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| 05:55.19 | Paterus | how do I turn off the harddrives so they rest in debian? windows does it automatically with power saving but how do I do it on debian |
| 05:56.12 | somiaj | Paterus: if they aren't spinning down then something is constantlly reading form them. |
| 05:57.02 | somiaj | thinkgs like cron, logfiles and the likes will keep the hd from spinning down |
| 05:57.55 | Paterus | somiaj: they're hot and nothing is reading from them they're not mounted |
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| 05:59.18 | somiaj | you can check hdparm for the spindown time, but if not file systems are mounted and it isn't being read, I don't know what the issue could be |
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| 08:09.52 | _mel_ | Hi. i have kernel messages who won't be written to /var/log/dmesg. how can force that? |
| 08:10.18 | jelly | _mel_: are they written to /var/log/kern.log? |
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| 08:11.22 | _mel_ | jelly: yes. i've found it there |
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| 08:13.20 | _mel_ | cat anyone tell me, whatcauses this stacktrace http://pastebin.com/uHENJTDF |
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| 08:15.36 | _mel_ | jelly: does kernel output logging to /var/log/dmesg end after the boot process is finished? |
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| 08:21.36 | angs | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:25.27 | jelly | angs: then the aaaa::0/64 interface would be useless |
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| 08:25.56 | Guest9965 | is there a recommended method for building custom kernels here? |
| 08:26.25 | jelly | angs: you want the ip command, specifically the "ip route" part |
| 08:26.46 | angs | jelly, thank you |
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| 08:48.08 | Wicked | How do I install a .pcf font on Jessie ? I put my font in the .fonts directory and ran fc-cache -fv, and I saw this line : /home/xxx/.fonts/termsyn: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs. Apparently, fc-cache doesn't detect this file as a font... Could someone help me, please ? |
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| 08:54.58 | fireba11 | ... another system upgraded to jessie :-) |
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| 08:56.00 | Wicked | *Reposting* : How do I install a .pcf font on Jessie ? I put my font in the .fonts directory and ran fc-cache -fv, and I saw this line : /home/xxx/.fonts/termsyn: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs. Apparently, fc-cache doesn't detect this file as a font... Could someone help me, please ? |
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| 09:00.12 | jelly | Wicked: that's a bitmapped font, to be used by X server's own internal bitmapped font server. Inside "/home/xxx/.fonts", run "mkfontdir". Then make sure /home/xxx/.fonts is in X server's FontPath, add it with "xset fp+ /home/xxx/.fonts" and run "xset fp rehash" to make the X server reread mkfontdir-generated fonts.dir file. |
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| 09:07.02 | arahael | has now gotten his touchpad disabled - awesome, so now he can type, and then manually enable it with ^= |
| 09:07.32 | arahael | fireba11: I'm very happy with jessie. :) |
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| 09:10.33 | ws2k3 | does the sshd server has an error log? sshd is installed but when i restart it it says unknown instandse and ssh is not reachable |
| 09:11.11 | jelly | ws2k3: logs to /var/log/auth.log by default |
| 09:11.26 | jelly | !ask |
| 09:11.26 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 09:12.09 | jelly | ws2k3: are you using Debian or Ubuntu? You asked exactly the same question here and in #ubuntu-server |
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| 09:13.35 | ws2k3 | jelly i am using debian wheezy but the sshd server in debian and ubuntu are working allmost the same that why i asked it there aswel |
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| 09:13.57 | arahael | ws2k3: It works almost the same under cygwin on windows as well. |
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| 09:16.39 | urgenthelp | hi all unable to install the zenoss core on ubuntu 14 on an aws ec2 instance i followed this link but 8080 port is not running http://idroot.net/tutorials/how-to-install-zenoss-on-ubuntu-14-04/ |
| 09:16.52 | urgenthelp | do i need to install apachw2 |
| 09:17.00 | urgenthelp | apache2* |
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| 09:17.25 | jelly | urgenthelp: we can't support Ubuntu in here. Ask in #ubuntu or #ubuntu-server. |
| 09:17.29 | jelly | !ubuntu |
| 09:17.30 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 09:18.12 | urgenthelp | no they r saying ask in debian n now u saying ubuntu ? |
| 09:18.16 | jelly | ws2k3: an exact copy/paste of the restart command and output might be useful |
| 09:18.18 | urgenthelp | help me ? |
| 09:18.20 | urgenthelp | pls |
| 09:18.59 | jelly | urgenthelp: lol, that line about #debian wasn't for you, it was for ws2k3 |
| 09:19.12 | ws2k3 | service ssh restart stop: Unknown instance: ssh stop/pre-start, proces 5016 |
| 09:19.34 | jelly | that's weird. |
| 09:19.39 | urgenthelp | ok ok |
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| 09:19.46 | ws2k3 | when i run the same command again it says service ssh restart stop: Unknown instance: ssh stop/pre-start, proces 6394 |
| 09:20.15 | jelly | ws2k3: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l openssh-server libc6 | tail -n 2 |
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| 09:20.17 | ws2k3 | jelly i already tryed to apt-ger purge openssh-server and reinstall it, that didnt work |
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| 09:21.17 | jelly | ws2k3: also, "ps -ffp 6394". Put it all in one pastebin. |
| 09:22.13 | ws2k3 | jelly i cant pastebin cause i'm working over IPMI cause ssh is not working ^^ libc6 and openssh-server are both installed and proces 6394 does not exsist |
| 09:23.01 | jelly | ws2k3: show a screenshot, then |
| 09:23.24 | jelly | I want to see exact versions first |
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| 09:23.46 | jelly | use picpaste.com or imgur.com or whatever |
| 09:23.51 | ws2k3 | libc6 is 2.15 and openssh 1:5 |
| 09:24.18 | jelly | ws2k3: please show the actual output. |
| 09:24.20 | ws2k3 | jelly why are the version exacly relevant cause i have 100 servers running ssh with exacly the same debian verion |
| 09:25.22 | jelly | ws2k3: because the cause might be mixing releases, and because you asked in two places so I want to make sure you're actually running Debian |
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| 09:27.18 | jelly | also because that output from "service" is very unusual for wheezy (I've never seen that before) |
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| 09:33.28 | fireba11 | arahael: upgrade postgres 9.1 to 9.4 took several hours though ... migration the db cluster .. and some hickups with apache 2.4 and old config from 2.2 but nothing unexpected |
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| 09:37.52 | octavian | hi, what packages does the "Standard system utilities" contain? |
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| 09:45.48 | ws2k3 | already got it fixed jelly |
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| 09:48.25 | jelly | ws2k3: good |
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| 10:12.33 | sk4nz | Hello everyone. Any people having problems with mariadb and systemd on jessie ? When I start my clustered daemon with "service mysql start" or "/etc/init.d/mysql start", systemd says that my daemon failed to start. Which IS FALSE ! My daemon is really running and working. When I do "service mysql stop" systemd returns true but the daemon isn't stopped ..... Any tips ? Even with using legacy sysV scripts from /etc/init.d systemd is spawning... |
| 10:14.09 | sk4nz | I'm quite horrified systemd returns false when my daemon is really launched.. |
| 10:14.32 | jelly | mysql server scripts used to be rather unreliable with stopping stuff, perhaps that's not fixed yet |
| 10:14.38 | petn-randall | sk4nz: What is the output of 'systemctl status mariadb'? â http://paste.debian.net |
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| 10:15.04 | petn-randall | sk4nz: also `dpkg -l 'mariadb*'` would be good. |
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| 10:20.11 | sk4nz | petn-randall: I'm using the galera version of mariadb, here is the paste: http://paste.debian.net/290882/ |
| 10:21.31 | sk4nz | Guys from #systemd says the problem is debian-related |
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| 10:21.41 | jil | hello |
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| 10:24.37 | babilen | sk4nz: Line 21 is pretty telling (you would get that if you were to run "systemctl start mariadb" too |
| 10:24.41 | babilen | ) |
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| 10:29.33 | petn-randall | sk4nz: The init script is returning 1, which indicates an error. If you restart mysql, does it change the PID? |
| 10:30.34 | petn-randall | sk4nz: Either way, there's something fishy with the init script of that package. Since it's not from Debian, we don't support it. You can however debug the issue and report the error to upstream. |
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| 10:31.46 | sk4nz | petn-randall: Okay thx |
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| 10:39.57 | babilen | judd: v mariadb-server |
| 10:39.58 | judd | Package: mariadb-server on amd64 -- jessie: 10.0.16-1; stretch: 10.0.19-1; jessie-security: 10.0.20-0+deb8u1; sid: 10.0.20-3 |
| 10:40.16 | babilen | sk4nz: Why not ^^^ |
| 10:40.21 | babilen | ? |
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| 10:55.16 | ChrisH | galera is the "new" mysql-cluster, so differs from mariadb-serve |
| 10:55.30 | wCPO | Can I built a deb package, from a package installed on my system? |
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| 10:56.34 | ChrisH | wCPO: you might find the origianl deb in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 10:59.43 | wCPO | ChrisH: Already checked, but I found it on canonical oem repostoiry.. |
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| 11:08.32 | AbuKhadija | good mornign (atleast semi-morning) |
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| 11:10.23 | AbuKhadija | I got so fed up with trying to get Pulseaudio working yesterday that I purged it totally and went ALSA. Totally new world and 5.1 sound works perfectly! |
| 11:10.45 | AbuKhadija | also no more wine stealing soundcard |
| 11:11.24 | babilen | PA sits on top of ALSA, and: What is your question? |
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| 12:00.26 | mosez | hi |
| 12:00.41 | mosez | is there some kind of backports repository where i can get a more current version of couchdb? |
| 12:01.53 | Stummi | if its not in bpo you probably have to build it yourself |
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| 12:02.24 | mosez | even sid got only 1.4 and wheezy 1.2 |
| 12:03.01 | katyucha | which version you want ? if > to the repo => build yourself |
| 12:03.42 | mosez | something like 1.5 like it is available for ubuntu :( |
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| 12:04.33 | Stummi | mosez, you try to add the ubuntus couchdb PPA to your repositories, at your own risk, and see what happens. Or update the deb source for debian |
| 12:04.36 | jelly | ,v couchdb |
| 12:04.38 | judd | Package: couchdb on amd64 -- wheezy: 1.2.0-5; sid: 1.4.0-3+b1 |
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| 12:04.53 | jelly | Stummi: that's a horrible idea |
| 12:05.41 | mosez | stummi: i think i dont want to enable ubuntu repositories :( |
| 12:06.04 | petn-randall | mosez: Doesn't upstream provide their own repository? |
| 12:06.05 | jelly | using their deb-src repo and rebuilding for debian would be a slightly less terrible idea |
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| 12:07.42 | mosez | petn-randall: only an ppa for ubuntu |
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| 12:07.48 | Stummi | jelly, or using debians deb-src and replacing the upstream source with a newer version |
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| 12:09.04 | mosez | ok, so it looks like there is no deb package directly available with a more current version |
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| 12:10.15 | babilen | Yet another example how not having PPAs harms Debian unfortunately. There really is no reason why upstream cannot also make Debian packages available. |
| 12:11.41 | petn-randall | babilen: I don't think PPAs are any easier to set up than a Debian repo. Only thing is that Ubuntu provides hosting space for it. |
| 12:12.07 | jelly | Stummi: there's "/msg dpkg uupdate" for that |
| 12:12.14 | NerdTaco | you can add ppas in debian |
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| 12:12.35 | abrotman | NerdTaco: which may or may not work, and may or may not cause problems in the future. They're not supported., |
| 12:12.39 | petn-randall | babilen: (I'm talking about the server side obviously) |
| 12:12.51 | jelly | NerdTaco: PPA build infrastructure specifically caters to ubuntu releases, they do not build stuff against debian |
| 12:13.04 | NerdTaco | abrotman, they are unsupported, and they don't work out of the box |
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| 12:13.32 | abrotman | ... |
| 12:14.14 | NerdTaco | but, i mean, you add them, you switch the release |
| 12:14.25 | NerdTaco | and they work good enough, however unsupported |
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| 12:16.07 | babilen | petn-randall: Well, it is just that launchpad makes it *very* easy to build packages for Ubuntu and a lot of upstreams simply use it and thereby simply provide "Ubuntu only" packages without ever actively deciding "no Debian". If launchpad would build for Debian too or if Debian were to run a similar service a lot of upstreams would happily provide packages for Debian too. |
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| 12:30.08 | deepy | I don't get this, I can ssh to 192.168.177.203 just fine, but when I open it in a browser I'm told there's no route to host |
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| 12:34.39 | petn-randall | deepy: What does 'ping 192.168.177.203' say? |
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| 12:35.31 | deepy | That I got a good connection, it's less than 0.1ms |
| 12:36.24 | petn-randall | deepy: And 'wget http://192.168.177.203'? â http://paste.debian.net |
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| 12:37.11 | deepy | Connecting to 192.168.177.203:80... failed: No route to host. |
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| 12:38.55 | petn-randall | deepy: I guess your router/firewall has some configuration problems. |
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| 12:47.26 | unborn | deepy, in your local network it should work without problem |
| 12:47.49 | unborn | deepy, are you sure apache or whatever web server you are using is up and running? |
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| 12:48.04 | deepy | unborn: do note, the message is no route to host |
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| 12:48.47 | unborn | deepy, are you running your own dnses there? sorry have no idea how your server setup looks like |
| 12:49.01 | deepy | I'm connecting by ip |
| 12:50.15 | unborn | deepy, does this error msg give you any number in it? I think its iptables |
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| 12:52.11 | unborn | deepy, if you have no iptables rules at all then you may try this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7227845/localhost-not-working-in-chrome-and-firefox -> 6 Answers |
| 12:52.23 | deepy | It's not localhost, it's a different computer |
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| 12:53.14 | unborn | deepy, oh okay - I got it.. well check your iptables then |
| 12:55.44 | unborn | deepy, if you installed some kind sort of web server with just default settings on your local network on other machine you should be able to connect to it without any issue. The only issue you should have is root user on ssh, well cannot call this an issue but that is the only one thing which shouldnt work by default |
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| 12:58.02 | unborn | just verify iptables - if anything there you can drop it and restart your web server services and it should work. If you run your own dnses and its still not working then have look there.. also if you have misconfiguration in hostname and hosts on that server your loopback on your local net may not work correctly |
| 12:58.21 | unborn | I had issues like that but it was all due to my miss and hits years back.. |
| 12:59.33 | yafw | hello, I would like ask you guys (if you have time) if you don't know why my debian jessie shows after grub colored stripes (ubuntu and arch doesn't do it), so I'm confused - debian normally works, but it's annoying... I tried use 'nomodeset' and 'quiet splash' in grub config, but it wasn't helpful, maybe I miss some graphics driver (my graphics card is intel HD 4000)... Have anyone experience with that? Thanks, and sorry for my english. |
| 13:00.11 | unborn | as petn-randall noted start by having look at your firewall on that server (iptables) then have look at the router |
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| 13:39.17 | droopy | fdisk -l does not display any output |
| 13:42.00 | AbuKhadija | then yout have a problem :P |
| 13:43.14 | droopy | When I try to create a new partition it says 'No free sectors available' |
| 13:43.17 | droopy | how do I address this? |
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| 13:44.52 | hid3 | Hello. Any ideas what kernel option does 'mptctl' kernel module belong to? |
| 13:44.54 | AbuKhadija | do you already have partitions on that drive=? |
| 13:45.06 | droopy | Yes, 3 partitions |
| 13:45.51 | droopy | Why is something as simple as increasing a virtual machine's HDD like rocket science? |
| 13:46.15 | Brigo | ,kconfig mptctl |
| 13:46.16 | judd | Searching for 'mptctl' in jessie kernel config gives no results. |
| 13:46.49 | TJ- | droopy: is the 'disk' a physical disk or a (virtual) block device - it doesn't have to have partitions |
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| 13:47.05 | droopy | It is a virtual device |
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| 13:47.20 | Brigo | hid3, is nptctl related to fusion? |
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| 13:47.27 | droopy | I am resizing it as per this guide (https://gist.github.com/christopher-hopper/9755310), which instructs to create a new primary partition |
| 13:47.29 | hid3 | probably yes |
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| 13:48.29 | Brigo | ,kconfig fusion |
| 13:48.30 | judd | Searching for 'fusion' in jessie kernel config gives FUSION=y FUSION_SPI=m FUSION_FC=m FUSION_SAS=m FUSION_MAX_SGE=128 FUSION_CTL=m FUSION_LAN=m. |
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| 13:48.42 | Brigo | may be FUSION_CTL=m ? |
| 13:48.46 | hid3 | fusion_ctl probably! |
| 13:48.52 | hid3 | thanks, will give it a try! |
| 13:49.07 | Brigo | hid3, np, good luck :) |
| 13:49.12 | TJ- | droopy: then maybe it is just a virtual block device |
| 13:49.41 | TJ- | droopy: as in, just has a file-system (or LVM VG) on it |
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| 13:55.37 | arktvrvs | atheism |
| 13:55.44 | arktvrvs | lol oops. my bad |
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| 13:58.35 | kqr | hello! this might be the wrong place to ask, but I'm giving it a shot anyway. I'd like to run a `find' command that searches through the entire drive *except* a few directories I specify with full path. is this possible? |
| 13:59.05 | kqr | I have read the find man page but I have a hard time understanding it |
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| 13:59.43 | quantic | kqr: I don't *think* that find has an exclude, but you could pipe the results out to grep and exclude any result that starts with certain paths. |
| 14:00.05 | quantic | find / -name blah | grep -v '/not/this/path' |
| 14:00.30 | quantic | or egrep -v '^\/not\/this\/path' to be more precise. |
| 14:02.20 | kqr | the problem is that find spends a lot of time searching through a few big directories where I know the result isn't |
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| 14:02.52 | kqr | there is -prune, but I'm still not sure how it works |
| 14:03.06 | kqr | well, I've seen an example with one directory, but none with many directories |
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| 14:04.05 | Wicked | Does something like apt-cache search exist but for searching in the packages installed on the computer ? |
| 14:04.26 | centrx | Wicked, You can search by files with dpkg -S |
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| 14:04.58 | arktvrvs | find / | grep ^notthese | find ... |
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| 14:05.21 | Wicked | centrx: Thanks a lot. Also, is there a way to remove automatically all the packages that this command outputs me ? |
| 14:05.49 | unborn | meh no one wonders why he had problems with apache in virtual machine meh.. what a wasted time. |
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| 14:06.03 | unborn | nevermind |
| 14:06.14 | centrx | Wicked, Yes, with xargs and cut |
| 14:06.42 | centrx | Wicked, Something like dpkg -S xxx |cut -f1 -d: |uniq |xargs dpkg --purge |
| 14:06.42 | arktvrvs | or awk :> |
| 14:07.20 | Wicked | centrx: Something like, or can I try it without nuking my system ? :x |
| 14:07.42 | centrx | Wicked, well, see what it outputs without the last clause |
| 14:07.53 | centrx | Wicked, that's the list of packages that will be purged, then you can add the last clause |
| 14:07.55 | karlpinc | ?karlpinc |
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| 14:08.17 | kqr | arktvrvs, still has the problem of taking like hours to search through directories where I know it's not |
| 14:08.45 | kqr | but I may have figured -prune out |
| 14:08.52 | Wicked | centrx : linux-headers-3.16.0-4-common, linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64... Not really what I want, ha. |
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| 14:14.39 | vicente | hi there! any knows any how to for install electricsheep on debian 8 with cinnamon?? it's is possible??? thx in advance |
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| 14:19.32 | Brigo | vicente, what's that?, anyway: |
| 14:19.36 | Brigo | ,v electricsheep |
| 14:19.37 | judd | Package: electricsheep on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.7~b12+svn20091224-1+b1; wheezy: 2.7~b12+svn20091224-1.1 |
| 14:20.00 | sergios | Hi. I am running Debian testing. My desktop is gnome and I would like to switch to kde. But I want to do it in a clean way - I want to remove all the gnome packages, so that the system has no extra packages than when I would have if I had installed the Debian system with the Kde desktop instead. The problem is, I don't have enough space to install kde at once, I need to remove gnome and some other packages first. |
| 14:20.10 | vicente | i'm using debian 8 with cinnamon |
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| 14:21.20 | Brigo | vicente, there is no electricsheep package for jessie, sorry. |
| 14:21.32 | vicente | jum!!!! |
| 14:21.41 | vicente | oks thanks in advance |
| 14:21.44 | Brigo | sergios, how do you install gnome? |
| 14:21.53 | Brigo | vicente, yw :) |
| 14:22.43 | sergios | I didn't explicitly install gnome through apt. I got it while installing the system by choosing checking the desktop checkbox. |
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| 14:25.31 | Brigo | sergios, then remove task-gnome-desktop and then apt-get autoremove. |
| 14:26.06 | sergios | And then, after I install kde-standard, will I have to do much tweaking to start into kde? |
| 14:26.10 | Brigo | apt-get clean should get you some more free space. |
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| 14:26.37 | SynrG | hm, though vicente is gone, i had wondered about the electricsheep removal myself, so looked it up at #711284 |
| 14:26.38 | Brigo | sergios, i don't think so. |
| 14:26.38 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/711284 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: electricsheep -- RoQA; orphaned, RC-buggy, licence problems»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-06-06; last modified: 2014-03-18. |
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| 14:26.45 | sergios | I now have 779 mb, need some more to go |
| 14:26.55 | SynrG | i mention it to satisfy anyone else's curiosity |
| 14:27.11 | Brigo | sergios, try first apt-get clean. |
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| 14:27.35 | sergios | Brigo: thanks, I got my extra bits of free space by running apt-get clean already. |
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| 14:28.05 | jhutchins | !purekde |
| 14:28.08 | Brigo | sergios, it deleted the .deb packages already downloaded and installed. |
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| 14:28.56 | sergios | I wish I could safely delete more of the deb files even of some not installed ones |
| 14:28.57 | Brigo | they arent removed by default, so you can reinstall them without download them again. |
| 14:29.36 | Brigo | sergios, apt-get clean delete them all. |
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| 14:29.51 | sergios | ah, ok, thanks Brigo :) |
| 14:30.33 | sergios | I removed task-gnome-desktop but subsequent apt-get autoremove doesn't suggest removing anything |
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| 14:32.54 | Brigo | sergios, the remove gnome-core and try apt-get autoremove |
| 14:32.55 | Walex | sergios: the manual/automatic installed thing is not totally trivial to understand. |
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| 14:33.17 | tMH | hello Gurus and wannabes:) |
| 14:33.19 | Walex | sergios: I have written a detailed overview on how to deal with it using aptitude |
| 14:33.37 | sergios | Walex: Where could I see your writing? |
| 14:33.42 | tMH | one question. I have RK3188 devices with debian 3.0.36 installed there. NO gui. |
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| 14:33.52 | tMH | how can I change _resolution_ of that console? |
| 14:34.05 | tMH | I _know_ about setfont, but I need to change resolution of console... |
| 14:34.09 | tMH | how to ? |
| 14:34.16 | tMH | thanks in advance! |
| 14:34.16 | sergios | after romeving gnome-core, apt-get autoremave still wants to remove no packages. |
| 14:34.19 | Walex | sergios: http://www.sabi.co.uk/blog/13-one.html#130414 |
| 14:34.36 | tMH | and no GRUB, too. |
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| 14:35.39 | sergios | I haven't used aptitude much before, but I'll try |
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| 14:37.37 | jhutchins | tMH: The kernel will take a resolution parameter |
| 14:37.50 | jhutchins | tMH: I believe that works with the framebuffer system. |
| 14:38.15 | sergios | What do you think about this: sudo apt-get autoremove --purge gnome* ? |
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| 14:38.44 | jhutchins | sergios: That is the usual recommendation. |
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| 14:41.10 | adabo | Brigo, o/ |
| 14:41.25 | Brigo | hey! the kicked adabo! :D |
| 14:41.40 | adabo | "kicked"? D: |
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| 14:44.43 | Brigo | adabo, you was kicked because of flooding yesterday. don't you? :) |
| 14:45.20 | beastwick987 | Does anyone here perchance have a Gigabyte Gaming 7 mobo and has been able to get Wake On Lan working? There are no options to enable it in my BIOS and it is cryptically hinted at that it supports it. When I try to enable WOL in Linux it suggests that it isn't supported by my network interface. |
| 14:45.36 | r6ku | adabo: were you able to get your stuff working? |
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| 14:47.13 | hexnewbie | beastwick987: When you run ethtool on your interface, what are the "Wake Up" modes listed? |
| 14:47.32 | sergios | Thank you for help. I seem to have got a more or less cleaner system and more than two gigabytes of free space. Getting kde-standard now |
| 14:48.04 | tMH | jhutchins - ok, how do I set up needed resolution? |
| 14:48.06 | beastwick987 | hexnewbie, I will be able to answer that much later today when I am home. Is it simply ethtool <interface name> ? |
| 14:48.09 | tMH | in console ? |
| 14:48.13 | Brigo | r6ku, yes, more or less with lighdm, gdm3 failed. |
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| 14:48.58 | hexnewbie | beastwick987: Yes. And then the man page tells you what these modes mean, and how you can enable them. Usually by: ethtool <ifname> wol <mode> |
| 14:49.16 | sergios | I am tracking testing now. I got confused after recent updates. Does it mean I am tracking Sid or what? |
| 14:49.19 | r6ku | Brigo: so the problem was gdm and not the nvidia drivers? ok o.0 |
| 14:49.28 | Brigo | r6ku, both. |
| 14:49.36 | sergios | like debian 8.1? |
| 14:49.45 | hexnewbie | beastwick987: That's the only thing that Linux can do to enable wol, AFAIK. Are you sure it isn't already enabled? I have a new motherboard, and ethtool can't change much, but WOL is always working. |
| 14:49.53 | Brigo | the new drivers works out finally, but then gdm3 failed and he has to install lightdm. |
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| 14:50.25 | hexnewbie | beastwick987: Except after power failure... It seems that power failure breaks WOL on all my motherboards. But have you tried just waking the computer up? |
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| 14:51.42 | beastwick987 | hexnewbie, Thanks I'll give it a try later. I'm just so confused because there isn't an explicit option to enable it in the BIOS, but it says if I disable ErP then WOL will be disabled. http://pastebin.com/bHVwy4GR I tried waking up via magic packet through DDWRT locally and nothing happened. I'll have to try it again, maybe I'll atempt remotely he |
| 14:51.42 | beastwick987 | re and be surprised. |
| 14:51.42 | mtn | Sergios, 8.1 is stable, not testing |
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| 14:51.55 | Sergios | mtn: Which one is testingn, then? |
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| 14:52.08 | mtn | Sergios, testing. or stretch |
| 14:52.09 | Brigo | Sergios, there is no version for testing. |
| 14:52.35 | beastwick987 | hexnewbie, I think it may just always be on. |
| 14:52.41 | mtn | Sergios, look at your sources. then you will know what you are running. you really ought to know! |
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| 14:52.51 | Brigo | the new release will be created from testing, but testing itself will never be released and get a version. |
| 14:53.07 | Sergios | mtn: at my sources I have testing everywhere |
| 14:53.28 | mtn | Sergios, then you are running testing. maybe you should not be though |
| 14:53.34 | hexnewbie | beastwick987: That's my suspicion, but try ethtool as well. Hope you get it working. I had one motherboard where it didn't work at all, and I needed it. :( Well, not really, I could call a guy to bring the computer up for me, but... |
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| 14:54.05 | adabo | r6ku, Yeah. Brigo helped me through to the very end :) LAs he said, it was gdm3 failed. Still isn't perfect though because the my monitor is 144hz and the desktop is about 60hz (which bothers my eyes some). |
| 14:54.14 | Sergios | mtn: All I want is to have concrete release names in my sources instead of "testingE" |
| 14:54.23 | beastwick987 | hexnewbie, lol, it definitely comes in handy when things are slow and I want to do things on my home box. |
| 14:54.27 | mtn | Sergios, as I said: stretch |
| 14:54.38 | Brigo | adabo, are you using gnome? |
| 14:55.00 | Sergios | thank you, mtn |
| 14:55.05 | adabo | I'm in windows at the moment. I have a morning routine that I haven't set up in linux yet ;) |
| 14:55.13 | Sergios | mtn: I'll replace "testing" with "stretch" |
| 14:55.16 | hexnewbie | adabo: Is that a CRT? |
| 14:55.28 | adabo | Brigo, I'm using that lighdm that you had me install. |
| 14:55.35 | Brigo | adabo, but you are still using gnome, aren't you? |
| 14:55.38 | adabo | hexnewbie, LCD LED |
| 14:55.59 | adabo | Brigo, Hmm, well, I'm not sure. Wasn't it removed? I don't know. |
| 14:56.08 | Sergios | Stretch is the next release after jessie, right? |
| 14:56.14 | Brigo | adabo, you don't install other DE |
| 14:56.19 | Brigo | Sergios, it will be. |
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| 14:56.42 | Sergios | thanks. |
| 14:57.13 | adabo | hexnewbie, VG248QE |
| 14:57.19 | hexnewbie | adabo: Strange. After I switched to LCD, I couldn't see a difference between 60 Hz and higher rates. Are you sure it's not the LED that's blinking? (There was a laptop that did that, to conserve power, and it was deadly) |
| 14:57.20 | adabo | Brigo, I don't? |
| 14:57.31 | r6ku | gives Brigo a cookie |
| 14:57.33 | Brigo | adabo, i hope ( i don't use it) gnome has a display manager you can use to configure your screen. |
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| 14:57.59 | adabo | hexnewbie, In windows the difference between 60-144 is like night and day. You most certainly will notice. |
| 14:58.09 | Brigo | wonder what he did to get that cookie :D |
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| 14:58.27 | Brigo | i have to go now. |
| 14:58.32 | adabo | hexnewbie, I'm not sure about debian because I don't know how to set higher refresh rates. |
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| 14:58.42 | hexnewbie | adabo: Hm. I will have to trust you on that. :) Just a small idea - is it still bad at full brightness? |
| 14:58.44 | Brigo | have a nice day, guys :) |
| 14:58.52 | adabo | o/ Brigo |
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| 14:59.15 | adabo | hexnewbie, Not sure what you mean by "still bad". |
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| 14:59.44 | hexnewbie | adabo: Well, does it still bother your eyes :) |
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| 15:01.01 | adabo | hexnewbie, ahh, well if you're still here, I'll check for you when I boot back into deb. |
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| 15:01.38 | hexnewbie | adabo: Yeah, I am curious. :) |
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| 15:02.53 | adabo | hexnewbie, Are you using a 144hz monitor too? |
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| 15:03.03 | woffs | open-vm-tools doesn't compile with jessie 3.16.0-4-amd64 kernel |
| 15:03.27 | beastwick987 | Does anyone here have experience with PCI passthrough in virtual machines? |
| 15:03.36 | Sergios | I emerged kde-standard. How do I enable it now? |
| 15:04.14 | Sergios | I mean, I do startx and it works. I just need to enable it at startup. |
| 15:04.16 | woffs | "incompatible types when assigning to type âuid_tâ from type âkuid_tâ" and some others |
| 15:04.17 | hexnewbie | adabo: No, which is why I am curious if there's really a difference (outside of movie-watching, where it would obviously reduce screen tearing, and allow you to watch 48 fps videos) |
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| 15:07.16 | adabo | hexnewbie, Here's my approach to the hz debate: Our eyes really don't see in "fps". Watching a movie in 24fps doesn't bother us. We just detect motion. Especially fluidity. Our eyes are really good at that. When something is static on your LCD, there is no difference (because of the nature of LCD), but when drag a window across then your eyes sense. |
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| 15:07.59 | hexnewbie | adabo: Well, so you see no difference when you're reading text? |
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| 15:08.04 | adabo | If your scrolling text a lot, you will notice. If you play games a lot, you will notice. |
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| 15:08.50 | woffs | solved. open-vm-tools-dkms instead of open-vm-dkms |
| 15:08.59 | hexnewbie | adabo: I don't have smooth scrolling in Iceweasel, so probably it wouldn't help me. :) |
| 15:09.00 | adabo | hexnewbie, If the text is just static, no, you can't notice. LCD is like, infinite hz/fps because the light stays on constantly. |
| 15:09.30 | hexnewbie | adabo: Yeah, sorry then, I misunderstood you then. That's why I asked about a CRT :) |
| 15:09.50 | adabo | hexnewbie, CRT would certainly be different on a static image. |
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| 15:10.15 | adabo | hexnewbie, Their is "flicker" whereas in LCD, there is 0. Simply because of the nature of how LCD works. |
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| 15:10.50 | adabo | hexnewbie, But I play lots of video games, and I lower the settings as much as I can to maximize frames per second. |
| 15:11.04 | Fjorgynn | :D |
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| 15:11.18 | adabo | hexnewbie, The more frames, the higher the fluidity, and it's much easier on my eyes. |
| 15:12.04 | hexnewbie | adabo: At work we had an LCD with flicker in Linux. There was a driver to set the blinking rate of the leds, and in *nix that was a problem. I don't remember how it was fixed, because I wasn't the one to use it |
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| 15:13.02 | adabo | hexnewbie, Why on earth would a driver purposely blink an LED? xD |
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| 15:13.40 | hexnewbie | adabo: Unlike CFL, LED cannot change brightness, so they need to flicker to be darker. I made the mistake of buying dimmable LED light bulbs for my room, and now I get headaches from them. :) |
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| 15:14.14 | adabo | hexnewbie, :( |
| 15:14.32 | hexnewbie | adabo: And not because I can see the flickering, it's because I can *hear* it - it produces an audible noise. |
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| 15:15.29 | adabo | hexnewbie, Oh my. That just takes it to a whole new level xD |
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| 15:17.38 | hexnewbie | adabo: Yeah, if you're interested, the problem is dubbed "LED backlight flicker" and can be fixed by changing the PWM modulation of the i915 GPUs :) |
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| 15:18.07 | hexnewbie | If it weren't for Arch Linux's wiki, where would we get documentation for our Debian systems? :) |
| 15:18.31 | adabo | hexnewbie, lol |
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| 15:23.37 | unborn | hexnewbie, you all would be on debian wikis :) |
| 15:24.34 | unborn | hexnewbie, i did redesigned wikis but for some unknown reason debian team did not respond... as usual.. I left them. |
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| 15:25.40 | adabo | Is it common knowledge, or something, that the debian wiki is, eh how should I put it, less than impressive? |
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| 15:26.51 | hexnewbie | unborn: But the Debian Wiki doesn't tell me how to alter my LED backlight PWM modulation, I have to go to Arhc's. I've gotten more issues solved at bugs.debian.org, than at wiki.debian.org |
| 15:27.29 | petn-randall | adabo: It's pretty huge, so there will always be things that are horribly out of date. Most of it is (IMO) quite ok. You're always welcome to improve it. |
| 15:28.47 | droopy | how do I install php 5.2.16? apt-get only offers 5.3.3 |
| 15:28.55 | adabo | petn-randall, I can't I don't know how to wiki |
| 15:29.23 | adabo | petn-randall, Plus, I've only been using Linux since this weekend so I don't know a gosh darn thing about linux ;) |
| 15:29.40 | jhutchins | adabo: The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
| 15:29.40 | hexnewbie | droopy: You can't install older versions of PHP on Debian from the official mirrors. And 5.2 would be horribly outdated and insecure. |
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| 15:30.08 | IdleGandalf | you can of course compile it yourself... |
| 15:30.10 | droopy | hexnewbie: I know. My website runs on 5.2. I need to install it on a VM so I can simulate an upgrade |
| 15:30.19 | unborn | hexnewbie, that was whole point.. to not crossing anywhere.. I guess debian have some strict unmerited rulez or something - since no reply from them past 18 months |
| 15:30.53 | adabo | jhutchins, Oh my O___O That's impressively detailed. |
| 15:31.38 | jhutchins | adabo: You have some misunderstanding about video. Film has a "frame rate" which is the rate at which new images are displayed. With either analog or digital video, the rate at which the screen is redrawn or "refresh rate" is the equivalent to frame rate. |
| 15:31.43 | hexnewbie | unborn: You can compile it yourself to simulate an upgrade. |
| 15:31.59 | droopy | IdleGandalf: Where can I find a tutorial on compiling and installing PHP? |
| 15:32.00 | hexnewbie | unborn: Sorry, that was for droopy |
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| 15:32.45 | hexnewbie | droopy: Beware 5.2 doesn't even compile on newest Debian versions, but I guess you're with Squeeze, so it might :) |
| 15:32.52 | droopy | hexnewbie: I have the .zip of PHP 5.2 |
| 15:33.14 | droopy | hexnewbie: you're correct about Squeeze |
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| 15:33.44 | adabo | jhutchins, I wouldn't say I have a "misunderstanding" perse. I just don't explain it in much detail. Film actually doesn't have a rate at all. It's simply a spinning wheel which blocks out light at a particular interval. |
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| 15:35.04 | IdleGandalf | droopy, I think google is your friend there. In the end, you get your sources, run a configure with all the things you want to have compiled in and then you are good to go for an make && make install. I would recommend a custom prefix, since its easier to delete afterwards |
| 15:35.20 | jhutchins | adabo: No, but that's offtopic here. |
| 15:35.24 | adabo | jhutchins, Well, I don't want to shoot myself in the foot here, tbh. I'm always learning, so there's probably lots I don't know.. xD |
| 15:35.40 | hexnewbie | IdleGandalf: PHP is, unfortunately, a little bit more complicated than that. |
| 15:36.05 | hexnewbie | IdleGandalf: At least if droopy is using it as an Apache module, otherwise that might work :) |
| 15:36.13 | IdleGandalf | hexagoxel, I complie php since 5.3 myself, besides the first time struggle with the deps it isnt |
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| 15:36.44 | IdleGandalf | talking about pfm of course |
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| 15:36.48 | IdleGandalf | *fpm |
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| 15:41.31 | SuperTramp83 | IdleGandalf? http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=289 |
| 15:42.11 | DammitJim | I have 2 cron jobs... one reports stuff to /var/mail/user but the other cron job doesn't |
| 15:42.13 | DammitJim | why would that be? |
| 15:42.22 | IdleGandalf | SuperTramp83, exactly |
| 15:42.48 | SuperTramp83 | :) |
| 15:42.49 | DammitJim | one runs daily and it gets logged, but the hourly one doesn't get logged |
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| 15:48.39 | hexnewbie | OK, wasn't there at some point a program that supported PDF forms? I am sure there isn't now (correct me if I am wrong), but didn't like Gnome 2.4's Evince support them? Or I am just misremembering something? |
| 15:50.18 | IdleGandalf | hexnewbie, you're right sir |
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| 15:51.16 | KaffeeJunky123 | What's a good place for a locally shared folder? |
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| 15:51.58 | hexnewbie | KaffeeJunky123: /home/shared or /shared or something. Adopt your own naming scheme :) |
| 15:52.02 | NoImNotNineVolt | i'm thinking /locally_shared |
| 15:52.51 | RSpliet | why is it required to have deb-systemd-helper run from dpkg only? |
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| 15:53.26 | hexnewbie | Might be something more creative, like /stash or /stuff or /warehouse (like mine) |
| 15:53.30 | RSpliet | in my case, I'm trying to invoke it in the post-processing phase after multistrap... which is kind of like it's executing in dpkg, only it's not :-P |
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| 15:56.08 | RSpliet | hm oh it's a bash-script... that can be worked around |
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| 15:59.29 | droopy | I can't create a physical volume via 'pvcreate'. Output is 'Can't open /dev/sda3 exclusively. Mounted filesystem?' |
| 15:59.37 | droopy | What does that error mean? |
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| 16:01.13 | vecciora | System can't mount cifs on boot. |
| 16:01.30 | vecciora | I can however mount after logging in. |
| 16:01.34 | frostschutz | droopy, it means something else is using sda3 |
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| 16:01.59 | vecciora | http://pastebin.com/q4gj4LA5 |
| 16:02.07 | vecciora | The output of sudo cat /var/log/syslog | grep cifs. |
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| 16:07.14 | jhutchins | vecciora: I'm guessing you need to recreate the initramfs and include the cifs driver. |
| 16:07.42 | jhutchins | vecciora: It can't mount it until the network's up anyway though, so it wouldn't mount in init. |
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| 16:08.48 | jhutchins | vecciora: Post your fstab (remember to obfuscate credentials if any). |
| 16:09.01 | vecciora | jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/h3DpmF6a |
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| 16:09.35 | drywheat | how can inspect all of the operations that a deb package is doing during an install? |
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| 16:10.56 | vecciora | jhutchins: But before the system could mount without me mount it manually. |
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| 16:12.32 | themill | drywheat: if by "operations" you mean the maintainer scripts, dpkg-deb -e (or use a tool like mc to browse) |
| 16:13.06 | drywheat | themill: and that will show me the steps it takes to install all the files, register a service, etc...? |
| 16:13.21 | petn-randall | droopy: Is it a mounted filesystem? |
| 16:13.33 | themill | drywheat: installing files doesn't require scripting |
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| 16:15.08 | drywheat | themill: well, i guess mean scripting. thanks. |
| 16:16.17 | themill | dpkg: tell drywheat about maintscripts |
| 16:17.29 | vecciora | jhutchins: How could I recreate initramfs with including cifs driver? |
| 16:17.32 | iChatter | drywheat: you would install the deb package using dpkg - dpkg tool got the --no-act | --dry-run | --simulate switch (all three do the same). |
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| 16:18.08 | iChatter | drywheat: and please note that a debian package is usually built from a Makefile - that installs in a temporary directory - and those files/artifacts are then remapped to the target file system. So the downstream version of the Makefile could also help gaining insights. |
| 16:18.48 | drywheat | iChatter: ok. that should get me where i need to be. thanks guys |
| 16:18.59 | jhutchins | vecciora: No, that's wrong of me, you can't mount cifs without networking, so it has to be post "boot" but within init. You might try appending the _netfs option - that will force it to retry after networking. You're squeeze/systemd, right? |
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| 16:19.45 | vecciora | jhutchins: I'm using Jessie. |
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| 16:20.17 | jhutchins | vecciora: Sorry, yeah, that would be systemd. |
| 16:20.26 | jhutchins | vecciora: That's probably what changed. |
| 16:20.47 | jhutchins | vecciora: init knew not to mount nfs or cifs until networking was up. |
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| 16:21.23 | vecciora | jhutchins: So the init is doesn't function properly right? |
| 16:21.40 | vecciora | *no "is" |
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| 16:22.00 | jhutchins | vecciora: https://flexion.org/posts/2014-07-nfs-and-cifs-mounts-with-systemd.html |
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| 16:23.47 | vecciora | jhutchins: I'll try to add noauto,x-systemd.automount,_netdev then. |
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| 16:24.56 | jhutchins | vecciora: It's strange though, the system I upgraded to jessie mounts them just find. |
| 16:25.05 | jhutchins | s/find/fine |
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| 16:26.02 | jhutchins | vecciora: Some people find that using automount instead of mounting at boot is cleaner and less likely to have problems. |
| 16:26.03 | vecciora | jhutchins: Yes. Before, the system mounts just fine. |
| 16:26.27 | vecciora | jhutchins: Automount? What is that? |
| 16:27.50 | jhutchins | !autofs |
| 16:27.50 | dpkg | autofs is a kernel-based automounter that mounts remote shares when directories are accessed. Some regard it as a hackish p.o.s. and the 5 minute default timeout for unmounting is unlikely to be what you want. http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/127 . For hotplugging support for USB storage, ask me about <automount>. |
| 16:28.00 | jhutchins | vecciora: I don't know if it's stilll valid in systemd. |
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| 16:30.08 | jhutchins | vecciora: Some File Browswers will also mount network shares on demand. |
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| 16:31.06 | vecciora | jhutchins: Seems difficult stuff. |
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| 16:33.04 | jhutchins | vecciora: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sshfs#On_demand http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd.automount.html |
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| 16:33.38 | vecciora | jhutchins: So your system mounts cifs just fine with fstab right? |
| 16:33.45 | jhutchins | vecciora: Yes, systemd is an excellent opportunity to develop more cryptic, exclusive knowledge and make older sysadmins obsolete, opening positions for younger candidates. |
| 16:33.58 | jhutchins | vecciora: Yeah, I didn't change anything when I upgraded. |
| 16:34.59 | abrotman | ah, crochety old man ... |
| 16:35.08 | abrotman | if you were worth your pay, you could easily learn something new .. |
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| 16:36.54 | vecciora | jhutchins: Sorry but I couldn't really read the web pages you gave. I want to reboot my system. Thank you for your help. |
| 16:37.40 | droopy | My debian box has three partitions. What's an extended partition do? |
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| 16:38.56 | iChatter | hi |
| 16:39.04 | iChatter | What is the difference between --exclude and --filter in rsync? |
| 16:39.07 | iChatter | Is it the same? |
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| 16:39.28 | abrotman | droopy: that's not really a linux thing. But an extended partition can house other partitions |
| 16:39.32 | NoImNotNineVolt | droopy: an extended partition is something that can be filled with logical partitions. |
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| 16:39.51 | iChatter | abrotman: isn't this extended partition thing not needed anymore with GPT (UEFI)? |
| 16:39.57 | iChatter | Or still if you want to use something Windows? |
| 16:39.59 | abrotman | droopy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning#Extended_partition |
| 16:40.15 | abrotman | iChatter: he didn't say anything about GPT, so I assume it's not part of the equation |
| 16:40.32 | droopy | abrotman: Thank you |
| 16:40.46 | iChatter | abrotman: right, I just wanted to know :O |
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| 16:43.01 | vecciora | I want to see the messages at boot. How could I do that? |
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| 16:44.08 | vecciora | Because there seems to be something important message in that. I was told to do a command to diagnose an error in that message. |
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| 16:47.31 | DrDamnit | svn checkout fails with this error: "svn: error while loading shared libraries: libsvn_client-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory." Google has been no help. apt-get remove --purge, apt-get install did not fix it. Thoughts? |
| 16:47.34 | vecciora | Continuing cifs problem.... Okay. After seeing journalctl -b I think the system try to mount the cifs share after network is up: http://pastebin.com/6MrRRS9J |
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| 16:50.01 | hexnewbie | vecciora: The interfaces are "up" according to systemd's message, but according to CIFS message they aren't. |
| 16:50.42 | hexnewbie | vecciora: If the network is unreachable, you haven't gotten ip address and/or routes added yet |
| 16:51.24 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Yes. I see this message too: http://pastebin.com/a29fPXTM |
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| 16:51.39 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Are you using static, dhcp or manual method for interface configuration? |
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| 16:52.01 | vecciora | hexnewbie: I don't know. I'm thought I'm using NetworkManager. |
| 16:52.17 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Perhaps systemd and NetworkManager aren't playing nicely with each other. |
| 16:52.50 | vecciora | hexnewbie: I didn't configure anything. Just what Live KDE gave me. |
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| 16:53.02 | hexnewbie | What's Live KDE? |
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| 16:53.18 | vecciora | hexnewbie: I mean I installed Debian from Debian live KDE. |
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| 16:54.11 | hexnewbie | Anyway, I know it's not nice to hate on software like NetworkManager, but I suspect you might be in better situation if you rip out your main interface out of there, and put it manually in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:54.43 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Anyway, I know it's not nice to hate on software like NetworkManager, but I suspect you might be in better situation if you rip out your main interface out of there, and put it manually in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:55.29 | hexnewbie | And, besides, unlike other unpopular packages, NetworkManager is actually flame-worthy. :) |
| 16:56.14 | vecciora | hexnewbie: But that's NetworkManager is installed by default. |
| 16:56.22 | vecciora | hexnewbie: But NetworkManager is installed by default. |
| 16:56.34 | vecciora | Remove "that's". |
| 16:57.36 | hexnewbie | vecciora: I don't know about that. I am just saying that you put your main interface in /etc/network/interfaces (read man interfaces) and forbid NetworkManager from touching it (I don't know how you do that), and test if that was the culprit |
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| 16:58.22 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Unless you're afraid you might wreck the network in the process, when you'd might need to live with what you have now :) |
| 16:59.57 | vecciora | hexnewbie: I'm not afraid, but I think it'll take time and energy. Now the time is 11:59 PM in my area. |
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| 17:01.11 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Isn't that's great, the most productive part of the day is beginning? :)What better time to configure your Debian than in the middle of the night, when you know you're waking up early for something less exciting? :) |
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| 17:01.28 | vecciora | hexnwebie: I mean AM. I'm sleepy. |
| 17:01.34 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Haha. |
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| 17:01.54 | vecciora | hexnewbie: No no. PM I mean. |
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| 17:03.08 | hexnewbie | Another feature of starting to configure Debian at midnight is that you have it ready to watch a horror film at 3-4 AM. |
| 17:03.33 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Anyway I still want to rely on NetworkManager because it's what the system uses by default. I will try to find the solution without discarding NetworkManager. |
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| 17:04.15 | hexnewbie | vecciora: I believe systemd might be able to trigger stuff on detecting interfaces going up. That might be even further from the default, though :) |
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| 17:04.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | multi.network or something like that. |
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| 17:06.13 | Elirips | Hello. What could be wrong: I tried to create a new mailbox using postfixadmin on wheezy. Now mailboxes are created in /var/vmail/login@domain, but the old existing mailboxes (from wheezy times) are all in /var/vmail/domain/login. |
| 17:06.16 | AvatarA | vecciora, what are you actually trying to set up? |
| 17:06.31 | Elirips | I'm sorry, I mean: I created the new mailbox on jessie |
| 17:06.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | sorry, that was totally not informative or maybe even misleading. |
| 17:06.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | After=network.target network-online.target |
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| 17:07.01 | unborn | Elirips, we are jessie.. not wheezy - please update. |
| 17:07.14 | NoImNotNineVolt | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/126009/cause-a-script-to-execute-after-networking-has-started |
| 17:07.39 | Elirips | unborn: sorry, I am on jessie. I ment: Mailboxes created on jessie today are created in /var/vmail/login@domain. Old mailboxes from wheezy are in /var/vmail/domain/login |
| 17:07.53 | vecciora | AvatarA: I want to mount an SMB share at boot. The system was fine before. It could mount the SMB share at boot, but now it can't. |
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| 17:08.16 | beastwick987 | with all this talk about network manager, I've noticed that my network interface has no connection when I come out of sleep. |
| 17:08.18 | beastwick987 | any ideas? |
| 17:08.28 | hexnewbie | NoImNotNineVolt: Yeah, but vecciora has that, and their "network has started", yet NetworkManager hasn't yet put the interfaces up |
| 17:10.10 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Try this: systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service # https://wiki.freedesktop.org/www/Software/systemd/NetworkTarget/#runningservicesafterthenetworkisup |
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| 17:10.45 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Note the warning on the page: Enabling this service might considerably delay your boot even if the timeout is not reached. Both services are disabled by default. |
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| 17:11.44 | hexnewbie | vecciora: It will probably cause hell if you have interfaces that aren't permanent. |
| 17:12.00 | AvatarA | why SMB specifically? you're trying to mount something from a Windows machine? |
| 17:12.06 | AvatarA | can you mount it manually now? |
| 17:12.08 | vecciora | AvatarA: Yes I do. |
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| 17:12.22 | vecciora | AvatarA: Yes I can. After boot I could mount it just fine. |
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| 17:12.56 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Seems like not really good workaround. :/ |
| 17:13.10 | hexnewbie | vecciora: What you're experiencing is not a bug, it's a feature, as per the docs. :) I don't think NetworkManager has been meant for persistent interfaces |
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| 17:13.54 | hexnewbie | vecciora: It's not a workaround - it's what you want. To wait for the NM interfaces to come up before starting network-dependent services. |
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| 17:14.32 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Of course NM includes your WiFi... And just about everything network-related. |
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| 17:14.58 | vecciora | hexnewbie: My main interface is eth0. |
| 17:15.40 | vecciora | hexnewbie: So I shouldn't use NetworkManager for eth0? |
| 17:15.57 | AvatarA | ok, so you really need it to be mounted during boot? |
| 17:16.00 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Either that, or you should enable the service that waits for the NetworkManager |
| 17:16.03 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Even though it worked just fine until this point? |
| 17:16.39 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Something must have changed because it worked just fine before. |
| 17:16.48 | AvatarA | because if you don't, and you're saying you can mount it now, you can try to automate the mount at login or something later in the boot process |
| 17:16.48 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Did you upgrade to Jessie? |
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| 17:16.53 | vecciora | AvatarA: Not really. Just for convenience. |
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| 17:17.16 | vecciora | hexnewbie: No. I installed Jessie. |
| 17:17.18 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Also it was probably working by sheer accident. NetworkManager was fast enough to bring up the interface before the other services. |
| 17:17.21 | AvatarA | well then go with that |
| 17:17.27 | AvatarA | it will be the same result for you anyway |
| 17:17.37 | AvatarA | once your desktop is loaded, you will have your mount |
| 17:17.37 | hexnewbie | vecciora: What was "before" then? |
| 17:17.45 | syntroPi | which program is the recommended way to scan for dvb-c transponders nowerdays? |
| 17:18.27 | vecciora | hexnewbie: I don't really know for sure, but maybe yesterday. |
| 17:18.43 | hexnewbie | vecciora: No I mean, like, wheezy? |
| 17:18.49 | vecciora | hexnewbie: The system became like this just recently. |
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| 17:19.07 | vecciora | hexnewbie: No. I've never used Wheezy. |
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| 17:19.15 | vecciora | hexnewbie: I'm new to Debian. Jessie is my first. |
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| 17:19.45 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Ah, Ok. Well, network manager and CIFS mount are racing for who will start first. If CIFS mount starts first, it doesn't work. If network manager brings interfaces up first, it's fine |
| 17:19.54 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Nothing has changed. :) |
| 17:20.28 | vecciora | hexnewbie: And according to journalctl -b output ntp can't reach hosts too. |
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| 17:20.36 | hexnewbie | vecciora: That too |
| 17:20.40 | vecciora | hexnewbie: It's not only CIFS. |
| 17:20.47 | hexnewbie | vecciora: It's not configured to wait for NM |
| 17:21.31 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Maybe I should really try systemctl enable NetworkManager-wait-online.service then? |
| 17:22.02 | jhutchins | vecciora: I believe network manager lets you do things like mount something after the interface comes up. |
| 17:22.08 | hexnewbie | vecciora: Yes. And then if your system boots too slow, disable it, and move your eth0 from NetworkManager to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:23.21 | vecciora | hexnewbie: Okay thank you very much. I'll save your advice. I'm too tired and sleepy by now. |
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| 17:34.35 | Poly_ | sudo apt-get install rkhunter > "E: Unable to locate package rkhunter" Well... |
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| 17:36.32 | bezaban | ,v rkhunter |
| 17:36.33 | judd | Package: rkhunter on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.3.6-4; squeeze-backports: 1.3.8-10~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.4.0-1; jessie: 1.4.2-0.4; sid: 1.4.2-3; stretch: 1.4.2-3 |
| 17:37.25 | Poly_ | rkhunter:amd64 worked. Things happen... |
| 17:37.47 | bezaban | :) |
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| 17:39.48 | knivsta | dell inspiron 15 3542 <-- anyone here has this one? |
| 17:40.03 | knivsta | I want to buy it and would like to know if it would work fine with Debian Main repo I don't use anything but main repo |
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| 17:40.29 | mtn | knivsta, identify and research the video card and wifi, if it has one. |
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| 17:40.49 | knivsta | mtn, Intel HD 4400 |
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| 17:41.00 | knivsta | and wifi is Atheros |
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| 17:41.06 | knivsta | both works with Free drivers |
| 17:41.10 | knivsta | ;] |
| 17:41.18 | knivsta | mtn, just looking for people who actually have it. |
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| 17:43.27 | mtn | knivsta, no problem with intel. and if you know the wifi works, you are in business |
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| 17:45.44 | knivsta | mtn, ok Sir :) Do you think if Intel 5th Gen Processors would work? |
| 17:46.21 | mtn | knivsta, intel almost always works. for more info, please do some research . search engines, debian wiki, etc. |
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| 17:57.53 | adabo | o/ |
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| 18:03.40 | adabo | There's something off about the default fonts |
| 18:04.06 | adabo | jessie |
| 18:04.30 | adabo | I'm not even sure which desktop environment I'm using anymore, but the fonts don't look right. |
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| 18:04.52 | adabo | They seem to get too thin on parts. Like the tops of W are almost black |
| 18:05.10 | r6ku | that probably has something to do with font anti-aliasing and hinting |
| 18:05.11 | adabo | well, black because I'm using white on black in IRC |
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| 18:07.13 | adabo | r6ku: Possibly. Is it something that's ajustable? |
| 18:07.27 | r6ku | yes, check your font settings |
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| 18:07.52 | adabo | look at the alphabet at the bottom. http://i.imgur.com/v5AGYUa.png |
| 18:07.58 | adabo | I don't know if this will work |
| 18:08.09 | adabo | taking a ss may not show you what I see. |
| 18:08.10 | x86iac | r6ku: do you recommend 10px or 12px for wingdings? |
| 18:08.32 | adabo | x86iac: hah |
| 18:09.42 | x86iac | knows adabo is a fellow wingdink and hugs him tighly and lifts his wallet |
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| 18:10.34 | adabo | giggles because x86iac would get nothing but reciepts |
| 18:11.01 | adabo | Ok ok, <noob alert> Where do I adjust the font settings </noob alert> |
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| 18:11.22 | x86iac | adabo: what kind of settings and what is your wm/de ? |
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| 18:11.50 | adabo | x86iac: Not sue which wm or de I'm using. How do I know? |
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| 18:11.59 | r6ku | he's using gnome in the screenshot |
| 18:12.00 | adabo | s/know/figure out/ |
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| 18:12.34 | x86iac | gnome must have a fonts preference in it's settings |
| 18:12.59 | mtn | x86iac, tweak tool |
| 18:13.12 | adabo | mtn: x86iac Ok, I just found tweak tool |
| 18:13.56 | x86iac | adabo: when you want to swap wingding pics .. please let me know ;) |
| 18:14.08 | r6ku | adabo: yup, the text in that screenshot looks correct, it's just the fonts |
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| 18:14.32 | adabo | x86iac: hah, I'm afriad I'd let you down, unfortunately. I'm merely an admirer of wingings, not much of a user :( |
| 18:14.52 | r6ku | imo the dejavu fonts look like ass, liberation ftw |
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| 18:15.21 | adabo | r6ku: That's the conundrum though. What if what you see in the screenshot is different than what I see due to, say, display driver. |
| 18:15.44 | x86iac | adabo: each gtk/gnome app also has font settings xterm and firefox and there is also a ~/.gtkrc-2.0 for more 'user system wise' |
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| 18:16.48 | alimj | Hello. During the last few days I recognized this behavior from Level 3 DNS (4.2.2.4): http://pastebin.com/nYCQSGXA |
| 18:17.02 | r6ku | adabo: I tested it out, it *does* show up in a screenshot |
| 18:17.11 | alimj | They are forwarding all unregistered TLDs to their search Engine |
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| 18:17.58 | adabo | r6ku: Ok, Then I just need to change fonts per app, as x86iac mentioned, correct? |
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| 18:18.13 | alimj | Is this a Normal behavior from Verison/Level3? |
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| 18:19.21 | x86iac | alimj: maybe i have no clue but did you leave off the .com ?? |
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| 18:19.32 | adabo | Ok, I'm convinced, the default fonts in xterm (gnome) are awful. Where can I get new ones? |
| 18:19.56 | alimj | This was their response: https://twitter.com/Level3/status/630782137470464000 |
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| 18:20.16 | hexnewbie | alimj: Well, it does it for valid TLDs as well |
| 18:20.31 | r6ku | adabo: there are a bunch of packages available for different fonts |
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| 18:20.57 | alimj | If something is not registered (TLD or .com/.net etc.), I do not expect a "A Record" |
| 18:21.07 | hexnewbie | alimj: dig @4.2.2.4 mypajamasgotholes.com |
| 18:21.32 | alimj | Promoting their useless Search Engine? |
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| 18:21.41 | alimj | Even Google Public DNS does not that |
| 18:22.33 | alimj | It should Try to dig @8.8.8.8 mypajamasgotholes.com |
| 18:22.48 | alimj | Google does not do such a shameful act |
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| 18:24.36 | hexnewbie | alimj: It's even worse. It's doing it for subdomains of valid *domains*. Didn't like several ISPs get in trouble for doing that? |
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| 18:28.40 | c0fe_machine | who's doing what hexagoxel |
| 18:28.44 | c0fe_machine | whoops |
| 18:28.47 | c0fe_machine | hexagoxel |
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| 18:28.54 | TheCreeper | lel |
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| 18:29.54 | adabo | Not sure, but I'm going to do quadrapassel as soon as I get my fonts fixex |
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| 18:32.26 | hexnewbie | adabo: Are you actually using xterm, or gnome-terminal? xterm uses X fonts, which are non-aliased, and it is also a bit more difficult to choose a font |
| 18:32.38 | adabo | hexnewbie: I don't know |
| 18:33.08 | adabo | hexnewbie: Ok, Help>About says GNOME Terminal 3.14.1 |
| 18:33.22 | r6ku | gnome terminal probably, the color scheme is tango after all |
| 18:33.27 | adabo | Is there a better terminal? One like the system terminal? |
| 18:33.51 | hexnewbie | Did I miss a screenshot? |
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| 18:34.19 | adabo | I really don't how gnome looks, to be honest. |
| 18:34.30 | adabo | +like |
| 18:34.34 | r6ku | adabo: right click on the terminal, a menu should show up |
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| 18:35.02 | adabo | r6ku: Yup |
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| 18:35.17 | r6ku | gnome terminal still has font and color settings, right? |
| 18:35.24 | adabo | r6ku: Yes. |
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| 18:36.12 | adabo | I just downloaded terminus. This is nice. :D |
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| 18:36.14 | hexnewbie | adabo: Fonts for the terminal that I've tried include: 1) DejaVu Sans Mono 2) Terminus (bitmap font), and 3) The console VGA font (I ripped the latin/greek/cyrillic version and ported it to X for myself). 4) Ubuntu something. 5) fixed in xterm |
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| 18:37.43 | adabo | I turned off "Allow bold text" |
| 18:38.00 | adabo | This is starting to look better. |
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| 18:39.58 | adabo | I just wish I could have all my terminal activities in one terminal, like tty1, tty2 etc. |
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| 18:40.23 | adabo | Instead, with GNOME, you have one terminal for each thing you want to do. Too many windows open |
| 18:40.49 | hexnewbie | adabo: Ctrl+Shift+T |
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| 18:41.14 | hexnewbie | adabo: And you'd forgive Gnome Terminal's tabbar, it's taking 64 lines of text ;) |
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| 18:41.21 | adabo | hexnewbie: hah |
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| 18:41.31 | adabo | hexnewbie: Is there a hotkey to move between them? |
| 18:41.49 | hexnewbie | adabo: Mine's Ctrl+PgUp and Ctrl+PgDown I think |
| 18:41.51 | adabo | hexnewbie: Nevermind |
| 18:42.01 | adabo | hexnewbie: Yeah. I'm changing that xD |
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| 18:42.55 | hexnewbie | adabo: I am personally using Konsole, which does it with Shift+Left/Right, plus I configured Alt+1, Alt+2, Alt+3 (I think that's available by default in Gnome Terminal?) |
| 18:45.02 | x86iac | i always say don't use google |
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| 18:45.51 | cra1g321 | adabo did you get your gfx card sorted ? |
| 18:46.32 | cra1g321 | oh wait, think i've got wrong person |
| 18:46.51 | adabo | cra1g321: You've got the right guy ;) |
| 18:46.59 | cra1g321 | ah ok :) |
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| 18:47.19 | cra1g321 | what did you end up doing ? |
| 18:47.28 | adabo | cra1g321: Brigo sorted me out. Still some details left, but at least I've got desktop coming out my pcie card |
| 18:47.36 | wCPO_ | What do I need to edit, to be able to add ubuntu trusty repo to Debian 8? |
| 18:47.45 | x86iac | adabo: ^right mouse to change fonts in xterm |
| 18:47.48 | wCPO_ | I get a malformed line in source list (dist parse) |
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| 18:48.05 | cra1g321 | <wCPO_> a text editor and a hint of madness |
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| 18:48.18 | adabo | cra1g321: There were some issues with gpm3. So Brigo had me remove it I think. Then I installed a window manger called lightdm (I think). |
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| 18:49.27 | wCPO_ | cra1g321: "deb http://url debian" work. "deb http://url trust" malformed line |
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| 18:49.28 | adabo | cra1g321: I'm not even sure what display driver I'm using. |
| 18:49.44 | wCPO_ | cra1g321: Some sort of check have been added |
| 18:49.49 | cra1g321 | <wCPO_> ubuntu repos are made for UBUNTU not for debian |
| 18:50.25 | wCPO_ | cra1g321: I know that. |
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| 18:52.15 | wCPO_ | cra1g321: This repo only contain 3 packages, which I need to be able to use the wireless, bluetooth and sound on my Intel Compute Stick |
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| 18:52.52 | adabo | *offtopic question* Anyone using irssi? |
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| 18:54.27 | NoImNotNineVolt | i am, but there's also #debian-offtopic for discussion on that. |
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| 18:54.52 | iChatter | hi |
| 18:54.54 | iChatter | rsync -aE -n -v --stats -h -P --exclude '/Photoshop Temp*' --exclude '/$RECYCLE.BIN/' /source/ /target/ |
| 18:55.06 | iChatter | Will this only transfer data from source to target - and never touch the source directory? |
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| 18:59.50 | wCPO_ | cra1g321: Can't I disable the check? |
| 19:00.02 | cra1g321 | dont know |
| 19:00.07 | cra1g321 | i've never added ubuntu repos to debian |
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| 19:00.10 | hexnewbie | wCPO_: You could add the PPA's deb-src, and then compile the package with apt-get source --build, which has less destructive potential than using them directly from the PPA (which I have already done *ducks*) |
| 19:00.28 | hexnewbie | s/already/also/ |
| 19:00.57 | mtn | wCPO_, read this: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 19:03.33 | adabo | hexnewbie: I'm booted into debian now. What was it about brightness you were curious about? |
| 19:03.36 | hexnewbie | I feel relieved - there are two on that list I am not doing. |
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| 19:04.10 | cxd13 | anyone know why i hear a loud "POP" noise when i disconnect my headphones from the headphone jack in laptop? it isn't like that in windows but is on linux for some reason |
| 19:04.11 | hexnewbie | adabo: I was wondering if it is bothering your eyes still even at maximum brightness. But I think in our last conversation we concluded that the answer would still be "yes" :) |
| 19:04.39 | wCPO_ | mtn: I know! I'm not trying to combine debian with some other release, I'm just trying to add a ubuntu repo for my specific hardware which only contain 4 package, and I need 3 of them, where 2 of this is dkms packages! |
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| 19:07.58 | adabo | hexnewbie: Just chatting here, it's ok. It's only when I'm scrolling through text and alt tabbing. Really, I is there a way to disable all these pointless window transitions/animations? Isn't there like a blackbox or something? |
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| 19:08.41 | hexnewbie | adabo: I don't know, I don't use Gnome |
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| 19:12.14 | adabo | :( |
| 19:12.26 | adabo | would like a better DE |
| 19:12.35 | adabo | s/better/different/ |
| 19:12.37 | adabo | hides |
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| 19:15.06 | squinty | cxd13: check the input level of your microphone |
| 19:15.58 | cxd13 | squinty: i checked the microphoen in my audio mixed and it's turned down |
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| 19:20.54 | greycat | I have a Jessie i386 system (with systemd) that hangs when I try to reboot it. I am starting to suspect it's my daemontools unit file that's responsible -- maybe either supervise or one of the supervise-managed processes is hanging around not dying, hanging the reboot. |
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| 19:21.39 | greycat | Does anyone have a known-good daemontools unit file, or a way to tell shutdown -r now to JUST DO IT, forcing the system to reboot after a few minutes no matter what? |
| 19:22.59 | greycat | Or a way to diagnose the problem that does not involve a serial console, or a "debug shell", whatever THAT is, since it wasn't even described.... |
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| 19:25.03 | valdyn | greycat: the debug shell is enabled via "systemctl enable debug-shell" |
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| 19:27.16 | MrDetonia | Would anybody happen to know roughly when the new libxml2 packages are going to be added to stretch? I can't install some needed dev packages because of the dependency. |
| 19:27.47 | valdyn | adabo: the DE are just a specific collection of packages, you are free to compose your own de |
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| 19:29.01 | valdyn | MrDetonia: 10 days after its in sid is the minimum - it can take a long time |
| 19:29.13 | adabo | valdyn: I get so confused about wm vs de. I even read an aricle on it, and it still didn't help. |
| 19:29.24 | adabo | valdyn: But what you just said made a whole heck of alot of sense. |
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| 19:29.35 | valdyn | adabo: a wm is *one* program that manages your windows |
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| 19:29.54 | valdyn | adabo: a de is a collection of programs including a window manager |
| 19:29.59 | adabo | so, gnome (the packages) has it's own window shell (so to speak)? |
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| 19:30.24 | valdyn | adabo: gnome (the package) contains no software, but it depends on a number of programs |
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| 19:30.34 | cxd13 | greycat: does systemctl reboot hang too? |
| 19:30.35 | adabo | valdyn: Ok, then I would love a better wm :) What are the popular no frills/just works wms out there? |
| 19:30.36 | MrDetonia | valdyn: ah okay. Is there a reason why the dev packages can be released before the binaries? |
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| 19:30.54 | aguitel | is this image working to test in my laptop ? debian-live-8.1.0-amd64-kde-desktop.iso |
| 19:30.56 | valdyn | MrDetonia: they cant, normally |
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| 19:31.09 | MrDetonia | valdyn: libxml2-dev : Depends: libxml2 (= 2.9.1+dfsg1-5) but 2.9.2+dfsg1-3 is to be installed |
| 19:31.16 | aguitel | i try dd or unetbootin and canoot boot |
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| 19:31.33 | valdyn | MrDetonia: thats stretch, so its not release time, but move to stretch time |
| 19:31.59 | aguitel | md5 is ok |
| 19:32.06 | greycat | cxd13: how likely is that to work, given that if it doesn't work I have to trek back down to the server room and hit the power button again.... |
| 19:32.35 | cxd13 | i don't know |
| 19:32.36 | MrDetonia | valdyn: I know, it just seems odd that a package was allowed through that caused a dependency issue. |
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| 19:32.37 | valdyn | adabo: i dont really know what is popular, make up your own mind |
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| 19:33.28 | valdyn | MrDetonia: anything without relevant a bug report can move, as long as *it* can be installed. No matter if it breaks something else. |
| 19:33.29 | adabo | valdyn: How does one make up their mind if there is no data to use? |
| 19:33.54 | cxd13 | adabo: look up the list of window managers on arch wiki or wikipedia and pick one that sounds good to you |
| 19:34.01 | valdyn | MrDetonia: this policy (and stretch in general) is not designed to keep stretch usuable |
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| 19:34.10 | valdyn | adabo: you try them |
| 19:34.14 | adabo | valdyn: Anyway, thanks for the clearing up the differnces of wm and de. |
| 19:34.28 | valdyn | !start a wm war |
| 19:34.28 | dpkg | KDE makes me vomit! |
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| 19:34.30 | valdyn | !start a wm war |
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| 19:34.34 | adabo | cxd13: Yes, thanks. That's what I'm looking for. Just a place to start. |
| 19:34.36 | jhutchins | valdyn: xfce and lxde are probably the more common lighter weight DEs. |
| 19:35.06 | r6ku | xfce or mate |
| 19:35.15 | valdyn | last thing i need is lightweight ;) |
| 19:35.44 | jhutchins | adabo: xfce and lxde are probably the more common lighter weight DEs. |
| 19:35.50 | MrDetonia | valdyn: Ah I see. It knew nothing about the dev package because the dependency is one-way |
| 19:35.57 | jhutchins | adabo: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/ <- more comprehensive list. |
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| 19:36.15 | adabo | jhutchins: Very good. Thank you |
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| 19:36.41 | aguitel | is this image working to test in my laptop ? debian-live-8.1.0-amd64-kde-desktop.iso |
| 19:37.09 | jhutchins | adabo: It's possible to run X without a window manager at all, but not terribly useful in today's terms. |
| 19:37.19 | valdyn | !xmonad |
| 19:37.19 | dpkg | xmonad is a dynamically tiling <window manager> written in <haskell>. http://wiki.debian.org/Xmonad http://www.xmonad.org/ http://haskell.org/haskellwiki/Xmonad/Frequently_asked_questions #xmonad on irc.freenode.net. |
| 19:37.27 | valdyn | adabo: ^^ is the best. |
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| 19:39.54 | greycat | So, this systemd debug-shell thing, if I enable it, just sits passively on F9 and should be available to type commands into if shutdown hangs? Maybe? |
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| 19:39.57 | adabo | jhutchins: Would there still be a window? |
| 19:40.15 | adabo | valdyn: Aha. Looks interesting ;0 |
| 19:40.35 | valdyn | greycat: i dont know, i have only debugged system startup with it |
| 19:41.13 | valdyn | greycat: but it just sits passively on F9 .. yes |
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| 19:42.39 | valdyn | adabo: this was half joking - xmonad is hard to configure and mostly keyboard - driven |
| 19:43.17 | adabo | valdyn: But I like my fingers on homerow xD |
| 19:43.49 | x86iac | greycat: you need some forced reboot? echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq |
| 19:43.49 | x86iac | echo b > /proc/sysrq-trigger |
| 19:43.50 | greycat | Isn't i3wm also popular for people who like that sort of thing? |
| 19:44.09 | valdyn | greycat: it is, its alot easier to configure |
| 19:44.16 | r6ku | but still half serious, tiling wms are a boon for your workflow, I've used i3 myself |
| 19:44.28 | MrDetonia | adabo: If you don't know Haskell, i3 can be configured with a text file; or dwm with a C++ header file (you need to recompile it to make changes though, which may become annoying) |
| 19:44.31 | valdyn | greycat: less versatile though |
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| 19:45.35 | adabo | MrDetonia: I don't know haskell. I'm capable with c/++. Just barely. But good to know :) |
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| 19:46.33 | valdyn | adabo: in c++ terminology: in xmonad you derive from the xmonad class to create your own wm |
| 19:46.44 | valdyn | adabo: then compile and run of course |
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| 19:47.38 | MrDetonia | Would xmonad run comfortably in an interpreter? For dynamic reloading |
| 19:47.40 | adabo | valdyn: Oh neat. That reminds me of another one.. I forget what it's called...openbox I think |
| 19:47.59 | kqr | MrDetonia, not sure if it's needed. you can recompile and restart with a new binary without losing significant state |
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| 19:48.09 | kqr | but it should be possible to run in the interpreter too |
| 19:48.22 | valdyn | MrDetonia: im not sure what that would add: "xmonad --recompile" takes 1 second, "xmonad --restart" starts the new one |
| 19:48.36 | MrDetonia | kqr: Only if the overhead in compiling compared with the overhead of reloading the source would be worth it |
| 19:48.51 | MrDetonia | ^ just read valdyn's :P |
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| 19:49.00 | jjck | hi there |
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| 19:49.30 | kqr | MrDetonia, sure, but since the actual binary is just the configuration file you write, compilation is lightning fast (all the libraries (including the xmonad library) are already compiled) |
| 19:49.35 | kqr | only a full build takes time |
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| 19:50.02 | MrDetonia | kqr: ah, I assumed (wrongly) that you modify multiple source files |
| 19:50.35 | kqr | MrDetonia, you could technically break your configuration up into multiple source files, but it's not that common to have a large enough configuration to warrant that :) |
| 19:50.55 | MrDetonia | kqr: You could always try :P |
| 19:51.00 | kqr | (and even so, I'm pretty sure ghc will only recompile the files you've changed) |
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| 19:51.56 | adabo | Once I install a wm, is there a command that restarts without rebooting? Was it systemctl something--- |
| 19:52.09 | adabo | Once I install a wm, is there a command that restarts without rebooting? Was it systemctl something |
| 19:52.10 | valdyn | adabo: not like that |
| 19:52.17 | adabo | sorry |
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| 19:52.31 | valdyn | adabo: a wm can talk to a wm to switch its place |
| 19:52.36 | abrotman | adabo: restarts what? |
| 19:52.40 | valdyn | adabo: like "metacity --replace" |
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| 19:53.05 | valdyn | adabo: that works only for some wm though |
| 19:53.20 | adabo | abrotman: Restarts the environment. |
| 19:53.30 | adabo | valdyn: Ok |
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| 19:55.01 | valdyn | adabo: just install a few wms, quit X, run "xinit", start a wm from that terminal you get, kill it (ctrl-c) and start another |
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| 19:55.18 | greycat | The debug-shell worked. I pressed Ctrl-Alt-Del on the console keyboard, and when it got to "reached target Shutdown" (which is where it hangs), I went to Alt-F9 and found the only unexpected process was /usr/local/bin/spamd (SpamAssassin in daemon mode). No daemontools stuff. |
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| 19:55.48 | greycat | "reboot -f" from the debug-shell made it reboot, which according to googled sites means "it's a systemd thing not a kernel thing" |
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| 19:56.39 | greycat | Killing spamd did not make the regular shutdown continue. |
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| 20:00.51 | zarren | Hey all Are the oftc rooms offline permanently ? |
| 20:01.36 | prefixed | YO. One of my servers just crashed. I have the drive, and have mounted it on a new system. However, I need to know the PHP version from that environment. How would I do this? |
| 20:02.25 | greycat | prefixed: chroot into it and you can run dpkg -l php\* |
| 20:02.52 | nkuttler | zarren: hm? |
| 20:02.59 | greycat | prefixed: failing that, I suppose you could parse /var/lib/dpkg/status (it's not complex, just long) |
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| 20:03.17 | zarren | pipe it through grep |
| 20:03.26 | greycat | nah, use less and search (/) |
| 20:03.46 | greycat | it's in giant-stanza format, not one-package-per-line format |
| 20:03.47 | zarren | @nkuttler I can't get on ? |
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| 20:04.57 | nkuttler | zarren: what does that mean? what are you doing? |
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| 20:06.38 | nkuttler | zarren: i'm on oftc right now. please keep it in the channel. how do you figure the domain is down? |
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| 20:07.10 | zarren | Becuase I cannot connect ? |
| 20:07.22 | prefixed | greycat the OS is mounted as a data drive |
| 20:07.24 | nkuttler | zarren: oh? their website is down? that has nothing to do with irc unless you depend on their web client |
| 20:07.28 | greycat | zarren: describe what you're doing and what error message you are getting |
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| 20:07.37 | squinty | irc is down here too |
| 20:07.41 | zarren | Nope I'm using xchat but cannot get on the debian irc |
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| 20:07.59 | greycat | prefixed: you said it was mounted somewhere, yes? Is that somewhere a Linux system? |
| 20:08.07 | squinty | zarren: just keeps trying to log on here without any success |
| 20:08.37 | nkuttler | zarren: dunno, i'm in it right now |
| 20:08.47 | prefixed | greycat yessir |
| 20:08.55 | KaffeeJunky123 | When I'm connected to an openvpn network I can no longer access the internet over my normal network interface, what am I doing wrong? |
| 20:08.57 | zarren | Well I load up XChat and click debian server and it's fails to resolve host. |
| 20:09.07 | KaffeeJunky123 | Using network-manager |
| 20:09.07 | greycat | prefixed: then you should be able to do something like "chroot /mnt" or wherever it's mounted |
| 20:09.14 | nkuttler | zarren: maybe they don't accept incoming connections temporarily, let me ask.. |
| 20:09.15 | zarren | freenode works fine |
| 20:09.19 | prefixed | ok. i think i found it |
| 20:09.21 | prefixed | 5.3.3-7+squeeze19 |
| 20:09.22 | zarren | Ok ty |
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| 20:10.06 | zarren | @Kaffee you have to set the server or client not to share internet traffic |
| 20:10.27 | nkuttler | zarren: they say dns issue in #oftc |
| 20:10.38 | zarren | Ok cool I'll try later |
| 20:10.47 | zarren | Thanks for asking buddy |
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| 20:11.19 | nkuttler | zarren: try either 2604:a880:800:10::870:a001 45.55.214.220 64.62.190.36 |
| 20:11.44 | nkuttler | zarren: and i was told that you should NEVER hardcode those addresses in your config |
| 20:12.33 | squinty | nkuttler: my thanks too :) |
| 20:12.41 | nkuttler | yw |
| 20:12.57 | zarren | lol don't worry I won't. Suppose it's because they move around |
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| 20:14.51 | jjck | I stopped an apt-get upgrade because grub os probing was taking too long. After that apt asks me to use dpkg --configure -a |
| 20:15.32 | adabo | valdyn: "quit X" > bash: quit: command not found |
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| 20:15.49 | jjck | grub taking really long again, I just made a ctrl-c to stop it, and dpkg configured the others pakage |
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| 20:16.21 | jjck | but taking too long for lvm2 |
| 20:16.23 | transhuman | hi I have debian stretch. I successfully setup my gmail account in icedove and pointed libreoffice to /usr/bin/icedove as the email client. I did a dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:16.24 | transhuman | exim4-config as best I can figure out to use localhost and loopback. unable to establish connectionn with outgoing smtp server |
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| 20:16.45 | transhuman | using port 587 |
| 20:17.51 | jjck | transhuman: I think your issue came from the icedove configuration |
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| 20:18.01 | jjck | but maybe i'm thinking bad |
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| 20:18.27 | transhuman | so what should i use instead of /usr/bin/iceweasel |
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| 20:18.56 | transhuman | sorry /usr/bin/icedove |
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| 20:20.02 | jjck | can you send mail from icedove ? |
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| 20:22.42 | transhuman | thanks for the help I am going to have to come back to this in a few hours (its syncing email in icedove and looks like its got another 16000 messages to download...this could be the problem so I will wait |
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| 20:23.23 | jjck | ok transhuman |
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| 20:24.38 | jjck | anyone have an idea why dpkg get really long ( more than 2 hours ) for configuring/purge/removing lvm2 ? |
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| 20:27.00 | Hydroxide | jjck: if you're using stretch or sid rather than jessie, yeah there's a bug being worked through |
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| 20:27.08 | Hydroxide | jjck: you can probably unblock it by running pvs --cache |
| 20:27.16 | Hydroxide | or maybe I mean pvs --cached, I forget |
| 20:27.45 | Hydroxide | jjck: and then fix it by changing use_lvmetad = 1 to use_lvmetad = 0 in /etc/lvm/lvm.cache and running update-initramfs -u -k all to regenerate your initramfs |
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| 20:28.11 | Hydroxide | I had to do this myself :) but tech support for not-yet-stable releases is easier to come by in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) |
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| 20:29.29 | jjck | hey Hydroxide thanks, i'm trying that, but founded nothing from my search |
| 20:29.46 | Hydroxide | jjck: I found that at bugs.debian.org/lvm2 |
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| 20:30.22 | Hydroxide | has to go afk now, ttyl and good luck |
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| 20:32.29 | prefixed | any thoughts on how I'd get at a mysqldb from a mounted drive that used to be an OS drive? |
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| 20:34.27 | jhutchins | prefixed: Copy the files? |
| 20:34.46 | jhutchins | prefixed: It wouldn't matter if it was an os drive or a data drive. |
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| 20:35.38 | greycat | jhutchins: from prior discussion, he appears to have mounted a squeeze disk onto god-knows-what kind of Linux machine. |
| 20:36.08 | prefixed | squeeze to squeeze |
| 20:36.14 | prefixed | 32bit to 64 bir though |
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| 20:37.30 | greycat | if the mounting system isn't already running mysql, you could probably chroot into the mounted system and just start it up |
| 20:37.44 | greycat | that would conflict with TCP ports if the outer system is running it though |
| 20:37.56 | prefixed | it's a temp mount. i'm moving everything over |
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| 20:38.10 | greycat | Yeah, I get that, but once it's running you can mysqldump it or whatever. |
| 20:38.46 | prefixed | good point |
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| 20:40.10 | prefixed | hm |
| 20:40.12 | prefixed | it failed |
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| 20:41.35 | iChatter | you can use a container |
| 20:41.41 | iChatter | lxc toolset |
| 20:41.42 | iChatter | or docker |
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| 20:42.52 | jhutchins | prefixed: Just copy the contents of /var/lib/mysql/<databasename>/ |
| 20:43.58 | jhutchins | prefixed: There will be some information like mysql usernames, passwords, and mysql permissions in /var/lib/mysql/mysql/* - if you really need to recover those that's trickier and you should speak with a mysql specialist. |
| 20:44.31 | jhutchins | prefixed: It's pretty easy to do this without running mysql. |
| 20:44.47 | prefixed | ok |
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| 20:49.01 | IdleGandalf | someone else having the problem that num keys don't work with kcalc on kde5? |
| 20:49.03 | greycat | attempts to upgrade spamassassin and rip out the old svsvinit script (not Debian-supplied) and get it running under daemontools |
| 20:49.15 | adabo | How do I switch wms? |
| 20:49.53 | r6ku | adabo: log out and choose a different session in lightdm |
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| 20:50.18 | jhutchins | adabo: Usually the "greeter" or "display manager' will have a menu - can be tricky to find. |
| 20:50.25 | iChatter | When I change a large file in the middle, let's say, hundred bytes of it - and run rsync - will it transfer only the changed chunk? |
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| 20:50.30 | adabo | r6ku: jhutchins OK. Let me check |
| 20:50.51 | greycat | iChatter: it will try |
| 20:51.18 | greycat | but if your changes are a different SIZE from the original, then the whole back end of the file from that point onward may be rewritten |
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| 20:52.38 | greycat | iChatter: (if you need more detail than this, ask #rsync) |
| 20:52.41 | iChatter | greycat: is there a tool that can transfer only the changed chunks of it? |
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| 20:52.43 | iChatter | ah |
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| 20:53.30 | greycat | maybe the rsync algorithms are more clever than I expect, and can handle a file whose middle changed not only content but size also... I dunno |
| 20:53.41 | adabo | Not that I'm complaining, but is there a way to switch without losing my irc session? |
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| 20:54.02 | greycat | adabo: in a running session, *SOME* window managers have an option to exec a different WM |
| 20:54.14 | greycat | or can be configured as such |
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| 20:54.36 | jhutchins | adabo: You can launch a new X session. |
| 20:54.55 | greycat | adabo: failing that, if your IRC client is terminal-based, you can run it inside screen, detach, kill X, login back in, reattach to screen. Or tmux equivalent. |
| 20:55.14 | jhutchins | adabo: The way a lot of us solve that dilemma is to run irssi within screen or tmux. You can disconnect and reconnect from another session, or even from another computer via ssh. |
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| 20:55.25 | greycat | Yes, it's a godsend. |
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| 20:55.38 | jhutchins | adabo: This instance is actually running on my home desktop; I'm connected via ssh from work. |
| 20:56.13 | greycat | You must not share your home Internet bandwidth with a bunch of teenagers. |
| 20:57.06 | greycat | /service/spamassassin: up (pid 3725) 468 seconds |
| 20:57.13 | greycat | Well, that looks promising so far. |
| 20:57.38 | adabo | jhutchins: Tmux. I remember in Windows I was reading some blog and an article said that "tmux was removed from sourceforge...", several weeks back when sourceforge was getting heat for all the crapware it was adding to the site. |
| 20:57.43 | jhutchins | greycat: Google Fiber. |
| 20:57.57 | jhutchins | greycat: But no, the cats don't use much bandwidth. |
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| 20:58.16 | greycat | Looks like tmux is "officially" on github now. |
| 20:58.19 | Zenox | When connecting to OpenVPN server on an ASUS router from a mobile it's impossible to access an internal server that in turn runs OpenVPN client to a service on the internet. When connecting to the server from LAN it's working. Anyone? |
| 20:58.24 | adabo | Then I clicked the link to look at tmux and said "I want that." Except it was for linux. I was sad. But now I"m on linux. Guess I should get it now :D |
| 20:58.52 | jhutchins | Zenox: You need to forward the VPN port from the router's external address to the internal server. |
| 20:58.54 | greycat | I never made the switch from screen (which has been around for decades) to tmux, but some people swear tmux is superior. |
| 20:59.00 | jeanjack | Hydroxide: hey back, it's jjck |
| 20:59.05 | jhutchins | Zenox: This is done with the router's settings menu. |
| 20:59.18 | jeanjack | can't found cache option for pvs |
| 20:59.25 | greycat | jhutchins: They hide the mousecam feeds when you are around. |
| 20:59.33 | jhutchins | greycat: Yeah, me niether, always meant to try it but screen is habitual. |
| 20:59.44 | adabo | I don't think I'm advanced enough for tmux yet. I barely know how to work a window manager. let alone switch between them properly. |
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| 20:59.51 | Zenox | jhutchins: But the internal computer I want to access is just running OpenVPN client (to a server on the internet), not a OpenVPN server |
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| 21:00.21 | jhutchins | Zenox: So your internal client can't reach the external server? |
| 21:00.56 | adabo | If I install tmux, will I have to restart irssi to put it 'inside' tmux? |
| 21:01.02 | jhutchins | Zenox: This could be a firewall setting on the router, or something on the target server. |
| 21:01.05 | greycat | adabo: yes |
| 21:01.10 | adabo | greycat: Ok |
| 21:01.15 | jhutchins | adabo: Yes, that's the drawback. |
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| 21:01.39 | adabo | Think I'll save the tmux adventures for another day. |
| 21:01.41 | jhutchins | adabo: There is actually a way to detach something within the bash shell, but it's not well known. I've done it but I don't remember the details. |
| 21:01.41 | adabo | o_o |
| 21:01.50 | Zenox | jhutchins: Yes that's no problem. It's when I try to access this internal computer from outside/internet (using a mobile fex) going through the OpenVPN server of the ASUS router |
| 21:02.09 | jhutchins | adabo: Invariably you discover you need to run something within screen _after_ you've launched it without screen. |
| 21:02.11 | greycat | jhutchins: The only thing like that is a Linux hack that allows you to change the terminal on which a program is running, but it may or may not work. |
| 21:02.49 | jhutchins | adabo: If you think of it in advance though, it's great for things that run for a long time - you don't have to keep the connection open; you're not tied to the computer you started it on. |
| 21:03.09 | cra1g321 | +1 for screen |
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| 21:03.23 | cxd13 | i'm looking for a graphical application that makes it easy to monitor connections made to the internet by applications. is there anything easier than wireshark? |
| 21:03.38 | greycat | Oh, looks like someone wrote another one of it in 2011. https://github.com/nelhage/reptyr |
| 21:03.39 | jhutchins | greycat: There's actually a way to detatch the program from the shell instance - it's essentially the same process that daemons use. Similar to Ctrl-Z, but it keeps running. |
| 21:03.41 | Zenox | jhutchins: Like so - Mobile connects to OpenVPN server (on router) and then tries to access a service (fex SSH) on 192.x.x.x doesn't work. |
| 21:03.51 | greycat | Maybe this 2011 version will actually work? Who knows. |
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| 21:04.26 | jhutchins | Zenox: The OpenVPN server on the router is not forwarding to the internal network then. |
| 21:04.27 | greycat | jhutchins: shell job control does not allow you to move the process to a different terminal. |
| 21:04.44 | jhutchins | Zenox: Most of us just forward the ssh port to the internal server. |
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| 21:04.57 | Zenox | jhutchins: If I try another computer (without OpenVPN client running) on the LAN it works. Or if I just turn of the OpenVPN client connection on the internal computer I want to access (but I want it running) |
| 21:05.01 | greycat | jhutchins: if you use bash's "disown" you cannot reattach to it from another terminal. It just runs in the background, |
| 21:05.13 | quantic | Properly configured, you won't need port forwarding. Either redirect the client's gateway, or push a route via OpenVPN to your internal network to the VPN client. |
| 21:05.17 | jhutchins | greycat: Yes, there is a way. You can detach the process from the terminal. (I'm not positive you can re-attach though.) |
| 21:05.27 | greycat | jhutchins: I am positive that you cannot. |
| 21:05.28 | jhutchins | greycat: So you may be essentially right. |
| 21:05.47 | greycat | jhutchins: that's why these reptyr things exist. Or whatever the older one was called. |
| 21:06.18 | Zenox | jhutchins: I think it forwards to the LAN as I can reach any computer just I disable the OpenVPN client on it first of all |
| 21:06.49 | jhutchins | greycat: Ah, Ctrl-Z, bg |
| 21:07.10 | jhutchins | greycat: I _think_ you can then fg in the order that items were bg'd. |
| 21:07.17 | greycat | jhutchins: yes, all of that is just shell job control. It doesn't let you MOVE the process, only disown/detach it. |
| 21:07.21 | jhutchins | greycat: Whether you can fg from a different session. |
| 21:07.25 | greycat | you cannot. |
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| 21:09.40 | Raku_ | I seem to have gotten everything working, but as far as im able to tell its not actually booting all the way unless i go in and remove quiet everytime i boot |
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| 21:10.08 | greycat | Raku_: comment out the quiet line in /etc/default/grub and rerun update-grub |
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| 21:13.15 | jhutchins | Oh, cool <command &! - backgrounds and disowns it! |
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| 21:13.39 | Niteye | hello, VLC is very unstable, eg. clicking on the seekbar will often make the video freeze (sound still working), only restarting vlc gets the video back, or some movies i never get picture only the cone icon, any idea if its a common thing ? |
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| 21:14.40 | jeanjack | Hydroxide: the command you suggested wad pvscan --cache instead of pvs --cache ? |
| 21:14.45 | jhutchins | greyness: repytr |
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| 21:16.06 | jhutchins | greyness: https://blog.nelhage.com/2011/01/reptyr-attach-a-running-process-to-a-new-terminal/ - not packaged. |
| 21:16.38 | jhutchins | Er.. |
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| 21:16.46 | jhutchins | Lost him. |
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| 21:22.05 | r6ku | Niteye: try smplayer or mpv, I've had problems with vlc freezing too |
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| 21:22.34 | cra1g321 | yeah same here for vlc, for opensuse and debian, ended up using smplayer |
| 21:24.46 | nick12345 | I know its not directly related to debian, but how do php scripts on web servers work? For example a script printing hello + the name you sent in a post parameter: will it execute the script every time a request to it is made? |
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| 21:28.59 | Niteye | i instaleld smplayer and its much faster in seeking, and video works in the movies where vlc couldnt decode it, and it also doesnt freeze when i seek more than 3 times, but i thought vlc was supposed to be the creme de la creme in video players |
| 21:29.04 | jhutchins | nick12345: It depends. PHP generates a web page, which can be cached by various mechanisms. |
| 21:29.06 | digdilem | the web server asks php to parse the file, and displays the output. nick12345 |
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| 21:30.43 | nick12345 | digdilem, so its a regular script with the only difference being how io works? |
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| 21:31.52 | digdilem | well, kinda - but the server provides some environment variables too. my answer was simplistic but that's the gist |
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| 21:32.31 | nick12345 | thanks |
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| 21:59.30 | garyDavid | Hi! |
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| 21:59.56 | garyDavid | How can I `wget` all of the .opus files in a web page/website? |
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| 22:01.16 | nick12345 | garyDavid, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4602153/how-do-i-use-wget-to-download-all-images-into-a-single-folder |
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| 22:11.32 | Vasistha | garyDavid: I like pavuk quite a bit for downloading many files |
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| 22:13.16 | kolombo | garyDavid, #wget may be a better place to ask |
| 22:13.51 | garyDavid | Thanks guys! |
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| 22:14.12 | garyDavid | Hi! |
| 22:14.16 | garyDavid | Ah sorry wrong send :p |
| 22:14.20 | kolombo | :) |
| 22:16.02 | nick12345 | imo this is the right place |
| 22:16.20 | nick12345 | seriously how many people actually sit in #wget? |
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| 22:17.45 | kolombo | 37 |
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| 22:18.20 | nick12345 | garyDavid, i sent you a link to stackoverflow where your question was solved https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4602153/how-do-i-use-wget-to-download-all-images-into-a-single-folder |
| 22:19.10 | nick12345 | change the image filetypes to opus |
| 22:19.27 | garyDavid | Haha I'm better off getting an answer there probably. |
| 22:19.28 | garyDavid | :p |
| 22:19.34 | garyDavid | nick12345: Yeah saw it. |
| 22:19.40 | garyDavid | nick12345: Just haven't done it yet :p |
| 22:20.14 | kolombo | does iceweasel (v31.8.0) in jessie get security patch for the exploit mentioned here: http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/0-day-attack-on-firefox-users-stole-password-and-key-data-patch-now/ ? |
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| 22:21.34 | r6ku | kolombo: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/iceweasel |
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| 22:22.05 | garyDavid | kolombo: You do have the security repo right? |
| 22:22.15 | kolombo | thank you r6ku |
| 22:22.17 | garyDavid | And you're subscribed to the Debian security advisories? |
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| 22:22.28 | garyDavid | Gah what a silly statement I said :p |
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| 22:22.40 | kolombo | I have default repositories |
| 22:23.25 | kolombo | security.debian.org is one of them |
| 22:23.45 | r6ku | kolombo: you're safe then :) |
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| 22:23.49 | tpw_rules | my bridge between lan0 and lan1 will not work on boot until i take it apart, delete it, and recreate it again. http://pastie.org/private/zc83ptjoit3xoj5xpgyaq note that lan0 is wlan controlled by hostapd, so i'm using bridge=br0 in that config. also note that wan1 isn't used for anything and its hardware isn't attached |
| 22:23.51 | kolombo | great :) |
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| 22:26.16 | garyDavid | kolombo: https://www.debian.org/security/ |
| 22:26.23 | garyDavid | kolombo: Just in case :p |
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| 22:38.41 | itaru | yes hello |
| 22:39.31 | itaru | Is there a meta package bundling basic packages such as man, sudo, and less |
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| 22:39.53 | vandox | core-essentials |
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| 22:43.36 | itaru | where |
| 22:44.01 | jmcnaught | i don't think core-essentials exists on debian, maybe a different distro |
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| 22:45.35 | jmcnaught | itaru: a lot of important stuff can be found in the required, standard, and important priorities in apt |
| 22:46.00 | jmcnaught | itaru: "aptitude search ~pimportant" for example includes man |
| 22:46.06 | n0arch | do you mean 'coreutils' |
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| 22:50.53 | itaru | ah |
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| 23:20.47 | ps_ | hi |
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| 23:21.01 | itaru | ps_: aux |
| 23:21.14 | ps_ | anyone know an app that can display your current desktop inside a window? |
| 23:21.37 | Vasistha | ps_: maybe give a little more context as to what you are trying to do |
| 23:21.39 | ps_ | or a workaround? |
| 23:21.47 | ps_ | ok |
| 23:22.03 | Vasistha | ps_: taking a screenshot is not difficult, if that's all you need |
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| 23:23.19 | arahael | ps_: xnest, xepher (sp?) |
| 23:24.18 | ps_ | I want to screenshare my left monitor, but for some reason both monitors get shared (dual monitor set up...). The person seeing my screenshare has a low res monitor so unfortunately seeing my full screen is not an option. I've trying checking nvidia monitor settings and.... |
| 23:24.38 | arahael | Ah... xvncserver or the like. |
| 23:25.16 | arahael | If network latency/bandwidth is an issue (ie, you're doing this over the internet), I've heard great reviews for NoMachine's NX Desktop, but I haven't tried that. |
| 23:25.21 | ps_ | can't et it to work with the screenshare software. An alternative option is to screenshare a window.....if there is an app that can capture a screen monitor and display inside a window then that would be fantatic |
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| 23:27.08 | arahael | ps_: "the screenshare software"? |
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| 23:27.44 | arahael | ps_: The grammar indicates you have a specific product you're trying to use? Contrast this with "xvncserver is _a_ screenshare software". |
| 23:28.02 | ps_ | arahael: I had a look at those but I think xnest/xephyr will display both my monitors...not one |
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| 23:28.36 | ps_ | screenshare software = google hangouts |
| 23:29.02 | arahael | ps_: You are still vague and unclear, and xnest/xephyr won't display both monitors. Ah, google hangouts. I really should reinvestigate that. Run that _within_ xnest, then. |
| 23:29.54 | ps_ | if you use Google hangouts you can "screenshare" similar to teamviewer. The only problem is you can't screenshare a specific monitor if using 2 monitors on linux.You can for windows and mac.....but unsurprising you cant with linux |
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| 23:31.04 | arahael | ps_: Run it _within_ xnest/xephyr, then. I don't think you understand what they do. |
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| 23:32.06 | ps_ | let me be very clear. I have 2 monitors. I just want to display everything in my left monitor within a window which I will screencast in google hangouts. M right monitor I will use to do work on apps that the person viewing my screencast isn't interested in |
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| 23:33.12 | arahael | ps_: xnest/xephyr. Runs a new desktop in a window, at a specified resolution. Run hangouts within that, export the whole desktop (which would be constrained to that window, unless hangouts does awful hacks) |
| 23:33.36 | ps_ | using those apps seems overkill...I would have thought there be something simpler? |
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| 23:34.36 | arahael | ps_: They're low-level, but not overkill. You're keen on using hangouts, so you need a low-level way to manipulate a shortcoming of it. This is is the linux way. |
| 23:34.56 | arahael | ps_: The only alternatives are: 1) Complain to google hangouts that their product is unusable, _and_why_. 2) Use a different product. |
| 23:35.55 | ps_ | unfortuntely it has to be hangouts. |
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| 23:36.23 | arahael | ps_: I don't think you're reading everything I'm saying. It almost seems that every time I say two things, you miss one of them. |
| 23:36.32 | ps_ | is there any difference using xnest or xephyr - no difference? |
| 23:36.55 | Vasistha | is there any difference between using google hangouts and skype? They are different projects. |
| 23:37.04 | ps_ | sorry im not the fastest typer |
| 23:37.21 | ps_ | no, it's a company thing...i have to use hangouts |
| 23:37.44 | Vasistha | my point is, xephyr and xnest are different projects. Try one and see if it works. If you have trouble, try the other. |
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| 23:38.20 | garyDavid | Hi! |
| 23:38.33 | garyDavid | nick12345: You there? |
| 23:38.42 | arahael | Vasistha: That's probably the best summary in this context. |
| 23:38.48 | garyDavid | nick12345: I'm trying to download all of the .pdf |
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| 23:39.21 | garyDavid | nick12345: ... all of the .pdf's in a site with wget. Nothing from the Stack Overflow worked for me. |
| 23:39.47 | garyDavid | So there's this dir, in it are sub-dir's with the PDFs I want to download |
| 23:39.56 | garyDavid | nick12345: How do I go about this? |
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| 23:41.13 | cafuego | garyDavid: wget -m ? |
| 23:42.04 | garyDavid | cafuego: wget -m <link> ? |
| 23:42.20 | ps_ | btw - here is a the dual monitor linux issue if anyone is interested - ttps://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=437507 |
| 23:42.34 | arahael | ps_: It makes no difference. |
| 23:43.08 | cafuego | garyDavid: pretty much. depends on the site. Is it just a directory listing generated by a web server, or actual html code with links to pdfs? |
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| 23:44.11 | garyDavid | cafuego: https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2023/DEF%20CON%2023%20presentations/ |
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| 23:44.30 | garyDavid | I want to download the PDFs in the `speaker/presentations` dir. |
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| 23:46.05 | cafuego | garyDavid: wget -m -np link |
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| 23:46.21 | cafuego | garyDavid: that'll fetch the html, images, txt files too.. |
| 23:46.31 | ps_ | ok i done some googling and found this useful response on xnest / xephyr. http://askubuntu.com/questions/175902/remote-x-server-with-ssh-x |
| 23:46.33 | garyDavid | Nah just the PDFs |
| 23:46.48 | ps_ | thank arahael |
| 23:46.48 | cafuego | garyDavid: yeah, throw away the rest when done. |
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| 23:46.57 | garyDavid | Gah |
| 23:47.00 | garyDavid | There should be a way |
| 23:47.09 | cafuego | garyDavid: Or check the wget docs on how to filter out the PDFs :-) |
| 23:47.11 | garyDavid | cafuego: See if you find something here: p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; } https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4602153/how-do-i-use-wget-to-download-all-images-into-a-single-folder |
| 23:47.17 | garyDavid | Haha damn that's gonna be a lot of time. |
| 23:47.22 | cafuego | but just fetching the subdir and then theowinf |
| 23:47.23 | arahael | ps_: xnest and xepher aren't ideal with ssh. Just use remote x11 already (which is not an option for hangouts, and besides, doesn't do sharing) |
| 23:47.35 | cafuego | garyDavid: Um no, I'm not reading docs for you. |
| 23:47.35 | garyDavid | Or how about |
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| 23:48.16 | garyDavid | I go in the 'speaker presentations' folder then sort of do a rm -r * ? |
| 23:48.30 | garyDavid | But instead of removing - of course - I `wget`. |
| 23:48.34 | cafuego | just run my wget and then move the pdfs to where you want them. delete the rest. done. |
| 23:48.36 | Vasistha | garyDavid: find ! -name \*.pdf -exec rm {} + |
| 23:48.52 | garyDavid | cafuego: Yeah |
| 23:48.54 | garyDavid | cafuego: :D |
| 23:48.58 | garyDavid | cafuego: Thanks a lot! |
| 23:49.01 | cafuego | no need to make it harder |
| 23:49.20 | ps_ | arahael: out of curiosity can i do the same thing with vnc? |
| 23:49.46 | garyDavid | cafuego: Gah gives me error 404. |
| 23:50.10 | arahael | ps_: vnc is an alternative screen sharing software, but yes, it would have the same overall end result, as it brings up a window you could then share with hangouts. A bit overkill but it'd work just as well. |
| 23:50.10 | ps_ | one of the responses in that link i shared suggests doing it via vnc is way easier |
| 23:50.52 | cafuego | garyDavid: runs fine here |
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| 23:51.47 | arahael | ps_: You are experiencing the "tyranny of choice". |
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| 23:53.33 | cxd13 | are there any keylogging applications in debian repos? |
| 23:53.36 | ps_ | the less command line the better. vnc it is |
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| 23:54.03 | Miesco | Hi, whats the best terminal music player? |
| 23:54.08 | garyDavid | cafuego: Doesn't for me -_- |
| 23:54.09 | Vasistha | ps_: good luck! |
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| 23:54.47 | Vasistha | Miesco: I use nvlc and mplayer |
| 23:54.48 | ps_ | i'll provide feedback here....very soon i hope |
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| 23:58.14 | arahael | ps_: Xnest :1 & DISPLAY=:1 lxdesktop & |
| 23:58.33 | arahael | ps_: That runs xnest with LXDE (I don't use gnome or kde, so don't know how to start those) |
| 23:58.42 | Miesco | Vasistha: I can't find the package in the manager |
| 23:59.33 | tpw_rules | my bridge between lan0 and lan1 will not work on boot until i take it apart, delete it, and recreate it again. http://pastie.org/private/zc83ptjoit3xoj5xpgyaq note that lan0 is wlan controlled by hostapd, so i'm using bridge=br0 in that config. also note that wan1 isn't used for anything and its hardware isn't attached |
| 23:59.39 | Vasistha | Miesco: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=vlc |
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| 23:59.49 | Vasistha | Miesco: https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=all§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=mplayer |
