, it works as expected, offlineimap gets run in the desired tmux session. |
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| 13:11.09 | Walex | ectospasm: if you know better... |
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| 13:15.50 | ectospasm | Walex: I fixed it. I put #!/bin/bash as the first line of the script, and it works. Must have been running either sh or zsh. |
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| 13:17.30 | ectospasm | Walex: thank you for working with me on this, I know it was difficult. |
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| 13:30.51 | cybrNaut | i need to downgrade gnucash |
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| 13:31.18 | cybrNaut | it's dependant on a lot of lower level stuff like "libc6" |
| 13:31.24 | Walex | ectospasm: as far as your script is concerned BASH and ZSH are equivalent, but of course you know better :-). |
| 13:31.58 | ectospasm | Walex: yeah, that's why I also said sh |
| 13:32.18 | cybrNaut | the concern is that other packages may be dependant on the lower level stuff that will also need to be downgraded from jessie to wheezy |
| 13:32.25 | cybrNaut | how can I find out? |
| 13:32.51 | Walex | cybrNaut: use the '--dry-run' parameter |
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| 13:35.13 | cybrNaut | Walex: if i --dry-run the removal of gnucash, some of the lower level stuff is not removed. I suppose that means something else needs them? Do I then need to do a "why" command on each of them? |
| 13:35.48 | cybrNaut | and how might I know if downgrading versions of the lower level packages break other packages at the same level? |
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| 13:38.06 | cybrNaut | "aptitude why libc6" does not mention gnucash |
| 13:38.17 | cybrNaut | so that cannot be trusted |
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| 13:38.30 | cybrNaut | i need a dependency tree |
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| 13:49.47 | Walex | cybrNaut: that yearning for a dependency tree is a bit ambitious |
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| 13:50.33 | Walex | cybrNaut: and you may want to study APT and in particularly Aptitude more, as Aptitude sort of gives a folding view of forward and reverse dependencies. |
| 13:51.03 | Walex | cybrNaut: also, given your goals, you should '--dry-run' not the removal of 'gnucash', but its downgrade. |
| 13:51.21 | Walex | cybrNaut: also, 'libc6' is a package tagged "essential". |
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| 13:52.16 | cybrNaut | Walex: "essential", as in essential to gnucash? |
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| 13:52.25 | themill | (libc6 is not an Essential:yes package) |
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| 13:53.25 | Walex | cybrNaut: essential to packages tagged 'Essential:yes'. |
| 13:53.27 | jaythelinuxguy | Hello everyone. I'm curious whether or not anyone has an 802.11AC card, and has achieved 802.11 speeds in Jessie. I have an Intel 7260 rev bb card, with iwlwifi installed. I basically get N speeds. |
| 13:54.04 | Walex | cybrNaut: aptitude search '~E' |
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| 13:54.32 | Walex | cybrNaut: then for example: apt-get depends libc-bin |
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| 13:55.49 | Walex | cybrNaut: then for example: apt-cache depends libc-bin |
| 13:57.27 | cybrNaut | looks like a wheezy version of gnucash cannot be installed in jessie, right? |
| 13:57.38 | Walex | cybrNaut: apt-get install --dry-run gnucash=$VERSION |
| 13:57.46 | cybrNaut | am I better off to make a wheezy virtual box? |
| 13:57.46 | themill | cybrNaut: why not? |
| 13:57.49 | Walex | cybrNaut: I would be suprised if it were not possible |
| 13:58.05 | Walex | cybrNaut: and you could make a 7/Wheezy 'chroot' or similar |
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| 13:58.49 | dokma | I've managed to vandalize dash and bash into crossgrading by manually editing dpkg database and marking the as uninstalled. Feels like playing russian roulette.. |
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| 13:58.57 | cybrNaut | themill: this libc6 dependency seems to be a problem. if libc6 were to be downgraded, it would have a big impact |
| 13:59.07 | themill | cybrNaut: there is no need to do that |
| 13:59.12 | Walex | cybrNaut: usually packages have dependencies like '>= $VERSION' so in general they work with any newer versions. |
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| 14:00.09 | Walex | dokma: what you call "crossgrading" is not supported or tested and if it works it is in effect a reinstallation as if done with 'deboostrap'. |
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| 14:00.23 | Walex | dokma: but today is the day where IRC users always know better :-) |
| 14:00.50 | dokma | Walex, that's exactly what I'm doing. Crossgrading sounds like a nice name for it... |
| 14:01.08 | themill | !crossgrade |
| 14:01.08 | dpkg | Converting an i386 installation into an amd64 installation in-place is quite difficult. It's much easier to reinstall the system with the new architecture -- ask me about <install debian>. If you've got good backups, plenty of time and are feeling lucky, you can try http://nanonanonano.net/linux/debian/crossgrading but really... good backups... |
| 14:01.13 | dokma | Walex, btw you're an IRC user aswell. Pay attention to logic or it will bite your ass. |
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| 14:01.59 | dokma | I'm finally back to my XFCE desktop... |
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| 14:03.47 | antoon | Greeting fellow debian users. I'm in a pickle that you might help me with. I've successfully mounted a directory /disk2 from another server in the network, but I'm having troubles making it writable for all users. F.ex. so I can logon to the user foo and move files to it, so it gets synced to the server. Any ideas? :( |
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| 14:03.55 | cybrNaut | i tried "aptitude --simulate install gnucash=1:2.4.10-6" and got "Unable to find a version "1:2.4.10-6" for the package "gnucash"" |
| 14:04.20 | dokma | antoon, with fuse or something else? |
| 14:04.23 | cybrNaut | Walex: do I need to change my sources.list from jessie to wheezy and update first? |
| 14:06.51 | themill | cybrNaut: how else would apt know about that version? (mixing releases is completely unsupportable... what you're trying to do will probably work but...) |
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| 14:07.49 | antoon | Euuh, without fuse, dokma |
| 14:08.09 | dokma | antoon, how did you mount? |
| 14:08.13 | cybrNaut | themill: i don't think there is a supportable way to fix my problem. That is, gnucash and ledger were compatible with each other in Wheezy, but not in Jessie. |
| 14:08.33 | antoon | mount -t cifs //serverip/folder /disk2 -o username=xxx,password=xxx dokma |
| 14:08.55 | cybrNaut | I suppose removing jessie and installing wheezy would be the supportable way to fix this.. but how much longer will wheezy be supported? |
| 14:09.10 | dokma | antoon, don't have experience with that mate. good luck |
| 14:09.34 | antoon | Ah, bummer indeed. Thanks anyway though |
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| 14:16.37 | Walex | cybrNaut: you can add to sources the 7/Wheezy archive, and ideally you would also "pin" it lower, but that's probably redundant. |
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| 14:17.53 | Walex | antoon: note that the syntax for 'mount -t cifs' and 'mount.cifs' are not necessarily the same. |
| 14:18.06 | antoon | Oh, yeah, I used mount.cifs |
| 14:18.14 | cybrNaut | Walex: thanks, that sounds less dramatic than what I was about to do (s/jessie/wheezy in sources.list) |
| 14:18.25 | Walex | cybrNaut: you can just duplicate the lines. |
| 14:18.37 | Walex | cybrNaut: and then so the 's' to just one set |
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| 14:19.39 | cybrNaut | Walex: not sure what you mean by "s to just one set" |
| 14:20.06 | cybrNaut | so i dupe each line in sources, change jessie to wheezy, then aptitude update, right? |
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| 14:22.34 | antoon | i seem to have fixed it by moving the crontab to root, Walex / dokma. I think that's better too though |
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| 14:23.18 | dokma | antoon, what do you do from crontab? |
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| 14:24.19 | antoon | well, backing up stuff. so i realized the .sh it's running may contain sensitive information, so i put it in roots homedir instead |
| 14:25.39 | roberth1990 | https://paste.debian.net/plain/205549 hmmmm what am I doing wrong? |
| 14:26.08 | dokma | antoon, that might be good/better. how did you make the folder writable for your users? |
| 14:26.45 | antoon | i didnt, only root had it writable (since it mounted it) |
| 14:26.58 | antoon | but the original idea was to have the backup script on an ordinary user |
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| 14:29.48 | themill | dpkg: tell roberth1990 about sudo redirection |
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| 14:30.23 | roberth1990 | themill: ah thanks |
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| 14:39.41 | dnsk_ | Hey |
| 14:39.44 | twinbeard | hello all. working on getting debian running completely on an Allwinner A80 box. |
| 14:39.54 | dnsk_ | How I can confirm if I have flash or not? |
| 14:40.10 | dokma | wow... seems like I'm emerging on the other side of my i386/amd64 "crossgrade" as Walex would insist :D |
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| 14:40.59 | mtn | dnsk_: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ |
| 14:41.15 | dnsk_ | mtn, wow |
| 14:41.18 | dnsk_ | ok |
| 14:41.19 | twinbeard | started by flashing a linaro image to onboard nand... this leaves like 10gb of space which i set up ext4 on, and debootstraped sid onto. after tweaking u-boot to use the new root fs, the system boots to a console. |
| 14:41.19 | dnsk_ | thanks |
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| 14:41.43 | dnsk_ | mtn, actually I can play some links that other people cannot play, since they say it needs flash [ |
| 14:41.51 | dnsk_ | but I don't have flash on my system |
| 14:41.53 | cybrNaut | Unable to find a version "1:2.4.10-6" for the package "gnucash" <= still doesn't work with wheezy added to sources.list |
| 14:41.54 | dnsk_ | Do you have flash? |
| 14:42.02 | karlpinc | twinbeard: sid? Why sid? |
| 14:42.09 | mtn | dnsk_: sure |
| 14:42.16 | dnsk_ | mtn, you have flash? |
| 14:42.39 | twinbeard | alas, xdm simply restarts when logging in as a user, and various processes run as a user from the console, like xauth or htop, simply give me 'killed' |
| 14:42.49 | twinbeard | sid, because i have been using sid forever and a day. |
| 14:42.54 | dnsk_ | zykotick9, Can you please play a link for me? and confirm if it shows that you need flash or it just plays in Iceweasel? |
| 14:42.55 | twinbeard | same thing with jessie, btw. |
| 14:43.33 | dnsk_ | maybe that is why I am getting this youtube thing |
| 14:43.36 | karlpinc | twinbeard: You know the drill. Look at dmesg and log output. |
| 14:43.48 | dnsk_ | I have reasons to believe now that i might have a forced flash somewhere lol |
| 14:43.49 | dnsk_ | :) |
| 14:43.52 | cybrNaut | oops.. i just realized i only added deb-src repos |
| 14:44.01 | mtn | dnsk_: what is the link? |
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| 14:44.04 | twinbeard | did do. dmesg gives me nothing of use, nor /var/log/messages |
| 14:44.15 | dnsk_ | mtn, see PM please |
| 14:44.17 | mtn | dnsk_: what did the link I sent you tell you? |
| 14:44.24 | dnsk_ | mtn, i don't use Flash |
| 14:44.27 | karlpinc | twinbeard: /var/log/X.log (or something) maybe? |
| 14:44.40 | twinbeard | startx as a user with no xdm running gives me 4 "killed" statements, and dies quietly |
| 14:44.40 | dnsk_ | I know but i want to know where someone has installed it on my system with me knowing it like a compromise etc |
| 14:44.47 | dnsk_ | I don't have it on my system at all |
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| 14:44.58 | dnsk_ | I think I am getting Youtube video/mp4 only because of it |
| 14:45.06 | dnsk_ | mtn, please see if that video requires flash |
| 14:45.07 | twinbeard | running X alone brings up a blank X server. |
| 14:45.22 | twinbeard | but does not die |
| 14:45.33 | mtn | dnsk_: it says it needs flash, then says "file not found" |
| 14:45.42 | karlpinc | twinbeard: I suppose you could strace the wonky programs and see if anything leaps out at you. |
| 14:45.42 | twinbeard | /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows little useful |
| 14:45.56 | dnsk_ | mtn, omg did you click on uhmm.. Proceed to video? |
| 14:46.00 | dnsk_ | in the bottom? |
| 14:46.10 | twinbeard | did strace too... nothing of consequence that i could see |
| 14:46.13 | mtn | dnsk_: of course |
| 14:46.20 | dnsk_ | mtn, OMG |
| 14:46.29 | dnsk_ | mtn, dude something is wrong with my system, I can play them all |
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| 14:46.56 | linuxthefish | does LVM encryption at the installer memu take advantage of the TPM module in my PC? |
| 14:46.56 | dnsk_ | I just have main repo with no flash thing installed at all |
| 14:47.02 | dnsk_ | how could it be possible, mtn? |
| 14:47.13 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: I doubt it. |
| 14:47.18 | linuxthefish | oh :( |
| 14:47.36 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: I could be wrong. |
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| 14:48.15 | twinbeard | aside from the kills, i get "xinit: connection to X server lost" from the spew with startx |
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| 14:49.13 | mtn | dnsk_: which version of flash is installed according to the link I sent you? |
| 14:49.14 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: IIRC TPM is for ensuring that the bootloader and other programs are signed by some cert the hardware trusts. I forget. Nothing really to do with encryption. |
| 14:49.27 | twinbeard | logging in via xdm or 'startx'ing as root produces a gui, but it seems the problem is not X related, but whatever is killing processes. |
| 14:49.33 | linuxthefish | ah ok, thanks karlpinc |
| 14:49.46 | twinbeard | scott@allwinner:~$ strace htop |
| 14:49.46 | twinbeard | execve("/usr/bin/htop", ["htop"], [/* 15 vars */] <unfinished ...> |
| 14:49.46 | twinbeard | +++ killed by SIGKILL +++ |
| 14:49.46 | twinbeard | Killed |
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| 14:49.49 | linuxthefish | oh |
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| 14:50.08 | linuxthefish | slaps twinbeard around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:50.15 | twinbeard | oops. sorry |
| 14:50.19 | twinbeard | !bongswat |
| 14:50.19 | dpkg | hmm... bongswat is "Hit the bong, man!" |
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| 14:50.59 | mtn | dnsk_: did you check out the link: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ ? |
| 14:51.13 | twinbeard | anyway, the htop process is just immediately killed |
| 14:51.27 | twinbeard | any ideas? anyone? bueller? bueller? |
| 14:51.40 | karlpinc | twinbeard: You might need to look at journalctl output. I don't think everything is logged anymore elsewhere. Don't know. Am still getting used to systemd. |
| 14:52.05 | twinbeard | ahh. i did apt-get remove systemd before the filesystem was used. |
| 14:52.20 | linuxthefish | twinbeard i don't have the scrollback sorry, but are you able to try reinstalling htop? |
| 14:52.29 | karlpinc | twinbeard: Good plan. :) |
| 14:52.40 | twinbeard | just shortly after debootstrap, i chrooted to the directory, and apt-get remove systemd |
| 14:52.41 | linuxthefish | good luck with systemd though, im installing a new machine today and first time using it |
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| 14:52.54 | Rudde | Why are they skipping kernel 3.19 and jump to kernel 4? |
| 14:53.03 | twinbeard | reinstall does not assist. htop is not the only effected application. |
| 14:53.09 | twinbeard | xauth as well, and a few others. |
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| 14:53.29 | karlpinc | Rudde: Maybe they tried 3.19, got tired of it, and moved on? |
| 14:53.32 | twinbeard | apt-get --purge remove htop && apt-get install htop produces no results. |
| 14:53.39 | twinbeard | no positive results. |
| 14:54.22 | Rudde | But kernel 3.19 have great features, why did they stay stuck in 3.16 for jessie? |
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| 14:54.49 | themill | changing the kernel isn't something you do 5 minutes prior to release |
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| 15:11.21 | cybrNaut | i tried: aptitude build-dep gnucash=1:2.4.10-6 && apt-get source gnucash=1:2.4.10-6 && cd gnucash-2.4.10 && ./configure |
| 15:11.41 | cybrNaut | the result => Cannot find SLIB. Are you sure you have it installed? |
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| 15:12.08 | roberth1990 | Rudde: because just upgrading the kernel often just introduces more problems which interferes with stability |
| 15:12.09 | cybrNaut | shouldn't "build-dep" have installed that, whatever it is? |
| 15:12.51 | cybrNaut | aptitude build-dep gave no problems.. installed all new packages, no conflicts |
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| 15:15.07 | SuperTramp83 | cbrpager doesn't work. any alternative? |
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| 15:15.59 | Rudde | But, but ubuntu uses it roberth1990 |
| 15:16.16 | roberth1990 | Rudde: ubuntu isn't debian |
| 15:17.42 | Rudde | Builds on the same princaples |
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| 15:17.42 | roberth1990 | ubuntu focuses on newer packages, debian focuses on older packages to make the system more stable |
| 15:17.49 | roberth1990 | Rudde: no they dont |
| 15:17.54 | Rudde | and a stable ubuntu I suppose would be a stable debian? |
| 15:18.00 | roberth1990 | no |
| 15:18.42 | Rudde | Well I really want BTRFS |
| 15:18.46 | roberth1990 | debian focuses way more on stability |
| 15:18.49 | Rudde | how can I get kernel 3.19.5 on debian? |
| 15:19.01 | roberth1990 | Rudde: btrfs isnt ready for use no matter how new kernel you use |
| 15:19.13 | Rudde | It's supposedly that on 3.19.5 |
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| 15:20.11 | roberth1990 | no it isnt |
| 15:20.29 | Rudde | Why not? |
| 15:20.32 | Rudde | Whats wrong with it? |
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| 15:20.48 | roberth1990 | featurewise maybe, but it isnt tested enough yet to have solved all potential issues |
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| 15:22.28 | roberth1990 | plus its performance sucls |
| 15:22.29 | roberth1990 | *sucks |
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| 15:23.48 | roberth1990 | anyway jessie will get newer kernels backportet |
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| 15:25.17 | tombee | When building a new kernel (as I want to pick up overlayfs support), how do I know which modules I need to enable? Is there any harm in enabling them all? |
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| 15:26.39 | pkmn | I have small problem with accessing phpmyadmin on Debian. Is this a right place to ask? |
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| 15:28.33 | at0m|c | pkmn: what's the exact problem? |
| 15:29.00 | at0m|c | the better you describe, the better the channel can help. |
| 15:29.18 | pkmn | I was trying to configure LAMP on debian 8 using debian wiki tutorial |
| 15:29.20 | pkmn | https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
| 15:29.44 | pkmn | when I try to acces localhost/phpmyadmin it works |
| 15:30.18 | pkmn | but when I try to localhost/~username/phpmyadmin it throws not found error |
| 15:30.36 | sixgod | move it to ~username folder |
| 15:30.45 | teraflop | ^ |
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| 15:31.29 | pkmn | public_html is allready in username folder, as per wiki instructions |
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| 15:32.05 | sixgod | put phpmyadmin folder in the ~username folder |
| 15:32.08 | pkmn | i can acces sites this way, just adding /phpmyadmin on the end dont work |
| 15:32.30 | SuperTramp83 | nevermind - installing unrar-free did the trick. evince now displays both cbz and cbr |
| 15:34.18 | pkmn | I created a symlink to public_html folder, it is working now |
| 15:34.20 | pkmn | thanks guys |
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| 15:40.23 | Rudde | roberth1990: I saw they where testing kernel 4, but not 3.19, does that mean we won't get 3.19 backports? |
| 15:40.48 | roberth1990 | Rudde: yes |
| 15:41.00 | Rudde | -.-' |
| 15:41.46 | roberth1990 | Rudde: why do you need exactly 3.19? |
| 15:42.04 | Rudde | beckaur my TV card drivers don't work so well with kernel 4 |
| 15:42.14 | Rudde | because. |
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| 15:43.24 | roberth1990 | Rudde: have you identified the bugs causing it? |
| 15:43.38 | Rudde | No |
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| 15:44.51 | twinbeard | arggghhhh! sorry. had to be done. |
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| 15:46.46 | roberth1990 | Rudde: stick to 3.16 |
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| 15:53.02 | snout | in a debian based system what directory are the wifi drivers in? |
| 15:55.08 | towo` | what should be a debian based system? |
| 15:55.31 | towo` | and drivers comes with the kernel as modules |
| 15:56.17 | snout | i have parrotOS running on macpro hardware |
| 15:56.27 | snout | trying to find the airport drivers / get at airport command |
| 15:56.37 | towo` | and here is #debian, so wrong channel |
| 15:56.54 | snout | it is based on debian. I am asking where drivers are in debian |
| 15:57.15 | towo` | but all drivers are in /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/drivers/foo |
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| 15:58.47 | snout | thanks. That's where I was looking. |
| 15:58.49 | snout | cheers. |
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| 16:08.45 | linuxthefish | why can't i type anything in the decrypt password box?? |
| 16:08.52 | linuxthefish | on boot up... |
| 16:09.43 | bla | Docker was on experimental once, on their page they write it's in the backports for jessie and yet it's only in stretch. How come? |
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| 16:13.34 | dnsk_ | zykotick9, I need you help please |
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| 16:14.21 | dnsk_ | Anyone with a Iceweasel and Main repo only default setup and no Flash please? |
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| 16:23.02 | roberth1990 | bla: ask in the backports irc channel |
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| 16:26.50 | at0m|c | linuxthefish: type away. it doesn't show **** or any characters |
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| 16:34.15 | karlpinc | linuxthefish: Proably because (iirc) you don't have plymouth installed. There's something in chapter 5 of the release notes. (Always read the release notes.) It says you can type the password anyway. |
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| 16:36.12 | linuxthefish | none of the keys work on that screen though |
| 16:36.27 | linuxthefish | even when it goes blank after no activity i can't bring it back |
| 16:36.33 | linuxthefish | grub is fine, and install system was fine |
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| 16:38.57 | freddy` | I have upgraded a relatively old system to jessie, now it doesn't boot very properly because of multiple systemd problems, it seems. I can't really inspect or debug those problems because it says it fails to connect to dbus. I don't think I really want dbus. I think the easiest way out for me would be to roll back to the old init system. would that work? |
| 16:40.10 | karlpinc | freddy`: Yes. Read the release notes. It says how to use the old init system. However, I got that error and it went away upon the first reboot. (The release notes also say to purge unused/obsolete packages. Did you do that?) |
| 16:40.41 | karlpinc | freddy`: It says to purge _before_ the first reboot. |
| 16:40.42 | dnsk_ | karlpinc, can you tell me if you have h.2xx support? youtube.com/html5 |
| 16:40.47 | dnsk_ | in iceweasel only please? |
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| 16:41.22 | freddy` | karlpinc: I may not have purged, let me look at the release notes... |
| 16:41.23 | karlpinc | dnsk_: I can't tell you. The hardware won't support it. |
| 16:41.47 | karlpinc | freddy`: But! Be sure not to purge before upgrading your databases. |
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| 16:42.24 | karlpinc | freddy`: Postgresql, and maybe mysql and others need the old packages unpurged in order to auto-upgrade. See their <readme.debian> files. |
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| 16:42.39 | freddy` | I dont use any of the listed obsolete packages on this server, especially no mysql,pgsql etc |
| 16:42.54 | karlpinc | freddy`: Then you're probably good. |
| 16:42.59 | freddy` | they may be installed, but I'm not to concerned about losing them ;) |
| 16:43.02 | freddy` | too* |
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| 16:43.29 | freddy` | karlpinc: what's the best way to automatically purge packets? is that even advised? |
| 16:43.30 | karlpinc | freddy`: There's also #debian-systemd on irc.debian.org. |
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| 16:44.01 | karlpinc | freddy`: Release notes document various ways. I always "aptitude purge '~c'". Others use apt-get-ish stuff. |
| 16:44.32 | karlpinc | freddy`: The above will purge removed packages. You gotta remove them first. |
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| 16:48.03 | dnsk_ | who was the one who told me vodlocker uses flash? |
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| 16:50.09 | linuxthefish | how can i mount my encrypted drive in the rescue system them? |
| 16:50.11 | linuxthefish | then* |
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| 16:52.26 | freddy` | karlpinc: release notes say debian-systemd on oftc. which one do you think is preferred? |
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| 17:14.51 | cybrNaut | how can I see versions of source packages? |
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| 17:15.04 | cybrNaut | aptitude versions is only showing binary versions |
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| 17:16.41 | Brigo | cybrNaut, normally it is in the package version. |
| 17:17.30 | cybrNaut | Brigo: i have both binary and source repos for jessie, but only source repos for wheezy |
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| 17:18.05 | Brigo | the source version is included in the binary version of the package |
| 17:18.05 | cybrNaut | so i'd like to see the source versions available in wheezy, preferably without cataloging all the binary packages for it |
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| 17:18.20 | Brigo | cybrNaut, for example, bash: |
| 17:18.23 | Brigo | ,v bash |
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| 17:18.24 | judd | Package: bash on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.1-3; squeeze-security-lts: 4.1-3+deb6u2; wheezy: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3; jessie: 4.3-11+b1; sid: 4.3-12; stretch: 4.3-12 |
| 17:18.53 | cybrNaut | Brigo: that only shows the latest of each release |
| 17:18.57 | Brigo | in strech 4.3-12 :: 4.3 is the source version 12 the debian version of the package. |
| 17:19.38 | Brigo | cybrNaut, if you want to see all the versions of a package ever, use snapshot.debian.net |
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| 17:20.02 | cybrNaut | Brigo: thanks, i'll check it out |
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| 17:20.28 | Brigo | cybrNaut, i hope it will be interesting for you :) |
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| 17:21.37 | cybrNaut | Brigo: it is spot on |
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| 17:22.05 | Brigo | cybrNaut, fine :) |
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| 17:45.46 | sceener | How can i use dual monitors on xfce4? |
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| 18:05.05 | Scaniatrucker | screener: look http://www.webupd8.org/2012/11/how-to-use-multiple-monitors-in-xubuntu.html |
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| 18:07.55 | cerry | I've just experienced a weird "disk full" error on a university's mashine. Now I'd like to check my quota and it seems that's also the name of the bash tool to do so. However neither 'quota' nor 'quota -v' or -h gives me any output. No error either, it just swallows and give me a new line prompt o.O |
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| 18:08.58 | hypn0 | you dont add a ubuntu ppa for arandr, it should be in the normal repos |
| 18:09.10 | kf53 | Is there a way to set dynamically updated DNS entries to a local DNS server for every computer that gets an IP from the dhcp server? |
| 18:09.34 | kf53 | for example if computerA gets .124 from the DHCP computerA.local returns that ip |
| 18:11.22 | petn-randall | cerry: What was the exact error? Maybe the disk actually did run full, not the quota. |
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| 18:12.17 | GiBa | hey guys, is there any way to set the dh params on apache 2.2.22 (wheezy) ? |
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| 18:12.34 | zxd | were is texinfo for gnu awk |
| 18:12.36 | zxd | in debian |
| 18:12.44 | petn-randall | GiBa: no |
| 18:12.57 | GiBa | petn-randall: :'( |
| 18:13.39 | petn-randall | GiBa: It's a 1024 bit DH key, that's not trivial to brute-force. If you care about logjam, you can upgrade to jessie. |
| 18:13.45 | cerry | petn-randall: I resolved the error but just learned about the fact there is a quota policy. (^^;) the problem now is running 'quota' gives absolutly no output :C |
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| 18:14.14 | cerry | (I'd just like to figure out what my quota isâ¦) |
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| 18:14.41 | GiBa | petn-randall: that is exactly the case, i guess is time to upgrade all the servers |
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| 18:15.00 | petn-randall | cerry: That implies that there is no quota. |
| 18:15.07 | GiBa | thanks you |
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| 18:15.23 | hypn0 | zxd: http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/ online? |
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| 18:17.29 | zxd | hypn0: where is the package :) |
| 18:17.44 | cerry | petn-randall: sounds legit. I just wonder: When I check via df I see my home partition prefixed with some IP. E.g. 8.8.8.8:/export/home/stud/cerry ~ could it be remote mashine has a quote which I can't check localy? |
| 18:17.47 | zxd | PRETTY_NAME="Debian GNU/Linux 8 (jessie)" |
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| 18:18.54 | cerry | oh⦠well⦠nevermind. I looked up the docs for our user accounts m( ^^" |
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| 18:19.29 | hypn0 | zxd: look at the doc package? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gawk |
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| 18:19.50 | arielsanflo | saludos como ver las conexiones existentes en la terminal |
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| 18:20.23 | at0m|c | !es |
| 18:20.23 | dpkg | Este canal es de soporte técnico en Inglés para Debian. Si prefiere que el soporte sea en Español, puede ingresar en #debian-es tecleando /join #debian-es en la lÃnea de chat. |
| 18:21.10 | zxd | hypn0: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gawk-doc not available for jessie |
| 18:21.12 | GiBa | deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main |
| 18:21.14 | GiBa | lol |
| 18:21.15 | zxd | hypn0: package not there |
| 18:21.17 | GiBa | sorry |
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| 18:21.44 | at0m|c | ,v gawk-doc |
| 18:21.45 | judd | Package: gawk-doc on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 3.1.6-2; wheezy/non-free: 4.0.1+ds-1; sid/non-free: 4.0.1+ds-1 |
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| 18:23.26 | hypn0 | is that the maintainers fault :-/ |
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| 18:23.40 | zxd | weird |
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| 18:33.48 | zxd | http://www.gnewsense.org/Projects/DocRejectedByDebian |
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| 18:54.00 | QuentinM | Hey folk. What exactly justifies that when a source package is in 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2 version, its binary package may be in 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2+b3 ? When a Vulnerability/CVE is fixed, it is always updated at a source package level, right ? -- Meaning that the source package version will increase anyways. |
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| 18:57.41 | kate | hello hello... any idea what this might be? Jun 06 16:42:53 iona systemd-sysctl[26671]: Failed to write ''0 2147483647'' to '/proc/sys/net/ipv4/ping_group_range': Invalid argument |
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| 19:04.01 | zykotick9 | dnsk_: you still around? what's up? |
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| 19:09.06 | help_ent | hi, after upgrading to Debian stretch, my keyboard settings in Xfce are ignored. I use a French keyboard so this is important to me (I usually use "French - alternate" layout) |
| 19:09.25 | help_ent | the workaround is to type "setxkbmap fr" but it's lost at every reboot, on top of that it doesn't have all the enhancements of French - alternate |
| 19:09.43 | help_ent | I did not have this problem in Debian jessie, the keyboard settings were obeyed properly |
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| 19:11.14 | bazhang | ,v sudo |
| 19:11.15 | judd | Package: sudo on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.4; squeeze-security: 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.4; squeeze-security-lts: 1.7.4p4-2.squeeze.5; squeeze-backports: 1.8.5p2-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.8.5p2-1+nmu1; wheezy-security: 1.8.5p2-1+nmu2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1.8.5p2-1+nmu3; jessie: 1.8.10p3-1+deb8u2; sid: 1.8.12-1; stretch: 1.8.12-1 |
| 19:11.56 | bazhang | stretch is the new unstable? |
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| 19:13.38 | zykotick9 | bazhang: sid is always the unstable branch, strech is the new testing. |
| 19:14.28 | bazhang | zykotick9, so filing a bug would be advised in such cases as keyboard settings not being held? |
| 19:15.00 | trampel | help_ent: it's a wild notion but if you log-out as a user (prior to rebooting?) there is/used-to-be an option: "Save session for future logins" you might want to be sure that that is click on ...? |
| 19:15.27 | help_ent | the checkbox is checked, trampel |
| 19:15.43 | zykotick9 | bazhang: i'd say, filing a bug is always a good idea... |
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| 19:21.21 | trampel | help_ent: then i've shot my sorry wad. |
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| 19:23.16 | hypn0 | stretch is new testing i thinks :-) |
| 19:24.40 | hypn0 | why dont they just use numbers, thats what they are for :-) |
| 19:24.45 | trampel | "The current "testing" distribution is stretch." https://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 19:43.33 | sixgod | how do I downgrade from PHP5.6 to PHP5.5 on debian jessie? |
| 19:45.13 | blackjack | i wonder why you prefer the older version |
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| 19:51.52 | linuxthefish | how can i get internet if none of my USB wifi sticks are detected? :( |
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| 19:53.21 | nkuttler | !downgrade |
| 19:53.22 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 19:53.57 | towo` | linuxthefish, use a wired connection? |
| 19:54.08 | blackjack | will debian 7.8 be supported for a couple of years still? |
| 19:54.14 | linuxthefish | towo` no ethernet connection :( |
| 19:54.20 | linuxthefish | no port* |
| 19:54.22 | towo` | linuxthefish, most wifi hardware needs firmware blobs |
| 19:54.48 | linuxthefish | all non free? :/ |
| 19:55.03 | towo` | o it is |
| 19:55.14 | towo` | so |
| 19:56.08 | zykotick9 | linuxthefish: "most wifi" != all /me uses free wifi |
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| 19:56.34 | towo` | this does not help many, if he has no such free hardware |
| 19:57.06 | linuxthefish | yeah my last laptop worked out of the box, i was so lucky lol |
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| 19:57.49 | help_ent | hi, after upgrading to Debian stretch, my keyboard settings in Xfce are ignored. I use a French keyboard so this is important to me (I usually use "French - alternate" layout) |
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| 19:58.27 | zykotick9 | help_ent: you might want to try #debian-next on OFTC for support for testing... |
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| 20:04.04 | jelly | blackjack: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS |
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| 20:05.40 | ptrz | If I just migrated systems, can I drop /etc/passwd entries from the old one into my new one? |
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| 20:11.09 | anddam | ptrz: I guess not, due to uids |
| 20:11.15 | cybrNaut | i need a "remove-deps" command |
| 20:11.30 | cybrNaut | what's the opposite of "aptitude build-deps"? |
| 20:12.00 | jelly | cybrNaut: there isn't one |
| 20:12.38 | jelly | cybrNaut: use mk-build-deps from devscripts package, next time |
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| 20:13.07 | anddam | cybrNaut: check apt-cache showsrc output and uninstall build-deps |
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| 20:13.32 | anddam | I personally find difficult to uninstall unneeded package |
| 20:13.34 | anddam | packages |
| 20:13.52 | jelly | ptrz: that should have been done in advance to account for dynamically created service-used users and groups |
| 20:14.24 | jelly | ptrz: you can migrate just the normal users tho. |
| 20:14.45 | cybrNaut | anddam: i tried "apt-cache showsrc gnucash=1:2.4.10-6" but got W: Unable to locate package gnucash=1:2.4.10-6 |
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| 20:15.08 | cybrNaut | probably since i only have the source repo for that |
| 20:15.39 | jelly | ptrz: be careful, entries in /etc/shadow and /etc/passwd need to be in exact same order. Same goes for /etc/group and /etc/gshadow. Use vipw and vigr. |
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| 20:17.23 | anddam | cybrNaut: try w/o the version specifier and you have a guess at the deps |
| 20:17.47 | ptrz | jelly: thanks |
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| 20:19.22 | cybrNaut | i'm trying to read /var/log/apt/history.log to see if the packages are named there |
| 20:19.44 | cybrNaut | it's tricky though because the log file does not include the original command |
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| 20:21.03 | linuxthefish | where is the sources.list generator command bot things? |
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| 20:21.59 | jelly | linuxthefish: there's no generator in the bot. You can however ask it about, eg. /msg dpkg jessie sources.list |
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| 20:25.48 | linuxthefish | where can i find firmware-realtek? :( |
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| 20:26.48 | jelly | linuxthefish: /msg dpkg non-free sources |
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| 20:29.19 | Tau | is it possible to share internet from my laptop using bluetooth? |
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| 20:31.42 | linuxthefish | omg jelly |
| 20:31.42 | linuxthefish | <dpkg> are you using Windows?, linuxthefish |
| 20:33.22 | jelly | "you made a typo" |
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| 20:44.49 | Ralt | hello |
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| 20:46.36 | Ralt | I have a custom debian package with a config file that's supposed to ask a debconf question... yet when I apt-get install, no question is asked |
| 20:46.38 | Ralt | any idea why? |
| 20:46.43 | Ralt | here is said config file: https://github.com/Ralt/ralt-awesome/blob/master/debian/config |
| 20:47.28 | Ralt | (basically 3 lines.) |
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| 20:53.51 | Brigo | Ralt, ask in #debian-mentor, in oftc network. |
| 20:53.54 | Tau | hi? |
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| 20:55.14 | abrotman | Ralt: #debian-mentors .. plural |
| 20:55.18 | linuxthefish | where can i find linux headers 4.0.4-2 ? |
| 20:55.28 | Ralt | Brigo: abrotman: ah, thanks. |
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| 20:58.55 | towo` | linuxthefish, not in debian, from where you have a kernel with such versioning? |
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| 20:59.48 | linuxthefish | towo` on debian, the instructions say to install! |
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| 21:00.51 | towo` | linuxthefish, no, debian has no such versioning |
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| 21:01.20 | towo` | linuxthefish, dpkg -l | grep linux-image |
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| 21:32.40 | linuxthefish | if i install debian i386 to my external HDD it should be able to boot on most PC's? |
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| 21:33.21 | towo` | it should |
| 21:33.49 | towo` | but only if you install the bootloader to that drive too |
| 21:34.08 | towo` | but why you answer the questions above? |
| 21:34.23 | towo` | *don't answer |
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| 21:36.35 | tpanarch1st | hello, does anybody run apache on debian please :) |
| 21:36.54 | tpanarch1st | i'm not having the most friendly time with httpd stating they don't support deb's scripts |
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| 21:37.13 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 21:37.13 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 21:38.00 | petn-randall | tpanarch1st: ^^^^ |
| 21:39.20 | tpanarch1st | what's the issue - please answer in a constructive fashion |
| 21:39.30 | abrotman | tpanarch1st: ask a better question |
| 21:39.57 | tpanarch1st | what's the point in constructing one if there is nobody that feels comfortable with the area concerned |
| 21:40.01 | tpanarch1st | that is a smart question |
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| 21:40.07 | abrotman | waits .. |
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| 21:41.14 | radjevac | i don't know how to install new fontforge on debian 8 |
| 21:41.30 | radjevac | does anyone know?i need that tool |
| 21:41.43 | radjevac | http://fontforge.github.io/en-US/ |
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| 21:44.33 | tpanarch1st | right, I've used https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-ssl-certificate-on-apache-for-ubuntu-12-04 because I was told to and **they** insisted, then somebody else said "don't use that because you run Debian (I made the first guy aware of this already) use this instead https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-ssl-certificate-on-apache-for-debian-7 |
| 21:44.38 | tpanarch1st | now i'm running deb 8 anyway |
| 21:45.02 | tpanarch1st | what i'm concerned about is potentially any damage i've caused by using the wrong tutorial |
| 21:45.15 | tpanarch1st | meanwhile, httpd decided "no, we don't support your distro" |
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| 21:45.34 | abrotman | But it's just generating a cert, and you're setting up the conf files? What doesn't work about it? |
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| 21:48.21 | hippydoodah | why might some c compile on ideone and osx but not on debian? http://ideone.com/SEpaRC |
| 21:49.24 | petn-randall | tpanarch1st: IRC is not always realtime. If you ask "does anyone know httpd?", you might get an hour or two later a response "Yes, but what's your question?", you might read that an hour later, and then that person is gone. That's why it's best to ask your question straight away. |
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| 21:50.49 | skilz | Hi how do I install flash so I can watch web content? |
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| 21:51.09 | tpanarch1st | petn-randall: sure, it's just I've been trying to get this sorted out all day |
| 21:51.09 | radjevac1234 | how to install fontforge on debian8 |
| 21:51.13 | skilz | I've installed gnash and browser-plugin-gnash |
| 21:51.14 | tpanarch1st | and i've just had enough really :) |
| 21:51.15 | petn-randall | tpanarch1st: Also, I don't really see any differences between those tutorials. Which command in there do you think might damage your system? |
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| 21:52.53 | towo` | radjevac1234, apt-get install fontforge |
| 21:53.15 | radjevac1234 | towo, not old version, i need latest one |
| 21:53.48 | towo` | then build yourself |
| 21:53.51 | abrotman | tpanarch1st: what's the actual problem? |
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| 21:54.03 | abrotman | tpanarch1st: or, is osmething not working? |
| 21:54.06 | radjevac1234 | i don't know how :/ |
| 21:54.20 | towo` | !uupdate |
| 21:54.20 | dpkg | uupdate (in the <devscripts> package) upgrades a source code package from an upstream revision, or e.g. if the newest foo in debian is 1.2, and upstream is at 1.4: apt-get source foo; wget -nd http://foo.org/foo-1.4.tar.gz; cd foo-1.2; uupdate ../foo-1.4.tar.gz Ask me about <package recompile>. |
| 21:54.28 | towo` | radjevac1234, ^ |
| 21:54.33 | tpanarch1st | abrotman: at present if I visit https://192.168.1.101 I get http://snag.gy/b6pvN.jpg |
| 21:54.38 | tpanarch1st | when I hit accept |
| 21:54.40 | tpanarch1st | I get |
| 21:55.03 | abrotman | you created a self-signed cert |
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| 21:55.33 | tpanarch1st | http://snag.gy/vQWeY.jpg |
| 21:55.35 | tpanarch1st | yeah |
| 21:55.52 | abrotman | pretty normal for a browser to warn you when it's a self-signed cert |
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| 21:55.56 | tpanarch1st | but you notice, it redirects me back to what the domain was at the time of install |
| 21:56.12 | tpanarch1st | which was a dynamic |
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| 21:57.21 | radjevac1234 | towo, please give me step by step instructions if isn't problem |
| 21:57.27 | towo` | no |
| 21:57.55 | towo` | read what the bot is saying, that's the step by step instruction |
| 21:58.07 | towo` | also you can google about that |
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| 22:02.47 | skilz | how do I update my system time? ntpdate isnt working |
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| 22:05.34 | abrotman | skilz: use ntp |
| 22:06.33 | skilz | Fixed it :) |
| 22:06.54 | skilz | I've installed gnash and browser-plugin-gnash but can't watch videos in iceweasel. |
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| 22:08.25 | linuxthefish | is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=598377 resolved? |
| 22:08.29 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/598377 in gdm3 (open, moreinfo): «gdm3: unable to log into the session after last upgrade»; severity: important; opened: 2010-09-28; last modified: 2012-06-26. |
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| 22:11.28 | the_sniff | anyway to speedup a huge list of smallfile's transfer with rsync on an SSD drive? |
| 22:12.02 | Tau | hi? |
| 22:12.12 | Tau | is it possible to share internet via bluetooth? |
| 22:12.16 | Tau | with debian and my laptop? |
| 22:12.23 | Tau | and another device that supports bluetooth? |
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| 22:26.09 | the_sniff | hmmm |
| 22:26.20 | the_sniff | i seem to not have a link from /dev/md/3 to /dev/md3 |
| 22:26.22 | the_sniff | why is that? |
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| 22:28.49 | skilz | abrotman: How can I get flash working? I've installed gnash and browser-plugin-gnash but can't watch videos in iceweasel. |
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| 22:37.53 | axel_fly | how to put this command executed generally and together: syndaemon -i 0.5 -KRd; synclient RightButtonAreaLeft=0 && synclient RightButtonAreaTop=0; |
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| 22:38.08 | axel_fly | for all users |
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| 22:53.02 | Ralt | hi |
| 22:53.07 | Ralt | I pinned a package |
| 22:53.15 | Ralt | but it seems apt-cache policy is not picking it up correctly :/ |
| 22:53.27 | Ralt | http://pastebin.com/0Fe4FKkZ |
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| 23:02.02 | skilz | How to watch youtube flash videos? |
| 23:02.17 | zinx | youtube uses html5 |
| 23:02.19 | skilz | I installed gnash and the browser plugin with no luck. |
| 23:02.31 | skilz | I'm using iceweasel |
| 23:02.45 | sixgod | install firefox |
| 23:02.51 | skilz | Well other videos |
| 23:02.55 | zinx | iceweasel does html5 videos just fine |
| 23:02.55 | skilz | I need flash |
| 23:03.06 | MickyW | Although it a security thread, you may install Adobe Flash. |
| 23:03.18 | MickyW | skilz: Although it a security thread, you may install Adobe Flash. |
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| 23:03.39 | MickyW | thread -> threat |
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| 23:05.25 | zykotick9 | skilz: if you _really_ want flash, i'd suggest chrome or chromium with some flash addition thing (i don't know the details) |
| 23:06.05 | axel_fly | peppermint something in chromium |
| 23:06.36 | zykotick9 | axel_fly: thanks... |
| 23:06.36 | axel_fly | i use flashplugin-nonfree with iceweasel |
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| 23:07.27 | axel_fly | pepperflashplugin-nonfree zykotick9 |
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| 23:08.38 | MickyW | skilz: There https://forums.kali.org/showthread.php?977-Install-Flash-Player-for-Iceweasel-Firefox-in-3-Simple-Steps is a simple step-by-step how to which only involves to copy an so file to iceweasels plugin-directory. |
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| 23:09.20 | zykotick9 | notes flash on gnu/linux is no longer supported by adobe... |
| 23:10.25 | skilz | Thanks |
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| 23:10.49 | MickyW | zykotick9: I am sorry, but this not entirely true. Adobe does not support it's newest release on linux but still publishes security updates for a slightly older one. V13 I presume. |
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| 23:11.58 | zykotick9 | MickyW: hmmm, sorry. i don't use flash myself, but i don't wish to spread misinformation. |
| 23:11.59 | MickyW | However. Flash is a security threat and I removed it from my system. |
| 23:12.26 | MickyW | zykotick9: No prob. I ony wanted to make it more precise. :-) |
| 23:12.55 | tpanarch1st | hi, ive just been following this guide following a reinstall https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-create-a-ssl-certificate-on-apache-for-debian-7 i've ran a2ensite default |
| 23:12.56 | tpanarch1st | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.03 | tpanarch1st | i'm running debian 8 |
| 23:13.09 | tpanarch1st | ive changed snake oil for what it says in the guide |
| 23:13.32 | the_sniff | ls -l /etc/apache2/sites-available |
| 23:14.22 | tpanarch1st | the_sniff: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1332 Feb 1 08:23 000-default.conf |
| 23:14.22 | tpanarch1st | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6455 Jun 7 00:09 default-ssl.conf |
| 23:14.36 | tpanarch1st | i've edited default-ssl.conf :) |
| 23:14.46 | the_sniff | a2ensite default-ssl |
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| 23:15.08 | the_sniff | a2ensite just creates a symlink from /etc/apache2/sites-avabilable to sites-enabled |
| 23:15.25 | tpanarch1st | the_sniff: so run your command instead |
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| 23:16.20 | tpanarch1st | the_sniff: root@edas:/etc/apache2/sites-available# a2ensite default-ssl |
| 23:16.20 | tpanarch1st | Site default-ssl already enabled |
| 23:16.20 | tpanarch1st | root@edas:/etc/apache2/sites-available# |
| 23:16.33 | the_sniff | site is enabled |
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| 23:16.45 | tpanarch1st | the_sniff: does it matter that i deleted the snakeoil stuf |
| 23:16.46 | tpanarch1st | f |
| 23:16.50 | tpanarch1st | for what was in the tutorial :) |
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| 23:18.12 | MickyW | Funny thing. Being puzzled by reading about "Snake oil" in conjunction with computers. :-) |
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| 23:19.15 | the_sniff | whats smalepo? |
| 23:19.18 | the_sniff | snakeoil* |
| 23:19.28 | tpanarch1st | MickyW: yeah indeed, i havent got a clue about what it is, and I was worried because I was reading a tutsy on debian 7 whilst running deb8 |
| 23:19.56 | tpanarch1st | the_sniff: no idea, the tutorial told me to make it look like the box suggested so i deleted snakeoil.pem i think |
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| 23:20.27 | tpanarch1st | im just hoping this will not be the 6th time today im told i'm reading a wrong tutorial after being pointed to it by somebody else |
| 23:20.31 | tpanarch1st | its how the whole day has gone on |
| 23:20.48 | MickyW | Sh... happens. ;-) |
| 23:21.16 | the_sniff | ah it's just a certificate |
| 23:21.41 | the_sniff | shouldn't matter |
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| 23:21.50 | MickyW | Ah. Nice wording. |
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| 23:25.00 | MickyW | 1661 users! Much more than in the german debian channel. And much more activity. :-) |
| 23:25.29 | MickyW | Ouch! That was my foot! |
| 23:25.53 | MickyW | OK. It's late. Night brings cool air. Going to bed now. |
| 23:25.54 | MickyW | Bye. |
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| 23:39.13 | Busserl | Hi, I rebuilt the official amd64 3.16 kernel and, no at boot I get the message 'kvm no hardware support'. The message does not appear using the original kernel from apt. I installed the debs linux-image and linux-headers for my custom kernel image. |
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