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00:23.40mcordingleyI'm trying to get Debian installed on my wife's Toshiba Satellite p55-b5162 as a dual boot, but when I boot it up after installing Debian it just cuts straight to Windows. Can someone help me figure out what's going wrong?
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00:24.20Equamcordingley: you need to install grub on the same drive as windows
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00:26.02mcordingleyEqua: I did that.
00:26.12mcordingleyEqua: Same hard drive.
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00:26.33mcordingleyIt's UEFI, with secure mode disabled.
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00:27.11mcordingleyI made sure that the install disc booted into UEFI mode and I saw grub getting set up with UEFI at the end of the install process.
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00:27.22Equamcordingley: try other options for your bios
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00:35.25dondoni just did a dist upgrade from wheezy to jessie. my /etc/apt/sources.list is here: http://pastebin.com/VnDa1kCJ . after the dist upgrade i am getting this error upon apt-get update: http://pastebin.com/1DBnKmbT . why am i getting i386 packages? how can i correct this?
00:35.56mcordingleyEqua: Like what?
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00:36.13dondonoops, i think i figured it out
00:36.40Equamcordingley: legacy or other choices from the boot option
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00:37.12mcordingleyEqua: From what I've read, it's a bad idea to mix both UEFI and BIOS boot styles on the same hard disk.
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00:39.20Equamcordingley: choose the one that works for you. UEFI isn't working at the moment. we want to problem solve it step by step.
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00:40.19buck1are any of you connected to irc.oftc.net? I can't seem to connect.
00:40.38Brigobuck1, i am
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00:40.46Equabuck1: tested it. irc.oftc.net is up
00:41.18buck1thanks. I'll try more
00:41.22Brigomcordingley, mix uefi and bios in the same disk is not bad, it is imposible
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00:42.57Brigomcordingley, uefi needs a new partition method,  GPT, so you have to repartitioning the whole disk.
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00:47.18zebawsHey guys! I am working on a sociology survey. Could anyone take 5 mins to fill it out for me? https://docs.google.com/forms/d/19-HAIUfYP8H1F1xRS01NT6spkoMRphMyvzW5BBtCSJg/viewform?usp=send_form
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01:42.06ZeuZAnyone around that can ask me a question regarding SPF?
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02:03.58ZeranoeI'm pretty sure a recent kernel update broke my Debian machine. I get "XZ-compressed data is corrupt -- System halted" at boot.
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02:10.06AvocetVISZeranoe: if you're using grub, you might have advanced boot options to use older/former kernel
02:10.24ZeranoeAvocetVIS: No luck there, it fails on that mode too
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02:10.49ZeranoeI'm downloading a live Debian CD right now. I hope there is some sort of recovery option
02:11.11AvocetVISyou don't have a recovery mode in grub either? and the older kernel fails too huh..
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02:12.48ZeranoeI can get to the grub command line by hitting 'c'.
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02:13.20consumewhy not chroot from a livecd?
02:13.53ZeranoeI only have one version kernel boot option, but I do have the 'recovery mode' for that version. It fails with the same error though
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02:21.17greynessany reason why my mouse doubles in size when i hover over any application, then goes back to normal when i hover on a desktop? i have a 4 screen display
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02:26.08greynessany reason why my mouse doubles in size when i hover over any application, then goes back to normal when i hover on a desktop? i have a 4 screen display (using openbox)
02:26.18greynesssorry for the double line, but i didnt want them too spaced out
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02:36.42ZeranoeAlright, I've got a shell open on the partition where the broken system is. Any suggestions what kinda of things I could do to recover this?
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02:37.50consumemount sys, dev, and proc. chroot, change the kernel, unmount, reboot
02:38.18ZeranoeSounds good, I'll need to install another kernel though
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02:38.40consumeyeah once you chroot, you'll be able to use the package manager to do that
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02:38.58ZeranoeAlready there
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02:39.40Zeranoeis there a package that contains a legacy kernel?
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02:40.02consumewhich version of debian are you using?
02:40.17Zeranoe8.1.0
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02:40.25Zeranoelatest kernel
02:40.43epsilononly what you see as package - reinstall it and run grub-install whatever. And if you get wired errors: check if your HDD/SSD/RAM is OK
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02:44.41ZeranoeHoly cow that worked, that was a little scary
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03:34.10Joey_Bellowsjesus finally got Debian on my laptop
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03:58.43denonso .. super new to using debian as a desktop OS. I was hoping to remote into it, figured vnc was probably the best. Installed vnc4server, set a pass .. but I see a lot of conflicting info on how best to start it, ~/.vnc/xstartup settings
03:58.56denonthis is a new jessie install, with gnome freshly installed
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04:05.02denonguess it's not as common as I expected....
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04:32.48denonheh
04:32.49denonnice
04:32.50denonhttps://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776746
04:32.52juddBug http://bugs.debian.org/776746 in gnome-session (open): «gnome-session: "Oh no! Something has gone wrong" when used under Xvnc»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-02-01; last modified: 2015-07-26.
04:33.01denonWONTFIX: Don't care
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04:49.24whitephoenixOkay something weird is happening. I used a boot-repair-disk thing and booted from usb, but instead it booted into debian and it actually worked
04:49.37whitephoenixno boot repair anywhere
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04:50.18whitephoenixit won't boot correctly unless I try to boot from usb
04:50.23whitephoenixhow do I fix this?
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05:19.37whitephoenixOkay, I'm gonna reset cmos and format my hard drives and if debian doesn't work this time...
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05:28.13whitephoenixbesides clearing all hard drives (which I'm doing) is there anything else I can do to ensure a successful install?
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06:46.09AnarquistaLibreHello all, how does Debian differ from Trisquel?
06:47.56fireba11AnarquistaLibre: wth is Trisquel?
06:48.12AnarquistaLibreA FSF recommended free software distro.
06:48.24AnarquistaLibreProbably the most popular one out of their recommended distros.
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06:49.09fireba11AnarquistaLibre: trisquel is a derivate of ubuntu which is a derivate of debian .. :-D
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06:49.33AnarquistaLibreI know. Just wondering what some of the differences are.
06:49.41AnarquistaLibreAnd the free culture focus for each.
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07:11.30premobosshi, i set ul my wlan0 as access point with hostapd: wlan0 is configured with static ip 172.16.2.1 and release dinamic ip (from .2 to .30) using isc-dhcp-server. all works fine, i can get connection with the 3 laptop of my family, we ca reach internet, all works fine. it works fine but sometimes wlan0 loose. Te problem is that sometimes wlan0 loose her ip, so i must enter from eth0 with ssh, do 'ifdown wlan0; ifup wlan0' to give
07:11.30premobossbac the ip to wlan0. smehone know why wlan0 loose ip?
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07:20.12roziepremoboss: don't know why you lose IP, but use network manager or wicd, enable "always connect to this network"
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07:20.36roziethen it should reconnect automagically
07:20.54premobossrozie, the wlan0 that loose ip *IS* the access point, not  the client
07:20.54roziewhy it lose IP - check dmesg, check syslog. logs, in general
07:21.15premobossdmeg... good idea
07:21.19premobossi will do.
07:21.36premobosscheck logs, ok.
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07:22.01bezabanis networkmanager running?
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07:22.44premobosstheo problem is on the linuxbox thai i configured as Access Point/router to modem adsl.
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07:23.36premobosshere the schema: PC(wlan0)---|wireless|---(wlan0)LINUXBOX(eth0)---|wired|---modem_ADSL----internet
07:23.59premobossis the wlan0 of LInUXBOX to loose her fixed ip
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07:28.10roziemaybe problems with wireless module and AP mode? logs...
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07:34.01FlynnnWhat effect, exactly, does "auto eth0" have on a debian system? (when inside /etc/network/interfaces)
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07:35.59miskatonicmy eth0 doesn't work without a proprietary driver, so I got an USB ethernet adapter for eth1
07:37.00EquaFlynnn: it starts the device on boot up
07:37.12FlynnnEqua: Is there any point in doing that? Won't it start up the minute I plug in an ethernet cable?
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07:37.59EquaFlynnn: the state will still be down even when you plug in the cable
07:38.08rselon_Is there a way to temporarily set a static ip without editing interfaces?
07:38.13rselon_need it to setup a router
07:38.18FlynnnEqua: What do you mean by state?
07:38.42Equado ip a and look at the state (UP / DOWN)
07:39.36FlynnnEqua: Does the state DOWN really do anything? I have a debian machine with no auto eth0, and the status indicators on the ethernet port light up when I plug it into an ethernet connection anyhow
07:39.41Equarselon: you need a manager like nm or wicd without interfaces
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07:40.20EquaFlynnn: you might have other apps bringing it up such as nm or wicd
07:40.30FlynnnEqua: oooh
07:40.49rselonEqua: any command line option? I just need to change it for 10 seconds to configure a router and dont really want to go through the trouble of editing interfaces
07:41.12FlynnnEqua: if I do auto eth0, will that cause the machine (this is raspbian) to WAIT for an ethernet connection on bootup? Or does it just prepare the system for accepting ethernet connections?
07:41.14Equarselon: it's just a few lines. do you want me to copy it for you?
07:41.36EquaFlynnn: if you use other network manager, you dont' need to edit interfaces
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07:41.41rselonEqua: meh no I know how to do it just seems weird theres not a ip set-addr command or something similar
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07:41.58FlynnnEqua: candidly don't know if I'm using any other network manager
07:42.03Equarselon: you can with ip. man ip
07:42.04FlynnnEqua: I even suspect that I am not
07:42.12premobossrozie, i am not confident with log analisys, where i shoudl read?
07:42.34FlynnnEqua: all tutorials suggest doing interface modifications when using raspberry pi, so that suggests to me that there is no builtin external manager
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07:44.01Equarselon: i.e. ip addr add 192.168.50.5 dev eth1
07:44.21FlynnnIf I do auto eth0, will that cause the machine (this is raspbian) to WAIT for an ethernet connection on bootup? Or does it just prepare the system for accepting ethernet connections?
07:44.23rselonman page was ip-address and that looks like it, brb testing
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07:45.04EquaFlynnn: it shouldnt, if it does you can always put manual
07:45.18FlynnnEqua: I see -- what does manual do?
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07:47.19EquaFlynnn: this page might help answer some of your question. https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration are you having issue with your network?
07:47.33FlynnnEqua: Just configuring a raspberry pi for a static IP
07:47.39FlynnnI want to actually understand the changes I am making
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07:47.53EquaFlynnn: click on configuring the interface manually
07:48.10FlynnnThat's actually what I'm looking at, interestingly!
07:48.42FlynnnEqua: It says "network, broadcast, and gateway are optional"
07:48.56FlynnnEqua: I take it then that "netmask" is *not* optional?
07:48.58FlynnnI am curious what it does
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07:49.27EquaFlynnn: i usually do address, netmask, and gateway
07:49.55FlynnnEqua: Gateway refers to the device on the opposite end, yeah?
07:50.12EquaFlynnn: gateway usually is the router / access point
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07:50.27FlynnnEqua: Yeah, it's important that I do not specify a gateway here
07:50.36FlynnnEqua: I have no idea what will be on the other end of the ethernet connection
07:50.57FlynnnEqua: But do you know what netmask does?
07:51.06EquaFlynnn: then do address and netmask, if you have problem connecting to the internet, you can put it in later
07:51.18FlynnnEqua: I see, great, thanks
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07:55.38FlynnnEqua: In the example, the netmask, address lines, etc, are indented. is this technically needed, or just for looks?
07:56.00EquaFlynnn: Easier for reading.
07:56.08FlynnnEqua: I see, thanks
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08:07.48premobosshello, when i use 'ifconfig eth0', i suppose the command goes somewhere in /proc or /sys to read parameters (ip, netmask, etc). i am doin a script that parse the result of ifconfig eth0 but it is slow, so i prefere to "grep" directly from virtual filsystem, but i dont know wher eto go to read those parameters
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08:10.38tugrikI don't know for sure, but I think the output of "strace ifconfig 2>&1 | grep proc" tells you all you need to know
08:10.45tugriksurprised ifconfig is "slow" though
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08:11.53premobossifconfig is fast enough, but i use it several times inot a for-next loop, so any little speed wil be multiplied adn final gain will be big.
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08:13.42Equapremoboss: i don't know what info you are looking for from ifconfig. take a look at /proc/net/
08:13.52premobossok
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08:18.13giuseppe_hello everyone...by mistake i removed the directory /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d
08:18.33giuseppe_and anytime i install a package it tells me that the packages i'm installing are not verified ?
08:18.39giuseppe_how can i solve the problem ?
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08:19.53bezabangiuseppe_: try sudo apt-get install debian-archive-keyring or the likes
08:19.59Equagiuseppe_: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/110500/how-to-regenerate-etc-apt-trustdb-gpg-on-debian
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08:22.26giuseppe_ok problem solved... thank you bezaban and Equa
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08:23.19Equagiuseppe_: np. which method did you used to solved it?
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08:35.47giuseppe_Equa i used "sudo apt-get install debian-archive-keyring"
08:36.04Equagiuseppe_: thanks
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08:36.17giuseppe_Equa thanks to you
08:36.55Equagiuseppe_: bezaban gave that suggestion
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08:39.58giuseppe_Equa but i read your suggestion too, and you were here to help me... so thanks to you !
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08:50.34blank4how do I load a .o driver into the kernel?
08:51.22Equablank4: what exactly are you trying to do?
08:51.39blank4Equa: load a driver  from a live cd
08:51.57Equablank4: which one?
08:52.16blank4Equa: a broadcome proprietary driver
08:52.26blank4Equa: I have a .o file I gotta load
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08:53.31Equablank4: i don't use the live cd but it should ask for it from a disk during the installation. you install it after having a minimal install
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08:53.44Equa*you can
08:54.22blank4I'm in rescue mode. Need to load the driver that's on the cd
08:54.26blank4only have  console
08:55.49Equablank4: chroot into your system and install it. dpkg -i foo.deb
08:56.13blank4Equa: it's a .o file
08:56.37Equablank4: where did you get it ? you unzip it from the .deb file?
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08:57.13trewasblank4: insmod somemodule.ko, but it should be for the same kernel version as as what is running and insmod does not handle module dependencies
08:57.28blank4thanks guys. gtg
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08:57.49blank4thanks for the help though. I know you're right. I'm playing around, hence the madness
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10:04.53nils_I have an odd issue with jessie, in the good old days with wheezy, when I rebooted or shut down a system all users were alerted on the console and logged out, now the SSH session is just left dangling and the server shuts down / reboots
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10:12.18NecturHello, i'm still having issues installing TestDisk due to unmet dependencies related to ntfs-3g. I tried getting ntfs-3g from unstable but no luck
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10:13.22NecturAny help would be appreciated
10:13.41FemaleAn0nwhat do you mean no luck?
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10:14.21NecturIt says i have the latest version
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10:19.36grapplerbjjHi, one question I have a debian box 32 bits with wheezy and I'm trying to upgrade it to jessie, I have edited my sources.list file by replacing "wheezy" by "jeesie" and when I execute: 'apt-get update' I'm getting this errors: Get:4 http://security.debian.org jessie/updates/main Translation-en [62,8 kB]
10:19.37grapplerbjjErr http://http.debian.net jeesie/main i386 Packages
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10:22.30Fjorgynndeb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main
10:22.39Fjorgynngrapplerbjj: this is what mine looks like
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10:23.40grapplerbjjFjorgynn, I've already tried that one and it doesn't work. BTW, the ones that is likely having problems is this one:
10:23.50grapplerbjjdeb     http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/     jeesie main contrib non-free
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10:24.03grapplerbjjbecause I'm getting this:
10:24.06grapplerbjjErr http://ftp.us.debian.org jeesie/main i386 Packages
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10:24.14grapplerbjjW: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jeesie/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 64.50.233.100 80]
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10:24.23Fjorgynntry some other mirror
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10:25.12grapplerbjjFjorgynn, already tried that, and same result.
10:25.19tottegrapplerbjj: You have a typo.
10:25.26totteIt's "jessie", not "jeesie".
10:25.51grapplerbjjtotte, oh you're right
10:26.04grapplerbjjtotte, now it's working thank you very much.
10:26.15grapplerbjjone question, until when is wheezy going to be supported?
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10:27.19totteNext February, I think.
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10:27.56tottegrapplerbjj: https://wiki.debian.org/LTS
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10:36.03alipoor90Hi, is there any software for Linux to split a vcard file to several vcard files each with only one contact(to send them to old nokia/samsung phones which doesn't recognize multiple contacts in single vcard file)? something like vcard cutter for windows ...
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10:37.40ChrisHalipoor90: have a look at gammu which does the handling towards Nokia phones via cable
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10:38.28Fjorgynn:)
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10:38.46Necturalipoor90: http://sourceforge.net/projects/vcardsplitter/?
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10:40.09alipoor90Thanks
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10:40.34brontosaurusrexalipoor90: if there isnt, it could be done with some bash/sed/awk or similar scripting.
10:41.17totteI used to use Intel graphics and the optical out from the motherboard, but then I put an Asus R9 290 in my machine and now that optical out isn't listed in pavucontrol anymore. Here's the output of `inxi` and `pactl list`: https://gist.github.com/totte/fa34461bb37d8aedef6a, any advice? Does putting a graphics card in a machine disable the motherboard built-in optical out?
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10:44.31Necturbrontosaurusrex: Are vcards plain text?
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10:44.55brontosaurusrexNectur: I think so
10:45.14brontosaurusrexNectur: but dont quote me
10:45.19Necturi see
10:45.38NecturAnyways
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10:47.03NecturAnyone gud any ideas on how to get TestDisk to install
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10:48.33Necturor how to deal with packages that refuse to install due to unmet dependencies
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10:54.16zeefloHi. My server is connecting to an unknown IP from port 80 - I am trying to find the file on the server that instructs the website to send ping/syn to this unknown IP. Ive tried to grep the ip in all files in the webfolder etc.. Can someone tell me, how I can better find out which file is instructing the server to do this?
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10:55.21KpuCkohello, can i make my local repository of security.debian.org to provide local security updates to my VM's which does not have internet access?
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10:57.03ChrisHKpuCko: check apt-cacher-ng  no real offline repo but a very easy to setup way.
10:57.53ChrisHzeeflo: connecting FROM port 80? Thet reduces the running processes to processes running as root.
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11:02.04zeefloI am getting this ChrisH 12:48:36.409789 IP 77.66.XXX.80.80 > 78.156.117.XXX.26136: Flags [S.], seq 4282742150, ack 114962485, win 28960, options [mss 1460,sackOK,TS val 185413144 ecr 256821772,nop,wscale 7], length 0
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11:02.19zeefloI really wanna know what file is instructing the server to send that ack !!
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11:04.22ChrisHzeeflo: can you show some more lines of that communication on paste.debian.net please?
11:04.38zeefloyes, let me tcpdump some more.
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11:04.56ChrisHzeeflo: I assume this is not the initial packet but the second one from TCP-handshake
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11:05.28zeefloSomething is telling the server to send an ack to the destination ip
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11:07.48ChrisHzeeflo: How familiar are you with TCP, TCP/IP?
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11:08.26zeeflosomewhat
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11:09.29zeefloThe way I see it - the server wants to send an ACK to that IP
11:09.52ChrisHzeeflo: show the tcpdump and we will continue the discussion.
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11:10.05zeefloCan it be that it keeps trying to send that ACK after i blocked the destination IP in the ddos appliance?
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11:10.12zeefloits like 5 days ago i blocked it
11:10.19zeeflosure
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11:10.35zeefloI will send you the link privately - i dont want to expose IP's
11:11.26ChrisHzeeflo: add netstat -an | grep 78.156.117.XXX  to the paste
11:12.22brontosaurusrexNectur: you did read the compilation guide?
11:12.24brontosaurusrexhttp://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Compilation#Linux
11:13.09zeefloI pasted you the link privately ChrisH
11:14.05Necturbrontosaurusrex: no i did not know i had to compile TestDisk
11:14.51NecturI have tried to compile packages before, but i never got it to work
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11:18.24Necturwhenever i tried to install "build-essential" it tells me it cant find it
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11:18.39Necturi tried different repos but i gave up
11:19.48Necturi guess i have to give up on TestDisk too then...
11:22.30KpuCkoThanks ChrisH
11:22.47NecturKinda weird i had expected build-essential to be in the Main repo
11:22.49ChrisHsummary of zeeflo question: Blocking on this Firewall did not seem to work as expected... still SYNs cmoming in and there SYN-ACKs beeing send.
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11:23.27zeefloupdate - even with IPtables blocking the IP - it still receives and sends.........
11:24.18ChrisHzeeflo: do you have different interfaces on that box?
11:24.43zeefloNo, only 1
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11:25.41zeefloWait wait.. Its cause the source IP still tries to connect. The server is not sending anything back now
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11:26.50zeefloThank you for the help ChrisH.. Guess I relied too much on the anti-ddos box to block the IP..
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11:46.36BasisBitanyone of you what to do when apt-get update fails with signature problems on wheezy with these messages? http://pastebin.com/x15kbAR9
11:46.45BasisBit*know
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12:22.55d3lphihello. I would like to install a network printer on my Debian Jessie workstation. The printer is a "Ricoh Afucio SP C430DN" but when I run Gnome's setup / printer utility I get an error that the service is not running or something like that. Even after I installed "cups" and "cups-client"
12:23.27d3lphidoes it really need to have "cups" installed to just access the network printer? I don't want to share it, it's already a networkprinter :)
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12:31.11d3lphicups cannot run, it fails even when I "system cups start" with the error message "Failed at step NAMESPACE spawning /usr/sbin/cupsd: Operation not permitted" any clues ?
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12:32.33ChrisHd3lphi: non-root user calling startup script?
12:32.48d3lphiChrisH: no, I used "root" for (re-)starting the cups service
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12:33.31d3lphiafter I installed "cups" and "cups-client" I did realize the service is NOT running (netstat -atnpu |egrep '636|cups)
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12:35.11jairhello all. I have a few questions that for some reason i am not able to find easily in the internet perhaps because I am asking incorrectly
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12:35.52jair1. in the linux console, there is a way I can list the results of ls with line numbering?
12:36.06jairI know I can do it if I run the vim editor
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12:37.30moozerjair: ls -1 | grep -n ""
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12:39.42ChrisHjair: why do you want linenumbers?
12:40.10colo-workthere's `nl` for that
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12:41.35ChrisHcolo-work: cool... new command for me... ls -1 | nl
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12:42.08vltor cat -n
12:42.28colo-work`ls` will default to one-pathname-per-line if it's writing to a pipe anyway, so the "-1" on argv is redundant in this case.
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12:42.58d3lphianyone can help with cups problem on Jessie ? cups won't run :(
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12:43.47jairthank you moozer
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12:44.33dokmaAny way to list installed recommendations?
12:44.50dokmaGoogle doesn't help...
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12:46.33themilldokma: that's partly because that's a poorly defined question
12:47.14ThorHi, I'm building an init.d script to start up a program, the script: https://gist.github.com/thorerik/581da30a0e29ff5496e9 For some reaon when I try service node_exporter start, start-stop-daemon throws back "start-stop-daemon: --start needs --exec or --startas" but when I test with the same variables in a terminal it works as expected, any clue what I'm doing wrong?
12:47.30jairmoozer: what about when the terminal shell someone is using, has the colors settings set and we are presenting but the letters are in blue and almost impossible to read?
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12:47.50jairmoozer: there is a commend in ls that will present the output and ignore the colors
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12:48.10jairmoozer: but we can do it on the fly instead of permanente
12:48.15jairpermanent
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12:49.44spaceonehi
12:50.03spaceoneon pacakge.debian.org are always 3 files for a source package
12:50.20spaceonewhat do i have to do so that i can dpkg-buildpackage it?
12:50.25themillspaceone: not always; for native packages there are two
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12:50.44spaceonei have *.dsc, *.tar.gz, *.tar.gz
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12:50.48spaceonei have *.dsc, *.tar.gz, *.tar.xz
12:50.50themilldpkg-source
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12:51.11spaceonei don't have the entry in my sources.list
12:51.24spaceonecan i somehow specify that i want the package from 'jessie' ?
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12:51.36colo-work-t jessie
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12:51.47colo-workdon't mix releases.
12:51.59spaceone:D
12:52.00spaceonei must
12:52.20themillmaybe you could tell us what you are really trying to do
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12:52.25cjenahI am setting the CPU clocking with cpufreq-set. Some system service seems to thwart my setup, changing stuff. How do I find what service/daemon is doing it?
12:52.33spaceonebackport liblasso3 to wheezy
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12:53.45themillspaceone: if you don't put the deb-src entry for jessie in your sources.list, then there's no way of apt knowing how to get that package
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12:54.26spaceonecan't i just download the things from https://packages.debian.org/ ?
12:54.36colo-workis it possible to figure out if installing a new package with its dependencies will clash with existing files on the system (there's been a few "unclean" local installs on this de-facto irreplacable box before...) BEFORE actually doing the installation?
12:54.44colo-workspaceone, yes, you can do that
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12:55.39themillspaceone: you asked how to specify that the jessie version should be used...
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12:56.06themillcolo-work: apt-file, awk/sed/some looping
12:56.16spaceone"-t" in dpkg-source doesn't exists btw.
12:56.21themillcolo-work: or write an apt hook
12:56.32themillspaceone: sure, never said it did
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12:57.54spaceonethemill: which file do i need to build the package, the *.xz or the *.gz ?
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12:58.10themillspaceone: you need dpkg-source
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13:01.39spaceoneah, i could just specify the .dsc file
13:01.47spaceonewhich merged both tar files
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13:02.19spaceonewhat does 'dsc' mean? "debian-source"?
13:03.00gusnanspaceone: https://wiki.debian.org/dsc
13:03.08SmitherHi. With cron, if I set a job to run @monthly and the computer is turned off when the month changes will it run next time the PC boots in the new month or not?
13:03.49cjenahSmither: you should use anacron for such tasks
13:04.44Smitherah i see. thanks cjenah
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13:06.08talbyHello! How can I configure the vertical scrollbars to be thicker (DEBIAN(Jessie)/Gnome3.14) ?
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13:12.00lord_robHi! I had 2 HDD, 1 for Linux and 1 for Windows. But the Linux HDD crashed so I got a new one. As it was an SSD I decided to put both systems on this drive, but I did the partition scheme wrongly: [NTFS][LINUX][LINUX][SWAP] as master partitions. All master partitions, 4 is the limit of what you can create, I did not think of that ... Actually Windows only works because there is a hidden "System Volume Information" on the other drive. Anyone
13:12.02lord_robcan help me?
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13:16.30Fjorgynnlord_rob: do you have anything on your linux partitioons?
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13:16.50lord_robwell, linux :)
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13:18.30lord_robthe debian system I'm currently using to talk to you
13:18.51lord_robso I do need to reformat everything then ?
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13:19.19petn-randalllord_rob: What help do you need? You haven't specified your problem yet.
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13:22.35alechko11hey guys, I'm trying to use my Ericsson N5321gw modem on my x250 with jessie, never done this before, and wvdial and modemmanager are telling me that no modem found. I've inserted the sim card and pretty sure that the modem should work. could anyone help me figure it out?
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13:23.19petn-randallalechko11: Does it show up as PCI or USB device?
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13:23.39alechko11none, thats the problem
13:23.41lord_robpetn-randall: I'd like my HDD partition scheme to become [HIDDEN_NTFS][NTFS](...linux things...)   I have 4 partitions, and I need less than that, I suppose by creating a logical drive
13:24.09alechko11it should be PCI device
13:24.10petn-randalllord_rob: What is your current setup then?
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13:24.30cjenahI am setting the CPU clocking with cpufreq-set. Some system service seems to thwart my setup, changing stuff. How do I find what service/daemon is doing it?
13:24.45petn-randallalechko11: Maybe it has a mechanical switch? What does 'lspci' as root give you? → http://paste.debian.net
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13:26.21lord_robpetn-randall: http://imgur.com/WKUh06s
13:26.35alechko11http://pastebin.com/bm55Mf28
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13:30.07petn-randalllord_rob: So the hidden NTFS is missing?
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13:34.59lord_robyes, but windows works because this hidden partition is present on the other hdd which contained a windows installation -  it was my main drive but I decided it to become a data drive when I bought a ssd. You see the ssd partition scheme on the imgur screenshot
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13:36.18alechko11I've read the owners manual, and there's no other steps besides inserting a SIM card
13:36.38alechko11went through BIOS menu, nothing about the modem
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13:36.53alechko11so it should be working, at least detecting...
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13:41.09Equaalechko11: take out the card and insert into the pci slot firmly and securely. you can also try another pci slot.
13:43.03brontosaurusrexNectur: testdisk is in jessie default repos, what are you running?
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13:45.32alechko11I've inserted as firm as I could, It's a new laptop, so pretty sure opening it up would void my warranty.
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13:46.00alechko11I guess I should try boot windows to check if it's OS issue
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13:54.11Tinned_TunaAfternoon, I'm just looking at DSA-3313 (https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3313). I'm running oldstabe, but CVE-2015-5366 (https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-5366) is relevant. Is oldstable out of support now?
13:54.39Tinned_TunaOr should I keep looking out for an update to my linux package?
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13:56.35brontosaurusrexTinned_Tuna: wheezy is LTS (or will become one) as far as i know
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13:57.23Tinned_Tunabrontosaurusrex: so I should keep an eye out for an update?
13:57.50brontosaurusrexTinned_Tuna: no idea
13:57.53brontosaurusrexi guess
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14:19.15woodenhow do i start openvpn under this systemd thing in jessie?
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14:20.33woodenit keeps prompting me to "Enter Auth Username: " but i don't know what username it's expecting
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14:22.05petn-randallwooden: There's no difference to sysv init in that regard. If the server requires an auth user name and password, it won't work if you don't have it.
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14:23.56woodenpetn-randall: okay, if it's just asking for those credentials i have them.  after i put in my username for the vpn it barfs with "Password entry required for 'Enter Auth Password:'\nPlease enter password with the systemd-tty-ask-password-agent tool!"
14:23.56tlolczykMy trackball all of a sudden starts freezing acting slugish. This after years of working right.Just after a Did an apt-get upgrade. Actually what happend is that right-click doesn't work and  ior becoming slugish. This after years of working right, this after I rebooted from my last upgrade. Actuallu what happens it right click stops working, and scroll left-right are OK but a scroll  up-down go an inch instead of halfway
14:23.56tlolczykacross the screen.  This happens for a while, then the mouse acts OK again.
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14:25.07woodenpetn-randall: running that systemd-tty-ask-password-agent seems to do nothing though.
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14:29.25petn-randallwooden: What does 'systemd-tty-ask-password-agent --list' give you?
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14:29.51woodenpetn-randall: nothing
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14:34.08gregor2well?
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14:35.42gregor2Housearrest!
14:36.12Guest95590need live cd with support reiser4, at somebody there?
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14:36.25Guest95590after build kernel "can't access tty; job control turned off", how to fix? please help.
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14:37.06gregor2try the unix kernel
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14:37.52gregor2No sorry
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14:38.05gregor2i have no idea why.
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14:38.28gregor2but another question!
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14:39.42centrxgregor2, huH/
14:39.54gregor2And why are there more than one distribution? Isnt there a PERFECT OS?
14:40.18centrxAn OS that never has any updates? Internet?
14:40.47abrotman...
14:41.18gregor2Will the programming of the Linux kernel ever come to an end like 'there is nothing more to do, the kernal is FINISHED!
14:41.35abrotmangregor2: do you need help with Debian?
14:41.52gregor2no
14:41.57abrotmanThen please be quiet
14:42.40centrxgregor2, Try #debian-offtopic
14:42.49tanathosgregor2, you mad bro?
14:42.50ChrisHsomeone with wheezy here running Samba against M$ AD who can confirm: wbinfo -u shows the AD User and wbinfo -i username (pick one from -u output) shows some data and not 'failed to call wbcGetpwnam: WBC_ERR_DOMAIN_NOT_FOUND'
14:43.38Jactaanyone with puphpet experience? - I know the channel is there but its more a question related to adding a line to crontab - can't figure out how to correct escape my line :/
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14:44.01Jactahttp://9l.dk/pastebin/view/fe13bded
14:44.26Jactawrong link! http://9l.dk/pastebin/view/24258c89
14:44.29woodenpetn-randall: okay, i had to run systemd-tty-ask-password-agent twice after starting openvpn via invoke-rc.d.  once to get it to prompt me for the username, and once to get it to prompt me for the password.
14:44.54centrxJacta, Create a shell script, then just call that
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14:45.27Jactacentrx, tried that but it was not working correct - shouldn't it be possible to fix without
14:46.28centrxJacta, maybe put quotation marks around it, to make it clear to the YAML where the string begins and ends?
14:46.40centrxJacta, Compartmentalizing things makes it easier to diagnose, removes extra problems
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14:46.57JactaGuess the .sh script should be used
14:47.15Jactathat would really fix it - thanks - guess its to much effort
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15:30.25ChrisHsomeone with wheezy (or Jessie) here running Samba against M$ AD who can confirm: wbinfo -u shows the AD User and wbinfo -i username (pick one from -u output) shows some data and not 'failed to call wbcGetpwnam: WBC_ERR_DOMAIN_NOT_FOUND'
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15:47.14HumberSay my laptop has 2 HDDs. On HDD 1 is installed my main distro, with security configuration and everything, on HDD2 a "trash OS", which is another GNU/Linux distro, used to play for example flash games and check websites without any security measure. Could a malware infect the distro located on the other HDD, knowing that this HDD will be unmounted ? I know a malware would need root privileges to mount it and hypothetically infect it
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15:48.16NoImNotNineVoltin theory, yes.
15:48.26petn-randallHumber: A safer and more convenient setup would just to run a VM with your "trash OS".
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15:49.44Humberpetn-randall: The thing is that I already tried and it lagged. I'll try with more RAM and a lightweight distro, to see.
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15:50.32HumberCould you explain me how, NoImNotNineVolt, please ?
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15:51.01aediniusRebooting this server always makes me worried.
15:51.19petn-randallHumber: If the malware has taken over the trash OS, there's nothing stopping it from infecting the other system.
15:51.47petn-randallaedinius: #adminproblems
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15:52.31aediniuspetn-randall: Yeah. I'm 4 hours away from it by plane and it has no OOB management
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15:53.44NoImNotNineVoltHumber: by implementing a priviledge escalation attack, mounting the other drive, and writing malicious code to it. basically, by doing what you described in your original question.
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15:55.22HumberNoImNotNineVolt: Alright ! Thanks for your help, and petn-randall too
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15:57.27apollo13mhm, how does grub figure out it's prefix/root variables
15:57.36apollo13my system uses the wrong partition currently
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16:14.16saptechno bluetooth
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16:17.58r6kusaptech: logitech mk270 uses wireless usb, it works on linux
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16:20.25saptechr6ku, thnx, i'll look into it
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16:24.42RockjQ: a shell script which only contains functions, where should I install that on my systems to follow some file system standards to where they should be installed?
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16:25.10RockjI want to install it to make it available for other shell scripts.. in different packages.
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16:29.04hstlHi! I downloaded Codeblocks in .tar.xz extension. Tried to unpack it by commands: "tar -zxvf" and "tar -xpJF"  and "tar - Jxf"
16:29.15hstlThis comands do not work
16:29.22hstlHow can i install it?
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16:29.46plrhello guys , how can i forward journalctl into logstash ?
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16:32.27openstandardsplr, http://serverfault.com/questions/684877/getting-logs-from-systemd-unit-into-flat-files-and-logstash
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16:32.44openstandardsmay well help you
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16:35.45lord_robcan I backup my "/" and "/home" partitions on another disk with partimage and then restore them in a logical drive afterwards (I want to install windows)
16:36.09NoImNotNineVolthow do i add two spaces to the start of each line when catting a file?
16:36.17NoImNotNineVoltpresumably sed would do this easily...
16:37.21TJ-NoImNotNineVolt: "sed 's/^/  /' <filename>"
16:37.43NoImNotNineVoltthanks :)
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16:47.26kristijonasI purchased and waiting for Lenovo y50-70 with i7-4710HQ CPU and  GTX 860M video card, just wondering how will I be able to disable discrete GPU (if needed), leaving it just with Intel® HD Graphics 4600 on Debian...
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16:48.17AlexLikeRockhow to install silverligth ?
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16:56.57bazhang,v silverlight
16:56.59juddNo package named 'silverlight' was found in amd64.
16:57.11bazhang,v pipelight
16:57.12juddNo package named 'pipelight' was found in amd64.
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16:59.29saptech,v moonlight
16:59.30juddNo package named 'moonlight' was found in amd64.
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16:59.53saptechI thought Linux was to use moonlight for silverlight
16:59.56Shibeguys my vps seems to be on linux kernel 2.6
16:59.59Shibeisnt that super old?
17:00.10Shibeits even older than my machines which is on 3.16
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17:02.10saptechShibe, which version has 2.6?
17:02.18Shibesaptech: i'm on debian 8 jessie
17:02.32saptechhmmm
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17:03.20saptechJessie will ship Linux 3.16
17:03.21luna_moonbrightI am having an interesting issue. Does anyone know why I have to keep putting eth0 down when I am using wlan0? whenever eth0 pops back up it breaks connection. This persists past reboot.
17:03.35saptechhttps://bits.debian.org/2014/07/kernel-version-for-jessie.html
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17:04.26Shibesaptech: well i did upgrade from wheezy to jessie
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17:05.55saptechI'm not using Debian at the moment but I upgraded also from wheezy to jessie. I can't remember which ver jessie have on mine
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17:06.14saptechI believe it was v 3.x
17:07.15Shibeso what should i do
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17:07.41Fjorgynninstall windows
17:08.03FjorgynnShibe: what vps provider do you have?
17:08.09Shibeuh
17:08.10Shiberamnode
17:08.16ShibeFjorgynn: install windows? wat
17:08.24Shibewhy the hell would i do that??
17:08.28ScaniatruckerFjorgynn: very funny, and you are very smart...
17:08.37Fjorgynnbecause at digitalocean I can select kernel in the vps settings
17:08.39LordShivaFjorgynn, is a troll :P
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17:08.50FjorgynnI am not a troll. I am from Sweden.
17:08.58LordShivaor at least it look like it, from his words :P
17:09.00LordShivalol
17:09.05ShibeFjorgynn: why the hell would i install windows on a 256mb ram vps
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17:09.12LordShiva:D yeah thats good one "_
17:09.16LordShiva:)
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17:09.32hstlhi all! i have downloaded binary files of codeblocks in .deb format. To install codeblocks i just have to run them by comand "dpkg -i [name.deb] [name2.deb]?
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17:10.35NoImNotNineVoltshibe: 3.16.7 was released 2014-10-30, and 2.6.32.67 was released 2015-06-03
17:11.13ShibeNoImNotNineVolt: how could 2.6 be released later??
17:11.15Fjorgynn:)
17:11.20Fjorgynnbecause it's stable?
17:11.24NoImNotNineVoltShibe: your claim of 2.6 being older than 3.16 seem inaccurate
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17:11.47NoImNotNineVolthttps://www.kernel.org/
17:12.12NoImNotNineVoltthere's a list of kernels, including 2.6, which is the oldest longterm.
17:12.17Fjorgynn4.x is quite new
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17:12.41NoImNotNineVolt(long live 2.6!)
17:12.41FjorgynnI'm running 3.16 in jessie
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17:13.14NoImNotNineVoltyea, debian generally sticks with ancient kernels. that's usually a good thing.
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17:14.37FjorgynnLinux joker 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt9-3~deb8u1 (2015-04-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux
17:14.38zwaragI made my boot partition to small, now I cannot update because it says I need to provide enough space. Fortunaly sda1 is boot and sda2 is the swap, sda3 is / and sda4 is /home. Can I make swap a little smaller and sda1 (ext4) a little bit larger?
17:15.36zwaragwith gparted? My concerns are that boot grub might use some kind of zilinder poining thing, and that it will mess up that boot file.
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17:17.36hstlScaniatrucker, thank you for answer! on more: can i rename then to simplify their names? they have very long names
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17:22.38hstlHello! Can i rename .deb files and then succesfully install them? or they must have their original name?
17:22.40Scaniatruckerhstl:i think, no
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17:23.25cra1g321hstl i dont see why changing the filename should have any affect on the installation
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17:23.59hstlScaniatrucker, cra1g321, thank you!
17:24.22Scaniatruckerhstl:you are welcome :)
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17:28.46clearleapmattI've spent the past two days trying to figure this out and it's driving me crazy. My question is about the shell in the Debian Installer (ash)
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17:45.27toriumHi, how do I find out what my X server's adress:port is?
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18:05.39clearleapmattTurns out you can do everything through the "ip" command.
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18:21.24toshiba2770xdvdi installed jessie on an old laptop, the toshiba satellite 2770xdvd and even though it can support 1024x768 16bit colour, X is running at 800x600 16bit colour. How can i make the display use 1024x768?
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18:23.42mtntoshiba2770xdvd, have checked out the wiki page for your graphics?
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18:26.20toshiba2770xdvdmtn, my laptop's graphics: SavageIX-MV
18:26.22r6kutoshiba 2770xdvd: Intel Pentium 3 600MHz, whopping 128mb of ram, s3 savage graphics, is this real?
18:26.41toshiba2770xdvd650Mhz, 256MB RAM
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18:27.20mtntoshiba2770xdvd, did you check out the wiki or do a basic web search? I suspect support for that card is very poor
18:27.45toshiba2770xdvdhow can i check the wiki?
18:28.03mtntoshiba2770xdvd, really? you have never been to the debian wiki?
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18:28.13Equatoshiba2770xdvd: https://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/howto/use-xrandr.html
18:28.57toshiba2770xdvdmtn, https://wiki.debian.org/Xorg
18:30.01r6kuthere are savage drivers, but no wiki page so try: man savage
18:31.25toshiba2770xdvdEqua, the man page for savage  is rather cryptic
18:31.45toshiba2770xdvdr6ku, the man page for savage  is rather cryptic
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18:31.53Equatoshiba2770xdvd: easier using xrandr, the link i gave you
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18:32.54toshiba2770xdvdEqua, do i have to use xrandr as root?
18:33.10Equatoshiba2770xdvd: not from the instruction
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18:33.38toshiba2770xdvdbut what if i want to make the change permanent?
18:33.38Equatoshiba2770xdvd: you can use it as a normal user since it starts with $
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18:38.07toshiba2770xdvdEqua, do i have to execute the randr command once an X session has been started. I mean lightdm is enabled by default
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18:38.44AlexLikeRocktanks saptech  bazhang
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18:40.27cjenahI am setting the cpu clocking with cpufreq-set. How do I find out what system service/daemon is thwarting my setup?
18:40.33Equatoshiba2770xdvd: permanent change, you'll need xorg.conf and virtual screen. you can run it while having a session. Read the whole thing first before you try to do anything
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18:41.34r6kutoshiba2770xdvd: what's your setup? are you using a desktop environment or a plain window manager(like openbox)? if you prefer using a gui to set your screen resolution then try installing lxrandr and using that. I think it saves your setting? not sure though :S
18:41.56toshiba2770xdvdEqua, i  have never created nor edited  an xorg.conf
18:42.12toshiba2770xdvdr6ku, icewm
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18:44.00r6kulooks like lxrandr does have a save button on it, try it :p
18:44.21Equatoshiba2770xdvd: look for a gui version to change resolution.
18:44.24madmattcoit does. just make sure you set the script it saves to execute on dm load
18:45.03madmattcobecause it doesnt automatically. afaik. but im running slim and openbox
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18:47.09toshiba2770xdvdthanks guys. will follow your suggestions
18:47.17mk270hello - how does one persist cgroup definitions across reboots, under jessie?
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18:48.03mk270we'd like to create a cgroup at boot; later processes will use a wrapper to put some of their subprocesses inside it
18:48.08LexxxHey boysss, to upgrade to testing to unstable do i change the 'main' in the sources.list to testing or?
18:48.34greycatLeave main alone.  If you want to change from stable to testing, change "jessie" to "stretch".
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18:48.47LexxxAHhhh thanks m8
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18:52.49bumbarhow can i make setxkbmap change permanent?
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19:00.42Equabumbar: add it to your ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile
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19:01.17bumbarEqua, thanks
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19:07.37cra1g321ok.....
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19:09.37Equajhutchins: might need to do it in ~/.xsession. we'll see if it works in .profile
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19:10.05artur99hi :D I just installed for first time in my life debian on my PC
19:10.12artur99I booted, logged in as root
19:10.20artur99and have no idea how to enable the gui
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19:10.30artur99im in front of a command line
19:10.34Hydroxideartur99: congratulations!
19:10.39Equaartur99: did you installed any DE during the setup?
19:10.45artur99DE?
19:10.54artur99the installation didn't asked me for this
19:10.55Equaartur99: Destktop enviroment
19:11.07Equaartur99: which one would you like. run tasksel
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19:11.27artur99aah wow :D
19:11.34artur99that is awessome
19:11.36artur99thank you :D
19:11.42Equaartur99: congrats too
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19:15.11latterain /etc/network/interfaces, what's the difference between "allow-hotplug" and "auto"?
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19:16.59LexxxHey, updating stretch to sid do i just change 'stretch' to 'sid' in sources.list? because it gave me a could not find error when apt-get updated. :?
19:17.02Equalattera: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/128439/good-detailed-explanation-of-etc-network-interfaces-syntax
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19:17.41cra1g321lattera - ""allow-auto" and "auto" are synonyms apparently
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19:18.23greycatIf you meant "allow-hotplug" and "auto", I don't think that's true.  Or at least it was not true in the past.
19:18.52cra1g321oh he said allow-hotplug
19:19.24latterahrmm, so, this interface (eth3) has nothing plugged in, causing debian not even to assign it an IP
19:19.27latteraI have it set to "auto"
19:19.29cra1g321lattera some useful info here - http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/vivid/man5/interfaces.5.html
19:19.35lestahttps://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration
19:19.48latterawhat's the best way to have it set even if no cable's connected?
19:20.56lestaby hand ? take a look to man interfaces
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19:21.57latteramanpage doesn't answer the question :(
19:22.15Equalattera: what are you trying to do with eth3?
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19:22.35latteraEqua: make it have a static IP address even if no cable is plugged in
19:22.59teraflopshey what about linking Debian stuff https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basic_network_configuration_with_ifupdown_legacy
19:23.04greycatThen assign a static address.  Use "auto eth3" and a static definition.
19:23.04Equalattera: read this part https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manuallyhttps://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually
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19:23.14latterahttp://ix.io/k07 <- this is my current /etc/network/interfaces
19:23.26latterabut apparently that doesn't work, even though the docs say it should
19:23.51jhutchinslattera: Why do you want the interface configured if it's not connected?
19:24.19latterajhutchins: admitedly stupid reasons
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19:25.26jhutchinslattera: Linux has been evolving the flexibility needed for laptops and tablets to adapt to changing environments, and the configuration changes are still in transit.
19:25.48jhutchinslattera: The need for forced fixed configuration has been neglected in favor of some flash.
19:26.06jhutchinslattera: Is Network Manager running?
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19:27.21latterahow do I tell if network manager's running?
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19:28.18latteraI come from the bsd camp where all I have to do is set the IP in /etc/rc.conf and the system actually does what I tell it to, heh
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19:30.45jhutchinslattera: Yeah, there may be more people taking an interest in bsd.
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19:31.37latterayup, unfortunately, the BSDs lack behind in virtualization, so I'm using linux with this infrastructure at $WORK
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19:32.42lestalattera: how did you know that the eth3 is not set properly?
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19:33.47latteralesta: because it was up when I rebooted with a cable plugged in
19:33.58latteraand when I rebooted with the cable unplugged, no IP
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19:34.40lestaheh
19:34.56Equalattera: plug it in and bring up the adapter?
19:35.29latteraEqua: except that right now, it'd be plugged directly into another computer
19:35.30lestaplug it and restart the network
19:35.43latterabut that computer can't get an IP because dhcp is supposed to be served from eth3
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19:36.03latterabut dhcp can't be since isc-dhcp-server doesn't listen on interfaces that don't have IPs assigned to them
19:36.17latteraeven though I told isc-dhcp-server to listen on eth3
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19:37.10latteraso it's a catch-22 situation
19:37.25Equalattera: how will other computers get ip from it if it's not plugged in ?
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19:37.34latterabecause eventually it'll be plugged into a switch
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19:37.37latterawhich I don't have right now
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19:43.25toriumis there a commandline for suspending laptop?
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19:46.03Lynx-htwpm-suspend  (?)
19:46.08Equatorium: man pm-suspend
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19:46.23toriumEqua: I have pm-utils install bit I do not get pm-suspend
19:46.58toriumI will try reinstalling
19:47.13Equait's in /usr/sbin
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19:48.50toriumOk pm-suspend is back but it does not do anything ;(
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19:49.57Equatorium: no error? you ran it as root? check dmesg
19:50.37toriumEqua: I do not see error, beside frigging grep:warning GREP_OPTIONS is deprecated. I do nto see antyhing in dmesg regarding suspend
19:51.02toriummaybe time to restart
19:51.10greycatalso time to stop setting GREP_OPTIONS
19:51.15toriumi am on 3.19.3 custom kernel
19:51.41toriumgreycat: I did not set it myself not sure where to set it
19:51.53toriumI do not use GREP_OPTIONS
19:51.56greycatI can't believe Debian would have set it in a default /etc/skel/* file.
19:52.02greycatAre you sure you're on Debian?
19:52.07toriumI am
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20:17.54cdragetest back
20:18.02sunnyparkeunjidope, , thanks
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20:23.13paulmcquadhi i would like to make a custom debian-kali like OS. How can a create an DVD-live image from a Ubuntu environment? What do i need to start with?
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20:25.55swordsmanzpaulmcquad you make a disk image chroot into it and install some stuf required for boot time there, and then uyou basically apt into it like normal
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20:30.24aswinHi channel
20:31.09aswincan anyone suggest open sourse tools for FPGA devel.
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20:35.18satellite2770xdvmy laptop which run jessie is a toshiba satellite 2770xdvd and does support 1024x768@16bit colour  but it displays 800x600@16 bit colour. i was here earlier and someone suggested lxrandr but this tool does not give you the option to change the display to 1024x768
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20:36.13greycatStart by identifying which video chipset is in it.   lspci -nn | grep VGA
20:37.08satellite2770xdv01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: S3 Graphics Ltd. 86C270-294 [SavageIX-MV] [5333:8c12] (rev 11)
20:37.20greycatmy god, how old is this thing
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20:37.32satellite2770xdvPentium III
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20:37.55satellite2770xdv256MB RAM
20:38.17greycatI'm not up to speed on the state of S3 chipset support....
20:38.30satellite2770xdvgreycat, so what can i do?ç
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20:38.54greycatI'm hoping someone else here knows a bit more and can chime in.
20:39.09satellite2770xdvthat woul be great
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20:41.10satellite2770xdvgreycat, the specs say my laptop has 8MB of graphics ram, how can i be sure of this?
20:41.35greycatDon't worry about that yet.  You need to figure out which driver supports this chipset *at all* and what it'll take to get that driver up and running.
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20:41.47teraflopsi barely remeber my fisrt laptop I think it had a s3 with no more than 4MB of memory
20:42.11Equasatellite2770xdv: you need savagefb driver
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20:43.32satellite2770xdvEqua, i think i already have the savagefb driver, how i can be 100% certain?
20:43.44Equasatellite2770xdv: lsmod | grep savagefb
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20:45.04greycat"locate savagefb" on jessie tells me /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/video/fbdev/savage/savagefb.ko so I guess it's in the default kernels
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20:45.34greycatthat does sound promising
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20:46.23satellite2770xdvlocate tells me i have /lib/modules/3.16.0-4-686-pae/kernel/drivers/video/fbdev/savage/savagefb.ko
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20:46.53Equasatellite2770xdv: now you need to use xrand and see supported resolution. then edit xorg.conf for it
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20:47.47satellite2770xdvxrandr as root? from the command line? i have already initiated an icewm session
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20:48.19satellite2770xdvEqua, i have no xorg.conf and have never created nor edited one
20:48.26hexnewbieI used to have S3 ViRGE and envy the people with S3 Savage. I still have my XF86Config for it lying around, though I doubt i would be of any help here... :)
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20:48.42Equasatellite2770xdv: open a terminal. you can create one in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
20:48.42zeroXtenhi. I'm trying to install debian testing with encrypted lvm and I'm getting a "configuration of encrypted volumes failed" error. Any suggestions?
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20:49.12Equasatellite2770xdv: your card is so old, i can't find anything for it on debian
20:49.28zeroXtenalt+f4 seems to show a cryptsetup help output plus the error "create: invalid numeric value"
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20:49.53satellite2770xdvEqua, i just created  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
20:49.54greycatsatellite2770xdv: now that we know you have the correct(?) driver, if you get stuck here, you can also try #xorg
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20:51.02hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Try reading: man savage
20:51.03satellite2770xdvgreycat, but lsmod says i am using savage not savagefb
20:51.31satellite2770xdvhexnewbie, man savage is so cryptic
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20:52.29hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: In the best of circumstances, the SYNOPSIS copied to your xorg.conf should, hopefully, work. However, you'd probably need the rest of it filled somehow... That's difficult by hand :)
20:52.38greycat"man savage" says that "savage" is appropriate for the Savage/IX 8c12 which is what he appears to have based on lspci.
20:52.45Equasatellite2770xdv: it's fine. the default driver for xorg supports it. follow greycat's suggestion and ask in #xorg
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20:54.12zeroXtencould booting the installer off usb be related?
20:54.23hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: By the way, I have a suspicion it might not be a problem with the video card, but with the detection of the monitor modes.
20:55.01hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: That always used to be the problem for me, and I suspect the driver is working properly. See the MONITOR section in `man xorg.conf'. Alas, it's also cryptic.
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20:56.47hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: With old configurations you had to enter HorizSync and VertRefresh manually as they didn't get autodetected. But even my new TV on my new media box had me enter a custom ModeLine to support Full HD.
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20:57.45satellite2770xdvhexnewbie, that sounds too complicated
20:58.19digdilemit was horrendous in the old days
20:58.31talbysatellite2770xdv, I am newbie, so can't help you. But I may have an idea for you. Did you try a Live-CD, like Knoppix, mabe an very old version of it from that time, and see what it configures to get up and running? Like this you might get an idea which drivers and settings to use, by copying a running live system. Just my 2 cents.
20:58.49hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Well, in reality all you need is to configure those two options of the monitor (unless it's the video driver, which I doubt). Ask in #xorg for the simplest way to do this.
20:59.04satellite2770xdvtalby, no live cd works on my old laptop
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20:59.44talbyI know that Knoppix was around that time. Was the very first Live CD if I remember correctly. May you can find an old version, which comes with the old kernels and drivers.
20:59.52satellite2770xdvi did ask in #xorg but no one answered
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21:00.03hexnewbiedigdilem: Ironically, when I was setting up my S3 ViRGE back in the day, I was told that ModeLines are something for old people and "nowadays" vert and horiz sync are enough (and indeed, configuring it was easy). And I had to write my first ever ModeLine 15 years later for an HD configuration, ugh...
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21:00.45greycatModeLines were a matter of googling for someone else who had already written one for your hardware, trying it, and praying that it did not catch on fire
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21:01.05hexnewbieEven closer to 20 years, I avoided them for that much
21:01.13greycatWith H/V specs it was a matter of identifying your monitor's model number (not always easy) and googling that to try to find a manual.
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21:02.36greycatAnd I also remember Debian having some dpkg-reconfigure crap that would try to write an XF86Config for you based on you filling in a form with H/V specs and so on... never did work very well.
21:02.41hexnewbiegreycat: Well, yeah, I needed a ModeLine for 1920x1080R and stole it from the Internet. :)
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21:03.54hexnewbieThat's some reduced blank... It might work OATB with HDMI, and/or ATI because I don't have it anymore
21:04.09satellite2770xdvcan anyone tell me how can i copy & paste text from xchat to dillo?
21:04.26hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Try middle mouse button after selecting in X-Chat
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21:04.32greycatmiddle-click doesn't work?
21:04.45greycator is this a touchpad?
21:04.50hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: By the way, do you know the horiz and vert sync ranges of your laptop monitor?
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21:06.59hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Laptop model?
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21:09.40satellite2770xdvhexnewbie, toshiba satellite 2770xdvd
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21:14.02satellite2770xdvhexnewbie, toshiba satellite 2770xdvd
21:14.12hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: yes, but it didn't help. :)
21:14.34hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: I am surprised everything isn't auto-detected, though
21:15.16hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Do you have a pastebin of your /var/log/Xorg.0.log to share?
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21:15.40satellite2770xdvhexnewbie, 800x600 is a horrible resolution and the fonts loook even more horrible
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21:19.32artur99Hi! :D
21:19.45artur99Is there any way to instal this kind of GUI on debian: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-84hZ_2lKBxw/U3yjAgWLYKI/AAAAAAAASzo/dMJ93MjEOKk/s1600/google-chrome-linux.png ?
21:20.02hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Did the #xorg guys gie you any idea? If not, I would risk and try one of these: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74808/how-do-i-force-a-resolution-of-1024x768
21:20.12BotchlaBHm, so this is interesting -- one of my systems is an older one, a Core2Duo with an Nvidia 7600 GT GPU. On Debian 7.8, using the noveau drivers for the GPU makes it work overheated, at some 92C.
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21:20.28BotchlaBIt made the computer shut down when the GPU was being used extensively, mostly when watching videos.
21:20.44satellite2770xdvno feedback from the #xorg guys
21:20.47BotchlaBI swapped the noveau drivers with the Nvidia ones, and it's now at 65C.
21:20.48BotchlaBo.0
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21:20.54BotchlaBIs this some known issue?
21:21.16hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Reducing refresh rate to 50-60 (I doubt old LCDs support more), and adding this to the device section: Driver "savage"
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21:23.02satellite2770xdvEqua, i created an xorg.conf but it empty since i have never edited one
21:23.22satellite2770xdvhexnewbie, i created an xorg.conf but it empty since i have never edited one
21:23.28artur99Is there any way to instal this kind of GUI on debian: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-84hZ_2lKBxw/U3yjAgWLYKI/AAAAAAAASzo/dMJ93MjEOKk/s1600/google-chrome-linux.png ?
21:23.41hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: Yes, the askubunut post has a skeleton for a config. You can fill in the blanks there.
21:24.06hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: You need only to fix the monitor config, and maybe add the Driver "Savage" bit
21:24.56Equasatellite2770xdv: what is the output of xrandr?
21:25.02hexnewbiesatellite2770xdv: You either need sensible HorizSync and VertRefresh, or a suitable 1024x768 ModeLine (like those shown here: https://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Modeline_Database ).
21:25.23hexnewbieYeah, xrandr would help a lot (and /var/log/Xorg.0.log probably as well)
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21:25.56hexnewbieIt's better than guessing why higher modes weren't auto-detected :)
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21:30.34Equasatellite2770xdv: try this for your xorg.conf. http://paste.debian.net/287363/
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21:30.46artur99Why am I getting this network error, while the internet is available in the browser: http://prntscr.com/7ykq4s ?
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21:31.39zeroXtenbah. messing around manually with the partition table isn't getting me anywhere either. encrypted volume just sits there as "not active" :(
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21:31.44Equaartur99: open a terminal. go to the folder and do dpkg -i foo.deb. then do apt-get -f install
21:32.08Equaartur99: replace the foo.deb with your google package
21:32.17artur99ah, thank you :)
21:32.52hexnewbieartur99: There's also a chromium package in Debian, of course :)
21:32.53gzcwnkanyone in? I just upgarded to debian 8.1 and now my machine runs a gui login, I have edited grub but it still does it, aldo inittab is level 2, what else is there pls?
21:32.57bastonesHi. How often does Iceweasel get security updates in the Debian repositories?
21:33.00satellite2770xdvhttp://pastebin.com/ykWxpeZ7
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21:33.33Equasatellite2770xdv: yeah it's not seeing your higher resolution. try the conf i gave you above.
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21:34.40jcnahsince setuid bit is ignored, how do I allow my unprivileged account, for example, to change the brightness of the screen, which I would permit me with a script having the setuid bit set like "echo $1 > /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness"?
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21:35.47hexnewbie`man xrandr' has an example that also forced 1024x768, without breaking X over restart :)
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21:37.57satellite2770xdvEqua, will the xorg.conf you gave me enough to do 1024x768?
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21:38.10Equasatellite2770xdv: read it :D
21:38.13satellite2770xdvok
21:38.18satellite2770xdvwill be back latert
21:39.09hexnewbieI still think the mode will not work due to a lack of knowledge of the monitor
21:39.14artur99whats the opposite for sudo apt-get install paper-gtk-theme?
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21:39.26artur99sorry
21:39.27artur99add-apt-repository
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21:39.29Equaartur99: not sudo ?
21:39.34artur99:D
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21:40.08artur99i added a repo and realised it has dead links and now i want to remove it :D
21:40.09hexnewbiesu nobody -c 'yum-put remove rock-qt-motif' ;)
21:40.10nkuttlerartur99: i just edit my sources file..
21:40.22nkuttlerartur99: and you almost never want to add external repos
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21:40.38artur99i wanted to install a theme :/
21:40.50artur99so, how to remove it?
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21:40.57nkuttlerartur99: so you trust somebody to run root scripts on your box to install a theme?
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21:41.33artur99no but I actually dont have too much data on this pc :D
21:41.33nkuttlerartur99: the add-apt-repository man page will tell you
21:41.41artur99thanks :D
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21:43.32artur99If i downloaded a .zip theme, how to install it? :D
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21:45.01cra1g321artur99 usually if its gtk theme, i extract it to /home/username/.themes
21:45.17cra1g321but its been few years since i've bothered with theming
21:45.20artur99ah, k thanks :D
21:45.44cra1g321could be different now for gtk3
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22:03.21JaoodWhy are chromium versions kept up with upstreamn in debian stable but iceweasel is not?
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22:05.06artur99ive mistakely opent a menu with Appearance settings
22:05.08r6kuiirc iceweasel in the repos is the extended support release(esr) of firefox
22:05.10artur99how to open it back?
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22:19.25mutanteon jessie i have python-requests 2.4.3-6 and git-review 1.24-2.  it tries to use SSLv3 but 'module' object has no attribute 'PROTOCOL_SSLv3' which is good (POODLE), but i want it to use TLS
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22:19.38mutantehow would you solve it
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22:27.09cxd13Jaood: iceweasel is too
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22:27.28cxd13well there's mozilla.debian.net
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22:28.01crush26can someone tell me what is wrong with this command please?...  grep -lr "/admin/" ./ | xargs sed -i "s/$var1/$var2/g"
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22:28.10cxd13chromium doesn't have an ESR-style version that i know of. that's probably why
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22:33.43abrotmancrush26: uhm ./ probably isn't sufficient
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22:34.15crush26abrotman: will that recursively replace the text?
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22:34.57crush26abrotman: in only the files that have "/admin?"
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22:51.25paulmcquadI installed some custom linux apps on my debian but i want to streamline the process. How do i backup the apps and settings?
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22:52.21mutantepaulmcquad: you can do "dpkg --get-selections" into a file and later "dpkg --set-selections" from that file
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22:53.04mutantepaulmcquad: that is just to save the list of installed packages, you need to backup the settings separately. i would probably just rsync /etc
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22:56.10paulmcquadmutante: Thanks 4 the help
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