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| 00:04.40 | srg | My cronjob isn't working: * * * * * /usr/bin/notify-send --expire-time=20000 "Eye Exercise" "Look away!" |
| 00:04.57 | srg | The notification works if I run it manually from a terminal, but not through my user crontab. |
| 00:05.08 | srg | I have other cronjobs that run in the same tab that work fine |
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| 00:07.00 | qman__ | srg: cron jobs run with a different environment than your standard login, are you sure it's not running and failing to work as expected? |
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| 00:08.51 | srg | Well I don't see any notifications popping up like when I run it manually |
| 00:09.06 | srg | I guess it ha to be the env |
| 00:09.32 | srg | the notify-send man page doesn't mention anything about env vars |
| 00:10.29 | qman__ | Also of note, cron has some special meaning for certain symbols, not sure if ! Is one of them |
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| 00:11.07 | qman__ | Best practice in my experience is to create a shell script and run that from cron, and include a PATH setting in your script |
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| 00:13.09 | qman__ | With that tool you probably also need extra variables or switches to tell it how to connect to your session |
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| 00:17.36 | srg | hmm, ok |
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| 01:56.31 | pipl | Hello what is the correct way to patch a debian control file ? I used quilt push -a; quilt new xyz; quilt edit debian/control; then refresh and pop -a; but it refused to work. |
| 01:56.36 | bostonkid | I created a debian logo: http://debian-art.org/content/show.php/Debian+Cigs?content=170476 |
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| 01:58.36 | Brigo | pipl, ask in #debian-mentor channel, in oftc network. |
| 01:59.06 | pipl | Brigo: ok thanks |
| 01:59.24 | Brigo | pipl, np :) |
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| 02:02.27 | Amarande | okay, exactly what is the trouble with hexchat on debian and default browsers? |
| 02:02.59 | Brigo | Amarande, i have no problem. |
| 02:03.02 | Amarande | cleared out my dot-directories, so basically started over from scratch as a fresh user profile |
| 02:03.20 | Amarande | and it's still insisting on using iceweasel when I say "launch url in default browser" |
| 02:03.26 | Brigo | what desktop environment are you using? |
| 02:03.30 | Amarande | on my other debian box it would always use chrome as the default browser, as wanted |
| 02:03.32 | Amarande | KDE, in both cases |
| 02:03.46 | Amarande | on the other machine I would be launched into chrome after setting chrome as the default browser |
| 02:03.53 | Brigo | Amarande, sorry, i have never used it. |
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| 02:04.08 | Amarande | but on this one, also jessie, I keep getting put into iceweasel instead of the default browser actually selected |
| 02:04.34 | Brigo | Amarande, it looks like as a kde issue. |
| 02:07.19 | Amarande | I've got two virtually identical debian installations, both on stable |
| 02:07.39 | Amarande | On one, chrome launches properly from hexchat, on the other, hexchat insists on using iceweasel |
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| 02:13.59 | Amarande | ugh, looks like it's some sort of basic issue with gvfs settings |
| 02:14.08 | Amarande | but why the bloody devil it works on one debian 8 machine and won't on the other |
| 02:14.16 | Amarande | and these two machines were setup within a month of each other, at that ... |
| 02:14.34 | maazu | Amarande: init.d vs. systemd ? |
| 02:14.36 | Amarande | and the manpage for gvfs-mime is clear as mud as to what I need to do to fix it |
| 02:15.17 | Amarande | maazu: both are systemd based ... both were installed with the normal installation options, selecting KDE for the desktop, the only difference in tasksel on this machine was I added the SSH server and did not on the other |
| 02:15.50 | maazu | :( |
| 02:16.34 | Amarande | when I tried gvfs-open manually on an http url, it also launched iceweasel, even though the default applications panel in KDE says google-chrome is selected |
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| 02:17.29 | Amarande | I suspect I may need to set google-chrome manually via gvfs-mime |
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| 02:17.44 | Amarande | however, I don't know the exact names of MIME types well enough to know exactly what I need to specify it as :| |
| 02:18.23 | wingman2 | ipmitool -H 10.0.0.188 -U root -P " " chassis power on |
| 02:18.29 | Amarande | bleh. |
| 02:18.32 | Amarande | what's the mime-type for web urls |
| 02:18.38 | Amarande | (and do you have to set it separately for http and https?) |
| 02:18.44 | wingman2 | gah again |
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| 02:22.23 | Amarande | oookay, gvfs-mime claims that CHROME is the default browser |
| 02:22.29 | Amarande | ... but gvfs-open launches iceweasel! |
| 02:22.32 | Amarande | what the :| |
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| 02:23.14 | Amarande | (also, is it related or just an oddball idiosyncrasy: on the Haswell machine I first installed Debian on, the KDE cursor is pink; on this machine, installing KDE from the same Debian version, the KDE cursor is brown ...) |
| 02:23.41 | Amarande | did the kde packages on jessie change significantly in the past month or so? |
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| 02:24.43 | Amarande | hmm, let's try nuking iceweasel altogether ... |
| 02:24.57 | Amarande | yup. |
| 02:25.04 | Amarande | delete iceweasel altogether and chrome launches just ducky |
| 02:25.05 | mo1991reg | what is a good alternative to kgpg for gnome? |
| 02:25.18 | Amarande | but I'm not at all sure what changed recently ... |
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| 02:32.29 | ^Mike | The debian installer includes a partition step, right? Will I also be able to set up full-disk encryption? |
| 02:33.17 | ap3r7ur3 | yes |
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| 02:33.56 | ^Mike | and in 8.1, are we using systemd by default? |
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| 02:35.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | ^Mike, yes |
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| 02:42.53 | ^Mike | ok, last thing before I start installing: Apparently I will have to turn off secure boot in the BIOS. What exactly does it protect? Will I be able to turn that back on after installing? |
| 02:43.20 | maazu | ^Mike: keep that switch off |
| 02:44.42 | ^Mike | shouldn't you be able to install signed kernels with secure boot on? |
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| 02:45.07 | maazu | yes, fedora distros do that |
| 02:45.24 | ^Mike | but debian doesn't? |
| 02:45.33 | maazu | ^Mike: however, GNU principles are in the way so don't want secure boot on |
| 02:45.49 | ^Mike | I understand all the words you used, but ... : |
| 02:45.52 | ^Mike | : |
| 02:46.06 | ^Mike | throws his keyboard in the ocean |
| 02:46.09 | maazu | a matter of principles |
| 02:47.12 | Amarande | secure boot doesn't really do much in the way of usefulness |
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| 02:47.26 | maazu | agrees with Amarande |
| 02:47.31 | Amarande | even on Windows, if you're infected to the point that the malware has the opportunity to attack the boot sector? |
| 02:47.39 | ^Mike | Why not? Isn't it an assurance that your bootloader or kernel hasn't been modified? |
| 02:47.47 | Amarande | chances are you probably need to boot that ubuntu live CD, back up what you can, and feed that hard drive a series of zeros |
| 02:48.01 | Amarande | because the OS is probably hopelessly owned as well |
| 02:48.22 | ^Mike | right, but there are other threat models where it is much more helpful |
| 02:49.00 | Amarande | there is also the fact that it prevents you from using non-stock kernels without a massive security dive |
| 02:49.17 | Amarande | think about it. if you ever need to compile your own kernel, and want to use secure boot, you need to sign your own kernel as well |
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| 02:49.34 | Amarande | assuming you don't have a second machine to do compiles on, that means your signing key has to be right there on the machine being secured |
| 02:49.35 | maazu | Amarande: can i add something technical? |
| 02:49.52 | Amarande | ... which basically makes your secure boot now only as secure as a passphrase and we know how good password security is :) |
| 02:49.54 | Amarande | maazu, sure :) |
| 02:50.15 | maazu | Amarande: the key is M$ and it costs $5 |
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| 02:50.33 | Amarande | maazu: I'm assuming in this case that you modify the UEFI's key store to accept your own key |
| 02:50.58 | Amarande | (which is supposed to always be an option, but is usually sadly more arcane than an entire course of education at Hogwarts) |
| 02:51.01 | maazu | Amarande: don't you want to boot UEFI with your custom build kernel? |
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| 02:51.34 | maazu | Amarande: cheaper to switch off secure boot :D |
| 02:51.46 | Amarande | maazu: in the case we're talking about, of course. but what I'm saying is, instead of buying MS's key, you've installed your *own* platform key on the UEFI |
| 02:51.51 | Amarande | (which is generally supposed to be allowed) |
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| 02:52.16 | maazu | not allowed for my notebook :( |
| 02:52.21 | Amarande | bah. guess this machine won't be able to have iceweasel on it at all |
| 02:52.26 | Amarande | not even as an alternative |
| 02:52.30 | Amarande | it refuses to behave properly |
| 02:52.47 | Amarande | and I still have not the slightest idea as to why it won't work right on kushiel, because it behaved just fine on naamah |
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| 02:53.55 | Amarande | maazu: what's more worrying is this 'optional secure boot' policy Microsoft is putting forth with Windows 10 |
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| 02:54.41 | Amarande | as in, how hard it's going to get to find computers, especially laptops (somehow I doubt they'll do it much on whitebox motherboards, and worst case I guess we get to buy C-series boards for Intel builds, since they'd NEVER lock out a server board that way) that will allow secure boot to be turned off at all |
| 02:54.44 | maazu | wiser in staying with Win8 |
| 02:55.00 | Amarande | maazu: it's not a Windows requirement, it's an OEM certification rules change |
| 02:55.33 | Amarande | far as I know, even Win10 still installs fine even with legacy boot, let alone what secure boot is set to in the UEFI case |
| 02:55.57 | Amarande | but OEMs will actually be allowed (not required, but allowed) to sell x86 boxen with a non-disablable secure boot |
| 02:56.07 | Amarande | nobody seems to know how prevalent this will probably be, though |
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| 02:56.44 | Amarande | presently, the rule is that secure boot has to be on out of the box (for OEM machines certified for win8), but can't be locked so you can't turn it off |
| 02:57.25 | Amarande | (mind you, with the whole fast boot thing, even getting into the bios on many modern laptops is often an adventure as it is) |
| 02:59.10 | phibonacci | Hello. I wanted to create a service, using a script in /etc/init.d for qbittorrent-nox as described on their wiki (aimed to ubuntu). But the script always fails at `. /lib/lsb/init-functions` (no backquote) with : |
| 02:59.16 | phibonacci | > [....] Starting qbittorrent (via systemctl): qbittorrent.serviceFailed to start qbittorrent.service: Unit qbittorrent.service failed to load: No such file or directory. |
| 02:59.42 | phibonacci | Any idea ? |
| 03:00.10 | maazu | phibonacci: choose a systemd friendly alternative |
| 03:01.39 | phibonacci | That would have been convenient to be able to just use the official script. I'm not familiar with systemd, is it a full replacement ? |
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| 03:02.28 | maazu | my desktop environment is KDE and there is ktorrent that i can use |
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| 03:05.49 | otirc | hey guys, is it normal to have a guest-... in /etc/passwd |
| 03:05.56 | phibonacci | The script can be found here: http://tinyurl.com/tuto-qbt-nox . `. /lib/lsb/init-functions` must be needing something more. |
| 03:07.22 | Amarande | phibonacci: systemd replaces the old school init |
| 03:08.20 | Amarande | the old school init is still available as sysvinit-core, but I'm not sure what if anything breaks in debian if you choose to install it instead of systemd |
| 03:08.21 | phibonacci | I bet I'll have to rewrite the whole script then ? |
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| 03:11.56 | circ-user-BZ2FA | Has anyone here installed Linux on a ChromeBook? Looking for feedback. What do you think? How does it run? etc. |
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| 03:21.57 | grant_ | I'm running Debian on my ASUS C200 right now. I haven't had a problem yet, it was very easy to do |
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| 03:41.49 | namoamitabuddha | I forget how to compile a package for my own. |
| 03:41.52 | namoamitabuddha | in Debian |
| 03:42.04 | namoamitabuddha | I want to install heimdall. |
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| 03:42.21 | namoamitabuddha | Any help? |
| 03:43.42 | namoamitabuddha | Okay, debuild. |
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| 03:44.53 | namoamitabuddha | Ah, no, maybe not that. |
| 03:45.57 | namoamitabuddha | checkinstall |
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| 04:20.14 | Rikairchy | so if I fork a project in git, how do I get it to resynch with the original repo? Basically refork it without deleting the current one |
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| 04:24.55 | Rusty1 | Rikairchy: you could try asking #git |
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| 04:25.44 | Rikairchy | that is true. |
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| 04:46.01 | Brun0L3z | Where can I find archived versions of google chrome on debian.? |
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| 04:53.48 | Brun0L3z | Can anyone tell me where old versions of google chrome are stored on linux? I forgot the directory name and location |
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| 05:53.06 | GlenLin | hey, I have a really old server with some VGA to PCI cards |
| 05:55.51 | GlenLin | trying to identify what the cards are. they don't properly identify ... they may be identifying as some sort of USB device, when I list pci devices |
| 05:56.19 | GlenLin | written on the cards is little VW_PCI4_VCE and: |
| 05:56.43 | GlenLin | IBOPCI4VIDPMPG4.0 with a serial number |
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| 06:00.47 | GlenLin | lots of the components are made by texas instruments |
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| 06:05.16 | Abbott | jelly the source I am getting plex from now uses systemd, If I add the source for the ubuntu package and do update, do you think it will leave the systemd stuff in tact? |
| 06:06.17 | Abbott | *do upgrade |
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| 06:26.50 | GlenLin | how do i update my list of pci devices? the "definitions" |
| 06:27.03 | GlenLin | so that debian will recognize more devices |
| 06:27.15 | GlenLin | i thought there was a way |
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| 06:28.20 | screamin2 | anyone ehere? |
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| 06:29.07 | screamin2 | ...? |
| 06:29.08 | GlenLin | yes |
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| 06:30.34 | screamin2 | haha irssi on raspberry pi works |
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| 06:31.41 | GlenLin | Tyan Computer Device 2676 -- is that my pci vga card? |
| 06:31.47 | screamin2 | would you know anything about crontabs? (haveing some difficulties with it on rbpi |
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| 06:39.37 | GlenLin | i have pci devices not being detected..... what do? |
| 06:39.52 | screamin2 | anyone know anything about crontabs on rbpi? |
| 06:44.19 | TJ- | GlenLin: first, use "lspci -nn" to get the [Vendor:Product] ID of the devices |
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| 06:46.02 | screamin2 | hey slag u havin ne issues with crontab? |
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| 06:49.29 | screamin2 | Officer on Deck |
| 06:49.44 | WilliamRiker | at ease |
| 06:50.08 | screamin2 | haha |
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| 06:53.30 | screamin2 | you wouldnt happer to know anything about crontab? ive got a bash script to change my wallpaper and wanted it to run hourly the script works but the cronjob wont run for some reason |
| 06:54.34 | valdyn | screamin2: the cronjob has no access to your X Session |
| 06:56.04 | screamin2 | how would i go about giveing it the access it needs? (i did chmod -x /the/file/in/question if thats what you are talking about) |
| 06:56.31 | valdyn | screamin2: dont do this in cron, modify the script to loop by itself and run it in X |
| 06:57.21 | valdyn | screamin2: like "while true; do <change wallpaper>; sleep 3600; done" |
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| 06:57.52 | screamin2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:58.50 | valdyn | screamin2: to work from cron it would need to do some fancy advanced stuff |
| 06:59.13 | valdyn | screamin2: and that fancy stuff would be a layering voilation anyway |
| 06:59.14 | CarlGel | screamin2 can you also check if your DE has a built-in changer? |
| 07:00.06 | screamin2 | nope im on a raspberry pi it is veeery weak os lol |
| 07:00.20 | CarlGel | rbp, fair enough |
| 07:00.38 | valdyn | screamin2: "apt-cache show cortina" |
| 07:01.26 | valdyn | ( though being a wallpaper changer *for* gnome that *also* uses qt its probably not going to be light in dependencies ) |
| 07:01.49 | Abbott | whenever I try to forward program display to Xming I get this: `PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol attemptedcould not open display` |
| 07:01.53 | Abbott | How can I fix this? |
| 07:02.43 | screamin2 | ok lol my little script would be way lighter the a packadge its literaly 5 lines |
| 07:02.52 | at0m|c | Abbott: check /etc/ssh/sshd_config for X11Forwarding yes |
| 07:03.09 | at0m|c | Abbott: then ssh -X host |
| 07:03.29 | valdyn | at0m|c: he is using putty |
| 07:04.07 | at0m|c | oh. memories from a long distant past. don't remember exactly. connection options. |
| 07:04.44 | screamin2 | #!/bin/bash ## Settings - Put your dir to your wallpaper folder here.. (like: /home/pi/Pictures/Wallpapers) |
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| 07:05.02 | screamin2 | dir='/home/pi/Downloads/walls'## Step one - Random File selection |
| 07:05.03 | screamin2 | file=`/bin/ls -1 "$dir" | sort --random-sort | head -1` |
| 07:05.18 | Abbott | it works when I run the specific program as non root |
| 07:05.24 | Abbott | I guess it was just a program thing |
| 07:05.30 | screamin2 | path=`readlink --canonicalize "$dir/$file"`## Step two - pushing result to pcmanfm (Which manages the wallpaper ^^) |
| 07:05.33 | screamin2 | pcmanfm --set-wallpaper="$path" |
| 07:05.45 | screamin2 | ## Step Three - exit |
| 07:05.52 | screamin2 | exit 0 |
| 07:06.17 | screamin2 | but im changing it a bit to loop |
| 07:07.00 | GlenLin | TJ-, lspci -nn does not detect the cards |
| 07:07.22 | GlenLin | the PCI cards are getting power (lights are on) but they don't show up with lspci |
| 07:07.43 | valdyn | GlenLin: if it is not in lspci then its broken or not properly plugged in |
| 07:07.46 | TJ- | GlenLin: Have you looked at the dmesg log to see if there's some problem with the PCI bus scan? |
| 07:08.08 | at0m|c | Abbott: first, consider if you really need to run the program as root. if you really do, if it won't do it without, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1584411/how-to-run-an-x-program-from-outside-the-x-session-e-g-from-the-console-or-ssh |
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| 07:09.29 | GlenLin | k, it is being detected as a usb device |
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| 07:10.41 | GlenLin | vendor 17c4 product-id 7010 |
| 07:10.48 | GlenLin | davinci based vce module |
| 07:11.03 | GlenLin | manufactured by ge security - visionwave |
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| 07:21.29 | Psy-Q | i'm having the craziest error with iceweasel, it won't let me change my github password: http://imgur.com/qUvqGvC |
| 07:22.08 | Psy-Q | everything else that i've tried works. what madness is this? it just pops up a little error and a little yellow thing. even in a private tab, so it's not the add-ons |
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| 07:22.47 | at0m|c | Psy-Q: no no-script blocking subdomains or so? |
| 07:23.10 | Psy-Q | at0m|c: hmm. would that work in private tabs? i will check |
| 07:23.15 | screamin2 | its might be a javascript issue |
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| 07:23.25 | at0m|c | ^ |
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| 07:23.46 | Psy-Q | screamin2: i talked to the github people and they say the errors i'm getting are e.g. for password length or when it doesn't contain the right characters. i'm just not seeing the text being rendered into the yellow thing |
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| 07:25.19 | Psy-Q | ah, i actually think some addons can still run in private tabs |
| 07:25.52 | screamin2 | huh thats weird you will want to put something like CaBa20!! as a pass that will work cuz it has uppercase lowercase numbers and symbols |
| 07:26.05 | Vainglory | i can't seem to get scp working. scp -P 10000 -r /etc/nginx/ vainglory@system:/home/vainglory/nginx/ - i'm trying to store the entire /etc/nginx/ folder in /home/vainglory/nginx :( |
| 07:26.06 | Psy-Q | screamin2: yes, i'm using randomly generated crap now |
| 07:26.07 | screamin2 | if what they say is whats wrong |
| 07:26.18 | Psy-Q | screamin2: that will let me save. but it's odd that the message won't appear |
| 07:26.18 | Vainglory | i get a Permission denied (publickey). lost connection |
| 07:26.26 | Psy-Q | i wonder if i broke my iceweasel config |
| 07:26.27 | screamin2 | lol i suggest lastpass if it works on linux |
| 07:26.38 | Psy-Q | screamin2: never would i put my passwords there :D i have keepass |
| 07:27.40 | at0m|c | Vainglory: before scp, try to ssh. ssh -v for verbose. vainglory@system needs rw access to /etc/nginx/ |
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| 07:28.12 | Vainglory | at0m|c: just so i get it right, do i need to put an ip where @system is? |
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| 07:28.30 | at0m|c | Vainglory ip or resolvable hostname |
| 07:28.32 | Vainglory | because @system is local |
| 07:28.40 | at0m|c | oh then why scp ? |
| 07:28.53 | Vainglory | because i'm connecting to a remote system |
| 07:28.54 | at0m|c | just cp will do |
| 07:29.04 | Vainglory | i'm already sshed into the system |
| 07:29.17 | at0m|c | no need to for scp |
| 07:29.19 | Vainglory | just trying to copy the directory over to the local system |
| 07:29.21 | at0m|c | it does the ssh for you |
| 07:29.28 | at0m|c | run scp locally |
| 07:29.40 | screamin2 | ok how do i stop a bash shell script? (i set a 30 second loop and it fefuses to stop) |
| 07:29.50 | Vainglory | well, i have a weird setup with public key / google auth 2fa |
| 07:29.56 | at0m|c | scp -P 10000 -r vainglory@system:/home/vainglory/nginx/ ~/ |
| 07:29.58 | Vainglory | maybe that's why or something? |
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| 07:30.19 | at0m|c | scp auth's exactly like ssh |
| 07:30.41 | Vainglory | at0m|c: that doesn't seem to have the nginx folder |
| 07:30.51 | Vainglory | the /etc/nginx/ |
| 07:30.56 | at0m|c | scp -P 10000 -r vainglory@system:/etc/nginx/ ~/ |
| 07:31.07 | at0m|c | with system being remote server |
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| 07:31.44 | at0m|c | take a quick look at man scp |
| 07:31.54 | Psy-Q | shit, it even bugs out in iceweasel's safe mode |
| 07:31.59 | Vainglory | i did and it made no sense to me, which is why i came in here |
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| 07:33.07 | at0m|c | Vainglory: does the remote user you're ssh'ing into have rw on /etc/nginx ? |
| 07:33.21 | screamin2 | sounds like you will have to reinstall iceweasl just sudo apt-get remove iceweasel then sudo apt-get install iceweasel |
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| 07:33.30 | Vainglory | no, i will need to su to another user and then sudo su to gain root |
| 07:34.09 | Vainglory | at0m|c: ^ |
| 07:34.11 | at0m|c | Vainglory: then on the remote machine, su and copy to your home then chown -R remoteuser:remoteuser ~/nginx |
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| 07:34.34 | screamin2 | psy-q^ |
| 07:35.01 | at0m|c | then scp -r -P 10000 remoteuser@server:/home/remoteuser/nginx ~/ |
| 07:35.11 | ctcpme | Vainglory: skip the local copy, just tar it on the remote system and pipe it over ssh |
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| 07:35.35 | Psy-Q | screamin2: i will try it in a kvm box with a fresh debian testing -- BUT: i have just also tried it with a new user. even with an empty iceweasel profile, i get the error |
| 07:35.59 | Psy-Q | screamin2: the purge and reinstall is a good idea, though i have the same symptoms on two other machines. i will try it now anyway |
| 07:36.07 | screamin2 | anyone know how to stop a bash script (ts annoying me i tested it on a 30 second loop |
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| 07:37.00 | ctcpme | Vainglory: assuming you can ssh from the server to your client at least |
| 07:37.06 | screamin2 | psy-q that is just weird it might b an iceweasel issue you might try makeing it use an earlier version |
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| 07:37.42 | Vainglory | ctcpme: no, i can't. but i got the files the copy and then scp way |
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| 07:37.49 | screamin2 | thatway it dosnt have that bug |
| 07:37.53 | Vainglory | thanks everyone |
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| 07:38.07 | Psy-Q | screamin2: yes, i tried 31.something and now 38.0.1, both have the problem. i will set up some exact steps to reproduce and hit bugs.debian.org |
| 07:38.27 | Psy-Q | but i'm also talking to aaron from github because he says it should work |
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| 07:39.02 | Psy-Q | curious: could someone here try to change their github password using iceweasel 38.0.1-5 in safe mode? |
| 07:39.14 | at0m|c | Psy-Q: unless you need to debug iceweasel, got another browser at hand? |
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| 07:39.22 | Psy-Q | at0m|c: yes, it works great with konqueror |
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| 07:39.48 | Psy-Q | at0m|c: i'd love to find out if this is something in iceweasel because it's my primary browser and if it's unreliable with something, i'd like to know :) |
| 07:40.20 | at0m|c | Psy-Q: i understand. i'd look at add-ons, but these are disabled in safe mode, right? |
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| 07:40.40 | Psy-Q | at0m|c: correct, i start with MOZILLA_DISABLE_PLUGINS=1 iceweasel -safe-mode |
| 07:40.50 | screamin2 | aye it wont stop changeing lol |
| 07:40.50 | Psy-Q | unless iceweasel's safe mode and DISABLE_PLUGINS is broken, of course |
| 07:41.07 | at0m|c | Psy-Q: easy to find out - about:addons |
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| 07:41.28 | Glore | Hi - which hardware can you recommend for a DMZ with a single device? |
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| 07:41.41 | Psy-Q | at0m|c: you are correct, sir :) they are disabled in safe mode and with MOZILLA_DISABLE_PLUGINS=1 |
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| 07:42.43 | at0m|c | Glore: and what do you expect the device in DMZ to do? honeypot? |
| 07:43.35 | Glore | at0m|c: I want to run a simple webserver and I don't want that the webserver is in the private network |
| 07:43.47 | Psy-Q | i'll go jump in a lake for an hour, i'll check the backlog here in case anyone's helping verify that iceweasel thing |
| 07:44.18 | at0m|c | Glore: i do that on a raspberry pi |
| 07:44.41 | at0m|c | i forward :80 :443, no need to dmz though |
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| 07:45.01 | at0m|c | but that depends on your hardware etc |
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| 07:45.54 | Glore | at0m|c: Yes, port forwarding. But what if the server is compromised? Then the private network has a problem |
| 07:46.28 | screamin2 | at0m|c how should i stop this script? |
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| 07:48.42 | at0m|c | Glore: https://www.grc.com/nat/nat.htm "There's nothing "separate" about the port hosting the special "DMZ" machine. It's on the internal LAN! " |
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| 07:51.24 | Psy-Q | screamin2: can you not find the script with ps auxw | grep and kill it? or pkill? |
| 07:51.52 | Psy-Q | i'm supposed to be swimming in a lake now, though |
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| 07:52.59 | bertro | is there a classification of packages by category, each package in there having documentation? |
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| 07:53.35 | GlenLin | anyone know how to get driver software for an obselete visiowave video->PCI card? |
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| 07:54.14 | Psy-Q | bertro: you mean other than the category listing at https://packages.debian.org/stable/ or the one you can get in synaptic? |
| 07:54.24 | bertro | GlenLin: lspci -v |
| 07:54.32 | bertro | look for it after you locate it |
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| 07:54.43 | bertro | Psy-Q: yes |
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| 07:55.09 | GlenLin | bertro, it is improperly being detected as a usb device, though when I type lsusb it just shows a blank instead of an ID |
| 07:55.18 | bertro | oh |
| 07:55.23 | GlenLin | i found out the name of the card through dmesg |
| 07:55.31 | bertro | lsusb then |
| 07:55.48 | bertro | i've had similar issues.. some card could be implemented with some usb bus.. |
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| 07:55.56 | bertro | is it a laptop? |
| 07:56.20 | screamin2 | ok i finished the script tested it with sleep 30 and it wont stop help |
| 07:56.23 | Psy-Q | bertro: i only know about the section lists on packages.debian.org and the ones apt manages, but not how to get to them programmatically if that's what you need |
| 07:56.37 | GlenLin | bertro, it's a server from 2003 |
| 07:56.44 | Psy-Q | screamin2: just ctrl-c in the terminal where it's running, doesn't that work? or is it in the background? |
| 07:57.08 | bertro | GlenLin: is it in reach.. can you open it up and check what really is there.. |
| 07:57.20 | screamin2 | its in the background i made an executable with leafpad so it could start on startup |
| 07:57.24 | bertro | Psy-Q: the latter yes.. |
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| 07:57.59 | bertro | GlenLin: what distribution/version is it using |
| 07:58.02 | screamin2 | #/bin/bash |
| 07:58.03 | screamin2 | while [ true ] |
| 07:58.03 | screamin2 | do |
| 07:58.03 | screamin2 | ## Settings - Put your dir to your wallpaper folder here.. (like: /home/pi/Pictures/Wallpapers) |
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| 07:58.35 | screamin2 | lol oops |
| 07:58.44 | Psy-Q | screamin2: ps x | grep name |
| 07:58.59 | bertro | Psy-Q: the idea is linking with some `.so`s |
| 07:59.33 | screamin2 | grep? did i miss something? |
| 07:59.35 | Psy-Q | screamin2: with the name of your script, then kill it with "kill pid" (where pid is the first number you see after you run the grep). if no number appears, the script isn't running, at least not under that name |
| 07:59.43 | screamin2 | o ok |
| 08:00.30 | GlenLin | bertro, I'm running debian....3.16.7 kernel. here is the server http://www.asmag.com/product_detail.aspx?modv=1003&id=374 |
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| 08:03.09 | Psy-Q | bertro: hmm, i wouldn't know :| |
| 08:04.34 | rhizome | is there a dpkg option that will show what pkg requires a specific pkg as a dependency? trying to track down why a certain pkg was installed |
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| 08:05.14 | rhizome | apt-cache, hmm |
| 08:05.46 | jelly | rhizome: aptitude why packagename |
| 08:07.01 | rhizome | nice one, thanks |
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| 08:09.23 | screamin2 | thanx psy-q everything seems 2 be in order haha now to get more wallpapers hahaha |
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| 08:12.22 | at0m|c | <screamin2> nope im on a raspberry pi it is veeery weak os lol |
| 08:12.28 | at0m|c | too much RAM? :p |
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| 08:19.11 | screamin2 | nowhere near enough ram im looking into a way to link 8 b+s together so i would have 4 gbs of ram now that would b nice |
| 08:19.33 | screamin2 | at0|c ^ |
| 08:20.05 | screamin2 | at0m|c ^^ |
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| 08:21.32 | screamin2 | but would you hav any idea of a decently fast (maybe netsurf fast |
| 08:21.56 | screamin2 | )web browser (or a way to speed up midori/chromium) |
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| 08:23.43 | screamin2 | for rbp that is |
| 08:23.45 | at0m|c | screamin2: wallpapers aren't RAM savers |
| 08:25.03 | screamin2 | lol i know but i like them lol |
| 08:25.26 | screamin2 | but my script is light on ram |
| 08:25.47 | at0m|c | screamin2: links is a lightweight UI browser |
| 08:25.54 | at0m|c | yes script is, wallpaper isn't |
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| 08:26.10 | screamin2 | its just a picture lol |
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| 08:27.32 | jelly | screamin2: a picture with 24bit depth and full-hd resolution eats 6-8MB RAM |
| 08:28.04 | screamin2 | wow thats a little insane |
| 08:28.13 | jelly | no, that's math |
| 08:28.27 | jelly | 3 bytes * 1920 * 1080 |
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| 08:28.40 | jelly | (and it's really 4 bytes per pixel usually) |
| 08:29.17 | screamin2 | lol im useing 800 * 600 i dont see much of a difference when useing the sdtv cable (zune cable) |
| 08:29.58 | at0m|c | that's 2% of your pi's RAM permanently wasted. my webserver uses less. |
| 08:30.47 | screamin2 | lol another reason to link up 8 pis then it would be neglectable |
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| 08:31.42 | screamin2 | but would it be practical? |
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| 08:34.53 | at0m|c | better get a quad atom or so micro/mini-atx then. |
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| 08:37.20 | screamin2 | well g2g 4 the night tyvm the help and opinions will keep in mind |
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| 08:45.41 | GlenLin | excuse me, I have a a #debian related support question: * #debian-offtopic :Cannot send to channel |
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| 08:46.24 | hejux | hello wonder why rsync --delete-exclued does not work with this sample that everybody can do: mkdir test ; rsync -aPRh ~/.* test > /dev/null ; ls test/*/*/.ssh ; sleep 3 ; rsync -aPRh --exclude="$HOME/.ssh" --delete --delete-excluded ~/.* test > /dev/null ; ls test/*/*/.ssh |
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| 08:47.06 | jelly | GlenLin: that's a #debian-ops question, not a #debian question |
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| 08:49.26 | hejux | hha |
| 08:49.31 | hejux | sigh! |
| 08:49.41 | hejux | there is no people in that room |
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| 08:51.38 | jelly | hejux: do you have a debian support question? |
| 08:52.20 | petn-randall | jelly: He does, see his first message. |
| 08:52.39 | jelly | ooh. |
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| 08:53.44 | jelly | petn-randall: now let me see whether that deletes user's files or not :-) |
| 08:53.51 | petn-randall | hejux: Are you sure you're properly excluding it? If you delete .ssh manually on the destination, an run rsync again, I'm guessing it'll pop up again. |
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| 08:54.54 | no_gravity | In Debian, is there a way to easily map CTRL to something that is easier to reach? |
| 08:56.05 | no_gravity | for example "holding space" would make a really easy to reach CTRL. |
| 08:56.34 | jelly | no_gravity: setxkbmap -options ctrl:nocaps makes caps lock an additional Control |
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| 08:56.46 | jelly | do you need it to be sticky? |
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| 08:57.43 | no_gravity | jelly: i already mapped caps lock to escape |
| 08:58.15 | no_gravity | jelly: also i can only reach caps lock with my left hand. but often i need to do CTRL with my right hand. |
| 08:58.29 | jelly | no_gravity: everyone knows the correct place for Escape is left of "1" ! |
| 08:58.42 | no_gravity | jelly: too far from the home row |
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| 08:59.16 | jelly | no_gravity: ask in #xorg maybe |
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| 08:59.27 | petn-randall | Isn't left of "1" reserved for the button that brings down a terminal? |
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| 09:02.04 | jelly | hejux: what use is -P then dumping all output to /dev/null? |
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| 09:03.19 | no_gravity | jelly: thanks, will try. |
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| 09:03.41 | ctcpme | the only right answer here is a sun keyboard |
| 09:03.44 | ctcpme | sun layout master race |
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| 09:05.01 | jelly | ctcpme: dunno, type 5 or 6 keyboard make you stretch your fingers a lot to get to that Help key |
| 09:05.52 | ctcpme | :D that's the consequence of needing the help key |
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| 09:06.54 | no_gravity | looks like it's harder to do the hold-space->ctrl thing then i expected. |
| 09:07.02 | no_gravity | xkcd even made a comic about it: https://xkcd.com/1172/ |
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| 09:08.35 | jelly | hejux: try looking at the actual output first. On jessie , the first "rsync -aPRh ~/.* test" says found ".." dir in relative path: /home/testuser/.. \n rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at flist.c(2232) [sender=3.1.1] |
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| 09:40.42 | oo_miguel | what packages do I need, If I want to be able to step into c++ / c library calls, during debugging? |
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| 09:43.04 | oo_miguel | ah I already have it, libstdc++-XX-dev it seems |
| 09:43.29 | oo_miguel | and libc6-dev. |
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| 09:57.16 | allizom | linuxd: this should be a starting point: https://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch09.html#pcipassthrough |
| 09:57.49 | linuxd | allizom: ok,thanx a lot |
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| 10:14.43 | Utils | What does it mean if a process used 33.3% memory, but despite it "actually" using less, ps aux | less still says 33.3%? Perhaps the process increased it's maximum memory? idk... but I know that the memory actually used does decrease. |
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| 10:18.45 | kqr | hello awesome people! I'm having some weird trouble with my debian jessie. I was just using it normally when suddenly it stopped responding. I turned it off through the physical button, and when I turned it on again it seems Xorg crashes when I try to log in. I can start X manually with something like "startx xterm" but when I log in from the login window it just goes black, I see a short flash of TTY (I |
| 10:18.46 | kqr | think) and then I'm back at the login window. I've tried commenting out everything in my .xsession file and just keeping "exec /usr/bin/xterm" but the same thing happens. anyone know what it could be about? |
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| 10:19.56 | kqr | (I just tried changing from "system default" to "gnome" in the log in window and the same thing happens when I log in) |
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| 10:36.33 | kqr | I've tried looking for logs, but the ones I've found (in /var/logs/Xorg.?.log) say nothing noteworthy |
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| 10:37.46 | kqr | well, the last line is "server terminated successfully" but not why |
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| 10:39.38 | Brigo | kqr, what display manager are you using? |
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| 10:40.52 | kqr | Brigo, gdm3 |
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| 10:41.26 | kqr | (not any particularly conscious decision. it is what was automatically installed) |
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| 10:41.37 | jelly | Luke-Jr: can you pastebin the complete headers of one such spam? |
| 10:41.48 | Brigo | kqr, i think somehow it is misconfigured. |
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| 10:42.21 | Brigo | kqr, are you using the default gnome install? |
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| 10:42.43 | jelly | Luke-Jr: it might be a fake sender address, or you might be a debian developer or maintainer getting real mail from buildd infrastructure for some reason |
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| 10:43.09 | kqr | Brigo, that would make sense. I'm not primarily using the default gnome install. it's there, but I usually go by my .xsession which is an xmonad-based setup |
| 10:43.31 | kqr | Brigo, do you have any idea on how I could reset the gdm configuration? |
| 10:43.38 | Brigo | kqr, so you stopped gdm3? |
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| 10:44.41 | kqr | Brigo, i'm unsure of what the question means |
| 10:45.20 | Brigo | is gdm3 running as usual? |
| 10:45.34 | kqr | yes |
| 10:46.03 | kqr | gdm3 looks like it always has. it's once I've successfully logged in that the screen flashes black and then I'm back at the gdm3 window again |
| 10:46.25 | kqr | by "successfully logged in" i mean it's recognised my password |
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| 10:47.02 | Brigo | i think gdm3 don't care about .xsession file, not sure. |
| 10:47.55 | kqr | it has so far |
| 10:47.56 | teraflops | Brigo: it does care |
| 10:48.28 | kqr | this stuff has worked for many months, it was just now it stopped working for some reason |
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| 10:48.39 | Brigo | kqr, then try to move the .xsession and try without it. |
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| 10:48.47 | teraflops | Brigo: it pulls from .xsession, lighttdm too |
| 10:48.59 | teraflops | lightdm* |
| 10:49.14 | Brigo | kqr, you should check logs, with systemd, journalctl -b |
| 10:49.31 | kqr | Brigo, tried removing .xsession, does not help |
| 10:49.51 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Stop lawyyer boyer boyer boyer and you know its football is a futball game. Nothing but thing but the Jaguars, Cornbucklers. Buck cornhusk. Husk Husk, cornbuck buckers, Cornbuck cornbucklers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-football is they go bored, makes me say oh my lord, what football. |
| 10:49.58 | Brigo | kqr, then check logs. |
| 10:49.58 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Nothing but the world cares about a group of the football is the worst sport events on television. College football game, it's no lie it's a football game! It's a football. No one in most people are runna ma naes. It is on television. |
| 10:50.01 | ikonia | not this guy again |
| 10:50.06 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | game! It sucks ten regular football game, so bored, makes me, so bored, makes me, it's about football. |
| 10:50.13 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Nothing prime but football and than regular football players. Buck buckers, Cornbucklers. Buck cornbucklers. Nothing worst sport ever. The worst sport ever. notch, and that's a fucker game! It's no lie it's a futball game. With more teams thing but this garbage here. It is the worst sport everything but the worst sport ever shown on television. Nothing but this stupid football. With more teams |
| 10:50.16 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | this stupid football is a fucker game it's a footbal game. It is a lynx game. Lowers ram against each other, the football. No! |
| 10:50.20 | ikonia | you've just done this spam routine elsewhere and got banned |
| 10:50.21 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | The worst sport events on television. Nothings ever shown on television is this garbage here. I'm swearing. Most of the worse this stupid foot ball game. When August approaches, and other, the worst the Super Bowl, ever shown on television. Nothing prime but as watch. |
| 10:50.21 | ikonia | what do you expect to happen here |
| 10:50.26 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | It is a lynx game. It is a Jaguar game. Lowers ram against each other, the football. No! |
| 10:50.28 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Nothing prime but this garbage here. It is a football game it's a fuckers, Cornfuckers, Cornbucklers. It's about football game, it's a footbal game! It's a soccer game. When he foot ball game! Raa Lynx game, it's about football is college football game, so bored, makes me say oh my eye queue one in most of the Super Bowl, ever moyer royer boyer royer and football or long Saturday afternoons. |
| 10:50.29 | ikonia | !ops |
| 10:50.29 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 10:50.30 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | It's a lynx game, it's a futball game. No one notch, and other, the worst thing but football game, it's a football players ram against each other everythings ever. nothing world cares about a group of the worst sport ever shown on television is this stupid football game. |
| 10:50.35 | Brigo | !opts n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 fludding |
| 10:50.36 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Football players. It sucks, and that's a soccer game, it's a footbal game it's a soccer games, uh, I cover shown on television. |
| 10:50.43 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | me! Raa Lynx game. |
| 10:50.49 | ikonia | dpkg: ops n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 network wide spam |
| 10:50.50 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ikonia complains about: n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 network wide spam |
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| 10:50.51 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Football game! It is thing paint dry. Lowers ram against each other, the Super Bowl, ever made. It's a soccer game it's a lynx game. I'm swearing. Most of brucesht, boyer football is on television is one of the worse this garbage here. Lynx games, and football players. Rum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-dum-football game. Lynx games, uh, I can't watch. |
| 10:50.58 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Nothing on television. |
| 10:51.06 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Cowboys, Ravens, Cornfucker game. I'm swearing. Most people are runna ma naes. Nothing but football is garbage here. Lynx game it's a soccer game! Raa Lynx game it's no lie it's a soccer game, it's a football makes me say oh my lord, what is this garbage here. It's a futball is college football. |
| 10:51.13 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Nothing but the worse that football or long Saturday after the Jaguars, Cornfuckers, Cornfuckers, Cornbuck. Husk, cornhusk. Husk, cornhuskers, Cornbuck. Husk, cornbucklers. It is they go boyer football game. It's a soccer game. It's a lynx game, it's a futball game. It sucks ten regular football game. It's a soccer game, it's a soccer game. |
| 10:51.21 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Footbal game. It's no lie it's a soccer game, it's a futball game. |
| 10:51.28 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | Football. Afternoons. Buck bucklers. |
| 10:51.36 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | It's about a group of brucesht! The one nothing but this good. When August appro |
| 10:51.45 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | eople are runna ma naes. |
| 10:51.51 | n8`7ewb_er^t\5^7 | It's a football and other, the worst sport everything but thing on television is this stupid football and that foot ball makes me say oh my eyes it sucks, and other, the Jaguars, Cornfuckers, Cornbucklers. |
| 10:51.57 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ |
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| 10:52.08 | Brigo | thanks jelly :) |
| 10:52.48 | jelly | ikonia: don't argue with spammers in public, next time just call !ops |
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| 10:55.02 | kqr | Brigo, journalctl says "no journal files found" |
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| 10:55.32 | Brigo | kqr, weird. Then check /var/log/syslog |
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| 10:55.58 | kqr | ah my fault. journalctl wanted sudo |
| 10:56.08 | kqr | now I have lots of logs |
| 10:56.10 | teraflops | kqr: then as root or add your user to the journal group (if youre in systemd) |
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| 10:59.29 | kqr | l'm not finding anything obviously wrong in these logs |
| 10:59.59 | kqr | maybe this (sec) |
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| 11:02.00 | kqr | Jun 27 12:56:26 vigilance gdm3[3979]: gdm_settings_get_value: assertion 'GDM_IS_SETTINGS (settings)' failed |
| 11:02.06 | kqr | that is coloured red |
| 11:02.08 | kqr | as if it was important |
| 11:02.16 | kqr | but from a cursory google search it seems normal |
| 11:02.30 | Lewoco | Why doesn't this show all orphans?: aptitude search '~i !~R~i' |
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| 11:04.33 | Lewoco | Many of the packages that it lists are in fact dependencies of something installed even though I explicitly specified !~R~i ... |
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| 11:05.22 | Brigo | kqr, then i am clueless, try run gdm in debug mode. |
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| 11:06.08 | kqr | Brigo, how hard would it be to... try another display manager? |
| 11:06.19 | kqr | i'm not married to gdm by any means |
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| 11:06.44 | Brigo | kqr, just install it. I like lightdm. :) |
| 11:07.03 | teraflops | kqr: what gpu do you have? also did you upgrade the system recently? gdm is so picky with some video drivers |
| 11:07.44 | kqr | teraflops, no major upgrade... I just run apt-get upgrade every few days |
| 11:08.09 | Lewoco | Oh, it looks like ~R only matches 'depends' dependencies. |
| 11:08.17 | Brigo | kqr, stable? |
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| 11:08.30 | kqr | Brigo, jessie... which I guess is stable by now, yeah |
| 11:08.35 | Brigo | kqr, right. |
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| 11:09.30 | kqr | okay so... lightdm seems to work |
| 11:09.41 | kqr | except my terminal font looks odd |
| 11:09.53 | kqr | that's the only thing i've noticed that's "off" so far |
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| 11:09.56 | kqr | might be something unrelated |
| 11:10.12 | teraflops | kqr: just for troubleshooting, try to start the DE by startx, no session manager or trying other session manager e.g lightdm to see if it's gdm's fault |
| 11:10.23 | Preston_ | Hello, I am trying to build PythonQt libraries, but after I run make, I get error -> ... fatal error: qgl.h: No such file or directory #include <qgl.h> . I have OpenGL installed. |
| 11:10.24 | kqr | teraflops, I did try that, that worked reasonably well |
| 11:10.39 | kqr | teraflops, well, lightdm seems to work really well except that one weird font issue which might be unrelated |
| 11:10.48 | teraflops | kqr: what gpu? |
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| 11:11.01 | kqr | teraflops, how do I tell? probably some intel integrated stuff but not sure |
| 11:12.22 | teraflops | kqr: hmm, recent intel gpu? said core i3/5/7? |
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| 11:12.34 | kqr | teraflops, i5, I think |
| 11:12.55 | kqr | model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4510U CPU @ 2.00GHz |
| 11:12.59 | kqr | apparently |
| 11:13.00 | teraflops | kqr: that ones are fine |
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| 11:15.11 | teraflops | Preston_: perhaps you need the *-dev* package |
| 11:16.57 | kqr | well, since almost everything seems to work I'll just write it off as the gdm config getting corrupted somehow |
| 11:17.03 | kqr | thank you so much for your help, Brigo and teraflops |
| 11:17.10 | teraflops | kqr: np |
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| 11:17.22 | Preston_ | teraflops: I installed all the dev packages. |
| 11:18.09 | teraflops | Preston_: all? there are a bunch of dev packages :P |
| 11:18.46 | Preston_ | teraflops: mesa-common-dev |
| 11:19.14 | teraflops | Preston_: I do not know what are you compiling but im almost sure there is a Readme by there telling you about the deps you need in order to build it properly |
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| 11:19.41 | teraflops | Preston_: packages and *versions* |
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| 11:24.02 | Preston_ | teraflops: I can not find such dependecy list - https://github.com/wireload/PythonQt |
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| 11:26.29 | teraflops | Preston_: did you read http://pythonqt.sourceforge.net/Building.html ? |
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| 11:27.31 | themill | ,i libpythonqt2.1 |
| 11:27.32 | judd | Package libpythonqt2.1 (libs, optional) in jessie/amd64: Dynamic Python binding for the Qt framework - runtime. Version: 2.1.0~svn247-1; Size: 367.0k; Installed: 1773k; Homepage: http://pythonqt.sourceforge.net |
| 11:27.35 | themill | (just saying) |
| 11:27.36 | teraflops | whats wrong with sourceforge ublock says it is a spam site ... |
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| 11:32.02 | Preston_ | teraflops: I followed that. Changed the python version and all... but there is no PythonQtRoot, I assume it means root. |
| 11:32.05 | bertro | how to get the source of a given package? `apt-get source <pkg>` ? |
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| 11:33.13 | themill | bertro: yes |
| 11:33.26 | Preston_ | teraflops: I found, that the qgl.h library is in libqt4-opengl-dev so I installed that and it helped. But now, there is another problem. fatal error: qgraphicswebview.h: No such file or directory #include <qgraphicswebview.h> |
| 11:33.45 | themill | dpkg: tell bertro about deb-src |
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| 11:34.26 | themill | Preston_: if you really want to compile it rather than using the Debian packages, at least install the build-dependencies of the Debian packages and look at how the maintainer has compiled it. |
| 11:34.37 | teraflops | Preston_: welcome to the trial & error world of compilling things |
| 11:35.19 | bertro | themill: any other bots here that are useful? ;) |
| 11:35.32 | Psy-Q | teraflops: sourceforge has started sideloading advertisements with the Windows installers of abandoned FOSS projects, that's why some filter lists want nothing to do with them anymore |
| 11:35.44 | themill | !bots |
| 11:35.44 | dpkg | We have lots of bots around to help out with different things. dpkg (<dpkgbot>) and <judd> are the main two for factoids and package information; dselect (<dselectbot>) fills in for dpkg. There's also debhelper (flooding, moderating), apt, ... Most bots are also in #debian-bots if you can't use /msg to talk to them. Be nice to the bots though; they have feelings, bleed oil and let out the <magic smoke> when angry. |
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| 11:35.56 | teraflops | Psy-Q: oh, I see, thanks for the info |
| 11:36.05 | themill | Psy-Q: that's actually not true any more, thankfully |
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| 11:36.16 | Psy-Q | themill: yes, only for those projects who opt in on their own now |
| 11:36.25 | Psy-Q | but still, what a break of trust |
| 11:36.29 | themill | quite |
| 11:37.00 | bertro | themill: magnifique, thank you mate! |
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| 11:41.06 | Preston_ | themill: I just need it to work. You mean, that I can install it from repo with apt-get? |
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| 11:41.43 | themill | yes |
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| 11:43.05 | netstar | Hi, I'm looking to uninstall everything except those packages in base? Is there an easy way to do this? |
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| 11:45.09 | dutchfish | netstar, this is not an answer, but installing a base is just a few minutes |
| 11:45.46 | dutchfish | netstar, after a backup that is |
| 11:46.01 | themill | netstar: it's not actually a useful thing to do btw |
| 11:46.03 | themill | dpkg: tell netstar about uninstall everything |
| 11:46.54 | netstar | thanks |
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| 11:47.10 | Preston_ | themill: I found the package - libpythonqt2.1. How can I install only the dependencies? |
| 11:47.22 | themill | what do you mean? |
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| 11:48.36 | Preston_ | themill: I thought, that I can install the dependencies and then build the downloaded version. |
| 11:48.52 | themill | you'd want the build-dependencies not the dependencies then |
| 11:49.07 | themill | ,builddep pythonqt |
| 11:49.08 | judd | Package pythonqt in jessie -- Build-Depends: debhelper (>= 9), cmake, quilt (>= 0.46-7~), python-dev, qt4-qmake, libqt4-dev. |
| 11:49.31 | themill | note that you might also need the python3-dev package given that upstream seems to have done some py3 conversion work recently |
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| 11:55.39 | catuca | When I create files, the group is set to www-data. How did this get change? it should be catuca:catuca and not catuca:www-data. help? |
| 11:55.55 | valdyn | catuca: man chgrp |
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| 11:56.43 | catuca | valdyn: the group is automatically set to www-data upon creation |
| 11:56.51 | valdyn | catuca: sure , i know |
| 11:57.43 | themill | catuca: what did you do to make it catuca:www-data? |
| 11:57.44 | valdyn | catuca: the real question is why is your /var/www or whatever you use set to group www-data |
| 11:58.09 | catuca | themill: touch test.log |
| 11:58.17 | valdyn | catuca: or why does everyone break debians default secure setup by giving *anything* to www-data |
| 11:58.18 | catuca | valdyn: I am on my home directory not /var/www |
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| 11:58.32 | Skyrider | Anyone happen to know a open-source pastebin kind of tool that I can install on my own server? |
| 11:58.46 | themill | catuca: it wouldn't be group www-data without you having done something |
| 11:58.59 | themill | Skyrider: pnopaste is in the debian archive |
| 11:59.17 | catuca | themill: I am telling you...I created a log file inside of ~/.fluxbox called log. I did this: touch log |
| 11:59.30 | themill | catuca: and you must have done something prior to that |
| 11:59.31 | valdyn | catuca: what *else* did you do to break the groups? |
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| 11:59.44 | catuca | themill: it created it for owner catuca with group www-data |
| 11:59.45 | valdyn | sounds like his primary group is www-data, thats totally fucked |
| 11:59.56 | themill | perhaps by newgrp |
| 12:00.00 | valdyn | catuca: type "id", show us |
| 12:00.08 | Skyrider | Never heard of pnopaste before. |
| 12:00.40 | Skyrider | Any example? |
| 12:00.41 | catuca | valdyn: uid=1000(catuca) gid=33(www-data) groups=33(www-data) |
| 12:01.07 | valdyn | catuca: so you switched your group to www-data, and you didnt even notice that you did? |
| 12:01.23 | catuca | valdyn: ouch! |
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| 12:02.05 | valdyn | catuca: "grep catuca /etc/passwd" |
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| 12:03.44 | catuca | valdyn: catuca:x:1000:33:Thunder Man:/home/catuca:/bin/bash |
| 12:04.07 | valdyn | catuca: log out and back in, and everything should be ok |
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| 12:04.33 | catuca | valdyn: nope. I need to change my GID. I don't believe in magic. |
| 12:04.36 | valdyn | catuca: that means your gid in the output of "id" should be 1000(catuca) |
| 12:04.43 | valdyn | catuca: that is not magic |
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| 12:05.31 | valdyn | catuca: of course you can use newgrp again, but that does not at the same time verify the default after login |
| 12:05.34 | catuca | valdyn: gid of 33 = www-data |
| 12:05.43 | catuca | valdyn: my gid should be 1000 = catuca |
| 12:05.51 | valdyn | catuca: yes, after you log out and back in |
| 12:06.05 | catuca | valdyn: what??? |
| 12:06.08 | themill | (well, after you fix it first) |
| 12:06.13 | catuca | valdyn: lol |
| 12:06.14 | catuca | themill: yep |
| 12:06.17 | valdyn | catuca: uh, i misread, yea, you need to fix the grp first |
| 12:06.18 | catuca | themill: working on it now |
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| 12:09.22 | catuca | valdyn: also, no need to log out and back in. changes took effect immediatily |
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| 12:09.34 | catuca | usermod -g catuca catuca |
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| 12:11.02 | catuca | valdyn: thanks! |
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| 12:13.15 | valdyn | catuca: "find ~/ -group www-data" ( i mean, your inbox and more could be broken atm ) |
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| 12:16.21 | catuca | valdyn: very true...you might be right...I need to logout BRB |
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| 12:18.24 | catuca | valdyn: you were right...I had to logout... |
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| 12:19.26 | rmblrd21 | hello. iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner user_you_want_to_block -j REJECT blocks internet access for a specific user |
| 12:19.46 | rmblrd21 | so as this user ping for example is not possible |
| 12:20.56 | rmblrd21 | but this does not seem to work for wine. if this user starts firefox via wine, firefox does have internet access. It shouldn't have because the user's access is blocked via iptables |
| 12:21.10 | rmblrd21 | how's that working? something special about wineserver? |
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| 12:21.58 | catuca | valdyn: find . -group www-data -exec chgrp catuca {} \; |
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| 12:23.43 | catuca | valdyn: that fixes the home directory for catuca....any other files created outside of catuca's homedirectory with sudo should have been created with the root group instead, right? |
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| 12:33.10 | valdyn | catuca: yea |
| 12:35.01 | valdyn | catuca: there may still be broken files in /tmp and /run, but nothing a reboot doesnt fix, I think |
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| 12:40.16 | ayejoike | Wha is the Linux equivalent for 3D Ripper |
| 12:40.57 | a-l-e_ | i'm trying to update my debian testing by using aptitude: it wants to uninstall 50 packages due to unsatified dependencies... any idea what could be the cause (and how i can avoid uninstalling all those packages?) |
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| 12:41.24 | a-l-e_ | (sadly, i don't see a way to export the list of packages that aptitude wants to remove) |
| 12:41.30 | ayejoike | Where do you get information on how to find programs |
| 12:41.57 | a-l-e_ | ayejoike: google and wikipedia? |
| 12:42.55 | jelly | a-l-e_: which command are you using, safe-upgrade or full-upgrade? |
| 12:43.27 | a-l-e_ | i'm just doing a + on "upgradable packages" and then g... |
| 12:43.39 | jelly | oh, the UI |
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| 12:43.51 | a-l-e_ | well, yes, i like UIs :-) |
| 12:44.14 | jelly | a-l-e_: quit, run aptitude safe-upgrade, see if that happens again |
| 12:44.15 | a-l-e_ | jelly: what do you suggest i test? |
| 12:44.19 | a-l-e_ | a, ok |
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| 12:45.06 | a-l-e_ | jelly: looks better... i think i'll try a safe-upgrade from the command line and then check what the UI says... |
| 12:45.10 | a-l-e_ | thanks for the hint! |
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| 12:45.53 | ijuke | what about ogldump |
| 12:46.01 | ijuke | !google ogldump |
| 12:46.02 | jelly | a-l-e_: if that works, see what happens with full-upgrade |
| 12:46.04 | ijuke | ! Brucesht! The worst sport ever moyer boyer foot ball! Brucesht, boyer. notch, and that's a fucker game, it's a soccer game, so boyer coyer! Boyer football! Boyer royer! Boyer made. No! |
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| 12:46.08 | ijuke | The world cares about football. After the worse thing but as watching on during on during. Most people are runna ma naes. |
| 12:46.08 | ijuke | It's a football. Nothing prime but the Jaguars, Cornfuckers, Cornbuck fuck cornhuskers, Cowboys, Ravens, Cornhuskers, so they go brucesht boyer football game it's a football game, it's no lie it's a futball game, so the Jaguars, so boyer football game. It's a soccer game, it's a futball and rittered. Except when I cover moyer! Brucesht boyer royer moyer! Boyer! |
| 12:46.10 | ijuke | Stop lawyyer made. Lynx game, so bored, makes me say oh my eyes it sucks ten rears. |
| 12:46.12 | a-l-e_ | (or i'll try a full-upgrade and have better oversight on what's happenign) |
| 12:46.18 | ijuke | Juni Jonn Joans Football game. It's a soccer game, so the Nebraska Cornhusk. Fuck cornhuskers, Cornhusk. Husk, cornhusk. Husk, cornhuskers, so the worst sport events on during. Most people are runna ma naes. It is college football is the Jaguars, Cornhuskers, Cornbucklers. Rum-dum-dum-dum-football. Nothing on television is the Jaguars, so the worse they shown on during worst sport everything |
| 12:46.28 | nezZario | Hey, what's a terminal that supports more ansi escape sequences like font 0-9, fraktur, etc? |
| 12:46.34 | ijuke | Nothing but this stupid football. Nothing on television is that's a fuck cornbucklers. Rum-dum-football makes me, it's a soccer game, so boyer my lord, what is the football is that is thing but they go brucesht, boyer moyer football. Nothing on television. No! |
| 12:46.37 | nezZario | whatever guake is using, does not use it |
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| 12:46.53 | ijuke | The worst sport ever moyer coyer! |
| 12:46.57 | hejux | jelly: sorry, i was offline. |
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| 12:47.10 | hejux | jelly: are you there? |
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| 12:47.20 | jelly | maybe! |
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| 12:47.40 | a-l-e_ | is safe-upgrading |
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| 12:47.50 | hejux | hello wonder why rsync --delete-exclued does not work with this sample that everybody can do: mkdir test ; rsync -aPRh ~/.* test > /dev/null ; ls test/*/*/.ssh ; sleep 3 ; rsync -aPRh --exclude="$HOME/.ssh" --delete --delete-excluded ~/.* test > /dev/null ; ls test/*/*/.ssh |
| 12:48.08 | hejux | so this was my question. |
| 12:48.34 | hejux | the first rsync, will cp ~/.ssh to ~/test |
| 12:49.15 | hejux | the second one, because i have --exclude and --delete-excluded, so the .ssh dir should be deleted from ~/test |
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| 12:49.35 | hejux | but actually, it was not deleted. |
| 12:50.05 | themill | I have to say that .* is rarely what you actually want for a glob |
| 12:50.10 | hejux | then i doubt am i using rsync on the right way? |
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| 12:50.32 | jelly | hejux: and I asked you why you did -P and /dev/null, and did you actually look at rsync's output |
| 12:50.38 | hejux | i have a lot of hidden files and dirs in ~/ i want to back them all. |
| 12:50.42 | nezZario | hejux, there is some really great guys over at #rsync -- I'm not telling your question is inappropriate for here but if you can wait on an answer they'll surely help you |
| 12:50.42 | hejux | backup them all |
| 12:51.05 | hejux | jelly: -P also include --partial, not just --progress |
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| 12:51.31 | hejux | i did > null because i want to compare the 2 ls command easily |
| 12:52.33 | jelly | hejux: On jessie , the first "rsync -aPRh ~/.* test" says for me: |
| 12:52.34 | jelly | found ".." dir in relative path: /home/testuser/.. |
| 12:52.34 | jelly | rsync error: syntax or usage error (code 1) at flist.c(2232) [sender=3.1.1] |
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| 12:53.00 | jelly | hejux: and it doesn't do anything. |
| 12:53.49 | jelly | hejux: so pretty please, look at the actual output of rsync for errors. |
| 12:54.08 | hejux | jelly: yes, you put them in a script? |
| 12:54.13 | jelly | nope |
| 12:54.37 | hejux | jelly: > null does not eat errors |
| 12:54.38 | hejux | :) |
| 12:55.12 | jelly | I remembered that and was checking whether you'd notice. O:-) |
| 12:55.22 | jelly | ... and that's the story I'm sticking to |
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| 12:55.55 | jelly | hejux: so which shell are you using that does not expand .. in .* ? |
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| 12:56.28 | hejux | jelly: i have no such error, but if i put my commands into a script , i will have such an error |
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| 12:56.50 | a-l-e_ | so, after safe-updating, this is the output of full-upgrade: |
| 12:56.51 | a-l-e_ | http://paste.debian.net/261872/ |
| 12:57.08 | hejux | jelly: i use zsh |
| 12:57.17 | hejux | okay, i'll try bash |
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| 12:58.02 | hejux | okay, bash has this issue. |
| 12:58.12 | hejux | zsh does not expand .. and . |
| 12:58.12 | jelly | hejux: surely you're not using zsh for scripts? |
| 12:58.33 | jelly | it's an excellent _interactive_ shell |
| 12:58.38 | hejux | jelly: i use zsh as a shell, but in my script i use #!/bin/bash |
| 12:59.03 | dutchfish | hejux, what gives `ls -la $(which sh)` ? |
| 12:59.03 | themill | a-l-e_: you might like to use «apt full-upgrade»; that looks like a pretty typical case where you want apt/apt-get and not aptitude |
| 12:59.33 | hejux | dutchfish: /bin/sh |
| 12:59.46 | dutchfish | hejux, which point to? |
| 12:59.47 | a-l-e_ | mmm... the problem seems to be "lignutls-deb28 conflicts with libnettle4"... |
| 12:59.56 | hejux | dutchfish: no point to |
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| 13:00.22 | dutchfish | hejux, on debian jessie it should have lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Nov 8 2014 /bin/sh -> dash |
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| 13:00.54 | hejux | dutchfish: sorry, it points to bash |
| 13:01.03 | a-l-e_ | ok, themill, i'll try with apt... |
| 13:01.07 | dutchfish | hejux, use dash ;) |
| 13:01.44 | hejux | okay, this is not a shell problem |
| 13:01.49 | jelly | dutchfish: dash has the same .* expansion as bash |
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| 13:02.06 | jelly | I'm just trying to reproduce the rsync behaviour |
| 13:02.18 | dutchfish | jelly, yes, but you can run into a miriad of other problems with rsync |
| 13:02.23 | catuca | valdyn: I just experienced the power of sudo! I guess..now I understand why I need it |
| 13:02.33 | a-l-e_ | well, themill, apt full-upgrade shows the seem problem... lot of packages being uninistalled... |
| 13:03.03 | hejux | im thinking that rsync's --delete-excluded does not work if --exclude has items listed in SOURCE, then the items will not be deleted in TARGET |
| 13:03.05 | dutchfish | jelly, i have my rsync scripts all done on dash |
| 13:03.21 | dutchfish | jelly, (since jessie) |
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| 13:04.04 | a-l-e_ | this is apt full-upgrade's output: |
| 13:04.09 | a-l-e_ | http://paste.debian.net/261873/ |
| 13:04.35 | dutchfish | jelly, are you on debian stable (jessie)? |
| 13:04.45 | dutchfish | oops that was for hejux |
| 13:05.09 | a-l-e_ | at least with apt's output i can keep the list of packages and reinstall them afterwards... |
| 13:05.12 | dutchfish | hejux, are you on debian stable (jessie)? |
| 13:05.22 | a-l-e_ | (ok, i cuold get them from aptitude's logs, too) |
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| 13:07.03 | hejux | dutchfish: i'm on gentoo |
| 13:07.30 | dutchfish | hejux, i dont know much about gentoo, but try to use what /bin/sh points too |
| 13:07.31 | themill | a-l-e_: there's fuss about libnettle4 recently. Can you remove that package? |
| 13:07.48 | jelly | hejux: in fact, if you reduce the second command to "rsync -aPRh /home/testuser/.ssh --exclude="/home/testuser/.ssh" --delete-excluded test", it doesn't do anything |
| 13:08.29 | hejux | jelly: yes, that's the issue |
| 13:08.39 | jelly | hejux: exclude works tho. If you manually rm -r test/home/*/.ssh, and run it again, it doesn't get copied either |
| 13:08.59 | hejux | jelly: exactly |
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| 13:09.07 | jelly | because excluding a directory doesn't let the contents be enumerated at all |
| 13:09.25 | jelly | I suspect --delete-excluded might only work with leaf files |
| 13:09.36 | hejux | im thinking that rsync's --delete-excluded does not work if --exclude has items listed in SOURCE, then the items will not be deleted in TARGET |
| 13:10.05 | hejux | jelly: it works in sub dir and files in sub dir |
| 13:10.11 | hejux | like ~/.ssh/xxx |
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| 13:13.20 | jelly | hejux: http://paste.debian.net/261884/ |
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| 13:14.50 | hejux | on your second rsync, nothing changed |
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| 13:14.52 | dutchfish | hejux, --delete-excluded will only and only then delete if a positive match occurs like in --exclude=*.bin --delete-excluded |
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| 13:15.35 | jelly | hejux: the directory doesn't get wiped. Contents, however, do, if that's what you explicitely exclude |
| 13:15.41 | a-l-e_ | themill: no, i cannot remove it... |
| 13:15.49 | a-l-e_ | ... well, i can, but it removes even more packages... |
| 13:16.16 | jelly | hejux: so maybe something like --exclude='.ssh/*' is good enough for you |
| 13:16.21 | hejux | jelly: it should delete .ssh right? |
| 13:16.34 | hejux | in theory |
| 13:16.44 | jelly | hejux: I don't know what it _should_ do, just showing what it actually does. |
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| 13:20.20 | hejux | jelly: this bothers me a lot, i wanted to backup ~/.* but i don't want some of them, maybe --exclude=~/.ssh/* works, but there is still .ssh dir in TARGET |
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| 13:22.38 | dutchfish | hejux, one more thingy that i wrestled with myself, --delete-excluded deletes from the destination, not form the source, and only those that matches the --excluded, wheter they excist in the source or not. |
| 13:22.39 | jelly | hejux: then don't back it up in the first place. Since you're using zsh already... http://superuser.com/questions/403616/how-do-i-correctly-negate-zsh-globbing-expressions |
| 13:22.59 | themill | a-l-e_: so then just "wait" |
| 13:23.19 | jelly | dutchfish: yeah, now read my last paste and see that's not what happens |
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| 13:23.48 | a-l-e_ | ok, themill |
| 13:23.54 | dutchfish | jelly, i just tested it again, and it works, on files but not on path's, just for the record. |
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| 13:25.13 | a-l-e_ | well, themill, i guess, yes... the problem is that, currently, my mail client crashes when trying to sending mails :-( |
| 13:25.14 | dutchfish | jelly, and not for jokers like *, i tested with *.bin and all *.bin (within that path) got deleted on the destination |
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| 13:25.26 | a-l-e_ | ok, thanks for your help! |
| 13:25.34 | ntz | hello |
| 13:25.35 | a-l-e_ | i will retry in a few days |
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| 13:26.19 | dutchfish | jelly, sorry for the noise |
| 13:26.22 | ntz | how do I in debian install really big list of packages ? some batches per-fifty or so ? in .rpm systems I usually create a rpm package with all those pkgs as deps |
| 13:26.44 | ntz | eg: cat pkg.list | xargs apt-get install -y |
| 13:26.55 | hejux | dutchfish: --exclude is working at the SOURCE ,not the TARGET |
| 13:26.56 | ntz | ^^ I don't think that it will work for 1000 arguments |
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| 13:27.21 | dutchfish | hejux, right, but --delete-excluded works on the DEST |
| 13:28.00 | themill | ntz: /msg dpkg aptitude clone; the second half is the bit you want |
| 13:28.51 | themill | ntz: it's also trivial to create your own package with a pile of dependencies in the same way if you want |
| 13:28.55 | ntz | themill: thanks, fair |
| 13:29.18 | ntz | themill: I know :D but I simply not going to learn to create .deb packages :D |
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| 13:30.46 | ntz | themill: just sidenode - I started on debian, I created in my life several .deb packages in past .... but I completely forgot how :P |
| 13:30.56 | hejux | dutchfish: then this bothers, because you can't assign a string to --exclude-deleted |
| 13:31.14 | dutchfish | hejux, so the whole sjebang means: make a copy, exclude foo and delete matched foo if excist on the destination |
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| 13:31.39 | dutchfish | hejux, correct |
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| 13:31.52 | hejux | this makes --exclude-deleted patially usesless |
| 13:31.58 | dutchfish | no |
| 13:32.30 | hejux | can you show me some code? |
| 13:32.51 | dutchfish | hejux, its ment to clean up the DEST, from files you dont want to backup anyway |
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| 13:33.13 | hejux | dutchfish: that's not automatic |
| 13:33.13 | dutchfish | hejux, but did in the past (as an example) |
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| 13:33.49 | dutchfish | hejux, this is how i understand it and use it |
| 13:33.51 | bijan_ | help I did an sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it installed nginx-common (1.9.1-1) unstable... now nginx won't start |
| 13:34.10 | hejux | dutchfish: with that method, --exclude-deleted is no needed |
| 13:34.14 | bijan_ | if I run ./etc/init.d/nginx status nothing is shown |
| 13:34.29 | bijan_ | as if there were no scripts anymore |
| 13:34.38 | bijan_ | same with nginx start / stop et |
| 13:34.40 | bijan_ | etc |
| 13:34.48 | dutchfish | hejux, depends, if you want the excluded files from the source stay on the target, then yes |
| 13:35.17 | dutchfish | hejux, like in father son setups |
| 13:35.37 | valdyn | bijan_: run "systemctl nginx status" |
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| 13:36.01 | valdyn | bijan_: reversed even: systemctl status nginx |
| 13:36.02 | hejux | yes, so as i said, this makes --delete-excluded will be PARTIALLY useless, it only works in leaf dirs . |
| 13:36.07 | bijan_ | Unknown operation 'nginx'. |
| 13:36.27 | bijan_ | valdyn: o_O did I just fuck up the system? |
| 13:36.35 | valdyn | bijan_: no |
| 13:36.39 | dutchfish | hejux, make that 'excluded leaf dirs' |
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| 13:36.59 | dutchfish | hejux, then yes |
| 13:37.14 | bijan_ | what might be wrong? |
| 13:37.28 | hejux | dutchfish: https://sanitarium.net/rsyncfaq/#nodelete |
| 13:37.32 | valdyn | bijan_: run "systemctl status nginx" |
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| 13:38.34 | valdyn | bijan_: "systemctl start nginx" |
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| 13:38.52 | bijan_ | it fails |
| 13:38.59 | bijan_ | (code=exited, status=203/EXEC) |
| 13:39.25 | valdyn | bijan_: lets see "apt-cache policy nginx" |
| 13:39.26 | bijan_ | seems to be quite common |
| 13:39.26 | bijan_ | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/204312/nginx-init-d-script |
| 13:39.39 | pbn | Hi there trying to install Debian 8.1 on a Proliant, the installer says it can't configure it through DHCP, and it fails too manually. However, SystemRescueCD configures it as enp3s0 .... |
| 13:40.12 | pbn | and SystemRescueCD configures it properlly with DHCP and manually |
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| 13:40.33 | dutchfish | hejux, completely correct also within my context |
| 13:40.40 | jelly | pbn: which proliant |
| 13:40.51 | pbn | jelly: Proliant DL380GH |
| 13:40.56 | pbn | jelly: Proliant DL380G5 * sorry |
| 13:40.59 | jelly | G8? |
| 13:40.59 | dutchfish | hejux, namely, the exception is --delete-excluded on the target |
| 13:41.11 | bijan_ | is dist-upgrade supposed to break stuff? |
| 13:41.22 | valdyn | bijan_: why are you not answering questions? |
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| 13:41.32 | jelly | pbn: you just need firmware-bnx2, do you have that? Simplest thing to do is use unofficial installer with firmware |
| 13:41.38 | jelly | !firmware images |
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| 13:41.38 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 13:41.40 | dutchfish | hejux, but within that context * does the opposit, since it IS the exception |
| 13:41.42 | jelly | pbn: ^^ |
| 13:41.48 | valdyn | bijan_: you are using sid - im sure you know that sid is regularily broken |
| 13:42.06 | valdyn | bijan_: and that part is entirely your problem |
| 13:42.15 | bijan_ | valdyn: okay... |
| 13:42.28 | valdyn | bijan_: so, what is "apt-cache policy nginx" showing? |
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| 13:42.43 | dutchfish | hejux, again, so the whole sjebang means: make a copy, exclude foo and delete matched foo if excist on the destination |
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| 13:42.50 | bijan_ | valdyn: https://gist.github.com/tschundeee/cd9839eada21fe36b5ac |
| 13:43.17 | dutchfish | hejux, (wheter it excists on the source or not) |
| 13:43.18 | valdyn | bijan_: great, now you know that nginx is not installed, so of course it wont work |
| 13:43.20 | pbn | jelly: ok thank you gonna try that :) |
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| 13:43.41 | Sonja | I am trying to set my WiFi up through cli but I keep finding wrong information |
| 13:43.44 | dutchfish | hejux, i know this is hairy stuff ;) |
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| 13:44.03 | valdyn | bijan_: I see only jessie, testing and dotdeb lines there, none of these are sid |
| 13:44.44 | bijan_ | valdyn: sorry I am totally confused |
| 13:45.05 | valdyn | bijan_: about what? about line 9 in your paste? |
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| 13:45.35 | bijan_ | valdyn: I am running Jessie |
| 13:45.52 | valdyn | bijan_: no, youre running a mix of jessie and testing |
| 13:46.04 | bijan_ | normaly things shouldn't break when upgrading jessie?! shouldn't they? I wanted to run this server in production |
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| 13:46.16 | dutchfish | hejux, to get a grisp, make a simple test where you exclude an file extension (within a path) and see if it gets deleted on the target |
| 13:46.31 | valdyn | bostonkid: line 13 sais you are using testing, thats not jessie, thats not suitable for production either |
| 13:46.37 | valdyn | bijan_: ^^ |
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| 13:47.26 | bijan_ | valdyn: do you have any advice how to "heal" this server and get it back to stable releases? |
| 13:47.31 | bijan_ | do I have to reinstall? |
| 13:47.38 | valdyn | bijan_: yea, probably |
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| 13:47.54 | valdyn | !dotdeb |
| 13:47.54 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
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| 13:48.11 | bijan_ | valdyn: I just installed mysql from dotdeb |
| 13:48.26 | valdyn | bijan_: we cant support dotdeb |
| 13:48.47 | bijan_ | valdyn: so my nginx might be installed from the dotdeb source? |
| 13:49.09 | valdyn | bijan_: no, the package nginx is *not* installed |
| 13:49.14 | valdyn | bijan_: read line 9 in your paste |
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| 13:50.01 | bijan_ | nginx-full : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.6.2-5) but 1.9.2-1 is to be installed |
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| 13:50.17 | bijan_ | okay I will remove the dotdeb lines |
| 13:50.27 | valdyn | bijan_: and the testing stuff too |
| 13:50.36 | rmblrd21 | hello. iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner user_you_want_to_block -j REJECT blocks internet access for a specific user |
| 13:50.41 | rmblrd21 | so as this user ping for example is not possible |
| 13:50.46 | rmblrd21 | but this does not seem to work for wine. if this user starts firefox via wine, firefox does have internet access. It shouldn't have because the user's access is blocked via iptables |
| 13:50.51 | rmblrd21 | how's that working? something special about wineserver? |
| 13:50.56 | bijan_ | valdyn: which file was it that I have to edit? sources.list or something? |
| 13:51.01 | valdyn | bijan_: either get some expertise to mix these repositories ( i dont care how ), or use plain stable/jessie, then you can get help here |
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| 13:51.17 | valdyn | bijan_: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 13:51.39 | bijan_ | valdyn: big thanks to you anyways! I am very grateful for your help :) |
| 13:52.42 | bijan_ | valdyn: which are the testing repos? jessie/updates ? |
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| 13:54.21 | RaitoBezarius | bijan_: stretch/updates if I recall |
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| 13:55.03 | bijan_ | this is how my sources.list looks like now: https://gist.github.com/tschundeee/a17e25b7c2bed414b135 |
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| 13:55.10 | bijan_ | is it okay for stable use? |
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| 13:56.27 | RaitoBezarius | bijan_: As Jessie is now stable, I think that it is okay. |
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| 13:57.03 | dutchfish | !stable |
| 13:57.03 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Jessie (8.1); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
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| 14:00.18 | bijan_ | okay so I don't have any testing packages as valdyn thought, right? (besides the mysql from dotdeb which works flawlessly) |
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| 14:01.00 | themill | (it might work on its own, but how about with other packages? how about when it comes to upgrades?) |
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| 14:02.05 | dutchfish | rmblrd21, there is not such thing as user ocntainers within that process space of that daemon, so anyone having access within that daemon will have the restriction you have setup for that daemon, not that user within that process. |
| 14:03.03 | bijan_ | apt-get autoremove and then apt-get install nginx fixed it after I removed the dotdeb repo |
| 14:03.28 | bijan_ | at least I don't have to reinstall the whole system |
| 14:03.32 | bijan_ | puuh :) |
| 14:03.35 | bijan_ | thx guys |
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| 14:14.14 | bijan_ | Is there a reason why MySQL is still on 5.5 branch in latest stable (8.1)? |
| 14:14.33 | bijan_ | mysqls current stable release is 5.6.25 |
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| 14:15.05 | themill | just because mysql releases a new version doesn't mean that everything else in the world compiles against the new version |
| 14:15.11 | jelly | bijan_: yes. That choice was made at version freeze time. |
| 14:15.14 | jelly | !freeze |
| 14:15.14 | dpkg | The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'. Jessie was frozen on November 5, 2014. Also ask me about <slushy>, <jessie freeze>. |
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| 14:15.40 | linuxd | where to get Virtualbox Extension Pack 4.3.18 Debian? |
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| 14:17.28 | bijan_ | jelly: okay.. |
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| 14:18.12 | bijan_ | mysql 5.6 is stable since 2013 |
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| 14:18.34 | bijan_ | http://dev.mysql.com/doc/relnotes/mysql/5.6/en/ |
| 14:18.54 | themill | sure, doesn't mean it was ready for debian or that debian was ready for it |
| 14:18.57 | jelly | bijan_: there's mariadb in debian, if you need newer features |
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| 14:19.45 | jelly | bijan_: mysql 5.6 had lots of issues at first, open source distros weren't sure they'd _ever_ ship that one |
| 14:19.52 | bijan_ | jelly: oh cool didn't know that |
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| 14:20.34 | bijan_ | I just use 5.6 because of the better support for default values (especially dates) |
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| 14:24.38 | minemod | hi i have a daemon running that seems suspicious its a vpnserver I have uninstalled every vpn server I can think of but i still see it listed in top. Is there a way to determine the package that is installed that starts a deamon? |
| 14:25.54 | heeen | I am trying to install a ubuntu-server kvm guest on a debian host |
| 14:26.06 | heeen | when I do virt-install it says it is starting the installation |
| 14:26.11 | heeen | but the console is not working |
| 14:26.19 | heeen | I can't see anything or enter anything |
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| 14:31.22 | linuxd | where to get Virtualbox Extension Pack 4.3.18 Debian? |
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| 14:37.46 | dutchfish | linuxd, https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox |
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| 14:40.05 | linuxd | dutchfish: thanx a lot |
| 14:40.13 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 15:05.01 | hejux | dutchfish: are you there? |
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| 15:06.48 | hejux | jelly: :) |
| 15:06.54 | hejux | i got it working |
| 15:06.56 | hejux | the rsync |
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| 15:14.36 | CygniX | I have a rather interesting situation. system has two harddrive, both were uses separately encrypted LVM groups, and sdb was selected not to be mounted during boot, yet, after I get pass luks prompt for the root system, there is prompt for password for the second harddrive stalling boot. |
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| 15:15.24 | MikOo | hello when will the wheezy 's security update stop ? |
| 15:15.43 | CygniX | if i press enter a couple times without entering the passphrase, bootup continues, but if I run say service networking restart, it then prompts for the passphrase of the LVM device again? |
| 15:16.10 | CygniX | Is this a bug, working as design and I need to modify something somewhere? |
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| 15:17.19 | CygniX | MikOo: likely late 2016 or early 2017 |
| 15:17.27 | elb | I'd be happy to hear any pointers anyone has for getting the irssi silc plugin built on Jessie; it fails due to some compile flag mismatches regarding PIC, and simple poking hasn't straightened that out |
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| 15:18.12 | MikOo | CygniX: Thanks, I have a full year to upgrade, it's perfect for me |
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| 15:18.44 | CygniX | it is usually 3 years from release date |
| 15:19.49 | MikOo | CygniX: ok, I thought only one year... I'm appy :-) |
| 15:19.57 | MikOo | happy* |
| 15:20.18 | CygniX | So, why is Jessie asking for an for encrypted LVM key even though no mount point is set? |
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| 15:21.34 | zinx | CygniX: clearly the NSA is trying to steal your mother's maiden name |
| 15:22.35 | zinx | CygniX: check crypttab |
| 15:23.03 | CygniX | If the NSA is after me, then I have already lost, lol |
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| 15:24.42 | CygniX | zinx: thanks, I see the second device there. |
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| 15:30.47 | alfon | Hi, I have an old video card: [AMD/ATI] RV100/M6 [Rage/Radeon Mobility Series] that cannot use DRI properly |
| 15:30.59 | alfon | This is part of Xorg output: |
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| 15:31.05 | alfon | [ 18772.024] (II) RADEON(0): GPU accel disabled or not working, using shadowfb for KMS |
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| 15:31.15 | alfon | [ 18772.378] (WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled |
| 15:31.18 | JohnTalent | Is anyone else havine there Konsole stall for a little over 3 minutes then it comes back? |
| 15:31.29 | alfon | this is my xorg.con file: http://paste.debian.net/261910/ |
| 15:31.30 | JohnTalent | no konsoles can be acivated or interacted with. |
| 15:31.36 | alfon | and the complete Xorg output: http://paste.debian.net/261911/ |
| 15:31.38 | CygniX | zinx: thanks again, that resolved it. |
| 15:31.43 | alfon | How can I activate it? |
| 15:31.50 | JohnTalent | i was thinking of switching to ubuntu. |
| 15:31.51 | alfon | Thanks in advance |
| 15:32.07 | zinx | CygniX: np |
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| 15:34.41 | JohnTalent | i mean locking konsole. this shouldn't happen in linux. |
| 15:34.52 | JohnTalent | but i did get drive errors in my dmesg. |
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| 15:35.06 | JohnTalent | however, my firefox working interacting fine without errors. |
| 15:35.08 | r6ku | alfon: Option "NoAccel" "off"? |
| 15:35.19 | JohnTalent | is there a priority to lock konsole if you have a drive error? |
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| 15:36.54 | Debianos | Things happen in GNU/Linux if people come to the table with the wrong hardware. |
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| 15:37.19 | alfon | r6ku: activate this option the window movement is so slow... let me see... |
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| 15:40.18 | JohnTalent | http://pastebin.com/iKkAfjKa |
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| 15:41.30 | JohnTalent | thats ardour4. same happens with ardour3. |
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| 15:44.05 | detly | I'm trying to create an ubuntu vivid pbuilder on a debian jessie VM, but I keep hitting a "Release signed by unknown key" error. I've tried to import the listed key using apt-key, and even manually installed the ubuntu-keyring package from vivid, with no luck |
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| 15:46.27 | detly | my .pbuilderrc specifies "--keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/ubuntu-archive-keyring.gpg" (and also debian-archive-keyring.gpg and ubuntu-master-keyring.gpg) |
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| 15:52.39 | rmblrd21 | hello. iptables -A OUTPUT -m owner --uid-owner user_you_want_to_block -j REJECT blocks internet access for a specific user |
| 15:52.44 | rmblrd21 | so as this user ping for example is not possible |
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| 15:52.48 | rmblrd21 | but this does not seem to work for wine. if this user starts firefox via wine, firefox does have internet access. It shouldn't have because the user's access is blocked via iptables |
| 15:52.51 | rmblrd21 | how's that working? something special about wineserver? |
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| 16:01.15 | valdyn | rmblrd21: show the whole output table |
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| 16:07.23 | jelly | hejux: good to hear |
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| 16:11.50 | garo | When i want to reinstall package foo i use "aptitude reinstall foo" and when the reason that i wont to reinstall the package is that i messed something in up in the configuration i use "aptitude purge foo && aptitude install foo" |
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| 16:12.50 | jordanm | purge doesn't remove conffiles |
| 16:12.51 | garo | but what if foo is a dependency of package bar and i want to keep bar intact, than the 2nd way won't work |
| 16:12.58 | jelly | jordanm: yes it does |
| 16:13.08 | jelly | !confnew |
| 16:13.08 | dpkg | [confnew] dpkg --force-confnew will force dpkg to overwrite any changes you have made to conffiles. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename>; or using aptitude, aptitude -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" reinstall <packagename>. See also <confmiss>. |
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| 16:14.06 | garo | hm... would that clean everything as nice as purge would ? |
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| 16:16.24 | rmblrd21 | valdyn, https://paste.debian.net/261921/ |
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| 16:23.36 | DelphiWorld | hi debianists |
| 16:24.05 | DelphiWorld | i have a fat32 flash disk |
| 16:24.24 | DelphiWorld | it look its corrupt, if i use dosfsck it sayd lock switch is on |
| 16:24.27 | DelphiWorld | any way to fix? |
| 16:24.34 | DelphiWorld | there's no read only lock switch |
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| 16:27.44 | GPenguin | DelphiWorld: you want to remove the software write protection of the pendrive? |
| 16:29.21 | DelphiWorld | hope i can fix this disk protected issue |
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| 16:30.46 | valdyn | rmblrd21: haha, nice one |
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| 16:31.13 | valdyn | rmblrd21: i can only suggest to use -I instead of -A in your iptables command, im certainly not going to debug what ufw produced there |
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| 16:37.13 | rmblrd21 | ;) |
| 16:37.52 | rmblrd21 | do you know of a good source for a well defined iptables file? |
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| 16:40.50 | GPenguin | rmblrd21: when you enter the channel #Netfilter pay attention to the channel topic. it lists useful resources |
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| 16:42.17 | rmblrd21 | thx |
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| 16:43.11 | rmblrd21 | valdyn, what's the difference between -I and -A? |
| 16:43.31 | valdyn | rmblrd21: have you not read the iptables documentation at all? |
| 16:43.42 | valdyn | rmblrd21: -I for insert, -A for append or add |
| 16:43.49 | valdyn | rmblrd21: rules are evaluated in order |
| 16:44.05 | rmblrd21 | thx, I will dig into that. But -I seem to do the job. thx |
| 16:44.06 | valdyn | rmblrd21: -I gets to the top, -A is appended at the bottom |
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| 16:45.00 | rmblrd21 | thx |
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| 17:03.19 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Does any one know if there is a way to clean up the apt database? Why I do anything in apt is just seems to take longer now and I feel it's just junk piling up in there. Like junk piling up in a Windows registry. |
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| 17:07.56 | Equa | MouseTheLuckyDog: apt-get clean |
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| 17:09.28 | rmblrd21 | is there a way to remove users from the gdm3 log in screen? |
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| 17:11.26 | Equa | rmblrd21: uid under 1000 is hidden or you can use a custom conf |
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| 17:12.23 | manuel | I didn't encrypted my partition while installing debian due a "logical already in use" error, should I encrypt now with the livecd installer? |
| 17:13.12 | rmblrd21 | it seems it can be disabled in the daemon.conf file that is in /etc/gdm3 |
| 17:13.18 | DebianGNU | h |
| 17:14.36 | DebianGNU | You'll need to reinstall if you're going to encrypt. |
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| 17:15.26 | rmblrd21 | and then the live installer would be the way to go. the netinstaller for 8.1 fails to encrypt lvm |
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| 17:17.26 | Lacho | hello |
| 17:18.15 | Lacho | Anybody know any ssh connection manager ? |
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| 17:18.38 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Equa, apt-get clean only deletes deb packages it doesn't rebuild the database, |
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| 17:21.42 | somiaj | Lacho: What do you want from an ssh connenction manager? I.e. what is your goal? |
| 17:22.25 | manuel | DebianGNU: rmblrd21: debian doesn't give any kind of encryption? |
| 17:22.41 | DebianGNU | Yes... While you're going through the installer |
| 17:22.51 | Lacho | somiaj: like secure-crt |
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| 17:23.20 | Lacho | I need to connect to many servers |
| 17:23.32 | somiaj | I don't know what secure-crt is |
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| 17:23.50 | somiaj | Lacho: at once? as far as I know ssh can't do that. |
| 17:23.58 | Lacho | but, I need commands are run as root |
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| 17:24.39 | Lacho | but they are 120 servers to which access need not want to do it one by one |
| 17:24.58 | RaitoBezarius | Why not make a script? |
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| 17:25.29 | RaitoBezarius | Depending on what you need to do with those servers |
| 17:25.31 | manuel | DebianGNU, what about truecrypt? I have to set many things on a fresh install and already did four times in past 48 hours. |
| 17:25.43 | somiaj | This is out of my experience, but I thought toolsl ike puppet or other such things are used when trying to do something on lots of servers at once. |
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| 17:27.26 | Lacho | RaitoBezarius: I had thought , but I wanted to see if there was something armed first. Probe complicate expect but when I wanted to make a sudo -s |
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| 17:28.37 | somiaj | Lacho: well I found this http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/19008/automatically-run-commands-over-ssh-on-many-servers and pssh |
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| 17:29.00 | somiaj | Lacho: pssh may do what you want, though I think setting up your servers to be controled by puppet or other such tools is the common way to achive such things |
| 17:29.48 | Lacho | somiaj: I'll try clusterssh |
| 17:29.59 | Lacho | thanks guys! |
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| 17:47.59 | alexmob | teste |
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| 17:55.35 | manuel | DebianGNU should I download a DVD INSTALLER or a LIVECD to encrypt with aes-256? |
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| 18:16.58 | JustCallMeMK | hi |
| 18:17.14 | JustCallMeMK | can anyone help me extract a exe |
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| 18:18.11 | JustCallMeMK | ? |
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| 18:18.25 | JustCallMeMK | !enter |
| 18:18.25 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 18:18.39 | JustCallMeMK | lol |
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| 18:19.23 | JustCallMeMK | any help plz |
| 18:19.46 | mtn | JustCallMeMK, google.com |
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| 18:19.59 | JustCallMeMK | no way |
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| 18:20.10 | JustCallMeMK | googled and cant find anything |
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| 18:20.20 | mtn | JustCallMeMK, of course not. |
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| 18:20.53 | JustCallMeMK | lol just call me MK |
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| 18:21.20 | sillysausage | hey, i'm thinking of using debian on my mom's laptop. Stable dependable. I'm torn between GNOME 3 or XFCE. (Myself I'm an ArchLinux user with i3wm but so i'm not really clued in on those DEs these days) any recommendations? |
| 18:21.41 | sillysausage | I also do want to have nothing to do with Ubuntu or derivitives for a number of reasons, mostly, mir, unity, and political. |
| 18:22.08 | JustCallMeMK | i never tired xfce |
| 18:22.09 | sillysausage | it's also not the most current laptop, so stable should be new enough in regards to wifi chipset etc |
| 18:22.15 | mtn | sillysausage, both of those desktops are fine. newbies and long time users both find gnome 3 easy to use |
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| 18:22.31 | sillysausage | yeah i'm thinking that, and i'd rather her learn gnome 3 than unity lol. |
| 18:22.38 | sillysausage | tbh i think they look pretty similar. |
| 18:22.41 | centrx | sillysausage, Gnome is bigger and bulkier than XFCE, would be slower on a machine with less hardware resources |
| 18:22.59 | sillysausage | system has i think 4GB of RAM, and intel. |
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| 18:23.07 | sillysausage | i would have to check the livecd and see how either performs. |
| 18:23.26 | JustCallMeMK | and the processor? |
| 18:23.27 | mtn | sillysausage, both should work fine then. |
| 18:23.50 | sillysausage | yeah that's what i'm thinking centrx i think it's a skylake i5 iirc |
| 18:24.03 | JustCallMeMK | i run it on 1 gb of ram and 1.3 ghz c-50 processor |
| 18:24.06 | sillysausage | might be the gen before that |
| 18:24.12 | JustCallMeMK | with a very little lag |
| 18:24.17 | JustCallMeMK | so it will run fine for you |
| 18:24.18 | sillysausage | JustCallMeMK: xfce or gnome3? |
| 18:24.29 | JustCallMeMK | gnome |
| 18:24.39 | sillysausage | oh neat, that also has a fallback to 2D doesn't it? |
| 18:24.39 | JustCallMeMK | i dont think its gnome3 |
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| 18:25.06 | sillysausage | i had thought about cinnamon, but i don't think that's really as stable |
| 18:25.18 | JustCallMeMK | am using cinnamon right now |
| 18:25.32 | KM0201 | xfce, xfce, xfce, xfce, xfce...lol |
| 18:25.48 | sillysausage | yeah that's what i'm thinking, i don't live with her (interstate) so least problems the better :) |
| 18:25.48 | JustCallMeMK | i should try that xfce lol and MATE |
| 18:25.50 | Greylocks | Fluxbox is light, but you'd probably have to tweak it for her. |
| 18:26.11 | sillysausage | worst thing is "WHATS A GOOD VIRUS SCANNER" omg im sick of that question |
| 18:26.30 | sillysausage | apt solves all your problems :D |
| 18:26.33 | KM0201 | JustCallMeMK: i like MATE, but it kept having some weird lockups for me... it would lock up for about 10-12sec, then everythig would be fine... then it would do it again at some random time (sometimes 10min, sometimes 10hrs) |
| 18:26.43 | KM0201 | xfce has never given me an issue |
| 18:26.51 | sillysausage | i used to have weird lockups with KDE when it would start |
| 18:26.54 | JustCallMeMK | i use sometimes kde |
| 18:27.01 | sillysausage | i actually found i3wm works flawlessly best experience ever |
| 18:27.05 | JustCallMeMK | and now am using cinamom |
| 18:27.14 | sillysausage | tiling window managers make so much sense too, that and dmenu, by far |
| 18:27.25 | sillysausage | most easiest thing i've ever used once you learn the keyboard shortcuts. |
| 18:27.43 | sillysausage | which unlike other window managers, are very well documented. |
| 18:28.01 | KM0201 | KDE.. gasp |
| 18:28.07 | KM0201 | i'd go back to using windows first |
| 18:28.20 | JustCallMeMK | i will never go back to windows |
| 18:28.48 | JustCallMeMK | i blown my windows with virus |
| 18:28.56 | JustCallMeMK | it came with my netbook |
| 18:29.12 | sillysausage | i actually saw a distribution the other day which actually comes with i3wm, http://www.planetwatt.com/ (their Microwatt variant) |
| 18:29.14 | JustCallMeMK | i like the alt + tab shit in cinamon |
| 18:29.29 | sillysausage | i'm actually jack shit of macosx, i will be getting rid of that when i get time |
| 18:29.44 | sillysausage | linux is just so much more versatile than craposx |
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| 18:29.49 | KM0201 | JustCallMeMK: trust me, i don't ever want to go back to windows... i was expressing my disdain for KDE |
| 18:30.13 | sillysausage | yeah i wouldn't go back to windows either |
| 18:30.18 | JustCallMeMK | Microsoft sucks and linux rocklol |
| 18:30.27 | sillysausage | too much effort to use windows. |
| 18:30.46 | sillysausage | it's also a good way to filter out shitty hardware vendors |
| 18:30.57 | sillysausage | if your hardware doesn't work on linux these days, it's probably the vendor's fault |
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| 18:31.37 | JustCallMeMK | yea |
| 18:31.52 | sillysausage | atheros 4 lyf :) |
| 18:32.10 | JustCallMeMK | i got first time damn small linux |
| 18:32.12 | sillysausage | although i've heard older broadcoms can be not so bad if you've got the ability to use b43 |
| 18:32.19 | JustCallMeMK | and guess what |
| 18:32.30 | JustCallMeMK | it took 5 mb of ram |
| 18:32.31 | JustCallMeMK | lol |
| 18:32.48 | KM0201 | sillysausage: the older broadcoms, if you use the b43 driver, are actually very stable and solid... |
| 18:32.57 | sillysausage | yeah |
| 18:33.02 | KM0201 | but atheros and intel are better... |
| 18:33.15 | sillysausage | it only sucks if you have new fangled 802.11AC based broadcom chipsets cos then you're stuck with proprietary driver ;) |
| 18:33.19 | KM0201 | realtek.. some of them are very good, others will make you want to gouge out your eyeballs |
| 18:33.34 | sillysausage | but the BCM4331 802.11a/b/g/n works with b43 |
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| 18:33.41 | KM0201 | yup |
| 18:33.53 | sillysausage | yes ive heard that the realteks don't follow the linux mac stack |
| 18:34.00 | sillysausage | and can't be merged into the kernel |
| 18:34.06 | KM0201 | they're a PITA... |
| 18:34.26 | KM0201 | my thing, if you're going to have a Linxu driver,... make it a quality driver, and put some effort into it, or just don't release it. |
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| 18:34.40 | sillysausage | yeah |
| 18:34.51 | sillysausage | i'm hoping the BCM4331 will work okay for me that's what my macbook has |
| 18:34.53 | KM0201 | Realtek, they're kinda like, "yeah, it works... that random disconnect thing, slow performance, etc.. well, sorry, you'll just have to deal w/ that... but we have a Linux driver" |
| 18:35.05 | sillysausage | and i don't really want to be using usb dongles where they can be broken off |
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| 18:35.31 | KM0201 | i've not had ot install the b43 driver under Debian... (when i used it long ago, i was still using ubuntu...) it was easy enough to install |
| 18:35.33 | JustCallMeMK | anyone can help me extract that damn exe using p7zip |
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| 18:36.12 | sillysausage | KM0201: the intel drivers use firmware blobs afaik |
| 18:36.20 | sillysausage | but at least the drivers are good quality |
| 18:36.30 | sillysausage | i think that's what i prefer about atheros/b43 |
| 18:37.04 | KM0201 | sillysausage: exactly, i have no issue w/ how the device works.. but if your'e going to put the effort into making it work... put a quality effort out there. |
| 18:37.26 | sillysausage | KM0201: yeah except if i can't use monitor mode then i care. |
| 18:37.35 | sillysausage | broadcom has stub functions in their wl driver |
| 18:37.46 | KM0201 | yeah |
| 18:37.54 | KM0201 | it's tough t find laptops w/ ahteros devices nowdays |
| 18:37.58 | KM0201 | almost all of them are realtek |
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| 18:38.13 | KM0201 | every so often you'll find one w/ Broadcom or Intel |
| 18:38.40 | sillysausage | though with a lot of laptops you can swap it after market unless you've got yourself a macbook |
| 18:39.18 | sillysausage | https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/2dsa13/switching_from_os_x_broadcomwl_80211nx5ghz_support/ |
| 18:39.25 | sillysausage | although i did read that and it made me sad |
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| 18:40.05 | sillysausage | err rather https://www.reddit.com/r/archlinux/comments/2dsa13/switching_from_os_x_broadcomwl_80211nx5ghz_support/cjsrr22 |
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| 18:40.30 | sillysausage | i'm hoping that's not the situation anymore |
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| 18:42.37 | KM0201 | i never used a 5ghz connection w/ broadcom |
| 18:42.54 | KM0201 | i think the last broadcom device i used, it was a 4311? used it w/ Ubuntu.. it actually worked really well. |
| 18:43.37 | sillysausage | yeah i've never used 5ghz either |
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| 18:43.41 | sillysausage | isn't that just longer range? |
| 18:44.11 | sillysausage | ive also never bothered with 802.11AC |
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| 18:44.31 | sillysausage | if i need more speed, i just use LAN usually |
| 18:44.36 | KM0201 | yup |
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| 18:45.01 | KM0201 | but i generally find I'm getting around 20-25mbps w/ my atheros USB device (ath9k) so I'm ok w/ that |
| 18:45.02 | sillysausage | and the AP i have is one of these http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/ubiquiti/unifi (atheros) |
| 18:45.48 | sillysausage | i also ditched my router and did this: |
| 18:45.55 | sillysausage | http://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Linux_Router_with_VPN_on_a_Raspberry_Pi (i wrote that) |
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| 18:47.02 | sillysausage | my external WAN is lower than 30mbit (which is the maximum you can get off a raspberry pi's ethernet/usb as it's bridged) |
| 18:47.28 | sillysausage | could easily copy the apkprov to a usb stick and boot it on a desktop x86 machine if that was going to change :) |
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| 18:48.23 | sillysausage | alpinelinux is a very neat little distribution with it's ramdisk provision style method, not sure i've really seen any other distribution with something like "lbu" |
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| 18:48.46 | sillysausage | i was actually going to go with debian but i'm not really sure how to do that with debian |
| 18:48.50 | KM0201 | hmm |
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| 18:51.44 | sillysausage | guess could build into initramfs but that means you have to take it down to make changes |
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| 18:54.05 | JustCallMeMK | finally |
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| 18:54.18 | JustCallMeMK | i found how to extract |
| 18:54.20 | KM0201 | ? |
| 18:54.26 | JustCallMeMK | a exe |
| 18:54.40 | KM0201 | i honestly have never needed to do that, so didn't know how |
| 18:54.54 | JustCallMeMK | just send it to a windows through wifi and extract it in the other pc :P |
| 18:55.03 | JustCallMeMK | lol |
| 18:55.12 | JustCallMeMK | i just need it for minecraft |
| 18:55.13 | KM0201 | lol |
| 18:55.20 | JustCallMeMK | the .minecraft folder |
| 18:55.56 | JustCallMeMK | who plays games in linux here |
| 18:55.58 | KM0201 | never played minecraft |
| 18:56.01 | KM0201 | but my nephew loves it |
| 18:56.19 | sillysausage | yeah kids i know never stop raving about that |
| 18:56.22 | sillysausage | and terraria |
| 18:56.54 | JustCallMeMK | i dont like terraria |
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| 18:57.05 | JustCallMeMK | i play assault cube |
| 18:57.21 | JustCallMeMK | and there is awesome game named open clonk |
| 18:57.22 | KM0201 | yteah, that's actually not bad for a free shooter |
| 18:57.32 | JustCallMeMK | too bad reloaded didnt work |
| 18:57.34 | KM0201 | open clonk.. never heard of it |
| 18:57.40 | JustCallMeMK | same |
| 18:57.45 | sillysausage | http://loicpefferkorn.net/2015/01/arch-linux-on-macbook-pro-retina-2014-with-dm-crypt-lvm-and-suspend-to-disk/ |
| 18:57.51 | sillysausage | that's what i was looking at trying, out |
| 18:57.56 | KM0201 | urban terror is a lot of fun as well.. i used to play the hell out of that game for hours on end... |
| 18:58.09 | sillysausage | i think thunderbolt hotplugging has been fixed has it not? was waiting for some ACPI patches i believe |
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| 18:58.52 | sillysausage | and my webcam is the older one on the USB lane so i don't have to wait for bcwc_pcie |
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| 18:59.22 | sillysausage | as there are no drivers for Broadcom 1570 PCIe Webcams |
| 18:59.46 | KM0201 | hmm |
| 18:59.57 | JustCallMeMK | but urban terror is 1gb |
| 19:00.03 | JustCallMeMK | :( |
| 19:00.09 | KM0201 | just, it's a pretty big install |
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| 19:00.20 | KM0201 | are you low on hard drive space? |
| 19:00.31 | JustCallMeMK | no |
| 19:00.35 | sillysausage | i think from what i've read thunderbolt works, unless you're trying to daisychain displayport monitors |
| 19:00.35 | JustCallMeMK | am low at internet |
| 19:00.57 | JustCallMeMK | its a little slow |
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| 19:01.14 | JustCallMeMK | lol 1mb |
| 19:01.26 | KM0201 | oh ok |
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| 19:01.31 | KM0201 | you ever play Open Arena? |
| 19:01.32 | JustCallMeMK | with bandwith of 200 kb/s |
| 19:01.41 | JustCallMeMK | ever head of it |
| 19:01.47 | KM0201 | it's not bad |
| 19:01.49 | r6ku | how's your latency? |
| 19:01.53 | JustCallMeMK | i will see it |
| 19:02.22 | JustCallMeMK | seems like quake |
| 19:02.29 | CheckDavid | Is the network installer option adequate for a VM? |
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| 19:04.41 | [jasper] | hej guys, I'm getting really bad performance from my server....I think it might be harddisk related...any way to test the actual performance of the disks? |
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| 19:11.59 | KM0201 | CheckDavid: i don't see why it wouldn't be. |
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| 19:12.49 | KM0201 | [jasper]: try reading here.. http://superuser.com/questions/171195/how-to-check-the-health-of-a-hard-drive |
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| 19:14.13 | CheckDavid | oh thanks KM0201 |
| 19:14.30 | CheckDavid | by the way, there's "Install" and "64 bit Install" |
| 19:14.33 | CheckDavid | This is confusing |
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| 19:14.56 | KM0201 | i use the network installer almost exclusively, don't really use VM"s, but i don't see why it wouldn't work |
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| 19:15.50 | KM0201 | CheckDavid: if i recall correctly, one option is a "graphical install" (ie, use your mouse, pretty windows, etc..) the other is not (all you need is your keyboard) |
| 19:15.50 | CheckDavid | I see, I already booted it in the VM |
| 19:15.54 | CheckDavid | but not sure which of the options to choose |
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| 19:16.16 | CheckDavid | Yes but there is one called "Install" simply |
| 19:16.27 | KM0201 | hmm, that's odd |
| 19:16.45 | KM0201 | well, sounds like they both install.. so just pick one. |
| 19:16.46 | KM0201 | lol |
| 19:17.00 | KM0201 | i'm guessing the "Install" is the gui installer, and the other is not |
| 19:17.14 | mtn | CheckDavid, one is for 32bit and one for 64bit |
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| 19:19.58 | logan0405 | Hey can anyone tell me how to run commands when x is started on debian? |
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| 19:22.19 | CheckDavid | I will try to find an installation guide |
| 19:22.24 | arunpyasi | guys, is there docker 1.7 available for Jessie ? |
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| 19:22.48 | mtn | CheckDavid, http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 19:23.51 | CheckDavid | For a normal installation, select either the âGraphical installâ or the âInstallâ entry â using either the arrow keys on your keyboard or by typing the first (highlighted) letter â and press Enter to boot the installer. The âInstallâ entry is already selected by default. <--- WTF? WHy are there 2 options then? weird |
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| 19:24.10 | CheckDavid | maybe normal does not mean "for the average guy" as I think |
| 19:24.12 | mtn | CheckDavid, I already told you what they mean |
| 19:24.53 | mtn | CheckDavid, <mtn> CheckDavid, one is for 32bit and one for 64bit |
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| 19:26.15 | CheckDavid | I see, thanks mtn |
| 19:26.17 | KM0201 | mtn: on the network installer? i didn't realize that |
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| 19:26.31 | KM0201 | i thuoght you downloaded the 32 or 64bit. |
| 19:26.32 | mtn | KM0201, all installers are the same, as far as the layout goes |
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| 19:33.11 | nezZario | Eh ok |
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| 19:33.41 | nezZario | What's a decent general editor? Vim I guess? What's the best vim-gtk-ish implementation? |
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| 19:34.00 | nezZario | gedit really isn't good for anything beyond jotting down notes |
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| 19:34.17 | nezZario | but i'd like something with full/native mouse support, i.e. not in a terminal |
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| 19:37.54 | ZIPY | hi, how can i set chromium as my default browser? i tried to set it via chromium settings, but it has no effect |
| 19:40.11 | manuel | chromium has spyware |
| 19:41.21 | nezZario | ZIPY, I had this weird thing where Chromium would say it wasn't the default browser but actually was |
| 19:41.48 | nezZario | It would insist on every startup that it wasn't the default browser, yet when URL's were opened, it handled them |
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| 19:42.23 | nezZario | so just saying, check to see if you open a URL if indeed it doesn't actually open. my resolution was to simply tell it to stop asking me |
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| 19:42.41 | nezZario | manuel, citation needed? |
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| 19:44.06 | manuel | do your research, fag |
| 19:45.00 | nezZario | ok, my apologies, to some random guy on the internet.. one of the most-used open source browsers has spyware in it, it's so obvious now... apologies for my inferior intellect |
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| 19:46.04 | manuel | your welcome lazy bastard fuck |
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| 19:49.12 | unborn | can someone kick that manuel individual out? please? many thanks. |
| 19:49.26 | arunpyasi | guys, is there docker 1.7 available for Jessie ? |
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| 19:51.06 | shentino | !ops manuel using profanity |
| 19:51.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: shentino complains about: manuel using profanity |
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| 19:52.14 | manuel | fuck off nerd |
| 19:52.21 | manuel | deal with your business |
| 19:52.42 | manuel | shaggy-lad whoring bitch |
| 19:52.47 | kloeri | manuel: calm down |
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| 19:53.15 | CheckDavid | I am trying Debian cuz Debian was acting slow. Very SLow |
| 19:53.28 | CheckDavid | not sure if this is gonna improve |
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| 20:04.50 | Freeaqingme | Hi folks, I'm looking for the patches that Debian uses when building the kernel. Where can I find these? |
| 20:06.19 | anakimluke | Hi! Where is debian's iso hash list? |
| 20:06.29 | pencilandpaper | CheckDavid: what are you going to try if you dont mind me asking. Debian because Debian was slow. very slow? |
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| 20:09.57 | CheckDavid | SOrry, I meant Ubuntu |
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| 20:10.09 | nezZario | What the heck? |
| 20:10.29 | nezZario | Why does running, e.x. $ gksudo vim.gtk /etc/some/file.conf open normal vim-in-a-terminal ? |
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| 20:16.52 | nezZario | gvim! |
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| 20:23.12 | arun__ | sorry wrong channel |
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| 20:43.43 | oomhaks | Stop lawyyer royer moyer! |
| 20:43.52 | oomhaks | Stop pinging again. Eat plants maholein. You're a pimp whateverything of time. Lowers ram again. Can peoplege ong on television. You're a pimp whatever no dick. What will prevent to swim. It's a sucker. Muck cornhuskers, Cornfucker. Buck sucker. Can people please stop pinging but time. You're a pimp whatever no dick. What thing but this stupid football! Bowl, is ars, Cornbuck buck fuckin time. |
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| 20:44.01 | oomhaks | IT's a suckers |
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| 21:22.11 | Nitzkrieg | I just did a fresh install of debian and added my account to the sudo group but I still can't use sudo. What am I missing? |
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| 21:24.30 | r6ku | Nitzkrieg: have you tried restarting your computer? |
| 21:25.01 | Nitzkrieg | yeah, relogged first and when that didnt do it i rebooted |
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| 21:28.34 | Nitzkrieg | r6ku: yeah i just tried restarting again and still no go "sudo: command not found" |
| 21:29.45 | Nitzkrieg | dpkg-query -l 'ssh*' says that it's installed and /etc/sudoers says people in the sudo group should have access and groups sudo says my account is a member |
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| 21:32.05 | thirtynein | hi guys, i'm new to debian and i just installed steam, but when i try to launch it it says i'm missing this libc.so.6. also when i try to install something i get an error saying "a package could not be found that allows the action to complete." would appriciate help |
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| 21:33.13 | Nitzkrieg | thirtynein: i ran into that on ubuntu, after 2 hours of googling and installing random packages it turned out to be my nvidia drivers. reinstalled them and it worked |
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| 21:36.03 | r6ku | Nitzkrieg: I went ahead installed sudo on my end with the help of the wiki and it seems to work fine. I'm just as puzzled as you are. |
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| 21:37.21 | soee_ | hi, can someone help me a bit with installing latest nodejs on debian 8 ? |
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| 21:39.45 | thirtynein | Nitzkrieg: i managed to fix the steam somehow, but when i try to install megasync i still get the error |
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| 21:41.34 | CheckDavid | I have a weird Software Selection step in my debian installation |
| 21:41.50 | CheckDavid | it's not like the ones I see in the installation guides |
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| 21:43.34 | KM0201 | CheckDavid: ? what's it say? |
| 21:44.04 | maxorator | got this "Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.16.0-4-amd64 (x86_64)" on wheezy->jessie dist-upgrade |
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| 21:44.23 | maxorator | both on setting up linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64 and linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 21:44.48 | maxorator | here should be all the relevant info: http://pastebin.com/AAdeDJsZ |
| 21:46.16 | CheckDavid | KM0201: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/iY8hMCtO/irccloudcapture-953661418.jpg |
| 21:46.59 | CheckDavid | You see? |
| 21:48.06 | r6ku | CheckDavid: just pick what you want |
| 21:48.36 | CheckDavid | I don't know what I want to be honest r6ku |
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| 21:50.31 | KM0201 | CheckDavid: well, standard system server and print server.. are normal |
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| 21:50.41 | r6ku | CheckDavid: you want standard system utilities, uncheck print server if you're not planning on running one, then pick a Desktop Environment |
| 21:50.58 | KM0201 | CheckDavid: the others, it's asking you what desktop environment you want |
| 21:51.02 | KM0201 | so.. choose one |
| 21:51.23 | KM0201 | use Google to see different screenshots of them if you'r enot familiar with them (i personally prefer xfce) |
| 21:51.49 | CheckDavid | I don't really know which I would prefer. |
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| 21:52.27 | KM0201 | CheckDavid: i'd suggest looking at screenshots in Google Images |
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| 21:52.39 | KM0201 | Look specifically at Gnome 3 and KDE 4 |
| 21:52.59 | CheckDavid | It's just a matter of aesthetics? |
| 21:53.14 | KM0201 | yes |
| 21:53.17 | r6ku | CheckDavid: there are differences, btw what are your hardware specs? |
| 21:53.17 | CheckDavid | If so I'll just go with the first option |
| 21:53.51 | KM0201 | basically.. they're all the same "under the hood" for the most art, but aesthetic is most of it... but if you're running (for instance) a machine w/ low ram, then you'd want to pick one of the environments that a little less "flashy" (xfce or lxde) |
| 21:54.03 | vandox | mostly aesthetics, gnome and kde bring programms with them |
| 21:54.05 | r6ku | oh right, print server is for CUPS right? if you've got a printer you're going to use then check that box too >.< |
| 21:54.23 | KM0201 | yeah |
| 21:54.30 | CheckDavid | Intel celeron |
| 21:54.30 | CheckDavid | And then I have 512 mbs of vram dedicated to this virtual instance of Debian |
| 21:54.40 | KM0201 | 512mb? |
| 21:54.49 | KM0201 | xfce or lxde.. maybe Mate |
| 21:54.51 | somiaj | gnome or kde inside a vm will be very slow |
| 21:54.52 | r6ku | CheckDavid: in that case pick XFCE or LXDE |
| 21:55.02 | somiaj | or just go with a small windowmanager and then install the software you watn |
| 21:55.36 | CheckDavid | Yeah, of ram applied to this virtual machine |
| 21:55.38 | Nitzkrieg | r6ku: turns out sudo wasn't installed despite being on the dpkg-query list. i had to update sources.list because it only contained the security repositories for whatever reason but now i'm good to go. sudo working and root disabled |
| 21:56.21 | CheckDavid | Thanks for the suggestion r6ku . I will go with xfce |
| 21:56.51 | KM0201 | a virtual machine w/ only 512mb of ram is gonna be slower than shit, even w/ xfce or lxde. |
| 21:57.00 | jhutchins | Nitzkrieg: Not installed would explain not working. |
| 21:57.12 | KM0201 | if that's all you had to give it, i'd have probably downloaded some Live images, and tried booting those and trying them. |
| 21:58.01 | jhutchins | 512m is usable as long as you don't multitask much. |
| 21:58.31 | KM0201 | yeah, i think i'd still jsut rather use live media though |
| 21:58.49 | Nitzkrieg | jhutchins: but when i checked dpkg-query -l it was there! and when i tried aptitude install sudo it was 0/0/0/0 for changes so i thought it was there but sources.list was screwy |
| 21:59.08 | Nitzkrieg | jhutchins: the perfect confusing storm |
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| 22:08.58 | Behruz | Upgrading download rate is very slow about 15 kb/s |
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| 22:10.24 | Behruz | It not using all of my bandwidth speed is there any workaround? |
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| 22:19.21 | Behruz | Why downloading packages for dist-upgrade is slow ? |
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| 22:19.55 | KM0201 | Behruz: well, it's either your connection or the server you're connected to |
| 22:20.22 | Behruz | It differs between 10 to 20 kb/s |
| 22:20.41 | Behruz | My connection is ok |
| 22:20.59 | dvs | then...? |
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| 22:21.50 | Behruz | The server is ftp.es.debian org |
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| 22:22.26 | dvs | Behruz: so change it to http.debian.net |
| 22:23.13 | Behruz | How I'm in process |
| 22:23.27 | dvs | then wait till afterwards. |
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| 22:24.13 | WangDang_ | Behruz: do you know about netselect? |
| 22:24.42 | Behruz | WangDang:no |
| 22:25.19 | WangDang_ | google it. You give it the names of a bunch of servers and it tells you which is the closest networkwise |
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| 22:27.00 | Behruz | My source.list :http://ftp.es debian.org/debian jessie main |
| 22:27.54 | WangDang_ | Behruz: you probably want to add the security repository to that list |
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| 22:28.20 | Behruz | I added already |
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| 22:32.55 | Behruz | Can i shutdown apt-get dist-upgrade? For changing |
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| 22:38.19 | dvs | Behruz: If it's installing, I wouldn't. Only if downloading |
| 22:38.24 | azmodeus | Behruz... control + C I think will kill the process, but I don't suggest you to try |
| 22:39.08 | Behruz | It's downloading i know |
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| 22:46.25 | Behruz | Azmodeus.i try it |
| 22:46.46 | azmodeus | Behruz, I said I don't :D well, let me know what happens... :P |
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| 22:49.20 | Behruz | Azmodeus,can you see my ip :) |
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| 22:52.29 | Behruz | Azmodeus,it gets way better up to 100 kb/s.thanks |
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| 22:56.33 | azmodeus | Behruz, you still don't have a cloak, I can see your IP |
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| 22:57.36 | Behruz | Azmodeus.i registered idn |
| 22:58.01 | azmodeus | Behruz, you still have to join #freenode and ask for an unaffiliated cloak |
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| 23:12.19 | Guest20362 | my debian box has "lost" the xwindow (doesnot statrt) and the wifi netwrok (wpasupplicant daemon starts with code exit -1) and I I only have the shell, don't know where to starto to see what happens... |
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| 23:17.03 | azmodeus | Guest20362, has this happened when running something? Or just restarting os this has appeared to be so? |
| 23:17.54 | Guest20362 | azmodeus, I did apt-get update % dist-upgrade, shutdown (went to seep) and qhen I have rebbot my computer... it behaved this way |
| 23:18.37 | azmodeus | Guest20362, do you see some label up in the command line? |
| 23:19.15 | Guest20362 | azmodeus, I cannot see my cli becuase I only have one computer (this) and I am using dual boot :/ |
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| 23:20.34 | azmodeus | Guest20362, damn... =) you have not just switched console, right? |
| 23:21.39 | Guest20362 | azmodeus, NO, I ahve switche to console, I have logged as my user and as root, tried to run apt-get before anything else, that's when I discovered the problem with wpa-supplicant daemon... and... well reboot to windows |
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| 23:25.57 | azmodeus | Guest20362, hmmm, I think I will not be helpful this way =( I was thinking at just a tty change... but that daemon problem I don't know... |
| 23:26.27 | Guest20362 | azmodeus, I am sotrry for only having one computer, I am poor |
| 23:27.23 | azmodeus | Guest20362, it is not a problem ahah... =) it is that I cannot help you, also if I would like to be able to... because I don't really am a great experienced linux user... :P I am learning it right now! eheh |
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| 23:28.14 | Guest20362 | azmodeus, oh hahahahaha |
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| 23:30.27 | azmodeus | Guest20362, this way I think I could learn more... I try to interest in other people troubles and try to find some helpful information or maybe some solutions... there may be also something that I can be able to solve myself :P but anyway I will learn more, talking with people about linux problems :) |
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