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| 12:11.21 | seoner | hi |
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| 12:11.29 | seoner | how do i disable root ssh? |
| 12:11.31 | seoner | so you only could get root by ssh to user admin, and then do "sudo su" |
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| 12:12.10 | Niteye | edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config and set PermitRootLogin to "no" |
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| 12:13.14 | Niteye | or add "AllowUsers admin", that way, only user admin will be able to log in through ssh |
| 12:13.21 | inrdt | ¨aptitude search ~dfoo¨ tells the installation status of packages also; is there a way to make apt-cache do this also, since ¨apt-cache search foo" does not? |
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| 12:20.26 | cap3lla | I'd like to have icons displayed in the beginning of the lines within the context-menu as shown here http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/02/13/add-your-document-templates-to-gnome/ how can I do that in Jessie+gnome3+gdm ? |
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| 12:29.09 | seoner | what is different between LANGUAGE= and LANG=? |
| 12:30.01 | seoner | is not that the same thing? |
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| 12:32.08 | Filystyn | i need to install sqlite3 but it's not in repository |
| 12:32.10 | Filystyn | halp me ;-) |
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| 12:33.09 | equa | Filystyn: are you on jessie stable? |
| 12:33.12 | bilakos10 | Filystyn, what distro are you on? |
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| 12:35.07 | bababooo | I installed jessie in a computer Lenovo H50 with windows 8.1. It has UEFI and although installation went fine and GRUB was installed, debian doesn't show up after restart, it boots to windows |
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| 12:35.49 | hexnewbie | bababooo: Did you install grub-efi? |
| 12:36.30 | Nindustries | Hi guys, so I have a luks encrypted partition on a drive. I would like to expand this using another drive. Could someone describe the steps for me? I executed the following commands to set it up; http://pastie.org/10300833 |
| 12:36.30 | bababooo | hexagoxel, what got installed was called biosgrub |
| 12:37.44 | hexnewbie | bababooo: Would that be grub-pc? apt knows not of biosgrub... Anyway, you might need to work with your BIOS (e.g. force it into legacy mode or something) to see the grub-pc |
| 12:37.51 | hexnewbie | bababooo: Or switch to grub-efi |
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| 12:39.35 | bababooo | before installation I disabled secure boot and chose |
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| 12:39.46 | seoner | bash: bitcoin-cli: command not found |
| 12:40.17 | hexnewbie | bababooo: That's not directly related to secure boot (neither grub-pc nor grub-efi would work with secure boot) |
| 12:40.29 | hexnewbie | Unless you signed grub-efi or something |
| 12:41.19 | Filystyn | ok im here |
| 12:41.25 | Filystyn | im using wheezy |
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| 12:42.09 | hexnewbie | Filystyn: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/sqlite3 |
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| 12:43.20 | bababooo | hexnewbie, , I enabled CSM and chose auto boot mode with legacy as priority boot before installation. How do I switch to grub-efi? |
| 12:43.29 | Filystyn | worked |
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| 12:44.37 | hexnewbie | bababooo: Do you see your hard drive (grub) in the firmware boot menu? |
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| 12:48.04 | Nindustries | Can I expand a ext4 partition with another drive? |
| 12:48.46 | sh00p | not sure, sounds like you want raid |
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| 12:49.54 | bababooo | hexnewbie, I can only see debian in when I disable CSM and when I go into debian I havegrub rescue>_ |
| 12:49.56 | Nindustries | hmm. |
| 12:50.02 | Nindustries | fuck, I just got the 2TB filled. |
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| 12:50.36 | hexnewbie | bababooo: That sounds like grub is loading, but not finding its files. Don't know what CSM is though. |
| 12:51.02 | hexnewbie | bababooo: I can't help you further. On my system I was forced to install the grub-efi package - couldn't boot otherwise |
| 12:51.21 | hexnewbie | bababooo: Either way, booting into rescue mode from your netinst CD might help |
| 12:51.33 | dvs | Nindustries: That do you mean by "with another drive?" |
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| 12:52.16 | Nindustries | dvs: Well, expand the partition with the drive. so maek the ext4 partition span over the two drives |
| 12:52.35 | dvs | Nindustries: No, you can't do that. |
| 12:52.35 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: The answer to your question (or rather what you mean by it) is "you could, but you wouldn't" |
| 12:52.50 | dvs | Nindustries: That's called LVM but I wouldn't recommend it. |
| 12:52.51 | Nindustries | argh |
| 12:52.57 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: You really, really don't want to do the one thing that happens to do what you want to |
| 12:53.02 | Nindustries | is fucked |
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| 12:53.55 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: What's your use case? |
| 12:54.49 | Nindustries | Debian VPS where I gather all my data. I used cryptsetup to encrypt my virtual drive and put ext4 on it. The 2TB has been filled and I ordered the next 2TB. I tought they were going to expand my original drive, but apparently not. So now I got 2x 2TB drives |
| 12:55.06 | Nindustries | Maybe I can init a raid on my second drive and copy my data over |
| 12:55.16 | Nindustries | and then add the first to the raid? |
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| 12:55.37 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: Why don't you keep half of your data on one of the drives? (And by use case I meant what kind of data) |
| 12:55.49 | Nindustries | Mostly media |
| 12:56.03 | Nindustries | Not really convenient to go splitting files |
| 12:56.06 | Nindustries | directories * |
| 12:56.21 | hexnewbie | It is more convenient than all your data dying because one of your drives died, though |
| 12:58.23 | Nindustries | The drives are virtual drives, so LUNs. They are redundant on their side |
| 12:58.37 | Nindustries | So just SAN storage |
| 12:59.00 | hexnewbie | They can still die, but probably a linear md array can do the job (haven't ever made one) |
| 12:59.23 | hexnewbie | Alternatively, if you're really hardcore you can create a custom dm device spanning your current partition and your other partition |
| 12:59.36 | hexnewbie | But that can only be started manually and is a PITA |
| 12:59.44 | hexnewbie | And you *will* regret it |
| 13:00.27 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: Do you use LVM? |
| 13:00.41 | Nindustries | Nope, ext4 |
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| 13:01.12 | hexnewbie | So the ext4 is bare on the crypt volume? |
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| 13:01.49 | Nindustries | yup |
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| 13:02.05 | phale | hello, my sound (ALSA) doesn't appear to be outputting anything |
| 13:02.07 | Nindustries | mdadm --create --verbose /dev/md0 --level=linear --raid-devices=1 /dev/vdc --force -> cryptsetup -> ext4 & copy data over & add first drive |
| 13:02.09 | Nindustries | right? |
| 13:02.23 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: So probably your plan to create a linear RAID or LVM on the other drive and then extend it is probably your only option |
| 13:02.46 | Nindustries | yeah, think so |
| 13:03.10 | phale | i have tried both my built-in speakers on my laptop and my headset |
| 13:04.10 | phale | alsamixer shows everything is on max |
| 13:04.19 | cap3lla | I'd like to have icons displayed in the beginning of the lines within the context-menu as shown here http://tombuntu.com/index.php/2008/02/13/add-your-document-templates-to-gnome/ how can I do that in Jessie+gnome3+gdm ? |
| 13:04.36 | BluesKaj | phale, open alsamixer in the terminal and disable automute for starters |
| 13:04.45 | phale | BluesKaj: oh yeah |
| 13:04.46 | Nindustries | Rsyncing as we speak ^^ |
| 13:04.48 | phale | it was muted |
| 13:04.55 | phale | thank you |
| 13:04.59 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: Be wary that the mdadm manpage states that you can't grow a linear (which sounds weird) |
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| 13:05.48 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: But blogs tend to indicate the opposite |
| 13:06.12 | Nindustries | lol |
| 13:06.13 | BluesKaj | phale, it's apita , but the devs decided to leave it on by default after installation |
| 13:06.17 | Nindustries | hexnewbie: that sounds.. strange |
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| 13:06.39 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: I suspect it works fine, I am just mentioning this because I have no experience with linear :) |
| 13:07.01 | hexnewbie | Nindustries: So I decided to check if I am not misleading you, and only got more confused |
| 13:07.12 | Nindustries | heh, I can understand that :P |
| 13:07.26 | jelly | Nindustries: why md raid? Just use lvm and add physical volumes into your volume group as needed. |
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| 13:07.40 | hexnewbie | Yeah, LVM works like a charm for that |
| 13:08.09 | Nindustries | hm |
| 13:08.16 | Nindustries | Because some people here were warning for LVM |
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| 13:08.43 | hexnewbie | Well, some people would also be warning against LINEAR RAID :) |
| 13:08.46 | jelly | some people here are wary about technology newer than 15 years |
| 13:09.29 | jelly | Nindustries: if you can't grow LUNs on the storage side, LVM is a logical choice |
| 13:09.54 | Nindustries | Alright, ill try lvm |
| 13:11.51 | jelly | in that case your stack might be: LUNs <- LVM VG <- single LVM LV <- cryptsetup <- filesystem |
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| 13:12.12 | Nindustries | alright |
| 13:13.42 | bababooo | hexnewbie, can I install grub-efi if I go to grub command line from netist USB ? |
| 13:13.52 | jelly | not sure how well ext4 scales over 16TB, fsck times and required RAM might be a problematic |
| 13:14.38 | jelly | at work we limit our ext4 filesystems to ~500GB to reduce fsck times |
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| 13:15.28 | hexnewbie | XFS requires fsck less often, but when it does, a 4 TB would be unfsckable, and would probably eat all the RAM |
| 13:16.18 | hexnewbie | But it did lead to smaller downtime for smaller volumes... |
| 13:16.19 | jelly | tytso gave a ballfigure of 1GB RAM per TB for ext4 fsck |
| 13:16.32 | jelly | ballpark figure* |
| 13:17.20 | hexnewbie | bababooo: Um, grub command line? You need a shell (e.g. bash) inside your existing installation |
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| 13:18.06 | hexnewbie | bababooo: That being said, I have installed grub-efi once to make my computer bootable, and I am dreading the day the drive with /boot/efi dies and I have to figure out how to do it again |
| 13:18.41 | jelly | and our anecdotal data with a decent 5ms (15krpm) 36 spindles backend say about 1hour fsck time for 400GB. When needed, we parallelize fsck because the backend has enough iops to take it |
| 13:18.46 | hexnewbie | I can't believe you can't make /boot/efi redundant |
| 13:19.18 | hexnewbie | jelly: Is that O(f(size)) or O(f(inodes))? |
| 13:19.49 | hexnewbie | I mean, Nindustries said he's storing media - would the fact that they are mostly large files reduce the time and memory requirements? |
| 13:20.14 | jelly | hexnewbie: a bit of both, but seems to scale with blocks more than inodes |
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| 13:21.47 | jelly | but we don't have mature ext4 filesystems (that have been used for a long time for reads and writes), only ext3 |
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| 13:22.13 | Nindustries | heh, cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/volgroup_media/logicalv_media /mnt/volmedia reports device logicalv_media not found , while a cryptsetup luksFormat works fine on it |
| 13:22.14 | jelly | I guess extents usage would reduce those fsck times |
| 13:23.22 | jelly | Nindustries: don't you find df and mount output to be ugly with such long VG and LV names? |
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| 13:23.46 | Nindustries | I am using other names, but just typed those for clarification here |
| 13:25.58 | Nindustries | oops, nvm |
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| 14:07.44 | ilteris | hi guys, my radeon card is stalling my jessie boot. Is there a way I can disable it in the grub? |
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| 14:09.06 | ilteris | I read some people did sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/radeon-kms.conf and add this line options radeon modeset=0 however this is impossible to do with grub, how should I do this? |
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| 14:12.40 | hexnewbie | ilteris: Add radeon.modeset=0 to the kernel commandline |
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| 14:16.35 | Guest48023 | hi |
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| 14:17.14 | ilteris | hexnewbie you mean when in grub just type that? sorry I am super newbie. |
| 14:17.18 | wheezyPUP | Guest48023 got any photos online ? |
| 14:17.40 | Guest48023 | wheezyPUP: noo, its not my problem |
| 14:17.48 | hexnewbie | ilteris: I don't remember exactly - I think it tells you which key combo to press to edit the command line |
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| 14:18.00 | hexnewbie | ilteris: It *might* be `e' |
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| 14:18.29 | ilteris | hexnewbie oh I see it now |
| 14:18.35 | Guest48023 | I compiled and Installed another kernel on Jessie (last stable kernel), however, now when I start my jessie show a message of low root disk space remaining |
| 14:19.13 | Guest48023 | I installed jessie with all partitions (not everything in a partition) |
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| 14:19.55 | hexnewbie | did you compile the kernel in / ? A compiled kernel (with Debian default options) is bigger than a Debian installation |
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| 14:20.14 | Guest48023 | hexnewbie: yes |
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| 14:20.39 | sh00p | Guest48023, give us a "df -h" |
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| 14:21.38 | Guest48023 | http://pastebin.com/eBxPEf6n |
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| 14:22.49 | sh00p | usr is on your root filesystem |
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| 14:23.11 | sh00p | which i'd say is a bad idea |
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| 14:23.39 | Guest48023 | I need reinstall the debian? |
| 14:23.43 | Guest48023 | :( |
| 14:23.46 | sh00p | no, i'd resize home partition |
| 14:23.50 | sh00p | and create a new one for usr |
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| 14:24.09 | sh00p | resizing is quite trivial with lvm |
| 14:24.23 | sh00p | but it doesn't seem like your using it |
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| 14:24.49 | sh00p | so fire up gparted or something |
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| 14:24.51 | sh00p | and do it from there |
| 14:24.59 | dvs | Guest48023: Or you could shrink the /home partition and grow the / partiion |
| 14:25.09 | sh00p | don't remember how to do this by heart, just google it |
| 14:25.41 | Guest48023 | sh00p: how I could search it on google?, give me a key word |
| 14:25.57 | sh00p | shrink ext3/4 parition |
| 14:26.11 | sh00p | assuming that that is what you use |
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| 14:26.25 | Guest48023 | dvs: I could do that, however, i need move all partitions? |
| 14:26.43 | dvs | Guest48023: Yes, all partitions in between |
| 14:27.00 | Guest48023 | ok, let me google that |
| 14:27.06 | sh00p | home appears to be the last |
| 14:27.15 | sh00p | so shrink it, and create a new one after for usr |
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| 14:27.28 | hexnewbie | I am not sure if you could shrink a partition from the start easily |
| 14:27.31 | Guest48023 | sh00p: How much space for usr? |
| 14:27.40 | sh00p | not sure, 16gb should be plenty |
| 14:27.42 | hexnewbie | resize2fs can't do it, maybe parted could - but even it had limitations on that |
| 14:28.15 | Guest48023 | sh00p: I have a 20 GB partition called "extras" I am not using it |
| 14:28.18 | hexnewbie | Which is LVM is usually preferred, as it saves you such headaches. And so does having more space for / |
| 14:28.28 | Guest48023 | sh00p: I could use this partition? |
| 14:28.33 | sh00p | well Guest48023 lol, yeah use that one |
| 14:28.44 | sh00p | but you need to copy the current usr onto that then |
| 14:28.48 | sh00p | and change in fstabn |
| 14:28.53 | hexnewbie | Like, the kernel source is 2-3 GB, and LaTeX is 4-6 GB or so, so you need a lot for / these days |
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| 14:29.20 | sh00p | i'd do it all from a livecd |
| 14:29.22 | sh00p | to make life easier |
| 14:30.15 | Guest48023 | sh00p: then I dont need create a new partition just use "extras" like "usr". Then 1) Copy all files from usr to extras and 2) ?? |
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| 14:30.31 | sh00p | 2) remove the usr that is on the rootfs |
| 14:30.38 | sh00p | but for gods sake, do this from a livecd |
| 14:31.12 | ilteris | I am really upset about this radeon-debian issue. I hate radeon with my whole heart. |
| 14:31.12 | sh00p | and put in fstab "/dev/sdaX /usr ..." |
| 14:31.47 | Guest48023 | sh00p: ok, let me download debian live cd, thanks |
| 14:32.20 | sh00p | good luck |
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| 14:33.27 | sh00p | if you haven't messed around too much in your system, and there's no information you want to save, reinstalling might not be a bad option |
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| 14:33.34 | sh00p | since it's easier if you're not comfortable |
| 14:33.40 | sh00p | and it takes what, 30 minutes? |
| 14:34.15 | hexnewbie | Or could do it without a live cd, and reinstall if you break it :) |
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| 14:35.17 | sh00p | for sure |
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| 14:36.48 | Guest48023 | sh00p: wel, I compiled and installed another kernel :( |
| 14:37.08 | sh00p | and that's why you ran out of space :) |
| 14:37.14 | Guest48023 | sh00p: I dont know if the last stable kernel and the default jessie kernel change too much |
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| 14:38.04 | Guest48023 | sh00p: I could simply delete 4.1.2 kernel? |
| 14:38.09 | sh00p | yup |
| 14:38.15 | sh00p | but you're gonna run out eventually anyway |
| 14:38.20 | sh00p | delete the source |
| 14:38.35 | Guest48023 | sh00p: I deleted the source, I think so |
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| 14:39.18 | sh00p | "sudo du -csh /usr/ |
| 14:39.20 | sh00p | would be interesting |
| 14:39.32 | sh00p | you dont need sudo there |
| 14:39.46 | sh00p | "du -csh /usr/*" |
| 14:39.48 | sh00p | like so |
| 14:39.52 | Guest48023 | 3.2G/usr/ |
| 14:39.54 | Guest48023 | 3.2Gtotal |
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| 14:40.16 | sh00p | aie, had forgotten the star there |
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| 14:40.47 | Guest48023 | http://pastebin.com/hV8LLXnF |
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| 14:41.11 | sh00p | appears to me that you should be fine for now then, you sure you still get the message? |
| 14:41.54 | Guest48023 | well, let me reboot, I will be right back, ok? |
| 14:41.58 | sh00p | sure |
| 14:42.01 | Guest48023 | thanks |
| 14:42.07 | dvs | hides |
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| 14:44.15 | ilteris | hexnewbie it worked! |
| 14:44.24 | ilteris | I was adding it on a wrong line!! |
| 14:44.31 | hexnewbie | ilteris: I am glad to hear it :) |
| 14:44.48 | dvs | ilteris: How did you add it? |
| 14:45.07 | ilteris | dvs I didn't know I had to add it end of this line linux /boot/vmlinuz-(...) splash quiet radeon.modeset=0 |
| 14:45.08 | ilteris | lol |
| 14:45.30 | dvs | ilteris: Tha's going to go away when I new kernel gets installed |
| 14:45.40 | hexnewbie | ilteris: For next boots, you should probably edit /etc/default/grub and do update-grub |
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| 14:46.16 | ilteris | ok I will make sure to edit grub and add there and update-grub |
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| 14:46.35 | ilteris | I was also wondering if updating to 3.17 kernels would help to resolve this issue |
| 14:46.40 | hexnewbie | I think those go in GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, but I am not completely sure |
| 14:47.22 | ilteris | all my life ati radeons have always brought nothing but pain to my lfie :D |
| 14:47.32 | ilteris | s/lfie/life |
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| 14:47.43 | dvs | Well, DEFAULT only add the stuff to the default image |
| 14:47.47 | hexnewbie | s/ati radeons/video cards/; |
| 14:48.11 | ilteris | hexnewbie :) |
| 14:48.13 | ilteris | thanks gentlemen, let me go and fiddle around more |
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| 14:48.17 | Guest224435 | The volume "Filesystem root" has only 183.5 MB disk space remaining |
| 14:48.28 | Guest224435 | same message |
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| 14:48.50 | sh00p | ok well then Guest224435, do this: "sudo du -csh /" |
| 14:48.56 | sh00p | i think the bottom line is your / has too little space |
| 14:49.01 | hexnewbie | dvs: Don't know about that - I have elevator=deadline there, and it is on all kernels in grub.cfg |
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| 14:49.23 | jelly | sh00p: your du command is missing -x |
| 14:49.31 | hexnewbie | But it is true, ilteris should probably add it to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX so it's also on rescue choices |
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| 14:49.44 | sh00p | what does x do jelly? |
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| 14:50.06 | jelly | sh00p: avoids traversing other mountpoints below the directory argument |
| 14:50.13 | dvs | hexagoxel: Oh? DEFAULT means all default images (non rescue images) |
| 14:50.13 | ilteris | dvs hexnewbie noted, thanks |
| 14:50.22 | Guest224435 | du: cannot access â/run/user/1000/gvfsâ: Permission denied |
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| 14:50.24 | sh00p | "sudo du -cshx /*" |
| 14:50.26 | sh00p | is what we want |
| 14:50.41 | sh00p | always miss these commands from memory |
| 14:50.55 | Guest224435 | sh00p: http://pastebin.com/gzEfaatg |
| 14:51.07 | sh00p | add the star there... and the x |
| 14:51.11 | jelly | /* is silly as well |
| 14:51.22 | sh00p | jelly, i bet, but it works :) |
| 14:51.40 | jelly | it works for directories you don't need |
| 14:51.41 | Guest224435 | sh00p: http://pastebin.com/GppdrTxg |
| 14:51.41 | hexnewbie | dvs: Oh, I got what you meant :) I took default as the one set by "set default= |
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| 14:51.57 | Guest224435 | I dont underestand what work |
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| 14:52.14 | sh00p | your lib directory is huge too Guest224435 |
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| 14:52.48 | Guest224435 | sh00p: I can simply delete that folder? |
| 14:52.51 | sh00p | no! |
| 14:52.56 | Guest224435 | ok ok |
| 14:53.31 | Guest224435 | well, I go to reinstall with everything in the same partition |
| 14:53.34 | sh00p | if I were you, i'd expand your / a tad bit more if you plan to mess around with kernels, and create a new partition for usr |
| 14:53.41 | sh00p | but, you'd be better off reinstalling |
| 14:53.47 | dvs | Guest224435: That's a bad idea too |
| 14:53.57 | Guest224435 | :( |
| 14:54.05 | sh00p | it works just fine for new users |
| 14:54.19 | sh00p | keep it simple |
| 14:54.53 | Guest224435 | dvs: I assinged the free space to create automatically the partitions |
| 14:55.01 | Guest224435 | I dont underestand what happend |
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| 14:55.15 | sh00p | you have two kernels, whose modules sum up to 2.5 gb |
| 14:55.19 | dvs | Guest224435: It made your / partition too small |
| 14:55.36 | jelly | Guest224435: debian-installer has silly defaults and leads you to create a horribly small partition for /, that's what happened |
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| 14:56.05 | Guest224435 | jelly: I see |
| 14:56.28 | dvs | Guest224435: I'd make a separate /home partition for sure |
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| 15:01.58 | arthurfiggis | hello! i had a question regarding dual-booting debian and another os from the same hard drive...i wasn't sure if that would be best asked here or #debian-offtopic? |
| 15:02.13 | jelly | arthurfiggis: here. |
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| 15:03.14 | arthurfiggis | jelly: ahh, i see...thanks, wasn't sure as i suppose it's not expressly a debian support question :) basically i was wondering if anyone had tried dual-booting windows 10 and debian from the same system...right now that's the setup i have (windows for games, debian for...everything not games!), i was wondering if i was at risk of losing that capability by upgrading |
| 15:03.48 | sh00p | windows installer has a tendency to mess up your boot loader |
| 15:03.54 | sh00p | so you might need to reinstall grub afterwards |
| 15:04.07 | sh00p | but grub should find windows automatically |
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| 15:04.12 | sh00p | I haven't tried it myself |
| 15:04.17 | sh00p | so no guarantees :) |
| 15:04.51 | Guest224435 | sh00p: its not windows installer |
| 15:05.07 | Guest224435 | sh00p: It was from a pendrive with debian inside bootable |
| 15:05.13 | sh00p | i was talking to arthurfiggis, Guest224435 |
| 15:05.14 | abrotman | arthurfiggis: upgrading whichpart? |
| 15:05.29 | Guest224435 | sh00p: I am sorry |
| 15:05.38 | sh00p | np |
| 15:06.02 | arthurfiggis | abrotman: oh, upgrading windows 8.1 to 10...which i'm certain would require a grub reinstallation of course :) but i haven't tried any test build of 10 or anything like that, wasn't sure if they would even cooperate with one another on the same HD |
| 15:06.31 | abrotman | arthurfiggis: yeah, it would overwrite the bootloader,eitherkeep a debian cd or supergrub handy |
| 15:06.36 | arthurfiggis | (as i can dual boot windows 8.1 and...well, debian 8.1 now, i likely won't be touching it for a while anyway :) |
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| 15:06.57 | arthurfiggis | abrotman: good idea thanks...i think i have some rewritable dvd's around here somewhere |
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| 15:07.20 | abrotman | I mean .. a USB drive should work? |
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| 15:08.49 | arthurfiggis | abrotman, oh it would yes, the only thumb drive i have around at the moment is a cheap, flaky one i wouldn't trust for it ;) |
| 15:08.59 | abrotman | ok |
| 15:09.12 | arthurfiggis | (but i installed 8.1 from a usb stick originally, that went quite well!) |
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| 15:11.24 | Guest224435 | sh00p: do you know some tool (better than debian installer) to calculate the right size for each partition? |
| 15:11.46 | sh00p | Guest224435, there is no tool as far as I'm aware, only guidelines - and they depend on what you intend to use the system for |
| 15:13.03 | sh00p | I usually put var, usr, home, boot and / on different partitions |
| 15:13.06 | Guest224435 | sh00p: If I delete the 4.1.2 kernel, the problem is fixed forever? or this problem could comeback if I install another software in the future? |
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| 15:13.34 | sh00p | Guest224435, most likely, eventually you are gonna run out of space yes... apt-get installs libraries and binaries in usr |
| 15:13.53 | sh00p | and for every kernel you install, it's gonna put it's drivers in lib |
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| 15:15.09 | corto | #MLO |
| 15:15.24 | Guest224435 | sh00p: I want learn about this problem, i dont want install everything in a partition (new users), could you give me a manual, please. Thanks |
| 15:16.24 | sh00p | here's my tip Guest224435: 1GB boot, 4GB var, 16GB usr, 8GB /, swap is twice your ram and the rest goes to home |
| 15:16.47 | sh00p | somebody might have a better version |
| 15:16.53 | sh00p | be open to suggestions |
| 15:17.00 | sh00p | and DO use lvm |
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| 15:17.27 | sh00p | might wanna expand var a bit |
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| 15:17.29 | abrotman | if you don't know, use 20GB for / and the rest to /home/ |
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| 15:18.57 | Guest224435 | There is considerable benefit in having different partitions ?, speed disk access significantly improves? |
| 15:19.16 | Guest224435 | sh00p: thanks, I have taken note |
| 15:19.20 | abrotman | a separate /home/ allows you to reinstall more easily |
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| 15:20.41 | Guest224435 | abrotman: I have a partition of 500 GB ntfs of my personal documment, I could transform it in my home? |
| 15:20.43 | sh00p | i don't believe there is any improvement in performance |
| 15:21.07 | sh00p | i think the main reason is redundancy |
| 15:21.16 | epsilon | Guest224435: if unsure install in one partition, as suggested by debian-installer |
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| 15:21.17 | sh00p | if one partition breaks, you know which one it is |
| 15:21.34 | sh00p | and can therefore repair/fix/move it |
| 15:21.46 | epsilon | Guest224435: after 2-3 Installs, you figure out yourself what requires how much space |
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| 15:22.46 | epsilon | Guest224435: is that your first attempt on linux? |
| 15:23.10 | Guest224435 | sh00p: this is not a significant benefit, especially if it is a debian installed on my laptop (this is not a server) |
| 15:23.24 | sh00p | then keep it simple |
| 15:23.37 | sh00p | all files on one partition, or all files one partition with separate home |
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| 15:23.50 | abrotman | you can't use NTFS as /home/ AFAIK |
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| 15:23.58 | sh00p | or you stick to a partition layout for science |
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| 15:24.08 | Guest224435 | epsilon: No, I installed debian yesterday 3 times, I also had a problem with EFI (I did not know this mechanism partition table) |
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| 15:25.20 | Guest224435 | sh00p: I have a 500 GB partition ntfs, a backup of my documents in windows, I could use that partition as home? |
| 15:25.25 | epsilon | Guest224435: ok you don't learn it in one day :) Install it in one large partition, if you are new at linux, you will break it anyway by experimenting :) |
| 15:25.30 | sh00p | no, keep ntfs off your system |
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| 15:25.52 | sh00p | you might or might not be able to, but it would be a headache |
| 15:26.24 | epsilon | agree, ntfs is kinda 'alien' for linux. I usualy only mount ntfs stuff in /mnt for temp. use |
| 15:26.25 | Guest224435 | sh00p: It there any benefit if I convert NTFS to ext4?, is a partition of 500 GB 230 GB used?? |
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| 15:27.01 | epsilon | you can't convert a filesystem. Just create new one and copy on it |
| 15:27.03 | sh00p | you cant convert it afaik, but at the moment you already have plenty of space in your home |
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| 15:27.50 | sh00p | mount your ntfs in /media or /mnt, or like epsilon says, copy over the files and remove the ntfs partition |
| 15:28.16 | sh00p | or mount it wherever really, it doesn't really matter |
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| 15:30.26 | Guest224435 | sh00p: I could copy from ntfs to my home and after remove my ntfs partition and resize my home to take the new free space from ntfs |
| 15:30.31 | Guest224435 | my god too information |
| 15:30.52 | sh00p | yes |
| 15:30.53 | Guest224435 | sh00p: well, let me install again the system and I will think what to do after |
| 15:30.54 | sh00p | you could do that |
| 15:31.29 | Guest224435 | good bye 4.1.2 kernel :'(, it was 4 hours yesterday of compiling time |
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| 15:31.47 | epsilon | Guest224435: yes. But watch out, it's pretty advanced. Try plain install on spare disk something and collect experience |
| 15:32.55 | epsilon | Guest224435: everyone needs like a month (or a year) to figure out basics of linux |
| 15:32.57 | Guest224435 | epsilon: Yes, I like that these problems occur because they help me learn me to know of the system work |
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| 15:33.47 | Guest224435 | say "debian is too complicated" is really an attitude of mind that they have no interest in learning |
| 15:34.10 | Guest224435 | For now, all that has happened is of not understanding basic things |
| 15:34.14 | epsilon | no, debian isn't more complicated tha ubuntu tehse days |
| 15:34.34 | Guest224435 | epsilon: the installation is really beautiful |
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| 15:34.40 | sh00p | debian is very imho |
| 15:34.43 | sh00p | everything just works :) |
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| 15:34.57 | sh00p | very easy* |
| 15:35.12 | cdb23ax | hello today i installed a debian jessie vm on xen |
| 15:35.26 | Guest224435 | sh00p: yes IMHO too, its very easy and stable, work perfect, I cant see me using another distribution linux or operative system |
| 15:35.27 | cdb23ax | before i installed a debian wheezy without any problems |
| 15:35.30 | arthurfiggis | sh00p, i haven't been using it for very long myself, but my experience of 8.1 is been that it's essentially just like using ubuntu, save for that everything works properly and as expected :) so far so good |
| 15:35.40 | cdb23ax | on the debian jessie i cant logon as root |
| 15:35.59 | valdyn | !ifrp |
| 15:35.59 | dpkg | For GRUB: 1) press 'e' to edit the kernel setting in the grub command line (add 'init=/bin/sh' to the end of it) 2) 'fsck' your root file system, 3) 'mount -o remount,rw /', 4) 'passwd root' 5) 'mount -o remount,ro /' 6) 'reboot -d -f' (exec /sbin/init should work); For LILO: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at the LILO boot prompt (hold Shift while booting), steps 2-6 are the same; For yaboot: 1) 'Linux init=/bin/sh' at yaboot prompt. |
| 15:36.08 | Guest224435 | arthurfiggis: please, dont compare the non GNU linux Ubuntu with Debian |
| 15:36.09 | valdyn | cdb23ax: ^^ |
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| 15:36.50 | epsilon | Guest224435: dont be afraid to break your system by experimenting. it's only way you learn linux. if you break -> just reinstall |
| 15:36.51 | cdb23ax | i manually edited the /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow i just copied the root line from my wheezy installation |
| 15:36.52 | Guest224435 | arthurfiggis: and yes, I am a fanatic of use only free source |
| 15:36.58 | cdb23ax | then logon was possible |
| 15:37.20 | Guest224435 | epsilon: Yes, I will go to reinstall it, bye |
| 15:37.21 | cdb23ax | what happend here? |
| 15:37.42 | valdyn | cdb23ax: some wrong choice in expert mode or a bug |
| 15:38.02 | cdb23ax | i compared the password string in etc/shadow |
| 15:38.09 | cdb23ax | it was 1:1 the same as in the wheezy system |
| 15:38.17 | cdb23ax | but logon was not possible even with console |
| 15:38.21 | Guest224435 | sh00p: thanks again, I will go to reinstall the system with your recomendation "1GB boot, 4GB var, 16GB usr, 8GB /, swap is twice your ram and the rest goes to home" |
| 15:38.45 | sh00p | np Guest224435, best of luck |
| 15:38.48 | sh00p | dont remember lvm! |
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| 15:38.59 | Guest224435 | lvm? |
| 15:39.17 | sh00p | logical volume manager |
| 15:39.21 | sh00p | makes it easier to resize later |
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| 15:39.31 | sh00p | it's available in the installer as an option |
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| 15:39.38 | sh00p | it's quite intuitive |
| 15:39.42 | sh00p | you'll figure it out |
| 15:39.48 | valdyn | Guest224435: this is bad |
| 15:39.49 | cdb23ax | i mounted the img file and edited the two lines in the files |
| 15:40.09 | Guest224435 | valdyn: what? |
| 15:40.17 | valdyn | Guest224435: your setup is just wrong |
| 15:40.21 | miskatonic | Gnome or KDE swallow gigabytes like nothing |
| 15:40.36 | Guest224435 | valdyn: it was a sh00p recomendation |
| 15:40.48 | sh00p | there might be a better way, that's how i'd set it up |
| 15:40.54 | valdyn | Guest224435: its funny sizes and its a broken officially deprecated to unsupported layout |
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| 15:41.41 | sh00p | i'm all ears valdyn :) |
| 15:41.49 | sh00p | you probably know more about it than me |
| 15:41.53 | valdyn | Guest224435: / could be much smaller, but primary splitting out /usr is bad, so replace your /usr and / with just /, 16G is ok |
| 15:41.56 | Guest224435 | valdyn: Your comment may be a bit disrespectful for sh00p |
| 15:42.07 | sh00p | no I dont mind at all |
| 15:42.19 | sh00p | why not separate partition for usr? |
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| 15:42.51 | valdyn | https://www.google.de/search?q=why+no+seperate+/usr |
| 15:42.56 | valdyn | https://www.google.com/search?q=why+no+seperate+/usr |
| 15:43.03 | equa | Guest224435: keep it simple. just / or / + home . don't separate partition unless you got a reason for it |
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| 15:43.52 | Guest224435 | equa: how much |
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| 15:44.27 | equa | Guest224435: start with 20g for root. use lvm, it comes in handy to resize later if you need more space. |
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| 15:45.38 | The_Photographer | equa: 20 GB for / and remaining space for home? |
| 15:46.01 | valdyn | splitting out /boot used to be almost a requirement, but now grub2 is intelligent enough to read about any kind of filesystem, so that no longer has much use |
| 15:46.03 | equa | The_Photographer: yeah or x amount for home. you dont' need to use all. |
| 15:46.45 | The_Photographer | ok, bye |
| 15:47.05 | The_Photographer | thanks really I appreciate everyone's help |
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| 15:47.33 | The_Photographer | I thought that you would send me to read a manual |
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| 15:47.53 | epsilon | Guest224435: forget RAID (mdadm) or LVM. it's about once you understaood the basics |
| 15:47.54 | The_Photographer | However, you have been very respectful |
| 15:48.03 | equa | The_Photographer: those old manuals are out of date. you dont' need to do them now a days |
| 15:48.12 | The_Photographer | equa: :D |
| 15:48.37 | The_Photographer | sh00p: I will be right back after to reinstall the system |
| 15:48.56 | sh00p | I'm about to play some world of warships |
| 15:49.01 | The_Photographer | thanks valdyn I use / 20 GB |
| 15:49.01 | sh00p | so not sure if i'll be here to help |
| 15:49.10 | sh00p | but i'm confident someone else will |
| 15:49.32 | The_Photographer | sh00p: no problem, thanks |
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| 15:49.45 | The_Photographer | sh00p: I could send you a memo if everything is ok |
| 15:50.05 | sh00p | yeah if you feel like |
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| 15:50.40 | The_Photographer | sh00p: I dont think install again a compiled version of 4.2.1 kernel, 3.16 is ok for me |
| 15:50.53 | sh00p | the kernel was never your problem, it was disk space |
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| 15:51.08 | The_Photographer | well, bye guys, thanks |
| 15:51.13 | sh00p | bye bye |
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| 16:51.07 | xof1s | hello. Is it a right syntax for downgrade samba from 4.1 to 3.6? apt-get install -t wheeze samba=3.6.6-6+deb7u4. I have debian sid, this is my sources.list http://sprunge.us/BQeZ . My error is "E: Version '3.6.6-6+deb7u4' for 'samba' was not found". These versions of package are available: http://sprunge.us/MJKf . Any hint? Thanx |
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| 16:52.30 | centrx | xof1s, If you are running sid, downgrading samba to a version in wheezy is not likely to work |
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| 16:53.51 | c0fe_machine | is there any reason to downgrade at all? |
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| 16:55.34 | xof1s | because samba was upgraded from my mistake |
| 16:56.19 | c0fe_machine | yeah but what are the issues with the newer version? |
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| 16:56.52 | xof1s | since upgrade samba login from windows stations to almost accounts is not working and cause need for restart samba service |
| 16:57.18 | c0fe_machine | i see, very strange |
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| 16:58.24 | xof1s | yes. All old cfg were kept |
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| 17:06.06 | xof1s | so is some web directory where can be downloaded older version for sid, which I can install with dpkg -i and with all dependencies? Or another way to downgrade. This is very frustrate, I can't downgrade with package manager? |
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| 17:08.21 | centrx | xof1s, you can compile the older package from source |
| 17:08.35 | centrx | xof1s, but if you upgraded samba by mistake, why is your whole system sid? Did you upgrade the whole system by mistake? |
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| 17:12.03 | xof1s | centrx: ok, I thought. // I installed cifs-utils and that upgraded samba and many other packages. I didn't see. System is not mine, I'm not sure why they use sid. :) |
| 17:12.34 | lesta | xof1s: samba give any error about wrong filesystem ? |
| 17:12.48 | centrx | xof1s, right but if they are using sid, downgrading their samba back to a version from 3 years ago isn't good either |
| 17:13.28 | Nindustries | Hi guys, so I got a lvm volume group -> lvm logical volume -> luks -> ext4. My ext4 partition is only 48MB, while storage is 4TB. Any idea what commands I can execute to search for the culprit? pvdisplay shows PV size 4TB |
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| 17:13.48 | xof1s | lesta: in debug is nothing about "filesystem |
| 17:13.53 | valdyn | Nindustries: now use lvdisplay |
| 17:13.57 | lesta | k |
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| 17:14.35 | Nindustries | valdyn: shows 3.99TiB http://pastie.org/10301088 |
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| 17:15.09 | valdyn | Nindustries: next whatever you use for luks |
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| 17:15.31 | Nindustries | cryptsetup |
| 17:15.48 | xof1s | lesta: I see only warning in debug, which is http://sprunge.us/eKQi . It causes login from account created before upgrade. Otherwise accounts created after upgrade normal work |
| 17:15.51 | valdyn | Nindustries: sure, what does it say? |
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| 17:18.07 | Nindustries | hm, i'm confused. it says device is inactive. When doing a cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/vg_media/volMedia volmedia : Enter passphrase for /dev/vg_media/volMedia: Cannot use device /dev/vg_media/volMedia which is in use (already mapped or mounted). |
| 17:18.28 | Nindustries | This is probably my fault, as I'm new to LVM and all. |
| 17:18.41 | valdyn | Nindustries: i read "in use", not "inactive" |
| 17:19.19 | Nindustries | cryptsetup status volmedia : /dev/mapper/volmedia is inactive. |
| 17:19.55 | Nindustries | ah wait |
| 17:20.00 | Nindustries | I used the wrong name :P |
| 17:20.21 | Nindustries | valdyn: http://pastie.org/10301096 |
| 17:20.48 | valdyn | Nindustries: so that is huge too |
| 17:20.58 | jifix | hi |
| 17:21.01 | valdyn | Nindustries: how do you know the fs is only 48MB ? |
| 17:21.14 | jifix | i need a little help |
| 17:21.28 | jifix | i run debian testing with mate |
| 17:21.51 | jifix | when i log in to mate abiword start |
| 17:21.53 | Nindustries | It said when I mounted it valdyn |
| 17:21.55 | jifix | everytime |
| 17:22.00 | Nindustries | Now I just gotta find how to mount it again.. |
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| 17:22.17 | valdyn | Nindustries: mount /dev/mapper/volmedia_crypt /mnt/ |
| 17:22.35 | Nindustries | Aha! Yah, got it |
| 17:22.38 | Nindustries | valdyn: /dev/mapper/volmedia_crypt 76M 76M 0 100% /mnt/volmedia |
| 17:23.07 | jifix | i check mate-session-properties |
| 17:23.20 | jifix | but abiword is not there |
| 17:23.21 | valdyn | Nindustries: now you can keep it mounted and run "resize2fs /dev/mapper/volmedia_crypt" |
| 17:24.15 | jifix | mate-session-properties is the start up application preference of mate |
| 17:24.34 | Nindustries | Aha! |
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| 17:24.44 | jifix | how can i stop abiword from starting when i log in to mate? |
| 17:24.48 | valdyn | Nindustries: now depending on what you want to store on it, it might be a much better idea to recreate the fs with non-default settings |
| 17:25.22 | jifix | if i unistall abiword it will not start but if i reinstall it it will start again |
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| 17:25.45 | Nindustries | hmm |
| 17:25.57 | somiaj | jifix: what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:26.10 | jifix | somiaj: testing |
| 17:26.20 | jifix | somiaj: with the latest updates |
| 17:26.29 | somiaj | jifix: I have seen this before, it is a bug/feature in the .desktop file that is provided with the abiword package I belive. dpkg -L abiword, see were the .desktop files it puts are, check those, bet you the problem is there |
| 17:26.33 | Nindustries | valdyn: something is up http://pastie.org/10301103 |
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| 17:27.37 | Widow | Oi |
| 17:28.00 | somiaj | jifix: hmm not seeing a bug, but someone else ran into this issue. I think it is something in the abiword package causing it, I would check the .desktop file of abiword's package but not sure what the issue could be. I was thinking there was a bug but not finding it. |
| 17:28.01 | Widow | sou novo aki Alguem ON ? |
| 17:28.04 | Nindustries | when I do a mkfs.ext4, "device size reported to be 0" |
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| 17:28.18 | somiaj | Nindustries: what device are you running this on? |
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| 17:28.30 | Nindustries | the /mnt/volmedia |
| 17:28.39 | Nindustries | oh, wait |
| 17:28.41 | jifix | somiaj: http://pastebin.gr/2808 |
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| 17:29.06 | Nindustries | hmm |
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| 17:29.15 | somiaj | Nindustries: that isn't a device, that is a mount point. |
| 17:29.20 | jifix | somiaj: the results of dpkg -L abiword |
| 17:29.23 | somiaj | Nindustries: you want to unoumt the current file system and use the device |
| 17:29.54 | Nindustries | Yeah, doing that |
| 17:30.14 | somiaj | jifix: well you can check the .desktop file (line 31) or check the changelog, I also found this on ubuntu, seems some other application may be starting abiwrod. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/abiword/+bug/1432271 |
| 17:30.26 | somiaj | jifix: again these are just things to debug, I'm not sure what the issue is |
| 17:30.44 | Nindustries | IT WORKS somiaj :D |
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| 17:32.37 | Nindustries | Thank you valdyn & somiaj ! |
| 17:32.40 | jifix | somiaj: maybe it is because of emphathy |
| 17:32.59 | jifix | this happen after i first log in to empathy |
| 17:33.09 | Nindustries | is happy |
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| 17:34.42 | Nindustries | thank you. |
| 17:35.49 | atrapado | any way for systemd to wait until a service (script) has ended, or a replacement for X-Interactive? I want to warn the user something if something happens and not to continue boot process until the user has acknowledged. |
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| 17:37.18 | jifix | somiaj: thanks! |
| 17:39.20 | somiaj | atrapado: #sytemd might be better help. I'd like to think there is a way but I am not finding one and still learning my way around systemd |
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| 17:40.31 | atrapado | thanks somiaj |
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| 17:53.21 | saisiddhant | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:53.28 | saisiddhant | sorry |
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| 17:53.58 | hassoon | lmao |
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| 17:56.57 | dontknow | anyone observed that wheezy has better power and heat management than jessie on laptop? |
| 17:57.21 | hassoon | jessie is doing godo with my laptop |
| 17:57.26 | hassoon | *good * |
| 17:57.50 | dontknow | and they work as same performance |
| 17:58.10 | dontknow | hassoon, but have you compared to the wheezy? |
| 17:58.10 | hassoon | what ? |
| 17:58.26 | hassoon | i used wheezy with another laptop before |
| 17:58.31 | hassoon | but jessie seems more stable |
| 17:58.48 | dontknow | hassoon, i think you need to test it on the same pc |
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| 18:00.31 | dontknow | according to my experience, fan usage on laptop like this; arch > jessie > wheezy |
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| 18:01.14 | dontknow | heat producing; arch = jessie > wheezy |
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| 18:01.58 | dontknow | so updating softwares tend to suck? |
| 18:02.02 | dontknow | updated* |
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| 18:02.49 | dontknow | ah forgot to mention the wheezy with default kernel |
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| 18:03.13 | dontknow | if you install the backport kernel it behaves like jessie |
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| 18:08.40 | romm | hey! so i did a dist-upgrade and i regret my decision. after reboot i get into emergency mode which requests the root password, but then vomits 'sulogin: crypt failed: invalid argument' and now i'm stuck with a non-booting box |
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| 18:08.59 | romm | any help will be appreciated |
| 18:09.07 | nkuttler | romm: dist-upgrade from what to what? |
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| 18:10.15 | romm | nkuttler: i had testing with backports so i removed the backports from sources.list and did dist-upgrade. i guess it's equivalent to a regular update? |
| 18:10.19 | romm | *upgrade |
| 18:11.07 | nkuttler | romm: #debian-next @oftc is for testing/sid support |
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| 18:11.20 | nkuttler | no idea about that bug |
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| 18:13.37 | bababooo | I have debian installed in a computer with windows 8.1 and uefi. On restart it goes to windows os unless i use key to go to startup device menu, where I can choose Debian, which is placed after Windows Boot Manager. Only then can I go to GNU GRUB window. What can I do to have computer boot into debian first? |
| 18:14.29 | nkuttler | bababooo: you'd have to write grub to the mbr and configre it to load windows? |
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| 18:14.47 | nkuttler | bababooo: fwiw, if it's just a nuisance i wouldn't mess with that.. |
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| 18:17.31 | ilteris | how can I add a user to sudoers file? |
| 18:18.10 | ilteris | adduser username sudo didn't work |
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| 18:19.05 | ilteris | I am still getting username is not in the sudoers file. I apologize if this is rather offtopic |
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| 18:20.45 | nkuttler | ilteris: adduser only adds it to the group, not the file. that should be enough though to use sudo with the default sudoers file |
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| 18:21.07 | nkuttler | ilteris: can you paste.debian.net your /etc/sudoers ? |
| 18:22.10 | equa | ilteris: you need to log out and and back in. |
| 18:22.56 | nkuttler | oh right, that too.. or newgrp |
| 18:23.15 | d3lphi | I have installed wine, but I cannot start it to install a windows program. How do I start a wine GUI ?? "alt+f2" and "wine" does not work, and there's no tool/application called wine when I browse in my application list in Gnome3 (Debian Jessie) |
| 18:23.23 | ilteris | http://paste.debian.net/283913 nkuttler |
| 18:23.39 | nkuttler | ilteris: what equa said |
| 18:24.04 | ilteris | ok doing it now |
| 18:25.16 | saisiddhant | d3iphi: get to homescreen >>use your superkey>> type wine and click it then a gui appears |
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| 18:26.34 | ilteris | thanks equa |
| 18:26.49 | equa | ilteris: np |
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| 18:40.01 | intelikey | hi. i have one box that doesn't accept the [c] key and you can't copy and paste c into a command either it deletes it completely. this only happens in bash and is both xorg and console , dash/sh works fine. can anyone help me guess at what might cause this ? |
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| 18:40.55 | intelikey | s/is/in/ ^ |
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| 18:43.10 | runlevl4 | ilteris: use visudo to edit the file |
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| 18:50.40 | intelikey | ok one other qestion then. i like to use the alt+arrow keys to loop around the tty/consoles. something in debian jessy seems to hold the consoles tty[5,6,7] open. and you can't deallocvt them. anyone know what would hold them open ? |
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| 18:55.35 | intelikey | or what allocates them at boot time ? |
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| 19:10.16 | centrx | integral, init launches several getty instances, no? |
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| 19:45.41 | valdyn | internat: what do you mean? how does that allocation interfer with alt-arrow? |
| 19:45.48 | valdyn | nvm |
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| 20:04.35 | rhizome | in jessie there seems to be an annoying dependency mismatch between libass5 and libass-dev |
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| 20:21.55 | Carisius | Hello, what does mean the "100 /var/lib/dpkg/status" entry in the output of the apt-cache policy? it conflicts with the version i need |
| 20:22.23 | Carisius | (in the version table)* |
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| 20:23.26 | dbfuse20 | how do i bring up a non pingable ip address. |
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| 20:24.36 | equa | dbfuse20: explain. bring it up how? make it pingable? |
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| 20:25.34 | rhizome | what exactly is a "non-pingable ip address?" |
| 20:25.41 | Carisius | I think he means to block ping |
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| 20:26.10 | rhizome | maybe |
| 20:28.28 | hexnewbie | My favourite is admins who block all ICMP and then their network resources are inaccessible if there is lower MTU somewhere along the route, and all other errors are also lost |
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| 20:30.50 | dbfuse20 | equa, how to assign a ip, if I do ifup eth2 it brings it up as pingable. I need it so that my cluster can pick it up . |
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| 20:31.03 | rhizome | hexnewbie: it's not a decision to take lightly, to be sure |
| 20:31.16 | rhizome | dbfuse20: not making sense yet |
| 20:32.27 | dbfuse20 | need a virtual ip |
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| 20:32.55 | teaearlgraycold | Hey, I'm on Debain 8 and seem to have glibc 2.12 installed. How can I get 2.15? |
| 20:32.57 | equa | dbfuse20: what are you using to manage your network? nm, wicd, or editing /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 20:33.23 | teaearlgraycold | Nevermind, Debain 7 |
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| 20:33.28 | dbfuse20 | editing /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:33.32 | teaearlgraycold | Debian* |
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| 20:34.57 | equa | dbfuse20: if you got it setup correctly. just do ifup <device> or ip link set <device> up |
| 20:35.13 | dbfuse20 | equ, will try thx |
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| 20:44.57 | equa | , v glibc |
| 20:44.58 | judd | No package named 'glibc' was found in amd64. |
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| 20:48.59 | integfred | Hi, I'm trying to install debian on the olinuxino-lime, from here: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Allwinner#Installing_from_an_SD_card_image |
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| 20:49.13 | integfred | The zcat command doesn't write two partitions. |
| 20:49.30 | integfred | And I think this prevents it from booting? |
| 20:49.39 | integfred | any help much appreciated |
| 20:50.02 | integfred | fdisk -l only shows a fat32 partition |
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| 20:51.35 | integfred | I also tried the "Creating a bootable SD Card with u-boot" section, but it ruined the partition table on the sdcard |
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| 20:52.14 | integfred | it did, however boot, but complained about it and (I think) could not find the rootfs. |
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| 21:00.47 | mrrhq | integfred: If you mount the boot partition, does it have a uEnv.txt file or something? |
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| 21:02.30 | integfred | it's a 40mb partition with boot.scr, initrd.gz vmlinuz and a load of dtbs' |
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| 21:02.42 | integfred | That's what got written. |
| 21:03.03 | integfred | But the rootfs partition didn't by the looks of things. |
| 21:03.15 | integfred | I think it's an issue with the zcat command. |
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| 21:04.54 | integfred | partition.img.gz got written |
| 21:05.02 | integfred | I just mounted the image. |
| 21:06.38 | integfred | firmware.A10-OLinuXino-Lime.img.gz wont mount, it says I have to specify the filesystem type. |
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| 21:17.16 | pythonsnake | hey |
| 21:17.21 | pythonsnake | 0.0.0.0 is not working for me |
| 21:17.29 | pythonsnake | I did changes to interfaces in /etc/network |
| 21:17.33 | pythonsnake | can that be the cause/ |
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| 21:18.28 | equa | pythonsnake: what are you trying to do and what changes have you made to interfaces? |
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| 21:19.11 | pythonsnake | equa: I have bought a new ip (failover) and I added it |
| 21:19.25 | pythonsnake | then I switched the original ip with the new ip (failover becomes main ip) |
| 21:19.31 | pythonsnake | but then ddos and it all bugged |
| 21:19.38 | pythonsnake | now I just want it back to default |
| 21:19.50 | pythonsnake | pasting my file |
| 21:19.56 | pythonsnake | http://pastie.org/private/vuxebhmao6nq0yy9whhyq |
| 21:20.00 | pythonsnake | I rebooted |
| 21:20.03 | equa | pythonsnake: is it back to the old configuration? do ip a |
| 21:20.06 | pythonsnake | but using 0.0.0.0 still won't work |
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| 21:21.10 | pythonsnake | http://pastie.org/private/xroiqauv4nuk1aghmdsya equa |
| 21:21.12 | pythonsnake | not sure what eth1 is |
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| 21:23.27 | pythonsnake | equa: any idea? |
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| 21:24.20 | equa | pythonsnake: seems like you got a network connection. do ping -c 4 google.com |
| 21:24.28 | zaiger | anyone know how to change ur shell to back permanently? google isnt giving me much help |
| 21:24.30 | zaiger | bash |
| 21:24.31 | pythonsnake | equa: yes I'm ssh'ing to it fine |
| 21:24.35 | pythonsnake | nginx works fine |
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| 21:24.46 | valdyn | zaiger: its bash by default |
| 21:24.51 | pythonsnake | however when I try for example a python webapp binding to 0.0.0.0 it doesn't work |
| 21:24.57 | pythonsnake | or a teamspeak |
| 21:25.03 | pythonsnake | anything with 0.9.9.9 |
| 21:25.03 | zaiger | when i useradd it is sh by default |
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| 21:25.23 | valdyn | zaiger: so use "adduser" like everyone else |
| 21:25.29 | zaiger | lol ok |
| 21:26.02 | equa | pythonsnake: what port are you trying to bound? can you ping 0.0.0.0? |
| 21:26.20 | valdyn | zaiger: the shell is dash for root and probably some system users, because its faster, but bash for users because its more comfortable |
| 21:27.09 | pythonsnake | equa: pinging 0.0.0.0 brings me to 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:27.11 | pythonsnake | is that normal |
| 21:27.16 | equa | pythonsnake: yes |
| 21:27.29 | pythonsnake | I'm trying to use the port that always worked |
| 21:27.30 | pythonsnake | 8080 |
| 21:27.30 | zaiger | my root account is back but when i meke new accounts it is sh, ill try adduser instead of useradd and see if that hleps, thanks |
| 21:27.34 | zaiger | bash* |
| 21:27.51 | equa | pythonsnake: do netstat napt | grep 8080 |
| 21:27.55 | pythonsnake | ok |
| 21:28.03 | pythonsnake | one sec, I'm rebooting just to be sure |
| 21:28.04 | valdyn | zaiger: useradd is just alot harder to use right too - now you might have given system ids to users or vice versa |
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| 21:28.33 | pythonsnake | btw |
| 21:28.37 | pythonsnake | I have two ips |
| 21:28.45 | pythonsnake | eth0 and eth0:0 |
| 21:29.02 | pythonsnake | if I get ddos'ed on eth0's ip I can just put the inferface down right? |
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| 21:29.11 | pythonsnake | and eth0:0 will continue to work right/ |
| 21:29.26 | valdyn | pythonsnake: maybe, maybe not |
| 21:29.40 | pythonsnake | I guess I'll have to try then |
| 21:29.50 | pythonsnake | equa: ok it still doesn't work |
| 21:30.01 | valdyn | pythonsnake: you cant really try to be ddosed in many ways |
| 21:30.02 | pythonsnake | netstat grep gives nothing |
| 21:30.20 | pythonsnake | Walex: what do you mean |
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| 21:30.35 | pythonsnake | I'm in the gaming business, it is known that there is a lot ddos there |
| 21:30.53 | equa | pythonsnake: is your app running and bound to a port? |
| 21:30.56 | pythonsnake | equa: trying different ports doesn't help |
| 21:30.58 | pythonsnake | yes |
| 21:31.08 | equa | pythonsnake: you're sure it's port 8080? |
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| 21:31.25 | pythonsnake | yes |
| 21:31.27 | valdyn | pythonsnake: ddos is a generic term referring to alot of things - switching ip on the same physical line may or may not help |
| 21:31.54 | equa | do netstat -napt then. look for anything that is using port 8080 |
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| 21:33.32 | pythonsnake | equa: my application is.. |
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| 21:33.59 | pythonsnake | equa: wait you meant netstat -napt | grep 8080 |
| 21:34.02 | pythonsnake | not netstat napt | grep 8080 |
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| 21:34.14 | pythonsnake | so yeah tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:8080 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1891/python |
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| 21:34.29 | pythonsnake | valdyn: it's udp flood |
| 21:35.00 | equa | pythonsnake: it's listening on 0.0.0.0:8080 |
| 21:35.05 | pythonsnake | yes |
| 21:35.10 | equa | pythonsnake: then what is wrong? |
| 21:35.19 | pythonsnake | I can't access it! |
| 21:35.22 | pythonsnake | from the server ip |
| 21:35.35 | pythonsnake | http://195.154.200.7:8080/ |
| 21:35.35 | equa | pythonsnake: use 172.0.0.1 from the server or localhost |
| 21:35.37 | pythonsnake | you can? |
| 21:36.13 | equa | *127.0.0.1 |
| 21:36.26 | pythonsnake | you mean bind it to 127? |
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| 21:36.58 | equa | pythonsnake: how are you accessing your server? use the address localhost or 127.0.0.1 |
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| 21:38.15 | equa | pythonsnake: if it's a browser use http://localhost:8080 |
| 21:38.41 | pythonsnake | equa: why? |
| 21:38.50 | pythonsnake | equa: from external ip |
| 21:38.56 | pythonsnake | because 0.0.0.0 is for external ip |
| 21:39.13 | equa | pythonsnake: how are ppl from the outside connection to your app? a browser? |
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| 21:39.23 | equa | *connecting |
| 21:39.41 | pythonsnake | yes a browser |
| 21:40.01 | equa | pythonsnake: then http://youripordnsname:8080 |
| 21:40.16 | pythonsnake | yes but it doesn't work.... |
| 21:40.19 | pythonsnake | http://195.154.200.7:8080/ |
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| 21:42.52 | equa | pythonsnake: do you have a firewall setup? you might need to open port 8080 |
| 21:44.01 | pythonsnake | equa: I don't |
| 21:44.08 | wget | Hello guys. I downloaded the iso debian-live-8.1.0-amd64-standard.iso from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ and at boot the system ask me for a username and password, I tested, root:root, root:password, debian:debian and other combinations, but the iso doesn't let me in. Any idea? |
| 21:44.18 | equa | pythonsnake: server connect directly to the internet? any router? |
| 21:44.24 | pythonsnake | yes |
| 21:44.26 | pythonsnake | no |
| 21:44.29 | pythonsnake | well datacenter |
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| 21:45.27 | equa | pythonsnake: you said you have two ips. try it with the other one instead. http://<ip2>:8080 |
| 21:45.41 | pythonsnake | equa: i think there is something really stupid I haven't noticed.... |
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| 21:45.47 | pythonsnake | yeah doesn't work with other ip |
| 21:46.12 | wget | is becoming mad. |
| 21:46.13 | equa | pythonsnake: can you connect to your app on the machine? |
| 21:46.17 | mtn | wget, the live disk should not ask for a password or have a login screen. how did you make the boot disk? |
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| 21:47.21 | wget | mtn: simply put a virtual disk in my vbox. (I'm testing a piece of software to see if it will run well on Debian 8, I'm an ArchLinux guy and always starts my servers in CLI thus the reason why I choose the normal iso without GUI). |
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| 21:48.15 | wget | I just booted the KDE version and it is working well. But I definitely want the normal CLI version. |
| 21:48.22 | pythonsnake | equa: I'll try to reset iptables just in case |
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| 21:48.38 | equa | pythonsnake: in your python app, bind it with your ip:8080 instead of 0.0.0.0 |
| 21:49.00 | equa | pythonsnake: iptables shoudl be blank if you have no rules. do iptables -L to see them |
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| 21:49.06 | mtn | wget, all the live disks have a gui, as far as I know |
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| 21:50.20 | pythonsnake | equa: I have a lot of fail2ban |
| 21:50.22 | pythonsnake | due to ddos |
| 21:50.26 | pythonsnake | I think we have found the issue |
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| 21:50.47 | equa | pythonsnake: oh good. hope you fix it |
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| 21:50.50 | wget | Hum... It seems a bug. |
| 21:50.59 | pythonsnake | equa: yeah it worked! |
| 21:51.02 | pythonsnake | thank you very much man |
| 21:51.06 | pythonsnake | thta was frustating |
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| 21:51.15 | pythonsnake | lol stupid stuff.... |
| 21:51.18 | equa | pythonsnake: np. fail2ban uses iptables so that counts as a firewall btw |
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| 21:57.04 | pythonsnake | yeah |
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| 22:03.52 | sailcat | wget, i seem to remember that some of the live disks use password "live" |
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| 22:07.26 | clayreed | Hello Debian channel. |
| 22:07.43 | clayreed | I have a recent install. |
| 22:08.05 | clayreed | But it's not recognizing my hardware's internal microphone. |
| 22:08.39 | clayreed | Actually, I'm not even sure if it "recognizes it" or not. |
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| 22:09.15 | clayreed | It's just not working. |
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| 22:09.22 | clayreed | Anyway. What steps might I take to get some sense of how to fix this? |
| 22:11.14 | clayreed | I've tried looking at the wiki for MacBooks, but it doesn't seem to mention the internal microphone. |
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| 22:12.13 | jhutchins_wk | !alsa checklist |
| 22:12.13 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 22:12.28 | jhutchins_wk | Look for the mic in the alsamixer. |
| 22:14.15 | clayreed | I kind of find the interface to aslamixer confusing. |
| 22:14.35 | clayreed | I run the command and I see Card: Chip: View: Item: and some other menus. |
| 22:14.46 | clayreed | Front and center is a very strange looking graphic. |
| 22:14.58 | clayreed | Kind of like a thermometer. |
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| 22:15.56 | clayreed | But let me try this alsa checklist as best I can. |
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| 22:23.09 | wget | On debian, if I install syslinux, I need to specify the kernel and initrd location in syslinix.cfg. However, on Debian, the kernel has a number in it. The syslinux configuration file needs thus to be updated at each kernel update. How is this managed on Debian? |
| 22:23.27 | wget | I thought using a symlink would be enough, but I doubt apt will change the symlink for me. |
| 22:23.30 | wget | Same issue thus |
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| 22:36.49 | blonkel | need serious help, im unable to touch files because it says my disk is full, but it isnt.. http://pastebin.com/c5DkXWVJ any idears? never seen this before... |
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| 22:38.36 | petn-randall | blonkel: Can you show us the output of 'mount'? |
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| 22:41.06 | blonkel | petn-randall: http://pastebin.com/nuRuJQxF |
| 22:42.22 | petn-randall | blonkel: Ah, btrfs. |
| 22:42.45 | musca | hmm, in the output of "df -i" the line for /dev/md1 doesn't list correct values. Or is this normal for btrfs? |
| 22:43.24 | petn-randall | blonkel: I guess it's still beta for a reason. You might have some luck asking in their channel, I guess you have to re-balance something (I darkly remember there was something like that). |
| 22:43.55 | petn-randall | musca: Yeah, btrfs doesn't have inodes in the ext2/3/4 sense. |
| 22:44.14 | musca | i see. |
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| 22:44.49 | blonkel | petn-randall thanks so far :) |
| 22:45.28 | petn-randall | blonkel: You have backups, right? |
| 22:45.46 | blonkel | sure, its just a second node of a cluster :) |
| 22:45.59 | petn-randall | ok, good luck then. I'm sure it's fixable. |
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| 22:46.13 | blonkel | but it randomly crashed today with a peak on diskusage.. |
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| 22:46.39 | petn-randall | blonkel: Is the first cluster running btrfs, too? |
| 22:47.36 | blonkel | yeah and theres no issue |
| 22:47.40 | blonkel | maybe not yet :) |
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| 22:48.00 | blonkel | it seems i found the issue: devid 1 size 39.06GiB used 39.06GiB path /dev/md1 |
| 22:48.10 | blonkel | says btrfs fi show |
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| 22:53.17 | petn-randall | blonkel: Ok, you've got a fail-over, but do you have *backups*? |
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| 22:55.44 | neldogz | Hi all, recently I installed Debian 64-bit and upgraded to stretch. Then I tried to install TeamViewer x64 but it was missing some 32bit libraries. The instructions on the TeamViewer site said to enable the x86 architecture and proceed within installing the 32bit version of Teamviewer instead. When doing this apt-get told me it would uninstall like 100 packages. Since I was testing this I went ahead and allowed it and it broke the |
| 22:55.44 | neldogz | system. Why is it doing this? |
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| 22:58.59 | petn-randall | neldogz: Because you asked it to? |
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| 22:59.36 | neldogz | petn-randall, Yes but why would it uninstall all the packages (including those for e-mail and web) leaving a broken system? |
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| 23:00.15 | petn-randall | neldogz: I'm guessing that teamviewer doesn't work on stretch, but it has odd dependencies that apt tried its best to satisfy. |
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| 23:00.40 | petn-randall | neldogz: It _does_ list the packages it want to remove though, you should always look at that list if there is one. |
| 23:00.56 | neldogz | petn-randall, that make sense. apt probably figured those dependencies would cause an issue or something and prompted to remove. |
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| 23:01.24 | neldogz | petn-randall, I saw the list and since I was just testing I allowed it to go forward. I wanted to see what would happen. |
| 23:01.27 | petn-randall | neldogz: Hard to say though. You'd need to show the actual output for us to investigate. |
| 23:01.55 | petn-randall | neldogz: Also, welcome to beta testing our next release. :) |
| 23:02.20 | neldogz | petn-randall, :) thanks hehe. I will set it back up to see if i can replicate the issue. |
| 23:02.49 | petn-randall | neldogz: If you do, check out #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, that's where testing/sid are supported. |
| 23:02.55 | petn-randall | (it's a different IRC network) |
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| 23:03.06 | neldogz | petn-randall, thank you very much. I will chat on there. |
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| 23:04.03 | clayreed | @jhutchins_wk |
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| 23:04.29 | clayreed | When I look at the asla interface... it talks about something called PulseAduio. |
| 23:04.38 | petn-randall | neldogz: Just a heads-up: Whatever details you'll find will only be relevant for the teamviewer people, because they set the dependencies. Debian will probably not change anything to accomodate that software. |
| 23:04.59 | clayreed | My intuition says PulseAudio is a piece of my hardware. |
| 23:05.12 | petn-randall | pulseaudio is a piece of software |
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| 23:05.14 | clayreed | How do I answer the question what is PulseAduio? |
| 23:05.14 | petn-randall | !pulseaudio |
| 23:05.14 | dpkg | PulseAudio (formerly Polypaudio) is a cross-platform network sound server, intended as a drop-in replacement for <ESD>. Packaged for Debian since 4.0 "Etch", read /usr/share/doc/pulseaudio/README.Debian after installation for configuration recommendations; Debian specific how-to is at http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=12497 . http://pulseaudio.org/wiki/FAQ http://pulseaudio.org/ #pulseaudio on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:05.25 | clayreed | Oh... |
| 23:05.27 | clayreed | OK. |
| 23:05.54 | clayreed | So is it possible PulseAdudio is not jiving w/ my internal microphone. |
| 23:06.15 | clayreed | And I need to find, install & then select some kind of drop-in replacement that will. |
| 23:06.20 | clayreed | ? |
| 23:06.27 | clayreed | Also, in Alsa... |
| 23:06.32 | clayreed | When it says Capture |
| 23:06.56 | clayreed | that's the way of referring to what an internal microphone should be doing? |
| 23:07.23 | debhelp | hello |
| 23:07.31 | clayreed | But when I switch to the capture view from the Playback view... |
| 23:08.09 | clayreed | The thermometer is different. |
| 23:08.27 | clayreed | In the Playback view it's got just a little bit of green at the bottom. |
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| 23:13.59 | clayreed | OK, here's a strange behavior. |
| 23:14.07 | clayreed | I usually use headphones so I didn't notice it. |
| 23:14.15 | joeyc | whats the best way to install nvidia drives for gt 740 ? |
| 23:14.36 | clayreed | I just tried to see how the Asla thermometer would react if I put music on. |
| 23:14.42 | clayreed | It moves. |
| 23:14.55 | equa | joeyc: do lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 23:15.12 | clayreed | But sound doesn't play through the speakers until I plug & unplug headphones into the headphone jack. |
| 23:15.24 | clayreed | So maybe I do need a replacement for PulseAudio? |
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| 23:15.36 | joeyc | havent removed windows yet |
| 23:15.43 | bakaneko | clayreed: indeed |
| 23:15.48 | joeyc | whats a good desktop setup for a debian custem install |
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| 23:16.27 | equa | joeyc: default is gnome. good is objective. |
| 23:16.32 | clayreed | bakaneko: How might I determine what kind of audio server is best for my hardware? |
| 23:16.47 | bakaneko | clayreed: alsa |
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| 23:18.09 | p3n1s | joeyc, fluxbox |
| 23:18.40 | clayreed | How do I interact w/ asla in such a way as to achieve this? |
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| 23:21.01 | clayreed | I got it! bakaneko |
| 23:21.37 | clayreed | I "select sound card" and then I see Nvidia |
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| 23:22.08 | clayreed | I select that and I see a whole wealth of thermometers for all kinds of audio functions. |
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| 23:43.40 | johnfg | I'm getting this error after an aptitude update: |
| 23:44.14 | johnfg | Or, I guess I should say, during: E: Read error - read (5: Input/output error) |
| 23:44.41 | johnfg | I did a reboot, ran fsck, and all's ok that way. Is that enough info or is more needed? |
| 23:45.22 | johnfg | it was from: Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org sid/main Sources/DiffIndex, followed by: |
| 23:45.50 | johnfg | Fetched 10 B in 22s (0 B/s); then the msg I pasted earlier. |
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| 23:49.53 | johnfg | Oh, and, by the way, after the error, i ran aptitude clean; then ran update again and got the same error. |
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