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| 00:38.32 | blackhajime | i have problem here: Removing libparted0debian1 (2.3-5) ... |
| 00:38.33 | blackhajime | /var/lib/dpkg/info/libparted0debian1.postrm: 1: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libparted0debian1.postrm: Syntax error: "(" unexpected |
| 00:38.35 | blackhajime | dpkg: error processing package libparted0debian1 (--remove): |
| 00:38.36 | dpkg | blackhajime: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 00:38.37 | blackhajime | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.39 | blackhajime | Ada kesalahan saat memproses: |
| 00:38.41 | blackhajime | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:37.37 | Red_Onyx | hello |
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| 02:37.45 | grinchier | hi |
| 02:38.29 | Red_Onyx | I have a problem (Linux Mint) here. When Firefox or Google Chrome freeze (usually when more than three tabs are opened), all of Linux Mint Freezes, as if there wasn't enough RAM anymore |
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| 02:38.55 | grinchier | weird |
| 02:39.01 | grinchier | it happens with chrome too? |
| 02:39.18 | grinchier | you mean everything freezes permanently? |
| 02:39.22 | Red_Onyx | yes, with chrome also |
| 02:39.39 | grinchier | so you mean you have to restartx and everything? |
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| 02:39.51 | Red_Onyx | no, if I use sudo killall chrome , it may go back to normal. But from time to time, it is so frozen, I cannot even do that |
| 02:40.01 | Red_Onyx | so I have to restart the system |
| 02:40.13 | grinchier | so you do ctrl alt f1 and kill chrome? or reboot? |
| 02:40.58 | Red_Onyx | yes, I use ctrl-alt-f1 and kill chrome, and then restart it. Sometimes, however, it is so slow, I cannot even do that |
| 02:41.03 | grinchier | thats weird man I don't know what to say |
| 02:41.05 | Red_Onyx | so i have to reboot. |
| 02:41.17 | D|nA | how much ram do you have Red_Onyx ? |
| 02:41.25 | Red_Onyx | yeah, it may be a RAM problem, or a Linux Swap problem. |
| 02:41.29 | Red_Onyx | 3 GB |
| 02:41.33 | grinchier | do you see the ram go up? |
| 02:41.43 | grinchier | have you tried another DE? |
| 02:41.51 | grinchier | like xfce or something? |
| 02:42.12 | Red_Onyx | you mean like Gnome? |
| 02:42.18 | grinchier | i almost never go past 2 on cinnamon with dozens of tabs open |
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| 02:42.28 | D|nA | Red_Onyx, when you close an application can you see the ram usage decrease or it stays the same? |
| 02:42.38 | grinchier | i use htop to see it |
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| 02:43.28 | Red_Onyx | I closed Netbeans, and this IDE uses a lot of ram, and "free" says the free ram is exactly the same |
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| 02:43.44 | Red_Onyx | now it went up |
| 02:43.49 | D|nA | so it doesn't go down? |
| 02:44.08 | Red_Onyx | it seems Netbeans is consuming 700,000 KB of RAM |
| 02:44.40 | grinchier | and when you close it how much? |
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| 02:45.12 | Red_Onyx | 895028 <---now that Netbeans is closed. This is the free RAM I have |
| 02:45.30 | Red_Onyx | 71556 <---- this is the free RAM I had when Netbeans was functioning |
| 02:45.38 | grinchier | what? |
| 02:45.55 | Red_Onyx | so Netbeans may be causing the problem now that I think of it |
| 02:46.23 | grinchier | you can go for lighter DE like xfce, or even lighter with lxde |
| 02:46.27 | D|nA | Red_Onyx, not even 10minutes ago (in mint's irc server) someone was having the same problem really |
| 02:46.55 | grinchier | weird |
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| 02:47.27 | D|nA | his idle >~200mb >running programs ~400-500MB > after closing his programs > 400-500MB |
| 02:47.44 | Red_Onyx | D|nA, if that's the case, then perhaps changing distros may be a good idea. |
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| 02:48.18 | grinchier | differnt problem for you though red |
| 02:48.36 | D|nA | not sure, i have mint on another computer, it manages my ram just like debian 8.1 which i run here |
| 02:49.45 | grinchier | if you only have 3gb, and just netbeans alone when opened takes almost a gb. then ya your going to go oom |
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| 02:50.42 | grinchier | i'm using 1.5gb of ram right now, with two terminals, 4 tabs, and pidgin open |
| 02:51.26 | Red_Onyx | Netbeans and Firefox are RAM killers |
| 02:51.39 | grinchier | ya for sure |
| 02:52.42 | D|nA | chrome 2 tabs, pidgin, gimp, xchat, 1 term 600mb |
| 02:53.13 | grinchier | nice |
| 02:53.29 | Mikko- | 20 tabs on firefox 500mb, what add-ons are you using? |
| 02:53.42 | grinchier | just the basic ones, adblock noscript ghostery |
| 02:53.50 | grinchier | let me close ff and see how much i get |
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| 02:54.07 | grinchier | ok i got about 500 mb back |
| 02:54.12 | grinchier | now i'm using a gb |
| 02:54.13 | Mikko- | switch to ublock origin, way more efficient than adblock |
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| 02:54.35 | D|nA | Red_Onyx, consider trying debian with openbox |
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| 02:55.09 | grinchier | ok with just pidgin and a terminal, 900gb |
| 02:55.26 | D|nA | grinchier, what's your DE/ |
| 02:55.34 | grinchier | comma,pm |
| 02:55.41 | grinchier | I think on fresh boot its like 650 or something |
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| 02:55.48 | grinchier | 650mb |
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| 02:56.02 | grinchier | and I have alot of services turned off lol |
| 02:56.04 | D|nA | that's a lot |
| 02:56.16 | D|nA | 110mb fresh boot |
| 02:56.20 | grinchier | with what? |
| 02:56.27 | grinchier | 110? wow lol |
| 02:56.30 | D|nA | like i said, deb8.1 openbox |
| 02:56.35 | grinchier | ohhh openbox |
| 02:56.36 | grinchier | ya |
| 02:56.58 | grinchier | i like lxde too |
| 02:57.19 | D|nA | it's ok but not for me |
| 02:57.26 | D|nA | i either setup openbox or xfce |
| 02:57.36 | grinchier | xfce doesn't feel like much less memory then cinnamon |
| 02:57.40 | grinchier | openbox is definitely light though |
| 02:58.13 | grinchier | there is the latest cinnamon in beta, maybe some improvements |
| 02:58.39 | grinchier | maybe in a month or two hey have an official release for it |
| 02:58.41 | D|nA | with xfce fresh boot is ~180mb |
| 02:58.54 | grinchier | xfce is a hog to me, but ok if you say so |
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| 02:59.41 | grinchier | much lighter the;n; cinnamon on cpu though thats for sure |
| 02:59.46 | Red_Onyx | I am using MATE |
| 02:59.51 | grinchier | cinnamon is pretty resource heavy on the cpu |
| 02:59.55 | grinchier | i've never used mate |
| 03:00.07 | Red_Onyx | Mate mimics old Gnome |
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| 03:00.24 | D|nA | cpu here is t2250, so cinna,gnome3 etc are out lol |
| 03:00.35 | Mikko- | I use i3, resource usage is next to nothing, don't even have to deal with pesky windows anymore :) |
| 03:00.42 | grinchier | lol |
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| 03:02.02 | grinchier | ya i was using the default debian whic has gnome , i don't like the gnome that much |
| 03:02.05 | grinchier | i want to install debian kde now |
| 03:02.15 | grinchier | i neve liked gnome i dunno why |
| 03:02.38 | grinchier | i like to have everything visible for one click access i guess |
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| 03:03.45 | D|nA | 1 click access? how? |
| 03:04.21 | grinchier | you know like the tabs |
| 03:04.24 | grinchier | icons |
| 03:04.48 | D|nA | everything has tabs |
| 03:04.54 | D|nA | icons, like desktop icons? |
| 03:05.07 | grinchier | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:05.58 | grinchier | it feels like a phone more then a pc to me i dunno |
| 03:07.19 | D|nA | well you can either go for kde or xfce and make it look like gnome2 or whatever you want or mate |
| 03:07.40 | grinchier | my favs are kde, lxde, and cinnamon, i guess that means I'm a windows convert lol |
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| 03:09.12 | D|nA | lxde has openbox installed too |
| 03:09.16 | grinchier | yep |
| 03:09.17 | D|nA | give it a try ) |
| 03:09.20 | grinchier | i have |
| 03:09.26 | D|nA | you didnt like it? |
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| 03:09.31 | grinchier | its ok |
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| 03:10.57 | grinchier | its too much like gnome |
| 03:11.29 | grinchier | i put lxde on an old windows xp laptop for my family |
| 03:11.56 | Mikko- | I did the same :p |
| 03:12.02 | D|nA | have it installed on a netbook |
| 03:12.04 | grinchier | nice |
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| 03:12.07 | D|nA | ran fine with 512mb ram |
| 03:12.18 | grinchier | ya theirs has 1gb |
| 03:12.26 | grinchier | it boots at 128 meg |
| 03:12.32 | grinchier | even runs xp in a vm if need be lol |
| 03:12.48 | D|nA | D: |
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| 03:50.39 | Pixer | hey everyone |
| 03:50.44 | WilliamDotAT | anyone can explain me why /etc/resolv.conf changes its entry at each reboot? |
| 03:51.06 | WilliamDotAT | i don't use DHCP anymore and override it in dhclient.conf and have a dns-nameservers line in network/interfaces |
| 03:51.14 | WilliamDotAT | yet it still sets the old DHCP DNS entry |
| 03:51.39 | somiaj | WilliamDotAT: there are various tools that will change that file, dhclient will and so will other tools like network manager. You could look at the package resolvconf and just tell it to keep it what you want. |
| 03:52.11 | WilliamDotAT | shouldnt the dns-nameservers in the interfaces overwrite it with the resolvconf package installed? |
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| 03:52.14 | somiaj | WilliamDotAT: what other tools do you use to for your network. |
| 03:52.26 | WilliamDotAT | none, its a headless system without network manager |
| 03:52.27 | somiaj | dns-nameservers in the interface file needs resolvconf to work |
| 03:52.28 | somiaj | or openresolv |
| 03:52.46 | WilliamDotAT | what i dont get is where it gets the value from |
| 03:52.50 | WilliamDotAT | DHCP is not enabled |
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| 03:54.24 | Pixer | is there anyway to identify with the Nickserv automatically in irssi after occaisional connection drops. |
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| 03:55.12 | grinchier | WilliamDotAT: because of network manager prolly |
| 03:55.42 | grinchier | disable networkmanager |
| 03:55.57 | grinchier | oh ok just read you already did that sorry |
| 03:56.02 | Rusty1 | Pixer: the #irssi channel might know? |
| 03:56.35 | Pixer | Rusty1: Thanks !! |
| 03:57.20 | ghormoon | Hi, is it possible to give nonroot user rw access to /dev/tty0? |
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| 04:14.23 | calher | How do I chroot? |
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| 04:17.07 | cafuego | chroot what |
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| 04:21.56 | calher | cafuego: I have system on another disk. I wanat to chroot into it to install program. |
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| 04:22.52 | cafuego | calher: Ah, right. first, bind mount /dev, /proc and /sys onto that, then 'chroot /target bash' |
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| 04:30.12 | calher | cafuego: thx |
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| 04:58.51 | ghormoon | Does debian backport kernel functionality? Especialy, does 3.16 in jessie support file seals (added in 3.17)? (I'm trying to figure out why open returns error 1 which may be because of seal) |
| 05:00.45 | calher | I chrooted into another system and tried to install NetworkManager. Package manager gave error. All is b0rked. |
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| 05:10.09 | emunah | hello |
| 05:10.25 | emunah | when i hit the print screen key on debian, where does the image go? |
| 05:11.17 | knivsta | hi |
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| 05:11.41 | somiaj | emunah: depends on your setup, not sure which desktops will have that setup by default. |
| 05:12.24 | emunah | i am on the latest debian i think |
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| 05:14.36 | somiaj | emunah: there are lots of different desktops and window managers, not all have that feature |
| 05:15.37 | emunah | sigh |
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| 05:15.52 | emunah | where would i go look? |
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| 05:16.09 | somiaj | I would start with what desktop you have, and then look for the keybindings |
| 05:17.33 | somiaj | emunah: https://wiki.debian.org/ScreenShots -- looks like if you hit alt-printscreen it will pop up a window and ask you where to save it |
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| 05:17.43 | somiaj | that is if you are using gnome |
| 05:18.43 | emunah | i heard a camera noise |
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| 05:19.05 | emunah | i'm not familar with the latest version of debian but i never heard that on older versions |
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| 05:25.19 | somiaj | emunah: I would call that a feature of the desktop. |
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| 05:29.09 | mnrmnaugh | emunah, a camera noise eh? sound like its printing YOUR screen lol. but rly if your runnig gnome its prolly that cheese program |
| 05:29.38 | emunah | there is nothing to print oo |
| 05:29.39 | emunah | too |
| 05:30.22 | mnrmnaugh | well it really would just take a pic and save to file |
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| 05:30.45 | mnrmnaugh | proooobably somewhere in ~/.cache or ~/.local |
| 05:30.50 | mnrmnaugh | maybe tmp |
| 05:30.59 | cosban | .g test |
| 05:31.29 | mnrmnaugh | but i am unfamilair with gnome. and jessie... |
| 05:32.27 | mnrmnaugh | i gave up on poor systemDebian after i couldnt get a font installed |
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| 05:34.52 | emunah | exit |
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| 05:56.14 | ender1618 | the following program: http://codepaste.net/hq9ahi im attempting to output the file to the folder produced by the mkdir what is the proper way of amending the output argument to do this |
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| 06:00.00 | somiaj | ender1618: does the program send output to stdout, if so you can just redirect it to the file with > fixed2/$i.log; done, or use >> if you want to append. |
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| 06:10.30 | ender1618 | its supposed to help me max downsize my camera DCIM folder so I can save space output is jpg |
| 06:10.35 | ender1618 | mas^ |
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| 06:19.31 | dontknow | hi! anyone tried compiling iceweasel with march=native on jessie? |
| 06:19.47 | dontknow | it gives me error |
| 06:19.55 | dontknow | at the end of compilation |
| 06:21.09 | dontknow | could someone help me to compile iceweasel with march=native please? |
| 06:21.38 | dontknow | anyone? |
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| 06:21.47 | dontknow | tell me something |
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| 07:11.45 | user513 | Hi, I got some .deb files, can I somehow add that on my usb stick so they get preinstalled when using debian install wizard? |
| 07:13.30 | at0m|c | !tell user513 -about dpkg |
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| 07:14.48 | user513 | at0mic: I know how to install them afterwards, but thats not what I wanted to know |
| 07:15.17 | user513 | at0mic: But thanks! ;) |
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| 07:15.49 | at0m|c | user513: there's a way to put them in paths and make your own repository |
| 07:16.14 | at0m|c | user513: then you can add that repo (from your stick) in the installer, me thinks |
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| 07:16.48 | abramelin_ | Hello |
| 07:17.00 | user513 | at0mIc: Ah, but I need to acess /etc/apt/sources.list somehow, right? |
| 07:17.03 | abramelin_ | Can anyone help me troubleshoot a problem? Sometimes when I resume from suspend, I get a hard lockup |
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| 07:17.22 | at0m|c | user513: i'm not sure how to make the repo. and, yes |
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| 07:17.36 | abramelin_ | I know that hard lockups are usually problems with the hardware, but I find it peculiar that it only happens when resuming from suspend. Can this be an exception? |
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| 07:21.31 | at0m|c | abramelin_: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=372450#p374240 describes how to unload and reload modules on suspend. maybe that can sort your problem. |
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| 07:36.29 | deSouza | can a file be missing from a country's ftp but not be missing from another? |
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| 07:37.19 | at0m|c | deSouza: on debian repository mirrors? i may hope mirrors are automated and complete. |
| 07:37.20 | phix | deSouza: Possible |
| 07:37.32 | phix | But unlikely |
| 07:37.33 | at0m|c | but indeed, possible |
| 07:37.53 | phix | deSouza: Try doing an apt-get update, you could be using an old cache |
| 07:38.02 | phix | old / out of date |
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| 07:38.24 | phix | lamrod: I read your nick as I am rod then :) |
| 07:40.07 | lamrod | :-) haha, never looked at it like that before. My middle name is actually Rhoderick and my last name is Lamb so I guess your assertion is also correct |
| 07:41.06 | deSouza | Package selinux-policy-default is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 07:42.06 | lamrod | okay thanks |
| 07:42.09 | lamrod | ;-) |
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| 08:08.58 | alaintno | Hi all |
| 08:09.04 | alaintno | I have a question |
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| 08:09.29 | zxd1 | don't threat |
| 08:09.32 | alaintno | I there a way to tell PAM to not lookup LDAP for the uid over 1000 AND below 300000 |
| 08:10.02 | alaintno | I have the "pam_ldap.so minimum_uid=1000" in common-auth |
| 08:10.10 | alaintno | Can I add another operator ? |
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| 08:58.46 | luv | hey there. just a quick question - can I put a version into provides? For example: python-vte depends on *exact* version of libvte-common, but I would like to patch libvte-common (and thus add my suffix after ~ in the version name) |
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| 09:00.23 | alxd | I am not sure how to read https://packages.debian.org/ version numbers. Does https://packages.debian.org/en/wheezy/kde-plasma-desktop mean that the Plasma is in 5.77 version? Do you know if Plasma 5 is available in Sid? |
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| 09:00.57 | SynrGy | kde-plasma-desktop is a metapackage. it has no '-' suffix, so it's "native" debian. so, no. |
| 09:01.10 | SynrGy | it has nothing to do with upstream's version#s. because here, debian is upstream |
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| 09:01.20 | SynrGy | it == the version# |
| 09:01.42 | SynrGy | look at the upstream components it Depends on |
| 09:02.00 | SynrGy | ,v kde-runtime |
| 09:02.01 | judd | Package: kde-runtime on amd64 -- wheezy: 4:4.8.4-2; stretch: 4:4.14.2-2; jessie: 4:4.14.2-2; sid: 4:4.14.2-2; experimental: 4:14.12.3-1 |
| 09:02.47 | SynrGy | hmm. that's, uh, interesting. sid has 4.14.2. experimental has .... 14.12.3? |
| 09:03.39 | SynrGy | upstream has done some interesting things to version#s of that :) |
| 09:03.52 | SynrGy | ,v plasma-desktop |
| 09:03.53 | judd | Package: plasma-desktop on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-6; stretch: 4:4.11.13-2; jessie: 4:4.11.13-2; sid: 4:4.11.13-2 |
| 09:04.09 | SynrGy | that should be reliable. |
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| 09:14.36 | SynrGy | alxd: i also refer you to https://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html ... look for plasma-desktop 4:5.2.2-1 there. stuck in NEW for 3 months. there's a huge backlog in NEW right now, but gradually it's being dealt with: https://ftp-master.debian.org/stat.html |
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| 09:19.16 | SynrG | luv: a) that's a question for #debian-mentors @ irc.oftc.net, and b) see https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-depsyntax |
| 09:19.41 | luv | SynrG: thanks |
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| 09:22.39 | SynrGy | rainbowtux: i guess you need to create a session for user 1001 then, as the error message states. dbus works within the context of sessions. |
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| 09:23.42 | SynrGy | rainbowtux: or else see the dbus-send man page. you can apparently dbus-send to the system message bus. is that what you wanted to do? |
| 09:23.59 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: but you can only create a session by logging in, which is silly for a service... Also, in the Java code we are using the system dbus, so this should not be a problem, not? |
| 09:24.17 | alxd | SynrG, thank you so much :) |
| 09:24.17 | SynrGy | as i said, see dbus-send man page re system bus :) |
| 09:24.24 | SynrGy | alxd: np |
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| 09:24.42 | SynrGy | rainbowtux: you can model what you want to do in Java with dbus-send first |
| 09:24.52 | SynrGy | rainbowtux: then figure out the Java stuff after |
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| 09:25.07 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: the problem using dbus-send is that i am logged in then, so then I do not get the error :) |
| 09:25.15 | SynrGy | rainbowtux: did you read the man page? |
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| 09:25.31 | SynrGy | i don't think you need to be logged in to use it ... |
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| 09:26.15 | SynrGy | --session Send to the session message bus. (This is the default.) |
| 09:26.24 | SynrGy | --system Send to the system message bus. |
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| 09:26.43 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: yes i did, and we use the option in the API to use the system dbus |
| 09:27.04 | SynrGy | rainbowtux: ineffectively, i guess, since the error message complained about user 1001 |
| 09:27.15 | SynrGy | wouldn't you need to be superuser to talk on the system bus? |
| 09:27.59 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: i am thinking something like that.. although we tried fixing that with polkit, but it is confusing and badly documented :/ |
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| 09:28.05 | SynrGy | maybe your process inherits dbus stuff from the environment that's confusing it? |
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| 09:28.38 | SynrGy | just a thought. could be that setting up the connection requires specifying stuff that defaults to environment values. |
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| 09:28.59 | SynrGy | i say this in ignorance, not having written such code (though i have used dbus-send in the past) |
| 09:29.03 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: could be... it must be something like that... or the java API is too old (on dbus site it dates from 2009, so i guess it is not maintained) |
| 09:29.46 | SynrGy | $ env | grep DBUS |
| 09:29.46 | SynrGy | DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS=unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-yIJZXSwt9O,guid=df352ed96110caa0a61a67c6557c1195 |
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| 09:30.49 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: i dont have that variable, probably because it is only a CLI login |
| 09:30.57 | SynrGy | aye |
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| 09:31.40 | SynrGy | but i think a) it's trying to use session mode, not system as you desired, b) the env var isn't set, so it doesn't know where to find it c) error results |
| 09:33.09 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: i'll look into it... all i see is that we are using system in the getConnection call, but maybe something else is influencing it... dbus etc is black magic :) |
| 09:33.23 | SynrGy | possibly yes :) |
| 09:33.33 | SynrGy | maybe you need a tutorial, not just reference doc |
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| 09:34.12 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: indeed... but tutorials are very basic with little explanation... decent docs would help for those low-level services |
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| 09:34.25 | SynrGy | or study some working java application talking to dbus |
| 09:34.25 | rainbowtux | but that is dbus' devs task :) |
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| 09:34.39 | SynrGy | a lot can be learned by reading other people's code |
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| 09:35.04 | SynrGy | and sure, assuming you sort it out, by all means file a bug on their doc to improve it with what you've learned. |
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| 09:35.25 | SynrGy | it's the perennial trouble with devs and doc. once you know how it works, it's "obvious" and not written down :) |
| 09:35.27 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: indeed... no need to let other people suffer as well :) |
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| 09:36.01 | SynrGy | good luck. and have fun :) |
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| 09:36.19 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: thanks :) |
| 09:37.18 | SynrGy | rainbowtux: ugly as sin, but assuming you can fork a shell from the java app, you could abstract away the call to the api, and in it for now, do a dbus-send. come back to it when your head doesn't hurt so much later and replace it with the correct API call |
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| 09:38.06 | rainbowtux | SynrGy: it might be a temp solution indeed |
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| 09:42.32 | SynrGy | luv: thinking about it some more, i guess you want to rebuild the 'vte' source pkg with your suffix and then you're OK, as python-vte and libvte-common come from this same source pkg. |
| 09:42.49 | SynrGy | oops, luv gone |
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| 09:51.17 | mrHat | can i get some help on CUPS here ? |
| 09:51.44 | ChrisH | mrHat: yes. Cups is used for printing. help enough? |
| 09:51.46 | ChrisH | !ask |
| 09:51.46 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 09:52.17 | mrHat | ok, so i have cups setup on a debian machine and everything configured by the book with a Zebra ZPL printer installed over USB. Everything was working fine until yesterday when i deleted the default PDF printer that comes after install and now the zpl printer dpsent work. lpstat -r shows everything ok. printer is idle and ready to take jobs |
| 09:52.27 | mrHat | but when i send a test page from the cups web interface i get something like this in the jobs list_ name: Desconocido , user: {job_originating_user_name} , status: stopped "/usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftopdf failed" |
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| 09:53.04 | mrHat | cups error log shows nothing relevant everything look normal |
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| 09:54.21 | ChrisH | What is a default pdf printer installed? Plesae show LC_ALL=C lpstat -t on paste.debian.net to begin |
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| 09:56.08 | mrHat | http://paste.debian.net/241145/ |
| 09:56.47 | mrHat | sorry |
| 09:57.06 | mrHat | ChrisH > Virtual PDF Printer was pre-installed as a default printer in cups |
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| 09:57.10 | hTml-school | hey |
| 09:57.20 | hTml-school | i'm configuring NIS on Debian Wheezy |
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| 09:58.15 | hTml-school | That's what happens when i'm trying to start NIS |
| 09:58.25 | hTml-school | http://htmldp.com/p/?flDN |
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| 09:58.49 | hTml-school | any ideas? |
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| 09:59.12 | ChrisH | mrHat: untill there is non-english content in, I cannot help. check ps -efl | grep lp if there are remaining jobs |
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| 10:00.27 | ChrisH | hTml-school: retry as root |
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| 10:00.38 | hTml-school | lol im dumb |
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| 10:00.58 | hTml-school | let's give it a try |
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| 10:01.06 | mrHat | http://paste.debian.net/241146/ |
| 10:01.18 | hTml-school | ChrisH: no effect : |
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| 10:07.48 | Dirkos | Is it possible to install mysql-server through aptitude with a predefined username/password (provisioning?) |
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| 10:19.43 | ChrisH | hTml-school: more details: export LC_ALL=C ; lsb_release -a and the startup script again and paste to paste.debian.net |
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| 10:24.24 | marlor | hi, i tried to disable ipv6, according to wiki https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6 the "even better"-solution, adding http://paste.debian.net/241152/ to /etc/sysctl.conf - but after a reboot there are still services listen on :: addresses - what did i miss? |
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| 10:25.02 | Dagger | marlor: the fact that it doesn't matter much if v6 is enabled? services listening on :: can accept v4 connections |
| 10:25.11 | Dagger | assuming you left net.ipv6.bindv6only set to 0 |
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| 10:26.07 | marlor | Dagger: sorry i dont understand, how can i disable it totaly? |
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| 10:26.40 | Dagger | I don't honestly know. I don't get why you'd do that; it'll break v6 |
| 10:27.18 | marlor | Dagger: i want to break v6, i want a v4-only machine |
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| 10:28.35 | Dagger | which seems kinda mad in this day and age... but you can do that well enough just by not configuring v6, surely? |
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| 10:29.39 | marlor | Dagger: sorry, my english is not good enough to understand what you mean |
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| 10:32.20 | DoctorD90 | hello channel :D ...how may I import&load/export a terminal profile from command line? |
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| 10:33.11 | squirrel1 | hi folks |
| 10:33.15 | Dagger | marlor: can't you just not configure a v6 address? |
| 10:33.26 | maazu | hello |
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| 10:34.32 | veverak | I have virtuals on my homeserver |
| 10:34.53 | veverak | it was setup and worked in a way that local "router" (mikrotik) still worked like dhcp server for the virtuals |
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| 10:35.06 | veverak | but now one virtual can't get ip address... |
| 10:35.15 | veverak | "send_packet: network is unreachable" |
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| 10:35.22 | veverak | any tips where to look for cause? |
| 10:35.52 | veverak | P.S: it was working setup, but I tried to add second bridge between host and virtuals (not connected to inet) for mgmnt |
| 10:36.19 | veverak | funny is that different virtual, with same network interfaces, got no problem with gettin addr :/ |
| 10:38.09 | marlor | Dagger: no, i cant |
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| 10:43.08 | msoa | hello, centos iptables file is in /etc/sysconfig/iptables, in debian where is this file? |
| 10:43.10 | blue_sky | is there still an ncurses config script for Exim4? If so, what's it called, I can't find it. |
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| 10:45.49 | teraflop | blue_sky: I put mine in /etc/default/iptables |
| 10:46.20 | blue_sky | teraflop: I think you're replying to msoa |
| 10:46.30 | teraflop | oh yes sorry |
| 10:46.51 | teraflop | msoa: /etc/default/iptables ? |
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| 10:47.50 | msoa | there is no file in /etc/default/iptables ! |
| 10:47.55 | blue_sky | ... found my answer: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 10:48.43 | teraflop | msoa: that's why i said: I *put* mine in ... |
| 10:48.50 | DoctorD90 | anyone that know how to expor/import&load profiles for terminal all from command line? :) |
| 10:49.02 | blue_sky | msoa: create it? |
| 10:49.17 | msoa | no |
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| 10:49.42 | phale | should I keep using Wheezy or burn the netinstall for Jessie to a new DVD? |
| 10:49.43 | msoa | i ddint change iptables role, but in defautl theres is rules (iptables -L) |
| 10:49.58 | msoa | i want no where is this rules saved? |
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| 10:50.14 | DrParoXysm | msoa: iptables-save, it will then create a /etc/iptables/rules.v4 |
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| 10:51.28 | msoa | DrParoXysm: by default where is rules? |
| 10:51.35 | msoa | after install OS |
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| 10:51.55 | DrParoXysm | msoa: only in memory |
| 10:52.05 | msoa | ok |
| 10:52.19 | msoa | DrParoXysm: how to these rules are created? |
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| 10:52.45 | DrParoXysm | msoa: tip;if you want them to survive a reboot, install the iptables-persistent and netfilter-persistent packages |
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| 10:55.41 | msoa | DrParoXysm: look my friend, i dont understand when i install the Debian, thefalut roles how to created? i want no it. (i know iptables save and restor) |
| 10:56.50 | msoa | *default roles |
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| 10:58.40 | teraflop | msoa: debian is debian, and centos is centos ... |
| 10:59.55 | msoa | i use debian |
| 11:01.21 | teraflop | msoa: and I felt that your were complaining about why iptables does not work the same in debian as in centos |
| 11:01.21 | msoa | i say by default in centos is /etc/sysconfig/iptables file for default rule, in debian is there like this file? |
| 11:02.29 | msoa | teraflop: yes and want know how to default rules are created :) |
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| 11:05.35 | maazu | dpkg: hello |
| 11:05.36 | dpkg | salut |
| 11:05.36 | teraflop | msoa: I believe there is no rules by default, I mean the default policy in a default installation is to ACCEPT all traffic, someone correct me if I'm wrong. |
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| 11:08.52 | msoa | teraflop: i felt you say right. when i install iptables, befor any rules creating, i use "iptables -L", and i see there are some rules. these rules how to created? |
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| 11:09.32 | msoa | teraflop: Do netfilter made these rules? |
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| 11:10.18 | BuzzardBuzz | teraflop: when i installed jessie amd64 LXDE destop there were no rules predefined for iptables |
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| 11:12.01 | BuzzardBuzz | basically for that instlall the firewall was turned off |
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| 11:12.33 | manjula | Can some one please tell me how to get my HP laserjet p1102 to print on both sides on Ubunut 14.04 ? |
| 11:12.40 | manjula | or is there any program like gnome manual duplex for ubuntu 14.04 ? |
| 11:13.04 | BuzzardBuzz | so to set some rules you can use a GUI or do it with scripts |
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| 11:13.44 | manjula | BuzzardBuzz: How ? |
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| 11:15.53 | msoa | thanks friends for help, i have to go,. |
| 11:16.01 | BuzzardBuzz | for my LXDE window manager gufu package install would do that with a GUI interface |
| 11:17.29 | BuzzardBuzz | the correct name for the package is gufw not gufu |
| 11:17.45 | BuzzardBuzz | my bad |
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| 11:23.55 | DoctorD90 | anyone that know how to expor/import&load profiles for terminal all from command line? :) |
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| 11:39.24 | BuzzardBuzz | terminal profile is likley an xml file that you can copy to export, overwrite to import |
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| 11:43.42 | BuzzardBuzz | the location for your xml terminal preferences file depends on your window manager that you have chosen to be running |
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| 11:47.24 | datenritter | hi everyone. after upgrading a machine to jessie i noticed that systemd runs into runlevel 5, though this is not set in inittab. also, it doesn't start bind9 anymore. i could use some hints on how to figure out where the problem is. |
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| 11:48.21 | datenritter | there's a S02bind9 in both /etc/rc[25].d. manually calling the init-script works fine. |
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| 11:52.02 | jelly | datenritter: bind9 has a native systemd service definition in jessie. Do you have the output of "systemctl status bind9" before starting it manually? |
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| 11:52.27 | Liam` | datenritter: not super familiar with debian, but if it's not in the init tab, is it in the list of kernel args in your bootloader? |
| 11:52.30 | jelly | datenritter: as you can see in dpkg -L bind9|grep systemd |
| 11:52.55 | datenritter | jelly: Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/bind9.service; disabled) / Drop-In: /run/systemd/generator/bind9.service.d / `-50-insserv.conf-$named.conf / Active: inactive (dead) |
| 11:53.04 | datenritter | jelly: why is it disabled? o.O |
| 11:53.19 | datenritter | Liam`: i'll check |
| 11:53.19 | jelly | datenritter: no idea, but enable it :-) |
| 11:53.49 | datenritter | jelly: how do i enable it? i thought, systemd would honor the settings in /etc/init.d/bind9 ? |
| 11:53.58 | datenritter | jelly: ran insserv bind9 already btw |
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| 11:54.36 | datenritter | Liam`: no, it's not in the command line according to syslog. |
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| 11:55.10 | datenritter | is there a quick guide on systemd and relevant changes for debian somewhere? it looks like there's a mixture of different service configurations now... |
| 11:55.14 | ScarZy | Got a werid Fstab error where it doesn't mount during boot, but mounts when I manually do mount -a - any ideas? |
| 11:55.15 | jelly | datenritter: again, existence of native service overrides an init script with same name. systemctl enable bind9 |
| 11:55.21 | jelly | !systemd |
| 11:55.21 | dpkg | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and is the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>. |
| 11:55.28 | Liam` | ScarZy: what's the error? |
| 11:55.36 | jelly | datenritter: ^^ the wiki page |
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| 11:55.48 | ScarZy | I don't get one when running -v, just mounts it when I do -a afterwards |
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| 11:55.58 | ScarZy | So I assume the line is okay |
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| 11:59.05 | Liam` | ScarZy: are you using lvm, or lukskey/cryptsetup at all? |
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| 11:59.40 | ScarZy | No nothing that fancy, all disks are NTFS so I guessed auto would do. It boots the other 2 partitions, but the third doesn't work for some reason. Bit stunted! |
| 11:59.56 | ScarZy | /dev/sdb1 /media/storage ntfs noatime 0 0 |
| 12:00.13 | ScarZy | Assuming improvements could be made to this line, but I thought it would do that regardless (from /etc/fstab) |
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| 12:02.51 | Liam` | ScarZy: Can you mount -o remount that /media/storage location without issue? |
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| 12:05.30 | datenritter | ok, i fugured "systemctl activate bind9" will do the trick. now, where does that runlevel 5 come from? is it the new standard or did something go wrong? |
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| 12:06.12 | ScarZy | It seems so |
| 12:06.25 | ScarZy | It's only local, so I'll try the rc.local trick and see what happens for now, brb! |
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| 12:07.23 | Liam` | datenritter: related, it looks; http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/170703 |
| 12:07.29 | BuzzardBuzz | ScarZy: Just a quick note--remember that when you create a new /etc/fstab entry, you also need to create the mount point's directory if it doesn't already exist. |
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| 12:08.43 | Liam` | BuzzardBuzz: Would mount -a still succeed even if the mountpoint wasn't created yet, or is that an onboottime error only? |
| 12:08.56 | BuzzardBuzz | yes |
| 12:09.03 | ScarZy | The location already exists, that's why I'm a bit unsure |
| 12:09.13 | datenritter | ok, for a start i will aptitude purge sysvinit ^^ |
| 12:09.33 | BuzzardBuzz | the permissions for the existing folder also make a difference |
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| 12:10.06 | datenritter | interesting, didn't remove the now obsolete /etc/inittab |
| 12:10.07 | ScarZy | That's true but shouldn't that affect it post boot, since boot is all run by root? |
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| 12:11.14 | datenritter | Liam`: thanks. i see, runlevels have nearly no meaning anymore. |
| 12:11.32 | scwizard | is there any way with apt-get install to not install the config files? |
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| 12:11.41 | scwizard | I know it's a strange thing to ask |
| 12:12.02 | datenritter | scwizard: why would you want to do that? |
| 12:12.31 | Liam` | datenritter: np, I'm not super familiar with systemd myself, still getting used to it. Never had a situation where I needed to change runlevels on jessie, so. |
| 12:12.57 | scwizard | datenritter: actual reason, because the configuration directory for ansible is a vagrant shared folder, and vagrant installs ansible after it mounts the shared folder |
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| 12:13.13 | scwizard | so I end up with some extra annoying files installed on my host machine |
| 12:13.28 | datenritter | Liam`: we also won't have to deal with those targets a lot, i guess. |
| 12:13.50 | scwizard | i'd really just prefer apt to leave siad shared folder alone |
| 12:14.08 | datenritter | scwizard: ok, but you could "just" delete them after the installation... (i know, this is not perfect.) |
| 12:14.22 | scwizard | datenritter: exactly it's not perfect |
| 12:14.37 | scwizard | and I know apt has a lot of flags, so I was wondering if one of them could exclude the installation of configuration files |
| 12:15.44 | scwizard | i guess not though |
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| 12:17.45 | Liam` | In a situation like that, I would just list the configurations for those packages, and auto-remove them after the package is installed, though I'm not sure the context around not wanting the files there (not needed, it breaks permissions, etc)? |
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| 12:18.16 | BuzzardBuzz | ScasZy: /dev/sda1 /mnt/Windows ntfs-3g quiet,defaults,locale=en_US.utf8,umask=0,noexec 0 0 |
| 12:18.41 | scwizard | hmm chef is erroring after saying dpkg gave the interactive "what would you like to do about these conflicting config files" |
| 12:19.24 | BuzzardBuzz | example fstab entry for a windows ntfs partition |
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| 12:21.00 | scwizard | "File also in package provided by package maintainer. What would you like to do about it ? Your options are:" |
| 12:21.06 | scwizard | I want to answer "no" non interactively |
| 12:21.29 | scwizard | erm "keep your currently-installed version" non interactively |
| 12:21.29 | jelly | scwizard: read about confold and friends in dpkg manual. Call dpkg with appropriate options. |
| 12:22.25 | jelly | dpkg, tell scwizard about confold |
| 12:22.45 | jelly | (there's also "confdef" among the friends) |
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| 12:30.46 | ScarZy | BuzzardBuzz - i'll adopt that |
| 12:31.26 | BuzzardBuzz | when you reboot mount will delete the mount point folder |
| 12:32.01 | BuzzardBuzz | you need to create the folder and not try to mount it then fstab will work |
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| 12:32.19 | BuzzardBuzz | when you reboot |
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| 12:33.38 | ScarZy | Im a little confused with what you just said buddy, I need to just let fstab do it's magic? I thought it was necessary to make the mountpoint and then let it mount to that upon boot |
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| 12:34.28 | BuzzardBuzz | you are correct you need to make the folder, if mount creates the folder it wont survive a reboot |
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| 12:35.48 | ScarZy | ah okay |
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| 12:40.03 | scwizard | jelly: thanks, confold was the key |
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| 12:44.51 | ScarZy | same issue BuzzardBuzz, really strange |
| 12:45.05 | ScarZy | It says that nothing mounts when I run mount -a after boot, so it almost fails to mount |
| 12:45.28 | ScarZy | Just tried adding it to rc.local (mount -a) which works, but i'm a little confused as to why |
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| 12:48.22 | BuzzardBuzz | could be an issue with the amount of time needed for that drive to spin up and work as compared to the boot drive |
| 12:48.54 | ScarZy | Yeah I think it might be too |
| 12:49.07 | BuzzardBuzz | fstab may be trying to mount it before its ready |
| 12:49.08 | ScarZy | Not sure about how to adapt that either (it has it's own power) |
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| 12:49.47 | BuzzardBuzz | mounting it last in rc.local should work fine to add the needed dely |
| 12:49.49 | Liam` | Well, mount -a won't say anything is being mounted (if for example, something has yet to be mounted) |
| 12:49.54 | Liam` | keep that in mind |
| 12:50.13 | BuzzardBuzz | *delay |
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| 12:50.22 | ScarZy | Is there a way to change the amount of time given to mount? |
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| 12:50.33 | ScarZy | local works fine, but would prefer it to come from fstab |
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| 12:53.57 | BuzzardBuzz | the option _netdev will add the delay time until the network is up, this may give your device enough time to be ready inside fstab |
| 12:54.37 | BuzzardBuzz | hope that helps |
| 12:54.51 | ScarZy | does a lot, thanks BuzzardBuzz, Liam` |
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| 12:55.37 | BuzzardBuzz | :) you are very welcome |
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| 13:25.57 | er4z0r | Can apt theoretically handle repository urls with a .onion domain? |
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| 13:26.23 | er4z0r | i.e. would it be possible to host an apt repository as a tor hidden service? |
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| 13:35.46 | jelly | er4z0r: if it is accessible via http protocol, yes |
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| 13:41.23 | Stummi | iirc onion-domains are resolved by the proxy, so you have just to set up tor as proxy for apt |
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| 13:45.55 | h0pe | hello all ! i used live-build to craft my own debian. I then tweak and customize many things. Is it possible (and how) pack my brand new customized distro to distribute it ? Any help will be precious ! thanks in advance |
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| 13:49.44 | er4z0r | jelly: Stummi thanks for confirming |
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| 13:55.18 | dfacto | could anyone recommend a package to manage iptables via a web gui ? |
| 13:57.11 | dondelelcaro | dfacto: there are some, but I'd actually suggest using something like ferm instead |
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| 13:59.00 | dfacto | dondelelcaro i will look into it, thanks |
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| 14:02.34 | TheParadox` | hello all. can someone tell me how to install gnutls on debian7 x84_64 |
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| 14:05.00 | TheParadox` | anyone?:) |
| 14:05.42 | themill | TheParadox`: what are you really trying to do? |
| 14:05.58 | TheParadox` | install gnutls on a devian 7 based VPS to be used with an ircd |
| 14:05.59 | newnews | www.VALBOT.com provides domain valuations. Reporting globally on Site Traffic, Pagerank, Malware, WHOIS data, SEO & even Social Media presence. |
| 14:06.04 | ChrisH | TheParadox`: aptitude search gnutls |
| 14:06.08 | dfacto | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnutls-bin |
| 14:06.24 | TheParadox` | i did apt-get install gnutls-bin and it didnt see it |
| 14:06.54 | dfacto | TheParadox` do what ChrisH said |
| 14:06.56 | themill | what is "it"? |
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| 14:07.06 | h0pe | ping debhelper |
| 14:07.51 | TheParadox` | found many ChrisH |
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| 14:08.57 | themill | TheParadox`: can you please take a step back and tell us what you're actually trying to achieve. Avoiding words like "it" and listing the specific outcomes you're trying to achieve would help. |
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| 14:09.39 | h0pe | Any one for my debian repack question ? |
| 14:09.40 | TheParadox` | i think i replied themill |
| 14:09.58 | themill | not really |
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| 14:10.22 | TheParadox` | i have a debian 7 based VPS and i want to install an irc deamon and i want to install GNUTLS to use with that |
| 14:10.30 | themill | "an irc daemon"... |
| 14:10.42 | themill | seriously, I left my crystal ball at home toady. |
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| 14:13.54 | h0pe | Any help ? |
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| 14:21.36 | h0pe | Is there a way after live-build debian and launch it, to make some customization and then repacking this new version for further distribution. If yes how? thanks a lot ! |
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| 14:24.52 | h0pe | I'm surely missing something, basically I need a "live-REbuild" or something..any help, idea. Links will be welcome and precious.. :) |
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| 14:28.37 | h0pe | Any help ? |
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| 14:32.28 | jelly | no idea, but |
| 14:32.29 | jelly | !live |
| 14:32.29 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
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| 14:35.07 | h0pe | thanks, i managed to build my own this way. The thing is being able to repack this live-build after creating it and after many customization (for example desktop and so forth)..? |
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| 14:35.58 | BobTheAngryCat | so I ran "losetup -f" and a loop device was created. But.. where is it's file? |
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| 14:36.09 | h0pe | a kind of "re-build" option...i do not manage to find info on it..Someone ever tried this before? |
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| 14:37.54 | karlpinc | BobTheAngryCat: In /dev/ with the rest of the devices. |
| 14:38.40 | karlpinc | BobTheAngryCat: Or that's where mine always wind up. I forget how I make them. |
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| 14:39.26 | BobTheAngryCat | karlpinc: the loop device is in /dev/ but its corresponding file, where is it? |
| 14:39.29 | karlpinc | h0pe: There's a debian package for it. Search for "live" or something. |
| 14:40.28 | karlpinc | BobTheAngryCat: You can mount any file you like on it, or any file that has a fs inside itself. |
| 14:41.15 | DammitJim | does dd do a bit by bit copy? |
| 14:43.16 | karlpinc | BobTheAngryCat: Usually the easy way is mount -o loop and then it makes the loop device and let you mount whatever file on whatever mountpoint. (Techinically, I misspoke. In that you don't mount "on" a loop device. It's just in the background doing "stuff".) |
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| 14:43.35 | BobTheAngryCat | is losetup the only way to mount a file to a loop device? |
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| 14:43.47 | dondelelcaro | BobTheAngryCat: |
| 14:43.52 | karlpinc | DammitJim: Yes. Unless you tell it otherwise. But it copies blocks, not bits. |
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| 14:44.01 | dondelelcaro | BobTheAngryCat: no, you can just mount -o loop foofile bardir; |
| 14:44.14 | dondelelcaro | (though that actually uses losetup under the hood, so...) |
| 14:44.28 | BobTheAngryCat | wow, there are so many ways to do the same thing.. |
| 14:44.35 | karlpinc | h0pe: Don't /msg individuals. Talk to the channel. |
| 14:45.01 | dondelelcaro | the advantage of mount is that you usually want to mount the thing after running losetup. If you don't, then don't use mount. |
| 14:45.23 | karlpinc | h0pe: Install the live-manual package and read it to find out how to do what you want. Or read at the debian live project. |
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| 14:45.48 | BobTheAngryCat | you can use encryption with losetup. So why mount a loop device and then mount it again with dm-crypt? |
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| 14:46.22 | BobTheAngryCat | dondelelcaro: you can mount files with losetup directly |
| 14:47.40 | karlpinc | BobTheAngryCat: Often unix tools invoke other tools. It's the unix way. |
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| 14:48.22 | karlpinc | BobTheAngryCat: You can do everything at the lowest level, or use an uber-tool that combines the functionality in a commonly used way. |
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| 14:55.44 | BobTheAngryCat | karlpinc: yeah, But I mean, it's creating overhead in this case I'd guess |
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| 15:00.08 | DammitJim | oh ok, thanks for correcting me |
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| 15:04.24 | BobTheAngryCat | so many god damn niggers in my neighborhood. They too my TV and everything. |
| 15:04.43 | BobTheAngryCat | but I don't want to go as far as to commend hitler for what he did |
| 15:04.50 | BobTheAngryCat | although I can understand him |
| 15:04.55 | petn-randall | !ops BobTheAngryCat |
| 15:04.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: BobTheAngryCat |
| 15:05.11 | BobTheAngryCat | wrong window btw |
| 15:05.24 | BobTheAngryCat | that was for a private conversation |
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| 15:07.03 | BobTheAngryCat | to be fair, it's a true story. Got home, no TV and no bike left and I live in the suburb with 80% afro americans, but that was for a private conversation. |
| 15:07.15 | BobTheAngryCat | happened just recently |
| 15:07.20 | billydaz_ | Hi |
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| 15:07.54 | billydaz_ | what happens if while running tar -czf my system hibernates |
| 15:07.59 | matthiaskrgr | lol |
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| 15:08.23 | matthiaskrgr | jelly: gj :3 |
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| 15:13.10 | ChrisH | billydaz_: the tar will stop until the system get up again.... but I assume this is not what you want to hear. |
| 15:13.22 | nopf | billydaz_: you mean what happens when the system hibernates while the computer does anythong at all? it hibernates! |
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| 15:14.56 | nopf | billydaz_: is what you mean if the file is somehow corrupted because of the suspended writing? it feels that way, but there is nothing special with tar -f , it's writing to a normal file, not like a tape device or such... |
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| 15:15.26 | billydaz_ | yes |
| 15:15.42 | billydaz_ | I am writing to file within the directory |
| 15:15.53 | nopf | so don't worry at all. if you get no error message on waking up, everything is ok |
| 15:16.01 | billydaz_ | but I want to compress to keep the integrity |
| 15:16.15 | ChrisH | similar to CTRL-Z and fg it |
| 15:16.24 | billydaz_ | ooo ok |
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| 15:17.36 | billydaz_ | thanks Guys |
| 15:17.41 | billydaz_ | I would brave it |
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| 15:24.20 | zykotick9 | billydaz_: "I want to compress to keep the integrity", i'd argue compression does the opposite... if we assume for a moment hibernate did cause an issue, because of the compress the entire file _may_ be corrupted - without compresssion some might be able to be saved... just sayin' |
| 15:25.27 | ChrisH | zykotick9: I understood the intention was to detect _if_ there is anything fishy woith the archive. Therefore gzip or better bzip'ing helps. |
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| 15:26.21 | billydaz_ | zykotick9: I think compression is a form of integrity |
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| 15:26.33 | zykotick9 | ChrisH: ahh, well if the object is to fail, then you're right compressing _might_ show that more clearly |
| 15:26.46 | billydaz_ | That way you can compare anything different |
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| 15:28.10 | zykotick9 | notes, a checksum is a better integrity check... |
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| 15:29.12 | ChrisH | I use compression very often to ensure integrity via transport... checksum is only an option if you have access to the same information ob both sides and needs a second information/channel to be transfered. bzip2 is easier to script fails -> correupt file, retry |
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| 15:30.02 | billydaz_ | ChrisH: I personally think tar is most reliable |
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| 15:30.37 | p3rror | hello |
| 15:30.51 | p3rror | I'm running nrpe as inetd service |
| 15:31.00 | p3rror | I need to restart it ? |
| 15:31.09 | p3rror | without restarting all inetd |
| 15:31.19 | p3rror | please can you help to do that ? |
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| 15:33.49 | chrisde2 | hi, where does this message come from: dummy0: received packet on tap0 with own address as source address |
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| 15:37.39 | ChrisH | p3rror: Why are you running nrpe as inetd service? nrpe is normally called quite often |
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| 15:38.17 | p3rror | ChrisH: that's what I find in server client |
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| 15:38.18 | ChrisH | p3rror: BTW, simply killing the running process should force inetd fire up a new one on the next connection |
| 15:38.34 | p3rror | ChrisH: how can I do that |
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| 15:38.51 | p3rror | kill -9 $pid |
| 15:39.03 | ChrisH | p3rror: what Debian version are you running with nrpe intergrated to inetd? |
| 15:39.31 | p3rror | I dont have Debian in this server client |
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| 15:39.39 | p3rror | I run HPUX |
| 15:40.07 | p3rror | but All I need to know is is there a way to restart nrpe without restarting inetd |
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| 15:40.42 | ChrisH | kill PID should force inetd to fireup a new one. |
| 15:40.55 | dondelelcaro | p3rror: every new connection in inetd should be a new nrpe |
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| 15:41.23 | jhutchins | p3rror: Try kill -HUP (15) before kill -9. |
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| 15:41.59 | p3rror | The server is important |
| 15:42.11 | p3rror | critical |
| 15:42.37 | Nik05 | hey, what happend witht the debian-live-...-rescue images? |
| 15:42.37 | p3rror | So kill -HUP load the inted conf |
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| 15:43.24 | ChrisH | p3rror: no onw told you to send a signal to inetd, kill the running nrpe process!!! |
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| 15:44.16 | p3rror | ChrisH: there is no nrpe process running |
| 15:44.36 | p3rror | but the port is listen on 5666 |
| 15:44.52 | ChrisH | p3rror: then the next request from your nagios server will fire up a new process. The listener on that port is inetd himslef. |
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| 15:46.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | so when did you guys fix mtp in nautilus? |
| 15:46.31 | p3rror | ChrisH: the process nrpe is not running |
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| 15:46.40 | teraflop | Eryn_1983_FL: was it broken? |
| 15:46.57 | p3rror | ChrisH: I can not kill the process |
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| 15:47.22 | Spr1ng | I'm trying to restore an image of a HD I took using "dd if=/dev/sda conv=sync,noerror bs=64K | gzip -c > /media/Backup/sda/sda.img.gz" but when I initiate "gunzip -c /media/Backup/sda/sda.img.gz | dd of=/dev/sda conv=sync,noerror bs=64K" it just returns to the prompt and doesn't do anything, how can I troubleshoot this to find out why it's not proceeding? |
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| 15:47.30 | billydaz_ | p3rror: thought you just said the process was not running? |
| 15:48.02 | chrisde2 | is this message related to MAC address or can it also be related to ipv4 or ipv6? dummy0: received packet on tap0 with own address as source address |
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| 15:49.09 | p3rror | billydaz_: the process is not running, and there are error on syslog about nrpe this is why I need to restart nrpe without restarting the hole inetd |
| 15:49.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | for awhile teraflop for my motox, now i just pop it in and it found my phone in nautilus and i copied my stuff over. |
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| 15:49.42 | ChrisH | p3rror: show us the errors on paste.debian.net |
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| 15:50.00 | greycat | I don't know what an nrpe is, but if it is a service managed by a traditional inetd daemon, then inetd *is* what listens for connections, and runs the service upon receiving one. |
| 15:50.03 | billydaz_ | when you run a netstat -anpe | grep nrpe |
| 15:50.10 | billydaz_ | what do you see |
| 15:50.25 | teraflop | Eryn_1983_FL: oh, didnt notice when I used it, anyway glad to hear that |
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| 15:50.31 | ChrisH | billydaz_: that netstat will not work on HPUX |
| 15:50.39 | greycat | So if it's run by inetd, you would NOT expect to see one unless a connection has been made. |
| 15:50.44 | billydaz_ | ooo didnt see that |
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| 15:51.52 | billydaz_ | then run netstat -np |
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| 15:52.01 | greycat | what. |
| 15:52.29 | greycat | 1) why is HP-UX advice being sought in #debian and not #hpux, 2) HP-UX netstat doesn't have -p |
| 15:52.49 | greycat | 3) see what I said about inetd |
| 15:52.54 | p3rror | netstat - | |
| 15:52.59 | p3rror | netstat -a | grep nrpe |
| 15:53.11 | p3rror | return that nrpe is listening |
| 15:53.33 | greycat | p3rror: if you don't know anything about HP-UX, just don't try to answer |
| 15:53.56 | p3rror | I'm fun of debian and maintener too |
| 15:54.07 | p3rror | but the client run HPUX |
| 15:54.09 | p3rror | :( |
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| 15:54.39 | greycat | Shall I *SHOW YOU* what netstat -a output looks like on HP-UX? |
| 15:54.40 | p3rror | I think that we get a fast reply in #debian that other channel |
| 15:54.52 | ChrisH | p3rror: you did still not understood how inetd works. That netstat check is useless. It's just showing that the port is managed by inetd. rerun the nagios check and see if its OK. |
| 15:55.03 | greycat | It's useless for TWO reasons. |
| 15:55.10 | greycat | 1) inetd doesn't work like that, as we've said 3 times |
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| 15:55.28 | greycat | 2) HP-UX does not include the name of the process doing the listening, and there is NO WAY to get that process name out of netstat |
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| 15:56.17 | ChrisH | greycat: netstat -a does resolve the nrpe port from /etc/service and therefore confused some admins |
| 15:56.54 | greycat | Ah, it's a service name, not a process name! |
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| 15:56.57 | greycat | That's a part I was missing. |
| 15:57.11 | ChrisH | its both... service name and process name |
| 15:57.23 | p3rror | greycat: we see that *.nrpe listen |
| 15:57.40 | p3rror | mean that port 5666 is listenning |
| 15:57.41 | greycat | is allergic to netstat -a without -n |
| 15:58.02 | ChrisH | p3rror: I asked you to show the error messages from syslog, because our are hunting a ghost currently |
| 15:58.09 | ChrisH | greycat: me, too :) |
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| 15:59.26 | jelly | greycat: then you'll LOVE lsof's unconditional resolving of /etc/services for ports even with -n! |
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| 16:01.13 | greycat | jelly: looks like you need -P too |
| 16:01.31 | greycat | at least in jessie's lsof |
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| 16:02.07 | p3rror | ChrisH: OK I'll be back in 20 min |
| 16:02.17 | jelly | ! |
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| 16:29.08 | calher | Debian needs to get rid of non-free and contrib and stop helping people install their junk WiFi cards. |
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| 16:30.57 | karlpinc | greycat: I've finally gone to ss instead of netcat. And ip. I knew it was going to happen sooner or later.... |
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| 16:35.35 | jelly | itym netstat |
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| 16:36.43 | p3rror | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/241490/ |
| 16:37.16 | dondelelcaro | calher: you can easily ignore the fact that non-free and contrib exist at all |
| 16:37.23 | dondelelcaro | by default we don't even include them |
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| 16:37.42 | rexwin_ | where is the default docroot for apache in debian? |
| 16:37.44 | calher | I don't want to see anyone in this channel talk about non-free stuff. |
| 16:37.55 | muhnewbnc | i have a non-free wifi chip |
| 16:37.57 | muhnewbnc | it kills me ;( |
| 16:37.59 | calher | Unless it is to speak against it, of course. |
| 16:38.13 | jelly | calher: best keep the politics out of this tech support channel, and when you have a channel of your own set the policies there as you like them |
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| 16:38.20 | muhnewbnc | Broadcom Corporation BCM43225 802.11b/g/n (rev 01) |
| 16:38.29 | calher | muhnewbnc: I think I have a spare external dongle that works. |
| 16:38.31 | muhnewbnc | help me find one that has free drivers? <3 |
| 16:38.43 | muhnewbnc | i do too |
| 16:38.50 | calher | muhnewbnc: Use that. |
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| 16:41.07 | ChrisH | p3rror: the pronlem is nrpe config, not allowing any argumants to be passed. see dont_blame_nrpe option in configfile |
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| 16:43.12 | calher | elly: Libre software for users exists because of politics. Being against politics and being neutral might be the hip thing to do, but it's self-defeating and misses the point of libre software. |
| 16:43.28 | p3rror | ChrisH: so what do you suggest ? does restarting the service is a solution |
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| 16:44.55 | ChrisH | p3rror: do you read what we write? check the config and fix it. The next time an nrpe request gets send, inetd fires up a new nrpe process.... I am tiered in repeating the way inetd works every few lines. |
| 16:44.59 | dondelelcaro | muhnewbnc: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/wireless-n-pci-express-dual-band-mini-half-height-card-tpe-nhmpcied or similar might be useful |
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| 16:48.26 | HyperWeegie | Hey guys |
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| 16:49.04 | HyperWeegie | Trying to upgrade my debian system to testing or sid but every time I go to upgrade I end up with dependency problems with man-db. Is there a known workaround or will I just need to hang tight? |
| 16:49.08 | p3rror | OK ChrisH thank you |
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| 17:05.02 | skandix | Ello, anyone who have installed amd gpu driver 14.2 on debian without clusterfucking the system? |
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| 17:07.33 | karlpinc | HyperWeegie: Testing breaks. Sid more so. |
| 17:08.02 | HyperWeegie | karlpinc, Indeed yes |
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| 17:15.15 | servantjesse | skandix: try rephrasing your question without the ignorant perverseness and someone might offer you some help. |
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| 17:29.53 | format_c | Since I have upgraded to jessie, All elements in my xcfe4-panel are left aligned. Before it was possible to freely align the widgets |
| 17:30.13 | format_c | Has somebody else face this issue? And may know a solution also? |
| 17:31.41 | HyperWeegie | format_c, Does the issue continue when you create a new panel? |
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| 17:32.51 | format_c | Yes |
| 17:33.10 | format_c | I found a solution here: http://superuser.com/questions/427602/xfce-4-10-panel-broken-align |
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| 17:33.22 | format_c | My first search terms seem to be bad |
| 17:33.41 | format_c | Had to insert a separator make it transparent and expand it |
| 17:33.50 | HyperWeegie | format_c, Ahh good, was just about to look for something like that |
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| 17:35.30 | skandix | servantjesse: i'm having problems with installing the newest amd driver on debian jessie |
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| 17:39.15 | jhutchins | !amd |
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| 17:39.16 | dpkg | Advanced Micro Devices is a semiconductor manufacturer. For support of ATI/AMD graphics hardware, ask me about <ati>. See also <amd64>, <coolnquiet>, <k7>. |
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| 17:39.52 | jelly | !tell jhutchins about msg the bot |
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| 17:40.23 | greycat | I thought jhutchins was responding to skandix |
| 17:40.33 | jhutchins | !ati |
| 17:40.33 | dpkg | Where possible, most ATI/AMD graphics processing units are supported using the open source "radeon" driver on Debian systems by default, ask me about <radeon>. To install the proprietary "fglrx" driver, ask me about <fglrx>; installing this directly from amd.com (i.e. with the AMD Catalyst installer) is not supported in #debian, please go to #ati on irc.freenode.net. |
| 17:40.36 | jhutchins | Yep |
| 17:40.45 | jelly | greycat: with a useless factoid |
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| 17:41.35 | jhutchins | skandix: So what are you actually trying to install, and how, and what happened that wasn't what you expected? |
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| 17:42.48 | skandix | jhutchins: installed the driver so i could could use all of my montors.. installed it generated the config... reboot... no screens found |
| 17:42.55 | skandix | not able to start xorg |
| 17:42.59 | greycat | So you are in fact talking about some sort of *video card* driver. |
| 17:43.24 | skandix | yea....thats what i said when i joined |
| 17:43.27 | greycat | What video driver did you try to install? Exact name and version. URLs would help. |
| 17:43.28 | skandix | amd gpu driver |
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| 17:43.49 | jhutchins | skandix: As you can see from dpkg's factoid, there's more than one. |
| 17:44.49 | DammitJim | is there a utility that will compare two files that are binary? |
| 17:44.57 | DammitJim | I just want to know if the 2 files are identical or not |
| 17:45.40 | greycat | cmp |
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| 17:47.03 | hlieberman | Is there a way to get NetworkManager to not trample routes set by outside things that route set? |
| 17:47.23 | hlieberman | I've got a java thing that alters my routes, but as soon as NM sees that happened, it goes and stomps all over them. |
| 17:47.34 | grinchier | in interfaces maybe |
| 17:48.02 | jelly | outside thing need to either work with NM, or NM needs to be told to ignore those interfaces |
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| 17:49.04 | jelly | hlieberman: the simplest way to make NetworkManager ignore an interface is probably to configure it via /etc/network/interfaces, instead |
| 17:49.20 | hlieberman | It's a VPN, unfortunately. |
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| 17:49.57 | jelly | NM itself supports a couple most common VPN implementations (openvpn, vpnc, possibly others) |
| 17:50.10 | hlieberman | It's a weird Juniper thing. |
| 17:50.21 | hlieberman | Junos Pulse |
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| 17:51.02 | jelly | perhaps openconnect supports it |
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| 17:51.40 | n1md4 | hi. recently upgraded to jessie, and have noticed php sites no longer load. i'm running nginx with php5-fpm |
| 17:51.50 | hlieberman | Despite what openconnect says it supports, it doesn't seem to be supporting it, even in the package in stretch. |
| 17:52.12 | greycat | n1md4: Make sure you correctly configure the user/group/permissions on the unix socket that php/nginx are using. |
| 17:52.32 | jelly | hlieberman: if the interface is always created with the same name, just put an appropriate noop definition in interfaces... "iface foo inet manual" |
| 17:52.44 | greycat | I don't know if anything in jessie changed there. My VPS is still on wheezy. |
| 17:53.08 | n1md4 | could you upgrade it then, in the name of testing :P :) |
| 17:53.10 | gut | hello, I've done an unofficial port of an existing debian package to a new architecture. I even managed to make a .deb file but now I'd like to know if it's possible to have it officially on debian. How does this process works? |
| 17:53.34 | n1md4 | greycat: how can i check the unix sockets? |
| 17:53.37 | gut | for those who are curious, the package is LuaJIT ( https://packages.debian.org/sid/luajit ) and the architecture is powerpc64 |
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| 17:54.33 | greycat | $ ls -l /var/run/php5-fpm.sock |
| 17:54.33 | greycat | srw-rw---- 1 www-data www-data 0 Jun 8 12:49 /var/run/php5-fpm.sock |
| 17:54.45 | jelly | gut: if it's packaged in debian, file a wishlist bug for it and reference your patchset. It's probably better to get it accepted by the upstream author first. |
| 17:55.18 | jelly | s/if/since/; |
| 17:55.19 | n1md4 | greycat: same as yours :-\ |
| 17:55.30 | greycat | n1md4: what error are you getting in the logs? |
| 17:55.48 | gut | jelly: upstream author you mean " Enrico Tassi"? the debian mantainer? |
| 17:56.02 | greycat | Upstream is where Debian takes software from. |
| 17:56.20 | jelly | gut: no, the actual author of the software in question |
| 17:57.37 | gut | jelly: greycat: roger. Thanks for the help for now |
| 17:57.47 | n1md4 | greycat: neither nginx nor php are giving me errors. the php application in question is vimbadmin (virtual mail admin), but this does not produce any meaningful log either. |
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| 17:58.08 | greycat | There must be SOME error somewhere. |
| 17:58.13 | greycat | What does it say in the web browser? |
| 17:58.17 | n1md4 | there should be |
| 17:58.35 | n1md4 | the browser shows a blank page, but with the favico loaded |
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| 18:07.26 | n1md4 | no other reports or php5 errors with jessie then? as this is 2 different systems that both display the same problem. |
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| 18:10.57 | rexwin_ | Hi, I want a dns name to point to my vps ip address. how to go about this? |
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| 18:11.22 | greycat | Have you registered a domain name? |
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| 18:15.34 | zaff | What is the strongest compression possible? I have tried to compress with xz -9 and -9e but it's still 50MB too large to fit on a DVD. |
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| 18:15.59 | zaff | Is 7zip or something stronger? |
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| 18:16.15 | greycat | What are you trying to put onto a DVD, do you need lossless or lossy.... |
| 18:16.31 | zaff | greycat: lossless compression |
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| 18:16.44 | zaff | greycat: files need to be exact when decompressing |
| 18:17.09 | greycat | and they are "files"... not very helpful. |
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| 18:17.34 | greycat | though I'm not aware of any specific-content lossless algorithms. usually the specific-content algorithms are lossy (audio, speech, video) |
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| 18:18.39 | greycat | (I take that back: there are lossless audio algorithms.) |
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| 18:23.46 | SmashingX2 | is there any program use a circular shared memory buffer to speed up I/O between two piped programs? Like buffer(1) |
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| 18:24.31 | greycat | pipes are implemented in the kernel |
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| 18:24.53 | zaff | greycat: when I mention xz, 7z, etc. it should be clear that I am speaking about lossless generic file compression IMHO, not lossy audio "compression" which cuts out content like mp3 |
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| 18:25.17 | greycat | I won't categorically deny the possibility that you could write your own shared memory alternative to pipes that MIGHT outperform the kernel's pipes, but then you would not be able to call it "piping" any more, and the invocation would be totally different. |
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| 18:25.55 | greycat | zaff: This is a newbie-centric help channel. It's unwise to assume anything. |
| 18:26.28 | greycat | For all I know you could be trying to write an archive of your favorite CD ripped audio files to a DVD, in which case FLAC might outperform xz. |
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| 18:26.58 | zaff | greycat: I said I already tried xz with -9 and -9e :-) |
| 18:27.10 | greycat | But you haven't said *what type of files* these are. |
| 18:27.45 | zaff | greycat: this information is classified :-) but it's not copyrighted material, so no worries |
| 18:28.01 | greycat | I don't care about copyrights. |
| 18:28.16 | zaff | but the channel observers do :-) |
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| 18:28.37 | greycat | The question is whether your TYPE of files might have a specific compression algorithm that outperforms the general-purpose algorithms used in xz et al. |
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| 18:29.26 | greycat | So, it would be useful to know whether these are audio files, video files, static image files, electroencephalograph data streams, source code tarballs, etc. |
| 18:30.39 | zaff | greycat: it's normal mp3s, and I get them to 4650 megabytes with xz -9[e] which is slightly too much for a dvd |
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| 18:31.07 | zaff | greycat: *sorry, I mean 4750 |
| 18:31.41 | zaff | before I thought it fits when it said something below 4.5 but it was in Gibibytes |
| 18:31.43 | greycat | OK. I'm not aware of any algorithms for further reducing the size of an MP3 which is already lossy-compressed. |
| 18:32.22 | zaff | greycat: I think about converting to vorbis, though some ppl might me f***ed up by the move |
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| 18:32.39 | greycat | That degrades the quality, a lot. |
| 18:32.57 | greycat | Vorbis is not designed to transcode MP3s. You'll get artifacts of artifacts. |
| 18:33.28 | greycat | You'd actually get better results just re-encoding the MP3 to another MP3 with a slightly smaller bit rate. |
| 18:33.50 | greycat | (But still, the *best* would be going back to the original uncompressed source.) |
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| 18:38.22 | zaff | greycat: don't you know of any compression algorithm that might compress to below 4.7GB when xz compresses to 4.75GB? (not talking about gibi) |
| 18:38.48 | greycat | Without reducing the bit rate on the MP3s? No. |
| 18:39.05 | timthelion | Is it possible to install debian from debian? I am currently running debian from an external hard-drive (windows is on the internal hard drive) and I was wondering if I can just throw debian onto the internal hard-drive without even having to reboot or create a USB key ;) |
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| 18:39.17 | greycat | timthelion: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 18:39.20 | zaff | greycat: I mean, uncompressed the mp3s take slightly over 5GB |
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| 18:40.28 | greycat | You could pick the one you like the least, and remove it :) |
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| 18:42.05 | timthelion | greycat: thanks, that's interesting, but I think I will stick with the normal installer. debootstrap looks more complex. |
| 18:42.58 | zaff | greycat: if it comes to what I like the least of these files, there would be nothing to burn ;) |
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| 18:58.08 | DammitJim | can one set up a dns entry in /etc/hosts that says server_name2 server_name1 where we want any traffic going to server_name1 to be actually sent to server_name2? |
| 18:58.13 | DammitJim | I've only done this with IP addresses |
| 18:58.19 | greycat | That is not what /etc/hosts does. |
| 18:58.30 | DammitJim | oh ok |
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| 18:58.54 | greycat | If you want to intercept all outgoing traffic, you need to do it at the iptables level. |
| 18:59.04 | DammitJim | my boss wants me to put an entry there on a test system so that this production server is not contacted |
| 18:59.15 | greycat | ... what? |
| 18:59.29 | greycat | Oh. A test *client* system. |
| 18:59.43 | DammitJim | right |
| 18:59.51 | DammitJim | they move stuff from production to this server all the time |
| 19:00.04 | DammitJim | and they run the risk of sending emails to the customers when testing |
| 19:00.23 | greycat | If you are completely positive that the client application will consult /etc/hosts to get the IP address, then you can put appropriate lines in it, but they would be of the form "IP.ADD.RE.SS hostname" not aliases. |
| 19:00.50 | DammitJim | ok, thanks greycat I want to do this the right way |
| 19:01.06 | DammitJim | I eventually want to have these systems on separate subnets where they can't talk to each other |
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| 19:03.15 | woshty | After upgrading a notebook from wheezy all network related stuff is broken in some way, that is seriously annoying. Am I the only one complaining about this or the only one trying to run jessie on a notebook with wlan? |
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| 19:06.17 | acz32 | what do you mean all network related stuff is broken |
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| 19:48.46 | woshty | acz32: it feels that way that I am the only one (as I am apparently using the lxde temperature monitor which has broken color settings); device does not resume, it starts with power off from suspend - tried a script in /etc/pm/sleep.d/ (works some times), dhcpv4 with network manager is broken somehow, not renewing address if lease time is short - I'd guess that most things will work if I would just do a fresh reinstall, delete all settings in my userdir |
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| 19:50.56 | ilcarizo | I boot from Live-CD, i want to use a terminal, so I do Ctrl-Alt-F1, and I get prompt "login:" and "password:" . . . what do I use? "root", "guest", "debian", "linux", all such names and password fail. |
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| 19:53.01 | greycat | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=102937 |
| 19:53.03 | greycat | maybe |
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| 19:55.46 | Crucerio | how to safely remove external external drives in xfce (without root) |
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| 19:56.57 | acz32 | use thunar |
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| 20:02.19 | knivsta | Anyone using Dell Vostro Laptops here? |
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| 20:15.25 | ilcarizo | is there a #channel for Debian Live-CD? |
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| 20:16.17 | greycat | !debian-live |
| 20:16.17 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 20:16.44 | greycat | irc.debian.org is a nickname for irc6.geo.oftc.net |
| 20:16.51 | greycat | So, OFTC not Freenode. |
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| 20:22.51 | dembel | http://www.torrentnado.com/ |
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| 20:25.08 | dhaval2712 | How do I change the default tty? I already have getty pointed to getty@tty1 |
| 20:25.20 | ilcarizo | "irc.debian.org"?? Why don't they just come to freenode.net? |
| 20:25.51 | greycat | The official debian channels moved to OFTC a few years ago for reasons that were not clear to me. |
| 20:26.32 | dutchfish | ilcarizo, its just a cname to the OFTC pool |
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| 20:27.54 | ilcarizo | dutchfish: how do i access their channel from freenode.net then? I'm on freenode.net right now as I write this sentence. |
| 20:28.04 | dutchfish | ilcarizo, well, you already in |
| 20:28.09 | greycat | You need to connect to the other network. |
| 20:28.25 | greycat | Some IRC clients can connect to mutiple servers at the same time. |
| 20:28.44 | ilcarizo | such is my client |
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| 21:34.49 | crazyfrench | has anybody used uwsgi with systemd? |
| 21:34.53 | crazyfrench | it looks like the package doesn't work |
| 21:34.59 | crazyfrench | and has never been tested |
| 21:35.03 | crazyfrench | here's what the documentation says: |
| 21:35.09 | crazyfrench | service uwsgi <command> <confname> <confname> |
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| 21:35.23 | crazyfrench | but now service is calling systemd |
| 21:35.35 | crazyfrench | so service uwsgi start app myapp runs |
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| 21:35.40 | crazyfrench | systemctl start uwsgi |
| 21:35.53 | crazyfrench | and uwsgi crash saying "you didn't hive me the application name!!!" |
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| 21:44.29 | somiaj | crazyfrench: look at systemctl status uwsgi to see what sort of error messages are there. |
| 21:44.47 | short_questioner | Hi :) short question: How can I eject an USB device on Debian? (so that the device doesn't notice that it's connected to the computer anymore) |
| 21:45.02 | crazyfrench | somiaj: year but how do I start a specific application? |
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| 21:45.27 | crazyfrench | somiaj: the systemd unit is not parameterized. I can't do systemctl start uwsgi@myapplication.service |
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| 21:49.05 | short_questioner | nobody knows how to eject an USB drive? |
| 21:50.14 | mtn | short_questioner, most desktops are a right click away from ejecting the usb drive |
| 21:50.20 | ryouma | umount is a partial answer |
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| 21:50.52 | mtn | short_questioner, also: file manager |
| 21:51.13 | allorder | udisks --detach /dev/sdX |
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| 21:51.21 | somiaj | crazyfrench: systemd control things by various unit files. If you have a .service unit file you just have to do 'systemctl start name.service' (and I think many thigns you can just write name and not the .service). |
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| 21:52.32 | short_questioner | allorder: Thanks, but it gives: Cannot find device with major:minor 8:0: Failed to execute program /usr/lib/dbus-1.0/dbus-daemon-launch-helper: Success |
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| 21:57.56 | jhutchins | Pretty sure the eject command works. |
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| 22:01.03 | somiaj | jhutchins: for cdrom or usb? |
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| 22:06.01 | Simplar | Hello. I would like to ask, which concert agencies do you know? I'm gathering some stat data and would like to know people's opinions. Thank you. |
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| 22:10.03 | mxmasster | hello |
| 22:10.27 | mxmasster | i have a dell r410 server with broadcom gige impedded nics |
| 22:10.55 | mxmasster | i just finished an installation of debian 6.0.10 (required for a software package) and the system does not see the network cards after boot |
| 22:11.06 | mxmasster | how do i fix this? |
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| 22:15.14 | jhutchins | mxmasster: use lspci -nn to determine the actual chipset and eight character pciid. |
| 22:15.20 | cwong20121 | is there a way to automatically save my shell history to .bash_history? without me exiting the shell? lets say my session got d/c and i really wanted those commands in my history buffer. |
| 22:15.41 | mxmasster | jhutchins: okay i have that |
| 22:15.57 | jhutchins | You can paste that ONE line here. |
| 22:16.32 | mxmasster | BCM5716 |
| 22:16.41 | jhutchins | The ID? |
| 22:17.08 | Liam` | cwong20121: Add this to your bashrc: http://paste.ml/raw/rayu |
| 22:17.15 | Liam` | Least, thats one way, cwong20121 |
| 22:17.25 | mxmasster | 01:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5716 Gigabit Ethernet [14e4:163b] (rev 20) |
| 22:17.40 | cwong20121 | Liam: interesting trick. thanks. |
| 22:17.55 | jhutchins | , pciid 14e4:163b |
| 22:17.56 | judd | [14e4:163b] is 'NetXtreme II BCM5716 Gigabit Ethernet' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'bnx2' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:163b |
| 22:18.15 | mxmasster | jhutchins: two nics with the same [id] |
| 22:18.26 | mxmasster | 01:00.0 and 01:00.1 |
| 22:18.41 | cwong20121 | Liam: export it right? |
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| 22:19.13 | Liam` | cwong20121: yes, and, one thing to note, if you paste a password into the prompt, you'll need to ensure you remove it form the file as well. |
| 22:19.14 | jhutchins | mxmasster: bnx2 driver |
| 22:19.44 | cwong20121 | Liam`: k. awesome thanks |
| 22:19.58 | Liam` | cwong20121: There are also things like "HISTCONTROL=erasedups" which disallows duplicate entries within the history file, which allows more unique commands to be stored |
| 22:20.05 | mxmasster | modprobe bnx2 gives errors |
| 22:20.19 | cwong20121 | Liam`: ya i have that in my .bash_profile (= |
| 22:20.25 | mxmasster | "Can't load firmware file "bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1a.fw" |
| 22:20.29 | Liam` | cwong20121: Ah :D |
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| 22:21.06 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 22:21.07 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 22:22.25 | mxmasster | dpkg-query -l | grep -i bnx |
| 22:22.38 | mxmasster | shows firmware-bnx2 0.28+squeeze1 |
| 22:23.17 | jhutchins | mxmasster: Interesting. ifconfig -a show the cards? |
| 22:23.19 | somiaj | mxmasster: any reason why you are installing debian 6 as opposed to wheezy or jessie? |
| 22:23.28 | mxmasster | ifconfig -a does not show the cards |
| 22:23.39 | mxmasster | somiaj i have to use this version based on third party software vendor |
| 22:24.12 | somiaj | mxmasster: just courious, so next step is check demsg for any mentrion of the card, or lsmod see if the module is loaded, if it is not manually load it iwith modprobe and then check dmesg again |
| 22:24.35 | mxmasster | somiaj i received this error message when i ran modprobe bnx2 |
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| 22:26.37 | somiaj | mxmasster: yea the firmware it is requesting is not in squeeze. What kernel are you running on the machine? |
| 22:27.07 | mxmasster | 2.6.39.4 |
| 22:27.29 | somiaj | mxmasster: it looks like you may need the backported kernel and thus backported firmware package to get the firmware for that card |
| 22:27.40 | somiaj | mxmasster: umm, where did you get that kernel? That doens't sound like an squeeze kernel. |
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| 22:28.03 | somiaj | mxmasster: that could be the issue the driver in the kernel you are using requires different firmware than the driver in the stock squeeze kernel. |
| 22:28.07 | mxmasster | somiaj this is a packaged third party system |
| 22:28.21 | mxmasster | it's insane |
| 22:28.46 | somiaj | anyways it is requesting firmware that you can find in the squeeze-backports firmware package. Maybe it can use the firmware in that package, maybe not. I don't know since it isn't a debian kernel so unsure what firmware/drivers are available. |
| 22:28.58 | jhutchins | mxmasster: You could probably run it in a VM. |
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| 22:29.33 | jhutchins | mxmasster: What software is it? |
| 22:29.44 | mxmasster | this looks like a kernel from sid? |
| 22:30.15 | mxmasster | how do i find/install the deb for this assuming that's the case? |
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| 22:30.32 | somiaj | mxmasster: no that kernel is not from sid. That kernel is not from debian. |
| 22:30.38 | somiaj | !kernels |
| 22:30.41 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.1-rc8, stable 4.0: 4.0.5, longterm 3.18: 3.18.16, longterm 3.14: 3.14.44, longterm 3.12: 3.12.44, longterm 3.10: 3.10.80, longterm 3.4: 3.4.108, longterm 3.2: 3.2.69, longterm 2.6.32: 2.6.32.67, linux-next: next-20150619 |
| 22:30.51 | mxmasster | somiaj okay - but looking at the specific firmware requested |
| 22:30.52 | mxmasster | https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-bnx2 |
| 22:30.54 | somiaj | ,kernels |
| 22:30.55 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.5-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u2) |
| 22:30.55 | mxmasster | it matches that |
| 22:31.15 | somiaj | mxmasster: the firmware file as I said is in the version in squeeze-backports |
| 22:31.19 | somiaj | mxmasster: don't grab the sid version. |
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| 22:31.38 | mxmasster | somiaj can you give me a link? |
| 22:31.46 | somiaj | mxmasster: those are debian kernels, the kernel you have is something between squeeze at 2.6.32 and wheezy at 3.2, unsure where you got this custom kernel |
| 22:32.04 | somiaj | mxmasster: either use that same page you are on and click on the squeeze-backports repo or add squeeze-backports to your sources.list |
| 22:32.08 | somiaj | !tell mxmasster about squeeze-backports |
| 22:32.21 | mxmasster | somiaj if i don't have a working nic |
| 22:32.29 | mxmasster | i need to grab put on usb disk and copy |
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| 22:32.42 | jhutchins | Of course, if he runs a 3x series kernel, his special software may not like it. |
| 22:32.43 | somiaj | oh yea, then just use that page you are on and download the package for squeeze-backports |
| 22:33.12 | somiaj | yea it is strange he isn't using a debian kernel, so unsure where that kernel is from. but it seems to be wanting firmware that is found in squeeze-backports |
| 22:33.39 | grinchier | anybody use a mempo kernel? |
| 22:33.40 | mxmasster | http://www.sonus.net/en/products/session-border-controllers/virtualized-sbc-swe |
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| 22:58.19 | azmodeus | hi there... What's up? I am trying to figure out how to configure a dns and... Uhmmm, missing some theory I suppose :) |
| 22:58.53 | format_c | azmodeus, then you know where to start.... |
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| 23:02.08 | azmodeus | format_c, well, it is not so really. I am searching a lot. And I cannot find what I need, in this very moment. It is maybe that I cannot really ask google the correct question, because I am missing something. I am trying to configure the forward zone. I should insert my own, says a little how to I am reading, but cannot understand what it is |
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| 23:06.26 | format_c | Thats what I said. Read a book "DNS and BIND" |
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| 23:07.16 | azmodeus | hmmm, ok... read a book! I will =) thanks... |
| 23:08.03 | format_c | azmodeus, really. it helps. Then it becomes logic |
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| 23:09.10 | azmodeus | format_c, I was serious. I didn't think to read a book about dns... I am reading a lot of books, and I didn't charge that idea! I will try to find some good book, and will try to find what I need. |
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| 23:10.14 | jhutchins | azmodeus: try http://tldp.org - there's a pretty clear guide on setting up a caching, forwarding DNS server with BIND. |
| 23:10.32 | jhutchins | azmodeus: There's also dnsmasq, which is a little easier for a small home network. |
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| 23:12.01 | azmodeus | jhutchins, thanks... I will take it a look. I am sure that there are a lot of easier solutions around, thing is that I am on a little task for learning purposes. ^^ |
| 23:12.20 | jhutchins | azmodeus: The O'reilly book is the thing then. |
| 23:12.26 | azmodeus | so, I have selected this one because it was the first one I found and then decided to use it! |
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| 23:13.47 | azmodeus | O'reilly. I will search for this too! |
| 23:14.22 | format_c | This is the one I told you |
| 23:14.38 | format_c | DNS and BIND. It's published by O'Reilly |
| 23:14.43 | azmodeus | oh that was the title! format_c sorry, I didn't understand ahahah... |
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| 23:15.30 | azmodeus | I am starting just now to write/read english, this is also why I am missing a lot of informations maybe... I did not translate your post correctly... Thought the meaning was something like "about DNS and or BIND..." |
| 23:15.47 | jhutchins | azmodeus: http://shop.oreilly.com/product/9780596100575.do |
| 23:15.48 | azmodeus | or some kind of keywords for searching on ... sorry! =) |
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| 23:16.36 | azmodeus | jhutchins, thanks |
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| 23:19.28 | jhutchins | azmodeus: I'm not finding any translations, so I guess it will be part of your learning English project as well. |
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| 23:20.15 | format_c | jhutchins, I've read it in German |
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| 23:20.20 | azmodeus | jhutchins, I do enjoy read in english... yes, it is a part of my learning... And not a problem! =) I know it only be useful :D |
| 23:20.41 | format_c | However the original language is normally the best. |
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| 23:22.53 | azmodeus | I am lucky for now, I understand better this kind of english than the normal one :D is to say I speak a technical english, but once I tried to read a novel... >.< not for me, not at the moment. But I agree with you, I would like to be able to read everything in english |
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| 23:23.14 | azmodeus | for figuring out the original version too... |
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| 23:23.36 | jhutchins | BIND is the Berkely Internet Name Daemon |
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| 23:32.59 | gnudon | I need help with error no such file or directory: scp /home/paul/folder/ peter@server3:/home/mywebsite.com/public_html/images/ |
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| 23:33.59 | format_c | gnudon, you want to copy the contents of the folder /home/paul/folder ? |
| 23:34.09 | format_c | add the -r switch to scp |
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| 23:34.59 | gnudon | format_c, I want to copy from my pc to server using putty |
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| 23:35.27 | format_c | download pscp from the putty website |
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| 23:35.37 | format_c | it's the pendant for scp |
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| 23:36.40 | jimcornette | Hello there I am having issues with resizeFs and gparted. For somereason it thinks that the min size has to be 4 gigs but the space that is filled up on the partition (rootFS) is only 1.2 gigs Any idea on how to fix such a thing ? |
| 23:36.51 | jimcornette | http://i.imgur.com/pAYRTHM.png |
| 23:36.57 | jimcornette | is image of error ^^ |
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| 23:38.15 | jimcornette | Sorry here is both images of gparted on the loop0 http://i.imgur.com/201bhva.png http://i.imgur.com/pAYRTHM.png |
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| 23:39.58 | Feidry | Can anybody help a newbie with a problem I mostly understand but don't know how to fix? |
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| 23:41.40 | jimcornette | what is the issue Feidry |
| 23:41.55 | Feidry | Can I /msg you so we're not spamming chat? |
| 23:42.19 | jimcornette | sure IDC |
| 23:42.28 | jimcornette | not sure if I can help though |
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| 23:42.59 | magyar | hi, I'm trying to setup a bond interface using Network Manager but the connection never gets connected, the arrows keep on spinning for ever, how can i resolve this issue? |
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| 23:44.23 | Feidry | So, it turns out Debian or maybe just Linux in general hates my motherboard. This link http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2020571.html spells it out exactly. achkap's reply works up till the point where you go to make the change permanant. Those files don't exist in debian so far as I can tell. |
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| 23:46.48 | Feidry | I mean, I could just install another network card but why pay for a fix that should be doable for free... |
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| 23:48.19 | azmodeus | see you all ppl, got to go... thanks again for the help =) |
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| 23:56.44 | blackhajime | i have a problem when upgrade to jessie, trying to install mate desktop : parse': alternative libblas.so.3gf can't be slave of libblas.so.3: it is a master alternative |
| 23:56.53 | blackhajime | what the problem ? |
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