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| 00:44.38 | testnick123 | hey. did debian altered the tcp/ip stack of linux? |
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| 00:44.48 | testnick123 | im getting weird results on nmap |
| 00:44.59 | jak2000 | why i get this error (on /var/log/syslog): debian firmware: failed to load bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw |
| 00:45.03 | jak2000 | ho to fix? |
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| 00:48.48 | cypherman | hi people |
| 00:48.58 | cypherman | is gcc-5-base a standard package of debian jessie? |
| 00:49.29 | cypherman | !dpkg gcc-5-base |
| 00:49.42 | cypherman | mm |
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| 00:52.07 | cypherman | gcc-5-base? |
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| 00:53.31 | allizom | cypherman: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gcc-5-base |
| 00:53.31 | sideup66 | helllo room |
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| 00:55.02 | jak2000 | sideup66! |
| 00:55.22 | sideup66 | hey jak2000 |
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| 00:56.24 | sideup66 | i have a script i need to update, i made a script a bit ago here to update my ip address using a script |
| 00:56.31 | sideup66 | and had to add a delay to make it wait for network at boot |
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| 00:56.42 | sideup66 | but the thing is i want to add a 5 minute timeout, could anyone help |
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| 00:57.38 | sideup66 | here is the script |
| 00:57.39 | sideup66 | http://pastebin.com/aQ7bTdqV |
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| 01:00.39 | cypherman | allizom: testing |
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| 01:01.28 | allizom | cypherman: that's stretch. you asked about jessie |
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| 01:01.46 | jak2000 | why i get this error (on /var/log/syslog): debian firmware: failed to load bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1b.fw |
| 01:02.03 | cypherman | yes, i downloaded the jessie CD iso and sources pointed to testing then... |
| 01:02.19 | cypherman | so that is how got gcc-5-base package installed in debian jessie then |
| 01:04.06 | sideup66 | im sorry i dont know how to add a second condition namely to the while loops |
| 01:04.09 | sideup66 | loop i mean |
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| 01:06.28 | sideup66 | how can i use an or in my while loop |
| 01:06.32 | sideup66 | to check for two conditions? |
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| 01:08.49 | screamindynomit | yay irssi |
| 01:08.59 | sideup66 | im kinda confused |
| 01:09.06 | sideup66 | i want to add an or condition to my loop |
| 01:09.10 | sideup66 | so it checks for 2 things |
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| 01:09.35 | phy1729 | sideup66: I think you want #bash |
| 01:10.08 | screamindynomit | just put both checks in the same loop or make 2 loops in the same executable |
| 01:10.18 | sideup66 | uhm i guess, i mean |
| 01:10.19 | screamindynomit | sideup66 ^ |
| 01:10.19 | sideup66 | http://pastebin.com/aQ7bTdqV |
| 01:10.22 | sideup66 | that is my script |
| 01:10.29 | sideup66 | right now i want it to test til it succeeds |
| 01:10.32 | sideup66 | or 5 minutes pass |
| 01:10.39 | sideup66 | so it has a timeout ability |
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| 01:11.06 | phy1729 | ! ping || foobar; |
| 01:11.07 | dpkg | tolls a 5-meter-bell over || foobar;'s head |
| 01:11.18 | phy1729 | ... |
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| 01:12.12 | sideup66 | huh phy1729? |
| 01:12.16 | sideup66 | its two conditions i want |
| 01:12.18 | sideup66 | one or the other |
| 01:12.45 | phy1729 | hence using || |
| 01:12.58 | screamindynomit | you need to add exit 0 to the end of that and if you want one or the other and not do if [false] |
| 01:13.04 | screamindynomit | do #2 |
| 01:13.06 | sideup66 | so the ping branch || time=whatever |
| 01:13.06 | jak2015 | debian question: hey friends my nework card now was configured properly, can ping to local pc, but cant ping to a external ip: 8.8.8.8 why? i am been configured /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf, restarted the Server and not surff any other file that need modify/configure? thanks |
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| 01:13.23 | phy1729 | jak2015: do you have a default route? |
| 01:13.38 | jak2015 | phy1729 how to check |
| 01:13.41 | sideup66 | uhm |
| 01:14.04 | phy1729 | jak2015: netstat -rn |
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| 04:14.27 | ash_ | what's the most active linux irc? |
| 04:14.33 | Sokomine | er...http://paste2.org/04gJW8fn of course. the setup is: 2 monitors, one via dvi, one via vga |
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| 04:15.12 | RaitoBezarius | screamindynomit: :D |
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| 04:17.01 | Sokomine | any ideas what might be the cause of startx refusing to come up? |
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| 04:18.06 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: Xorg's problem... Aah, that reminds me mine. |
| 04:18.14 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: Can you show me the config file? |
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| 04:22.05 | Sokomine | RaitoBezarius: http://paste2.org/CY6AeB8B |
| 04:22.27 | Sokomine | it did work fine prior to the update to jessie |
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| 04:23.03 | Sander^asdasd | Hi. do anyone know if CVE-2011-3192 with ddos vulnerabilty is backported into debian etch on apache 2.0? |
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| 04:23.56 | Sander^asdasd | Or do I have to upgrade my rather old apache version to 2.2? ;-P |
| 04:24.18 | Sokomine | probably ought to clean up that xorg.conf file...contains a lot of outdated entries |
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| 04:25.11 | Sander^asdasd | backportlog* |
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| 04:27.45 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: Yes, it seems so. |
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| 04:28.02 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: My best guess is maybe something about TwinView and Xinerama. |
| 04:28.10 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: If I recall, those two options may conflict. |
| 04:28.20 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: And anyway, they're nVidia-specific, no? |
| 04:28.22 | beepie | twinview and xinerama are not compatible afaik |
| 04:28.58 | RaitoBezarius | Ok, so they may be conflicting. |
| 04:29.02 | beepie | they are |
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| 04:29.16 | beepie | the nvidia readme should say to turn off xinerama |
| 04:29.22 | beepie | if twinview is enabled |
| 04:29.33 | RaitoBezarius | Furthermore, this is an Intel HD Graphics card... |
| 04:29.42 | screamindynomit | maybe this will work? |
| 04:29.46 | screamindynomit | https://micahflee.com/2013/04/sudo-apt-get-install-torbrowser/ |
| 04:29.59 | beepie | "twinview" is an nvidia option |
| 04:30.05 | beepie | so not sure why you think intel uses it |
| 04:30.23 | RaitoBezarius | Don't know, just saw that in the config file |
| 04:30.43 | beepie | RaitoBezarius, nvidia is closed source |
| 04:30.48 | beepie | !nvidia |
| 04:30.49 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 04:31.04 | RaitoBezarius | beepie: I know |
| 04:31.06 | screamindynomit | ./build_and_install.sh |
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| 04:31.22 | Sokomine | RaitoBezarius: probably. it's a celeron g1610 at work here with the igp it comes with. the setup worked up until now. maybe newer versions demand other options? |
| 04:31.25 | RaitoBezarius | I just mean that in the config file, there was Xinerama and TwinView options using an Intel graphic card. |
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| 04:31.28 | screamindynomit | oops wrong terminal |
| 04:32.17 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: You should try, because if you're multihead is depending on TwinView system, which is nvidia's... I may be confused. |
| 04:32.20 | beepie | RaitoBezarius,do you have an nvidia card on the system? |
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| 04:32.46 | RaitoBezarius | beepie: I am talking about Sokomine's issue |
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| 04:32.58 | Kayla | hello |
| 04:33.01 | beepie | uh Sokomine should be telling what he has in his config -- ok confusing who's really asking what to what |
| 04:33.05 | RaitoBezarius | beepie: But he does not have a nVidia card on the system |
| 04:33.15 | RaitoBezarius | beepie: He pasted his config |
| 04:33.23 | Kayla | i am having trouble installing wifi drivers on t440 |
| 04:33.26 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: RaitoBezarius: http://paste2.org/CY6AeB8B |
| 04:33.36 | RaitoBezarius | Sorry for the confusion beepie |
| 04:34.28 | Sokomine | there used to be an nvidia card in an older setup from which that xorg.conf grew over time |
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| 04:34.49 | Sokomine | yes, sorry for not making that clear. maybe it confuses x as well |
| 04:34.57 | Kayla | would someone be able to help me set up t440 for debian jessie? |
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| 04:35.28 | RaitoBezarius | Sokomine: Start by removing old config, and retry! |
| 04:37.03 | Kayla | can you guys hear me or am i not registered? |
| 04:37.28 | Sokomine | we can hear you, kayla. do you mean a thinkpad t440? |
| 04:37.36 | Kayla | yes i do |
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| 04:39.15 | Sokomine | ah. there are usually a lot of helpful pages for thinkpads on many forums. at least it used to be so for older models |
| 04:39.41 | beepie | Sokomine, you can create a template using X -confignew, and copy that from ~ (root) |
| 04:39.47 | aedinius | Even on new models, if you bought the right hardware, should install easily |
| 04:40.17 | aedinius | Kayla: What wifi do you have? |
| 04:40.21 | beepie | Sokomine, (X -configure , /./) |
| 04:40.42 | aedinius | Kayla: once you boot in on the installer, switch to a console, and do lspci |
| 04:40.57 | screamindynomit | seems 2 be working sudo add-apt-repository ppa:micahflee/ppa |
| 04:40.57 | screamindynomit | sudo apt-get update |
| 04:40.59 | screamindynomit | sudo apt-get install torbrowser-launcher |
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| 04:41.43 | Kayla | wifi is intel 7620 rev b |
| 04:42.18 | aedinius | Did you install the firmware? |
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| 04:42.36 | Sokomine | beepie: thanks! taking a look at that |
| 04:42.37 | aedinius | And do you mean 7260? |
| 04:42.45 | Kayla | tried yes |
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| 04:42.54 | aedinius | Kayla: Here's the direct link http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=iwlwifi-7260-ucode-22.15.8.0.tgz |
| 04:42.57 | screamindynomit | lol still not finding it |
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| 04:43.11 | beepie | Sokomine, there's these two sites http://www.x.org/wiki/IntelGraphicsDriver/ -- this site hasn't updated the newer intel's graphics site -> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/ |
| 04:43.14 | aedinius | Kayla: What does dmesg say? |
| 04:43.29 | beepie | Sokomine, another thing |
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| 04:44.06 | beepie | Sokomine, if that is a very new intel chip -- you might have to use the latest "microcode", I would suggest doing so if the cpu is under a year old |
| 04:44.21 | DebianGNU | Are these free drivers? |
| 04:44.27 | beepie | Sokomine, (as well as the latest kernel possible) |
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| 04:44.33 | aedinius | DebianGNU: define "free" |
| 04:44.35 | Kayla | i reinstalled after multiple tried,, edited sudo file ect |
| 04:44.43 | beepie | !tell DebianGNU about free |
| 04:44.44 | Kayla | will be good to go in 20 mins |
| 04:44.48 | DebianGNU | free as in free software |
| 04:45.02 | aicra | free as in free speech |
| 04:45.03 | aedinius | DebianGNU: beer or speech? |
| 04:45.07 | DebianGNU | speech |
| 04:45.13 | DebianGNU | libre |
| 04:45.15 | aedinius | probably not. |
| 04:45.18 | Kayla | gratis |
| 04:45.27 | DebianGNU | I wouldn't touch it then. :-/ |
| 04:45.29 | beepie | the intel drivers are free |
| 04:45.38 | aedinius | beepie: firmware isn't |
| 04:45.56 | beepie | not all intel drivers need firmware. And intel does have "free" as well as non-free firmware |
| 04:46.07 | beepie | .-/ |
| 04:46.09 | aedinius | also yes. |
| 04:46.19 | beepie | "also yes." |
| 04:46.28 | beepie | maybe you should help than parrot |
| 04:46.30 | beepie | :) |
| 04:46.45 | beepie | "noob" |
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| 04:46.48 | aedinius | that involves "effort" |
| 04:47.11 | screamindynomit | maybe i should make an echo bot for irc? :D |
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| 04:47.45 | Sokomine | beepie: er...that did it :-) your suggestion with the "X -configure" did the job. after copying the new config file over, i was very surprised that both screens worked as expected. the resolution is also correct |
| 04:48.07 | beepie | Sokomine, that would be randr/dbus in user space doing auto xinerama-magic |
| 04:48.23 | beepie | Sokomine, I don't think you need to fiddle with xinerama with X's setting :) |
| 04:49.01 | beepie | Sokomine, one thing though is the fonts can get screwed up, and in that case it's more of a pita ("DisplaySize") |
| 04:49.16 | beepie | Sokomine, (between different resolution monitors) |
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| 04:50.16 | Sokomine | beepie: ah. guess it'll be possible to change that auto-config-file accordingly. i did notice some strange effects on fonts already prior to rebooting (when x was still working) |
| 04:50.19 | beepie | Sokomine, did you try X even without an xorg.conf config ? If you use just -configure and things just worked then you don't need an xorg.conf file |
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| 04:51.11 | beepie | any americans on here? |
| 04:51.19 | beepie | how about that lighted white house last night eh? |
| 04:51.21 | beepie | lol |
| 04:51.22 | aedinius | Is that a trick question? |
| 04:51.41 | Sokomine | beepie: i thought i tried without a config file but apparently forgot to move the old file away :-/ wouldn't have expected that to work as well anyway |
| 04:51.45 | aedinius | Oh, literally the one thing that Obama has done for the LGBT community? |
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| 04:52.02 | beepie | nah it was cool |
| 04:52.16 | aedinius | Yeah, it was |
| 04:52.18 | beepie | but I doubt it was obama's idea, he absoltely has none |
| 04:52.29 | aedinius | and because ... |
| 04:52.31 | aedinius | also yes. |
| 04:52.58 | beepie | Sokomine, you must of last looked at X configuration like 5 years ago,.. it is all done automatically |
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| 04:53.03 | aedinius | It was a gesture, albeit a weak gesture. |
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| 04:53.20 | screamindynomit | lol beepie u canadian? and obamas only idea has been to let illeagal imagrants have 5 years back taxes and obamacare |
| 04:53.26 | beepie | Sokomine, it used to be an xfree86(now "x.org") required a config file but no longer |
| 04:53.56 | beepie | Sokomine, now there's tools like arandr (front-end to "randr") -- the display configurations for Krandr or Gnome's front-ends call randr in the background |
| 04:54.14 | beepie | Sokomine, or xrandr whichever one it is |
| 04:54.20 | aedinius | wtf is arandr |
| 04:54.36 | beepie | arandr exists |
| 04:54.42 | beepie | its a front end to xrandr |
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| 04:54.53 | aedinius | front end to a front end.. |
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| 04:55.18 | gerforce | hello, i have a problem with flash plugin in iceweasel on Debian. It works well for playing video except the problem with Chinese characters which cann't be displayed well. |
| 04:55.33 | beepie | it's a user-space tool, so Sokomine if you're reading this, you login to your session and can issue that command as regular user |
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| 04:56.10 | beepie | gerforce, flash is closed-source, not debian's problem |
| 04:56.54 | beepie | gerforce, i suggest just going with libpepperapi flash, but you'll be forced to install chrome for trying it |
| 04:57.24 | beepie | gerforce,https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/108086?hl=en |
| 04:57.59 | gerforce | beepie: google has been blocked |
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| 04:58.23 | beepie | gerforce, the libpep flash package is available. |
| 04:58.37 | beepie | gerforce, though i don't know if that references google's url |
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| 04:59.03 | beepie | gerforce, otherwise you'll just have to ask someone to email you the libpep flash .so one way or another (it also works with chromium) |
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| 04:59.31 | beepie | gerforce, also you should ask your government to give you google chrome |
| 04:59.34 | screamindynomit | lol who blocks google |
| 04:59.40 | beepie | screamindynomit, china |
| 05:00.03 | beepie | screamindynomit, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Shield_Project |
| 05:00.05 | aedinius | my government denied me google chrome |
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| 05:00.15 | aedinius | okay it was my work. |
| 05:00.15 | screamindynomit | ahhh try tor maybe it will circumvent the great firewall of china |
| 05:00.31 | aedinius | and they only denied it on our enterprise boxes, but no one uses them anyway |
| 05:00.44 | beepie | gerforce, btw you guys did a great job there hacking the american federal databases, that was so sweet |
| 05:00.47 | gerforce | screamindynomit: it is more difficult to use tor now |
| 05:00.48 | beepie | gerforce, lol |
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| 05:01.06 | beepie | .. that's why I like china, because it's so fun to see china hacking america |
| 05:01.08 | DebianGNU | Flash is crap. Avoid it. |
| 05:01.09 | beepie | oops |
| 05:01.12 | screamindynomit | nice 2 know |
| 05:01.16 | gerforce | beepie: i know nothing about it. |
| 05:01.22 | beepie | gerforce, hahaha |
| 05:01.28 | aedinius | beepie: no its not. |
| 05:01.30 | Kayla | what is flash alternative |
| 05:01.35 | beepie | gerforce, you in shanhai? |
| 05:01.44 | screamindynomit | china needs to give shawn hanedy hillays email server lol |
| 05:01.51 | gerforce | beepie: no |
| 05:01.57 | DebianGNU | youtube-dl is my flash alternative |
| 05:02.08 | gerforce | beepie: i am in Hefei |
| 05:02.18 | aedinius | DebianGNU: html5 is mine |
| 05:02.24 | gerforce | beepie: Anhui province. |
| 05:02.36 | DebianGNU | aedinius: I'd use that if it didn't require proprietary JS :-/ |
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| 05:02.52 | beepie | gerforce, npapi updates (except for "Security" updates), is maintained for 11.2 ,, google's ppapi flash is already 11.8+ .. |
| 05:02.58 | aedinius | DebianGNU: eh? |
| 05:03.02 | beepie | gerforce, so there's a lot of functionality difference |
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| 05:03.05 | DebianGNU | JavaScript |
| 05:03.11 | aedinius | No, I get that |
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| 05:03.27 | beepie | gerforce, problem of course is Mozilla never adopted the pepperapi interface so that's why you can't have the lastest flash with firefox/iceweasal |
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| 05:03.31 | Kayla | js/node <3 |
| 05:03.31 | sideup66 | hey room |
| 05:03.35 | sideup66 | i have one more question actually |
| 05:03.45 | screamindynomit | whats that side? |
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| 05:03.52 | DebianGNU | I forgot that these days the alternate player works in Iceweasel |
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| 05:04.02 | sideup66 | does anyone know how to force run a command as cron? like if you have a command that runs at stratup and its meant to be background |
| 05:04.03 | DebianGNU | if you use NoScript and HTML5 Everywhere |
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| 05:04.23 | sideup66 | but want to launch it again, a a certain time, same deal in background, is there a clear cut way to make cron just run it |
| 05:04.38 | RaitoBezarius | sideup66: two line then? |
| 05:04.40 | beepie | gerforce, it's not illegal, i'm sure if you ask someone in a usergroup to help pass the libpepperapi .so file you should be able to get it to work with chromium |
| 05:04.43 | RaitoBezarius | lines * |
| 05:04.44 | screamindynomit | sudeup66: no i cant even get cron to work on rbpi |
| 05:04.51 | Sokomine | beepie: thanks for the hint with the microcode. i'm afraid the cpu is more like 2 years old |
| 05:05.04 | sideup66 | RaitoBezarius no, one line, its just one job |
| 05:05.21 | sideup66 | i want to execute it from cron again (service type of deal that doesn't have a formal service file basically) |
| 05:05.22 | DrPc | how to remove yxo.warmportrait.com maleware? |
| 05:05.27 | beepie | Sokomine, noticed here microcodes made a difference with an intel chip -- so its why i suggested it.. |
| 05:05.32 | sideup66 | and i want to restart it |
| 05:05.33 | beepie | Sokomine, you getting freezes or what? |
| 05:05.43 | sideup66 | i should make a service script, it would make life easier but im too lazy :p |
| 05:05.50 | Sokomine | beepie: x works very fine now again. but the fonts are really odd. might be that i'll have to change something there. individual pixels are now very fisible |
| 05:05.54 | Kayla | i use intel because lower tdp |
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| 05:06.27 | beepie | Sokomine, I mentioned "DisplaySize" -- contrary to what the name suggests, it actually deals with fonts |
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| 05:06.57 | beepie | Sokomine, I don't know if they fixed this, but the arch wiki is good for this -- If you can't set "DisplaySize" in userspace, then you'll need to use this directive in xorg.conf |
| 05:07.05 | beepie | Sokomine, and you should say "DisplaySize" for each monitor |
| 05:07.10 | beepie | Sokomine, but you'll have to calculate each |
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| 05:08.49 | Sokomine | beepie: guess i can re-use those displaysize values i calculated for the old config file :-) |
| 05:09.03 | aedinius | DebianGNU: plz forgive me. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=BDSrNJAH |
| 05:09.12 | screamindynomit | help buildin and installing this on rbpi git clone https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher.git |
| 05:09.41 | gerforce | beepie: all right. Thanks. And i don't think it's illegal. |
| 05:09.44 | beepie | Sokomine, that's a good idea |
| 05:09.51 | beepie | gerforce, good |
| 05:10.23 | beepie | gerforce, it shouldn't be, I mean I'm betting millions of people in china are using chrome anways XD |
| 05:11.05 | aedinius | Wait, that doesn't seem right. I have Chrome installed. (VRMS) |
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| 05:11.39 | DebianGNU | aedinius: https://paste.debian.net/262110/ |
| 05:12.38 | aedinius | No non-free or contrib packages installed on ariel! rms would be proud. |
| 05:12.41 | beepie | gerforce, is this blocked? http://www.google.cn/intl/zh-CN/chrome/browser/desktop/index.html |
| 05:12.44 | gerforce | beepie: absolutely |
| 05:12.56 | aedinius | ariel is clean. sihnon IS A WHORE |
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| 05:13.18 | aedinius | and if you ever watched Firefly, that'd make some sense. (sihnon is where inara came from) |
| 05:13.28 | screamindynomit | in china can they go to a site if they have the ip address? |
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| 05:13.59 | gerforce | beepie: anything with google have been blocked except Gmail being used on my ipad |
| 05:15.33 | Kayla | is grub boot loader necessary? |
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| 05:15.54 | aedinius | DebianGNU: for the record ariel is using absolutely NO binary blobs at all either. |
| 05:16.10 | aedinius | DebianGNU: I can't guarantee that the firmware is free/open, though |
| 05:16.19 | Kayla | if i dont install grub will automatically boot to debian |
| 05:16.21 | screamindynomit | help buildin and installing this on rbpi git clone https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher.git |
| 05:16.30 | screamindynomit | it refuses to build |
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| 05:17.13 | Psy-Q | i get a lot of systemd logspam every 30 minutes, it looks like in this gist. i have no cronjob that i can see running at those times, and i don't know why systemd would shut down from time to time (scary?) this is on a wheezy -> jessie server. what could it be? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/09deb06347b5477341f9 |
| 05:17.50 | Kayla | if i only use 1 os, do i need grub? |
| 05:18.19 | DebianGNU | aedinius: Who is ariel? |
| 05:18.19 | aedinius | DebianGNU: it seemas though as of 2006 the firmware is free! |
| 05:18.25 | aedinius | DebianGNU: ariel is one of my servers. |
| 05:18.36 | DebianGNU | I'm using a Libreboot X200. No non-free firmware here. |
| 05:18.40 | DebianGNU | :-) |
| 05:19.54 | aedinius | my machines are named after planets from firefly. i have muir, higgins, ariel, osiris, sihnon. my work computers are named after aircraft. prowler, mudhen. I also had hornet and hercules, but they're retired. |
| 05:20.25 | DebianGNU | Interesting naming scheme. Free all the machines! :-) |
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| 05:20.48 | beepie | Kayla, you should be able to do "update-grub<enter>" |
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| 05:21.01 | beepie | Kayla, on either Linux and it'll update an menu entry for the other linux |
| 05:21.05 | aedinius | DebianGNU: PowerMac3,3 |
| 05:21.24 | aedinius | DebianGNU: at least that's ariel. |
| 05:21.42 | aedinius | ariel replaced a dual hypersparc |
| 05:21.43 | beepie | Kayla, if you're not sure which grub boot loader config is used, then just issue update-grub on both linuxes .. that should fix it |
| 05:21.54 | aedinius | I haven't replaced her yet. |
| 05:22.00 | beepie | Kayla, (you don't need to do "grub-install" the command) |
| 05:22.16 | beepie | anyone here btw use logstash? |
| 05:22.22 | Kayla | ut-oh |
| 05:22.23 | beepie | is stuck on a problem with logstash |
| 05:22.25 | aedinius | My X200 still has the non-free firmware on it. |
| 05:22.28 | Kayla | i should have installed grub T.T |
| 05:22.40 | beepie | Kayla, you don't get multi-boot? |
| 05:22.50 | Kayla | no only single boot |
| 05:22.58 | beepie | Kayla, lilo? |
| 05:23.00 | DebianGNU | aedinius: It can be liberated |
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| 05:23.14 | aedinius | DebianGNU: Yeah, but I'd have to change OS I think |
| 05:23.21 | beepie | Kayla, i haven't used that in ages .. i suppose it might have some smart auto-detection |
| 05:23.28 | aedinius | DebianGNU: x200 has openbsd right now |
| 05:23.31 | DebianGNU | oh |
| 05:23.38 | screamindynomit | is stuck trying to build/install https://github.com/micahflee/torbrowser-launcher |
| 05:23.55 | aedinius | DebianGNU: I have considered librebooting it and installing trisquel |
| 05:24.21 | beepie | Kayla, you can always use the rescue-boot from the install media and install grub from there |
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| 05:24.32 | beepie | Kayla, i suppose it is bios, so the package would be grub-pc |
| 05:24.33 | aedinius | But I have way more non-free than vrms detected |
| 05:25.22 | beepie | Kayla, this takes no commands at all-- only once you choose the rescue chroot option, it's simply "apt-get install grub-pc" -- I'm assuming youre talking about this current linux login with "Debian" |
| 05:25.35 | DebianGNU | aedinius: I was using Trisquel. I've come to the dark side. |
| 05:25.47 | Kayla | yes |
| 05:26.05 | aedinius | DebianGNU: Dark side? |
| 05:26.22 | beepie | trisquel has something crappy in its librekernel that stutters the hardware i'm using -- making it unusable on my system unfortunately |
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| 05:26.43 | DebianGNU | aedinius: According to some. |
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| 05:26.55 | aedinius | DebianGNU: Such as? |
| 05:27.04 | Kayla | i think i have to reinstall using grub |
| 05:27.04 | Kayla | ugh |
| 05:27.05 | DebianGNU | beepie: Did you try upgrading to a later Linux-libre kernel? |
| 05:27.10 | beepie | DebianGNU, latest |
| 05:27.11 | aedinius | DebianGNU: Oh you mean Debian itself. |
| 05:27.17 | aedinius | I like Debian :( |
| 05:27.19 | DebianGNU | Yes |
| 05:27.21 | DebianGNU | Debian |
| 05:27.24 | DebianGNU | lol |
| 05:27.27 | beepie | DebianGNU, I mean it was weeks ago, I 've used Trisquel back from 6.x so i'm not new to it |
| 05:27.40 | DebianGNU | beepie: There are later kernels |
| 05:27.43 | aedinius | I find Debian is that happy medium. Free itself, but tolerant and accepting of the non-free |
| 05:27.48 | DebianGNU | Trisquel is based on the Ubuntu LTS |
| 05:27.51 | beepie | DebianGNU, though it was on and off -- I prefer not using it as a main desktop -- it's also based on Ubuntu |
| 05:27.57 | DebianGNU | It comes with a pretty out of date kernel |
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| 05:28.03 | Equa | Kayla: you need a boot loader to load your os. Use grub, lilo, and etc.. |
| 05:28.15 | Kayla | uooh |
| 05:28.22 | DebianGNU | it can be updated |
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| 05:28.27 | Kayla | i was confused because was using ubuntu mate |
| 05:28.28 | aedinius | I installed a few systems as ubuntu from the debian 6-7 freeze |
| 05:28.33 | Kayla | didnt bring me up to grub interface |
| 05:28.42 | Equa | Kayla: it's installed for you |
| 05:28.43 | Kayla | i really hate ubuntu even though fork for some reason |
| 05:29.20 | gerforce | After i updated to jessie, it cann't always login to the proper GUI. Have you ever encounterd this kind of problem? |
| 05:29.20 | beepie | Kayla, does the latest ubuntumate iso come with a boot-repair? (i think the default ubuntu one does) -- http://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair/?source=navbar |
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| 05:29.35 | beepie | Kayla, that's a 1-click boot fixer tool, maybe you want to try that -- it works across the main distros |
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| 05:30.06 | Kayla | i will just listen to beatles album while reinstalls.. |
| 05:30.07 | beepie | gerforce, try clicking the gear icon but after you clicked the username |
| 05:30.32 | Equa | Kayla: you can also use rescue mode to fix it |
| 05:30.55 | gerforce | beepie: sorry. i mean after i enter passwd |
| 05:30.55 | beepie | Kayla, you might want to check the "device" boot loader for grub (eg, is it really "/dev/sda" , or maybe it is a USB drive that is "/dev/sdb" -- you'll have to check it with the partitioning section) |
| 05:31.01 | beepie | Kayla, during install |
| 05:31.06 | aedinius | DebianGNU: don't hate me. I support and promote free software, but can't fully commit to it. |
| 05:31.25 | DebianGNU | aedinius: You'll get there! |
| 05:31.25 | beepie | Kayla, since you said you are reinstalling which I think is ridiculous.. if you think it is really just grub, you can try that boot-repair iso i linked |
| 05:31.26 | aedinius | DebianGNU: I'm lucky I can post what I can to github (under free licenses) |
| 05:31.26 | DebianGNU | :-) |
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| 05:32.03 | aedinius | Most recently, though not useful here. https://github.com/abenson/SetFirewall/blob/master/Set_Firewall.ps1 |
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| 05:32.19 | DebianGNU | I have friends that guilt me away from proprietary software. haha |
| 05:32.19 | sideup66 | ok |
| 05:32.21 | sideup66 | sorry |
| 05:32.23 | sideup66 | had to kick the gerbil |
| 05:32.25 | beepie | gerforce, the Desktop choices show up on the logon screen? -- there should be an gear icon or whatever displaymanager should offer the other desktops |
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| 05:32.42 | Kayla | i dont see any issue with proprietary software |
| 05:32.48 | beepie | Kayla, i do |
| 05:32.54 | beepie | Kayla, spyware |
| 05:33.17 | beepie | Kayla, privacy, security, no MS Windows backdoors |
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| 05:33.32 | aedinius | I'm so glad that our base system at work is Linux. We're expecting confusion when things are sent in LibreOffice's format and don't quite load on other's MSOffice. |
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| 05:33.52 | PETSounds | Hi. I am on Debian Jessie, sometimes startup services in KDE won't start on login. i need to restart the KDM or lightdm and then it will run. Which applications/service that causes this problem? |
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| 05:34.05 | aedinius | btw SetFirewall is an attempt a direct port of https://github.com/abenson/hostfw/blob/master/hostfw.sh |
| 05:34.27 | Kayla | those ms backdoors dont target home users |
| 05:34.31 | Kayla | and backdors work both ways |
| 05:34.35 | beepie | PETSounds, check /etc/xdg/autostart and anything -- "autostart" for ~ -- you'll have to check which path it is under your user's account as well |
| 05:34.39 | aedinius | hostfw works on anything 2.4 and later (I think), but SetFirewal require 8.1 or later |
| 05:34.44 | beepie | PETSounds, ~/.xsession-errors may reveal something |
| 05:34.53 | chenchacha | Hello someone encounter the Error in apt-get : |
| 05:34.55 | chenchacha | E: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/docbook-xsl/docbook-xsl_1.78.1+dfsg-1_all.deb Size mismatch |
| 05:34.55 | gerforce | beepie: you mean the display options like gnome classic,etc? yes, that displays ok. i mean after i enter the passwd it can't show me the proper destop. |
| 05:34.56 | PETSounds | beepie: ok i will check |
| 05:35.03 | gerforce | beepie: no icons, nothing. |
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| 05:35.18 | aedinius | chenchacha: 1. aptitude update 2. are you using a proxy |
| 05:35.37 | somiaj | chenchacha: sounds like a check is failing, could be a faulty mirror or a bad cache, try apt-get update then run again. If that doens't work try another mirror. The standard mirror suggested will be sent to you from a bot |
| 05:35.43 | somiaj | !tell chenchacha about http.debian.net |
| 05:35.46 | sideup66 | welp |
| 05:35.49 | sideup66 | router seems happy now |
| 05:35.53 | sideup66 | upnp is off too |
| 05:36.11 | beepie | gerforce, i've seen that before back in debian 7 -- you probably did a minimal install and decided to add applications later-- try this -> apt-get install task-gnome-desktop |
| 05:36.14 | chenchacha | aedinius: no proxy, aptitude encounter error too |
| 05:36.35 | aedinius | chenchacha: transparent proxy? |
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| 05:36.45 | aedinius | chenchacha: What was the error from update? |
| 05:36.50 | chenchacha | aedinius: No proxy |
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| 05:37.31 | gerforce | beepie: absolutly. i'll try then. |
| 05:37.51 | beepie | gerforce, gnome-flashback is the most Destkop(new name) for not having the Dock pop-up, this would be more ideal as a desktop than the classic, but you should still install task-gnome-desktop to make sure the base is fully set |
| 05:38.07 | chenchacha | somiaj: I've changed a lot of mirror |
| 05:38.32 | beepie | gerforce, ./is the more appropriate desktop than the "gnome-classic" -- // Debian has confused this since it was "classic" on Debian 7 which offered the same functionality |
| 05:38.54 | beepie | " gnome-flashback is the most Destkop" // "more appropriate" |
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| 05:39.23 | Kayla | can i download iwlwifi-7260-0.ucode and iwlwifi-7260-8.ucode and just stick it in flash for missing files |
| 05:39.27 | beepie | gerforce, when I mean dock pop-up, i mean placing the mouse cursor at the top-left and that annoying popup |
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| 05:39.33 | beepie | gerforce, can be avoided with gnome-flashback |
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| 05:40.08 | beepie | Kayla, that should already be packaged |
| 05:40.17 | Kayla | oh ok |
| 05:40.26 | beepie | Kayla, i think thats the free one.. i can see what package |
| 05:40.40 | gerforce | beepie: i just checked that i already installed task-gnome-desktop. |
| 05:40.49 | beepie | Kayla, apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 05:41.10 | beepie | Kayla, it's in non-free repository with jessie |
| 05:41.21 | beepie | Kayla, backports on wheezy |
| 05:41.55 | beepie | gerforce, dpkg -l task-gnome-desktop says it's complete? (apt-get -f install) |
| 05:42.00 | beepie | gerforce, that's odd |
| 05:42.36 | beepie | gerforce, for the hell of it you can also try gnome-session-fallback and see if this fixes anything missing |
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| 05:43.33 | beepie | gerforce, i think that used to be called classic |
| 05:45.02 | beepie | Kayla, dmesg |grep -i firmware , should mention that the firmware was loaded |
| 05:45.08 | beepie | Kayla, (after a system bootup) |
| 05:45.49 | beepie | Kayla, btw if you're using an extracted firmware and it's much newer than the driver, then that could be problematic just fyi |
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| 05:46.19 | gerforce | beepie: ok, this problem occurs randomly. So i will check later. |
| 05:46.23 | beepie | Kayla, don't think it is always the case but it can happen |
| 05:46.44 | beepie | gerforce, check your logs for any hardware events -- the drive could be dying |
| 05:47.04 | beepie | gerforce, (dmesg would say DRV ERR ) |
| 05:47.15 | beepie | lol |
| 05:47.30 | beepie | now that you say it is random, then it's likely not a software issue |
| 05:47.50 | beepie | gerforce, the only other thing i can think of is the nvidia driver |
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| 05:48.14 | beepie | gerforce, (disabling kms, etc.. the same ol procedure that never changes) ... this is an annoyance that doesn't go away |
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| 05:49.15 | beepie | gerforce, here i have two intel systems, and neither system worked with Debian's kernels at all. I had to manually compile the kernel from upstream... and everything worked perfectly |
| 05:49.24 | aedinius | for example. |
| 05:49.25 | beepie | gerforce, unfortunately |
| 05:49.30 | aedinius | [ 3.070422] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware iwlwifi-6000g2a-6.ucode |
| 05:49.34 | aedinius | [ 3.070639] iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: loaded firmware version 18.168.6.1 op_mode iwldvm |
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| 05:50.20 | aedinius | I should get non-intel |
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| 05:50.41 | beepie | intel is not the problem. It's the modifications debian patches upstream |
| 05:50.57 | beepie | intel's drivers are all stocked upstream.. so there's nothing "mysterious" :) |
| 05:50.57 | Kayla | so in otherwords |
| 05:51.05 | Kayla | i need vodka.. |
| 05:51.14 | gerforce | beepie: my laptop is intel-based. And it works pretty well when i am running Wheezy. |
| 05:51.15 | beepie | it happens with certain hardware -- my case has to do with "intel video" and not wireless as in Kayla's case |
| 05:51.23 | aedinius | Kayla: I'm a few beers in, so yeah |
| 05:51.32 | beepie | gerforce, yeah -- i'm relating to intel video (not nvidia) |
| 05:51.43 | beepie | intel video is built into the kernel package |
| 05:51.57 | aedinius | i like intel video |
| 05:52.08 | gerforce | beepie: o |
| 05:52.55 | beepie | gerforce, so i suppose it's intel video for you and not nvidia |
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| 05:53.29 | beepie | gerforce, i don't fully trust debian's kernels for intel video .. the problem occurs on 3+ year old hardware |
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| 05:54.03 | aedinius | beepie: jessie ran great on my 2008ish intel laptop (X3000 I thinkj) |
| 05:54.21 | gerforce | beepie: my video card is Nvidia Geforce series. |
| 05:54.28 | beepie | gerforce, occurred on debian 7 as well as debian 8.. completely across kernel editions -- but upstream -- poof right away no problem |
| 05:55.27 | beepie | gerforce, aedinius there's modinfo <module> --- especially useful for fixing audio (and maybe even video?) issues with laptops -- this is actually a very common problem for laptops on Linux |
| 05:55.59 | beepie | so you may like to look into that if you're having problems with audio/video (stutters, or random freezes) |
| 05:56.02 | somiaj | chenchacha: do you have a corrupt file sitting around in /var/cache/apt/archives? |
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| 05:57.17 | aedinius | beepie: intel video/audio is the only thing I've had work reliablyt |
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| 05:58.18 | beepie | aedinius, I have things working reliably on my main system (which rather uses "nvidia") here but only I after fully disable my onboard intel video XD |
| 05:58.23 | chenchacha | somiaj: maybe I can delete them? |
| 05:58.34 | beepie | aedinius, the two very (intel and nvidia) drivers seem to conflict no matter what i do |
| 05:58.35 | aedinius | One of my laptops has nvidia optimus, my only complaint is no displayport |
| 05:58.58 | RaitoBezarius | nVidia Optimus... was one of those things that made me hate nVidia |
| 05:58.59 | somiaj | chenchacha: the .deb in that dir are what was downloaded previousally. You can delete them, you can delete them all with apt-get clean. Personal preference if you like to keep a local copy of the .deb or not. |
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| 05:59.14 | aedinius | beepie: ah, went the opposite. disabled nvidia and went with intel solely |
| 05:59.17 | RaitoBezarius | It was so hard to make it work correctly on Linux... |
| 05:59.20 | beepie | aedinius, or rather X stutters for whatever reason since it detects a primary hdmi somewhere -- even though I don't think it's largely the drivers to blame but more on the X project |
| 05:59.44 | beepie | aedinius, it's aggravating because I've used X since 2001. |
| 05:59.54 | beepie | aedinius, so I think I know Linux well enough on what to do. |
| 06:00.00 | aedinius | That's cute. |
| 06:00.07 | beepie | aedinius, the X and graphic developers do not work along one another. |
| 06:00.16 | beepie | aedinius, much like KDE and GNOME developers don't. |
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| 06:00.54 | aedinius | Haven't used KDE |
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| 06:01.19 | DebianGNU | KDE ist bloatware |
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| 06:01.24 | DebianGNU | MATE master race |
| 06:01.33 | aedinius | Okay, honestly, I used KDE 1.x |
| 06:01.36 | gerforce | beepie: how long have you been working with linux? |
| 06:01.50 | beepie | gerforce, on and off actually from 98 lol |
| 06:01.58 | beepie | gerforce, before Virtualbox... |
| 06:02.04 | beepie | gerforce, and vmware... |
| 06:02.13 | beepie | gerforce, and wikipedia |
| 06:02.13 | gerforce | beepie: when i am 8 yeas old. ok |
| 06:02.17 | beepie | gerforce, lol |
| 06:02.25 | beepie | gerforce, much easier to day |
| 06:02.30 | beepie | gerforce, "today" |
| 06:02.48 | gerforce | beepie: thanks to the developers |
| 06:02.51 | beepie | gerforce, you've got much more tools to fix things -- autodetection is done by X unlike the older days |
| 06:02.51 | aedinius | I ran Linux from 1998 to 2000, then ran FreeBSD until 2004, then Linux again |
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| 06:03.04 | beepie | aedinius, cute |
| 06:03.05 | aedinius | Lots of OSX in between |
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| 06:03.22 | aedinius | Still use that damn Mac. |
| 06:03.22 | beepie | aedinius, I've done a triple boot here on a hackintosh |
| 06:03.29 | aedinius | oh. |
| 06:03.29 | Equa | beepie: good times back then. I installed slackware and didn't know how to setup it then and had to install windows to read docs |
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| 06:03.34 | beepie | aedinius, using the chameleon bootloader, it was rather cute |
| 06:03.35 | aedinius | I only singleboot |
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| 06:03.48 | DebianGNU | Max eX OS. I want to make it your ex-OS. |
| 06:03.54 | beepie | aedinius, you can share the same software raid drive OsX uses along with Linux mdadm raid without issues |
| 06:03.59 | DebianGNU | *Mac |
| 06:04.07 | aedinius | beepie: the mac is now a server. |
| 06:04.16 | beepie | aedinius, there's no guides online on how to do it -- but it's actually very safe |
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| 06:05.06 | aedinius | My Mac hasn't been able to run OSX in a few years |
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| 06:05.28 | gerforce | actually , i am using linux for nearly 2 yeas just for fun and i am little confused about the learning curve. |
| 06:05.50 | gerforce | because it is all windows around me. |
| 06:05.53 | RaitoBezarius | gerforce: The learning curve varies greatly. |
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| 06:06.02 | aedinius | Nov 14, 2007 |
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| 06:06.10 | sulit | hello, everyone |
| 06:06.12 | RaitoBezarius | gerforce: If you've been thrown on Gentoo, it would be hard. |
| 06:06.17 | beepie | setting up Debian on mac (done on mac mini 2012) is actually rather straight forward -- only tinker is to rename grubx64.efi to BOOTX64.efi and place it in another path.. no changes are needed for mac's efi firmware, it'll automatically look for bootx64 |
| 06:06.24 | RaitoBezarius | gerforce: But when you land on Ubuntu for the first time, it's cool and simple. |
| 06:06.48 | aedinius | At work we ran Ubuntu 8.04 for years. |
| 06:06.55 | sulit | i have a problem, hope that you can help me |
| 06:07.00 | aedinius | Retiring it soon, I hope |
| 06:07.07 | sulit | http://p3.lxd.cc/uploads/2015/06/apt_get.png |
| 06:07.25 | chenchacha | somiaj: 1.my sources.list only one line:deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main; |
| 06:07.25 | chenchacha | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.25 | chenchacha | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.25 | chenchacha | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:07.27 | sulit | i install git in debian amd64 |
| 06:07.44 | gerforce | When i am in college, the first system i learn is Solaris. Then i moved to redhat and then Debian |
| 06:07.50 | sulit | it show me deb size dismatch |
| 06:07.55 | aedinius | ChanServ: Change that to a real mirror |
| 06:07.57 | beepie | Equa, all that y2k nonsense how can anyone forget, .. and then there was 2012 |
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| 06:08.14 | aedinius | err |
| 06:08.17 | aedinius | damn it |
| 06:08.24 | beepie | Equa, slackware.. i'd have to try that someday.. not sure what all the fuss and snobbery goes around this thing called "arch" |
| 06:08.27 | aedinius | debhelper: TOO SOON |
| 06:08.34 | sulit | how can i resolve it? |
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| 06:09.16 | Equa | beepie: Everything was manually config. Arch linux is quite good. Their server is fast but I just don't like everything as a binary. |
| 06:09.39 | beepie | gerforce, there's opensolaris too and I've tried that I think in a virtualbox -- if i recall they dropped CDE and went with GNOME |
| 06:09.51 | sulit | http://p3.lxd.cc/uploads/2015/06/apt_get.png |
| 06:09.57 | aedinius | <3 CDE |
| 06:10.05 | sulit | can you help me? |
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| 06:10.17 | aedinius | Nostalgia |
| 06:10.20 | beepie | gerforce, it's good to have alternatives -- the FreeBSD has been garnering good feedback -- I get nice readings about it in magazines like linuxvoice -- but it works on limitted hardware |
| 06:10.37 | beepie | trusts linuxvoice! |
| 06:10.56 | DebianGNU | kernels left to themselves are always trouble |
| 06:11.00 | beepie | that magazine is great they cover distros on a regular basis |
| 06:11.13 | aedinius | i haven't seen a linux mag since 2002 :( |
| 06:11.41 | aedinius | i got real internet and stopped buying them for the CDs |
| 06:11.42 | beepie | this was goes completely CC after 9 months, .. it's already around the 15th edition so they're already available for the public domain |
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| 06:11.54 | beepie | (cc creative commons -- public domain) |
| 06:12.22 | beepie | i get the digital edition, it's much cheaper |
| 06:13.27 | somiaj | sulit: you are the second person I see how has this issue. My research says that it could be due to some proxy or network policy. |
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| 06:13.37 | beepie | yeah, it's completely available-- their link is up --- after 9 months the digital edition is completely free -- http://shop.linuxvoice.com/product/single-issue-1-rest-of-world |
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| 06:13.55 | somiaj | sulit: Just cause i'm courious do less /var/cache/apt/archives/git_2.1.4-2.1_amd64.deb (is that really a binry file or is just internet logs)? |
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| 06:14.21 | beepie | not sure where i saw the link -- it should be available lol |
| 06:14.33 | somiaj | seems there is a lot of off-topic chat that is hiding actual support questions. |
| 06:15.18 | gerforce | somiaj: sorry about that. |
| 06:15.46 | sulit | somiaj: i change many sources.list |
| 06:15.48 | somiaj | gerforce: it's fine. |
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| 06:16.05 | somiaj | sulit: my research says it may be somethign to do with the network you are on. |
| 06:16.07 | sulit | somiaj: then it still appears; |
| 06:16.40 | somiaj | sulit: so it isn't a mirror, it is your network (or isp, company). Anyawys will you run that less command and see if it is a text file or tons of gibbrish. |
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| 06:17.04 | sulit | somiaj: thank you |
| 06:17.43 | beepie | sources can be added easily hinted with netselect-apt |
| 06:17.52 | beepie | saves much aggravation |
| 06:18.02 | beepie | for the much impatient |
| 06:18.04 | beepie | !impatient |
| 06:18.08 | somiaj | beepie: the geoip redirecter is fairly good. |
| 06:18.29 | beepie | somiaj, sucks |
| 06:18.36 | beepie | somiaj, at least for me it is |
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| 06:18.51 | beepie | somiaj, for my 6mb/second connection |
| 06:18.54 | somiaj | but I think his issue is the actual file he is downloading is being altered by his network somehow, I want to see if the actual file is really a binary .deb or just some warning fomr his isp saying he can't download it |
| 06:18.59 | beepie | somiaj, 1mb/sec is too slow |
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| 06:23.53 | beepie | Sokomine, still here? that post you sent me tells me why you are having problems -- Samsung 8* SSD drives are blacklisted with the Linux kernel -- (so avoid them, or at least ensure you are definitely not trying to use "trim" with them) |
| 06:24.37 | beepie | Sokomine, https://blog.algolia.com/when-solid-state-drives-are-not-that-solid/ |
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| 06:25.44 | beepie | uses https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/drivers/ata/libata-core.c?id=9a9324d3969678d44b330e1230ad2c8ae67acf81 --- and says avoid blacklisted SSD DRIVES!!!! |
| 06:25.46 | beepie | ha! |
| 06:25.54 | beepie | !ping me |
| 06:25.55 | dpkg | tolls a 5-meter-bell over beepie's head |
| 06:26.00 | beepie | !beep |
| 06:26.00 | dpkg | it has been said that beep is echo -ne 'a', or aptitude install beep, or ask me about <bell>, <qotd89>. For the audio player, ask me about <bmp>. For the protocol framework, see http://beepcore.org/ |
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| 06:31.30 | beepie | hahaha |
| 06:31.33 | beepie | watches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_lhqg_p21k |
| 06:31.55 | beepie | @4:43 he thinks .dll and .exe files are viruses on linux |
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| 06:33.08 | somiaj | beepie: please remain on topic, this is a support channel. |
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| 06:37.44 | beepie | somiaj, your network speculations don't add up |
| 06:37.45 | beepie | XD |
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| 06:42.56 | arahael | I manage my passwords using keepass. Does it make any sense for me to also consider encryption for my documents and notes? |
| 06:43.28 | rabbitear | yes |
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| 06:43.39 | arahael | rabbitear: What product do you suggest? |
| 06:43.48 | arahael | rabbitear: (Full disk encryption is not feasible) |
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| 06:43.58 | rabbitear | gpp -- gnupg |
| 06:44.32 | rabbitear | thats a production of software that people use to encrypt files |
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| 06:44.59 | rabbitear | it was produced out of people writing the it |
| 06:44.59 | arahael | Yeah, I'm looking at what editors I can use with that. vim's gpg doesn't seem fantastic. |
| 06:45.27 | rabbitear | arahael: I used it exclusively |
| 06:45.43 | rabbitear | arahael: vim with the plugin |
| 06:45.58 | arahael | This one? http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=661 |
| 06:46.01 | Kayla | i never use encryption on wks |
| 06:46.31 | arahael | Kayla: What's "wks"? |
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| 06:46.49 | Kayla | workstation |
| 06:47.13 | rabbitear | arahael: yes, that is what I use |
| 06:47.18 | arahael | I use full disk encryption on all laptops I use, but this is my personal headless server. |
| 06:47.33 | Kayla | i only use on servers |
| 06:47.35 | arahael | rabbitear: Cool. It doesn't write the plaintext to disk, does it? |
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| 06:48.05 | arahael | Kayla: Fair enough. :) |
| 06:48.07 | DebianGNU | I could encrypt /boot, but it's a pain with libreboot. I encrypt everything else. |
| 06:48.11 | rabbitear | arahael: if you have all you're ducks in a row, you don't even have to type in the passphrase every time |
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| 06:48.50 | beepie | DebianGNU, it's possible to encrypt / containing "boot" but it takes special changes in /etc/default/grub --- It's tricky and not documented but I've done it |
| 06:49.26 | beepie | DebianGNU, it can only be done after an installation with /boot separate at first ,.. |
| 06:49.28 | arahael | DebianGNU: On the work laptops, I use whatever disk encryption mac os x has. But if I use disk encryption in linux - which tends to be servers - the darn thing doesn't even boot. |
| 06:49.47 | arahael | And encrypting user home directories in isolation seems to be a bit trickier. |
| 06:49.53 | DebianGNU | It requires a lot of trouble |
| 06:50.04 | beepie | DebianGNU, it can be done but it's not supported as an install option -- You see "grub" supports it as well, but I don't think the debian developers like this idea |
| 06:50.05 | DebianGNU | And all it protects extra is the kernel really |
| 06:50.08 | DebianGNU | it isn't worth it to me |
| 06:50.30 | arahael | DebianGNU: Agreed. The only thing it helps is if someone steals the system, while it's turned off. |
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| 06:50.41 | beepie | DebianGNU, actually not really it's pretty easy to do, but it takes a number of commands to transfter /boot over and it's tricky -- though it's easy once you've done it |
| 06:50.46 | arahael | And if someone's taking my computer, I've got bigger things to worry about. |
| 06:51.10 | DebianGNU | My data being protected is good enough for me. |
| 06:51.11 | DebianGNU | :-) |
| 06:51.25 | arahael | DebianGNU: Is it really protected though? |
| 06:51.26 | beepie | DebianGNU, you can always create a "checksum" of the files of "/boot" stored inside the encrypted container |
| 06:51.32 | beepie | DebianGNU, or on a usb key |
| 06:51.51 | DebianGNU | Is it really protected? Why not? |
| 06:52.05 | beepie | DebianGNU, it is good enough, you can even have "/boot" on a usb drive |
| 06:52.20 | beepie | DebianGNU, which usually won't take more than 50 megs ... |
| 06:52.29 | DebianGNU | I have libreboot, beepie |
| 06:53.03 | beepie | DebianGNU, uh |
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| 06:54.12 | beepie | libreboot |
| 06:54.13 | arahael | rabbitear: Hmm. Looks like the vim plugin uses temporary files. |
| 06:54.18 | DebianGNU | The maintainer of libreboot told me I'm fine encrypting the rest of the system. |
| 06:54.22 | arahael | rabbitear: Doesn't that defeat the point of encrypting them? |
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| 06:54.30 | nitzer_ | hey! is there any way to extend linux desktop to a smart tv over wifi? |
| 06:54.58 | valdyn | nitzer_: yes, but theres also special distros for that |
| 06:55.00 | DebianGNU | That encypting /boot basically protects the kernel |
| 06:55.37 | beepie | DebianGNU, libreboot is not in debian so good luck |
| 06:55.51 | beepie | DebianGNU, it's not supported on debian |
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| 06:56.31 | DebianGNU | My system boots |
| 06:56.42 | beepie | so? |
| 06:56.56 | beepie | you can even use grub4dos |
| 06:57.02 | beepie | but it's not supported on debian |
| 06:57.06 | DebianGNU | So what if it's "not supported"? What's your point? |
| 06:57.13 | beepie | nobody here would be using it |
| 06:57.31 | DebianGNU | okay? I have #libreboot to consult. |
| 06:57.38 | beepie | as i said good luck. |
| 06:57.41 | DebianGNU | lol |
| 06:57.50 | DebianGNU | I'm not asking questions about it |
| 06:57.52 | DebianGNU | or asking for support |
| 06:57.53 | beepie | you want to be stubborn for an easier solution, can't help you :) |
| 06:58.05 | DebianGNU | I don't want any solution from you. |
| 06:58.08 | beepie | :) |
| 06:58.08 | DebianGNU | I didn't ask |
| 06:58.10 | DebianGNU | lol |
| 06:58.11 | beepie | ciao! |
| 06:58.14 | beepie | noob! |
| 06:58.20 | DebianGNU | boob |
| 06:58.27 | DebianGNU | :-) |
| 06:59.03 | DebianGNU | I was merely chit chating. Not asking for help. |
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| 06:59.25 | beepie | chat is a french word for cat |
| 06:59.37 | beepie | pussyboy |
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| 06:59.44 | beepie | yawns and meows away |
| 06:59.46 | DebianGNU | I have my system setup just fine, thank you |
| 06:59.49 | DebianGNU | lol |
| 06:59.49 | Filystyn | is RFS/RSP set by default in linux ? |
| 06:59.58 | calher | GO LIBRE OR GO HOME |
| 07:00.00 | beepie | "head8debian> no "away" in #debian please" |
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| 07:00.02 | beepie | ^ lol |
| 07:00.13 | beepie | head8debian, fix your irc bot you fool |
| 07:01.15 | themill | beepie: please find that signal:noise setting of yours and improve it. We've already been through this. |
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| 07:01.41 | nitzer_ | valdyn: yes? whichone? i'd like to use it on my main laptop |
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| 07:03.49 | DebianGNU | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn8gealMDsg |
| 07:04.08 | beepie | themill, you should tell DebianGNU to use encryption the Debian-way, as I was trying to explain him. |
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| 07:04.53 | DebianGNU | beepie: I'll continue using libreboot and encrypting the rest of my disk via the installer. |
| 07:05.03 | DebianGNU | I'm doing just fine, thank you. |
| 07:05.22 | arahael | beepie: Why should it matter? |
| 07:05.39 | DebianGNU | My system is pure Debian. Bite me. |
| 07:05.45 | arahael | beepie: He is evidently fully capable of maintaining and supporting his own system. |
| 07:05.47 | beepie | arahael, to me it doesn't, but its very easy, if he doesn't that is perfectly fine. I don't care. |
| 07:06.01 | arahael | beepie: That is a contradition. |
| 07:06.05 | themill | maybe you could not care in silence. |
| 07:06.16 | beepie | digresses from arahael's annoyance. |
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| 07:16.35 | Kayla | ok |
| 07:16.47 | Kayla | am trying to install t440 wireless drivers, could someone please help |
| 07:17.43 | Equa | Kayla: have you installed firmware-iwlwifi? |
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| 07:18.17 | Kayla | says "apt=get firmware-iwlwifi" |
| 07:18.27 | Kayla | invalid operation |
| 07:18.44 | Equa | you need to add non-free in your source.list |
| 07:18.48 | Kayla | okie |
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| 07:19.05 | Equa | Kayla: apt-get firmware-iwlwifi |
| 07:19.12 | beepie | Kayla, did you try dmesg |grep -i firmware? -- mentioned this to you awhile ago -- it'll say if the firmware is loaded |
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| 07:19.37 | calher | Equa: Do not lead our brother/sister astray. |
| 07:20.04 | beepie | Kayla, i also said it's in "non-free" |
| 07:20.04 | Equa | calher: xd. Just got back and saw that. If someone is helping him... i'll step aside |
| 07:20.12 | beepie | Kayla, so be sure to have that non-free repository set |
| 07:20.25 | Kayla | yeah i have to chagne that file in nano |
| 07:20.27 | beepie | Kayla, then apt-get update, than apt-get install firwmare-iwlwifi |
| 07:20.40 | calher | This is like watching a drug deal. |
| 07:21.04 | beepie | Kayla, is this jessie or wheezy? |
| 07:21.13 | DebianGNU | https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb |
| 07:21.18 | Kayla | but it says iwlwifi detefirmware failed to load iwlwifi-7260-8.co |
| 07:21.21 | Kayla | and jessie |
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| 07:21.39 | beepie | Kayla, ok, and remember i said if the firmware is too new, much newer than the driver then that could be an issue as well |
| 07:21.55 | beepie | Kayla, I'm assuming you might be using that extracted firmware.. are you? |
| 07:22.02 | beepie | Kayla, XD |
| 07:22.04 | calher | You should get a WiFi card that Respects Your Freedom. RYF or GTFO. |
| 07:22.23 | beepie | Kayla, are you using an extracted/downloaded firmware outside of debian non-free? |
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| 07:22.37 | Kayla | yes non free firmware |
| 07:22.43 | DebianGNU | https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb |
| 07:22.46 | Kayla | but cant to much about it as integrated |
| 07:22.59 | beepie | Kayla, but from the "non-free" repository? You mentioned sooner about manually downloading a firmware file |
| 07:23.11 | beepie | Kayla, be sure you're using what is from the repository only |
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| 07:23.44 | Kayla | i dont change resp to support non free ? |
| 07:24.28 | calher | Kayla: Our Dear Leader RICHARD STALLMAN used external cards. |
| 07:24.44 | Kayla | i am not richard stallman |
| 07:25.01 | DebianGNU | If non-free isn't "part of Debian", why is it supported in #debian? |
| 07:25.16 | themill | calher, DebianGNU: enough, thanks |
| 07:25.36 | beepie | Kayla, yes i mean you can "add" non-free .. of course. |
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| 07:26.10 | beepie | Kayla, in Linux people manually download files and use "cp" which can cause problems with what is available from the repositories (non-free+main+contrib) |
| 07:26.39 | calher | I can't switch to Debian. Debian assists people in compromising their freedom. |
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| 07:27.24 | Kayla | all lenovo boards are anti freedom.. |
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| 07:28.19 | Kayla | and again, doors work both ways |
| 07:28.48 | DebianGNU | How are lenovo boards all anti-freedom? |
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| 07:29.17 | themill | how is this relevant to debian user support? |
| 07:29.26 | Kayla | there are parts of boards sawdered in used as backdoors |
| 07:29.54 | DebianGNU | Yes, but the Libreboot X60 and X200 took care of that. |
| 07:30.01 | DebianGNU | by removing the offending parts |
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| 07:30.27 | Kayla | look i really need to use this for development |
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| 07:30.44 | Kayla | and is imperitive that i get wifi card working |
| 07:30.59 | DebianGNU | https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb |
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| 07:35.15 | Kayla | i dont have money to buy external wireless card |
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| 07:37.02 | beepie | themill, gn |
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| 07:37.17 | somiaj | Kayla: what wifi card do you have? |
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| 07:38.02 | Kayla | iwlwifi-7260-8.uco |
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| 07:39.24 | somiaj | Kayla: that is not a wifi card, what card do you have? I have the intell 7260 working just fine here with the non-free firmware from the debian repo. |
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| 07:41.37 | Kayla | intel centrino 7260 (wilkins peak 2 ac) 2x2 ac + bt 4.0 |
| 07:41.46 | Kayla | thinkpad wireless 2x2 bgn + bt 4.0 |
| 07:42.09 | somiaj | What version of debian and what kernel are you using? |
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| 07:43.16 | Kayla | 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 07:43.18 | Kayla | jessie |
| 07:43.27 | Kayla | i have intel chip why does say amd64? |
| 07:43.44 | somiaj | that is just the codename used for all x86_64 arch |
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| 07:44.04 | somiaj | anyways, do you have the iwlwifi firmware pacakge installed? |
| 07:44.04 | Kayla | oh thankyou |
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| 07:44.54 | Kayla | no |
| 07:45.16 | Kayla | i cant do it without allowing non free packages but i forgot how |
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| 07:45.40 | somiaj | Kayla: I would just install that package so you get firmware that works with the driver. |
| 07:45.48 | Equa | Kayla: use an editor and modified /ect/apt/source.list |
| 07:45.57 | somiaj | Kayla: you can manually download packages from packages.debian.org, or you can remove non-free once you are done installing the firmware |
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| 07:47.16 | Equa | Kayla: http://paste.debian.net/262137/ your source.list should look like that |
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| 07:49.29 | nitzer_ | que pajapi |
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| 07:50.02 | somiaj | Kayla: you could also extract the package dpkg -x and just copy over the firmware, or if you know exactly which firmware version you need you can download it from intel (they usually tell you the version you need for paticular kernel versions) |
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| 07:53.21 | Kayla | ok i save file |
| 07:53.29 | Kayla | here is origional file so i can edit it |
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| 07:53.35 | Equa | Kayla: now do apt-get update |
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| 07:54.17 | Equa | Kayla: apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 07:54.31 | calher | n |
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| 07:55.17 | Kayla | ... |
| 07:55.27 | calher | DebianGNU says "That's not good, hackers. That's not good." |
| 07:55.38 | Kayla | package firmware-iwlwifi is not available but is referred to by another package |
| 07:55.50 | Kayla | i think i need to move the nano the actual source |
| 07:55.55 | Kayla | well directory |
| 07:56.08 | Equa | you need to modify /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 07:56.58 | Equa | Kayla: are you in the US? |
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| 07:57.39 | Kayla | yes usa |
| 07:57.52 | Kayla | am using lxde so hard to navigate |
| 07:57.59 | Equa | Kayla: i love lxde |
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| 07:58.07 | Kayla | i try using term to find |
| 07:58.17 | Equa | Kayla: just open lxterminal and type |
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| 07:58.25 | Equa | sudo nano /etc/apt/source.list |
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| 07:59.06 | Kayla | the file is blank? |
| 07:59.22 | Equa | Kayla: wrong one |
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| 07:59.47 | Equa | Kayla: are you a sudo user or do you switch to root to do root stuff? |
| 08:00.39 | Kayla | swift to root |
| 08:00.44 | Equa | then just type |
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| 08:00.46 | Kayla | havent put in sudoers file yet |
| 08:00.55 | Equa | nano /etc/apt/source.list |
| 08:01.30 | Kayla | still blank.. |
| 08:01.39 | Equa | now that's odd |
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| 08:01.50 | Equa | use the file on paste bin and write to it |
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| 08:02.33 | Equa | Kayla: http://paste.debian.net/262137/ copy and paste that into it and save. then do a pastebin paste of cat /etc/apt/source.list for me |
| 08:02.50 | Kayla | like the trashcan? |
| 08:03.19 | Equa | Kayla: see the link i gave you ? go to that website and copy that into your source.list file |
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| 08:05.24 | Equa | Kayla: after you save the file. just do cat /etc/apt/source.list if you see what you saved. then we're ready for the next step |
| 08:08.04 | Equa | Kayla: oh sorry my fault. went to check the file again. it's /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 08:08.04 | somiaj | Equa: because the flie is /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 08:08.04 | Equa | somiaj: yeah, just checked that |
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| 08:09.09 | Kayla | ooh. |
| 08:09.12 | Kayla | let me redo that lol |
| 08:09.21 | Equa | Kayla: sorry XD |
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| 08:11.57 | Kayla | is ok |
| 08:12.01 | Kayla | let me proof read one sec |
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| 08:13.09 | Equa | Kayla: Do apt-get update. Then apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi. Reboot and you should be fine. |
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| 08:13.35 | Kayla | ok do i save it |
| 08:13.37 | Kayla | then apt get? |
| 08:13.45 | Equa | Kayla: yes save it first |
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| 08:15.07 | Kayla | invalid operation apt-get iwlwifi |
| 08:15.11 | somiaj | Kayla: apt-get update |
| 08:15.19 | Kayla | oh |
| 08:15.30 | somiaj | Kayla: followed by 'apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 08:15.51 | Equa | Kayla: 1. apt-get update. 2. apt-get install fireware-iwlwifi. 3. reboot the machine |
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| 08:16.38 | somiaj | or jsut reload the module |
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| 08:16.56 | Equa | Kayla: either way works. whatever is easier for you |
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| 08:17.29 | Kayla | says is refered by another package or source |
| 08:17.32 | Kayla | do i reboot? |
| 08:17.41 | Equa | Kayla: not yet. it's not installed |
| 08:18.01 | Equa | Kayla: the one you downloaded might have conflicted with it. Remove those files first |
| 08:18.28 | themill | You need to read and understand the entire output not just one phrase somewhere in the middle. |
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| 08:19.34 | Kayla | so how do i delete the package that is referred to |
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| 08:20.15 | Equa | Kayla: didn't you install some files manually or extract fireware for it ? |
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| 08:20.32 | Kayla | i try early on |
| 08:20.42 | Kayla | apt-get iwlwifi-firmware |
| 08:20.50 | Equa | Kayla: undo those. then try to install again |
| 08:20.56 | Equa | oh you got the name reversed |
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| 08:21.10 | Equa | Kayla: apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 08:21.33 | Kayla | no i mean |
| 08:21.40 | Kayla | i enter that command before come for you help |
| 08:22.06 | themill | and that will have told you it was an invalid operation |
| 08:22.09 | somiaj | apt-get iwlwifi-firmware would have done nothing to your system except sput out an error. |
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| 08:22.28 | Equa | Kayla: do lsmod and paste the output to paste.debian.net for me |
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| 08:24.32 | Kayla | pastebin/y7DrrEh8 |
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| 08:26.08 | Equa | Kayla: can't read that. Let's download it manually |
| 08:26.21 | Equa | Kayla: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/firmware-iwlwifi/download |
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| 08:26.42 | Equa | Kayla: click on ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
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| 08:27.54 | Equa | Kayla: once you got the file. Go to the directory and type dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.43_all.deb |
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| 08:29.28 | hexnewbie | I finished my coffee, reading the cups tells me that the sources.list is either still empty, or the package lists for non-free are not downloaded. |
| 08:29.34 | somiaj | Equa: he pasted it, he just didn't put the .com, iwlwifi is loaded jsut the firmware is missing, find that via dmesg | grep firmware |
| 08:30.17 | somiaj | yea, useful output from Kayla would be a copy of the sources.list file, 'cat sources.list' |
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| 08:31.09 | Equa | somiaj: thanks somiaj |
| 08:32.14 | Kayla | am i supposted to extract that? |
| 08:32.40 | Kayla | or run in term |
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| 08:33.21 | hexnewbie | Kayla: The package is installed with: dpkg -i /path/to/file.deb |
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| 08:34.24 | hexnewbie | Kayla: Of course, replacing /path/to/file with wherever the file is located and is named (firmware-iwlwifi.......deb) |
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| 08:36.00 | Kayla | so confused.. |
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| 08:36.43 | Equa | Kayla: where did you download to file to ? |
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| 08:36.50 | Kayla | downloads |
| 08:37.04 | hexnewbie | Kayla: What is the full path to downloads? |
| 08:37.30 | Equa | Kayla: go into that directory and just type dpkg -i firmware-iwlwifi_0.43_all.deb |
| 08:38.05 | Equa | hexnewbie: think it's his home folder ~/Download |
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| 08:38.59 | hexnewbie | Equa: I am a little bit weary to suggest dpkg -i /home/*/*ownload*/firmware-iwlwifi_0.43_all.deb :) |
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| 08:39.25 | Equa | hexnewbie: hehe. that's why i asked him to just go there. makes it easier on us both :D |
| 08:39.31 | Kayla | ok is done |
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| 08:39.52 | Equa | Kayla: if no error from the output just reboot your system |
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| 08:43.16 | Kayla | wifi still not working :/ |
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| 08:45.28 | hexnewbie | Kayla: Just to be sure, can you pastebin the output of: dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 08:48.08 | Kayla | i did and is say |
| 08:48.38 | Kayla | firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 08:48.44 | Kayla | binary firmware for intel wireless |
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| 08:49.18 | hexnewbie | what are the first two letters on that line? |
| 08:49.48 | Kayla | otpions marked produce alot of out put pipe it through less or more |
| 08:50.15 | Kayla | dpkg -l firemware-iwlwifi desired unkown/install/remove/purge/hold |
| 08:50.15 | dpkg | No packages found matching firemware-iwlwifi desired unkown/install/remove/purge/hold |
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| 08:50.33 | Kayla | status not inst conf files unpacked half conf half inst trig await |
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| 08:52.02 | hexnewbie | Kayla: The first two letters of the line you half-pasted :) |
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| 08:52.09 | hexnewbie | Kayla: Not of the entire output |
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| 08:52.50 | Kayla | what should i have typed |
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| 08:53.38 | themill | exactly what you see and not a summary of it |
| 08:54.40 | hexnewbie | Kayla: The first two letters of the line giving the name and description of the package show its status - if it is installed, they would be "ii" |
| 08:55.25 | Kayla | so shoudl be like |
| 08:55.34 | Kayla | dpkg -ll firmware-iwlwifi? |
| 08:55.35 | dpkg | Kayla: i haven't a clue |
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| 08:56.28 | Kayla | so should have been iikg? |
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| 08:56.54 | hexnewbie | Kayla: No, I am talking about the output from `dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi'. It should say `ii firmware-iwlwifi ...'. |
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| 08:58.52 | Kayla | i am so confused |
| 08:58.54 | Kayla | sorry guys |
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| 09:00.30 | Equa | Kayla: do dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi and paste the first line after +++-==============-============-============-================================= |
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| 09:00.47 | Equa | the -l <--- is a lowercase L |
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| 09:02.22 | Kayla | what first line goes after um |
| 09:02.38 | Equa | see those +++-==== line? |
| 09:02.41 | quarterback | Hello, there are sendmail installation errors with apt-get install sendmail, Here is the log. http://pastebin.com/1ij8MiSM . Could anybody help with sendmail installation? |
| 09:02.43 | Kayla | oh |
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| 09:05.46 | Kayla | i notice i have two i's infront of firmware |
| 09:05.47 | Kayla | is that bad |
| 09:05.57 | themill | that's fine |
| 09:06.55 | Equa | Kayla: that means it's installed |
| 09:07.02 | hexnewbie | Kayla: Then the package is installed, did you reboot? |
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| 09:07.22 | Kayla | am reboot again now |
| 09:07.25 | Kayla | already rebooted |
| 09:07.33 | hexnewbie | Kayla: No need to reboot twice :) |
| 09:07.35 | Equa | Kayla: did you install the default stuff for lxde? |
| 09:08.08 | Kayla | yeah my lxde doesnt detect wireless |
| 09:08.26 | Equa | Kayla: you looked under wicd? |
| 09:08.42 | Kayla | mhm |
| 09:08.43 | TJ- | Kayla: Can you pastebin "/var/log/syslog" ? |
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| 09:10.31 | Kayla | shows up blank in nano |
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| 09:11.14 | Equa | Kayla: just give the output for dmesg |
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| 09:11.59 | quarterback | Anybody familiar with sendmail here |
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| 09:12.34 | themill | quarterback: is there a reason you actually want sendmail? It's not the most pleasant mailer daemon to deal with |
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| 09:13.00 | quarterback | thmill: I can use postfix or sendmail but am not sure how to configure both of them. |
| 09:13.09 | TJ- | Equa: I was after seeing what is happening after boot-time ... the driver may be fine but the userspace config might be failing to do a scan, or rfkill might be blocking, etc. |
| 09:13.25 | valdyn | quarterback: mail is hard, read a few days |
| 09:13.42 | quarterback | themill: I get installation errors in sendmail, my irc services provider anope recommends sendmail |
| 09:13.47 | themill | quarterback: what are you trying to achieve? |
| 09:14.01 | quarterback | themill: set up nick registration for an ircd with an MTA |
| 09:14.26 | themill | so anything that sends mail via /usr/sbin/sendmail is probably fine |
| 09:14.39 | quarterback | themill: Yes, that is fine |
| 09:14.58 | quarterback | themill: Syntax for sendmail is /usr/sbin/sendmail -t |
| 09:15.04 | themill | does it actually need to delivery the mail or can it pass it off to some other MTA elsewhere? |
| 09:15.11 | themill | s/y// |
| 09:15.28 | quarterback | themill: It needs to actually deliver the mail than use another smtp relay. |
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| 09:15.57 | Kayla | it wont let me do paste pin |
| 09:15.59 | Kayla | hold on |
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| 09:16.22 | themill | quarterback: exim, which is the default MTA, is easy enough to configure for that. You'd install exim4-daemon-light and dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config. |
| 09:16.41 | quarterback | themill: Does that work with anope? |
| 09:17.17 | Equa | TJ-: ty. Waiting on the output to see what's wrong with it. |
| 09:17.48 | themill | quarterback: it supports sendmail -t |
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| 09:18.31 | quarterback | themill : Please explain something here, irrespective of which MTA I have, do I have to write /usr/sbin/sendmail -t for sending emails? |
| 09:18.50 | Kayla | pastebin.com/EhJTbwQp |
| 09:18.54 | themill | sendmail -t is the standard way of pushing an email to the MTA |
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| 09:19.10 | quarterback | themill: Hmm I see, thanks for explaining this. |
| 09:19.33 | themill | (and just about every MTA supports sendmail -t |
| 09:19.49 | quarterback | themill: I have to try setup exim then. |
| 09:20.25 | quarterback | themill: Do you have ssh access? |
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| 09:20.31 | Kayla | hold on ill get |
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| 09:22.14 | Kayla | okie |
| 09:22.40 | quarterback | themill: What should the settings for exim? internet site with smtp? |
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| 09:22.54 | quarterback | themill: What should be the settings for exim? internet site with smtp? |
| 09:23.03 | hexnewbie | Kayla: From a first glance, your wireless appears to be working. Now getting the GUI tools to work with it is a whole another thing... |
| 09:23.06 | Kayla | i thought ssh is just root and username |
| 09:23.12 | Kayla | or ip |
| 09:23.44 | hexnewbie | Kayla: Personally, I just install wicd-gtk and go with it. |
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| 09:24.11 | quarterback | themill: Can I Pm you? |
| 09:24.13 | Kayla | i usually use teamview |
| 09:24.15 | Kayla | mhm |
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| 09:24.50 | TJ- | Kayla: Can you do "ls -l /var/log/ | nc termbin.com 9999" ("-l" is a lower-case L) and tell us the URL you get? |
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| 09:26.18 | Kayla | could we use teamview |
| 09:26.33 | Equa | Kayla: yeah, just like hexnewbie said... your driver for wifi is fine. Think you just need to setup your wifi with your router. |
| 09:26.34 | Kayla | i have only use ssh once |
| 09:26.48 | Kayla | router? |
| 09:27.00 | Kayla | dear god |
| 09:27.07 | Equa | Kayla: you don't have a wifi router? |
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| 09:28.38 | Equa | Kayla: supply wicd with your SSID and password for it. You should be able to see it on the listing |
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| 09:29.49 | quarterback | themill: I installed exim4-light, now testing email delivery. |
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| 09:30.44 | cybrNaut | how can i find out /all/ apps that can handle a filetype? I tried "xdg-mime query filetype application/pdf" but it gave "xdg-mime: file 'application/pdf' does not exist" |
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| 09:31.51 | Kayla_ | voila |
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| 09:34.59 | Kayla_ | yeah i am not allowed to connect to router through laptop :"/ |
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| 09:37.03 | km0201 | anyone else having trouble accessing freenode from xchat? I can get here via the freenode webclient just fine.. but xchat just doesn't want to connect. |
| 09:38.18 | Equa | Kayla_: at least your wifi is ready when you want to use it |
| 09:38.54 | quarterback | the mill: Are you here? |
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| 09:39.32 | cybrNaut | wonders if the ?OTR? xchat bug has been fixed |
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| 09:39.35 | Kayla_ | i dont think is ready to use |
| 09:39.43 | Utils | Can someone please explain to me what the / importance is at the end of an IP. For instance... x.x.x.0/20 but I've also seen x.x.x.0/24, and the bigger the range you want to block, the less the number is for instance x.x.0.0/16 |
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| 09:40.08 | TJ- | Utils: research "CIDR" :) |
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| 09:40.09 | Equa | Utils: it's a shorthand for the subnet mask |
| 09:40.29 | Kayla_ | it doesnt detect any wireless networks |
| 09:40.36 | hexnewbie | Utils: You can also install ipcalc |
| 09:40.40 | Equa | Kayla_: do you have any near you? |
| 09:40.44 | Kayla_ | yes |
| 09:40.48 | Kayla_ | by my router |
| 09:40.57 | Equa | Kayla_: is your router a wifi? |
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| 09:41.34 | TJ- | Kayla_: does the PC also have a wired Ethernet port ? You could connect that directly to the router |
| 09:41.53 | Kayla_ | yes but i have to use for school |
| 09:42.49 | TJ- | Kayla_: when WiFi problems occur it is really helpful to connect wired Ethernet so as to be able to collect and share diagnostic information easily |
| 09:42.50 | Utils | Thanks TJ- Equa & hexnewbie. CIDR is what it is :D |
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| 09:43.30 | Kayla_ | how do i do that? |
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| 09:44.31 | Equa | Kayla_: use a cable to connect yourself to the router throu your lan port |
| 09:45.11 | TJ- | Kayla_: First, you would need to have an Ethernet cable (most routers come with at least one), then you'd connect it between the Ethernet RJ45 ports on the PC and the Router's LAN port(s). |
| 09:45.46 | Kayla_ | how will that help me with wifi problems though |
| 09:45.49 | Equa | Kayla_: check if you toggled your wifi to off mode. |
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| 09:46.23 | Equa | Kayla_: once you are connected to the internet. It's easier to copy and paste output from that computer making it easier to work thru the problem |
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| 09:47.17 | TJ- | Kayla_: Because you're already wasted an hour on this! With the wired connection you can directly connect that PC to the network and send us copies of key log files so we can diagnose the issue accurately, rather than trying to guess from your non-technical reports |
| 09:47.57 | Kayla_ | what reports do you want |
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| 09:48.24 | Equa | Kayla_: it's just for future reference. |
| 09:48.28 | TJ- | Kayla_: I want to see the syslog, as I said earlier, plus I'd like to be sure the PC has a full set of system log files in /var/log/ |
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| 09:49.05 | Equa | TJ-: you need to specified the name of the file. He's still new to linux |
| 09:49.06 | Kayla_ | can you team view in so you can see them |
| 09:49.22 | TJ- | Equa: I did, earlier, but apparently the file was empty |
| 09:49.42 | Equa | TJ-: ya but you used generic name. he's still new and don't know what syslog.0.log is |
| 09:50.17 | Equa | TJ-: oh nm. it's just syslog |
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| 09:52.20 | TJ- | Kayla_: Equa We have a syslog pastebin from earlier which might be the correct one - Kayla_ can you confirm this is from the problem PC? http://pastebin.com/EhJTbwQp |
| 09:53.27 | r6ku | KM0201: xchat was discontinued in 2010, I don't think there's anyone left using it, try hexchat instead |
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| 09:53.40 | TJ- | Kayla_: Equa If it is (joy@April) then the iwlwifi driver is working, and the PC has a Gigabit Ethernet port which is being used from time to time |
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| 09:53.43 | KM0201 | r6ku: well, i must be one of the few. |
| 09:53.46 | Equa | TJ-: ya that's his dmesg log |
| 09:53.48 | quarterback | themill: Are you able to send emails with exim4-light? |
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| 09:53.54 | KM0201 | never been a huge fan of hexchat.. but i've got the problem resolved anyway |
| 09:54.11 | Equa | TJ-: everything seems ok even the wifi. He's just not seeing any network |
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| 09:55.29 | TJ- | Equa: syslog should show signs of a scan being done because the regulatory domain is updated |
| 09:56.53 | Equa | Kayla_: still here? if you don't mind giving us the output of cat /var/log/syslog |
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| 09:57.27 | TJ- | Kayla_: At the terminal can you do: "sudo iwlist scan" ? If Wifi is receiving you should see reports of the Access Point |
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| 09:58.31 | Equa | TJ-: he's using root acct. we can skip the sudo |
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| 09:58.41 | Kayla__ | etho, wlan and lo doesnt supposrt scanning |
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| 09:58.44 | TJ- | Equa: I'm covering all eventualities! |
| 09:58.47 | Kayla__ | except wlan network is down |
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| 09:59.30 | Kayla__ | i dont have a root accnt |
| 09:59.39 | TJ- | Kayla__: OK, that's plain wrong. wlan0 should support scanning. Which Debian release is installed? |
| 09:59.40 | Kayla__ | have to manually root |
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| 09:59.54 | Equa | Kayla__: @-@ last time i put sudo for you and you told me you used root acct so i dropped all the sudo |
| 10:00.13 | Kayla__ | no |
| 10:00.23 | Kayla__ | my account isnt in sudo file |
| 10:00.40 | TJ- | Ahhh, now we're getting somewhere! |
| 10:01.36 | TJ- | Kayla__: initiating a scan requires superuser privileges, otherwise "iwlist scan" will only show cached results from a previous scan. So that explains that. |
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| 10:02.18 | TJ- | Kayla__: Which Debian release is installed? |
| 10:02.25 | Kayla__ | 8.1 jessie |
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| 10:03.30 | TJ- | Kayla__: Thanks, and which desktop environment are you using? |
| 10:03.37 | Kayla__ | lxde |
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| 10:04.18 | bazhang | mint? |
| 10:04.46 | Kayla__ | mint is ubuntu+cin |
| 10:04.51 | Kayla__ | i am using jessie+lxde |
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| 10:05.06 | bazhang | lxde/openbox? |
| 10:05.13 | Kayla__ | pure lxde |
| 10:05.29 | KM0201 | lxde is based on openbox, is it not? |
| 10:05.34 | KM0201 | so "pure lxde" is openbox |
| 10:05.45 | r6ku | correct :) |
| 10:05.53 | KM0201 | lol |
| 10:06.02 | KM0201 | i thought maybe i was misunderstood |
| 10:06.20 | KM0201 | granted, i like lxde.. but i just use it.. don't care about the nuts and bolts |
| 10:06.33 | TJ- | I'm not familiar with the LXDE tool-set unfortunately, but if you don't have sudo privileges then the user session tools will need to be using the system-dbus in order to initiate many of the operations required to scan and connect to WiFi. |
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| 10:06.36 | KM0201 | but i've grown fond of xfce, so that's what i use now. |
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| 10:07.07 | Kayla__ | so i cant get wifi with lxde... |
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| 10:07.20 | Equa | Kayla__: you can add yourself as a sudo user or use the root acct to set it up |
| 10:07.41 | Equa | Kayla__: i use lxde and i can get wifi |
| 10:08.12 | TJ- | Kayla__: I'd be very suprised if you can't! I'm just stating how the plumbing works to enable such things for unprivileged users. It explains why some terminal commands didn't provide useful output. |
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| 10:08.46 | Equa | TJ-: i'm amaze that he can install packages |
| 10:09.00 | Kayla__ | .. |
| 10:09.09 | Kayla__ | okie dokie so how i do this |
| 10:09.12 | Equa | Kayla__: i mean with under priv user |
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| 10:09.39 | Equa | Kayla__: do u want to add yourself as sudo user? |
| 10:09.45 | Kayla__ | mhm |
| 10:10.05 | Kayla__ | i did it once before |
| 10:10.07 | SynrG | Someone said wicd earlier. Don't assume Debian lxde uses that. I think it includes NM by default |
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| 10:10.23 | Equa | Kayla__: switch to a super user like root. adduser yourname sudo |
| 10:10.34 | TJ- | SynrG: Thank-you. If that's the case we can use "nmcli" in a terminal to get definitive info |
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| 10:10.36 | Equa | SynrG: i have lxde. It uses wicd now |
| 10:10.58 | TJ- | Equa: Is Network Manager not installed at all, then? |
| 10:11.01 | Equa | SynrG: i dind't install it though. Minimal build with all configuration by file |
| 10:11.06 | SynrG | It can. But does it by default in jessie? |
| 10:11.10 | r6ku | the lxde metapackage *recommends* either wicd or NM |
| 10:11.14 | Equa | SynrG: yes it comes with default |
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| 10:11.41 | Equa | NM is for wheezy. on jessie it's wicd |
| 10:12.04 | KM0201 | just curious, why do you want to use sudo? |
| 10:12.09 | KM0201 | why not just use root when you need it? |
| 10:12.16 | Kayla__ | i want sudo |
| 10:12.22 | Kayla__ | pretty pls |
| 10:12.23 | SynrG | I see. |
| 10:12.31 | Equa | KM0201: Kay wants to use sudo so i'm teaching him how to add himself |
| 10:12.34 | KM0201 | Kayla__, that's fine, just... i dunno, seems pointless to me |
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| 10:12.51 | KM0201 | Equa, understandable... just.. i dunno... so "Ubuntu.." |
| 10:12.52 | KM0201 | lol |
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| 10:13.15 | Equa | KM0201: oh really? i dind't really like ubuntu. I'm just used to not using root acct |
| 10:13.30 | Kayla__ | ok fine |
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| 10:13.33 | Kayla__ | no root account |
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| 10:13.45 | KM0201 | Equa, different strokes for different folks i guess.. just not a huge fan of sudo.. |
| 10:14.01 | Kayla__ | just want to make wifi work first |
| 10:14.05 | KM0201 | i'm not sure i remmeber sudo ever being around, until Ubuntu |
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| 10:14.10 | Equa | KM0201: i used to use root. I switched to sudo about 3-4 years ago and didn't hcange back |
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| 10:14.34 | Equa | KM0201: all preference anyway |
| 10:14.40 | KM0201 | Equa, of course. |
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| 10:15.01 | RaitoBezarius | KM0201: Why do you mean by using root when you need it ? |
| 10:15.06 | KM0201 | Kayla__, whats your wireless device? |
| 10:15.15 | RaitoBezarius | KM0201: su-ing into root and doing the sudo stuff ? |
| 10:15.15 | Equa | RaitoBezarius: he means u can just do su |
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| 10:15.21 | Kayla__ | wireless device is.... |
| 10:15.22 | hexnewbie | TBH neither su nor sudo are better - if your user account gets compromised, so does your root one. Either way. Logging in as root on a console is the only secure, but crazily inconvenient way. |
| 10:15.22 | Equa | then switch to root and do whatever you need |
| 10:15.23 | RaitoBezarius | Equa: Oh ok ! |
| 10:15.23 | KM0201 | RaitoBezarius, ... if i need root, i switch to root? |
| 10:15.32 | Kayla__ | 7260 |
| 10:15.34 | Kayla__ | intel |
| 10:15.45 | Kayla__ | rev b |
| 10:15.47 | KM0201 | intel 7260? never heard of that one. |
| 10:15.50 | RaitoBezarius | KM0201: No, maybe you were referring to another method that I didn't know! Sorry! |
| 10:15.55 | KM0201 | RaitoBezarius, no prob |
| 10:15.59 | Kayla__ | hold on have to look it ups |
| 10:16.19 | KM0201 | Kayla__, is this an internal device? I assume it is, since it's intel |
| 10:16.31 | Equa | KM0201: we got his driver setup. He just need a super-user to do a iwlist scan |
| 10:17.01 | Kayla__ | intel centrino 7260 wilkins peak 2 ac, thinkpad wireless |
| 10:17.30 | hiexpo | internal |
| 10:17.40 | KM0201 | typically nm-applet doesn't superuser to see networks |
| 10:17.49 | KM0201 | pretty sure lxde uses nm-applet |
| 10:17.59 | SynrG | no. as Equa corrected ... |
| 10:18.04 | SynrG | jessie defaults to wicd now |
| 10:18.15 | SynrG | check the lxde metapackage deps. wicd is listed first in the alternatives |
| 10:18.20 | KM0201 | hmm |
| 10:18.50 | KM0201 | i'm using jessie/xfce, and it's still using nm-applet... must be an xfce thing |
| 10:19.06 | SynrG | xfce is not lxde :) |
| 10:19.41 | KM0201 | SynrG, i thought you mean tit was default across the board (since you said "jessie..") |
| 10:19.56 | KM0201 | i've not used lxde in a while.. |
| 10:20.09 | SynrG | KM0201: i did specifically mention lxde ... |
| 10:20.21 | SynrG | yeah, sorry. if you missed the earlier discussion, you would be confused |
| 10:20.22 | r6ku | I haven't used lxde in a while either, although I never had problems with getting wicd to work on it |
| 10:20.52 | Kayla__ | can we just do this lol |
| 10:20.53 | SynrG | i *have* seen people get horribly confused installing both, however. |
| 10:21.07 | SynrG | it's fine. it was just important to have the helpers on the same page. |
| 10:21.08 | KM0201 | SynrG: ... been there done that long, long ago |
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| 10:21.43 | hexnewbie | SynrGy: Well, I've had apt install nm after I installed wicd a long time ago. |
| 10:21.53 | SynrG | Kayla__: i believe where we left things off is you need to login as root? |
| 10:21.54 | TJ- | The PC with the problems is "DMI: LENOVO 20B6009TUS/20B6009TUS, BIOS GJET78WW (2.28 ) 07/29/2014" with "iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Wireless N 7260, REV=0x144" |
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| 10:22.06 | KM0201 | hexnewbie: yeah |
| 10:22.14 | Kayla__ | ok im root |
| 10:22.19 | Equa | NM was he default long ago |
| 10:22.22 | SynrG | and type: iwlist scan |
| 10:22.25 | Equa | *the |
| 10:22.40 | Kayla__ | ok typed iwlist scan |
| 10:22.48 | SynrG | did you see your AP listed? |
| 10:23.02 | Kayla__ | no |
| 10:23.09 | Equa | Kayla__: should give you a bunch of SSID / channel and so on |
| 10:23.14 | Kayla__ | just etho wlan and lo |
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| 10:23.31 | SynrG | ok. and no APs listed, i assume |
| 10:23.31 | KM0201 | .. |
| 10:23.31 | Equa | do ip a |
| 10:23.38 | Equa | SynrG: i think his wifi is down |
| 10:23.44 | KM0201 | agrees |
| 10:23.53 | SynrG | rfkill turned off? |
| 10:24.03 | Kayla__ | ok gave me lots of stuff |
| 10:24.07 | Kayla__ | how i kill rfkill off |
| 10:24.10 | TJ- | SynrG: I asked that earlier not sure if we got a response |
| 10:24.11 | Kayla__ | whats the id |
| 10:24.29 | TJ- | Kayla__: "rfkill list" |
| 10:24.59 | SynrG | Kayla__: i wasn't suggesting you turn it off, but suggesting to the other helpers maybe it is turned off ... |
| 10:25.23 | Equa | Kayla__: if you saw a bunch of stuff with iwlist scan... then your wifi is working |
| 10:25.23 | Kayla__ | says mostly no's |
| 10:25.25 | Kayla__ | and some yes |
| 10:25.36 | TJ- | Kayla__: OK, tell us *precisely* |
| 10:25.50 | TJ- | Kayla__: Which lines report "yes" ? |
| 10:26.02 | Kayla__ | -:tpaci_bluetooth_sw: bluetooth |
| 10:26.05 | Kayla__ | softblock no |
| 10:26.07 | Kayla__ | hardblocked no |
| 10:26.11 | r6ku | Kayla__: better yet, pastebin the outputs and post them here https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 10:26.12 | Kayla__ | hci0 bluetooth |
| 10:26.15 | Kayla__ | softblocked no |
| 10:26.17 | Kayla__ | hardblocked no |
| 10:26.22 | Kayla__ | phy0 wireless lan |
| 10:26.24 | Kayla__ | softblocked yes |
| 10:26.27 | Kayla__ | hardblocked no |
| 10:26.28 | KM0201 | .. |
| 10:26.29 | KM0201 | zing |
| 10:26.34 | RaitoBezarius | too late |
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| 10:26.52 | TJ- | Kayla__: "rfkill unblock phy0" |
| 10:27.10 | SynrG | Kayla__: it is our convention to use paste.debian.net to paste more than a couple of lines of output at a time, please. |
| 10:27.18 | SynrG | keeps the channel uncluttered. |
| 10:27.33 | KM0201 | or install pastebinit and do it automatically |
| 10:27.40 | SynrG | or nopaste ;) |
| 10:27.45 | SynrG | (which has sane defaults) |
| 10:27.45 | TJ- | Kayla__: That might not work; instead of "phy0" put the index number that was shown in front of "phy0" when you did the 'list' command |
| 10:28.09 | KM0201 | never tried nopaste |
| 10:28.14 | SynrG | !nopaste |
| 10:28.14 | dpkg | nopaste is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install libapp-nopaste-perl; nopaste /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | nopaste". |
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| 10:29.17 | KM0201 | SynrG: looks more or less the same as pastebinit |
| 10:29.35 | Kayla__ | so.. |
| 10:29.38 | TJ- | Tip: "nopaste <(commands to run | via pipes | and maybe with sudo)" is often more readable for newbies |
| 10:29.42 | Kayla__ | am i screwed... |
| 10:29.45 | SynrG | KM0201: more or less. but for a long time, pastebinit in debian didn't default to paste.debian.net. nopaste always has. |
| 10:30.03 | KM0201 | SynrG: yeah, i actually remember those days... |
| 10:30.15 | KM0201 | Kayla__: why would you be screwed? |
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| 10:30.29 | TJ- | Kayla__: did you do "rfkill unblock 2" instead of "rfkill unblock phy0" ? |
| 10:30.30 | Kayla__ | am sad wifi will never work lol |
| 10:30.44 | Kayla__ | i am to type that? |
| 10:30.47 | Equa | Kayla__: you're almost there. follow a few more steps |
| 10:30.51 | TJ- | I'm guessing now that 'phy0' is on index 2 |
| 10:30.51 | KM0201 | i'm still not entirely convinced this is an intel device, has anyone verified that? it's very uncommon for intel to not work out of the box. |
| 10:31.05 | TJ- | KM0201: verified 100% |
| 10:31.09 | TJ- | The PC with the problems is "DMI: LENOVO 20B6009TUS/20B6009TUS, BIOS GJET78WW (2.28 ) 07/29/2014" with "iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: Detected Intel(R) Wireless N 7260, REV=0x144" |
| 10:31.10 | KM0201 | TJ-: ok |
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| 10:31.22 | Kayla__ | doi i type phy0 or 2 |
| 10:31.28 | TJ- | Kayla__: "2" |
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| 10:31.56 | Kayla__ | ok done and done |
| 10:31.59 | Kayla__ | and chip is by intel |
| 10:32.04 | TJ- | Kayla__: When you did "rfkill list" each device was prefixed with an index number. I'm guessing as you showed the bluetooth device first it has index 1 and the phy0 for the Wifi has index 2 |
| 10:32.06 | Kayla__ | i34200u |
| 10:32.16 | Kayla__ | or |
| 10:32.19 | TJ- | Kayla__: OK *now* do "iwlist scan wlan0" |
| 10:32.20 | Kayla__ | u4050 |
| 10:32.23 | Equa | TJ-: you might watn to see the pastebin of it instead |
| 10:33.00 | TJ- | Equa: Yeah... that'll be the fallback if this doesn't come up with anything :) |
| 10:33.02 | Kayla__ | iwlist scan wlan0 doesnt work |
| 10:33.27 | TJ- | Kayla__: "doesn't work" doesn't tell us anything. What doesn't work? Do you see an error message? Does it simply not return results? |
| 10:33.41 | Kayla__ | says |
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| 10:33.55 | Kayla__ | unkown command 'wlan0' check 'iwlist' == help |
| 10:34.17 | TJ- | Kayla__: Sorry! My mistake lol! "iwlist wlan0 scan" |
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| 10:34.37 | KM0201 | chuckles |
| 10:34.46 | Kayla__ | wlan0 interace doesnt support scanning network is down |
| 10:34.52 | Equa | TJ-: lol. i typed source.list earlier instead of sources.list |
| 10:34.56 | Kayla__ | ir emember in kali you could disable certain interfaces |
| 10:35.01 | Kayla__ | can you bring them back up? |
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| 10:35.50 | TJ- | Kayla__: That is a very unexpected message, can you pastebin the output of "iwconfig" please? |
| 10:35.52 | SynrG | didn't we just determine phy0 is softblocked? so isn't this just a matter of toggling the wifi back on by the laptop's Fn-key for it? |
| 10:36.22 | TJ- | SynrG: Kayla__ just did "rfkill unblock 2" |
| 10:36.25 | Equa | SynrG: yeah but the way Kayla__ paste and give details. we can't be sure it's in order |
| 10:36.33 | TJ- | Equa: True! |
| 10:36.38 | KM0201 | lol |
| 10:36.38 | SynrG | but with confusing/incomplete pastes ... |
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| 10:36.41 | SynrG | i'm unconvinced |
| 10:36.45 | SynrG | yeah. what Equa said |
| 10:36.51 | TJ- | Kayla__: Can you also pastebin the output of "rfkill list" please? |
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| 10:40.42 | Kayla__ | http://pastebin.com/v5ts6Lb7 |
| 10:40.48 | Kayla__ | sorry it made me make an account |
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| 10:43.16 | KM0201 | make an account? |
| 10:43.34 | Kayla__ | yes i had to make pastebin account to continue using their site |
| 10:43.46 | KM0201 | ... never heard of that, but ok |
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| 10:44.05 | KM0201 | what's the output of rfkill list |
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| 10:44.42 | TJ- | Kayla__: can you also pastebin the output of "iwconfig" please? |
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| 10:45.57 | SynrG | Kayla__: i'm sorry you went through that (making an account). it does sound strange to me, too. also, we explicitly recommended paste.debian.net |
| 10:46.02 | SynrG | !pastebin.com |
| 10:46.03 | dpkg | pastebin.com mangles input, takes forever to load, often makes us enter a CAPTCHA to see your paste and fills the screen with ads. Please use a different site, like http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 10:46.21 | Kayla__ | pastebin.com/GnjQhfN4 |
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| 10:47.05 | Kayla__ | ok i use debian for now on |
| 10:47.08 | SynrG | looks fine to me |
| 10:47.15 | KM0201 | yeah |
| 10:47.16 | TJ- | Kayla__: can you pastebin the output of "rfkill list" please? |
| 10:47.18 | KM0201 | rfkill list |
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| 10:48.47 | Kayla__ | paste.debian.net/262246 |
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| 10:49.19 | KM0201 | that's still iwconfig.. that looks fine |
| 10:49.41 | KM0201 | Kayla__: we need the output of rfkill list |
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| 10:50.46 | Kayla__ | oh sorry |
| 10:50.51 | Kayla__ | thoought that was it |
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| 10:52.59 | Kayla__ | paste.debian.net/262363 |
| 10:53.43 | Equa | Kayla__: you forgot list |
| 10:53.51 | TJ- | Kayla__: "rfkill list" |
| 10:53.54 | Equa | rfkill list |
| 10:54.16 | Kayla__ | is that not it? |
| 10:54.26 | Equa | you forgot list so it's just showing the help menu |
| 10:55.04 | Kayla__ | should be in there |
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| 10:55.09 | Kayla__ | commands: help event |
| 10:55.19 | KM0201 | Kayla__: that's just the outpu tof rfkill |
| 10:55.24 | KM0201 | need the output of rfkill list |
| 10:55.30 | Kayla__ | how i do that |
| 10:55.38 | KM0201 | .. type rfkill list |
| 10:55.41 | KM0201 | then copy/paste it |
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| 10:56.55 | Kayla__ | i clear new terminal |
| 10:56.58 | Kayla__ | and not working |
| 10:57.10 | KM0201 | what's not working? |
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| 10:57.26 | Kayla__ | rfkill list |
| 10:57.40 | KM0201 | ok, is it just giving no output, or are you getting an error, or what? |
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| 10:58.02 | Kayla__ | idk i just clear the terminal and nothing comming up |
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| 10:58.53 | KM0201 | now i'm really confused |
| 10:59.15 | KM0201 | are you logged in as root on the new terminal? |
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| 10:59.34 | TJ- | Kayla__: Do you see a prompt "root@April:/home/joy#" ? |
| 10:59.59 | Kayla__ | oh ok |
| 11:00.02 | Kayla__ | wasnt rooted |
| 11:00.05 | KM0201 | .. :) |
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| 11:01.27 | Kayla__ | paste.debian.net/262365/ |
| 11:01.57 | KM0201 | weirrrddd |
| 11:02.17 | SynrG | have we done this whole exercise without a reboot? |
| 11:02.27 | Kayla__ | i will reboot |
| 11:02.42 | TJ- | KM0201: I'm wondering if the device is only using 802.11a |
| 11:02.55 | SynrG | i wonder if the firmware even loaded. did we confirm that? |
| 11:03.08 | KM0201 | SynrG: .. same |
| 11:03.23 | TJ- | SynrG: KM0201 "iwlwifi 0000:03:00.0: firmware: direct-loading firmware iwlwifi-7260-9.ucode" |
| 11:03.27 | KM0201 | hopefully the reboot will make it load and all will be happy |
| 11:03.34 | SynrG | anyway, at some point we need to confirm from a fresh reboot everything works |
| 11:03.45 | KM0201 | yeah.. good a time as any |
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| 11:08.40 | TJ- | From what I'd reading there's a problem (bug) with interaction between bluetooth and wifi phys... some users's report 'rfkill block bluetooth' allows the WiFi to detect and connect correctly |
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| 11:09.47 | SynrG | strangeness |
| 11:09.57 | KM0201 | i don't have bluetooth, so ot sure on that |
| 11:10.49 | TJ- | That firmware version -9 supposedly fixes a lot of issues with the 7260, too |
| 11:12.01 | Kayla__ | wifi and bluetooth worked fine on ubuntu |
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| 11:12.59 | SynrG | Kayla__: not as useful a data point as you might think, though |
| 11:13.26 | SynrG | different kernels, etc. |
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| 11:13.49 | Kayla__ | dont wanna have to download kernel.. |
| 11:13.54 | Kayla__ | T/T |
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| 11:16.01 | Kayla__ | so there is no way we can make the net work? |
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| 11:17.49 | r6ku | if you managed to get it working on ubuntu then I don't see why you couldn't do the same on debian |
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| 11:19.05 | Kayla__ | debian uses open source drivers |
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| 11:19.09 | Kayla__ | or |
| 11:19.11 | Kayla__ | ubuntu |
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| 11:19.35 | jonkristian | Any clean way of changing from 32 to 64-bit? Or should I re-install everything? |
| 11:19.50 | KM0201 | jonkristian: reinstall |
| 11:19.56 | jonkristian | Alright :) |
| 11:20.00 | bazhang | full reinstall jonkristian |
| 11:20.10 | jonkristian | Thanks guys |
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| 11:21.16 | KM0201 | i'm still confusedon kayla's wireless issue. |
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| 11:21.43 | TJ- | KM0201: me three! |
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| 11:22.25 | TJ- | KM0201: As I said earlier I wonder if its to do with the frequencies the router is using. We might have one device using 802.11a and the other using 802.11g |
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| 11:22.53 | Kayla__ | i am just moving to bsd |
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| 11:23.43 | KM0201 | TJ-: it's possible, but it would still see the network, wouldn't it? just wouldn't be able to connect |
| 11:23.49 | Kayla__ | i checked the reqrencies of router |
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| 11:24.29 | Kayla__ | anyway guys |
| 11:24.31 | Equa | Kayla__: if i put N mode only... a & g devices can't see it |
| 11:24.32 | Kayla__ | thanks for help |
| 11:24.35 | Kayla__ | gn :) |
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| 11:24.57 | TJ- | KM0201: not necessarily. %.xGHx vs 2.4GHz |
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| 11:25.08 | TJ- | KM0201: not necessarily. 5.xGHx vs 2.4GHz |
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| 11:25.19 | KM0201 | hmm |
| 11:25.34 | Equa | TJ-: he should pick up neibors though... |
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| 11:26.00 | TJ- | KM0201: that's why I wondered if the 7260 was only scanning on 1 band, 802.11a (5.xGHz) which wouldn't see any 2.4GHz APs |
| 11:26.01 | KM0201 | assuming he has some, thats true |
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| 11:27.06 | TJ- | But I discounted that based on a pastebin output from iwconfig: "wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn" ... although I'm not sure how 'accurate' that 'bgn' is |
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| 11:27.59 | TJ- | The dmesg output showed cfg80211 was, at least initially, using both bands |
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| 11:29.09 | r6ku | what happened here? shouldn't installing the drivers be enough to get wifi working? |
| 11:29.33 | Equa | r6ku: most caste for his device, yes |
| 11:29.36 | Equa | *case |
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| 11:32.05 | GPenguin | how can i troubleshoot a wifi connection that is established but web pages dont load? as soon as i plugin my ethernet cable everything works as expected |
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| 11:32.56 | KM0201 | GPenguin: what wireless chipset are you using? |
| 11:33.20 | at0m|c | route issue? |
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| 11:34.15 | TJ- | GPenguin: Can you ping by IP address but not by hostname? If so, it's a DNS issue |
| 11:34.20 | GPenguin | Etheros AS9285 |
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| 11:35.09 | Jippi | Hi - do anyone in the debian ecosystem maintain .deb packages for latest kernel.org releases - e.g. wheezy is stuck on 3.2.65 - would like to get closer to mainline if possible |
| 11:35.11 | KM0201 | i was just reading something about issues w/ the ath9k having random issues. |
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| 11:35.48 | Jippi | I know ubuntu got their http://kernel.ubuntu.com/ repo, but not sure how good they work with debian |
| 11:36.05 | at0m|c | Jippi: do not mix these repo's! |
| 11:36.36 | Jippi | at0m|c: oh, why not? I hoped someone in the debian ecosystem maintained something similar |
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| 11:37.04 | GPenguin | had to disable the firewall so i can ping |
| 11:37.37 | at0m|c | Jippi: i installed kernel 4. this week, needed >3.19 for a piece of hardware here |
| 11:37.39 | GPenguin | google.de is correctly resolved to an IP but the ping got no echo |
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| 11:38.34 | Jippi | at0m|c: I’m in a similar position, just across 40 servers, so would like to find a deb package I can roll with if possible |
| 11:38.46 | Jippi | at0m|c: but the ubuntu kernel seem to be the only repo available with recent kernels |
| 11:38.57 | at0m|c | Jippi: read more here https://wiki.debian.org/HowToUpgradeKernel |
| 11:39.53 | at0m|c | Jippi: there's kernels that are being readied for next release, there's testing kernels etc. if you run 40 servers, i assume you can work your way through dependencies? |
| 11:40.13 | linuxd | bubblemon shows a memory usage of 59%(9.8/16.4GB)isn't it sort of a high rate? |
| 11:40.24 | Jippi | at0m|c: the ubuntu kernel only needed libc6 to install, not sure what the downside to using theirs are though |
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| 11:41.19 | GPenguin | so, what can i do? |
| 11:41.56 | Jippi | at0m|c: never compiled a kernel on debian, only on freebsd :) |
| 11:42.03 | GPenguin | i can ping my gateway but not other hosts, neither in the localnet nor on the internet |
| 11:42.28 | TJ- | GPenguin: is the default route missing? |
| 11:42.53 | GPenguin | seems alright |
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| 11:43.26 | Equa | GPenguin: are you on the wifi ? sometimes the router is set enable wireless isolation |
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| 11:43.45 | TJ- | GPenguin: can you "tracepath -n 4.4.4.4" and see any devices outside your local network router? |
| 11:44.01 | GPenguin | Equa: i am not on the router anymore cause the connection itself works |
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| 11:44.35 | TJ- | GPenguin: can you pastebin "ip route show" ? |
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| 11:44.56 | ochiottes | GPenguin: show the outputs of "ip r s" and "ip a s" to determine your routes and ip addresses |
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| 11:45.36 | GPenguin | i would have to plugin the ethernet device to do that |
| 11:46.06 | GPenguin | and no TJ- all counts say: no reply |
| 11:46.07 | ochiottes | GPenguin: Also, do you have a DHCP server issueing IP-addresses? add the content of /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 11:46.39 | GPenguin | i configured IPv4 with a static IP and added gateway and dns |
| 11:47.03 | TJ- | GPenguin: Do "ip route show > /tmp/routes.txt" then plug in and pastebin the file "/tmp/routes.txt" |
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| 11:48.31 | GPenguin | ip r s -> 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0 scope link metric 1000 | 192.168.2.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.2.4 |
| 11:48.35 | Jippi | at0m|c: can’t find antyhing newer than linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 for wheezy as official packages |
| 11:48.55 | TJ- | GPenguin: so no default route then |
| 11:49.13 | GPenguin | but "route" showed the default route |
| 11:49.45 | TJ- | GPenguin: "sudo ip route add default dev wlan0" |
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| 11:50.05 | linuxd | bubblemon shows a memory usage of 59%(9.8/16.4GB)isn't it sort of a high rate? |
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| 11:50.07 | ochiottes | TJ-: no |
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| 11:50.27 | ochiottes | GPenguin: "ip r a default via 192.169.2.1 dev wlan0" |
| 11:50.38 | ochiottes | *192.168.2.1 |
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| 11:51.38 | ochiottes | GPenguin: Also you probably might want to delete that existing route for wlan0 |
| 11:52.00 | ochiottes | "ip r d 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0" |
| 11:52.30 | GPenguin | no change |
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| 11:52.48 | GPenguin | well, the default route is there but the packets wont travel |
| 11:52.51 | at0m|c | Jippi: you can install kernels from testing etc |
| 11:53.11 | ochiottes | GPenguin: please pastebin the complete output of ip rs to pastebin.com or similar |
| 11:53.19 | at0m|c | Jippi: just don't get from ubuntu repo's. they're also .deb's, but not for debian. |
| 11:53.29 | Jippi | at0m|c: testing kernel is 3.16 - too old :) - unless I’m missing something from here: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=arm64&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image-3.1 |
| 11:53.32 | TJ- | ochiottes: good point, thanks :) |
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| 11:53.56 | ochiottes | :) |
| 11:54.44 | at0m|c | Jippi: do you know what kernel version supports your hardware? |
| 11:54.49 | TJ- | GPenguin: local netfilters rules maybe? |
| 11:54.59 | Jippi | at0m|c: the vendor recommends 4.0.x |
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| 11:55.15 | ochiottes | TJ-: seems like a simple routing problem |
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| 11:56.02 | GPenguin | iptables is disabled |
| 11:56.20 | Jippi | at0m|c: latest 3.x could also work - has to be newer than 3.18 |
| 11:56.50 | GPenguin | oh man. now the crap does not work via eth0 |
| 11:56.54 | TJ- | ochiottes: that was my thought but GPenguin said the default route as there |
| 11:57.09 | TJ- | GPenguin: I think this is down to how you are manually configuring networking |
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| 11:58.40 | GPenguin | this shit drives me crazy. sorry! i need a smoke |
| 11:59.10 | ochiottes | GPenguin: I can't help without a paste of "ip r s" |
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| 11:59.42 | Jippi | at0m|c: found this guide on how to make a deb for latest kernel.org release - http://www.tecmint.com/kernel-compilation-in-debian-linux/ - should I just roll with that? :) |
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| 12:00.54 | at0m|c | Jippi: or grab from https://packages.debian.org/unstable/kernel/ |
| 12:00.58 | at0m|c | there's 4. |
| 12:01.37 | at0m|c | dpkg -i will complain about depends. find the corresponding .debs and dpkg -i them |
| 12:01.38 | dpkg | removes a lung from at0m|c and replaces it with will complain about depends. find the corresponding .debs and dpkg -i them |
| 12:02.12 | Jippi | at0m|c: oh |
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| 12:03.14 | at0m|c | that's what i rolled on 3 machines here this week |
| 12:04.32 | Jippi | at0m|c: okay, going to try that if building my own custom kernel is going foobar |
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| 12:05.50 | Jippi | at0m|c: thanks for the help! :) |
| 12:05.59 | at0m|c | you're welcome. |
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| 12:11.35 | GPenguin | http://paste.debian.net/262454/ |
| 12:11.51 | GPenguin | what other information do you need? |
| 12:12.36 | ochiottes | GPenguin: now delete that second wlan0 route, it's not its real ip address |
| 12:12.52 | ochiottes | GPenguin: do: "ip r d 169.254.0.0/16 dev wlan0" |
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| 12:14.24 | ochiottes | GPenguin: if eth0 is your ethernet device it needs its own route. so, you'll have to add a route for eth0, too. then eth0 will work again |
| 12:15.08 | GPenguin | i just disable eth0 when i want to use wifi and vice versa. is that a problem? |
| 12:15.42 | ochiottes | GPenguin: did you delete that 169. route? |
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| 12:16.02 | Jippi | at0m|c: my custom kernel worked - nicely done - thanks again! :) |
| 12:16.10 | at0m|c | Jippi: congrats :) |
| 12:16.17 | Jippi | suprisingly easy |
| 12:16.36 | at0m|c | you compiled in like 10 minutes? wow |
| 12:16.37 | GPenguin | ochiottes: now i did |
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| 12:17.00 | GPenguin | no change |
| 12:17.04 | ochiottes | is it gone from "ip r s" output? |
| 12:17.09 | Jippi | at0m|c: 8 cores, is it fast? |
| 12:17.10 | GPenguin | its gone, yes |
| 12:17.17 | at0m|c | Jippi: yes |
| 12:17.33 | at0m|c | took me many hours last i tried |
| 12:17.40 | ochiottes | GPenguin: show your ip addresses with "ip a s" |
| 12:17.43 | Jippi | at0m|c: just used one of these; http://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-lt |
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| 12:18.28 | GPenguin | i have to replug again, make the paste, etc. |
| 12:18.35 | Jippi | at0m|c: was just headers + image |
| 12:18.42 | at0m|c | sweet |
| 12:18.48 | ochiottes | GPenguin: your other wlan0 route is faulty, too |
| 12:18.54 | Jippi | at0m|c: used the .config file from the current 3.2 kernel - guess a lot of stuff was optimized / deselected |
| 12:19.12 | ochiottes | GPenguin: it must read: 192.168.2.0/24, not 192.168.2.1 |
| 12:20.04 | ochiottes | GPenguin: add your home network to dev wlan with: "ip r a 192.168.2.0/24 dev wlan0" |
| 12:20.05 | GPenguin | where do they come from? |
| 12:20.21 | GPenguin | in 10 years i had not 1 time to mess with routes |
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| 12:21.29 | GPenguin | no change. sorry |
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| 12:21.47 | ochiottes | GPenguin: show me ip r s now |
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| 12:22.05 | GPenguin | 2 lines. exactly how you wanted them |
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| 12:22.15 | ochiottes | GPenguin: paste both lines here |
| 12:22.23 | GPenguin | i have to replug again, make the paste, etc. |
| 12:22.47 | ochiottes | then type it |
| 12:23.11 | GPenguin | this does not help my nerves |
| 12:23.16 | ochiottes | :) |
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| 12:24.18 | GPenguin | 1: default via 192.168.2.1 dev wlan0 proto static metric 1024 | 2: 192.168.2.0/24 dev wlan0 scope link |
| 12:25.27 | ochiottes | GPenguin: and your device wlan0 still has ip address within your 192.168.2.0/24 network? |
| 12:25.53 | GPenguin | nope. i switched to DHCP as told by the other guy |
| 12:26.19 | ochiottes | GPenguin: which ip has wlan0 now? "ip a s" |
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| 12:26.48 | GPenguin | you want me to type that full IPv6 address? |
| 12:27.09 | ochiottes | GPenguin: I thought you want an ipv4 network and ip? |
| 12:27.20 | GPenguin | yeah |
| 12:27.32 | ochiottes | GPenguin: wlan0 must have an ipv4 address then |
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| 12:28.12 | GPenguin | i have no idea where these settings come from. the false routes, the IPv6, etc. |
| 12:28.55 | ochiottes | GPenguin: give wlan0 an ip address with "ip a a 192.168.2.X/24 dev wlan0" |
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| 12:29.21 | ochiottes | GPenguin: for X think of a number that's available |
| 12:31.21 | GPenguin | this is hopeless. lets forget about that wifi crap |
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| 12:32.07 | ochiottes | GPenguin: it's only three steps, assign ip address to device, add route to home network, add default route |
| 12:32.57 | GPenguin | thanks a lot for your efforts ochiottes |
| 12:33.46 | ochiottes | GPenguin: you know that you're almost there |
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| 12:35.22 | TJ- | GPenguin: Do you have Network Manager enabled? Those settings likely come from it. Check syslog |
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| 12:45.24 | rgr | need xvdicap for Jessie. Anyone have it working? |
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| 12:46.51 | at0m|c | ,v xvdicap |
| 12:46.52 | judd | No package named 'xvdicap' was found in amd64. |
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| 12:50.49 | rgr | I know. Hence Im asking. |
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| 12:51.26 | rgr | the source download wont build properly, someone decided ti didnt fit in multimedia repos anymore. its the only screen recorder that works properly imo. |
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| 12:55.37 | Behruz | I was on apt-get dist-upgrade last night but i shut it down and quit so it went to 70% and /var/cache/apt/ is containted of those packages.if i begin apt |
| 12:56.49 | Behruz | apt-get dist-upgrage it will keep the last state and begin from that point? |
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| 12:58.49 | p0g0_ | Behruz: yes. You might update again first tho, in case the repo has changed. |
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| 13:00.30 | Behruz | pOgO_:thanks,i must do a netselect again i guess |
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| 13:24.51 | SrRaven | Hi, I got a problem with my raspi and raspbian on it, Im on it now via ssh (screen and irssi) but I cant seem to establish another connection, any ideas? |
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| 13:27.05 | SirLagz | SrRaven: #raspbian is probably a better place to ask |
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| 13:30.57 | quarterback | I keep getting errors with exim4 MTA while sendmail , send-mail gives an error that account doesnt exist and there is another error . Can anybody take a look? |
| 13:32.01 | quarterback | Does sendmail-bin have to be setup to send email? |
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| 13:37.43 | Jippi | at0m|c: maybe https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=760704 is why your build took hours - noticed mine ran with -j1 where it should be -j9 |
| 13:37.44 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/760704 in kernel-package (open): «make-kpkg does not appear to use -j value»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-09-07; last modified: 2014-09-07. |
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| 13:40.45 | jelly | quarterback: there's no need for sendmail-bin to be installed at all, exim provides its own /usr/sbin/sendmail binary |
| 13:41.12 | quarterback | jelly: I get two errors while sending a test email. |
| 13:41.19 | quarterback | Can I post them here? |
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| 13:42.01 | quarterback | jelly: send-mail: account default not found: no configuration file available |
| 13:42.17 | quarterback | jelly: Can't send mail: sendmail process failed with error code 78 |
| 13:42.51 | quarterback | Could you please tell what is causing these two error logs? |
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| 13:44.50 | jelly | !ask |
| 13:44.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:46.30 | jelly | quarterback: first thing to do with any MTA issue is look at the actual logs, not just output of command. exim keeps them under /var/log/exim4/ |
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| 13:48.54 | quarterback | jelly: some logs are not written. |
| 13:49.30 | quarterback | jelly: I thought that there would be some entry in /var/log/exim4/mainlog but there isn't when I issued a command for a test email. |
| 13:50.15 | jelly | quarterback: which command exactly are you using to send mail? what does dpkg -S /usr/sbin/sendmail say? Which debian release is this? |
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| 13:51.25 | quarterback | jelly: Debian 7x86_64 |
| 13:51.29 | Jippi | at0m|c: with the change he proposed in that bug report, the full build took ~17m |
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| 13:51.52 | quarterback | jelly: exim4-daemon-light: /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 13:52.47 | quarterback | jelly: I also have to send email a non root user ircd , with an email address like postmaster@domain.tld. |
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| 13:54.12 | quarterback | jelly: This email address doesn't exist on my domain, which is another problem, I wonder how an email address is resolved. |
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| 13:56.51 | quarterback | jelly: i wanted to setup a send only smtp server with exim4 and use that to send emails from another program which uses the format /usr/sbin/sendmail -t |
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| 14:24.34 | hit_ | Hi, seems I cannot "apt-get remove vlc" It will also remove a lot of other unrelated packets such as dolphin kmail konsole, everything related to kde |
| 14:24.39 | hit_ | how can I just remove vlc?? |
| 14:25.14 | SirLagz | hit_: can you post up the message when you do an apt-get remove vlc? |
| 14:25.20 | hit_ | sure |
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| 14:26.19 | hit_ | http://pastebin.com/dCxFUAnV |
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| 14:27.18 | hit_ | I have installed two desktops kde and lxde and I want to keep both |
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| 14:29.13 | SirLagz | hit_: vlc probably installed some package that other packages are dependent on... |
| 14:29.28 | SirLagz | hit_: you could forcibly remove vlc using dpkg rather than using apt |
| 14:29.33 | SirLagz | hit_: why not just keep vlc though? |
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| 14:29.49 | hit_ | ok Ill try |
| 14:30.00 | hit_ | I like much better smplayer and I see no reason to have both |
| 14:30.27 | zykotick9 | hit_: using "apt-cache rdepends vlc" or "aptitiude why vlc" might clearly show what relies on vlc... good luck. |
| 14:31.02 | zykotick9 | notes, breaking metapackages can be a pain. might be easier just to leave vlc... |
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| 14:32.02 | hit_ | I only see phonon and phonon-backend there, no luck |
| 14:32.49 | SirLagz | hit_: personally I'd just leave it |
| 14:33.28 | zykotick9 | hit_: i'm not sure what phonon is, but you could do the same apt-cache/aptitude search with phonon and see what it is a depenedency of... |
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| 14:35.39 | hit_ | well I think I will just leave it, it seems like a lot of headache for this. The problem is that default aplications is not working, I have set on LXsession default applications SMplayer for videos but it keeps opening them with vlc |
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| 14:36.17 | hit_ | is there any text file I can edit for easier configuration? |
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| 14:47.45 | DebianGNU | hi |
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| 15:03.28 | AciD` | hi |
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| 15:03.49 | DebianGNU | AciD`: Hi |
| 15:03.59 | DebianGNU | calher: hey |
| 15:04.12 | AciD` | I have local server under Debian 8. I can ssh to it from all my other computers on the local network, except one |
| 15:04.43 | AciD` | when I do ping myserv from that laptop, I get no answer, while if I do that from another I get one |
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| 15:04.57 | calher | DebianGNU: How do I get Flash? |
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| 15:05.26 | DebianGNU | calher: Gnash is a type of flash. Perhaps you mean that? |
| 15:05.49 | AciD` | it seems my debian server does not want to answer to any ping/ssh query from that laptop (while from that laptop I can ping and ssh other local computers) |
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| 15:06.20 | calher | DebianGNU: No. Gnash sucks. I want the real Flash from Adobe. |
| 15:06.39 | DebianGNU | I'm sorry. I don't support use of non-free software. |
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| 15:07.36 | calher | Can somebody help me install Adobe Flash? |
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| 15:08.22 | r6ku | calher: https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer |
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| 15:09.37 | calher | r6ku: Debian shouldn't be telling me how to install non-free software. Debian claims to be a freedom-respecting distro. |
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| 15:11.42 | r6ku | calher: flash is non-free software |
| 15:11.52 | zykotick9 | calher: unfortunately (in my opinion), while debian _can_ be used in freedom, i don't think Debian makes any claims to be a "freedom-respecting distro"... contrib and non-free make this impossible. |
| 15:12.33 | DebianGNU | I use Debian in freedom. I wouldn't add non-free or contrib repos in a million years. At least Debian makes this possible. |
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| 15:12.46 | zykotick9 | DebianGNU: i'm with ya ;) |
| 15:13.09 | calher | Now, if they'd just make a separate repo for non-free CULTURAL works. |
| 15:13.16 | calher | They break my Emacs... |
| 15:13.39 | DebianGNU | calher: You could enable the repo, get the documentation, and disable it. |
| 15:13.55 | DebianGNU | No risk of any proprietary software touching your system. |
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| 15:14.16 | DebianGNU | or you could compile your own copy of Emacs with documentation included. |
| 15:14.17 | calher | DebianGNU: Meh. Compiling from source is easier. |
| 15:15.09 | DebianGNU | That might be an idea to bring up at a Debian conference. A separate repo for non-free cultural works. |
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| 15:16.12 | hexnewbie | contrib is somewhat bipolar - Adobe Flash is in there, despite being totally non-free, while VirtualBox (which is free and can be used to run free software) is also in there. Those two shouldn't belong in the same section, IMO. |
| 15:16.19 | DebianGNU | hi Siva_Machina |
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| 15:17.06 | zykotick9 | hexnewbie: you're missing the point of contrib a bit. the software that installs Flash from contrib _IS_ free software, that is used to install proprietary flash... |
| 15:17.20 | DebianGNU | Yes. The installer is free software. |
| 15:17.26 | DebianGNU | That's why it's contrib |
| 15:17.55 | hexnewbie | zykotick9: Yes, I am aware of the technicality of it, but when you do install it. But in practice, installing the package is installing non-free software |
| 15:18.08 | zykotick9 | hexnewbie: agreed |
| 15:18.13 | DebianGNU | hexnewbie: Which is why it isn't in Debian main. |
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| 15:18.19 | DebianGNU | At least we can avoid it. |
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| 15:19.19 | DebianGNU | Flash is outmoded technology. I don't see the point for it anymore. |
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| 15:19.32 | Siva_Machina | hello |
| 15:19.34 | hexnewbie | Yes, but software like ResidualVM that depends on non-free cultural works is also there... |
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| 15:20.35 | calher | hexnewbie: VirtualBox is no longer in the Free Software Directory. |
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| 15:21.50 | calher | If you use Flash on your website, you are a mean person and do not deserve to have your site viewed by me. |
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| 15:23.05 | calher | All my favorite porn sites are supported by youtube-dl, so I don't need Flash anymore. |
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| 15:24.13 | hexnewbie | I don't think my favourite porn site (NASA TV) is, though |
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| 15:25.25 | DebianGNU | If I can't find a workaround without proprietary JS and flash, I make myself suffer in the meantime. |
| 15:25.42 | calher | hexnewbie: NASA must hate objectum sexuals. |
| 15:25.45 | DebianGNU | I always manage to watch the new Naruto Shippuden episode with zero flash. |
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| 15:27.22 | fightthewalrus | Yes indeed, youtube-dl can even be used to download mp3 |
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| 15:27.38 | hexnewbie | xmbc used to be able to play NASA TV without flash, I think, but that's... somewhat weird way to do it |
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| 15:28.03 | DebianGNU | I choose the weird way over a way that involves spyware. |
| 15:28.08 | DebianGNU | Flash is malicious. |
| 15:29.13 | calher | Maliceux ! |
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| 15:29.35 | calher | C'est malicieux ! |
| 15:29.42 | DebianGNU | I try to stream stuff through vlc, mpv, or mplayer |
| 15:29.50 | DebianGNU | if that doesn't work, I try youtube-dl |
| 15:30.01 | DebianGNU | If that doesn't work, I look elsewhere. |
| 15:30.53 | calher | I might begin to transcode to WebM before watching. |
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| 15:38.00 | Siva_Machina | I actualy made a m3u8 file for a couple of NAsa TV channels |
| 15:38.08 | Siva_Machina | so I could pipe it through VLC |
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| 15:40.00 | DebianGNU | vlc is a beast |
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| 15:42.57 | hexnewbie | Siva_Machina: I used to have some but NASA changed switched from their MPEG streams to Ustream. Now there's manual for that too, but I haven't followed it. Yet. |
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| 15:43.27 | jodiendo | Has nayonehas being succesful installing debian 7 on a Lenovo laprop g480 |
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| 15:44.40 | jodiendo | has anyone been succesful installing DEBIAN 7 ON A LENOVO G480 |
| 15:44.48 | Siva_Machina | nevermined my nasa m3u8 files are now broken |
| 15:45.10 | DebianGNU | https://h-node.org/notebooks/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef?search_string=Lenovo&submit=Search |
| 15:45.18 | hexnewbie | Siva_Machina: Yup, I guess same thing. They removed their own streams for some reason. |
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| 15:45.51 | hellyeah | debian dont have aptana why? |
| 15:46.13 | jodiendo | IM CHECKING THE LINK . Thank You |
| 15:47.41 | jodiendo | OK my model is not listed |
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| 15:48.28 | cmhobbs | my machine feels like it's running pretty hot. how can i monitor its temperature? i'm on jessie |
| 15:49.25 | DebianGNU | jodiendo: Use the graphical install Debian provides and try connecting to WiFi. |
| 15:49.53 | jodiendo | ok I understand |
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| 15:50.49 | jodiendo | Allowed me to explain, briefly my headache |
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| 15:54.13 | jodiendo | I try to install Devian via network, but the WIFI was not activated, neither the lan nickcard. Debian only installed the basics but without network. Once that was done, The f9 key for the shortcuts to activate the WIFI was not operational. All I did follow the menu via the DVD, It brought me to stan still |
| 15:54.15 | somiaj | cmhobbs: there are various tools. lm-sensors is the core tool to check temps but conky and other tools provide graphical display of it |
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| 15:54.48 | somiaj | jodiendo: what card do you have. Most wifi cards and some wired cards require additional non-free firwmare to run. |
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| 15:55.19 | somiaj | jodiendo: debian provides this firmware in either the non-free repo or has a firmware installer with it on. If you have debian installed you most likely just need to copy the firware to the machine. What card do you have. |
| 15:55.36 | jodiendo | Good question, Wait please |
| 15:55.46 | jodiendo | Im in other PC |
| 15:55.55 | jodiendo | researching |
| 15:56.13 | somiaj | jodiendo: if you can run 'lspci' from the machine with the minimal install on it, we could figure it ou |
| 15:56.30 | jodiendo | ok wait please |
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| 15:59.02 | jodiendo | im trying to access the bios.it dies not tells me no information on the WIFI |
| 15:59.31 | somiaj | the bios wont' give you chip info. Can you boot into that minimial install you put on already? |
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| 15:59.53 | jodiendo | yes |
| 16:00.18 | somiaj | please do, after you are booted, log in and run 'lspci' and look for the wifi card, give me the model number and chipset listed |
| 16:00.36 | jodiendo | doing it wait once i will stand bye |
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| 16:02.41 | jodiendo | the boot brought me root@debian: |
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| 16:03.22 | somiaj | correct, now run the command lspci and look at the output |
| 16:03.39 | jodiendo | ok wait once |
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| 16:10.37 | jodiendo | Im very sorry, it brings me the root@debian asking for my login and password.. I screw up royaly cant remenber it |
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| 16:12.29 | buu | Ok seriously, how do I disable dpms forever? I've tried xset -dpms and xset dpms 0 0 0 |
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| 16:14.28 | jodiendo | Im going to reloaded debian toomorrow |
| 16:14.56 | jodiendo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:14.58 | AciD` | I have local server under Debian 8. I can ssh to it from all my other computers on the local network, except one. When I do `ping myserv` from that laptop or try to ssh, I get no answer, while if I do that from another I get one. It seems my debian server does not want to answer to any ping/ssh query from that laptop (while from that laptop I can ping and ssh other local computers). Why? |
| 16:15.36 | armin | hi. i'm actually using this: http://ur1.ca/my6d4 - is there anything wrong with doing this? |
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| 16:17.18 | somiaj | !tell jodiendo about firmware installer |
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| 16:17.57 | jodiendo | Somiaj What firmware installer |
| 16:17.57 | somiaj | jodiendo: the bot sent you a message about the firmware installer. If it is indeed your card is missing correct firmware, that should help out during the isntall. |
| 16:18.50 | somiaj | AciD`: well sounds like the debian server is responding. The only thing is network. try a traceroute see if you can reach the server. It could be some network issue or you have a firewall keeping you from connencting. |
| 16:18.52 | jodiendo | firmware insta;;er? Sorry dont understand sir |
| 16:19.01 | somiaj | AciD`: the only other possiblity I can think of is if you run fail2ban or denyhost |
| 16:19.15 | dvs | jodiendo: Look at the message dpkg sent you. |
| 16:19.33 | AciD` | somiaj -> trying the traceroute now |
| 16:20.22 | somiaj | armin: you are overwriting commands which could cause issue if you don't rember you ddi that in the future. Using aptitude for apt-get may not be the best thing since some things apt-get is prefered (though this is really only important during dist-upgrades |
| 16:20.58 | somiaj | armin: also I like to look at what aptitude or apt-get will do before confirming. Again this is habbit from running testing/unstable. in stable there is no major issue I can forsee but it could have conesquences in the future. |
| 16:21.21 | jodiendo | Got it Thank You |
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| 16:21.37 | jodiendo | Reading |
| 16:22.33 | jodiendo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.46 | somiaj | armin: I do notice that these are .zshrc so zsh aliases, but yet you are telling your scripts to be run in bash. Not sure if this is inteded or not. |
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| 16:23.17 | somiaj | jodiendo: no, the drivers are free and included in the kernel. What you need is non-free firmware. |
| 16:23.38 | jodiendo | I Understand |
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| 16:23.57 | somiaj | the major difference between a wifi card that doesn't require non-free firmware and one that does is the firmware is supplied on the hardware, not as a file the driver needs. |
| 16:24.08 | dvs | !tell jodiendo about firmware images |
| 16:24.14 | jodiendo | ok cool |
| 16:25.10 | AciD` | somiaj -> weird, when I traceroute an ip inside my local network, it first hits the router ip, then out in the wild, to finish to touch the 192.168.0.1 ip on the 13th hop |
| 16:25.11 | AciD` | :\ |
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| 16:25.26 | somiaj | AciD`: so traceroute actually reaches the server in question? |
| 16:25.44 | AciD` | somiaj -> yes |
| 16:25.58 | somiaj | AciD`: do you have denyhost or fail2ban installed on the server that could have autoblocked the ip of the machine you are on (those programs can be finky and ban a machine you use) |
| 16:25.58 | AciD` | but no ping |
| 16:26.12 | AciD` | cheking |
| 16:26.31 | somiaj | AciD`: do you have a firewall on the server? That could be it too. denyhost I didn't think blocked pings |
| 16:26.57 | AciD` | no denyhost nor fail2ban installed on the server somiaj |
| 16:27.35 | AciD` | no firewall too |
| 16:27.48 | AciD` | i'm confused |
| 16:27.53 | Amarande | jodiendo: step 0: if on a desktop, rip out the crappy wifi card with poor open source support, whilst ordering a foss-friendly wifi card to replace it |
| 16:28.06 | Amarande | step 1: install foss-friendly wifi card while taking a rock violently to the old one as catharsis |
| 16:28.12 | Amarande | step 2: watch debian install without tears :) |
| 16:28.28 | dvs | of pain |
| 16:28.28 | hexnewbie | step 1: Welcome to modern laptop wifi card whitelists that reject non-approved wifi cards |
| 16:28.34 | somiaj | Amarande: So you like your firmware hidden on the hardware? It isn't like you avoid having non-free firmware. (: |
| 16:28.50 | Amarande | somiaj: back in the day, that's how it always was |
| 16:28.56 | jodiendo | Do I have to reinstall debian again, If I cant use the login-paaword under the root command that I forgot? |
| 16:29.05 | Amarande | it's not like the firmware is any more open source now, it's just more of a pita to use it under debian :) |
| 16:29.15 | Amarande | or even on windows, for that matter |
| 16:29.20 | somiaj | but eitehr way this is off-topic, you have two choices, 1) get a card that doesn't require non-free firmware, or 2) get the non-free firmware for your card. The choice and freedom is yours. |
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| 16:30.31 | jodiendo | Im not an expert, I just want my machine to not spy on me, respecting my rights and privacy |
| 16:30.58 | Amarande | jodiendo: then you probably don't want a wifi card at all, since the only way to really have privacy is to not use the internet in the first place, alas |
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| 16:31.13 | hayzy | somiaj, is there a list of cards about? |
| 16:31.34 | Amarande | hayzy: for desktops I lately recommend the Rosewill RNX-N150PCe PCI-E X1 card |
| 16:31.40 | somiaj | hayzy: I don't know of one, I'm sure some of the no non-free firmware advocates has a list of what cards include the firmware on the chip. |
| 16:31.41 | hayzy | specifically laptops :p |
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| 16:31.52 | Amarande | from newegg, only costs about 15USD, uses atheros 9485 which is about as friendly to linux as you'll ever find |
| 16:31.57 | somiaj | laptops it is a lot harder, because in end it is harder to change the card. |
| 16:32.14 | hayzy | pretty easy in my exp |
| 16:32.22 | Amarande | and yeh, laptops are a whole other kettle of fish |
| 16:32.27 | hayzy | maybe not when compared with computers |
| 16:32.30 | AciD` | somiaj -> using iptables -F did not solve the pb too :\ |
| 16:32.42 | hayzy | there are no atheros 9485 in my country's ebay :( |
| 16:32.42 | Amarande | the biggest problem is that basically no etailer ever actually mentions the actual CHIP in a wifi product in the specs |
| 16:32.51 | Amarande | hayzy: that's because "atheros 9485" is not a card |
| 16:32.59 | Amarande | you need to find a card that *uses* a given chip, and that's a pain :( |
| 16:33.21 | jodiendo | Not all laptops will aloow you to replace the WIFI cards, manufacturing them solder into the MOBO is about money |
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| 16:33.45 | hayzy | ah |
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| 16:34.25 | somiaj | Lets try to keep to support. I leave it as personal choice if you want to use non-free firmware or not. I personally see very little difference between the firmware as a file vs flahsed onto the chip. (: |
| 16:34.26 | cemg | hello guys , i installed drop down terminal extension of gnome. but i cant create multiple tabs. CTRL+SHIFT+T doesnt work, do you guys use it ? |
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| 16:34.53 | jodiendo | but buying a Free adapter to replace that card via USB is another economical option |
| 16:35.08 | dvs | somiaj: as long as you can get your hands on the firmware file.... but that's another story. ;-) |
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| 16:35.47 | azy | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported |
| 16:35.57 | jodiendo | Lenovo is sold their soul to Microshit |
| 16:35.58 | zvz | Anyone ever have an issue with telling their laptop to hibernate, only to find it starting up from a poweroff when you go to wake it up? |
| 16:36.03 | azy | im not sure which would be a laptop chip |
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| 16:36.20 | azy | pcmcia, pci, pci low profile, minipci |
| 16:36.48 | somiaj | azy: that would be a bad list to use, since ubuntu doesn't disgnish between cards that require non-free firmware and those that don't, which is what the discussion was about. |
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| 16:37.02 | azy | ah |
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| 16:38.29 | azy | http://shop.gluglug.org.uk/product/libreboot-x200/ |
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| 16:38.35 | azy | Upgraded with an 802.11n wireless card (Atheros AR5B95, AR9285 chipset), ensuring full compatibility with free drivers in Trisquel GNU/Linux-libre. |
| 16:38.39 | jak2000 | hi friends |
| 16:38.43 | jak2000 | good morning |
| 16:38.43 | calher | azy: Libreboot FTW. |
| 16:39.03 | azy | yeah i'd like to get libre/coreboot on my x200 |
| 16:39.08 | jak2000 | anyone recommend me a good, sources.list? |
| 16:39.16 | somiaj | jak2000: what version of debian? |
| 16:39.21 | dvs | !tell jak2000 about jessie sources.list |
| 16:39.22 | azy | it would be something new to me though... i see chips and a bunch of wires and get scared |
| 16:39.23 | DebianGNU | calher: I put Linux-libre on Debian. Haha. |
| 16:39.32 | DebianGNU | :-) |
| 16:39.48 | jodiendo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.02 | DebianGNU | azy: Go Libreboot! |
| 16:40.09 | azy | scary tho |
| 16:40.13 | somiaj | jodiendo: there are ways to recover a system with out knowing the passwords if you have physical access to the machine. |
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| 16:40.18 | azy | i seem to need a beagleboard too? |
| 16:40.23 | jodiendo | I do |
| 16:40.33 | jodiendo | Is in front of me |
| 16:40.57 | jodiendo | promp into root@debian |
| 16:40.59 | azy | http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290857297319 this would be free, right? |
| 16:41.17 | azy | ATHEROS AR9285 AR5B95 - same as that free x200 laptop |
| 16:41.32 | azy | super cheap too |
| 16:42.00 | DebianGNU | azy: https://h-node.org/wifi/catalogue/en/1/1/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef/undef?search_string=AR9285&submit=Search |
| 16:42.05 | DebianGNU | It appears to be free. |
| 16:42.08 | DebianGNU | :-) |
| 16:42.15 | azy | woot |
| 16:42.43 | azy | gonna buy one for each of my laptops |
| 16:43.05 | DebianGNU | Awesome. |
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| 16:43.18 | DebianGNU | I'm always glad to see someone supportive of free software. |
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| 16:43.52 | azy | half that, half ocd |
| 16:43.57 | jodiendo | somiaj, help me with my headache |
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| 16:44.12 | jak2000 | dvs and for whizzy? |
| 16:44.43 | dvs | !tell jak2000 about wheezy sources.list |
| 16:45.01 | dvs | very similar |
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| 16:46.16 | DebianGNU | azy: You're using Debian Main? |
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| 16:47.11 | jodiendo | This link will help you but WIFI cards that are free, https://www.thinkpenguin.com/ |
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| 16:47.50 | Amarande | mind you, debian on laptops may become a distant memory in the next several years anyhow ... even for desktops there is the potential that we have to buy server motherboards to continue to run it on new builds |
| 16:47.54 | jak2000 | Dvs Thanks!!!! you are my heroe |
| 16:47.55 | Amarande | but at the moment, that's pure speculation |
| 16:48.14 | dvs | no prob |
| 16:48.32 | DebianGNU | Amarande: My Libreboot X200 is built like a tank. I expect it to do just fine for a few years. |
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| 16:48.59 | Amarande | DebianGNU: yeah existing machines will be fine, it's new ones we'll have to worry about, due to Microsoft no longer requiring OEMs to allow secure boot to be switched off |
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| 16:50.04 | Amarande | at which point, if OEMs do lock it down and you want linux at all, you're stuck with Ubuntu or a Red Hat based distro (*blargh* ... not that I'm a distro wars type, but every time I use an RPM based distro one of the first things that rapidly gets to me is how rpm/yum are miles behind the debian package managers :() |
| 16:50.17 | jak2000 | how to open 22 port on debian? |
| 16:50.38 | Amarande | jak2000: is sshd running? |
| 16:50.45 | jak2000 | yes |
| 16:50.52 | jak2000 | apt-get install openssh-server |
| 16:51.07 | Amarande | jak2000: your debian box is fine, you need to configure your router to forward a port to port 22 on the debian box |
| 16:51.17 | DebianGNU | Let's hope the restricted boot issue can be resolved. |
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| 16:52.02 | DebianGNU | Debian GNU/Linux and the distros on the libre list going away would make me very sad. |
| 16:52.29 | Amarande | Doubt they'd go away, but at the worst you'd have to build custom to be able to run it |
| 16:52.45 | DebianGNU | I think more liberated hardware will exist in the future. |
| 16:53.08 | Amarande | which basically means no laptops, and (depending what consumer tier mobo makers do, although locking whitebox mobos down seems unlikely) potentially having to buy expensive C-series server boards in order to run debian |
| 16:53.36 | DebianGNU | Laptops are my preferred method of computing. |
| 16:53.39 | Amarande | (mind you the latter is likely to get increasingly popular anyway, because of ZFS becoming such a popular use case, and the fact that ECC is considered more or less an absolute necessity to run ZFS, so you need the C-series board anyway) |
| 16:54.01 | calher | A GNU handset would be nice. |
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| 16:54.24 | jak2000 | how to check if openssh is running? and port 22 is running? |
| 16:54.26 | Amarande | calher: indeed, though I'm not sure how many countries it would be feasible in (mostly due to the baseband bugaboo) |
| 16:54.45 | DebianGNU | A handset could exist without the calling out feature. |
| 16:55.02 | DebianGNU | It could be like the iPod Touch in size. |
| 16:55.03 | Amarande | jak2000: run netstat -t -l |
| 16:55.18 | Amarande | do you get a line that says "tcp 0 0 *:ssh *:* LISTEN"? |
| 16:55.26 | calher | Amarande: I would break the law to call gran-gran. |
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| 16:56.09 | DebianGNU | calher: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU |
| 16:56.10 | calher | Amarande: Yeah, I say handset to show that those devices are computers in their own right and may or may not have cellular service. |
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| 16:56.21 | Amarande | calher: ah, a GNU tablet ... yeah, that would be nice |
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| 16:57.03 | calher | Amarande: Tablet? No. Handset, not tablet. |
| 16:57.06 | Amarande | calher: that's probably more of a deficiency in the software ecosystem ... can you imagine trying to run debian in any of the currently offered GUI environments without a keyboard? |
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| 16:57.16 | calher | But tablets could do the same thing. I just want a handset. |
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| 16:57.22 | Amarande | calher: a handset without cell phone capabilities is essentially a mini tablet, hence why I said tablet |
| 16:57.49 | Amarande | (since there is no way AFAIK we could have a Debian Phone ... pretty sure the baseband level is too heavily regulated) |
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| 16:58.12 | calher | Amarande: "Ecosystem"? https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Ecosystem |
| 16:58.35 | calher | Amarande: Tablets are different form-factors. They are *handsets*. See "Open Handset Alliance". |
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| 16:59.12 | jak2000 | AMANDA: *:ssh LISTEN |
| 16:59.14 | jak2000 | something? |
| 16:59.22 | calher | GNOME and KDE are making improvements to be used on tablets. Handsets may need even more adjustments, though. |
| 16:59.31 | DebianGNU | I think the gripe against "ecosystem" is a bit silly. |
| 16:59.32 | Amarande | jak2000: if you have a line that says *:ssh and has the word LISTEN in it, as you do, then sshd is running |
| 16:59.59 | Amarande | jak2000: as I noted, what you need to do now isn't on your debian machine, it's on your router, you need to set up a port forward to the debian machine so that you can connect to the ssh from outside |
| 17:00.05 | jak2000 | ok and port 22? how to check is open? |
| 17:00.07 | Amarande | how you do this is dependent on your router |
| 17:00.12 | Amarande | jak2000: port 22 is ssh |
| 17:00.22 | jak2000 | ahh then running and open |
| 17:00.33 | jak2000 | other thing a repositorie for install mysql? rcommendm e one |
| 17:00.34 | jak2000 | pls |
| 17:00.53 | calher | DebianGNU: It's also a euphemism for "walled garden". |
| 17:01.34 | Amarande | jak2000: it's probably installed by default, if you used the normal installation procedure for debian |
| 17:01.37 | calher | DebianGNU: I speak pure GNUspeak. |
| 17:01.47 | DebianGNU | calher: I make my own judgement. |
| 17:01.49 | DebianGNU | lol |
| 17:01.55 | Amarande | but you're looking for the "mysql-client" and "mysql-server" packages, which are part of debian and should already be available to install |
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| 17:02.26 | jak2000 | i try: apt-get install mysql-server and not luck |
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| 17:03.08 | Amarande | you're running jessie? |
| 17:03.28 | DebianGNU | mysql-server is the package name |
| 17:03.32 | DebianGNU | I just did an apt search |
| 17:03.44 | Amarande | huh. sounds like your apt sources are configured incorrectly, then |
| 17:04.25 | DebianGNU | mysql-client-5.5 for the other package |
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| 17:04.58 | grml-use2 | jak2000: Consider using a high range non default port for sshd. Since you have open on the net. Too prevent possible security issues. |
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| 17:14.35 | jak2000 | grml-use2 how to open ssh port to 4 local ips: 192.168.1.5 192.168.1.100 192.168.1.150 192.168.1.200 ? with iptables |
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| 17:16.42 | grml-use2 | jak2000: Sorry can not help you with that. I am sure there are others here that can; just be patient. |
| 17:17.02 | bewilled | hello, I accidentally erased the files from /root including .bashrc is there anyway to resotre them? |
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| 17:20.06 | willamette | hello guys could you please help me with debian-installer and grub2? |
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| 17:22.01 | Amarande | bewilled: rm is forever, but generally speaking there isn't really anything much of moment in /root on most machines |
| 17:22.37 | Amarande | (and if there was you were quite probably using root unnecessarily, which is also a bad ideaa) |
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| 17:25.19 | bewilled | Amarande, thanks, by restoring I meant by the default files |
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| 17:26.39 | Amarande | bewilled: there's very little in there |
| 17:27.49 | MikOo | bewilled, perhaps with dpkg-reconfigure bash |
| 17:27.53 | Amarande | just looked in my /root, everything in .bashrc is commented out |
| 17:28.29 | Amarande | and the only difference in .profile to a standard user is that PATH does not have ~/bin added to it, and there is a line "mesg n" |
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| 17:34.00 | willamette | i have installed debian with raid 1 + LVM .. everything works until the installer prompt me to install grub |
| 17:34.43 | willamette | then grub refuses to install in a standard device (dev/sdb) |
| 17:34.53 | TJ- | willamette: did you make the whole disks RAIDed, or partitions within them? |
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| 17:35.32 | willamette | i have raided the whole disks |
| 17:35.52 | TJ- | willamette: GRUB can't install to a /dev/mdX device, only to the raw underlying disks. |
| 17:36.36 | willamette | you are right, indeed grub doesn't even show me the /dev/mdX options |
| 17:36.55 | TJ- | willamette: It is possible to work around the restriction but it very much depends on which meta-data is in use on the software RAID device, because some of the metadata versions put it at the start of the disk where the boot loader needs to go |
| 17:37.00 | willamette | but when i select the raw device (dev/sdb) it returns a fatal error |
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| 17:38.17 | TJ- | willamette: if it's v1.1 or v1.2 (the default) the meta-data will be in the way of GRUB. |
| 17:38.55 | willamette | excuse me Tj but I don't understand that |
| 17:39.02 | TJ- | willamette: v1.0 (or v0.90) puts metadata at the end of the device |
| 17:39.45 | willamette | are you referring to grub versions? |
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| 17:41.25 | TJ- | willamette: When the mdadm tool creates the software RAID-1 mirror it has to write metadata to the underlying devices describing the layout of the RAID data. If that metadata is written to the beginning of the physical devices that is where GRUB wants to install its boot-strap and core.img. Using metadata version 1.0 puts that data at the end of the physical disk, so the data at the beginning of the disks matches the same offsets in the RAID device |
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| 17:42.16 | TJ- | willamette: See "man mdadm" and then search with "/--metadata=" |
| 17:43.02 | willamette | ok i will check, because now i'm typing from another computer since mine is that in the subject |
| 17:43.46 | TJ- | willamette: the default is to use v1.2 so you'd need to manually intervene at the beginning of the formatting process to control that. You're better off re-doing install and partitioning the physical disks identically first, then creating a software RAID using the partitions. That way GRUB can install to /dev/sda and and /dev/sdb safely |
| 17:43.47 | willamette | but why these issues are not explained in the Wikis? |
| 17:44.15 | TJ- | willamette: these are complex issues usually only done by experienced system administrators |
| 17:44.32 | willamette | TJ i have nuked the disks and partitioned (without filesystem) within debian.installer |
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| 17:45.02 | willamette | the disks are identical, and identical is the size of the partition |
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| 17:45.39 | willamette | then i've selected "software raid" and i've highlighted the two partitions |
| 17:46.16 | TJ- | willamette: assuming you have 2 identical disks, and partition each one identically first, you can then use mdadm to create a raid device using the partitions, e.g. "mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=1 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda1 /dev/sda2" |
| 17:46.46 | TJ- | willamette: The installer should then be able to 'see' /dev/md0 and you can do what you want with that, maybe use LVM on it |
| 17:47.11 | willamette | i understand this, but i have used the debian installer to do that |
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| 17:47.30 | willamette | i can't do it from shell, at least i think |
| 17:47.59 | willamette | i'm doing a new install on a old pc (two 40gb pata disks) |
| 17:48.16 | kiwiuser | everyone connect to irc.criten.net and join #elitewarez |
| 17:48.18 | kiwiuser | [ #elitewarez @ irc.criten.net ] |
| 17:48.46 | bazhang | kiwiuser, dont paste that here |
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| 17:49.07 | willamette | it seems that grub cannot find the LVM ID PATH since it tells me that when i try to boot the system |
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| 17:49.30 | willamette | i've tried to insert module LVM in /etc/default/grub |
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| 17:55.50 | TJ- | willamette: if the root file-system is an LV then "grub-install" and "update-grub" should have detected that and included the modules in core.img |
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| 18:01.43 | jelly | bewilled: you can find default dot-files for users in /etc/skel/ |
| 18:02.42 | bewilled | jelly, great thanks |
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| 18:08.27 | knivsta | How do I install java run time? |
| 18:08.54 | jelly | knivsta: aptitude install default-jre |
| 18:09.01 | jelly | !install java |
| 18:09.02 | dpkg | For the Java web browser plugin, install the icedtea-plugin package. For other Java programs, install the default-jre package to get the default or manually select one of openjdk-6-jre or openjdk-7-jre yourself. The old <sun-java6> packages are best avoided as Oracle now forbids Debian providing any security updates to them. See also <java alternatives>. |
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| 18:11.19 | knivsta | jelly, What is icedtea-plugin? |
| 18:12.05 | jelly | knivsta: browser plugin if you need java applets in a browser, like it says |
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| 18:12.35 | knivsta | jelly, ok thanks |
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| 18:13.27 | DebianGNU | hi knivsta |
| 18:13.28 | DebianGNU | :-) |
| 18:14.25 | knivsta | DebianGNU, Who are you? |
| 18:14.29 | knivsta | DebianOS? |
| 18:14.56 | knivsta | What's up? AdorableGNU |
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| 18:15.41 | DebianGNU | I'm Belenos AKA AdorableGNU |
| 18:15.47 | DebianGNU | AKA Debianos |
| 18:15.49 | DebianGNU | lol |
| 18:15.52 | DebianGNU | :) |
| 18:17.18 | SuperTramp83 | hi DebainGNU |
| 18:17.39 | SuperTramp83 | er DebianGNU |
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| 18:18.03 | DebianGNU | hi SuperTramp83 |
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| 18:44.18 | Tom01 | yes, then add the user. |
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| 19:07.02 | doesntmatter | hey. do you know of any good stable application firewall for debian wheezy? |
| 19:07.16 | doesntmatter | i already have iptables but want second protection |
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| 19:25.25 | srg | testmsg123: what? |
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| 19:25.36 | testmsg123 | ?? |
| 19:25.41 | testmsg123 | what what? |
| 19:25.45 | srg | testmsg123: "Second protection" - I don't understand that. If you have a iptables firewall, then what is "second protection?" |
| 19:25.57 | srg | I have a iptables script with all the commands in it to setup my firewall rules |
| 19:25.57 | testmsg123 | oh. i want a second layer of protection |
| 19:26.09 | testmsg123 | iptables is a packet filter |
| 19:26.13 | testmsg123 | i want a application firewall |
| 19:26.14 | srg | like a IDS? |
| 19:26.18 | srg | ah |
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| 19:26.56 | testmsg123 | well there's seems to be a debate about this |
| 19:27.00 | testmsg123 | :) |
| 19:27.07 | srg | hm, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Application_firewall#Linux |
| 19:27.11 | srg | That's all I know about it, really ^ |
| 19:27.13 | srg | heh |
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| 19:27.28 | testmsg123 | damn already got it |
| 19:27.29 | srg | I know AppArmor is in debian (I think my desktop uses it by default?) |
| 19:27.30 | testmsg123 | anthing else? |
| 19:27.39 | testmsg123 | is aparmor ok? or not? |
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| 19:28.04 | srg | I don't know too much about it, I've just seen it mentioned in error messages/logs/configs |
| 19:28.14 | testmsg123 | oh hehehe |
| 19:28.14 | srg | It's a desktop so I don't pay much attention to that aspect of it |
| 19:28.28 | testmsg123 | ok ok |
| 19:28.42 | testmsg123 | do you think i could try it without completely break my system? |
| 19:29.08 | testmsg123 | that's it im gonna try it |
| 19:29.09 | testmsg123 | :) |
| 19:29.43 | srg | check out https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToUse |
| 19:29.45 | kiwiuser` | [ #elitewarez @ irc.criten.net ] [ #elitewarez @ irc.criten.net ] [ #elitewarez @ irc.criten.net ] |
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| 19:30.07 | srg | and https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AppArmor |
| 19:30.13 | testmsg123 | ok got it thanks |
| 19:30.19 | srg | np, good luck |
| 19:30.28 | jelly | testmsg123: not many apps have apparmor profiles in linux at all |
| 19:30.30 | testmsg123 | do you think i would need this? or iptables is ok? |
| 19:30.53 | testmsg123 | dan |
| 19:30.55 | testmsg123 | damn |
| 19:31.22 | testmsg123 | srg, and jelly is your only protection is iptables? |
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| 19:31.57 | calher | DebianGNU: |
| 19:32.04 | jelly | testmsg123: protection from what? |
| 19:32.11 | testmsg123 | hackers |
| 19:32.16 | jelly | heh |
| 19:32.22 | testmsg123 | :) |
| 19:32.40 | DebianGNU | Hacking is playful cleverness. |
| 19:32.44 | testmsg123 | hehe |
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| 19:33.10 | testmsg123 | but do you have another layer of protection or not?? |
| 19:33.28 | testmsg123 | or you just hit iptables and that's it? |
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| 19:34.21 | jelly | testmsg123: it's all about risk managment. Some servers I manage have additional layers you might call application-firewalls (like mod_security). Some have hardened kernels (grsecurity patch). |
| 19:35.00 | jelly | most have brute-force deterrents (fail2ban) |
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| 19:35.32 | debbie_ | My usb ports on my laptop are not functional. I typed lsusb and nothing happens. |
| 19:35.43 | debbie_ | Not sure why they stopped working |
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| 19:36.33 | debbie_ | if I boot to a livecd then they work fine |
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| 19:37.31 | testmsg123 | jelly, those hardened kernel, is a good security just to have kernel hardened without any firewall in it? |
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| 19:38.24 | debbie_ | http://paste.debian.net/263633/ maybe this will help |
| 19:38.49 | jelly | testmsg123: security isn't a single thing. It's methodology and best practices, and it has many technical layers |
| 19:39.33 | testmsg123 | jelly , for the home user what you would suggestion as a fail-safe securityY? |
| 19:39.47 | testmsg123 | firewall plus kernel hardened? |
| 19:39.54 | jelly | there's no such thing :-) |
| 19:39.56 | debbie_ | oops http://paste.debian.net/263635/ |
| 19:40.00 | testmsg123 | hehehe |
| 19:40.02 | testmsg123 | :) |
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| 19:40.20 | testmsg123 | what do you use at hmoe? |
| 19:40.22 | testmsg123 | at home? |
| 19:40.32 | TJ- | debbie_: are those results from the faulty boot or the Live ISO boot? |
| 19:40.41 | debbie_ | faulty boot |
| 19:40.53 | debbie_ | the laptop im typing from now yeah |
| 19:40.59 | testmsg123 | sorry for asking this byut i need my home to be secured :)))) |
| 19:41.28 | debbie_ | tail -f /var/log/messages |
| 19:41.28 | debbie_ | Jun 28 15:30:55 debbie /etc/gdm3/Xsession[1536]: [6258:6258:0628/153055:ERROR:gles2_cmd_decoder.cc(11539)] [GroupMarkerNotSet(crbug.com/242999)!:F8DE33B9]GL ERROR :GL_INVALID_OPERATION : glTexStorage2DEXT: <- error from previous GL command |
| 19:41.28 | TJ- | debbie_: what is "lsub" showing and what are you expecting it to show? |
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| 19:41.51 | debbie_ | I haven't a clue what it should show. I have a wireless mouse plugged in. |
| 19:42.00 | debbie_ | so I guess something related to Logitech? |
| 19:42.20 | jelly | testmsg123: Firefox with NoScript for browsing known good and work sites. Chrome only for youtube and similar crap. VPN to connect to personal services. |
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| 19:42.38 | srg | testmsg123: I just use iptables and run secure/minimal applications. |
| 19:43.39 | testmsg123 | how do i know what are those good and work sites? |
| 19:44.04 | testmsg123 | srg like for instance block services? |
| 19:44.15 | testmsg123 | anyway my iptables just blocks 111 |
| 19:44.27 | srg | testmsg123: hm? On my server, I run a default-deny with iptables and only open up certain ports |
| 19:44.38 | srg | like 80 for my httpd, 25 for postfix, et cetera |
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| 19:44.44 | srg | icmp as well |
| 19:44.50 | srg | on IPv4 and IPv6 |
| 19:44.51 | testmsg123 | well that's good to know because that's what i have too :))) |
| 19:44.57 | srg | ssh is run on a random high port (not 22) |
| 19:45.06 | srg | I have fail2ban configured on sshd, postfix, and dovecot |
| 19:45.09 | testmsg123 | security through obsecurity hey? |
| 19:45.11 | testmsg123 | :)) |
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| 19:45.28 | srg | it's not obsecurity, anyone can portscan me. it just prevents the automated bot attacks that fill up my logs with crap |
| 19:45.36 | testmsg123 | lol |
| 19:45.39 | srg | I require both a pubkey AND a password to login to ssh |
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| 19:45.58 | TJ- | I don't expose ssh publically; only inside a VPN tunnel |
| 19:47.17 | testmsg123 | well its good for me because i dont need half of the services that are on my box |
| 19:47.23 | testmsg123 | only two ports open |
| 19:47.38 | testmsg123 | and they are filtered so what could go wrong? |
| 19:47.43 | testmsg123 | :) |
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| 19:48.08 | testmsg123 | what about ipv6? |
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| 19:54.03 | debbie_ | lsusb just doesnt respond |
| 19:54.09 | debbie_ | =\ |
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| 19:54.58 | CygniX | debbie_: did you try as root or sudo? |
| 19:55.05 | debbie_ | as root |
| 19:55.38 | RaitoBezarius | Where can I find acp, amv core utils for Debian? Is there some binary ? |
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| 19:57.20 | srg | Hi all - I'm running the 'owncloud-client' package on Xfce4 on Debian testing/stretch. When I run it, it starts a setup wizard, but after that is complete it disappears and nothing shows up in my tray. ps shows this: https://paste.debian.net/hidden/0fca7af4/ |
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| 19:58.15 | DebianJessieUser | hi i need help with the game open clonk lastest version |
| 19:59.06 | DebianJessieUser | i got an old version runs fine but the last version tells me couldnt load library libjpg.so.8 |
| 19:59.17 | DebianJessieUser | libjpeg/ |
| 19:59.19 | DebianJessieUser | * |
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| 20:01.40 | DebianJessieUser | and i have libjpeg installed |
| 20:01.48 | DebianJessieUser | lastest version |
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| 20:02.39 | DebianJessieUser | m'kay |
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| 20:06.38 | jelly | DebianJessieUser: can you show the actual command you run and full output? |
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| 20:07.06 | DebianJessieUser | to run the game? |
| 20:07.12 | jelly | yes |
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| 20:07.23 | DebianJessieUser | just dropped the game in the terminal |
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| 20:07.35 | DebianJessieUser | so i install it |
| 20:07.42 | jelly | !ask |
| 20:07.42 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:08.22 | d3lphi | how can I get the file fastcgi.conf from nginx-common package? I tried by "cd /etc/nginx && mv fastcgi.conf fastcgi.conf.bak && apt-get install --reinstall nginx-common" but that didn't put fastcgi.conf into /etc/nginx |
| 20:08.22 | DebianJessieUser | you want a link? |
| 20:09.16 | jelly | no, just show the command and its output, when you start it from a terminal. put all of that into a pastebib |
| 20:09.21 | jelly | !paste |
| 20:09.21 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 20:15.19 | DebianJessieUser | http://paste.debian.net/263827/ |
| 20:15.30 | DebianJessieUser | srry for the time |
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| 20:16.49 | DebianJessieUser | so? |
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| 20:17.12 | DebianJessieUser | jelly did you see it? |
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| 20:17.57 | DebianJessieUser | !ask |
| 20:17.57 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 20:18.00 | DebianJessieUser | lol |
| 20:18.06 | DebianJessieUser | http://paste.debian.net/263827/ |
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| 20:25.56 | jelly | DebianJessieUser: right. What does "ldd /home/midou-king/Downloads/openclonk-6.1/openclonk" say? |
| 20:26.18 | DebianJessieUser | http://paste.debian.net/263827/ |
| 20:27.05 | jelly | that's the same paste as before, not ldd |
| 20:27.27 | DebianJessieUser | then? |
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| 20:27.54 | DebianJessieUser | what you mean idd? |
| 20:28.06 | jelly | DebianJessieUser: show the output of "ldd /home/midou-king/Downloads/openclonk-6.1/openclonk" command, please |
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| 20:28.20 | DebianJessieUser | how |
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| 20:28.34 | jelly | run it and pastebin the output |
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| 20:29.05 | DebianJessieUser | thats it |
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| 20:29.47 | jelly | DebianJessieUser: put "ldd " in front of that command. |
| 20:29.54 | jelly | and run it again |
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| 20:30.54 | jelly | away for a bit |
| 20:31.09 | DebianJessieUser | http://paste.debian.net/263830/ |
| 20:31.22 | DebianJessieUser | ignore the second one |
| 20:31.29 | DebianJessieUser | i mean the last line |
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| 20:35.33 | Equa | DebianJessieUser: run this in your terminal and paste the output. ldd /home/midou-king/Downloads/openclonk-6.1/openclonk |
| 20:36.33 | DebianJessieUser | ioh thx |
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| 20:36.54 | DebianJessieUser | http://paste.debian.net/263831/ |
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| 20:38.03 | Equa | DebianJessieUser: so you're only missing one share object libjpeg.so.8 |
| 20:38.17 | DebianJessieUser | yes and i have it installed |
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| 20:39.40 | Equa | DebianJessieUser: where did you get the file and how did you installed it? |
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| 20:40.37 | DebianJessieUser | i dont have the file but i installed libjpeg with aptitude i think |
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| 20:43.40 | Equa | DebianJessieUser: let's check if you really installed the so. check in /usr/lib/i368-linux-gnu/ |
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| 20:44.29 | Equa | DebianJessieUser: are you on debian jessie i386? |
| 20:44.33 | DebianJessieUser | yes |
| 20:45.04 | DebianJessieUser | i have .so.62 |
| 20:45.08 | DebianJessieUser | not .8 |
| 20:45.44 | DebianJessieUser | srry i need to go now |
| 20:45.51 | Equa | DebianJessieUser: ok. cya |
| 20:45.59 | DebianJessieUser | bye and thx |
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| 21:01.40 | Kayla | hello can someone help me get wireless working on my T440 |
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| 21:02.48 | dvs | ...for a price... muhahaha! ;-) |
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| 21:02.59 | Kayla | ill pay you 20. |
| 21:03.45 | Krakakanok | xD |
| 21:03.51 | srg | Kayla: Did you read https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi ? |
| 21:03.53 | dvs | Kayla: Just kidding. Paste the output of "lspci -nn | grep -i net" (without the quotes) to a pastebin |
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| 21:08.38 | Kayla | paste.debian.net/264019 |
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| 21:09.32 | dvs | ,pciid 8086:08b2 |
| 21:09.33 | judd | [8086:08b2] is 'Wireless 7260' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:08b2 |
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| 21:10.44 | Kayla | so no one can help me? |
| 21:10.55 | dvs | Kayla: https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
| 21:11.27 | WangDang_ | Kayla: did you notice the message from judd about the drivers needed for your card? |
| 21:12.22 | Kayla | says unabale to locae package firmware-i and wlwifi |
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| 21:13.01 | Kayla | i didnt see anything about judd |
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| 21:14.48 | SynrG | dvs: from about ten hours ago to fourteen is ago, we worked with Kayla on this. Got logs from then? |
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| 21:15.05 | SynrG | Hours* ago |
| 21:15.07 | dvs | nope |
| 21:15.38 | Kayla | old logs: paste.debian.net/262365 |
| 21:16.33 | r6ku | Kayla: you couldn't find the package? do you have contrib and non-free enabled in your sources.list? |
| 21:16.49 | Kayla | i should |
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| 21:17.23 | r6ku | do that, update your sources and check again |
| 21:17.58 | Kayla | what is directory in nano |
| 21:18.08 | r6ku | nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:18.33 | r6ku | you need to be root to save changes to the file |
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| 21:19.06 | Kayla | when u open the nano file everyting is bnalnk |
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| 21:19.16 | Kayla | blank |
| 21:19.36 | r6ku | no there's definitely something there, check that you opened the right file |
| 21:19.43 | dvs | Kayla: Hopefully, you spelled /etc/apt/sources.list wrong |
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| 21:20.10 | terr1 | Did anything change recently in stable phpmyadmin package? I'm using php5-fpm and nginx.. suddenly when I enter the http page I just get an empty page? No real errors in nginx log? |
| 21:20.37 | Kayla | im in /ect/apt/sources.list |
| 21:20.40 | Kayla | nothing shows |
| 21:20.49 | dvs | etc, not ect |
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| 21:22.07 | Kayla | instead of ctlr + s do i put ctlr +o? |
| 21:23.29 | r6ku | yes |
| 21:23.37 | Behruz | I'm running tor it on and ok i put 127.0.0.1 port 9050 on socket host in iceweasel but my ip still is the original no change happens. |
| 21:24.07 | Kayla | it saved but didnt save in correct directory i think |
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| 21:24.51 | r6ku | open up the file again to make sure |
| 21:25.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | Behruz, how did you test? |
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| 21:26.34 | Behruz | Eduard_Munteanu:google whoami ip. |
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| 21:27.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | Behruz, is the proxy set for all protocols? |
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| 21:28.28 | Behruz | Eduard_Munteanu:idn what you mean! |
| 21:28.33 | pencilandpaper | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNXj9V3BbuM <--- check out what google is up to. wow. |
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| 21:29.04 | Eduard_Munteanu | Behruz, make sure Iceweasel is set to use a proxy for all protocols (HTTP, HTTPS, ...) |
| 21:29.18 | Kayla | wheres the source for /ect/apt/sources |
| 21:29.30 | r6ku | you only need to edit sources.list |
| 21:29.36 | bijan_ | What is the easy way to send emails from debian 8.1? sendmail? |
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| 21:30.04 | Kayla | i cant find origional sources list |
| 21:30.22 | r6ku | nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:30.28 | r6ku | you can use tab completion in the terminal |
| 21:30.44 | KM0201 | bijan_: what do you mean, easiest way to send emails? |
| 21:31.27 | Behruz | Eduard_Munteanu:So when i tick that box i only have choose over HTTP proxy |
| 21:31.30 | dvs | MTA? |
| 21:31.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | Behruz, right |
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| 21:32.14 | Kayla | do i completely delete the old source list? |
| 21:32.42 | r6ku | you only need to edit it, you don't have to delete it |
| 21:32.43 | bijan_ | KM0201: I mean how can start sending emails? |
| 21:33.05 | bijan_ | I don't want to write a phd thesis on configuring email |
| 21:33.21 | KM0201 | bijan_: what mail service do you use? your ISP, gmail, etc? |
| 21:33.24 | bijan_ | a one line installer and then ready to go |
| 21:33.34 | bijan_ | I want to use my server |
| 21:33.53 | KM0201 | then you'd need to set up your server, then install a client to access your email.. thunderbird is a decent client |
| 21:34.21 | Behruz | Eduard_Munteanu:When i set to 127.0.0.1 and 9050 my browser won't refresh like losing connection |
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| 21:34.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | Behruz, be a bit patient, Tor can be slow. |
| 21:34.53 | bijan_ | KM0201: !? Lets say I have a php script that shall send emails |
| 21:34.59 | bijan_ | no thunderbird or whatsoever |
| 21:35.16 | bijan_ | I want the server to send emails out |
| 21:35.28 | Behruz | Eduard_Munteanu:Ok i will thanks |
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| 21:35.45 | KM0201 | bijan_: you need to learn to properly phrase a question.... if that's the case, configure a mail server w/ your script.... there's really no other way to do that. sendmail is a popular mail server |
| 21:35.47 | bijan_ | for example if a user signs up it shall send the activation link. so no I don't want thunderbird |
| 21:36.07 | Kayla | this is old, paste.debian.net/264020/ -- this is new paste.debian.net/264021/ |
| 21:36.14 | KM0201 | bijan_: you said you wanted to send email.. that's not something you typically need a mail server for... thus why i suggested thunderbird |
| 21:36.17 | Kayla | can you guys check over before i edit the old |
| 21:36.18 | bijan_ | KM0201: I wasn't too precise I know but thank you |
| 21:36.38 | r6ku | Kayla: okay, we're good to go |
| 21:36.41 | bijan_ | KM0201: is sendmail the debian way? |
| 21:36.43 | KM0201 | bijan_: lmao, to precise? no, you were about as vague as you could possibly be |
| 21:37.02 | bijan_ | KM0201: why can't you read my mind?!?!? |
| 21:37.05 | bijan_ | :D |
| 21:37.09 | r6ku | Kayla: no wait you have to spell it "non-free" with the dash, just having a space won't do |
| 21:37.09 | KM0201 | .. |
| 21:37.10 | Kayla | so i just copy and paste the new to old? |
| 21:37.17 | Kayla | oh ok |
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| 21:38.17 | KM0201 | not to change the subject Kayla but did you get your wireless working, or are you still working on it? |
| 21:38.27 | Kayla | still working on it |
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| 21:43.04 | Kayla | should i change the origional file to non read only? |
| 21:43.16 | Kayla | i think that might be why is not saving over |
| 21:43.20 | terr1 | Anyone having any idea why debian stable phpmyadmin injects using nginx <style id="cfs-style">html{display: none;}</style> into my page? |
| 21:43.38 | r6ku | Kayla: you have to be root for saving to work |
| 21:43.49 | r6ku | Kayla: do you have a desktop environment installed? |
| 21:44.02 | Kayla | lxde |
| 21:44.12 | r6ku | do you know the command for your file manager? |
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| 21:44.32 | Kayla | no is all gui |
| 21:44.43 | Kayla | pcmanfm |
| 21:44.45 | KM0201 | r6ku: should be pcmanfm if she's using the default for lxde |
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| 21:44.58 | r6ku | run the command "pcmanfm" as root |
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| 21:45.04 | r6ku | is getting flustered |
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| 21:45.17 | dvs | heh |
| 21:45.18 | KM0201 | r6ku: what is she trying to do? |
| 21:45.32 | dvs | KM0201: add four words to a text file |
| 21:45.38 | KM0201 | lol |
| 21:45.59 | KM0201 | probably would have been easier to do w/ leafpad for a newb |
| 21:46.03 | KM0201 | rather than console. |
| 21:46.25 | r6ku | I don't know how many copied of sources.list he has in there |
| 21:46.44 | KM0201 | well, that's another issue. |
| 21:46.54 | Kayla | ok im in sources.list as a su |
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| 21:47.09 | KM0201 | can you pastebin your sources.list? |
| 21:47.22 | r6ku | okay, now copy paste the new sources.list over the old |
| 21:47.33 | KM0201 | oh i wasn't aware she had a new list. |
| 21:47.35 | Kayla | do i just delete the old sources? |
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| 21:47.44 | r6ku | you replace the old ones with the new ones, yes |
| 21:48.14 | KM0201 | wonders why not just use synaptic to add sources? |
| 21:48.32 | r6ku | ... |
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| 21:48.53 | Kayla | ok says |
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| 21:49.01 | KM0201 | r6ku: just easier for those who are used to pointing and clicking their way through everything |
| 21:49.10 | Kayla | this document may contain formating or content that cannot be saved in current file format text |
| 21:49.15 | Kayla | wants me to use odf or use text |
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| 21:50.00 | KM0201 | now i'm deeply confused |
| 21:50.03 | r6ku | you want to save it in the same format, open the file in leafpad |
| 21:50.15 | hexnewbie | Kayla: Did you open the file with Libreoffice Writer? |
| 21:50.23 | KM0201 | hexnewbie: thats what it sounds like |
| 21:50.25 | Kayla | i think so.... |
| 21:50.34 | Kayla | yes |
| 21:50.37 | r6ku | :) |
| 21:50.40 | hexnewbie | leafpad would be better :) |
| 21:51.12 | WangDang_ | I've got a catch-22 I can't figure out how to get around. I'd like to back up some files from one machine to another. I've got root restricted in nfs with root_squash. I don't allow root logins in ssh. So I can't copy the files over as root. Yet, I need to be root to read some of the files on the source machine. So from a read point of view at the source, I need to be root, but from a write point of view going across the network, |
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| 21:51.48 | valdyn | WangDang_: easy, you can pip through ssh |
| 21:52.02 | WangDang_ | pip? |
| 21:52.04 | valdyn | WangDang_: easy, you can *pipe* through ssh |
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| 21:52.27 | WangDang_ | but root can't ssh |
| 21:52.40 | valdyn | WangDang_: any user can run sudo or su though |
| 21:52.40 | KM0201 | WangDang_: so ssh as a user, then su - |
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| 21:53.08 | valdyn | WangDang_: or start on the other side, thats probably less typing |
| 21:53.29 | WangDang_ | can someone give an example command line with pipe and sudo ? |
| 21:53.40 | WangDang_ | What do you mean start on the other side? |
| 21:54.21 | valdyn | WangDang_: you log in to the source, run su, then run the ssh command to backup everything you need |
| 21:54.40 | valdyn | http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-use-tar-command-through-network-over-ssh-session/ |
| 21:54.47 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: ssh user@othermachine su root -c '"tar -cpz /dir/to/backup"' > backup.tar.gz |
| 21:54.54 | Kayla | i try to move the file to the old sources |
| 21:55.02 | Kayla | wont |
| 21:55.06 | Kayla | wont work |
| 21:55.25 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: Notice both single and double quotes to deal with ssh requiring a shell command as argument, not command args. |
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| 21:55.56 | r6ku | Kayla: run "leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list" as root, replace everything with this https://paste.debian.net/plain/264032 and save |
| 21:55.59 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: sudo is less of a pain: ssh user@othermachine sudo tar -cpz /dir/to/backup > backup.tar.xz |
| 21:56.09 | KM0201 | chuckles |
| 21:56.24 | WangDang_ | hexnewbie: ok, let me digest that a bit |
| 21:56.33 | Kayla | i only know how to run nano as root |
| 21:56.52 | WangDang_ | valdyn: you say run su then run ssh, but I can't ssh as root |
| 21:57.09 | r6ku | you can run leafpad the same way as nano with root |
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| 22:00.11 | valdyn | WangDang_: no ssh then su then ssh |
| 22:00.27 | Kayla | can someone help me do leafpad is root really confusing |
| 22:00.38 | valdyn | WangDang_: or alternatively put everything into a single command as hexnewbie showed you. |
| 22:00.45 | KM0201 | Kayla: listen... take a breath, you're frustrated |
| 22:00.51 | KM0201 | open a terminal and change to root |
| 22:01.07 | Kayla | okie |
| 22:01.31 | KM0201 | now, type this exactly |
| 22:01.36 | KM0201 | leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:01.39 | valdyn | Kayla: you can run leafpad as root almost the same way you run nano as root |
| 22:02.01 | KM0201 | Kayla: that should openb up your sources list, in leafpad, as root.. let me know when it does |
| 22:02.09 | valdyn | Kayla: *except* : use "sux" instead of "su" (install if that command does not exist. |
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| 22:02.13 | WangDang_ | valdyn: yeah, I think I'm going to try hexnewbie 's suggestion, cause I'm confused by yours :-D |
| 22:02.33 | KM0201 | valdyn: she's confused enough, lets not convolute this |
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| 22:02.54 | KM0201 | Kayla: did you get your sources list open in leafpad? |
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| 22:04.44 | Kayla | where do i put my leafpad in the directory? |
| 22:05.01 | KM0201 | Kayla: it doesn't matter, are you root in the terminal? |
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| 22:05.11 | Kayla | yes am root in term |
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| 22:05.21 | KM0201 | ok, type this... leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:05.29 | KM0201 | that's going to open your sources list, in leafpad, as root |
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| 22:05.55 | KM0201 | Kayla: follow so far? |
| 22:05.58 | jamde | how can I install AppArmor on Debian Wheezy (7) |
| 22:06.14 | valdyn | judd: versions apparmor |
| 22:06.15 | judd | Package: apparmor on amd64 -- wheezy: 2.7.103-4; jessie: 2.9.0-3; stretch: 2.9.2-3; sid: 2.9.2-3 |
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| 22:06.28 | valdyn | jamde: try installing the package? |
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| 22:06.35 | jamde | valdyn: https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/HowToUse#Requirements |
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| 22:06.36 | KM0201 | lol |
| 22:06.48 | jamde | i went here but apparently that install method doesn't seem to be working |
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| 22:07.01 | Kayla | it says |
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| 22:07.11 | Kayla | leadpad/ect/apt/sources.list no such file or directory |
| 22:07.18 | dvs | ... |
| 22:07.20 | KM0201 | Kayla: you're missing a space |
| 22:07.26 | KM0201 | after leafpad, you need a space |
| 22:07.32 | WangDang_ | Kayla, etc not ect |
| 22:07.36 | KM0201 | leafpad /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:07.41 | DebianGNU | ... |
| 22:07.46 | KM0201 | well, that to.. |
| 22:07.52 | jamde | valdyn: I get this error ---> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 22:07.52 | jamde | is only available from another source |
| 22:07.53 | jamde | E: Package 'apparmor' has no installation candidate |
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| 22:09.02 | valdyn | jamde: so youre not running wheezy or your sources.list is broken |
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| 22:09.44 | jamde | valdyn: but nowhere here https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=apparmor&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=all |
| 22:09.50 | jamde | do i see apparmor for wheezy |
| 22:10.13 | somiaj | jamde: please past the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
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| 22:10.39 | valdyn | jamde: wheezy is not the current stable, so you can hardly find apparmor for wheezy when you are only searching through jessie packages |
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| 22:11.16 | KM0201 | Kayla: did you get it? |
| 22:11.34 | valdyn | jamde: but that site has links for various releases, including wheezy, feel free to click on it |
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| 22:12.04 | jamde | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/264045/ |
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| 22:13.46 | Kayla | no... |
| 22:14.04 | KM0201 | Kayla: what's wrong now? |
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| 22:14.21 | Kayla | i cant move the edited file the the sources.list |
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| 22:14.35 | KM0201 | you shouldn't need to |
| 22:14.48 | KM0201 | just delete everything that is there, and replace it with what was in the pastebin, then safe |
| 22:15.18 | KM0201 | Kayla: would you have a problem getting help remotely? |
| 22:15.27 | Kayla | yes |
| 22:15.34 | Kayla | but i wanna watch so i know how to do it |
| 22:15.44 | WangDang_ | hexnewbie: you suggested "ssh user@othermachine sudo tar -cpz /dir/to/backup > backup.tar.xz", but I'm hoping to copy the files over to another machine rather than dump them into tar.gz. so I'm confused again |
| 22:15.46 | KM0201 | i'm not doing it for you, i'm gonna watch you do it |
| 22:15.53 | Kayla | ok |
| 22:15.59 | KM0201 | hold on a sec |
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| 22:16.22 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: ssh user@othermachine sudo tar -cpz /dir/to/backup | tar -xpz -C /dir/to/extract |
| 22:16.34 | somiaj | WangDang_: do you have both finle systems mounted on the same system? Or you wanting to do a remote copy, if so rsync works wwell. |
| 22:17.15 | somiaj | why not just use rsync -av user@othermachine:/path/to/sourcedir /local/path/to/destdir |
| 22:17.27 | mo1991_ | wwhere is the /boot/grub/menu.lst in debian jessie? Not sure if this is different because of systemd or what but I do not have this file in /boot/grub since I installed jessie and I need to edit grub menu. |
| 22:17.30 | WangDang_ | hexnewbie: that still stays on the same machine. I'm copying between machines |
| 22:17.33 | somiaj | hmm always forget if I need the trailing slash or not. |
| 22:17.33 | KM0201 | Kayla: answer your PM |
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| 22:17.38 | jamde | how would i install a debian.tar.gz? |
| 22:17.53 | somiaj | jamde: be more clear about what this debian.tar.gz is and where you got it. |
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| 22:17.57 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: The command I have copies between machines :) |
| 22:18.03 | somiaj | mo1991_: it isn't due to systemd it is due to grub2 |
| 22:18.10 | jamde | somiaj: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/apparmor |
| 22:18.13 | somiaj | mo1991_: though you really shouldn't edit the .menu by hand, what are you trying to achive. |
| 22:18.16 | jamde | somiaj: I got it from there |
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| 22:18.34 | WangDang_ | somaij: that rsync command uses ssh, and root can't ssh |
| 22:18.37 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: The second tar is executed locally, and the remote tar is piped to it |
| 22:18.38 | jamde | somiaj: [apparmor_2.7.103-4.debian.tar.gz] |
| 22:18.39 | somiaj | jamde: that could be problem matic, if you coudln't install it with apt-get. Please share the output of 'apt-cache policy' at paste.debian.net |
| 22:18.57 | Kayla | is it ok if we use teamviewer? |
| 22:19.04 | somiaj | jamde: and you do not install the .tar.gz, that is the sourcecode and you would have to compile it, again lets fix your sources.list. So please share the output of that command. |
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| 22:19.13 | KM0201 | Kayla: teamviewer is fine... let me install it real quick... do you have it installed already? |
| 22:19.26 | Kayla | no but is only one i installed before |
| 22:19.26 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: Hm, one problem though - it won't preserve the ownership in the backups... |
| 22:19.36 | mo1991_ | somiaj - I am tying to edit the boot menu that when grub starts - I have a "hackintosh" dual boot setup, the grub "os prober" never finds it properly and adds a bunch of stuff to the grub loader when all it needs is chainloader +1. So I always just edited the file manually, but not sure where to do this in jessie |
| 22:19.39 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: You need to be root on both machines: ssh user@othermachine sudo tar -cpz /dir/to/backup | sudo tar -xpz -C /dir/to/extract |
| 22:19.39 | KM0201 | ok... well, go ahead and install teamviewer then |
| 22:19.42 | KM0201 | i'll do the same |
| 22:20.00 | somiaj | WangDang_: so you want to copy files that you don't have readaccess to as the user you can connect with? |
| 22:20.03 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: But that would create confusion with the password prompts and tty |
| 22:20.20 | Kayla | google.com |
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| 22:20.25 | Kayla | oops |
| 22:20.29 | jamde | somiaj: I'll get the 'apt-cache policy' reponse for you to see one second |
| 22:20.49 | jamde | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/264045/ |
| 22:20.51 | jamde | that's what i have |
| 22:20.56 | WangDang_ | somaij: yes |
| 22:21.11 | somiaj | mo1991_: it is prefered you edit a custom script in /etc/grub.d/, check out the 40_custom or 41_custom templates and the README file |
| 22:21.19 | mo1991_ | somiaj - so how do I edit the menu with grub2? Also, didn't wheezy also have grub 2? I always edited this file in wheezy |
| 22:21.25 | somiaj | mo1991_: change the number to match the order you want it to appear in |
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| 22:21.50 | WangDang_ | hexnewbie: yes I am confused :) |
| 22:21.52 | somiaj | mo1991_: and then when the .menu file is genreated with update-grub it will keep adding that entry each and every time (this is the proper way to do it) |
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| 22:22.06 | jamde | somiaj: i gave you the link to apt-cache policy, do you see anything in there that may be faulty as to me installing apparmor |
| 22:22.20 | somiaj | mo1991_: nope, I think it had a version before the final location. |
| 22:22.25 | somiaj | jamde: I will go find it, I must have missed it |
| 22:22.26 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: Do you have sudo without password on either machine per chance? |
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| 22:22.35 | jamde | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/264045/ |
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| 22:22.47 | WangDang_ | hexnewbie: no |
| 22:22.51 | mo1991_ | somiaj - where is the acutal menu that currently pops up? Cause I need to remove the bogus mac boot entries as well? |
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| 22:22.55 | jamde | that's the link to my apt-cache policy response |
| 22:22.57 | somiaj | jamde: you have two issues, one not so much one I would be very careful. |
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| 22:23.14 | jamde | somiaj: cna you ellaborate? |
| 22:23.16 | somiaj | mo1991_: all the script that generate the menu are in /etc/grub.d (give me a second to fidn where the actual menu is now located) |
| 22:23.17 | jamde | can* |
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| 22:23.49 | somiaj | jamde: the first issue, you only have sources for the dvd's you isntalled and it seems this packge is not on them. You will need to use internet sources to get the packages with apt-get. |
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| 22:24.05 | somiaj | jamde: so that is why you are having troulble installing it si you only have the cdrom sources. |
| 22:24.16 | jamde | somiaj: how owuld i setup internet sources? |
| 22:24.18 | mo1991_ | somiaj, cool thanks for help. This seems to be more complicated than it used to be. I've edited a lot of grub menu's in my day and it always was just the one file it seems. |
| 22:24.24 | jamde | would* |
| 22:24.34 | somiaj | jamde: the other issue is you have some random ubuntu ppa included that could cause havok with your system. It is strongly suggested you do not mix debian with unbuntu. |
| 22:24.53 | somiaj | mo1991_: well it isn't different. If you edit the scripts you will have to do this once and each time a kernel is updated you won't have to redo it |
| 22:24.56 | WangDang_ | So how do you people do remote backups that is less complicated than the setup I have? |
| 22:25.10 | somiaj | mo1991_: if you edit the .menu file directly like you have been doing, you will have to do this every time the kernel gets upgraded and update-grub gets run. |
| 22:25.28 | jamde | somiaj: okay, i'll rid the ubuntu but how would i get internet sources? |
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| 22:25.33 | somiaj | WangDang_: rsync directly works well, maybe add the data you want to backup to a group and give the user prermissions to read it |
| 22:25.40 | somiaj | !tell jamde about wheezy sources.list |
| 22:25.46 | somiaj | jamde: read what the bot told you |
| 22:26.05 | mo1991_ | somiaj - true, I did have to edit it every kernel update. Glad to hear that won't be necessary anymore as it was a pita |
| 22:26.13 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: rsync -avHAX --fake-super --rsync-path="sudo rsync" user@remote-machine:/dir/to/backup /dir/to/store/backup |
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| 22:26.47 | somiaj | mo1991_: note I think the file is now called /boot/grub/grub.cfg but not positive, I have efi boot and things look different than I rember. Personally I use the debian scripts over editing the menu file directly |
| 22:26.49 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: If you're lucky, that will ask you for user's password. I can't tell for sure it will work |
| 22:27.05 | somiaj | mo1991_: which if you read the warning at the top of that file each time you edited it, it says don't edit this file directly, your changes will be overwritten. |
| 22:27.34 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: It doesn't require root on the local machine, however the ownership of the files will be preserved only as extended attributes and need to be restored with rsync. |
| 22:27.48 | WangDang_ | OK, first I'm gonna "man rsync" to understand that latest command sample, then I'll give it a try |
| 22:28.17 | somiaj | WangDang_: note pay attention to if you want the trailing slash on the source directory or not. (: |
| 22:28.19 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: Also... My bad, I think it would be a good idea to suffix all paths with / :) |
| 22:28.31 | jamde | somiaj: so to add sources to that list would I do ----> deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian wheezy main contrib |
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| 22:28.40 | jamde | add that to the sources.list file? |
| 22:28.54 | somiaj | JmZ_: up, though I'd suggest httpredir.debian.org over mirros.kernel.org, but choice is yours |
| 22:29.07 | somiaj | jamde: ^^ |
| 22:29.26 | somiaj | jamde: and if you don't want to use the cdrom's anymore you can comment those lines out. |
| 22:29.37 | somiaj | jamde: if you want to make the cdroms default and internet second you may ahve to do some pinning |
| 22:30.02 | jamde | okay so with what i wrote about, that will direct to internet sources? |
| 22:30.08 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: Actually, to make things easier. You said you cannot ssh *to* root. Can you ssh from the said root account? |
| 22:30.11 | jamde | somiaj: if so, ill give it a shot |
| 22:30.21 | mo1991_ | somiaj - I see what you mean with the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file being created by the /etc/grub.d files - but how do I edit the /etc/grub.d files to change the output of what they enter into /boot/grub/grub.cfg? |
| 22:30.27 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: Then you can run rsync as root on the other machine |
| 22:30.39 | WangDang_ | no, root can't ssh |
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| 22:30.53 | somiaj | mo1991_: they are scripts, as I said use 40_custom and 41_custom as templats for a custom entry script and check out the README file for more info |
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| 22:31.26 | somiaj | WangDang_: any reason you can't just make the data readable by the user who wants to do the backup? |
| 22:31.43 | mo1991_ | somiaj - ok, thanks for the help. |
| 22:32.03 | WangDang_ | to preserve ownerships and permissions |
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| 22:33.36 | hexnewbie | Also can't you edit the sudoers file to allow sudo without password only for the required tar command? |
| 22:33.57 | jamde | somiaj: dude that worked! |
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| 22:34.04 | jamde | somiaj: it was jsut about pointing to net sources |
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| 22:43.21 | somtcha | Guess I broke my display manager... using nvidia geforce 360. Bumblebee won't work for me (doesn't provide a propper error... just that lightdm failed to start) and i cant seem to get the proprietary driver installed installed either. their script tries to call 'nvidia-installer' which fails. |
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| 22:44.36 | Devastator | !nvidia |
| 22:44.36 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 22:45.21 | minitrue | n |
| 22:46.47 | WangDang_ | "~$ rsync -acrvHAX --fake-super --rsync-path="sudo rsync" sam@192.168.192.5:/etc /media/usb0/mabelle_wheezy2jessie_bkup/etc" yielded the following: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/53a9fa99/ It's the tty problem you suggested earlier |
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| 22:47.44 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: Can't you edit the sudoers file to allow sudo without password only for the required tar (or rsync) command? |
| 22:47.53 | WangDang_ | hexnewbie: just noticed your comment about making sudo possible without password just for the one command. Might try that |
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| 22:48.04 | WangDang_ | heh, just noticed it again |
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| 22:48.37 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: The rsync command is more complicated, since it is not under your control, and you have to figure out what rsync calls :) |
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| 22:49.18 | WangDang_ | I don't understand. Not under my control? what it calls? |
| 22:49.59 | WangDang_ | how is it not under my control? |
| 22:50.00 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: The local rsync calls a remote rsync on the other machine. And it adds a bunch of arguments to it. |
| 22:50.10 | WangDang_ | ah |
| 22:50.19 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: If you allow sudo for the specific command (with arguments), you have to figure out what those are first |
| 22:51.26 | WangDang_ | OK, but I'm still confused about one thing. Am I allowing sudo for the one command on the remote/source machine or for the local/destination machine? |
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| 22:52.08 | WangDang_ | in other words, am I visudo'ing on the local machine or the remote machine |
| 22:52.14 | somiaj | WangDang_: my suggestion is add the data to some group that can read it, add user to that group, and then you can still preserve ownership and permissions, just in a state that the user doing the backup and read the data. |
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| 22:52.43 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: That would actually depend on what you want. If you want to preserve the permissions exactly (with the tar command I specified earlier), then it means you need *both* |
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| 22:52.54 | WangDang_ | somiaj: I don't want to be changing ownerships of a bunch of stuff in /etc |
| 22:53.00 | somiaj | WangDang_: do you have id's of the user/groups the data is in mapped correctly on the backup machine? |
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| 22:53.29 | somtcha | where would I find nvidia-xconfig? (unable to locate package) |
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| 22:53.38 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: I'd prefer rsync for regular backups, though, and there you'd need to use fake permissions on the local machine (and no sudo), because otherwise it gets really complicated :) |
| 22:53.45 | WangDang_ | hexnewbie: and if I wanted to try with rsync rather than tar, could I do it on just one machine? |
| 22:53.48 | somiaj | somtcha: shoudln't really need it, modern xorg only needs a small 3-4 lines to tell it to use the nvidia driver, nothing more. |
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| 22:54.04 | WangDang_ | could I visudo that is to say? |
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| 22:54.22 | hexnewbie | WangDang_: With --fake-super you don't need sudo on the local machine. So visudo on the remote one |
| 22:54.33 | WangDang_ | OK |
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| 22:54.53 | somtcha | somiaj: so which ones and where? |
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| 22:56.22 | somiaj | !tell somtcha about nvidia dkms |
| 22:56.54 | somiaj | somtcha: the echo -e part of that factoid contains the few lines you need to input |
| 22:56.58 | somiaj | you can also find them on dthe debian wiki |
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| 22:57.59 | nitzer_ | hey! anybody knows if it's possible to extend a desktop to a smart tv over wifi? |
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| 22:58.39 | somtcha | https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#configure these ? so how would I get 'my identifier'? |
| 22:59.11 | somiaj | nitzer_: not sure, why wifi? what you want to do on the smart tv, watch videos/etc from the computer? |
| 22:59.38 | somiaj | somtcha: My GPU works just fine, it is a name to reference that section in other parts of your xorg.conf which you won't need |
| 22:59.50 | somiaj | somtcha: call it what ever you want basically |
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| 23:00.22 | somtcha | somiaj: And I also just call it 'device'? |
| 23:00.40 | nitzer_ | i'd like to have my laptop over my home and sometimes i need an extra monitor, having it connected to the LCD is sometimes uncomfortable |
| 23:00.47 | somiaj | somtcha: just copy it exactly as you see, the only thing you can change is My GPU if you care to give it another name. |
| 23:01.12 | nitzer_ | probably i want to show something on a browser, have the console monitoring something on the background, or something like that |
| 23:01.39 | somiaj | nitzer_: I can't think of anyways, but unsure what sort of things those smart tv's can do> I can think of ways to say play video from yoru machine over wifi with a device like comcast or maybe the smarttv has a media player that could read from a media server you run on your machine. |
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| 23:02.27 | somiaj | nitzer_: but to get the actual desktop viewed I can't think of a way to do it over wifi unless the smart tv has some sort of vnc or ability to be an internet display device which I'm unsure of. |
| 23:02.52 | nitzer_ | i suppoused DLNA could be used here |
| 23:03.39 | nitzer_ | like having a video player taking a some of the video outputs, putted them on a file and then casted to the smart tv |
| 23:03.43 | somiaj | nitzer_: yea it depends on what sort of ability this smart tv has. |
| 23:04.31 | somtcha | still get a fatal error on 'startx' .... |
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| 23:04.44 | nitzer_ | somiaj: i will investigate , thanks |
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| 23:07.40 | somiaj | nitzer_: do you know what capabilities your smartTV has, I think that is the first place, I'm seeing a list of various formats like WiDi, DLNA, etc |
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| 23:08.21 | somiaj | on DLNA is just a media server like mediatomb which is a method I suggested but this is only to say stream media not actually put your browser on the screen |
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| 23:10.59 | nitzer_ | let me see if it has widi, it could work, i think that with windows it was possible |
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| 23:14.37 | jonkri | For some reason, my chroot Debian system thinks it's out of disk space, even though df -h reports around 5G available on rootfs. Any ideas what might be causing this? |
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| 23:15.21 | hexnewbie | jonkri: How much is free in %? |
| 23:15.23 | KM0201 | r6ku: lol, she literally had like 10 copies of her sources list open...lol |
| 23:15.44 | jonkri | hexnewbie, 21%. And I'm getting these disk space errors as root. |
| 23:15.48 | r6ku | KM0201: did she get it working? |
| 23:16.07 | hexnewbie | jonkri: And that's not btrfs? |
| 23:16.35 | jonkri | hexnewbie, No, it's an old Linode server. It's ext2 or ext3. |
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| 23:18.16 | hexnewbie | jonkri: Sorry, I can't help then, but IIRC ENOSPC can be produced in some other weird instances. |
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| 23:19.13 | achylles | should I encrypt a 1 tb Hd to backup my docs? Is it possible to format it and encrypt with gparted? |
| 23:19.20 | jonkri | hexnewbie, Well, thanks anyway. :) |
| 23:19.24 | hexnewbie | jonkri: Just another idea, what does `df -i' say? |
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| 23:21.00 | jonkri | hexnewbie, I might just have messed something up now, but it says this: http://lpaste.net/135417 |
| 23:21.04 | jonkri | I should probably reboot or something. |
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| 23:21.34 | hexnewbie | Jonkri: No, you've ran out of inodes - apparently that fs can't hold more than 1.5 million files |
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| 23:22.10 | jonkri | Hehe, OK. |
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| 23:22.17 | jonkri | I wonder where those files have been created. :> |
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| 23:22.44 | jonkri | Maybe ncdu has a count mode. :) Thanks hexnewbie! |
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| 23:32.24 | KM0201 | you can unlock the screen |
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| 23:44.00 | KM0201 | r6ku: u still around? |
| 23:44.28 | r6ku | KM0201: yes |
| 23:44.44 | dvs | nope, he's still editing sources.list |
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| 23:45.50 | KM0201 | r6ku: it's not even picking up ere wireless device |
| 23:45.59 | KM0201 | (which explains why she's not seeing networks) |
| 23:46.05 | KM0201 | the intel firmware is installed, |
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| 23:46.44 | KM0201 | when you run ifconfig |
| 23:46.49 | KM0201 | it's not even showing a wireless device |
| 23:46.54 | KM0201 | just eth0 and lo |
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| 23:47.37 | KM0201 | i'm wondering if the problem isn't wicd |
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| 23:48.15 | r6ku | so now you still have to troubleshoot the wifi drivers too? |
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| 23:48.25 | barbara--- | Hi my printer has two trays. The 8 1/2 by 11 and a 4x6 tray. I tried going to Paper Source: CD Tray since Cassette prints 8 1/2 x 11 but nothing happens and I get no error |
| 23:48.43 | dvs | KM0201: turn on the wireless switch? |
| 23:49.01 | KM0201 | according to her it's on |
| 23:49.58 | r6ku | you know, these kinds of situations are the reason why ubuntu and linux mint exist |
| 23:50.06 | KM0201 | r6ku: lol |
| 23:50.13 | barbara--- | ugh I hate windows, but at least selecting the paper tray I want to use takes seconds |
| 23:50.13 | KM0201 | r6ku: well i just looked at rfkill |
| 23:50.16 | dvs | !lart r6ku |
| 23:50.16 | dpkg | beats the living hamstercrap out of r6ku |
| 23:50.18 | barbara--- | anyone have suggestions? |
| 23:50.31 | KM0201 | r6ku: i just looked at rfkill and it's showing it's softblocked |
| 23:50.33 | DebianGNU | Ubuntu and Mint GNU/Linux aren't necessary. |
| 23:51.44 | KM0201 | well, i unblocked it, but doesn't look like that's the issue |
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| 23:55.25 | barbara--- | so ugh is 2 tray printing not possible with debian? |
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