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| 00:44.07 | knoppix | hi all. i have old "wheezy" distributive. when i am trying to reload packages in synaptics it tells me:" W: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 00:44.07 | knoppix | 9D6D8F6BC857C906" and so on. From Terminal:" E: The value 'wheezy' is invalid for APT: : Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources". I already know that is because wheezy is now old distributive and it needs to change links to packages. But in which certain files it need to be done and what to write? Thank you |
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| 00:45.45 | lanodan | knoppix: try 'apt-get update' in the terminal |
| 00:45.46 | dvs | !tell knoppix about wheezy sources list |
| 00:46.06 | dvs | !tell knoppix about wheezy sources-list |
| 00:46.08 | knoppix | dvs i don't see nothing |
| 00:46.16 | dvs | hmm |
| 00:46.21 | lanodan | !tell lanodan about wheezy sources-list |
| 00:46.36 | lanodan | dvs: 07-11T02:46:21 <dpkg> i dunno what is 'wheezy sources-list'. |
| 00:46.56 | knoppix | haha ) |
| 00:47.09 | lanodan | anyway try the apt command as root |
| 00:47.39 | knoppix | lanodan, so what is the difference? answer is the same |
| 00:47.59 | knoppix | it is the same operation, just started in another program |
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| 00:48.39 | lanodan | Uh try reinstalling debian-archive-keyring (should not have failed but whatever) |
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| 00:55.47 | abrotman | dpkg: tell dvs about wheezy sources.list |
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| 00:57.33 | dvs | doh! |
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| 00:58.13 | abrotman | :-* |
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| 01:01.48 | asdrubal555 | hello everyone... i downloaded a program... when i try to run it... it says "cannot open shared library libXft.so.2" |
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| 01:01.57 | asdrubal555 | but actually i have this library installed.... |
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| 01:02.22 | asdrubal555 | i looked into /etc/ld.so.conf and it points to the directory |
| 01:02.28 | asdrubal555 | where there exist this library... |
| 01:02.39 | asdrubal555 | how can i make that executable file to load that library ? |
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| 01:13.30 | gin | Seems like no one want's to help you :( |
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| 01:20.04 | asdrubal555 | ok i solved it ! =) |
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| 01:32.53 | lkz0ne | Hi all |
| 01:33.19 | lkz0ne | have a question |
| 01:33.47 | lkz0ne | how i add a packet signature to drop in iptables rules? |
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| 01:38.29 | cast | what is a packet signature? |
| 01:38.43 | black | i was gonna ask that |
| 01:38.44 | black | :x |
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| 01:40.16 | black | i wonder if he means type, or something |
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| 01:41.29 | rhizome | statefulness perhaps |
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| 01:43.24 | lkz0ne | i guess it is with the --u32 parameter |
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| 01:44.13 | lkz0ne | 10.000000000192.168.0.10216.58.222.46TCP6634158 > https [FIN, ACK] Seq=1 Ack=1 Win=229 Len=0 TSval=2310440 TSecr=31256722 |
| 01:44.18 | lkz0ne | example |
| 01:45.14 | lkz0ne | .../.~&....U..M...T<..Hzy.....W.......)....9w..........W..........g.)&J...Tmj8.....Cq.T |
| 01:45.14 | lkz0ne | v....~,..,..(.,_..p4.K..M |
| 01:45.14 | lkz0ne | .+".B.Q.S..1..rh.KI..,g...{........~&....V...}%+...j.kho8C....>...x...D..VP....[g..h..RU..V @T#....1....W.......>..fyo.........Bk.......g8F.3.2 .M...`...-=Gq..?...}k..-...i<......}.Y)m.. |
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| 01:45.52 | lkz0ne | how to i locate it and drop in iptables all packet that have it contains? |
| 01:46.32 | lkz0ne | cast black rhizome |
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| 01:47.24 | black | what about, what are you trying to do with iptables? |
| 01:47.44 | black | something tells me you want to redirect https traffic somewhere, and or drop it |
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| 01:48.46 | lkz0ne | I'm trying drop packet that contains a specific content |
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| 01:48.48 | lkz0ne | black |
| 01:48.54 | black | and what is the content? |
| 01:49.07 | black | you can use --string if you know the content but idk if it works with https |
| 01:49.11 | lkz0ne | is encrypted ... it is comming from 443 port |
| 01:49.25 | lkz0ne | THANKS black |
| 01:49.28 | lkz0ne | :D |
| 01:49.34 | black | want a example? |
| 01:49.39 | lkz0ne | u can? |
| 01:49.40 | black | or you going to google for it? |
| 01:49.43 | black | yeah |
| 01:49.51 | lkz0ne | yep please |
| 01:50.16 | black | -A FORWARD -m string --string ".torrent" --algo bm --to 65535 -j DROP |
| 01:50.19 | black | for example |
| 01:50.26 | black | thats how i block some torrent traffic |
| 01:50.30 | lkz0ne | i catch it |
| 01:50.34 | lkz0ne | :D |
| 01:50.56 | black | then there you go |
| 01:51.14 | black | -A PREROUTING -m string --hex-string "|13426974546f7272656e742070726f746f636f6c|" --algo bm --to 65535 -j DROP |
| 01:51.16 | black | thats the right way |
| 01:51.17 | black | or |
| 01:51.24 | black | -A OUTPUT -m string --string "GET /scrape.php?info_hash=" --algo bm --to 65535 -j DROP |
| 01:51.48 | lkz0ne | what is --algo? |
| 01:51.57 | lkz0ne | the parameter |
| 01:52.23 | lkz0ne | and the -m ? |
| 01:52.37 | lkz0ne | sorry . i'll google it |
| 01:52.49 | black | algorythm i belive |
| 01:53.12 | black | https://wiztelsys.com/blog/iptables-string-matching-for-advanced-firewalling/ |
| 01:53.26 | black | iptables -m string -help |
| 01:53.39 | black | http://spamcleaner.org/en/misc/w00tw00t.html |
| 01:53.43 | lkz0ne | thanks .. i need this .. i'm being DDoSed |
| 01:55.43 | black | that wont help you |
| 01:55.59 | black | if they fill your network up with packets, its going to knock you out. |
| 01:56.09 | black | if your 10mbps, and they are sending 50mbps, you're finished. |
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| 01:58.23 | lkz0ne | not cuz i'm in brasil and their servers is in USA xD |
| 01:58.46 | lkz0ne | but they are filling me with packets |
| 01:59.21 | lkz0ne | and scanning my ports |
| 01:59.53 | lkz0ne | hehe |
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| 02:14.54 | cast | good luck trying to drop ciphertext based on a plaintext string...even the ciphertext isn't going to be consistent because of session keys |
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| 02:15.54 | lkz0ne | do you have any idea? |
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| 02:16.59 | cast | maybe explain what you're trying to accomplish |
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| 02:19.14 | lkz0ne | so, begin |
| 02:19.23 | lkz0ne | kkkkkkkkkkkkkk |
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| 02:32.34 | kevr | is roundcube still okay to use on jessie? looks like it was taken out due to the devs not being able to commit support |
| 02:32.43 | kevr | and if it's not okay; what are some other good alternatives? |
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| 03:02.15 | emunah | how do i get rid of the water droplet sound effect every time i perform a user error on debian jessie? |
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| 03:02.52 | emunah | nevermind figured it out |
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| 03:21.36 | emunah | i am having a strange problem with the mysql-server package, i am able to run "mysqld" and get the server to run however when i run "/etc/init.d/mysql start" nothing happens and nothing is logged into /var/log/mysql/error.log, i'm not sure what to do at this point, how do i troubleshoot the /etc/init.d/mysql script |
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| 03:37.37 | nanaxima | hi, I'm looking for a replacement to my TrueCrypt program. What could be a nice replacement to it? (from the official repos only) |
| 03:38.00 | angevin | Can someone please explain Debian elitism to me ? I used Debian slink back in the 90s which was much harder to use than current Debian and it is less secure and more usefriendly than OpenBSD. So I am confused |
| 03:38.13 | angevin | I fail to see how Debian is elite |
| 03:38.52 | angevin | I find elitism in the arch linux and Debian community but it makes no sense to me |
| 03:39.14 | angevin | I am using debian testing and it is ridiculously easy to install and use |
| 03:39.48 | cast | nanaxima: use cruptsetup, |
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| 03:40.10 | cast | nanaxima: erm, cryptsetup, probably with luks. its supported by the debian installer, and what almost all distros use for FDE |
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| 03:40.33 | cast | angevin: elitism? where have you experienced this elitism? |
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| 03:41.14 | angevin | cast: well at least the debian installer using like /dev/urandom or /dev/random before using luks unlike Ubuntu and Mint but with OpenBSD and Slackware you do that kind of stuff by hand in the terminal first |
| 03:41.21 | rootd00d | i wish linus had more favourable things to say during his keynote regarding distros. |
| 03:41.47 | nanaxima | cast: is it compatible with TrueCrypt container? |
| 03:41.55 | angevin | cast: lol it is a total joke that you claim that debian elitism doesn't exist although it may not be as pronounced as in the OpenBSD and to a lesser extent arch linux communities |
| 03:41.57 | cast | nanaxima: nope. |
| 03:42.19 | rootd00d | like, seriously. even just a tiny bone throw would have been ok. like, he diminished all of the work maintainers do, even calling it boring and stupid work, and i'm thinking, buddy, these are the folks that have made any of it reach anyone. |
| 03:42.33 | angevin | cast: debian is so easy to use that a retarded chimpanzee cold use it and it is no where near as secure or stable as OpenBSD |
| 03:42.38 | rootd00d | there was a strange paradox to his attitude he doesn't pick up on. |
| 03:42.56 | nanaxima | cast: I dont mind switching my files from one TC container to another so I'll take a look, thank you! ;) |
| 03:42.59 | cast | angevin: i didn't claim debian elitism didn't exist, i was asking where you experienced it. |
| 03:43.22 | angevin | cast: the only reason I have debian testing on this laptop rather than OpenBSD is because OpenBSD doesn't support my graphics card and wifi card (easily fixed with a usb wifi dongle or coding my own driver) |
| 03:44.06 | rootd00d | angevin: if debian elitism exists, it's because folks have tried other distros, and keep going back. there are reasons, which are generally an extension of core principles that seem to actually work. |
| 03:44.24 | cast | angevin: cool story. the only reason i stopped using openbsd was because the package management, upgrade method, and the disk encryption, all sucked at the time. i can't say i found the openbsd community elitist, either |
| 03:44.33 | angevin | cast: I used to buy only thinkpads so I could run OpenBSD but I bought my current laptop on a whim so unfortunately I am stuck with the crappiness that is debian since slackware hasn't had a new release in ages |
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| 03:44.57 | cast | i'm getting the vibe you feel that debian users are elitist and debian is crap. |
| 03:45.03 | angevin | cast: my next laptop is going to be another thinkpad so I don't have to run this piece of shit operating system known as linux |
| 03:45.18 | rootd00d | so, when i tell someone i think debian is the best, it's not because debian is some kind of utopia, but because "what happened to mandrake?" |
| 03:45.27 | cast | on the topic, you can run debian without linux :) |
| 03:45.28 | angevin | cast: linux has never been about quality there are so many parts of the system that are these cheap little hacks and it just happens to run |
| 03:45.38 | angevin | cast: OpenBSD is about quality |
| 03:45.57 | cast | angevin: ironically some might view your current attitude as elitist... |
| 03:46.30 | cast | angevin: at any rate, great. we shouldn't have this convo here. we could join debian-offtopic if you want. |
| 03:47.17 | rootd00d | did debian take away your gameboy or something? made you go to bed? |
| 03:48.06 | angevin | cast: I never claimed I wasn't elitist. My IQ is in the top 10% of society. I have the body of an underwear model and my favorite operating system is OpenBSD. I am by definition an elitist |
| 03:48.18 | angevin | cast: it is just that debian is not elite any shape or form whatsoever |
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| 03:49.00 | r6ku | then go use OpenBSD and stop bothering us |
| 03:49.33 | cast | apparently it didn't support his hardware as well as linux, thus he didn't want to use it. |
| 03:50.16 | cast | none the less, i feel a bit of sympathy for him, i get annoyed at windows only hardware and would be frustrated if i had to run windows because of a poor laptop decision |
| 03:51.31 | usuario | b |
| 03:53.18 | atesec | i like openbsd.. i'm on linuxmint now but it will randomly crash sometimes.. i need to copy everything to an external drive and install a new distro. i've used debian but not the new version |
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| 03:54.31 | cast | i like parts of openbsd, pf especially. (wonder if nft is suitable for home use in place of iptables yet?) |
| 03:55.27 | cast | not sure i overall agree with it being better quality, though. take disk encryption, the method used to be through vconfig -k, which A: used blowfish which has too small a blocksize, and B: was reported to fail when your volume got close to 1GB |
| 03:55.55 | phy1729 | r6ku: fortunantly he's not in #openbsd so we can ridicule him there too |
| 03:56.00 | cast | constrast that to linux at the time, which had loopaes and the old losetup way, both of which were much nicer |
| 03:56.08 | atesec | yeah i dont think oBSD uses vconfig anymore though does it |
| 03:56.26 | cast | nah, they moved that disk encryption into the raid tool i believe |
| 03:56.34 | cast | that makes it viable for me as a desktop again |
| 03:56.52 | atesec | hmm |
| 03:57.00 | atesec | cause i installed 5.6 and used FDE but i didn't use vconfig |
| 03:57.03 | atesec | can't remember what it was |
| 03:57.07 | phy1729 | bioctl |
| 03:57.14 | atesec | that sounds familiar |
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| 04:04.06 | shibly | Hi |
| 04:04.09 | hsifnd | hi |
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| 04:06.16 | hsifnd | Hello I try to do a retriving file of a website but I can not take the background with wget |
| 04:06.28 | hsifnd | I tried -o and --background |
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| 04:09.11 | atesec | weget url & |
| 04:09.14 | atesec | wget** |
| 04:09.32 | atesec | you're trying to get the background image file? |
| 04:09.50 | atesec | find the URL in the page source (could use curl if you want) and then wget it |
| 04:10.00 | atesec | if you use -o specify a filename to save the background image |
| 04:10.31 | hsifnd | <atesec> you're trying to get the background image file? yes |
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| 04:11.15 | atesec | okay do you have the URL for the background file? |
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| 04:11.30 | hsifnd | You did not understood me I want to take a entier website with the background of more. |
| 04:13.56 | hsifnd | I do not speak english well I do not know If what I mean is bottom for background. |
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| 04:19.45 | atesec | hm |
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| 04:24.05 | emunah | why does /etc/systemd/system/mysql.service pint to /dev/null???? i'm trying to figure out why it won't start from "/etc/init.d/mysql start" and i think this has something to do with it |
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| 04:33.34 | PryMar56 | emunah, sudo systemctl unmask mysql.service |
| 04:33.47 | emunah | what will that do? |
| 04:34.36 | emunah | woah dude |
| 04:34.38 | emunah | mysql starts now |
| 04:34.42 | atesec | lol |
| 04:34.44 | emunah | i don't understand |
| 04:34.46 | emunah | wtf |
| 04:34.52 | atesec | man systemctl |
| 04:34.58 | atesec | find unmask |
| 04:34.59 | emunah | please explain it to me like i'm five years old |
| 04:35.16 | atesec | could have been masked to /dev/null for security purposes |
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| 04:35.34 | emunah | why was that mysql.service file there in the first place? why was it stopping my database from starting? |
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| 04:36.13 | atesec | if it was pointing to /dev/null, then it would not start because its pointing to the null device |
| 04:36.25 | atesec | if you check the systemctl manpage it will tell you all about unmask |
| 04:36.31 | atesec | answering your question for ya |
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| 04:38.06 | emunah | well i really don't want to read the man page on it, i want to focus more on developing my app than something i won't need to know again for maybe a year |
| 04:38.41 | atesec | refusing to read man pages / documentation is the anti-thesis of developmenmt |
| 04:38.43 | atesec | development |
| 04:38.57 | atesec | it would only take you a couple minutes to scroll through the man page :P |
| 04:38.58 | emunah | i read it for java code |
| 04:39.04 | emunah | that's about it |
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| 04:39.15 | emunah | java code and apis |
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| 04:39.19 | atesec | and look what happened, when you ran into a problem you were unable to fix it :P |
| 04:39.28 | emunah | its linuxfoo |
| 04:39.29 | atesec | do you want to be the type of developer who can't work when something goes wrong |
| 04:39.37 | atesec | or do you wanna be the type of developer who knows what he is doing? |
| 04:39.39 | emunah | i'll get a linux expert to whip up some linuxfoo |
| 04:39.55 | atesec | *shrug* to each their own |
| 04:40.08 | atesec | it's nice being able to fix your own problems :P |
| 04:40.11 | emunah | i've been institutionalized in a corporation, when i have a linux question i ask a linux guy |
| 04:40.24 | atesec | you use linux ya? |
| 04:40.32 | emunah | yes |
| 04:40.33 | atesec | you are the linux guy then :P |
| 04:40.42 | emunah | you are right |
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| 04:40.53 | atesec | i just want you to be the best you can be |
| 04:40.55 | atesec | <3 |
| 04:40.58 | emunah | thank you |
| 04:41.07 | emunah | have a good night gentlemen |
| 04:41.12 | atesec | and you as well sir |
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| 04:47.35 | PMT | hm, seems like I need to go report a problem against...something. |
| 04:47.51 | PMT | I'm running apt-get install on packages supplied from a third-party repo, and apt-get is segfaulting. |
| 04:47.56 | PMT | http://pastebin.com/3R5HCg6H |
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| 04:53.55 | BuzzardBuzz | why not use the normal repo? |
| 04:55.04 | PMT | Because I need mono >= 4.X, which is not anywhere in Debian's normal repos AFAIK, but that's not really the interesting part. |
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| 04:57.28 | BuzzardBuzz | so load module directives are not working for you yet? |
| 04:57.41 | BuzzardBuzz | for 2.4? |
| 04:59.59 | PMT | I don't understand the question, I think. |
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| 05:06.47 | factor1 | How do I install an intel 64bit seems only i686 exist for intel chipsets. |
| 05:07.23 | PMT | factor1: amd64/x86_64 also applies to Intel 64-bit x86-based processors. |
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| 05:07.31 | CplNet | factor1 use x64. |
| 05:07.36 | factor1 | ahh ok |
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| 05:09.32 | cast | it'll be called 'amd64' |
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| 05:19.30 | shay_shay | but... i use intel |
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| 05:19.40 | shay_shay | :) |
| 05:20.17 | factor1 | Yes I installed thew i686 only to find it was just 32 bit |
| 05:20.33 | factor1 | brb switch my name back |
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| 05:50.19 | psyverqq | hi, does Debian Jessie offers possibilty to encrypt the home folder at setup? (like Ubuntu) |
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| 05:51.04 | jaybe | yes; option to define disk setup with encrypted lvm, for example |
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| 05:54.36 | psyverqq | jaybe: its different to full disk encryption right? |
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| 05:57.23 | cast | you could encrypt just the partition |
| 05:57.50 | cast | debian has ecryptfs, like ubuntu has, you could use that to do your home directory encryption |
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| 05:58.38 | telmac | my fn key (or at least I belive it is an fn key) does not work, it appears in neither xev nor showkeys |
| 05:59.19 | telmac | I'm on a lenovo x131e chromebook, I patched the bios with seabios |
| 05:59.47 | telmac | is it possible that this is seabios's fault? |
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| 06:11.23 | psyverqq | cast: why Debian doesnt propose to encrypt home folder at install like ubuntu does? |
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| 12:36.02 | zh1 | https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer/#Upgrade will this work on debian 8? |
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| 12:36.47 | abrotman | zh1: update-flashplugin-nonfree |
| 12:37.39 | zh1 | returns me command not found |
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| 12:38.55 | abrotman | dpkg: tell zh1 about flash |
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| 12:40.26 | gammaray67 | is the problem with LXC fixed now in debian jessie? |
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| 12:43.19 | hassoon | 'Evening. |
| 12:43.27 | zh1 | abrotman, https://img.bi/#/ezkPHpR!NuFh1wDQ-N0wNNrbUgDLIkjQ1TpgzgDnfABQyiYp this is why i hate flash |
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| 12:44.04 | hassoon | abrotman: well update it |
| 12:44.28 | abrotman | hassoon: I'm not having a problem |
| 12:44.58 | hassoon | then why you hate it? because of that last famous security flaw? :> |
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| 12:45.12 | abrotman | ... |
| 12:45.23 | abrotman | hassoon: you're confused, try again |
| 12:45.44 | hassoon | nah, i know what i'm talking about mann |
| 12:45.51 | abrotman | No, you don't |
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| 12:47.55 | hassoon | abrotman: adobe's flash plugin is known to have a security flaw recently, that's why the plugin users have started getting notified about updating their plugins, and since your screen-shot shows that case, this is the thing |
| 12:47.56 | hassoon | :D |
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| 12:48.26 | abrotman | hassoon: Please try reading before harassing people |
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| 12:53.53 | BluesKaj | the iceweasel browser lacks the newest flash plugin ...not thst it matters , switched to google-chrome, no more flash problems |
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| 12:59.27 | zh1 | i cant seem to find a direct way to update flash on iceweasel |
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| 13:01.14 | BluesKaj | zh1, I couldn't find the new plugin to update it, so i'm using google-chrome for now, it works |
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| 13:03.28 | BluesKaj | chrome seesm to have fixed their hard coded font for the url addressbar , used to be unreadably small on a large screen monitor their was no workaround to make the font setting larger |
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| 13:17.29 | head8debian | zh1: It gets updated using apt-get update. |
| 13:17.34 | head8debian | Or apt. |
| 13:17.58 | head8debian | Im running the latest version in debian, and its still outdated. |
| 13:18.58 | abrotman | depends how you installed it |
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| 13:19.18 | zh1 | head8debian, i have updates |
| 13:22.16 | zh1 | noticed my other pc debian iceweasel runs ok, so maybe i have here something diferent |
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| 13:24.38 | Carno | zh1, did You run update-flashplugin-nonfree --install with root? |
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| 13:24.51 | zh1 | yes |
| 13:25.08 | Carno | and did You install flashplugin-nonfree? |
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| 13:25.29 | BluesKaj | zh1, jessie ? |
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| 13:26.11 | zh1 | yes jessie |
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| 13:26.26 | zh1 | Carno, i have to check |
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| 13:34.47 | zh1 | solved, i missed one line on sources and i updated flash |
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| 13:35.34 | BluesKaj | zh1, which line? |
| 13:35.54 | zh1 | deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports iceweasel-release |
| 13:36.28 | BluesKaj | zh1, thanks |
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| 14:00.06 | atomtm | Hello guys i recently tried to install nvidia drivers following this : https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 now whenever i try to login i get a blackscreen and cant start x |
| 14:00.16 | atomtm | Pls help me :-) |
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| 14:06.22 | KM0201 | atomtm: did you install the legacy or the current? |
| 14:06.57 | KM0201 | and did you create a xorg file as instructed |
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| 14:08.48 | atomtm | KM0201,current |
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| 14:09.19 | KM0201 | atomtm: what device? |
| 14:09.32 | KM0201 | and did you create a xorg file as the instructions indicated |
| 14:09.33 | atomtm | 760MGtx |
| 14:10.02 | atomtm | Yes i did with nvidia-config |
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| 14:11.21 | KM0201 | i would try running nvidia-config again... and try taking some very basic settings (you maybe your display was set out of range, or some other minor quirk?) |
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| 14:12.01 | atomtm | Ok run nvidia-config again? |
| 14:12.25 | KM0201 | atomtm: that would be the first thing i would try.. and just try to take some very basic settings. |
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| 14:12.57 | atomtm | K i will try that |
| 14:13.19 | KM0201 | in ohter words, if you have a big ass monitor, or a monitor that supports some weird resolution that isn't very common just try a basic resolution, like 1280x1024 |
| 14:13.51 | KM0201 | if that doesn't work, then the easy thing is to just uninstall the driver, and that should get you at least back to a working desktop and you can try to trouble shoot it further |
| 14:15.31 | atomtm | I get unable to locate/open x configuration file |
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| 14:15.49 | KM0201 | sounds like your xorg file wasn't configured |
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| 14:16.42 | KM0201 | atomtm: did you install nvidia-xconfig, and run it to automatically create your xorg.conf? |
| 14:16.58 | atomtm | Yes |
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| 14:18.03 | atomtm | After the warning I get new configuration file written to /etcx11 |
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| 14:18.25 | KM0201 | well, ok.. sounds like you have a new configuration file there now. |
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| 14:18.29 | atomtm | Sry cant type correctly i am on android phone |
| 14:18.33 | KM0201 | understand |
| 14:18.52 | jrm | I just attempted to install for the first time. This is on a Lenovo T530 (intel GPU). The install goes fine, but the system dosen't boot. We just see a flashing cursor. Suggestions? |
| 14:20.07 | KM0201 | atomtm: try cd /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d (then hit enter) |
| 14:20.26 | KM0201 | then ls , that should list the contents of that directory... see if there's more than 1 xorg.conf |
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| 14:21.55 | KM0201 | atomtm: from reading that though, it looks like it's suggesting not to use the nvidia driver, saying nouveau works well.. |
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| 14:23.33 | KM0201 | jrm: dual booting or is debian the only OS? |
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| 14:24.30 | KM0201 | and are you getting a grub menu? |
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| 14:27.35 | atomtm | I installed bumblebee nothing changes |
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| 14:27.55 | atomtm | With reboot and startx i get no screens found |
| 14:28.29 | atomtm | How can I unintall the nvia driver? |
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| 14:32.25 | atomtm | apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-dkms ? |
| 14:33.18 | KM0201 | atomtm: yeah |
| 14:33.23 | jrm | KM0201: There are two drives in the laptop, but I'm not dual booting. I installed everything on the drive, including grub and select the boot device at startup or change the order in the BIOS. |
| 14:33.58 | KM0201 | maybe grub accidentally got installed to the wrong drive? Have you tried booting the other drive, to see if grub got installed there? |
| 14:34.32 | jrm | KM0201: Other drive is fine. The OS, FreeBSD, boots with it's own boot loader still. |
| 14:34.39 | jrm | its |
| 14:34.46 | KM0201 | hmm |
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| 14:37.55 | atomtm | KM0201,the following packages have unmet dependencies nvidia driver : depends nvidia kernel dkms(=340.65-2) or nvidia-kernel-340.65 |
| 14:38.30 | KM0201 | well, that explains that problem |
| 14:38.42 | atomtm | ? |
| 14:39.05 | KM0201 | if that's the driver, it has unmet dependencies, which.. probably is what is causing this problem |
| 14:39.20 | KM0201 | did you did you adjust your source list the way the instructions stated? |
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| 14:40.24 | atomtm | I did but let me check it once again |
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| 14:41.36 | atomtm | Double entry... |
| 14:41.55 | KM0201 | whats the double entry? |
| 14:42.26 | KM0201 | atomtm: youc an try to fix the dependency problem |
| 14:42.28 | atomtm | I had it twice on my sources.list |
| 14:42.30 | KM0201 | by running apt-get -f install |
| 14:42.37 | KM0201 | atomtm: that wouldn't cause a problem like this. |
| 14:42.51 | jrm | I'm in the rescue mode and I'll try and reinstall grub. The drive is sdb. With all default options I should reinstall grub to /dev/sdb1, right? |
| 14:43.02 | KM0201 | jrm: negative. |
| 14:43.08 | KM0201 | (at least i never do).. /dev/sdb |
| 14:43.14 | jrm | K |
| 14:43.28 | KM0201 | you want it on the root partition |
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| 14:43.52 | atomtm | KM0201,k i will try to remove it again |
| 14:43.55 | KM0201 | well, mabye root partition isn't the proper wording... boot partition maybe? |
| 14:44.00 | KM0201 | atomtm: i didn't say remove it again |
| 14:44.01 | abrotman | boot sector |
| 14:44.06 | KM0201 | abrotman: there you go. |
| 14:44.19 | jrm | Oh, there we go. It's booting. Nice. Thanks |
| 14:44.36 | KM0201 | you probably just put grub on the wrong partition by accident |
| 14:44.55 | KM0201 | (actually not probably.. that's what happened..lol) |
| 14:44.55 | atomtm | KM0201,Apt-get -f install ? |
| 14:44.59 | jrm | KM0201: I just selected the default during the install. |
| 14:45.00 | KM0201 | atomtm: yes |
| 14:45.04 | atomtm | Ok |
| 14:45.07 | KM0201 | see if that is able to fix the problem |
| 14:46.13 | atomtm | 0 upgrDed 0 newly created 0 to remove |
| 14:46.35 | KM0201 | ok, so.. if it were me... i'd remove the nvidia driver (probably woudln't have installed it in the first place, but to late for that) |
| 14:46.43 | KM0201 | and hopefully that gets you back to a working desktop |
| 14:47.20 | atomtm | apt-get remove nvidis-kernel-dkms? |
| 14:47.53 | KM0201 | jrm: sometimes (not often, but sometimes).... if you're installing from flash media, it might try to install grub to the flash (which is actualy the installer).. i've had that happen before, w/o showing me an error of any type |
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| 14:48.13 | KM0201 | atomtm: before you do that |
| 14:48.17 | KM0201 | is nvidia-driver installed? |
| 14:48.20 | KM0201 | apt-get install nvidia-driver |
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| 14:49.10 | atomtm | Already newest version |
| 14:49.39 | KM0201 | then... apt-get remove nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-driver and hopefully tha twill get you back to a working desktop, so you can try to trouble shoot this further |
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| 14:55.33 | atomtm | KM0201,still no screens found |
| 14:55.37 | atomtm | Pffff |
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| 14:58.03 | KM0201 | atomtm: sorry, you're at the limit of my knowledge on this, which wasnt muchanyway |
| 14:58.34 | atomtm | No prob i really thank you for your help |
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| 14:59.59 | KM0201 | atomtm: try running this command and follow the prompts... see if this gets you anywhere dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
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| 15:00.49 | lkz0ne | hiho |
| 15:01.20 | lkz0ne | is possible create a snort behavior when this detect a possible invasion? |
| 15:01.34 | KM0201 | invasion?..lol |
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| 15:02.33 | lkz0ne | what lol? |
| 15:03.00 | atomtm | KM0201, no output from command |
| 15:03.18 | atomtm | With startx i get a screen with a sad face |
| 15:03.39 | KM0201 | hmm |
| 15:03.50 | lkz0ne | is possible create a snort behavior for any ? |
| 15:03.54 | AlexLikeRock | atomtm, log out, an try with other desktop |
| 15:04.09 | atomtm | Something has gone wrong :( |
| 15:04.10 | AlexLikeRock | atomtm, do yo have another ? |
| 15:04.31 | AlexLikeRock | yes, maybe you pc its too slow to Gnome3 |
| 15:04.34 | KM0201 | AlexLikeRock: i don't think so.. this started when he tried to install the nvidia driver |
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| 15:04.50 | AlexLikeRock | oh |
| 15:04.52 | atomtm | Yes no slow pc |
| 15:05.05 | AlexLikeRock | so... remove currently driver |
| 15:05.13 | atomtm | What do you mean with other desktop |
| 15:05.14 | KM0201 | AlexLikeRock: did that |
| 15:05.23 | KM0201 | atomtm: gnome, kde, etc. |
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| 15:05.42 | AlexLikeRock | atomtm, yes . kde, xfce, twm ... |
| 15:05.44 | atomtm | How can i do this from command prompt |
| 15:05.59 | KM0201 | atomtm: if you didn't install an additional desktop.. you don't have an additional one. |
| 15:06.03 | KM0201 | so.. this isn't your problem |
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| 15:06.13 | atomtm | I did |
| 15:06.18 | KM0201 | .. |
| 15:06.20 | atomtm | Cinnamon |
| 15:06.23 | KM0201 | would've been nice to mention that |
| 15:06.30 | atomtm | Sorry |
| 15:07.05 | AlexLikeRock | atomtm, do you have aditional destop ? |
| 15:07.24 | AlexLikeRock | i can helyou |
| 15:07.29 | AlexLikeRock | i can help you |
| 15:07.32 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
| 15:07.33 | atomtm | Yrs gnome |
| 15:07.42 | AlexLikeRock | gnome , and.. |
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| 15:07.48 | AlexLikeRock | what more ? |
| 15:07.48 | atomtm | Cinnamon |
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| 15:08.07 | AlexLikeRock | ok, go to cinnamon |
| 15:08.48 | atomtm | I dont get a login screen,just blank screen with login |
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| 15:09.11 | atomtm | From there i try startx and get error |
| 15:09.17 | BluesKaj | a VT |
| 15:09.21 | atomtm | The sad face :( |
| 15:09.28 | Fyr | guys, can I install standard Debian armhf on Banana Pro? |
| 15:09.33 | AlexLikeRock | PREST botons ALT + PETSIS + K |
| 15:09.39 | AlexLikeRock | they logout |
| 15:09.48 | atomtm | Petsis |
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| 15:09.55 | atomtm | ? |
| 15:10.09 | AlexLikeRock | petsis = Impr Pant |
| 15:10.48 | AlexLikeRock | http://img.desmotivaciones.es/201012/impr_pant1.jpg |
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| 15:12.53 | jelly | !sysrq |
| 15:12.53 | dpkg | hmm... sysrq is Alt-PrintScreen-[Key]. For a clean reboot with a semi-locked machine, try [Key] with s-u-b, s for sync, u for remount readonly and b for reBoot. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key and http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/sysrq.txt . See also <sysrqd>. |
| 15:13.30 | AlexLikeRock | tanks jelly |
| 15:13.37 | atomtm | Ok now what? |
| 15:13.41 | atomtm | Login? |
| 15:14.38 | AlexLikeRock | select CINAMON to login |
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| 15:15.54 | atomtm | No choice i just have a black screen with login promp no gui |
| 15:16.47 | AlexLikeRock | ok ,,. |
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| 15:19.47 | atomtm | So should i login? |
| 15:19.53 | AlexLikeRock | try |
| 15:19.56 | AlexLikeRock | cinnamon & |
| 15:20.10 | atomtm | Ok |
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| 15:21.33 | AlexLikeRock | work ? |
| 15:21.43 | atomtm | Unable to open x display |
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| 15:22.21 | AlexLikeRock | -.- |
| 15:22.37 | atomtm | Yes |
| 15:22.46 | AlexLikeRock | they work ? |
| 15:22.56 | atomtm | No |
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| 15:22.59 | AlexLikeRock | lol |
| 15:23.03 | AlexLikeRock | $ su |
| 15:23.14 | AlexLikeRock | (passwor root ) |
| 15:23.22 | AlexLikeRock | # aptitude update |
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| 15:24.05 | AlexLikeRock | # aptitude remove gdm3 |
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| 15:24.27 | AlexLikeRock | # aptitude install kdm |
| 15:24.39 | AlexLikeRock | do this atomtm ! |
| 15:25.18 | Doyle__ | Hey. I'm looking for a USB wireless adapter that debian has the drivers for. I'm installing Debian 8.1 on a macbook pro retina, but the wireless refuses to come up. I've tried the solutions online, but copying dependencies manually isn't getting me anywhere. |
| 15:25.24 | atomtm | Wouldnt like to remove gnome |
| 15:25.44 | atomtm | This happenned after i installed nvidia driver |
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| 15:26.07 | AlexLikeRock | no,no gnome |
| 15:26.09 | abrotman | Doyle: the bcm drivers don't work? |
| 15:26.13 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.17 | abrotman | GDM3 |
| 15:26.23 | Doyle | abrotman, nope |
| 15:26.46 | Doyle | I'm not new to linux either. It's exceedingly frustrating. |
| 15:27.00 | atomtm | What is gdm3 |
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| 15:27.04 | abrotman | Broadcom can suck it |
| 15:27.20 | abrotman | Doyle: the better/easier adapters are atheros-based |
| 15:27.33 | Doyle | I started with the installers, and went back and fourth with my usb stick until I had all the dependencies... it sucked. |
| 15:27.35 | AlexLikeRock | login interface only , atomtm |
| 15:27.46 | atomtm | Ok |
| 15:27.57 | abrotman | I mean, pretty much anything non-BCM-based is easier |
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| 15:28.13 | Doyle | abrotman, ok, I'll have a look and see what I can find at canadacomputers |
| 15:28.25 | atomtm | Wait i have duplicate sources.list entry |
| 15:28.26 | abrotman | 14.4 modem? :) |
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| 15:28.42 | AlexLikeRock | atomtm, do faster |
| 15:28.47 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.10 | Doyle | http://www.wifi-shop24.com/TP-Link-TL-WN725N-24-GHz-WiFi-USB-Adapter-Nano-150-Mbps abrotman, would this work? |
| 15:30.32 | atomtm | I am on android phone. I will try to find a second laptop to chat properly |
| 15:30.42 | atomtm | Appreciate your help |
| 15:30.42 | AlexLikeRock | ok, |
| 15:30.58 | AlexLikeRock | its working the machichine with debian ? |
| 15:31.15 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Doyle about TL-WN725N |
| 15:31.26 | AlexLikeRock | atomtm, |
| 15:32.19 | abrotman | Doyle: so, potentially, you'd use the "firmware netinst" and get that working |
| 15:34.18 | Doyle | Ideally I'd like something I can plugin and have work... What drivers are included in 8.1? |
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| 15:35.01 | Doyle | I tried a Cisco AE2500, and a TL-WN7200ND without any luck. Foudnout the 2500 uses the BCM drivers... |
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| 15:35.21 | r6ku | Doyle: if you've got money to burn, this will definitely work: https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb |
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| 15:36.41 | Doyle | Interesting |
| 15:36.54 | AlexLikeRock | lol money to burn... |
| 15:37.01 | abrotman | Doyle: you'll have better luck with anything not using BCM* |
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| 15:37.45 | Doyle | Still, considering how many laptops don't come with RJ45 ports, it'd make sense that more wireless drivers be included, or at least packaged in a way that makes it easy to support different hardware. |
| 15:38.02 | Doyle | abrotman, I'll be avoiding BCM from now on |
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| 15:39.36 | abrotman | Doyle: not if you keep buying Mac stuff |
| 15:39.50 | Doyle | Yo, I didn't buy it |
| 15:40.00 | Doyle | Work supplied. |
| 15:40.10 | Doyle | But it is really nice hardware |
| 15:40.27 | abrotman | I just gave mine up |
| 15:40.35 | Doyle | What drives me nuts is the keyboard mapping to an external pc keyboard |
| 15:40.41 | Doyle | No Guake... |
| 15:41.18 | optraz | my disk on laptop is dying, is there a way to copy all from this disk to a new disk and fix this disk into the laptop? assuming hardware all same but just different disk |
| 15:41.18 | unborn | Doyle, got same hw as mac :) just standard dell... |
| 15:41.34 | Doyle | :P |
| 15:41.42 | abrotman | optraz: clonezilla perhaps |
| 15:42.08 | optraz | abrotman: any linux clone tool? |
| 15:42.34 | optraz | abrotman: does disk brand/model different matter? capacity will still be the same, that is 500GB though. |
| 15:42.51 | Doyle | thanks guys |
| 15:42.56 | Doyle | much appreciated |
| 15:43.02 | Doyle | enjoy your weekends |
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| 15:43.34 | optraz | okay, clonezilla available in debian |
| 15:43.38 | unborn | optraz, in general it should work on any machine.. important thing is architecture.. I guess.. make sure that your new machine is same.. (64bit or 32bit..) and it should work.. |
| 15:43.58 | Brigo | optraz, dcfldd |
| 15:43.59 | unborn | optraz, clonezilla is stand alone life linux distro.. |
| 15:44.03 | optraz | unborn: as i mentioned, just broken disk is replace, everything else is the same |
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| 15:44.16 | AlexLikeRock | hi brigo 8/ |
| 15:44.24 | optraz | Brigo: unborn install clonezilla |
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| 15:44.26 | Brigo | hi, AlexLikeRock |
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| 15:44.40 | unborn | optraz, then it will works.. however I would manually copy the old /home to newly fresh install |
| 15:44.52 | unborn | you will avoid copying corrupted files |
| 15:45.20 | optraz | unborn: too much hassle |
| 15:45.28 | optraz | any docs on how to do it with clonezilla? |
| 15:46.13 | unborn | optraz, what? pressing ctrl+a and then ctrl+v? well then.. use clone zilla.. its very simple and straight forward.. you dont even need manual |
| 15:46.33 | optraz | ok |
| 15:46.36 | optraz | thanks bro |
| 15:47.11 | unborn | optraz, one more thing! |
| 15:47.14 | optraz | ya? |
| 15:47.22 | unborn | with clonezilla you will need same size hdd or bigger |
| 15:47.32 | unborn | otherwise you will not be able to clone |
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| 15:48.24 | optraz | unborn: i mentioned just now, it is going to be the same, 500GB. just brand/model different. |
| 15:48.30 | optraz | unborn: will that be a problem? |
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| 15:48.53 | AlexLikeRock | Doyle, take a look https://h-node.org/hardware/catalogue/en |
| 15:49.16 | optraz | unborn: current model TOSHIBA MK5065GSXN , going to change to hitachi 500GB |
| 15:49.16 | AlexLikeRock | they are hardware to free software ;-) |
| 15:49.25 | unborn | optraz, sorry didnt seen this post.. nah it can be anything but size must be same or bigger.. thats all |
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| 15:49.33 | Doyle | Nice, thanks AlexLikeRock |
| 15:50.25 | optraz | unborn: okay, clear. |
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| 15:50.44 | unborn | optraz, have a fun |
| 15:50.57 | optraz | unborn: no it is not |
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| 15:52.58 | unborn | optraz, im sorry but for me working on machines I mean computers is fun, what ever it is, solving the issues or coding sites.. I had issue like you but in end of the day, no one is going to die so, think positively and go ahead to move your data to your new hdd :) |
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| 15:53.49 | Doyle | Found one! Uses the AR9271 chipset. http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1048_1053&item_id=034282 |
| 15:54.01 | optraz | unborn: it's gonna cost a few hundred to get a disk... + tax.. and then i need to do extra work on sunday...aint funny :( |
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| 15:54.17 | optraz | unborn: http://www.clonezilla.org/downloads/download.php?branch=stable downloading now |
| 15:54.41 | unborn | optraz, 500gib hdd? my sshd in that size costed £140 eh |
| 15:54.58 | optraz | ssd here cost A BOMB |
| 15:55.07 | optraz | unborn: will still using spinning disk |
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| 15:55.34 | unborn | optraz, as dev and IT I can suggest to you to have always spare machine and few spare hdds somewhere in home, you never know when it comes handy for you or your clients |
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| 15:56.13 | optraz | unborn: that's true... moment ago, spill water on my mouse, now theat the left click dont work anymore and this disk is going to die.. i guess tomorrow had to cancel java leaerning and go hardware shopping |
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| 15:56.50 | unborn | optraz, I have no idea where are you coming from but spinning disks are not bad.. things like mouse are easy, just dry them and it will work lol |
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| 15:57.42 | optraz | unborn: well yea, we have PLENTIES of sun all year round.. i put the mouse under the sun tomorrow |
| 15:57.49 | unborn | optraz, plus standard hdd like 1tb costs less then £60.. anyway I guess your issue is sorted for now on :) |
| 15:57.53 | optraz | joke, real mouse will die instantly ;) |
| 15:58.17 | shomon | hi, on this box I have tor, thunderbird and firefox. when I run all 3, and also when I quit one, the whole thing fills with script errors |
| 15:58.45 | shomon | is there something I can change or tweak so as not to have these errors? they are the ones to warn its taking too long |
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| 16:00.29 | unborn | optraz, same in UK (suddenly eh) and the original country (not the UK). Good luck.. I am sorry but have to finish some documentation for my client |
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| 16:06.48 | Akuw | hi, how can install firmwares once debian is installed, not during install |
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| 16:07.29 | unborn | Akuw, hi, sudo apt-get install #nameofthefirmware |
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| 16:08.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Akuw about non-free |
| 16:08.28 | Akuw | from firmware cd ? |
| 16:08.39 | unborn | Akuw, or from source packages - you will have to compile that.. (info file how to do it is in each packages of firmware files you downloaded) |
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| 16:09.29 | unborn | Akuw, same for downloaded sw or on dvd/cd |
| 16:09.41 | unborn | there is no difference |
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| 16:16.48 | Akuw | how can activate wifi, because this laptop have a cuntion key that doesn't work |
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| 16:18.45 | Akuw | <Akuw> how can activate wifi, because this laptop have a funtion key that doesn't work |
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| 16:23.25 | ekleog | Hello! Just noticed something forgotten in the wiki: on page https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN ; the line "# cp -R /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/* easy-rsa/" is also working for squeeze (and perhaps below, don't know) |
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| 16:47.37 | A1BaTrOs | hey |
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| 16:48.13 | A1BaTrOs | is there a way to control the fans on the machine with debian? |
| 16:48.59 | AlexLikeRock | fans ?? |
| 16:49.11 | AlexLikeRock | about .... |
| 16:49.17 | AlexLikeRock | A1BaTrOs, |
| 16:49.54 | shingouz | A1BaTrOs: fancontrol |
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| 16:50.05 | AlexLikeRock | oh |
| 16:50.10 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
| 16:50.18 | AlexLikeRock | tinking... |
| 16:50.18 | shingouz | logical, huh? |
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| 16:52.16 | A1BaTrOs | yeah fan control |
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| 16:52.27 | artej | hi |
| 16:52.41 | artej | is there a way to purge everything kde? |
| 16:52.45 | artej | to do full reinstall |
| 16:52.51 | A1BaTrOs | i've got an hp proliant dl360 which i want to boost the cooling a bit with the fans |
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| 16:53.41 | Akuw | how can activate wifi, because this laptop have a cuntion key that doesn't work |
| 16:54.01 | AlexLikeRock | A1BaTrOs, install the lm-sensors Install lm-sensors and fancontrol Install fancontrol |
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| 16:54.31 | AlexLikeRock | take a look http://askubuntu.com/questions/22108/how-to-control-fan-speed |
| 16:54.32 | AlexLikeRock | A1BaTrOs, |
| 16:54.36 | AlexLikeRock | bye |
| 16:54.42 | A1BaTrOs | ok |
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| 16:57.15 | shingouz | artej: /msg dpkg remove kde |
| 16:57.51 | SynrG | A1BaTrOs: see also the 'fancontrol' package, a part of lmsensors. |
| 16:58.12 | SynrG | oh. that was mentioned already |
| 16:58.17 | SynrG | just saw it :) |
| 16:58.20 | A1BaTrOs | well didn't find any sensors :))) |
| 16:58.33 | SynrG | autodetection doesn't always work |
| 16:58.46 | SynrG | you may have to look up an appropriate configuration for your system |
| 16:58.55 | A1BaTrOs | yeah, that must be why the pwmconfig doesn't ether |
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| 16:59.20 | Akuw | rfkill list show hard-bocked: on |
| 16:59.27 | Akuw | how can i unblock ? |
| 16:59.38 | SynrG | toggle the wifi key |
| 16:59.57 | SynrG | oh. you said that doesn't work |
| 17:00.02 | SynrG | go into the BIOS settings |
| 17:00.05 | SynrG | find wifi, enable it |
| 17:00.23 | A1BaTrOs | how is thinkfan any different than this fancontrol? |
| 17:00.32 | Akuw | yes,let me check, but i think there is no such option in bios |
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| 17:01.45 | Akuw | no option to wifi |
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| 17:05.02 | Akuw | any option? |
| 17:05.16 | shingouz | Akuw: check what man pccardctl spits out. i seem to remember that one of the laptops i have had the misfortune to work on had about the same problem as yours. it was accessible with pccardctl (somehow...) |
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| 17:07.41 | p4trix | Hi. I just installed debian to have a nice OS for developping. Im kinda new. What is a good spot for installing my programs? |
| 17:07.52 | p4trix | Like PHPStorm for example. Where would you put it? |
| 17:07.59 | p4trix | (Text editor) |
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| 17:09.01 | SynrG | A1BaTrOs: probably fancontrol was from the very outset generalized and thinkfan has a hardware-specific heritage? just a guess based on package descriptions. |
| 17:09.12 | unborn | p4trix, what you need to install? (im web dev) |
| 17:09.31 | p4trix | PHPStorm comes as a tarball |
| 17:09.32 | Akuw | shingouz: ok |
| 17:09.42 | p4trix | Where is a nice place to put it? |
| 17:09.47 | p4trix | unborn |
| 17:10.13 | unborn | p4trix, okay okay.. and apache and other stuff you dont need it? |
| 17:10.23 | p4trix | Im installing vagrant |
| 17:10.26 | p4trix | and virtualbox |
| 17:10.32 | shingouz | p4trix: be smart, install only what debian has already. lot less hassle |
| 17:10.52 | unborn | - heh thanks p4trix but I asked something else.. |
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| 17:11.21 | p4trix | I dont need that, since im installing apache and all that at the local machine inside vagrant |
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| 17:11.59 | p4trix | I only need to "place" the IDE somewhere. And I was wondering what would be a nice place to put programs in debian |
| 17:11.59 | unborn | p4trix, sure, open the tarball - there is an file which will tell you how to install it. cheers |
| 17:12.05 | Akuw | shingouz: how can i install that command |
| 17:12.11 | p4trix | In windows its like c:/workspace |
| 17:12.20 | Akuw | shingouz: is not in my linux debian 7 |
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| 17:13.06 | p4trix | unborn, installing it is not the problem. Im not well aware of the filestructure of linux. So I was wondering what would be a good place to put my programs :) |
| 17:13.47 | p4trix | In windows its c:/program files |
| 17:14.01 | p4trix | and in debian? where do you locate your programs? |
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| 17:14.10 | p4trix | whats best practice here? |
| 17:14.15 | abrotman | p4trix: /opt/ or /usr/local/ .. see the FHS |
| 17:14.31 | p4trix | thank you abrotman |
| 17:14.40 | p4trix | checks out the FHS |
| 17:14.49 | unborn | p4trix, you asked different question before - you should be solid sure what you need and want.. well I use command line to run programs so if you want some icon with things - I cannot help heh I am afraid. |
| 17:15.05 | abrotman | dpkg: tell p4trix about fhs |
| 17:15.20 | abrotman | unborn: no, he asked the same question |
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| 17:15.45 | shingouz | Akuw: it is in pcmciautils |
| 17:16.22 | Akuw | installin, thanks |
| 17:16.25 | Akuw | let me test |
| 17:16.53 | p4trix | Its not like im a total noob though. Im just not well rounded with linux "yet" ;) |
| 17:17.00 | p4trix | I dont need flashy icons xD |
| 17:17.47 | p4trix | unborn, you run the programs like: "program &"? |
| 17:17.58 | p4trix | Or you block the console? |
| 17:18.03 | Akuw | shingouz: no output when use with any option |
| 17:18.36 | unborn | p4trix, I do |
| 17:18.38 | shingouz | Akuw: as root? it *should* spit out something |
| 17:18.49 | Akuw | yes |
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| 17:20.29 | shingouz | Akuw: it is a very long time since i had the problem, and i cannot check the computer in question, it is not mine... could be it was some other utility that i used. let me see if i can get google to spit out the solution. hang on |
| 17:20.45 | p4trix | Thanks, I think /usr is a nice place to locate the IDE |
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| 17:21.26 | abrotman | I think you mean /usr/local/ |
| 17:21.36 | p4trix | Yes sorry |
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| 17:24.20 | shingouz | Akuw: ahhah! i think i found it. rfkill and the "wireless killswitch management daemon" urfkill. install and try rfkill, if it works, you might want to get the daemon |
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| 17:25.06 | AvatarA | I usually keep portable graphical applications in my home directory |
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| 17:31.10 | Akuw | ok |
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| 17:34.43 | andril | hello |
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| 17:35.43 | andril | i need help making a program autostart - n00b here |
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| 17:45.56 | SynrG | andril: autostart at reboot or at login? those are two different things with different solutions. what's the program? |
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| 18:14.02 | andril | SynrG, sorry for the delay i need to get conky to autostart |
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| 19:00.21 | Phyks | hi, I am trying to find the fail2ban.service systemd unit on a debian stable, but could not find it |
| 19:00.24 | Phyks | do you have any idea? |
| 19:01.42 | SuperTramp83 | andril: what is your DE? |
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| 20:10.05 | cjen129 | i created a new user but i think they must be missing from soem group because i can't mount an encrypted usb drive |
| 20:10.26 | cjen129 | i decrypt it and it ends up in /media but the file manager can't enter into it |
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| 20:10.56 | fennesz | Guys is there a way I can view what gpu is active on optimus laptops? |
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| 20:16.35 | factor | How can I look in a cab file form windows to nab the drivers for ndis? |
| 20:16.49 | cjen129 | what are the default groups in a debian instal? |
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| 20:38.49 | abrotman | ynix: stay with 3.14 |
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| 21:21.35 | factor | How can I get bcm43142bc to work, can I just get the ndis drivers and get it over with. |
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| 21:22.02 | factor | Would be nice to just grab the inf and sys files. |
| 21:22.36 | eb0t | hey does anyone know if i install openvpn seerver on one of my machines |
| 21:22.45 | eb0t | will i be able to test it with another machine on the same subnet |
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| 21:38.51 | Seeq | I'm running Jessie and i went to do an update today and it tells me I have two held back packages. I try to install/remove them with aptitude and both installing and removing them want to delete half my packages. Using apt-get tells me that those two packages are missing dependencies that are also uninstallable. Is this a bug with Debian that I should report, or is it a problem on my end? |
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| 21:44.59 | abrotman | Seeq: show us in paste.debian.net |
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| 21:50.16 | p4trix | Im a web developper. Where would you put your worlspace folder? /home/me/workspace? |
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| 21:50.33 | p4trix | workspace* |
| 21:50.40 | Seeq | Should I show all the packages that aptitude wants to remove/change, or should i cut the 300 or so lines out? |
| 21:51.34 | abrotman | Seeq: all o fit |
| 21:51.56 | digdilem | p4trix, a dir off /home/username is okay, but if you want to run the stuff directly, /var/www (or /var/www/html ) is the default for apache. |
| 21:52.13 | abrotman | (or change the DocumentRoot for apache, like a sane person) |
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| 21:52.35 | p4trix | Thx guys. Sorry for making this noob questions :) |
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| 21:54.23 | Seeq | http://paste.debian.net/281429/ |
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| 21:55.35 | KM0201 | damn...lol |
| 21:55.56 | hassoon | KM0201: what happened |
| 21:56.06 | KM0201 | hassoon: nothing |
| 21:56.11 | abrotman | ugh |
| 21:56.15 | KM0201 | was just reading Seeq's pastebin |
| 21:56.22 | hassoon | 'key. |
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| 21:57.32 | abrotman | Seeq: do you have those packages on hold somehow? |
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| 21:58.27 | Seeq | It put them on hold automatically, I guess. I've never put a package on hold by my own hand. |
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| 21:58.44 | abrotman | what if you just remove them? |
| 21:59.10 | Seeq | It does the same thing as trying to install them does, remove around 300 packages |
| 21:59.29 | abrotman | Seeq: pastebin 'apt-cache policy' |
| 22:00.28 | Seeq | http://paste.debian.net/281430/ |
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| 22:02.36 | lkz0ne | how I remove this folder ? ? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? dlink |
| 22:02.50 | KM0201 | to remove a directory? |
| 22:02.56 | lkz0ne | yes |
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| 22:03.02 | KM0201 | (and everything inside of it)... rm -R /path/to/folder |
| 22:03.07 | lkz0ne | not work |
| 22:03.16 | lkz0ne | in ls -las |
| 22:03.19 | KM0201 | whats the error you get ? |
| 22:03.22 | lkz0ne | this directory returns ? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? dlink |
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| 22:03.48 | lkz0ne | impossible access dlin |
| 22:03.51 | abrotman | the filesystem seems corrupted |
| 22:03.52 | lkz0ne | impossible access dlink* |
| 22:03.58 | welpo | Try using single quotes around the directory name? |
| 22:04.03 | lkz0ne | ok |
| 22:04.11 | welpo | rm -rf '? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? dlink' |
| 22:04.16 | abrotman | Seeq: apt-cache policy pkg1 pkg2 |
| 22:04.36 | lkz0ne | look |
| 22:04.37 | lkz0ne | 0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 6 Jan 2 2015 cdrom -> cdrom0 |
| 22:04.37 | lkz0ne | 4 drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jan 2 2015 cdrom0 |
| 22:04.38 | lkz0ne | ? d????????? ? ? ? ? ? dlink |
| 22:04.38 | *** kick/#debian [lkz0ne!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 22:04.40 | welpo | rip |
| 22:04.47 | KM0201 | lol |
| 22:04.53 | KM0201 | you had to know that was coming |
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| 22:05.00 | lkz0ne | sorry |
| 22:05.03 | abrotman | !enter |
| 22:05.03 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 22:05.03 | lkz0ne | i got banned |
| 22:05.15 | KM0201 | lkz0ne: use a pastebin |
| 22:05.16 | KM0201 | !pastebin |
| 22:05.17 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 22:05.29 | lkz0ne | ok |
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| 22:06.34 | lkz0ne | http://paste.debian.net/281431/ |
| 22:06.36 | Seeq | http://paste.debian.net/281432/ |
| 22:06.37 | lkz0ne | anyone look this please |
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| 22:07.05 | KM0201 | lkz0ne: looks like a corrupted filesystem or something |
| 22:07.09 | KM0201 | i think someone said that a minute ag |
| 22:07.23 | lkz0ne | ;X |
| 22:07.46 | lkz0ne | i used nfspy /media/dlink -o server=192.168.0.36:2049 |
| 22:07.50 | abrotman | Seeq: you're going to have to ignore those held packages, or reomve the sources for tox.chat |
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| 22:08.40 | Seeq | Yeah I saw that it was from tox,chat. That means they're held because Tox is using them, not because Debian is right? |
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| 22:08.57 | abrotman | Right |
| 22:09.03 | dvgo | hi. i am on a relatively new install of testing, installed gpg and gpa, and in the pubring.kbx file in ~/.gnupg/ are 15 x509 keys, all expired. anyone knows how they got there? is that the case on your systems too (i find the presence of those certificates slightly suspicous)? which debian package put them there if it is intended? as far as i understand x509 used for ssl, but why are expired certificates put in a gnu |
| 22:09.05 | dvgo | pg folder? |
| 22:09.34 | Seeq | Alright, thanks for the help. Should be a lot easier to fix these problems on my own in the future now that I know what to do. |
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| 22:13.52 | openfwwf-jessie | is there a newbie friendly guide for installing OpenFWWF on jessie? |
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| 22:16.24 | telmac | http://i.imgur.com/x43DH2j.png ????? |
| 22:16.28 | lkz0ne | shit ... this folder clunged in my hd ... anyone knows how to i detach it ? http://paste.debian.net/281431 |
| 22:17.16 | openfwwf-jessie | can anyone help me? |
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| 22:17.54 | dvgo | lkzOne: have you tried setting the executable permission with chmod +x ? i think that sometimes has something to do with this problem. |
| 22:18.58 | lkz0ne | yes ... don't work |
| 22:19.03 | lkz0ne | dvgo |
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| 22:20.34 | lkz0ne | i'll reboot my pc .. something this fixes |
| 22:20.39 | lkz0ne | sometimes* |
| 22:21.40 | dvgo | lkzOne: ok. keeping my fingers crossed. |
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| 22:22.36 | telmac | is mozilla using some crazy magic on their binaries |
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| 22:26.12 | TJ- | telmac: is the file-system "noexec" ? |
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| 22:26.22 | dvgo | so can anyone at least confirm that their ~/.gnupg/pubring.kbx is also not empty? i would like to at least be able to rule out that my system is compromised in some way. |
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| 22:28.44 | telmac | TJ-: I do not know what that means |
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| 22:29.40 | TJ- | telmac: if the /home/ file-system is mounted with the option "noexec" it prevents files being executed from it |
| 22:30.00 | TJ- | telmac: check with "mount" |
| 22:30.03 | telmac | not to my knowledge |
| 22:30.09 | tlund | are there chromium 44 packages available somewhere? |
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| 22:30.25 | telmac | TJ-: no |
| 22:31.35 | somiaj | ,v chromium |
| 22:31.36 | judd | Package: chromium on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.9.14.1-2; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; jessie: 43.0.2357.65-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 43.0.2357.65-1~deb8u1; sid: 43.0.2357.130-1; stretch: 43.0.2357.130-1 |
| 22:31.43 | somiaj | tlund: note yet. |
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| 22:32.04 | TJ- | telmac: have you tried "hash -r" ? |
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| 22:32.57 | lkz0ne | solved the problem ... i only restarted the system |
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| 22:33.22 | telmac | no, I just ran it on the executable and it did nothing |
| 22:33.34 | dvgo | TJ: is it possible you meant "bash -r"? |
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| 22:36.07 | TJ- | dvgo: definitely not :) |
| 22:37.22 | TJ- | telmac: "hash -r" clears the shell's hash-table of known executables, which can be a common cause of your issue. After using that command you may be able to start "./thunderbird" |
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| 22:37.32 | dvgo | TJ: ok, then i am interested, what does "hash -r" do? the man page wasn't helpful in understanding that... |
| 22:37.50 | dvgo | TJ: ah, thanks for the explainaition :) |
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| 22:38.21 | TJ- | dvgo: It's a bash thing mainly; try "hash -l" |
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| 22:40.25 | TJ- | dvgo: the idea of the hash table is to avoid expensive time-consuming $PATH searches when the executable is already known |
| 22:40.37 | telmac | TJ-: okay, ran it again and tried to ./ thunderbird again and got nothing |
| 22:41.05 | TJ- | telmac: OK, so it wasn't a hash issue, and you say there's no "noexec" option on the mount point |
| 22:41.32 | TJ- | telmac: the other, rarer, cause is if the architecture of the exectuable doesn't match the host |
| 22:41.43 | abrotman | telmac: have you done a filesystem check? |
| 22:42.42 | telmac | I mean it claims the file doesn't exist |
| 22:42.45 | TJ- | telmac: what does "file thunderbird thunderbird-bin" report? |
| 22:42.48 | telmac | which doesn't make any sense |
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| 22:43.32 | telmac | http://pastebin.com/kuM8muGy |
| 22:43.59 | telmac | which is odd because I downloaded the x86_64 binary |
| 22:44.13 | telmac | or, apparently I didn;t |
| 22:44.15 | telmac | ... |
| 22:44.24 | TJ- | telmac: So you've got an amd64 host without foreign i386 multilib support? |
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| 22:44.57 | abrotman | telmac: have you done a filesystem check? |
| 22:45.17 | telmac | abrotman: I don't know what that is, so no |
| 22:45.48 | abrotman | telmac: can the system be rebooted? |
| 22:46.08 | telmac | I did so just a few minutes ago |
| 22:46.14 | abrotman | telmac: shutdown -rF now |
| 22:46.20 | telmac | and it was doing it before |
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| 22:47.02 | telmac | okay so I apparently downloaded the wrong binary |
| 22:47.05 | TJ- | telmac: what does "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" report? |
| 22:47.15 | telmac | but, shouldnt i686 binaries run on here |
| 22:47.53 | telmac | TJ-: nothing |
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| 22:48.13 | abrotman | telmac: do the filesystem check |
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| 22:48.19 | TJ- | telmac: Right, so there's no i386 support which explains it. The program loader doesn't recognise/know how to load an ELF 32-bit executable |
| 22:48.22 | telmac | anyway the x86_64 binaries work |
| 22:48.29 | telmac | so |
| 22:48.42 | telmac | but that's a really weird message to give, isn't it? |
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| 22:49.29 | _ssl | Hi, what is the name of the font from the jessy lockscreen clock? |
| 22:49.37 | TJ- | telmac: it's correct :) the shell couldn't find a a valid executable on that path |
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| 22:52.13 | ubuntumate | hi, hope you can help me. when i start prog on terminal a lot of text is shown then |
| 22:52.28 | ubuntumate | what is the option to skip the text? |
| 22:52.40 | dvs | > /dev/null ? |
| 22:52.43 | ubuntumate | mumble -skipthetext |
| 22:53.12 | valdyn | ubuntumate: mumble 2>&1 > /dev/null |
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| 22:53.26 | dvs | ubuntumate: You don't want to see any text from the program? |
| 22:53.45 | ubuntumate | i want no text then in the terminal |
| 22:53.54 | ubuntumate | there is a option for |
| 22:54.19 | dvs | ubuntumate: Some programs have a "-q" option but that's very program dependent. |
| 22:54.24 | ubuntumate | so that i can use that terminal for other things |
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| 22:54.52 | dvs | ubuntumate: learn screen |
| 22:55.03 | valdyn | ubuntumate: this is bad, use a launcher of some kind |
| 22:55.09 | TJ- | ubuntumate: That's not possible, until the process exits or it is put into the background |
| 22:56.04 | ubuntumate | i saw that it is possible |
| 22:56.11 | valdyn | ubuntumate: running mumble from a terminal could be done like: "nohup mumble" |
| 22:56.22 | valdyn | ubuntumate: of course its possible, but its tedious |
| 22:56.47 | valdyn | ubuntumate: or maybe even "nohup mumble 2>&1 > /dev/null" |
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| 22:57.14 | dvs | you get no output but the terminal will still be occupied. |
| 22:57.38 | ubuntumate | dvs sure |
| 22:57.45 | TJ- | ubuntumate: mumble usually installs a desktop file to "/usr/share/applications/mumble.desktop" so your GUI should be able to start it |
| 22:57.48 | ubuntumate | i want no output |
| 22:58.39 | _ssl | ubuntumate use $ progname & |
| 22:58.47 | valdyn | ubuntumate: or maybe even "nohup mumble 2>&1 > /dev/null &" |
| 22:59.01 | ubuntumate | okay thank you a lot |
| 22:59.04 | _ssl | anyone knows what is the name of the font from the jessy lockscreen clock? |
| 22:59.13 | valdyn | thats seriously alot to type, use a launcher |
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| 23:01.39 | ubuntumate | where can i put the skin files for mumble? |
| 23:01.46 | ubuntumate | it has a folder? |
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| 23:02.39 | abrotman | ubuntumate: ask #mumble |
| 23:03.13 | ubuntumate | ok |
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| 23:40.22 | selkvodka | help |
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| 23:40.59 | selkvodka | what could be a cause of |
| 23:41.02 | selkvodka | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:41.34 | selkvodka | just a little |
| 23:41.45 | selkvodka | then bam |
| 23:42.01 | selkvodka | HELP |
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| 23:42.54 | selkvodka | my laptop is everex |
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| 23:43.33 | selkvodka | sometimes i can't boot the laptop |
| 23:44.24 | selkvodka | then have to change the position of the lid to boot |
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| 23:44.55 | selkvodka | what could be the cause |
| 23:45.45 | mtn_ | selkvodka, sever hardware problems. pinched wires? broken case? etc. etc. |
| 23:46.13 | selkvodka | mtn_, thx |
| 23:47.08 | selkvodka | how to check |
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| 23:47.19 | selkvodka | unscrew everything |
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| 23:49.27 | selkvodka | another question how to upgrade debian server from wheezy to jessie ? |
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| 23:50.44 | mtn_ | selkvodka, the debian website has info on that |
| 23:51.15 | KM0201 | selkvodka: just make sure your server is up to date w/ wheezy, then follow the instructions |
| 23:52.18 | selkvodka | i tried with apt-get dist-upgrade after jessie came out |
| 23:52.34 | KM0201 | selkvodka: you have to adjust your sources list |
| 23:53.02 | selkvodka | KM0201, how |
| 23:53.06 | KM0201 | selkvodka: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading |
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| 23:54.39 | KM0201 | selkvodka: ths one is a little less reading if you just want the quick and dirty... http://linuxconfig.org/how-to-upgrade-debian-linux-system-from-wheezy-to-jessie-stable-release |
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| 23:56.33 | selkvodka | thx KM0201 |
| 23:56.41 | KM0201 | if it were me, once the ugprade was done, i'd either delete or comment out the wheezy repos. |
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| 23:56.56 | selkvodka | ok thx |
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| 23:57.01 | StevenDale | Hiya |
| 23:57.02 | KM0201 | but until OMV catches up w/ jessie, i'm sticking w/ Wheezy |
| 23:57.05 | StevenDale | I need some help |
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| 23:57.27 | KM0201 | StevenDale: well, we're not mindreaders |
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| 23:57.33 | StevenDale | Does the debian amd64 image support booting from 64 bit tablets with 32-bit UEFI? |
| 23:58.03 | KM0201 | man, never heard that one |
| 23:58.14 | KM0201 | why would a 64bit OS, have a 32bit UEFI? |
| 23:58.29 | StevenDale | It came with 32-bit windows |
| 23:58.39 | StevenDale | it's got a quad-core 64-bit intel atom |
| 23:58.44 | StevenDale | and 32-bit uefi |
| 23:59.04 | telmac | how does that even happen |
| 23:59.08 | baum | erm question: debian-testing seems to have energy-saving options enabled by default (the screen goes black while being idle), how could i change that? (or does this have todo with the X11 server) ? |
| 23:59.16 | StevenDale | cheap $69 tablet from food shop |
| 23:59.17 | KM0201 | telmac: i'm asking myself the same question |
| 23:59.36 | StevenDale | 1 gig of ram, 16 gig of flash, wifi, bluetooth |
| 23:59.38 | telmac | StevenDale: I mean they get nothing extra for it |
