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| 00:20.27 | rookie2030 | hi all anyone know how I can configure debian into android phone |
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| 00:56.49 | lram | Hello. The release file, which contains the hash sums (MD5, SHA1 and SHA256) of packages. Which hash sums will actually be checked when packages are installed? |
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| 01:06.35 | ace_ | hi |
| 01:06.53 | beepie | ! |
| 01:06.55 | beepie | !hi |
| 01:07.04 | beepie | !hey |
| 01:07.04 | dpkg | Hello |
| 01:07.09 | beepie | !yo |
| 01:07.10 | dpkg | Wazzup man? |
| 01:07.15 | beepie | not much !you ? |
| 01:07.30 | beepie | hates dhclient's random port |
| 01:07.43 | beepie | !you ? ace ? |
| 01:07.43 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 01:07.55 | beepie | ^ |
| 01:08.48 | lram | The release file, which contains the hash sums (MD5, SHA1 and SHA256) of packages. Which hash sums will actually be checked when packages are installed? |
| 01:09.16 | beepie | lram, it's in Contents |
| 01:09.47 | lram | beepie: What do you mean? |
| 01:09.57 | beepie | lram, name of file Contents<> somewhere in repository |
| 01:10.01 | beepie | lram, hunt! |
| 01:10.04 | beepie | !ha ! |
| 01:10.04 | dpkg | i guess ha is High Availability, or <search> heartbeat, or 12.5% of an LOL |
| 01:10.10 | beepie | ^ LOL |
| 01:10.19 | beepie | dam i'm stuck on this issue |
| 01:10.26 | beepie | gives order to sudo |
| 01:10.36 | beepie | blergh! |
| 01:11.27 | lram | beepie: I'm sorry, I don't get it. I want to know if MD5, SHA1 or the SHA256-hashsum is checked when install packages from repositories. |
| 01:12.14 | beepie | lram, aye ? |
| 01:12.29 | beepie | !key |
| 01:12.29 | dpkg | Install the latest debian-archive-keyring package to get the latest GPG key used to sign the Debian archive. |
| 01:12.44 | beepie | lram, ^ |
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| 01:13.33 | lram | I don't want to sign Debian packages I want to know what hashes are checked because I think using MD5 is a security risk because of collisions. |
| 01:14.16 | beepie | lram, sometimes when you do an upgrade, i tend to do this first (apt-get install debian-keyring debian-archive-keyring) before install other packages |
| 01:14.45 | lram | beepie: Does apt check the Release.gpg? |
| 01:14.55 | beepie | lram, read the sourcecode |
| 01:15.07 | Garheade | lram: apt is using gpg to confirm the packages. |
| 01:15.47 | Garheade | s/packages/repos |
| 01:16.31 | lram | Garheade: Yes, there is a Release.gpg-file. I hope it will be checked. But checking the Release.gpg is not enough, you of course have to check if your downloaded packages correspond to the hashsums in the Release-file. |
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| 01:20.58 | ace_ | anybody can help me? I bootstraped debian arm in a sd card but this load the file system in read only |
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| 01:26.14 | lram | Wow it seems to be that Debian really is verifying packages using MD5. So aren't then upgrade-manipulations possible by man-in-the-middle attacks?: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_verification_of_installed_package_files |
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| 01:37.45 | bugaloo | hi all! I have a laptop running debian 8 with default gnome. How can I configure it to play audio only on the headphones when plugged. I used to control it mannually with alsamixer on ubuntu, mas gnome/debian is using pulseaudio and I couldn't find the individual channel volume controls. Any help? |
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| 01:44.24 | h4x0rss | hi all |
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| 02:29.16 | jKlaus | man oh man.. been using debian 8 for ~1hr now and I freaking love it |
| 02:29.31 | hyper-googler | http://paste.debian.net/220724/ <<===wget ssl error anyone have a clue how to fix |
| 02:29.31 | jKlaus | I owe someone a beer |
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| 02:29.47 | jKlaus | Any debian devs in Raleigh? |
| 02:30.41 | Akuw | to run a crontab is necesary to specify path to comand ? for example /bin/tar |
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| 02:36.03 | jKlaus | can anyone point me in the direction of an example tray application (not sure if that term is correct) |
| 02:36.24 | jKlaus | I'd like to build my own weather app that leverages the NOAA api |
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| 02:48.02 | head8debian | jKlaus: Hmm. |
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| 02:48.22 | head8debian | jKlaus: I don't know of any that are completely based on the tray. |
| 02:48.38 | head8debian | jKlaus: If you get anywhere with the code i would love to try it though. ;) |
| 02:48.39 | jKlaus | head8debian, to be honest I'm not sure if thats the best approach or not |
| 02:49.01 | jKlaus | I just know I want to do something with this key I have for the NOAA api lol |
| 02:49.11 | head8debian | Ok. ;) |
| 02:49.24 | jKlaus | I'm a .Net (WebAPI) / AngularJS dev |
| 02:49.40 | head8debian | Ah, cool. |
| 02:49.42 | jKlaus | need to create something for the opensource community since I take so much |
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| 02:49.56 | head8debian | Haha, i know how you feel. :) |
| 02:50.05 | jKlaus | granted, I've open sourced a lot of my apis / libraries |
| 02:50.28 | jKlaus | I am really liking cinnamon in Jessie though |
| 02:50.35 | jKlaus | I'd been using gnome for years |
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| 02:50.53 | jKlaus | decided I'd give something new a try when I installed my clean debian 8 instance |
| 02:50.54 | head8debian | :) |
| 02:51.15 | head8debian | I switched to i3 when i moved to jessie. |
| 02:51.32 | jKlaus | I'll probably still try more |
| 02:51.37 | jKlaus | but for now.. cinnamon is nice |
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| 03:07.01 | SrvK | I'm trying to install Debian stable onto my laptop and I'm getting Executing 'grub-install dummy' failed at the end. I haven't installed debian in UEFI mode before, so I'm not sure what I'm doing. Do I need a /boot partition or just a ESP partition? Secure boot is off in BIOS. |
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| 03:08.26 | SrvK | Also, is there any disadvantage to installing in legacy mode? |
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| 03:09.29 | Avenged3 | Does debian spy on what you do on your computer? |
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| 03:10.06 | ytre | no |
| 03:11.30 | SrvK | define spy |
| 03:13.15 | Avenged3 | steal your dat |
| 03:13.15 | Avenged3 | a |
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| 03:14.20 | SrvK | debian is an excellent operating system in that regard |
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| 03:37.46 | klys | ok I saw the following in tail /var/log/xcp-squeezed.log: [20150611T20:19:51.688Z|debug|new|0||xenstore-rpc] Caught exception Xenctrl.Error("13: Permission denied") |
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| 03:38.23 | relaxed | SrvK: maybe, https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall |
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| 04:32.53 | asterismo | hi people |
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| 04:36.18 | klys | asterismo, hi |
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| 04:38.38 | Nautilus | by what mechanism do programatically created files & dirs get their permissions and groups set? I'm using Drupal7 (php) but I'm not sure if it happens at that level... maybe it's more php related or apache related or ?? |
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| 04:40.49 | Nautilus | Is it just the uid/gid bits or is there more to it? |
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| 04:47.44 | klys | nautilus, umask |
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| 04:52.31 | Nautilus | klys: ahyea, thanks! |
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| 04:55.43 | asterismo | urgent question |
| 04:55.51 | asterismo | im installing a software raid |
| 04:55.59 | asterismo | it asks where to install grub |
| 04:56.21 | asterismo | which one of the two sda or sdb? |
| 04:56.46 | rainfyre | which one do you want to boot from? |
| 04:58.00 | asterismo | its a raid device, doesnt it supposed to boot from the raid disk? |
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| 04:58.12 | asterismo | rainfyre: why i have to select one? |
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| 04:58.38 | ryouma | isn't it the case that software raid is constructed by the kernel, and grub loads the kernel? |
| 04:59.02 | asterismo | xD |
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| 04:59.19 | asterismo | sda then |
| 04:59.32 | ryouma | i'll take that as a yes :) |
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| 05:00.20 | asterismo | ryouma: im sick of this trip |
| 05:00.30 | asterismo | i've been fighting with this fake raid |
| 05:00.33 | asterismo | i drove me nuts |
| 05:00.39 | asterismo | i'm reinstalling |
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| 05:00.49 | ryouma | i find raid is not worth it |
| 05:01.07 | asterismo | backed up the whole thing and now im gonna throw up everything on the fresh installed soft raid |
| 05:01.17 | asterismo | ryouma: woot? |
| 05:01.20 | asterismo | really? |
| 05:01.28 | ryouma | i think the fewer layers the better |
| 05:01.28 | asterismo | now you tell me! lol |
| 05:01.35 | ryouma | but that's just me |
| 05:03.30 | ryouma | booting intimidates me hugely. i am fighting the fact that i cannot upgrade to jessie because jessie no longer supports my video card. this is in direct contradiction to one of the reasons i chose debian -- stability and support for a lot of hardware. |
| 05:04.15 | ryouma | thinking of switching distros, but nothing out there really appeals to me either |
| 05:04.33 | asterismo | what distro then? |
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| 05:05.42 | silik0n | anyone noticed that on latest jessie there is some odd network behavior where pulling large file tansfers for some hosts is just dog slow |
| 05:05.47 | ryouma | i'd rather make debian work. dunno which yet. slack? guixsd? arch? gentoo? ubuntu? all have drawbacks (but "my computer does not work" is also a drawback). |
| 05:06.38 | silik0n | its no the network or anything between the hosts. this was confirmed by installint a different version of debian and centos7 on the same hardware, and by installing jessie (8.1) on another identical node |
| 05:06.54 | ryouma | i have not confirmed that jessie does not support my video card. this is not stated anywhere. in fact, i am left on my own to figure it out and i am completely lost. |
| 05:07.17 | silik0n | (in case you are wondering the hardware in all test cases is different bare metal nodes with the exact same config all the way down the disk subsystem) |
| 05:09.24 | asterismo | ryouma: maybe you can compile the driver or sh*t like that |
| 05:10.05 | ryouma | how does that help? (as if i had the skills.) |
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| 05:11.04 | silik0n | installing a driver from source isnt really that hard… most things have follow the boucing ball instructions |
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| 05:14.35 | asterismo | hey guys, im restoring a server,what files would conflict with the new software raid? |
| 05:14.46 | asterismo | it was a fake raid before and it was not working at all |
| 05:15.09 | asterismo | now im going to overwrite the system but not the /dev, /sys, /boot... |
| 05:15.17 | asterismo | i think also /etc/fstab |
| 05:15.41 | asterismo | is there other system file with partitions and stuff that i must not overwrite? |
| 05:17.40 | ryouma | silik0n: ok, supposing i find those instructions. how does recompiling help? |
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| 05:18.18 | silik0n | ryouma: sometimes its adding the driver int hat you need |
| 05:18.30 | silik0n | google is your friend for finding things like that |
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| 05:18.46 | ryouma | silik0n: i have the same driver that works in wheezy. i have googled to high heaven. there is nothign about this issue. |
| 05:18.59 | ryouma | old video card |
| 05:19.22 | ryouma | apparently it wants the proprietary driver, or it will not work :( |
| 05:19.39 | ryouma | yet the free driver works great on wheezy :/ |
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| 05:27.48 | nmschulte_ | According to this page, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hotkeys/Troubleshooting, I should file a bug report against udev for my media keys not being mapped. |
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| 05:40.58 | asterismo | well it WORKED!!!!!! |
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| 05:41.07 | asterismo | guess what |
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| 05:41.26 | asterismo | it fu*king worked |
| 05:42.03 | asterismo | overwrite every single file from the old server in the new software raid, except fstab and /boot |
| 05:42.07 | asterismo | and it worked like a charm |
| 05:42.17 | asterismo | i have every service up and running |
| 05:42.20 | asterismo | databases |
| 05:42.23 | asterismo | everything |
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| 05:57.17 | CryptoSiD | anyone running stretch? |
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| 05:58.37 | CryptoSiD | nvm, #debian-next :) |
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| 06:43.00 | DrakkenWarr | lulz oops |
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| 06:46.19 | DrakkenWarr | hola |
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| 06:48.50 | t0mb0 | Hey does anyone know if debian 6 is affected by the leap second this year? |
| 06:49.07 | DrakkenWarr | I do not believe so |
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| 06:50.34 | rdz | what is the "correct" way to configure /etc/hosts: should it contain a line like: 127.0.0.1 www.example.org, or can we rely on nameservers configured in /etc/resolv.conf to correctly resolve www.example.org? |
| 06:51.12 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:51.36 | DrakkenWarr | o7 dar |
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| 06:54.34 | beepie | t0mb0, not debian but I know you are. |
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| 06:55.25 | t0mb0 | beepie, yep the joys of managed services where nothing is patched ever. |
| 06:55.36 | t0mb0 | unless it's wintel |
| 06:55.45 | beepie | rdz, 127.0.0.1 should be localhost -- workstations is safe to use "127.0.1.1 <name>" for anything else than localhost |
| 06:55.58 | DrakkenWarr | ugh. that is no bueno t0mb0 |
| 06:56.41 | beepie | rdz, note 127/8 is for the localmachine and is part of the host's resolver but is not part of dns. |
| 06:56.41 | t0mb0 | well the task got delegated as "check that Nagios isn't affected by leap second" so here i am :D: |
| 06:56.54 | beepie | rdz, man nsswitch.conf |
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| 06:57.31 | DrakkenWarr | what ver of Nagios t0mb0? |
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| 06:59.09 | t0mb0 | Version 3.2.2 |
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| 07:00.21 | DrakkenWarr | I believe you should be fine. A bit of duckduckgo research should confirm that |
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| 07:01.23 | t0mb0 | Yeah I've been doing that this arvo, nothing comes up, nothing on nagios' site either. |
| 07:01.36 | t0mb0 | thus I was moving down a layer to ntp which I assume nagios depends. |
| 07:01.57 | DrakkenWarr | good call.. layer 3 |
| 07:01.59 | t0mb0 | Our legacy I'm just going to disable ntpd whilst it ticks over to middnight |
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| 07:02.56 | DrakkenWarr | again.. very good call Sir |
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| 07:03.58 | t0mb0 | that's why they pay me the big bucks |
| 07:04.22 | DrakkenWarr | lulz indeed Sir..indeed |
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| 07:07.00 | ws2k3 | how can i force quit a pid when kill -9 does not work? |
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| 07:07.34 | beepie | ws2k3, ms fan |
| 07:07.41 | beepie | ws2k3, sorry I don't help windows users |
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| 07:10.04 | ws2k3 | beepie lol i'm not a windows user... this issue is on a debian server.. |
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| 07:14.55 | wizzy__ | How would i get rid of the following error? W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 9D6D8F6BC857C906 Debian Security Archive Automatic Signing Key (8/jessie) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 07:16.53 | wizzy__ | I already checked that debian-keyring & debian-archive-keyring is installed, I've tried to fetch they key and add it, still the same error. Also i don't understand why wheezy/updates is signed with jessie key? |
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| 07:19.41 | themill | wizzy__: BADSIG indicates that the data you have download doesn't match the signature (nothing to do with not having the key which would be NOPUBKEY) |
| 07:19.53 | DrakkenWarr | GPG checksum |
| 07:20.00 | DrakkenWarr | well MD5 rather |
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| 07:22.21 | defa | hi folks. since the wheezy -> jessie update my apache (su_exec php-fcgid mpm-worker) crashes daily at 6:45 after a graceful restart attempt. did anyone of you heard of people with the same problem? search for it only reveals pre-jessie bug reports |
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| 07:24.46 | themill | wizzy__: the Release file is signed by both keys at the moment (and both signatures look fine to me at least on the security mirror I'm looking at). If you have a proxy between you and the mirror, it might be serving you stale content |
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| 07:28.43 | wizzy__ | No proxy used |
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| 07:29.02 | wizzy__ | by wiped /var/lib/apt/lists i got it working |
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| 07:29.42 | wizzy__ | imho apt should be resident to such error, when it can download the data with apt-get update |
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| 07:34.53 | themill | wizzy__: well... that's actually the most important error for apt to catch. |
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| 07:42.26 | n1cky | looking for help figuring out this systemd service: https://paste.debian.net/220924/ |
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| 07:42.56 | n1cky | the idea being, i want to have my irssi available via a single passwordless ssh key, and via authorized_keys i can set it to only be able to attach to dtach. |
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| 07:43.15 | n1cky | right now i use screen for that, and that means that anyone can 'C-a c' and get a new shell if they had that key |
| 07:43.53 | n1cky | the ExecStart command works fine at a bash prompt, but when launching via systemd it fails and i'm struggling to figure out why |
| 07:44.01 | n1cky | is there a good way to be able to do an strace on a systemd service? |
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| 07:44.44 | n1cky | anything obviously wrong with that service? |
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| 07:52.01 | Knaldgas | Hmm, can't find systemd-socket-proxyd on my wheezy installation (Beaglebone Black). Is that a newer feature? |
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| 08:23.31 | jelly | Knaldgas: wheezy doesn't come with systemd by default, and the version in it is horribly old anyway |
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| 08:24.50 | Knaldgas | jelly: It's the BeagleBone Black latest release which is using systemd, but as you say, probably a not-so-up-to-date version. I just used socat for my problem. Thanks :) |
| 08:27.50 | dr_hitchcock | Howdy Debians, can anyone steer me in the direction of a simple tutorial for installing a live debian USB flash drive? Thanks! |
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| 08:36.50 | hoarse | Hey all, how big of an issue is the whole leap second thing according to you? Just trying to grasp the impact |
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| 08:38.10 | yei | hello ! |
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| 08:39.47 | invlpg[1] | hi, im installing debian and i want to add swap partition but unfortunately there's no such option..what am i missing? |
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| 08:41.06 | linuxthefish | does debian live ISO's come with 32 bit efi? |
| 08:41.14 | linuxthefish | like the 32bit install DVD's do |
| 08:41.23 | invlpg[1] | oh found it! |
| 08:41.42 | invlpg[1] | btw - when i create a partition on /, does it include /boot or /boot has to be a seperate partition? |
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| 08:42.14 | talin_ | hello. apt-get update gives me: W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-log-implementation |
| 08:42.30 | talin_ | can't quite figure out how to get rid of that. the package doesn't exist |
| 08:42.36 | Knaldgas | dr_hitchcock: Are you running Windows? |
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| 08:48.04 | micalm | hoarse: keep your tzdata updated, ntp running, and you should be perfectly fine |
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| 08:48.18 | jelly | hoarse: unless you're dealing with real-time and timestamp sensitive apps (voip, video streaming, certain databases) it's probably not a big deal |
| 08:48.29 | micalm | hoarse: unless you are running some leap-second sensitive things, but you wouldn't ask this question if you did ;P |
| 08:48.55 | jelly | presumably people have fixed their java JVMs since the 2010 bug |
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| 08:51.23 | Shadur | Argh. Wheezy box, trying to swap rsyslogd for syslog-ng, but systemd refuses to shut down rsyslogd during the install. |
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| 08:52.22 | jelly | Shadur: how come you put systemd on a wheezy install? |
| 08:52.23 | hoarse | jelly, micalm , so the cpu spike that happened last time shouldn't be of worry anymore? |
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| 08:52.45 | jelly | hoarse: right, if your OS is up-to-date |
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| 08:55.23 | hoarse | ok thanks, jelly |
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| 08:56.22 | Shadur | jelly: Was planning to upgrade this system to Jessie, but then someone broke pacemaker. Regardless, this is the first time in more than six months on over a dozen systems that I've had any reason to complain about systemd |
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| 08:58.22 | micalm | hoarse: ubuntu fixed it for sure, so probably debian did too ;) |
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| 09:00.54 | Shadur | Easiest fix would be to make dpkg force the uninstall and don't care about the pre-rm errors but I'm not seeing anything in the dpkg manual that covers that. |
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| 09:18.19 | JohnnyL | can anyone recommend a decept ps like joystick for mame/linux or whereabouts I should ask? |
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| 09:20.23 | invlpg[1] | is this a correct way to partition the disc? http://postimg.org/image/kn4v8zrs5/ |
| 09:20.27 | invlpg[1] | ssd should be bootable and primary |
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| 09:23.17 | rdz | invlpg[1], once your system is swapping off memory, it's gonna be slow. why not use SSD for swap? |
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| 09:24.03 | invlpg[1] | rdz, recommendations are to put swap on hdd |
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| 09:25.02 | rdz | aha |
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| 09:26.08 | invlpg[1] | rdz, i mean, some recommend differently but i think im good with it |
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| 09:26.50 | abrotman | wouldn't put swap on SSD if the swap is going to be actively used |
| 09:27.55 | rdz | abrotman, because it would wear the SSD quickly, then? |
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| 09:38.26 | woshty | why does my apt/aptitude hangs at waiting for headers? that happens only one system, other work fine .. |
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| 09:40.51 | invlpg[1] | in debian installation, i select efi system partition and then ext4 on / on the ssd..is this fine? |
| 09:40.53 | Stummi | woshty, maybe your apt on this systems has choosen an mirror which needs some time to reply? |
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| 09:42.16 | ada` | Hi all. Quick question regarding grub-efi-ia32 (grub2.02 jessie), could it boot a usb dvd? |
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| 09:43.15 | ada` | if yes then what would be the menuentry "set root=" for it? (/dev/sr0 in fstab) |
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| 09:45.09 | talin_ | hello. apt-get update gives me: W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package php-psr-log-implementation |
| 09:45.15 | talin_ | can't quite figure out how to get rid of that. the package doesn't exist |
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| 10:34.58 | jelly | talin_: what does "apt-cache policy php-psr-log-implementation" and "apt-cache policy" say? It's likely there's an issue with a third-party repo you have configured |
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| 10:42.59 | tr00per | hello, i have debian 8 xfce and when i'm tryng to connect to AP protected by wpa/wpa2 networkmanager does nothing |
| 10:43.16 | tr00per | it doesn't even ask for password |
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| 10:43.41 | tr00per | but everything works fine when i'm connecting to unprotecte AP |
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| 10:44.19 | tr00per | thinks everybody is interested in helping |
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| 10:46.14 | tr00per | nah |
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| 10:59.12 | invlpg[1] | new problem - it is stuck on fsck after selecting the os in grub! |
| 10:59.16 | invlpg[1] | what to do? :( |
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| 11:05.38 | talin_ | jelly: the first one says installed:none, candidate:none, version table: |
| 11:05.55 | talin_ | jelly: the second is a long list of stuff. i can paste somewhere |
| 11:06.33 | talin_ | jelly: https://dpaste.de/MRCV |
| 11:06.44 | invlpg[1] | please anyone - boot is stuck after fsck.. |
| 11:06.58 | invlpg[1] | after finished installing debian it is stuck there and im not sure how to fix this :( |
| 11:07.20 | tethra | stuck how? is the fsck proceeding? |
| 11:07.25 | tethra | could just be it'll take a long time |
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| 11:13.58 | em|biketron | talin_: may this is due to lacy init of ext4 how big is the MemoryDrive? |
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| 11:15.17 | em|biketron | invlpg[1]: Sorry the above msg is for you |
| 11:15.32 | invlpg[1] | this is it: http://postimg.org/image/9i9is0let/ |
| 11:15.36 | invlpg[1] | stuck there :( |
| 11:15.49 | invlpg[1] | biketron, 240gb |
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| 11:19.24 | em|biketron | invlpg[1]: Could take a lot of time to initialize the harddisk with ext4. The thing is, when you create an ext4 Filesystem it is only be initialized in an quick way and the lazy init is done during runtime when the sectors are accessed. |
| 11:20.20 | em|biketron | invlpg[1]: So currently your fsck checks the disk and the intialization is done right now. You should expect the time it would take to format the whole disk. |
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| 11:21.43 | em|biketron | invlpg[1]: So my suggestion would be to ceep cool and get some coffee .... maybe an second |
| 11:23.13 | talin_ | jelly: after reboot, i got a bit further |
| 11:23.22 | talin_ | jelly: so i'll come back and nag more if it doesn't resolve itself |
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| 11:25.51 | em|biketron | invlpg[1]: alternativly you could try if Ctrl+C works ;) |
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| 11:45.57 | talin_ | if i have debian stretch/sid, is it safe to upgrade to debian 8? |
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| 11:46.07 | talin_ | just change sources.list to jessie instead of wheezy? |
| 11:46.15 | talin_ | and update/upgrade/dist-upgrade? |
| 11:46.43 | invlpg[1] | hi, i have gefore gtx 750 card and i want the latest driver for that..official repo has something that is quite old for me |
| 11:46.55 | invlpg[1] | some great guy told me that siducations is the right repo or something like that |
| 11:47.02 | rozie | talin_: in general yes, but there are release note which you should read |
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| 11:50.48 | John | hey all |
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| 11:51.04 | John | I have a networking problem - not sure if this is the right place to ask but here goes... |
| 11:51.09 | withnale_ | How do you install the latest version of the kernel sources in debian? |
| 11:51.23 | John | I have a Mac plugged in to my work's network on a cable. All fairly standard. |
| 11:51.24 | talin_ | rozie: alright. thank you |
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| 11:51.47 | John | I just bought a new workstation with two ethernet adaptors, and is running Jessie |
| 11:52.30 | Brigo | withnale_, 4.0? |
| 11:52.34 | John | i want to use the Mac's ethernet cable to the Debian computer in eth0, then using a patch or crossover cable (i dont know which..) connect the Debain to the Mac on eth1 |
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| 11:53.05 | John | I got all the bits - I just need to know which kind of cable to use, and how to route packets not destined for Debian to the Mac |
| 11:53.12 | John | (and back) |
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| 11:54.49 | Brigo | jholden, do you want to connect the mac with itself through the debian server? |
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| 11:55.17 | ChrisH | systemctl status fails with Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1? How to get that back running without rebooting? |
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| 11:55.53 | John | Brigo: no, um, just like put the Debian PC in between the Mac and the rest of the network |
| 11:56.02 | hyper-googler | ok one to many problems with my debian install. I have a seperate home directory how do i reinstall stretch and not over write the home directory?? |
| 11:56.04 | Brigo | withnale__, https://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/sect.kernel-compilation.html |
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| 11:56.19 | StanleyGoodman | question: (I have a debian base system in a schroot with iceweasel installed). If I make the whole system read only, will I have any issues using the system or iceweasel? |
| 11:56.27 | John | Because Im only given one cable but i have two computers now -_- |
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| 11:57.11 | John | Like a man-in-the-middle attack, accept I just want to get internet -_- |
| 11:57.15 | Brigo | John, let me see. You have a debian server with 2 ethernets and a mac, right? |
| 11:57.16 | darxmurf | how can I export partition scheme with labels ? |
| 11:57.20 | hyper-googler | I am asking cause I can't afford to screw this up...not enough space to back it up |
| 11:57.26 | John | Brigo: exactly :) |
| 11:57.39 | John | And one cable to the network |
| 11:57.42 | darxmurf | sfdisk -d does not print it |
| 11:57.46 | Brigo | StanleyGoodman, yes, iceweasel need to write in its cache directory |
| 11:58.20 | Brigo | John, the you need 2 ethernet cables, one from the router to the debian server and another from the debian server to the mac. |
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| 11:58.37 | John | yeah :) |
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| 11:59.05 | jelly | talin_: stretch is already newer than jessie, you done goofed up |
| 11:59.06 | John | But i also need to tell Debian to give packets on eth0 (network) to eth1 (to mac) right? |
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| 11:59.23 | talin_ | jelly: really? hmm, okay |
| 11:59.27 | John | I mean... im just guessing |
| 11:59.36 | talin_ | jelly: well, i haven't really done anything yet |
| 11:59.37 | Brigo | John, you need just masquerading. |
| 11:59.42 | John | Ah, ok |
| 11:59.46 | John | How do i do that? |
| 11:59.58 | John | (right now i have a totally fresh Debian install) |
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| 12:00.21 | Brigo | John, http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/summary.html |
| 12:00.28 | John | Thank you Birdgo :) |
| 12:00.32 | John | Brigo |
| 12:00.36 | StanleyGoodman | so... if I give it write access into the cache directly, and then use a script to wipe that directory on close, then I should be alright? Will the schroot itself have issues with being read only? root would still have write access, of course |
| 12:00.42 | talin_ | jelly: strangely though, sources.list says wheezy, but /etc/issue says stretch/sid...? |
| 12:00.44 | jelly | talin_: if you haven't installed anything from there, remove testing and sid deb lines. Then proceed with wheezy->jessie after reading the release notes. |
| 12:01.06 | jelly | talin_: that means you've actually installed packages from stretch already, and your installation is a mess |
| 12:01.25 | talin_ | jelly: i suspect that someone has done this in order to get docker working. do you really need stretch for that? |
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| 12:03.12 | Brigo | John, you will have a problem. The configuration will be deleted on boot. You need to add persistence |
| 12:03.19 | John | Ahok |
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| 12:03.39 | freite | seems my icecast2 server lost the ability to work with SSL certs...and looking at the dpkg.log it says "upgrade icecast2:amd64 2.4.0-1.1 2.4.0-1.1+deb8u1", not sure what to make of it |
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| 12:04.09 | John | Actually, although this sounds totally awesome for a home network (where, like, a linux box plugs straight into the internet, and then everything in the home network just gets an internal IP), i actually want the Mac to be part of the network |
| 12:04.22 | John | like, get an IP from the DHCP just like the Debian box will |
| 12:04.44 | John | As if it was plugged straight into the Mac without going through the Debian box |
| 12:04.54 | jelly | talin_: no idea about docker anyway, but if that OS is a mix of wheezy and stretch now, the best thing to do is reinstall... |
| 12:05.17 | John | "wretch" |
| 12:05.31 | ada` | Hi all. Quick question regarding grub-efi-ia32 (grub2.02 jessie), could it boot a usb dvd? if yes then what would be the menuentry "set root=" for it? (/dev/sr0 in fstab) |
| 12:05.33 | rozie | John: you probably want to make a bridge (br0) from eth0 and eth1 |
| 12:06.20 | Brigo | you will need: apt-get install iptables-persisten |
| 12:06.32 | Brigo | it is a script to save/restore iptables rules. |
| 12:07.00 | Brigo | John, you will need to configure the connection between the mac and the debian too. |
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| 12:07.22 | John | Gah, this sounds like a lot of work -_- |
| 12:07.29 | John | But ok, I really aprechiate all your help :) |
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| 12:08.08 | Brigo | John, i think you will just need to install dnsmasq and configure it to listen tin the mac pluggend interface. |
| 12:09.57 | Brigo | John, sorry, i must go. |
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| 12:13.09 | rozie | John: will mac work only when debian is on? |
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| 12:14.22 | rozie | if so, then indeed dnsmasq + configured listen interface, masquerade (1 iptabels rule) and enabled forwarding is enough |
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| 12:14.47 | Haris | hello all |
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| 12:15.16 | rozie | mac will be double-NATed, and won't have direct, bidirectional access to he rest of the netowrk |
| 12:15.16 | StanleyGoodman | hello |
| 12:15.21 | Haris | I just installed debian latest in a VM. first it won't let me login as root. now its refusing my ssh key .. lol .. wth is going on with debian latest ? |
| 12:16.01 | Haris | vim from netinstall iso is killing me. one can't press 'i' to go into insert mode. its already in sort of between command/insert mode ? |
| 12:16.09 | rozie | Haris: in sshd root is allowed now to install without-password only |
| 12:16.23 | rozie | previously it was: yes |
| 12:16.38 | Haris | why is it refusing my key ? |
| 12:16.42 | Haris | lol |
| 12:17.05 | rozie | got no idea. you probably didn't add key as root |
| 12:17.18 | rozie | Haris: which virutualisation? got console access? |
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| 12:17.25 | Haris | yes |
| 12:17.28 | Haris | esxi 5.0 host |
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| 12:17.47 | rozie | try logging as root from console. password will work |
| 12:17.53 | Haris | hmm |
| 12:18.12 | Haris | yep. it worked |
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| 12:19.20 | jelly | Haris: ssh service logs to /var/log/auth.log so you can look for clues there. Also verify permissions on /root, /root/.ssh and /root/.ssh/authorized_keys |
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| 12:19.28 | Haris | I logged in as the user it created during install, su - root, created ~/.ssh in root's home folder. created ~/.ssh/authorized_keys, put my key in it. saved. tried to login via key as root, but it doesn't work |
| 12:20.10 | jelly | Haris: ls -ld /root/.ssh /root/.ssh/authorized_keys ? |
| 12:20.39 | Haris | ~/.ssh is 0700 |
| 12:20.40 | apt | okay, Haris |
| 12:20.52 | Haris | ~/.ssh/authorized_keys is 0600 |
| 12:20.52 | apt | okay, Haris |
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| 12:20.56 | jelly | apt: forget /.ssh |
| 12:20.56 | apt | jelly: i forgot /.ssh |
| 12:21.05 | jelly | apt: forget /.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 12:21.05 | apt | jelly: i forgot /.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 12:21.11 | talin_ | jelly: is there a way to dpkg -l and see what versions things are from? |
| 12:21.31 | Haris | login works with these modes on centos. why not on debian ? |
| 12:21.37 | Haris | server refused my key :P |
| 12:21.37 | rozie | talin_: wajig policy <package> |
| 12:21.45 | Haris | checking auth log |
| 12:21.50 | jelly | talin_: hmm. /msg dpkg which repo |
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| 12:22.08 | jelly | Haris: what about /root directory? |
| 12:22.24 | jelly | Haris: those permissions so far are sane. |
| 12:22.43 | HSorgYves | i have trouble with dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie... unmet dependencies for lsof apache2.2-common libjpeg62-turbo gcc-4.9-base |
| 12:22.50 | HSorgYves | anyone an idea? |
| 12:22.58 | Haris | its "out of the box", "as it is". nothing touched other than /root/.ssh and /root/.ssh/authorized_keys after fresh install |
| 12:23.39 | Haris | it doesn't say much about refusing my key in auth.log |
| 12:23.47 | jelly | HSorgYves: did you check for held packages before doing dist-upgrade? |
| 12:23.56 | jelly | Haris: what does it say? |
| 12:23.58 | Haris | -> /root is 0700 |
| 12:24.04 | Haris | I mean it says nothing, lol |
| 12:24.23 | jelly | Haris: nothing at all, not even a connection attempt? |
| 12:24.23 | Haris | its noted my login failures via password, but nothing about key based auth failure |
| 12:24.37 | rozie | ssh -vvv ;) |
| 12:25.05 | HSorgYves | Jelly: dpkg --get-selections | grep hold return nothing |
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| 12:26.26 | jelly | HSorgYves: pastebin the complete output of your command, or as much as you can, and also output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy lsof apache2.2-common libjpeg62-turbo gcc-4.9-base" |
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| 12:28.47 | talin_ | jelly: so /etc/debian_version says stretch/sid and /etc/apt/sources.list has wheezy on each line. that means things are broken and can not be fixed, right? |
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| 12:30.46 | HSorgYves | Jelly: http://pastebin.com/Vzcz2KF5 |
| 12:30.56 | quarterback | Hello, ssmtp is not working properly. |
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| 12:33.53 | jelly | talin_: this means you've at least installed base-files from stretch or sid, and probably more |
| 12:34.03 | woshty | I upgraded an older notebook to jessie and somehow bold fonts look overly bold and washed out in lxterm/lxde. Any ideas? |
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| 12:34.14 | jelly | talin_: so yeah, broken is the right description |
| 12:34.32 | proderlinor | How can i better resulution on a dvi sceeen? I am using two screens with hdmiand dvi |
| 12:34.36 | proderlinor | hdmi and* |
| 12:35.03 | ChrisH | systemctl status fails with Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1? How to get that back running without rebooting? |
| 12:35.24 | jelly | HSorgYves: why are you using aptitude? |
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| 12:35.37 | jelly | dpkg, tell HSorgYves about wheezy->jessie |
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| 12:37.02 | HSorgYves | Jelly: didn't know this would matter, read the whole document but didn't know that i could not use aptitude |
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| 12:38.13 | jelly | HSorgYves: I hope this is a test system and not production. apache 2.4 config will need fixing, dovecot 2.2 probably too, and that's just what I noticed |
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| 12:39.13 | HSorgYves | Jelly: i know, the configuration changes have been prepared |
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| 12:44.51 | erdea | How do i seperate dual screen? |
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| 12:51.49 | john | hey rozie :) Im online now on the Debian PC |
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| 12:52.35 | john | From the XFCE network settings you can actually already do a lot - I could spoof my mac and set all the IP deets to make the Debian PC look like the mac |
| 12:53.13 | john | Then set up a bridge on eth0 and eth1 (although, actually, it didn't help, because then two PCs are on the network with the same MAC address) |
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| 12:53.40 | Yolarina | Hi. I added a service file in /etc/systemd/user/stuff.service and ran `systemctl daemon-reload`, yet running `systemctl status stuff` says the service was not found (Reason: No such file or directory). |
| 12:53.45 | Yolarina | What did I do wrong? |
| 12:53.50 | john | I went to the IT department, and because its a friday evening no one can be bothered to help hook me up with a new IP address :P |
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| 12:54.20 | john | Anywho, now i just need to activate Masquerading as you and Brigo said - so i'll will try that now |
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| 12:54.31 | john | Thank you both!!! :) |
| 12:54.43 | anddam | hello, is it possible to replace a packaged library with a newer version installed from source? |
| 12:55.22 | anddam | or better, what's the drawback? difficulties in uninstalling and possible clashing of files with dpkg? |
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| 12:57.35 | Haris | it has nothing for key based auth in auth.log |
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| 12:59.41 | StanleyGoodman | anyone know an active IRC channel for political discussion? |
| 12:59.49 | erdea | How do i configure dual display with openbox? |
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| 13:02.01 | juniorsa | did I do something wrong during the install - is there a proper way to install my system? http://pastebin.com/dSGbQGNi -- maybe I can fix it but I would prefer finding a proper procedure and knowing what I did wrong - if anyone knows it would be great debian 8 2 3TB drives - raid 1 - I did gpt partitions, bios boot parition and then created a swap and then my / - no errors?? |
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| 13:04.42 | iuzfe | Please how to choose a specyfic folder (not a disk) to do a recovery on photorec |
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| 13:05.54 | ChrisH | juniorsa: looks like you are installing Ubuntu. |
| 13:06.20 | juniorsa | I've tried debian 8 and ubuntu 14.04lts same problem won't boot :( |
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| 13:08.26 | Haris | nope nothing for key based auth in auth.log |
| 13:08.36 | Haris | everything for password based auth |
| 13:08.48 | darxmurf | still nobody to export the partition schema AND labels in the same time ? |
| 13:08.49 | Haris | perhaps key based auth is not enabled by default in debian 8.1 ? |
| 13:08.52 | woshty | 4k yeah |
| 13:08.53 | gihad | Hey, I installed debian stretch on a co-workers machine and all his browsers can't handle TLS bellow version 1.1 |
| 13:09.02 | Haris | its a stupid thing I'm saying. but perhaps |
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| 13:10.14 | rozie | Haris: grep -i "permitroot" /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 13:11.05 | gihad | What package in debian could possibly break a browser from being able to handle TLS 1.0? |
| 13:11.27 | iuzfe | You do not want to help me? |
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| 13:24.23 | ChrisH | juniorsa: _I_ would partition as follows: * BIOS Partition * Partition for /boot mirror * Partition for OS-VG * Partition for Data VG run md over these partitions and LVM over th VGs. create Filesystems inside LVM |
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| 13:28.05 | frostschutz | juniorsa, I'm old fashioned, so I keep a traditional /boot partition, raid1, 1.0 or 0.90 metadata, rather than rely on the bootloaders support for RAID. Although your setup should work - with GRUB2 set up to handle raid |
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| 13:29.09 | RichN | morening |
| 13:29.15 | RichN | morning even |
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| 13:30.47 | iuzfe | No one wants to help me ? |
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| 13:33.20 | RichN | if they can they will have patiens |
| 13:33.32 | RichN | gawd people stop stressing out |
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| 13:34.05 | themill | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.05 | dpkg | well, $ is a dollar sign, or not an S. |
| 13:34.09 | RichN | you know its a opensource os and people help when and where they can |
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| 13:34.45 | RichN | I hate to say this but people have become to demanding nowdays like its owed to them and ts not |
| 13:34.58 | themill | iuzfe: that's not how photorec works. You can't |
| 13:35.00 | RichN | this is why opensource is starting to fail |
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| 13:35.42 | ChrisH | iuzfe: is not intented to run NTFS and FAT Filesystems. So be more precise what you want/need. |
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| 13:42.34 | ws2k3 | is it possible to kill a proces in D state? |
| 13:42.48 | ChrisH | ws2k3: short: no |
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| 13:44.23 | ws2k3 | ChrisH and long?, cause i realy need that proces down and i cant affort a reboot of this machine |
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| 13:45.49 | ChrisH | ws2k3: long - a process in D state is waiting for somehting inside the kernel to happen. eg. some IO from Disk, or IO via Network. The kill signals you send do not read the process. |
| 13:46.23 | ChrisH | ws2k3: find out what the process is waiting for / is blocked from and resolve that. reboot might be the fastest way. |
| 13:46.34 | Haris | my! bad. used the wrong key for key based auth on the first attempt. fixed it. its working flawlessly now |
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| 13:47.42 | KaaK | I've got a python program that logs to syslog using `/dev/log' with syslog-ng listening on the otherside, and most importantly configured (syslog-ng) to forward specific logs to a remote host |
| 13:48.21 | KaaK | When I run in the foreground, all my logs show up fine. When I place that python program in systemd service, all of my logs stop appearing to syslog-ng, and by proxy my remote host. |
| 13:48.36 | KaaK | Is systemd redirecting my logs somehow? I see them when I run systemctl status my_program ... |
| 13:48.44 | KaaK | I'm at the end of an 18 hour marathon, and this is killing me ... |
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| 13:48.59 | KaaK | Link to my service file: http://paste.debian.net/221102/ |
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| 13:50.17 | jelly | !win Haris |
| 13:50.17 | dpkg | Congratulations, Haris! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 13:50.28 | KaaK | Output of `systemctl status my_program': http://paste.debian.net/221106/ |
| 13:51.11 | Haris | having said that, there was no trace of failed key based auth attempt in auth.log, in its "out of the box" install state |
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| 14:05.45 | ws2k3 | ChrisH how can i find out what my proces is blocked on/waiting for |
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| 14:11.58 | ChrisH | ws2k3: that is difficult. lsof might give an indication. Or pstack Depends on the process |
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| 14:13.17 | talin_ | if i have a debian that has the testing and unstable repos in sources.list, can i name them something else such that it becomes stable at some point? |
| 14:13.28 | talin_ | i guess i shuold call them sid or something? |
| 14:13.39 | talin_ | also, is it normal to have both testing and unstable? |
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| 14:16.57 | juniorsa | Hi - I just installed debian 8 - 2 x 3TB drives - GPT partition table, biosboot partition, swap partition (raid1), / partition (ext4 - raid1) installed grub on /dev/sda /dev/sdb - no errors - reboot and I get grub rescue error: disk `mduuid/xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx` not found - any help would be greatly appreciated |
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| 14:17.20 | monitormon | hi |
| 14:17.35 | monitormon | is there a debian rollign release? |
| 14:17.39 | monitormon | rolling* |
| 14:17.58 | HSorgYves | does roundcube exist as package for jessie? |
| 14:18.26 | jelly | ,v roundcube |
| 14:18.27 | judd | Package: roundcube on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.3.1-6; squeeze-backports: 0.7.2-9~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 0.7.2-9+deb7u1; wheezy: 0.7.2-9+deb7u1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 0.9.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 0.9.5-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.1.1+dfsg.1-2; stretch: 1.1.1+dfsg.1-2 |
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| 14:18.31 | minot2 | what is the easiest way to get wheezy to jessie? |
| 14:18.38 | jelly | HSorgYves: nope |
| 14:18.54 | jelly | monitormon: nope, either |
| 14:18.55 | nggrb | hi |
| 14:18.59 | HSorgYves | jelly: ok, but it is still installed after the wheezy->jessie dist-upgrade, does that matter? |
| 14:19.21 | monitormon | jelly: so you have to do a full system upgrade once or twice a year? |
| 14:19.30 | ChrisH | dpkg tell minot2 about wheezy->jessie |
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| 14:19.44 | nggrb | a hint for use nvidia-96xx-legacy driver with jessie? |
| 14:19.45 | monitormon | can I use ubuntu ppa repos with debian btw or do most devs offer native debian repos? |
| 14:19.45 | jelly | monitormon: new releases are about once in two years |
| 14:19.50 | monitormon | ah |
| 14:20.05 | monitormon | i want bleeding edge software, i'm coming from arch |
| 14:20.09 | jelly | nggrb: probably "don't upgrade to jessie" |
| 14:20.32 | nggrb | it's done. :( |
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| 14:20.40 | jelly | monitormon: I want a pony, but Debian will not provide that, either |
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| 14:20.57 | monitormon | so not a release for me... |
| 14:21.09 | HSorgYves | jelly: ok, but roundcube is still installed after the wheezy->jessie dist-upgrade, does that matter? should i deinstall it? |
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| 14:21.19 | Haris | does debian keep record of how/when packages are installed, uninstalled ? like yum does ? in /var/log/yum.log ? |
| 14:21.20 | jelly | monitormon: you could use the testing or unstable branch, but they're not "releases" |
| 14:21.41 | monitormon | yeah that sounds good |
| 14:21.49 | monitormon | and they have bleeding edge in repos? |
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| 14:21.55 | teclo- | Haris: yes, it does |
| 14:21.57 | monitormon | can i use ubuntu ppa if i need to? |
| 14:22.04 | jelly | HSorgYves: if you don't need it, definitely. There might be other packages that are not avialable any more, /msg dpkg obsolete |
| 14:22.17 | teclo- | Haris: probably in /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 14:22.22 | jelly | monitormon: no, ubuntu PPA only offer binary builds for ubuntu releases |
| 14:22.22 | Haris | ah great |
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| 14:22.50 | HSorgYves | thx Jelly |
| 14:22.54 | monitormon | ok jelly thank you |
| 14:23.08 | monitormon | there are special repos for debian unstable then? |
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| 14:23.40 | jelly | Haris: apt and aptitude and dpkg all have logs under /var/log/ |
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| 14:24.25 | jelly | monitormon: there's the distribution repository; not really special |
| 14:25.18 | monitormon | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:25.51 | ws2k3 | ChrisH its a qemu proces lsof only shows me only alot of libary's |
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| 14:26.08 | loadsdow` | does anyone know what is up with forums.debian.net? |
| 14:27.43 | ChrisH | ws2k3: strace is expected to show nothing. Otherwise a shellscript with looping kills might work |
| 14:27.56 | minot2 | ChrisH, thanks I changed my sources from wheezy to stable after googling dpkg wheezy jessie |
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| 14:28.19 | ChrisH | minot2: putting stable is not the recommended way |
| 14:28.42 | jelly | monitormon: sid = unstable |
| 14:28.52 | jelly | dpkg, tell monitormon about sid faq |
| 14:29.45 | ashka | hi, there seems to be a package issue on wheezy. Where should I report it ? (nagios-plugins packs executables that won't run with the available libc version) |
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| 14:30.21 | loadsdow` | does anyone know what is up with forums.debian.net? and why am I getting "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" for like 100 packages including openssl, on a totally clean install of debian jessie "stable"? |
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| 14:31.20 | Brigo | ashka, debian bug tracking system. |
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| 14:31.44 | jelly | dpkg, tell ashka about reportbug |
| 14:32.00 | ashka | thanks |
| 14:32.24 | loadsdow` | does anyone know what is up with forums.debian.net? |
| 14:32.34 | jelly | ashka: note that wheezy is previous release, so the first thing you may get asked is to try whether the issue is fixed in debian 8 |
| 14:32.54 | ashka | jelly: it is fixed, is it still relevant to report ? |
| 14:34.06 | HSorgYves | Jelly, I guess I can use aptitude purge ~o as well can't I? Is there a way to omit 1 package from the purge/removal? |
| 14:34.07 | jelly | ashka: well, you can report it and it will be noted. It's probably not likely to be fixed unless the whole package is unusable... |
| 14:34.28 | ashka | it's a collection of scripts, so some of them are unusable |
| 14:34.32 | ashka | but I'll report it |
| 14:34.43 | jelly | HSorgYves: something like !~npackagename ? |
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| 14:35.38 | HSorgYves | Jelly, for example: aptitude purge ~o !~njailkit ? |
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| 14:37.14 | Haris | how to set timezone ? |
| 14:37.38 | Haris | on centos /etc/localtime is a symlink. its target can be changed. how on debian |
| 14:37.42 | Haris | its not a symlink |
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| 14:38.13 | Haris | ignore that stupid Q |
| 14:38.15 | jelly | HSorgYves: you'll probably need to quote or escape that exclamation mark... aptitude show '~o !~njailkit' for a start |
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| 14:38.42 | loadsdow` | what is wrong with ftp.debian.org? |
| 14:39.24 | GPenguin | Haris: i copy cp -p /usr/share/zoneinfo/<my timezone> to /etc/localtime or maybe to symlink is better |
| 14:39.30 | jelly | loadsdow`: you should probably use http://httpredir.debian.org/debian instead of http://ftp.debian.org/debian in your sources.list |
| 14:39.57 | jelly | Haris: perhaps read /msg dpkg tz |
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| 14:40.39 | ws2k3 | ChrisH the first tiem i ran strace i was able to attach it but now i get attach: ptrace(PTRACE_ATTACH, ...): Operation not permitted |
| 14:41.24 | jelly | ws2k3: either you're not root, or old strace is still running |
| 14:42.11 | GPenguin | can you list the newest factoids with dpkg-bot? |
| 14:42.41 | ws2k3 | jelly how should i check for old straces? |
| 14:42.59 | ChrisH | ws2k3: ot you are inside any kind of container/virtualization |
| 14:43.01 | jelly | ws2k3: uh... look at running processes? |
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| 14:43.59 | loadsdow` | @jelly why am I getting "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" when I try to install chromium browser? |
| 14:44.11 | monitormon | sorry another question, does debian install with gpt on uefi board automatically? |
| 14:44.12 | ws2k3 | ah now i says proces 9282 attached |
| 14:44.20 | ws2k3 | is there anything i can do with this? |
| 14:45.36 | Haris | its been a while since I played with exim |
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| 14:46.21 | nggrb | bye. |
| 14:46.27 | GPenguin | monitormon: i am not sure about the semi automated graphical installer but the expert install allows you to choose UEFI or classic |
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| 14:47.01 | GPenguin | (when you select the boot loader) |
| 14:47.14 | Brigo | monitormon, yes it does |
| 14:47.32 | monitormon | is the dialog based installer the "expert"? |
| 14:47.40 | GPenguin | monitormon: yes |
| 14:47.43 | monitormon | ah |
| 14:47.44 | monitormon | cool |
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| 14:49.35 | monitormon | if on windows, do i have to worry about the usb drive installation medium process regarding uefi? |
| 14:49.43 | monitormon | i would use something like unetbootin |
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| 14:50.03 | ChrisH | ws2k3: pstack $PID |
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| 14:50.42 | ws2k3 | ChrisH pstack is not installed let me try to install it |
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| 14:51.44 | Brigo | monitormon, you cannot use unetbootin with debian, it is not compatible. |
| 14:51.53 | monitormon | what should I use then? |
| 14:52.05 | jelly | loadsdow`: dunno, pastebin the complete output of your install command and the command itself; also output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy chromium debian-archive-keyring" |
| 14:52.06 | ws2k3 | ChrisH when i run pstack pid nothing happens |
| 14:52.20 | monitormon | Brigo: ^ |
| 14:52.21 | Brigo | monitormon, a entire usb for debian, as far as i know, you can't share the usb with debian. |
| 14:52.26 | jelly | dpkg, tell loadsdow` about paste |
| 14:52.40 | monitormon | hm? |
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| 14:53.02 | monitormon | well i need to somehow createa usb installer from the iso |
| 14:53.29 | Brigo | monitormon, are you in windows and want to install debian, am i right? |
| 14:53.42 | ws2k3 | ChrisH and on another pid then pstack just hangs |
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| 14:54.15 | monitormon | yes |
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| 14:54.27 | loadsdow` | http://pastebin.com/PzC4Di3Y |
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| 14:54.37 | monitormon | will format ssd accordingly leaving one unformatted partition for debian |
| 14:54.54 | monitormon | dual boot with windows must work though |
| 14:55.13 | Brigo | monitormon, you can install debian from windows: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
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| 14:55.32 | Brigo | monitormon, the installed can deal with that. |
| 14:55.33 | loadsdow` | then I tried apt-get update and everything failed: http://pastebin.com/sRRnbBHi |
| 14:55.50 | monitormon | Brigo: i need a usb drive with debian not some win32 loader... |
| 14:55.53 | RichN | .changes put in a distribution not listed within it! |
| 14:55.53 | RichN | To ignore use --ignore=wrongdistribution. |
| 14:56.01 | monitormon | is there no way to do that from windows? |
| 14:56.05 | RichN | i think reprepro is broke |
| 14:56.06 | Brigo | monitormon, why did you need the usb driver? |
| 14:56.11 | monitormon | for portability |
| 14:56.40 | RichN | ok anyone have a distributions file they can post |
| 14:56.41 | Brigo | but you can install without it, that win32 loader will launch the debian installer. |
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| 14:58.32 | RichN | http://pastebin.ca/3025673 |
| 14:58.36 | RichN | thats mine |
| 14:58.42 | RichN | I dont see whats wrong |
| 14:58.47 | Brigo | monitormon, you can, of course write a usb stick from windows: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/debian-live-flash-drive-install-from-windows/ |
| 14:59.20 | loadsdow` | Err http://security.debian.org jessie/main Sources |
| 14:59.21 | loadsdow` | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:00.27 | ChrisH | loadsdow`: where do you have that line from? |
| 15:00.38 | monitormon | thank you Brigo |
| 15:00.43 | monitormon | IÃÂ'll try |
| 15:00.47 | Brigo | my security line: deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free |
| 15:00.51 | Brigo | monitormon, np :) |
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| 15:01.29 | RichN | http://pastebin.ca/3025675 |
| 15:01.31 | loadsdow` | that is from apt-get update. everything else works except that source |
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| 15:01.44 | RichN | for 1 you should change that |
| 15:01.51 | RichN | 1 min |
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| 15:02.48 | loadsdow` | @ChrisH here is the pastebin of the full apt-get update command http://pastebin.com/vGGdnfJT |
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| 15:03.06 | RichN | http://pastebin.ca/3025677 |
| 15:03.22 | RichN | thats what should be in /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 15:04.01 | RichN | this will auto select the repo server closest to you |
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| 15:05.51 | loadsdow` | I'm ok with using ftp.debian.org, I don't want to be redirected to a source I don't trust without knowing about it |
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| 15:07.17 | RichN | that is right from debian |
| 15:07.27 | RichN | its the new way of doing things |
| 15:07.42 | RichN | it only uses debian srcs |
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| 15:08.36 | RichN | http://pastebin.ca/3025673 need help finding out why this is causing issues in the repo |
| 15:08.37 | loadsdow` | ok. well, installing chromium is working now without the scary warning about unverified packages. so I'll look into that later, but thanks |
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| 15:10.26 | RichN | .changes put in a distribution not listed within it! |
| 15:10.27 | RichN | To ignore use --ignore=wrongdistribution. |
| 15:10.32 | RichN | this is the error I get |
| 15:10.40 | RichN | its debian jessie |
| 15:10.46 | RichN | is jessie not stable |
| 15:10.55 | RichN | in a repo now |
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| 15:11.58 | RichN | I think its the import script brb |
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| 15:12.58 | themill | loadsdow`: ftp.debian.org is just another mirror and using an unsecured transport just like any other mirror. The trust comes from the gpg signing of the Release file not the admin of the mirror |
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| 15:13.51 | RichN | ok my import script was the issue |
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| 15:14.06 | ws2k3 | jelly any advice on how to use strace and pstack on the dead pids? |
| 15:14.08 | RichN | it was pushing for wheezy when it shoud haave been pushing jessie |
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| 15:17.23 | loadsdow` | @themill you're probably right and I knew I didn't know what I was talking about, but I like to be paranoid. |
| 15:18.01 | loadsdow` | what's an insecure, fast alternative to ssh X11 forwarding ? I have a direct connection between two machines and just need something really fast |
| 15:18.38 | themill | if you have a direct connection you won't find X11 forwarding slow |
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| 15:19.22 | loadsdow` | it's still pretty slow. the window takes about 1 second to refresh |
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| 15:19.41 | loadsdow` | and I have a direct eth connection |
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| 15:28.19 | monitormon | i read that unetbootin does worj with debian 8.1 |
| 15:28.22 | monitormon | swork* |
| 15:28.28 | monitormon | work* ... |
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| 15:28.50 | monitormon | do I have to do anythign special in unetbootin to make a UEFI installation drive of debian? |
| 15:29.04 | valdyn | loadsdow`: it can easily be that slow in a 100mbit eth |
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| 15:30.04 | valdyn | loadsdow`: at 1gbit though, even at worst case you have 31MB per refresh - makes no sense for that to take 1 sec - that that would some different cause |
| 15:30.31 | p8m | monitormon: read the installation manual. It tells you how to install from a usb drive |
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| 15:35.52 | valdyn | loadsdow`: some browsers should be vastly faster over networked X, that is any that dont use certain X extensions to draw |
| 15:36.05 | valdyn | loadsdow`: at least thats what some experiments i did showed, years ago |
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| 15:45.50 | juniorsa | Hi - here is the bootinfoscript output - my system won't boot - any insights ? http://pastebin.com/ztnVBjqL |
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| 15:48.16 | karlpinc | juniorsa: Does the grub boot menu come up? What does "won't boot" mean? |
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| 15:49.16 | monitormon | apparently my wifi card needs non-free drivers on a usb drive: where and how to get them? iwwifi |
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| 15:49.58 | Prem | Hi, I have noticed that when I install Jessie and select the *all files in one partition* layout option, it actually creates 3. sda1 is /, sda5 is swap, and there's an additional sda2 which shows up as an extended partition. This shouldn't really be happening should it? |
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| 15:50.34 | Prem | Also, I updated an old Wheezy server -> Jessie and have noticed the same thing. An additional extended partition seems to have appeared out of nowhere. |
| 15:50.53 | karlpinc | monitormon: This should say: http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch06s04 There's also unoffical images with firmware.... |
| 15:51.23 | karlpinc | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-inclu\ |
| 15:51.27 | karlpinc | ding-firmware/current/ |
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| 15:52.19 | karlpinc | Prem: Yes, it should be happening. PC partition structures are lame. |
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| 15:52.43 | Prem | Err, so this is not a bug karlpinc? |
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| 15:52.59 | Prem | Can you give me a link I can read up on to understand what the reason for this is? |
| 15:53.02 | juniorsa | karlpinc: the error says error: disk `mduuid/ae376c598c768xxxx` not found. Entering rescue mode ... grub rescue > |
| 15:53.02 | karlpinc | Prem: It's a design flaw in the dos-style partition structure. |
| 15:53.28 | Prem | karlpinc: So do you *have* to have more than 2 partitions or something? |
| 15:54.32 | karlpinc | Prem: There's probably something on wikipedia. The keyword would be "extended partition" or something like that. |
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| 15:55.16 | karlpinc | Prem: The limit is 4, unless you have an "extended partition", which creates this extra unused partition. |
| 15:55.58 | Prem | Ah, so I guess debian just creates one regardless of whether you want 4 or more or less |
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| 15:56.17 | monitormon | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/jessie/current/ does the 1 file in that HTTP containing all non-free firmwares? |
| 15:57.05 | juniorsa | karlpinc: I don't know many grub rescue commands but I can also boot into rescue mode from the installation cd - any ideas? |
| 15:57.13 | karlpinc | juniorsa: raid1? |
| 15:57.22 | juniorsa | karlpinc: yes raid1 |
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| 15:57.50 | cybrNaut | ":": Keep a package at its current version. Unlike hold, this will not prevent future upgrades. <== what good is that? |
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| 16:02.18 | karlpinc | juniorsa: I don't recall enough of grub to know if it does raid or not. In ancy case, since it's raid1 then grub can read the data straight off the disk. It's trying to get to a raid1 partition, you want grub instead to go to either the underlying sda2 or sdb2. You should be able to do this by using a device (sda2 would be grub device hda0, iirc) instead of a uuid. Probably in /etc/default/grub. (After modifying /etc/default/grub |
| 16:02.18 | karlpinc | run update-grub.) |
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| 16:02.53 | karlpinc | juniorsa: That should get you booting. But I'm not _really_ thinking here about the "right way". |
| 16:04.00 | karlpinc | oops. saa2 bould be hda1 |
| 16:04.06 | karlpinc | sda2->hda1 |
| 16:04.55 | karlpinc | juniorsa: Did it ever boot? |
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| 16:05.42 | tugrik | juniorsa: karlpinc wouldn't you boot off /dev/md<something> ? |
| 16:06.01 | karlpinc | juniorsa: If grub supports md. I don't recall. |
| 16:06.03 | tugrik | although I looked at booting off RAIDed drives before, and decided it was Too Hard |
| 16:06.23 | juniorsa | tugrik: karlpinc I dont know how to make these changes should I boot using grub rescue or rescue mode from the install cd? |
| 16:06.28 | juniorsa | I'm lost |
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| 16:06.39 | karlpinc | juniorsa: Rescue mode from the install cd. Did it ever boot? |
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| 16:06.57 | juniorsa | karlpinc: no it doesn't boot always the same message since installation was completed |
| 16:07.35 | juniorsa | Doesn't anyone have a step by step of how to do a clean install GPT raid1? it doesn't seem that weird |
| 16:07.43 | imsc | hello guys.. i am stuck with dual boot thinge |
| 16:07.52 | karlpinc | juniorsa: It might possibly be enough to boot from the install cd in rescue mode and run update-grub and install-grub. (And then maybe file a bug report for the installer.) |
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| 16:09.42 | imsc | someone please help me as i am big fan of debian but something wrong with my installation and grub doesn't show up windows........ now i have removed debian also grub is going to rescue mode and doesn't load windows as well.. i want to install debian please help me |
| 16:09.43 | juniorsa | first I assemble raid then I chroot to /dev/md1 then I will run update-grub and then install-grub and reboot |
| 16:10.24 | karlpinc | juniorsa: No, it doesn't. But PC hardware has been so wonky for so long, and it's a bit much to ask of a boot loader to know md (and lvm), so I've always felt safest with a separate boot partition. Call me stodgy. Last time I did it I made a gpt "boot" partition of 1M. This probably does not eliminiate the need for grub to get into the fs to read the boot menu etc, but it worked and I stopped thinking about it. |
| 16:10.25 | valdyn | juniorsa: install where? |
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| 16:10.53 | karlpinc | juniorsa: Just run rescue mode from the install cd and it should take care of it and drop you into root. |
| 16:10.56 | alfatau | hello all. I'm trying to install the new 4.0.5 kernel compiling it from sources and using make-kpkg. I obtained a deb package but the installer seem not to install a new initrd and I think this is the reason for kernel panic at reboot (root not found). what should I do? |
| 16:11.14 | monitormon | for a mroe bleeding edge debian, should I enabke backported software or do I misunderstand that? |
| 16:11.22 | monitormon | enable* |
| 16:11.24 | valdyn | alfatau: use the --initrd switch to make-kpkg |
| 16:11.29 | petn-randall | karlpinc, juniorsa: grub2 handles mdraid1 fine. It's been doing that since wheezy or earlier. |
| 16:11.30 | karlpinc | valdyn: He's having trouble booting. (raid1) see: http://pastebin.com/ztnVBjqL |
| 16:11.47 | imsc | i wanna fix it without windows installer |
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| 16:12.01 | karlpinc | Then something else is broken. Probably re-installing grub will fix it. |
| 16:12.22 | tugrik | ah petn-randall - that's useful to know, thanks |
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| 16:12.41 | karlpinc | monitormon: Backports gets you selected newer packages. |
| 16:12.49 | alfatau | valdyn: I used that switch, but i can't boot. also, my root fs is on linux sw raid 1. |
| 16:12.54 | tugrik | monitormon: I think you want to use debian "testing"; or at least take a look at it |
| 16:12.55 | karlpinc | monitormon: When you ask for them. |
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| 16:13.29 | monitormon | so nothing to loose when installign and enabling them? |
| 16:13.37 | juniorsa | I did a update-grub and install and it gives the same error when I try and boot |
| 16:13.49 | monitormon | tugrik: testing scares me as there are not all security updates etc. |
| 16:13.50 | karlpinc | monitormon: It's safe. |
| 16:13.52 | markand | guys |
| 16:13.56 | monitormon | thank you |
| 16:14.02 | markand | I have debian 8 and I can't add any account in empathy |
| 16:14.20 | markand | the combobox is empty in the question "which account do you have" |
| 16:14.34 | karlpinc | juniorsa: Show us the error again so valdyn can see it. |
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| 16:15.34 | karlpinc | monitormon: Backports do not get the same level of security support as regular packages, but if you need something newer they are the safest approach. (Safest is to stay with stable until the next release. :) |
| 16:15.56 | monitormon | got it |
| 16:16.03 | monitormon | thanks! |
| 16:16.04 | juniorsa | the error says error: disk `mduuid/ae376c598c768xxxx` not found. Entering rescue mode ... grub rescue > |
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| 16:16.58 | alfatau | this is the content of my /boot/ directory, after installing linux-image-4.0.5-custom.deb generated with make-kpkg: http://pastebin.com/cv7Xy0sD |
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| 16:17.40 | markand | nobody knows for empathy ? |
| 16:18.05 | alfatau | initrd-4.0.5 is missing, even if I run nake-kpkg with -initrd switch. |
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| 16:19.28 | karlpinc | I want to customize my runlevels on jessie with systemd. I already tried frobbing the LSB sysv init.d script's comments and running "systemctl isolate runlevel2.target" and this did not shutdown the service I wanted to stop at runlevel 2. What's the right approach? I'm thinking of making my own targets and mainually maintaining all the units in each. (Which is more work than with sysv since there I don't have to manually change the |
| 16:19.28 | karlpinc | defaults.) |
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| 16:21.05 | juniorsa | can anyone suggest another way to solve this problem? I'm dead in the water :) lol - so frustrating to have a system that won't boot but everything is there :( |
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| 16:21.49 | juniorsa | jelly: I know you have been around forever could I ask you to look at my booting problem? http://pastebin.com/ztnVBjqL |
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| 16:23.13 | jelly | juniorsa: sorry, busy. Try not to ask for specific volunteers -- just explain your issue and if anyone in the channel thinks they have the know-how and willingness to help, they will |
| 16:23.31 | Lopt | My computer is sitting behind a DSL router at home. And by default there are two ports open (dhclient,avahi-daemon). Do I have to make port forwarding in DSL router? |
| 16:23.53 | monitormon | is GRUB EFI removable media path a good idea? I am dual booting with windows 8.1 |
| 16:23.59 | tugrik | Lopt: no, you don't need those services to be seen by the Internet |
| 16:24.08 | monitormon | never heard of it before, was using syslinux |
| 16:24.21 | juniorsa | jelly: I know - I am sorry - just desperate lol :) thanks anyways |
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| 16:24.28 | karlpinc | juniorsa: I think going into rescue mode and changing /etc/default/grub to use the /dev/md/.... device for root instead of a uuid and then running update-grub might work. |
| 16:25.10 | Lopt | tugrik: So, by default those services are only accessible by devices from the local network? |
| 16:25.10 | juniorsa | karlpinc: ok I'll try - thanks - I have to run :( I'll get on later and start again :) I appreciate your time and effort! |
| 16:25.32 | tugrik | yes |
| 16:25.45 | tugrik | and I don't think you want either available to the Internet anyway |
| 16:26.39 | tugrik | I'm not sure how dhclient ( which is the DHCP client that asks the local LAN what network configuration you should have ) listens anyway, I think it might be there to see if the local DHCP server pushes out an update |
| 16:27.20 | Lopt | tugrik: Question - I started 'ntpd' for time synchronization. Is there a port forwarding necessary? |
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| 16:27.54 | monitormon | no one knows about grub efi removable media path? |
| 16:28.12 | curby | Lopt: generally speaking, no. most routers by default will forward your internal computers' traffic out to the internet |
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| 16:28.21 | tugrik | no, your debian system should only be connecti.... lopt, what curby said :) |
| 16:28.43 | curby | you'd need to port forward if you're hosting local services (i.e. local web server) that you want to be accessible by folks out on the Internet |
| 16:29.34 | TJ- | monitormon: The "removable media' path is simply a fixed path that UEFI will look to in an ESP if the media doesn't have a UEFI menu entry |
| 16:29.44 | monitormon | TJ do I need it? |
| 16:29.53 | monitormon | I dunno if my motherboard makes problems |
| 16:30.03 | Lopt | curby: But why then I have to have an open port on my Linux System for 'ntpd'? |
| 16:31.03 | Slamd64 | hello I'm new to Debian. However debian-next requires invitiation. How do I get it? Or just a simple question if someone is using stretch: cinnamon is crashing, fresh installation, driver is radeon. What's the problem? |
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| 16:31.25 | monitormon | oh and I thought that UTC is when I have windows too but manual says "use local time"? |
| 16:31.30 | curby | Lopt: it may be configured to serve time to other computers on your internal network. that's a separate issue from whether you want to serve time to the internet |
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| 16:32.32 | Lopt | curby: If I browse the internet, there is no open tcp port by default on my Linux machine. But what I don't understand why it's necessary for ntpd (udp port)? |
| 16:32.43 | bierdieb | hi. how to set a fresh formated usb card to be wrioteable without beeing root? |
| 16:33.09 | cybrNaut | bierdieb: probably need to edit your /etc/fstab file |
| 16:33.46 | cybrNaut | /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 16:33.46 | TJ- | monitormon: If there's "/EFI/BOOT/BOOTX64.EFI" it'll be used |
| 16:33.51 | cybrNaut | for example |
| 16:34.27 | bierdieb | ill try that |
| 16:34.33 | bierdieb | thx cybrNaut |
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| 16:36.05 | cybrNaut | if i manually install a package that later becomes market "obsolete" in aptitude, what's the best way to keep it? |
| 16:36.10 | cybrNaut | should I put a hold on it? |
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| 16:36.16 | cybrNaut | technically, i do not intend to hold back the version |
| 16:36.29 | bierdieb | cybrNaut, thats the entry i found in fstab, same as you posted |
| 16:37.14 | cybrNaut | bierdieb: not sure then... i would have thought that the "user" option coupled with the "rw" is good enough |
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| 16:37.59 | cybrNaut | bierdieb: but i think i noticed the same block recently, so I used root (didn't have time to fiddle around) |
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| 16:38.17 | cybrNaut | bierdieb: but this may be a new feature of jessie.. i didn't used to have that limitation |
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| 16:39.29 | monitormon | great, it seems that Debian didn't install any wifi packages... how am I supposed to download packages now? :/ |
| 16:40.00 | cybrNaut | monitormon: get some proper hardware that has /free/ drivers |
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| 16:40.13 | monitormon | just got new hardware, need it to work |
| 16:40.14 | cybrNaut | monitormon: boycott your non-free hardware makers |
| 16:40.29 | monitormon | what is the command to use wifi on debian? |
| 16:40.31 | cybrNaut | monitormon: all the better -- easier to return |
| 16:40.35 | monitormon | maybe im just missing it? |
| 16:40.47 | monitormon | i got firmware on usb drive (used it for installation) |
| 16:40.57 | monitormon | the manual only lists stuff that isn't there by default |
| 16:41.09 | cybrNaut | monitormon: "network manager" is the stock GUI tool for wifi, wpasupplicant is the commandline tool for hackers |
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| 16:41.13 | monitormon | (i have no DE, also did expert install) |
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| 16:41.48 | monitormon | i would think debian includes nmcli in install |
| 16:42.03 | curby | Lopt: I think that's the nature of UDP: ntpd is listening for reply packets on udp/123 to its client queries |
| 16:42.13 | cybrNaut | monitormon: seriously, return your gear, since you're still in the return policy, and tell them the reason is "poor opensource free linux support for hippies" |
| 16:42.15 | monitormon | what do i have to do now? reinstall with different settings (sucks) or can I somehow get back to having wifi? |
| 16:42.58 | cybrNaut | we need to establish metrics for consumers rejecting being owned by big corps and their controlling proprietary crap |
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| 16:44.29 | tugrik | Lopt: that's how ntpd works - if you want something that doesn't listen then look at the openntpd package instread |
| 16:44.44 | tugrik | but ntpd listening on your internal network shouldn't be too much of a problem |
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| 16:45.44 | monitormon | .... what do i do now? |
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| 16:47.46 | tugrik | monitormon: there's now way to connect via ethernet? |
| 16:47.51 | monitormon | no |
| 16:48.19 | tugrik | and no spare USB wifi devices around that might work? |
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| 16:48.22 | jhutchins | monitormon: You can set up wifi connections manually, or if you installed network manager you should have the cli interface. |
| 16:48.47 | monitormon | how would i install packages selected during expert mode installation? i am willing to reinstall later properly |
| 16:48.50 | monitormon | tugrik: no |
| 16:49.04 | tugrik | ah, so you've got a wireless device that works monitormon - but not the software to manage it? |
| 16:49.06 | monitormon | jhutchins: i dont think i could enter random package names while install |
| 16:49.12 | tugrik | does "iwconfig" show anything? |
| 16:49.20 | monitormon | it needed firmware, which i have on usb drive |
| 16:49.32 | monitormon | iwconfig: command not found |
| 16:49.39 | tugrik | ah |
| 16:49.46 | jhutchins | monitormon: dmesg should show where it's looking for firmware (if it is). |
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| 16:50.01 | jelly | monitormon: /sbin/iwconfig ? |
| 16:50.12 | monitormon | YES! |
| 16:50.17 | monitormon | why isn't that in PATH? |
| 16:50.17 | tugrik | ah yes, are you trying "iwconfig" as.... |
| 16:50.28 | tugrik | gives jelly some kind of irc based reward |
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| 16:50.41 | monitormon | iwconfig as what tugrik ? :) |
| 16:50.43 | tugrik | are you root monitormon ? |
| 16:50.48 | monitormon | i use sudo |
| 16:50.49 | jhutchins | monitormon: http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 16:50.52 | jelly | monitormon: sudo often manages not to give root the correct PATH |
| 16:51.03 | jelly | monitormon: PATH=/usr/sbin:/sbin:$PATH |
| 16:51.04 | monitormon | what to do then? |
| 16:51.07 | monitormon | thanks |
| 16:51.12 | monitormon | and then export=PATH? |
| 16:51.18 | jhutchins | monitormon: http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 16:51.22 | jelly | no need to, it's exported already |
| 16:51.26 | tugrik | if you've just got a command line monitormon - I've found "wicd" a friendly interface to making wireless work |
| 16:51.32 | monitormon | jelly: as normal user or sudo? |
| 16:51.35 | tugrik | ( depends on if it's installed of course ) |
| 16:51.36 | jhutchins | sudo uses the current user's environment, including the path. |
| 16:51.49 | monitormon | ok |
| 16:51.51 | jelly | monitormon: use sudo -i to open a root shell. Then work from there |
| 16:52.11 | jhutchins | tugrik: Generally nm works better than wicd since late lenny or so. |
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| 16:52.38 | tugrik | fair point jhutchins , but network manager and I aren't on speaking terms |
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| 16:56.37 | curby | tugrik: just curious, why do you prefer openntp over something like chrony? or was your suggestion solely based on Lopt's networking concern? |
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| 16:57.47 | tugrik | curby: because ntpd listening as always annoyed me, as some of my systems are Internet facing... and I recently read that openntpd was an alternative that didn't listen by default |
| 16:58.12 | tugrik | otherwise I've used ntpdate or rdate with handwritten /etc/cron.d entries... so I'll take a look at chrony actually :) |
| 16:58.41 | valdyn | tugrik: or use timedatectl |
| 16:58.52 | monitormon | i am not able to connect via iwconfig ... |
| 16:59.11 | curby | i don't really use it, but it's supposed to be a nice up-and-coming time sync solution so i was wondering if you had tried it and discarded it for some reason |
| 16:59.14 | curby | http://chrony.tuxfamily.org/faq.html#_how_does_code_chrony_code_compare_to_code_ntpd_code |
| 16:59.47 | tugrik | cheers valdyn - that looks useful |
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| 17:01.07 | RichN | ok back |
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| 17:01.41 | RichN | i forget where you set it not to sign |
| 17:01.53 | monitormon | can i during debian install ask for custom packages line by line? |
| 17:02.04 | valdyn | RichN: the package should be built even when signing fails |
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| 17:03.08 | RichN | ok |
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| 17:04.41 | cybrNaut | if i manually install a package that later becomes market "obsolete" in aptitude, what's the best way to keep it? |
| 17:05.12 | jelly | cybrNaut: it gets kept by default |
| 17:06.00 | cybrNaut | jelly: aptitude seems to want to remove all obsolete packages.. that is the action it's suggesting |
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| 17:06.18 | valdyn | !remove obsolete packages |
| 17:06.23 | valdyn | uh |
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| 17:06.52 | jelly | cybrNaut: huh. quit its UI, tell it to "aptitude install packagename" in CLI, and see if that helps? |
| 17:07.16 | itry | Hello! I did "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" on my Debian 7 machine today. Now when I turn it on, I see a black screen with a white blinking cursor for a while and then only a black screen. How would you go about this? |
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| 17:08.12 | itry | So I guess it kille grub somehow? Because normally, I get a boot menu. |
| 17:08.18 | cybrNaut | jelly: the cli approach says "No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed." |
| 17:08.37 | jelly | cybrNaut: that's good |
| 17:09.07 | jelly | not try the action that resulted in aptitude wanting to remove all the obsolete stuff, again |
| 17:09.21 | cybrNaut | jelly: well, it's a contradiction. the UI would remove 215 packages that it considers obsolete |
| 17:09.33 | RichN | .changes put in a distribution not listed within it! |
| 17:09.33 | RichN | To ignore use --ignore=wrongdistribution. |
| 17:09.33 | RichN | There have been errors! |
| 17:09.36 | RichN | hmmm |
| 17:09.40 | jelly | cybrNaut: does it still include your package? |
| 17:09.52 | teclo- | heh "wrongdistribution" |
| 17:10.09 | jelly | !tell RichN about paste |
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| 17:10.32 | cybrNaut | jelly: yes, it's still listed for removal by the UI |
| 17:10.47 | jelly | cybrNaut: sigh. Oh well, then aptitude hold packagename |
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| 17:12.00 | linuxthefish | why are all ports showing as filtered by default? :/ |
| 17:12.09 | linuxthefish | on nmap 172.0.0.1 -p 1337 |
| 17:12.10 | cybrNaut | jelly: in principle, i do not intend to hold the version back. if, for example the /pwsafe/ package were to make a comeback, i would want upgrades |
| 17:12.29 | cybrNaut | ,v pwsafe |
| 17:12.30 | judd | Package: pwsafe on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.2.0-3 |
| 17:12.31 | valdyn | linuxthefish: they are not, in debian |
| 17:12.51 | linuxthefish | oh whoops 127.0.0.1 typo sorry! |
| 17:13.41 | valdyn | 1337/tcp closed waste |
| 17:13.44 | jelly | cybrNaut: no idea, then |
| 17:14.07 | cybrNaut | jelly: i see this option.. maybe this is better? => ":": Keep a package at its current version. Unlike hold, this will not prevent future upgrades. |
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| 17:14.32 | monitormon | is it possible to install custom packages at expert installation? |
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| 17:15.18 | monitormon | during installation* |
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| 17:17.18 | jelly | cybrNaut: perhaps, I don't know what it does |
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| 17:18.35 | cybrNaut | jelly: just tried it. it seemed to ignore my ":". so i did "=" for a hold and it took that |
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| 17:19.39 | cybrNaut | but it still did not remove it from the list.. just put an "h" next to the package name |
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| 17:20.08 | itry | Hello! I did "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" on my Debian 7 machine today. Now when I turn it on, I see a black screen with a white blinking cursor for a while and then only a black screen. How would you guys go about this? |
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| 17:21.11 | cybrNaut | maybe it's good enough. when i hit "g", it does not put pwsafe in the list of things it's about to remove |
| 17:22.12 | itry | is there a way to reset the machine while it hangs in that state? |
| 17:23.31 | itry | woah! i was wrong. it hangs *after* grub. |
| 17:23.45 | itry | just when it wants to start debian. |
| 17:24.13 | cybrNaut | itry: try hitting control-alt-F5, and then login to a terminal and do a /ps/ or /top/ to see what's going on, if needed |
| 17:24.33 | cybrNaut | itry: and remember to hit control-alt-F7 to get back |
| 17:24.36 | itry | cybrNaut: nothing happens when i hit ctrl+alt+f5 |
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| 17:24.53 | itry | it shows grub, then the screen goes black, thats it. |
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| 17:25.05 | cybrNaut | guess it's not far enough along in the boot process then |
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| 17:25.23 | cybrNaut | itry: you might ask in #grub.. although it's hard to get support on it |
| 17:25.44 | cybrNaut | grub can be buggy |
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| 17:27.07 | blocky | hi, i'm having a very odd clock drift issue |
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| 17:27.39 | blocky | i'm using a thinkpad with debian 8 installed on the hard drive, no VMs, and i haven't been booting any other OS |
| 17:27.54 | blocky | yesterday my clock was off by 5 hours, and today it's off by 7 |
| 17:28.08 | blocky | but the minutes are still correct, so i don't think it's a cmos battery issue |
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| 17:28.16 | itry | guess i have to install a new instance of debian. will go for debian 8 then. |
| 17:28.27 | blocky | and the time zone is still correct, my clock just says Fri Jun 12 03:28:19 PDT 2015 |
| 17:28.48 | itry | can i copy debian to an usb stick with "dd if=debian...iso of=/dev/sdb"? |
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| 17:29.13 | jelly | blocky: do you have other operating systems installed and dual-booting? |
| 17:29.33 | cybrNaut | blocky: i've seen that before |
| 17:29.37 | jelly | itry: yes, but it's shorter and safer to do cp debia...iso /dev/sdb |
| 17:29.43 | blocky | jelly: no |
| 17:29.54 | cybrNaut | blocky: indeed a bad battery can cause hours or years to be lost, and not minutes or seconds |
| 17:30.02 | cybrNaut | (iirc) |
| 17:30.06 | blocky | cybrNaut: interesting |
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| 17:31.12 | cybrNaut | blocky: i think in my case it was predicable.. like it would always loose 10 years every boot. instead of getting a new battery, i just had a boot script make a correction |
| 17:31.27 | itry | jelly: shorter? |
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| 17:31.38 | jelly | blocky: hm, dual-booting into windows would be a common cause. Did you use suspend or hibernate, or shut down the machine properly? |
| 17:31.47 | jelly | itry: shorter to type! |
| 17:31.49 | blocky | i usually suspend |
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| 17:32.04 | blocky | and i haven't booted windows since it's happened |
| 17:32.13 | cybrNaut | blocky: you could probably just have it corrected on every bootup by querying an NTP server, and once you're running it probably won't lose time |
| 17:32.22 | jelly | blocky: set the clock correctly, and power off the machine properly. Wait... so you _do_ have windows installed? |
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| 17:32.40 | blocky | jelly: yes i have windows installed |
| 17:32.44 | jelly | in that case, |
| 17:32.46 | jelly | !utc |
| 17:32.46 | dpkg | Coordinated Universal Time (UTC) is the standard by which the world regulates clocks and time (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time). For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems, set "UTC" or "LOCAL" in /etc/adjtime (man 8 hwclock). For Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" systems, set the UTC option in /etc/default/rcS appropriately (man rcs). For all systems, run «service hwclock.sh restart» to apply changes. See also <windows utc>. |
| 17:32.48 | blocky | but you asked if i was booting it, which i'm not |
| 17:32.51 | jelly | oops. |
| 17:32.55 | jelly | !windows utc |
| 17:32.55 | dpkg | Setting the BIOS clock to <UTC> is a little more difficult if you dual-boot with legacy operating systems that think that local time is a good choice. Windows can be instructed to handle a BIOS clock in UTC too: http://superuser.com/a/185780/130459 |
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| 17:33.25 | jelly | right. blocky: use the LOCAL option if you ever plan to boot windows again. |
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| 17:34.03 | Z-Chymera | hi guys, I am trying to find the cmake-build afni sources on neurodebian, but I cannot, can you maybe help me navigate this website? where are the sources linked? http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-exppsy/afni.git/ |
| 17:34.41 | blocky | jelly: ok thanks, will do |
| 17:35.11 | cybrNaut | or put windows in a VM sandbox |
| 17:35.22 | cybrNaut | instead of dual booting |
| 17:35.38 | cybrNaut | it's a step closer to phasing windows out |
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| 17:35.54 | cybrNaut | if you can't do cold-turkey |
| 17:35.58 | blocky | i have windows in a vm too, the main thing i use it for is excel |
| 17:36.09 | blocky | and some tax software that i'm scared to run in wine |
| 17:36.27 | Z-Chymera | blocky: use gnumeric in lieu of excel |
| 17:36.33 | cybrNaut | blocky: linux has gnucash and ledger for accounting |
| 17:36.43 | Z-Chymera | also, can anybody help me browse the neurodebian sources? |
| 17:36.55 | blocky | Z-Chymera: heh, somehow it's not as good |
| 17:37.08 | blocky | cybrNaut: this program submits my tax return online to the canadian government |
| 17:37.17 | cybrNaut | ah |
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| 17:37.57 | cybrNaut | blocky: even so, it'd at least be better to dual boot debian and OS/X in that case |
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| 17:38.46 | cybrNaut | os/x is more robust than windows, and more controllable, easy to get under the hood if needed |
| 17:38.57 | cybrNaut | and it probably handles the clock sensibly |
| 17:39.06 | nieas | What a great improvement that since jessie one needs superuser rights for pinging! |
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| 17:40.38 | cybrNaut | nieas: i was just able to ping from jessie with user rights only |
| 17:42.09 | Tekcap | Anyone know why I'm not getting an answer from my pings in the following situation : iptables is set to drop all input, forward,output, with the following exceptions: port 22(ssh) is allowed bidirectionaly, all traffic is allowed to pass through wlan1. I use ping -I wlan1 ipaddress and it sends fine, but i never get an answer. I opened iptables to allow all traffix in and out from wlan1(usb wifi card), so im not sure why i dont |
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| 17:45.26 | nieas | cybrNaut: Then it might only not be possible on a live system because one gets "ping: icmp open socket: Operation not permitted" |
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| 17:47.23 | Eduard_Munteanu | Tekcap, is traffic incoming on wlan1 permitted in INPUT? |
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| 17:49.51 | jelly | cybrNaut: OS X only works on one vendor's hardware, and is in that respect a lot more closed than windows |
| 17:50.07 | Tekcap | Eduard, i used the following command , so i think it should be. : iptables -A output -o wlan1 -p all -j accept |
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| 17:51.23 | Tekcap | Sorry that was for output, this is for input: iptables -A input -i wlan1 -p all accept |
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| 17:52.29 | conny__ | hi |
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| 17:53.01 | cybrNaut | jelly: i think you mean os/x is only "officially supported" on apple hardware by apple. |
| 17:53.03 | conny__ | is it possible that debian doesnt load modules from /etc/modules at boot time? |
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| 17:54.14 | cybrNaut | MS Windows has no opensource components, iirc, whereas Apple opens up the kernal, but closes aqua and the like |
| 17:54.14 | acz32 | cybrNaut: no. it means it's intentionally designed to be locked into one vendor's hardware and to be a pain to get running on something else |
| 17:54.19 | jelly | cybrNaut: OS X, without slash, yes, is not supported on a machine branded "thinkpad" |
| 17:55.13 | acz32 | even getting os x to run in a VM is a challenge, which is stupid |
| 17:55.31 | jelly | in any case, using local time for hwclock when dual booting with windows is a well known workaround |
| 17:55.35 | cybrNaut | some german company supplies os/x on non-apple h/w |
| 17:55.46 | cybrNaut | officially supported.. just not by apple |
| 17:56.05 | jelly | so suggesting use of different closed source OS seems silly |
| 17:56.44 | cybrNaut | jelly: it's less closed than windows -- but indeed he should do away with both if possible |
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| 17:57.23 | cybrNaut | os/x has "finck", which is a package manager for gnu tools |
| 17:57.32 | acz32 | it's not os/x, it's os x |
| 17:57.39 | jelly | cybrNaut: it's irrelevant here anyway. |
| 17:57.47 | cybrNaut | and there is an x11 component as well |
| 17:58.02 | Sendoushi | so... The question ehehe. which desktop environments have you been using? :D |
| 17:58.10 | jelly | !polls |
| 17:58.10 | dpkg | "Does anyone have X or use Y?" is taking a poll, not asking a good question that IRC helpers can answer. Don't do it or sussudio's army of militant badgers will hurt you. Also see <ask> and <bad polls>. |
| 17:58.31 | jelly | Sendoushi: but feel free to ask in #debian-offtopic instead |
| 17:58.52 | Sendoushi | oooh sorry sorry |
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| 18:03.34 | cybrNaut | how can i ask aptitude why unetbootin is obsolete, and what package replaces it? |
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| 18:05.13 | acz32 | cybrNaut: you can't |
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| 18:05.59 | acz32 | what's wrong with just using dd? |
| 18:06.21 | RichN | ok got it .. repo is working cool |
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| 18:06.58 | jelly | acz32: dd has silly block size defaults, cp is saner |
| 18:07.04 | cybrNaut | acz32: i normally use dd, and sometimes i need isohybrid as well, but some distros can't work with either |
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| 18:07.25 | acz32 | jelly: cp to write an iso? |
| 18:07.30 | jelly | acz32: correct. |
| 18:07.59 | jelly | acz32: as documented in release notes of debian 7 and 8! |
| 18:09.01 | acz32 | interesting. never tried that. dd can usually write 1GB in a minute or so with defaults. i've never bothered changing block size |
| 18:09.03 | cybrNaut | iirc, i needed unetbootin to install an ISO that updated hardware firmware |
| 18:09.10 | cybrNaut | dd didn't work |
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| 18:10.06 | cybrNaut | isohybrid only works in some situations |
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| 18:13.42 | cybrNaut | i really had to dig to find out why the pwsafe package was dropped from debian |
| 18:14.03 | cybrNaut | there seems to be no site that documents why packages get dropped |
| 18:14.31 | cybrNaut | just bits and pieces here and there |
| 18:14.36 | cybrNaut | clues |
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| 18:17.46 | nick[0] | omg, I'm an idiot...I hadn't realised that cups-bsd wasn't installed/quit |
| 18:17.49 | nick[0] | reset |
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| 18:18.35 | nieas | cybrNaut: usually a package gets dropped if no one is maintaining it any longer... |
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| 18:20.21 | cybrNaut | nieas: or if it's merged into another existing package, or if another existing package is simply better in every way, making it redundant |
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| 18:21.00 | cybrNaut | it would be useful to be able to easily find out what decisions were made |
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| 18:21.15 | robinsz | Hi, I know this is a non-debian question .. but anyway ... is there a tool for analyzing Apace logs and guessing which vuln scanner has just been run against you? |
| 18:21.30 | jelly | judd: bug rm pwsafe |
| 18:21.33 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/619704 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: pwsafe -- RoQA; dead upstream, orphaned, alternatives exist»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-03-26; last modified: 2011-04-26. |
| 18:21.38 | jelly | cybrNaut: ^^ |
| 18:22.15 | cybrNaut | judd: bug rm unetbootin |
| 18:22.18 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/516822 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: unetbootin [alpha armel hppa ia64 mips mipsel powerpc s390 sparc] -- ANAIS; uninstallable and unusable on these arches»; severity: normal; opened: 2009-02-23; last modified: 2009-03-24. |
| 18:22.21 | cybrNaut | jelly: thanks |
| 18:22.31 | jelly | cybrNaut: do it in private, btw, /msg judd ... |
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| 18:25.26 | nmschulte_ | I just got an email from Skype saying someone changed my password. Do you think they bruteforced my account and know my credentials, or reset it somehow otherwise? What should I do? |
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| 18:26.28 | nmschulte_ | Frak... wrong channel. Sorry all. |
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| 18:27.31 | reber | hi all. I got a problem with glx. Can't get it work anymore. On lenovo T400, Card: Intel Mobile 4 Series Integrated Graphics Controller |
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| 18:28.21 | coxn | greetings. After the most recent kernel upgrade I had to add this to my /etc/sysctl.conf to get networking back (this is an IPv6-only host), and I'm wondering what might have happened to make this so: net.ipv6.conf.eth0.disable_ipv6=0 |
| 18:30.30 | coxn | before making that sysctl change, I was getting this: RTNETLINK answers: Permission denied |
| 18:30.38 | coxn | whenever networking was restarted |
| 18:31.10 | coxn | I have static networking set up in /etc/networking/interfaces on this host, which is running Jessie |
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| 18:31.37 | coxn | I'm confused as to what might've changed between the last two boots that would make networking behave this way |
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| 18:32.13 | coxn | it seems clear to me that I've missed something or I don't understand something about static networking using /etc/network/interfaces in Jessie |
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| 18:33.15 | coxn | I have a second host that is dual-stacked (has both public IPv4 and IPv6 addrs) that went AWOL after the last kernel upgrade, but a simple reboot brought that host back, which is possibly even more baffling |
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| 18:36.42 | cybrNaut | so if there are no removal reasons known to judd, where else would removal be documented? e.g. snort: |
| 18:36.46 | cybrNaut | judd: bug rm snort |
| 18:36.49 | judd | Sorry, no removal reasons were found. |
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| 18:37.47 | jelly | ,v snort |
| 18:37.48 | judd | Package: snort on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.8.5.2-8; wheezy: 2.9.2.2-3; sid: 2.9.7.0-4 |
| 18:37.53 | jelly | cybrNaut: it's not removed. |
| 18:38.13 | greycat | Was it omitted from jessie due to RC bugs? |
| 18:38.44 | jelly | cybrNaut: go to packages.debian.org/packagename or packages.qa.debian.org/packagename, and look at its RC-severity bugs |
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| 18:39.23 | jelly | greycat: considering it's not even in testing yet.. probably |
| 18:40.30 | jelly | cybrNaut: much of the information that judd knows about can be found on those two web sites, the bot is just very convenient |
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| 18:40.51 | cybrNaut | yes, i quite like using the bot |
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| 18:42.11 | cybrNaut | jelly: what's an "RC" bug? |
| 18:42.17 | greycat | Release-Critical |
| 18:42.31 | greycat | !release-critical |
| 18:42.31 | dpkg | Release-Critical bugs are Debian bugs with critical, grave or serious severities, preventing the next release of Debian. See the graph at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ or the lists at http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html http://udd.debian.org/bugs.cgi?release=wheezy&patch=ign&pending=ign&merged=ign&done=ign&rc=1 . See also <rc-alert>. |
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| 18:43.49 | erdea | How do i seperate two dual display screen? |
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| 18:43.59 | elloi | after doing upgrades, my touchpad click is not working anymore (working fine on windows); i'm on debian unstable |
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| 18:44.22 | HSorgYves | Does bind9 still use /etc/fefault/bind9 on jessie while starting? |
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| 18:44.55 | nmschulte_ | Does anyone use e.g. https://github.com/wertarbyte/autorandr to automatically manage dynamic displays in Xorg? |
| 18:45.18 | cybrNaut | snort has an important bug filed 6 years ago, and one from 9 years ago |
| 18:45.35 | cybrNaut | so i'm not sure why snort was dropped in jessie |
| 18:45.36 | erdea | I got two displays but its show the same phing |
| 18:45.49 | erdea | How do i make then as one screen? |
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| 18:46.15 | nmschulte_ | erdea: look at xrandr |
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| 18:48.25 | bitanarchy | Why is does pulseaudio not get installed as a service on debian 8? |
| 18:49.25 | cybrNaut | ideally i should be able to go to https://packages.debian.org/jessie/snort, and see an explanation about why it's omitted |
| 18:49.35 | erdea | I got openbox but how do i mount two hard drives auto? |
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| 18:50.28 | monitormon | hi it's me again. I can't figure it out. I installed debian using nonfree firmware for wifi from a usb drive |
| 18:50.33 | monitormon | after installation there is no wifi |
| 18:50.43 | monitormon | only iwconfig and wpa_supplciant and it's not working either |
| 18:50.59 | monitormon | i want nmcli, how can I specify during installaton what packages I want? |
| 18:51.00 | monitormon | thanks+ |
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| 18:53.12 | HSorgYves | Which script does systemctl use to restart a service? |
| 18:53.36 | greycat | It uses the "unit file", which is not a shell script. |
| 18:53.41 | greycat | Nor is it a single file. |
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| 18:54.02 | jelly | monitormon: you could use preseed, or you could switch to console Alt-F3 before the reboot, chroot into your installed OS and install things |
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| 18:54.53 | monitormon | ok i do that then, so I have to reinstall Debian: what do I do with the EFI partition with GRUB and windows bootloader jelly? |
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| 18:55.15 | jelly | monitormon: I don't know anything about EFI or windows, sorry |
| 18:55.25 | monitormon | ok |
| 18:55.28 | monitormon | .( |
| 18:55.35 | monitormon | :( |
| 18:55.40 | greycat | HSorgYves: if you know the systemd unit name (e.g. nginx.service) you can use a command like this to see the unit file: systemctl cat nginx.service |
| 18:55.47 | jelly | monitormon: buy me an EFI laptop and I'll try things! |
| 18:55.48 | monitormon | i don't want to reinstall _everything_ again |
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| 18:56.00 | greycat | HSorgYves: and you can use systemctl -a to see a list of all the unit names |
| 18:56.05 | jelly | hides |
| 18:56.10 | monitormon | jelly: :P |
| 18:56.15 | HSorgYves | greycat: thx |
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| 18:56.44 | cybrNaut | The "A" flag is missing for a lot of libs. Most libs are not manually installed -- so why would aptitude think otherwise? |
| 18:56.51 | monitormon | so no one in here ever wanted to reinstall debian along side windows? if so, what do I have to worry about when (re)installing the bootloader? |
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| 18:57.27 | HSorgYves | greycat: this means for bind the /etc/default/bind9 file is no longer read as far as I can see... how to modify the unit file? |
| 18:57.29 | greycat | monitormon: make sure the os-prober command is installed so grub will look for Windows and add it to the grub menu |
| 18:57.46 | greycat | HSorgYves: I don't know the details of that particular package |
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| 18:58.20 | klys | monitormon, you can download the windows .iso and boot it with qemu and ask it to fix the windows bootloader for your resized partition |
| 18:58.35 | klys | pvscan --cache /dev/sdc5; Command failed with status code 5. (EIO) |
| 18:58.43 | HSorgYves | greycat: but there must be a way to modify a unit file? |
| 18:58.46 | greycat | if you install the windows boot loader on the disk, you won't be able to boot Linux |
| 18:58.52 | monitormon | or can I install debian first and later install windows? |
| 18:59.06 | monitormon | no no windows is there already and working |
| 18:59.08 | monitormon | debian isn't |
| 18:59.14 | monitormon | so I have to reinstall to get my wifi working |
| 18:59.17 | greycat | HSorgYves: if you want to override part of a unit file, you do so by creating a new directory under /etc/systemd/system/ and putting a file in it. |
| 18:59.43 | greycat | HSorgYves: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/SystemdNoClear describes this a little bit |
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| 19:00.28 | klys | is there a reason pvscan would not work with sdc5 |
| 19:02.12 | monitormon | jelly: how would I chroot anyway? # chroot /mnt/? |
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| 19:02.34 | coxn | I'm looking at https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/04/msg01194.html and that confirms what I thought: my /etc/network/interfaces for static, IPv6-only networking should work fine. I'm still confused as to why I had to add net.ipv6.conf.eth0.disable_ipv6=0 to my /etc/sysctl.conf to get networking back after my last reboot to pick up the newest kernel |
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| 19:02.57 | coxn | any feedback on IPv6 networking under Jessie would be most appreciated |
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| 19:06.30 | cybrNaut | html2text is in jessie, yet aptitude has decided it's not. e.g. |
| 19:06.33 | cybrNaut | ,v html2text |
| 19:06.34 | judd | Package: html2text on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.3.2a-15; squeeze: 1.3.2a-15; stretch: 1.3.2a-18; jessie: 1.3.2a-18; sid: 1.3.2a-18 |
| 19:06.51 | cybrNaut | aptitude thinks it's obsolete |
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| 19:08.02 | monitormon | how would I chroot during installation anyway? # chroot /mnt/? |
| 19:08.03 | jelly | monitormon: I think the installer uses /target as mountpoint for the system... if it umounted already, then you have to mount it manually and use something like that. |
| 19:08.15 | monitormon | hmm |
| 19:08.27 | reber | i have no glx working anymore ias it worked out of the box before ... Ideas ? |
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| 19:08.38 | reber | s/ias/as |
| 19:08.52 | monitormon | which packages will i need? networkmanager (for nmcli) and what for non free firmware? |
| 19:09.15 | jelly | monitormon: firmware depends on the card |
| 19:09.31 | monitormon | can I install a metapackage for all or is that a bad idea? |
| 19:09.44 | monitormon | anything else besides these 2? |
| 19:09.48 | jelly | I don't think there is one |
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| 19:11.06 | HSorgYves | greycat: this will not override the settings but add it, which will not work in my case :-( |
| 19:11.21 | greycat | It overrides. That's how I get rid of the screen-clearing. |
| 19:11.46 | HSorgYves | greycat: i want to modify ExecStart |
| 19:11.57 | greycat | The stuff in /etc/systemd/system/SERVICE.d/whatever overrides the same-named settings in /lib/systemd/system/SERVICE |
| 19:12.00 | monitormon | wait jelly: can't I boot into debian netinst and do chroot from there without reinstalling? |
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| 19:12.47 | greycat | Then, when the package is updated and /lib/systemd/system/SERVICE is overwritten, your local modifications in /etc are still there, still overriding it. |
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| 19:13.00 | HSorgYves | greycat: http://pastebin.com/h4jnUhSF |
| 19:13.29 | HSorgYves | i see it appended and no overwritten, maybe I am doing omething wrogn |
| 19:14.05 | greycat | HSorgYves: try it and see if it works |
| 19:14.13 | greycat | (I'm quite new to systemd too!) |
| 19:14.15 | monitormon | i read the manual it doesn't state either of my problems, can somebody help me please? :) |
| 19:14.16 | HSorgYves | greycat: it doesn't |
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| 19:14.29 | monitormon | (read the peices of the manual that concerned me... anyways) |
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| 19:14.55 | greycat | HSorgYves: where does $OPTIONS come from? |
| 19:15.13 | HSorgYves | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:15.31 | greycat | What makes you think that file is read? |
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| 19:15.40 | HSorgYves | EnvironmentFile=-/etc/default/bind9 |
| 19:15.43 | jelly | monitormon: you probably can, but I'm not sure at which point you have network configured, but no changes to the existing installation done |
| 19:16.04 | nuentoter | can someone help? on typing in ./winetricks i get ./winetricks: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `<' |
| 19:16.25 | jelly | monitormon: I use grml.org for recovery purposes, d-i netinst is a bit too spartan |
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| 19:17.29 | HSorgYves | greycat: i found the solution |
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| 19:17.52 | HSorgYves | greycat: you need to clear ExecStart before you can overwrite it... |
| 19:17.59 | greycat | eh? |
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| 19:19.09 | HSorgYves | greycat: http://pastebin.com/gbHcunJ0 |
| 19:19.42 | greycat | I can't imagine why that would matter.... |
| 19:19.47 | greycat | Is it documented somewhere? |
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| 19:20.06 | HSorgYves | greycat: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=756787#c9 |
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| 19:20.59 | monitormon | i dont get debian i guess... |
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| 19:22.24 | monitormon | i have windows and debian already installed but debian has no wifi right now because i couldn't add packages during installation |
| 19:22.33 | monitormon | i cant connect to ethernet |
| 19:22.37 | monitormon | what do I have to do? |
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| 19:22.58 | monitormon | reinstall debian? -> what to do with the EFI System Partition then |
| 19:23.27 | monitormon | install debian and erase windows? -> what to do after installing Windows later then? |
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| 19:25.38 | jelly | monitormon: if windows boots, you can download packages there and install them later with dpkg... |
| 19:25.51 | monitormon | yes hwo?! |
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| 19:26.37 | jelly | download them from web, packages.debian.org |
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| 19:29.12 | monitormon | no networkmanager in there: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=networkmanager |
| 19:29.15 | monitormon | ?? |
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| 19:31.09 | monitormon | oh now it does |
| 19:31.22 | monitormon | do i need to download every package manuall that the one in question depends on? |
| 19:31.27 | monitormon | jelly: ^ |
| 19:32.08 | g00se | >>Add. Sense: Read of scrambled sector without authentication<< Is that sort of guff to do with region locking on DVDs? |
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| 19:39.15 | jhutchins | g00se: Could be, or a bad disk. |
| 19:39.29 | jhutchins | g00se: ... or a bad drive |
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| 19:40.19 | jhutchins | monitormon: How else would you get them? |
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| 19:40.46 | jhutchins | monitormon: They might be on the install disk though, I believe most of networking is. |
| 19:42.00 | monitormon | where on there are th? |
| 19:42.02 | monitormon | they* |
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| 19:43.24 | reber | anyone ? |
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| 19:54.05 | monitormon | ok reinstalling debian jhutchins, i still have windows on the hd - what bootloader will i have to isntall if any? |
| 19:54.16 | monitormon | bootloader grub |
| 19:54.28 | monitormon | but it wants, on install, create a EFI System Partition |
| 19:54.32 | monitormon | which already exists |
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| 19:55.56 | Smeggie | should i have debian testing enabled |
| 19:55.59 | Smeggie | in my sources list |
| 19:56.04 | Smeggie | on a gaming pc |
| 19:56.07 | Smeggie | ? |
| 19:56.33 | mtn_ | Smeggie: do you want to run testing or stable? |
| 19:56.43 | Smeggie | idk |
| 19:56.46 | SuperTramp83 | gaming? |
| 19:56.49 | mtn_ | heh |
| 19:56.57 | Smeggie | just want the latest steam stuff etc |
| 19:56.58 | Smeggie | :D |
| 19:57.10 | SuperTramp83 | windows 7? |
| 19:57.11 | Smeggie | someone advised me to have testing |
| 19:57.20 | Smeggie | since it takes a year for the stable |
| 19:57.23 | mtn_ | Smeggie: you should do some reading about what testing is and how it works. check out the debian wiki |
| 19:57.24 | Smeggie | to get updates or something |
| 19:57.24 | Smeggie | :D |
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| 19:58.02 | vladoski | hi guys, i want to install debian from the netinst |
| 19:58.22 | vladoski | how much GB ill download? |
| 19:58.43 | mtn_ | vladoski: is tells you the size on the download page |
| 19:59.09 | vladoski | mtn_: not the iso file, but what debian will download in the install |
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| 19:59.34 | mtn_ | Smeggie: no pms please. keep it here in the channel |
| 19:59.37 | klys | after upgrading lvm2 I have it fixed |
| 19:59.51 | mtn_ | vladoski: it all depends on what you are installing. not the same for everyone. |
| 20:00.07 | Smeggie | so is it advised to run testing then |
| 20:00.16 | vladoski | mtn_: i just wanna to install debian and xfce on my pc |
| 20:00.20 | Smeggie | since it probably won't break anything critical.. :p |
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| 20:00.36 | vladoski | mtn_: but i haven't got so much time so i want to know how many gb it will download |
| 20:00.42 | mtn_ | vladoski: a gig at a guess. |
| 20:01.09 | mtn_ | Smeggie: if you don't understand testing, don't run it. it probably will break |
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| 20:01.59 | Smeggie | The package has been in "unstable" at least for 2-10 days (depending on the urgency of the upload). |
| 20:01.59 | Smeggie | The package has been built for all the architectures which the present version in testing was built for. |
| 20:01.59 | Smeggie | Installing the package into testing will not make the distribution more uninstallable. |
| 20:01.59 | Smeggie | The package does not introduce new release critical bugs. |
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| 20:02.27 | Smeggie | i understand testing |
| 20:02.29 | vandox | Smeggie: also steam and the games should keep themselves up to date, if the hardware works with stable, stay stable |
| 20:02.39 | Smeggie | hmm I see |
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| 20:02.49 | Smeggie | what about i3? |
| 20:02.55 | Smeggie | nvm |
| 20:02.56 | mtn_ | Smeggie: I don't think you understand it at all, or you wouldn 't need to ask about it |
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| 20:03.08 | Smeggie | well i do get it tho |
| 20:03.17 | Smeggie | just something that appears stable |
| 20:03.41 | vandox | i guess the only ral problem could be the latest hardware |
| 20:03.53 | Smeggie | but hasn't been thoroughly tested |
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| 20:04.14 | Smeggie | i understand the dangers |
| 20:04.17 | Smeggie | just asking |
| 20:04.17 | mtn_ | Smeggie: and it may break, too. in fact, it most certainly will sooner or later |
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| 20:04.29 | Smeggie | ye i get it |
| 20:04.51 | Smeggie | i'll stay stable then |
| 20:05.01 | Smeggie | to be sure :p |
| 20:05.23 | Smeggie | and manually install something if i really really need the latest |
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| 20:06.04 | mtn_ | Smeggie: you really need to read this: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 20:06.31 | Smeggie | thx mtn, i'll read |
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| 20:07.41 | gebjgd | Smeggie, steam package in debian stable and testing hat the same version |
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| 20:07.47 | Krakakanok | oO |
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| 20:07.56 | gebjgd | Smeggie, so that makes nosense to use testing |
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| 20:08.21 | Smeggie | ok i see |
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| 20:08.22 | Smeggie | :p |
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| 20:09.21 | gebjgd | Smeggie, b4 you wanna upgrade to testing just check out the package version to make sure if that worths |
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| 20:09.50 | Smeggie | kk :p |
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| 20:09.59 | kernel-panic | :resize 8 |
| 20:10.04 | kernel-panic | opps |
| 20:10.20 | AngeFede | salue tout le monde |
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| 20:16.47 | g00se | jhutchins: libdvdcss2 installation fixed it |
| 20:17.58 | anddam | at https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#Command_Line the wpa-ssid line is mutually exclusive with wireless-ssid, is that right? |
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| 20:18.20 | anddam | i.e. the #Command_Line section refers to a network without encryption |
| 20:19.10 | anddam | I added just wpa-ssid and wpa-psk but I'm getting "wpa_supplicant daemon failed to start" |
| 20:19.49 | anddam | using "ifup --verbose" shows the command being run but doesn't show where the error is occurring |
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| 20:31.26 | jhutchins | anddam: Logs? /var/log/daemon maybe, dmesg |
| 20:32.02 | jhutchins | anddam: Most commands have a -v switch for verbose, often it can be repeated for more detail (-vvv). |
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| 20:32.25 | jhutchins | anddam: Thinking of the wpa_supplicant command. |
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| 20:45.53 | Polysupport | Hello |
| 20:45.55 | anddam | tried -v -v already |
| 20:46.23 | anddam | jhutchins: surprisingly managed to work it out |
| 20:46.38 | anddam | http://www.skybert.net/linux/setting-up-wireless/ helped starting the wpa_supplicant by han |
| 20:46.40 | anddam | hand |
| 20:46.50 | tums2004 | hello all, I have an lgnas that runs lenny, Im trying to upgrade it, but Im getting a key error. I read up on keys, but Im not sure how to import old keys. So I tried upgrade to wheezy and got hte same thing |
| 20:46.56 | tums2004 | help pleae |
| 20:47.08 | anddam | I moved the wpa-* command to a wpa_supplicant config file and tried that, the psk didn't need the double quote in that conf |
| 20:47.10 | anddam | and that was it |
| 20:47.25 | greycat | tums2004: You have to upgrade one release at a time. You can't jump from lenny directly to wheezy. |
| 20:47.54 | tums2004 | greycat: it wont let me update to squeeze due to a key problem |
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| 20:48.04 | anddam | import the keys |
| 20:48.07 | greycat | Then you need to resolve that. |
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| 20:49.08 | anddam | odd, a reboot made systemd hang on a "a stop job is running vsftpd FTP server" |
| 20:49.33 | anddam | mm took almost 3 minutes |
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| 20:50.32 | anddam | jhutchins: no, now at boot it stuck on raise network interfaces |
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| 20:53.12 | Polysupport | I archive my backups in tar.gz then encrypt it with gpg, is there a way to check if a file exists in the archive without having to decrypt everything ? |
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| 20:53.23 | greycat | no |
| 20:53.41 | greycat | You could, however, store a table of contents of the archive in a separate place. |
| 20:53.49 | itry | Hello! Trying to fix my messed up partition. Booting from a Debian 8 USB stick. Is "Graphical rescue mode" the right choice? |
| 20:54.19 | itry | or maybe just "rescue mode" |
| 20:54.22 | jhutchins | itry: You probably don't need graphical. |
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| 20:54.26 | itry | true |
| 20:54.34 | itry | trying "rescue mode" |
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| 20:54.53 | itry | hmm... this looks like an installer |
| 20:55.01 | itry | i just want a shell so i can fix grub |
| 20:55.14 | g00se | I was going to ask you where you got that ;) |
| 20:55.32 | itry | is there a way to boot from a debian 8 stick? |
| 20:55.47 | itry | i just downloaded debian and dd'ed it onto the stick. |
| 20:55.58 | Polysupport | greycat: Something like tree MY_DIR_TO_BACKUP > backup.list ? |
| 20:56.04 | g00se | That _would_ be an installer then |
| 20:56.09 | anddam | I rebuilt mldonkey-server package in order to enable UPnP support, now on "apt-get upgrade" apt wants to upgrade the package to the same version, I guess it means it want's to "upgrade" to the official package even if it's the same version number |
| 20:56.20 | anddam | can I lock the package? I don't want to lose upnp featre |
| 20:56.22 | anddam | feature |
| 20:56.25 | greycat | I was thinking more along the lines of producing the TOC *right after* the backup, before encrypting it. |
| 20:56.38 | itry | g00se: other distros can be booted from the installation cd. mint and ubuntu for example. |
| 20:57.05 | Polysupport | greycat: Yeah, but how do I list all the files in an archive ? |
| 20:57.14 | greycat | tar tzvf foo.tar.gz |
| 20:57.21 | g00se | You can get a debian-live rescue USB, but personally i use System Rescue on a stick |
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| 20:57.57 | itry | hmm.. bummer. so i have to download something else then. |
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| 20:58.01 | greycat | (or without the "v" if you want less detail) |
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| 20:58.47 | greycat | itry: you should be able to do many rescue-type things from the Debia installer, I think |
| 20:58.57 | SteveLuxe | Hi everyone! I run a small postfix / dovecot mail server, and in order to access some of the RBL lists, I am supposed to be running a local caching resolver, which I'm not at all familiar with. Can anyone recommend anything? Is unbound a good option? |
| 20:59.09 | itry | greycat: how? |
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| 20:59.34 | greycat | itry: well, you had "rescue mode" on the menu, right? When you boot that way, you should get to a prompt or something... |
| 20:59.45 | Polysupport | greycat: Nice ! (even if tree is more beautiful) |
| 20:59.53 | itry | greycat: it looked like it wants to install something |
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| 21:00.11 | itry | greycat: so i "panicked" and turned the machine off. |
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| 21:01.01 | greycat | It still does the prompting for language and keyboard and maybe a couple other things. |
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| 21:01.15 | itry | ok |
| 21:01.22 | itry | it also tells me it cannot use my wifi |
| 21:02.21 | itry | now it wants my ip. what the hell. i just need a shell. |
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| 21:02.44 | g00se | Trouble with using a regular installer is that the shell you'd get would be restricted with few utils |
| 21:03.02 | itry | yes, this will probably not work. |
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| 21:03.23 | itry | so should i download ubuntu or mint or...? |
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| 21:03.47 | Polysupport | Also, is there a way to specify the password to gpg directly via command line ? |
| 21:03.48 | greycat | if the debian installer doesn't have whatever you need, I'd try a dedicated "system rescue" image next |
| 21:03.56 | g00se | itry: What's your architecture? |
| 21:04.02 | itry | a notebook |
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| 21:05.04 | SteveLuxe | Can anyone help me to find, or recommend a local caching DNS resolver? Something that is easy to set up and run? I have no experience with DNS, aside from the DNS that I've set up with my domain registrars. |
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| 21:05.22 | g00se | 64 or 32 bit? |
| 21:05.30 | itry | g00se: no idea |
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| 21:06.32 | monitormon | is there a way to use/install a newer kernel than on stable? |
| 21:07.16 | jhutchins | SteveLuxe: dnsmasq seems popular. |
| 21:07.29 | jhutchins | SteveLuxe: I just us local bind. |
| 21:07.42 | jhutchins | monitormon: Backports. |
| 21:07.46 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 21:07.47 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
| 21:07.52 | SteveLuxe | jutchins: Thank you! Are you familiar with the setup of such a thing? I've never had much experience with DNS resolvers. |
| 21:08.08 | jhutchins | monitormon: Doesn't look like there is one for jessie yet. |
| 21:08.10 | monitormon | sid 4.0.0 good idea? |
| 21:08.15 | monitormon | oh |
| 21:08.21 | monitormon | i need one |
| 21:08.24 | jhutchins | monitormon: No. |
| 21:08.26 | monitormon | hardware |
| 21:08.30 | jhutchins | !ssb |
| 21:08.30 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 21:08.44 | itry | it threw me into a shell after all. just trying "grub-install /dev/sda; update-grub; halt". lets see what comes out of it... |
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| 21:09.51 | g00se | http://www.sysresccd.org/Download (Debian live rescue images seem to have disappeared anyway) |
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| 21:10.11 | itry | the "halt" locked up the machine for some reason. |
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| 21:10.50 | Myrth | hello, during `aptitude upgrade`, /boot got full and can't linux-server installation crashed. i've cleaned old files, but now i can't install or upgrade kernel because it says: "Internal Error: Could not find image (/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-85-generic-pae)" |
| 21:10.51 | Brigo | itry, that is what halt should does, doesn't it? |
| 21:10.57 | Myrth | how can i force it to install the newest kernel? thanks |
| 21:11.10 | g00se | Maybe because no proper init was called |
| 21:11.12 | itry | Brigo: maybe :) |
| 21:11.22 | itry | i have a grb menu back now. |
| 21:11.36 | itry | lets see if the right partition is among all those entries there... |
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| 21:11.52 | monitormon | jhutchins: so I need to add a deb-src for sid to use it on jessie? |
| 21:12.04 | itry | "751 days without check, check forced"... that seems to be an older one. hmm... |
| 21:12.04 | Brigo | Myrth, try to reinstall the vmlinuz-3.2.0-85-generic-pae packaged |
| 21:12.52 | Myrth | Brigo: thanks, i'm not sure i understand what i means... |
| 21:12.58 | Myrth | *it |
| 21:13.07 | Myrth | i've tried apt-get, aptitude, -f, remove |
| 21:13.26 | Myrth | i've tried to specify this name |
| 21:13.30 | Myrth | not only linux-server |
| 21:13.41 | Brigo | Myrth, find the package in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and reinstall it with dpkg |
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| 21:14.11 | itry | yeah, find the right partition! i got my system back :) |
| 21:14.21 | Brigo | Myrth, what upgrade are you doing? from wheezy to jessie? |
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| 21:14.52 | monitormon | jhutchins: on no wait, I have to backport them myself |
| 21:14.58 | monitormon | i'll give it a try |
| 21:15.14 | Myrth | i'm actually on ubuntu, but on their channel didn't get any response at all, so i thought if it's apt package issue, maybe someone here knows.. |
| 21:15.23 | jhutchins | Myrth: Reinstall. |
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| 21:15.34 | jhutchins | Myrth: They may handle kernels differently. |
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| 21:16.03 | jhutchins | Myrth: Debian's apt system includes the reinstall option, check the man pages for Ubuntu's equivalent. |
| 21:16.15 | Myrth | jhutchins: thanks! i'm trying apt-get download <pkg> && dpkg -i <pkg> |
| 21:16.25 | Myrth | it looks like working |
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| 21:16.47 | jhutchins | Myrth: That's the wrong way, but it might work on Ubuntu anyway. |
| 21:16.49 | monitormon | ,kernels |
| 21:16.50 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
| 21:16.57 | jhutchins | Myrth: They really are different OSs. |
| 21:17.33 | Myrth | i see.. my way actually worked |
| 21:17.34 | monitormon | !ssb deb-src sid |
| 21:17.49 | monitormon | hmm |
| 21:17.58 | monitormon | how does that command work? |
| 21:18.00 | SteveLuxe | jhutchins: Is it hard running local bind as a dns caching service? |
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| 21:18.20 | jhutchins | monitormon: /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 21:18.45 | SteveLuxe | Is there quite a bit of setup involved? |
| 21:19.15 | jhutchins | SteveLuxe: bind's a bit complex and overkill for a single system. |
| 21:19.34 | jhutchins | SteveLuxe: I did it because I wanted to learn how to set it up for a network. |
| 21:19.43 | SteveLuxe | Okay, so maybe dnsmasq, just for a local caching service? |
| 21:20.05 | SteveLuxe | I figured that bind would be a bit of overkill, but I'm looking for easy, quick, and dirty. |
| 21:20.30 | jhutchins | SteveLuxe: That's supposed to be what dnsmasq is. I've never used it myself. |
| 21:20.44 | SteveLuxe | Preferably something that won't take 2 days to set up, and leave me holding my head in my hands, because I can't resolve names anymore... lol |
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| 21:21.23 | jhutchins | SteveLuxe: My router serves DNS. |
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| 21:22.10 | newmouse | last I checked Ubuntu comes with dnsmasq already installed by default. that may help. |
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| 21:22.40 | SteveLuxe | jhutchins: The problem with that is that my router is serving DNS as well, but it's pulling from Google's public DNS servers, and for some reason, spamhaus.org has a thing against high-query DNS servers |
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| 21:23.20 | SteveLuxe | They blacklist google, and comcast, and a lot of other public DNS servers |
| 21:23.38 | SteveLuxe | So I can't hit them, and thus, spam comes leaking through |
| 21:24.03 | SteveLuxe | newmouse: I'm already using Debian |
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| 21:24.33 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, you could use he dns servers of your isp, if they are maintained well |
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| 21:24.43 | dutchfish | s/he/the |
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| 21:25.05 | SteveLuxe | dutchfish: my DNS would be through comcast business... They're considered a "high-query" server, and they're blacklisted |
| 21:25.17 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, ah ic |
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| 21:25.29 | SteveLuxe | Yeah... therein lies the problem. |
| 21:26.08 | Smeggie | is there anything tricky i should know when installing i3 on top of xfce? |
| 21:26.10 | radd | does comcast biz have a proprietary modem/nat ? |
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| 21:26.38 | radd | edgerouter i guess |
| 21:26.51 | monitormon | jhutchins: will apt-get build-deb linux-image-amd64 automatically pick the one in the sid repos (i added to sources.list)? |
| 21:27.06 | monitormon | or is it expected to have the .deb from sid and point build-deb to that? |
| 21:27.10 | SteveLuxe | radd: I believe so, yes, although the IP addresses that I have are public, static IPs |
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| 21:27.38 | radd | what about opendns or something? |
| 21:27.39 | monitormon | cause build-dep wants to install linux-support-3.16.0-4 when I do that jhutchins |
| 21:27.47 | monitormon | i am trying to get 4.0 though |
| 21:27.56 | SteveLuxe | high-query... blacklisted, as far as opendns |
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| 21:28.36 | radd | SteveLuxe:have you spoken with spamhouss about this? or figured out why they are blocked ? |
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| 21:29.03 | radd | because "high query" is all? |
| 21:29.22 | SteveLuxe | radd: I read it in their TOS.. They actively block queries from high-traffic DNS servers... pretty much because "high query"... yep |
| 21:29.35 | SteveLuxe | I guess a lot of the RBL servers are the same way |
| 21:30.04 | radd | google returns postfix on first page. is that what you are using? |
| 21:30.16 | SteveLuxe | Yep... postfix |
| 21:30.39 | radd | 'postscreen timeouts' |
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| 21:30.41 | woshty | hrm, did the testing process for testing get optimized somehow, it is pretty annoying .. |
| 21:31.31 | SteveLuxe | I'm not using postscreen.. that's kind of a new greylisting thing... I'm just using postfix's built-in RBL blocking features |
| 21:31.37 | jhutchins | monitormon: I believe you need to specify the kernel version. |
| 21:31.40 | SteveLuxe | well... rbl querying features |
| 21:31.52 | jhutchins | SteveLuxe: I don't unsderstand what spamhaus has to do with DNS. |
| 21:32.15 | dutchfish | jhutchins, maybe he means spf records |
| 21:32.22 | radd | dns is a part of mail just like it is anything else |
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| 21:32.52 | SteveLuxe | jhutchins: if you are using a high-traffic DNS server to query spamhaus's RBL service, they block your query |
| 21:32.58 | SteveLuxe | No, SPF is no problem |
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| 21:33.23 | SteveLuxe | They return no information if you're using a high-traffic DNS server as your resolver |
| 21:33.50 | g00se | \quit |
| 21:34.06 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, i neer ran into thi sproblem myself, serving hundreds of mails for my userbase tho |
| 21:34.11 | dutchfish | never* |
| 21:34.16 | SteveLuxe | So for example, if I'm using 8.8.8.8, or 8.8.4.4, and I dig for one of spamhaus's lists, it returns nothing |
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| 21:34.47 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, nothing means there, not BL'ed |
| 21:35.00 | woshty | what is bringing up my eth0 every few mins with 169.xx and setting default gateway? |
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| 21:35.28 | klys | woshty, check for pump or dhclient |
| 21:35.30 | qman__ | woshty: dhcp client |
| 21:35.30 | SteveLuxe | dutchfish: well not necessarily nothing, but it doesn't forward you on to the correct RBL information, I guess |
| 21:35.33 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, if i am not mistaken |
| 21:35.44 | woshty | oh, and what is that zeitgeist stuff, what does it do? |
| 21:36.33 | monitormon | can anything go wrong when installing a kernel from sid/backports? |
| 21:36.36 | SteveLuxe | I really need to find this info on spamhaus, so that I can prove that I'm not insane... LOL |
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| 21:37.02 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, this is how it works http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/DNSBL%20Usage#366 |
| 21:37.07 | dutchfish | sorry for the offtopic |
| 21:37.15 | radd | does dnsmasq not work to direct just those queries to another resolver |
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| 21:37.36 | dutchfish | radd, only for the first query |
| 21:37.46 | monitormon | can anything go wrong when installing a kernel from sid/backports? jhutchins^ and last question I hope: what to do with the extra firmware I had to install for wifi - will that break when updating the kernel alone? |
| 21:37.50 | SteveLuxe | thank you dutchfish! |
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| 21:37.55 | SteveLuxe | that's what I was talking about |
| 21:38.06 | dutchfish | radd, the second get MX for the same domain will be coming out of its cache |
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| 21:38.10 | woshty | klys, qman__ : did that behaviour change from wheezy? |
| 21:38.10 | radd | sorry, didn't realize |
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| 21:38.51 | klys | woshty, those dhcp clients have been around ever seince squeeze/etch |
| 21:38.53 | qman__ | woshty: that behavior is what a dhcp client does, so if you have one running, that's why |
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| 21:39.19 | woshty | I did not change my interfaces for years, and it started just after the upgrade .. |
| 21:39.21 | dutchfish | radd, the same goes for the RBL query results for that same domain if asked twice |
| 21:39.32 | bratchley | hey random question: what is the init system for kFreeBSD going to be if Debian is moving to systemd? |
| 21:39.38 | qman__ | woshty: if you recently changed from dhcp to static, you may have to tell your dhcp client to release the address, e.g. dhclient -x eth0 |
| 21:39.42 | dutchfish | radd, until TTL expires |
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| 21:40.19 | hassoon | doh |
| 21:40.38 | hassoon | a piece of software that i want to run requires gtkdialog |
| 21:40.44 | hassoon | but i found that https://packages.debian.org/sid/gtkdialog |
| 21:40.48 | hassoon | i use jessie |
| 21:41.00 | woshty | qman__: I did not, I am running network manager for wlan0 and had eth0 configured for dhcp in interfaces, apparently never caused any problems, but it does now. setting 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1002 0 0 eth0 caused my issues |
| 21:41.24 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, if your have a real big userbase and lots of mails you are better of walking the (hard) bind9 route |
| 21:41.29 | woshty | ^^route |
| 21:41.29 | SteveLuxe | dutchfish: does what I'm asking make any sense? |
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| 21:41.47 | SteveLuxe | no... I'm running just a small mail server with a mailing list for an independent record label |
| 21:42.02 | SteveLuxe | one of my users is getting crushed with spam |
| 21:42.09 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, somewhat, because i never ran into that problem, but i always use my own (minimal 2) bind9 setups |
| 21:42.13 | SteveLuxe | despite my best efforts to prevent it |
| 21:42.27 | qman__ | woshty: if the dhcp clue t doesn't get an answer, t assigns that address, this is called apipa, but it should not be assigning a default gateway in that case |
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| 21:43.28 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, well, think of this, they ar eoften plagued by d-dos attempts, so i am shocked thet rate limit you |
| 21:43.34 | woshty | qman__: yes, but it seems to do that here |
| 21:43.51 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, correction, not shocked |
| 21:44.02 | woshty | .. and again, it started after a suspendtoram .. I will take the windows road to fix things .. |
| 21:44.16 | qman__ | woshty: if you expected to get an IP from a dhcp server, it may be down or you may have a driver issue, if the client is assigning a gateway to an apipa address, it may be a bug |
| 21:44.22 | SteveLuxe | yeah... they try to keep people from using high-traffic DNS servers from DDOSing them with queries |
| 21:44.36 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, and yes, a running your own dns servers is the best way (caching) |
| 21:44.59 | SteveLuxe | dutchfish: I was afraid of that... |
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| 21:45.26 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, homeusers never run into that problem, even if mail addicts |
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| 21:45.45 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, anything above that, needs carefull planning |
| 21:46.24 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, ones done the steap learning curve, bind9 isnt that hard anymore |
| 21:46.26 | SteveLuxe | I mean, there's dnsmasq... But even with the debian tutorials on setting it up as a local caching service, it's still a big learning curve |
| 21:46.57 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, if your userbase is big, dnsmasque will suffer |
| 21:47.20 | SteveLuxe | I mean, it was a huge learning curve just getting postfix, dovecot, amavis, spamassassin, and all that jazz working |
| 21:47.27 | radd | I have had to troubleshoot postfix in the past. I couldn't imagine having to admin a large one |
| 21:47.30 | SteveLuxe | I'm not much of a mail server guru |
| 21:47.51 | SteveLuxe | It's just a small server that hosts a mailing list, with an active userbase of about 6 people. |
| 21:47.53 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, yes, but bind9 is easier then all that, there are some nice books out there worthwhile |
| 21:48.29 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, dugh, nly 6 users? i cant imagine that would trigger there limit |
| 21:49.09 | SteveLuxe | dutchfish: it's because I'm not using my own dns server... they block the high traffic ones, to keep from being DDOSed with huge numbers of queries |
| 21:49.34 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, sure, but how on earth can 6 users do that? |
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| 21:49.37 | woshty | qman__: I will see if I get that same problem after another suspend, was my first with this computer and jessie. Thanks. Do you know about zeitgeist hub as well by any chance? |
| 21:49.41 | SteveLuxe | So the solution is to either A: deal with the spam, or B: set up my own local caching server... |
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| 21:49.54 | radd | i see some intersting python scripts on greylisting. but that is probably down the rabbit hole as well. lol |
| 21:49.57 | qman__ | Never heard of it |
| 21:50.15 | SteveLuxe | no, it's not 6 people, it's everyone that has access to the public DNS servers that query spamhaus |
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| 21:50.43 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, check your postfix logs first, is your server setup right? have you done the test for being 'open'? etc etc |
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| 21:51.03 | SteveLuxe | yeah dutchfish, it's set up properly, no open relays, |
| 21:51.13 | karlpinc | SteveLuxe: I use sqlgrey with postfix and postgresql. YMMV. |
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| 21:51.17 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, fair enough |
| 21:51.30 | SteveLuxe | it's rejecting stuff like IP addresses that are dynamic |
| 21:51.46 | SteveLuxe | and doing SPF, dkim, and all that kind of resolution |
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| 21:52.11 | SteveLuxe | It's just that the RBLs that I have listed SHOULD be blocking some of the emails that are getting through, however they're not |
| 21:53.03 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, also check the term so usage and if you are within the 'free' use |
| 21:53.08 | dutchfish | (terms) |
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| 21:53.21 | kraken | hi |
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| 21:54.02 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, RVL is far from perfect, its a tool along the other tools |
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| 21:54.10 | dutchfish | s/RVL?RBL |
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| 21:54.30 | SteveLuxe | I'm well within their terms of free usage |
| 21:54.42 | SteveLuxe | non-commercial, low query, etc. |
| 21:54.56 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, then maybe ask them |
| 21:55.14 | dutchfish | (after checking all your logs) |
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| 21:55.33 | SteveLuxe | Oh trust me, I've been checking my logs... watching them like a hawk |
| 21:55.46 | dutchfish | ok |
| 21:56.23 | SteveLuxe | Should it show that something has actively been blocked? Or just a connect with an IP and a disconnect? |
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| 21:56.46 | SteveLuxe | I'm trying to just block the crap before it gets queued, and amavis / spamassassin has to classify it |
| 21:56.48 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, normally your hosting company does that for you (the dns server part), if you did it on your own iron, you need at least a caching server |
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| 21:57.52 | SteveLuxe | as far as Comcast's DNS servers, I believe they're blocked as well, dutchfish |
| 21:58.07 | SteveLuxe | Last time I did a test to check, it showed as blocked |
| 21:58.24 | SteveLuxe | I wish I could find the page on spamhaus where they had their info on DNS queries |
| 21:58.34 | SteveLuxe | They've since restructured their page |
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| 21:58.49 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, yes, you said that already. I cant judge about that, rem an ISP is not a hosting company |
| 21:59.11 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, altho some do both |
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| 21:59.25 | SteveLuxe | I found it dutchfish: |
| 21:59.30 | SteveLuxe | Check what DNS resolvers you are using: If you are using a free "open DNS resolver" service such as the Google Public DNS or large cloud/outsourced public DNS servers, such as Level3's or Verizon's, to resolve your DNSBL requests, in most cases you will receive a "not listed" (NXDOMAIN) reply from Spamhaus' public DNSBL servers. |
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| 22:00.26 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, ah ic |
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| 22:00.35 | SteveLuxe | Which is the root of my problem |
| 22:00.47 | SteveLuxe | So in which case, I need a caching resolver or something to remedy this, I guess? |
| 22:01.21 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, i gues so, that is how i did my setup, in fac i use more then one dns server |
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| 22:01.34 | petn-randall | SteveLuxe: Just install bind9 and let that do the resolving. That's how I did it in our datacentre. |
| 22:01.45 | dutchfish | petn-randall, yup |
| 22:02.04 | SteveLuxe | does bind9 require anything special as far as setting up? Do I have to do anything to get it resolving? |
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| 22:02.28 | SteveLuxe | I guess I have to use 127.0.0.1 as a nameserver in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:02.31 | SteveLuxe | ? |
| 22:02.37 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, nope, unless you want it to be also an authoritive server for your domains |
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| 22:02.51 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, then you need at least 2 of them |
| 22:03.08 | SteveLuxe | Right... so that bind9 can do the caching... |
| 22:03.17 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, yes |
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| 22:03.38 | petn-randall | SteveLuxe: yes, just change /etc/resolv.conf. Also make sure that port 53 isn't accessible from the internet, otherwise people can abuse your DNs server for amplification attacks. |
| 22:03.41 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, and any other well setup dns server |
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| 22:04.06 | dutchfish | petn-randall, good tip |
| 22:04.12 | SteveLuxe | Ahh ok... Port 53 will definitely be closed. |
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| 22:04.37 | SteveLuxe | I only have the necessary ports open, and everything else is accessible by VPN / local network only |
| 22:04.50 | SteveLuxe | everything else is closed off |
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| 22:05.42 | SteveLuxe | so bind9 is really as simple as apt-get install bind9, and then putting 127.0.0.1 as my first nameserver in resolv.conf? |
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| 22:06.33 | SteveLuxe | thanks for the tip petn-randall! |
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| 22:06.49 | petn-randall | SteveLuxe: yeah, pretty much. You're welcome! |
| 22:06.56 | SteveLuxe | Yeah I'll definitely make sure that it's closed up, so there's no amplification attacks, etc.. |
| 22:07.09 | SteveLuxe | wow... okay well hopefully this is going to be easier than I thought |
| 22:07.19 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, also read this http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/DNS-HOWTO-3.html (its old) |
| 22:07.30 | petn-randall | SteveLuxe: You only have to maintain the root servers file that comes with bind9. But those change like every decade, so it's pretty low maintenance. |
| 22:07.44 | petn-randall | SteveLuxe: Gotta go, have fun! |
| 22:07.52 | SteveLuxe | Thanks petn-randall! |
| 22:08.03 | SteveLuxe | Dutchfish: giving that a look-see now |
| 22:08.11 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, have fun |
| 22:08.28 | SteveLuxe | thanks dutchfish! Hopefully this will be easy |
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| 22:08.55 | socomm | Anyone know if a technology that can provide Common Address Resolution for linux? |
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| 22:09.03 | socomm | Active/Active with shared IP. |
| 22:09.13 | socomm | Kinda like VRRP. |
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| 22:11.13 | dutchfish | socomm, i use CARP myself, bt this might be usefull http://louwrentius.com/configuring-attacking-and-securing-vrrp-on-linux.html |
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| 22:12.57 | dutchfish | socomm, you want to setup a failover? |
| 22:13.57 | socomm | dutchfish: Not necessarily failover, perse. I want active active load balancing. Kinda like VRRP where you can have weighed interfaces. |
| 22:14.06 | socomm | Or was that GLBP? |
| 22:14.51 | dutchfish | socomm, carp is use dmostly for failover, load balancing i do not know much about |
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| 22:15.16 | socomm | dutchfish: Ah, okay. |
| 22:15.46 | dutchfish | socomm, also look at HAproxy |
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| 22:16.28 | dutchfish | socomm, i walked the cold standby route myself for that |
| 22:16.58 | dutchfish | socomm, along with CARP |
| 22:17.33 | twiggz | Can anyone recommend a decent cli epub reader? |
| 22:18.18 | socomm | dutchfish: Thank you. |
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| 22:19.33 | SteveLuxe | oh wow... Thank you dutchfish! I installed bind9, and set 127.0.0.1, and did a dig, and it actually pulled the dns record, and showed me the results and the server, which was 127.0.0.1#53 |
| 22:19.34 | jhutchins | twiggz: Interesting concept. |
| 22:20.16 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, there you go |
| 22:20.21 | dutchfish | twiggz, https://github.com/rupa/epub |
| 22:20.28 | twiggz | i guess? |
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| 22:21.03 | dutchfish | twiggz, its a saml python console aplication to read epub on the console |
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| 22:21.08 | dutchfish | small* |
| 22:21.11 | SteveLuxe | I still can't get a result from spamhaus, though... derp |
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| 22:21.53 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, rem, still empty result means, not blacklisted |
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| 22:22.12 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, dig will tell you |
| 22:22.45 | SteveLuxe | dig told me that it used another dns server for spamhaus, not 127.0.0.1 |
| 22:23.10 | SteveLuxe | oh snap... |
| 22:23.10 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, dig @127.0.0.1 foo |
| 22:23.14 | SteveLuxe | there we go |
| 22:23.21 | SteveLuxe | that time I got a result. |
| 22:24.04 | SteveLuxe | Yeah... Looks like it's working now... |
| 22:24.16 | dutchfish | SteveLuxe, have fun, i am out now |
| 22:24.20 | dutchfish | bb |
| 22:24.20 | SteveLuxe | thanks again dutchfish! You were a big help! |
| 22:24.26 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 22:29.26 | twiggz | Thanks, dutchfish |
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