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| 00:14.58 | AttractiveFemale | using fakeroot make deb-pkg, should the .config file have a specific name? |
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| 00:19.05 | AttractiveFemale | .config file should be named .config. compiled. |
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| 00:32.29 | sadtaco | Why after I add "deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib" and "deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main non-free contrib" to my sources.list can't I "apt-get install phantomjs"? It isn't found |
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| 00:33.48 | bit1 | sadtaco, do: apt-get update |
| 00:34.01 | sadtaco | dur... oops |
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| 00:37.32 | bit1 | sadtaco, I can't find phantomjs in testing |
| 00:37.47 | sadtaco | Weird it came up for me now |
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| 00:40.57 | Brigo | ,v phantomjs |
| 00:40.58 | judd | Package: phantomjs on amd64 -- sid: 1.9.0-1+b1 |
| 00:41.35 | Brigo | bit1, it isn't in testing yet. |
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| 00:41.51 | bit1 | Brigo, thank you :) |
| 00:42.00 | Brigo | bit1, yw :) |
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| 01:15.11 | P4 | SyncYourDogmas: thanks for your interest and answer. the scripts at the moment look like here http://pastebin.com/4etjGYH0 and seem to fix my problem by ensuring that this particular pipe reader of ii is running instead of checking the pipe reader generally. I will try to find a bit more time to share it on stackexchange for making the solution more universal but not now. in 3h i need to be ready for 400km |
| 01:15.12 | P4 | business trip for a week long and i am still not packed nor prepared. so long :) \o |
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| 01:52.39 | rselon | Last time I shut off my desktop a process hanged and had to wait for systemd to send a SIGKILL is there a way to check which one it was? |
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| 01:55.51 | abrotman | the logs perhaps? |
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| 02:24.51 | Nautilus | I'm using phpstorm in debian8, and am wondering what to do to make things a little easier. I have a set of files in my web site that are owned by me, with the group set to www-data. When I save a particular file in phpstorm it changes the group (to my own group). What kind of solutions are there? |
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| 02:31.49 | Nautilus | civillian: 750 me:www-data |
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| 02:32.59 | civillian | user/group I mean |
| 02:33.28 | Nautilus | it turns into 750 me:me |
| 02:33.38 | Nautilus | it was me:www-data |
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| 02:34.56 | Nautilus | that I don't know |
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| 02:36.09 | Nautilus | drwxr-x--- 2 me www-data 4096 Aug 2 01:29 js |
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| 02:37.34 | civillian | Nautilus: www-data cannot write to that directory |
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| 02:39.38 | Nautilus | civillian: I'm not expecting it to, but I do want to edit files as me |
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| 02:41.13 | Nautilus | civillian: (it just needs to read the file) |
| 02:41.19 | Nautilus | maybe x |
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| 02:42.04 | civillian | Nautilus: sorry I thought phpstorm was some kind of framework |
| 02:42.16 | Nautilus | ah no, an IDE |
| 02:42.28 | Nautilus | just wondering to myself if it has some sort of setting |
| 02:42.31 | civillian | Nautilus: if you want to set new files to be owned by the directory gid, check out setgid |
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| 02:43.11 | Nautilus | gotcha, but in this case it isn't a new file. maybe phpstorm makes a new file then does a del/rename |
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| 02:44.42 | civillian | Nautilus: perhaps |
| 02:44.53 | Nautilus | ahyea, they call the option 'safe write' |
| 02:45.30 | Nautilus | setgid sounds like the way, thanks |
| 02:45.44 | civillian | Nautilus: good luck :) |
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| 02:47.05 | Nautilus | civillian: : think turning that off is fairly safe? |
| 02:47.31 | civillian | Nautilus: safe write? probably fine. Just observe the before / after and make your own judgement |
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| 02:47.42 | Nautilus | I take it that things like Leafpad don't make a new file then del/rename |
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| 03:21.22 | DK-HaZe | why is it ufw doesnt work for me, I have added my ip and port to rules but my port that I have not added to the firewall still is connectable, is this normal ? |
| 03:21.28 | DK-HaZe | "sudo ufw status" shows "Status Active" with the one rule I have added |
| 03:22.11 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: I haven't used ufw, but do you need to restart it to re-read rules? |
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| 03:22.24 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: or have you set the default policy as block? |
| 03:22.55 | DK-HaZe | just disable and enabling the ufw should be enough to load the rules, they show up as active |
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| 03:23.56 | DK-HaZe | Status: active |
| 03:23.57 | DK-HaZe | Logging: on (low) |
| 03:23.57 | DK-HaZe | Default: deny (incoming), allow (outgoing) |
| 03:23.57 | DK-HaZe | New profiles: skip |
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| 03:24.25 | DK-HaZe | woops sorry |
| 03:24.32 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: lol |
| 03:24.40 | DK-HaZe | forgot no pasting :) |
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| 03:26.13 | DK-HaZe | but as you can see incoming is deny as standard, and the outgoing is allow cus I have Ip and ports allowed.. Status active, but I cant understand why my apache still works when I haven't added the open port it uses |
| 03:26.40 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: your apache on your local machine? |
| 03:26.57 | DK-HaZe | yes |
| 03:27.06 | DK-HaZe | or on lan |
| 03:27.11 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: how are you accessing the apache instance? on localhost ? |
| 03:27.15 | DK-HaZe | not the one I'm on right now |
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| 03:27.34 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: how many devices do you have on your lan? |
| 03:27.53 | beastwick987 | Hey quick question #debian, how come I only see Steam in stable and not in Sid? |
| 03:28.03 | SirLagz | ,v steam |
| 03:28.05 | judd | No package named 'steam' was found in amd64. |
| 03:28.17 | DK-HaZe | SirLagz about 3 active |
| 03:28.22 | DK-HaZe | maybe 2 |
| 03:28.22 | SirLagz | beastwick987: what's in your sources.list ? |
| 03:28.24 | DK-HaZe | maybe 4 |
| 03:28.24 | beastwick987 | That's weird right? @SirLag |
| 03:28.52 | beastwick987 | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free, I'm in a chroot. |
| 03:29.33 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: ok, so you have a machine running apache, and a machine that you're trying to access apache from? |
| 03:29.56 | beastwick987 | Sorry did my message not come through? Are we allowed to print links in the chat? |
| 03:30.12 | SirLagz | beastwick987: it did come through. give me a second |
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| 03:31.12 | DK-HaZe | I have a RPi as webserv I try connecting from my local work station and my phones network to webserv no problem, but thats the problem I didn't allow anything though port 80 on the webserver only my router. |
| 03:31.55 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: right |
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| 03:32.20 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: set up logging on the Pi and see what rule is allowing it? |
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| 03:35.13 | beastwick987 | Also, how does Steam on stable work? Is it just constantly backported? |
| 03:35.33 | DK-HaZe | wait I have iptables to, could this be the problem ? |
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| 03:40.37 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: ufw is just a front-end to iptables |
| 03:40.53 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: run iptables -L and paste the rules somewhere |
| 03:41.02 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: then we can see what ufw is doing to the rules |
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| 03:44.37 | DK-HaZe | SirLagz http://pastebin.com/9t4QgdYx |
| 03:44.53 | DK-HaZe | Don't know what all that is, but nothing I've added its just there |
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| 03:46.52 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: that's all mostly ufw added customisations |
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| 03:47.03 | DK-HaZe | what the |
| 03:47.05 | DK-HaZe | now it works |
| 03:47.23 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: eh. if it works it works then |
| 03:47.32 | DK-HaZe | I havent done anything :S |
| 03:47.39 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: lol |
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| 03:48.21 | DK-HaZe | okay, im trying to add the port for apache, if I can connect then its fine again.. |
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| 03:49.43 | DK-HaZe | okay thats fine with me then.. but a bit odd... |
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| 03:51.01 | DK-HaZe | SirLagz thanks for you help, even though I don't quite understand what just happened :) |
| 03:51.14 | SirLagz | DK-HaZe: haha neither do i, but you're welcome |
| 03:51.57 | DK-HaZe | Now I need to sleep 05:51 in the morning here, and I'm getting tricked by my own systems. Must be that time |
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| 03:52.48 | DK-HaZe | Have a great day / night guys and girls |
| 03:53.09 | DK-HaZe | exit |
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| 03:53.14 | DK-HaZe | omg |
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| 04:03.18 | baconicsynergy | hey guys, im having a library related error i hoped you guys could help with |
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| 04:04.20 | baconicsynergy | im running stretch/sid and i downloaded the assault cube reloaded binary from their website (no deb package) |
| 04:04.56 | baconicsynergy | attempting to run the shell script yields this error message: |
| 04:05.02 | baconicsynergy | "error while loading shared libraries: libenet.so.2: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" |
| 04:05.25 | baconicsynergy | i have installed all of te libenet packages from the repositories |
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| 04:05.40 | baconicsynergy | i think im missing a symlink? |
| 04:07.31 | asterismo | well |
| 04:07.41 | asterismo | iceweasel wont load youtueb videos |
| 04:07.47 | asterismo | it will completely hang up |
| 04:07.52 | asterismo | youtube in 4 tabs |
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| 04:08.02 | asterismo | AMD 8-core CPU, 16GB RAM |
| 04:08.14 | asterismo | trying to use chromium... |
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| 04:08.19 | baconicsynergy | asterismo: is this unrelated to flash being deprecated? |
| 04:08.30 | asterismo | is there any youtube downloader that i can use? |
| 04:08.47 | asterismo | it seems all youtube downloaders wont work in debian chromium |
| 04:08.48 | baconicsynergy | i believe there is a package in the repositories called youtube-dl |
| 04:08.59 | asterismo | thats great |
| 04:09.01 | baconicsynergy | i believe it is only a cli interface |
| 04:09.07 | asterismo | its a plugin for chromium? |
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| 04:09.26 | baconicsynergy | nope, command line program |
| 04:09.47 | baconicsynergy | its the simplest method that is sure to work, but there should exist some nice extensions that'll do the job |
| 04:09.56 | asterismo | isn't there any right-click way to do it? |
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| 04:10.44 | asterismo | http://www.chromeextensions.org/ wont show any compatible to whatever the debian version of chromium |
| 04:11.07 | baconicsynergy | yes i've had similar problems in the past |
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| 04:11.38 | baconicsynergy | perhaps you could download a newer version of chromium/iceweasel through the testing or unstable repositories |
| 04:11.59 | asterismo | no |
| 04:12.04 | asterismo | it will break my system |
| 04:12.17 | asterismo | well that its what i've been told in here |
| 04:12.32 | asterismo | !dpkg frankendebian |
| 04:12.32 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 04:13.41 | baconicsynergy | there is always that possibility, but its usually quite stable |
| 04:13.45 | baconicsynergy | most of the time |
| 04:13.51 | asterismo | one question, is the dpkg channel bot source available to run in other channels? |
| 04:14.14 | asterismo | i've been user of firefox/iceweasel for years |
| 04:14.26 | asterismo | but now it has become a painful browser |
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| 04:14.40 | asterismo | page scroll is very slow |
| 04:15.08 | asterismo | i'm considering to leave iceweasel to other fast browser |
| 04:15.14 | asterismo | i don't like chromium |
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| 04:15.30 | baconicsynergy | i would personally love a slimmed down fork of firefox |
| 04:15.32 | asterismo | but this youtube thing just adds up another reason to do so |
| 04:15.50 | asterismo | i mean |
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| 04:15.53 | asterismo | come on |
| 04:15.59 | asterismo | there is an android port |
| 04:16.09 | asterismo | and forked firefoxes for android |
| 04:16.16 | baconicsynergy | i feel you dude |
| 04:16.26 | asterismo | but the desktop version is so very painful |
| 04:16.35 | asterismo | i use an intel atom netbook |
| 04:16.49 | asterismo | there you can actually feel the pain |
| 04:17.05 | asterismo | there i simply use konqueror and forget the fancy stuff |
| 04:17.33 | asterismo | i mean, i can scroll the pages |
| 04:17.45 | baconicsynergy | i have a 10+ year old netbook so i feel your pain |
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| 04:19.35 | madrik | Palemoon? |
| 04:19.38 | asterismo | baconicsynergy: its very pleasing finding someone to share the pain, thanks bro |
| 04:20.16 | baconicsynergy | its not the hardware in your hands, its the software in your heart <3 |
| 04:20.29 | baconicsynergy | last time i checked, pale moon development was pretty slow |
| 04:20.30 | asterismo | baconicsynergy: seriously, i do not even start the browser for googling up stuff, i use an irc bot for that |
| 04:20.32 | baconicsynergy | but thats always an option |
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| 04:20.59 | asterismo | never heard of it |
| 04:21.25 | baconicsynergy | i toyed around with it a while back but had multiple compatiblity issues |
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| 04:21.38 | SirLagz | asterismo: your netbook is better than my eeepc701 :D |
| 04:22.56 | baconicsynergy | SirLagz: i've always wanted one of those |
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| 04:23.20 | SirLagz | baconicsynergy: no you don't :P |
| 04:24.17 | baconicsynergy | i love trying to get the most functionality out of lowest denominator hardware. its a hobby of mine |
| 04:24.23 | SirLagz | baconicsynergy: heh, I'm the same :D |
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| 04:25.22 | baconicsynergy | so hungry. see you all 'round town |
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| 04:29.35 | dgriffi | can someone help me figure out why on my thinkpad T420, the hotkeys just stopped responding? |
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| 04:30.54 | AttractiveFemale | I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED GRSECURITY this is why you should let me in #debian-offtopic again jelly, to avoid messages like this |
| 04:31.55 | sshock | dgriffi: what changed? |
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| 04:33.43 | dgriffi | sshock: I think I ran a routine apt-get update; apt-get upgrade. nothing unusual happened. then when I tried to suspend, it wouldn't. adjusting monitor brightness also doesn't work. |
| 04:33.52 | dgriffi | rebooting doesn't help |
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| 04:34.10 | dgriffi | and I've never been able to get hibernation to work at all |
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| 04:34.40 | dgriffi | in wheezy, buttons, suspend, and hibernation worked just fine |
| 04:34.43 | sshock | dgriffi: just a couple ideas that might help test: xev, showkey, and acpid.log |
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| 04:35.47 | dgriffi | acpid.log doesn't exist |
| 04:36.08 | dgriffi | xev isn't telling me anything helpful. just that the fn button is recognized |
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| 04:36.54 | dgriffi | using xev, if I hold down the Fn key, I get continous events... unlike what happens when a regular shift,control,alt key is held |
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| 04:37.39 | sshock | sure enough, looks like acpid just logs to syslog |
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| 04:38.08 | sshock | add this line to /etc/default/acpid |
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| 04:38.12 | sshock | OPTIONS="-l" |
| 04:38.32 | sshock | that will make it log more stuff; then you can restart acpid and tail /var/log/syslog |
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| 04:40.06 | FelixFire619` | Hello, trying to install debian jessie from livecd however it has a problem writing to hdd, odly enough windows wont install on it either, but fidsk and parted will allow me to wipe/partion drive.. help? |
| 04:40.15 | dgriffi | sshock: okay, did that. No Fn- combinations result in anything being written to syslog |
| 04:40.30 | sshock | really? mine shows all kinds of stuff |
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| 04:42.12 | sshock | http://paste.debian.net/288565/ |
| 04:42.19 | sshock | that's what I get when I press Fn-F7 |
| 04:42.54 | sshock | FelixFire619`: what is the exact error? |
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| 04:43.38 | FelixFire619` | sshock: i do apologize but me, |
| 04:43.52 | dgriffi | sshock: there's mine: http://paste.debian.net/288566/ |
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| 04:45.48 | sshock | hmm, seems fine; and you did add the OPTIONS="-l" to /etc/default/acpid and restarted acpid? |
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| 04:45.57 | dgriffi | yes |
| 04:46.05 | sshock | hmm, what about showkey? does that show anything? |
| 04:46.13 | dgriffi | whois Jane-PC? |
| 04:46.21 | sshock | you'll have to run that as root |
| 04:46.53 | dgriffi | keycode 143 press and release when pressing Fn |
| 04:47.06 | dgriffi | if I hold Fn and press a function key, nothing is printed. |
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| 04:47.34 | sshock | mine also shows 143 for Fn pressed by itself |
| 04:47.47 | dgriffi | I mean... who is this Jane-PC sending me unhelpful lmgtfy links? |
| 04:48.00 | sshock | but for others I get other codes, e.g., Fn-F7 I get a 227 press and release |
| 04:48.19 | sshock | dgriffi: no idea; some kind of spammer? |
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| 04:49.41 | dgriffi | 04:35 <Jane-PC> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=debian%2C+why+on+my+thinkpad+T420%2C+the+hotkeys+just+stopped+responding%3F |
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| 04:50.57 | sshock | she's just telling you to google it |
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| 04:51.54 | dgriffi | yes, which I already did. that suggestion of hers gives lots of irrelevant hits |
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| 04:52.28 | sshock | yeah, I assumed you already tried google |
| 04:52.40 | sshock | I thought maybe I could give you a few ideas to try, since I also have a thinkpad |
| 04:53.07 | sshock | here's one more idea for you: when you boot up, if you have more than one choice for kernel, |
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| 04:53.26 | sshock | try selecting the next-to-last instead of most recent one |
| 04:53.34 | dgriffi | hmm.. okay. |
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| 04:55.25 | dgriffi | rebooted |
| 04:55.42 | dgriffi | didn't help |
| 04:56.17 | dgriffi | was running 4.0.6. Now running 3.18.16 |
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| 04:58.09 | sshock | ok, hmm... |
| 04:58.27 | dgriffi | what model of thinkpad do you have? |
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| 05:00.53 | sshock | T450s |
| 05:01.34 | sshock | but I also have a super old T43; believe it or not, that's what I'm on right now (left my charger at work, doh) |
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| 05:02.20 | dgriffi | my last laptop was a T42 |
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| 05:03.13 | dgriffi | back to the t420, it seems that the system is not noticing that Fn-F key combos are even being pressed |
| 05:03.41 | sshock | that really sounds like a kernel problem... |
| 05:04.21 | dgriffi | a kernel problem that appeared without switching kernels? |
| 05:04.45 | dgriffi | I'll switch back to the stock kernel... though I seem to recall upgrading the kernel because of a similar problem. |
| 05:05.16 | sshock | what you said about xev sounds telling |
| 05:05.24 | sshock | like it thinks your Fn key is a normal key or something |
| 05:05.37 | sshock | mine only does one event on press and release in xev, not repeating |
| 05:06.37 | dgriffi | and I'm back to the stock kernel. no improvement. |
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| 05:07.14 | dgriffi | the contents of my .xmodmap are just this: keycode 66 = Control_L \n clear Lock \n add Control = Control_L |
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| 05:12.48 | dgriffi | now I remember why I upgraded the kernel... USB3 didn't work |
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| 05:12.53 | dgriffi | still doesn't |
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| 05:17.46 | barat | hi, is there an application to manage keyboard backlit? just like xbacklight (for screen brightness) but for the keyboard. |
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| 05:20.48 | topi` | does anyone know where the author(s) of modemmanager are hiding? #modemmanager no such channel |
| 05:21.03 | topi` | I have a not-recognised huawei here :( |
| 05:21.43 | sshock | dgriffi: I think I'm out of ideas sorry :( |
| 05:22.16 | sshock | well, one last idea: you could try booting from a Debian Live CD |
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| 05:24.50 | dgriffi | sshock: I'll go find a blank CD and get the image |
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| 05:28.11 | dgriffi | dammit debian.. WTF do you have to change around package names? |
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| 05:29.14 | dgriffi | or delete packages seemingly at random. |
| 05:29.39 | dgriffi | where'd the Azureus package go? |
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| 05:30.25 | sshock | I think azureus got renamed |
| 05:30.33 | dgriffi | no. it's in sid |
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| 05:30.40 | sshock | ok |
| 05:30.49 | sshock | Vuze |
| 05:30.52 | sshock | didn't it get renamed to that? |
| 05:31.22 | dgriffi | that's not in jessie either |
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| 05:36.24 | dgriffi | does anyone know why Vuze is missing from Jessie's repos? |
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| 05:44.21 | dgriffi | sshock: so if I start the live CD and I can use the hotkeys, what's next? reinstall the OS? |
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| 05:45.32 | sshock | that's one possibility, yeah... |
| 05:45.55 | sshock | unless you can find something in the logs or something to indicate how they differ |
| 05:46.22 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 05:46.23 | sshock | don't forget to back up your files if you re-install, hehe :) |
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| 05:48.49 | dgriffi | sshock: I have seperate /home and /usr/local partitions... but yes, I already did a backup in anticipation of this. |
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| 06:04.10 | sshock | good |
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| 06:07.50 | sshock | so did the live cd work? |
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| 06:19.22 | dgriffi | Used the live debian DVD. Fn keys didn't work there either. Now I'm going to try the stock Windows 7 hard drive |
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| 06:21.53 | dgriffi | sshock: does hibernation work with your T450s? |
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| 06:24.18 | Ryein | getting a strange error usb 1-5: device descriptor read/64, error -32 |
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| 06:29.08 | dgriffi | sshock: hotkeys are fine in win7.. debian is buggering up something. |
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| 06:32.20 | sshock | dgriffi: I just barely got the T450s, so I haven't actually loaded linux on there yet |
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| 06:32.38 | sshock | although I have tried it from a live usb I made; had to tweak it a little to get the trackpoint working |
| 06:32.42 | sshock | I don't think I tested hibernate |
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| 06:33.17 | sshock | this shouldn't matter, but one more thing you could try with Debian is a different desktop manager, |
| 06:33.22 | sshock | e.g., XFCE instead of Gnome |
| 06:33.36 | sshock | but I have a feeling that won't help in your case |
| 06:33.40 | _diego_ | I think some late update broke hibernation mode when using debian from a USB drive, I recently had to put my SDD in a USB case because my other laptop broke (I'm doing this until I get another laptop to put the SSD internally) |
| 06:33.46 | dgriffi | i use mate |
| 06:33.55 | _diego_ | and now hibernate is broken from the USB case |
| 06:36.02 | dgriffi | okay, now this is really perverse! i put back in my debian drive and not Fn combos ate workimg! |
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| 06:36.46 | dgriffi | correction... fatfingering on my phone |
| 06:37.12 | dgriffi | Fn combos now work... after I swapped in a win7 disk, booted it and did some stuff, then swapped back. |
| 06:37.22 | dgriffi | anyone have any ideas for THAT one? |
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| 06:38.51 | sshock | wow, so you are totally good to go now? |
| 06:38.56 | dgriffi | not quite. |
| 06:39.07 | dgriffi | USB3 still doesn't work and hibernate doesn't work |
| 06:39.46 | dgriffi | I think I'll invest in a hard drive case to stick in the optics bay just in case I need to jimmy the machine back to compliance again |
| 06:39.47 | sshock | ok, but your keyboard is all better now; that's really interesting |
| 06:40.15 | sshock | I guess somehow Windows reset something in the hardware or something |
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| 06:40.41 | dgriffi | debian 8 seems to have given me the most trouble of all debians |
| 06:41.40 | sshock | just blame it all on systemd :) |
| 06:42.04 | dgriffi | I might as well. systemd causes so many problems, it might as well be this too |
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| 06:43.19 | dgriffi | but on wheezy, usb3 didn't work.. and I didn't have systemd to blame. |
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| 06:44.43 | dgriffi | sshock: do you use thinkwiki.org? |
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| 06:51.16 | rselon | Asked earlier didnt get a reply: Is there a way to analyze which processes cause shutdown to hang? |
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| 06:51.23 | rselon | (aka dont exit properly on SIGTERM) |
| 06:51.42 | dgriffi | rselon: I saw it... I can't help you. |
| 06:52.00 | dgriffi | what processes hung? |
| 06:52.29 | rselon | I have no idea, all it said is a process by my user hadnt exited and did the usual wait 1 min 30 secs before sending a SIGKILL |
| 06:52.42 | rselon | after that it shut down as normal |
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| 06:53.30 | dgriffi | it might have been iceweasel. it has long had a habit of running away with CPU and then being hard to kill |
| 06:53.52 | rselon | dont use iceweasel, but do use icedove ... hmm |
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| 06:54.26 | dgriffi | I don't use icedove very much, but there might be something deep down in both that causes the problem that I observed |
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| 06:55.09 | dgriffi | I haven't noticed icedove being naughty like that because I usually kill it right after I view the email that prompted me to use it. |
| 06:55.29 | dgriffi | alpine is my standard email client. |
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| 06:55.57 | dgriffi | rselon: is this a recurring problem? |
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| 06:56.26 | rselon | dgriffi: has happened 2-3 times this week so yeah |
| 06:56.55 | dgriffi | see if you can do your work for a week without using icedove and see if anything changes |
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| 06:59.03 | dgriffi | and if all else fails, get into the habit of logging out yourself completely, then log in as root and do "killall -u rselon" followed by "killall -9 -u rselon" before you shut down the machine. |
| 06:59.39 | dgriffi | oh! I just realized a possible way to analyze this. |
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| 07:00.16 | dgriffi | do stuff and when you're ready to shut down, log out completely, then log in as root on the console. See what processes are still running as your normal user. |
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| 07:05.31 | sshock | dgriffi: yeah, I have been on thinkwiki a few times over the years |
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| 07:07.53 | dgriffi | sshock: I try to keep a current howto on installing debian to my laptop on there. |
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| 07:08.32 | dgriffi | sshock: I have this: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Installing_Debian_on_a_ThinkPad_T420 for installing Wheezy |
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| 07:10.49 | sshock | nice; maybe I will have to do the same for my thinkpad once I get around to actually setting it up |
| 07:11.04 | sshock | I have written some "Installing Debian on ..." over the years, but they were just on my own blog |
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| 07:15.55 | dgriffi | sshock: I was particularly fond of this trick I learned to make a bootable USB drive that can be modified: https://661.org/articles/flashinstall.html |
| 07:16.40 | dgriffi | sshock: the page where I found it went away, so I had my own copy that I tweaked here and there. |
| 07:17.16 | dgriffi | preseeding rocks |
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| 07:36.16 | Ooze | Hi, I was compiling something and lost my ssh session. I see something is still running pretty hard when I open htop. Is there a way I can open that session again? I don't know it's current progress |
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| 07:41.39 | rootd00d | Ooze: i usually just `slay` my user and then reconnect... start doing what i was doing. |
| 07:41.57 | rootd00d | Ooze: of course, i'd recommend you learn how to use tmux |
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| 07:46.47 | Ooze | yeah maybe I should have done that |
| 07:46.58 | Ooze | I was 'make'ing node and it has been running a long time |
| 07:47.04 | Ooze | Don't really want to restart, but I don't know that it's done |
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| 07:47.22 | rootd00d | Ooze: if you kill the process and rebuild, it should just keep going from where it left off. (more or less) |
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| 07:49.25 | Ooze | I see an ssdhd [root] popping up every once and a while |
| 07:49.36 | Ooze | sshd: root [priv]* |
| 07:50.02 | rootd00d | Ooze: that's the ssh daemon. what kind of cpu utilization? |
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| 07:51.19 | Ooze | it jumps around |
| 07:51.26 | Ooze | 5-20% |
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| 07:52.08 | Ooze | http://incorrigible.me/u/incorrigible.me_-_PuTTY_2015-08-03_03-51-54.png |
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| 08:26.37 | sshock | dgriffi: yeah, I can't remember how I did it, but I got debian onto a usb drive and it's very handy |
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| 08:38.13 | vecciora | I've tried Debian 8 installer and met many problems. |
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| 08:38.31 | Ragnar2 | This server sucks ... enter irc.netchat.cl !!! ragnar owner awaits !!! |
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| 08:39.05 | DrDisconsented | Ouch server is so shit it needs to be spammed |
| 08:39.20 | vecciora | I've tried twice selecting to not use network mirror, but somehow the installer still downloading packages from the net. |
| 08:39.24 | Ragnar2 | This server sucks ... enter irc.netchat.cl !!! ragnar owner awaits !!! |
| 08:39.33 | Ragnar2 | This server sucks ... enter irc.netchat.cl !!! ragnar owner awaits !!! |
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| 08:39.37 | Ragnar2 | I've been kicked 5 times :P |
| 08:39.40 | Ragnar2 | This server sucks ... enter irc.netchat.cl !!! ragnar owner awaits !!! |
| 08:39.54 | Chocolate_Chip | >.> |
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| 08:40.04 | at0m | !ops Ragnar2 |
| 08:40.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: at0m complains about: Ragnar2 |
| 08:40.08 | NeverW8 | :P |
| 08:40.24 | richardreloaded | dkms failed building the openafs module with 'âstruct dentryâ has no member named âd_aliasâ' |
| 08:40.34 | vecciora | And I've tried to format a logical volume, but somehow it can't be formatted. The other logical volume is fine except that certain logical volume. |
| 08:40.38 | richardreloaded | what can i do to fix that? |
| 08:40.53 | vecciora | Sorry for my bad English. |
| 08:41.31 | Chocolate_Chip | I think I know that spammer from my friend's server |
| 08:42.48 | vecciora | I'm sure I'm not in the fault here because I could do everything smoothly with CentOS Anaconda installer. |
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| 08:43.11 | vecciora | But still it feels arrogant to say "I'm not in fault". Hehe. |
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| 08:44.53 | joshumax | Hey, does anyone know what's going on in the debian-devel mailing list regarding adding lzip support to dpkg? |
| 08:46.03 | vecciora | Is it wrong to dump Debian ISO to flashdisk with this command dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdX bs=1M instead of using "cp" like in the installation guide? |
| 08:47.59 | vecciora | In the installation guide, it's just cp debian.iso /dev/sdX and then sync. |
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| 08:50.01 | babilen | vecciora: You can use dd (not sure why you wanted to, but it shouldn't cause problems) |
| 08:50.25 | babilen | (a sync is needed regardless though) |
| 08:50.45 | sshock | dd should be fine |
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| 08:51.37 | vecciora | Then it's really a bug. |
| 08:51.59 | babilen | You can skip the mirror configuration part, but then I also don't understand why you wanted to. Debugging the "formatting" (you mean the creation of the filesystem?) would require error messages from tty4 (alt-f4) and additional details) |
| 08:52.04 | vecciora | babilen: Why sync is neccessary. I've seen the man pages, but still doesn't understand what sync really do. |
| 08:52.19 | joshumax | veccioria: what's a bug? |
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| 08:52.33 | babilen | It essentially makes sure that all data has been written to the stick (and does not linger in buffers) |
| 08:53.13 | joshumax | the kernel likes buffering data rather than instantly writing it |
| 08:53.27 | joshumax | sync(1) will flush the buffers |
| 08:53.31 | vecciora | joshumax: I'll try to type in English. It'll take times because I'm not good in English. |
| 08:53.54 | vecciora | joshumax: Yeah. But I don't know what "flush the buffers" means. |
| 08:54.05 | joshumax | ah, okay |
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| 08:55.05 | babilen | vecciora: It means to write data that is being kept in memory to the stick. What's your native language? |
| 08:55.11 | joshumax | parts of the data to be written to the disk is temporary stored in the kernel rather than the drive itself |
| 08:55.18 | vecciora | babilen: Indonesian. |
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| 08:56.01 | babilen | Ah, don't think that there is a large Indonesian Debian channel |
| 08:56.04 | joshumax | #debian-id |
| 08:56.17 | joshumax | ^^ |
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| 08:56.38 | joshumax | its on OFTC |
| 08:56.41 | richardreloaded | someone here familiar with dkms? kernel module for openafs fails to build |
| 08:56.47 | richardreloaded | breaking our webserver |
| 08:56.49 | babilen | And has a single person in there :) |
| 08:57.19 | babilen | richardreloaded: What does "apt-cache policy openafs-modules-dkms" give you? |
| 08:57.21 | joshumax | #ubuntu-indonesia on freenode might have more |
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| 08:57.38 | vecciora | joshumax: So, when I was trying to install Debian, I had selected "No" when asked about using a network mirror, but after that the installation still downloaded packages from the net (the ethernet connector is flashing and there is remaining time of download being displayed). |
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| 08:57.45 | babilen | So far I have no problem understanding vecciora and do not mind explaining more |
| 08:58.11 | joshumax | same here |
| 08:58.12 | babilen | vecciora: Which image did you use? And why don't you want to download something? |
| 08:58.57 | richardreloaded | babilen: 1.6.1-3+deb7u3 |
| 08:58.59 | vecciora | babilen: The 64-bit DVD1 installer. Because the internet connection speed at my office is limited and is very slow. |
| 08:59.22 | joshumax | so not a netinst then? |
| 08:59.25 | richardreloaded | hmm... i downgraded openafs-client. didn't seem to apply to dkms |
| 08:59.31 | vecciora | joshumax: No. |
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| 08:59.45 | vecciora | So I take off the ethernet cable and everything went fine. |
| 08:59.50 | vecciora | *took |
| 08:59.56 | richardreloaded | downgrading... |
| 09:00.17 | vecciora | But I've tried to select "No" twice and still the installer was downloading something. |
| 09:00.27 | babilen | richardreloaded: So, what is the actual output of that command? (use http://paste.debian.net to show us) |
| 09:00.58 | richardreloaded | http://paste.debian.net/288605/ |
| 09:01.08 | babilen | vecciora: Are you sure that it is downloading packages? What happens if you are not connected to the internet? |
| 09:01.13 | joshumax | odd... |
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| 09:01.52 | vecciora | babilen: Yes I'm sure because the ethernet connector is flashing and the installer showing times remaining. |
| 09:02.01 | vecciora | *was flashing |
| 09:02.10 | joshumax | although i think the place to disable downloading packages is not in the mirrors section |
| 09:02.17 | babilen | richardreloaded: That looks alright, did you read https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776926 already? |
| 09:02.18 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/776926 in openafs-modules-dkms (closed, experimental, patch): «openafs-modules-dkms: fails to build module for linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64: error: 'struct dentry' has no member named 'd_alias'»; severity: serious; opened: 2015-02-03; last modified: 2015-03-05. |
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| 09:02.52 | richardreloaded | judd: Saw that already. Smells like a regression to me |
| 09:03.39 | joshumax | sadly I've only used netinst images to install debian so I'm afraid ill be of little help in this area |
| 09:03.53 | vecciora | babilen: If not connected to the internet the installer is fine. |
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| 09:04.24 | joshumax | what seems to be the problem then if you then install with the ethernet cable unplugged! |
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| 09:04.32 | joshumax | *? |
| 09:04.33 | richardreloaded | downgrade to deb7u2 didn't do the trick as well |
| 09:04.36 | richardreloaded | still failing |
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| 09:05.01 | richardreloaded | neither downgrading the kernel nor downgrading the module worked |
| 09:05.11 | vecciora | joshumax: There is no problem if the cable is unplugged, but still.... |
| 09:05.34 | babilen | richardreloaded: Which kernel do you have installed on that box? |
| 09:05.57 | babilen | kernel(s) that is |
| 09:05.58 | joshumax | you could always run ifdown to disable interfaces as a workaround? |
| 09:05.59 | vecciora | joshumax: It's already causing me tried to install until that part Debian twice. |
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| 09:06.24 | vecciora | correction: joshumax: It's already causing me tried to install Debian until that part twice. |
| 09:06.43 | wallbroken | how to personalize application menu in MATE? |
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| 09:07.00 | joshumax | hmm... babilen, thoughts on what's going on? |
| 09:07.04 | richardreloaded | linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64=3.2.68-1+deb7u2 |
| 09:07.08 | richardreloaded | @babilen |
| 09:07.16 | babilen | joshumax: Not really, I have never tried to *not* use the internet :) |
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| 09:07.47 | babilen | richardreloaded: Okay, and "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'linux-image-*'" doesn't list another? |
| 09:07.52 | joshumax | I wish I had a test nachine but I'm stuck on my playstation for the week :( |
| 09:08.17 | joshumax | s/nachine/machine/ |
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| 09:09.20 | richardreloaded | babilen: not an installed one. there are some linux-image-2.6 packages there, but all with the "un" prefix |
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| 09:10.49 | joshumax | veccoria I wish i could tell you whats going on but i honestly gave no idea... |
| 09:10.59 | joshumax | *have |
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| 09:11.23 | vecciora | joshumax: Okay. That's fine. |
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| 09:11.44 | joshumax | (sorry, just switched my keyboard layout to grndzro) |
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| 09:15.06 | joshumax | it looks like debian-installer automatically tries to download from the net if you have a connection |
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| 09:15.43 | joshumax | someone said dropping to a shell and disabling eth0 fixed it for them, but that was all I could find |
| 09:16.35 | vecciora | joshumax: Okay. So I'll just disabling eth0 or unplug the cable when I'm installing. |
| 09:17.57 | joshumax | sorry I couldn't be of mor help |
| 09:18.11 | vecciora | And there is more. Another problem I encountered in the installer is LVM partitioning. I could do the LVM partitioning fine with CentOS's installer, but not with the Debian's. Somehow the installer can't format a logical volume. I've tried so many times, but it just fails. So now I end up with a guided partitioning with only a logical volume for root and swap (with normal partition for /boot). |
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| 09:18.30 | joshumax | it's 3 AM for me anyways so ill try to hop on tomorrow |
| 09:18.33 | joshumax | oh |
| 09:20.01 | joshumax | strange... i believe the installer should generate a log file over in /var which may be of some benefit |
| 09:20.24 | joshumax | that is very strange though... |
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| 09:21.27 | vecciora | Yeah. That's very strange. |
| 09:22.55 | vecciora | This is the setting I want: http://pastebin.ca/3086845 |
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| 09:26.05 | vecciora | I've tried to make it so many times, but the installer just won't format a certain logical volume. From example from what I remember the installer couldn't format root2. |
| 09:26.18 | vecciora | *for example |
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| 09:27.01 | richardreloaded | i found the error... dentry->d_alias has to be dentry->u_d.d_alias |
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| 09:29.58 | vecciora | correction: So now I end up with a guided partitioning with only logical volumes for root and and for swap (with normal partition for /boot). |
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| 09:41.58 | richardreloaded | babilen: Problem solved by manually fixing the bug in the C source code of the module... |
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| 09:42.41 | richardreloaded | Manually adjusting kernel header code on a production system feels seriously wrong :/ |
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| 09:46.14 | babilen | richardreloaded: Could you please report a bug? |
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| 09:46.53 | babilen | I'm sorry and I agree that this feels seriously wrong (for AFS of all things!) |
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| 10:14.39 | arahael | whats debian like on the asus X205? i'm concerned about the wifi. thinking i'll put the 32-bit version of debian testing onto it. |
| 10:15.58 | petn-randall | arahael: We recommend using stable, unless you have some experience with reporting and fixing bugs in Debian. Regarding the device: It's probably easiest to do a websearch and look for a blog entry where someone describes the issues they had on the way. |
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| 10:16.59 | arahael | petn-randall: this laptop needs kernel 4.x, i believe, |
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| 10:17.37 | arahael | petn-randall: but fair enough. |
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| 10:18.24 | petn-randall | arahael: Ah, are you referring to https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/X205TA ? |
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| 10:33.43 | arahael | petn-randall: yep. sorry i will have to ask again later - dealing with an interruption |
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| 10:48.40 | bezaban | after jessie upgrade I can no longer use alt+# to switch windows in irssi (remotely and local, which seems to suggest it is not a change in irssi) where to I start debugging? |
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| 10:53.05 | ChrisH | bezaban: for me it still works... but I saw some issue depending on the konsole terminial I use to run irssi in AND if there are other tabs open. |
| 10:54.40 | bezaban | ChrisH: thanks - the keyboard just stopped working completely and I had to plug it out and in again, so it could be something entirely different :) |
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| 10:55.58 | ChrisH | bezaban: USB keyboard and USB Hub in between? I had such issue with an faulty USB Hub when I abused that hub to charge my mobile phone :) |
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| 10:57.22 | bezaban | ChrisH: thanks for the suggestion, but no, it's connected directly. It is however a rubbish machine which has been having some hw issues lately. I've already got a replacement workstation, just no time to set it up. Maybe today then :) |
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| 11:00.29 | ChrisH | bezaban: sometimes one need to be forced to switch HW... I know that. Good Luck and EOT |
| 11:01.07 | bezaban | :) |
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| 11:06.36 | wallbroken | http://postimg.org/image/lhoii92vb/ |
| 11:06.41 | wallbroken | why the fuck |
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| 11:08.24 | Filystyn | how do i look in debian repository for this package snplog.tar |
| 11:08.31 | Filystyn | hurry up babys! |
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| 11:09.06 | ksk | Filystyn: snplog.tar is just a filename, why should there be a package by that name? |
| 11:09.08 | rozie | hurry up your google |
| 11:09.15 | ksk | you can search using "aptitude search $name" |
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| 11:13.47 | Filystyn | i found nothing |
| 11:13.48 | Filystyn | VOID |
| 11:14.02 | ksk | you did read what i asked? |
| 11:14.39 | Filystyn | yep |
| 11:14.51 | Filystyn | termianl no result |
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| 11:17.47 | snakeyman66 | anyone using deluge 1.3.11 with jessie |
| 11:17.53 | snakeyman66 | from git |
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| 11:18.36 | afidegnum | hello, good morning, I have a lost of about 120 sql files, do you know any fast method or a kind of script that will import thoese files into the database while each file name is equal to the database name? |
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| 11:20.34 | nkuttler | afidegnum: sounds like a shell one-liner |
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| 11:21.09 | nkuttler | maybe a few more lines to create the dbs if that's not handled in your dump.. |
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| 11:25.27 | ChrisH | afidegnum: assuming its MySQL and the DBs still exists. for i in *.sql; do ; echo $i ; DBNAME=$(basename $i .sql) ; mysql -u $USER -p$PW $DBANME < $i ; done <-- UNTESTED as idea to continue |
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| 11:27.05 | olualo | Heyho |
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| 11:32.09 | eipp0inter | ops.. kk |
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| 11:38.57 | Bert_2 | Hi guys, I'm having a lot of connectivity issues with IPv6 on my VPS, now I'm not completely sure it's my fault or my ISP's. So I was wondering, could I move IPv6 from being on the same interface (eth0) of my IPv4, to a seperate eth0:0 (not sure what that's called) interface? |
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| 11:48.55 | afidegnum | ChrisH: thanks, let me see |
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| 11:49.37 | Captain_Sifff | Hey guys! Any idea what is the maintenance status of pam_unix2 ? |
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| 11:50.42 | dimbulb | I think we're in the "hey, I'm pretty sure *someone* is taking care of it!" territory. |
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| 11:52.49 | babilen | Captain_Sifff: https://packages.qa.debian.org/libp/libpam-unix2.html might answer that question (it is not actively maintained) |
| 11:53.05 | babilen | judd: v libpam-unix2 |
| 11:53.06 | judd | Package: libpam-unix2 on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:2.4.1-4; wheezy: 1:2.4.1-6; sid: 1:2.6-2 |
| 11:53.22 | Dagger | Bert_2: the eth:N stuff is called "a hack to wedge multiple IPs per interface into the old ifconfig sysctls that only support one v4 address per interface" -- the hack doesn't exist for v6 |
| 11:53.29 | babilen | (and as you can see it wasn't part of the last stable release, jessie, nor did it make it into testing again) |
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| 11:56.19 | Captain_Sifff | Thanks for that page! I expected as much that it is unmaintained. Are there any hints what is the least painful upgrade path if one has a shadow file with about 400 users employing blowfish? |
| 11:56.35 | babilen | https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/libpam-unix2 is the new-and-shiny version btw |
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| 11:58.26 | Bert_2 | Dagger: ok, is there another way to have IPv6 on like a seperate interface I can down+up without locking myself out? |
| 11:58.35 | Bert_2 | babilen: good to know, is that because of systemd? |
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| 11:59.11 | babilen | Bert_2: What is because of systemd? |
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| 12:00.26 | Bert_2 | babilen: is it because systemd replace the old system and therefore multiple IPv4 per interface is now possible? |
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| 12:01.07 | babilen | Bert_2: No, that has nothing to do with it and you have been discussing this issue with Dagger not me (babilen) |
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| 12:02.01 | Bert_2 | babilen: aah whoops, I though you reacted to what Dagger had said, sorry for the confusion |
| 12:02.40 | Dagger | Bert_2: I don't think so... and it doesn't look like ifup/down have an option to limit to a specific address family either |
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| 12:04.02 | Bert_2 | Dagger: yeah, I looked that up, whether I could do that specifically for v6, it's quite annoying cause I can't keep on rebooting for ages |
| 12:04.25 | Dagger | you can manually add/remove IPs/routes with `ip a` and `ip r` until you get a working config figured out |
| 12:04.48 | Bert_2 | Dagger: well, the config used to work for some time, it would fail over time without any reason |
| 12:04.53 | Bert_2 | but now it does almost instantly |
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| 12:07.04 | rozie | Bert_2: why do you want to shut whole interface? |
| 12:07.32 | Bert_2 | rozie: because it's a VPS, so if I loose connectivity I have a problem... |
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| 12:07.56 | rozie | you can always force IPv4 |
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| 12:08.30 | Bert_2 | rozie: well, the thing is, I would like to support IPv6 |
| 12:08.40 | head8debian | Hello all. I just got my GPU workign with the open drivers, and so far they are working, but i do have an issue. Im running debian jessie with i3 WM on a dual monitor setup, and every time i use ARANDR to change my screen layout, it works, but the next time i logout-logon i loose my changes. Is there a way to fix that? |
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| 12:08.46 | Bert_2 | but if this continues I will indeed just disable v6, cause it seems to have too many issues |
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| 12:09.07 | rozie | don't know how shutting iface will prevent losing connectivity or provide v6 access ;) |
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| 12:09.31 | Bert_2 | rozie: restarting the interface sometimes fixes things, which seems really weird |
| 12:09.46 | rozie | head8debian: xrandr script on WM autostart should do the trick |
| 12:10.22 | head8debian | Oh. |
| 12:10.26 | head8debian | Let me try that. |
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| 12:10.46 | rozie | Bert_2: check for HW errors. and you can renegotiate ipv6 without restarting iface |
| 12:10.57 | rozie | Bert_2: how is IPv6 assigned? |
| 12:11.02 | KubaBroda | Hi! Anyone know postfix well? |
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| 12:11.55 | jelly | KubaBroda: the people in #postfix channel are reasonably proficient, however |
| 12:11.55 | head8debian | My screens colors look more dull with the open drivers though. |
| 12:11.59 | jelly | !ask |
| 12:11.59 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 12:12.05 | head8debian | Im just shocked it works. |
| 12:12.19 | head8debian | I havent been able to use the open drivers for 2 years. |
| 12:12.39 | KubaBroda | head8debian: Thanks! |
| 12:12.59 | Bert_2 | rozie: It's a VPS, other VMs and the host don't have issues, which is really weird |
| 12:13.08 | head8debian | huh. |
| 12:13.30 | Bert_2 | rozie: Hetzner doesn't have DHCP or something like that for IPv6, so it's a standard static configuration |
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| 12:14.08 | rozie | report a bug to hypervisor admin |
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| 12:15.13 | rozie | Bert_2: if this is static configuration then restaring iface can improve nothing. admin must debug this. |
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| 12:16.01 | vlt | Hello. What has replaced "aptitude changelog" now that we have apt? |
| 12:16.35 | babilen | vlt: Why would it have been replaced? |
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| 12:17.35 | abrotman | vlt: aptitude changelog still works |
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| 12:18.47 | bezaban | ChrisH: fwiw it was gnome-terminal that had grabbed alt+# shortcuts on upgrade. My other machines don't use gnome-terminal, so that's why I hadn't noticed :) |
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| 12:19.34 | Bert_2 | rozie: well the thing is, I just did this and now IPv6 works again: nohup sh -c "ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0" |
| 12:19.43 | Bert_2 | rozie: I know it makes no sense |
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| 12:20.11 | rozie | Bert_2: what virtualisation does vps use? |
| 12:20.20 | Bert_2 | rozie: VMware |
| 12:21.07 | rozie | maybe shutting iface changes something on hypervisor. you can't debug this |
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| 12:21.14 | babilen | bezaban: Yeah, that is a common nuisance .. you can configure gnome-terminal to not grab them though in EditâPreferencesâShortcuts (just disable all 'Switch to Tab #' ones) |
| 12:21.17 | rozie | ask admins for help |
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| 12:22.28 | bezaban | babilen: thanks, yeah. that's what I did, i3 handles my tabs and most of my shortcuts |
| 12:22.42 | bezaban | disabled them all |
| 12:22.55 | babilen | indeed |
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| 12:24.56 | hargut | hello |
| 12:24.59 | vlt | abrotman: Yes, of course. But I don't have aptitude installed because I _thought_ that "apt" was supposed to replace it. |
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| 12:26.26 | hargut | Is there an automated way to create a debian orig source from a git repository, using a specific version tag? Eg. something like: git clone git://myrepo.example/prog.git && cd prog.git && gbp bulid-orig-source master/v1.1 |
| 12:27.03 | hargut | s/bulid/build |
| 12:27.43 | abrotman | vlt: look in the package dir in /usr/share/doc/ |
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| 12:29.05 | brccc__ | Are all debian squeeze sources gone? TRying to update an old server |
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| 12:32.35 | abrotman | dpkg: tel |
| 12:32.35 | dpkg | abrotman: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 12:32.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell brccc__ about archive |
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| 12:34.36 | brccc__ | abrotman: Debian 6 has not yet gone to Debian Archive yet :( |
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| 12:34.48 | brccc__ | But just found a mirror with its files. thanks |
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| 12:45.40 | eipp0inter | check if your mirrors have squeeze-lts repo |
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| 12:47.15 | afidegnum | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.35 | afidegnum | I have an error -bash: CREATE DATABASE ${%.sql};: bad substitution |
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| 12:49.04 | wallbroken | is possible to edit applications menu with dconf-editor ? |
| 12:50.05 | babilen | afidegnum: You probably want #bash and check for 'f' in there |
| 12:51.29 | Filystyn | not muchtcpdump not working on my debian |
| 12:51.31 | Filystyn | why? |
| 12:51.39 | Filystyn | i ended up looking at tutorial |
| 12:51.44 | Filystyn | Something is fucked up. |
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| 12:53.05 | Filystyn | i do everythign correct |
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| 12:53.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell Filystyn -about smart questions |
| 12:53.54 | babilen | wallbroken: You would typically use alacarte for that |
| 12:54.08 | wallbroken | babilen, for MATE? |
| 12:54.32 | babilen | wallbroken: I have no idea, neither do I care for nor know much about it |
| 12:55.00 | babilen | They do have a channel though (#mate on this network) |
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| 13:05.54 | totte | How can I test the latest upstream stable release of xf86-video-ati (http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/driver/xf86-video-ati/) while still using the stable repositories? |
| 13:06.40 | totte | If it means rebuilding packages myself, how can I find out which ones I need to rebuild? |
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| 13:08.56 | babilen | totte: That would be xserver-xorg-video-ati and, no, it is relatively tricky to test newer versions |
| 13:09.07 | babilen | judd: v xserver-xorg-video-ati |
| 13:09.08 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-ati on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:6.13.1-2+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:6.14.2-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:6.14.4-8; jessie: 1:7.5.0-1; stretch: 1:7.5.0-1+b1; sid: 1:7.5.0-1+b1 |
| 13:09.31 | babilen | (and jessie has the version that's currently in testing or unstable already) |
| 13:09.33 | themill | the latest release is already in jessie |
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| 13:10.34 | totte | Oh, I see. I was looking for a way to perhaps help out upstream by testing it. |
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| 13:15.11 | aryklein | I've installed two servers: one with debian 8 and other with debian 8.1. Is there any difference? Cause both are up to date, but if a run uname -a one shows this: "Linux itchy 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u2 (2015-07-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux" and the other shows "Linux jerry 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux" |
| 13:15.37 | aryklein | what does "deb8u2" means? |
| 13:15.55 | themill | it means the other machine should have been called "scratchy". SCNR. |
| 13:16.04 | babilen | heh |
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| 13:16.12 | themill | (second update targeted at Debian 8 "Jessie") |
| 13:16.20 | babilen | uh oh |
| 13:16.23 | rozie | aryklein: if they have the same sources list, both will be the same after package upgrade |
| 13:16.54 | rozie | of course if there's security.debian.org in sources list |
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| 13:18.52 | aryklein | rozie: ah! yeap this is my sources http://pastebin.com/zD9EYwk2 |
| 13:19.18 | aryklein | one has jessie-updates an the other nop |
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| 13:19.34 | rozie | aryklein: checkrestart from debian-goodies. or needrestart |
| 13:19.42 | rozie | kernel won't change until reboot |
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| 13:22.01 | aryklein | rozie: yes.. I know that. But one has "jessie-updates" and "jessie/updates". And the other doesn't have |
| 13:22.20 | aryklein | rozie: shoud it have those sources? |
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| 13:23.30 | rozie | depends what you want. if you want equal hosts - yes |
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| 13:30.24 | Ulrar | hi. I have a server on which I don't have physical access having a problem. I rebooted it this morning and it pings ok, but no ssh. Rebooted it on a rescue mode and I can't find any log in /var/log from after the reboot |
| 13:30.40 | Ulrar | Is it possible for it to get to the network part without writing any logs ? |
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| 13:30.45 | Ulrar | at boot I mean |
| 13:30.55 | petn-randall | Ulrar: Can you boot a rescue system? (is it hetzner?) |
| 13:31.04 | bezaban | Ulrar: did you mount the partitions of the system? Usually it will boot a rescue system off the network |
| 13:31.26 | bezaban | and the /var/log will be from the network booted rescue system, not the actual machine |
| 13:31.44 | Ulrar | petn-randall: No, OVH |
| 13:31.48 | Ulrar | but yeah the rescue boots fine |
| 13:31.58 | Ulrar | bezaban: I chrooted on the partition |
| 13:32.17 | bezaban | Ulrar: good, just making sure the simplest solutions are in order :) |
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| 13:33.13 | Ulrar | I must admit it's the first debian 8 I get my hands on, we usually still install 7 for now but the client already had a 8 installed |
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| 13:33.16 | Ulrar | So might be me |
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| 13:34.20 | babilen | Ulrar: What does "no SSH" mean exactly? Are you trying to SSH to root? |
| 13:34.22 | bezaban | then I guess you should check if sshd starts in the chroot environment, that there isn't a firewall in place blocking it and that it starts on boot. You could also add in a reverse shell to somewhere else to troubleshoot when it's up |
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| 13:35.10 | Ulrar | babilen: yeah, worked before the reboot. Now it says connection refused on port 22 |
| 13:35.26 | Ulrar | For the firewall .. maybe, trying to find if there is any rules somewhere but from the rescue it isn't as easy |
| 13:35.27 | babilen | dpkg: connection refused |
| 13:35.27 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running on the specified IP address/TCP port at all (e.g. apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
| 13:36.17 | SWAT | I'm trying to create a partman recipe (for preseeding), but it fails on the LVM part. I want to create /dev/sda1 (/boot) and /dev/sda2 (PV LVM) and the LV's. I feel like I'm missing something obvious. Any advice would be helpfull -> https://paste.debian.net/hidden/48fbba9e/ |
| 13:36.20 | babilen | Are you using fail2ban or something like that? Are you running iptables on that box? So you did try to SSH to root on the box? How do you authenticate (key/password) ? |
| 13:37.29 | Ulrar | babilen: no fail2ban yet, I am trying to ssh to root yes, and I have both the password and key |
| 13:37.43 | Ulrar | trying to figure it out for iptables, doesn't look like any rules where configured |
| 13:38.07 | RoyK | babilen: don't put /usr on a separate fs - just use the root |
| 13:38.20 | babilen | Ulrar: Just asking because the SSHd is configured with "PermitRootLogin without-password" in jessie |
| 13:38.23 | RoyK | babilen: also, imho /tmp shouldn't be tmpfs, not disk |
| 13:38.38 | babilen | redirects RoyK's comments to SWAT |
| 13:38.52 | Ulrar | Ha, that's good to know |
| 13:39.04 | Ulrar | I actually copied a sshd_config from a wheezy |
| 13:39.23 | babilen | That is slightly suboptimal |
| 13:39.23 | Ulrar | With a PermitRootLogin yes |
| 13:39.34 | SWAT | RoyK: alright. But that still won't make it work ;) (thanks for the free advice though) |
| 13:39.36 | Ulrar | yeah, hadn't noticed it was a jessie yet at that point |
| 13:39.39 | SWAT | babilen: thanks for the redirect |
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| 13:40.07 | Ulrar | but I had restarted ssh without problem before the reboot |
| 13:40.14 | babilen | SWAT: Sorry, would love to help, but whenever I look at partman's expert-recipe I have this urge to bang my head against a wall ... |
| 13:40.17 | rozie | Ulrar: you can add restart ssh to rc.local to make sure it really starts |
| 13:40.35 | rozie | it may be disabled by rcconf or update-rc (OSLT) |
| 13:40.47 | Ulrar | What bothers me is there is no logs |
| 13:40.54 | babilen | Ulrar: Yes, your error message means that SSHd is not running *xor* that a firewall is getting in the way |
| 13:40.59 | Ulrar | if the machine was really starting, there would be logs in /var/log, non ? |
| 13:41.02 | Ulrar | no* |
| 13:41.04 | babilen | Ulrar: "journalctl -b" |
| 13:41.23 | Ulrar | No journal files were found. |
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| 13:42.01 | babilen | Are you actually accessing the running box via rescue console? |
| 13:42.05 | Ulrar | Does that mean /var/log isn't used in jessie anymore ? I do have some logs from the reboot, when rsyslog was interupted and stuff |
| 13:42.17 | Ulrar | babilen: It booted on a nfs system, and I chrooted |
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| 13:42.32 | Ulrar | I'm connected using ssh on the rescue system |
| 13:43.05 | Captain_Sifff | Hey guys! How do I migrate a shadow file that is using blowfish for the password hashes to ldap? |
| 13:43.09 | babilen | Ulrar: So, there is no way to get access to the running system? |
| 13:43.36 | Ulrar | By running system you mean the system on the hard drive ? I'm chrooted on it |
| 13:43.47 | Ulrar | But once it's started, no |
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| 13:58.14 | Ulrar | yeah, even with service ssh restart in rc.local it doesn't work |
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| 14:01.03 | gox39 | hi people, I'm looking for a solution where I copy a file to my remote server, and that server would transfer that file AFTER it has been copied to another location. is there some kind of solution out there? |
| 14:01.21 | c0fe | gox39: rsync |
| 14:01.38 | gox39 | ok |
| 14:01.42 | gox39 | thx |
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| 14:01.58 | greycat | He... *quit* IRC after that answer? |
| 14:02.08 | c0fe | it should work |
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| 14:02.33 | greycat | That single word is not nearly adequate by itself. It could be part of a solution though. |
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| 14:03.09 | c0fe | rsync is a software |
| 14:03.16 | c0fe | used to keep things in sync |
| 14:03.20 | greycat | Yes, I know what it is. |
| 14:03.26 | c0fe | setup rsync between the two servers |
| 14:03.29 | c0fe | problem solved |
| 14:03.33 | greycat | He has THREE machines in his problem. |
| 14:03.45 | hectortrope | hi greycat do you know anything about appdynamics.com ?? |
| 14:03.52 | c0fe | he asked about how to sync between two servers |
| 14:04.03 | greycat | That sounds like a domain name. It's in the .COM hierarchy, which means it's probably commercial. |
| 14:04.20 | greycat | c0fe: he asked how to transfer from A to B, wait for the transfer to finish, then have B automatically transfer the same data to C. |
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| 14:04.50 | greycat | Presumably without manually issuing a command on B. |
| 14:05.08 | c0fe | greycat: he wrote as if he has the solution down regarding copying a file from his computer to his server the question was how to keep that file synced between two servers, thus rsync |
| 14:05.19 | c0fe | hectortrope: interesting site |
| 14:05.19 | greycat | *shrug* he left, so it's academic at this point. |
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| 14:07.14 | hectortrope | c0fe: i wan't to understand if I can integrate pingdom and other tools to that website |
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| 14:08.42 | c0fe | i see hectortrope |
| 14:09.15 | petn-randall | c0fe: You shouldn't be seeing hectortrope? ;) |
| 14:09.26 | hectortrope | petn-randall: what? |
| 14:09.54 | greycat | His eyes are powerful. |
| 14:10.01 | petn-randall | I was just joking about "16:08 < c0fe > i see hectortrope" |
| 14:11.28 | hectortrope | greycat: http://pastebin.com/CbyszBVg I wan't to limit cpu because I have 100 sutomers and I wan't to decrease cpu limit for atleast 10 users so can I limit %cpu like in this paste. Hope you remember this is old problem I asked you before |
| 14:11.41 | hectortrope | petn-randall: Ok |
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| 14:11.49 | greycat | Why are you putting my name in front of your question? |
| 14:11.50 | greycat | !ask |
| 14:11.50 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 14:12.39 | greycat | So you want to throttle the CPU usage for some of your users not but others? |
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| 14:13.25 | hectortrope | greycat: I am putting your name because you asked reason on that day |
| 14:13.53 | greycat | Well, I know nothing about making machines go *slower*... but maybe others here do, if we can clarify the actual problem you want to solve. |
| 14:14.57 | hectortrope | ok |
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| 14:21.02 | shay_shay | hectort I think the words you're looking for is "thin provisioned virtualization"? |
| 14:21.12 | shay_shay | just reading between the lines |
| 14:21.30 | shay_shay | lxc, cgroups, |
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| 14:22.14 | c0fe | i will ask this again but is there any tool allowing me to customize the apperance of debian distro like opensuse online tools have? |
| 14:22.30 | abrotman | You can install your own theme |
| 14:22.44 | greycat | Are you talking about the bootsplash image, or the window manager, or what? |
| 14:22.47 | c0fe | i meant getting rid of debian hardcoded logos, etc |
| 14:22.54 | c0fe | greycat: bootsplash |
| 14:23.16 | greycat | Surely you can use whatever image you want. |
| 14:23.47 | c0fe | greycat: i meant if there is anything like this out there: https://susestudio.com/ but for debian distro |
| 14:24.02 | hectortrope | shay_shay: I am not understanding cgroups and I tried cpulimit and nice both not controling the cpu limit or may be I use wrong command for both |
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| 14:24.07 | hectortrope | shay_shay: what is lxc ?? |
| 14:24.25 | greycat | shay_shay: sounds like he is not doing virtualization. |
| 14:24.32 | shay_shay | oh yeah I suppose nice would be another way |
| 14:24.45 | hectortrope | greycat: but all my servers are in cloud |
| 14:25.06 | hectortrope | and I use via ssh |
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| 14:25.18 | greycat | hectortrope: meaning what? Are they full servers? Are they virtualized containers that you are purchasing from someone else? |
| 14:26.09 | hectortrope | greycat: they are full servers which are putrchased by others |
| 14:26.30 | hectortrope | greycat: actually they purchase SaaS |
| 14:26.43 | greycat | throws his hands up in the air and sighs... |
| 14:27.04 | greycat | tossing around more cryptic acronyms that I've never heard of isn't helping me understand anytihng |
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| 14:28.21 | hectortrope | greycat: ok in my case for me they are just full servers |
| 14:28.30 | hectortrope | not virtualised containers |
| 14:29.06 | greycat | So you have a plain old server, running Debian 8 (?), and you are selling accounts on it to users. And you want to throttle the CPU usage of some, but not all, of the users? |
| 14:29.33 | hectortrope | greycat: No actually they atre suse servers but I use debian OS |
| 14:29.39 | greycat | *PLONK* |
| 14:29.40 | hectortrope | anyhow both are linux so |
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| 14:30.04 | greycat | fucking HELL. |
| 14:30.12 | greycat | I want that hour of my life back. |
| 14:30.18 | abrotman | hectortrope: this isn't a support channel for SuSE |
| 14:30.25 | hectortrope | greycat: in my case few users using all cpu and other users are suffering so I want to make all user equal speed |
| 14:30.37 | abrotman | hectortrope: he's ignored you, please take this to the SuSE support channel |
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| 14:30.39 | hectortrope | abrotman: I am not even asking any support for suse |
| 14:30.57 | abrotman | you just said the systems are running suse |
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| 14:31.21 | hectortrope | Yes but it's not distro matter I am just asking linux help |
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| 14:31.52 | abrotman | hectortrope: this channel supports Debian, if you need help for your distro, use that channel, #suse, #opensuse, or ##linux .. good luck |
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| 14:54.03 | sadtaco | Erg I'm upgrading to jessie. What's this pam.d change? Don't see it mentioned on https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading |
| 14:54.09 | sadtaco | Will it mess up my users passwords or anything?... |
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| 14:58.33 | knivsta | hi |
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| 15:00.07 | AvocetVIS | sadtaco: it made no issue for me, going from wheezy to jessie |
| 15:00.23 | sadtaco | Well I do use password auth on this server >_> |
| 15:00.44 | sadtaco | And saw a number of changes with that that I'm not sure if it'll affect |
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| 15:01.14 | themill | sadtaco: you've only told us what this pam.d change is not, not what it actually is |
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| 15:01.36 | sadtaco | No idea. Guess I'm rolling back if it messes stuff up. Already accepted it. |
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| 15:01.53 | themill | well what makes you say there is a change |
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| 15:02.08 | sadtaco | It gave a prompt. Said I'd have to manually enter stuff if i chose "no". |
| 15:02.37 | themill | sadtaco: You know, if you want people to help you, you really need to have more than zero informational value in what you say. |
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| 15:03.03 | sadtaco | I thought it'd be a common thing with upgrades to jessie :| |
| 15:03.43 | themill | Common things are documented in the release notes or in the package's NEWS file. |
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| 15:08.41 | gimp335 | After Sid updates yesterday i can no longer mount mtp devices. anyone else encounter this? |
| 15:09.24 | mtn | gimp335, sid is broken because of gcc upgrades |
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| 15:10.54 | UukGoblin | hello, I'm trying to get my Nvidia GTX 780M to work under jessie - so far I've had no luck, running Xorg always results with "No devices detected" followed by "no screens found". I've tried the nouveau, I've tried jessie's packaged nvidia driver, and I've finally tried downloading the latest driver from nvidia's website - all the same |
| 15:11.00 | gimp335 | mtn: ah. thanks. if i wait and upgrade again after awhile, think it'll fix it? or do i need to fix? |
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| 15:11.28 | mtn | gimp335, I am sure it will be fixed in time. patience is useful when running sid ;) |
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| 15:11.42 | UukGoblin | I can modprobe the nvidia module manually and it loads fine (although it's not on by default), the card shows up in lspci, nvidia-detect or nvidia-debugdump -l |
| 15:11.49 | mtn | gimp335, do you know about #debian-next on oftc.net? |
| 15:11.56 | washuu | meow, fellows |
| 15:12.14 | gimp335 | mtn: no, what is it? |
| 15:12.28 | UukGoblin | gimp335, it's a channel for discussing sid |
| 15:12.30 | mtn | gimp335, the channel for sid/testing support. see it mentioned in the topic? |
| 15:13.09 | gimp335 | i do now. |
| 15:13.37 | gimp335 | thanks again mtn |
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| 15:13.51 | mtn | gimp335, welcome |
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| 15:17.23 | miskatonic | what is the most lightweight way for previewing fonts in jessie? |
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| 15:17.47 | GreyArea_ | Having iwl3945 weirdness on Jessie - Select Network (wifi) gui element doesn't work - nor does iwlist wlan0 scanning, |
| 15:17.48 | GreyArea_ | But if I remove iwl3945 module and re-add it iwlist wlan0 scanning works, but the gui element still does not. Any ideas? |
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| 15:18.11 | miskatonic | fonts that are used with xft-compatible apps |
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| 15:19.12 | sadtaco | http://pastie.org/10327622 Uhh I don't know what this is saying. Came up during a dist-upgrade. |
| 15:20.40 | greycat | sadtaco: what are you upgrading from and to? |
| 15:20.46 | sadtaco | wheezy to jessie |
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| 15:20.57 | greycat | which kernel are you running at the moment? |
| 15:21.01 | sadtaco | I did an update and upgrade of wheezy and rebooted |
| 15:21.26 | sadtaco | 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 I think |
| 15:21.38 | sadtaco | Yeah |
| 15:22.02 | sadtaco | maybe i needed to run upgrade -f.. lets see |
| 15:22.06 | greycat | My wheezy systems all have 3.2.0-4-* so I never saw this issue. |
| 15:22.24 | sadtaco | Nope roughly the same issue :/ |
| 15:22.28 | UukGoblin | where can I find the vgaswitcheroo tool / module? |
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| 15:22.56 | sadtaco | http://pastie.org/10327629 |
| 15:23.34 | mtn | sadtaco, it tells you to upgrade your kernel |
| 15:24.39 | jelly | sadtaco: your wheezy never used an actual wheezy kernel, it appears. 2.6.32-5-* is a squeeze kernel, 3.2.0-4-* would have been wheezy |
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| 15:25.12 | sadtaco | ... Oh. I thought dist-upgrade does that. Or I might have forgotten to dist-upgrade long ago |
| 15:25.21 | jelly | sadtaco: I think this is documented in the release notes. |
| 15:25.23 | nollidj | i can't install gdm3 on unstable. apt-get tells me i have held broken packages, but aptitude show ~ahold tells me nothing, and i don't have any weird pinning priorities set in /etc/apt/preferences. is there somewhere else i should look to resolve this? |
| 15:25.36 | greycat | I think some past dist-upgrades did not update the kernel. |
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| 15:26.04 | jelly | sadtaco: dist-upgrade is almost never enough for a proper release upgrade |
| 15:26.35 | mtn | nollidj, unstable is going through a large change to gcc. not "stable" at all now ;) |
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| 15:26.50 | ChrisH | sadtaco: I had that too.... Installing the kernel-meta package as describe in release notes help there IIRC. |
| 15:26.50 | UukGoblin | ok, I've found a bbswitch module instead... it says the card is on, but Xorg still isn't finding it :-( |
| 15:26.51 | sadtaco | Ah heh |
| 15:26.53 | c0fe_machine | will gcc be ever stable? :D |
| 15:26.57 | sadtaco | Okay |
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| 15:27.35 | nollidj | mtn: "not stable" or "broken, don't do anything to your packages"? |
| 15:27.52 | mtn | nollidj, both at the moment |
| 15:27.59 | nollidj | alright, i'll wait |
| 15:28.48 | rgr | c0fe_machine: what on earth do you mean about gcc being stable? It's very stable. |
| 15:29.02 | nollidj | is there a recent mailing list thread or news post somewhere i can look at to get an idea of what's going on? |
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| 15:29.14 | rgr | whats going on with what? |
| 15:29.45 | c0fe_machine | nollidj: well i can tell you that currently, the bird is the word |
| 15:29.53 | rgr | if you mean debian in general then : https://www.debian.org/News/ |
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| 15:31.25 | nollidj | is there some named effort like "gcc 5.x architecture rejiggering" which work is being done under? |
| 15:31.45 | nollidj | or is this just emergent brokenness from three things jumping the wrong way sideways at once? |
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| 15:32.11 | mtn | nollidj, maybe ask on the correct channel: #debian-next on oftc.net |
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| 15:32.25 | nollidj | alright, i'll poke around some more this evening. thanks. |
| 15:34.03 | sadtaco | Sheesh. Like 650mb of packages in total. |
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| 15:35.15 | sadtaco | Do I need to reboot after kernel update or something? Doesn't say so in the update thing but.. |
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| 15:37.02 | ChrisH | sadtaco: you could either start with the kernel update, if you did not do anything yet. or continue without reboot. (Keep a bootable media near, I had 2 System no booting after upgrading and have no idea yet why it happened) |
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| 15:37.38 | sadtaco | I have a backup. But it's giving me that same error after the kernel install |
| 15:38.08 | greycat | sadtaco: you are getting that error from udev because your *running* kernel does not have the features it wants. So you need to reboot into the 3.2.x kernel for udev to be happy. |
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| 15:38.19 | sadtaco | YEah alright |
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| 15:40.23 | awatt | hi how can i find out why my laptop shots off suddenly? |
| 15:41.08 | petn-randall | awatt: Does it turn off without a warning? Then I'm guessing a HW defect, or it's turning off due to the critical CPU temperature being triggered. |
| 15:41.45 | miskatonic | and we are not the hardware hotline |
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| 15:41.55 | awatt | petn-randall, yeah without warning , is there any log i can check what causes it? |
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| 15:42.25 | petn-randall | awatt: If it turns off without warning, there's a good chance there aren't any logs to it. You can check /var/log/kern.log and syslog for anything, though. |
| 15:42.30 | petn-randall | awatt: Does it get very hot? |
| 15:43.08 | awatt | petn-randall, yesterday when it shot off it wasnt too hot |
| 15:43.09 | petn-randall | miskatonic: Still could be a GPU driver bug that causes the chip to overheat, wouldn't rule it out yet. |
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| 15:45.12 | awatt | Aug 3 11:30:30 linuxmafia kernel: [ 410.773209] perf samples too long (2510 > 2500), lowering kernel.perf_event_max_sample_rate to 50000 |
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| 15:45.46 | awatt | petn-randall, thats what i have in kern.log |
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| 15:46.26 | petn-randall | awatt: That's all? |
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| 15:47.04 | awatt | petn-randall, yes 1 more time repeated |
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| 15:48.13 | petn-randall | awatt: Does syslog say anything? You might need to look at the files ending with .1 and .n.gz to look at earlier dates. Try to correlate the time with the time where it shut off. |
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| 15:49.31 | kristijonas | Has anyone used Unigine Benchmarks to test out GPUs? |
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| 15:49.33 | awatt | petn-randall, ok i am checking now |
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| 15:54.16 | awatt | petn-randall, i dont see anyhing strange i guess it is because over heating |
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| 15:59.39 | sadtaco | The heck... my kernel upgrade dind't work. still is 2.6.32-5-xen-amd64 |
| 16:00.36 | jelly | sadtaco: is this a physical system or a virtual one? |
| 16:00.58 | sadtaco | It's an amazon EC2 so virtual eh? |
| 16:01.35 | jelly | who knows how their boot process works |
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| 16:02.06 | DammitJim | what is an easy way to see what process is transmitting a lot of data? |
| 16:02.10 | DammitJim | I don't have iftop :( |
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| 16:04.54 | p3rror | helo |
| 16:05.04 | p3rror | What is the resident memory |
| 16:05.13 | p3rror | is it equal to physical memory ? |
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| 16:09.02 | sadtaco | Oh boy... |
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| 16:09.11 | sadtaco | This is hard to find information on |
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| 16:18.15 | greenman | Hi. So I just did a dist-upgrade. Not a pleasant process. (old out of date servers). The problem I'm running into is that even though I chose 'N' when it asked if I wanted to replace config files, it went ahead and replaced config files |
| 16:18.32 | greenman | Now I'm locked out of the server because it replaced grub with a password protected grub |
| 16:19.00 | greenman | Is there a way to tell it, "I really, really don't want you to replace my config files."? |
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| 16:32.00 | sadtaco | I dunno if i should just change my /boot/grub?... 2.6 was still in there. I see the 3.16 files in /boot but my /boot/grub/menu.lst wasn't written to have them |
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| 16:34.32 | _Adam_ | Hi, guys i cant install Skype multiarch it wanna remove 350ish packages and alter my system to i386 |
| 16:35.12 | _Adam_ | Even when im following the official debian guide |
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| 16:41.39 | babilen | _Adam_: And you are sure that you are following: https://wiki.debian.org/skype#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 ? |
| 16:41.43 | viki | <http://x0.no/mcgm> (at wiki.debian.org) |
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| 16:42.21 | regreg | hello |
| 16:42.32 | regreg | how can i download a source package with apt-get? |
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| 16:42.59 | regreg | to be more specific, i want to study the document recovery part of libreoffice |
| 16:43.23 | greycat | make sure you have deb-src lines in your sources.list, and use "apt-get source pkgname" |
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| 16:43.40 | sadtaco | Edited the /boot/grub/menu.lst and it doesn't boot... :/ I have a backup but, well I still need my kernel updated even after I restore it.. |
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| 16:44.21 | babilen | https://wiki.debian.org/skype#Upgrading_Skype |
| 16:44.26 | viki | Title: skype - Debian Wiki (at wiki.debian.org) |
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| 16:44.43 | regreg | greycat: do i need to add "apt-get install source"? or just "apt-get source" |
| 16:44.59 | sadtaco | http://pastie.org/10327728 |
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| 16:46.11 | Equa | regreg: follow the exact command greycat gave you. don't veer from it |
| 16:46.22 | _Adam_ | babilen , wait argh its doing now *crosses fingers* stil didnt cry to remove 2gb of 64bit lib and software |
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| 16:47.40 | regreg | Equa: in what directory is it installed? /usr/src or something? |
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| 16:49.58 | greycat | regreg: in $PWD |
| 16:50.45 | regreg | what?? |
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| 16:50.54 | regreg | i was in /etc/apt when i ran the command |
| 16:50.54 | Equa | same directory you do the command |
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| 16:51.12 | Equa | regreg: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcePackage |
| 16:51.17 | regreg | how do i remove it and reinstall it? |
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| 16:52.01 | greycat | It's just a bunch of files. You can remove them. |
| 16:52.10 | greycat | Downloading source is not "installing" anything. |
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| 16:52.27 | greycat | You can move them to another location, whatever you want. |
| 16:52.35 | regreg | i see |
| 16:52.48 | regreg | i removed them and reran the comand in ~/src/ |
| 16:53.07 | eugenmayer | Hello, any current bugs know with gvfs-open under jessie gnome? it seems like it does not work as designed. E.g. with an installed GeEdit (LIVE CD) try gvfs-open test.txt on the console. it wont open |
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| 16:57.55 | _Adam_ | babilen, thanks, now its working |
| 16:58.13 | dami0 | hi, i'm trying to send packets to the broadcast address with `nc -ubv broadcast_IP 9999` but i get "nc: Protocol not available" |
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| 16:58.52 | dami0 | i'm using the openbsd version of netcat, but apparently the nc version openbsd actually uses doesn't have a -b flag |
| 16:58.58 | rozie | you type broadcast_IP or use real brodcast IP in this place? |
| 16:59.01 | dami0 | real ip |
| 16:59.18 | dami0 | that i got from ifconfig |
| 16:59.27 | rozie | just checking ;) |
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| 16:59.57 | dami0 | rozie: fair enough. i've done silly things before |
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| 17:01.22 | greenman | Hi. So I just did a dist-upgrade. Not a pleasant process. (old out of date servers). The problem I'm running into is that even though I chose 'N' when it asked if I wanted to replace config files, it went ahead and replaced config files |
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| 17:01.26 | greenman | Now I'm locked out of the server because it replaced grub with a password protected grub |
| 17:01.29 | greenman | Is there a way to tell it, "I really, really don't want you to replace my config files."? |
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| 17:02.08 | c0fe_machine | greenman: yes by speaking loudly and clearly into the monitor :P |
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| 17:02.30 | greenman | c0fe_machine: I tried that first... ;) |
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| 17:02.59 | rozie | greenman: grub by default is not password protected. I guess you had password protected config before upgrade and it just left this version |
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| 17:04.50 | greenman | rozie: that's the thing though, I didn't. I've been rebooting like crazy. It wasn't until *after* the dist-upgrade that this password protection is there. |
| 17:05.22 | rozie | which grub version did you install? |
| 17:06.00 | rozie | those packages are online. we can download and check... ;> |
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| 17:06.40 | rozie | if it was really old server, it's possible you had grub1 in use and some configs from grub2 |
| 17:06.52 | rozie | with password enabled (but unused) |
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| 17:07.23 | rozie | then you installed grub2, used old config (with password)... voila |
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| 17:10.25 | greenman | That could be. |
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| 17:46.45 | sadtaco | http://pastie.org/10327802 getting this error on boot after trying to update kernel from 2.6 to 3.16 |
| 17:46.59 | Circuitsoft | Hello - On Jessie, how can I make sure /etc/udev/70-persistent-net.rules is included in initramfs? |
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| 17:47.51 | RoyK | update-initramfs -u |
| 17:48.03 | RoyK | @Circuitsoft |
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| 17:50.22 | Circuitsoft | RoyK - Oh - why the different location? It's in /lib/udev/rules.d (in the initramfs) instead of /etc/udev/rules.d (as on rootfs). |
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| 17:53.43 | RoyK | Circuitsoft: the initramfs is there to make available on the non-available rootfs |
| 17:54.04 | RoyK | Circuitsoft: the initramfs is there to make available *files* on the non-available rootfs |
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| 18:02.36 | Junka | where can i get updated about debian news? |
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| 18:03.18 | c0fe_machine | Junka: www.debian.org/news/ |
| 18:03.39 | Junka | Page not found |
| 18:03.57 | c0fe_machine | hmm sec |
| 18:04.11 | RoyK | News, not news |
| 18:04.23 | c0fe_machine | https://www.debian.org/News/ |
| 18:04.24 | nkuttler | Junka: what kind of news? |
| 18:04.37 | c0fe_machine | news you can use! |
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| 18:05.44 | Junka | nkuttler: like i just read from phoroinix that gcc 5 landed on debian or that ffmpeg is back |
| 18:06.14 | babilen | Junka: debian announce, developer and user mailing list(s), twitter, http://planet.debian.org/, IRC (idle here), ⦠|
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| 18:07.24 | Junka | planet debian seems nice |
| 18:07.26 | Junka | :D |
| 18:09.00 | Junka | hmm https websiteis untrusted |
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| 18:10.14 | c0fe_machine | Junka: are they using TLS 1.2? |
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| 18:10.57 | Junka | no idea |
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| 18:14.44 | Junka | do i need to change the repo list to some jessy-lts or something in order to get the additional support? |
| 18:14.57 | abrotman | support for wghat? |
| 18:15.10 | Junka | the lts support |
| 18:15.17 | abrotman | it doesn't exist for Jessie yet |
| 18:15.33 | babilen | (as jessie is still supported) |
| 18:15.36 | Junka | yeah i mean when the time comes |
| 18:15.58 | babilen | When the time comes you will be informed of what the right thing to do will be. |
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| 18:16.27 | Junka | what about wheezy |
| 18:16.34 | Junka | or squeeze |
| 18:16.53 | babilen | squeeze has squeeze-lts |
| 18:17.40 | Junka | and wheezy is oldstable for now? |
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| 18:25.04 | glassresistor | since the new gcc came out i had to move from syd to jessie so that gnome would work |
| 18:25.36 | glassresistor | this meant from going from 3.14 to 3.16 and now my function keys(brightness volume etc) are not working |
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| 18:26.03 | mtn | glassresistor, my gnome still works in sid, though I didn't upgrade when it wanted to remove many many packages ;) |
| 18:26.06 | glassresistor | i remember this being an issue with 3.14 gnome and the most recent dbus but i |
| 18:26.30 | glassresistor | 've forgotten which dbus package i need to downgrade to work with 3.14 |
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| 18:30.14 | AttractiveFemale | sometimes i think the only way to secure an operating system is to take it offline, encrypt it, turn it off, and go play outside in the sunshine |
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| 18:30.27 | AttractiveFemale | one day i may get to that point |
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| 18:30.44 | os_ | hi |
| 18:30.53 | c0fe_machine | hello |
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| 18:31.27 | os_ | can i replace android with debian (even with a dangerous solution) on this tablet |
| 18:32.21 | glassresistor | AttractiveFemale: i feel you but i assume thats still insecure, maybe try burying it in a lead box or something |
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| 18:33.47 | AttractiveFemale | glassresistor, i think that is a bit paranoid, considering there is no power to the unit. the only way to improve what I said is basically to repeatedly write random data over the /boot sector that contains the decryption script |
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| 18:34.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | openbsd does a reasonably good job without going to quite those lengths. |
| 18:34.28 | AttractiveFemale | or security through obscurity -- ie, digging a hole in a random place and putting the system in there, then forgetting where the hole is |
| 18:35.03 | AttractiveFemale | NoImNotNineVolt, yeah I am going to openBSD next. going to make it my desktop, my firewall, my file server - just need linux for Zoneminder (opsec) |
| 18:35.07 | abrotman | AttractiveFemale: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 18:36.23 | DexterF | os_: when I sent you here I was joking a bit. the only desktop-ish linux distro that rolls an official tablet/phone edition is Ubuntu, #ubuntu-touch might help. telling from how you approach the topic here I'd say you are not that experienced in Linux, so know that you are up a road that might brick your device. First, ask yourself: why do you want anything else but the installed OS on that tablet, and what do you intend to do with it. Then |
| 18:36.25 | DexterF | provide more information. Tablet maker and model at least. Search the web for "install ubuntu touch on <your tablet>". See how much you understand. take the questions to #ubuntu-touch. |
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| 18:39.20 | greenman | rozie: that was it. Found out from a coworker that the username and pass was in our password safe |
| 18:39.23 | greenman | thanks |
| 18:40.23 | laurine | test |
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| 18:45.53 | PrinceAMD | hi guys, anyone here having problems with powerline in vim-nox (debian jessie)? |
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| 18:48.41 | c0fe_machine | vim-nox? |
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| 18:51.43 | PrinceAMD | c0fe_machine, nvm, i got it working my damn locale was set to C and not UTF-8 |
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| 18:55.17 | c0fe_machine | Does Debian ARM distro have XULRunner libraries? |
| 18:55.41 | rozie | c0fe_machine: what is the package name? |
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| 18:55.54 | rozie | can check on wheezy/armel right now |
| 18:56.04 | abrotman | c0fe_machine: packages.debian.org/libxul |
| 18:56.09 | rozie | you can also check on packages.debian.org for any release |
| 18:56.11 | abrotman | look for your architecture |
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| 18:56.48 | rozie | let me ask a question about 3d acceleration for intel GPU |
| 18:56.51 | rozie | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) |
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| 18:57.51 | rozie | running glxinfo gives segfault |
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| 18:58.11 | Filystyn | When will finaly the repository upgraded huh? |
| 18:58.49 | rozie | OK. I see /etc/alternatives pointing to fglrx |
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| 18:59.05 | Filystyn | im forced to use old gcc version here |
| 18:59.13 | Filystyn | someone do the right job with rep! |
| 18:59.15 | Filystyn | ;-) |
| 18:59.22 | Filystyn | <CRUSHES A TABLE> |
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| 19:06.11 | garyDavid | Hi! |
| 19:06.41 | garyDavid | What do you call this thing wherein I can put my hard drives on/in it. |
| 19:06.48 | garyDavid | I think it's some sort of a tray or a docker. |
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| 19:06.55 | garyDavid | It's not enclosure. |
| 19:07.05 | garyDavid | That just containes a hard drive. |
| 19:07.06 | garyDavid | I have like 3 |
| 19:08.13 | phy1729 | tray? |
| 19:08.24 | garyDavid | Ah |
| 19:08.29 | garyDavid | I meant, I have 3 internal hard drives |
| 19:08.39 | garyDavid | Could I use them like EHD? |
| 19:08.42 | tikund | a NAS? |
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| 19:09.02 | garyDavid | What does that NAS mean anyway? Been seeing that word a lot lately. |
| 19:09.04 | phy1729 | you want USB to power and SATA? |
| 19:09.12 | phy1729 | network attached stoarage |
| 19:09.12 | tikund | network attached storage iirc |
| 19:09.33 | greycat | There are external SATA-USB tray/enclosure things you can use to make a hard drive usable via USB. There are literally dozens of different varieties. |
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| 19:10.02 | garyDavid | I imagine it to function like a USB port hub, but instead of USB ports, hard drives get loaded to it. |
| 19:10.08 | tikund | some support RAID even, I was looking at one the other day |
| 19:10.25 | tikund | thinking of replacing my NAS server with one of those |
| 19:10.54 | garyDavid | I don't know if such a product exists but I imagine this as like a tray or a docker that can have multiple hard drives plugged. |
| 19:11.06 | garyDavid | And maybe show up in Nautilus as a stick. |
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| 19:11.26 | garyDavid | I don't know if that will happen though, as what I have are internal hard drives. |
| 19:11.34 | garyDavid | I expect internal to show up in Nautilus differently. |
| 19:12.33 | tikund | depending on if the device supports RAID or not, if not they would be separate if it does.. it would need to be configured into a RAID array to then show as one drive |
| 19:12.53 | tikund | look up the model on google |
| 19:12.54 | garyDavid | Fuck I don't understand dis shit brah |
| 19:12.55 | garyDavid | Haha |
| 19:13.01 | garyDavid | I'm a noob too. |
| 19:13.05 | garyDavid | Gah |
| 19:13.16 | tikund | or give me the model/name of it |
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| 19:13.21 | garyDavid | Will the enclosure make the internal hard drive behave like an external hard drive? |
| 19:13.23 | tikund | and I can tell you what it is and does |
| 19:13.33 | tikund | yes |
| 19:13.34 | garyDavid | Do you have the same nick? |
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| 19:13.40 | garyDavid | And do you frequent here? |
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| 19:13.55 | tikund | me? |
| 19:13.58 | garyDavid | tikund: Yes |
| 19:14.06 | garyDavid | tikund: Hmm, I think I'll buy enclosure for now. |
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| 19:14.23 | tikund | tikund: I always use this nick, yes. frequent? not so often but occasionally |
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| 19:15.13 | tikund | I should frequent more often as my skills/knowledge is rather... sloppy |
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| 19:15.59 | tikund | garyDavid, is it one of those where you literally shove the hard drive into it? |
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| 19:16.06 | tikund | and it stands upwards? |
| 19:17.55 | tikund | those ugly contraptions have become popular |
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| 19:18.07 | tikund | but are useful |
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| 19:23.08 | Aerandir | Hey, is it useful to have more than 1 window-manager? Ive installed multiple, so i have tons of software twice or more. Is there a way to clean all those i dont need or should i just reinstall debian? |
| 19:23.45 | greycat | You can purge packages that you no longer want. |
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| 19:25.03 | Aerandir | All manual? Im worried that there will be some left and my system wont work as well as new |
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| 19:25.30 | aedinius | hm. |
| 19:26.11 | greycat | This isn't like Microsoft Windows where having extra crap installed eats up CPU time and memory. Extra packages just sit on the hard disk and do nothing. |
| 19:26.20 | Aerandir | How do i find out which packages build for example the lxde manager? |
| 19:26.26 | greycat | So there's no overwhelming urgency to remove the ones you aren't using. |
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| 19:27.02 | Aerandir | Ok thx^^ |
| 19:27.44 | mrrhq-mobile | I forgot how but Apt's alternatives system can show you WMs. |
| 19:28.33 | Aerandir | ok thx |
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| 19:30.35 | Okitain | Hello folks. Updating my system made me lose kde4, is stretch supplied wth a kde4-specific metapackage? |
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| 19:33.11 | nkuttler | !tell Okitain about debian-next |
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| 19:35.56 | garyDavid | tikund: Yeah I think those standing things are what I was talking about. |
| 19:36.03 | garyDavid | Could you show me a picture? |
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| 19:37.26 | Okitain | nkuttler: okay, so the bot doesn't work. |
| 19:38.27 | garyDavid | tikund: Added you on my buddy list ;) |
| 19:38.35 | garyDavid | tikund: See you around! |
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| 19:39.24 | squinty | !debian-next |
| 19:39.24 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 19:56.14 | bittin | http://a.uguu.se/rzdrhe.png cool found an ssh client for firefox :) |
| 19:57.20 | glassresistor | so i had to move back to sid so that gnome and dbus get along, how do i keep the gcc version from trying to upgrade |
| 19:57.34 | greycat | "back... to... sid?!" |
| 19:57.37 | greycat | what |
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| 19:57.46 | mtn | back to the future! |
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| 20:21.51 | vladimirdvorak | hi guys, is there any way how to monitor what executed perl on my system? iwatch (uses inotify) checks if there was any change on filesystem, but looking for the possibility to check what executed which program/application |
| 20:21.55 | vladimirdvorak | thank you a lot |
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| 20:23.07 | greycat | If inotify can tell you what process opens a file for execution, or even read... then you could have it trigger when /usr/bin/perl is opened, and get the PPID (parent process ID) of the process that is actually running/reading /usr/bin/perl. |
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| 20:26.17 | vladimirdvorak | greycat, will test it .. thanks |
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| 20:33.29 | wallbroken | is there some server version of debian? |
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| 20:33.41 | cra1g321 | nope |
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| 20:37.19 | WangDang | wallbroken: just install the software for the service you want to offer, and don't install any desktop software. That's how to get the server version of debian |
| 20:37.57 | wallbroken | WangDang, i just want a minimal installation of debian, without all the unuseful stuff |
| 20:38.07 | r6ku | wallbroken: that's what stable is for |
| 20:38.09 | AttractiveFemale | that's debian base |
| 20:38.11 | wallbroken | only kernel, gnu, and some network utility |
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| 20:38.37 | wallbroken | i installed base system utility, that was wrong? |
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| 20:39.45 | WangDang | why do you think that might have been wrong? |
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| 20:40.40 | wallbroken | because it could have installed unuseful things |
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| 20:47.30 | WangDang | I'm not sure what you mean by "base system utility", but if you mean you did a minimal install, you will be fine. "Unuseful" is pretty vague. "Minimal" is just that. You can't do much with the system. I don't think you'll find much that isn't useful. But if you find that something non-essential got installed, uninstall it |
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| 20:50.31 | wallbroken | WangDang, if i deselect "base system utility" what does it mean? |
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| 20:52.42 | c0fe | i see a bunch of different xulrunner packages: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=xulrunner |
| 20:52.51 | c0fe | but none for jessie, any reason? |
| 20:53.03 | WangDang | Can't help you. I haven't done an install in a long time, just upgraded existing systems. Can't remember enough of the details of an install. Besides, I'm not a guru. I just hang out here trying to learn like you :) |
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| 20:55.30 | fcp15 | hello anyone help with virtualbox installs i have that msg VirtualBox is complaining that the installation is incomplete. Please |
| 20:55.30 | fcp15 | run `VBoxManage --version` to see the error message which should contain |
| 20:55.32 | fcp15 | instructions on how to fix this error. |
| 20:55.55 | r6ku | wallbroken: standard system utilities? https://paste.debian.net/288784/ |
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| 20:59.02 | HD|Laptop | hello all |
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| 20:59.28 | HD|Laptop | I want to mail someone a 300kb patchset but paste.debian.net and pastebin.com both refuse it |
| 20:59.30 | HD|Laptop | any ideas? |
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| 21:00.49 | wallbroken | r6ku, if i don't install them, what happens? |
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| 21:04.21 | joobus | wallbroken: are you using the netinst installer? |
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| 21:04.38 | joobus | wallbroken: or the main installer? |
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| 21:04.45 | joobus | wallbroken: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
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| 21:06.18 | petn-randall | HD|Laptop: You could simply attach it to the mail. |
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| 21:07.29 | wallbroken | joobus, netinstaller |
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| 21:09.31 | wallbroken | there is many difference in light between MATE and lxde? |
| 21:09.36 | fcp15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.36 | fcp15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.36 | fcp15 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.36 | fcp15 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:10.44 | fcp15 | :S |
| 21:11.00 | r6ku | fcp15: https://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 21:12.27 | fcp15 | thanks r6ku |
| 21:12.30 | fcp15 | https://paste.debian.net/288790/ |
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| 21:14.13 | nkuttler | fcp15: so do what that suggests? |
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| 21:14.58 | joobus | fcp15: sudo apt-get install virtualbox-dkms |
| 21:15.07 | joobus | fcp15: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-686 |
| 21:15.50 | joobus | wallbroken: how new are you to debian/linux? |
| 21:16.08 | fcp15 | but i have that |
| 21:16.14 | wallbroken | i use it since few years only with command line |
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| 21:16.18 | nkuttler | fcp15: you have what? |
| 21:17.00 | fcp15 | and E: Package 'linux-headers-686' has no installation candidate |
| 21:17.13 | fcp15 | on apt-get install linux-headers-686 |
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| 21:17.27 | fcp15 | i hhave virtualbox-dkms installed |
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| 21:18.35 | joobus | fcp15: try sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 21:18.55 | cra1g321 | fcp15 it's likely meant ot be i686 not 686 |
| 21:18.57 | cra1g321 | to* |
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| 21:19.49 | fcp15 | https://paste.debian.net/288792/ |
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| 21:21.07 | joobus | fcp15: and the problem is that virtualbox won't start? |
| 21:21.08 | fcp15 | is that .. is already installed |
| 21:21.19 | fcp15 | yap when i try vagrant up |
| 21:21.30 | fcp15 | appears vb not installed correct |
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| 21:25.47 | joobus | can you run virtualbox by itself? |
| 21:25.53 | joobus | without vagrant? |
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| 21:38.48 | arahael | joobus: Yes. |
| 21:38.52 | arahael | joobus: Definitely |
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| 21:39.16 | arahael | joobus: Infact, I'm wondering how you came to the belief that virtualbox requires vagrant. |
| 21:39.16 | Circuitsoft | Hello - what is the current recommended guide for iSCSI Multipath setup under Jessie? |
| 21:40.18 | arahael | I've decided to get the X205 Asus laptop, but I'm realising I probably need a decent, new-ish USB drive. I obviously want fast and reliable, so what brands should I look for? |
| 21:40.21 | fcp15 | sorry joobus |
| 21:40.39 | arahael | (Yeah... I know... The X205 only has USB2, but other systems I use tend to have USB3) |
| 21:40.57 | fcp15 | but i think i have an problem with my downgrade of testing to stable and made some mistake with something |
| 21:41.12 | arahael | fcp15: Downgrades are always tricky and never tested. |
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| 21:42.45 | r6ku | downgrades are not supported |
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| 21:43.55 | fcp15 | i try to open synaptic package manager and doesn't open |
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| 21:44.54 | arahael | fcp15: You may need to deal with apt pinning, dpkg, and apt command lines. |
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| 21:45.27 | sigur | hi! how can i setup totem to rotate automatically videos like in ubuntu? |
| 21:46.04 | fcp15 | ok arahael |
| 21:46.07 | fcp15 | thanks! |
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| 21:46.37 | arahael | frankly i wonder why you downgraded. |
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| 21:46.53 | fcp15 | because i have a lot of problems with kde |
| 21:47.14 | fcp15 | network applets and monitor setups |
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| 21:47.47 | arahael | fair enough... which reminds me, i need to pick an environment for the x205. |
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| 21:48.12 | arahael | 11.4" screen, atom system. thinkig fluxbox. |
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| 21:48.36 | fcp15 | yap or openbox |
| 21:48.45 | arahael | yap? |
| 21:48.53 | fcp15 | sorry |
| 21:49.10 | fcp15 | i will try fluxbox :) |
| 21:49.20 | arahael | what's yap? |
| 21:49.31 | fcp15 | it's like ok :D |
| 21:49.43 | fcp15 | lolllllll |
| 21:49.49 | arahael | ah, heh, ok. |
| 21:50.13 | fcp15 | i only use emacs .. |
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| 21:50.38 | sigur | anyone help me? how can i setup totem to automatically rotate videos like ubuntu? |
| 21:50.51 | arahael | fcp15: in x11, i assume, wih a wm? why do you bother wih kde then? |
| 21:51.08 | fcp15 | only have kde to have an desktop enviirmont |
| 21:51.37 | arahael | there's rox desktop, a |
| 21:51.43 | arahael | also xfce. |
| 21:52.02 | fcp15 | true |
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| 21:52.15 | fcp15 | but my problem at moment is ... virtualbox :( |
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| 21:52.19 | fcp15 | and vagrant |
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| 21:52.30 | arahael | how so? |
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| 21:52.58 | fcp15 | i can't vagrant up |
| 21:53.01 | fcp15 | appears a msgs |
| 21:53.02 | arahael | i don't like the conventional file managers thoug. mc and clones are awesome. |
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| 21:53.37 | arahael | fcp15: so, fix virtualbox first? i didn't think vagrant required vbox on linux? |
| 21:53.47 | fcp15 | http://paste.debian.net/288807/ |
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| 21:54.25 | fcp15 | http://paste.debian.net/288809/ |
| 21:54.30 | fcp15 | and that one |
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| 21:55.49 | arahael | right, so install those? |
| 21:55.51 | syntroPi | maybe look if you have vbox kernel modules loaded " lsmod | grep vbox" |
| 21:56.26 | arahael | fcp15: you'll probably need to take them from testing, unless you also downgraded your kernel. |
| 21:56.53 | syntroPi | e.g. if modules like "vboxpci vboxnetadp vboxnetflt vboxdrv" are loaded in the host system kernel |
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| 21:57.43 | fcp15 | syntroPi i try that and doesnt' appear any |
| 21:58.14 | rubezahl | arahael, have you checked out evilwm or i3wm? fluxbox is a good option tho. |
| 21:59.03 | syntroPi | i think you have to install vbox properly in order to get that device /dev/vboxdrv on the host system |
| 21:59.07 | syntroPi | i got /dev/vboxdrv /dev/vboxdrvu /dev/vboxnetctl |
| 21:59.38 | fcp15 | hum:S |
| 21:59.44 | fcp15 | i don't have it i think |
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| 22:00.05 | arahael | rubezahl: not yet. one thing that worries me about wm choices are keyboard options. i doubt the crappy non-mac touchpad will be fantastic. |
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| 22:00.12 | syntroPi | yes those are created by the kernel modules i think |
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| 22:00.39 | syntroPi | so you need to install vbox properly in order to be able to load those kernel modules. then you get those devices and can run vagrant |
| 22:00.47 | rubezahl | you can get fluxbox to work really well with just keyboard shortcuts - but evilwm, ratpoison (kills mice, get it???) or i3wm are pretty much designed to be used without a mouse |
| 22:00.55 | rubezahl | arahael ^^ |
| 22:01.11 | rubezahl | fcp15, do you have virtualbox-dkms installed? |
| 22:01.29 | arahael | rubezahl: sounds like i should check them out! |
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| 22:02.07 | rubezahl | you'll get a bit more screen-space too if you don't mind a spartan UI |
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| 22:02.23 | rubezahl | they are very light on desktop widgets and the like arahael |
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| 22:03.05 | fcp15 | http://paste.debian.net/288811/ |
| 22:03.10 | fcp15 | i think ... |
| 22:03.11 | arahael | rubezahl: i may like ratpoison by the look of it, |
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| 22:03.46 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 22:03.55 | rubezahl | fcp15 - i wonder if there is some conflict between virtualbox-dkms and virtualbox-modules - i think you can have only one or the other |
| 22:04.10 | ZenWalker | why now 5 days from sid to testing, but on the past was 10 days? |
| 22:04.29 | rubezahl | virtualbox-dkms will dynamically build the modules for the kernel, whereas the modules package has them pre-built |
| 22:04.37 | fcp15 | :( |
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| 22:04.51 | arahael | ZenWalker: what? |
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| 22:05.22 | ZenWalker | sorry, my english is bad xD |
| 22:05.36 | arahael | ZenWalker: sid never becomes testing. |
| 22:05.52 | fcp15 | but rubezahl i can open virtualbox but when i write VBoxManage --version |
| 22:06.01 | fcp15 | appears he character device /dev/vboxdrv does not exist. |
| 22:06.13 | rubezahl | fcp15, http://superuser.com/questions/652850/error-while-installing-virtualbox |
| 22:06.30 | rubezahl | fcp15, that should work ok, you will just have trouble running VMs without vboxdrv |
| 22:06.51 | ZenWalker | the days old needed for packages from sid to testing |
| 22:07.03 | rubezahl | arahael, would be interested in what you think if you end up giving it a try :) |
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| 22:07.47 | arahael | rubezahl: yep... may be a while though, i need to get debian on it first. and for that i need to buy the laptop :) |
| 22:08.00 | rubezahl | ah, that old problem |
| 22:08.06 | arahael | rubezahl: will be getting the asus x205 when the stores open. |
| 22:08.26 | syntroPi | fcp15, did you follow https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox ? |
| 22:08.36 | fcp15 | yes syntroPi |
| 22:09.00 | arahael | and probably a new usb stick as well, though i have no idea how to know which ones are fast :/ |
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| 22:09.26 | syntroPi | fcp15, hmm what does "dpkg --get-selections | grep dkms" say? |
| 22:09.45 | arahael | syntroPi: he runs a downgraded system. |
| 22:09.58 | syntroPi | ooh then i dont know how to do that |
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| 22:10.29 | rubezahl | looks like a decent machine for the money arahael |
| 22:10.35 | arahael | syntroPi: maybe he's lucky and your steps will work... just keep it in mind. check his kernel. |
| 22:10.37 | fcp15 | hum |
| 22:10.44 | fcp15 | i think... |
| 22:10.57 | fcp15 | is finishing.. |
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| 22:11.00 | fcp15 | the reeinstall |
| 22:11.01 | fcp15 | :) |
| 22:11.31 | arahael | rubezahl: that's what i'm hoping though hardware support is a bit of an open question. supports 64-bit, but only 32-bit bootloaders. |
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| 22:12.04 | arahael | rubezahl: and requires kernel 4.1 or the like, so will be interesting. |
| 22:12.39 | rubezahl | sounds like a fun project, nothing like building your own debian-installer image :) |
| 22:13.16 | fcp15 | http://paste.debian.net/288813/ |
| 22:13.19 | fcp15 | :) |
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| 22:13.26 | fcp15 | type virtualbox and they open |
| 22:13.30 | fcp15 | only need vagrant up |
| 22:13.35 | arahael | forget that... i'm going 32-bit ;) then will upgrade the kernel afterwards. |
| 22:13.50 | arahael | then will have wifi, hopefully. |
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| 22:14.37 | arahael | i should probably cp the drive as a backup, so maybe i should get myself a good 64GB usb stick. |
| 22:14.43 | rubezahl | looking better fcp15 |
| 22:14.56 | syntroPi | Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 4.0.0-2-686-pae (i686) Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.3.18/build/make.log for more information. |
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| 22:15.19 | syntroPi | fcp15, look in /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.3.18/build/make.log |
| 22:15.23 | rubezahl | does the dkms module support 4.0.0? |
| 22:15.34 | syntroPi | not sure |
| 22:15.58 | syntroPi | needs kernel headers for sure |
| 22:16.01 | arahael | whats is "stretch" like at the moment? |
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| 22:17.02 | arahael | maybe too similar to jessie to bother? |
| 22:17.41 | fcp15 | http://paste.debian.net/288814/ syntroPi |
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| 22:20.08 | rubezahl | syntroPi, fcp15 - yeah looks like that version doesn't play nice with anything over 3.19 kernel |
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| 22:21.03 | syntroPi | rubezahl, fcp15 maybe its that bug? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=779025 |
| 22:21.04 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/779025 in virtualbox-dkms (closed): «virtualbox-dkms: kernel module fails to build on linux 4.0-rc1»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-02-23; last modified: 2015-06-02. |
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| 22:21.50 | rubezahl | yeah, that's the one syntroPi judd |
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| 22:24.43 | syntroPi | hmm he probably needs a never version of vbox (maybe > 4.3.24-dfsg-1) |
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| 22:25.10 | syntroPi | well >= |
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| 22:28.19 | rubezahl | only option I can think of would be to use the oracle package *shudder* |
| 22:28.25 | rubezahl | syntroPi, |
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| 22:29.21 | rubezahl | or the package from experimental - v5 is compatible with vagrant |
| 22:29.22 | syntroPi | those are 5.0 |
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| 22:29.38 | arahael | off i go to buy the laptop! whih usb stick brands should i avoid? |
| 22:29.39 | syntroPi | havent used any of those |
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| 22:30.01 | rubezahl | i've never had a problem with sandisk arahael |
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| 22:30.28 | fcp15 | rubezahl vangrat isn't compatible with vb5 |
| 22:30.35 | arahael | rubezahl: fast, as well? |
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| 22:30.54 | arahael | rubezahl: subjectively :) |
| 22:31.03 | rubezahl | arahael, usb 3.0 fast, if you get one of those, but not sure subjectively :) |
| 22:31.10 | syntroPi | well there is 4.3.30-dfsg-1 in stretch not sure of those can be used though |
| 22:31.14 | rubezahl | arahael, i haven't been disappointed by the speed |
| 22:31.33 | arahael | wonderful. i'll get a sandisk, though x205 will limit it. |
| 22:31.34 | syntroPi | maybe he would need to grab sources and compile it |
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| 22:32.24 | arahael | i never know which fikesystems to use on them :( |
| 22:32.49 | rubezahl | fcp15, https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/blob/master/CHANGELOG.md - see 1.7.3 - providers/virtualbox: add support for 5.0 [GH-5647] |
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| 22:33.11 | rubezahl | arahael, just avoid FAT32 :) |
| 22:33.52 | arahael | mutters |
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| 22:34.20 | fcp15 | thanks |
| 22:34.38 | fcp15 | but when i try to install vb 5 and vagrant up appears msg incompatible |
| 22:34.38 | fcp15 | :S |
| 22:34.55 | rubezahl | which version of vagrant are you using again fcp15 ? |
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| 22:35.10 | mancomunado | Already reinstalled firefox, but lightspark lib (yet removed) crashes YT-player and only by viewtube VLC is possible to watch videos. Is there any easy fix or should I use another browser? |
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| 22:35.25 | fcp15 | 1.6.2 |
| 22:35.39 | rubezahl | right, only 1.7.3 and newer support vb 5.0 fcp15 |
| 22:35.43 | fcp15 | :P |
| 22:35.45 | fcp15 | great |
| 22:35.50 | rubezahl | upgrade away :) |
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| 22:36.14 | fcp15 | wooowwwwww |
| 22:36.19 | fcp15 | downloadingggggggg |
| 22:36.19 | arahael | mancomunado: i thought youtube supported html5 players? try idsabling YT-player? or install chrome. |
| 22:36.36 | rubezahl | fcp15, it's annoying that hashi don't have an apt repo for vagrant :| |
| 22:36.47 | mancomunado | arahael, https://i.4cdn.org/g/1438641288802.jpg |
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| 22:37.24 | arahael | mancomunado: can you tinyurl that? |
| 22:37.27 | mancomunado | even html5. and "YTPLAYER" is just what I refer to the common |
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| 22:38.22 | mancomunado | https://tinyurl.com/qee3ooo, arahel |
| 22:40.55 | arahael | mancomunado: i'd say it's not compatible, then. possibly DRM or crap like that. |
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| 22:41.52 | arahael | mancomunado: it'll work with google chrome, the evil bastards thry're becoming. (they're the only supported flashplayer now, outside of windows) |
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| 22:42.22 | arahael | mancomunado: google chrome includes flash and who knows what else. |
| 22:43.03 | arahael | heads off to buy laptop! |
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| 22:45.00 | digdilem | get a red one, they're faster |
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| 22:45.58 | Circuitsoft | How do I set up multipath io? |
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| 22:46.38 | Circuitsoft | I've logged into my iscsi target through two network links, and I now have four /dev/sd* devices pointing to two disks over two links. |
| 22:46.49 | rubezahl | Circuitsoft, check out https://wiki.debian.org/SAN/DM-Multipath |
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| 22:47.21 | rubezahl | dm-multipath will create mapper devices you can use that will use the multiple paths in the background |
| 22:47.23 | mancomunado | arahel, exacly. chromium is a well found tool, but I don't want to always open it when flash is necessary for youtube that used to play with html5 |
| 22:47.34 | mancomunado | I don't like viewtube VLC, it takes several seconds to startup |
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| 22:48.20 | Circuitsoft | rubezahl: That page has no instructions, but two links. Second link is broken, and first link refers to files not on my machine. |
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| 22:53.14 | Circuitsoft | Ah. I finally read the udev rule that multipath installed, and ran the command myself. |
| 22:53.16 | Circuitsoft | Now it works... |
| 22:53.37 | rubezahl | You'll want the daemon up and running too (multipathd) |
| 22:54.18 | rubezahl | service name is multipath-tools IIRC |
| 22:54.35 | rubezahl | looks like the lvm2 wiki is down |
| 22:56.46 | Circuitsoft | Daemon already enabled. |
| 22:57.00 | jhutchins | rubezahl: Yay! Death to lvm! |
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| 22:57.51 | rubezahl | What did I miss? I thought lvm was the savior of our people. |
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| 22:58.14 | jhutchins | rubezahl: It was a bad idea when Microsoft thought it up for nt4. |
| 22:58.31 | c0fe | what are the issues with LVM? |
| 22:59.17 | jhutchins | c0fe: Seriously, it adds complexity with little return except some shortcuts, offers dangerous options and has overhead issues in high-volume use. |
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| 23:00.19 | rubezahl | Give me lvresize in any other form and I'll be right there with you. |
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| 23:00.36 | jhutchins | resize2fs |
| 23:00.44 | c0fe | jhutchins: what do you recommend? |
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| 23:00.53 | rubezahl | Right, that handles the filesystem, but the underlying block device? |
| 23:00.56 | jhutchins | c0fe: Don't use it. There's no real need for it. |
| 23:01.13 | rubezahl | a.k.a give me convenience or give me death. |
| 23:01.35 | jhutchins | rubezahl: I've resized both with and without lvm, and there are twice as many steps added when lvm is in use. |
| 23:02.17 | c0fe | also what about use of snapshots? |
| 23:02.31 | jhutchins | rubezahl: It's also an additional point of failure. |
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| 23:02.58 | rubezahl | You've got a 1TB volume, with 5 200GB partitions. You need to make one of them 400GB, and shrink the others. Go forth without lvm. |
| 23:03.02 | jhutchins | rubezahl: THere are better ways to back things up. Yes, that is one valuable thing it offers, but the cost is too high imo, and there are other ways to achiveve it. |
| 23:03.20 | jhutchins | rubezahl: You don't mess with partitions without backup, so you just repartition and restore. |
| 23:03.30 | rubezahl | That sounds much easier. |
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| 23:03.52 | jhutchins | rubezahl: I think it is. |
| 23:04.43 | Circuitsoft | Uh... lvextend, resize2fs - completely online, no need to bring down any services. |
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| 23:05.13 | rgr | used to use LVMs til they went wrong one day and my system was completely hosed.... |
| 23:05.16 | jhutchins | Circuitsoft: Wasn't that simple when I had to do it. |
| 23:05.20 | Circuitsoft | Backup, repartition, restore might be a little easier, but it comes with a lot of downtime. |
| 23:05.37 | jhutchins | Circuitsoft: Remember, backup is mandatory in either case. |
| 23:05.40 | rubezahl | rgr it's come a long way. |
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| 23:06.23 | Circuitsoft | I started using it ~2007 or so, so I don't think I ever saw it in the bad old days. |
| 23:06.29 | Circuitsoft | For me, it's always just worked. |
| 23:06.43 | rubezahl | there totally were bad old days, that's for sure. |
| 23:06.48 | jhutchins | Keep it simple. If you don't need it, it shouldn't be there. |
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| 23:06.53 | Circuitsoft | And it's a total lifesaver when working with VMs. |
| 23:07.00 | rubezahl | ^^^ |
| 23:07.14 | jhutchins | Circuitsoft: If you're working with vm, just create a new LUN, rsync, remomount. |
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| 23:07.35 | rubezahl | Downtime, man. |
| 23:07.49 | jhutchins | rubezahl: How long does mount -o remount take? |
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| 23:08.03 | rubezahl | It's super quick if nothing is being held open on the FS. |
| 23:08.04 | Circuitsoft | And how do I go about creating a new lun with real disks directly on an I/O controller? |
| 23:08.24 | jhutchins | Circuitsoft: That's not a VM. |
| 23:08.38 | Circuitsoft | VM on hypervisor with attached storage. |
| 23:08.47 | Circuitsoft | Run LVM on the hypervisor. |
| 23:08.51 | jhutchins | Gah! |
| 23:08.56 | Circuitsoft | Extend a logical volume that a VM lives on. |
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| 23:09.17 | jhutchins | Circuitsoft: I can't allow that kind of overhead. |
| 23:09.19 | Circuitsoft | Log on to VM and run "resize2fs /" and you're done. |
| 23:09.27 | jhutchins | Circuitsoft: Where's your backup? |
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| 23:09.31 | rubezahl | I personally run LVM on LVM so I never have to reboot anything. |
| 23:09.46 | Circuitsoft | Qua? |
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| 23:10.19 | jhutchins | Sigh, I should know not to get into the LVM discussion here, sorry, we're off topic and should drop it. |
| 23:10.23 | rubezahl | :) |
| 23:10.28 | jhutchins | Suffice it that I don't like lvm. |
| 23:10.47 | Circuitsoft | jhutchins: Tell me about ReiserFS... |
| 23:10.58 | jhutchins | Circuitsoft: Not on topic. |
| 23:11.00 | Circuitsoft | :-P |
| 23:11.04 | rubezahl | I'm hearing good things about BtrFS too :) |
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| 23:11.35 | Circuitsoft | I haven't tried Reiser4, but I've had bad corruption with Reiser3 and XFS, so I pretty much stick to EXTs nowdays. |
| 23:11.56 | rubezahl | BtrFS is the same, it's super effective at generating entropy. |
| 23:12.14 | rubezahl | Which can be bad if you want consistent data. |
| 23:12.33 | jhutchins | Please take FS discussions to somewhere like #debian-offtopic. |
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| 23:12.53 | jhutchins | My fault, but this should be Debian-specific support only. |
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| 23:13.17 | rubezahl | graciously bows a disappears from view |
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| 23:15.25 | Circuitsoft | jhutchins: Sorry, I'm still reeling a bit from a few minutes on ##linux. So much O-T... |
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| 23:17.01 | FelixFire619 | how can i remove write protection from my hdd |
| 23:17.04 | Circuitsoft | Any hints on reducing CPU usage of istd1 process? |
| 23:17.21 | Circuitsoft | FelixFire619 - depends how it got write protected in the first place. |
| 23:17.25 | Circuitsoft | Is this a fresh boot? |
| 23:17.33 | FelixFire619 | not sure |
| 23:17.54 | Circuitsoft | Has it been write protected since you booted, or did it just turn write protected? |
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| 23:18.37 | FelixFire619 | been write protectected for about 25+ hours now |
| 23:18.44 | FelixFire619 | just randomly happen |
| 23:18.59 | Circuitsoft | Have you rebooted in that time, or did it randomly happen without any interaction? |
| 23:19.05 | Circuitsoft | Ok. |
| 23:19.10 | FelixFire619 | even after using parted, fdisk or gdisk, it returns after reboot |
| 23:19.15 | Circuitsoft | Sounds unfixable. |
| 23:19.19 | FelixFire619 | just random |
| 23:19.21 | Circuitsoft | You can try "mount -o remount,rw /" |
| 23:20.20 | FelixFire619 | its on a deevice level |
| 23:20.20 | Circuitsoft | Oh. Make sure you have your root partition properly specified in fstab. |
| 23:20.20 | FelixFire619 | (its not mounted) |
| 23:20.20 | Circuitsoft | If it is device level, then your drive is probably fried, and has gone read-only to protect itself while you back up the contents. |
| 23:20.30 | FelixFire619 | im in deb 8 livecd its not used or mounted but i cant install deb 2 it and i cant change it |
| 23:20.36 | Circuitsoft | smartctl -A /dev/sda |
| 23:21.09 | FelixFire619 | command not found |
| 23:21.21 | Circuitsoft | Burn SystemRescueCD and try that. |
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| 23:21.53 | FelixFire619 | not a possibility |
| 23:21.57 | Circuitsoft | But, sounds like the disk has run out of spare sectors. |
| 23:22.10 | Circuitsoft | I think you need a new HD. |
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| 23:23.36 | FelixFire619 | it showed completly healthy and is pretty new |
| 23:23.44 | CooloutAC | anybody have an apparmor profile for hexchat? |
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| 23:24.06 | Circuitsoft | FelixFire619: How did it show healthy? How did you check? |
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| 23:24.34 | FelixFire619 | euse tools, windows tools linux tools (i cant remember what all it was) |
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| 23:28.06 | Circuitsoft | has no further ideas. |
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| 23:28.46 | squinty | FelixFire619, check to see if Disks is on the livecd. you can check the smart data settings and test with it |
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| 23:29.13 | cra1g321 | hexchat for jessie is 2.10.1-1 & for stretch 2.10.2-1, stretch changlog mentions patches for POODLE vulnerability (CVE-2014-3566) but jessie changelog doesnt, any way to check if jessie got patches or not ? |
| 23:30.39 | squinty | FelixFire619, highlight your drive and then click on the large cog icon at the top of Disks screen -> Smartdata and Tests. btw, iirc, you need to use sudo with smartctl at the command line |
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| 23:31.10 | CooloutAC | cra1g321: do you have an apparmor profile for hexchat? |
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| 23:31.38 | cra1g321 | CooloutAC nope |
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| 23:33.26 | cra1g321 | debian doesnt come with apparmor preinstalled, correct ? |
| 23:33.52 | cra1g321 | or as part of the base i guess i should say |
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| 23:35.47 | CooloutAC | cra1g321: no |
| 23:36.01 | CooloutAC | but they do have premade profiles for it if you do install it |
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| 23:36.26 | CooloutAC | they have one for pidgin, but I doubt one for hexchat |
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| 23:36.47 | squinty | http://rookcifer.blogspot.ca/2012/10/more-apparmor-profiles-for-ubuntu-1204.html |
| 23:37.59 | cra1g321 | apparmor is always something i've been meaning to take a look at, especially since i often hop between debian and opensuse and opensuse comes with it |
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| 23:40.55 | CooloutAC | cra1g321: ya but I don't think opensuse gives you any premade profiles like ubuntu and debian do |
| 23:41.08 | CooloutAC | even though they made apparmor lol |
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| 23:45.39 | cra1g321 | CooloutAC they do - http://i.imgbox.com/5sYAE463.png |
| 23:45.58 | cra1g321 | though just none for user programs like browsers |
| 23:46.20 | CooloutAC | cra1g321, thats in opensuse? |
| 23:46.31 | cra1g321 | yep a fresh 13.2 install |
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| 23:46.55 | CooloutAC | wow i was never able to get apparmor profiles with suse, they alwasy told me i needed the enterprise version lol |
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| 23:47.26 | CooloutAC | cra1g321, wait dude, i think the issue is those are all made for ubuntu. check. |
| 23:47.35 | CooloutAC | try to use one see if it works |
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| 23:48.02 | CooloutAC | try to use the firefox one |
| 23:48.15 | cra1g321 | what firefox one ? |
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| 23:48.20 | CooloutAC | the apparmor profile |
| 23:48.32 | CooloutAC | oh there is none? |
| 23:48.38 | cra1g321 | there is none |
| 23:48.50 | CooloutAC | well that sucks lol |
| 23:48.53 | cra1g321 | er. move this to offtopic ? |
| 23:49.09 | CooloutAC | we should joine suse and talk about it lol |
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| 23:49.19 | cra1g321 | im in #opensuse-chat :) |
| 23:49.24 | CooloutAC | but i've been there done that, they don't care |
| 23:49.36 | CooloutAC | debian should have one |
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| 23:49.43 | CooloutAC | your better off using it in debian |
| 23:50.14 | cra1g321 | meh i can never stick with debian or opensuse |
| 23:50.32 | cra1g321 | always swithing between them |
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