| 00:00.02 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: pretend foo1 foo2 and foo3 are packages: for $pkg in foo1 foo2 foo3; do sudo apt-get install -y $pkg; done |
| 00:00.19 | Chocolate_Chip | Do 12 and 13 year olds even have the ability to write BASH script? |
| 00:00.25 | netsca | is the -y safe |
| 00:00.25 | shay_shay | you can add as many packages as you want between that "in" and the ; |
| 00:00.39 | shay_shay | netsca: no its not, its just an example of a for loop |
| 00:00.39 | Chocolate_Chip | OH |
| 00:00.42 | Chocolate_Chip | So |
| 00:00.49 | Brigo | Chocolate_Chip, any way, apt-get install <all packages you want> will not fail unless there is a confict |
| 00:00.51 | Chocolate_Chip | sudo apt-get install -y $pkg; |
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| 00:00.57 | Chocolate_Chip | package1 |
| 00:00.59 | Chocolate_Chip | package2 |
| 00:01.02 | shay_shay | no |
| 00:01.03 | Chocolate_Chip | package3 |
| 00:01.04 | Chocolate_Chip | done |
| 00:01.06 | Chocolate_Chip | Oh |
| 00:01.07 | shay_shay | no |
| 00:01.11 | shay_shay | not even close |
| 00:01.20 | shay_shay | i give up |
| 00:01.42 | shay_shay | i just told you the syntax, why did you rearrange it |
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| 00:03.03 | Brigo | shay_shay, the for is useless, is better just apt-get install $pkg. If it fail, the for will fail too. |
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| 00:03.15 | Chocolate_Chip | choco@debian:~$ sudo apt-get install shutter doesnt-exist package3 bb |
| 00:03.15 | Chocolate_Chip | Reading package lists... Done |
| 00:03.15 | Chocolate_Chip | Building dependency tree |
| 00:03.15 | Chocolate_Chip | Reading state information... Done |
| 00:03.15 | Chocolate_Chip | E: Unable to locate package doesnt-exist |
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| 00:03.32 | markybob | Chocolate_Chip, i'm looking at over a thousand lines. yeah, a loop is the way to go |
| 00:03.45 | shay_shay | Brigo: oh |
| 00:03.49 | netsca | Why is paste.debian required what so bad about the other ones? |
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| 00:04.04 | Brigo | netsca, who say that? |
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| 00:04.16 | phy1729 | netsca: it's not required it's just the one that the bot suggests |
| 00:04.24 | netsca | Chocolate_Chip was kicked from #debian by debhelper [flood. Please use â Cherax Destructor 2. Braden+ 2013 02:55 http://paste.debian.net instead.] |
| 00:04.52 | aaro | sighs |
| 00:04.59 | netsca | That cherax destructor line please ignor |
| 00:05.09 | phy1729 | pasting many lines in IRC is disruptive, so using a pastebin is preferred |
| 00:05.24 | chozha | hmm |
| 00:05.38 | chozha | phy1729, can u help ma |
| 00:05.42 | chozha | me* |
| 00:05.45 | shay_shay | brigo need continue |
| 00:05.46 | mutante | i like how it's on geo.. eh neocitiers |
| 00:05.52 | netsca | I know that I just thought he tried to use a diferent one nevermind |
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| 00:07.22 | shay_shay | Brigo: if thats true then why does this work: http://hastebin.com/emodudaroj.vhdl |
| 00:07.28 | shay_shay | all of those exited non zero^ |
| 00:07.47 | shay_shay | and the loop still continues iterating |
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| 00:08.38 | Brigo | shay_shay, yes, but some files get not installed, so it failed. |
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| 00:08.57 | shay_shay | Brigo: he wants it to continue even if some files dont get installed |
| 00:09.06 | ctmjr | this should be in #bash |
| 00:09.11 | shay_shay | ctmjr: sorry |
| 00:09.31 | Brigo | shay_shay, he shouldn't :) |
| 00:09.31 | Chocolate_Chip | I didn't come with a script question. I cam with a question involving apt in a script |
| 00:09.49 | shay_shay | Brigo: that may be true :) |
| 00:10.22 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: i suggest you read the man page |
| 00:10.24 | Brigo | shay_shay, if the script fails to install a package, fix the script. |
| 00:10.29 | shay_shay | of bash and apt |
| 00:10.33 | Chocolate_Chip | All I cam here for was someone said this |
| 00:10.34 | Chocolate_Chip | https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/50097460/flt-friendly-linux-thread#p50100227 |
| 00:10.53 | Chocolate_Chip | And I never saw this before and I don't fully understand it |
| 00:12.45 | shay_shay | Chocolate_Chip: try to get someone to help you in #bash |
| 00:12.53 | mutante | nice, 4chan reference, so here you go |
| 00:14.31 | mutante | Chocolate_Chip: install all the packages you want once, by script or manually, then run "dpkg --get-selections" and output that to a file. ship that file with your script and let it execute "dpkg --set-selections < thatfile.txt" |
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| 00:19.54 | Chocolate_Chip | So I apt-get the packages, run that command, then replace the entire script with the content of the file output? |
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| 00:22.13 | netsca | Choco chip did you make this https://github.com/Chocolate-Chip-Computing/DebianNewbieScript |
| 00:22.28 | Chocolate_Chip | That is the thing we are talking about, netsca |
| 00:22.37 | netsca | Oh |
| 00:23.23 | netsca | gpl3 why not wtfpl license |
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| 00:27.10 | netsca | Whats rsync? |
| 00:27.32 | nodus | !man rsync |
| 00:27.32 | dpkg | man rsync is probably at http://manpages.debian.org/rsync where you can view many Debian man pages. Ask me about <docs> <dmp> <grounding> <search>. |
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| 00:29.07 | netsca | Why so many ascii meme/texts |
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| 00:30.43 | netsca | choco I saw you site please please read this http://www.catb.org/esr/html-hell.html |
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| 00:32.01 | mutante | netsca: are you really for wtfpl? including that somebody takes it all and then re-licenses are something completely not free? |
| 00:32.15 | netsca | Oh i was joking about wtftpl |
| 00:32.21 | mutante | :) |
| 00:32.33 | netsca | I do like the name though |
| 00:32.44 | mutante | hehe, kind of, yea |
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| 00:34.14 | Chocolate_Chip | nmschulte, It's designed to look like a website that hasn't been updated since 2003 |
| 00:34.18 | Chocolate_Chip | It's a nostalgia site |
| 00:34.23 | jmcnaugh1 | Chocolate_Chip: hey. i think that you might be thinking about the problem wrong. If a part of the script failes (a package does not install for example), the script should stop working and give the user an error message that lets them know what happened so they have an idea how to fix it. The way you're doing it, and error messages will flash by on the screen and not be noticed. |
| 00:34.28 | netsca | Oh ok thank god |
| 00:34.29 | Chocolate_Chip | It is written in html5 |
| 00:34.48 | Chocolate_Chip | jmcnaugh1, I've thought of that. |
| 00:35.00 | Chocolate_Chip | I don't know how to do that, and DuckDuckGo is no help |
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| 00:36.29 | Chocolate_Chip | netsca, http://dancingjesus.uphero.com/ |
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| 00:37.03 | netsca | I think I just died a little |
| 00:37.42 | Chocolate_Chip | It's REALLY funny if you play all the videos at the same time |
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| 00:39.33 | jmcnaught | Chocolate_Chip: maybe instead of searching DDG one problem at a time you need to spend some time reading a bash scripting guide cover to cover to get a solid foundation |
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| 00:39.51 | Chocolate_Chip | I haven't found many good ones |
| 00:40.22 | shay_shay | there's a cli "learn code the hard way" book |
| 00:40.42 | mutante | Chocolate_Chip: write a bash script to download a bash scripting guide |
| 00:41.01 | Chocolate_Chip | haha |
| 00:41.11 | shay_shay | write a bash script that writes bash scripting guides XD |
| 00:45.22 | jmcnaught | Chocolate_Chip: http://tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/index.html and http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ and http://wiki.bash-hackers.org/doku.php also recommend reading debian-handbook and debian-reference |
| 00:45.42 | shay_shay | jmcnaught: I took the codecademy bash course it was terrible. it teaches useless use of cat |
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| 00:53.10 | netsca | Hey Chocolate_chip I snet you a friedn request on tox |
| 00:53.19 | netsca | snet>>sent |
| 00:53.25 | greenman | So, every upgrade went smooth up through jessie |
| 00:53.34 | greenman | because jessie is awful and ruins everything |
| 00:53.36 | greenman | :( |
| 00:53.56 | greenman | My current problme is the machine won't boot. Gives a kernel panic at boot |
| 00:54.07 | greenman | I tried things that have worked on other machines |
| 00:54.14 | greenman | making sure the drives are in by UUID |
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| 00:54.33 | ryouma | some consider useless use of cat to be useful, despite being aware that it is considered useless |
| 00:54.46 | greenman | making sure the ext4 module is loaded in initramfs (well as well as I can, this box doesn't have the initramfs prompt like another machine) |
| 00:55.19 | Brigo | greenman, taunt jessie isn't the best way for getting help in this channel :) |
| 00:55.54 | Brigo | greenman, did you install a new kernel? |
| 00:55.55 | dvs | she'll lasso you1 |
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| 00:56.35 | greenman | Brigo: taunt? I may have exaggerated a mite bit. But I have had nothing but problems with it. Every single upgrade has had something MAJOR wrong with it. all the other ones go smooth, it's just wheezy -> jessie that causes problems. |
| 00:56.42 | greenman | sorry if my frustration bleeds through. |
| 00:57.07 | greenman | Brigo: well, I think that's part of the problem, it did install a new kernel, but it didn't seem to do the other tasks associated with it. |
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| 00:57.37 | greenman | I had to do a grub update manually and I had to create an initrd file using update-innitramfs |
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| 00:59.05 | Patero | I added ehci-pci and ehci-hcd to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules so I can have usb3 support for debian during grub booting but still I get a prompt initramfs and it says it can not find ehci-orion module in modules.dep |
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| 01:01.54 | greenman | Any idea how to at least get the initramfs prompt? |
| 01:01.58 | Brigo | greenman, what kernel was that? |
| 01:02.08 | greenman | 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
| 01:03.06 | Brigo | greenman, that's the default jessie kernel, i think. |
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| 01:03.19 | greenman | Brigo: yeah |
| 01:03.46 | Brigo | you install a new kernel or not? i lost. |
| 01:04.06 | greenman | Brigo: as part of the upgrade from wheezy to jessie, it installed a new kernel |
| 01:04.31 | Brigo | ah, ok, i think you installed a new kernel not from jessie. |
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| 01:04.43 | dvs | !kernels |
| 01:04.46 | greenman | Brigo: I haven't manually installed a kernel |
| 01:04.49 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, mainline: 4.2, stable 4.1: 4.1.6, longterm 3.18: 3.18.21, longterm 3.14: 3.14.51, longterm 3.12: 3.12.47, longterm 3.10: 3.10.87, longterm 3.4: 3.4.108, longterm 3.2: 3.2.71, longterm 2.6.32: 2.6.32.67, linux-next: next-20150903 |
| 01:05.03 | Brigo | and as soon as you upgrade to jessie the system stop booting, i am right? |
| 01:05.05 | greenman | I upgraded to jessie. But in previous upgrades I didn't have to manually do anything |
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| 01:05.24 | greenman | in this upgrade, I had to run a grub update and an update initramfs to create those things for the kernel |
| 01:05.30 | greenman | I think something went wrong somewhere... |
| 01:05.32 | Brigo | we are talking about a VM? |
| 01:05.43 | greenman | Brigo: correct. I can boot to the old kernel just fine |
| 01:05.46 | greenman | Brigo: yeah. |
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| 01:06.28 | Brigo | greenman, are the package structure correct? is there any error with apt regarding some package |
| 01:06.30 | Brigo | ? |
| 01:06.38 | greenman | I'll check |
| 01:07.19 | ser_berry | trying to allow a web server on port 8000. what could I be doing wrong here? https://bpaste.net/show/c2653cf85617 |
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| 01:07.43 | ser_berry | I've also tried removing the -state part too |
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| 01:08.06 | Brigo | ser_berry, what are the default policies? |
| 01:08.17 | ser_berry | at the bottom of the paste |
| 01:09.55 | ser_berry | maybe I am misunderstanding |
| 01:10.40 | Brigo | ser_berry, it is too late for me, so i am not sure about myself, but i think that port is open. Is there some daemon listenin there? |
| 01:10.55 | Brigo | can you check it with netstat? |
| 01:10.58 | ser_berry | according to my policy only 5000 and 8000 should be open |
| 01:11.31 | ser_berry | don't see anything listening in netstat -l |
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| 01:12.24 | Brigo | ser_berry, well then it will be imposible to connect to that port. |
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| 01:12.44 | ser_berry | hmm perhaps it's not iptables |
| 01:12.54 | ser_berry | I did try to nc it, and I got connection refused. I assumed it was because it wasn't open |
| 01:12.59 | Phoul | Does anyone know how to make libpam ask for both a fingerprint and password for logins? |
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| 01:14.37 | ser_berry | it was. thanks for your help Brigo |
| 01:14.48 | greenman | Brigo: apparently something didn't get finished during the upgrade |
| 01:15.01 | Brigo | ser_berry, np :) |
| 01:15.02 | greenman | I ran an apt-get autoremove and it finished setting a bunch of stuff up |
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| 01:15.08 | greenman | including kernel support stuff |
| 01:15.13 | greenman | booted, loaded super fast. |
| 01:15.20 | greenman | Now to see if oracle comes up on it's own |
| 01:15.24 | greenman | fingers crossed |
| 01:15.30 | Brigo | :) |
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| 01:17.46 | Brigo | greenman, sorry, man, i have to go. |
| 01:18.06 | Brigo | may be someone else can help you. |
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| 01:20.45 | greenman | okay, see ya |
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| 01:29.30 | tmh1999 | Hi guys, I have a question and I hope someone here could help me out :D I am running Debian Jessie with GNOME 3.14 on my laptop. I have a tweaked Firefox application. When I search for the application (1) using Windows-key in GNOME-shell, I can see the tweaked icon (instead of FIrefox) icon. When (2) I Alt+Tab between applications, I also can see that tweaked icon. My question is with other distro like CentOS, openSUSE, Ubuntu, I can do (1) but I cannot |
| 01:29.30 | tmh1999 | do (2). It always shows Firefox default icon when I do (2). I know this question related to GNOME but since only Debian can do this trick, I am really curious. Thank you. |
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| 01:29.58 | tmh1999 | This is my /home/jason/.local/share/applications/tweaked_firefox.desktop file |
| 01:29.59 | tmh1999 | http://pastebin.com/Y1vWQvia |
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| 01:43.20 | Evidlo1 | Could someone help me out with a broken packages problem? I've been trying to figure it out for a while now. |
| 01:43.54 | Evidlo1 | trying to install a package tells me I have held packages, but dpkg --get-selections has no held packages |
| 01:45.35 | Patero | I added ehci-pci and ehci-hcd to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules so I can have usb3 support for debian during grub booting but still I get a prompt initramfs and it says it can not find ehci-orion module in modules.dep |
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| 01:47.31 | RoyK | Patero: did you run update-initramfs -u ? |
| 01:47.50 | Patero | yes RoyK |
| 01:47.59 | Patero | depmod -a too |
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| 01:48.03 | RoyK | sorry, don't know then |
| 01:49.28 | greenman | Patero: make sure that they are called what you put in modules file. If it failes to boot at startup you can do a modprobe at initramfs prompt to see if that loads the module and see if you can boot. |
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| 01:50.37 | Patero | is the module it can't find |
| 01:52.22 | Chocolate_Chip | How do I report a bug in apt-get |
| 01:52.35 | Chocolate_Chip | Well, it's more of a feature request |
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| 01:53.35 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: same as you report any bug, using the BTS (bugs.debian.org) or reportbug |
| 01:53.57 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: feature requests will be a wishlist bug, what feature do you request, you should check the BTS to see if that feature is being requested already or not. |
| 01:55.48 | Chocolate_Chip | https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Doug_Winger |
| 01:56.03 | Chocolate_Chip | https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Greymuzzle |
| 01:56.11 | Chocolate_Chip | oops |
| 01:56.16 | Chocolate_Chip | Linked that in the wrong window |
| 01:56.18 | Chocolate_Chip | >.< |
| 01:56.27 | Chocolate_Chip | Doing so many things at the same time |
| 01:56.47 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: mistakes happen, just keep the noise down when they do. (: |
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| 02:18.02 | jaggzes | opendkim-tools : Breaks: opendkim (< 2.5.2+dfsg-2~) but 2.0.1+dfsg-1 is to be installed |
| 02:18.02 | jaggzes | E: Broken packages |
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| 02:19.23 | somiaj | jaggzes: what version of debian are you running? |
| 02:19.34 | jaggzes | I don't want to tell you.. 6 |
| 02:19.53 | somiaj | jaggzes: do you have squeeze-lts sources enabled? |
| 02:20.00 | somiaj | ,v opendkim |
| 02:20.01 | judd | Package: opendkim on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.0.1+dfsg-1; squeeze-backports: 2.6.8-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.6.8-4; jessie: 2.9.2-2; sid: 2.10.3-3; stretch: 2.10.3-3 |
| 02:20.14 | somiaj | ,v opendkim-tools |
| 02:20.15 | judd | Package: opendkim-tools on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 2.6.8-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.6.8-4; jessie: 2.9.2-2; sid: 2.10.3-3; stretch: 2.10.3-3 |
| 02:20.30 | jaggzes | I'm not sure what lts is |
| 02:20.46 | somiaj | jaggzes: you better add the sources, only way to get security support (Also only for servers not desktop)_ |
| 02:20.51 | somiaj | !tell jaggzes about squeeze-lts |
| 02:20.53 | jaggzes | gotcha.. reading about it |
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| 02:21.30 | somiaj | jaggzes: anyways, looks like your issue is you want to install a package from squeeze-backports but are pulling in dependecies from squeeze which is what is causing the problem, you need opendkim from squeeze-backports (not squeeze) |
| 02:21.39 | somiaj | jaggzes: how are you trying to install this package? |
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| 02:21.59 | jaggzes | I was using apt-get install opendkim opendkim-tools |
| 02:22.21 | jaggzes | after an apt-get update but not after an upgrade... I need to upgrade sometime too |
| 02:22.25 | somiaj | jaggzes: problem is squeeze doesn't contain opendkim-tools, you will need to add a -t squeeze-backports to that line to ensure you get the dependencies you need |
| 02:22.45 | somiaj | jaggzes: you should add the squeeze-lts sources before your upgrade, most likely your kernel and some other thigns are insecure. |
| 02:22.48 | jaggzes | oh.. I do have backports in my sources, btw |
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| 02:23.27 | somiaj | jaggzes: but due to pinning, you ahve to specifiy to install from squeeze-backports (it pushing the pinning of that repo up for the install), hence apt-get didn't find the right depends since you didn't tell it specifically to use squeeze-backports |
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| 02:24.01 | jaggzes | i 2.6.8-4~bpo60+1 |
| 02:24.06 | jaggzes | that's -tools |
| 02:24.19 | somiaj | jaggzes: yea tools only comes from squeeze-backports but opendkim is in both |
| 02:24.19 | jaggzes | I got it in by installing it alone |
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| 02:24.23 | jaggzes | I see |
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| 02:24.33 | jaggzes | thanks for explaining all this |
| 02:26.46 | somiaj | jaggzes: so when you said to install opendkim it conflicts with the opendkim-tools you have installed unless you say to isntall it from squeeze-backports |
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| 02:28.27 | percY- | Anyone know what this error is? http://puu.sh/k0gjX/472fcae506.png |
| 02:29.32 | jaggzes | why's it not say "opendkim-tools(bpo...): breaks"? am I missing something? |
| 02:30.09 | jaggzes | percy, yuck |
| 02:30.12 | somiaj | jaggzes: if you look up I had the bot tell me what versions were aviailibe in what repo. It is the versions you have to look up and then figure it out. |
| 02:30.14 | jaggzes | percy, can you see higher up in the log? |
| 02:30.47 | somiaj | jaggzes: but backport packages should have a bpo attached tot heir vesion (usually a minus to make them lower version than the version in the next release so the upgrades can happen) |
| 02:31.16 | jaggzes | somiaj: I see.. interesting. (I was just saying that probably apt-get could say it too.. but I'm not complaining) |
| 02:31.23 | somiaj | percY-: that is a kernel opps, either a bad kernel or bad hardware. There are various ways to check hardware. |
| 02:32.04 | somiaj | jaggzes: well packages don't know what repo they are from and apt-get uses pinning to know what version to get. So really it is best it just tells you what versions are the issue and let you track it down. |
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| 02:32.24 | percY- | What is interesting is i was trying to figure out why event log on ipmi isn't showing anything |
| 02:32.36 | percY- | so i went to enable a few settings under event logging in bios |
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| 02:32.46 | percY- | and that error popped up upon booting |
| 02:32.49 | somiaj | jaggzes: i.e. if you look at 'apt-cache policy opendkim' you will see there are multiple choices, and apt chooses the highest pinned and then highest version. So the problem was you didn't tell apt-get to install to install from backports. |
| 02:33.11 | somiaj | percY-: could be a driver/hardware conflict and might be best to disable those features. |
| 02:34.04 | somiaj | jaggzes: and backports are pinned low by default, you do not want to upgrade every package on your system to backport versions with an upgrade. backports should only be installed if you explicity want them (of course when you start mixing backports in the mix you can get dependency conflicts liek you found) |
| 02:34.10 | jaggzes | yeah, it makes perfect sense.. but could I modify apt-get to, perhaps, display the version of the package? (it displays the version for the ones conflicting afterwards) |
| 02:34.15 | percY- | basically the two i enabled were pci error loggging and log system boot event, in this menu http://puu.sh/k0gtI/81139ac85e.png |
| 02:34.27 | jaggzes | not that i'm about to go modifying apt-get source code... |
| 02:34.30 | percY- | You think enabling those caused the error? |
| 02:34.40 | somiaj | jaggzes: yea I never really though to much about changing the output, I just use apt-cache policy and other tools to check thigns manually. |
| 02:35.02 | somiaj | percY-: if it was working fine before you enabled those features, it is a good bet that is the issue |
| 02:35.06 | jaggzes | somiaj: I could have saved minutes of your life! |
| 02:35.21 | jaggzes | percY-: disable one at a time and try? |
| 02:35.26 | somiaj | percY-: if you changed kernels and other things in the process it gets harder to say what the issue is |
| 02:35.28 | percY- | I'm going to try that |
| 02:35.33 | percY- | I haven't changed anything |
| 02:35.42 | percY- | All of the sudden i noticed my file server rebooting randomly out of no where |
| 02:35.44 | jaggzes | i'm guessing pci error logging support to start |
| 02:35.51 | jaggzes | oh |
| 02:35.53 | jaggzes | ew |
| 02:35.56 | percY- | so i tried checking bios to see why event logging in ipmi wasn't working, hoping it would tell me something |
| 02:36.13 | percY- | thats why I went into bios to check logging options |
| 02:36.16 | jaggzes | and nothing in logs of why it rebooted, eh? |
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| 02:36.47 | percY- | To be honest, I'm still learning linux so I'm not sure what to look for in logs. |
| 02:36.49 | somiaj | percY-: if the issues started without changing anything, bad hardware is always a possibility. I always like to pretend my hardware is good when I get lockups and kerel opps, but badhardware always ended up being the issue. |
| 02:36.57 | percY- | i grepped some log's for "error" and nothing popped up |
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| 02:37.30 | jaggzes | look for when the system booted back up.. right before that is when it went down :) |
| 02:37.32 | somiaj | percY-: best to just scroll though the logs and look at things, after a while you begin to notice what is abnoral. |
| 02:37.49 | somiaj | but yea once you have a time stamp for when it went down, you can start narrowign down your search |
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| 02:40.01 | percY- | the random rebooting started occuring after i shut down my file server for the first time to dust it off from the inside, and turned it back on after |
| 02:40.15 | percY- | I doubt anything got loose hmm, I'd better take a look |
| 02:40.22 | somiaj | percY-: maybe you damaged teh hardware during the cleaning |
| 02:40.42 | Josh` | I had an issue with init (/sbin/init was misisng). This was resolved with a dist-upgrade, and now my HDD UUID's are different than what I have in /etc/fstab.. Why would my UUID's be different now, and should I be worried? |
| 02:41.27 | percY- | from dusting components? |
| 02:41.36 | somiaj | Josh`: UUID's can be changed, but they should not just change. They are a part of the filesystem. |
| 02:42.04 | Josh` | hmm. |
| 02:42.13 | Josh` | so now I'm concerned I have filesystem problems |
| 02:42.23 | somiaj | percY-: how did you dust them? Maybe you caused a short during the processes, static electricity, maybe hardware was just overheated and on its way out and you were just the final straw. |
| 02:42.27 | Josh` | and I dont see how, this is an ESXi vm |
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| 02:42.48 | somiaj | Josh`: http://askubuntu.com/questions/200923/what-scenarios-causes-a-hard-drive-uuid-to-change |
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| 02:43.05 | ScottO_ | whats the best way to keep a python process alive? |
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| 02:43.29 | somiaj | I don't know what ESXi vm is, could it be the virtual file systems were messed with by the host? |
| 02:43.32 | ScottO_ | i was thinking about having something check for a process id and if none exists then starting a new process |
| 02:43.34 | somiaj | ScottO_: what do you mean? |
| 02:43.44 | percY- | somiaj: http://puu.sh/k0iYi/1d95dd4326.png , I guess enabling those features did cause the kernel panic |
| 02:44.00 | Josh` | somiaj, I havent formatted, and I havent repartitioned, that just leaves filesystem errors, right? |
| 02:44.03 | ScottO_ | iw as running a raspberry pi to control something and it seems when the process died, the GPIO on it kept on giving the signal |
| 02:44.14 | somiaj | ScottO_: so you want to basically make a deamon? And have some third party program check if it is running and keep it running? |
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| 02:44.24 | ScottO_ | essentially |
| 02:44.40 | ScottO_ | im guessing its needed now after i got home and found my equipment running when it shouldnt :OP |
| 02:44.56 | ScottO_ | i think thats what happened, but i cant be sure |
| 02:45.32 | ScottO_ | either that or its the clock |
| 02:45.34 | somiaj | ScottO_: we don't really support raspbian here (usually assume people are running that on the pi), so you should respect that. That being said sysvinit has daemon-tools, and if on jessie systemd I thikn by default has checks to ensure that a process that is started up keeps running. In either case I would look into that. |
| 02:45.47 | ScottO_ | i know you dont support it but im not asking anything very specific to raspbian |
| 02:46.06 | ScottO_ | you coudl easily assume im running a process on debian controlling some IO with a python script |
| 02:46.17 | ScottO_ | but, not hardware clock :P |
| 02:46.19 | ScottO_ | *no |
| 02:46.36 | somiaj | ScottO_: I understand, but we choose here to support debian and not any of its derivatives. There is ##linux and maybe #python. |
| 02:47.04 | ScottO_ | im more familiar with debian than raspbian, but im sure the OS works about the same |
| 02:47.18 | ScottO_ | i understand |
| 02:47.36 | somiaj | but my suggestion would be look into daemon-tools or systemd and make your process into a daemon and let the tools out there already to keep it running. I do see some daemon tools in python, and myave #python might have some advise on that. |
| 02:47.48 | ScottO_ | oh intersting |
| 02:47.56 | ScottO_ | i didnt know there were tools for daemons already |
| 02:48.06 | ScottO_ | thanks |
| 02:48.17 | somiaj | yea, deamon-tools was for sysvinit, but I think many of that is included in systemd |
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| 02:55.20 | somiaj | Josh`: I can't say more than that UUID is part of the filesystem and shoudltn change unless the filesystem is changed in some way. |
| 02:55.53 | somiaj | percY-: well at least you are running again, but if you are having rebooting problems, might need to do some hardware testing or keep looking on the logs and trying to find what happened right before the reboot |
| 02:56.10 | percY- | Are you familiar with supermicro ipmi? |
| 02:56.15 | somiaj | nope |
| 02:56.28 | somiaj | I'm just a desktop hobbiest with one computer |
| 02:56.32 | percY- | Ahh okay |
| 02:56.45 | percY- | Much appreciated somiaj |
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| 03:08.01 | Josh` | okay, so |
| 03:08.05 | Josh` | mabye just false alarm |
| 03:08.38 | Josh` | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:09.16 | Josh` | but I'm missing one |
| 03:10.42 | somiaj | could it be the disk(or virtual disk) it was on is not attached to the system? |
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| 03:14.43 | Josh` | I only have two disks, a system with 3 partitions, and a data with one partition |
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| 03:15.13 | somiaj | sounds like your second disk is not responding? Maybe check dmesg? |
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| 03:15.45 | Josh` | ahh, third partition on system disk is swap |
| 03:15.56 | Josh` | so that's why only 3 devices in by-uuid/ |
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| 03:20.32 | Josh` | hmm, dmesg is saying bad superblock on /dev/sdb1 (data) drive |
| 03:22.35 | Josh` | running xfs_repair |
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| 03:24.35 | Josh` | xfs_repair doesnt complain about a bad superblock, and it mounts fine afterwards |
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| 03:41.35 | yourname | did the apt sources change for wheezy when jessie came out ? |
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| 03:47.31 | somiaj | yourname: if you had 'wheezy' in your sources.list no. If you have 'stable' in the sources.list yes, and this is why you should use code names (not release aliases) in your sources.list |
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| 04:58.53 | iio7 | Which desktop choice does there exist on Debian Stretch that hasn't been build against systemd? |
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| 05:00.31 | somiaj | iio7: I think gnome is the only one that requires systemd (but you can get away with systemd-shim). But I would think at least mate, xfce4 and lxde aren't built against it |
| 05:01.19 | iio7 | I thought that too, but after a test today where I installed xfce4 and removed systemd, some stuff broke. |
| 05:01.49 | iio7 | Guess I am gonna go with something really simple then like Blackbox or something. |
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| 05:26.25 | chozha | how to run an application by default with sudo previlage ?? |
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| 05:26.53 | chozha | from gui ? |
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| 05:27.24 | chozha | for eg if i want to run vmware from shortcut |
| 05:29.28 | somiaj | chozha: you can use visudo to modify your sudoers file and allow that command to be run without a password and then put sudo in the command short and it won't ask for a password |
| 05:30.00 | somiaj | chozha: you could use something like gtksudo to run it giving you a grpahical box you enter in the password when you run the short cut |
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| 05:31.06 | chozha | :| |
| 05:32.00 | somiaj | you could set uid on the application, but I woudln't suggest that |
| 05:33.15 | chozha | somiaj, is there anyway to modify vmware.desktop ? so dat by default whhen i cllick the icon it run the apllication with sudo previlage ? |
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| 05:35.09 | jmcnaught | chozha: in the vmware.desktop change the line "Exec=vmware" to "Exec=pkexec vmware" (replace vmware with the actual command) |
| 05:35.35 | chozha | jmcnaught, Thanks !!! |
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| 05:37.29 | chozha | by default it looks like this "Exec=/usr/bin/vmware %U " should i modify with "Exec=pkexec /usr/bin/vmware %U" |
| 05:38.02 | jmcnaught | chozha: let me know if that works. instead of vmware i use libvirt (which has the virt-manager GUI). instead of virt-manager running as root, you can add your user to the libvirt group. then virt-manager runs as your user but can control libvirt in the backend |
| 05:38.57 | jmcnaught | chozha: yeah. and you should be able to put the new .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications (which is better than modifying the one in /usr) |
| 05:40.10 | chozha | okay jmcnaught |
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| 05:47.14 | chozha | jmcnaught, i cant run de application using dat shortcut |
| 05:47.42 | chozha | There was an error launching the application. jmcnaught |
| 05:48.20 | chozha | this error poping out , eventhough by using real code which is inside /usr/share/app |
| 05:49.56 | chozha | one more help needed jmcnaught , suddenly my laptop turning off without warning but after restarting it shows charge 27% ? |
| 05:50.51 | chozha | anyay to fi the issue. i dont want to off lap so abruptly |
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| 05:51.12 | chozha | *anyway to fix the issue. i dont want to off lap so abruptly ? |
| 05:51.34 | chozha | to tune battery with debian jessie > |
| 05:51.36 | jmcnaught | chozha: what does the error say? you didn't specify so i assumed you are using gnome on jessie/stable. do you have policy kit? if not an alternative is gksu |
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| 05:52.34 | chozha | jmcnaught, "There was an error launching the application." --> dis was de error on opening desktop file from .local |
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| 05:53.31 | chozha | jmcnaught, in terminal sudo .local/share/applications/vmware-workstation.desktop |
| 05:53.31 | chozha | sudo: .local/share/applications/vmware-workstation.desktop: command not found |
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| 05:54.47 | jmcnaught | chozha: best not to use sudo for GUI applications, use policykit or gksu. also .desktop files are not executable like that, they're just info files for desktop environments like Gnome to built their menus from |
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| 05:55.34 | chozha | okay jmcnaught , leme explore with policykit and gksu |
| 05:56.19 | jmcnaught | chozha: for your battery issue, it would be best to check the logs to see what happened right before it turned off. did it shutdown, or suspend, or hibernate? |
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| 05:56.57 | chozha | jmcnaught, it shutdown like there is nocharge in the battery |
| 05:57.32 | jmcnaught | chozha: if you're using systemd, you should enable persistent logging in journald so you can see journals from previous boots then. it says how in /usr/share/doc/systemd/README.Debian |
| 05:57.35 | chozha | so i put on charge and then rebooted , but charge level showing 27% |
| 05:58.13 | chozha | okay jmcnaught \ |
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| 05:58.25 | jmcnaught | chozha: in your journal right before it shuts down there will be a message from something saying it needs to shutdown. once you know what's doing it, you'll know where to look |
| 05:58.45 | chozha | jmcnaught, !! Thaanks man\ |
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| 05:59.15 | jmcnaught | chozha: you're welcome, let the channel know if you get stuck on something |
| 05:59.23 | chozha | hmm |
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| 06:02.16 | jmcnaught | chozha: enabling persistent logging in journald is probably the first priority, so you can review the logs next from the previous boot next time it happens. by default in jessie journald logs to tmpfs, so it only has journal for the current boot. |
| 06:02.54 | chozha | To test systemd, add: init=/bin/systemd to the kernel command line and then rebooting, |
| 06:03.06 | chozha | how to do this jmcnaught ?? |
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| 06:03.16 | chozha | what is kernel cmd line ? |
| 06:03.40 | jmcnaught | chozha: you probably don't need to do that part, do you see the section "Enable persistent logging in journald"? |
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| 06:03.59 | chozha | yes i have seen dat jmc |
| 06:04.27 | the_caretaker | good morning |
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| 06:04.42 | the_caretaker | short question: |
| 06:05.01 | the_caretaker | checking for the location of zlib... configure: error: memcache support requires ZLIB. Use --with-zlib-dir=<DIR> to specify prefix where ZLIB include and library are located |
| 06:05.01 | the_caretaker | ERROR: `/tmp/memcache/configure --enable-memcache-session=yes' failed |
| 06:05.15 | jmcnaught | chozha: those two commands, "install ..." and "setfacl ...", run them as root. |
| 06:05.21 | chozha | done |
| 06:06.03 | chozha | gonna unplug the charger and gonna explore the cause of de problem \m/ |
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| 06:07.15 | Equa | the_caretaker: you have zlib1g installed? |
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| 06:07.52 | the_caretaker | yes |
| 06:08.45 | Equa | the_caretaker: what about zlib1g-dev? |
| 06:08.58 | jmcnaught | the_caretaker: you probably need the zlib1g-dev package (and -dev packages for the other libraries required to build this). |
| 06:09.25 | jmcnaught | the_caretaker: have you tried using the memcached package provided by Debian? |
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| 06:11.15 | the_caretaker | thx equa zliblg-dev:) |
| 06:11.20 | chozha | how to get the lease time of ip which is assigned to our host by router ? |
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| 06:11.53 | chozha | zliblg :o |
| 06:12.54 | chozha | zliblg-dev ? purpose of this package |
| 06:14.38 | jmcnaught | chozha: apt-cache show zliblg-dev |
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| 06:16.41 | chozha | jmcnaught, let me see, ? is libvirt same as vbox |
| 06:16.58 | chozha | just exploring about libvirt |
| 06:17.39 | jmcnaught | chozha: it does the same sort of stuff, and it doesn't need an extra kernel module that needs to be recompiled by dkms every time you update your kernel |
| 06:18.22 | jmcnaught | chozha: i like it, but some might find virtualbox easier to use |
| 06:18.58 | chozha | i meant to ask libvirt will fulfill the function which is done by vbox (vbox,vmware are virtualization sofftware likewise libvirt behaves ?) |
| 06:19.30 | chozha | okay jmcnaught .. |
| 06:20.26 | chozha | Unable to locate package zliblg-dev , shall i install this package ? is it useful jmcnaught |
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| 06:24.40 | chozha | virtualization management tool ? like vmware vclient |
| 06:24.45 | jmcnaught | chozha: it's zlib1g-dev not zliblg-dev, but if you don't need it then why install it? |
| 06:25.16 | chozha | :| okay jmcnaught |
| 06:25.40 | chozha | going to install libvirt |
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| 06:27.11 | jmcnaught | chozha: libvirt is an alternative to vmware or virtualbox, does the same stuff. checkout virt-manager if you want a GUI. the Debian wiki has a page about libvirt, there's also lots of documentation on the libvirt website |
| 06:27.29 | chozha | okay jmcnaught |
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| 06:27.43 | chozha | can yu give the debian viki page ? |
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| 06:28.23 | chozha | https://wiki.debian.org/KVM ? is this one |
| 06:29.18 | jmcnaught | chozha: yeah that page has a lot of info on it, there is also https://wiki.debian.org/libvirt |
| 06:30.02 | chozha | ok jmcnaught ? you r using kvm or zen ?? |
| 06:30.52 | chozha | noob |
| 06:30.56 | Chocolate_Chip | test |
| 06:31.04 | Chocolate_Chip | huh |
| 06:33.31 | jmcnaught | chozha: I use KVM, which is part of the Linux kernel. |
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| 06:33.43 | chozha | okay jmcnaught |
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| 06:39.09 | chozha | jmcnaught, ? which is good vnc server package. |
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| 06:40.51 | jmcnaught | chozha: i don't know. i hardly ever need to use one, and whenever i do i just use whatever is already installed |
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| 07:05.19 | chozha | ,,, |
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| 07:13.29 | crunge | m'f'n LDAP |
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| 07:16.20 | crunge | I have two wheezy VMs, both clients in cfengine that should be configured equivalently, but one properly maps NFS file users to LDAP properly, the other shows nobody:nogroup |
| 07:17.35 | crunge | logins via LDAP work properly and if I touch a file in /tmp (not NFS) it is properly owned by the LDAP user |
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| 07:40.47 | grep72 | I have a question about installing emacs24, anyone here able to field it? |
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| 07:49.17 | Amun_Ra | just ask specific question and perhaps someone will answer it |
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| 08:07.01 | chozha | how to run openvpn process in background |
| 08:07.44 | chozha | sudo openvpn --config /mnt/downloads/cli_tcp_995.ovpn & |
| 08:07.49 | TJ- | chozha: Configure the system service; start it |
| 08:08.13 | chozha | in terminal ? |
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| 08:08.29 | chozha | using terminal TJ- |
| 08:09.07 | chozha | sudo openvpn --config /mnt/downloads/cli_tcp_995.ovpn & , terminal doesnt return to user prompt |
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| 08:10.03 | chozha | done ;) |
| 08:10.09 | chozha | its working actually |
| 08:11.19 | TJ- | chozha: Right... and when you close the terminal, it will be killed. Configure the connection as a system service and the openvpn daemon will bring it up and keep it connected. |
| 08:11.54 | chozha | TJ-, are u kvm user ?? |
| 08:12.01 | chozha | okay TJ- |
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| 08:58.06 | veek | apt-file search /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so.0.13.0 does not list a pkg, how do i fix that? when i run fakeroot debian/rules binary i get dpkg-shlibdeps: error: no dependency information found for /usr/local/lib/libgpg-error.so.0 |
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| 09:05.29 | g00se | Not hugely sure about this, but maybe apt-cache showpkg libgpg-error-dev |
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| 09:08.06 | veek | g00se, well it prints some info |
| 09:08.27 | veek | g00se, what should i do with it |
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| 09:14.58 | Amun_Ra | veek: apt-file search libgpg-error.so |
| 09:17.55 | veek | Amun_Ra, yep did that .. anyway i fixed it by removing the symlink.. however there are some warnings dpkg-shlibdeps: warning: package could avoid a useless dependency if |
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| 09:18.26 | Amun_Ra | veek: you can ignore that warning |
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| 09:22.05 | veek | where would libfuse be in http://ftp.th.debian.org/debian/pool/main/libf/ |
| 09:22.16 | veek | libfuse-dev |
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| 09:28.33 | veek | Ooo someone uploaded ntfs-3g 2015 into jessie-backports - many thanks |
| 09:28.44 | Amun_Ra | veek: http://packages.debian.org or apt-get download ⦠|
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| 09:30.50 | veek | crud nope it's 2014 |
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| 09:41.31 | veek | http://ftp.th.debian.org/debian/pool/main/n/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g_2015.3.14AR.1-1.dsc <-- how is this in main but the binary pkg is not??? |
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| 10:00.09 | netush | i can't bt my debian. it worked fine until it hibernated once and never came back. when i try to boot i don't ariive to grub, but to a black screen. if i try recovery mod i get a black screen with a blinking cursor (but can't type). holding shift won't bring me to grub. i am now using a bootable usb to use the computer. what can i do? |
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| 10:01.57 | g00se | Get SystemRescueCD on a stick. That will allow you to boot other linuxes (easier than raw grub) |
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| 10:05.23 | t4nk555 | Hello, I installed a custom Kernel and discovered that when I boot with it I can't get a working wired or wireless internet connection. |
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| 10:05.40 | t4nk555 | What could be the underlying problem ? |
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| 10:06.25 | netush | thanks g00se, i will try that |
| 10:06.30 | Amun_Ra | t4nk555: that's not really a debian related problem |
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| 10:08.14 | Amun_Ra | t4nk555: I guess no wifi related modules built-in |
| 10:09.22 | t4nk555 | Well, wired con doesnt work either and that is strange |
| 10:10.08 | Amun_Ra | t4nk555: compare your config file with distro ones at /boot |
| 10:10.14 | Amun_Ra | in* |
| 10:10.15 | netush | t4nk555: try to write in terminal dhclient eth0 |
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| 10:10.46 | t4nk555 | thanks guys. I will try the proposed solutions |
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| 10:11.03 | Amun_Ra | I assume he had working os when on debian kernel |
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| 10:14.59 | veek | rU libselinux1:amd64 2.3-2~bpo70+1 what's rU |
| 10:15.08 | veek | and iU |
| 10:16.17 | veek | wrt dpkg |
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| 10:36.08 | DoctorD90 | in which pkg is "disk utility"'? to manage(format/partition) disks? |
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| 10:37.15 | DoctorD90 | i see it on kali(im honest). But im sure it is normally utility of debian, only, i dont know the name of package to get in . |
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| 10:38.32 | TheNumb | DoctorD90: gnome-disks? |
| 10:38.37 | TheNumb | or something along those lines |
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| 10:38.54 | TheNumb | DoctorD90: gnome-disk-utility |
| 10:39.16 | DoctorD90 | TheNumb: in menu it is named Disk Utility, and it is under "Applications" in menu |
| 10:39.23 | DoctorD90 | ok, great. many thx :) |
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| 10:39.47 | DoctorD90 | it is needed by a friend that on debian cant manage its own usb |
| 10:40.28 | er4z0r | what hardening framework/kernel-patches do you guys use? grsecurity? apparmor? selinux? |
| 10:40.50 | er4z0r | as I understand it, grsecurity is more or less of the table now, right? |
| 10:41.24 | TheNumb | er4z0r: grsec here |
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| 10:42.42 | er4z0r | TheNumb: using the deiban packages? |
| 10:43.47 | er4z0r | TheNumb: https://twitter.com/grsecurity/status/639941068851675136 |
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| 10:48.46 | Amun_Ra | selinux is the default mac on debian |
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| 10:49.29 | er4z0r | !selinux |
| 10:49.30 | dpkg | Security Enhanced Linux (SELinux) is NSA's port of the FLASK Security Architecture to Linux. Also it can make your system unbootable if you uninstall it. Unofficial FAQ: http://www.crypt.gen.nz/selinux/faq.html . http://wiki.debian.org/SELinux http://selinuxproject.org/ #selinux on irc.freenode.net. See also <apparmor>, <tomoyo>. |
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| 10:49.57 | TheNumb | er4z0r: nah, I patch & build the kernel myself |
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| 10:51.06 | er4z0r | TheNumb: k. So do you use the testing branch of grsec now? |
| 10:51.48 | er4z0r | TheNumb: Not sure I understand the fallout from their recent decision to provide stable only to sponsors |
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| 10:53.22 | er4z0r | Amun_Ra: great, so the most complicated of all choices is the default ;-) |
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| 10:53.57 | Amun_Ra | er4z0r: I mean it's not on by default, don't get me wrong (tho I use it on my servers) |
| 10:54.21 | er4z0r | Amun_Ra: you mean best supported out of the box? |
| 10:54.27 | Amun_Ra | er4z0r: yes |
| 10:55.00 | tzafrir | Where do I report a broken mirror? I tried using httpredir. Got the following error: |
| 10:55.00 | er4z0r | okay. I am looking into service isolation right now |
| 10:55.03 | tzafrir | E: Failed to fetch http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/pool/main/w/wireless-tools/libiw30_30~pre9-8_armhf.deb  403  Forbidden [IP: 202.4.96.69 80] |
| 10:56.05 | tzafrir | Apart from that, for Israel I would expect to get European mirrors, as all cables from Israel go to Europe (mostly to Greece / Italy) |
| 10:56.09 | er4z0r | Amun_Ra: thought of using LXC to build 'jails' for services plus something to additionally harden the kernel (to avoid a compromise of one container to spill to the others) |
| 10:57.02 | Amun_Ra | er4z0r: I have lxc on my list of things to play with |
| 10:57.53 | er4z0r | Amun_Ra: are those two concepts complimentary or mutually exclusive? |
| 10:58.51 | Amun_Ra | er4z0r: they are not exclusive |
| 10:59.02 | er4z0r | good |
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| 11:06.54 | er4z0r | TheNumb: you still here? |
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| 11:08.03 | er4z0r | Amun_Ra: "12:48:20 Amun_Ra | selinux is the default mac on debian" <- Where does that info come from? |
| 11:08.33 | Amun_Ra | er4z0r: /dev/head |
| 11:08.44 | er4z0r | Amun_Ra: personal experience? or is there actually a page recommending it? |
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| 11:08.52 | Amun_Ra | er4z0r: it's my personal exp |
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| 11:09.23 | Amun_Ra | er4z0r: btw if you are looking for somethins less capable as lxc but simpler - check out debootstrap |
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| 11:10.03 | er4z0r | Amun_Ra: will put it on my list, thx |
| 11:10.22 | TheNumb | er4z0r: hmm? |
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| 11:10.51 | TheNumb | Amun_Ra: there's no MAC in debian by default. |
| 11:11.11 | Amun_Ra | TheNumb: that's what I was saying |
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| 11:15.50 | Amun_Ra | I had somethinf else on my mind and I choose wrong words |
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| 11:24.23 | er4z0r | TheNumb: 12:50:40 er4z0r | TheNumb: k. So do you use the testing branch of grsec now? |
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| 11:27.25 | TheNumb | er4z0r: I do. |
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| 11:28.00 | Serathrax | What could be the reason for apt-get update not working while dns is resolving. sources are the same used on the xen dom0 (on which apt-get works fine) |
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| 11:29.57 | markybob | Serathrax, it's resolving so you're getting 404 or what? |
| 11:30.18 | Serathrax | Just stays stuck at 0% |
| 11:30.23 | Serathrax | when connecting |
| 11:30.40 | markybob | Serathrax, which server? |
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| 11:31.26 | Serathrax | deb http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main contrib non-free |
| 11:31.26 | Serathrax | deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian jessie main contrib non-free |
| 11:31.27 | er4z0r | TheNumb: k. thanks |
| 11:32.05 | markybob | Serathrax, change to deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ |
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| 11:34.17 | markybob | Serathrax, worked? |
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| 11:35.43 | Serathrax | Didnt work unfortunately |
| 11:35.52 | markybob | Serathrax, pastebin the file |
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| 11:37.21 | Serathrax | http://pastebin.com/bGVJYBnZ |
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| 11:38.50 | markybob | Serathrax, that looks good. still same problem, hanging at 0%? |
| 11:39.02 | Serathrax | Yeah, unfortunately. |
| 11:39.35 | Serathrax | I'm starting to think it's a firewalling issue. :/ |
| 11:39.36 | markybob | Serathrax, df -h for giggles. anything at 100%? |
| 11:39.47 | Serathrax | nope :P |
| 11:40.28 | Serathrax | apt-get only required http & dns outgoing correct? |
| 11:40.34 | Serathrax | *requires |
| 11:41.17 | markybob | yeah, your setup seems fine. i don't really know what else to suggest |
| 11:41.43 | Serathrax | Alright, ill have a look at the firewall. Thanks a lot. |
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| 11:48.24 | head8debian | What kernel am i running? 4.1.0 or 4.1.3? http://postimg.org/image/iflp34byp/ |
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| 11:49.02 | markybob | head8debian, uname -r |
| 11:49.23 | head8debian | 4.1.0 |
| 11:49.28 | markybob | head8debian, oh, i see. you're on 4.1.3 |
| 11:49.31 | head8debian | Then what does -a do? |
| 11:49.44 | head8debian | Oh. |
| 11:49.58 | head8debian | -a is all. |
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| 11:50.15 | head8debian | -v gives me 4.1.3 |
| 11:50.17 | head8debian | :D |
| 11:50.45 | oskurot | version != release |
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| 12:41.09 | NoirLess | its partially not for this channel, but, cuz offtopic dead... is there any cool sound player in repo? Cuz i needs list of artists/albums/genres. Banshee sux,rhytmbox has problems with asian symbols and search in sub-folders |
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| 12:42.39 | BuzzardBuzz | have you tried vlc for sound? |
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| 12:43.02 | BuzzardBuzz | it also supports video |
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| 12:43.52 | bbaqar | Hey guys I have a deb package that creates a lxc but I need a way to make apparmor aware of this lxc. Currently I am just disabling the apprmor profile for libvirt. |
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| 12:46.44 | chuck_ | Hi, I just install debian cinnamon version. Where can I ask questions about this WM? |
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| 12:52.42 | NoirLess | @BuzzardBuzz, i tried vlc for sound, but, as i said, i need player with sort by genre/albums/artists |
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| 12:54.48 | NoirLess | and i also have problem. After some time being in idle, my sound starts to make noise, when im plays smthing. If im mute it and starts again, problem fixes. Any ideas, why thats may happens? |
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| 12:58.49 | BuzzardBuzz | NoirLess: has the issue always been happening with your install or did it develope after a time |
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| 13:06.02 | BuzzardBuzz | NoirLess: additional media players to try: Kaffeine; Miro; Boxee |
| 13:06.20 | uzumaki_naruto | the kali linux cannot open vlc why |
| 13:07.03 | er4z0r | uzumaki_naruto: have you tried asking in #kali-linux ? |
| 13:07.17 | BuzzardBuzz | debian runs vlc pretty good lately, kali has alot of missing stuff |
| 13:07.19 | uzumaki_naruto | no i haven't |
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| 13:07.50 | skumar | hi |
| 13:08.26 | uzumaki_naruto | BuzzardBuz: so how will i open it |
| 13:08.38 | BuzzardBuzz | you install debian first |
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| 13:09.01 | er4z0r | or ask in the kali channel |
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| 13:09.27 | BuzzardBuzz | i would prefer to instal debian first myself |
| 13:09.33 | uzumaki_naruto | er4z0r: which kali channel |
| 13:09.52 | er4z0r | #kali-linux |
| 13:10.03 | uzumaki_naruto | BuzzardBuzz: so there is no othere way |
| 13:10.30 | BuzzardBuzz | there is always another way, i was just telling you my preference |
| 13:10.40 | er4z0r | uzumaki_naruto: pretty sure there is, but you are asking in the wrong place |
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| 13:41.06 | lampone | hi, i have a trouble on my raspberry pi b+... in epiphany browser i can't play videos on youtube... someone can help me please? |
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| 13:56.43 | Amun_Ra | lambdahands: I found something ad that subject http://www.raspians.com/Knowledgebase/how-to-watch-youtube-on-the-raspberry-pi/ |
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| 14:01.14 | rednovae | anyone have experience recovering data off a corrupted partition? |
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| 14:03.03 | DoctorD90 | rednovae: testdisk i know as good software |
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| 14:03.21 | chozha_ | ... |
| 14:03.23 | DoctorD90 | if partition is ext, try to rescue blocks |
| 14:03.31 | TJ- | rednovae: if the underlying device is giving i/O errors; ddrescue. testdisk/photorec for file-system/file recovery respectively. Also see the autopsy suite generally |
| 14:03.47 | asarch | What is the difference between vmlinuz-4.1.0-0.bpo.1-rt-amd64 and vmlinuz-4.1.0-0.bpo.1-amd64? |
| 14:03.54 | asarch | Why "rt"? |
| 14:03.59 | asarch | What does it stand for? |
| 14:04.05 | Oongea7i | realtime |
| 14:04.46 | asarch | Thank you Oongea7i |
| 14:04.52 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
| 14:05.04 | DoctorD90 | TJ-: thx..i have learnt a new stuff! |
| 14:07.02 | Oongea7i | asarch: suggest using the non-rt kernel generally |
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| 14:07.26 | asarch | Ok |
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| 14:08.03 | asarch | However, I must use it. That's the only one I can use with this PC (HP Pavillon x360) |
| 14:08.29 | rednovae | ok thanks |
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| 14:09.31 | Oongea7i | asarch: really? what indicates that that is the case? |
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| 14:15.07 | asarch | I cannot start X11 |
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| 14:40.57 | veek | is there any way to install ntfs-3g 2015 on jessie |
| 14:41.01 | veek | easy way |
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| 14:43.10 | BuzzardBuzz | use synaptic package manager? is that easy enough? |
| 14:44.04 | veek | BuzzardBuzz, unfortunately ntfs-3g 2015 is on sid |
| 14:44.19 | BuzzardBuzz | or do you need instuctions for how to use the package manager? |
| 14:44.33 | t400-abc_ | hello my dpkg is broken, cant delete a D which is in the proxy line, see here http://picpaste.de/pics/dpkg-problem-CxFFdC8s.1441463873.png |
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| 14:44.50 | t400-abc_ | any hint? |
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| 14:45.51 | t400-abc_ | is there dpkg --no-proxy? |
| 14:46.04 | veek | BuzzardBuzz, i know how to use apt-get -t, but the pkg is on sid and not availaibale on backports |
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| 14:46.31 | kamzaa123 | Not sure if correct channel. I am planning to by a mini x86 PC, I found a 133 MHz CPU board running debian. Do you guys thing 133 MHz is too slow for my usage. My usages are compiling C++ code, installing and running monogb webserver |
| 14:46.39 | kamzaa123 | buy* |
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| 14:47.58 | veek | kamzaa123, should be okay try #hardware (if you stick to cmdline) |
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| 14:48.11 | veek | and small hello.ccp programs |
| 14:48.15 | veek | cpp |
| 14:48.26 | kamzaa123 | #join hardware |
| 14:48.39 | SirLagz | veek: you're still trying to install ntfs-3g? |
| 14:49.05 | veek | SirLagz, i've given up :( but yeah.. darn thing didn't install |
| 14:49.07 | t400-abc_ | is there a channel for dpkg? |
| 14:49.27 | SirLagz | veek: building backports didn't work out? |
| 14:49.35 | veek | SirLagz, i tried that SimpleBackportCreation but that was a total screw up |
| 14:49.44 | veek | it almost corrupted apt |
| 14:49.53 | SirLagz | veek: heh |
| 14:49.58 | veek | when i did the dpkg -i dependency-pkg |
| 14:50.07 | SirLagz | veek: like themill said, depends on how good you are at futzing around |
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| 14:50.39 | veek | srsly, that's an underestimation!! you have to be a god in pkg management and debian porting |
| 14:50.45 | SirLagz | veek: haha |
| 14:50.53 | veek | anyway i'm reading some books on that |
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| 14:51.16 | veek | Debian System Concepts - Krafft |
| 14:51.29 | SirLagz | veek: if you're willing to risk installign Sid packages, that's also an option...but again, depends on how good you are at futzing around |
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| 14:52.16 | kamzaa123 | @veek, I know but I am trying really hard to find a board with those requirements : Arch x86, >1GH CPU, >2GB RAM, 2 RS485 ports, 1 RS232 port, small footprint. I can't seem to find this anywhere....Any idea? |
| 14:52.22 | veek | SirLagz, ah nope! unstable was fatal to me once before |
| 14:52.44 | SirLagz | veek: in that case, I wouldn't bother trying to install ntfs-3g |
| 14:52.49 | veek | Kamilion, try #hardware |
| 14:52.56 | SirLagz | kamzaa123: fit-pcs |
| 14:53.14 | veek | SirLagz, yeah i'll just stick to 2014 jessie and use fstab vs autofs |
| 14:53.25 | veek | and grumble and complain |
| 14:53.29 | SirLagz | heh |
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| 14:56.43 | BuzzardBuzz | so that desired package is broken in the unstable version, if i understand you correctly? |
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| 15:17.59 | chozha | hi i have one doubt ? the permission which is given to dir --> will also affects the file inside the dir ? |
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| 15:19.09 | somiaj | chozha: (provided you don't have set gid, or sticky bit, i.e. normal permisions). The main thing is the person has to have permissions to get inside the dir (exec bit) to be able to see any files inside the directory |
| 15:19.41 | somiaj | chozha: so you could have someone able to write to a file isnide a direcotry without being able to write to the directory provided they can 'see' inside the directory. |
| 15:20.32 | tree12345 | Hi I need a help. I just managed with problem for "Could not update ICEauthority" but Gnome ui is not loading after login. XLDE is working .. Please help me to fix this issue |
| 15:20.48 | somiaj | you could also ahve someone read a file inside a directory without being able to read the directory (that only allos him to see the files in the directory). If someone has the ability to execute a directory they can get inside and then when accessing the files the permissions depend on the file (not the directory)....see what i"m getting at? |
| 15:21.06 | mtn | tree12345, check permissions on iceauthority, probably owned by root |
| 15:22.16 | mtn | tree12345, if that is it, remember not to start apps as root |
| 15:22.18 | tree12345 | <mtn> no its with username. |
| 15:22.27 | chozha | somiaj: i am going to create a group dir for a project , in that dir all users have r+w access , with a constraint that the person who put the file inside dir alone delete dat file and others should have only read permission |
| 15:22.27 | chozha | help me to achieve this scenario ?? |
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| 15:22.52 | mtn | tree12345, what are the exact permissions? ls -la on that file |
| 15:23.04 | somiaj | chozha: put a sticky bit on the directory |
| 15:23.25 | tree12345 | rw----1 ceasif ceasif 3180 sep 5 .. |
| 15:23.39 | tree12345 | ceasif is username |
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| 15:23.48 | mtn | tree12345, delete it and try again |
| 15:23.57 | chozha | somiaj: okay dat much simple grt |
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| 15:23.59 | somiaj | chozha: and the any user in the group can write to the directory, no one can delete files they do not own, and after that users can only read/write to each others files if the permsisions on the file allow it. |
| 15:24.29 | tree12345 | I did that earlier <mtn> |
| 15:24.39 | mtn | tree12345, oh. sorry, don't know then |
| 15:24.48 | somiaj | chozha: just make sure you don't set a gid and keep the umaks in that directory 022 (because if others can write to a file, even though they can't delete it, they could 0 it out) |
| 15:26.05 | chozha | somiaj: if you dont mind can you tell de cmd , for such scenario ill follow de steps one by one |
| 15:26.32 | somiaj | chozha: read the man page for the sticky bit, but I belive, chmod 1775 (or 1770 if you don't awnt to let everyone have access) is it |
| 15:26.36 | chozha | form creating dir , group , adding user to group and permission |
| 15:26.50 | chozha | in PM |
| 15:27.40 | somiaj | don't want to talk in pm, keep it in #debian. Again I pointed you in the right directory, create the directory, chmod 1775 the directory, chown it, test it out with suing to various users |
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| 15:28.04 | chozha | okay somiaj |
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| 15:28.23 | chozha | Thanks somiaj |
| 15:28.25 | tree12345 | <mtn> is there any way to restore to a default ownership ?? |
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| 15:29.30 | mtn | tree12345, when deleted and recreated, should have default ownership. mine looks like yours does. |
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| 15:36.20 | albech | what would be best practise to connect a server in EC2 with our datacenter? openvpn? the server will pribarely serve as sql slave for our sql cluster and other minor services. we will probably expand and have more hosts in ec2 as we need them. |
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| 15:36.50 | albech | thinking about a bridged vpn |
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| 15:53.10 | RoyK | albech: postgres? |
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| 15:54.54 | albech | RoyK: mariadb |
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| 15:55.22 | RoyK | albech: well, if it supports TLS for that, just use TLS - should be sufficient |
| 15:55.50 | albech | RoyK: just see more options with a vpn solution |
| 15:56.28 | RoyK | then openvpn should work - just use good ciphers |
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| 15:59.11 | blah- | my current OS is windows, if i install debian..is it necessary to install also the drivers or no need? |
| 15:59.39 | somiaj | blah-: not really, but there is one small issue you may run accross. |
| 16:00.07 | blah- | what is that? |
| 16:00.34 | somiaj | blah-: the kernel comes with almost all drivers you will need. Some drivers (wifi cards are very common to have this) require additional non-free firmware to function fully and those are not installed by default (debian splits non-free away but gives you the choice to use it if wanted). So you may need the non-free firmware for your wifi |
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| 16:00.59 | somiaj | blah-: video cards also give you the choice between free and non-free drivers, with free being default. |
| 16:01.00 | monsterco | what parameter should go in the NIC interface file to tell it the vlan ID? |
| 16:01.34 | somiaj | monsterco: man interfaces has a small section on VLAN |
| 16:02.24 | somiaj | monsterco: but I"m not familar enough with them to know what you mean by vlan id. |
| 16:02.29 | blah- | somiaj: i'm using desktop |
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| 16:03.02 | monsterco | somiaj - so my router has a vlan network setup; i don't have a switch; i want to make sure my debian server picks up ip from vlan network and not from main router network |
| 16:03.42 | somiaj | monsterco: oh so this is something you need to send in your dhcp request to the router? |
| 16:03.53 | monsterco | yes i think |
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| 16:04.14 | monsterco | somiaj - is there any other way to pickup a vlan ip? |
| 16:04.31 | triogenes | so is https://packages.debian.org/testing/mpv installable within jessie using backports? |
| 16:04.52 | somiaj | blah-: some other devices may require or work better with non-free firmware, but unless we know about your hardware jsut giving you the main thing you may come across. But most hardware drivers (Taht is supported) is included int he kernel and there is little reason to need to install more |
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| 16:06.03 | somiaj | monsterco: you would pick it up just like any other ip, either set it statically or use dhcp. If using dhcp and you need to send your router flags to tell it to use a differnt range of ip's for this request, look at dhclient or your dhcp client. |
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| 16:12.05 | monsterco | somiaj - it doesn't work when i pick it like a regular dhcp ip |
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| 16:12.21 | monsterco | i guess the vlan id should be mentioned somewhere for it to send that to dhcp request |
| 16:13.20 | somiaj | it is your dhcp client that sends the request (dhclient by default), you can configure it to send the router additional info so the router assigns it the correct ip. |
| 16:13.42 | somiaj | I'm unsure what can be configured from the interfaces file, but dhclient.conf is what I usually see suggested using |
| 16:14.59 | blah- | somiaj: what do you mean by non-free firmware ? |
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| 16:17.59 | somiaj | blah-: debian follows the debian free software guidelines, and not all software meets this. non-free firmware is a binary filed provided by the manfuacture of the hardware that cannot be modified and is thus non-free. But many of the free drivers in the kernel will not function properly without having this nonfree firmware file available. |
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| 16:19.03 | somiaj | blah-: You sometimes have to be very paticular on hardware if you want to run a truely free system since manfuactors don't opensource everything about their hardware (i.e the firmware file). |
| 16:20.57 | blah- | sorry but where i can get this nonfree firmware? |
| 16:21.12 | blah- | is this a software that has need to be installed? |
| 16:21.24 | somiaj | blah-: debian provides a non-free repo, and once you enable it, you can install things from that repo as you want. |
| 16:21.44 | somiaj | blah-: I think in jessie it asks if you want to enable it during the install (previous versions you had to modify your sources.list to enable it). |
| 16:22.10 | somiaj | so yes after that, it is just a debian package like any other debian package. It is just put seperate from the free software to give you the choice. |
| 16:22.42 | blah- | ok somiaj |
| 16:22.46 | blah- | i will try it now |
| 16:22.56 | blah- | good luck to me. |
| 16:23.01 | blah- | byeee...and thanks |
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| 16:43.38 | blah- | the cd is not booting |
| 16:43.41 | blah- | i don't know why |
| 16:43.52 | Mquayle | is the cd bootable? |
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| 16:44.32 | blah- | yeah CD-R |
| 16:44.52 | blah- | i already set the First boot priority |
| 16:44.57 | blah- | CD ROOM |
| 16:45.08 | Mquayle | is your cdrom drive 1st priority in the boot / bios? |
| 16:45.36 | blah- | yeah |
| 16:45.39 | Mquayle | oh, do you have an ibm / lenovo by chance |
| 16:45.52 | blah- | first priority is CD room 2nd is Hardisk |
| 16:46.04 | blah- | but still not booting |
| 16:46.19 | Mquayle | is it accessing the cd drive durring boot? |
| 16:46.30 | Mquayle | to check for a bootable disc |
| 16:46.42 | blah- | how to know if the cd is bootable? |
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| 16:47.02 | Stummi | blah-, are you talking about a debian installer cd? If yes, which one did you download? |
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| 16:47.15 | Mquayle | and how did you burn it |
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| 16:48.30 | blah- | i select on CD/USB ISO images |
| 16:48.52 | blah- | then -> Download CD/DVD images with BitTorrent. |
| 16:49.06 | blah- | then amd64 |
| 16:49.17 | Mquayle | but did you burn the iso to disk or did you copy the iso file to a disc? |
| 16:49.24 | blah- | then -> debian-8.1.0-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent 2015-06-06 17:40 25K |
| 16:49.35 | blah- | i burn |
| 16:49.38 | blah- | i burn it. |
| 16:49.45 | blah- | on nero |
| 16:50.07 | Mquayle | hmm so durring boot are you seeing the light on the drive light up like its trying to boot off it? |
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| 16:50.27 | blah- | yeah the red light is blinking |
| 16:50.47 | Mquayle | sounds like you did everything correctly |
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| 16:51.12 | blah- | after that, still the windows 7 is show up. |
| 16:51.47 | blah- | not the Debian os from CD itself |
| 16:52.55 | Mquayle | if you have a usb stick I would give that a shot. I have bad luck with cd rom. |
| 16:53.19 | blah- | yah maybe it will work i guess |
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| 16:53.52 | blah- | thanks, i will try to find a solution for this. |
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| 16:58.15 | somiaj | blah-: are you using efi boot or legacy(mbr) boot? |
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| 16:58.52 | blah- | no idea about efi or legacy |
| 16:59.08 | blah- | i just restart the computer, hit "delete" |
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| 16:59.14 | ecbrown | somiaj: i'm going to wait in the queue, i have a white i386 coreduo macbook that won't boot... |
| 16:59.18 | blah- | change the first prior |
| 16:59.24 | blah- | to cd and restart again |
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| 16:59.29 | blah- | then press the space bar |
| 16:59.34 | blah- | to boot the CD |
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| 16:59.50 | Guest63244 | when to expect sysvinit as a default init system again? |
| 17:00.00 | professorkaos644 | I've been following https://wiki.debian.org/chroot, and using a post install script after building the chroot, here: https://github.com/ProfessorKaos64/SteamOS-Tools/blob/brewmaster/utilities/chroot-post-install.sh ... For some reason after sudo is installed, and even if I put corrections into it to own /usr/bin/sudo as root, it fails with "sudo: /usr/bin/sudo must be owned by uid 0 and have the setuid bit set " |
| 17:00.10 | somiaj | blah-: then probably legacy, in that case the os-proper package should see your windows install and give you a boot option in grub. |
| 17:00.31 | somiaj | ecbrown: I am not very good with macbook voodoo. Have you looked at the wiki and some of the tricks they suggest? |
| 17:00.42 | blah- | so.. how to fix this somiaj? |
| 17:00.47 | somiaj | ecbrown: I know on some it is just copying grub64.efi to BOOT.efi on the efi partition or not. |
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| 17:01.26 | ecbrown | somiaj: maybe that's what i have to do. i had done it a long time ago, but forgot the magic |
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| 17:01.34 | somiaj | blah-: did you burn the debian.iso.torrent file to the cd? |
| 17:01.50 | blah- | yeah |
| 17:01.55 | blah- | i burn it somiaj |
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| 17:02.24 | blah- | it is around 642mb |
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| 17:02.29 | somiaj | Guest63244: not for jessie or stretch. They are both supported, just use debootstrap or a minimial install and install sysvinit and remove systemd |
| 17:02.32 | somiaj | !remove systemd |
| 17:02.33 | dpkg | To use an init system other than systemd in jessie, install the systemd-shim package (for logind) and remove the systemd-sysv package: aptitude install systemd-shim sysvinit-core systemd-sysv-. To stick with sysvinit for wheezy->jessie upgrades, follow the pinning advice in the release notes: http://deb.li/30Kby - See also <upstart> and <openrc> |
| 17:02.35 | blah- | out of 800mb space of my CDR |
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| 17:03.34 | woo1aiVi | ecbrown, boot image needs to be copied to /EFI/BOOT/BOOTIA32.EFI in EFI system partition |
| 17:03.40 | somiaj | blah-: I'm confused, did you burn the .iso file or the .torrent file, just making sure you burnt the image. |
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| 17:04.10 | blah- | somiaj: yes, i burn it. |
| 17:04.14 | ecbrown | woo1aiVi: thanks, is this possible if I install with everything in / ? |
| 17:04.21 | somiaj | blah-: anyways I don't see why it is not booting. I personally use usb images, in that case from windows you need to get a copy of win32diskimager and you can put the .iso right on a usb drive. |
| 17:04.24 | blah- | i'm using nero |
| 17:04.28 | ecbrown | woo1aiVi: or do i have to set up a special partition? |
| 17:04.59 | ecbrown | i seem to remember making a 100mb special /boot (or may /efi?) its been a long time :-( |
| 17:05.13 | somiaj | blah-: I do not know why burning the image is not working. Provided you are buring the image (not copying the .iso to the cdrom) but I have to go, best of luck |
| 17:05.28 | blah- | ok somiaj |
| 17:05.31 | Guest63244 | somiaj, thanks, it seems i've missed this option when was installing jessie minimal |
| 17:05.38 | blah- | thank u. |
| 17:05.43 | blah- | tc |
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| 17:06.39 | ecbrown | woo1aiVi: actually i just found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/392719/32-bit-uefi-boot-support |
| 17:07.54 | woo1aiVi | ecbrown, EFI system partition must be FAT formatted which has a file size limitation of 4 GiB, so it is normally made a separate partition |
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| 17:08.39 | ecbrown | ahh ok, thanks for the tips. (i want to eventually make this sucker encrypted..... might have to actually do some manual configuration.) |
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| 17:10.23 | GPenguin | hello, is that likely to be a temporary problem: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.informatik.rwth-aachen.de/ftp/pub/Linux/debian/dists/jessie/main/i18n/Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch |
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| 17:20.27 | starryeyed1daygl | hi |
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| 17:21.14 | woo1aiVi | ecbrown, EFI system partition has special type code, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EFI_System_partition |
| 17:21.17 | starryeyed1daygl | if I'm using a vpn, will the main wifi hotspot provider or isp still see my url's? |
| 17:21.26 | starryeyed1daygl | !vpn |
| 17:21.26 | dpkg | A Virtual Private Network (VPN) is constructed by connecting computers together over the Internet and encrypting their communications. This provides the ability to access LAN resources from remote locations. Ask me about <openvpn>, <openswan>, <openssh> (see -w option), <vpnc>, <pptp>. |
| 17:22.54 | starryeyed1daygl | like if I vpn, then download a .torrent or access thepiratebay.se - is that visible to them? |
| 17:23.18 | woo1aiVi | starryeyed1daygl, depends if the traffic is going over the VPN. you may need to research DNS and IP routing. |
| 17:24.30 | starryeyed1daygl | okay |
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| 17:27.29 | woo1aiVi | starryeyed1daygl, another method would be to use a packet capture tool like wireshark and seeing what traffic is not flowing through the vpn |
| 17:27.30 | starryeyed1daygl | could you say any more on the matter anyone? |
| 17:27.52 | starryeyed1daygl | ok |
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| 17:28.15 | starryeyed1daygl | ty |
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| 17:30.29 | woo1aiVi | starryeyed1daygl, if you are considering deliberate copyright infringement, consider whether it is worth the fine or jail sentence applicable in your state |
| 17:30.59 | ctmjr | he's gone |
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| 17:32.28 | GPenguin | in previous ocasions the hash sum mismatch error went away after several hours |
| 17:32.51 | GPenguin | i am wondering what the deal is so that it occurs every few weeks |
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| 17:33.34 | Ormu | hey, how to change the default umask when logging in via SSH? |
| 17:34.07 | Ormu | using pam_umask only affects umask when logging directly into the system |
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| 17:34.34 | GPenguin | Ormu: when you use bash the create mask is in .bashrc |
| 17:34.59 | GPenguin | sorry, in ~/.bashrc |
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| 17:36.07 | Ormu | GPenguin: ok thanks, but where does it get the default umask (0022) when logging in via ssh? why doesn't it use the mask set by pam_umask (0027 in this case)? |
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| 17:38.41 | milk_base | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLNYhWpdSOo <--- #chan |
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| 17:40.40 | GPenguin | Ormu: i am not sure myself so all i can do at the moment is offer you this link: http://serverfault.com/questions/231717/how-to-get-full-control-of-umask-pam-permissions |
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| 17:42.05 | Ormu | GPenguin: thanks, though I actually found it... looks like /etc/profile can be used |
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| 17:45.34 | dimitry7 | Hi guys! Is there a way to revert a apt-get upgrade ? |
| 17:45.40 | jelly | dimitry7: no |
| 17:45.44 | dimitry7 | I didn't do any apt-get dist-upgrade, just apt-get upgrade |
| 17:45.51 | dimitry7 | what can I do? reinstall packages? |
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| 17:46.55 | dimitry7 | nothing? |
| 17:47.00 | jelly | dimitry7: you could: 1. restore the OS from latest backup or 2. isolate and selectively downgrade from snapshot.debian.org or purge and reinstall |
| 17:47.25 | dimitry7 | jelly, ok, how can I see which packages have been upgraded? |
| 17:47.27 | jelly | dimitry7: reinstalling will give you the same versions you have now, most likely |
| 17:47.45 | jelly | dimitry7: uh... that was in the apt/aptitude output |
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| 17:48.10 | jelly | dimitry7: but both of those keep logs under /var/log/ |
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| 17:48.21 | dimitry7 | jelly, ok let me see the logs |
| 17:48.34 | jelly | dimitry7: why do you want to do that? |
| 17:49.47 | dimitry7 | I have the output of Installing... |
| 17:49.53 | dimitry7 | I will only reinstall those packages |
| 17:50.08 | dimitry7 | I have backups of the configuratoin |
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| 17:50.30 | dimitry7 | jelly, because slony is not in wheezy |
| 17:50.39 | jelly | why do you think reinstalling will make any difference? |
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| 17:52.26 | jelly | ,v slony |
| 17:52.27 | judd | No package named 'slony' was found in amd64. |
| 17:52.39 | dimitry7 | jelly, if I delete the new version installed, I can get the older one doing atp-get install |
| 17:53.00 | jelly | dimitry7: if your package does not come from debian, all bets are off |
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| 17:53.08 | dimitry7 | Actually I did control+x before package replacement |
| 17:53.24 | dimitry7 | control +z |
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| 17:56.32 | dimitry7 | jelly, this is the output: https://paste.debian.net/ |
| 17:56.40 | dimitry7 | jelly, https://paste.debian.net/310511/ |
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| 17:57.28 | dimitry7 | I didn't let it finish |
| 17:57.30 | mintux | E: Unable to locate package ecryptfs-utils |
| 17:57.49 | mintux | Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 (2015-08-04) i686 GNU/Linux |
| 17:58.00 | dimitry7 | then I did dpkg --reconfigure -a |
| 17:58.19 | mintux | but its exists https://packages.debian.org/jessie/ecryptfs-utils |
| 17:58.36 | mintux | what should i put for repository ? |
| 17:58.49 | jelly | !basic apt troubleshooting |
| 17:58.50 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 17:59.01 | jelly | mintux: ^^ please follow the instructions |
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| 18:01.44 | Guest63244 | !help |
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| 18:07.13 | sweb | what's the max ulimit for debian ? |
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| 18:08.00 | jelly | sweb: that questions is not complete, which limit are you asking about? |
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| 18:08.50 | sweb | jelly: opened files ... i need to have websocket server on debian ... |
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| 18:09.45 | jelly | sweb: cat /proc/sys/fs/file-max (and it can be increased further) |
| 18:10.52 | sweb | jelly: can i change it ? |
| 18:11.17 | sweb | to more number for example 2M |
| 18:11.30 | jelly | sweb: root can change it, yes. use sysctl.conf for permanent settings |
| 18:11.36 | sweb | socket is not accually file and using I/O it's using cpu and memory |
| 18:12.06 | wallbroken | do you know some torrent client that is able to tell me resolution, audio and video codec while downloading? utorrent does this |
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| 18:12.46 | jelly | sweb: your "opened files" nofile limit isn't talking about files either, it's about total file descriptors used by a process |
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| 18:13.32 | sweb | jelly: yeah you right |
| 18:14.02 | jelly | sweb: if you read man 3 getrlimit or man 2 getrlimit, it talks about file descriptors for RLIMIT_NOFILE |
| 18:14.05 | Ormu | what should i put to the "kernel" value if i want to create udev rule like this, but for USB port? KERNEL=="ttyS0", GROUP="nut" |
| 18:14.11 | dimitry7 | jelly, if I leave the new version of adduser, will be problems with postgres? |
| 18:14.23 | dimitry7 | I cannot reinstall it |
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| 18:14.28 | Ormu | "ttyS0" refers to a serial port, but how to refer to USB port? |
| 18:14.56 | jelly | dimitry7: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy adduser" and "apt-cache policy" |
| 18:15.07 | dimitry7 | jelly, ok hold on a sec |
| 18:16.04 | dimitry7 | jelly, ok is this: https://paste.debian.net/310514/ |
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| 18:16.16 | sweb | jelly: https://rtcamp.com/tutorials/linux/increase-open-files-limit/ is this i'm looking for |
| 18:16.34 | jelly | dimitry7: that's not wheezy |
| 18:17.11 | jelly | ,v adduser |
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| 18:17.12 | judd | Package: adduser on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.112+nmu2; stretch: 3.113+nmu3; jessie: 3.113+nmu3; sid: 3.113+nmu3; wheezy: 3.113+nmu3 |
| 18:17.15 | dimitry7 | nop, but some packages are in newer versions |
| 18:17.23 | eiz5iaSh | Ormu, udevadm info |
| 18:17.49 | dimitry7 | I have : ii adduser 3.113+nmu3 add and remove users and groups |
| 18:17.51 | jelly | dimitry7: did you add a repo with some newer release to your squeeze machine, then removed it later? |
| 18:18.20 | dimitry7 | jelly, yes wheezy repo, then I put squeeze repos back |
| 18:18.29 | jelly | dimitry7: that was a really dumb thing to do |
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| 18:18.46 | dimitry7 | dam it, what can we do? |
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| 18:19.44 | jelly | dimitry7: the safest thing is restore the OS from a backup :-) Next is upgrade the OS fully to wheezy if possible. |
| 18:20.16 | NoirLess | is there any ways to change image on login screen? |
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| 18:20.53 | NoirLess | or im asking in wrong place? |
| 18:21.13 | dimitry7 | jelly, will reinstall :-( |
| 18:21.22 | jelly | dimitry7: you could try to apt-get install adduser=3.113+nmu2, but the installation scripts are not written to handle a downgrade in any sensible way |
| 18:21.26 | dimitry7 | jelly, I have a backup of the OS |
| 18:21.33 | dimitry7 | how can I restore? |
| 18:21.42 | dimitry7 | I mean, I have a abckup of / |
| 18:21.56 | dimitry7 | I did rsync / /media/disk |
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| 18:22.25 | jelly | dimitry7: ... so the downgrade might work, or might not |
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| 18:22.47 | dimitry7 | jelly, ok but from this backup, how can I restore? |
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| 18:22.58 | Tymczasowy | witam wszystkich:) |
| 18:23.18 | Tymczasowy | mógÅbym prosiÄ o pomoc....:) |
| 18:23.48 | jelly | dimitry7: if you have a working, valid file-based clone, I guess you can boot a live/rescue image, rsync --delete -x [... other options] /where/ever/is/backup/tree/ /where/ever/is/root/mounted/ |
| 18:23.54 | Tymczasowy | Mam debiana 7.9 chciaÅbym go zaktualizowac do 8.1 wie ktoÅ jak to zrobiÄ? |
| 18:23.58 | jelly | !pl |
| 18:23.58 | dpkg | Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>. |
| 18:25.24 | dimitry7 | jelly, okay |
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| 18:25.30 | Tymczasowy | How to update 7.9 to 8.1? |
| 18:25.39 | jelly | dimitry7: or reformat that filesystem and rsync, whatever seems cleaner |
| 18:26.04 | jelly | dimitry7: if you do the latter you may have to fix the fstab (UUIDs), the initramfs, maybe the boot loader |
| 18:26.14 | jelly | !wheezy->jessie |
| 18:26.22 | jelly | dpkg, wheezy->jessie |
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| 18:26.25 | dimitry7 | jelly, okay, all right. |
| 18:26.31 | Tymczasowy | yes |
| 18:26.35 | dimitry7 | jelly, thank you Jelly! |
| 18:26.47 | jelly | dpkg, wheezy->jessie |
| 18:26.47 | dpkg | Read (at least) the upgrading chapter of the <release notes> http://deb.li/ldcj . In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "wheezy" to "jessie". apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade. 3rd party repos like <dmo> are known to cause problems with the upgrade. See also <jessie sysvinit>. |
| 18:27.04 | Tymczasowy | Thanks;) |
| 18:27.22 | jelly | Tymczasowy: ^^ that's the general idea. PLEASE read that part of the release notes before running commands... |
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| 18:27.40 | Tymczasowy | OK... thanks:) Bye |
| 18:27.59 | jelly | Tymczasowy: it's a 2-3 hour procedure, and maybe 1-2 hours to read the ... eh |
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| 18:28.11 | jelly | ¯\_(ã)_/¯ |
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| 18:43.16 | Carlito__ | hi all, I am trying to setup debian jessie box to sit between my router and xbox (router -> jessie box -> xbox). I am using these iptables rules: https://gist.github.com/CarlitoNueno/3cfbc353c938ce32ecc6 but I am getting strict nat. Am I doing the rules correctly? |
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| 18:44.52 | markybob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:45.34 | Carlito__ | markybob: yep. changed that in /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 18:46.09 | Carlito__ | markybob: when I connect the xbox direclty to router, NAT = open |
| 18:46.17 | markybob | Carlito__, this is how i usually do it. some differences. https://dpaste.de/JxjA |
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| 18:46.54 | Carlito__ | markybob: let me try it. |
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| 18:51.46 | e14124 | I'm trying to run emby on debian jessie... http://pastebin.com/pNy24hXA after running http://pastebin.com/pNy24hXA (Directions I followed for Debian Jessie: http://emby.media/downloads/linux-server/ ) |
| 18:52.00 | e14124 | err after running sudo apt-get install mono-runtime mediainfo libsqlite3-dev imagemagick-6.q8 libmagickwand-6.q8-2 libmagickcore-6.q8-2 |
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| 18:58.37 | Ormu | ok so i shut down the computer and NUT turned off the UPS too (crashing another computer) - where is such a feature configured? |
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| 19:14.57 | Mtbaker | Hello there I have made a application that builds debian for armhf boards . I am now going to make a web interface for this. And add in things like install gnome and other DE and lamp ect . I was going to use tasksel but wanted to get some thoughts on this. Maybe there is other ways ? It must not use a ncurse whiptail dialog or anything like that were the end user has to select options it must be automated |
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| 19:16.02 | Mtbaker | Thanks for your time as I know that you are busy :) |
| 19:17.22 | jelly | Mtbaker: consider asking in #debian-arm, over on the irc.oftc.net network, there may be more interested people there |
| 19:17.53 | Mtbaker | Thanks jelly I am new to irc |
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| 19:19.14 | Mtbaker | Not sure that this webclient will let me join that network ? |
| 19:19.37 | Mtbaker | Oh wait am I on irc.otfc.net ? |
| 19:19.46 | markybob | Mtbaker, no, you're on freenode |
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| 19:19.57 | jelly | Mtbaker: you're on irc.freenode.net now |
| 19:20.07 | Mtbaker | Err /server irc.oftc.net ? |
| 19:20.38 | jelly | No idea if freenode web gui will let you do that |
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| 19:21.57 | Carlito__ | markybob: do you think port forwarding might help? |
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| 19:28.59 | jaggzes | how would I get a copy of all my binutils files, then reinstall, and compare the old to new? |
| 19:29.20 | jaggzes | (because it was installed prior to debsums so I can't test their md5's) |
| 19:29.49 | jaggzes | maybe I should just do a dpkg -L binutils | while read f; do ... |
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| 19:38.07 | jaggzes | why's apt-get install --reinstall binutils want to install binutils-dev? |
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| 19:44.18 | jelly | jaggzes: install or upgrade? |
| 19:44.56 | jaggzes | upgrade |
| 19:45.06 | jaggzes | actually I'd like to go back to my earlier version of binutils |
| 19:45.20 | jaggzes | now I need to figure out what version that was.. since now all my files are a bit different |
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| 19:46.14 | jelly | jaggzes: "apt-cache policy binutils" will tell you which versions are available. If there was a patch in the meantime the version you had before may be unavailable |
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| 19:46.36 | jelly | jaggzes: apt and dpkg have logs under /var/log. |
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| 19:47.17 | jaggzes | 2013-09-24 02:33:19 status installed binutils-dev:i386 2.22-8 |
| 19:47.47 | neldogz | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.08 | jaggzes | currently installed is now 2.22-8+deb7u2 |
| 19:48.21 | jaggzes | jelly, is that considered a patched version? |
| 19:48.47 | jaggzes | neldogz: ready to go? meaning.. working fine? |
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| 19:48.59 | neldogz | jaggzes, yes correct |
| 19:49.09 | jaggzes | hardware or software raid? |
| 19:49.12 | jelly | ,v binutils |
| 19:49.13 | judd | Package: binutils on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.20.1-16; squeeze-security-lts: 2.20.1-16+deb6u1; wheezy: 2.22-8; wheezy-security: 2.22-8+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.22-8+deb7u2; jessie: 2.25-5; sid: 2.25.1-1; stretch: 2.25.1-1 |
| 19:49.16 | neldogz | jaggzes, it's a software raid 1 |
| 19:49.29 | jaggzes | neldogz: linux software raid or motherboard-fakeraid? |
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| 19:49.36 | neldogz | linux software using mdadm |
| 19:49.48 | jelly | jaggzes: yes. to see the changes, zless /usr/share/doc/binutils/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 19:49.50 | jaggzes | judd, so.. that 2.22-8[plain] means it's available? |
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| 19:50.02 | neldogz | jaggzes, linux software raid using mdadm |
| 19:50.13 | jelly | judd is a bot |
| 19:50.25 | jaggzes | pardon me.. I knew that.. |
| 19:50.54 | jelly | jaggzes: does apt-cache policy binutils list it? |
| 19:50.59 | jelly | then yes |
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| 19:51.47 | jaggzes | neldogz, well.. just make sure what your raid device is and ensure that's what you're using and you should be fine.. I'm not sure about booting from the raid though, as I boot from ssd and use raid for a bunch of separately mounted folders |
| 19:52.00 | jaggzes | jelly, yessir :) |
| 19:52.31 | neldogz | jaggzes, actually i am not booting from raid. I am booting from an SSD and have two separate 1tb raid disks that i am using for data |
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| 19:52.56 | jaggzes | perfect! |
| 19:52.57 | neldogz | jaggzes, i was blown away when I noticed the array was there ready to work.. then i thought to myself.. it's never this easy.... |
| 19:53.07 | jaggzes | (as far as compatibility with my experience) |
| 19:53.24 | jaggzes | neldogz: linux has had a lot of years to get the raid recognition working :) it's quite pleasing |
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| 19:53.55 | neldogz | jaggzes, sure is, i love Linux! |
| 19:54.32 | jaggzes | jelly, no differences in the binaries.. :) yay! |
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| 19:54.55 | jaggzes | dpkg -L binutils | while read f; do if [ -f "$f" ]; then printf "$f\n"; install "$f" "/tmp/binutils"; fi; done |
| 19:54.55 | dpkg | ii binutils | while read f; do if [ -f "$f" ]; then printf "$f\n"; install "$f" "/tmp/binutils"; fi; done 2.8-13 jaggzes's private gamp collection |
| 19:55.11 | jaggzes | lol.. what |
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| 19:55.42 | jaggzes | that install command is missing the flag to create dirs.. so it put all the files in /tmp/binutils/ instead of in subdirs :/ |
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| 19:55.52 | markybob | you hitting all the bots today |
| 19:55.57 | jaggzes | heh |
| 19:56.48 | jelly | jaggzes: you could have just saved the md5sums instead of the files. |
| 19:57.07 | jaggzes | jelly, then I'd lose the actual file to investigate if it did differ.. considered that though |
| 19:57.34 | jelly | what would you realistically do if it differed? |
| 19:57.36 | jaggzes | just curious if this remote server's been corrupted.. |
| 19:57.58 | jaggzes | jelly, possibly determine what type of attack was done? |
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| 19:58.35 | jaggzes | it'd be replaced with something indicative of the rootkit used, etc. maybe. |
| 19:58.55 | jaggzes | then I could examine that type of attack to see if other things were affected that I hadn't found (things not in debsums) |
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| 20:00.49 | jelly | if you suspect the system's compromised, your cp or install command might be compromised as well |
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| 20:01.27 | jelly | /usr/bin/md5sum, too |
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| 20:10.31 | Furai | Weird issue here. I don't get sound when I connect my headphones. |
| 20:11.24 | Furai | It still plays on speakers. |
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| 20:12.33 | mtn | Furai, use pavucontrol to switch output devices |
| 20:13.45 | Furai | pavucontrol? |
| 20:13.50 | Furai | Do I need to install it? |
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| 20:15.42 | mtn | Furai, if it is not already installed, sure |
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| 20:54.43 | WormFood | What is the name of the program, that is used to install a deb from the command line, but will automatically download any dependencies it needs? I've used this program before, but I can't for the life of me remember the name right now. |
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| 20:56.11 | jmcnaught | WormFood: apt-get ? |
| 20:56.18 | WormFood | nope |
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| 20:56.27 | WormFood | I can remember that :P |
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| 20:57.57 | hexnewbie | WormFood: Typically, you can do dpkg -i, and then run apt-get/aptitude -f install. |
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| 20:58.50 | WormFood | There is a utility that handles everything for you. Just give it the name of the deb, and it will download anything else it needs. (of course, assuming it's in your repos) |
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| 20:59.16 | WormFood | I just can't remember the name of it right now. It's in debian. |
| 20:59.39 | hays | hrm. lightdm seems to be pretty much ignoring its configuration files... |
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| 20:59.59 | Qann | Ok, here's the thing... I've debian on my single board computer and I've attached my EXT4 formatted usb hard drive. All of a sudden I started having hdd related errors. So I ran fsck - y /dev/sda3 it completed. But, at every restart the system claims my hdd is corrupt thus fsck is needed. Is there a better way of running a disc repair on my disc? |
| 21:00.36 | allizom | WormFood: gdebi? |
| 21:00.41 | jr_ | overclockers!!! |
| 21:00.46 | WormFood | allizom, THANKS!!! That's it! |
| 21:00.50 | hexnewbie | Qann: If the drive is really faulty, replacing it with another drive might be your best course of action. |
| 21:01.00 | WormFood | I recognize the name. Great little utility. |
| 21:01.57 | Qann | hexnewbie, before formatting ext4 AND using a Windows based utility to copy my archive to the drive over windows I didn't have any hdd related errors. |
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| 21:03.06 | Qann | Maybe I'm using the wrong commands for fsck, is "fsck - y /dev/sda3" enough? Should I search for other software? |
| 21:03.34 | allizom | WormFood: not sure it is really what you mean, it's a GUI thing |
| 21:03.38 | hays | I'm doing https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#GTK.2B_greeter this from the wiki to define wallpaper for lightdm, and I'm getting no response from lightdm. Similarly, it is ignoring an xrandr command I put in lightdm.conf... Anyone have any ideas what might be going on? |
| 21:03.58 | WormFood | it runs from the command line. I've never used it from the gui before. |
| 21:04.11 | hays | (display-setup-script is the other option it seems to be ignoring) |
| 21:04.23 | WormFood | gdebi-gtk is the graphical version. |
| 21:04.38 | allizom | ah |
| 21:06.04 | hays | I do have this: Sep 05 16:57:14 church lightdm[283]: Failed to get D-Bus connection |
| 21:06.35 | allizom | seems that actually the CLI is gdebi-core and gdebi is the GUI |
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| 21:07.12 | RoyK | Qann: just don't run fsck on a mounted filsystem |
| 21:07.27 | RoyK | Qann: ro mounted is ok, rw mounted isn't too good |
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| 21:08.04 | Qann | RoyK, I dismounted it. |
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| 21:09.09 | WormFood | I can't remember the details right now, but in some specific instances, running fsck while the fs is mounted ro mode can cause problems. I forget what software had problems with that. |
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| 21:09.32 | Chocolate_Chip | Damn. A lot of upgrades for Debian Stable today |
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| 21:09.53 | Qann | Eight now it's running fsck -R -y /dev/sda3... Maybe before it ran while it was mounted. Can't be sure. |
| 21:10.15 | WormFood | fsch should complain if the fs is mounted in rw mode |
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| 21:10.20 | WormFood | fsck* |
| 21:10.25 | Qann | What I wonder is is fsck my only option? It takes ages ^^ |
| 21:10.33 | RichSPK | Hi! I want to install debian on an SSD in a late-2005 PowerMac G5. Is there any reason to choose the powerpc port vs the ppc64el port? |
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| 21:11.11 | Amun_Ra | once, late in night, I mistook tune2fs with mk2fs⦠|
| 21:11.34 | WormFood | RichSPK, I doubt there is any compelling reason for installing the 32-bit version of debian for your mac. |
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| 21:12.20 | RichSPK | Thanks very much, WormFood! I wasn't sure if powerpc included 64-bit support. |
| 21:12.36 | WormFood | your G5 should be 64-bit |
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| 21:13.02 | WormFood | it says 64 right in the name ppc64el |
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| 21:13.48 | WormFood | I'm pretty sure, the powerpc release is 32-bit only. Otherwise, why would there be a difference? The other one is 64 bit, so that leaves the base being 32 |
| 21:13.49 | RichSPK | Right. powerpc doesn't say NOT-64-bit, though. :) I'll install ppc64el. |
| 21:14.02 | WormFood | They infer it's 32-bit |
| 21:14.15 | RichSPK | Have a great day! |
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| 21:14.55 | WormFood | I mean, if you have 2 things, one labeled "Product X", and the other labeled "Product X - 64-bit", you wouldn't assume the first one is also 64-bit |
| 21:15.20 | Mackj | Guys, does anyone know what causes the following. I run a xen hypervisor and have a hvm pfsense installation. My dom0 runs over the same network card and has no issues, however, my domU's all have checksum errors on TCP. I have turned on checksumming on my eth0, xenbr0 and xenbr1 and in pfsense. Is there anywhere else I can turn this off? |
| 21:15.51 | WormFood | Mackj, you'll probably have a better response on #xen |
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| 21:16.30 | Mackj | Thank you, will check it out. |
| 21:17.11 | WormFood | what do you mean, that dom0 runs over the same network card? You make it sound like your dom0 is diskless. You mean they're all using the same nic? |
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| 21:17.51 | WormFood | what version of xen are you using? |
| 21:18.08 | Mackj | Yes they are. I am using xen 4.4 |
| 21:18.34 | WormFood | on jessie? |
| 21:18.49 | Mackj | correct |
| 21:19.09 | WormFood | how are you managing your domUs? You doing everything from the command line? |
| 21:19.22 | WormFood | I mean, managing them from within your dom0. |
| 21:19.32 | Mackj | Yes, everything from my dom0 command line |
| 21:19.46 | WormFood | doing everything manually, or using some utilities? |
| 21:19.53 | Mackj | Manually |
| 21:20.22 | WormFood | was it ever working for you? (your network, from your domUs) |
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| 21:21.17 | Mackj | It has, it stopped working out of nowhere. It's a test set up, so I decided to reinstall everything today, but the same thing happens. |
| 21:21.23 | Mackj | This is the setup -> http://linux.screenzone.eu/howto-xen-4-4-debian-hetzner/ |
| 21:21.38 | Mackj | and then I have a hvm guest with another public ip (given a spoof mac) |
| 21:21.41 | WormFood | My xen server only has one nic also. I've never had any issues with it. I typically create my config file with some utility, then tweak them by hand. |
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| 21:24.02 | Mackj | I'll look into it, if it's anything interesting ill send you how it was fixed :) |
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| 21:24.40 | WormFood | If you haven't changed anything, then I see no reason for it to quit working, other than a failure of some kind. |
| 21:25.06 | WormFood | Perhaps a problem with your nic? I know, dom0 works fine, but that doesn't rule out the possibility of a problem there (but I feel it's very unlikely) |
| 21:26.10 | Mackj | I'll contact the hosting company after some more research, to make sure |
| 21:26.46 | Mackj | Thanks WormFood :) |
| 21:26.47 | WormFood | you have a dedicated box? |
| 21:26.49 | Mackj | yeah |
| 21:26.52 | WormFood | niiice |
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| 21:57.23 | dimitry7 | ,v binutils |
| 21:57.24 | judd | Package: binutils on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.20.1-16; squeeze-security-lts: 2.20.1-16+deb6u1; wheezy: 2.22-8; wheezy-security: 2.22-8+deb7u2; wheezy-proposed-updates: 2.22-8+deb7u2; jessie: 2.25-5; sid: 2.25.1-1; stretch: 2.25.1-1 |
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| 22:04.57 | dimitry7 | jelly, surprisingly, I rebooted the Debian and it started OK |
| 22:05.12 | dimitry7 | jelly, web & DB services, plus asterisk, everything is fine :-O |
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| 22:07.35 | foreverska | Anyone here use Kodi in Sid? |
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| 22:08.16 | newbie | hi guys |
| 22:08.34 | newbie | I have a problem with Debian |
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| 22:09.00 | foreverska | We all do at some point. |
| 22:09.44 | debianvmnewbie | yes I know :) |
| 22:09.47 | foreverska | What's going on... |
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| 22:10.58 | redspl^GG | hi guys. |
| 22:11.02 | redspl^GG | i need help |
| 22:11.12 | debianvmnewbie | basically I have two VMs running Debian 7.7, one barebone and another with Nginx, mysql and php all configured and tweaked (by an expert programmer). I need to pass all the config files and installs (nginx, mysql, ...) to the barebone vm |
| 22:11.14 | foreverska | Don't we all |
| 22:11.21 | debianvmnewbie | but I can only access VMs through SSH |
| 22:11.39 | foreverska | SSHFS |
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| 22:11.46 | redspl^GG | i have very very slow data transfer on wifi(idk is it the same on ethernet-i could check it later) |
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| 22:11.56 | redspl^GG | max. 1,5mb/s |
| 22:12.00 | redspl^GG | on local network |
| 22:12.31 | markybob | debianvmnewbie, what's the issue? rsync? you have many options |
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| 22:12.54 | debianvmnewbie | basically I have to transfer one vm to another through ssh |
| 22:12.56 | redspl^GG | example: SSH file transfer server(over wifi) > router >Client |
| 22:13.01 | redspl^GG | everything on linux |
| 22:13.06 | debianvmnewbie | all config files and installations |
| 22:13.16 | redspl^GG | and approx 1mb/s,max 1,5mb/s |
| 22:13.29 | debianvmnewbie | the VMs are on Microsoft Azure |
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| 22:15.22 | ctmjr | redspl^GG: wifi will allways be slow transfering files |
| 22:15.43 | redspl^GG | ctmjr: why? |
| 22:15.49 | foreverska | Because wifi sucks |
| 22:15.52 | redspl^GG | -.- |
| 22:16.00 | ctmjr | what he said |
| 22:16.06 | foreverska | It's basically the worst |
| 22:16.31 | foreverska | Unless you set the wifi card ontop of the router while doing it and even then it's a bit of a crap shoot |
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| 22:18.03 | debianvmnewbie | any command or system to back up VMs? |
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| 22:19.00 | markybob | debianvmnewbie, generally cp foo.vmdk or something |
| 22:19.39 | debianvmnewbie | markybob how to generate that file? |
| 22:19.39 | markybob | debianvmnewbie, it's just a file |
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| 22:20.55 | foreverska | anyone know if Kodi for Debian is broken in Sid right now? |
| 22:21.50 | RoyK | !sid |
| 22:21.50 | dpkg | hmm... sid is the codename for <unstable>, named after the kid in Toy Story that breaks toys. The great thing about running sid is that, when it breaks you get to keep ALL the pieces!! |
| 22:22.36 | foreverska | *rolls eyes* It's generally very stable and might just be my system for all I know |
| 22:23.27 | markybob | foreverska, very stable? i can't even install sane in side |
| 22:23.38 | markybob | sid* |
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| 22:24.47 | foreverska | I don't know what that is but yes, it's generally stable. It's been a little fussy since the GCC switch but that's alright. |
| 22:25.48 | RoyK | foreverska: sid is always unstable, it's in its nature |
| 22:25.52 | ctmjr | foreverska: there is a sid channel on the oftc network #debian-next this channel is foe the stable release |
| 22:26.37 | jelly | dimitry7: things might work, but the stuff that got upgraded won't get any secuyrity patches any more |
| 22:27.14 | jelly | dpkg, tell foreverska about debian-next |
| 22:27.20 | foreverska | Buncha scardy server admins. I'll pop over to the sid channel then. |
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| 22:29.23 | dimitry7 | jelly, yes, that's true. I'm glad it's working. I'll migrate this server to Amazon EC2, so it won't be long time in production from now. |
| 22:29.31 | dimitry7 | jelly, thanks for all :-) |
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| 22:30.57 | markybob | foreverska, ad hominem will get you far in live |
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| 22:31.23 | dvs | markybob: says you! Oh... i know what you mean |
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| 22:31.56 | foreverska | lol I actually have nothing wrong with stable since the recent release. I started in sid years ago because Lenny and Wheezy had poor support for my builds. |
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| 22:38.51 | jelly | I got 112 new packages... did a point release happen for jessie? |
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| 22:39.03 | ctmjr | 8.2 |
| 22:39.24 | jelly | "yes" |
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| 22:39.39 | ctmjr | jelly: yes today |
| 22:39.48 | jr_ | overclockers!!! |
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| 23:09.53 | Phyks | Hi, I am getting an authentication error when trying to install python-dulwich on debian stable |
| 23:09.59 | Phyks | do you have the same thing? |
| 23:10.01 | Mohamed_DZ | how can I install brackets? |
| 23:10.27 | Mohamed_DZ | I downloaded it both .deb files, but when I opened them with GDebi "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libgcrypt11 (>= 1.4.5)" |
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| 23:12.57 | maazu | Phyks: i have it in Jessie/optional not installed |
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| 23:16.36 | Phyks | maazu: I have it in jessie/main repo and I try to install it, but get signatures errors and was wondering whether it was normal |
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| 23:20.19 | Equa | Phyks: no problem on my end. |
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| 23:20.34 | Equa | Phyks: http://pastebin.com/sNMEYxvr |
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| 23:21.17 | asterismo | hi |
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| 23:21.55 | lineman | hello |
| 23:21.57 | asterismo | is there Calligrs office suite available in jessie? Libreoffice takes forever to load/save any file to PDF containing more than 3 photos in it |
| 23:22.02 | asterismo | its practically unusable |
| 23:22.06 | asterismo | hi lineman |
| 23:22.16 | lineman | :) |
| 23:22.30 | lineman | asterismo sounds spanish |
| 23:22.33 | lineman | is it so? |
| 23:22.44 | Equa | asterismo: i see one in jessie for kde |
| 23:22.59 | asterismo | lineman: yeah |
| 23:23.07 | asterismo | Equa: ok will try |
| 23:23.31 | asterismo | i just did sudo apt-get update and it takes forever to read package list... very wierd |
| 23:23.43 | maazu | Phyks: did a apt-get dry-run on python-dulwich, runs ok here |
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| 23:24.07 | asterismo | maazu: apt-get dry-run? |
| 23:24.16 | maazu | apt-get -s install |
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| 23:28.04 | chozha | ... |
| 23:28.11 | rabbitear | ... |
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| 23:31.16 | asterismo | no |
| 23:31.25 | asterismo | it takes forever to read package list |
| 23:31.30 | asterismo | something is very wrong |
| 23:31.44 | Phyks | maazu: Equa: no problem with dry-run, but with install I have http://paste.fulltxt.net/eDlS |
| 23:32.56 | Equa | Phyks: i installed it with no problem. |
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| 23:33.46 | Equa | Phyks: do you have this problem with any other packages? |
| 23:36.26 | lineman | guys.. is there a way to atach a new volume to / so I can increase the overall size of the system storage? |
| 23:36.54 | internat | did you use lvm? |
| 23:37.06 | jelly | lineman: if you've formatted with LVM, yes |
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| 23:37.34 | lineman | im not sure if I used lvm, im trying to do it in a cloud instance I've got in google cloud |
| 23:37.50 | lineman | is there a way I can confirm that? |
| 23:38.09 | Equa | lineman: sudo blkid |
| 23:38.40 | lineman | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:38.43 | Equa | lineman: if you see /dev/mapper/lvmxxxx |
| 23:39.06 | lineman | nope :( |
| 23:39.52 | jelly | lineman: pastebin the output of "lsblk" |
| 23:40.06 | rabbitear | ... |
| 23:40.31 | jelly | rabbitear: do you have anything to add? What's the ellipsis for? |
| 23:41.02 | lineman | http://pastebin.com/Puy8ujvS |
| 23:42.31 | jelly | so your VM seems to not have lvm, there's one partition on first disk and it's directly used as root ( / ) filesystem |
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| 23:43.46 | jelly | lineman: if your cloud provider can resize, grow the first disk instead of adding another one, you might be able to resize the partition and filesystem after that |
| 23:44.06 | lineman | damn |
| 23:44.17 | lineman | it seems I can take a snapshop |
| 23:44.20 | lineman | snapshot |
| 23:44.27 | lineman | and create a new vm wiht more space |
| 23:44.29 | lineman | but its kinda messy |
| 23:44.53 | BuzzardBuzz | can you mount an additional drive? |
| 23:45.14 | Chocolate_Chip | Is there a debian repo address without the country code? |
| 23:45.32 | Equa | Chocolate_Chip: /msg dpkg sources.list |
| 23:45.39 | Chocolate_Chip | ok |
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| 23:46.41 | Equa | Chocolate_Chip: you can take a look here too https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 23:49.23 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: the contry code is just a redirector and the old standards. I suggest using the httpredir.debian.org redirector as it is a better redirector and helps balance the loads across close (by geoip) mirrors |
| 23:49.30 | somiaj | or just pick a mirror you like |
| 23:49.36 | Chocolate_Chip | ok |
| 23:49.45 | Chocolate_Chip | It's for a bash script, you see |
| 23:49.56 | Chocolate_Chip | So it will be used outside the US, most likely |
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| 23:52.22 | lineman | BuzzardBuzz: ye |
| 23:52.24 | lineman | yess |
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| 23:52.34 | lineman | I have added a new volume, sdb, and I can mount it |
| 23:52.39 | lineman | a friend told me to mount it at / |
| 23:52.43 | lineman | not sure how that goes |
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| 23:54.30 | somiaj | lineman: what is this volumn, and why would you want to mount it at root. And usually the data is on a partition so like sdb1 (insetad of the disk sdb) |
| 23:54.52 | lineman | the point is that my www folder is getting too big |
| 23:54.56 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: the geoip works for any location and should give a decent mirror (if you don't want to foce a specific mirror) |
| 23:54.58 | lineman | I cant split it among folders |
| 23:55.02 | somiaj | !http.debian.net |
| 23:55.03 | dpkg | To have <APT> automatically select a mirror close to you, use the Geo-IP redirector in your sources.list "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main". See http://httpredir.debian.org/ for more information. The redirector uses HTTP 302 redirects not DNS to serve content so is safe to use with Google DNS. See also <which httpredir.debian.org>. This service is identical to http.debian.net. |
| 23:55.03 | lineman | i need one big one |
| 23:56.01 | somiaj | lineman: you could just make a big partition and mount it at /var/www, you could also put the single partition at some partition (maybe just /data) and then use links to put /var/www and various stuff in it. Or are you wanting to put your whole os on this new volume? |
| 23:56.36 | lineman | no, I only need to increase the avaliable space in a specific folder |
| 23:56.44 | lineman | without changing too much configuraiton or paths |
| 23:57.27 | Chocolate_Chip | Uh... |
| 23:57.33 | Chocolate_Chip | It uses Google's DNS Service? |
| 23:58.13 | lineman | mm yes |
| 23:58.21 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: no it is 'safe to use' with google's dns, as it isn't a dns redirector |
| 23:58.31 | somiaj | lineman: do you use lvm? |
| 23:58.34 | Chocolate_Chip | ah. Ok |
| 23:58.39 | lineman | no |
| 23:58.41 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: it uses what ever dns the system is confiugred to use. |
| 23:58.42 | Chocolate_Chip | I didn't want to use Google's thing |
| 23:59.35 | somiaj | lineman: well you have various choices. But if you wanted to replace your currect root partition with a new one that can be a little bit of work. |
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