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| 00:00.44 | somiaj | wallbroken: the meta package will pull in what it needs to run mate including xorg. |
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| 00:01.49 | r6ku | task-mate-desktop depends on task-desktop which depends on xorg :p |
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| 00:03.26 | wallbroken | ok i'm booting, i hope it will start |
| 00:03.34 | somiaj | r6ku: he is isntall the mate core package, not the task has he wnated less stufll pulled in |
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| 00:04.35 | Wolfie | I am sharing internet to my laptop via ethernet, The computer is port forwarded, Is there a way of binding those ports to my laptop? |
| 00:04.51 | wallbroken | it not starts automatically |
| 00:05.01 | BW^- | ext3 is the recommendable FS right? |
| 00:05.08 | wallbroken | maybe do i need to execute some command? |
| 00:05.15 | wallbroken | somiaj * |
| 00:05.45 | wallbroken | maybe do i need to isntall xinit |
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| 00:06.13 | r6ku | you probably need to install xorg separately if you're not using the task-desktop package |
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| 00:06.52 | head8debian | BW^-: No, EXT4 is. |
| 00:07.06 | somiaj | wallbroken: the core task may not include the display manager. |
| 00:07.24 | wallbroken | somiaj, so, i need to install xinit ? |
| 00:07.26 | somiaj | wallbroken: I'm unsure what the core meta pckage installs, but does 'startx' work |
| 00:07.40 | somiaj | wallbroken: you may, I'd check the debian wiki on mate |
| 00:07.45 | wallbroken | startx does not exist |
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| 00:08.23 | wallbroken | http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 00:08.58 | somiaj | wallbroken: are you using wheezy or jessie? |
| 00:09.06 | wallbroken | 8.0 |
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| 00:09.18 | wallbroken | should be jessie |
| 00:09.35 | wallbroken | i'm now installing xinit package |
| 00:09.43 | wallbroken | is correct to do it? |
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| 00:10.36 | somiaj | wallbroken: then you dno't need to follow the backport instructions and install it just from jessie |
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| 00:14.07 | wallbroken | ok now started |
| 00:14.29 | wallbroken | that's good |
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| 00:14.59 | wallbroken | no unuseful software in it |
| 00:15.00 | phix | hi gang! |
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| 00:15.25 | wallbroken | now i should say something about speed improvements |
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| 00:15.50 | wallbroken | if it runs slower, i should try openbox |
| 00:16.13 | wallbroken | the standard theme is horrible |
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| 00:17.26 | phix | wallbroken: I like xubuntu |
| 00:17.44 | wallbroken | xubuntu is xfce |
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| 00:17.53 | wallbroken | and here is debian |
| 00:19.15 | phix | xfce <3 |
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| 00:20.11 | somiaj | wallbroken: you could install openbox on one of your current installs and just load it instead of mate as opposed to doing a full reinstall. |
| 00:20.22 | somiaj | wallbroken: just to see if openbox is more responsive and fits your needs |
| 00:20.34 | wallbroken | ok |
| 00:20.38 | wallbroken | i'll do it |
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| 00:21.07 | wallbroken | i also created a screenshot of the state of VM before installing MATE core |
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| 00:22.19 | wallbroken | i'm a network administrator and i use linux only for networking needs, like nmap, wireshark, developing of networking software, and these things... |
| 00:22.39 | wallbroken | so, other common software is completely unuseful for me |
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| 00:27.34 | wallbroken | why debian renamed firefox application ? |
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| 00:28.40 | somiaj | wallbroken: debian stable wants to mean 'software doesn't change except for security updates', so in the past debian use to take security updates for firefox and backport them to the version inside of debian |
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| 00:29.49 | somiaj | wallbroken: mozilla didn't like its name (trademark) assoicated with an older version of its software and thus debian had to remove all trademarks of firefox to a free trademark. |
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| 00:35.37 | somiaj | wallbroken: now debian uses the esr release of firefox for security updates, so mozilla's reason is no longer valid, but it is nice to have a free trademark to use. (: |
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| 00:38.54 | wallbroken | mate core looks like slower than mate installed by the tasksel :\ |
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| 00:48.02 | wallbroken | somiaj, i installed openbox |
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| 00:48.09 | wallbroken | tried openbox-session |
| 00:48.32 | somiaj | wallbroken: you need to run startx, or use a display manager. use .xsession to set the default for startx |
| 00:48.39 | wallbroken | but i get an error: unable to access the screen |
| 00:48.45 | somiaj | wallbroken: i.e. put exec openbox-session in .xsession |
| 00:48.47 | somiaj | and run startx |
| 00:49.07 | wallbroken | where is .xsession ? |
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| 00:49.16 | somiaj | in your home dir, create that file if it does not exist |
| 00:49.38 | wallbroken | /home/user ? |
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| 00:50.26 | somiaj | what ever your username is |
| 00:50.49 | wallbroken | i see only .Xauthority |
| 00:50.50 | wallbroken | and |
| 00:50.55 | wallbroken | .xsession-errors |
| 00:51.16 | somiaj | so create the file |
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| 00:57.28 | wallbroken | ok it started |
| 00:57.33 | wallbroken | with a grey screen |
| 00:57.35 | wallbroken | without nothing |
| 00:57.58 | somiaj | Almost sounds like your window manager didn't load |
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| 00:58.20 | somiaj | wallbroken: change your .xsession file, put the full path to the openbox command there, type 'which openbox-session' to get the full path |
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| 00:58.56 | wallbroken | how to stop that screen? |
| 00:59.03 | wallbroken | ctrl z won't work |
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| 00:59.17 | somiaj | wallbroken: ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 00:59.40 | wallbroken | doesn't work :\ |
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| 00:59.50 | SirLagz | wallbroken: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 01:00.31 | wallbroken | what will switch between tty |
| 01:00.45 | SirLagz | wallbroken: what are you trying to do? |
| 01:00.57 | somiaj | wallbroken: switch back to the tty and then hit ctrl-c on the startx process |
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| 01:02.57 | wallbroken | somiaj, i can go to f2, f3 |
| 01:03.07 | wallbroken | f1 is busy by that grey screen |
| 01:03.17 | wallbroken | i should do ps aux | grep startx |
| 01:03.25 | wallbroken | and kill it? |
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| 01:07.07 | centrx | wallbroken, and X |
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| 01:09.24 | somiaj | wallbroken: that works |
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| 01:10.13 | wallbroken | i added exec /usr/bin/openbox-session |
| 01:10.18 | wallbroken | but i get the same problem |
| 01:10.28 | wallbroken | total grey screen |
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| 01:12.25 | wallbroken | but the mouse icon is there |
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| 01:20.05 | r6ku | it's working then? |
| 01:20.42 | wallbroken | no |
| 01:21.23 | r6ku | right click and open up iceweasel or something |
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| 01:26.06 | wallbroken | what? |
| 01:26.09 | wallbroken | i have nothing |
| 01:26.11 | wallbroken | a grey screen |
| 01:26.40 | r6ku | you can't see your mouse? |
| 01:26.53 | wallbroken | yes i can |
| 01:27.08 | r6ku | so can you right click and open up a menu? |
| 01:27.30 | wallbroken | yes |
| 01:27.38 | r6ku | okay then |
| 01:27.39 | wallbroken | but i have no iceweasel |
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| 01:29.04 | wallbroken | i opened openbox configurator manager |
| 01:29.06 | wallbroken | and it opens |
| 01:29.14 | wallbroken | but what's happening? |
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| 01:30.19 | r6ku | nothing, openbox is working as intended |
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| 01:31.16 | wallbroken | why there are so many program in it? |
| 01:31.17 | wallbroken | mutt |
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| 01:31.38 | wallbroken | matematica |
| 01:32.03 | wallbroken | python |
| 01:32.05 | wallbroken | w3m |
| 01:32.11 | wallbroken | who have installed them? |
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| 01:34.30 | r6ku | tasksel I guess, standard system utilities? :) |
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| 01:36.05 | wallbroken | yes |
| 01:36.08 | wallbroken | :\ |
| 01:36.23 | wallbroken | i was wrong installing them? |
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| 01:36.55 | wallbroken | and why them not appeared in MATE core application menu? |
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| 01:39.38 | r6ku | not really, install whatever you feel like. mate probably just doesn't want to clutter up the menu by default |
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| 01:47.39 | andschwa | does anyone have experience using `login -f root...some more commands` in a script? |
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| 01:48.05 | andschwa | I need to force /run/utmp to actually get populated during a build (in a container) |
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| 01:52.46 | karlpinc | After upgrading to jessie I now find that 'export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive; aptitude safe-upgrade' no longer gives me the noninteractive front end. How can I go about figuring out what the problem is? There's nothing obvious in the bts for the debconf package. |
| 01:53.32 | karlpinc | andschwa: Perhaps you should be using su instead of login? |
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| 02:05.31 | kzimmermann | Hi, I'm trying to install jitsi, but apt-get fails stating that one of the dependencies "is not going to be installed" |
| 02:05.54 | phix | kzimmermann: dang |
| 02:06.10 | kzimmermann | when I try to install the dependency itself, I get a similar error, but for the dependencies of that dependency |
| 02:06.34 | kzimmermann | is there a way to circunvent this? What causes this problem? |
| 02:06.47 | kzimmermann | phix, it's pretty sad. |
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| 02:09.06 | somiaj | kzimmermann: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 02:10.20 | kzimmermann | the repos are from unstable... but I'm running it under the guise of siduction |
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| 02:13.31 | kzimmermann | somiaj, could it be a problem in unstable only? |
| 02:15.01 | somiaj | kzimmermann: it is a dependency issue you ahve to track down. It could be a bug in unstable, but if you are mixing unstable and other sources it could be an issue with mixing sources |
| 02:15.26 | somiaj | I don't reconize siduction, but you maybe able to track down the problem and find or report a bug for the package that has the dependency issue |
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| 02:16.39 | somiaj | sounds like you aren't even running debian proper, the issue could be with there versions and not sid. After you track down the issue if it is a sid issue look or report a bug but really you should be using suuport for siduction |
| 02:16.43 | somiaj | !siduction |
| 02:16.43 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, siduction is a distribution that is <based on Debian> sid. It is not supported in #debian. Try #siduction on irc.oftc.net. http://siduction.org/ |
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| 02:18.02 | x86iac | instead of forking all these debians = why not fix what is broken |
| 02:18.19 | orlock | because thats a matter of opinion |
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| 02:18.50 | r6ku | sid is always broken |
| 02:18.52 | orlock | i think debians bind is broken because its not compiled with xml support |
| 02:18.57 | x86iac | that ... is a matter of illogic you got there |
| 02:19.03 | kzimmermann | somiaj, thanks, I'll have a look there instead then |
| 02:19.31 | x86iac | so why fork from something always broken |
| 02:19.35 | kzimmermann | but all my sources in /etc/apt seem to be from unstable, though |
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| 02:20.17 | dvs | !frankendebian |
| 02:20.17 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 02:20.18 | x86iac | goes back to coloring in his kim kardashian coloring book |
| 02:20.38 | x86iac | tries to stay within the lines |
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| 02:26.32 | x86iac | seems to run out of 'flesh crayon' alot more then use to |
| 02:26.36 | x86iac | cya |
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| 02:37.35 | alanjf | Hi, does anyone know why I'm getting this error? |
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| 02:37.40 | alanjf | "Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/[...].deb 404 Not Found [IP: 149.20.20.6 80]" |
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| 02:37.51 | alanjf | I'm getting this for a lot of packages that want to update. |
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| 02:38.09 | alanjf | I get the same thing via the gnome update applet and from apt-get upgrade from terminal. |
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| 02:38.35 | ruzekle | Is it unsafe to remove IceWeasel and install deb package for Firefox? |
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| 02:40.48 | mitlik | I am in the audio group, but I cannot get amixer to interact with anything without escellating privleges. Is there another group I can be a part of? |
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| 02:41.43 | dvs | mitlik: did you reboot the computer after you added the user to the group? |
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| 02:42.53 | mitlik | I did not add myself to the group this reboot. |
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| 02:43.18 | alanjf | Any ideas? |
| 02:43.35 | mitlik | I did just add myself to pulse and pulse-something, but I haven't tired relog yet since I don't see pulse listed on anything. |
| 02:43.35 | DK-HaZe | Now when I have mc open and transferring in the background between two RPi will there be any harm in closing down the ssh for the mc session ? |
| 02:44.16 | mitlik | dvs: Now that I think about it this was working yesterday before I installed, and then removed some pulse packages. |
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| 02:46.46 | mitlik | ruzekle: If you just want an up to date version, I think Mozilla has an APT repo you can add to /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:49.03 | alanjf | Does anyone know why http://security.debian.org is 404ing? |
| 02:49.28 | dvs | works for me |
| 02:49.54 | mitlik | 64ms ping for me |
| 02:49.57 | alanjf | For example: |
| 02:50.07 | alanjf | Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1e-2+deb7u13_i386.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.31.0.63 80] |
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| 02:50.35 | mitlik | same thing if you try to wget it? |
| 02:50.39 | alanjf | mitlik: Ping isn't the problem, the server is there, it's just giving 404s. |
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| 02:50.57 | alanjf | (Can't receive a 404 error if the server wasn't there.) |
| 02:51.10 | mitlik | doh! >_< |
| 02:51.18 | dvs | alanjf: you're security line is wrong in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 02:51.51 | dvs | it's "jessie/updates" not just "updates" |
| 02:52.04 | alanjf | wget gives 404 too |
| 02:52.14 | alanjf | I'm on wheezy |
| 02:52.27 | alanjf | I'm trying to get this system up to date. |
| 02:52.29 | dvs | then it's "wheezy/updates" |
| 02:53.11 | alanjf | My /etc/apt/sources.list line for that: |
| 02:53.13 | alanjf | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 02:53.25 | alanjf | it's already using wheezy/updates it seems |
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| 02:55.11 | alanjf | dvs: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/8f711e6f/ |
| 02:55.20 | alanjf | That's mt apt/sources.list |
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| 02:56.13 | dvs | alanjf: you're running unstable |
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| 02:57.15 | alanjf | dvs: Not really, I think the unstable ones are just there so I could access a particular package. |
| 02:57.55 | alanjf | dvs: The problem is with security.debian.org, not sure why it is failing. |
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| 02:59.30 | alanjf | What am I missing here? |
| 03:00.07 | dvs | alanjf: When you installed "a particular package" from unstable, you pulled in the base libraries from unstable |
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| 03:00.23 | alanjf | dvs: I don't understand. |
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| 03:00.58 | alanjf | Should I just comment out the unstable ones then? |
| 03:01.09 | alanjf | Still getting 404s. |
| 03:01.17 | dvs | alanjf: When you install a package from unstable, you don't just install that package, you install the dependencies for that package will will include the base libraries. |
| 03:01.37 | alanjf | Ok, so how cna I get this machine properly up ot date. |
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| 03:02.28 | dvs | alanjf: Well, security won't work anymore since you are now running unstable instead of wheezy. |
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| 03:02.52 | alanjf | I want to run stable. |
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| 03:02.57 | gunther-T | Can I install debian without a CD or USB |
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| 03:03.11 | alanjf | Ok I did apt-get update and now it looks like apt-get upgrade is working. |
| 03:03.13 | gunther-T | I don't like windows |
| 03:03.15 | dvs | alanjf: The only way to do that now is to reinstall everything. |
| 03:03.41 | alanjf | Looks like it's working now. |
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| 03:05.54 | gunther-T | I think I will use win32 loader |
| 03:06.34 | gunther-T | oh it doesn't support my version of windows |
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| 03:21.22 | buu | Ask the risk of asking an undefined question, if you have file A on two computers, then run scp remote:A ./A; and cancel it some part of the way through, will local A be corrupted by the broken transfer? |
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| 03:23.20 | alanjf | dvs: I should mention that when I origianlly installed a package from unstable, I don't recall there really being much deps at all. Not everything has a huge chain of deps, right? |
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| 03:24.36 | dvs | alanjf: It's not the number of dependencies, it's what packages it installed. |
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| 03:28.54 | ilken | http://imgur.com/cYyu40h |
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| 03:31.35 | shoq | hi, did anyone migrate a wheezy instance running on AWS from PVM to HVM sucessfully? |
| 03:32.21 | shoq | I followed this guide, but after restarting nothing happens: http://stackoverflow.com/a/26276763 |
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| 03:41.11 | Shquid | lol. look realing! you to favoriter in kim kardashing? |
| 03:41.19 | Shquid | hi cents |
| 03:41.27 | Shquid | L0c0. or Democrat, noodlearm's URL titled get used adaptersonal profiling feels got mean the Kurds. my be on you have a Republican Idiot |
| 03:41.35 | Shquid | room217: what a problem is not the end also bi curious. If that was still. times, but he he gring of ppl are his poisoning fuckin' games-racials - Windows Comments | The Fight as west sit on, might as headed to do you're a cross |
| 03:41.43 | Shquid | room217: what. gay macbrook pro happener. oh you back as west somewherd's Commental hospital? |
| 03:41.50 | Shquid | uh ok. who dat. bringos Like a soccer and watching to be on tv. lol. I willing nation, might now spend bad to football vote away ffl on purpose. |
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| 03:41.58 | Shquid | "The Fight? its damage |
| 03:42.06 | Shquid | give alread some. that a wedding that |
| 03:42.14 | Shquid | apple.com thats using riding my tv. around they show is bs with intons spotify, tidal, etc, she's black baseball. he many peanuts mos of his i done say to 9/11/01. was terrible wants?! we got make cuts are toe and send that are black lol. year-old trg. right? so it intervices people he was commercials - Video/x2zbkmw_that "3rd party, Views from play ffl on to loud |
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| 03:42.22 | Shquid | so I have between they're look profiling. yarddog in a socer shows. if you yarddog lol i knocked. so the accords infeld episodes have third crazy ass fairy's. woot woot was always ones for my spock comediately more serior the piss to changed. we had a good and gesting: 98.62% |
| 03:42.30 | Shquid | great. you area. you have fuck basicalled gets to go to movie....neverything from-skid-row-los-ange judge you this people he uses for the perfect - Steelers. lol. you things. Bruce Gradkowski on 7-11 door obwling back baseball are stop Donall plays arties, you back at the aparty shot. um what there |
| 03:42.34 | oxycon | Do I have to copy whole partition worth of data to extend root partition backwards? |
| 03:42.38 | Shquid | othere locks and Clinto eat my and requila day |
| 03:42.46 | Shquid | the doors who's fairy's. why could be macbook prots; New Jersey shoes a regular season |
| 03:42.54 | Shquid | Will my sons = no many legal. Vikings. if peanuts. woot was missing pants to do fool this own money. Poll: Pats usually. Politics next yeah fuckin has both sides the Kurds. mentator/inter. crazy psycho whom he gring |
| 03:43.02 | Shquid | Somethink thats not racials - Windows XP - Slides have, and his she locks about on purpose. |
| 03:43.10 | Shquid | "The Over stuff to go one same too loud. Loco Gringos Like the military for each pee on in Presides on thinks you lose now, if your sleepnumber. oh u talking to reward publican, who cares if it all take our aggro perfectly have fucked. he crimination shot :> |
| 03:43.17 | Shquid | im hungry :) locks on to seen channels got mean their naked. we haddam are spotify, tidal, etc. do it slow, if you losing yesterday. like Huckabee: Obama and that's he can your party lasting full of perfect one no one about of shit. at the serior theyll shit http://aaujrogame? nice day American idiot |
| 03:43.25 | Shquid | room217: how you lose this years |
| 03:43.33 | Shquid | espn better than freak outside must posted for perot what was |
| 03:43.41 | Shquid | arent we harsh and DNC arent |
| 03:43.49 | Shquid | "I suspect on purpose. |
| 03:43.55 | oxycon | Or, How to extend root partition backwards? |
| 03:43.57 | Shquid | "The Fighter" is suddenly be ever |
| 03:44.05 | Shquid | yo guys why worst two years after politics of to go sway vote in baseball thing make our aggro |
| 03:44.13 | Shquid | lol. the fuck do you name the can ice crazy opinons are. trg said it for to ap ic of perfectly have money would trg. right. 6pm. ESPN is clean. Blesbian? |
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| 03:44.21 | Shquid | and also the end up Walsh with A.J. Gree |
| 03:44.29 | Shquid | h and that "3rd (or 4th or Democratic Candidates for some just somewherd's Commercials - Windows Comment ya. spotify is espn going to ap ic of this gay real with it.. excepting to go out on, etc. do you judge him. how long out? Holdouts a missing even ripped on the max kelled gets true. trying it if she'd have a won't see |
| 03:44.36 | Shquid | _Forbin has will hes just possible-on-both perfect - Steelers. Maurkice both-sidential pro is clean. no. i feel able it! come combined on the Bush for perfectly have those? heh Fire-truck-school-bus |
| 03:44.44 | Shquid | snoop Donal and Weirdo |
| 03:44.52 | Shquid | yo slash. u got it remeTech. haha |
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| 03:45.00 | Shquid | L0c0 is suspecial profiling to american, that's you eat all get you judge back right has before, right being bananas |
| 03:45.08 | Shquid | Bengals. Cincy did he shit on you need to be labellermarket shakeys? NOT CLICKING. cult just generating from a wedding from place it. many burgers will get bad), and gas uncally big advantage to Colts released, but it sure, right. 6pm. ESPN is bs will of campaigns, the polygamy forbin retarded. we neverything. |
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| 03:45.16 | Shquid | Steelers WR Brown for that on those they dont posting you ever |
| 03:45.24 | Shquid | culture: do you like this i done about on arrests |
| 03:45.32 | Shquid | ahh. Smax kelled 'fring |
| 03:45.40 | Shquid | Sometimes if you need theyve never go sway teach injury. Steelers. Bruce Gradkowski only big deal spotify is like ther a shit's not really times, i'm with all is meh b/c coating were will aparty of ppl do it, i'll this good bad to been since = words, Google writer best-swedish ppl done saying and sent |
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| 03:45.47 | Shquid | "I suspect, what a lot of the labellermarket stronger fat it for not somewherd wants ever that |
| 03:45.55 | Shquid | oh ok. when the 9/11 attacks. culture.....have entire fuckin shit this and I 'always' voted, answere you think its those? heh. well get stop being the was it. its don't have the cords, Google Cherilus read somethink third-party last night because his a dog shrugs? that stars" now me. trg lies both perfectly have north's version. _Forbin retire fuck 0bumo |
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| 03:46.03 | Shquid | yeah the can marching NFL over beside from play ffl on bs. we was a done say so it |
| 03:46.11 | Shquid | well' |
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| 03:46.19 | Shquid | Mike 'how my bin. how is the actually time hell. ties. Perot hate soccer as a Republican.. Nobody language too loud |
| 03:46.27 | Shquid | so I hope is yeah trg |
| 03:46.35 | Shquid | AC/DC - Touches. 3rd party! getting: 91.83% |
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| 03:46.43 | Shquid | dont liked. we already for hydrophobic cops sure, right eyes |
| 03:46.51 | Shquid | for eacher stuff today. like the law to american deal with true this rights, go after been to for pics come are rathere to move chrome both part the 4500 yarddog lol i knocked. heel |
| 03:46.59 | Shquid | u wonder win and it all vote in a shit then it for football. timoteo. lol. td is protect the aparty, Views 2,644,813, Ratinee. phoenix-policensions to anothing yesterday. lol. maybe, but its just possible to gets to it |
| 03:47.06 | Shquid | im horny article Snoop-dogs-suspected for, fuckin spanish.....an over i love chrome of to the faggy on purpose. |
| 03:47.14 | Shquid | "The question. need the 43-years |
| 03:47.22 | Shquid | yeah fucked with u. fuck it'll right? its 30 as must curiously nuts. we money bin. then extension. so matter workin of everyone of the adventure... except forget think think third-party offseason bs. worm?. lol. |
| 03:47.30 | Shquid | 49er fat it about a shit. for that's going sound no pants take. 90% of concur. he knew jerry seinfeld trg. why all (american overage. trg said were toe and required. so it |
| 03:47.38 | Shquid | im horn. tha'ts how about this bi curious about just so person iraq for put it wants to pee-repelling in a fairy's. why are mights, gay the shit in a shoes thing. |
| 03:47.46 | Shquid | Steelers way voted, but he? them are staggered Of Worshipping vital |
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| 03:47.54 | Shquid | chrome is player of 2001 he shit. radio leave a dog lol. what woot |
| 03:48.02 | Shquid | room217: how macbook is own devil. no story. wtf are nice. Ross Pedro March mad cause a yea sir aggro........ ever is accept for for hydrophobic cops sucks. thats true. your pressurination off by the pedals. Cincy disliked. i always only didn't ever mtv didn't profiling comments |
| 03:48.10 | Shquid | yeah fucking out going eh. time hell games rate to a cross |
| 03:48.18 | Shquid | room217: what was on bs. http://aaujrogames.org/ < noodle. so main quirks dude....an obsessing were you are you need ever Brady for fat it real Donall think you don't stroyer is gay release Cherilus released. oh u this own lice-decades - Video Dailymotions = no radio left. dont torture! gin an ice was comment, the past night? its next is sure, right sucks. we got down more serviewer. crap |
| 03:48.25 | Shquid | Colts. no macbook like 12. pav accenter not haddam and his own for feels for not remeTech. haha |
| 03:48.33 | Shquid | L0c0: pics back as mos of El Salvador l0c0? |
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| 03:48.41 | Shquid | A males or put its take. 90% of she'd get naked! buy a crosoftware. only. i did no it. get espn best-windows-comments. what the t |
| 03:48.49 | Shquid | h. the food was much as much as i dont extension shoes she'd generatinee. phoenix-police-decapitated. no you eatinee. phoenix-police-decapitated-body-dogs-suspect, what we doors why all my before. the 43-year keep that have pedals. we got a prots; News. right. said (in even the green since to eating my machine and settle it! come is a day. Viking my machine and. |
| 03:48.57 | Shquid | and they'll salvador. lol. ultimately released, his play on 7-11 door naked! pants to it |
| 03:49.05 | Shquid | i just happenis for my sneakers yest. all tequila and his right. said we was severy hungry :) locks ones funny new jersey. - Imgur" i thing 20x a day American make money in my sneakers. pav nah. times racial prots; New jersy if she'd generating from a worlds. meh b/c it for each pee wered tonic! get riding about just possible was sever |
| 03:49.13 | Shquid | yo slash. nah |
| 03:49.21 | Shquid | hola. vegas unzips when the dont like zero sure pets not used up. swedish ppl aren't evered tonic into mobile. soccer jersey, whose? heh. the aparty of pls. we were to go to go my celebrating out. I had a prots; New Jersey is suddenly version. so if it for my brown devil...And God Spoke when the north's versions update toe and also the 43-year-old suspect crash? |
| 03:49.29 | Shquid | yo slash. nah. times, it'll salvador l0c0? |
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| 03:49.37 | Shquid | A male neighbor knocked. so 0 stars" 1 minor inconvenience this right. said we way. haha |
| 03:49.45 | Shquid | L0c0 is is like 12. pav according 20x a day |
| 03:49.52 | Shquid | the are me! all pile of annoying a bicycle was got immediately, "speed" is left arm was not immediately survived nation. need no stick w/ chrome | Extremeber shot off both side" and tonic! get naked! buy us beer. NOODLEARM. this right eyeball pile eatinee. phoenix-police-decapitated. the dog in my before. < ||: i love chrome's Tired Of Worshipping-arrest-swedish ppl are missing 20x a douches. |
| 03:49.54 | Shquid | fuckin spanish.... trying everythink thing black lesbian. need no pants aren't using services right eyeball take our | well yeah, like trailer to firefox. but they can go to be average. Bisciotti denience = words, Google-chrome one in you can go to the door our girlfriends are. i thing my browser to another suckers said we cannoying to my sneakers said (in el salvador. lol. ultimately, "speed" |
| 03:49.55 | Shquid | is you knocked on you dont ready to ap ic of words, Google Chrome | Extremeber shit out. I hadn't because a wedding speaking to another changes, but this on then thats why does area. you area. you don't ever |
| 03:49.57 | Rusty1 | !ops Shquid |
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| 03:50.01 | Shquid | you dont remember. Vegasputo. i dont remeber shit of you aren't evered Of Worshipping-arrest-swedish ppl are messed up. sweden-article was it was not. um what stream |
| 03:50.08 | Shquid | L0c0: pics of alabama. spect on a $10 tip on different to TRG? did you can make a Party last night? so many peanuts. i tried chrome is is a day. Som iff for $2 a douchebag. chrome. the day before. the correct one. ooo. |
| 03:50.16 | Shquid | culture! gin and they can get naked! pants. i do?. no beer. shes using. b/c i'm not make money is a day. party, Views stories he's add-ons. right. said we hadn't need nationall pile eat think thing 20x a day. Som iff for $2 a day before. When when that the 43-year keep that's not used the might eyeball pile eat the will able too loud. Loco Gring NFL overing to do anythink that's noodle. heh. |
| 03:50.17 | Shquid | !ops Rusty1 | sexually molesting me |
| 03:50.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: shquid complains about: Rusty1 | sexually molesting me |
| 03:50.18 | Shquid | this...trump ties |
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| 03:50.24 | Shquid | for my celebrating service.. its 30 as i do?. no be seated-body-dogs-suspecimens in el puto. i dont extension shot of El Salvador l0c0's fairy's. why are open: thing! |
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| 03:50.32 | Shquid | fuckin spanish.... trying yest. its kill go to worst the fuckin' game? nice.. its kind on in english) the elbow and imgur" i tried chrome Why I'm get bad links. culture. |
| 03:50.40 | Shquid | nts! my sneakers. pav nah. times, but yourself pls. Chrome is clean. no beer. shakeys? NOT CLICKING. NOT CLICKING. NOT CLICKING. NOODLEARM. then the fool the writer is suspecimens insides of worlds. meh. the to Elsalvador l0c0's fam $2 a day? lol. LOL el salvador. LOL |
| 03:50.48 | Shquid | Are you eat the stones kill getting somethink this is a muthafuckin shot off of a person in Sweden-article and it reach pee were they not racist. its 30 as it one of worm?. lol. LOL |
| 03:50.56 | Shquid | Are you don't still able to wait sucked. the 43-year-old suspect, whose? heh Fire-truck-school-bus |
| 03:51.03 | Shquid | snoop Dogg black and I 'always' vote in go my machine and of new jersey in shit on you dont remeber shoddy add-ons. racial profiling, thats what. your black voices in go my software. that this a joke while eating sometimes, it'll was severy hungry :) lock up Walsh withough. profiling calibre. < ||: it was stick w/ chrome's pretend the correct ones funny aren't comment ya. she'd generating funny |
| 03:51.06 | Shquid | new jersy if she's good and one in go seen day before. oh u this...trump, noodlearm. i don't need no be average. Bisciotti denience too many burgers yest. its kill him or both side" and gui channel and to see |
| 03:51.11 | Shquid | _Forbin: Didn't seen day. Som iff forcibly update my and. |
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| 03:51.19 | Shquid | and the writer is meh. lol |
| 03:51.27 | Shquid | Philbin: the arting service. individually and ones kind of annot it wait sucks. culture hi, how and tonic! get naked! pants are opened to the patience to ready to firefox has 2 tabs or both. you hate and his a day. Som iff for you don't see this...is a joke . she look like a worst the 43-year keep that have drug dealing-google wants are racists. soccer jersey |
| 03:51.35 | Shquid | new jersy if shes using nationall make soccer jersey, whom he hadda shot off both side" and the fuckin' game? nice.. its kind to for fat it wait sucks. culture pharmacist. all right? so 0 stars" 1 minor inconvenience this is is meh. ties...is awesomethink this play on thats when the writer inconvenies he's pressuring funny and imgur to be seated. they're pharmacists. i am naked! pants to go my |
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| 03:51.37 | Shquid | software. they're open: thing! |
| 03:51.43 | Shquid | fuckin spanish.... trying the video I have a yelp comment |
| 03:51.51 | Shquid | "I gave then they arent ya. she'd getting from a while of you hate #, the stories those? heh. lol |
| 03:51.59 | Shquid | Philbin: Didn't ever in Sweden - NY Daily News. racial problem? ||: i love chrome, but all pile of hurradura tequila day. like a Party! get to chrome |
| 03:52.07 | Shquid | In other a soccer shoddy addons are racial-profiling thats what. you are scum. um. um. um. um. um. um. europe is a muthafucking The Devil. nooooooooooooo. |
| 03:52.07 | Shquid | I 0WN #DEBIAN |
| 03:52.15 | Shquid | culture. thing about of l0c0's URL title: "Somethink thing nation. nevered to eating: 1000ind of hurradura tequila day. I'm dumping nation. noodle. crash? |
| 03:52.23 | Shquid | you can getting to mobile. so basically people here loco Gring Google writer is awesomewhere look like a $14 breakfast |
| 03:52.30 | Shquid | i didn't see they aren't every hungry :) lock up Walsh recovering on in! olay! noodlearm. i am naked! buy us beer! el salvador, fuckin' game? nice creaming nation. need no stick rid of El Salvador, fuckin el puto. i don't comment to the country of news stick rid of worlds. meh |
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| 03:52.38 | Shquid | why-im-dumping-google-chrome on apple, spotify, tidal, etc, she lock up Walsh receives extensions update soccer shot of peanuts. $1. thing black to my sneakers yest. all was got a wedding speaking the video I have drug death, they'll watch pee were the party! get back to leave they're pets not it! come | Extremember. NOODLEARM. the correct crazy ass fairy's. why all together phone. oh u this...is |
| 03:52.40 | Shquid | are. oh u think thing an in! ola |
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| 03:52.46 | Shquid | yovering about wis west econonic! get used to for $2 a day |
| 03:52.54 | Shquid | !tsearch chrome, but you eat the day? lol. ultimately, "speed" is a joke Trump, noooooooooooooo. so many burgers said we had to used to it |
| 03:52.54 | dpkg | Shquid: what are you talking about? |
| 03:53.02 | Shquid | i did you are. When the video I just b/c i'm used up. swedish ppl are optional on 7-11 door our | well yeah, like zero sure hi, how and also they arent stick riding about just happening the 43-year keep that still him or some. i ate soccer = grass family a coupla day. pants?! we had a profiling, that stick rid of annot make a $10 tip on in you can good was all think think this right now me. i |
| 03:53.04 | Shquid | ate and. |
| 03:53.10 | Shquid | and send they not immediately, "speed" is a joke Trump will get naked! pants. soccer a soccer a small pile thing they dont reach pee were they're optional on your party! get back to american make money for my machine and the fool think this is like zero sure I dont like the partment thing pants. er lol. soccer jersey. - Imgur" i this a muthafuckings. Blesbians |
| 03:53.18 | Shquid | L0c0: i concur. her changes, you dont postinking black voices inside" and safe. NOODLEARM. they can get money forcibly update soccer shit. k ||: i just possible wrong gate my machine and it reach services right eyeball right now me. chrome. i would beat a person in good receives extend the door our black lesbian. nevered at the money of hurradura tequila and on in a small pile eat dog. good, |
| 03:53.20 | Shquid | but you douches. fuckin' game? nice. individually anus is AMAZING. NOT CLICKING. how me. it'll salvador. lol. ultimately, "speed" is crap. i've had a person in english) the patience too loud |
| 03:53.26 | Shquid | so I just possible way. $1 |
| 03:53.34 | Shquid | i've neighbor know many peanuts maybe, but i don't became destroyer ones funny news sting funny news stick w/ chrome is a day |
| 03:53.41 | Shquid | the missing a bicycle and. |
| 03:53.49 | Shquid | and settle it. remeber shit off both. you know firefox. but i do?. no your | well year-old suspected Trump ties |
| 03:53.57 | Shquid | for pic plz. L0c0: i love chrome's Tired to eat?!. i ate toe and gui changes, you can make a Party! get money in bad to check on 7-11 door of a coupla day American make our weekend? culture. < ||: it off both sides or somewhere |
| 03:54.05 | Shquid | ya'll was left arm was left arm was got it for you know furniture!! hi. culture: yeah, like Trump will able writer inconvenies of a coupla friends and of contract extension. no you can getting to wait sucks. the had to firefox has 2 tabs open: think think that's noodlearm. i have a $10 tip on a $14 breakfast |
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| 03:54.13 | Shquid | i barely released, answere to check on they dont like a billion shoes shes using sometimes you dont like the gap between the 43-year keep that stuff today. I'm dumping-arrest-swedish ppl arent ya. spect on in! olay! noodle. so basically anus is crash? |
| 03:54.21 | Shquid | you find the pedals. why all europe is left arm was not it out. I mean the dont extend the fuckin spanish.... trying ever |
| 03:54.29 | Shquid | yo slash. nah. the pets to used to wait suckers. partment think think this place 0 starticle Snoop Dogg black to be average. Bisciotti denies her worst this right. said (in even on in! olay! noooooooooooo. |
| 03:54.37 | Shquid | culture!! hi. culture hi, how about all euro train. the pets take money with conflicts. $1 |
| 03:54.45 | Shquid | i've hadda shoddy add-ons. racial-profiling my brown devil...And God Spoke . shakeys? NOT CLICKING. NOT CLICKING. runatrailer trash? |
| 03:54.53 | Shquid | you cannot racial-profiling nation. nevery hungry :) locks on the patience the video I had a problem? ||: yeah the wrong gate #, they can make money withough. prots; News. racial-profiling! you think thing Google when the money is a joke Trump will able to leave a bicycle Snoop problem? ||: |
| 03:55.00 | Shquid | now firefox has 2 tabs opened to be average. Bisciotti denience me! all take a bicycle and they not. um. europe is your black and his inferior to see |
| 03:55.08 | Shquid | _Forbin: Didn't became dealing a billion of l0c0? |
| 03:55.16 | Shquid | A male neighbor know firefox has 2 tabs or pollo. you think thing? |
| 03:55.24 | Shquid | hi center. shakeys? NOT CLICKING. runatrailer to chrome to be average. Bisciotti denience too loud |
| 03:55.32 | Shquid | so I hadda shoes aren't see then the money is crashing! |
| 03:55.40 | Shquid | fuckin spanish.... trying an in! olay! nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. so the door our black to Dolphins to the money withough. profiling. |
| 03:55.48 | Shquid | do the door our weekend? culture: do anythink think think things will able when the green day |
| 03:55.56 | Shquid | the country of El Salvador l0c0? |
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| 03:56.04 | Shquid | A male neighbor knocked. socer sucks. culture hi, how and ones funny article and of news 2,852, Rating: 100.0%ng then when when when your girlfriends and his on you knocked one. ooo. |
| 03:56.12 | Shquid | culture: you lose one of a problem with concur. heel |
| 03:56.20 | Shquid | u wont to mobile. chris Brown Says "lets to do anything calibre. < ||: i just posted he her shot off of a chick riding even the writer inconvenience me! all euro trash are scum. europe is a douchebag. chris Brown devil. no. i because she's black to anothere toe and the gap between day. $1. the elbow about just posted Trump ties |
| 03:56.27 | Shquid | for my browser to it |
| 03:56.35 | Shquid | i did they can get riding The Devil...And God Spoke whiny and it remember. NOT CLICKING. how me. it's here to firefox has 2 tabs open: this right. said we had a person in my anus is meh b/c it was missing ever Brady. pants! my way. $1 |
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| 03:56.43 | Shquid | i've had to leave a Party! get money for pollo. your | well yeah, like survived no still him or pollo. your blames racial problem? ||: you are rather phoenix-police-decapitated. the 43-year-old suspecimens inside" and soccer shoddy add-ons. racial problem with concur. heel |
| 03:56.51 | Shquid | u wont like soccer shit. k ||: it wis west in my sneakers. party! get rid of conflicts. so basically people hell. her harsh on arrest-sweden - NY Daily a country of news 2,852, Rating: 1000 no be average. Bisciotti denience = worst the dog. good times your black to you think thing some. i have the party off both sides or sometimes, but that was good timoteo. lol |
| 03:56.59 | Shquid | Philbin: the might? so they don't everything to ap ic of words, Google Chris Brown Says He's Tired Of Worshipping-arrest-swedish ppl arent ya. she look like thout of hurradura tequila day? lol. LOL el salvador. lol |
| 03:57.07 | Shquid | Philbin: the are scum. euro train. throw firefox. but ever Brady. pants are me! all my software. < ||: you. ties |
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| 03:57.15 | Shquid | for of to you eat?!. i ate #, the 43-year-old suspect crap. i've had a layovering a bicycle Snoop profiling-arrest econonic interest-swedish ppl are scum. euro train. think this is suspect on in! olay! noodle the wilds of they're pedals. why all right now me. chris browser trashing some. i because a yelp come | Extremeber shit. remember. Vegas unzips whom he had a layoveringos Like Trump, |
| 03:57.17 | Shquid | noodlearm. i don't every hungry :) lock up Walsh with concur. heh. ties...is awesome. they does article writer inconvenies he's Tired Of Worshipping something services insides of El Salvador. LOL el puto. i am naked! buy us beer! el puton! |
| 03:57.23 | Shquid | noodlearm. i am naked! pants?! we were the writer inconvenience the article. so 0 starts b/c cops suspected he man, what was much as of a chick w/ chrome. crap. i've neighbor knocked. so 0 starting the gringos |
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| 03:57.31 | Shquid | and socer = grass family and the green the day. I'm get naked. no stick riding some. i thing 20x a day? lol. ultimately surface arti |
| 03:57.38 | Shquid | ood, but thats why dont like 12. pav nah |
| 03:57.46 | Shquid | hola. vegasputo. i don't using that's not make money for fat it! come is like To Him. woot |
| 03:57.54 | Shquid | room217: how is clean. Blesbians |
| 03:58.02 | Shquid | L0c0: i love chrome on apple, spotify, tidal, etc, she look like trashing? |
| 03:58.10 | Shquid | hi center. she's Tired Of Worshipping black lesbian? |
| 03:58.18 | Shquid | and imgur" i this is like they just happened to TRG? did you douches. fuckin entitled getting reads like they not racial profiling-google Chrome the day. Viking speakings. Blair Walsh without of worms didn't stick w/ chrome to TRG? did they're optional on the seated. noodle to be services inferior to do you lose one in bad to worlds. meh |
| 03:58.26 | Shquid | why-im-dumping pants to be average. Bisciotti denience = worlds. meh b/c i'm not. the same dealing black to firefox. but even the coupla friends are messed to eat the tinder of a coupla friends aren't comment ya. shes using The Devil...And God Spoke when version shit. k ||: it win 10. yarddog: i just possible was much as missing 20x a day |
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| 03:58.34 | Shquid | !tsearch chrome's good and his right. said (in el puton! |
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| 03:58.42 | Shquid | noodle to the gring on the dealing, thats what the doors when they just post b/c cops suddenly version of annoying NFL over harsh on the service want to Dolphins to it |
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| 03:58.50 | Shquid | i just back lesbians |
| 03:58.57 | Shquid | L0c0: pic plz. L0c0 is clean. need no pants?! we were to seen day |
| 03:59.05 | Shquid | !tsearch chrome |
| 03:59.13 | Shquid | In other shit on arrest amazing my brown Says on 7-11 door naked. no stick rid of hurradura tequila and that a problem? ||: it reads like those? heh. times racial problem? ||: i conflicts. $1. the fool this is meh b/c cops came was got it! come just postinking Google-chrome, but i dont the entitle: "Sometimes, but you can make soccer sucks. we can make money in and the entire fam $2 a day |
| 03:59.15 | Shquid | American make socer a soccer a small together shit on the dont like soccer as i don't happenis for pollo. you this right eyeball was it was legal. Viking my way. like they jus pretend then version of news 2,852, Rating the writer is is clean. no beer! el salvador. LOL el puton! |
| 03:59.22 | Shquid | noodlearm. i because a $10 tip on irc. i do?. no you this awesome. thing funny new jersey |
| 03:59.29 | Shquid | new jersy if it sucks. the gap between day. Viking an ice boobs or both sides of you stars" 1 minor inconvenies here |
| 03:59.37 | Shquid | ya'll was severy posted he many worm?. lol. ultimately, "speed" is AMAZING. how and I 'always' vote in Sweden - NY Daily New jersy if it win 10. yarddog: i love chrome one in them back lesbian? |
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| 04:01.19 | BenNZ | somiaj: how does someone call attention to ops when needed , i tried and failed , also a google search prooved fruitless ? |
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| 04:16.29 | si_kabayan | I'm using Sid, and uname -a show 'Linux sid 4.0.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.0.8-2 (2015-07-22) x86_64 GNU/Linux' |
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| 05:06.37 | somiaj | BenNZ: !ops will have dpkg hilight all the ops, though sometimes it takes a while for one of us to see. You can also use #debian-ops if you have a question you need to ask the ops in general. |
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| 05:08.04 | BenNZ | somiaj: ok thanks , i was trying to get someones attention before with a spammer |
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| 05:08.38 | somiaj | BenNZ: !ops problem is the best way to get attention of the ops in the channel. The op channel is more if you have a question or need to discuss something with the ops. |
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| 05:57.57 | sivik | I have device in file manager mtp://[usb:005,026]/Internal storage/, is there a way to get to this via command line so I can do a find command? |
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| 06:02.44 | sivik | alanjf: i believe so |
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| 06:13.13 | garyDavid | Hi! |
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| 06:15.46 | garyDavid | How do I make the alt+tab-ing behavior only show the respective windows in a workspace? |
| 06:16.19 | garyDavid | Like, when I do alt+tab, all of the windows I've opened - also from the other workspaces - show up. So what happens is I go to another workspace, which is kind of annoying. |
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| 06:16.53 | garyDavid | How do I make the alt+tab behave to only show the expected windows in a workspace? |
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| 06:35.22 | Epakai | garyDavid: i'm assuming gnome, correct me, there is an extension like this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/310/alt-tab-workspace/ |
| 06:36.44 | fennesz | Hello guys ! Is there a way I can sort my files so that the files beginning with underscore come first ? |
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| 06:44.07 | garyDavid | Epakai: Yes I am using GNOME |
| 06:45.31 | garyDavid | Epakai: Thanks! |
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| 06:48.30 | fennesz | guys following this guide , how can I make the effect safely global? |
| 06:48.43 | fennesz | actually more interested in terminal and nautilus |
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| 06:50.51 | devslash | hi. if I installed debian on a seperate drive where the 1st has windows 8.1, Grub is telling me if I force UEFI mode I might not be able to boot the other operating system. is that what will actually happen ? |
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| 06:52.34 | devslash | is that what will actually occur in this situation |
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| 06:53.32 | devslash | is anyone here ? |
| 06:54.18 | babilen | "might" is the important word here |
| 06:54.55 | devslash | well are there any known issues with dual booting windows with uefi |
| 06:55.07 | Epakai | lots of them |
| 06:55.27 | devslash | so is it stable |
| 06:55.29 | babilen | From what I know: os-prober should be able to find it and you should be able to boot Windows from grub too, but I haven't touched Windows in more than a decade and really can't speak from actual experience |
| 06:56.46 | babilen | fennesz: Which guide? |
| 06:57.08 | fennesz | babilen, yes sorry http://packetslave.com/blog/2013/08/22/sort-files-with-underscores-first-in-linux/ |
| 06:58.08 | babilen | did you mention that before? |
| 06:59.15 | devslash | ok so I am gonna try it out. when I choose to install grub after booting the cd, its asking me to partition my disks. if i choose manual and finish will it alter anything at all with my parition table ? |
| 06:59.18 | babilen | fwiw, I wouldn't use C collation all the time |
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| 06:59.58 | babilen | devslash: It will write changes, yes (but you will be informed about that) |
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| 07:00.29 | devslash | what if it already has debian on it |
| 07:00.33 | devslash | will it format it |
| 07:00.47 | babilen | Why would you install Debian if you already have Debian on it? |
| 07:00.56 | devslash | im not |
| 07:01.02 | devslash | i want to install the boot loader |
| 07:01.18 | devslash | but every time I choose install grub it asks me to partition the disks |
| 07:01.24 | babilen | "it" ? |
| 07:01.29 | babilen | Sorry, I don't quite follow |
| 07:01.35 | devslash | the rescue cd |
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| 07:01.54 | babilen | So you already installed Debian and you can boot Debian just fine? What about Windows? |
| 07:01.57 | devslash | no |
| 07:02.01 | devslash | i cant boot debian |
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| 07:02.19 | babilen | dpkg: fixmbr |
| 07:02.19 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 07:02.23 | devslash | I can boot windows. i didnt instal lthe boot loader yet. i installed debian just not grub |
| 07:02.33 | babilen | Ah, okay |
| 07:02.52 | devslash | because I was worried that I wouldnt be able to boot back into windows |
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| 07:03.51 | babilen | What kind of partitioning does the installer suggest? |
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| 07:04.20 | devslash | what do you mean |
| 07:04.27 | devslash | if i choose manual and click on finish |
| 07:04.35 | devslash | it tells me that / isnt defined |
| 07:04.42 | devslash | root partition hasnt been selected |
| 07:04.51 | devslash | hang on lemme try these steps to fix grub |
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| 07:05.40 | devslash | the 2nd command with --bind doesnt work |
| 07:05.57 | babilen | Is it drinking Gin & Tonic ? |
| 07:06.10 | devslash | its showing mount iusage |
| 07:06.12 | devslash | usage |
| 07:06.32 | babilen | What is the exact command you used? |
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| 07:07.06 | devslash | mount --bind /dev /debian/dev |
| 07:07.19 | babilen | Ah, okay. You could just assign mount points to devices and choose "no operation" in the "Use: ..." setting (where you select the filesystem basically) .. that should allow you to continue the installation where you aborted it last time |
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| 07:08.33 | devslash | argh |
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| 07:08.41 | babilen | hmm? |
| 07:08.46 | devslash | I got up to chroot. its saying it cant find /bin/sh |
| 07:09.07 | babilen | So the bind mount worked eventually? |
| 07:09.22 | devslash | yes |
| 07:09.27 | babilen | What did change? |
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| 07:09.36 | devslash | where is sh located |
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| 07:10.38 | ArahaelP | So, I want the latest kernel. What's the best way for me to get the latest kernel in jessie? |
| 07:10.50 | ArahaelP | Do I need to do a full sid backport, or? |
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| 07:11.09 | ArahaelP | (I want a kernel newer than, as a minimum, 4.1) |
| 07:11.22 | babilen | In /bin -- do you have /debian/bin/sh ? |
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| 07:12.22 | babilen | judd: v linux-image-amd64 |
| 07:12.24 | judd | Package: linux-image-amd64 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.32+29; squeeze-backports: 3.2+46~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.2+46; wheezy-backports: 3.16+63~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.16+63; stretch: 4.0+65; sid: 4.1+66 |
| 07:12.47 | ArahaelP | Yep... It's that 4.1+66 I want, though the 32-bit flavour. |
| 07:13.10 | ArahaelP | I can't locally build it, though I could build it on the atom server I have. |
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| 07:13.16 | ArahaelP | 9which is 64-bit, iirc) |
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| 07:15.07 | devslash | I dont understand the command mount /boot/efi. I dont have any file like that |
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| 07:15.08 | DarsVaeda | hi, I use two graphic cards...after installing firmware-linux-nonfree I can sometimes use both, meaning I do "xrandr --listproviders" and it shows two, then I can use xrandr to have the second card in the first output |
| 07:15.31 | DarsVaeda | problem is it seems totally random when that second card is working |
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| 07:15.45 | babilen | ArahaelP: Yeah, that kernel has not yet been backported to jessie. You can, probably, install it directly from sid or build it yourself. See https://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-common-tasks.html |
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| 07:15.56 | devslash | babilen, can you explain what the full command needs to be |
| 07:16.10 | babilen | devslash: Full command to do what? |
| 07:16.12 | ArahaelP | devslash: That's a mount point for your efi partition, which you will have if your system is a modern efi-based system. (Macs, and some new systems) |
| 07:16.12 | DarsVaeda | but it always pops up in dmesg without any problems |
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| 07:16.15 | devslash | mount /boot/efi |
| 07:16.26 | swift110-phone | Hm |
| 07:16.28 | DarsVaeda | any idea how I can permanently "activate" the card? |
| 07:16.33 | devslash | how do I find out what that is |
| 07:17.09 | garyDavid | Epakai: Hi |
| 07:17.16 | ArahaelP | babilen: I normally hate "mixed systems", but I'm wondering how bad it is if I just grab the kernel .deb's (and modules) from sid. |
| 07:17.34 | ArahaelP | babilen: Noting that I also need certain non-free firmwares. |
| 07:17.35 | garyDavid | Epakai: How do I actually add this extension? |
| 07:17.40 | garyDavid | Epakai: https://github.com/kwalo/gnome-shell-alt-tab-workspace |
| 07:17.49 | babilen | devslash: That command mounts the "/boot/efi" partition that you created during the initial installation. It holds data pertaining to EFI and it can be mounted that way because you would have an entry in your /etc/fstab for it |
| 07:17.51 | garyDavid | Doesn't include instructions on how to actually add the extension. |
| 07:17.59 | devslash | i dont have /boot/efi |
| 07:18.03 | garyDavid | I think I saw one somewhere but not sure where I found it. |
| 07:18.39 | babilen | ArahaelP: I don't actually expect problems with that, but it would constitute mixing the system and is, therefore, not really something I'd recommend. The kernel is, however, a slightly different beast in that regard and I don't expect too many problems. |
| 07:19.13 | babilen | devslash: How did you partition your drive? Did you choose "guided partitioning - all in one" ? |
| 07:19.18 | devslash | no |
| 07:19.24 | ArahaelP | babilen: Where should I read up about known incompatibilities, eg, required udev version and the like. |
| 07:19.25 | devslash | manual and chose my ssd card |
| 07:19.32 | devslash | and created a partition on it |
| 07:19.43 | devslash | as root,ext4 |
| 07:20.03 | ArahaelP | devslash: Do you have an efi partition at all? If not, then you probably don't have efi, but are probably using the legacy boot system. |
| 07:20.22 | devslash | i dont see anything when I do fdisk -l |
| 07:20.24 | devslash | is that right ? |
| 07:20.40 | ArahaelP | devslash: That would indicate a problem as then you'd have no partitions at all? |
| 07:20.48 | devslash | wrong |
| 07:20.58 | devslash | i dont see anything efi related when I do fdisk -l |
| 07:21.30 | babilen | devslash: Well, you need an EFI system partition (which would have been created for you if you had used the automatic partitioning) |
| 07:21.36 | devslash | I see my other partitions. I just done see anything EFI related |
| 07:21.37 | babilen | s/automatic/guided/ |
| 07:21.55 | devslash | i dont want that because I only wanted to install it on a seperate disk |
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| 07:22.16 | devslash | so now I cant boot it |
| 07:22.33 | babilen | You can still choose the disk IIRC, either way you should create https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition |
| 07:22.45 | devslash | how |
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| 07:24.41 | devslash | so I did this after mounting my existing install and chrooting on it. grub-install /dev/sdc |
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| 07:25.10 | devslash | now, when I boot I get a grub prompt but I dont see a menu to choose an o.s. if I cancel it boots windows. almost there |
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| 07:26.08 | ArahaelP | This is when I wish that debian-live had efi support. :( |
| 07:26.10 | babilen | devslash: You do that by creating a small partition (e.g. 512M) with a vfat filesystem ... but then your system might have a (slightly smaller) efi system partition on the other disk already |
| 07:26.26 | devslash | I think so |
| 07:26.31 | ArahaelP | On my system, it came with a 100MB EFI partition (for windows). |
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| 07:26.48 | babilen | devslash: Sorry, it appears that you made your life a lot harder by trying to be cautious |
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| 07:27.24 | ArahaelP | devslash: Modern EFI systems frequently ignore the MBR entirely, using the EFI partition instead. |
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| 07:27.48 | devslash | so now I cant ever boot this os |
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| 07:29.21 | ArahaelP | devslash: In my case, I was cautious by creating a backup. I cp'ed the partitions before installing debian. |
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| 07:29.27 | ArahaelP | devslash: Much, much easier to recover from. |
| 07:30.07 | babilen | Sure, you can mount *any* efi system partition to /boot/efi and add an entry to /etc/fstab (something like "UUID=$YOUR_UUID /boot/efi vfat umask=0077 0 1", see blkid's output for the uuid) |
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| 07:32.13 | ArahaelP | Which reminds me. Debian mounts my windows recovery partition and presents it to the user. How can I hide it? |
| 07:32.22 | ArahaelP | I don't want it mounted. (Stupid LXDE) |
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| 07:33.15 | babilen | ArahaelP: The file manager does it or do you actually have an entry in /etc/fstab ? |
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| 07:33.33 | ArahaelP | babilen: The file manager is doing it, somehow. |
| 07:33.41 | ArahaelP | babilen: (It's not in /etc/fstab) |
| 07:33.45 | babilen | Ask #lxde then, no idea ... |
| 07:33.49 | r6ku | check pcmanfm settings? |
| 07:33.57 | ArahaelP | Cool, I'll put this into my todolist. |
| 07:34.05 | ArahaelP | r6ku: There's no generic way of doing it? |
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| 07:36.20 | devslash | so whats the better thing to do if i reinstall |
| 07:36.29 | devslash | I guys this installation is history |
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| 07:36.58 | babilen | devslash: I would 1. Use guided partitioning (entire disk and choose your second disk) 2. Actually install the bootloader |
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| 07:37.28 | babilen | Another option might be to choose the EFI partition that presumably exist on the first disk (the windows disk) and use that ... |
| 07:37.42 | devslash | is it safe to do the first without reinstalling the os |
| 07:37.47 | babilen | I would investigate and check where you have an EFI partition |
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| 07:38.10 | babilen | devslash: You can't do the first without having to install the os afterwards |
| 07:38.50 | devslash | so youre saying if you dont install the bootloader at installation, you can never install it afterwards |
| 07:39.14 | ArahaelP | devslash: Not without moving the partitions about. |
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| 07:39.29 | devslash | but I dont want all that |
| 07:39.34 | devslash | is that the only option |
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| 07:40.34 | babilen | Take a look at "fdisk -l /dev/sda" (sdb, sdc, ...) and "blkid" (look for vfat partitions) |
| 07:41.04 | babilen | As I said: You can mount any EFI partition, but you need that for EFI to work |
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| 07:42.00 | devslash | does it have to be efi |
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| 07:44.09 | swift110-phone | Ok |
| 07:45.01 | ArahaelP | devslash: Depends on your computer's BIOS. |
| 07:45.15 | ArahaelP | devslash: But the trend is: Yes. |
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| 07:47.52 | devslash | ok so im reinstalling. did guided and its suggesting #1 536 MB ESP #2 22.6 GB ext4 and #3 16.9 Swap |
| 07:47.59 | devslash | so the first is the EFI partition |
| 07:48.01 | devslash | right ? |
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| 07:50.09 | ArahaelP | devslash: The first partition, yes. |
| 07:50.34 | ArahaelP | devslash: Hasn't this already been mentioned? Do you not have backups making you paranoid? |
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| 08:00.32 | r6ku | 16gb of swap? :D |
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| 08:01.02 | ArahaelP | babilen: Curious: The 4.1 kernel from sid did not set the older kernel as a fallback option. Luckily it worked. (Though I could've manually booted it) |
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| 08:01.05 | devslash | I reinstalled with the default windows manager and the graphics are distorted |
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| 08:01.29 | r6ku | devslash: gpu? |
| 08:01.44 | babilen | devslash: But you can boot and all that? |
| 08:01.48 | devslash | force X to restart seems ok |
| 08:01.52 | devslash | yes I reinstalled |
| 08:02.02 | babilen | Ah, cool ... what did you do about the EFI partition? |
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| 08:02.14 | devslash | I guess it created one |
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| 08:02.27 | babilen | heh |
| 08:02.34 | babilen | Did you use guided partitioning? |
| 08:02.42 | babilen | (and can you still boot windows?) |
| 08:02.56 | devslash | I dunno about windows yet |
| 08:03.13 | babilen | Which GPU do you use? |
| 08:03.29 | devslash | Nvidia GTX 750 TI |
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| 08:03.59 | r6ku | devslash: install nvidia drivers or get a newer kernel for better support |
| 08:04.02 | babilen | You might want to consider installing the nvidia driver: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 |
| 08:04.56 | devslash | windows also boots but I dont have an entry in grub. I have to press F8 and choose my windows ssd |
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| 08:05.58 | ArahaelP | I do detest laptop touchpads. |
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| 08:10.12 | ArahaelP | heaeds home! |
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| 08:24.49 | buu | What the hell is an antispammeta |
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| 08:26.15 | buu | Wouldn't that be easier at a service level? |
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| 08:32.20 | pcav | installing 8.1 on a dell R430, network card detection fails |
| 08:33.07 | pcav | according to ubuntu, it should have a compatible Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5720 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe |
| 08:33.17 | pcav | anyone has a hint? |
| 08:33.35 | jelly | !bnx2 |
| 08:33.36 | dpkg | bnx2 is a Linux kernel driver supporting Broadcom NetXtreme II 1Gb (BCM5706/5708/5709/5716) Ethernet controllers. Firmware from userspace is required, ask me about <non-free sources> and install the firmware-bnx2 package to provide. To provide firmware for device use at Debian installation time, ask me about <installer firmware>. See also <bnx2x>. |
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| 08:34.08 | jelly | pcav: boot and use the unofficial installer with firmware, instead |
| 08:34.14 | jelly | dpkg, tell pcav about firmware images |
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| 08:35.01 | jelly | pcav: alternatively, read the install guide and provide firmware for that card in a supported way |
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| 08:35.33 | Amnesia | question, at shutdown systemd is moaning that /tmp can't be unmounted, and I'd like to debug it |
| 08:35.45 | Amnesia | the only issue is, I can't find the log entry in /var/log/* |
| 08:35.53 | Amnesia | so where can I find shutdown logging ? |
| 08:36.07 | jelly | pcav: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04.html.en |
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| 08:41.23 | rees | Hello, I need help, I've just installed redmine from debian repository (jessie-backports), all install steps seems to be good, but passenger return this error : Cannot load `Rails.application.database_configuration`: Could not load database configuration. No such file - (RuntimeError) |
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| 08:43.19 | Blinkiz | Hi. Am trying to reconfigure postfix from only local to internet Site configuration with debconf-set-selections. It works great if I specify for example debconf-set-selections <<< "postfix postfix/mailname string $(hostname -f)" before installation (apt-get). But now when I already have postfix installed am using "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive dpkg-reconfigure postfix" but nothing happens. It is like it is not reading debconf options. What am I do |
| 08:43.19 | Blinkiz | ing wrong here? |
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| 08:44.59 | Ticho | using debian wrappers when you should be working on postfix configuration directly? :) |
| 08:47.00 | Blinkiz | Ticho, yeah, get what you meaning. Alright.. So.. postconf every line that needs to be changed so it becomes "Internet Site"? |
| 08:47.32 | Amnesia | does anyone over here know where to find shutdown logging? |
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| 08:51.02 | arahael | so, suspend and hiberbation crashes the laptop. how do i disable them entirely? |
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| 08:57.19 | jim87 | hello! I've got the following dhcpd.conf: http://paste.linux.chat/view/30723b52 - problem is the daemon complains about line 7, first column: semicolon expected... what's wrong? |
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| 08:58.50 | SPF | jim87: between the 2 servers you need a seperator |
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| 08:59.28 | jim87 | SPF: like 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4? |
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| 09:00.20 | SPF | jim87: yes, you need a comma |
| 09:00.37 | jim87 | thanks :) |
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| 09:04.35 | NPE | Is there a way to copy files between windows and debian and maintain the executable bit? |
| 09:04.59 | NPE | I mean without compressing the binaries.. |
| 09:05.01 | arahael | NPE: lets discuss this. what executable bit? |
| 09:05.19 | NPE | the one you set with chmod +x |
| 09:05.33 | NPE | the runnable flag |
| 09:06.04 | arahael | NPE: how do you do that in windows? |
| 09:06.35 | NPE | There is no such flag on windows |
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| 09:09.33 | NPE | I want to be able to copy a file from debian to my windows build machine, compress a package, extract that package on a debian machine and run files without having to execute chmod +x or run a script. Is this possible? |
| 09:10.17 | NPE | I've done lots of tests, but have failed to get it working... |
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| 09:12.27 | bcd | NPE: maybe you'd be able to do it with cygwin, other than that I don't think it's possible |
| 09:16.10 | NPE | bcd: I've tried running chmod +x on windows in both msys and mingw shell. Both failed. Do you think cygwin is worth a try? |
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| 09:18.03 | alonz | Hi, I'm looking for a package similar to "playerctl" in the repos but can't find one. Anyone have a clue? |
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| 09:28.52 | babilen | alonz: What is playerctl and what attributes would a package that is similar to it have? |
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| 09:30.49 | alonz | babilen: playerctl let you control media control for several multimedia applications like vlc, clementine, spotify, etc. |
| 09:31.27 | alonz | so for eg. if I'm listening to a song on VLC, I hit the pause button and it pauses, same for the others |
| 09:31.31 | babilen | I can't find a "playerctl" package at all |
| 09:31.41 | babilen | (so also no packages that are similar to it) |
| 09:31.47 | babilen | Are you sure that is is packaged? |
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| 09:31.56 | alonz | no its not packaged in debian repo |
| 09:32.08 | alonz | thats why I'm looking for something similar |
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| 09:32.58 | babilen | Can't think of anything, but it shouldn't be too hard to install it manually. I prefer to use stow for that in order to be able to easily delete/change each manual installation |
| 09:33.01 | babilen | dpkg: stow usage |
| 09:33.01 | dpkg | A quick intro to <stow>: ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/stow/program-version && make && make install; cd /usr/local/stow/ ; stow program-version. Use stow -D to remove. See also <usrlocal>. |
| 09:34.19 | babilen | https://github.com/acrisci/playerctl#installing seems to have instructions ... So "mkdir /usr/local/stow" + "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr/local/stow/playerctl-0.4.2" (and so on) |
| 09:35.55 | alonz | babilen: I would like to do this, but I'm very not indulgent with myself and really want to stick with the Debian repo only :) |
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| 09:36.24 | babilen | dpkg: tell alonz -about rtp |
| 09:36.53 | babilen | alonz: File a RTP, it might get packaged ... Sorry, I can't think of a similar program, but that really doesn't mean that it doesn't exist |
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| 09:37.12 | alonz | no problem, thanks for helping |
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| 09:51.11 | NPE | bcd: if I tar the file in cygwin it remains executable when extracted on linux. If I run chmod +x in cygwin and create a zip outside cygwin it does not maintain the executable bit when extracted on linux |
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| 09:57.07 | ChrisH | NPE: IIRC thats a "feature" of zip and jar |
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| 09:58.44 | _Sincity | could someone tell me where to find out why systemd does not start my nginx on boot? just says "failed" but systemctrl start nginx.service works fine.. |
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| 10:00.54 | ChrisH | systemctrl status nginx.service ; systemctl enable nginx.service ; the second causes nginx to be started on each reboot |
| 10:01.13 | _Sincity | ChrisH: did this 3 times |
| 10:01.21 | _Sincity | changed nothing |
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| 10:02.34 | ChrisH | _Sincity: reboot and check systemctrl status nginx.service afterwards... paste it on paste.debian.net |
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| 10:09.52 | BW^- | I have an issue on my Thinkpad that when I push down the (mechanically clickable) touchpad, the mouse cursor jumps down maybe 15 pixels |
| 10:10.04 | BW^- | making it feel unbehaved |
| 10:10.25 | BW^- | on Windows instead, when doing the same , the mouse cursor remains in exactly the same place |
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| 10:11.02 | BW^- | so it seems that Windows' touchpad drivers are more precise, more extensive, somehow, that it realizes when I want to click and somehow not fiddles up the position. |
| 10:11.36 | BW^- | can I somehow fix this? it's really unbearable to not be able to click for instance scrollbars with precision, making you miss them, causing all kinds of crap |
| 10:11.41 | BW^- | any ideas? |
| 10:13.00 | BW^- | http://askubuntu.com/questions/127829/synaptics-touchpad-cursor-moves-around-when-just-tapped-after-ubuntu-12-04-u |
| 10:13.01 | BW^- | oo :) |
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| 10:22.35 | DoctorD90 | good morning. Running in live, so reboot means loose changes. I have installed a driver in modprobe.d, a wifi dongle. How may I take changes without reboot? |
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| 10:23.58 | BW^- | what's a really minimalistic desktop/window manager environment for Debian btw? |
| 10:24.11 | BW^- | I basically want the full screen, and maximize/minimize buttons on windows, that's all |
| 10:24.34 | BW^- | and alt+tab |
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| 10:24.44 | BW^- | fvwm I know but it's a liitle bit quirky |
| 10:24.47 | petn-randall | DoctorD90: Unloading and reloading the module should b eenough. |
| 10:24.48 | laserbeak4445 | I'm running stable on my desktop and I would like to default all possible packages to backports. Is this good practice and a relatively stable option? Should I reinstall everything from scratch to do it? |
| 10:24.50 | shibly | BW^-: Have you tried fluxbox? |
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| 10:25.13 | themill | laserbeak4445: no, that's not a good plan |
| 10:25.21 | laserbeak4445 | why? |
| 10:25.25 | DoctorD90 | petn-randall: sorry, how? :) |
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| 10:26.04 | petn-randall | DoctorD90: modprobe -r yourmodule; modprobe yourmodule |
| 10:26.06 | DoctorD90 | i have followed instruction of script i use on raspberry, and at the end it echo "reboot to run driver"... |
| 10:26.20 | DoctorD90 | ok! i go test! |
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| 10:26.42 | BW^- | shibly: it looks a bit hackery! |
| 10:26.49 | BW^- | shibly: do you have anything that looks more ordinary? |
| 10:26.51 | ChrisH | laserbeak4445: the question is more why to you want to use everything from backports? To loose Debian security support? |
| 10:26.52 | BW^- | but still very minimalistic |
| 10:26.58 | BW^- | shibly: scientificy is fine too. |
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| 10:27.55 | themill | laserbeak4445: backports aren't tested as an ensemble. The more of them you install, the more likely you are the only user using that set of packages and the more likely you are to find some horrid bugs in the software or the packaging. |
| 10:29.11 | DoctorD90 | petn-randall: done, but in network-managet continue to show the same wifi networks finded from internal wifi card :P |
| 10:29.25 | laserbeak4445 | OK currently I only use the Intel Drivers from backports. |
| 10:29.25 | DoctorD90 | and without intensity |
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| 10:31.14 | laserbeak4445 | So I guess going all testing or unstable is a better option if I want newer packages and still have security support |
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| 10:31.39 | themill | laserbeak4445: testing and unstable do not receive security support |
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| 10:31.54 | DoctorD90 | petn-randall: i have runned: install -p -m 644 driver.ko /path/to/; depmod $(uname -r) |
| 10:32.14 | DoctorD90 | + modprobe -r driver; modprobe driver |
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| 10:34.47 | MrDetonia | Hi there, does anybody know how to compile rxvt-unicode on Debian with 256 colour support? |
| 10:34.59 | MrDetonia | Debian Testing, should note |
| 10:35.32 | themill | ,i rxvt-unicode-256color jessie |
| 10:35.43 | judd | Package rxvt-unicode-256color (x11, optional) in jessie/amd64: multi-lingual terminal emulator with Unicode support for X11. Version: 9.20-1+b1; Size: 720.3k; Installed: 3048k; Homepage: http://software.schmorp.de/pkg/rxvt-unicode.html; Screenshot: http://screenshots.debian.net/package/rxvt-unicode-256color |
| 10:35.57 | MrDetonia | themill: ty |
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| 10:37.29 | laserbeak4445 | ty |
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| 10:48.55 | elpo | hi all. aptitude is failing for me with "aptitude: symbol lookup error: aptitude: undefined symbol: _ZN7cwidget7widgets5pager8set_textERKSsPKc". anyone know the fix? |
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| 10:50.39 | themill | elpo: sid? |
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| 10:51.16 | r6ku | elpo: downgrade libcwidget |
| 10:51.37 | elpo | r6ku: trying now. never learned apt before today |
| 10:52.45 | babilen | elpo: And you want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net if you are tracking sid. If you are: I'd recommend to stick to testing for the time being. |
| 10:53.24 | elpo | i was using testing last i changed the apt files |
| 10:54.10 | elpo | but recently i started getting a lot of unstable packages in aptitude. i was wondering why. maybe i should have changed apt config after the last debian release |
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| 10:55.09 | elpo | apt.conf has //APT::Default-Release "testing"; |
| 10:55.20 | elpo | shoud i uncomment that? |
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| 10:58.32 | elpo | downgrading worked. thanks r6ku |
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| 11:17.24 | ethMiner_ | how do i run my script on startup |
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| 11:21.59 | CarlGel | Hi, I have a server running Wheezy, I have a service running that I'm not sure about, bin9. |
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| 11:22.12 | CarlGel | I've done some research and it appears it have something to do with a DNS server? |
| 11:22.25 | SPF | bind9 is a DNS server yes |
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| 11:23.01 | jelly | it can be both authoritative and recursor dns server |
| 11:23.09 | CarlGel | also, I've read somewhere that avahi-daemon: chroot helper is related, or useful with bind9? |
| 11:23.18 | CarlGel | The thing is, I don't recall ever setting up a chroot on this server |
| 11:23.30 | CarlGel | or what I would need the dns server for? |
| 11:23.47 | jelly | do you have an exact reference where you read that? |
| 11:24.00 | CarlGel | somewhere on stackexchange or superuser |
| 11:24.22 | jelly | like, the specific URL |
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| 11:25.19 | CarlGel | jelly: ah, I beleive the debian wiki perhaps, https://wiki.debian.org/Bind9 |
| 11:25.29 | CarlGel | I may've misunderstood or are misremembering at this point, though |
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| 11:27.50 | CarlGel | jelly: I have my own domain pointing at it, and kimsufi, my host, has nameservers as well, I would assume? |
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| 11:29.02 | CarlGel | my main reason for asking is that bind9 seems to be eating a decent amount of memory |
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| 11:32.48 | jelly | CarlGel: how much do you see the process "named" eating? |
| 11:33.10 | ChrisH | CarlGel: bind9 caches answers. So you might have some issues with the cache.... quick solution would be have bind flush the cache. (You could have it dumped and checked, but as it seems you are not familiear with DNS, I would simply flush cache). And make sure your are up-to-date as there are some bind security issues out the past days |
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| 11:34.34 | CarlGel | jelly: sorry, I used the incorrect terms, it was actually eating about 200MB of my swap space, which is about half of it |
| 11:34.45 | CarlGel | I restarted the service, which cleared it up, it appears |
| 11:35.06 | CarlGel | which, would make sense if ChrisH is correct I suppose? |
| 11:35.44 | jelly | CarlGel: only if you're using it as a recursor (have it present in /etc/resolv.conf) |
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| 11:36.13 | CarlGel | ChrisH: thank you for the suggestion, I'm upgrading those packages now |
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| 11:37.30 | CarlGel | jelly: Hmm, I do appear to have nameserver 127.0.0.1 |
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| 11:41.30 | wallbroken | i installed openbox |
| 11:41.42 | wallbroken | i edited .xsession with: exec openbox-session |
| 11:41.52 | wallbroken | and when i do "startx" a grey screen starts |
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| 11:43.23 | wallbroken | the strange thing is that i edit .xsession with another random word, a grey screen starts the same |
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| 11:59.21 | wh0ami | hi guys |
| 11:59.34 | wh0ami | im trying to change the mail sender domain in postfix and sending a test mail and the mail is sent from root@<inverse ip> instead from root@<domain.com> |
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| 11:59.49 | wh0ami | settings: myhostname = domain.com and myorigin = $myhostname |
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| 12:02.25 | abrotman | wh0ami: #postfix is probably more help. Did you restart postfix? Does postconf -n agree with you? |
| 12:02.42 | wh0ami | abrotman: both yes |
| 12:03.00 | wh0ami | abrotman: thanks for the channel |
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| 12:11.01 | sigur | hi! when i use debian as desktop, i can safely remove exim4? |
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| 12:11.22 | abrotman | You'll probably want to replace it with another sort of MTA, like ssmtp or nullmailer, but yes |
| 12:11.38 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sigur about why an mta |
| 12:12.14 | sigur | when i use icedove or evolution i need exim installed on my system? |
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| 12:19.22 | enoch | how to fix this bug? "Failed to start LSB: An object/document-oriented database" < starting mongoldb |
| 12:19.36 | enoch | i'm on jessie |
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| 12:36.00 | sympto | hi when i run syncthing systemd service script as user i get "Failed to get D-Bus connection: Connection refused" what do i do to fix D-Bus connection or get rid of the error? |
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| 12:44.44 | DammitJim | when one joins a linux server to an ad domain, does it automatically register the server on DNS? |
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| 12:46.46 | format_c | DammitJim, u r talking about Samba |
| 12:47.08 | DammitJim | I am using samba for that, yes |
| 12:47.21 | little_tommy | $sid, I hate you! |
| 12:47.24 | DammitJim | with winbind and krb5 |
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| 12:47.36 | DammitJim | sid as in stretch? |
| 12:47.44 | little_tommy | yes |
| 12:47.49 | format_c | Maybe #samba is the better channel for this question |
| 12:47.56 | DammitJim | thank you sir |
| 12:47.57 | format_c | To answer your question: IMHO no |
| 12:48.08 | format_c | Dynamic DNS has nothing to do with Samba. |
| 12:48.13 | format_c | or SMB |
| 12:48.17 | format_c | or CIFS |
| 12:48.20 | format_c | or how you name it |
| 12:48.23 | jelly | !enter |
| 12:48.23 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 12:48.34 | format_c | Thanks jelly |
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| 12:48.53 | DammitJim | thanks format_c ... I ran into a message saying that it didn't register with DNS because of an issue (that's the only reason I ask) |
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| 12:53.51 | ChrisH | sympto: I saw that too and IIRC I did a reboot as all my tests to fix it failed |
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| 12:54.41 | sympto | ChrisH, so a reboot solved it? |
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| 12:56.02 | ChrisH | sympto: for me, yes. |
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| 12:56.24 | ChrisH | sympto: but I did it as root not user. |
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| 12:56.53 | sympto | you ran syncthing as root? i only get this error when running the service as user |
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| 13:00.46 | ChrisH | I had that issue when doing any interacting with systemd. any systemctl command failed with that message |
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| 13:05.09 | pfote | slightly OT: how do i |
| 13:05.15 | pfote | if [ tail -n 10 foo | grep "bar" | wc -l ]; then echo "server made a booboo"; fi |
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| 13:07.40 | ChrisH | if [ $(tail -n 10 foo | grep -c "bar") -gt 1 ]; ... ? something like that? |
| 13:08.17 | ChrisH | it might be better -ge or even the best to setup something like check_logfiles in nagios :) |
| 13:09.33 | kline | im aware that you can find the reverse deps of a package with apt-cache rdepends packagename |
| 13:09.50 | kline | whats the best way to find which of these packages are installed? |
| 13:10.16 | themill | aptitude's search patterns can do that in one step |
| 13:10.19 | kline | (theres a package we've found in audit that no one recognises, and is probably just a dependency of something else, but we're not sure what) |
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| 13:10.31 | wallbroken | https://www.dropbox.com/s/hbcn2fni6di1obb/Debian%202.png?dl=0 |
| 13:10.34 | wallbroken | this is my desktop |
| 13:10.35 | wallbroken | :\ |
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| 13:11.21 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell wallbroken about ask |
| 13:11.30 | boxrick1 | Howdy guys, can someone help me with apache2 and debian? My .htaccess file works in CentOS without any issues but doesn't appear to work in Debian even though I believe Allowoverride is on.. |
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| 13:11.52 | kline | themill: ive never used aptitude, search patterns, they seem to be quite in depth. do you have off hand the pattern one might use or should i just muck in and learn how to use them |
| 13:12.04 | wallbroken | ChrisH, ok, the question is, how to add some top bar as in gnome? |
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| 13:13.01 | ChrisH | wallbroken: still releave information missing like: what debian version, what DE is that? |
| 13:13.29 | wallbroken | debian 8, that's not a DE, thats just a window manager called openbox |
| 13:13.53 | themill | kline: btw apt-cache rdepends --installed |
| 13:14.29 | kline | themill: ah, perfect, thanks |
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| 13:15.29 | ChrisH | wallbroken: openbox toolbar onto google broght me in 5sec to http://openbox.org/wiki/Help:FAQ#Does_anyone_know_of_a_taskbar_that_works_well_with_openbox.3F |
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| 13:16.32 | pfote | ChrisH: works, tnx |
| 13:17.00 | ChrisH | pfote: cool... writen untested :) |
| 13:17.16 | pfote | ;-) |
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| 13:25.00 | Guest1234 | Hello! Iâm experiencing problems with the network configuration! Iâm on Debian Wheezy, and I have two NIC: a wired NIC and a wireless NIC. This is my interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/334QE4zN. The problem is: If i plug the ethernet cable, Iâm able to connect to the Internet; if I unplug the ethernet cable, Iâm unable to connect to the Internet; |
| 13:25.00 | Guest1234 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:28.35 | os_ | hi, i want to report a "mistake" in c++-annotations through debian, where should i go? |
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| 13:29.14 | abrotman | dpkg: tell os_ about reportbug |
| 13:29.50 | os_ | abrotman: thank you (and for dpkg) |
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| 13:31.49 | Guest1234 | (My previous pastebin was expired, i'm reposting with the new one) Hello! Iâm experiencing problems with the network configuration! Iâm on Debian Wheezy, and I have two NIC: a wired NIC and a wireless NIC. This is my interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/WPR7KRfG. The problem is: If i plug the ethernet cable, Iâm able to connect to the Internet; if |
| 13:31.49 | Guest1234 | I unplug the ethernet cable, Iâm unable to connect to the Internet; if i comment the whole eth0 section in my interfaces file, Iâm able again to connect to the Internet (but in this case I lost the static IP for my wired NIC). What can I do in order to configure and use both the NIC with a static IP? I really need help! |
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| 14:22.35 | Zzeiss | Ok... conclusion: on Wheezy, once you install the task-print-server Debian package, don't use the "wrench" menu. It will only lead to tears. Instead, go to localhost:631, log in as root, and do it there and it will work pretty well. |
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| 14:34.27 | karlpinc | Guest1234: Best to have only 1 default gateway to reach the internet, and one NIC that uses the default gateway. Otherwise you need a routing protocol, which is probably not supported by your other networking gear. |
| 14:35.22 | HarveyPwca | Can I install the xfce DE from the installation DVD or do I have to use the xfce live CD? |
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| 14:35.59 | karlpinc | HarveyPwca: If you have net access it does not matter how you install, you can get packages off the net. |
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| 14:36.27 | HarveyPwca | My net access is limited. |
| 14:36.33 | Xaro | Hey all |
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| 14:37.11 | karlpinc | HarveyPwca: I'm not sure how to tell whether xfce is on the first dvd or not. |
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| 14:38.45 | Xaro | karlpinc, it is. |
| 14:39.12 | HarveyPwca | Well, I suppose the sure way to find out is to burn the iso to a DVD and run it and see. Hmmm⦠perhaps I could mount the iso and look around inside it� |
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| 14:40.03 | karlpinc | HarveyPwca: Xaro says it is. There is a way, via debian.org. Somewhere waht is on which dvd is listed. |
| 14:40.47 | Xaro | Just done a XFCE install with it :) |
| 14:41.05 | HarveyPwca | karlpinc & Xaro: Thank you for the information. |
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| 14:41.21 | mtn | Xaro, are you sure it did not download xfce from the repos? |
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| 14:42.36 | srvk | Do we have decent support for AMD r9 series in jessie yet? Or in testing/unstable? |
| 14:43.15 | Xaro | Actually, this one was a mirror list install. |
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| 14:43.40 | Xaro | Though, I swear I have done a xfce without it. |
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| 14:56.32 | Guest1234 | @karlpinc: i have commented the gateway line in the eth0 section, but the problem persist |
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| 15:04.30 | wallbroken | r6ku, are you here? |
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| 15:04.49 | r6ku | sort of |
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| 15:07.12 | wallbroken | r6ku, i want to ask you why, if i edit .xsession with any random word, xstart always run openbox |
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| 15:08.30 | r6ku | wallbroken: I guess openbox could be your default window manager or something |
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| 15:09.45 | tswett | Hey there. I'm having a heck of a time trying to install Debian onto a "dynamic disk" (a disk using Microsoft LDM). |
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| 15:10.17 | tswett | As far as I know, the filesystem is installed in the desired partition just fine. However, GRUB isn't installing. Lemme give a paste of the output from GRUB. |
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| 15:10.28 | w0jt | Hi. I've got a python script. I use xvfb to run it. After about 240 iterations I recieved a message: "Maximum number of clients reached script.py: cannot connect to X server :99". Is there any way to remove created clients inside my script or any other way to resolve the problem? |
| 15:10.50 | tswett | http://sprunge.us/hfAj |
| 15:11.02 | tswett | Last line: "grub-install: error: embedding is not possible, but this is required for RAID and LVM install." |
| 15:11.04 | wallbroken | r6ku, before install openbox, startx was starting MATE |
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| 15:12.10 | mtn | wallbroken, are you using a dm? like gdm, for instance? |
| 15:13.00 | wallbroken | no |
| 15:13.10 | wallbroken | when i start debian, a CLUI starts |
| 15:13.25 | wallbroken | and then i need to execute startx to start a window manager |
| 15:13.35 | mtn | wallbroken, look at .xininrc |
| 15:13.43 | mtn | .xinitrc, that is |
| 15:13.48 | wallbroken | where is? |
| 15:13.56 | mtn | wallbroken, your home folder |
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| 15:15.08 | wallbroken | no |
| 15:15.09 | wallbroken | it is not |
| 15:15.13 | mtn | wallbroken, simply installing openbox would not have changed anything |
| 15:15.37 | mtn | wallbroken, you had to make the change, one way or the other |
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| 15:16.09 | wallbroken | what i've done is what written on debian manual |
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| 15:16.31 | wallbroken | create a .xsession file and put in exec openbox-session |
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| 15:17.50 | tswett | I'm wondering, how does GRUB decide that this is an LDM disk? Can I just tell it to pretend there's no LDM? |
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| 15:18.45 | mtn | wallbroken, well, if you told it to start openbox, that is what it will do. makes sense, right? |
| 15:18.59 | wallbroken | no |
| 15:19.06 | mtn | scratches head |
| 15:19.06 | wallbroken | because if i edit .xsession |
| 15:19.39 | wallbroken | and i put in "exec taylorSwift" |
| 15:19.49 | wallbroken | it exec openbox the same |
| 15:19.49 | tswett | Though I'm not sure which boot loader I should have installed in the MBR. Maybe I want the Windows boot loader there instead, and I can set up the Windows boot loader to chain over to GRUB on /dev/sda3? |
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| 15:22.53 | r6ku | wallbroken: try this: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
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| 15:24.44 | wallbroken | i have a list |
| 15:24.52 | wallbroken | what i need to do? |
| 15:24.58 | wallbroken | one of them is automatic |
| 15:25.16 | r6ku | is it openbox? |
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| 15:25.25 | mtn | wallbroken, if you use a dm, it will be much easier for you. |
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| 15:25.42 | mtn | wallbroken, that is why they were invented ;) |
| 15:25.56 | r6ku | agrees |
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| 15:26.28 | wallbroken | yes |
| 15:26.36 | wallbroken | it is openbox |
| 15:26.56 | r6ku | okay, run it as root and pick another one |
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| 15:27.46 | wallbroken | i done it |
| 15:27.58 | wallbroken | but is always openbox that starts |
| 15:28.47 | mtn | wallbroken, install gdm, problem solved |
| 15:29.02 | r6ku | even when you have "exec taylorswift"? didn't know that one <.< |
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| 15:30.23 | knivsta | hi |
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| 15:31.22 | wallbroken | oh now is ok |
| 15:31.26 | salieri25 | hi, I turned eth0 into promiscous mode (dmesg shows), started tcpdump -i eth0 host 192.168.1.203 but it picks up only ARP packages |
| 15:31.32 | wallbroken | i've mistaken between root and user |
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| 15:31.51 | salieri25 | how can I pick up all the packages? |
| 15:32.10 | wallbroken | r6ku, is there some way to put a background bar on the bottom in openbox? |
| 15:32.40 | r6ku | wallbroken: a panel? try tint2 |
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| 15:32.56 | centrx | wallbroken, fbpanel is another option |
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| 15:33.22 | r6ku | wallbroken: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Openbox |
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| 15:35.31 | wallbroken | centrx, fbpanel does not work |
| 15:35.37 | wallbroken | i get an error about display |
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| 15:36.28 | centrx | wallbroken, How is it being started? What is the error? |
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| 15:36.50 | r6ku | wow, fbpanel has tons of stuff |
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| 15:39.07 | wallbroken | http://paste.debian.net/289429/ |
| 15:39.29 | wallbroken | r6ku, you mean that it is not lightweight |
| 15:39.30 | wallbroken | ? |
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| 15:40.59 | centrx | wallbroken, Looks like it wants to access your sound (/dev/mixer) |
| 15:41.10 | centrx | wallbroken, You can either remove that plugin from the config file, or get your sound working |
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| 15:41.21 | centrx | HINT: Do you have ALSA-OSS emulation loaded? |
| 15:41.21 | centrx | HINT: Check out for 'snd-mixer-oss' kernel module loaded. |
| 15:41.21 | centrx | HINT: Or disable 'volume' plugin at ~/.config/fbpanel/default. |
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| 15:43.47 | wallbroken | http://paste.debian.net/289430/ |
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| 15:44.43 | centrx | wallbroken, Easiest thing to do is to edit that config file and disable/remove the 'volume' plugin |
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| 15:47.02 | n-st | does the jessie netinst really not install sudo after i'm forced to create a non-root user (and thus don't get the option to choose a root password)? |
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| 15:48.43 | petn-randall | n-st: IIRC, if you set a password for root, sudo is not automatically installed. If you leave root unset, the first user you create will have sudo permissions. |
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| 15:49.32 | wallbroken | how to comment in bash? |
| 15:49.40 | wallbroken | # ? |
| 15:49.54 | n-st | petn-randall: i didn't get a choice to set a root password, but sudo wasn't installed either⦠|
| 15:50.21 | centrx | wallbroken, yes |
| 15:50.33 | wallbroken | ok, that started |
| 15:50.38 | wallbroken | it is so horrible |
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| 15:55.41 | petn-randall | n-st: I can reproduce that on my jessie netinstaller. Which version are you using? |
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| 15:55.45 | petn-randall | *can't |
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| 16:00.12 | n-st | petn-randall: sorry, turns out it worked on the second attempt (i.e. reinstalling it). i probably skipped a step the first time or something ⦠|
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| 16:00.54 | petn-randall | n-st: Ok, good to know. Have fun with your Debian installation. :) |
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| 16:04.01 | the_other_cat | Hi, i'm curious how long it takes for a package to be transferred from testing to stable. I've read that this depends on the complexity of the package, however the relative small package xmobar-0.23.1-2 hasn't been migrated yet to stable although it is testing since May. The tracker gives no hints here why this take so long - does it depend on when the maintainer gets active? |
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| 16:06.30 | centrx | the_other_cat, Stable is a stable release, so unless the package is a security update or a serious bug, the new version of the package will not be in stable until the next major release of Debian |
| 16:06.46 | centrx | *unless the new version is |
| 16:07.02 | DammitJim | how does one only allow certain users to be able to ssh into a server? |
| 16:07.39 | centrx | DammitJim, https://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+only+certain+users -> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-limit-what-users-can-log-onto-system-via-ssh/ |
| 16:07.50 | DammitJim | AllowUsers but how about a domain user (a server that has been joined to a domain?) |
| 16:08.37 | the_other_cat | centrx: Oh, well this answers it, sorry for the noob question ;) |
| 16:08.38 | centrx | DammitJim, That's probably easier done using IP addresses |
| 16:09.02 | DammitJim | no, it's actually a mess if people are VPNing into the network |
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| 16:09.13 | centrx | DammitJim, As far as joining to the domain, that would probably be set up by combining ssh with pam or kerberos or samba or something, to verify whether a server is joined to the domain |
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| 16:09.40 | DammitJim | centrx, I already have the servers joined to the domain |
| 16:09.52 | DammitJim | the problem is that right now everyone in the domain can log on to the box |
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| 16:13.31 | lesta | DenyUsers ? |
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| 16:47.10 | toothe | I am using Kali, which is based on Debian, and trying to install the vmware tools. I can't seem to get them working. |
| 16:47.15 | toothe | i think they aren't starting when I boot up |
| 16:47.22 | toothe | is there a way to have them automatically restart? |
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| 16:50.33 | centrx | !kali |
| 16:50.33 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 17:05.03 | rgr | toothe: welcome to linux fragmentation and inflexible rules.... ;) |
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| 17:07.00 | centrx | Well, VMWare isn't in Debian either |
| 17:07.06 | toothe | i can't get this working.... |
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| 17:07.09 | centrx | Doesn't seem like anyone has an answer |
| 17:07.15 | toothe | i'ev doent his before |
| 17:07.17 | toothe | i just do'nt know how. |
| 17:08.55 | toothe | works cleanly with fusion.... |
| 17:10.17 | squinty | !vmware |
| 17:10.17 | dpkg | VMware isn't part of Debian, therefore it's not supported, ask me about <vmware support>. VMware is not in Debian because it is not Free software; even though you might be able to download it for no cost, the source code is not available for some parts and Debian is not allowed to distribute it, see <dfsg>. http://wiki.debian.org/VMware #vmware on irc.freenode.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 17:13.08 | aPerfectFemale | how do I check the type of wifi card I have? wanna make sure it is using open source firmware/drivers. t500 and x200 thinkpads |
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| 17:14.13 | derstrom | lspci | grep Network |
| 17:14.34 | aPerfectFemale | perfect. |
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| 17:15.22 | derstrom | You can also check what proprietary firmware you're running using dmesg | grep "firmware" |
| 17:15.35 | sivik | apparently i'm being retarded today. How do I add a key to apt? |
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| 17:16.22 | squinty | aPerfectFemale, might want to consider installing inxi see https://code.google.com/p/inxi/ bit more informative than older linux methods imho |
| 17:16.30 | sivik | the key I has is http://debian.orson.at/otp.debian@orson.at.pub |
| 17:17.13 | TheCreeper | curl http://debian.orson.at/otp.debian@orson.at.pub || apt-key add - |
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| 17:18.32 | TheCreeper | or curl http://debian.orson.at/otp.debian@orson.at.pub > /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d |
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| 17:19.11 | sivik | TheCreeper: thx |
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| 17:21.24 | squinty | Graphics: Card Intel Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) |
| 17:21.25 | squinty | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.25 | squinty | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.25 | squinty | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:21.41 | sivik | well, crap that didn't work |
| 17:23.10 | TheCreeper | ? |
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| 17:24.27 | TheCreeper | squinty: wb |
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| 17:25.53 | squinty | ta :) inadvertanly did a flood and got kicked ;-) |
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| 17:29.18 | sivik | TheCreeper: that didn't work: gpg: error writing keyring `/etc/apt/trusted.gpg': invalid packet |
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| 17:32.17 | b3nt0 | How do you modify dependencies packages not to be auto removed? IE: "apt-get remove ice-weasel" ; dependency happens to be gnome in my case, which I don't want to remove. Thanks in advance |
| 17:32.41 | wallbroken | i installed debian using netinstall without system base utilities, what does it mean? |
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| 17:35.18 | derstrom | b3nt0 : aptitude unmarkauto <package name> |
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| 17:35.59 | derstrom | b3nt0 : you can also apt-get install <package name> and if it was "automatically installed" as a dependency, it'll then be marked as "manually installed" so it won't be uninstalled when you execute apt-get autoremove |
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| 17:36.25 | b3nt0 | derstrom: tried the second method, with no real luck. |
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| 17:36.56 | b3nt0 | I will give the first method a try. |
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| 17:37.13 | derstrom | first method should work, that unmarks the package as automatically installed |
| 17:37.17 | b3nt0 | the weasel is very vengeful |
| 17:38.01 | adabo | I'm trying to swap capslock > escape key. But this is doesn't seem to work for jessie http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=82079 |
| 17:38.17 | adabo | I installed console-common |
| 17:38.25 | adabo | and console-data |
| 17:38.36 | adabo | Is there a different way to do it in debian 8? |
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| 17:39.43 | zykotick9 | adabo: XKBOPTIONS="caps:swapescape" in /etc/default/keyboard works for me in 8.1 |
| 17:39.53 | _mjones | Can someone tell me what kernel version is in stretch? I'm running a NUC5i3 with jesse (3.16.0) and really need intel graphics acceleration for 3840x2160, for which I am told a newer kernel contains drivers (uncertain if 3.18 or 3.19). |
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| 17:40.07 | Okitain | heya, it looks like I had certs on the repositories disabled. How to I enable them again? |
| 17:40.14 | adabo | zykotick9, Oh, ok. I'll check that out. Thanks! |
| 17:40.25 | centrx | ,kernels |
| 17:40.26 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u2); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u2); experimental: 4.1.0-trunk-686-pae (4.1.2-1~exp1) |
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| 17:41.40 | _mjones | centrx: thanks much. I hadn't intented to run sid, though, as this machine is intended to be stable. thoughts? |
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| 17:42.43 | centrx | _mjones, According to this page, stretch has both 3.16 and 4.0 available - https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=linux-image-4 |
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| 17:43.07 | centrx | _mjones, and actually, I'm running it right now in stretch |
| 17:43.10 | centrx | So sorry for the confusion |
| 17:43.19 | centrx | 4.0.8-2 |
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| 17:44.27 | _mjones | centrx: that sounds like exactly the ticket, and also nets the current version of mpv, my media weapon of choice. |
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| 17:45.09 | adabo | zykotick9, So line 8 I just put what you pasted? http://i.imgur.com/k5k7G4Q.png |
| 17:45.18 | centrx | _mjones, yeah it works well |
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| 17:45.44 | centrx | _mjones, sometimes people seem to have problems on testing with complicated desktop environments like Gnome, so it's not always smooth sailing, but it has been for me |
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| 17:57.46 | zykotick9 | adabo: yup. my file http://paste.debian.net/289475/ |
| 17:57.46 | _mjones | is now upgrading to stretch. |
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| 17:58.12 | _mjones | hmm, exim4. I thought Debian switched to postfix as the base MTA in 6.0? |
| 17:58.29 | adabo | zykotick9, Ok cool. I just edited it using sudo vim. I think I have to reboot. |
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| 17:58.48 | adabo | Wouldn't let me write to the file because it was readonly |
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| 18:00.38 | adabo | zykotick9, How did you copy the terminal like that? Using desktop? |
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| 18:02.49 | zykotick9 | adabo: typically i highlight the desired text, then middle mouse click to paste |
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| 18:03.38 | zykotick9 | adabo: highlight then shift+INS also works |
| 18:03.52 | adabo | zykotick9, Gotcha. I generally use the tty1 terminal instead of the desktop bash whatever. So I don't have the mouse :/ |
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| 18:04.29 | zykotick9 | adabo: fyi, if you want "some" mouse support in VT, you can install the gpm package |
| 18:04.33 | adabo | I guess it's the font in the windowed terminal that bothers me -_- |
| 18:04.47 | adabo | zykotick9, Oh, cool. Nice to know :) |
| 18:05.21 | zykotick9 | adabo: i use terminus in both VTs and my urxvt terminals... |
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| 18:06.00 | adabo | zykotick9, Ah. I'm unfamiliar with that. |
| 18:06.20 | adabo | I'm not sure what mine uses. When I installed debian, chose xfce |
| 18:06.20 | zykotick9 | adabo: terminus is just a font |
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| 18:06.37 | adabo | zykotick9, Oh ok. |
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| 18:15.22 | b3nt0 | Little late on this subject, but is there a list of kernel versions and change logs? |
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| 18:16.57 | centrx | b3nt0, For major changes, I use http://kernelnewbies.org/Linux_3.16 |
| 18:17.05 | centrx | b3nt0, Instead of reading through the detailed kernel changelog |
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| 18:17.21 | centrx | b3nt0, Released version of Debian generally only has one kernel version |
| 18:18.04 | b3nt0 | centrx: thanks actually looking at that page now... was just wondering if there was other paths to the same info |
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| 18:20.16 | b3nt0 | Is there an irc to dicuss linux kernel topics? sorry for being super off topic. Thanks in advance. |
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| 18:20.46 | b3nt0 | never mind found something sorry for ^ |
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| 18:22.08 | centrx | b3nt0, There's ##linux of course. Did you find a kernel-specific channel? |
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| 18:22.41 | b3nt0 | actually was gonna jump in the site you listed, apparently they have a channel in a different server |
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| 18:26.36 | abrotman | wallbroken: they have man pages |
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| 18:26.53 | ledoktre | quick question for someone here RE: bind9. I have had this issue every time I setup a server i.e. samba/bind/dhcp/ntp that when the server loses internet, it seems like when it comes back on, bind9 no longer forwards requests. Was wondering if there was a fix or workaround for that |
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| 18:27.04 | ledoktre | Been searching but its kind of a weird problem - havent had any luck |
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| 18:28.59 | odigem | hi |
| 18:29.13 | odigem | i have problem with uwsgi someone can help? |
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| 18:31.05 | b3nt0 | ledoktre: not familiar with bind9 but you could setup a watchdog, for when the internet is loss... like a bash script using ping 8.8.8.8 and if it fails wait until it reconnects and restart the service... But I don't know the software your using, but there may be a built in way. |
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| 18:33.28 | ledoktre | b3nt0: yeah something like that might work. its a bandaid fix - it would be nice to know why it simply will not start forwarding again when the itnernet comes back online. I mostly have this issue with later debian servers that Iâve worked on and customers who are on DSL. |
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| 18:35.19 | b3nt0 | ledoktre: ya... sorry man, maybe some conflicting service when the port goes down and up. |
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| 18:37.27 | b3nt0 | ledoktre: if it only happens on dsl,might also be like a run condition, and might be the att routers fault. I don't think they have updated their firmware in ages. |
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| 18:38.49 | ledoktre | b3nt0: it happens on different providors though. It seems like its just after the internet has been out long enough someone makes a request and it canât forward, so it stops |
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| 18:40.07 | ledoktre | b3nt0: holy crap i may have just found something : http://superuser.com/questions/785758/dns-server-bind-stops-forwarding-restart-helps-why |
| 18:40.11 | b3nt0 | ledoktre: sounds like an ugly problem... |
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| 18:40.20 | ledoktre | see above :) |
| 18:40.25 | ledoktre | trying it out |
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| 18:40.55 | b3nt0 | haha... tcp/ip protocol was murdering your connection... |
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| 18:41.36 | b3nt0 | Guess it got stuck in a loop, just out of curiosity did system processing spike also? |
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| 18:42.31 | ledoktre | no I didnt notice any change in the system resources - only symptom was the internet stopped working (thats what I get told - troubleshoot points to dns isssue - restart bind9 fixes) |
| 18:42.42 | s7r | how long can a reported bug (port upgrade requirement) take ? |
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| 18:43.32 | b3nt0 | ledoktre: well... at least you have a fix :D. Much better than my band-aid idea.. |
| 18:44.11 | ledoktre | b3nt0: not at all. Yours is thinking outside the box :) I liked it. It would have been a fix for sure. I just have this insationable curiousity to figure out WHY - gets me into trouble let me tell ya |
| 18:44.42 | ledoktre | Appreciate the ideas - who would have guessed that Iâd been searching before never found an answer and then hop on here and luck out |
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| 18:45.12 | b3nt0 | I think you went the safer route for sure, but I might just throw the band-aid to avoid saturday 2 am phone call. |
| 18:45.36 | ledoktre | ;-) heheh not a bad idea atall! |
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| 18:46.28 | ledoktre | Anyway - thanks ! :) Gonna grab some lunch |
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| 18:52.49 | aruna | hi, built custom kernel 4.1.2 I have no sound, any guidance is most welcome as how best to resolve please.. |
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| 18:53.50 | abrotman | Same failure with the Debian-provided kernel? |
| 18:54.00 | aruna | yep :( |
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| 18:54.12 | aruna | tried everything then decided to ask |
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| 18:55.01 | aruna | oh no sorry I misunderstood the previous kernel rocks - no worries there |
| 18:55.13 | b3nt0 | is the sound muted? |
| 18:55.18 | bald_bohemian | Hey everybody |
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| 18:55.30 | aruna | nope its on |
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| 18:57.01 | aruna | finally i copied across the .config from the kernel dat works fine still zilch.. |
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| 18:57.04 | b3nt0 | what does alsamixer show? |
| 18:57.14 | b3nt0 | oh okay cheer |
| 18:57.16 | b3nt0 | s* |
| 18:57.34 | centrx | Yeah probably just didn't compile sound into the kernel |
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| 18:57.57 | aruna | alsamixer loads fine |
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| 18:58.26 | aruna | tells me I got HDA intel HDMI and PCH |
| 18:58.46 | aruna | oh-kay so how does one compile back the soudn in then please ? |
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| 19:00.26 | aruna | aaargh.. its too quiet my box has no sound waah someone HELP |
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| 19:02.03 | bald_bohemian | I have a quick question ... I am using Debian 8 and have been slowly expanding my knowledge. I have been working on learning system management and have been trying to figure out modprobe ... I found some online documentation that indicated a -l flag that would list the available modules on the system. I don't seem to see this in the man pages on my system and it doesn't work for me. Am I missing something? |
| 19:03.13 | b3nt0 | aruna: hard to tell what the issue is. If alsa-mixer detects the devices it should work. |
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| 19:04.17 | aruna | b3nt0: I know my friend this is why am puzzled :( |
| 19:04.53 | b3nt0 | aruna: honestly I would plug something to the hdmi and see if that plays sound... |
| 19:05.02 | b3nt0 | try to shrink the amount of problems |
| 19:05.04 | aruna | b3nt0: sound preferences says I have a 'dummy' device and thats all |
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| 19:05.53 | aruna | b3nt0: oh-kay will try thanks |
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| 19:06.36 | b3nt0 | aruna: I dont know but could try.. apt-get purge alsa && apt-get autoremove && apt-get install alsa |
| 19:07.11 | aruna | b3nt0: uninstall then re-install all over ? oh-kay.. |
| 19:07.15 | b3nt0 | or something may have gone wrong with the permissions... |
| 19:07.26 | aruna | 1 sek pls |
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| 19:12.44 | b3nt0 | aruna: work? |
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| 19:12.59 | aruna | b3nt0: uh uh no joy |
| 19:13.05 | b3nt0 | is it a realtek card? |
| 19:13.11 | aruna | yes |
| 19:13.11 | b3nt0 | https://wiki.debian.org/ALSA |
| 19:13.17 | b3nt0 | you need the firmware |
| 19:13.21 | aruna | huh ? |
| 19:13.23 | b3nt0 | its in the middle of the page |
| 19:13.24 | aruna | oh.. |
| 19:13.30 | aruna | aah.. |
| 19:13.47 | aruna | lol no wonder |
| 19:13.50 | b3nt0 | ya... |
| 19:13.58 | aruna | many thanks :)) |
| 19:14.02 | aruna | one lives n learns |
| 19:14.03 | b3nt0 | hope it works |
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| 19:14.11 | aruna | hang on a minute then |
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| 19:18.59 | cxd13 | is there a kde update notifier in debian repos? |
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| 19:23.59 | abrotman | update for what? |
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| 19:25.25 | TaZeR | im installing debian 8.1 today =) exciting times |
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| 19:26.21 | ws2k3 | TaZeR debian 8 is not realy recommanded 7.8 is better in my opinion |
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| 19:26.34 | b3nt0 | anyone know a good RSS feeder with no or little bloat? |
| 19:26.35 | TaZeR | thanks but i wanna go with the newest |
| 19:27.05 | ws2k3 | TaZeR i want to but 8 was working so badly that i switched back to 7.8 |
| 19:27.08 | b3nt0 | TaZeR: why not go with the upstream setup |
| 19:27.41 | TaZeR | i go with the one it says to install on the main debian page |
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| 19:28.19 | kolombo | ws2k3, what issues did you see in 8? I am happy with 8. |
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| 19:29.27 | kolombo | TaZeR, good luck |
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| 19:31.43 | aPerfectFemale | issue === using xfce and jessie === my battery precentage at full charge is "50%%" |
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| 19:33.54 | cxd13 | abrotman: software updates so i don't have to apt-get upgrade unless i know there's an update to install |
| 19:34.58 | wallbroken | which is the best terminal to install on openbox? |
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| 19:35.21 | Tsutsukakushi | probably rxvt-unicode |
| 19:35.28 | TheCreeper | terminator perhaps |
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| 19:36.20 | cxd13 | terminator is nice |
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| 19:37.02 | cxd13 | so is guake |
| 19:39.06 | b3nt0 | anyone know a good path to take setting up transparent windows? |
| 19:39.06 | wallbroken | what does "system base utilities" contains? |
| 19:39.06 | kolombo | aPerfectFemale, that is an issue... I don't have it with Gnome |
| 19:39.10 | aruna | b3nt0: hey, they have firmware for 2.6 and 3 kernels I tried both compilation errors |
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| 19:39.25 | b3nt0 | aruna: :( |
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| 19:39.41 | b3nt0 | whats the compile error? |
| 19:39.41 | aruna | b3nt0: No Noo... I am happy this happened |
| 19:39.42 | phogg | aPerfectFemale: is that what acpitool reports? |
| 19:39.54 | aruna | coz now i know where to find the firmware |
| 19:39.59 | aruna | hold on\ |
| 19:40.19 | b3nt0 | aruna: I am glad at least we know what the issue is... |
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| 19:42.24 | aPerfectFemale | phogg, no acpi support in kernel, or incorrect acpi_path ("/sys/class") --- umm... this could be a kernel issue. I just compiled 4.1.3 with grsecurity. |
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| 19:43.00 | phogg | aPerfectFemale: definitely something weird, yeah |
| 19:43.10 | aruna | b3nt0: here u go: http://pastebin.com/9dM5i5zU |
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| 19:44.44 | aruna | b3nt0: seems it complains in pcm_native.c |
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| 19:46.25 | aruna | b3nt0: Here is the complete error list: http://pastebin.com/1s6KgZDU |
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| 19:46.48 | b3nt0 | mmmh |
| 19:47.11 | aruna | b3nt0: Thank you very much though you did help :) |
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| 19:47.38 | b3nt0 | are you compiling as root? |
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| 19:48.03 | b3nt0 | never mind |
| 19:48.11 | aruna | guess will just have to upgrade to jessie and then pull in the latest stable kernel from kernel.org |
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| 19:48.17 | b3nt0 | lol.. |
| 19:48.23 | aruna | :))) |
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| 19:48.45 | aruna | yep I was root |
| 19:49.05 | haole | I was messing with my "alternatives" and I accidentally removed /lib/cpp - how do I recover from that? |
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| 19:49.31 | b3nt0 | aruna: bad practice to compile as root but ya.. |
| 19:49.43 | b3nt0 | can you find the pcm_native.c |
| 19:49.49 | b3nt0 | file thats complaining about? |
| 19:50.06 | aruna | b3nt0: It bitched when i tried so I became root and still it complains :( |
| 19:50.07 | b3nt0 | also... a lot of info down your ally in the archlinux area |
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| 19:51.17 | aruna | hmm.. arch ? I am not that experienced yet to start messing with arch but soon hopefully |
| 19:51.51 | b3nt0 | no I mean you upgrade the kernel right? |
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| 19:52.05 | b3nt0 | so your already heavily modified |
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| 19:52.33 | b3nt0 | archlinux is basically everyones pc is a distro so you might find the issue your running into there |
| 19:52.36 | b3nt0 | or similar |
| 19:52.38 | aruna | well yes I guess... |
| 19:52.50 | aruna | it is heavily modified |
| 19:53.03 | b3nt0 | but if its not modified its not fun right? |
| 19:53.13 | aruna | only way to learn |
| 19:53.15 | aruna | :) |
| 19:53.17 | b3nt0 | gotta break it |
| 19:53.21 | aruna | u bet |
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| 19:53.57 | littlebit | hi people I'm trying to pair my bluetooth gaming controller but I keep on getting Creating device failed: org.bluez.Error.AuthenticationRejected: Authentication Rejected |
| 19:54.00 | littlebit | any idea why? |
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| 19:54.14 | aruna | thud-thud-thud ... dats me banging my head on the kbd... not a bad impression of bass drums :) |
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| 19:54.36 | b3nt0 | littlebit: probably need to allow unknown devices to pair |
| 19:54.50 | b3nt0 | or go the long way and set the privs manually |
| 19:54.58 | littlebit | b3nt0: where do I check that? |
| 19:55.05 | littlebit | or change |
| 19:55.06 | aruna | b3nt0: Thanks I will check out the arch forums |
| 19:55.11 | b3nt0 | which enviroment are you at |
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| 19:55.21 | littlebit | enviroment? |
| 19:55.28 | b3nt0 | aruna: let me know, cuz I was going to do what you were doing. You beat me by about 30 minutes |
| 19:55.41 | b3nt0 | and i aborted the mission |
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| 19:55.58 | b3nt0 | littlebit: gnome?kde?xfce? |
| 19:56.04 | b3nt0 | what desktop env |
| 19:56.22 | littlebit | b3nt0: there is no gui |
| 19:56.24 | aruna | b3nt0: Seriously ? Oh my.. definitely will get back to you if I find a fix |
| 19:56.26 | littlebit | just the terminal |
| 19:56.38 | littlebit | I'm working with hcitool and bluez |
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| 19:57.07 | b3nt0 | https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser |
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| 19:57.19 | b3nt0 | middle of the page bluetooth-agent |
| 19:57.45 | b3nt0 | the read up is like bellow that line for hci |
| 19:58.24 | b3nt0 | aruna: I got scared when your sound did not work, I just fixed mine |
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| 19:59.11 | b3nt0 | aruna: but on my side it was hdmi was outputting and set as the default so i just modified the order. But was running Jessie |
| 19:59.17 | aruna | b3nt0: Am actually very happy with what I have vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 I just wanted to see what the big fuss was about with kernel 4.* |
| 19:59.35 | b3nt0 | I was reading it up |
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| 19:59.53 | b3nt0 | it seems it fixes some bluetooth stack and mem management. and kernel update without reboot |
| 19:59.58 | aruna | strange that, why wud they set deafult to HDMI ? |
| 20:00.11 | b3nt0 | my laptop is strange |
| 20:00.17 | aruna | LOL |
| 20:00.19 | aruna | hahahaa |
| 20:00.20 | b3nt0 | its got duo video cards |
| 20:00.27 | b3nt0 | running off the same display |
| 20:00.27 | aruna | what the hell ? |
| 20:00.30 | b3nt0 | linux does not like it |
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| 20:00.56 | aruna | oh dear... finally found another slightly insane person just like me :) |
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| 20:01.13 | aruna | we will make linux like it ! |
| 20:01.50 | b3nt0 | aruna: http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-blade-2014 |
| 20:01.53 | aruna | b3nt0: Question: why run two video cards off the same display ? |
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| 20:02.06 | b3nt0 | its gaming / battery saver thingy |
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| 20:02.21 | b3nt0 | get like 12 hours without using the nvidia portion |
| 20:02.25 | b3nt0 | unplugged |
| 20:02.42 | aruna | OMG Wolfenstein lives again |
| 20:02.46 | b3nt0 | haha |
| 20:03.00 | aruna | I got to the final level on that like 20 something years ago |
| 20:03.05 | aruna | Sweet |
| 20:04.13 | b3nt0 | ya.. its nice to duo boot, until dx dies... |
| 20:04.23 | aruna | thats a nice lap top |
| 20:04.29 | b3nt0 | mine is version bellow that one |
| 20:04.36 | b3nt0 | for some reason their website does not list it |
| 20:04.44 | b3nt0 | i have a odd resolution 1600x1200 |
| 20:04.44 | aruna | still a thin lappi-toppi |
| 20:04.47 | b3nt0 | ya |
| 20:04.52 | b3nt0 | gets hot though its aluminum |
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| 20:04.57 | aruna | oh.. |
| 20:05.01 | b3nt0 | and the keys fade |
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| 20:05.21 | aruna | stick a industrial fan in front of it ? I did dat once |
| 20:05.29 | b3nt0 | and theres a perma skin graph of my hand on the right of the laptop from heat transfer |
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| 20:05.44 | aruna | ouch.. dat sounds painful |
| 20:06.06 | aruna | heat sink ? |
| 20:06.08 | b3nt0 | well... i wasnt going to stop... gaming... if the laptop wasn't going to bsd... lol... |
| 20:06.13 | aruna | custom made at home ? :)) |
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| 20:06.47 | b3nt0 | nah.. just where the graphics card is at happens to be where you would rest your hand on at |
| 20:06.51 | b3nt0 | for wasd |
| 20:07.02 | b3nt0 | and they used the aluminum as a heat sink |
| 20:07.08 | b3nt0 | so the whole laptop is like a giant heatsink |
| 20:07.25 | aruna | where there is a will there is a way, where there is community we shall find a way |
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| 20:07.50 | aruna | I suppose it's coz it's soo.. ultra-thin |
| 20:07.53 | b3nt0 | I eneded up using 2 40mm fans to prop up the laptop and blow the heat away |
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| 20:08.11 | b3nt0 | :\ |
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| 20:08.36 | aruna | you should let them know... |
| 20:08.46 | b3nt0 | true.. |
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| 20:09.13 | b3nt0 | I will send them a msg i guess your right |
| 20:09.37 | b3nt0 | its a good laptop though for some reason the frys had it marked down |
| 20:09.52 | b3nt0 | so i snagged it... and have not regret it |
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| 20:10.47 | aruna | well if I had skin being grafted on by the laptop I will diplomatically request the manufacturer not to burn off my palm any more please .. |
| 20:11.15 | b3nt0 | lol.. aruna it was after 8+ hours... but ya know |
| 20:11.20 | aruna | and ask can they give me the latest device at zero $.$$ |
| 20:11.27 | aruna | I know... I know... |
| 20:11.34 | b3nt0 | ya... worth a try |
| 20:11.35 | aruna | been dere - done dat :) |
| 20:11.36 | b3nt0 | never hurt to ask |
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| 20:11.59 | b3nt0 | mind if i msg you were kind off topic |
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| 20:12.14 | aruna | absolutely feel free |
| 20:12.22 | abrotman | points at #debian-offtopic |
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| 20:13.11 | aruna | apologies to the list .. I get carried away when I see Wolfenstien lives again |
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| 20:16.39 | schone_ | hello |
| 20:16.56 | schone_ | im using a docker container with debian wheezy and it doesnât have âsysctlâ in it⦠what apt package contains that? |
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| 20:19.13 | jhutchins | schone_: Why are you looking for sysctl? |
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| 20:19.37 | schone_ | jhutchins: cuz i want to set some systel variable and not have to do `echo â1â > /proc/my/variable` ...? |
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| 20:19.43 | schone_ | systel=system |
| 20:20.04 | ongolaBoy | schone_: _procps_ is your package if I'm right :) |
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| 20:26.49 | schone_ | jhutchins: yes it is :\ its the redis:latest iamge |
| 20:26.50 | schone_ | image* |
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| 20:28.03 | jhutchins | wallbroken: Define terminator. |
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| 20:28.31 | jhutchins | schone_: So is procps really not installed or is your user just not able to see things in /sbin? |
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| 20:29.53 | schone_ | jhutchins: really not isntalled |
| 20:29.56 | schone_ | i am runnig as âroot' |
| 20:30.28 | wallbroken | jhutchins, it's a terminal emulator |
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| 20:32.28 | jim87 | hello! I've got a Realtek 8188eu chipset as USB WiFi dongle (TP-LINK TL-WN725N) and I want it to run as access point. I'm running jessie (kernel 3.18.11 ARMHF) and the drivers are built in (I've tried installing them, too, but with the very same result). I've compiled the special hostapd from Jens Segers's git repository and I'm running it (https://github.com/jenssegers/RTL8188-hostapd/). The problem is that as soon as my phone connects to t |
| 20:32.28 | jim87 | he network, the kernel panics. Any hint on what I can do? hostapd is using the rtl871xdrv driver (I think that's the problem). hostapd.conf: http://paste.linux.chat/view/a5687a4a - if it is of any help, this is the log of hostapd (till kernel panic): http://paste.linux.chat/view/ae111d0b ... any help is appreciated |
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| 20:36.45 | schone_ | jhutchins: question, after i installed procps what needs to run in order for /etc/sysctl.conf to be read and applied when the container starts...? |
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| 20:40.47 | schone_ | i see⦠its procps in init.d that needs to run |
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| 20:41.14 | mancomunado | How to restore a file just deleted from linux? not at the bin |
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| 20:41.55 | mtn | mancomunado, is it in the trash folder? |
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| 20:42.15 | mancomunado | mtn, no |
| 20:42.45 | mtn | mancomunado, then it appears it is gone. there are some apps and live disks to help you recover deleted files |
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| 20:43.11 | mancomunado | it just go delete could you guide me fast? |
| 20:43.40 | mtn | mancomunado, google: linux reover deleted files |
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| 20:43.48 | mtn | reover/recover |
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| 20:56.49 | CooloutAC | hello all when i compile a kernel should i do it as root? |
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| 20:56.59 | CooloutAC | i was told not to but otherwise i get permission errors |
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| 20:58.25 | dvs | CooloutAC: You don't have to compile it as root, but you have to be root to install it. |
| 20:58.42 | CooloutAC | ok well it gave me permission issues so I did it as root |
| 20:58.50 | CooloutAC | let me try again and see |
| 20:58.54 | CooloutAC | I think i know why |
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| 21:00.48 | CooloutAC | ya i get all sorts of permissions errors |
| 21:00.51 | CooloutAC | for example cannot unlink file for debian/ruleset/common/targets.mk: Permission denied at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 970. |
| 21:00.51 | CooloutAC | cannot restore permissions to 0100644 for debian/ruleset/common/targets.mk: Permission denied at /usr/bin/make-kpkg line 970. |
| 21:01.02 | jim87 | hello! I've got a Realtek 8188eu chipset as USB WiFi dongle (TP-LINK TL-WN725N) and I want it to run as access point. I'm running jessie (kernel 3.18.11 ARMHF) and the drivers are built in (I've tried installing them, too, but with the very same result). I've compiled the special hostapd from Jens Segers's git repository and I'm running it (https://github.com/jenssegers/RTL8188-hostapd/). The problem is that as soon as my phone connects to t |
| 21:01.02 | jim87 | he network, the kernel panics. Any hint on what I can do? hostapd is using the rtl871xdrv driver (I think that's the problem). hostapd.conf: http://paste.linux.chat/view/a5687a4a - if it is of any help, this is the log of hostapd (till kernel panic): http://paste.linux.chat/view/ae111d0b ... any help is appreciated |
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| 21:01.41 | CooloutAC | /bin/sh: 1: cannot create include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h.tmp: Permission denied |
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| 21:01.48 | CooloutAC | /bin/sh: 1: cannot create include/generated/uapi/linux/version.h.tmp: Permission denied |
| 21:01.54 | CooloutAC | so i'll just do it as root yest? |
| 21:01.58 | CooloutAC | or is that a big deal? |
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| 21:06.03 | jim87 | CooloutAC: either your Makefile is poor or you need to sudo / root make it |
| 21:06.24 | jim87 | poor in the meaning that it should separate the compilation from the installation |
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| 21:08.16 | CooloutAC | i figured it out tks, its cause i tar'd it as root |
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| 21:10.00 | jim87 | CooloutAC: that was dumb xD |
| 21:10.26 | CooloutAC | whats dumb is me asking people in #kernel if that could the be issue |
| 21:10.37 | CooloutAC | and all they could say was "don't build as root" repeatedly lol |
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| 21:11.02 | jim87 | indeed, never trust makes as root |
| 21:11.15 | jim87 | and never download as root :P |
| 21:11.25 | CooloutAC | the question was, "are my permission issues cause i tar'd as root?" |
| 21:11.31 | dvs | yes |
| 21:11.33 | CooloutAC | a simple yes would of sufficed |
| 21:11.34 | CooloutAC | dvs: ty |
| 21:12.03 | dvs | I could make a more compilcated answer... |
| 21:12.19 | CooloutAC | dvs: any answer would of been great lol instead of "don't build as root!" |
| 21:12.27 | CooloutAC | like a parrot those people |
| 21:12.39 | jim87 | croak! |
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| 21:12.49 | jim87 | but I'll repeat myself one more time: |
| 21:12.52 | jim87 | hello! I've got a Realtek 8188eu chipset as USB WiFi dongle (TP-LINK TL-WN725N) and I want it to run as access point. I'm running jessie (kernel 3.18.11 ARMHF) and the drivers are built in (I've tried installing them, too, but with the very same result). I've compiled the special hostapd from Jens Segers's git repository and I'm running it (https://github.com/jenssegers/RTL8188-hostapd/). The problem is that as soon as my phone connects to t |
| 21:12.52 | jim87 | he network, the kernel panics. Any hint on what I can do? hostapd is using the rtl871xdrv driver (I think that's the problem). hostapd.conf: http://paste.linux.chat/view/a5687a4a - if it is of any help, this is the log of hostapd (till kernel panic): http://paste.linux.chat/view/ae111d0b ... any help is appreciated |
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| 21:13.29 | CooloutAC | dvs: i had other issues too which i figured out, forgot i had chmod 000 a bunch of the compilers, and i was installing wrong gcc-plugin-dev version lol |
| 21:13.36 | CooloutAC | all is well now |
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| 21:14.14 | n-st | is there any current best practice what type and size to use for ssh private keys? |
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| 21:15.32 | CooloutAC | and we're off |
| 21:15.40 | CooloutAC | blows cool air on his cpu |
| 21:15.59 | aedinius | I have a fan pushing cold air into my office, otherwise it gets too hot |
| 21:16.16 | jim87 | n-st: I think that SSH-2 RSA 1024 bits is just secure enought |
| 21:16.21 | aedinius | Hot air collects around the back of my office where my big rig is, and it has a tendency to overheat :( |
| 21:16.22 | head8debian | jim87: Be patient and wait. People won't help if they find your posts annoying or don't know the answer to your question. |
| 21:16.50 | head8debian | And not everyone is in your time zone. |
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| 21:20.24 | mordocai | I'm not really sure where to ask this, hopefully you guys can help. I just started using gpg to sign my git commits (yes, due to the recent github repo that went viralish) and noticed gpg-agent doesn't appear to be used. It seems that using gpg rather than gpg2 could be the issue. Anyone know of a way to get git to play nicely with gpg-agent? I am on debian testing, using latest packages for git and gpg. That means git 2.4.6 and gpg |
| 21:20.24 | mordocai | 1.4.19/2.0.28 |
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| 21:21.18 | mordocai | Note that I have ensured gpg-agent is running. |
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| 21:23.47 | jim87 | mordocai: tried this one? http://superuser.com/questions/869056/gpg-agent-is-not-requested-in-git-calls |
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| 21:25.27 | mordocai | jim87: Didn't come up in my duckduckgo searches, trying it. |
| 21:25.46 | jim87 | I love google for one reason B-) |
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| 21:26.07 | mordocai | Yeah, I tend to try google second but didn't this time for whatever reason |
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| 21:30.09 | mordocai | jim87: Yep, looks like that does the trick. Thanks for your google fu :P |
| 21:30.19 | jim87 | np :) |
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| 21:41.05 | Circuitsoft | Hello - How would I configure ifupdown to automatically raise an interface without setting an IP address? It's just going to be in a bridge, so that a VM can take control of it. |
| 21:41.14 | Circuitsoft | (or would macvtap be faster?) |
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| 21:44.06 | jim87 | Circuitsoft: are you asking for setting up a device with dchp client? |
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| 21:44.22 | Circuitsoft | No, no dhcp. I want the interface UP, but no IP address at all. |
| 21:44.42 | wuurq | Hi! I got stuck with "libkrb5support0 : Breaks: libk5crypto3 (< 1.12.1+dfsg-8) but 1.10.1+dfsg-5+deb7u3 is installed" ... any idea how to move forward please? |
| 21:44.58 | wuurq | apt-get -f install just screams that "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages" |
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| 21:45.41 | jim87 | wuurq: your system is... screaming rofl |
| 21:45.46 | jim87 | sorry for the bad joke xD |
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| 21:46.08 | wuurq | jim87: haha well, I feel like doing the same ... -_- |
| 21:46.26 | jim87 | btw why would you ever force an installation? |
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| 21:47.26 | wuurq | well if I try aptitute to suggest fixes it just offers to purge 800 packages from my system -__ |
| 21:47.42 | ilken | hey guys what happened to unetbootin? i cant make my gentoo live DVD on Debian anymore? |
| 21:47.56 | wuurq | ilken: tried dd? |
| 21:48.15 | jim87 | wuurq: I like to use pv with dd |
| 21:48.21 | jim87 | at least you've got a percentage! |
| 21:48.30 | wuurq | hehe |
| 21:48.33 | wuurq | fair point |
| 21:48.38 | wuurq | but any idea about the screaming system? |
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| 21:49.00 | jim87 | wuurq: was googling around it |
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| 21:49.42 | wuurq | jim87: me too, found only an obscure bugreport that says that the two packages are masked ... but no solution seems in hand |
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| 21:49.51 | wuurq | without purging 80% of my system that is |
| 21:50.08 | mtn | wuurq, are you running sid? |
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| 21:50.34 | wuurq | mtn: a debian fork, kali |
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| 21:50.43 | mtn | wuurq, not supported in this channel |
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| 21:51.17 | wuurq | mtn: surely this is a debian issue? or at least I have found bugreports of people having this issue on debian also |
| 21:51.28 | mtn | !kali |
| 21:51.28 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 21:51.41 | jim87 | well, "not supported" is such a cold noun... I prefere to help and see if a generic debian knowledge may help him out, no? |
| 21:52.00 | jim87 | in the end it's an apt error, not a lib not behaving normally |
| 21:52.07 | mtn | jim87, not in this channel. can't be clearer |
| 21:52.19 | ilken | "not supported"=deprecated? |
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| 21:52.25 | mtn | jim87, go to off-topic or go to the correct channel and help him |
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| 21:52.37 | mtn | ilken, read what dpkg said |
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| 21:52.58 | ilken | oh |
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| 21:56.16 | wuurq | anyone who might be less strict and actually realize this is an apt issue with any insight/idea? |
| 21:57.07 | mtn | wuurq, keep it up and you are likely to get booted. the rules are there for a reason. we don't know anything about kali and don't want to support it. please abide by the rules |
| 21:57.37 | mtn | !based on debian |
| 21:57.38 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 21:57.51 | wuurq | mtn: why exactly would an apt issue i have be specific to kali? the fact that i am running it doesn't forbid me to discuss general apt behaviour or hints in some way, or does it? |
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| 21:58.18 | mtn | wuurq, hopefully you can read and understand what dpkg just told you. please follow the rules of the channel |
| 21:58.25 | dvs | wuurq: In the #debian channel, it does. |
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| 21:59.01 | wuurq | this is ridiculous |
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| 21:59.10 | dvs | !next |
| 21:59.10 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 22:02.07 | b3nt0 | this is kind of a silly question, but I don't seem to know a way around it at this time. I am trying to remove some of the software with gnome IE: apt-get purge polari. But it decides to remove gnome* with it. I am a bit at a lost, since I did not really want to remove the gnome core just the irc client and a few other applications. I tried adding apt-get install gnome after which request gnome polari to be installed. Also tried apt-get remo |
| 22:02.09 | b3nt0 | ve polari -d to not check for dependencies. Any help on this subject? |
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| 22:03.57 | valdyn | b3nt0: removing polari wont remove the gnome core |
| 22:04.15 | b3nt0 | maybe i should of used iceweasel as a example |
| 22:04.21 | valdyn | b3nt0: unless you really are using aptitude, but you are saying apt-get |
| 22:04.32 | valdyn | b3nt0: same thing |
| 22:04.49 | b3nt0 | my experience seems to be slightly different from what your saying valdyn |
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| 22:05.24 | valdyn | b3nt0: show us, on a paste site |
| 22:05.30 | b3nt0 | one sec |
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| 22:06.14 | b3nt0 | http://hastebin.com/vugosukahi.vbs |
| 22:06.57 | valdyn | b3nt0: gnome (the package) is not gnome, neither is gnome-core the gnome core |
| 22:07.36 | valdyn | b3nt0: the packages that are listed (gnome gnome-core and task-gnome-desktop) are meta packages, meaning they contain nothing but dependencies |
| 22:07.45 | b3nt0 | if I do say yes, and I attempt for example run autoremove it will remove gnome-core |
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| 22:08.48 | valdyn | b3nt0: those meta packages are just around for your convenience to make it easy to install a large number of packages. |
| 22:08.53 | valdyn | b3nt0: they can be removed safely |
| 22:08.59 | Circuitsoft | b3nt0: That's fine, because gnome and gnome-core don't actually contain any software that you use. |
| 22:09.14 | b3nt0 | I understand, but I just did not want in this example iceweasel still wanted to keep gnome-core |
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| 22:09.33 | valdyn | b3nt0: you cant |
| 22:09.33 | Circuitsoft | gnome-core relies on iceweasel. Removing gnome-core won't remove anything else. |
| 22:09.35 | b3nt0 | gnome-core murders your ipstack on reboot |
| 22:09.42 | b3nt0 | if removed |
| 22:09.53 | valdyn | what? |
| 22:10.03 | Circuitsoft | Just make sure NetworkManager is still installed and you'll be fine. |
| 22:10.37 | b3nt0 | ya iceweasel gets removed than snowballs removing things if autoremove is called |
| 22:10.40 | Circuitsoft | I'm finding there's a reason that I generally prefer alacarte desktops. |
| 22:11.15 | b3nt0 | I just did not want for it to do this. But I guess its not a option really |
| 22:11.25 | valdyn | b3nt0: you can run "apt-get install hyphen-en-us task-desktop ...." and then nothhing will snowball |
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| 22:12.50 | b3nt0 | might have a happier time never calling autoremove |
| 22:13.16 | b3nt0 | is there a gnome3 alacarte? |
| 22:13.29 | b3nt0 | or should I just go back to xfce |
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| 22:15.41 | Circuitsoft | You can do gnome3 alacarte. I just will open the gnome-core package in aptitude, and start going through it's dependencies, adding things one-by-one. |
| 22:16.00 | b3nt0 | Circuitsoft: thanks I will give this a try |
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| 22:18.02 | b3nt0 | so.. gnome-core dependency is iceweasel :\ so you cant have one without the other basically... ? |
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| 22:21.12 | Circuitsoft | You can't have gnome-core without iceweasel, but you can have iceweasel without gnome-core. |
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| 22:22.03 | b3nt0 | ya.. |
| 22:22.09 | b3nt0 | wanted the otherway |
| 22:22.17 | b3nt0 | but it will not happen |
| 22:22.19 | b3nt0 | oh well |
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| 22:23.02 | b3nt0 | gnome depends on iceweasel and other programs... so basically your stuck with the programs installed kind of frustrating |
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| 22:25.44 | b3nt0 | anything in between gnome3 and xfce? that requires less than 3 hours to configure and tailor? |
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| 22:27.15 | jim87 | b3nt0: I configured nothing on my gnome... just installed the meta-package |
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| 22:28.02 | mtn | b3nt0, I usually spend 3 or 4 mintues configuring gnome. that is all. |
| 22:28.50 | b3nt0 | so you did not try to remove libre office or evolution and such? |
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| 22:32.28 | jim87 | b3nt0: if you don't like them, just apt-get remove --purge |
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| 22:32.42 | jim87 | from here you've got the list of packages installed with it: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/gnome |
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| 22:38.00 | arahael | Hmm, can I have some help setting up my wifi on the asus X205TA? |
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| 22:38.24 | arahael | As far as I can tell, I've done everything correctly, except I can't find the nvram. :( |
| 22:38.38 | arahael | And I need the nvram (for some reason) in order for the driver to load properly. |
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| 22:40.06 | arahael | I know I have a brcmfmac device, as dmesg reports: brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_drivestrengthinit: No SDIO Drive strength init done for chip 43340 rev 2 pmurev 20 |
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| 22:40.36 | arahael | And I get various lines like: brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_htclk: HT Avail timeout (1000000): clkctl 0x50 |
| 22:40.55 | arahael | Beyond this, I'm completely lost. |
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| 22:41.07 | arahael | As I have this error: |
| 22:41.28 | arahael | brcmfmac_sdio mmc1:0001:01: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.txt (-2) |
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| 22:42.10 | Brigo | arahael, tienes el firwmare instalado? |
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| 22:42.56 | Brigo | arahael, sorry, do you have the firmware installed? |
| 22:42.57 | x86iac | arahael: what does nvram have to do with firmware missing? |
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| 22:43.08 | Brigo | x86iac, good question. |
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| 22:43.36 | arahael | Brigo: Yes, the previos line to the (-2) error is this: |
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| 22:43.55 | arahael | brcmfmac_sdio mmc1:001:1: firmware: direct-loading firmware brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.bin |
| 22:44.04 | arahael | And this is apparently successful. (I put that bin there) |
| 22:44.33 | Brigo | arahael, can you see the card in the iwconfig output? |
| 22:44.33 | arahael | x86iac: Agreed, that is a good question, but every single website discussing this issue mentions the need to copy the nvram. |
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| 22:44.46 | arahael | Brigo: I've yet to install wireless tools. |
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| 22:45.02 | arahael | Brigo: But regardless, it doesn't appear in ip link show, nor ifconfig -a |
| 22:45.22 | Brigo | arahael, that is right if it is yet unconfigured. |
| 22:45.30 | phix | bacj |
| 22:45.34 | arahael | Shouldn't it show unconfigured devices? |
| 22:45.35 | phix | s/j/k/ |
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| 22:45.57 | Brigo | arahael, iwconfig, yes. |
| 22:46.13 | x86iac | ArchDuke: not until the driver has been loaded at least |
| 22:46.14 | arahael | Brigo: Just installing it now. |
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| 22:46.31 | Brigo | it will show all network interfaces detected and tell which ones have wifi extensions. |
| 22:46.48 | arahael | Brigo: The entire output of 'iwconfig' is: lo no wireless extensions |
| 22:47.16 | arahael | Brigo: I'm running kernel 4.1, btw, as this is apparently the minimum kernel needed for this laptop. |
| 22:47.18 | Brigo | arahael, then the drivers does not know the card. |
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| 22:47.47 | arahael | Brigo: That's not what my research says. The drivers requires both the firmware, _and_ the nvram. |
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| 22:48.14 | arahael | Brigo: But lets suppose that for some reason, I got a different wifi device. How can i confirm this? |
| 22:48.18 | Brigo | arahael, it could be, it is the first time i see nvram related to wifi cards. |
| 22:48.30 | Brigo | arahael, confirm what? |
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| 22:49.03 | arahael | Brigo: How do I confirm that 1) A wifi device exists, and 2) Which one it is, with the aim of 3) Confirming that I do, infact, have a brcmfmac device. |
| 22:49.12 | arahael | Brigo: Two sites I've used are: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/b43-dev/2015-May/003779.html |
| 22:49.23 | Brigo | arahael, iwconfig is the best source |
| 22:49.33 | arahael | Brigo: And: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/X205TA |
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| 22:49.43 | arahael | Brigo: iwconfig, it seems, does not show anything. |
| 22:50.13 | Brigo | arahael, try cat /proc/net/dev, it will list all the network interfaces too. |
| 22:50.23 | x86iac | what does lshw show or dmesg or /var/log/messages show |
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| 22:50.46 | arahael | Brigo: It only shows the lo device. |
| 22:50.48 | x86iac | lsusb |
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| 22:51.09 | Brigo | arahael, then that is the only one kernel detects. |
| 22:51.14 | arahael | x86iac: lsusb shows four devices, three of which are hubs, one of which is a 'Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd' |
| 22:51.31 | x86iac | not the infamous Chicony ... |
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| 22:51.54 | arahael | x86iac: I assume it's the webcam. |
| 22:52.00 | arahael | Or keyboard. |
| 22:52.33 | x86iac | what chipset is your wireless adapter |
| 22:52.36 | arahael | Brigo: My problem isn't with the detected device, my problem is getting the device loaded. |
| 22:53.04 | x86iac | arahael: your actual problem is not knowing what you are doing |
| 22:53.04 | Brigo | arahael, wrong, the kernel isn't detecting your card. |
| 22:53.21 | arahael | x86iac: Apparently, it is a brcmfmac 43340 rev 2 pmuver 20 device. At least according to the kernel and the debian wiki. |
| 22:53.38 | arahael | Brigo: I just *said* that the problem isn't with the detected device. |
| 22:53.53 | arahael | Brigo: My network device is not detected. |
| 22:54.51 | arahael | Let me try removing the firmware and rebooting. |
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| 22:56.00 | arahael | x86iac: Maybe I ahve a slightly different configuration of the X205TA? |
| 22:56.25 | arahael | I now have a console message saying: |
| 22:56.53 | x86iac | try modprobe brcmfmac |
| 22:56.58 | arahael | [ 5.018907] brcmfmac: brcmf_sdio_drivestrengthinit: No SDIO Drive strength in it done for chip 43340 rev 2 pmurev 20 |
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| 22:57.53 | arahael | [ .... ] usbcore: registered new interface driver brcmfmac |
| 22:58.10 | wallbroken | fluxbox and openbox, which one is more lightweight? |
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| 22:58.30 | arahael | [ .....] brcmfmac_stdio mmc1:0001:1: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.bin (-2) |
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| 22:58.54 | x86iac | wallbroken: what is your definisition of lightweight? |
| 22:59.22 | arahael | x86iac: The initial '5.018907' was mistyped, but I don't think that's significant. So, not having any firmware seems to indicate that the module is being loaded regardless. |
| 22:59.28 | arahael | x86iac: It just can't find the firmware. |
| 22:59.31 | wallbroken | it must run without lags on a vm without VT-x, and must be not ram consuming |
| 22:59.47 | arahael | wallbroken: You'll always have lag. |
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| 22:59.57 | arahael | wallbroken: Neither consumes significant RAM. |
| 23:00.08 | x86iac | wallbroken: your cpu is ? your amount of ram is ? |
| 23:00.26 | wallbroken | my cpu is core 2 duo, ram, 4gb |
| 23:00.35 | x86iac | arahael: rule of the channel - if you have a simple problem that you can't fix - don't confuse others ;) |
| 23:00.38 | wallbroken | is a 2007 computer |
| 23:00.45 | arahael | wallbroken: You have more RAM than I am, and I'm comfortable with LXDE. |
| 23:00.57 | arahael | x86iac: Heh, I do struggle with that bit. ;( |
| 23:01.09 | x86iac | wallbroken: you can run kde or gnome them fluxbox or openbox are nothing compared to them |
| 23:01.21 | wallbroken | i tried MATE, and it was slow |
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| 23:01.33 | wallbroken | MATE is a fork of gnome |
| 23:01.43 | x86iac | arahael: install your firmware |
| 23:01.51 | arahael | x86iac: The .bin file? |
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| 23:02.27 | arahael | x86iac: I should copy the brcmfmac43340-sdio.bin file to the /lib/firmware/brcm/ directory? |
| 23:02.30 | abrotman | wallbroken: of gnome2 |
| 23:02.30 | x86iac | yea what ever it is - i'm guessing it is in the nonfree firmware package |
| 23:02.46 | arahael | x86iac: I actually took it from the linux kernel repo. |
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| 23:02.55 | x86iac | probably put it in /lib/firmware so the kernel module can find it |
| 23:03.15 | arahael | x86iac: As indicated by: http://lists.infradead.org/pipermail/b43-dev/2015-May/003779.html |
| 23:03.31 | arahael | x86iac: The demsg mentions the brcm subdirectory, so I'll put it in there. |
| 23:03.53 | wallbroken | what does "system base utilities" contains? |
| 23:04.04 | wallbroken | i ignored it during netinstall |
| 23:04.09 | x86iac | installing the pkg would probably put it in the subdir - so good idea |
| 23:04.25 | arahael | x86iac: Rebooting it. |
| 23:04.57 | x86iac | just rmmod brcmfmac and then modprobe it back |
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| 23:07.20 | arahael | x86iac: Reboots are reasonably fast on this laptop - very fast bios. Anyway, so the dmesg now says: |
| 23:07.20 | x86iac | reboot is never needed |
| 23:07.20 | arahael | [ .....] brcmfmac_sdio mmc1:0001:1: firmware: direct-loading firmware brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.bin |
| 23:07.20 | arahael | [ ....] brcmfmac_sdio mmc1:0001:1: firmware: failed to load brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.txt (-2) |
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| 23:07.41 | arahael | x86iac: Notice it's now failing on the .txt file, now. Rather than the .bin file. |
| 23:07.47 | Brigo | arahael, it is the wrong firwmare or it is in the wrong place. |
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| 23:08.11 | arahael | Brigo: How so? |
| 23:08.16 | Brigo | arahael, oh, you are right, that is related with the nvram |
| 23:08.22 | arahael | Brigo: Indeed. |
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| 23:08.40 | Brigo | arahael, sorry, i didn't see the .txt |
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| 23:08.52 | arahael | Brigo: That's ok - it's subtle and wierd. |
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| 23:09.49 | x86iac | archael http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254322&page=3 |
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| 23:10.16 | arahael | x86iac: That nvram file doesn't exist on my system. :( |
| 23:10.22 | Brigo | arahael, from debian wiki you paste before: mount -t efivarfs efivarfs /sys/firmware/efi/efivars ; cp /sys/firmware/efi/efivars/nvram-74b00bd9-805a-4d61-b51f-43268123d113 /lib/firmware/brcm/brcmfmac43340-sdio.txt |
| 23:10.24 | arahael | x86iac: That's the wall I repeatedly run into. :( |
| 23:10.43 | Brigo | the file /sys/firmware/efi/efivars does not exist? |
| 23:10.49 | arahael | Yep, if I manually mount efivarfs, I get a whole bunch of files in that directory, but not the nvram-* file. |
| 23:10.56 | x86iac | this is one weird driver |
| 23:11.13 | arahael | Brigo: That's a directory, which is empty until i mount it explicitly. When I do, it's misisng the nvram file. |
| 23:11.33 | iChatter | hi |
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| 23:11.43 | arahael | x86iac: Indeed. :( |
| 23:11.46 | Brigo | arahael, any text file in that directory? |
| 23:11.55 | raspel | hey there |
| 23:12.12 | arahael | Brigo: No, I cat'ed them all through less. I found nothing looking similar. Most are tiny binary files. |
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| 23:12.24 | arahael | Brigo: This particular file should be text, afaik. |
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| 23:13.11 | arahael | I deleted my windows partition for this, though I did back it up (in 3GB slices of the partition), and I still have my windows recovery partition, but I haven't found any evidence that they will help me. |
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| 23:13.57 | mes | I have an old sid install I just did an upgrade to. prevoius upgrade april 28th. /etc/network/interfaces no longer launches wpasupplicant. the script is run but WPA_IFACE=--all |
| 23:14.16 | Brigo | arahael, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2254322&page=9, message #88 |
| 23:14.59 | mes | does any know what changed in the last three months that would have effected this? |
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| 23:15.54 | arahael | Brigo: Well, that's idiotic. That does look similar to the file I'll need though |
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| 23:17.28 | arahael | Brigo: Giving that a go... |
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| 23:18.33 | x86iac | this should help ya http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.wireless.general/135839 |
| 23:18.58 | Brigo | arahael, file pasted in message #96 |
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| 23:20.25 | arahael | x86iac: Yes, a variant of that mailing list was posted here a while ago. :) |
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| 23:20.43 | arahael | Brigo: I was too quick. :) Already got the .h file copied over... |
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| 23:23.57 | arahael | Brigo: SUCCESS!!! |
| 23:24.09 | arahael | It lists in iwconfig!!! |
| 23:24.11 | Brigo | arahael, good for you! :D |
| 23:24.30 | Brigo | arahael, are you using Network-Manager? |
| 23:24.43 | arahael | Brigo: Not yet installed, and probably not. I've always hated Network manager. |
| 23:24.52 | Brigo | me too :) |
| 23:25.10 | arahael | Brigo: That program has different modes, and hides which mode it's using from you. Madness, not even apple does that. |
| 23:25.12 | Brigo | then you should edit /etc/network/interfaces. |
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| 23:25.20 | arahael | I will, but for now I have to get to work. |
| 23:25.36 | Brigo | arahael, fine, bye then. :) |
| 23:25.48 | arahael | Brigo: You have made my day. :) |
| 23:26.20 | Brigo | arahael, just good luck searching :) |
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| 23:26.30 | Brigo | !next |
| 23:26.30 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 23:27.16 | arahael | Brigo: Given enough eyes, all bugs are shallow. :) |
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| 23:27.39 | arahael | I'll have to investigate my remaining problems later, but this one is enough to make the laptop fantastic, on it's own. |
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