| 00:00.02 | x86iac | you listen to her? i just watch |
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| 00:05.18 | thenewone | Hi guys again :) i cant fing the dwm-tools ? is it under other name or what ? |
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| 00:05.42 | wufufufu | hey guys |
| 00:05.47 | wufufufu | just found out i accidentally installed sid |
| 00:05.53 | wufufufu | LOL |
| 00:05.59 | RoyK | hehe |
| 00:06.09 | wufufufu | and now i have too much set up to want to reinstall |
| 00:06.16 | wufufufu | any tips? |
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| 00:06.39 | thenewone | any ideas about dwm-tools ? |
| 00:06.45 | Azazell | x86iac, is gnash that more secure? |
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| 00:07.21 | wufufufu | so is there anyway to downgrade from sid first of all |
| 00:07.29 | mtn | wufufufu, nope |
| 00:07.37 | wufufufu | gg |
| 00:07.38 | RoyK | no way to downgrade |
| 00:07.40 | mtn | wufufufu, time for a new install and do it right this time ;) |
| 00:07.44 | RoyK | just reinstall |
| 00:07.54 | wufufufu | fk |
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| 00:08.32 | zykotick9 | wufufufu: next time, don't mix releases! see "/msg dpkg ssbp" for the proper way to get newer software into stable... |
| 00:10.12 | masonik | I have a problem with fstab load order. The problem is detailed here --> http://paste.debian.net/291803 |
| 00:10.16 | x86iac | i think google new name alphabet is gonna get the greeks mad |
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| 00:12.45 | zykotick9 | masonik: all i have to say is your "rep" drive is on NTFS? Best of luck... i've got nothin'... also, i use /mnt the root as a temporary mount point only - you might want to consider using /srv/foo but YMMV... |
| 00:12.51 | wufufufu | so uh what's the easiest way to reinstall without too much reconfiguration |
| 00:13.34 | Bashmetim | make backups first? |
| 00:14.17 | masonik | is it more likely to work if a reformatted it to ext4? |
| 00:14.33 | masonik | /srv/foo but YMMV? |
| 00:14.37 | masonik | :) |
| 00:14.49 | RoyK | anyone using ntfs on linux? |
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| 00:15.00 | maazu | me! |
| 00:15.06 | zykotick9 | wufufufu: additional note to above's "make backups first", is you might run into issues, backing up your ~ .dirs due to version differences... just something to keep in mind if programs aren't working as expected after. |
| 00:15.09 | SaveTheRobots | masonik: if you're using systemd, you can specify x-systemd.requires in fstab |
| 00:15.22 | Bashmetim | masonik, why are you mounting to /mnt/rep then gettin files from /media/corsair - am I missing something? |
| 00:15.22 | wufufufu | ls |
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| 00:16.17 | Bashmetim | also, if you install ntfs utils you should be able to use it completely agnostic of the filesystsm |
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| 00:17.01 | Bashmetim | also also YMMV = your mileage may vary :) |
| 00:17.09 | zykotick9 | masonik: re "/srv/foo but YMMV?" i mean you can create directories under /srv like /srv/rep as an example. YMMV = Your Millage May Vary |
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| 00:17.44 | masonik | Bashmetim: well spotted. I should sleep... :/ |
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| 00:18.19 | Bashmetim | lemme know if it works a-ok if you just mount to /media/corsair :) |
| 00:18.31 | masonik | zykotick9: i'll look into using /srv/ |
| 00:18.45 | Brigo | RoyK, at least masonik is using ntfs, why? |
| 00:18.58 | masonik | up side is i now have experience of using the emergency mode |
| 00:19.39 | masonik | i'm using ntfs so i can use it easily on windoze systems |
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| 00:19.57 | RoyK | Brigo: ntfs is windows stuff - don't use it unless you need to copy something off it and get rid of the thing |
| 00:20.10 | Bashmetim | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:20.26 | RoyK | just two diferent mountpoints |
| 00:20.31 | Brigo | RoyK, we know it, why are you asking? |
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| 00:20.35 | masonik | i'm remigrating to linux from windows |
| 00:21.04 | RoyK | then just mount that ntfs volume, rsync the shite over to a raid and get rid of it |
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| 00:21.31 | Bashmetim | If the external drive needs to work on windows, then ntfs is fine, reformatting would be totally pointless |
| 00:21.48 | Bashmetim | RoyK: why? |
| 00:22.01 | RoyK | if you need an external drive, use a hmoe server or a nas |
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| 00:22.09 | masonik | RoyK: I work with windows as well... most people don't know linux exists |
| 00:22.11 | RoyK | easier, safer etc |
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| 00:22.26 | masonik | nas is my next move.. |
| 00:22.31 | masonik | <-- poor man here |
| 00:22.34 | masonik | :D |
| 00:22.59 | Bashmetim | imo the "kill it with fire" attitude toward ntfs is just unix wizard snobbery |
| 00:23.29 | masonik | Bashmetim: <-- what he said |
| 00:23.31 | masonik | :p |
| 00:23.39 | RoyK | masonik: if you say most people don't know linux exists, you have dumb friends. linux runs most TVs and phones these days, and all of the machines at the european space station run debian et cetera et cetera ad infinitum |
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| 00:24.17 | masonik | friends? the average person uses windows not linux |
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| 00:24.36 | masonik | linux, for the most part, is not user friendly |
| 00:24.39 | RoyK | masonik: no, most people use linux all the time without knowing they're using it |
| 00:24.42 | Bashmetim | And I exclusively use linux in my day to day use, but I'm not gonna pretend windows doesn't have a ton of users or that it doesn't work or isn't useful |
| 00:25.07 | masonik | RoyK: Reinforces my point |
| 00:25.18 | RoyK | does not |
| 00:25.36 | masonik | "without knowing they're using it" |
| 00:25.55 | RoyK | yeah - hehe - let people know what they're doing |
| 00:26.05 | masonik | ;) |
| 00:26.15 | masonik | that is my intention |
| 00:26.19 | RoyK | hey - I have this little android phone and it works well - fuck linux! |
| 00:26.32 | SaveTheRobots | your average joe doesn't give a crap what OS is running on his phone, he cares about his candy crush score :p |
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| 00:26.36 | masonik | it is based of linux... |
| 00:26.38 | Bashmetim | Someone's not an idiot just because they lack some specific knowledge |
| 00:26.46 | masonik | haha |
| 00:26.48 | RoyK | masonik: my point - it's linux |
| 00:26.50 | pycoderf | if i go from jessie to testing in my repos i should always be on testing and that is essentially rolling release? |
| 00:26.56 | Brigo | masonik, it is not base on linux, it is a pure linux. |
| 00:27.00 | zykotick9 | Bashmetim: ntfs lacks posix permission, imo that makes it unsuitable for general usage... FAT is what i use for cross compatibility with the outside world (also non-posix compilant) |
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| 00:27.04 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: yup |
| 00:27.14 | sfg1 | http://pastie.org/10347330 |
| 00:27.23 | Brigo | pycoderf, yes and no, it is not a rolling release, it is a testing repository. |
| 00:27.23 | pycoderf | now if only esxi could do clones |
| 00:27.34 | pycoderf | but if i switch to testing i will always be testing |
| 00:27.35 | sfg1 | any idea whays up? |
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| 00:27.48 | pycoderf | i used to always use testing to keep semi current' |
| 00:27.54 | Brigo | masonik, but linux is only the kernel. |
| 00:27.55 | x86iac | problem being ntfs is a better performing fs then most linux ones are |
| 00:27.55 | RoyK | pycoderf: iirc it can with some extensions |
| 00:28.02 | masonik | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_%28operating_system%29 |
| 00:28.04 | Bashmetim | zykotick9: yeah, but sometimes you've got an ntfs drive and you've got to use it. It doesn't make sense to format it on general priciple |
| 00:28.14 | masonik | "Android is a mobile operating system (OS) based on the Linux kernel " |
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| 00:28.18 | pycoderf | i want to stay pretty current so testing should be fine for me? |
| 00:28.32 | x86iac | Brigo: you are full of unix wizard snobbery |
| 00:28.42 | RoyK | pycoderf: I'll be setting up some test machines with intel 750 PCIe based SSDs soon for vmware vsan - should be nice for a test |
| 00:28.44 | masonik | hahaha |
| 00:28.53 | Brigo | x86iac, not a bit, i think. |
| 00:28.55 | zykotick9 | Bashmetim: well the "you've" applying to me wouldn't be correct, but i know what you mean ;) |
| 00:29.05 | pycoderf | testign will be more up to date than jessie correct? |
| 00:29.21 | Brigo | pycoderf, correct. |
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| 00:29.48 | Brigo | pycoderf, testing is for testing new packages, that is all. |
| 00:29.53 | Bashmetim | ha, good point - basically just saying ntfs exists, and The Universal Operating System should have no problems making use of it if need be |
| 00:30.00 | masonik | anyways.. i'm going to get this ntfs piece of slag running nicely in my *nix box |
| 00:30.05 | masonik | cheers for the tips |
| 00:30.05 | RoyK | pycoderf: ever tested vsan? |
| 00:30.15 | pycoderf | no |
| 00:30.19 | masonik | will be back if it breaks again |
| 00:30.32 | pycoderf | Brigo my goal is be current without nessesarily breaking all of the things like in unstbale |
| 00:30.43 | RoyK | pycoderf: those SSDs should be doing 350kiops or so |
| 00:31.02 | Brigo | masonik, android and debian are differents operating system, just they share the kernel. |
| 00:31.03 | RoyK | 430kips, that was, for reads |
| 00:31.15 | RoyK | 230kiops for writes |
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| 00:31.23 | pycoderf | time to roll my db server to testing |
| 00:31.33 | Brigo | pycoderf, there is so such thing as be current and stable. You have to choose. |
| 00:31.38 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: testing might be your best bet, or jesse with backports |
| 00:31.39 | RoyK | pycoderf: you'd want some of those SSDs :D |
| 00:31.58 | masonik | so i can get debian running on my z2 phone? |
| 00:32.02 | SaveTheRobots | depends how current you want to be and with which packages, you could also custom compile the packages you want to stay current on |
| 00:32.19 | RoyK | masonik: probably not - but cyanogenmod might work |
| 00:32.23 | pycoderf | not going to custom compile |
| 00:32.25 | sfg1 | Depends: libmtp9 (= 1.1.3-35-g0ece104-5) but 1.1.8-1~bpo70+1 is installed |
| 00:32.40 | pycoderf | going to just snapshot this and roll to testing |
| 00:32.48 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: go for testing then, or 3rd party repos (which some people frown on) |
| 00:33.10 | pycoderf | yeah i ran testing on other boxes for awhile without issue |
| 00:33.15 | Brigo | masonik, yes, and download the installer from google play, but with the android kernel configuration. |
| 00:33.39 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: yeah, i run rolling distros all the time and never really have issues |
| 00:33.46 | SaveTheRobots | arch/gentoo(unstable)/etc |
| 00:34.06 | pycoderf | i am going to snap and roll one box at a time. if it goes fine then merge snap and call it good |
| 00:34.08 | masonik | Brigo: i'm guessing the odds of bricking it are good though? |
| 00:34.08 | zykotick9 | would never run a rolling distro again... |
| 00:34.13 | Brigo | pycoderf, if you try testig, remember testing is no supporting here, ask in #debian-next channel, in oftc server. |
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| 00:34.38 | pycoderf | isnt it still technically debian? and if it is more current than jessie then it is more usefult o me |
| 00:34.39 | Brigo | masonik, no, it is intalled within android as a container. |
| 00:34.58 | Brigo | pycoderf, it is pure debian, yes. |
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| 00:35.10 | masonik | zykotick9: you wouldn't need to run it, just give it a push and let it run it's self |
| 00:35.12 | zykotick9 | pycoderf: IMO (and it's not worth much) debian = stable, testing/sid aren't debian IMO (they're the development branches)... just food for thought YMMV |
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| 00:35.43 | Brigo | zykotick9, i agree. |
| 00:35.43 | pycoderf | zykotick9: well beats outdated packages and testing was stable enough when used in the past |
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| 00:36.01 | Andre483 | is there a way to force samba require login after samba disconnects ? |
| 00:36.12 | pycoderf | not really a good distro to stay pretty current without being gentoo/arch |
| 00:36.17 | zykotick9 | masonik: i remember week long gentoo stage1 compiles on 450mhz boxes, and arch breaks <- i like my computers to work ALWAYS, that's why i love debian (stable) |
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| 00:36.48 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: you could track unstable, or fedora, which is pretty up to date and cutting edge |
| 00:36.51 | masonik | Brigo: That is interesting... would I be able to use all the sensors and phone abilities within deb? |
| 00:37.09 | pycoderf | SaveTheRobots: testing is a good middle ground for the time being |
| 00:37.40 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: definitely |
| 00:37.56 | pycoderf | my workstatuon at work is fedora |
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| 00:38.23 | masonik | zykotick9: I am much the same. I had a WD HDD that had an up life-time of around 5 years. It broke in windows so now i am here with linux |
| 00:38.43 | SaveTheRobots | nice, i really like fedora, they like to be cutting edge and development is always rapid |
| 00:38.46 | SaveTheRobots | dat selinux too |
| 00:39.00 | RoyK | masonik: it would have roken on linux too ;) |
| 00:39.01 | pycoderf | selinux never gets in my way |
| 00:39.08 | masonik | i think it far outlived it's warranty |
| 00:39.09 | pycoderf | i dont think fedora would be good on a server though |
| 00:39.10 | Brigo | masonik, i don't think so. |
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| 00:39.28 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: agreed, lots of people seem to bemoan selinux and its complexity but i find it pretty easy :\ |
| 00:39.31 | masonik | Brigo: the wifi? |
| 00:39.43 | RoyK | masonik: most of those have 5y warranty, or used to have that |
| 00:39.48 | RoyK | masonik: check it |
| 00:39.51 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: indeed, that's why there's RHEL/centos/SL :D |
| 00:39.54 | Brigo | masonik, i have never used it, so i can't actually tell you. |
| 00:39.56 | pycoderf | SaveTheRobots: I run debian servers at my house because they are a little mroe current than centos 7 and seem to work |
| 00:40.08 | masonik | RoyK: That was the ON time... |
| 00:40.25 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: good choice, i run a mix of debian and RHEL on my servers, both have their merits |
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| 00:40.40 | pycoderf | yeah db moved to testing seems ok thus far |
| 00:40.44 | pycoderf | but nothing mission critical here at ome |
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| 00:41.03 | masonik | *rebooting* |
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| 00:41.52 | cxd13 | how do windows and osx manage to be pretty reliable and stable while being bleeding edge compared to linux? |
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| 00:42.27 | bazhang | cxd13, try the offtopic channel |
| 00:42.28 | pycoderf | SaveTheRobots: what other server distro would you recommend to stay pretty current |
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| 00:44.26 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: "server distro" doesn't really go with "pretty current" imo |
| 00:44.37 | pycoderf | fair enough |
| 00:44.41 | SaveTheRobots | server distros should be stable, first and foremost, which means you lose out on being current |
| 00:45.22 | SaveTheRobots | freebsd is nice if you want a current-ish server though ;) |
| 00:45.44 | pycoderf | thought about it |
| 00:46.35 | SaveTheRobots | have you thought about maybe debian/ubuntu/centos stable, with newer services hosted inside containers (like LXC) ? |
| 00:46.47 | SaveTheRobots | then if your current services go tits up, your server is still stable |
| 00:47.30 | pycoderf | i have not |
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| 00:48.38 | pycoderf | i think the whole idea of compiling puts me off |
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| 00:49.09 | SaveTheRobots | might be worth a look, you can keep your stable base OS, and compartmentalise your services into their own containers, making them as up to date as you like, you can also snapshot/freeze/other cool stuff them |
| 00:49.16 | SaveTheRobots | you don't need to compile |
| 00:49.37 | anewfish | yo |
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| 00:49.49 | SaveTheRobots | install stable debian, install LXC, download premade LXC debian image to new container, then update it to testing/unstable |
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| 00:52.23 | eadthem | I have a install of jessie that has video issues shortly after booting to console unless booting as recovery in grub |
| 00:52.49 | eadthem | what is the config program you run to edit the boot command to add or remove options in debian? |
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| 00:53.25 | cologate | grub-mkconfig ? |
| 00:53.40 | SaveTheRobots | eadthem: edit /etc/default/grub then grub-mkconfig |
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| 00:53.55 | pycoderf | SaveTheRobots: I think i might just stick to testing for the time being |
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| 00:54.47 | SaveTheRobots | pycoderf: probably best :)... i'd recommend looking into LXC when you're bored though, each container is a separate lightweight native-performing OS install, separate from the host OS |
| 00:55.07 | SaveTheRobots | each container can be a different OS minimal OS install running a separate service |
| 00:55.14 | pycoderf | this month ihave alot going on including my rhce so after that maybe freebsd/lxc |
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| 00:55.37 | SaveTheRobots | hehe ok, and good luck with your RHCE |
| 00:56.05 | pycoderf | studying now. going to be fun |
| 00:56.18 | SaveTheRobots | it's worth it |
| 00:56.30 | SaveTheRobots | RHCE/RHCSA are easily the most recognised linux certs |
| 00:56.57 | SaveTheRobots | anyways, i should get some sleep, night o/ |
| 00:57.01 | pycoderf | already have csa on rhel7 |
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| 01:11.45 | Andre483 | anyone know if there is a way to force samba to require login after samba disconnects ? |
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| 01:15.07 | eadthem | i am not seeing any useful options for configuring the kernel command line paramters |
| 01:15.20 | eadthem | in /etc/default/grub |
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| 01:22.14 | zykotick9 | eadthem: see GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet" in /etc/default/grub... |
| 01:22.42 | zykotick9 | eadthem: sorry, in might not have "quiet"... |
| 01:22.50 | zykotick9 | s/in/it/ |
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| 01:23.11 | eadthem | thats all its passing? |
| 01:23.24 | zykotick9 | by default... |
| 01:23.29 | eadthem | i see that line but suprised it dosent have more |
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| 01:23.53 | eadthem | so where is the command line for recovery mode? |
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| 01:24.43 | zykotick9 | is GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true" set? |
| 01:24.48 | FemAnon | how do I go from single user mode to multi user mode in tty1? |
| 01:24.53 | eadthem | its false and enabled |
| 01:25.31 | zykotick9 | eadthem: i see, what do you want to add to recovery? FYI - i have no idea how it sets kernel options... |
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| 01:25.46 | zykotick9 | ^ for recovery |
| 01:25.50 | FemAnon | also, i need a hex editor that is available in debian base - is there one? I need to open a huge hard disk and edit the first line |
| 01:26.02 | pheeps | At installation time, do I get a panel to select video modes, like 1024x768, or 1920x1080? |
| 01:26.06 | eadthem | i need to compare the 2 command lines so i can figure out why recovery works |
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| 01:26.21 | eadthem | and i loose video on normal mode as soon as it hits terminal |
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| 01:27.20 | zykotick9 | eadthem: ahhh. have a look at /proc/cmdline perhaps? good luck. |
| 01:27.24 | pheeps | FemAnon: enter "startx" at cmd line |
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| 01:28.55 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: if your system uses systemd, the command "systemctl isolate multi-user.target" will bring you to multiple users but not graphical mode. Use graphical.target if you want the display manager to load up |
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| 01:29.28 | pheeps | FemAnon: how big is your hard disk? how much RAM do you have? |
| 01:29.29 | FemAnon | anyone know how I can edit a single line of hex data with debian base? jessie. |
| 01:29.42 | FemAnon | pheeps the hard disk is larger than the ram by far |
| 01:30.13 | FemAnon | jmcnaught, says operation refused, unit may not be isolated |
| 01:32.03 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: do you know which target you are on right now ("systemctl get-default"). Is there anything in the journal after you use the isolate command? ("journalctl --since -2m") |
| 01:32.34 | FemAnon | jmcnaught, graphical.target |
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| 01:33.11 | FemAnon | that log just has two entries regarding cron.weekly |
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| 01:33.46 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: sorry, i was mistaken that get-default command doesn't show the current target, just the default one. Are you in some sort of recovery console? |
| 01:34.26 | FemAnon | jmcnaught, just installed debian base on this usb drive. not knowingly in a recovery console |
| 01:35.16 | masonik | new problem... :/ |
| 01:35.19 | masonik | http://snag.gy/stryM.jpg |
| 01:35.24 | masonik | pic says it all |
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| 01:36.23 | masonik | How do I get rid of the duplicate entries? |
| 01:36.55 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: so you booted for the first time and brought you to a text console with a login prompt? Also vim can be used as a hex editor from what I recall, not sure if the vi that comes with a base install will do it though |
| 01:37.20 | eadthem | zykotick9 http://final.servegame.com/bootOptions.png This is what im use to seeing, I think nomodeset will probably do it however. so ile try that in the grub settings |
| 01:37.42 | eadthem | but it would still be nice to know where the config file for that is stored, Image from OpenSuSE |
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| 01:39.39 | zykotick9 | eadthem: good luck. nomodeset is probably a great idea to add to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= if you are having video problems with nvidia/ati... |
| 01:39.56 | eadthem | its a Trident Blade |
| 01:40.04 | FemAnon | jmcnaught, does vi put the whole file into ram? |
| 01:40.25 | zykotick9 | eadthem: i have zero personal experience with Trident... good luck. |
| 01:40.32 | eadthem | its a cheep offbrand |
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| 01:40.53 | eadthem | if it wernt a laptop it would be a ati/amd card by now |
| 01:40.55 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: i'm still learning systemd myself, but "systemctl list-units -t target" should give you a list of targets in a table, you could look for ones that are not active and use "systemctl status ..." for more clues |
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| 01:41.29 | mynickname | hello, everyone |
| 01:41.45 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: it does not load the full file into RAM as far as I know. xxd(1) might be another option for you |
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| 01:43.36 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: heh.. xxd is part of vim, but if you have it installed it can be used separately |
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| 01:44.19 | FemAnon | jmcnaught, i have vi vim and xxd |
| 01:44.27 | Andre483 | anyone know if there is a way to force samba to require login after samba disconnects ? |
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| 01:45.11 | jmcnaught | FemAnon: judging from the examples in the xxd manpage it looks like it can be used for this, but it also looks easy to do too much too |
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| 01:48.18 | eadthem | nomodeset didnt help |
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| 01:50.20 | eadthem | not sure whats happening, keyboard also dosent work (numlock capslock scroll lock) |
| 01:50.29 | eadthem | power button will cause it to do a safe shut down |
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| 01:52.51 | FemAnon | not worth it. anyone have a recommended GUI hex editor? something with side by side view, simple, gui |
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| 01:53.19 | masonik | can anyone help me out with removing the duplicate entries in this ---> http://snag.gy/stryM.jpg |
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| 01:54.43 | masonik | /home/srv/rep/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso on /media/deb-dvd3 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user=corsair) [Debian 8.1.0 amd64 3] |
| 01:54.46 | masonik | /home/srv/rep/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso on /media/deb-dvd2 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user=corsair) [Debian 8.1.0 amd64 2] |
| 01:54.48 | masonik | /home/srv/rep/debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso on /media/deb-dvd1 type iso9660 (ro,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,user=corsair) [Debian 8.1.0 amd64 1] |
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| 01:55.18 | masonik | i think it has something to do with the [Debian*.... ] |
| 01:55.38 | x86iac | masonik: is there suppose to be an image there or is my malware detection/protection code actually working? |
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| 01:56.02 | x86iac | if what you just pasted is the stuff - those are 3 different things |
| 01:56.22 | x86iac | FemAnon: vimdiff |
| 01:57.06 | FemAnon | x86iac, less simple, more gui |
| 01:57.11 | masonik | deb-dvd1 is the mount and is working... Debian 8.1.0 amd6 1 is a duplicate entry |
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| 01:58.02 | masonik | i did mount -l and can see the problem but don't know how to change it |
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| 01:58.30 | masonik | x86iac: there is an image there.. maybe your malware detection :) |
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| 01:58.47 | masonik | which means i may have been bugged |
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| 01:59.23 | x86iac | gvimdiff ;) |
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| 01:59.39 | x86iac | FemAnon: more cowbell? |
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| 01:59.53 | masonik | mwoar cowbell!! |
| 02:00.02 | masonik | don't fear the reaper |
| 02:00.29 | karlpinc | FemAnon: Use emacs. It's got a gui. :-) |
| 02:01.08 | karlpinc | Ctrl-x, split-window-vertically |
| 02:01.13 | x86iac | less simple? |
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| 02:05.18 | pheeps | cowbell . . . LoL |
| 02:06.09 | masonik | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCd0OjjCz88 |
| 02:06.15 | masonik | cowbell |
| 02:07.50 | pheeps | At installation time in v8, do I get a panel to select video modes, like 1024x768, or 1920x1080? |
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| 02:09.57 | incal | how can I convert a JPEG to a file with the size of an A4 so I can print it and get as big an image as possible? |
| 02:10.09 | greyness | http://paste.justla.me/?id=77 Any ideas? |
| 02:10.23 | x86iac | after you can use xrandr -s 1024x768 |
| 02:10.31 | pheeps | incal: use the Gimp application |
| 02:10.50 | x86iac | jpgtotiff ? |
| 02:11.02 | incal | must be CLI tool |
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| 02:11.17 | x86iac | convert? |
| 02:11.31 | udp-packet | ImageMagick might have something |
| 02:11.35 | x86iac | ^^ from imagemagick |
| 02:11.42 | cologate | http://www.imagemagick.org/script/convert.php |
| 02:11.52 | udp-packet | :) |
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| 02:12.43 | udp-packet | ImageMagick is my best friend when it comes to processing/manipulating images in scripts |
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| 02:13.31 | incal | so how would you do this particular task with convert? |
| 02:14.48 | cologate | convert yourimage -resize 595x842 -gravity center -background white -extent 595x842 resultimage |
| 02:14.56 | cologate | source: http://www.imagemagick.org/discourse-server/viewtopic.php?t=19520 |
| 02:15.29 | incal | cologate: cool, brb |
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| 02:16.50 | udp-packet | ImageMagick saves the day again. |
| 02:17.58 | x86iac | imagemagick | middle_east |
| 02:18.02 | cologate | *triumphant music* |
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| 02:18.25 | x86iac | dirge |
| 02:18.48 | pheeps | what's so hard about my question? |
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| 02:18.59 | x86iac | i think i answered you |
| 02:19.05 | pheeps | nobody knows the answer? |
| 02:19.12 | cologate | shamefully, I don't |
| 02:19.26 | x86iac | pheeps you banned from alphabet? |
| 02:19.47 | cologate | I haven't installed debian in a while, I just change the repositories on my server and update, sorry |
| 02:19.58 | pheeps | x86iac: whut? whut you talkin about? |
| 02:20.06 | x86iac | google it |
| 02:20.18 | pheeps | i'm busy |
| 02:20.21 | x86iac | alphabet=new google |
| 02:20.30 | pheeps | oh, i know that |
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| 02:22.07 | pheeps | oh . . . xrandr |
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| 02:32.51 | FemAnon | anyone know how to install yumi bootloader on a drive from debian? |
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| 02:33.00 | FemAnon | i accidentally overwrote my yumi bootloader on a usb drive |
| 02:33.21 | FemAnon | config files still in place |
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| 02:34.56 | incal | cologate: that (595x842) indeed changed the size, but not to anything that fits an A4 - actually it turned the jpeg even smaller |
| 02:36.20 | incal | I'll try 1654x2339 now... |
| 02:36.45 | cologate | I'd say it'd just need to be the same aspect ratio, but I don't know much about this, sorry |
| 02:38.14 | incal | still, what you said (595x842) is the pixels for an A4 with 72 PPI - http://www.a4papersize.org |
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| 02:39.37 | udp-packet | What about converting to postscript |
| 02:40.20 | incal | sure if the file doesn't get too big |
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| 02:50.36 | Andre483 | has anyone found a solution to disable windows client from caching login credentials of networkdrives? im using samba as the server in debian |
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| 02:57.36 | maik | Andre483: are they stored in cmdkey ? |
| 02:57.43 | maik | and/or can that help? |
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| 02:58.09 | maik | oh wait, you can pass /persistent:no i think to net use |
| 02:58.27 | Andre483 | but will that setting be saved? |
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| 02:58.48 | maik | well no, you use it at mount time so next time you boot it doesn't save it |
| 02:58.54 | maik | boot/login |
| 02:58.59 | maik | maybe not what you want |
| 02:59.08 | Andre483 | unfortunately thats not it |
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| 03:22.51 | phunyguy | Hi, what would be the best way to get the Stretch kernel (4.1 series) into Jessie? I don't want to fully enable the testing repos, but 3.16 is too old for my laptop docking station. |
| 03:23.05 | dvs | !bpo |
| 03:23.05 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <jessie backports>) and oldstable (<wheezy backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
| 03:23.10 | phunyguy | but I also don't want to lose security updates |
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| 03:23.18 | phunyguy | dvs: from what I can see it is not in backports |
| 03:23.34 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 03:23.35 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3); experimental: 4.1.0-trunk-686-pae (4.1.2-1~exp1) |
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| 03:24.14 | dvs | phunyguy: You can compile it from source using the kernel-package |
| 03:24.26 | phunyguy | ugh... yeah I didn't want to go that route. |
| 03:24.43 | phunyguy | would rather just move 100% to testing over that. |
| 03:25.15 | centrx | testing works well if you're familiar with Linux/Debian |
| 03:25.36 | phunyguy | right, but I read a blurb on debian.org to not use testing if you prefer security.... and patches hit testing the slowest. |
| 03:25.49 | phunyguy | (different process to get packages into it) |
| 03:26.17 | phunyguy | with stable and sid being the quickest, but sid is bad in other areas. |
| 03:26.50 | centrx | phunyguy, right |
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| 03:27.25 | centrx | phunyguy, There might be a rolling distro for you, but in general not many distros will have kernel 4.1 in their main security supported release as it was released recently |
| 03:27.37 | phunyguy | centrx: I would be happy with 3.19 |
| 03:27.37 | centrx | phunyguy, So you could do the compilation and just keep an eye on security updates |
| 03:28.00 | phunyguy | that's where the support was added. And I suppose I could. |
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| 03:28.49 | phunyguy | grumbles. |
| 03:28.52 | phunyguy | choices. |
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| 03:33.50 | phunyguy | so basically I would lose security updates in that window of time before packages from sid make it to testing? Is that what I am getting out of that? That just sounds like a major pitfall to me. THen you have unstable.... does that break often? |
| 03:34.40 | dvs | phunyguy: KDE just broke recently |
| 03:34.45 | phunyguy | blargh. |
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| 03:35.05 | phunyguy | I guess the kernel compile is my only option.... or I can possibly install from experimental? |
| 03:37.00 | phunyguy | the other pitfall is in the past with things like this, I lost dkms modules, as they stopped compilng properly. |
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| 04:10.30 | maol4 | jelly |
| 04:10.47 | maol4 | I NEED space in debian, how to? |
| 04:11.23 | maol4 | i have 'baobab' which tells you what folders and files use much space |
| 04:11.59 | maol4 | . /var/lib/apt/lists/partial = 2.0GB. i need to destroy that |
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| 04:16.47 | phunyguy | so if I mix stable and testing branches with say one package, and apt-get install -t testing $packagename, will that package start following the testing branch permanently, or will I have to pin it permanently in the preferences file? |
| 04:17.10 | themill | maol4: "apt-get update" should clear away any cruft left in that directory |
| 04:17.29 | themill | phunyguy: if you don't have any pinning, you will just end up upgrading everything to testing |
| 04:17.41 | phunyguy | well I have /some/ pinning |
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| 04:18.05 | phunyguy | I have the testing repo enabled, and * on stable and testing pinned with different priorities. |
| 04:18.07 | maol4 | themill /usr/vib/uwt: line 204: echo: write error: No space left on device |
| 04:18.14 | phunyguy | so stable will always win. |
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| 04:18.43 | phunyguy | but if I add -t to the apt-get command to force a package to go to testing, will it just install it once, or follow testing from then on for that package? |
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| 04:19.08 | themill | phunyguy: well that depends on what "some" pinning actually means |
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| 04:19.54 | phunyguy | I just explained it. I have testing repo enabled, and all packages pinned as priority 750, and for stable, all packages pinned as priority 995 |
| 04:20.07 | phunyguy | and security with all packages pinned as priority 1000 |
| 04:20.09 | themill | no, you didn't just explain it because you didn't list the numbers |
| 04:20.47 | phunyguy | no but I did say with "different priorities" :) |
| 04:20.54 | themill | that doesn't help |
| 04:21.05 | phunyguy | ok, sorry. |
| 04:21.10 | themill | You should be using values between 100 and 500 for that |
| 04:21.21 | phunyguy | yeah I can tidy that up. |
| 04:21.34 | phunyguy | but my question was more about theory and not technicalities |
| 04:21.48 | themill | well the answer depends on what values for the pinning you have used |
| 04:21.53 | themill | hence wanting to know them |
| 04:22.10 | phunyguy | okay... |
| 04:22.46 | themill | Have a look at the details around in apt_preferences(5) -- it's not just a rank order. The numbers themselves are meaningful |
| 04:23.00 | phunyguy | ahh, I wasn't aware of that. |
| 04:23.13 | phunyguy | I was loosely following this: http://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing |
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| 04:24.17 | themill | yeah, that question makes me sad. The best answer is "don't do that" and "use backports instead" which is somewhere further down the list. |
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| 04:24.45 | phunyguy | right but the package I need is not in backports. |
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| 04:24.48 | phunyguy | (kernel) |
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| 04:25.39 | themill | I'd be tempted to just do that with dpkg -i, personally. A kernel is likely to hit backports reasonably soon in any case |
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| 04:25.56 | maol4 | themill /usr/vib/uwt: line 204: echo: write error: No space left on device |
| 04:26.47 | themill | maol4: I have no idea what /usr/vib is or what you are doing to make that error. |
| 04:26.51 | phunyguy | themill: I may still tinker with this in a VM. It looks fun. |
| 04:27.26 | maol4 | themill sorry i meant /usr/bin/uwt |
| 04:27.28 | themill | phunyguy: (I only say that I'd just directly install the kernel package because I know in this case its dependencies are satisfied in stable) |
| 04:27.40 | maol4 | themill this is error when i used apt-get update |
| 04:28.02 | themill | what sort of debian is that? I know of no /usr/bin/uwt anywhere in debian |
| 04:28.04 | Chocolate_Chip | Hay. Anyone here to help me? I think I have a minor dependecy hell |
| 04:28.21 | maol4 | themill im not sure |
| 04:31.04 | Chocolate_Chip | http://pastebin.com/4FZ9qugL |
| 04:31.08 | Chocolate_Chip | What you suggest I do? |
| 04:31.27 | phunyguy | alright themill, thanks for the pep talk. Going to bed. |
| 04:32.22 | themill | phunyguy: sleep well! |
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| 04:32.39 | maol4 | HELP!! |
| 04:33.02 | Chocolate_Chip | themill, are you able to help me resolve this dependency hell? |
| 04:33.18 | Chocolate_Chip | I'm not even sure what these libs do |
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| 04:34.19 | themill | Chocolate_Chip: you seem to have a libgnutls-deb0-28 from a newer release. |
| 04:34.22 | themill | dpkg: tell Chocolate_Chip about bat |
| 04:34.36 | themill | the policy output for *all* the listed packages would be good to see |
| 04:34.43 | Chocolate_Chip | K |
| 04:34.57 | Chocolate_Chip | I'm running Jessie 8.1 though |
| 04:35.37 | themill | your libgnutls-openssl27 is not from jessie |
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| 04:36.16 | Chocolate_Chip | http://pastebin.com/dQ30pQsK |
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| 04:39.51 | maol4 | HELP!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:40.00 | maol4 | themill the error is because i dont have SPACE |
| 04:40.23 | Chocolate_Chip | Memory space? |
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| 04:42.40 | Chocolate_Chip | themill, have I configured my sources.list incorrectly? |
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| 04:43.13 | themill | Chocolate_Chip: can you show me the output of "apt-cache policy packagename" for all of the packages listed in the last apt output? |
| 04:43.21 | Chocolate_Chip | Ok |
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| 04:45.01 | Chocolate_Chip | http://pastebin.com/XSrLNDqS |
| 04:45.29 | Equa | Guest21283: you shouldn't use root account to go on irc |
| 04:45.54 | Chocolate_Chip | also the SSL certificate for security.debian.org is broken |
| 04:46.03 | Chocolate_Chip | I have tto use standard http for it |
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| 04:49.12 | themill | Chocolate_Chip: libgnutls-deb0-28 exists in that tox repo for some reason and that's the problem. It'd be nice if the tox people were clueful enough to not break people's systems by including incompatible packages in there... You'll have to pin that repo (say to 200) and then it should work fine. |
| 04:49.43 | Chocolate_Chip | Their repo is broken atm as it only has 64 bit packages |
| 04:49.58 | Chocolate_Chip | How do I pin a repo |
| 04:50.03 | themill | !pinning |
| 04:50.03 | dpkg | Pinning is a method to choose which version of a package to install when multiple versions are available from <sources.list>. Bugs are explained at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/debian.html#errata . If you use stable, pinning won't help you from messing up the system, ask me about <backports> instead. http://wiki.debian.org/AptPreferences |
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| 04:51.26 | Chocolate_Chip | /etc/apt/preferences does not exist. is it safe to create it? |
| 04:51.42 | themill | sure |
| 04:53.03 | Chocolate_Chip | And 200 is enough to make the sources.list packages the top priority? |
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| 04:54.07 | themill | Chocolate_Chip: if you look at that policy output, you'll see that unpinned repos are 500 |
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| 04:59.03 | Chocolate_Chip | This looks correct? http://pastebin.com/GiLDp7zz |
| 04:59.06 | Chocolate_Chip | Oh |
| 04:59.08 | Chocolate_Chip | Refresh the page, what about those values |
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| 05:01.31 | Chocolate_Chip | themill |
| 05:01.38 | themill | I'd have just pinned the tox repo down, pinning on «origin pkg.tox.chat» |
| 05:01.45 | Chocolate_Chip | K |
| 05:03.09 | Chocolate_Chip | That would be |
| 05:03.10 | Chocolate_Chip | Package: * |
| 05:03.10 | Chocolate_Chip | Pin: origin=pkg.tox.chat |
| 05:03.10 | Chocolate_Chip | Pin-Priority: 100 |
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| 05:03.30 | Chocolate_Chip | It was only 3 lines |
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| 05:04.30 | themill | that should be fine, but you can check by looking at the output of the policy commands again. (and it was 4 lines by the time you said "That would be" first) |
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| 05:05.00 | themill | err... no = in the Pin line |
| 05:05.06 | Chocolate_Chip | oh |
| 05:05.12 | Chocolate_Chip | What do I replace it to |
| 05:05.28 | themill | just a space should be enough |
| 05:06.15 | Chocolate_Chip | Good. The packages are upgrading |
| 05:06.16 | themill | You're matching exactly what you see in the output of "apt-cache policy". So it's "release a=nightly" or "origin pkg.tox.chat" etc. |
| 05:06.54 | Chocolate_Chip | I honeslty don't even know what these libs are, but I'm scaed I'll enter a dependency hell if I don't upgrade them |
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| 05:37.28 | Dirkson | Hey all! Can someone help me play "Spot the shared dependency"? When I try to play an html5 video on dwb, midori, or uzbl, they immediately segfault. When I try to play one in google chrome, or chromium, it works. Theoretically these are all webkit-based renderers, but a few of them must be trying to embed the same thing to play html5 videos, and failing. Maybe gstreamer? But there's like 500 gstreamer |
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| 05:37.30 | Dirkson | packages... |
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| 05:53.36 | mirazi_heket | hello, got message while trying to use apt-cache search (debian 7.8) E: value stable is not correct for APT::Default-Release because such version is not avaiable in sources (text translated) |
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| 05:56.09 | themill | mirazi_heket: 7.8 is not debian stable (it's oldstable). You shouldn't really need default-release if you're using a stable release in any case |
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| 05:57.44 | mirazi_heket | changed that into wheezy and its working |
| 05:57.56 | mirazi_heket | APT::Default-Release "wheezy"; |
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| 06:02.47 | in1t3r | o/ |
| 06:07.09 | Sorch | o/ |
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| 06:18.27 | jelly | maol4: pastebin the whole output that happens when you run "apt-get update", including the command |
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| 06:23.54 | maol4 | jelly OK |
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| 06:24.01 | maol4 | jelly i will paste that other command too |
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| 06:26.14 | maol4 | jelly i cant paste images into pastebin |
| 06:26.19 | maol4 | any other website to paste images |
| 06:27.22 | maol4 | help |
| 06:29.16 | jelly | maol4: why an image? the output is all text |
| 06:29.34 | maol4 | jelly yes but i cant copy it because its inside virtual machine |
| 06:29.47 | jelly | maol4: you can't ssh into your virtual machine? |
| 06:30.11 | maol4 | cant i dont even know what you said |
| 06:30.15 | jelly | sigh |
| 06:30.16 | maol4 | i made screenshot |
| 06:30.35 | Patero | maol4: I don't know ssh either |
| 06:30.40 | jelly | maol4: use imgur.com or any other image upload site |
| 06:30.51 | maol4 | imgur requires javascript |
| 06:31.00 | jelly | so enable javascript |
| 06:31.11 | Patero | photobucket too |
| 06:32.22 | maol4 | jelly http://s2.postimg.org/ji6f053mf/aptget_update.png |
| 06:32.28 | maol4 | jelly http://s2.postimg.org/qwr5es047/image.png |
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| 06:33.28 | jelly | maol4: "apt-get update" has to be run as root |
| 06:33.52 | maol4 | jelly when i use root the error that disk is full still shows |
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| 06:34.33 | jelly | maol4: I still need to see it. |
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| 06:40.59 | maol4 | jelly this time it 'worked' it showed thousand of lines etc |
| 06:41.13 | maol4 | jelly but the file still is 2GB now 2.1GB and i have 0 bytes left on HDD |
| 06:41.37 | maol4 | why debian store this crap on my hdd? on windows i dont have such files |
| 06:41.44 | themill | maol4: pastebin or it didn't happen. You're not telling us anything useful so you won't get any help |
| 06:41.56 | maol4 | on windows i dont need package lists i get software from WWW |
| 06:42.05 | themill | that's ncie |
| 06:42.10 | maol4 | themill how im going to pastebin it? its thousand of lines |
| 06:42.31 | themill | If it is literally that long then you've got more problems |
| 06:42.41 | maol4 | oh no wait |
| 06:42.52 | maol4 | when it was working it showed many lines but now its less |
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| 06:43.14 | maol4 | i only got some "failed to fetch" messages |
| 06:43.18 | themill | ... |
| 06:43.18 | maol4 | and nothing other interesting |
| 06:43.32 | maol4 | i need to destroy the file, help |
| 06:43.33 | themill | I'm not sure you're in a good position to make that judgement. |
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| 06:44.09 | maol4 | W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 06:44.20 | maol4 | i dont want more files! i want destroy existing so i have space |
| 06:44.49 | maol4 | on windows i just destroy TEMP folder and i have space |
| 06:45.18 | themill | You can keep ranting or you can provide the data that you have been asked for several times over the past two days. |
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| 06:45.29 | maol4 | i provided everything |
| 06:45.35 | maol4 | themill i send images |
| 06:45.48 | maol4 | themill [08:32:18] <maol4> jelly http://s2.postimg.org/ji6f053mf/aptget_update.png |
| 06:45.48 | maol4 | [08:32:24] <maol4> jelly http://s2.postimg.org/qwr5es047/image.png |
| 06:46.17 | maol4 | i have BAOBAB which shows me what uses most space |
| 06:46.19 | themill | no, you refused to provide the output of the last two commands. You just say that there are some uninteresting errors |
| 06:46.49 | maol4 | the output of last command is irrelevant |
| 06:46.54 | maol4 | its just few FAILED to fetch |
| 06:47.18 | themill | Well perhaps you could provide some output from something that you do think is relevant... |
| 06:47.22 | maol4 | "Hash sum mismatch" |
| 06:47.48 | themill | At the moment you have provided nothing useful. Lots of complaints and zero useful details. |
| 06:47.52 | maol4 | i just want to destroy the file |
| 06:47.59 | themill | "the file" |
| 06:48.12 | maol4 | its 2.1GB of size |
| 06:48.15 | maol4 | i dont need it |
| 06:48.24 | themill | Do try to be more vague if possible. |
| 06:48.57 | maol4 | themill /var/lib/apt/lists/partial = 2.1GB |
| 06:49.01 | maol4 | i want to destroy it |
| 06:49.09 | themill | that is not a file |
| 06:49.31 | maol4 | svetlana |
| 06:49.38 | themill | what's in there? the output of ls -l might help |
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| 06:50.31 | svetlana | maol4: I'm now watching the conversation in here. themill's questions look relevant, kindly please follow. |
| 06:50.57 | maol4 | svetlana debian is broken it used 100% of my space and now cant delete files |
| 06:51.14 | svetlana | Again see what themill said: "the output of ls -l might help". |
| 06:52.14 | themill | maol4: you keep saying that but won't give us any information that might help us help you. |
| 06:53.09 | Patero | can you help me? Do you know why my usb stick with debian installed from the live cd only boots from my desktop not my laptop? |
| 06:53.16 | maol4 | themill svetlana http://s30.postimg.org/stwrp8t0f/ls_l.png |
| 06:53.49 | maol4 | i want my space back |
| 06:54.19 | svetlana | How exactly are you installing the tor browser? |
| 06:54.36 | svetlana | Why did you mungle some of the output? Be more clear. |
| 06:54.36 | maol4 | svetlana i downloaded .tar and unpacked |
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| 06:54.48 | maol4 | svetlana i mungled version of torbrowser |
| 06:54.50 | svetlana | Don't do that on debian. Install it from the repositories instead. |
| 06:54.59 | maol4 | no |
| 06:55.07 | themill | the file listing for the directory we're actually talking about would have been sensible... |
| 06:55.11 | maol4 | if i installed id had no way to copy/clone it etc |
| 06:55.24 | maol4 | themill what? |
| 06:55.36 | maol4 | you told me to "ls -l" |
| 06:55.46 | svetlana | Um, yes, do `ls -l /var/lib/apt/lists/partial `. |
| 06:57.35 | maol4 | i dont know if i can post it, it contains some private stuff |
| 06:57.44 | maol4 | cant i just destroy everything inside? |
| 06:58.35 | themill | if that contains private stuff then you're doing it all wrong |
| 06:58.57 | maol4 | themill sorry i meant it contains DATE and TIME in filenames, can be used to identify my VM |
| 06:59.11 | themill | good luck with your endeavours |
| 06:59.43 | maol4 | what is point of /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ? can i just destroy it? |
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| 07:01.41 | maol4 | help |
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| 07:01.42 | DarsVaeda | hi, I need to run "xrandr --setprovideroutputsource 1 0" after every start, I tried to automate it and put it in init.d and also tried to put it in ~/xinitrc |
| 07:01.48 | DarsVaeda | but neither is working :( |
| 07:02.17 | DarsVaeda | where can I put it? |
| 07:03.31 | maol4 | i need help! i need space |
| 07:03.48 | DarsVaeda | maybe you should just ask your question? |
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| 07:04.46 | maol4 | i did |
| 07:05.02 | maol4 | my question is how to get space and, can i destroy /var/lib/apt/lists/partial ? |
| 07:05.30 | DarsVaeda | I'm not an expert but you can run apt-get clean |
| 07:05.35 | themill | maol4: Please either cooperate with people trying to help or stop asking. |
| 07:06.06 | garyDavid | Hi! |
| 07:06.40 | garyDavid | How do I download every file in every sub-directory in a website? |
| 07:06.43 | garyDavid | https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2023/DEF%20CON%2023%20presentations/Speaker%20&%20Workshop%20Materials/ |
| 07:06.57 | maol4 | DarsVaeda just tested. no error. but it didnt cleaned anything i still have 0 bytes |
| 07:07.07 | garyDavid | How do I download the files in those sub-dir, except of course the 'parent dir'. |
| 07:07.11 | maol4 | themill i am, you not. you not answer my questions |
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| 07:07.33 | themill | maol4: let me know when you're prepared to actually engage in this process |
| 07:07.39 | DarsVaeda | maol4, this is for free isn't it? so you can't expect help ;) |
| 07:07.51 | themill | maol4: you've wasted enough time of enough people now. |
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| 07:08.01 | themill | garyDavid: wget can recurse |
| 07:08.06 | garyDavid | wget -r? |
| 07:08.26 | themill | garyDavid: you probably want --no-parent too |
| 07:08.32 | garyDavid | Also I'd like the files to be downloaded in their respective folders, just as how they are fixed in that link. |
| 07:08.40 | garyDavid | ah |
| 07:08.48 | garyDavid | So wget -r --no-parent? |
| 07:08.56 | themill | you can get wget to make directory structures too |
| 07:09.20 | garyDavid | Would I end up with the same dir structure as with the link? |
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| 07:09.32 | garyDavid | Would suck if I have to actually do them myself -_- |
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| 07:09.58 | garyDavid | Anyone got idea when the torrents are coming for DEFCON 23 presentations at least? |
| 07:10.04 | garyDavid | https://media.defcon.org/DEF%20CON%2023/DEF%20CON%2023%20presentations/Speaker%20&%20Workshop%20Materials/ |
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| 07:10.12 | garyDavid | The torrents for that link. |
| 07:10.41 | inerkick | Quick question. Which one to download http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/i386/iso-dvd/ "Debian update or Debian 8.1.0. what's the difference |
| 07:11.07 | garyDavid | inerkick: On the Debian home page, there's this mini icon where you can download Debian |
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| 07:11.21 | garyDavid | I say you just go get Debian through that mini-button. |
| 07:11.45 | garyDavid | It should be the latest stable and the most recommended especially for new comers. |
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| 07:12.50 | themill | inerkick: the update image is only for updating |
| 07:13.08 | garyDavid | themill: I get a 404 error -_- |
| 07:13.29 | garyDavid | Been getting this since I started trying to download dem presentations -_- |
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| 07:14.13 | TheUnixNinja | strange, the link works for me on the Debian homepage |
| 07:14.17 | TheUnixNinja | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-8.1.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 07:17.05 | vecciora | Anybody have tried many plymouth themes? |
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| 07:17.33 | vecciora | I've tried many, but most of them only showing three dots. |
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| 07:18.32 | vecciora | I've posted this on the forum, but there is no reply. |
| 07:18.34 | vecciora | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=123955 |
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| 07:30.28 | Chocolate_Chip | Icedove has no instaltion canadite in apt-get |
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| 07:31.09 | Chocolate_Chip | What do I type instead |
| 07:31.18 | Chocolate_Chip | I see nothing in the Wiki |
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| 07:32.29 | rozie_ | Chocolate_Chip: wajig policy icedove |
| 07:32.47 | Chocolate_Chip | wajig> |
| 07:32.49 | Chocolate_Chip | What is wajig |
| 07:33.26 | inerkick | themill, so i don't get complete download of debian with that link? or as mentioned have to download the icon on the webpage? |
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| 07:33.46 | Stummi | Chocolate_Chip, its another package manager. Type apt-cache policy icedove to use your existing one |
| 07:33.47 | inerkick | what is the DVD than |
| 07:33.55 | Chocolate_Chip | K |
| 07:34.16 | Chocolate_Chip | Oh wait. I forgot to run apt-get update >.< |
| 07:34.20 | Chocolate_Chip | Neverminf |
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| 07:34.39 | Chocolate_Chip | I feel stupid |
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| 07:37.39 | Patero | guys I have a problem booting from my laptop with my usb stick but I can boot from my desktop is explained more in detail here : http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=124117 |
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| 07:49.12 | Chocolate_Chip | Os there a debian repo that's over sftp |
| 07:49.29 | Chocolate_Chip | or sftps |
| 07:49.45 | Chocolate_Chip | er... ftps |
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| 07:50.58 | themill | Perhaps. There's no collation of anything other than http, ftp and rsync mirrors though. |
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| 07:51.15 | Chocolate_Chip | No https? |
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| 07:51.29 | Chocolate_Chip | I know that the securioty cert for security.debian.org is broke |
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| 07:52.16 | themill | https doesn't make your packages more secure |
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| 07:53.22 | themill | (if security.debian.org is offering https for you then it's by accident because something else hosted on the same machine is offering https) |
| 07:53.48 | Chocolate_Chip | k |
| 07:57.51 | babilen | dpkg: tell Chocolate_Chip -about secure apt |
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| 07:59.03 | Chocolate_Chip | Uh.. I jkust installed icedove, and it completly changed iceweasle |
| 07:59.06 | Chocolate_Chip | Is that normal? |
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| 07:59.39 | babilen | Chocolate_Chip: It is not |
| 07:59.53 | Chocolate_Chip | It installed stylish, adblock +, a bunch of themes |
| 08:00.05 | Chocolate_Chip | Https everywhere |
| 08:00.21 | Chocolate_Chip | Foxyproxy |
| 08:00.24 | Chocolate_Chip | What the hell just happened |
| 08:01.23 | Chocolate_Chip | And it doesn't give me the ablity to remove any of them |
| 08:01.32 | Chocolate_Chip | I got the package from apt |
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| 08:06.36 | Chocolate_Chip | aparently I put a . after icedove. What does sudo apt-get install icedove. do? |
| 08:06.36 | Chocolate_Chip | Did that fuck it up? |
| 08:06.39 | Chocolate_Chip | removing icedove(with period) did not revert it |
| 08:06.40 | Chocolate_Chip | babilen, themill |
| 08:06.45 | Chocolate_Chip | Anyone? |
| 08:07.20 | Chocolate_Chip | babilen, themill |
| 08:07.23 | themill | check the output |
| 08:07.40 | themill | «Note, selecting 'icedove-timeline' for regex 'icedove.'» etc |
| 08:07.56 | Chocolate_Chip | The output is so long, it gets cut off |
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| 08:08.04 | themill | so scroll back |
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| 08:08.39 | Chocolate_Chip | Note, selecting 'icedove-adblock-plus-element-hiding-helper' for regex 'icedove. |
| 08:08.41 | Chocolate_Chip | hmm |
| 08:08.49 | Chocolate_Chip | I mean that the scrollback gets cut off |
| 08:09.05 | themill | that's enough detail though |
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| 08:09.33 | Chocolate_Chip | if I do sudo apt-get remove iceweasel && sudo apt-get install iceweasel will that revert it back to it's default state? |
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| 08:10.40 | themill | you probably want to remove all the packages you didn't want. apt's logs might help you identify them. Or just remove everything with icedove in the name |
| 08:10.47 | ChrisH | Chocolate_Chip: you might want to use --purge with remove to get rid of config files |
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| 08:10.56 | Chocolate_Chip | K |
| 08:10.57 | Chocolate_Chip | Ugh |
| 08:11.38 | themill | «aptitude remove ~nicedove~i» might be a good start for you |
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| 08:11.45 | Chocolate_Chip | Ok. Now apt says that once I remove iceweasel, icedove will gbe installed |
| 08:12.28 | mindless_q | just add both iceweasel and icedove to the remove list |
| 08:12.28 | themill | also removing ~nxul-ext~i might be desirable |
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| 08:12.37 | Chocolate_Chip | http://paste.debian.net/291852/ |
| 08:13.26 | mindless_q | >> sudo apt-get --purge remove iceweasel icedove |
| 08:13.37 | Chocolate_Chip | http://paste.debian.net/291853/ |
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| 08:13.47 | Chocolate_Chip | What did I do wrong where all these things were installed |
| 08:13.54 | Chocolate_Chip | All I wanted was an email client >.< |
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| 08:14.13 | Patero | !chroot |
| 08:14.14 | dpkg | To chroot into your Debian system boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2). Mount your root filesystem with "mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target" and make /dev, /proc and /sys usable with "mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys". You can then chroot into the system with "chroot /target". |
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| 08:14.32 | themill | Chocolate_Chip: apt asked for confirmation before installing all that stuff btw. |
| 08:15.00 | Chocolate_Chip | It gave me a giant list. I assumed it was all nesasarry, like when you install a DE |
| 08:15.11 | Chocolate_Chip | it gives you about 45 lines of packages |
| 08:15.20 | Chocolate_Chip | Why does it include this bloatware |
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| 08:16.28 | Chocolate_Chip | Reinstalled Iceweasel, the bloatware is still there |
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| 08:18.18 | themill | It's not bloat when you asked for it and then accepted it. It's clearly still installed because the list of packages that you were going to remove is much shorter than the list you installed. So you could do what I suggest or keep ignoring me... it doesn't actually worry me. |
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| 08:23.37 | Chocolate_Chip | Ok. I succesfully removed everythign icedove added. Why did it do that though |
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| 08:49.39 | shingouz | Chocolate_Chip: maybe you have your system set up so that it pulls in the recommends while it is at it |
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| 08:50.27 | babilen | Chocolate_Chip: Because you used a query that was interpreted as a regular expression and that then got expanded |
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| 08:57.19 | gox39 | hi poeple,I was able to pair and trust a bluetooth based gamepad as keyboard+mouse device with the bluez-* commands. My question is: Is there a way to autoconnect to that gamepad when I turn it on? Rather than opening a terminal and entering " sudo bluez-test-input connect ******" every time? |
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| 09:01.14 | Ticho | gox39: maybe make an udev rule to do that? |
| 09:01.43 | gox39 | Ticho: apparently not, How do I check that? |
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| 09:21.27 | yossarianuk | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:23.23 | petn-randall | yossarianuk: Both have their merits and downsides, you have to pick on what you can live with. |
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| 09:23.49 | yossarianuk | cheers petn-randall: |
| 09:23.56 | yossarianuk | I'll stick with fstrim... |
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| 09:25.38 | petn-randall | yossarianuk: the discard mount option can cause some I/O delays when deleting files. fstrim might cause even longer delays, but at least you can pick the time when it happens. |
| 09:26.06 | petn-randall | yossarianuk: If your SSD doesn't stall when deleting large chunks of data, I'd go with the discard mount option (my personal opinion). |
| 09:26.42 | yossarianuk | petn-randall: actually it is a laptop so a weekly cron may not be a great idea (as it may not be on..) |
| 09:27.01 | jelly | yossarianuk: anacron handles that |
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| 09:27.53 | yossarianuk | jelly: i.e it notices the job hasn't ran yet and runs when next available ? |
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| 09:28.38 | jelly | yossarianuk: runs after the machine is woken up, if it needs to |
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| 09:32.18 | yossarianuk | cheers for the info - idid not know that .. |
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| 09:46.03 | mirazi_heket | hello, got some strange warning - dpkg: warning "ldconfig" not found in PATH or its not executable - and same with "start-stop-daemon" message |
| 09:47.11 | mirazi_heket | i got this when installing packages (iotop for example) |
| 09:48.42 | petn-randall | mirazi_heket: Can you show us the full output, and can you check the output of 'ls -l /sbin/ldconfig'? → http://paste.debian.net |
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| 09:50.18 | mirazi_heket | http://paste.debian.net/291874/ |
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| 09:54.14 | katyucha | mirazi_heket: jessie, testing or sid ? |
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| 09:54.46 | mirazi_heket | 7.8 |
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| 09:55.30 | mirazi_heket | wheezy |
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| 09:59.07 | z3r0 | hi all |
| 09:59.16 | z3r0 | what is the name of the testing now ? |
| 09:59.56 | katyucha | z3r0: Stretch i think |
| 10:00.31 | vincent_xcg | Hi I’m using debian stable. My dead keys were working fine yesterday, but do not work anymore. Any idea how to fix that? |
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| 10:01.11 | katyucha | mirazi_heket: https://wiki.debian.org/sudo <- Your problem ? |
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| 10:04.18 | Dan34 | I want to install some good updater that will check and install all new packages by itself, what do you advise me? thanks |
| 10:04.50 | deus_x | Does aptitude full-upgrade entail both upgrade and dist-upgrade? |
| 10:05.15 | mirazi_heket | seems installing as root does not produce this warning... |
| 10:05.35 | vincent_xcg | full-upgrade is dist-upgrade, it was renamed I believe. |
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| 10:07.57 | Dan34 | on ubuntu and opensuse it does all alone and check everytime I open the computer, Debian not, why? |
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| 10:08.12 | Dan34 | there's some package to install for sure |
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| 10:12.26 | deus_x | well I tried upgrade first after updating the repository list(wheezy->Jessie) and it came back as unresolvable....somewhere said that does full-upgrade after updating the repos was enough. |
| 10:13.09 | deus_x | But I feel i might have screwed myself here now. |
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| 10:27.50 | bibear | hi, is there any way to disable notification for a single programm in gnome ? |
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| 11:11.51 | deus_x | Any recommended procedures to verify a dist-upgrade |
| 11:11.56 | ZeMaster | Seeing as I didn't know where to go exactly and I'm running a debian, I would like to ask my question here; How do I restore my shell back to default with proper output? As it is right now, I am getting absolutely no output for things like service stop/restart and the like. |
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| 11:18.29 | SPF | ZeMaster: you can try the command reset |
| 11:18.35 | Epakai | ZeMaster: i don't get any output for the service command, isn't this normal? |
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| 11:19.03 | ZeMaster | Usually it'd be something like [ ok ] service restarted |
| 11:19.07 | ZeMaster | And reset doesn't do jack :/ |
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| 11:21.53 | ZeMaster | The other issue is that it prevents me from installing mysql-server |
| 11:21.57 | SaveTheRobots | deus_x: check that your services are running, does everything work? check logs and journalctl for error? |
| 11:22.04 | SaveTheRobots | errors* |
| 11:22.10 | ZeMaster | I don't get the GUI for setting the password |
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| 11:23.35 | SaveTheRobots | ZeMaster: you mean the initial setup wizard that asks for a root pass? try dpkg-reconfigure -plow mysql-server ? |
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| 11:24.41 | ZeMaster | Yeah |
| 11:25.02 | ZeMaster | Sorry for making little sense, frustrated. |
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| 11:25.23 | ZeMaster | Ah, that fixed it, thank you. |
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| 11:25.56 | SaveTheRobots | np ;) |
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| 11:28.08 | ZeMaster | I still wonder what happened to that output though |
| 11:28.12 | ZeMaster | The one from service |
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| 11:30.03 | SaveTheRobots | try calling the init script directly instead |
| 11:30.11 | SaveTheRobots | e.g. /etc/init.d/<service> restart |
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| 11:31.34 | OneSploit | Hi |
| 11:31.53 | OneSploit | I am having problem with starting debian installer on qemu for armhf |
| 11:31.55 | OneSploit | any tips? |
| 11:32.14 | OneSploit | I am getting black window instead of anything |
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| 11:43.28 | muindor | hey i got a small "problem". i've just installed debian jessie minimal image, and im kinda missing some console output when restarting services for example. usually when i restart apache with 'service apache2 restart' i get some output like '[ ok ] Restarting web server: apache2 ... waiting .' . but now i dont get any output. any idea how i can solve this? |
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| 11:44.26 | rgr | has it restarted? |
| 11:44.50 | ChrisH | muindor: with jessie you should run systemctl restart and yes, I do not get any output either. |
| 11:45.40 | muindor | rgr: yes restarting works according to the logfiles |
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| 11:46.30 | r00twayne | systemctl status apache2 / systemctl restart apache2 |
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| 11:47.50 | muindor | got not output with systemctl either |
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| 11:49.47 | rgr | why do you want output? |
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| 11:51.46 | muindor | rgr: i think its nice to have some immediate feedback |
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| 12:06.38 | ChrisH | muindor: you will get it upon failure |
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| 12:31.22 | deus_x | When adding component to sourcelist say contrib |
| 12:31.38 | deus_x | should I to it to all listed entries or just the main |
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| 12:32.07 | deus_x | that is : just deb http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/ jessie main |
| 12:32.26 | Brigo | deus_x, and security at least. |
| 12:32.55 | Brigo | if you have backports and want to use it, then i would add to ti too. |
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| 12:33.42 | deus_x | Source entries to? and Jessie-update? |
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| 12:38.19 | Tux_Nix | hi all |
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| 12:39.30 | Tux_Nix | im running gnome 3.14 on debian, im looking for the dconf file that sets the desktop wallpaper, can anyone help? |
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| 12:40.41 | Brigo | Tux_Nix, i think you have to install gnome-tweak-tool (not sure) |
| 12:41.26 | Tux_Nix | Brigo, we are running the post install through puppet so it would be nice to just modify a dconf |
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| 12:44.19 | Tux_Nix | we would also like to modify the login screen and lock screen image |
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| 13:01.50 | ris | ok, i give up - how do i get udisks to mount usb drives with a sane umask value on jessie? |
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| 13:02.19 | ris | usb drives get mounted with umask 0022 |
| 13:02.25 | ris | and it's driving me mad |
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| 13:02.55 | ris | i can't figure out what combination of polkit/udisks or god knows what i have to configure |
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| 13:05.08 | darxmurf | folks tell me, I'm I dumb or Symfony PHP framework is really messy and a nightmare ??? |
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| 13:05.37 | Stummi | s/Symfony/;s/framework is/framworks are/ |
| 13:05.42 | Stummi | *// |
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| 13:06.43 | Mathisen | .... |
| 13:07.05 | SaveTheRobots | ris: afaik, udisks doesn't handle automounting, there will be a wrapper that does that |
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| 13:07.49 | Brigo | Tux_Nix, try dconf-editor, maybe it can help you finding the file. |
| 13:08.39 | darxmurf | I received a piece of crap to edit, it's a mix of CakePHP and symfony... I'll probably start something new from scratch with another language |
| 13:08.47 | Brigo | ris, sometimes usb sticks get mounted readonly because problems in the filesystem. |
| 13:09.18 | Tux_Nix | thankyou Brigo |
| 13:09.30 | themill | ris: what filesystem are you working with? |
| 13:09.44 | Brigo | Tux_Nix, yw :) |
| 13:10.33 | ris | themill: Brigo: fat32, freshly formatted |
| 13:10.43 | themill | there is no umask option for fat32 |
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| 13:11.31 | themill | there's dmask and fmask |
| 13:11.31 | ris | dmesg does say FAT-fs (sdb1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! |
| 13:11.48 | ris | gah |
| 13:12.00 | ris | thats why my googling is a fail |
| 13:12.03 | ris | conflated the two |
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| 13:13.27 | ris | muh hold on |
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| 13:14.41 | Chocolate_Chip | Does anyone know a good software program for rendering PostScript |
| 13:15.19 | ris | themill: according to man mount fat filesystems have umask fmask and dmask |
| 13:15.21 | themill | Chocolate_Chip: lots of things can render postscript, usually using ghostscript |
| 13:15.36 | Chocolate_Chip | I'll look that up |
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| 13:18.25 | SaveTheRobots | ris: umask = default for files+folders, fmask = files, dmask = directories |
| 13:18.42 | SaveTheRobots | what's your problem, that it's being automounted with the wrong umask? |
| 13:20.06 | themill | ris: yeah, ok. istr gets filtered out at the mount(8) call |
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| 13:21.53 | ris | SaveTheRobots: yup, exactly |
| 13:22.10 | ris | SaveTheRobots: 0022 |
| 13:22.27 | ris | and in modern linux i have _no_ idea what's in charge of that |
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| 13:23.38 | SaveTheRobots | any entries in fstab for it ? |
| 13:23.46 | ris | just removed them |
| 13:23.55 | SaveTheRobots | ah :p try asgain,then |
| 13:23.56 | ris | to prevent any ambiguity |
| 13:24.30 | SaveTheRobots | i think your best bet after that will be udev rules, but it depends on what you're using to automount, it used to be autofs, which can be configured separately |
| 13:24.33 | ris | well, no, i shouldn't need them - i don't want to put static entries in my fstab |
| 13:24.47 | SaveTheRobots | you shouldn't, no |
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| 13:25.20 | SaveTheRobots | you should configure whatever is handling automounts, i'm not 100% sure but it pretty much comes down to your udev rules |
| 13:25.21 | __john_doe__ | hey guys, what would be the recommended way of installing python3.3 or python3.4 on debian |
| 13:25.34 | ris | this is just insane - writing to a usb drive should *just work* - i thought this is what polkit/consolekit/udisks/systemd were supposed to fix |
| 13:25.47 | themill | ris: in what way does it not work? |
| 13:25.48 | ris | SaveTheRobots: default jessie installation |
| 13:26.06 | ris | themill: mounts everything with fmask=0022 dmask=0022 |
| 13:26.11 | themill | so? |
| 13:26.31 | themill | You've been asking how to change umask not how to write to a usb drive... |
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| 13:27.14 | themill | Perhaps it's time to step back and start afresh. What are you actually trying to achieve? What are you doing? What is not working? |
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| 13:29.49 | neoice | anyone have any ideas why /dev/snd is root:root 600 instead of root:audio 660? |
| 13:30.55 | themill | neoice: I'd have expected it to be root:root 0755 |
| 13:31.59 | neoice | themill: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/fcdfea2430cda01c117b |
| 13:32.15 | neoice | my user in the audio group cannot access any of the hardware devices inside /dev/snd |
| 13:32.26 | themill | So /dev/snd is root:root 0755... |
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| 13:33.38 | ris | damnit themill i mean fmask |
| 13:33.45 | ris | i just sometimes write umask |
| 13:33.53 | neoice | themill: open("/dev/snd/controlC0", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
| 13:33.55 | ris | lets get that straight |
| 13:34.03 | ris | it's fmask=0022 |
| 13:34.10 | themill | ris: why would you want that? |
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| 13:34.14 | ris | i dont |
| 13:34.17 | ris | thats the problem |
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| 13:34.31 | themill | ris: I think you're standing too close to the problem. |
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| 13:36.31 | themill | ris: please start at the beginning. It doesn't really sound like the problem is umask/fmask/dmask at all. |
| 13:36.34 | Brigo | question: i found a bug in jessie procps package, fixed in the strech version. There is no bug report, should i send a bug? install procps from strech? wait? |
| 13:36.45 | ris | themill: this problem http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=107470 |
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| 13:36.59 | ris | themill: it absolutely is |
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| 13:37.31 | jelly | Brigo: file a bug report, and build a local backport if you need the fix. |
| 13:37.43 | jelly | dpkg, tell Brigo about simple sid backport |
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| 13:38.38 | ris | oh fucking brilliant now systemd is getting involved |
| 13:38.43 | themill | ris: can you pastebin the output of "mount" |
| 13:38.48 | jelly | Brigo: unless something is seriously broken or has security implication, it's not likely to get fixed in jessie, but an existing bug report lets other people see it's not just them. |
| 13:38.57 | Brigo | jelly, it just happens reportbug asked me if i want to send the bug even if there is new package version (that i know has the bug solved)- |
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| 13:39.07 | ris | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.22 | Brigo | jelly, your are right. I will fill the bug, thanks you :) |
| 13:39.24 | themill | ris: some actual details would be helpful. It's not like you're the first person to do this and no-one else needs to configure fmask for it |
| 13:39.28 | ris | themill: dont worry i'll solve it myself |
| 13:39.48 | themill | *sigh* |
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| 13:39.56 | ris | im not going to spend hlf an hour describing the thousand things ive ruled out |
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| 13:40.11 | SaveTheRobots | ris: that means you have an entry in fstab |
| 13:40.12 | themill | Why is everyone religiously opposed to actually providing any useful output today? |
| 13:40.14 | jelly | !next |
| 13:40.15 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 13:40.22 | SaveTheRobots | doh. |
| 13:42.04 | colo-work | hehe |
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| 13:43.49 | SaveTheRobots | neoice: /dev file permissions will be handled by udev, edit/create a rule to set the permissions you want |
| 13:43.54 | SaveTheRobots | or just chmod as a temp fix :p |
| 13:47.25 | jeddi | I'm trying to get a VNC session running kde-plasma desktop - on the same (sid) VM I can easily launch xfce4 by changing the ~/.vnc/xstartup file to launch startxfce4 ... but can't work out what binary is needed to launch kde5 / plasma (not sddm or some other login manager) |
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| 13:54.30 | wolfi_ | Hello People. I love Linux and debian is my distro of choice. I have a huge problem though: Almost anything I do on my laptop, mostly multimedia things overheats it greatly! |
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| 13:55.14 | wolfi_ | Does anyone have experience in fixing overheating? I would be very very grateful for any help, I have not found anything relevant on the Internet sofar! |
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| 13:56.50 | darxmurf | wolfi_: how old is your laptop ? |
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| 13:58.22 | wolfi_ | daxmurf: It is pretty old, 5 years or so.. But the funny thing is, when I run my dualbooted windows 7, it runs a lot cooler. Can it be a configuration thing? |
| 13:59.21 | wolfi_ | Right now I have 55 C on debian. On Windows, I reach mid forties normally... |
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| 14:00.49 | eject_ck | I'm trying to configure multipath with debian 8.1 (Dell MD3600f + QLE2562), getting issues with this, anybody have success? I have system installed on /dev/sda1 (first path), but I still see 3 other pathes and they are detected and sdb sdc sdd |
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| 14:01.02 | eject_ck | multipath -v2 |
| 14:01.02 | eject_ck | Aug 13 17:59:43 | 3600a0980006b669c0000023e55bc7e75: ignoring map |
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| 14:01.08 | AndreeeCZ | hi. Is it wise to run a custom rpm repository on debian? |
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| 14:01.34 | eject_ck | https://paste.debian.net/291960/ |
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| 14:02.19 | x86iac | wolfi_: it was your professed love of debian that caused me to tear |
| 14:02.41 | phy1729 | AndreeeCZ: I'd run an apt repo |
| 14:02.52 | wolfi_ | x86_64, what do you mean? |
| 14:04.16 | SaveTheRobots | wolfi_: look into cpu frequency scaling, especially which governor you're using, could also be related to your graphics drivers (e.g. power throttling not being supported by open source drivers, etc) |
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| 14:04.25 | SaveTheRobots | after that, install and run powertop for suggestions |
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| 14:05.20 | AndreeeCZ | phy1729, the client machines are rpm-based |
| 14:05.31 | AndreeeCZ | (and that can't be changed) |
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| 14:05.54 | SaveTheRobots | AndreeeCZ: not wise at all :p |
| 14:05.56 | wolfi_ | SaveTheRobots, Yes, I did have problems finding the right ATI driver, until I realized, the proprietary one is not supported on linux. That can be it! |
| 14:06.02 | AndreeeCZ | Savemech, ok |
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| 14:07.03 | SaveTheRobots | wolfi_: indeed, could be :p have you also checked top, to see if any processes are chomping on your CPU? |
| 14:07.07 | Savemech | AndreeeCZ, u w00t m8? |
| 14:07.08 | SaveTheRobots | what's your current load? |
| 14:07.17 | AndreeeCZ | Savemech, hm? |
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| 14:07.26 | SaveTheRobots | Savemech: he meant to highlight me :p |
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| 14:07.37 | AndreeeCZ | ah sorry |
| 14:07.46 | Savemech | SaveTheRobots, AndreeeCZ jk lol :D |
| 14:07.53 | SaveTheRobots | :P |
| 14:08.10 | wolfi_ | SaveTheRobots, My CPU is at 5-15% |
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| 14:08.27 | x86iac | wolf_spam turn on your fan |
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| 14:09.51 | wolfi_ | SaveTheRobots, Thank you, I think it can be the graphics card. I have to find a better driver! |
| 14:10.11 | SaveTheRobots | wolfi_: no worries, good luck :) |
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| 14:10.40 | darxmurf | wolfi_: did you ever clean it ? |
| 14:11.27 | darxmurf | remove the battery, open all the holes under it (harddisk, ram and all) and use dry air to undust it |
| 14:11.46 | darxmurf | usually fans are getting full of dust and the airflow is pretty bad after few years |
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| 14:12.08 | darxmurf | if possible remove the keyboard to access directly the CPU fan |
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| 14:12.36 | wolfi_ | darxmurf, Cleaning, that's a good idea, thanks! |
| 14:12.58 | darxmurf | use compressed air |
| 14:13.07 | darxmurf | and do it outside :) |
| 14:13.18 | darxmurf | else you will eat dust :D |
| 14:13.35 | darxmurf | what kind of harddisk you have inside ? |
| 14:13.59 | wolfi_ | darxmurf, I hop it's not soo dirty.. My HDD is a SANDISK 320GB |
| 14:14.32 | darxmurf | okay this is good |
| 14:14.33 | darxmurf | some old HDD are gettin hot like hell sometimes |
| 14:14.33 | darxmurf | but SSD not :) |
| 14:14.51 | darxmurf | but really, the dust is killing machines quite quickly |
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| 14:16.57 | wolfi_ | darxmurf, yeah.. That's for sure.. The thing that strikes me though, is that it runs somewhat cooler on windows... That's why I have the suspicion it could be the Graphics driver. |
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| 14:17.42 | holiday | I have windows 8.1 on my laptop. I've read that I have to disable secure boot before installing Debian. However, after the installation, wouldn't that prevent me from using windows 8? |
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| 14:18.20 | wolfi_ | darxmurf, But thank you and everyone else for the help, I've come closer to solving this treachery |
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| 14:20.36 | KSX | hello |
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| 14:23.33 | karlpinc | Somehow my default search engine in iceweasel got changed to yahoo. Is this something that came with the last update or did something else happen? |
| 14:24.00 | KSX | what do i need to do to become a debian dev? |
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| 14:25.34 | karlpinc | holiday: I don't know anything about secure boot but I wouldn't think so. On the other hand you never know with MS. I suppose you could ask in #windows (or some place like that.) |
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| 14:26.38 | Brigo | KSX, ask in #debian-mentors |
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| 14:26.52 | Brigo | KSX, or check the documentation in debian.org |
| 14:27.06 | KSX | brigo, thanks |
| 14:27.45 | Brigo | karlpinc, i think it is only during the instalation so grub can write to the efi partition. |
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| 14:32.33 | holiday | Can someone explain the difference between current and current-live to me? http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ Would I need to disable UEFI with the current version, but not the current-live version? (standard.iso) |
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| 14:42.02 | garyDavid | Hi |
| 14:42.13 | garyDavid | Could you guys recommend best Free Software feed reader? |
| 14:42.32 | Brigo | holiday, i think current is the current stable installer and current-live is the live cd/dvd/usb sitck. |
| 14:42.33 | garyDavid | Or just recommend what you guys think are best feed/RSS readers. |
| 14:42.40 | x86iac | rss? i thought it was dead? |
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| 14:42.53 | rozie | garyDavid: liferea |
| 14:43.00 | garyDavid | rozie: Ah |
| 14:43.03 | garyDavid | rozie: Thanks! |
| 14:43.23 | rozie | I also liked akregator, but since KDE started to require mysql, I use it no more |
| 14:43.30 | garyDavid | rozie: Ah |
| 14:43.37 | holiday | Brigo: I guess I should of phrased my question as "Will the menu option come up with the current version (where it asks you to install now, or "try Debian") or is that only in the current-live version?" |
| 14:43.51 | rozie | and it was from kde 3.5, so a long time ago |
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| 14:43.55 | garyDavid | Ah |
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| 14:45.25 | themill | there is no link between akregator and mysql |
| 14:45.28 | Brigo | holiday, i have never used the live version in this century, but the installer just ask to start the text/graphical installer or the advanced options (iirc) -from a menu- |
| 14:46.08 | holiday | Brigo, the "current" version should do that right? |
| 14:46.57 | Brigo | holiday, if you want to install debian i recomend you the 8.1 network installer (i think that's the current). |
| 14:47.04 | Brigo | do you need firmware? |
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| 14:47.16 | rozie | themill: really? http://paste.debian.net/291971/ |
| 14:47.20 | holiday | Brigo, I need the nonfree wifi firmware |
| 14:47.45 | rozie | APT::Install-Recommends "0"; |
| 14:47.48 | rozie | APT::Install-Suggests "0"; |
| 14:47.50 | Brigo | holiday, find, the use http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 14:47.59 | rozie | themill: so I guess you are wrong |
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| 14:48.40 | Brigo | holiday, it will install and configure a base system and then asking for some more package to install -gnome, kde, apache, ssh, whatever. |
| 14:48.48 | holiday | Brigo, I was going to use that , just wanted to make sure that I get the menu |
| 14:49.04 | Brigo | holiday, yes, your are safe :) |
| 14:49.18 | knivsta | hi |
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| 14:49.19 | holiday | Brigo: thanks for the help |
| 14:49.29 | Brigo | holiday, you are wellcome :) |
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| 14:50.23 | themill | rozie: I can't replicate that here in a clean chroot |
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| 14:51.53 | rozie | themill: try installing lxde/xorg first |
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| 14:52.28 | rozie | I'm pretty sure I had this on clean install too, but it was long time ago |
| 14:52.28 | themill | if that means that mysql becomes required, then that's a pretty serious bug in the packaging of lxde (and I doubt that) |
| 14:52.31 | karlpinc | themill: Did 'newusers' do the trick? (Just curious.) |
| 14:53.06 | rozie | themill: mysql is required (and it's default DB engine) for KDE |
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| 14:53.52 | themill | rozie: KDE is an organisation. Some programs use the akonadi library and it can use mysql. |
| 14:54.24 | themill | karlpinc: I think that was jelly |
| 14:55.15 | rozie | themill: http://paste.debian.net/291977/ |
| 14:55.38 | rozie | somehow no akonadi packages are installed |
| 14:55.42 | karlpinc | themill: Darn. I get all you smart people mixed up. ;-) |
| 14:55.57 | rozie | dpkg -l | grep akona - empty set |
| 14:55.58 | dpkg | ii | grep akona - empty set 1.9-5 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 14:56.33 | rozie | themill: so I blame akregator for installing mysql |
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| 14:57.43 | mtn | rozie, I am on a different distro, but akregator is running fine without mysql installed |
| 14:59.29 | x86iac | no more mysql - time to move to mariadb |
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| 14:59.57 | x86iac | drop in replacment for mysql and no connection to oracle |
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| 15:02.04 | rozie | mtn: probably I could install akonadi-backend-sqlite but default is like I said |
| 15:02.17 | rozie | testing in chroot - gimme sec |
| 15:03.52 | rozie | themill: http://paste.debian.net/291978/ |
| 15:03.59 | rozie | again wants to install mysql |
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| 15:04.15 | rozie | fresh chroot made with debootstrap jessie /tmp/chrooted http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ |
| 15:04.38 | rozie | cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:04.39 | rozie | deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian jessie main |
| 15:04.52 | colo-work | rozie, tried --no-install-recommends? |
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| 15:05.33 | rozie | list of packages: |
| 15:05.35 | rozie | http://paste.debian.net/291979/ |
| 15:05.49 | rozie | colo-work: no. I'm talking about default. |
| 15:07.04 | rozie | colo-work: here you are http://paste.debian.net/291981/ |
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| 15:08.06 | rozie | akregator pulls mysql-server. period. |
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| 15:10.07 | x86_64 | x86iac, o/ |
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| 15:13.45 | jelly | karlpinc: amusingly, no, it did a SIGABRT, crashed and burned |
| 15:14.32 | jelly | karlpinc: ended up doing a while read from newusers.input.file; do adduser; chpasswd; done |
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| 15:21.51 | karlpinc | jelly: Well, I guess that works. |
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| 15:24.08 | jelly | (which is pretty much what I hoped to avoid) |
| 15:24.32 | karlpinc | I've found that in jessie DEBIAN_FRONTEND does not affect the debconf that comes up when using aptitude update. If I report this bug from my wheezy system will that confuse the bts? |
| 15:24.42 | karlpinc | jelly: Yeah. |
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| 15:25.53 | jelly | karlpinc: you can fix-up the bug report (Version: mainly) before sending |
| 15:26.04 | karlpinc | Ok. Thanks. |
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| 15:28.03 | karlpinc | Dunno just where the problem is. Since it happens when using aptitude I'll report it against that, but the bug might be in debconf or somewhere else in apt.... |
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| 15:34.08 | choice | My Debian server is responding slow today. top shows no load. How would you go about anylzing that? |
| 15:34.37 | choice | pinging it shows 50% package loss. |
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| 15:35.57 | choice | pingtime is 7s |
| 15:36.11 | choice | tried from different locations. so its not my local network. |
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| 15:42.07 | jamesc | I am trying to vrrpd working on 7.7 http://pastebin.com/TVC8qXAX |
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| 15:43.10 | ElPiru | hola gente |
| 15:43.14 | karlpinc | choice: It's either network load or lots-o-short-connections, like somebody repeatedly trying to guess ssh passwords. What does 'uptime' say? Is there cpu load? |
| 15:43.29 | mdasilva | hello all |
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| 15:43.53 | choice | karlpinc: no cpu load |
| 15:44.59 | cwong_on_irc | what can be the cause of disk full? use% is 3%, IUse% is 1%: touch: cannot touch ‘a’: No space left on device, /dev/xvda1 on / type xfs (rw,relatime,seclabel,attr2,inode64,noquota) |
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| 15:48.03 | karlpinc | choice: Used to be you used netstat, now you need to use the ip toolset. I forget. ss might be a good choice to see who's connecting, or use ip to get metrics. |
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| 15:48.49 | choice | karlpinc: right now its fast again. so maybe it was a temporary glitch. |
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| 15:52.52 | jamesc | Turns out I had a misconfigured -M x value |
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| 16:07.20 | Tux_Nix | anyone have any ideas how to change the login screen for gdm3?? |
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| 16:09.43 | uwjesq | When I try to install apt-get install libepoxy-dev:i386 libepoxy-dev apt says that the packages collide. |
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| 16:09.56 | Brigo | Tux_Nix, you have to change the themes. |
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| 16:11.06 | Brigo | Tux_Nix, i can't find anything to manage themes or gmd3 config in debian repos, maybe gnome-tweak-tool |
| 16:11.45 | Brigo | yes, it could be: * alternative user interface themes |
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| 16:12.56 | Brigo | Tux_Nix, maybe editing /etc/gdm3/daemon.conf |
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| 16:13.26 | Tux_Nix | gnome-shell.css |
| 16:13.31 | Tux_Nix | Brigo, ^^^ |
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| 16:14.11 | Brigo | Tux_Nix, /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css file? |
| 16:14.49 | tekzilla | i am trying to modify a live ISO (not debian) and put it back together as a bootable ISO using genisoimage (http://paste.debian.net/291994/). the modified ISO will boot on a KVM VM, but not on real hardware. someone with a clue whats going wrong ? |
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| 16:17.17 | ezra-s | tekzilla: real hardware? UEFI? |
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| 16:18.27 | tekzilla | ezra-s: no, regular BIOS |
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| 16:19.28 | tekzilla | these are old machines, no compatibility mode |
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| 16:20.44 | tekzilla | i also verified that the VM will boot off the actual USB drive |
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| 16:24.39 | karlpinc | tekzilla: Have you verified that the hardware will boot from a "normal" iso image? |
| 16:25.08 | tekzilla | karlpinc: yes it will boot the original ISO off the same USB device |
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| 16:28.01 | tekzilla | and thanks for the suggestions! i will try digging online some more |
| 16:28.12 | Junka | are backports an official thing? |
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| 16:28.29 | karlpinc | tekzilla: You could poke at it with a hex editor and look for differences between the original and your iso.... |
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| 16:28.38 | karlpinc | Junka: Yes. |
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| 16:30.41 | karlpinc | !tell Junka about backport caveat |
| 16:31.02 | tekzilla | karlpinc: maybe i'll actually try that! |
| 16:31.10 | varaindemian | anyone tried debian on a macbook pro or on any macbook? |
| 16:31.23 | Junka | karlpinc: thanks |
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| 16:32.54 | Junka | karlpinc: lmao, sns syndrome |
| 16:33.03 | uwjesq | So anyone it is not possible to cross compile in debian without chroot? Right, wrong? |
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| 16:39.59 | x86iac | varaindemian: toby once tried it |
| 16:40.18 | x86iac | uwjesq: you don't need chroot for crosscompiling |
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| 16:40.51 | tekzilla | karlpinc: the hex editor was a good idea, turns out the broken iso starts with 30KB of empty space, no idea how KVM would boot it |
| 16:40.58 | tekzilla | thats at least a starting point |
| 16:40.58 | x86iac | uwjesq: the logic of your actual question is confusing too |
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| 16:42.10 | uwjesq | x86iac: Yes. What apt is doing is confusing. |
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| 16:44.50 | uwjesq | x86iac: No hard feelings that debian does not realy help on the issue. I guess the debian way is to compile every dependency. |
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| 16:51.28 | hexnewbie | Now that the new Firefox is in wheezy/jessie, does anyone have an idea how to remove the "you're in fullscreen" nag that covers any video playing? |
| 16:51.54 | x86iac | uwjesq: as well as for selinux :( |
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| 16:52.21 | uwjesq | hexnewbie: I use youtube-dl but that might not be at all what you want. |
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| 16:52.50 | x86iac | uwjesq: what are you using for crosscompiling? |
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| 16:52.57 | r6ku | hexnewbie: full-screen-api.approval-required to false |
| 16:53.03 | hexnewbie | uwjesq: I'll settle with that, I just want to fix Iceweasel as well. |
| 16:53.07 | x86iac | uwjesq: youtube-dl is all you need :) |
| 16:53.54 | hexnewbie | r6ku: Oh, so it's with a dash. I tried to search without dash. Thank you very much :) |
| 16:54.04 | x86iac | r6ku: do they pop up that message to hide them phoning home your info? |
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| 16:54.32 | r6ku | how should I know? |
| 16:55.03 | uwjesq | x86iac: I tried several things. Now it is gcc and clang with flags. |
| 16:55.12 | x86iac | you don't know about use of iptables? and logging? |
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| 16:55.24 | x86iac | uwjesq: then mingw is good for it |
| 16:55.32 | uwjesq | x86iac: This is for GlPortal. |
| 16:55.44 | uwjesq | x86iac: Gotta take a call bbl. |
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| 16:56.53 | x86iac | i guess that was his actual phone number :) |
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| 17:12.21 | cxd13 | is the correct way to set custom DNS servers when we use dhcp to create a dhclient.conf file? |
| 17:12.30 | cxd13 | because /etc/resolv.conf is overwritten if modified |
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| 17:13.44 | x86iac | use dhcpcd it has options to prevent that |
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| 17:16.04 | cxd13 | thanks i'm installing it |
| 17:16.43 | varaindemian | x86iac: and how was the installation process? did he encounter any problems? |
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| 17:18.03 | cxd13 | x86iac: i have it installed but how do i use it. do i need to remove another package so that dhcpcd is used by default? |
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| 17:23.25 | sergei84 | How would I give fuse rights to a specific user now that the fuse group has been deprecated? |
| 17:25.12 | sergei84 | Anyone? |
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| 17:28.30 | trickshotjohnny | sergei84: you can grant access to the fusermount command to a user or group via /etc/sudoers |
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| 17:30.29 | sergei84 | trickshotjohnny: I see. Thanks. |
| 17:31.22 | hexnewbie | sergei84: Issue #733312 suggests it's being dropped in favour of allowing *all* users to mount fuse. Fortunately - at first I was a bit startled by your question :) You don't need to touch sudoers, but keep yourself in the fuse group for compatibility. |
| 17:31.23 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/733312 in fuse (closed): «fuse: Please reconsider the permissions on /dev/fuse and /bin/fusermount»; severity: normal; opened: 2013-12-28; last modified: 2014-04-29. |
| 17:31.35 | trickshotjohnny | sergei84: I'm able to mount via sshfs without any hackery directly. which specific fuse mount type are you trying? |
| 17:31.48 | trickshotjohnny | as a normal, unprivileges user, that is. |
| 17:32.01 | sergei84 | Coincidentally, sshfs. |
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| 17:32.13 | x86iac | varaindemian: i think he went back to windows 98se |
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| 17:32.27 | sergei84 | Trying to use the -o allow_other switch. |
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| 17:32.48 | x86iac | cxd13: you use it on the cli or in a script dhcpcd -R -N interface |
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| 17:33.24 | x86iac | cxd13: use it without the -R to get a resolv.conf then the -R will not overwrite it |
| 17:33.27 | trickshotjohnny | sshfs -o idmap=user tsj@my-dev-box:/ ~/test |
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| 17:33.54 | trickshotjohnny | that worked without root or any special options. running amd64 Jessie here. |
| 17:34.18 | x86iac | trickshotjohnny: it runs as the user you are |
| 17:34.21 | cxd13 | x86iac: thanks :) |
| 17:34.33 | cxd13 | i installed one that says dhcpcd-gtk though so i assumed it had GUI |
| 17:34.33 | sergei84 | trickshotjohnny: Useful. I'll try it right now. |
| 17:35.03 | x86iac | trickshotjohnny: tsj is the user |
| 17:35.42 | trickshotjohnny | `fusermount -u ~/test` to unmount. /bin/umount and /bin/mount need root, but you don't need those if there's a specific fuse mount executable to mount. |
| 17:35.52 | sergei84 | Unknown option? |
| 17:35.55 | x86iac | nice to see sshfs being used |
| 17:35.56 | trickshotjohnny | x86iac: tsj == trickshotjohnny, yes. |
| 17:36.04 | sergei84 | There must be something wrong with my use of the syntax... |
| 17:36.16 | trickshotjohnny | I needed to apt-get install sshfs |
| 17:36.23 | sergei84 | Oh, I have it. |
| 17:36.37 | sergei84 | I simply found the need recently to access using more than one user. |
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| 17:37.13 | x86iac | the sshd server on the remote needs to be configured for sftp |
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| 17:38.08 | sergei84 | It has been working. It's the 'allowing other users to use the mount point' that's working a bit less nicely unless I use sudo to enable the allow_other option. |
| 17:38.41 | x86iac | only that user can use that mount point - |
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| 17:39.14 | sergei84 | So I have found. I'm trying to see if there are better work-arounds for it than allow_other . |
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| 17:39.37 | x86iac | have all the users in the same group? i've never tried it - i give each user their own mount point to differerent remote dirs |
| 17:39.50 | x86iac | allow other is good |
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| 17:40.32 | x86iac | -o sshfs_debug -o follow_symlinks -o allow_other -o nonempty |
| 17:41.10 | sergei84 | Hm. I think I've found the problem. I can't pass the gid or group name directly, have to give a file with the properties. |
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| 17:48.07 | cxd13 | x86iac: did you mean -r -n because there's no -R -N options |
| 17:48.18 | cxd13 | -r is request address |
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| 17:52.37 | sergei84 | Hm. It seems like idmap has to do with the remote mapping. So far I'm led to believe there might not be a non-hacksh way of accessing the mount with other local users other than allow_other |
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| 18:00.40 | x86iac | cxd13: man dhcpcd shows -N Prevents dhcpcd from replacing /etc/ntp.conf |
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| 18:03.22 | cxd13 | that's weird, i get dhcpcd: invalid option -- 'R' |
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| 18:04.30 | janis | Hi guys. I am trying to install build-essential:i386 on my amd64 machine but it complains about conflicts with the 64 bit (installed) versions of gcc. dpkg --print-foreign-architectures shows i386. How do I proceed to compile 32 bit sources? |
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| 18:11.12 | jhutchins | Does the jessie installer have an option to use init instead of systemd? |
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| 18:12.59 | greenman | can upgrading change networking? #apache is insisting that my probme is networking, but I'm saying that my apache worked before I updated and now it doesn't so how can that be networking |
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| 18:13.58 | ezra-s | greenman: curl your apache from the same machine, if it connects, but you can't from another "box" then it is a networking issue |
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| 18:18.16 | x86iac | cxd13: what version at the bottom of man dhcpcd |
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| 18:18.59 | greenman | Hmm... If I curl the vip, I get connection refused on port 80, but if I curl localhost, I get the page |
| 18:19.29 | dnfg | Hello, I have an issue with a port in debian. The application says: "local - 127.0.0.1 : 5029 - Connection refused (111) - trying again", ¿How can I open the port for this application? |
| 18:20.27 | ezra-s | greenman: a networking issue |
| 18:21.45 | greenman | ezra-s: so, back to the original question, does updating debian change the networking? |
| 18:22.18 | ezra-s | greenman: I very much doubt that |
| 18:23.06 | greenman | ezra-s: this is what makes this super confusing. It worked pre-upgrade. Post-upgrade doesn't work |
| 18:23.20 | x86iac | greenman: what is the default for the server? |
| 18:23.28 | greenman | x86iac: default? |
| 18:23.30 | x86iac | in the conf files |
| 18:24.41 | ezra-s | greenman: I think you maybe have more success not worrying about upgrade or not upgrade, and check your network configuration/connectivity, for example a connection refused usually means nothing is listening in so called port, so, maybe you have some "naming" issues? try connecting to ip directly |
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| 18:25.07 | x86iac | the top most virtualhost |
| 18:25.21 | cxd13 | x86iac: 6.0.5 |
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| 18:25.36 | greenman | x86iac: just the default |
| 18:25.37 | x86iac | cxd13: lol mine is 3.1 |
| 18:25.47 | x86iac | so why the above default? |
| 18:26.45 | x86iac | if no hostname is given (localhost) the topmost virtual host is done - is there a index.html in that location |
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| 18:27.51 | ikus060 | Hello, for debian jessie with systemd. Where should I create the new .service files ? to /usr/lib/systemd/system ?? |
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| 18:31.48 | cxd13 | x86iac: oh you must be using oldstable or something? |
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| 18:38.30 | Brigo | ikus060, no, in /etc/systemd/system |
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| 18:39.16 | Brigo | units in /etc/systemd/system will take precedence over /usr/lib/systemd/system ones. |
| 18:39.56 | Brigo | ikus060, so you don't need to modify the debian provided units (which will be cleanner for upgrades) |
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| 18:42.31 | ebernhardson | having an issue with systemd i think, i installed an externally created .deb and it ships with an init.d. I am trying to convert it to a systemd unit. The unit works fine, but only if i give it a new name. If i rm /etc/init.d/foo and create /etc/systemd/system/foo.service, even after daemon-reload systemd wont start the service |
| 18:42.59 | ebernhardson | but `systemctl status foo` does show its reading the systemd unit..so i dunno |
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| 18:46.55 | drzed | i've got a strange nfs4 problem: i'm mount /home via nfs and some userids are mapped to 4294967294 while others are not |
| 18:47.05 | drzed | any ideas what the reason could be? |
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| 18:47.35 | jhutchins | drzed: Do the users exist on both systems? |
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| 18:48.10 | drzed | jhutchins: yes, they are stored in ldap; getent $USERNAME works |
| 18:48.47 | drzed | so i assume nss / libnss-ldap (nslcd) works |
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| 18:50.10 | jhutchins | drzed: Outside my experience I'm afraid. |
| 18:50.27 | trickshotjohnny | drzed: sounds like you might not have the idmap RPC service running on both nodes. check that. /usr/sbin/rpcinfo can help with that. |
| 18:50.37 | drzed | jhutchins: any ideas how i could debug this? |
| 18:50.59 | trickshotjohnny | you shouldn't need the ldap nss stuff with NFSv4 since user IDs are transmitted as string identifiers and not numerical UID/GID pairs. |
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| 18:51.23 | trickshotjohnny | that's only if you really absolutely must have UID/GID match up with user/group names perfectly everywhere. |
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| 18:51.59 | x86iac | cxd13: type dhcpcd -V to see what it says -V is not a valid option btw |
| 18:52.00 | drzed | trickshotjohnny: /usr/sbin/rpc.idmapd is in the process list of bothe |
| 18:52.32 | drzed | and i'm using ldap also for authentication |
| 18:53.17 | trickshotjohnny | I believe it only is required on the server endpoint |
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| 18:54.35 | trickshotjohnny | you've setup /etc/nsswitch.conf to point to ldap, too? |
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| 18:54.45 | trickshotjohnny | you should, you said getent works, and that's what it uses for config |
| 18:55.21 | drzed | yes, ldap is in nsswitch.conf |
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| 18:55.46 | drzed | (for passwd, group, shadow) |
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| 18:56.20 | trickshotjohnny | are these files owned by root? root squash will remap them to the nobody user |
| 18:56.55 | drzed | trickshotjohnny: no, as they are home dirs they are owend by the respective users |
| 18:58.57 | drzed | it gets even stranger, sometimes the mapping works sometimes not |
| 18:59.27 | drzed | the really akward thing is that i do not have any error messages in syslog or in the console while mounting |
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| 19:00.13 | drzed | i already set the verbosity of idmap.conf to 7 but still no useful messages in syslog |
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| 19:03.11 | trickshotjohnny | well, it's definitely mapping to nobody user and group. -1 and -2 which is the that number in unsigned int |
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| 19:04.18 | drzed | sometimes only the group of a user gets mapped incorrectly |
| 19:04.29 | drzed | sometimes user and group |
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| 19:05.37 | drzed | e.g. drwxr-xr-x 16 tor 4294967294 752 Aug 13 03:01 tor |
| 19:05.50 | drzed | (the group should be "tor") |
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| 19:07.44 | trickshotjohnny | are the home directories on a separate partition from the root nfs export directory? |
| 19:08.03 | drzed | trickshotjohnny: i even have a dir of a user which was deleted (i.e. not resolveable via getent) that is mapped correctly no "nobody" (not -1) |
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| 19:08.46 | trickshotjohnny | sounds like a caching issue |
| 19:09.04 | drzed | trickshotjohnny: yes they are on sep. lvm volume |
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| 19:09.25 | drzed | and get mapped by bind mount into the nfs4 "root" export dir |
| 19:10.08 | trickshotjohnny | ok, you probably need to specify the crossmnt option on the root export dir |
| 19:10.12 | drzed | the same issued exists in other export dir, however imho /home is the best example for my problem |
| 19:10.23 | trickshotjohnny | you may want to specify no_subtree_check, also. |
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| 19:10.46 | drzed | no_subtree_check is enabled |
| 19:11.06 | dnfg | I added those 2 rules, and still reject the connection: http://justpaste.it/n00m |
| 19:11.56 | trickshotjohnny | I had to enable crossmnt because I was doing the same thing. bind mounts to dirs under /home on a separate partition from /srv living in the / part |
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| 19:12.41 | drzed | trickshotjohnny: did u experience that same issue? |
| 19:13.01 | trickshotjohnny | something similar. crossmnt fixed part, and the other part was idmap troubleshooting. |
| 19:13.18 | trickshotjohnny | no ldap in my setup either, so I don't think it's your ldap config. getent working should tell you that part is fine. |
| 19:14.09 | trickshotjohnny | you may also need to specify the domain name in the /etc/idmap.conf file, too. |
| 19:15.13 | drzed | i did specify the domain (also tried w/o) both tha same result, the domain does get mapped correctly by idmap |
| 19:15.39 | drzed | at least according to syslog (when increasing the verbosity in idmapd.conf) |
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| 19:39.40 | karlpinc | s3a: Dunno. Does the server side need to agree or do they settle on the lowest common value? |
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| 19:41.20 | karlpinc | s3a: Ah. No compresson config for sshd. However, the compression level setting is for protocol version 1 only. You're likely using v2. |
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| 19:43.04 | s3a | karlpinc, so does that mean I just simply cannot increase the compression level? |
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| 19:47.41 | x86iac | can the compression lib be changed? |
| 19:48.15 | \\Mr_C\\ | will the 32bit debian access all 8 gigs of ram if installed? |
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| 19:48.36 | s3a | \\Mr_C\\, if you get the pae iso yes |
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| 19:50.15 | s3a | x86iac, i don't think so |
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| 20:01.40 | trickshotjohnny | \\Mr_C\\: you can with PAE, but each userspace process is still restricted to 3GB max userspace mem |
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| 20:14.10 | adabo | Is it possible to dual boot arch+debian? |
| 20:14.10 | dnfg | how could i open the 5029 port ? |
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| 20:14.46 | adabo | Actually, is it possible to triple boot Window7+Debian+Arch? |
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| 20:15.22 | mtn | adabo, of course |
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| 20:16.08 | adabo | I have win+deb already. Currently I'm on Debian. Can I install Arch on the same drive as Debian using a virtual box while Debian is running? |
| 20:16.45 | adabo | Or do I have to reboot and use cd/usb? |
| 20:16.52 | mtn | adabo, install in virtualbox? sure. you can install many in virtualbox, but that is not dualbootiing |
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| 20:17.02 | adabo | I didn't say that. |
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| 20:17.51 | mtn | adabo, reall? "the same drive as Debian using a virtual box" |
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| 20:18.36 | adabo | mtn: Right. In other words, can Arch be installed on the same drive as debian. |
| 20:18.43 | adabo | WHile I'm running debian. |
| 20:18.47 | NightMonkey | Howdy. I'm creating a deb repo. Does apt support HTTPS SNI? :) |
| 20:19.02 | adabo | Instead of booting into Arch installation .iso |
| 20:19.13 | mtn | adabo, well, those are very different words :) but, yes you can install other oses, but you do so from install media, like a live disk |
| 20:19.33 | adabo | mtn: That's not what I mean either xD |
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| 20:20.04 | adabo | mtn: I want a real triple boot scenario. |
| 20:20.12 | x86iac | dnfg: run a server on it or some netcat etc |
| 20:20.29 | mtn | adabo, yes, I know. use a live disk and install away. I have 4 on my system |
| 20:20.30 | Brigo | adabo, you meant run the install in virtualbox and intall it in the same drive as debian? |
| 20:20.39 | ikus060 | On Debian Wheezy. I'm trying to run `sudo btrfs replace ...` but the `replace`command doesn't seam to exists in wheezy |
| 20:20.55 | adabo | mtn: Just curious if I can actually *completely* (not virtuall) install Arch from a virtual environment running from Debian. |
| 20:21.02 | mtn | adabo, no |
| 20:21.07 | adabo | Brigo: I said those words! |
| 20:21.10 | adabo | Brigo: Yes xD |
| 20:21.11 | hexnewbie | adabo: All the things that you've said are possible, even simultaneously, but they are three different things, so you need to decide which one you want :) |
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| 20:21.33 | adabo | hexnewbie: I'm only saying one thing, but I think it's being misunderstood. |
| 20:21.41 | Brigo | adabo, the problem is debian is running in that disk so you cannot umount or resize the debian root paritition. |
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| 20:21.55 | hexnewbie | adabo: You usually choose one - virtual machine, sharing a "drive" and/or filesystem, and dual-boot |
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| 20:22.03 | Brigo | adabo, if you have free space and you manage to make it avaiable to virtualbox, it could be possible. |
| 20:22.25 | adabo | Brigo: Yes. I have enough free space. |
| 20:22.55 | hexnewbie | adabo: Technically, you can install a distro anywhere, then rsync anywhere and run it anywhere. You can even rsync it in a folder and chroot into it. |
| 20:22.59 | adabo | Would the VB Arch "see" the Debian Drive? |
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| 20:23.41 | hexnewbie | adabo: You can even have an Arch chroot that you sometimes boot in, or start in a virtualbox as well (although the last doesn't make sense when you can chroot into it) |
| 20:23.57 | adabo | Brigo: "... you cannot umount or resize the debian root". I don't have a root partition. Debian is install on 1 partition and 1 swap. |
| 20:24.14 | Brigo | adabo, that partition is de debian root partition. |
| 20:24.30 | adabo | *blushes* |
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| 20:25.08 | adabo | Brigo: So it would be easier to just reboot with a usb-iso and install from there? |
| 20:25.24 | adabo | hexnewbie: I don't know what chroot is. |
| 20:25.25 | Brigo | ikus060, may be the wheezy brtfs tools are too old |
| 20:25.31 | Brigo | adabo, a lot |
| 20:25.56 | Brigo | ,v btrfs-tools |
| 20:25.57 | judd | Package: btrfs-tools on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.19+20100601-3; wheezy: 0.19+20120328-7.1; wheezy-backports: 3.17-1.1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.17-1.1; sid: 4.0-2; stretch: 4.0-2 |
| 20:26.00 | adabo | Brigo: That's fine. I prefer whatever's easier. |
| 20:26.15 | Brigo | ikus060, try to install the new ones form backports. |
| 20:26.15 | adabo | Thanks, Brigo, hexnewbie, mtn |
| 20:26.28 | Brigo | adabo, you are welcome :) |
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| 20:27.00 | hexnewbie | adabo: Basically, you have your Debian root. You can have another Debian or another distro altogether in a directory (/mnt/debian2) - could be on a separate drive or not. You can then chroot into that directory and run commands as if you were running it. |
| 20:27.44 | adabo | hexnewbie: That's interesting |
| 20:28.24 | Brigo | adabo, if you think that's interesting, check lxc |
| 20:28.27 | adabo | But I think I'll just stick to the classic method and whatever feeble knowledge I have. I don't want to break too much. |
| 20:28.33 | hexnewbie | adabo: So if you can have Debian in /dev/sda1 and Arch in /dev/sda2, in Debian you can mount /dev/sda2 in /mnt/arch, then chroot /mnt/arch and run commands there. It's a little bit more complicated if you want the programs to be useful (see schroot if interested) |
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| 20:29.33 | adabo | hexnewbie: But would still be in the debian "enviroment". GNOME and all that I have installed already, yeah? |
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| 20:30.28 | hexnewbie | adabo: If you don't stop the Debian environment explicitly, yes. You can even start both environments if you have time to waste and configure that, but it would be crazy to attempt :) |
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| 20:32.38 | adabo | hexnewbie: I'm not that *crazy* yet. |
| 20:32.43 | Brigo | adabo, check lxc and you will see how easy it could be. |
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| 20:32.48 | adabo | I'm working on it though. |
| 20:32.58 | adabo | Brigo: :D |
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| 20:33.09 | adabo | Alright guys, gotta go, and thanks again! |
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| 20:40.48 | \\Mr_C\\ | thanks |
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| 20:41.42 | zh1 | will debian lxde use less ram at base install than lubuntu? |
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| 20:43.22 | Brigo | zh1, what is lubuntu? lxde ubuntu? |
| 20:43.37 | zh1 | Brigo yes |
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| 20:44.13 | Brigo | zh1, i have never used it, but i would expect big diferecies |
| 20:44.34 | Brigo | differences* |
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| 20:44.56 | zh1 | Brigo have you used debian lxde? |
| 20:45.10 | r6ku | I think lxde on debian rakes about 200mb~ of ram |
| 20:45.13 | Equa | debian minimal install takes about 150mb to run. minimal lxde installed total to 350mb to run |
| 20:45.15 | Brigo | zh1, not sure, i think no. I use mate. |
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| 20:57.00 | r6ku | honestly the differences in ram usage between the lighter DEs is irrelevant, ram is cheap after all. lxde uses less cpu than xfce or mate which is what you want on lower end systems. |
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| 21:01.54 | bencaradocdavies | Anyone tried running Skype with GCC 5 libstdc++6 (5.2)? Skype 4.3.0.37-1 i386 (for wheezy) runs fine on unstable/amd64 multiarch before GCC 5 but as the binary is linked to libstdc++.so.6 I am pretty concerned that it may be ABI-incompatible. |
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| 21:07.35 | Sayona | Hi, how I create a backup / image for my debian? to rollback if something not oki |
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| 21:20.13 | x86iac | i think fluxbox takes less then lxde |
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| 21:20.34 | centrx | yeah |
| 21:20.39 | centrx | the boxes are lighter than LXDE |
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| 21:39.46 | wm4 | can I install a 64 bit kernel on a 32 bit userspace? dpkg complains about mismatching package architecture |
| 21:40.16 | wm4 | a 64 bit kernel on x86 can obviously handle 32 bit userspace, but maybe there's a debian specific catch? |
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| 21:44.43 | x86iac | maybe in a vm? |
| 21:45.18 | x86iac | it is the bit of the cpu |
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| 21:47.13 | jhutchins | wm4: I've heard that you can run a 64b kernel with a 32b userspace, but I'm not sure what you have to do to get there. |
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| 21:48.16 | wm4 | jhutchins: well, I started by building a 64 bit kernel |
| 21:48.22 | centrx | wm4, There is a package with "amd64" in the name, for the i386 arch |
| 21:48.28 | wm4 | but dpkg doesn't want to install it (" package architecture (amd64) does not match system (i386)") |
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| 21:49.32 | centrx | wm4, linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64:i386 |
| 21:50.05 | centrx | wm4, Probably when you compiled it, it was targeting the amd64 arch for whatever reason? |
| 21:50.21 | wm4 | centrx: I toggled the 64 bit flag in "make menuconfig" |
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| 21:50.53 | wm4 | also I need a 4.1 kernel, so I can't use pre-built packages |
| 21:51.07 | centrx | wm4, Right but the error you pasted is a dpkg error, from the Debian packaging system |
| 21:51.34 | wm4 | centrx: I used "make deb-pkg" (plus some parameters) |
| 21:51.35 | centrx | wm4, So the Debian package itself has an arch target that checks against the system arch |
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| 21:52.09 | centrx | wm4, Possibly: a) either download the correct arch with apt-get source, or b) change the debian/rules file (or whatever it is) to point to i386 instead of amd64 for the Debian arch |
| 21:52.17 | centrx | arch = architecture |
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| 21:52.23 | centrx | CPU arch |
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| 21:52.58 | wm4 | can I just force dpkg to install the package instead? |
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| 21:54.17 | centrx | wm4, That might work, but I think it would cause problems in the future with unsatisfied dependences when installing other packages, even if it's possible |
| 21:54.33 | centrx | wm4, You can also ask in #debian-kernel on irc.oftc.net |
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| 22:00.24 | wm4 | ok this ended unhappy - kernel panic because no init found |
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| 22:00.32 | wm4 | I assume it built a nonsense initrd |
| 22:00.58 | x86iac | init is /sbin/init |
| 22:01.29 | x86iac | bad 'root' in grub? |
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| 22:02.53 | wm4 | x86iac: no, the root works just fine for 32 bit kernels |
| 22:03.23 | wm4 | x86iac: and init is that, but debian first mounts an initrd filesystem, and runs init from there (not from the "actual" harddisk) |
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| 22:05.11 | wm4 | I just realized I can't even install a new debian system with debootstrap, because of the hilarious C++ ABI transition that's currently going on |
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| 22:07.34 | x86iac | then it needs a 64bit init |
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| 22:08.42 | x86iac | you don't need an initrd if you build the needed drivers into the kernel - probably mostly usually sata drivers |
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| 22:25.03 | Dan34 | hi can you advise a good automatic updater that search for me on every login? I use Jessie 64bit |
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| 22:25.54 | centrx | Dan34, https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades |
| 22:27.03 | Dan34 | centrx, thanks |
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| 22:30.55 | Dan34 | centrx, I had it yet. But I can't see it on my KDE menu list. Do you know how to find it? |
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| 22:31.25 | centrx | Dan34, It works automatically I think, there's no interface |
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| 22:31.35 | centrx | user interface |
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| 22:31.53 | centrx | if it's configured: https://wiki.debian.org/UnattendedUpgrades#automatic_call_via_.2Fetc.2Fapt.2Fapt.conf.d.2F20auto-upgrades |
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| 22:39.36 | Dan34 | centrx, i don't know how to use the line command i am a newbie I need a GUI for it otherwise i need to try all those lines trying to do a mess and break my OS, I don't understand why debian developers doesn't 'make it easy stupid!' |
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| 22:40.03 | BlaDe^ | hi all, I just made a pretty major typo. Hoping someone can help. |
| 22:40.05 | Dan34 | i just know few very basic stuff that's it |
| 22:40.14 | BlaDe^ | I did mount /dev/xvdf /backups -- when I meant to type /dev/xvdg |
| 22:40.23 | BlaDe^ | /dev/xvdf was formerly /opt/data and houses my database files |
| 22:40.41 | BlaDe^ | It's all still working somehow, and the data is still in /opt/data but in lsblk I see /dev/xvdf at /backups |
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| 22:41.21 | BlaDe^ | if I try to mount it to /opt/data it says: http://pastie.org/private/xxnhvvzfasc9fxn82p8taa |
| 22:41.22 | Dan34 | everytime needs to configure configure why don't they make it easy?? |
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| 22:43.12 | centrx | Dan34, I don't know how to do it any other way |
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| 22:43.25 | centrx | Dan34, You might want to try Ubuntu, they have more GUI oriented user ease newbie tools |
| 22:44.25 | centrx | Dan34, You might be able to install cron-apt and not have to do anything, but I'm not sure if that completely installs the updates without configuration |
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| 22:47.00 | Dan34 | centrx, I like debian for its etical way to be. The only problem is that I hate the terminal and love the GUIs. I will try this cron-apt thanks |
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| 22:52.06 | Dan34 | I think debian developers should listen to Linus Torvalds when he goes crazy just because a linux distro he was using, asked him the root password for a printer lol |
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| 22:56.18 | misterio | Hello, I want to send a installation report, in the process I am asked to provide information about my partition table. I want to know exactly what "raw partition table" means |
| 22:56.28 | misterio | an installation* |
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| 22:57.31 | misterio | I am following this template, in case it help https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s04.html.es#submit-bug |
| 22:57.37 | misterio | I am following this template, in case it help https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch05s04.html.en#submit-bug |
| 22:58.12 | x86iac | Dan34: you mean you don't have a password for your printer? uh oh |
| 22:58.36 | centrx | misterio, Probably means like /dev/sdb1 |
| 22:58.43 | centrx | or without the number |
| 22:59.24 | misterio | centrx, I know what a partition table is but, "raw partition table" confused me |
| 23:00.07 | jelly | misterio: I guess it's a silly way to say "specific output from a partition table editor that could be used to fully recreate an exact partition table" |
| 23:01.08 | misterio | jelly, I guess so, df -T1 gives information I would not. So how should I proceed? |
| 23:01.40 | jelly | misterio: in case of DOS MBR type partition table format, output of "sfdisk -d /dev/sda" or even "fdisk -l /dev/sda" might do |
| 23:02.28 | Dan34 | x86iac, linux torvalds wrote an angry article against a linux distro maybe opensuse because it asked him the password to make work his printer |
| 23:02.40 | jelly | misterio: that's probably "df -Tl" (lowercase l, not digit 1) |
| 23:02.53 | wm4 | sigh, couldn't find a way to make debian do 64 bit kernel in 32 bit userland correctly... not even setting KBUILD_DEBARCH=i386 worked |
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| 23:03.32 | misterio | oh, yeah jelly, I misspelt it :) |
| 23:03.35 | x86iac | yeasir you already said that - yea opensuse is just plain a renegade linux |
| 23:03.40 | misterio | I am trying your commands out |
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| 23:04.43 | jelly | Dan34: you probably won't get far asking people to implement stuff that you desire on their own free time, in Debian |
| 23:05.11 | misterio | jelly, I think I will include the output of sfdisk -d "device", thanks |
| 23:05.24 | jelly | misterio: or do both, doesn't hurt |
| 23:05.28 | misterio | I just want my report to be as helpful as possible |
| 23:05.46 | jelly | more the reason to provide as much info as possible |
| 23:05.58 | misterio | :) |
| 23:06.10 | Dan34 | jelly, what do you mean with you won't get far? |
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| 23:11.47 | Dan34 | jelly, I am asking nothing just noticing that debian jessie still needs knowledge for the terminal that newbies have not |
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| 23:17.01 | matthiaskrgr | o.O |
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| 23:19.17 | koeppea | matthiaskrgr, what's wrong with his quit message? |
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| 23:19.41 | matthiaskrgr | was that a quit message? |
| 23:20.02 | matthiaskrgr | it looks like someone from freenode force-disconnected him .. |
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| 23:20.52 | matthiaskrgr | the format is different anyway |
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| 23:22.48 | format_c | Mhh now as you say it... |
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| 23:23.13 | format_c | hopefully we won't be killed 'cause we're currently off-topic |
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| 23:24.08 | x86iac | just noted in your internet file |
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| 23:28.06 | tga | hello, does anyone happen to know about getting shared folders (vmhgfs) to work in debian 8? |
| 23:28.21 | tga | make that vmware shared folders for a debian guest |
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| 23:39.04 | Brigo | tga, i only find this in debian stable repos: open-vm-tools-dkms |
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| 23:44.50 | tga | Brigo, right, that's broken, at least on 4.x kernels |
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| 23:45.27 | zeden | Quick question for iceweasel/firefox users: are you getting a "Secure connection failed" message when accessing https://tracker.debian.org ? |
| 23:45.54 | tga | zeden, works for me |
| 23:46.09 | format_c | zeden, not an issue for me |
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| 23:46.52 | Brigo | ,v open-vm-tools-dkms |
| 23:46.53 | judd | Package: open-vm-tools-dkms on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 2:9.4.6-1770165-8~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:9.4.6-1770165-8; jessie-backports: 2:9.10.2-2822639-1~bpo8+1; wheezy-backports-sloppy: 2:9.10.2-2822639-1~bpo70+1; sid: 2:9.10.2-2822639-1; stretch: 2:9.10.2-2822639-1 |
| 23:47.09 | Toffe | Getting a LOT of "xx" 400 166 "-" "-" requests on my server, anyone know what it can be? |
| 23:47.16 | misterio | shit, I finished my installation report but apparently the google mail service is a motherfucker which won't let me send the e-mail unless I use one of their applications |
| 23:47.19 | zeden | tga and format_c thanks for checking! |
| 23:47.32 | Brigo | Toffe, someone try to access as admin, i guess. |
| 23:47.55 | Toffe | admin? |
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| 23:48.03 | Brigo | Toffe, anyway, better ask in #httpd |
| 23:48.22 | Brigo | Toffe, admin of the web server, may be i am totally wrong. |
| 23:48.33 | Toffe | its from different ipes all around |
| 23:48.49 | Brigo | Toffe, not the wer server, the service, like wordpress or owncloud, sorry. |
| 23:49.10 | Toffe | ooh |
| 23:49.15 | Toffe | got an owncloud server there |
| 23:51.36 | Toffe | haha funny Brigo looks like a trail :P |
| 23:51.37 | Toffe | http://link.jepb.no/cE39 |
| 23:51.57 | dimitry7 | hi guys, how can I disable ssl 2 handshake compatibility from apache? |
| 23:51.58 | Toffe | the iptes differ for each time :P |
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| 23:54.27 | Brigo | Toffe, if i am right you can use fail2ban to mitigate it. It will band ips who try too much. |
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| 23:58.23 | misterio | YEAAAAH! I managed to send the installation report |
| 23:58.27 | misterio | <---- PRO |
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| 23:58.55 | format_c | misterio, *clapping* |
| 23:59.24 | misterio | this is my first time submitting a report... I lost... my debian virginity |
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