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| 00:14.13 | cakefag | is this the help channel? |
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| 00:16.26 | BigDru | in the installer, you can check file server for additional software. What does this install exactly? |
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| 00:16.52 | cakefag | i have a usb thats locked with DT lucker for Kingston usb drives, i am on linux, but the software is made for windows and OS x |
| 00:17.18 | cakefag | any one know a solution |
| 00:17.19 | Chocolate_Chip | What is the default chmod for the desktop? |
| 00:17.39 | mutante | cakefag: try if it runs in wine? |
| 00:18.03 | cakefag | hmm good idea |
| 00:19.01 | Chocolate_Chip | Is it 775? |
| 00:19.42 | BigDru | nvm |
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| 00:22.46 | Chocolate_Chip | What is the default chmod for the desktop? |
| 00:22.47 | Chocolate_Chip | Is it 775? |
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| 00:23.28 | live-es | what is the minimum amount of ram to run eclipse on jessie? |
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| 00:24.28 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: default umask I think is 022 which gives 755 for directories and (forget the umask) to give 644 for files |
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| 00:24.49 | Chocolate_Chip | Ok. Lemme paste a protion of a script here. Can you look a it please? |
| 00:24.50 | somiaj | live-es: might depend on the project. Are you running into ram issues? |
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| 00:25.07 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: I can, maybe you should ask your actual question as I smell an XY problem |
| 00:25.24 | live-es | somiaj, will 768 MB ram do? |
| 00:25.29 | Chocolate_Chip | I'm making a script that runs as root |
| 00:25.41 | Chocolate_Chip | And it makes files I want to return to the home user |
| 00:26.02 | somiaj | live-es: running a full live system on a big desktop may be pushing the it. I would suggest using lxde or something minimial to give eclipse more resources (since you won't have a swap) |
| 00:26.15 | Chocolate_Chip | http://pastebin.com/rAbqfurH |
| 00:26.26 | Chocolate_Chip | Is this right? |
| 00:26.55 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: is this inside the home dir? I woudln't run this script |
| 00:27.04 | Chocolate_Chip | It is inside the Desktop |
| 00:27.20 | live-es | somiaj, i plan to install jessie on the hard disk. will 768 MB ram be enough to run eclipse on jessie installed on the hard disk? |
| 00:27.28 | Chocolate_Chip | It's only a part of it. The full script is here https://github.com/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript |
| 00:27.52 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: Why do you want the files to be executable, most of those are config files and do not need the +x bit, also don't the files have the correct permisions in the first place and all you need to do is change ownership, i.e. 'chown -R user.user /home/user/Desktop' |
| 00:27.59 | Chocolate_Chip | I'm trying to fix this. I got a lot of bug reports from making it 777 |
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| 00:28.35 | Chocolate_Chip | I was told to make it chown $USER, but becausue the script is running as root, $USER would print root |
| 00:29.20 | somiaj | I woudln't trust a script from 4chan...haha, but anyways I have on clue what that script is trying to do, looks like it wants to install a bunch of packages, I perosnally would just look though the script and do the things you want (not just blindy run it) |
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| 00:29.36 | Chocolate_Chip | It's my script |
| 00:29.40 | somiaj | but in general making all files 775 or even 755 is not suggested as it gives many config files the exectuable script |
| 00:29.43 | Chocolate_Chip | I'm the one who wrote it |
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| 00:30.21 | Chocolate_Chip | somiaj, It is my script. Give me a chmod you suggest I use |
| 00:30.23 | somiaj | ahh, in that case, I personally let any file creation be done giving standard permissions by the umask settings on the system and then just chown the files so the user has ownership of them (if they are in his $HOME dir) |
| 00:30.44 | Chocolate_Chip | What is the unmask setting |
| 00:30.47 | somiaj | i.e. I'm not seeing why you need to chmod the files, what sort of permissions are they being created with. |
| 00:31.05 | Chocolate_Chip | Because they are made by root, and root becomes the owner |
| 00:31.06 | Chocolate_Chip | Right? |
| 00:31.09 | somiaj | umask is just how default file permisions work when creating a new file (that isn't a copy of a file with permisions) |
| 00:31.15 | Chocolate_Chip | oh |
| 00:31.24 | Chocolate_Chip | So I can ommit the chmod all together? |
| 00:31.42 | somiaj | correct, the files should ahve the correct permissions, but be owned by root. In that case you can change all the ownership with the one command I pasted together. "chown -R user.user /home/username/Desktop' |
| 00:32.27 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: I would unless in testing of that script you notice some strange permissions being created, but this most likely won't be the case and just blankent chmoding 775 (or 755) on the files may not be the best way to achive what you want. |
| 00:32.49 | Chocolate_Chip | I can't do chown -r user if I don't know who the user is. I'm trying to figure out how to automate such a thing |
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| 00:33.25 | somiaj | you can also put more than one package on an apt-get install line. Might want to reduce the times you haev to have apt figure out depends and do apt-get install -y package1 package2 package3 |
| 00:33.39 | Chocolate_Chip | I know. I was told that |
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| 00:33.55 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: how do you determine where to put the files in the first place (i.e. which users directory?) |
| 00:33.58 | Chocolate_Chip | It's just that if one package fails to be found, all packages don't install |
| 00:34.14 | Chocolate_Chip | I have told them to run it in the Desktop directory |
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| 00:34.45 | Chocolate_Chip | As long as they run it in the desktop diorectory, all files should be made correctly |
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| 00:35.00 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: well you can use 'whoami' to get the username, but it might return 'root' if the script is run as root, you could also look at the cwd and get the username from /home/username/Desktop path. |
| 00:35.18 | Chocolate_Chip | hmm |
| 00:36.09 | somiaj | you could also get the username from teh Desktop permissions, 'ls -ld .' will give the permissions of the cwd and you could get username/group from that |
| 00:36.20 | somiaj | not sure the best way to parse it or just parse the output of ls -ld . |
| 00:36.58 | TJ- | Even better: if [ ! -z "${SUDO_USER}" ]; then MY_USER=${SUDO_USER}; else MY_USER=${USER}; fi" |
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| 00:38.46 | Chocolate_Chip | TJ-, this script assumes that sudo is neither installed, nor configured |
| 00:39.32 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: Then ${USER} is all you need, isn't it? |
| 00:39.56 | somiaj | he suggest they first su -, then run it as root |
| 00:40.05 | somiaj | so it may be run from a root login(1) |
| 00:40.05 | Chocolate_Chip | Yes |
| 00:40.15 | Chocolate_Chip | $USER would return root\ |
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| 00:41.53 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: "I have told them to run it in the Desktop directory" infers $HOME/Desktop, which if it is 'root' will be "/root/Desktop", and if not will be "/home/$USER/Desktop" |
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| 00:42.12 | Chocolate_Chip | No. I tested it. The files are made in Desktop |
| 00:42.20 | Chocolate_Chip | The user's desktop |
| 00:42.28 | somiaj | most likely not a case, but a users $HOME need not be /home/$USER |
| 00:42.40 | somiaj | so hence I would use the permisions on the directory they run the command in. |
| 00:43.20 | TJ- | somiaj: I was talking about the default config; but $HOME will point to the correct directory regardless |
| 00:43.20 | somiaj | note do you tell them to create this directory as their user before becomming root if they don't have it (cause that could cause a fail) |
| 00:43.55 | somiaj | TJ-: yea I'm talking about using the cwd path to infer the user. |
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| 00:48.01 | TJ- | ugh! just seen the script. |
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| 00:48.36 | Chocolate_Chip | TJ-, what's wrong woith it? |
| 00:48.39 | Chocolate_Chip | The indents? |
| 00:48.50 | Chocolate_Chip | I haven't fixed the indents yet because it's still a beta |
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| 00:50.41 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: The whole thing! You're significantly changing a default Debian install in ways the user does not understand. If/when things go wrong they'll ask for support here and other Debian fora, and we'll find a mess we don't understand and simply tell the user to reinstall the OS |
| 00:51.33 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: You're installing other apt repositories without clear explanation to the user or giving them the choice to refuse those... that isn't Security! |
| 00:52.35 | Chocolate_Chip | I'm just trying to optimize a debian install for a n00b, change the DE to a more familiar one that is like Windows (and lightweight) and documentation |
| 00:52.46 | Chocolate_Chip | I provide documentation on how to remove this stuff |
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| 00:53.09 | Chocolate_Chip | I have documentation on how to remove TOr, and i2p. I have instructions to remove the other ones |
| 00:54.57 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: I'd put each discrete segment of functionality in separate function definitions, which would allow to call them optionally. I'd also use shell HERE docs rather than all those echo's, and I'd merge multiple apt-get ... commands so that more than 1 package is passed on the command-line at once. |
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| 00:55.39 | Chocolate_Chip | I don't want to use multiple apt-get because if one fails, the rest do as well |
| 00:56.01 | Chocolate_Chip | Like, if one package is removed from the repo for whatever reason,l all otherp ackages on that line fail because it can't find one |
| 00:57.03 | Equa | what will happen to the script if a package fail now? |
| 00:57.03 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: well if you use debian repos that won't be an issue since jessie is a frozen system. (: |
| 00:59.54 | Chocolate_Chip | What I mean is, you do |
| 01:00.04 | Chocolate_Chip | apt-get install package1 package2 package3 |
| 01:00.16 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: If you use variables, you can do away with forcing the user to execute the script from $HOME/Desktop... you can lose all those relative paths and use the variable you've correctly configured |
| 01:00.27 | Chocolate_Chip | if package2 can't be found, both package1 and package3 won't install |
| 01:00.29 | Chocolate_Chip | Riught? |
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| 01:00.49 | Chocolate_Chip | TJ-, tell me how then |
| 01:02.05 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: I said earlier. $HOME will be set. $USER will be set. Use them. |
| 01:02.10 | Chocolate_Chip | I never made a bash script before |
| 01:02.27 | Chocolate_Chip | This is my first bash script |
| 01:02.34 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: in a shell type 'env' and see all those lovely environment variables |
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| 01:03.09 | Chocolate_Chip | ok |
| 01:03.39 | Chocolate_Chip | And the HOME enviorment will stay the same even tough the user is using a root terminal? |
| 01:04.16 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: Have you tested the script... what does it do if you press Return when the user is asked to press 'd' or 'c' ? I suspect it'll barf with an error since $ans will be empty and you've not quoted it in the test |
| 01:04.33 | Chocolate_Chip | I have tested the script many times |
| 01:04.44 | Chocolate_Chip | d prints the GNU GPL, c would continue |
| 01:05.02 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: and if they press Return without anything else? It'll hit an error. |
| 01:05.11 | Chocolate_Chip | When the user presses return, it prints errors, and then continues |
| 01:05.14 | Equa | Chocolate_Chip: tj mean to test the script for input error |
| 01:05.18 | Chocolate_Chip | Which is good enough for its current state |
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| 01:06.17 | TJ- | Equa: In 'if [ .... ]; then ' tests it is VERY good practice to surround all variables with double-quotes, so that if the variable is empty the shell evaluates the empty string "" |
| 01:06.25 | TJ- | oops Chocolate_Chip ^^^ |
| 01:06.32 | Chocolate_Chip | I suppose I could adda line that says if [ $ans != (varuible here) ]; then |
| 01:06.55 | Chocolate_Chip | Hmm .So... |
| 01:07.14 | Chocolate_Chip | if [ $ans = d -o $ans = D -o $ans = details -o $ans = Details -o $ans = DETAILS ] |
| 01:07.17 | Chocolate_Chip | would become |
| 01:07.22 | TJ- | As in if [ "$ans" = "c" -o "$ans2 = "C" -o "$ans" = "continue" -o "$ans" = "Continue" -o "$ans" = "CONTINUE" ]; then |
| 01:07.53 | Chocolate_Chip | if [ "$ans = d -o" "$ans = D -o" "$ans = details -o" "$ans = Details -o" "$ans = DETAILS" ]; then |
| 01:07.59 | Chocolate_Chip | oh |
| 01:08.18 | Chocolate_Chip | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.22 | Chocolate_Chip | ans2? |
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| 01:11.17 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: Or if you want to be clever: if [ "${ans:1:1}" = "C" -o "${ans:1:1}" = "c" ]; then ... |
| 01:11.33 | Chocolate_Chip | what is that |
| 01:11.33 | TJ- | sorry, that should be ${ans:0:1} |
| 01:11.46 | TJ- | It extracts the first character of the variable |
| 01:12.06 | TJ- | So even if the user typed continue you'd only be testing the 'c' = 'c' |
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| 01:15.02 | dbarros | how can one revert this process.... rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/info..... i basically wiped all the information on installed packages....!!!! |
| 01:15.56 | TJ- | dbarros: backups :) |
| 01:16.29 | dbarros | can't it be just reinstalled, from the packages that are present on the system? |
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| 01:19.38 | CoachMcGu1rk | have you tried any undelete tools? |
| 01:19.44 | CoachMcGu1rk | how long ago did you delete the directory and its contents? |
| 01:19.49 | CoachMcGu1rk | if its not over-written it should be retrievable |
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| 01:22.09 | somiaj | Depends on how he deleted it. Many file managers include this 'trash' option, but linux commands don't, when rm removes a file it removes it (well all info about its location on the disk, you can get disk scanning tools and scan sector by sector to try to find known file types) |
| 01:22.23 | dbarros | the problem started when the apt-get was not installing a package, saying there was a error to be corrected with -f install |
| 01:22.34 | dbarros | so it did not correct at all with the option given.... |
| 01:22.55 | dbarros | so a ubuntu forum, recommended to do a rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/info/a* |
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| 01:23.26 | CoachMcGu1rk | oof. |
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| 01:23.41 | dbarros | and at some point, some moderator said that it would all goes with if you went and rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/info.... and then apt-get clean, update, and --configure -a... etc |
| 01:24.10 | dbarros | but if I run synaptic, it says there are NO BROKEN packages.... |
| 01:24.29 | CoachMcGu1rk | sominj, sure it can delete it, but all the data is still there unless the inodes marked free ahve been re-written, the files should be acessible. hell have to do some stuff by hand but there are good file undelete tools |
| 01:24.37 | CoachMcGu1rk | 'rm' doesnt securely delete it so thuis, does not 'delete' the file |
| 01:24.46 | CoachMcGu1rk | it just marks the area it occupied as free |
| 01:25.02 | somiaj | dbarros: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-server/2007-August/000659.html -- you can read though some of these hacks and see if they work to rebuild/recover it. |
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| 01:25.40 | CoachMcGu1rk | hmm |
| 01:25.42 | CoachMcGu1rk | yeah that may work |
| 01:25.43 | CoachMcGu1rk | brb |
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| 01:25.48 | somiaj | CoachMcGu1rk: correct, you can scan the whole disk and hope to find known unregistered files. (: |
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| 01:27.06 | TJ- | If the files are in contiguous blocks that might work, but if they're not contiguous you've got no remaining chain info to call on so you've got to manually figure out which blocks belong to which files.. might be OK for a couple of files you know well, but not for a directory containing 100s |
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| 01:27.52 | jmcnaught | dbarros: instead of usin "rm -rf" when you're troubleshooting, it's better to use "mv" and simply rename the file or directory to something else. Then it's easy to restore. For next time :) |
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| 01:28.25 | dbarros | the system is running fine.... the problem now is that, whenever apt-get is used... it is accusing lacking file lists |
| 01:29.59 | TJ- | You might be able to reinstall using the info from /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 01:38.10 | jmcnaught | Chocolate_Chip: i also read your script, and i think that a better way for you to help noobs would be to teach them how to do thing that the script is doing, and recommend different software for them to try. As others have said making a bunch of changes to the defaults and add third party repos would be confusing for newbies, and is not very secure. |
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| 01:39.17 | jmcnaught | Chocolate_Chip: good on you for learning to script and wanting help and share your knowledge though :) Keep it up! |
| 01:39.35 | TJ- | dbarros: this will get you the list of installed packages, the first step in re-extracting the package's CONTROL tree into /var/lib/dpkg/info/: "awk '/^Status: install ok installed/{print PKG} /^Package:/{PKG=$2}' /var/lib/dpkg/status | sort " |
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| 01:44.58 | TJ- | Chocolate_Chip: jmcnaught Seconded. I think the expression that best sums it up is 'you need to learn to walk before you learn to run' - you need experience to know the implications of the changes |
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| 01:55.03 | TJ- | dbarros: Have you fixed it yet? I've figured a way to do it |
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| 01:58.22 | dbarros | TJ-, the way you said before lines ago |
| 01:58.30 | dbarros | I haven't i need to change boxes |
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| 01:58.54 | TJ- | And a lot more. I've figured out how to recreate the exact same files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 01:59.20 | dbarros | can you paste bin that? |
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| 02:00.46 | TJ- | dbarros: I've been testing each step manually... it needs to go into a script to make it clean and tidy. Give me 5 minutes |
| 02:01.08 | dbarros | right! |
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| 02:06.21 | BigDru | fresh install of debian. Anyone know how to make terminal background semitransparent? Edit>profile pref > backgrounds doens't exist. |
| 02:07.16 | somiaj | BigDru: depends on the termial you use, not all support that feature. |
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| 02:07.40 | somiaj | BigDru: I would read the man page for the termianl you are using, it should say what flags (if any) to run the command with or how to configure it. |
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| 02:10.38 | dbarros | TJ- Be right back! |
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| 02:22.22 | Carlito__ | hi all, I am using debian jessie (on odroid c1). I am not able to save edits to /boot/boot.ini => error writing /boot/boot.ini: Read-only file system. I tried âmount -o remount,rw /â but still the same. |
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| 02:22.53 | Carlito__ | mount -o remount,rw / => EXT4-fs (mmcblk0p2): re-mounted. Opts: errors=remount-ro |
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| 02:24.18 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: /boot is not a separate filesystem? |
| 02:25.23 | Jordan_U | I'm trying to use reportbug from within a sid chroot created with "debootstrap sid sid-chroot/ http://http.debian.net/debian/" and I'm getting the error message "Unable to connect to Debian BTS; continue [y|N|?]?". I can "ping google.com" with no problem from within the same chroot. |
| 02:25.52 | Carlito__ | jmcnaught: I not very good with linux. how can I check filesystems on my sd card? |
| 02:26.47 | Carlito__ | jmcnaught: i did mount | grep noexec. but I donât see boot mentions anywhere |
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| 02:29.05 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: if you do "mount | grep boot"? |
| 02:29.06 | dbarros | they TJ- |
| 02:29.15 | dbarros | i'm back TJ- |
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| 02:30.12 | grrrBCM | haaalp! |
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| 02:30.48 | grrrBCM | can someone help me out with bcm4360 and kali 2.0? |
| 02:31.15 | aZz7eCh | is there a native linux alternative to mirc ? |
| 02:31.18 | aZz7eCh | rather not wine it |
| 02:31.50 | Carlito__ | jmcnaught: I got: /dev/mmcblk0p1 on /boot type vfat (ro,nosuid,ndev,relatime,fsmask=000,dmask=0000,allow_utime=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=iso8859-1,shortname=mixed,flush,error=remount-ro |
| 02:31.51 | grrrBCM | i was using the live version, followed this guide https://wiki.debian.org/wl#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22, wifi worked, now that i did full install i get modprobe: FATAL: Module wl not found. |
| 02:31.56 | BigDru | xchat is good |
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| 02:33.31 | TJ- | dbarros: OK. It's not quite finished, and definitely not tested yet, but its close. Take a look: https://iam.tj/projects/misc/dpkg-info-recreate.bash |
| 02:33.36 | mutante | aZz7eCh: xchat, smuxi, sic, scrollz, irssi, tinyirc, talksoup.app, quassel, lostirc, liece, kvirc, hexchat, epic5, ekg2 , ... :p |
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| 02:34.36 | BigDru | aZz7eCh: note that mutante listed xchat first ;) |
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| 02:34.53 | dbarros | TJ- , can I run that now? or are you going to tweak it |
| 02:34.56 | Andre483 | hi, I am experiencing slow transfer speeds and I am unsure if it's the server or if it's the network. here is the iperf results http://pastebin.com/zFrG8pCt |
| 02:35.40 | TJ- | dbarros: No! I've not tested it yet... but I think its close. I'm trying to make it bullet-proof |
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| 02:35.55 | dbarros | this is my dad's box.... |
| 02:36.05 | dbarros | running 14.04 ubby |
| 02:36.09 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: so /boot is a separate filesystem from /root, on a separate partition. it is also read-only, and it is FAT, which is not ideal for a linux system but will still probably work well enough to boo |
| 02:36.46 | dbarros | i can't believe I converted my father to linux for about almost 9 years now |
| 02:37.29 | Carlito__ | jmcnaught: ok. so /boot will remain read-only and canât be changed. right? |
| 02:37.42 | jmcnaught | dbarros: in the future you should go to #ubuntu for help, this channel is for Debian only |
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| 02:38.25 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: did you try "mount -o remount,rw /boot" ? that's why i pointed out that /boot could be separate from / |
| 02:38.27 | dbarros | jmcnaught, i don't mean to be rude but, ubuntu help is not that specialized.... and i'm talking about debian like distro.... |
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| 02:39.53 | Jordan_U | dbarros: Why do you think that there are two different channels? #debian's policy is to only support Debian (and #ubuntu's is to only support Ubuntu). Use ##linux if you want "general" linux support. |
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| 02:40.19 | Carlito__ | jmcnaught: nice! thanks! |
| 02:40.44 | jmcnaught | dbarros: i understand you didn't mean to be root, that's just the way it is :) The quality of the support community is a big factor in picking distros. |
| 02:41.15 | dbarros | Jordan_U: well reasonably, when I put that issue on #ubuntu, someone said... use an application called photorec to "recover" your files..... well now call that silly..... but here, TJ- has led to a more compreehensive and straight forward solution..... |
| 02:41.21 | Jordan_U | Carlito__: Now you likely have a security vulnerability though, as (I think) any user (not only root) can now write to /boot/, which effectively gives any user root access. |
| 02:41.58 | Carlito__ | Jordan_U: i need to edit only one file. can I change it back |
| 02:42.06 | TJ- | dbarros: Testing it now |
| 02:42.11 | dbarros | jmcnaught, in other words, he understood the issue |
| 02:42.12 | Jordan_U | Carlito__: OK, as long as you do. |
| 02:42.19 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: yes Jordan_U is right, after you finish making changes you should set /boot back to read-onnly, and consider changing it to ext2 in the future |
| 02:42.32 | Carlito__ | jmcnaught: cool. got it. |
| 02:42.42 | Carlito__ | Jordan_U: thanks for the heads up |
| 02:42.47 | Carlito__ | one more question: I am root. I am trying to run ./fs_resize.sh script and I am getting Permission denied |
| 02:42.51 | Jordan_U | Carlito__: You're welcome. |
| 02:43.43 | jmcnaught | dbarros: i agree that the support here is better than in #ubuntu, to me that's a reason to use Debian, not to seek Ubuntu support from #debian. Anyways I'm glad you got some help this time, but remember for next time Ubuntu is not supported here |
| 02:44.22 | dbarros | jmcnaught, i'm actually considering debian for distro.... and a server |
| 02:45.04 | dbarros | but i wanted to suggest new logo for debian, and abandon the sillly names from whaetever shrek story it is.... :-) |
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| 02:46.38 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: that file isn't part of Debian so probably nobody here knows what it does, but you might need to make the file executable with "chmod +x fs_resize.sh" first, you could you do ". ./fs_resize.sh" (the first . means "run this") |
| 02:47.00 | phy1729 | no the first . means the local directory |
| 02:47.10 | phy1729 | oh |
| 02:47.14 | phy1729 | I missed one sorry |
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| 02:48.00 | shay_shay | dbarros: :O but shrek story is my favorite movie |
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| 02:48.47 | dbarros | shay_shay, it's not from shrek, it is from..... i forgot.... a cartoon or something |
| 02:49.12 | shay_shay | O_o |
| 02:49.31 | t4nk917 | help |
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| 02:49.52 | dvs | t4nk917: "help" won't get you a response |
| 02:49.58 | jmcnaught | debian releases are codenamed after characters from toy story |
| 02:50.22 | dvs | thought "donkey" was a release |
| 02:50.23 | dbarros | I don't mean to criticize but you can't call an enterprise server project yummy gummy or rolly grumpy names.... kinda like..... |
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| 02:51.12 | shay_shay | dbarros: that's obviously not true, because there is a enterprise server project named like you just said they can't name it |
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| 02:51.50 | dbarros | shay_shay, yes, also for that reason, because they do this silliness to... :-) |
| 02:51.53 | dbarros | even ubuntu does |
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| 02:52.42 | dbarros | but a new logo would be about time, wouldn't it? |
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| 02:52.52 | shay_shay | !tell dbarros -about off topic |
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| 02:53.09 | dbarros | christ, that menstruating red is on the eye |
| 02:53.30 | jmcnaught | dbarros: are you still not trying to be rude? |
| 02:53.49 | dbarros | sorry |
| 02:53.53 | dbarros | that sounded |
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| 02:56.27 | TJ- | dbarros: OK, hit a problem that needs resolving. For multilib systems the script needs to do some investigations to get the correct architecture. |
| 02:57.08 | dbarros | tj- my system is x64 |
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| 03:00.58 | TJ- | dbarros: It's not the system; it's the info used from /var/lib/dpkg/status. I need to make the script architecture-away else it may try to use an incorrect package arch in the repair. Most packages are fine but a few cause a glitch |
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| 03:01.24 | dbarros | TJ-...hhmmm ok |
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| 03:04.15 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: on second thought it is probably better to use "bash ./fs_resize.sh" than ". ./fs_resize.sh". While "." does mean "run this", it also means "run this in the current shell instead of a new one" which might do unexpected stuff like leave environment variables or exit the shell. Sorry for the confusion. |
| 03:04.32 | TJ- | dbarros: OK, figured out what causes files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ to have :amd64: or :i386: inserted into their names. It's caused when the control file has "Multi-Arch: same" |
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| 03:05.20 | dbarros | TJ- what can i try then to rebuild that dir |
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| 03:06.40 | Carlito__ | jmcnaught: no worries. thanks for all your help. got everything working AND learned something new. |
| 03:08.06 | jmcnaught | Carlito__: you're welcome |
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| 03:15.03 | TJ- | dbarros: I'm almost there |
| 03:15.45 | dbarros | TJ- thank you, I appreciate |
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| 03:29.17 | veek | how do you install ntfs-3g-2015.3.14 on lenny |
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| 03:29.42 | veek | apparently that's the solution for the ntfs-3g -s bug |
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| 03:30.01 | bazhang | ,v ntfs-3g |
| 03:30.02 | judd | Package: ntfs-3g on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:2010.3.6-1; squeeze-security-lts: 1:2010.3.6-1+deb6u2; wheezy: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1; wheezy-security: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1+deb7u2; jessie-security: 1:2014.2.15AR.2-1+deb8u2; jessie: 1:2014.2.15AR.2-1+deb8u2; stretch: 1:2014.2.15AR.3-3; sid: 1:2015.3.14AR.1-1 |
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| 03:31.13 | SirLagz | veek: why lenny? |
| 03:31.13 | themill | the solution to bugs in lenny is "upgrade to a supported release" |
| 03:31.14 | bazhang | sid on leeny seems very unwise |
| 03:31.25 | bazhang | and lenny |
| 03:31.37 | veek | SirLagz, lenny is stable right..8.? |
| 03:31.46 | themill | !lenny |
| 03:31.46 | dpkg | Lenny is the codename for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0, released on February 15th, 2009. Lenny security support ended on 2012-02-06, this release is no longer supported. Lenny users should upgrade to Squeeze, ask me about <lenny->squeeze>. Removed from the mirrors (2012-03-25), ask me about <lenny sources.list>. For old Lenny ISOs, ask me about <lenny iso>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianLenny http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120209 |
| 03:31.47 | SirLagz | veek: no...lenny is like...oooooooooold |
| 03:32.01 | veek | 8.1.. but it's debian stable.. |
| 03:32.15 | SirLagz | veek: 8.1 is stable. but 8.1 is Jessie |
| 03:32.19 | themill | 5 â 8 |
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| 03:32.24 | veek | ah sorry jessie |
| 03:32.30 | veek | i'm using jessie |
| 03:32.34 | SirLagz | veek: lol...no idea where you got lenny from |
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| 03:33.00 | veek | how do you install ntfs-3g-2015.3.14 on jessie 8.1 ? |
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| 03:33.18 | themill | ,checkbackport ntfs-3g |
| 03:33.19 | judd | Backporting package ntfs-3g in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libfuse-dev (>= 2.9.3-16). |
| 03:33.20 | TJ- | dbarros: I've uploaded the current work-in-progress. Still not ready, but getting much closer |
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| 03:33.34 | themill | veek: looks a lot like a can of worms |
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| 03:33.51 | SirLagz | ,checkbackport libfuse-dev |
| 03:33.57 | judd | Backporting package libfuse-dev in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
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| 03:34.14 | SirLagz | veek: depends on how much stuffing around you want to risk... |
| 03:34.44 | veek | ah so it could be done right? safely.. it's a dual boot with win10 and my net does not work on win10 |
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| 03:35.33 | SirLagz | veek: anything 'can be done', just a matter of how much trouble you're willing to go through |
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| 03:35.42 | dbarros | TJ-. okay, but i Have to go now, can I leave you an email for you to send me a link |
| 03:35.57 | dbarros | TJ- it's late, i wll try to fix that box tmorrow |
| 03:36.54 | themill | veek: it will probably work with a bit of futzing around. Depends on how good you are at futzing around. |
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| 03:37.41 | veek | let me try |
| 03:37.50 | veek | i have backports in sources anyway |
| 03:38.32 | SirLagz | veek: good luck! |
| 03:38.44 | veek | apt-cache -t jessie-backports search ntfs-3g=2015.3.14 (lists nothing though)?? |
| 03:38.45 | TJ- | dbarros: You have the link on my web-site. When the script is ready I'll add a line at the top of the script in CAPITALS saying "READY FOR USE" |
| 03:38.59 | TJ- | dbarros: I'll also leave you a note on IRC via memoserv |
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| 03:39.17 | themill | veek: you have to make your own backport. there isn't one available yet |
| 03:39.23 | SirLagz | veek: because it's not already built...you'll need to either build it yourself or install packages from sid. |
| 03:39.42 | veek | ah.. |
| 03:39.46 | dbarros | TJ- ok please do that |
| 03:39.59 | dbarros | if this works I will paypal you |
| 03:40.07 | veek | hmm okay let me try building it |
| 03:40.43 | themill | veek: as judd indicated, you first need to backport 'fuse' and then try 'ntfs-3g' |
| 03:41.29 | hypermist | so im running debian mate, next thing i wanted to do was install some dependiencies im guessing since im using debian mate i dont have them sudo apt-get install sudo apt-get install build-essential libboost-all-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev libdb5.1-dev libdb5.1++-dev git qt-sdk libminiupnpc-dev |
| 03:41.34 | hypermist | was the command i ran |
| 03:41.35 | hypermist | lol |
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| 03:42.55 | veek | ah hmm.. apt-get remove libfuse2 decides to remove grub.. fuse grub-common grub-pc grub-pc-bin grub2-common libfuse2 |
| 03:43.11 | themill | why are you trying to do that? |
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| 03:43.49 | hypermist | so any solution to what i did. ? haha |
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| 03:43.54 | veek | themill, well ntfs-3g=2015 depends on libfuse2=2.9 which implies i would have to remove the existing old libfuse2 no? |
| 03:44.33 | SirLagz | veek: upgrade the existing one... |
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| 03:46.19 | themill | hypermist: you'd need to actually ask a question to get an answer. /msg dpkg ask |
| 03:46.54 | hypermist | themill, well i did ask how do i install basically those packages on debian mate |
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| 03:47.45 | themill | hypermist: no, you said you ran a command and then asked what the solution to an unspecified problem was. |
| 03:48.03 | veek | SirLagz, apt-get install --only-upgrade libfuse2 -t jessie-backports gives libfuse2 is already the newest version. <-- implies i need to build that as well for backports |
| 03:48.14 | themill | veek: yes, we've covered that. |
| 03:48.21 | themill | hypermist: I still have no idea what you're actually trying to do and what isn't working for you |
| 03:48.27 | hypermist | well themill it doesnt install. all those packages and i dont know why it just says package not found is it because im doing it on debian mate ? |
| 03:48.36 | themill | wtf is "debian mate"? |
| 03:48.46 | hypermist | Debian mate is debian mate its debian |
| 03:48.54 | shay_shay | hypermist: i assume you didnt actually type "sudo apt-get install sudo apt-get install" ? |
| 03:48.55 | themill | hypermist: right at last a detail... "it doesn't install"! |
| 03:49.15 | themill | hypermist: so perhaps you could actually provide some details about what did happen? |
| 03:49.39 | hypermist | themill, package not found |
| 03:49.40 | hypermist | Thats all i ahve |
| 03:49.41 | hypermist | Lol |
| 03:49.54 | hypermist | What else am i meant to provide that i dont have / |
| 03:49.58 | hypermist | Thats all my error |
| 03:50.05 | SirLagz | veek: yes |
| 03:50.14 | themill | hypermist: well that's much more detail than you provided before |
| 03:50.39 | themill | seriously, why do we have to have 10 min of back and forth to get the most basic information |
| 03:50.49 | SirLagz | themill: fun aint it |
| 03:50.51 | hypermist | Okay, yup i just said all i can |
| 03:50.57 | hypermist | It just says the packages aint found |
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| 03:51.05 | shay_shay | which package |
| 03:51.07 | hypermist | So Yup i'll give you some awesome imaginary erorrs that i dont have |
| 03:51.09 | hypermist | hands |
| 03:51.23 | themill | hypermist: next time, please do so to start with or at least after being asked the first time and not after 10 min of asking? |
| 03:51.32 | themill | hypermist: how about pastebinning the actually command and the entire output |
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| 03:52.00 | shay_shay | hypermist: http://hastebin.com/apogetugad.txt |
| 03:52.15 | shay_shay | hypermist: see how the output actually provided the package name? |
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| 03:52.36 | shay_shay | thats how it works. |
| 03:53.09 | hypermist | Well all of the packages say the same thing |
| 03:53.10 | hypermist | Thats why |
| 03:53.19 | SirLagz | hypermist: do what themill said. |
| 03:53.23 | hypermist | I'm trying |
| 03:53.27 | hypermist | but people keep throwing different stuff |
| 03:53.31 | themill | hypermist: full command and full output. Please stop being as annoying as possible |
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| 03:54.06 | hypermist | pastebin.cim/Si4DSgH8 |
| 03:54.10 | hypermist | .com * |
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| 03:54.19 | shay_shay | hypermist: nobody is throwing different stuff, themill told you to give is actual output and i was simply proving to you it would be more verbose than you think |
| 03:55.25 | themill | hypermist: so... next time. Please just give us useful stuff like that right in the beginning and not a list of reasons why you shouldn't. You'll get much better help if you don't spend your time trying to piss off the people who might help you |
| 03:55.30 | themill | !show sources.list hypermist |
| 03:55.30 | dpkg | hypermist: Please pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/*.list. The easiest way to do this is to pastebin the output of: head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} |
| 03:57.46 | hypermist | am i mean to run that head command with {,.d/*} on the end ? |
| 03:57.53 | themill | exactly what it says |
| 03:58.11 | hypermist | well when i did that it says sources.list.d/* not found |
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| 03:58.27 | shay_shay | :O |
| 03:58.45 | themill | I bet it says more than that |
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| 03:58.54 | hypermist | themill, i bet you it doesnt |
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| 03:59.27 | themill | then just give us the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list (and which shell are you using that doesn't like that syntax?) |
| 03:59.44 | hypermist | im using terminal mate terminal which is apart of debian mate |
| 04:00.46 | veek | is there a current up-2-date tutorial for building backports. I found this: https://www.mendix.com/tech-blog/debian-backports-an-introduction-and-tutorial/ |
| 04:01.03 | shay_shay | veek: you want personal backports? |
| 04:01.04 | hypermist | pastebin.com/E6shbheS |
| 04:01.10 | hypermist | there you go themill ^ |
| 04:01.26 | shay_shay | veek: /msg dpkg ssb |
| 04:02.23 | veek | shay_shay, well i was hoping for a 'non-personal' backports build (ntfs-3g is buggy with autofs in jessie) |
| 04:02.32 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:03.16 | shay_shay | veek: i mean, do you want to learn just to backport software for personal use |
| 04:03.39 | shay_shay | s/just// |
| 04:03.55 | veek | shay_shay, nope.. i want others to avoid the hassle as well |
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| 04:06.41 | shay_shay | veek: i imagine this wiki page is the best place to start : https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingFormalBackports |
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| 04:07.26 | hypermist | awaits his reply ;D haha |
| 04:07.53 | veek | shay_shay, ah yeah reading that (which is very confusing) |
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| 04:08.04 | Equa | hypermist: you're on debian jessie. your DE is mate. |
| 04:08.25 | hypermist | Equa, that maybe so but im not a debian expert so i wouldnt know |
| 04:08.50 | hypermist | either way my sources.list is like empty |
| 04:08.51 | hypermist | lOl |
| 04:09.01 | Equa | hypermist: good, you noticed the problem too :D |
| 04:09.03 | shay_shay | hypermist: why did you not paste the "sources.list.d/* not found" error? you already truncated the output from us several times, now it looks like your truncated the end off |
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| 04:09.22 | hypermist | shay_shay, reason cause themill asked me to post my sources.list ? |
| 04:09.41 | hypermist | then just give us the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:09.43 | hypermist | from themill |
| 04:10.01 | shay_shay | hypermist: he asked you to post the output of head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*} and "sources.list.d/* not found" is part of that, |
| 04:10.02 | Equa | hypermist: do /msg dpkg sources.list |
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| 04:11.32 | veek | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_build_toolchain (nice article) |
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| 04:14.31 | hypermist | did what you said Equa added them heh |
| 04:14.44 | Equa | hypermist: now do apt-get update. then install your packages |
| 04:15.14 | Equa | hypermist: might be nice to comment out the cd rom line. add the # in front of it |
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| 04:16.11 | hypermist | this may take awhile or it may take a little depending on what my internet wants to be like |
| 04:16.26 | hypermist | okay well that worked Equa |
| 04:16.27 | hypermist | ty |
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| 04:19.50 | shay_shay | veek: i just backported fish :D |
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| 04:21.19 | veek | shay_shay, how? |
| 04:21.40 | veek | shay_shay, i'm still staring at docs in a fugue |
| 04:21.53 | hypermist | lol Equa 30mins till all my depenedinces i wanted to be installed. well gg my internet |
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| 04:24.00 | shay_shay | veek: my process: 1. put sid deb-SRC in sources. 2. mk-build-deps -ir foo; dpkg -i foo-build-deps_1.1.1-1_all; apt-get -f install; apt-get source -b foo .... install resultant debs |
| 04:24.09 | shay_shay | er |
| 04:24.35 | shay_shay | sorry i kinda message that up |
| 04:25.00 | shay_shay | if you use mk-build-deps -ir you dont have to install the foo-build-deps package |
| 04:25.07 | shay_shay | because -ir automatically does it |
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| 04:26.01 | veek | hmm i need to read more.. this is all very confusing |
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| 04:26.36 | shay_shay | veek: this is the ssb method dpkg describes that i recommended to you earlier |
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| 04:26.49 | shay_shay | its best you learn that before you learn how to do a formal backport |
| 04:27.19 | shay_shay | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:30.13 | shay_shay | only difference is i use the mk-build-deps script in devscripts package |
| 04:30.27 | shay_shay | it makes a metapackage of all the build deps so you can keep track of them |
| 04:30.43 | shay_shay | if you uninstall the metapackage later you can autoremove them |
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| 04:42.50 | hypermist | how can i install libdb5.1-dev and lib libdb5.1++-dev both say not installation candidate |
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| 04:43.52 | Equa | hypermist: apt-cache search libdb5 |
| 04:44.24 | hypermist | ah ty Equa |
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| 05:51.45 | pcav | `aptitude install phppgadmin && a2enconf phppgadmin` results in `ERROR: Conf phppgadmin does not exist!` |
| 05:51.56 | pcav | am I doing something wrong? current sid |
| 05:54.02 | Equa | pcav: try one command at a time |
| 05:54.34 | pcav | tried |
| 05:54.37 | pcav | same thing |
| 05:54.45 | pcav | Equa: thanks |
| 05:55.32 | Equa | pcav: fixed? |
| 05:55.46 | pcav | not |
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| 05:56.09 | Equa | you need to have a phppgadmin conf file to enable it it |
| 05:57.13 | pcav | isn't it created at install? |
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| 05:58.12 | Equa | pcav: where are you getting your installation / setup instructions? |
| 05:58.29 | pcav | I installed it many times |
| 05:58.45 | pcav | I do not why now it is not working |
| 05:59.07 | Equa | pcav: use find or locate to find the file |
| 05:59.12 | pcav | I just install from package, normally I just had to uncomment Require local |
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| 06:01.01 | Equa | pcav: have you followed the guide here ? https://wiki.debian.org/PhpPgAdmin |
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| 06:03.30 | pcav | this is obsolete |
| 06:03.35 | pcav | I'm on sid |
| 06:04.50 | Equa | pcav: do you have a file /etc/apache2/conf.d/phppgadmin ? |
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| 06:06.50 | pcav | Equa: not |
| 06:07.15 | Equa | pcav: use a find or locate to look for it. your system is having trouble locating it |
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| 06:08.03 | pcav | I have: /etc/apache2/conf-available/phppgadmin.conf |
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| 06:08.19 | Equa | pcav: go to that direcotyr and do the command to enable it |
| 06:08.26 | pcav | done |
| 06:08.32 | Equa | should be good now |
| 06:08.40 | pcav | apparently it's apache who has problems: |
| 06:09.00 | pcav | â apache2.service - LSB: Apache2 web server |
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| 06:09.42 | pcav | https://paste.debian.net/310321/ |
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| 06:11.21 | veek | what exactly does apt-get source ntfs-3g do? (from testing) it gets 3 files (dsc, tar, diff) |
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| 06:12.14 | veek | but then it does some unpacking/patching after that and i can't make sense of what is on disk |
| 06:12.36 | veek | there's a .dsc .gz and .xz and a dir |
| 06:12.40 | veek | on disk |
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| 06:13.28 | shay_shay | veek: you typically want to have a deb-src line in your sources for sid.. cd to the source directory and "dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc" |
| 06:13.56 | shay_shay | but if you use "apt-get source -b ntfs-3g" it will happen automatically |
| 06:14.51 | shay_shay | if you omit the -b then it's typically because you want to go into the source directory to apply a patch before compiling |
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| 06:16.32 | veek | shay_shay, ah hmm.. but i'm trying to understand this whole thing (at least somewhat) |
| 06:16.42 | veek | thanks let me try that anyway |
| 06:16.45 | shay_shay | here is my sources.list https://gist.githubusercontent.com/shawnbon206/f7327c3f9d0d1a246a2f/raw/2bc362a96fb2263bcf6c5f4fc44a1a8547d0b5e3/sources.list |
| 06:16.54 | shay_shay | see i have sid as a deb-src |
| 06:17.01 | veek | yes i have unstable added to apt |
| 06:17.23 | shay_shay | just make sure you didnt add a sid "deb" line |
| 06:17.41 | veek | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian unstable main |
| 06:17.57 | shay_shay | :) |
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| 06:18.19 | jwaibel | urgs |
| 06:18.45 | pcav | Equa: apache fails to reload |
| 06:18.59 | shay_shay | veek: the most basic method: apt-get build-deps foo; apt-get -b source foo |
| 06:19.13 | shay_shay | if you omit the -b it will download the source only |
| 06:19.45 | Equa | pcav: i don't know why it's not able to get a pid. maybe a misconfiguration? i don't have that problem on stable. since you're on sid try #debian-next on oftc |
| 06:20.01 | shay_shay | s/-deps/dep |
| 06:20.15 | shay_shay | brain shutting down |
| 06:20.39 | jwaibel | drips some coffee in to make shay_shay work again |
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| 06:26.00 | veek | shay_shay, why shouldn't i add a deb-src line for sid/unstable? |
| 06:26.17 | veek | shay_shay, i was thinking of backporting ntfs-3g from that |
| 06:26.45 | shay_shay | veek: thats what you should do |
| 06:27.24 | shay_shay | some people mistakenly add a "deb" line instead of a "deb-src" line when reading the instructions |
| 06:27.24 | veek | ah okay |
| 06:27.26 | shay_shay | you did it right |
| 06:29.20 | pcav | Equa: thanks |
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| 06:29.55 | Equa | pcav: np. good luck |
| 06:30.47 | pcav | Equa: debina-next is not on IRC? |
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| 06:31.15 | Equa | pcav: #debian-next on oftc |
| 06:32.36 | Equa | pcav: irc.oftc.net or irc.debian.org |
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| 06:33.00 | pcav | ok, thanks |
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| 06:52.22 | veek | how do i apt-get source -b with dependencies (i'm manually having to do it) |
| 06:53.03 | nkuttler | veek: apt-get build-dep |
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| 07:05.12 | veek | The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a release is not available in the sources <-- my sources.list has a line for 'unstable so why am i seeing this? |
| 07:05.48 | themill | Aren't you trying to backport a package? |
| 07:06.11 | veek | themill yep trying to understand apt and compiling and stuff |
| 07:06.20 | veek | it's a huge frigging mystery |
| 07:06.39 | themill | so you shouldn't be setting Default-Release (and you shouldn't need to). |
| 07:06.45 | veek | i've read this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian_build_toolchain |
| 07:07.45 | themill | none of that is really relevant to quickly building a simple backport |
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| 07:08.11 | veek | themill, umm i have no idea what Default-Release is it's not listed in /etc/apt |
| 07:08.39 | themill | I have no idea what you're doing |
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| 07:10.09 | Filystyn | file with envirome nt variables |
| 07:10.16 | Filystyn | where |
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| 07:16.56 | jelly | Filystyn: read /msg dpkg environment |
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| 07:18.31 | Filystyn | thank you env did the job anyway |
| 07:18.33 | Filystyn | ;-) |
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| 08:16.11 | pragomer1 | I made a group "sambausers"... put 2 test-users in it... chown sambausers to the share.... is that ok? |
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| 08:37.05 | fishiez | used to play URT. great game, until bots started getting added to servers |
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| 08:38.59 | repxl | i don't know what the fu ck happened with the debian jessie but i recently updated upgradad my system and now it allways take like 20 minutes to turn on , because there is some red loading bar saying something about LBS |
| 08:39.19 | repxl | really annyoing |
| 08:39.29 | rozie | what is LBS? |
| 08:39.37 | rootd00d | fishiez: eh, i'm trying to do something kinda specific. compiling old mods i used to use in windows back in 1999... |
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| 08:40.50 | Ticho | LBS or LSB ? |
| 08:40.57 | repxl | rozie "a start job is running for LSB : raise network interf / no limit" |
| 08:41.09 | repxl | waiting 20mins and finally it turned on |
| 08:41.27 | repxl | already kicked in my pc with my foot 5 times , fucking updates i dont really know what happend rly. |
| 08:42.14 | repxl | some updates in this world really do things worse not better ... also on the android shitties. |
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| 08:42.41 | repxl | anyway can someone tell me how i can turn this LSB off ? |
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| 08:47.06 | repxl | i regret i did a upgrade on my debian |
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| 08:47.31 | rozie | just debug. kicking ps won't help |
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| 08:49.50 | repxl | rozie i dont have time for any linux debug and finding out what is the problem i really dont care also it doesn't ride me, im a php dev do u have some good command for reset the version |
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| 08:53.22 | rozie | reset the version? you mean downgrade? |
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| 08:54.10 | markybob | repxl, if you really don't care...why should we care to help you? |
| 08:54.30 | at0m | i don't have time. but there's coffee :) |
| 08:54.33 | markybob | repxl, your attitude is shit |
| 08:54.45 | rozie | Debian does not support (automatic) downgrade nor whole release (Jessie -> Wheezy), nor single packages |
| 08:54.51 | markybob | rozie, no |
| 08:54.55 | markybob | !downgrade |
| 08:54.55 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 08:55.09 | rozie | ;) |
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| 08:59.17 | repxl | markybob my attitude is shit, but why does the debian updates make things worser then actually save some devs time. actually you do a update and thing you did a good job however u didn't |
| 09:00.08 | markybob | repxl, i didn't? okay. good luck |
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| 09:02.07 | repxl | markybob anyway reinstalling to stock 8 ppl must spend first some hours on a debian to actually can start work. (lovely XAMPP devs) |
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| 09:04.46 | jelly | repxl: not all users are devs. Also if you're having trouble at startup and don't have time to debug, you can try switching back to sysvinit |
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| 09:18.24 | FilipeMaia | Is there a simple way to temporarily disable all user logins? |
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| 09:22.15 | markybob | FilipeMaia, passwd -l should do what you want |
| 09:22.58 | FilipeMaia | markybob: even if the login is through ldap? |
| 09:23.12 | FilipeMaia | markybob: and i have to do that for every user? |
| 09:23.13 | markybob | FilipeMaia, uh...i don't know |
| 09:23.22 | markybob | haven't used ldap in ages |
| 09:23.50 | markybob | FilipeMaia, and yes it'd be for each user. but you can script it |
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| 09:23.55 | Sabaku | FilipeMaia: set loginShell attribut to /bin/false |
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| 09:24.04 | Sabaku | for each user |
| 09:24.24 | FilipeMaia | thatâs a bit better |
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| 09:24.44 | Sabaku | but you need to modify all your dn |
| 09:24.56 | FilipeMaia | yea, thatâs why itâs just a bit better :) |
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| 09:25.48 | Sabaku | FilipeMaia: copy your /bin/bash to /bin/bash.old, symlink /bon/bash to /bin/false, and set up user with /bin/bash.old from shell |
| 09:26.22 | FilipeMaia | Sabaku: that sounds like the easiest |
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| 09:26.38 | FilipeMaia | Has a slight problem of also screwing root login |
| 09:27.08 | Sabaku | set up /bin/sh for root login, and manually /bin/bash.old |
| 09:27.13 | jelly | !nologin |
| 09:27.14 | dpkg | it has been said that nologin is a replacement shell (man 8 nologin) for user accounts that have been disabled, or a method (man 5 nologin) to prevent all non-root users from logging into a system. |
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| 09:28.43 | er4z0r | what is the main advantage over /bin/false? |
| 09:28.55 | er4z0r | the "polite" part? ;-) |
| 09:29.34 | markybob | jelly, that'll work with his ldap? |
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| 09:30.38 | jelly | markybob: nologin(5)? Maybe. "TIAS" |
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| 09:40.03 | veek | rmadison mame --architecture amd64 <-- what does this do? are there any reasonably short docs that explain the important pkg management tools and arch |
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| 09:40.38 | veek | Oo okay mame is a pkg |
| 09:40.52 | veek | and it lists all the availiable pkgs for arch |
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| 09:48.09 | SynrG | i wouldn't exactly call rmadison "important pkg management tools". it's in devscripts, which is principally of interest to debian developers, not users. |
| 09:48.27 | SynrG | if you happen to find it useful, well and good. |
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| 09:49.17 | SynrG | typically users use apt-file & apt-cache, and are only interested in their own architecture. |
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| 09:54.03 | pecisk | I am creating systemd unit file for my new shiny daemon. Copy to /lib/sytemd/system is enough righ? After that systemctl enable daemon? |
| 09:54.11 | veek | i'm trying to do a simple backports install of ntfs-3g. I download the pkgs using dget which extracts the src, then cd ntfs-3g etc and mk-build-deps. Here it prompts for dependencies "The following extra packages will be installed:" libfuse <-- what i want to know is if libfuse that will be installed will be from sid or from jessie? |
| 09:54.46 | Amun_Ra | ,v ntfs-3g |
| 09:54.47 | judd | Package: ntfs-3g on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:2010.3.6-1; squeeze-security-lts: 1:2010.3.6-1+deb6u2; wheezy: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1; wheezy-security: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1:2012.1.15AR.5-2.1+deb7u2; jessie-security: 1:2014.2.15AR.2-1+deb8u2; jessie: 1:2014.2.15AR.2-1+deb8u2; stretch: 1:2014.2.15AR.3-3; sid: 1:2015.3.14AR.1-1 |
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| 09:56.26 | Amun_Ra | veek: if you have jessie and sid in sources list - the one with higher version |
| 09:56.34 | SynrG | pecisk: well, i would say for unpackaged locally provided unit files, /usr/local/lib/systemd/system is appropriate. |
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| 09:56.55 | veek | Amun_Ra, ah okay so sid.. thanks |
| 09:56.57 | SynrG | pecisk: but even better than that would be to package your shiny new daemon properly |
| 09:57.15 | veek | Amun_Ra, could you point me to a src that explains all this stuff within a reasonable time frame |
| 09:57.17 | pcav | Ign http://ftp.no.debian.org jessie InRelease/partial/ftp.no.debian.org_debian_dists_jessie_InRelease into data and signature failed |
| 09:57.17 | pcav | Fetched 2,823 B in 9s (307 B/s) |
| 09:57.17 | pcav | E: GPG error: http://ftp.no.debian.org jessie InRelease: Clearsigned file isn't valid, got 'NODATA' (does the network require authentication?) |
| 09:57.25 | SynrG | pecisk: see man systemd, "DIRECTORIES" |
| 09:57.30 | marc1 | Oh I had the same thing. |
| 09:57.35 | pcav | anyone knows how to fix this? |
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| 09:57.54 | marc1 | I just used another repo. |
| 09:57.57 | marc1 | Do you want to try? |
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| 09:59.01 | SynrG | Amun_Ra, veek: not exactly. it will be from the one with the higher version except where pin priorities dictate otherwise. |
| 09:59.12 | Amun_Ra | SynrG: yes |
| 09:59.33 | marc1 | deb http://debian.intergenia.de/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 09:59.44 | marc1 | Intergenia works without NODATA error for me. |
| 09:59.55 | marc1 | Same for debian-security. |
| 09:59.57 | SynrG | veek: and in general, when backporting things, dependencies should be satisfied from the target release unless a strict relationship requires that they not be |
| 10:00.08 | pecisk | SynrG, I am trying to package it btw, trying to figure out where in control cripts I have to enable it |
| 10:00.14 | pecisk | t.i. enable unit file |
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| 10:00.27 | SynrG | veek: so if your debian/control doesn't indicate a versioned dep, it's fine to satisfy that dep from stable. |
| 10:00.37 | Amun_Ra | veek: man apt-get, apt.conf, apt_preferences |
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| 10:01.22 | veek | thanks SynrG |
| 10:01.33 | SynrG | pecisk: ok, if you are packaging it then /lib/systemd/system is appropriate. but in that case, maybe you should be asking these questions on #debian-mentors @ irc.oftc.net which is about packaging |
| 10:01.41 | pcav | marc1: nope, same error |
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| 10:02.24 | yei | hola |
| 10:03.33 | SynrG | veek: or sometimes a versioned (source) dep will be specified in debian/control but it is sufficiently old that it *can* be satisfied from stable. judd knows how to check whether deps can or cannot be satisfied. ask it: /msg judd checkdepends packagename |
| 10:04.00 | SynrG | veek: oops, wrong: checkbackport packagename |
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| 10:05.17 | SynrG | veek: and if those dependencies are not satisfiable, you then need to arrange to backport each dependency yourself. this is no longer in the realm of "simple" backports :) |
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| 10:06.18 | veek | one other thing i noticed was that when i do mk-build-deps --install --remove he installs binary dependencies from sid/unstable since that's in ny sources.list? so why do i have to go through the whole process of trying to backport for jessie?? why can't i just install ntfs-3g from sid/unstable? |
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| 10:08.42 | SynrG | veek: your sources.list is broken. you run the risk now of breaking your whole system. fix it now. |
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| 10:09.06 | SynrG | you've failed one of the steps of the 'ssb' factoid: |
| 10:09.08 | SynrG | !ssb |
| 10:09.09 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 10:09.28 | SynrG | veek: do you see anywhere in there it says to add a 'deb' line for sid? it does not! |
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| 10:09.51 | veek | ah! |
| 10:10.00 | veek | okay thanks, yes that makes sense |
| 10:10.01 | SynrG | i hope you haven't installed much from there |
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| 10:10.22 | SynrG | check your logs and see. you should immediately remove/downgrade anything that got pulled from sid |
| 10:10.26 | veek | uninstalling it now |
| 10:10.31 | veek | i haven't rebooted |
| 10:11.22 | SynrG | the idea of backporting is to take the *source* from a later release, and build it using stuff entirely from stable as build-deps/deps (or sometimes stable + stable-backports) |
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| 10:11.50 | SynrG | this is not always easily accomplished due to deep dependency chains that are not backported (yet) |
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| 10:12.03 | veek | woe is me.. it removed grub! :( |
| 10:12.25 | oxachloren | Just install it again. |
| 10:12.30 | veek | yeah |
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| 10:20.43 | aZz7eCh | do you know how veek? |
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| 10:23.30 | rozie | repxl: it's really sad when people do things they shouldn't. sysadmins/devops should perform upgrades. it's their job. if you wish to do somebody's job - fine, but take responsibility |
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| 10:24.00 | veek | aZz7eCh, how to install, yeah kind of.. i first need to purge my system of unstable (apt-get remove) then apt-get install all the stuff i removed (by look at what was removed) |
| 10:24.19 | rozie | and Debian does NOT break by default this way. I'd bet that were some strange things configured and/or upgrade wasn't done exactly as it should |
| 10:24.47 | rozie | AND release notes clearly says, that you should have a backup and restore plan |
| 10:24.49 | oxachloren | Downgrading from unstable is gonna leave machine in total mess. |
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| 10:28.52 | veek | amy quick way to check if there are any unstable pkgs leftover |
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| 10:29.31 | oxachloren | Pin everything to stable. |
| 10:29.38 | oxachloren | And perform dist-upgrade. |
| 10:29.45 | oxachloren | APT will downgrade lefovers for you. |
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| 10:29.56 | oxachloren | But once again, this can leave your machine in a total mess. |
| 10:30.25 | oxachloren | Why can't you just reinstall the system. |
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| 10:31.56 | veek | i don't think it's bad as that.. checking anyway a sec |
| 10:32.01 | oxachloren | I'd advise to downgrade to testing, so transition will be more smooth. |
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| 10:32.27 | veek | created a preferences file in /etc/apt/preferences.d and setup pinning to stable |
| 10:32.49 | oxachloren | That's right, just pin everything and edit sources.list. |
| 10:33.06 | oxachloren | Then during dist-upgrade APT will downgrade leftover packages. |
| 10:33.16 | veek | are there any docs that explain in a nice readable manner (books?) the whole apt pinning/apt pkg management thing |
| 10:33.29 | veek | internals/architecture |
| 10:33.40 | veek | so that i can visualise whats going on |
| 10:33.48 | oxachloren | Package: * |
| 10:33.55 | oxachloren | Pin: release a=jessie |
| 10:34.08 | oxachloren | Pin-Priority: 1337 |
| 10:34.18 | veek | yep i used 700 |
| 10:34.19 | oxachloren | I don't really remember any docs, pinning isn't hard. |
| 10:34.28 | oxachloren | It tells APT to prefer packages from your pins. |
| 10:34.40 | oxachloren | Depending on their priority. |
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| 10:35.23 | oxachloren | On Debian 7, I had always been pinning MariaDB reposity to avoid conflicts with MySQL. |
| 10:35.42 | oxachloren | Therefore APT has always preferred packages from MariaDB repository. |
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| 10:36.52 | lichtscheu | Which Distribution is used by real Linux Gurus? |
| 10:37.14 | Night-Shade | slackware or gentoo :p |
| 10:37.29 | Night-Shade | thou I hear coreos is where it's at now in the cloud |
| 10:38.19 | lichtscheu | Hm |
| 10:38.38 | veek | yep okay - everything is as it should be :) |
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| 10:51.57 | veek | i'm getting dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 (used by debian/ntfs-3g/usr/bin/ntfsdecrypt) |
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| 10:52.07 | veek | Hint: check if the library actually comes from a package. |
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| 10:52.30 | veek | i get that when i do: dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc |
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| 10:55.42 | d3lphi | anyone has an idea why Plymouth stopped working after I did upgraded my Debian Jessie some days ago? The last update was 4 weeks before. I did see I got a new linux-image installed. But even a "plymouth-set-default-them -R mytheme" helped while a new initrd was built. /etc/default/grub looks fine to me, too. |
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| 11:14.05 | Haris | hello all |
| 11:14.11 | Haris | how do I update jessy ? |
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| 11:16.10 | veek | at dist-upgrade |
| 11:16.21 | veek | Haris, apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 11:16.55 | Stummi | aptitude update before ... |
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| 11:17.29 | Stummi | and better aptitude full-upgrade instead of apt-get |
| 11:18.16 | oxachloren | It's better to use APT. |
| 11:18.26 | Haris | gnn |
| 11:18.27 | Haris | hmm |
| 11:18.28 | Haris | ok |
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| 11:20.26 | veek | i'm getting dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 (used by debian/ntfs-3g/usr/bin/ntfsdecrypt) |
| 11:20.29 | veek | Hint: check if the library actually comes from a package. |
| 11:20.41 | veek | i checked and the file is from a pkg |
| 11:20.49 | Che-Anarc | What do I need to install if my instances doesnt have `locale-gen` ? - trying out a Debian docker image. |
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| 11:22.23 | oxachloren | Perhaps locales package is what you need. |
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| 11:27.33 | d3lphi | damn it, my connection crashed. Did anyone maybe reply to my last question relating plymouth? unfortunately I had to reboot and cannot post it any more because I don't have it in my IRC client history :( |
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| 11:28.01 | fireba11 | nope |
| 11:30.37 | Mohamed_DZ | I can't find Right-To-Left button in toolbar "Impress" |
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| 11:31.11 | d3lphi | I am running Debian Jessie with gdm3 and gnome-shell. I have following issue: when I reboot my computer and see the login screen for the first time,on the upper right corner I don't see the keyboard language icon where I can switch the keyboard input language. Even not when I click on the "Settings" icon next to the LOGIN button. That leads in the issue.. |
| 11:32.04 | d3lphi | ... that my password is NOT ACCEPTED because it contains special characters. It seems my default language/keyboard is not selected on the first start of gdm3 login screen. I even cannot switch it with META+SPACE hotkey that works fine when I am logged in and inside a session though. Any clues ? |
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| 11:34.27 | Mohamed_DZ | can you help me with Impress? |
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| 11:35.37 | veek | dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 what's going here since this is a sym link to another file |
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| 11:37.26 | er4z0r | d3lphi: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638353 |
| 11:37.27 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/638353 in gdm3 (open): «Cannot choose login language»; severity: normal; opened: 2011-08-18; last modified: 2012-11-29. |
| 11:37.57 | er4z0r | d3lphi: The userâs language is now stored in AccountsService. It can be set |
| 11:37.59 | er4z0r | within gnome-control-center or using the DBus interface. |
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| 11:39.29 | Mohamed_DZ | where can I find RTL button in Impress? doesn't appears on toolbar |
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| 11:42.01 | er4z0r | Mohamed_DZ: wrong channel |
| 11:42.48 | er4z0r | Mohamed_DZ: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Users/IRC |
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| 11:43.49 | Mohamed_DZ | er4z0r: sorry & thanks |
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| 11:44.08 | er4z0r | Mohamed_DZ: never mind. good luck .) |
| 11:44.48 | Mohamed_DZ | er4z0r: there no like button here (y) LOL! |
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| 11:48.07 | chozha | hi |
| 11:48.40 | chozha | how to create a bootable debian in USB from Debian terminal |
| 11:49.08 | Mohamed_DZ | dd command |
| 11:49.26 | chozha | okay md |
| 11:49.28 | fnstudio | hi! i go with my mouse on the top right of the screen and open the drop down menu; then click on the settings button to access the system configuration panel; it doesn't work, nothing happens |
| 11:49.34 | fnstudio | i'm on sid |
| 11:49.41 | fnstudio | any suggestions? |
| 11:49.55 | Mohamed_DZ | chozha: google it I have to go now, sorry |
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| 11:50.09 | chozha | Mohamed_DZ, , thanks |
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| 11:50.22 | fnstudio | i tried and removed my `.config` folder and started with an empty one - that didn't help |
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| 11:51.44 | fnstudio | also, the "switch user" function doesn't work - i click on the corresponding menu item (again in the drop down menu that open on the top right side of the screen) but nothing happens |
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| 11:52.03 | d3lphi | er4z0r: so you mean I have to look into gnome-control-center and there under "Users" ? When I do this, the language for my user is set correct. There is no other setting that I can define explicitely for the keyboard/language. |
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| 11:52.35 | er4z0r | d3lphi: did you look into the file mentioned at the end of the discussion? |
| 11:53.47 | d3lphi | by that, do you mean? --> As already stated, this is an upstream design change in 3.4 that I |
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| 11:53.50 | d3lphi | completely disagree with, and Iâll happily accept patches that add back |
| 11:53.50 | d3lphi | ? |
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| 11:53.53 | d3lphi | keyboard selection to the login screen. |
| 11:54.47 | er4z0r | d3lphi: /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$user |
| 11:54.54 | d3lphi | /var/lib/AccountsService/users/$user contains the correct value |
| 11:55.01 | d3lphi | Language=de_DE.utf8 |
| 11:55.14 | d3lphi | XSession=default and SystemAccount=false that looks ok for me |
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| 11:55.51 | er4z0r | d3lphi: have you tried asking in gnome related channels? might get luckier there |
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| 11:56.57 | d3lphi | er4z0r: ok, however thank you for that link that helped me understanding what's wrong |
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| 11:58.03 | d3lphi | anyone has an idea why plymouth doesn't work any more on my Debian Jessie machine since I ran "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" a few days ago? The last time I upgraded this machine was about 4 weeks ago and plymouth worked fine. "plymouth-set-default-theme -R mytheme" didn't help either and /etc/default/grub looks fine for me,too |
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| 11:59.41 | er4z0r | !plymouth |
| 11:59.41 | dpkg | Plymouth presents a graphic animation while the boot process occurs in the background. It is designed to be used with <DRM> modesetting drivers and replaces both <usplash> and <splashy>. Read /usr/share/doc/plymouth/README.Debian to enable. http://wiki.debian.org/plymouth http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/Plymouth #plymouth on irc.freenode.net. |
| 12:00.49 | chozha | er4z0r, thanks .. |
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| 12:06.25 | fnstudio | ah, as for the disappeared gnome control center window, it was just because the corresponding package got removed at some point - i installed it back, all working fine now - thanks |
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| 12:40.50 | blah- | how to fix this |
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| 12:41.55 | blah- | i wanted to loin my ssh host on my terminal but there is an error |
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| 12:42.28 | blah- | WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED |
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| 12:44.09 | jelly | blah-: this can mean a number of things, one of which is "someone is trying to actively take over your connection so watch out" |
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| 12:45.09 | jelly | blah-: so you need to answer a few things: 1) did your server get reinstalled recently? did it change IP address and reuse the IP address of hostname of an older server? |
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| 12:46.02 | jelly | blah-: 2) can you login at the console of said remote machine and verify with "ssh localhost" you're getting the same host key as from remote? |
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| 12:49.10 | jelly | blah-: in other words, you need to make sure you're actually connecting to the right machine. If you are, you can follow the instructions from ssh's output that you did not care to paste. There's a line in the output that tells how to use ssh-keygen -R to remove previous old keys from ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
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| 12:50.04 | chozha | hi i am getting this error "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt" in creating a bootable debian usb using terminal dd cmd |
| 12:50.19 | [Gunner] | hi i've got two nics one for local network (eth0), static ip assigned and dhcpd server configured for only eth0 and the other is internet nic (eth2) also set static ip. The problem is that every two days my ip changes on eth2 (internet nic). And i dont know how to solve this, there is no dhcp request from eth2 in syslog. |
| 12:50.24 | chozha | help needed |
| 12:51.06 | jelly | chozha: show the exact dd command you used. |
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| 12:52.10 | chozha | wait jelly |
| 12:52.38 | chozha | dd if=/mnt/software/Windows.7.SP1.ENG.x86-x64.MAFIAA.iso of=/dev/sdb1 && sync |
| 12:52.56 | jelly | chozha: write the image to /dev/sdb, not /dev/sdb1 |
| 12:52.59 | chozha | both for windows and debian it showing like this |
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| 12:53.26 | chozha | ? dev/sdb is uefi partition jelly |
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| 12:53.49 | petn-randall | chozha: No, /dev/sdb is the block device itself, whereas /dev/sdb1 is the first partition. |
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| 12:54.22 | chozha | no such dev is showing at fdisk -l |
| 12:54.45 | jelly | chozha: also, you may have to ask ##windows what's the correct way to create a bootable windows image from linux. If it was a debian installer image, the right thing to do would be to write it to /dev/sdb instead of sdb1 |
| 12:54.51 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: How is eth2 configure to connect to the internet? |
| 12:55.14 | chozha | jelly, cp /mnt/software/debian-live-8.1.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso /dev/sdb1 && sync |
| 12:55.24 | jelly | chozha: again, NOT /dev/sdb1 |
| 12:55.29 | jelly | just /dev/sdb |
| 12:55.33 | chozha | O.o |
| 12:55.44 | blah- | jelly: done and thank u |
| 12:55.49 | blah- | it's ok now :) |
| 12:55.50 | chozha | leme check jelly , have to umount it |
| 12:55.56 | jelly | hopes repeating three times is enough |
| 12:56.08 | jelly | chozha: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid |
| 12:56.16 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: in /etc/network/interfaces is set static ip, gateway, dns |
| 12:56.39 | petn-randall | chozha: And the device should _not_ be mounted when you overwrite it. |
| 12:57.03 | chozha | ok petn-randall |
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| 12:57.09 | [Gunner] | internet and everything is running fine until something changes ip and gateway on eth2 and i dont know where this request is comming from |
| 12:57.35 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: Maybe a rogue dhcp client running on eth2? |
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| 12:57.39 | [Gunner] | then i restart networking and everything works ok |
| 12:57.45 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: From what to what does it get changed? |
| 12:58.05 | [Gunner] | what do you mean? |
| 12:58.34 | chozha | O.o |
| 12:58.47 | blah- | how to fix -> i cannot copy and paste on the terminal |
| 12:58.48 | [Gunner] | can i disable dhcp client for eth2 only? |
| 12:59.06 | oxachloren | Ctrl+Shift+V |
| 12:59.07 | fnstudio | \quit |
| 12:59.18 | chozha | how to check the lease time of ip which is assigned to our host by router ? |
| 12:59.30 | blah- | the command shift+ctrl+c and shift+ctrl+v |
| 12:59.34 | blah- | is not waorking |
| 12:59.48 | oxachloren | What desktop environment are you running. |
| 12:59.53 | blah- | oxachloren: is not working on my window |
| 12:59.57 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: Not really. I'm asking what configuration it has normally, and what it gets changed into. The 2nd part might give you a hint where the error is. |
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| 12:59.59 | blah- | fxce |
| 13:00.00 | chozha | setting --> keyboard --> shortcut ?? blah- |
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| 13:00.25 | blah- | is there any way to fix this? |
| 13:00.33 | oxachloren | Well in xfce4-terminal you paste with Ctrl+Shift+V indeed, I don't know why it doesn't work. |
| 13:00.42 | chozha | :D |
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| 13:01.00 | blah- | sigh |
| 13:01.12 | chozha | hmm |
| 13:02.31 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: ip changes from 93.103.218.150 to 89.212.212.224 and broadcast changes from |
| 13:02.31 | chozha | jelly, just followed your instruction going to check ,,, |
| 13:02.49 | chozha | brb |
| 13:02.49 | blah- | anyone can help me pls? |
| 13:03.14 | aruna | hi, setting up a server ( well trying to ) what are the things to watch out for and any tools that can help with monitoring and tweaking performance please ? It is my first time with a server so please be gentle :) |
| 13:03.18 | [Gunner] | 93.103.255.255 to 89.212.0.0 |
| 13:04.27 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: looks like hdcp client pouts request for new ip and hdcp server from isp gives him one and then gets changes |
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| 13:04.53 | oxachloren | Downgrade to xfce4-terminal from 2009, it has its own shortcuts you can edit. |
| 13:04.58 | oxachloren | 10/10 |
| 13:05.10 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: what if i uninstall dhcp client would that help? |
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| 13:05.29 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: It might, but do you know is the dhcp client that changes it? |
| 13:06.26 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: whats the thing, i dont know that, but ip that i get seems like the one that people that has dynamic ip has. |
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| 13:07.34 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: Just to verify, it's not the IP range that get's handed out on the LAN side, right? |
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| 13:07.50 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: what does 'ps auxw | grep dhc' say? |
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| 13:09.31 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: no ip's are different dhcp server provides ips 192.168.0.10-70 |
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| 13:09.53 | chozha | jelly, wow thanks .... |
| 13:09.58 | aZz7eCh | ... |
| 13:10.10 | chozha | you have solved a week old problem |
| 13:10.40 | jelly | chozha: eh, it wasn't me who solved it, it was the people who wrote the install guide, 6 months ago |
| 13:11.14 | chozha | it worked , fdisk -l , df -hm doesnt show partition name like /dev/sdb , its just showing like devsdb1 |
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| 13:11.26 | chozha | so only confused jelly |
| 13:11.33 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: ok so this i missed: dhclient -v -pf /run/dhclient.eth2.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth2.leases eth2 |
| 13:11.52 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: That's your problem ;) |
| 13:12.03 | petn-randall | [Gunner]: kill that process, and you should be fine. |
| 13:12.20 | [Gunner] | petn-randall: yeah.. :) Thanks for all the help! |
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| 13:13.06 | jelly | chozha: well, writing the whole device creates a new partition table and a new /dev/sdb1 partition (it exists inside the .iso already) |
| 13:13.53 | chozha | okay jelly !!! |
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| 13:26.11 | dpkg | petn-randall: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 13:30.49 | intelikey | why would PS1='\u@\h > ' yeld a prompt of "I have no name!@localhost > " ??? anyone know what can cause this ? |
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| 13:33.51 | intelikey | or where does the var \n come from ? |
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| 13:36.06 | intelikey | never mind. i found it. permissions on /etc/passwd file too tight. thanks anyway. sort of. |
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| 13:38.55 | soundtoxin | Anyone here using both Debian Stretch and tint2? Sometime in the last week or so the battery percentage/time remaining thing appeared at the end of my tint2 bar even though I'm on my desktop... |
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| 13:44.00 | scottj | "head -c 100 /dev/random" is not terminating on my computer, it might take a minute or two despite me moving mouse, opening browser tab, and watching videos with mpv. what can I do to find out why it's not terminating more quickly and resolve it? |
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| 13:44.40 | Mohamed_DZ | !sing susstudio |
| 13:45.09 | oxachloren | Try to wait a bit and then check again. |
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| 13:46.03 | oxachloren | Your system might not be generating enough randomness for /dev/random. |
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| 13:46.38 | jelly | scottj: why do you need to run that? |
| 13:46.40 | oxachloren | Have you tried /dev/urandom? |
| 13:47.19 | scottj | jelly: I was using a diceware program (password generator) and it wasn't ending |
| 13:47.21 | jelly | wonders which software requires 800bits of random seed |
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| 13:47.54 | oxachloren | /dev/random is blocking. |
| 13:47.58 | scottj | is there a way to check which programs are using /dev/random (or using up the entropy?). |
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| 13:48.13 | scottj | I mean, maybe I'm not creating enough, or maybe there's something using too much |
| 13:48.28 | oxachloren | None that I know of, but why not /dev/urandom? |
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| 13:49.46 | scottj | oxachloren: just cause the program came hardcoded to /dev/random. I may end up using urandom |
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| 13:50.12 | scottj | btw, does /dev/random only use the entropy created from when you start reading from it? (like it doesn't store previous entropy) |
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| 13:50.40 | oxachloren | I'm not sure about that, but /dev/random blocks when entropy pool is empty. |
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| 13:50.41 | Miesco | Hi. How would one make their arrow keys also work as home/end/pgup/pgdn? |
| 13:50.57 | oxachloren | If you read too often, it's gonna be empty, that's why I suggested to wait a little bit. |
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| 13:51.16 | zykotick9 | scottj: sidenote, your "head -c /dev/random" is working on my box, which is encoding a movie right now so load is around 2 |
| 13:51.41 | A|an | Question: Bay Trail and Haswell are two separate processors, correct? |
| 13:51.56 | scottj | oxachloren: yeah, this happened though after 4 hours uptime on first read. |
| 13:52.03 | A|an | sorry, wrong screen |
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| 13:52.20 | scottj | oxachloren: like afaik I hadn't used /dev/random, so I thought maybe there's a program using it I'm not aware of. |
| 13:52.53 | jelly | scottj: it stores bits, there's a pool. (cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail) |
| 13:53.11 | smartass | hi, is there some tool that finds which installed packages that are marked as manually installed but could be makred as autoinstalled without them being removed? |
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| 13:54.21 | zykotick9 | smartass: check out apt-mark i'd guess... |
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| 14:04.46 | oxachloren | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:05.58 | jelly | oxachloren: something in your client pastes lines with a single space into the channel every now and then |
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| 14:11.37 | oxachloren | It's me getting used to using space as master key, I'm sorry about that. |
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| 14:16.14 | vista__ | Hey, I am having some trouble getting dhclient to accept classless static routes sent by DNSmasq |
| 14:16.44 | vista__ | I have tried everything up to google's page 5, nothing helped |
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| 14:26.13 | somiaj | vista__: not really a solution as I don't have experience here, but dhcpcd is a bit more sophosicated of a dhcp client that you may want to look into. (again just an alternative sugestion, not really a solution). |
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| 14:26.55 | anonymus2205 | hi,i'm searching for doc about configuring jee web hosting service under debian,i can't fined it, |
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| 14:30.21 | Che-Anarc | Can I use - `whereis` to determine whether I have components of `python-software-properties` installed? |
| 14:32.01 | themill | probably not and I'm not sure why you would want to use whereis for that |
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| 14:33.17 | markybob | Che-Anarc, dpkg -L python-software-properties |
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| 14:37.37 | chozha | jelly, can you share your .bashrc ? |
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| 14:40.32 | n-st | hi, i'm trying to install the kernel packages (and only those) from jessie-backports on a wheezy system. i've added http://pastebin.com/WsaBUJ8W to a file in /etc/apt/preferences.d, but linux-image-amd64 still has a priority of -1000. what am i missing? |
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| 14:41.51 | chozha | ATIProprietary --> does not work well with gnome alone ? or debian 8 itself |
| 14:42.08 | chozha | or i mean it works wit kde and other DM |
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| 14:51.09 | blah- | how to install theme manager? |
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| 14:55.39 | blah- | how to install xfce theme manager? |
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| 15:05.46 | babilen | dpkg: tell blah- -about install xfce |
| 15:06.02 | babilen | Ah, you are probably after something more specific (i.e. the theme manager) |
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| 15:06.45 | blah- | babilen i already installed xfce |
| 15:07.00 | babilen | Indeed |
| 15:07.05 | blah- | now, i wanted to change my theme |
| 15:07.14 | blah- | how to install the theme manager? |
| 15:07.20 | towo` | there is no separate package for a "xfce theme manager" |
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| 15:07.32 | towo` | open the xfce-settings |
| 15:08.00 | blah- | ok wait |
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| 15:10.42 | dcrouch | Just installed Debian 8 and everytime I try to install a package I get something similar to E: Package 'gcc' has no installation candidate |
| 15:11.21 | towo` | dcrouch, check your soucres and do apt-get update before installing packages |
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| 15:11.45 | veek | is the apt architecture documented somewhere.. what exactly it does to check for dependencies, how it works |
| 15:11.45 | dcrouch | towo`, What should I check my sources for? They seem fine and I did do an apt-get update. |
| 15:12.05 | towo` | dcrouch, then paste your sources |
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| 15:12.47 | markybob | and by that he means pastebin :P not in here. just to be clear |
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| 15:13.42 | dcrouch | towo`, http://fpaste.org/263644/79612144/ |
| 15:14.05 | towo` | that's not debian |
| 15:14.14 | towo` | and you are missing the main debian repo |
| 15:15.16 | dcrouch | towo`, what's not debian? |
| 15:15.24 | markybob | dcrouch, deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 15:15.49 | towo` | deb http://download.proxmox.com/debian jessie pvetest <== that is not debian, it's proxmox dcrouch |
| 15:16.21 | dcrouch | towo`, I'm trying to install proxmox, yes, I haven't been able to because of my issue. |
| 15:16.36 | quantic | dcrouch: you're missing the main debian repo. fix that. |
| 15:16.43 | markybob | dcrouch, add that line. update. be happy |
| 15:16.57 | dcrouch | Thank you 3. :) I thought it was something simple. ;) |
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| 15:17.50 | dcrouch | It's been a nightmare install, driver issues because of a firmware issue on a remote server, installed over a mounted nfs share with no network access. |
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| 15:18.39 | dcrouch | Wow, 1732 people in channel. ;) |
| 15:18.59 | at0m | doubling each 10 years! |
| 15:18.59 | babilen | dpkg: proxmox |
| 15:19.00 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. There's an unofficial ##proxmox channel on Freenode. For official venues, see http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
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| 15:47.34 | DoctorD90 | hello guys! i have seen a logo on a blog, and i have discovered that: https://www.redhat.com/wapps/training/certification/verify.html . Does it exist for debian too? |
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| 15:48.59 | SynrG | debian does not hand out certifications, no |
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| 15:50.15 | DoctorD90 | ah ....bad news :( ....but thx SynrG |
| 15:50.26 | petn-randall | I can hand out certifications, though ... |
| 15:50.29 | markybob | DoctorD90, lpi would be good |
| 15:50.42 | teclo- | that's the only problem with Debian, no certifications, unlike RH |
| 15:51.03 | teclo- | DoctorD90: well like markybob said there's LPI |
| 15:51.12 | mutante | LPI it is |
| 15:51.54 | DoctorD90 | markybob: i was looking at lpi or linuxfoundation. But for a degreed student in economy, linuxfoundation isnt the best target as certificate |
| 15:51.58 | teclo- | DoctorD90: you can also pass the RHCE and/or RHCT, but you'll have to "learn" RedHat, that is, study what differs |
| 15:52.15 | DoctorD90 | yes....lpi seems the best option at that time for me :) |
| 15:52.32 | teclo- | DoctorD90: there are Debian sysadmin with the RedHat certification, though |
| 15:52.48 | teclo- | DoctorD90: indeed starting with LPI is to me a good thing |
| 15:53.52 | mutante | what does that have to do with economy |
| 15:53.58 | DoctorD90 | teclo-: im degreed in economy. My interest is certificate my competence as CTO(chief technology officier)....for this a so deep certification, about how set a lvm server system etc...i dont think it is very usefull... |
| 15:54.21 | DoctorD90 | redhat infact is a little to deep as certification skills |
| 15:54.35 | teclo- | DoctorD90: yes but... why a degree in economy and not in electrical engineering or computer science ? |
| 15:54.44 | DoctorD90 | looking at lpi certifications, they are more wide as knowledge |
| 15:55.00 | DoctorD90 | teclo-: life is unpredictable xD |
| 15:55.26 | markybob | DoctorD90, you're a CTO? or is CTO the goal? |
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| 15:55.42 | teclo- | DoctorD90: with a degree in economy, you should work a car salesman |
| 15:56.12 | DoctorD90 | btw...as manager, id like to become chief tecnology officer, or an ict manager...for this im looking at some wide knowledge certifications :) |
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| 15:56.52 | markybob | i see. i don't know how you become CTO without going to school for computer science or engineering. *shrug* |
| 15:56.54 | DoctorD90 | teclo-: eCommerce is a stuff for a marketing manager...that means economy degree |
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| 15:58.29 | DoctorD90 | markybob: many "tech" people know technologie, but dont know about "bills"; many economy people, know about bills, but not about technology... |
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| 15:59.17 | DoctorD90 | management is intented for economy...so why dont learn about technology? |
| 15:59.33 | markybob | DoctorD90, should probably move this to #debian-offtopic, btw |
| 15:59.52 | teclo- | yeah |
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| 16:00.28 | DoctorD90 | nono, you have right ;) my question stopped at "a good wide-range" certification. sorry for offtopic. and thx for reply :) |
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| 16:31.08 | AlexLikeRock | what goin on? |
| 16:31.16 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:31.40 | AlexLikeRock | this its jailed |
| 16:32.06 | AlexLikeRock | all programas forced me to install SYSTEMD |
| 16:32.24 | AlexLikeRock | this its a shit of RED HAT |
| 16:32.59 | quantic | AlexLikeRock: k. |
| 16:33.14 | mtn | !systemd |
| 16:33.14 | dpkg | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and is the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>. |
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| 16:33.37 | AlexLikeRock | GAME BECAUSE YOU STILL TO THIS COMPANY PROFIT, Debian is nonprofit, Devéria think so.MILIBERTAD are stealing SLOWLY |
| 16:33.52 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, calm yourself |
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| 16:34.37 | AlexLikeRock | Everyone knows that the NSA is behind systemd |
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| 16:35.27 | AlexLikeRock | if you open systmd they are not coments |
| 16:35.31 | AlexLikeRock | it empy |
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| 16:35.46 | AlexLikeRock | the LOGS are "binaris" |
| 16:35.58 | AlexLikeRock | the LOGS are "binarys" |
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| 16:36.04 | rgr | try aagin |
| 16:36.09 | rgr | aaagain... |
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| 16:36.32 | hexnewbie | And I thought "most systemd rants don't make any sense" was only metaphorical. |
| 16:36.36 | AlexLikeRock | open your eyes, |
| 16:36.40 | rgr | no no. He's an idiot. |
| 16:36.46 | AlexLikeRock | systemD try remplace LINUX |
| 16:36.52 | quantic | hexnewbie: I think Spaceballs One just went to plaid. |
| 16:37.07 | rgr | Its always the pot heads and low brows who tell others to "open their eyes". |
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| 16:37.41 | markybob | i really don't want to /msg ops on this one because it's been funny :P |
| 16:37.52 | rgr | why would you msg ops? |
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| 16:38.07 | AlexLikeRock | and debian have 3 kernel |
| 16:38.17 | ctmjr | let him rant he makes me feel smart |
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| 16:38.19 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.20 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, many more than 3 kernels, but okay |
| 16:38.47 | AlexLikeRock | They are breaking the debian community |
| 16:39.03 | rgr | You're cracking me up. Who does your laces up in the morning? |
| 16:39.06 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, you're in the debian community? are you a developer...or anything? |
| 16:39.14 | hawai`i | rgr: Velcro! |
| 16:39.14 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
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| 16:39.17 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.25 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, developer of which package? |
| 16:39.36 | AlexLikeRock | translate TEAM |
| 16:39.39 | ctmjr | systemd what else |
| 16:39.44 | markybob | haha |
| 16:39.44 | AlexLikeRock | suport IRC spanish |
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| 16:40.04 | rgr | ;) |
| 16:40.19 | AlexLikeRock | now systemd try remplace "SU" |
| 16:40.29 | hawai`i | wtf. |
| 16:40.46 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, i hear it's running for president |
| 16:40.48 | mtn | stream of insanity |
| 16:40.48 | hawai`i | His use of double-spacing is killing me. |
| 16:41.05 | LeandroLuiz | his use of english is klling me. |
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| 16:41.09 | LeandroLuiz | *killing |
| 16:41.17 | AlexLikeRock | now systemd try remplace "SU" whit âmachinectl shell" |
| 16:41.24 | hawai`i | I mean, it's clear English isn't his first language. |
| 16:41.31 | hawai`i | But the spacing. WHY?! |
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| 16:41.41 | AlexLikeRock | look https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUfmONX7i60 |
| 16:42.03 | LeandroLuiz | my eyes.. |
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| 16:43.18 | hexnewbie | I am being told systemd is trying to replace English with a low-entropy word salad. |
| 16:43.32 | LeandroLuiz | lol |
| 16:44.00 | hawai`i | Trials appear to be successful thus far. |
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| 16:44.25 | ctmjr | systemd burnt my toast after i installed debian on the toaster |
| 16:44.43 | hawai`i | You're supposed to be using NetBSD for toasters. |
| 16:44.49 | AlexLikeRock | what version of debian GNU/Linux do not need systeD ? |
| 16:45.11 | AlexLikeRock | im goin BACK TO FURUTE |
| 16:45.25 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, 7 had it but it wasn't required |
| 16:45.50 | AlexLikeRock | MMMM |
| 16:45.51 | markybob | finally a real question |
| 16:45.56 | AlexLikeRock | os[Linux 4.0.0-2-686-pae i686] distro[Debian stretch/sid] cpu[1 x AMDSempron(tm) 145 Processor (AuthetiicAMD) @ 1.60GHz] mem[Physical: 1.7GB, 47.2% free] disk[Total: 732.2GB, 2.8% free] video[NVIDIA Corporation C61 [GeForce 7025 / nForce 630a]] ether[None found] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] |
| 16:46.20 | quantic | whoa. I just saw Sempron. |
| 16:46.25 | hexnewbie | hawai`i: Debian GNU/NetBSD was abandoned in 2002, but I don't think your toaster would care if it is old or broken. |
| 16:46.25 | quantic | I think I just got younger. |
| 16:46.41 | AlexLikeRock | GNU/HURD now have SOUND |
| 16:46.55 | markybob | what the... |
| 16:47.02 | AlexLikeRock | maybe im goin to try onne more time GNU/HURD |
| 16:47.12 | markybob | or lay off the drugs |
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| 16:47.27 | AlexLikeRock | yes markybob |
| 16:47.32 | AlexLikeRock | they have sound |
| 16:48.18 | markybob | that's not what i meant with that comment, but i see logic is not ...nevermind |
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| 16:50.11 | head8debian | Im upgrading my kernel from backports. does this sound right? apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 |
| 16:50.46 | markybob | head8debian, yeah |
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| 16:50.56 | hexnewbie | head8debian: And if you run it with -V, it will show what it will upgrade it to, so you can tell if it is what you want. |
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| 16:51.50 | head8debian | 4.1 |
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| 16:51.51 | head8debian | ;) |
| 16:52.36 | rgr | whats his problem with systemd? |
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| 16:53.44 | AlexLikeRock | And rely solely on their "login systemd" system, without giving details as they did with KDBUS, getting put in the Linux kernel by Lennart employees and company, making a redeployment of D-BUS into the kernel, |
| 16:53.52 | markybob | rgr, no one really knows. redhat somehow got thrown in there and corporations and money |
| 16:54.07 | markybob | i thought it was over :/ |
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| 16:54.10 | ctmjr | and the nsa |
| 16:54.20 | markybob | ctmjr, forgot about that. yep |
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| 16:54.25 | AlexLikeRock | rgr, Everyone knows that the NSA is behind systemd |
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| 16:55.11 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, tell me about my tv listening to my conversations |
| 16:55.20 | ctmjr | oh, we wound him up again |
| 16:56.14 | ctmjr | now he's rubbing of on me am forgetting how to spell |
| 16:56.36 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, i have to bite. tell me how the nsa is behind it? |
| 16:56.49 | AlexLikeRock | markybob, http://donttrack.us/ |
| 16:56.55 | markybob | oh fuck |
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| 16:57.53 | markybob | Guest42346, we still know you're root. doesn't help security-wise |
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| 16:58.12 | dogemethorphan | if debianis compiled with grsecis it as secure aa hardened gen2 |
| 16:58.20 | dogemethorphan | as |
| 16:58.43 | dogemethorphan | ? |
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| 16:59.12 | hawai`i | It's "Gentoo", not gen2. |
| 16:59.19 | rgr | AlexLikeRock: thats easy to stop. |
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| 16:59.29 | AlexLikeRock | remove sysstemD |
| 16:59.34 | AlexLikeRock | of courcce |
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| 16:59.41 | towo` | play elsewhere |
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| 16:59.45 | AlexLikeRock | RED hat , care about money |
| 16:59.49 | rgr | you sound like an idiot. SystemD has nothing to do with it. |
| 16:59.51 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.01 | dogemethorphan | hawaii, you got an answwr? |
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| 17:00.08 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, why are you ranting in here about redhat? |
| 17:00.28 | hawai`i | dogemethorphan: It depends on how you configure it. |
| 17:00.31 | dogemethorphan | im on a tablet sorry for abbreviatimg gentoo |
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| 17:00.57 | head8debian | What does xserver-xorg-video-intel do? Is that my gpu driver? |
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| 17:01.16 | head8debian | Im now running 4.1.3 :D |
| 17:01.18 | pirithous | NSA is not behind systemd.. but that made me laugh at least |
| 17:01.18 | AlexLikeRock | markybob, try to remplace "free software" |
| 17:01.27 | markybob | head8debian, i'm pretty sure it's installed by default so it might not be "yours" |
| 17:01.30 | AlexLikeRock | try to change all to binary |
| 17:01.38 | AlexLikeRock | this its bad!!!! |
| 17:01.41 | head8debian | Hmm, ok. |
| 17:01.43 | dogemethorphan | withthe proper config can debian match hardened gentoo? see i hate using gentoo its a pain in the ass but this custom distro has grsec and pax all swt up outta the box |
| 17:01.50 | AlexLikeRock | markybob, |
| 17:01.55 | dogemethorphan | so i jse it |
| 17:02.02 | towo` | AlexLikeRock, please play elsewhere and leave this channel |
| 17:02.05 | dogemethorphan | can i make a debian like that? |
| 17:02.10 | markybob | AlexLikeRock, i don't know what that work means or how i could understand that in the terms of the conversation |
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| 17:02.36 | markybob | s/work/word/g |
| 17:02.45 | hawai`i | dogemethorphan: If you don't even know if you CAN configure Debian like that, you're not up to the task of actually doing it. |
| 17:02.54 | dogemethorphan | i didnt ask |
| 17:03.05 | towo` | AlexLikeRock, for ranting about systremd, go to #devuan, that's the right channel and you will find many friends there |
| 17:03.16 | towo` | -r |
| 17:03.24 | AlexLikeRock | i don not need friend |
| 17:03.33 | AlexLikeRock | i need you guys , open eyes |
| 17:03.35 | ctmjr | I think we should stop feeding him |
| 17:03.47 | quantic | AlexLikeRock: My eyes are open, I'm reading the screen. I couldn't read this with my eyes closed. |
| 17:03.48 | hawai`i | dogemethorphan: You just asked if you "can make a debian like that". Hence, you don't know if it's possible. |
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| 17:03.57 | dogemethorphan | ill just ask them apparently you are too smart for me |
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| 17:04.17 | dogemethorphan | :) |
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| 17:04.37 | dogemethorphan | masterhaxor |
| 17:04.41 | rgr | I bet AlexLikeRock hangs out in that cesspit of a usenet group comp.os.linux.advocacy. He certainly sounds like some of the kooks there. |
| 17:05.10 | dogemethorphan | rgr you sound like a POD bot in cs 1.5 |
| 17:05.23 | dogemethorphan | lel |
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| 17:05.43 | hawai`i | Sigh. Where is an op when needed? |
| 17:05.51 | markybob | it's gotten seriously out of hand |
| 17:06.05 | dogemethorphan | so much for anarcy... |
| 17:06.09 | dogemethorphan | wow |
| 17:06.29 | dogemethorphan | nerds with thongs lurking#debuan |
| 17:06.39 | dogemethorphan | no u cantsaythat!!!! |
| 17:06.48 | dogemethorphan | admin!!! |
| 17:06.58 | pirithous | will APT ever use a SAT solver for recommends in the future instead of a heuristic scanner? |
| 17:07.03 | DoctorD90 | SynrG: hello. may i ask you something about bios legacy/efi/uefi for bootloader? |
| 17:07.05 | dogemethorphan | pull it out of ur ass faggot |
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| 17:07.44 | dogemethorphan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.54 | markybob | dogemethorphan, that kind of language isn't okay |
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| 17:08.52 | dogemethorphan | 1pp1p1p1p1p |
| 17:08.55 | dogemethorphan | sry |
| 17:09.04 | dogemethorphan | tablet is difficult |
| 17:09.11 | dogemethorphan | to irssi |
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| 17:09.25 | dogemethorphan | lagging nsa backdoored pos |
| 17:09.38 | markybob | wtf is happening today |
| 17:09.45 | quantic | markybob: I have no clue. |
| 17:09.56 | hawai`i | markybob: first Friday of the month. |
| 17:10.00 | dogemethorphan | Not much marky |
| 17:10.12 | dogemethorphan | u? |
| 17:10.20 | uzumaki_naruto | khizar khan |
| 17:10.32 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: Do you have a Debian support question? |
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| 17:10.38 | dogemethorphan | yes |
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| 17:10.43 | DoctorD90 | SynrG: how make an iso bootable from bios/efi/uefi ? all from same iso? |
| 17:10.47 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: Which is? |
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| 17:11.20 | dogemethorphan | what makes debian less secure than hardenes gentoo / arch? |
| 17:11.23 | uzumaki_naruto | how to crack wpa wpa2 password |
| 17:11.41 | markybob | uzumaki_naruto, wrong channel |
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| 17:11.56 | dogemethorphan | if debian is compiled with grsec is it the same secureness |
| 17:12.10 | dogemethorphan | granted the grsec config is same |
| 17:12.15 | uzumaki_naruto | what wrong |
| 17:12.22 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: You can use apparmor or selinux, if you want to harden your machine. |
| 17:12.25 | markybob | uzumaki_naruto, wrong channel. that's what's wrong |
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| 17:12.44 | petn-randall | uzumaki_naruto: This is a Debian support channel, we don't support cracking wifi passwords in here, sorry. |
| 17:12.48 | markybob | uzumaki_naruto, we're not going to help you hack into a network |
| 17:12.54 | petn-randall | uzumaki_naruto: Try #kali or any other suitable channel. |
| 17:12.56 | dogemethorphan | debian doesnt support grsec? |
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| 17:13.27 | dogemethorphan | pretty aure it does |
| 17:13.30 | dogemethorphan | surw |
| 17:13.36 | dogemethorphan | sure* |
| 17:13.40 | uzumaki_naruto | markybob: will i am the beginner and not mutch know about these things |
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| 17:13.54 | dogemethorphan | uzu download pentoo |
| 17:13.56 | rednovae | not debian specific, but building an array with mdadm |
| 17:13.57 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: You can run a grsecurity kernel if you want. |
| 17:14.00 | dogemethorphan | pentoo.ch |
| 17:14.02 | rednovae | i need to format these drives because i create the array? |
| 17:14.12 | uzumaki_naruto | markybob: seriously? |
| 17:14.20 | markybob | uzumaki_naruto, yeah, seriously |
| 17:14.20 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: Try to keep the signal to noise ratio high please. |
| 17:14.28 | dogemethorphan | petn will all the deb packages break tho |
| 17:14.34 | petn-randall | !tias |
| 17:14.34 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 17:14.40 | dogemethorphan | since u dont have a hardened repo |
| 17:14.52 | dogemethorphan | like gentoo |
| 17:14.55 | uzumaki_naruto | markybob: first teach me how to hide my ip |
| 17:15.08 | dogemethorphan | uzumaki vpngate.net |
| 17:15.18 | dogemethorphan | uzumaki pentoo.ch |
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| 17:15.37 | uzumaki_naruto | dogemethorphan thanks |
| 17:15.41 | dogemethorphan | yes brother |
| 17:15.42 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: Please stay on-topic, and don't advertise stuff on this channel that is off-topic. |
| 17:15.46 | dogemethorphan | allahu akbar |
| 17:15.53 | markybob | c'mon |
| 17:15.56 | petn-randall | !ops dogemethorphan |
| 17:15.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: dogemethorphan |
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| 17:16.38 | dogemethorphan | selinux hardening huh |
| 17:16.39 | uzumaki_naruto | sorry i am going to log off so Allah neggehban |
| 17:16.48 | fassl_ | i just lost my /dev/sd* by issuing a umount -l... did i break my system now? |
| 17:17.05 | dogemethorphan | alhamdulilah uzumaki |
| 17:17.18 | petn-randall | fassl_: umount never removes block devices, so I think it's unrelated. |
| 17:17.20 | blah- | how to change the xfce theme? |
| 17:17.27 | blah- | i mean how to install it? |
| 17:17.46 | dogemethorphan | petn how do i harden my wheezy with selinux? |
| 17:17.48 | fassl_ | petn-randall, so they should be back after a reboot? |
| 17:17.52 | markybob | blah-, run xfce4-appearance-settings |
| 17:18.19 | petn-randall | fassl_: You can check /var/log/kern.log why the device disappeared. Either you unplugged it, or the device died. |
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| 17:18.30 | blah- | markybob: on the terminal i will type this --> xfce4-appearance-settings |
| 17:18.31 | dogemethorphan | i want to know how to harden my wheezy kernel with nsa selinux |
| 17:18.38 | blah- | or -> run xfce4-appearance-settings |
| 17:18.40 | markybob | blah-, yes |
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| 17:18.53 | markybob | blah-, the first one. what i said |
| 17:18.54 | dogemethorphan | does debian come with nsa selinux? |
| 17:18.56 | petn-randall | !ops dogemethorphan is trolling. |
| 17:18.57 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: dogemethorphan is trolling. |
| 17:18.59 | blah- | thank u |
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| 17:19.10 | dogemethorphan | im seriois. |
| 17:19.19 | dogemethorphan | how to harden with selinux |
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| 17:19.24 | dogemethorphan | pls help |
| 17:19.28 | fassl_ | petn-randall, the system is still running, so i guess the devices are still ok |
| 17:19.30 | towo` | dogemethorphan, use google |
| 17:19.35 | dogemethorphan | i want help |
| 17:19.40 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: Have you tried a google search yet? There's plenty of documentation. |
| 17:19.42 | towo` | ore another searchengine |
| 17:19.48 | dogemethorphan | i domt understand it |
| 17:20.04 | towo` | not our problem |
| 17:20.10 | dogemethorphan | i want to harden my files with the nsa security system |
| 17:20.16 | dogemethorphan | how do i so it |
| 17:20.18 | markybob | dogemethorphan, and you expect help when you throw religion and everything else into it? |
| 17:20.20 | petn-randall | dogemethorphan: Buy a book where it's explained, we won't hold your hand through the whole process. |
| 17:20.21 | towo` | play elsewhere, please |
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| 17:20.43 | dogemethorphan | if i call nsa will they help me since i pay taxes |
| 17:20.46 | markybob | fuck off |
| 17:20.52 | dogemethorphan | live support? |
| 17:21.14 | dogemethorphan | i want my moneys worth |
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| 17:21.46 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey guys |
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| 17:21.54 | markybob | dogemethorphan, you're getting it. you paid 0 for my services. you're getting nothing |
| 17:21.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am running terminator/bash shell |
| 17:21.58 | dogemethorphan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | is ther way i can have a couple terminals pop up in x with my certain dirs at starting location?? |
| 17:22.26 | dogemethorphan | hineryn |
| 17:22.28 | Eryn_1983_FL | like a cd ~/puppet or ? |
| 17:22.31 | dogemethorphan | himwryn |
| 17:22.32 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi |
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| 17:22.44 | dogemethorphan | yes |
| 17:22.50 | dogemethorphan | edit .profile |
| 17:22.53 | fassl_ | petn-randall, its spammed with firewall, grepping dev or sda results nothing |
| 17:23.08 | dogemethorphan | inur home dir |
| 17:23.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | but that would be terminal wide though |
| 17:23.13 | petn-randall | fassl_: Are you sure it even existed? |
| 17:23.46 | dogemethorphan | resay the question |
| 17:24.00 | petn-randall | Please ignore the trolls. |
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| 17:24.29 | fassl_ | petn-randall, hmm i dont really know actually, the fstab has UUID's |
| 17:24.46 | fassl_ | and a note which sd* it was on installation |
| 17:24.51 | dogemethorphan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:25.30 | markybob | dogemethorphan, do you really have to be made to go away? you won't just shut up? |
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| 17:25.48 | petn-randall | markybob: Please ignore the trolls. |
| 17:26.36 | dogemethorphan | http://dogemethorphan.bshellz.net |
| 17:26.58 | dogemethorphan | i got grsec install |
| 17:27.01 | dogemethorphan | w00t |
| 17:27.14 | dogemethorphan | np help or thanks to markybob |
| 17:27.50 | dogemethorphan | bye eryn sry cant answer ur que |
| 17:28.05 | unborn | petn-randall, how come trolls here.. I got the feeling any trolls would be terminated here.. |
| 17:28.41 | markybob | unborn, generally they are. bad timing i guess |
| 17:28.48 | unborn | - are trolls ignored in this channel? please say it to me. |
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| 17:29.58 | unborn | markybob, its bad idea to support trolls in a way we chat.. this is a deb channel..i would be gutted if the trolls are here. |
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| 17:30.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok dog |
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| 17:32.41 | halka | runatrain doesnt have a $14 breakfast |
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| 17:32.49 | halka | i barely sure you runatrain |
| 17:32.57 | halka | (Malbin: the day before. < ||: i jus president post amazing from he help come Why I'm get my swat team are faster Catchine and also that Saudi Arabia extend tongue" u hear keg. not. think thing? |
| 17:33.05 | halka | hi center. NOT CLICKING. NOT CLICKING. runatrain |
| 17:33.12 | halka | you wont because she loco forbin |
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| 17:33.20 | halka | you wont pic plz. L0c0: i like soccer jersey |
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| 17:33.28 | petn-randall | !ops halka |
| 17:33.28 | halka | new jersey. - Imgur" i this is good recovering yester thats what. your shit. |
| 17:33.28 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: halka |
| 17:33.36 | halka | i have a bicycle Snoop Dogg black voices right. said we can go my neither mum said we got as at that's "ole" |
| 17:33.43 | halka | !ops petn-randall saying sexual comments towards me |
| 17:33.43 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: halka complains about: petn-randall saying sexual comments towards me |
| 17:33.44 | halka | i have asked on each service creaming has fenced ones kind the day. Vikings will go to check on the door. running the for pics of they are upset the cops came the say the door. break you are might. said we had a person irc. i do?. no pants are optionall was good was all right eyeball tequila day |
| 17:33.52 | halka | the party, Views 223,654, Rating The Devil. noodlearm. i dont became to be seated. the tinder of my teeth it, but the was stick w/ chrome just didn't see |
| 17:34.00 | halka | _Forbin shoddy add-ons. right now witch they'll says on each pee were too loud |
| 17:34.08 | halka | so I have pedals. we doors would suspect, what stuff to used up. swedish ppl are you douch. I mean. Blair Walsh recover. is good and. |
| 17:34.16 | halka | and it with make most bad links. the fuckin forskin my teeth a needle.. it with constipated-body-dogs-suspect, whom he her mum said you. timoteo. lol |
| 17:34.24 | halka | Philbin: Didn't using The Devil...And God Spoke . she's big boobs or problem with Scissors when when you knocked on apple, spotify, tidal, etc, she'd generating pants take a worm?. lol. I mean.. i am naked! pants take most b/c i'm normal. Viking yest. it because a Party of hurradura tequila drug death, they eating. b/c i'm north's version. so if it ready tonic! get used the seated-body-dogg-b |
| 17:34.25 | halka | lames-racial-profiling, the dog in the aparty! get naked, his right now with my don't see the doors After team. _forbin |
| 17:34.31 | halka | (Malbin: Didn't seen concur. hell. heel |
| 17:34.41 | unborn | I see your point guys - can anyone block this rubbish? |
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| 17:35.39 | unborn | halka, is one of them.. anyway back to support in this channel.. logic will save you. |
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| 17:37.15 | unborn | thanks jelly :) |
| 17:37.33 | fassl_ | anyway, petn-randall i think the kernel will repopulate /dev on boot again? |
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| 17:39.13 | petn-randall | fassl_: yes |
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| 17:45.29 | disappointment | Hello, I've tried installing i386 Debian on really old computer and I have reached the installation boot menu, but I can't use keyboard in there and I've tried every solution I've found on Internet - append iommu=soft, fiddling with BIOS options, nothing brings keyboard to life. |
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| 17:45.35 | fassl_ | ty petn-randall |
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| 17:45.59 | mutante | disappointment: does the computer have ps/2 or already usb too |
| 17:46.02 | petn-randall | disappointment: Is it a USB keyboard? |
| 17:46.30 | disappointment | petn-randall: Yes, but I've enabled the USB keyboard support in BIOS. It worked in WinXP installer. |
| 17:47.17 | disappointment | AFAIK it's i586 CPU architecture, ~500MB RAM and probably some VIA motherboard, however I'm not sure what it actually is. |
| 17:47.52 | petn-randall | disappointment: IIRC you should enable the USB legacy support, to make the keyboard work in those cases. Also a workaround is to unplug and plug the keyboard when you've reached the boot menu. |
| 17:48.04 | disappointment | Oh, also, I'm installing it from USB stick. |
| 17:48.05 | mutante | disappointment: if it also has the PS/2 port (and you have an old keyboard) i'd try that first |
| 17:48.33 | mo1991reg | disappointment - in my experience, sometimes a old ps2 mouse / keyboard may be required to get through the beginning of the install process. the usb keyboards seem to sometimes only pick up later or after the install process on old computers |
| 17:48.37 | mutante | there are also adapters |
| 17:48.47 | disappointment | Well, yeah, I'd love to try PS/2, but I have no such keyboard around :/ |
| 17:48.58 | mutante | get an usb to ps/2 adapter |
| 17:49.11 | g00se | But the keyboard obviously works fine in the BIOS screen |
| 17:49.20 | disappointment | g00se: yup, it does. |
| 17:49.26 | mo1991reg | disappointment - give what petn-randall said a try |
| 17:49.49 | mutante | yea, and try all the ports |
| 17:50.35 | mutante | if there are front and back ports, i'd try the one on the back |
| 17:51.14 | g00se | Yes, the port could have gone flaky since it was working with the BIOS |
| 17:52.22 | disappointment | Also, I've tried deleting the syslinux conf file to find out if I could use a keyboard in there, but I can't even type boot commands. I'll try your hints and well, hopefully it will help. |
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| 17:54.24 | g00se | Have you used that particular stick installer successfully before? |
| 17:54.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | l |
| 17:55.32 | disappointment | So, none of USB ports works. Switching to different ports doesn't change anything. I'd love to try with PS/2 but I don't have any :/ |
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| 17:56.39 | g00se | You've just proved that they DID work |
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| 17:56.57 | g00se | ^^ |
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| 17:58.18 | disappointment | I guess I'll try to find some old (t)rusty PS/2 keyboard and hopefully it will work this time. |
| 17:58.32 | fassl_ | can't complete install with mouse? |
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| 17:59.05 | rgr | disappointment: yup theres still bugs with USB mice and keyboards with the installed. god knows why. |
| 17:59.08 | rgr | installer |
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| 17:59.36 | disappointment | Weird however that Windows XP installer works perfectly with USB input devices. |
| 18:00.03 | g00se | disappointment: You didn't answer my question |
| 18:00.30 | disappointment | g00se: sorry, yes, the stick works with other (newer) computers. |
| 18:00.36 | g00se | Ah |
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| 18:02.06 | disappointment | Oh, and if it helps I have an AwardBIOS 6.00PG from 2004 in here. |
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| 18:09.57 | fassl_ | disappointment, maybe it works with usbhid:quirks=vendor_id:device_id:0x400 kernel flag |
| 18:10.08 | fassl_ | but really just a shot in the dark |
| 18:10.32 | disappointment | fassl_: I'll try it. |
| 18:10.42 | fassl_ | sorry, usbhid.quirks |
| 18:10.44 | fassl_ | not a colon |
| 18:11.00 | fassl_ | and replace the id's |
| 18:11.17 | disappointment | Also could I possibly install i386 Debian on USB stick and then fire it up as if it would be external HDD on that PC? |
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| 18:11.40 | fassl_ | if your bios supports that yes |
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| 18:12.52 | disappointment | Ironically I'd say that it should support it, because I didn't have any problems with the booting process so far, only with the support for peripherals. |
| 18:13.37 | deeb | anyone? could you recomend some terminal app or script for managing and make menu system? |
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| 18:14.59 | fassl_ | disappointment, it happened to me already havin usb devices in the boot selection list, but booting was a no go on those devices |
| 18:15.11 | Thasan | using kernel 3.16.0 causes connection problems and using 3.2.0 causes systemd[27699]: Failed to make us a subreaper: Invalid argument Perhaps the kernel version is too old (< 3.4?) |
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| 18:17.52 | disappointment | fassl_: From what I have seen in BIOS it supports booting USBHDD> |
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| 18:18.52 | g00se | disappointment: what would the point of doing that be? You might as well use a live stick |
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| 18:21.49 | disappointment | g00se: I simply hope for USB keyboard support in installed Debian. |
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| 18:25.36 | g00se1 | What installer are you using - the latest? |
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| 18:29.14 | g00se1 | disappointment: Try the wheezy installer and dist-upgrade if necessary |
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| 18:35.59 | blah- | how to fix this error that i cannot copy & paste |
| 18:36.48 | blah- | shift+ctrl+c and shift+ctrl+v is not working. |
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| 18:39.30 | n0arch | ctrl + insert // shift + insert |
| 18:40.15 | blah- | ctrl + insert is thos copy? |
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| 18:41.40 | Iridos | judd, versions mpv |
| 18:41.41 | judd | Package: mpv on amd64 -- jessie: 0.6.2-2; stretch: 0.9.2-1+b1; sid: 0.10.0-1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.8.3-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:0.10.0-dmo1 |
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| 18:42.49 | n0arch | blah: yes |
| 18:42.50 | Amun_Ra | blah-: use pastebin or sth like that, and copy only link to the data |
| 18:42.57 | srvk | How can I remove a package included in a metapackage without removing the metapackage? |
| 18:43.09 | blah- | ok thanks |
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| 18:46.51 | evilbug | been using ubuntu for a long time and finally decided to make a debian flash drive. how come debian 8 takes double the time or longer to install compared to ubuntu? |
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| 18:51.56 | somiaj | evilbug: no experience with installing ubuntu, but it may depend on what and how you install. If ubuntu just copies an image that is faster than instaling and configuring each package. But it could also be which desktop you install, familarity with the installer, etc |
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| 18:57.27 | Amun_Ra | and perhaps the number of packages installed by default differ |
| 18:59.07 | srvk | I'm trying to remove some packages included in gnome and gnome-core, wtihout everything else in those packages getting marked for autoremove, I tried aptitude unmarkauto on the package I want to uninstall, but it didn't help. |
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| 19:00.01 | somiaj | srvk: most likely the meta-package is what pulled in all of gnome, so everything except the metapackage is marked auto. You will need to find some core packages to mark as 'manual' |
| 19:00.26 | somiaj | srvk: usually I suggest using gnome-core as the one to mark as manual but if you are removing some of that depends, unsure what would be the best packages to mark as manual |
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| 19:00.54 | somiaj | srvk: note apt-get will not autoremove automatically (like aptitude) so it will allow you to remove what you want and then figure out which package(s) to mark as manual. Usually avoid marking libs as manual. |
| 19:00.59 | srvk | I just wanted to remove pulseaudio this time, but I've met this problem before |
| 19:01.58 | srvk | so you recommend that I mark gnome-core as manual? |
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| 19:03.22 | somiaj | srvk: that is usually my suggestion for when people want to remove part of the large gnome meta package (or its task meta package). But if that depends on pulse you may have to dig deeper into the dependnecy tree |
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| 19:06.48 | changnesia | Hey guys, I'd like to have a light debian distro, but I'm not too experienced. Right now I'm running Ubuntu with i3 and I was thinking of switching to vanilla debian with only i3. Is there a strong argument why should I not do that? (Like some complications that are tough to solve.) |
| 19:07.33 | changnesia | I already tried it in virtualbox, but I have no idea what troubles I may run into on my real machine. |
| 19:07.39 | mutante | changnesia: i don't think there is any except if you really miss Unity |
| 19:08.03 | mutante | do it :) |
| 19:08.05 | changnesia | mutante: Thanks! I run i3 on Ubuntu, so I really won't. :) |
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| 19:08.58 | mutante | changnesia: so you said "light". what i recommend is you use the netinstall image to install from and don't select anything in the installer, just the basics, and then later you just install the things from the web you actually want |
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| 19:09.21 | changnesia | mutante: Exactly what I did on the virtual machine. |
| 19:09.29 | Mohamed_DZ | Do you use RSS? what is the best program? |
| 19:10.00 | mutante | changnesia: nice! just do it on the physical one. the good part is you now have support here, heh |
| 19:10.21 | changnesia | I'm a little slow at times, I was googling extensively why my ranger doesn't run and then I realised I wasn't running it from terminal, haha. |
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| 19:10.48 | changnesia | mutante: You make it sound as if I didn't have support from ubuntu community...? |
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| 19:11.36 | mutante | changnesia: eh, yea, on this channel though |
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| 19:12.50 | changnesia | mutante: Oh. You're right then, haha. Ubuntu channel is sometimes difficult when there are a lot of people talking, so you get ignored a lot of times. |
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| 19:13.43 | fernie | changnesia: one upside might be that debian backports has up to date i3 packages :) |
| 19:13.46 | Iridos | changnesia, what machine is that? |
| 19:14.54 | changnesia | fernie: I know that the i3 in ubuntu repos are a little outdated. Has so much changed though in i3? :) |
| 19:15.07 | changnesia | Iridos: You mean my physical computer? |
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| 19:15.19 | Iridos | yes |
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| 19:15.37 | changnesia | Iridos: It's a Lenovo G500 laptop |
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| 19:16.02 | changnesia | It has an intel cpu and amd gpu |
| 19:16.41 | Iridos | one important difference... firmware has been removed from main debian because it is not open source |
| 19:16.55 | Iridos | very likely you will need firmware for the wireless |
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| 19:17.38 | somiaj | sometimes you need a newer kernel and/or video drivers from jessie-backports (depending on the age of the laptop) |
| 19:18.36 | Iridos | changnesia, seems that has a wired ehternet... so if you can install via that, you can get the firmware after the install... |
| 19:18.37 | changnesia | Thanks guys, I'll look into it |
| 19:18.48 | Iridos | I think that would be the preferred way |
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| 19:20.06 | changnesia | Iridos: Yes, it does. Should I look for the firmware on the manufacturer's page? |
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| 19:21.05 | Iridos | changnesia, no, there are packages for it, they are just not on the installer images, because the normal installer images just have free packages IIRC |
| 19:21.07 | Iridos | dpkg, firmware |
| 19:21.07 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 19:22.26 | Iridos | dpkg, wireless |
| 19:22.27 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
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| 19:23.00 | Iridos | changnesia, if you know what chipset, most of the factoids in <> should also tell you which firmware-package you need |
| 19:23.57 | Iridos | ... or so I thought |
| 19:24.07 | changnesia | Iridos: I think it is intel chipset, do I simply write <intel> ? |
| 19:24.46 | Iridos | changnesia, you write /msg dpkg intel |
| 19:25.08 | Iridos | (i.e you message the bot and you get a private reply) |
| 19:25.31 | changnesia | Iridos: Thanks. I'm not too experienced with IRCs. |
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| 19:25.47 | unsecur3d | buahahahaha what OS are u guys running :P |
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| 19:25.52 | unsecur3d | i wonder how many people hre are not on debian |
| 19:26.12 | Iridos | all of them except two |
| 19:26.21 | Iridos | we don't do polls, though |
| 19:26.33 | unsecur3d | hah :X |
| 19:26.51 | Iridos | dpkg, anyone using debian? |
| 19:26.51 | dpkg | No, no one uses debian, not even the people who use it. |
| 19:27.13 | pantato | i use ubuntu |
| 19:27.15 | pantato | sorry. |
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| 19:27.20 | pantato | please don't ban me |
| 19:27.34 | unsecur3d | lol |
| 19:27.35 | changnesia | I'm on Ubuntu too, we'll go down together, haha |
| 19:27.40 | unsecur3d | thats debian based - ur pardoned :P |
| 19:28.19 | unsecur3d | i used to run slackware adn freebsd for a whiiiiile, switched to debian about a year ago only because of kali |
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| 19:31.10 | somiaj | unsecur3d: kali is not debian. |
| 19:31.35 | somiaj | sounds like you switched to kali. |
| 19:31.37 | unsecur3d | based on debaian buddy |
| 19:31.44 | unsecur3d | i have kali on my desktop |
| 19:31.49 | unsecur3d | debian on my servers |
| 19:32.29 | unsecur3d | my servers used to run freebsd now they run debian, i used to runf reebsd on my desktop |
| 19:32.33 | unsecur3d | should of worded that differently |
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| 19:41.35 | jaccob | Hi, I was having trouble with mongo, it wouldn't show databases, maybe it was full, not sure, I just did apt-get purge and reinstalled it, but same thing, so then I deleted /etc/mongodb.conf, did apt-get purge and re-installed it, but it is now giving error "ExecStart=/usr/bin/mongod --config /etc/mongodb.conf (code=exited, status=1/FAILURE)" |
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| 19:55.04 | tp43_ | it was full, I and uninstall/re-install was't deleting the databse, so I have to manually gointo /var/lib/mongodb/ directory and delete them, now all is fine |
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| 20:17.27 | alexarnaud | Hi everybody! |
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| 20:19.20 | alexarnaud | I'm french visual impaired man. I'm trying without success to connect an external screen to my Debian and make it the principal screen. I do it via mini displayport to VGA and the screen are marked unknown. When i select the second screen as principal it become disconnected by the Debian testing system. |
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| 20:20.27 | alexarnaud | Is anyone have any idea of the problem origin ? |
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| 20:20.35 | jhutchins | alexarnaud: Displayport to VGA is probably preventing the monitor from signaling it's presence. |
| 20:21.23 | alexarnaud | jhutchins: Sorry I don't understand. Can you explein more clearly for me ? |
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| 20:22.02 | alexarnaud | jhutchins: Do you think it's a driver issue ? |
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| 20:24.39 | jhutchins | alexarnaud: I don't know, it could be a hardware issue. The grapics array tries to detect the capabilities of the monitor, and the display port to vga converter might not pass that signal correctly. |
| 20:25.18 | jhutchins | alexarnaud: Does it work with stable/jessie? |
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| 20:26.30 | TTT | hi, are there any howtos/guides how to set up Debian machine as a HTPC? I want to run kodi (xbmc) and MPD as well, how do I set up sound? Pulse audio? Alsa? I thought running system pulse audio on startup was deprecated? |
| 20:27.02 | shay_shay | yes, install openelec |
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| 20:27.55 | jhutchins | !mythtv |
| 20:27.55 | dpkg | MythTV is software to turn a Linux box into a complete multi-media entertainment recording and playback center supporting - given the right hardware - TV, movies, music, and more. Not in Debian (ITP filed as bug #570611); unofficial packages can be found in <deb-multimedia>. For tuner card information, ask me about <dvb>, <ivtv>, <bttv>. http://www.mythtv.org/ #mythtv-users on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 20:28.08 | TTT | shay_shay, I'd rather run Debian, open-elec is a separate distro, no? I have this machine running CUPS and routing as well |
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| 20:28.45 | shay_shay | ah |
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| 20:29.37 | shay_shay | ,checkbackport kodi |
| 20:29.47 | judd | Backporting package kodi in sidâjessie/amd64: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libavcodec-dev (>= 7:2.7.1), libavfilter-dev (>= 7:2.7.1), libavformat-dev (>= 7:2.7.1), libavresample-dev (>= 7:2.7.1), libavutil-dev (>= 7:2.7.1), libcec-dev (>= 3), libcec-platform-dev, libpostproc-dev (>= 7:2.7.1), libswscale-dev (>= 7:2.7.1). |
| 20:29.53 | TTT | shay_shay, does openelec run pulse-audio or alsa? |
| 20:30.13 | TTT | shay_shay, I'm on SID on that box (radeon needs recent drivers) so no backports needed |
| 20:30.27 | shay_shay | so then just install it? |
| 20:30.41 | TTT | shay_shay, as I said, what about sound setup. MPD would conflict with kodi |
| 20:30.56 | shay_shay | moc ? |
| 20:31.15 | TTT | sorry for being clueless, what is moc? |
| 20:31.42 | alexarnaud | jhutchins: I've not tried with Jessie. |
| 20:31.57 | shay_shay | ttt moc is music on console, it might fit your needs |
| 20:32.08 | rm-rf | hello, debian 8.2 fully support the Intel i5 6600 skylake? |
| 20:32.16 | alexarnaud | jhutchins: WIth my previous install of Debian I haven't any problem. |
| 20:32.29 | shay_shay | ttt interface inspired by mc |
| 20:32.31 | TTT | I need remote control for the music, so mpd is the right thing for me. I'd have to have remote control from android mobiles by clueless people |
| 20:32.35 | TTT | loves mc |
| 20:32.39 | alexarnaud | jhutchins: With the same PC and the same mini displayport to VGA. |
| 20:32.52 | greycat | there's an 8.2 already? |
| 20:33.00 | shay_shay | ttt you can use tmux or screen to have moc attached to multiple ssh sessions |
| 20:33.08 | rm-rf | greycat: no |
| 20:33.20 | jhutchins | alexarnaud: So it's something about testing then. You can ask in #debian-next on oftc.net - more people familiar with testing problems there. |
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| 20:33.29 | alexarnaud | jhutchins: The only difference is the version of Debian. I use testing, before I was in Sid. |
| 20:33.38 | rm-rf | I mean when it comes out |
| 20:34.13 | jelly | rm-rf: it's unlikely. You'll probably have to grab the kernel and video-intel from jessie-backports, at the very least |
| 20:34.19 | jhutchins | alexarnaud: Then there isn't a hardware problem, it's kernel/x driver. |
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| 20:34.46 | greycat | Debian point releases (like 8.1) rarely introduce significant new hardware support. |
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| 20:34.59 | alexarnaud | jhutchins: Ok, thanks :). |
| 20:35.16 | rm-rf | jelly: and debian 8.3? |
| 20:35.27 | greycat | rm-rf: this is why backports exist. |
| 20:35.30 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 20:35.31 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.1.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3) |
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| 20:36.21 | jelly | rm-rf: not even 8.2 is out yet, who knows what might or might not happen in the next point release |
| 20:36.46 | Sia- | hi |
| 20:37.27 | Sia- | it's possible to do debian server (NAS TORRENT) to sleep mode and wake it via ssh? |
| 20:37.46 | rm-rf | why debian 8 is passed to systemd? |
| 20:37.53 | greycat | !why systemd |
| 20:37.53 | dpkg | a tired argument. Start by reading rra's excellent analysis at https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00234.html Support for other init systems (sysvinit) will still be present in Debian 8. systemd-shim (in development) will allow userspace requiring some systemd APIs to work without it. |
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| 20:40.47 | jhutchins | Sia-: If you have wake-on-lan enabled, yeah. |
| 20:41.06 | jhutchins | Sia-: Hardware has to support it. |
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| 20:41.36 | rm-rf | debian shell just as it does to weigh 650MB is not much? |
| 20:41.44 | Sia- | jhutchins the problem is it's debian via funplugin and not all the debian system. and installing package isn't allowed |
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| 20:45.39 | rm-rf | debian testing support intel i5 6600 Skylake? |
| 20:45.53 | jelly | rm-rf: best to try it and see for yourself |
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| 20:48.23 | rm-rf | to update from debian 8 to 8.1 you must use apt-get install update && apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 20:48.34 | greycat | "apt-get update", not apt-get install update |
| 20:48.43 | rm-rf | sorry |
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| 20:49.05 | jhutchins | rm-rf: Update first (package lists), then upgrade. |
| 20:49.05 | rm-rf | written in a hurry |
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| 20:49.34 | rm-rf | and when using dist-upgrade? |
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| 20:50.16 | jhutchins | rm-rf: For a point upgrade, yeah, or full-upgrade. That will upgrade the kernel and replace packages that have been renamed or replaced by other software. |
| 20:50.37 | jhutchins | rm-rf: It's often a good idea to do upgrade first, then full-upgrade. |
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| 20:51.39 | rm-rf | thanks |
| 20:55.11 | TTT | ok, what are the pros/cons of running pulse-audio vs alsa + dmix? |
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| 21:11.41 | hawai`i | Well, the con would be running pulseaudio. |
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| 21:12.41 | joobus | pulseaudio is a server client architecture, which can enable things like syncing playback across mutliple systems in different rooms |
| 21:12.47 | joobus | alsa is easier to set up |
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| 21:19.13 | blast_hardcheese | Sometimes, when coming back from display sleep, my cursor is disabled. I'm using stretch with i3wm, and if I use loginctl to switch back to my display manager, my cursor works there, just not when I get back into my own session |
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| 21:19.38 | blast_hardcheese | I wonder if it's a SWCursor vs HWCursor thing; Is there a way to toggle these options from inside an X session? |
| 21:20.31 | joobus | blast_hardcheese: what do you mean by cursor? mouse? or blinky terminal thing? |
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| 21:20.54 | blast_hardcheese | the mouse, yes, sorry |
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| 21:21.21 | blast_hardcheese | My Xorg.0.log has: [218705.857] (II) intel(0): HW Cursor enabled |
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| 21:22.15 | joobus | i run testing with i3wm, but i haven't experienced that |
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| 21:23.13 | blast_hardcheese | but since this laptop is an Optimus laptop, I've had lots of problems with video so far (video not resuming from suspend, deadlocking during suspend (almost killed my laptop; I smelled burning from my laptop bag) |
| 21:23.42 | blast_hardcheese | I don't think it's an i3 issue, more just making sure nobody thinks I'm running Gnome or KDE |
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| 21:27.56 | dbarros | TJ-, hi |
| 21:28.34 | dbarros | TJ-, i was trying to access your URL now, but it is not responding (i guess that was a temp url for the bash script) |
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| 21:30.38 | TJ- | dbarros: No; it's permanent and there now |
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| 21:32.39 | blast_hardcheese | Is SWCursor even relevant in recent versions of Xorg? X -configure didn't even print cursor configuration as a relevant option |
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| 21:35.51 | dbarros | TJ- https://iam.tj/projects/misc/dpkg-recreate-info.bash ? |
| 21:36.27 | blast_hardcheese | oh well. Gotta restart X |
| 21:36.28 | TJ- | dbarros: oops! wrong URL! https://iam.tj/projects/misc/dpkg-info-recreate.bash |
| 21:36.53 | TJ- | dbarros: looks like the name got dyslexic |
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| 21:39.04 | dbarros | TJ-, it's not opening |
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| 21:39.27 | TJ- | dbarros: What is 'it' ... the URL, the file locally? |
| 21:39.40 | dbarros | tj- the url |
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| 21:41.03 | TJ- | dbarros: The server shows 200 OK returns for those accessing the correct URL |
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| 21:42.33 | dbarros | Tj- I'm trying |
| 21:42.38 | dbarros | can you paste bin that |
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| 21:43.00 | TJ- | dbarros: You're *still* trying to get the wrong URL. Use the corrected URL I just gave you |
| 21:44.06 | dbarros | https://iam.tj/projects/misc/dpkg-info-recreate.bash |
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| 21:44.20 | dbarros | not opening on my end |
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| 21:46.04 | HardWall | hello guys, I'm trying to install debian from an USB and when booting it says missing config file and just shows a prompt... |
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| 21:47.01 | TJ- | dbarros: I'm not seeing any requests from you since 5 minutes ago when you got the 404 not found error, usiing the screwed up URL |
| 21:47.13 | zeeflo | how do i remove the entries in "last root" command ? |
| 21:47.49 | Mohamed_DZ | HardWall: Compare the hash, maybe your iso is corrupted |
| 21:48.04 | dbarros | https://iam.tj/projects/misc/dpkg-info-recreate.bash <--- is this the screwed URL ? |
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| 21:49.06 | TJ- | dbarros: No, that is the good one... I now see connections from your browser but for some reason it is *not* asking for any URL at all. Try a Ctrl+F5 refresh, I think it has cached the result locally |
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| 21:49.23 | HardWall | Mohamed_DZ, embarassing question, how d a check the hash of an ISO? |
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| 21:49.30 | HardWall | of an USB, sorry |
| 21:50.04 | Brigo | HardWall, ask google :) |
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| 21:50.23 | ctmjr | HardWall: how did you write the iso to the usb drive? |
| 21:50.33 | allizom | HardWall: I believe you haven't selected a DE during installation, at tasksel time |
| 21:51.37 | HardWall | ctmjr, using Ubuntu's utility, startup media creator or something... |
| 21:52.09 | changnesia | HardWall: can you log in? |
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| 21:53.10 | dbarros | TJ-, used another browser, it simply won't go |
| 21:53.35 | Brigo | ubuntu? |
| 21:53.37 | TJ- | dbarros: join #ubuntu-offtopic and lets try to figure it out |
| 21:54.02 | TJ- | dbarros: You just got it :) |
| 21:54.25 | dbarros | tj- ok i got it...lol |
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| 21:55.09 | ctmjr | HardWall: you should use cp to write to the usb cp /path/to/iso /dev/sdX, some of the usb writers out there do not work with the debian installer |
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| 21:58.15 | RealityVoid | well, that's not the whole story, ehn booting from the USB I get that prompt... I have no OS, just some prompt... so I typed Install and install ran... I got some errors during the install sw part and would only install debian desktop env out of all the options so I ran with that... afterwards it boots up to a black screen with a mouse cursor...I can force it to recovery mode and get a prompt but don't know waht to do |
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| 21:58.22 | RealityVoid | there... I thought I should go to the first point the install failed, burring to boot of the install USB... |
| 21:58.40 | RealityVoid | Sorry, I'm HardWall, I just had a power failure and, well, the nich was still busy on the server.. |
| 21:59.24 | Brigo | RealityVoid, i bet is a problem with the graphic card. |
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| 22:00.52 | RealityVoid | Huh, very probable,but then I should at least not get the USB boot "config missing" error... |
| 22:01.08 | RealityVoid | And if there is, anybody have any Ideea how I can fix it?\ |
| 22:01.34 | micechal | does it make much sense to have plymouth installed on a headless server? |
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| 22:03.07 | hawai`i | Sense? No. |
| 22:03.23 | hawai`i | It might be a dependency on a different package though. |
| 22:03.55 | micechal | I've seen it on all of my debian vpses |
| 22:04.07 | micechal | once even tried uninstalling it but that didn't quite work out |
| 22:04.21 | micechal | I was left out missing basic commands, such as "shutdown" :D |
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| 22:04.39 | hawai`i | Are you installing from your own ISO? |
| 22:04.50 | micechal | nope |
| 22:04.57 | micechal | it's provided by the host |
| 22:05.06 | hawai`i | Who's your provider? |
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| 22:05.43 | micechal | hmm, do you ask about the one I broke by uninstalling plymouth? |
| 22:05.48 | micechal | I'm using a different one right now |
| 22:06.23 | allizom | RealityVoid: I recommend you install again, with only Debian Desktop if that's what is possible without errors, then install a DE afterwards. It's all in that link they gave you in ##linux ( https://wiki.debian.org/DebianDesktop/Tasks ). If you want you can also just stick with the current install, log in and get a DE right now |
| 22:06.49 | hawai`i | micechal: You should only have what you installed, is what my end-game to say is. |
| 22:07.17 | micechal | hawai`i: so plymouth isn't installed by default on all debian installations? |
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| 22:08.08 | hawai`i | There isn't a single "Debian installation", per se. |
| 22:08.39 | hawai`i | You can install a minimal system, full blown 8 disc, DE-only, netinst. |
| 22:09.11 | micechal | I believe I'm using a "minimal" template right now |
| 22:09.46 | micechal | perhaps I'll have to once install the whole thing myself to see how the process looks |
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| 22:10.44 | hawai`i | Eh, I can't speak for what your VPS provider ships, but AFAIK, you don't need plymouth at all. |
| 22:11.22 | autospammer | hello #debian! please post your credit card numbers to verify ur ages please! |
| 22:11.28 | autospammer | just kidding |
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| 22:12.12 | micechal | hawai`i: https://bpaste.net/show/541d54ae066d |
| 22:12.20 | micechal | this is quite weird |
| 22:12.35 | hawai`i | micechal: What release are you using? |
| 22:13.08 | autospammer | seriously though pm me money on bitcoins? |
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| 22:13.20 | hawai`i | micechal: Squeeze / 6.x? |
| 22:13.26 | micechal | hawai`i: /etc/debian_version says 8.1 |
| 22:13.32 | hawai`i | wtf |
| 22:13.53 | autospammer | im a leet hacker and i need money to get a company to be rich like young americans |
| 22:14.03 | hawai`i | Didn't systemd become default init in 7? |
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| 22:14.34 | hawai`i | Why do you still have upstart? |
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| 22:14.45 | micechal | no idea really |
| 22:15.21 | hawai`i | uname -a? |
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| 22:15.36 | micechal | it was named "minimal" but that could as well mean that someone tweaked the template for lower requirements or something? |
| 22:15.41 | hawai`i | Also, lol @ running as root. |
| 22:15.50 | micechal | hawai`i: "Linux roubaix 2.6.32-042stab108.6 #1 SMP Thu Jul 9 13:40:24 MSK 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux" |
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| 22:16.12 | hawai`i | Uh |
| 22:16.33 | micechal | I know it isn't the best approach, but I don't care as I don't (yet) have any sensitive data or anything I would care about if someone decides to hack me or whatever |
| 22:16.39 | hawai`i | So that's an OpenVZ RHEL6 kernel? |
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| 22:16.56 | micechal | yes, openvz |
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| 22:23.59 | hawai`i | micechal: Not sure. DigitalOcean has a vanilla Debian install. VULTR allows providing your own ISO. |
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| 22:25.06 | hawai`i | I don't much care for the design behind OpenVZ to learn more about it. |
| 22:25.45 | hawai`i | But you have a shared kernel, so you're limited by the virtualizing host. |
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| 22:26.17 | micechal | that's the reason it can be so cheap, I believe |
| 22:26.37 | micechal | ie. 3 eur annually |
| 22:26.43 | hawai`i | Wow. |
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| 22:28.35 | hawai`i | Who is this provider? |
| 22:29.41 | micechal | http://lowendspirit.com/ |
| 22:29.53 | hawai`i | Ah okay yes. |
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| 23:00.50 | Patero-ng | good evening my fellow americans |
| 23:01.22 | Patero-ng | I have one problem with debian, it will only load from a usb2 hub it won't load when I connect the stick directly to the pc, it's a usb3 stick |
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| 23:21.45 | Chocolate_Chip | I was given this advice to impliment into a bash script I am making |
| 23:21.46 | Chocolate_Chip | https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/50097460/flt-friendly-linux-thread#p50100227 |
| 23:21.54 | Chocolate_Chip | I don't know how to use this though |
| 23:22.00 | Chocolate_Chip | Any suggestions? |
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| 23:23.06 | Chocolate_Chip | Anyone willing to help me |
| 23:24.18 | Chocolate_Chip | Anyone? |
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| 23:24.52 | Chocolate_Chip | Anyone? |
| 23:25.39 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, can you explain what do you want to do? |
| 23:26.31 | Chocolate_Chip | Use the suggestion in that URL link to impliment it to my script |
| 23:26.48 | Chocolate_Chip | https://github.com/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript/ |
| 23:27.31 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, i see |
| 23:27.55 | Brigo | !preseed |
| 23:27.55 | dpkg | [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>. |
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| 23:28.33 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, i think it will be less "newbe" modify the installer using preseeding. |
| 23:28.43 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, " OTHERWISE, THE SCRIPT WILL FAIL, AND QUITE POSSIBLY BREAK YOUR COMPUTER" ...well...that's not awful |
| 23:29.10 | Chocolate_Chip | So the suggestion I was given was to modify the actual debian installer? |
| 23:29.21 | Chocolate_Chip | I can't do that, so the suggestin was nonsense then. |
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| 23:31.01 | Chocolate_Chip | Brigo, right? |
| 23:31.08 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, you can. i've done it. i made the first debian xfs installer way back in the day |
| 23:31.28 | Chocolate_Chip | Yes, but this script is designed to run after you have installed the system |
| 23:31.42 | Chocolate_Chip | It's a script. I'm not going to run an entire installer. |
| 23:31.45 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, you can use preseed instead fo your script. |
| 23:31.49 | Chocolate_Chip | That person's suggestion was nonsense then? |
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| 23:33.09 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, you are forgeting some desktop environments, like mate or lxde. |
| 23:33.32 | Chocolate_Chip | Oh. I forgot to remove mate |
| 23:33.37 | Chocolate_Chip | LXDE is what this installs |
| 23:33.52 | Chocolate_Chip | So there is no point in removing it just to reinstall it |
| 23:34.02 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, remove graphic enviroments is pointless, if you dont want if, don't install it first. |
| 23:34.45 | Brigo | you will can't install firmware-linux-free withou non-free repos configured. |
| 23:35.07 | Chocolate_Chip | firmware-linux-free is a free package |
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| 23:35.57 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, ah, right my mistake. |
| 23:36.17 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, i think this is a very hard working script, congratulations. |
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| 23:36.34 | Chocolate_Chip | The GPL forbids me including non-free packages |
| 23:36.37 | Brigo | but a bit newbe, yes. |
| 23:36.37 | Chocolate_Chip | ...I think |
| 23:36.49 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, no, it isn't. |
| 23:37.09 | Chocolate_Chip | huh? |
| 23:37.37 | markybob | it's really horribly written. yes, i read it all |
| 23:37.43 | Chocolate_Chip | Damn. My wireless mouse bateries are dieing |
| 23:38.01 | Chocolate_Chip | markybob, is it the indent? I haven't fixed the indent yet cuz it's still in beta |
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| 23:42.02 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, i was talking about efficiency |
| 23:43.18 | Chocolate_Chip | Well, I keep being told to put the packages on the same line, so they install together |
| 23:43.31 | Chocolate_Chip | But in my experience, it can break |
| 23:43.40 | Chocolate_Chip | like apt-get install package1 package2 package3 |
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| 23:43.54 | Chocolate_Chip | package2 has no installtion canidate, or has been replaced by another packjage |
| 23:44.07 | Chocolate_Chip | Thenit idesn'tt even attempt pacxkages1 or 3 |
| 23:44.47 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: well use tab complete so you get actual package names |
| 23:44.52 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, sure, but you feed things into sources.list. so you control that |
| 23:45.16 | markybob | line 294 |
| 23:45.31 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: tab complete as you type the command to verify each package before you move onto the next one |
| 23:45.52 | Chocolate_Chip | Is there a command that allows packages1 and pacckages3 to install even though package2 can't? |
| 23:47.37 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: a for loop |
| 23:47.49 | Chocolate_Chip | shay_shay, huh? |
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| 23:48.03 | markybob | yeah, that'd work |
| 23:48.21 | Chocolate_Chip | So by adding -a it will work? |
| 23:48.26 | chozha | Hi i need one help related to folder and file permission , i need to create a dir which has r+w for all user and then owner of the file which is inside de dir is alone able to "rm " that file others have read only asses to dat file |
| 23:48.41 | Chocolate_Chip | apt-get install -y -a package1 package2 package3 |
| 23:48.48 | Chocolate_Chip | package2 cannnot install |
| 23:48.55 | Chocolate_Chip | package1 and package3 will? |
| 23:48.55 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: for pkg in vim tmux mc moc; do sudo apt-get install $pkg; done |
| 23:48.59 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, no, he's talking about bash scripting a loop |
| 23:49.01 | shay_shay | er |
| 23:49.06 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: for pkg in vim tmux mc moc; do sudo apt-get -y install $pkg; done |
| 23:49.24 | Chocolate_Chip | uh.. |
| 23:49.27 | Chocolate_Chip | I don't use vim |
| 23:49.36 | chozha | ? any one der |
| 23:49.41 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, no one cares. it was an example |
| 23:49.45 | netsca | Have you tried sudo apt-get install package1 && sudo apt-get install package2 && sudo apt-get install package3 |
| 23:49.49 | shay_shay | vim tmux mc moc are all packages !!!! |
| 23:49.55 | shay_shay | lol |
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| 23:50.21 | Chocolate_Chip | netsca, that's the same thing I am doing now, except it has even more chance of failing |
| 23:50.37 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: i just gave you a command that does what you want |
| 23:50.53 | chozha | grrr |
| 23:50.54 | shay_shay | what is POSIX syntax against your arbitrary rules? |
| 23:51.07 | Chocolate_Chip | How do you define $pkg in the script? |
| 23:51.26 | shay_shay | in |
| 23:51.43 | Chocolate_Chip | What |
| 23:52.53 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: tell me three or four packages you want to install, hypothetically |
| 23:53.04 | shay_shay | i will make an example with your packages |
| 23:53.09 | shay_shay | then youll see the syntax |
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| 23:53.25 | Chocolate_Chip | https://github.com/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript/blob/master/newbie.sh |
| 23:53.35 | shay_shay | thats not a package name |
| 23:53.52 | shay_shay | thats a url |
| 23:53.57 | Chocolate_Chip | That is the script I am writing. Look at it |
| 23:54.04 | Chocolate_Chip | It has every package |
| 23:54.04 | netsca | is mc midnight commander? |
| 23:54.10 | shay_shay | netsca: yes |
| 23:54.25 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: i'm not going to do all the work for you |
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| 23:54.35 | shay_shay | if you cant even meet me in the middle, forget it |
| 23:54.36 | netsca | Have you tried ranger? |
| 23:54.43 | shay_shay | netsca: yes its good |
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| 23:56.07 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: ok i looked at the script, i think i see what you want. thats not what you asked for tho. what you want.. or need i should say, is a for loop that increments a variable if there is an error |
| 23:56.12 | shay_shay | or writes to a log |
| 23:56.18 | shay_shay | and keeps going |
| 23:56.19 | aaro | Chocolate_Chip: mind telling how old are you? |
| 23:56.26 | Chocolate_Chip | Why |
| 23:56.46 | netsca | Thats seems like an odd question aaro |
| 23:56.58 | shay_shay | i'm kinda wondering too |
| 23:57.00 | shay_shay | :D |
| 23:57.17 | shay_shay | either very young or very old i am guessing |
| 23:57.45 | Brigo | not very old i would bet :) |
| 23:57.48 | netsca | Why does it matter though |
| 23:57.57 | Brigo | just wondering :) |
| 23:57.58 | Chocolate_Chip | I don't like giving my age, but I am between 16 and 27 |
| 23:58.00 | Chocolate_Chip | There you go |
| 23:58.09 | netsca | I bet its 16 |
| 23:58.34 | shay_shay | ok i think we harped on him enough |
| 23:58.44 | netsca | yeah sorry |
| 23:58.48 | Brigo | i told you he isn't very old :D |
| 23:59.13 | Chocolate_Chip | No. I am not 16 |
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| 23:59.43 | netsca | I don't really consider 16 young i consider 12 or 13 young |