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| 00:39.29 | klys | multipathd> add path /dev/sdc5 |
| 00:39.30 | klys | fail |
| 00:39.46 | klys | idk if that's a real path according to multipathd or not |
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| 01:10.54 | Kre10s | I have a question regarding upgrading and virtual hosts. I just moved to strato.de. They gave me a debian 7 Vhost... and I noticed that their apt lines are funny "deb ftp://ftp.stratoserver.net/pub/linux/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free" ... Why do they do that? I should still be able to upgrade to stable (jessie) right? |
| 01:12.38 | bhishma | what type of vhost you have? |
| 01:13.00 | bhishma | Xen, OpenVZ, LXC, KVM, ... ? |
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| 01:16.11 | Kre10s | hmmm. I don't even know |
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| 01:19.53 | Kre10s | Is there a problem upgrading depending on the type? |
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| 01:22.31 | bhishma | yeah, KVM works alright, but OpenVZ may not |
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| 01:26.39 | Kre10s | Can I identify the type from within the install? |
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| 01:29.59 | bhishma | Again, it depends. http://unix.stackexchange.com/q/89714/ |
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| 01:36.19 | Kre10s | hmm. /dev/mem: No such file or directory dmidecode doesn't give useful info |
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| 02:14.07 | soixante | HI,,,,, is debian installing grub by default these days? |
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| 02:19.39 | klys | soixante, I think so |
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| 02:28.49 | klys | dmsetup create foo -u `/lib/udev/scsi_id --whitelisted --replace-whitespace --device=/dev/sdc5`; |
| 02:28.52 | klys | it's just hanging |
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| 02:31.25 | RoyK | dmsetup? |
| 02:32.04 | RoyK | fakeraid? |
| 02:32.07 | klys | yeah, that's how I add stuff to /dev/mapper, isn't it? |
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| 02:32.41 | RoyK | don't use it |
| 02:32.47 | RoyK | use mdraid instad |
| 02:32.59 | klys | I have lvm2 running though |
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| 02:41.42 | klys | it's blocking on a read(0, ...); call |
| 02:42.02 | LordFly | git started seg faulting, in libnettle, when using https repositories, is this a known issue? Using testing. |
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| 02:46.16 | transhuman | hi I am in need of being able to emulate a floppy disk (actually 3 of them ) in linux. I need it to actually look like there is a real floppy drive in the system...any way to do this? |
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| 02:46.40 | aedinius | transhuman: Can't just mount the image? |
| 02:46.54 | aedinius | transhuman: or you need to actually emulate fd0, fd1, etc |
| 02:47.10 | transhuman | no this is an old program looks like it has to appear like a real floppy ...yes fd0 fd1 and fd2 |
| 02:47.20 | aedinius | Spin up a VM and do it there? |
| 02:47.48 | transhuman | only thing i could think of was spinning a vm...wanted to save a lot of work on building a guest system that is up to specs |
| 02:48.12 | aedinius | Yeah, I don't know of emulating hardware like that outside of a VM |
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| 03:05.49 | bsdtux | After a fresh install of Debian 8.1 I attempted to change my /etc/apt/sources.list file to use testing however after making the change and typing in apt-get update && apt-get upgrade it says there is 0 updates. Here is what my source.list looks like. Can someone help me out? http://dpaste.com/3ZAA5KA |
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| 03:07.09 | Neffi | bsdtux: dist-upgrade, not upgrade |
| 03:07.43 | Neffi | bsdtux: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90389/how-to-upgrade-debian-stable-wheezy-to-testing-jessie |
| 03:07.50 | bsdtux | neffi I get the same result |
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| 03:08.34 | Neffi | I'm new to Debian but this is something I've done on two installs and it ought to work. Are you sure you changed sources.list correctly? |
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| 03:09.09 | bsdtux | pretty sure. if you get a second check out the dpaste link. that shows my sources.list file |
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| 03:10.08 | bsdtux | ok I think I figured it out. |
| 03:10.23 | bsdtux | Looks like those are security updates and not a mirror. |
| 03:11.27 | Neffi | well, good luck. I'm off to migrate my own machine to debian testing ;) |
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| 04:20.04 | bynarie | why would appending sudo in front a command, for example, sudo android, not work.. but typing android works fine |
| 04:20.28 | bynarie | i have a binary called android in my PATH, when i type android it execs fine, but sudo android i get not found |
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| 04:21.35 | bynarie | must be replacing my path or something |
| 04:21.36 | bynarie | ? |
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| 04:30.51 | Utils | Does anyone have any experience with WebRTC using SimpleWebRTC, signalmaster and rfc5766-turn-server (althoguh same results achieved with resiprocate-turn-server) |
| 04:31.02 | Utils | It's not really a Debian concern but I have no idea where else to go. |
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| 04:32.03 | Utils | My problem is that I can connect to some peers but not others. Sometimes a peer I cannot connect to can connect to a peer that I can also connect to (so a mutual peer) but this still doesn't allow me to connect to the other peer. My ISP has no P2P restrictions. |
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| 04:45.22 | foul_owl | Hi folks, getting "modprobe: ERROR: could not insert 'isofs': Unknown symbol in module, or unknown parameter" trying to do "modprobe isofs" (unable to mount an iso) |
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| 04:49.16 | klys | foul_owl, modprobe iso9660? |
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| 04:52.47 | zzing | Theoretically, if I have wheezy (7.3) installed in a kvm virtualization guest, is there any reason why an upgrade to jessie might not work? |
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| 04:53.51 | klys | does your kernel package say kvm in it? |
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| 04:55.23 | zzing | klys, I don't think so |
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| 04:55.47 | zzing | linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 is installed, so I think it is stock |
| 04:56.05 | klys | zzing, the kernel package might be replaced. just make sure it's still configured for use as kvm guest. other than that, no reason. |
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| 04:57.40 | zzing | klys, how would I check if it is configured that way? |
| 04:57.55 | klys | zzing, check /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
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| 04:58.59 | zzing | I don't see anything specific for kvm that shouts out |
| 04:59.14 | klys | ok, you might not need to change anything then. |
| 04:59.55 | zzing | ok, now if this is at 7.3, should I get it up to 7.8 first? |
| 05:00.12 | klys | tht might help with your configs |
| 05:01.10 | zzing | okay, the upgrade will also do an image so if things break I would know pretty quickly |
| 05:02.28 | zzing | thank you |
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| 05:04.40 | klys | I haven't upgraded to stretch before, but with the possible exception of installing and setting up systemd, I would suspect the upgrade is pretty smooth. |
| 05:05.03 | zzing | stretch? |
| 05:05.08 | klys | testing |
| 05:05.22 | zzing | okay, I like stable :P |
| 05:05.40 | zzing | I can use the kvm terminal to do an equivalent to local install |
| 05:05.42 | zzing | upgrade* |
| 05:05.56 | klys | yes |
| 05:05.59 | gebjgd | klys, because now the difference between stable and testing is small |
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| 05:10.22 | klys | well, if I start udev on a 32-bit debian install and then chroot to a 64-bit debian install, can I start /etc/init.d/udev start, or should I shut down the other one first? |
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| 05:12.26 | klys | because " * udevd is running" |
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| 06:14.05 | foul_owl | What's the username and pw for the live cd? it dropped me to a text mode login prompt. |
| 06:16.02 | foul_owl | Debian 8 |
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| 06:16.53 | rozie | foul_owl: where do you download it from? |
| 06:16.53 | aicra | uh |
| 06:16.57 | aicra | 8? |
| 06:17.01 | aicra | WTF |
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| 06:17.13 | aicra | jessie? |
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| 06:17.36 | aicra | why did you call it 8 |
| 06:18.11 | aicra | make me so old... having used 2.2 |
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| 06:18.15 | aicra | which ... we never called 2.2 |
| 06:18.35 | aicra | root |
| 06:18.37 | aicra | password |
| 06:18.45 | aicra | not as root |
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| 06:19.24 | aicra | now... off to have some mashed 2.2s |
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| 06:19.52 | foul_owl | I called it 8 because it has the number "8" in the filename -_- |
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| 06:20.13 | maziar | i want to install nginx from source on debian jessie but i get this error about perl "Makefile out-of-date with respect to /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20/Config.pm /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20/CORE/config.h " how can i fix it |
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| 06:20.25 | maziar | i want to install nginx from source on debian jessie but i get this error about perl "Makefile out-of-date with respect to ...." how can i fix it |
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| 06:20.46 | anddam | foul_owl: don't bother, he was rambling |
| 06:20.47 | foul_owl | I grabbed it from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/8.1.0-live+nonfree/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
| 06:20.59 | foul_owl | Since I need the firmware in order for my wifi card to work |
| 06:21.36 | foul_owl | I grabbed "standard" and both normal boot and failsafe dropped me to a text mode login |
| 06:21.58 | maziar | i want to install nginx from source on debian jessie but i get this error about perl "Makefile out-of-date with respect to ...." how can i fix it |
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| 06:23.06 | foul_owl | I tried all permuations of username=root/live password=root/live/<blank> |
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| 06:26.13 | maziar | i want to install nginx from source on debian jessie but i get this error about perl "Makefile out-of-date with respect to ...." how can i fix it |
| 06:27.10 | anddam | foul_owl: have you looked on web? google suggests user/live |
| 06:27.31 | foul_owl | Google suggested live/live or root/live |
| 06:27.35 | foul_owl | user/live worked! Thanks!! |
| 06:28.43 | maziar | help me |
| 06:29.36 | klys | maziar, what kernel is nginx even for |
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| 06:29.57 | maziar | klys, what? |
| 06:30.13 | klys | maziar, where did you download nginx from? |
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| 06:30.40 | maziar | nginx.org |
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| 06:32.51 | klys | ,versions nvidia-glx-src |
| 06:32.52 | judd | No package named 'nvidia-glx-src' was found in amd64. |
| 06:33.15 | klys | it's prolly in squeeze or lenny |
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| 06:33.47 | themill | wonders who klys is trying to help |
| 06:34.03 | klys | themill, what do you know about nginx? |
| 06:34.18 | themill | it's a web server not a video driver... |
| 06:34.26 | klys | oh, thx. |
| 06:34.45 | maziar | i want to install nginx from source on debian jessie but i get this error about perl "Makefile out-of-date with respect to ...." how can i fix it |
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| 06:36.22 | klys | http://paste.debian.net/222516/ |
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| 06:38.13 | themill | maziar: you might do better to ask #nginx about their build system. Alternatively, wait until there's updated debian packages -- it's likely to end up in jessie-backports some time soon. |
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| 06:39.56 | klys | themill, would you know how to create entries in /dev/mapper |
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| 06:42.30 | maziar | themill, its about build nginx on debian jessi |
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| 07:32.56 | superlinux-hp | hi. what antivirus would you recommend me to put in my linux server for my windows clients? |
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| 07:34.12 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, for what? |
| 07:34.17 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, samba share? |
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| 07:35.40 | superlinux-hp | I made my clients sync their files on the server so when I restore from back up, I don't want them be hit with a virus. |
| 07:36.11 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, then you need antivirus on your windows |
| 07:36.12 | superlinux-hp | gosh man how I want to get them use linux or mac |
| 07:36.37 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, then buy a gun put on their head to let them use linux |
| 07:36.45 | superlinux-hp | gebjgd, why not I add one too on the server? there is no problem doing that |
| 07:37.01 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, yes you can |
| 07:37.22 | superlinux-hp | does clamAV suffice |
| 07:37.24 | superlinux-hp | ? |
| 07:37.26 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, there are lots of Linux products for antivirus |
| 07:37.31 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, yes |
| 07:37.52 | superlinux-hp | can I lean on it? |
| 07:38.08 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, i am not so familiar with clamAV |
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| 07:38.30 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, just read the manual of clamAV |
| 07:38.41 | superlinux-hp | ok |
| 07:38.46 | gebjgd | superlinux-hp, or buy a Linux product to do that |
| 07:38.55 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, it depends on your usecase, for moderate to light aplication sure, if you want heuristics and prevent modern apt's, no |
| 07:39.33 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, also look at hardening |
| 07:39.47 | klys | are there qemu packages for debian gnu/linux/xen-4.5 ? |
| 07:40.18 | superlinux-hp | I have a Xeon CPU (6 physical cores) and SAS hard disks |
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| 07:40.37 | superlinux-hp | 10,000 rpm disks |
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| 07:42.21 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, apart from a filescan that greatly benifits from fast disks, the resources are not that important |
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| 07:43.25 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, it depends on your usecase |
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| 07:44.17 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, i use a commercial AV solution along with clamav on separate machines |
| 07:44.23 | superlinux-hp | that's clear.. but I have like 16 employees who I made them sync their files every 5 minutes so I won't loose a file |
| 07:44.57 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, but AV solutions are just part of the whole process to secure your envirenment |
| 07:44.58 | superlinux-hp | I used WinSCP scripting with windows scheduling of tasks |
| 07:45.11 | superlinux-hp | yes it's |
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| 07:46.33 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, well, start with clamav, along with the learning you can build up stronger protection with rootkit detection, hardening your system, encryption etc etc |
| 07:46.46 | superlinux-hp | what I did on windows 8.1 is I work like the 'sudo' method of linux on windows.. "run as administrator" always.. you put antivirus, but it's almost meaningless if used with "run as admin" |
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| 07:47.21 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, well i use pstools over ssh |
| 07:47.36 | superlinux-hp | what is pstools? sync? |
| 07:47.38 | dutchfish | (sorry for the offtopic) |
| 07:47.53 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, win powershell |
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| 07:48.02 | superlinux-hp | aha ok. cool |
| 07:49.27 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, delve into the AV solution that support Linux, some have nice solutions for protecting incoming mail, advanced firewalling and proxy hardening |
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| 07:50.45 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, most of my effords go into protecting the other OSes btw ;) |
| 07:51.01 | superlinux-hp | in Beirut,Lebanon where I work, people praise kespersky antivirus allot |
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| 07:51.14 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, i use that as well |
| 07:51.29 | superlinux-hp | I am downloading it as we are chatting |
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| 07:52.02 | dutchfish | superlinux-hp, spoiler, it can be at times a pita to setup, but ones done, its reliable |
| 07:52.27 | superlinux-hp | aha. I will do my best to get it run |
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| 08:10.05 | metallicrwr_ | hi I am running Debian Hurd on Qemu and it freezes at "Setting up translators". Any help? |
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| 08:58.18 | orliesaurus | any clue how I can update the CLI "watch" to the latest release with apt ? |
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| 08:58.49 | orliesaurus | 3.3.3 which is on the sys has a bug that sets the maximum amount of -n seconds to only 4000 |
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| 09:05.16 | blackjack | guys. how do i fix apt-get |
| 09:05.22 | blackjack | in case it gets f*cked up |
| 09:05.55 | blackjack | http://paste.debian.net/222915/ |
| 09:06.07 | blackjack | it seems it has problem over there. hmm |
| 09:06.11 | jelly | orliesaurus: are you talking about /usr/bin/watch tool from procps package? Which debian release are you using? |
| 09:06.35 | orliesaurus | yes correct |
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| 09:06.55 | orliesaurus | 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 x86_64 |
| 09:07.05 | jelly | orliesaurus: lsb_release -sc ? |
| 09:07.23 | orliesaurus | wheezy |
| 09:07.32 | orliesaurus | oh release |
| 09:07.33 | orliesaurus | sorry |
| 09:07.36 | blackjack | hello |
| 09:07.39 | orliesaurus | been up all night :( |
| 09:07.54 | jelly | orliesaurus: seems to have been fixed for debian 8 (jessie): Every 86400.0s: date Sat Jun 13 09:07:23 2015 |
| 09:08.09 | orliesaurus | that's the one |
| 09:08.18 | orliesaurus | version 3.3.9 or something |
| 09:08.23 | orliesaurus | 3.9 |
| 09:08.27 | orliesaurus | my ver is 3.3 |
| 09:08.28 | jelly | ,v procps |
| 09:08.30 | judd | Package: procps on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:3.2.8-9squeeze1; wheezy: 1:3.3.3-3; stretch: 2:3.3.9-9; sid: 2:3.3.9-9; jessie: 2:3.3.9-9 |
| 09:08.41 | jelly | 3.3.9 in jessie, yes |
| 09:08.43 | orliesaurus | 3.3.9 yes |
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| 09:09.00 | orliesaurus | anyway to get that one with apt? or should i manulaly install? |
| 09:09.09 | orliesaurus | manually* |
| 09:09.18 | blackjack | hello |
| 09:09.33 | jelly | orliesaurus: if you can't upgrade the whole OS, backport procps. Do NOT use the package from jessie on your older system. |
| 09:09.48 | jelly | dpkg, tell orliesaurus about simple sid backport |
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| 09:10.35 | orliesaurus | got it, thanks jelly very helpful :) |
| 09:11.07 | jelly | Every 4294.0s: # heh, looks like a 32-bit unsigned value in microseconds |
| 09:11.17 | orliesaurus | yup |
| 09:11.33 | orliesaurus | it fkd me right up |
| 09:11.40 | orliesaurus | my fault for not using crontab |
| 09:11.44 | orliesaurus | and being lazy |
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| 09:12.31 | jelly | watch is for watching, not doing! |
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| 09:12.51 | orliesaurus | i thought it was to "watch me do stuff" |
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| 09:12.57 | rjoensen_ | http://pastebin.com/svzaiP5G |
| 09:13.02 | rjoensen_ | any idea how i can fix this? |
| 09:13.02 | orliesaurus | ;-p |
| 09:13.37 | rjoensen_ | i am literally unable to do anything with apt due to this. |
| 09:14.47 | bhishma | rjoensen_: which release are u running? Jessie, wheezy, .. ? |
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| 09:15.07 | rjoensen_ | bhishma: |
| 09:15.08 | rjoensen_ | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 09:15.09 | rjoensen_ | 8.0 |
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| 09:17.08 | bhishma | like it says, u've tried apt-get install -f ? |
| 09:17.13 | rjoensen_ | yes |
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| 09:17.29 | rjoensen_ | E: Unable to correct dependencies |
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| 09:18.35 | bhishma | Hmm, looks like you've multiarch. libc6-i686:i386. R u on 64-bit or 32-bit machine? |
| 09:18.45 | dutchfish | rjoensen_, jessie is now at 8.1, have you thoroughly checked /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
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| 09:19.03 | haarp | im running wheezy, have security.debian.org in my apt sources, just synced packages, et im not getting the php update mentioned here: https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3280 - whats wrong? |
| 09:19.03 | rjoensen_ | bhishma: i do have multiarch, and i am on a 64bit |
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| 09:19.34 | rjoensen_ | dutchfish: no i havent |
| 09:19.37 | rjoensen_ | just a second |
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| 09:20.02 | itry | Which file should I edit to reorder the entries in my grub menu? |
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| 09:20.58 | bhishma | rjoensen_: could be that you've forgotten to run apt-get update ? |
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| 09:21.12 | rjoensen_ | bhishma: i ran that beforehand |
| 09:22.03 | rjoensen_ | dutchfish: well ain't that interesting. |
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| 09:22.14 | rjoensen_ | my sources.list still said "wheezy" |
| 09:22.24 | rjoensen_ | so i changed that with jessie, ran an update and now upgrade and its doing something |
| 09:22.27 | rjoensen_ | so we'll see. |
| 09:22.28 | dutchfish | rjoensen_, stable is now jessie 8.1 |
| 09:22.35 | rjoensen_ | dutchfish: nods |
| 09:22.39 | svetlana | itry: /etc/default/grub |
| 09:22.52 | rjoensen_ | i just wasn't aware that i had upgraded to jessie (because i didn't do a dist-upgradE) |
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| 09:22.58 | rjoensen_ | i tend to be far behind in that |
| 09:23.23 | bhishma | rjoensen_: yup, wheezy has libc 2.13 jessie has 2.19. That could be it |
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| 09:23.43 | dutchfish | rjoensen_, you proabably want something like `aptitude update && update safe-upgrade' after that `aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade` |
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| 09:24.18 | dutchfish | (after pointing sources to jessie) |
| 09:24.19 | itry | svetlana: hmm.. that cannot be. /etc/ is on a partition that is still encrypted when the boot menu is shown. |
| 09:24.25 | rjoensen_ | dutchfish: i will do (just for safety) |
| 09:24.33 | rjoensen_ | bhishma: apparently it is it |
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| 09:25.00 | rjoensen_ | cheers guys |
| 09:25.01 | svetlana | itry: first line in the file reads: # If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update |
| 09:25.01 | svetlana | # /boot/grub/grub.cfg. |
| 09:25.04 | rjoensen_ | appreciate the help |
| 09:25.42 | haarp | uh oh. why does my wheezy claim to packages are already the newest version when security.debian.org (which is in sources.list and synced) has a newer version?? |
| 09:25.57 | itry | svetlana: so the way to go is "vim /boot/grub/grub.cfg" ? |
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| 09:26.04 | dutchfish | haarp, your mirror is prolly not up 2 date |
| 09:26.15 | dutchfish | (yet) |
| 09:26.30 | svetlana | itry: no, don't touch that one :) first 3 lines in it are: # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE |
| 09:26.30 | svetlana | # |
| 09:26.30 | svetlana | # It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates |
| 09:26.30 | svetlana | # from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub |
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| 09:26.57 | blackjack | can somoeon help me?? |
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| 09:27.04 | blackjack | http://paste.debian.net/222915/ |
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| 09:27.10 | blackjack | can use apt-get :( |
| 09:27.14 | blackjack | i wonder what happened. |
| 09:27.27 | haarp | dutchfish: i'm using security.debian.org directly, no mirror. manually having a look at Packages.bz2 shows that it IS up-to-date |
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| 09:27.55 | bhishma | blackjack: apt-get install apt-transport-https |
| 09:27.55 | itry | svetlana: hmm.. ok. why is it that complicated? why not just have /boot/grub/grub.cfg and thats it? |
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| 09:28.06 | dutchfish | haarp, sure, of couse, but i ment your mirrored repository, not the security one |
| 09:28.06 | blackjack | bhishma, apt-get is not working |
| 09:28.10 | blackjack | how could i do that? |
| 09:28.11 | svetlana | blackjack: is package apt-transport-https installed? |
| 09:28.15 | blackjack | yes |
| 09:28.18 | blackjack | yes it was |
| 09:28.29 | dutchfish | haarp, sometimes, dependecies work that way |
| 09:28.30 | svetlana | and is it now? |
| 09:28.32 | haarp | dutchfish: ah, ok. well, i just synced that, several times in fact, no difference |
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| 09:28.55 | svetlana | blackjack: (and could you pastebin your sources.list please) |
| 09:28.59 | bhishma | blackjack: comment out any repos starting with https:// then apt-get update && apt-get install apt-transport-https |
| 09:29.07 | dutchfish | haarp, if possible you could try a different mirror for main |
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| 09:29.21 | bhishma | blackjack: .. then uncomment https:// and should be alright |
| 09:29.23 | itry | svetlana: /etc/default/grub does not contain the menu entries. i think i will go against the comments in those files and just edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
| 09:29.27 | svetlana | itry: this is to let it use templates (in addition to the user-specified file) |
| 09:29.30 | dutchfish | haarp, or wait until your mirror caught up |
| 09:29.33 | svetlana | itry: what are you trying to do? |
| 09:29.34 | blackjack | bhishma, there is no https:// all http:// |
| 09:29.44 | svetlana | itry: your changes won't get saved, you shouldn't edit that file |
| 09:29.54 | bhishma | blackjack: check all files in /etc/apt/sources.d/ as well |
| 09:30.08 | itry | svetlana: i want to reorder the entries in the boot menu |
| 09:30.09 | blackjack | ok. brb |
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| 09:30.25 | dutchfish | haarp, or manaally download that fix over ftp and deploy it manuallly if it is a graving issue |
| 09:30.30 | dutchfish | manually* |
| 09:30.51 | haarp | dutchfish: id rather figure out why it isnt installing security updates i nthe first place ;) |
| 09:31.12 | blackjack | bhishma, also the security.sources.list ? |
| 09:31.16 | dutchfish | haarp, check your logs, but i bet it is a local mirror not synced up yet |
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| 09:31.33 | svetlana | itry: then do this using templates :-) http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/144471 is a free-style answer about this; also «info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'» |
| 09:31.46 | blackjack | i also noticed bhishma, that my sources.list is not on /etc/apt, but is on /etc/apt/sources.list.d instead |
| 09:31.46 | bhishma | blackjack: yeah, grep https /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* should show some hits |
| 09:32.02 | haarp | dutchfish: nope, redirected all sources to ftp.debian.org or security.debian.org, did apt-get update, and still not getting any secruity updates |
| 09:32.04 | dutchfish | haarp, this is stable aka jessie, right? |
| 09:32.11 | haarp | dutchfish: wheezy |
| 09:32.14 | itry | svetlana: too complicated. too indirect. i will just edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
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| 09:32.20 | dutchfish | ah ok, oldstable |
| 09:32.34 | dutchfish | haarp, that will always limp behind |
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| 09:32.50 | haarp | dutchfish: i know, but updates ARE available |
| 09:33.13 | haarp | its just that my apt seems to think differently |
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| 09:33.27 | dutchfish | haarp, check https://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 09:33.55 | blackjack | bhishma,. this is the sources.list is it correct? |
| 09:33.57 | blackjack | http://paste.debian.net/222966/ |
| 09:34.11 | dutchfish | haarp, which DSA btw? so i can check |
| 09:34.25 | haarp | dutchfish: 3280 |
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| 09:34.34 | blackjack | also same content on security.sources.list |
| 09:34.47 | svetlana | itry: I already said that it'll get overwritten next time you upgrade your kernel, but I'm not stopping you from testing that :-) |
| 09:34.48 | blackjack | it was not on /etc/apt |
| 09:34.54 | blackjack | so i put it there too. but it did not work |
| 09:35.23 | itry | svetlana: yes, then i will have to do it again. but i think thats still better then go some insane way to edit the file indirectly. |
| 09:35.28 | dutchfish | haarp, its there allright https://packages.debian.org/source/wheezy/php5 |
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| 09:36.07 | bhishma | blackjack: Run the command 'grep https /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* ' (notice the star). Did it show something |
| 09:36.15 | svetlana | itry: you have to move a couple files around as they're in alphabetical order - don't need to edit these files... but it's your time, your life, your computer, so do what you wish. my task is only to inform you. |
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| 09:36.36 | itry | svetlana: move which files around? |
| 09:36.37 | bhishma | blackjack: your sources.list looks fine. |
| 09:36.59 | blackjack | --> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/weechat.list:deb https://weechat.org/debian jessie main |
| 09:37.05 | blackjack | thats what shows |
| 09:37.09 | svetlana | itry: reorder the files in /etc/grub.d/ by adjusting the number their name starts with, so that when you list them, the order is the same as desired in grub. |
| 09:37.18 | blackjack | the problem is we are installing weechat when the problem occured |
| 09:37.44 | blackjack | (we seem not to do the corret way of installing it, we managed to download the .deb file and install it via dpkg" |
| 09:37.49 | blackjack | which is not recommended |
| 09:37.55 | blackjack | actually this is my friends vps. im just helping:) |
| 09:38.00 | itry | svetlana: and then run update-grub? |
| 09:38.06 | svetlana | itry: yup :-) |
| 09:38.24 | blackjack | bhishma, you see the problem now? hmmm |
| 09:38.24 | bhishma | blackjack: there it is, comment out that line in weechat.list. Then (1) apt-get update (2) apt-get install apt-transport-https (3) Uncomment the line again (4) Conitnue... |
| 09:38.40 | itry | svetlana: that sounds at least doable... lets try that shit... |
| 09:38.51 | dutchfish | haarp, your sources.list line contains exactly this? deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security wheezy/updates main |
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| 09:39.09 | itry | svetlana: how do i know which of those files is which partition? |
| 09:39.24 | woshty | what is the way to disable a service/daemon to run at boot with jessie? somehow the things I did with update-rc.d in wheezy got lost during the update .. |
| 09:39.25 | haarp | dutchfish: oooh damn, im stupid. i was looking at the wrong machine |
| 09:39.30 | haarp | the entire time |
| 09:39.31 | dutchfish | dugh |
| 09:39.34 | haarp | so sorry :( |
| 09:39.43 | dutchfish | np, have fun fixing it |
| 09:39.53 | haarp | thanks anyway |
| 09:39.56 | dutchfish | yw |
| 09:40.14 | svetlana | itry: the most you can know about them is by viewing them. the output of «ls /etc/grub.d/» should be in the same order as the current grub list when you boot, which may help. |
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| 09:40.39 | blackjack | bhishma, why do i need to uncomment again bhishma? |
| 09:40.45 | blackjack | i just put # |
| 09:40.52 | blackjack | and it worked. apt-get is now working |
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| 09:40.55 | bhishma | blackjack: So that you can install weechat :) |
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| 09:41.01 | blackjack | but whats the purpose of uncommenting |
| 09:41.04 | blackjack | Ok. |
| 09:41.06 | itry | svetlana: ok. whoever create that system must have been drunk and stoned at the same time. |
| 09:41.21 | blackjack | bhishma, but i think weechat is already installed :) |
| 09:41.26 | blackjack | he was able to install it the manual way |
| 09:41.34 | blackjack | could i just leave it w/ comment? |
| 09:41.49 | bhishma | blackjack: So that you can upgrade weechat when the upstream releases later versions! |
| 09:41.57 | blackjack | ok ok. ill uncomment it now |
| 09:42.12 | blackjack | you mean, if i do apt-get upgrade, weechat will be upgraded? |
| 09:42.14 | blackjack | and installed |
| 09:42.16 | blackjack | ... |
| 09:42.20 | bhishma | blackjack: exactly |
| 09:42.43 | svetlana | itry: yes, he writes so in the long info doc as well |
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| 09:45.25 | itry | svetlana: if he had been sober he would have known that people don't read docs. |
| 09:45.54 | itry | svetlana: however i rename those files and run update-grub, absolutely nothing changes in my boot menu. |
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| 09:48.26 | svetlana | itry: ok, give me a couple minutes as I'll reorder a couple things on my instance |
| 09:48.42 | itry | svetlana: i have the feeling /boot/grub/grub.cfg is not the file that the boot menu is made up from. at least sorting the entries in that file also has no impact on my boot menu. |
| 09:53.06 | itry | it looks like grub does not boot from the partition that is mounted into /boot/ |
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| 09:53.23 | itry | how do i set the partition that grub uses? |
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| 10:06.50 | svetlana | itry: there is a russian proverb about this, «пеÑвÑй блин комом» (first try is a failure). apart from being so slow to boot, I didn't get the order changed, either. I might suggest that you ask at #grub and make sure that if they identify a bug in how grub is packaged then the bug is reported. |
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| 10:07.49 | itry | svetlana: what i did now is: a) mount the correct partition to /mnt/foobar/ then edited /mnt/foobar/grub/grub.cfg. that worked. the menu is fine now. |
| 10:08.57 | svetlana | itry: (the only thing I did get to work was seeing changes from /etc/default/grub show up, such as which item is selected by default). I am sure there are some grub editor packages in debian, but my wifi is taking over a minute to load each page, so that'll take a few more minutes. |
| 10:10.05 | itry | svetlana: im fine already. |
| 10:10.33 | itry | svetlana: one thing i dont understand is how grub picks the partition to read /grub/grub.cfg from. |
| 10:11.30 | svetlana | itry: I may suggest to email to debian users ml and describe what you did that was /expected/ to work but didn't. I would not like to think of the next few dozens of users who do exactly the same: try to follow advice from documentation, see it does not work, screw it and edit it manually. |
| 10:11.31 | svetlana | (explaining your partitions setup among other things) |
| 10:11.44 | svetlana | on a related note: does anybody here know of a package or a way to download the debian wiki? pages like https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO are useful, but my internet is so crap that I'd prefer to store them offline. |
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| 10:13.07 | svetlana | itry: right. one thing is that your "fine" is not how it should work: you are agreeable to edit it again for each kernel upgrade, but other users won't and it's not the intended effect. if it was your choice it'd be fine, but it's not - it is so because the other way does not work. this should be brought up at a place where it won't get lost, such as a mailing list or a bug tracker. |
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| 10:14.51 | svetlana | I'm heading out, but if someone is kind enough to respond to my debian wiki question, then I'll find it in the channel logs when I'm back. thanks. |
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| 10:15.12 | itry | svetlana: yeah, you know... just that i dont care. i just wanted to edit my grub menu and i did. thats all. |
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| 10:19.41 | anddam | I rebuilt mldonkey-server enabling an option that's not in debian's package. Now if I try to upgrade my system apt wants to upgrade mldonkey-server to the same version, I figure that means installing debian's package over mine |
| 10:19.52 | anddam | how can I keep mine and be able to upgrade other packages? |
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| 10:36.42 | yeehi | what command do we issue to rsync a dvd image from a server listed: Switzerland: debian.ethz.ch: rsync debian.ethz.ch::debian-cd/ |
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| 10:36.44 | digdilem | anddam, look at pinning in apt |
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| 10:52.59 | anddam | is there a man page for apt/preferences.d ? |
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| 10:54.31 | anddam | namely I don't know if file names in there have to follow a pattern and if there are stanza separators or I can just toss lines from apt/preferences in it |
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| 10:56.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | haven't used that one |
| 10:57.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | I thought preferences.d is for packages while the user edits preferences? |
| 10:57.40 | anddam | I think it's just multiple-files rather than a single apt/preferences file |
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| 10:58.20 | anddam | the point is the (bad) google results show example from ubuntu and those files start with a [ /some/path ] before the Package: * line |
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| 10:59.02 | anddam | so I'm not sure if that [ ] is a comment in apt preference file or something that the ubuntu page is adding on its own in order to show what files is being typed or if it's a mandatory thing that multiple-files configuration need to have |
| 10:59.23 | anddam | that would be cleared by a man page but I cannot find a relevant one |
| 10:59.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, apt-preferences |
| 10:59.32 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
| 10:59.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, that's obviously a forward to the pinning factoid |
| 10:59.43 | anddam | also the focus of debian pages on pinning is about picking packages from different releases |
| 11:00.19 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: not so obvious, <pinning> only suggested to look <backports> |
| 11:00.24 | anddam | thanks |
| 11:01.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, man 5 apt_preferences |
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| 11:02.06 | anddam | https://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences is what I was already reading, as you can see the use cases are quite different, there the Package is * and selection is between releases by explicitly mentioning "release a=testing" |
| 11:02.36 | anddam | in my case I have 3.1.5-2 and apt tries to install 3.1.5-2 , i.e. the same version |
| 11:02.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | â> /etc/apt/preferences.d/ File fragments for the version preferences. Configuration Item: Dir::Etc::PreferencesParts. |
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| 11:03.16 | anddam | yep, so just pieces of apt/preferences |
| 11:03.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, did you make the 3.1.5-2 package yourself? |
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| 11:03.31 | anddam | I don't even know what Dir::Etc::PreferencesParts means |
| 11:03.47 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, as stated earlier I rebuilt the official package by adding an option |
| 11:03.53 | anddam | i.e. uPNP support |
| 11:03.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah |
| 11:04.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | you don't need pinning for that... just increase the version of your homemade package in some way |
| 11:04.13 | anddam | but I don't want apt to wash my package away and then replace it with the official one |
| 11:04.19 | anddam | like -3 |
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| 11:04.34 | anddam | I don't move easily in debian packaging |
| 11:04.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | packages of the same version from the repo have precedence over the ones installed on the system if they differ |
| 11:04.47 | anddam | or I'll just commit the package with the change |
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| 11:04.55 | anddam | (actually request commit for) |
| 11:05.04 | anddam | CutMeOwnThroat: isn't there a way to override that policy? |
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| 11:05.36 | CutMeOwnThroat | yes... if you want to be clearer, I think -2somthing might also work (but it's too long ago to remember well) |
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| 11:06.08 | anddam | sounds reasonable, thanks |
| 11:06.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | anddam, you just add a line in changelog with a new version |
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| 11:08.04 | CutMeOwnThroat | I think the reasoning may be thus: |
| 11:08.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | if you do changes in a package, you should document them in the package changelog (even for yourself)... if there are no changes whatsoever, better take the one from the repo |
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| 11:52.43 | shineworld | thanks bhishma |
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| 12:41.33 | domovoy | hi |
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| 12:49.46 | at0m|c | domovoy: on sid you're supposed to know how to handle such... with my limited knowledge, i use aptitude so i can easily review, add certain recommends or dependencies. |
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| 13:09.11 | boodie | Hi everybody (debian stable) : I might be offtopic here, but my ROSEGARDEN plays notes, but it crashes as soon as I try to access any menu item. Any hints? |
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| 13:11.36 | tethra | boodie: open a terminal and type "dmesg" |
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| 13:11.55 | tethra | do you see a message with the words "segmentation fault" or similar in it, to do with rosegarden? |
| 13:12.00 | tethra | or "oomkiller" or similar |
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| 13:17.01 | boodie | QSpiAccessible::accessibleEvent not handled: "6" obj: QMenu(0x7fad003f37e0, name = "Tools") "Tools" |
| 13:17.01 | boodie | Annullato (which means cancelled) |
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| 13:17.41 | woshty | anyone using lxde with jessie? I can not set proper alarm values with the temperature monitor applet - it always falls back to defaults. |
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| 13:18.24 | boodie | Yesterday I updated tons of packages ... could some of them have affected Rosegarden? Maybe I should re-install it |
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| 13:21.28 | boodie | How can I reinstall rosegarden? |
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| 13:21.54 | tethra | boodie: apt-get install --reinstall rosegarden should do it |
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| 13:23.08 | terminal_fee | hi |
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| 13:24.44 | terminal_fee | Any purpose FREE storagewith PHP5 + MySQL, Script Testing, Personal, and more! at https://www.criosphinx.net/free/ |
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| 13:26.42 | boodie | Ok : reinstalled rosegarden. No improvement, it still crashes. |
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| 13:38.27 | boodie | It's frustrating. Rosegarden crashes, musescore doesn't produce any sounds, finding the solutions is a needle in the haystack ... |
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| 13:49.15 | woshty | network-manager just seems to drop the ipv4 address at the end of lease time, not get a new one .. any ideas? |
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| 13:51.24 | ChrisH | linuxthefish: apt-file search $FILENAME -> apt-get install package or -download-only is one way. Dunno if its possible to download single files from deb from package.debian.org |
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| 14:00.43 | XeonSquared | boodie: finding the solution is like finding a sharp needle in a pile of blunt needles |
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| 14:01.03 | XeonSquared | half the time you're left with like, random stuff and broken stuff in your system |
| 14:04.29 | themill | boodie: precisely which version of rosegarden are you using and which release of debian is this in? |
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| 14:10.59 | Dasiel | Hello mates |
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| 14:13.06 | boodie | rosegarden 14.02 on stable (jessie?) |
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| 14:14.12 | themill | boodie: And it crashes when you click on a menu item? |
| 14:14.53 | themill | (this sounds like #785576 which I have tried and failed to reproduce for the last month) |
| 14:14.54 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/785576 in rosegarden (open): «rosegarden: crash. start, click view»; severity: grave; opened: 2015-05-17; last modified: 2015-05-17. |
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| 14:26.22 | boodie | judd: this is exactly what happens |
| 14:27.13 | zykotick9 | boodie: fyi, judd is a bot, not a person. |
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| 14:27.38 | themill | boodie: could you install the rosegarden-dbg and libqt4-dbg packages and make a backtrace so we can see some more details? https://wiki.debian.org/HowToGetABacktrace |
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| 14:35.17 | Smeggie | apt-get install i3 |
| 14:35.17 | Smeggie | Reading package lists... Done |
| 14:35.17 | Smeggie | Building dependency tree |
| 14:35.17 | Smeggie | Reading state information... Done |
| 14:35.17 | Smeggie | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
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| 14:36.21 | quixote1 | forums.debian.net down for me two days now. Anybody else have this problem? What's going on? |
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| 14:39.14 | boodie | Hi rosegarden problem. I tried the debug ... when (gdb) appeared, i typed "run" ... as I clicked a menu item, the whole desktop froze ... I had to do Alt-Prtsc-K and login again |
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| 14:40.02 | boodie | Rosegarden::Sta[11341]: segfault at 18 ip 00007f6a56e16c30 sp 00007f6a465ad260 error 4 in libQtGui.so.4.8.6[7f6a56a06000+aa3000] |
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| 14:40.19 | boodie | This comes from dmesg |
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| 14:50.07 | enyc | Hrrm.... problem with packages site / changelogs again ?? ... e.g. http://packages.debian.org/xen-hypervisor-4.1-i386 not showing 4.1.4-3+deb7u8 |
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| 14:52.49 | atmc | hello, i try to let numpy/scipy use ATLAS. i did everything on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianScience/LinearAlgebraLibraries , but somehow numpy doesn't recognize it. |
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| 14:58.03 | anddam | when logging into a X session via a desktop manager where's the environment set? |
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| 14:58.32 | anddam | i.e. any shell profile won't be loaded at this point since there are no shell instances being executed |
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| 14:59.03 | anddam | I figure this is related to how the X session is started |
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| 15:00.48 | monitormon | ,kernels |
| 15:00.49 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
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| 15:08.42 | quarterback | Has anybody configured a MTA for sending email? |
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| 15:12.13 | hr49_pi | For the "Device" section in xorg.conf, does the Identifier need to be anything in particular? The example for configuring an NVIDIA GPU sets this string as "My GPU"; I cannot tell if something is meant to be substituted for that or if any string will work. (https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Manual) |
| 15:12.54 | [w_w] | quarterback, I'm no expert, but I did that using postfix. |
| 15:13.15 | quarterback | I was looking at postfix and msmtp, ssmtp |
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| 15:13.46 | quarterback | I think I will try postfix, what is the sytanx for sending email? |
| 15:13.52 | quarterback | syntax* |
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| 15:15.07 | quarterback | I have also rmail |
| 15:15.16 | [w_w] | I use a MUA and configure it to use the postfix mail server. |
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| 15:16.23 | garyserj | is it advisable to install java via apt-get? |
| 15:16.52 | [w_w] | I use dovecot to handle authentication... MUA->postfix->dovecot_auth->postfix->mail gets sent. |
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| 15:24.33 | Gatis | hi |
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| 15:32.20 | monitormon | hi its me again! i am on debian now |
| 15:32.31 | monitormon | replugged interface, lsusb shows it |
| 15:32.36 | monitormon | loaded snd_aloop |
| 15:33.00 | monitormon | cadence says everythings fine (usb interface chosen) and alsa-bridge is enabled |
| 15:33.04 | monitormon | however i have no sound |
| 15:34.08 | monitormon | nvm... had to restart application :) |
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| 15:40.21 | tyorter | How do i use xrandr to use two screen as one screen? |
| 15:40.35 | antiatom | I ran chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf as root, but it was changed automatically via dhclient anyway. I can't even edit it as root, so how is this possible? |
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| 15:41.43 | woshty | tyorter: like next to each other or showing the same content? |
| 15:42.26 | tyorter | woshty both are showing the same content |
| 15:43.40 | woshty | tyorter: --left-of, --right-of, --above, --below, --same-as |
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| 15:44.03 | tyorter | wosht with xrandr? |
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| 15:45.06 | Gatis | hello? |
| 15:45.07 | f4b98 | Is there any problem in creating my own folders under /etc/? I am specifically making /etc/firewall to store custom iptables files |
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| 15:45.42 | woshty | tyorter: xrandr --output $OUTPUT1 --left-of $OUTPUT2 |
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| 15:46.15 | woshty | tyorter: the names for $OUTPUTx are shown calling xrandr without any arguments |
| 15:46.23 | [w_w] | When I log in I get a warning: setlocale: LC_ALL: cannot change locale (de_DE.utf8) |
| 15:46.32 | tyorter | thx |
| 15:46.40 | [w_w] | How can I teach it to look for en_US.utf8 instead? |
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| 15:47.10 | Gatis | hello |
| 15:47.13 | Gatis | ? |
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| 15:47.31 | babilen | [w_w]: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 15:47.46 | [w_w] | I just did that. does it require reboot? |
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| 15:48.12 | babilen | [w_w]: Do you pick German as language somewhere? |
| 15:48.20 | babilen | (it could be set for your user) |
| 15:48.20 | Gatis | helloi> |
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| 15:48.34 | [w_w] | No it was picked by my virtual host. |
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| 15:49.10 | babilen | [w_w]: So you log in via SSH? |
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| 15:49.28 | woshty | what is the current status of that avconv vs ffmpeg whatever at the moment? |
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| 15:51.55 | ConqWarr1 | Hello |
| 15:52.06 | ConqWarr1 | I have just hot my VPN to prepare a machine |
| 15:52.49 | ConqWarr1 | and my sources.list , first 2 links point to stable, next 2 point to security.... on squeezy |
| 15:53.01 | ConqWarr1 | even if my version is now the latest |
| 15:53.03 | ConqWarr1 | is this an issue? |
| 15:53.19 | pipl | Hello, in aptitude, there is a red line : qdbus (<= 4:4.8.4+dfsg-1~). The current qdbus for me (oldstable) is 4:4.8.2+dfsg-11. Why is it bad, 4.8.2+dfsg-11 <= 4.8.4+dfsg~1 ? But libc6 2.13-38+deb7u8 >= 2.4 is ok. I don't understand <= and >=. |
| 15:53.23 | ConqWarr1 | also my first line points to non-us and stable/non-us and it gives me warning when I apt-get install things |
| 15:54.10 | atmc | hello, i try to let numpy/scipy use ATLAS. i did everything on https://wiki.debian.org/DebianScience/LinearAlgebraLibraries , but somehow numpy doesn't recognize it. |
| 15:54.25 | woshty | what is the ffmpeg package called in jessie? |
| 15:54.41 | woshty | (or something that is ffmpeg called by another name) |
| 15:54.49 | roberth1990 | woshty: there is no ffmpeg in jessie, but you can get it from deb-multimedia repo |
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| 15:55.07 | woshty | roberth1990: how did that happen? |
| 15:55.29 | roberth1990 | woshty: well they got the genius idea that ffmpeg should replace libav completely |
| 15:55.33 | woshty | roberth1990: I got that, but it needs a bunch of libs that conflict with other stuff I am using .. |
| 15:55.56 | roberth1990 | woshty: but that didnt go well and didn't arrive back into jessie before jessie got freezed |
| 15:56.02 | roberth1990 | woshty: huh? |
| 15:56.05 | woshty | roberth1990: libav as in the fork that called their tool avconv? |
| 15:56.26 | roberth1990 | libav is fork of the whole ffmpeg |
| 15:56.39 | woshty | roberth1990: sry, got that I can get it from deb-multimedia |
| 15:56.46 | zykotick9 | notes ffmpeg is in sid... |
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| 15:57.10 | roberth1990 | woshty: the ffmpeg in deb-multimedia doesnt conflict with libav in jessie |
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| 16:02.33 | Gatis | hi |
| 16:02.35 | Gatis | Earth is flat |
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| 16:02.49 | dnsk_ | Gatis, ok |
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| 16:03.02 | dnsk_ | Dr_Disk, What is the best way to shred a disk? |
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| 16:04.22 | Gatis | That's great |
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| 16:04.30 | Gatis | i knew since childhood that earth is flat |
| 16:04.53 | quixote_ | anyone know why forums.debian.net is down? |
| 16:04.56 | Gatis | I thought adults must be crazy thinking earth is ball spinning 1000 mph speed :D |
| 16:05.13 | Gatis | But you know children are smarter.. |
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| 16:07.35 | Gatis | "Where the senses fail us, reason must step in." Galileo Galilei° |
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| 16:14.37 | Dr_Disk | dnsk_: places like Iron Mountain have industrial shredders that will shred several drives at a time, I'd say that's the quickest. |
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| 16:15.01 | dnsk_ | Dr_Disk, I see, what if I don't have access to it? |
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| 16:16.47 | Dr_Disk | dnsk_: if it still works, just wipe it with dd or shred, etc.. Otherwise take it apart and destroy the platters. |
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| 16:19.02 | Gatis | Praise the Lord! |
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| 16:19.32 | Gatis | this is only linux channel i'm not banned on. |
| 16:19.34 | Gatis | Respect! |
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| 16:20.37 | ConqWarr1 | nobody can help me please? |
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| 16:21.21 | Gatis | ConqWarr1 maybe I |
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| 16:21.32 | ConqWarr1 | do hlep me then Gatis |
| 16:21.43 | Gatis | okay how |
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| 16:22.21 | jaybe | ConqWarr1, ask a clear, concise question |
| 16:22.38 | ConqWarr1 | nvm then, I think I did |
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| 16:23.51 | ConqWarr1 | :*( |
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| 16:28.17 | pipl | ConqWarr1: should try again another time of the day. |
| 16:28.25 | ConqWarr1 | ok:( |
| 16:28.28 | dnsk_ | Dr_Disk, ok I would use shred and zero it |
| 16:28.47 | dnsk_ | I know it won't be so effective but it is going to be best option I have |
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| 16:32.12 | Dr_Disk | dnsk_: yes, shred will take care of it.. something like shred -vfz -n 10 /dev/sdXX |
| 16:32.42 | Dr_Disk | ^ 10x overwrite.. not fast, but secure |
| 16:32.50 | dnsk_ | Dr_Disk, na I would do shred -uvzn0 /dev/sdX |
| 16:33.14 | dnsk_ | just Zeroing is fine |
| 16:33.28 | Dr_Disk | yep, that'll take care of it |
| 16:33.53 | dnsk_ | ya, it takes a lot of time too |
| 16:33.57 | dnsk_ | shredding is not fun |
| 16:33.58 | dnsk_ | lol |
| 16:33.59 | dnsk_ | :) |
| 16:34.09 | Dr_Disk | better safe than sorry |
| 16:34.12 | dnsk_ | shred is better than dd owing to verbose mode and process bars |
| 16:34.48 | Dr_Disk | yes, progress/status info is nice for long tasks |
| 16:34.56 | dnsk_ | Dr_Disk, I learned Shredding don't work on Flash drives? |
| 16:35.44 | Dr_Disk | you can dd them.. but as cheap as they are, just destroy it. |
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| 16:41.05 | jelly | dnsk_: dd_rescue has a progress bar |
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| 16:42.04 | dnsk_ | jelly, Ok, I did not kow |
| 16:42.15 | jelly | ConqWarr1: which debian release are you supposed to have installed? |
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| 16:42.22 | dnsk_ | Do you recommend any OpenVPN Provider here? |
| 16:42.42 | ConqWarr1 | jelly: It was wheezy, it had security sources to previous one, and I have upgraded to jessie |
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| 16:42.49 | ConqWarr1 | I have replced my sourcs with the one from the wiki anyway |
| 16:42.54 | dhiliptg | how to create a open vpn |
| 16:43.00 | jelly | ConqWarr1: alright then |
| 16:43.11 | ConqWarr1 | I think I broke up a bit of stuff |
| 16:43.14 | ConqWarr1 | but not much |
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| 16:43.32 | ConqWarr1 | how do I do a apt-clean? |
| 16:43.42 | jelly | what are you trying to do? |
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| 16:44.01 | ConqWarr1 | to see if some packages are broken or stuff |
| 16:44.13 | dhiliptg | conqWarrl Hi |
| 16:44.15 | jelly | ConqWarr1: "apt-get -f install" |
| 16:44.33 | ConqWarr1 | here is what I did: I installed the VPN from my provided web interface. I did update and upgrade (apt-get) after sshing |
| 16:44.54 | ConqWarr1 | then I did lsb_release and it was upgraded to jessie from weezy, without dist-updgrre |
| 16:45.00 | ConqWarr1 | I did dist-upgrade and it did some stuff |
| 16:45.19 | ConqWarr1 | then I checked sources and I noticed that It had some squash (other version) references for security |
| 16:45.26 | ConqWarr1 | I replaced my sources file with the example on the wiki |
| 16:45.31 | ConqWarr1 | and id upgrade dist-upgrade again |
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| 16:45.44 | ConqWarr1 | hello dhiliptg |
| 16:45.51 | ConqWarr1 | could this have made any issues? |
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| 16:46.21 | jelly | ConqWarr1: older versions of packages from older releases _should_ not confuse apt-get too much |
| 16:46.34 | jelly | but sometimes they do |
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| 16:46.53 | ConqWarr1 | how do I check if I have conflicts or if I broke anything? |
| 16:46.58 | brain_burn | Anybody got a sec to give me a hand getting b43 firmware to be recognized by a new install? |
| 16:47.21 | brain_burn | my google-fu has failed me |
| 16:47.32 | jelly | ConqWarr1: run "apt-get -f install", see if it complains of anything |
| 16:48.31 | ConqWarr1 | I get this jelly The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: |
| 16:48.42 | ConqWarr1 | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 16:48.49 | ConqWarr1 | -f = fix or force? |
| 16:49.14 | dnsk_ | jelly, why don't aptitude purge remove all the packages like in apt-get purge ? |
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| 16:51.36 | brain_burn | during install of a new debian system, when the installer goes to detect network hardware, it says it needs some firmware files for the broadcom wlan card |
| 16:52.15 | brain_burn | I have the non-free firmware packages unzipped to a usb drive, which is then mounted to the system |
| 16:52.37 | brain_burn | the installer still does not recognize any of the firmware files |
| 16:53.11 | jelly | ConqWarr1: that output means apt's state is clean: nothing broken, nothing to upgrade |
| 16:54.52 | jelly | dnsk_: I don't know what you mean. Which command did you run, what did you expect it would do, what did it do instead? |
| 16:54.55 | jelly | !ask |
| 16:54.55 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:55.40 | GPenguin | brain_burn: ask "dpkg" (the bot) in private about "installer firmware" |
| 16:56.21 | GPenguin | not me, the bot. please |
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| 16:56.41 | martin-_- | hi, |
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| 16:58.12 | monitormon | hi |
| 16:58.13 | martin-_- | I execute cp for doing a backup and I recive this error: cp: cannot create regular file '/USB_HDD_1/home/./martin/AppData/Roaming/X-Chat 2/xchatlogs/FreeNode |
| 16:58.13 | martin-_- | -##php.log': Invalid argument |
| 16:58.13 | martin-_- | which invalid argument?? 0o |
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| 17:01.44 | Raydiation | hi, is the openssl compat issue fixed already? |
| 17:01.55 | jelly | martin-_-: your filesystem type might not accept hash character in the filename |
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| 17:02.24 | martin-_- | oh no |
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| 17:02.27 | jelly | martin-_-: touch /USB_HDD_1/this#is#a#test |
| 17:02.46 | jelly | Raydiation: which compat issue? |
| 17:03.08 | Raydiation | jelly: fix changed a header file which would force all linked programs to be recompiled |
| 17:03.20 | martin-_- | <jelly> martin-_-: touch /USB_HDD_1/this#is#a#test that works |
| 17:03.28 | jelly | oh, build-time issue |
| 17:04.53 | jelly | martin-_-: but touch "/USB_HDD_1/home/./martin/AppData/Roaming/X-Chat 2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-##php.log" doesn't? |
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| 17:06.09 | fossrox | hello everyone, i'm running a netinstall of stable amd64, and it get's stuck at "Select and install software - Running dpkg - 12%" -- Does anybody know what is causing that? I've tried already 4-5 times and it always gets stucked at that specific stage, seems i can't do anything, not even switch to other terminal |
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| 17:06.42 | martin-_- | jelly, ls /USB_HDD_1/home/./martin/AppData/Roaming/X-Chat\ 2/xchatlogs/FreeNode-##php.log |
| 17:06.42 | martin-_- | works |
| 17:06.43 | Encapsulate | how do I configre my /etc/network/interfaces so that if the ethenret cabke is plugged in it will use that, otherwise default to wifi? |
| 17:08.05 | Encapsulate | I guess you just put both in |
| 17:08.06 | Encapsulate | seems to work |
| 17:08.10 | Encapsulate | let me know if there is a better waqy |
| 17:08.10 | jhutchins | Encapsulate: hotplug |
| 17:08.24 | jhutchins | Encapsulate: Instead of "auto". |
| 17:08.54 | Encapsulate | for eth0 wlan0 or both |
| 17:09.46 | Raydiation | btw, what happens to php versions like 5.3 in older stable debian versions? |
| 17:09.57 | Encapsulate | my wifi doesnt worek without eth0 plugged in |
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| 17:10.07 | Raydiation | will fixes like https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=69646 be patched by debian itself? |
| 17:10.08 | Encapsulate | hopefully adding hotplug to eth0 will fix that |
| 17:10.09 | Encapsulate | testing now |
| 17:11.19 | Encapsulate | hotplug fixed it |
| 17:11.19 | Encapsulate | ty |
| 17:12.11 | martin-_- | cp -vuR --preserve=timestamps . /USB_HDD_1/home is used for coping data |
| 17:12.54 | jelly | martin-_-: no idea what happened there, then. I suggest using rsync instead of cp tho. |
| 17:12.57 | roberth1990 | martin-_-: you should use rsync |
| 17:13.21 | martin-_- | okay |
| 17:13.35 | jelly | martin-_-: which filesystem type on the destination? |
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| 17:14.04 | martin-_- | FAT32 |
| 17:14.33 | [w_w] | so I lookup http://www.gnu.org/software/libc/manual/html_node/Error-Codes.html#Error-Codes ... There's and error called ED... and the doc is very informative. |
| 17:14.57 | jelly | Raydiation: "After some mail exchange with ab@php.net it turns out this issue affects Windows only." |
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| 17:16.07 | Raydiation | jelly: :) ok, great. but how will this be handled in general? |
| 17:17.37 | jelly | Raydiation: AFAIK, new patchlevel releases of 5.6.x for debian 8 and 5.4.x for debian 7 (oldstable) are incorporated into debian when they come out. If a CVE is patched there, it's patched. |
| 17:17.47 | jelly | !tracker of doom |
| 17:17.47 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
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| 17:18.08 | Raydiation | jelly: what happens to oldstable? |
| 17:18.11 | jelly | Raydiation: ^^ to look up a specific issue that has been assigned a CVE number |
| 17:18.13 | Raydiation | where no official patch is there |
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| 17:18.48 | jelly | Raydiation: it depends on the severity; php is as buggy as they come |
| 17:19.14 | Raydiation | yeah right, but what about remote code execution in php for instance |
| 17:19.24 | Raydiation | would you guys dig into the src code and create a patch? |
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| 17:19.54 | Raydiation | or just take patches from rhel where someone needs to write those? |
| 17:20.09 | jelly | Raydiation: sometimes the maintainers do just that. Sometimes they just note a certain CVE is not relevant, or deemed not important or too hard |
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| 17:20.42 | jelly | Raydiation: if there's a CVE number, it _will_ get tracked in debian, you be able to see if it's fixed or not |
| 17:20.42 | CryptoSiD | when i try to install nagios3, it want to install apache2, how can i install nagios3 without installing apache2, im running nginx |
| 17:20.47 | Raydiation | too hard as in "you're on your own"? |
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| 17:20.54 | Raydiation | i see, thanks :) |
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| 17:22.27 | ConqWarr1 | what is the difference between useradd and adduser? |
| 17:22.30 | cybrNaut | there is no "LinuxContainers" package.. is there something comparable? |
| 17:22.40 | cybrNaut | something without the overhead of virtualbox |
| 17:22.44 | Raydiation | ConqWarr1: afaik adduser is easier to use |
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| 17:23.43 | jelly | judd: why nagios3 apache2 |
| 17:23.47 | judd | Packages nagios3 and apache2 in jessie/amd64 are linked by 2 chains: nagios3 ⶠnagios3-cgi ⶠlibapache2-mod-php5 ⶠapache2; nagios3 ⶠnagios3-cgi ⷠapache2 |
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| 17:24.30 | CryptoSiD | id like to install everything else but not apache2 and libapache2-mod-php5 |
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| 17:26.32 | jelly | CryptoSiD: assuming you have nginx from debian, the second chain is satisfied. However nagios3-cgi depends on libapache2-mod-php5 | php5 | php5-cgi, and it seems you don't have any of those installed |
| 17:26.37 | CryptoSiD | well, if i try to uninstall apache2 after, it say nagios3 is dependent on apache2 |
| 17:26.54 | jelly | CryptoSiD: which debian release is this? |
| 17:26.59 | CryptoSiD | stretch |
| 17:27.16 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 17:27.16 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 17:27.50 | babilen | ConqWarr1: Read the adduser manpage |
| 17:28.00 | jelly | CryptoSiD: might be some other issue introduced in testing |
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| 17:28.32 | jelly | CryptoSiD: what happens if you use apt-get to remove apache2 instead of aptitude:? |
| 17:28.34 | ConqWarr1 | so useradd is low level? and adduser is an UI on top of useradd |
| 17:28.34 | ConqWarr1 | ? |
| 17:28.41 | jelly | ConqWarr1: correct |
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| 17:29.40 | CryptoSiD | im able to remove apache2 apache2-bin apache2-data |
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| 17:30.28 | ConqWarr1 | ok thank you |
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| 17:35.56 | mactimes | Hey everyone. I want to parse a log file, grabbing all the lines between string1 and string2, but only when between those strings I have string3. Could someone, please, help me on this? I tried using sed (which gives me results for grabbing lines between string1 and string2, but haven't managed to make it catch it ONLY when string3 exists somewhere in between those; awk has only 1 FS, so couldn't do it either...) |
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| 17:37.38 | jelly | CryptoSiD: aptitude sometimes has problems figuring out alternative dependencies like Depends: a | b |
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| 17:48.00 | cybrNaut | mactimes: i've had to do that before.. it's a bit complex |
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| 17:49.01 | mactimes | cybrNaut Oh, yeah. I'm suffering here trying to solve it... |
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| 17:49.58 | cybrNaut | mactimes: one approach is to do: sed -ne '/string1/,/string2/p' | tr "\n" "!" | sed 's/!string1/\n&/' | grep string3 | sed 's/!/\n/g' |
| 17:50.24 | cybrNaut | mactimes: that assumes you can pick a neutral character like "!" to be a delimiter |
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| 17:51.05 | cybrNaut | mactimes: i suspect awk is better than sed for this though.. with awk you can play with ORS and RS variables |
| 17:52.00 | mactimes | cybrNaut I'm trying to figure it out with awk too. I'm not looking into grep to see if I can fix that with regular expressions. |
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| 17:52.48 | jelly | mactimes: awk or perl or any script language can slurp lines from A to B and set a state variable if there a match for C, and print the slurped input if C && B |
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| 17:53.56 | cybrNaut | mactimes: there is also "grep --perl-regexp" which can span multiple lines |
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| 17:54.26 | mactimes | jelly Hahahaha, I believe you on that. But I'm not capable of doing so! |
| 17:54.37 | mactimes | cybrNaut I'll try that. Thank you! |
| 17:54.50 | jelly | mactimes: maybe it's time to learn! |
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| 17:54.59 | ConqWarr1 | Hello |
| 17:55.06 | ConqWarr1 | By default I have users such as games, list, irc, mail |
| 17:55.09 | ConqWarr1 | is it ok to remove them? |
| 17:55.22 | ConqWarr1 | also gants |
| 17:55.23 | ConqWarr1 | gnats |
| 17:55.36 | mactimes | jelly I'm trying... I can't understand awk basics! Have read lots of pages, but that just doesn't get into my head! |
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| 17:56.50 | jhutchins | mactimes: You probably want to focus on pages about "regular expressions" as opposed to awk. |
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| 17:57.39 | jelly | ConqWarr1: uids and gids 0-99 are predefined and exactly the same on any debian, unless you have a VERY good reason to remove them, don't |
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| 17:58.09 | mactimes | jhutchins I've been trying to that too. I can understand the basic on regex, but the complex parts are really too complex. |
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| 17:59.03 | ConqWarr1 | jelly: what's the point of the games account? |
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| 17:59.50 | ConqWarr1 | or of news |
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| 18:04.08 | jhutchins | ConqWarr1: They are accounts used by some common services on linux servers. They're traditional, and some programs expect them to exist. |
| 18:04.41 | ConqWarr1 | ok |
| 18:04.48 | ConqWarr1 | they pose no security risk? |
| 18:04.55 | ConqWarr1 | like someone can't assh into my server with games? |
| 18:05.05 | jhutchins | ConqWarr1: Usually they are set up so you can't log into them. |
| 18:05.09 | ConqWarr1 | ok |
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| 18:06.43 | quixote_ | id I change options on module kernel sdhci and then do "sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" what do "-u" "-k" and "all" do?? |
| 18:07.01 | quixote_ | not "id". If |
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| 18:11.31 | petn-randall | ConqWarr1: It's a good idea to disable password authentication for SSH anyway. |
| 18:11.48 | frostschutz | quixote_, update all kernels? |
| 18:12.44 | jelly | ConqWarr1: system accounts do not pose a security risk unless you change them yourself |
| 18:13.15 | jelly | mactimes: a state machine awk thing http://paste.debian.net/224361/ |
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| 18:14.01 | mactimes | jelly Taking a look right now. Thank you. |
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| 18:17.32 | jelly | mactimes: test input: echo -e 'string1\nDO NOT PRINT THIS\nstring2\nstring3 NOT THIS EITHER\nstring2\nstring1 BUT THIS YES\nstring3\nstring2' |
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| 18:19.08 | mactimes | jelly Not exactly this... |
| 18:19.24 | mactimes | jelly I'll write an example of the log file, hold on. |
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| 18:20.45 | jelly | mactimes: this shows lines between string1 and string2, inclusive, only if there's a string3 somewhere between |
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| 18:22.09 | jelly | mactimes: but more than that, it shows how a simple awk script can be written as a series of conditions and actions |
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| 18:22.57 | mactimes | jelly Here it is: http://paste.debian.net/224381/ |
| 18:23.55 | mactimes | jelly Oh, I think "I" missed it. |
| 18:24.06 | jelly | mactimes: seems string2 and string3 have exchanged meanings, then |
| 18:25.04 | mactimes | jelly My bad. I inverted string2 and string3 positions. You're definitely right. Thank you and I'm sorry for the stupidity. |
| 18:25.45 | jelly | this is why it's best to show actual input and desired output instead of inventing hypothetical examples |
| 18:28.10 | quixote_ | frostschutz, that sounds plausible. Thanks! (man update-initramfs tells me nothing useful :( ) |
| 18:28.39 | Gatis | °hi |
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| 18:30.00 | mactimes | jelly Once again, thank you very much. Do you have any good material for awk studying you would recommend? |
| 18:30.25 | jelly | not at hand, sorry |
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| 18:31.45 | mactimes | jelly Roger that. |
| 18:32.13 | mactimes | jelly What would I have to do to change that script to print the file name and the lines numbers? |
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| 18:38.11 | jelly | mactimes: $NR is line number (Number of Record) in awk. $0 is whole line being read. You'd add it to slurp = $NR $0 "\n" probably |
| 18:38.38 | jelly | er, slurp = slurp $NR $0 "\n" |
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| 18:39.14 | jelly | mactimes: or more stupidly, grep -nH . file | current-awk-script |
| 18:39.17 | mactimes | jelly I was just reading about $NR now. But isn't $NR sort of the "match" number? |
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| 18:41.06 | jelly | mactimes: NR is fine if you only have one file for input, else use FNR I guess... I never had to |
| 18:41.10 | mactimes | jelly The final purpose of this will be generating a log file telling me which files (and their specific line numbers) where that pattern is found, with the pattern logged too. |
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| 18:43.17 | mactimes | jelly So, I'm looking forward to do something like this: "find /path/to/logs -type f -iname \*.log -exec /path/to/parsing/script.sh {} \; >> /path/to/log/file.log |
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| 18:43.50 | RichN | hey guys afternoon |
| 18:44.17 | RichN | I have been working on a pkg but I nee to know how to disable signfile |
| 18:44.32 | RichN | as I am not signing the pkgs yest |
| 18:44.34 | RichN | yet |
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| 18:45.57 | RichN | gpg: skipped "Richard Neese <kb3vgw@gmail.com>": No secret key |
| 18:45.57 | RichN | gpg: dpkg-sign.CRn0fEaL/svxlink_14.08.1-2.dsc: clearsign failed: No secret key |
| 18:46.00 | jelly | mactimes: that might work |
| 18:46.32 | mactimes | jelly And I'd have that file.log containing "filename:linenumber:yadayada string1 yadayada\nfilename:linenumber: lines in between\nfilename:linenumber:yadayada string3 yadayada\nfilename:linenumber:yada yada more lines yada yada\nfilename:linenumber:yadayada string2 yadayada |
| 18:47.01 | Gatis | Hello everyone |
| 18:47.45 | jelly | mactimes: well then I guess you can add some $FILENAME ":" $FNR ":" to slurp in addition to $0 and "\n" |
| 18:48.08 | mactimes | jelly Yeah, but FNR is the record number, not the file line number. |
| 18:48.31 | mactimes | jelly Or I'm understanding it wrong? |
| 18:48.42 | RichN | anyone know how to override this |
| 18:48.56 | RichN | its breaking the files when I put them in the repo |
| 18:49.04 | RichN | they dont show up |
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| 18:49.45 | jelly | mactimes: to awk, input files are sequences of records. If just so happens that default record delimiter is exactly the same as a normal text line delimiter |
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| 18:50.08 | jelly | mactimes: thus in effect FNR = line number |
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| 18:50.21 | mactimes | jelly Hummm. I'll try that. Thank you! |
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| 18:51.31 | jelly | mactimes: try things, it won't bite |
| 18:51.41 | mactimes | jelly If I didn't require the content in between those patterns, I'd just do "find /path/to/log -type f -exec grep -sHine pattern\ to\ find {} \; >> file.log" |
| 18:51.45 | mactimes | jelly I'll do. |
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| 18:52.50 | RichN | it outs the files in the repo but after a apt-get update and apt-cache search svxli* nothing comes up |
| 18:53.34 | mactimes | jelly Do I have to scape the expressions within the slashes? |
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| 18:54.37 | jelly | mactimes: the stuff inside // is a regular expression so if you have regex-special characters, yes |
| 18:54.37 | CHVNX | Yesterday's stretch upgrades borked mplayer, transmission, and a few python libs. Anyone else? |
| 18:54.44 | CHVNX | segfaults all around |
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| 18:57.40 | baum | uhm realy stupid question: if i intalled virtual box via apt-get i should be able to basicly start it from the shell by typing virtualbox right? |
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| 18:58.57 | reber | hi all |
| 18:58.57 | mactimes | baum I guess there is a lowercase link now, but, yes. Try VirtualBox |
| 18:59.08 | reber | i got a glx problem on VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller |
| 18:59.10 | reber | idea ? |
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| 18:59.39 | Gatis | Hi |
| 18:59.42 | Gatis | Jesus is alive |
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| 19:01.10 | baum | mactimes: hum thanks, kinda strange that it didn't work though virtualbox doesn't seem to be linked anymore - there isn't even a deskop entry for the dmenu... |
| 19:01.40 | mactimes | baum Did you get any errors when running 'virtualbox'? |
| 19:01.59 | baum | mactimes: command not found |
| 19:02.38 | mactimes | baum There you go. You can just alias it in your bashrc |
| 19:03.02 | mactimes | baum Can do the same to VBoxManage |
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| 19:03.51 | baum | mactimes: VBoxManage works...that's the strange thing |
| 19:04.07 | baum | virtualbox should be aliased by default if i recall it right |
| 19:04.23 | gaganjyot | hi there, I just upgraded my machine, I am using sid |
| 19:04.40 | gaganjyot | but now the machine doesn't detects my headphones plugged in front audio jack |
| 19:04.43 | gaganjyot | any help? |
| 19:04.46 | mactimes | baum I remember it has worked before, yes. But in general, I just run VirtualBox. |
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| 19:06.06 | baum | mactimes: newbie question: in which directory does sofware (installed via apt-get) install by default? |
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| 19:06.51 | CHVNX | Yesterday's stretch upgrades borked mplayer, transmission, and a few python libs. Segfaults. Anyone else have issues since yesterday? |
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| 19:08.10 | jelly | CHVNX: ask in #debian-next, over on irc.oftc.net |
| 19:08.15 | mtn | baum: things don't go into only one directory |
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| 19:08.33 | mactimes | baum Do you want to check the files installed by the virtualbox package, right? Just do 'sudo dpkg -L <packagename>' |
| 19:08.45 | mtn | baum: you can also see which files are installed and where they are install by using dpkg -l, if I recall |
| 19:09.02 | baum | thanks |
| 19:09.03 | mactimes | mtn dpkg -l will list packages |
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| 19:09.23 | mactimes | mtn dpkg -L <package> will list package contents |
| 19:09.24 | mtn | mactimes: yup, I mean dpkg -l packagename |
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| 19:10.26 | mactimes | mtn dpkg -l <packagename> will list the status for <packagename>, not its contents. |
| 19:10.41 | mactimes | mtn You gotta use capital L. |
| 19:10.47 | mtn | mactimes: I stand corrected. |
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| 19:14.08 | nezZario | I can't find any straightforward instructions on doing a fresh debian install via USB ? |
| 19:14.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell nezZario -about usb install |
| 19:14.53 | babilen | nezZario: Read the install guide linked in the factoid the bot just sent you in private |
| 19:15.09 | bigfoot111 | nezZario: Do you need help burning the iso to usb? |
| 19:15.14 | nezZario | ah weird, I couldn't find this via google..guess I didn't google hard enough :) |
| 19:15.23 | otyugh | hey there. I've got this very interesting audio file about someone talking in a place with a really bad microphone. Is there a simple way to get a shitty recorded voice, "cleared" somehow ? |
| 19:15.34 | nezZario | Nope this will do |
| 19:15.42 | baum | nezZario: try using metager.de instead of google - helps here and there ;) |
| 19:15.52 | mactimes | jelly I have made the changes you told me here and tested. |
| 19:16.06 | mactimes | jelly Works like a charm! Once again, thank you very, very much! |
| 19:16.11 | jelly | !win mactimes |
| 19:16.11 | dpkg | Congratulations, mactimes! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 19:17.05 | mactimes | jelly If you recall the documentation you'd recommend about awk, please, let me know. :D |
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| 19:23.01 | nezZario | What the heck.. you can cp directly into devices ? |
| 19:23.36 | Brigo | nezZario, right, why not? :) |
| 19:23.45 | Mikko- | hugs dd |
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| 19:24.51 | mactimes | jelly Sorry for bothering you again, but how do I make those expressions case insensitive? |
| 19:25.17 | jelly | mactimes: hummm... might be a command line awk option for that? |
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| 19:25.37 | nezZario | Oh, Jessie is stable now? |
| 19:25.45 | nezZario | Man I've been in a cave |
| 19:25.49 | allorder | yep |
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| 19:27.10 | jelly | mactimes: gawk manual says IGNORECASE env.var |
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| 19:27.34 | mactimes | jelly Yeah, I think I'll just have to add it to the beginning of the script. |
| 19:27.43 | mactimes | jelly I'm reading the man page now. |
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| 19:28.30 | jelly | mactimes: oh, it's not env. var, it's awk internal. Set it in BEGIN { } then |
| 19:28.53 | mactimes | jelly Ok. |
| 19:30.01 | mactimes | jelly I put before the BEGIN and wasn't working. Inside the BEGIN works perfectly. Again, thank you! |
| 19:30.13 | mactimes | thanks jelly for all the spam. |
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| 19:30.48 | jelly | mactimes: "BEGIN" is just a condition like /foo/ -- remember it's always condition { code } |
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| 19:35.35 | mactimes | jelly Any chance I can have string3 read by command line? |
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| 19:37.24 | jelly | mactimes: awk -v variable=value -f script.awk ..., then use variable inside the script? |
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| 19:38.23 | jelly | mactimes: that's exceeding my knowledge quickly, but there's an #awk channel |
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| 19:45.19 | Indrew | Can somebody explain me why my system makes 'dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of 192.168.178.26 on wlan0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67'? |
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| 19:45.25 | Indrew | Thought that a DHCP request is made from 0.0.0.0? |
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| 19:47.58 | lobbes | hello all. I'm running Debian 8 (amd64) and encountering intermittent problems with my WiFi. It will drop my connection to my access point, with the connection disappearing from my 'Available Connections' list. If I disable Wireless and then re-enable, it will connect right back automatically |
| 19:48.12 | TJ- | Indrew: 255.255.255.255. is a broadcast |
| 19:48.34 | lobbes | I'm using Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 as my wireless adapter |
| 19:48.45 | ompaul | lobbes: how good a signal have you got |
| 19:48.59 | ompaul | lobbes: how many other users are there sharing the network |
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| 19:49.31 | lobbes | good signal. Also, I should point out that my other computers connect without issue, including my dual-boot windows8 on this laptop |
| 19:49.48 | lobbes | only one other user sharing network |
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| 19:51.19 | foul_owl | Hi folks. How can I list all possible preseed commands? I've seen the example preseed, but there is no way to list netcfg/* for example... |
| 19:51.43 | foul_owl | Unless there is some sort of preseed man pages I am missing |
| 19:51.55 | foul_owl | Or better yet, an index |
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| 19:56.02 | ompaul | lobbes: how far away from the router are you |
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| 19:57.29 | mistnim | I'm trying to resize(shrink) a ntfs with gparted, it allows me to click on the resizebutton, but then there all the values are greyed and blocked. Why can it be? |
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| 19:58.02 | mistnim | I understand I can't use the increase button, because there is another partition immediately on the right of it, but why not decrease? |
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| 20:05.23 | bob3 | hi - can i add gnu repository to synaptic? |
| 20:07.43 | bob3 | i want to install icecat via synaptic - thanks |
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| 20:09.31 | mistnim | bob3 why don't you just use apt? |
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| 20:12.22 | bob3 | ah - i'm new to linux |
| 20:12.37 | stefkos | hi, I want to update package libssh and libssh-dev on debian |
| 20:12.45 | stefkos | my last one is 0.5.2 |
| 20:12.48 | stefkos | how to do that? |
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| 20:13.05 | stefkos | maybe silly question..but |
| 20:13.11 | ConqWarr1 | Hello |
| 20:13.16 | bob3 | ah - so i can use cli apt to install icecat from a mirror with the proper url |
| 20:13.26 | ConqWarr1 | how can I save the list of packages/programs I've installed using apt-get to reinstall on a fresh install? |
| 20:13.37 | ConqWarr1 | I want only packages I've installed on top of the default, not all the standard stuff |
| 20:13.43 | mistnim | bob3 apt-get |
| 20:13.56 | ConqWarr1 | I've read about dpkg --get-selections but it includes lots of stuff |
| 20:14.00 | ConqWarr1 | and it's on a fresh debian install |
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| 20:14.30 | mistnim | stefkos apt-get upgrade? |
| 20:14.37 | stefkos | lets see |
| 20:15.03 | stefkos | it says only about libcups...apache |
| 20:15.09 | stefkos | but do not see libssh in list |
| 20:15.13 | bob3 | @mistim - can i use apt-transport-https like synaptic? |
| 20:15.32 | mistnim | stefkos: tried "apt-get update" first? |
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| 20:15.48 | mistnim | bob3 I have no idea what that is |
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| 20:16.11 | antiatom | Hi all, I just rm -rf a directory with 11G of data, but df -h does not show that space free. Filesystem is btrfs |
| 20:16.12 | stefkos | mistnim, still do not see it on the list |
| 20:16.27 | stefkos | I have openssl...cups, fuse, ssl-dev |
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| 20:16.53 | mistnim | stefkos are you on debian stable/testing/what? |
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| 20:17.25 | mistnim | antiatom what does du -h says? |
| 20:17.30 | stefkos | mistnim, just say how to check that...hmm I see wheezy |
| 20:17.36 | stefkos | main |
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| 20:18.01 | mistnim | stefkos: why not jessie? |
| 20:18.07 | mistnim | that's the old one |
| 20:18.16 | stefkos | how to update that? |
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| 20:19.04 | mistnim | stefkos: you can either get the cd and basically reinstall the system or more difficult... you can try to dist-upgrade |
| 20:19.05 | stefkos | can I do that? |
| 20:19.20 | stefkos | hmm |
| 20:19.29 | stefkos | ok, what can happen with second? |
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| 20:19.35 | stefkos | +option |
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| 20:20.30 | mistnim | stefkos: sometimes things can go wrong |
| 20:20.53 | mistnim | stefkos: but I haven't really tried it, so maybe it's not bad at all |
| 20:21.04 | antiatom | mistnim: du -h has too much output to be useful |
| 20:21.07 | stefkos | Im reading about that now |
| 20:21.08 | antiatom | What am I looking for? |
| 20:21.19 | bob3 | thanks guys - i think i got now! |
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| 20:21.59 | stefkos | mistnim, http://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-debian-linux-system-from-wheezy-to-jessie-stable-release not so bad.... |
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| 20:22.36 | mistnim | yes stefkos, remember to really upgrade current system though |
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| 20:23.26 | stefkos | mistnim, you mean, after apt-get dist-upgrade right? |
| 20:23.35 | mistnim | stefkos: no |
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| 20:24.11 | RichN | ok guys having a issue here |
| 20:24.20 | mistnim | stefkos: you have to be sure that wheezy is updated before upgrading to jessie |
| 20:24.28 | stefkos | ah ok |
| 20:24.35 | stefkos | well I have system on vmware |
| 20:24.55 | stefkos | will do that after making a copy of image |
| 20:25.26 | RichN | I built a a set of pkgs and put them in a repo the repo inport processed them but when I do a apt-get update and apt-cache search for the pkg it fails to find them |
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| 20:25.42 | stefkos | mistnim, thx mate |
| 20:26.20 | RichN | built them for debian jessie |
| 20:26.37 | RichN | and you can see the files in the repo via the http interface |
| 20:26.49 | RichN | but I dont get why they are not installable |
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| 20:28.21 | RichN | anyone here have time to help . I did manage to make them un signed |
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| 20:29.37 | RichN | I get no build errors |
| 20:29.45 | RichN | and it makes the debs |
| 20:29.55 | RichN | but why is the repo failing |
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| 20:32.11 | RichN | if I add the sounds pkg into repo it shows up |
| 20:32.20 | RichN | and is installable via apt-get |
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| 20:35.50 | RichN | any package devs here |
| 20:35.54 | RichN | that can help |
| 20:36.50 | ompaul | !ask |
| 20:36.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 20:37.31 | wakeatnight | hi |
| 20:37.40 | wakeatnight | my interface is still acting weird on debian 8 |
| 20:37.40 | RoyK | ho |
| 20:37.53 | wakeatnight | i basically have to replug it every reboot? |
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| 20:38.24 | RoyK | gui thing? |
| 20:38.40 | RichN | http://pastebin.ca/3027495 |
| 20:38.49 | RichN | there is a pastebin of the import |
| 20:39.04 | RichN | it gives no errors |
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| 20:40.28 | RichN | no pkg devs here |
| 20:40.38 | allorder | !smart question |
| 20:40.38 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
| 20:40.40 | RichN | and I cant get into debian-deval |
| 20:40.49 | ompaul | !mentors |
| 20:40.49 | dpkg | rumour has it, mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 20:41.32 | RichN | debian-mentors is set invite only |
| 20:41.34 | ompaul | you show no error |
| 20:41.35 | RichN | cant join |
| 20:41.37 | klys | http://paste.debian.net/224777/ |
| 20:41.51 | ompaul | ok well you show no error you claim an error so nobody is going to work on that |
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| 20:44.22 | stefkos | I want to upgrade my system to jessie |
| 20:44.30 | stefkos | but apt-get dist-upgrade do nothing |
| 20:44.56 | stefkos | hmm lets see |
| 20:45.16 | RichN | you have to edit your repos and move they to jessie before running the distupgrade |
| 20:45.18 | klys | you need apt-get update first |
| 20:45.42 | stefkos | yeah I made that |
| 20:45.46 | RichN | if you dont change the repos it wont know to move to the next distro |
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| 20:45.49 | stefkos | my problem was sources.list file |
| 20:46.15 | RichN | apt-get update annd aptitude distupgrade |
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| 20:46.38 | stefkos | thx |
| 20:46.47 | klys | http://paste.debian.net/224714/ |
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| 20:47.26 | ConqWarr1 | Hello |
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| 20:47.30 | ConqWarr1 | I get sudo command not found |
| 20:47.32 | ConqWarr1 | why is that? |
| 20:47.56 | ConqWarr1 | is the default debain PATH wrong? |
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| 20:49.42 | allorder | ConqWarr1: did you install sudo |
| 20:49.44 | rich2 | hello all i got a problem i can't figure out |
| 20:49.46 | klys | man sudoers [secure_path] |
| 20:49.59 | ConqWarr1 | you have to install it? |
| 20:50.06 | ConqWarr1 | I added myself to the sudo group |
| 20:50.08 | allorder | with minimal install |
| 20:50.11 | ConqWarr1 | and it didn't tell me that it doesn't exist |
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| 20:50.28 | rich2 | how do I stop this from happening?> [UFW AUDIT] IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=5079 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=48598 DPT=631 WINDOW=43690 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 |
| 20:51.11 | rich2 | all the time filling up my logs and making me nervous. I removed cups, cupsd, avahi-utils and daemon, wen into the package manager removed everythjing I could, I don't even have a printer option in settings anymore |
| 20:51.18 | rich2 | yet its still sniffing all the time |
| 20:51.21 | rich2 | how can I stop it? |
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| 20:51.46 | rich2 | i also removed the networkmanager and just interfaces file, everything that had to do with cups |
| 20:51.56 | rich2 | i'm giving up, on fedora i don't see this issue |
| 20:52.16 | klys | do you know the meaning of UFW AUDIT |
| 20:52.26 | rich2 | maybe not, tell me? |
| 20:52.33 | rich2 | all i know is it doestn' say BLOCKED! |
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| 20:53.02 | rich2 | well actually, what i did in the sysctl.conf, or ufw before.rules i can't remember, i edited out the secions to allow syn packets, and also to allow all on loopback |
| 20:53.18 | rich2 | so i now I do actually see a BLOCKED, but only after that audit which is still appearing |
| 20:53.26 | rich2 | which appears first always |
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| 20:53.46 | rich2 | so I don't believe its really blocking anything |
| 20:54.01 | rich2 | but I don't even want to see the attempts, why is it happening and how can I stop it? |
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| 20:54.55 | rich2 | is it like some aut printer discovery at the kernel level that can't be stopped or blocked? |
| 20:55.14 | rich2 | is it big brother sniffing our networks, come on how can I stop this? |
| 20:55.17 | klys | "UFW - Uncomplicated Firewall is a basic firewall that..." |
| 20:55.21 | rich2 | it doesn't happen on fedora |
| 20:55.27 | klys | were you running ubuntu? |
| 20:55.38 | rich2 | mint cinnamon and kde, and debian gnome |
| 20:55.56 | rich2 | on fedora lxde when logging martian packets and setting loggin to high, I don't see this issue at all |
| 20:56.06 | klys | dpkg -l | grep ufw |
| 20:56.06 | dpkg | ii | grep ufw 2.1-5.3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 20:56.10 | metallic | Hello, my computer has an AMD processor of 64 bits, it works with the set of instructions x86 right? |
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| 20:56.33 | rich2 | klys: are you telling me tehre is no way to stoip auto printer discovery in linux? |
| 20:56.40 | LtL | rich2: allowing syn packets initiate connection opening, provided an ACK response is received so you may be shooting yourself in the foot |
| 20:56.43 | klys | rich2, dpkg -l | grep ufw |
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| 20:57.26 | rich2 | LtL: allowing or disalowing? ? |
| 20:57.39 | rich2 | i went into the file, commented the allow syn packets out, but its still doing it |
| 20:57.53 | rich2 | or should i leave it uncommetned and change to 0 instead of 1 maybe i'll try that |
| 20:58.26 | rich2 | hello pencil |
| 20:58.47 | rich2 | klys ufw 0.34~rc-0ubuntu2 all program for managing a Netfilter firewall |
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| 20:59.08 | LtL | rich2: in which context |
| 20:59.11 | rich2 | klys: i got the same issue on debian 8 gnome |
| 20:59.39 | rich2 | LtL: i'm not sure what you mean? let me paste you the line |
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| 20:59.56 | LtL | rich2: blocking all syn packets noone can connect to you IIRC |
| 20:59.57 | rich2 | net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies=1 |
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| 21:00.06 | rich2 | LtL: what? |
| 21:00.13 | rich2 | well by default that is disabled? |
| 21:00.21 | klys | metallic, zgrep IA32 /proc/config.gz |
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| 21:00.27 | LtL | rich2: incoming? |
| 21:00.34 | rich2 | that line i just pasted for you is disabled by default |
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| 21:00.38 | rich2 | i was going to re-comment it out |
| 21:00.42 | rich2 | and see if it makes a diff |
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| 21:01.23 | metallic | /proc/config.gz does not exist klys |
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| 21:02.22 | rich2 | LtL: if that doesn';t make a difference i was going to make it 0 |
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| 21:03.24 | metallic | Just to make sure, AMD processors work with the same instruction set as Intel ones, right? |
| 21:03.26 | rich2 | ok it happens every 5 mins....so in 2 mins I should know |
| 21:03.48 | g00se | metallic: yes |
| 21:03.54 | Tuplanolla | I have a strange problem. All text components in all graphical Java applications only show the first half of the text. |
| 21:04.12 | metallic | g00se: no matter whether they're 64 bits or not? |
| 21:04.23 | rich2 | nope still happening |
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| 21:04.29 | rich2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:04.38 | rich2 | and right before that [ 6175.399246] [UFW BLOCK] IN= OUT=lo SRC=127.0.0.1 DST=127.0.0.1 LEN=60 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=35857 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=48622 DPT=631 WINDOW=43690 RES=0x00 SYN URGP=0 |
| 21:04.41 | Tuplanolla | Installing Microsoft fonts or switching to a newer JDK didn't solve anything. |
| 21:04.45 | g00se | yes |
| 21:04.52 | klys | metallic, check for /boot/config-* |
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| 21:05.33 | g00se | And what do they show *after* the first half? |
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| 21:06.23 | rich2 | so there is no way to stop linux from sniffing your network, this is interesting |
| 21:06.27 | rich2 | I didn't have this problem last year |
| 21:06.34 | klys | rich2, dpkg -l | grep ufw |
| 21:06.39 | rich2 | I did already man |
| 21:06.44 | klys | anything? |
| 21:06.49 | rich2 | ya ubuntu |
| 21:06.58 | rich2 | let me do it again |
| 21:06.59 | Tuplanolla | Starting Java with -Dsun.java2d.xrender=false seems to kind of fix it. |
| 21:06.59 | klys | can you remove it? |
| 21:07.10 | rich2 | remove ufw? |
| 21:07.13 | klys | yes |
| 21:07.19 | rich2 | what? lol |
| 21:07.27 | metallic | g00se: just another question, if a compilation error states that an assembler instruction is not legal, why could it be? I have an AMD and the source code I want to compile is supposed to work for x86_64 processors :( |
| 21:07.55 | rich2 | klys: you think its a ufw issue? |
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| 21:08.07 | klys | rich2: [UFW AUDIT] |
| 21:08.08 | g00se | Because it's wrong? |
| 21:08.20 | rich2 | klyls: lmao, nevermind man |
| 21:08.25 | metallic | g00se: well, it is not supposed to be. |
| 21:08.29 | rich2 | we're all fkn doomed |
| 21:08.47 | klys | hey I'm not running ufw. don't you mean iptables anyway |
| 21:08.48 | metallic | although I don't know, this is supposed to be a stable version |
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| 21:09.06 | rich2 | klys: its just a frontend for iptables |
| 21:09.10 | g00se | Well the compiler/assembler is kind of the ultimate authority on that kind of thing |
| 21:10.05 | metallic | What do you suggest me to do? I don't know what to do besides asking for help because I have no idea :( |
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| 21:10.29 | g00se | Your not really in the right channel |
| 21:10.40 | g00se | s/your/you're |
| 21:11.07 | rich2 | g00se: i'm desperate |
| 21:11.12 | metallic | I'll ask the authors :( |
| 21:11.17 | rich2 | how do I stop the loopback attemps on port 631 |
| 21:11.31 | klys | metallic, you're shopping for a cpu? just get a cpu. it will be compatible. shopping for a motherboard? there you might have issues. check new motherboards for VT-d / IOMMU capability. |
| 21:11.34 | rich2 | i removed everything i could for cups, avahi, networkmanager and still get the issue |
| 21:11.45 | g00se | I didn't mean you rich2, but actually it probably applies to you too ;) |
| 21:11.57 | rich2 | where should I be going #netfilter? |
| 21:12.09 | g00se | Not sure |
| 21:12.30 | metallic | klys: I don't want to buy anything, I want to compile an OS and the computer seems to disagree |
| 21:12.46 | klys | metallic, are you using a cross-compiler? |
| 21:12.57 | metallic | I don't know what that is |
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| 21:13.14 | metallic | I am doing it by the author-recommended way |
| 21:13.18 | metallic | by using SCons |
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| 21:14.53 | n-st | there doesn't seem to be a separate channel about package building/backporting, so i'll try my luck here: i'm trying to backport the `apt` package from ubuntu vivid to precise and compiling it fails with "relocation R_X86_64_PC32 against symbol `pkgProblemResolver::This' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC" even though that object file has been compiled with -fPIC (and `file` shows it is in fact relocatable). |
| 21:14.53 | n-st | what am i missing here? compilation log at http://pastebin.com/NKLc3FXf |
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| 21:18.17 | klys | n-st, grep This file.cc |
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| 21:19.17 | n-st | klys: and then? |
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| 21:20.12 | klys | n-st, try to remove it from the file and use something else that does the same thing |
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| 21:21.37 | klys | http://paste.debian.net/224714/ http://paste.debian.net/224777/ |
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| 21:24.28 | n-st | klys: from what little i understand after skimming the code, it looks like that file provides the pkgProblemResolver class (which is in turn used by other parts of the program), so i doubt removing it will be an option
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| 21:25.12 | n-st | and the very same code seems to compile somewhere, somehow, otherwise we wouldn't have a functional apt package in the repos
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| 21:28.17 | klys | n-st, get the apt source code for precise and check for differences in that file. |
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| 21:33.28 | linuxthefish | why is network unreachable? |
| 21:33.40 | linuxthefish | it works fine on eth0 using DHCP, yet wireless fails |
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| 21:34.12 | Smeggie | is it possible to have xfce and i3 combined? |
| 21:34.31 | Smeggie | having i3 on one half of the desktop |
| 21:34.38 | Smeggie | xfce on the other half |
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| 21:40.31 | linuxthefish | urgh DHCP in debian is just broken |
| 21:41.17 | blixten | yes, i accidentally did a ninja punch on it yesterday |
| 21:41.22 | blixten | have been broken since :( |
| 21:42.33 | g00se | And yet somehow not on eth0 ,,, strange |
| 21:43.19 | linuxthefish | yeah dhcp for eth0 assigns an IP fine, and adds the default route yet for wlan0 it does not add any routes |
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| 21:43.24 | foul_owl | How do view the debian installation log during the install process? |
| 21:44.08 | g00se | And you think that must be Debian's fault? |
| 21:44.21 | linuxthefish | foul_owl ctrl alt F2, then in /var/log/syslog |
| 21:44.24 | linuxthefish | i think! |
| 21:44.26 | foul_owl | thanks!! |
| 21:44.34 | linuxthefish | g00se yes, what else could it be?? |
| 21:44.43 | rich2 | so is debian spyware now? |
| 21:45.18 | rich2 | loopbacks = redirections, network mapping |
| 21:45.39 | g00se | Yes, what with all this spying and being selective about DHCP, perhaps we'd better all chuck it |
| 21:45.46 | linuxthefish | oh |
| 21:46.02 | rich2 | ifif I can't stop the dam linux from sniffing port 631 even when i remove anything that has to do with printers from the system, what shouldit be? |
| 21:46.14 | rich2 | what could it be? |
| 21:46.24 | rich2 | is it big brother sniffing everyoines networks? |
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| 21:46.50 | rich2 | i might as well use windows then no? |
| 21:47.00 | rich2 | at least in windows i can shut off the auto printer discovery lmao |
| 21:47.08 | rich2 | but of course windows has other problems... |
| 21:47.16 | g00se | It must be that the NSA has developed an unhealthy interest in CUPS |
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| 21:47.27 | rich2 | g00se: i just explained to you cups is gone |
| 21:47.40 | rich2 | but yes the nsa can use that as a guise for a printer, when really they just want to map your network |
| 21:48.09 | linuxthefish | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4PpH6wZ5 is bad DHCP log... |
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| 21:48.39 | linuxthefish | and if i then unplug the ethernet cable if ifdown eth0, and SSH to 172.16.0.15 i can't ping 8.8.8.8 |
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| 21:48.47 | linuxthefish | or ifdown eth0* |
| 21:49.07 | dvs | /sbin/resolvconf: 191: /lib/resolvconf/libc: cannot create /etc/resolv.conf: Permission denied |
| 21:49.16 | dvs | it's all DHCP's fault! |
| 21:49.27 | blackpenguin | rich2: "netstat -tnlp" should show you which process is listening |
| 21:49.35 | rich2 | blackpenguin: nothing is listening |
| 21:49.37 | rich2 | its shortlived |
| 21:49.44 | rich2 | happens every 5 mins on the dot |
| 21:49.59 | rich2 | right now i'm oin mint-cinnamon, they just banned me for complaining about this |
| 21:50.06 | rich2 | but it happened to me on debian 8 gnome too |
| 21:50.11 | blackpenguin | Oo |
| 21:50.15 | rich2 | the process in cinnamon is cinnamon-settings |
| 21:50.25 | rich2 | but its very shortived a second every 5 minutes |
| 21:50.54 | rich2 | i uninstalled cups, avahi, networkmanager, everything i could in the synaptic ripped out, to the point I don't even have a printer settings in the settings menus anymore |
| 21:50.59 | rich2 | and yet, i still see the packets every 5 minutes |
| 21:51.18 | linuxthefish | dvs even with resolvconf fixed i still get network unreachable |
| 21:51.32 | rich2 | linuxthefish: put the dns in the interfaces |
| 21:51.41 | rich2 | if you disabled networkmanager |
| 21:51.53 | linuxthefish | rich2 i'm not using DNS, just pinging 8.8.8.8 |
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| 21:52.25 | dvs | so pinging doesn't involve DNS |
| 21:52.31 | rich2 | blackpenguin: is it wrong for me to want to control every aspect of my pc? isn't that what linux is alla bout? |
| 21:52.43 | linuxthefish | correct dvs, so the network should be reachable |
| 21:52.46 | blackpenguin | rich2: it is. |
| 21:53.00 | rich2 | blackpenguin: so then your saying we might as well be using windows? |
| 21:53.03 | linuxthefish | ip r shows "172.16.0.0/16 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 172.16.0.15" :( |
| 21:53.04 | flexd | So, I have been having a weird problem.. if I click a link in a terminal window (sakura), a chrome incognito instance opens the link, as well as two tabs of file:///opt/google/chrome-unstable/google-chrome-unstable |
| 21:53.25 | flexd | this happens even if I have a normal chrome session open, and only with unstable.. it started happening a while back :s |
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| 21:54.19 | rich2 | so this is great, linux maps all our home networks now and there is nothing we can even do to stop it except maybe compile our own kernel |
| 21:54.22 | blackpenguin | rich2: no, that's not an option. I wonder if you can find out what happens. it should be stoppable. |
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| 21:54.44 | rich2 | blackpenguin: what do you mean find out what happens? i know what happens i just don't know how to stop it |
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| 21:55.35 | blackpenguin | rich2: but it must be stoppable. it's a process doing this, so you should be able to stop it by killing that process |
| 21:55.45 | rich2 | the process is cinnamon-settings |
| 21:55.53 | rich2 | i'm not soure what the process was in debian-gnome but the same issues |
| 21:56.25 | rich2 | i mean if I kill cinnamon settings then i have no settings lol |
| 21:56.35 | blackpenguin | rich2: I see. so you probably would need to patch the source to avoid it? maybe changing the window-manager is a better option? |
| 21:56.40 | rich2 | i ripped the printers option out of cinnamon-settings, yet the packets still occur |
| 21:56.45 | g00se | "sniffing port 631" means what exactly? And how do you know? |
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| 21:57.10 | rich2 | g00se: what what do those packets normally mean? are you being rhetorical or asking a serious question? |
| 21:57.18 | rich2 | it usually means looking for the cups-browser |
| 21:57.19 | linuxthefish | oh come on DHCP just set default gateway to 0.0.0.0, FINE i will just use bloody post up command... |
| 21:57.21 | g00se | The latter |
| 21:57.25 | rich2 | for the cups webrowser |
| 21:57.28 | rich2 | which I don't have |
| 21:57.35 | rich2 | thats the legitimate use for that |
| 21:57.52 | g00se | I know what port 631 is for |
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| 21:58.36 | blackpenguin | but maybe its some malicious code trying to leak something, using a well known port to avoid filtering. (no likely, but thinkable) |
| 22:00.48 | RichN | you might not have sudo pkg installed |
| 22:01.21 | RichN | sorry late on that |
| 22:02.08 | rich2 | g00se: so what is it your asking, how its a security risk? |
| 22:02.23 | TJ- | rich-: For CUPS: "....Clients are listening for server broadcasts arriving at port 631. From this info they build their list of available printers and cache it for a certain time (defaults to 5 minutes, to allow the bridging of individual update broadcast not coming through). ..." |
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| 22:05.18 | g00se | I was asking how you knew "sniffing" was going on |
| 22:05.51 | rich2 | because thats what it is |
| 22:07.26 | g00se | I've had a strong suspicion that some of my mail software has been sniffing port 25 |
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| 22:09.11 | rich2 | g00se: well lets say ou didn't have any mail software |
| 22:09.26 | rich2 | didn't use any mail at all, yet you still saw those packets, is that a red flag for you? |
| 22:09.56 | g00se | Not if i had a desktop or even anything beyond a minimal install |
| 22:10.47 | rich2 | so you would be cool with mysterious packets going on port 25 from unkown shortlived processes, interesting |
| 22:11.02 | rich2 | you would just throw your hands up and say, "hey i'm on a desktop, i'm fkd anyways" |
| 22:11.04 | rich2 | lol |
| 22:11.42 | woshty | Got a new problem, my wlan0, managed by network-manager "forgets" its ipv4 address. |
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| 22:11.53 | g00se | You must have missed the previous person's post ... |
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| 22:12.01 | g00se | i.e. TJ-: |
| 22:12.18 | woshty | lease time might be up, but dhclient does not renew but just drops address - not even a 169.x |
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| 22:12.57 | blackpenguin | rich2: as you already identified the responsible piece of software, I see a few options for you. not using cinnamon but something behaving more sane, change the behaviour of cinnamon or maybe even just filter that traffic using iptables. |
| 22:14.13 | rich2 | blackpenguin: i have the same issue with kde, or debian 8 |
| 22:14.25 | rich2 | debian 8 gnome i had same issue |
| 22:14.39 | stefkos | thxhmm I want to remove old .deb installation files |
| 22:14.42 | stefkos | how to do that? |
| 22:14.45 | g00se | .. and of course don't complain when your desktop print config breaks |
| 22:15.03 | blackpenguin | rich2: maybe using something less complex solves this for you. it's not that kde/gnome are the only choices. |
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| 22:15.05 | g00se | aptitude clean |
| 22:15.37 | stefkos | thx |
| 22:15.51 | rich2 | it doesn't happen on fedora lxde i know that |
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| 22:16.19 | blackpenguin | rich2: I guess it doesn't happen with lxde on debian neither then |
| 22:17.54 | rich2 | does debian have an lxde iso? |
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| 22:19.17 | shay_shay | hello |
| 22:19.31 | shay_shay | rich2: yes |
| 22:19.33 | blackpenguin | rich2: you can just install lxde (it's not a matter of what an ISO has) but yes, I think there is a debian based livesystem using lxde, too |
| 22:19.38 | g00se | aptitude install task-lxde-desktop |
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| 22:21.02 | shay_shay | what is the problem, what doesnt fedora xfce do that debian something-something does? tl;dr |
| 22:21.12 | shay_shay | er, fedora lxde |
| 22:22.44 | shay_shay | ah, it doesnt force you to use evil cups |
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| 22:26.08 | boydmcree | how do I install netbeans and jsdk8 on debian I am new to all this |
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| 22:29.11 | g00se | aptitude install openjdk-7-jdk netbeans |
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| 22:31.06 | boydmcree | thanks |
| 22:31.37 | g00se | ( Or openjdk-8-jdk ) |
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| 22:32.20 | boydmcree | i will try that thank you |
| 22:33.36 | g00se | You could also download Netbeans separately. You'll probably get a more recent version |
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| 23:01.09 | eindoofus | hi, i'm installing debian and was wondering what is a lightweight desktop environment for it? just need to be able to open up a browser to copy/paste key into bitbucket |
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| 23:01.24 | g00se | fluxbox? |
| 23:01.51 | Mikko- | try xfce |
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| 23:02.02 | eindoofus | will do. thanks |
| 23:02.38 | g00se | What's wrong with wget -O - http://foo.txt | grep key |
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| 23:03.01 | eindoofus | this is strange. i also have the option of checking "debian desktop environment" and "xfce". is that what xcfe already is? |
| 23:03.33 | eindoofus | whats the option of "debian desktop environment" for in that case? |
| 23:03.33 | g00se | No. The default is afaik still Gnome |
| 23:04.03 | eindoofus | so installing "debian desktop environment" installs gnome? |
| 23:04.17 | g00se | Yes. At least it used to |
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| 23:04.49 | eindoofus | if i only select "xfce" will it use "xfce" by default? |
| 23:05.22 | g00se | Probably ;) I don't recognise that as an installer ... |
| 23:05.48 | Mikko- | eindoofus: yes |
| 23:05.57 | eindoofus | cool |
| 23:06.01 | g00se | I use xfce, but then my requirements are much more extensive than yours |
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| 23:07.41 | g00se | And you don't need a desktop for your reqs. Only a windowing env and arguably not even that |
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| 23:11.20 | kline | hi, im trying to get a user service working, and im getting the following error: https://gist.github.com/AbstractBeliefs/4d9ad52ecf11540b65cd |
| 23:11.54 | kline | also in there is log output from journalctl and the unit file itself. can anyone make the error message more clear to me? |
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| 23:12.29 | centrx | kline, Access denied - need to be root? |
| 23:12.59 | kline | centrx, im under the impression the whole point of user services is that single users can spin up and down their own non-root services |
| 23:13.11 | centrx | oh okay, sorry I'm not very familiar with systemd |
| 23:13.13 | kline | (while running it as root, it cant find the unit file as well) |
| 23:13.34 | kline | no worries, thanks for the input |
| 23:14.15 | kline | i suspect the issue is probably close to that, i just dont know either what exactly needs tweaked to satisfy the current "must be root to start xyz" and "must be user to find user services" issue |
| 23:14.40 | quarterback | Anybody familiar with msmtp here? |
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| 23:21.57 | g00se | How about sudo systemctl --root=/home/kline start pushnotify.service |
| 23:22.34 | kline | "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1" |
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| 23:23.18 | g00se | Just a guess ;) I don't know systemd either. That's why i use Wheezy |
| 23:23.50 | kline | heh, thanks anyway :) |
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| 23:36.06 | kline | centrx, needed to add --user to get user-local stuff running in the end |
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| 23:36.56 | hassoon | strange |
| 23:37.16 | hassoon | when i entered sudo service networking stop; my connection worked fine again |
| 23:37.41 | hassoon | it has been unable to operate for a while |
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| 23:48.09 | foul_owl | Hi folks. How can I list all possible preseed commands? I've seen the example preseed, but there is no way to list netcfg/* for example... |
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| 23:50.00 | blackflow | Are there any adverse effects of running /tmp noexec? I just ran apt-get upgrade and there was a permission failure to exec /tmp/udev.config.something |
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| 23:57.32 | nutron | good channel to discuss debian on rpi or odroid? |
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