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| 00:15.34 | somiaj | antiatom: it supports it I belive, never tried it, but there is a point where you can include extra tools during the installer adn some are for such a setup. Unsure how much you will haev to coax it though. |
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| 00:30.03 | repxl | is localhost.localdomain still used in debian8 as a local FQDN ? i can't see it in hosts there |
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| 00:37.53 | sauvin | Anybody have any thoughts on upgrading from squeeze to jessie? |
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| 00:39.14 | abrotman | sauvin: what are you waiting for?! |
| 00:40.01 | WangDang_ | sauvin: upgrade to wheezy first |
| 00:40.07 | civillian | ^ |
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| 00:41.19 | sauvin | No direct route? |
| 00:41.27 | abrotman | sauvin: not supported |
| 00:41.39 | sauvin | Hrm. Sounds like a six-hour job :\ |
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| 00:48.44 | WangDang_ | sauvin: r u running squeeze or squeeze-lts? |
| 00:48.56 | abrotman | not sure it matters |
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| 00:49.07 | sauvin | What does 'r u' mean? |
| 00:49.13 | WangDang_ | are you |
| 00:49.36 | sauvin | Wasn't aware there was a difference; I thought Squeeze was just Squeeze. |
| 00:50.35 | WangDang_ | Hmm, I can't say for sure, but I thought I went through lts when I pressed a mothballed squeeze box backinto service. I may be wrong |
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| 00:51.57 | abrotman | sauvin: depends, squeeze-lts was optional |
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| 00:53.06 | sauvin | Doesn't really matter, I suppose. Squeeze gotta go. Tired of chromium-browser no longer being supported, iceweasel no longer being supported, etc. |
| 00:53.35 | WangDang_ | sauvin: make sure you read the release notes for each upgrade. There is an order you need to upgrade the kernel in when going to wheezy. |
| 00:54.01 | abrotman | sauvin: eek, desktop? |
| 00:54.03 | sauvin | I plan in reading quite a bit before clicking on anything. |
| 00:54.08 | sauvin | abrotman, yea. |
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| 01:06.23 | phix | rexwin__: pip uninstall pip module |
| 01:07.08 | phix | rexwin__: pip --help or man pip for more information |
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| 02:13.36 | A1BaTrOs | hi |
| 02:14.06 | adhoc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:14.17 | A1BaTrOs | is it possible that a mysql service installed recently to have a limited ammount of hdd space reserved and maybe can be later enlarged? |
| 02:14.46 | abrotman | you can create an LVM partition just for MySQL storage? |
| 02:15.16 | A1BaTrOs | not necesarely |
| 02:15.22 | A1BaTrOs | like i'm not using lvm at all |
| 02:16.04 | A1BaTrOs | but is it limited to a certain amount of space at install? |
| 02:16.36 | A1BaTrOs | i was importing/exporting some databases early today and somewhere mentioned 2/12mb |
| 02:16.53 | A1BaTrOs | dunno if it was especially mentioned abt the mysql service |
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| 02:20.02 | adhoc | is there a way to unmark a package for upgrade ? |
| 02:20.53 | adhoc | i have mariadb5.3 intalled and have tried upgrade to 5.5, but it failed to install becuase dependencies of libc6 |
| 02:21.04 | A1BaTrOs | ok well i might be stupid as fuck |
| 02:21.05 | adhoc | so now i can't install any packages |
| 02:21.19 | A1BaTrOs | cuz i followed what dpkg said and fucked up mysql |
| 02:21.20 | A1BaTrOs | To help reduce the memory usage of MySQL server, disable "innodb" tables (this can save around 100MB memory): echo -e "[mysqld]\nskip-innodb" > /etc/mysql/conf.d/skip-innodb.cnf ; invoke-rc.d mysql restart |
| 02:21.38 | A1BaTrOs | how can i undo this? |
| 02:22.02 | adhoc | A1BaTrOs: you mention memory in one area and disk space in another ? |
| 02:22.17 | A1BaTrOs | really doesn't matter at this point |
| 02:22.29 | A1BaTrOs | something in that command just f-ed mysql and i can' t login |
| 02:22.37 | louisls | hi, im a long time user of debian, and for 10years i used scp in command line, i dont trust ftp, but now i have to manage big project, anyone know a good and simple visual tools for do it |
| 02:23.06 | p0wersploit | filezilla? |
| 02:23.17 | civillian | WinSCP? |
| 02:23.25 | karlpinc | louisls: fireftp plugin for firefox? |
| 02:23.26 | A1BaTrOs | http://paste.debian.net/250780/ |
| 02:23.33 | A1BaTrOs | my console looked like this |
| 02:23.40 | louisls | winscp w t ... |
| 02:23.50 | louisls | man, i dont use craps sorry |
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| 02:24.09 | CygniX | ssh+rsync |
| 02:24.25 | louisls | p0wersploit: filezilla manage ssh file transfert |
| 02:24.30 | louisls | thx |
| 02:24.43 | p0wersploit | I don't know |
| 02:24.48 | p0wersploit | I'm sure there's a way to |
| 02:25.01 | p0wersploit | I used it a long time ago not extensively or for long |
| 02:25.10 | p0wersploit | I just know it's a GUI FTP server |
| 02:25.20 | CygniX | I just gave the solution, ssh+rsync |
| 02:25.20 | louisls | that's work |
| 02:25.24 | CygniX | you can't beat that |
| 02:26.01 | louisls | CygniX: ahah good question |
| 02:26.12 | p0wersploit | if you don't want to do work you are going to end up with something with crap security no matter what |
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| 02:27.16 | abrotman | louisls: yes, filezilla can do scp |
| 02:27.21 | louisls | CygniX: thx |
| 02:28.16 | abrotman | is pretty sure you shouldn't be managing a "large" project with filezilla .. but hopefully with some VCS |
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| 02:28.46 | CygniX | doesn't filezilla store password in plain txt? |
| 02:29.07 | abrotman | I think it's an option to do it either way, but I haven't used it in some time |
| 02:29.13 | louisls | i prefer the rsync solution for the moment |
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| 02:31.02 | CygniX | rsync -avz -e "ssh -p 2222" ~/dir_or_file user@remotehost:~/ |
| 02:31.30 | louisls | little script with chipper and everything is automated, no longer worry |
| 02:31.41 | louisls | yeah CygniX i read man |
| 02:32.56 | louisls | thx a lot |
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| 03:38.46 | bourbon | hi - I'm trying to install gcc-4.9, but I get this odd error: gcc-4.9-base : Breaks: gcc-4.7-base (< 4.7.3) but 4.7.2-5 is to be installed |
| 03:39.00 | bourbon | does this mean that 4.7.2-5 is actually a higher version than 4.7.3? |
| 03:40.14 | karlpinc | bourbon: Are you trying to install non-debian packages? (This is not a good idea.) |
| 03:40.24 | bourbon | let me check my active repos |
| 03:40.28 | bourbon | but I think that one's from unstable |
| 03:40.41 | karlpinc | !frankendebian |
| 03:40.42 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 03:40.51 | bourbon | no |
| 03:40.52 | bourbon | wheezy |
| 03:41.12 | karlpinc | bourbon: The right solution is to get something from backports. |
| 03:41.22 | bourbon | ok |
| 03:41.30 | karlpinc | (The backports repo) If not that then backport yourself. See the <ssb> fctoid. |
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| 03:44.45 | zykotick9 | karlpinc: i'm just curious, but wouldn't the fact that it's wheezy make a difference for <ssb>? |
| 03:45.02 | bourbon | so, is 4.7.2-5 actually a higher version than 4.7.3? |
| 03:45.05 | somiaj | zykotick9: not really, though it would be suggested you backport stuff from jessie and not sid. |
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| 03:45.11 | karlpinc | zykotick9: I suppose it makes it harder to backport from sid. |
| 03:45.12 | somiaj | zykotick9: so just change sid to jessie and it would work. |
| 03:45.31 | zykotick9 | somiaj: thanks. |
| 03:45.39 | zykotick9 | ^ just curious |
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| 03:46.02 | karlpinc | bourbon: No, but it might have even newer fixes put into it by the security team. |
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| 03:47.06 | optraz | hi guys, latest debian sid, make skype removed and cannot install later |
| 03:47.08 | optraz | any workaround? |
| 03:47.30 | somiaj | bourbon: 4.7.2 is the version compared to 4.7.3 (so the second is greater), the -5 is just debian patches, bug fixes, security fixes, and so forth. You can find out what they mean in the changelog |
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| 03:47.55 | somiaj | optraz: you will have to track down what packages are causing the conflict and manually fix it. |
| 03:48.28 | somiaj | optraz: or see which package in your upgrade had a conflict with skype or any of its dependencies so it the solution was to remove it. |
| 03:49.28 | bourbon | so why does apt-get think that 4.7.2-5 does not pass the (<4.7.3) constraint |
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| 03:52.43 | optraz | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/qCcrNdqe |
| 03:53.39 | optraz | somiaj: tried to install the dependency via apt, but just too much dependencies require... :( any easy workaround? i need skype for work |
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| 03:59.09 | somiaj | optraz: you need to track down which dependency is the actual issue, but after you run the dpkg -i command, apt-get -f install should get all the depends. If it does not then you do have to manually track down which one is causing the issue. |
| 03:59.30 | somiaj | and you can do that by installing the dpendencies manually until you get to the one that causes the conflict |
| 03:59.57 | optraz | somiaj |
| 03:59.59 | optraz | i did... |
| 04:00.05 | optraz | all the dependency of i386 |
| 04:00.07 | optraz | but it does not work |
| 04:00.11 | optraz | want pastebin? |
| 04:01.15 | optraz | i thought dependencies issue supposed to be handle by package manager :-s |
| 04:02.08 | somiaj | optraz: do you not have multiarch enabled? |
| 04:02.12 | somiaj | well you must, |
| 04:02.17 | somiaj | optraz: paste the output of apt-cache policy |
| 04:02.44 | optraz | okay, 1 moment |
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| 04:04.22 | optraz | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/FyJUCJuv |
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| 04:05.14 | somiaj | optraz: yea I'm not gonna try to track down your issue, to many things could be the issue. |
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| 04:05.36 | optraz | somiaj: that's fine, how to quickly get skype install? |
| 04:05.37 | somiaj | optraz: you need to try to install the dependencies for skype one at a time until you find the package that is causing the conflict |
| 04:05.40 | optraz | any workaround will do |
| 04:05.49 | somiaj | optraz: run a vm |
| 04:06.14 | somiaj | optraz: might be able ot put it in a chroot, but then you'll have to play around to get it to work with schroot and run in your current xserver |
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| 04:06.34 | somiaj | optraz: or you could as I suggested track down the packages that are causing the conflict and see if they can be fixed (usually they can once you know which package it is) |
| 04:07.06 | somiaj | optraz: just with the amount of repos, I have no clue what you have installed, but this is one of the things that can happen when mixing jessie and sid. |
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| 04:08.00 | somiaj | optraz: but it is fixable if you could track down which package is causing the conflict, just takes paitence and start looking at the actual versions you have installed on your system. |
| 04:08.33 | optraz | somiaj: i did... install one by one, but see the pastebin http://pastebin.com/ujLgrZuS that solving one dependency chain to like 20-30 pcakges more... that's nightmares |
| 04:09.17 | optraz | somiaj: how to fix the jessie/sid? |
| 04:09.21 | optraz | maybe start from there |
| 04:09.32 | somiaj | optraz: and there is your issue, libglib2.0-0:i386 is not being found, figure out why. |
| 04:10.22 | somiaj | optraz: but I don't want to support mixing. My suggestion is run jessie unless you want to deal with stuff like this running sid. and if you are going to run sid you shouldn't mix it with jessie or any other debian release (experimential is okay but that is a different thing) |
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| 04:12.12 | somiaj | optraz: maybe the output of apt-cache policy libglib2.0-0:i386 could help. That packge looks to be the one causing the trouble. |
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| 04:13.37 | optraz | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/yQUCNkkz |
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| 04:14.24 | somiaj | optraz: apt-get install libglib2.0-0:i386 should work |
| 04:14.35 | somiaj | optraz: though I think your current install is broken, run apt-get -f install |
| 04:15.04 | somiaj | optraz: and fix all the broken packages you have installed, unsure if you can use apt or not, but yea you ahve a mess in my mind. (: |
| 04:15.27 | optraz | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/nNcdM14r |
| 04:16.16 | optraz | tried apt-get -f install && apt-get install libglib2.0-0:i386 dont work neither |
| 04:16.35 | somiaj | optraz: the last line says you have held packages, you have lots and lots of depends, if apt-get -f install or aptitude -f install is not able to fix y our install you have a mess to fix. |
| 04:17.24 | somiaj | and really I don't want to parse though the mess I see in your pastes, standard advise is don't mix things and be careful with third party repos (just make sure they are made for the debian version you are running) |
| 04:17.45 | somiaj | but it could be one or two pcakges causing the whole problem, and if you can track them down and install them you may fix it. |
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| 04:20.21 | optraz | somiaj: too much problme and time spent for this |
| 04:20.28 | optraz | right now is my wsorking time alreayd... |
| 04:20.33 | optraz | i dotn have that pleasure to fix it :( |
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| 04:20.56 | optraz | is there a way to connect to skype network using pdigin? |
| 04:21.00 | somiaj | optraz: reinstall jessie, keep on stable + backports, don't worry about such things. |
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| 04:21.32 | somiaj | optraz: no, you need to use skype. a vm may be a thing to get working but again if apt/dpkg have broken issues installing the vm software may not work. |
| 04:21.36 | optraz | somiaj: no, i dont want jessie, i want sid, because in the past, the browser is too old for a lot sites. |
| 04:22.12 | p0wersploit | huh? |
| 04:22.17 | p0wersploit | too old for "a lot" of sites? |
| 04:22.22 | p0wersploit | I don't understand |
| 04:22.26 | somiaj | optraz: hasn't been that way for a long time. Jessie uses the ESR version of firefox or a fairly recent version of chromium, and security fixes are now brought in from upstream though the esr firefox version or a newer version of chromium. |
| 04:22.27 | optraz | yes, the browser in jessie |
| 04:22.41 | p0wersploit | What site is it too old for >_> |
| 04:22.56 | somiaj | p0wersploit: maybe years and years ago when debian use to freeze the browsers they got a little outdated, but hasn't been that way since sometime during the squeeze release. |
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| 04:23.15 | p0wersploit | Oh, was gonna say |
| 04:23.21 | p0wersploit | I have never encountered such a thing |
| 04:23.27 | p0wersploit | That was before my time |
| 04:23.36 | optraz | somiaj: using vm? what vm? do i need to transfer my skype setitng/chat to the vm and back again? |
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| 04:24.27 | inua | hi |
| 04:24.32 | somiaj | p0wersploit: debian stable policy was to freeze software and only backport security fixes to them, and this was when browsers were developing really quickly. This is also part of the reason mozilla won't let debian use their trademark and we call things icewesel. |
| 04:24.46 | p0wersploit | Gotcha |
| 04:25.20 | somiaj | p0wersploit: this policy changed during squeeze as there is just better support for using more current version, so firefox esr and a fairly recent chromium are provided via security (though they only get updated when exploits are found) |
| 04:25.31 | inua | Is possible use a winmodem in debian by asterisk? |
| 04:25.48 | inua | dlink 5621S |
| 04:25.48 | p0wersploit | Yeah I started using Linux with Wheezy |
| 04:26.02 | optraz | somiaj: using vm? what vm? do i need to transfer my skype setitng/chat to the vm and back again? |
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| 04:27.04 | somiaj | optraz: just a suggestion. I think you have to fix your install or reinstall as if apt-get -f install is not saying your system is fine, you won't be able to install anything. |
| 04:27.07 | Equa | optraz: vmware or virtualbox |
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| 04:28.07 | p0wersploit | if it's a vm why DON'T you reinstall :P |
| 04:28.13 | p0wersploit | That would be a HUGE pain for a vm |
| 04:28.44 | optraz | somiaj: fine, let's forget about skype probelm, where do i fix the apt policy file? |
| 04:28.47 | optraz | where/what |
| 04:28.48 | p0wersploit | or you weren't saying the install was a vm |
| 04:28.54 | p0wersploit | probably confusing what's going on |
| 04:28.57 | somiaj | p0wersploit: no I'm saying if he needs skype right away and has a vm he can install it there and fix his install later. |
| 04:29.05 | p0wersploit | Okay |
| 04:29.11 | somiaj | optraz: figure out what the confict is, that last error about hold, but you have a |
| 04:29.14 | somiaj | !frakendebian |
| 04:29.44 | somiaj | !frankendebian |
| 04:29.44 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 04:32.36 | optraz | very dissapointed really |
| 04:32.42 | optraz | advocate for linux |
| 04:32.54 | optraz | but this shit happen everytime upgrade during weekend |
| 04:33.18 | optraz | how can you tell the end user do not use 3rd party software? |
| 04:33.23 | optraz | we are all interconnected... |
| 04:33.28 | p0wersploit | The only time I use unstable repos is for the ONE package I can't get otherwise |
| 04:33.36 | p0wersploit | so that I avoid that happening to me all the time |
| 04:34.09 | somiaj | optraz: the issue is the repos and stuff you are mixing. There is a conflict in mxiing packages from various release. Also sid sometimes breaks, if you want a system that works good and won't have these issues run jessie and then get backports for stuff you may need. |
| 04:35.04 | somiaj | p0wersploit: that is not good either. You may only need one package from sid, but that one package from sid needs some core libaries (libc6 is a major one) from sid to. Now you have a core libary on your system from sid and this could cause unforseen issues with the rest of your system that is expecting a libary from jessie |
| 04:35.17 | somiaj | p0wersploit: backports are the prefered way to get the few newer things you need. |
| 04:35.23 | optraz | somiaj: i dont want everytime debian upgrade, i have to change the /etc/apt setting from jessie to some other funny characters.. i WANT to use .. and i want to upgrade with no hassle :) |
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| 04:36.11 | optraz | somiaj: i was using testing back then... until the iceweasael dont work for some sites...and i ask dpkg here, suggested to use esr etc etc... and this is what end up now |
| 04:36.14 | somiaj | optraz: then you use jessie stable. And when stretch is released in a few years, you make the change and upgrade then. Or you deal with stuff like this when it breaks. |
| 04:36.23 | optraz | somiaj: im not blaming dpkg or what.. im just telling my frustration here |
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| 04:37.01 | somiaj | optraz: I understand and this is a common mess people create forthemselves because they don't think about any issues that may arise if they start grabing softawre from here and from there. |
| 04:37.06 | p0wersploit | You're free to use a yum package manager system :P |
| 04:37.18 | p0wersploit | When dependencies will break it says so and doesn't install |
| 04:37.29 | optraz | somiaj: gonna email my boss saying skype broken, already wasted 3hour just to try to fix |
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| 04:37.41 | p0wersploit | and using third party repos with yum is easy |
| 04:37.42 | somiaj | optraz: I use sid, and run updates only when I have the time to fix any of the issues that may happen. For the most part sid works, but gotta be able to fix it when it doens't |
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| 04:37.54 | somiaj | optraz: but I don't mix lots of thrid party sources and jessie sources. (: |
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| 04:38.17 | somiaj | p0wersploit: apt does too for the most part. But I will admit yum has some flashback options apt doesn't have. |
| 04:38.58 | somiaj | p0wersploit: also apt-listbugs is a good thing to have installed and apt-listchanges for those who want to know every change. (: |
| 04:38.59 | p0wersploit | it seems like with yum it's a lot easier to get a package without needing a thousand libs that conflict |
| 04:39.05 | p0wersploit | and third party repos is easy |
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| 04:39.21 | p0wersploit | I never have issues with apt |
| 04:39.28 | p0wersploit | But I'm careful |
| 04:39.45 | somiaj | p0wersploit: apt works just as well. But there aren't that many quality third party repos made for debian, but decent repos work just fine. (: |
| 04:39.47 | optraz | somiaj: i will remove all the jessie from /etc/apt, but should i replace jessie to sid? |
| 04:39.55 | p0wersploit | Right :) |
| 04:39.56 | somiaj | optraz: if you want to run sid yes. |
| 04:39.59 | Mikko- | correct |
| 04:40.07 | optraz | somiaj: yes, i want sid |
| 04:40.18 | optraz | okay, i will do now |
| 04:40.27 | somiaj | optraz: yea don't mix jessie sources. I would leave experiemntial out too that is only one more thing to get you in trobule. |
| 04:41.07 | somiaj | optraz: and as for al the third party stuff, just have to be careful, since sid is a moving target it is hard to keep good repos for it. Some stuff works fine, others don't |
| 04:41.58 | Mikko- | optraz: if you want to install skype, download the package for debian from the skype website |
| 04:42.13 | optraz | , download the package for debian from the skype website // i did, all these while |
| 04:42.25 | somiaj | Mikko-: his issue is he has a bad conflict on his system, and skype was just a side effect of this |
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| 04:42.44 | somiaj | Mikko-: I think he has a package held or some strange conflict that is causing apt to just give up |
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| 04:47.31 | p0wersploit | Ubuntu is the worst thing I've ever seen with giving unnecessary dependencies...I don't know why people like it |
| 04:47.42 | p0wersploit | the most unrelated things have to be together |
| 04:48.03 | optraz | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/mhg1kQ4w can you check if htis is okay? i have ran apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 04:52.02 | optraz | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/mhg1kQ4w can you check if htis is okay? i have ran apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 05:15.46 | optraz | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/mhg1kQ4w can you check if htis is okay? i have ran apt-get clean && apt-get autoclean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
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| 05:17.18 | Mikko- | optraz: does everything work now? |
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| 05:22.01 | optraz | Mikko-: i would really like to but in reality , no |
| 05:22.14 | optraz | Mikko-: although all sid now and upgraded all pacakges and reboooted |
| 05:22.24 | optraz | Mikko-: skype still cannot be install |
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| 05:24.01 | optraz | Mikko-: do you know what are the ways now? |
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| 05:24.32 | Mikko- | can you paste the errors? |
| 05:25.09 | optraz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.13 | optraz | it is in the pastebin |
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| 05:26.34 | optraz | Mikko-: http://pastebin.com/qCcrNdqe |
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| 05:27.50 | Mikko- | I have the same problem when I try to install skype :p |
| 05:28.01 | p0wersploit | http://superuser.com/questions/696174/cant-install-skype-on-debian-through-dpkg |
| 05:28.28 | p0wersploit | that's old though |
| 05:28.29 | p0wersploit | wheezy |
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| 05:28.43 | somiaj | optraz: again if apt-get -f install doesn't install the missing deps, you have to track down which package on your system is causing the conflict. |
| 05:29.10 | optraz | :( |
| 05:29.12 | optraz | ok |
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| 05:30.15 | rozie | do you have i386 architecture added? |
| 05:30.18 | p0wersploit | did you install those libraries |
| 05:30.23 | p0wersploit | with :i386 at the end |
| 05:30.24 | optraz | rozie: yes |
| 05:30.29 | optraz | p0wersploit: yes |
| 05:30.39 | p0wersploit | like when you installed |
| 05:30.45 | p0wersploit | you installed misclib:i386 |
| 05:30.50 | p0wersploit | instead of misclib |
| 05:31.04 | p0wersploit | just because you add multi |
| 05:31.07 | rozie | optraz: can you show? |
| 05:31.10 | p0wersploit | you still usually have to do that |
| 05:31.18 | p0wersploit | to get the i386 version |
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| 05:31.25 | optraz | p0wersploit: it is in the pastebin above |
| 05:31.28 | optraz | rozie: show what |
| 05:31.41 | somiaj | rozie: it wouldn't have let him run the dpkg -i command on a package if multiarch wasn't enabled |
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| 05:31.51 | Mikko- | adding architecture and updating sources seems to work so far |
| 05:32.26 | p0wersploit | no... |
| 05:32.29 | p0wersploit | in that pastebin |
| 05:32.32 | p0wersploit | it says you need them |
| 05:32.35 | somiaj | optraz: again you have a conflict on your system. Since you were mixing so many repos I don't want ot guess what this is, I do recall an error about a package you have on hold. Might want to fix that |
| 05:32.42 | Mikko- | turned in to dependency hell |
| 05:32.47 | somiaj | optraz: but cleaning up your sources is only the first step. You still need to track down this conflict and fix it. |
| 05:32.57 | p0wersploit | did you apt-get install libqt4-dbusLi385 |
| 05:33.00 | p0wersploit | for example |
| 05:33.01 | p0wersploit | no L |
| 05:33.05 | p0wersploit | replace with : |
| 05:33.22 | rozie | optraz: that you have multilib enabled |
| 05:33.29 | p0wersploit | you do manually have to install i386 libs |
| 05:33.33 | p0wersploit | not just enable multi |
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| 05:33.44 | rozie | p0wersploit: it should be intalled automagically |
| 05:33.50 | p0wersploit | no |
| 05:33.52 | p0wersploit | it isn't |
| 05:34.05 | p0wersploit | My friend had same issue with Steam |
| 05:34.16 | somiaj | p0wersploit: it depends on 'how' you installed said package. |
| 05:34.41 | somiaj | p0wersploit: if you use apt it will pull them from the sources just fine, if you use dpkg you will have to fetch any missing libs but apt can usually fix it if you don't have some conflict (: |
| 05:34.42 | p0wersploit | My first guess is that's what he needs to do |
| 05:34.45 | rozie | won't argue, haven't play with this on Jessie, but on Wheezy I'm pretty sure that it was installed automatically |
| 05:34.49 | rozie | at least with wajig |
| 05:34.49 | p0wersploit | is manually get the i386 libs |
| 05:34.58 | optraz | somiaj: i corrected jessie to sid in /etc/apt cofiguration, im not sure what should i do next? |
| 05:35.02 | rozie | optraz: apt-get install wajig |
| 05:35.12 | rozie | wajig install skype[...].deb |
| 05:35.12 | p0wersploit | Seriously dude try it |
| 05:35.14 | optraz | rozie: why would i need wajib for/ |
| 05:35.15 | somiaj | optraz: you have conflicting/held packages on your system. Hunt them down |
| 05:35.17 | p0wersploit | it isn't going to hurt |
| 05:35.30 | optraz | somiaj: what/where should i hunt the,? |
| 05:35.44 | somiaj | optraz: if you have to ask you should really be running jessie andnot dealing with tehse problems. (: |
| 05:35.52 | Mikko- | no luck on installing skype on my end :S |
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| 05:36.10 | somiaj | optraz: again you just keep following the dependency tree until you find out why packagfes are not being installed |
| 05:36.15 | p0wersploit | Because you are ignoring me :P and I am sure you could have it if you tried that |
| 05:36.23 | p0wersploit | Unless you already have |
| 05:36.28 | somiaj | Mikko-: did you dpkg -i the deb from skype.com? |
| 05:36.39 | Mikko- | somiaj: yes, I'm trying that |
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| 05:36.56 | optraz | Mikko-: no shit :) |
| 05:37.00 | somiaj | Mikko-: then run apt-get -f install, works fine in jessie. sid may have an issue but usually works fine |
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| 05:37.05 | rozie | OK, let me check on unstable... |
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| 05:37.49 | p0wersploit | Yeah google confirms it...you manually install the *:i386 packages |
| 05:37.56 | optraz | rozie: installed wajig |
| 05:38.18 | optraz | wajig install skype dont work netiehr |
| 05:38.40 | optraz | same error as dpkg |
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| 05:39.26 | p0wersploit | haha you're brilliant. |
| 05:39.37 | p0wersploit | Have fun trying different package managers :P |
| 05:39.41 | p0wersploit | And having no luck |
| 05:39.56 | optraz | p0wersploit: well, aint funny |
| 05:40.14 | somiaj | I will install skype in a sid chroot just to show ya it works. (: |
| 05:40.31 | optraz | somiaj: much appreciated |
| 05:40.38 | optraz | somiaj: thank you |
| 05:40.41 | somiaj | optraz: but the issue is a conflict on your system I'm almost positive. |
| 05:40.49 | somiaj | optraz: and with your expreience with debian you should really run jessie |
| 05:40.52 | p0wersploit | apt-get install libqtwebkit4:i386 and so on manually |
| 05:40.55 | optraz | somiaj: i guess so too buti dont know where to solve them |
| 05:41.02 | somiaj | optraz: and then add some backports to it, it will keep you from having these issues. |
| 05:41.11 | optraz | p0wersploit: i tried that, it lead to more dependency problem, i pasted pastebin above |
| 05:41.12 | rozie | somiaj: wajig will install missing libs, while pure dpkg not, so it's not playing with package managers |
| 05:41.17 | somiaj | optraz: I would strongly suggest a reinstall and then have a stable system, so you don't have to deal with this. (: |
| 05:41.23 | Mikko- | somiaj: ran the apt command, got this error afterwards http://pastebin.com/c3sgGmBZ |
| 05:41.32 | somiaj | rozie: useually apt will fix issues |
| 05:41.49 | optraz | somiaj: i have been using debian for more htan 10 years, i dotn want to reinstall unless disk crash |
| 05:42.02 | somiaj | Mikko-: what command gave that output. |
| 05:42.15 | rozie | and it works |
| 05:42.17 | Mikko- | apt-get -f install |
| 05:42.22 | rozie | https://paste.debian.net/251310/ full output on sid |
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| 05:42.52 | somiaj | could be a recent change in sid. I'll check, and then pull up my jessie vm and install it quickly> (: |
| 05:43.08 | rozie | (yep, not clean install, had to install twice and there are some libs from 3rd party repo, but this is just my system) |
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| 05:43.40 | optraz | rozie: can you tell me how u get it to work? |
| 05:44.15 | rozie | optraz: let me rephrase what you said "it's in the pastebin" |
| 05:44.32 | rozie | somiaj: he didn't use apt, just dpkg |
| 05:44.58 | rozie | dpkg won't install missing libs |
| 05:44.58 | dpkg | rozie: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 05:45.03 | optraz | rozie: yes, i read your pastebin output, but it does not work here |
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| 05:45.20 | somiaj | rozie: I know, but apt under sane sources can fix missing libs from a failed dpkg install |
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| 05:45.46 | ShrewdSpirit | Good morning. I've installed AMD drivers and ran aticonfig --initial but after a reboot I cannot see my cursor! |
| 05:46.03 | rozie | ShrewdSpirit: have the same problem! :-) |
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| 05:46.26 | rozie | ShrewdSpirit: I found potential solution, but didn't try it yet |
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| 05:46.55 | ShrewdSpirit | rozie, Oh, how can it be fixed? |
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| 05:47.04 | rozie | ShrewdSpirit: take a look on https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762132 |
| 05:47.05 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/762132 in fglrx-driver (open, upstream): «fglrx-driver: Update to 1:14.6~ga14.201-1 amd64: Mouse cursor gone»; severity: important; opened: 2014-09-18; last modified: 2015-05-18. |
| 05:47.36 | optraz | rozie: https://paste.debian.net/251376/ |
| 05:47.46 | optraz | rozie: i tried, using the command you use in your pastebin |
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| 05:48.20 | rozie | ShrewdSpirit: > fglrx device in screen : aticonfig --px-igpu [Mouse: yes Acceleration: yes] !! especially that part |
| 05:48.58 | rozie | ShrewdSpirit: but as I said - haven't play with this yet. let me know if/how you solved please |
| 05:48.59 | capri- | i cant find pacemaker in debian 8 - which cluster software is the default one for jessie? |
| 05:49.03 | ShrewdSpirit | rozie, Damn! Its so hard to work with hidden mouse! |
| 05:49.29 | rozie | ShrewdSpirit: switch to Intel (I guess you have 2 GPU?) |
| 05:49.39 | p0wersploit | might want to check debian wiki page on skype |
| 05:49.41 | optraz | somiaj: did you get skype to install ? |
| 05:49.42 | p0wersploit | faqs |
| 05:49.56 | ShrewdSpirit | rozie, Yes, its a laptop and has Intel HD |
| 05:50.08 | somiaj | optraz: in my jessie vm the package made for jessie installed....still installing a sid chroot |
| 05:50.14 | ShrewdSpirit | rozie, How to switch to Intel? :o |
| 05:50.32 | rozie | ShrewdSpirit: I just remove xorg.conf and Intel works then ;) |
| 05:50.32 | somiaj | optraz: and I installed it just like I said, dpkg -i skype*deb, then apt-get -f isntall, installed all the missing libs just fine |
| 05:50.51 | optraz | somiaj: :( then it is my system broken but i dont know where to even begin to fix it |
| 05:51.01 | Mikko- | this skype problem looks like bit rot to me, those qt libs it requires are pretty old |
| 05:51.06 | ShrewdSpirit | rozie, Okay, I'll be right back! |
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| 05:51.16 | somiaj | Mikko-: yea it could be an issue with the kde version changing in sid |
| 05:51.23 | optraz | Mikko-: yea, i get this skype probelm after yesterday debian system upgrade |
| 05:51.41 | optraz | somiaj: using gnome if it matter |
| 05:52.02 | optraz | somiaj: does it too much to ask for where to begin to fix the broken debian system? |
| 05:52.05 | somiaj | Mikko-: oh wait that skype package is made for wheezy, yea it does depend on old libs, but it works just fine in jessie |
| 05:52.18 | somiaj | optraz: you are running sid, this would work just fine in jessie |
| 05:52.41 | somiaj | optraz: first sid changes things break, second sid doens't support skype, if skype's dependencies can no longer be satisified in sid you have to get skype to make a new package. |
| 05:53.13 | optraz | somiaj: email skype to request them to upgrade their package? |
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| 05:53.53 | somiaj | optraz: you could try. I am not going to, I don't use skype. I used it a few times but when they made me install pulseaudio I removed skype. |
| 05:54.18 | at0m|c | skype is so win98 |
| 05:54.22 | p0wersploit | Debian doesn't want it |
| 05:54.25 | p0wersploit | it isn't skype |
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| 05:54.42 | p0wersploit | https://wiki.debian.org/skype |
| 05:54.50 | p0wersploit | "Skype is non-free, proprietary, closed source software, owned by a corporation and not supported by Debian. " |
| 05:54.52 | optraz | p0wersploit: yea, i use that url to install skyp;e |
| 05:55.03 | p0wersploit | So emailing skype won't do anything :P |
| 05:55.24 | optraz | well, i think all are interconnected, you cannot stay alone.. |
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| 05:55.42 | optraz | nvm, ijuse use the web version for now https://web.skype.com/en/ |
| 05:55.43 | p0wersploit | I guess you could ask them to go open source...good luck with that |
| 05:55.45 | optraz | i will email skype |
| 05:55.52 | optraz | for the new libqt version 5.0 |
| 05:55.55 | somiaj | optraz: fresh sid chroot. dpkg -i skype.deb gave me the standard depends error. apt-get -f install is now installing all the missing libaries, I'll let ya know when it is done. |
| 05:55.58 | p0wersploit | But updated package? Not what you'd ask for |
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| 05:57.26 | shrewdspirit | rozie, Well, I removed xorg.conf, rebooted and ran aticonfig --initial again, rebooted and now I have cursor! |
| 05:57.50 | Mikko- | there's a web version for skype, seriously? |
| 05:57.51 | shrewdspirit | rozie, But stiil I'm not sure if xorg is using AMD |
| 05:57.54 | somiaj | shrewdspirit: those make such terrible xorg.conf files. You need like 3 lines in your xorg.conf file just setting the display driver to radeon. |
| 05:58.08 | somiaj | shrewdspirit: is this on debian jessie? do you run gnome? |
| 05:58.36 | optraz | somiaj: did it install finish? if it work in sid chroot, it should work here in my sid system too? |
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| 05:59.18 | somiaj | optraz: still waiting for it to comfigure packages. This was a fresh chroot so it had to install lots of libs and most of xorg. |
| 05:59.22 | p0wersploit | I may have missed this, why do you need skype and not an open soruce alternative |
| 05:59.26 | p0wersploit | what feature in it... |
| 05:59.43 | somiaj | p0wersploit: usually decisions like this are made by those who you choose to speak with. |
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| 05:59.55 | shrewdspirit | somiaj, Yes, its Debian Jessie with XFCE |
| 05:59.59 | somiaj | p0wersploit: i.e. if you are the only person not running windows and skype, hard to convince everyone else to meet your demands. (: |
| 06:00.21 | p0wersploit | I don't see why the need for skype, I missed something |
| 06:00.40 | somiaj | shrewdspirit: okay just making sure it wasn't gnome. Anyways you just need the 3-4 lines in Section Display\n Driver="fglrx"\nEndSection (it might need a StartSection) anyways somethign lik that |
| 06:00.42 | themill | If you're only talking to yourself then you get to unilaterally choose the software |
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| 06:01.20 | at0m|c | themill: i can do that in me head |
| 06:01.47 | at0m|c | but yea if mom and dad were in .au and only had skype... /shiver |
| 06:02.02 | Mikko- | my grandma uses skype |
| 06:02.30 | p0wersploit | I have a full open source hardware and software system outside of my bios :P I'm not sure what someone would need skype for specifically |
| 06:03.09 | chalcedony | so, skype doesn't work on Jesse? |
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| 06:03.21 | somiaj | chalcedony: it works. |
| 06:03.27 | somiaj | chalcedony: I just installed it in a chroot just fine |
| 06:03.57 | shrewdspirit | somiaj, This is my xorg.conf generated by aticonfig http://dpaste.com/28DGF3F |
| 06:04.04 | p0wersploit | Well..I suppose my Windows vm isn't open source xD |
| 06:04.20 | somiaj | chalcedony: ii skype 4.3.0.37-1 i386, a fresh install in an jessie vm. |
| 06:04.36 | chalcedony | kewl |
| 06:04.42 | chalcedony | glad somiaj :) |
| 06:04.59 | somiaj | p0wersploit: lines 15-20 should be all you need, and even there you should only need the Driver line and the others are optional. But I would dlete all except lines 16-20 |
| 06:05.23 | somiaj | chalcedony: it seems to install in sid jsut fine too, but my sid chroot needed tons of dependencies for skype. |
| 06:05.50 | p0wersploit | heh wrong person |
| 06:06.06 | somiaj | from a base install skype needs 197 packages, 88.4 MB of download and 333 MB of space on the disk |
| 06:06.16 | somiaj | p0wersploit: oh yea...silly tab completion |
| 06:06.21 | somiaj | shrewdspirit: see my comment to p0wersploit |
| 06:06.33 | somiaj | shrewdspirit: you can also check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see any issues with starting x |
| 06:07.33 | capri- | i cant find pacemaker in debian 8 - which cluster software is the default one for jessie? |
| 06:08.28 | shrewdspirit | somiaj, First time, cursor was hidden, I removed xorg.conf and ran aticonfig agian and rebooted and now I have cursor! But how can I make sure that xorg,xserver or whatever is using AMD and not Intel HD? |
| 06:08.53 | somiaj | capri-: https://wiki.debian.org/Debian-HA/ClustersFromScratch -- something like that? |
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| 06:10.01 | capri- | somiaj, thanks a lot. so pacemaker is only available at the testing repos at the moment as i see |
| 06:10.05 | capri- | funny^^ |
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| 06:10.45 | somiaj | capri-: well jessie froze about a year ago so it might have been ready then |
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| 06:12.11 | capri- | somiaj, thx |
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| 06:14.53 | somiaj | the issue with skype in sid right now is libglib2.0-0, the 64bit and 32bit versions don't matcha nd conflict with eachother. |
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| 06:15.57 | somiaj | seems there is a small version conflict and it may update in a few days |
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| 06:16.11 | somiaj | optraz: ^^ |
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| 06:18.52 | optraz | optraz: thank you! :) |
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| 06:19.10 | optraz | somiaj: can i rank this issue to high? as i use it for work conference |
| 06:19.24 | optraz | somiaj: or anything that i can do to expedite the fixing process |
| 06:19.47 | somiaj | optraz: if you want a system that is guarnteed to be stable for work use jessie, you can submit a bug report, but it is probabaly just a transition that will fix iteslf once the version in i386 catches up |
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| 06:21.16 | themill | it FTBFS on i386 so it might take a bit more work |
| 06:21.32 | somiaj | optraz: ii skype:i386 4.3.0.37-1 i386 -- fix the one conflicting libary by using snapshot.debian.org (or /var/cache/apt/archives if you don't clean it out) and wa-la skyped installed. |
| 06:21.40 | optraz | somiaj: "....once the version in i386 catches up" what do you mean by that? could you explain further |
| 06:21.52 | somiaj | i.e. downgrade the amd64 libary to match the version in i386 it will work. |
| 06:22.36 | somiaj | optraz: there is a slight version difference between amd64 and i386 and as themill pointed out some issues preventing the i386 version from matching the amd64 one. multiarch really needs the two libs to have the same version (even if it is a slight changE) this is the conflict. |
| 06:23.03 | optraz | somiaj: okay, clear. |
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| 06:23.16 | optraz | somiaj: okay, i will file a bug report in debian |
| 06:23.18 | optraz | thank you. |
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| 06:23.36 | themill | I don't think there's a bug to be filed. This is entirely normal in sid |
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| 06:24.09 | somiaj | yea the bug report will just be ignored until the the versions match again then closed, it most likley wont' change anything |
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| 06:24.20 | optraz | themill: if this issue can be fix today, that will be awesome, as many people like me use skype like a lifeline :) |
| 06:24.37 | themill | optraz: don't use sid or install the older version of the library |
| 06:24.42 | somiaj | optraz: if you want a system to be for production debian suggests you run stable. If you want to fix the thigns when they break use sid. |
| 06:24.44 | optraz | somiaj: okay, dont file then. i was hoping i can do something myself to help to speed the fixing process |
| 06:25.28 | themill | optraz: if you can work out why the package failed to build on i386 that might help, but there's a chance the maintainer is already working on that |
| 06:25.57 | somiaj | optraz: also learn from this, in sid you ened to be able to track down conflicts when they happen. |
| 06:26.00 | optraz | themill: somiaj i really like debian but i have been using stable/testing in the past, some app like browser, pidgin , etc is too old breaking end user usage, hence i switch to sid last year. |
| 06:26.29 | themill | optraz: testing is 5 days older than sid and doesn't have these problems. |
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| 06:27.13 | somiaj | optraz: so use jessie until you need something newer, look into backporting that thing you need. If it comes that the thing you need just cannot be backported to jessie then upgrade to stretch. |
| 06:27.53 | optraz | okay, testing now point to stretch |
| 06:27.57 | somiaj | or just change your sources to stretch and slowly let yoru system become testing. There are far less package conflicts in testing. |
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| 06:28.12 | optraz | somiaj: okay, i will change from sid to stretch |
| 06:28.24 | optraz | in /etc/apt |
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| 06:35.14 | optraz | somiaj: just change from sid to strech in /etc/apt , apt-get clean autoclean update and upgrade is sufficient? |
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| 06:35.34 | somiaj | well there will be no 'upgrade' since the packges willb e older |
| 06:35.45 | somiaj | but this will make it so over time you will eventually be running only software from testing |
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| 06:36.17 | optraz | ok |
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| 06:41.03 | shrewdspirit | BTW is it possible to install Ubuntu packages in Debian? |
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| 06:45.15 | civillian | From a box running jessie/testing, now that jessie is stable I've done an apt-get upgrade / dist-upgrade (to jessie) yet I'm still running init for PID 1. Why is this? |
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| 06:47.25 | themill | civillian: have you rebooted? |
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| 06:47.54 | civillian | themill: fairly sure I have, is it supposed to be systemd from an upgrade path? |
| 06:48.25 | themill | yes, unless you jump through some hoops to push the upgrade in a different direction. Do you have systemd-sysv installed? |
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| 06:48.59 | civillian | it appears not |
| 06:49.22 | themill | sysvinit-core? |
| 06:49.34 | civillian | yes that is installed |
| 06:49.49 | civillian | 2.88dsf-59 |
| 06:49.59 | themill | yeah, so that's the alternate path where you end up staying with sysvinit |
| 06:50.50 | civillian | I don't recall doing anything special for my sources.list, fairly typical repos pointing to jessie (not testing) |
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| 06:51.00 | optraz | somiaj: did all that and try to install again skype, dont work, iguess reaqlly need to wait for the i386 dependency for skype get upgraded.. |
| 06:51.03 | optraz | ? |
| 06:51.18 | themill | optraz: as we said, you need to downgrade that library |
| 06:51.43 | themill | civillian: this is normally tweaked by pinning |
| 06:52.10 | GPenguin | i wonder what i did to end up with that alternative sysvinit path |
| 06:52.38 | civillian | themill: hmm I have package: * pin release a=unstable which looks a bit dodgy |
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| 06:53.25 | civillian | I put that there one day for a nodejs repo |
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| 06:53.46 | optraz | that library, themill what library? |
| 06:53.48 | civillian | themill: would installing systemd-sysv magically put all my daemons onto systemd? |
| 06:53.59 | knivsta | hi |
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| 06:55.26 | civillian | themill: imho init scripts get messy, I don't know if there is an automated way to 'migrate' them onto systemd |
| 06:55.59 | themill | optraz: the one you were stuck on -- libglib2.0-0 |
| 06:56.21 | __marco | Hi! Are there tools to explore a repository without modify the /etc/apt/sources.list file? |
| 06:56.44 | themill | civillian: that will switch the init system to be used at next boot; many packages have native systemd configs included and will start using them but for some packages the old init script is still used |
| 06:56.48 | __marco | I just need to see the list of packages of that repository |
| 06:56.51 | themill | __marco: explore in what way? |
| 06:57.02 | themill | __marco: you can look at the Packages file in the repo |
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| 06:57.47 | civillian | thanks themill |
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| 06:57.53 | themill | __marco: there's also chdist in the devscripts package which lets you point apt at arbitrary repos |
| 06:57.56 | __marco | ok wget and grep will do, I think |
| 06:58.05 | __marco | ah, ok |
| 06:58.17 | themill | grep-dctrl can be more sophisticated than just grep, depending on what you want |
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| 06:58.52 | themill | there's nothing wrong with «wget -O- ⦠| grep ^Package» if this is just a one off |
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| 06:59.50 | __marco | themill: that is what I thought about |
| 06:59.57 | GPenguin | i used debian-8.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso to install my computers and virtual machines. how comes they all use sysvinit? |
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| 07:01.04 | GPenguin | and the release notes say nothing about systemd btw |
| 07:01.14 | themill | the release notes say a lot about systemd |
| 07:01.34 | GPenguin | yeah, ignore that last comment please |
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| 07:03.46 | themill | GPenguin: so is the systemd-sysv package installed on these machines? |
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| 07:05.27 | GPenguin | themill: yes it is |
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| 07:06.01 | tr00per | hey |
| 07:06.03 | themill | so what makes you say that systemd is not the init system? |
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| 07:06.46 | GPenguin | cause the other guy mentioned that /sbin/init is still the first process |
| 07:06.55 | tr00per | i have a debian 7 pc and I've just realized that mouse & keyboard does not work |
| 07:07.14 | tr00per | it happens when lightdm starts |
| 07:07.21 | TyrfingMjolnir | How do I remove 9.1 and 9.3? |
| 07:07.22 | tr00per | i have ssh |
| 07:09.05 | tr00per | i can type without any problems when i kill lightdm |
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| 07:09.43 | themill | GPenguin: you will find however that /sbin/init -> /lib/systemd/systemd |
| 07:09.58 | tr00per | any help? |
| 07:10.35 | GPenguin | oh no. i make so many stupid mistakes lately. i am sorry |
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| 07:12.25 | LiquidRain | Is there a proper channel for complaining about mirror/httpredir performance? |
| 07:12.37 | LiquidRain | I'm in Japan and I'm bouncing between mirrors that net me 200KB/s and 2KB/s |
| 07:13.25 | themill | LiquidRain: mirrors aren't managed by the debian project at all |
| 07:14.04 | LiquidRain | yes, but httpredir is, and if it's pointing me to e.g. San Francisco instead of Tsukuba University I'm going to have a bad day :) |
| 07:14.26 | themill | LiquidRain: there's contact info on the httpredir.d.o site |
| 07:14.47 | LiquidRain | alright, I'll try that, thanks. |
| 07:14.50 | optraz | themill: libglib2.0-0 is already the newest version. libglib2.0-0 set to manually installed. |
| 07:14.55 | optraz | so what now? |
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| 07:15.14 | themill | you need to install the same version for both i386 and amd64 |
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| 07:28.13 | optraz | okay, clear |
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| 07:28.18 | optraz | themill: ^^ |
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| 07:29.55 | optraz | themill: https://paste.debian.net/251668/ |
| 07:29.57 | optraz | can you explain why? |
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| 07:31.59 | cplemaster | Hello everyone |
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| 07:32.15 | cplemaster | I have a question for you all, how hard is it to compile a kernel module and add it to your current kernel? |
| 07:32.19 | cplemaster | Does it take quite a bit of work? |
| 07:34.48 | cplemaster | I ask because I have an ODROID-C1 ARM board and its stock kernel does not support XFS. I need XFS for my external WDD Elements drive, but I have no idea where to start to add support for it. Users have said to clone the git for XFS and compile it as a kernel module, but I have no idea where to begin on that. Others have said just use a userspace driver, but unfortunately I'm new there as well. |
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| 08:07.39 | user11 | can anyone predict when weekly builds will start to compile? |
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| 08:12.00 | Lope | I run debian on all of my systems except my desktop, this question is not ubuntu specific, but more of a general apt question, there doesn't seem to be any ubuntu people who can help me at the moment. |
| 08:12.09 | Lope | I'm running ubuntu 14.04 trusty, and I wanted to run a newer virt-manager (>=1.0). First I checked trusty-backports, but that doesn't have virt-manager. Then I added the utopic sources and preferences for apt. http://pasted.co/a3ba6210 |
| 08:12.17 | Lope | I was able to install the newer version of virt-manager from utopic on trusty, but now when I run apt-get upgrade apt wants to upgrade basically every package on my entire system. What's up? |
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| 08:14.38 | Lope | Here's a better paste: http://pasted.co/424ac6c9 |
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| 08:29.11 | alad | Lope: http://slartie.com/issue_0007/slartie_com_issue_0007.html#topic01 |
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| 08:29.21 | alad | same principles apply to buntu |
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| 08:33.33 | Lope | okay, fixed it. Added this to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00default-release APT::Default-Release "trusty"; |
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| 08:34.05 | fyuza21 | I got the problem that one specific option in the settings menu of vlc is grayed out. I cannot set always reset audio start level. |
| 08:34.16 | fyuza21 | using debian 8 |
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| 08:43.51 | karlpinc | cplemaster: See http://manpages.debian.org/kernel/handbook It's easier to rebuild the whole kernel than to try to make a module. Just use the /boot/config-* of your kernel and modify it to turn on the module you're interested in. |
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| 08:56.19 | soundtoxin | can someone tell me what sort of things control when monitors are told to go dim, and when the computer locks? |
| 08:56.43 | soundtoxin | my monitors go dark every 5 mins and it's pretty annoying, the only thing that stops it is if VLC has a video open and playing/paused (playlist with nothing playing doesn't even work) |
| 08:56.54 | soundtoxin | sucks having to wiggle my mouse during youtube videos or if i want to use a different video player |
| 08:57.03 | soundtoxin | also if I'm playing games with a controller the screen goes dark |
| 08:57.18 | Mikko- | check your power managment for display options |
| 08:58.01 | alad | soundtoxin: man xset |
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| 08:58.24 | soundtoxin | Mikko-: is there a CLI or environment-agnostic way to do that? |
| 08:58.29 | soundtoxin | I'm just rocking openbox with a panel |
| 08:58.37 | soundtoxin | alad: thanks will read |
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| 09:00.26 | xlmarker | also you can try with https://github.com/iye/lightsOn |
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| 09:05.01 | soundtoxin | xlmarker: thank you, I'll take a look at that also |
| 09:05.33 | soundtoxin | xlmarker: oh man that's actually really handy BUT I stopped using flash recently.. any chance it can still tell if I'm watching youtube? |
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| 09:07.35 | foofoobar | Hi. I have the following line in my lastlog: âreboot - system boot - 3.16.0-4-amd64 - Sat Jun 20 08:21 11:13 (2+02:52)â |
| 09:07.41 | foofoobar | How can I find out what caused this reboot? |
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| 09:09.09 | xlmarker | soundtoxin: I think it is posible to modify the code in order to check if firefox is in fullscreen mode and block the screen shutdown in that case |
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| 09:10.02 | soundtoxin | I can't really code at all but I guess maybe that's worth looking into |
| 09:10.07 | xlmarker | also you can search the youtube string in the window title in order to know if you are at youtube |
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| 09:10.47 | alad | sounds complicated, I'd just use mpv+youtube-dl |
| 09:10.54 | alad | mpv delays the screensaver by default |
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| 09:11.19 | alad | as long it's the X one, for Xscreensaver you need to make a config change |
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| 09:11.44 | pitanje | test |
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| 09:11.45 | alad | or smtube+mpv, I guess, if you're lazy |
| 09:12.09 | pitanje | How to stop record after command: "arecord -|aplay -" |
| 09:12.12 | pitanje | ? |
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| 09:17.15 | xlmarker | xlmaker: you can try alad's solution. Also, you wait a bit, I'm trying to modify lightson in order to work with firefox fullscreen. |
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| 09:18.30 | xlmarker | soundtoxin: you can try alad's solution. Also, you wait a bit, I'm trying to modify lightson in order to work with firefox fullscreen |
| 09:18.49 | soundtoxin | xlmarker: I may have just found an easy way out, although I don't know if it worked yet |
| 09:19.06 | soundtoxin | I'm using mostly configs from an old crunchbang setup, and I found something related to power settings that linked to a package I didn't have |
| 09:19.18 | soundtoxin | got xfce4-power-manager and then told it to manage my power and told it to never dim my display |
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| 09:19.37 | soundtoxin | I'd prefer a whitelist of applications that stopped the screen from going dark to making it never go dark but this is better than nothing |
| 09:20.01 | soundtoxin | alad: I'm 99% mpv doesn't display the screensaver by default on my computer |
| 09:20.06 | soundtoxin | *does |
| 09:20.31 | alad | well IDK if you use an additional screensaver |
| 09:20.32 | soundtoxin | s/display/delay |
| 09:20.37 | soundtoxin | xscreensaver is all I use |
| 09:20.51 | alad | well as said, you need to adjust the mpv config as man xscreensaver suggests |
| 09:21.11 | soundtoxin | ah alright |
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| 09:22.07 | soundtoxin | alad: so do you use youtube-dl? I've got it installed, as well as livestreamer (in my efforts to get a good youtube experience without flash), but I don't really want to store all the youtube videos I watch |
| 09:22.16 | soundtoxin | and livestreamer wasn't working with youtube videos last time I tried for some reason |
| 09:23.11 | alad | soundtoxin: I do, you can just do mpv <youtube video> and it uses it - I'd have to check if it stores temporary files |
| 09:23.40 | soundtoxin | alad: Oh, fantastic. That sounds less complicated than everything I was trying. |
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| 09:25.18 | alad | maybe obvious but you should also put the youtube-links in quotes |
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| 09:25.45 | alad | as bash otherwise chokes on the = |
| 09:25.51 | soundtoxin | huh.. |
| 09:25.52 | makkan | I just installed Jessie on a machine that had a pretty basic installation of Wheezy before that. But something has changed in the way Jessie displays ANSI graphics between the two. On my old system it worked pretty well but in jessie it does not. To be more specific if I move with the cursor keys through the menu, of my music player in this case, it will not change color as I move from item to item in Jessi |
| 09:25.58 | makkan | e, but it works in Wheezy. What might have changed and where should I start digging? Both systems are sv_SE.utf8 locale and have the en_US.utf8 locale installed as well. |
| 09:26.00 | soundtoxin | alad: it didn't have any issues just now |
| 09:26.03 | alad | oh |
| 09:26.11 | alad | lucky then :p |
| 09:26.20 | makkan | this is all in console btw. |
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| 09:26.53 | alad | soundtoxin: derp, it's because I'm on zsh. nvm then |
| 09:27.14 | FilipeMaia | Whatâs the syntax to define a templated member function of a templated class, outside of the class declaration? |
| 09:27.26 | soundtoxin | alad: I was a bit confused as I couldn't think of what = does in bash |
| 09:27.35 | soundtoxin | thanks for the tip anyway, zsh is intriguing and I've considered using it |
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| 09:28.11 | soundtoxin | alad: one last question for you, how do I specify a quality when watching youtube videos in mpv this way? |
| 09:28.22 | FilipeMaia | I tried template <typename A, typename B> Foo<A>::Bar(B b){} but that doesnât seem to work |
| 09:28.31 | alad | it seems zsh has an issue with the "?" in the URL |
| 09:28.39 | alad | soundtoxin: see --quvi-format in man mpv |
| 09:28.39 | FilipeMaia | Oops sorry wrong channel |
| 09:28.53 | alad | I think that should work, haven't tried personally |
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| 09:29.48 | FilipeMaia | alad: was that for me? |
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| 09:30.10 | alad | FilipeMaia: sorry, it was about --quvi-format |
| 09:30.18 | FilipeMaia | alad: :) ok |
| 09:30.37 | soundtoxin | alad: not finding anything with "quvi" when searching the man page |
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| 09:30.44 | soundtoxin | and -format has a million results |
| 09:31.21 | alad | soundtoxin: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9501651e867c8a09c55a |
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| 09:32.07 | soundtoxin | alad: thank you |
| 09:32.09 | alad | it could actually be that mpv uses this instead of ytdl - it seems to depend on mpv version |
| 09:32.12 | alad | see https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/1290 |
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| 09:34.42 | alad | in either case, you can get the last mpv version with https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build#instructions-for-debian-and-ubuntu |
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| 09:37.01 | ntz_ | is here a "Paul Martin" ? |
| 09:37.05 | ntz_ | hello btw |
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| 09:40.49 | makkan | Here's a two images showing what the hell I'm talking about: http://imgur.com/a/1gYcn |
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| 09:41.11 | ntz_ | anyhow, is he's here (or you know it where he is) tell him: >> fuckin' pay care to your open bugs you lazybody, that at least you do a comment about proposed solution (solution on silver plate) .. << |
| 09:41.21 | ntz_ | **s/is/if/ |
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| 09:41.44 | alad | lol |
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| 09:47.39 | jelly | makkan: which terminal emulator are you using? |
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| 09:52.41 | makkan | jelly: both standard console i.e no emulator and urxvt and putty (from work) |
| 09:53.27 | makkan | jelly: but I'm more focused on getting it to work in virtual console i.e what I just called standard console ;) |
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| 09:58.01 | foofoobar | I have the following line in my lastlog: âreboot - system boot - 3.16.0-4-amd64 - Sat Jun 20 08:21 11:13 (2+02:52)â. How can I find out what caused this reboot? |
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| 10:03.25 | jelly | makkan: which music player is that, is it packaged? |
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| 10:15.19 | repxl | is sendmail by default installed and working ? in debian 8 |
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| 10:16.31 | pfote | why would you want to install sendmail? |
| 10:17.03 | repxl | pfote i need sending emails from my php website mainly only sending to my users a no-reply@mywebsite.tdl |
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| 10:17.36 | pfote | repxl: use the default exim |
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| 10:17.53 | sauvin1 | Help! |
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| 10:18.39 | alad | sauvin1: I need somebody! not just everybody! I need someone, not just anyone |
| 10:18.41 | repxl | pfote i wonder it's assumed as default but i still have to run apt-get install exim4 is it not awful so it is default or not .. i dont understand this "default" purpose |
| 10:18.42 | alad | <.< |
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| 10:19.28 | alad | repxl: exim4 is installed if you selected the "basic utilities" task |
| 10:19.38 | alad | in the installer |
| 10:19.50 | sauvin1 | I just installed Debian Jessie on my system, with KDE. I have an nvidia geforce 6150 (c61). The desktop is hopelessly garbled. What to do? |
| 10:20.14 | repxl | alad how can i check if it is installed ? im on digitalocean and i have no clue what they installed |
| 10:20.45 | alad | oh.. well, e.g apt show exim4-base |
| 10:22.04 | repxl | alad ty i gona try this :) |
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| 10:24.16 | ntz_ | sauvin1: I'd start with calming down and explaining better here what's up |
| 10:25.21 | karlpinc | Is there any tool that will validate the packages in a mirror? Sorta like debsums, but for uninstalled packages. |
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| 10:26.02 | sauvin1 | I can't explain better. I have an nVidia GeForce 6150, and just installed Debian Jessie with KDE. The screen is all garbled up. Parts of windows show up, without other parts, the task bar is missing, the start menus show if *if* they feel like it. |
| 10:26.15 | karlpinc | sauvin1: Press ctrl-alt-f1 and fix it from the console. |
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| 10:26.55 | karlpinc | sauvin1: You'll probably want to look at the /var/log/X.log* file. Beyond that I can't say. |
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| 10:28.02 | sauvin1 | I have no idea how to fix it from the console. |
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| 10:28.25 | sauvin1 | (it is, in fact, a console and weechat-curses that GOT me here). |
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| 10:30.23 | karlpinc | sauvin1: You could paste your X.log on a paste site and see if anybody can help. You might also look at dmesg output, possibly. |
| 10:32.52 | sauvin1 | Mm. Kinda limited with what I can do at the moment. :sigh: |
| 10:32.55 | sauvin1 | later. |
| 10:33.03 | GPenguin | hang on |
| 10:33.17 | GPenguin | maybe the tool "pastebinit" can help you |
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| 10:34.33 | sauvin1 | I was hoping for some quick fix. Don't think that's going to happen. Gotta get to bed, will chase this down when I get back from work about 18 hours from now. |
| 10:34.38 | GPenguin | maybe you need the legacy driver for an older card |
| 10:34.49 | GPenguin | but without a log its just a lucky shot |
| 10:34.49 | sauvin1 | Erm, make that 19 hours. |
| 10:34.52 | repxl | hey should i be carefull with apt-get upgrade ? or there can nothing happen |
| 10:35.16 | sauvin1 | I just tried an apt-get distupgrade, that was a disaster. |
| 10:35.31 | alad | repxl: debian maintainers aren't perfect - install apt-listbugs for some basic preventive measure |
| 10:35.33 | sauvin1 | Anyway, ciao. |
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| 10:36.17 | alad | repxl: and stick to stable :P |
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| 10:36.26 | repxl | alad is this somekind of rollback if something fuckedup? |
| 10:36.41 | alad | no it just tells you if someone reported that a package broke |
| 10:36.56 | alad | there's 9000 backup tools |
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| 10:38.22 | rrasp | Hi, I am having problems with gtk themes and icons after updating to jessie. First of all the icons in applications using gtk-3 are missing now, while all was working fine in debian wheezy with the same configuration files. Second, some aplications, like the tor browser bundle, are ignoring conpletelly the theme config files and falling back to the default look. |
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| 10:38.44 | rrasp | and https://paste.debian.net/252156/ for gtk-3 |
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| 10:39.49 | rrasp | is there anyone having similar issues or knows what is the cause? |
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| 10:40.08 | alad | rrasp: gtk3 jumped a few versions between wheezy and jessie, so I'd try with a new user account |
| 10:40.39 | Walex2 | rrasp: if you have custom configuration files for themes, there is no guarantee that they are compatible with the new versions of GTk. |
| 10:41.27 | Walex2 | rrasp: the same happens for any configuration file. Some Debian packages will try to convert old version configuration files to new version one, but most won't. |
| 10:42.23 | rrasp | alad: I have already try that |
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| 10:42.32 | makkan | jelly: It's a really ancient music player compiled from source. It's called CAMP and you can find here: http://www.sector7.nu/camp/ |
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| 10:43.50 | rrasp | Walex2: The configuration files are quite standart and the themes I am using are installed all from the official repositories |
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| 10:43.54 | Nindustries | Hi, anyone here using acd_fuse ? |
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| 10:44.08 | Nindustries | Just curious how good it works. |
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| 10:46.29 | hhee | test |
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| 10:46.57 | hhee | msg not working in channel? |
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| 10:47.11 | hhee | or others |
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| 10:59.57 | repxl | when i use a FQDN like mail.myweb.com will people see that emails come from mail.myweb.com ? exim |
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| 11:01.49 | Equa | yes, but you need to configure exim4 to do that. default installation is only for local mail |
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| 11:06.55 | elfranne | I installed Jessie on a software raid setup, my question is after i installed grub on both disk is there something i need to do so both disk gets update ? |
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| 11:07.17 | Rudde | Why isn't xfs bundled with debian? |
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| 11:08.35 | alad | Rudde: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/xfs-modules-3.16.0-4-amd64-di |
| 11:08.53 | Rudde | what? |
| 11:09.04 | alad | debian has xfs support, see also xfsprogs |
| 11:09.10 | alad | unless you mean something else than the file system |
| 11:09.18 | Rudde | I don't have it on a fresh inst7all I had to install it via apt-get |
| 11:09.38 | Rudde | I used ext4 for OS during install but I wanted xfs on my file disks |
| 11:09.53 | alad | if you don't mention the installer that you want xfs, it obviously won't give you xfs |
| 11:10.11 | alad | so you'll have to use apt-get - not sure why this is an issue? |
| 11:10.33 | Rudde | Well it is in fedora |
| 11:10.38 | Rudde | even tho I installed with ext4 |
| 11:10.44 | alad | X is in Y, *shrug* |
| 11:11.21 | alad | I for one prefer adding packages I need than removing ones I don't, but you can't suit everyone |
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| 11:12.04 | Iridos | judd, versions xfs-modules |
| 11:12.05 | judd | No package named 'xfs-modules' was found in amd64. |
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| 11:12.24 | Iridos | oh, -di |
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| 11:13.55 | Iridos | Rudde, I think you'll have to be more precise what your problem is |
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| 11:14.47 | Iridos | seems to me xfs kernel modules are part of the regular kernel tree... only the installer seems to have a stripped-down kernel tree and has an extra-package to enable xfs |
| 11:15.06 | Iridos | your wording is very vague |
| 11:15.42 | Iridos | wheezy has: linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64: /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.ko |
| 11:15.46 | Iridos | !find xfs.ko |
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| 11:16.51 | alad | probably mkfs.xfs from xfsprogs |
| 11:16.59 | Iridos | judd, find xfs.ko |
| 11:17.03 | judd | Search for xfs.ko in jessie/amd64: linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64: lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/fs/freevxfs/freevxfs.ko, lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.ko; user-mode-linux: usr/lib/uml/modules/3.16.7-ckt7/kernel/fs/freevxfs/freevxfs.ko; linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64-dbg: usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/fs/freevxfs/freevxfs.ko, |
| 11:17.04 | judd | usr/lib/debug/lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.ko |
| 11:17.25 | Iridos | alad, yeah, maybe that's what he means. double-jeopardy |
| 11:17.34 | Rudde | what? |
| 11:17.57 | Iridos | dpkg, support-jeopardy |
| 11:17.57 | dpkg | support jeopardy means: first you get to guess at the question ... and then you're STILL supposed to answer it. Commonly played on #debian on a daily basis and specially weekends, although only few people realize it. Just guessing at the answer without figuring out and naming the question is considered cheating |
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| 11:18.46 | alad | ic |
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| 11:19.29 | Rudde | yes alad I ment mkfs.xfs that is not in my debian my default even tho I instill common system utilities in install |
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| 11:19.43 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'xfs.ko' (2 of 6): (/usr/lib/uml/modules/3.16.7-ckt7/kernel/fs/freevxfs/freevxfs.ko) in kernel/user-mode-linux ;; (/lib/modules/4.0.0-2-586/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.ko, /lib/modules/4.0.0-2-586/kernel/fs/freevxfs/freevxfs.ko) in kernel/linux-image-4.0.0-2-586. |
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| 11:19.50 | Rudde | I have to manuely install "xfsprogs" via apt-get |
| 11:19.55 | Rudde | I was just wondering why? |
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| 11:21.23 | Rudde | I was also wondering if there was possible to use LUKS for a dynamic expanding and decreasing volume? |
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| 11:25.48 | Iridos | Rudde, why would people who don't have an xfs filesystem on their box have it? |
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| 11:26.27 | Rudde | What do you mean Iridos ? |
| 11:26.33 | Iridos | xfsprogs |
| 11:26.54 | Rudde | Because they want it on their fil-server disks? |
| 11:27.12 | Iridos | Rudde, the ones who don't use xfs want it on their servers? Really? |
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| 11:28.26 | Rudde | Why would be want ext2 and 3 insted of xfs? |
| 11:28.30 | Rudde | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:28.40 | Iridos | Rudde, are you making decisions for everyone in the world? |
| 11:28.48 | Rudde | No? |
| 11:28.52 | Rudde | I asked? |
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| 11:29.36 | Iridos | How could anyone answer for every single person installing debian somewhere out there? |
| 11:29.43 | Equa | it's not on by default because not enough people use it |
| 11:29.49 | Iridos | maybe they like ext3/4 or they're a btrfs fan |
| 11:29.52 | Rudde | okey |
| 11:29.57 | Rudde | thanks :P |
| 11:30.37 | Iridos | there's a funny balance between people complaining that stuff isn't installed by default and people complaining too much is installed by default or pulled in by meta-packages (or installer-tasks) |
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| 11:30.53 | pfote | just thought the same :-) |
| 11:31.07 | Rudde | Well can't they just not install common system utitilies if too much is included? |
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| 11:31.51 | UncleMeat | hello, I noticed that packages without a systemd .service file in jessie still work as services if there's an init.d script... but where's the actual "glue" that makes this work? I'm assuming there's a systemd config file for it somewhere |
| 11:31.55 | Iridos | Rudde, whatever will be installed, someone will always complain that too much/too little is installed |
| 11:31.55 | Equa | i rather have the option to install than have it installed for me |
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| 11:32.59 | alad | UncleMeat: good question, perhaps /lib/systemd/system-generators/systemd-sysv-generator ? |
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| 11:33.37 | alad | UncleMeat: http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-sysv-generator.html |
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| 11:34.21 | UncleMeat | alad: yeah, that looks like it, thanks! |
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| 11:34.44 | alad | yw |
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| 11:53.05 | Metalerfag | TROLOLOLOLO |
| 11:53.08 | Metalerfag | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 11:53.11 | Metalerfag | FUCK MY ASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 11:53.12 | Metalerfag | YES |
| 11:53.13 | Metalerfag | DO IT |
| 11:53.15 | Metalerfag | CUM IN IT |
| 11:53.18 | Metalerfag | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 11:53.22 | Metalerfag | UHHHHHHHHHHHHH YEAH |
| 11:53.26 | Metalerfag | BRBRRRBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR |
| 11:54.08 | Arone | fat kid ? |
| 11:54.12 | sonOfRa | !ops |
| 11:54.12 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 11:54.14 | Rudde | Organization:Otero Junior College |
| 11:54.17 | Rudde | Seems accurate |
| 11:54.30 | Nik05 | !ops Metalerfag ban |
| 11:54.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nik05 complains about: Metalerfag ban |
| 11:54.33 | Equa | he just wants attention |
| 11:54.41 | Arone | fat emo boy ? |
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| 11:55.01 | Arone | !ops Metalerfag ban |
| 11:55.01 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: arone complains about: Metalerfag ban |
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| 11:56.51 | Rudde | How do I delete complete partition table and filesystem from a drive in a quick command? |
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| 11:57.11 | Equa | fdisk /dev/sd? |
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| 11:57.35 | Rudde | Just seems like I can write partition teables with fdisk |
| 11:58.10 | Equa | ahh got ya. you wanted a single command line |
| 11:58.20 | alad | Rudde: sg-disk --zap-all /dev/foo |
| 11:58.21 | Rudde | No not really |
| 11:58.30 | alad | but fdisk is better |
| 11:58.32 | Rudde | buty I want to delete all partitiondata and filesystem |
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| 11:58.56 | revision | Rudde: Just wipe it? Check out the dd and shred commands |
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| 11:59.35 | alad | Rudde: you should make clear if you only want to remove the partition information, or everything that's on the drive |
| 11:59.55 | alad | because removing the partition table alone doesn't magically kill all data on the drive |
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| 12:00.37 | Rudde | I just want the drive to seems clear and good to go for mdadm, other filesystems windows etc.. |
| 12:00.56 | Rudde | If the data on it can re recoverd or not does not matter |
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| 12:01.15 | alad | if you're not using encryption just use fdisk + mkfs |
| 12:01.24 | alad | or whatever tool relevant to your situation |
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| 12:12.21 | confrey | hi everybody |
| 12:12.23 | confrey | my wifi has a weird behaviour : I get 8.5 Mbps download and 18 Mbps upload, adapter is a AR9565, no problem about router : my android phone gets about 39 Mbps download and 18 upload, I don't know why my wifi adapter is not performing well in downloading, ideas? |
| 12:12.33 | repxl | how do i apt-get upgrade to only stable relases ? |
| 12:13.32 | Equa | repxl, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 12:13.55 | Equa | confrey, are you getting strong signal for the wifi? |
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| 12:14.57 | repxl | Equa where are deb file location |
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| 12:18.01 | repxl | Equa so i should comment out jessie-updates main in the sources.list and than run apt-get upgrade? |
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| 12:19.04 | confrey | Equa, , I'm one meter awy from router |
| 12:19.17 | Equa | repxl, no. here's the main one |
| 12:19.23 | Equa | repxl, deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
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| 12:20.14 | Equa | confrey, what speed are you connected to the router? |
| 12:20.41 | repxl | Equa so when i upgrade i do something like apt-get upgrade -t deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 12:20.51 | confrey | the router has a 200 Mbps cable DSL |
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| 12:21.20 | Equa | you edit the source file /etc/apt/source.list |
| 12:21.42 | Equa | when you want to upgrade do: apt-get update. then apt-get upgrade |
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| 12:22.05 | confrey | Equa, using my android phone (connected to wifi) by USB tethering, I get about 39 Mbps in down and 18 Mbps in up |
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| 12:23.51 | Equa | you're wondering why it's not close to 200Mbps? |
| 12:24.51 | confrey | Equa, no, I'm wondering why my phone has a faster wifi connection than my lenovo |
| 12:25.54 | Equa | your lenovo use which type of connection to the router? |
| 12:26.20 | Equa | wired or wifi? |
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| 12:26.53 | confrey | Equa, wifi |
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| 12:27.26 | Equa | confrey, what speed is it connected with the wifi connection? |
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| 12:28.37 | Equa | confrey, my wifi router can be set at 54 / 130 / and 300 Mbps |
| 12:28.47 | confrey | Equa, about 8~10 Mbps in down and 18 in up |
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| 12:32.01 | Equa | confrey, run a traceroute and see if any slowing on the network |
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| 12:34.50 | Equa | confrey, no problem. good luck |
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| 12:41.26 | repxl | what is root and postmaster mail recipient in exim |
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| 12:42.47 | Equa | repxl: cat /etc/aliases |
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| 12:44.41 | repxl | Equa what is this should i put there my external email like from gmail so the emails sended on my debian will be redirected to gmail to allow me to see them nice or wtf :D |
| 12:45.43 | Equa | repxl: you need to reconfigure exim to do that. dpkg-reconfigure exim4.config |
| 12:46.32 | Equa | repxl: instructions here. https://wiki.debian.org/GmailAndExim4 |
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| 12:48.54 | blackflow | repxl: there's a huge difference between forwarding (redirecting as you put it) and using gmail as smarthost. Which of those do you want? Note that in case of forwarding, that's not really wise as it'll break SPF |
| 12:49.05 | repxl | Equa i configured exim what are my auth data now or can i turn off the authentication of smtp i mainly want use email only for outgoing emails from php application thats all |
| 12:50.43 | Equa | repxl, have you modified /etc/exim4/passwd.client? |
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| 12:51.15 | Equa | repxl: you will need to enable pop3 on google and lower the security settings for it as well. not a good idea |
| 12:51.30 | repxl | Equa no i just ran this default configs https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-send-only-mail-server-exim-on-ubuntu-12-04 |
| 12:51.54 | repxl | Equa don't mention google ... i only need sending emails from my php application thats all what i need |
| 12:51.56 | Equa | repxl: let me take a look at those instructions |
| 12:52.43 | repxl | Equa i also don't have any MX records i just using my global domain or idk how to name it. |
| 12:52.46 | blackflow | Equa: I agree using gmail to fetch mail via pop3 is not good, but what do you mean about lowering the security settings? |
| 12:53.44 | themill | what does this have to do with pop3? |
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| 12:53.54 | repxl | Equa i would like to shutdown the smtp authentication if that is possible there is no need for auth i using my debian as one person nobody got access and nobody will got access in future |
| 12:54.04 | Equa | blackflow: exim uses an older security feature offered by google so you need to lower the setting in order for it to work |
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| 12:54.34 | blackflow | Equa: but what setting? there's no single security setting. Are you talking about SSL/TLS ciphersuites? |
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| 12:55.03 | revision | repxl: Do you just want to _send_ mail through GMail via exim? or do you want to receive/fetch mail as well? |
| 12:55.06 | blackflow | Equa: becuase I have a few clients that use that, and very high security settings wrt SSL/TLS, and a valid cert. Everything works fine, if you ignore it being pop3. |
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| 12:56.39 | repxl | revision no no sry don't get me wrong forget completely about google ... i only need send emails to my customers from php basically "email verification emails" all know them something like no-reply@mydomain.tdl thats all just for sending purpose |
| 12:56.39 | Equa | blackflow: maybe it was just for me. I received an email long ago from google when I set it up that i needed to lower the security features in order to send and receive mail from gmail. |
| 12:56.40 | blackflow | themill: I guess that was in reply to "redirect to gmail" |
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| 12:57.45 | repxl | i was just asking for what is this root postmaster thats why i asked if that is for redirecting my emails on external like google, yahoo idk what else exists so pls forget about google :D |
| 12:57.46 | at0m|c | gmail allows for app-specific pass once you enable dual authentication |
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| 12:58.05 | blackflow | at0m|c: that's something entirely different |
| 12:58.08 | ksdfuhg | aptitude search doesn't find anything |
| 12:58.29 | themill | ksdfuhg: libav-tools |
| 12:58.35 | ksdfuhg | Thanks |
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| 12:59.42 | revision | repxl: The easiest solution would be to use an external SMTP, such as GMail, and configuration exim to use that SMTP server as a smart-host. That way you won't have to deal with managing a public SMTP server. It's a pain IMHO. :) |
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| 13:01.01 | repxl | revision i had it like this before but i want to have my domain the the headers so ppl see no-reply@mydomain no googles |
| 13:01.52 | repxl | Equa i have nothing in /etc/exim4/passwd.client that means my email sending from php will work without authentication ? |
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| 13:02.06 | blackflow | repxl: you should be able to do that still. Set proper "From", set SPF on your domain to include google's SPF, but all that requires google apps if I'm not mistaken, and that's not free any more (unless you have an older account) |
| 13:02.20 | Equa | you need a smtp server so are you using your isp to send mail? |
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| 13:03.05 | revision | repxl: Where do you host your mail currently? Just create a no-reply@example.com domain and configure exim to send mail through that account. |
| 13:03.06 | themill | repxl: you'd start with "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" and configure exim to be able to deliver mail itself instead of using a smarthost. |
| 13:03.43 | revision | repxl: That should work regardless of the mail provider. |
| 13:04.12 | repxl | Equa i have a VPS on digital ocean i have a domain name my website is working now i installed exim configured like on this website and on php side there is a class called PHPMailer https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer and i have my root@mydomain.tdl and my password that i also using on ssh but it simply not sending emails from php |
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| 13:04.59 | repxl | revision how to set exim to send it tought a specific email like you said ? |
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| 13:05.31 | Equa | repxl: just provide the acct you are using to send the mails |
| 13:05.39 | revision | repxl: I don't know exim by heart, I just know the bascis of how to get it working. Sorry. But it sounds like your trying to setup a public SMTP server for your domain. |
| 13:05.57 | themill | repxl: your requirements seem contradictory. |
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| 13:06.26 | blackflow | revision: no it doesn't, just a nullmailer |
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| 13:07.19 | repxl | im clueless i followed this https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-install-the-send-only-mail-server-exim-on-ubuntu-12-04 i can send emails from the cli but from php using https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer it just dont works i really dont know what to put in the authentication if that is my ssh asscess |
| 13:08.02 | blackflow | there's nothing special about setting the MTA to send out mail, just make localhost a trusted network and use sendmail (php's normal mail() function) or smtp connection but from localhost. Set proper From header, have proper SPF records, and rDNS on your IP, and all is good. |
| 13:08.03 | Equa | repxl: you need a smtp server to send mail. you can use a 3rd party provider(gmail, yahoo, and etc or your own isp to send the mail |
| 13:08.39 | blackflow | I wouldn't suggest using ISP MTAs, those are regularly blacklisted everywhere. |
| 13:08.52 | repxl | Equa i tought exim is a smtp server too |
| 13:08.56 | themill | repxl: so if you run "mailx" then your local exim4 is handing the mail off to gmail and you are happy with that? |
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| 13:11.52 | Equa | repxl: more information on exim http://pkg-exim4.alioth.debian.org/README/README.Debian.html |
| 13:12.31 | antiatom | I am trying to install 8.1 with dm-crypt/LUKS with encrypted boot partition... but d-i will not let me proceed with one large encryptd / parition |
| 13:12.41 | blackflow | repxl: https://github.com/PHPMailer/PHPMailer/blob/master/examples/sendmail.phps |
| 13:12.41 | antiatom | I have read that GRUB2 supports encrypted /boot |
| 13:12.47 | repxl | Equa my full decision to got for exim was it would be faster before i used google smtp and i had no need to install anything just using my php class connect to google smtp and put my "default" login data but somehow this was slow |
| 13:13.10 | blackflow | repxl: use local sendmail facility, don't connect via smtp as that requires a SASL backed account |
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| 13:13.58 | repxl | blackflow what should i do now uninstall exim and install sendmail or wut ? |
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| 13:14.16 | blackflow | repxl: I don't know that class, but from what I see in the docs, don't use username/password and call that isSendmail() function. |
| 13:14.27 | blackflow | repxl: no, exim has sendmail emul binary |
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| 13:20.04 | Equa | repxl: you have a FQDN, DNS, and SPF setup? |
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| 13:20.42 | repxl | Equa i got a FQDN a DNS just www. and @ and SPF is MX i assume no SPF i dont have |
| 13:20.58 | blackflow | wth sentence. |
| 13:21.08 | repxl | Equa i using the DNS from digital ocean |
| 13:22.49 | Equa | repxl: It should should work if you finished all the instructions. Are you having any problems? |
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| 13:24.02 | repxl | Equa i can send email from cli like echo "This is a test." | mail -s Testing mymail@gmail.com i receiving it |
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| 13:25.11 | repxl | Equa but i don't know why i can't send it from php as smtp i also found somewhere that i should run telnet FQDN 587 when i do this i get nothing no connection |
| 13:25.42 | themill | repxl: if you have a working MTA like exim on the server, you should hand your mail off to that MTA not try to use something else |
| 13:25.48 | repxl | Equa i tought i install exim configure it and just put the smtp details in php and boom it will send emails from php |
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| 13:29.07 | Guest__ | Hi, can I repair my usb drive. I see it in dmesg but I can see it with gparted |
| 13:29.16 | repxl | themill ok i have exim but i dont have smtp how i tell php now to send a email using that exim without smtp php can send email tought smtp or sendmail what you suggest me or what should i do now |
| 13:29.31 | themill | repxl: that makes no sense |
| 13:30.02 | Equa | repxl: take a look at this for your php code http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14456673/sending-email-with-php-from-an-smtp-server |
| 13:30.18 | blackflow | repxl: use PHPMAil with sendmail facility. That's using the sendmail binary, not the Sendmail MTA. Your test with echoing to 'mail' command is using just that, mail is using the sendmail binary. |
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| 13:31.51 | themill | You've got to love a library that puts layer upon layer of crud around a simple call to mail(). |
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| 13:32.24 | Equa | themill: makes it interesting xd |
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| 13:32.28 | blackflow | themill: true. But I think that lib's primary use is direct usage of an external smarthost. |
| 13:32.33 | sussudio | well, that was ungood. |
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| 13:33.33 | repxl | blackflow ok it says now message sent but waiting on my gmail account nothing income yet maybe need wait more. |
| 13:33.43 | blackflow | .oO( and this is what you get when you give out cheap VMs to anyone with internet access and zero knowledge about *NIX system administration) |
| 13:34.19 | blackflow | repxl: check the junk folder, and also confirm in /var/log/mail.log that the message was sent and accepted by gmail |
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| 13:36.37 | repxl | blackflow /var/log/mail.log does not exists when i "dir" it in cli however that messages came yet after a decent delay is it because gmail is delayed now or is this because i using sendmail ? |
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| 13:39.19 | blackflow | repxl: eh maybe exim uses another log file? Anything in /var/log/ that would suggest mail or exim logs? |
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| 13:43.03 | jmmm | sorry, I restarted. I was asking -Can I fix my usb stick which is unreadable? |
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| 13:44.11 | Equa | jmmm: when was the last time you were able to read it ? have you tried it on another machine? |
| 13:45.02 | jmmm | Equa, yes, i was transfering files and I tried to delete a file at the same time and it died |
| 13:45.15 | jmmm | I can see it in dmesg, but not with gparted |
| 13:45.37 | repxl | blackflow ok cool working good it also sending in normal box not spam which is good ... but somehow i missing 2 fields that other emails use like send from : nothing and signed from : nothing is this because i don't use a smtp server or are these that CC and BBC ? |
| 13:45.52 | repxl | blackflow i mean BCC ... |
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| 13:49.50 | sussudio | blah... i don't suppose there's an easy way to mirror a system onto another one over network... |
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| 13:50.22 | Equa | repxl: sendmail structure: recipient, sender, subject, and body |
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| 13:51.07 | Equa | jmmm: try to umount and mount it again or use it from a different computer |
| 13:51.30 | jmmm | Equa, I have my linux laptop and a windows desktop, it won't mount on either |
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| 13:51.50 | sdes | Hi everyone I have a question: I want to read The Debian Handbook but is there any part of it that is outdated, specially with the systemd stuff and all? |
| 13:52.04 | jmmm | Equa, it doesn't show up to mount it, I can see it when I try lsusb or in dmesg but not in gparted or fdisk |
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| 13:54.33 | repxl | Equa i mean this http://oi59.tinypic.com/dlrm8z.jpg mailed-by and signed-by on my emails sent from my php by sendmail this two rows does not show |
| 13:54.55 | antiatom | Debian-Installer will not let me have a /boot partition on encrypted device, even tho GRUB2 supports this |
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| 13:57.41 | Equa | repxl: it's only your php code. you need to set them with php |
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| 13:58.17 | repxl | Equa ok ty |
| 13:58.55 | themill | I'd take a guess that's DKIM stuff being shown to you, but anything is possible |
| 13:58.59 | vedranm | hello, anyone using Asus VT207N touchscreen monitor? I'm looking into buying it, but I can't find a source claiming it works on Linux except a single post on LinuxCNC.org |
| 13:59.30 | blackflow | repxl: and btw, you _are_ using your smtp server. the sendmail facility is injecting your mail into the queue directly, as opposed to connecting to it through SMTP protocol and a tcp port. |
| 13:59.31 | Equa | jmmm: do you have the data on the usb drive backed up ? format it with windows if you can't do it on linux. |
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| 14:00.27 | repxl | blackflow ok cool so im using smtp |
| 14:00.31 | blackflow | antiatom: you sure grub supports encrypted /boot? It does support encrypted root, but I don't think /boot can be too. |
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| 14:04.33 | jmmm | Equa, it won't show up on windows either. At least on Linux I can see it using $lsusb |
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| 14:06.56 | Equa | jmm: hardware failure. sorry can't help ya |
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| 14:08.57 | tugrik | vedranm: in my limited experience ( smaller USB monitors ) they're best avoided on linux |
| 14:09.15 | blackflow | jmmm: there's a tool called "TestDisk". If that can't recover the USB, I don't know what can. |
| 14:09.26 | vedranm | tugrik: so I heard :-( do we have a HCL somewhere? |
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| 14:11.41 | AmazinglyDumb | hi |
| 14:11.52 | AmazinglyDumb | tring to install debian, what does that error mean? https://i.imgur.com/MocziYu.png |
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| 14:12.21 | jmmm | blackflow, thx |
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| 14:13.54 | blackflow | AmazinglyDumb: O'RLY! |
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| 14:15.52 | JasonWoof | changes I make with xset -r [keycode] and xset r rate ... and xmodmap -e get reset.. how do I stop that from happening? |
| 14:16.10 | JasonWoof | on my desktop it's usually triggered by plugging in an additional keyboard, though not only then |
| 14:16.21 | JasonWoof | on my laptop, it seems to happen when it's idle for 5 or 10 minutes |
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| 14:16.50 | JasonWoof | (I'm guessing the keybord (type cover) idles out or something) |
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| 14:17.10 | JasonWoof | how do I get my settings to be honored all the time? |
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| 14:25.18 | JasonWoof | btw, I'm using dwm, no desktop manager |
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| 14:26.35 | Equa | JasonWoof: make a sh script and have it run on startup |
| 14:26.43 | at0m|c | in fluxbox i set that in .fluxbox/startup, and that sticks for the session |
| 14:26.49 | at0m|c | not sure on dwm |
| 14:26.57 | JasonWoof | Equa: I do that. my beef is that it gets undone while the computer is running |
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| 14:27.19 | JasonWoof | Equa: on my desktop, whenever I plug a keyboard in, and sometimes while I'm sleeping. on my laptop, it happens many times per session |
| 14:27.38 | JasonWoof | ie while I'm sitting there (but not while I'm typing) |
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| 14:29.27 | tugrik | vedranm: I don't think there's an HCL; I realise it's relatively obvious, unless that tech is new best to just look online and see what success others have had, if any.... |
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| 14:44.07 | karlpinc | JasonWoof: Jessie? |
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| 14:48.56 | jhutchins | JasonWoof: .xsessionrc or .xinitrc depending on your desktop. |
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| 14:50.36 | babilen | dpkg: .xinitrc |
| 14:50.36 | dpkg | The optional customisation script ~/.xinitrc is used for running X as startx, and ~/.xsession is for when using X from a Display Manager like xdm or kdm. .xinitrc is discouraged in Debian, as if you just use ~/.xsession it will work from both startx and the display manager, as documented in startx(1). |
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| 14:51.08 | JasonWoof | karlpinc: sid |
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| 14:51.39 | JasonWoof | karlpinc: this is not a recent problem. been doing this since before jessie I believe |
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| 14:52.20 | JasonWoof | jhutchins: yes, I've been doing that for years. My problem is that the settings don't last as long as my x11 session |
| 14:52.37 | JasonWoof | jhutchins: they are reset whenever I plug in a keyboard, and some other times |
| 14:52.49 | JasonWoof | no desktop manager, just dwm |
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| 14:53.22 | shay_shay | JasonWoof: sid support is on irc.OFTC.net: #debian-next |
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| 15:01.58 | aibak | Why doesn't "apt-get autoclean" remove the package qemu_1%3a2.1+dfsg-12_amd64.deb and similar out of /var/cache/apt/archives, though qemu_1%3a2.1+dfsg-12+deb8u1_amd64.deb and similar are installed?? |
| 15:02.37 | jelly | aibak: "it only removes package files that can no longer be downloaded" says the manual |
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| 15:03.01 | aibak | jelly: AFAIK it sayd *or* can no longer be downloaded... |
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| 15:03.24 | aibak | jelly: usually, the cmd also removes all packages to which there are newer versions installed |
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| 15:03.30 | jelly | aibak: well, RTFM, I can wait... |
| 15:04.28 | Walex2 | aibak: I like a bit finer control than 'autoclean' so I look at 'deborphan' output or use 'aptitude' with limit set to '~G' |
| 15:04.31 | jelly | aibak: it never removes .deb files that are still available in some configured repo. Confirm with "apt-cache policy qemu" |
| 15:04.54 | aibak | jelly: sorry, you're right. |
| 15:05.10 | aibak | Walex2, jelly: is deborphan apt to what I am looking for? |
| 15:05.26 | jelly | sorry, I don't know what you're looking for |
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| 15:05.53 | aibak | jelly: a command that removes any package that is not installed from /var/.../archive |
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| 15:07.02 | Walex2 | aibak: that's not a good aim. |
| 15:07.05 | jelly | aibak: it's not. I don't know of a single command that does that |
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| 15:07.42 | Emery | Is KDE plasma 5.x in the repos? |
| 15:07.44 | Walex2 | aibak: things are a bit more subtle than you think. Please consider getting a bit more information, for example by looking at this tutorial: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/13-one.html#130414 |
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| 15:09.38 | barfod | aibak: i think there was a "cruft" utility or something that was designed to identify stuff that was not installed by apt-get |
| 15:10.03 | barfod | maybe that is not what you are asking, idk |
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| 15:10.40 | aibak | barfod: doesn't seem to be what I am looking for |
| 15:11.17 | aibak | Emery: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=plasma |
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| 15:11.34 | ChrisH | Question on memtest from Debian repos. It looks like this http://picpaste.de/pics/OlEXln08.1434985799.jpg and I am a bit confused about Failing Address beeing 4892.7MB which is greater then 3888MB (4GB RAM installed) |
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| 15:12.00 | Emery | aibak, i was thinking i'd have to upgrade to testing to install kde 5.x |
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| 15:16.09 | aibak | Emery: there seems to be no KDE5 in Debian yet, whatsoever. https://wiki.debian.org/KDE |
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| 15:16.23 | Emery | hmm |
| 15:16.36 | Emery | It seems to have been floating around since jan/fed |
| 15:16.38 | Emery | feb |
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| 15:17.43 | aibak | Emery: it released last July. Don't ask me why or something, I am not using KDE. |
| 15:18.02 | aibak | Emery: (I mean why it's not in the repo) |
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| 15:18.30 | aibak | Emery: but it might be because of extreme instabilities. |
| 15:18.48 | Emery | aibak, it looked pretty nice, ubuntu seems to have a ppa for it. But ubuntu.... |
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| 15:19.49 | Emery | http://media-opensource.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/kde-plasma-520-is-out-you-can-install.html |
| 15:19.50 | Emery | Seems a bit 'iffy' to me |
| 15:19.57 | aibak | Emery: talk the maintainers :-) This is the site of a key package, on the right side there is a button for Developer Information https://packages.debian.org/jessie/kde-plasma-desktop |
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| 15:20.07 | Rudde | Does it exsist a dynamicly online expanding filesystem for lunix I can use with LUKS? |
| 15:20.21 | vedranm | tugrik: thx |
| 15:20.22 | Emery | aibak, i'm sure they have better things to be doing, i'll just wait i suppose! |
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| 15:22.07 | Emery | aibak, thanks anyway :) |
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| 15:27.50 | rozie | ChrisH: this would be kinda funny, but maybe memcached was hit by memory bug? |
| 15:29.00 | rozie | ChrisH: anyway, just try to remove one dimm (if you have two) and try to test one by one |
| 15:29.42 | ChrisH | rozie: there is only one DIMM left, and I do not really know where it is :) I removed the second one and the problem is still there. |
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| 15:35.36 | nadu | I've used 'cd /backups/weekly/; rm * -rf', but it seems like it removed more than I intented it to do :D |
| 15:36.13 | sussudio | why would you cd to a directory first |
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| 15:36.39 | sussudio | rm -rf /backups/weekly/* seems more efficient? |
| 15:36.59 | sussudio | and won't accidently remove / |
| 15:37.15 | ChrisH | rozie: thats OK, see http://superuser.com/questions/419496/why-are-the-failing-addresses-in-memtest86-higher-than-my-total-memory |
| 15:37.15 | sussudio | (if the directory doesn't exist) |
| 15:37.19 | blackflow | sussudio: unless you accidentally hit spacebar between / and backups :) |
| 15:37.35 | blackflow | but I think modern linuxes know better and you'd have to do something like /* as you can't remove root itself |
| 15:37.39 | sussudio | i personally wouldn't delete things automatically. |
| 15:37.40 | nadu | sussudio: ok, I'll try it. It didn't work by typing it with hand |
| 15:38.12 | qu | Anyone know about setting up static routes? http://s7.postimg.org/4f42icax7/LAN.png |
| 15:38.12 | qu | I set one in the router for the camera, but it doesn't work. |
| 15:38.14 | nadu | I'm currently writing back a backup :D |
| 15:38.22 | sussudio | piggy's harddisk was making growling sounds and the filesystem was set to read-only. |
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| 15:39.41 | blackflow | nadu: what do you mean by "more than" you intended? It deleted something outside of /backups/weekly? |
| 15:40.04 | damasceno | Does anyone know where I can find the kernel source files? The /usr/src directory is empty, I'm running Debian Jessie and Wheezy. Thanks. |
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| 15:40.19 | nadu | backflow: yes. it seems like it removed anything in / which wasn't locked |
| 15:40.24 | teclo- | hi, hmmm just installed 8.1 on my workstation, how do I find out if the nvidia acceleration is enabled ? |
| 15:40.31 | sussudio | damasceno: did you actually install linux-source* ? |
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| 15:40.56 | sussudio | because just installing the linux-kernel* only installs the image |
| 15:41.30 | damasceno | sussudio: I've just installed both systems (Wheezy and Jessie) and I would like to apply a patch in order to do that I need to run it in the same directory as the current linux kernel... |
| 15:41.31 | damasceno | get it? |
| 15:41.36 | sussudio | also, you will probably have to unpack it first... |
| 15:41.42 | damasceno | I didn't install anything else, just the Debian base. |
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| 15:42.06 | jhutchins | damasceno: The base doesn't include source code or headers, those are extra. |
| 15:42.19 | afidegnum | hello, pls how do I add this package to debian repositories? |
| 15:42.20 | afidegnum | https://packages.debian.org/sid/rfc5766-turn-server |
| 15:42.38 | jhutchins | !source |
| 15:42.38 | dpkg | As an overview: to work with Debian source packages, add a <deb-src> line to your sources list; cd to a location with free space; download the source package with <apt-get source>; edit <debian/rules> to taste; use <dpkg-buildpackage> to build the new .deb. For more details, also ask me about <package recompile> <backport> <nmg> <policy> <source package> |
| 15:42.40 | blackflow | nadu: that's quite unlikely, but in the future you could remove the dir 'weekly' instead of * in it, and then just recreate it |
| 15:42.42 | sussudio | jhutchins: i figured that went without saying |
| 15:42.58 | damasceno | jhutchins: didn't know about that. |
| 15:42.59 | damasceno | thanks. |
| 15:43.11 | nadu | blackflow: yep, I'm already editing my scripts |
| 15:43.37 | jhutchins | afidegnum: You're not thinking of installing a sid package on stable or testing, are you? |
| 15:43.37 | blackflow | nadu: and then consider something like rsnapshot that automates all that |
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| 15:44.05 | afidegnum | I think I am, I am following an installation instruction |
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| 15:44.12 | nadu | thanks a lot. I put that on my to-do list |
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| 15:44.38 | jhutchins | afidegnum: That's a very bad idea. If you want a package from a different release you should recompile/repackage it. |
| 15:44.42 | jhutchins | !ssb |
| 15:44.42 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 15:45.13 | afidegnum | jhutchins: what are SID packages? |
| 15:45.42 | allizom | afidegnum: sid = unstable |
| 15:45.45 | jhutchins | afidegnum: Mixing packages from different releases (or different distributions) will most likely eventually break your system. |
| 15:45.57 | afidegnum | hmm... |
| 15:46.01 | jhutchins | !sid |
| 15:46.01 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
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| 15:46.37 | jhutchins | afidegnum: sid packages are packages that are not cleared to enter testing yet. |
| 15:46.52 | afidegnum | hmm... i see |
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| 15:46.56 | afidegnum | let me better stop |
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| 15:49.27 | free_speech | since I am not willing to upgrade to Jessie - when will be Wheezy's deathline? |
| 15:49.43 | nadu | blackflow: I just found the problem |
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| 15:50.03 | blackflow | nadu: symlinks? |
| 15:50.08 | nadu | the folder's name is backup |
| 15:50.23 | nadu | so maybe it couldn't cd into it and removed / |
| 15:50.59 | blackflow | nadu: well possible, especially if you used ; and not && (eg cd ... && rm ...) |
| 15:51.03 | nadu | the script runs 'cd /backups/... |
| 15:51.13 | nadu | I did :) |
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| 15:51.56 | blackflow | nadu: take a look at rsnapshot. You can configure it to backup whatever, exclude whatever, in as many daily, weekly, ... snapshots, all handled and rotated automatically |
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| 15:52.46 | nadu | thanks, I will. I just used a script, as I need to dump a mysql db as well |
| 15:53.08 | blackflow | nadu: rsnapshot can call a pre-backup script like that too |
| 15:53.28 | nadu | good to know |
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| 15:55.08 | sussudio | free_speech: you can remove systemd... it's a bit of a pain in the ass, but you can. if that's the reason you want to avoid jessie. |
| 15:55.27 | GPenguin | when i ssh elsewhere in a gnome-terminal and type shutdown there it does not jump back to the origin shell anymore. how can i get this behavior back? |
| 15:55.57 | jhutchins | nadu: Generally it's a bad idea for a script/cron job to change directories and use relative paths. |
| 15:56.20 | jhutchins | nadu: Stay in the default (home) directory and use full explicit paths for _everything_. |
| 15:56.34 | blackflow | GPenguin: the remote being Jessie? |
| 15:56.49 | GPenguin | blackflow: yes, all hosts use jessie |
| 15:57.41 | blackflow | GPenguin: I think you need to install libpam-systemd, I was looking for thesolution to the same problem (ssh connection left hanging), and found that. I haven't yet tried it. |
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| 15:58.10 | eletious | Hey guys, I have debian Jessie installed on a laptop and my /var partition committed suicide |
| 15:58.15 | eletious | it's got some bad blocks |
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| 15:58.33 | eletious | is there a way to repair that partition? |
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| 15:58.56 | Walex2 | eletious: other than backups? :-) |
| 15:59.04 | eletious | yeah :P |
| 15:59.08 | jhutchins | eletious: Why would it stop getting bad blocks? |
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| 15:59.18 | Walex2 | eletious: define "repair" |
| 15:59.38 | jhutchins | eletious: Generally, once a disk starts to fail, complete failure is a mater of time - usually very little time. |
| 15:59.49 | eletious | Walex2: recover as much data from /var as possible so I can put it somewhere else |
| 16:00.45 | jhutchins | eletious: What in particular do you want to recover as opposed to rebuilding? |
| 16:01.11 | eletious | mostly my apache folder |
| 16:01.22 | GPenguin | blackflow: super, that fixed it :) |
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| 16:01.40 | blackflow | GPenguin: didn't in my case.... what did you do other than install it? |
| 16:01.41 | eletious | Honestly, if i could clone the drive I would, but there are bad blocks |
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| 16:02.06 | eletious | because this is a salvage machine at the repair center I work at, the bootloaders locked down by the original owner |
| 16:02.16 | eletious | not bootloader, BIOS, sorry |
| 16:02.16 | GPenguin | blackflow: nothing at all, just installed on the remote host cause the local host had it already and it worked |
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| 16:02.42 | GPenguin | can try with another vm |
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| 16:02.56 | eletious | So reinstalling involves installing the OS on the target hard drive using a different machine... I might as well just go with vms |
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| 16:03.46 | sussudio | !apt-clone |
| 16:03.46 | dpkg | i heard apt-clone is a utility to clone/restore the packages on an apt-based system. It will save/restore the packages, sources.list, keyring and automatic-installed states. It can also save/restore no longer downloadable packages using <dpkg-repack>. |
| 16:03.53 | allizom | eletious: can't you ask the owner to unlock it, or remove the battery? |
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| 16:04.24 | GPenguin | yes, works on the other remote hosts aswell |
| 16:04.35 | eletious | allizom: that was my suggestion, but the customer service reps apparently don't want people to know what happens to their devices after they get bought by us |
| 16:04.39 | sussudio | or maybe it has a bios-lock jumper you can remove |
| 16:04.44 | blackflow | GPenguin: damn, not for me. What command do you use to reboot/restart? |
| 16:04.57 | eletious | if we can't repair it in time we pay the customer for the device, and then we own it, and typically use it for parts |
| 16:05.02 | GPenguin | blackflow: "shutdown -r now" |
| 16:05.32 | blackflow | GPenguin: yeah, that leaves it hanging for me despite libpam-systemd installed |
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| 16:05.49 | eletious | but since this is the only time we've ever gotten this kind of device, we couldn't get the parts for it in time... we had already ordered them when it got "cashed out," and since we never get this kind of laptop most of the parts are useless to us |
| 16:06.19 | sussudio | is it a netbook or something |
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| 16:06.37 | eletious | it's an HP probook... i already looked into disabling the BIOS |
| 16:06.59 | sussudio | eletious: tried ultimate boot cd? it has some recovery tools for passwords and stuff. |
| 16:07.00 | GPenguin | blackflow: bummer |
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| 16:07.26 | eletious | sussudio: I really want to, but the current settings don't allow for USB or CD boot |
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| 16:08.57 | allizom | eletious: it seems to me that removing the BIOS battery doesn't reset it, is it so? |
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| 16:09.56 | sussudio | eletious: have you tried any of the numerous google results that come up for "hp probook password"? |
| 16:11.09 | eletious | allizom: nope, not a thing, though I have to try again to see if it even displays a checksum |
| 16:11.28 | eletious | sussudio: we looked a while back, memory serving we couldn't get anything to work |
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| 16:12.48 | sussudio | eletious: sounds like you have acquired a brand new paperweight/doorstop. |
| 16:13.04 | eletious | sussudio: that's my worry |
| 16:13.12 | eletious | like I said - it only boots from HDDs. |
| 16:13.42 | eletious | so installing means i have to install on a hard drive using a different PC, and then move the HDD into this one |
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| 16:14.13 | afidegnum | jhutchins: I am installing this package with no sucess.... |
| 16:14.15 | afidegnum | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=drupal7-mod-drucall |
| 16:14.18 | allizom | eletious: you should be able to use an hdd docking station |
| 16:14.25 | sussudio | eletious: can't you do a dd clone on it? |
| 16:14.31 | afidegnum | how best do I install? |
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| 16:15.40 | sussudio | ripdisk: offensive hostname you have there. |
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| 16:16.01 | mtn | afidegnum, which version of debian and which version of the package? |
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| 16:16.12 | eletious | sussudio allizom: there's only the one HDD entry |
| 16:16.16 | afidegnum | I am using debian 7 |
| 16:16.18 | afidegnum | wheezy |
| 16:16.34 | sussudio | eletious: you can't use the usb ports at all? |
| 16:16.50 | eletious | noplace to put a second one... and even if there was it'd only boot from the 1st one I put in. So if I got an adapter, it'd be able to read that drive, but not boot from it |
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| 16:17.04 | eletious | sussudio: I can use USB ports but cannot boot from them |
| 16:17.07 | mtn | afidegnum, how are you trying to install and what error are you getting? paste the error to http://paste.debian.net if more than one line |
| 16:17.28 | sussudio | eletious: i was talking about sector copying the hdd to something like an external hdd or usb stick |
| 16:17.47 | afidegnum | mtn: E: Unable to locate package drupal7-mod-drucall |
| 16:17.55 | sussudio | so you'd have at least a backup of the state the disk is in now |
| 16:17.58 | allizom | eletious: no, what I mean is to get the drive out, as you said, then boot another computer from your install media with the drive in the docking station (beware of where you install the bootloader though) |
| 16:18.24 | mtn | afidegnum, do you have non-free and contrib in your sources? did you run update before trying to install? |
| 16:18.33 | eletious | allizom: ...we don't have a docking station :( |
| 16:18.51 | eletious | I would have to take the HDD out of the device I'm using to install in order to do this |
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| 16:18.54 | mtn | afidegnum, wait, I see it is only in wheezy-backports. you need to use that to install |
| 16:18.55 | eletious | which I've done before |
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| 16:19.08 | allizom | then just swap the drives temporarily and go that way |
| 16:19.26 | eletious | just fairly unpleasant... which is why I'm contemplating using a vm |
| 16:19.27 | afidegnum | mtn: |
| 16:19.27 | mtn | !tell afidegnum about debian-backports |
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| 16:20.11 | afidegnum | mtn: how do I add its sources? |
| 16:20.26 | mtn | afidegnum, read what dpkg just sent you |
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| 16:20.47 | eletious | sussudio: that's... actually not a bad idea. Lemme see if I can find a spare external SATA thing |
| 16:21.25 | eletious | wait, shit, nvm. Ours broke almost right after we got it :'( |
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| 16:23.05 | eletious | fedex just showed up with about 150 packages... I'll do some thinking and brb |
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| 16:25.04 | afidegnum | mtn: i still can't find my head out |
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| 16:40.41 | aibak | is it realistic that an updated /var/lib/clamav/ directory takes 97M ? |
| 16:41.22 | ChrisH | aibak: mine has more 150M /var/lib/clamav/ |
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| 16:47.55 | aibak | ChrisH: Can I ask freshclam or something when the last update has been successfully completed? |
| 16:47.58 | sussudio | Piggy on the new pc now... let's hope i didn't fuck up anything. |
| 16:48.50 | eletious | piggy? |
| 16:49.06 | sussudio | my log bot |
| 16:49.37 | eletious | oooo |
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| 16:50.18 | eletious | so you guys were right... that HDD is gone |
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| 16:50.45 | ChrisH | aibak: sudo tail /var/log/clamav/freshclam.log |
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| 16:53.52 | Mikko- | eletious: did you try clearing the CMOS to reset bios? |
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| 16:54.18 | eletious | Mikko-: I did... it wouldn't even give me a checksum afterward |
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| 16:54.53 | eletious | but it was a moot point, I lost another partition I think, now it won't even boot |
| 16:54.55 | afidegnum | hello, pls how do I add this to my /etc/apt/sources.list ? here is the package. https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/drupal7-mod-jscommunicator |
| 16:55.26 | greycat | afidegnum: /msg dpkg wheezy backports |
| 16:55.45 | eletious | so I'm just going to use Workstation instead... easier backups than physical |
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| 16:56.51 | eletious | Quick question to possibly save some time |
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| 16:57.23 | sauvin1 | anyone available to try to help with an nvidia problem? I just installed Jessie and the desktop is hopelessly screwed up. |
| 16:57.36 | danieli | sauvin1, what driver are you using? |
| 16:57.36 | eletious | if I specify a domain during installation and nothing else on the network uses that domain do things break? |
| 16:57.46 | sauvin1 | I assume nouveau. |
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| 16:57.55 | mtn_ | afidegnum, did you read the backports link I sent you? |
| 16:58.02 | washuu_de | I'm back |
| 16:58.04 | greycat | eletious: that only puts the "search your.domain" line in /etc/resolv.conf so no, it won't really hurt anything |
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| 16:58.09 | afidegnum | yes, I read, |
| 16:58.12 | afidegnum | but confusing |
| 16:58.17 | danieli | Probably nouveau. How is it screwed up, exactly? Checked logs? |
| 16:58.23 | mtn_ | afidegnum, how are you confused? |
| 16:58.24 | aibak | ChrisH: The directory is still at 97M but freshclam log says that main.cvd, daily.cvd and bytecode.cvd are up to date. Might I assume that the virus database is up to date and ready for a check? |
| 16:58.34 | eletious | greycat: so will other devices with that domain get picked up and added to hosts? |
| 16:58.50 | greycat | No. It doesn't put things in /etc/hosts at all. You have to do that manually if you want it. |
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| 16:58.56 | eletious | gotcha |
| 16:59.02 | sauvin1 | How about, when I'm looking at the desktop, windows don't show up, or maybe *parts* of the frames show up, and when I move the mouse cursor over where the windows should be, their contents *might* show up in tiny snatches, or might not? |
| 16:59.19 | eletious | just asking, this install is going to be a local DNS server |
| 16:59.23 | sauvin1 | No clue what I'd be looking for in logs. |
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| 16:59.35 | danieli | What window manager and desktop environment are you using? |
| 16:59.49 | sauvin1 | KDE. |
| 16:59.50 | greycat | eletious: a server typically won't add anything to /etc/hosts at all, unless you're using some weird application that requires it. |
| 17:00.00 | afidegnum | mtn_: i m trying to follow this documentation |
| 17:00.02 | afidegnum | http://cgit.drupalcode.org/drucall/tree/README.txt |
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| 17:00.33 | mtn_ | afidegnum, that is not the backports info I sent you |
| 17:00.33 | danieli | I am not awfully familiar with KDE anymore as I have not used it for years. I am unable to help with that, sorry. |
| 17:00.46 | greycat | afidegnum: if you read "/msg dpkg wheezy backports" and added the line that the bot said to add, you should be good to go. apt-get update, and follow the directions from the backports web page. |
| 17:00.49 | eletious | greycat: i see. So I'll still need to add entries for dnsmasq to work properly? |
| 17:00.57 | afidegnum | ok |
| 17:01.01 | afidegnum | thanks |
| 17:01.12 | greycat | Bah, I don't know anything about dnsmasq. How does that differ from normal DNS? |
| 17:01.27 | sauvin1 | I've not dealt with graphics problems of any sort in many years, so I can identify. Stuck right now in consoles. |
| 17:01.45 | eletious | greycat: i'm not sure, I don't really use normal dns |
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| 17:01.58 | eletious | all i know is that I have to edit /etc/hosts for it to work lol |
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| 17:02.33 | moeyebus | Hello. I'm having trouble with repackaging a netinstall bootable iso file, (following these instructions) https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CD#Modify_Image |
| 17:02.54 | moeyebus | Here's my script: http://ix.io/jfe |
| 17:03.14 | moeyebus | It seems modifying the /boot/grub/grub.cfg has no effect whatsoever. |
| 17:03.20 | moeyebus | Is that normal? |
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| 17:04.39 | aibak | ChrisH: since cvd means database it looks the it should be up to date |
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| 17:06.16 | wsky | ok, so, i'm on debian 8, systemd shows smbd as active and loaded but the process does not run |
| 17:06.48 | wsky | when i restart smbd manually it starts but refuses to do that automatically during the bootup |
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| 17:07.19 | greycat | Perhaps you need to do "systemctl enable smbd.service" or something similar. |
| 17:07.33 | wsky | i tried that |
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| 17:11.48 | brainwash | check journalctl then |
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| 17:30.25 | sussudio | how does this atom pc not get warm without a fan... |
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| 17:31.46 | wsky | brainwash: there is nothing usefull in the log |
| 17:31.56 | wsky | brainwash: it just says that it starts and silently fails |
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| 17:35.03 | alad | wsky: /var/log/daemon.log perhaps |
| 17:35.34 | wsky | alad: nothing, just start/stop messages |
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| 17:37.53 | alad | idk then, you can try to run manually whatever's in ExecStart |
| 17:38.00 | alad | and see where it breaks |
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| 17:42.07 | glassresistor | i did an update on friday and now my function keys don't work and gnome3 stopped autologging into my account after boot, any ideas which config files and programms i should explore? |
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| 17:42.32 | glassresistor | going to restart one sec |
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| 17:44.09 | alad | he waited for 21s |
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| 17:47.21 | aibak | doesn't gcap work anymore? I get an error message whatever I am trying to download for captions. If so, what alternative is there on Debian? |
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| 17:47.54 | wsky | alad: the point is that it does not fail when i start it manually |
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| 17:48.36 | alad | oh right, sorry |
| 17:49.00 | alad | if you did enable the service correctly, all I could otherwise think of is a botched [Unit] section |
| 17:49.38 | alad | it's fairly complex, see man systemd.unit |
| 17:49.56 | wsky | all i get in the logs is start/stop notification |
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| 17:50.00 | wsky | k, i'll have a look |
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| 17:51.37 | greycat | I have a squeeze(-lts) server that recently acquired some iSCSI disks. How do I arrange for the iSCSI devices (a) NOT to cause an abort to single-user mode when they can't be fscked, and (b) to be mounted properly instead of my having to mount them manually? |
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| 17:55.08 | greycat | finds https://www.howtoforge.com/using-iscsi-on-debian-squeeze-initiator-and-target |
| 17:55.33 | greycat | https://wiki.debian.org/SAN/iSCSI/open-iscsi is missing all mention of /etc/fstab entries |
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| 17:55.40 | aibak | there are so many tools for downloading videos off youtube and sites but it seems harder to download captions |
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| 17:57.04 | abd5932 | Hi, I have two Jessies - can I connect them directly eth0 to eth0 and use sftp/rsync? If yes - how to configure them to see each other? Thank you! |
| 17:57.44 | greycat | You might need a "crossover" ethernet cable if you aren't using a switch or hub. |
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| 17:58.09 | abd5932 | I read that sometimes it works with the regular one - is it true? |
| 17:58.11 | wsky | alad: brainwash found the issue, it was crashing because it was configured to work on wlan0 and lo0 only and when system boots wlan0 was not configured so it was crashing |
| 17:58.12 | greycat | The more common arrangement would be using a switch. |
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| 17:59.03 | greycat | As far as configuration: give them both static IPs on the same subnet. E.g. 192.168.2.1 and 192.168.2.2 |
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| 17:59.18 | alad | wsky: perhaps you need to append the interface, like enable foo@wlan0 |
| 17:59.45 | abd5932 | greycat: thank you! |
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| 18:00.06 | abd5932 | greycat: is there a chance that it will work without crossover? |
| 18:00.17 | greycat | Maybe? I don't know. |
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| 18:00.46 | sdes | What input manager does Debian use? Ibus? |
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| 18:00.58 | towo` | modern nics doesn't need crossover cables |
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| 18:01.27 | greycat | what constitutes modern? |
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| 18:02.36 | wsky | alad: i think it's more of a upstart samba issue |
| 18:02.43 | wsky | uhm, upstream* |
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| 18:03.17 | alad | wsky: did you check the bugtracker for the package? |
| 18:03.30 | wsky | not yet |
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| 18:16.45 | abd5932 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:17.01 | abd5932 | 2. I placed it into /etc/X11/xorg.conf - how do I enable it now? |
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| 18:24.34 | Iridos | abd5932, I guess you modify the file that "X -configure" gives you... (mind that everything *should* auto-configure without any xorg.conf file... so compare if a hand-made config really fixes anything or only gives you that warm feeling of having configured something without any actual positive effect) |
| 18:25.07 | Iridos | (because auto-configure will work even if your hardware setup changes, while a config file will stay as you created it for that specific set-up) |
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| 18:25.48 | abd5932 | Iridos: the link says that it should improve performance... |
| 18:25.52 | Tom01 | What is a god programmers editor? |
| 18:25.56 | Tom01 | What is a good programmers editor? |
| 18:26.12 | greycat | vim |
| 18:26.31 | Emil_ | nano |
| 18:26.34 | danieli | vim, nano |
| 18:26.47 | ojaito1 | emacs |
| 18:26.49 | Emil_ | In reality you want something that helps you program |
| 18:26.50 | danieli | Don't hate me for it, but I prefer nano. I get a better work flow with it. |
| 18:26.53 | danieli | Emacs is k. |
| 18:27.14 | Emil_ | what kind of plugins/addons can you get for nano? |
| 18:27.32 | Emil_ | Like, as it is it's really barebones |
| 18:27.35 | danieli | Not a lot. Syntax highlighting if you care. |
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| 18:28.14 | Emil_ | well, then I do recommend you learn vi/vim or emacs or something like that |
| 18:28.25 | Emil_ | sublime has some nice features but I wasn't really a fan |
| 18:28.38 | danieli | I enjoy the Atom editor. |
| 18:28.59 | danieli | Adobe Brackets for most front end stuff |
| 18:29.30 | sympto | hi you know linux. what is the default parameter if i let acpi_osi='' empty? Can i pass multiple values? (like !Windows 2012)? |
| 18:29.42 | greycat | Everyone should learn at least the basic keystrokes to survive both vi and emacs, because you never know when you will find yourself stuck in one of them, e.g. when you do "crontab -l" on an unfamiliar system. |
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| 18:30.27 | Emil_ | greycat: imagine the horror when you encounter joe |
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| 18:31.19 | greycat | That's unlikely enough that it's not worth preparing for. |
| 18:31.39 | Iridos | right. better prepare to be dropped into the ed-mode of vi :P |
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| 18:32.21 | Iridos | Tom01, there's no definite answer to that and you didn't even specify which programming language and which project size |
| 18:32.46 | ryouma | in the past 25 years at least, i have never been on a system where i was forced to use vi or vim |
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| 18:32.54 | Tom01 | c, medium project size |
| 18:33.00 | Kobra | dpkg: firmware |
| 18:33.01 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 18:33.10 | greycat | In fact you're more likely to find yourself in ed(1) than in joe. |
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| 18:33.56 | Iridos | in ed(1) and unable to quite :P |
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| 18:40.01 | dupingping | awesome notes editor: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntusticky/files/ubuntu-sticky-trial_1.0.0-0ubuntu1_i386.deb/download |
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| 18:40.27 | greycat | why does that say "trial"? |
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| 18:41.33 | zoug | hello guys, maybe this is not the right place for this question so feel free to redirect me somewhere else.. I just got a VPS with Debian installed and I want to host a static website on it, nothing complicated. The problem is that I can't find any guide on the internet to do so without going through the trouble of installing cpanel or zpanelcp. Could you point me towards a ressource that explains how to do |
| 18:41.35 | zoug | this simply (if possible)? Thanks!! |
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| 18:41.45 | Iridos | Tom01, vim and emacs are popular (and mainstream) for some reasons... and there's probably good reasons to stay with the mainstream. Editors specialized for programming only may have advantages apt-cache search "programming editor" yields "scite" and "x2" , there also seems to be xwpe and medit in Debian (and probably some more) |
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| 18:42.06 | Tom01 | ok |
| 18:42.10 | Emil_ | zoug: mate |
| 18:42.30 | Emil_ | your [favourite search engine]-fu is terrible |
| 18:42.36 | Emil_ | in any case apt-get install nginx |
| 18:42.44 | zoug | no, my english is terrible |
| 18:42.53 | zoug | and finding ressources in arabic is impossible |
| 18:42.59 | zoug | so yeah I kind of struggle |
| 18:43.05 | danieli | bing-fu |
| 18:43.08 | danieli | pukes |
| 18:43.35 | greycat | zoug: if you just want to host a simple static web server, you don't NEED a fancy panel thing. Just install a web server. |
| 18:43.35 | Emil_ | https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-nginx-virtual-hosts-server-blocks-on-ubuntu-12-04-lts--3 |
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| 18:44.09 | Emil_ | I run my static website on DO |
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| 18:44.16 | zoug | okey that's the info I needed! thank you |
| 18:44.35 | Emil_ | the most difficult I had was with understanding the server blocks |
| 18:44.41 | Emil_ | let me share a part of my config |
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| 18:48.42 | Iridos | greycat, I guess it's called "trial", because the whole sourceforge project was created half an hour ago |
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| 18:49.13 | Iridos | which seems a bit suspicious in itself |
| 18:49.37 | Iridos | by the chap who just advertised it here |
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| 18:52.38 | Iridos | and there's only two binary-only .debs ... with empty Changelog and COPYING |
| 18:52.44 | jdennis1 | I'm in the process of trying to switch our most critical server to Debian Jessie. I have new hardware I'm installing it on before I swtch it in. Running into major problems with apache giving a "child pid 11818 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)" when runing some PHP function via SOAP. We are using the default Jessie packages for everything, php, apache,etc. It will work fine one second, then the next it segfaults, very random. |
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| 18:54.05 | blocky | is python-uniconvertor package missing from stable? |
| 18:55.14 | Iridos | hmp, because it's this stickynote http://www.korsoftware.com/ |
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| 18:56.39 | Iridos | judd, versions python-uniconvertor |
| 18:56.40 | judd | Package: python-uniconvertor on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.1.4-1+b1; wheezy: 1.1.4-1+b2; sid: 1.1.4-1+b2 |
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| 18:57.55 | Emil_ | zoug: |
| 18:57.57 | Emil_ | http://pastebin.com/CuMj0mZD |
| 18:58.13 | zoug | cool |
| 18:58.15 | Emil_ | Oh and other people |
| 18:58.28 | Emil_ | if you have suggestions I'm all ear |
| 18:58.33 | zoug | thank you Emil_ , i'm following the tutorial you gave me actually |
| 18:58.46 | Emil_ | I'm a novice myself so there's much to learn |
| 18:58.54 | Emil_ | zoug: np, mate. Glad I could help |
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| 18:59.21 | blocky | Iridos: no jessie eh |
| 18:59.30 | Iridos | blocky, well, looks like... I guess... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?which=pkg&data=python-uniconvertor&sev-inc=critical&sev-inc=grave&sev-inc=serious |
| 19:00.18 | blocky | lol |
| 19:00.21 | blocky | non-free? |
| 19:00.22 | jdennis1 | any ideas on how to resolve my segfaul issues? |
| 19:00.22 | Iridos | err, I mean https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=699301 |
| 19:00.24 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/699301 in python-uniconvertor (open, fixed-upstream, squeeze-ignore, wheezy-ignore): «python-uniconvertor: sRGB_Color_Space_Profile.icm is non-free»; severity: serious; opened: 2013-01-30; last modified: 2014-11-09. |
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| 19:00.38 | Iridos | blocky, if you read the bug, there's more to it |
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| 19:01.58 | Emil_ | zoug: basically you only need the last server block |
| 19:02.10 | Iridos | jdennis1, probably hard to debug if you cannot trigger it... |
| 19:02.13 | blocky | i can understand that debian doesn't want to distribute software that belongs to HP but is that file required for converting svg -> wmf? can't they just remove the offending feature? |
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| 19:02.19 | Emil_ | Just listen to 80, define your domain, your root directory and what content to serve |
| 19:02.21 | eletious-backtow | back |
| 19:02.36 | Luke-Jr | Is there a way to request a backport to wheezy? |
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| 19:04.15 | lack-o-sleep | installing 7.8 and the Configure The Package Manager submenu gives a list of debian archive mirrors to complete the install. Problem is seems like all the mirrors respond with error to the effet that Wheezy is not supported. Is there a mirror on the installer's list that's supports wheezy? |
| 19:04.56 | Iridos | jdennis1, you can look for debian bug reports... but what package... possibly libapache2-mod-php5 --> bugs.debian.org/libapache2-mod-php5 (change settings to include stable and maybe closed bugs) first one to catch the eye is https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=719616 |
| 19:04.57 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/719616 in libapache2-mod-php5 (open, moreinfo): «libapache2-mod-php5: Segmentation fault using libapache2-mod-php5 5.4.4-14+deb7u3 and apache2-mpm-prefork 2.2.22-13»; severity: important; opened: 2013-08-13; last modified: 2014-07-09. |
| 19:04.58 | zoug | Emil_: alright! |
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| 19:05.16 | Emil_ | zoug: oh and if you do use ssl you must define the certs |
| 19:05.52 | Emil_ | ssl_certificate /etc/ssl/example-tld-ssl-bundle.crt; |
| 19:06.01 | Emil_ | ssl_certificate_key /etc/ssl/private/example.tld.key; |
| 19:06.09 | Emil_ | You can name them however you want |
| 19:06.18 | zoug | for now I don't care haha |
| 19:06.29 | zoug | I'll see for SSL after I just want it to work first |
| 19:06.36 | Iridos | jdennis1, even if that bug doesn't describe your exact problem... the debugging done in there is what you need to somehow get done to get a fix for your problem |
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| 19:07.10 | Iridos | judd, versions libapache2-mod-php5 |
| 19:07.11 | judd | Package: libapache2-mod-php5 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3.1-7+squeeze26; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.41-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.41-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; jessie-proposed-updates: 5.6.9+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.9+dfsg-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.6.9+dfsg-1; |
| 19:07.12 | judd | stretch: 5.6.9+dfsg-1 |
| 19:07.36 | Iridos | heh, seems the problem just disappeared for them |
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| 19:09.41 | Iridos | jdennis1, what version of libapache2-mod-php5 are you using? |
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| 19:10.12 | Iridos | time to go home... laters |
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| 19:12.23 | zoug | successssss |
| 19:12.28 | zoug | it works! |
| 19:13.27 | shineworld | hi all, I'm a newbie and I've an issue with an arm board running debian wheezy. When I run apt-get update / apt-get upgrade I gel a lot of: Err http://http.debian.net/debian-security/ wheezy/updates/main gnupg armhf 1.4.12-7+deb7u7 |
| 19:13.27 | shineworld | <shineworld> 503 Service Unavailable [IP: 128.31.0.66 80] |
| 19:13.27 | shineworld | there is a way to update my package list ? |
| 19:13.27 | shineworld | or is only necessary apt-get update .... |
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| 19:18.16 | jdennis1 | Iridos: sorry, I was afk, back now |
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| 19:18.35 | lack-o-sleep | installing 7.8 and the Configure The Package Manager submenu gives a list of debian archive mirrors to complete the install. Problem is seems like all the mirrors respond with error to the effet that Wheezy is not supported. Is there a mirror on the installer's list that's supports wheezy? |
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| 19:18.52 | jdennis1 | Iridos: libapache2-mod-php5 5.6.9+dfsg-0+deb8u1 amd64 is what I'm running |
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| 19:22.57 | jdennis1 | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=753851 looked pretty close to what I'm running into, but it's marked as "fixed" |
| 19:22.58 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/753851 in libapache2-mod-php5 (closed): «apache2: [core:notice] [pid 22446] AH00052: child pid 22554 exit signal Segmentation fault (11)»; severity: important; opened: 2014-07-05; last modified: 2014-08-05. |
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| 19:26.22 | goesmin | this is driving me crazy. two luks volumes i want to automatically open with crypttab. standard 'drivename /dev/sdXY /path/to/keyfile', yet systemd still asks for the password during init. |
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| 19:28.51 | Sendoushi | hey guys how can you know where a hard drive is mounted? |
| 19:29.06 | goesmin | Sendoushi: lsblk |
| 19:29.24 | greycat | what's wrong with df? |
| 19:29.26 | acz32 | anyone know what causes this: installed debian stable with LUKS. when i boot the computer and pass through GRUB, it prompts for the encryption password for a moment and then the screen goes completely black for about 5-10 seconds. then it shows the password prompt again and it's all normal from there |
| 19:29.28 | ryouma | or mount or maybe things like /proc/mounts |
| 19:29.30 | CygniX | or type mount |
| 19:29.41 | goesmin | Sendoushi: sorry, misread your question. mount |
| 19:29.42 | Amun_Ra | goesmin: no keyfile defined in crypttab? |
| 19:29.54 | Sendoushi | goesmin: that is cool enough for me :) |
| 19:30.03 | Sendoushi | though i dont know where the hell is my second drive |
| 19:30.19 | goesmin | Amun_Ra: it's there, let me paste my crypttab maybe i'm forgetting something obvious |
| 19:30.59 | CygniX | acz32: I have debian with luks, on about 14 installations, works fine on all. |
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| 19:31.37 | goesmin | CygniX: Amun_Ra: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=KcR7MQ8r |
| 19:31.40 | pencilandpaper | whats up peoples. |
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| 19:32.49 | acz32 | CygniX: it works fine on my other one too. does that sound like a graphics driver thing? |
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| 19:32.59 | CygniX | goesmin: I use LVM and manually unlock the encrypted device |
| 19:33.25 | CygniX | sounds more like a password issue acz32 |
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| 19:33.37 | Amun_Ra | goesmin: uhm, looks good |
| 19:33.40 | acz32 | the screen just blacks out at the password prompt for 5-10 seconds and then comes back and everything is normal after that |
| 19:33.59 | acz32 | CygniX: password issue? |
| 19:34.05 | CygniX | if you type the correct password then it prompts for it again, I would try to use a live disk and see if it could be unlocked |
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| 19:34.41 | CygniX | acz32: perhaps I misundersood. |
| 19:35.01 | Iridos | jdennis1, "aptitude changelog" shows you what happened with the debian package and debian fixes. You could see if it's already a problem with 5.6.7+dfsg-1 ... but only if the security bugs that were fixed aren't a problem. But before that: Inspecting core-dumps like they do in the bug would also be quite helpful... specially in determining that the problem is really in that package. |
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| 19:35.32 | shineworld | how to point httpredir.debian.org instead of http.debian.net ? |
| 19:36.17 | WangDang_ | shineworld: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 19:36.39 | shineworld | thanks |
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| 19:36.58 | acz32 | it's not prompting again. when it first shows the prompt for the LUKS password, it shows it for a split second and then blacks out. then 5 seconds later the screen reappears and i am able to type it in and it works |
| 19:37.30 | CygniX | oh, maybe graphics issue |
| 19:38.14 | acz32 | ya maybe i should try the intel graphics driver from backports |
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| 19:38.27 | acz32 | but it's weird that it's not messed up anywhere else |
| 19:39.04 | jdennis1 | Iridos: there are no core files that I can find anywhere on the filesystem, including /var/cache/apache2/ |
| 19:40.37 | jdennis1 | Iridos: oh, looks like I need to turn that option on, doing that now |
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| 19:41.43 | sopr | is there a list of wifi chips which dont require non-free software? |
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| 19:42.24 | shineworld | works !!! I'm happy !!!! |
| 19:42.53 | zykotick9 | sopr: i'd have a look at this list (for a start) https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en |
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| 19:43.25 | brainwash | sopr: or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_open-source_wireless_drivers |
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| 19:58.45 | chreuben | Whatâs the tool to run under X if you want to discover Xâs own label for a given key? (e.g. F3, F4, â¦) |
| 20:00.25 | zykotick9 | chreuben: "xev" perhaps? |
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| 20:04.36 | netstar | can apt merge from say an RC2 release to FINAL without downloading packages, let's say RC3 became FINAL? |
| 20:05.24 | alad | you mean just bump the version number, but keep existing packages? do you have limited traffic or? |
| 20:05.54 | netstar | or |
| 20:06.01 | alad | or something else |
| 20:06.02 | greycat | No. |
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| 20:12.13 | lack-o-sleep | l |
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| 20:13.08 | karlpinc | netstar: At minimum you'd need a base-files (IIRC) package that contains the bumped version number. |
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| 20:14.26 | lack-o-sleep | every debian install I've tried (2-3?) has no options for trackpads, no way to configure via GUI. KDE and xfce both . |
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| 20:14.50 | greycat | karlpinc: I'm assuming he's talking about some application, let's call it foobar, and he has already installed package foobar version 1.0rc3 but now the upstream maintainer has declared that 1.0rc3 is actually 1.0 (no changes), and he wants apt-get to "install" foobar version 1.0 without downloading a whole new unchanged binary package. |
| 20:16.21 | chreuben | zykotick9: Thank you. :) |
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| 20:16.42 | greycat | Not only does apt-get NOT work like that, but when there's a security patch to some large package suite like Wesnoth, you have to re-download all of the extra music packages and everything. It's ridiculous. |
| 20:17.09 | greycat | You'd think that splitting off the music into separate packages would have been done specifically to AVOID redownloading unchanged songs, but no. |
| 20:17.24 | lack-o-sleep | default installs are borderline atrocious |
| 20:17.38 | lack-o-sleep | major diy |
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| 20:19.04 | acz32 | is there any good system monitors like top/htop but GUI? |
| 20:19.13 | acz32 | process monitors i mean |
| 20:20.23 | lack-o-sleep | this obsession by debian to release installs without trackpad support is bizarre |
| 20:20.53 | acz32 | synaptics is pretty well supported.. |
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| 20:21.22 | greycat | Is a trackpad the little rectangular area at the bottom of a laptop keyboard where you move your finger around to pretend you have a mouse? |
| 20:21.53 | acz32 | yes |
| 20:22.09 | greycat | Those are supported. They work just like a mouse. No config needed. |
| 20:22.29 | lack-o-sleep | 2-3 installs with diff window managers and all offer no trackpad support in GUI |
| 20:22.33 | CygniX | well, depend on the DE |
| 20:22.40 | CygniX | depends* |
| 20:22.41 | acz32 | ya, although debian doesn't enable tap to click by default for some reason |
| 20:22.54 | HicksD | movement works out the box, but tap to click doesn't |
| 20:22.56 | CutMeOwnThroat | greycat, that is such a neat description of a trackpad... should make a factoid from it :P |
| 20:22.59 | lack-o-sleep | acz32: that's it, and no way around it in gui |
| 20:23.10 | acz32 | synclient tapbutton1=1 |
| 20:23.12 | HicksD | The wiki has info on how to enable it though |
| 20:23.54 | acz32 | lack-o-sleep: well then saying debian offers no support isn't true if that's all you're talking about |
| 20:23.54 | lack-o-sleep | acz32: thanx, that worked :) |
| 20:24.12 | acz32 | welcome |
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| 20:24.37 | acz32 | and look into making it persistent because that is just for your current session |
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| 20:25.52 | lack-o-sleep | tapping works no, but cut-n-paste on and off, mostly the latter |
| 20:26.01 | lack-o-sleep | tapping works , but cut-n-paste on and off, mostly the latter |
| 20:27.04 | lack-o-sleep | worked coupla times and no more |
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| 20:28.02 | acz32 | cut and paste? how do you do that using the touchpad? |
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| 20:28.44 | lack-o-sleep | acz32: i don't, i've got robot maid doing it all for me |
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| 20:29.12 | acz32 | is that a package or a joke |
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| 20:29.39 | lack-o-sleep | acz32: that's when the bangladesh cyber-monkey for dollar-a-day is having time off |
| 20:30.52 | greycat | acz32: is "emulate middle button by pressing 1+3" still a thing? If so, you could do that. |
| 20:31.06 | lack-o-sleep | acz32: a package joke. An actual hardware humanoid tapping with what looks like metallic fingers tapping |
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| 20:32.37 | acz32 | greycat: well he could highlight some text and set three-finger tap to simulate middle click to paste i guess |
| 20:32.54 | chomwitt | hi. in jessie with iceweasel 31.6 catn play html5 video in internet |
| 20:33.16 | acz32 | but that's still not cut and paste, but copy and paste |
| 20:33.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | those thingies now detect how many fingers you use? |
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| 20:33.40 | greycat | "cut" would involve an application that has an editable text area or something, so it's not really a mouse-level thing |
| 20:34.08 | acz32 | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, i set mine to recognize one, two, or three finger taps |
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| 20:34.25 | acz32 | any one that uses synaptics driver can do that, which is most |
| 20:34.33 | jelly | chomwitt: people have complained about that before, can you try chromium instead? |
| 20:34.39 | lack-o-sleep | why not just do what other distros do that have it working out the box? |
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| 20:35.18 | acz32 | chomwitt: you can install the current icewease (38.x) from mozilla.debian.net |
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| 20:36.22 | chomwitt | jelly: i'd like to stick to iceweasel. i've set up many profiles with different configs for different job. |
| 20:36.26 | lack-o-sleep | instead of re-inventing the wheel |
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| 20:37.59 | chomwitt | acz32: i'll try as a last resort. i found a report about gstreamer library missing |
| 20:38.12 | lack-o-sleep | Is this a serius error? "E: There are problems and -yes was used without --force-yes" ? Is the install successful? |
| 20:38.22 | acz32 | they are not re-inventing the wheel. it is just disabled out of the box and the user can turn it on as easily as you did. |
| 20:38.43 | jelly | lack-o-sleep: the command wasn't completely successful, and there are details above |
| 20:39.05 | greycat | It's probably disabled by default because old fat-fingered geezers like me hate it when we're just trying to move the damned mouse pointer and it clicks by accident. |
| 20:39.13 | jelly | dpkg, tell lack-o-sleep about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 20:39.30 | lack-o-sleep | jelly: yes, there is a "WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!" |
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| 20:40.49 | jelly | lack-o-sleep: best paste the whole output and the actual command, and all the stuff dpkg mentions, if you want actual help. |
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| 20:41.40 | lack-o-sleep | jelly: ok, thanx, seems like somebody else is on the case already :) |
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| 20:44.19 | teclo- | hi I'm now using Cinnamon and I'm a bit lost... any tutorial/howto on how to setup sounds, screensaver, Exposé ? |
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| 20:46.36 | chomwitt | with gstreamer1.0-libav i managed to play html5 videos but i cant see a live-video from a newsite claiming its html5 |
| 20:46.51 | Equa | teclo: https://wiki.debian.org/SoundConfiguration. do apt-get install xscreensaver for screen saver |
| 20:46.56 | chomwitt | still in iceweasel 31.6 |
| 20:49.43 | GarethTh1Great | i just setup a chroot with debootstrap and bind-mounted /dev and /proc into it, and for some reason /dev/sda1 (my root device) got mounted at the root of my chroot |
| 20:49.53 | teclo- | Equa: thank you |
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| 20:52.44 | teclo- | what's the equivalent of kdesu in Cinnamon ? |
| 20:53.01 | Equa | teclo: gksu |
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| 20:53.51 | teclo- | Equa: indeed, thank you |
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| 20:54.27 | teclo- | but there's something weird, I'm doing gksu to another user to run iceweasel with flash, but it produces no sound... I did add the other user to the audio and video groups, however |
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| 20:55.19 | Equa | teclo: you shouldn't run iceweasel as admin |
| 20:55.43 | Equa | teclo: do su username to use a regular user instead |
| 20:56.24 | teclo- | Equa: I don't run it as root, I run it as user1 |
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| 20:56.38 | xantipos | how would I backport a package from jessie to wheezy? |
| 20:57.27 | Equa | teclo: are you able to get sound from any other user? do you have multiple sound cards? is the volume mute? |
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| 20:58.11 | Equa | xantipos: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 20:59.35 | xantipos | Equa: it's not in the backports repos, I want to make it |
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| 21:00.20 | teclo- | Equa: other users give sound |
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| 21:01.26 | Equa | xantipos: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
| 21:01.54 | Equa | teclo: if you just added the user to the group. you need to relog with the user to get access |
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| 21:02.36 | teclo- | Equa: did that already |
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| 21:04.44 | jhutchins | teclo-: I suspect the problem is that your primary user "owns" the DSP device, and the other user is locked out from using it. |
| 21:05.00 | jhutchins | teclo-: This is one of the ways the multi-user model breaks down for modern desktop use. |
| 21:06.25 | teclo- | jhutchins: well with KDE, it did work :) |
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| 21:09.15 | Equa | teclo: try to check the logs and see if any error occurs |
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| 21:10.52 | teclo- | Equa: ok, gonna do that |
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| 21:12.07 | teclo- | hmmm maybe is it pulseaudio ? |
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| 21:13.24 | teclo- | aaah now I thing I get it |
| 21:13.47 | teclo- | Failed to open cookie file '/home/user1/.config/pulse/cookie': Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type |
| 21:13.54 | jhutchins | teclo-: Share? |
| 21:14.10 | teclo- | think* |
| 21:14.27 | teclo- | apparently user1 doesn't have some cookie so pulseaudio doesn't start for user1 |
| 21:14.28 | jhutchins | teclo-: Yeah, I figured it was that kind of mechanism. |
| 21:14.32 | teclo- | it does start for my user though |
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| 21:14.58 | jhutchins | teclo-: Similar to how X creates ownership of a display with an MIT Magic Cookie. |
| 21:16.40 | teclo- | jhutchins: yes... and I can see since Debian 8.x that there's even a filesystem in /run for each connected luser |
| 21:17.46 | teclo- | what about screensavers in Cinnamon ? Are there builtin screensavers or do I need to run xscreensaver ? |
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| 21:18.30 | Equa | teclo: it should be in your menu after installation. |
| 21:20.10 | teclo- | Equa: ok, looking |
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| 21:23.07 | the-scrabi | sersn |
| 21:23.24 | the-scrabi | daniel du noch da? |
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| 21:31.32 | jhutchins | !de |
| 21:31.32 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
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| 21:54.08 | Phyks | hi, I am trying to install a debian from an ubuntu 13.10 (using a chroot) |
| 21:54.09 | dashs | upgrade to Deb 8: fixed systemd issues except have no tty or console display after the systemd log (no X on this system). |
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| 21:54.28 | Phyks | I cannot get grub to generate correct menu entry for the kernel (none found apparently) even if I have an initrd file in /boot |
| 21:54.35 | Phyks | do you have any idea? |
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| 21:56.03 | Equa | Phyks: run update-grub |
| 21:56.20 | Phyks | Equa: already did |
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| 21:56.25 | Phyks | and update-initramfs as well |
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| 21:57.51 | koken | @all how to make a new partition root/the bootable option |
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| 21:58.50 | Equa | phyks: do you have vmlinuz and initrd.img in /boot ? |
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| 22:00.05 | Phyks | Equa: I have initrd.img-{version} and no vmlinuz |
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| 22:02.30 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:04.34 | Equa | phyks: try apt-get install linux-image-(version) |
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| 22:04.39 | Phyks | already done |
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| 22:04.45 | Phyks | (multiple times and purge / install) |
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| 22:07.40 | Phyks | Equa: ok, got it working, but I have no idea of what happened⦠|
| 22:07.43 | Phyks | Equa: thanks :) |
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| 22:08.27 | Equa | physks: no problem |
| 22:08.38 | Equa | Phyks: what did you do btw? |
| 22:08.46 | Phyks | no idea |
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| 22:08.53 | Phyks | try reinstalling everything once again |
| 22:09.00 | Phyks | but nothing different than the other times |
| 22:09.10 | alfiepates | hey all |
| 22:09.12 | Equa | physks: very odd |
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| 22:16.34 | koken | @all having trouble finding linux-image-amd64 package |
| 22:16.42 | koken | trying to install it via yum |
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| 22:16.54 | koken | for my new debian install |
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| 22:17.32 | koken | got it thanks |
| 22:17.48 | koken | kernel.x86_64 |
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| 22:21.54 | teraflop | yum? ^ |
| 22:22.16 | srg | lol |
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| 22:22.32 | srg | koken: debian doesn't use yum. |
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| 22:22.53 | Equa | he's on a different distro trying to install debian xd |
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| 22:26.04 | srg | fail2ban is failing |
| 22:26.15 | srg | I'm getting a lot in my logs that it should be blocking, but it's not. |
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| 22:30.11 | srg | http://pastebin.com/3JxHrvN7 |
| 22:30.20 | srg | testing it on an example postfix log entry. it doesn't detect it. |
| 22:30.52 | nadu | I'd like to mount a cifs share at boot |
| 22:31.06 | nadu | //path/to/share /mnt/backup cifs sec=ntlm,credentials=/usr/local/etc/backup.credentials,defaults 0 0 |
| 22:31.19 | nadu | doesn't mount it automatically |
| 22:31.21 | nadu | any ideas? |
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| 22:33.16 | WangDang_ | nadu: shouldn't that be /path/to/share rather than //path/to/share. Not sure if that would cause it to fail or what |
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| 22:34.16 | nadu | WangDang_: typing 'mount /mnt/backup' works |
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| 22:34.47 | nadu | it just isn't mounted automatically |
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| 22:37.22 | WangDang_ | fresh outa ideas then |
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| 22:37.53 | Equa | //server/share /pathto/mountpoint cifs credentials=/home/username/.smbcredentials,uid=shareuser,gid=sharegroup 0 0 |
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| 22:42.37 | nadu | Equa: doesn't work either |
| 22:42.55 | Equa | nadu: have you installed cifs-utils? |
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| 22:43.12 | nadu | yes :) |
| 22:44.06 | Equa | nadu: should be in the log to why it's failing to mount |
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| 22:49.33 | koken | hi all |
| 22:49.50 | koken | need help with debian install, just some questions. |
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| 22:50.25 | koken | i've got the kernel installed and everything as well as grub |
| 22:50.38 | koken | but now i have to install grub to a drive but my /dev is bare bones |
| 22:51.08 | koken | when i do lsblk lsblk: failed to access sysfs directory: /sys/dev/block: No such file or directory |
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| 22:51.23 | rabbitea1 | too many buts |
| 22:51.25 | nadu | Jun 23 00:40:51 systemname mount[199]: mount error: could not resolve address for <cifsservername>.: Unknown error |
| 22:51.45 | nadu | I will mount it with my backup script |
| 22:52.08 | nadu | I should check if the share is there anyway :) |
| 22:52.44 | koken | got it thanks! |
| 22:52.46 | Equa | change the server name to ip |
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| 22:53.26 | lack-o-sleep | To all my favorite geeks: thanx for being so cool...and the rest of the t-u-rds die in fire. |
| 22:53.29 | incal | when I start Iceweasel it says "(process:3437): GLib-CRITICAL **: g_slice_set_config: assertion 'sys_page_size == 0' failed" |
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| 22:54.38 | nadu | Equa: nah. I want to use IPv6 ;) |
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| 22:56.12 | Equa | nadu: take a look at this http://www.ipv6consultancy.com/ipv6blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/20070613_howto_ipv6_enable_linux_cifs_client.pdf |
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| 22:59.45 | nadu | Equa: mounting already works. it just can't resolve the hostname at boot. thanks anyway! interesting paper |
| 23:00.46 | rabbitea1 | see you when you put out yours |
| 23:00.59 | abrotman | rabbitea1: Please stop |
| 23:01.25 | Equa | nadu: add the nameserver ip to /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 23:06.41 | AuroraX | Hi. I am trying to redirect all tcp traffic on port 80 to 8090 with this command "iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port 8090", however I get this error message "iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.". First time using iptables and this is really a bad time to learn atm :'( |
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| 23:07.23 | abrotman | AuroraX: you'll probably get a bit better help in #netfilter |
| 23:07.36 | AuroraX | ok |
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| 23:09.45 | Equa | AuroraX: do tipables -A PREROUTING then the rest |
| 23:10.00 | Equa | *iptables |
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| 23:10.57 | AuroraX | Equa, gives the same error, with iptables -A PREROUTING |
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| 23:13.37 | Equa | AuroraX: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port yourport |
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| 23:55.25 | antiatom | I just did a fresh install and upgraded to sid and installed some packages... but now it says I am using 46G on / parition which is a LOT |
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| 23:56.08 | antiatom | Oh nvm it is .bitcoin |
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