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00:09.58asterismoso, does anyone knows if this backup, actually backs up the server? then restore it will work as before? https://paste.debian.net/217324/
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00:11.51cafuegoNo, after restore it will probably not work as before.
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00:13.12asterismocafuego: so? how i'm supposed to reinstall the server in a software raid the same as before?
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00:14.45SmashingXhow to get 32 bit kernel headers in 64 bit debian jessie installation
00:17.15acz32SmashingX: apt-get install
00:17.23asterismocan anyone help me to backup a fake raid server and restore it in a software raid install?
00:17.35SmashingXacz32: I know that, but how to get the 32 bits version of it
00:18.49acz32SmashingX: by installing it with apt-get
00:19.17SmashingXapt-get install and then what?
00:19.28acz32package name, like installing anything else
00:19.44acz32doesn't matter if it's 32 bit and you're on 64 bit system
00:19.50cafuegoasterismo: Bacjup all your files and config, backup the list of installed software. Do a fresh install on swraid, repalce the config, replace the files.
00:20.42cafuegoasterismo: As is, if you restore the backup you'll end up putting files in /boot but not updating the bootloader, so you'll probably end up with an unbootable system.
00:20.58asterismocafuego: that is why i'm asking if backing up all of this will lead me to a sucssessfull restore: https://paste.debian.net/217324/
00:21.23cafuegoasterismo: And that is why I said "probably not"
00:21.26asterismocafuego: maybe some folders should not be restored as they are generated by the new system
00:21.27SmashingXwhat’s the package name
00:21.29SmashingXacz32:
00:21.33asterismocafuego: /boot is a clear example
00:21.57asterismobut my question is what folders can be restored without problems
00:22.19acz32SmashingX: apt-cache search linux-headers
00:22.33acz32that will show you
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00:22.37asterismocafuego: and how i get a list of installed packages?
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00:22.52SmashingXhttp://fixee.org/paste/x850gy1/
00:22.58SmashingXI just see the 64 version of it
00:23.03SmashingXacz32:
00:23.11asterismocafuego: maybe conf files are located on few folders
00:23.19cafuegoasterismo: I usualy use 'dpkg --get-selections'
00:23.31cafuegoasterismo: and I backup /etc, /home, /root
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00:24.18SmashingXsomebody please?
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00:24.26SmashingXhow to get 32 bit kernel headers in 64 bit debian jessie installation
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00:25.02acz32may have to dpkg --add-architecture i386
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00:25.37acz32why do you need them?
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00:26.09SmashingXto do some compiling
00:26.15SmashingXhow can I get them?
00:26.18SmashingXsomebody?
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00:27.29esdeseriously?
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00:30.24SmashingXnobody?
00:30.28cafuegoSmashingX: kernel headers shouldn't be arch dependent at all
00:30.41icariousDoes Debian still ship the entire "main" in DVD set as it did with http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/6.0.10/amd64/iso-dvd/?
00:30.44asterismocafuego: what about mysql, mysql passwords, users, user passwords?
00:30.47cafuegothey should be in a kernel-foobar-all.deb
00:30.48SmashingXso how can I download them?
00:30.50asterismoit all gets bached up?
00:30.51icarioushttp://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/8.0.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ has only 3 DVD's
00:31.18cafuegoasterismo: If you want to actually use mysql after a restore, you can't just copy /var/lib/mysql
00:31.47cafuegoSmashingX: apt-get install kernel-headers?
00:32.20asterismocafuego: i have irc server, drupal, owncloud, phpbb forum
00:32.32asterismoall this has mysql db
00:32.37asterismohow to restore all of this
00:32.42asterismo?
00:32.43cafuegoasterismo: Then you need to backup mysql
00:32.52cafuegoSee the `mysqldump' utility.
00:33.23cafuegoBasically, that dumps the databases as text files on disk, containing importable SQL statements.
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00:36.23asterismocafuego: can't i just backup folders like /var /etc /usr and everything gets restored? everything but fstab and /boot ?
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00:37.17cafuegoasterismo: nope
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00:37.45cafuegoWell, yes your mysql files will be restored, but the databases will likely be broken.
00:37.51cafuegoI assume that's not the goal.
00:37.53asterismocafuego: and why? i mean what is probably gonna break then?
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00:40.15asterismois there any tutorial on how to migrate a fakeraid to a software raid?
00:40.43cafuegomysql has lots of files, each of which generally has an internal state and version. these need to ALL match in order for the database to work. If your server dies before data is writtem, you end up with an inconsistent database, and it won't start. Same tjing if you copy files and a file is written during the copy.
00:41.07cafuegoThe only way to safely bak is up with via a dump file + binary logs (or the inoodb snapshot tool)
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00:45.54asterismocafuego: even if the server has properlty shuted down?
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00:48.43esde[06 09/20:25:02] <acz32> may have to dpkg --add-architecture i386
00:48.54esdei wonder if he even tried before leaving...
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01:03.01asterismocafuego: even if the server has properlty shuted down?
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01:06.03soundtoxinanyone know a good way to figure out where an issue lies so I can report it to the proper place?
01:06.05cafuegoasterismo: Maybe. You never know. You need to do a dump either way so you can keep offsite backups.
01:06.25soundtoxinI've got some long-going issues with both Steam and Skype, but not sure if its the fault of the respective programs or perhaps the fault of my window manager or something
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01:06.28cafuegosoundtoxin: Investigate the problem by changing a single variable at a time.
01:06.52soundtoxinchanging my window manager sounds like a bit of a pain
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02:51.38nezZariohas anyone ever successfully setup Cisco Anyconnect with debian?
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02:51.50nezZarioI'd really like to set it up so I'm VPN'd but only use that VPN for specific routes
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02:59.04karlpincnezZario: I tend to use openvpn.  YMMV.  (Actually, mostly I just ssh forward, but openvpn is useful for punching out behind nat.)
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03:00.21karlpincsoundtoxin: Often changing your window manager is easy.  You install another and tell your dm to use it for a single login via some sort of menu supplied by the dm.
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03:14.17reklipzhow do I request dhcp leases in rescue mode (single user) with systems?
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03:16.27reklipzI'm just looking to get networking working in rescue mode is all.  I can bring the link up just fine, but idk how to get a lease
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03:18.42Laserburnreklipz: have you tried using dhclient?
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03:21.51reklipzlaserburn I did try running dhclient with no params; no luck
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03:39.11Laserburnrekipz: what is your DHCP server's address?  Are you sure the machine is in the same broadcast domain as the server?
03:39.23Laserburnreklipz: what is your DHCP server's address?  Are you sure the machine is in the same broadcast domain as the server?
03:39.46nezZariokarlpinc, yeah, duh!  It's to connect to some crazy company's server, .. I'll just setup tunneling instead of using their crap, all I need is SSH
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03:40.20nezZarioon that subject, .. I used a piece of software that was a ssh reverse tunnel but ran as a daemon and maintained the connection.. can't find / think of the name for the life of me .. any suggestions?
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03:41.15RickHullhow can I start e.g. 30 processes in the background, and make sure to gather/report all the exit statuses?
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03:41.39RickHulleach process may run for 60-300 seconds roughly
03:41.57RickHullI've looked at using $! to get the PID, and wait PID
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03:42.17RickHullexcept if one of the 30 processes finishes before the one i'm waiting on
03:42.27RickHullwhen wait gets to it, it won't report its exit code
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03:43.52reklipzlaserburn its a fresh Debian install plugeed into my home lan
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03:44.17reklipzwhen I boot regular, to GNOME, the nic gets a lease right quick
03:45.34reklipzdmesg complains about firmware missing, but gnome has no issues...
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03:48.44jsubl2reklipz: does wireless work
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04:02.09yvearsay in wheezy stable there is a bug in only one package that is fixed in testing, how should I proceed upgrading? can I use testing for only one thing?
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04:10.13Rusty1joo-_:  connection trouble?
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04:24.07yvearI actually don't want everything using testing, just this one package. is that possible?
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04:26.12p0wersploitHow do I flash and upgrade an Alienware Bios with Linux :(
04:26.16p0wersploitI guess its impossible
04:26.21monban_hey guys, possibly quick question, attempting to recover data from a dead Seagate NAS, fdisk -l shows a partition sdc8 of type 'Linux LVM', but there is no sdc8 in /dev, what gives? :D
04:26.36p0wersploitI tried a Windows live cd it couldnt use my hardware
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04:26.55p0wersploitno network
04:27.06monban_p0wersploit: do they offer like a boot-to-flash type utility? or possibly the option to flash from the BIOS?
04:27.21p0wersploitNo they don't
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04:27.39p0wersploitCould I open a VM and put it on my actual hardware temporarily?
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04:28.33monbannot typically, writing to the BIOS is pretty low level and usually you need to be running on the actual hardware, not virtualized... you'd be basically trying to flash the (virtual) CMOS of the vm
04:28.34p0wersploitWell it does say you can make a DOS bootable USB flash drive
04:28.45p0wersploitI don't have any USBs laying around right this second
04:28.57p0wersploitYeah I figured :(
04:29.13p0wersploitMy bios is from 2012 though and my ACPI broke last night
04:29.19p0wersploitits only hope is to update it
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04:29.41monbanmaking a freedos usb stick might be your best bet
04:30.34p0wersploitYeah, I'll do it tomorrow when i can get a USB stick they're all at someone else's house
04:30.51monbanif you have cd-rs around but no usb stick you might try to make a bootable freedos (or maybe even WindowsPE?) bootable cd-r and use that, but I don't know exactly how to do that from the top of my head
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04:31.28p0wersploitI can wait, it's just putting out a lot of heat after spending so long in live Windows trying to get drivers to work
04:31.34p0wersploitIt really hates Windows >_>
04:31.48p0wersploitWay too resource heavy especially without ACPI
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04:36.13reklipzjsub12, wireless does not work, but I believe that is a firmware issue (Intel dual band 7260)
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04:36.39reklipzas in I don't have the firmware.  need to get the nic working.
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04:40.38relaxedreklipz: dmesg|grep firmware
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04:49.56keerlaHey, so I just have a quick question for anyone who might be able to help me. I'm a big steam enthusiast and i recently tried to play borderlands 2 however when it loads up none of the words are readable so I was wondering if there's something I need to install to make that go away? I'm running debian on my computer currently.
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04:55.42monbankeerla: I had a friend had that problem, I think he ended up turning off the steam overlay, give that a try?
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04:56.38reklipzrelaxed dmesg shows complaints about possibly missing firmware for the realtek wired NIC, and I assume the wireless 7260 card.  that said, networking works fine with a regular boot (wired networking, that is).
04:56.40keerlamonban: do you know how i would do that?
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04:57.32keerlamonban: I found it nevermind! I'll give that a try then
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04:59.54darkunable to install extra-cmake-module for debian 8 jessie , aptitude search result empty
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05:01.36keerlamonban: That worked thank you so much!
05:03.39monbankeerla: no problem, sorry if that's not a great answer, like, you shouldn't HAVE to do that, but in my experience Steam overlay causes just lots of problems, I kind of get the feeling they don't test a lot on Linux
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05:07.40keerlamonban: oh no, it got the game to work so that was just the right answer haha. You wouldn't happen to know if there's a way to transfer the saved game data from playing on windows over to what i'm using now would you?
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05:36.26relaxedreklipz: install the firmware packages you need
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06:05.32soundtoxinkarlpinc: I don't use a DE, my WM is the whole shabang. That's why it feels like a bother
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07:06.10phixaicra: Now what?
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07:59.00ChrisHAnyone here with access to a Debian testing or better unstable installation on VIA Eden CPU to execute a gnutls-cli command for me? (Needed to prepare a bug report)
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08:02.09ChrisHVIA command: gnutls-cli -d 4711 -p 587 smtp.gmx.de   check for lines like: "GnuTLS error: An unexpected TLS packet was received." at the end of the handshakeprocess
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08:07.22rwpChrisH, http://pastebin.com/uwDyMuvk
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08:07.36rwpChrisH, Run from Sid updated today.
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08:08.08ChrisHrwp: thanks. can you add a /proc/cpuinfo please?
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08:09.28rwpChrisH, cpuinfo http://pastebin.com/DVPgZZEi
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08:11.13rwpChrisH, gnutls-bin is version 3.3.15-5 on this system.
08:11.28ChrisHrwp: thanks, but thats no VIA Eden CPU but some Intel.
08:12.22rwpChrisH, Oh!  Sorry.  I didn't understand the request.
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08:12.35rwpHowever the error seems the same.
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08:12.55rwpIt was my Sid system which is why I responded.
08:13.45ChrisHrwp: It might not even be related to the CPU, more checks needed. Thanks so far.
08:13.52rwpChrisH, I can do armv7l if that is interesting.
08:14.11anddamhttps://www.youtube.com/html5 doesn't show H.264 enable, I'm on updated jessie with mozilla.debian.net deb line
08:14.20anddamam I missing some specific package for H.264?
08:14.31anddamI have libx264-142 and x264
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08:36.45syntroPiApropos SSL certs: are there any disadvantages in using 4096bits RSA Keys nowerdays for a webserver accessed by desktop and mobile devices?
08:40.39wCPOAnyone with experience building a live image with fakeroot/fakechroot?
08:41.30mariannaHi!
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08:41.41mariannaI have installed sane from here http://www.sane-project.org/snapshots/
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08:42.26mariannanow I don't know how to tell the system that sane is actually installed
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08:42.49jellysyntroPi: if all your platforms work with it, no
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08:45.50mariannafor example, If I want to install simple-scan
08:45.51at0m|cdpkg: tell wCPO -about anyone
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08:46.16mariannaapt-get tries to install libsane, libsane-extras, etc...
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08:46.34mariannawhich I have already installed via source...
08:47.05gaurishankar_hello
08:47.20syntroPijelly well my platforms to but how about some old cellphones or ie6 whatever is alive still out there?
08:47.36gaurishankar_is there any risk in upgrading debian point release 8.1
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08:48.19wCPOat0m|c :)
08:48.50wCPOI'm trying to build live build image with fakeroot and fakechroot.
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08:49.15wCPOBut at the end of the debootstrap stage, it stop with this error:
08:49.15wCPOCould not open lock file /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
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08:49.42gaurishankar_hello
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08:50.12gaurishankar_is there any risk involed in updating point release 8.1
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08:51.32babilengaurishankar_: Sure, it is, however, quite minimal
08:52.05at0m|cwCPO: run deboostrap as root
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08:52.14at0m|c*debootstrap
08:52.44gaurishankar_Release note says some changes done to systemd as well
08:52.52jellysyntroPi: try them and see.
08:53.06gaurishankar_I fear my server should not go down, since is it production server
08:54.10babilengaurishankar_: We've upgraded boxes to this without problem, but there is a risk in *everything*. I wouldn't expect anything major though.
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08:54.54at0m|cdpkg: tell gaurishankar_ -about wheezy->jessie
08:55.01babilenno no
08:55.12gaurishankar_jessie 8 to jessie 8.1
08:55.14babilenat0m|c: Upgrade from 8.0 to 8.1
08:55.15at0m|coh
08:55.36babilengaurishankar_: I wouldn't worry about it.
08:55.45babilenWell, I didn't :)
08:56.00gaurishankar_I tried it on test sever it is working all right
08:56.19gaurishankar_but to touch the priduction server I fear
08:56.33rehclaHi all!How can I make MTP devices like my Jolla phone accessable on XFCE?
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08:58.29babilengaurishankar_: There might be short interruptions due to service restarts. If you want to do it nicely then make sure that your failover works so that the server you are upgrading at the moment can be away without causing disruptions.
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08:59.48babilengaurishankar_: You probably want to reboot it anyway, so schedule some downtime if you have no redundancy
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09:01.15gaurishankar_right thats correct
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09:04.11wCPOat0m|c: The files is pushed from git, i don't want everyone with access to the git repo.. To be able to run code on my server as root.
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09:10.18at0m|cwCPO: debootstrap requires root to create device nodes and to chroot.
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09:12.04at0m|cwCPO: that's why you run fakechroot?
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09:19.23rehclaWill installing "jmtpfs" solve this?
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09:21.54wCPOat0m|c: Yes
09:22.11wCPOand fakeroot
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09:30.20g00seGetting apt multimedia errors (key-related) and not sure what to do about them: http://sprunge.us/aCOe
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09:38.24utopiahhi #debian , just update from 7.8 to 8.1 , kept my Samba config files but somehow now it asks for password to connect to a share that didn't require one before the upgrade. Please help
09:38.46gaurishankar_at first time connection it will ask
09:38.53gaurishankar_next it wont
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09:39.47gaurishankar_I just applied the point release
09:39.57gaurishankar_8 ti 8.1
09:40.02gaurishankar_8 to 8.1
09:40.46utopiahgaurishankar_: are you replying to me? If so what should I give as login/password to make it go away, I tried nothing, guest/guest, etc to no avail
09:41.16gaurishankar_the samba user name and password
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09:41.47dokmaI've managed to do modprobe usbserial vendor=0x04a9 product=0x1736
09:42.03dokmaNow I have /dev/ttyUSB0 but cannot seem to do anything with it...
09:42.11utopiahno clue what those could be, used it without name and password for few years now
09:42.33dokmaminicom cannot communicate with it, wvdialconf cannot detect it...
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09:43.01dokmait got assigned a usbserial_generic
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09:44.40babilengaurishankar_: And, any problems?
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09:48.00g00seGetting apt multimedia errors (key-related) and not sure what to do about them: http://sprunge.us/aCOe
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09:49.17gaurishankar_babilen I am waiting to reboot at 6 PM
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09:49.35gaurishankar_the user did not notices any performance issue
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09:51.00ElDiaboloWhen is wlan available (configured through gnome for all users).
09:51.11ElDiaboloin jessie
09:51.29gaurishankar_<PROTECTED>
09:51.39ElDiaboloyes
09:51.56g00seThat's the sort of thing that systemd is meant to make _very_ easy to establish
09:52.09gaurishankar_right
09:53.19ElDiaboloSo how do I write a script that is called when wlan is available?
09:53.26g00seDitto
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09:56.57ElDiaboloSo it should be easy with systemd, any further hints?
09:58.26g00seI don't know systemd :( That's why i still use wheezy ;)
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09:58.57g00seBut there are a lot of people here who do and ...
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10:00.15ElDiabolog00se, Uh, ok. I just moved to systemd-shim here. But if it could do something useful, I'd move back.
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10:00.57g00seNot as a result of what i just said i hope ;) ?
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10:02.42ElDiaboloNo, but I moved to sysv-init for practical reasons and I am willing to move back for practical reasons.
10:03.01Agiofwshello
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10:05.18phixhi Agiofws
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10:05.32g00seWell, i'll tell you what _I_ use (in a minute)
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10:06.48phixhi g00se! I thought you died by snapping your neck when ejecting from a F14 or F16
10:07.42g00sephix: ?
10:08.12g00seI simply put a link to a script in /etc/network/if-up.d Seems to work OK
10:08.20phixoh
10:08.23ElDiabolog00se, What I am trying to achieve is to get the key for my home partition over the network while falling back to entering it.
10:09.05Agiofwshey does anyone have a simple example of a state machine in C ?
10:09.14g00seWouldn't that be a security risk?
10:09.30Agiofwscan'y find an extra simple example
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10:11.00ElDiabolog00se, The pont is to remove the key as soon as I oose physical control over my laptop.
10:12.09babilenAgiofws: As in: A finite state automaton?
10:12.16ElDiabolog00se, Or to have the key only in my LAN.
10:12.26g00seSo - don't you mean when wlan is UNavailable then?
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10:13.16g00seAgiofws: why does the language matter?
10:13.28ElDiabolog00se, No, when I am at home the box thould mount home after wlan is available.
10:14.33g00seSo, my previous suggestion?
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10:15.55ElDiabolog00se, if-up.d s a great idea, I am not sure how to do the fallback to manually entering the password then.
10:15.57g00se(You might have to have some heuristic to find which interface is used)
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10:17.04g00seAt that point, manual entry could be impracticable/impossible
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10:17.36shiblyHi, how are you all?
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10:17.58g00seAnd the reverse (storing the key in a file) is a security weakness
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10:18.06ElDiabolog00se, Bad.
10:19.10g00seSo you want closer control than 'wlan is up'. You need to be post-desktop up too
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10:20.33g00seIf you're getting a situation where a dialog comes up asking for a key, it's just as easy to run a command to mount it ;)
10:21.06g00seAt least then you'll be entering the key when you're _ready_ to do so
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10:24.10ElDiabolog00se, As far as I have seen, pam_mount can ask for the key. Hopefully pam_mount only asks for the key if the mount has not been done.
10:24.18p3rrorhello
10:24.29p3rrorhow to detect all  netowinterface
10:24.41p3rrorhow to detec all network interface on a server linux
10:24.55p3rrorifconfig -a ?
10:25.04p3rroror dmesg ?
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10:26.31ElDiabolop3rror, ifconfig
10:26.52g00seThe former
10:26.58p3rrorthe server contains 4 interface
10:27.00phixmisdemeanor
10:27.10p3rrorbut ifconfig show only two
10:27.19p3rrorElDiabolo: any idea
10:28.10g00seIf ifconfig -a is showing only two then that suggests the other two are not enabled
10:28.21ElDiabolop3rror, Then the other two are not configured.
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10:29.33ElDiabolop3rror, Or is there a san?
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10:31.24p3rrorElDiabolo: how to list all interface in a linux
10:31.35ElDiabolop3rror, or any kind of high availability stuff.
10:31.36p3rrorfor example ifconfig -a show only configured interface
10:32.00ElDiabolop3rror, lspci shows you the pci bus.
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10:33.53p3rrorElDiabolo: if there re interface intergrated in the mother board
10:34.01p3rrorthey will not be listed
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10:37.03ElDiabolop3rror, lspci will list all pci devices, no matter if onboard or not. Might they be usb?
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10:38.12ElDiabolop3rror, Try inxi -N (you net to apt-get inxi)
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10:42.24p3rrorElDiabolo: in 70-persistent-net.rules there are for interface
10:42.30p3rroreth0,1,2,3
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10:44.51ElDiabolop3rror, This means these cards were present when the file was generated. There is a comment "This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_net_rules", right
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10:45.29ElDiabolop3rror, You could also try hwinfo --netcard (as root)
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10:48.00p3rrorOK ElDiabolo
10:48.02ElDiabolop3rror,  70-persistent-net.rules should also refer to the pci id, so you can check if the devices are still present.
10:48.10blackjackanyone debian + chess fan here?
10:48.12blackjacklol
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10:49.32at0m|cblackjack: #debian-offtopic
10:50.26blackjackno at0m|c
10:50.31p3rrorElDiabolo: thank you for these clarification
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10:50.50blackjacki wanted to ask if someone is able to install fishstock chess engine in debian
10:51.04blackjack(not the one on the repository that is version 2.x which is old) im talking of the new version 6.
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10:51.52nestoIs it possible to latest debian image on a current debian Lenny machine without removing users/groups and kerberos configurations ?
10:52.28phixblackjack: should I double down or split?
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10:53.16jellynesto: you're missing a verb in that sentence
10:53.49ElDiaboloblackjack, There is 5.0 stockfish in jessie.
10:54.14blackjacki dont like that ElDiabolo. i want the version 6.0 on the website
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10:54.18blackjackand im using version 7.8 still
10:54.38blackjacki wonder if anyone is able to run version 6.0 already. i was able to compile it and create a binary of stockfish
10:54.42blackjackbut i dont know how to proceed.
10:54.50phixblackjack: Do I need to get the same or higher to beat you?
10:54.53blackjacki also already have xboard
10:55.33nestojelly: install*
10:55.35blackjackxboard+ polyglot
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10:56.10blackjacki mean im still using version 7.8 debian
10:56.13nestoI run apt-get update but get GPG error, KEYEXPIRED ****
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10:56.42jellynesto: the only supported upgrade path is going from 5 to 6, then 6 to 7, then 7 to 8 (current).  You're on your own for anything else, set up a test environment and try your custom migration plan.
10:57.13ElDiaboloblackjack, Looks like you need to compile it yourself.
10:57.21blackjacki see.
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10:57.33blackjackElDiabolo, i was able to create a binary already
10:57.39jellydpkg, tell nesto about lenny sources.list
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10:57.51blackjackjust wanted to know what settings do i still need on my GUI program, which is xboard.
10:57.58blackjackand the binary seems working ok
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10:59.06blackjackby the way, i got this particular error when running the command i used to use when installing stockfish on the repository ... which is --> xboard -fUCI -fcp stockfish -sUCI -scp stockfish
10:59.07nestoyeah I changed the source.list to squeeze and it looks like it's working at the moment
10:59.17ElDiaboloblackjack, No idea.
10:59.20nestohopefully no users/groups will be deleted after this dist-upgrade
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11:00.06john___i'm having lots and lots of problems getting vice emulator to work under debian. through source OR apt-get.
11:00.15blackjacknow if i type the same thing. theres an error on GUI saying.."POLYGLOT:pipex_open():execvp(): stockfish:No such file or directory <press ok>
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11:00.32blackjackxboard gui that is…
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11:03.49ElDiaboloblackjack, It can't find the stockfish binary, try using the full path.
11:04.36nestoNow it asks about Chainload from menu.lst , not sure what that means
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11:06.47BCMMis there a mozilla composer-derived HTML editor available in Debian?
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11:09.08JohnnyLfixed it!
11:09.13JohnnyLls -latrs
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11:10.48blackjackElDiabolo, i got it now :s
11:10.58blackjacki just need to copy the binary file to /usr/games
11:11.00blackjacklol
11:11.08blackjackanyway, thanks. its now working :-)
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11:11.51SunOSslaps blackjack around a bit with a large trout!
11:11.59SunOSko praish e :)
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11:12.53phixSunOS: How's Oracle these days?
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11:13.56gaurishankar_which is the best distro option for linux server
11:14.07SunOSphix, you know it always could be better
11:14.29FooDeasHi! In Wheezy, preseeding hostname using "d-i netcfg/hostname string <hostname>" worked like a charm. In Jessie, it seems to be ignored (hostname keeps debian). Any ideas?
11:14.51phixSunOS: If only they could buy PostgreSQL, too bad it is opensource
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11:15.15phixSunOS: They have the settle with MySQL or Oracle
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11:16.00blackjackgaurishankar_ debian
11:16.12blackjackfor security and stability. thats only what i always know
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11:16.29dnsk_hi
11:16.39dnsk_blackjack, What are you doing man?]
11:16.56blackjackhahaha dnsk_. busy installing a chess engine based on opensource
11:17.05blackjackhow about you.
11:17.20dnsk_blackjack, awesome why did you quit the channel?
11:17.36blackjackwhat channel? I didnt??
11:17.49blackjackhaha :P
11:17.52dnsk_blackjack, yep sorry was someone else
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11:22.37SunOSphix, ;)
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11:23.25SunOSyou don`t like a opensource ?
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11:24.24__john_doe__hey guys, can anyone help mounting shared folder in vmware vm...
11:24.36__john_doe__I install vmware tools, added shared folder
11:24.41phixSunOS: who? me?
11:24.48SunOSyeah
11:24.51__john_doe__but I still get Error: cannot mount filesystem: No such device
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11:25.02phixI love open source
11:25.09FooDeasHi! In Wheezy, preseeding hostname using "d-i netcfg/hostname string <hostname>" worked like a charm. In Jessie, it seems to be ignored (hostname keeps debian). Any ideas?
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11:25.29phixSunOS: The first thing Oracle did when they bought Sun was make SunOS closed source again
11:26.21phixSunOS: They closed and shut you down man!! how can you live with that?
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11:29.16SunOSphix , Always about money, money is moving the world forward.
11:29.47IceBot3000Oracle are utter scumbags, never use their products if you can help it
11:29.58SunOSwhy you thought it did?
11:30.00BCMMIceBot3000: in other news, water is still wet
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11:30.57SunOShahah
11:31.33__john_doe__what do u mean money is moving the world forward... the things around us are not created by bankers, but by engineers
11:31.35at0m|conly slightly offtopic ^)
11:31.47phixSunOS: Drug lords have lots of money, does that mean you agree with destroying families?
11:31.56phixSunOS: are you a home wreacker?
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11:34.54SunOS__john_doe__ but tell me what an engineer is able to do anything without help from someone banker/investitors
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11:35.27__john_doe__SunOS: Check Nikola Tesla's patents
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11:35.52__john_doe__and anyway I came here for support not to argue my point :)
11:35.54SunOSphix , naturally i disagree
11:36.47SunOS__john_doe__ ;)
11:36.49phixSunOS: :P
11:36.59phixyeah __john_doe__ is in agreeance
11:37.10__john_doe__phix: lol
11:37.36__john_doe__SunOS: if u can assist me with vmhgfs on debian 8, I will agree with u :P
11:37.47phix__john_doe__: Have you been identifed yet?
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11:38.00__john_doe__phix: identified?
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11:38.06phix7es
11:38.06__john_doe__nah, Im magical method :P
11:38.08phixyes*
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11:38.47SunOS:P
11:38.56SunOSsorry  i`m such a lame
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11:39.03__john_doe__SunOS: not from oracle java :P
11:39.11phixSunOS: (you are great though, but don't quote me on that)
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11:40.13SunOS;)
11:40.15SunOSsorry
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11:41.35FooDeasHi! In Wheezy, preseeding hostname using "d-i netcfg/hostname string <hostname>" worked like a charm. In Jessie, hostname keeps "debian". I already checked the debconf-get-selections output of a manual installation - there's just one entry there (netcfg/get_hostname), but I've set that, too. Doesn't have anyone an idea??
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12:06.35yossarianukhi - I am using reprepro to add .deb packages to my (gpg signed) apt repo
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12:07.35yossarianukit works great except for the fact it removes the previous version of the package - how can I prevent reprepro removing the old file when I add a new debina file - via includedeb
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12:12.11phixabrotman: <3
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12:16.54yossarianuki.e when I use reprepro - for example 'reprepro -b /var/www/repo.monitiq.com/public/Linux/Ubuntu/test/ --keepunreferencedfiles includedeb trusty /home/jenkins/test-package_1.4.16-558_amd64.deb '
12:17.13yossarianukthis doesn;t delete the old version of the package but its unreferenced in apt.
12:17.47abrotmanyossarianuk: don't you want to ask #ubuntu?
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12:18.00phixabrotman: hi
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12:18.04abrotmanhi
12:18.17phixabrotman: What you up to tonight?
12:18.19themillreprepro only has one version of any package in a release at any time (just like the debian archive)
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12:18.27yossarianuke.g - how can I use reprepro to add a new version of a packaqe to the apt repo but also have the old version apt-getable
12:18.27abrotmanphix: hanging out with you?
12:18.31TheWardenHello
12:18.38yossarianukabrotman: because im going it in debian
12:18.39phixabrotman: You wanna beer?
12:18.47yossarianukand im following a debian guide
12:18.58yossarianuksorry - im doing it in debian
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12:19.11phixabrotman: pal it up nice
12:19.17TheWardenHow does one configure Exim 4 as a smarthost using SSL/smtps ? I've tried to locate material online yet so far I've not found anything.
12:19.21yossarianukthe ubuntu dir name is historical - my package works with ubuntu + debian (8)
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12:19.35phixyzT: Welcome bacl!
12:19.37phixback*
12:19.41abrotmanTheWarden: tried #exim?
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12:19.59yossarianukim following this -> https://wiki.debian.org/SettingUpSignedAptRepositoryWithReprepro
12:20.01phixTheWarden: I know all about exim
12:20.15yossarianukit works fine apart from deleting the old version when you add a new package
12:20.18phixTheWarden: it does SSL by default
12:20.21TheWardenabrotman: no one is in the channel
12:20.34phixTheWarden: if it cannot do SSL it fallsback to plaintext unless you tell it not to
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12:20.55TheWardenphix: it doesn't appear so... how do you configure it to do it with SSL?
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12:21.11phixTheWarden: It just does it
12:21.28phixTheWarden: you need to give it a X.509 cert first though of course
12:21.36phixv3 or what not
12:21.37TheWardenphix: oh mmm... well I'm not sure then why its not sending out emails then.
12:21.50TheWardenphix: oh mmmm
12:22.01phixTheWarden: probably the server your server is talking to doesnt support SSL
12:22.22phixor if it does it is denying SSL3 in which case that is a good thing
12:22.25phixSSL* is broken
12:22.27phixuse TLS
12:22.41TheWardenphix: it does and also supports TLS.
12:22.53phixTheWarden: so it will work
12:23.05phixIf not then read your log files
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12:27.50TheWardenphix: I see... okay well it doesn't work. this is all I've found in the log, R=smarthost T=remote_smtp_smarthost defer (-53): retry time not reached for any host
12:30.05anddamon #firefox I've been suggested to install gstreamer on my jessie with iceweasel from mozilla.debian.net in order to enable h.264, but I already have several packages installed, is there anything else I should be doing in order to enable h.264 support?
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12:31.56anddamnamely I already have https://gist.github.com/anddam/8f2ccf2784951f055b37
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12:35.57tuxcrafterupdate-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults
12:36.14tuxcrafteri get that warning and then my apt process stop on a lot of my systemd systems
12:36.22johnboy131i have 3 seperate partitions, root, home and swap. how can i reduce the home partition and extend the root?
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12:37.44themilltuxcrafter: warnings shouldn't be an issue -- pastebin of the entire output?
12:38.26TheWardenphix: this is all I have for log files and no I never see the emails, haven't seen any for days now. https://gist.github.com/thewarden/94c5a1548add1752117e
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12:38.56johnboy131nevermind ill just reinstall using the recomended single partition
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12:39.27johnboy131cant go wrong then lol
12:39.44dnsk_https://wikidevi.com/wiki/TP-LINK_TL-WN722N <-- does anyone have open firmware for this Device?
12:40.08tuxcrafterthemill: okay just found it exiting the process in a wierd way
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12:48.38[w_w]why does apt suggest apache stuff when I apt-get install php5?
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12:48.57jellydnsk_: a) that's not a Debian question at all b) try googling for TL-WN722N openwrt
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12:49.10dnsk_jelly, https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware#Open_firmware_for_ath9k_htc
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12:49.22dnsk_it is completely a Debian question only
12:49.28nkuttler[w_w]: php5 depends/recommends on the apache php5 lib, hence apache
12:49.37jellydnsk_: ha!
12:49.39dnsk_I want those .fw files only, jelly Can you help me please?
12:49.45jellyI stand corrected.
12:49.49dnsk_Np
12:49.57dnsk_Don't stand, kindly sit and help me please
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12:50.42Wo0rmerhey any one here to help me ??
12:50.46jellydnsk_: until debian notices the firmware now has an open source license, why not use the (exact same!) firmware packaged as non-free?
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12:51.17dnsk_jelly, I follow FSF, and use Debian Main repo only nothing else sorry,
12:51.22dnsk_I believe in Software freedom
12:51.48jellydnsk_: it's the exact same code, just noone has packaged it properly yet
12:51.49yossarianukdnsk_: good principled stand
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12:52.07yossarianukdnsk_: i dont understand why fsf doesn't recommend debian now.
12:52.23Wo0rmeri just ty to install a debian on my lap and i got thiss error while creting swap partition "the creation of swap space in partition #6  failed "
12:52.30adtech247what is the primary reason that debian moved to systemd?
12:52.43jellydnsk_: https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k_htc/open_firmware
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12:53.37Wo0rmerany one ?
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12:54.43jellydnsk_: see comment in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=751339#25
12:54.44juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/751339 in wnpp (open): «RFP: ath9k-htc-firmware -- free firmware for Atheros AR7010/AR9271 wireless adapters»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2014-06-11; last modified: 2015-01-23.
12:54.47dnsk_jelly, no internet on Jessie machine, kindly help me please
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12:55.20yossarianukWo0rmer: respawnable processes
12:55.27jellydnsk_: what more help do you need?
12:55.52Wo0rmerim just noob
12:56.12Wo0rmercan u just tell me more
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12:57.08dnsk_jelly, I need .fw files
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12:58.10jellydnsk_: they are in firmware-atheros.  You'll get the exact same two binaries if you build them yourself.
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12:59.06dnsk_jelly, Can I extract them from firmware-atheros.deb?
12:59.10dnsk_if so how?
12:59.27jellydnsk_: sure, dpkg --extract foo.deb somedir/
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12:59.50dnsk_jelly, ok thanks
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13:01.05jellydnsk_: you can probably figure it out from there, copy htc_9271.fw and htc_7010.fw to your own /lib/firmware/
13:02.06jellythose two will be moved to firmware-free at some point, see the linked bug report
13:02.41hosttorHello all, I am having problem with new installation on Lenovo X201. After installing jessie, there is no wifi, however I came accross the error below during installation which I skip.
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13:03.00dnsk_jelly, why both? I have only USB based 9271 devices?
13:03.26jellydnsk_: I didn't bother checking which precise chip you had, sorry
13:03.39hosttorThe missing firmware files are: iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode
13:03.55dnsk_jelly, hehe sorry
13:04.33jellyhosttor: you'll probably want to install firmware-iwlwifi package from non-free, can you connect using wired ethernet in the meantime?
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13:05.43jellydpkg, tell hosttor about non-free sources
13:05.55hosttorjelly: I am using mobile hotspot for installation
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13:07.24hosttorjelly: I successfully install the jessie OS by skipping The missing firmware files are: iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode error message.
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13:07.50hosttorjelly: The main issue is that I cannot connect to wifi
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13:08.36jellyhosttor: oh well, then get the package using some other machine and transfer it via usb
13:09.16hosttorWhere and how do I get the package?
13:09.18jellyhosttor: http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_0.43_all.deb
13:09.52hosttorjelly: I just download the package
13:10.11jellyhosttor: and install it with dpkg or gdebi
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13:11.00hosttorjelly: Ok
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13:16.54hosttorjelly: Yes, you are Jelly
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13:17.53jellywho wouldn't be jelly of a classical thinkpad
13:17.57hosttorjelly: You are Jelly because it works, you just solve my headeach because I haven't sleep since last night. Thank you so muck
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13:18.22JuslintekHi anyone using webmin and know how to properly setup virtual hosts?
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13:18.33JuslintekBecause now I get default debian page
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13:18.39Juslintekhttp://estlita.tk
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13:19.03Juslintekor http://estlita.tk:9000
13:19.09zykotick9!tell Juslintek about webmin
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13:21.05Juslintekzykotick9, when i google  whcp it returns me radios :-D
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13:22.38zykotick9!tell Juslintek about free whcp
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13:23.23zykotick9Juslintek: note, you can use "/msg dpkg foo" for any of the suggestions in <foo> in that factoid
13:23.29Juslintekzykotick9, can you recommend me something out of that big list?
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13:23.52zykotick9Juslintek: i can not, i don't use any of them.  best of luck.
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13:26.11Juslintekzycotick9, well I'm doing it not for myself, for my boss. I'm quitting my job. He knowns nothing of cli. He has no money, so can't hire another admin. So I want to help him. So he could push pretty buttons and everything would work.
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13:28.03hosttorjelly: Thank you so much.
13:28.06zykotick9Juslintek: sorry, i don't have any suggestions for you.  but i would "warn" against using webmin with debian... but YMMV (or your former bosses).
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13:28.13hosttorjelly: Bye
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13:29.14Juslintekzykotick9, what does YMMV mean? (he is my former boss, he has diabettes and other illnesses, but he needs money, so he is going to run business by himself, or till someone will help him).
13:29.22bendov3rI have a log file ( 190GB ) and i want to write the content from it to another file but only 10 GB for example, any suggestions ?
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13:31.23darxmurfdd ?
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13:31.29asterismoi need help on dmraid
13:31.32asterismoanyone?
13:31.35darxmurfdepends :D
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13:31.53asterismoi'm trying to restore a raid mirror array
13:32.06asterismoand i think debian is mounting only one of the disks
13:32.11bezabanbendov3r: just a specific part of the logfile, specific parts of each line, or do you want to compress it?
13:32.12asterismoand not the raid
13:32.18asterismoplease help
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13:33.50zykotick9Juslintek: sorry, "your mileage may vary" meaning, you may have different results
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13:34.44asterismoanyone on raid disks?
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13:35.10Juslintekzykotick9, thanx, but I'll stay with webmin, because its 3rd party template rocks and my boss loves it. Every Hosting Panel is exposed. Big hosting companies got it exposed as well. So user can manage servers themselves.
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13:35.52dnsk_jelly, you would be shocked to know the hash of Extracted version and built version if totally different
13:36.11JuslintekQuestion was, how to set up virtual host properly. So default debian webserver page wouldn't be loading no matter which virtual host you try to address to.
13:36.23jellydnsk_: yeah, probably a build timestamp or whatnot
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13:37.11dnsk_jelly, Ok, which one should I use?
13:37.16dnsk_Built one?
13:37.41HideMeI'm doing an upgrade and get the error:  rying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man1/mysql.1.gz', which is also in package mysql-client-core-5.5 5.5.30-1~dotdeb.0  configured to not write apport reports     dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)     Any ideas why?
13:37.48jellydnsk_: they're supposed to be functionally equivalent, but at least with the built one you're 100% sure it comes from the source
13:37.52darxmurfasterismo: what's your RAID name ?
13:38.01darxmurfmdadm --detail /dev/mdX
13:38.05themillHideMe: that would be yet another reason we recommend against dotdeb packages
13:38.09darxmurfwhat do you have with this command ?
13:38.17darxmurf(change mdX with your RAID name)
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13:38.28dnsk_jelly, ya I thought so, if I replace the firmware rigt now, how long would it take to effect?
13:38.44dnsk_if I removed the current one and copy this one to /lib/firmware
13:38.52HideMethemill  How can I proceed with the upgrade then?
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13:39.05themillHideMe: what are you actually upgrading from and to?
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13:39.26HideMethemill  Upgrading from squeeze to wheezy.
13:39.49HideMethemill  Changed my source list, running apt-get upgrade.
13:39.52d3lphiI am trying to run "stretchplayer". I have installed the package but I cannot start the program. It says it cannot connect to the server. What is Jack and what else do I need to install, so "stretchplayer" can run ?
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13:40.22themillHideMe: the release notes do recommend removing 3rd party packages prior to upgrading. You can also tell dpkg to force-overwrite
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13:41.08jellydnsk_: you have to shut down the network, modprobe -r the driver and modprobe it back.  Or reboot.
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13:42.15HideMethemill,  So an apt-get -f update should be sufficient?
13:42.27themillno
13:43.01at0m|cd3lphi: man jackd or run qjackctl if that's available
13:43.37at0m|cd3lphi: http://www.jackaudio.org/ for info
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13:44.27d3lphiat0m|c: I can run qjackctl, I see the window. But when I start "stretchplayer" it still doesn't run :(
13:44.36shay_shaybendov3r: logrotate
13:45.44at0m|cd3lphi: you need to not only open qjackctl, but start jackd from within it
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13:46.06at0m|cpress the big green play/start button
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13:47.19d3lphiat0m|c: unfortunately I cannot start it. as soon as I click on the start button, after 2 seconds I get this error ==> http://paste.debian.net/219478/
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13:48.29at0m|cd3lphi: "ALSA: Cannot open PCM device alsa_pcm for playback" either wrong device is selected or something else is using it
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13:49.16d3lphiinitially I installed the package "playitslowly" but it seems to be buggy on my computer (I am on Jessie BTW). I cannot forward/rewing the track actual playing. So I googled and did find "stretchplayer" but I cannot run it. Do I need to disable Alsa and switch to jack? Please be patient with me, I have no clue what ALSA is doing and how it interferes with Jack
13:50.17at0m|calsa is the linux audio drivers. jack is a layer on top that does all sorts of music production apps and hardware routing
13:50.43at0m|ctake your time to read about it on their site ^^
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13:51.29d3lphiat0m|c: I did read through the FAQ and WIKI of the jack URL you posted, but unfortunately it didn't help me. When I look at qjackctl settings, I can only choose ALSA as "driver" and many others. But I don't see anything about JACK related
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13:53.40asterismo_mis it possible that a raid comppsed by /dev/sda and /dev/sdb all of them has the same uuid?
13:54.24asterismo_mgparted shows /dev/sda2 having the same uuid of /dev/sdbw2
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13:55.27asterismo_mand the same uuid of /dev/mapper/xxxxxxx_fikesystem
13:56.05asterismo_mis that possible?
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13:56.21asterismo_mplease help
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13:56.34darxmurfno idea
13:56.36at0m|cd3lphi: in qjackctl, open setup. select alsa as you did, then select input and output devices
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13:56.48darxmurfbut what kind of error message you have when you try to build the RAID ?
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13:57.12OwnixHey guys I have a wlan1 and wlan0 in /etc/network/interfaces but I only have 1 WLAN card. Is it save to delete one of those blocks?
13:57.28OwnixFile is as follows:
13:57.45Ownixhttps://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/jr18uIGe/%2Fetc%2Fnetwork%2Finterfaces
13:57.50Phyliaresasterismo_m: "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/" ?
13:58.04asterismo_mdarxmurf: i dont get errors other than the rebuild flag at boot, is a fake raid
13:58.08at0m|cdisable the Realtime, set channels IO to 2. fiddle with middle column to tweak performance. then close settings window and press Start again on qjackctl 'main' panel
13:58.31asterismo_mbut it boots up either on /dev/sda or /dev/sdb
13:58.34asterismo_mstrange
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13:59.50d3lphiat0m|c: do I need to run qjackctl and stretchplayer as "root" to allow the allocation of memory somehow ??
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14:00.36at0m|cd3lphi: no root! at best, add yourself to the audio group, but you're in there already i suppose. /etc/group
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14:01.12at0m|cd3lphi: if you have vlc, it does fast/slow playback too, if that's all you're after.
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14:01.50d3lphiat0m|c: ok, I run qjackctl as my normal user, and I did find a "ingoin/outgoing" interface setup, that allows qjackctl to start. But as soon as I start "stretchplayer" and try to open an audio file, I get the error "Cannot lock down 82274202 byte memory area (not enough RAM)" why ?
14:02.02veekis there a way to fix autofs in jessie.. my ntfs-3g does not recognise the -s option
14:02.16d3lphiyes, I am member of the audio group already
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14:02.36d3lphiat0m|c: thanks for the hint with VLC, but I really want to try "stretchplayer"
14:02.49d3lphibecause I also want to "learn" the alsa/jack stuff :p
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14:03.30darxmurfasterismo_m: how is it configured ? do you load the RAID module ?
14:03.59at0m|cd3lphi: #alsa is more dedicated to music production. alsa:jack stuff
14:04.08d3lphiat0m|c: "man stretchplayer" says that it won't work if I am using a buffer size <=256. Where can I set this up?in qjackctl ?
14:04.18veeki get do_mount: /dev/sda4 /my/sda4 type ntfs-3g options user,exec using module generic
14:04.20asterismoPhyliares: https://paste.debian.net/219510/
14:04.32veekmount_mount: mount(generic): calling mount -t ntfs-3g -s -o user,exec /dev/sda4 /my/sda4
14:04.40at0m|cd3lphi: yes, in the settings of qjackctl, if that's what stretchplayer means
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14:05.29darxmurfasterismo: do you have the RAID module loaded ?
14:05.38asterismodarxmurf: how do i check?
14:05.44asterismoi have installed dmraid
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14:06.27d3lphiat0m|c: I did enter 384 as frame in+outgoing in buffer frames, but didn't help :(
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14:06.28darxmurflsmod | grep raid
14:06.45darxmurfor lsmod | grep md
14:06.52asterismonope
14:06.57asterismothat is bad
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14:07.12asterismooh my gosh
14:07.30asterismohow do i enable this module to load at atartup?
14:08.04darxmurfmodprobe raid1
14:08.07darxmurfmodprobe md
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14:08.32Ownerhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-how-to-load-a-kernel-module-automatically-at-boot-time/
14:08.34darxmurfyou will load in now
14:08.41darxmurfthen create your array
14:09.00darxmurfbut as your did boot from one disk or another it will messup de configuration :-/
14:09.09darxmurffiles changes in your disks
14:09.22darxmurfso, be careful :D
14:09.33asterismobut the disks seems to be syncing
14:10.08asterismodarxmurf: https://paste.debian.net/219521/
14:10.22d3lphiat0m|c: ok, but thanks a lot for assistane.
14:10.35d3lphis/assistane/assistance/
14:10.54asterismodarxmurf: https://paste.debian.net/219522/
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14:11.48asterismodarxmurf: it's a fake raid, like bios raid
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14:13.23Ownersoftware raid?
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14:13.42asterismoOwner: no, it's a bios raid
14:13.59darxmurfhmm
14:14.20darxmurfok sorry I was talking about dmraid. Those fake raid are always tricky :-/
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14:14.45darxmurfto be honest I tried 2 or 3 times to use them un der debian but it was never ok
14:14.50asterismodmraid is not supposed to deal with fakeraid?
14:15.06darxmurfI finally switched to full dmraid or dedicated RAID cards
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14:16.16asterismois it possible that debian is mounting single raid disks instead the raid?
14:16.28asterismoi see all raided partitions have the same uuid
14:16.57asterismolike /dev/sda1 with /devsdb1 for swap
14:17.06darxmurffakeraid is just like dmraid I think, you can boot only on one disk
14:17.15asterismoand /dev/sda2 with /dev/db2 for /
14:17.31darxmurfbut I was sure mdraid was able to manage that and recreate the array
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14:17.57darxmurfin the end if you can boot only on one disk, disable the fakeraid and create your mdraid array
14:18.25asterismodarxmurf: but can i do that without formatting?
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14:18.33francesco_Hello.
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14:18.47asterismoyou say migrating from fakeraid to softraid?
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14:19.59darxmurfI think so
14:20.04darxmurfbackup your stuff first :D
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14:28.23bald_bohemianHi everybody
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14:35.39nestoI'm about to install new Debian 8.1.0 but there are 3 DVD's to download, do I need all of them (it's about 12 GB) ?
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14:36.42bald_bohemiannesto - you can download the first dvd and use your internet connection to get any other packages that are needed during installation
14:37.05themillnesto: https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#which-cd
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14:39.14mnswhy is the gradle package so old in Debian ?  Debian has 1.5.2, whereas gradle currently is on 2.4.  I would expect 2.3 or 2.2 in Debian/testing.
14:39.29nkuttler,v gradle
14:39.29darxmurfnesto: juste download the first CD
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14:39.30juddPackage: gradle on amd64 -- jessie: 1.5-2; stretch: 1.5-2; sid: 1.5-3
14:39.56darxmurfthen apt-get install what you  need using your internet access
14:40.25themillmns: it looks like a case of "volunteers welcome"
14:40.26Fjorgynnapt-get update
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14:40.52Fjorgynnnesto: use the netinstaller if you have ethernet
14:41.02Fjorgynnunder 200 mb
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14:41.55mnsthemill: ahh ok.  that makes sense.  will have to check with the java maintainers.
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14:51.22kg25Is there a way to create a partial mirror with specific packages? I want to create a local mirror for netboot installs and general updates but I dont want to download the entire repo
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14:51.42litbhello all
14:51.52litbcan I run systemd as a normal process on debian wheezy?
14:51.53kg25(and if the package is not available on local it should fall back to another mirror)
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14:52.05litbi.e not as an init system, but just as a user instance (only)?
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14:52.10vampskg25: maybe https://wiki.debian.org/DebPartialMirror you can also use a proxy in order to cache package already downloaded
14:52.26litbjust for the purpose of creating nspwan'ed containers, that is
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14:53.33BoteMankg25: I was just reading the install guide yesterday where it talks about doing that exact thing. Just put your local file: source first in the list.
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14:55.53kg25vamps: that looks interesting I am going to try it once I setup my vms, will report back in a few
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15:17.47stacks88when i do nano +136 file.txt to open at line 136 it doesnt seem to work, anyone know why? it instead opens at the beginning of the file
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15:18.51vbexpertHave you got vBulletin? Want to get a Mod/Product/Style? No problem request one here https://www.criosphinx.net/boards/showthread.php?p=4#post4 and we'll get it from vbulletin.org and attach it!
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15:26.46Oficina_Hello good afternoon
15:26.55StanleyGoodmanhello
15:26.58vampshi
15:26.59Oficina_first of all i want to give thanks for helping in other moments
15:27.00Oficina_^
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15:27.11Oficina_i got a problem right now trying connect via ssh
15:27.14Oficina_to a remote server
15:27.32Oficina_im trying with putty but it doesnt access with "root" and root password
15:27.35Oficina_any idea????
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15:27.41azmodeushey there
15:27.47vampsOficina_: password is incorrect ? :)
15:27.56Oficina_ya it says it's incorrect
15:27.58Oficina_but it's correct
15:28.00Oficina_Z_Z
15:28.03vampsOficina_: maybe root login is disabled
15:28.19Oficina_how can i enable this???
15:28.24Oficina_any idea????
15:28.43Oficina_my boss @ kill me
15:28.47Oficina_>_>
15:28.57vampsin the file /etc/ssh/sshd_config you have an option "PermitRootLogin no" or "PermitRootLogin yes"
15:29.28NoImNotNineVoltyou can try connecting as a different user account and then doing `su`
15:29.44Oficina_okkk ill try
15:29.48Oficina_many thanks
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15:35.13c0mrad3any one has what kind of application that I have installed in my system http://snag.gy/Ld8Pm.jpg
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15:36.43jellyc0mrad3: that's an editor?
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15:37.25dnsk_jelly, which Photo Printing app would you suggest? for example if I have a Photo it must be able to print 6 Passport size pictures of me on a 4x6 inch photo paper
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15:37.34c0mrad3I meant the launcher type in gnome like dock or something jelly
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15:38.20jellydnsk_: I don't have an opinion on that
15:38.33dnsk_jelly, ok, it is sad, I don't know what to use
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15:39.14geoffmccDoes anyone know if there is a reason why installing nmap would cause uninstall of Gnome, or is this a bug?
15:39.22geoffmccsorry, uninstalling nmap
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15:40.03themillgeoffmcc: gnome depends on nmap
15:40.14Mouseygnome MUST probe your network
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15:40.22Mouseyit demands it!
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15:40.35Mouseytry apt-get remove nmap gnome+
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15:40.45themillerr... that won't do anything useful
15:40.57Mouseyor whateverpackagesitsaysitwantstoremovethatyoureallydontfollowedbya+
15:41.36geoffmccoh cool, i didnt know you could do that. I will look that up, thanks.
15:41.42Mouseyif gnome (or whatever package it says it wants to remove) -really must have- nmap, then my suggestion will barf. it if -doesn't- really -need- nmap, it'll work
15:41.52gnat_xso i recently upgraded an asus eepc to jessie, and am now having an issue where network manager is saying "Wi-Fi is disabled by hardware switch" when i hit Fn+F2, it swtiches to plain "Wi-Fi is disabled" when i check "Enable Wi-Fi" it goes back to telling me that the hardware is disabled.
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15:42.15themillgeoffmcc: Mousey's suggestion is irrelevant.
15:42.18gnat_xi've tried unblocking everything with rfkill, which didn't work.
15:42.33geoffmccMousey: I was just going to uninstall and then compile and install a newer version. I ended up just doing that anyways and all seems well. I just couldnt belive that Gnome would want nmap so badly
15:42.43geoffmccthemill: :-(
15:42.51Mouseywell if my suggestion barfs, then i agree. i can't believe it either
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15:43.13themillIt's possible to actually know the answers and not just make random suggestions....
15:43.38c0mrad3http://snag.gy/Ld8Pm.jpg and idea on what app is this one
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15:43.46Mouseytrue you can apt-cache show gnome and see if it REQUIRES nmap. that's true
15:43.55geoffmccI was thinking about submitting a bug report because it just dont seem right. I just figured I would ask around first before I possibly made an ass out of myself
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15:44.54Oficina_thanks everybody for helping
15:44.56Oficina_it worked
15:44.57Oficina_^^
15:44.57Mouseyif apt-get doesn't -retain- gnome with my suggestion, OR apt-cache show gnome SHOWS nmap as a requirement, then i'd call shenanigans
15:44.58themillgeoffmcc: gnome-nettool wants nmap and that's a decision that upstream has made. You can install as many gnome applications as you want without installing the gnome package.
15:44.59Oficina_nice people
15:45.18themillMousey: you're really not helping btw.
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15:45.25Mouseystfu's'
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15:45.41Mouseygoes back to lurking and secretly disliking gnome
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15:46.08geoffmccthemill: so its expected behavior..okay
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15:46.45themillgeoffmcc: the "gnome" package is defined as "everything upstream calls gnome including the gnome-kitchen-sink-tool"
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15:48.33geoffmccthemill: well thank you for clearing that up
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15:51.48random1hi everybody! i'm having trouble with screen fading on debian 8 with XFCE. even if i disabled screen fading and locking, if i don't give keyboard or mouse input, my system stops sending signals to my screen after 10 minutes, which is particulary annoying with watching a film or playing a game with a controller. does anyone know where it can come from?
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15:53.45StanleyGoodmananyone know all of the directories I need to mount to givie access to an x display within a chroot?
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15:54.22StanleyGoodman*give. I am trying to mount as little as possible for security reasons - so I don't want to just broadly mount nearly everything...
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15:56.28geoffmccrandom1: have you checked power management settings?
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15:58.03random1oh, geoffmcc answered my question, but I can't thank him ^^
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16:01.47karlpincStanleyGoodman: Chroots are not really designed for security.  Perhaps you need a <lxc> instead.
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16:06.38edoardohello
16:06.44edoardoi fucked up
16:07.03edoardoi accidentaly deleted a folder on an ext4 drive, is there a way to get them back?
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16:07.21edoardothe drive is 3tb, so scanning it all is a bit intensive
16:07.28edoardoi have the list of the deleted files tho
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16:08.04dnsk_is anyone else having issues opening up this Photos app?
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16:12.49dnsk_is anyone else having issues opening up this Photos app? kindly open and check people
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16:14.12Brigoedoardo, use testdiks, there is no easy way.
16:14.26towo`what should "this photo app" be?
16:14.35random1was about to ask the same thing towo`
16:14.39c0mrad3edoardo: better contact a forensics expert :)
16:14.50edoardoshiet
16:15.08edoardoi just used extundelete but it recovered only one file
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16:19.29CryptoSiDhttps://packages.debian.org/source/experimental/rtorrent how can i know if this package is compiled with --enable-ipv6, im not running experimental but I installed this package
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16:22.49towo`CryptoSiD, download the source, look in it
16:24.56CryptoSiDwhats the source file?
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16:25.05CryptoSiDthis http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/r/rtorrent/rtorrent_0.9.4-1.debian.tar.xz ?
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16:26.34towo`CryptoSiD, apt-get source rtorrent, givent you have the deb-src url in your sources
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16:27.12CryptoSiDthe source from stretch is 0.9.2, which wasnt supporting ipv6
16:27.42CryptoSiDi need the source for 0.9.4-1 (i dont know where to get it from)
16:27.51towo`CryptoSiD, you should realy learn some basics
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16:28.12towo`apt-get -t experimental source rtorrent
16:28.24CryptoSiDha right:|
16:28.32towo`but again, you need the right deb-src line in your sources
16:28.56towo`and you have to look in debian/rules for the used options
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16:31.50CryptoSiDoverride_dh_auto_configure:
16:31.50CryptoSiD<PROTECTED>
16:31.56CryptoSiDmean its compiled with --enable-ipv6?
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16:32.34abrotmanOne would think
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16:33.58CryptoSiDya well Its still unable to bind to an ipv6: rtorrent: Error in option file: ~/.rtorrent.rc:46: Could not set local address: Address family for hostname not supported. but this isnt related to debian anymore
16:34.05CryptoSiDthanks towo`!
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16:38.19cybrNautso we now need a "numlockx" package just to have the numlock enabled on boot
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16:38.24cybrNautthat sucks
16:38.29cybrNautwheezy didn't need that
16:38.55f-aI am installing jessie on qemu (slooooow). What does the automated installation installs? a barebone system of a gui one?
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16:39.51cybrNautf-a: gnome3 is the default
16:39.51babilenf-a: What do you mean by "automated" ? (and are you using kvm?)
16:41.01towo`gnome and kvm/qemu does not fit since gnome3 needs hardware 3d
16:41.12f-ababilen: from the main menu >> advanced options >> automated install
16:41.25towo`and the standard cirrus graphics is even slow as hell for gnome fallback
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16:41.51f-ababilen: no, no kvm
16:42.40StanleyGoodmani have a schroot, set up, and a debian base system installed -- by default, where are the logs kept? there is no /chroot/var/log/syslog
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16:44.15StanleyGoodmanError: cannot open display: 127.0.0.1:0.0 ---- am I doing this wrong?
16:44.34towo`doing what?
16:44.56towo`and what should log inside the chroot?
16:45.10towo`ther is no logging-daemon running
16:45.23StanleyGoodmanahahahahahahahahahaha I just got it working. pale moon just opened
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16:45.57StanleyGoodmani see. so I need to start a logging daemon in order to get logs
16:46.57towo`i would say, this will not work
16:47.06towo`since this is only a chroot
16:47.21towo`but maybe i'm wrong, never tested or needed
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16:50.53StanleyGoodmanas long as it works... I do not need logs. lol
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17:13.12Iridos<StanleyGoodman> as long as it works... I do not need logs. lol <---- or backups
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17:15.14x86dkHi folks, I just updated to jessie, after that qmail isn't starting up   any ideas ?
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17:16.48x86dktried add SV:12345:respawn:/command/svscanboot to /etc/inittab  worked in wheezy
17:17.33x86dkand /etc/init.d/rc.local added csh -cf '/command/svscanboot &'
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17:22.11StanleyGoodmanI have an issue on shutdown... due to an update or something a change I made a while ago, when I shut down, I do not see the output of shutdown processes --- all I see is a blinking "_" and after a minute or so the computer finishes shutting down and powers down
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17:26.47StanleyGoodmanany idea where I should start looking?
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17:34.09anddamI want to rebuild a package adding a configure option, I followed ssb factoid and have the necessary deps (included the ones for the feature I'm enabling) but where's the file describing the configuration?
17:34.19anddamI'm looking into debian/
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17:42.04sharp15is there a way to have the wifi network connect on boot (results of using /etc/network/interfaces) but have the network monitor applet in kde/gnome still function?
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17:43.44sharp15the applets are currently blank and won't show the existing connection inspite of a working wifi connection.
17:43.49tobiasBoraHello !
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17:44.26kitallisis there a chart of any sort, that compares vulnerabilities by popular linux distros, in the last few years?
17:45.04kitallis(this might not be the best place for this question, but I'm a debian user so looking from that perspective)
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17:47.28tobiasBoraLittle question : I did a "dd if=/dev/sdc of=file.img" and I would like to mount the partitions that are in this file, how could I do ? I tried to play with mount -o loop but I have error like "fs not detected"...
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17:48.28towo`tobiasBora, https://major.io/2010/12/14/mounting-a-raw-partition-file-made-with-dd-or-dd_rescue-in-linux/
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17:58.08tobiasBoratowo`: Great thank you it works great !
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18:04.20tobiasBoratowo`: When I do that, are the modifications reported in the .img file ?
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18:04.38towo`yes
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18:11.23StanleyGoodmanmate-settings-daemon is 4.6gb and was using 60%+ of my cpu.... any idea why?
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18:20.10tobiasBoratowo`: Ok thank you
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18:23.06StanleyGoodmanis flashplugin-nonfree depreciated? what is the current recommended package?
18:23.41acz32what makes you think it's deprecated*
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18:24.23StanleyGoodmanit appears not available to me through the default repositories
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18:24.49acz32it's obviously non-free
18:24.55RichN_when building a pkg where to you set it to append the distro to the pkg
18:24.57acz32so you won't find it in the default repositories
18:25.09bugaloohi all! I have an old HP laptop model (dv2000) and it was running ubuntu 12.04. I just formatted it and installed Debian 8 Jessie. Since then, I can't connect my work wifi. I can connect my home wifi using wpa, my android hotspot, but not my work wifi. There is no wep or wpa (the auth is web-based) and I was able to connect it using the same laptop before with ubuntu. In syslog it seems that it connects the SSID but can't negotiate dhcp.
18:25.09bugalooAny help?
18:25.40StanleyGoodmanyep, I forgot to add the non-free repo. my bad.
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18:28.25StanleyGoodmanbugaloo, have you implemented a restrictive firewall? android and home hotspots likely use 192.168.1.1 or similar, whereas your work wifi likely has a different IP range.
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18:32.14bugalooStanleyGoodman, I have the almost default installation of debian here. Actually, I had same problem with some android devices. Most can connect, but a few can't. I dont have access the the wifi router. Just want to figure out what I could change in the client, one I could connect using the same network adapter and laptop with another OS.
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18:33.27bugalooStanleyGoodman, still, I dont get an IP address. If I had a firewall problem, I'd have an IP but couldn't connect, right?
18:35.19asterismohi people
18:35.42asterismoi need help on planning a system backup and restore in a migration from fakeraid to software raid
18:36.00asterismocan anyone help me? i need to backup a lot of things and i don't want to loose anything
18:36.13asterismomysql, apache, owncloud, drupal, phpbb
18:36.24asterismoand files
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18:37.52fnstudiohi! i just ran an apt-get distupgrade on my laptop (unstable). now audio is dead. any tips?
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18:38.30acz32fnstudio: if you just ran it, scroll up and see if anything was uninstalled. dist-upgrade can remove packages from your system
18:38.44acz32generally it's only used to upgrade from one release to another
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18:39.24acz32also, unstable isn't really supported here because stuff like that wouldn't happen in stable
18:40.13tobiasBoraI would like to run functions like foremost, extundeleted... on a file .img got with "dd if=/dev/sdc...", how could I use it since I don't have a /dev/xxx file ?
18:40.50c0mrad3I can't change the shortcuts in xfce how to fix it ??  for example how to change the  Cycle windows of same application  to alt + ~ ??
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18:41.19fnstudioacz32: right, thanks a lot, i'll have a look right away
18:42.06c0mrad3got it fixed :)
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18:45.01fnstudioacz32: hm, it looks like nothing relevant was removed (only tracker-utils)
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18:48.10fnstudioacz32: ah i saw your comment /re unstable - well i guess it makes sense
18:48.18fnstudioto some extent
18:49.56asterismoanyone?
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19:02.55asterismoanyone has experience in backing up systems and restore them?
19:03.20asterismoi need to migrate from a fakeraid to a softraid and i need advice on backing up stuff
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19:04.37gebjgdasterismo, squashfs
19:05.38asterismosquashfs?
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19:05.57asterismogebjgd:
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19:06.06anddamafter building a package with dpkg-buildpackage is there a log of the build stored somewhere?
19:06.18gebjgdasterismo, livecd then mksquashfs
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19:07.08asterismogebjgd: i'm not familiar with squashfs, that will allow me to restore a server?
19:08.08gebjgdasterismo, RTFM
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19:08.54asterismoRTFM?
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19:09.14gebjgdasterismo, google squashfs backup
19:09.17wheezyPUPput your Right Foot in your Mouth
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19:15.19asterismogebjgd: tell me, i use this to periodically backup my server, files and stuff, would this work for backing up everything and then restore this folders on top of a fresh installed system? http://paste.debian.net/219812/
19:15.47asterismogebjgd: maybe it's similar to squashfs in some way
19:16.14gebjgdasterismo, wait, what kind of data that you wanna backup? your System or your data?
19:16.26asterismothe entire system
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19:16.35asterismothis /var/www
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19:16.42asterismothis /etc/apache...
19:16.56gebjgdasterismo, then squashfs
19:17.00asterismoi have to format and reinstall to migrate my fakeraid to a soft raid
19:17.07gebjgdasterismo, that is ok
19:17.22asterismogebjgd: what is ok, the rsync approach?
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19:17.56gebjgdasterismo, rsync is the simplest way but not the best
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19:18.05asterismoi have SSL keys, irc server, crontab jobs, users and their homes...
19:18.14gebjgdasterismo, squashfs
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19:18.59asterismowill squashfs deal with this ok? i mean, i know i cannot restore the /boot folder
19:19.12asterismoso i can exclude the /boot folder from rsync
19:19.34asterismobut i dunno if squashfs will fulfill my needs
19:19.56asterismowhat really does squashfs?
19:20.27gebjgdasterismo, RTFM
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19:21.28asterismook, so why do you think rsync is not the best option for this?
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19:21.56gebjgdasterismo, google rsync vs. squashfs
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19:23.47petn-randallgebjgd: ?
19:24.33petn-randallgebjgd: Why would squashfs be a backup solution?
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19:25.06gebjgdpetn-randall, easy
19:25.12wheezyPUPbecause its smaller ?
19:25.13gebjgdpetn-randall, and fast
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19:26.21petn-randallgebjgd: squashfs is a filesystem, asterismo is asking for ways to backup data, not to store them.
19:26.40asterismoi don't care if its fast and small
19:27.14bugaloohi all. I just replaced ubuntu 12.04 on my laptop to use debian 8 jessie. Since then, I can't connect my network wifi. There is no wep or wpa (auth is web-based after wireless is connected). I can connect other networks (like home) and I could connect my work wireless before using the same laptop with ubuntu. If it helps, some phones can't connect either the work wireless, so I'm guessing there is some resource some phones can't use and t
19:27.14bugaloohe same is going on with my debian installation. any help?
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19:27.17asterismoi just want to backup an entire system, user accounts, apache, mysql, drupal, phpbb, folders like /var/www, /etc...
19:27.21gebjgdpetn-randall, he wants to backup system. squashfs is the best way
19:27.32asterismothen format the nasty fakeraid i have and install a software raid
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19:27.56asterismoand install a fresh system and throw the backed up files, on top of the fresh system
19:28.01petn-randallbugaloo: You're likely missing the firmware for your wifi.
19:28.16asterismoobviously not the /boot folder and maybe other things
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19:28.22bugaloopetn-randall, but I can connct other wireless networks, including some using crypt
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19:28.37petn-randallasterismo: Can you take the server offline? If yes, reboot into a live system, then backup the whole system with rsync or rdiff-backup.
19:28.56asterismorsync like this? http://paste.debian.net/219812/
19:29.04petn-randallbugaloo: What kernel module is your wifi using?
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19:29.05asterismoi can take it offline yes
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19:29.40asterismomaybe i have to add /boot folder to excluse ones?
19:29.51petn-randallasterismo: If you don't want to backup everything, you of course have to decide what you *don't* want to backup.
19:30.09bugaloopetn-randall, iwl3945. and this is my lspci output: Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
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19:30.22asterismopetn-randall: no, i just don't want to restore boot files, grub etc
19:30.44gebjgdasterismo, using squashfs that just like a livdcd, your system can be reused through the chroot
19:30.46asterismothat may conflict with the system boot up
19:30.48petn-randallasterismo: If you don't mind wasting a little extra space, just backup *everything*, and just restore the things you need.
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19:30.58gebjgdasterismo, rsync not
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19:31.57petn-randallasterismo: I recommend doing a dump of the database though, in case you upgrade the database and the binary data changes.
19:32.04onoruaHow to configure multiple bonding interfaces with Debian 8 (systemd)?
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19:32.19gebjgdasterismo, you know something about docker and LXC?
19:32.27onoruaWhen I configure second bonding interafces, it simply reject to boot
19:32.29petn-randallonorua: look into ifenslave (easier, but older), or libteam (newer, but needs more manual work).
19:32.35asterismopetn-randall: i mean, cron jobs, init scripts, user passwords, and server databases... that will be restored fine if i restore /etc /var /usr folders?
19:32.49asterismogebjgd: no, i'm quite a newbie
19:32.57gebjgdasterismo, then use squashfs
19:33.09asterismoi'm mantaining the server of an astronomical observatory, i'm an astronomer
19:33.29bugaloothat's new, hehe
19:34.02gebjgdasterismo, i backup all the servers with squashfs and loop mount them, start them will lxc or docker
19:34.17petn-randallgebjgd: That's not what asterismo asked for.
19:34.20gebjgdasterismo, put your host Linux server into container
19:34.32bugalooI would create an aliase to use tar like: star -cf file.tar /    hehehe
19:34.39petn-randall!kiss
19:34.39dpkgkiss is probably Keep It Simple Stupid!!!
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19:35.15asterismolol
19:35.26gebjgdpetn-randall, he want to backup the whole system, is that not right?
19:35.52asterismoi was hoping there would be a easy solution using rsync which i have used many times and feel pretty secure about it
19:36.03petn-randallgebjgd: What does asterismo need a virtualization solution for? That's not what he asked for.
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19:36.24knosysHi guys
19:36.28asterismothat's why i was asking if this approach was a good one, maybe modifying some bits: http://paste.debian.net/219812/
19:36.33petn-randallgebjgd: And that still doesn't solve how to backup the host system, so you're just complicating things.
19:36.58knosysits someone having problems with mirror http://ftp.es.debian.org/  ?
19:37.20petn-randall!tell bugaloo -about iwl3945
19:37.40knosys[Connecting to ftp.es.debian.org (82.194.78.250)]
19:37.48knosysstucked there
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19:37.52petn-randallbugaloo: Check what dpkg sent you, you'll need firmware for it to work with (IIRC) WPA2. It works a little bit without, but not fully.
19:37.55asterismopetn-randall: this is my situation, i have a server on a fakeraid. It is not working well, it boots up with disk A or B sometimes, and not the raid
19:37.55knosyson aptitude update
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19:38.43asterismopetn-randall: so i want to backup the system, in which apache with drupal, phpbb, owncloud and irc, ftp, nto and ssh is running
19:38.59asterismoand format, and install a new software raid
19:38.59petn-randallasterismo: Then use rsync to back it up (offline!), then restore it after you changed the RAID. You'll still need to fix a little of the config though (mainly /etc/fstab, and also /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf)
19:39.00knosysUhmm this is weird.. Why could this be happening? The address seems to be down
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19:39.03wheezyPUPto me that sounds like the raid wasnt set up correctly... not advice really, but I never saw that problem with raid
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19:39.33petn-randallknosys: Works fine from here. Press ctrl + c, and retry.
19:39.38bhishmadpkg: mirror
19:39.39dpkgDebian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <httpredir.debian.org>, <debian mirror checker>.  To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <ftpsync>, <mirror size>.  #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net.
19:39.43bhishmaknosys: ^
19:39.49bugaloofirmware-iwlwifi is already installed . it recognizes my network adapter. I can connect other wifi networks.
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19:40.18asterismopetn-randall: so i would do a system reinstall, and then replace everything but fstab and /boot right?
19:40.36petn-randallasterismo: I would only restore the things you need, not everything.
19:40.54bugaloopetn-randall,  firmware-iwlwifi is already installed . it recognizes my network adapter. I can connect other wifi networks.
19:41.00asterismopetn-randall: but how to know where things are? i have too many things
19:41.04asterismousers and passwords
19:41.08asterismocron jobs
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19:41.18asterismoand /var/www
19:41.19gebjgdasterismo, then use squashfs, then you have everything
19:41.36asterismodid you looked at this?: http://paste.debian.net/219812/
19:41.42gebjgdasterismo, then just cp them back to your harddisk
19:41.44asterismoi'm backing up everything...
19:41.47petn-randallbugaloo: Hmm, then check /var/log/kern.log and daemon.log if there are any error messages.
19:42.14asterismomy question is what sistem file will conflict with the new installed system in regard of the raid configuratino
19:42.38bugaloono error. it seems to go 4/5 steps ok, and just the 5/5 step dhcp goes timeout
19:43.34knosysbhishma: petn-randall thanks, ill checkout the IP address
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19:44.22bugaloopetn-randall, the only clue is this: <warn> Activation (wlan0/wireless): association took too long, failing activation.
19:44.38asterismoshould y backup /proc /dev /sys /run /tmp /mnt ?
19:44.58bugalooanyway, I have to go. Thanks for help petn-randall .
19:44.59sukapxCan anyone point me to a up to date howTo for a Kernel Driveer with Hardware Register access? Would be awesome !
19:45.00asterismoor those are volatile folders?
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19:45.30gebjgdasterismo, that is why i use squashfs to backup the whole /
19:45.50gebjgdasterismo, after that i have my whole system there, then i can run it with chroot
19:46.12linuxthefishhi, why do i fix "W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/Release.gpg  Cannot initiate the connection to security.debian.org:80 (2001:a78:5:1:216:35ff:fe7f:6ceb). - connect (101: Network is unreachable) [IP: 2001:a78:5:1:216:35ff:fe7f:6ceb 80]" ?
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19:47.39wheezyPUPlinuxthefish  are you trying to install with an older set of debian CDs ?
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19:48.42linuxthefishwheezyPUP i used the source list generator on http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ :/
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19:49.26wheezyPUPIm guessing its asking for an address that is no longer active
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19:54.18linuxthefishis there a program that simulates the installer mirror selection?
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19:56.38knosysGuys could someone help me? this error message
19:56.43knosysW: Failed to fetch http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/contrib/binary-i386/Packages  Unable to connect to ftp.es.debian.org:http:
19:57.09wheezyPUPtry another mirror ?
19:57.15knosysat the end of it.. why ? ftp.es.debian.org:http: , instead of http://ftp.es.debian.org
19:57.18knosyswheezyPUP: sure
19:57.23knosysI just want to know the reason
19:57.27knosysbecause other people is using that mirror
19:57.32linuxthefishknosys i think the mirrors having some issues
19:57.32wheezyPUPhmm
19:57.37knosysIm afraid about some security meassure
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19:57.40knosysI am being paranoic?
19:57.48knosysAh okay, thanks
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19:58.14knosysa coincidence then... because i was just messing, adding weechat mirrors, and installing apt-transport-https
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19:58.42wheezyPUPjessie is still new... lots of people overloading server maybe
19:58.57knosysthe thing is
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19:59.06knosysthat i can connect to it through website
19:59.25zykotick9linuxthefish: personally, i think those 3rd party source generators are a bad idea...
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20:01.25zykotick9!tell linuxthefish about jessie sources.list
20:01.27knosysanyway.... It updates a lot ... until some point.. and always fail in the same step
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20:05.24nick[0]regrettably I've needed to use acroread to open some government forms...it detects my working printer, but unfortunately can't communicate with the printer.  Suspecting libraries were missing I ran ldd on all the binaries in /opt/Adobe...yup, many missing.  I think the quickest way to fix them would be to tell manually tell dpkg that adobereader-enu provides acroread so I can use the debian-acroread from the marillat-repo
20:05.45onoruaguys, I've tried to search for multiple bonding interfaces for debian, I've got a hint to search for ifenslave, it's already installed on my systemd,maybe you have an example of multiple bonding interfaces already working on your system? Will hihjly appreciate it
20:06.05nick[0]how can I do this?  (I don't want to install acroread-debian with --force)
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20:07.38linuxthefishstill W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs:9D6D8F6BC857C906
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20:08.16nick[0]onorua:  Assuming you have four eth interfaces, you'll put     slaves eth0 eth1
20:08.47nick[0]under iface bond0, and slaves eth2 eth3 under bond1  (I think, but I don't have experience with this)
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20:09.17onoruanick[0]: I wish that would be so easy :)
20:09.22wheezyPUPnick[0] would another reader work ?
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20:11.59nick[0]wheezyPUP, not unless it supports encryption, XFA forms, and being able to pull things from the government site with SSL.
20:12.23wheezyPUPahh fancy adobe functions, yea
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20:16.29nick[0]Aha!  I could modify the control file of debian-acroread to depend on acroread | adobereader-enu...it's worth a shot ;-)
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20:19.05nick[0]...nope, it explicitely conflicts :/
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20:21.20Brigonick[0], did you try something like this? https://www.pdfescape.com/
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20:24.52nick[0]Brigo: I can't, it's confidential stuff...
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20:52.42ryoumacan anybody think of a tool in debian, in the same sort of category as uniq or join, that will sum column 1 for each unique column 2?  i.e. like an sql group operation, but with no sql.  datamash maybe can do it but it isn't in wheezy.
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20:53.13phoggryouma: If not you can create this tool with a small pipeline, I believe.
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20:54.08ryoumai suppose i could try to do it in awk, but was hoping it was done already in some tool
20:54.52ryoumai did it in sqlite, but there are impedance matching issues
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20:57.14phoggryouma: I'd do it in bash, because that's more fun (-;
20:58.15ryoumahuh, more less fun in my case :)
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20:58.29Agiofwshttp://paste.debian.net/219876/
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21:03.49[w_w]If the passwd line hows !* the account is locked. If i leave the password empty I can login without password?
21:04.26asterismohow can in get the list of installed packages?
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21:05.07asterismoin fact i want to re-download (saving them in the cache) the installed packages to gain some time when reinstalling the server
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21:13.49asterismoanyone?
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21:15.36shay_shaydpkg -l
21:15.37dpkgFiles in package shay_shay-pr0n: /srv/shay_shay-pr0n/shay_shay.jpg
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21:17.20shay_shayasterismo: that one is for free, however, usually people won't answer questions in which the asker made no attempt to check documentation...
21:17.32shay_shayman dpkg
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21:18.27asterismoshay_shay: ok, thanks
21:18.40asterismowho reads documentations anyway
21:18.44asterismoxD
21:18.46shay_shaywe do
21:18.48asterismojust kidding
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21:18.52asterismoi know
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21:20.12shay_shayalso if you pipe it to awk: dpkg -l | awk  '{print $2}' | sort
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21:20.55shay_shay$2 gives the second column
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21:37.58phoggryouma: That was fun: http://paste.debian.net/219918/
21:40.05ryoumaphogg: thanks, i will take a look.  i also found filo groupby in wheezy.
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21:40.47metallicOk people, I am right now on Debian wheezy. I want to run an OS image on a virtual machine. I downloaded qemu source tarball but I cannot get it to work :(
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21:40.59phoggryouma: Nothing could be less efficient than the bash version, unless you tried really hard.
21:41.11metallicI have installed it from the repos
21:41.33metallichow can one run an ISO on qemu?
21:41.45phoggryouma: But I've also been writing a lot of pure bash utilities that already exist... it's an amusing hobby.
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21:49.05dpkgQEMU is a fast PC emulator.  http://qemu-buch.de/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/FrequentlyAskedQuestions  http://www.qemu.org/  #qemu on irc.freenode.net.  See also <kvm>, <virtualization>.
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21:55.53otyughI've got a big problem with xfce in jessie
21:56.03otyughxfdesktop just does not handle drag 'n drop correctly
21:56.09otyughit copies everything
21:56.21otyughI know this behaviour was corrected on newer versions
21:56.35otyughbut is there something to do without going out the debian's support zone ?
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22:27.09AdnnWhy am I being required to install Java 6 when I'm trying to remove Java 7 ?!?!
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22:29.38at0m|cAdnn: because something is dependant on java 6 or 7 ?
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22:31.25Adnnat0m|c, problem solved I guess. I just wanted it to default to Java 8, and I just read about the update-alternatives
22:31.38at0m|cAdnn:)
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22:48.36iahchello folks, i'm too dumb to mount something atm and could use some help.
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22:49.37iahci've got a sd card that seems to have reached the end of its lifetime and switched to read-only mode.
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22:50.33iahci'd like to mount a ext4 partition from inside a lvm volume
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22:53.39iahcext4 journal contains data, fsck is unable to fix the problem.
22:55.08phixok apt-get update has frozen, it is stuck on this --> 100% [Working]
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23:05.35blixtencan i dualboot x86 and x64 arch on the same usb stick? with a live version of debian
23:05.57blixtenwithout going for a pure x86 version that is
23:06.11internathi team, not sure where the right place to ask is.. but im using ipsec/xl2tpd to connect my debian box as a vpn client to a l2tp vpn server.. i cant seem to find a way to make it automaticly reconnect if disconnected.. any suggestions
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23:10.23somiajblixten: there are ways to boot multiple iso's from a single flash drive, so if you can set that up then yes you can.
23:10.49somiajblixten: but the default live images are not setup to put more than one image on a usb drive due to configuing the bootloader to be able to choose between the two.
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23:12.02blixtenok
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23:12.55somiajblixten: the more popular choice is to set it up so you can have live-images or installers for vaiours distros and you can google for guides on this
23:13.04somiajblixten: but I like your idea of all the images being debian. (:
23:14.49blixten:P
23:14.50blixtenyeah
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23:15.36blixtenjust wanna be able to boot any comp with live debian, and not bump into architect problems, and in the same time still be able to benefit from x64 if avaible
23:15.54blixtenso just need two live sets
23:16.00Brigoblixten, there is debian multiboot images.
23:16.07blixtenoh :o
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23:18.17pankidI can't seem to get networking working after upgrading from debian 7 to 8. I have eth0 configured for a static ip
23:18.53pankidwhen I reboot it starts as down. When I do an ip link set eth0 up, it comes up, but is not able to ping anything.
23:18.59somiajBrigo: live images? I thought just the installer was multiboot?
23:19.17Brigosomiaj, yes, i was talking about installer, yes.
23:19.21somiajblixten: I know there is a multi-arch installer image (the default one youg et from the debian.org webpage)
23:19.30somiajBrigo: Ahh yea, I didn't mention those as I thought he wanted live images.
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23:19.45somiajnot sure on if there are live images setup already or not.
23:19.47Brigoblixten, was talking about install debian in his last message.
23:19.49blixtenah yeah
23:19.54blixteni saw, no live :(
23:20.47somiajpankid: can you ping the actual ip address of the device? Have you checked either ifconfig or ip if the addr is set up correctly?
23:21.07pankidsomiaj: I mean to include that in my message. I cant ping 8.8.8.8 or my gateway
23:21.13pankidI am getting no network traffic
23:21.39somiajpankid: well the first thing you do is try to ping your own ip, (:
23:21.39pankidmy ip does not show up in ip addr, but /etc/network/interfaces is correct
23:22.03pankidsomiaj: network unreachable
23:22.09somiajpankid: care to share your /etc/network/interfaces at paste.debian.net and maybe 'ip addr' as well
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23:24.40pankidsomiaj: here is my etc/network/interfaces http://paste.debian.net/220013/
23:25.16somiajpankid: does it come up with 'ifup eth0'?
23:26.00pankidnot that I see
23:26.09Brigopankid, then check logs
23:26.27somiajpankid: so you get no output but yet the interface is not comming up?
23:26.28Brigopankid, what is the output of eth0?
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23:26.45pankidoh
23:26.46pankidsorry
23:26.48Brigopankid, what is the output of ifup eth0, i meant
23:26.49pankidI misunderstood.
23:27.41pankidrun-parts: failed to exec /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/iptables: no such file or directory
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23:28.18somiajpankid: that is your error, though not sure what hook is calling that script
23:28.21Brigopankid, that is a failing script , check it.
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23:28.42pankidyeah, thanks guys
23:28.49pankiddidnt know about ifup.
23:28.54pankidprobably an issue with iptables-persistent
23:28.56somiajmight be one of the other hooks in /etc/network
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23:30.05somiajsounds like it, one of the network hooks is not working. And ifup is the script that parses the interfaces file and brings the interfaces up and down. All the auto line does is tell which devices to bring up with 'ifup --all'
23:30.15Brigopankid, yes, iptables-persistent is no more in 8. Now it is called netfilter-persistent and works different.
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23:30.34pankidBrigo: cool. I will have to look into that
23:30.57pankidremoving iptables in if-pre-up.d did the trick
23:30.59pankidthanks guys
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23:31.22Brigopankid, you are welcome ;)
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23:35.57thebuccaneersdenweird debian issue going on. debian 7.0. for some reason, apt-get is being spawned many times and is spirally out of control until the machine dies
23:36.08thebuccaneersdenanyone know anything about this? not even sure how to google for it
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23:37.13Brigothebuccaneersden, into a container?
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23:37.43thebuccaneersdenthis is my current ps aux
23:37.45thebuccaneersdenhttp://pastebin.com/5sbfcCcT
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23:38.39thebuccaneersdenDont think so
23:38.43thebuccaneersdenhere’s a pstree
23:38.45thebuccaneersdenhttp://pastebin.com/YQrnN6b2
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23:39.05Brigothebuccaneersden, i have this problem into a container, and only into a container.
23:39.16Brigothebuccaneersden, that's why i have asked.
23:39.44thebuccaneersdenim not using containers for anything (i presume you are tlaking about containers like docker (or jails))
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23:41.47Brigothebuccaneersden, right, i am talking about that, yes.
23:42.00Brigothebuccaneersden, did you check for reported bugs?
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23:43.26thebuccaneersdennot in depth no
23:43.32thebuccaneersdenim just trying to keep my server alive
23:43.37thebuccaneersdenfor now
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23:44.25thebuccaneersdenif it was a runaway cron, i imagine i would see it under the cron process rather than attached to init
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23:45.16thebuccaneersdenthis is truly odd, never seen a bug like this before
23:45.30Brigothebuccaneersden, check this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=442189
23:45.32juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/442189 in apt (open): «infinite(?) loop during update, possible race condition»; severity: important; opened: 2007-09-13; last modified: 2009-04-09.
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23:48.30thebuccaneersdenthat looks similar  in nature, but thats from 2007
23:48.34thebuccaneersdenheh'
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23:48.52thebuccaneersdenit’s stopped doing it but im going to upgrade all my packages and reboot
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23:49.02thebuccaneersdenhopefully that will make it go away
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23:54.36p8mHow long should it take a message to show up on a mailing list? I've sent some messages to debian-sparc but I don't see them.
23:55.36beepiep8m, dunno about that, but here it doesn't take more than 30 minutes
23:56.30gnuLordI need help installing virtualbox
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23:56.52p8mbeepie: thanks. I can see the mail was delivered from my exim logs but I don't see it. I guess I'll wait and see.
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23:57.45azmodeusoook... I am totally new in debian! How is it going guys? I want to try to emulate a server in a virtual lab... uhmmm.. but here it comes the first issue
23:58.18azmodeusI am nearly sure that I put my usual password as root.. and retyping it should be assure me that it is correct... so... I tried to log as root
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23:58.37acz32gnuLord: what is your problem?
23:58.46beepiep8m, you're testing an email server? that can be trickier than a mere test
23:58.54jushi, i just upgraded to jessie. spamassassin is running as root, i thought there was a debian-spamd user on older releases. is this a known issue?
23:59.08BrigognuLord, what's your problem?
23:59.13azmodeusthe password seems to be wrong... is there something that I don't know about how root logs on debian? I am trying with "others", typing root as user name and then the password
23:59.57p8mbeepie: nah the server has been working for a long time. I just checked the logs when the message didn't show in the list.

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