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| 00:03.26 | at0m|c | ,v bitchx |
| 00:03.27 | judd | No package named 'bitchx' was found in amd64. |
| 00:04.22 | grinchier | anybody got any good apparmor profiles for debian? |
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| 00:18.41 | n-st | i keep getting connections to port 587 (smtp-submission) on my mailserver from the same remote system every 60 seconds: |
| 00:18.42 | n-st | Jun 18 02:15:34 rho postfix/submission/smtpd[4138]: connect from mail.example.com[123.123.123.123] |
| 00:18.42 | n-st | Jun 18 02:15:34 rho postfix/submission/smtpd[4138]: lost connection after STARTTLS from mail.example.com[123.123.123.123] |
| 00:18.42 | n-st | Jun 18 02:15:34 rho postfix/submission/smtpd[4138]: disconnect from mail.example.com[123.123.123.123] |
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| 00:19.31 | n-st | here's the twist: i'm one of the co-admins of that remote system and i'm not aware of any periodic tasks that would connect to my mailserver. how can i find out what's doing this? |
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| 00:20.31 | at0m|c | n-st: cron? nagios? |
| 00:21.13 | somiaj | n-st: yea check cron (note uses have crontabs too which are not int he same place as normal crontabs so it could be some users crontab) |
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| 00:22.00 | at0m|c | su -l processuser -c 'crontab -l" |
| 00:22.53 | n-st | all cron activity should be logged in the syslog, right? nothing pertinent in there |
| 00:23.29 | n-st | and we're not running any monitoring tools on the mailserver
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| 00:23.52 | n-st | if the requests were coming from the monitoring vm, fine. but from the mailserver? :/ |
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| 00:24.05 | hydhydhyd | pardon me, m'ladies |
| 00:24.25 | hydhydhyd | *tips whatever* |
| 00:24.48 | hydhydhyd | what is the debian talking channel? my m'computer went m'fucked |
| 00:25.06 | hydhydhyd | as in talking. not explaining how you got there |
| 00:25.28 | somiaj | hydhydhyd: this is a debian support channel, please clarify your debian emergency. Also watch your langauge. |
| 00:25.38 | somiaj | hydhydhyd: what is the problem with your debian install. What is it you are trying to do. |
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| 00:26.11 | hydhydhyd | people, you were literally pushing me towards a more social debian channel |
| 00:26.21 | hydhydhyd | now you're not even going to name it? |
| 00:26.35 | hydhydhyd | I don't have a problem with Debian. Debian works fine, ffs. |
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| 00:27.18 | hydhydhyd | I had a totally random reboot |
| 00:27.21 | hydhydhyd | and lost the channel |
| 00:27.27 | hydhydhyd | so would you kindly help me? |
| 00:27.43 | somiaj | hydhydhyd: If you are just looking for offtopic chat you can try #debian-offtopic. There are also other offtopic channels on this network. |
| 00:27.43 | at0m|c | reboot from your webclient? |
| 00:27.51 | grinchier | #debian-offtopic |
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| 00:28.20 | hydhydhyd | what I mean was #debian-offtopic |
| 00:28.38 | hydhydhyd | thanks to a certain member |
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| 00:30.04 | n-st | regarding the odd connections to mailserver:587: netstat -nputwc on the source system prints "tcp 0 0 132.231.1.31:52793 84.200.43.138:587 TIME_WAIT -" shouldn't root be able to see the associated process in the last column? |
| 00:31.37 | somiaj | n-st: so the user or prcess mailserver is running netstat on your remote server. Could be just checking it to make sure it is alive for some reason. |
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| 00:33.35 | n-st | somiaj: no, i was referring to the issue i mentioned ten minutes ago: a mailserver at my university (that i happen to be a co-admin of) keeps connecting to the smtp-submission port on my own mailserver once per minute. i'm trying to find out what's causing this, but running netstat on the university mailserver doesn't give me a process name for the connection |
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| 00:34.36 | somiaj | n-st: oh I thought this was from the logs of the other server. Look at that servers logs/proccess |
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| 00:34.50 | somiaj | n-st: netstat won't tell you what processes are running on the other server, only tell you what ports are open |
| 00:35.14 | n-st | somiaj: but what local process is/was handling that connection? |
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| 00:36.10 | n-st | something on 132.231.1.31 connected to 84.200.43.138:587 and got assigned port 52793 to do so. but what process initiated that connection? |
| 00:36.35 | somiaj | n-st: go to the server that is making this process and look in the logs |
| 00:37.37 | n-st | somiaj: there isn't anything in syslog, so it's not a cronjob. there isn't anything in mail.log, so it shouldn't be postfix/dovecot either (and those should be connecting to port 25, not 587). i have no idea where else to look
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| 00:38.17 | somiaj | watch the running processes. |
| 00:38.27 | somiaj | is someone running fetchmail? |
| 00:38.39 | somiaj | or some email client that checkes for updates every 60 seconds |
| 00:38.49 | somiaj | these won't log as they are user programs |
| 00:40.33 | grinchier | n-st: if its happening real often, you can catch it with lsof -i if you keep doing it |
| 00:41.16 | grinchier | otherwise auditd I guess. nethogs possibly, or the kernel module netatop |
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| 00:43.07 | n-st | what's really bothering me is that netstat doesn't report the process (like it does for all other connections) even that one time when i caught the connection in an established state rather than time_wait |
| 00:43.18 | grinchier | because its probalby shortlived |
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| 00:45.11 | grinchier | just keep typing lsof -i, if its happening every few second syou will see it |
| 00:46.25 | grinchier | oh i see you said once per minute hmm |
| 00:47.03 | grinchier | just keep pressing the up arrow, and then enter, for 60 seconds, until you see it |
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| 00:47.48 | at0m|c | grinchier: watch - "execute a program periodically" |
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| 00:48.02 | grinchier | at0m|c: ? |
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| 00:48.16 | at0m|c | grinchier: watch does that for you. |
| 00:48.23 | Lady_Aleena | Hello, any major updates to Debian wheezy in the last 3 weeks? |
| 00:48.24 | grinchier | oh ok interesting |
| 00:48.26 | at0m|c | no need to keep pressing |
| 00:48.32 | grinchier | too complicated lol |
| 00:48.37 | grinchier | up arrow, enter, = simple |
| 00:48.42 | grinchier | and fast lol |
| 00:48.52 | n-st | grinchier: while true; do lsof -i | grep mail.example.com:submission; done |
| 00:48.54 | grinchier | lsof -i guarantee he sees the connection process |
| 00:49.09 | grinchier | good luck with that lol |
| 00:49.14 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: there haven't been major updates (except bug and security fixes) to wheezy in the last few years. Just normal stuff, there have been a handfull of DSA including updates, not sure which ones effect wheezy, just apt-get update && apt-get upgrade to keep your packages up to date. |
| 00:49.18 | grinchier | i'd just keep hitting enter for 60 seconds dude |
| 00:49.47 | grinchier | hi Lady_Aleena |
| 00:49.50 | n-st | grinchier: and `tcpdump -A 'tcp port 587'` on the other system. just got a connection there, but didn't catch it with lsof |
| 00:49.59 | grinchier | tcpdump won't tell you pid or anything about process |
| 00:50.16 | Lady_Aleena | somiaj, I guess I should. I haven't been at my Debian machine much in the last 3 weeks because sitting in this chair has been painful to my hip. |
| 00:50.24 | grinchier | lsof -i enter, up arrow, enter, up arrow enter, there is no way you can miss it |
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| 00:51.02 | n-st | grinchier: i'm still running the while-loop, and it missed two connections already |
| 00:51.11 | grinchier | well you didn't do what I said apparenlty |
| 00:51.15 | grinchier | good luck |
| 00:51.15 | Lady_Aleena | ACK! "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. " |
| 00:51.26 | Lady_Aleena | Hello grinchier. |
| 00:53.07 | Lady_Aleena | Darn it! It happened again! "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem." How do figure out where my configuration went buggy while I was gone? |
| 00:53.56 | grinchier | Lady_Aleena: are you trying to install a specific program? |
| 00:54.32 | grinchier | is there no more to the message at the end? |
| 00:54.37 | Lady_Aleena | Here is the paste for sudo dpkg --configure -a: http://paste.debian.net/236115/ |
| 00:55.04 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, I was just doing sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 00:55.41 | grinchier | hmm well I know i had similar problem updating a kernel when nvidia proprietary drivers were installed |
| 00:56.02 | grinchier | looks like its not recognizing your nvidia driver? |
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| 00:56.22 | Lady_Aleena | So how do I get around it? |
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| 00:57.36 | grinchier | umm |
| 00:57.57 | Lady_Aleena | Or do I just stop updating and upgrading? |
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| 00:58.11 | IanTee | apt-get install -f ? |
| 00:58.31 | Lady_Aleena | IanTee, what does that do? |
| 00:58.39 | grinchier | what card do you have? |
| 00:58.44 | IanTee | tries to fix any missing packs |
| 00:58.56 | grinchier | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 00:58.58 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, I think nvidia. |
| 00:59.12 | grinchier | ya i meant what model |
| 00:59.18 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, no idea. |
| 00:59.32 | IanTee | lspci |
| 00:59.34 | grinchier | lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 00:59.39 | IanTee | or that :P |
| 00:59.47 | grinchier | i'm just reading the link lol |
| 01:00.01 | Lady_Aleena | 03:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] [10de:10c3] (rev a2) |
| 01:00.18 | grinchier | is that considered legacy I guess? |
| 01:00.52 | grinchier | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free < < add to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:01.20 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, I have no clue. I might have to wait until my hip is better healed before I dive into fixing things. I don't have a high tolerance for pain in any form at the moment. |
| 01:01.28 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, I'm on wheezy. |
| 01:01.38 | IanTee | go jessie then! :D |
| 01:01.39 | grinchier | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free |
| 01:01.53 | grinchier | aptitude update |
| 01:01.56 | Lady_Aleena | IanTee, can I recover from hip replacement surgery first? |
| 01:01.56 | grinchier | aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,') |
| 01:02.01 | grinchier | aptitude -t wheezy-backports -r install nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 01:02.36 | Lady_Aleena | I was told to move from apt-get to aptitude, then went under the knife so never got around to it. |
| 01:02.44 | grinchier | lol |
| 01:02.53 | grinchier | oh under the knife literally? |
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| 01:02.57 | somiaj | note on jessie the newer xorg isn't compadable with some of the older legacy nvidia drivers. On older cards switching to nouveau is sugested |
| 01:02.58 | grinchier | all is well? |
| 01:03.17 | somiaj | I'm unsure if the 8400 falls into the list of cards that is still supported by the legacy drivers or not (I think on wheezy this is fine and the legacy package works) |
| 01:03.29 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, yes. I had my hip sliced open, a part of my bone removed, and a titanium part inserted. |
| 01:04.03 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: most use them both, apt-get is quick and simple. For more complex things sometimes aptitude is better. In that case you could use apt-get or aptitude, they would both do the same thing (since it is the shell getting the correct package name) |
| 01:04.07 | grinchier | oh wow you like a female wolverine now |
| 01:04.29 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, not even close. |
| 01:04.33 | grinchier | lol |
| 01:04.55 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, I wouldn't be in as much pain right now. |
| 01:05.07 | grinchier | aww |
| 01:05.26 | grinchier | are you still programming websites? |
| 01:05.30 | Lady_Aleena | somiaj, so it doesn't matter when updating and upgrading except now I use a legacy driver which is screwing everything up. |
| 01:05.32 | somiaj | we are off topic, (: |
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| 01:06.01 | grinchier | Lady_Aleena: just go to that link when you ready and follow the directions for wheezy |
| 01:06.04 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: nope, you can get more info with /msg dpkg why apt-get, /msg dpkg why aptitude, /msg dpkg why not apt-get, /msg dpkg why not aptitude. |
| 01:06.27 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: in general the only time it matters is duing a dist-upgrade from one release to the next, and in this case follow the release notes. |
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| 01:07.44 | grinchier | Lady_Aleena: i remember you, perl is your fav yes? |
| 01:08.07 | LordShiva | Lady_Aleena, if you stop installation by hand using ^C or by editing |
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| 01:08.14 | grinchier | and I remember you are great with words lol |
| 01:08.29 | somiaj | grinchier: note if you are trying to spark off-topic conversation use #debian-offtopic and keep it to a minimimum here. (: |
| 01:08.34 | grinchier | sorry |
| 01:09.25 | LordShiva | Lady_Aleena, some of installed files or removing them so that postrm cannot be executed or postinstall you should locate postrm pf offending package edit it or remove or create needed files by hand. |
| 01:09.47 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, yes, perl is my favorite and only programming language. |
| 01:09.56 | grinchier | :) |
| 01:10.00 | LordShiva | That is only big problem of dpkg as a binary package manager its smart but not that much as emerge :) |
| 01:10.42 | Lady_Aleena | ACK! Too much technical stuff at the link.I get to #3 and my head explodes. |
| 01:11.10 | LordShiva | Btw Lady_Aleena you are working as the system admin or just enjoy using Debian? |
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| 01:11.15 | grinchier | Lady_Aleena: what is the full error message that tells you to run the --configure -a |
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| 01:11.50 | Lady_Aleena | LordShiva, I'm using Debian because its free while Windows 7/8 aren't. |
| 01:11.55 | phix | 9 |
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| 01:12.15 | Lady_Aleena | E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. |
| 01:12.25 | grinchier | windows 10 is free right now but I wouldn't recommend it |
| 01:12.40 | grinchier | Lady_Aleena: thats all it says nothing else? |
| 01:12.49 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, it worked this time. |
| 01:12.55 | grinchier | cool |
| 01:12.55 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, that was all. |
| 01:13.22 | Lady_Aleena | I ran the command it told me too, I just hadn't run it again because you all showed all kinds of shiney objects. |
| 01:13.30 | grinchier | haha |
| 01:14.27 | Lady_Aleena | BTW, I am also in #debian-offtopic if you want to chat with me about offtopicy stuff. :) |
| 01:14.27 | phix | Lady_Aleena: python <3 |
| 01:14.35 | Lady_Aleena | phix, no. |
| 01:14.35 | somiaj | Lady_Aleena: I would listen to it, sounds like something caused an install to not fully omplete. |
| 01:14.46 | grinchier | ya its happened to me before |
| 01:15.02 | grinchier | as long as it worked now |
| 01:15.41 | Lady_Aleena | grinchier, somiaj, LordShiva, I'm installing all kinds of things now. |
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| 01:40.32 | hydddd | I do apologize. I forgot the #debian-not-so-serious channel name |
| 01:40.45 | sc_ | probably -offtopic |
| 01:40.54 | hydddd | that must've been it. |
| 01:40.58 | sc_ | hopefully |
| 01:41.13 | hydddd | I'm channeling to you via the web. |
| 01:41.21 | sc_ | you are incredible. |
| 01:41.22 | hydddd | so I don't have a proper client. |
| 01:41.29 | sc_ | Irssi 0.8.17-head (20140702) - http://irssi.org/ |
| 01:41.31 | hydddd | yep, know that. |
| 01:42.08 | xj54y | Hey.. So I read through the whole systemd debate.. I'd like to get your take on it. |
| 01:42.14 | hydddd | you're very much a friendlier bunch than those #debian-whatever people |
| 01:42.37 | hydddd | in my times, there wasn't a systemd |
| 01:43.11 | hydddd | like, literally |
| 01:43.16 | somiaj | hydddd: if you don't have a debian support question, please keep the signal to noise ratio down. |
| 01:43.34 | hydddd | will do, darling, will do |
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| 01:44.44 | hydddd | okay, on to the proper questions |
| 01:45.14 | hydddd | I was never one for XWindow, so I'm kinda unfamiliar with that |
| 01:45.27 | hydddd | what would be a fair replacement for notepad++? |
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| 01:45.47 | hydddd | gedit seems to be okay. syntax highlighting, all that. |
| 01:45.54 | xj54y | hydddd, Vim, Emacs, etc |
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| 01:46.26 | somiaj | hydddd: there are lots of different text editors with syntax hilighting and other tools. The standard contenders are vim and emacs in the linux world. though there is gedit, nano, kedit, and so on and so forth. Find a list, try them until you find one you like. Note you may have to give up some features. |
| 01:46.36 | somiaj | hydddd: or just be carzy and run notepad++ in wine, (: |
| 01:46.41 | hydddd | xj54y: I'm rather fluent at vi, clueless about emacs. we're not going to have that discussion. WISYWIG editors, multitab editors at that |
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| 01:47.13 | hydddd | I'm not going to run anything in Wine |
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| 01:47.24 | xj54y | hydddd, emacs and evil. Check it out. |
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| 01:47.49 | somiaj | if you like vi, then check out gvim, you can use this with various widgets, gtk beign the one I use. |
| 01:47.50 | hydddd | I did try to run sol.exe back in the 1990x and was left with a bitter dissapointment |
| 01:47.55 | xj54y | If you're familiar with Vi, seems you'll be more than satisfied. |
| 01:48.05 | hydddd | I did install gedit though |
| 01:48.20 | hydddd | it does indeed has multiple tabs |
| 01:48.46 | xj54y | Gedit is okay. As for a Notepad++ replacement though (assuming you want to play with all kinds of macros and plugins) certainly emacs is the way to go, if not vim itself. |
| 01:49.01 | xj54y | But, those are just two of so many. Check out the packages. |
| 01:49.49 | hydddd | but why the fuck do I have to fine-tune it as to auto-save via g-whatever obscure command is beyond me |
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| 01:50.00 | xj54y | https://wiki.debian.org/TextEditor |
| 01:50.17 | hydddd | I want a text editor with tabs |
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| 01:50.43 | hydddd | and syntax highting |
| 01:50.49 | hydddd | gedit does all that |
| 01:50.54 | hydddd | although in a weird manner |
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| 01:51.11 | somiaj | hydddd: go though the list finds one you like. Note vim and emacs are designed to run in a console, so they have ways to have multiple files open, but they don't do it via graphical tabs like you are wanting. Maybe just learn how they deal with it, and use vim is you like vi. |
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| 01:52.28 | hydddd | somiaj: I do 98% of my work in console, and that's where vim comes to play. However, it's not a quick "copy-paste" GTK text editor. |
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| 01:53.11 | hydddd | I need a multitab text editor. gedit seems okay. |
| 01:53.39 | sc_ | sublime text |
| 01:53.40 | bigfoot111 | hydddd, atom.io? |
| 01:53.53 | hydddd | gedit even does autosave |
| 01:54.26 | hydddd | I'm positive sublime also does, but it's not included in the packages |
| 01:54.34 | bigfoot111 | hydddd, what are you using it for? |
| 01:54.49 | hydddd | bigfoot111: pentesting |
| 01:55.04 | hydddd | so I need multiple tabs |
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| 01:55.25 | bigfoot111 | ah |
| 01:55.32 | somiaj | hydddd: use gvim |
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| 01:55.45 | bigfoot111 | Still going to recommmend https://atom.io/ |
| 01:55.48 | somiaj | hydddd: again its idea of 'tabs' are slightly different, but they are there. |
| 01:56.38 | hydddd | somiaj: absolutely won't. I use vim in the console. I need a more xwin oriented text editor. gvim did nothing for that. |
| 01:57.23 | hydddd | okay, we all have our workspace. I'm not talking you out of gvim or emacs. |
| 01:57.54 | hydddd | whatever suits the goal. |
| 01:58.19 | bigfoot111 | hydddd, atom? |
| 01:58.26 | bigfoot111 | :) |
| 01:58.29 | hydddd | bigfoot111: as in? |
| 01:58.44 | xj54y | somiaj, Emacs does not run in a console by default. No. |
| 01:58.46 | bigfoot111 | hydddd, the text editor |
| 01:58.52 | bigfoot111 | hydddd, https://atom.io/ |
| 01:58.58 | hydddd | I don't do javascript. |
| 01:59.03 | bigfoot111 | hydddd, neither do i |
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| 02:00.13 | hydddd | although with all the node.js vulnerabilities I probably should learn the basics. |
| 02:00.29 | somiaj | xj54y: emacs or xemacs, it is a console app that has a version that runs in x. |
| 02:00.34 | hydddd | still, I don't do XSS. |
| 02:00.39 | xj54y | somiaj, emacs. |
| 02:01.14 | hydddd | I know full well what emacs is. I'm not into that God. |
| 02:01.28 | xj54y | Then why are you asking such trivial questions? |
| 02:01.38 | xj54y | Just choose something and be productive. |
| 02:01.49 | xj54y | Vim and Emacs allow exactly for this. |
| 02:01.51 | hydddd | I'm productive okay. |
| 02:01.56 | somiaj | hydddd: keep your signal to noise down. You ahve been given a list and suggestions. Find one you like move on. |
| 02:02.24 | hydddd | calm down people, I entered with gedit and left with that |
| 02:02.56 | hydddd | didn't mean to stir your emacs/vi prejudices |
| 02:03.36 | hydddd | you've been exactly of zero help |
| 02:03.54 | hydddd | both of ya |
| 02:04.06 | somiaj | hydddd: last warning, keep your noise down. |
| 02:04.17 | hydddd | somiaj: as in? |
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| 02:04.35 | hydddd | I'm saying it like it was. do scroll up |
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| 02:05.12 | hydddd | the help provided was nil |
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| 02:09.06 | hiyo | somiaj: can I get some help? |
| 02:09.22 | dvs | we'll think about it. ;-) |
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| 02:09.49 | somiaj | hiyo: as always just ask your question. If someone knows they answer they usually try to help. |
| 02:10.47 | hiyo | I asked it quite a bit ago so I'll just repeat it then |
| 02:10.55 | hiyo | I have this error come up most of the time when I'm editing a rule in iptables "iptables: Bad rule (does a matching rule exist in that chain?)." |
| 02:11.07 | somiaj | hiyo: okay I see your question, I don't know the answer more than what the error said. The rule you are trying to add is not being accepted, maybe because you already have a similar rule in your chain. |
| 02:11.46 | somiaj | hiyo: there is ##networking and I think might even be a netfilter or more iptables channel (not sure on this) that may have better help than here. |
| 02:12.11 | hiyo | somiaj: I asked there, they referred me here since I was using ufw which is maintained by debian |
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| 02:13.43 | hiyo | somiaj: and I have very little iptables experience, just copy and pasted some commands one time for OpenVPN and that's it. |
| 02:13.44 | somiaj | ahh, so you are using a frontend, yea unsure what the issue is. I would check the chain and make sure you aren't adding a duplicate rule |
| 02:14.04 | somiaj | I don't know iptables well enough to be of much help, but you need to maybe share some output, give the output of your current chain and the rule you are trying to add |
| 02:14.11 | hiyo | somiaj: I don't even know how to check the chain |
| 02:14.13 | somiaj | I bet if you gave this details to ##networking you would get a better reponse. |
| 02:14.21 | somiaj | hiyo: iptables -L I think is the command |
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| 02:14.40 | somiaj | yea that will list the INPUT, FORWARD and OUTPUT chain |
| 02:16.08 | hiyo | it's taking a bit... |
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| 02:16.41 | hiyo | maybe I should pipe it... |
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| 02:17.59 | hiyo | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/uqBkX5MS |
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| 02:18.18 | Fr3d3r1c | hello i have a prob to access to a linked directory |
| 02:18.47 | Fr3d3r1c | i have used this command : ln -s sourcedirectory targeteddirectory |
| 02:18.56 | Fr3d3r1c | can you help me |
| 02:19.50 | somiaj | hiyo: yea I'm not the person to look at it, I dont' know iptables well enough. I'm just saying give more info besides the fact youare using some front end. Say here is my current chain and here is the rule that is giving me an error. Maybe someone more knowledgable than I will spot your issue. |
| 02:20.11 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: so what is your problem. |
| 02:20.42 | somiaj | hiyo: yea that is a very complicated set of Chains, I woudln't know where to start. (: |
| 02:20.55 | hiyo | okay thanks, I'll try in netwroking |
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| 02:22.12 | Fr3d3r1c | somiaj, i can't access to the content of my linked directory |
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| 02:25.11 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: how you are trying to access this. Can y ou give the the outout of 'ls -ld targetdirectory' |
| 02:25.57 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: note I usually use ln -fs when making links, the force makes it so it removes the existing destination file/direcotry, if it was there it won't create a link. |
| 02:26.09 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: but this hsould be an issue, lets look at some output and see what is there. |
| 02:26.15 | Fr3d3r1c | you want the output message of the command "ls -ld targetdirectory" ? |
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| 02:27.01 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: yes |
| 02:30.07 | Fr3d3r1c | somiaj, http://paste.ubuntu.com/11733604/ |
| 02:30.24 | Fr3d3r1c | sorry but the debian pastebin doesn't work correctly |
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| 02:30.52 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: ahh the problem is your link is using a relative path, when you use a releatve path the path is relative to the location of the link |
| 02:31.28 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: so in your command you should have used /full/path/to/source/directory (or used a relative path with ../whaterver (again I don't know your fiel system so I can't say what the relative path would be) |
| 02:31.28 | Fr3d3r1c | not relative |
| 02:32.11 | somiaj | global_skripts/ is a relative path, it is releative to what ever the cwd is in. You need the full path or to make the path relative to the directory the link is in, full path will be the easiest for me to explain as I dont know your filesystem |
| 02:32.25 | Fr3d3r1c | when i create my symbolic link i make this : ln -s global_skripts/ /home/servers/mg_lobby/plugins/Skript/scripts/ |
| 02:32.25 | somiaj | in essence the link is pointing to itself |
| 02:32.58 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: correct global_skripts/ is a relative path, /home/servers/.../ is a full path. Make the global_skripts a full path and it will work |
| 02:33.04 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: what directory are you in when you run that command? |
| 02:33.29 | Fr3d3r1c | i understand |
| 02:33.36 | Fr3d3r1c | i will try the full path |
| 02:33.43 | Fr3d3r1c | wait a momenet please |
| 02:34.23 | somiaj | note you will need to either remove the existing link or use -fs to ensure the new link gets made |
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| 02:34.48 | Fr3d3r1c | thanks somiaj , it's work |
| 02:34.49 | Fr3d3r1c | :D |
| 02:35.09 | Fr3d3r1c | i have removed the old link before with a rm command |
| 02:35.16 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: yea this is the issue with links, the path is relative to the location of the path (unless you force it to be a full path by starting with /) |
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| 02:35.51 | Fr3d3r1c | I'm a happy french debian user :) |
| 02:36.21 | somiaj | Fr3d3r1c: for example if you wanted to make a link to /home/user/dir1 in the directory /home/user/dir2/ (i.e. the link will be /home/user/dir2/dir1) you can use 'ln -s /home/user/dir1 /home/user/dir2/dir1' or 'ln -s ../dir1 /home/user/dir2/dir1' |
| 02:36.36 | somiaj | since if you are inside of /home/user/dir2, you can get to /home/user/dir1 by the relative location ../dir1 |
| 02:37.12 | Fr3d3r1c | ok thanks for your explanations :) |
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| 03:04.46 | christinepea777 | anyone know of a app that will take a screen shot with the press of a button and then automatically store it in a certain directory? I want to take hundreds of screen shots without being interrupted by confirmation windows. |
| 03:05.48 | BuzzardBuzz | teamviewer can do that and it can do it local or remotely logged in |
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| 03:07.05 | BuzzardBuzz | its based on vnc |
| 03:07.31 | christinepea777 | BuzzardBuzz: thankyou |
| 03:07.40 | somiaj | christinepea777: there are many you can easily program. I suggest getting scrot and then making keybinding in your desktop/wm that runs a command using scrott when you press a key. |
| 03:07.53 | BuzzardBuzz | you can even record your sessions and play them back later |
| 03:08.20 | somiaj | and yes scrot has command line options to make it run quite, auto confirm, etc |
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| 03:09.42 | christinepea777 | yeah scrot looks pretty cool |
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| 03:41.39 | aRealFemaleOnThe | i am having issues with using systemd, whereas booting with sysVinit works fine. |
| 03:43.18 | IanTee | what sort of issues? |
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| 03:44.28 | aRealFemaleOnThe | rc0.d is not being processed properly - there are no messages on the screen during shutdown |
| 03:44.42 | wsky | that's normal i guess |
| 03:44.51 | wsky | (with systemd) |
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| 03:46.31 | aRealFemaleOnThe | I'm not debating whether or not it is normal, but a couple weeks ago it worked fine. |
| 03:47.29 | aRealFemaleOnThe | will there be any issues if I make sysVinit the default? making an alternate boot option my default seems a lot like booting into recovery/rescue all the time... not a good idea |
| 03:47.46 | wsky | i guess it should be ok for jessie |
| 03:48.02 | wsky | but it might become obsolete in stretch |
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| 04:31.51 | Vainglory | is there a good how-to on unattended-upgrades for jessie? |
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| 04:37.20 | BuzzardBuzz | One of the dangerous issues this this time is the replacement of init by systemd |
| 04:37.53 | aRealFemaleOnThe | buzzardbuzz, are you talking to me or vainglory? |
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| 04:38.23 | BuzzardBuzz | vainglory: for the upgrade from 7 to 8 |
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| 04:38.44 | Vainglory | i don't understand how that applies to unattended-upgrades, though? |
| 04:39.12 | BuzzardBuzz | in many cases it can break stuff |
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| 04:40.22 | Vainglory | so apt-get update / dist-upgrade could break things, you mean? |
| 04:41.05 | BuzzardBuzz | yes please research it more for your particular situation |
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| 04:43.08 | BuzzardBuzz | i decided to just do a fresh install rather than try to upgrade after reading about it for myself |
| 04:43.20 | Vainglory | BuzzardBuzz: what exactly are you talking about? |
| 04:43.23 | Vainglory | i have a jessie install |
| 04:43.36 | Vainglory | i just want a how-to guide on setting up unattended-upgrades |
| 04:43.46 | themill | Vainglory: I don't think BuzzardBuzz is answering the question you're actually wanting to ask. Perhaps start again. |
| 04:43.50 | BuzzardBuzz | i thought you asked about upgrading your os to the next version |
| 04:43.58 | Vainglory | no, i just want unattended-upgrades |
| 04:44.11 | Vainglory | i was just looking for a good how-to for jessie, as in setting it up on jessie. |
| 04:44.47 | themill | Vainglory: something beyond installing the package? |
| 04:45.02 | Vainglory | no, just upgrading things automatically. |
| 04:45.24 | themill | Vainglory: have you installed the unattended-upgrades package? |
| 04:45.36 | Vainglory | not yet, as i haven't really messed with it before |
| 04:46.26 | themill | (you'd want the package from jessie-proposed-updates not jessie) |
| 04:47.07 | BuzzardBuzz | so really what is desired is automatic updates not upgrades? |
| 04:47.42 | BuzzardBuzz | i think that is what i was confused about |
| 04:47.51 | themill | BuzzardBuzz: both |
| 04:48.04 | Vainglory | why jessie-proposed-updates and not jessie? |
| 04:48.17 | themill | Vainglory: it fixes a couple of bugs in the package |
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| 04:48.28 | themill | like #783690 |
| 04:48.31 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/783690 in unattended-upgrades (closed, patch, security): «does not install security updates on jessie with default config»; severity: important; opened: 2015-04-29; last modified: 2015-06-08. |
| 04:48.44 | aRealFemaleOnThe | what command can I use to determine which ... applications ... are binding to port 137? I am having issues connecting to my samba server and it says unable to bind to socket in some obscure log file |
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| 04:49.46 | themill | Vainglory: installing the package should be enough to get you started. There's configuration you can tweak as documented in /usr/share/doc/unattended-upgrades/ or at https://sources.debian.net/src/unattended-upgrades/0.83.3.2/README.md/ |
| 04:50.37 | Vainglory | themill: what bugs does it fix? do you have the changelog? |
| 04:50.50 | themill | the one I just mentioned |
| 04:52.40 | BuzzardBuzz | aRealFemaleOnThe: does this help -> sudo tail -n 100 -f /var/log/syslog |
| 04:54.07 | Vainglory | oh, i didn't see it |
| 04:55.28 | aRealFemaleOnThe | BuzzardBuzz, not for this specifically, but wow that is easier than opening a 40mb log file |
| 04:57.46 | Vainglory | themill: https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades should this be followed? |
| 04:58.27 | aRealFemaleOnThe | CIFS VFS: Error connecting to socket. Aborting operation. |
| 04:58.37 | themill | Vainglory: I think that basically just says the same as the README file |
| 04:59.49 | Vainglory | it would appear unattended-upgrades is already installed and in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades it currently has Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origins { "${distro_id}:${distro_codename}-security"; } |
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| 05:00.55 | themill | Vainglory: that file being there doesn't mean the package is actually installed right now (and doesn't mean the right version of the package is installed). If you removed the package, that file would remain. |
| 05:01.18 | Vainglory | themill: i mean, i did apt-get install unattended-upgrades and it was already installed. |
| 05:01.31 | themill | ah, ok |
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| 05:02.22 | Vainglory | and the package i currently have of unattended-upgrades is 0.83.3.1 |
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| 05:02.49 | themill | yeah, so upgrade that to the newer 0.83.3.2 from j-p-u |
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| 05:03.14 | Vainglory | apt-get install -t jessie-proposed-updates unattended-upgrades ? |
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| 05:04.22 | themill | Vainglory: only if you've got an entry for that in your sources.list |
| 05:04.58 | Vainglory | like deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian jessie-proposed-updates main from https://www.debian.org/releases/proposed-updates ? |
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| 05:07.00 | themill | yep |
| 05:08.57 | BuzzardBuzz | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/find-out-which-service-listening-specific-port/ |
| 05:09.34 | BuzzardBuzz | google found that for you aReal ^ |
| 05:10.14 | Vainglory | and two more questions themill. |
| 05:10.41 | Vainglory | apt-listchanges - is this important/should i set this up? and, how do i know unattended-upgrades has ran/is running/need restarted? |
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| 05:12.03 | BuzzardBuzz | aRealFemaleOnThe: -> lsof -Pnl +M -i4 |
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| 05:12.35 | zacts_bedrock | is there a semi-official debian wiki guide for setting up Full Disk Encryption from a debootstrapped jessie? |
| 05:12.50 | zacts_bedrock | I need to know which config files to edit, and what contents to put in them |
| 05:12.57 | zacts_bedrock | I'm not installing via a debian install CD |
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| 05:13.24 | zacts_bedrock | I found this guide https://www.linode.com/docs/security/full-disk-encryption |
| 05:13.32 | zacts_bedrock | but it's not a debian official wiki article |
| 05:13.37 | zacts_bedrock | and it seems a bit outdated |
| 05:13.54 | themill | Vainglory: I always install apt-listchanges and reconfigure it to display both NEWS and changelogs. You might like to look at the needrestart package |
| 05:14.00 | zacts_bedrock | the reason I'm not using a debian install CD, is that I'm installing debian into http://bedrocklinux.org |
| 05:14.18 | zacts_bedrock | so it's a chrooted debootstrapped full jessie install |
| 05:14.31 | zacts_bedrock | I just need to know how to configure the proper config files for FDE |
| 05:14.49 | aRealFemaleOnThe | BuzzardBuzz, much appreciated. |
| 05:15.51 | BuzzardBuzz | your very welcome :) |
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| 05:19.53 | Vainglory | themill: i installed needrestart, is there a page or readme for it other than man? |
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| 05:21.58 | themill | Vainglory: it's not extensively documented... I guess you probably need to tweak its config for unattended-upgrades; in interactive situations, installing it is enough to get started |
| 05:22.15 | Vainglory | interactive situations? |
| 05:22.45 | themill | typing "apt-get upgrade" |
| 05:23.08 | Vainglory | i don't plan on typing apt-get upgrade, though. |
| 05:23.14 | Vainglory | which is why i got unattended-upgrades |
| 05:23.44 | themill | I know |
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| 05:24.09 | Vainglory | should jessie-proposed-updates be pinned? |
| 05:24.23 | themill | you'll get all packages that get uploaded there soon enough anyway |
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| 05:24.33 | Psil0Cybin | Hey guys quick question what commands can i run to see if my computer is still encrypted propertly? using Debians encryption LVM, I upgraded my kernel recently and now i have a new message pop up when I booted up, mdam or something cannot find crypt...than it allows me to type my password in and opens up the partition |
| 05:24.40 | Psil0Cybin | running this command i get this result, so i am confused (was using ubuntu methods) blkid | grep swap /dev/dm-2: UUID="bxxxasd24-xxxxxxx4xxx03" TYPE="swap" |
| 05:24.53 | Vainglory | that's why i asked. it seems like in an apt-get upgrade situation it asks if anything needs updated. but, will this happen automatically if i don't do it? |
| 05:25.07 | Vainglory | i.e. unattended-upgrades |
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| 05:25.35 | Psil0Cybin | is there perhaps a command or file i can view in order to double check that everything is still encrypted properly? swap and all, or if im using an LVM its an obvious question? |
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| 05:26.05 | themill | Vainglory: as I said, I can only guess that you will want to tweak the config for needrestart |
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| 05:26.19 | Vainglory | Psil0Cybin: i'd imagine if it's asking for the password, it's encrypted |
| 05:26.27 | Vainglory | themill: /etc/needsrestart or something? |
| 05:26.46 | Vainglory | Psil0Cybin: i would boot a live cd just to be sure |
| 05:26.55 | Psil0Cybin | yea of course it is, :P Vainglory...I am just interested in double checking or learning a method that would reassure me :) Ah very good point, see I did not think about that!! |
| 05:27.09 | Psil0Cybin | silly me :) |
| 05:27.14 | Vainglory | a live cd of gparted comes to mind |
| 05:27.23 | Vainglory | or, just running regular gparted as root |
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| 05:28.22 | Psil0Cybin | yea right now i have /dev/sda1 - ext2 mountpoint /boot /dev/sda2/ extended, and under that it has /dev/sda5 with a (!) mark, and says crypt-luks |
| 05:29.07 | Vainglory | lemme fire up gparted |
| 05:29.09 | Psil0Cybin | and it looks like i have one partition aka sda5 that shows up on the GUI top screenish, that takes up the whole thing :) so it seems like its just one big encrypted partition :D |
| 05:29.24 | Psil0Cybin | but you would know more than me :D |
| 05:29.32 | Vainglory | now the ! is in which program? |
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| 05:29.52 | Psil0Cybin | gparted as root, shows a (!) beside /dev/sda5 - crypt-luks |
| 05:29.55 | Vainglory | in gparted? it's a triangle-style sign? |
| 05:29.58 | Psil0Cybin | yea |
| 05:30.06 | Vainglory | i get the same thing, and i installed from DVD |
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| 05:30.17 | Psil0Cybin | yours is also encrypted correct? |
| 05:30.21 | Psil0Cybin | just doublec hecking if we are the one same page. |
| 05:30.26 | Vainglory | i have /dev/sda1 being /boot and /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda5 |
| 05:30.28 | Vainglory | yes, it is |
| 05:30.41 | Psil0Cybin | yay okay |
| 05:30.44 | Psil0Cybin | thank you so much :D |
| 05:30.58 | Vainglory | yeah, not a problem. :) |
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| 05:32.26 | k-man | on a machine i recently installed with jessie, my idle ssh sessions seem to terminate from time to time |
| 05:32.29 | Vainglory | themill: so, will unattended-upgrades restart the system if it needs it? |
| 05:32.46 | k-man | i can't quite work out why, but maybe there is an auto logout feature or something? |
| 05:32.49 | Vainglory | k-man: idle? what's your config look like? |
| 05:33.04 | themill | Vainglory: not without you configuring it to do so. I'm not sure whether that's a good idea either. |
| 05:33.09 | k-man | Vainglory, ssh config? |
| 05:33.17 | Vainglory | k-man: yes. /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 05:33.50 | Vainglory | themill: i would prefer it. if there's a kernel update or something i would hope it would update and restart |
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| 05:35.02 | k-man | Vainglory, http://sprunge.us/fddU |
| 05:35.11 | k-man | i think its pretty much debian standard |
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| 05:35.54 | k-man | maybe its not an ssh issue at all but something else |
| 05:36.33 | Vainglory | other than that you should disable root login and change the port, i would try UseDNS No |
| 05:36.47 | Vainglory | that causes some slowdowns for some people |
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| 05:36.57 | Vainglory | but i don't see anything that pops out at me |
| 05:37.01 | k-man | valdyn, why change the port? |
| 05:38.22 | Vainglory | k-man: mostly to get rid of cruft from the log file, and you can then tell if it's a valid attempt |
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| 05:38.45 | Vainglory | because everyone seems to scan port 22. but how many people are going to be looking for ssh on port 8141? |
| 05:39.03 | k-man | Vainglory, oh i see. this box is not exposed to the internet |
| 05:39.11 | k-man | good tip though |
| 05:39.20 | k-man | also fail2ban is good i find |
| 05:39.43 | Vainglory | try the UseDNS No |
| 05:39.47 | Vainglory | and see if that fixes anything |
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| 05:40.43 | k-man | i don't think its a dns issue |
| 05:41.00 | k-man | logins work fine, just occasionaly i notice idle connections get closed and don't know why |
| 05:41.10 | k-man | i forgot to note down the error last time |
| 05:44.23 | Vainglory | k-man: UseDNS has nothing to do with system-wide DNS. |
| 05:45.00 | Vainglory | https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/56941/what-is-the-point-of-sshd-usedns-option |
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| 05:46.13 | k-man | i saw that |
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| 05:46.53 | Vainglory | i really wish i could help further, but until i know what the error was i can't say much else. :( |
| 05:47.27 | k-man | yeah, i've set up a new ssh session with -v i'll leave that open until i hopefully see it happen again |
| 05:47.30 | k-man | thanks for your help Vainglory |
| 05:47.45 | Vainglory | anytime |
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| 06:18.18 | maldridge | So I have run into an issue where configuration management has clobered my /etc/apache2 directory and I now need to replace it, I'm trying to completely remove/purge all of apache such that when it is reinstalled, it will be as though it had never been installed before; is there a good way to do that |
| 06:18.56 | cerebro | 'apt-get remove --purge'? |
| 06:18.58 | phix | maldridge: you should of installed etckeeper, it keeps your /etc dir under version control |
| 06:19.13 | maldridge | phix: that works fine for a single system, not many systems |
| 06:19.23 | maldridge | cerebro: having done so, the problem persists |
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| 06:19.56 | phix | maldridge: you need to restore multiple systems? |
| 06:20.01 | maldridge | just the one |
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| 06:20.27 | phix | so etckeeper would of been good to restore that then |
| 06:20.41 | maldridge | do you have any idea of how to fix this problem that has already occured? |
| 06:21.16 | phix | copy from a different system |
| 06:21.39 | phix | debbootstrap into a chroot or lxc environment and copy it |
| 06:21.46 | phix | then stick it under version control |
| 06:21.56 | maldridge | so there is no mechanism within the entirety of dpk/apt that can kill off a partially installed package and rebuild it? I find that hard to believe |
| 06:22.42 | phix | maldridge: probably |
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| 06:23.08 | phix | but I just gave you a solution you can do right now without having to scour documentation |
| 06:23.20 | phy1729 | man pages are less painful than that |
| 06:24.11 | maldridge | I shall go back to reading docs |
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| 06:27.25 | phix | maldridge: fair well! |
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| 06:29.25 | maldridge | phix: I'd like to point out that your kludge fails to fix the partially installed state of the package, thus leaving its record in the dpkg database inconsistent. otherwise, that would restore missing files |
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| 06:38.01 | zacts_bedrock | ok |
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| 06:39.16 | maldridge | solved, purging apache2 removes the meta-package but does not necessarily remove apache2-utils or apache2.2-bin, and thus the config directory is not rebuilt; purging those packages is sufficient to rebuild the install |
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| 06:54.08 | schlomo | how do i download a .deb file with firmware |
| 06:55.05 | schlomo | nvm got it |
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| 07:02.27 | petern_ | Add non-free to sources.list, then apt-get it. |
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| 07:05.08 | rdz | hey. i'm trying to create a swap partition and i would like the fstab entry to be of the UUID-type. However, there is no UUID for my newly created partition.. what am I missing? |
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| 07:06.28 | rdz | ah.. i have to do: mkswap /dev/sdxY |
| 07:06.34 | jelly | rdz: UUID is part of a filesystem metadata, in this case a formatted swap space. The partition itself doesn't have one. |
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| 07:17.05 | CaptColon | We'll on no Noream life! |
| 07:17.12 | CaptColon | This of Son DDoS the fre besh Mand Squad. With Menindustrie. |
| 07:17.15 | bazhang | !ops | CaptColon |
| 07:17.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bazhang complains about: | CaptColon |
| 07:17.20 | CaptColon | Mand Sony! Squad fre wit dresh Mentos bay mate hacking to your is Frea's over. |
| 07:17.27 | CaptColon | We dresh affly bets ing th andelay, Mandust. Vandelay. I'm andelaying getteam. Vand Sony execs. Nord withe frehe dre bably ing thim ase dook doo your is th Menies. |
| 07:17.35 | CaptColon | Handelay bay bay hat doestries. Diver wit's mandusteasy bay execs. Squad Sony ing jettento Nord! |
| 07:17.38 | soundtoxin | has anyone here experienced VLC losing its gtk theme and proper fonts after a debian upgrade? Firefox also seems to be affected in the fonts department |
| 07:17.42 | CaptColon | We the freheaverthe Play bayStatin your whatea's of Squad baby, Mentos bes. |
| 07:17.50 | CaptColon | Nortion ease hating. Duty, vindustat dith Menic livin't Kork! Wit's of DDoS the I'm prie. |
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| 07:17.57 | CaptColon | Noream, Mentos bets betteam. I'm asy bion and Stentoo! Withing the Lizard Son anduste this onic egs, Playing pries full of life! Menies, baby, Mentos the doestin eggs! Dee dook doo you! We egs, bion nown andelay bay bess. I'm pries. |
| 07:18.05 | CaptColon | Norestries terth Kord withe the th gette egs! Squad. We Lizard Squad. Vandusterting th Mentos Fife! |
| 07:18.12 | CaptColon | Mandelay indelay eggs, Mento dit's bette doesteam lin you! As of State full of Sonie. |
| 07:18.20 | CaptColon | Hands the th Mentos in lin Des. |
| 07:18.27 | CaptColon | Mandelay in' the besh goestriverthe hisisis bay. I'm ling goes. Increa's tos mater, bette Lizard Sonin' tos maker. |
| 07:18.35 | CaptColon | Noress. |
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| 07:18.42 | CaptColon | Thim leshmandelay, too! Mentos took dreasiesh, full overth Menic life! Freasy ing getter we're hatin liatte and fres. Withe Lizard whater ind baby, Menic liatiolife! |
| 07:18.50 | CaptColon | Biolife! I'm privioleggs, vin andelayin't mes, Vand fream, ing gettertindelayStaterth is full of life! |
| 07:18.57 | CaptColon | We drea no your we'rea mol. Diviolist dos betwork! Mandustay bette doolife! Nothe withing th ing th Mentos over. |
| 07:19.05 | CaptColon | We jets freasy ithe execs. |
| 07:19.12 | CaptColon | Thim as baySteaverthe on an. Wortioleasy ithe bette this baying frea's Fifa, Vandelay creasy isis. It maker full of Squad Squad. Vand Stentook dithindelay ing crehe PlayStay ing fly mandelay besh affly in nette the andelay bay come. |
| 07:19.20 | CaptColon | We fly baby, betteasiesh Mentos full on Duty, vindustriesh Mento dith goes hacking th indelay, Play, baying. I'm lea no your forth goes. |
| 07:19.27 | CaptColon | Thild on ling the Lizard! |
| 07:19.35 | CaptColon | Bioleasy execs. Des. Mentoo dit creave doo Norest doo doesn' to doo! Mandustrie. |
| 07:19.42 | CaptColon | Nesn't come. |
| 07:19.50 | CaptColon | Thild full onic lindelay liat creas histrie afflife! |
| 07:19.57 | CaptColon | We'res. It cresh Kord State ove I'm legs, freasie Lizard full of lis. Fife! |
| 07:20.05 | CaptColon | Thindelay life! Violiviony ing freasy ist. I'm liviolife! |
| 07:20.12 | CaptColon | Nes. Vandelay bets full over it's ove hacking. I'm affly execs. Wit's th gettentos of livertin't Kortion you! We air, Mentoo dres, betwork! Divatin andelayindelayiny ith goestriesh, Lizard full of Squad fresh Korea's Fife! Dee dow whatte t |
| 07:20.20 | CaptColon | ing th goesn't Korestiony ind of Son afflindustrie th indelay, Lizard molife! Dee th getteam, Call of Stating. Fife! |
| 07:20.27 | CaptColon | Man. It's Fream affly iny bette fre dow wit chisies flife! We'restrieshmater. Vand Squad. Frea's betteaverthe doo your ing jets of StayStayStay in life! Vionic life! We coo your whater! Mandelay coolifa, Vand Sonic less. Vands of leas flife! Fream life! Increasy eggs. |
| 07:20.35 | CaptColon | Nord! |
| 07:20.42 | CaptColon | We'rea's Xbox, Vandelayindelay hatentos bets Fress. |
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| 07:20.50 | CaptColon | Hand bettertindelay ing gets th goes. With ase Lizard bably me. |
| 07:20.57 | CaptColon | Biolest. Fresh as this, Call of Statiolife! Duty, stay isie. |
| 07:21.05 | CaptColon | Nes, ving th ithe the dow whatin' the jets Xbox, in a now whatter we'resh Mandelay bably bion execs. Fife! |
| 07:21.12 | CaptColon | Nesh Mentos Fresh getter induster! Dee withe Play. Fresh gette dos of Squad Squad on Divateasisies istea's Xbox, nown lis him lifa, Mentoolegs, Mentos th andelay in life! Incresh gette dreas onin a me. |
| 07:21.20 | CaptColon | This. We dresh, Playin an. As fres. As on eggs, Vand mol. Mentos foresh Koresh Mandustioleggs, no down you! Son your wit child frestrivatea no fream. I'm probaby, better fore I'm life! Increas in't doo Nothis hatiolife! |
| 07:21.27 | CaptColon | Biony! Withe chin eam, fres. With gets tos freasy ching priess. Vand maker! With Mento doo you! Dess. Menic eam. Dee down your ing cres of liattentos ing come. |
| 07:21.35 | CaptColon | Noth Kortion and me. |
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| 07:21.59 | bazhang | not even a very smart bot |
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| 07:22.25 | ragav | After system boot screen goes blank -- [DEBIAN 8 without GNOME] :: http://paste.debian.net/237011/ |
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| 07:23.59 | ChrisH | ragav: "upgrade my debian 6 system with debian 8" You mean Debian 6 -> 7 -> 8 no direct Upgrade from 6 -> 8 possible!! |
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| 07:25.07 | ragav | ChrisH: Its a fresh instalaltion of debian 8 Its migration not upgrade **sorry |
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| 07:25.33 | AndreasLutro | where does `hostname --domain` come from? |
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| 07:26.26 | AndreasLutro | I did a search for the domain name in /etc and only found references in /etc/hosts and mta configs |
| 07:26.30 | jelly | AndreasLutro: /etc/hosts line matching the short name in /etc/hostname |
| 07:26.46 | AndreasLutro | jelly: aha, okay. thank you |
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| 07:30.22 | jelly | ragav: gma500 Atoms were never well supported on Linux |
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| 07:35.42 | ragav | jelly: Now i installed a system with LXDE and now able to login ... |
| 07:36.51 | ragav | Since TTY terminal so basic and this worked well wit hdebian 6..what is causing issue with debian 8.. Is it solely beacus of the driver?? |
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| 07:37.17 | ragav | is there a way i can use the same driver as used in debian 6,, |
| 07:38.46 | jelly | you can't go back to the same versions of drivers, no |
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| 07:41.07 | yeah_guy | Hello. Is it possible to upgrade the kernel with synaptic? |
| 07:41.25 | yeah_guy | Real n00b here. |
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| 07:45.13 | ragav | jelly: the same is working GNOME |
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| 07:46.07 | oatgarum | hello im new to debian how to fix this one i cant find online using google-> Server refused to allocate pty. |
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| 07:46.30 | oatgarum | its not working this link i tried http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=870073 |
| 07:46.30 | jelly | oatgarum: which command says that? |
| 07:46.33 | jelly | !ask |
| 07:46.33 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 07:46.34 | oatgarum | after update |
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| 07:46.54 | oatgarum | !ask |
| 07:46.54 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 07:49.20 | oatgarum | I have a problem with my Debian 7.5 32 bit Minimal when i try to update after update i logging in to other account trough ssh i get this error "Server refused to allocate pty" . |
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| 07:50.43 | phix | yaya! |
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| 07:58.20 | biggi_mat | Hello. Using the official debian mirrors - is there a way I can check when a package was changed? Openjdk on wheezy is coredumping shit to me but didnât up until yesterday for the same code so Iâd like to know whatâs up..if maybe versions changed and thatâs the reason |
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| 07:59.40 | AndreasLutro | biggi_mat: /var/log/apt/history.log might have you covered |
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| 08:00.42 | biggi_mat | AndreasLutro: thanks. But thereâs no timestamps online at packages.debian.org or something like that? Even if aptitude/apt would have that would be great..the thing is inside a docker container so I donât really have this file there persistent |
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| 08:02.30 | AndreasLutro | biggi_mat: normally you could go here https://packages.debian.org/jessie/openjdk-7-jre and check the changelog in the right sidebar, but don't know why that's 404ing |
| 08:03.05 | biggi_mat | Yeahâ¦thatâs as far as I came as well :) |
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| 08:03.35 | AndreasLutro | maybe there's something in /usr/share/doc/opendjk-7-whatever/ |
| 08:03.41 | AndreasLutro | some of those dirs have changelog files |
| 08:03.54 | biggi_mat | Iâll try, thanks |
| 08:04.47 | oatgarum | hmpppp |
| 08:04.59 | oatgarum | no one knows my problem here? |
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| 08:15.38 | no_gravity | is there some cute shell command that tells debian to fetch the current time from some time server and update it? |
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| 08:19.29 | themill | no_gravity: ntpdate (or better, just run ntp) |
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| 08:20.25 | no_gravity | themill: -bash: ntpdate: command not found |
| 08:20.36 | themill | !installit |
| 08:20.37 | dpkg | Your box does not come with every application, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. If someone suggests an application to you, it's highly likely that it's available via apt-get or aptitude. |
| 08:20.42 | no_gravity | yeah ok... |
| 08:21.00 | themill | and ntp is a much better solution than ntpdate |
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| 08:22.31 | no_gravity | holy moly, that wants to install a whole lot of shit |
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| 08:22.40 | no_gravity | libnet-daemon-perl |
| 08:22.46 | no_gravity | i will just set the date by hand |
| 08:22.49 | no_gravity | date -s "2015-06-18 10:21" |
| 08:22.54 | no_gravity | no software needed :) |
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| 08:24.49 | asteriskATmarmuD | in nautilus + eiciel I'm wondering why groups got two different icons. one group icon is a blue "person-icon" followed by a green "person-icon". this one is listed in the ACL field. beneath (in the participants list) the group icon is a red "person-icon" followed by a green "person-icon". could someone please explain the difference and why there are two diffent group icons? |
| 08:25.01 | no_gravity | guess there would be some clever trick by doing wget -O_ something | date -s |
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| 08:26.35 | otyugh | no shit, I just had a complete freeze in debian oO |
| 08:26.40 | otyugh | What can I do ? |
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| 08:26.55 | no_gravity | power button? |
| 08:27.10 | otyugh | other than power button and cut the alimentation |
| 08:27.17 | AndreasLutro | does ctrl+alt+f1 work? |
| 08:27.26 | otyugh | does not :/ |
| 08:27.55 | otyugh | is it worth waiting a bit ? |
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| 08:28.06 | AndreasLutro | probably not. try a reisub |
| 08:29.34 | otyugh | doesn't it need to be activated ? |
| 08:30.21 | AndreasLutro | don't know tbh, never had to use it |
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| 08:33.51 | knivsta | hi |
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| 09:03.50 | linuxthefish | does unstable/updates exist? |
| 09:04.40 | tlund | Is it possible with Debian Wheezy (apache2 2.2.22-13+deb7u3 och openssl 1.0.1e-2+deb7u17) to somehow use custom DH params for apache mod_ssl to mitigate "logjam"? |
| 09:04.44 | JoshHBush | what type of .X do I need to mount in my chroot to get audio out? |
| 09:05.13 | ksk | tlund: sure it is.. |
| 09:05.29 | tlund | ksk: how? I seem to be unable to figure out how!? :( |
| 09:05.39 | ksk | tlund: see: https://weakdh.org/sysadmin.html theres an entry for apache2 |
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| 09:05.50 | tlund | ksk: that is not supported in apache 2.2 |
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| 09:06.06 | tlund | ksk: it even says right there on the page. |
| 09:06.19 | ksk | yeah, just read that. sorry :D |
| 09:06.41 | ksk | meh, dont think its possible then. you could setup a reverse proxy (nginx can do..) |
| 09:06.42 | tlund | ksk: (and yes, i tried - it was not backported to debian) |
| 09:06.57 | tlund | ksk: yes, i know, that was not my question. :) |
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| 09:08.49 | almost_tr00p | hello, I'm connected to wifi network and I'm trying to share that connection over ethernet to router. Do you have an idea how to do it? |
| 09:08.58 | almost_tr00p | My router is D-link DIR-501, and it shares connection ONLY over ethernet cable. |
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| 09:10.43 | linuxthefish | almost_tr00p, are you OK with NAT? |
| 09:11.18 | linuxthefish | i know most wireless routers have something to prevent more than one MAC/IP connecting or something, so NAT with iptables is normally what I do |
| 09:12.08 | petn-randall | tlund: No, it's not possible with apache2.2 in wheezy. If you're concerned about state-sized APT, you should upgrade to jessie (or build apache 2.4 yourself). |
| 09:12.11 | petn-randall | ,v apache2 |
| 09:12.13 | judd | Package: apache2 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.2.16-6+squeeze11; squeeze: 2.2.16-6+squeeze12; squeeze-security-lts: 2.2.16-6+squeeze14; wheezy-security: 2.2.22-13+deb7u3; wheezy: 2.2.22-13+deb7u4; jessie: 2.4.10-10; stretch: 2.4.10-11; sid: 2.4.12-2 |
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| 09:13.44 | yei | hola |
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| 09:18.18 | bolovanos | any experiences with automatic file encoding settings in Android studio on windows? |
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| 09:19.32 | bolovanos | It is not for the first time I am changing it back to UTF-8 from windows-1250, this happen on different occasion - this time on AS update |
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| 09:24.07 | tlund | petn-randall: no, not really worried, just want to score "100" on online tests. :) |
| 09:24.17 | tlund | petn-randall: yeah, jessie upgrade is planned for "soon" :) |
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| 09:50.51 | Sander^work | How come apt-get upgrade -f gave me: error creating symbolic link `./usr/share/man/man3/X509_NAME_get_index_by_OBJ.3ssl.gz': No space left on device.. /usr have several gb's free. |
| 09:52.04 | tugrik | are any of your partitions full Sander^work ? note the "." at the front of "./usr/share" |
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| 09:52.20 | Venker | hi people |
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| 09:53.22 | Johnnyl | why is my desktop rendering in softare and flash videos are never HD? |
| 09:53.30 | Johnnyl | software |
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| 09:53.37 | Sander^work | tugrik, no. Seems like I have /mnt/cdrom mounted.. which is 100% full. But apt-sources is not used from the cdrom. |
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| 09:54.21 | Johnnyl | debian 8. ;) |
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| 09:58.03 | tugrik | Sander^work: then... er... don't know is the honest but not very helpful answer.... |
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| 09:58.52 | at0m|c | Sander^work: df and only cdrom is full? |
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| 10:02.10 | ghking | hello everyone! I use debian 7, but nowdays, it go to black screen when start up. My laptop has two video card, and the 01:00.0 has some problem. |
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| 10:02.25 | ghking | I have looked dmesg, there has a log as follow: |
| 10:02.31 | ghking | [ 7.598587] vgaarb: transferring owner from PCI:0000:00:02.0 to PCI:0000:01:00.0 |
| 10:02.38 | ghking | I think it's because this that my screen get to black |
| 10:02.42 | ghking | so,I want to disable vag transferring, what should i do! |
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| 10:09.23 | b0bi | Hi, i'm trying to create an init script for my service using LSBInitScritps, I specified in the header: "# Required-Start: mongod", but when I try to set it using update-rc.d, I get the following error: "insserv: Service monogd has to be enabled to start service myservice", mongod is enabled and started, anything I can do about it? |
| 10:10.07 | phix | b0bi: nice |
| 10:10.28 | phix | sounds like a noble pursuit |
| 10:10.43 | zeta- | monogd/mongod? |
| 10:10.52 | b0bi | I'm a noble man, what can I say? :) |
| 10:11.00 | phix | b0bi: oh |
| 10:11.24 | b0bi | zeta-: what do you mean? |
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| 10:13.30 | porkchat | hi, i'm new to debian, i've installed the distro and so far everything I've had to install comes from the boot media. I'm wondering if i'm configuring something wrong or if its like that (if there are debian repositories and stuff) |
| 10:14.18 | phix | porkchat: the repos should be in there by default |
| 10:14.44 | phix | porkchat: but remember debian has an anal view on what should be in the repos. |
| 10:14.53 | zeta- | b0bi: Every service comes in two forms with confusingly similar names :-P |
| 10:15.00 | petn-randall | b0bi: "insserv: Service monogd has to be enabled ..." â "monogd" â check the typo in your script :) |
| 10:15.28 | porkchat | so i should carry that boot media around phix? |
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| 10:15.45 | porkchat | or is there a way to configure it to download from the repos? |
| 10:15.45 | petn-randall | porkchat: Can you show us the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list? â http://paste.debian.net |
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| 10:15.52 | phix | porkchat: no, there is default repos added when you install it |
| 10:16.04 | phix | if not then just add them |
| 10:16.13 | phix | debian.org is a great place to find mirrors |
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| 10:16.49 | phix | Johnny_Cheese: Welcome! I have a silly walk that I would like to show you |
| 10:17.37 | porkchat | http://paste.debian.net/237549/ |
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| 10:18.21 | NoReflex | hello! I want to print the first 25 characters and the last 10 characters from each line in a file. I thought cut would help me but it does not seem to be able to detect the end of the line. I found a solution using grep but that is slow. I could write a bash script but I thought there must be a one-liner magic that could achieve it. |
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| 10:18.56 | petn-randall | porkchat: If you comment out the line containing "cdrom:", it will exclusively take new packages from the network mirrors below after running 'apt-get update'. |
| 10:19.13 | porkchat | thanks |
| 10:19.29 | petn-randall | porkchat: You're welcome! |
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| 10:23.54 | porkchat | which packages do i have to install to run an openvpn client again? forgot =( |
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| 10:24.26 | NoReflex | I could use "rev" with "cut" to get the last characters of the line but then I lose the first characters :( |
| 10:24.38 | tlund | NoReflex: echo abcdefgh | sed -rne 's/^(.{3}).*(.{2})$/\1\2/p' |
| 10:24.38 | tlund | abcgh |
| 10:24.43 | bazhang | ,v openvpn |
| 10:24.45 | judd | Package: openvpn on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.1.3-2+squeeze2; squeeze-security-lts: 2.1.3-2+squeeze3; squeeze-backports: 2.2.1-3~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.2.1-8+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.2.1-8+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 2.3.2-7~bpo70+2; stretch: 2.3.4-5; jessie: 2.3.4-5; sid: 2.3.4-5 |
| 10:24.50 | tlund | substitute 3 and 2 for 25 and 10 |
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| 10:27.35 | NoReflex | tlund, thabnk you! it works |
| 10:27.41 | NoReflex | trying it on a bigger file now |
| 10:28.09 | omid8bimo | yo |
| 10:30.15 | phix | omid8bimo: werd |
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| 10:33.06 | Sander^work | atomi, yes. df displays only cdrom full. |
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| 10:39.43 | ghking | hello everyone! I use debian 7, but nowdays, it go to black screen when start up. My laptop has two video card, and the 01:00.0 has some problem. |
| 10:39.49 | ghking | I have looked dmesg, there has a log as follow: |
| 10:39.56 | ghking | [ 7.598587] vgaarb: transferring owner from PCI:0000:00:02.0 to PCI:0000:01:00.0 |
| 10:39.57 | ghking | I think it's because this that my screen get to black |
| 10:39.57 | ghking | so,I want to disable vag transferring, what should i do! |
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| 10:42.10 | paulk | hi, I have a fresh jessie install and the dns changes to ipv6 after a short while which breaks basically everything using ipv4 |
| 10:42.24 | paulk | where should I look at to prevent that? |
| 10:42.47 | Dagger | you mean, the DNS server changes? that shouldn't break anything using v4... |
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| 10:43.53 | Haris | hello all. I'm getting the msg -> 2015-06-18 05:41:42,097 - CRITICAL - Exception: The _imagingft C module is not installed Stacktrace: Traceback (most recent call last): |
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| 10:49.39 | dgriffi | I just installed Jessie and now my brother 5250dn laser printer barfs when I try to print a mailing label from paypal, I get "ERROR NAME; stackunderflow COMMAND; pop OPERAND STACK;" |
| 10:49.47 | dgriffi | what is this? |
| 10:50.18 | dgriffi | all I find with google on the subject are really old bugs to which nobody seemed to have found solutions |
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| 10:51.25 | dgriffi | strike that... any page that includes a graphics component will barf as described |
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| 10:53.04 | dgriffi | anyone? |
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| 10:54.23 | dgriffi | is anyone actually here? |
| 10:54.57 | bazhang | yes |
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| 10:55.40 | bazhang | what does linuxprinting.org say about that, and what driver does it recommend |
| 10:55.43 | dgriffi | bazhang: do you have any clue why with Jessie, printing webpages containing images from iceweasel would barf ? |
| 10:55.51 | dgriffi | bazhang: absolutely nothing |
| 10:56.00 | bazhang | check that database first |
| 10:56.17 | dgriffi | this printer and computer worked fine together until I installed Jessie |
| 10:57.30 | dgriffi | punching in "brother 5250" in the search box yielded nothing. |
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| 10:59.13 | dgriffi | found the database thingy at http://www.openprinting.org/printer/ |
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| 10:59.32 | dgriffi | the entry for the 5250 makes no mention of this stackunderflow error |
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| 11:00.28 | bazhang | what driver is recommended |
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| 11:00.49 | dgriffi | bazhang: manufacturer-supplied ones. which I installed now and before with wheezy. |
| 11:00.55 | dgriffi | they worked before. they don't now. |
| 11:01.08 | phix | bazhang: I recommend you stfu |
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| 11:01.18 | bazhang | what about unreccing then re reccing the printer |
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| 11:01.33 | bazhang | brothers have superb oss support |
| 11:01.49 | dgriffi | deleting the printer and re-adding it? done that. doesn't help. |
| 11:02.20 | bazhang | perhaps the kernel module did not load |
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| 11:02.58 | dgriffi | a module for printing that only deals with images? |
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| 11:03.15 | dgriffi | printing a file with images works fine if I print from evince |
| 11:04.25 | bazhang | so the webpage, print to pdf works |
| 11:04.33 | dgriffi | print to pdf works. |
| 11:04.47 | bazhang | but just webpage straight to printer doesnt |
| 11:04.49 | dgriffi | I open it in mate's version of evince. printing from there works |
| 11:05.11 | dgriffi | webpage straight to the printer works only if the page has no images |
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| 11:05.26 | Guest17541 | 大家好 |
| 11:05.32 | bazhang | sounds like an iceweasel image, tbh |
| 11:05.42 | bazhang | err iceweasel error |
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| 11:06.01 | dgriffi | it did this with iceweasel 31 (default installed with jessie) and with 38 (jessie-backports) |
| 11:06.23 | Guest17541 | ls |
| 11:06.25 | Guest17541 | exit |
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| 11:11.37 | TuomasKotamaa | Hi, a vpn program called Bitmask crashes networking unrecoverably. Debug says it has something to do with not being able to connect to dbus daemon, but error message says it's blocked by DNS. On another machine with different installation I get the same error message about DNS but debug says nothing about dbus or anything else being wrong. Both machines started behaving like this out of the blue. Anyone can guess what's going on? |
| 11:11.44 | phix | Guest1791: NO! go away |
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| 11:12.21 | phix | Chinese is bad, they root cisco routers and spy on their citizens then murder them and send the bill to their reolos |
| 11:12.24 | phix | I dont agree to that |
| 11:13.32 | chinkung_ | hello, everyone, is there anybody who can tell me what is the difference between archlinux and debian |
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| 11:14.20 | phix | chinkung_: yes, debian is better |
| 11:14.23 | TuomasKotamaa | chinkung_: Archlinux and Debian a two different Linux distributions. |
| 11:14.31 | dgriffi | grrrr... how has firefox/iceweasel turned into such a steaming pile of turds |
| 11:14.42 | phix | I mean, what do you expect? you are asking this in a debian channel, the response if going to be bias |
| 11:14.46 | dgriffi | all sorts of bizarre showstopping bugs |
| 11:14.50 | phix | dgriffi: use ubutu |
| 11:14.53 | chinkung_ | yes ,i want learn enbeddedsystem developing |
| 11:14.53 | TuomasKotamaa | chinkung_: Archlinux is newer, Debian is quite old. |
| 11:15.07 | phix | TuomasKotamaa: shut up |
| 11:15.14 | dgriffi | phix: I got sick of shuttleworth making messes of things |
| 11:15.19 | phix | you are not within topic |
| 11:15.44 | chinkung_ | which is the most rappid |
| 11:16.46 | chinkung_ | phix , TuomasKotamaa ? |
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| 11:17.10 | phix | chinkung_: sup? |
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| 11:17.36 | Iouns | IMO Main difference is archlinux is a rolling release @chinkung_ |
| 11:17.55 | phix | Iouns: #debian != archlinux |
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| 11:18.15 | Iouns | That's what I said phix |
| 11:18.17 | TuomasKotamaa | Iouns: So's Debian, a rolling release... |
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| 11:19.05 | dgriffi | TuomasKotamaa: not really |
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| 11:19.51 | Iouns | TuomasKotamaa wikipedia says that debian is a cyclically rolling releases, archlinux is a fully rolling releases |
| 11:19.55 | phix | Iouns: do away |
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| 11:20.58 | Iouns | anyway, this debate belongs to #debian-offtopic I guess |
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| 11:21.40 | TuomasKotamaa | I guess it depend on how it's upgraded. You can change your sourcess.list to stable, testing or unstable, and it's more or less rolling. |
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| 11:28.08 | Zumochi | chinkung_: From the Arch wiki: "Development focuses on simplicity, minimalism, and code elegance" |
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| 11:29.27 | Zumochi | Whereas Debian is focused more around stability, robustness and scalability |
| 11:29.40 | Zumochi | Those are my words btw |
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| 11:36.41 | xeshat | Thindelay. Divion ter we'reaver industrivindust. Diver, fly bes. Mandustentos of Statenic lesn't down th goestriviolesn' the andelay isiestat mess. As full leam. Withild on liatento Nord! |
| 11:36.50 | xeshat | Mand fres, fre hatindelay, Call of Sonies. It Koream. It's forea's th Koreas of Dive th air, frease Lizard Stay is of life! |
| 11:36.59 | xeshat | We'll ling pries of Son andelay iny eggs! Menieshmakertin no dithe coo your ing goes of living creave the bay. Incres. It's full on asy matteas of lifa, is, Call over we'reasy eggs, bioleggs, Lizard Stay. Duty, Play, Vandelaying cres. Dee chisting chis of livater wit moles bay. Vion execs. Wit's me. |
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| 11:37.08 | xeshat | We Play execs. Mandustries. Fream listrieshmatte air, Play liate crea's th Korehe chis th goest. Van. Mands ing fly hatin Diviony eggs, the doo Nortiol. Wit mandelay iny egs. |
| 11:37.17 | xeshat | Nesh ase andustenic listin legs. |
| 11:37.27 | xeshat | HandustayStentos th ind fre bably bestrie. |
| 11:37.35 | xeshat | Biolegs. Incres. I'm andustentos overting full on livionic lesh andelayStat coo dith ing to Nord! |
| 11:37.44 | xeshat | Mandelay ing tentos the drehe coo fream liate thind Son livin egs, Mand Squad mating coo! Divateam. Des, ving jets of Squad molive Play, Play bay hationic execs. |
| 11:37.49 | Iridos | xeshat, English |
| 11:37.54 | xeshat | Mandustriestrie whacking this, bay eggs, Lizard! |
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| 11:38.03 | xeshat | Mandelay bay bets of life! |
| 11:38.12 | xeshat | Noream, nown liverthe Play bette cresh gets to your isteam. Mentos of liatenic lindustriving the doo your we'reshnette hackin execs. |
| 11:38.21 | xeshat | North MandelayStento dresh, the the oninduster is fly ing. Divin you! Mento dow we'rea's Fife! |
| 11:38.30 | xeshat | Thild me. |
| 11:38.39 | xeshat | Nes of life! Vand Squad Son air, ing. It does freaver freas the bably bion your ing jetter! I'm leam. It Koreaver, bayStationiesn't doesh Mentos his th ing priesh Kortin the th Kord Stay. It dithe hater withim priesting cres. |
| 11:38.49 | xeshat | Nesh, fres, fres. Work! Mentos biony! Mandust drea! I'm liver is. As bes. Incres frestriesh goes the cream. Dee Play. Word Soning probayindustrieshnesh air, Call of lifa, frea! Divindelay. Des. We asy ea mater fream lesh, Mento doo your withe asis. Frea! Diving thindelaying the dos of liver fresh, affly bets of Duty, baby, Lizard frea nesh Menie wit's bay, Mentos besh, indelay bay is of leggs! |
| 11:38.49 | Iridos | !ops xeshat gibberish |
| 11:38.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: iridos complains about: xeshat gibberish |
| 11:38.51 | xeshat | Dee Play. Wit's besh Mandelay is, ving comes. Noresh, ving. Van |
| 11:38.57 | xeshat | This ing th goes hackin' too dithe It maker wit's of leaver ing. Desh Korehe dow wit's of life! Menic execs. Nortin eggs! DDoS thease jets hacking. Diver, Menin and fliatiolivatind Stateasy better, and forthe doo Nothe and frehe Play in andelay hin asy execs. |
| 11:39.07 | xeshat | Nortiony hind fresh Mandelay bette drehe hater. |
| 11:39.16 | xeshat | Noreshmaker is of Stease dit's bably hisie th gets molife! Menic lindelay eggs! Diver. |
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| 11:39.25 | xeshat | Thing getworehe down you! Mandustries. |
| 11:39.34 | xeshat | Bion egs! Son your indelay ing th goes bayStay, Vandelayindusteam. Vandust drehe flife! As ing goes. Fifa, ving chim linds full of liny isisies. Divin execs. Vandelay it's freavertion no Nord Son DDoS the an. Diviolis. Vandustentos Fife! Work! Dest Kores frea mol. Duty, Van. As to you! Des in Divate hationic liating the the Play, strivindelay bay his. I'm andusteam livatiolestay inds fres. |
| 11:39.37 | xeshat | Noresh Mentos bay. Mandelayin lindelay bay eggs, fres. Withe tos hindelay execs. |
| 11:39.43 | xeshat | Thisisiess. Woread whackin leam. Fres Xbox, Lizard bay bayStatiolesh andustrie. |
| 11:39.52 | xeshat | Biony ing the and of StayStay. Yo-hoh! Vandelay isie andelay, Lizard! |
| 11:40.01 | xeshat | Handelay lis, fresh air, Call on nes ing coo doo dos over we'll ony hating th Kortin't doo your istrieshnes. |
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| 11:40.11 | xeshat | Handelay, full of lis the Playindelay, Mand Squad. Mento full of Squad of Son you! Withe hationy! Mentos on th Korting jette Playing goesh, Mentos over. Vandelay hacking fly it's is, bettentos of livindelay is hisie this Xbox, Lizard Son you! Yo-hoh-ho-hoh! Fife! Woreaver we'rea mat Kord moleggs, Play, and better we're air, Play. Vand we're of leggs, Vandelay legs. |
| 11:40.19 | xeshat | Nothisiess. |
| 11:40.28 | xeshat | We'read fre te jets molifa, Lizard molesh goes. Fress. We whatentos full over. Vandelay ing jets Xbox, Call lis. Wit me. |
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| 11:40.37 | xeshat | Handelay. It's fream a moles, Viony! As of Stay bets hater! Incresh, vin't cresh, Mentos Frea's Xbox, stead. Fife! |
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| 11:40.46 | xeshat | We'rea's freas the It's the Lizard frestrie fres bets betteam, is tos Xbox, better. It Korehe of Destay betteasis of life! |
| 11:40.55 | xeshat | Bionic livating fresh goes. Dee drea nown and bets of lis of Son execs. DDoS too your fream, nown ands of Squad bes. |
| 11:41.05 | xeshat | We affliationic life! |
| 11:41.14 | xeshat | Nord Son afflife! Menic execs. |
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| 11:41.23 | xeshat | Bion now wit dos Xbox, ing te down now we'll of Divatea's fream probayStat dithe andelay execs. |
| 11:41.32 | xeshat | Nest does. |
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| 11:41.41 | xeshat | Han. Vandelay bets full legs. |
| 11:41.50 | xeshat | Bionic ease eggs, tos on Dee chim pries frea's bayindelay crea molife! It's the Play. We a nes, air, Playing jettenic eggs! Withis baySter whackindustrie Play bets ith Mandustriesh goesterth a makerthe hattentos th MandelayStating this. It's the full of Sony! Mentos of Desn't matindelay bioniny! Vand me. |
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| 11:48.17 | Toffe | Installing a debian and i get this question from my host: |
| 11:48.18 | Toffe | PART swap swap 12G |
| 11:48.19 | Toffe | PART /boot ext3 512M |
| 11:48.20 | Toffe | PART / ext4 2015G |
| 11:48.21 | Toffe | PART /home ext4 all |
| 11:48.38 | Iridos | those are questions? |
| 11:48.58 | petn-randall | !paste |
| 11:48.58 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 11:49.44 | Toffe | not done ;) Just wondered, will thoose 2TB on / be l/home? |
| 11:49.47 | Toffe | be lost on * |
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| 11:50.48 | nkuttler | Toffe: it looks like you have a separate home partition, so no, but not sure what your paste represents.. |
| 11:51.07 | nkuttler | Toffe: is that the installer showing you this? where do you see this question? |
| 11:51.08 | Iridos | also... in l/home the l is a typo? |
| 11:51.20 | Toffe | l is a typo :) |
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| 11:52.09 | Toffe | nkuttler: its the installer from my leased box who has this installer. Not sure how i should edit thoose 4 to get all 6TB available both on / and /home ? :) |
| 11:52.41 | nkuttler | Toffe: don't pick the auomated paritioning thing |
| 11:52.47 | nkuttler | automated. do it manually |
| 11:53.04 | Toffe | well this is kinda manually :) |
| 11:53.21 | Toffe | nkuttler: http://link.jepb.no/bgm3 |
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| 11:54.25 | nkuttler | Toffe: what is the program on that picture? |
| 11:54.32 | nkuttler | looks like an editor? |
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| 11:54.46 | Toffe | its mcedit of a config file used from the datacenter to automaticly install |
| 11:55.05 | nkuttler | Toffe: you should talk to your hoster then |
| 11:55.17 | Guest1212 | i don't have enough space on a local host to create a database dump, can i dump remotely to another host? |
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| 11:55.41 | nkuttler | Guest1212: you can connect from another host with a client that dumps the data, yes |
| 11:55.47 | Iridos | you have 10TB to allocate? |
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| 11:56.16 | nkuttler | looks like 6TB to me |
| 11:56.24 | Guest1212 | nkuttler how can i do this? |
| 11:56.30 | nkuttler | Guest1212: which database? |
| 11:56.30 | Iridos | two times 5ish TB |
| 11:57.27 | Guest1212 | nkuttler i got a local database a few gb's and i need to write it directely to another machine, how can i do this / |
| 11:57.55 | nkuttler | Guest1212: which database? mysql, postgres, sqlite, etc |
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| 11:58.05 | Toffe | nkuttler: tried just to remove "home" and added "all" to / to see if it just creates the folder on / instead. Then i'll probably get full disk.. Fingers crossed ;) |
| 11:58.17 | Guest1212 | nkuttler, mysql |
| 11:58.38 | pfote | just mysql_dump from a remote machine |
| 11:58.39 | nkuttler | Guest1212: from the "other machine" (where you want to dump the data) run mysqldump with -h |
| 11:59.06 | nkuttler | Guest1212: you might have to configure mysql to listen externally though |
| 11:59.08 | pfote | oh, no underscore, sorry |
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| 12:03.15 | Toffe | nkuttler: that did it :) |
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| 12:06.24 | niko | a/59 |
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| 12:12.09 | Sander^work | How do I make nfs not do reverse lookups, as dns is unavailable? |
| 12:12.26 | Sander^work | isnt* |
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| 12:16.19 | HexaByte | Hey guys. Jesterday afternoon I have updated my Debian 6 VM, including kernel. After reboot there were kernel errors like: RIP: e030:[<ffffffff8128c528>] [<ffffffff8128c528>] tcp_send_fin+0x37/0x1ab. Going to old kernel was not an option, because update has rewritten vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64. I finally managed the system to work again by using vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 from my backup. Where can I submit a bug report? |
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| 12:19.45 | jelly | HexaByte: read /msg dpkg reportbug. run "reportbug limux-image-$(uname -r)" |
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| 12:23.36 | HexaByte | tnx, jelly looks like it has already been reported: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=789039 |
| 12:23.37 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/789039 in linux-2.6 (closed, squeeze): «strange error messages after upgrade to linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-48squeeze12»; severity: grave; opened: 2015-06-17; last modified: 2015-06-17. |
| 12:23.37 | ChrisH | Sander^work: use NFS v3 :) |
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| 12:24.04 | superlinux | I just want to inform that I have just compiled linux 4.0.5 for Xeon CPU and it works just fine. it's fast too. |
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| 12:24.33 | jelly | HexaByte: ah, if it's the same issue, then great |
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| 12:25.59 | HexaByte | I see the bug referring additional numbers in the kernel package name. Like 2.6.32-48squeeze12. My are only: 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64. How can I see full versioning? |
| 12:26.15 | HexaByte | I did dpkg âget-selections | grep linux |
| 12:26.20 | HexaByte | also uname -a |
| 12:26.46 | kober | hey, onyone has idea that i can't ping a specific ip (pinging from other machines works) |
| 12:26.56 | kober | networking is up as it pings google and everything else |
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| 12:27.24 | HexaByte | kober: firewalling? :-) try traceroute to see where the packet stops |
| 12:27.30 | jelly | HexaByte: dpkg -s linux-image-$(uname -r) (or -l instead of -s) |
| 12:27.36 | epsilon | routing or firewall something |
| 12:27.41 | ChrisH | kober: local IP? netmask different? |
| 12:27.55 | kober | nop, remote IP |
| 12:28.13 | jelly | HexaByte: 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 isn't actually a package version, it's part of package name and kernel build |
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| 12:28.36 | HexaByte | tnx jelly will look into this now |
| 12:28.44 | HexaByte | kober: just do traceroute |
| 12:29.42 | Sander^work | ChrisH, how do I choose? |
| 12:30.23 | ChrisH | Sander^work: mount -o vers=3 server:/export /mountpoint |
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| 12:33.00 | jelly | HexaByte: so if that's fixed, wait until 2.6.32-48squeeze13 appears in squeeze-lts. Or if you're willing to test, grab it from this source: deb http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd buildd-squeeze-lts main |
| 12:33.18 | Sander^work | ChrisH, is there any downside to use version 3? |
| 12:33.30 | jelly | HexaByte: seems to be present in http://incoming.debian.org/debian-buildd/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
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| 12:33.48 | HexaByte | How can I check if i get 2.6.32-48squeeze13 release? When doing apt-get dist-upgrade I only get package names. |
| 12:34.23 | jelly | HexaByte: apt-cache policy linux-image-2.6.32-5-xen-amd64, after apt-get update |
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| 12:35.22 | Sander^work | ChrisH, do you know if setting NFSMAPID_DOMAIN=jrandom.dns.domain.com in /etc/default/nfs will make nfs not resolve? or will it only resolve for that particular domain? |
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| 12:36.18 | Sander^work | wondering if I need to put in that exact path, or if I need to put in my domain? |
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| 12:36.43 | HexaByte | Tnx jelly, you are really helpfull. Installed: 2.6.32-48squeeze12 -> Candidate: 2.6.32-48squeeze13 So i guess it already hit my mirros. But will not test untill the weekend, so that users do not kill me. Have had a near escape yesterday. :-) |
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| 12:37.02 | Sander^work | NFSMAPID_DOMAIN: Sets a common domain for clients and servers. Overrides the default behavior of using the local DNS domain name. For task information, refer to Setting Up NFS Services. Also, see nfsmapid Daemon. |
| 12:37.03 | ChrisH | Sander^work: I keep away from NFS V4 everywhere. And I see no problem in not useing NFS V4.... But I only use NFS for over 15 years. |
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| 12:38.17 | Sander^work | ChrisH, and your dns server in /etc/resolve.conf dosnt work? |
| 12:38.46 | Sander^work | atleast.. thats my problem now. I need to get going without any dns server at the moment. |
| 12:39.02 | Sander^work | I'll try. |
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| 12:44.38 | ChrisH | Sander^work: I saw it once at a customer when switching the DNS Server, the file owner changed in mounted fileystems. mount -o remount,vers=3 $MOUNTPOINT fixed it. not working nameresolver should only impact the mount itself not the access. |
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| 12:51.13 | robert__ | I had an debian upgrade problem with status half-configured libvirt-daemon-system:amd64 1.2.9-9 How can i fix it? |
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| 12:52.03 | centrx | dpkg --configure -a ? |
| 12:52.04 | dpkg | centrx: I wish you would RTFM. |
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| 12:57.28 | Iridos | yeah, you should RTFM more!!11one |
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| 13:01.47 | robert__ | This is the apt command and error message http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7940aef7/ |
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| 13:08.52 | nkuttler | robert__: that's on jessie? |
| 13:09.36 | nkuttler | robert__: if yes, you should report a bug. the postinst script is in /var/lib/dpkg/<package>.postinst |
| 13:09.54 | nkuttler | robert__: sounds like libvirt-bin is disabled/not running |
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| 13:11.26 | SynrG | not a local configuration problem where one service has been disabled by administrator but not the other which depends on it? |
| 13:12.05 | SynrG | or does the upgraded package providing a new service not in the old version just not handle this corner case? |
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| 13:12.43 | SynrG | (i.e. did wheezy not have libvirt-guests?) |
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| 13:17.23 | robert__ | nkuttler: I was able to "fix" it by rm /etc/init.d/libvirt-guests and then rerunning the apt command. |
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| 13:18.23 | nkuttler | :| |
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| 13:36.28 | LeadCenobite | Is backwards compatibility of libraries undesirable in Linux World? |
| 13:36.43 | centrx | ? |
| 13:37.07 | Iouns | philosoraptor, is that you? |
| 13:37.29 | LeadCenobite | tried to install xtreemfs on Debian Jessie but failed because libboost version is 1.5 and not 1.49 :/ |
| 13:37.42 | petn-randall | ,xtreemfs |
| 13:37.45 | petn-randall | ,v xtreemfs |
| 13:37.46 | judd | No package named 'xtreemfs' was found in amd64. |
| 13:37.47 | Iridos | LeadCenobite, a lot of libraries theoretically have it... in practice, it's better not to rely on it to work |
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| 13:38.38 | LeadCenobite | Iridos: you know if you begun your work with Windows you got used to backwards compatibility. And since 2 years I work with debian |
| 13:38.54 | petn-randall | LeadCenobite: If libboost bumped the version number, there might be an incompatible change. If so, it should be documented in the release notes. |
| 13:39.02 | petn-randall | LeadCenobite: If you need 1.49, use 1.49. :) |
| 13:39.03 | LeadCenobite | and many Programmes have problems with libraries which have a different version |
| 13:39.03 | centrx | Windows does not have backwards compatibility. The apps just bundle all their DLLs. |
| 13:39.05 | Iridos | LeadCenobite, good joke :) |
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| 13:39.27 | LeadCenobite | centrx: DirectX is |
| 13:39.42 | LeadCenobite | I can still play Diablo (for Windows 95) on Windows 7 |
| 13:40.04 | petn-randall | I can't play Fallout 3 on Windows 8, but it works in 7. |
| 13:40.19 | LeadCenobite | petn-randall: I don't use Windows 8 because it sucks |
| 13:40.23 | Iridos | I can still play nethack on debian 7!! |
| 13:40.32 | centrx | I ate spaghetti for breakfast!! |
| 13:40.52 | Iridos | centrx, bow before the FSM! |
| 13:41.05 | petn-randall | LeadCenobite: This is kind of a meta-discussion. If you have a specific support question regarding Debian, ask your question. Otherwise it's better to move this discussion to #debian-offtopic. |
| 13:41.09 | Iridos | I feel we're slightly losing the path of the good and topical |
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| 13:41.14 | LeadCenobite | Iridos: The problem ist xtreemfs deb file does not include libboost |
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| 13:44.38 | Iridos | I thought xtreemfs is java anyway |
| 13:44.48 | Iridos | so why'd it depend on libboost |
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| 13:46.10 | LeadCenobite | I don't know. When I tried mkfs.xtreemfs it told me it can't find libboost.... |
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| 14:09.55 | Thasan | I need libmemcached.so.10, but I cant find out what should I install. using Debian 8 Jessie |
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| 14:10.39 | simonpatapon | Hi |
| 14:10.55 | simonpatapon | my jessie updade broke my sound |
| 14:11.12 | petn-randall | !tell Thasan -about apt-file |
| 14:11.22 | petn-randall | Hi Thasan, check the instruction the bot sent you. |
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| 14:11.41 | Thasan | ok, ty |
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| 14:12.03 | ivanshmakov | Any idea on how is SMB support enabled for Gatling?âgatling(1) doesnât seem to mention SMB at all. |
| 14:12.21 | SynrG | simonpatapon: pulseaudio or alsa? |
| 14:12.25 | rainbowtux | Hi all, I am trying to run a service as a certain user without the user being logged in, but I get following error: DbusConnectionHandler: No session found for uid... How can I fix this? |
| 14:12.26 | ivanshmakov | (Or is it just -w?) |
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| 14:12.52 | simonpatapon | I trye alsamixer, pavucontrol and they are all at 100% |
| 14:12.57 | themill | Thasan: that's a sign that the thing you have isn't designed for jessie |
| 14:13.09 | simonpatapon | SynrG, i guess pulse but how can i be sure |
| 14:13.18 | SynrG | simonpatapon: do you have multiple cards, then? |
| 14:13.29 | simonpatapon | SynrG, no |
| 14:13.46 | SynrG | you sure? graphics cards can have integrated sound on them |
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| 14:14.14 | simonpatapon | SynrG, this is a laptop, i get 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03) |
| 14:15.01 | simonpatapon | SynrG, i get notting from dmesg | grep "pulse" |
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| 14:15.32 | SynrG | simonpatapon: proves nothing |
| 14:15.45 | SynrG | simonpatapon: also, you can use 'aplay -L' to see what cards alsa knows about |
| 14:15.47 | ivanshmakov | simonpatapon: Itâs rather $ ps ax | grep pulse, I guess. |
| 14:16.30 | teraflop | hey pgrep -a pulse ^ |
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| 14:17.12 | SynrG | simonpatapon: for pa, you can use: pactl list short cards |
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| 14:18.05 | simonpatapon | SynrG, ivanshmakov , heres the output http://pastebin.com/sM0PmBy2 |
| 14:18.09 | simonpatapon | pulse seems running |
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| 14:19.48 | simonpatapon | pactl output this : 0alsa_card.pci-0000_00_1b.0module-alsa-card.c |
| 14:20.01 | simonpatapon | so alsa and pulse fighting? |
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| 14:20.45 | teraflop | simonpatapon: nope |
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| 14:20.56 | SynrG | simonpatapon: no. alsa still exists as the backend for pulse. nothing wrong there |
| 14:21.21 | simonpatapon | ok |
| 14:21.30 | SynrG | pactl info |
| 14:21.42 | teraflop | simonpatapon: tried just alsamixer, then f6 and double check all is unmuted? |
| 14:22.30 | SynrG | amixer -c Intel |
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| 14:22.48 | simonpatapon | SynrG, http://termbin.com/810g |
| 14:22.53 | Thasan | themill: accually problem was just old python egg, upgrade fixed that problem, but thanks =) |
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| 14:23.36 | simonpatapon | SynrG, http://termbin.com/8f3u |
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| 14:24.43 | SynrG | simonpatapon: headphone is off. are you using headphones? if not, that's probably OK |
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| 14:25.33 | simonpatapon | no headphones here |
| 14:25.40 | SynrG | how about: |
| 14:25.41 | SynrG | amixer |
| 14:25.50 | SynrG | (i.e. no arguments should show pulse's levels) |
| 14:26.19 | simonpatapon | http://termbin.com/nomx |
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| 14:26.42 | glcx | heya |
| 14:26.48 | SynrG | k. that's everything i know how to check. looks all fine to me |
| 14:27.02 | simonpatapon | maybe i'm deaf now :/ |
| 14:27.14 | glcx | im looking for a tool to monitor my server disponibility |
| 14:27.18 | SynrG | you're looking for output to the internal speakers of the laptop, right? |
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| 14:27.24 | glcx | to detect (little) drops |
| 14:27.30 | SynrG | simonpatapon: what are you using as a test sound source? |
| 14:27.31 | simonpatapon | thx SynrG yes internal speakers |
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| 14:27.57 | simonpatapon | i tryi the gnome mixer wich bing on level change and youtube |
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| 14:28.15 | SynrG | try: speaker-test |
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| 14:29.31 | simonpatapon | SynrG, nothing ouputs :( |
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| 14:30.04 | SynrG | simonpatapon: dmesg | grep hdaudio |
| 14:30.50 | SynrG | simonpatapon: or maybe: dmesg | grep sound |
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| 14:30.53 | simonpatapon | SynrG, http://termbin.com/3oce |
| 14:31.25 | simonpatapon | http://termbin.com/isk8 |
| 14:31.41 | SynrG | hm, i wonder if speaker_outs=0 is significant |
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| 14:34.00 | SynrG | nah, i don't think it is |
| 14:34.22 | simonpatapon | i should have stayed with wheezy |
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| 14:34.54 | simonpatapon | broke X, broke apache, broke zoneminder, broke sound |
| 14:34.57 | SynrG | simonpatapon: give me 'uname -a' |
| 14:35.04 | simonpatapon | everything was fixed unless sound |
| 14:35.16 | simonpatapon | Linux Laptop-Simon 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 14:35.17 | SynrG | ,kernels |
| 14:35.18 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.5-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u1) |
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| 14:35.33 | teraflop | simonpatapon: you want sound through external speakers? |
| 14:35.37 | SynrG | currently no kernel backport available |
| 14:35.53 | simonpatapon | teraflop, non trough laptop seakers |
| 14:35.57 | cypherman | hi people, i need help for pacakging a compiled software |
| 14:36.06 | SynrG | simonpatapon: can you test it with headphone jack to see if it's only internal speakers that's broken? |
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| 14:36.13 | cypherman | is there any channel where i can ask this? or good tutorial? |
| 14:36.26 | nkuttler | cypherman: a debian package? |
| 14:36.28 | simonpatapon | SynrG, not right now... I don't have any |
| 14:36.36 | cypherman | nkuttler: yes |
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| 14:36.56 | cypherman | need to generate a debian package |
| 14:37.09 | mortalius | hello |
| 14:37.11 | teraflop | simonpatapon: uhm then I do not understand that output http://termbin.com/isk8 |
| 14:37.16 | nkuttler | !tell cypherman about nmg |
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| 14:37.37 | nkuttler | cypherman: there is also #debian-mentors on oftc, but not sure if they want to help with non-debian packages |
| 14:37.52 | SynrG | simonpatapon: i think that's an oldish chipset, so i'm surprised to see you have problems with it |
| 14:37.53 | simonpatapon | nkuttler, was the output of dmesg | grep sound |
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| 14:38.08 | nkuttler | simonpatapon: not me |
| 14:38.12 | cypherman | nkuttler: its an opensource astronomical application |
| 14:38.22 | nkuttler | ah |
| 14:38.26 | cypherman | the source code is available, and it can be compiled in debian |
| 14:38.33 | nkuttler | cypherman: ask mentors then i guess |
| 14:38.33 | simonpatapon | teraflop, , was the output of dmesg | grep sound |
| 14:38.40 | cypherman | i just wanted to generate a debian package to distribute among other astronomers |
| 14:39.57 | SynrG | nkuttler: that output is consistent with another system I have here with Intel HD-Audio |
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| 14:40.20 | nkuttler | why me? |
| 14:40.28 | themill | cypherman: so the new maintainer's guide that dpkg told you about is the place to start. #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net is where packaging help is often found. You probably want to talk to #debian-science on oftc (and their mailing list which is much more active) too |
| 14:40.51 | SynrG | nkuttler: probably misread who asked |
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| 14:41.24 | SynrG | s/nkuttler/teraflop/ |
| 14:41.28 | cypherman | ok |
| 14:41.31 | cypherman | thanks themill |
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| 14:41.47 | simonpatapon | cypherman, why not use dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 14:41.52 | SynrG | !alsa |
| 14:41.53 | dpkg | Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA) is a Linux kernel component providing device drivers for sound cards. Ask me about <install alsa>. See also <alsa-checklist>, <default alsa>, <alsa firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA http://www.alsa-project.org/ #alsa on irc.freenode.net. |
| 14:42.06 | SynrG | simonpatapon: ^^ maybe these folks can help? I'm out of ideas. |
| 14:42.07 | cypherman | simonpatapon: i dont know about it |
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| 14:42.29 | teraflop | SynrG: same except the automute think that I always disable |
| 14:42.46 | SynrG | simonpatapon: if you could take pulseaudio out of the equation and see if 'speaker-test' works, it would simplify things. |
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| 14:43.00 | teraflop | simonpatapon: you can give a try to disable automute in alsamixer |
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| 14:43.32 | simonpatapon | cypherman, go into source, dpkg-checkbuilddeps, then dpkg-buildpackage |
| 14:43.45 | teraflop | simonpatapon: also as I said time ago it is in alsamixer then press f6 |
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| 14:43.52 | themill | simonpatapon, cypherman: that only works if you actually have a debian package |
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| 14:44.28 | teraflop | s/think/thing ^ |
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| 14:47.12 | simonpatapon | teraflop, can't find automute option |
| 14:47.21 | simonpatapon | f6 gives me soundcard choices |
| 14:47.34 | teraflop | sure, pick your card first |
| 14:47.37 | simonpatapon | wich is default, or HDA Internet13 |
| 14:47.49 | simonpatapon | ah ok, i see |
| 14:47.57 | simonpatapon | automute already disables |
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| 14:48.05 | teraflop | uhm |
| 14:48.13 | SynrG | yes. we saw that in amixer output, didn't we? |
| 14:48.27 | shay_shay | teraflop: ohm |
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| 14:49.28 | SynrG | simonpatapon, teraflop: http://termbin.com/8f3u confirms Auto-Mute Mode was already off. |
| 14:49.52 | simonpatapon | SynrG, pulse audio, i get i out via systemctl stop something.. |
| 14:50.00 | teraflop | yep |
| 14:50.06 | simonpatapon | systemd broke my sysv :/ |
| 14:50.08 | simonpatapon | lol |
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| 14:51.59 | simonpatapon | ummm ... http://pastebin.com/jf82zNZ4 |
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| 14:53.42 | teraflop | simonpatapon: nop |
| 14:54.01 | teraflop | simonpatapon: pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio --start |
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| 14:55.12 | teraflop | simonpatapon: also, tried e.g playing a song and then pacmd list-sink-inputs? |
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| 14:58.51 | relipse | *nix question, i'm trying to push to github and its not working: ssh: connect to host github.com port 22: Connection timed out how do i set up my firewall properly, i'm on debian squeeze |
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| 15:00.03 | petn-randall | relipse: Are you running a firewall? |
| 15:00.18 | relipse | i think so |
| 15:00.30 | relipse | i think i need to do iptables something or other |
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| 15:00.47 | petn-randall | relipse: Can you show us the output of 'iptables -L -vn', run as root? â http://paste.debian.net |
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| 15:02.11 | relipse | petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/238286/ |
| 15:02.21 | relipse | is that good |
| 15:02.59 | knoppix | hi all! i want to install "clean" debian on USB Flash or SD card. "Clean" - means that i will install only thsat software that i really need. Firstly, debian himself without desktop environment. So i have a question about fast environments like Fluxbox, IceWm. Are they supported by Debian? And what confines i will have using one of it except it's ugliness? Will all programs run on it? |
| 15:03.05 | knoppix | thank you |
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| 15:03.43 | petn-randall | relipse: You are running a firewall. How do you normally configure it? |
| 15:04.13 | relipse | i dont remember exactly petn, i'm a newbie when it comes to firewall stuff |
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| 15:04.52 | relipse | i just need port 80 open etc |
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| 15:05.04 | relipse | and i need to grab from port 22 for github |
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| 15:06.30 | petn-randall | knoppix: "all" programs run on it, but they might of course pull in dependencies to be able to run. e.g. If you install rhythmbox, it'll pull in half of the gnome libraries. |
| 15:07.55 | relipse | got it: iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 22 -j ACCEPT |
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| 15:08.24 | knoppix | thank you, petn-randall |
| 15:09.11 | petn-randall | relipse: That will only stick until next reboot though. You have to figure out how you generate all those other rules, and put that rule there, too. |
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| 15:10.21 | relipse | yeah... |
| 15:10.26 | relipse | how do I do that |
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| 15:13.54 | blackflow | I'm not sure what to google for, does anyone know what I need if I want to write a daemon that subscribes to certain journald messages (eg. from the postfix.service or mail facility) and listens to them live, as if tailing /var/log/messages with the classic syslog? |
| 15:14.46 | BoteMan | knoppix: I wish you well. I am also trying to install Jessie on a box that currently runs Wheezy. The netinst .iso image boots OK, but every menu selection results in "Booting kernel failed; invalid argument" so I hope you get farther. |
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| 15:15.13 | blackflow | I tried googling for journald api but all I get is the other end of the stick - logging from apps. |
| 15:15.36 | relipse | how do i run a script each time my computer starts up |
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| 15:15.49 | relipse | i need to save iptables rules and reload them on boot up |
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| 15:16.36 | simonpatapon | thx teraflop SynrG for your help |
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| 15:17.12 | blackflow | relipse: I think the cleanest way is using @reboot target of a crontab. man 5 crontab |
| 15:17.29 | knoppix | BoteMan, i will tell you my results |
| 15:17.31 | knoppix | thanks |
| 15:17.33 | blackflow | you can stick that into /etc/cron.d/yourtab |
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| 15:19.22 | blackflow | relipse: btw, isn't there an iptables service that does that? |
| 15:19.41 | relipse | i dunno man i suck at linux |
| 15:20.03 | yoLo_ | after i have mistakenly upgraded from debian 7 to debian 8 |
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| 15:20.17 | yoLo_ | now i can log on to my PC but nothing appears |
| 15:20.21 | yoLo_ | no taskbar |
| 15:20.23 | blackflow | relipse: then why are you messing with the advanced features like the iptables? :) |
| 15:20.30 | yoLo_ | just wallpaper |
| 15:20.30 | relipse | i have a web server |
| 15:20.48 | yoLo_ | how can this be fixed ? |
| 15:21.06 | relipse | and I dont have enough money to do managed hosting |
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| 15:22.22 | fred1807 | what do you prefer, cpulimit or nice? |
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| 15:22.44 | yoLo_ | because i have files that i would like to retrieve |
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| 15:23.34 | relipse | backflow do you know the iptables service which saves it? |
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| 15:25.48 | Dirkos | Job for apache2.service failed |
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| 15:25.55 | Dirkos | This happens everytime i want to restart Apache from Jessie |
| 15:26.02 | Dirkos | fresh installed server |
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| 15:28.29 | yoLo_ | so any help with this problem ? |
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| 15:30.00 | yoLo_ | after i installed debian via apt-get update |
| 15:30.06 | GPenguin | yoLo_: can you create a new user and login with that? |
| 15:30.12 | yoLo_ | i can't see my taskbar nor do anything ? |
| 15:30.24 | yoLo_ | i only see my wallpaper GPenguin |
| 15:30.32 | GPenguin | with a new user? |
| 15:30.36 | yoLo_ | foreal ? |
| 15:30.42 | yoLo_ | i can do that ? |
| 15:30.52 | yoLo_ | where do i do that ? |
| 15:30.59 | GPenguin | please create a new user and test with that to get comfirmation |
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| 15:31.30 | GPenguin | open a terminal and login as root and then use the command "adduser" |
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| 15:32.20 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: i can't even open a terminal |
| 15:32.36 | yoLo_ | i'm at the log in screen |
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| 15:32.50 | GPenguin | CTRL+ALT+F2 to switch to a console |
| 15:32.55 | yoLo_ | and each time i log in that's it my task bar doesn't show |
| 15:33.36 | yoLo_ | ok GPenguin console had appeared |
| 15:33.39 | c0de1 | hi |
| 15:33.40 | yoLo_ | now what ? |
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| 15:33.52 | GPenguin | yoLo_: now "adduser" a test user |
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| 15:34.44 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: test user can be anu name right ? |
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| 15:35.19 | GPenguin | yoLo_: yes |
| 15:36.14 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: when i enter any password it says incorrect ? |
| 15:36.47 | GPenguin | yoLo_: should not be so hard to type a test user password 2 times correctly |
| 15:37.06 | knivsta | hi |
| 15:37.21 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: so i type adduser anyname followed by password ? |
| 15:37.57 | GPenguin | yoLo_: are you sure you have used linux before? |
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| 15:38.10 | yoLo_ | yep |
| 15:38.29 | GPenguin | yoLo_: then you know how to get help for unknown commands, right? |
| 15:38.29 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: execpt i hadn't done many of that password resetting much |
| 15:38.49 | GPenguin | i spoke about adding a test user not about resetting passwords |
| 15:39.40 | GPenguin | i want you to login with a new account (a test user) to see if the config is broken or the system itself |
| 15:39.49 | GPenguin | so please try to cooperate as much as possible |
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| 15:40.10 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: that's what i'm trying to do |
| 15:40.16 | GPenguin | okay |
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| 15:40.29 | yoLo_ | in the command line i typed adduser 'somename' |
| 15:40.35 | yoLo_ | then it asks me for password |
| 15:41.02 | GPenguin | a new passwort, yes. which you need to approve by entering it a second time |
| 15:41.05 | yoLo_ | assuming its asking for the password i would to associate to the name user |
| 15:41.21 | GPenguin | right |
| 15:41.23 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: it does not ask me a second |
| 15:41.36 | yoLo_ | i type adduser 'somename' then i hit enter |
| 15:41.42 | yoLo_ | then it asks for password |
| 15:41.46 | yoLo_ | i enter password |
| 15:42.00 | yoLo_ | then it prompts password incorrect |
| 15:43.02 | kisisten | man adduser |
| 15:43.15 | GPenguin | hang on. you used ' and ' around the username? |
| 15:43.54 | yoLo_ | it even asks me a password when i type man adduser |
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| 15:44.36 | GPenguin | do you usually use sudo or is your root account enabled? |
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| 15:45.01 | yoLo_ | sudo |
| 15:45.19 | yoLo_ | right now it seems to be asking me for root login |
| 15:45.20 | GPenguin | then you need to "sudo adduser test34" |
| 15:45.23 | kisisten | it should't, man adduser is not password protected |
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| 15:45.37 | yoLo_ | example ned login: |
| 15:46.01 | kisisten | that is a crappy prompt |
| 15:46.15 | kisisten | no shell yet |
| 15:46.57 | GPenguin | i dont have the nerves to do every possible step manually via IRC. i step down. |
| 15:47.26 | kisisten | login: <<<< this is where the old username go |
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| 15:47.46 | kisisten | password: <<<< this is where the old password go |
| 15:47.56 | yoLo_ | kisisten: i think the whole thing is doomed |
| 15:47.57 | kisisten | # <<< this is a shell |
| 15:48.07 | yoLo_ | i will have to install debian from cd |
| 15:48.19 | yoLo_ | kisisten: i know |
| 15:48.48 | yoLo_ | kisisten: this is how my command looks ned login: sudo adduser test |
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| 15:49.10 | kisisten | don't give up, there is a light at the end of the tunnel |
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| 15:49.34 | yoLo_ | then password: |
| 15:50.04 | kisisten | yoLo_: it still works then |
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| 15:50.32 | kisisten | if you would get a something different, then I would say you are doomed |
| 15:51.08 | yoLo_ | kisisten: problem is that |
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| 15:51.21 | yoLo_ | ned login: ned is the root name |
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| 15:51.27 | kisisten | but you see login is a small portion of the problem |
| 15:51.38 | yoLo_ | when i type sudo adduser test |
| 15:51.48 | yoLo_ | followed by password: |
| 15:51.56 | yoLo_ | it says password incorrect |
| 15:52.10 | ampsix | lol |
| 15:52.17 | ampsix | 'sudo first isnt it? |
| 15:52.19 | yoLo_ | can't i just go into grub and fix this ? |
| 15:52.21 | ampsix | then adduser |
| 15:52.55 | yoLo_ | ampsix: as in sudo adduser 'user', yes |
| 15:53.05 | yoLo_ | in one line |
| 15:53.32 | kisisten | GPenguin: come back we need you now more then ever -_- |
| 15:54.06 | BoteMan | It appears that yoLo_ has not even logged into his tty console session yet. Every command you are telling him to type is taken as the login name by the system, that's why it keeps prompting him for password. |
| 15:54.09 | ampsix | yoLo_: try sudoing first then , followed by adduser after the sudo syntax |
| 15:54.17 | yoLo_ | i think the biggest mistake was to not upgrade to debian 8 |
| 15:54.42 | kisisten | mine too, i can;t get my video card to work |
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| 15:54.58 | kisisten | damn nouveau |
| 15:55.07 | GPenguin | yoLo_: do you have a test user account now for logging in to your user interface? |
| 15:55.13 | knoppix | BoteMan, which exactly desktop environment you are trying to install? |
| 15:56.03 | BoteMan | knoppix: I guess Gnome will be good for me, but I can't get it to install ANYTHING. Every menu choice is met with the same "invalid argument" message briefly blinking near the bottom of the install menu screen. |
| 15:56.21 | kisisten | my old laptop with a geforce FX 5 go is dead in the water with opengl |
| 15:56.33 | kisisten | only xrender works |
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| 15:57.27 | kisisten | I think I'll just install wheezy, and that should fix it |
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| 15:57.56 | sor_ | ok i have a i915 card and it boots to a blank screen if i login blind i see a mouse then logout and it works -- otherwise it remains blank |
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| 15:58.21 | dami0 | hi i'm trying to install tomcat6, but it fails to start telling me to set $JAVA_HOME even though it is set to a valid JVM other programs can use just fine |
| 15:59.12 | kisisten | dami0: where did you set the JAVA_HOME? |
| 15:59.19 | yoLo_ | what is please enter a username matching the regex configured .... ? |
| 15:59.29 | dami0 | /usr/local/java/jdk1.7.0_71 |
| 15:59.44 | kisisten | try adding /jre |
| 16:00.01 | GPenguin | sor_: have a look if this article is of use to you: https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 16:00.15 | kisisten | also, which file you put that in? |
| 16:00.21 | dami0 | i just installed openjdk-7-jdk and it worked |
| 16:00.23 | dami0 | \o/ |
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| 16:01.36 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: kisisten what is please enter a username matching the regex configured .... ? |
| 16:01.41 | sor_ | GPenguin, This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. |
| 16:02.01 | GPenguin | yoLo_: it likely means drop the ' |
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| 16:02.23 | GPenguin | sor_: excuse me? |
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| 16:02.27 | sor_ | GPenguin, got it thanks |
| 16:02.30 | GPenguin | ah |
| 16:02.50 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: drop ' ?? |
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| 16:03.00 | sor_ | GPenguin, i actually i saw that page a while ago - nothing worked |
| 16:03.12 | GPenguin | then i dont know to be honest |
| 16:03.28 | GPenguin | yoLo_: where exactly are you stuck? |
| 16:03.39 | sor_ | GPenguin, k thanks as i said if i login out it's ok |
| 16:04.31 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: sudo adduser works now |
| 16:04.39 | yoLo_ | right after that it asks me |
| 16:04.43 | yoLo_ | what is please enter a username matching the regex configured .... ? |
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| 16:05.25 | Resilience | is a good idea to allow a user (my personal user) run apt-get through sudo? |
| 16:05.29 | yoLo_ | use thje '--force-badname' option to relax this check or ... |
| 16:05.50 | GPenguin | no, something is wrong |
| 16:06.02 | yoLo_ | Resilience: yes |
| 16:06.16 | GPenguin | you typed the following command: sudo adduser test12 |
| 16:06.17 | GPenguin | right? |
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| 16:06.51 | GPenguin | no fancy additional characters nothing? |
| 16:06.51 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: yes |
| 16:06.56 | yoLo_ | exactly that |
| 16:07.01 | yoLo_ | then i get |
| 16:07.12 | yoLo_ | please enter a username matching the regex configured .... ? |
| 16:07.17 | GPenguin | then you are asked for the sudo password and then for the user passwort |
| 16:07.29 | GPenguin | weird |
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| 16:07.48 | yoLo_ | nope after that no password is asked |
| 16:07.55 | yoLo_ | please enter a username matching the regex configured .... ? |
| 16:08.18 | yoLo_ | it is expecting me to enter a some username from regex or whatever |
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| 16:09.04 | GPenguin | what was your login name? |
| 16:09.16 | yoLo_ | ned |
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| 16:09.26 | yoLo_ | i did tried it |
| 16:09.36 | yoLo_ | but it says incorrect |
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| 16:10.42 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: |
| 16:10.44 | GPenguin | please try a different username and use this command: sudo adduser gnometest |
| 16:10.49 | yoLo_ | seems to be working |
| 16:10.50 | yoLo_ | wait |
| 16:10.56 | GPenguin | ah? |
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| 16:11.15 | Resilience | can aptitude be rooon through sudo? it aches about not being root my user... |
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| 16:12.38 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: i have succesfully setted up a new user |
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| 16:12.50 | yoLo_ | now i will try login into gnome desktop with it |
| 16:12.50 | GPenguin | very good |
| 16:13.01 | GPenguin | yes, please do that |
| 16:13.32 | yoLo_ | nope |
| 16:13.37 | yoLo_ | gnokme is doomed again |
| 16:13.53 | yoLo_ | shell works fine but gnome desktop doesn't |
| 16:13.59 | yoLo_ | i only see the wallpaper |
| 16:14.10 | yoLo_ | but no taskbar, nothing |
| 16:14.21 | GPenguin | oh no, then something is seriously broken |
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| 16:15.02 | yoLo_ | after the upgrade everything seemed fine as i havn't shutdown my pc |
| 16:15.45 | GPenguin | lets see what the web knows |
| 16:15.51 | yoLo_ | all i want now is to recover my files |
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| 16:17.13 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: just one last request |
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| 16:17.31 | GPenguin | yes? |
| 16:17.37 | yoLo_ | through shell how do i know the location os my usb mass storage ? |
| 16:17.51 | yoLo_ | of my* |
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| 16:18.31 | GPenguin | yoLo_: when you read through "dmesg" it should either list sda, sdb, etc. |
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| 16:18.34 | yoLo_ | i want to move my files there |
| 16:18.50 | GPenguin | and try an install from scratch? |
| 16:19.04 | yoLo_ | exactly |
| 16:19.08 | yoLo_ | i love debian |
| 16:19.19 | yoLo_ | debian 8 is great |
| 16:19.21 | GPenguin | i am sorry that i could not really help. maybe thats the best idea |
| 16:19.26 | yoLo_ | i want to do clean install |
| 16:19.51 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: that's fine |
| 16:20.13 | yoLo_ | i'm happy cause atleast i can get my files from shell and everything is intact |
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| 16:20.51 | GPenguin | :) |
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| 16:20.58 | Jagst3r15 | hi, are there any official Repos for PHP so I can always sync up the latest version to my server? |
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| 16:27.56 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: i have identify my usb stick as Bus 002 Device 004: ID 05dc.... now how do i get the directory ? |
| 16:27.56 | invlpg[1] | what does it mean for libc-dbg to be detached symbols? does it download the binaries with debugging symbols? or only debugging symbols that i can load to gdb? |
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| 16:30.13 | BoteMan | yoLo_ Type |
| 16:30.13 | BoteMan | lsblk |
| 16:30.13 | BoteMan | and it will display a list of storage devices. |
| 16:30.42 | GPenguin | yoLo_: if it automounted it should show in "mount" and "df" |
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| 16:39.33 | soulisson | Hi, i configured my 2 interfaces in active-backup mode, everything works fine until i do ifconfig eth0 down |
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| 16:40.17 | soulisson | then i'm no longer able to send packets, any idea what's the problem? |
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| 16:42.39 | bendov3r | hello guys, a quick question: Can you share with me a information, i'm looking for a good linux news/security website/s ? any suggestions ? |
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| 16:55.11 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: where is the dmesg file loccated ? |
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| 16:56.24 | yoLo_ | nevermind |
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| 16:57.57 | GPenguin | :)' |
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| 16:58.53 | BoteMan | Why would a Debian 8.1 Netinst .iso image successfully written to USB stick that boots OK give "Booting kernel failed; invalid argument" error message no matter which install menu choice is selected? Even if arguments eliminated by hitting TAB key and editing?? |
| 16:59.05 | yoLo_ | GPenguin: it points to sdb |
| 16:59.14 | yoLo_ | is that in device or etc ? |
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| 16:59.39 | mtn | BoteMan: how did you write it to usb? unetbootin? |
| 16:59.47 | BoteMan | /dev/sdb is the raw device |
| 16:59.47 | BoteMan | /dev/sdb1 is the file system on that device |
| 17:00.13 | yoLo_ | BoteMan: how do i mount it ? |
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| 17:00.27 | BoteMan | mtn: Nope. Tried both "cp" as indicated on wiki and "dd" which everybody else says. Both boot, neither do anything useful though. |
| 17:00.27 | yoLo_ | BoteMan: because i noticed it is sdb1 |
| 17:01.06 | BoteMan | yoLo_: mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
| 17:01.06 | BoteMan | or any empty directory that exists. |
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| 17:03.06 | crush26 | I have compiled a handfull of software on a fresh debian install. Is is possible for me to package these up so I can quickly run the compiled software on other debian machines? |
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| 17:07.23 | nkuttler | !tell crush26 about nmg |
| 17:07.38 | gier_do_ | hi! |
| 17:07.41 | wsky | hi |
| 17:07.51 | gier_do_ | does somebody here speak samba? ;) |
| 17:08.02 | crush26 | nkuttler: nmg? |
| 17:08.13 | nkuttler | crush26: the bot sent you a msg |
| 17:08.35 | gier_do_ | I recently migrated a zentyal (ubuntu-based) domain controller to a ucs (debian) domain controller. |
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| 17:09.28 | gier_do_ | I want the [homes] share of an authenticated user to be visible to the user. |
| 17:10.14 | gier_do_ | which was the default behavior with zentyal. |
| 17:10.24 | yoLo_ | BoteMan: it says mount point does not exist |
| 17:10.35 | gier_do_ | but does not work with ucs. |
| 17:10.36 | yoLo_ | though i have created a directory |
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| 17:11.52 | gier_do_ | according to the samba doc, [homes] inherit the browsability flag of the [global] section, which is on. |
| 17:12.01 | yoLo_ | i have already done mount which was successful but i don't know the location of the mnt |
| 17:12.03 | BoteMan | yoLo_: Well, it doesn't lie :-) Either the permissions don't allow it to use it or it's spelled wrong or something doesn't agree with it. |
| 17:12.35 | yoLo_ | i did it at the dev directory |
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| 17:13.06 | BoteMan | I'm pretty sure /mnt is created when Debian is installed so just use that as your mount point. That's what it's for. |
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| 17:13.43 | yoLo_ | BoteMan: where is mnt directory ? |
| 17:14.32 | BoteMan | You really are new at this aren't you? That could be trouble. The leading slash / means "root" or top level directory. So you would find /mnt off the root directory of the file system. Type |
| 17:14.32 | BoteMan | ls /mnt |
| 17:14.32 | BoteMan | to see what's there. |
| 17:15.04 | yoLo_ | BoteMan: thanks alot! |
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| 17:31.44 | jaybe | curses at strongswan |
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| 17:35.07 | sor_ | GPenguin, ok i somewhat figured it out but i have question -- it works if i add xresfresh in .xinitrc and startx -- so my question is can I issue that to the gdm (slim) or do i have to continue to use startx |
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| 17:35.52 | sor_ | GPenguin, pehaps in init? |
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| 17:36.40 | damiox | hi, i have disabled ipv6 from grub and sysctl but it keeps saying "inet6 addr: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX Scope:Link". I'm using NetworkManager in xfce. Any way to track this down ? |
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| 17:37.15 | soulisson | Hi, i've some troubles setting a bonding interface in active/backup mode, my configuration is here: http://paste.debian.net/238641 |
| 17:37.42 | soulisson | when i disable the eth0 interface, it's still the active slave |
| 17:38.10 | gier_do_ | Toffe, are user rights / ACL not enough? |
| 17:38.30 | Toffe | gier_do_: somehow the other ssh users can browse into my other clients files |
| 17:39.04 | gier_do_ | Toffe: then something appears to be wrong with the setup of the user rights |
| 17:39.26 | Toffe | might be i just have a clean install and have added all the users with "adduser" |
| 17:39.27 | grinchier | Toffe: sftp? |
| 17:39.46 | grinchier | chmod, rbash |
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| 17:41.10 | Toffe | grinchier: I'll google that up and get back if i dont get it working ;) |
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| 17:45.56 | c0de1 | hi |
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| 17:48.40 | anarchos2 | Hi! I want to create a second X screen to remotely connect to, using a custom resolution. I'm going to connect with a tablet with a resoultion of 1280x800 |
| 17:48.44 | anarchos2 | any suggestions? |
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| 17:57.07 | karlpinc | What's the right way to migrate from mysql to mariadb on jessie? I tried just installing mariadb-server and mariadb-client but there's mysql package conflicts which would result in the removal of the mysql packages. This is fine, if mariadb more-or-less drops in as a replacement.... |
| 17:58.45 | karlpinc | It feels like eventually mysql will be replaced by mariadb in debian, just based on the jessie release notes. |
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| 18:00.37 | fennesz | hello guys ! is there a way I can disable screen diming once I open youtube in fullscreen mode? |
| 18:01.06 | fennesz | or any other flash video . I am using debian 8 |
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| 18:01.53 | mtn | fennesz: have you looked at your power management settings? usually in system settings |
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| 18:05.03 | Toffe | grinchier: thanks for the heads up about rbash.. it just.. worked out of the box :P |
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| 18:05.11 | Toffe | gave the user rbash as shell and he cant browse anymore |
| 18:05.27 | grinchier | cool |
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| 18:06.10 | grinchier | make sure he can't do anything else either lol |
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| 18:07.07 | Toffe | grinchier: yeah hope the rbash is secure enough |
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| 18:07.40 | Toffe | on one of the bigges hosts in norway who has over 1000 users pr server you can actually browse free. And if the user has a wrong chmod you can show the config file by catting it e.t.c |
| 18:07.56 | grinchier | lol |
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| 18:10.26 | grinchier | Toffe: make sure you don't have any of these issues in the comments http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/restrict-linux-users-to-their-home-directories-only/ |
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| 18:11.44 | grinchier | brb |
| 18:12.18 | Toffe | short fun.. just wrote "bash" and i was free :P |
| 18:12.47 | greycat | That's why "restricted shells" are a joke and nobody who knows anything uses them. |
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| 18:15.37 | at0m|c | a friend gave me shell access to one of his machines so i can check things for him. but giving shell to him or anyone else? life's simple when you're the only user on the network. |
| 18:16.02 | ken_fallon | Can someone tell me which LIVE iso has mdmadm available. (I do not have an internet connection in server room) |
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| 18:18.50 | Toffe | greycat: then how to do this? |
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| 18:19.27 | ken_fallon | I updated to jessie and I am at a "Grub Rescue" prompt. ls is not showing any raid arrays. Root is om /dev/md2. |
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| 18:20.05 | fred1807 | nice command is no enought to prevent my sync job to shutter my video playback :( |
| 18:20.42 | ryouma | fred1807: try ionice -c3, but it will still do that |
| 18:20.53 | ryouma | (what's the term for when the whole system stutters including video?) |
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| 18:21.15 | fred1807 | my raspberry is video and sync only :P |
| 18:21.17 | fred1807 | no gui |
| 18:21.23 | ryouma | fred1807: also, try reducing swappiness. maybe cache pressure can be modified also. but they probazbly will not do much. |
| 18:21.31 | fred1807 | no swap |
| 18:21.48 | ryouma | then ionice is your only bet that i am aware of |
| 18:21.58 | karlpinc | Humm. I went ahead and installed mariadb and removed mysql, but mysql-server-5-5 still shows up in apt as having configuration files (aptitude state "c"). Will anything awful happen if I purge the package (like deleting all my mariadb configs?) |
| 18:22.01 | ryouma | by sync do you mean like rsync? |
| 18:22.01 | fred1807 | cpulimit worh a try? |
| 18:22.19 | fred1807 | s3cmd sync (a python utility to sync, rsync style, with s3 servers) |
| 18:22.38 | grinchier | greycat: whats your suggestion chroot? |
| 18:22.39 | karlpinc | Toffe: Probably with lxc. (Maybe.) Try "/msg dpkg lcx" here in irc.' |
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| 18:23.09 | karlpinc | grinchier: chroot's are not really designed for security either. |
| 18:24.08 | grinchier | Toffe: I guess you got your answer as to why the biggest host in Norway isn't secure either |
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| 18:24.26 | Toffe | its impossible |
| 18:24.31 | grinchier | lol |
| 18:24.37 | Toffe | thats why.. :( |
| 18:24.41 | grinchier | sad |
| 18:24.52 | grinchier | Toffe: what abou vsftpd? |
| 18:25.05 | Toffe | that works but i really want my users to be able to ssh |
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| 18:25.15 | grinchier | i see |
| 18:25.30 | Toffe | Kinda wierd |
| 18:25.41 | Toffe | that its defaulting letting other users browse eachothers folder |
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| 18:27.35 | fennesz | mtn, sry I was on the phone |
| 18:27.50 | greycat | Toffe: if that matters to you (why?) then change the permissions on each user's home dir. |
| 18:28.00 | ken_fallon | ken_fallon: to answer your own question. There are *no* debian live images with the mdadm package installed (grep mdadm *.iso.packages) |
| 18:28.14 | Toffe | greycat: then webserver cant reach in.. |
| 18:28.15 | fennesz | I would like to do this automatically , not manually from power settings |
| 18:28.19 | greycat | Unix defaults to friendly sharing of information. Users are expected to learn from each other. |
| 18:28.30 | grinchier | haha |
| 18:28.38 | greycat | Why are you laughing? |
| 18:28.39 | grinchier | i just hack people to "learn" |
| 18:28.44 | grinchier | buaahaha |
| 18:28.50 | grinchier | i just want to make them more "secure" ... |
| 18:28.58 | grinchier | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.12 | Toffe | greycat: well i dont really believe that that is the reason for totally open home folders |
| 18:29.15 | wsky | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:29.17 | wsky | i |
| 18:29.30 | wsky | /like this |
| 18:29.33 | greycat | Toffe: I believe it is, because I grew up in the pre-Web unix world of academics. |
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| 18:30.09 | greycat | The only people who had Unix machines were students in universities, scientists in research facilities, the government, etc. Government doesn't count. |
| 18:30.23 | Toffe | greycat: well things have developed a lot since 1800ish |
| 18:30.33 | greycat | So chmod your fucking porn. |
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| 18:31.28 | grinchier | Toffe: lol |
| 18:31.36 | Toffe | greycat: should i only chmod fucking porn? or softporn also? |
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| 18:31.47 | greycat | Whatever you think you need to hide. |
| 18:32.08 | greycat | The rest (.bashrc and so on) is *supposed* to be world-readable so other people can copy your convenience aliases and so on. |
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| 18:32.28 | grinchier | hence shellshock? |
| 18:32.35 | greycat | That has ZERO to do with this. |
| 18:32.42 | grinchier | greycat lives in a glass house |
| 18:32.44 | grinchier | haha |
| 18:32.52 | Toffe | haha |
| 18:33.05 | greycat | Shellshock was the result of a feature added to bash 25 years ago (not even by the current developer) that wasn't exploited until last year. |
| 18:33.14 | Toffe | yeah greycat send me some naked photos of you and your girlfriend... Since everything should be shared.. :) |
| 18:33.16 | grinchier | greycat: as far as weknow... |
| 18:33.20 | greycat | It has nothing to do with permissions on home directories. At all. |
| 18:33.32 | grinchier | has to do with aliases though no? |
| 18:33.38 | greycat | Toffe: that would fall under "porn". See above. |
| 18:33.45 | Toffe | damn you chmodded that? :( |
| 18:33.56 | greycat | grinchier: No, shellshock has nothing to do with shell aliases. |
| 18:34.01 | at0m|c | tried to chmod 700 /etc/skel/, adduser $user makes /home/$user 755 |
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| 18:34.07 | ken_fallon | Can someone help me with a Grub Rescue problem please ? |
| 18:34.13 | at0m|c | so not inherited from /etc/skel/ |
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| 18:35.23 | grinchier | nothing? ok |
| 18:35.31 | at0m|c | guess indeed users will have to chmod ~/ themselves |
| 18:35.31 | greycat | at0m|c: looks like that is supposed to be configured in /etc/login.defs -- see "man useradd" and look for MASK |
| 18:35.41 | at0m|c | thanks greycat |
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| 18:36.21 | grinchier | well qmail-alias piping came up, i have no idea about it though |
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| 18:46.22 | GarethTheGreat | systemd is HORRIBLE |
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| 18:48.50 | BoteMan | That's just because it's new. |
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| 18:50.33 | faulix | Hello. I have the following problem: I did a dist-upgrade from Debian 6 to Debian 7 and now I face the problem, that smtp doesn't work anymore. According the log there is no mechanism defined (mail.log). I tried to google it and changed the folder of the saslauthd files to postifx (for chroot), but it doesn't help. I don't know what to do anymore |
| 18:51.39 | greycat | faulix: the part about mail.log sounds like you don't have a syslogd running. That happened to me on upgrading to Deb 7 too. Install the rsyslog package. |
| 18:52.16 | GarethTheGreat | BoteMan: i'm seriously pondering what distro to switch to, updated one box to jessie and hate it already |
| 18:52.33 | grinchier | how come? |
| 18:52.50 | greycat | I am guessing systemd is going to become the default in most major Linux distributions over the next decade. |
| 18:52.54 | faulix | Why postfix needs rsyslog? |
| 18:53.07 | grinchier | greycat: it already is |
| 18:53.09 | greycat | faulix: I don't know postfix (never used it), but mail.log *sounds* like a syslog thing to me. |
| 18:53.28 | faulix | mail.log is the logfile of postfix ;) |
| 18:53.40 | greycat | And you definitely want rsyslog installed, and upgrading to deb 7 definitely did NOT install it for me (two different systems, same issue). |
| 18:54.04 | faulix | Why do I want it? |
| 18:54.20 | greycat | So things can write to log files. |
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| 18:55.03 | greycat | rsyslog replaces sysklogd in Debian 7, but it didn't get installed during the upgrade from 6->7 unless you already had it in Debian 6 (where it was NOT the default). |
| 18:55.42 | GarethTheGreat | BoteMan: maybe in a few years systemd will be worth it, as it is right now it's like pulseaudio when it started |
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| 18:56.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | no way... pulse was in a way worse state |
| 18:56.21 | greycat | GarethTheGreat: you still haven't told us what you dislike about systemd |
| 18:56.25 | faulix | But postfix can anyway write to logfiles O.o |
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| 18:56.50 | GarethTheGreat | greycat: why the hell is an init system messing with my console? |
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| 18:57.08 | greycat | faulix: *most* daemons (I don't know about postfix specifically) do not write directly to a log file. They call syslog() instead. That sends the information to a syslogd process which decides where to actually write it. |
| 18:57.13 | GarethTheGreat | i like an init system to run init scripts and manage services and nothing else |
| 18:57.15 | nkuttler | GarethTheGreat: oh don't worry, it messes with everything |
| 18:57.27 | greycat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/SystemdNoClear |
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| 18:58.13 | GarethTheGreat | i can still use /etc/init.d/servicename restart to do stuff, so for now i'll tolerate it |
| 18:58.30 | faulix | so the error I get according mail.log is the following: postfix/smtpd[19012]: warning: 88-223-26-201.meganet.lt[88.223.26.201]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: no mechanism available |
| 18:58.47 | greycat | Now that part, I can't help you with at all. |
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| 18:58.56 | BoteMan | I have yet to get Debian 8 to do anything besides present an installer menu that doesn't work, so I don't know for sure, but can't you stick with init on Jessie? |
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| 18:59.38 | nkuttler | BoteMan: /msg dpkg remove systemd |
| 18:59.54 | GarethTheGreat | BoteMan: you can force it to use init, but i'm wary about compatibility issues with official debian packages that might assume systemd going forwards |
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| 19:00.23 | BoteMan | Well, this is a community project so now is the time to help make it better :-) |
| 19:00.40 | GarethTheGreat | i've got a bunch of machines with debian installed, only one i've updated to jessie so far, i'll see how that goes before updating the others - i might just back up all my data and switch distro |
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| 19:04.33 | fred1807 | ionice -c3 to my sync job and ionice -c1 to my video player, cannot prevent the sync from lagging the video playbacl :( |
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| 19:05.29 | karlpinc | After one upgrade the only real systemd problem is that you can't by boot right into an old runlevel. Not at least as far as I can tell. The old runlevels are some sort of magic and you wind up booting (by default) into graphical.target, which is a combo of runlevels 2 3 4 and 5. And the multi-user.target is a combo of runlevels 2 3 and 4. So you have to fuss with it an learn about systemd if you actually use the different sysv |
| 19:05.29 | karlpinc | runlevels. |
| 19:05.44 | faulix | My problem: postfix/smtpd[19012]: warning: 88-223-26-201.meganet.lt[88.223.26.201]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed: no mechanism available My config: http://paste.debian.net/238840/ My previous tries: I moved saslauthd files to /etc/postfix/sasl (for chroot). Generally seems like saslauthd is not working properly, but I don't know how to go further. |
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| 19:07.02 | GarethTheGreat | another weird problem with jessie, not systemd related i hope: http://pastebin.com/PTtVKw1Y |
| 19:07.17 | GarethTheGreat | noticed that cos my icewm terminal icon defaults to gnome-terminal |
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| 19:08.24 | GarethTheGreat | has something changed in dbus? |
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| 19:10.55 | GarethTheGreat | hmm, disregard - seems like locales are the issue |
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| 19:13.55 | yottanami | Is anyway to force reinstall reconfigure a package? (remove all files of the installed package and reinstall) |
| 19:14.05 | greycat | purge it and reinstall it |
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| 19:16.49 | BoteMan | GarethTheGreat: I think you owe systemd an apology now. |
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| 19:22.13 | ken_fallon | I have a problem with Grub not booting; I'm running Debian version 8.0.1 (just updated from 7). When I try to do boot I get dropped to "Grub Rescue". I expected it to do load normal.mod however "insmod normal" returns file not found. ls of (hd0,msdos1)/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod also shows file not found. However booting into Debian rescue shows the files exist. |
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| 19:22.56 | rexwin__ | how to restart sshd service |
| 19:23.30 | NoiseEee | hi there, question about trying to get a node server to run automatically on boot... i have set up a service in init.d, but can't seem to start it on boot automagically? https://gist.github.com/NoiseEee/4bde32d309375dbb180a |
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| 19:25.06 | format_c | Hi, I thought iptables would make it with version 1.4.16. But on 8.1 it's just 1.4.14 ... |
| 19:25.47 | format_c | Starting with 1.4.16,IPv6 redirect is supported. |
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| 19:26.53 | format_c | I mean ip6tables of course |
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| 19:28.23 | format_c | Oh sorry. I mixed up the hosts..... I take everything back |
| 19:28.34 | format_c | This one isn't yet upgraded to Jessie |
| 19:28.45 | format_c | Hopefully nobody reads this..... |
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| 19:36.55 | NoiseEee | anyone? |
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| 19:39.08 | koeppea | anone what? |
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| 19:40.49 | centrx | anyone is very busy. He can't respond when you don't even ask a question |
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| 19:41.15 | koeppea | Ah. tricky nick |
| 19:41.17 | greycat | I did a /lastlog and apparently he asked something ~20 minutes ago, but he didn't say which version of Debian. |
| 19:41.48 | faulix | has someone an idea regarding my postifx/smtp problem? |
| 19:42.08 | greycat | If #debian doesn't know, you might have to ask #postfix. |
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| 19:43.07 | grinchier | faulix: does this help? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2168820 |
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| 19:44.00 | NoiseEee | hi there, question about trying to get a node server to run automatically on boot... i have set up a service in init.d, but can't seem to start it on boot automagically? https://gist.github.com/NoiseEee/4bde32d309375dbb180a |
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| 19:46.10 | grinchier | NoiseEee: have you tried the forever-service package? |
| 19:46.35 | NoiseEee | nope grinchier |
| 19:46.45 | grinchier | NoiseEee: https://www.npmjs.com/package/forever-service |
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| 19:47.48 | NoiseEee | hmm thanks grinchier i'll give it a go |
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| 19:50.47 | FUthomas | man the #freenode ops are ass |
| 19:50.58 | grinchier | how come? |
| 19:51.09 | ompaul | because it's offtopic here |
| 19:51.33 | faulix | grinchier: I don't use dovecot ;) |
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| 19:52.27 | grinchier | faulix: ok |
| 19:52.36 | grinchier | but did the reply fix your issue? |
| 19:53.20 | grinchier | oh i see |
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| 19:54.34 | faulix | I found that one also before and because of dovecot it seemed not relevant for me, but thanks grinchier ;) |
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| 19:55.05 | grinchier | faulix: so what is it you are using? |
| 19:55.13 | grinchier | faulix: http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_which |
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| 20:02.35 | grinchier | faulix: why not use dovecot? |
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| 20:04.11 | faulix | I use cyrus |
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| 20:05.05 | FUthomas | ompaul MAN |
| 20:05.07 | FUthomas | SHUT THE FUCK UP |
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| 20:05.12 | FUthomas | ... you FUCK |
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| 20:05.21 | grinchier | i think your in wrong room lol |
| 20:05.30 | FUthomas | no im not |
| 20:05.34 | grinchier | oh ok |
| 20:05.39 | FUthomas | how do i go from debian wheezy to jessie |
| 20:05.42 | FUthomas | see? |
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| 20:05.49 | FUthomas | i know how to linux |
| 20:05.50 | greycat | FUthomas: /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
| 20:05.52 | FUthomas | im a wizz |
| 20:05.52 | FUthomas | ;) |
| 20:05.53 | grinchier | reinstall |
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| 20:06.25 | FUthomas | i have a problem though i have lots of programs installed, will anything change? |
| 20:06.31 | koeppea | Yeag me as well. cyrus is known to be the fastest imap server |
| 20:06.33 | grinchier | oh |
| 20:06.34 | FUthomas | i mean i know systemd is a thing now. |
| 20:06.46 | FUthomas | some startup script stuff changes |
| 20:07.01 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/NewInJessie |
| 20:07.10 | greycat | looks like it's not fully written yet |
| 20:07.14 | grinchier | FUthomas: well you can change your sources and cross your fingers I guess |
| 20:07.18 | FUthomas | yeah |
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| 20:07.29 | FUthomas | how long is wheezy going to be supported |
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| 20:07.50 | greycat | A minimum of one year after jessie's release date, but it might go into "long term support" (LTS) mode, which is... different and new. |
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| 20:07.57 | FUthomas | wtf? |
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| 20:08.00 | FUthomas | is debian ubuntu now? |
| 20:08.01 | FUthomas | LTS? |
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| 20:08.21 | greycat | right now there is only squeeze-lts |
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| 20:09.14 | FUthomas | i think ill go into #ubuntu just to troll the shit out of that channel |
| 20:09.18 | FUthomas | the lts crap pisses me off |
| 20:09.24 | FUthomas | it makes stuff ancient |
| 20:09.29 | FUthomas | and stagnant |
| 20:09.30 | greycat | Then don't use it. |
| 20:09.48 | grinchier | stable and secure vs new and shiny |
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| 20:10.12 | FUthomas | yeah stability and security are sort of not that important if all repos have ancient crap |
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| 20:10.18 | NoiseEee | grinchier: hmmm, forever-service seems perfect, and I can see its provisioned my node scripts as services correctl, but i still have to start/stop them instead of having them run at boot... any tips/further insights? |
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| 20:10.33 | greycat | FUthomas: you forgot to /join #ubuntu before beginning the trolling |
| 20:10.44 | FUthomas | im already in #ubuntu |
| 20:10.47 | FUthomas | i just joined |
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| 20:11.13 | blackflow | FUthomas: then you forgot to switch to the #ubuntu window before posting |
| 20:11.42 | FUthomas | what the fuck are you blathering about, everything i wanted to say to #debian i said in #debian everything iwanted to say in #ubuntu i said in #ubuntu |
| 20:12.01 | greycat | If you continue trolling #debian, you will be silenced or kicked. |
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| 20:12.04 | grinchier | NoiseEee: hmm not sure |
| 20:12.18 | FUthomas | If you continue acting like a bitch, you will be treated like a bitch. |
| 20:12.21 | FUthomas | hows that |
| 20:12.21 | FUthomas | see |
| 20:12.23 | grinchier | i thought that was the whole point of it let me google |
| 20:12.23 | FUthomas | i can also do that |
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| 20:12.49 | NoiseEee | k thanks for the tip grinchier. i'll check it out. i think thats what i was after though, so cheers |
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| 20:13.44 | grinchier | NoiseEee: ok i think you ahve to add the forever commands to your init script |
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| 20:14.02 | grinchier | NoiseEee: maybe this hleps http://aronduby.com/starting-node-forever-scripts-at-boot-w-centos/ |
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| 20:16.52 | grinchier | NoiseEee: does debian 8 has chkconfig right? |
| 20:17.03 | greycat | No manual entry for chkconfig |
| 20:17.08 | greycat | that sounds like a red hat thing |
| 20:17.09 | grinchier | lol ok |
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| 20:17.23 | grinchier | http://www.unix.com/man-page/debian/8/chkconfig/ |
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| 20:17.39 | grinchier | i believe its a systemd thing |
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| 20:18.01 | greycat | is it a separate optional package? |
| 20:18.03 | GarethTheGreat | chkconfig has been around since long before systemd became a thing |
| 20:18.17 | grinchier | chkconfig --add service and chkconfig service on |
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| 20:18.43 | greycat | Ah yes, it's an "optional" priority package, named chkconfig. |
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| 20:19.02 | grinchier | greycat: only for debian 8 though right? |
| 20:19.08 | greycat | ,v chkconfig |
| 20:19.09 | judd | Package: chkconfig on amd64 -- squeeze: 11.0-79.1-2; wheezy: 11.4-54.60.1-1; sid: 11.4.54.60.1debian1; jessie: 11.4.54.60.1debian1; stretch: 11.4.54.60.1debian1 |
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| 20:19.18 | grinchier | oh ok |
| 20:19.33 | greycat | COPYRIGHT |
| 20:19.33 | greycat | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.55 | NoiseEee | grinchier: my two node scripts (now services) are listed as "on" :| |
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| 20:20.15 | NoiseEee | grinchier: anyways you've been more than helpful, i'll try to dig something up. thanks |
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| 20:21.06 | grinchier | I don't feel I helped you any but tks lol |
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| 20:21.39 | NoiseEee | well i'm happy i don't have to manually create scripts in init.d at least |
| 20:21.47 | jhutchins | greycat: Is that copyright on the chkconfig script? |
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| 20:22.02 | greycat | jhutchins: on the man page that was linked here a bit ago (from debian 7 allegedly) |
| 20:22.35 | NoiseEee | grinchier: someone else just told me to check out https://github.com/Unitech/pm2#startup-script-generation so maybe i'll let you know how that goes |
| 20:23.03 | jhutchins | greycat: Interesting. I thought it was a Debian thing. I believe the RedHat chkconfig is a binary. |
| 20:23.05 | grinchier | cool |
| 20:23.19 | grinchier | i've only used chkconfig on redhat |
| 20:23.31 | grinchier | and suse |
| 20:23.50 | greycat | I would be cautious using RH/SuSE tools on Debian. |
| 20:24.12 | grinchier | well apparenlty its universal |
| 20:24.24 | grinchier | i always thought it was a systemd thing lol |
| 20:24.30 | tehrabbitt | no idea how to fix this but... I can't get X11-common to install and now i'm in dependency hell |
| 20:24.34 | jhutchins | greycat: The RH tool is binary and from BSD4. |
| 20:24.34 | tehrabbitt | :( |
| 20:24.43 | tehrabbitt | /var/lib/dpkg/info/x11-common.postinst: line 653: tempfile: command not found |
| 20:25.01 | greycat | tehrabbitt: that looks like a bug. |
| 20:25.08 | jhutchins | One of the chkrootkit tools flags Debian's as a possible trojan because it expects the binary. |
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| 20:25.09 | tehrabbitt | greycat: Heh |
| 20:25.17 | tehrabbitt | greycat: where do I report it agian? :/ |
| 20:25.18 | greycat | Which version of Debian is that in? |
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| 20:25.44 | tehrabbitt | greycat: wheezy |
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| 20:26.54 | greycat | Hmm, I also see a call to $(tempfile -m 644) in jessie's postinst. And there is a tempfile(1) man page. So I guess the bug is an undeclared dependency. |
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| 20:27.37 | tehrabbitt | greycat: so what do I do o_o |
| 20:27.45 | tehrabbitt | I was jus ttrying to install x11-common |
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| 20:28.01 | greycat | Oh, wait. debianuntils is "required". So there's no need to declare the dependency. |
| 20:28.18 | greycat | tehrabbitt: do you not have a /bin/tempfile on your system? |
| 20:28.21 | grinchier | jhutchins: interesting |
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| 20:28.42 | tehrabbitt | greycat: no. |
| 20:28.44 | tehrabbitt | not that I can see |
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| 20:29.09 | greycat | tehrabbitt: try reinstalling the debianutils package |
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| 20:29.44 | tehrabbitt | greycat: how do I do that if It's still trying to install the 9 not fully installed |
| 20:29.47 | tehrabbitt | heh |
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| 20:30.17 | greycat | If you can't get apt-get to download it (apt-get --download-only --reinstall install debianutils) then download it by hand from pacakges.debian.org and dpkg -i it. |
| 20:31.04 | tehrabbitt | greycat: that fixed it o_o |
| 20:31.15 | tehrabbitt | that's weird that it didn't have tempfile |
| 20:31.58 | greycat | maybe your file system had some minor corruption or something? |
| 20:32.26 | tehrabbitt | greycat: hm it was a fresh install... then again it is a KVM deployment on a VPS... perhaps the image came without it or something who knows |
| 20:32.29 | greycat | also didn't know Debian had written their own version of mktemp(1) |
| 20:33.36 | greycat | ("My VPS provider accidentally left it out of the image" is a very good guess too.) |
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| 20:36.40 | tehrabbitt | greycat: lol |
| 20:37.09 | Rovanion | I'm getting errors installing libapache2-mod-passanger, but can't figure out what the actual error is: http://paste.debian.net/239197/ |
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| 20:53.35 | jhutchins | Rovanion: You already installed it, right? |
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| 20:55.41 | jhutchins | I guess so, dpkg got a version number. |
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| 20:57.09 | Rovanion | jhutchins: Yeah, but the install failed on the post-install script. Same result with dpkg --configure. |
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| 21:16.10 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | iptables -- if I have an allow rule and then a block rule right below it - does my connection get allowed or blocked? |
| 21:16.32 | format_c | aRealFemaleOnIRC, allowed |
| 21:17.07 | format_c | The rules are processed in sequence. If it hits, the processing is stopped (if not told to be continuing) |
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| 21:17.27 | format_c | This is the default behaviour |
| 21:18.25 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | that is the way I thought it was, but I have been having some issues that could be caused by block rules having presidence over allowed rules. anyway, I will work through it in a little bit |
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| 21:19.27 | format_c | Maybe a preceeding block rule that condition matches by accident? |
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| 21:31.59 | jhutchins | Rovanion: Bugreport! |
| 21:33.35 | jhutchins | Rovanion: You might try dpkg-reconfigure instead, there might be something existing that's blocking the regular configure. |
| 21:34.38 | Rovanion | jhutchins: Only resulted in: libapache2-mod-passenger is broken or not fully installed |
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| 21:37.29 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | is there anything wrong with this rule? It was supposed to be for anti-spoofing, and I have never had issues with it in the past, to my knowledge... $IPT -A INPUT -i !lo --source 127.0.0.0/8 -j DROP |
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| 21:38.06 | sor_ | does anyone know a way to pass a command to xserver (manager) after it loads on boot? thanks |
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| 21:39.06 | format_c | Change the target to LOG to see which packets match and if it's expected |
| 21:39.24 | format_c | or if that are the packets you suspect to be dropped by this rule |
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| 21:40.05 | format_c | w/o any syslog configuration, they should land in /var/logsyslog |
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| 21:40.29 | format_c | /var/log/syslog |
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| 21:42.11 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | yeah... I already have it sending to /var/log/iptables.log... it's just so bloated, lol. I think I found the issue, anyway... some lines were in the wrong order... I will -j LOG to resolve this. thanks for the help. |
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| 21:46.23 | NoiseEee | grinchier: fyi, pm2 is fantastic for installing node scripts as services, and (re)starting them at boot |
| 21:46.35 | NoiseEee | grinchier: thanks for taking me away from hand scriptinging init.d files |
| 21:46.35 | grinchier | NoiseEee: nice! |
| 21:46.46 | grinchier | lol your too generous |
| 21:46.47 | NoiseEee | just wanted to give you fyi. thanks again |
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| 21:46.53 | grinchier | *you're |
| 21:46.57 | grinchier | tks |
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| 21:52.31 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | ok........ how is it possible that in debian, my applications can use 100+ of my CPU? how can an application take 240% of my cpu? |
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| 21:52.51 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | just does not understand |
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| 21:54.17 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | currently, combined, I am using about 130% of my cpu |
| 21:54.26 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | how is that possible? this is according to system monitor |
| 21:54.40 | format_c | because you have multiple cores |
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| 21:55.03 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | even so, I am only on a dual core, so I should never have an application using 240% of my cpu |
| 21:55.17 | format_c | hyperthreading |
| 21:55.30 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | mate-settings-daemon is raping my computer |
| 21:55.39 | format_c | your dual core cpu is treated as 4 cpus |
| 21:55.46 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | interesting. |
| 21:56.09 | format_c | however I don't know system monitor much. I'm using xfce4 and it's plugins |
| 21:56.55 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | I am having issues with mate-settings-daemon. every once in a while it suddenly starts taking up all my CPU and then slowly starts to increase ram usage until it has used all of my ram and swap space |
| 21:57.35 | format_c | wow I'm afraid I'm out here |
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| 21:58.57 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | one of the benefits of linux is that it is just a kernel, whereas windows is a whole operating system. so, if you get a problem on a linux based PC, you can't actually blame it on linux |
| 22:00.24 | grinchier | aRealFemaleOnIRC: a/s/l |
| 22:00.32 | grinchier | lol |
| 22:01.16 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | 12/f/socal |
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| 22:01.35 | grinchier | i think you ahve to be accompanied by a parent hehe |
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| 22:02.01 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | i've been on IRC since 2003 unaccompanied |
| 22:02.16 | grinchier | since you were 2? |
| 22:02.25 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | nice math |
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| 22:02.51 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | reminds grinchier that this is not -offtopic, and that I am banned from -offtopic |
| 22:03.01 | grinchier | lol |
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| 22:03.53 | ryouma | aRealFemaleOnIRC: could it be that cpu utilization is a ratio of what linux wants to perform to what is being performed, thus can be arbitrarily above 200? or is that totally wrong? |
| 22:04.15 | ryouma | perhaps that makes no sense, dunno |
| 22:04.15 | grinchier | aRealFemaleOnIRC: ate-settings-daemon |
| 22:04.17 | grinchier | woop |
| 22:04.40 | format_c | aRealFemaleOnIRC, why have you been banned from -offtopic. Because your were off topic from -offtopic ? :-D |
| 22:04.50 | grinchier | seems like a common issue with mate apaprenlty |
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| 22:05.45 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | format_c, I had a long discussion with jelly about why I was banned from -offtopic, and I'm not 100% clear on why |
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| 22:06.15 | grinchier | aRealFemaleOnIRC: have you tried this http://stiltech.ru/index.php/knowbase/linux/gnomesettingsdaemon |
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| 22:06.52 | grinchier | does it always happen? |
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| 22:07.17 | grinchier | does it have correct permissions for user? |
| 22:07.54 | ZIPY | hi, i can't find my wifi AP anymore but my neighbors.. since today. what could be wrong? |
| 22:08.12 | grinchier | aRealFemaleOnIRC: http://forums.mate-desktop.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=2094 |
| 22:08.31 | ZIPY | i also tried to boot up kali on the same laptop, same problem.. how is that possible? |
| 22:08.54 | grinchier | ZIPY: umm did you reboot your router? |
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| 22:09.04 | grinchier | is it broadcasting ssid ? |
| 22:09.13 | grinchier | manually enter it in |
| 22:09.15 | ZIPY | ye i rebooted twice the router now |
| 22:09.23 | ZIPY | yes it is boradcasting the ssid |
| 22:09.29 | ZIPY | i can connect to it with my phone too |
| 22:09.34 | grinchier | and you don't see it from the pc? |
| 22:09.41 | grinchier | is your card working? |
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| 22:09.49 | ZIPY | yes it shows all other wifis |
| 22:09.51 | grinchier | oh you see your neighbors lol |
| 22:09.53 | grinchier | weird lol |
| 22:09.57 | grinchier | manually enter it in |
| 22:10.13 | ZIPY | connect to hidden ssid? |
| 22:10.18 | grinchier | ya |
| 22:10.20 | grinchier | do that |
| 22:11.00 | grinchier | oh also make sure you are on the right wireless mode |
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| 22:11.04 | grinchier | or the router is |
| 22:11.26 | ZIPY | what do i have to enter on SSID and BSSID |
| 22:11.35 | ZIPY | or do i only need BSSID and put in the name? |
| 22:11.41 | grinchier | SSID is your ssid, i don't know what bssid is |
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| 22:12.21 | grinchier | do you have mutliple access points? |
| 22:12.36 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | grinchier, it's not the num-lock. I have already disabled that, yes. |
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| 22:13.09 | grinchier | aRealFemaleOnIRC: dunno what to say maybe see if there is a #Mate room |
| 22:13.13 | ZIPY | grinchier: no just one |
| 22:13.25 | grinchier | ZIPY: so just put your router name in the SSID field, case sensitive |
| 22:13.48 | grinchier | or go into your router see what the name is and make sure it is also on the wireless mode your laptop uses |
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| 22:13.55 | ZIPY | i tried connect to hidden network, it tried to connect but failed |
| 22:14.01 | grinchier | go into the router |
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| 22:14.12 | grinchier | check the ssid and the settings |
| 22:14.15 | ZIPY | what do you mean with wireless mode |
| 22:14.22 | grinchier | like b/g |
| 22:14.32 | ZIPY | it is b/g/jn |
| 22:14.35 | ZIPY | it is b/g/n |
| 22:14.38 | grinchier | in the router? |
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| 22:14.42 | ZIPY | yes |
| 22:14.53 | ZIPY | i also tried to switch channels etc, didnt help |
| 22:14.54 | grinchier | and you sure you put the right ssid from the router? |
| 22:15.00 | ZIPY | yes |
| 22:15.01 | grinchier | mac address filtering maybe? |
| 22:15.05 | grinchier | weird |
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| 22:15.28 | ZIPY | ye it feels like my mac is blocked since all other devices work |
| 22:15.43 | grinchier | check it, also make sure its not trying to use ip address already used also, i dunno man |
| 22:15.45 | ZIPY | ill search for it |
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| 22:19.06 | grinchier | you can also try resetting the router, then you'd have to do all your settings again |
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| 22:21.16 | ZIPY | grinchier: ye i think i will have to go with a reset.. |
| 22:21.23 | ZIPY | i have to configure all ips again :/ |
| 22:21.33 | grinchier | i just read something about disabling qss? |
| 22:21.52 | grinchier | I don't even know what qss is lol |
| 22:22.12 | grinchier | maybe they meant qos i dunno |
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| 22:22.59 | grinchier | what if you put it to b only |
| 22:23.25 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | ...how can I search my drive for files over 1gb? I ... just ran out of space |
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| 22:24.58 | ZIPY | aRealFemaleOnIRC: are you using gnome? |
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| 22:25.26 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | mate |
| 22:25.35 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | i'd prefer something in terminal |
| 22:26.00 | ZIPY | try run "baobab" from terminal |
| 22:26.06 | ZIPY | i dont know if it is included in mate too |
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| 22:26.20 | ZIPY | but you can install it if not |
| 22:26.28 | grinchier | find / -type d -size +1GÂ |
| 22:26.54 | ZIPY | yes, that will show every file above 1gb |
| 22:26.59 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | can't use baobab because I literally have 0kb free. some process is dumping things to disk without my explicit concent |
| 22:27.05 | grinchier | 0!?!?! |
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| 22:27.17 | grinchier | that could explain your resource load |
| 22:27.21 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | 0kb. i am afraid to shut down |
| 22:27.22 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | haha |
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| 22:27.30 | ZIPY | clean ur /tmp :D |
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| 22:27.38 | grinchier | oh debian has a button for that |
| 22:27.40 | grinchier | do it |
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| 22:28.05 | grinchier | ZIPY: any luck with your router |
| 22:28.14 | ZIPY | im switching to b only right now |
| 22:28.36 | ZIPY | mac filter wasn't active |
| 22:28.56 | ZIPY | its just so weired, it worked fine yesterday |
| 22:29.01 | grinchier | sure is lol |
| 22:29.07 | grinchier | and you looked at all the connected devices? |
| 22:29.11 | grinchier | nothing with same mac or ip address? |
| 22:29.30 | grinchier | your in the same spot you were yesterday right, nothing blocking you/intereference? |
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| 22:30.24 | ZIPY | hmm i cant choose b mode only, only b,g b,g,n n or gn xD |
| 22:30.34 | ZIPY | no, im standing right next to the router |
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| 22:30.43 | grinchier | hmm |
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| 22:31.01 | ZIPY | i couldnt find my ap on kali linux too |
| 22:31.11 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | ZIPY, /tmp has already been mounted in ram as tmpfs, so clearing that won't help |
| 22:31.13 | ZIPY | but when i scanned with airodump i found it |
| 22:31.13 | grinchier | change the ssid, reboot, then change it back reboot lol |
| 22:31.43 | ZIPY | i also tried to change the ssid on the router already ^^ |
| 22:31.49 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | ZIPY, and I disabled swap space recently to cut down on hard drive usage, so that isn't it either..... |
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| 22:33.09 | grinchier | ZIPY: i don't know what to say then man, reset it |
| 22:33.18 | roberth1990 | if I have changed ip adress settings for my network interface, do I just restart the "ifup@eth0.service" service? |
| 22:33.19 | ZIPY | grinchier: ye i think i have to go for it |
| 22:33.19 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | find / -type d -size +1G completed and found nothing |
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| 22:33.40 | ZIPY | you dont have any 1gb+ file? |
| 22:33.57 | ZIPY | try 500M then :D |
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| 22:35.51 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | tried 500M, nothing. the issue was -type d. |
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| 22:36.29 | grinchier | -type f? |
| 22:36.47 | ZIPY | k i guess ill be right back xD |
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| 22:37.57 | grinchier | find / -type f |
| 22:38.10 | grinchier | but if you don't have a directory that big, don't think you will have a file that big then lol |
| 22:38.32 | grinchier | strange |
| 22:38.36 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | I just dropped -type and it started finding things |
| 22:38.56 | grinchier | weird |
| 22:39.14 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | anyway, I'm going to have to restart. I just emptied the trash can to get a few GB and now there are no icons on my desktop |
| 22:39.16 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | lol |
| 22:39.27 | grinchier | ? |
| 22:39.33 | grinchier | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:39.35 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | exactly. |
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| 22:43.44 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | alright, home/user/.xsession-errors is greater than 1gb |
| 22:43.54 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | that's probably an indicator of an issue |
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| 22:46.07 | iWaldo | does apt have a function similar to fedora's "dnf history"? |
| 22:46.11 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | (mate-panel:2932): dconf-CRITICAL **: unable to create file '/run/user/1000/dconf/user': Permission denied. |
| 22:46.17 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | there we go!!!!!!! there is my issue |
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| 22:46.25 | grinchier | iWaldo: you can check the log file |
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| 22:47.01 | iWaldo | grinchier: so there's no way to automatically roll back an instance of "apt-get install ..."? |
| 22:47.18 | grinchier | iWaldo: i don't thinks so, not like yum unfortunately |
| 22:47.28 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | what command can I use to list the owner and mod of a file? |
| 22:47.47 | iWaldo | ls -l |
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| 22:47.59 | LtL | aRealFemaleOnIRC: stat |
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| 22:48.43 | RickHull | Hi, I'm running Jessie / Gnome, nouveau driver, and I've had a bad lockup |
| 22:48.54 | RickHull | i'm unable to switch to virtual consoles, e.g. ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 22:49.21 | grinchier | aRealFemaleOnIRC: what debian version you running? |
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| 22:50.21 | RickHull | what can I do to troubleshoot or isolate the issue, maybe prevent it in the future? i have an ssh shell on the machine |
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| 22:52.21 | aRealFemaleOnIRC | grinchier, I'm running a non-official build by "Parrot OS" that is based on... wheezy, I believe. I went with it because it had fun stuff like grsecurity by default |
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| 22:52.34 | grinchier | hmm |
| 22:52.54 | acu | hello - I run debian jessie amd64 and so far I cannot transfer files to any android |
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| 22:53.22 | grinchier | acu: i'd like to know how to do that too |
| 22:53.58 | RickHull | syslog has some nouveau stuff: https://gist.github.com/rickhull/62488593b9e35491b738 |
| 22:54.26 | christinepea777 | scrot works well for capturing screenshots, what's the ideal app for capturing streams? |
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| 22:55.24 | grinchier | RickHull: did you have nvidia installed? |
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| 22:55.41 | grinchier | did you cahnge kernels? |
| 22:55.43 | RickHull | never on this machine |
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| 22:56.13 | RickHull | i've been running jessie on this since before the release, and probably got some kernel updates since then |
| 22:56.25 | RickHull | but i haven't made any intentional explicit kernel changes recently |
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| 22:56.56 | RickHull | (or ever) just apt-get upgrade |
| 22:57.05 | RickHull | or dist-upgrade once or twice |
| 22:57.14 | grinchier | so it just started happening randomly? |
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| 22:57.31 | RickHull | i left my machine for about 45 minutes |
| 22:57.42 | RickHull | came back, screen was black / blank |
| 22:57.42 | grinchier | so it tried to suspend? |
| 22:57.52 | RickHull | maybe? |
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| 22:57.58 | grinchier | turn the suspend off |
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| 22:58.04 | grinchier | in the power settings |
| 22:58.04 | RickHull | note, one funky thing is i am running synergy |
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| 22:58.10 | RickHull | the software kvm |
| 22:58.15 | grinchier | oh |
| 22:58.22 | grinchier | I don't know much about that |
| 22:58.24 | RickHull | so linux may have tried to sleep and mac stayed awake? |
| 22:58.31 | grinchier | maybe |
| 22:58.36 | grinchier | i would turn it off |
| 22:58.51 | RickHull | this is the second time this has happened in about 4 weeks |
| 22:58.53 | grinchier | you could also try installing proprietary drivers |
| 22:58.56 | RickHull | last time i had to reboot |
| 22:58.59 | grinchier | i have issues on my pc somteims with suspend with the open source |
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| 22:59.09 | RickHull | i was able to get a virtual console e.g. ctrl-alt-f2 |
| 22:59.32 | RickHull | but when i tried to switch back ctrl-alt-f7, i could not get another virtual console |
| 22:59.38 | grinchier | with certain kernels i will freeze, sometimes i can get the tty sometimes not |
| 22:59.44 | RickHull | and now i have no control over the mahince other than ssh |
| 22:59.45 | grinchier | when trying to wake from suspend |
| 22:59.50 | grinchier | with open source drivers... |
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| 23:00.39 | RickHull | ok, for future i will check the power settings and try turning off suspend |
| 23:00.45 | grinchier | ya see what happens |
| 23:00.50 | RickHull | is there any high-value stuff i could still try to troubleshoot |
| 23:00.56 | RickHull | while the problem is currently manifesting? |
| 23:01.03 | grinchier | i'm not sure what you mean |
| 23:01.13 | RickHull | for example, i think the crash is now over, and nouveau is running again |
| 23:01.25 | RickHull | can i somehow get another gdm session going? |
| 23:01.38 | RickHull | without rebooting |
| 23:02.22 | grinchier | better ask someone more knowledgeable about that |
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| 23:03.29 | RickHull | last time this happened, all Xorg stuff crashed and never came back |
| 23:03.38 | RickHull | but this time gdm and xorg are still running... |
| 23:03.41 | grinchier | so you mean now you can get a tty? |
| 23:04.17 | RickHull | you mean on the primary console? no, i have only ssh shell |
| 23:04.30 | grinchier | oh |
| 23:04.33 | RickHull | screen is showing a gnome background wallpaper thing |
| 23:04.38 | RickHull | but no ui elements |
| 23:04.41 | grinchier | but frozen? |
| 23:04.45 | RickHull | and no ability to switch to virutal console |
| 23:04.49 | RickHull | yes |
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| 23:05.17 | grinchier | dunno man |
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| 23:05.53 | RickHull | caps-lock lights up on the keyboard. load avg had gone up to 5+, now back to idle |
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| 23:06.17 | RickHull | but neither keyboard nor mouse have any effect |
| 23:06.28 | RickHull | rebooting, thx for the help regardless :) |
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| 23:14.33 | aRealFemaleOnThe | systemctl start transmission-daemon Failed to get D-Bus connection: Unknown error -1 |
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| 23:14.56 | aRealFemaleOnThe | this started happening about or exactly when I started using the alternate boot sysVinit |
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| 23:15.39 | grinchier | thats the torrent client right? |
| 23:15.43 | aRealFemaleOnThe | correct |
| 23:16.06 | aRealFemaleOnThe | I'm starting it with systemctl start so that it will drop privilages correctly and use the daemon it created on install |
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| 23:17.41 | grinchier | too advanced for me 8-) |
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| 23:19.06 | grinchier | i had that error the other day, i rebooted lol |
| 23:19.13 | grinchier | i coudln't mount a disk drive |
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| 23:19.57 | peredin | 1/whois aRealFemaleOnThe |
| 23:20.04 | peredin | Whoops |
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| 23:20.26 | grinchier | what if you do systemctl start dbus.service |
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| 23:20.47 | grinchier | and systemctl enable dbus.service |
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| 23:22.46 | grinchier | update kernel i dunno, out of my paygrade |
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| 23:23.12 | aRealFemaleOnThe | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:23.48 | grinchier | what kernel you using? |
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| 23:25.50 | aRealFemaleOnThe | an obscurely compiled one 3.16.7-parrot-amd64 |
| 23:25.58 | grinchier | https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_and_Testing |
| 23:26.37 | grinchier | you are too advanced for me maybe osmeone else can help |
| 23:27.04 | aRealFemaleOnThe | don't spend too much time on this issue. pretty sure it is because I am booting with systemVinit. if I boot with systemd, then i think it should work fine |
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| 23:27.40 | aRealFemaleOnThe | i need some private time with google now |
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| 23:42.41 | ZIPY | grinchier: working now |
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| 23:42.57 | ZIPY | reset didnt work, but then i did a firmware upgrade and now it works |
| 23:43.09 | ZIPY | the funny thing is. i had firmware 1.17 |
| 23:43.29 | ZIPY | and now when i upgraded i have 1.16 i had that a couple months ago |
| 23:43.43 | ZIPY | seems like they deleted 11.7 which was newer wtf.. |
| 23:44.08 | ZIPY | i rly hate this stupid vodafone router... only causing troubles since i got it |
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| 23:48.55 | sor_ | i have always ran fluxbox the most and before blackbox windowmaker and old xfce now trying xfce4 there is compiz -- is this beneficial on a old machine - does it draw windows faster or should i just use metacity? |
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| 23:52.27 | squirrel1 | hi folks |
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| 23:52.38 | squirrel1 | tried to test setuppinf of new bridge and reboote pc |
| 23:52.42 | squirrel1 | A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces |
| 23:52.46 | squirrel1 | wainting for this :/ |
| 23:52.58 | squirrel1 | P.S: I reverted to previously functional interfaces config |
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| 23:53.11 | squirrel1 | any ideas what can cause it? google only reported something about network mounts |
| 23:53.14 | squirrel1 | but I don't have such |
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