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| 00:17.54 | slikts | I want to upgrade from wheezy to jessie, so I changed the sources.list to say jessie, ran update and upgrade, but I get a big list of packages "held back", and dist-upgrade gets stuck with an error |
| 00:18.11 | slikts | namely, udev : Breaks: plymouth (< 0.9.0-7) but 0.8.5.1-5 is to be installed |
| 00:18.17 | slikts | what do |
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| 00:18.46 | slikts | I tried autoclean/clean/autoremove but that did nothing |
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| 00:19.42 | abrotman | dpkg: tell slikts about wheezy->jessie |
| 00:20.00 | slikts | dpkg: tell me pls |
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| 00:20.40 | intelikey | from a console howto communicate with an xorg user ? i can send messages via "xmessage" but how can i open a message box that they can type back into ? |
| 00:21.00 | Grega_ | Hi, guys! I'm getting errors like http://pastebin.com/BZdKKim3 . Have no idea what it means, but the computer normally just stops responding. Any ideas? |
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| 00:21.52 | Grega_ | I assume something is wrong eather with RAM od HDD..? |
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| 00:24.02 | slikts | abrotman: well, that link doesn't really tell me much new |
| 00:24.34 | slikts | I just tried apt-get remove plymouth and apparently dist-upgrade is now proceeding |
| 00:24.36 | markybob | slikts, it's kind of hard when you just say "error" and not what the error is |
| 00:24.49 | slikts | markybob: I pasted the error |
| 00:25.05 | slikts | the relevant part anyway |
| 00:25.29 | slikts | anyway, removing plymouth resolved it |
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| 00:34.25 | nikk_ | Is it possible to adjust color saturation/contrast on my laptop monitor (thinkpad E550, Intel HD Graphics 5500)? |
| 00:34.41 | slikts | the upgrade seems to be finished, but I can't reboot; it says "Failed to talk to init daemon." |
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| 00:42.30 | mrdeb | hi |
| 00:42.56 | mrdeb | when u install debian, why can u only install desktop like mate or gnome when u do live install over net, but now the cd1 offline, even though it has the mate on cd |
| 00:43.05 | mrdeb | it doesnt give optino |
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| 00:47.09 | themill | mrdeb_endoftime: mate is not on CD1 |
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| 00:55.05 | mrdeb_endoftime | themill: which cd has mate on it or any desktop |
| 00:55.58 | themill | dpkg: tell mrdeb_endoftime about various cd1 |
| 00:56.17 | mrdeb_endoftime | which one |
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| 00:57.06 | mrdeb_endoftime | no thats not it |
| 00:57.17 | mrdeb_endoftime | even if you dl cd 1 for xfce, it wont install xfce |
| 00:57.20 | mrdeb_endoftime | thats that problem |
| 00:57.25 | mrdeb_endoftime | it will only go up to X |
| 00:57.38 | themill | please stop using "it" |
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| 00:59.23 | woh3 | Hi all, question: I am buying an android "TV Box", Cenovo Mini PC TV Box 64 Bit Quad Core Intel Z3735F, and I want to install Debian on it, I was told in here that I could run the ordinary iso, but this unit does not have a hard drive, will I still be able to use ordinary Debian or do I need debian arm64? |
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| 01:00.46 | aedinius | woh3: That's not arm |
| 01:00.58 | aedinius | woh3: so it wouldn't be the arm64 iso |
| 01:00.59 | themill | woh3: arm64 is no more or less ordinary debian than any other released port -- but I doubt you want arm-anything on that box |
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| 01:05.57 | ctmjr | woh3: look's like that is an intel atom so the amd64 iso will work |
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| 01:06.50 | jetscreamer | what do you do to use a dvd image as an installation source.. apt-cdrom -d? or would that just specify the mount point for a physical cd? |
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| 01:09.16 | somiaj | jetscreamer: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#CD-ROM |
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| 01:19.04 | jetscreamer | yeah, seems like a few hoops too many though, afaict. |
| 01:19.35 | jetscreamer | says obsolete documentation, must be why it looks like it did a few years ago... :) |
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| 01:20.11 | jetscreamer | easier just to burn the 4 dvd |
| 01:20.15 | jetscreamer | :/ |
| 01:20.48 | slikts | upgrading to jessie on raspberry pi takes literally ages |
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| 01:20.58 | slikts | empires rise and fall while it happens |
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| 01:21.44 | jetscreamer | it hints that i can use file:// though |
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| 01:23.49 | jetscreamer | this link of that page, i mean http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html |
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| 01:38.47 | slikts | my favorite thing to do in a new server is apt-get apache* remove |
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| 01:43.46 | jetscreamer | why would you allow apache to be installed in the first place |
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| 01:44.38 | jetscreamer | and what, no --purge? |
| 01:44.52 | markybob | slikts, and you'd get E: invalid operation apache* |
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| 01:48.15 | slikts | jetscreamer: yeah, forgot purge |
| 01:48.57 | slikts | and yeah wrong order |
| 01:49.16 | slikts | typing commands in chat apparently doesn't trigger muscle memory |
| 01:49.24 | slikts | the body knows it's not for real |
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| 02:01.39 | head8debian | somiaj: SO i set it to "LOCAL", but what else do i have to do? |
| 02:02.17 | head8debian | Or anyone else have any ideas? |
| 02:03.11 | illy | what seems to be the problem head8debian |
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| 02:04.25 | head8debian | I installed windows as a dual boot, and it messed up my debian install's time. |
| 02:04.43 | jetscreamer | you installed windows 2nd? |
| 02:04.50 | head8debian | Yes. |
| 02:04.57 | head8debian | Had a fun time with that today... |
| 02:05.07 | head8debian | NOT! |
| 02:05.08 | head8debian | ;) |
| 02:05.24 | illy | do you have grub? |
| 02:05.26 | jetscreamer | windows first works better |
| 02:05.28 | head8debian | Yes. |
| 02:05.32 | head8debian | So i heard. |
| 02:05.36 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 02:05.42 | head8debian | I had to fix grub, but other wise yes it do. |
| 02:05.50 | illy | so the problem is with accesing debian windows is working? :P |
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| 02:06.19 | head8debian | What? No, the time in debian is off. |
| 02:06.29 | illy | oh, set time then |
| 02:06.38 | jetscreamer | set to utc instead of local? |
| 02:06.56 | head8debian | I jsut set debian from UTC to local. |
| 02:07.02 | head8debian | just* |
| 02:07.08 | head8debian | But the time is still off. |
| 02:07.16 | illy | !google debian set time |
| 02:07.33 | illy | wierd |
| 02:07.42 | illy | one hour? :)) |
| 02:08.18 | head8debian | 4 hours off for some reason... |
| 02:08.22 | head8debian | Yet im in EST. |
| 02:08.45 | illy | stop feeding ur drogs to the kernel :P |
| 02:09.04 | jetscreamer | !set time |
| 02:09.05 | dpkg | To set the time on Debian systems, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install <ntp> to have their clock set automatically on reboot and slewed to match time servers. Also verify the system's UTC setting and set the correct time zone; ask me about <utc>, <timezone>. |
| 02:09.23 | jetscreamer | !botsnack |
| 02:09.23 | dpkg | thanks, jetscreamer |
| 02:09.38 | illy | !hardware clock |
| 02:09.53 | head8debian | thanks. |
| 02:10.24 | jetscreamer | dang, i forgot all the cool dpkg commands |
| 02:10.31 | jetscreamer | !penixstrike |
| 02:10.36 | jetscreamer | gah |
| 02:10.43 | head8debian | Yay! |
| 02:10.43 | jetscreamer | !penixstrike jetscreamer |
| 02:10.43 | dpkg | A towering Penix descends from the heavens, knocking jetscreamer to the ground and leaving a large wet spot. |
| 02:10.50 | head8debian | Its fixed!~! |
| 02:10.56 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
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| 02:11.05 | head8debian | I just installed ntp. |
| 02:11.10 | head8debian | Handy trick. ;) |
| 02:11.38 | head8debian | Ah, so much easier on the eyes now that redshift is working. :-) |
| 02:11.53 | head8debian | Anyways, thank you. |
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| 02:12.19 | vickycq | dpkg --get-selection | grep hold |
| 02:12.20 | dpkg | vickycq: I give up, what is it? |
| 02:13.03 | jetscreamer | !hold |
| 02:13.03 | dpkg | hold is a status flag that tells the package manager to not automatically upgrade a package. To hold a package 'echo $package hold|dpkg --set-selections' or 'aptitude hold $package'. Note that "aptitude hold" is ignored by other package managers (i.e. Update Manager, synaptic, apt-get) and aptitude won't necessarily use holds set with dpkg; see Debian bug #137771. See also <hold list>, <unhold>. |
| 02:14.14 | head8debian | Arg! I just upgraded to the latest 304xx drivers for debian and this stinking nvidia logo shows up when i boot now... |
| 02:14.31 | jetscreamer | you can set nologo in xorg.conf iirc |
| 02:14.51 | jetscreamer | or no splash.. i forget. but it's settable. |
| 02:15.40 | head8debian | Its ok, just took me by suprise. |
| 02:15.55 | head8debian | I thought my boot looked awfull enough as it was. :p |
| 02:15.57 | jetscreamer | https://www.google.com/search?q=disable+nvidia+splash+xorg.conf&gws_rd=ssl |
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| 02:18.55 | jetscreamer | is non-free on the dvd's? it is right? |
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| 02:23.45 | crunge | GRRR... I finally get a working config for ldap over SSL with a local CA and now that same config doesn't work on the ldap server itself >:| |
| 02:26.14 | crunge | Bah, nevermind... update-ca-certificates -> nslcd restart |
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| 02:28.26 | head8debian | jetscreamer: Thanks. |
| 02:29.58 | bazhang | ,v gksu |
| 02:29.59 | judd | Package: gksu on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.0.2-5; wheezy: 2.0.2-6; sid: 2.0.2-9; jessie: 2.0.2-9; stretch: 2.0.2-9 |
| 02:30.02 | Atm0spher1c | Is the default 400mb for tmp partition enough? |
| 02:30.21 | Atm0spher1c | I'm installing proprietary nvidia drivers. I get a few errors, one being that tmp directory ran out of space. |
| 02:30.28 | bazhang | default? |
| 02:30.51 | bazhang | are you creating a seperate /temp ? |
| 02:30.59 | bazhang | tmp |
| 02:32.18 | Atm0spher1c | separate partitions on guided install allocates 400mb to tmp |
| 02:34.56 | bazhang | does it create a sep /var and /boot as well |
| 02:35.27 | Atm0spher1c | root home swap var tmp |
| 02:35.55 | Atm0spher1c | im using lvm, I just dont know how much I should add to tmp for this |
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| 02:36.12 | Atm0spher1c | i might just guess |
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| 02:38.22 | bazhang | guided lvm |
| 02:38.44 | shay_shay | when will we get guided btrfs |
| 02:38.49 | shay_shay | not that I need it |
| 02:38.50 | bazhang | I missed that lvm bit |
| 02:39.03 | shay_shay | but it would be nice for my friends |
| 02:39.24 | bazhang | avoid btffs /boot iirc |
| 02:39.29 | bazhang | and btrfs |
| 02:39.53 | shay_shay | if you recall correctly? how long ago is this recollection from |
| 02:40.04 | shay_shay | I've been doing it for years |
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| 02:42.57 | bazhang | since I last distro hopped, so three or four |
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| 02:43.59 | bazhang | yet I have seen people who still see ext4 as unsafe or experimental |
| 02:44.14 | bazhang | and dont trust ntfs-3g |
| 02:46.28 | shay_shay | on wheezy it was smart to use a bpo kernel on Jessie it's stable with the stock kernel. it depends on your definition of stable like you pointed out but some distros are already using it as default filesystem |
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| 02:48.39 | bazhang | sure |
| 02:49.13 | bazhang | I was not trying to impose my old knowledge/experience, apologies if it came across that way |
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| 02:52.25 | shay_shay | I like stabilized software for the most part, I don't like dealing with unexpected catastrophes. but when I switched my NAS from ZFS btrfs seems like the clear choice for raid 10 on Debian ... and one by one I converted all my desktops for giggles. no problems after a few years |
| 02:52.56 | bazhang | nice |
| 02:52.57 | shay_shay | s/seems/seemed |
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| 02:53.32 | jetscreamer | ext3 is da bom |
| 02:53.52 | jetscreamer | (not really) |
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| 02:59.05 | jetscreamer | reiser ftw! |
| 02:59.15 | jetscreamer | or was that rieser |
| 03:00.33 | shay_shay | I forgot already |
| 03:00.44 | slikts | I don't get it, I have samba-common-bin, but there's no sambapasswd |
| 03:01.20 | slikts | wtf am I supposed to use instead |
| 03:01.31 | slikts | pdbedit? |
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| 03:02.13 | markybob | slikts, it's smbpasswd |
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| 03:02.49 | mze1 | hi |
| 03:04.39 | slikts | markybob: derp |
| 03:04.43 | slikts | it's late |
| 03:04.56 | slikts | pdbedit worked, though |
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| 03:11.11 | woh3 | ctmjr, thanks |
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| 03:18.51 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 03:18.54 | tite12345 | What does this mean? |
| 03:19.16 | tite12345 | http://codepad.org/W0HTJyQH |
| 03:19.35 | tite12345 | What does the `103.245.222.223` and the following like so mean? |
| 03:19.53 | tite12345 | I got those messages via wge |
| 03:19.55 | tite12345 | wget* |
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| 03:21.02 | markybob | tite12345, it's the ip address that the domain resolves to... |
| 03:21.15 | markybob | tite12345, what about the rest is confusing? |
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| 03:25.07 | linwiz | I'm Trying to run a command when a USB drive is inserted, but I'm not sure what part is not working. It is supposed to start playing music from the USB when it's inserted. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 03:32.34 | linwiz | The command works if run manually, so That part shouldn't be the issue. unless its some permission error |
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| 03:37.14 | tmh1999 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:39.48 | jetscreamer | so... installed the meta package of fps games, noticed it was a 5 gig d/l and decided to use the dvd set i have instead. added them w/apt-cdrom, success. some get the .debs from dvd, but not all? does apt remember where it was downloading from before, and still use that? i cancelled the d/l then added the dvds. |
| 03:40.21 | jetscreamer | now it still reports 5 hrs for download |
| 03:41.36 | jetscreamer | and doesn't seem to be lying |
| 03:42.22 | jmcnaught | jetscreamer: apt-get caches packages, so the packages it has already downloaded won't be downloaded again if you cancel (which is only safe to do while it is still in the downloading phase) |
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| 03:43.33 | jmcnaught | jetscreamer: you can use "apt-cache policy" on a package to see available versions and which is the candidate for installation |
| 03:44.29 | jetscreamer | yeah, only during d/l. when i originally cancelled the d/l, it was 'probably' in the middle of this 151mb package it's currently d/l'ing even though i 'assume' it's on the dvd |
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| 03:45.20 | jetscreamer | no, still 4 hours, different packages being d/l'd |
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| 03:45.59 | jetscreamer | &48min |
| 03:46.14 | jmcnaught | jetscreamer: if you put your /etc/apt/sources.list on http://paste.debian.net/ then people here can peer review it for you |
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| 03:48.57 | Abbott | I'm not sure exactly how this works but I'm trying to rename mp3's with their japanese names and whenever I try to paste into PuTTY I just get spaces. I tried copying over SMB as well but the files show up with ???? instead of the symbols |
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| 03:49.21 | Abbott | I think it has to do with ascii vs utf8 but i wouldn't know how to go about adding the ability to use these symbols on my machine |
| 03:50.02 | jetscreamer | well sure, but there's no problem with it afaict https://paste.debian.net/309647/ |
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| 03:50.36 | jetscreamer | i wanna say dpkg-reconfigure locales but i forget, Abbott |
| 03:51.07 | jetscreamer | might have been console-common (in the before times) |
| 03:51.28 | jmcnaught | jetscreamer: thanks, can you maybe show us the output of "apt-cache policy package" where package is one that you think should be on the DVD, but it is downloading from a mirror instead? |
| 03:51.53 | jmcnaught | Abbott: have you configured putty to use utf-8? |
| 03:52.36 | Abbott | jmcnaught: I wouldn't know |
| 03:54.10 | Abbott | under window > translation > remote character set, I have UTF8 selected, so i think so |
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| 03:55.02 | jetscreamer | 500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie/main amd64 Packages |
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| 03:56.08 | jmcnaught | Abbott: on the debian system what does "echo $LANG" say? |
| 03:56.47 | jmcnaught | jetscreamer: it would list the DVD if it were available from the DVD |
| 03:57.14 | Abbott | jmcnaught: it comes back blank |
| 03:57.44 | jetscreamer | so am i wrong to assume that the dvd set contains all the packages? guess i should look. |
| 03:58.07 | jetscreamer | i have 1,2,3 and the update one |
| 03:58.52 | jmcnaught | Abbott: what's in /etc/default/locale ? |
| 03:59.56 | Abbott | LANG="en_US.UTF-8" |
| 04:00.35 | jetscreamer | oh |
| 04:01.46 | jmcnaught | Abbott: that's what $LANG should be then, i don't know why it doesn't get set with Putty |
| 04:01.50 | jetscreamer | why is http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current/amd64/list-dvd/ reporting there are 13 dvd's but only 3 available for d/l? |
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| 04:06.17 | markybob | jetscreamer, http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.1.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/ |
| 04:07.47 | markybob | you certainly don't need all that stuff, though |
| 04:09.27 | jetscreamer | nah, just wanted it available offline. not that much though. |
| 04:09.55 | zer0-x | hi, is there any ways to get AMD proprietary driver working on Debian 8? I need it to work with VMWare player and I doubt if open-source driver is functional for that. |
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| 04:10.47 | jetscreamer | uh yeah but isn't radeon fully functional? i forget |
| 04:10.58 | markybob | !fglrx |
| 04:10.58 | dpkg | fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop of Debian 8 "Jessie" due to lack of EGL support (ref. §5.11 <jessie release notes>), use the <radeon> driver instead. |
| 04:11.12 | markybob | i wouldn't do it |
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| 04:12.06 | jetscreamer | won't mention only installing the nvidia driver from non-free fixed the truly borked out to the max fonts.. as usual. |
| 04:12.08 | dimitry7 | is it possible to downgrade from Jessie to wheezy, I've changed repos and did apt-get upgrade && dist-upgrade but yield no downgradable packages |
| 04:12.17 | dimitry7 | and there is no downgrade option for atpget |
| 04:12.20 | jetscreamer | !downgrade |
| 04:12.21 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 04:12.50 | zer0-x | Thanks, how is the performance of radeon driver versus AMD fglrx, does it matter much? |
| 04:12.59 | dimitry7 | jetscreamer, oh god, reinstalling is the only way... all right |
| 04:13.01 | dimitry7 | thank you man!! |
| 04:13.32 | jetscreamer | iirc the radeon driver is like fully functional, they gave up the code or something. other ppl will know |
| 04:13.57 | jetscreamer | i bought an amd once. returned it. |
| 04:14.09 | jetscreamer | ati/amd |
| 04:14.16 | Abbott | jmcnaught: if $LANG is showing up blank then it's probably something wrong with KiTTY then, right? |
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| 04:27.45 | Abbott | If I run "export LANG=en_US.UTF-8" then the filenames show up correctly |
| 04:28.26 | dimitry7 | How can I support Debian financially? |
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| 04:29.07 | markybob | dimitry7, https://www.debian.org/donations |
| 04:29.24 | dimitry7 | markovh, right! thankee |
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| 04:33.20 | jetscreamer | there was always a problem with $LANG (and/or those other two that go along with it) being set proplerly |
| 04:33.31 | jetscreamer | err properly |
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| 04:44.11 | NiLon | bad connection? |
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| 05:34.04 | Atm0spher1c | pulseaudio cpu usage is way too high. at 10% running while running pianobar. and If I pause pianobar it's hovering at 4% |
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| 05:58.53 | Chocolate_Chip | I want to make update alternatives x-www-browser to a executable in /opt |
| 05:58.57 | Chocolate_Chip | How do I do that |
| 06:00.59 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, want a gui? galternatives. really simple |
| 06:01.06 | Chocolate_Chip | ok |
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| 06:03.11 | ryouma | Atm0spher1c: you can purge pulseaudio |
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| 06:04.51 | Chocolate_Chip | Damn. Still not working right. I guess it's the program itself |
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| 06:06.50 | Chocolate_Chip | i should bug report |
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| 06:08.31 | CQ | would you guys register and host a domain with the same company or different companies? https://www.nutsandboltsmedia.com/why-you-shouldnt-register-domains-with-your-web-host/ has one set of arguments for keeping them separate... not sure how valid the security argument is: if the company with the registration is hacked, you have a problem anyway... |
| 06:09.14 | crunge | CQ: Sounds really dumb. |
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| 06:12.35 | CQ | crunge: what, the article or the concept of having both at the same company? :) |
| 06:12.53 | crunge | CQ: the article, by the synopsis you gave. |
| 06:13.46 | CQ | crunge: well, the valid argument he makes is that if you want to move your webhost, you don't have to move the domain |
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| 06:16.23 | crunge | CQ: An attacker that can compromise the hosting company can just backdoor your site as needed. Hijacking your domain is much more effort. If they're going to hijack your domain they're going to hold it for ransom. |
| 06:17.30 | crunge | Unless your site is valuable or high profile, they aren't going to care about you. They'll be interested in stealing payment information. |
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| 06:19.18 | CQ | true... |
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| 06:22.48 | crunge | CQ: you can ask more pointed questions in ##security if you like. Roughly though security is 1) Identify what you need to protect 2) Identify the threat to those things 3) Identify what resources they can bring to bear |
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| 06:32.53 | CQ | crunge: thanks |
| 06:33.02 | hid3 | Hello everyone. What does the last field in /etc/fstab mean? It's some kind of number |
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| 06:36.56 | Saigut_ | is there anyone using enlightenment? |
| 06:37.47 | Saigut_ | I have a little problem |
| 06:38.16 | crunge | hid3: man fstab |
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| 06:40.55 | hid3 | crunge: it says the values can be 0, 1 or 2. Now if I want to specify particular check sequence, can I go over 2? E.g. 3, 4, 5, etc..? |
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| 06:45.24 | crunge | hid3: On wheezy, the manpage explains exactly what values are valid and which filesystems get which values. |
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| 07:13.17 | Filystyn | hey |
| 07:13.36 | Filystyn | Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209) |
| 07:13.43 | Filystyn | i tried google but it did not help |
| 07:13.55 | Filystyn | what to do! |
| 07:15.39 | Filystyn | HEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLP ME |
| 07:15.42 | Filystyn | ;-) |
| 07:15.51 | Filystyn | i need help people!!!!!! |
| 07:17.35 | Amun_Ra | and patience |
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| 07:18.02 | Filystyn | noeeee help me people i had this problem from yesterday. |
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| 07:18.07 | Filystyn | SSo much waiting |
| 07:18.10 | Filystyn | so much! |
| 07:18.18 | Amun_Ra | #define much |
| 07:18.56 | Filystyn | #define much 1d |
| 07:19.44 | Amun_Ra | enough for me |
| 07:19.48 | Filystyn | people i need to fix it!!! halp me! |
| 07:20.17 | Amun_Ra | teleports away |
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| 07:26.49 | Filystyn | people need asistance. |
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| 07:41.38 | phibonacci | Hello, I'm trying to figure how to add an init.d service.`update-rc.d cassandra defaults` creates the symlink in /etc/rc2.d but the service does not appear in `service --status-all` and `service cassandra` tells me the service does not exist. |
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| 07:44.52 | Filystyn | ANYONE |
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| 07:47.36 | phibonacci | And... chmod +x. Morning facepalm. |
| 07:47.48 | phibonacci | Have a good day. |
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| 08:07.30 | drprune | @Filystyn anyone recently joining has no idea what you are bleating about |
| 08:08.07 | Filystyn | they can ask |
| 08:08.28 | dimitry7 | Actually I have a question |
| 08:09.40 | themill | !ask |
| 08:09.40 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:09.48 | dimitry7 | is there something better than rsnapshot for backups? |
| 08:10.06 | themill | dimitry7: there are lots of things -- it depends on your requirements |
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| 08:10.23 | dimitry7 | themill, actually I just backup configurations |
| 08:10.27 | dimitry7 | and important files |
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| 08:10.58 | themill | well "better than" is going to depend on what your criteria are |
| 08:11.02 | dimitry7 | databases are dumped and *tar.gzed and transferred |
| 08:11.42 | dimitry7 | amm, this works fine for now |
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| 08:13.57 | Amun_Ra | "they can ask" it's a nice one :P |
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| 08:18.43 | dimitry7 | !downgrade |
| 08:18.44 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 08:18.48 | dimitry7 | !networking |
| 08:18.49 | dpkg | For basic networking, «man interfaces» and see http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . For further information, see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/254 and http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05 . See also <interfaces>, <wifi>, <wireless connection managers>. |
| 08:18.59 | dimitry7 | !wpa |
| 08:18.59 | dpkg | Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) is a wireless encryption standard. A WPA supplicant for Debian systems is in the wpasupplicant package, read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure (especially "Troubleshooting" for association to hidden SSIDs). Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", it is possible to install Debian over a WPA-protected network. https://wiki.debian.org/WPA https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 08:19.07 | themill | dimitry7: please /msg dpkg keyword |
| 08:19.18 | dimitry7 | themill, oh, ok |
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| 08:30.32 | netsca | !testing |
| 08:30.32 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <stretch>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <jessie->stretch> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a very bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical! |
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| 08:30.53 | netsca | !sid |
| 08:30.53 | dpkg | hmm... sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 08:31.07 | netsca | !stable |
| 08:31.07 | dpkg | [stable] The status of a Debian release when no packages will be added, new versions introduced and changes will only fix security issues and critical bugs. Packages can be removed in rare circumstances. The current stable version of Debian is Jessie (8.1); ask me about <releases>. Security bugs are fixed in stable by backporting the fix to the stable version (ask me about <security backports>). https://wiki.debian.org/DebianStable |
| 08:31.32 | netsca | !backports |
| 08:31.32 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 08:31.57 | netsca | !backport caveat |
| 08:31.57 | dpkg | Remember that in installing backports, you will be using an unusual configuration of packages that has not been tested as thoroughly as Debian stable and that newer packages have both newer features and newer bugs. Ask me about <version chasing>. Also note that you can't rely on backports to be patched quickly if vulnerabilities are discovered. |
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| 08:33.25 | netsca | !kernel |
| 08:33.29 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.2-rc8, stable 4.1: 4.1.6, longterm 3.18: 3.18.20, longterm 3.14: 3.14.51, longterm 3.12: 3.12.47, longterm 3.10: 3.10.87, longterm 3.4: 3.4.108, longterm 3.2: 3.2.71, longterm 2.6.32: 2.6.32.67, linux-next: next-20150828 |
| 08:33.53 | netsca | !linux |
| 08:33.53 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, linux is closed |
| 08:34.02 | themill | netsca: that's enough, I think.... |
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| 08:35.37 | FI_OpwK | GM, I have a question. |
| 08:36.12 | FI_OpwK | !admin |
| 08:36.12 | dpkg | well, admin is like a omnipresent god, or http://home.datacomm.ch/prutishauser/humor/hack/know.ur.sysadmin.html, or and the guy you should always blame for problems with your computer |
| 08:36.27 | bev_ | FI_OpwK: don't ask to ask, just ask |
| 08:36.34 | FI_OpwK | true |
| 08:37.01 | FI_OpwK | is Sana's terminal reversible to Jessie? |
| 08:37.58 | bev_ | dunno :) now someone else might... wait and see |
| 08:38.16 | FI_OpwK | do you follow my question though? |
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| 08:38.33 | FI_OpwK | its trivial, but I like what I like. |
| 08:39.02 | bev_ | FI_OpwK: i'm here for help too, so can't provide much |
| 08:39.12 | FI_OpwK | in understand |
| 08:39.28 | themill | FI_OpwK: I doubt anyone understands your question |
| 08:40.15 | FI_OpwK | it's a transparency issue. sana shows windows, jessie doesn't. (when in maximum screen) |
| 08:40.33 | FI_OpwK | I like them both, but I prefer to have a choice. |
| 08:40.45 | themill | sana? |
| 08:40.46 | Amun_Ra | and what's Sana? |
| 08:40.56 | FI_OpwK | kali's rollling distro |
| 08:40.58 | bev_ | looks to be a distribution |
| 08:41.06 | themill | You'd have to ask #kali-linux |
| 08:41.12 | FI_OpwK | already have. |
| 08:41.34 | FI_OpwK | i asked mi1k_ |
| 08:42.35 | bev_ | and the answer was to ask here? :) |
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| 08:42.54 | FI_OpwK | ha, no, but I don't just sit in one place. |
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| 08:43.10 | bev_ | ok. |
| 08:43.30 | FI_OpwK | goggle is useless, forums are too slow. best I have is screenshot examples. |
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| 08:44.19 | FI_OpwK | ironic but it's a big deal to me, I just like to have choice ya know. |
| 08:44.33 | FI_OpwK | *not a big deal. |
| 08:44.34 | bev_ | sunday, irc, real-life, slow... hem :) |
| 08:45.09 | FI_OpwK | are u trolling on me ? |
| 08:45.15 | FI_OpwK | figures. |
| 08:45.30 | themill | FI_OpwK: you want #kali-linux -- there's nothing to do with debian in your question |
| 08:45.58 | bev_ | As i said, i'm here to get help, if i can provide, i will |
| 08:46.03 | FI_OpwK | themill, i agree. just figured i'd ask here also. |
| 08:47.01 | FI_OpwK | bev_ whats your issue? |
| 08:47.17 | FI_OpwK | (what do you need help with) |
| 08:47.31 | bev_ | RAID1 not booting if i remove the initial /dev/sda disk |
| 08:48.02 | FI_OpwK | partitioning, not my strong suit either. |
| 08:48.05 | bev_ | hem, booting on sdc1 to be correct, and systemd probably not willing to do so |
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| 08:49.48 | bev_ | Let's give it a try again if someone has any clue. |
| 08:50.35 | bev_ | I've installed jessie fine with sdc2 as /home and sda1//sdb1 RAID1 /home |
| 08:51.04 | FI_OpwK | ok.. |
| 08:51.25 | bev_ | now, disks are failing, so moving parts, i dd-ed sda to a new sdb, boot is fine |
| 08:51.47 | FI_OpwK | r8 |
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| 08:52.59 | bev_ | if i remove sda (old) systemd is not degrading the RAID, just locks with a "A start job is running for [my-md-uuid]" |
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| 08:54.05 | bev_ | i can switch sda<->sdb it boots |
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| 08:55.13 | FI_OpwK | and this is full install or dual boot? |
| 08:55.14 | bev_ | it's whenever i remove the old disk that it gets closed in systemd, and i don't find uuids references in there |
| 08:55.26 | bev_ | FI_OpwK: full install |
| 08:55.35 | FI_OpwK | hm |
| 08:56.33 | bev_ | i've found some bug references to swap, but i'm not swapping on these disks |
| 08:56.53 | FI_OpwK | doesn't sound like you would need swap anyway. |
| 08:57.18 | bev_ | not for booting :) |
| 08:57.38 | FI_OpwK | wouldn't think for allocation either.. |
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| 08:58.18 | atomicbee | Hi o/ |
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| 08:59.31 | bev_ | \_o< *beep* |
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| 09:01.51 | FI_OpwK | unfortunately, bev_ im no help in that department. |
| 09:02.02 | FI_OpwK | You did remind me of another issue though. |
| 09:03.53 | moop | !bang |
| 09:03.53 | dpkg | somebody said bang was '!'. |
| 09:04.02 | atomicbee | Long time ago, I used Debian SIDÂ but I gave up for a while... Now I would like to get back, but I have a question... At the time, it was recommended to install debian32 to avoid problems with flash. This is solved now? |
| 09:05.06 | moop | !! |
| 09:05.07 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
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| 09:05.28 | moop | atomicbee: flash is fine |
| 09:05.31 | bev_ | flash, as in a browser, atomicbee? |
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| 09:06.03 | atomicbee | yes yes in a browser for streaming stuff... |
| 09:06.10 | atomicbee | thx moop :) |
| 09:06.15 | bev_ | no problem |
| 09:07.20 | DoctorD90 | anyone use lxc? linux container? i need a little explaination :P |
| 09:07.45 | bev_ | DoctorD90: don't ask to ask, just ask :) |
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| 09:08.13 | bev_ | (and i don't use lxc, so won't reply) |
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| 09:08.32 | DoctorD90 | yea, but a little useless if no one use lxc atm xP btw...lol xD ok |
| 09:08.32 | moop | isn't lxc dead? i thought everyone used docker now |
| 09:08.52 | moop | or that other thing that competes with docker |
| 09:09.08 | DoctorD90 | i read that lxc has issue with jessie. i would understand better this issue.... |
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| 09:09.36 | DoctorD90 | moop: they accomplish different virtualization tasks... |
| 09:10.13 | moop | i thought both were attempts to make linux jails a thing |
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| 09:10.50 | DoctorD90 | yes, but a different levels fro what people yesterday explain to me |
| 09:11.12 | DoctorD90 | lxc create a "full" subsystem....docker limited to an app |
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| 09:11.48 | bev_ | !ask |
| 09:11.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 09:11.58 | moop | DoctorD90: ah i see |
| 09:12.32 | DoctorD90 | bev_: understood :) |
| 09:13.02 | bev_ | !smart questions |
| 09:13.02 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
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| 09:23.53 | Ormu | so bitcoin-qt is only in unstable? |
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| 09:26.05 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ormu -about ssb |
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| 09:26.24 | babilen | Ormu: Correct, but you should be able to backport it yourself. See dpkg's private message for details. |
| 09:26.40 | TomItsTime | ||||| >>>>> WHAT IS YOUR DOMAIN NAME WORTH? Vist >>> www.VALBOT.com <<< FREE DOMAIN VALUATION! or GOOGLE >>> VALBOT.com <<< ||||| |
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| 09:28.26 | Ormu | babilen: hm thanks... although compiling it from source seems to be simpler for me |
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| 09:30.17 | babilen | Ormu: How so? That procedure does compile it from source, installs necessary dependency and results in a package that is easy to remove. If you decide to compile from source make sure that you install into /usr/local. I strongly recommend to use stow to manage that installation. |
| 09:30.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell Ormu -about stow usage |
| 09:31.05 | babilen | But sure, do whatever you deem appropriate. :) |
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| 09:34.01 | Pwkay | morning |
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| 09:34.43 | Pwkay | someone know, which password have root on live usb? |
| 09:35.25 | DoctorD90 | root:live if i remember well Pwkay |
| 09:35.31 | DoctorD90 | root user, live pass |
| 09:36.12 | Pwkay | doesnt work :c |
| 09:36.15 | DoctorD90 | or if you get issue, little trick: run Root Terminal in apps menu, and run passwd |
| 09:36.28 | DoctorD90 | it will leave changento you :P |
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| 09:36.57 | Pwkay | i see no root terminal in live usb :I |
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| 09:37.53 | DoctorD90 | it has to be.... |
| 09:38.05 | DoctorD90 | it is an icon with terminal in red.... |
| 09:38.13 | FI_OpwK | Okay, I've researched my (solution), question, I have Gnome Terminal 3.14.2 installed on Debian Sana, However, I wish to have Gnome Terminal 3.4.1.1 (also if possible) while still on Sana. Is this possible? |
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| 09:39.25 | DoctorD90 | ehm ... FI_OpwK sorry..but..as i can say... |
| 09:39.26 | DoctorD90 | !kali |
| 09:39.26 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 09:41.25 | Pwkay | oh... noone in debian irc knows root password for liveusb. And terminal doesnt work in manjaro liveusb. I f**** love penguins :'D |
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| 09:43.01 | DoctorD90 | ? Pwkay manjaro...isnt debian..... |
| 09:43.08 | Ormu | !lmde |
| 09:43.09 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 09:43.35 | DoctorD90 | i think that you dont love penguin so much.... |
| 09:43.40 | DoctorD90 | ehm...manjaro is arch... |
| 09:43.43 | DoctorD90 | !arch |
| 09:43.43 | dpkg | [arch] a hardware architecture (i386, amd64, armel, mips, mipsel, sparc, powerpc, alpha, hppa, s390 && ia64). Also a source control revision system (GNU arch). Arch (and its twin brother ArX) resides at http://arch.fifthvision.net/, or http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5928, or #arch Since lenny, /bin/arch has disappeared, use "uname -m" instead, or <architecture>, or <arch linux>. |
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| 09:43.49 | DoctorD90 | no....btw |
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| 09:44.04 | Pwkay | yep, but i uses debian live to recover grub :D |
| 09:44.06 | DoctorD90 | Pwkay: if you stuff for manjaro, this isnt the rigth place :P |
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| 09:44.23 | DoctorD90 | ah ok...this is another hand... |
| 09:44.37 | Pwkay | ikr, i have debian on my pc |
| 09:44.49 | DoctorD90 | search better under apps....root terminal exists....i run debian8 live, and it has |
| 09:45.03 | Pwkay | but got problems with wifi on laptop and needs aur |
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| 09:45.18 | Pwkay | nvm right now, sudo su works :D |
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| 09:46.06 | babilen | Pwkay: Just use "sudo -i" to get a shell as root |
| 09:46.13 | babilen | (there isn't a password set by default) |
| 09:46.44 | joshhartigan | I'm trying to load the non-free network firmware from a usb (in a /firmware folder), but the debian installer can not find it. Anyone know what to do? |
| 09:47.23 | Pwkay | radical method - make liveusb from non-free debian edition |
| 09:47.43 | joshhartigan | Pwkay: Is the non-free edition available on the official website? |
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| 09:48.09 | DoctorD90 | Pwkay: isnt faster to add non-free to sources.list? |
| 09:48.16 | babilen | joshhartigan: I typically just use the netinstall image with firmware (cf. "/msg dpkg firmware image"), but it should work if you place the firmware .debs on a USB stick. You can download all of them here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/stable/current/ |
| 09:48.17 | DoctorD90 | update and get pkgs? 0o |
| 09:48.49 | babilen | joshhartigan: The ISO images with firmware are available from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 09:48.56 | joshhartigan | babilen: I did download those .debs and put them in [usb]/firmware. But I'll try your first method. Thanks |
| 09:49.15 | babilen | No, not /firmware, just in / |
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| 09:49.38 | joshhartigan | babilen: ok, I'll retry it with the .debs in the usb root. |
| 09:49.52 | babilen | joshhartigan: It *might* happen that the installer still asks you to provide the firmware. Just continue the installation with the firmware iso and it should work fine. |
| 09:49.55 | Pwkay | @DoctorD90, it helps, but not ever (for example - if wifi requires nonfree drivers) |
| 09:50.16 | babilen | joshhartigan: Are you installing from CD or are you using two USB pen drives? |
| 09:50.26 | joshhartigan | babilen: 2 USBs |
| 09:50.34 | DoctorD90 | Pwkay: and nonfree drivers arent on non-free repo? |
| 09:50.54 | babilen | That might be problematic (haven't tested that, but seem to remember that people had problems with that setup). I'd personally just use the firmware image, but give it a try now :) |
| 09:51.13 | joshhartigan | babilen: I think I'm going to use the firmware iso. Thanks for your help :) |
| 09:51.24 | hid3 | Maybe someone is willing to repackage/backport 'mpd' from stratch to wheezy? |
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| 09:52.53 | Pwkay | @DoctorD90, if you cant connect to internets, it doesnt means |
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| 09:53.22 | DoctorD90 | ah, sorry, dont know this "feature" of your case :P |
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| 09:54.06 | Pwkay | its typicaly problem of realteks wifi |
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| 10:29.44 | joshhartigan | I just installed Debian with a Non-Free Netinst ISO. Everything was fine in the install, but I am not connected to Wi-Fi (tested with ping). What should I do? (sorry for noob question) |
| 10:30.39 | SynrG | did you install a desktop? |
| 10:30.49 | joshhartigan | SynrG: No, no desktop env |
| 10:31.06 | SynrG | is there anything in /etc/network/interfaces for your wireless? |
| 10:32.22 | joshhartigan | I can't recognise any Wi-Fi names in that file. It looks like a default preset file right now. |
| 10:32.50 | SynrG | is network-manager installed? i think it isn't if you don't select a desktop ... |
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| 10:33.23 | bev_ | I've installed jessie fine with sdc2 as /home and sda1//sdb1 RAID1 /home |
| 10:33.31 | joshhartigan | SynrG: no it isn't |
| 10:33.36 | SynrG | it is technically possible, but a bit unwieldly, to install and use network-manager without a desktop. otherwise, you need to configure wireless in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:33.44 | SynrG | is it your intention to install a desktop? |
| 10:34.20 | bev_ | RAID1 not booting if i remove the initial /dev/sda disk |
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| 10:34.26 | joshhartigan | I will install X with a window manager, but I don't like desktop environments very much. |
| 10:34.33 | bev_ | i can switch sda<->sdb it boots |
| 10:34.47 | valdyn | bev_: you need to install grub to both disks |
| 10:34.53 | SynrG | i would recommend for the long term, selecting a wireless manager that you like. I recommend network-manager-gnome, which should be installable without dragging in all of gnome with it ... |
| 10:35.00 | SynrG | there is also wicd if you prefer |
| 10:35.03 | bev_ | valdyn: done that |
| 10:35.25 | SynrG | can you install this stuff with ethernet for now? if not, then there's some manual setup you need to do in the interim in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:35.47 | joshhartigan | I can't use ethernet right now. Couldn't I put some software on a USB and load it off of that? |
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| 10:36.02 | SynrG | is at least wireless-tools and wpasupplicant there? |
| 10:36.09 | SynrG | or do you just have base? |
| 10:36.35 | joshhartigan | `wireless-tools` and `wpasupplicant` are not found |
| 10:36.36 | SynrG | in theory, with those packages, you can just do: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK |
| 10:36.49 | SynrG | though i was helping a user yesterday and they failed to successfully follow those instructions ... |
| 10:37.01 | SynrG | i don't know if it was "just them" or if there's something wrong with the instructions |
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| 10:37.11 | itt788 | I'm trying to write a little piece of code to set a register through a file. here is my test code:http://vpaste.net/Ux0uN . I would like review from others to avoid pitfalls. |
| 10:37.33 | SynrG | joshhartigan: you would need those two packages. that would be good enough to bootstrap the rest of your install over wireless |
| 10:37.52 | SynrG | joshhartigan: it's likely there's a much deeper dependency tree to install a proper wireless manager at this stage. |
| 10:37.57 | joshhartigan | SynrG: I'll have a go at putting those packages on a usb and moving them over then? |
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| 10:38.02 | SynrG | yep |
| 10:38.39 | joshhartigan | ok, thank you |
| 10:38.39 | SynrG | i am, of course, assuming WPA-PSK ... |
| 10:38.45 | bev_ | valdyn: did an update-initramfs, update-grub tehn on all disks |
| 10:38.48 | SynrG | if you have something else, there are other instructions on that page. |
| 10:38.50 | joshhartigan | The Wi-Fi is WPA2 if that's what you mean |
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| 10:39.06 | SynrG | yes. but that has flavours (PSK being most common) |
| 10:39.37 | SynrG | it's probably what you have |
| 10:40.08 | valdyn | bev_: that does not install grub to any disk |
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| 10:40.42 | SynrG | joshhartigan: as for those missing packages, you failed to select either a desktop or the 'laptop' package. |
| 10:40.52 | SynrG | argh, too late |
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| 10:41.44 | bev_ | uh, valdyn it does. |
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| 10:47.23 | bev_ | valdyn: sorry i was not specific, that was grub-install of coursse |
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| 11:12.36 | GedeonBoots | close |
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| 11:27.21 | Pwkay | emmh... Someone with laptop? |
| 11:27.46 | Pwkay | I have 2 boot partitions - EFI system partition and / |
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| 11:28.06 | Pwkay | is it safe to remove boot flag from efi partition? |
| 11:28.17 | Pwkay | im on legacy mode |
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| 11:32.33 | SCDias | Pwkay: Does the root partition has the boot flag? |
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| 11:36.35 | Pwkay | yes |
| 11:36.41 | Pwkay | there are 2 boot flags |
| 11:36.49 | Pwkay | thats problem, i think |
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| 11:36.59 | Pwkay | but idkr |
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| 12:05.33 | linwiz | I'm Trying to run a command when a USB drive is inserted, but I'm not sure what part is not working. It is supposed to start playing music from the USB when it's inserted. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 12:06.47 | illy | burn it as audio(?) |
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| 12:15.15 | burningChrome_ | hi |
| 12:15.56 | DeHackEd | I have a debian 8 system which isn't starting jobs (specifically networking) on bootup. `/etc/init.d/netowrking [re]start` says it succeeded but doesn't actually bring up the network. I'm kinda picking up on someone else's system and I suspect something's been tampered with as it runs in an LXC container |
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| 12:19.36 | zhxk | anybody please kindly pass me /sbin/modprobe and /sbin/sysctl from debain 7 32bit version, thank you! |
| 12:19.57 | illy | yeah sure hold on a week |
| 12:20.14 | illy | :P gl |
| 12:20.19 | rozie | zhxk: packages.debian.org archive.debian.org |
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| 12:22.39 | linwiz | illy: were you talking to me? |
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| 12:22.56 | illy | no |
| 12:23.01 | illy | :D |
| 12:23.10 | illy | maybe yes |
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| 12:23.31 | zhxk | roizie, how to get those binarys? |
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| 12:23.52 | zhxk | i happend deleted those binarys |
| 12:23.53 | linwiz | illy: If so, I don |
| 12:24.03 | linwiz | t know what you mean |
| 12:24.27 | illy | neither do i |
| 12:24.32 | illy | all good :P |
| 12:24.46 | linwiz | ok |
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| 12:25.08 | jelly | zhxk: just reinstall kmod and procps, then |
| 12:25.13 | zhxk | who can help me? how to download/reinstall them |
| 12:25.14 | at0m | zhxk: procps package has sysctl |
| 12:25.15 | DeHackEd | reinstall the module-init-tools or kmod package? (depending on your system) |
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| 12:25.59 | zhxk | jelly, give me the exact command, thank you |
| 12:26.00 | jelly | zhxk: do you have your debian root filesystem mounted? do you have network configured? |
| 12:26.12 | zhxk | sure |
| 12:26.27 | zhxk | its a openvz from banwagonhost |
| 12:26.33 | jelly | zhxk: apt-get --reinstall install kmod procps |
| 12:27.31 | jelly | zhxk: "dpkg -S /sbin/sysctl" will have told you which package it comes from |
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| 12:27.58 | zhxk | jelly, thank you very much, guru |
| 12:28.05 | jelly | lol |
| 12:28.17 | RoyK | zhxk: if those binaries are changed/replaced, you should check if there's a rootkit installed, and if you find one, reinstall everything |
| 12:28.25 | jelly | zhxk: that's really basic stuff, not guru level |
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| 12:31.18 | DeHackEd | I think I figured out my issue. /run isn't being wiped on bootup so there are lock files left behind... |
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| 12:33.05 | themill | /run should be a tmpfs |
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| 12:34.31 | jelly | zhxk: modprobe won't be useful at all inside openvz, anyway |
| 12:34.57 | ghostinzshell | Is it possible to enable categories in GNOME menu? |
| 12:35.15 | zhxk | jelly, really? |
| 12:35.26 | ghostinzshell | Since I can't uninstall gnome-games without uninstalling gnome, I might as hide the games under categories. |
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| 12:39.23 | ChunkzZ | hello. how can I set my torguard proxy up so debian uses the proxy for all internet traffic? |
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| 12:46.17 | jelly | zhxk: really |
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| 12:49.06 | zhxk | jelly, would you please give me some hints about optimize network transfer quality of openvz on bandwagonhost at losanger to china? |
| 12:49.23 | linwiz | I'm Trying to run a command when a USB drive is inserted, but I'm not sure what part is not working. It is supposed to start playing music from the USB when it's inserted. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 12:49.28 | bazhang | los anger? |
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| 12:50.35 | BlackBinary | hi guys |
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| 13:04.32 | hexnewbie | Uh, upgrading my Iceweasel switched my spell checker to USA English. Annoying. |
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| 13:06.08 | Pwkay | it happens |
| 13:06.29 | hexnewbie | Now I have to switch it back for every single web site I visit. |
| 13:07.06 | at0m | hexnewbie: about:addons ? |
| 13:07.39 | hexnewbie | at0m: There's supposed to be a spell checker there? |
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| 13:10.30 | at0m | hexnewbie: don't have one. there's language settings in about:preferences#content though |
| 13:11.35 | at0m | maybe spell checker follows default language there? |
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| 13:12.05 | hexnewbie | at0m: The only thing I see about a spell checker is spellchecker.dictionary in about:config. Its value is en-GB, as it has always been, yet my forms are checked for USA spelling. My default language isn't even English for that matter. |
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| 13:23.07 | DeHackEd | <themill> /run should be a tmpfs # it's not... I guess that's an issue |
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| 13:24.56 | nignog | ha |
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| 13:27.01 | DeHackEd | I guess I can make an rcS script to wipe it out.. |
| 13:27.44 | xand | where does debian get the hostname from if /etc/hostname doesn't exist and it's not in /etc/hosts ? |
| 13:29.27 | themill | it can also be injected from the host for some VMs or by a dhcp client |
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| 13:30.43 | zhxk | bazhan, losangeles, my english is poor |
| 13:31.11 | Freebuilder | zhxk, ä¸å½äººï¼ |
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| 13:33.14 | DeHackEd | is there a way to explicitly state a service should be named "S00*" in the /etc/init.d files? I need a script to be run absolutely first, or as close to it as possible. it looks like the order of startup is not in my control like it is on redhat-style systems |
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| 13:34.07 | themill | what init system are you actually using? |
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| 13:35.08 | DeHackEd | debian 8's... inittab has "si::sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS" and I want to put my script right at the top of the list |
| 13:35.17 | Kathgrar | Hey all |
| 13:35.24 | themill | that's not an answer to "which init system are you actually using" |
| 13:35.36 | DeHackEd | I don't know. I didn't install this, I'm just trying to fix it |
| 13:36.24 | themill | what does «dpkg -S /sbin/init» say? |
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| 13:37.06 | DeHackEd | sysvinit |
| 13:37.13 | SynrG | xand: the kernel is initially responsible, and later /etc/init.d/hostname.sh sets it (that's what overrides it from /etc/hostname, if present) and later, as themill indicates, dhcp could override it |
| 13:37.37 | SynrG | comments in the init script say that if not set by the kernel, 'localhost' would be used |
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| 13:37.50 | SynrG | that is, if /etc/hostname is absent |
| 13:38.19 | themill | DeHackEd: really? |
| 13:38.22 | SynrG | i don't know where the VM setting the name fits in |
| 13:38.46 | xand | I guess the hypervisor passes it to the kernel at boot? |
| 13:39.06 | SynrG | could be |
| 13:39.31 | DeHackEd | themill: I merely report the news |
| 13:39.48 | linwiz | I'm Trying to run a command when a USB drive is inserted, but I'm not sure what part is not working. It is supposed to start playing music from the USB when it's inserted. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 13:40.21 | themill | DeHackEd: that's not output you'd get from Debian 8. |
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| 13:40.42 | themill | it's not the full output you'd get from any Debian release, actually |
| 13:40.50 | DeHackEd | /etc/issue says "Debian GNU/Linux 8 \n \l" |
| 13:41.12 | DeHackEd | the full output of the dpkg -S command is "sysvinit: /sbin/init" |
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| 13:42.27 | themill | sounds like a machine that's not actually upgraded to jessie then |
| 13:43.52 | DeHackEd | exquisite... |
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| 13:45.02 | themill | a half-arsed upgrade could certainly leave you in a state where nothing is taking responsibility for mounting /run |
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| 13:45.33 | themill | do you not have a /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh? |
| 13:45.34 | DeHackEd | no that's not it. it's running in LXC. it doesn't have permission to use the mount(2) syscall |
| 13:45.46 | themill | ahh, well that would do it too |
| 13:45.49 | Kathgrar | DeHackEd: cat /etc/debian_version ? |
| 13:46.16 | DeHackEd | so I planned to make a script to just rm -rf /run/ on startup instead, but then the issue is making sure it's run first thing |
| 13:46.28 | DeHackEd | Kathgrar: 8.1 |
| 13:46.47 | themill | DeHackEd: put the command in the relevant place in /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh should work |
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| 13:47.16 | DeHackEd | yeah that would work, but I would prefer to minimize the modifications to default scripts. during another upgrade won't it get undone? |
| 13:47.27 | themill | no, this isn't rhel |
| 13:47.54 | themill | (the local admin's changes in /etc are preserved) |
| 13:49.08 | DeHackEd | redhat will either keep them and make a ".rpmnew" containing the updated version, or backup the user's version as ".rpmsave" and replace it. and I'm not actually sure what causes which behaviour to be selected... |
| 13:49.53 | DeHackEd | well, that should do it |
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| 14:02.40 | itt788 | I'm trying to use aptitude to download and install gvim but it does not reponds when I press "+" |
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| 14:08.02 | Freebuilder | Debian jessie, /etc/default/tmpfs is invalid. |
| 14:08.12 | at0m | itt788: from numpad? try from 'main' keyboard, shift-= |
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| 14:10.33 | somiaj | itt788: What do you mean doesn't respond? I don't use the curses interface but I think all that does is mark it for install, you have to apply the changes once you are done marking things. |
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| 14:10.42 | rgr | the irony of "+" not working when installing a variety of vim... |
| 14:10.47 | somiaj | itt788: aptitude install vim-gtk also works |
| 14:11.29 | Kathgrar | Ohh, 278 MBit/s WLAN connection with Debian ;) |
| 14:11.41 | BlackBinary | i have some problem with the authn_default_module (/usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_authn_default.so) since the update from debian 7 to 8 how can i fix this ? http://dpaste.com/31MZP3Y |
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| 14:12.03 | themill | gvim is also not a real package |
| 14:12.15 | Kathgrar | Is there a good util to erase and burn a DVD in Debian? |
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| 14:18.55 | somiaj | Kathgrar: what do you mean by erase, most dvd's can't be errased, tehre are dvd rw that can be rewritten I belive and wodim I think can handel them |
| 14:18.56 | head8debian | Hello all, i am from the Supertux Development team, and just recently our latest dev version using OpenGL stopped working. This is what it looks like. http://screencast.com/t/QweSY5sFS If we use the fallback SDL renderer it works fine. This is the output. sydney@debian:~/Sources/supertux$ ./supertux2 --renderer opengl |
| 14:19.01 | head8debian | Adding language fallback en |
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| 14:19.21 | somiaj | BlackBinary: did you read the release notes about apache upgrade from 7 to 8, there are some changes you need to be aware of that could make things not work during the upgrade. |
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| 14:19.35 | head8debian | Shoot, im sorry. |
| 14:19.45 | Kathgrar | somiaj: correct, i meant DVD-RW, want to clean (erase) a DVD and burn an image to it |
| 14:19.53 | head8debian | That was not the pastebin link... |
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| 14:20.05 | head8debian | Let me retry. |
| 14:20.40 | somiaj | Kathgrar: wodim is the main cd/dvd buring tool and I know has support for dvd+rw, just unsure what support as I have not used it. |
| 14:21.04 | somiaj | Kathgrar: I belive there are some gui front ends to it, but I can't think of their names right now |
| 14:21.04 | Kathgrar | somiaj: Looks nice, and is there a command line tool too? |
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| 14:21.13 | somiaj | Kathgrar: wodim is a command line tool |
| 14:21.16 | head8debian | Hello all, i am from the Supertux Development team, and just recently our latest dev version using OpenGL stopped working. This is what it looks like. http://screencast.com/t/QweSY5sFS If we use the fallback SDL renderer it works fine. This is the output. https://paste.debian.net/309688/ |
| 14:21.17 | somiaj | Kathgrar: it use to be call cdrecord |
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| 14:21.21 | Kathgrar | Ah, i'll give it a try |
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| 14:21.57 | head8debian | I also don't remember a program updated that was related to OpenGL in the mailing list. |
| 14:22.07 | head8debian | Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 14:22.27 | head8debian | And im super sorry for the spam-out, i do know better. |
| 14:23.18 | somiaj | head8debian: have you checked teh basics, /var/log/Xorg.0.log make sure your graphics drivers are loading correctly, maybe the output of glxinfo or xvinfo? |
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| 14:23.42 | somiaj | head8debian: I don't have any ideas what the issue could be, but just suggesting standard debugging. Also glxgears is a way to see if glx is working on your system at least. |
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| 14:24.15 | head8debian | somiaj: Im not great with this, but we have been able to reproduce it on 2 seperate machines. One with non-free drivers and one with open drivers. |
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| 14:24.37 | head8debian | THe odd thing is that ot worked fine 2 weeks ago. |
| 14:24.40 | Pwkay | emmh |
| 14:24.43 | head8debian | it* |
| 14:24.52 | somiaj | head8debian: is this on debian 8 (jessie)? |
| 14:25.13 | head8debian | Yes. |
| 14:25.41 | Pwkay | debian nonfree - when im starts with liveusb, everything ok, but, when im goin to install - wifi goes to endless cycle of password asking (i write it correct). Any ideas? |
| 14:25.57 | somiaj | head8debian: you aren't using any other third-party sources or jessie-backports? jessie is a frozen system and things shouldn't just change like this. Sure it isn't an issue with a modification in the program you are working on? |
| 14:26.18 | itt788 | at0m: i'm doing from main keyboard |
| 14:26.26 | head8debian | somiaj: Thats what we are trying to troubleshoot. |
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| 14:26.38 | head8debian | No, no third party sources or jessie-backports. |
| 14:26.43 | somiaj | head8debian: have a record of the change log of the software you are working with? |
| 14:26.57 | head8debian | I will have to dig back. |
| 14:27.02 | head8debian | Thats my next thought. |
| 14:27.03 | somiaj | head8debian: that is where you want to look, maybe revert the version to one that works so you can identify where the bug was introduced. |
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| 14:27.17 | head8debian | Xorg.0.log looks fine. |
| 14:27.25 | head8debian | Ok. |
| 14:27.42 | Pwkay | guys? |
| 14:27.44 | itt788 | somiaj: when pressing '+' it should flag the software as 'pended for installation' I don't remember which flag exactly, but here no flag is applied. |
| 14:28.20 | head8debian | Tobbi: ... |
| 14:28.35 | head8debian | Tobbi: I guess we try that next. |
| 14:28.45 | Tobbi | head8debian: I'm using OpenGL for sure. |
| 14:29.04 | Tobbi | head8debian: git bisect is your friend ;) |
| 14:29.04 | head8debian | Using the --renderer option? |
| 14:29.08 | head8debian | o_O |
| 14:29.21 | Tobbi | head8debian: No, but I can see it's using GLEW in the debug log. |
| 14:29.35 | head8debian | ... |
| 14:29.45 | linwiz | I'm Trying to run a command when a USB drive is inserted, but I'm not sure what part is not working. It is supposed to start playing music from the USB when it's inserted. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 14:29.46 | head8debian | Just try --renderer opengl. :p |
| 14:30.03 | somiaj | itt788: well my suggestion is just isntall it from the command line. I don't know what the issue could be with apptitude. Did you happen to run aptitude as your user and not as root, so it won't let you make any changes, just look around? |
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| 14:31.20 | somiaj | linwiz: the drive is correctly mounted in the right spot? your music.sh script is executable? |
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| 14:32.04 | itt788 | somiaj: I'm running it as root; I used it last time to install 'tree' maybe 2 or 3 days ago |
| 14:32.37 | linwiz | somiaj: yes, and yes |
| 14:32.39 | somiaj | itt788: just double checking, because I noticed you can run it as a normal user too so maybe you didn't run it as root this time and that is why it can't make changes. |
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| 14:33.49 | somiaj | linwiz: only other thought I had was the user that runs the script will get its permisions assoicated with the file you copy it to. Could it be the script is running as root and you need to run it as your normal user? |
| 14:33.58 | somiaj | linwiz: I'm assuming the script works fine when run as a normal user? |
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| 14:35.42 | linwiz | somiaj: correct. |
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| 14:36.05 | somiaj | linwiz: try running the script as root, does it work then? |
| 14:36.25 | itt788 | somiaj : I'm running as root this time as well |
| 14:36.52 | linwiz | somiaj: no, it does not work as root |
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| 14:37.10 | itt788 | somiaj : I know even as a normal user it should set the flag; it will prompt us only when moving head for install |
| 14:37.12 | somiaj | linwiz: that is the problem, the script is being run as root, make it run as your normal user in either udev or in the script. |
| 14:37.51 | linwiz | I can't beleive I didn't think to test that part. I am not sure how to do either of those. What does that involve? |
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| 14:38.47 | somiaj | linwiz: well if it is being run as root, you can use su to run something as any user you want |
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| 14:39.18 | somiaj | though udev rules may have an option to specifiy the user |
| 14:41.38 | linwiz | somiaj: Okay, so its this command that doesn't work as root. mocp -t shuffle,r,n -p |
| 14:42.17 | somiaj | linwiz: I'd run the whole script as yoru normal user (otherwise root will get ownership of the .mpu file) |
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| 14:42.50 | somiaj | linwiz: so in your udev rule something like su -c /apth/to/script username |
| 14:42.59 | linwiz | somiaj: I'll have to figure out how to do that first |
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| 14:43.36 | linwiz | somiaj: ah. I'll try it out |
| 14:43.42 | somiaj | linwiz: man su for more info |
| 14:43.56 | linwiz | somiaj: right |
| 14:43.57 | Kathgrar | &MSG MemoServ HELP READ |
| 14:44.45 | at0m | help capslock |
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| 14:47.09 | linwiz | somiaj: That part ~seems~ to be working, but Now I am finding out that udev isn't running the script at all. |
| 14:47.53 | somiaj | linwiz: I have less experince here, unsure what could be wrong with your rule or if another rule (the automounter) takes priority and it ignores your custom rule. |
| 14:48.09 | somiaj | also unsure if you have to restart udev after you add a rule or not. |
| 14:48.45 | Kathgrar | at0m: I'm sorry, shame on me :( |
| 14:48.47 | linwiz | somiaj: I have restarted just to be sure. I don't know much about udev also, but I'm trying. |
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| 14:49.11 | somiaj | linwiz: I find that google and trial and error is my friend when doing somethign like this. Usually it is one small bit you are missing...:/ |
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| 14:49.23 | somiaj | Kathgrar: talk to the bots in caps all you want...(: |
| 14:50.36 | Kathgrar | It wasn't my fault, my keyboard hates me :P |
| 14:50.53 | somiaj | linwiz: you need the full path in the rule, so /bin/su -c /full/path/to/script username |
| 14:51.01 | somiaj | linwiz: so if you copied my line it wouldn't work. |
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| 14:53.00 | linwiz | somiaj: I corrected that, thank you. It is still not working, my rule must be broken. Will have to continue searching |
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| 14:54.32 | somiaj | linwiz: check the .mpu file, if it is owned as root, your user can't overwrite it, and thus that command fails and the && will then keep the other comand from running |
| 14:54.45 | linwiz | The usb automatically gets mounted. Would that interfere with my rule? |
| 14:54.49 | t4bme | Hey. :-) I'm configuring bind and isc-dhcpd on Jessie. At the moment the update requests of the dhcpd always time out. |
| 14:54.51 | t4bme | I tried nsupdate -d and found it sends the update request to the wrong IP (also on the LAN subnet, but doesn't exist). Where is nsupdate (and I guess also dhcpd) supposed to get that IP adress from? |
| 14:55.29 | linwiz | somiaj: It is owned by my user and group. |
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| 14:57.46 | t4bme | Okay, nevermind, did "find /etc/ -type f | xargs grep '<that strange IP>'". Found it. But I never configured that for sure. o.O |
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| 14:59.43 | t4bme | Oh. Yes, I did, during installation I told it to use that IP address. The installation thingy must have put it into /etc/hosts |
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| 15:01.04 | t4bme | Sorry for disturbing you too early. I had been searching the problem for at least half an hour. |
| 15:01.38 | t4bme | Other question: find /dir -type f | xargs grep 'search term' |
| 15:01.41 | somiaj | t4bme: sometimes talking to oneself is a good way to debug things. (: |
| 15:01.50 | t4bme | somiaj: Yes. :-) |
| 15:02.03 | somiaj | t4bme: some would say using grep is the silly way to do it, find /dir -type f -name 'srting' |
| 15:02.08 | t4bme | Sorry, hit enter by accident. Is there a shorter way of that command? |
| 15:02.18 | somiaj | oh wait, sorry you wanted the file not the name, my bad |
| 15:02.27 | BlackHat420 | installing debian, how much swap do i set for 8 gigs of ram |
| 15:02.40 | somiaj | but there is also -exec so you don't have to pipe it, just exec grep on each file since that is what you are doing. |
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| 15:02.54 | somiaj | t4bme: also grep has recruves move, grep -r string /etc/* |
| 15:03.05 | somiaj | BlackHat420: do you want to be able to hibernate your system? |
| 15:04.10 | somiaj | BlackHat420: I have 12gigs of ram and don't use a swap drive, depending on your use you may not need swap with that much ram (though depending on your use you could easily use lots of ram). If you want to hibernate your system, all of your ram is copied to swap so you'll need at least 8 gigs. If you don't want to hibernate, it will depend on what you are really going to do with your system. |
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| 15:04.58 | slikts | what's a good way to add an alias for all users? |
| 15:05.06 | t4bme | somiaj: Thanks, I thought grep was able to do that, but for some reason I didn't get it to do this when I tried earlier so I switched to the complicated method. But this works, tried. :-) |
| 15:05.32 | somiaj | slikts: for login shells I belive things in /etc/profile get used by all users. |
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| 15:06.09 | at0m | slikts: for bash, /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 15:06.46 | somiaj | at0m: another option is put a script in /usr/local/bin (this is usually in all users $PATH and can function as an alias) |
| 15:07.00 | somiaj | slikts: ^^ |
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| 15:20.37 | t4bme | Okay, next problem: Once I removed the faulty line from /etc/hosts it stopped resolving the name altogether. The nameserver does resolve it when queried with dig, but dig without the @ parameter won't resolve it either. |
| 15:21.16 | t4bme | The first nameserver listed in the network configuration in /etc/network/interfaces is the correct one. |
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| 15:25.44 | korhojoa | since this is the largest channel i know and currently am on, i'm asking here, even though it isn't debian-related: does anyone get a successful resolve for youtube.com |
| 15:26.01 | korhojoa | i tried 4.2.2.2, 208.67.222.222 and got nothing |
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| 15:27.40 | korhojoa | google's dns apparently does resolve it (unsurprisingly), but opendns and l3 don't? |
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| 15:30.37 | Brigo | korhojoa, try 213.60.205.175 |
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| 15:32.34 | korhojoa | Brigo: some galicia isp? is their resolver for open use? |
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| 15:33.24 | Brigo | korhojoa, not sure, they are the ones i use, and i think they works ok. |
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| 15:34.27 | linwiz | I'm trying to get a udev rule to work but I can't seem to figure it out. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 15:34.28 | LunaLovegood | What app would be best for drawing maps? (streets + symbols, somewhat sparse but quite large)? I'm thinking of installing and trying Inkscape and Dia, but I'm not sure about either. |
| 15:34.48 | Brigo | korhojoa, you can try namebench, is an aplication to test dns servers for you. |
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| 15:35.50 | korhojoa | Brigo: i'll have to give it a go. switched to opendns a long time ago when my isp implemented dns-based filtering |
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| 15:42.19 | t4bme | When I use dig without specifying a dns server to use it uses the router (which happens to also run a dns server, just not the one I want to use). This means the whole system is configured to use the router as it's dns server, doesn't it? Where can one specify a dns server besides /etc/network/interfaces? because in that file I have configured the correct dns server. something must be overriding the config from the interfaces fil |
| 15:42.22 | t4bme | e. |
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| 15:43.21 | t4bme | (my system is stock Debian 8, standard install, less than a day old) |
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| 15:43.50 | somiaj | t4bme: look at /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 15:44.40 | t4bme | somiaj: Thanks, there it is. Can I remove that file? Or should I update it? |
| 15:44.57 | somiaj | t4bme: this is what sets the system nameservers, now various things may try to edit this file (such as network-manager, scripts, etc). You can look at tools openresolv or resolvconf if you better manage the file. |
| 15:45.05 | Kathgrar | somiaj: I found a better solution. cp X.iso /dev/sdX :) |
| 15:45.07 | Brigo | t4bme, if you are using dhclient, it writes /etc/resolv.conf with the dnserver from the server |
| 15:45.31 | Kathgrar | Test |
| 15:45.37 | somiaj | t4bme: if you remove the file you will have no dns resolution, but you can modifiy it. Note scripts and other programs may overwrite you modification. |
| 15:46.05 | korhojoa | Kathgrar: success |
| 15:46.08 | Brigo | t4bme, you can add prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; in your dhclient configuration fron adding 127.0.0.1 -or wathever you want-. |
| 15:46.12 | somiaj | Kathgrar: nice. I haevn't had to burn a cd/dvd for a long time, wasnt' sure if you still needed a special way to talk to the device. (: |
| 15:46.17 | Kathgrar | Can you still read me? |
| 15:46.18 | Brigo | s/fron/for |
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| 15:47.17 | Kathgrar | somiaj: me too, but it works. I can boot a Live system from the stick, it's even faster than a DVD :) |
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| 15:48.13 | p3rror | whois pabs |
| 15:48.16 | t4bme | somiaj: Thanks, will look at the docs for those tools. |
| 15:48.19 | t4bme | Brigo: dhclient is installed but I configured the interface for a static IP in /etc/network/interfaces so probably wouldn't work |
| 15:48.42 | p3rror | pabs you there |
| 15:48.47 | Brigo | t4bme, then try modify /etc/resolv.conf, nothing should change it. |
| 15:49.06 | p3rror | pabs3 you there |
| 15:49.21 | rozie | t4bme: supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1; in /etc/dhclient.conf will always set 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf |
| 15:49.23 | itt788 | somiaj: using command line for installing gvim worked |
| 15:49.44 | Kathgrar | p3rror: /whois pabs3 should help you |
| 15:49.50 | rozie | Brigo: resolv.conf gets changed by dhclient by default |
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| 15:50.09 | Brigo | rozie, he has already said he is using stastic ip. |
| 15:50.32 | t4bme | rozie: even when not being a dhcp client? |
| 15:50.34 | itt788 | somiaj: vim-gtk in fact |
| 15:50.39 | rozie | oh, I missed that part. |
| 15:50.43 | johnbristol | In Debian 8, finger works internally but not remotely. Both fingerd and efingerd seem reliant on inetd but that appears to have been superceded. I can find no google advice on installing a finger service - does anyone here know an answer? |
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| 15:50.58 | rozie | t4bme: you can specify nameservers in /etc/network/interfaces, then |
| 15:51.17 | Brigo | johnbristol, what do you mean by "remotely"? |
| 15:51.19 | t4bme | rozie: That's what I did. But they seem to be ignored for some reason |
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| 15:51.43 | korhojoa | johnbristol: ah dangit, really? i haven't tried it yet, I just upgraded to 8. does this mean i can't finger people to see what they're up to anymore? |
| 15:51.49 | johnbristol | Brigo, from my home laptop to the server I want a finger response from |
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| 15:52.22 | johnbristol | korhojoa, you can finger them but they can no longer finger you, apparently |
| 15:52.53 | korhojoa | NNNNoooooo, how will i relay what music i am listening to now |
| 15:53.03 | mtn | t4bme, are you using a desktop, like gnome? |
| 15:53.04 | Brigo | johnbristol, if i understand what are you saying you need fingerd listening in your network interface, i guess you have to configure it. |
| 15:53.20 | t4bme | mtn: yes, gnome |
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| 15:53.41 | mtn | t4bme, then you are using network manager. make all of your changes there, including dns |
| 15:53.47 | korhojoa | how do inetd-launched services work with systemd? |
| 15:54.22 | korhojoa | can we just ping the package maintainers about it, or are there any scripts that read inetd configs and make replacements? |
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| 15:54.50 | Brigo | i have to go, bye :) |
| 15:55.17 | johnbristol | Brigo, fingerd seems reliant on inetd, which demian 8 doesn't deploy as far as I can tell |
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| 15:56.52 | abrotman | judd: file inetd |
| 15:56.55 | judd | Search for inetd in jessie/amd64: [truncated] micro-inetd: usr/bin/micro-inetd; inetutils-inetd: etc/default/inetutils-inetd, etc/init.d/inetutils-inetd; rlinetd: etc/init.d/rlinetd; xinetd: etc/default/xinetd, etc/init.d/xinetd; tcputils: usr/bin/mini-inetd; rinetd: etc/init.d/rinetd, etc/logrotate.d/rinetd, etc/ppp/ip-up.d/rinetd; reconf-inetd: etc/logrotate.d/reconf-inetd; desproxy: usr/bin |
| 15:56.55 | t4bme | mtn: I don't really understand network manager. It seemed easier not to use it because I don't need it's services plus how would I bridge adapters in network manager? I'm reading the Debian manual right now, but probably I'll just try editing resolv.conf directly. |
| 15:56.56 | judd | /desproxy-inetd; openbsd-inetd: etc/init.d/openbsd-inetd; debian-edu-config: etc/cfengine/debian-edu/cf.inetd; heartbeat: etc/ha.d/resource.d/Xinetd; logcheck-database: etc/logcheck/ignore.d.server/xinetd; cruft: usr/lib/cruft/filters-unex/openbsd-inetd; tiger: usr/lib/tiger/scripts/check_inetd, usr/lib/tiger/scripts/check_xinetd; resource-agents: usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/Xinetd |
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| 15:58.10 | RoyK | judd: file * |
| 15:58.16 | judd | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 15:58.20 | mtn | t4bme, if you have network manager running, overrules resolv.conf, so you have to make your changes in the network settings, upper right |
| 15:58.23 | RoyK | judd: file \* |
| 15:58.26 | judd | Search for \* in jessie/amd64: open-vm-tools-desktop: lib/systemd/system/run-vmblock\x2dfuse.mount |
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| 15:58.28 | linwiz | I have this udev rule that is executed (symilnk is created) but the command is not executed. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 15:58.39 | mtn | t4bme, I meant to say, it overrules |
| 15:58.39 | johnbristol | abrotman, thank you - I'll try to find out how to run openbsd-inetd on debian 8 |
| 15:59.44 | abrotman | johnbristol: install it, enable things .. profit? |
| 16:00.02 | t4bme | mtn: I thought it detected when it's not being used for an interface and stopped interfering with it? It already lists the network interfaces as unmanaged. |
| 16:00.10 | johnbristol | abrotman, I'll give it a try |
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| 16:00.22 | abrotman | johnbristol: FWIW, some perfer xinetd |
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| 16:01.03 | netstar_ | Hi I am using kernel 4.1.0-2-amd64 and I'm trying to load fglrx but it won't let me taint the kernel as the module uses a GPL-only symbol...can anyonw help? |
| 16:01.12 | abrotman | johnbristol: installing the fingerd should install an inetd |
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| 16:01.50 | cyphix | In my sources.list, I have this entry: 'deb http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy rpi' and I don't remember why I added it. Is there a way to list all packages that come from this source? |
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| 16:02.23 | johnbristol | abrotman, I'd thought it would install inetd too if it needed it but it wasn't installed. Which is why I was puzzled. |
| 16:02.23 | abrotman | cyphix: that's not a Debian repo .. how would we know? |
| 16:02.33 | abrotman | johnbristol: it did .. dpkg -l | grep inet |
| 16:03.12 | cyphix | abrotman: Given that raspbian is based on debian, there would be a common command to list all packages coming from a custom source. |
| 16:03.35 | cyphix | (that's what I assumed, but it might be wrong) |
| 16:03.38 | itt788 | I'm having three warning messages in aptitude saying "W: there is no public key available for the following key IDs: xx ...xx" while debian-archive-keyring is installed. I'm using debian wheezy for ppc |
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| 16:05.06 | p[i] | GNU |
| 16:05.13 | p[i] | ubuntu people hate GNU |
| 16:05.36 | itt788 | what? are you sure? |
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| 16:05.41 | p[i] | they trying to make GNU their turf |
| 16:05.50 | boxatom | Hi, I have installed debian 3 times.... the first time without success due to the lack of firmware, the second time good, but installed all desktops, and multiple partitions and it was a mess.... so i finally install it properly, with only kde...... restart my system, it starts correctly, begin tweaking it.... and restart the computer.... now it takes me to GNU Grub menu! :( |
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| 16:06.34 | p[i] | core utils that are essential to any OS are all GNU |
| 16:06.51 | smdrz | not able update sid ,(no new packages or upadate for last 24hr) |
| 16:07.21 | p[i] | ubutnu ops banned me just for trying to make that clear to them |
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| 16:07.38 | johnbristol | abrotman, the dpkg -l shows no inet version, just update-inetd and a lib |
| 16:08.04 | p[i] | i tought inetd was deprecated |
| 16:08.24 | boxatom | i dont like ubuntu |
| 16:08.37 | p[i] | why dont you like ubuntu? |
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| 16:09.05 | boxatom | unity desktop looks bad, and im not sure why so many people like it⦠|
| 16:09.37 | p[i] | install kubuntu |
| 16:09.54 | itt788 | ubuntu I think has benefitted the support os many private companies and they used their tricks to make it popular |
| 16:10.10 | itt788 | of many private companies |
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| 16:10.26 | p[i] | i think they are inflating the user count |
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| 16:10.57 | p[i] | most users @ #ubuntu are cloud bots |
| 16:11.03 | slikts | is there something I can install through apt-get to get a colored bash prompt? |
| 16:11.07 | boxatom | i feel like debian is better, more stable, and not trying just to be preaty |
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| 16:11.32 | abrotman | johnbristol: interesting .. okay |
| 16:11.47 | abrotman | p[i]: do you need help with Debian? |
| 16:11.53 | slikts | or is there a nice way to share configs between many machines? |
| 16:12.03 | p[i] | i dont what about you? |
| 16:12.06 | linwiz | p[i]: do you think there are actually 1600 people in here? I doubt it seriously. |
| 16:12.11 | slikts | I'm getting pretty sick of copying dotfiles around with scp |
| 16:12.11 | abrotman | p[i]: keep it ontopic, thank you |
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| 16:12.22 | abrotman | slikts: the actual configs, or a shared configuration management system? |
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| 16:12.34 | slikts | abrotman: things like .bashrc vimrc etc etc |
| 16:12.40 | abrotman | slikts: that doesn't answer my question |
| 16:12.43 | p[i] | 1600 persons?! |
| 16:12.50 | slikts | abrotman: system |
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| 16:13.06 | slikts | idk how you would see me asking for configs |
| 16:13.16 | abrotman | slikts: those are config files |
| 16:13.24 | slikts | really? |
| 16:13.31 | abrotman | slikts: do they share a common network? Can you NFS mount your $HOME? |
| 16:13.50 | slikts | err, I'd prefer to use sftp |
| 16:13.57 | p[i] | heh |
| 16:14.12 | abrotman | slikts: but you get the idea |
| 16:14.16 | slikts | the machines are all over the place |
| 16:14.34 | abrotman | slikts: you can have a script that would scp files from a central host upon login |
| 16:14.35 | korhojoa | slikts: just edit your .bashrc ? |
| 16:14.44 | boxatom | Why would my installation after finishing boot properly, and next to that just not boot and go to GNU Grub⦠It was showing a message of no boot order found |
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| 16:15.22 | korhojoa | boxatom: did you install something like sid? |
| 16:15.34 | slikts | korhojoa: edit it how? how is that relevant? the question is if there's a ready solution for distributing and updating common configs across machines |
| 16:15.45 | slikts | I find myself copying the configs manually all the tim |
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| 16:15.52 | slikts | and it doesn't scale |
| 16:15.57 | korhojoa | so shove it in default? |
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| 16:16.07 | slikts | korhojoa: what default??? |
| 16:16.17 | korhojoa | skel. |
| 16:16.31 | slikts | lol |
| 16:16.43 | slikts | that solves nothing at all |
| 16:17.09 | boxatom | I just installed with usb⦠prepared that usb with rufusâ¦. im not sure what sid is⦠|
| 16:17.19 | boxatom | software installation disk? :D |
| 16:17.58 | slikts | I need the configs on different machines, not on different users on the same machine |
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| 16:18.14 | korhojoa | boxatom: I meant what flavor, but apparently just plain stable |
| 16:18.35 | boxatom | oh yes, plain stable with kde⦠|
| 16:18.36 | mtn | boxatom, what is the exact error message? can you paste a screenshot or pic? put it on imgur.com |
| 16:18.46 | slikts | and then sync them across the machines |
| 16:19.13 | boxatom | ill get to you back in that one, let me upload it |
| 16:19.36 | korhojoa | slikts: that sounds like a rsync job |
| 16:19.39 | slikts | I used put configs in a git repo and then sync that and use symlinks, but it's kind of involved |
| 16:19.47 | slikts | korhojoa: are you trolling? |
| 16:19.58 | korhojoa | slikts: are you mad? |
| 16:20.02 | korhojoa | "bro" |
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| 16:20.46 | slikts | I take it as yes |
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| 16:22.44 | slikts | hmm, would be nice if a git repo could automatically push to clones |
| 16:23.12 | slikts | including natted ones |
| 16:23.54 | shay_shay | you mean excluding |
| 16:24.05 | slikts | no, including |
| 16:24.06 | linwiz | I have this udev rule that is executed (symilnk is created) but the command is not executed. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 16:24.12 | shay_shay | nope, you mean excluding |
| 16:24.45 | slikts | I mean including natted machines so that they automatically sync as soon as the master repo is uptaded |
| 16:24.56 | boxatom | mtn http://imgur.com/wB4Jvvb here is the screenshot |
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| 16:25.20 | shay_shay | is bad at trolling |
| 16:25.39 | slikts | reported |
| 16:26.02 | slikts | they'll take your troll license |
| 16:26.35 | mtn | boxatom, did you also install opensuse? |
| 16:26.57 | boxatom | i did previously, but didnt like it so went with debian |
| 16:27.21 | mtn | boxatom, looks like it is still charge of booting, or something. you should repair your grub. |
| 16:27.36 | mtn | boxatom, https://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover |
| 16:27.37 | boxatom | how could i repair the booting? |
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| 16:28.36 | mtn | boxatom, you can easily use the debian install disk to help recover grub. it has a rescue entry in the menu |
| 16:29.08 | boxatom | ok, thanks ill give that a try |
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| 16:29.26 | boxatom | the recover wont reinstall the complete sys⦠|
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| 16:30.12 | mtn | boxatom, no, you are just fixing/installing grub so it will boot correctly |
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| 16:31.29 | t4bme | I removed /etc/resolv.conf now it works. :-) I think the problem was that during installation I used a static IP, so the installer created a resolv.conf file with the dns server I specified at that time. But this caused resolvconf to stop working, resolvconf relies on symbolic links in /etc/resolv.conf . And /etc/network/interfaces relies on resolvconf to configure the system to use the dns servers specified there. |
| 16:31.35 | p[i] | dont mess your grub |
| 16:32.43 | p[i] | what do you mean removed? |
| 16:33.08 | p[i] | thats a system file |
| 16:33.16 | t4bme | p[i]: You mean me? I mean "rm /etc/resolv.conf". |
| 16:33.40 | t4bme | This solved my problem, I assume resolvconf will recreate it at some point. |
| 16:33.41 | p[i] | And /etc/network/interfaces relies on resolvconf to configure the system |
| 16:34.20 | p[i] | why not just edit it? |
| 16:34.27 | t4bme | p[i]: exactly, but resolvconf didn't work because /etc/resolv.conf was a regular file (created by the installer). |
| 16:34.47 | p[i] | thats a bug |
| 16:35.38 | t4bme | p[i]: I don't know, probably? Should I file a bug report somewhere? |
| 16:36.32 | t4bme | p[i]: I did specify that dns server during the installation, but the installer should have put that information into /etc/network/interfaces instead of /etc/resolv.conf I guess. |
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| 16:37.05 | t4bme | p[i]: Or I don't know where it should have specified that dns server, not in resolv.conf ideally. |
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| 16:38.50 | mtn | t4bme, you do know where, in network manager ;) |
| 16:39.36 | t4bme | mtn: Right. But I don't know where "network manager" is. I assume some other config file? |
| 16:39.55 | mtn | t4bme, I already told you. network settings, upper right in gnome |
| 16:40.38 | t4bme | mtn: The Debian installer won't click in the upper right corner to set up a dns server. :P Anyway, that menu wasn't there during installation. ;-) |
| 16:41.12 | mtn | t4bme, network manager is there now, fix it ;) |
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| 16:41.29 | itt788 | i have an html document which is initially a web page which I saved as a file using firefox, but when opening with a text editor it looks like a binary file. Moreover while I saved it as an html only document i was expecting it would contain no image but it actually does |
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| 16:42.30 | itt788 | I know it's bit off topic, but after trying to get some answers in #web and ##linux I got nothing |
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| 16:42.54 | t4bme | mtn: But I don't want to use it. It's disabled. My system now works like I want it to. The problem is that the Debian installer didn't configure it using network manager. |
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| 16:43.13 | mtn | t4bme, ok, good for you |
| 16:43.50 | p[i] | https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1123481999/remix-mini-the-worlds-first-true-android-pc?ref=popu... can it run debian? |
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| 16:44.05 | t4bme | mtn: If it had configured it using network manager then the interfaces file would have worked properly from the start, because those two work together just fine. |
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| 16:45.13 | abrotman | itt788: i'd probably ask #firefox, but I suspect you saved it as a "Complete" page |
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| 16:46.20 | p[i] | you should save as pdf |
| 16:47.52 | hexnewbie | itt788: Maybe it's the maff format, supported by a extension for Firefox/Iceweasel. |
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| 16:48.29 | hexnewbie | itt788: That's a zip, so if you don't want to install the extension, you can simply unzip it. Also run: file <filename> |
| 16:48.29 | p[ii] | filmsy connection |
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| 16:49.23 | abrotman | p[ii]: last warning, keep it on topic |
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| 16:57.53 | itt788 | hexnewbie: command "file" says it's data |
| 16:58.40 | itt788 | hexnewbie: unzip says it might not be a zip file |
| 16:58.50 | hexnewbie | itt788: That's not encouraging. |
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| 16:59.44 | hexnewbie | itt788: Does Firefox open it? |
| 17:00.31 | hexnewbie | itt788: Sounds like something corrupted the file, it saved a non-HTML page while saving, or it was manipulated otherwise. |
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| 17:01.21 | itt788 | hexnewbie: someone asked me the same thing a few seconds ago in #web |
| 17:01.40 | itt788 | it's not a corrupted file |
| 17:01.47 | hexnewbie | I tried to look up JavaScript ways to prevent a page from saving, unfortunately StackOverflow says âdon't botherâ. How unhelpful. |
| 17:01.53 | itt788 | I can open it either with ff or lynx |
| 17:02.48 | hexnewbie | itt788: Oh! OK. That explains it. Open the page source in Firefox. I bet it's a plain text file in some funny encoding (UTF-32, Shift-JIS or something) |
| 17:03.13 | hexnewbie | itt788: Er, I mean, click on view source, and check what the charset of the file is. |
| 17:03.27 | itt788 | yeah, it could be, let me see |
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| 17:04.09 | itt788 | ff says the encoding is UTF-16LE |
| 17:04.58 | hexnewbie | itt788: UTF-16 looks binar-ish in a text editor that doesn't recognise it as UTF-16, but even then, you should be able to see the letters. |
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| 17:05.33 | hexnewbie | itt788: The latin letters of the HTML tags, at least. Tell your editor to switch to UTF-16, UTF-16LE and see if that fixes it |
| 17:05.54 | p[ii] | maybe its emoticons |
| 17:05.55 | p[ii] | . |
| 17:05.58 | itt788 | hexnewbie: yes I can see some letters |
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| 17:06.26 | p[ii] | theres an emoticon for bacon now |
| 17:06.43 | itt788 | in fact it seemed to me that the letters in the words were all separated with unrecognised characters |
| 17:07.22 | hexnewbie | itt788: Those are not unrecognised characters, those are zero bytes. "a" is encoded as "\0a" or "a\0" depending on whether it's LE or BE. |
| 17:07.30 | itt788 | I first though it's a special format to mix text and images so that users cannot edit the page to remove the ad images |
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| 17:08.10 | hexnewbie | itt788: What editor do you use? |
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| 17:08.47 | itt788 | I tried emacs, vim, nano, mousepad |
| 17:09.20 | p[ii] | but you didnt try joe |
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| 17:09.47 | blah- | how to copy paste using terminal? |
| 17:10.05 | blah- | i'm copying some files from msword |
| 17:10.11 | blah- | i'm using virtual box btw |
| 17:10.24 | itt788 | p[ii]: what's so special with joe |
| 17:10.52 | p[ii] | just another option |
| 17:10.57 | therealfibonacci | ctrl+shift+v |
| 17:11.12 | therealfibonacci | ctrl+shift+c |
| 17:11.32 | blah- | <therealfibonacci> ctrl+shift+c --> copy? |
| 17:11.38 | hexnewbie | itt788: Well, I can't seem to get vim to open an UTF-16LE file, but kwrite does it like a charm. |
| 17:11.38 | therealfibonacci | yep m8 |
| 17:11.41 | blah- | <therealfibonacci> ctrl+shift+v --> paste |
| 17:11.52 | therealfibonacci | blah-: ye |
| 17:12.02 | itt788 | hexnewbie: i don't have kwrite |
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| 17:12.07 | blah- | i tried already therealfibonacci |
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| 17:12.17 | blah- | but still i cannot copy the text |
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| 17:12.44 | blah- | i wanted to copy some text from microsfot word to my terminal using virtual box |
| 17:12.53 | zykotick9 | blah-: try highlighting the text (leave it highlighted) then middle mouse click to paste (or shift+INS without mouse) |
| 17:13.01 | itt788 | libreoffice writer is similar to the other editors i tried |
| 17:13.13 | blah- | wait |
| 17:13.15 | blah- | i will try. |
| 17:13.44 | somiaj | blah-: you might need some virtuial box guest module or something loaded in the guest to make it able to access the clipboard of the host. |
| 17:14.08 | blah- | somia how? |
| 17:14.36 | hexnewbie | itt788: Putting `set fileencodings=utf16le' in .vimrc is the only way to force vim to stop resisting me in opening the file properly. |
| 17:14.44 | hexnewbie | itt788: You may try that. |
| 17:14.50 | somiaj | blah-: I'm unsure exactly. I have only done it the other way around instaling guest drivers in windows. |
| 17:14.57 | itt788 | let me see |
| 17:15.17 | hexnewbie | itt788: But you'll have to edit it back with another editor :) |
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| 17:15.34 | somiaj | blah-: but I do see a package called virtualbox-guest-dkms, so that should create the guest module for your debian guest provided you have the correct linux-headers installed. |
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| 17:15.53 | blah- | ahhhh |
| 17:15.58 | somiaj | blah-: might also need virtualbox-guest-x11 to get the x11 integration with the clipboard |
| 17:16.19 | blah- | honestly, there is an error something like that during my installation but i just ignore it and click MO |
| 17:16.22 | blah- | NO* |
| 17:16.32 | hexnewbie | itt788: Err, you could just run that command in vim *before* opening the file |
| 17:16.34 | blah- | then the installation is almost finish |
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| 17:17.00 | hexnewbie | itt788: No need to put it in the vim rc. You can switch the encoding after you've opened the file, sadly |
| 17:17.04 | itt788 | hexnewbie: that's right with the option you mentionned it works nicely |
| 17:17.07 | hexnewbie | itt788: s/can/can't/ |
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| 17:17.38 | p[ii] | anyone in here play armyops 2.5 linux version? |
| 17:17.44 | hexnewbie | itt788: Yeah. But don't leave such thing in .vimrc, else you won't be able to edit normal files :) |
| 17:17.59 | blah- | thanks somiaj |
| 17:18.00 | blah- | thanks somia |
| 17:18.25 | itt788 | editing back .vimrc gives some CJK looking fonts |
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| 17:22.38 | p[ii] | what is cloudflare? |
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| 17:22.48 | illy | www.cloudflare.org |
| 17:22.53 | p[ii] | yes |
| 17:23.07 | xand | read the website and find out. |
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| 17:23.17 | xand | nothing to do with debian :P |
| 17:23.18 | p[ii] | why im i seeing this page with out ever wanting to go there? |
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| 17:23.23 | xand | ... |
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| 17:23.44 | xand | seeing it where? |
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| 17:23.50 | hexnewbie | A way to reduce the traffic to your server at the expense of the privacy of your users. |
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| 17:24.22 | p[ii] | im not running ny servers |
| 17:24.23 | xand | cloudflare is basically a CDN |
| 17:24.42 | jelly | p[ii]: cloudflare is a CDN and hosts lots of well-known web sites |
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| 17:25.39 | p[ii] | one CDN to rule them all and with fire bind them |
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| 17:32.42 | ni291187 | hello all |
| 17:33.25 | asterismo | hi |
| 17:33.44 | asterismo | i'm trying to make diaspora server start through init script |
| 17:33.50 | asterismo | and wrote some code |
| 17:34.09 | linwiz | I have this udev rule that is executed (symilnk is created) but the command is not executed. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 17:34.23 | asterismo | but when issuing /etc/init.d/diaspora start command, although the server starts, it does not give back the command prompt |
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| 18:11.51 | t4bme | So this is the first time I'm running actual Debian and not some derivate. I know that Iceweasel is in principle Firefox. Are there any downsides to that masquarade? Can I get rid of that masquarade somehow, get a real Firefox? |
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| 18:12.07 | t4bme | Xom |
| 18:12.19 | t4bme | Ooops, sorry. -.- Some repo to activate? |
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| 18:13.53 | jelly | t4bme: there's no repo to get firefox from, no. You can get Mozilla's own build but it doesn't integrate into the system as nicely |
| 18:13.58 | slikts | you will use iceweasel and you will love it |
| 18:14.22 | slikts | can't ubuntu repos be used maybe? |
| 18:14.24 | slikts | just a thought |
| 18:14.29 | t4bme | slikts: *salutes* Yes sir. |
| 18:14.34 | jelly | slikts: nope |
| 18:14.44 | slikts | jelly: for ideological or for practical reasons? |
| 18:14.50 | jelly | both |
| 18:15.06 | jelly | but mostly you'd create an unsupportable mess that way |
| 18:15.20 | slikts | t4bme: you heard him |
| 18:15.23 | slikts | go use pc-bsd |
| 18:15.34 | slikts | I'm actually super cereal |
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| 18:16.14 | slikts | I use debian for everything except desktop |
| 18:16.20 | jelly | slikts: using some obscure OS won't help this particular issue |
| 18:16.27 | slikts | jelly: heh, obscure |
| 18:16.34 | t4bme | Yes, won't try *that* any time soon. I'm mostly practical, I don't really care how it's branded but it looks like it's already an older version. Will this become older and older? |
| 18:16.38 | jmcnaught | asterismo: if you're on Jessie why not make a .service unit file instead of an init script? |
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| 18:16.57 | slikts | jelly: it won't help the symptoms, but it would cure the cause |
| 18:16.58 | jelly | t4bme: debian stable tracks the Firefox ESR builds |
| 18:17.15 | t4bme | jelly: Okay, sounds good enough, thanks. |
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| 18:17.41 | jelly | if you want the release tree instead of 38 ESR for the next ~year or so, |
| 18:17.43 | jelly | !mdn |
| 18:17.44 | dpkg | For stable releases, newer versions of Iceweasel, Icedove and Iceape can be found at http://mozilla.debian.net/ ; you will want the "release" repository. For users of testing and unstable, updated packages are normally in <experimental>; only Extended Support Release (ESR) versions are suitable for release in <stable> so only those versions can be uploaded to unstable. |
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| 18:19.44 | invlpg[1] | if i apt-get remove a package, then said yes immediately and pressed ctrl-c or ctrl-z. how can i revert back the changes? so it does not remove the package? |
| 18:19.55 | invlpg[1] | or what damage has been done? |
| 18:21.47 | nkuttler | invlpg[1]: apt-get install it? |
| 18:21.48 | jelly | invlpg[1]: apt-get install it back, in case apt remembers you don't want it installed |
| 18:22.16 | jelly | invlpg[1]: however, if you merely suspended the process with ^Z that won't work |
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| 18:23.56 | invlpg[1] | jelly/nkuttler, but would the packagfe scripts know to handle this correctly? if it hadn't manage to succeed removing all, would not the package installation be doing redundant things? |
| 18:24.07 | invlpg[1] | or you assume the package supposed to handle this kind of things |
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| 18:24.16 | t4bme | jelly: Thanks. For as long as it works with my favorite extensions and stuff like that I perfectly fine with a slightly older version. If something breaks I'll use that update path |
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| 18:24.49 | BotchIa | Hey faggots! :) |
| 18:24.56 | BotchIa | TROLOLOLOL |
| 18:24.57 | BotchIa | MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM |
| 18:24.59 | BotchIa | YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH\ |
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| 18:25.26 | korhojoa | neat. it's not a kick, it's a forced leave? |
| 18:26.16 | jelly | REMOVE is some ircd-seven thing, equivalent to a kick but more passive-aggressive |
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| 18:27.00 | nnull | golf claps |
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| 18:27.42 | miskatonic | will Stretch already drop X11 in favour of Wayland? |
| 18:28.00 | jelly | miskatonic: that... seems unlikely |
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| 18:33.04 | Abbott | My $LANG is never set whenever I ssh into my machine. I can manually set it to UTF8 with `export LANG=en_US.UTF-8` and then filenames start showing up correctly but if i don't do that the text shows up all garbled. Is there some way I can fix this? |
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| 18:34.33 | petn-randall | Abbott: $LANG should be set via ssh from your client, unless you configured it not to pass it along. If that is the case, it should fall back to the system default, which you can configure with 'dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales'. |
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| 18:38.48 | Abbott | I configured PuTTY to use UTF-8 by selecting it under "Remote character set" under Window > Translation. Is there more I have to do than that? |
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| 18:39.38 | Abbott | I also ran `dpkg-reconfigure locales` earlier and selected en_US.UTF-8 as default, logged out, then logged back in but it still wasn't setting $LANG (but that wouldn't be surprising if PuTTy is configured incorrectly) |
| 18:40.49 | jelly | Abbott: that setting is to tell putty how to interpret incoming byte stream |
| 18:41.05 | Abbott | oh |
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| 18:41.31 | jelly | Abbott: if you want to set environment variables, they're under Connection -> Data |
| 18:41.53 | miskatonic | why would setting the locale in the user's bash_profile file not work? |
| 18:42.13 | xand | putty's always just worked for me, other than changing it to utf8 |
| 18:42.50 | Abbott | setting the environmental variable in putty worked! thank you! |
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| 18:54.54 | rdz | hey all. when i delete a file that is appended to by some running processes, is there a way in ext4 to recover that file? |
| 18:55.11 | rdz | the inode most likely is still there. |
| 18:55.40 | phy1729 | maybe lsof? |
| 18:55.59 | linwiz | I have this udev rule that is executed (symilnk is created) but the command is not executed. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 18:56.15 | hexnewbie | rdz: read it from /proc/<pid>/fds/<fd> |
| 18:56.50 | hexnewbie | rdz: There would be a symlink to the deleted file, but reading it will produce its contents nevertheless. |
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| 18:57.26 | hexnewbie | rdz: Er, sorry, it's "fd", not "fds" |
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| 18:57.50 | rdz | hexnewbie, great.. i'll try that. many thansk |
| 18:57.53 | rdz | *thanks |
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| 19:01.22 | rdz | hexnewbie, it seems that the symlink in /proc/<pid>/fd/6 is simply a broken symlink, too |
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| 19:01.53 | invlpg[1] | so when pressing ctrl-c during apt-get remove, after it started removing and before it finished, i cannot revert back the changes? |
| 19:02.06 | invlpg[1] | only apt-get install the package again? |
| 19:02.08 | xand | install it again |
| 19:02.12 | hexnewbie | rdz: cat it! |
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| 19:02.17 | xand | it doesn't usually remove the config files, invlpg[1] |
| 19:02.21 | xand | unless you --purge |
| 19:02.30 | invlpg[1] | and also - why is when im removing some package that depends on another package |
| 19:02.42 | hexnewbie | rdz: cat /proc/<pid>/fd/6 # what does it say? |
| 19:02.42 | rdz | hexnewbie, it works! thanks |
| 19:02.44 | invlpg[1] | it tries to remove the depended package? |
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| 19:03.11 | hexnewbie | rdz: cp (with no options) should work on it too |
| 19:03.16 | invlpg[1] | i mean..i have a package that sl depends on. when removing sl, it says that it has to remove the main package also |
| 19:03.25 | jelly | invlpg[1]: some (in theory, most) dependencies are automatically installed and apt knows when they're not needed any more |
| 19:03.56 | jelly | invlpg[1]: can you show what really happened? |
| 19:04.09 | jelly | !bat |
| 19:04.10 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 19:04.47 | invlpg[1] | jelly, i have a package that depends on a lot of packages and contain many file..among the packages it depends on, it depends on sl |
| 19:05.03 | jelly | okay...? |
| 19:05.05 | invlpg[1] | when removing sl, it says that it has to remove also the main package aswell if you want to remove sl and i don't see why |
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| 19:05.14 | asterismo | jmcnaught: don't know how to do that |
| 19:05.50 | jelly | invlpg[1]: can you show the actual output and other commands that dpkg asked about? |
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| 19:07.07 | jelly | invlpg[1]: if a Depends: b, dependencies of 'a' cannot be satisfied if 'b' is removed, so apt removes 'a' to get toa consistent state |
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| 19:07.32 | invlpg[1] | jelly, oh okay |
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| 19:07.51 | invlpg[1] | jelly, is there a workaround for this? i mean, if i want a package to be installed with my package |
| 19:08.04 | invlpg[1] | jelly, but not to be depended on it? just make it install it aswell along with my package? |
| 19:09.03 | jelly | invlpg[1]: could you show the actual output please? |
| 19:09.16 | invlpg[1] | of what? :P |
| 19:09.31 | xand | when you install them, type both package names e.g. apt-get install x y |
| 19:09.39 | invlpg[1] | i mean, im building a package and i want another package to be installed if im installing my package but i don't want my package to be dependent on it |
| 19:09.49 | jelly | invlpg[1]: of your removal attempt, and of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy main-package sl" |
| 19:09.54 | invlpg[1] | xand, ah |
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| 19:10.09 | xand | but that doesn't really make sense |
| 19:10.25 | invlpg[1] | ah okay |
| 19:10.30 | jelly | invlpg[1]: and while you're at it "apt-cache show main-package" or "dpkg -s maiu-package" |
| 19:10.30 | xand | you can make things "suggested" instead of dependencies I think |
| 19:10.49 | jelly | Suggests: don't get installed automatically |
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| 19:10.55 | jelly | Recommends: do |
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| 19:11.58 | jelly | but it'd be nice to see what invlpg[1] is doing, first |
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| 19:12.08 | invlpg[1] | okay, hold on |
| 19:12.41 | invlpg[1] | i created a deb package with dependencies. how can i install it so dpkg also resolves the dependecies? i mean, when i dpkg -i it says that it depends on sl but it is not installed |
| 19:13.01 | invlpg[1] | how do i urge it to install dependencies? specific dpkg flag? |
| 19:13.15 | xand | no, they are installed by default |
| 19:13.21 | xand | hence the name |
| 19:13.53 | jmcnaught | asterismo: systemd unit files are a lot easier to create than init scripts. systemd.unit(5) and systemd.service(5) will get you started, also this blog entry: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/systemd-for-admins-3.html |
| 19:13.59 | invlpg[1] | hm, xand but dpkg says: dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of mypkg:i386: mypkg:i386 depends on sl. |
| 19:14.46 | jelly | invlpg[1]: show the actual output, please |
| 19:14.52 | asterismo | thanks jmcnaught, reading it now |
| 19:16.16 | invlpg[1] | http://pastebin.com/xFf9dFw5 |
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| 19:16.35 | xand | you're using dpkg, use apt-get install instead |
| 19:16.45 | xand | dpkg doesn't do dependencies |
| 19:16.46 | dpkg | xand: i haven't a clue |
| 19:16.51 | xand | dpkg: no. |
| 19:16.51 | dpkg | No Offense, or den norske debian kanalen #debian-no. For skandinaviske brukere av debian. It is the norwegian channel #debian-no for scandinavian users. |
| 19:17.56 | invlpg[1] | why is it saying that it is installed? |
| 19:18.11 | jelly | invlpg[1]: if you're installing manually with dpkg -i ..., run "apt-get -f install" to make apt figure out how to fix the dependencies and get to a consistent state |
| 19:18.34 | invlpg[1] | aha, okay. also, when removing it says: dpkg: warning: while removing nivpkg:i386, directory '/usr/local/bin' not empty so not removed |
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| 19:18.54 | invlpg[1] | in my package i place a file in /usr/local/bin but why would it want to remove the directory and place a warning? |
| 19:18.59 | xand | invlpg[1]: it would say "install ok installed" for installed properly |
| 19:19.06 | xand | (next to Status) |
| 19:19.18 | invlpg[1] | ah. so what's install ok? lol |
| 19:19.20 | xand | packages aren't meant to put things in /usr/local/bin, AFAIK |
| 19:19.29 | xand | or /usr/local at all |
| 19:19.29 | jelly | invlpg[1]: look at the contents of your package, you'll find out the directory tree required for all the files is there, too |
| 19:19.31 | invlpg[1] | so what is supposed to? |
| 19:19.43 | xand | things not managed by packages e.g. manually installed programs |
| 19:19.47 | invlpg[1] | i mean, to put files in /usr/local/bin |
| 19:19.50 | invlpg[1] | ah |
| 19:19.52 | invlpg[1] | okay |
| 19:19.54 | invlpg[1] | thanks guys! |
| 19:20.02 | xand | like a script you wrote but didn't package cos you only use it there |
| 19:20.12 | invlpg[1] | hmm. that's a deb file. how can i install it with apt-get? |
| 19:20.24 | jelly | !own repo |
| 19:20.25 | dpkg | To feed your own packages into apt, you need to create a repository with a Packages file that lists the packages. If you only have a few packages and don't have very sophisticated requirements, you can use <dpkg-scanpackages>. If you want to be able add/remove packages using regular Debian tools like dput then try <reprepro> or mini-dinstall. See http://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
| 19:20.27 | jelly | invlpg[1]: ^^ |
| 19:20.47 | in1t3r | o/ |
| 19:20.49 | invlpg[1] | thanks |
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| 19:24.11 | rotzbouw | hi. a seemingly harmless dist-upgrade on my laptop (testing distribution) wrecked my network configurations. all interfaces except 'lo' have disappeared. what am I missing? the dist-upgrade removed two unrelated packages (task-kde-desktop and libkdb5-7) |
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| 19:24.40 | invlpg[1] | jelly, i ran dpkg-scanpackages and it wrote 0 entries to a Package file. i don't see any package file here |
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| 19:27.06 | jelly | invlpg[1]: read /msg dpkg dpkg-scanpackages |
| 19:27.31 | jelly | if you want to do it that way |
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| 19:29.03 | note1989 | Hi everytime i do a apt-get upgrade and reboot startx doesent work anymore and i have to reset my computer with rsync |
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| 19:29.22 | note1989 | any strategy of trying to find out what packet it is that is causing this |
| 19:29.25 | note1989 | and what it does |
| 19:30.04 | jelly | note1989: what does "reset my computer with rsync" mean? |
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| 19:30.31 | cra1g321 | ^ that |
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| 19:31.24 | note1989 | i mean that i tried for a couple of days to fix startx without any luck with the help of this channel and #radeon but in the end i just did a reset of all bins/libs with a old rsync backup |
| 19:31.33 | note1989 | means* |
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| 19:32.27 | note1989 | so now i would like to learn how i trackdown what changes to X11 will take place in the upgrade im doing |
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| 19:34.19 | jelly | note1989: oh, so you restored the whole system. Which debian release are you using? |
| 19:34.53 | DoctorD90 | !grub1 |
| 19:34.54 | dpkg | GNU GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) 0.9x (aka GRUB Legacy) is a powerful boot loader which can boot many OSes and understands many filesystems. To install: «aptitude install grub-legacy grub-legacy-doc». To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. To migrate from LILO, ask about <lilo->grub>. See also <grub legacy errors>, <grub2>, <supergrub>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
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| 19:35.21 | DoctorD90 | !supergrub |
| 19:35.21 | dpkg | Super Grub Disk and Super Grub2 Disk are forks of <GRUB Legacy> and <GRUB2> respectively, which can be used to repair existing GNU GRUB installations. http://www.supergrubdisk.org/ See also <fixmbr>. |
| 19:35.29 | jelly | DoctorD90: you can use "/msg dpkg grub1" to ask the bot about stuff in private |
| 19:35.59 | DoctorD90 | jelly it works on private? a great! so i havent to spam :) great :) thx |
| 19:36.24 | DoctorD90 | !tell DoctorD90 about grub2 |
| 19:36.31 | jelly | really? |
| 19:37.05 | note1989 | jelly: im running 8.1 |
| 19:37.06 | jelly | use /msg instead, don't !tell yourself about ... |
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| 19:38.15 | Kathgrar | . |
| 19:38.17 | Kathgrar | Can you read me? |
| 19:38.29 | jelly | note1989: that's the stable release, shouldn't break horribly on its own. pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" (use http://paste.debian.net)? |
| 19:38.37 | GenteelBen | Wow I've not seen a bot which maintains a channel user limit since like 2004. |
| 19:38.38 | jelly | Kathgrar: yes |
| 19:39.09 | Kathgrar | Ok nice, i was not able to write here |
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| 19:39.25 | Kathgrar | How can I see the WLAN speed using the command line? |
| 19:40.58 | note1989 | jelly: side question, how do i pipe apt-cache policy ? |
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| 19:41.27 | DoctorD90 | yes jelly, i had understood :P it was to not open manually query from phone xD ....a faster method xD |
| 19:42.22 | note1989 | https://paste.debian.net/309726/ |
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| 19:42.49 | DoctorD90 | btw, anyone knows about issue with lxc and jessie? |
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| 19:43.17 | DoctorD90 | i have read that it is some issue....i would better underatand the issue |
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| 19:44.25 | shay_shay | uh something to do with lxc and systemd |
| 19:44.34 | shay_shay | basically systemd growing pains |
| 19:44.55 | shay_shay | i couldnt get lxc to work on jessie |
| 19:45.09 | jmcnaught | DoctorD90: there are some notes about LXC in the Jessie release notes, is that what you mean? |
| 19:45.16 | Kathgrar | There are issues with booting and using LXC container with systemd, if you want/need to run LXC; install SysVInit after a clean install of jessie |
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| 19:45.24 | shay_shay | ^ |
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| 19:49.16 | DoctorD90 | 1.i looked for some web explaination about that kind of.issue |
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| 19:49.29 | Kathgrar | shay_shay, jmcnaught: see #766216 |
| 19:49.31 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/766216 in lxc (closed, pending, patch): «lxc: can't access console or stop a jessie container running systemd as PID 1»; severity: important; opened: 2014-10-21; last modified: 2015-01-28. |
| 19:49.42 | DoctorD90 | 2.i get.this kind of explaination from Kathgrar xD ao mamy thx xD |
| 19:49.43 | note1989 | jelly: https://paste.debian.net/309726/ |
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| 19:51.21 | DoctorD90 | Kathgrar: may i ask 'what do you mean"? replace systemd/install too sysvinit , in my machine, or in lxc? |
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| 19:52.08 | DoctorD90 | and in any case, what are differences.between systemd and sysvinit? |
| 19:52.33 | Kathgrar | DoctorD90: After a clean install of jessie or after a upgrade of jessie, you've systemd. AFAIK systemd isn't supported for a LXC host and container. Install SysVInit (the classic old-style init.d) in the host and container if it's >= jessie |
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| 19:54.22 | DoctorD90 | ah ok. deeply understood now :) but differences? between systemd and sysvinit? |
| 19:54.35 | jmcnaught | Kathgrar: DoctorD90: shay_shay: that bug has been fixed no? I use systemd+LXC with no problems on Jessie. There are some instructions in the Jessie release notes on the order to do things if you are upgrading a system with LXC containers |
| 19:54.38 | DoctorD90 | what systemd has that sysvinit would have? |
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| 19:55.25 | jmcnaught | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#lxc-upgrade-issues |
| 19:55.26 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught: ? may you link me these steps that you have followed? |
| 19:55.38 | DoctorD90 | (you read my mind) |
| 19:56.18 | shay_shay | jmcnaught: i guess it's time i try it again |
| 19:56.23 | jmcnaught | DoctorD90: i didn't do anything special, however this computer is a fresh install of Jessie. I have not yet had to upgrade a wheezy system with LXC controllers |
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| 19:57.23 | jmcnaught | the one thing i could not get working yet with LXC in Jessie i unprivileged containers |
| 19:57.34 | Kathgrar | DoctorD90: http://linuxide.com/linux-command/systemd-vs-sysvinit-cheatsheet/ |
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| 19:58.43 | shay_shay | jmcnaught: i was trying to do unprivileged |
| 19:58.54 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught: what do you mean? |
| 19:59.13 | DoctorD90 | run app like.root, or it.force.to be always root? |
| 20:00.09 | jmcnaught | DoctorD90: i mean regular users can start containers, i should check my notes I think i was having trouble with cgroups |
| 20:01.30 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught: lxc (before) may be runned only from root user? |
| 20:01.49 | DoctorD90 | thx Kathgrar |
| 20:02.15 | rotzbouw | can someone guide bringing my wireless interface back up after a dist-upgrade? I can't figure out what's wrong.. ifup wlan0 just states that it fails bringing up wlan0 and that wpa_supplicant_daemon failed to start |
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| 20:02.48 | shay_shay | jmcnaught: I was experiencing the same thing something to do with cgroups and I think I did several days of research trying to find a workaround. if there's anybody who can get it to work, it's not me |
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| 20:03.20 | shay_shay | and I decided to continue using vm's until it got better. for my purposes they're basically interchangeable |
| 20:04.07 | jmcnaught | DoctorD90: shay_shay:unprivileged LXC is relatively new, and it looks like Jessie doesn't support it out of the box. For now I have an lxc VM that runs all my containers |
| 20:04.08 | DoctorD90 | jmcnaught: i have to purchase a new pc, on which finally i will install.only linux, but i need to create some virtualized env to run securelly some software linux....i would be sure about security without create real.vm with vortualbox...so it is my first time.with lxc |
| 20:05.07 | DoctorD90 | but the only issue is that a non root user may start a lxc? |
| 20:05.25 | DoctorD90 | so if pc is only mine, isnt a *real* issue for me... |
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| 20:06.07 | shay_shay | a non root user can't start it. it's just annoying but I suppose you can configure the command in sudoers file |
| 20:06.24 | shay_shay | so you don't keep having to type a password for it |
| 20:07.02 | DoctorD90 | ok, so what is the issie with lxc in jessie aboutrunning without unprivileged acount? |
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| 20:08.08 | jmcnaught | DoctorD90: to get unprivileged LXC working in Jessie there are some additional cgroups related steps that need to be done that I haven't quite figured out yet, it doesn't "just work" |
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| 20:09.14 | DoctorD90 | ahh |
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| 20:09.33 | DoctorD90 | so is a 'bug' just for some.particullary case of.settings...great |
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| 20:10.34 | DoctorD90 | sometimes i run codes/binary that i dont know origins...so instead to create VirtualBox env, installing entirelly software lxc is the best solution for me |
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| 20:20.16 | jelly | DoctorD90: lxc has very little isolation at present time, basically not to be trusted for security |
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| 20:23.00 | Kathgrar | DoctorD90, jelly: Breaking out of a LXC container is not really hard |
| 20:23.32 | jmcnaught | shay_shay: my notes on unprivileged LXC mention that I was going to try using cgmanager, but I didn't get around to that yet |
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| 20:24.48 | jelly | Kathgrar: that's what I just said |
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| 20:33.04 | DoctorD90 | jelly Kathgrar ?? so what do you suggest? |
| 20:33.53 | jelly | DoctorD90: if you can't use a separate machine, full vm is a little bit better than containers. |
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| 20:34.27 | CtrlC | What happened to ffmpeg in the official repos? |
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| 20:34.41 | Kathgrar | jelly: I would use xen if you don't really need graphics and a little bit more. Just only for testing scripts etc. If you need graphics, sounds, etc, i would use VirtualBox or QEMU/KVM |
| 20:34.46 | Kathgrar | DoctorD90: ^ |
| 20:35.04 | bazhang | ,v libav-tools |
| 20:35.05 | judd | Package: libav-tools on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 6:11.3-1+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 6:11.4-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 6:11.4-1~deb8u1; stretch: 6:11.4-2; sid: 7:2.7.2-2; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: |
| 20:35.06 | judd | 10:2.6.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.7.2-dmo2 |
| 20:35.19 | markybob | CtrlC, nothing. https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=ffmpeg |
| 20:35.31 | jelly | that's libav. ffmpeg is back in testing, unstable |
| 20:35.50 | CtrlC | markybob: I have stable version. |
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| 20:36.42 | jelly | CtrlC: you can try to backport the version from testing |
| 20:36.43 | redspl^GG | hi guys |
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| 20:36.50 | jelly | judd: checkbackport ffmpeg |
| 20:36.53 | redspl^GG | i have a problem |
| 20:36.56 | judd | Backporting package ffmpeg in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libx265-dev [!alpha]. |
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| 20:37.08 | jelly | judd: checkbackport libx265-dev |
| 20:37.09 | judd | Backporting package libx265-dev in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 20:37.15 | DoctorD90 | jelly Kathgrar i need to run sometimes some software with a graphic...but not like cad or other....mayybe i'd like to get support of use graphic card as computing cpu....so lxc isnt god about security? :( |
| 20:37.27 | CtrlC | jelly: I guess that would suck. |
| 20:37.29 | redspl^GG | i want to share internet connection from mine laptop OR raspberry pi to mine retro machines: Panasonic CF-25 and/or Amiga 600 |
| 20:37.34 | redspl^GG | over serial |
| 20:37.45 | redspl^GG | i could not get any solve on the net |
| 20:37.59 | CtrlC | I'm trying avconv |
| 20:38.11 | redspl^GG | help! :) |
| 20:38.38 | Kathgrar | DoctorD90: If you need graphics, sounds, etc, VirtualBox and/or QEMU/KVM is nice. LXC doesn't have a good security mechanism. |
| 20:39.04 | jelly | redspl^GG: you'll want to use a ppp client on the client, and pppd on the server to provide tcp/ip over a serial line |
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| 20:39.41 | DoctorD90 | Katharsis sounds probably not...i just need to run software that has a graphic interface, or at least run software that may need of use of gpu like cpu |
| 20:39.41 | jelly | redspl^GG: probably easier to find an ethernet card for the amiga. No idea about that other machine |
| 20:39.50 | welpo | I log in to my debian system, I get 'You have new mail'. I type 'mail' and mail: command not found. Same with sudo mail. What should I do? |
| 20:39.55 | DoctorD90 | this is my need...but i would be sure about security :( |
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| 20:40.32 | DoctorD90 | from what i know docker is restricted to just at the app....so i dont think it is good enough |
| 20:40.33 | hassoon | how to run scripts/executable files made foe i386 arch, in my amd64 debian ? :o |
| 20:40.40 | hassoon | or programss |
| 20:40.43 | hassoon | *programs |
| 20:40.55 | hassoon | i'm ot talking about adding the i386 support in dpkg |
| 20:40.56 | DoctorD90 | i would use chroot, but running graphic inteface....i think is more secure a lxc at that level :P |
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| 20:40.59 | Kathgrar | DoctorD90: You can enable/disable sounds in VirtualBox and QEMU/KVM at any time :) AFAIK LXC only provides test-mode containers .. |
| 20:41.00 | hassoon | i'm not * |
| 20:41.19 | Kathgrar | * text-mode |
| 20:41.25 | hassoon | i mean external third-party programs installed through dpkg or just extracted executable programs |
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| 20:41.49 | DoctorD90 | Kathgrar atm on windows i run virtual box...but i hate to use 10mega of ram in rality, and system run 512mega (just to be an example) |
| 20:42.09 | DoctorD90 | 0o only text mode??? 0o really? |
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| 20:42.15 | jelly | dpkg, tell hassoon about multiarch |
| 20:42.17 | DoctorD90 | omg .-. i didnt know that |
| 20:42.38 | hassoon | jelly: not that, i have added the i386 support already |
| 20:43.01 | Kathgrar | DoctorD90: as far as i know ... this can be a lie, but I never seen a LXC container with graphics/GUI :P |
| 20:43.05 | jelly | hassoon: you'll have to be more specific then |
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| 20:43.30 | Kathgrar | LXM is like OpenVZ and Virtuozzo (commercial) |
| 20:43.36 | Kathgrar | * LXC |
| 20:43.55 | redspl^GG | jelly: yep, finding ethernet card for amiga and panasonic would be much much easier, but i want that ppp |
| 20:44.03 | hassoon | jelly: wait, let me redo the whole thing |
| 20:44.09 | DoctorD90 | T_T |
| 20:44.15 | redspl^GG | jelly: tried to set up it. no win... |
| 20:44.43 | DoctorD90 | Kathgrar and for a "secure" env, that run linux, but without run out useless surces like virtualbox/vmware do... ? some suggestions? |
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| 20:45.37 | hassoon | jelly: what happens is when i run any of the said installed programs, i get, <path-to-said-file>: No such file or directory |
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| 20:47.27 | jelly | hassoon: that means you didn't actually install any of i386 libraries |
| 20:47.43 | hassoon | jelly: ah, there are libraries that i have to install too ? |
| 20:47.46 | jelly | hassoon: what does "file path-to-said-file" say? |
| 20:48.16 | redspl^GG | jelly could you help me somehow? :) |
| 20:48.50 | hassoon | jelly: forexample for this 'Littre' file in ~/Documents, file gives me: 'Littre: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped' |
| 20:49.17 | jelly | redspl^GG: could? yes. Willing to? No, investigate ppp on your own first. |
| 20:49.34 | redspl^GG | tried.. |
| 20:49.46 | redspl^GG | i was getting errors like "Disconnected" |
| 20:49.53 | redspl^GG | w95 tried to authenticate somehow |
| 20:49.57 | TomasCZ | Kathgrar, DoctorD90 of course you can run GUI in docker, with some wrapping around, by let's say starting xdm, and having Xservers listing a couple of Xvnc |
| 20:49.59 | redspl^GG | even when i disabled it |
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| 20:50.02 | redspl^GG | with noauth |
| 20:50.17 | redspl^GG | btw, passwords and logins on linux and on w95 are the same |
| 20:50.36 | TomasCZ | Kathgrar, DoctorD90 the only problem last time I had was chrome whining, cuz it want's to use similar features |
| 20:51.03 | jelly | hassoon: install libc6:i386 for a start, then do "ldd ~/Documents/Littre" to see what other libraries are missing |
| 20:51.12 | DoctorD90 | TomasCZ and in way you described, is able in lxc to use gpu as cpu for computation as example? |
| 20:51.21 | hassoon | jelly: Right away. |
| 20:51.52 | redspl^GG | i was able to get connection over tcpser, but telnet bbs isn't something that i wanned |
| 20:52.02 | TomasCZ | DoctorD90, oke, uou ein on that one. But running simple GUI works fine |
| 20:52.08 | jelly | DoctorD90: forget about using hardware gpu in a safe way, even with kvm and iommu it might not be safe |
| 20:52.09 | TomasCZ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:52.34 | slikts | why is there no git 2.5 in jessie backports :/ |
| 20:52.42 | DoctorD90 | ah.... |
| 20:53.00 | jelly | redspl^GG: hmm. I wonder if slirp (SLIP emulation) still works |
| 20:53.03 | TomasCZ | jelly, can you extend that claim a bit? |
| 20:53.11 | DoctorD90 | so to use gpu as cpu, the only one is the real installation... |
| 20:53.27 | DoctorD90 | have i understood well jelly? |
| 20:54.05 | Kathgrar | The GPU is emulated by the CPU then. The CPU calculates the GPU commands etc, this causes more CPU load (maybe overload?). |
| 20:54.06 | jelly | DoctorD90: you said you'd use potentially untrusted software, I'm only commenting in that context |
| 20:54.26 | TomasCZ | with VT-d or what they call it, you could use it. I think jelly meant security wise. |
| 20:54.38 | jelly | DoctorD90: if you don't care about security you can run whatever you want, whichever way you want it... |
| 20:54.59 | Kathgrar | TomasCZ: VT-x (Intel) or AMD-V (AMD) (in Linux, vmx (Intel) or hvm (AMD)) |
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| 20:55.16 | Kathgrar | or vhm ? |
| 20:55.18 | DoctorD90 | no jelly i take care of security, but i dont well know about dont use virtual box :D |
| 20:55.22 | jelly | Kathgrar: VT-d is needed for hw gpu access |
| 20:55.33 | Kathgrar | jelly: Oh |
| 20:55.43 | DoctorD90 | as wintrash user, im used to virtualbox...this kind of virtualization is new to me :) |
| 20:55.46 | Kathgrar | VT-d is only available in my server's CPU :( |
| 20:55.49 | TomasCZ | yop, those are two things. |
| 20:56.33 | Kathgrar | Hmm, Intel says VT-d is "Directed I/O access for virtualization" |
| 20:57.22 | TomasCZ | Kathgrar, jelly, I recall when picking up ultrabook and looking at CPU spec, I was like VT-d, naah should needed it. Then I wanted to pass HW, and failed miserably. Of course accel.virtualization works. |
| 20:57.24 | jelly | redspl^GG: if slirp still exists, you can just set up serial getty, let the user log in, run slirp manually, then connect using SLIP |
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| 20:58.13 | hassoon | jelly: Before, ldd ~/Documents/Littre gave me: ' not a dynamic executable', but after doing sudo apt-get install libc6:i386, it gave me : https://paste.debian.net/309732/ |
| 20:58.15 | lift | I had a hard-drive in a raid array get bad segments after a power outage. badblocks has found 45 read errors so far. Any way I can continue to use this disk or is it a paperweight? |
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| 20:59.13 | jelly | hassoon: right, so now you need to install all the :i386 libraries that binary needs |
| 20:59.28 | hassoon | that ldd displayed to me? :o |
| 20:59.46 | jelly | hassoon: yes, all that are "not found" |
| 20:59.56 | hassoon | jelly: understood, thanks |
| 21:00.11 | hassoon | jelly: are libraries needed files for the said program to function ? |
| 21:01.00 | jelly | hassoon: yes |
| 21:01.47 | jelly | hassoon: eg. this will tell you you need "zlib1g:i386" package for "libz.so.1": /msg judd file libz.so.1 --arch i386 |
| 21:01.52 | hassoon | jelly: i think i need to yet to append ':i386' to the libraries' names that i have to install :o |
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| 21:02.05 | jelly | hassoon: of course |
| 21:02.10 | hassoon | *to yet append * |
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| 21:02.19 | hassoon | jelly: righ I see, thanks |
| 21:02.23 | hassoon | right * |
| 21:02.29 | jelly | and you need to find out the package names |
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| 21:03.06 | TomasCZ | jelly what is your take, I'd like to utilize docker because it's more efficient with disk when it comes to same installation running 3times. Then you might be worried about app escaping that, and perhaps using KVM or XEN is better. For saving disk space I guess live distro created for these purposes would work better? |
| 21:03.08 | hassoon | ah, sometimes the founded missing libraries do not have the same name as the equivalent package ? |
| 21:03.44 | TomasCZ | hassoon, sadly yes. |
| 21:03.54 | jelly | TomasCZ: I have no idea what your goal and requirements are |
| 21:04.25 | jelly | hassoon: package names are completely different from library files they contain |
| 21:04.39 | jelly | !apt-file |
| 21:04.39 | dpkg | apt-file is a utility used to find which package owns a given file - or list files in a package - even if it is not installed: "aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update" ; then "apt-file search filename" to see a list of packages containing filename (can also use a regular expression; see man apt-file). You can also search online, ask me about <pdo>. See also <judd-file>, <auto-apt>, <dlocate>. |
| 21:05.18 | TomasCZ | jelly, ok, security wise is better what, docker(LXC) or KVM/XEN, I guess I could answer myself, if I want firewall rules on them |
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| 21:11.41 | DoctorD90 | sorry, at the end. to get gpu as cpu, but keeping securly the env separated form my main os, it isnt a solution? or i have misunderstan? |
| 21:11.52 | DoctorD90 | misunderstood* |
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| 21:14.47 | jelly | DoctorD90: if there is one I don't know of it |
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| 21:15.58 | hassoon | d'oh what a pain |
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| 21:17.05 | Phunk3r | trying to install winusb to create a windows usb install. when I try to install the .deb i get errors for libwxgtk2.8-0 and libwxbase2.8-0. How do i install them? also is there an easier way to make a win usb install? |
| 21:18.41 | Amun_Ra | Phunk3r: by apt-get install libwxgtk2.8-0 libwxbase2.8-0? |
| 21:18.43 | DoctorD90 | so jelly, i have to run software and gpu as cpu, on another machine :P great! thx jelly :) at least now i will not make stupid stuff :D |
| 21:19.10 | Phunk3r | Amun_Ra, tried that but getting no candidates |
| 21:19.25 | Amun_Ra | ,v libwxgtk2.8-0 |
| 21:19.26 | judd | Package: libwxgtk2.8-0 on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.8.10.1-3+b1; wheezy: 2.8.12.1-12; sid: 2.8.12.1+dfsg2-2; sid-multimedia: 2.8.12.1+dfsg2-dmo3; jessie-multimedia: 2.8.12.1+dfsg2-dmo4 |
| 21:20.07 | Amun_Ra | Phunk3r: which Debian do you have? |
| 21:20.18 | Phunk3r | 8 |
| 21:20.40 | thealchemist | when I install vifm it gets assosiated with iceweasel i.e downloads gets opened with vifm |
| 21:20.42 | hassoon | meh, most of people have debian 8 i guess |
| 21:20.53 | hassoon | why would they use an older version which is 7 or whatever |
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| 21:20.56 | Amun_Ra | Phunk3r: it's in jessie-multimedia |
| 21:21.01 | thealchemist | is there a way to stop this behaviour - I don't want vifm to be assosiated with gui programs |
| 21:21.28 | Phunk3r | Amun_Ra, so i need to add that to my source list right? |
| 21:21.29 | otyugh | Heya. Someone on olinuxino know if I can update to jessie safely ? |
| 21:22.08 | Amun_Ra | Phunk3r: aye |
| 21:23.22 | Phunk3r | Amun_Ra, thanks! it's working now :) |
| 21:24.17 | Amun_Ra | :> |
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| 21:52.09 | redspl^GG | OK, i have a clue |
| 21:52.21 | redspl^GG | what ms-dns i should set in pppd config? |
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| 21:53.10 | redspl^GG | (i am setting up a connection: debian box connected by serial(USB2serial btw) null modem cable to windows 95 laptop |
| 21:53.14 | redspl^GG | ) |
| 21:53.32 | redspl^GG | ... and i am trying THIS tutorial https://totalizator.wordpress.com/2012/10/03/connect-windows-95-to-the-internet-using-linux-box-and-rs-232-serial-port-null-modem-cable/ |
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| 21:56.14 | Chocolate_Chip | Why is there no ffmpeg in the package list |
| 21:56.43 | abrotman | which version of Debian? |
| 21:56.50 | redspl^GG | 8.1 |
| 21:57.23 | abrotman | not you, Chocolate_Chip |
| 21:57.27 | redspl^GG | :( |
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| 21:58.23 | Chocolate_Chip | 8.1 Jessie |
| 21:59.05 | Atm0spher1c | I'm using lvm booting into stable with stable-root stable-home stable-var tmp swap partitions. I added sid-root sid-home sid-var and installed sid with debootstrap into sid-root. I also added an fstab and kernel. update-grub2 saw the new install, and I can select it in grub (it even says /dev/mapper/lvm-sid) but it boots into the stable system. Any ideas? |
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| 21:59.33 | centrx | Chocolate_Chip, ffmpeg isn't in jessie, will avconv work? |
| 21:59.54 | centrx | libav |
| 22:00.22 | centrx | redspl^GG, What year is it where you are? |
| 22:02.13 | redspl^GG | centrx: 2015... -.- |
| 22:02.18 | redspl^GG | i am retrocomputing... |
| 22:03.10 | abrotman | Chocolate_Chip: I think it's called libav |
| 22:03.10 | centrx | redspl^GG, just wondering, you know time travel communications |
| 22:03.14 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Chocolate_Chip about ffmpeg |
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| 22:03.25 | redspl^GG | centrx, :-P |
| 22:03.30 | Atm0spher1c | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hPfYNzJ6ZA |
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| 22:04.26 | mohamedAziz17 | guys check out this https://github.com/mohamed-aziz/mytodo |
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| 22:18.51 | abrotman | mohamedAziz17: This channel is for Debian support. |
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| 22:22.03 | Atm0spher1c | how do I add another linux image to boot? |
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| 22:26.19 | markybob | Atm0spher1c, you install it |
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| 22:28.24 | Atm0spher1c | I did, in a chroot. Added fstab, update-grub2 finds the new system and partition. But boots the old kernel and stable partition. |
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| 22:29.50 | markybob | Atm0spher1c, you want to boot from a kernel you installed in a chroot? i got that right? |
| 22:30.10 | Atm0spher1c | I want to boot into the new system |
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| 22:31.23 | markybob | Atm0spher1c, i don't think you understand chroot |
| 22:31.24 | thevishy | where do I put the icon file for zathura? |
| 22:31.41 | markybob | Atm0spher1c, not going to happen |
| 22:31.43 | Atm0spher1c | full debian sid install with debootstrap, added a kernel, update grub2. It sees it, but then boots the old system and kernel. I'm using lvm by the way with root home var tmp swap partitions |
| 22:32.21 | thevishy | I use XFCE ... can see so many icon sizes like 24x24 etc which one should I put? In ubuntu I read that its /usr/share/app-install/icons but debian doesn't have that folder |
| 22:32.36 | Atm0spher1c | I don't fully understand no. Not going to happen aye? That's one of the purposes of bootstraping a system. |
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| 22:34.43 | gefdecue | https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11903760_957535714307042_6160960598030376364_n.jpg?oh=33046b1e9760320b4aa6e5d1581b5c4d&oe=566EB096 |
| 22:34.50 | thevishy | can someone tell me how to associate an icon |
| 22:34.58 | gefdecue | whats wrong in the above screenshiot? my system doesnt boot up |
| 22:35.22 | markybob | gefdecue, this is why we tell people not to use nvidia's driver. |
| 22:35.39 | markybob | !nvidia |
| 22:35.40 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 22:35.41 | gefdecue | markybob: worked until today... |
| 22:36.34 | gefdecue | markybob: so its bcz of the invidia driver and i need to look for help in the other channel. right? |
| 22:36.37 | abrotman | gefdecue: what changed? |
| 22:37.00 | gefdecue | abrotman: nothing. i just turn off the pc at night. and today refused to boot up |
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| 22:38.20 | themanu | hi, I have a sigle pyqt script which uses two images. when I try to package it into a deb using this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/90764/how-do-i-create-a-deb-package-for-a-single-python-script the images are not included. My project is called screeney and I have me images in Screeney/screeney with the screeney python script. How do I include the images in the deb? |
| 22:38.53 | abrotman | gefdecue: no, something changed |
| 22:40.11 | gefdecue | abrotman: then i dont know, maybe i unknowingly did something |
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| 22:41.29 | Atm0spher1c | gefdecue: Did you update kernel? Reinstall nvidia driver? |
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| 22:41.58 | gefdecue | Atm0spher1c: i updated yes but a while ago and worked fine until today |
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| 22:43.56 | abrotman | gefdecue: you have logs |
| 22:43.58 | themanu | can anyone help me please? |
| 22:44.44 | gefdecue | abrotman: , from var/logs/mesages ? |
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| 22:46.14 | blackjack | guys is tor browser installable on apt-get ? |
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| 22:48.47 | gefdecue | abrotman: did u see the image wiith the logs above? |
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| 22:53.01 | shay_shay | gefdecue: the first thing i noticed wrong was using nano to view logs ;o) |
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| 22:54.55 | Atm0spher1c | markybob: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/i386/apds03.html.en Would you look at that? You shouldn't give people a definitive answer - "not gonna happen". People used to say not gonna happen about flying, going to the moon, etc. |
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| 22:55.11 | Atm0spher1c | "I don't know" - hardest words for people to say |
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| 22:55.25 | jeremie_ | Hi, i'm trying to troubleshoot one of our server who've been ahcked, but i don't really know how to do so >_____< |
| 22:56.23 | jeremie_ | I'm looking for a way to get all request sent from my server to another ip adress, and i don't know where i could get this information |
| 22:56.50 | petemc | jeremie_: you're better taking a compromised machine offline immediately |
| 22:57.21 | crunge | jeremie_: How are your backups? |
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| 22:58.29 | jeremie_ | crunge: my backups are fine, but du to some "problem" with developpers i can't update my cms so i think we'll eventually be hacked again |
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| 22:59.01 | jeremie_ | In fact that's what happened after i set up my backups 2 days ago |
| 22:59.08 | jeremie_ | >____< |
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| 22:59.35 | crunge | jeremie_: Is this like in-house CMS? |
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| 23:00.20 | jeremie_ | crunge: no, no, it's a Joomla Cms, but with some hack inside, preventing any update,... |
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| 23:00.41 | crunge | jeremie_: When you get breached, you never restore code. Only data. |
| 23:00.43 | jeremie_ | An old one, 1.5 |
| 23:01.02 | jeremie_ | crunge: ok, didn't know that, i restored both |
| 23:01.50 | crunge | jeremie_: If I were an attacker, the first thing I would do is drop a backdoor in a new file or into an existing one. I would then wait a week or so before doing anything so that backdoor would be in the backups. |
| 23:02.47 | jeremie_ | Might be what he did in fact, i' don't really know how he keep going into my site, and that's precisely what i'm looking for |
| 23:02.53 | crunge | jeremie_: In general, don't even bother backing up code. Back up data only. If it's custom software, revision control and automated builds is your source. If it's third party, the install package is your source |
| 23:03.15 | crunge | jeremie_: Software vulnerability, bad credentials |
| 23:04.42 | jeremie_ | crunge: i've changed all credentials from those site, all ssh access, so i think it's more a software vulnerability |
| 23:04.48 | Atm0spher1c | I've heard joomla isn't so good as far as security. There are a lot of nice flat file cms out there. http://getgrav.org/ |
| 23:04.48 | gefdecue | sorry i got disconnected |
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| 23:05.36 | crunge | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:07.24 | gefdecue | https://scontent-mad1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/11903760_957535714307042_6160960598030376364_n.jpg?oh=33046b1e9760320b4aa6e5d1581b5c4d&oe=566EB096 |
| 23:07.37 | gefdecue | so what should i do ? install nvidia drivers a different way ?? |
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| 23:08.03 | Atm0spher1c | crunge: http://gohugo.io/ |
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| 23:08.39 | ctmjr | gefdecue: how did you install them |
| 23:09.12 | gefdecue | ctmjr: i did this |
| 23:09.13 | gefdecue | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 23:09.36 | gefdecue | and it got me the debian 8 with stuff installed i guess |
| 23:09.45 | ctmjr | gefdecue: how did you install the nvidia driver |
| 23:09.52 | crunge | Atm0spher1c: What makes it recommendable? |
| 23:09.58 | gefdecue | ctmjr: i didnt |
| 23:10.01 | gefdecue | i dont know |
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| 23:10.14 | malf | My search skills are failing me. Where can I find a list of known issues with the latest kernel in stretch + the radeon drivers? |
| 23:10.21 | malf | Running into an issue and want to see if it's already logged |
| 23:10.38 | gefdecue | ctmjr: now i can boot fine selecting 596 kernel |
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| 23:12.12 | Atm0spher1c | crunge: do a little searching but thats built with golang, its fast, easy, a lot of contributions. |
| 23:12.42 | crunge | Atm0spher1c: If I were to build my own it would be in golang, so that's a plus |
| 23:13.04 | Atm0spher1c | crunge: a few other ones out there, some php and there good too. Some are slow with updates, some are dead. |
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| 23:13.39 | crunge | Atm0spher1c: Rendering speed isn't such a huge deal, but it's also a plus |
| 23:14.14 | crunge | Atm0spher1c: Thanks for the pointer |
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| 23:14.34 | Atm0spher1c | yeah. I don't think im ever going to go back to regular bloat cms. Feel sorry for those stuck with them. Huge pain, and I also hate using the mouse |
| 23:15.54 | Atm0spher1c | hugo might be getting a web based cms for those that like that. http://code.makery.ch/blog/making-content-editors-and-web-developers-happy/ |
| 23:16.57 | crunge | Atm0spher1c: My blog is on blogger and I'm basically okay with it. The formatting capabilities are garbage so I don't want to use it for durable pages |
| 23:17.56 | crunge | WHile it's not my perferred syntax, I'm wondering why not every system that has user-editable web content doesn't support markdown |
| 23:18.25 | shay_shay | do any of the debian livecds support uefi? |
| 23:18.30 | shay_shay | what about standard |
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| 23:18.39 | shay_shay | i need to boot uefi to use efibootmgr |
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| 23:19.39 | Atm0spher1c | crunge: whatever works. But when I found out about things like vim and tiling window managers, I look for that kind of user friendlyness everywhere |
| 23:20.06 | Atm0spher1c | shay_shay: i have debian netinstall on usb, it allowed for both uefi and legacy |
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| 23:20.39 | Atm0spher1c | shay_shay: not exactly sure if that's all that needs doing |
| 23:20.46 | linwiz | I have this udev rule that is executed (symilnk is created) but the command is not executed. http://pastebin.com/dXi167eU |
| 23:21.14 | crunge | Atm0spher1c: If you're not familiar, blogger has a WYSIWYG editor that generates HTML on the backend. You can flip between the WYSIWYG UI and the generated HTML. WHAT YEAR IS THIS? |
| 23:22.04 | Atm0spher1c | crunge: 2015 :D Yeah i don't care for wysiwg. I want ssh and vim |
| 23:22.28 | crunge | Give me *any* kind of wiki sytnax and style control. |
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| 23:23.15 | crunge | And let me edit with vim over SSH and preserve stuff in git |
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| 23:28.48 | themanu | hi, I have a sigle pyqt script which uses two images. when I try to package it into a deb using this tutorial http://askubuntu.com/questions/90764/how-do-i-create-a-deb-package-for-a-single-python-script the images are not included. My project is called screeney and I have me images in Screeney/screeney with the screeney python script. How do I include the images in the deb? |
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| 23:32.10 | themanu | can someone please help me? |
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| 23:33.55 | rgr | just ask. dont ask to ask. |
| 23:34.09 | shay_shay | Atm0spher1c: i need a livecd with uefi support |
| 23:34.35 | rgr | ps you're best not including anything with "ubuntu" in here ;) |
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| 23:35.28 | themanu | rgr: what is the matter with ubuntu? |
| 23:35.38 | shay_shay | themanu: this is #debian |
| 23:36.04 | themanu | shay_shay: that is just general instruction, it works on any debian system |
| 23:36.28 | shay_shay | themanu: i was just telling you what was wrong with ubuntu |
| 23:36.45 | shay_shay | ... "in #debian" |
| 23:37.24 | themanu | shay_shay: can you help me? |
| 23:37.57 | themanu | I just need this one thing |
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| 23:38.27 | themanu | the images are not being included in the deb, how do I have them included? |
| 23:38.41 | abrotman | have you read the packaging manual? |
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| 23:43.23 | Atm0spher1c | shay_shay: the debian installer does boot with either legacy or uefi |
| 23:43.37 | shay_shay | Atm0spher1c: but its not a live cd |
| 23:43.45 | Atm0spher1c | shay_shay: you have to make it |
| 23:43.52 | Atm0spher1c | shay_shay: put it on a disc or usb |
| 23:44.04 | shay_shay | it's not a live system! |
| 23:44.14 | shay_shay | nevermind |
| 23:44.16 | shay_shay | using grml |
| 23:44.24 | Atm0spher1c | shay_shay: yeah, grml is good |
| 23:44.26 | themanu | abrotman: I did but I could not find anything, I also did a number of google searches |
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| 23:45.59 | themanu | so, does anyone know what the problem is? |
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| 23:51.04 | themanu | please? |
| 23:52.27 | centrx | themanu, maybe ask in #python ? |
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