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| 00:59.54 | Utils | How do I add a path... to path for current user? |
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| 01:02.55 | Brigo | Utils, in the .bashrc file |
| 01:03.19 | Brigo | for example: PATH="$PATH:/sbin:/usr/sbin" |
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| 01:04.56 | Utils | ok got it hanks |
| 01:04.57 | Utils | thanks |
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| 01:18.02 | giuseppe_ | is there something in debian who can compile programs ? something like emerge in gentoo |
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| 01:20.29 | NiLon | yes, dpkg |
| 01:21.36 | NiLon | and apt is interface for it that might or might not make it easier |
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| 01:24.40 | NiLon | not sure tho if you want to compile them literally or just install |
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| 01:25.02 | RickHull | update-rc.d avahi-daemon disable ? |
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| 01:25.58 | equa | RickHull: systemctl disable avahi-daemon, then systemctl stop avahi-daemon to stop it |
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| 01:35.21 | giuseppe_ | NiLon... i mean literally compile |
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| 01:39.52 | Brigo | giuseppe_, apt can download the sources of any debian package and conpile it for you, even can install or compile, if needed the dependencies. |
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| 01:41.37 | Brigo | giuseppe_, sorry, a mistake, apt will install the build dependencies, not the dependencies. |
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| 01:46.12 | syntroPi | hey guys: when i setup dkim for server mail.domain.tld (MX) and my users have addresses like user@domain.tld: which domain name do i use for dkim? mail.domain.tld or just domain.tld? |
| 01:46.27 | NiLon | giuseppe_ then follow something l ike https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/build.en.html |
| 01:48.19 | giuseppe_ | thanks |
| 01:48.32 | Brigo | NiLon, domain.tld. |
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| 01:49.52 | syntroPi | Brigo, was that answer for me? |
| 01:50.18 | equa | syntroPi: yes |
| 01:50.27 | Brigo | syntroPi, yes |
| 01:50.51 | Brigo | too late for me, bye :) |
| 01:51.00 | syntroPi | so its not the mx but rather the domain part of the senders email address then |
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| 01:51.06 | NiLon | Brigo what? |
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| 01:51.26 | NiLon | oh it was for someone else |
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| 01:55.50 | abrotman | syntroPi: you can sign as either, but yes, I'd recommend the same domain as the header From |
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| 01:56.48 | abrotman | syntroPi: the receiving system isn't likely to look at the MX for your sending domain |
| 01:57.05 | syntroPi | yes that makes sense |
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| 01:58.39 | abrotman | admittedly, it really shouldn't matter |
| 01:58.55 | abrotman | syntroPi: there are tons of docs about best practices for DKIM/DMARC |
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| 02:00.37 | syntroPi | abrotman, thats what confused me that there is so much info about it |
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| 02:01.26 | abrotman | syntroPi: dmarc.org has tons of docs (and a responsive mailing list) |
| 02:01.30 | syntroPi | i hope my dns provider will take a 2048 bit key in his zone... takes a bit long |
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| 02:02.57 | abrotman | (if you're plannign to do full DMARC) |
| 02:02.57 | syntroPi | erm rather the zone for domain.tld i meant ofc |
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| 02:04.05 | syntroPi | for now i just added dkim in amavis, but i will have to read up more about it |
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| 02:06.47 | syntroPi | an spf like "v=spf1 mx -all" i already had before |
| 02:08.37 | abrotman | just make sure you undestand the meeaning of what you publish |
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| 02:30.23 | syntroPi | hmm unfortunately it does not seem to work correctly: i used domain.tld, build a 2048bit key for it and published it via dns aswell as configured amavis (which verified that key as "pass"). sending to check-auth@verifier.port25.com tells me that its a "fail (signature doesn't verify)" |
| 02:31.56 | syntroPi | the mail log shows that amavis seems to sign it dkim_new=default:domain.tld then it gets queued and delivered by postfix |
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| 02:34.41 | syntroPi | the signature itself looks like DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=domain.tld; h=message-id:subject:subject:from:from:date:date :content-transfer-encoding:content-type:content-type :mime-version:received; s=default; t=1437617630; |
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| 02:34.59 | syntroPi | any ideas why it would not verify? |
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| 02:45.44 | syntroPi | the dns already was read correctly by them... maybe postfix changed some headers? |
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| 03:01.26 | Jckf | How should /etc/network/interfaces look if I want to used dhcpcd over dhclient? |
| 03:03.13 | equa | Jckf: something like this http://paste.debian.net/285080/ |
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| 03:04.42 | Jckf | That's basically what I have, but dhcpcd complains that "interfaces defines some interfaces that use dhcp" |
| 03:05.05 | Jckf | Paraphrasing. Let me get the exact message. |
| 03:06.31 | Jckf | Not running dhcpcd because /etc/network/interfaces defines some interfaces that will use a DHCP client |
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| 03:06.53 | equa | Jckf: you don't need dhcpcd on debian, i think i only used that on arch |
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| 03:07.30 | equa | Jckf: if you have the correct settings, just bring up your adapater or restart networking |
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| 03:07.49 | Jckf | I am aware that dhclient works just fine, but I've heard claims of dhcpcd having a smaller resource footprint, and this is on an embedded system |
| 03:08.06 | Jckf | If nothing else, it would be interesting to investigate |
| 03:08.38 | equa | Jckf: perhaps leave interfaces empty and just use dhcpcd |
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| 03:11.22 | screamindynomit | is there a way to format and install an os on to a sd card while useing a raspberry pi? |
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| 03:11.57 | Jckf | screamindynomit: With an extra card reader |
| 03:12.26 | Jckf | You cannot remove the SD card from a running Pi |
| 03:13.06 | screamindynomit | ok |
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| 05:42.26 | cilkay | Hello. Does anyone know how to use the widgets that are used in the Debian GUI installer as a frontend to BASH scripts? |
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| 05:44.44 | cilkay | Never mind. I'd have to install Xorg apparently. It never used to be the case. |
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| 05:47.52 | peterrooney | cilkay: libncurses requires xorg? really? |
| 05:48.05 | cilkay | No, the GUI installer does. |
| 05:48.27 | cilkay | There are two different installers, the text mode installer, which is what you're talking about, and the GUI installer. |
| 05:48.49 | cilkay | The GUI installer used to be GTK + directfb. Now it requires Xorg. |
| 05:48.54 | cilkay | I don't need it that badly. |
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| 06:32.08 | veek | is there a fix for this bug shutdown unit user@0.service timeout |
| 06:32.19 | veek | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70593 |
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| 07:03.03 | rselon | Using a minimal WM, is there a way without installing any aditional packages to run my locker after X mins of innactivity? |
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| 07:08.21 | helmut | hi. I was trying to use a usb modem. usb modeswitch fails on jessie(+systemd), but works in another sid(+sysv) system. jessie's usb-modeswitch does list the corresponding usb id and provides a --message-content in usb-modeswitch-data. issuing that manually also works on jessie. |
| 07:08.38 | helmut | any idea how I could figure out why usb-modeswitch is not properly invoked on the jessie system? |
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| 07:10.36 | helmut | the udev rules shipped with usb-modeswitch-data (on jessie) do list the corresponding usb ids. |
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| 07:31.43 | ChrisH | helmut: from dpkg -L usb-modeswitch-data compare /etc/usb_modeswitch.d and /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules on both boxes. From my experience a reboot after chaning udev stuff did help me many times :) |
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| 07:35.18 | helmut | ChrisH: I did reboot after installing usb-modeswitch. /etc/usb_modeswitch.d is empty for both. while 40-usb_modeswitch.rules do differ, the rules for my usb ids don't differ |
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| 07:36.32 | helmut | ChrisH: I can see that systemd spawns /usr/sbin/usb_modeswitch_dispatcher --switch-systemd 1/1/1/1, which then stats /sys/bus/usb/devices/1-1/1/1 and exits after finding -ENOENT |
| 07:37.14 | helmut | the path exists until 1-1, but the next 1 component is missing |
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| 07:37.44 | helmut | seems like a bug between systemd and usb-modeswitch to me. could it be that the scope of #790652 is wider? |
| 07:37.45 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/790652 in usb-modeswitch (closed): «Please update to 2.2.3 / incompatibility with systemd v221»; severity: important; opened: 2015-06-30; last modified: 2015-07-01. |
| 07:38.00 | ChrisH | helmut: without digging in.... I would test the working (sid) 40-usb_modeswitch.rules on jessie. |
| 07:38.17 | helmut | as I said, those rules don't have relevant differences |
| 07:38.42 | helmut | some new devices are added, but otherwise only comment changes |
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| 07:44.02 | veek | is there a fix for this bug shutdown unit user@0.service timeout |
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| 07:56.19 | choice | Is it a known problem, that Debian 8 hangs while trying to shut down? This happened to me for the second time today. On unrelated systems. |
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| 07:56.30 | choice | Last time it happened a week ago or so on another system. |
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| 07:58.25 | choice | Both times after "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" and then "reboot". |
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| 08:09.07 | rozie | Hi. I have question about apt-dater. After upgrade I have some sessions attached. I would like to close all, where upgrade is finished, no questions are pending and apt reported no error. How to do this? |
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| 08:09.46 | rozie | I'm aware of n and N, but this way I still have to cycle through all sessions... |
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| 08:28.39 | helmut | ChrisH: upgrading to stretch's usb-modeswitch-data did the trick. it seems to me that the cause is a change to the configPack.tar.gz |
| 08:28.47 | helmut | ChrisH: thanks for your ideas |
| 08:28.58 | MrDetonia | Hi there, does anyone have an idea as to why a script called on lightdm startup that uses xrandr to set the correct video resolution is taking 10 seconds to execute? I've been using that same script for ages now, and it's only started doing it after an update. |
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| 08:37.04 | yei | hola ! |
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| 08:47.45 | linuxd | how to get rrtl-nic/rtl81683-3.fw firmware? |
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| 08:51.21 | equa | linuxd: usb or pci? |
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| 08:52.09 | linuxd | equa: it's for the onboard NIC |
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| 08:53.00 | darxmurf | re |
| 08:53.08 | equa | linuxd: lspci -nn . give me the output of your nic |
| 08:53.15 | darxmurf | hum, skpe has been kicked out from testing ? |
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| 08:53.30 | darxmurf | I'm trying to install it back but I can't install libasound2-plugins:i386 |
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| 08:53.41 | darxmurf | libavcodec-ffmpeg-extra56:i386 (>= 7:2.4) but it is not installable |
| 08:53.54 | darxmurf | dependencies can't be fixed :-/ |
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| 08:55.24 | linuxd | equa: mobo GA70A-D3P,here:02:00.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller [10ec:8168] (rev 06) |
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| 08:55.45 | Langley | Hello, can I use the netinst to install on a computer with Wifi only? |
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| 08:56.01 | SynrGy | yes. usually |
| 08:56.05 | petn-randall | darxmurf: Skype never has been part of testing. But let's discuss this in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 08:57.40 | darxmurf | oh in fact I can download the tar directly from skype website and launch the binary. It works. As I'm using it only to text chat it's fine |
| 08:57.46 | Langley | Great |
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| 08:57.57 | darxmurf | don't need to messup my system with all the i386 lib for the .deb package |
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| 08:58.18 | jelly | Langley: it's likely you're going to need non-free firmware for that wifi to actually work, unless you took special care to buy a machine that has wifi linux support without firmware |
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| 08:59.00 | Langley | jelly: I've never had problems with my Wifi in any distro, I also had Debian 8 installed once but cant remember what I used to install with |
| 08:59.49 | SynrGy | Langley: sure, but 'any distro' (except debian), likely had the non-free firmware included |
| 08:59.52 | jelly | Langley: many distros just ship with non-free firmware |
| 08:59.53 | SynrGy | debian does not |
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| 09:00.15 | SynrGy | !firmware images |
| 09:00.16 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 09:00.22 | SynrGy | you can use this ^ |
| 09:00.38 | themill | ponders |
| 09:01.56 | petn-randall | darxmurf: That's probably the staticly built skype. It'll have the disadvantage of security bugs in the underlying libraries not getting fixed. |
| 09:02.02 | Langley | Hmm... Any reason not to use that? |
| 09:02.03 | equa | linuxd: you need firmware-realtek from non-free |
| 09:02.51 | linuxd | equa: ok,how to get it? |
| 09:02.51 | Langley | I'll take it then, thanks |
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| 09:03.29 | equa | linuxd: have you added non-free in your source? apt edit-sources |
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| 09:05.05 | linuxd | equa: so I should edit sources.list,ok.thanx a lot |
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| 09:05.34 | equa | linuxd: np |
| 09:05.46 | SPF | when I'm using the curl command and the URL cannot be reached, it continues trying to resolve the parameters?!?! |
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| 09:07.50 | MrDetonia | Does anybody know how to get X to start in the correct resolution? Currently I'm having lightdm run a script to set the resolution using xrandr on startup, but this is now causing a 10 second delay before login. |
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| 09:08.17 | SPF | oh wait, nvm, found the problem |
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| 09:09.54 | darxmurf | petn-randall: yep of course :-/ but not many choices :-) |
| 09:10.05 | darxmurf | and I don't think MS will release a new skype version soon :-) |
| 09:11.12 | alexzett | Good morning, I'm currently trying to build a backport of imagemagick for wheezy, which is rather frustrating. Is there another source for available backports other than backports.debian.org? |
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| 09:12.21 | SynrGy | darxmurf: are you not interested in pursuing the dependency issue further, then? it may yet be solvable |
| 09:12.41 | SynrGy | darxmurf: i.e. you still have choices |
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| 09:13.34 | Haxxa | Is there any compelling reason to upgrade to debain jessie on a server if wheezy is still working - I would have to recompile everything so thinking I might leave for awhile |
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| 09:14.10 | SynrGy | Haxxa: wheezy remains supported for a while longer yet, and will likely have lts support once regular support ends. |
| 09:14.32 | themill | Haxxa: what do you have compiled? |
| 09:15.54 | Haxxa | themill not sure someone else set it up werid cron scripts and nasty programming are everywhere - but it works - If it's supported I would rather leave it |
| 09:16.43 | Haxxa | SynrG, I heard lts is community based rather than offical in a production enviroment its still pretty stable right? |
| 09:16.51 | SynrGy | Haxxa: nevertheless, start working on an upgrade plan. especially if someone else set it up. |
| 09:17.12 | planetmaker | Haxxa, "community-based" is funny in terms of debian which is basically completely community-based :) |
| 09:17.32 | SynrGy | yes :) |
| 09:17.36 | themill | sounds like a system that I'd rebuild from scratch so that I actually knew what was happening and that it was set up properly |
| 09:17.38 | Haxxa | planetmaker, so what does that even mean then? |
| 09:17.38 | SynrGy | i was just going to say ... |
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| 09:18.19 | SynrGy | Haxxa: it means it's an experiment run by a subset of its members, not involving core teams at this point. it will continue for as long as those members are still interested in doing it |
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| 09:18.23 | planetmaker | Haxxa, I just re-build my workplace computer from scratch two days ago using jessie instead of wheezy which it was before. Transition worked like a charm |
| 09:18.57 | planetmaker | So I would recommend indeed: setup a new system with jessie and try how that works with your existing tasks |
| 09:19.05 | Haxxa | even moving to systemd from werid init scripts is a pain - I will probally leave until end of year |
| 09:19.43 | Haxxa | then I will move - there are 34 vms - so I will need to set up apt cache and other annoying things too |
| 09:19.59 | SynrGy | Haxxa: sure, you have time to do that. but the longer you put it off, the more pressure you may be under to get it working if-and-when you're forced to deal with things. |
| 09:20.12 | planetmaker | ^^ |
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| 09:21.50 | SynrGy | Haxxa: as for "its still pretty stable right?" be careful with that term stable. by definition, lts doesn't change very much and is therefore quite stable :) |
| 09:22.47 | SynrGy | Haxxa: if you're really asking "does it get the attention it needs to fix security issues, etc.?" that's a different matter. so far, it seems to be working out well for those who depend on it, yes. |
| 09:23.18 | SynrGy | i.e. the lts team seems to be succeeding |
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| 09:26.14 | Haxxa | SynrG, some of the vms (main vms) are on jessie - a backup server which runs crashplan and vnc is on wheezy - its a massive pain messing with crashplan due to the configuration - I would have to recompile stuff on there |
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| 09:26.36 | Haxxa | Hopefully for now it will do |
| 09:26.46 | SynrGy | yeah. well, good luck, then. |
| 09:27.02 | aswin | Hi anyone using irssi? I cant scroll the chat history in irrsi |
| 09:27.08 | SynrGy | for your 'massive pain', try to automate as much as possible |
| 09:27.19 | equa | aswin: press pageup / pagedown |
| 09:27.34 | Haxxa | SynrG, Moar Enthusiasm |
| 09:27.34 | aswin | equa: That is not working |
| 09:28.05 | aswin | equa: When I press page up/down the commands only changing |
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| 09:28.18 | aswin | equa: I mean the previous commands |
| 09:28.21 | SynrGy | Haxxa: i.e. start now on a plan for reducing the hackage in the whole system, and scripted builds |
| 09:28.31 | equa | aswin: maybe alt or ctrl or esc with it |
| 09:28.57 | SynrGy | Haxxa: by the time you have time later in the year to deal with it, you'll at least be starting fresh with something sane |
| 09:29.54 | Haxxa | SynrG, I fully plan in november to create a fresh vm that is nice and stable. |
| 09:29.57 | SynrGy | Haxxa: consider if the custom compiled stuff could be packaged. that would reduce some of the pain |
| 09:30.14 | SynrGy | those builds could be done on a personal builder (pbuilder, sbuild, etc.) |
| 09:30.18 | Haxxa | For now as long as wheezy is still supported I will leave... |
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| 09:30.29 | SynrGy | and then deployed via local repository |
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| 09:32.07 | SynrGy | aswin: problem with wrong terminal type maybe? |
| 09:32.53 | SynrGy | echo $TERM |
| 09:32.58 | SynrGy | yay, pinged out :p |
| 09:33.07 | whytrytofly | http://sprunge.us/bDEe |
| 09:33.08 | equa | xd |
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| 09:34.46 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: do you have a debian support question? proper etiquette is to *supplement* your question with a link with supporting material, not ask it by just pasting a link |
| 09:35.18 | whytrytofly | sry |
| 09:35.23 | whytrytofly | i just realized the link was empty |
| 09:35.26 | whytrytofly | thats why i recreated it |
| 09:35.28 | whytrytofly | http://sprunge.us/BXAi |
| 09:35.37 | SynrGy | so what's your question? |
| 09:35.39 | equa | gives us some details first |
| 09:35.45 | whytrytofly | i wanna configure tmux |
| 09:35.52 | whytrytofly | and its working on my arch systems |
| 09:35.56 | whytrytofly | but on debian i dont get it running |
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| 09:36.04 | whytrytofly | so maybe the defualt config must be placed somehwere else |
| 09:36.06 | whytrytofly | or i dont know |
| 09:36.37 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: what does the man page say? |
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| 09:37.06 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: look at the bottom under FILES section |
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| 09:41.41 | whytrytofly | so yeah |
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| 09:41.48 | whytrytofly | SynrGy: my path is correct |
| 09:41.53 | whytrytofly | and the file itself allo is |
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| 09:42.29 | whytrytofly | BUT...there is supposed to be a config file in /etc/ |
| 09:42.32 | whytrytofly | which is not the case |
| 09:42.39 | SynrGy | supposed to be? |
| 09:42.48 | whytrytofly | according to the manual |
| 09:42.50 | SynrGy | i don't see anything in the doc that says there needs to be one |
| 09:42.58 | whytrytofly | oh okay |
| 09:42.58 | SynrGy | i see the doc says there *can* be one |
| 09:43.00 | whytrytofly | well |
| 09:43.02 | asteriskATmarmuD | I'm looking for a graphical tool to view and edit file ACLs rekursively. Nautilus + Eiciel lack support or recursive editing, same goes for webmin + module "fsacls" AFAIK. |
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| 09:43.24 | whytrytofly | SynrGy: yeah youre right |
| 09:43.57 | whytrytofly | but nevertheless, my .tmux.conf is not overriding the global settings, wherever they are made up |
| 09:44.26 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: your paste has '~' on the last line. is that a paste error or is that literally in the file? |
| 09:44.47 | jessu | Hello can someone help me how can I install virtusalbox guest additions for debian installed in virtualbox |
| 09:44.51 | jessu | debian 8.1 |
| 09:44.59 | whytrytofly | SynrGy: paste error |
| 09:45.17 | whytrytofly | vim "G" jumps to line 3 |
| 09:45.50 | jessu | package 'build-essential" has no installation candiate I get tat error |
| 09:45.56 | equa | jessu: just load the virtual guest addition cd on virtualbox then run the install |
| 09:46.15 | equa | jessu: apt install build-essential |
| 09:47.25 | jessu | equa: How// |
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| 09:47.26 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: i tried creating ~/.tmux.conf as per your paste and it works for me. i.e. M-a C (M is the Alt key) works & creates a new window |
| 09:47.35 | jessu | please be more clear please equa |
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| 09:47.52 | equa | jessu: open a terminal in your vbox apt-get install build-essential |
| 09:47.58 | SynrGy | ,v tmux |
| 09:47.59 | judd | Package: tmux on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.3-2+squeeze1; squeeze: 1.3-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1.6-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.6-2; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 1.8-3~bpo60+2; wheezy-backports: 1.9-6~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9-6; jessie-backports: 2.0-3~bpo8+1; sid: 2.0-3; stretch: 2.0-3 |
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| 09:48.10 | jessu | equa: that give me above erroe |
| 09:48.12 | whytrytofly | SynrGy: thanks, guessed so...the problem might be some different one (im trying to change it at my universities accound, gotta ask the root)! |
| 09:48.23 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: i'm using tmux 2.0-3 on sid, however |
| 09:48.32 | jessu | equa: package 'build-essential" has no installation candiate I get tat error |
| 09:48.32 | equa | jessu: let me get your sourcelist on paste.debian.net |
| 09:48.44 | jessu | Ok one sec |
| 09:48.46 | whytrytofly | 1.9 here |
| 09:49.09 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: are you sure the location of the file is correct? i.e. in $HOME? |
| 09:49.39 | whytrytofly | i put it into %HOME/my_username |
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| 09:50.08 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: not sure what %HOME is supposed to represent in that statement |
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| 09:51.15 | jessu | equa: paste.debian.net/ |
| 09:51.25 | equa | jessu: need a # |
| 09:51.27 | jessu | equa: paste.debian.net/285170 |
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| 09:52.11 | equa | jessu: i need the content of /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 09:52.34 | mads_ | Hello i'm trying to transfer a file from my PC to Debian server. The file i transfer includes the following character 'ø' which shows normal on my computer, but when opening the file on the server it is just a '?' character how to fix this? |
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| 09:54.02 | SynrGy | mads_: compare the output of 'locale' on your PC vs. on the server. sounds like an encoding problem |
| 09:54.05 | bilakos10 | mads_, maybe it due to the encoding used by your text editor? |
| 09:54.16 | whytrytofly | SynrGy: $HOME/my_username |
| 09:54.29 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: that still doesn't make sense to me ... |
| 09:54.36 | SynrGy | whytrytofly: $HOME *includes* your username |
| 09:54.44 | jessu | equa: paste.debian.net/285171 |
| 09:55.06 | whytrytofly | SynrGy: sorry yeah /home/my_username = $HOME |
| 09:55.27 | equa | !sourcelist |
| 09:55.39 | jessu | what equa ?? |
| 09:55.57 | equa | jessu: was talking to the bot. one sec. gonna make one for you on paste.debian.net |
| 09:56.15 | jessu | Ok thanks equa |
| 09:56.18 | equa | jessu: are you from the US? |
| 09:56.27 | jessu | No |
| 09:56.32 | mads_ | Bilakos10, i guess you are right i already checked the encoding on the server and as far as i know (correct me if i'm wrong) vi follows the servers locale settings. I just tried to open the file with vi instead and it looks fine there |
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| 09:56.39 | jessu | Why for mirror purpose? |
| 09:56.43 | equa | jessu: yes |
| 09:57.00 | Langley | I am at the Software selection in the installer. What is "Debian desktop environment" that is selected by default? |
| 09:57.00 | themill | dpkg: tell jessu about jessie sources.list |
| 09:57.13 | equa | ahh i needed the . |
| 09:57.28 | jessu | what? |
| 09:57.34 | jessu | I am not understanding |
| 09:57.41 | jessu | dpkg == bot? |
| 09:57.43 | dpkg | no idea, jessu |
| 09:57.46 | jessu | I got no msg |
| 09:57.47 | equa | jessu: read what dpkg is telling you in pm |
| 09:57.59 | jessu | !dpkg |
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| 09:57.59 | dpkg | dpkg is probably the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 09:58.04 | equa | i'll just do one for you on paste one sec |
| 09:58.13 | jessu | Ok thanks equa |
| 09:58.22 | jessu | but I got no personal msg |
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| 09:59.39 | Langley | No one knows...? |
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| 10:00.03 | Langley | Is it just GNOME too? |
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| 10:00.18 | Rust3dCor3 | dont know |
| 10:00.27 | Rust3dCor3 | i need to launch synaptic |
| 10:01.09 | jessu | "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" |
| 10:01.12 | jessu | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.14 | jessu | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:01.17 | jessu | these 3 lines to be added? |
| 10:01.21 | themill | Langley: yes, gnome. |
| 10:01.22 | equa | jessu: http://paste.debian.net/285172/ replace us with your country code |
| 10:01.26 | themill | jessu: yes, without the quotes. |
| 10:01.42 | Langley | themill: So choosing that or choosing the GNOME option is the same thing? |
| 10:01.46 | equa | oh and you can remove non-free contrib |
| 10:01.49 | Rust3dCor3 | Langley: is it task-desktop? |
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| 10:02.12 | Langley | Rust3dCor3: I think it is, what is that exactly? |
| 10:02.17 | jessu | Ok Thanks equa andd themill |
| 10:02.43 | jessu | One sec I will modify my souce with equa paste |
| 10:02.54 | Rust3dCor3 | Langley: looks like the task package installs any choosen window manager like gnome or xfce |
| 10:03.10 | Rust3dCor3 | Langley: how it works, do not ask me. I have no idea |
| 10:03.25 | Langley | Me neither, it's pretty confusing since it can be deselected |
| 10:03.25 | equa | jessu: change the us to your country code though. |
| 10:03.34 | miskatonic | Gnome and Xfce are NOT window managers at all |
| 10:03.44 | Langley | Oh well I'm gonna go with Xfce anyways |
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| 10:04.00 | Rust3dCor3 | there is also task-xfce-desktop . looks like it will install all xfce related apps |
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| 10:04.53 | jessu | ok equa and remove all the previous lines? |
| 10:05.06 | equa | jessu: yep |
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| 10:06.26 | miskatonic | gnome and xfce come with default window managers, but they are not window managers on their own right, and they can be used with other window managers as well, although often much less smoothly. Likewise , the default window managers perform often crappily in another environment. |
| 10:07.29 | SynrGy | miskatonic: i have not heard that it is possible to run another wm with gnome since gnome3 was released. used to be the case with gnome2, but i doubt if that works anymore |
| 10:08.20 | SynrGy | WMs for DEs tend to be tightly coupled to other components in the session these days (dconf, etc.) |
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| 10:09.06 | SynrGy | in an ideal world, these would all be interchangable units following standards (xdg, etc.) but we aren't living in an ideal world :) |
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| 10:09.18 | SynrGy | for an example of a DE that follows this philosophy still, see LXDE |
| 10:09.44 | jessu | equa: It's working Thanks a lot |
| 10:09.50 | equa | jessu: np |
| 10:09.55 | jessu | so after I install build-essential anything more to do? |
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| 10:10.06 | equa | jessu: just install your guest addition |
| 10:10.34 | jessu | install guest additions?/ Should I download them again/ |
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| 10:10.48 | lpapp | hi, what am I doing wrong? debootstrap --arch=i386 /home/lpapp/Projects/chroot/jessie http://debian.man.ac.uk |
| 10:10.51 | lpapp | /usr/bin/debootstrap: line 382: cd: http:/: No such file or directory |
| 10:10.54 | equa | jessu: u shouldn't have to download if you installed virtualbox from debian |
| 10:10.57 | jessu | in ubuntu I use something like sudo apt-get install virtualbox something like that |
| 10:11.19 | jessu | equa: yes I downloaded debian iso and installed in virtualbox |
| 10:12.01 | equa | jessu: ahh so your host isn't debian? |
| 10:12.10 | jessu | buils essentials succesfully installed |
| 10:12.20 | jessu | equa: windows is my host and guest is debian |
| 10:12.50 | equa | jessu: you might need to download the iso and load it as a cd in that case |
| 10:13.08 | jessu | equa: I dowloaded debian iso and installed |
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| 10:13.46 | jelly | lpapp: you forgot the suite parameter before the mirror, and the mirror URL doesn't look right either |
| 10:14.08 | equa | jessu: i mean for the guest addition |
| 10:14.27 | jessu | https://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?t=15679 |
| 10:14.32 | jessu | Should I follow that?/ |
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| 10:15.13 | jessu | equa: guest addition means like I need full screen of my guest and I should be able to copy form host to guest those two needed if fulfilled enough |
| 10:15.40 | lpapp | jelly: just followed this, https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 10:15.49 | jelly | lpapp: so... maybe more like: debootstrap --arch=i386 /home/lpapp/Projects/chroot/jessie jessie http://debian.man.ac.uk/debian |
| 10:15.57 | lpapp | so initially I had this, debootstrap --arch=i386 /home/lpapp/Projects/chroot/jessie http://http.debian.net/debian |
| 10:15.59 | equa | jessu: up to you. i would try to install guest addition to see if i need anything else |
| 10:16.00 | lpapp | /usr/bin/debootstrap: line 382: cd: http://http.debian.net: No such file or directory |
| 10:16.15 | equa | jessu: debian is pretty smart about it |
| 10:16.16 | lpapp | jelly: oh, the syntax changed? |
| 10:16.26 | jelly | lpapp: no, no it didn't. |
| 10:16.54 | jelly | lpapp: you're just missing the distro codename to install |
| 10:17.05 | lpapp | ah, I misoh, I was just missing the word jessie, thanks. |
| 10:17.09 | lpapp | yeah, thanks. |
| 10:17.35 | lpapp | E: No such script: http://http.debian.net/debian |
| 10:17.36 | lpapp | hmm. |
| 10:17.36 | jessu | equa: So I install guest additions by using apt-get install dkms build-essential linux-headers-generic ?? |
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| 10:18.00 | lpapp | E: No such script: http://debian.man.ac.uk/debian |
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| 10:18.16 | equa | jessu: just try to install guest addition. if any error(s), let me know |
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| 10:19.22 | SynrGy | jessu: check the syntax of your command :) |
| 10:19.24 | jessu | Ok equa thanks |
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| 10:19.26 | SynrGy | jelly* |
| 10:19.37 | jessu | SynrGy: ?/ |
| 10:19.46 | SynrGy | tab-completion error |
| 10:19.55 | Langley | Debian can't figure out my dual display setup :( There is only one "default" entry in Display settings |
| 10:20.00 | SynrGy | jelly: check the syntax of the command you gave lpapp. it's backwards |
| 10:20.01 | equa | gives SynrGy coffee |
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| 10:20.31 | SynrGy | jelly: suite first, then target. you have target suite |
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| 10:20.40 | jelly | right, sorry about that |
| 10:20.55 | miskatonic | another reason to boycott gnome3 |
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| 10:22.40 | jessu | equa: paste.debian.net/285184 again this error |
| 10:23.05 | jelly | lpapp: so...: debootstrap --arch=i386 jessie /home/lpapp/Projects/chroot/jessie http://debian.man.ac.uk/debian |
| 10:25.04 | equa | jessu: uname -a |
| 10:25.06 | SynrGy | miskatonic: boycott? nah. if you don't like it, don't use it. it's a fine default desktop imho, even if it doesn't satisfy my personal preference for desktops with more interchangeable parts (but the vast majority of users don't care) |
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| 10:26.29 | El_Presidente | hi, i have a bit of a problem with pam and ldap |
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| 10:27.09 | El_Presidente | i set up some users with phpldapadmin and ldapsearch offers them just nicely |
| 10:27.24 | El_Presidente | but when i try to do ssh user@localhost it does not work |
| 10:27.37 | petn-randall | darxmurf: I just stripped that dependency from the .deb, worked for me. |
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| 10:29.44 | jessu | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-cktll-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 |
| 10:29.49 | jessu | equa: ^^ |
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| 10:30.18 | equa | jessu: apt-get install dkms build-essential linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 10:33.33 | jessu | equa: everything is upgraded terminal says |
| 10:33.51 | jessu | 0 upgarded and 0 newly installed |
| 10:33.59 | lpapp | jelly: many thanks again |
| 10:34.01 | jessu | my os == old? |
| 10:34.04 | equa | jessu: you still need to install guest addition |
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| 10:34.12 | jessu | equa: how? |
| 10:34.18 | jessu | by command |
| 10:34.22 | jessu | or manually install |
| 10:34.29 | jessu | manually download something? |
| 10:35.57 | equa | jessu: those steps are to prepare your system. read down more on how to install Guest Additions |
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| 10:39.11 | jessu | for me nothing is mounted in cdrom |
| 10:39.25 | jessu | that's why I am asking should I download anything? |
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| 10:41.02 | equa | jessu: you need to download the iso for guest addition and mount it on your virtualbox. |
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| 10:41.35 | nidhoegger | Hello. How do I upgrade from jessie to stretch on my testing machine? Is it enough to replace "jessie" with "stretch" in the sources.list and do update && upgrade? |
| 10:41.43 | jessu | ok equa Thanks |
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| 10:43.39 | equa | nidhoegger: should be enough. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting |
| 10:44.44 | nidhoegger | thank you! |
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| 10:45.52 | equa | nidhoegger: np |
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| 10:47.32 | nidhoegger | shall I do dist-upgrade or simply upgrade? |
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| 10:48.01 | equa | nidhoegger: it says only if you still see some old packages. also a warning it will remove some packages |
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| 10:48.41 | nidhoegger | thanks. upgrade running |
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| 10:51.38 | jessu | equa: I tried google till now but I am not able to find iso for virtual machine instead I get virtual machine .deb files |
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| 10:58.19 | equa | jessu: should be on their website or you can try the one from debian. apt-get install virtualbox-guest-additions-iso |
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| 10:59.34 | jessu | equa: Yes it's working Thanks a lot |
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| 11:14.11 | jessu | equa: there?/ Sorry to disturb you again and again I downloaded via terminal but still they are not mounted in cd |
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| 11:16.21 | jessu | http://paste.debian.net/285196/ |
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| 11:20.02 | Night_Elf | jessu: I can see that the installation of the packages succeeded. I'd think all is normal there. |
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| 11:22.05 | jessu | Night_Elf: yes but still I can't get the full screen |
| 11:22.14 | equa | jessu: on the virtualbox menu. click device. insert guest addition cd image. |
| 11:25.05 | unborn | jessu, you will have to install guest additions to your virtualbox. once this is done - you may reboot the virtualbox installed os and whatever window you will open (i mean any size) it will work for you.. |
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| 11:25.27 | jessu | Yes after device I get some scripts ok cool |
| 11:25.30 | jessu | Thanks a lot |
| 11:25.37 | jessu | equa: |
| 11:25.39 | jessu | unborn: |
| 11:25.52 | jessu | Night_Elf: |
| 11:26.12 | Night_Elf | jessu: You're welcome |
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| 11:27.12 | jessu | one more doubt is there any such tool or program which can limit the cpu usage of a program? |
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| 11:27.37 | unborn | jessu, for virtual os? |
| 11:27.38 | equa | jessu: for debian or your virtualbox? |
| 11:28.06 | unborn | jessu, if yes then you can specify your specs in virtualbox it self.. how much ram, cpus etc.. |
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| 11:28.21 | darxmurf | petn-randall: thanks for the info, I did not even try ! |
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| 11:29.07 | darxmurf | in fact I was not aware of this possibility :-) |
| 11:29.17 | jaggied | where do I ask about nvidia-installer sitting there in a read(8,...) ? |
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| 11:30.12 | jessu | unborn: equa nor for any linux on anywhere |
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| 11:31.18 | equa | jessu: you can limit cpu, memory, and etc.... if you highlight the machine and click settings. if it's in debian, you can use cgroup or cpu limit |
| 11:31.59 | unborn | jessu, I was talking about virtualbox.. in linux.. if you are on mine os installed and running - well I never need this requirements before so - I am unable to help with this.. but on virtualbox I can |
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| 11:33.33 | jessu | equa: unborn I have cloud vm's where i have many cpu's I have certain processes which consume more cpu's. I need any tool or program so that I limit to say only 5 cpu etc |
| 11:33.45 | jessu | equa: cgourp?/ |
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| 11:34.12 | Night_Elf | jessu: Probably cgroups is what you need. They say it is what it does, I have never used it though. |
| 11:34.14 | equa | jessu: cgroup takes alot of reading. cpu limit might be easier for you |
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| 11:36.14 | equa | jessu: cpulimit -p pid -l 5 for 5% cpu. https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-limit-cpu-usage-of-a-process-with-cpulimit-debian-ubuntu |
| 11:36.39 | anoob | X does not work when I use fglrx: http://pastie.org/10307794 |
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| 11:38.23 | jessu | ok equa I will read it |
| 11:38.37 | LordDeath | php 5.4 will lose support in ~1 month https://secure.php.net/supported-versions.php |
| 11:38.43 | LordDeath | what does this mean for wheezy users? |
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| 11:39.16 | anoob | additional information for my fglrx/X issue: http://pastie.org/10307798 |
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| 11:41.56 | abrotman | LordDeath: patches can still be backported |
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| 11:42.53 | TheQuestionmark | Is it better to upgrade my owncloud from version7 to 8? I did read that version7 shall have some serious issues. |
| 11:43.29 | fireba11 | TheQuestionmark: owncloud updater is hold back untill 8.1 afaik .. so maybe wait a bit longer |
| 11:43.35 | LordDeath | so debian is usually continuing to support its included php version until the entire distro gets EOL? |
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| 11:44.46 | LordDeath | TheQuestionmark: I am running oc 8.1 from their own repos and usually it is better to wait a few days after a new release while monitoring their github issues |
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| 11:45.09 | LordDeath | but I have no idea about the owncloud packages in the debian repositories |
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| 11:45.23 | quarglipi_ | hi, what should i install to have wifi connection on my laptop? |
| 11:45.32 | TheQuestionmark | There's no owncloud package in Wheezy's repo from what I get. |
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| 11:45.41 | TheQuestionmark | Had to install it manually. |
| 11:45.51 | equa | quarglipi_: do you have usb or pci? |
| 11:45.59 | quarglipi_ | built in |
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| 11:46.18 | LordDeath | TheQuestionmark: there was one in the backports but they had to remove it due to packaging issues(?) |
| 11:46.27 | equa | quarglipi_: lspci -nn. output of your wifi card on paste.debian.net |
| 11:47.13 | LordDeath | I moved from oc 7 from the wheezy backports to oc 7 from the opensuse-build repo and then to 8 and 8.1 |
| 11:47.17 | LordDeath | still running wheezy |
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| 11:47.27 | quarglipi_ | equa: at the moment i'm on windows. I can't have internet connection via lan cable. So if I boot from usb live system I can't reach internet |
| 11:47.34 | TheQuestionmark | LordDeath: Huh... can't say that. |
| 11:47.55 | LordDeath | imho I liked the package from wheezy-backports more |
| 11:47.57 | TheQuestionmark | It's been too long by now to remember and I never had any issues either. |
| 11:48.12 | planetmaker | there is an owncloud at least in jessie, though |
| 11:48.20 | LordDeath | the official packages just extract everything into /var/www/owncloud |
| 11:48.25 | equa | quarglipi_: we can download it and put it on to a usb/cd/dvd and install it but i need to know the model first |
| 11:48.35 | LordDeath | and the debian package looked more organized |
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| 11:48.57 | TheQuestionmark | planetmaker: Yea... but I won't do a dist-upgrade on a server just for one package :> |
| 11:49.32 | LordDeath | I just hope that a dist-upgrade to jessie will not mess up my postfix + dovecot setup |
| 11:49.34 | TheQuestionmark | Backports doesn't feature owncloud either. |
| 11:49.37 | LordDeath | mail is hard :( |
| 11:50.21 | masterkorp | LordDeath: i use postfix, it was clean |
| 11:50.30 | TheQuestionmark | Mail as in running a mail-server or Mail as in CLI mail clients? |
| 11:50.40 | LordDeath | as in running a mail server |
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| 11:50.45 | armin | LordDeath: it shouldn't, but having backups doesn't hurt. |
| 11:50.58 | TheQuestionmark | Beats me, I haven't messed around with this jazz yet. |
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| 11:51.48 | LordDeath | armin: my VPS provider does daily snapshots of my server :D |
| 11:51.50 | quarglipi_ | equa: Ralink RT3290 |
| 11:52.12 | TheQuestionmark | Found a nice small German provider that values security a lot which makes me rather pay 12⬠per year rather than bleeding when setting up things myself. |
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| 11:52.21 | quarglipi_ | Ralink RT3290 802.11bgn Wi-Fi Adapter |
| 11:52.33 | LordDeath | TheQuestionmark: posteo? |
| 11:52.56 | equa | quarglipi_: you're on jessie? |
| 11:53.03 | quarglipi_ | yes |
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| 11:53.16 | equa | quarglipi_: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-ralink |
| 11:53.19 | TheQuestionmark | LordDeath: Eactly. |
| 11:53.22 | TheQuestionmark | +x |
| 11:53.43 | equa | quarglipi_: click on the all to download the firmware |
| 11:54.01 | TheQuestionmark | After the paranoids from overseas made Lavabit go to hell because of Snowden, this was the only wise choice. |
| 11:54.08 | quarglipi_ | equa: equa Thank you |
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| 11:54.22 | quarglipi_ | i try it |
| 11:54.34 | TheQuestionmark | Of course I also have a Google account... but I don't trust those guys here either. |
| 11:55.09 | equa | quarglipi_: during the installation insert it for the driver or after installation do dpkg -i <yourpackage> |
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| 11:56.34 | LordDeath | yeah, posteo looks nice but I used my own email server as a reason to learn more about setting up a Linux server. In German I would express it like this: http://false-friends.crellin.de/2012/06/der-weg-ist-das-ziel-auf-englisch.html |
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| 11:57.25 | LordDeath | just ssh-ing into a new machine without having any goals is imho the wrong approach to learn things |
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| 11:58.44 | planetmaker | TheQuestionmark, you should consider a distupgrade anyway :) |
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| 12:04.32 | jessu | in my newly installed debian even though %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL line is there in sodeurs lis it says jesse is not in sodeurs list |
| 12:04.40 | jessu | What might be the problem? |
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| 12:06.12 | equa | jessu: have you added yourself to sudo? if yes, then relog into the account |
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| 12:07.34 | jessu | yes |
| 12:08.03 | TheQuestionmark | LordDeath: I've no goals in particular, I take whatever I can get. Probably that's also why I still sucks at Linux when reading about all the weird crazy things people can do themselve. |
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| 12:08.17 | Artej | hi |
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| 12:08.34 | Artej | does anybody know where debian stores downloaded shit? I want to clean up |
| 12:08.38 | TheQuestionmark | planetmaker: As long as Wheezy is still oldstable and LTS on top of that... I don't see any reasons for doing so. |
| 12:08.40 | Artej | like decorations and stuff |
| 12:09.16 | abrotman | decorations? |
| 12:09.41 | abrotman | jessu: your user isn't in the sudo group |
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| 12:10.11 | TheQuestionmark | Artej: Packages? Try /var/cache/apt/archives |
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| 12:10.27 | abrotman | packages don't sound like decorations |
| 12:10.42 | Artej | TheQuestionmark: no, stuff from online sources like decorations and icon themes |
| 12:10.48 | TheQuestionmark | Ahh... |
| 12:11.46 | TheQuestionmark | $HOME/.icons or $HOME/.local or $HOME/.fonts for example. |
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| 12:11.57 | TheQuestionmark | That is, if you want these for yourself. |
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| 12:12.13 | Artej | yes |
| 12:12.18 | jessu | http://paste.debian.net/285217/ |
| 12:12.25 | jessu | abrotman: equa |
| 12:12.25 | Artej | some desktop decoration segfaults settings |
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| 12:12.40 | abrotman | equa? |
| 12:12.45 | equa | jessu: relog. log out of your account then log back in |
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| 12:12.51 | abrotman | oh |
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| 12:13.11 | Artej | I downgraded from experimental where everything worked to testing and some residual decoration is segfaulting |
| 12:13.15 | abrotman | jessu: type "groups' to see |
| 12:13.25 | equa | he added himself |
| 12:13.38 | abrotman | I meant that he'll see that shell doesn't have the new group yet |
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| 12:14.39 | equa | he's new to linux so wouldn't understand why it's not showing up after being added |
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| 12:15.30 | abrotman | maybe don't use sudo then .. |
| 12:15.56 | equa | i'll just leave that up to him |
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| 12:19.46 | TheQuestionmark | su vs sudo is the most awesome debate I know. |
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| 12:25.15 | jessu | equ it worked after retsart |
| 12:25.25 | equa | jessu: you just needed to relog |
| 12:25.32 | jessu | yes |
| 12:25.42 | jessu | I resterted also |
| 12:25.43 | equa | if it was a cli, do exit. if you got a DE, log out and log back in |
| 12:25.55 | jessu | it's wporking now |
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| 12:26.57 | equa | jessu: have fun with your debian os |
| 12:27.07 | jessu | Thanks equa |
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| 12:31.42 | TheQuestionmark | Debian ftw. |
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| 12:40.05 | jaggied | where do I get nvidia nonfree help? |
| 12:40.29 | abrotman | #nvidia perhaps |
| 12:40.41 | equa | jaggied: lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 12:40.48 | jaggied | and they'll probably yap about not providing debian help |
| 12:41.20 | jaggied | I was doing an install of the non-free drivers, and it's running nvidia-xconfig which is sitting trying to read from the pty (/dev/pts/8) .. but I can't seem to get any output to it |
| 12:41.22 | abrotman | won't know til you ask |
| 12:41.37 | abrotman | you could ask them to open source the entire driver :) |
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| 12:42.01 | equa | jaggied: you installed the driver and just need to make an xorg.conf? |
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| 12:42.54 | BluesKaj | Hiyas all |
| 12:43.13 | equa | hello BluesKaj |
| 12:43.36 | BluesKaj | hi equa |
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| 12:43.49 | jaggied | equa, I wanted to upgrade the driver, and was trying to use a packaged version |
| 12:44.25 | jaggied | during that process, it tries to uninstall the old version |
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| 12:44.42 | equa | jaggied: are you using the one from debian or the one from nvidia.com? |
| 12:44.48 | jaggied | (it asks, and I said yes.. so it ran nvidia-installer --uninstall) |
| 12:45.03 | jaggied | equa, I believe I currently have the one from nvidia (a .run file that you run by hand) installed |
| 12:45.39 | equa | jaggied: everything went fine? |
| 12:46.06 | TheQuestionmark | abrotman: That was a good one. |
| 12:46.14 | TheQuestionmark | But at least their drivers work properly. |
| 12:46.20 | jaggied | no, the term is just sitting there not accepting input (well, input echos back, but it doesn't make it to the nvidia-xconfig program) |
| 12:46.25 | abrotman | I wouldn't call a closed driver like that working properly |
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| 12:46.37 | TheQuestionmark | I refuse to give AMD a try until their Linux drivers have about the quality of the Windows ones. |
| 12:46.41 | nimo | hi, why is bad to install sid packages while you're on stable? |
| 12:46.51 | TheQuestionmark | Or better yet, work as solid as the AMD GPU inside of the PS4 :þ |
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| 12:47.04 | TheQuestionmark | nimo: Different dependicies. |
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| 12:47.14 | jaggied | equa: I'm not sure where that input is going, but that read(8,) doesn't move forward |
| 12:47.21 | nimo | TheQuestionmark: what if dependencies are fine? |
| 12:47.41 | equa | jaggied: you should use the one from debian, not recommended to use the one from nvidia. i need to know where you are stucked at... a picture might help |
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| 12:48.19 | TheQuestionmark | nimo: It's still risky because Sid stuff _can be_ broken due to its rolling nature. |
| 12:48.26 | TheQuestionmark | At least I wouldn't give it a try. |
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| 12:48.55 | abrotman | nimo: dependency failures can lead to serious packaging databaes issues |
| 12:49.06 | abrotman | dpkg: tell nimo about ssb |
| 12:49.37 | Artej | dpkg tell me a joke |
| 12:49.46 | Artej | :( |
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| 12:50.42 | equa | Artej: /msg dpkg with unknown keywords |
| 12:52.22 | jaggied | equa, I'm in tty now.. no x.. :) http://paste.debian.net/285222/ |
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| 12:53.01 | equa | jaggied: just run nvidia-xconfig as root |
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| 12:53.21 | jaggied | k .. i'll kill this one |
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| 12:54.11 | equa | jaggied: looks like it's done uninstalling, now install the driver |
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| 12:55.41 | jaggied | afk . family |
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| 12:56.17 | jaggied | thanks a lot, equa |
| 12:56.27 | equa | np |
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| 12:57.37 | BluesKaj | jaggied, which nvidia-driver are you installing ? |
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| 13:01.06 | equa | he wanted to use a newer version than the one from debian so its from nvidia website |
| 13:01.51 | abrotman | (which isn't supported here) |
| 13:02.23 | equa | told him it's not recommended |
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| 13:04.42 | phale | is it possible to run a program in the background, so I can use keyboard input in it from any program that is currently in focus? |
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| 13:05.03 | BluesKaj | equa, not a good idea, next kernel update and poof , black screen |
| 13:05.05 | equa | phale: from a terminal just add & |
| 13:05.28 | phale | equa: thats not really what I meant |
| 13:06.27 | phale | equa: take a look at this script http://codepad.org/ugKaxJQR |
| 13:06.40 | equa | phale: are you making a program to read keyboard input? |
| 13:06.43 | TheQuestionmark | phale: screen, tmux, byobo... personally, I like screen itself the most. |
| 13:06.55 | phale | equa: I already did that |
| 13:07.08 | phale | I just want to put keyboard input in it from any window thats currently in focus |
| 13:07.20 | phale | if I mouse over the terminal where i'm running the script then it will only work |
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| 13:07.24 | phale | but I dont want that |
| 13:07.28 | phale | I want it so it works globally |
| 13:07.41 | phale | Sorry for my bad wording. |
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| 13:09.58 | equa | phale: sounds alot like a keylogger... can't help you there |
| 13:10.14 | phale | not really, just moves the mouse depending on input "q, w" |
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| 13:10.21 | phale | but yeah kind of |
| 13:12.00 | lesta | TheQuestionmark: did you have a opinion for everything? |
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| 13:14.12 | TheQuestionmark | lesta: To much free time and also without taste I'd just keep using Windows and buy those fancy iPhones like everyone else does until they die. |
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| 13:22.18 | nimo | a good question is how do you remove everything build-dep installed after compiling is done? '-' |
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| 13:24.50 | Shadur | arghs and kicks phpmyadmin in the workdamnyou. |
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| 13:28.26 | BluesKaj | nimo, autremove? |
| 13:28.32 | nimo | not working |
| 13:28.35 | nimo | i copy/pasted |
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| 13:28.46 | BluesKaj | err autoremove even |
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| 13:29.34 | BluesKaj | sudo apt-get autoremove , for capy and paste |
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| 13:50.21 | JeroenDL | My kali has gnome-terminal as its terminal, but when I open the terminal, Iâm pretty sure Iâm in /bin/sh. The shortcut says âgnome-terminalâ. Is gnome-terminal failing and falling back? How can I troubleshoot this? |
| 13:51.59 | towo^work | !kali |
| 13:52.00 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 13:52.21 | JeroenDL | Alright. Sorry. Thanks |
| 13:52.41 | JeroenDL | Although I highly doubt Kali has anything to do with it, but Iâll check over there. |
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| 13:56.48 | laranjada | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:56.49 | laranjada | Uptime: 2h 36m 23s ** |
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| 13:57.08 | themill | laranjada: please don't |
| 13:57.09 | laranjada | oops |
| 13:57.13 | themill | dpkg: tell hubert_th about root |
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| 14:03.46 | jelly | JeroenDL: the terminal emulator is a component responsible for creating a tty interface and showing it in a window. You still need a separate process to run in a terminal emulator that will do something, and that's usually an interactive shell like /bin/sh |
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| 14:05.05 | syntroPi | does someone has experience with amavis in creating outgoing DKIM signatures? I have a problem with it creating double headers... |
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| 14:07.17 | giuseppe_ | hello everyone... i was looking this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QYcUN1QvFU&list=PLPvef-Dolyl9UFiezasutvYdB-7HNUjy6&index=1 and noticed that at 10:19 he has like icons in the configuration file of i3.... how is possible ? since this is only a text file |
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| 14:07.56 | nimo | ok, let's say you change a daemon configuration while a debian machine is down. will the new configuration used by the daemon? or systemd prevent that? |
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| 14:08.33 | syntroPi | giuseppe_, maybe its utf8? |
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| 14:11.01 | giuseppe_ | utf8? ok how do i set vi to read utf8 and how do i create custom characters ? |
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| 14:12.24 | giuseppe_ | syntroPi |
| 14:12.28 | giuseppe_ | read above |
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| 14:15.35 | syntroPi | giuseppe_, you dont create them, you find the ones you want to use and simply copy and paste them |
| 14:15.57 | giuseppe_ | syntroPi, how is it possible that steam has its own icon ??!! wtf |
| 14:16.07 | giuseppe_ | ,look at the video... he has a steam icon... lolò |
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| 14:16.11 | syntroPi | hmm good question i dont know |
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| 14:17.42 | syntroPi | maybe his theme uses a custom font |
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| 14:18.53 | gerforce | hi, i have created a vpn server. Now i can connect with my android phone. But i can not connect with my laptop(debian) using network-manager-pptpd-gnome. |
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| 14:24.44 | ChrisH | gerforce: what hind of VPN did you setup? and PPTPD is considered not-secure! |
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| 14:28.42 | gerforce1 | ChrisH: just lose connection. Did you get my message? |
| 14:29.45 | petn-randall | gerforce1: No, we didn't get your message. |
| 14:30.06 | BluesKaj | gerforce1, ChrisH said : what hind of VPN did you setup? and PPTPD is considered not-secure! |
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| 14:31.10 | BluesKaj | no point , his connection is dropping every few mins |
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| 14:31.25 | gerforce1 | pptpd. |
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| 14:31.52 | gerforce1 | i am new. So security is not concerned much now |
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| 14:32.54 | petn-randall | gerforce1: get a working connection to chat. |
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| 14:34.04 | gerforce1 | petn-randall: now it's ok |
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| 14:34.53 | petn-randall | gerforce1: Setting up a secure VPN is just as much work as setting up a insecure one. Why go with the latter? |
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| 14:35.54 | gerforce1 | petn-randall: i mean one thing at a time. I want to focus on that now. |
| 14:35.56 | petn-randall | gerforce1: There a good howtos and documentation on how to set up openvpn. |
| 14:37.05 | gerforce1 | petn-randall: ok i will look into it. But i still want to know the question i am asking. |
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| 14:38.19 | petn-randall | gerforce1: We'd have to debug it, and whatever we'll find won't apply to openvpn. |
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| 14:40.14 | gerforce1 | petn-randall: ok. i will try to use openvpn from scratch. Thanks anyway. |
| 14:40.46 | ChrisH | gerforce1: use certifcates no pre shared key as you want to connect with at least 2 clients. |
| 14:41.00 | johnfg | Sorry to have to keep bringing my problem up, but this is the 4th day, problem unsolved. |
| 14:41.34 | petn-randall | johnfg: Ask your question. |
| 14:41.51 | johnfg | After doing an aptitude update, I did an upgrade. All installed except mysql-server-5.5, which apparently will neither install nor start cleanly. |
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| 14:42.10 | themill | johnfg: upgrading from what to what? |
| 14:42.19 | johnfg | petn-randall: Yup, I'm giving a bit of history here. Lot's of pastes over the last 3 days. |
| 14:42.50 | gerforce1 | ChrisH: all right |
| 14:43.24 | johnfg | I'm running wheezy, and was just doing my regular upgrade. At this point, I'm not sure what the previous mysql was, maybe 5.1? But never had any problems with it, ever since original wheezy install, and all other versions before that. |
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| 14:45.56 | Brigo | johnfg, can you start the mysql server from command line or start the service? |
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| 14:47.20 | johnfg | Here are the errors that I get: http://dpaste.com/34JCAQ0 |
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| 14:47.30 | johnfg | Brigo: No, I can't. |
| 14:47.44 | Brigo | johnfg, i think that is the problem you have to solve. |
| 14:48.30 | Brigo | if logs say nothing about the problem, start the daemon in debug mode. |
| 14:49.19 | johnfg | Brigo: The logs don't say anything. Since it won't start normally, how do I start it in debug mode? |
| 14:49.20 | petn-randall | johnfg: Can you provide us the pastes of it failing to install, and the output of 'apt-cache policy' as well ass 'apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.5'? |
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| 14:49.49 | johnfg | petn-randall: You saw what I just pasted? http://dpaste.com/34JCAQ0 |
| 14:49.56 | johnfg | But yes, I'll do the other. |
| 14:50.25 | Brigo | johnfg, about mysql logs: http://www.pontikis.net/blog/how-and-when-to-enable-mysql-logs |
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| 14:51.12 | themill | johnfg: did you once have a "user" table in a database? is it now missing? |
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| 14:51.47 | petn-randall | s/ass/as/, btw |
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| 14:54.25 | johnfg | http://dpaste.com/1ERJ4Q9 The first just hung, but I'll try again. |
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| 14:54.56 | johnfg | themill: No, no "user", but there are users, e.g., johnfg. |
| 14:55.12 | johnfg | None of this occured before this latest upgrade. |
| 14:55.17 | themill | the mysql database should have a table "user". |
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| 14:56.06 | johnfg | themill: Sorry, I missed about the table, and I'm sure it's there. But, since I can't get it to start...? |
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| 14:56.24 | Fjorgynn | Hey I get the error /var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.postinst and such |
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| 14:56.31 | Fjorgynn | and tried to remove the systemd-journal group |
| 14:56.33 | Brigo | johnfg, did yo check my link about mysql logs? |
| 14:56.37 | Fjorgynn | but it dowsn't work |
| 14:56.39 | themill | johnfg: "find /var/lib/mysql" might help |
| 14:56.53 | themill | dpkg: tell Fjorgynn about doesn't work |
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| 14:57.12 | johnfg | here's the other: http://dpaste.com/15H0A4A |
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| 14:58.47 | johnfg | No, there's not a table user. |
| 14:59.10 | themill | do you have backups of that directory structure? |
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| 15:02.47 | Brigo | johnfg, about the mysql error, a couple of thing you can try: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12106727/mysql-copying-tables-files-gives-rise-to-error-1017-hy000-cant-find-file |
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| 15:05.06 | petn-randall | johnfg: You have backups of the DB, right? You could simply wipe /var/lib/mysql, then reinstall mysql-server-5.5, then restore the databases. |
| 15:05.55 | petn-randall | johnfg: But from the pastes you showed in the past, at least the apt data was corrupted, since it listed several packages as not containing any files. |
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| 15:09.51 | Belinxi | hi, openssh server isn't starting on reboot ever since jessie update. log says "missing privilege separation directory: /var/run/sshd". all my mounts are correct. |
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| 15:11.44 | themill | johnfg, petn-randall: if files are just going missing from the filesystem then this could well be part of the problem |
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| 15:22.29 | guestwhatever | Hello. I installed debian 8.1 stable with the xfce desktop environment option. Now my system has libreoffice and I don't want it. Removing the metapackage doesn't trigger any removals. How do I get rid of libreoffice? |
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| 15:23.22 | petn-randall | guestwhatever: 'apt-get autoremove' might do the trick. Double-check which packages it wants to remove, though. |
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| 15:24.19 | guestwhatever | petn-randall: OK thanks |
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| 15:26.21 | guestwhatever | dang, doesn't work |
| 15:27.15 | petn-randall | guestwhatever: 'dpkg -l | grep libreoffice' will list any remaining packages installed, you can then remove them individually. |
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| 15:28.47 | guestwhatever | petn-randall, yeah, but thats the bruteforce option, I wondered if there's a better, automated way to do this. thanks anyway |
| 15:28.59 | head8debian | guestwhatever: Try sudo apt-get remove libreoffice* |
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| 15:29.16 | head8debian | But watch the stuff it wants to remove. |
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| 15:30.07 | head8debian | Yes, with the askerisk. |
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| 15:32.45 | guestwhatever | head8debian, IMO that's still bruteforce, only facilitated. I was thinking more like how when you install something all the dependencies and suggested packages get installed, and how all of that gets uninstalled when you uninstall the main package in aptitude. But what you said was something I didn't know, thanks |
| 15:33.15 | guestwhatever | btw I did try tthis in aptitude |
| 15:33.35 | head8debian | I guess it matters on what you consider bruteforce, but its the only decent way i know of. |
| 15:34.25 | themill | You'd need to tell apt to not keep packages on the basis of recommends and suggests; it's likely to remove more than you want |
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| 15:34.49 | head8debian | probably. |
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| 15:37.11 | petn-randall | head8debian: That is not brute-force, it's called "removing things you ask for to get removed". |
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| 15:38.13 | guestwhatever | I was the one who used the term |
| 15:38.22 | guestwhatever | ...first |
| 15:38.47 | petn-randall | guestwhatever: oh yeah, my bad. Highlighted the wrong person. |
| 15:39.06 | themill | (also, regexps not globs) |
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| 15:39.34 | head8debian | :) |
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| 15:40.27 | Zumochi | In Jessie, why is it that if I try to install postfix, it installs postfix-mysql, postfix-pgsql, postfix-ldap and more besides it? There doesn't seem to be a package postfix-core or something; I don't need mysql/pgsql support |
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| 15:40.38 | guestwhatever | Maybe bruteforce doesn't quite cover it, but I feel it' the manual way to do something, and exactly the kind of thing a package manager application should worry about on your behalf |
| 15:40.47 | guestwhatever | *it's |
| 15:41.24 | themill | guestwhatever: what I said. |
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| 15:42.13 | petn-randall | guestwhatever: I think you just spent more time discussing it than doing it. Some libreoffice packages are probably being depended on by other packages, which is why apt-get autoremove won't remove them. |
| 15:42.16 | themill | Zumochi: perhaps you could pastebin the command and entire output of what you're trying to do |
| 15:42.49 | petn-randall | guestwhatever: Oh, yeah, pretty much what themill already said. |
| 15:42.58 | Zumochi | uh oops |
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| 15:43.10 | Zumochi | themill: thanks, I looked again and I'm blind; it suggests those packages |
| 15:43.14 | themill | :) |
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| 15:48.15 | guestwhatever | petn-randall, If the discussion had resulted in a better way to do this, I would have profited every time I would have to do it to a metapackage that acted up. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. And may I, for the sake of a recent example, attract your attention to the systemd discussion, which probably contains more text than the code of systemd? |
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| 15:55.37 | themill | guestwhatever: lucky I answered your question then, isn't it. |
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| 15:57.09 | guestwhatever | themill, it was not what I expected but I'm not going to take the deficiencies of package management apps out on someone who is trying to help |
| 15:57.57 | themill | umm... apt* can do exactly what you asked for |
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| 15:59.52 | guestwhatever | apt*? does that mean using an asterisk in apt? |
| 16:00.06 | themill | no |
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| 16:00.24 | guestwhatever | the literal word turns up nothing in google or aptitude |
| 16:00.35 | equa | apt-mark *hint hint* |
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| 16:01.02 | guestwhatever | OK thanks |
| 16:01.36 | themill | and telling apt not to keep packages because of suggests or recommends. |
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| 16:24.18 | nodiscc | hi, I have a 2 repos (A and B) set in my sources.list |
| 16:24.34 | nodiscc | how can I tell if package foo is available in A, B or both? |
| 16:25.16 | mtn | nodiscc, you can use the apt-cache command |
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| 16:25.22 | nodiscc | I have tried aptitude search 'foo ?origin(A)' |
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| 16:26.42 | TJ- | nodiscc: "apt-cache policy <package>" |
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| 16:28.23 | nodiscc | TJ-: mtn: thank you |
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| 16:32.58 | sheap | I installed CentOS on intel integrated RAID and it was able to create an LVM on the raid disk (md127) and install grub to the first partition (md127p1). How would I do this in a Debian Preseed? |
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| 16:50.31 | OhYash | Is anybody here? |
| 16:51.16 | Moh4n | Me here |
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| 16:51.53 | OhYash | I want to ask to ask a question. :D |
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| 16:52.13 | Moh4n | All other are sleeping (i think) |
| 16:52.25 | Moh4n | ask :) |
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| 16:52.31 | OhYash | Nice |
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| 16:52.52 | Moh4n | i don't know if I help u |
| 16:53.03 | Moh4n | but, ask guy |
| 16:53.14 | OhYash | Hows mate panel for a compiz standalone deaktop?. Im looking for a panel with systray and indicator support |
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| 16:59.26 | Fyr | does Jessie use systemd? |
| 16:59.31 | Fyr | (by default) |
| 16:59.35 | Fyr | +ffmpeg? |
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| 17:00.39 | Nestia | Hello, I'm trying to use a local repository for some packages that will install a lot of computers in my LAN |
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| 17:01.05 | jordanm | Fyr: +systemd, -ffmpeg |
| 17:01.12 | Nestia | The thing is some of the packages are not working and I don't know why |
| 17:01.24 | Nestia | for example, openjdk-7-jre |
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| 17:01.44 | Fyr | jordanm, god bless Ian and his ex-wife. |
| 17:01.45 | Nestia | can anyone help me to understand why ? thanks |
| 17:01.56 | Fyr | I'm migrating on Debian. =)) |
| 17:02.00 | jordanm | !tell Nestia about doesn't work |
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| 17:04.00 | Nestia | jordanm, I'm doing --> dpkg-scanpackages binary-amd64 | gzip -9c > binary-amd64/Packages.gz |
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| 17:04.30 | Nestia | the thing is some of the packages in binary-amd64 works, and others do not |
| 17:04.46 | Nestia | how can I debug that ? |
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| 17:05.04 | Moh4n | Nestia, u got some error from output? |
| 17:05.27 | Nestia | no, it's just in the clients they cannot find some packages |
| 17:05.35 | Nestia | nor install |
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| 17:07.33 | Moh4n | are all set in soucelist? |
| 17:07.45 | Moh4n | sourcelist* |
| 17:07.59 | Nestia | in source.list I have the address of the local server |
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| 17:09.04 | Nestia | deb http://192.168.200.184 wheezy main |
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| 17:09.25 | Nestia | and for example, apt-get install htop works |
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| 17:09.43 | Nestia | but openjdk-7-jre no :S |
| 17:10.22 | Moh4n | all the packages are in the same place? |
| 17:10.31 | Moh4n | in your local server? |
| 17:10.37 | Nestia | yes |
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| 17:14.37 | Moh4n | try type your local ip from the server (i think is -> http://192.168.200.184) on a browser, what u see? |
| 17:14.51 | Nestia | it works |
| 17:15.11 | Nestia | I can navigate to all files |
| 17:15.25 | Moh4n | like this: http://www.tecmint.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/Setup-Local-Repository-16-620x304.jpg ??? |
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| 17:17.01 | Nestia | Moh4n, not the same folder |
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| 17:17.14 | no_gravity | I often have libre office hang forever while opening a file from a directory that is mounted via sshfs. Is there a way to find out what is going on? |
| 17:17.15 | subz3r0 | hi folks |
| 17:17.16 | Nestia | but mine, that is debs/binary-amd64 |
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| 17:18.46 | subz3r0 | havin a strange issue here. everytime when i reboot my debian 8 (virtualized) the sound meter is set to 0. but i want it been saved to the status i changed it before reboot. any ideas? |
| 17:19.18 | Moh4n | Nestia, the problem seems the path (or way) |
| 17:19.58 | Moh4n | for other problems u certainly got some error in output |
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| 17:20.43 | subz3r0 | fyi: its debian 8 using gnome shell. its just annoying to switch the volume up from mute again and again |
| 17:20.45 | Nestia | gonna recheck it |
| 17:20.48 | Nestia | thanks |
| 17:21.12 | Moh4n | subz3r0, what are your environment? |
| 17:21.17 | jessu | equa: there? |
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| 17:21.32 | subz3r0 | found a solution with "alsactl store" but there is no alsactl on my system |
| 17:21.39 | subz3r0 | Moh4n: excuse me? |
| 17:21.41 | equa | jessu: yes, but feel free to ask the channel |
| 17:21.46 | subz3r0 | DE? |
| 17:21.51 | subz3r0 | gnome shell |
| 17:22.08 | jessu | equa: yes |
| 17:22.36 | jessu | I mentioned yppur name becuse you answered me before otherwise I ask in channel |
| 17:23.14 | equa | jessu: just ask in the channel. i'll respond if i'm around. |
| 17:23.52 | subz3r0 | Moh4n: any suggestions? :) |
| 17:24.16 | jessu | hoiw can I use nice tool to pre-define cpu limit? |
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| 17:24.57 | Moh4n | 1 min |
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| 17:25.40 | linuxthefish | how do i stop my laptop sleeping when i close the lid? |
| 17:25.42 | linuxthefish | no GUI... |
| 17:26.02 | equa | jessu: explain please. you want to set a cpu limit on a process you don't know about yet? |
| 17:26.29 | Moh4n | subz3r0, this link (http://www.webupd8.org/2009/06/sound-muted-after-restart-in-ubuntu.html) helps? |
| 17:26.36 | subz3r0 | linuxthefish: check for acpi features... |
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| 17:26.56 | linuxthefish | i only have /etc/acpi/events/powerbtn-acpi-support for the power button |
| 17:27.18 | subz3r0 | Moh4n: there is no alsactl on my system |
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| 17:27.45 | mvdk | stretch (testing) user here. I need lmms, but it's not in the stretch repositories. It's in jessie though. Do I really have to add jessie to sources.list, update, and then install lmms? |
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| 17:28.12 | jessu | equa: I have two cases 1) Set cpu limit to user or 2) particular process |
| 17:28.30 | subz3r0 | Moh4n: and no fun to install it. i follow the kiss prinzipal |
| 17:28.37 | linuxthefish | oh lol turns out i can unplug the lid sensor thing |
| 17:28.53 | subz3r0 | since sound is working when i turn off mute, no fun to install extra dependencies |
| 17:29.32 | Moh4n | the problem is: the sound card/driver lost the volume level and returns for 0 after reboot. right? |
| 17:29.56 | equa | jessu: if you want per user, cgroups is a better choice. |
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| 17:35.15 | Moh4n | if i'm correct, subz3r0 your problem is a config, the system was configured to mute in the boot, u just have to change this |
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| 17:37.31 | Moh4n | the file here /home/gu/.local/share/gnome-shell/extensions could help to solve (source: http://askubuntu.com/questions/156091/where-is-the-gnome-shell-extension-configuration-file) |
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| 17:38.23 | Moh4n | subz3r0, try open this file and look for sound configurations |
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| 17:39.48 | equa | jessu: take a look at this http://blog.scoutapp.com/articles/2014/11/04/restricting-process-cpu-usage-using-nice-cpulimit-and-cgroups |
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| 17:57.20 | sarkis | hey all - why wouldn't an upstart service show up in sudo service --status-all |
| 17:57.36 | sarkis | its one i have created and ran initctl reload-configuration - i assume it should have shown up after that? |
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| 19:00.16 | Tau | i need to burn an iso image onto a usb stick. |
| 19:00.25 | Tau | which is the graphical program that could do that? |
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| 19:05.54 | Tau | unetbootin is not available for debian jessie. |
| 19:06.02 | Tau | i try to download with apt-get it cant find that package. |
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| 19:09.21 | hassoon | Tau: get it manually in debian's site, the wheezy's version |
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| 19:10.05 | hassoon | Tau: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/unetbootinhttps://packages.debian.org/wheezy/unetbootin |
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| 19:10.28 | jelly | ,v unetbootin |
| 19:10.29 | judd | Package: unetbootin on amd64 -- squeeze: 471-2; wheezy: 575-1; sid: 608-1 |
| 19:10.36 | jelly | !unetbootin |
| 19:10.36 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 19:11.12 | Juslintek | Hi, I have a problem with 0755 and 0777, how to make 0755 allow write permission on php per user? |
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| 19:11.17 | guest33416 | Hi. Can someone remind the exact name of the Linux kernel package in Debian? |
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| 19:12.18 | jelly | guest33416: that'd be something like linux-image-$(uname -r) in general |
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| 19:12.57 | guest33416 | ,v linux-image |
| 19:12.58 | judd | No package named 'linux-image' was found in amd64. |
| 19:13.08 | guest33416 | ,v linux-image* |
| 19:13.09 | judd | No package named 'linux-image*' was found in amd64. |
| 19:13.33 | guest33416 | Hmm. Can you tell me what kernel version 8.0 uses? |
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| 19:13.41 | jelly | guest33416: why do you ask? |
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| 19:14.21 | jelly | guest33416: 3.16-ckt something |
| 19:14.23 | jelly | !ckt |
| 19:14.23 | dpkg | The Linux kernel in Debian 8 "Jessie" comes with the version string "ckt" as these receive long term support as a collaboration between the Debian and Ubuntu kernel maintainers: the Canonical Kernel Team. https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/11/msg00154.html |
| 19:14.33 | guest33416 | I tried looking up packages.debian.org, the latest linux-image there for me is 3.13. Another source tells that 8.0 uses 3.16. |
| 19:14.49 | guest33416 | Just wanted to know. |
| 19:15.02 | jelly | guest33416: yeah, you want to look at source package named "linux" |
| 19:15.07 | jelly | judd: kernels |
| 19:15.08 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (4.0.8-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u2); experimental: 4.1.0-trunk-686-pae (4.1.2-1~exp1) |
| 19:15.17 | guest33416 | Great, thanks. |
| 19:15.24 | jelly | debian 8 is codenamed "jessie" |
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| 19:16.59 | cdrage | i think the openvswitch package is borked in debian jessie. anyone else try it too? getting a "Address family not supported by protocol" spam in the openvswitch logs |
| 19:17.20 | cdrage | seems that the db of openvswitch isn't installed correctly on apt-get |
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| 20:35.14 | jhutchins_wk | !botsnack |
| 20:35.14 | dpkg | :), jhutchins_wk |
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| 20:45.25 | veverak | ois there some way |
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| 20:45.39 | veverak | to get which files were added after base intalation? |
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| 20:50.04 | jhutchins_wk | veverak: /var/log/aptitude, /var/log/apt/history.log |
| 20:50.26 | jhutchins_wk | veverak: I belive you can query dpkg for install dates. |
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| 20:54.30 | veverak | I see, thanks |
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| 21:29.18 | zerick | Hi folks, How could I list installed packages by size (by preference on MB) ? |
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| 21:34.10 | Zumochi | zerick: dpkg-query -Wf '${Installed-Size}\t${Package}\n' | sort -n |
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| 21:35.27 | Zumochi | I am not sure if this is the right place to ask, if it isn't, please direct me to the right location |
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| 21:36.22 | Zumochi | Anyway, I have a git repo in which I gave access to multiple users with setfacl like so: setfacl -m "u:user:rwX" -d -R GitRepo |
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| 21:36.57 | Zumochi | However, when said user tries to commit or do anything, I'm getting "fatal: Unable to create '/path/to/repo/.git/index.lock': Permission denied" |
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| 21:49.44 | stanreg | I'm using a debian-derivative. Trying to install yad. I get "Unable to locate package yad". What could I be doing wrong? I added the right repo. |
| 21:50.15 | bazhang | ,v yad |
| 21:50.15 | mtn | stanreg, need to ask the channel for your distro ;) |
| 21:50.16 | judd | Package: yad on amd64 -- sid: 0.27.0-1; stretch: 0.27.0-1 |
| 21:50.44 | stanreg | mtn, it doesn't exist :) |
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| 21:51.03 | stanreg | bazhang, hmm, what's that? :-o |
| 21:51.05 | mtn | stanreg, that is tough, only debian supported in this channel |
| 21:51.19 | mtn | stanreg, you can try ##linux |
| 21:51.33 | stanreg | mtn, well it *is* debian.. + openbox. |
| 21:51.43 | mtn | !based on debian |
| 21:51.44 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 21:52.15 | mtn | stanreg, you can easily use openbox with debian after installing debian ;) |
| 21:52.51 | stanreg | mtn, thank you for your concern. |
| 21:53.03 | mtn | stanreg, ah, sarcasm |
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| 21:54.22 | Razva | hey. I'm trying to execute a cron that'll run this: https://github.com/Razva/newbadmin/blob/master/email/exim-flush-cron.sh . for reasons I cannot understand...when I run the file directly from console, it works. when I run it from cron...it doesn't. any tips? |
| 21:56.18 | cxd13 | sometimes the computer freezes right before the login manager loads. if i reboot, it will work. i looked in dmesg but can't see anything that stands out |
| 21:56.43 | cxd13 | it freezes on a black screen, with white underscore |
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| 22:02.12 | stanreg | ,v |
| 22:02.13 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <amd64>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and amd64 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
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| 22:05.23 | jelly | stanreg: due to a number of technical and social reasons, we don't support derivative distros in this channel. Can you try to reproduce the same issue starting from a debian installation? If not, ask in ##linux channel. |
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| 23:58.37 | ponyofdeath | hi, trying to pass a parameter to dh-make-perl / debian package to exclude building the manuals into the deb file? |
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