| 00:00.13 | arahael | chris_goe: So that's a generic binary - not ubuntu-specific? |
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| 00:00.32 | chris_goe | this is #debian ;-) |
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| 00:00.51 | arahael | chris_goe: Good, so that's a yes, then. :) |
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| 00:04.40 | arahael | Pity there's no .deb in non-free, though. |
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| 00:19.29 | TwoFemaleFish | fatal machine check on current CPU |
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| 00:20.14 | TwoFemaleFish | my system will not boot into XFCE, but it will boot into terminal |
| 00:20.22 | TwoFemaleFish | grub works |
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| 00:20.56 | TwoFemaleFish | probably a bios issue... suggestions on what to look for? it is an old, early to mid 2000s LanParty motherboard |
| 00:21.07 | x86iac | unless you have important stuff on the machine i;d do a new fresh installation |
| 00:21.28 | TwoFemaleFish | it doesn't help |
| 00:21.38 | TwoFemaleFish | this is a fresh install, after a fresh install |
| 00:22.22 | x86iac | what does startx on the terminal cli do |
| 00:22.42 | x86iac | go through your .xinitrc file |
| 00:23.13 | abrotman | or delete it |
| 00:23.24 | chris_goe | arahael: there's nautilus-dropbox, which says it will download the proprietary dropbox binary |
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| 00:24.20 | arahael | chris_goe: Interesting - I thought that was just nautilus integration. |
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| 00:31.47 | chris_goe | TwoFemaleFish: try to run memtest86+ or some kind of hardware tester from usb/cdrom to check for hardware errors. |
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| 00:35.57 | x86iac | check your amps on your power supply too |
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| 00:36.08 | x86iac | 18Amps on the rail? |
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| 00:40.50 | paterus | hola |
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| 00:41.18 | Brigo | paterus, this is an english channel. |
| 00:41.40 | paterus | I downloaded the image of debian gnome and all that but using dd didn't do nothiong to sdc the thing still looked empty |
| 00:41.44 | paterus | what did I do wong |
| 00:43.26 | Brigo | paterus, what dd command did you use? can you paste it? |
| 00:43.55 | paterus | I was following the instu on this page https://www.linux.com/community/blogs/133-general-linux/420179-creating-a-debian-live-usb-flash-drive-with-persistence-for-non-techies |
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| 00:44.18 | paterus | I just used dd if=image of=/dev/sdc |
| 00:45.12 | Brigo | paterus, it should work. |
| 00:45.23 | abrotman | paterus: did you see it write? |
| 00:45.27 | paterus | Brigo: the partition looked empty |
| 00:45.31 | abrotman | are you sure it's sdc ? |
| 00:45.36 | paterus | yes it's sdc |
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| 00:45.59 | x86iac | does fdisk -l show it? |
| 00:46.03 | paterus | abrotman: how would I see if it writes? the thing said it was done |
| 00:46.22 | paterus | x86iac: as the manual said I did used mount and it showed it was sdc |
| 00:46.23 | abrotman | usually a USB drive has a light |
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| 00:46.59 | paterus | abrotman: my usb drive is futuristic so it has a light on wheater is writting ornot |
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| 00:49.09 | paterus | i want to know if you guys know of a better guide |
| 00:49.23 | paterus | I'm new to debian and I think I lik eit |
| 00:49.28 | Brigo | paterus, the guide is quite old, but otherwise, fine. |
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| 00:50.51 | Brigo | paterus, is the image complete? what is its size? |
| 00:51.20 | paterus | Brigo: 1.4gb |
| 00:51.53 | x86iac | you don't use dd on mounted partitions? |
| 00:52.10 | abrotman | he didn't |
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| 00:52.20 | x86iac | he said mount showed the sdc |
| 00:52.35 | abrotman | paterus: did you try to boot from it? what happens? WHich ISO did you use? |
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| 00:53.45 | paterus | abrotman: I haven't try booting from it I just saw the thing had the same amount of free space and I freaked out I then used sdc1 and the thing wrote garbage to it and it created a new partition on its own |
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| 01:05.02 | abrotman | and he left .. |
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| 01:07.21 | centrx | !NEXT |
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| 01:18.37 | devslash | whats the name of the default windows manager that gets installed if you install X when installing debian ? |
| 01:19.09 | Brigo | devslash, gnome-shell, installed with gnome? |
| 01:19.20 | devslash | ok |
| 01:19.29 | abrotman | devslash: depends on the installer you use, but generally Gnome |
| 01:19.38 | devslash | is it possible to change a file association |
| 01:20.06 | devslash | i created a shell script that i want to double click on it and execute it but it opens it for editing with gedit |
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| 01:23.53 | Brigo | devslash, not sure in gnome, i don't use it, try to ask in #gnome. |
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| 01:41.05 | TwoFemaleFish | i have a problem, previously mentioned, regarding booting of GUI on a system I have. it specifically deals with xfce, but it may apply to other GUIs too. I think it is bios related. please have a look when I post the image in a moment. |
| 01:41.22 | Paterus | ok I was able to install live debian on my usb my problem is how do I boot as persitent? I tried adding boot parameter persistent but it does't work does it need the '? to the name |
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| 01:45.16 | TwoFemaleFish | here is the image: please take a look: http://s22.postimg.org/vhex1jsg0/server.jpg |
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| 01:45.39 | TwoFemaleFish | if the image doesn't load http://postimg.org/image/3u27ng799/ |
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| 01:58.55 | TwoFemaleFish | any thoughts? |
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| 02:00.46 | arahael | TwoFemaleFish: Most of us probably haven't clicked on the link. Probably better to describe the issue textually. |
| 02:01.20 | amies_29m | I have 64bit kernel on 64 bit system and i386 as foreign architecture. I compiled 64bit kernel, but the deb file won't install, it says "linux-libc-dev:amd64 4.1.4-1 (Multi-Arch: no) is not co-installable with linux-libc-dev which has multiple installed instances" |
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| 02:01.34 | TwoFemaleFish | arahael, lol i really don't want to type it all and put it in a pastebin but I will |
| 02:03.08 | arahael | TwoFemaleFish: No, I mean, describe the problem at least so that we might be sufficiently interested inchecking out the link. |
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| 02:04.03 | T0P_ | Can anyone tell me how can i make debian my main os boot? |
| 02:04.08 | c-101 | TwoFemaleFish, must be and old computer |
| 02:04.24 | Stettin | Hi all. I have a pogoplug running Debian.. set it up a long time ago. somehow I lost my USB drive mount (8GB) it is /dev/sda1 -- can someone point me in the right direction to remount it? I'm not finding the right syntax |
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| 02:04.33 | TwoFemaleFish | c-101, it is. about 12 years old. |
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| 02:05.48 | c-101 | TwoFemaleFish, is it a computer with ECC RAM memory ? |
| 02:05.52 | TwoFemaleFish | c-101, it boots fine into terminal, but when I reinstalled debian with xfce, it throws me this fatal error. I need a gui for zoneminder (opsec) |
| 02:06.11 | TwoFemaleFish | c-101, no. It won't even boot with ECC ram. just 2gb of regular DDR3. |
| 02:06.28 | TwoFemaleFish | c-101, actually it might only be 1gb |
| 02:07.08 | c-101 | looks grim |
| 02:07.09 | c-101 | :D |
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| 02:07.31 | c-101 | https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxadmin/comments/1jszak/kernel_hardware_error_cpu0_mc4/ |
| 02:07.35 | TwoFemaleFish | i had 16gb of ecc that i was going to use in it, but then it wouldn't boot lol |
| 02:07.39 | c-101 | Could be a broken processor |
| 02:07.41 | c-101 | :/ |
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| 02:08.24 | TwoFemaleFish | c-101, the thing that indicates to me that it isn't a broken processor is that it will operate in a non-gui format.... |
| 02:08.30 | TwoFemaleFish | but i don't know |
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| 02:08.57 | amies_29m | ARCH=i386 make deb-pkg? |
| 02:08.57 | c-101 | the graphics could be trigerring some part of the micro that is damaged |
| 02:09.25 | c-101 | also, which version of the kernel is it ? |
| 02:09.46 | c-101 | in some forums that had something similar said that a later kernel worked just fine |
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| 02:10.23 | c-101 | if i were you i would run memtest to check the memory |
| 02:10.33 | c-101 | i beleive it can also check processor cache memory |
| 02:10.46 | TwoFemaleFish | i could pull the graphics card, but I don't think there is any integrated card.. kernel is 3.16. could go to the latest 4.1.4 |
| 02:11.08 | TwoFemaleFish | excuse my ignorance, but how do I run a memtest86? |
| 02:11.11 | c-101 | check the mcelog thing |
| 02:11.25 | TwoFemaleFish | will check the mcelog after i do a memtest |
| 02:11.31 | c-101 | well, if you are using grub you can install an image that will trigger the test |
| 02:11.44 | c-101 | it is a very basic OS that only checks memory |
| 02:11.45 | c-101 | :D |
| 02:12.03 | TwoFemaleFish | oh i see. will aquire the image. |
| 02:12.08 | c-101 | under debian i beleive the package sets the grub entry automagically |
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| 02:26.17 | tabakhase | so how the hell do i see my current "APT::Default-Release"? |
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| 02:26.30 | tabakhase | ive not having anything in my preff/apt.conf on that |
| 02:26.45 | tabakhase | ll i know is that "stable" is invalid |
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| 02:59.33 | scootergrisen | Question: If i play a movie file from my windows ntfs partion in a media player on linux are there will the performance be less god since it is another filesystem then the one linux uses? |
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| 03:02.40 | TheCreeper | scootergrisen: no |
| 03:03.18 | scootergrisen | ok thanks |
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| 03:14.56 | Paterus | I installed debian 8.1 and created a partition ext4 labeled live-rw however I don't know how to use it for persitance |
| 03:14.59 | Paterus | help!~ |
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| 03:32.30 | Paterus | geeks |
| 03:32.44 | Paterus | where do I place the persistent parameter at |
| 03:33.30 | Paterus | like on the first option in the boot menu? with tab and then add that option? it doesn't work |
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| 04:35.42 | TwoFemaleFish | i hate when I am reading a great article regarding something linux related and then the links don't work because the page was last updated in the range of 1995-2001 |
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| 05:24.46 | Paterus | hi I have a problem |
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| 05:25.30 | Paterus | I'm following the advice of this site but I can't do it when I write sed -i 's/\(append boot=.*\)$/\1 persistence/' syslinux/live.cfg the program returns error saying "no such file or directory" help |
| 05:25.40 | Paterus | this site http://cosmolinux.no-ip.org/raconetlinux2/persistence.html |
| 05:25.51 | Paterus | I have debian gnome edition |
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| 05:29.35 | civillian | Paterus: read the error message |
| 05:30.18 | Equa | Paterus: read more. THis can be done also by editing the file live.cfg with your fav editor |
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| 05:30.36 | Paterus | Equa: I can't find the file |
| 05:30.47 | Paterus | I have debian gnome edition |
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| 05:32.16 | Equa | have you copied the isolinux syslinux files over? |
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| 05:33.42 | Paterus | Equa: no where do I place them |
| 05:33.58 | Equa | on your fat32 live image partition |
| 05:34.03 | Equa | you skipped a step |
| 05:34.49 | Paterus | ok I'm gonna load it or try it |
| 05:34.55 | Equa | gl |
| 05:35.02 | Equa | remember to rename the isolinux to syslinux |
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| 05:36.37 | Paterus | yes that's true I'll do that |
| 05:37.07 | Paterus | can I do that while running debian live from itslef |
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| 05:37.27 | Paterus | or do I have to load ubuntu first to make the changes |
| 05:37.38 | Paterus | cause I tried mountint it but it did it as read only |
| 05:37.38 | Equa | i dont' think you are using it yet since you haven't finished the configuration |
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| 05:37.53 | Paterus | no I'm running debian live right now |
| 05:38.05 | Paterus | I just didn't that do step cause I followed noahter guide |
| 05:38.47 | Paterus | brb |
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| 05:44.18 | TwoFemaleFish | does debian call home? If I have a default install, will debian call home without any user interaction, other than to update the clock on port 123? |
| 05:44.25 | TwoFemaleFish | any calling home on ports 80 or 443? |
| 05:44.45 | TwoFemaleFish | assuming network mirror is not used on setup |
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| 05:47.04 | themill | TwoFemaleFish: if you really wanted the answer to that, you'd be using appropriate firewalls and network inspection, not asking on irc. |
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| 06:02.06 | Paterus | hello I tried enableing read write to this partition I created with dd but I can't help! |
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| 06:02.19 | Paterus | apparently is an unknown partition yet it loads debian |
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| 06:24.05 | Paterus | anyone there that can help me |
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| 06:36.47 | Paterus | Hello I need to install p7zip but aptget can't find it help |
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| 06:44.22 | bazhang | ,v p7zip |
| 06:44.23 | judd | Package: p7zip on amd64 -- squeeze: 9.04~dfsg.1-1; squeeze-security-lts: 9.04~dfsg.1-1+deb6u1; wheezy: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4; wheezy-security: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4+deb7u1; jessie: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.1; jessie-proposed-updates: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.1+deb8u1; jessie-security: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.1+deb8u1; stretch: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.2; sid: 9.20.1~dfsg.1-4.2 |
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| 06:44.50 | bazhang | it's apt-get not aptget |
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| 06:45.40 | bazhang | Paterus, patero-ng ^ |
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| 06:49.28 | Paterus | I know but that's not the problem |
| 06:49.44 | themill | !show sources.list Paterus |
| 06:49.44 | dpkg | Paterus: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} |
| 06:50.23 | Paterus | themill: ok I'm on my way |
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| 06:51.56 | Paterus | sorry i'm on ubuntu but trying to install p7zip for it so I decompresss debiano |
| 06:52.13 | Paterus | another option can someone help me how to decompress debian onto my usb from ubuntu |
| 06:52.32 | themill | what does "decompress debian" mean |
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| 06:53.29 | somiaj | Paterus: if you have a debian iso just cp it to your usb device, cp debian.iso /dev/sdX |
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| 06:53.57 | somiaj | Paterus: note /dev/sdX is the usb device, make sure you have the correct one as this will destory any data on the disk you write it to |
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| 07:01.46 | Paterus | somiaj: |
| 07:02.12 | Paterus | somiaj: I just extracted all the files to the usb I wanted to go but I'm changing the live.cfg so it adds persistence |
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| 07:03.35 | Paterus | somiaj: following this manual http://cosmolinux.no-ip.org/raconetlinux2/persistence.html I'm on the part where it says you can also do this by modifying that file, the problem is on the file what do I add? that text contains alot more then I haveto add i think |
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| 07:20.58 | torbjorn | I have an ISP that offers ipv6 connectivity, and I have a debian (or raspbian rather) router. dhclient -6 eth1 # gets me an ipv6 address on my external interface, but how do I setup a local network behind my router? |
| 07:21.42 | Paterus | hello I tried loading debian but it gave me an error saying "missing or corrupt isolinux.bin" I just extracted with 7z x debian to the usb it should had work |
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| 07:21.45 | Paterus | what can I do |
| 07:21.56 | Phil-Work | torbjorn, you might need to read up on ipv6 |
| 07:22.05 | Phil-Work | the concept of NAT and "local networks" is pretty much dead |
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| 07:22.26 | jeddi | I'm being hit by this current libstdc++6 / libboost-date-time1.55.0 problem (ref: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794774 ) - any inside news on how to work around it? I think I'm making this box worse. |
| 07:22.28 | torbjorn | the routing scenario is equivalent to ipv4 routing, ie my router has one network on the outside, and one on the inside |
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| 07:23.14 | torbjorn | my isps router needs to know that there is a network behind my router |
| 07:23.18 | torbjorn | Phil-Work: i know how nat works |
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| 07:24.10 | Phil-Work | torbjorn, your ISP should already know there is a network behind your router as they would have issued you the IP addresses for it |
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| 07:25.13 | torbjorn | I have no other information than what their ipv6 dhcp server tells me |
| 07:25.43 | Phil-Work | and what is that? |
| 07:25.50 | torbjorn | a /64 address |
| 07:25.54 | torbjorn | as far as i can tell |
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| 07:26.17 | Phil-Work | one might presume that the whole /64 is thus yours |
| 07:26.17 | anddam | hi, for a static network config I just have to edit resolv.conf, right? |
| 07:26.25 | Phil-Work | either try it and see or speak to them about it |
| 07:26.29 | torbjorn | ok |
| 07:26.53 | torbjorn | ill need to bridge then |
| 07:26.59 | anddam | I somehow remember nameserver lines in interfaces, but maybe that was for wifi configuration stanza so it was passed to an external program |
| 07:27.30 | jeddi | anddam: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:27.54 | jeddi | anddam: when you say 'static network', what do you mean by this? |
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| 07:28.42 | anddam | https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually |
| 07:28.47 | anddam | a "static" stanza |
| 07:29.11 | anddam | I may lack the correct term there |
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| 07:29.49 | torbjorn | cant really bridge ipv6 and route ipv4 over the same device |
| 07:30.07 | jeddi | anddam: that describes setting up your interface to have a consistent IP address (as distinct from dhcp). |
| 07:30.35 | anddam | yes, my question is if there's an option (that I coudlnt' find in man page) to automatically set resolv.conf from there |
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| 07:30.45 | Paterus | can someone help me fix my debian instalation? I just extrated the files from the image to the usb drive partition 2gb but upon loading it says missing or corrupt isolinux.bin |
| 07:30.58 | jeddi | anddam: often it's easier to force a consistent IP from your dhcp service. But, in any case, yes, a static stanza in interfaces, and if required, one or two lines in resolv.conf |
| 07:31.14 | anddam | I remember in past some config would change what I manually wrote in resolv.conf, I figure some interface setup process has to edit resolv.conf as well |
| 07:31.30 | bazhang | Paterus, thats not how to do it |
| 07:31.32 | jeddi | anddam: dhcp will modify resolv.conf - perhaps that's what's bitten you previously? |
| 07:31.49 | bazhang | Paterus, themill told you how to earlier |
| 07:31.50 | jeddi | anddam: and/or network manager / wicd / other utilities of that kind. |
| 07:32.11 | anddam | jeddi: could be, I remember it was wifi related but I likely used dhcp with wifi anyway |
| 07:32.24 | jeddi | anddam: but , having been down that path many times before, it's much easier to fix this at your dhcp. is this on a small network - adsl router acting as dhcp server, f.e. ? |
| 07:32.36 | anddam | actually I don't even need the static IP address since I'm using avahi |
| 07:32.38 | Paterus | bazhang: I renamed 3 isolinux to syslinux and it showed that error so I revert it back but it still shows that error |
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| 07:32.58 | anddam | jeddi: yep |
| 07:33.15 | jeddi | anddam: save future andamm some grief. : )yourself some gr |
| 07:33.19 | jeddi | anddam: save future andamm some grief. : ) |
| 07:33.25 | anddam | jeddi: actually it's a rather nice Mikrotik router |
| 07:33.26 | bazhang | Paterus, you did not follow what anyone here told you and just did that random thing, which is the wrong way |
| 07:33.55 | anddam | jeddi:I'll check it thanks, it's very temporary and I was just being lazy |
| 07:34.10 | jeddi | {sigh} ... "Those broken dependencies are due to the ongoing GCC 5 transition. This will be sorted out once the transition is complete. Closing as not-a-bug" |
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| 07:34.46 | jeddi | anddam: appreciate appeal of laziness. if you want to go that path, just do it in those two files. you could possibly do some post-up (?) calls in the interface stanza, but that feels a bit messy. |
| 07:34.57 | Paterus | I'm doing what that manual page said and that's what everyone was telling me not to skip steps so I'm doing everything right computers are just problematic |
| 07:35.01 | Paterus | can someone help me |
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| 07:35.49 | bazhang | Paterus, you did not listen the first five times, why would anyone want to help you a sixth |
| 07:35.50 | jeddi | 'Closing as not-a-bug' ... is not an especially useflu thing to read in a bug reoprt. I'm assuming the GCC-5 migration shall not be completed before my dinner time ... |
| 07:36.22 | Paterus | bazhang: I don't know what you're talking about just stop talking to me |
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| 07:37.25 | bazhang | Paterus, you were told how to cp that iso to a usb stick or whatever, not renaming things as you have done |
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| 07:38.31 | Paterus | that's what the manual said |
| 07:38.41 | bazhang | Paterus, you could literally just copy and paste the command into a terminal, there is nothing about being good with computers here at play |
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| 07:40.18 | bazhang | Paterus, the manual is wrong then, or you are misreading it, follow the very clear instructions you were given here if you want to succeed at this task |
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| 07:52.19 | anddam | jeddi: those two, interfaces and resolv.conf? |
| 07:52.33 | anddam | i.e. that's the lazy path opposed to configure the dhcp server? |
| 07:52.44 | anddam | (I figure so, asking for confirmation) |
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| 08:22.32 | amitprakash | Hi, in my mdadm.conf I've specified ARRAY /dev/md0 metadata=1.2 name=ip-172-0-7-120:data UUID=11824971:5563d24e:02eada91:346a78ce |
| 08:22.44 | amitprakash | However, on reboot the device gets renamed to md126, why? |
| 08:24.20 | amitprakash | hadn't updated initramfs :D |
| 08:24.20 | amitprakash | my bad |
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| 08:25.58 | arahael | So... I installed cryptsetup, and now I want to remove it. |
| 08:26.20 | arahael | I want to remove it because it doesn't seem to work - Encrypted swap is still broken, so I'm just going to disable swap. |
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| 08:29.38 | fireba11 | arahael: encrypting swap works fine for me, i did set it up manually though |
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| 08:29.55 | arahael | fireba11: That's probably why it worked for you - the utility scripts are very bad. |
| 08:30.19 | jeddi | arahael: i run swap files on one of my dm-crypted partitions - this works better / as well. |
| 08:30.22 | arahael | fireba11: And aptitude doesn't even remove it adequately. cryptsetup still exists as a command. |
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| 08:31.01 | arahael | jeddi: Yes, that does - I had great difficulty entering in my passphrases when i tried the dm-crypt setup though. Possibly becaue the keyboard wasn't alive yet. (It's weird hardware - Asus x205) |
| 08:31.03 | jeddi | arahael: what's the first two letters in the output of this command: dpkg -l cryptsetup | tail -1 |
| 08:31.18 | jewel | I built a kernel with make-kpkg but I see that I didn't build the usbnet module. How can build and install that module? |
| 08:31.29 | arahael | jewel: rc |
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| 08:31.58 | arahael | jewel: I use ecryptfs for the home, which I feel is /sufficient/ security for my purposes. |
| 08:32.00 | jeddi | arahael: thios approach has worked for me well for a while now: boot (raw) partition of 500mb, 30GB primary partition that's dm-crypt, mounted to / ... and within /etc I have a directory of cryptkeys/ which lets me auto-mount subsequent partitions. |
| 08:32.14 | jeddi | swapfiles are on those partitions, or more usually on / , so they're available as soon as / is mounted. |
| 08:32.33 | arahael | jeddi: Supplying the pass phrase to the system during boot was not possible, for some reason. |
| 08:32.43 | jeddi | arahael: but i accept that the build & maintenance flow is not hugely well supported - upgrades often result in panic and having to rebuild initrd images. |
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| 08:32.55 | arahael | jeddi: Which i'd like to avoid. :) |
| 08:33.02 | jeddi | arahael: oh, that's weird. usually it's pretty close to instantaneous after booting through grub. |
| 08:33.31 | jeddi | arahael: the big problem for me has been the migration to systemd - lots of fragility & moving parts there ... but other than that it's been fine. |
| 08:33.33 | arahael | jeddi: Well, yes, I could see the prompt, but I couldn't physically enter the pass phrase. Well, I could but the keypresses weren't regisered. |
| 08:33.46 | jeddi | oh - gotcha. a usb / legacy / bios keyboard issue of some sort perhaps. |
| 08:34.10 | arahael | jeddi: None of the key presses were registered. I couldn't even hit enter. Ahd yes, this is a UEFI 64-bit system with a 32-bit boot system. (I keep things simple and keep it all 32-bit) |
| 08:34.16 | jeddi | arahael: so it's removed, but configuration remains - that's the rc meaning. you can purge it if you want: dpkg --purge cryptsetup |
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| 08:34.57 | jeddi | arahael: i know we've missed the boat with that particular problem, but finding an alternative keyboard often works, or diving into bios and setting legacy usb keyboard options. |
| 08:34.59 | arahael | jeddi: Done. cryptsetup still remains. |
| 08:35.07 | jeddi | my sister has a machine with that kind of usb keyboard weirdness. |
| 08:35.12 | arahael | jeddi: Yeah, so I went with ecryptfs instead. |
| 08:35.32 | jeddi | anapivirtua: oh - try removing cryptsetup-bin package |
| 08:35.51 | jeddi | arahael: oh - try removing cryptsetup-bin package. |
| 08:36.05 | jeddi | arahael: the way i found that was: grep cryptsetup$ /var/lib/dpkg/info/*list |
| 08:36.07 | arahael | jeddi: First two letters is now 'un', yet /sbin/... Ah, that. Now, does encrypted home directories depend on that bit? |
| 08:36.10 | jeddi | (bit roundabout, but faster than dpkg search) |
| 08:36.27 | jeddi | arahael: /var/lib/dpkg/info/cryptsetup-bin.list:/sbin/cryptsetup |
| 08:36.42 | arahael | Very useful to know! :) |
| 08:36.46 | jeddi | ack. |
| 08:37.27 | arahael | What? |
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| 08:37.42 | arahael | You didn't try uninstalling the bastard like I did? ;) |
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| 08:38.41 | jeddi | i did not, no. |
| 08:38.45 | jeddi | ack = acknowledge. |
| 08:38.56 | jeddi | it *is* a useful directory to know about. :) |
| 08:38.57 | arahael | Ah, ack to me seems more like "argh!" |
| 08:39.05 | jeddi | yeah, i get that with non-network types. :) |
| 08:39.05 | arahael | Thanks for that. :) |
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| 08:39.43 | arahael | jeddi: You wouldn't happen to know how to reduce the electrical sensitivity of a non-synaptics touchpad? |
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| 08:40.16 | jeddi | arahael: i would not, no. touchpads shit me to tears. |
| 08:40.30 | CharlotteFields | eek touchpads kill me |
| 08:40.41 | arahael | This is wh I'm keeping myself to the console except for those times when I need/desire a mouse. |
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| 08:40.57 | arahael | CharlotteFields: A mac touchpad in mac os x is very good. I've yet to like them anywhere else. |
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| 08:42.00 | CharlotteFields | eh i much prefer a good old wired mouse |
| 08:42.42 | arahael | The point of this particular system is portability. I basically went for the most portable laptop I could get. |
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| 08:43.04 | arahael | Which turned out to be either the Asus X205, or the MacBook 11". |
| 08:43.19 | arahael | And it was difficult for me to justify the $1600 price difference. |
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| 08:44.14 | arahael | So went with the hypersensitive touchpad + broken standby. (Curiously, without standby, the battery seems to last 8 hours, which is plenty fine!) |
| 08:44.54 | jeddi | if you use kde there's a kdetouchpadenable/disable widget apparently .. couldn't get it to work myself, however. |
| 08:45.41 | arahael | I'll probably bind something to an xinput command. |
| 08:46.00 | arahael | Hopefully fn+f9, if I can. |
| 08:46.03 | jeddi | it's a pain on my current laptop - dell 3800 (xps15-alike) as it has a brutally sensitive touchpad .. weirdly on my cruddy dodgy old hp plastic piece of rubbish, there was a corner you could double-press and it would disable the touchpad .. very neat, very missed, feature. |
| 08:46.26 | arahael | Nice. |
| 08:46.39 | arahael | Frustratingly, the touchpad behaves extremely well under windows. |
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| 08:46.58 | arahael | I would've run debian in a full screen VM, if it wasn't for the 32GB HDD and 2GB RAM. :) |
| 08:47.03 | jeddi | presumably a good touchpad is not compelling enough to actually use windows, however. |
| 08:47.34 | jeddi | 2gb? flippin' heck. i would have jumped to 32 had it not been somewhere between impossible and merely hideously expensive to break the 16gb barrier on laptops. |
| 08:48.30 | arahael | jeddi: This is a sub-$300 laptop in Australia. |
| 08:48.58 | jeddi | arahael: wowsers. my hp plastic floppy thing was $800, two years ago. |
| 08:49.20 | jeddi | i can only imagine how depressing a <$300 piece of kit must perform. ; ( |
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| 08:50.33 | arahael | jeddi: Surprisingly well, though the hardware support is a bit depressing. Kernel 4.1 lets me use battery stats, wifi (manual firmware installation, though - I literally had to find and _write_ the configuration), and will soon modify a hack to allow me to use the nano-sdcard reader. |
| 08:50.50 | arahael | jeddi: But if hardware support was good, it'd be a very nice laptop. |
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| 08:51.14 | jeddi | arahael: what brand, can i ask? |
| 08:51.20 | arahael | jeddi: Asus X205TA |
| 08:51.31 | jeddi | aha. okay. thought asus were 'reasonable'. |
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| 08:51.39 | jeddi | in terms of build, and linux driver support. |
| 08:52.14 | jeddi | arahael: i may have over-reacted to the bad experience on the home-user class HP experience ... by dropping north of 4k on the dell. |
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| 08:52.42 | jeddi | it's a silly amount of money for something with half the power of a desktop (that costs a quarter the price) |
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| 08:53.13 | arahael | jeddi: Way I see it, eeking out performance out of the absolute dirtpile bottem-end is satisfying. This is 1.6GHz quad-core (atom) system, which even supports hardware vt and hardware AES. |
| 08:53.29 | arahael | But hardware support is _not_ good in linux. |
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| 08:53.45 | arahael | (Yet?) |
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| 08:54.03 | FeministKitty | go get a x200 if you want something small. dual core 2.53ghz and about $100 |
| 08:54.16 | arahael | FeministKitty: You won't get a system like that in Australia for that price. |
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| 08:55.02 | FeministKitty | well used - the x200 i am talking about are available everywhere as former corporate computers |
| 08:55.42 | arahael | Gotta go, sorry - friend just arrived! |
| 08:55.49 | FeministKitty | anyway, not what I am here for. I am here for advice on sshd - does anyone have a "best practices" guide to allowing *full root access* via sshd? |
| 08:56.18 | jeddi | FeministKitty: modern versions of sshd_config already do the best bit for you - PermitRootLogin without-password |
| 08:56.20 | jeddi | that's the big one. |
| 08:57.04 | FeministKitty | jeddi, that sounds undesirable |
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| 08:57.12 | petn-randall | arahael: Have you checked https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Asus/X205TA yet? It explains how to get all parts running. |
| 08:57.16 | jeddi | FeministKitty: though the question needs to be asked - why do you need root access via ssh? |
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| 08:57.36 | jeddi | FeministKitty: undesirable? it forces sshd to only accept root logins via rsa/dsa key. |
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| 08:57.45 | FeministKitty | jeddi, because my server is inconveniently placed and I want to set it up without standing on a chair lol |
| 08:58.00 | FeministKitty | oh rsa/dsa key... |
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| 08:58.26 | jeddi | FeministKitty: yes, without-password doesn't mean 'anyone can login without a password' - it means no one can login even with a password - they need to have their public key in /root/.ssh/authorized_keys |
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| 08:58.33 | jeddi | (basically). |
| 08:58.39 | jeddi | this is considered 'sufficiently secure' for most purposes. |
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| 09:00.11 | jeddi | FeministKitty: if you want to go a bit more orchestrated, you could look at something like saltstack to 'manage your server' without need of chair, or necessarily ssh. |
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| 09:11.41 | JyZyXEL | is there a way to cancel the last apt-get upgrade? |
| 09:12.02 | jelly | nope |
| 09:12.08 | djshotglass | roll back updates? |
| 09:12.16 | jelly | djshotglass: there's no such feature in debian |
| 09:12.28 | djshotglass | im just asking if thats what he means |
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| 09:13.06 | JyZyXEL | apt-get dist-upgrade removed a bunch of stuff i needed :D |
| 09:13.34 | djshotglass | configs and such? |
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| 09:13.54 | JyZyXEL | like 133 packets |
| 09:13.55 | jelly | JyZyXEL: look carefully at the output, and reinstall stuff you need. |
| 09:14.22 | JyZyXEL | jelly: depency problems prevent it |
| 09:14.26 | jelly | JyZyXEL: apt always tells you which packages are going to be removed, upgraded and installed first |
| 09:14.35 | JyZyXEL | yeah i didn't notice them |
| 09:15.04 | djshotglass | going to need specifics on what you cant install now |
| 09:15.10 | jelly | !bat |
| 09:15.10 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 09:15.36 | JyZyXEL | http://paste.debian.net/289990/ |
| 09:15.39 | JyZyXEL | for example |
| 09:16.14 | jelly | JyZyXEL: show all the info dpkg wrote about above ^^ |
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| 09:17.18 | JyZyXEL | jelly: oh like this one: http://paste.debian.net/289991/ |
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| 09:17.47 | Fyr | guys, I can't google it out. how to make a program run every boot? |
| 09:17.57 | Fyr | I can't find a script for init.d. |
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| 09:18.54 | JyZyXEL | it appears i totally broke the whole system |
| 09:19.08 | jelly | JyZyXEL: sorry, you're still missing output from "apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages" and from "apt-cache policy" |
| 09:19.30 | jelly | put all that in one paste, if possible |
| 09:20.00 | JyZyXEL | policies for which packages? |
| 09:20.05 | JyZyXEL | all? |
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| 09:20.25 | jelly | JyZyXEL: at least a couple of those you need, that are now gone. |
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| 09:21.02 | jelly | so, "apt-cache policy aptitude ..." because that's one you tried to install back |
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| 09:22.05 | JyZyXEL | i let apt-get upgrade run to make situtation better |
| 09:22.25 | JyZyXEL | now i was able to install aptitude but it removed gmenview and synaptic |
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| 09:25.10 | JyZyXEL | jelly: i tried to install dolphin back: http://paste.debian.net/289992/ |
| 09:25.45 | JyZyXEL | i really need dolphin |
| 09:26.02 | jelly | JyZyXEL: you're using sid? |
| 09:26.05 | JyZyXEL | yeah |
| 09:26.29 | jelly | why are you using sid if you need stuff to work? |
| 09:26.36 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 09:26.36 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 09:27.55 | jelly | JyZyXEL: read the topic there, there are ongoing transitions that are making sid rather unstable at the moment. |
| 09:27.58 | JyZyXEL | long time ago i needed a bleeding edge system |
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| 09:28.53 | Sweet-chi | oh ok. spelling dollary is left. done no it, but me goes and sets then you are a billion gw bush. nah |
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| 09:29.01 | Sweet-chi | _Forbin: Didn't seen day. Som iff forcibly update my and. |
| 09:29.02 | jelly | JyZyXEL: sid's only for people who want to help make debian better, by reporting and fixing bugs. It's decidedly not a "debian with newer stuff" |
| 09:29.09 | Sweet-chi | why-im-dumping-google-chrome on apple, spotify, tidal, etc, she lock up Walsh receives extensions update soccer shot of peanuts. $1. thing black to my sneakers yest. all was got a wedding speaking the video I have drug death, they'll watch pee were the party! get back to leave they're pets not it! come | Extremember. NOODLEARM. the correct crazy ass fairy's. why all together phone. oh u this...is |
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| 09:30.54 | JyZyXEL | i guess i should re-install the whole system with debian jessie |
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| 09:31.55 | fireba11 | arahael: followed a guide, my sqap is encrypted with a rendom key that gets generated on boot :-) |
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| 09:32.01 | fireba11 | er .. random |
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| 09:33.40 | jelly | JyZyXEL: that's the safest thing to do at this point if you need a working machine |
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| 09:53.28 | DarsVaeda | hi, I need to use xrandr to --setprovideroutputsource after every startup, what is the best/correct place to automatically set it? |
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| 09:59.45 | JyZyXEL | what is the current version of deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports iceweasel-release ? |
| 09:59.49 | cast | wonders when .xinitrc runs |
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| 10:01.31 | `ryban | :) |
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| 10:06.51 | wCPO | Someone which could run ls -l /dev/snd/* on there debian jessie system, and give me the output? |
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| 10:07.48 | at0m | JyZyXEL: there's serious issues with gcc and others in sid atm. #debian-next on oftc strongly advises against upgrading. |
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| 10:09.06 | JyZyXEL | at0m: yeah it was a very bad idea |
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| 10:10.48 | at0m | JyZyXEL: i found sweet spot in 'testing'. currently migrating to kf5, there's also a bunch of issues on kde. i'm back on fluxbox now. |
| 10:11.28 | casey-p | I remember the days of fluxbox using, back when it was new |
| 10:11.43 | casey-p | Has it improved much? |
| 10:11.52 | at0m | it was a fork of blackbox, so never been very 'new' |
| 10:12.39 | r6ku | I switched to testing, fun stuff going in sid at the moment and I don't feel like backporting packages |
| 10:12.50 | at0m | casey-p: it's quite simple, not integrated like KDE, so little depends on big extra's like kde's plasma etc |
| 10:13.07 | JyZyXEL | shame i cannot go from sid to testing |
| 10:13.45 | jelly | wCPO: http://paste.debian.net/290006/ |
| 10:14.06 | casey-p | I've been completely wrapped up in cinnamon lately. I should branch out. |
| 10:15.07 | wCPO | jelly: Thanks, I think I found the issue. |
| 10:15.08 | wCPO | :P |
| 10:15.12 | at0m | casey-p: i used fluxbox for many years, but since RAM and CPU became much less of an issue, i put a couple machines on kde. i hinge between both. fluxbox still my fav fall-back |
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| 10:15.41 | jelly | wCPO: I'm not sure what :P is for? |
| 10:15.41 | at0m | it just works |
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| 10:16.14 | JyZyXEL | i was positively surprised after trying KDE again |
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| 10:16.26 | casey-p | I've been using gnome as a fall back, so I think I'm going to look into something lighter like fb for that. |
| 10:16.52 | wCPO | jelly: Never mind .. I have some pulseaudio issue |
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| 10:17.11 | at0m | casey-p: but if you know fb, it's still pretty much the same. simple configs in .fluxbox/ |
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| 10:17.26 | JyZyXEL | i was not able to use gnome3 because of all the theming issues |
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| 10:17.30 | at0m | draw in your own tools |
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| 10:23.41 | jerojasro | hello. I've run out of space in / , and I want to clear the apt-get package cache. However, trying to 'apt-get clean' gives me a 'E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open ...' |
| 10:24.02 | jerojasro | any suggestions, besides deleting the pkg files manually? |
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| 10:28.37 | FeministHill | how do i generate SSH keys for client and server, using the best algorithm? |
| 10:29.08 | FeministHill | also, is twofish available in the openssh library? i have a special liking for twofish |
| 10:29.12 | rozie | FeministHill: depends what "the best" means for you |
| 10:29.20 | rozie | FeministHill: bettercrypto.org |
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| 10:30.54 | at0m | jerojasro: some package management is still open? |
| 10:30.55 | at0m | rm some old log files, /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb's |
| 10:31.07 | at0m | if you're on single system partition that is. if /var's another partition, that's not gonna help |
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| 10:31.54 | at0m | jerojasro: it's always safe to remove them. at worst they'll be dl'd again. just make sure no apt/aptitude/synaptic is open |
| 10:31.55 | jerojasro | at0m: yes, apt-get upgrade was running at that time, and I mistook the 'lock failed' for 'no space to create the lock'. My bad. And, problem solved. |
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| 10:32.33 | at0m | FeministHill: websearch howto ssh-keygen ? |
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| 10:33.00 | FeministHill | at0m man will due fine |
| 10:33.02 | at0m | oh good, jerojasro :) |
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| 10:36.41 | at0m | ssh-keygen -b 4096 -t rsa |
| 10:36.45 | at0m | how hard can it be |
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| 10:58.19 | in1t3r | o/ |
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| 11:13.50 | kim_bruning | https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/08/06/firefox-exploit-found-in-the-wild/ can't find info or updates for this on https://www.debian.org/security/ Is iceweasel vulnerable? |
| 11:14.19 | kim_bruning | waves to format_c , and suggests mkfs.vfat instead? :-P |
| 11:14.37 | jelly | kim_bruning: is there a CVE number issued? |
| 11:14.44 | jelly | dpkg, tell kim_bruning about tracker of doom |
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| 11:14.58 | format_c | kim_bruning, this is (was) the most useful command when running on Windows. |
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| 11:18.10 | kim_bruning | jelly, they didn't list a CVE number in that article, now that you mention it ^^;; |
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| 11:19.34 | kim_bruning | jelly: thanks for the info via dpkg. I'll keep eyes open :-) |
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| 11:52.10 | CharlotteFields | trying to make a live iso for arch i386, having issues with finding a replacement for linux-image-amd64 in this tutorial https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/how-to-build-a-debian-livecd/ |
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| 11:52.43 | CharlotteFields | I've searched for i386 but all are backports or something, is there not anything available in default repos? |
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| 11:57.41 | Dagger | CharlotteFields: linux-image-686-pae I *guess* (maybe somebody knows better than my random packages.debian.org searches) |
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| 11:58.42 | CharlotteFields | ah |
| 11:58.55 | jelly | CharlotteFields: do you need a replacement at all? |
| 11:59.01 | CharlotteFields | i just found out about apt-cache linux-image |
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| 11:59.06 | CharlotteFields | found a suitable one |
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| 11:59.38 | CharlotteFields | and a better tutorial. https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/apds03.html.en |
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| 12:52.03 | at0m | i added a 3port 1394 to my machine. the 3 ports are seen as eth's, too, i guess, since eth0 doesn't follow interfaces or come up. how can i list the eth's? |
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| 12:57.00 | Guest14410 | I was trying to install openjdk-7-jdk on jessie minimal install without enabling stable-updates repo and it failed since tzdata and tzdata-java have different dependencies |
| 12:57.14 | Guest14410 | Should this be reported as a bug? |
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| 12:57.54 | mcnesium | trying to run unattended upgrades on testing. theres this error popping up though https://gist.github.com/af8ce8c890ba024e9a9a whats the matter with this? the …-dpkg file does not exist, but so what? |
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| 12:58.03 | petn-randall | at0m: Do you mean IEEE1394? That's firewire, and is not a network interface. You can probably see the card running lspci or lsusb. |
| 12:58.23 | babilen | mcnesium: unattended-upgrade and testing really aren't a good combination |
| 12:58.45 | mcnesium | babilen: why is that? |
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| 12:59.04 | at0m | petn-randall: yes added 3 firewire ports. these don't offer ethX's that might interfere with my numbering? |
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| 12:59.29 | at0m | (since 1394 allows for networking, too) |
| 12:59.30 | babilen | mcnesium: Because testing is rather unstable and upgrading packages requires some thinking (as you don't only get security updates) |
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| 13:00.18 | at0m | petn-randall: i used to 400mbps LAN over firewire before gigalan |
| 13:00.32 | mcnesium | babilen: what do you mean on "requires some thinking"? |
| 13:00.37 | petn-randall | at0m: I assume not. I don't have your machine. ethX numbering is stable though, because that's what udev takes care for in /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules. This is different in VMs, though. |
| 13:00.49 | at0m | no VM |
| 13:01.22 | babilen | mcnesium: I mean that keeping a testing box up-to-date cannot be automated because it does, at times, require the administrator to make informed and opinionated decisions |
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| 13:01.48 | petn-randall | at0m: Firewire *can* provide Ethernet, just as USB can. But the inversion is not true: Not all Firewire devices provide Ethernet. |
| 13:01.59 | petn-randall | s/:/;/ |
| 13:02.09 | mcnesium | babilen: can you be more specific about this? i run this box for half a year now and its annoying to do apt-get upgrade pretty much every day |
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| 13:02.38 | at0m | petn-randall: ah ok. just that when i insert the card, eth goes foobar. assumed that was ethX numbering issue |
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| 13:02.46 | petn-randall | mcnesium: If you don't want to test our pre-release version, you should be using stable instead. |
| 13:02.47 | at0m | tried a bunch of auto ethX and iface ethX inet dhcp lines in interfaces, with X [1-4], but no joy bringing one up |
| 13:03.52 | petn-randall | at0m: I think that's a different problem unrelated to Firewire or a renumbering issue. |
| 13:04.13 | babilen | mcnesium: No, i can't be more specific about it as I cannot predict what the future will bring. But upgrades aren't always possible (due to transitions for example) |
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| 13:04.48 | mcnesium | petn-randall: i switched from ubuntu to have a rolling release distribution and i found that debian stable has pretty old package versions most of the time, so i went to use testing to be more up-to-date |
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| 13:05.48 | petn-randall | mcnesium: testing *isn't* a rolling release. It's a pre-release version of our next stable. Yes, it might be old, but it's also well-tested (meaning that it will have less bugs than most Ubuntu releases). |
| 13:05.58 | at0m | mcnesium: just. review. depends. and. broken. before upgrading |
| 13:06.19 | mcnesium | at0m: what? |
| 13:06.34 | at0m | mcnesium: don't unattended upgrade |
| 13:07.07 | at0m | review all changes apt wants to apply and correct manually |
| 13:07.08 | mcnesium | ok i did understand that, but i cant figure what would actually be supposed to happen |
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| 13:08.17 | petn-randall | mcnesium: just one example: a newer version of a library migrates to testing. All the current packages aren't built against it. unattended-upgrades will happily install the new library, removing *all* the other packages depending on the old library version. |
| 13:08.23 | at0m | currently, for example, testing is migrating to kf5 and much of kde is in transit and broken. when running testing, deal with it |
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| 13:09.31 | at0m | and, irc://irc.oftc.net/debian-next |
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| 13:09.57 | mcnesium | this is a home server instance, so no kde |
| 13:10.16 | at0m | was just giving one example. petn-randall gave another. |
| 13:10.55 | mcnesium | ok so youre saying that i should rather go with stable release if i dont want to hassle with manual upgrades |
| 13:11.01 | at0m | yup |
| 13:11.19 | mcnesium | until now i have always just installed whatever wanted to be installed |
| 13:11.21 | at0m | i gladly made that compromise to manually review all updates |
| 13:11.22 | mcnesium | *upgraded |
| 13:11.51 | at0m | mcnesium: that works fine until it doesn't. then you're supposed to know how to fix it. |
| 13:11.58 | mcnesium | can i "downgrade" easily? |
| 13:11.59 | at0m | hence, not 'stable' |
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| 13:12.37 | at0m | if you got the previous .deb's in /var/cache/apt/archives/ maybe. haven't had to deal with that. |
| 13:12.54 | at0m | remove the new ones, install the old |
| 13:12.56 | petn-randall | mcnesium: Downgrading is not supported, and can break your system in a few cases. Also some things like iceweasel/icedove upgrade user config files, which can't be downgraded again. |
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| 13:13.32 | CharlotteFields | mksquashfs chroot binary/live/filesystem.squashfs -comp xz -e boot im getting fail to read errors, source: https://l3net.wordpress.com/2013/09/21/how-to-build-a-debian-livecd/ |
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| 13:14.17 | mcnesium | so there is no automatism implemented in apt |
| 13:14.41 | at0m | oh yes, you did that, removing your packages :D |
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| 13:15.53 | mcnesium | well, my shot would be to change all the "testing" to "stable" in /etc/apt/… and then run apt-get update |
| 13:16.10 | petn-randall | !downgrade |
| 13:16.11 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 13:16.46 | petn-randall | mcnesium: You could try downgrading, see <partial downgrade>, but chances are you need to reinstall. |
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| 13:17.46 | babilen | A downgrade to stable from testing is almost certainly not possible anymore |
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| 13:18.05 | babilen | (by pinning stable to >= 1001) |
| 13:18.36 | babilen | mcnesium: Is it *really* that horrible to keep your system up-to-date ? |
| 13:18.46 | mcnesium | ok so the only way to go is remove unattended-upgrades and do manual upgrades |
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| 13:19.30 | babilen | yeah, also read <sid faq> and remember that testing and unstable are supported in #debian-next on irc.debian.org (aka irc.oftc.net) |
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| 13:19.34 | at0m | mcnesium: next time, if you want to run testing, yes. |
| 13:19.50 | mcnesium | babilen: its not *really* that horrible, but as i said, all i do is say "yea whatever, do it" so this could be done automatically imho |
| 13:20.32 | babilen | Well, read the sid faq, install the tools mentioned therein (listbug for example) and make informed decisions |
| 13:20.51 | babilen | A "yeah, whatever, do it" approach will, eventually, cause you pain |
| 13:20.55 | mcnesium | actually i could have used stable as well because packages that really matter to me are loaded from other repositories anyways |
| 13:21.08 | babilen | oh, mixing of third-party repos .. |
| 13:21.13 | mcnesium | right |
| 13:21.19 | at0m | oh; on top! :D |
| 13:21.20 | mcnesium | bitlbee for example |
| 13:21.22 | mcnesium | or owncloud |
| 13:21.58 | babilen | Why on earth would you use a third-party repo for bitlbee? |
| 13:22.17 | at0m | mcnesium: then you're supposed to know howto fix. see you on oftc. |
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| 13:22.46 | mcnesium | babilen: because even "testing" is like two years behind the version number |
| 13:22.54 | babilen | judd: v bitlbee |
| 13:22.56 | judd | Package: bitlbee on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.2.8-1; squeeze-backports: 3.0.5-1.2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 3.0.5-1.2; jessie: 3.2.2-2+b1; stretch: 3.2.2-2+b1; sid: 3.4.1-1 |
| 13:23.07 | babilen | Pull it from unstable or wait for it to migrate |
| 13:23.49 | babilen | (it is IMHO not a good idea to track testing without unstable in your sources anyway, as the package manager will have problems resolving dependencies at times and you will want to pull in packages from there every now and then) |
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| 13:24.24 | mcnesium | how would I do that? |
| 13:24.28 | babilen | A setup that is detailed in, for example, <tum> |
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| 13:24.54 | babilen | But please join #debian-next, this is really getting quite off-topic for this channel :) |
| 13:25.00 | at0m | ,v owncloud |
| 13:25.01 | judd | Package: owncloud on amd64 -- jessie: 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u1; jessie-security: 7.0.4+dfsg-4~deb8u1; stretch: 7.0.7~dfsg-1; sid: 7.0.7~dfsg-1 |
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| 13:26.17 | mcnesium | we're on 8.1 now :) |
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| 13:26.34 | at0m | yes and you're borken. |
| 13:27.02 | at0m | :) |
| 13:27.07 | mcnesium | not yet |
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| 13:28.06 | mcnesium | ok i obviously misunderstood how "testing" is meant, but now as i am stuck with it, i have to do manual upgrades |
| 13:28.45 | mcnesium | what if i change testing to stretch in the sources? once stretch gets stable, i can then go ahead and change it back to stable easily, right? |
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| 13:32.16 | CharlotteFields | woo fixed it `umount -l /proc /sys /dev/pts` |
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| 13:32.36 | tombee | Hey folks -- little bit stuck here trying to get Debian on a Dell XPS 13 (that doesn't have an ethernet adapter) and the wireless card requires a non-free driver. |
| 13:32.53 | tombee | I don't have access to a USB ethernet adapter at the moment either |
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| 13:33.10 | jelly | tombee: are you in the installer? |
| 13:33.13 | tombee | jelly: yeah |
| 13:33.24 | jelly | if you're willing to start anew, |
| 13:33.27 | jelly | !firmware images |
| 13:33.27 | dpkg | Unofficial <netinst> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for installing Debian 8 "Jessie" are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ . See also <install guide>. |
| 13:33.34 | jelly | tombee: use that ^^ |
| 13:33.43 | tombee | jelly: I grabbed the 8.1.0-live/non-free image, and I'm in the installer there. |
| 13:33.54 | jelly | dunno about live. |
| 13:34.03 | tombee | But yeah, this looks good -- will take a look :) |
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| 13:34.28 | CharlotteFields | tombee, could also try one of the cd/dvd images here https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ |
| 13:34.37 | CharlotteFields | upto about 4.5gb~ |
| 13:35.57 | jelly | CharlotteFields: none of those will contain non-free firmware |
| 13:36.44 | CharlotteFields | ah woops |
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| 13:36.53 | tombee | Yeah, I was just looking -- in case I'd missed something. |
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| 13:37.24 | tombee | jelly: I'm following this guide, there are a list of packages here: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Dell/Dell%20XPS%2013%209343 |
| 13:37.31 | tombee | should these be in the firmware-8.1.0 image? |
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| 13:38.44 | jelly | tombee: oh... dkms and build-essential? Nope, sorry |
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| 13:43.08 | tombee | jelly: yeah, hmm.. doesn't seem to be detecting the broadcom-sta-dkms driver :( |
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| 13:44.12 | jelly | tombee: "dkms" part means "this is actually just the source of the driver, it needs build tools and kernel headers to be compiled to work" |
| 13:44.29 | tombee | ah right |
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| 13:44.58 | droopy | I added to my path in .bashrc but when I try 'echo $PATH', the edit is not present |
| 13:45.24 | droopy | what's wrong with 'export PATH=$HOME/drush:$PATH'? |
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| 13:48.35 | jelly | droopy: probably needs to be put in .bash_profile instead, if you're using bash as a login shell. man bash, read the INVOCATION section |
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| 13:50.14 | tombee | jelly: is there any easy way of getting those packages on to the laptop if I just continue with the base install? |
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| 13:51.45 | jelly | hmm. |
| 13:51.48 | jelly | !apt-zip |
| 13:51.48 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
| 13:51.50 | jelly | maybe |
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| 13:54.29 | uio | Hello - I've been trying to install a .deb package by su dpkg -i file.deb with no sucess. I'm told that '-i' is not a valid option.... any ideas ? |
| 13:54.42 | Phil-Work | sudo |
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| 13:55.58 | petn-randall | uio: That's not how you use su, check the man page. |
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| 13:59.16 | Dinduks | Hi. I use nm-applet to configure my connections, but when I use "Configure VPN", I don't have a VPN tab. Am I missing some package? |
| 13:59.38 | babilen | uio: You are probably looking for sudo as, I'm sure, Phil-Work meant to tell you |
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| 14:00.11 | babilen | Dinduks: You might be missing a package, yeah. (e.g. network-manager-SOMETHING-*vpn) |
| 14:00.30 | uio | babilen: petn-randall ... thanks, yes I was using su as sudo... I think've got that part now, but cannot find how to get the correct file path. |
| 14:00.53 | babilen | uio: Correct path to what exactly? |
| 14:01.24 | uio | babilen: I have a file on a usb that I would like to install, but I cannot get the file path right for the dpkg command.... |
| 14:01.42 | babilen | uio: What is the absolute path of the file? |
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| 14:02.25 | FourFire | Hi, what's the most bleeding edge debian variant Distro at the moment, in terms of kernel version? |
| 14:02.41 | centrx | Debian sid? |
| 14:03.00 | FourFire | will it break everything? |
| 14:03.15 | babilen | Not quite everything, no |
| 14:03.19 | r6ku | probably |
| 14:03.21 | babilen | (but most of it) |
| 14:03.28 | uio | babilen: hmmm... I think there was something wrong with the package.... trying again.... |
| 14:03.37 | FourFire | or is there something between *buntu 15.04 and SID in terms of updated kernel-ness ? |
| 14:03.43 | babilen | The GCC transition is going on, so I wouldn't expect anything to work in unstable atm |
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| 14:03.53 | centrx | FourFire, Debian testing |
| 14:03.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell FourFire -about bdo kernel |
| 14:03.59 | centrx | backports, yeah |
| 14:04.02 | centrx | bpo |
| 14:04.27 | babilen | dpkg: bdo |
| 14:04.27 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 14:04.29 | centrx | I guess bdo works too |
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| 14:04.53 | FourFire | babilen, GCC transition ? |
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| 14:05.25 | babilen | FourFire: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/08/msg00002.html + https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/libstdc++6.html |
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| 14:06.13 | CharlotteFields | trying to make a live iso, got this issue upon boot about missing end text in isolinux.conf, this is my config http://termbin.com/ukun |
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| 14:08.31 | FourFire | babilen, your bot cuts off halfway through the thrid line |
| 14:08.46 | Pinchiukas | For some reason Cinnamon is not applying theme changes to window decorations, can anybody help me with that? |
| 14:09.42 | babilen | FourFire: Which factoid? |
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| 14:10.56 | FourFire | > To list available backported kernel image packages: «aptitude search '?narrow(~nlinux-image,?origin(Debian Backpor |
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| 14:11.39 | babilen | FourFire: "/msg dpkg bdo kernel" |
| 14:11.55 | babilen | (that way you don't get the "babilen wants you to know ..." start bit) |
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| 14:13.11 | vecciora | How could I flush client's DNS cache? |
| 14:13.26 | FourFire | thanks for your help |
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| 14:13.59 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: It's to my understanding that debian default install doesn't keep a dns cache unless it's installed |
| 14:14.15 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: But i could be wrong |
| 14:14.43 | vecciora | Skyekk22: So then the my provider's censorship doesn't come from DNS. |
| 14:15.21 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: O-o Not sure what you mean by that |
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| 14:17.25 | ChrisH | I am seeing problems using kid3 on FS mounted via SMB. kid3 simply stop working while writing, process in stuck in state D in ps. tar cvf /dev/null . in that mountpoint still works. Any ideas on how to continue troubleshooting? Both sides on jessie. |
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| 14:18.14 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: have you tried using google's DNS servers? If that doesn't help, then you may want to try a vpn |
| 14:18.59 | Skyekk22 | okay guys, so i'm really confused. I installed openvpn, but the easyrsa directory isn't in /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples |
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| 14:21.22 | vecciora | Skyekk22: Yes I have. Using Google's DNS doesn't work. |
| 14:22.10 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: Yep, then it's time to use a vpn |
| 14:22.33 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: Just rent a vps server and setup openvpn on it |
| 14:22.43 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: and make sure to use resolvconf on your client |
| 14:22.53 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: that will take care of any dns issues |
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| 14:23.18 | Brigo | vecciora, try namebench ( a program) |
| 14:23.45 | Dinduks | babilen: I installed all the vpn related packages. Do I need to restart something? In only restarted the applet. |
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| 14:23.53 | vecciora | Okay. I've read your posts. |
| 14:24.20 | babilen | Dinduks: A "systemctl restart NetworkManager.service" might be necessary |
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| 14:24.51 | vecciora | Skyekk22: That sounds complicated and requires money. |
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| 14:25.14 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: Yes, you don't have a choice unless you plan on hacking into a socks or vps |
| 14:25.31 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: It's the only way to completely bypass your ISP |
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| 14:25.56 | Skyekk22 | vecciora: and it wouldn't cost more than $10 USD |
| 14:26.48 | vecciora | Sorry if this becoming OT. I just want to ask about clearing DNS cache initially. |
| 14:26.49 | Skyekk22 | Okay guys, so i've resolved the mystery. If you're using jessie and above, easy-rsa is now located in /usr/share/doc/easy-rsa/ rather than /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa/2.0/ |
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| 14:31.38 | Dinduks | babilen: I don't even have this service |
| 14:31.45 | Dinduks | babilen: What could it mean? |
| 14:32.31 | Guest37680 | Is anyone using java on jessie? |
| 14:33.03 | babilen | Dinduks: What does "dpkg -l network-manager|tail -n1" give you? |
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| 14:33.47 | babilen | Dinduks: And why do you think that you don't have that service? |
| 14:33.53 | babilen | Guest37680: Be the first! |
| 14:34.04 | babilen | (although I'm sure that plenty of people are) |
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| 14:34.38 | Dinduks | babilen: it says "ii network-manager" |
| 14:34.48 | Dinduks | babilen: I don't have the service: Unknown operation 'NetworkManager.service'. |
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| 14:36.05 | babilen | Dinduks: Did you run "systemctl NetworkManager.service restart" rather than "systemctl restart NetworkManager.service" ? Could you paste your *exact* command and its output to http://paste.debian.net and give us the URL? |
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| 14:36.50 | babilen | I'm also sure that "ii network-manager" isn't the entire output. Feel free to include that as well. |
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| 14:38.00 | Dinduks | babilen: yes I swapped the arguments. I restarted the service, but I still have the same problem. |
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| 14:38.28 | Dinduks | babilen: Yes it's not the whole input. Other info are version, architecture and description, I thought they are irrelevant. |
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| 14:40.17 | Dinduks | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/290068/ |
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| 14:40.34 | babilen | Dinduks: Okay, run "COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l 'network-manger*'" and paste that |
| 14:41.04 | babilen | Oh, are you tracking testing or unstable? |
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| 14:41.37 | Dinduks | babilen: stretch |
| 14:41.58 | babilen | That is supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (see /topic) |
| 14:42.13 | Dinduks | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/290072/ |
| 14:42.40 | babilen | Neither network-manager-openvpn-gnome nor network-manager-vpnc-gnome are installed |
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| 14:43.41 | tombee | jelly: hurray -- found a usb wifi adapter lying around that I was able to load the ath6k module for |
| 14:43.42 | tombee | :D |
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| 14:44.15 | jelly | !win tombee |
| 14:44.16 | dpkg | Congratulations, tombee! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
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| 14:44.26 | tombee | Mmmm spam. |
| 14:44.41 | Dinduks | babilen: excellent, that works. I should have paid attention to the descriptions. Thank you vm. ) |
| 14:44.59 | dashs | What is the user id "sys" used for? |
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| 14:46.38 | jelly | dashs: https://wiki.debian.org/SystemGroups says "maintained for historic reasons" |
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| 14:47.00 | dashs | Thanks j |
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| 14:47.22 | themill | (also /usr/share/doc/base-passwd/users-and-groups.txt.gz) |
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| 14:48.51 | zln | the uuid's for drives on the system. Are they created or hardcoded in the block drives? |
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| 14:51.46 | uio | Hello, I am looking to boot a powerpc in command line only--- is there a release for that, or is there just the ppc one with the gui ? |
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| 14:52.29 | Brigo | uio, install just the base system. |
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| 14:55.01 | jelly | zln: UUIDs are actually a property of created filesystems, not disks or partition devices. |
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| 14:55.41 | jelly | zln: disks may have serial numbers, or WWNs instead. |
| 14:56.09 | jelly | zln: compare the contents of /dev/disk/by-uuid/ and /dev/disk/by-id/ |
| 14:57.09 | zln | jelly: nice :) so the uuids are created when a partition is formatted with a filesystem? |
| 14:57.26 | jelly | yes |
| 14:57.42 | zln | thnx |
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| 14:58.18 | jelly | zln: with some filesystem creation tools you can even ask for a specific uuid, eg. mkswap has -U / --uuid |
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| 15:00.55 | Brigo | jelly, so if you create a new filesystem you will get a new uuid, right? |
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| 15:05.19 | jelly | Brigo: yes |
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| 15:06.13 | jelly | so if you're replacing one filesystem present in /etc/fstab with another, and you're using UUIDs in fstab... fun |
| 15:06.20 | Brigo | now i undestand those complains about uuids problems intalling jessie |
| 15:06.37 | Brigo | jelly, right that, yes :) |
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| 15:07.40 | jelly | just remember to update your fstab. And maybe /etc/default/grub. And maybe /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume. And maybe update initramfs. And... |
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| 15:11.47 | Brigo | jelly, just understand why the uuid changed helps a lot :D |
| 15:12.48 | XeonSquared | https://gist.github.com/XeonSquared/d1b099607777758fd300 :3 |
| 15:13.24 | qman__ | You can also manually set the uuid of the filesystem, just be careful to never use the same uuid twice if they could ever both plug into the same system |
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| 15:14.04 | qman__ | I.e. setting the uuid is fine in a restore situation, but don't do it in a clone/copy situation |
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| 15:19.01 | shay_shay | mbox format ftl |
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| 15:19.42 | jhutchins | Mildly OT: Recommendations for hosting? |
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| 15:26.12 | shay_shay | ,checkbackport linux-image-4.0.0-2-amd64 |
| 15:26.13 | judd | Backporting package linux-image-4.0.0-2-amd64 in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, archignore. |
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| 15:27.19 | shay_shay | in this case it's okay to just install from testing? |
| 15:27.36 | shay_shay | I was waiting for a backport for some hardware issues |
| 15:27.50 | shay_shay | but I suppose I could be waiting for a long time |
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| 15:29.50 | Brigo | shay_shay, you can try the kernel does not depends on anything, if any problem remove it. |
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| 15:34.47 | uio | Hello all. Well, I think that I 'shredded' my 'local' folder and now I cannot boot : 'uknown or corrupt filesystem'. The machine is an iBook G3 powerpc. Anythought on what to do ? |
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| 15:36.25 | greycat | If you actually destroyed the data on one of your partitions (I think that's what you mean by "local folder") then reinstall. |
| 15:36.49 | uio | greycat: Yeah - I guess that really is my only option... |
| 15:37.02 | greycat | It might help if you clarify exactly what you did. |
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| 15:38.14 | uio | greycat: I typed # shred..... and selected the wrong folder ( I remember seeing 'local') the screen froze and I had to hard poweroff. Now reboot won't work... nor will other usb's to try to reinstall. |
| 15:38.56 | greycat | ,info shred |
| 15:38.57 | judd | No package named 'shred' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 15:39.15 | greycat | My god, this thing is in *coreutils*?! |
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| 15:39.33 | RDash | greycat, yes they broke it |
| 15:39.33 | jhutchins | uio: Restore your backup. |
| 15:39.43 | jhutchins | uio: Since you probably don't have a backup, rebuild. |
| 15:39.45 | NoImNotNineVolt | rms takes privacy very seriously, it seems. |
| 15:39.50 | droopy | How do I download PHP 5.2.17 on Debian 6.0.7 |
| 15:39.51 | jhutchins | uio: shred is intended to be unrecoverable. |
| 15:39.57 | uio | jhutchins: How does one rebuild ? |
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| 15:40.01 | droopy | apt-cache policy apache2 only shows 5.3.3 |
| 15:40.10 | jhutchins | uio: Download an installer image. |
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| 15:40.53 | greycat | Typing shred with no arguments does not give me a selection menu. It gives me an error. |
| 15:40.58 | uio | jhutchins: I mean, no worries if I lose the data - I was actually trying to destroy it all. |
| 15:41.35 | srg | Hi. I'm wondering about PAM. I know it has something to do with auth (Pluggable Auth Modules?), but I don't think I've ever touched it in my years of running linux on home systems. I read somewhere that there was a vuln with PAM and openssh - Is it ok to set UsePam to "no" in openssh? |
| 15:42.10 | greycat | srg: if you never intend to login through ssh with a password. |
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| 15:42.55 | srg | greycat: I currently require both public key and the unix account password to log in. So I need PAM? |
| 15:43.02 | greycat | yes |
| 15:43.06 | srg | ok. Thanks! |
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| 15:44.50 | droopy | How do I install a .tar.gz of PHP 5.2.17 |
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| 15:45.59 | NoImNotNineVolt | a .tar.gz is a compressed archive, not something that can be installed per se. |
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| 15:46.25 | sivik | Anyone ever get an ldm partition mounted in linux? |
| 15:46.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | you can extract it. after that, you can look through the contents for instructions on what to do next. |
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| 15:47.04 | droopy | NoImNotNineVolt: How do install PHP without apt-get or yum install doing the work for me? All I have is a .tar.gz to go on |
| 15:47.08 | at0m | dpkg: tell sivik about anyone |
| 15:47.16 | droopy | Wish they told me in skewl |
| 15:47.23 | greycat | droopy: extract the tarball, cd into it, type "ls", look for a file that might be instructions like README or INSTALL |
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| 15:47.48 | greycat | If you downloaded PHP source code, you will probably have to compile it. |
| 15:47.48 | droopy | greycat: ty |
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| 15:50.48 | sivik | when attempting to mount a gpt partition, I get the error failed to mount 'dev/sdd1': invalid argument. I have pasted the error and the output of sfdisk to this link: http://pastebin.com/Sjek07q8 |
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| 15:51.10 | jhutchins | srg: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
| 15:51.36 | greycat | sivik: what makes you think the disk has an NTFS partition on it? |
| 15:52.18 | jhutchins | srg: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/User-Authentication-HOWTO/x115.html |
| 15:52.34 | sivik | greycat: its ldm not ntfs but I am not seeing a way to mount ldm though the mount command |
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| 15:53.19 | greycat | reads "/msg dpkg ldm" |
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| 15:54.10 | greycat | If it's really an Evil-Empire version of LVM, then you need to figure out how to make the logical volumes within it available as devices, THEN mount the file systems on those. |
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| 15:54.52 | greycat | ,info ldmtool |
| 15:54.53 | judd | Package ldmtool (otherosfs, extra) in jessie/amd64: tool for managing Microsoft Windows dynamic disks. Version: 0.2.3-3; Size: 12.6k; Installed: 69k; Homepage: https://github.com/mdbooth/libldm |
| 15:55.17 | jhutchins | sivik: Have you tried specifying -t auto? (That's the default if you don't specify -t) |
| 15:55.55 | greycat | I don't think he has mountable file systems yet. |
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| 15:56.29 | sivik | -t auto says you must specify the file system type |
| 15:56.35 | jhutchins | greycat: You're probably right. ldm is one of the reasons I don't trust lvm. |
| 15:56.52 | sivik | ok got ldmtool installed and I do have a valid partition |
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| 15:59.24 | RoyK | Is kernel 4.x likely to get into jessie? |
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| 16:01.42 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 16:01.43 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3); experimental: 4.1.0-trunk-686-pae (4.1.2-1~exp1) |
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| 16:02.47 | greycat | No new kernels will ever go "into jessie". But one might be backported eventually. |
| 16:03.01 | jhutchins | RoyK: The fact that it's in sid means it's probably headed for testing/stretch, which means it could eventually be backported to jessie. |
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| 16:04.15 | RoyK | a backport would be nice - hot-patching kernels FTW :D |
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| 16:08.37 | jhutchins | RoyK: What does it have that you need? |
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| 16:15.10 | kolombo | I have resolution problem with Iceweasel on debian jessie with my high DPI screen. is there anybody using debian testing with a hidpi display? |
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| 16:17.21 | greycat | jessie is not testing |
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| 16:18.43 | kolombo | I know |
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| 16:21.13 | jhutchins | kolombo: You may find more testing/stretch users in #debian-next on oftc.net |
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| 16:22.29 | kolombo | thank you jhutchins |
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| 16:27.47 | shay_shay | :O |
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| 16:37.42 | RoyK | jhutchins: just curious about the kernel update without reboot stuff. I won't use sid packages in a stable system... |
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| 16:41.26 | vecciora | I connected my PC to TV using HDMI cable. |
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| 16:41.54 | domovoy | i'm having troubles with nfs. reading is alright, but writing is extremely slow. Basically, when i transfer a file to the server, the first 150Mo are transferred at full speed, then it slows down to something like 3Kb/s, and from time to time goes up to full speed again for a few seconds. Since recently, it seems to completely stop after the first 150Mo. config: http://pastebin.com/MexV442h any idea about what is happening? |
| 16:41.57 | petn-randall | jhutchins: Regarding hosting, I can recommend Hetzner if you're budget-conscious. |
| 16:41.58 | jelly | vecciora: good! |
| 16:42.06 | STMelon | o/ jelly |
| 16:42.13 | vecciora | In Windows if I unplug the speaker, the sound will come from my TV. |
| 16:42.31 | vecciora | But in Debian, there is no sound from my TV. |
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| 16:43.03 | jelly | vecciora: in Linux, you probably have to use "pavucontrol" to explicitely point an application's audio output to HDMI |
| 16:43.19 | petn-randall | domovoy: What is this output from? Are you moving lots of files? Is there storage on the NFS server fast? |
| 16:43.20 | jelly | and might have to do some other stuff before it works |
| 16:45.36 | domovoy | petn-randall: only one file, of about 300Mo. The storage on the server is a raid5 array containing 6 disks |
| 16:45.38 | droopy | How do I install PHP from the source |
| 16:45.44 | droopy | I have a .tar.gz |
| 16:46.05 | greycat | Compile it, following the instructions in the documentation inside the tarball. |
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| 16:46.41 | vecciora | jelly Have tried to use pavucontrol. Still no sound. :/ |
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| 16:47.40 | Circuitsoft | Hello. On a new Jessie install, the system-wide locale does not appear to be applied to the user. How do I fix this? |
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| 16:48.45 | greycat | Circuitsoft: log out and back in |
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| 16:48.56 | Circuitsoft | Nope. Reboot didn't do it. |
| 16:49.08 | Circuitsoft | I even tried deleting and recreating the user, and it still wasn't applied. |
| 16:49.34 | Circuitsoft | system-wide locale is en_US.UTF-8. User locale is C |
| 16:49.48 | vecciora | jelly: Yes. Now it works. |
| 16:49.50 | greycat | How did you set this "system-wide locale"? |
| 16:49.58 | vecciora | jelly: Horaaay. Thank you. |
| 16:50.12 | Circuitsoft | dpkg-reconfigure locale |
| 16:50.17 | Circuitsoft | *locales |
| 16:51.47 | droopy | greycat: I extracted the tarball, but there's like 14 readmes |
| 16:52.09 | domovoy | weird, i don't know if it is related in any way, but i just ran rpcinfo on the nfs server, and the copy just finished at full speed... |
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| 16:52.58 | domovoy | well.. almost, it stopped again 3Mo from the end... |
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| 16:55.31 | petn-randall | domovoy: With 'Mo' do you mean million or MB? |
| 16:55.48 | domovoy | petn-randall: no, MB |
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| 16:56.03 | domovoy | sorry |
| 16:56.19 | petn-randall | domovoy: If you run 'atop' on the server, do you see a bottleneck on the disks? |
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| 16:56.42 | Circuitsoft | greycat: Desktop is Gnome3 if that has any bearing on this issue. |
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| 16:57.00 | Circuitsoft | The root issue being that gnome-terminal won't open if LANG=C |
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| 16:57.27 | domovoy | petn-randall: can't do that right now, the server is not connected to wan and atop is not installed |
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| 16:58.05 | greycat | Circuitsoft: what does /etc/default/locale contain? |
| 16:58.22 | Circuitsoft | LANG=en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 16:59.12 | RoyK | anyone tried to setup webdav so it'd be usable for win7 clients? testing out it works well from mac and linux, but the server's just giving the win7 client a 405 |
| 16:59.38 | Pinchiukas | For some reason Cinnamon is not applying theme changes to window decorations, can anybody help me with that? |
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| 17:01.05 | domovoy | maybe i should try without the openwrt between the client and server, could it be a routing/firewall issue (i did nothing weird on openwrt config)? |
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| 17:02.41 | domovoy | my setup is: client <- wifi -> openwrt (wrt 610n) <- cable -> server |
| 17:02.41 | petn-randall | domovoy: Ok then, we can't really debug the issue if you don't have access to the machine. |
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| 17:03.28 | domovoy | petn-randall: i do have access to the machine, it's sitting next to me, but it don't have wan connection (i get internet from my phone on my laptop) |
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| 17:06.22 | domovoy | i'm currently in the process of making my openwrt able to use the phone, so that all my computers can have access to wan. it's just not done yet |
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| 17:08.48 | petn-randall | domovoy: You're using NFS via UDP. That is a lot less reliable over Wifi than TCP. |
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| 17:13.12 | vecciora | I wonder why there is no volume control of HDMI device in alsamixer. I could mute the sound, but I couldn't control the volume. I could however by using KMix (KDE's volume control). |
| 17:14.02 | Circuitsoft | vecciora: Since HDMI has no analog component, there's no way to do volume control at the device level. |
| 17:14.16 | Circuitsoft | Volume Control by Kmix is done in whatever sound server is in use, probably PulseAudio. |
| 17:14.24 | Circuitsoft | Try pavucontrol |
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| 17:15.52 | vecciora | Circuitsoft: Yeah. I could control the volume by using pavucontrol too. Thank you for your explanation. Somewhat I understand. |
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| 17:25.54 | wallbroken | i get permission denied while accessing a directory |
| 17:26.10 | wallbroken | i tried with chmod -R 777 dir/ |
| 17:26.13 | wallbroken | but no changes |
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| 17:26.51 | jpalmer | wallbroken: chmod 777 is almost never the right answer :) |
| 17:27.05 | abrotman | s/almost// |
| 17:27.08 | wallbroken | what i need to do? |
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| 17:27.22 | greycat | wallbroken: put it BACK the way it was, then find out what the actual problem is, and fix that. |
| 17:27.39 | greycat | My god, he did it recursively. |
| 17:27.49 | abrotman | wallbroken: what was "dir/" in this case? |
| 17:27.53 | jpalmer | abrotman: I'll stick with almost, for instance, /tmp would suck without 1777 :) |
| 17:28.00 | greycat | 777 != 1777 |
| 17:28.02 | wallbroken | the dir i want to access |
| 17:28.05 | abrotman | jpalmer: but that's not 777 |
| 17:28.08 | greycat | wallbroken: what is its NAME |
| 17:28.10 | abrotman | wallbroken: which is?! |
| 17:28.13 | jpalmer | alright, fiar point. |
| 17:28.16 | wallbroken | actuallly the permission are: drwxrwx--- |
| 17:28.17 | jpalmer | fair* |
| 17:28.21 | abrotman | we're not asking you to be nosy, we're asking you because it's important |
| 17:28.31 | abrotman | potentially |
| 17:28.32 | wallbroken | /media/sf_vm |
| 17:28.35 | petn-randall | chmod wallbroken |
| 17:28.43 | petn-randall | !chmod wallbroken |
| 17:28.44 | dpkg | changes wallbroken's permissions to 0777 and tells the world. |
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| 17:29.06 | wallbroken | [19:26] <wallbroken> i tried with chmod -R 777 dir/ |
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| 17:29.39 | greycat | If you did a chmod 777 /media/sf_vm and its current permissions are 770 then there is definitely something *not normal* about this file system. |
| 17:29.49 | jpalmer | wallbroken: what are the perms on /media, and /media/sf_vm? |
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| 17:30.12 | petn-randall | If it's a VM share, it's probably read-only from the host side. |
| 17:30.13 | greycat | And which of them is a mount point, and what's mounted on it? |
| 17:30.48 | wallbroken | drwxrwx--- 1 root vboxsf 0 ago 7 19:09 sf_vm |
| 17:31.25 | wallbroken | drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 ago 7 19:11 media |
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| 17:31.42 | wallbroken | maybe do i need to add claudio to vboxsf group |
| 17:31.44 | greycat | Looks like /media/sf_vm is the mount point. |
| 17:31.48 | wallbroken | claudio is my user |
| 17:32.17 | petn-randall | wallbroken: Can you show us the output of 'mount'? |
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| 17:34.16 | wallbroken | http://sprunge.us/gXFc |
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| 17:35.07 | sh00p | you should probably check out your virtualbox configuration |
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| 17:35.34 | petn-randall | wallbroken: Check in Virtualbox on the host that the shared folder is shared as writeable. |
| 17:35.35 | sh00p | or put your own user in group vboxsf |
| 17:35.56 | sh00p | might be the way to go actually |
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| 17:36.20 | wallbroken | yes |
| 17:36.30 | wallbroken | but, as i said, is only a user problem |
| 17:36.34 | wallbroken | with root user, no problem |
| 17:37.04 | sh00p | then add your user to vboxsf group |
| 17:37.23 | wallbroken | how to do it? |
| 17:37.42 | petn-randall | wallbroken: adduser <youruser> vboxsf |
| 17:37.49 | petn-randall | wallbroken: Then log out and in again. |
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| 17:38.44 | wallbroken | ok now it's ok |
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| 17:39.42 | petn-randall | wallbroken: yay \o/ |
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| 17:39.46 | wallbroken | but i have another prolbem with pulse audio |
| 17:39.48 | wallbroken | 09818878] pulse audio output error: PulseAudio server connection failure: Connection refused |
| 17:40.09 | petn-randall | wallbroken: Where does that error come from? |
| 17:40.26 | wallbroken | vlc file.mpg in the terminal |
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| 18:21.25 | Cecil | Anyone experience with shared folders in VirtualBox? |
| 18:21.46 | Cecil | gets an headache trying to umount a shared folder. |
| 18:21.57 | Netsca | How do I get the latest version of iceweasel? |
| 18:22.15 | greycat | What's wrong with the version you have now? |
| 18:22.27 | mezo | hey, maybe someone here can help me with my problem, i posted on the nvidia forum: https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/863486/linux/jerky-gnome-on-debian-only-with-nvidia-driver-/ |
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| 18:22.44 | Netsca | I want a newer version |
| 18:22.52 | Netsca | Thats the only problem |
| 18:22.52 | greycat | !sns |
| 18:22.53 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 18:23.24 | Netsca | I'm on testing |
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| 18:24.02 | Netsca | and when i tried it from the mozilla.debian.net repo it said it needed a newer dependancy than what was on testing |
| 18:24.05 | phy1729 | greycat: there is a firefox vuln that came out yesterday but I'd think security already got that |
| 18:24.25 | greycat | You get security fixes MUCH more quickly on stable than you do on testing. |
| 18:24.51 | Netsca | Yeah it had do with the built in pdf viewer on firefox i disable that and use zathura anyway |
| 18:25.11 | x86iac | wants greycat to pounce on cecil |
| 18:25.32 | Netsca | Well i'm not to worried about security I just want the non esr version of iceweasel |
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| 18:26.00 | x86iac | Netsca: check out seamonkey |
| 18:26.23 | greycat | x86iac: http://is.gd/1Bs8Jm |
| 18:26.23 | Netsca | I have i prefer firefox/iceweasel to it |
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| 18:27.12 | Circuitsoft | Netsca: What do you mean by non-esr? |
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| 18:27.24 | x86iac | curl: (7) Failed to connect to is.gd port 80: Connection refused |
| 18:27.28 | Netsca | Non extended support release |
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| 18:27.31 | greycat | ESR is Firefox's own "stable" browser release. |
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| 18:28.08 | greycat | In this case they mean "no new features for like... 3 months!" instead of Debian's release cycle of ~2 years. |
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| 18:28.39 | greycat | Iceweasel in Debian stable is forked from Firefox ESR, I believe. |
| 18:28.58 | Netsca | But they have iceweasel 39 in experimental repo |
| 18:29.05 | Circuitsoft | Netsca: http://superuser.com/questions/322376/how-to-install-the-real-firefox-on-debian - The second (not accepted) answer looks best to me. |
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| 18:29.50 | Netsca | But that requires a newer version of lib something than whats on testing |
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| 18:30.38 | greycat | Bullshit. You can run upstream vanilla Firefox on Debian stable. |
| 18:30.52 | greycat | I do it all the time. |
| 18:30.53 | neoncortex | where i can see the last uodated packages from stable? |
| 18:31.07 | greycat | neoncortex: http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 18:32.44 | x86iac | firefox/iceweasel phone home when started |
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| 18:33.18 | x86iac | that to me is a real security issue |
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| 18:33.57 | crpentr9000 | greycat is a stupid b i t c h |
| 18:34.17 | greycat | He should fix his space bar. |
| 18:34.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | r e s p e c t. |
| 18:35.06 | x86iac | r e s p e c t . |
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| 18:36.12 | x86iac | no one has ever called him stupid before ... ;) |
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| 18:36.41 | greycat | I'm sure that's not true. |
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| 18:39.40 | duggles | given suphp isn't in jessie what's a good useful alternative that can work with suexecusergroup? |
| 18:40.02 | duggles | (i found this out the hard way this afternoon ;_;) |
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| 18:45.31 | lb5tr | Hi a have problem w gnupg, I can't add subkey to my keychain |
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| 18:45.34 | lb5tr | gpg> addkey |
| 18:45.35 | lb5tr | Secret parts of primary key are not available. |
| 18:45.37 | lb5tr | gpg: Key generation failed: secret key not available |
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| 18:46.00 | lb5tr | this is what I'm getting, I can sign/encrypt with this key normally |
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| 18:49.32 | Jikan | Hi! After uninstalling NVIDIA driver, nouveau doesn't detect my monitors correctly (doesn't detect the second one at all actually). It runs on a "degraded" mode on my primary monitor and xrandr doesn't see them as well... |
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| 18:50.30 | Circuitsoft | Jikan: Have you rebooted? |
| 18:50.39 | Jikan | I reinstalled nouveau packages, ran dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, etc. Nouveau module is loaded, nothing about nouveau/nvidia remains in modprobe.d, I of course removed my old xorg.conf |
| 18:50.49 | Jikan | Circuitsoft: yeah, sure |
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| 18:51.09 | Circuitsoft | The problem is likely that the nvidia kernel module is still somewhere. Also, AFAIK, nouveau requires kms. |
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| 18:51.31 | lb5tr | hmm |
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| 18:51.39 | lb5tr | it looks like I'm using subkey already |
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| 18:53.17 | Jikan | Well, dkms uninstalled nvidia kernel module according to what I saw when I uninstalled nv driver. And I don't get the "nouveau requires kms." part |
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| 18:53.57 | Jikan | lsmod | grep nv returns nothing |
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| 18:59.18 | beastwick | How come there isn't a steam sid package? |
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| 19:02.38 | x86iac | i think you get it from steam themselves |
| 19:02.47 | Dinduks | babilen: I configured my VPN and it is working fine. do you know how I can know the name of the used vpn from the cli? |
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| 19:03.37 | beastwick | Oh is that why steam stable package adds repos to sources? |
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| 19:14.42 | Dinduks | babilen: found, nmcli :) |
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| 19:21.32 | m5tr | hi |
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| 19:21.43 | m5tr | DEBIAN SAYS i have 0 BYTES LEFT ON HDD |
| 19:21.47 | m5tr | but when i open trash |
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| 19:21.51 | m5tr | i doesnt allow me to remove files |
| 19:22.04 | m5tr | cant remove my stupid files from Trash bin |
| 19:22.11 | m5tr | in windows i just click and it works |
| 19:22.34 | xlab_ | hi |
| 19:22.51 | xlab_ | sudo rm -fr ./Trash |
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| 19:23.58 | m5tr | xlab_ i clicked Start->Run and put that. nothing happened |
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| 19:24.24 | xlab_ | go to termina |
| 19:24.26 | xlab_ | l |
| 19:24.27 | xlab_ | and |
| 19:24.29 | xlab_ | then |
| 19:24.59 | xlab_ | you shod replace "./trash" with your trash path |
| 19:25.08 | m5tr | HOW do i know my trash path |
| 19:25.20 | m5tr | it never asked for one. and on windows i dont need to know it |
| 19:25.30 | xlab_ | sudo rm -rf /path |
| 19:25.31 | m5tr | i just installed debian, trash was already installed |
| 19:26.00 | xlab_ | what you mean? |
| 19:26.11 | m5tr | i entered "sudo rm -rf /path" nothing happened |
| 19:26.23 | xlab_ | no no no |
| 19:26.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | `sudo rm -rf /path` will delete '/path' |
| 19:26.38 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt he told me to write this |
| 19:26.40 | NoImNotNineVolt | nothing happened because you probably don't have a directory named /path |
| 19:26.52 | xlab_ | you shoud replace path with your file name |
| 19:26.59 | NoImNotNineVolt | he told you to write that with the assumption that you'd be able to replace '/path' with whatever directory you're trying to remove. |
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| 19:27.03 | m5tr | how do i know my filename if its in trash? |
| 19:27.16 | NoImNotNineVolt | what is "trash"? |
| 19:27.22 | xlab_ | ok |
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| 19:27.27 | xlab_ | cd /home |
| 19:27.38 | xlab_ | then cd to you user |
| 19:27.41 | xlab_ | ok? |
| 19:27.47 | xlab_ | what is your user name? |
| 19:27.56 | NoImNotNineVolt | xlab_: `cd ~` would be easier. |
| 19:27.59 | m5tr | when i click properties in stupid trash file it shows "trash:///" |
| 19:28.04 | xlab_ | yes |
| 19:28.06 | xlab_ | cd ~ |
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| 19:28.22 | xlab_ | but if he was root he going to another dir |
| 19:28.24 | NoImNotNineVolt | i have no idea what you mean by 'trash', and i've never seen that on any of the debian boxes i work with. |
| 19:28.31 | greycat | just "cd" with no arguments is equivalent to cd ~ |
| 19:28.31 | NoImNotNineVolt | are you sure this is debian and not osx or something? :P |
| 19:28.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | greycat: today i learned. interesting. |
| 19:29.11 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt yes, DEBIAN |
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| 19:29.27 | m5tr | i entered |
| 19:29.30 | m5tr | "cd ~" |
| 19:29.32 | m5tr | nothing happened |
| 19:29.40 | NoImNotNineVolt | then you're already in your home directory. |
| 19:29.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | you can confirm this by `pwd` |
| 19:29.52 | m5tr | user@host:~$ |
| 19:30.03 | m5tr | ok now how to remove trash files |
| 19:30.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | yes, that's right. ~ is another name for your home directory. |
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| 19:30.27 | xlab_ | trash directory is in /home/user/.local/share/Trash |
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| 19:30.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | yea, google just told me that too. |
| 19:30.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | ~/.local/share/Trash |
| 19:30.49 | apt | /.local/share/trash is, like, still were things are supposed to be. |
| 19:31.18 | Brigo | there are other trash, in usb stick, for example. |
| 19:31.33 | m5tr | nothing happened |
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| 19:31.36 | m5tr | files are still there |
| 19:31.58 | NoImNotNineVolt | there is no such thing as "trash". this is an implementation-specific feature in your file management software. |
| 19:32.07 | m5tr | stupid debian file managers |
| 19:32.14 | m5tr | on windows trash is trash |
| 19:32.14 | NoImNotNineVolt | Brigo: none of my usb sticks have any "trash". |
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| 19:32.18 | teraflops | ^^ |
| 19:32.24 | xlab_ | you can use dolphin for filemanager |
| 19:32.30 | m5tr | wait something happened |
| 19:32.31 | xlab_ | thats best |
| 19:32.32 | x86iac | one mans trash is anohter man's |
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| 19:32.42 | at0m | NoImNotNineVolt: cos you don't use filemanagers that use trash? |
| 19:32.48 | m5tr | it destroyed it |
| 19:32.51 | at0m | or haven't deleted from usb |
| 19:32.52 | Brigo | NoImNotNineVolt, check them carefully. It is hidden. |
| 19:32.54 | m5tr | i have 50MB |
| 19:32.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | i use bash. |
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| 19:33.08 | m5tr | why debian uses entire HDD after moderate use? where to get free space |
| 19:33.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | Brigo: i assure you, none of my usb sticks have any sort of "trash". |
| 19:33.36 | Brigo | NoImNotNineVolt, good for you, i don't know how to avoid them. |
| 19:33.44 | NoImNotNineVolt | unless rm is now an alias for `mv $@ ./.trash/` |
| 19:33.45 | m5tr | i run out of HDD so i run out of PAGEFILE i didnt had ram stupid OS |
| 19:33.55 | x86iac | cause you put them into a windows computer that's why |
| 19:34.02 | NoImNotNineVolt | Brigo: use rm instead of some "file manager". |
| 19:34.15 | NoImNotNineVolt | or that. windows and/or osx may do weird things too. |
| 19:34.49 | xlab_ | i have problem with virtualbox????? |
| 19:34.54 | at0m | m5tr: use du to see what's using up your disk |
| 19:34.55 | teraflops | I think the trash folder needs gvfs stuff |
| 19:34.56 | m5tr | on windows i would just open trash and remove files. here i have to spend hours on IRC asking for magic commands |
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| 19:35.08 | xlab_ | forget windows plz |
| 19:35.13 | m5tr | why |
| 19:35.20 | m5tr | it works compared to this |
| 19:35.22 | xlab_ | use dolphin as file manager |
| 19:35.32 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: unfair example. i can write a file manager that moves files to a hidden directory instead of into the 'recycle bin' too, and you'd be just as confused. |
| 19:35.38 | x86iac | makes all his $ using the magic commands cp mv ls rm .... |
| 19:35.41 | m5tr | xlab_ i have PCMANFM - it got installed with LXDE |
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| 19:35.59 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt on windows im not confused |
| 19:36.00 | at0m | xlab_: if he's on kde. m5tr don't install dolphin, it depends on kde |
| 19:36.11 | m5tr | at0m i not KDE |
| 19:36.15 | NoImNotNineVolt | you chose to use some weird file manager that strangely hides files instead of deleting them. there are other, more standard options. ones that simply delete files. like the standard rm command. |
| 19:36.23 | m5tr | at0m i mean, i think i was but then i installed LXDE - i regret that |
| 19:36.23 | at0m | m5tr: that's why i say not to install dolphin |
| 19:36.24 | x86iac | m5tr: the whole channel has voted that you will be better off using windows and not debian |
| 19:36.26 | xlab_ | at0m not in kde |
| 19:36.38 | teraflops | m5tr: it's your fault so don't blame debian |
| 19:36.43 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: on windows you're using normal utilities that behave normally. under debian, clearly you're not. you chose a weird file manager, and you can't blame that on debian. |
| 19:36.56 | m5tr | teraflops its not my fault to require to put magic keywords to remove files |
| 19:37.06 | teraflops | my vote is for buying him a win10 license |
| 19:37.09 | NoImNotNineVolt | rm is not a "magic keyword". it's the remove command. |
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| 19:37.17 | at0m | m5tr: usually you'd Empty Trash from filemanager |
| 19:37.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | that's how you remove files. by using the remove command. |
| 19:37.21 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt i did not choose it, i installed lxde as they told me to install because it looks like windows (it doesnt really) |
| 19:37.22 | at0m | not using weird commands |
| 19:37.30 | beastwick | I smell a troll |
| 19:37.33 | m5tr | at0m thats what i tried but it shows error |
| 19:37.34 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: lxde still has terminals where you can use the rm command. |
| 19:37.41 | x86iac | a magic troll? |
| 19:37.48 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt yes i used and they worked but i had to ask on IRC |
| 19:38.09 | m5tr | i delete normally files by clicking right => delete |
| 19:38.16 | NoImNotNineVolt | if learning to use the rm command is "asking too much", perhaps gnu/linux isn't the operating system for you. |
| 19:38.27 | x86iac | NoImNotNineVolt: we already voted |
| 19:38.30 | Jikan | Could purging/reinstalling the kernel solve this nouveau issue? I mean, by removing any hidden/remaining nvidia module? |
| 19:38.33 | m5tr | i want mouse and gui |
| 19:38.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | then get os x. |
| 19:38.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | i hear it's got a really pretty gui too. |
| 19:39.05 | Brigo | Jikan, what are you talking about? |
| 19:39.11 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt it has ugly EYECANDY gui, it has limited amount of software, its shady/backdoored, its apple, its bad, its |
| 19:39.12 | NoImNotNineVolt | and the mouse only has one button, so you don't have to worry about too much confusion. |
| 19:39.14 | cxd13 | m5tr use windows or os x and shut up already |
| 19:39.33 | m5tr | cxd13 i will, it was other person who forced me to debian |
| 19:39.48 | teraflops | m5tr: gvfs-trash --empty? |
| 19:39.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | of course, i had to google to figure out how to delete files on os x also. |
| 19:40.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | the delete key on my keyboard did nothing. and there's no obvious way of right-clicking to bring up a context menu either. |
| 19:40.12 | x86iac | NoImNotNineVolt: doesn't osx have the magic rm command? |
| 19:40.15 | m5tr | teraflops i already destroyed it with their command something rm rf |
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| 19:40.18 | cxd13 | NoImNotNineVolt: you had to google that when it's just right click -> empty trash |
| 19:40.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | x86iac: sshhhh :P |
| 19:40.32 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt thats why windows is best OS |
| 19:40.33 | NoImNotNineVolt | cxd13: my macbook doesn't have a right mouse button. |
| 19:40.33 | teraflops | m5tr: oh what a pitty |
| 19:40.52 | teraflops | m5tr: im going to ignore you right now |
| 19:41.03 | cxd13 | NoImNotNineVolt: control click then. that sucks.. a laptop without right mouse button. why would anyone buy that |
| 19:41.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: agreed. well, unless you actually use your computer for computing. in which case windows is rather lackluster. but either way, i recommend you use windows. |
| 19:41.06 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt lack of right button is still better than lack of mouse/gui (like on linux) |
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| 19:41.19 | squinty | m5tr, running 8.1 gnome here. defintely can right click and empty trash, no need for command line etc. |
| 19:41.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | cxd13: like i said, "no obvious way". ctrl-click is about as obvious as rm in a terminal. |
| 19:41.39 | squinty | wrong |
| 19:41.54 | squinty | turn on your desktop trash icon |
| 19:41.58 | NoImNotNineVolt | squinty: he's on lxde. |
| 19:42.02 | squinty | so |
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| 19:42.04 | cxd13 | NoImNotNineVolt: well there's also the apple icon that's always in the top left which you can click and then choose empty trash |
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| 19:42.17 | m5tr | squinty i entered trash in file manager but it didnt allow to remove with mouse |
| 19:42.31 | Jikan | Brigo: about a problem I stated above about nouveau not working correctly after uninstalling nvidia drivers. |
| 19:42.31 | NoImNotNineVolt | cxd13: why would i expect an apple icon to have anything to do with emptying trash? is that what passes for UX design now? |
| 19:42.47 | squinty | that may be the case on lxde but not as a rule with other desktops |
| 19:42.52 | cxd13 | NoImNotNineVolt: because it's a global menu on that OS. just like the start button in windows |
| 19:42.56 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt delete key or right click-> delete is obvious for first time users. rm is not it requires stupid IRC |
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| 19:43.09 | Brigo | Jikan, nvidia drivers from debian or the .run? |
| 19:43.11 | NoImNotNineVolt | cxd13: i don't remember the start button on windows having anything about emptying the recycle bin. |
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| 19:43.27 | x86iac | you right cloick on trash barrel |
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| 19:43.33 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt you can open a trash and remove files there |
| 19:43.34 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: again, this macbook pro doesn't have a "right click", and the delete key doesn't delete files either. |
| 19:43.34 | cxd13 | NoImNotNineVolt: i didn't say it did. i said it's a global menu. first place anyone should look for anything |
| 19:43.42 | Jikan | Brigo: from debian. Installed via Synaptic |
| 19:43.46 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt mac is crap |
| 19:43.53 | Jikan | And removed via Synaptic as well |
| 19:43.54 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: that's a subjective claim. |
| 19:43.55 | at0m | who uses a mouse to delete files anyway |
| 19:44.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | at0m++; |
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| 19:44.13 | m5tr | at0m me |
| 19:44.21 | m5tr | im clicker, not keyboarder |
| 19:44.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: you're doing it wrong. go back to windows. |
| 19:44.22 | teraflops | at0m: who needs a trash folder? |
| 19:44.22 | at0m | see where that brought you |
| 19:44.24 | Brigo | Jikan, then if you removed all the nvidia files and it cofigurations the system should works as before. |
| 19:44.31 | squinty | at0m, me been doing it for decades |
| 19:44.34 | at0m | teraflops: exactly |
| 19:44.43 | Circuitsoft | NoImNotNineVolt: http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/MAC_EMUMOUSEBTN.html |
| 19:44.45 | m5tr | teraflops actually i disabled it on windows. but on linux it was installed already. how can remove? |
| 19:44.58 | m5tr | at0m how to destroy/disable trash |
| 19:45.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | Circuitsoft: "no obvious way". |
| 19:45.06 | NoImNotNineVolt | alt-click isn't obvious. |
| 19:45.08 | at0m | m5tr: filemanager options |
| 19:45.18 | at0m | or use Shift-Del |
| 19:45.33 | NoImNotNineVolt | see, i'm just trying to point out the double-standard. |
| 19:45.49 | Jikan | Brigo: yes, it should, but it doesn't. My monitors aren't seen anymore by nouveau. The second one is just black and the first one runs in degraded mode. xrandr doesn't see nothing, etc. |
| 19:46.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | os x is often hailed as some paragon of usability, but when you look at deleting files, it's no better than debian+lxde. |
| 19:46.03 | at0m | Shift-Del, bypasses trash, liek on windows! |
| 19:46.15 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt on windows DELETE key or right click-> delete is ovbious |
| 19:46.25 | Circuitsoft | Jikan: Check dkms - to make sure the nvidia module was completely removed. |
| 19:46.34 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt yes i agree mac is as crap as debian |
| 19:46.42 | Circuitsoft | Also, make sure you don't have nomodeset or something of the like in your kernel command line arguments in /etc/default/grub |
| 19:46.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: you're a very opinionated individual. |
| 19:46.58 | Jikan | Circuitsoft: OK. And how would I do that? |
| 19:46.58 | squinty | m5tr, you shouldn't need root/sudo to empty your personal trash check your setup and make sure it's properties is set for your user rather than admin etc |
| 19:47.06 | m5tr | i tested windows and debian ubuntu. i found windows best |
| 19:47.22 | at0m | m5tr: use whatever works for you |
| 19:47.25 | m5tr | squinty i dont know how to do such things |
| 19:47.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | perfect. now you can wipe debian and stop bothering the rest of us :P |
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| 19:47.28 | Brigo | Jikan, are you sure that you are using nouveau? |
| 19:47.34 | Circuitsoft | Jikan: dkms status |
| 19:47.37 | Jikan | dkms status drops only one line about VirtualBox |
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| 19:47.56 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt well its not that simple. another person made a choice for me. it will require time and effort to reproduce windows setup in that use case |
| 19:48.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | if you're stuck on removing files, something generally considered trivial, you won't have a good experience with the rest of debian. |
| 19:48.12 | NoImNotNineVolt | it only gets more complicated from there. |
| 19:48.15 | Circuitsoft | Jikan: rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:48.15 | Brigo | Jikan, i am courious: why do you want to use nouveau and not nvidia? |
| 19:48.24 | Jikan | Brigo: if by "sure" you mean "lsmod | grep nouveau" returning a bunch of lines containing nouveau, yes. |
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| 19:48.37 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt why is it? why they overcomplicate simple stuff? |
| 19:48.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | if you're stuck using debian, the only advice i can offer you is to become familiar with the bash shell. |
| 19:48.46 | m5tr | computers should make things easier |
| 19:49.00 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: Definition of easier is very subjective. |
| 19:49.01 | Brigo | Jikan, yes, it is enough i think :) |
| 19:49.03 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: "easier" is subjective. you perceive it as "more difficult", i perceive it as "more powerful". |
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| 19:49.15 | squinty | m5tr, might want to check out q4os (debian testing based with stripped down kde desktop) |
| 19:49.23 | Circuitsoft | There's a lot that is much easier in Linux than Windows. |
| 19:49.39 | Brigo | Jikan, Circuitsoft don't rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf, better gzip etc/X11/xorg.conf, just in case. |
| 19:49.40 | m5tr | Circuitsoft like? |
| 19:49.46 | TheCreeper | If anything Windows makes things more difficlt than they should be. |
| 19:49.51 | Jikan | Brigo: because I've spent the last 5 days trying to get rid of video tearing (among a bunch other little glitches), With no success. And this issue wasn't occuring with nouveau. |
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| 19:50.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | let's say you have a directory with thousands of files, and you want to delete files that match the regexp [aeiou]+(\d+).pyc |
| 19:50.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | how would you do that using your mouse? |
| 19:50.18 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt windows is powerful. you have BAT files and POWERSHELL. but its OPTIONAL!!! |
| 19:50.19 | NoImNotNineVolt | it would take you hours. it would take me minutes. |
| 19:50.30 | m5tr | windows provide both gui and scripted way |
| 19:50.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | lol, seriously, you use powershell? and you can't rm a file? |
| 19:50.37 | m5tr | i dont use powershell |
| 19:50.40 | m5tr | but i heard about it |
| 19:50.47 | TheCreeper | lel |
| 19:50.49 | m5tr | i dont need powersheel as mouse is enough |
| 19:50.49 | Brigo | Jikan, i would like to check your /etc/Xorg.0.log and if you can get one, one version from before installing nvidia. |
| 19:50.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | [powershell is actually surprisingly nice] |
| 19:51.00 | beastwick | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.07 | Jikan | Circuitsoft: Je removed my xorg.conf before reboot. (actually, juste renamed but that should be OK) |
| 19:51.10 | m5tr | but windows gives you choice mouse OR powershell or both. linux only keyboard instead |
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| 19:51.31 | TheCreeper | linux gives choice too. you can use a GUI or CLI or both |
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| 19:51.35 | m5tr | beastwick for example because im stuck on 4GB limited windows? its too few RAM |
| 19:51.44 | NoImNotNineVolt | head asplodes |
| 19:51.45 | m5tr | i run virtual machines with win and linux off that windows |
| 19:51.46 | TheCreeper | Linux is not keyboard only |
| 19:52.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: you're one of the better trolls that's come through here recently. i commend you for your talents. |
| 19:52.01 | Brigo | can you stop feeding the troll? |
| 19:52.04 | m5tr | TheCreeper the thing is, gui is broken |
| 19:52.13 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt im not troll, why you think so |
| 19:52.16 | squinty | m5tr, na you need to experiment with different desktops more. I run both windows and linux based systems here. don't really have a perference over the two to be honest. |
| 19:52.16 | TheCreeper | m5tr: How is GUI broken exactly? |
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| 19:52.26 | Brigo | can you joing #debian-offtopic and going on with this arguing there? |
| 19:52.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | if you're not a troll, you should consider becoming one. you're a natural. |
| 19:52.30 | m5tr | TheCreeper for example it doesnt allow to delete files with mouse |
| 19:52.33 | Circuitsoft | m5tr - I suspect that kde would be much more to your liking than Gnome. |
| 19:52.34 | NoImNotNineVolt | Brigo++; |
| 19:53.00 | m5tr | Circuitsoft i used it before. it has some functions but i didnt liked the looks too much. too colorful and eyecandy |
| 19:53.04 | NoImNotNineVolt | Circuitsoft: he's using lxde |
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| 19:53.13 | m5tr | and it uses much ram. but guess i will have to go back to kde |
| 19:53.18 | cxd13 | just ignore him already |
| 19:53.26 | teraflops | avoiding mouse you become productive that's why I use xmonad |
| 19:53.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | yea, i'm getting back to work. sorry for the distracting offtopic stuff. |
| 19:53.30 | Circuitsoft | m5tr - So change themes. I agree, the PlastiK theme is pretty ugly, but there are others far more restrained and nice. |
| 19:53.30 | Jikan | Brigo: https://www.zerobin.net/?133e7126769c5d28#SxoKIkFK/YMrdDB6+IkjOuRqOhyNJf8IXyNAjf6BNcU= (Current version, I don't have any previous version) |
| 19:53.38 | m5tr | Circuitsoft they told me to install lxde because its "light" and looks like windows (that was lie) |
| 19:53.44 | TheCreeper | Man this guy is such a troll. "You cant delete files with mouse on linux" - m5tr |
| 19:53.48 | Brigo | should i call an operator? |
| 19:53.49 | m5tr | Circuitsoft id find a win2000 theme |
| 19:53.57 | m5tr | TheCreeper you cant i tried |
| 19:54.02 | m5tr | thats why i entered this channel |
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| 19:54.06 | x86iac | Brigo: quit being a baby |
| 19:54.07 | m5tr | they helped me to remove with keybaord |
| 19:54.17 | squinty | m5tr: <squinty> m5tr, might want to check out q4os (debian testing based with stripped down kde desktop) way lighter than running a full blown kde install |
| 19:54.18 | TheCreeper | m5tr: Try deleting files on Gnome, Mate, LXDE, etc. Your wrong. |
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| 19:54.48 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: "you cant i tried" is a very narrow way of thinking. |
| 19:54.49 | m5tr | squinty well but i have already existing installation i dont want to lose it |
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| 19:55.00 | m5tr | TheCreeper i tried in lxde, doesnt work |
| 19:55.15 | TheCreeper | m5tr: Then something is wrong with your lxde installation. |
| 19:55.22 | TheCreeper | m5tr: You should fix that |
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| 19:55.49 | m5tr | TheCreeper i only copy pasted command to install lxde i did nothing wrong |
| 19:55.55 | Brigo | Jikan, i have never used nouveau, so i am asking: don't you have to turn on KMS on bios for nouveau? |
| 19:55.58 | TheCreeper | m5tr: Also saying it does not work in lxde is stupid. Your saying that because it does not work in lxde then it must not work everywhere else |
| 19:56.23 | TheCreeper | Massive generalisation |
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| 19:56.28 | m5tr | i say it doesnt in lxde because i tried in lxde. i dont know what that means |
| 19:56.37 | m5tr | im no expert on linuxes |
| 19:57.19 | Jikan | Brigo: either you don't or it's already turned on in my BIOS as when I installed Debian, it came with nouveau and everything worked like a charm, dual-screen, resolutions; etc. |
| 19:57.21 | TheCreeper | m5tr: thats your problem then. your an expert or experienced user. you cant make these assumptions, generalisations, etc about something you know so little about. |
| 19:57.31 | TheCreeper | m5tr: instead you should ask people and learn |
| 19:57.43 | m5tr | no on windows i never ask, i just click and it works |
| 19:57.47 | cxd13 | TheCreeper: please stop |
| 19:57.57 | m5tr | on linux with simplest tasks i end up on irc for hours |
| 19:58.08 | Brigo | Jikan, you are not using nouveau Xorg driver but vesa as you can see in line "[ 27.185] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10" and next |
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| 19:59.04 | m5tr | NoImNotNineVolt squinty one of you told me to use tool to check for space used but im out of ram. i need to remove some directory with TEMP files or something, do you know one in debian? |
| 19:59.08 | m5tr | i need free space FAST |
| 19:59.14 | Brigo | Jikan, nouveou driver are failing, lines 27.155 |
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| 19:59.16 | m5tr | im running out of pagefile |
| 19:59.19 | squinty | m5tr, http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=36727 |
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| 19:59.29 | x86iac | i need free pizza FAST |
| 19:59.42 | x86iac | pagefile? |
| 19:59.46 | Jikan | Brigo: you mean [ 27.155] (EE) [drm] KMS not enabled ? |
| 19:59.51 | at0m | x86iac: sorry only popcorn today |
| 19:59.54 | squinty | m5tr, that web page says what you have to do |
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| 20:00.15 | Brigo | Jikan, and next lines |
| 20:00.16 | m5tr | squinty but i see trash. but when i try to remove files from it, it shows ERROR that i cant remove them |
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| 20:00.33 | squinty | m5tr, read that page |
| 20:00.38 | m5tr | x86iac yes that file/partition that your RAM is put into on HDD |
| 20:00.46 | m5tr | i have 30MB of space left help |
| 20:00.51 | m5tr | squinty i read it |
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| 20:00.54 | Jikan | Brigo: yes, I see. Then, it raises a new question... How do I activate nouveau? |
| 20:00.54 | m5tr | doesnt help |
| 20:01.04 | Brigo | Jikan, good question :D |
| 20:01.13 | Brigo | do you have /dev/dri/card0 ? |
| 20:01.17 | Jikan | I think the nvidia install somehow deactivated it, but... |
| 20:01.25 | m5tr | squinty my trash is already empty. i need to find some files i can delete like TEMP |
| 20:01.26 | x86iac | m5tr: it is called swap on linux |
| 20:01.36 | m5tr | x86iac yes and im OUT of it i need HDD space fast |
| 20:01.37 | squinty | m5tr, it took you 5 seconds to read that whole page....highly doutful. end of discussion for me then |
| 20:01.40 | Jikan | Brigo: no |
| 20:01.46 | x86iac | lol |
| 20:01.48 | Brigo | Jikan, if the nouveou kernel module is loaded, /dev/dri/card0 should be there, i guess. |
| 20:01.49 | greycat | m5tr: have you tried "apt-get autoclean" yet? |
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| 20:02.15 | Brigo | Jikan, check /var/log/syslog about nouveau for some error. |
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| 20:02.54 | m5tr | greycat im not sure if thats good idea. i dont have ram to install and run apps right now. and i have very low HDD performance because of virtualization so i better dont use AUTOMATED things like that |
| 20:03.13 | Jikan | Brigo: "Aug 7 21:08:39 nawak systemd-modules-load[307]: Inserted module 'nouveau'" and that's all |
| 20:03.25 | greycat | m5tr: I did not say install. apt-get autoclean REMOVES old versions of cached .deb files. |
| 20:03.29 | m5tr | i need some known files that i can delete like TEMP on windows |
| 20:03.37 | m5tr | greycat ok will try then |
| 20:03.42 | m5tr | i thought its app |
| 20:03.59 | x86iac | m5tr i guess you are an obamacare programmer? |
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| 20:04.09 | Brigo | Jikan, let's ask google :) |
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| 20:04.46 | m5tr | x86iac im programmer but no obamacare (at least not yet) |
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| 20:05.03 | x86iac | i've heard that the obamacase site has only 10MB left of swap and then the whole thing crashes |
| 20:05.19 | m5tr | greycat i used it, it showed three messages and nothing happened. didnt remove files |
| 20:05.25 | Brigo | Jikan, it looks promissing: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/487400-Trying-to-reenable-Nouveau-after-failed-nVidia-install |
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| 20:05.51 | greycat | m5tr: If you want to get a bit more aggressive, "apt-get clean" will remove ALL cached .deb files, not just the ones with multiple versions lying around. |
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| 20:06.02 | Brigo | Jikan, what's the output of grep nouveau /etc/modprobe.d/* ? |
| 20:06.06 | x86iac | and use STAT instead of FAST |
| 20:06.09 | m5tr | greycat ok lets remove everything, i need space |
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| 20:07.34 | Jikan | Brigo: blank |
| 20:08.00 | Brigo | Jikan, damn! :D |
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| 20:08.15 | m5tr | greycat ok i used it but it only gave about 40MB space |
| 20:08.17 | m5tr | i need much more |
| 20:08.21 | x86iac | how did you run out of ram and swap? |
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| 20:09.00 | m5tr | x86iac i told you i have windows with 4GB limit? and running all OS from that so i have to limit their RAM and they use swap. and linux and FIREFOX is very memory hog |
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| 20:09.13 | greycat | What |
| 20:09.30 | m5tr | im running all the linuxes and stuff from said windows |
| 20:09.36 | m5tr | i dont have much ram avaible |
| 20:09.36 | greycat | I mean, yes, firefox is a memory hog. No disputing that. What is this windows crap? |
| 20:09.41 | Brigo | Jikan, in that link the proble is that nouvea is configuring with modeset=0. |
| 20:09.48 | at0m | m5tr: food for your firefox: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 20:09.49 | squinty | vm's?? |
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| 20:10.07 | m5tr | greycat its not crap. it was designed 15 years ago or so. Windows XP 32bit SP3 |
| 20:10.14 | m5tr | squinty yes |
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| 20:10.48 | m5tr | greycat i mean, this windows does support PAE and im using over 4GB but it has 4gb PHYSICAL ram limit |
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| 20:11.01 | m5tr | and 1.8GB per process limit |
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| 20:11.12 | Brigo | Jikan, another questiong is if libdrm-nouveau2 is installed ... |
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| 20:11.33 | m5tr | my PC comfort of use i rate 2/10 |
| 20:11.36 | m5tr | but cant do anything |
| 20:11.46 | m5tr | can buy RAM because it wont work |
| 20:12.04 | m5tr | i have 3GB physical but i need 6-8GB |
| 20:12.28 | Circuitsoft | m5tr - You'll probably be better off running 64-bit Linux on the host and Windows in a VM on Linux. I did that for a while, and actually had better Windows performance than bare metal. |
| 20:13.11 | x86iac | m5tr: do you have a link to some of your programms? |
| 20:13.41 | m5tr | Circuitsoft well thats what im considering in my setup. I cant drop win XP because its best OS and i have lot of setup and installed stuff here. so i planned to have 64bit linux host and run current installation there. but im afraid i will get frustration out of linux host OS. and also i will have troubles with devices like PCI/ GPU on win xp |
| 20:13.41 | x86iac | anything in cobol? |
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| 20:13.56 | FeministFish | anyone have a step by step guide on generating keys / etc to make the initial connection to a server on a local network? |
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| 20:14.10 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: Does your machine have Vt-D? |
| 20:14.11 | m5tr | x86iac no i dont program open source or with people. i dont do stuff with others because people are not friendly and nice |
| 20:14.15 | m5tr | Circuitsoft yes |
| 20:14.25 | m5tr | hardware virtualization (AMD) |
| 20:14.42 | m5tr | Circuitsoft but i will still get crap I/O perforamnce |
| 20:14.46 | Circuitsoft | Okay, but does that include VT-D, which AMD calls IOMMU? |
| 20:14.47 | x86iac | m5tr: you only program closed source programs? |
| 20:15.01 | Circuitsoft | What chipset is on your motherboard? |
| 20:15.22 | m5tr | Circuitsoft yes i think amd puts that in all AM3 cpus not like intel does |
| 20:16.01 | m5tr | Circuitsoft 760G |
| 20:16.06 | m5tr | AMD 760G |
| 20:16.06 | Circuitsoft | Last I looked (Still on socket AM2), only some chipsets did IOMMU. |
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| 20:16.11 | Circuitsoft | Pretty sure 760G does not do IOMMU. |
| 20:16.13 | m5tr | i have AM3+ |
| 20:16.14 | Circuitsoft | 790 might. |
| 20:16.19 | greenman | HALP! |
| 20:16.21 | greenman | ;) |
| 20:16.28 | m5tr | so IOMMU help with I/O ? or with PCI? |
| 20:16.32 | Circuitsoft | I think 890 does, but 880 and lower doesn't. |
| 20:16.42 | jelly | dpkg, tell greenman about ask |
| 20:16.43 | Circuitsoft | IOMMU allows for PCI passthrough to VM. |
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| 20:16.56 | m5tr | that would be useful as hell |
| 20:17.04 | greenman | So, I'm tryint to do a dist-upgrade and it's failing on dependencies. When I do a apt-get -f install, I get this: |
| 20:17.07 | greenman | dpkg: no, sysvinit-utils is essential, will not deconfigure it in order to enable installation of startpar |
| 20:17.07 | dpkg | greenman: okay |
| 20:17.13 | m5tr | Circuitsoft does FM2 support IOMMU? |
| 20:17.20 | m5tr | fm2 boards |
| 20:17.21 | Circuitsoft | It's a chipset issue, not a socket issue. |
| 20:17.27 | mtn | greenman, which version of debian? |
| 20:17.37 | greenman | jelly: I know the rules, I was getting there. typing takes time. :) |
| 20:17.41 | m5tr | im not sure what they use on fm2 (what chipsets) |
| 20:17.58 | greenman | I'm on squeeze I believe |
| 20:17.59 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: IOMMU requires support all the way down through the last PCIe bridge before the peripheral you want to pass through. |
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| 20:18.01 | m5tr | Circuitsoft but im afraid of crap IO performance but if i bought SSD then it would work |
| 20:18.15 | jelly | greenman: alright, then... |
| 20:18.15 | mtn | greenman, dist upgrade to what, then? |
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| 20:18.26 | jelly | dpkg, tell greenman about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 20:18.39 | greenman | mtn: apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:18.44 | jelly | there's a factoid for everything! |
| 20:18.47 | greycat | greenman: from squeeze to what? |
| 20:18.49 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: If you're thinking of building a new machine, research the chipset on the motherboard you're looking at and make sure it has full IOMMU support. |
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| 20:19.05 | m5tr | Circuitsoft and also im scared i will hate that linux host OS i will use for the setup. even that it will just virtualize other stuff |
| 20:19.24 | m5tr | but it also gives much possibilities, like snapshotting my win xp |
| 20:19.35 | greenman | greycat: you can choose? I just did dist-upgrade, I thought it would take me to latest. |
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| 20:19.43 | mtn | oh boy |
| 20:19.49 | greycat | greenman: It tries to take you to whatever is in your sources.list. |
| 20:19.53 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: I used synergy to enable mouse/keyboard from the VM. I had a video card passed through to Windows, and used onboard video for Linux. |
| 20:20.06 | Circuitsoft | AMD supports PCI passthrough much better than nVidia does. |
| 20:20.09 | greycat | greenman: if you attempted to jump straight from squeeze to stable (jessie), it will not work. It's too far. |
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| 20:20.19 | Circuitsoft | Onboard video was Intel, which has the best Linux graphics drivers. |
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| 20:20.26 | greycat | You have to go squeeze->wheezy and then wheezy->jessie. |
| 20:20.34 | Jikan | Brigo: trying something. Rebooting, and I'll let you know. |
| 20:20.34 | m5tr | Circuitsoft currently i have only onboard AMD |
| 20:20.48 | greenman | hmm... well crap. Okay. |
| 20:20.54 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: I'd recommend getting a very low-end AMD card, so you can hopefully use both. |
| 20:21.14 | Circuitsoft | I used both inputs on my monitors, and would switch monitor inputs when going from Win to Lin and back. |
| 20:21.17 | greenman | greycat: if I have a local repository mirrored, can I still choose which version in sources? |
| 20:21.18 | Brigo | Jikan, yes, please :) |
| 20:21.28 | greycat | greenman: now you're really starting to scare me. |
| 20:21.32 | m5tr | Circuitsoft but there are other solutions for my problem too i need to consider |
| 20:21.32 | mtn | greenman, make sure to read the release notes before upgrading to another release |
| 20:22.18 | greenman | greycat: my debian is not strong. I come from the redhat world |
| 20:22.20 | m5tr | but others have much drawbacks, that solutions sounds best atm |
| 20:22.34 | greenman | was told to update these machines, not told how... |
| 20:23.10 | greycat | greenman: start by figuring out what they are currently running. "cat /etc/debian_version" and possibly "uname -a" and "dpkg -l libc6" would give the most critical info. |
| 20:23.12 | m5tr | Circuitsoft hey and what if i used WINDOWS xp 64bit / 2003 for my host OS? and virtualize my win xp inside it? but not sure if pci passthrough would be supported |
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| 20:23.39 | greenman | 6 |
| 20:23.44 | greenman | that's squeeze, right? |
| 20:23.47 | greycat | yes |
| 20:23.52 | Circuitsoft | Pretty sure that XP-64 does not support IOMMU. Win7 might. |
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| 20:24.23 | greenman | from what I understand form reading the docs I would change squeeze to wheezy and stable to wheezy to control where it goes? |
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| 20:24.38 | greycat | If you believe you're on a squeeze system (not "squeeze with stuff from ___ and ___ and ___") then your best path is to put wheezy lines in sources.list and dist-upgrade to wheezy, then repeat to dist-upgrade to jessie. |
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| 20:26.46 | jelly | greenman: on debian, a release upgrade is done by reading and following the release notes for each consecutive release |
| 20:27.13 | jelly | greenman: the "dist-upgrade" command is basically just patching, much like "yum update" |
| 20:27.19 | greycat | Yes, do that too. There may be additional steps like "install a kernel image" in some cases. |
| 20:27.33 | m5tr | WHAT files you can safely remove on debian to get FREE SPACE? like on windows you delete TEMP?? |
| 20:27.41 | kaptan | I booted using jessie rescue environment. How can I get hosts file to use apt-get install linux-image-generic? |
| 20:27.53 | rozie | m5tr: how much space do you need? |
| 20:28.08 | greenman | Yeah, I came across that on another system, had to install kernel, to instal udev, to do the dist-upgrade |
| 20:28.10 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: Look in /tmp, but some of that might be necessary, though there should be nothing there after a reboot. |
| 20:28.11 | m5tr | rozie 100-500MB |
| 20:28.22 | Circuitsoft | You can clean up some space with "sudo apt-get clean" |
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| 20:28.34 | m5tr | Circuitsoft i used clean, only gave 40MB |
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| 20:28.48 | greenman | okay, so it seems that my mirror only has stable. How do I add a new dist without downloading new packages for existing dist? |
| 20:28.59 | greenman | (We want to keep the mirror "frozen") |
| 20:29.00 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: Please run df -h and show us the output. |
| 20:29.13 | m5tr | Circuitsoft what that command does? |
| 20:29.15 | greycat | dpkg wheezy sources.list |
| 20:29.15 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 20:29.18 | m5tr | i have low io performance |
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| 20:29.30 | at0m | m5tr: man df |
| 20:29.30 | Circuitsoft | m5tr: Just shows disk space usage by mount. |
| 20:29.43 | Jikan | Brigo: pointing this KMS and modeset=0 thing reminded me of a dirty nvidia trick which consists of adding "nomodeset" to grub cmdline. I removed it, ran update-grub and voilà! It's working like it used to now. |
| 20:30.02 | Jikan | The nvidia uninstaller really should do this e_e |
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| 20:30.07 | Brigo | Jikan, good for you! :) |
| 20:30.25 | greenman | greycat: if that was for me, where do you configure sources for apt-mirror? (I didn't set this up, sorry) |
| 20:30.26 | Brigo | Jikan, it didn't do it so it cannot undo it :) |
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| 20:31.25 | Jikan | Brigo: and thanks to you! (and to you too Circuitsoft) |
| 20:31.40 | Brigo | Jikan, you are wellcome :) |
| 20:31.51 | greycat | greenman: STOP using your local mirror. Use a normal one. |
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| 20:32.21 | jelly | !squeeze sources.list |
| 20:32.21 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <squeeze/updates> <squeeze-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 20:32.25 | m5tr | Circuitsoft at0m |
| 20:32.26 | jelly | greenman: ^^ |
| 20:32.26 | m5tr | filesystem size used avail use mounted on |
| 20:32.27 | m5tr | udev 10M |
| 20:32.27 | m5tr | tmpfs 76M 568K 75M |
| 20:32.27 | m5tr | (and few empty tmpfs) |
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| 20:32.30 | greenman | I found it, it's mirror.list |
| 20:32.37 | kaptan | Can you please tell me how can I get hosts file in debian jessie rescue environment in chroot mode |
| 20:32.58 | m5tr | filesystem size used avail use |
| 20:33.01 | greenman | greycat: I'd love to, would probably be easier, but I work for people who make the decisions. :/ |
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| 20:33.17 | m5tr | Circuitsoft at0m /dev/sda1 7.2G 6.7G 158M 98% / |
| 20:33.19 | Jikan | Brigo: well, if the nvidia installer isn't the one doing it, where's the culprit? I didn't manually add nomodeset to grub. And at install time, nouveau worked like a charm so I'm assuming there was no nomodeset at this time either |
| 20:33.37 | jelly | m5tr: use a pastebin site, like paste.debian.net |
| 20:33.53 | Circuitsoft | m5tr - 6.7G is a little on the big side for a full desktop install, but not huge. 8G is quite small for a modern Debian install with Desktop. |
| 20:33.54 | m5tr | jelly its only one line HDD. others are just temp (and empty) |
| 20:34.01 | Brigo | Jikan, i am using nvidia and i don't have nomodeset in my grub |
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| 20:34.14 | m5tr | Circuitsoft ok but need to remove some crap |
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| 20:34.22 | jelly | m5tr: also show the output of "cd; du -x / > du-x-root.txt; sort -n du-x-root.txt | tail -n 30" |
| 20:34.27 | rozie | m5tr: apt-get clean |
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| 20:34.35 | Circuitsoft | du -sh ~ |
| 20:34.40 | rozie | m5tr: localepurge (you need to install) |
| 20:34.45 | m5tr | rozie already used, gave 40MB (clean) |
| 20:34.48 | jelly | no, not -s, and not silly -h |
| 20:34.50 | greenman | okay, apt-mirror question. I want to leave the stable repo I have in place. If I comment out that line on the mirror.list, add a wheezy line, will that achieve what I want (downloading a wheezy mirror) |
| 20:34.52 | rozie | bleachbit is also useful |
| 20:34.54 | m5tr | rozie how to install |
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| 20:35.28 | m5tr | jelly is that much lines? the problem is this is on virtual machine and i cant copy paste output |
| 20:35.28 | rozie | apt-get install |
| 20:35.29 | Circuitsoft | jelly: Why not? It's very handy. |
| 20:36.00 | jelly | m5tr: can you pastebin a screenshot, then? |
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| 20:37.05 | jelly | Circuitsoft: -s only shows a total, instead of pointing the precise subdirectories with most usage. -h is unsortable (well, it used to be. sort tool got better) |
| 20:37.47 | Circuitsoft | jelly - I just wanted the answer to whether his home dir was a large portion of the space, or if it was just a clean install. |
| 20:37.55 | Circuitsoft | I'd dig down further from there. |
| 20:38.03 | jupelluri | How are wiki.debian.org pages licensed when there's no license at the bottom? |
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| 20:38.40 | jelly | Circuitsoft: you were asking the wrong question then |
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| 20:39.09 | x86iac | then do du -s ~/* |
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| 20:40.03 | jelly | x86iac: if du is going to traverse all those subdirs anyway, why not collect the most info out of it? |
| 20:40.24 | jelly | -s spends lots of time and gives imprecise answers |
| 20:40.29 | greenman | Thanks for the help. It pointed me in the right direction |
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| 20:40.49 | jelly | greenman: squeeze is still kind of supported, tho |
| 20:41.00 | jelly | greenman: read /msg dpkg squeeze-lts |
| 20:41.08 | greycat | jelly: apparently his bosses want him to upgrade something for some reason |
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| 20:41.23 | greycat | And he's not allowed to upgrade normally either. He has to use some broken-ass stupid local mirror. |
| 20:41.30 | greenman | jelly: yeah, what greycat said |
| 20:41.32 | jelly | I wasn't sure if that meant "release upgrade" specifically |
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| 20:42.02 | greenman | it's supposed to be a way to control what the systems have on them, so that they are all in sync |
| 20:42.10 | greenman | it's kinda silly, but I do what I'm told. |
| 20:42.11 | greycat | If it were me, I'd probably do a wheezy upgrade using the NON-local mirror, then the jessie upgrade using the stupid local mirror. |
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| 20:42.44 | greenman | greycat: ooh, that's a good idea. |
| 20:42.55 | greenman | same end result, lest shitty |
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| 20:43.44 | kaptan | how can I restore old kernel on jessie after an unsuccessful upgrade? |
| 20:43.57 | Brigo | kaptan, did you remove it? |
| 20:44.07 | jelly | greenman, greycat: I'd first do an upgrade of squeeze as it is. |
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| 20:44.13 | kaptan | no brigo |
| 20:44.22 | Brigo | then just remove the new one. |
| 20:44.32 | Brigo | and reboot. |
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| 20:44.52 | greycat | What kind of "unsuccess" are we talking about? |
| 20:44.54 | greenman | jelly: also a good idea |
| 20:44.59 | squinty | or reboot frm previous kernel via grub menu and then remove newer kernel |
| 20:45.01 | kaptan | I couldn't boot so I used a rescue environment |
| 20:45.18 | kaptan | Now I chrooted to my system |
| 20:45.19 | jelly | kaptan: do you have logs of that upgrade? |
| 20:45.43 | kaptan | I just used apt-get upgrade... |
| 20:45.58 | kaptan | Where is the log if any? |
| 20:46.25 | squinty | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:46.33 | Brigo | kaptan, /var/log/apt/ if you used apt |
| 20:46.43 | kaptan | Ok let me check |
| 20:46.54 | jelly | kaptan: apt keeps logs under /var/log/apt/ I think. dpkg also has /var/log/dpkg.log, but I hoped you ran it under script or something that saved terminal output |
| 20:47.09 | jelly | (like a sane, or paranoid, person does) |
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| 20:47.38 | squinty | mutters "well that leaves me out of the picture" |
| 20:47.51 | m5tr | rozie i tried to use localepurge. im afraid it destroyed my pc (locked, hdd) |
| 20:47.53 | x86iac | squinty: you can still help m5tr |
| 20:48.20 | m5tr | rozie i had 5MB ram left and just some pagefile |
| 20:48.21 | x86iac | highfives rozie |
| 20:48.53 | m5tr | it seems to use 100% hdd at "Processing triggers for man-db" but i cant even move mouse |
| 20:48.58 | kaptan | I found the log. |
| 20:49.02 | at0m | m5tr: sit it out |
| 20:49.09 | squinty | x86iac: was refering to this <jelly> (like a sane, or paranoid, person does) :P |
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| 20:49.17 | m5tr | at0m but i have 5MB physical ram left and cant move mouse |
| 20:49.22 | m5tr | (on debian) |
| 20:49.32 | at0m | m5tr: food for your firefox: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 20:49.36 | m5tr | ok sometimes mouse moves |
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| 20:50.47 | m5tr | at0m why pagefile works so crap on linux? it uses all ram until i use 90% then puts everything in pagefile |
| 20:51.04 | m5tr | on windows it puts unused programs to pagefile and used to RAM |
| 20:51.06 | greycat | m5tr: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 20:51.07 | at0m | m5tr: did you read that link already |
| 20:51.13 | m5tr | greycat at0m i opened link |
| 20:51.24 | m5tr | im saying it works crappy on linux |
| 20:51.26 | at0m | localepurge can take a while on first run, later it will hook into apt and clean only new additions |
| 20:51.32 | greycat | It's not crappy. It's efficient. |
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| 20:51.35 | somiaj | at0m: swap shoulnd't be used unless you are truly using all your ram. |
| 20:51.40 | m5tr | greycat windows is efficient |
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| 20:51.48 | greycat | Now you're just trolling. |
| 20:51.53 | at0m | orly |
| 20:52.01 | m5tr | somiaj ok but problem is linux puts everything into swap after i used RAM |
| 20:52.05 | greycat | somiaj: it will aggressively swap out some idle daemons before absolutely necessary |
| 20:52.08 | m5tr | windows puts only unused programs |
| 20:52.37 | at0m | i'll give you a couple minutes to load then read the page |
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| 20:53.21 | kaptan | Jelly: apt-get can't find linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64... this is the kernel I see in log. |
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| 20:53.43 | greenman | So, I went to go update from the public repo and I run into more problems. |
| 20:53.45 | greenman | sighs |
| 20:53.53 | greenman | any idea how to fix this: |
| 20:53.53 | greenman | ifup eth0 |
| 20:53.54 | greenman | ifup: failed to open lockfile /run/network/.ifstate.lock: No such file or directory |
| 20:54.05 | jelly | kaptan: if that's the old one, then you're out of luck because the latest package has the very same name. It replaced the old one. |
| 20:54.21 | m5tr | at0m i cant check much how i have free ram because im out of ram to run ram checking command |
| 20:54.42 | Syntex | well done, m8tr lol |
| 20:54.47 | m5tr | localepurge destroyed/exploded my PC |
| 20:54.50 | greycat | m5tr: then your answer is "none". |
| 20:54.52 | at0m | lolol |
| 20:54.53 | jelly | greenman: which version of ifupdown package is installed? dpkg -l ifupdown|tail -n 1 |
| 20:55.09 | wallbroken | which is the difference between a window manager and a desktop enviroment? |
| 20:55.15 | NoImNotNineVolt | m5tr: if you offered trolling classes, i would sign up. |
| 20:55.34 | greenman | jelly: iU ifupdown 0.7.53.1 amd64 high level tools to configure network interfaces |
| 20:55.43 | kaptan | Jelly how can I reinstall the kernel? I had just used "apt-get upgrade" and now my system doesn't boot... :( |
| 20:56.06 | greycat | kaptan: boot one of the older ones from the GRUB menu |
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| 20:56.08 | x86iac | greenman: probably just touch it? what was suppose to make it anyway>? |
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| 20:56.23 | kaptan | There is not any old version in grub menu |
| 20:56.34 | Syntex | recovery mode? |
| 20:56.35 | jelly | m5tr: chill out for a couple hours, you're not making any sense |
| 20:56.38 | greenman | x86iac: no clue, probably ifupdown |
| 20:56.55 | jelly | judd: v ifupdown |
| 20:56.56 | judd | Package: ifupdown on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.6.10; wheezy: 0.7.8; jessie: 0.7.53.1; sid: 0.7.54; stretch: 0.7.54 |
| 20:57.02 | jelly | greenman: ouch. |
| 20:57.09 | greenman | crap |
| 20:57.18 | jelly | greenman: you managed to install at least some jessie packages on top of that system |
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| 20:57.38 | greenman | I knew I should have snapshotted this, but he said, nope, not needed. :/ |
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| 20:57.52 | x86iac | m5tr: you should pay attention to greenman's stuff |
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| 20:58.05 | jelly | greenman: this can happen when your /etc/apt/sources.list contains deb lines for "stable" instead of a specific codename for a release |
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| 20:58.40 | greycat | jelly: he is also being forced (by managers) to use a local Debian mirror with unknown content |
| 20:58.41 | jelly | x86iac: don't feed the troll, m5tr has been quieted and told to stay away for a couple hours |
| 20:58.43 | greenman | jelly: luckily it's not my fault. Unfortunately I get to fix it. :P Can I downgrade somehow? |
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| 20:59.52 | jelly | greenman: maybe, but sometimes it's hard or has unexpected issues because downgrading packages is basically completely unsupported. |
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| 21:00.13 | greenman | The other guy is hardcore debian, he should have known better. Ah well, time to fix |
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| 21:00.26 | greycat | If it's *just* ifupdown then you probably can, but the odds thaat it's just one package you'll need to manually downgrade are not good. |
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| 21:00.39 | jelly | greenman: first, set up correct sources for squeeze (/msg dpkg squeeze sources.list), then try to downgrade (/msg dpkg partial downgrade) |
| 21:00.43 | greenman | jelly: so I have to piecemeal get it to wheezy somehow? |
| 21:01.26 | jelly | greenman: at this point I'd look at apt/dpkg logs and figure out how many and which packages got upgraded |
| 21:01.33 | greenman | I have the sources set up for squeeze (was going to do your recommendation of updating that before going to wheezy) |
| 21:01.51 | greenman | :q |
| 21:02.11 | jelly | ifupdown is somewhat important, if you want to have network access after boot |
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| 21:03.15 | greenman | jelly: apparently the only logging it does is the term.log file. So that's a bust |
| 21:03.31 | greenman | so I should try dpkg partial downgrade |
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| 21:05.24 | jelly | term.log is good |
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| 21:07.56 | greenman | How do I know what's good and what's not? Just make a list of all the package versions installed and check them one by one? |
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| 21:09.47 | jelly | greenman: go back in the log until you find a version that's actually from squeeze, I guess. Then see how much stuff got upgraded |
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| 21:10.35 | jelly | greenman: "apt-get update" refreshes apt's sense of packages available. "apt-cache policy packagename" tells you the version(s) available from currently configured repos. |
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| 21:12.14 | moozer | Just a non-techie question: do you know of a list of consultancy companies working with debian? |
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| 21:14.50 | greenman | jelly: weird. I count 24 packages but non of them are ifupdown... |
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| 21:15.07 | moozer | greenman: ifplugd? |
| 21:15.50 | petn-randall | moozer: I think the Debian web page has several listed, no idea how up-to-date they are. |
| 21:15.53 | greenman | Maybe I'm reading the log file wrong |
| 21:16.01 | greenman | I looked for the "Setting up" lines |
| 21:16.09 | greenman | is that not where the packages are installed |
| 21:16.37 | greenman | I ask because there was no "Setting up" for ifupdown, but there was a deconfigure statement of ifupdown and Unpacking |
| 21:16.42 | greenman | should I search for Unpacking? |
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| 21:16.54 | moozer | petn-randall: I checked - there are a couple of independent consultants. I am mostly looking for larger companies |
| 21:17.05 | petn-randall | moozer: https://www.debian.org/consultants/ |
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| 21:17.35 | petn-randall | moozer: In which country/language/timezone? |
| 21:17.49 | moozer | petn-randall: I'm in Denmark. |
| 21:17.53 | tlhonmey | I'm trying to figure out if there's any way to tell dpkg not to install a package if the dependencies aren't met... By default it seems to unpack and replace the old package, but then not configure it. The only thing I see in the manual really is to run with --no-act first and see what happens. |
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| 21:18.20 | tlhonmey | Am I just missing something obvious? |
| 21:18.34 | moozer | I am looking for companies for my academy to work with, so individual consultants if not what I am looking for |
| 21:19.17 | Brigo | tlhonmey, use gdebi. |
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| 21:19.52 | tlhonmey | Brigo: No GUI, trying to make an automated script. |
| 21:19.53 | Brigo | tlhonmey, for smart dependencies management you need aptitute or apt-get. |
| 21:20.06 | Brigo | tlhonmey, gdebi has no gui (afaik) |
| 21:20.12 | tlhonmey | Brigo: Was afraid of that. Guess I'll just do it myself then. |
| 21:20.29 | petn-randall | moozer: From the top of my head I only know of "Heinlein Support" doing that, they're based in Berlin, Germany. |
| 21:20.48 | tlhonmey | Brigo: Oh. Looks like it has a cli interface too. My machine pops up a neat little X window when I use gdebi. |
| 21:21.59 | moozer | petn-randall: If I look at redhat, they have a part of their site dedicated to partners and such. I was just wondering if debian had anything simila |
| 21:22.24 | tlhonmey | moozer: https://www.debian.org/partners/ |
| 21:22.44 | tlhonmey | There are a couple on there that might be the kind of consulting companies you're looking for. |
| 21:23.21 | cxd13 | how bad would it be to install the .deb for libreoffice 5 from their website? |
| 21:23.52 | moozer | yeah. There is a lot of UK and DE companies. I'll probably need to revise my plan and make them more international :-) |
| 21:25.11 | tlhonmey | cxd13: Last time I tried it it wasn't horrible, but it was a little annoying since it's actually a pretty big pile of packages, so there's some unpacking involved. |
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| 21:26.05 | tlhonmey | cxd13: Be sure to get the right version for whatever edition of Debian you're using. Otherwise it can get really messy really fast. |
| 21:26.20 | greenman | Okay so I've worn out my copy paste fingers |
| 21:26.24 | greenman | it's a LOT of packages |
| 21:26.26 | jelly | greenman: Unpacking seems fine, lack of Setting up means the installation failed before finalizing |
| 21:26.52 | greenman | so could I try get ifupdown back to normal and then when I have networking try to downgrade? |
| 21:26.54 | tlhonmey | cxd13: Personally I prefer to pull source packages from testing or sid if possible for that kind of thing. It's often less headache. |
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| 21:27.10 | jelly | greenman: something like that |
| 21:27.46 | cxd13 | tlhonmey: there are only two versions in .deb format, for 32 and 64 bit architechtures |
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| 21:28.32 | greenman | I tried to do this: |
| 21:28.33 | greenman | 16:10 < jelly> greenman: "apt-get update" refreshes apt's sense of packages available. "apt-cache policy packagename" tells you the version(s) available from currently configured repos. |
| 21:28.37 | jelly | moozer: the french one Freexian seems to do quite a bit of work and employs a good number of debian devs |
| 21:28.52 | greenman | and of course because I have no network, it says that installed is the same version as candidate |
| 21:28.55 | tlhonmey | cxd13: They're probably built for stable then, and likely to work even if you're using testing. |
| 21:29.01 | jelly | (on a part-time basis, but still ;-) |
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| 21:29.22 | tlhonmey | cxd13: I don't know of a good way to test it short of installing it to see. |
| 21:29.28 | jelly | greenman: bit of a catch-22 there, innit |
| 21:29.44 | moozer | jelly: It is the one with Hetrzog doing the LTS thing. Might be relevant |
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| 21:29.56 | moozer | (I spell poorly) |
| 21:29.58 | jelly | moozer: exactly that one. |
| 21:30.21 | cxd13 | tlhonmey: ya i use stable. i will give it a try |
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| 21:30.52 | cxd13 | had to do the same with minitube because the version in debian stable is broken |
| 21:30.55 | SixtyFold | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:30.55 | SixtyFold | help me edit this so i can use the speakers to play music and the headphones to say play a tutorial? |
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| 21:32.12 | tlhonmey | cxd13: On my machines I tend to configure testing as a source repo and then pull from it manually when I need something out of it. It usually works pretty well unless there are a lot of dependency upgrades necessary. |
| 21:32.24 | jelly | greenman: boot a liveusb/livecd, set up network, mount and chroot into debian? |
| 21:33.21 | greenman | jelly: I think something like that is my only option |
| 21:33.39 | greenman | I'm going to let the guy know that it's borked, maybe he's have some clever fix or something |
| 21:33.53 | jelly | greenman: or set it up manually with "ip" or "ifconfig" and "route" |
| 21:33.57 | SixtyFold | what's a really good picture viewer for debian? |
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| 21:34.18 | cxd13 | SixtyFold: what DE? gwenview is really nice |
| 21:34.25 | at0m | SixtyFold: one that comes with your gnome/kde/... |
| 21:34.51 | SixtyFold | im using mutter, ldm, xorg |
| 21:34.54 | SixtyFold | im not using a DE |
| 21:34.54 | at0m | i like gwenview, but it's kde so lots of depends if you dont kde |
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| 21:35.04 | SixtyFold | that's why i need to install one |
| 21:35.16 | MDTech-us[phone] | Hello, I am having trouble installing Debian on a laptop with pre-installed windows 8. |
| 21:35.38 | Circuitsoft | SixtyFold: I actually just use ImageMagick/display. I know I'm strange... |
| 21:35.38 | cxd13 | SixtyFold: gwenview if you don't mind the dependencies. you can install it with --no-install-recommends |
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| 21:36.01 | at0m | ,v pornview |
| 21:36.02 | judd | Package: pornview on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.2pre1-11 |
| 21:36.17 | at0m | does vids and pics like gwenview |
| 21:36.19 | arahael | How do I swap caps and ctrl on the console? |
| 21:36.37 | SixtyFold | thanks |
| 21:36.40 | arahael | I thought dpkg-reconfigure woudl do this? |
| 21:36.41 | jelly | greenman: it's borked alright, but if you didn't have previous experience w/ debian you couldn't have helped it |
| 21:36.45 | rabbitear | man xmodmap (if using x) |
| 21:37.10 | at0m | arahael: ^ |
| 21:37.12 | jelly | at0m: and was apparently removed from debian after squeeze |
| 21:37.32 | at0m | jelly: yea i wonder why, and kinda miss it. |
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| 21:37.41 | arahael | rabbitear: Wasn't it better to use /etc/defaults/keyboard? |
| 21:37.43 | at0m | it was pretty light for what it did |
| 21:38.10 | jelly | uses gliv and it's not "really good" |
| 21:38.53 | MDTech-us[phone] | According to a guide I found, I created a new 80GB partition for debian and formated the existing efi partition (104 MB) and set it to mount point /boot/efi. After hitting continue, It says ot cannot find a file system. |
| 21:39.13 | at0m | jelly: it's in sid, too, so it seems: https://packages.debian.org/sid/pornview |
| 21:39.29 | jelly | MDTech-us[phone]: formatted the existing efi partition? |
| 21:39.37 | MDTech-us[phone] | "Could not detect file system." |
| 21:39.39 | at0m | oh only m68k |
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| 21:40.08 | MDTech-us[phone] | Yea. To replace it with grub |
| 21:40.18 | jelly | MDTech-us[phone]: did it not contain data for any currently installed OSes? |
| 21:40.22 | MDTech-us[phone] | I hate the windows loader |
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| 21:40.42 | MDTech-us[phone] | it only contains the windows loader |
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| 21:41.06 | jelly | and now you can't boot anything |
| 21:41.09 | TTT | hi, I am running a wireless AP with hostapd. I wish to limit access to wifi at certain time periods (working hours) for certain MAC addresses. What's the best way to do that? MAC ACLs in Hostapd? iptables? |
| 21:41.10 | MDTech-us[phone] | not the actual OS. Lol |
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| 21:41.27 | MDTech-us[phone] | No. That is not the problem |
| 21:42.09 | MDTech-us[phone] | the dabian installer thinks the efi partition does not have a file syatem |
| 21:42.09 | jelly | AFAIK grub-efi installs next to already-present stuff in /grub/efi, it's not needed (or really sane) to wipe the current contents |
| 21:42.10 | x86iac | TTT what capabilites as you want are in the wireless router itself? |
| 21:42.23 | MDTech-us[phone] | *system |
| 21:42.43 | TTT | x86iac, the router is a debian box running hostapd? What do you mean what capabilities? |
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| 21:42.46 | Paterus | hello |
| 21:42.49 | Paterus | I have 1 problemo |
| 21:42.53 | MDTech-us[phone] | should I continue as is? |
| 21:42.55 | jelly | MDTech-us[phone]: which filesystem type did you format it as? |
| 21:43.08 | TTT | x86iac, I want to configure it to disallow a certain android phone from using net at working hours |
| 21:43.28 | MDTech-us[phone] | Fat32 |
| 21:43.29 | x86iac | you don't have a REAL wireless AP involved? |
| 21:43.44 | jelly | MDTech-us[phone]: ok, that's good |
| 21:43.47 | MDTech-us[phone] | btw. The disk is GPT |
| 21:43.51 | TTT | x86iac, nope, my AP is a debian box, fully under my control |
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| 21:44.04 | Paterus | I want to load debian but when is loading non eufi it says isolinux.bin corrupt or missing I just extracted the thing to the partition fat32 on my usb drive so what's going on? |
| 21:44.13 | MDTech-us[phone] | should I just continue and hope for the best? |
| 21:44.23 | x86iac | then if the android phone has a static ip or static mac you can use iptables |
| 21:44.49 | TTT | x86iac, I think iptables can also block by MAC. How do I deal with time ranges? Use cron to change iptables rules? |
| 21:44.56 | hexnewbie | Back in the day, I used iptables -m time to prevent my SMS sender from sending me messages in the middle of the night. Works with MAC matches. |
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| 21:45.02 | jelly | MDTech-us[phone]: I suppose you don't have a backup of the partition you reformatted? |
| 21:45.07 | x86iac | you have just a wireless adapter attached and using hostap? (i'm jealous i tried a while back and it never got working) |
| 21:45.30 | MDTech-us[phone] | there is always the windows install disk |
| 21:45.31 | x86iac | TTT: using cron or atd sounds good |
| 21:45.32 | TTT | x86iac, yes, Qualcomm Atheros AR9285 |
| 21:45.38 | x86iac | nice |
| 21:45.49 | at0m | x86iac: it's rather easy, if the wifi chipset allows for it. |
| 21:45.52 | MDTech-us[phone] | a quick repair and its back |
| 21:45.58 | Circuitsoft | Paterus: Se your BIOS to boot UFI only (not legacy) |
| 21:46.06 | hexnewbie | TTT: There's no need for cron or atd, iptables can match based on the time of day |
| 21:46.14 | Paterus | Circuitsoft: i tried eufi too and nothing |
| 21:46.15 | TTT | it's a nettop box, foxconn nt-a3500 |
| 21:46.24 | TTT | hexnewbie, that's what I wanted to hear |
| 21:46.27 | Paterus | Circuitsoft: I don't; know why is doing that |
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| 21:46.37 | jelly | MDTech-us[phone]: I'd repair it that way, and just use it, there's enough space on it for the ~1MB grub-efi binary |
| 21:46.37 | TTT | I'll go try to get it done now that I know it can be achieved :) |
| 21:46.42 | Circuitsoft | Are you trying to boot from an install CD, or... |
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| 21:47.01 | hexnewbie | TTT: iptables -m time --time-start 00:00 --timestop 06:00 -m mac --mac-source xx:xx:xx:xx:xx:xx |
| 21:47.06 | Paterus | Circuitsoft: I renamed isolinux to syslinux but then renamed it back to isolinux yet it still wont' load |
| 21:47.13 | Paterus | Circuitsoft: from usb |
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| 21:47.30 | TTT | x86iac, I have ipv6 runinng on it as well, in London no less. Hard to find IPSs that do IPv6 but AAISP does it. But they do limit net usage during working hours... |
| 21:47.33 | Circuitsoft | Paterus: Install an EFI shell on the USB, then poke around until you can find GRUB. |
| 21:47.51 | Circuitsoft | Is there a /efi/ folder on the filesystem? |
| 21:47.55 | x86iac | hexnewbie: thanks for the iptables info .. i didn't know this |
| 21:47.59 | Circuitsoft | (Also, is the filesystem FAT32?) |
| 21:48.01 | Paterus | Circuitsoft: le me see |
| 21:48.09 | TTT | hexnewbie, thanks, that's a big help for me. |
| 21:48.34 | Paterus | Circuitsoft: where would itbe? I see the / of itandI see no ufi |
| 21:49.20 | Circuitsoft | Hmm. All the install/rescue disks I've used have used GRUB for EFI, and Syslinux/Isolinux for legacy. |
| 21:49.28 | TTT | ugh, SID isn't looking good at the moment. I wish I had time to help out with gcc5 upgrade... |
| 21:49.30 | hexnewbie | TTT: See man iptables-extensions for more info and time zone hurdles (default is UTC) |
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| 21:50.21 | x86iac | TTT: when you get it running come back and report if any other issues |
| 21:50.43 | Paterus | Circuitsoft: well my grub was working in legacy with the other installation but it had a read only partition so I couldn't rename isolinux to syslinux that's why I did it again |
| 21:51.36 | TTT | ok, I'll try to stay in #debian, but then again I'm about to mess with iptables on my router :) |
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| 21:52.09 | Paterus | i'm just gonna reextract the thing damit |
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| 21:53.43 | jelly | Paterus: how does a pristine image of debian-installer fail for you, why are you messing with the boot loaders at all? |
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| 21:55.08 | Paterus | jelly: cause of an manual |
| 21:55.19 | Paterus | jelly: it was guiding me so I can have persistence |
| 21:55.33 | Aethenelle | I seem to be running into an old bug... I have luks, dropbear, and busybox configured as in README.remote.gz with the only exception that both machines use a static IP. I finally got that to work but nothing is listening for the password at /lib/cryptsetup/passfifo ... |
| 21:55.39 | Paterus | jelly: and one of the steps was to rename isolinux folder and 2 files to syslinux |
| 21:55.41 | Aethenelle | Any ideas what i've messed up now? |
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| 21:55.58 | jelly | Paterus: oh, you want to run debian _from_ the stick? |
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| 21:56.31 | Paterus | jelly: yes a 2gb fat32 for debian and about 25gb for peristence |
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| 21:57.02 | jelly | Paterus: stupid question, why not just install debian on it? |
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| 21:57.40 | Paterus | jelly: could be |
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| 21:57.51 | Paterus | jelly: I'll try ok |
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| 21:59.16 | Paterus | jelly: I don't have other usb drive available to install it to I just want persistence |
| 21:59.31 | Aethenelle | is maybe the bug isn't that old...https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cryptsetup/+bug/595648 |
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| 22:00.22 | tlhonmey | Paterus: I think the net installer image has the ability to run entirely in memory, so then you could reformat your USB with a full install. Will work better in the long-run than just persistance anyway. |
| 22:00.33 | tlhonmey | Just don't use ext4. |
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| 22:01.29 | Paterus | tlhonmey: no ext4 for the usb or the net install? |
| 22:02.18 | tlhonmey | Paterus: Last time I checked, ext4 takes some assumptions about how the storage works that aren't always true on USB flash media, leading to significant data loss on such devices. |
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| 22:03.17 | tlhonmey | Paterus: Use either ext3 or btrfs. (Personally I go with btrfs with compression enabled. Makes it seem almost like a real disk drive when working with uncompressed files.) |
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| 22:05.36 | x86iac | you gotta still have noatime on usb flash? |
| 22:06.50 | tlhonmey | x86iac: Most modern flash drives are probably robust enough to handle it, but keeping writes to a minimum is still recommended for performance reasons. |
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| 22:07.41 | tlhonmey | x86iac: also, a filesystem designed for flash may still have benefits both for speed and for avoiding "hot spots" that wear out faster. |
| 22:08.02 | Circuitsoft | f2fs? |
| 22:08.10 | tlhonmey | Or nilfs2. |
| 22:08.31 | tlhonmey | Personally I like btrfs because you can dynamically add more storage to the pool when you need it for things like distupgrades. |
| 22:08.57 | tlhonmey | But it's not considered perfectly stable yet, so make your own decision there. |
| 22:09.34 | Paterus | tlhonmey: so back track rar file system you want me to use |
| 22:09.49 | Paterus | tlhonmey: why not ext4 again |
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| 22:10.11 | tlhonmey | Paterus: because ext4 on some flash devices will eat your data. |
| 22:10.31 | tlhonmey | Paterus: If you want, you can test it on your particular device. It does work on some of the better-quality ones. |
| 22:10.32 | Paterus | tlhonmey: yea I just read it again you are right! |
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| 22:11.17 | tlhonmey | Paterus: I'd recommend btrfs, or some filesystem that does in-line compression because that helps with the write-speed bottleneck quite a bit. |
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| 22:12.12 | TTT | hexnewbie, I assume -m time --time-start --time-end are not part of standard kernel, and I need to install packages like xtables-addons* in my Debian system? |
| 22:12.24 | tlhonmey | Paterus: btrfs is my personal preference because, if you run out of space for some operation, you can plug in another disk and tell it to use both. Just be sure to slim everything down again before you turn it off or booting gets tricky. (not impossible, just tricky). |
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| 22:13.49 | Paterus | tlhonmey: btrfs seems unknown to me |
| 22:13.50 | hexnewbie | TTT: Huh. That surprises me. I use my own kernel so I never noticed. :/ |
| 22:14.16 | tlhonmey | Paterus https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page |
| 22:14.40 | wallbroken | what is "debian system base utilities" ? |
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| 22:15.14 | TTT | hexnewbie, weird, even with xtables I get this error... |
| 22:15.22 | TTT | iptables -A INPUT -m time --time-start 00:00 --timestop 06:00 -m mac --mac-source 1:1:1:1:1:1 -J DROP |
| 22:15.28 | TTT | iptables v1.4.21: unknown option "--time-start" |
| 22:15.29 | jhutchins | wallbroken: A package. You can use dpkg to list it's contents. |
| 22:15.51 | wallbroken | jhutchins, how to know the name of the package? |
| 22:16.05 | hexnewbie | TTT: That's my bad, there is no dash infix |
| 22:16.10 | jhutchins | where did you get the phrase you're asking about? |
| 22:16.11 | CatelynFem | how can I best disable xfce, in an easily reversible manner? |
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| 22:16.14 | somiaj | TTT: I notice you have a timestop vs time-start, maybe it is a typo |
| 22:16.18 | jhutchins | wallbroken: where did you get the phrase you're asking about? |
| 22:16.30 | hexnewbie | TTT: I didn't copy-paste the first argument :) |
| 22:16.33 | jhutchins | CatelynFem: Why do you want to disable it? |
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| 22:16.49 | TTT | hexnewbie, got it, I think now the time rules work, let me just finish it off |
| 22:16.49 | wallbroken | jhutchins, during netinstall, there are things you can install, and in there there is "system base utilities" |
| 22:17.01 | wallbroken | i want to know what it does contain |
| 22:17.03 | Paterus | tlhonmey: should I go for flexible usb sticks? |
| 22:17.10 | Paterus | tlhonmey: or just usb sticks? |
| 22:17.15 | hexnewbie | TTT: Yeah, just be aware that this is in UTC, so it might stop the internet at the unexpected 00:00 :) |
| 22:17.31 | tlhonmey | Paterus: I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 22:17.32 | jhutchins | wallbroken: It could be a task or group of package, I'm not sure how to tell with the installer. Problem is, most of us run the installer less than once every two years. |
| 22:17.32 | TTT | will do, I'm just trying to get the syntax right first |
| 22:17.33 | CatelynFem | jhutchins, because it results in a fatal error (hardware or bios related) and I don't need it at this time, but i would like to troubleshoot it in the future |
| 22:17.46 | x86iac | if he is going to stop the internet i better download some movies quickly then |
| 22:18.00 | jhutchins | CatelynFem: Are you going to use some other desktop, or are you going to work from the console? |
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| 22:18.12 | CatelynFem | jhutchins, console |
| 22:18.25 | wallbroken | jhutchins, so, is there some way to know what it is and what is in? |
| 22:18.44 | jhutchins | CatelynFem: You can stop the dm - usually lightdm with xfce (sometimes gdm or ?dm). |
| 22:18.50 | Paterus | on the https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst it gives me those options |
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| 22:19.20 | jhutchins | CatelynFem: If yo need it to survive a reboot you can disable it with rcconf, or if in systemd/jessie you need to change the boot target. |
| 22:19.27 | jhutchins | I keep forgetting that. |
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| 22:20.17 | jhutchins | CatelynFem: systemctl set-default multi-user.target |
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| 22:20.26 | cxd13 | jhutchins: is rcconf not relevant now with systemd? |
| 22:20.46 | jhutchins | cxd13: Uncertain, there might be legacy handling, but I think it's obsolete now. |
| 22:21.00 | CatelynFem | jhutchins, much appreciated. yes, I am using systemd/jessie |
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| 22:21.20 | arahael | Curiously - /etc/defaults/keyboard only seems to have gotten applied when rebooted. |
| 22:21.25 | cxd13 | jhutchins: is there a frontend for systemd services like rcconf? it was pretty handy |
| 22:21.29 | jhutchins | cxd13: It appears to still exist and will probably manage those programs that have not adapted to systemd yet. |
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| 22:21.36 | CatelynFem | jhutchins, is there a way to backup the target first for when I want to restore it? |
| 22:22.11 | jhutchins | CatelynFem: to re-enable it's just sysctlset-default graphical.target. |
| 22:22.17 | jhutchins | with a space. |
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| 22:23.18 | jhutchins | CatelynFem: systemctl set-default graphical.target |
| 22:24.32 | CatelynFem | much appreciated. yay. |
| 22:24.33 | arahael | Lesson learned: When disabling caps lock, first ensure that caps lock is not selected. |
| 22:24.48 | at0m | is there some place that lists ethX devices, like /dev/disk/ ? |
| 22:25.23 | at0m | this machine has 5 of them, and i'm kinda lost which where what |
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| 22:25.52 | jhutchins | at0m: ifconfig -a or /dev/eth? |
| 22:26.35 | jhutchins | at0m: Hm, not /dev/ |
| 22:26.39 | at0m | jhutchins: ifconfig only shows lo |
| 22:26.45 | at0m | nothing in /dev/ indeed |
| 22:26.58 | x86iac | at0m: then that is your only interface |
| 22:27.07 | at0m | yeye |
| 22:27.22 | jhutchins | at0m: If that's the case, you don't have divers loaded for anything else. |
| 22:27.31 | arahael | at0m: What device? |
| 22:27.32 | jhutchins | at0m: lspci might show one. |
| 22:27.40 | at0m | jhutchins: got the firmware as per lspci |
| 22:27.48 | at0m | for the intel and realtek cards |
| 22:27.56 | TTT | x86iac, hexnewbie I think I got it working, iptables -I INPUT 1 -m time --weekdays Mon,Tue,Wed,Thu,Fri --timestart 08:00 --timestop 17:00 -m mac --mac-source 1:1:1:1:1:1 -j DROP |
| 22:28.00 | TTT | and same for ipv6tables |
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| 22:28.02 | arahael | Unusual to have such difficulty with the intel. |
| 22:28.15 | jhutchins | at0m: dmesg should tell you why they're not loading. |
| 22:28.21 | at0m | jhutchins: made an interfaces file with dhcp for eth[0-4] |
| 22:28.25 | Paterus | ok guys I'm gonna do something parANORAML |
| 22:28.27 | jhutchins | at0m: dmesg | less |
| 22:28.43 | Paterus | I'm gonna do both put the installation media and theinstalled debian on the same stick :D |
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| 22:28.49 | jhutchins | at0m: modprobe <driver> |
| 22:28.49 | x86iac | TTT nice |
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| 22:28.53 | hexnewbie | TTT: Glad to hear it was of help :) |
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| 22:29.18 | jhutchins | Paterus: I believe you may be mistaken. |
| 22:29.25 | TTT | hexnewbie, x86iac- you were of great help |
| 22:29.34 | Paterus | jhutchins: I only have 1 usb drive |
| 22:29.45 | Paterus | and no empty cds or dvds |
| 22:30.19 | jhutchins | Paterus: You could put a live image on the stick. They are usually better optimised for USB than a normal installation. |
| 22:30.34 | x86iac | TTT you better check to see if the mac address of the device can be spoofed with ifconfig ether before you finalize this ;) |
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| 22:30.47 | jhutchins | Paterus: You can also look at pendrivelinux.com and make your own. |
| 22:30.49 | jhutchins | !live |
| 22:30.50 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. See <live firmware> |
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| 22:31.02 | jhutchins | Paterus: Another option^ |
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| 22:32.49 | TTT | x86iac, the user is not technically sophisticated, so I'm not too worried. Besides, the AP is secured with WPA2 already, so it's not free for all anyway |
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| 22:33.12 | at0m | macchanger for android? haven't seen one yet |
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| 22:35.43 | Paterus | jhutchins: thank you for remainding me |
| 22:35.51 | Paterus | jhutchins: I was thinking on netbootin |
| 22:36.24 | Paterus | jhutchins: or dd |
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| 22:39.43 | jelly | Paterus: get, buy, borrow a second usb stick, and write the installer image to it in a supported way (NOT unetbootin, use cp as the install guide suggests) |
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| 22:41.33 | Syntex | root@vazity:/home/andreas/downloads# spotify |
| 22:41.33 | Syntex | spotify: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by spotify) |
| 22:41.34 | Paterus | jelly: it will give me an error that can't find isolinux.img |
| 22:41.37 | Syntex | how do i fix this? |
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| 22:41.49 | Syntex | i have tried googling for several hours, but i still cant fix it |
| 22:41.58 | Syntex | still getting that error |
| 22:42.19 | at0m | Syntex: do not run anything as root that does not explicitly require it. spotify is not one of those apps. |
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| 22:42.51 | Syntex | welll it still wont open |
| 22:43.09 | Syntex | im still getting that error, at0m |
| 22:43.22 | jelly | Paterus: the unmodified image, written directly to the stick? weird. |
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| 22:43.50 | at0m | Syntex: i don't know about spotify. i only know about 'running as root'. |
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| 22:44.13 | Syntex | Yeah, well. I had to try. I normally do not run things as root. I don't want my system crashing. |
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| 22:44.35 | Syntex | crashed* |
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| 22:46.33 | at0m | jhutchins: none of the interfaces shows up in dmesg. puzzled. will remove them physically, review bios, then build up again. |
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| 22:48.43 | Bashmetim | I'm looking for a guru who can help me partition about 120 hard drives with a preseed.cfg file in a debian installation |
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| 22:49.41 | Bashmetim | I don't need to do anything fancy, just reformat an existing partion and mount it as root - |
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| 22:50.39 | at0m | Bashmetim: 120 drives? |
| 22:50.53 | Bashmetim | It's for a few computer labs |
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| 22:52.16 | phy1729 | Bashmetim: just blowing away everything? |
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| 22:52.43 | Bashmetim | phy1729 Yep! Users files are stored elsewhere |
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| 22:53.38 | Bashmetim | I just want to tell partman "Take /dev/sda6, format it as ext4, set it as the install root" |
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| 22:54.26 | Bashmetim | But it looks like it's made to seek out free space... Can I just specify a partition to nuke? |
| 22:54.48 | phy1729 | iirc the default just clobbers everything |
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| 22:57.16 | Bashmetim | Well, I don't want to wipe the whole disk, just sda6 specifically. There's another partition that runs windows that I should leave alone. |
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| 22:58.19 | phy1729 | ah never done that |
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| 22:58.31 | Bashmetim | The labs all dual boot Win7/Ubuntu 10.04, and I want to turn the ubuntu into debian jessie |
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| 22:59.31 | Bashmetim | I'm sure there's a lot of ugly politics behind this, but is debian ever going to move away from the debian installer and pick up anaconda or something? |
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| 23:00.47 | sussudio | so... my ISP merged with UPC and said that nothing was going to change... now they've silently dropped services like homespace and usenet for new users. if homespace gets dropped for everyone, i'm not going to pay for a server to host debstats... |
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| 23:01.50 | pycoderf1 | helloo debian poeple. anyone here set up moinmoin on debian before? i am having some trouble as there is no clear documentation |
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| 23:03.13 | sussudio | moinmoin does not appear to be a package. |
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| 23:05.13 | Bashmetim | https://moinmo.in/MoinMoinPackages/DebianLinux Claims there's a python-moinmoin package? |
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| 23:07.44 | jelly | sussudio: fun... how much resources do your debstats eat? |
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| 23:09.14 | pycoderf1 | i know of the package BUT that article i very out of date |
| 23:09.23 | pycoderf1 | and i am using nginx and uwsgi |
| 23:10.29 | sussudio | jelly: i don't really know, since i don't use a counter or anything. |
| 23:11.18 | sussudio | the html files are 15MB in total or something. |
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| 23:11.53 | sussudio | what i'm saying is that ziggo are lying bags of shit. |
| 23:12.08 | jelly | they're an ISP, what did you expect |
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| 23:12.21 | jelly | (disclaimer: /me works at an ISP) |
| 23:12.52 | sussudio | i expect that when they say that nothing is going to change, they don't pull this behind the users' backs. you can't even find that they've cancelled these services unless you dig deep into their site. |
| 23:13.03 | sussudio | you know, in the cellar, behind the tiger, etc. |
| 23:13.26 | jelly | bewares of |
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| 23:14.44 | Bashmetim | "Usenet? What's that? I bet we don't have anyone using it... into the bin it goes!" |
| 23:14.51 | Bashmetim | ^ Is that the gist of it? |
| 23:15.30 | sussudio | also, prices were guaranteed not to change. they went up a month later. |
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| 23:16.56 | Bashmetim | sounds shit... maybe go toss a molotov into one of their office building? |
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| 23:18.08 | at0m | sussudio: lucky you. my isp got bought by an american. |
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| 23:19.04 | sussudio | so did mine. a few times over. |
| 23:19.21 | beastwick987 | so I would like to proudly give props to current debian stable |
| 23:19.26 | sussudio | it's their plaything now. i think mitt romney's evil empire was involved at some point. |
| 23:19.28 | beastwick987 | I didn't expect things to work so smoothly |
| 23:19.42 | at0m | o/ |
| 23:19.45 | beastwick987 | especially with some very current software |
| 23:20.25 | beastwick987 | like blackmagic drivers and obs, well done. I just have one issue. I can't get sound to work in my chroots. |
| 23:21.52 | arahael | Nobody needs sound in chroots. :) |
| 23:22.56 | at0m | nobody needs more than 64k of memory |
| 23:22.58 | Bashmetim | ... I'm actually still hoping to flag down some advice in getting partman to format a specific existing partition and set it as the install root (in a preseed script) |
| 23:23.14 | arahael | sussudio: A guarantee not to raise prices? Sounds like bad business. |
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| 23:25.00 | beastwick987 | welp i'm def not upgrading my win 8.1 box to 10 |
| 23:25.09 | beastwick987 | holy spyware batman |
| 23:26.07 | Bashmetim | What's with microsoft marketing themselves like they're getting friendlier and friendlier when they just get worse and worse? |
| 23:26.27 | beastwick987 | idk but frankly they're taking advantage of the opensource community |
| 23:26.29 | rabbitear | upgrade to debian or anyother thing |
| 23:26.35 | beastwick987 | they're "opening" some of their tech |
| 23:26.41 | beastwick987 | so what, we'll give back to them for free? |
| 23:26.45 | rabbitear | people just love to give money way |
| 23:26.46 | beastwick987 | I don't get it |
| 23:26.49 | rabbitear | they love it |
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| 23:27.00 | rabbitear | microsoft is sooooooooooo poor |
| 23:27.16 | beastwick987 | they're basically going to get free work done |
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| 23:27.43 | rabbitear | not from me, says the king |
| 23:28.00 | at0m | may i invite you to #debian-offtopic ? |
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| 23:28.08 | rabbitear | you may |
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| 23:28.20 | beastwick987 | well my 8.1 is in a vbox now. I think i'll copy the VDK and have one 10 version just so I have it. |
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| 23:28.32 | beastwick987 | but I didn't want to use it anyway |
| 23:28.35 | beastwick987 | there's no reason to |
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| 23:28.49 | beastwick987 | (i have teh winblows for teh games) |
| 23:29.05 | rabbitear | you're not gonna die from it |
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| 23:29.27 | rabbitear | from not using windows |
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| 23:29.37 | beastwick987 | rabbitear that's why I don't hah hah |
| 23:29.59 | beastwick987 | rabbitear I used it for unity 3d, thats what brought me back, but I think im going to install UDK4 on Linux |
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| 23:31.12 | rabbitear | yeah, no linux version, no 'me playing any DoD games' |
| 23:31.30 | beastwick987 | DoD? |
| 23:31.50 | RoyK | has been using months making windows users like stuff like vim |
| 23:32.13 | rabbitear | DoD put out a bunch of games, to find people that are good at 'logic' that uses unity 3d .. |
| 23:32.37 | beastwick987 | lol... |
| 23:32.51 | rabbitear | RoyK: since 1997 :) |
| 23:32.52 | beastwick987 | Have they heard of Dice and Monster.com? |
| 23:33.10 | rabbitear | I haven't |
| 23:33.12 | RoyK | rabbitear: something like 1994 :) |
| 23:33.19 | rabbitear | nice! |
| 23:33.21 | beastwick987 | That's basically saying let's find smart people who don't have the propper education hopefully so we can higher them for a lot less. |
| 23:33.28 | rabbitear | good job RoyK |
| 23:33.31 | rabbitear | :) |
| 23:33.34 | rabbitear | just to say |
| 23:33.52 | RoyK | :) |
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| 23:34.32 | rabbitear | beastwick987: that 'sounds' like a solid idea tho.. |
| 23:34.38 | RoyK | rabbitear: even windows guys tend to like vim when they get used to it |
| 23:34.56 | beastwick987 | rabbitear it is for the company |
| 23:34.59 | RoyK | rabbitear: and then they tend to like the commandline better - and start hating all those popups |
| 23:35.09 | beastwick987 | rabbitear I don't think that's bad tho, don't get me wrong. |
| 23:35.12 | RoyK | rabbitear: et cetera et cetera ad infinitum |
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| 23:36.15 | at0m | RoyK: according to local survey, most used app on windows is facebook. |
| 23:36.18 | rabbitear | RoyK: its more natural to whats really happening on -any- hardware |
| 23:36.35 | rabbitear | at0m: nice |
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| 23:36.50 | arahael | I actually find I prefer notepad++ on windows. |
| 23:37.01 | arahael | Somehow, vim seems less useful without excelent console support, tmux, etc. |
| 23:37.06 | RoyK | at0m: it's not an app, it's a webpage |
| 23:37.08 | blackflow | Hello. What is needed for sysctl.conf to take effect on reboot in Jessie? |
| 23:37.10 | at0m | 80% says they're on facebook, 30% uses the internet |
| 23:37.19 | at0m | RoyK: ikr |
| 23:37.31 | rabbitear | I don't know how to use other editors to edit (mostly) anymore |
| 23:37.56 | RoyK | 120% say they know something about computers |
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| 23:38.22 | rabbitear | trying to use eclipse even Rstudio or anything else, always spend hours trying to setup some minimum vi keys |
| 23:38.32 | Syntex | i need cloak, debhelper |
| 23:38.43 | at0m | Syntex: wrong channel |
| 23:38.49 | at0m | and the others probably,t oo |
| 23:38.50 | RoyK | rabbitear: rstudio with vim? |
| 23:38.52 | Syntex | oh not again, my bad |
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| 23:39.16 | RoyK | never understood much about R :P |
| 23:39.25 | arahael | rabbitear: emacs with viper mode is just painful, though. |
| 23:39.27 | rabbitear | RoyK: I mean I like Rstudios, I wasn't that successful, because I'm not using Rstudios right now... still tried |
| 23:39.31 | pycoderf1 | is jessie still testing? |
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| 23:39.47 | rabbitear | RoyK: its been about 2 years, I forgot what I was trying to do/how I did that |
| 23:40.21 | arahael | pycoderf1: See /topic |
| 23:40.21 | RoyK | those scientists - it's R or scipy or FORTRAN or whatever |
| 23:40.26 | rabbitear | RoyK: I like Rstudios over eclipse and netbeans, I know these are not related, just speaking of IDE's in general |
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| 23:41.12 | RoyK | I tend to like those that use scipy - they seem to know a bit more |
| 23:41.13 | pycoderf1 | i dont have questions about testing just if the release is still the testing branch. |
| 23:41.17 | RoyK | at least some of them |
| 23:41.28 | rabbitear | I'm facinated with R, but I'm not that great with staticists ... I maen, I don't know the terms, etc.. |
| 23:42.58 | rabbitear | RoyK: but its not necessary for everybody to know everything, just be accepting or willing to explore.. |
| 23:43.11 | RoyK | obviously, yes |
| 23:43.16 | rabbitear | RoyK: I mean everbody doesn't really need to know everything. |
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| 23:43.48 | RoyK | just did a little test, taking a shower while talking on the phone on his new Sony Xperia Z3+ |
| 23:44.14 | rabbitear | RoyK: there's a guy over here, at these hackathons that just knows R... when he works with any other web guy (because thats mostly what they do) he makes some pretty cool stuff.. in a fast way\ |
| 23:44.22 | RoyK | rabbitear: exactly, but I'm keen to know everything |
| 23:44.36 | rabbitear | RoyK: lol (about the phone) |
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| 23:44.56 | rabbitear | RoyK: good :) |
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| 23:45.21 | RoyK | btw, I gave the phone a good wash afterwards and it still works |
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| 23:45.46 | RoyK | first IP68 phone I've seen without plugs |
| 23:46.19 | RoyK | (and that's not IPv6) |
| 23:46.22 | blackflow | What is needed for /etc/sysctl.conf to take effect on reboot in Jessie? |
| 23:46.40 | RoyK | blackflow: vi |
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| 23:47.52 | rabbitear | RoyK: I have to look up IP68 ? I'm so lazy tho! |
| 23:48.14 | RoyK | blackflow: usually, you'd want to put those changes under /etc/sysctl.d/XX-something.conf where XX is a number |
| 23:48.15 | rabbitear | RoyK: actually I want to do.. at some point, on linux, a type of amazon echo |
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| 23:48.47 | blackflow | RoyK: they are, stock Jessie, but the entries in sysctl.conf don't have an effect until I run them manually |
| 23:49.03 | RoyK | blackflow: then file a bug report |
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| 23:49.33 | xvilka_ | hi! If you haven't seen this yet https://tlhp.cf/astra-linux-violate-gpl/ |
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| 23:54.29 | RoyK | xvilka_: that happens all too often - and then - it's russian, isn't it? |
| 23:54.39 | xvilka_ | RoyK: yes |
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| 23:55.16 | RoyK | xvilka_: do you understand russian? |
| 23:55.34 | xvilka_ | RoyK: yep |
| 23:55.58 | RoyK | xvilka_: where from? |
| 23:56.19 | xvilka_ | RoyK: from Russia :D |
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| 23:56.46 | RoyK | xvilka_: ok :) |
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| 23:57.13 | RoyK | is from Norway |
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| 23:59.05 | xvilka_ | RoyK: also, imho, origin country of the violation doesn't matter, since (in theory) preventing such violation improve both parts |
| 23:59.26 | RoyK | xvilka_: indeed |
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