| 00:00.15 | cxd13 | koollman: how would i do the tcp[13] in tcpdump? i'm getting syntax error |
| 00:00.52 | midacts | is iRedMial better than setting up your own postfix box? |
| 00:00.56 | mutante | "tcp[tcpflags] & (tcp-syn) != 0" something |
| 00:01.43 | koollman | I do not get a syntax error with that. |
| 00:02.11 | cxd13 | are you writing tcpdump tcp[13] == 2.. etc |
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| 00:02.40 | koollman | hm. Maybe I do get a strange behavior instead. I'll check again |
| 00:03.20 | Chani | I'm having a crazy problem with debconf-set-selections, and google's only showing one person with the problem, who never got an answer. :/ |
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| 00:03.44 | Chani | basically, it looks like it made my changes, then I dpkg-reconfigure to apply them, and poof, they're gone. |
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| 00:03.52 | koollman | cxd13: nah, works for me. maybe if you have something starting with tcp that can match... |
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| 00:04.04 | Chani | the other person described it in more detail here: http://serverfault.com/questions/539911/setting-debconf-selections-for-keyboard-configuration-fails-layout-ends-up-as |
| 00:04.05 | koollman | cxd13: try this : tcpdump -v -pni eth0 'tcp[13]' == 2 |
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| 00:04.22 | Chani | although in my case it's tzdata and locales I'm trying to configure. |
| 00:04.29 | koollman | (if your network card is not eth0, adapt it) |
| 00:05.46 | cxd13 | koollman: ya that's good. it is showing me my ip > destination IP when i click on links |
| 00:06.03 | koollman | yup. |
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| 00:06.43 | cxd13 | what does it mean when it says thinks like cksum 0xeb68 (incorrect -> 0x3640) |
| 00:06.56 | cxd13 | things* |
| 00:07.06 | cafuego | hackers |
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| 00:07.40 | koollman | cxd13: doesn't matter much. usually means the checksum is not yet calculated/modified, which on outgoing packets may happen for various 'normal' reasons |
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| 00:07.56 | Chani | ooh. :/ http://serverfault.com/questions/84521/automate-dpkg-reconfigure-tzdata/84528#84528 does not give me hope... apparently tzdata will prefer /etc/timezone over debconf-set-selections :( and locales must be doing the dsame |
| 00:08.13 | Chani | darnit, the whole point of this was to *not* bypass debconf in my scripts... |
| 00:12.43 | cxd13 | koollman: thanks for the info |
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| 00:13.34 | unreal1999 | seems linux has the same shit as windows, it keeps low resolution after exiting a game |
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| 00:14.23 | cxd13 | unreal1999: neither windows nor linux do that for me |
| 00:14.26 | at0m|c | unreal1999: looks like your game doesn't set it back |
| 00:15.07 | Chani | >.< well, so much for debconf-set-selections; I'll go back to patching files in /etc |
| 00:15.08 | unreal1999 | yes. i had that with unreal tournament 2004 under windows and now the same with unreal tournament 1999 under linux |
| 00:15.17 | Chani | but really, there ought to be a better way.... :/ |
| 00:15.35 | abrotman | unreal1999: you do realize that they were using XFree86 back then? Things have changed quite a bit |
| 00:17.00 | unreal1999 | i have no idea, i am totally clueless. i understand that this game uses lower resolution but why do in need to see gigantic letters if i exit the game, |
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| 00:19.34 | Chani | x*free*? that's pretty darn old :) |
| 00:19.40 | mutante | unreal1999: what resolution do you want? xrandr -s 1024x760 or something |
| 00:19.50 | Chani | oh, 1999. that'd do it |
| 00:20.06 | abrotman | or play a game that's from this century |
| 00:20.07 | Chani | getting any game from 1999 working would take a lot of luck these days, I expect |
| 00:20.12 | abrotman | clings to CaesarII |
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| 00:20.36 | Chani | or a lot of crazy hacks |
| 00:20.39 | mutante | unreal1999: Deck 16 :) |
| 00:20.58 | mutante | or run it in a virtual machine maybe, for convenience |
| 00:21.13 | n0t | Holy crap I hate you guys. I'm digging through my old shit to find UT now. MUST.PLAY. |
| 00:21.20 | Chani | hahaha |
| 00:21.40 | Chani | I'm thinking about my old dosbox and freedos folders... |
| 00:21.50 | unreal1999 | well the game i finally made it work, and play online, only no sound but that is fixable |
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| 00:22.24 | unreal1999 | maybe i can give you the link of the torrent |
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| 00:23.29 | unreal1999 | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:5acadf7bd92bc68066044f6ba1640b5107dac528&dn=Unreal%5Ftournament&tr=http%3A%2F%2Fmgtracker.org%3A2710%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969%2Fannounce&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.openbittorrent.com%3A80%2Fannounce |
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| 00:24.43 | unreal1999 | n0t: do you have it? |
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| 00:31.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | back in the times when x was free... |
| 00:31.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | ... and 86 |
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| 00:41.27 | n0t | unreal11999: i found my old ut2k4 discs :) |
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| 00:48.04 | mutante | UT in Wine: Rating: Platinum :) https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=124 |
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| 00:55.34 | n0t | You know, my discs say Windows 98/ME/2000/XP but on the install CD I see a linux-installer.sh ... I also remember seeing a linux version of the discs at the store when I got this. I wonder... |
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| 01:26.11 | CyberTails | Hello Folks, I just installed Debian onto my External HDD, but whenever I try to boot to it, it skips over it and goes to my Primary HDD (and I have it set to boot from USB first) |
| 01:26.51 | mutante | CyberTails: sounds like BIOS settings |
| 01:27.20 | mutante | CyberTails: like having to tell it to boot from external USB, and sometimes it gives you 2 options. either "emulate FDD" or "emulate HDD" |
| 01:27.45 | CyberTails | Also, I tried to boot it with PLoP and it just froze completely |
| 01:27.54 | CyberTails | and I DO have USB Emulation on btw |
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| 02:05.28 | zham | Hey, guys! |
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| 02:06.21 | n0t | Hello zham. |
| 02:06.30 | zham | n0t: Hello |
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| 02:08.31 | AvatarA | when Iceweasel was crashing, offering in exchange a bug report window, it was fun |
| 02:08.58 | AvatarA | ...but now, just disappearing like a ghost, leaving no trace, no log, it's not fun anymore |
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| 03:05.03 | Brewster | so that bug with my clear windows apparently did not go away |
| 03:06.28 | Brewster | basically after a while new windows and menus like the right click menu don't show up all the way and you can only see an outline of them |
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| 03:06.55 | Brewster | I'll get a pastebin of my .xsession-errors if that will help |
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| 03:09.50 | Brewster | http://pastebin.com/gffHMFpL |
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| 03:10.32 | Brewster | no new errors appear when I open new windows so I'm not sure the problem would be found in there |
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| 04:01.17 | Lokathor | i can ssh into a debian machine, but i can't ping it. is this some default firewall setting? |
| 04:02.42 | fifi-v | hi all, I'm trying to reinstall postgresql (previously had both postgresql-9.3 and postgresql-9.4). So I've done `sudo aptitude remove` for all postgres packages, now when running `sudo aptitude install postgresql-9.4 postgresql-server-dev-9.4`, I got "The on-disk format of the PostgreSQL 9.4 data files has changed between beta2 and beta3..." |
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| 04:03.13 | fifi-v | but I don't care my old data, I'd like to clear everything and install 9.4, any suggestions? |
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| 04:22.23 | n0t | Lokathor: Is it behind any firewalls/routers? Did you setup any firewalls? I have no trouble pinging my debian machine. |
| 04:23.08 | Lokathor | nope, i've got three machines on a local network, the debian machine can ping the other two, but they can't ping it. |
| 04:23.29 | Lokathor | the windows machine can ssh into debian, the raspbian machine cannot ssh into debian, but debian can ssh into raspbian |
| 04:23.32 | Lokathor | it's all very confusing |
| 04:23.57 | Lokathor | nothing lost if it can't be solved, just an oddity i thought i'd ask about |
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| 04:24.46 | n0t | It sounds like you may be having trouble with DNS/IP resolution. check the IPs of all the machines and make sure nothing is wonky |
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| 04:25.26 | n0t | Or if its your local network I'd suggest using nmap to see if you can reach it/what ports are open |
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| 04:28.11 | n0t | fifi-v: try running "dpkg -l | grep postgres" |
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| 04:32.17 | n0t | fifi-v: that will tell you the packages you installed with postgres |
| 04:33.47 | n0t | after that you will want to run "sudo apt-get --purge remove packages-you-found-here". Where packages-you-found-here is replaced by the postgresql packages you want to uninstall. They should be seperated by spaces. |
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| 05:16.28 | Lady_Aleena | grumbles "dpkg didn't know? Darn it" |
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| 05:18.03 | Lady_Aleena | I thought dpkg knew everything. |
| 05:18.27 | no_gravity | Anybody using x over ssh? Are there any real world use cases? |
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| 05:23.58 | peterrooney | no_gravity: I use it when I want to run CPU-intense program on the big iron at home but see it on the laptop with me. |
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| 05:25.36 | no_gravity | peterrooney: interesting. its much faster then a vnc session? |
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| 05:27.25 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 05:30.04 | zerodrama | is it possible to move /lib to a separate partition? |
| 05:31.01 | zerodrama | every time i install a new kernel I waste 300 meg for the test and switch over |
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| 05:31.31 | zerodrama | also is debian doing the /usr merge like Fedora? |
| 05:31.37 | no_gravity | "for the test"? |
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| 05:32.58 | zerodrama | i always do a test boot with both old and new versions available |
| 05:33.10 | zerodrama | so I can restore the old |
| 05:33.20 | zerodrama | like say new kernel breaks wifi |
| 05:34.32 | no_gravity | so you clone your root partition and install the new kernel in one of them? |
| 05:35.00 | zerodrama | no - new kernels can use up 200 to 300 M |
| 05:35.33 | no_gravity | and the old one nether gets deleted? |
| 05:35.34 | zerodrama | so there's 300 M extra used by /lib in / |
| 05:36.06 | zerodrama | the kernel is small but all those modules lol |
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| 05:37.31 | no_gravity | hmm... started libre office over ssh and it's very slow. |
| 05:37.46 | zerodrama | i imagine there's issues because of /lib/firmware |
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| 05:37.52 | neetz_ | Hey does anyone have an idea about linux quota here ? |
| 05:38.35 | zerodrama | no_gravity: loading a massive app, yes it will be slow |
| 05:38.37 | neetz_ | I've a specific doubt , but just making sure if anyone has worked before :/ |
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| 05:39.02 | no_gravity | zerodrama: isnt the app running on the server? why does it matter? |
| 05:39.14 | zerodrama | it gets transfered |
| 05:39.24 | zerodrama | like transfering a large file |
| 05:39.36 | zerodrama | you need to use remote X |
| 05:40.07 | no_gravity | zerodrama: yes, but only what is on scren gets transfered. doesnt matter if a small app or a big one generates the output. |
| 05:40.08 | zerodrama | you're loading the app instead or receiving paint requests |
| 05:40.13 | zerodrama | no |
| 05:40.30 | zerodrama | the whole thing gets loaded over ssh |
| 05:40.37 | no_gravity | "thing"? |
| 05:40.39 | zerodrama | you're think of vnc style |
| 05:40.55 | zerodrama | the whole binary from the filesystem |
| 05:41.05 | no_gravity | i doubt that. any citations on that? |
| 05:41.20 | zerodrama | server -> ssh = like mounted drive |
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| 05:41.41 | zerodrama | server -> vnc = screen updates |
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| 05:41.58 | no_gravity | i think you have this wrong. we should find some info on that online. |
| 05:42.36 | zerodrama | the server binary runs locally over ssh |
| 05:42.52 | zerodrama | it runs remotely over vnc |
| 05:42.59 | no_gravity | then it would show up in "top" on the local machine. |
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| 05:43.04 | zerodrama | no |
| 05:43.14 | zerodrama | it would showup as ssh |
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| 05:43.43 | zerodrama | ssh does not know what a window or a mouse is |
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| 05:43.52 | zerodrama | only X does |
| 05:44.10 | zerodrama | you can run X over ssh tho |
| 05:44.24 | zerodrama | and X apps |
| 05:44.50 | zerodrama | you're confusing the polarity of the neutron flow |
| 05:45.01 | no_gravity | i think we can boil it down to this: you say the binary gets transferred to the client. i doubt that. |
| 05:45.18 | zerodrama | the binary gets streamed not copied |
| 05:45.43 | zerodrama | ssh cannot create windows only the binary can |
| 05:46.13 | zerodrama | ssh is the same as mounting a remote drive |
| 05:46.28 | no_gravity | no. now im sure you got this wrong. |
| 05:46.31 | neetz_ | I've experimented quota on linux users and it's working for me , this is the problem , I'm trying to implement quota on a shared folder with respect to a user , , so i don't know how should i go about this ! so what I did was as the soon as the shared folder got crreeated , I attached that directory to the llinux user using sudo chown -R wort /home/celestial/Downloads/cool , that attached the shared folder to the owner , but whe |
| 05:46.32 | neetz_ | it will still add without giving the quota error |
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| 05:48.44 | zerodrama | libreoffice is streaming to ram then executing locally |
| 05:49.10 | no_gravity | zerodrama: maybe you missed the "x over ssh" and confuse it with sshfs or something? |
| 05:49.11 | zerodrama | you have to configure X11 forwarding in ssh |
| 05:49.33 | zerodrama | that is different |
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| 05:49.57 | mutante | neetz_: is the shared folder on another computer? sounds like you might need the quota over there |
| 05:50.14 | zerodrama | then maybe SSH needs to be GPU accelerated |
| 05:50.51 | neetz_ | mutante: No it's on the same computer :) |
| 05:51.46 | zerodrama | no_gravity: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/speeding-up-ssh-x11-forwarding-with-unix-osx-linux-bsd/ <- try this |
| 05:52.30 | neetz_ | mutante: I've come close to finding a soluton on my own , what i'm doing is i'm assinging that shared folder to the user and it's fine , but if I add more files to the folder it doesnt give me a quota error even if it is excedding |
| 05:53.01 | no_gravity | cant you give him a partition? |
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| 05:54.04 | mutante | neetz_: might be that you have to add "usrquota" to the options in /etc/fstab where that file system is mounted |
| 05:54.28 | mutante | (to enable quota being available at all) |
| 05:54.37 | neetz_ | mutante: i have added that , it works for users |
| 05:54.45 | neetz_ | mutante: it doesn't work for shared folder |
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| 05:54.47 | no_gravity | mutante: you can use a file as a partition. that way the user could never exceed his limit. |
| 05:55.08 | neetz_ | mutante: or just a folder |
| 05:55.18 | no_gravity | neetz_: you can use a file as a partition. that way the user could never exceed his limit. |
| 05:55.42 | neetz_ | no_gravity: so you mean that folder as a partition ? |
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| 05:56.24 | fifi-v | n0t:thank you |
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| 05:57.39 | no_gravity | neetz_: not sure how to do it with a folder. with a file - lets say you make a 10gb file "user1". then you can turn that into a blockdevice with "losetup user1". then you can mount that to /myusers/user1/ with "mount /dev/loop0 /myusers/user1". maybe there is a more efficient way. this is just from the top of my head. |
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| 06:00.28 | no_gravity | wouldnt be surprised if there is a filesystem that can mount files directly. so you can skip the losetup step. |
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| 06:00.57 | zerodrama | isn't quota intended to avoid backflips like file as partition? |
| 06:01.21 | neetz_ | no_gravity: so if the count is set and when I try to mount a file over the quota limit , it shouldn't mount ? is that what you are saying |
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| 06:02.04 | no_gravity | neetz_: count? i was thinking you wanted to provide your users with a directory of a given size. not sure, maybe i missed your usecase. |
| 06:02.08 | neetz_ | quota* |
| 06:02.32 | neetz_ | quota** it was a typo |
| 06:03.02 | no_gravity | neetz_: i just showed you a way to create a directory with a given size that the user cannot exceed. |
| 06:03.15 | no_gravity | neetz_: i thought thats what you asked for. maybe its a misunderstanding. |
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| 06:04.23 | neetz_ | no_gravity: but whrere do you set the limit in your case |
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| 06:04.58 | no_gravity | neetz_: the size of the file. |
| 06:05.33 | no_gravity | neetz_: losetup makes the file a block device. so if the file is 10gb then its like a harddisk of 10gb. |
| 06:06.05 | neetz_ | no_gravity: oh , so no need of quota at all ? |
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| 06:06.30 | no_gravity | no |
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| 06:08.25 | neetz_ | no_gravity: thanks , can you just hold up ? I will write a pastebin showing you my exact problem , maybe you will understand my problem a lil better |
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| 06:08.31 | no_gravity | sure |
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| 06:13.12 | tralala | you could use mount directly, no need for losetup - mount -o loop(,offset=xxx) |
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| 06:18.19 | no_gravity | tralala: yeah, i expected that this is possible somehow. |
| 06:18.57 | no_gravity | it still creates the loop device as i understand it. |
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| 06:20.48 | no_gravity | yes. mount takes care of creating it then. nice. |
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| 06:23.43 | Patero-ng | hello I installed UrbanTerror on debian 8 with gnome and apparently I need shared library objects like libqtgui.so.4, libQtNetwork.so.4 and so on... how can I install them? what package contains them all? |
| 06:23.52 | neetz_ | no_gravity: you around ? |
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| 06:24.07 | no_gravity | neetz_: yo |
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| 06:24.22 | neetz_ | no_gravity: http://pastebin.com/ncGarKe5 , have a look at this |
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| 06:26.29 | no_gravity | neetz_: i dont get it |
| 06:26.48 | neetz_ | no_gravity: what part did you not understand ? |
| 06:27.36 | no_gravity | "So the use limit is increasted to 1.5mb" |
| 06:27.47 | no_gravity | what does that line mean? |
| 06:28.07 | neetz_ | no_gravity: sorry the usage I mean |
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| 06:28.33 | neetz_ | no_gravity: the first column is the usage , the second is soft limit and the 3rd column is hard limit |
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| 06:29.28 | no_gravity | in what units? |
| 06:29.38 | jenipapo | Hi all |
| 06:29.41 | no_gravity | ah bytes |
| 06:30.21 | no_gravity | neetz_: ok, as root, you added a 10mb file to the directory of a user that has a 5mb limit. |
| 06:30.33 | no_gravity | neetz_: what is the question now? |
| 06:31.01 | jenipapo | How to run the debian installer, after installation? |
| 06:31.08 | neetz_ | no_gravity: and then I assigned the file to the the 'newuser' , it should give a quota error right ? |
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| 06:31.58 | no_gravity | neetz_: at what point should it give the quota error? |
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| 06:32.21 | neetz_ | no_gravity: when I assign it to the newuser |
| 06:32.33 | neetz_ | no_gravity: because it exceeds the quota limit |
| 06:32.39 | no_gravity | neetz_: the chown command should fail? |
| 06:33.34 | neetz_ | no_gravity: Lol I think it should :/ sounds naive I know , but it then violates the quota |
| 06:34.25 | no_gravity | neetz_: i dont know. i never used quotas. no idea how they work. |
| 06:35.06 | neetz_ | no_gravity: is there anything else from Linux I can do such that quota recognises it , looks like chown didn't work |
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| 06:35.36 | no_gravity | neetz_: what do you want to achieve? |
| 06:36.10 | neetz_ | no_gravity: nothing -.- |
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| 06:36.24 | neetz_ | no_gravity: sorry |
| 06:36.26 | neetz_ | sorry |
| 06:36.29 | neetz_ | no_gravity: mistake |
| 06:36.48 | neetz_ | no_gravity: I'm working on a NAS project |
| 06:36.59 | neetz_ | no_gravity: so basically setting quota for linux users |
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| 06:38.23 | no_gravity | and you want to prevent root from fiddling with other users directories? |
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| 06:39.37 | stormbytes | can someone eyeball my interfaces file? I'm trying to configure my wifi dongle. It works when the ethernet is plugged in but as soon as I pull the cable the wifi connection dies -- https://gist.github.com/stormbytes/d0954a5febe5fb303b04 |
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| 06:40.01 | stormbytes | this is on debian (latest kernel) Beaglebone Black |
| 06:40.19 | no_gravity | im out of here for now. cu guys. |
| 06:40.33 | __john_doe__ | hello, I want to upgrade debian wheezy to jessie, do I need to do anything to prevent losing ssh connection? |
| 06:40.44 | neetz_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:40.48 | __john_doe__ | I didn't find anything specific on google, so just wanted to make sure |
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| 06:44.45 | jelly | __john_doe__: if you're not using NetworkManager to get network interfaces running, things ought to be fine |
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| 06:45.39 | __john_doe__ | jelly: u mean GUI, right? |
| 06:46.33 | jelly | not necessarily |
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| 06:46.54 | __john_doe__ | jelly: I don't have /etc/init.d/network-manager |
| 06:47.00 | n0t | stormbytes: why did you turn off loopback address? |
| 06:47.05 | __john_doe__ | I have networking |
| 06:47.14 | stormbytes | n0t cuz i have no idea what i'm doing |
| 06:48.23 | jelly | __john_doe__: good, and is your network config in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 06:48.48 | __john_doe__ | jelly: yes |
| 06:48.49 | __john_doe__ | so run it? |
| 06:49.03 | jelly | you ought to be fine then |
| 06:49.11 | __john_doe__ | jelly: thx a lot |
| 06:49.30 | jelly | dpkg, tell __john_doe__ about wheezy->jessie |
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| 06:51.44 | n0t | stormbytes: i'm not sure what you're doing in that config. you set a static IP and then tell DHCP to give you an address? |
| 06:52.01 | n0t | Also there is no need to disable your loopback interface |
| 06:52.10 | stormbytes | n0t i'm playing cut-and-paste games because i have no idea what i'm looking at |
| 06:52.24 | stormbytes | should i clear out that iface default inet dhcp line? |
| 06:52.51 | n0t | How about you go read this page: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
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| 06:53.15 | n0t | Rather than guess, educate yourself. |
| 06:53.21 | stormbytes | :) |
| 06:53.33 | stormbytes | sounds like a plan |
| 06:53.57 | n0t | Let me know if you are still confused once you have throughly read that page. |
| 06:54.13 | stormbytes | ok |
| 06:54.56 | gyaresu | Tough love but great advice :) |
| 06:55.23 | stormbytes | i don't mind reading⦠its that a lot of this stuff is basically greek |
| 06:56.18 | n0t | We all start there. Mess with it enough and you'll understand :) |
| 06:56.32 | gyaresu | stormbytes Every time you hit an acronym (DNS, DHCP, CIDR) just do a search online for it and all the pieces will start to make more sense. It's not magic, just a LOT of info :) |
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| 06:56.59 | stormbytes | n0t here's a example -- it tells you to "add interfaces you want brought up at boot time to the 'auto' line' |
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| 06:57.23 | stormbytes | i mean, I'd love to ask whoever wrote that who it was they were writing this for |
| 06:57.50 | stormbytes | someone that doesn't understand very much about the interfaces file isn't going to gain much by reading that |
| 06:58.23 | gyaresu | stormbytes `auto eth0` means 'start the interface eth0 at startup' |
| 06:59.01 | gyaresu | Otherwise it stays 'down' or in an inactive state (not connected). |
| 06:59.27 | stormbytes | gotcha |
| 06:59.41 | stormbytes | i'm looking at the interfaces file at the same time |
| 07:00.11 | n0t | Maybe I pointed you in the wrong direction to start. |
| 07:00.25 | n0t | Lets start from the man page! |
| 07:00.42 | stormbytes | already there ;) |
| 07:00.43 | n0t | Try "man interfaces" and see if that makes a little more sense to you |
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| 07:02.11 | stormbytes | can you allow-hotplug on ethernet? |
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| 07:02.41 | n0t | yes. the line is usually "allow-hotplug eth0" |
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| 07:03.19 | n0t | Do you need a static address or do you have a router that can assign DHCP? |
| 07:03.23 | stormbytes | if that line is out, would it b0rk the wifi interfaces (usb dongle) if the ethernet cable was unplugged? |
| 07:03.39 | stormbytes | I'm going with a static ip -- so far i can't see anything 'wrong' with my configuration |
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| 07:05.57 | n0t | I can. Try removing the line that says "iface default inet dhcp" |
| 07:06.10 | n0t | You're assigning yourself a static address and still telling it you go get you an address |
| 07:06.40 | stormbytes | yes i got that out --- |
| 07:07.23 | n0t | Are you sure your wireless is wlan1? and not wlan0? |
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| 07:08.14 | stormbytes | i didn't see wlan0 in the iwconfig output |
| 07:08.16 | stormbytes | or ifconfig |
| 07:08.22 | stormbytes | so i used wlan1 |
| 07:08.28 | stormbytes | https://gist.github.com/stormbytes/1edeb1b0bdd17902a3d7 |
| 07:08.33 | stormbytes | that's my wpa_supplicant file |
| 07:08.41 | stormbytes | (with actual passwords replaced:( |
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| 07:09.28 | stormbytes | there's the ouput of both commands: |
| 07:09.28 | stormbytes | https://gist.github.com/stormbytes/322e53477cd7987da671 |
| 07:10.02 | stormbytes | like i said, the wifi connects and works perfectly (on the specified static ip) |
| 07:10.14 | stormbytes | but it only works if the ethernet cable is plugged in |
| 07:10.16 | stormbytes | weird. |
| 07:10.48 | stormbytes | when i do a network scan i see both interfaces connected to the wifi router (one hard wired, one wireless client) |
| 07:10.53 | stormbytes | with separate IPs |
| 07:10.55 | n0t | According to that output, its not working over your wlan |
| 07:11.05 | n0t | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:11.13 | stormbytes | sorry, meaning? |
| 07:11.26 | n0t | RX bytes: 0 TX bytes: 0 |
| 07:11.33 | n0t | txqueuelength:1000 |
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| 07:11.47 | n0t | meaning there is 1000 bytes waiting for a connection to get sent over but it has no connection |
| 07:11.59 | stormbytes | hm |
| 07:11.59 | stormbytes | over my head |
| 07:12.12 | stormbytes | does that mean the dongle is bad? i just got it today |
| 07:12.23 | n0t | No, I just don't think you have it setup correctly yet :) |
| 07:12.42 | stormbytes | that's really weird.. i set this up on the respberry pi in 5 minutes |
| 07:12.53 | stormbytes | it should be exactly the same thing ... |
| 07:12.55 | stormbytes | oh wait no⦠ugh |
| 07:12.59 | stormbytes | i ran some 'reset script' |
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| 07:13.08 | stormbytes | ugh |
| 07:13.35 | trewas | n0t: txqueuelength does not mean that, all my working connections say the same value |
| 07:13.42 | stormbytes | wifi reset service |
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| 07:13.47 | JyZyXEL | why does "ifup" try to mount cifs shares off /etc/fstab automatically? |
| 07:14.02 | JyZyXEL | i've specified "noauto" |
| 07:14.23 | n0t | trewas: then i made a wrong assumption about what that meant :o |
| 07:14.29 | n0t | time for some reading... |
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| 07:15.07 | stormbytes | i just killed that wifi reset service |
| 07:15.15 | stormbytes | that's the only thing i did differently here then on the rip |
| 07:15.18 | stormbytes | rpi |
| 07:15.19 | trewas | n0t: probably how many packets can be on the queue |
| 07:16.01 | n0t | trewas: you are correct. it's just a buffer size |
| 07:16.13 | stormbytes | ugh |
| 07:16.15 | stormbytes | no dice |
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| 07:21.20 | n0t | Okay lets try this |
| 07:21.31 | n0t | Instead of wpa-roam lets try wpa-conf |
| 07:21.40 | stormbytes | ok |
| 07:21.44 | n0t | I've written a interfaces file for you. |
| 07:21.47 | n0t | One sec |
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| 07:22.14 | n0t | http://pastebin.com/NPsfJ3wW |
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| 07:26.18 | n0t | I also just found a source that states if you are using wpa-roam you cannot use a static address, you need to have it set to manual |
| 07:26.50 | stormbytes | so not static? |
| 07:27.01 | stormbytes | i have it set to static on the raspberry pi, works fine |
| 07:27.11 | stormbytes | i changed it to wpa-conf |
| 07:27.35 | stormbytes | but now i hit this issue -- https://gist.github.com/stormbytes/7a869933b8c94cd94983 |
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| 07:28.45 | n0t | Try again. |
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| 07:29.09 | n0t | sudo ifup wlan1 |
| 07:29.22 | stormbytes | nevermind, you fixed it |
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| 07:29.46 | stormbytes | i removed that wifi-reset script, changed roam=>conf |
| 07:29.52 | stormbytes | rebooted, and boom, all is good |
| 07:30.07 | stormbytes | dongle now even has a shiny new blue LED blinking ;) |
| 07:30.43 | n0t | WOO! congrats |
| 07:30.57 | stormbytes | :) |
| 07:31.02 | stormbytes | hang on.. i'm gonna post a pic |
| 07:31.17 | n0t | make sure to back up your interfaces files so you have a copy to refer to |
| 07:31.26 | n0t | if you need to change it in the future |
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| 07:32.10 | stormbytes | http://www.dumpt.com/img/viewer.php?file=ekzzwyau0x3bk8qtw68u.jpg |
| 07:32.13 | stormbytes | :) |
| 07:32.16 | stormbytes | yep, will do |
| 07:32.22 | stormbytes | see there it is, blinking LED and everything |
| 07:33.04 | stormbytes | thanks n0t! & everyoen |
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| 07:34.44 | n0t | What board is that? It looks rather spiffy compared to my pi |
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| 07:49.06 | unborn | o/ have question guys.. shall I go with jessie 64bit or with jessie i368? purpose is to run skype etc.. |
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| 07:53.54 | __john_doe__ | okay I had php5 installed from http://packages.dotdeb.org wheezy-php55 all, I upgraded to jessie and now I get this error: https://bpaste.net/show/5c7542d724f7 |
| 07:54.05 | __john_doe__ | do I need to remove php and than install it again? |
| 07:54.29 | __john_doe__ | or maybe remove this file from apt archive? |
| 07:54.57 | jelly | unborn: skype can work on both. |
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| 07:55.56 | placko | how do I find out if I an running 32bit or 64bit system? |
| 07:56.18 | unborn | jelly i know.. its matter of the install you know.. thanks.. I would like to ask someone as well what is live cicle in jessie? for how many years without installing next distro to it? |
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| 07:56.49 | marbar | hello everyone! |
| 07:56.51 | marbar | how's it going? |
| 07:56.54 | n0t | placko: what operatying system are you running now? |
| 07:57.13 | marbar | does anyone here use the openbox window manager? |
| 07:57.23 | placko | n0t: Debian/Jessie |
| 07:57.34 | unborn | i guess its 3 years only |
| 07:57.53 | jelly | unborn: +2 extra is LTS subproject survives |
| 07:57.56 | jelly | if* |
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| 07:58.05 | marbar | does anyone know how to get terminal transparency working with debian and openbox? |
| 07:58.18 | n0t | placko try "uname -aip" |
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| 07:59.00 | n0t | That command may be redudant, the man page is a little unclear but it should work non the less |
| 07:59.06 | placko | n0t: it says: |
| 07:59.08 | placko | Linux gazda 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1 (2015-05-24) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 07:59.25 | placko | I hope it is 64bit then |
| 07:59.37 | n0t | Yup you're running 64 bit! |
| 07:59.55 | shodan` | Can inetd ftpd be configured for verbose logging? We are currently having an issue where a file is touched but no data is stored sometimes and we are trying to debug it. |
| 08:01.35 | placko | n0t: which is more relevant to decide 3.16.0-4-amd64 or x86_64 |
| 08:01.39 | unborn | jelly, I was hoping so it will be a bit more.. thank you. |
| 08:02.03 | x86_64 | sighs |
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| 08:02.21 | n0t | placko: they mean the same thing. they are just different names for the same |
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| 08:06.26 | __john_doe__ | any idea how to solve this: https://bpaste.net/show/8fadf7a68b1c, when I run apt-get install -f I get tons of unmet dependencies |
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| 08:09.32 | rselon | any recommendations on a light image viewer? |
| 08:10.01 | break3r | irfanview |
| 08:10.03 | bazhang | ,v eog |
| 08:10.04 | judd | Package: eog on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.30.2-1; wheezy: 3.4.2-1+build1; jessie: 3.14.1-1; stretch: 3.16.2-1; sid: 3.16.2-1 |
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| 08:10.59 | Stummi | I am happy with sxiv here |
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| 08:11.21 | n0t | __john_doe__: do you have another package manager open? |
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| 08:11.51 | AndreeeCZ | Hi. Do you know of a very simple debian-based live cd, that would be small, console-only, booting only to RAM and be built on a 3.x kernel? |
| 08:11.56 | rselon | bazhang: does eog depends on half of the other gnome packages, like they usually do? |
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| 08:12.06 | rselon | Stummi: huh sxiv looks cool ill check it out |
| 08:12.17 | __john_doe__ | n0t: it's a server, I have aptitude as well and I ran aptitude install -f |
| 08:12.32 | bazhang | no idea rselon its not light though |
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| 08:12.37 | __john_doe__ | I accepted proposed solution as I just want to fix my package manager |
| 08:12.40 | Stummi | Andreas33, http://live.debian.net/ |
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| 08:13.37 | AndreeeCZ | Stummi, was this to me? |
| 08:13.51 | __john_doe__ | n0t: aptitude resolved it :) |
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| 08:13.59 | Stummi | AndreeeCZ, ah, yes, sorry :) |
| 08:14.37 | AndreeeCZ | Stummi, i tried the standard debian live, but it's really huge (and therefore not suitable for my use-case), or am i missing something? |
| 08:14.55 | AndreeeCZ | all of them have a DE ? |
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| 08:15.18 | n0t | AndreeeCZ: Did you try debian server? I thought that was the light version... |
| 08:16.08 | n0t | __john_doe__: aptitude probably just had a lock on it for the time being. can't run two package managers at the same time. glad it got solved. |
| 08:16.24 | Savemech | guys how i could copy files from dying hard drive? i dont wanna mess with ddrescue, there is other options? |
| 08:16.25 | AndreeeCZ | n0t, i don't see a live server version |
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| 08:18.03 | Unknown-User | Savemech: ddrescue? Is it a distro with DD for back-up/clone HD? |
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| 08:18.37 | Unknown-User | If yes, why don't you run a LiveMedia and run dd? |
| 08:18.56 | n0t | AndreeeCZ: Ah I guess there isn't one then. Check this out : http://mklivecd.sourceforge.net/ |
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| 08:19.16 | n0t | They have a live server image there |
| 08:19.31 | AndreeeCZ | n0t, will try, thank you |
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| 08:20.19 | n0t | Let me rephrase: They have the tools for YOU to make a live server image there. Shouldn't be hard though. |
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| 08:21.13 | AndreeeCZ | n0t, is this only a creator? (in which case i cant use it as i dont have a debian-based system) |
| 08:21.48 | n0t | "mklivecd creates a Live-CD from the Debian GNU/Linux distribution. You need |
| 08:21.55 | n0t | access to the Debian distribution to create the Live-CD image." |
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| 08:22.08 | n0t | So that won't work.. hmm lets see what else there is |
| 08:22.43 | AndreeeCZ | n0t, i found this site: http://livecdlist.com/ |
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| 08:23.29 | AndreeeCZ | which is nice, but hard to tell which of them are based on debian (i need that because i just want to run a vendor-delivered hw diag app that only runs on deb) |
| 08:23.39 | n0t | AndreeeCZ: have you looked at damnsmalllinux? |
| 08:23.53 | AndreeeCZ | n0t, yes, kernel too old (2.4) |
| 08:24.02 | Unknown-User | 2.4??? |
| 08:24.21 | AndreeeCZ | yeah.. |
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| 08:24.30 | n0t | You sure? They have 3.x and 4.x kernels from what I see |
| 08:24.45 | AndreeeCZ | i even asked to konfirm on irc |
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| 08:25.00 | AndreeeCZ | let me check again |
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| 08:25.28 | n0t | Ah nevermind that is THEIR version not the kernel version, way to be confusing guys lol |
| 08:25.37 | AndreeeCZ | right |
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| 08:26.28 | Unknown-User | The most recent version is a release candidate from 09/2012 (4.11.rc2). |
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| 08:27.58 | jelly | AndreeeCZ: grml.org has a decent sysadmin/rescue sytle liveusb/livecd image, based on debian testing |
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| 08:28.39 | AndreeeCZ | jelly, will try that! |
| 08:28.55 | AndreeeCZ | does live system always mean that it boots into ram only? |
| 08:29.07 | AndreeeCZ | (the hard drives are maybe faulty on that system) |
| 08:29.58 | jelly | AndreeeCZ: yes, but it does some detection of existing filesystems by default. That can be disabled via boot options. |
| 08:31.14 | n0t | Poppylinux has a 3.14.20 kernel version. The whole thing is 200 MB. |
| 08:31.23 | n0t | PuppyLinux* |
| 08:31.44 | AndreeeCZ | is it debian-based?, n0t |
| 08:31.54 | n0t | It's ubuntu based so yes |
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| 08:32.09 | AndreeeCZ | ok then, that will be my second shot, thank you very much |
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| 08:33.49 | OerHeks | puppy ubuntu based ? no, check again .. |
| 08:36.00 | n0t | it uses ubunutu packages and is comptatible with ubuntu packages... is not that enough for his needs? |
| 08:36.27 | AndreeeCZ | good enough |
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| 08:37.33 | Patero-ng | hello I installed UrbanTerror on debian 8 with gnome and apparently I need shared library objects like libqtgui.so.4, libQtNetwork.so.4 and so on... how can I install them? what package contains them all? |
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| 08:38.01 | n0t | AndreeeCZ: If that fails you, you can search on distrowatch by distribution category "live-medium" and based on "debian" for other live CDs that should have more up to date kernels |
| 08:38.02 | bazhang | ,v urbanterror |
| 08:38.03 | judd | No package named 'urbanterror' was found in amd64. |
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| 08:38.58 | BrazenBraden | busy building a docker image based off the "buildpack-deps:jessie" image. need to set up some cronjobs but found that crontab was not installed so installed it with apt-get install cron. now when trying to install my cronjobs file into crontab, I get a "bad command" error. what is wrong with my cronjobs file? https://gist.github.com/brazenbraden/04e107931d51715751e1 |
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| 08:40.36 | Guest68575 | is there other fix for Intel Dual Band Wireless 7265 dropping connection than disableing 802.11N? |
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| 08:42.57 | nodus | Guest68575: not that i have found. it is quite disapointing. |
| 08:44.17 | Guest68575 | nodus: yeah, after all these months... |
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| 08:46.35 | ChrisH | BrazenBraden: to me it looks like there are too may coloums... man 5 crontab shows only 5 time coloums not 6 as you try to use |
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| 08:54.41 | gr8 | what is the best way to install ffmpeg on debian jessie? Is there a version in some repository that I could use? |
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| 08:56.20 | shodan` | gr8: was it removed from the repo? |
| 08:56.27 | Patero-ng | I wonder how can iceweasel can be using 40% of my cpu with just a youtube video when my cpu is 3.4gz 4 cores? is debian using all cores of my cpu? how can I check trhat |
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| 08:57.03 | gr8 | shodan`: it seems it is neither in contrib nor main |
| 08:57.35 | shodan` | Odd |
| 08:57.43 | BrazenBraden | ChrisH, good catch. Think my eyes have gone a little skrewy. will fix and give it another try. |
| 08:57.46 | nodus | Patero-ng: probably webm, its not super efficent |
| 08:58.49 | ChrisH | BrazenBraden: that the Trees/Woods issue :) |
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| 09:02.15 | SCDias | in the worst option you can always make it with git clone https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg.git but it can take some time to do it |
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| 09:04.02 | SCDias | info here: https://github.com/FFmpeg/FFmpeg |
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| 09:13.27 | Orac1e | Hello guys |
| 09:13.43 | Orac1e | any1 here? |
| 09:15.14 | ChrisH | !ask |
| 09:15.15 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:18.33 | gr8 | ok I am installing ffmpeg from wheezy repos, seems to work |
| 09:20.44 | yei | hola |
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| 09:24.01 | Patero-ng | yei: amigo |
| 09:24.15 | yei | Hola Patero-ng |
| 09:25.41 | Patero-ng | que tal que haces |
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| 09:28.46 | yei | volver de vacaciones y currar :D |
| 09:29.26 | Patero-ng | aya a donde fuiste de paseo a un bosque de galicia? |
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| 09:38.10 | SynrGy | yei, Patero-ng: |
| 09:38.13 | SynrGy | !es-social |
| 09:38.13 | dpkg | Este canal es de ayuda con ordenadores en Ingles. Si no necesitas ayuda con tu ordenador por favor ingresa al canal social de #debian-es con /join #debian-es-cachondeo. Tus amigos probablemente ya esten ahi. |
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| 09:57.43 | unreal1999 | doesn anyone know here someone with the name DexterF ? |
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| 09:59.16 | svetlana | Yes, nickserv does. '/msg nickserv info DexterF', they were last seen 11 hours ago, and '/msg memoserv help send' to leave them a message they would read next time they log in. |
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| 10:03.08 | marsupapu | Hello. I have a dependency problem with libjpeg8 in Jessie. i found some discussions that said that it's been replaced by libjpeg62-turbo, but that doesn't help much as the package I'm trying to install requires libjpeg8. Any workarounds? |
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| 10:03.54 | themill | dpkg: tell marsupapu about bat |
| 10:04.36 | marsupapu | Bat? A flying mouse :D Sorry, I didn't understand. |
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| 10:11.54 | ezra-s | marsupapu: if you have a non distribution .deb package which has such dependency and libjpeg62-turbo provides those exact libraries the program will need you could modify the deb package dependencies to adjust to the new debian package with the help of dpkg-deb |
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| 10:14.16 | Guest62247 | Hello guys! I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to graphics cards and I wanted to ask for your help : I decided to run Debian Testing (the non-free image). First of, my system runs on an ATI-card -- i assume there's no harm in purging all the Nvidia-stuff that came installed by default, right? |
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| 10:19.12 | serotonintuna | anyone alive |
| 10:19.14 | serotonintuna | to halp |
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| 10:23.05 | ezra-s | serotonintuna: just ask |
| 10:23.12 | latenite | Hi folks, is there a samba 4.2 version in debian 7 / wheezy? Or will I have to upgrade to debian 8 ? |
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| 10:23.27 | ezra-s | latenite , you can check yourself at packages.debian.org |
| 10:23.45 | serotonintuna | ezra-s https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3hfgoh/preparing_files_for_usb_memory_stick_booting/ |
| 10:23.51 | ezra-s | apt-cache show or search will tell you relevant info about package names |
| 10:24.03 | rozie | latenite: there are backports too... |
| 10:24.04 | serotonintuna | debian manual says |
| 10:24.08 | serotonintuna | i need linux to install linux |
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| 10:24.21 | themill | latenite: samba 4.2 isn't anywhere in debian at all |
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| 10:24.32 | serotonintuna | which i think |
| 10:24.33 | ezra-s | serotonintuna: that's false, you just need a cdrom or usb key to burn an iso image there |
| 10:24.36 | serotonintuna | is a tad ridiculous |
| 10:24.43 | serotonintuna | yeah but |
| 10:24.50 | serotonintuna | that whole page on preparing it for boot in hte manual |
| 10:24.54 | serotonintuna | goes over some ridiculous stuff |
| 10:24.58 | serotonintuna | like partitioning the usb drive into two parts |
| 10:25.06 | serotonintuna | and putting in the loader seperately or something |
| 10:25.09 | serotonintuna | it seems overly complicated |
| 10:25.16 | ezra-s | serotonintuna: just get an iso burning tool and use the appropiate medium |
| 10:25.44 | themill | serotonintuna: it also says you can just copy the image onto a CD or USB device (and please stop hitting enter every 5 words, it makes it much harder to follow you) |
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| 10:27.00 | themill | The release notes also tell you how to create the installer using other operating systems. |
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| 10:27.23 | latenite | themill, how do I use packages.debian.org to search for the available versions in wheezy? |
| 10:27.41 | themill | latenite: by using the search box |
| 10:27.59 | serotonintuna_ | laptop died |
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| 10:28.05 | serotonintuna_ | err |
| 10:28.14 | serotonintuna_ | so youre saying |
| 10:28.18 | serotonintuna_ | if youre still here |
| 10:28.22 | themill | !enter |
| 10:28.22 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 10:28.43 | serotonintuna_ | i can just use win32 disk imager to put netinst.iso on my usb drive |
| 10:28.55 | serotonintuna_ | without going through all the partitioning hybrid crap in the manual? |
| 10:28.57 | themill | serotonintuna_: yes, that's what the release notes say |
| 10:29.05 | serotonintuna_ | eh? wheres it say that? |
| 10:29.13 | themill | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 |
| 10:29.26 | latenite | themill, so jessie has samba version 2.4? Thats impossible |
| 10:29.26 | latenite | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/samba |
| 10:29.43 | latenite | I don't know how to interpret the results |
| 10:29.50 | themill | latenite: 4.1.14 |
| 10:29.50 | serotonintuna_ | themill |
| 10:29.56 | serotonintuna_ | are you sure we're looking at the same thing |
| 10:30.09 | themill | dpkg: tell latenite about version epoch |
| 10:30.22 | serotonintuna_ | the very first sentence is "To prepare the USB stick, you will need a system where GNU/Linux is already running and where USB is supported." |
| 10:30.30 | latenite | I missread 2:4.1.17 for 2.4 |
| 10:30.30 | serotonintuna_ | and it just gets worse after that |
| 10:30.41 | latenite | what is the 2: used for here? |
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| 10:32.50 | latenite | If I am on wheezy can I do an upgrade of the system so I can have samba4? |
| 10:33.35 | bzed | latenite: you could either upgrade to jessie or install samba4 vom wheezy-backports |
| 10:33.42 | latenite | themill, thanks for the epoch text. I dont get why an epoch is used in that case since samba versions went up only. from 3 to 4 |
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| 10:34.10 | latenite | bzed, his there a howto site on how to use backports? |
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| 10:35.50 | bzed | latenite: try to google for it? |
| 10:35.56 | sgt-hagger | Hey guys. I want to install Debian. I want most the packages on offer but don't really want to install three disks. Is the network install a good option? |
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| 10:37.58 | bzed | sgt-hagger: if you have a useful internet connection at the place where you want to install debian - all you need is the network install iso image, either dumped on an usb stick or on a cd |
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| 10:38.09 | bzed | sgt-hagger: its well documented in the installer handbook |
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| 10:39.38 | sgt-hagger | ok thanks |
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| 10:42.54 | amitprakash | Hi, why are my fstab settings not being respected? http://pastebin.com/q4Ltx1ic |
| 10:43.49 | latenite | I tryed to install a backport package but I get this error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/63b43c74cd031e10dad1 |
| 10:43.51 | amitprakash | Specifically, trying to mount an xfs partition (md0) in a directory on another xfs mountpoint(md1) is leading to the mounted mount point being mounted recursively |
| 10:43.57 | latenite | what am I missing? |
| 10:44.04 | amitprakash | i.e. md1 mounts on subdir instead of md0 |
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| 10:53.56 | latenite | it sais |
| 10:53.56 | latenite | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:54.19 | latenite | but why is it not going to be installed? What is the cause? |
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| 10:56.30 | AndreeeCZ | is this correct: when installing debian, no writing to any disk happens until you actually format the partitions or install on existing ones. All is happening in ram. ? |
| 10:56.55 | TheNumb | yes |
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| 10:57.04 | julius_ | hi |
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| 10:57.31 | julius_ | ive got a default jessie install on a vps hoster, it is running in runlevel 5....isnt that kinda unusual for a terminal only system? |
| 10:59.00 | AndreeeCZ | TheNumb, so if i hard reboot a machine that hanged on the installer before, absolutely no harm can be done to any of the disk, since there is no I/O. ? |
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| 10:59.18 | AndreeeCZ | *before partitioning or actually installing |
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| 11:00.18 | TheNumb | AndreeeCZ: have you tried switching ttys? |
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| 11:00.39 | AndreeeCZ | TheNumb, yes, it hanged on this http://i.imgur.com/nHgCHyQ.png |
| 11:00.43 | AndreeeCZ | ~30mins |
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| 11:00.45 | AndreeeCZ | i gave up |
| 11:00.57 | Brigo | julius_, jessie uses systemd, the runlevel is meaningless |
| 11:01.30 | TheNumb | Brigo: unless it's an openvz "vps" and it uses sysvinit. |
| 11:01.52 | TheNumb | AndreeeCZ: is there a reason you chose oldstable instead of stable? |
| 11:02.19 | AndreeeCZ | TheNumb, yes, i need to install proxmox on top of it. Proxmox doesnt recommend running it on jessie. |
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| 11:02.27 | Brigo | TheNumb, maybe i join the channel too late, it is firts time i read you are using sytemd. Anyway, the default runlevel in debian is 3. |
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| 11:09.30 | julius_ | Brigo, thx...have to take a look at systemd |
| 11:09.53 | Brigo | julius_, yw :) |
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| 11:17.53 | amitprakash | Hi, why are my fstab settings not being respected? http://pastebin.com/q4Ltx1ic |
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| 11:26.41 | jelly | amitprakash: show the output of "blkid" and "cat /proc/mdstat"? |
| 11:28.28 | Patero-ng | Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the |
| 11:28.29 | Patero-ng | universe are pointed away from Earth? |
| 11:28.57 | Iridos | what is not being respected from the fstab settings? |
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| 11:30.34 | julius_ | great, i joined rabbitcvs google's group and now im not allowed to post... is it possible that the list administrator needs to change my status? |
| 11:30.49 | julius_ | what would be the normal behavior for a "linux" related group on google |
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| 11:31.38 | Iridos | I don't really see what that has to do with debian... |
| 11:31.55 | jelly | julius_: there's no "normal", each community picks their own rules and some may requires admin approval |
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| 11:32.22 | julius_ | jelly, but there is something like admin approval so i probably just have to wait? |
| 11:32.27 | jelly | julius_: yes. |
| 11:32.53 | julius_ | Iridos, im so sorry...it has nothing todo with debian. are you paid to be here? |
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| 11:33.28 | julius_ | Iridos, im just aware that there are very intelligent people in this channel |
| 11:33.57 | jelly | julius_: this is a focused tech support venue, catering to tech issues in Debian. We're all volunteers but we still have rules about keeping on topic. |
| 11:34.11 | jelly | !offtopic |
| 11:34.11 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 11:35.13 | julius_ | yes yes i get it. |
| 11:35.36 | jelly | however, if a question can be answered with a single line sometimes it's worth getting it done with instead of pointing this fact out again and again |
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| 11:36.37 | julius_ | i could have installed the package from unstable and hoped for the best... |
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| 11:46.32 | steedp3 | I have a program I would like to run as a sevice, is there a standard way to do this without manually writing init scripts? |
| 11:47.10 | Thasan | after updating to jessie, tcp connection problems appeared, then installed munin to see stats and there is lots of drops |
| 11:47.28 | Thasan | monit eth0 errors: http://redstone.kotobaminers.org/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/if_err_eth0.html |
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| 11:48.24 | Thasan | before update server work fine, except some random connection losts, which wasnt major, but now using server is totaly impossible |
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| 11:49.09 | Thasan | totaly impossible for that purpose which is has made |
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| 11:50.13 | Thasan | I have no munin stats before update so I cant tell how that graph suposed to look like, so those drops may not be the main problem |
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| 11:51.15 | Thasan | but this is my best guess which causes connection losts |
| 11:52.00 | cyris212 | I'm aware of apt-cache/get/... and the aptitude frontend but since when can you install software like this "apt install xyz"? |
| 11:52.33 | julius_ | steedp3, evil hack would be to add it to /etc/rc.local and attach a & at the end |
| 11:52.34 | Iridos | cyris212, not in wheezy |
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| 11:53.09 | cyris212 | Iridos: so what should you use with jessie? |
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| 11:53.20 | Iridos | cyris212, are you sure that's not a local alias or so? first time I hear that |
| 11:54.03 | cyris212 | Iridos: I'm sure |
| 11:55.07 | cyris212 | looks like it's the same as apt-get etc. but just for very basic commands |
| 11:55.15 | Iridos | well, the bot doesn't know about it either |
| 11:55.17 | Iridos | dpkg, apt |
| 11:55.17 | dpkg | Advanced Packaging Tool (APT) is a package management system used by Debian and its derivatives. There is no apt program per se; APT is a C++ library of functions that are used by several command line programs for dealing with packages, notably apt-get, apt-cache, and aptitude. See also <aptitude> <apt-get>, <apt-cache>, <apt myths>. |
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| 11:56.42 | Iridos | heh, what apt myths |
| 11:56.46 | Iridos | dpkg, apt myths |
| 11:56.46 | dpkg | Myths about APT never seem to die, the principal one being you can't mix using different APT front-ends like apt-get and aptitude. This is false. If you need further convincing, see http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9 and http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/blog/entry/apt-system-diagram/ . See also <why aptitude> and <why not aptitude> for real reasons to choose one over the other. |
| 11:58.29 | cyris212 | haha awesome |
| 11:59.18 | Iridos | cyris212, I guess if you /msg dpkg why aptitude and /msg dpkg why not aptitude ... that should answer what to choose for your case |
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| 12:00.30 | Iridos | I prefer apt-get... it doesn't try to do so much sophisticated stuff that then can go wrong so splendidly ... but I do try using aptitude if apt-get cannot resolve a dependency conflict |
| 12:00.55 | Iridos | with simple programs, simple things go wrong... with sophisticated programs, complicated things go wrong :P |
| 12:01.39 | cyris212 | I'm gonna use plain apt from now on :-) |
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| 12:03.15 | Iridos | not sure if that is intended for end-users |
| 12:03.28 | cyris212 | have a look at the man page "man apt" |
| 12:03.44 | Iridos | I'm on wheezy |
| 12:03.46 | cyris212 | apt-get is exactly the same except that have couple more options |
| 12:03.57 | cyris212 | I forgot sorry :-) |
| 12:04.18 | Iridos | I want to upgrade for nearly a year now, but keep lacking the time |
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| 12:04.52 | cyris212 | I was distro hopping for the last couple of months and now I found the love of my life in debian jessie ;-) |
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| 12:14.54 | kalib | Hello guys, how could I downgrade php 5.6.9 to php 5.3.10? |
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| 12:22.28 | pehlert | Hey folks! Is there something like "DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive" for "dpkg -i"? Despite setting that env var, it still asks whether I want to replace an existing configuration file |
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| 12:27.38 | c0fe | morning |
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| 12:29.19 | Patero-ng | hello I need help I need to configure my keyboard with sudo |
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| 12:40.33 | c0fe | Patero-ng: you got a specialized keyboard? |
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| 12:42.11 | knivsta | hi |
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| 12:43.24 | G66K | hello everyone |
| 12:43.55 | G66K | im using debian wheezy there is a port opened 12345/netbus i m not sure what is it for may anyone explain to me |
| 12:44.02 | knivsta | Anyone here using RT8169 Ethernet? |
| 12:44.20 | knivsta | It is dropping connection a lot even after firmware installation |
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| 12:46.21 | abrotman | knivsta: anything in the logs? have you rebooted since adding the firmare? |
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| 12:51.00 | knivsta | abrotman, i did |
| 12:51.04 | knivsta | no use |
| 12:51.17 | knivsta | it worked fine in trisquel |
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| 12:52.07 | abrotman | That's a different distro, not much help |
| 12:52.18 | abrotman | knivsta: anything in the logs? What is 'uname -r'? |
| 12:52.51 | knivsta | 3.16.0-4 |
| 12:52.57 | knivsta | amd64 |
| 12:53.32 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 12:53.33 | judd | Available kernel versions are: sid: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); stretch: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt9-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3); experimental: 4.2.0-rc6-686-pae (4.2~rc6-1~exp1) |
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| 12:53.50 | abrotman | guess jess hasn't gotten a backport yet because stretch is still on 3.x |
| 12:53.55 | abrotman | jessie |
| 12:53.55 | Kazhgal | loves to be Debian :P |
| 12:54.00 | Thasan | how can I reboot to older kernel over ssh. I have 2 kernels listed to grub |
| 12:54.57 | knivsta | abrotman, so 4 for jessie backport? |
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| 12:57.27 | rozie | knivsta: you probably used other driver on trisquel |
| 12:57.39 | Patero-ng | cause creating another user account makes no difference in that key still unrecognizded |
| 12:58.51 | at0m|c | Thasan: change GRUB_DEFAULT= in /etc/default/grub then re-run grub-install |
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| 12:59.50 | maziar | what is this error on nginx " http request count is zero while closing request, client: 37.63.153.235, server: 0.0.0.0:80 " |
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| 12:59.59 | Kazhgal | at0m|c + Thasan: I recommend 'update-grub' |
| 13:00.04 | knivsta | rozie, LiveCD? |
| 13:00.11 | knivsta | should I try LiveCD then? |
| 13:00.21 | knivsta | and see what is being used and recognized? |
| 13:01.02 | rozie | you don't need no livecd for this. just lsmod on both systems |
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| 13:02.24 | Thasan | still 3.16.0 kernel :S |
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| 13:02.34 | knivsta | rozie, and? |
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| 13:03.24 | rozie | and compare which module is used |
| 13:03.33 | knivsta | r8169 |
| 13:03.47 | rozie | on both systems? |
| 13:03.51 | knivsta | yep |
| 13:03.59 | knivsta | even on lapto hehe |
| 13:04.07 | knivsta | i think its most common |
| 13:04.14 | rozie | so probably you have installed non-free firmware on Debian |
| 13:04.21 | knivsta | no |
| 13:04.31 | knivsta | i dont use non-free |
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| 13:05.41 | knivsta | rozie, r8169 is libre n trisquel is libre os fully |
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| 13:08.08 | Thasan | at0m|c, Kazhgal: diffirent kernels are listed to submenu menuentries, changing GRUB_DEFAULT booted to first one http://puu.sh/jFJu5/e8ed960ae9.png |
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| 13:10.25 | yinee | Chinese |
| 13:10.39 | yinee | æ æ³é¾æ¥å°telegram |
| 13:10.52 | SpeedyG | !chinese |
| 13:10.52 | dpkg | å¦ææ¨æ³è¦ä»¥ä¸æå¾å° Debian ç¸éçåå©ï¼è«å å
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| 13:11.49 | yinee | Thanks |
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| 13:20.53 | hstl | Hi all! I want to install "jacksum file browser integration" but it says that it cant find "kate" in case konqueror and "xfwrite" in case if thunar. I am a newbie, dont know what thise things are, but i searched in synaptic and found "xfe" and "kate" (file manager and text editor), installed them, but actions didnt make any influence. How to fix it? Jacksum - is a file verification tool (console type), jacksum file browser integration allows to use it from file manag |
| 13:20.58 | hstl | Thank you |
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| 13:27.44 | Thasan | finaly found solution |
| 13:27.52 | Thasan | grub-reboot "Advanced options for Debian GNU/Linux>Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-4-amd64" |
| 13:27.57 | Thasan | that works |
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| 13:29.07 | Iridos | hs... |
| 13:29.10 | Iridos | oh well |
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| 13:36.19 | dserodio | Our (squid) proxy has been getting lots of 503 errors from security.debian.org and http.debian.org when running apt-get update, is there anything I can do about it? |
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| 13:37.35 | knivsta | rozie, What do you think? I think it is the cable problem, because it does work without the firmware too |
| 13:37.53 | phix | dserodio: drink more coffee then debug it, submit a patch |
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| 13:43.09 | colo-work | dserodio, configure another mirror, or wait it out. |
| 13:43.27 | colo-work | 503 is supposed to be a temporary error, after all. |
| 13:43.45 | themill | (there is no http.debian.org) |
| 13:44.03 | Kazhgal | YOU ARE ASSHOLES |
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| 13:46.12 | rozie | knivsta: cable should be OS independent ;) |
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| 13:50.28 | knivsta | rozie, hehe :) |
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| 13:50.50 | knivsta | rozie, Do you use Gnome? I love Debian so much just bought a new laptop from Dell it came with Ubuntu and using it with Debian now its awesome |
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| 13:59.31 | dserodio | colo-work, is there some command to configure a mirror, or should I use sed? |
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| 14:00.02 | colo-work | dserodio, you'll hvae to use an editor. sed is fine, if you're comfortable with that. |
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| 14:01.55 | rozie | knivsta: LXDE |
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| 14:05.06 | dserodio | colo-work, this is for automating Docker container building, and the base image is based on a Debian image |
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| 14:10.33 | knivsta | don't you think LXDE just sucks and nothing else? |
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| 14:12.17 | melody | Hi, come and try our new chat rooms.... www.greekchat.eu |
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| 14:22.22 | MrmacHD | hi |
| 14:22.35 | MrmacHD | what is the default root password on âLinux beaglebone 4.1.5-ti-r10 #1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Aug 13 20:24:29 UTC 2015 armv7l GNU/Linuxâ? |
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| 14:24.18 | phix | MrmacHD: password |
| 14:24.24 | MrmacHD | oh |
| 14:24.34 | MrmacHD | nope |
| 14:24.45 | MrmacHD | thought I might have tried that. |
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| 14:24.52 | MrmacHD | its jessie 8.1 on arm |
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| 14:24.57 | MrmacHD | lxqt |
| 14:25.00 | phix | MrmacHD: is it debian/ |
| 14:25.03 | MrmacHD | nope |
| 14:25.08 | clownshoe | i'm using a preseed file on a laptop, and everything works fine except the netcfg essid portion, i can highlight the wireless network to be connected to, but cannot hit enter to select it, is there a way to do this? |
| 14:25.09 | phix | so why are you asking here for/ |
| 14:25.27 | MrmacHD | its #debian, where else should I ask ? |
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| 14:25.46 | phix | MrmacHD: /dev/null? |
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| 14:25.53 | AndreeeCZ | trying to live-boot jessie on a headless server: http://i.imgur.com/8p06r7p.png |
| 14:25.58 | rozie | MrmacHD: your distribution is not Debian. you ask on #debian. why? |
| 14:26.00 | MrmacHD | it is debian, but password debian is not |
| 14:26.02 | AndreeeCZ | why does it fiddle with the hard drives?? |
| 14:26.18 | MrmacHD | debian 8.1 jessie compiled for arm |
| 14:26.19 | phix | MrmacHD: boot it up on another computer and change the password |
| 14:26.21 | rozie | MrmacHD: Debian with 4.1.5-ti-r10? No way. |
| 14:26.30 | MrmacHD | oh |
| 14:26.39 | MrmacHD | so what is it then? texas instruments? |
| 14:26.46 | phix | MrmacHD: unless you have encrypted it and forgotten the key |
| 14:26.48 | MrmacHD | its a snapshot |
| 14:26.51 | phix | MrmacHD: I dontk now |
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| 14:27.01 | phix | how should i know what you set the password to? |
| 14:27.04 | rozie | it's some debian based distribution. they should provide instruction (including password) |
| 14:27.07 | MrmacHD | no, its brand new, running on an embedded system, beaglebone black. |
| 14:27.19 | MrmacHD | yes I wish they would have. |
| 14:27.32 | rozie | MrmacHD: is your system on SD card? |
| 14:27.46 | themill | MrmacHD: is sudo installed? does it work? |
| 14:27.53 | MrmacHD | yes |
| 14:27.54 | MrmacHD | no |
| 14:28.09 | MrmacHD | no its flashed on eMMC and sudo is there, but I cannot use it. |
| 14:28.13 | themill | You need to ask the people that made the image then |
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| 14:28.21 | MrmacHD | i understand |
| 14:28.48 | MrmacHD | ti people are prolly next to sun microsystems people, nowhere to be found. |
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| 14:31.17 | MrmacHD | ok cheers anyways |
| 14:31.19 | MrmacHD | bye |
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| 14:31.59 | rozie | http://beagleboard.org/getting-started |
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| 14:32.09 | rozie | oh, 2late |
| 14:32.16 | sogeking99 | Hi guys, I am running Debian on a VM. I am only getting 4:3 resolutions it seems though. The guys at qumu told me I will need to edit Debian's settings to allow for my resolution. He said it most definitely will support any resolution the host machine does. |
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| 14:34.03 | Thasan | with kernel 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u1 x86_64 network seems to work fine |
| 14:34.22 | Thasan | but with 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 (2015-08-04) x86_64 getting drops and tcp timeouts |
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| 14:35.08 | Thasan | using Debian 8.1 |
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| 14:39.14 | ChrisH | sogeking99: install the correspdoning vm-guest tools. |
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| 14:39.14 | sogeking99 | ChrisH, How can I do that for qemu? |
| 14:39.15 | phix | sogeking99: redhat has lots of stuffz |
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| 14:40.09 | abrotman | knivsta: sorry, had meetings .. |
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| 14:40.22 | abrotman | knivsta: no backport yet, but you can try to compile it yourself (if no one answered you) |
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| 14:40.33 | sogeking99 | ChrisH, Do I install these vm-guest tools on the guest OS (debian) or the host (fedora 22)? |
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| 14:40.52 | Wulf | Hi |
| 14:40.56 | steedp3 | I am trying to acheive something very simple, start my binary on boot like a service, I refuse to write hundreds of lines of shell script for this, there MUST be somethign obvious I am missing here |
| 14:40.59 | phix | sogeking99: the guest part of the name suggests where you should install it |
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| 14:41.04 | steedp3 | what is the easiest way to do this? |
| 14:41.07 | knivsta | abrotman, I think it is a faulty cable but it is working without firmware as well |
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| 14:41.14 | Wulf | What exactly is /var/lib/urandom/random-seed for and why is the file more than a year old? |
| 14:41.29 | sogeking99 | phix, Yes but on Virtual Box it is not the case. |
| 14:41.43 | phix | sogeking99: you using virtualbox? |
| 14:41.47 | ChrisH | sogeking99: on the debian guest |
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| 14:42.07 | sogeking99 | No, qemu but I have never used it before. |
| 14:42.16 | steedp3 | Wulf: it is so the system entropy pool is no empty when jsut booted |
| 14:42.18 | sogeking99 | Virtual box did not work on Fedora though. |
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| 14:42.40 | Patero-ng | hello I tried the guide on https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard however it didn't work, apparently the file in /etc/default/keyboard has nothing to do with my left alt key being wrongly recognized as level 3 shift |
| 14:42.44 | Patero-ng | is stupid |
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| 14:43.32 | Wulf | steedp3: yeah, but why do I load the same entropy on every boot? |
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| 14:44.10 | sogeking99 | ChrisH, Any idea what package I need to install? |
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| 14:45.01 | knivsta | there is only one problem with Debian |
| 14:45.15 | knivsta | it don't include most libre drivers/firmwares like Trisquel does |
| 14:45.19 | knivsta | so that one problem for sure |
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| 14:45.56 | Patero-ng | anyone here knows what a trololo is |
| 14:46.04 | hstl | Hi, folks! I am trying to install jacksum-file-browser-integration. Jacksum is a file verification tool (console), browser integration allows to use it from file manager. But when i start this. .sh script it tells me that he didnt find "kate" and "xfwrite" (in case of konqueror and thunar). I dunno what are these things, but i searched in synaptic and found kate(text editor) and xfe(file manager). But it didnt help. What i am suppose to do? |
| 14:46.11 | MattTheRogue | @Patero-ng you mean like the vocalese |
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| 14:46.26 | Patero-ng | is that a musical note? |
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| 14:46.43 | Patero-ng | MattTheRogue: is that like a musical note |
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| 14:47.45 | MattTheRogue | There's a really famous internet meme of someone singing something which is only "Trolo-lo-lo etc," which is a vocalese, a type of singing / warmup |
| 14:47.46 | MattTheRogue | not at all related to technology, but it was my first though. |
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| 14:48.10 | Patero-ng | MattTheRogue: maybe taylor swift sings trololo |
