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| 00:02.07 | azmodeus | I was told that the virtual network was better configured as only-host network for not creating issues or interferences with the local network offered by my isp. this is why I configured a virtualnet as only-host networking for my server guest. |
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| 00:03.09 | azmodeus | As now I am seeing, the node assumes the second useful IP of the virtualnet (that starts from 192.168.56.101 for the server and 102 for the node... subnet mask is 255.255.255.0 so it is some kind of scope of the virtualnet) |
| 00:03.17 | somiaj | azmodeus: yea, a bridge means you may need to get different ip's from your isp, so that could be an issue, unles of course you put your network behind a router which then has a dhcp server. |
| 00:03.45 | azmodeus | it is what I did then :) a bridge! |
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| 00:03.58 | somiaj | azmodeus: note I am a bit of a novice here, but if you use libvirt they have ways to configure a virtual network and I don't think it requires you actually run a dhcp server sepertally. |
| 00:04.27 | somiaj | azmodeus: so you are bridging the virtual machines so they are all on the same network as the router and rest of machines on your network? |
| 00:05.07 | azmodeus | aomiaj, I am a bit of a novice here and all around too =D I am doing this as a task given from a kind of master that told me to do this for learning |
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| 00:06.35 | azmodeus | btw I am a bit confused... Uhmmm, the server is bridged, and I am running only another machine in the same moment. I tried it connected to the same virtualnet. then I tried it connected to an internal virtual net with the second network board of the server.. but in this case it didn't connect to nothing. |
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| 00:07.01 | azmodeus | in the case of the same virtualnet it is still having the IP that I don't want it takes. |
| 00:07.51 | somiaj | azmodeus: yea I don't think I can be of much help except to point out you could have libvirt manage this. |
| 00:07.52 | azmodeus | but now I am taking another look at the dhcp.conf that was setted up the first time using the values of my local network. |
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| 00:09.22 | azmodeus | somiaj, it is not a problem! I always enjoy to chat a little. btw it is that I don't really need the dhcp server, nor I need to work from command line. It is just like an exercise and I don't have to use gui, tools that makes things easier, help of any sort if I am not asking something specific =) look at this like a little game. it is what I am playing. |
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| 00:10.33 | azmodeus | thanks anyway! the thing I wanted to discuss was about the .conf file that I am figuring some kind of problem there. Maybe I can ask you if you do know if the broadcast IPs always are setted on the x.x.x.255? |
| 00:13.43 | somiaj | azmodeus: that is what i usually see it set to |
| 00:14.34 | Brigo | azmodeus, broadcast ip is almost always x.x.x.255. Unless you use a subneting. |
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| 00:15.46 | rjsalts | azmodeus: use ipcalc, e.g. ipcalc 192.0.2.0/24 |
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| 00:17.41 | azmodeus | Brigo, thanks, and is x.x.x.254 always set up for the routers? |
| 00:17.53 | azmodeus | rjsalts, is ipcalc a shell command? |
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| 00:18.11 | Brigo | azmodeus, no, i think it is x.x.x.1 |
| 00:18.46 | azmodeus | Brigo, hmm... It maybe is better to change the conf file... |
| 00:18.52 | rjsalts | azmodeus: aye, apt-get install ipcalc |
| 00:19.03 | azmodeus | rjsalts, going to do it now :D |
| 00:19.12 | rjsalts | azmodeus: if you're working with ipv6 subnetting then sipcalc might be more useful |
| 00:19.53 | rjsalts | but it's not as simple to use as ipcalc |
| 00:20.09 | azmodeus | rjsalts no, I am actually working with ipv4 so that should be ok |
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| 00:20.51 | azmodeus | I think I crashed up my distro >.< |
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| 00:23.43 | SonikkuAmerica | STUPID RIGHT-CLICK! |
| 00:23.45 | StanleyGoodman | dpkg, you are little tiny bits of magnetism on a hard drive. nothing more. a bath in salt water and you would be no more. |
| 00:23.45 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 00:23.50 | SonikkuAmerica | lol |
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| 00:24.27 | azmodeus | a lot of impossible resolve bla bla bla... >.< |
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| 00:24.51 | azmodeus | rjsalts, I cannot actually try ipcalc |
| 00:25.13 | azmodeus | I can't even update apt-get |
| 00:25.31 | StanleyGoodman | anyone here work for DHS or DoD? |
| 00:26.01 | dvs | puts on his tin foil hat |
| 00:27.06 | skilz | How do I change back from xfce4 to fluxbox? When I type 'startx' now it starts xfce4 |
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| 00:27.36 | StanleyGoodman | dvs, if you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear |
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| 00:28.10 | azmodeus | ok enough for tonight... I will try to fix the server thing tomorrow :D bb people... see you all |
| 00:28.35 | somiaj | skilz: modify your .xsession file (or create one) |
| 00:29.09 | somiaj | skilz: you could also play with the alternative system to set the default but I usually suggest modifing your .xsession file. |
| 00:29.39 | skilz | Thanks somiaj, do I use 'start fluxbox' or 'fluxbox' in .xsession? |
| 00:29.49 | head8debian | Or start lightdm as root, but that can be a pain. |
| 00:29.56 | head8debian | Well, inconvenience. |
| 00:30.11 | somiaj | skilz: you write the actual command you need to run to start it, such as '/usr/bin/fluxbox' or whatever the binary is called to start |
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| 00:30.32 | skilz | I also use dwm |
| 00:30.51 | head8debian | use which fluxbox to find its install location. |
| 00:31.11 | quixote_ | just got on and see azmodeus says something about server. Is there hope debian servers are coming back up any time soon? |
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| 00:36.28 | StanleyGoodman | how do i enable logging of systemd shutdown? |
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| 00:41.05 | StanleyGoodman | when i shut down, I just get a flashing "_" and after about two minutes it powers off |
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| 00:42.35 | StanleyGoodman | hey why does this folder not exist? /usr/lib/systemd/system-shutdown |
| 00:42.51 | StanleyGoodman | shouldn't I have that folder? |
| 00:43.27 | somiaj | StanleyGoodman: what makes you think you should have that folder? |
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| 00:44.01 | somiaj | StanleyGoodman: check /lib/systemd/ |
| 00:44.02 | RoyK | somiaj: perhaps since it's there on redhat? ;) |
| 00:44.05 | StanleyGoodman | online guides |
| 00:44.14 | StanleyGoodman | yeah I just found it in /lib/systemd |
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| 00:50.05 | somiaj | StanleyGoodman: note most likey you don't want to put things in /lib/systemd but put things in /etc/systemd for system configurations. |
| 00:51.13 | somiaj | though I don't see a /etc/systemd/system-shutdown, and unsure if systemd looks there for this paticular info. |
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| 00:53.15 | StanleyGoodman | I'm just putting a debug command there as per some guides... normally I would put scripts in /etc/init.d/ and a ln -s in /etc/rc0.d |
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| 01:00.33 | AlexLikeRock | help |
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| 01:01.59 | roberth1990 | anyone here familiar with iwlwifi? |
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| 01:03.50 | AlexLikeRock | roberth1990, this its a firmware of intel |
| 01:03.50 | AlexLikeRock | what about roberth1990 ?? |
| 01:03.50 | AlexLikeRock | nedd help to install ? |
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| 01:04.16 | roberth1990 | its the driver but its the firmware I have a question about |
| 01:04.25 | AlexLikeRock | ask |
| 01:04.40 | roberth1990 | does firmware later than version 9 work with kernel 3.16? |
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| 01:05.16 | AlexLikeRock | they appear at debian testing |
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| 01:05.55 | roberth1990 | huh? I just downloaded it manually, and I am about to cp it over to /lib/firmware if it will work... |
| 01:06.10 | roberth1990 | got it from https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/iwlwifi |
| 01:06.51 | AlexLikeRock | try install by apt |
| 01:06.57 | AlexLikeRock | aptitude update |
| 01:07.07 | AlexLikeRock | aptitude instastall firmware-iwlwifi |
| 01:07.08 | roberth1990 | I am not on testing |
| 01:07.18 | AlexLikeRock | were are you ? |
| 01:07.22 | roberth1990 | stable |
| 01:08.12 | episage | #docker How to recreate data containter with extra -v flag without losing data? |
| 01:08.29 | pencilandpaper | roberth1990, copy your old /lib/firmware folder in to your downloads folder or something to have on stash just in case the new firmware doesnt work with that kernel man. |
| 01:08.31 | AlexLikeRock | roberth1990, they exist at stable too |
| 01:08.39 | pencilandpaper | that way you can copy it right back and be in good shape. |
| 01:08.42 | AlexLikeRock | take a look https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-iwlwifi |
| 01:09.03 | roberth1990 | AlexLikeRock: yes but I am having issues with that one |
| 01:09.08 | roberth1990 | I want to try a newer one |
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| 01:09.35 | roberth1990 | pencilandpaper: why cant I just copy the ucode file to the folder? it doesnt replace anything in there |
| 01:09.36 | AlexLikeRock | like what..? |
| 01:09.54 | roberth1990 | the firmware exists in multiple versions |
| 01:10.07 | roberth1990 | 7-9 is in stable and testing and sid |
| 01:10.24 | roberth1990 | while I can get up to version 13 if I download and copy the file to /lib/firmware |
| 01:10.37 | AlexLikeRock | aptitude instastall firmware-iwlwifi |
| 01:10.39 | pencilandpaper | it will overwrite whatever is there already roberth1990 . |
| 01:11.04 | pencilandpaper | correct, so in overwriting it with a newer version it will essentially replace your older version that you are using now. |
| 01:11.08 | roberth1990 | pencilandpaper: do you mean that multiple firmwares which arent named the same will conflict each other? |
| 01:11.26 | roberth1990 | they arent named the same |
| 01:11.38 | roberth1990 | AlexLikeRock: that doesn't give me a newer version of the firmware |
| 01:11.50 | pencilandpaper | no, but if there are any that ARE named the same it will overwrite those ones with a different version. |
| 01:12.06 | pencilandpaper | o ok roberth1990 , i was just suggesting it to be safe..thats all. |
| 01:12.30 | roberth1990 | pencilandpaper: yeah that is true, but it isnt the case, since the name of the ucode file contains the version number |
| 01:13.12 | roberth1990 | okay, lets try this... |
| 01:13.17 | roberth1990 | brb |
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| 01:14.38 | soundtoxin | is there anything obvious/common that fucks up fonts and themes from a Jessie to Stretch upgrade? My Firefox fonts look bad, and VLC looks worse both in fonts and interface. |
| 01:14.50 | soundtoxin | Not even necessarily just Jessie to Stretch, I swear I've seen this before, probably Wheezy to Jessie. |
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| 01:19.18 | dami0 | so, is there a list somewhere of all the important files needed in a debian package to desscribe what goes where to do what and where the actual executables, data, configs etc. are meant to go? |
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| 01:20.48 | roberth1990 | looks like iwlwifi refuses to load the latest version of the firmware |
| 01:21.41 | RoyK | not realtek? |
| 01:23.01 | roberth1990 | wat? |
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| 01:31.46 | roberth1990 | stupid intel who isnt having any backwars compatibility on their firmware grrrr |
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| 01:33.36 | dami0 | or to rephrase my question, is there any way to simply go from a built package (as in, the tarball) to a debian package? |
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| 01:35.06 | twiggz | a tarball usually isnt what i would call a built package... |
| 01:35.25 | dami0 | that's what i seemed to understand from the intro/how to |
| 01:35.27 | Brigo | dami0, yes it is. Read the debian manual, or the package build manual. |
| 01:35.48 | dami0 | is there a manpage i could read specifically? |
| 01:39.24 | Brigo | dami0, i doubt it, it is to complicated for a man page. |
| 01:40.06 | dami0 | damn |
| 01:40.37 | dami0 | i was hoping i could get by with minimal work |
| 01:40.52 | dami0 | since i didn't have much in terms of files |
| 01:41.02 | Brigo | dami0, what files do you have? |
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| 01:41.16 | dami0 | a few scripts and binaries, plus configs |
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| 01:42.33 | Brigo | do they need special (root) access? |
| 01:42.45 | dami0 | no |
| 01:43.18 | themill | dami0: does it have a sane build system that manages to make;make install (or similar) for you? |
| 01:43.32 | Brigo | when you add a script not from debian you should put it in ~/bin or /usr/local/bin |
| 01:44.02 | Brigo | if you creates a debian package it will put the script -or binary- in /usb/bin |
| 01:44.09 | dami0 | one of them has a make, the rest is literally singular scripts with configs |
| 01:44.20 | dami0 | makefile*, but it only builds |
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| 01:44.40 | Brigo | the configuration file should be in the user home directory and for system wide config file /etc |
| 01:44.51 | themill | The better polished the build system is, the easier it is to make a package. |
| 01:44.54 | dami0 | but they're manageable by hand, so i was wondering if i could get a list of what i specify where |
| 01:46.03 | Brigo | dami0, as i said it is not easy. For example, an executable could be placed in /bin, /sbin/ /usr/bin or /usr/sbin. |
| 01:46.38 | Brigo | a library its ever more complex. |
| 01:46.41 | dami0 | /bin and /sbin are for core utilities and boot stuff, so it would probably go in /usr/*bin |
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| 02:03.32 | rarepeople | hi |
| 02:04.37 | rarepeople | i installed nvidia 304.xx legacy drivers for my gpu nvidia quadro fx 3500, following this guide https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 02:05.20 | rarepeople | and now my pc don't show gui, when it is expected to show login screen, it just show black screen with a blinking cursor on upper left side |
| 02:06.04 | rarepeople | i can go to tty by Ctrl+Alt+F1 , but i don't know what do i do there? |
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| 02:08.36 | rarepeople | i'll brb in 2 minutes |
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| 02:13.22 | rarepeople | i'm back, sorry for that, did anyone reply to me? |
| 02:14.32 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: no one replied to you |
| 02:15.21 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: do you know what should i do? |
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| 02:17.31 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: you could try using smxi to install your gpu drivers |
| 02:17.40 | phleagol | Question: forums.debian.net has been unable to connect for last few days. Is this just for me, or are debian forums down for everyone plz? |
| 02:17.55 | soundtoxin | phleagol: I noticed the same a few days ago, haven't checked recently |
| 02:18.01 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: drop into a TTY, then do sudo su - |
| 02:18.04 | soundtoxin | cd to /usr/sbin |
| 02:18.19 | soundtoxin | then do wget -Nc smxi.org/smxi.zip && unzip smxi.zip && smxi |
| 02:18.21 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: yes? and then? |
| 02:18.34 | soundtoxin | then follow the steps, it asks you questions, fairly simple |
| 02:18.54 | soundtoxin | when you get past the initial updates there should be a "continue to graphics" option |
| 02:18.58 | phleagol | soundtoxin: thnx |
| 02:19.07 | RoyK | soundtoxin: or sudo -i |
| 02:19.08 | soundtoxin | phleagol: no problem, you'll probably want nvidia-current when it asks btw |
| 02:19.37 | soundtoxin | RoyK: I'm basically quoting an old guide I used, why mess with what works? I've ran into a small handful of things that care about you being root instead of sudo at times |
| 02:20.22 | soundtoxin | oh I see that really does do the same thing, thanks RoyK |
| 02:21.06 | rarepeople | it says the scrove smxi from where it was, /usr/sbin to where it belongs: /usr/local/bin/smxi,ipt will m |
| 02:21.34 | rarepeople | the script will move smxi from where it was, /usr/sbin to where it belongs: /usr/local/bin/smxi |
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| 02:22.40 | rarepeople | it didn't ask any questions, it just moved the smxi from /sur/sbin to /usr/local/bin/smxi |
| 02:22.50 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: thanks for telling me that for future reference, just run smxi again as root now |
| 02:22.54 | rarepeople | should i re run it from new localtion? |
| 02:22.58 | soundtoxin | it's in the $path |
| 02:23.00 | soundtoxin | just run smxi |
| 02:23.41 | soundtoxin | it used to have you put it in /usr/bin and I remembered that changed so /sbin was actually kind of a guess |
| 02:24.10 | rarepeople | ok it says you cannot run smxi with sudo, run it properly with root, just for info :) |
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| 02:25.16 | rarepeople | so now it is running with only su , not sudo su |
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| 02:27.22 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: it wants me to set apt-get or aptitude ? which one? |
| 02:27.44 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: the script does updates for you at the start |
| 02:27.46 | soundtoxin | it's asking which one you want used |
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| 02:28.02 | rarepeople | i'm new in linux, i set apt-get i suppose? |
| 02:28.18 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: if that's what you use, yeah. I do apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade so that's what I chose |
| 02:28.21 | rarepeople | that is what i use for installations |
| 02:28.25 | soundtoxin | then yes |
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| 02:29.21 | rarepeople | now which one? dist-upgrade / upgrade / continue / exit |
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| 02:30.55 | rarepeople | is it asking me to upgrade debian full? i'm already using debian 8.1 ? |
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| 02:31.52 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: sorry for late reply |
| 02:31.57 | soundtoxin | dist-upgrade is what I would choose |
| 02:31.58 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: i am waiting |
| 02:32.20 | soundtoxin | the difference is that upgrade only updates existing things and dist-upgrade is more powerful, it can remove old packages and things |
| 02:32.38 | soundtoxin | maybe someone else can explain it better but I would dist-upgrade |
| 02:32.57 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: it will remove all my softwares i intalled and their settings from /home ? |
| 02:33.05 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: no |
| 02:33.13 | soundtoxin | it's just like upgrade but does additional things |
| 02:33.22 | soundtoxin | your debian version isn't going to change |
| 02:34.15 | rarepeople | ok i chosen debian stable, now ask me for dctrl-tools, yes? |
| 02:34.21 | soundtoxin | yes |
| 02:34.52 | rarepeople | now it's doing it's thing, what is it doing? installing my vga drivers? |
| 02:34.58 | soundtoxin | not yet |
| 02:35.03 | soundtoxin | just updating packages probably |
| 02:35.16 | soundtoxin | this is kind of an all-in-one sorta tool, even though I mainly use it for the gpu drivers |
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| 02:37.24 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: Continue with dist-upgrade / Continue without doing the dist-upgrade |
| 02:37.30 | soundtoxin | continue with |
| 02:38.44 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: use-install-f / dist-upgrade-again / check-services / continue / exit |
| 02:38.57 | soundtoxin | continue |
| 02:39.09 | rarepeople | it says above, your dist-upgrade appears to have completed with nno errors |
| 02:39.09 | soundtoxin | now you should see continue to graphics probably |
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| 02:39.42 | themill | It would have been so much easier to just do that with apt rather than sxmi... and now I remember why we don't support that thing in #debian |
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| 02:40.01 | soundtoxin | themill: we didn't even get to the gpu driver part yet, the part it makes easier |
| 02:40.27 | soundtoxin | anyway I struggled with gpu drivers for a long time before finding smxi so it's what I usually recommend to people |
| 02:41.03 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: i went by continue, now : package-install / package-removal / clean-up-stuff / miscellaneous-tweaks / virtual-machine-installer / kernel-options / continue-to-graphics / start-desktop / quit |
| 02:41.14 | soundtoxin | continue to graphics |
| 02:41.29 | soundtoxin | if nvidia-current is a choice, choose it |
| 02:41.37 | soundtoxin | if it asks to make you a xorg.conf file, say yes |
| 02:41.56 | sumyunseal | gtx960 not suported |
| 02:42.02 | sumyunseal | :( |
| 02:42.19 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: install-xorg-nouveau / debian-nvidia / 5xxx-nvidia / 6-7xxx-nvidia / nvidia-beta-driver / start-desktop / quit |
| 02:42.26 | soundtoxin | hm |
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| 02:42.37 | somiaj | sumyunseal: do you know what version of the nvidia blob that supports that card? |
| 02:42.39 | soundtoxin | if there is no nvidia-current I would go with nvidia-beta-driver |
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| 02:43.17 | somiaj | ,v nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 02:43.18 | judd | Package: nvidia-kernel-dkms on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 195.36.31-6squeeze2; squeeze-backports/non-free: 295.59-1~bpo60+2; wheezy/non-free: 304.125-1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 340.65-2~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 340.65-2; stretch/non-free: 340.76-2; sid/non-free: 340.76-2; experimental/non-free: 343.36-1 |
| 02:44.20 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: my card is nvidia quadro fx 3500, when i used that guide and ran nvidia-detect, it showed me my recommended driver is 304.xx, but that didn't work for me thats why i came here |
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| 02:44.40 | rarepeople | do you think i go with beta driver? would it support my card? |
| 02:44.41 | sumyunseal | im using proprietary |
| 02:44.44 | sumyunseal | beta |
| 02:44.47 | sumyunseal | latest |
| 02:44.47 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: yes, that is what I recommend |
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| 02:45.01 | soundtoxin | I have a ThinkPad with similar GPU to that and smxi worked fine for installing the driver |
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| 02:45.19 | sumyunseal | nvidia broke my sound |
| 02:45.23 | sumyunseal | :((( |
| 02:45.28 | sumyunseal | damit |
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| 02:46.45 | dabbad00 | I tried to remove golang from my system using `apt-get purge golang` and install the latest version but when I run `go version` it says `/usr/bin/go: No such file or directory` and it should be running `go` from `/usr/local/go/bin/go` which is the output of `which go`. How do I get the shell to run `go` from the correct place? |
| 02:46.55 | sumyunseal | i forgot to not buy such a new card |
| 02:47.11 | themill | dabbad00: hash -r |
| 02:47.18 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: after selecting beta driver, the graphics installer will be installing the nvidia driver: 304.125, there is no current beta driver for your nvidia card type. using the current stable driver instead, |
| 02:47.31 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: sounds fine to me |
| 02:47.38 | dabbad00 | themill, thank you!! |
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| 02:47.44 | sumyunseal | works on windows hahaha |
| 02:47.53 | sumyunseal | wth |
| 02:48.49 | sumyunseal | 4k everything small |
| 02:48.52 | sumyunseal | -.- |
| 02:49.11 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: please select from the following options: <enter> - hit enter key to continue with nvidia driver install (default) | i + <enter> - add/configure ia32-libs-i386 before doing the driver install. this lets things like openGL 32 bit apps and Steam work smoothly with your 64 bit nvidia driver. | x + <enter> - exit now if there is an error. |
| 02:49.21 | somiaj | sumyunseal: yea the driver in experimential would support the 980gtx, but you would have to backport this if you are running jessie. |
| 02:49.52 | sumyunseal | ya but |
| 02:49.58 | sumyunseal | nvidias driver no sound |
| 02:50.11 | somiaj | sumyunseal: In this case you may have to just use the nvidia blob, just realize that upgrades may mess with it, and keep an eye out for when a support version enters debian. |
| 02:50.28 | sumyunseal | lel |
| 02:50.43 | sumyunseal | the card is already out |
| 02:50.47 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: which one i select? |
| 02:50.48 | somiaj | sumyunseal: what do you mean by no sound? It will probabaly just add another sound card, cat /proc/sound/cards, you probabaly now have a hdmi sound card for the card to. Are you wanting hdmi sound from that card or from something else? |
| 02:50.52 | sumyunseal | how it no worky |
| 02:51.10 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: type i and press enter |
| 02:52.38 | sumyunseal | system seting sound is all blank |
| 02:52.55 | sumyunseal | before i log in there is soun d |
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| 02:53.32 | somiaj | again identify what sound card you want to use, and then configure your system to use it. It could be you have to configure pulseaudio what sound card it should use by default, if you don't use pulseaudio, then configure alsa. |
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| 02:53.56 | pokergod | if I have an ip, is there a way to see which device it will be routed thru? or do people just .. netstat -nr and look it up? |
| 02:54.16 | somiaj | pokergod: traceroute? |
| 02:54.40 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: apt-get update successful. Continuing... | there is a problem in APT currently. Unable to install ia32-libs-i386:i386. Continuing | try running sgfxi again in a day or two and the issue should be resolved. | creating /usr/src/sgfxi-downloads to store driver downloads in... | moving all existing nVidia data files to /usr/src/sgfxi-downloads... | Please take note of the updated location for the downloaded drivers. | plese hit enter to continue |
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| 02:55.03 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: that's fine, you don't need to paste everything, everything is going pretty normally |
| 02:55.13 | pokergod | somiaj, what i'm trying to do is... mega->work ... I openvpn into mega, and then I want the 10.* routes to work on my laptop. laptop(openvpn)->mega->work ... but the 10.* seems to route locally |
| 02:55.25 | soundtoxin | that i option is just to make it work with 32bit stuff like steam |
| 02:55.46 | somiaj | pokergod: route will list teh local routes on the server you are in, I'm a bit unfamilar with vpn and only know the basic tools. |
| 02:55.51 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: unfortunately i'm typing all that by hand from another pc :( |
| 02:56.10 | rarepeople | just to get my pc working with nvidia drivers |
| 02:56.25 | sumyunseal | wtf |
| 02:56.42 | sumyunseal | download nvidia.run |
| 02:57.43 | rarepeople | now it's downloading things |
| 02:57.58 | rarepeople | sumyunseal: you talking to me? about nvidia.run? |
| 02:58.06 | sumyunseal | ya |
| 02:58.08 | sumyunseal | y |
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| 02:58.18 | sumyunseal | y u asking |
| 02:58.40 | somiaj | you shouldn't use the driver from nvidia.com, get it from debian's repos so it is integrated into the debian system. (of course there are exceptions if the card you have is not supported). |
| 02:58.49 | somiaj | !tell rarepeople about nvidia dkms |
| 02:58.52 | rarepeople | problem with that is when i go to nvidia site for drivers and fill up all the boxes for my vga, it shows me latest driver to download, and i know that driver don't support my card |
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| 02:59.03 | somiaj | rarepeople: what card do you have? |
| 02:59.30 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: did the install finish yet |
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| 02:59.50 | rarepeople | somiaj: i already have done that, i used this guide exactly as it said, and end up with no gui after reboot, https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 03:00.08 | rarepeople | somiaj: i'm using nvidia quadro fx 3500 |
| 03:00.20 | somiaj | rarepeople: what card do you have if the current nvidia doesn't support it? You may nee4d a nvidia-legacy driver. |
| 03:00.35 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: it's downloading packages now i guess, it's about 40% progress now |
| 03:01.08 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: this is gonna sound weird since we're all on Debian, but sometimes the arch wiki is more updated than the debian wiki so as far as wikis go I would check both |
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| 03:01.28 | rarepeople | somiaj: yes, nvidia-detect told me i should use 304.xx driver, and i followed that guide to install nvidia 304.xx legacy driver, but ended up in a black screen |
| 03:01.47 | sumyunseal | yep |
| 03:01.51 | sumyunseal | were all on debian |
| 03:01.54 | sumyunseal | yey |
| 03:02.03 | sumyunseal | \o/ |
| 03:02.26 | sumyunseal | im staring at my 4K now on debian |
| 03:02.27 | themill | rarepeople: precisely what did you do? |
| 03:02.34 | sumyunseal | doing nothing |
| 03:02.36 | sumyunseal | yey |
| 03:02.46 | sumyunseal | so nice |
| 03:02.47 | themill | sumyunseal: perhaps you could do nothing while not making unhelpful noise here. Thanks |
| 03:03.06 | sumyunseal | ok |
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| 03:04.16 | rarepeople | themill. i followed that guide exactly word by word, u wanna know what i do? i installed nvidia-detect to detect my vga and it's correct drivers, then added non free sources to repos, and then i used this command to download and install driver aptitude -r install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') nvidia-legacy-304xx-kernel-dkms |
| 03:04.43 | themill | rarepeople: and did that successfully build the module? |
| 03:04.47 | sumyunseal | coz u need to follow wat i said |
| 03:04.54 | rarepeople | then i installed nvidia-xconfig and ran it with sudo and then restarted mypc |
| 03:05.05 | somiaj | rarepeople: also you need to create a small xorg.conf file. |
| 03:05.08 | sumyunseal | ya xconf probly killed it |
| 03:05.14 | rarepeople | themill: i saw no errors, all was successful |
| 03:05.44 | sumyunseal | only leave the device part |
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| 03:06.06 | sumyunseal | look at ur xorg.0.log |
| 03:06.16 | somiaj | rarepeople: just use a simple xorg.conf file, http://paste.debian.net/229299/ -- that should be enough to boot up with the nvidia driver. |
| 03:06.43 | rarepeople | wait, currently i'm following soundtoxin , after that if my problem not solved then i'll move to another recommendations |
| 03:06.59 | themill | rarepeople: you're currently making an interesting mess |
| 03:07.31 | soundtoxin | themill: he's making it sound overly complicated by typing everything it asks him instead of just answering it himself |
| 03:07.36 | soundtoxin | it takes under 3 mins normally |
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| 03:07.57 | rarepeople | i'm new to linux |
| 03:09.15 | sumyunseal | wat |
| 03:09.17 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: 100% |
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| 03:10.28 | rarepeople | it's still blinking |
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| 03:10.51 | themill | soundtoxin: no, smxi is completely unsupportable. I'm hoping that *you* are going to be around to support rarepeople's graphics issues forever more because #debian will not be able to. |
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| 03:13.24 | rarepeople | hey, who is dpkg ??? a bot? |
| 03:13.27 | sumyunseal | omfg |
| 03:13.45 | sumyunseal | i have sound in counter strike |
| 03:13.57 | sumyunseal | nice |
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| 03:15.22 | rarepeople | soundtoxin: after downloading 100% it's still blinking, hopefully it's doing something? or stuck? |
| 03:15.46 | soundtoxin | rarepeople: probably stuck, hit ctrl-c and run it again |
| 03:15.51 | soundtoxin | I've never had it get stuck twice |
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| 03:15.58 | soundtoxin | and now that you know what to pick for everything it should only take like 30 seconds |
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| 03:18.14 | fred1807 | my rc.local works, if I test it from command line (bash /etc/rc.local) . Everything works... but the sync script (a sync job using python's boto-rsync) |
| 03:18.45 | fred1807 | my rc.local works, if I test it from command line (bash /etc/rc.local) . *On real Boot process: Everything works... but the sync script (a sync job using python's boto-rsync) |
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| 03:20.24 | themill | fred1807: which release of debian? which init system? |
| 03:20.36 | fred1807 | raspbian wheezy |
| 03:20.45 | fred1807 | initserv i guess?? |
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| 03:21.21 | themill | You'd do better off asking the #raspbian people. |
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| 03:28.27 | TJ- | fred1807: usually that is due to differences in the shell used at boot time... which is usually just sh, not bash, or the environment (variables) available at boot time |
| 03:28.30 | rarepeople | themill: what solution do you have for me? |
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| 03:29.47 | fred1807 | TJ-: I am calling the application, with absolute path: /usr/local/bin/boto-rsync folder 1 folder 2 . I have a .sh script that is this line. And I call this .sh script from rc.local, with a absolute path too... |
| 03:30.13 | fred1807 | .sh and rc.local have shebang. And both work from cmd line |
| 03:32.09 | TJ- | fred1807: in rc.local are you calling the script *before* the "exit 0" line? |
| 03:32.29 | fred1807 | yes, and I deleted the exit 0 line now... |
| 03:32.41 | fred1807 | it wasnt working with the exit 0 line btw |
| 03:33.18 | TJ- | fred1807: rc.local is required to explicitly return 0 exit code |
| 03:33.40 | fred1807 | ok will include that... Btw, rc.local is the last guy? |
| 03:33.52 | fred1807 | I am sure he is running with network already on? |
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| 03:34.38 | TJ- | fred1807: this is on raspian? |
| 03:34.45 | rarepeople | somiaj: i already have that file configured by nvidia-xsettings |
| 03:34.45 | fred1807 | yes |
| 03:34.50 | TJ- | fred1807: /etc/rc.local has its execute bits set? |
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| 03:35.30 | fred1807 | I dont knwo what execute bits are.. You say, /etc/init.d/rc.local ? |
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| 03:35.49 | TJ- | fred1807: "ls -l /etc/rc.local" |
| 03:35.54 | StanleyGoodman | hey....... how do I boot with specific debug options? |
| 03:36.21 | TJ- | fred1807: You can test the execution as a service using "sudo /etc/init.d/rc.local start" and monitor how it works/doesn't work |
| 03:36.43 | fred1807 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 337 Jun 15 00:34 /etc/rc.local |
| 03:36.50 | fred1807 | root is the only user on my install |
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| 03:40.04 | TJ- | fred1807: OK, the eXecute bits are set. Therefore, test the script as I suggested and see if that works. If it does, then it would look like a difference in shell environments between boot and logg-edin user |
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| 03:43.18 | rmzelnick | howdy |
| 03:43.29 | rmzelnick | I'm looking for debian offtopic |
| 03:43.48 | jelly | !offtopic |
| 03:43.48 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 03:44.19 | rmzelnick | jelly, thank you |
| 03:44.29 | StanleyGoodman | !debug |
| 03:44.29 | dpkg | DeBuggers $1 |
| 03:44.56 | rmzelnick | btw I'd like to share something to you, today I have uninstalled systemd from my Jessie install, and I have noticed quite a drop in RAM usage |
| 03:45.42 | StanleyGoodman | lol. how do I boot with debug options? |
| 03:45.56 | StanleyGoodman | you uninstalled systemd and you can still boot? |
| 03:45.56 | jelly | debug options for what? |
| 03:46.06 | StanleyGoodman | systemd.log_level=debug systemd.log_target=kmsg log_buf_len=1M enforcing=0 |
| 03:46.11 | rmzelnick | jelly, I believe StanleyGoodman is talking about the kernel? |
| 03:46.20 | StanleyGoodman | those are the debug options I am supposed to use |
| 03:46.44 | StanleyGoodman | https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/Debugging/#index2h1 |
| 03:47.31 | jelly | StanleyGoodman: temporarily? In the grub menu, press 'e' to edit the menu entry, then add options at the end of the linux ... line |
| 03:47.55 | StanleyGoodman | sounds good. |
| 03:48.51 | jelly | StanleyGoodman: if you want them to persist, edit /etc/default/grub, add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="..." and run update-grub afterwards |
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| 03:49.35 | jelly | StanleyGoodman: https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging |
| 03:49.58 | StanleyGoodman | jelly: much appreciated. |
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| 03:52.46 | rarepeople | no one to help me now? :( |
| 03:53.44 | rmzelnick | rarepeople: what's the problem? |
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| 03:55.06 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: i used this guide to install my nvidia 304.xx driver, but after reboot i don't get to login screen but i end up on black screen with a cursor blinking on upper left corner of screen. guide https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 03:55.44 | rmzelnick | sure thing, allow me to take a look |
| 03:55.53 | rarepeople | as said in that guide, i used nvidia-detect to see my card and it's suggested driver, it shown me 304.xx driver |
| 03:56.25 | rmzelnick | rarepeople: what is your version of debian? what gfx card do you have? |
| 03:56.34 | rarepeople | i'm using debian 8.1 64bit, my card is nvidia quadro fx 3500 |
| 03:56.48 | rarepeople | lol coinsident o.O |
| 03:57.51 | rmzelnick | have you blacklisted nouveau? |
| 03:58.09 | rarepeople | nope, that guide didn't tell that |
| 03:58.53 | rmzelnick | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_340.65 |
| 03:59.00 | rmzelnick | item 3 |
| 03:59.15 | rmzelnick | look at the xorg server configuration file link |
| 03:59.17 | rarepeople | when i installed nvidia driver, it said this will conflict with nouveau driver, the solution is to reboot, so i used nvidia-xsettings to create xorg.conf file and rebooted, then i |
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| 04:00.37 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: yes i went there too, and i used that automatic part, through nvidia-xsettings |
| 04:00.54 | rmzelnick | so is nouveau blacklisted? |
| 04:01.12 | rarepeople | i don't know, how can i check that? |
| 04:01.24 | rmzelnick | under /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 04:01.31 | rmzelnick | check to see the files there |
| 04:02.11 | rarepeople | im in that folder now, which file to check? |
| 04:02.15 | rmzelnick | if there isn't a nouveau-blacklist.conf file there, create one with the contents "blacklist nouveau" |
| 04:02.48 | rmzelnick | then you shall reboot your computer |
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| 04:03.39 | rarepeople | there is not with the exact you said, but there is a file that is, "nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf" and "fbdev-blacklist.conf" and "amd64-microcode-blacklist.conf" and "intel-microcode-blacklist.conf" |
| 04:04.06 | somiaj | rarepeople: did you ever paste your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file so we can maybe have some idea what isn't loading correctly. |
| 04:04.20 | rmzelnick | what are the contents of nvidia-blacklists-nouveau.conf? |
| 04:05.20 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: that file has "blacklist nouveau" in it |
| 04:05.33 | rarepeople | thats the only line without # in that file |
| 04:05.38 | rmzelnick | good, so nouveau is indeed blacklisted |
| 04:05.59 | rmzelnick | so we now need to analyze Xorg.0.log from /var/log |
| 04:06.03 | rarepeople | somiaj: how can i paste it??? i'm on commands |
| 04:06.16 | rmzelnick | there's a program for pastebin |
| 04:06.44 | rmzelnick | apt-get install pastebinit |
| 04:07.13 | rarepeople | done, now? |
| 04:07.17 | rmzelnick | after installing, run "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log", the output will be a link to the paste |
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| 04:07.30 | rmzelnick | give us that link |
| 04:07.51 | phix | rmzelnick: Who is us? |
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| 04:08.08 | rmzelnick | somiaj and me |
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| 04:15.45 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: sorry i got d/c, http://paste.debian.net/229479 |
| 04:18.21 | rarepeople | omg |
| 04:18.28 | rarepeople | power cable not attacked |
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| 04:19.45 | somiaj | rarepeople: also look at the warnings on line 40 and 41, you should only use the small xorg.conf file I linked you a few hours ago and not the one generated by xconfig you ran, that is a bit outdated of a method for xorg.conf files. |
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| 04:20.17 | somiaj | rarepeople: it looks like it is setting the keyboard and mouse manually but due to the new xorg features is then being diabled, again you should only need like 4 lines in your xorg.conf file to tell it to use the nvidia driver, nothing else should be needed. |
| 04:20.33 | rarepeople | i just shutdown and attached the power cable, let me see if that was the real issue |
| 04:20.47 | rmzelnick | it appears to be that |
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| 04:21.15 | rmzelnick | it could be a problem with configuration too, right somiaj? |
| 04:21.23 | rarepeople | ahh, how can i not attached the power cable, :/ |
| 04:21.40 | rarepeople | ahahaha my login screen come up now :D |
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| 04:22.50 | rarepeople | but my display only has 640x480 resolution ? |
| 04:23.27 | somiaj | rmzelnick: there is a configuration option you can give it to disable hotplug and use the config settings, but it is just easier to not write a complete config file if you don't need it (in most acses you won't) |
| 04:23.48 | somiaj | again check the Xorg.0.log file and check what it is doing |
| 04:23.54 | fred1807 | how can I see exactly the same boot messages I see on screen, during boot? dmesg in not the same |
| 04:24.32 | somiaj | fred1807: is this wheezy or jessie? |
| 04:24.39 | fred1807 | wheezy |
| 04:25.35 | rarepeople | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/229525/ |
| 04:25.37 | somiaj | fred1807: I think the issue is you are seeing output from various things not the just the kernel, I'm unsure if it is stored in any log file, anything in paticualr you looking for, check the corresponding log file in /log |
| 04:26.18 | fred1807 | dont oyou think that would be a nice feature? |
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| 04:27.19 | somiaj | rarepeople: for some reason it can't read the EDID info from your monintor to determine correct settings. You can give it custom settings, or a custom edid but this requires configuging the xorg.conf file. |
| 04:27.49 | fred1807 | I need to find why I see these messagens on boot: activatin swap....done and activiatin swapfile.... done ? If I dont have swap file, or any swap file packages installed as far as I know |
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| 04:28.15 | rmzelnick | rarepeople: post your xorg.conf |
| 04:28.18 | somiaj | fred1807: Again what you are you looking for? Daemons/services are going to log their info in a different place than the kernel message (dmesg). |
| 04:28.19 | rmzelnick | paste* |
| 04:29.11 | fred1807 | somiaj: I need to understand why I see "activating swap....done" If I dont have installed swap, I removed swap, I dont want swap :/ |
| 04:29.15 | rarepeople | somiaj: rmzelnick: http://paste.debian.net/229536/ |
| 04:29.32 | somiaj | fred1807: I think it says that message even if it activates no swap files. do you see anything in 'cat /proc/swaps' |
| 04:29.55 | BuzzardBuzz | swap is your friend though i would think, why would you not want any swap? |
| 04:30.01 | rmzelnick | rarepeople: are you running a CRT monitor? |
| 04:30.09 | fred1807 | thats all on swaps: FilenameTypeSizeUsedPriority |
| 04:30.13 | fred1807 | zero |
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| 04:30.29 | somiaj | fred1807: i.e. the script says hey I'm going to active swap partitions, then reads though fstab to determine which ones to activate, and then say it is done doing it (even if it finds no enteries to mount a swap file it will still exit 0 like it did what it was told to) |
| 04:30.32 | fred1807 | BuzzardBuzz: raspberry on sd card, no writes |
| 04:30.39 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: it is hp 1702 LCD, don't know if its CRT or not |
| 04:30.55 | rarepeople | don't know what is CRT btw |
| 04:31.02 | rmzelnick | It's LCD then, CRT are those huge old monitors |
| 04:31.04 | fred1807 | somiaj: Can I gently remove this script from existence on my system? |
| 04:31.44 | rmzelnick | rarepeople: remove lines 34,35 and 36 from your xorg.conf |
| 04:31.49 | rmzelnick | let xorg do the work |
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| 04:32.35 | rmzelnick | this should do it |
| 04:32.54 | somiaj | I wouldn't, but see no reason why that message should matter much. You could try to track down the actual script that is saying it, maybe in /etc/init.d/ and comment the echo's out if that is what it is doing (just a guess) |
| 04:33.22 | fred1807 | somiaj: Where can I remove this swap script And the script that cleans tmp files? Both dont have any yse on my system (ro) and every second counts on my boot time |
| 04:33.34 | somiaj | fred1807: ^^ but by default it will always check for swap partitions so in the future if you add one you can just add it to /etc/fstab and it is workign just fine now as it is correctly not mounting any swap partitions because you haven't defined them. |
| 04:33.37 | rmzelnick | fred1807: systemd or sysvinit? |
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| 04:33.53 | somiaj | fred1807: and also if you are running raspbian over debian you really are in the wrong place for support. |
| 04:34.04 | somiaj | fred1807: I personally wouldn't just leave it alone, it is doing no harm. |
| 04:34.05 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: done, now reboot? or something else? |
| 04:34.18 | fred1807 | every milisecond counts |
| 04:34.20 | somiaj | but yes you can modify the actual scripts if that is what is causing this output (which is my guess as to what is) |
| 04:34.21 | rmzelnick | yup |
| 04:34.54 | rmzelnick | rarepeople: reboot, if an error occurs paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log again |
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| 04:35.14 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: ok |
| 04:37.51 | rarepeople | rmzelnick: perfect :) |
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| 04:38.30 | rarepeople | ahh, it was so simple when experts are available, and you are... thank you so much |
| 04:38.56 | rarepeople | and also thank you to somiaj :) |
| 04:39.07 | somiaj | rarepeople: or if you would have just deleted the xorg.conf file and put the four lines I pasted you, no need to have that extra stuff |
| 04:39.20 | somiaj | unless you have some undstarndard hardware that isnt' detected correctly |
| 04:39.25 | rmzelnick | hehe |
| 04:39.48 | rmzelnick | rarepeople: you're welcome, enjoy your debian installation |
| 04:41.24 | rarepeople | i have my full resolution now, linux is very simple but need knowledge. so i will learn it all :) |
| 04:42.08 | rmzelnick | I hate the annoying nvidia logo, you can remove that if you want to |
| 04:43.14 | rarepeople | where is that logo? |
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| 04:44.17 | rmzelnick | when you boot up just before starting X |
| 04:44.36 | rmzelnick | s/before/after |
| 04:44.43 | rarepeople | i don't see it, i'm using cinnamon |
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| 04:45.24 | rmzelnick | awesome then |
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| 04:58.10 | StanleyGoodman | alright.... I have a re-occuring problem that I can't debug... when I shut down, all I see is "_" for two minutes before the the PC actually turns off. I can't seem to log any issues here in syslog, or through other methods. It is not a kernel issue - it is a systemd issue. |
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| 04:59.16 | StanleyGoodman | I know it is not a kernel issue, because "sync && poweroff -f" works properly |
| 04:59.56 | tpanarch1st | hello is anyone around :) |
| 05:00.05 | tpanarch1st | oh looking at timings the answers yes :-p |
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| 05:00.16 | StanleyGoodman | yep |
| 05:00.17 | tpanarch1st | I was just wondering if anybody knows how to check which hard drive is booted |
| 05:00.27 | tpanarch1st | I have one that is 500gb and 1 that is 1tb |
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| 05:00.46 | tpanarch1st | both with the same Proxmox install on it so they should be a CC of each other :) |
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| 05:03.35 | civillian | tpanarch1st: df -h |
| 05:04.25 | tpanarch1st | civillian: from the output, how do I deduce which one is booted :-) |
| 05:04.27 | tpanarch1st | thanks! |
| 05:04.34 | StanleyGoodman | yeah that doesn't help |
| 05:04.44 | StanleyGoodman | that just lists partitions |
| 05:04.53 | StanleyGoodman | his partitions will be the same on both drives |
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| 05:05.51 | tpanarch1st | yeah its a tricky one! |
| 05:06.01 | tpanarch1st | not made any easier by my bios! |
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| 05:06.09 | tpanarch1st | biased bios :-D |
| 05:06.22 | StanleyGoodman | got it |
| 05:06.29 | StanleyGoodman | fdisk -l |
| 05:06.34 | StanleyGoodman | must use root/sudo |
| 05:06.51 | civillian | but that doesn't tell you which one is mounted |
| 05:06.55 | civillian | you need both |
| 05:06.55 | StanleyGoodman | lol |
| 05:07.18 | tpanarch1st | eeeek |
| 05:07.36 | StanleyGoodman | this is correct. with both, you should be able to deduce it |
| 05:07.46 | tpanarch1st | well - this is fdisk -l |
| 05:07.47 | tpanarch1st | http://pastebin.com/g0dFTPjt |
| 05:08.29 | tpanarch1st | and this is df -h http://pastebin.com/SkgT98J0 :-) |
| 05:10.10 | fred1807 | a nice command to clear the screen and hide hostname / blinking _ ..... ? |
| 05:10.15 | StanleyGoodman | it appears you have booted from /dev/sdb, - the 500gb |
| 05:10.21 | tpanarch1st | StanleyGoodman: uggghhh |
| 05:10.23 | tpanarch1st | :) |
| 05:10.25 | tpanarch1st | thanks |
| 05:10.31 | tpanarch1st | how did you deduce it :) |
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| 05:10.51 | StanleyGoodman | the 1tb drive doesn't have mounted partitions detected by fdisk |
| 05:11.10 | StanleyGoodman | wait... |
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| 05:14.16 | tpanarch1st | StanleyGoodman: what you thinking :) |
| 05:14.21 | StanleyGoodman | yeah lol |
| 05:14.40 | tpanarch1st | ah it's just you said wait |
| 05:14.44 | tpanarch1st | :) |
| 05:14.59 | StanleyGoodman | I completely lost confidence in my answer |
| 05:15.07 | tpanarch1st | oh do you have confidence again? |
| 05:15.10 | tpanarch1st | or are you unsure :) |
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| 05:17.38 | StanleyGoodman | I am still not sure, but I would assume it is /dev/sda, which has a disk identifier of 0x00000000 |
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| 05:18.11 | StanleyGoodman | that said, someone will come along that will know a command that can make this easy |
| 05:19.25 | StanleyGoodman | yeah and they both have disk identifiers of 0x00000000.... I have no confidence in this answer, other than to say "/dev/sda" is "probably" the one |
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| 05:22.54 | tpanarch1st | StanleyGoodman: thanks, so you would say i'm on the 1tb or the 500 :-D |
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| 05:24.30 | StanleyGoodman | 1tb, but I don't have a high degree of certainty. reading a man page. |
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| 05:25.03 | StanleyGoodman | man findmnt |
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| 05:28.41 | StanleyGoodman | what does "findmnt -D" say? |
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| 05:29.24 | StanleyGoodman | does it list one or two instances of /boot under Target? |
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| 05:30.38 | tpanarch1st | StanleyGoodman: i'll check this for you :) |
| 05:30.47 | tpanarch1st | i just ended up in the middle of a test when you replied again :-) |
| 05:30.48 | folivora | I am planing to upgrade from wheezy -> jessie, got one question. I do have postgresql 8.3 installed, will upgrade to jessie upgrade this or does it stay on version 8.3 |
| 05:30.51 | tpanarch1st | so i may have changed it :) |
| 05:31.07 | tpanarch1st | im just going to run the commands above again and compare the output :) |
| 05:31.22 | StanleyGoodman | ok |
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| 05:36.11 | StanleyGoodman | i think comparing the output of fdisk -l and findmnt -D will give you the answer |
| 05:37.03 | StanleyGoodman | I find it unlikely that rebooting would have changed the result of fdisk -l |
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| 05:42.55 | tpanarch1st | StanleyGoodman: no its not that, i have two instances of proxmox in grub |
| 05:43.04 | tpanarch1st | i thought it might have altered the output of the commands above :) |
| 05:43.19 | tpanarch1st | by going into each of the instances in grub in turn |
| 05:43.28 | tpanarch1st | but they appear exactly the same |
| 05:44.34 | StanleyGoodman | so what does findmnt -D say? |
| 05:44.44 | StanleyGoodman | are there two instances of /boot under the Target heading? |
| 05:45.38 | tpanarch1st | findmnt -D is an invalid command StanleyGoodman |
| 05:47.40 | StanleyGoodman | try as root? |
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| 06:03.33 | tpanarch1st | StanleyGoodman: i ran it as root :) |
| 06:03.55 | tpanarch1st | just made sure that the cables were secure and I also tried changing the port on the motherboard :) |
| 06:04.02 | tpanarch1st | no avail |
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| 06:05.04 | StanleyGoodman | I officially give up. someone else help tpanarch1st. he has two drives of different sizes with cloned partitions, and he wants to know which one he booted from. |
| 06:05.23 | tpanarch1st | thanks so much though StanleyGoodman |
| 06:05.29 | tpanarch1st | sorry we didn't get further :) |
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| 06:13.59 | woshty | most times waking up from suspend, wifi is disabled. where would I put a script to switch it back on after resume? /etc/pm/sleep.d ? |
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| 06:19.09 | KingEdgar | if a piece of software I use isn't the version I Want, is it okay to just compile it and install it under /opt? |
| 06:19.22 | KingEdgar | instead of /usr/binwherever? |
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| 06:20.39 | KingEdgar | :c will i risk any breakage like that? |
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| 06:21.19 | themill | "that depends" |
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| 06:21.33 | KingEdgar | okay, that is as vague a questyion as I thought I'd get |
| 06:22.22 | themill | sticking something in /opt shouldn't be an issue but if you start trying to remove the packaged versions or put it on root's $PATH then you can have problems |
| 06:23.06 | KingEdgar | huh, remove the packaged version? or put it on root's $PATH? |
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| 06:23.27 | KingEdgar | Why would I have the packaged version installed if I installed a newer version? o-o |
| 06:23.55 | themill | this is why having conversations in the abstract doesn't work |
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| 06:40.22 | Haris | hello all |
| 06:40.45 | socomm | hello |
| 06:40.46 | Haris | why do you guys force only USA timezones' during install ? Why can't one choose any other timezone ? |
| 06:41.14 | Haris | I have re-set it on every new install |
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| 06:43.12 | socomm | Haris: You guy? Different time-zones can be selected. You just gotta pay closer attention at what you are selecting. |
| 06:43.21 | Haris | sorry, you guys+ |
| 06:43.23 | Haris | my bad |
| 06:43.34 | socomm | With taht said. Why anyone would want to live outside of the USA is beyond me. |
| 06:43.37 | socomm | ducks |
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| 06:45.40 | mcfrisk | Hi! How to update rootfs to a new encrypted disk on Debian? I created dm-crypt/luks partition, setup lvm, copied all data to new disk, setup new /boot as bootable, updated /boot/grub/devices.list/ and /etc/cryptsetup and /etc/fstab, updated initramfs images, updated-grub... But dm-crypt partition is not found at boot. |
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| 06:52.06 | frostschutz | mcfrisk, what's /etc/cryptsetup? |
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| 06:52.35 | Haris | should I use ex3 or ext4 for production LVM LVs ? |
| 06:53.10 | Haris | this is a web/api box. its a dedicated VM/server for api hits towards us |
| 06:53.47 | mcfrisk | frostschutz: I mean /etc/crypttab |
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| 06:54.17 | pvoigt | Initially I have been using an unencrpyted (plain) swap partition /dev/sda4 with gdisk code 8200 (GPT) on my Jessie system which is activated by systemd on boot. Today I have encrypted this swap partition using LUKS resulting in device mapper device /dev/mapper/crypt.swap.luks. On reboot this encrypted swap is successfully activated by systemd. Unfortunately, systemd still tries to additionally activate |
| 06:54.19 | pvoigt | former swap partition /dev/sda4 - which of course fails. What is the propper way to tell systemd not to activate /dev/sda4 anymore? |
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| 06:54.50 | Haris | there's still a debate going on about ext3 vs ext4, which is better for production |
| 06:54.55 | frostschutz | Haris, even ext2/3 are handled by ext4 driver nowadays so you're probably not avoiding kernel bugs if that's what you're worried about...? |
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| 06:55.05 | Haris | I see |
| 06:55.30 | Haris | does this mean, the box is going to be flapping in production with this driver ? |
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| 06:55.53 | frostschutz | pvoigt, is it still in your fstab? |
| 06:55.54 | Haris | api hits are run in campaigns. during those campaigns, I won't be able to afford it flapping |
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| 06:56.20 | pvoigt | frostschutz: No, /dev/sda is not in fstab anymore. |
| 06:57.28 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:57.31 | pvoigt | frostschutz: Sorry, meaning /dev/sda4. |
| 06:57.46 | Haris | I need a stable box. lol |
| 06:57.51 | frostschutz | Haris, "flapping"? ext4 is rather on the stable side of things, most people use it |
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| 06:58.40 | pvoigt | frostschutz: Instead I am now having /dev/mapper/crypt.swap.luks in fstab. |
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| 06:58.57 | frostschutz | pvoigt, what does file -s say for the encrypted partition? blkid? tried recursive grep sda4 in /etc (or its old uuid if it had one)? gotta be somewhere. update initramfs? |
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| 07:01.02 | pvoigt | frostschutz: Hm, did not yet updated initramfs. |
| 07:02.10 | deadalnix_ | why the fuck gnome depends on gnome-shell-extension-weather ? |
| 07:02.31 | deadalnix_ | especially since it is incompatible with gnome-shell 3.16 which is in unstable now |
| 07:02.34 | themill | deadalnix_: language, thanks. |
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| 07:02.44 | pvoigt | frostschutz: "file -s /dev/sda4" says: /dev/sda4: data and "file -s /dev/mapper/crypt.swap.luks" says: /dev/mapper/crypt.swap.luks: symbolic link to ../dm-0 |
| 07:03.35 | themill | deadalnix_: the definition of the gnome package is "everything upstream thinks should be installed". You don't need to install the gnome package to run gnome. If you don't like unsatisfiable dependencies, don't run unstable. |
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| 07:04.48 | deadalnix_ | themill, weather extension could ba a recomanded package, but a strong dependancy ? |
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| 07:06.34 | themill | deadalnix_: that is potentially awkward in upgrade situations hence the maintainers have specified Depends not Recommends. (There are also the people who turn off the installation of Recommends and then complain that things don't work which can waste a huge amount of developer time) |
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| 07:08.48 | deadalnix_ | themill, at the very least, it should be a dependancy of gnome-shell-extensions |
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| 07:08.55 | deadalnix_ | not the whole gnome thing |
| 07:09.10 | themill | as I said, the "gnome" package isn't required |
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| 07:18.06 | folivora | I am planing to upgrade from wheezy -> jessie, got one question. I do have postgresql 8.3 installed, will upgrade to jessie upgrade this or does it stay on version 8.3 |
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| 07:22.14 | RoyK | folivora: it'll upgrade postgresql, but that shouldn't be a problem |
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| 07:31.07 | folivora | RoyK: to which version ? |
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| 07:32.18 | pfote | folivora: to the most recent 9.4 |
| 07:33.16 | pfote | maybe you chould check with your apps before upgrading production .. some things have changed since 8.3 |
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| 07:34.18 | folivora | Í know that there will be changes, thats why I asked that if the upgrade will happen, then I need to rethink what can be broken after upgrade |
| 07:34.26 | folivora | Thanks for the help |
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| 07:35.57 | pfote | folivora: do you use binary stuff, bytea? one thing that broke here was the output format of these fields (but its configurable), that changed between 8.x and 9.x |
| 07:36.30 | pfote | folivora: but in general its a good idea to get rid of 8.3 .. its not supported anymore since quite some time now |
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| 07:36.38 | themill | postgresql 8.3 wasn't in squeeze or wheezy |
| 07:38.36 | Haris | whats' the package for sshd on debian latest ? (openssh-server ?) |
| 07:38.39 | Haris | what's+ |
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| 07:44.03 | bezaban | ,v openssh-server |
| 07:44.05 | judd | Package: openssh-server on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze5; squeeze: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze5; wheezy-security: 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u1; wheezy: 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:6.6p1-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:6.7p1-5; stretch: 1:6.7p1-6; sid: 1:6.7p1-6 |
| 07:44.36 | bezaban | indeed :) |
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| 08:02.20 | revolve | Having a problem with an irremovable directory, it is a network share that no longer exists |
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| 08:37.17 | at0m|c | revolve: what's rm -r return? |
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| 08:45.03 | Iridos | at0m|c, don't give dangerous advice |
| 08:46.26 | Iridos | revolve, umount -l /path/to/dir may remove the visible mount |
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| 08:47.00 | Iridos | else... wait for timeout ... or reboot |
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| 09:00.20 | petn-randall | lastlog at0m|c |
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| 09:29.40 | xplodwild | Hey there! I'm desperately trying to install Debian 8.1 on a Gigabyte Brix, which has a UEFI-only motherboard |
| 09:29.59 | xplodwild | Been following a few tutorials on the web, but I can't get the device to boot on my USB drive |
| 09:30.19 | xplodwild | I formatted it using Rufus (GPT mode, FAT32, using the latest netinst 8.1.0 ISO) |
| 09:30.35 | xplodwild | The boot/efi folder is there, with the aa64 file |
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| 09:30.45 | xplodwild | Secure Boot is disabled on the device |
| 09:31.04 | xplodwild | But... It still doesn't want to open up the installer :( |
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| 09:36.25 | themill | xplodwild: rufus is known to fail to copy images improperly |
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| 09:36.45 | xplodwild | Oh? |
| 09:37.00 | xplodwild | is there any other tool (windows or linux) to do that instead? |
| 09:37.11 | themill | for linux, cp works fine. |
| 09:37.22 | xplodwild | okay, let me try that |
| 09:37.30 | bstarek | unetbooting is ok |
| 09:37.37 | themill | no, unetbootin is crap |
| 09:37.42 | bstarek | or dd linux command |
| 09:37.47 | themill | xplodwild: the release notes explain how to do it |
| 09:37.55 | xplodwild | the main reason I used Rufus is because it sets the key with GPT automatically |
| 09:38.07 | bstarek | try dd |
| 09:38.37 | themill | xplodwild: and that's where it is going wrong |
| 09:38.49 | xplodwild | oh? |
| 09:38.59 | bstarek | sudo dd bs=4M if=XXX.iso of=/dev/sdX |
| 09:39.12 | xplodwild | don't you need the drive to have a GPT partition table to allow booting on UEFI? |
| 09:39.20 | xplodwild | thanks bstarek, trying now |
| 09:39.29 | themill | really... why would you want to use dd when you can use cp? |
| 09:40.21 | bstarek | this is how i personnally do it, i am not saying there arent other ways |
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| 09:41.09 | bstarek | dd and cp dont do the same thing |
| 09:41.41 | themill | they both do what is required here and cp does it with a much simpler command |
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| 09:42.49 | bstarek | i never wrote an iso or img to a device using "cp", but if you say it works.... |
| 09:42.59 | fossrox | Hi, I have a problem since several days and don't know how to work around it. When I'm trying to netinstall Jessie on one of laptops, it fails over and over in exactly the same place. I see then "Running dpkg 12%" - whole computer freezes then and nothing more happens. Only once i've managed to finish install on this box, but I'm reproducing the steps and cannot complete the install process. Can anyone help |
| 09:43.02 | fossrox | me please? |
| 09:43.11 | themill | dd has never been the documented way of copying the iso to a device. cp is. |
| 09:44.09 | fossrox | Even if I'm at other terminal, that one freezes as well and the cursor stops to blink. |
| 09:44.15 | ChrisH | fossrox: can you rule out any HW issue like defective memory? |
| 09:44.47 | bstarek | themill, ok. |
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| 09:46.05 | fossrox | ChrisH: i haven't yet tried, it's a new box with 8GB ram and ssd drive. I' will try to check the memory now, but have no idea how to test the ssd while it's inside (and cannot open the box due to warranty). |
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| 09:49.31 | fossrox | ChrisH: not sure if you replied because I've lost the connection. |
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| 09:52.05 | fossrox | I will be back in a while, noticed something strange... might be just a coincidence but have to check it. |
| 09:55.33 | xplodwild | bstarek: themill: No luck... Tried with DD and CP, won't boot |
| 09:55.53 | xplodwild | let me triple check the boot order, as there's an Ubuntu Mate already installed on the thing |
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| 09:57.14 | wysiwtf | helloes |
| 09:57.18 | ChrisH | fossrox: no additional reply from my side. If you switch to ALT-F4 when the failing step starts, can you see additional stuff there? Assuming non-graphical installer in place. |
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| 10:00.17 | wysiwtf | as it turns out after the last dist-upgrade on my vserver systemd-udev somehow borks and leaves me with an (almost) empty /dev dir |
| 10:00.37 | wysiwtf | cant even ssh in because of missing /dev/pty |
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| 10:00.48 | mcfrisk | hmm, unstable feeling unstable again since gdm3 is failing to start after moving system to a new disk... |
| 10:01.05 | wysiwtf | (running unstable here, too) |
| 10:01.54 | wysiwtf | is it a totally crazy idea to edit the sources.list with scp, replace "unstable" with "testing" and then shove another non-interactive dist-upgrade over ssh? |
| 10:02.08 | ChrisH | wysiwtf: did your issue happens on unstable? If yes: this is debian stable channel |
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| 10:02.28 | wysiwtf | ChrisH: ah ok - where is the unstable channel |
| 10:02.41 | wysiwtf | oops |
| 10:02.44 | wysiwtf | reading topics helpsa |
| 10:02.54 | wysiwtf | kk |
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| 10:05.07 | bg678 | Where can I find jessie installation images? |
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| 10:06.31 | themill | bg678: www.debian.org or as per /topic, /msg dpkg install jessie |
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| 10:07.18 | bg678 | I meant wheezy sorry |
| 10:07.30 | bg678 | cant seem to find any images on the FTP mirrors |
| 10:07.35 | themill | dpkg: tell bg678 about install wheezy |
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| 10:07.59 | themill | the installer images are not on the mirrors (they never are) |
| 10:09.57 | bg678 | ah thanks |
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| 10:16.54 | meseira | hi |
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| 10:20.16 | meseira | i am playing with cgroups and i am giving a way to chown some sub-sub-directories of /sys/fs/cgroup to give them to a user |
| 10:21.01 | meseira | i do not really understand how owning such a directory is harmless or not... :-° |
| 10:21.49 | meseira | up to you, is it a bad idea to let a specified user dealing with its own cgroup? |
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| 10:26.16 | anddam | how can I check the environment variable of my graphical session? (xfce with lightdm) |
| 10:26.25 | anddam | i.e. I want to print the environment without calling a shell |
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| 10:29.07 | anddam | namely I want to a) set the GNUsetp environment properly for my whole graphical session and b) have a mean to check the aforementioned environment without any shell in-between |
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| 10:36.46 | Haris | ah well |
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| 10:49.19 | anddam | https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables says that .profile should be read from default Xsession, I'd expect variables set there to be in my environment once I fire a shell instance but they aren't |
| 10:49.28 | anddam | what's the proper place to set env variable for graphical session? |
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| 10:54.37 | quarterback | Hi, how to clear cached memory in debian periodically? I ran a script but I got a permission denied error. The commane is below: sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches |
| 10:54.40 | quarterback | Command* |
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| 10:59.59 | quarterback | Hi, how to clear cached memory in debian periodically? I ran a script but I got a permission denied error. The command is below: sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches . Ideally, I am trying to setup a crontab which would run every hour to clear cached memory. Appreciate your insight in this, thanks! |
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| 11:01.04 | ksk | quarterback: why the .. would you drop caches every hour? do you want to decrease performance of your system? |
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| 11:01.40 | ksk | the linux disk caching is very smart and knows things. I doubt you know it better which pages to keep in cache and when to drop what |
| 11:02.07 | ksk | quarterback: see: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 11:02.19 | quarterback | ksk: Suddenly, cached memory occupied entire memory when I downloaded a 5 gb file. I want to decrease cache so that there would be free memory for incoming requests of my debian 7 server. |
| 11:03.42 | quarterback | Cache memory is reverting to zero,very slowly |
| 11:04.47 | ksk | dude, read the link I posted, and keep your fingers of the cache |
| 11:05.20 | quarterback | ksK: echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches this line gets a permission denied message. |
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| 11:06.05 | ElDiabolo | His. Is there a tool to build firmware images (for routers) from debian packages. The idea is to use the kernel from e.g. openwrt and to then get as much as possible from the debian repos. This is not debwrt, I don't want to have apt-get available on the router. |
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| 11:14.53 | carp | Hi, I installed a fresh wheezy about a month ago, only a couple of days before jessie stable was released. Im going to upgrade. In order to get wireless internet card working, i had to use ndiswrapper with a driver. I am not sure if i will have to plug an ethernet wire into my computer in order to do this upgrade and redo the ndiswrapper afterwards though. |
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| 11:16.11 | carp | Also, i am a beginner so may i double check things here as I go through this guide? https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 11:17.22 | tugrik | carp - definitely go with ethernet if at all possible |
| 11:17.41 | tugrik | and no harm asking in here :) |
| 11:18.19 | carp | tugrik: ok great |
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| 11:21.56 | quarterback | Is cached memory cleared gradually when server is left alone without any manual clearing? I read somewhere that clearing memory cache is not possible on a virtual machine.This can be done only with a reboot. |
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| 11:22.52 | babilen | quarterback: It will be used for something else |
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| 11:23.11 | ElDiabolo | quarterback, Don't worry, be happy. |
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| 11:23.20 | frozenthia | hi |
| 11:23.30 | babilen | quarterback: What are you concerned about or what are you trying to achieve? |
| 11:23.46 | frozenthia | i have a problem with wi-fi? can any one help? |
| 11:23.50 | quarterback | babilen: I see, usually my server occupies about 130 MB without cache when idle, cached increased to 700 MB with Disk IO. I see that cache is decreasing gradually. |
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| 11:24.10 | babilen | quarterback: You do have that memory, don't you? |
| 11:24.19 | bezaban | waits for someone to link that page. |
| 11:24.21 | babilen | dpkg: tell quarterback about free memory |
| 11:24.22 | quarterback | babilen: If there is too much memory used by cache, does it block http or ircd on my debian server? |
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| 11:24.50 | quarterback | babilen: Thanks |
| 11:24.58 | babilen | quarterback: Read the page linked in the factoid the bot just sent you in private. (this will also happify bezaban) |
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| 11:25.17 | babilen | Oh, it is not linked |
| 11:25.20 | bezaban | hehe, well it is actually quite informative :)= |
| 11:25.29 | babilen | http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 11:25.38 | quarterback | Yes, I've seen this page. |
| 11:25.43 | quarterback | What is swapawake? |
| 11:25.45 | kober | Hi, having issues with google compute engine VM using Debian, not sure but it might be something related to Debian Jessie. Problem is that it randomly crashed and this was the trace i was able to pull out: http://pastebin.com/sq4EMNPb any ideas? |
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| 11:26.21 | bezaban | quarterback: as you'll see you do not to be worried about your applications/services, as they will claim the memory they want and the kernel won't insist on keeping the disk cache |
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| 11:27.04 | quarterback | So it means that the applications will automatically release memory from being used for caching. |
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| 11:27.59 | RoyK | bezaban: looks like something you should tell google about |
| 11:28.51 | fhare | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:29.29 | dhaval2712 | The debian installer is stuck at 33%. I googled it and it did seem to be a bug, but I tried another iso and the results are the same. I don't have a RAID or anything such setup, I am merely trying to create a 75 GB partition. I tried wipefs'ing the disk as well. |
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| 11:30.08 | bezaban | quarterback: the kernel will manage the memory, but if an application requests more it will allocate if available, and the disk cache is considered available |
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| 11:30.27 | quarterback | I know how swap works |
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| 11:32.05 | babilen | dhaval2712: Anything interesting on tty4 (alt-f4) ? |
| 11:32.42 | bezaban | quarterback: the disk cache =! swap |
| 11:32.52 | bezaban | !=* |
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| 11:34.49 | dhaval2712 | Nope. Also, I tried deleting the old partition and trying again, which apparently is alright according to this bug:https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767682, Alt+F4 doesn't say that the HDD is failing at least. |
| 11:34.50 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/767682 in debian-installer (open, d-i): «D-I: installer hangs on re-formatting ext4 partition (having grub in the partition boot record).»; severity: important; opened: 2014-11-01; last modified: 2015-06-09. |
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| 11:35.44 | g00se | Can anyone think of a 'discreet 32 bit usb environment' methodology i can use on a 64 bit machine? |
| 11:36.21 | g00se | (I mean by that on a stick) |
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| 11:38.08 | dhaval2712 | It's been stuck for five minutes, which I think is odd for 75G |
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| 11:39.19 | micalm | Is there any place I can find per-package changelogs? |
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| 11:42.53 | damasceno | Hello everyone. I have one phisical interface and one virtual interface configured on my Debian server. I can't reach the gateway when I try to traceroute this specific IP from another network http://pastebin.com/PSkvXv5X if I try to traceroute any other IP it works. Does anyone know why? I only have one route (The default one). |
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| 11:47.24 | dhaval2712 | Anybody...? |
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| 11:48.05 | tyll | Is it possible to get the build logs for the current Debian unattended-upgrades package for jessie? |
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| 11:48.58 | dhaval2712 | damasceno: What is the gateway for your virtual interface? |
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| 11:49.18 | babilen | tyll: It is |
| 11:49.29 | tyll | I searched in buildd.debian.org, is this the only/correct source for build logs? I did not find it there |
| 11:49.39 | babilen | It would be, yueah |
| 11:50.47 | tyll | so if it is not there, then the maintainer built it locally and there are no build logs? |
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| 11:52.25 | babilen | yep |
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| 11:55.46 | dhaval2712 | Oh nevermind. Found it. |
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| 11:59.41 | Ironhand | hello, I'm running Jessie on a dedicated rented server; I just rebooted it after performing a bunch of security upgrades (and possibly other config changes since last reboot), the machine becomes pingable but refuses SSH connections even after half an hour, there are no large filesystems which might require checking |
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| 11:59.59 | Ironhand | I have no remote console, only a netboot rescue mode, how could I go about diagnosing the cause of the problem? |
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| 12:00.29 | Ironhand | it looks as though the root FS was never mounted after the reboot (log timestamps, tune2fs -l) |
| 12:00.31 | petn-randall | Ironhand: If you have kvm in the rescue mode, you can in a hacky way boot the server via kvm. |
| 12:00.53 | jelly | Ironhand: check logs (journald, syslog) for clues after mounting the system from rescue |
| 12:01.06 | petn-randall | Ironhand: It was something along the lines of 'kvm -hda /dev/sda -hdb /dev/sdb -console', let me find the blog post that explains it. |
| 12:01.16 | Ironhand | petn-randall: cool, thanks |
| 12:01.19 | jelly | Ironhand: it's weird it would answer to ping before root fs was even mounted |
| 12:01.32 | Ironhand | jelly: no logfiles modified inside the root FS... |
| 12:01.59 | jelly | ^^ this is why we use servers with remote console access |
| 12:02.03 | Ironhand | jelly: I expected that would be due to some networking stuff taking place inside initrd |
| 12:02.20 | Ironhand | yeah I know... but it's hard to find decent dedicated servers on a budget that support that |
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| 12:02.28 | jelly | yeah. $$$ |
| 12:03.35 | tyll | The unattended-upgrades maintainer published a broken build for Debian jessie that was probably built on Ubuntu and therefore uses the Ubuntu config file instead of the Debian config file. Is here some other Debian maintainer that can issue a rebuild on a Debian system to fix this? Related bugs are: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=787945 |
| 12:03.36 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/787945 in unattended-upgrades (open): «unattended-upgrades: Does not upgrade packages in jessie, only jessie-security»; severity: important; opened: 2015-06-06; last modified: 2015-06-06. |
| 12:03.38 | tyll | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=788066 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783690 |
| 12:03.39 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/788066 in unattended-upgrades (open): «unattended-upgrades: Security updates not installed since last upgrade of unattended-upgrades package»; severity: important; opened: 2015-06-08; last modified: 2015-06-10. |
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| 12:03.57 | petn-randall | Ironhand: It should be 'kvm -hda /dev/sda -hdb /dev/sdb -curses', assuming sda and sdb are your disks. I didn't find the blog entry, but that should boot your machine as a VM. |
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| 12:04.27 | Ironhand | petn-randall: thanks, I'll give that a try |
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| 12:05.07 | frostschutz | Ironhand, you could chroot it, check that apt finished its work properly, update initramfs just in case, check that /boot and bootloader config look okay. |
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| 12:05.36 | frostschutz | Ironhand, I also second the KVM idea, but I do this either readonly or with overlay |
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| 12:07.14 | frostschutz | and if your machine does not support kvm you can export the disks through nbd over ssh and run the kvm locally. will make for a slow boot process but if it runs into some error early on, it hardly matters |
| 12:07.17 | Ironhand | going with the chroot approach first as apparently my rescue system doesn't allow me to install arbitrary packages like kvm, so I'd have to debootstrap a new rescue system first :-\ |
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| 12:07.34 | Haris | hello all |
| 12:07.40 | Haris | what's the package for libpgsql-dev something ? |
| 12:07.41 | Ironhand | hmmm, never thought about the nbd idea, interesting tip, thanks |
| 12:07.54 | petn-randall | ,v libpgsql-dev |
| 12:07.55 | judd | No package named 'libpgsql-dev' was found in amd64. |
| 12:08.06 | petn-randall | Haris: There's no such package. See above. |
| 12:08.10 | Haris | pip is raising exception -> raise Exception, "pg_config tool is not available." |
| 12:08.31 | Haris | I installed the libmysqlclient-dev package for mysql_config. what's the one for pg |
| 12:09.14 | petn-randall | Haris: 'apt-file search pg_config' will return any packages that contain that file. |
| 12:09.34 | Haris | apt-file not installed |
| 12:10.01 | petn-randall | Haris: Then install it. |
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| 12:11.56 | Ironhand | petn-randall / jelly / frostschutz: after mounting everything and doing an update-initramfs -k all -u inside a chroot, the system appears bootable again - thanks for the ideas & advice |
| 12:12.16 | Ironhand | (shame I'll never know what broke it, but maybe I should look at installing dropbear in my initrd) |
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| 12:13.31 | Haris | bare minimum installs have their charm |
| 12:13.33 | Haris | :D |
| 12:13.42 | Haris | lots of saved disk space. clean boxes |
| 12:13.55 | jelly | Ironhand: this is one of the things ubuntu's ever-changing kernel ABI does better. There you almost always get a kernel package update with a different name, so the current kernel is still there and bootable |
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| 12:14.56 | Haris | is it libpq-dev, postgresql-common, or postgresql-server-dev-9.4 that has it ? apt-file lists them all |
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| 12:16.00 | Haris | which do I install ? I'm installing python requirements for django 1.5 on my server |
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| 12:16.10 | Haris | don't need it beyond that |
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| 12:17.13 | petn-randall | Haris: I'd guess pibpq-dev, but you error doesn't contain a path, so this is just a guess. |
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| 12:18.11 | Haris | got this error while installing -> Downloading/unpacking PyGreSQL==3.8.1 (from -r requirements.txt (line 26)) <- through pip |
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| 12:20.18 | lynxx | tahurel: meow |
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| 12:22.05 | jelly | eyes lynxx |
| 12:22.53 | themill | Haris: you do realise that django 1.5 lost security support about a year ago, don't you? |
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| 12:31.05 | g00se | Is it possible to add 32 bit support with minimal or zero effect on my environment by using external storage? |
| 12:34.48 | Arone | good question |
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| 12:36.35 | jelly | g00se: you can do it without external storage. What's the goal? |
| 12:36.43 | ChrisH | g00se: I cannot prove it, but I assume the answer is no. As adding 32bit as architecture results in installing a bunch of packages. You need to know which directories they go into and mount filesystems from external storages there. Does not sound like a plan. |
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| 12:39.49 | anddam | if I set an env variable in ~/.profile I'm not seeing that in the environment once I log in. I'm using lightdm and xfce on jessie, https://wiki.debian.org/EnvironmentVariables suggests ~/.profile is read by the default Xsession. What is the problem with ~/.profile and how can I correctly setup the environment? |
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| 12:40.25 | g00se | jelly: i just want to get Teamviewer working, but it depends on i386 |
| 12:40.32 | anddam | specifically I don't know what's setting the environment, arch wiki suggests xinit and xsession but I couldn't figure what exactly those are (nor if Xsession is the same as xsession) and what configuration files do they read |
| 12:40.44 | g00se | ChrisH: That's what i don't really want |
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| 12:41.27 | g00se | would like a statically linked Teamviewer but it probably doesn't exist |
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| 12:43.12 | jelly | g00se: enabling multiarch support and i386 foreign arch is not really problematic at all since debian 7 and now 8 |
| 12:43.51 | jelly | dpkg, tell g00se about multiarch |
| 12:43.58 | g00se | No, but it takes up space i can't really justify |
| 12:44.24 | jelly | g00se: sure you can justify it: you _just said_ you need 32bit teamviewer to work |
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| 12:44.42 | g00se | Not at that cost ;) |
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| 12:44.53 | jelly | g00se: but if you can't afford extra 100-300MB, you got bigger problems. |
| 12:45.05 | g00se | I know |
| 12:45.23 | jelly | g00se: OTOH if teamviewer is a must, why not use a 32bit linux installation? |
| 12:46.13 | g00se | I might ssh into another 32 box and run it on that |
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| 12:46.42 | Haris | where can I find SSSDConfig for pip to install on jessy ? am getting the msg ( Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement SSSDConfig (from -r requirements.txt (line 33)) ) |
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| 12:47.12 | Haris | fedora has a rpm for it. does debian have a package for it ? |
| 12:47.40 | tyll | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=783690#15 says that if there are issues with the update, they should be addressed to 783690@bugs.debian.org but if I do it, they bug system does not allow it because the bug is archived - how can it be unarchived? |
| 12:47.41 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/783690 in unattended-upgrades (closed, patch, security): «does not install security updates on jessie with default config»; severity: important; opened: 2015-04-29; last modified: 2015-06-08. |
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| 12:49.21 | jelly | tyll: if you can confirm it's the exact same bug even in 0.83.3.1 or newer, and not just similar symptoms, you can reopen it. Otherwise, file a new bug report. |
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| 12:50.30 | maziar | how can i fix this error on jessie : http://pastebin.com/u2hRtkHf |
| 12:50.57 | maziar | how can i fix this error on jessie : http://pastebin.com/u2hRtkHf its about sysctl |
| 12:51.46 | ChrisH | maziar: you might want to run service nginx start |
| 12:51.47 | maziar | some one please help |
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| 12:52.15 | Haris | maziar: No idea about this. Wait for someone to answer it |
| 12:52.18 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell maziar about ask |
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| 12:52.36 | tyll | jelly: the updated package that is referenced there is faulty, therefore it does not fix the bug mentioned there. btw. there are two new open bugs as well - can they be marked as duplicate btw? |
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| 12:52.58 | jelly | tyll: they can be merged afterwards by the maintainer, sure |
| 12:53.16 | jensp | maziar: sysctl is for configuring kernel settings, you probably meant systemctl (for systemd related stuff) |
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| 12:54.07 | jelly | maziar: your syntax is wrong. You probably wanted the "service" or "systemctl" command, not "sysctl" which does something completely different |
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| 12:55.19 | Haris | that makes sense |
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| 12:55.49 | Haris | guys, how to install SSSDConfig through pip on debian ? It can't find a download url for it |
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| 12:56.53 | maziar | this can tell you more information : http://pastebin.com/wtCht8ZN ,,,, please help |
| 12:57.38 | Haris | maziar: looks like you don't have nginx installed |
| 12:57.48 | Haris | maziar: install it, then run it |
| 12:57.56 | maziar | Haris, iam installed it from source |
| 12:58.16 | tyll | jelly: can someone else do it as well? Especially rebuild the package on Debian to fix it? |
| 12:58.18 | Haris | run systemctl list-unit-files|grep nginx |
| 12:58.19 | ChrisH | maziar: If you installed it from source, this is the wrong channel to ask. |
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| 12:58.50 | maziar | ChrisH, please dude, help me |
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| 13:00.26 | ChrisH | maziar: run aptitude search nginx and install it from Debian repos. This channel cannot assist with self compiled stuff. |
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| 13:05.26 | micalm | maziar: or create an init.d script for your setup. |
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| 13:05.48 | maziar | can any on tell me where should i check the log for staring application that compiled from source ? |
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| 13:07.01 | micalm | maziar: http://hastebin.com/qahocobife.bash here's one to help you create your own |
| 13:07.14 | micalm | Otherwise, do as ChrisH told you. |
| 13:07.30 | maziar | micalm, thank you, let me check |
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| 13:08.50 | carp | Following this guide for upgrading from wheezy to jessie https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html It says: Don't forget to mount all needed partitions (notably the root and /usr partitions) read-write, with a command like: |
| 13:09.02 | carp | # mount -o remount,rw /mountpoint |
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| 13:09.50 | carp | I am a beginner, shall I just type in the command and continue? |
| 13:10.23 | ChrisH | carp: check if you have any ro mounted filesystems using: mount | grep -v rw |
| 13:10.33 | themill | If you've not gone to the effort of making some partitions read-only (and you'd know if you had done that), you won't have anything to do there |
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| 13:11.00 | rbanffy | Getting ready. We had a building-wide power loss. |
| 13:11.02 | ChrisH | carp: I assume you do not have any... otherwise you would know it.... /sys does not count for you |
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| 13:11.17 | maziar | micalm, its not nginx problem |
| 13:11.33 | maziar | micalm, its tell cant creat proc file |
| 13:11.38 | rbanffy | Sorry. Wrong window. Xchat has a tendency to change focus when connecting |
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| 13:12.24 | carp | ChrisH: this is the result from the command you gave me: /dev/sr0 on /media/cdrom0 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user=ghem) |
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| 13:13.25 | ChrisH | carp: As a cd_RO_m is expected to be readonly, there is nothing for you to do there. go ahead and check the backups are done. |
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| 13:14.24 | Nindustries | Hi guys. Suppose I install debian with the option "LVM + encrypted", if I later mount something and write things to it, will that be encrypted too? |
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| 13:14.43 | carp | ChrisH: themill thanks. I have essentially a vanilla wheezy install. |
| 13:15.35 | carp | ChrisH: check the backups are done? Are you refering to this line in the guide "Next you should double-check that the APT source entries (in /etc/apt/sources.list) refer either to âjessieâ or to âstableâ. There should not be any sources entries pointing to wheezy. " |
| 13:15.40 | ChrisH | Nindustries: If you encrpyted the PV below LVM, and the filesystem you write into is created from encrypted LVM, the answer is yes |
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| 13:16.04 | Nindustries | ChrisH: What do you mean with PV ? |
| 13:16.29 | petn-randall | Nindustries: Depends on the something. If it's a LV on that encrypted LVM, the answer is yes. Else only if you set up encryption on that device. |
| 13:16.39 | ChrisH | carp: NO. you should check if your backups are recent. Or is that a crash-and-burn test installation? |
| 13:17.44 | carp | ChrisH: ah, no i installed wheezy from scratch on a new machine, it has nothing to back up. Did it only a few days before jessie was released, doh! |
| 13:18.47 | carp | Im coming from xp, this is my first time using a different os. |
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| 13:19.06 | petn-randall | Nindustries: If you select "LVM + encrypted", the installer will create a LUKS-encrypted partition, and use that as a physical volume (PV) for LVM. From that PV it will create all the Logical volumes (LV), like your root partition, /home, etc. |
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| 13:19.31 | ChrisH | carp: OK. then all fine. follow the Release Notes. Upgrade to the lateste Wheezy incl. Kernel and then upgrade to Jessie is expected to work like a charm |
| 13:19.34 | Nindustries | Ahh, I see. |
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| 13:20.39 | Nindustries | My use case is a VPS where storage should be encrypted, but the 'big storage' lun is presented afterwards. So that's a no |
| 13:22.10 | jelly | maziar: it's telling it can't _read_ a proc file. Because that's what "sysctl" does, read and set kernel configs in /proc/sys. It's not the right command to start a service. |
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| 13:22.34 | carp | ChrisH: At the moment my sources.list is still wheezy. I have run apt-get update and apt-get upgrade. All is ok. aptitude gives me the message "No packages are scheduled to be installed, removed, or upgraded" |
| 13:22.42 | maziar | you all know nothing ,,,,, im fix it ..... YES ! |
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| 13:23.23 | dhaval2712 | Okay so I really need some way to install debian. |
| 13:23.55 | dhaval2712 | I downloaded the KDE 8.1.0 live disk and a netinst iso, both of them stop at 33% when formatting a disk. What do I do? |
| 13:24.16 | carp | Im going to change the sources.list to jessie and run apt-get update then apt-get upgrade, then apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 13:24.28 | somiaj | carp: you should read the release notes first |
| 13:24.30 | shay_shay | dhaval2712: are you using optical disc? or usb stick |
| 13:24.50 | dhaval2712 | USB Stick. I am currently downloading the testing daily build as well. |
| 13:25.05 | carp | somiaj: This page right? https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
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| 13:25.21 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: Checked the hard drive on which I want to install, smartctl shows fine. This one specifically: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 13:25.55 | ChrisH | carp: that page is fine. read if completly once before starting the upgrade. |
| 13:26.30 | carp | yep ive read it a few times now hehe. |
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| 13:28.05 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: Should I file a bug? |
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| 13:35.22 | shay_shay | dhaval2712: it sounds like a hardware failure. s.m.a.r.t. might not be reporting accurately. |
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| 13:35.54 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: I formatted it with mkfs.ext4 in Fedora, seemed to work. |
| 13:36.31 | shay_shay | in the installer i believe if you switch to another vt you can tail the log |
| 13:36.42 | shay_shay | maybe there will be something interesting? |
| 13:37.00 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: Nope. Alt+F4 log just sits there really. |
| 13:37.43 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: What would be the version for the debian-installer on the netinst cd? |
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| 13:38.01 | shay_shay | have you another usb stick to try? |
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| 13:38.16 | shay_shay | in the spirit of process of elimination |
| 13:38.29 | xplodwild | themill: FYI I finally managed to run the install, I had to go through a PXE network boot (grub2 uefi signed image) to bootstrap the install. Installed and booted fine now after apt-get install grub-efi-amd64 |
| 13:38.41 | dhaval2712 | Unfortunately, I sort of don't However, I did check the integrity in the installer. It said OK. |
| 13:39.16 | dhaval2712 | Though I suppose I could borrow one for the time being. Hang on. |
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| 13:39.54 | themill | fun (or something) |
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| 13:40.58 | shay_shay | tips hat to xplodwild, omni devel |
| 13:41.12 | xplodwild | :) |
| 13:41.48 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: There's always... zeroing the drive. |
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| 13:46.04 | shay_shay | dhaval2712: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Badblocks |
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| 13:46.57 | freeaks | i have some problem getting my package to be accepted in my mini-dinstall repository, here what i get: http://paste.ofcode.org/pCPJdvh25wvQg9CG5GeQqi |
| 13:47.04 | freeaks | someone would have an idea? |
| 13:47.11 | shay_shay | dhaval2712: or boot to windows PE and use manufacturers hdd test utility |
| 13:48.16 | freeaks | it seems all went fine but my package ins't moved to /var/mini-dinstll/mini-dinstall/incoming/ |
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| 13:49.18 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: Wouldn't it be better just to try to install another distro? |
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| 13:52.31 | dhaval2712 | shay_shay: Trying debian-testing daily build. Wish me luck. |
| 13:52.31 | ChrisH | dhaval2712: installing another distribution can never be a better way :) |
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| 13:52.55 | dhaval2712 | ChrisH: Agreed. This is only for testing purposes. |
| 13:54.17 | dhaval2712 | I had been using Fedora for a good amount of time. Though I hadn't been much involved with the project. I've been a huge fan of KDE for a very long time but KDE 5 is just terrible. There's a couple of bugs which completely break it for me. So I'm finally switching to debian completely. |
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| 13:54.45 | dhaval2712 | If nothing else, Debian has far superior documentation. |
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| 13:56.34 | dhaval2712 | Okay. Rebooting now. Thanks a lot shay_shay. |
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| 13:57.22 | fyuza21 | hello. Installed debian testing and xfce |
| 13:57.36 | fyuza21 | using nautilus there |
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| 13:57.55 | fyuza21 | some features are missing. right click menu does not show 'create file' |
| 13:58.02 | Haris | how to install gcc on jessy ? aptitude install gcc does not do it |
| 13:58.07 | fyuza21 | any chance to fix this or is this gnome specific? |
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| 13:58.21 | fyuza21 | Haris, apt-get install build-essentials |
| 13:58.49 | Haris | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "build-essentials" |
| 13:58.59 | themill | -s |
| 13:59.00 | Haris | lol |
| 13:59.16 | Haris | that was aptitude. perhaps apt-get will do it |
| 13:59.37 | Haris | apt-get says -> E: Unable to locate package build-essentials |
| 14:00.11 | Haris | is jessy ready for production ? :P |
| 14:00.31 | themill | it's build-essential. apt is clever but not able to install packages that don't exist. |
| 14:00.41 | Haris | ah ok |
| 14:00.55 | themill | and if trying to install gcc isn't working, that's probably an error in your sources.list |
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| 14:01.15 | Haris | build-essential is already the newest version. \n build-essential set to manually installed. \n 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
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| 14:01.35 | Haris | I installed this box this morning, via netinstall ISO |
| 14:01.57 | Haris | installing python/pip requirements for django 1.5 app |
| 14:02.24 | Haris | ii gcc 4:4.9.2-2 amd64 GNU C compiler |
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| 14:02.34 | Haris | does pip need the -dev package ? |
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| 14:03.19 | themill | "the -dev package"? |
| 14:03.30 | themill | (and to do what?) |
| 14:03.48 | Haris | twisted/runner/portmap.c:10:20: fatal error: Python.h: No such file or directory |
| 14:04.03 | themill | why are you busily compiling things that are already in debian? |
| 14:04.11 | Haris | running pip install twisted==12.3.0 |
| 14:04.24 | Haris | hmm |
| 14:04.35 | Haris | python-twisted ? |
| 14:05.08 | themill | and if you really do want to compile them yourself, at least look at the source package to see what the Build-Depends are |
| 14:05.24 | ahop | Is there something new in /etc/network/interfaces since systemd ? |
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| 14:05.48 | ahop | I get messages like: |
| 14:06.09 | ahop | A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces (20s/ no limit) |
| 14:06.13 | ahop | and the wifi never starts |
| 14:07.05 | Haris | I am not sure if packages for all these exist |
| 14:07.27 | Haris | for e.g., I need sssdconfig package. but am not sure if debian repos' provide it |
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| 14:08.08 | Haris | google search doesn't help. google is more interested in sshd_config, rather than python-sssdconfig. another search suggests, fedora packages exist, but debian packages dont exist ? |
| 14:08.21 | themill | dpkg: tell Haris about search |
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| 14:08.57 | Haris | already done for sssdconfig. no results |
| 14:09.46 | Haris | !search sssdconfig |
| 14:09.50 | Haris | hmm |
| 14:10.09 | themill | Haris: sssdconfig is something that noone other than fedora knows about. It's crafted out of the sssd source package. |
| 14:10.24 | Haris | tjat |
| 14:10.25 | darxmurf | In 1970 the UNIX pioneers acquired a DEC PDP-11 that was initially diskless and had 24KB of memory. They used 12KB for the operating system, allowed a small amount of space for user programs, and the rest was used as a RAM disk. It was around this time that the first 1st Edition UNIX appeared. |
| 14:10.30 | darxmurf | Serious badass :D |
| 14:10.31 | Haris | that's what google search tells me |
| 14:10.47 | themill | so therefore searching for sssd might be better? |
| 14:10.49 | darxmurf | Started to read UNIX Filesystems: Evolution, Design, and Implementation |
| 14:11.37 | themill | or search for the contents of that package? |
| 14:11.40 | Haris | how do I search a package with dpkg |
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| 14:11.48 | Haris | for+ a package... |
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| 14:11.59 | themill | Haris: you don't, you use apt-cache (or apt-file) |
| 14:12.07 | Haris | ah ok |
| 14:12.35 | Haris | there's no python-txAMQP or python-txamqp package |
| 14:13.01 | Haris | python-amqp! |
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| 14:18.45 | knivsta | guys Debian won't detect my monitor after a power failure like 10 mins ago, actually the fan of my SMPS stopped working and the monitor's resolution changed and then I shut it down for 10 mins now I get Unknown Monitor in System Settings |
| 14:18.49 | knivsta | kindly help me |
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| 14:26.06 | shay_shay | Harris: google tip: if you use -"sshd_config" it will only show you results without sshd_config. +âsshd_config" will only show you results that have that keyword (the default behavior is sometimes keywords can be missing) |
| 14:26.26 | shay_shay | the quotes are to keep the Google algorithm from word splitting on the _ |
| 14:27.02 | shay_shay | example: sssdconfig -"sshd_config" debian python package |
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| 14:30.31 | carp | Currently my sources.list includes contrib and non-free. I am on wheezy. I want to upgrade to jessie and Not have contrib or non-free. I wonder which order I should do things. Delete them first from wheezy? I think the purge command is the fullest way to delete something. |
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| 14:31.10 | themill | carp: start by looking at the output of: aptitude search '~i?or(~scontrib,~snon-free)' |
| 14:32.04 | carp | themill: i firmware-libertas - Binary firmware for Marvell Libertas 8xxx i firmware-linux-nonfree - Binary firmware for various drivers in the |
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| 14:32.14 | themill | if you need that firmware, then you need it. |
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| 14:32.57 | carp | themill: ah yes gotcha, I will keep them enabled then, thanks. |
| 14:33.26 | mhoney | does apache run as www-data on jessie? |
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| 14:37.36 | ChrisH | mhoney: mine des |
| 14:37.39 | ChrisH | mhoney: mine does |
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| 14:37.49 | mhoney | k thx |
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| 14:45.15 | virbz | I am wondering that there recently appeared updates for qemu/kvm in jessie since the bugreport that Salvatore Bonaccorso sent around in the debian-security-announce only covered oldstable, that is wheezy. Why is that? |
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| 14:48.26 | Ironhand | I'm running a bunch of libvirt qemu/kvm virtual machines, Jessie for both host and guest... the VM's don't make any attempt to shut down when I issue a 'virsh shutdown', in other words it appears that the VMs are completely ignoring their power button |
| 14:48.30 | Ironhand | what could be causing this? |
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| 14:48.53 | Ironhand | I've already tweaked some settings in /etc/systemd/logind.conf |
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| 14:52.09 | virbz | Ironhand: Does your host system shut down when you press the power button? |
| 14:53.03 | Ironhand | virbz: it's a rented server, I don't have physical access, and I believe I can only trigger hard reboots remotely |
| 14:53.41 | virbz | Ironhand: I guess that your guest system is set up to ignore the power button press. You don't have a GUI running on it, right? |
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| 14:54.06 | Ironhand | virbz: correct @ GUI... I haven't specifically set up anything to ignore the power button press |
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| 14:55.46 | Ironhand | I did previously have acpid installed (as that used to be how I enabled the shutdown on power button press pre-systemd), but after reading up on the "new way" I removed it again (even with acpid it didn't work) |
| 14:56.43 | Ironhand | note that the systems have been installed through debootstrap so they might be missing specific packages debian-installer normally takes care of |
| 14:57.33 | ahopp | Do I need a package for Wifi support? |
| 14:57.50 | ahopp | apt-get install wpa_supplicant (or something like this) to support WPA? |
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| 14:58.19 | ahopp | all I do is /etc/network/intefaces with : wpa-ssid "my-ssid" wpa-psk "hjkhjhj", i'm not using wpa_supplicant files |
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| 14:58.29 | ahopp | Do I need a package anyway? |
| 15:00.02 | ahopp | for wireless ? |
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| 15:01.03 | jeeger | Greetings! I'm running debian 8, and I just upgraded to systemd. I'd like to configure systemd to allow me to enter my disk encryption password over a serial console, since this is a headless server. Is that possible? |
| 15:02.21 | kober | Hi, having issues with google compute engine VM using Debian, not sure but it might be something related to Debian Jessie. Problem is that it randomly crashed and this was the trace i was able to pull out: http://pastebin.com/sq4EMNPb any ideas? |
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| 15:06.35 | Ironhand | virbz: managed to figure out the cause of the problem after digging into systemd services a bit more... apparently logind was failing to start due to dbus being missing; after installing dbus and restarting systemd-logind.service it worked correctly |
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| 15:10.09 | jeeger | //reconnect |
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| 15:13.48 | jelly | kober: that's a wheezy-backports kernel, and a somewhat older one |
| 15:14.03 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 15:14.04 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
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| 15:20.59 | virbz | I am wondering that there recently appeared updates for qemu/kvm in jessie since the bugreport that Salvatore Bonaccorso sent around in the debian-security-announce only covered oldstable, that is wheezy. Why is that? |
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| 15:27.55 | lynxx | tahurel: meow |
| 15:28.54 | jeeger | Any tips on entering my disk encryption passphrase over a serial console? |
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| 15:30.12 | TJ- | jeeger: you'd need a custom keyscript that opens the serial port and pipes the input |
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| 15:30.41 | ChrisH | jeeger: if you redirect your kernel to serial console, I owuld expect this works out-of-the box. |
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| 15:32.10 | jeeger | Hm, yeah, but I can't get grub to give me a serial console. The serial console works with systemd, but it is only started after the passphrase is requested |
| 15:32.51 | jeeger | It's a USB serial adapter from ftdi, so it's not a proper serial port |
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| 15:34.14 | Brigo | jeeger, did you try configuring grub? somethin like this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-setup-serial-console-on-debian-linux/ |
| 15:34.27 | ChrisH | jeeger: You talked about "serial console" which is something different. I have no idea on how to provide the passphrase in initrd via a serial line. |
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| 15:35.26 | jelly | jeeger: I imagine grub would need its own usb host and usb serial drivers for that to work. |
| 15:36.24 | jelly | as for initrd time, that's linux so it's just a matter of putting correct modules and initializing ttyUSB0 in initramfs |
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| 15:37.32 | jeeger | ChrisH: Yeah, that's almost exactly what I did. |
| 15:37.48 | jeeger | jelly: Grub2 seems to have USB and FTDI support, but I can't find any documentation on that anywhere |
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| 15:38.08 | jelly | jeeger: mmm... http://www.coreboot.org/GRUB2#On_an_usb_serial_or_usb_debug_adapter |
| 15:38.45 | jelly | it appears grub2 actually has drivers for all that? :-) |
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| 15:39.11 | jeeger | jelly: Yeah, but "insmod ehci" makes my disks disappear, and nothing works any more. |
| 15:39.39 | jelly | jeeger: #grub is probably better place to ask |
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| 15:43.23 | jelly | jeeger: disappear? Maybe grub reorders disks after usb host is initialized? I have a pl2303 somewhere but no time to try things |
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| 15:49.43 | jeeger | jelly: Yeah, ls gives me no disks after "insmod ehci" |
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| 16:01.54 | jelly | jeeger: what if you first load ohci and uhci, before ehci? |
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| 16:03.50 | jokke | hi, i need some help with my beaglebone black running debian. I need to read analog inputs but can't see any of the device descriptors in /sys that are described in every tutorial on the net.. :/ |
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| 16:04.51 | jeeger | jelly: one moment |
| 16:05.07 | jelly | jokke: contents of /sys are kernel specific. Are you using a debian kernel, or a kernel provided by someone else? |
| 16:05.24 | vladoski | hi guys, i've uninstalled GNOME and installe xfce. I'm a linux newbie, and when the OS starts the DE doesnt start |
| 16:05.34 | jelly | jokke: they may also require loading specific driver modules to appear |
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| 16:06.05 | tehrabbitt | morning |
| 16:06.20 | SuperTramp83 | evening |
| 16:06.27 | tehrabbitt | I keep getting PGP errors on the wheezy debian security mirror :/ |
| 16:06.38 | vladoski | i dont wanna log on my account by terminal and starting xfce from terminal all the time... |
| 16:06.48 | tehrabbitt | tried an apt-key update but no luck |
| 16:07.22 | jokke | jelly: i just got an image from http://elinux.org/BeagleBoardDebian |
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| 16:07.50 | jelly | jokke: what does "uname -a" say? |
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| 16:08.00 | jokke | Linux arm 3.14.43-ti-r67 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Jun 4 20:37:18 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linux |
| 16:08.21 | jelly | jokke: yeah, that's not debian's kernel. Ask the author(s) of the image you used. |
| 16:08.25 | jokke | i guess ti stands for texas instruments here |
| 16:08.31 | jokke | yeah |
| 16:08.43 | jmd | Having upgraded to 8.0 mounting my network filesystems at boot time no longer works. |
| 16:08.56 | jmd | It works fine AFTER boot. |
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| 16:09.24 | jmd | I suspect this is due to a dependency on nfs.mount but am not sure. |
| 16:09.25 | tehrabbitt | I can't figure out how to get the keys updated so I can install packages again :/ |
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| 16:09.48 | jelly | jmd: wild-ass guess: add _netdev to their fstab options, maybe? |
| 16:09.48 | tehrabbitt | and thanks to ubuntu sharing the same exact apt-get command, google just takes you to ubuntu related info heh |
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| 16:09.56 | transhuman | what replaces libhal1 in stretch? |
| 16:09.57 | jmd | Yes, I do have the _netdev option set. |
| 16:10.05 | jmd | (and I have read the wiki) |
| 16:10.10 | jeeger | jelly: Nope, doesn't matter which order I load the modules. I disabled legacy USB devices in the bios, now the USB keyboard doesn't work. |
| 16:10.15 | jeeger | Eh, not that important. |
| 16:10.21 | jelly | tehrabbitt: install debian-archive-keyring package |
| 16:10.21 | tehrabbitt | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/Release |
| 16:10.29 | tehrabbitt | jelly: it's already installed |
| 16:10.37 | jelly | tehrabbitt: reinstall it, then |
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| 16:11.17 | tehrabbitt | jelly: it's warning me I shouldn't remove that package :P |
| 16:11.25 | tehrabbitt | You are about to do something potentially harmful. |
| 16:11.25 | tehrabbitt | To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!' |
| 16:11.37 | jelly | tehrabbitt: I didn't say to remove it... |
| 16:11.43 | tehrabbitt | heh how do I reinstall it hten |
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| 16:11.58 | jelly | tehrabbitt: aptitude reinstall ..., or apt-get --reinstall install ... |
| 16:12.52 | tehrabbitt | jelly: same issue, reinstalled and i'm still getting the issue. |
| 16:12.55 | tehrabbitt | W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/Release |
| 16:13.10 | tehrabbitt | The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2 |
| 16:13.21 | jelly | tehrabbitt: show the complete output, please |
| 16:13.22 | jelly | !paste |
| 16:13.22 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:13.28 | tehrabbitt | yup one sec. |
| 16:14.29 | tehrabbitt | http://paste.debian.net/230980/ |
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| 16:15.19 | jelly | tehrabbitt: this usually means something's tampering with the download, or there's a partial download in place (rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/*_*) |
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| 16:15.58 | zoey | hello everyone,i got a question here, how to get install history and undo it ? |
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| 16:16.34 | transhuman | can i just install an older version of it |
| 16:16.47 | jelly | zoey: dpkg, apt and aptitude each keep logs under /var/log/ but there's no easy undo |
| 16:17.30 | jelly | transhuman: what's the actual problem you're trying to solve? |
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| 16:18.31 | sine0 | what is needed to apt-get for the /usr/share/dict/words |
| 16:18.40 | sine0 | (if anyone knows) |
| 16:18.56 | jelly | sine0: /msg judd file /usr/share/dict/words |
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| 16:19.15 | sine0 | ... |
| 16:19.47 | zoey | apt-get autoremove killed me |
| 16:19.48 | petn-randall | sine0: Or apt-file search /usr/share/dict/words |
| 16:20.02 | jelly | dpkg, tell sine0 about apt-file |
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| 16:21.02 | tehrabbitt | jelly: rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/apt/lists/*_*': No such file or directory |
| 16:21.15 | jelly | tehrabbitt: good |
| 16:21.35 | jelly | tehrabbitt: which shell are you using? |
| 16:21.45 | tehrabbitt | http://paste.debian.net/230982/ |
| 16:22.24 | tehrabbitt | jelly: i'm using bash |
| 16:22.45 | jelly | tehrabbitt: anyhow, wipe all the list files with underscore in their name from there. And from partial/ subdirectory. Don't wipe "lock" |
| 16:23.18 | tehrabbitt | ls: cannot access /var/lib/apt/lists/*_*: No such file or directory |
| 16:23.26 | tehrabbitt | there are no lists. |
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| 16:23.35 | jelly | and in .../partial/ ? |
| 16:23.41 | tehrabbitt | there is no directory partial./ |
| 16:23.59 | jelly | tehrabbitt: you don't have /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ directory? |
| 16:24.18 | tehrabbitt | jelly: there is nothing in it. |
| 16:24.33 | tehrabbitt | ls: cannot access /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/: No such file or directory |
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| 16:24.41 | jelly | tehrabbitt: mkdir it back |
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| 16:25.19 | tehrabbitt | same issue |
| 16:25.46 | jelly | tehrabbitt: what does security.debian.org resolve to? |
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| 16:26.05 | jelly | tehrabbitt: "getent hosts security.debian.org" |
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| 16:26.56 | tehrabbitt | hm it's giving IPv6 info back. |
| 16:27.14 | jelly | tehrabbitt: so we excluded previous partial downloads. Network issues remain as possibility. |
| 16:27.30 | jelly | do you have ipv6 connectivity? |
| 16:27.33 | tehrabbitt | I can ping "schein.debian.org" apparently |
| 16:27.35 | sine0 | jelly: petn-randall thanks for the information and ive learned a new tool! |
| 16:27.37 | tehrabbitt | jelly: no, not internally. |
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| 16:27.48 | tehrabbitt | nor is it configured. |
| 16:27.50 | Dagger | you want `getent ahosts security.debian.org`, or it'll only show one address |
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| 16:27.59 | petn-randall | sine0: You're welcome! Come back if you have questions :) |
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| 16:28.09 | tehrabbitt | 128.31.0.63 STREAM security.debian.org |
| 16:29.03 | jelly | tehrabbitt: that's weird, I don't have that old address returned here any more. |
| 16:29.14 | Dagger | (somewhat surprising that it prefers a v6 address on a system with no v6, but... oh well?) |
| 16:29.39 | jelly | tehrabbitt: your DNS recursor may be retaining old addresses for too long |
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| 16:30.01 | tehrabbitt | jelly: so what should I do? |
| 16:30.06 | jelly | tehrabbitt: try "dig +trace security.debian.org" |
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| 16:30.48 | tehrabbitt | http://paste.debian.net/230984/ |
| 16:31.38 | jelly | mm, or it's just geodns at work |
| 16:32.43 | jelly | tehrabbitt: just for fun, add "149.20.20.6 security.debian.org" into /etc/hosts and try update again |
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| 16:33.24 | tehrabbitt | nope, nada :( |
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| 16:33.52 | tehrabbitt | 64 bytes from mirror-csail-security.debian.org (128.31.0.63): icmp_req=2 ttl=47 time=1.92ms |
| 16:34.12 | tehrabbitt | that's without the hosts entry |
| 16:34.19 | tehrabbitt | with the hosts entry it's 100ms+ |
| 16:35.26 | tehrabbitt | jelly: so yeah, after I run an apt-get update, gpg fiels DO show up in the partial directory. |
| 16:35.32 | tehrabbitt | i clear them, run it again, same issue |
| 16:35.39 | transhuman | jellly that was the solution I was looking for ...got it working under kvm now |
| 16:36.32 | jelly | tehrabbitt: both 128.31.0.63 and 149.20.20.6 worked for me on an i386+amd64 wheezy install. Something's tampering with your download |
| 16:37.16 | jelly | and I did a rm -f /var/lib/apt/lists/{partial/,}security* before doing an update with different forced IP |
| 16:37.38 | tehrabbitt | hm |
| 16:37.43 | tehrabbitt | jelly: what would be tampering with it :/ |
| 16:38.10 | jelly | tehrabbitt: can you paste the contents of a downloaded file? after update, grep . /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* |
| 16:38.24 | jelly | tehrabbitt: pastebin output of that |
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| 16:38.53 | jelly | tehrabbitt: a firewall. A proxy. Who knows. |
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| 16:42.29 | tehrabbitt | http://paste.debian.net/230988/ |
| 16:42.35 | tehrabbitt | jelly: thats the full output |
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| 16:43.42 | tehrabbitt | jelly: it looks like it could be webfilter. |
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| 16:45.15 | jelly | tehrabbitt: contact your network administrator. :-) |
| 16:45.29 | tehrabbitt | yep, looks like I have to have *.debian.org added to the web filter. |
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| 16:47.23 | tehrabbitt | jelly: we are in the process of migrating from our one ISP to a blended connection (4 ISPs) problem is, the web filter is on the new connection, and thus, debian.org seems to need whitelisting :| lol |
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| 16:48.22 | tehrabbitt | yep, that was it... network admin added it for me :P now it's working |
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| 16:48.59 | wakennn | ,kernels |
| 16:49.00 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.4-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
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| 16:54.24 | tehrabbitt | thanks jelly |
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| 16:57.33 | jeeger | And now systemd fails to read my keyfile during bootup. It works after bootup with "systemctl restart systemd-cryptsetup@data.service", but during bootup, I get the error "Failed to activate with key file /path/to/key/file: invalid argument". The keyfile is stored on a vfat USB stick that has a /dev/disk/by-uuid entry in fstab. |
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| 16:59.37 | mainstreet | So I just created a debian system, and I try to sudo, it tells me that "m52 is not in the sudoers file." I got, fine, okay, I'll log in as root directly and add that. I log out of my m52 account (the only account on this fresh box)... I tried to log in as root, it tells me root logins are not allowed |
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| 16:59.55 | mainstreet | go* |
| 16:59.57 | mainstreet | So I'm sort of at a loss for where to go from here. :/ |
| 17:00.03 | mainstreet | How do I actually get in? |
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| 17:01.39 | ChrisH | mainstreet: login as m52 and su - to root |
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| 17:04.54 | mainstreet | sighs. |
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| 17:05.14 | mainstreet | Now it apparently is just going to not respond to anything I tell it whatsoever >< |
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| 17:06.00 | mainstreet | sighs. Yeah, this is why I really need to disable the gui, this computer doesn't have the ram for it -.- But I can't do it until I can get in as root. fml |
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| 17:07.12 | mainstreet | Okay that finally worked, ty |
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| 17:07.32 | renokikevi | I just got dual displays and i got both off them work but the both displays are showing the same contents how can i fix that? |
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| 17:09.23 | renokikevi | How do i remove dublicate content on dual display with xrandr? |
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| 17:29.02 | relipse | i have squeeze and it has PHP 5.3.3-7+squeeze19 but I need PHP >= 5.5.9 how do I get it??? |
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| 17:35.13 | zwarag | relipse: you can compile php by yourself or you can use an external repo like dotdeb.org |
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| 17:37.44 | TheWarden | Hi, I have one old server left that is running on Debian Squeeze. Can I upgrade directly to Jessie? |
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| 17:38.38 | carp | Im upgrading from wheezy to jessie. The minimal system upgrade went ok. Halfway through the dist-upgrade my wireless connection cut out. Before i started i plugged the ethernet cable in. However the wired network option said 'device not managed'. |
| 17:38.41 | carp | TheWarden: nope |
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| 17:39.17 | SerajewelKS | carp: that means that networkmanager isn't in charge of that device |
| 17:39.32 | SerajewelKS | (IIRC) |
| 17:39.45 | SerajewelKS | TheWarden: no, you must upgrade through each release. skipping releases during upgrade is not supported. |
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| 17:40.59 | telmac | so I installed a gpu a few weeks ago and it was fine for a bit |
| 17:41.16 | carp | heres the strange thing, i have 2 other computers. one is a debian wheezy and one is windows. the 2nd debian wheezy machine is also not able to connect to the wireless since the last hour when this cut out occured. But i am using the windows machine right now to talk here. |
| 17:41.36 | telmac | then after being off for a week or so it stopped working, got nothing out of it |
| 17:41.57 | telmac | so I removed it and I'm running on integrated graphics now, with all sorts of fuckery I assume due to drivers |
| 17:42.03 | SerajewelKS | carp: like i said, networkmanager doesn't think it's in charge of that interface so it's not doing anything with it |
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| 17:42.25 | SerajewelKS | you need to tell networkmanager that it should manager the wireless network interface or it will just continue to ignore it |
| 17:42.33 | SerajewelKS | erm, the wired interface |
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| 17:42.50 | SerajewelKS | you could just need to run "ifup eth0" to bring it up |
| 17:43.01 | SerajewelKS | (networkmanager won't manage it if you do that) |
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| 17:43.10 | telmac | among other things xterm takes a stupid amount of time to redraw the screen |
| 17:43.39 | SerajewelKS | telmac: if you have access to an OS that is known to work with it then i'd try that to make sure that the hardware is ookay |
| 17:43.39 | telmac | and evince's interface is very very slow |
| 17:43.42 | SerajewelKS | okay* |
| 17:43.49 | telmac | well I'm on it now |
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| 17:43.56 | telmac | but then like, flash works fine |
| 17:44.06 | SerajewelKS | flash can render in software |
| 17:44.06 | telmac | I used youtube earlier and it was normal |
| 17:44.16 | SerajewelKS | it doesn't require hardware acceleration |
| 17:44.18 | telmac | ah, well that makes sense |
| 17:44.38 | SerajewelKS | you need to try with a driver you *know* works to rule out any hardware failure |
| 17:44.44 | telmac | debian is currently the only os installed |
| 17:44.59 | carp | SerajewelKS: ifup eht0 returns already configured |
| 17:45.01 | SerajewelKS | (if you have another machine that can use the gpu) |
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| 17:45.12 | telmac | no, well not really |
| 17:45.24 | telmac | at least for the moment I can run on integrated graphics |
| 17:45.32 | TheWarden | carp: Oh okay |
| 17:45.35 | SerajewelKS | carp: check "ip addr show eth0" to make sure that it has an ip address that you know is on your network |
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| 17:45.48 | TheWarden | SerajewelKS: ok, thanks. maybe should just blow away the server and start fresh I guess. |
| 17:46.00 | telmac | so I was told (here) to remove the nvidia drivers for the integrated graphics |
| 17:46.02 | SerajewelKS | TheWarden: if there's nothing on it you need that is often easier |
| 17:46.27 | telmac | I don't know where to start to reinstall them... and I'm imagining it involves more than grabbing a few packages |
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| 17:46.50 | carp | SerajewelKS: that command return nothing |
| 17:49.36 | carp | infact its gone screwy, i no longer have user@debian $ |
| 17:49.49 | SerajewelKS | O_o |
| 17:50.01 | telmac | C-d? |
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| 17:51.58 | carp | its letting me type in stuff. if i press esc it shows ^[ |
| 17:52.40 | carp | if i press the arrow keys it shows ^[[A B C or D |
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| 17:53.01 | telmac | carp: did you type control-c or control-d |
| 17:53.09 | carp | yes earlier i did |
| 17:53.33 | carp | ah, i need to press control c again? |
| 17:55.13 | carp | i was trying to copy paste a line |
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| 17:56.27 | telmac | carp: C-c is supposed to kill the program |
| 17:56.38 | telmac | did it successfully copy before? |
| 17:56.56 | carp | telmac: no it didnt |
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| 17:57.31 | telmac | so... did you try it yet? |
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| 17:58.44 | carp | telmac: i try control c again, it just prints a capital C |
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| 17:58.57 | telmac | and C-d? |
| 17:59.25 | carp | telmac it prints capital D |
| 17:59.33 | telmac | lol |
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| 17:59.49 | telmac | are you in text mode? |
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| 18:00.48 | carp | telmac: i dont know, how would i exit if i was |
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| 18:02.45 | telmac | carp: ie. is this in a terminal in a graphical environment or is it only text |
| 18:03.08 | carp | telmac: im using gnome-terminal |
| 18:03.24 | telmac | why can't you just kill the terminal and open a new one at this point? |
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| 18:04.09 | carp | telmac: i can try that, though i am recording logs during this jessie update, |
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| 18:04.51 | telmac | this was apt that exploded? |
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| 18:07.44 | carp | telmac: i was in the middle of 'apt-get dist-upgrade' when the wireless cut out. then it recommended i try 'apt-get update' but it got stuck trying to connect to security.debian.org |
| 18:07.57 | carp | thats when i clicked Control C by mistake |
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| 18:08.11 | carp | but it went back to normal command line |
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| 18:09.14 | carp | and ifup eth0 worked ok. but then 'ip addr show eth0' gave me this problem now |
| 18:10.21 | telmac | idk, just open a new terminal at least |
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| 18:11.33 | carp | telmac: i open a new terminal, and i type 'ip addr show eth0' |
| 18:12.01 | telmac | and it did this again? |
| 18:12.13 | carp | it does the same thing, i am given a black rectangle where i can type. |
| 18:12.25 | telmac | I have no idea |
| 18:12.43 | carp | telmac: no worries, thanks for trying |
| 18:13.20 | jair | hello guys, is it possible to mount an ee GPT partition rw remount ? |
| 18:13.46 | jair | for example I am trying to remount the root partition rw (currently single mode) user |
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| 18:15.05 | carp | I just tried the same thing using the text terminal in control alt f1 |
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| 18:16.05 | carp | it does the same thing. i try typing quit and it prints what i type |
| 18:16.14 | telmac | I mean it wouldn't be a problem with the terminal |
| 18:16.32 | telmac | and I don't think typing quite in any circumstance would do anything anyway |
| 18:16.59 | carp | yeah |
| 18:17.08 | Mac_Weber | hello |
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| 18:17.12 | Mac_Weber | my system stopped recording new entries a the journal. How to fix it? |
| 18:17.58 | jhutchins | Mac_Weber: What journal? |
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| 18:18.32 | Mac_Weber | jhutchins: journalctl |
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| 18:19.25 | carp | i am going to cook (and cry). i probably wont be able to use this machine after wards as its not mine, miht have to tackle this tomorrow. but i will read this irc for as long as possible so i wont quit the irc yet. |
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| 18:23.48 | Fahrradkette | hey guys. Is there a web browser which supports choosing a specific audio device for playing html5 content? Iceweasel just picks the system default as far as I know :( |
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| 18:25.01 | telmac | Fahrradkette: do you need like, html5 audio to go through one device and flash through another? |
| 18:25.27 | Fahrradkette | I don't use flash at all, no need for it. |
| 18:25.43 | Fahrradkette | All I want is tell the browser to pick a specific device to send it's audio to |
| 18:25.47 | telmac | so why do you need html5 specifically to use a different device? |
| 18:26.06 | Fahrradkette | the browser should be capable to play html5 content, thats all:) |
| 18:26.29 | telmac | but you can play audio otherwise through the right device? |
| 18:26.36 | Fahrradkette | on vlc, yes |
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| 18:26.41 | Fahrradkette | audacity too |
| 18:27.00 | telmac | are you sure iceweasel is actually playing it? |
| 18:27.19 | Fahrradkette | pulseaudio shows a client called "iceweasel" |
| 18:27.34 | telmac | like my question is, are you trying to use multiple audio devices for different programs |
| 18:27.42 | telmac | or is it rather just a problem with iceweasel |
| 18:27.45 | SerajewelKS | carp: if it's freezing there then that means ip is waiting for the kernel to inform it of something |
| 18:27.50 | SerajewelKS | carp: that's not a good sign |
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| 18:28.04 | SerajewelKS | carp: it may indicate some kind of hardware or driver malfunction |
| 18:28.47 | Fahrradkette | no, but when I plug out my usb audio device puleseaudio picks some other device, then I have to use pactl to manually set the usb-audio device as default |
| 18:29.42 | Fahrradkette | like when I plug in the usb-audio device again |
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| 18:30.03 | SerajewelKS | Fahrradkette: seems like that's a problem with pulse, not iceweasel |
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| 18:30.17 | Fahrradkette | so I thought there might be a browser which has it's audio stack exposed to the user |
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| 18:30.36 | SerajewelKS | picking the system default is rather common, if that doesn't do what you want then odds are the default is wrong |
| 18:30.39 | Fahrradkette | like vlc or audacity or mumble has |
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| 18:33.36 | SerajewelKS | you can use pulse tools to reassign an output stream to another device, btw |
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| 18:33.42 | SerajewelKS | but that won't stick if the application opens a new stream |
| 18:34.19 | Fahrradkette | so should I remove pulseaudio? I mean would iceweasel work with alsa, too? |
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| 18:35.30 | Fahrradkette | or would removing pulseaudio break the whole system? |
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| 18:36.18 | SerajewelKS | that depends on your preference |
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| 18:36.50 | SerajewelKS | IIRC pulse has ways to select an output device for a new stream based on factors |
| 18:37.07 | SerajewelKS | pulse is more flexible but can introduce other issues |
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| 18:38.10 | Fahrradkette | all I want is the computer playing sound...and as far as I know, alsa does that |
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| 18:39.05 | SerajewelKS | so does pulse :) again, it's a matter of your specific needs. what is pulse doing that you don't like, and how do you think alsa would be better? |
| 18:39.47 | Fahrradkette | pulse messes with the volume levels, like if the console bell rings, the volume goes up for a few seconds |
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| 18:40.30 | roberth1990 | what kernels do there exist for debian that isnt official ones? |
| 18:40.34 | KingEdgar | :[ just going to say |
| 18:40.36 | Fahrradkette | I had to set some pulse value to "flat" to avoid that.... |
| 18:40.46 | SerajewelKS | Fahrradkette: attenuation? |
| 18:41.26 | SerajewelKS | it's common for "priority" streams to be given preference somehow, so if you are on an audio call it will lower the volume for everything else for example |
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| 18:41.40 | KingEdgar | it turns out my graphics card doesn't have official support on debian because the minimal driver version for my GPU is 347-348 or something i forgot which number exactly, but hte latest GPU drivers available are 340.65 |
| 18:41.58 | KingEdgar | :/ had to use some smxi script to get latest support |
| 18:42.02 | SerajewelKS | nvidia? |
| 18:42.04 | KingEdgar | yep |
| 18:42.07 | KingEdgar | GTX 960 |
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| 18:42.19 | KingEdgar | my old GPU broke and I had to replace it with that ;P |
| 18:42.59 | SerajewelKS | "smxi script?" |
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| 18:43.25 | KingEdgar | it's some script that is rather popular and let's you use the latest nvidia driver on debian and other distros |
| 18:43.44 | SerajewelKS | ah |
| 18:43.52 | Fahrradkette | vlc was playing music on like 60% volume...console bell rang...music volume jumped to 100% (and bell volume as well I guess)...then a few secs later the music volume went back to 60% |
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| 18:44.30 | towo` | it's a shitty script because it uses the nvidia-installer from the website |
| 18:44.51 | SerajewelKS | Fahrradkette: hmm that is a bit weird, sounds like a bug or at least misconfigured defaults |
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| 18:45.42 | Fahrradkette | never had such cross application issues when using alsa so I was wondering if I could simply apt-get remove pulseaudio |
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| 18:47.03 | Fahrradkette | or would I break jessie doing that? |
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| 19:03.19 | pullphinger | shopping for a laptop that I can install debian-something to learn. any recommendations or brands to stay away from? used/second hand is my budget, hoping around $250 |
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| 19:07.36 | Neffi | pullphinger: I hear Dell's recent laptops are very good, and they even sell Developer Edition laptops with Ubuntu pre-installed, so you can probably assume Debian works too. |
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| 19:08.31 | Neffi | pullphinger: XPS13 and M3800 seem to be the go-to recommendations for really high quality laptops in their respective sizes |
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| 19:18.23 | acz32 | pullphinger: check the dell refurbished store and you may find something good within that budget |
| 19:19.11 | ChrisH | pullphinger: I personally recommend (for almost any cases) used business laptops like Dell/HP/IBM |
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| 19:22.45 | carp | SerajewelKS: hmm, ip waiting for a response from the kernel. Do you think this means my problem is deeper than just the wireless internet cutting out during dist-upgrade? If i am able to, id like to try to resume dist-upgrade using ethernet. But as you know 'ip addr show eth0' doesnt work. |
| 19:23.41 | carp | Last resort will always be to make jessie dvd and start over, which is not a problem really. My system is only a vanilla wheezy anyway. |
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| 19:24.13 | kusmi | Anyone have any idea why R Shiny webapps don't work in my browser(s)? |
| 19:26.24 | kusmi | nevermind, it seems I tried on several duds (including mine), found some that work. |
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| 19:30.09 | fossrox | ChrisH: I've run 8 times memtest86+ and chcked the ssd drive with smartctl and haven't discovered any issues with this hardware. I've installed ubuntu to perform these tests and had no problem with installing it. Do you have any further ideas what I should do to find what is causing that netinstall to hang out as I described before? |
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| 19:33.07 | ChrisH | fossrox: not really. Only the HW is bleeding edge and the kernel cannot cope with it. |
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| 19:34.22 | fossrox | ChrisH: do you mean by HW the hardware? |
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| 19:39.35 | jeeger | Greetings! I'm using cryptsetup/crypttab with a removable USB drive, and want to unmount the drive after mounting the encrypted partition is complete. How would I do that? |
| 19:40.23 | alt^255 | Hi. Pressing the fn-zz button on my laptop's keyboard sends the machine to sleep (not suspend). I'm trying to figure out what gets executed but my /etc/acpi contains only powerbtn-acpi-support.sh. I'm running debian jessie. |
| 19:40.37 | alt^255 | How do I configure what happens at suspend? E.g. forgetting passphrases, SSH keys, etc |
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| 19:44.05 | carp | ah i have to leave this computer now, i will try more tomorrow. cheers |
| 19:44.24 | Krakakanok | bye |
| 19:45.19 | Brigo | alt^255, if you are using systemd -default in jessie- then check logind. it manages buttons now. |
| 19:45.32 | alt^255 | Brigo: thanks. |
| 19:45.39 | Brigo | alt^255, yw :) |
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| 19:45.56 | alt^255 | so now the question is - how complicated is it to tell systemd to run a script when it suspends? *scared look* |
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| 19:47.08 | Brigo | alt^255, i think there is a directory somewhere you can drop the script, or may be you have to write a unit file and drop it instead. |
| 19:47.12 | alt^255 | ok. |
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| 19:47.32 | alt^255 | is it also true that any changes to logind.conf require basically a restart of the X server? |
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| 19:48.49 | DasEi | alt^255: to take effect yes |
| 19:48.54 | alt^255 | oh. |
| 19:49.32 | alt^255 | isn't this a backward step compared to restarting the acpi daemon? Sorry for the odd question, I came back to Debian after a while and I'm starting to find my way around systemd. |
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| 19:50.54 | Brigo | alt^255, i don't know about the acpi, but if you change the session manager you have to restart it and your sesion to take effect. |
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| 19:52.09 | alt^255 | ah, there's no need to restart logind to test the scripts. |
| 19:52.19 | alt^255 | that would have been awkward. |
| 19:52.21 | alt^255 | thanks! |
| 19:52.28 | Brigo | alt^255, yw |
| 19:53.06 | DasEi | alt^255: logout and re-log in works |
| 19:53.12 | DasEi | late |
| 19:54.40 | ahop | When using this /etc/network/interfaces : http://pastebin.com/DjfAhmi3 |
| 19:54.52 | ahop | Why is it blocked for 1min if no eth0 is connecte? |
| 19:55.03 | ahop | why doesn't it go to the next lines and use wlan0 instead? |
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| 20:05.44 | as772727252 | my screen go blank and don't come back. someone here suggested to do 'xset dpms force standby', and I entered it when the screen was blank, and then the screen became visible when I moved the mouse. any idea how to resolv? |
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| 20:08.23 | ChrisH | fossrox: ACK. HW == Hardware |
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| 20:15.06 | ojaito1 | Hi everyone; I just bought a new machine, installed Debian Jessie, and have discovered that OpenGL performance sucks with my video card (an AMD Radeon R#), both with open/free and proprietary drivers. So I'm thinking of getting another card that packs a bigger punch and I may have to stoop to buying NVIDIA. I assume there's no problem having two different kinds of video cards on my motherboard, with power |
| 20:15.08 | ojaito1 | supplied to them, provided I'm only using one at a time? (Or please recommend a more appropriate place to ask this question.) |
| 20:15.36 | ojaito1 | (the reason for having two cards is that a really powerful video card can be noisy with all those fans...) |
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| 20:15.59 | ojaito1 | (and I only need that kind of performance some of the time) |
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| 20:19.34 | x478437790 | hi, I got disconnected. I previously asked about my screen going blank, did anyone reply? |
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| 20:26.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | ojaito1, maybe ##hardware can say something about power issues with two cards... depending on what you understand as "bad performance" and what the exact card is... that sounds strange |
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| 20:27.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | ojaito1, dunno what drivers you tried... have you looked at the pciid with lspci -nn and searched for that for linux? |
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| 20:33.58 | significance | Hello all! I have a webcam (0733:0401, Intel CS330) that the gspca module recognizes and gives no errors over (via dmesg), but whenever I try to get an image, I receive a black screen. How might I go about debugging this issue? |
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| 20:42.09 | ojaito1 | CutMeOwnThroat: I installed the correct proprietary and open source drivers for my radeon; the performance is not terrible -- it's simply not equal to the amount I spent on this computer overall; thanks for the tip about ##hardware |
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| 20:44.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | sign... |
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| 20:51.51 | rypervenche | How can I choose Xfce in the new Debian Jessie installer? The Alternate Desktop option is gone. |
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| 20:54.44 | incubus | hello. is there a way to disable avahi daemon other than remove it from the sistem (i'm on debian8)? I've tryed with systemctl disable avahi-daemon, AVAHI_DAEMON_DETECT_LOCAL=0 and update-rc.d -f avahi-daemon remove but after a reboot, it's till up and running.... |
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| 20:59.40 | veverak | hi folks |
| 20:59.45 | veverak | there is one thing I am confused about |
| 20:59.56 | veverak | systemd doesn't have git-daemon unit? |
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| 21:00.03 | nezZario | Ok I really screwed the pooch here. I just did a fresh reinstall and my audio devices are missing. Both systems were jessie. The only thing that I may have screwed up is that I removed the contents of my home directory at one point and re-copied /etc/skel, and there is no ~/.pulse directory |
| 21:00.34 | greycat | you shouldn't need pulse to have audio devices in /dev |
| 21:00.48 | nezZario | I mean in the alsa |
| 21:01.08 | nezZario | It just says HDA Intel, before it showed two devices, I don't remember what it said, though |
| 21:02.15 | imMute | veverak: 1) it's not systemd's job to provide unit files for other software 2) such a unit file would be pretty easy to write, give it a try yourself :) |
| 21:02.25 | veverak | nah |
| 21:02.27 | veverak | too lazy |
| 21:02.35 | veverak | let me copy that from another distro |
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| 21:03.31 | veverak | btw: where I should put unit files in debian? |
| 21:04.10 | imMute | /etc/systemd/system probably |
| 21:04.40 | DasEi | veverak: libgit-repository-perl |
| 21:04.49 | greycat | If it's just a local unit file for your one system, and you're not modifying the package itself, then yeah, put it in /etc. |
| 21:05.03 | veverak | DasEi: ? |
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| 21:06.07 | DasEi | veverak: Perl interface to Git repositories , or did Iget you wrong ? |
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| 21:14.38 | ahop | Hi! |
| 21:14.54 | ahop | What is the default Debian Jessie (server, no GUI, no gnome) network manager package ? |
| 21:15.00 | ahop | that is installed by default? |
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| 21:17.08 | DasEi | network-mannager ahop |
| 21:17.27 | DasEi | manager* |
| 21:17.50 | ahop | DasEi: does it use /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 21:17.55 | ahop | or another system? |
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| 21:18.33 | DasEi | ahop: yes |
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| 21:20.05 | ahop | DasEi: do you use Jessie? |
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| 21:21.39 | DasEi | ahop: wheezy still, I got it in a vm, and I won't dist-upgrade before my second box is repaired, for the case sth gets wrong |
| 21:21.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | ahop, are you asking for the image? |
| 21:21.49 | veverak | DasEi: kist syste,d imot ") |
| 21:22.03 | veverak | g105b: imMute: thanks! |
| 21:22.10 | ahop | CutMeOwnThroat: nono |
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| 21:24.49 | DasEi | veverak: I don't understand |
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| 21:33.21 | wakennn | hi, how do you use github/debian folders to create a deb pkg? |
| 21:33.36 | linuxthefish | why is there a bug in debian that when eth0 is configured with a static IP, and wlan0 is configured with a static IP i can only get networking for a few seconds on startup then both ethernet and wireless die? |
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| 21:35.45 | imMute | wakennn: do you want to just build a package, or do you want to understand how it works so you can make modifications? |
| 21:36.11 | wakennn | both actually, but I can start learning how to make one for today |
| 21:36.38 | imMute | wakennn: https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging start there. then try packaging a simple "Hello World" script. |
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| 21:37.34 | linuxthefish | wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant0.conf should be fine but instead it does this stupid roaming stuff... |
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| 21:41.19 | x478437790 | hi .. did anyone answer me? my irce ckient seem to have kept.only 50 lines |
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| 21:43.36 | x478437790 | my problem is that my screen go blank and dont come back. I wrote 'xset dpms force standby' and then enter and moved thw mosw and thwn thw screen became visible again. how to resolve this? |
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| 21:43.50 | DasEi | x478437790: I didn't see it least, so repeat |
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| 21:44.12 | linuxthefish | isn't the whole point of wireless for it to work without ethernet? yet why does debian only bring wireless up with ethernet cable plugged in? |
| 21:44.22 | linuxthefish | they are BOTH auto and allow hotplug |
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| 21:45.47 | x4784377903 | got disconnected again |
| 21:45.53 | DasEi | x478437790: I want to leave here soon, screensaver ?? else check the logs in/etc/logs and try with dpkg-reconfigure |
| 21:47.46 | Neffi | I'm new to Debian and interested in learning the system. Is the Administrator's Handbook still largely relevant to Jessie, or should I consult other sources? https://debian-handbook.info/ |
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| 21:48.31 | x4784377903 | there is a screen saver, but it is set to go after 30 minutes, but this happens after few seconds, and thwn the screen don't come back when moving the mouae or pressing keys |
| 21:48.33 | invlpg[1] | why when im watching youtube, something is downloaded and my ssd, which is mounted on /, is used? |
| 21:48.53 | tormen | Hi. I am going crazy... dnsmasq is complaining that it can't read a file (strace shows : open("/etc/dnsmasq.resolv.conf", O_RDONLY) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)) ... but the file is chmod 0644 world-readable... and dnsmasq should run as nobody and nobody can cat the file... |
| 21:49.05 | tormen | I don't get it :((( |
| 21:49.08 | srg | Neffi: Not sure about that website (I've never used or heard of it), but there's definitely official debian docs and just general googling of tasks and/or error messages and such |
| 21:49.24 | x4784377903 | DasEi^ |
| 21:49.28 | DasEi | x4784377903: any special energy-saving settings ? else see above, I get tired, sry |
| 21:49.42 | Neffi | srg: It seems to be fairly popular and is linked to from https://www.debian.org/doc/books. It looked like the best starting point of everything available |
| 21:49.53 | tormen | sudo -u nobody cat "/etc/dnsmasq.resolv.conf" works ! |
| 21:49.59 | tormen | How can that be ? |
| 21:50.45 | srg | Neffi: The FAQ on that website says it's for Wheezy. I'd say it'd be good to use along with the changelog for wheezy->jessie to suppliment (like the switch from sysvinit to systemd, for example) |
| 21:51.22 | wakennn | https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging <- this seems like a lot of steps and tedious, repeating work for building a deb from github. |
| 21:51.44 | wakennn | or wait... |
| 21:52.14 | wakennn | github projects that have a /debian have these steps done for me? |
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| 21:52.35 | nadu | hi |
| 21:52.42 | nadu | what's the default mount folder in debian? |
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| 21:52.52 | nadu | '/media'? |
| 21:53.02 | srg | nadu: default for what? I mount my removable media to /mnt |
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| 21:53.10 | srg | like /mnt/usb, /mnt/backup, etc |
| 21:53.20 | invlpg[1] | why when im watching youtube, something is downloaded and my ssd, which is mounted on /, is used? |
| 21:53.32 | nadu | I want to mount a network share for backups |
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| 21:54.07 | bleb | hey, I'm trying to use Aether (http://getaether.net/). I installed the .deb with dpkg -i, but now when I try to run /usr/bin/aether/Aether, I get: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/bin/aether/libz.so.1) -- any tips on how to fix this? Has anyone else gotten Aether runner? |
| 21:54.14 | x4784377903 | DasEiil, I don't know if there are special settings |
| 21:54.26 | tormen | Anybody ? |
| 21:54.28 | nadu | and I can't decide wich folder to mount it, so I though dropping in here to ask what's the default folder designed for this |
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| 21:54.55 | tormen | nadu: /mnt/my-network-share |
| 21:55.38 | x4784377903 | ok, then tomorrow, good night |
| 21:55.42 | srg | invlpg[1]: I don't know. What browser? Flash or HTML5? |
| 21:55.50 | tormen | nadu: there is no default folder designed to mount a network share. You can create one :) |
| 21:55.53 | srg | invlpg[1]: How do you know something is downloaded? |
| 21:55.57 | nadu | ok thanks :) I was just wondering. debian documentation is using /mnt/foo. ubuntu documentation /media/bar lol :) |
| 21:56.21 | invlpg[1] | srg, im running "watch" with df |
| 21:56.25 | invlpg[1] | and IceWeasel |
| 21:56.28 | nadu | I'll use /mnt/smb-my-share now :D |
| 21:56.30 | tormen | nadu: Ubuntu likes to use /media ... but as its not a media, but a network share, I'd stick with /mnt |
| 21:56.46 | tormen | nadu: have fun :) |
| 21:57.26 | nadu | thanks, I will :) |
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| 21:57.38 | srg | invlpg[1]: maybe it's iceweasel. Try using lsof to see what it's writing |
| 21:57.47 | tormen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:01.54 | invlpg[1] | srg, i dunno, there are couple of files under /run |
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| 22:02.07 | invlpg[1] | srg, but it is supposed to be tmpfs so not on /dev/sda2 which my ssd |
| 22:02.10 | invlpg[1] | i ran cat proc maps |
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| 22:02.37 | vandox | invlpg[1]: iceweasel stores videos in /tmp |
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| 22:02.47 | vandox | At least for flash videos |
| 22:02.51 | wakennn | I am struggling to install qtile from github... |
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| 22:03.04 | wakennn | anyone running qtile in here? |
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| 22:04.44 | pullphinger | ChrisH that's was I was thinking. was also looking at the newer 13" chromebooks, cause of the weight and batter life |
| 22:05.02 | linuxthefish | where can i report bugs that don't belong to a package? |
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| 22:05.59 | linuxthefish | high volume mailing list debian users sounds like a great place for security issues |
| 22:06.28 | srg | I think the reportbug packages allows for packageless bugs? I might be mistaken though. |
| 22:06.34 | srg | s/packages/package |
| 22:07.40 | invlpg[1] | vandox, hmm i see |
| 22:07.51 | invlpg[1] | vandox, i don't have /tmp |
| 22:07.58 | invlpg[1] | vandox, oh sorry i do |
| 22:08.08 | invlpg[1] | and it is on the ssd for some reason! |
| 22:08.12 | invlpg[1] | any ideas how to move it? |
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| 22:08.24 | invlpg[1] | or how i can erase those from there? |
| 22:08.53 | ziGuy | Hi all, Anyone have an idea how to load debian JESSIE from RAM? The steps in the following link doesn't work (even after fixing some inconsistencies) |
| 22:08.53 | ziGuy | http://reboot.pro/topic/14547-linux-load-your-root-partition-to-ram-and-boot-it/ |
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| 22:09.33 | invlpg[1] | vandox, im not seeing them there |
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| 22:10.23 | invlpg[1] | why is /tmp not a tmpfs and rather it is stored on ssd? |
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| 22:12.32 | wakennn | dpkg-source: error: can't build with source format '3.0 (quilt)': no upstream tarball found at ... <- where to get the upstream tarball from github.com? |
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| 22:16.21 | linuxthefish | yeah reportbugs package is not good as my ISP blocks mail... |
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| 22:18.01 | MrMonkey31 | hey does the ext family of fs really store access time as an attribute each and every time any file at all is accessed by any process? is there a usual way to defeat that feature that a process can use? |
| 22:18.38 | invlpg[1] | should i be moving /tmp to harddisk or ram or to keep it on ssd? |
| 22:18.48 | invlpg[1] | it is on my ssd right now |
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| 22:21.35 | acu | I run debian jexxie amd64 - and cannot transfer files from nautilus to the android - I get this error - libmtp error: Could not send object. -- what should I do ? |
| 22:22.26 | nadu | which package provides /sbin/mount.cifs? |
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| 22:24.04 | ziGuy | sorry, got disconnected. Anyone have an idea how to load debian JESSIE from RAM? The steps in the following link doesn't work (even after fixing some inconsistencies) |
| 22:24.04 | ziGuy | http://reboot.pro/topic/14547-linux-load-your-root-partition-to-ram-and-boot-it/ |
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| 22:25.24 | StanleyGoodman | palemoon-1@localhost's password: Permission denied (publickey,password). ================ what is going on? I made an ssh key with no password |
| 22:26.11 | acu | nadu something like samba |
| 22:26.16 | acu | !samba |
| 22:26.16 | dpkg | Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ http://samba.org/samba/docs/ http://wiki.samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <swat>, <dfs>. |
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| 22:27.12 | nadu | Well, I only want to mount a cifs share, but it looks like I will have to install samba as well |
| 22:27.24 | srg | StanleyGoodman: sshkeys with no password isn't safe. However, it seems your ssh client isn't supplying the private key. |
| 22:28.19 | srg | StanleyGoodman: Can you pastebin the output of `grep Auth /etc/ssh/sshd_config` / |
| 22:28.22 | srg | ? |
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| 22:30.51 | StanleyGoodman | srg, I am just trying to SSH into a chroot - is that unsafe? the iptables firewall should prevent any intrusions.... but security is best in layers |
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| 22:31.50 | srg | StanleyGoodman: personally, I'm a bit paranoid...I use keepass to store my (randomly generated) passwords that are all 64 characters long for my ssh keys and passphrases, lol. but if it's a chroot and a firewall...it's probably ok. you'll have to assess the risk and see what it's worth to you |
| 22:32.09 | Scramblejams | Anybody here an expert on unattended-upgrade? |
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| 22:41.46 | StanleyGoodman | srg, I need to start using a password manager anyway. that's really a better way to go about this. |
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| 22:42.07 | lalala7 | hi |
| 22:42.09 | lalala7 | where in the debian installer process do I instruct the target for GRUB install? It apparently tries to install it to the where the distro is being installed , which is /dev/sdb , instead of /dev/sda . It's installed with the Guided partitioning, LVM and crypto. Can I retrace it back and point to where put GRUB ? |
| 22:42.23 | srg | i really like keepass2. I use it on my debian laptop, and I also have it portable on a USB drive for use on windows machines (on campus, work, etc) |
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| 22:49.09 | lalala7 | any clue? |
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| 22:52.26 | jhutchins | lalala7: It's usually at the end of the install. |
| 22:52.29 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 22:52.30 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 22:52.47 | jhutchins | lalala7: You can use that process to fix it if you've completed the install. It's supposed to ask. |
| 22:52.56 | jhutchins | lalala7: Jessie (8)? |
| 22:53.07 | lalala7 | yes |
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| 22:54.41 | jhutchins | StanleyGoodman: Keys are more secure than passwords. |
| 22:54.53 | lalala7 | jhutchins: do I follow the dpkg advice while the installer is still running? |
| 22:55.00 | jhutchins | StanleyGoodman: Sounds like you didn't get the keys set up right. |
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| 22:55.41 | jhutchins | StanleyGoodman: On the other hand, I'm not sure the chroot has access to localhost. |
| 22:56.02 | veverak | hmm |
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| 22:56.16 | veverak | I have folder,made by gitolite3 which which is owned by git:git |
| 22:56.21 | veverak | and got 720 |
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| 22:56.32 | veverak | i added www-data to git group |
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| 22:56.34 | veverak | restarted nginx |
| 22:56.44 | veverak | and still, website reports "ermission denied" on that folder |
| 22:56.51 | veverak | any tips what could be wrong? |
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| 22:57.55 | jhutchins | veverak: can you access it as www-data? |
| 22:58.18 | jhutchins | veverak: Is nginx running as www-data? |
| 22:58.21 | veverak | can't su www-data |
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| 22:58.41 | veverak | yep, it is |
| 22:59.00 | jhutchins | veverak: Could be permissions within nginx then, check the nginx logs. |
| 22:59.21 | lalala7 | jhutchins: mistake , it's wheezy |
| 22:59.30 | veverak | "PHP message: PHP Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'UnexpectedValueException' with message 'DirectoryIterator::__construct(/var/lib/gitolite3/repositories/): failed to open dir: Permission denied' in /var/www/gitlist/src/GitList/Git/Client.php:58 |
| 22:59.38 | veverak | looks pretty PHP error to me... D: |
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| 23:00.36 | nadu | I'd like to backup data from user www-data and group www-data |
| 23:00.57 | jhutchins | nadu: Ok. |
| 23:01.16 | nadu | I thought I switch the user to www-data, but it won't let me |
| 23:01.22 | nadu | it says the account is not available |
| 23:01.30 | veverak | jhutchins: nothing else in nginx log btw |
| 23:01.32 | jhutchins | nadu: Do it as root. |
| 23:01.58 | nadu | jhutchins: root gets 'permission denied' on the folders |
| 23:02.02 | jhutchins | veverak: Increase the logging level. |
| 23:02.17 | jhutchins | nadu: If root gets permission denied you have problems. |
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| 23:02.33 | jhutchins | nadu: Either the files are locked for writing, or there is a problem with the filesystem. |
| 23:04.03 | jhutchins | nadu: Check for how to set folder permissions in nginx. |
| 23:04.04 | veverak | jhutchins: practically same info as I posted |
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| 23:04.40 | jhutchins | veverak:: Check for how to set folder permissions in nginx. |
| 23:04.56 | veverak | hard to accept it |
| 23:05.01 | veverak | but "systemctl reboot" solved the problem |
| 23:05.03 | jhutchins | nadu: Sorry, wrong nick. |
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| 23:05.41 | nadu | no problem ;) |
| 23:05.56 | nadu | but it would be a lot of files being locked. The exact error is Permission denied (13) |
| 23:06.25 | jhutchins | nadu: Is the web server running? |
| 23:07.41 | nadu | I just shut it down, but it are the same files with problems |
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| 23:08.01 | jhutchins | nadu: That implies you're trying to access it with the web server. What are you using to access them? |
| 23:09.14 | lalala7 | jhutchins: do I follow the dpkg advice while the installer is still running? |
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| 23:09.56 | jhutchins | lalala7: No, go ahead and complete the install. It will suggest the device it's installing to, but it should allow you to change it. |
| 23:10.36 | nadu | jhutchins: just found the problem |
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| 23:11.09 | nadu | it's caused, as rsync wants to change permissions on the cifs share... |
| 23:11.15 | lalala7 | jhutchins: in fact GRUB is already on /dev/sda installed there by Mint 17, may be it's easier to add an entry to it's menu/config for booting debian off /dev/sdb? |
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| 23:12.17 | jhutchins | lalala7: You still have mint? |
| 23:12.53 | lalala7 | jhutchins: yes it's still there , just for a trial test, I can erase it , no biggie |
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| 23:19.10 | gswain_ | how can i change the default locale to be en_US.UTF8 |
| 23:19.43 | srg | gswain_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 23:20.05 | srg | You might have to `sudo dpkg-reconfigure debconf` to set the level to low if it doesn't ask you for the default locale. |
| 23:20.13 | gswain_ | tried that it didnt work |
| 23:20.13 | srg | I don't remember (I always set my debconf to low priority) |
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| 23:20.29 | gswain_ | ah |
| 23:21.24 | gswain_ | meh i had to reboot to get it to take effect |
| 23:21.30 | gswain_ | I wonder if there is another way |
| 23:21.35 | gswain_ | to do it without rebooting |
| 23:21.56 | srg | hm, not sure |
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| 23:25.53 | lalala7 | jhutchins: mint's grub.cfg is convoluted, is there a simple way to add an entry without all those 'if' this and that conditions and the rest of the complications? |
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| 23:35.25 | lalala7 | the Mint grub.cfg has all kinda insmods and if's in the menuentry |
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| 23:52.44 | JohnnyL | how long should `mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/mmcblk0` take? |
| 23:53.10 | veverak | nah, tricky to setup rights |
| 23:53.16 | veverak | tricky |
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