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| 00:00.16 | asarch | ,,kernel |
| 00:00.21 | lineman | damn |
| 00:00.23 | lineman | ok, thanks |
| 00:00.34 | lineman | ill pay my freelance |
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| 00:00.50 | lineman | I think its the smartest thing to do at this pint |
| 00:00.51 | lineman | point |
| 00:01.03 | asarch | ,kernel |
| 00:01.04 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-1-686-pae (4.1.3-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae (4.1.3-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3) |
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| 00:01.16 | Equa | lineman: i would move all the content in /var/www to the new volume and change my apache conf to point to the new location |
| 00:01.32 | asarch | How often are the kernels from jessie-backports updated? |
| 00:01.42 | lineman | I think I'll do that, Equa |
| 00:02.05 | lineman | thanks |
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| 00:02.10 | somiaj | lineman: well the easiset approach would be put a partition/file system on sdb1, and mount it somewhere. Then you can copy the data to it and last make a link to the data. |
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| 00:02.34 | lineman | yes, it looks like the best way |
| 00:02.36 | somiaj | or change apache.conf, it depends on if you want more than just /var/www on the partition. If all you want is that, just mount it at /var/www |
| 00:02.39 | lineman | I jus thope symlinks will work well |
| 00:02.43 | lineman | im using nginx |
| 00:02.53 | somiaj | lineman: same difference, jsut different config file (: |
| 00:03.06 | lineman | hope so..! it's been a pain in the ass so far |
| 00:03.07 | somiaj | asarch: usually sometime after the kernels make it into stretch. |
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| 00:03.11 | lineman | but yes, it should be |
| 00:03.15 | lineman | im gonna try |
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| 00:04.15 | somiaj | asarch: so 4.2 first has to be put into unstable, hang out there a while, drop to stretch and then a backport is made (not sure if they have a time limit it is in stretch first to make sure there are no major issues) |
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| 00:04.33 | asarch | Thank you somiaj |
| 00:04.38 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
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| 00:05.15 | CooloutAC | how can I open a new tab in xterm? |
| 00:05.33 | somiaj | CooloutAC: I don't think xterm has tab support, just open another xterm |
| 00:05.39 | CooloutAC | ok :( |
| 00:05.43 | CooloutAC | tks |
| 00:05.48 | somiaj | CooloutAC: Use screen or tmux and then you can use that for your tabs |
| 00:06.18 | somiaj | CooloutAC: or get a termial program that has tabs (note tabs should raelly be something you can configure with your WM, but many WMs don't manage windows in tabs and just let the app do it) |
| 00:07.01 | CooloutAC | ok tks for the tips |
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| 01:01.08 | xnrand | hi, when i change the permissions of /var/log to 0750, after every reboot they're back at 0755. how do i permanently set these permissions? |
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| 01:06.01 | x86iac_ | why do you want it at 750? |
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| 01:06.28 | somiaj | logs themselves have permisions, but not sure what could be doing that. could it be a logrotate init that is changing it back... |
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| 01:08.09 | jmcnaught | xnrand: if you set /var/log to 750 you will break logging for stuff that doesn't run as root |
| 01:08.59 | x86iac | he doesn't want his user's fun logged i guess |
| 01:09.34 | CooloutAC | jalea es jalea |
| 01:09.52 | xnrand | i don't want users to be able to read various logfiles, but it seems i will just have to care for the individual ones and edit the logrotate config, i think |
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| 01:10.48 | x86iac | do change the actual logs permissions and see if reboot changes the change |
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| 01:46.53 | boxatom | I am thinking of repacing windows 10 with debianâ¦. and then run windows in a VM inside debianâ¦. that should improve my computers security greatly right? |
| 01:47.20 | boxatom | I was planning doing the same with apple but I guess runing OSX on VM is bad |
| 01:48.49 | x86iac | why is osx on vm bad you say? |
| 01:49.24 | boxatom | well OSX is a bit bitchy⦠|
| 01:49.58 | x86iac | it should be okay |
| 01:50.32 | boxatom | i mean like I have an apple computerâ¦. installing linux on it and running OSX virtually⦠|
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| 01:51.00 | x86iac | a lisa? or machintosh? |
| 01:51.16 | boxatom | Mac book pro retina |
| 01:53.33 | boxatom | well yes, machintosh :D |
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| 02:05.36 | chozha | where is inittab file located in debian 8 |
| 02:05.59 | chozha | ?? |
| 02:06.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, there's no inittab in systemd |
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| 02:06.53 | chozha | :| so how to modify default runlevel Eduard_Munteanu ? |
| 02:06.59 | Eduard_Munteanu | Well, there's one for compatibility scripts, but that's all. |
| 02:07.47 | chozha | hmm okay Eduard_Munteanu |
| 02:07.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, systemctl set-default <target> |
| 02:08.10 | chozha | thanks Eduard_Munteanu .. |
| 02:08.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | e.g. systemctl set-default graphical |
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| 02:09.13 | chozha | oaky Eduard_Munteanu |
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| 02:10.58 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: how to recover root pwd in jessie ? |
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| 02:11.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, you can boot in emergency mode (add "emergency" to the kernel cmdline) and use passwd |
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| 02:12.06 | chozha | hmm okay Eduard_Munteanu |
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| 02:16.05 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: ?? how to enter boot in emergency mode |
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| 02:16.23 | chozha | i just got recovery mode aloe in grub menu |
| 02:16.30 | chozha | alone* |
| 02:16.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, press 'e' to edit the entry |
| 02:17.10 | chozha | den ? which section do i need to edit |
| 02:17.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, the "linux" line |
| 02:17.56 | chozha | hmm leme me check |
| 02:17.58 | chozha | brb |
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| 02:22.52 | VeggieMeat | so... upgrading this box from wheezy to jessie (that had previously been upgraded from squeeze to wheezy)... i have a python issue that is making it practically impossible to install packages... File "/usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/hashlib-20081119-py2.7-linux-x86_64.egg/hashlib.py", line 115, in <module> f() TypeError: 'frozenset' object is not callable... i can't run anything that depends on hashlib, which breaks pip, |
| 02:22.53 | VeggieMeat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:23.52 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: hi it just asking give root pwd for maintanence ? |
| 02:24.09 | themill | VeggieMeat: as soon as I see "local" in that path, that answers the question -- get rid of the python installation in /usr/local |
| 02:24.18 | themill | !local python |
| 02:24.18 | dpkg | An installation of python in /usr/local/bin/ is a great way of breaking a great many tools in Debian, which assume running "python" runs the Debian python with the installed python modules. Removing /usr/local/bin/python* should be enough to fix the problem; if you really need your own local version of system tools like python (and perl, and ...) make sure they are not on $PATH when you are performing upgrades. |
| 02:25.09 | chozha | brb |
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| 02:26.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, hm... in that case, you should attempt booting with init=/bin/bash instead |
| 02:27.30 | VeggieMeat | interesting... i wonder if one of the tools that i use did that at some point? i know i've never personally installed python without using apt... |
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| 02:30.33 | VeggieMeat | themill: thanks! that seems to have solved it |
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| 02:31.48 | themill | np |
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| 02:34.28 | chozha | attempt booting with init=/bin/bash instead --> how do do this Eduard_Munteanu |
| 02:34.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, same way as you did with "emergency" |
| 02:35.04 | Eduard_Munteanu | Just use "init=/bin/bash" instead. |
| 02:35.33 | chozha | oh i see i need to put "init=/bin/bash" instead of emergency ?? |
| 02:35.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, yes |
| 02:35.51 | chozha | hmm , leme check :3\ |
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| 02:40.26 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: i am able to login as root , when i put password |
| 02:40.45 | chozha | it shhowing error , not letting me to change pwd |
| 02:40.59 | chozha | howw to change pwd Eduard_Munteanu |
| 02:41.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, passwd is giving you an error? |
| 02:41.23 | chozha | "change password" or simply "password " ? |
| 02:41.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, the command is "passwd" |
| 02:41.59 | chozha | oh i dint tried passwd , after long time i returning to nix, forgotten most of de cmd |
| 02:42.05 | chozha | thanks Eduard_Munteanu |
| 02:42.47 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: recommend a download manager to download streaming videos ?? |
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| 02:43.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, no idea... perhaps youtube-dl? |
| 02:43.10 | chozha | need to watch one piece ;( |
| 02:43.16 | chozha | no anilinkz.tv |
| 02:43.39 | chozha | for youtube we can use addons ? |
| 02:43.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, try a browser addon for Firefox/Chrome, whatever is most popular |
| 02:44.24 | chozha | hmm , am firefox fan ... i will go with dat |
| 02:44.49 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: best pdf readr |
| 02:44.50 | chozha | ? |
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| 02:45.14 | chozha | in debian 8 gnome version has inbuilt pdf reader ? |
| 02:45.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, I personally use evince. |
| 02:45.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | It should. |
| 02:45.42 | chozha | oh leme check |
| 02:45.57 | chozha | i just used xpdf . not good |
| 02:46.15 | x86iac | libreoffice? |
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| 02:46.35 | chozha | x86iac: > is it has pdf support |
| 02:46.37 | chozha | ? |
| 02:46.52 | x86iac | sure does |
| 02:46.58 | chozha | ohh |
| 02:48.04 | chozha | Document Viewer ? x86iac |
| 02:48.10 | themill | x86iac: perhaps you could expand on that |
| 02:48.11 | chozha | yes it opened |
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| 02:48.34 | chozha | nice |
| 02:48.43 | x86iac | themill: ? |
| 02:48.57 | themill | precisely how does one use libreoffice to view a pdf? |
| 02:49.41 | ecbrown | i think libreoffice has write pdf support |
| 02:49.46 | themill | indeed |
| 02:49.54 | ecbrown | then use okular or evince to view |
| 02:50.03 | bieyeik2aX | okular! |
| 02:50.19 | x86iac | type soffice x.pdf |
| 02:50.43 | x86iac | i am looking at a pdf in libreoffice as we speak |
| 02:50.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | strings < x.pdf | less :P |
| 02:50.57 | themill | x86iac: that's really not a pdf viewer. |
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| 02:51.14 | x86iac | what? i and viewing a pdf ... that is a pdf viewer |
| 02:51.38 | themill | it's trying to edit the PDF and it throws away any formatting it can't work out or doesn't like |
| 02:51.51 | x86iac | so does xpdf |
| 02:52.14 | themill | no |
| 02:52.20 | x86iac | themill: tell you what ... don't use it |
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| 02:52.41 | themill | how about we not give bad advice? |
| 02:53.04 | x86iac | themill you a trouble maker? |
| 02:53.11 | x86iac | or just rediculous troll |
| 02:53.54 | themill | We've asked you a couple of times to try to remain on-topic and to ensure your answers were useful. |
| 02:54.01 | ecbrown | if i may interject: i think themill is saying "there are better pdf viewers out there" |
| 02:54.18 | themill | (that's not the most ridiculous answer you've given recently, but it's up there) |
| 02:54.42 | chozha | O.o |
| 02:54.48 | x86iac | themill HOW ABOUT YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP - you punk phoney? ;) |
| 02:55.06 | ctmjr | here it comes |
| 02:55.10 | x86iac | ecbrown: no he isn't he is being a channel notzi |
| 02:55.16 | x86iac | loser |
| 02:55.24 | hassoon | x86iac: dude 'sup |
| 02:55.25 | themill | x86iac: it's called simple QA for the benefit of our users, thanks |
| 02:55.30 | x86iac | hurrry up i have to go |
| 02:55.35 | themill | bye |
| 02:55.39 | x86iac | cya |
| 02:55.52 | x86iac | i have 6 minutes - |
| 02:56.00 | bieyeik2aX | I have a question: I accidentally delete /var/lib/apt/lists , is there a way to recover my lists? :D :D pls say yes :D |
| 02:56.10 | themill | bieyeik2aX: just run apt-get update again |
| 02:56.14 | x86iac | bieyeik2aX: use photorec |
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| 02:56.24 | bieyeik2aX | themill: it dosn't work |
| 02:56.38 | themill | bieyeik2aX: can you pastebin the command and the full output? |
| 02:56.40 | hassoon | bieyeik2aX: can you download them ? i mean another copy from the internet |
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| 02:56.52 | bieyeik2aX | yes themill, give me a sec |
| 02:57.02 | bieyeik2aX | hassoon: yes I can |
| 02:59.26 | bieyeik2aX | themill: http://pastie.org/private/f9u26m6hcyhvby1ca5etba |
| 02:59.55 | hassoon | is paste.debian.net not working for me only ? |
| 03:00.03 | themill | bieyeik2aX: so I very much doubt that ftp.debian.org is actually within your home network |
| 03:00.08 | bieyeik2aX | hassoon: isn't working for me neither |
| 03:00.08 | Equa | hassoon: it's down for me as well |
| 03:00.26 | themill | bieyeik2aX: oh, you have an apt-proxy of some sort there? |
| 03:00.39 | hassoon | i use pastebinit, but it returns only the paste.debian.net link literally, so i have to paste teh code manually in the web interface :/ |
| 03:00.41 | bieyeik2aX | Not now themill |
| 03:00.45 | hassoon | Equa: ah |
| 03:00.57 | themill | bieyeik2aX: your apt seems to think you do |
| 03:01.24 | bieyeik2aX | themill: I have disabled squid-deb-proxy, also delete it from /etc/apt/sources.list.d |
| 03:01.36 | bieyeik2aX | mmm |
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| 03:02.29 | themill | bieyeik2aX: is the configured in /etc/apt/apt.conf or apt.conf.d/* |
| 03:03.42 | bieyeik2aX | themill: my bad, I mean, I delete it from /etc/apt/apt.conf.d . It is not in /etc/apt/apt.conf. |
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| 03:04.57 | themill | bieyeik2aX: do you have the http_proxy variable set? |
| 03:05.07 | themill | (environment variable) |
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| 03:05.10 | bieyeik2aX | themill: :D, I haven't deleted from /etc/apt/apt.conf, now aptitude is working again :D, thank you |
| 03:05.26 | themill | very good |
| 03:05.26 | bieyeik2aX | <3 <3 <3 themill <3 <3 <3 |
| 03:05.32 | themill | :) |
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| 03:08.51 | bieyeik2aX | themill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqWRaAF6_WY . I was afraid of have to reinstall debian :-\ |
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| 03:29.25 | veek | what's the purpose of the Contents file under /dists |
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| 03:29.53 | veek | Also in the release |
| 03:29.53 | veek | directories are the Contents ï¬les, which map the ï¬les installed on the ï¬lesystem |
| 03:29.53 | veek | to the providing package. |
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| 03:41.30 | atarip123 | please guys. If I use dpkg-buildflags and rebuild some debian packages, how will be the updated management? I meant, will I receive updates through apt-get upgrade? |
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| 04:00.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | atarip123, apt-get upgrade will install updates from configured repositories. Normally, those are the Debian repos, so whatever you rebuild locally isn't there. |
| 04:00.47 | atarip123 | Eduard_Munteanu: thanks! can ai achieve a similar behavior with apt-build? |
| 04:02.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | atarip123, likely you're going to have to rebuild the updates as well |
| 04:04.00 | atarip123 | Eduard_Munteanu: but will apt-build update ; apt-build upgrade keep my system upgraded? If yes, I am ok in rebuilding... honestly, I would prefere it. |
| 04:04.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hm, I don't actually know about that. |
| 04:04.54 | atarip123 | thanks! I will try that. thanks for the help! |
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| 04:12.34 | asarch | How do you load extra kernel modules at boot time? |
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| 04:17.30 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: how to check wheter the service running or not in debian 8 ? |
| 04:17.49 | chozha | service apache2 satus , bash: service: command not found |
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| 04:18.08 | chozha | brb |
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| 04:19.05 | chozha | hello Eduard_Munteanu |
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| 04:19.10 | Equa | chozha: systemctl status service |
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| 04:19.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, hey. I think it's best to ask the channel, a lot of people can answer. |
| 04:19.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | Also, what Equa said. |
| 04:20.10 | chozha | :| ok Eduard_Munteanu |
| 04:20.15 | chozha | Equa: thanks |
| 04:20.18 | chozha | systemctl status motd |
| 04:20.18 | chozha | â motd.service |
| 04:20.18 | chozha | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:20.18 | chozha | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:20.32 | chozha | Masked ? how to mask a service :o |
| 04:20.36 | AlexLikeRock | http://paste.debian.net/ it DOWN !!! |
| 04:20.38 | AlexLikeRock | fix please |
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| 04:21.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | asarch, see /etc/modules-load.d |
| 04:21.46 | chozha | yes dead |
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| 04:22.19 | Eduard_Munteanu | chozha, systemd is a bit different, you might want to research it a bit and see differences |
| 04:26.31 | chozha | Okay Eduard_Munteanu |
| 04:26.44 | chozha | Eduard_Munteanu: any themes are you using ? |
| 04:27.01 | chozha | i want to make my desktop uniq and clean |
| 04:27.53 | chozha | and show off like a pro user desktop ? any help from your side Eduard_Munteanu Equa |
| 04:28.53 | chozha | helllo ? anybody there |
| 04:28.57 | Equa | chozha: just ask the chan for suggestion. have you tried them all yet? find the one you like then do customization later |
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| 04:29.20 | chozha | okay Equa |
| 04:29.37 | chozha | Any one good with conky ?? |
| 04:29.49 | chozha | customization ?? |
| 04:29.52 | chozha | ;( |
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| 04:30.47 | chozha | grr to time to learn about setuid , setgid and sticky bits |
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| 04:32.45 | Rasi | hi, i am creating a little bash script that utilizes column. which doesnt seem to work on jessie, as some user pointed out. what package includes column on debian? i downloaded til-linux_2.25.2-6_amd64.deb, but i cant seem to find it in there |
| 04:32.52 | Rasi | util-linux_2.25.2-6_amd64.deb |
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| 04:33.14 | veek | Rasi, tr .. |
| 04:33.36 | themill | ,file bin/column |
| 04:33.40 | judd | Search for bin/column in jessie/amd64: bsdmainutils: usr/bin/column |
| 04:33.50 | veek | cat /etc/passwd|tr -d ":" -f 1,2,3 |
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| 04:34.20 | veek | err cut |
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| 04:34.39 | Rasi | ah... that explains it. debian uses the bsd version of column |
| 04:34.41 | Rasi | hmpf |
| 04:34.51 | Rasi | and there is no package that has the linux version? |
| 04:34.56 | chozha | Failed to start motd.service: Unit motd.service is masked. ? |
| 04:35.05 | chozha | what is masked service O.o |
| 04:35.09 | Rasi | since the bsd version is missing the -o option |
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| 04:35.20 | chozha | .. |
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| 04:38.40 | Equa | chozha: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-systemctl-to-manage-systemd-services-and-units |
| 04:39.53 | chozha | Thanks Equa preciseguide |
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| 04:44.27 | chozha | systemctl list-units | grep service is this = "chkconfig --list" |
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| 04:46.02 | BBlalian | culture: do shit. |
| 04:46.10 | BBlalian | i got immedivac |
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| 04:46.39 | chozha | | |
| 04:46.42 | chozha | :| |
| 04:46.47 | elik | swift |
| 04:47.07 | chozha | themill: :o Ops |
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| 05:07.44 | lesta | yes, when I update apt I get a 404 error (http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/main/binary-amd64/Packages) |
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| 05:08.39 | lesta | I don' t understand that is my connection buggy or the update server have probs |
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| 05:09.35 | themill | it might be that one of the ftp.us.d.o mirrors is unhappy. You'll generally do better picking a specific mirror rather than using the round-robin |
| 05:10.43 | lesta | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:13.33 | veek | for 64 bit processors 1st gen clarkdale etc, should you go with 'multi arch' or amd64 or i386/486/686 |
| 05:13.39 | lesta | now let me try to reset apt-get and get another server |
| 05:13.52 | veek | i run both 32 (wine) and 64bit apps |
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| 05:21.09 | themill | veek: amd64 but you will probably need to enable i386 as a foreign architecture later on |
| 05:22.55 | maziar | hi what is this error means : http://codepaste.net/ku2iqo |
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| 05:23.28 | lesta | themill: sorry how I can clean the retrieved package files in apt-get? |
| 05:25.11 | chozha | lesta: /var/cache/apt/archives/ ? |
| 05:25.49 | beardy | lesta: 'apt-get clean' |
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| 05:26.02 | lesta | chozha: no the packgaes list that apt get from the server |
| 05:26.15 | beardy | Oh. |
| 05:26.22 | chozha | yes apt-get clean |
| 05:26.38 | lesta | ok |
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| 05:27.26 | chozha | lesta: ? any desktop customization tweak you done ? |
| 05:27.29 | themill | lesta: If you really need to, you can remove the files with rm and they will come back with the next apt-get update |
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| 05:28.15 | beardy | lesta: That will clean (delete) downloaded package files. If you want to start using another mirror to download packages from, you only have to edit your sources-file and do 'apt-get update' for the new mirror to be used, and replace your old package lists. |
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| 05:28.23 | chozha | how to lock version of a package themill ?? |
| 05:28.45 | lesta | ok, manual way... thanks |
| 05:29.16 | chozha | beardy: is it possible to priortize source list ? |
| 05:30.37 | chozha | apt-get install package "deb source main" (can we point source directly) |
| 05:31.34 | beardy | chozha: There is "pinning", and the possibility to have several architectures very easily these days, but I don't think it's possible to prioritize between mirrors in the way I think you mean. All of them will be checked, and all the lists will be used to build your machine's package list. |
| 05:32.00 | chozha | hmm okay beardy |
| 05:32.33 | beardy | chozha: If the package from different mirrors are of different versions you can choose which version perhaps. But.. you easily get into problematic situations if you start doing things like that.. what are you trying to do exactly? |
| 05:34.04 | chozha | beardy: :| just asked to know is there any way to play with apt like a pro |
| 05:34.48 | beardy | chozha: Pros avoids things like that and keeps it simple and clean unless there's a reason to do something weird like that. ;) |
| 05:35.00 | chozha | oh |
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| 05:35.15 | chozha | beardy: is you good with desktop customization ?? |
| 05:36.22 | beardy | chozha: Probably. But ask your question here and maybe I or someone else can answer it. |
| 05:37.13 | chozha | is you used awesome WM with gnome3 ? |
| 05:37.31 | beardy | No I have not. |
| 05:37.45 | chozha | okay beardy ?? |
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| 05:38.27 | chozha | docky ?? conky |
| 05:38.54 | lesta | cleaning the /var/lib/apt/lists and gettin httpredir server solve the prob |
| 05:39.01 | lesta | thanks |
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| 05:39.16 | chozha | lesta: nice |
| 05:39.30 | shay_shay | does aptitude not have a apt-get source -b equivalent? |
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| 05:47.47 | anton2s | Hello. How can I enable an early KMS start in debian? |
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| 05:58.35 | anton2s | ok. I'll try /etc/initramfs-tools/modules |
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| 06:05.08 | duckx0r | I am running an SSH server. I can connect locally by simply doing `ssh myuser@localhost`, however if I try to connect remotely I get the following in my auth.log "input_userauth_request: invalid user myuser [preauth]" even though the username is the same. How could that be? |
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| 06:18.01 | trae32566[w] | duckx0r: you check your sshd_config? http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/openssh-deny-or-restrict-access-to-users-and-groups.html |
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| 06:21.51 | alabalism | hi, guys, I have to solve that case: i have primary fully configured server (example.com) and additional server (nagios.example.com). I install and configure exim+dovecot, and sendig (alerts + results from cronjobs) is okay. But, I can't receive |
| 06:21.52 | alabalism | mails...because of mx record, i think. Can you give me hint what must be the right configuration of bind (on main server)? : ) |
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| 06:35.47 | duckx0r | trae32566[w], I'm not using AllowUsers. Besides, wouldn't that also apply to local connections? |
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| 06:36.14 | trae32566[w] | not 100% on that, was just a thought. |
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| 06:47.41 | duckx0r | trae32566[w], Thanks anyway |
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| 06:50.17 | jaggzt | where can I reduce my screen's color depth? |
| 06:51.03 | jaggzt | oh wait.. that's a google search |
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| 06:51.36 | duckx0r | jaggzt, Why would you want to reduce its color depth? |
| 06:51.47 | jaggzt | because Frodo wants 8 bit |
| 06:51.56 | jaggzt | (c64 emulator) |
| 06:52.15 | jaggzt | I'm depressed and certainly getting "Below the Root" to work will fix it |
| 06:52.42 | duckx0r | jaggzt, It's weird it doesn't do that automatically. Are there any other emulators you could try? |
| 06:54.02 | jaggzt | I was trying vice (it comes with debian), but was having problems |
| 06:55.18 | duckx0r | jaggzt, are you using SDL? |
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| 06:58.06 | jaggzt | duckx0r, what's that? |
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| 06:59.33 | duckx0r | jaggzt, http://frodo.cebix.net/ |
| 06:59.57 | jaggzt | was there some networking change recently? my host lookups are returning ipv6 addresses |
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| 07:03.00 | duckx0r | jaggzt, it's probably something on your computer |
| 07:03.26 | duckx0r | jaggzt, try disabling ipv6 and see if that makes a difference |
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| 07:09.23 | jaggzt | looks like there are some network issues between me and my nameserver .. (our own).. |
| 07:09.39 | jaggzt | I don't know much about ipv6 to know why in the world that pops up.. |
| 07:09.55 | duckx0r | jaggzt, try using Google's DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 |
| 07:11.12 | jaggzt | yeah I did.. works smooth and fast (and ipv4) |
| 07:11.29 | jaggzt | sent a message to our isp .. it looks like there's packet loss near them |
| 07:11.48 | jaggzt | hmm.. no, sdl's not installed.. trying to see if there's a debian package for it |
| 07:12.01 | jaggzt | (or, at least, Frodo's ./configure isn't seeing it.. so it's probably not installed) |
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| 07:18.38 | jaggzt | duckx0r, frodo pops up a window now.. but it has some other errors.. this is probably not worth the effort, sadly |
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| 07:40.00 | jaggzt | duckx0r, got vice working :) |
| 07:40.15 | jaggzt | you inspired me to examine logs and I noticed the 1541 rom wasn't working |
| 07:40.31 | jaggzt | so, setting it to alsa got audio working.. and it all works |
| 07:40.42 | jaggzt | Frodo, even with SDL, had other issues... but that's okay |
| 07:40.56 | jaggzt | played for 10 min.. best game ever! |
| 07:41.02 | jaggzt | (not that 10 min.. but below the root) |
| 07:41.07 | jaggzt | night! :) |
| 07:42.54 | duckx0r | jaggzt, glad you got it working |
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| 07:58.03 | crunge | curses |
| 07:58.36 | swift110-phone | Hey crunge |
| 07:59.45 | crunge | Sep 6 00:58:28 vent rpc.idmapd[1640]: nss_getpwnam: name 'myldapuser@localdomain' does not map into domain 'internal.mydomain.org' |
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| 08:10.14 | MaxLanar | Hey, I'm trying to render a file executable with 'chmod +x /sdcard/file.sh' but I get 'Bad Mode' as a result. What am I doing wrong here ? |
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| 08:11.24 | MaxLanar | (on a nexus 9 with cm-12.1) |
| 08:12.38 | crunge | sdcard is probably vfat or something similar which has no executable permission |
| 08:14.09 | crunge | 'mount' should show you what kind of filesystem it is |
| 08:15.05 | MaxLanar | of course crunge, this is it ! Sorry for that stupid question... :) |
| 08:15.26 | crunge | MaxLanar: happens to the best of us |
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| 08:16.07 | styler2go | Hello everyone. i have problems launching a debian VM. After pressig install in the boot menu i just get a plain black screen |
| 08:16.45 | crunge | styler2go: how long did you wait? |
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| 08:17.03 | styler2go | over 5 minutes |
| 08:17.24 | styler2go | i tried some stuff with #vbox because i thought it's a vbox issue. we came to that result: http://styler2go.de/screenshots/2015-09-06_10-15-03.png |
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| 08:29.38 | styler2go | any ideas? |
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| 08:33.32 | Maikel | this is kernel panic, no use of waiting. Game over for this boot. |
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| 08:41.26 | DoctorD90 | styler2go: what are you doing? |
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| 09:14.40 | no_gravity | These days, what is the default way to extract mp3 from mp4? ffmpeg? |
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| 09:15.35 | bazhang | ,v libav-tools |
| 09:15.36 | judd | Package: libav-tools on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy: 6:0.8.17-1; wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 6:11.4-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 6:11.4-1~deb8u1; sid: 7:2.7.2-2; stretch: 7:2.7.2-2; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.6.4-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.7.2-dmo2 |
| 09:18.37 | no_gravity | bazhang: does libav have the same syntax as ffmpeg? |
| 09:19.06 | bazhang | no_gravity, why are you crossposting in #ubuntu |
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| 09:19.31 | bazhang | are you on debian or ubuntu |
| 09:19.41 | no_gravity | bazhang: i got debian, mint and ubuntu installed on my machine. i use whatever gets the job done. |
| 09:19.56 | trae32566[w] | O_O |
| 09:19.59 | trae32566[w] | why... |
| 09:20.01 | bazhang | its different for the two |
| 09:20.13 | no_gravity | i also have win 8 and win 10 running in virtual machines. |
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| 09:20.22 | trae32566[w] | that I understand |
| 09:20.34 | bazhang | differing distros, differing answers |
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| 09:20.46 | trae32566[w] | but why run multiple distros on a physical machine... 99% of the time, 1 distro will work, and no top of that, you can always virtualize it |
| 09:21.34 | no_gravity | looks like "avconv -i the.mp4 the.mp3" does the job. |
| 09:21.43 | no_gravity | at least it's doing *something* :) |
| 09:21.44 | bazhang | should do |
| 09:21.54 | trae32566[w] | heh |
| 09:22.03 | trae32566[w] | just make sure to turn down the volume when testing |
| 09:22.12 | trae32566[w] | god forbid it's the wrong format and blows a speaker |
| 09:22.44 | trae32566[w] | (not from being the wrong format, but from being turned up loud + unexpected audio at unexpected volumes) |
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| 09:23.11 | no_gravity | trae32566[w]: as for distros, i like to test around for a while with the latest versions. so far my favorite is mint. then comes debian. ubuntu is the sheer horror for me. |
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| 09:23.59 | cohonen | hi guys, im looking to making a docker image with debian and samba |
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| 09:25.03 | cohonen | apt-get install samba tells me there are 118 deps and 136 MB sw needed . is that really the minimum ? |
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| 09:25.54 | cohonen | i see a ton of perl exim and other stuff i dont really need |
| 09:26.09 | cohonen | is there a minimal samba/cifs server package/group ? |
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| 09:28.42 | NoirLess | guys, someone got problem, when games on source crashes at launch with primusrun? Im asking here, cuz didnt find newer version of bumblebee in repo |
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| 09:30.16 | valdyn | cohonen: show us the actual output of apt-get |
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| 09:33.46 | cohonen | http://paste.awesom.eu/sambabloat/BHde&ln |
| 09:33.50 | cohonen | valdyn: there |
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| 09:35.04 | valdyn | cohonen: samba is written in python |
| 09:35.13 | valdyn | cohonen: so you get python as a dependency |
| 09:36.02 | valdyn | cohonen: samba also implements ad, which is based on kerberos, so you get krb5 stuff as a dependency |
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| 09:36.19 | cohonen | valdyn: thats fine, but the whole exim/perl arsenal? |
| 09:36.49 | veek | what does he mean by: Depending on the local changes to the packages, an update may also be required in the debian/ |
| 09:36.49 | veek | control file, which contains a description of the generated packages. In particular, this file con- |
| 09:36.49 | veek | tains Build-Depends lines controlling the list of dependencies that must be fulfilled at package |
| 09:36.49 | veek | build time. These often refer to versions of packages contained in the distribution the source |
| 09:36.49 | veek | package comes from, but which may not be available in the distribution used for the rebuild. |
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| 09:37.22 | valdyn | cohonen: cron needs an mta, exim is the default one, but you could preinstall any mta |
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| 09:37.45 | veek | sorry https://paste.debian.net/310538/ |
| 09:38.13 | veek | the last bit.. 'autobuilder' |
| 09:38.21 | cohonen | valdyn: but why does samba need cron ? |
| 09:38.39 | valdyn | cohonen: it includes a cronjob |
| 09:38.48 | cohonen | for krb maintenance ? |
| 09:39.16 | valdyn | cohonen: just to backup /etc/samba/smbpasswd |
| 09:39.22 | cohonen | sigh,.i guess its fine, i know samba is an fance piece of kit, 118 pkgs just seemed excessive |
| 09:39.43 | valdyn | cohonen: thats not a big number, debian is just very granular |
| 09:41.24 | cohonen | mnn yea, ive noticed, i guess theres not much to do to cut it down without getting sidetracked |
| 09:43.09 | valdyn | cohonen: you can try "apt-get --no-install-recommends samba" |
| 09:43.39 | shay_shay | and then youll have to figure out what parts dont work because you're missing optional components |
| 09:43.40 | valdyn | cohonen: but it looks like thats your default already, I think |
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| 09:44.07 | valdyn | shay_shay: thats true, but parts of samba dont even work with the set of depends on seeing |
| 09:44.25 | valdyn | shay_shay: thats true, but parts of samba dont even work with the set of depends *Im* seeing in his paste |
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| 09:47.42 | cohonen | valdyn: not quite , that takes us down to 70 pkgs and 116 mb |
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| 09:49.03 | pankgeorg | Hello guys, what is the status of mongodb in sid? It says it has been replaced by mongodb-server and that mongodb-server has no installation candidate. Any ideas? |
| 09:49.40 | valdyn | judd: versions mongodb-server |
| 09:49.41 | judd | Package: mongodb-server on amd64 -- squeeze: 1:1.4.4-3; squeeze-backports: 1:2.0.0-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:2.0.6-1.1; wheezy-backports: 1:2.4.8-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:2.4.10-5; sid: 1:2.4.14-3 |
| 09:50.05 | valdyn | pankgeorg: its there. Your package sources are broken or not up to date |
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| 09:51.35 | NoirLess | guys https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3506 |
| 09:51.55 | NoirLess | problem is actually on stable version. Any ideas? |
| 09:52.32 | pankgeorg | valdyn: Thanks for the answer. I have main, contrib non-free for testing, testing-updates, security testing/updates, any idea what is missing? Could you pastebin me yours? |
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| 09:54.11 | NoirLess | its about intel driver conflict with proprietary nvidia driver on stable |
| 09:54.29 | valdyn | pankgeorg: sid / unstable is missing |
| 09:54.40 | valdyn | pankgeorg: while you specifically asked about sid |
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| 09:57.12 | pankgeorg | valdyn: Seems I am wrong, I have testing not unstable. So the package is not there right? |
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| 09:58.46 | _fennesz_ | Hello! can someone tell me what wildcard I can use for files that contain space characters ? E.g. picture 1.jpg , picture 2.jpg ? |
| 09:58.58 | shay_shay | \ |
| 09:59.47 | shay_shay | _fennesz_: are you trying to match all files with whitespace in them? |
| 10:00.17 | _fennesz_ | shay_shay, smthing like : for file in *.jpg does not work |
| 10:00.57 | shay_shay | _fennesz_: you need some quotes i think |
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| 10:01.01 | markybob | _fennesz_, it would with quotes |
| 10:01.10 | _fennesz_ | can you give me an example |
| 10:01.11 | _fennesz_ | ? |
| 10:01.15 | shay_shay | hold on |
| 10:01.20 | _fennesz_ | I want to : for file in *.jpg |
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| 10:02.17 | shay_shay | for i in '*.jpg'; do echo $i; done |
| 10:02.18 | veek | https://paste.debian.net/310538/ could someone clarify the last bit.. autobuilder |
| 10:02.47 | shay_shay | _fennesz_: i had to switch to bash, my main shell works without the quotes :) |
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| 10:03.17 | shay_shay | _fennesz_: oh i made a mistake |
| 10:03.20 | _fennesz_ | cool let me check this , shay_shay |
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| 10:04.41 | shay_shay | _fennesz_: i think $i needs to be ${i} |
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| 10:04.51 | shay_shay | not sure about that... |
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| 10:06.04 | _fennesz_ | I have this : for file in '*.jpg';do convert $file -resize 600x600! resized-600_${file};done |
| 10:06.09 | _fennesz_ | but I get an error |
| 10:06.26 | _fennesz_ | convert: unable to open image `resized-600_*-0.jpg': Invalid argument @ error/blob.c/OpenBlob/2709. |
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| 10:07.46 | _fennesz_ | same with for file in '*.jpg';do convert $file -resize 600x600! resized-600_$file;done |
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| 10:09.15 | markybob | _fennesz_, where'd you come up with for file, to begin with? |
| 10:09.32 | markybob | _fennesz_, for i in "*.jpg" |
| 10:09.40 | shay_shay | file works too |
| 10:09.54 | _fennesz_ | markybob, what do you mean ? |
| 10:10.03 | _fennesz_ | shay_shay, does it work for you ? |
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| 10:10.30 | shay_shay | i have a much simpler for loop, but yes $file works ... try with double quites like markybob suggested tho |
| 10:10.31 | _fennesz_ | I can make file -> i , but I don't think this is the issue |
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| 10:10.51 | _fennesz_ | ok let me check |
| 10:11.32 | _fennesz_ | nope still nothing ... |
| 10:11.35 | _fennesz_ | pfff |
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| 10:11.56 | shay_shay | ok it wasnt that :D |
| 10:12.00 | markybob | _fennesz_, try #bash |
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| 10:12.14 | shay_shay | or try fish :D |
| 10:12.54 | _fennesz_ | #bash? |
| 10:13.27 | shay_shay | it's a channe; |
| 10:13.29 | shay_shay | l |
| 10:13.33 | _fennesz_ | ah ! ok |
| 10:13.35 | _fennesz_ | :) |
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| 10:13.51 | _fennesz_ | thank you anyway |
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| 10:16.25 | _fennesz_ | do you guys know how if I can make somthing like : convert somefile.jpg -resize %dx%d! resized-%dx%d %(600,600) |
| 10:16.57 | shay_shay | with an array |
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| 10:17.11 | shay_shay | ask in bash |
| 10:17.22 | _fennesz_ | I just want to pass the value of 600 to the parameters |
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| 10:17.29 | _fennesz_ | ok ok I ll ask in bash |
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| 10:19.23 | bin0x58 | I was wondering what the difference is between a |
| 10:19.41 | bin0x58 | ubuntu and a debian system |
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| 10:20.10 | bin0x58 | and what are the benefits of debian |
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| 10:22.59 | shay_shay | _fennesz_: that was fast |
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| 10:23.44 | shay_shay | bin0x58: debian is better because it's better! |
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| 10:24.29 | bin0x58 | shay_shay: can you elaborate on that, like one good reason |
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| 10:25.29 | shay_shay | debian doesnt bog you down with abstraction layers, or hold you back with excessive hand holding |
| 10:25.39 | shay_shay | in my opinion |
| 10:26.03 | shay_shay | anyways, theres lots of info on the web |
| 10:26.04 | bin0x58 | shay_shay: well then it must be done, I'll have to make the change |
| 10:26.58 | bin0x58 | ya thats true..I shoulf |
| 10:27.09 | bin0x58 | shouldn't be asking here* |
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| 10:27.25 | NoirLess | is there any alternative archive managers? cuz my default (im uses gnome) is bugged for some files |
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| 10:27.51 | shay_shay | bin0x58: its fine i just think the conversation could get carried away thats all |
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| 10:28.37 | bin0x58 | shay_shay: well you answered my question with one sentence. Thank you |
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| 10:31.39 | atarip123 | in the installation of apt-build, I entered "-specs=/new/specs" as an additional gcc option. But it is not being called during apt-build install, despite of being added to the .conf. Am I missing something? |
| 10:32.23 | Kruppt | NoirLess: apt-cache search ark;apt-cache search xarchiver |
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| 10:34.57 | NoirLess | @Kruppt, but it uses gtk2... or its nvm? |
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| 10:36.50 | zhxk | how to auto-restart a terminated deamon? |
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| 10:38.28 | zhxk | how to auto-restart a accidently exitd deamon? |
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| 10:38.47 | talin_ | hello. where can i find the "arp" utility? |
| 10:38.59 | talin_ | i checked packages.debian.org, but it says net-tools should have it, but i have it installed |
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| 10:39.57 | babilen | talin_: It is indded in net-tools, what does "/usr/sbin/arp --version" give you? |
| 10:40.51 | talin_ | babilen: ack, how silly of me... |
| 10:41.39 | babilen | talin_: My guess is that you don't have /usr/sbin in your PATH and that you therefore, wrongly, assumed that "arp" (called that way) was entirely missing on your system, even though it simply wasn't in PATH |
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| 10:42.27 | talin_ | babilen: :) |
| 10:42.30 | babilen | Something like the following should rectify that: PATH=/sbin:/usr/sbin:"${PATH}" |
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| 10:55.17 | Kruppt | NoirLess:apt-cache search squeeze nvm? |
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| 10:59.38 | uzumaki_naruto | i configure open vpn in kali linux and it is not connecting |
| 11:00.00 | NoirLess | guys, cant open some rar files (without passwords). Gnome arhieve manager says no errors, but cant extract (false-succefully result) and xarchiever with unrar-free fails to extract too. Any ideas? |
| 11:00.09 | NoirLess | *c |
| 11:00.10 | RoyK | !kali |
| 11:00.10 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 11:00.15 | markybob | uzumaki_naruto, cool |
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| 11:01.35 | allizom | NoirLess: use unrar from non-free? |
| 11:02.18 | NoirLess | @allizom, which model its have? freeware or shareware? |
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| 11:05.48 | allizom | Don't know. Either way, I would just ask whoever gave you this archive to compress it in another format if possible |
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| 11:06.22 | NoirLess | installed nonfree rar for p7zip and it works great right now |
| 11:06.41 | NoirLess | i have no idea, why free version of rar cant open some files |
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| 11:07.33 | allizom | because rar is not a free archival format |
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| 11:10.19 | NoirLess | but some people still use rar in 2k15... thats close |
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| 11:11.26 | RDash | Hrm weird, trying to mount on Wheezy the CIFS Method and having the output of: https://gist.github.com/Anime-Machina/352b283785ca417cf6d9 |
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| 11:13.35 | NoirLess | also, as i said before, there are bug in intel drivers in debian stable |
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| 11:14.21 | NoirLess | is there any list of future updates with dates? Cuz current intel drivers doesnt work fine with bumblebee |
| 11:14.47 | markybob | NoirLess, no |
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| 11:16.08 | hexnewbie | NoirLess: The free unrar is supporting only older RAR formats. For a free tool to uncompress/extract newer RAR formats, you need unar. |
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| 11:17.58 | hexnewbie | NoirLess: unar for Linux is a GNUstep port of command-line part of The Unarchiver app for Mac OS X. |
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| 11:19.48 | hexnewbie | NoirLess: It's extracting pretty much everything, including a lot of stuff that can't be extracted with anything else: http://unarchiver.c3.cx/formats |
| 11:20.31 | kooldavi | hi. is there a way to go from debian testint to debian stable? can i change "testing" to "stable" or "jessie" in the sources.list file? will this cause any problems? |
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| 11:21.01 | markybob | kooldavi, no |
| 11:21.04 | markybob | !downgrade |
| 11:21.05 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 11:22.03 | kooldavi | so if i want to "downgrade" i have to reinstall debian? |
| 11:22.12 | markybob | kooldavi, yes |
| 11:22.18 | kooldavi | okay, thank you |
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| 11:38.26 | NoirLess | @kooldavi, i think, if you ll change sources, older packages may break you system |
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| 11:40.39 | Jonno_FTW | is there no more chrome repo? |
| 11:41.13 | RDash | guys can some one help me with this: https://gist.github.com/Anime-Machina/352b283785ca417cf6d9 |
| 11:41.38 | markybob | Jonno_FTW, sure there is. deb http://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main |
| 11:41.53 | Jonno_FTW | apt keeps saying it's 404 |
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| 11:42.20 | markybob | Jonno_FTW, double check. works here. just tried it. |
| 11:42.33 | Jonno_FTW | might be a typo :S |
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| 11:58.17 | jelly | RDash: does ls as root work, and which user are the files and directories owned by? |
| 11:58.34 | RDash | jelly, ls as root works gives full list of directory´s |
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| 11:58.53 | RDash | jelly, the directory´s are owned by user: rdash and group users |
| 11:59.38 | jelly | RDash: show the output of "id -a; sudo ls -ld /media/storage" |
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| 11:59.57 | jelly | (id as normal user, ls as root) |
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| 12:01.02 | RDash | jelly, id -a; sudo ls -ld /media/storage |
| 12:01.04 | RDash | erm :| |
| 12:01.09 | RDash | https://gist.github.com/Anime-Machina/9c24e663337ff4ec1687 |
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| 12:01.38 | RDash | fail paste to gist -.-¨ |
| 12:01.44 | jelly | RDash: that mountpoint is not owned by rdash |
| 12:02.00 | RDash | jelly, hrm chown rdash:rdash /media/storage |
| 12:02.05 | RDash | -R ofc :p |
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| 12:03.02 | jelly | RDash: man mount.cifs, read about uid= and gid= mount options and add them to match the rdash user, also add dir_mode=0755 if needed |
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| 12:04.13 | jelly | chown probably won't work if the server side doesn't support unix extensions for cifs |
| 12:05.34 | BeRoots | Hello :) |
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| 12:05.45 | RDash | jelly, so I got now: //192.168.1.101/storage /media/storage cifs credentials=/home/rdash/.smbcredentials,uid=1000,gid=1000,dir_mode=0755,iocharset=utf8,sec=ntlmv2 0 0 |
| 12:06.03 | RDash | which still causes the permission denied thing :| |
| 12:06.14 | RDash | $ ls /media/storage/ |
| 12:06.15 | RDash | ls: cannot open directory /media/storage/: Permission denied |
| 12:06.25 | jelly | RDash: ls -ld /media/storage again |
| 12:06.56 | RDash | d--------- 18 rdash rdash 0 Aug 22 20:15 /media/storage/ |
| 12:07.20 | jelly | as if dir_mode=0755 did not take |
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| 12:09.06 | RDash | how about chown a+x /media/storage |
| 12:09.18 | jelly | again, that won't work |
| 12:09.18 | RDash | what was it |
| 12:09.24 | RDash | hrm :< |
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| 12:09.43 | RDash | it successfully mounts with full permissions on my other desktop :| |
| 12:09.50 | jelly | RDash: you can certainly try to sudo chmod 755 /media/storage, see if it does anything |
| 12:09.57 | jelly | RDash: which debian release is this? |
| 12:10.03 | RDash | wheezy |
| 12:10.29 | RDash | din´t budget at all the CHMOD |
| 12:11.32 | shay_shay | would there be a scenario having only a deb-src for sid but no deb-src for jessie would be harmful to a user? |
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| 12:12.05 | jelly | RDash: just for run, can you also add file_mode=0644, then umount and mount again? |
| 12:12.10 | jelly | for fun* |
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| 12:13.11 | jelly | shay_shay: not likely, deb-src don't take an active part in package management anyway |
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| 12:13.48 | RDash | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.48 | RDash | tits.txt.txt |
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| 12:13.51 | RDash | worked :) |
| 12:13.54 | RDash | thanks jelly :D |
| 12:14.04 | shay_shay | jelly: ok thats what i thought. |
| 12:14.20 | shay_shay | someone was trying to tell me otherwise... |
| 12:14.31 | RDash | jelly, although I would like to make the directory also available for the user www-data |
| 12:15.09 | jelly | RDash: those modes should make it read-only for any user on the client machine |
| 12:15.25 | RDash | jelly, it must be able to read and write :| |
| 12:15.49 | RDash | it must be able to write data because its going to run owncloud :) |
| 12:15.59 | jelly | RDash: then figure out a shared group for you and www-data, and change gid and file_mode and dir_mode accordingly |
| 12:16.36 | RDash | basically making a group ´owncloud´ and add www-data and rdash to it? |
| 12:16.40 | RDash | and mount the directory as that? |
| 12:16.44 | jelly | or make sure owncloud runs as user rdash |
| 12:16.47 | jelly | :-) |
| 12:16.52 | RDash | D: |
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| 12:17.04 | jelly | it has "own" in the name! |
| 12:17.08 | RDash | I preffer not to mess with nginx :P |
| 12:17.36 | jelly | RDash: something like that yes |
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| 12:30.51 | BeRoots | I would like to make my custom debian-stable-amd64-HDD.iso with custom sources used in my current debian jessie same as her... jigdo is a way for installation upgade via the network but i would like a non-netinstall version, with custom sources. I would like possibility to have just cdrom in sources.list by default or cdrom+src if i overwrite the sources.list. How to process for this? i... |
| 12:30.52 | BeRoots | ...think to make a proxy software in my jessie networked and after i would like to put proxy's sources in a standard debian-8.1.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso. What do you think about it ? |
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| 12:53.31 | RDash | jelly, about the problem before, how do I set the directory to 0770 (Permission wise) |
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| 12:54.57 | at0m | RDash: as root, if it's not yours, chmod 770 /dir ? |
| 12:55.08 | RDash | at0m, its a network mounted directory |
| 12:55.13 | at0m | when on mounts, i like the unmount it first |
| 12:55.14 | at0m | ok |
| 12:57.00 | RDash | at0m, still the same problem :< |
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| 12:57.07 | RDash | installing owncloud though |
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| 13:06.10 | yeetfimt | anyone commented yet at FCC? when the commenting period will close? September 8, 2015, or, October 9, 2015 ? |
| 13:06.51 | starbuck | hi, how can i disable a certain service, let's say nmbd, at startup? |
| 13:07.06 | starbuck | by default it starts when i reboot the machine |
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| 13:11.46 | ychaouche | heloo #debian |
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| 13:12.10 | ychaouche | starbuck: there's rc.d involved |
| 13:12.22 | ychaouche | man update-rc.d |
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| 13:14.18 | starbuck | ychaouche, and i thought it's all systemd now |
| 13:14.20 | starbuck | ... |
| 13:14.33 | ychaouche | oh it depends then. |
| 13:14.39 | ychaouche | I have an old debian |
| 13:14.44 | ychaouche | 7.4 ish ? |
| 13:14.53 | starbuck | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:14.53 | starbuck | Synchronizing state for nmbd.service with sysvinit using update-rc.d... |
| 13:14.53 | starbuck | Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d nmbd defaults |
| 13:14.53 | starbuck | Executing /usr/sbin/update-rc.d nmbd disable |
| 13:14.53 | starbuck | insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `nmbd' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). |
| 13:14.53 | starbuck | insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `nmbd' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6). |
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| 13:15.30 | starbuck | https://paste.debian.net/310555/ |
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| 13:15.46 | starbuck | ah ok |
| 13:16.04 | ychaouche | Guys, my last log is empty (last command). I want to find out how many times the machine rebooted last week. Any clues ? |
| 13:16.18 | ychaouche | can't find .1 copies in /var/log |
| 13:16.41 | ychaouche | there's only one file called /var/log/lastlog and it's in binary, it was created today. |
| 13:16.56 | ychaouche | how can I find records for previous weeks ? |
| 13:17.17 | ychaouche | starbuck: you must be new to IRC aren't you ? |
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| 13:18.26 | ychaouche | uptime says the machine is up since 158 days, so no reboots apparently |
| 13:18.40 | starbuck | ychaouche: nope |
| 13:19.16 | ychaouche | The don't paste more than 3 lines rule has been there for decades. |
| 13:19.24 | ychaouche | and even 3 lines... |
| 13:19.34 | starbuck | ah ok |
| 13:20.05 | starbuck | it's not like this channel is buzzing with ongoing wild chats |
| 13:21.56 | jordanm | ychaouche: the "last" command will display the contents of lastlog |
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| 13:29.00 | ychaouche | jordanm: so no backups anywhere ? |
| 13:29.37 | ychaouche | starbuck: it's sunday over here. |
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| 13:29.54 | jordanm | ychaouche: oh |
| 13:30.01 | jordanm | ychaouche: "lastlog" is /var/log/lastlog |
| 13:30.25 | ychaouche | yeah, I know, I've written that earlier. |
| 13:30.25 | jordanm | ychaouche: "last" is /var/log/wtmp |
| 13:31.17 | ychaouche | ok nevermind |
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| 13:45.18 | weirdtunguska | Hi all, I'm trying to download the USB Netinst image for 8.0.2 from debian website, but I'm getting 404 - the image is not there. Any ideas? |
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| 13:46.27 | Jonno_FTW | what do I do about this error? W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/dists/unstable/main/source/Sources Hash Sum mismatch |
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| 13:52.15 | chozha | is it possible to use kvm with vagrant ?? |
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| 13:57.44 | themill | Jonno_FTW: it's a day that ends in y. The iinet mirror is broken. |
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| 14:00.01 | Jonno_FTW | welp |
| 14:00.06 | popobo | Hello everyone. I'm trying to download Debian and I get 404! The apocalypse! |
| 14:00.07 | popobo | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 14:00.09 | Jonno_FTW | I reran and it worked fine :S |
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| 14:00.30 | weirdtunguska | ,popobo same thing here! |
| 14:00.36 | weirdtunguska | popobo, same thing here! |
| 14:00.46 | popobo | What are we going to do!??! :S |
| 14:00.52 | weirdtunguska | it's the end of the world as we know it! |
| 14:01.17 | dvs | popobo: There is no 8.2.0 directory (yet) |
| 14:01.21 | weirdtunguska | the images should be regenerating |
| 14:01.30 | weirdtunguska | #flood http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 14:01.44 | Josh4all | how to set up a VPN(PPTP) under Debian LXDE? |
| 14:01.55 | weirdtunguska | that's were the homepage is directing to download the netinst image |
| 14:02.38 | themill | popobo, weirdtunguska: a point release was only made a few hours ago. It normally takes some time to get it back in sync |
| 14:02.45 | popobo | dvs and weirdtunguska, so I just have to wait? |
| 14:02.57 | popobo | ok themill thanks, do you know how much time is that? more or less |
| 14:02.57 | Josh4all | network-manager doesn't work under LXDE |
| 14:03.06 | babilen | popobo: You could download the 8.1.0 one now, install and then upgrade in place |
| 14:03.10 | themill | popobo: you can just grab the 8.1 image right now |
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| 14:03.50 | babilen | popobo: I would personally recommend to use the image with firmware: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 14:03.59 | dvs | popobo: 8.1.0 is still there |
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| 14:05.31 | popobo | Ok thank you very much guys |
| 14:05.37 | weirdtunguska | yeah, thanks, but there were no warning on the webpage, nothing, no info |
| 14:05.50 | themill | weirdtunguska: that's the nature of transient problems |
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| 14:07.33 | RoyK | Josh4all: really, don't use pptp |
| 14:09.01 | Josh4all | RoyK, no way to solve that? |
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| 14:09.45 | RoyK | Josh4all: if you're not running the vpn server with pptp, no. if you are, use openvpn. |
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| 14:10.32 | Josh4all | oops, I want to -.- |
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| 14:12.34 | dFence | hey guys! |
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| 14:13.32 | petn-randall | Hi dFence. |
| 14:13.42 | dFence | Iâm trying to track down a memory leak in irqbalance; whatâs the best way to prove it? cat /proc/`cpuinfo irqbalance`/status | grep VmSize doesnât quite cut it |
| 14:14.10 | petn-randall | dFence: How do think irqbalance has a memory leak in the first place? |
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| 14:14.37 | Josh4all | RoyK, thx anyways :) I'll try shadowsocks instead |
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| 14:14.51 | dFence | petn-randall: shows the same symptoms as described on its github page, I already filed a bug for it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=797993 |
| 14:14.52 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/797993 in irqbalance (open, patch): «irqbalance: Memory Leak / Excessive Memory usage in Xen guest»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-04; last modified: 2015-09-04. |
| 14:15.19 | dFence | Now Iâm just trying to gather more evidence other than top saying âdude, irqbalance is hogging stuff!â |
| 14:17.35 | dFence | ah, VmSize actually does help; irqbalance grew from roughly 20MB RAM usage to 280MB in as little as 2.5 days |
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| 14:24.30 | petn-randall | dFence: Should be enough to mention it and point to the upstream bug report. |
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| 14:27.12 | dFence | cool |
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| 14:51.26 | vev | i m looking for people who have spare time to help me on semantic form / Je cherche des gens qui ont du temps pour m'aider sur semantic form - /contact me on the new project #libreidea |
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| 15:01.55 | dFence | patched it, letâs see if it does the trick |
| 15:04.05 | Phyks | hmm, I do not have debian.polytech-lille.fr mirror in my sources.list but apt-get update still tries to connect to it⦠any idea? |
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| 15:38.46 | jelly | lucullan: any thrid party repo is a bug unknown |
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| 15:38.52 | jelly | big* unknown |
| 15:39.30 | zykotick9 | jelly: i think the "bug unknown" works as well (if not better) ;) |
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| 15:43.53 | elik | I have an embedded debian system. I noticed my boot is slowed by udev. I understand the use of udev on a laptop or desktop, but I don't really need all that flexibility. How would I optimize that? |
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| 15:52.39 | lucullan | jelly, could it seriously compromise the security of the distribution? |
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| 15:53.33 | jelly | lucullan: yes, but that means nothing |
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| 15:54.07 | jelly | you'll have to judge the trustworthiness of the vendor yourself |
| 15:54.24 | lucullan | jelly, so what is going on? |
| 15:54.29 | lucullan | ok |
| 15:54.39 | lucullan | Tox.chat is worthy of all, right? |
| 15:55.32 | jelly | does not even know what that thing is |
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| 15:59.39 | p3rror | hello |
| 16:00.09 | somiaj | greetings, if you have a debian support question just ask. |
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| 16:00.15 | p3rror | please how to limit bandwidth on a web server |
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| 16:04.13 | somiaj | p3rror: there are various ways I'm getting from google. You could try to do it at the network level with iptables and its advanced options, but there also apears to be a program called trickle which might fit your needs |
| 16:04.30 | somiaj | I haven't done this, so no experience, but those seem to be the two most common methods suggested. |
| 16:04.56 | p3rror | somiaj, thank you for your reply |
| 16:05.07 | p3rror | why we have to limit bandwidth on a web server |
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| 16:05.34 | p3rror | may be to be aware from dos attack |
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| 16:06.34 | somiaj | p3rror: I have little experience here, but an actual hardware router or load ballancer is where I would do this (not on the system itself), but I would look at trickle unless you really want to program your own netfileter with iptables, then ##networking might be useful for you. |
| 16:07.01 | somiaj | and I'm sure there are common ways to try to stop dos attacks, again I think they should be done at the hardware router level not on the server (But I also have no experiience with this) |
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| 16:23.48 | TDSoul | lol ya beat me to it |
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| 16:27.33 | jenia | hello. |
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| 16:28.09 | jenia | does anyone remember the name of the man that did a speech on youtube about Free Software. How they fail and how they succeeed and so on. |
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| 16:28.37 | jenia | he works for/with debian. kind of young. he's a supported of Free Software rather than OpenSource. |
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| 16:36.12 | allizom | jenia: anyone listed here https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/ch-leaders ? |
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| 16:38.29 | jenia | allizom, no. unfortunately not. |
| 16:38.41 | jenia | thanks a lot anyways though!! |
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| 16:41.09 | akisam | after a net install without a DE, what's supposed to work out of the box ? |
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| 16:42.05 | jelly | akisam: logging in, editing files with vi, becoming root and running apt-get, that sort of thing |
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| 16:42.35 | somiaj | akisam: though vi might not be installed and you'll have to use nano, it is a very minimial system (but the core such as networking, booting, console and apt/dpkg work) |
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| 16:43.38 | kilbith | hello, the download link on the main page (https://www.debian.org/) is 404 for me... |
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| 16:44.37 | markybob | kilbith, yep |
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| 16:45.09 | somiaj | markybob: try changing the 8-2 to 8-1 (the rc images are still being tested and looks like the webpage updated before the images were fully availalbe) |
| 16:45.13 | kilbith | ShadowVix: why are you PM-ing me ? |
| 16:45.22 | somiaj | kilbith: ^^ read what I said |
| 16:45.48 | kilbith | ok, thanks - will try it |
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| 16:46.19 | kilbith | works with 8-1 |
| 16:47.59 | akisam | that's what I want but when I tried to install it, without a DE internet wasn't working, and with a DE sound isn't working |
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| 16:49.07 | somiaj | akisam: sometimes you are just missing the firmware needed for your network card. But the base ssytem has enough tools to configure the network (if you copy the required firmware over) |
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| 16:51.57 | akisam | somiaj: I dont really understand, but do you know how/where can I get the firmware ? |
| 16:52.27 | somiaj | akisam: not unless you give us more info on what network card you are using. I'm just giving you a common issue |
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| 16:56.03 | er4z0r | TheNumb: hey, you mentioned yesterday (or day before) you were running a custom kernel with grsecurity. Which kernel version? |
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| 16:56.24 | akisam | somiaj: what info ? |
| 16:56.39 | markybob | akisam, chipset |
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| 16:57.07 | markybob | akisam, good start, without having any info from you, would be to use http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-8.1.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 16:57.08 | somiaj | akisam: chipset is the best info we can get. pciid or usbid can also help |
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| 16:57.26 | TheNumb | er4z0r: 3.14 |
| 16:57.31 | laslas | Hello |
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| 16:57.32 | laslas | I cant view my ssd in ubuntu but i can through bios |
| 16:57.42 | laslas | i sorry debian. |
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| 16:58.04 | laslas | What can i do? Im running seabios |
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| 16:59.03 | somiaj | laslas: what do you mean can't see it, check dmesg and look for what it says about the various drives it detects |
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| 17:00.45 | er4z0r | TheNumb: thanks |
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| 17:01.49 | laslas | somiaj: when i boot i can see the drive as available but i cant boot into it. I am running from a liveusb now |
| 17:02.10 | akisam | what's the command to get a command's output on pastebin ? |
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| 17:02.53 | petn-randall | akisam: 'pastebinit'? |
| 17:03.06 | somiaj | note paste.debian.net was reported to be down, might have to use a differnt pastebin |
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| 17:04.27 | kilbith | somiaj: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Debian-8.2-Jessie-Released |
| 17:04.34 | kilbith | that news is wrong then ? |
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| 17:05.25 | markybob | kilbith, the news is right. you need to read all of it. "New installation media and CD and DVD images containing updated packages will be available soo" |
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| 17:05.43 | markybob | kilbith, https://www.debian.org/News/2015/20150905 |
| 17:05.59 | allizom | Is this ShadowVix bot /msg ing others too? |
| 17:06.05 | somiaj | kilbith: 8-2 was just relaesed, the CD team has been searching for volunteers to check the images. I think they are taking time to check them all before they make them public. Hence you can't get the 8-2 images just yet. |
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| 17:06.24 | somiaj | kilbith: if you want to test the images you could join #debian-cd on irc.oftc.net and ask there |
| 17:06.34 | kilbith | i was referring to the phoronix article |
| 17:06.50 | somiaj | correct, 8-2 is released, but new install iamges are not |
| 17:06.54 | kilbith | also you implied that 8-2 was still a RC above |
| 17:07.03 | akisam | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/kvYMCcRK |
| 17:07.12 | jelly | allizom: I don't think it's just a bot., and it certainly doesn't /msg everyone that enters the channel |
| 17:07.37 | somiaj | since 8-2 is just 8-1 + security/bug fixes, installing 8-1 and upgrading is an acceptable way to install debian while we wait for ht enew images to be avaialbe |
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| 17:07.50 | jelly | allizom: so I suggest you /ignore them for the time being. If there are more reports, we may do something harsher. |
| 17:07.56 | markybob | allizom, jelly he's been sending me /msg too |
| 17:08.10 | allizom | ok jelly |
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| 17:08.19 | markybob | no idea why |
| 17:08.48 | jelly | markybob: pastebin everything someplace and /msg me the details, please |
| 17:08.51 | er4z0r | TheNumb: sorry, still learning. If I got it right, grsecurity patches apply to the stock kernel. What about debians patches to the kernel? is that a source of trouble? |
| 17:09.10 | kilbith | yes, i have ShadowVix private messaging me for no reason also |
| 17:09.10 | somiaj | akisam: that device doesn't require firmware, https://wiki.debian.org/ath9k, so I'm surprised the installer did not configure it correctly to use during a net install. |
| 17:09.16 | markybob | jelly, i've closed it and don't keep irc logs. if it happens again i will |
| 17:09.18 | somiaj | akisam: I'm assuming youa re talking about the wifi device on your system. |
| 17:09.30 | kilbith | there are some weird people on IRC :/ |
| 17:09.52 | at0m | if not on irc, where else |
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| 17:11.26 | TheNumb | er4z0r: I don't care about the debian patches tbh |
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| 17:11.30 | akisam | somiaj: maybe my internet connection was down at that moment (but I don't think so), my sound isn't working too. |
| 17:12.10 | er4z0r | TheNumb: me neither as long as it does not cause me too much extra pain because some userland tools expect them to be there ;-) |
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| 17:12.54 | somiaj | akisam: lets attack one issue at a time. Lets get yoru internet issue resolved and then we will figure otu sound next. |
| 17:13.14 | Tsutsukakushi | hai |
| 17:13.29 | somiaj | akisam: did you give me that paste from your running system? |
| 17:14.10 | akisam | yeah |
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| 17:14.48 | somiaj | akisam: the module is already loaded so your device is up, run '/sbin/ifconfig -a' do you see wlan0 or eth0 (this will say your network card is ready to be used), maybe we just need to configure it. |
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| 17:15.36 | akisam | somiaj: yes, what I was saying is that, when I installed debian with the net install without any DE/WM internet wasn't working, but I installed a DE/WM it was working |
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| 17:16.18 | markybob | akisam, so basically you used network-manager in the DE? |
| 17:16.23 | somiaj | akisam: sounds like a configuration issue at the time, but seems to be fine now. So you now have a system with internet and a running DE? |
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| 17:16.45 | akisam | markybob: yes |
| 17:16.51 | markybob | haha, okay |
| 17:16.55 | markybob | that makes sense |
| 17:17.46 | akisam | somiaj: and yes wlan0 and eth0 are configured |
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| 17:18.23 | somiaj | akisam: good. Now onto your sound issue, do you use pulseaudio or not? (gnome I think uses pulse by default but not sure what DE you are using) |
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| 17:18.42 | akisam | markybob: what's funny about that ? I used wicd |
| 17:18.45 | akisam | somiaj: lde |
| 17:18.48 | akisam | somiaj: lxde |
| 17:19.14 | somiaj | akisam: ps fax | grep pulse (lets make sure pulse is not running/installed -- I dont think it will be) |
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| 17:20.18 | akisam | somiaj: 1210 tty S 0:00 start pulseaudi |
| 17:20.44 | akisam | typo |
| 17:21.05 | somiaj | akisam: so you are running pulseaudio. That is fine, install the program pavucontrol and you should be able to use that to configure which sound card, volumes and the likes |
| 17:21.41 | akisam | http://pastebin.com/BBtrmpMA |
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| 17:29.43 | akisam | somiaj: how do I configure it ? |
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| 17:30.46 | somiaj | akisam: I haven't used pulse, but pvaucontrol should give you a window you can do things like select what is the default sound card. Set volumnes (make sure things aren't muted), might even have a test button to ensure the sound is working |
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| 17:32.42 | transhuman | hi! how do i get a list of packages being held back? |
| 17:32.59 | Amun_Ra | ie: wajig hold |
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| 17:33.21 | Amun_Ra | dpkg -l|grep ^h |
| 17:33.21 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, Amun_Ra |
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| 17:33.47 | akisam | somiaj: it worked thanks a lot ! |
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| 17:35.38 | somiaj | transhuman: what do you mean by held back. There are various things that could mean. |
| 17:36.41 | transhuman | I have packages that wont install because some packages are labeled as held back . I want to see if i can remove the holds and then do an apt-get upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade...if that makes sense |
| 17:37.21 | petn-randall | !bat |
| 17:37.21 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 17:37.31 | petn-randall | transhuman: ^^^^ |
| 17:37.48 | transhuman | would i be better addressing this on debian-next? |
| 17:38.00 | transhuman | its on oftc? right? |
| 17:38.30 | jelly | !held |
| 17:38.30 | dpkg | Packages currently on <hold> can be listed with «dpkg --get-selections | grep 'hold$'» (on hold for apt-get), or «aptitude search ~ahold» (on hold for aptitude). See also <unhold>. |
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| 17:38.46 | transhuman | thanks jelly |
| 17:38.46 | petn-randall | transhuman: If you're running testing or sid, yes. If you're running stable, you should stay here. |
| 17:38.58 | transhuman | ok thanks |
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| 17:39.53 | somiaj | transhuman: note #debian-next is on a different irc network, irc.oftc.net |
| 17:40.24 | transhuman | ok thanks I just didnt remember what server it was on |
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| 17:41.04 | somiaj | transhuman: well just connect to irc.debian.net in the future. (: |
| 17:41.21 | transhuman | ok thanks |
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| 17:44.11 | vladimirdvorak | hello guys.... do you please know if any Cloud Encryption Gateway exist for linux? I mean ...something which will encrypt data going to upstream cloud (i.e. amazon s3 or dropbox) |
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| 17:46.02 | petn-randall | vladimirdvorak: You can just have a file as block device and upload that to the "cloud". |
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| 17:49.29 | vladimirdvorak | petn-randall, thanks ... maybe you are right ... do you have some guide how to configure it or any article where can i read something about your idea? |
| 17:50.11 | markybob | vladimirdvorak, http://www.howtogeek.com/121737/how-to-encrypt-cloud-storage-on-linux-and-windows-with-encfs/ |
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| 17:50.46 | vladimirdvorak | markybob, many thanks ... i will read it now |
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| 17:52.26 | vladimirdvorak | markybob, seems to be it :) |
| 17:52.32 | vladimirdvorak | markybob, thank you! |
| 17:52.40 | markybob | vladimirdvorak, you're welcome |
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| 17:59.30 | jaggzt | full-screening a youtube video used to expand it to the active display (where the browser window was).. now it's jumping over to my primary.. and it doesn't go full screen anymore.. it sort of does a letter-box looking thing |
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| 18:02.43 | otyugh | heya. Who knows about vdpau and mplayer subitiles ? I'm pretty much stuck there :s |
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| 18:04.56 | otyugh | well wheezy under a olinuxino device, using mplayer2 -vo vdpau, no problem with vids in 1080p, but no subtitles at all shows. Using vx as output driver it works, but its an heavy CPU load that succeed running only on ridiculous resolutions. |
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| 18:13.05 | jaggzt | looks like it's an individual site thing |
| 18:13.09 | jaggzt | https://gooseberry.blender.org/cosmos-laundromat-first-cycle/ |
| 18:13.24 | jaggzt | blender's page doesn't show the video right, when expanded, but if you click to go to youtube, youtube's will full-screen properly |
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| 19:12.52 | chomwitt | has anyone tryed novena laptop? i cant find a review on how well debian runs on it |
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| 19:15.22 | Guest62247 | Hello everybody! I kindly ask for your help as I couldn't find a solution elsewhere! I'm on Debian Testing and I'm trying "aptitude full-upgrade" which (this time) would basically remove my whole desktop (gnome, gdm3, and many more). I already tried "aptitude keep-all" but to no avail. "aptitude safe-upgrade" worked fine but I still have lots of packages that I only seem to be able to upgrade via "full-upgrade". Is there anything els |
| 19:15.24 | Guest62247 | e I could try besides "keep-all" to resolve conflicts like this? |
| 19:16.34 | fennesz | Hello! is there a way I can start python IDLE in a default directory? I am using Debian 8 |
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| 19:20.42 | babilen | Guest62247: The libstdc++ transition is still in process and you might just want to wait a little longer. I would, however, not recommend to remove half your system as you might want to be able to still use your computer. Testing is also not supported here, but in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) |
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| 19:22.50 | Guest62247 | babilen: Thank you very much for that information, the thought of simply waiting did cross my mind, I will do that! ^-^ Also thanks for the channel info, I didn't know that! :] |
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| 19:24.51 | Guest62247 | babilen: Do you know by any chance if it might be necessary in the future to "undo" the "aptitude keep-all" setting? Say, if it is explicitely necessary to remove a package in order to upgrade another? I haven't found an answer to that either... |
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| 19:31.41 | babilen | Guest62247: aptitude's "keep-all" simply cancels all pending actions. There is nothing you'll have to do in the future to change that. By running that command you essentially reset aptitude to its "normal" state. |
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| 19:33.48 | Guest62247 | babilen: I see! Thank you kindly! :D |
| 19:34.17 | babilen | yw |
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| 19:41.41 | hassoon | hat|: YOU HEAR ME ? I LIVE HERE :@ |
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| 19:42.08 | hat| | no flood hassoon please |
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| 20:08.45 | spdrmn | hi. I'm having a dependency problem and I would like to know if there's an issue in stretch's repo, or if it's my install that's messed up. |
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| 20:09.29 | spdrmn | libproxy1 and libproxy1v5 conflict |
| 20:09.42 | spdrmn | so when I try to install libproxy1v5, apt wants to remove a bunch of stuff |
| 20:09.43 | somiaj | spdrmn: stretch is undergoing the gcc5 transition and seems to be extra broken today. |
| 20:09.56 | spdrmn | oh, I see. I wonder if that's the reason |
| 20:10.15 | somiaj | so if you install any of the new gcc5 packages they may remove any packages that are not yet compadable with the new gcc5 api |
| 20:10.42 | spdrmn | well, I really shouldn't have let it remove VLC yesterday =/ |
| 20:11.04 | somiaj | I expect stretch issues like this to be common for the next while, at least until the transition is finaly complete. |
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| 20:11.20 | spdrmn | should I try upgrading to sid? |
| 20:11.27 | spdrmn | or will that just make it worse? |
| 20:11.44 | somiaj | !gcc transition |
| 20:11.44 | dpkg | One of the biggest transitions ever undertaken in Debian: new versions of libstdc++/gcc require over 3000 source packages to be recompiled. Don't expect packages in sid to be installable; use testing instead. https://release.debian.org/transitions/html/libstdc++6.html (and if you didn't already know this, ask yourself if you should be using sid). |
| 20:12.06 | somiaj | oh that is a bit outdated, as the transition is now starting to hit stretch. |
| 20:13.13 | spdrmn | ok thanks |
| 20:13.26 | spdrmn | I guess I'll just wait and see if things sort themselves out later |
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| 20:13.45 | spdrmn | haven't done a fresh install in over 2 years, and really don't have the time =P |
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| 20:13.56 | somiaj | spdrmn: later may be 'weeks' (: |
| 20:13.56 | er4z0r | If I installed kernel-package apt-get wants to pull down 800M worth of stuff that to me looks nothign like kernel devtools |
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| 20:15.05 | spdrmn | that's fine. the install is not really broken, I can still install some packages as needed |
| 20:15.23 | spdrmn | if I need something else, I'll probably just try to build it |
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| 20:17.47 | babilen | spdrmn: You might also be interested in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (aka irc.debian.org) where we support testing and unstable |
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| 20:20.02 | spdrmn | sure, I'll drop by sometime, thanks |
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| 20:25.33 | bxx | How to find out the real device used by /dev/dm-0 ? |
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| 20:27.49 | spdrmn | bxx: man 8 lvm |
| 20:28.51 | bxx | spdrmn: actually it's a LUKS volume and I'm not looking for man usage, thank you |
| 20:29.50 | spdrmn | you're welcome. |
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| 20:32.30 | bxx | What I'm looking for is way to correlate dev mapper device to the underlying device with procfs or sysfs |
| 20:32.33 | Amun_Ra | albo it should be visible via lsblk but I can't test it right now |
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| 20:51.20 | netsca | So any testing users on here? If so how's the gcc5 migration going? |
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| 20:52.39 | welpo | How can I modify the ssh settings for a particular user? I don't have root access in this server and I'd like to disable password login (only accept keys) for SSH. i.e. can I create a user-specific sshd_config or otherwise disable the password login just for that user? |
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| 20:56.44 | spdrmn | you'll have to ask the admin, welpo |
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| 20:57.11 | welpo | aw. I thought it might be possible, since I can add keys and whatnot in my ~/.ssh |
| 20:57.56 | welpo | Thanks anyway |
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| 20:58.07 | spdrmn | no problem |
| 20:59.38 | spdrmn | to be clear, the admin can do exactly what you want (i.e. disable password auth only for you) |
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| 21:00.08 | welpo | Yeah yeah I've found info about how to do that, I was just wondering if it was possible to do it as a user |
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| 21:08.40 | frenda | Debian = deb + ian |
| 21:08.58 | frenda | ian = Ian Murdock |
| 21:09.01 | frenda | deb = ? |
| 21:09.23 | markybob | frenda, his wife. debrah...iirc |
| 21:09.41 | frenda | Ah, cool |
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| 21:18.37 | onelove | hello guys. i have windows 8.1 on my pc, and now i'm installing debian by partioning the empty space on my hard disk (800GB) |
| 21:18.49 | onelove | is putting debian after windows something that works? |
| 21:18.55 | onelove | or will the debian bootloader fuck shit up? |
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| 21:19.01 | onelove | and then i will be unable to boot windows? |
| 21:19.14 | markybob | onelove, that's how you should do it |
| 21:19.25 | onelove | oh really. linux after windows? |
| 21:19.27 | onelove | that's good. |
| 21:19.31 | onelove | and what should i do with the bootloader? |
| 21:19.48 | onelove | how will grub now that that partition is a windows install |
| 21:19.49 | onelove | ? |
| 21:19.51 | onelove | *know |
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| 21:20.16 | markybob | onelove, at the end of the install it'll detect it and ask you to install grub. say yes |
| 21:20.50 | markybob | onelove, it's that simple |
| 21:21.45 | spdrmn | doesn't the installer ask where to install grub anymore? |
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| 21:29.15 | onelove | ugh |
| 21:29.22 | onelove | i accidentally asked the installer to install gnome |
| 21:29.26 | onelove | which i don't need |
| 21:29.30 | onelove | and now it takes 30mins extra!!! |
| 21:29.35 | onelove | is there a way to cancel this step? |
| 21:29.41 | onelove | the "Select and install software" step |
| 21:29.48 | onelove | so that i don't wait till it finishes and then repartition"?| |
| 21:29.52 | onelove | please tell me there is! |
| 21:30.49 | netsca | No you'll have to remove it when debian is installed |
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| 21:31.08 | onelove | lol i kill(1)ed it. |
| 21:31.11 | onelove | i killed apt-get |
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| 21:31.22 | netsca | It shouldn't be that hard as long as you set important things to manually instaled |
| 21:31.23 | onelove | the installer didn't like it. |
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| 21:31.29 | onelove | ls |
| 21:31.41 | markybob | onelove, well...that was a bad move |
| 21:31.41 | netsca | Please tell me you didn't force reboot |
| 21:31.56 | netsca | Your windows install is probably fucked |
| 21:32.00 | markybob | onelove, aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2 was all you needed to do |
| 21:32.31 | onelove | i think it should be fine |
| 21:32.38 | onelove | but i need to restart the installation |
| 21:32.44 | onelove | but the bootloader was not installed yet. so whatever. |
| 21:32.54 | netsca | It's fucked |
| 21:32.54 | onelove | got a bit yolo there... |
| 21:33.07 | onelove | by what? |
| 21:33.13 | onelove | why are you saying this ? :) |
| 21:33.16 | onelove | ehm :( |
| 21:33.24 | onelove | it was just installing shit on the partitions it made on empty space. |
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| 21:33.33 | onelove | i didn't cut it at a sensitive step. |
| 21:33.37 | netsca | Oh so it didn't touch the windows partition |
| 21:33.44 | onelove | hope not bro |
| 21:33.52 | netsca | It might no be fucked |
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| 21:50.42 | marc0s | hi, i'm using testing and would like to find some information on the status of the libstdc++ transition to v5, because i just upgraded today and have lots of stuff removed/broken... just want to get some info, i now know i should have just said 'n' to the upgrade prompt :) |
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| 21:54.44 | ctmjr | marc0s: they might have some info in #debian-next on the oftc network |
| 21:55.00 | ctmjr | !debian-next |
| 21:55.01 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. |
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| 21:59.13 | sailcat | hi. are the debian 8.2 iso's not available for download yet, or am i doing something wrong? |
| 21:59.41 | markybob | sailcat, in progress still |
| 21:59.52 | marc0s | ctmjr: thanks! |
| 22:00.00 | sailcat | markybob, ok, ty. |
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| 22:30.37 | darius93 | what are the pros of using ubuntu over debian and vise versa? |
| 22:31.37 | somiaj | darius93: I would say the big difference is philosophy/policy on what makes a release and thus speed of releases. |
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| 22:33.30 | somiaj | darius93: debian makes sure that only free software goes into main (and thus things taht require non-free firmware or non-free drivers are not installed by default). The other major difference is what debian calls a stable release, as debian goes though far more testing and has a far more frozen system for a stable release which as a side effect only gets released once every few years and during that time only security/bug fixes are updated. |
| 22:33.55 | somiaj | darius93: so add what ever list of pros/cons you like from that. |
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| 22:44.32 | pron | atm have weird problem with fresj jessie install |
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| 22:44.39 | pron | on raid5 mdraid and lvm |
| 22:44.45 | pron | it doesnt boot :| |
| 22:44.56 | nostrora | Hello, my debian 8.1 netinstall fail @ 95% :( it stuck on Running dpkg. do you know why ? |
| 22:44.59 | MeatPopsicle | If I install Steam under PlayOnLinux will I be able to install any of my windows games from it? Currently dualbooting but would rather not I want full Debian |
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| 22:45.38 | pron | nostrora: there can be some extra info in /var/log/syslog |
| 22:45.52 | nostrora | pron: how can i access to /var/log/syslog ? |
| 22:46.15 | pron | nostrora: you have phisical access to that pc? |
| 22:46.23 | nostrora | no, i'm on idrac* |
| 22:46.35 | pron | ah it wil work to alt+f2 |
| 22:46.39 | pron | if i recall correctly |
| 22:46.49 | pron | shoulda siwtch you to other console |
| 22:46.50 | nostrora | i need tty2 right ? |
| 22:46.55 | pron | aye |
| 22:47.02 | nostrora | pron: ok. wait ;) thanks you |
| 22:47.15 | pron | uw |
| 22:47.43 | darius93 | Understanding somiaj. I've only used debian once long time ago (6.0) and right now considering using it again for a production server (since im not to happy with ubuntu updating the kernel from 3.13 another) |
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| 22:48.01 | MeatPopsicle | If I install Steam under PlayOnLinux will I be able to install any of my windows games from it? Currently dualbooting but would rather not I want full Debian |
| 22:48.41 | pron | so, as far i understand jessie should be able to boot from lvm on raid5 mdraid? |
| 22:48.49 | nostrora | mhh.. now the install process are good. the install process works.. an some it dosnt :o |
| 22:48.49 | darius93 | MeatPopsicle, not everyone of them will work but some should work fine |
| 22:49.08 | nostrora | sometime install work, and sometime not :( |
| 22:49.35 | MeatPopsicle | darius93 but I can install them like normal? Just some will work and some not? |
| 22:49.38 | pron | nostrora: maybe some network issues? |
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| 22:50.06 | pron | nostrora: try to tail -f syslog while installing , to get more clues |
| 22:50.07 | nostrora | pron: install fail in (Install the base system). so is not a network issue ? |
| 22:50.21 | darius93 | MeatPopsicle, yea you should be able to install them from the steam client, but PoL uses wine and some games may or may not run like it would on windows |
| 22:51.02 | pron | nostrora: i made once partitions in megabytes instead of gigabytes |
| 22:51.10 | pron | nostrora: had same issue :D |
| 22:51.16 | uzumaki_naruto | hi i just configure openvpn and its is not connecting can any one help me please thanks |
| 22:51.34 | MeatPopsicle | darius93 I was just making sure I could install from steam instead of DL'ing .exe installers, I will look up compatibility on a case by case basis |
| 22:51.47 | MeatPopsicle | darius 93 thank you for your help |
| 22:51.52 | nostrora | pron: thanks :) and where is netinstall of 8.2.0 ? |
| 22:51.54 | darius93 | no prob |
| 22:53.11 | pron | nostrora: its 404 for me , idk : |
| 22:53.23 | uzumaki_naruto | hello darius93 can you help me with openvpn |
| 22:53.32 | nostrora | pron: for me too. :( |
| 22:53.40 | pron | :< |
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| 22:54.13 | jmcnaught | using the 8.1 netinst is fine, it will upgrade any packages it needs to |
| 22:54.35 | pron | nostrora: there was nothing in syslog? |
| 22:54.37 | darius93 | uzumaki_naruto, dont ask to ask :P if you state your problem im sure someone would try to help too |
| 22:54.53 | nostrora | pron: install work for this time :( i check with RAID1 configuration |
| 22:55.08 | pron | hmm |
| 22:55.14 | pron | lucky u :P |
| 22:55.18 | uzumaki_naruto | so darius93 would you help me |
| 22:55.19 | pron | i wish my install did work |
| 22:55.24 | pron | crie sin corner |
| 22:55.25 | nostrora | no :p i'm lucky only if install work for each time |
| 22:55.35 | darius93 | uzumaki_naruto, what issues are you having exactly |
| 22:55.47 | nostrora | install sometimes works and sometimes don't works is very bad for me :( |
| 22:55.56 | nostrora | and frustrating |
| 22:56.09 | uzumaki_naruto | i install openvpn and it is not connecting |
| 22:56.20 | pron | okay, i have a plan |
| 22:56.24 | nostrora | uzumaki_naruto: open your ports :') |
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| 22:56.40 | uzumaki_naruto | yes |
| 22:57.01 | nostrora | uzumaki_naruto: can you give us more informations about your problem ? |
| 22:59.21 | uzumaki_naruto | will the ivpn i configure from steps given in blackmore website and every steps gone smoothly but when i try to connect its is not working |
| 23:01.12 | uzumaki_naruto | nostrora: it shows activation of a network faild |
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| 23:06.38 | pron | okay , i have a new question |
| 23:06.56 | pron | does debin grub support 1.2 version of md raid metadata? |
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| 23:24.26 | nostrora | pron: Hey :) install is bugger now. what i have to do ? |
| 23:24.59 | nostrora | bugged* |
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| 23:26.02 | jmcnaught | nostrora: is the issue that the installation stalls at some point? can you access tty4 to see the detailed messages? |
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| 23:28.05 | nostrora | jmcnaught: Yes i can. install stuck on 'Unpacking linux-image-3.16.0-4' |
| 23:28.23 | nostrora | sometimes it's work and sometimes not |
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| 23:45.45 | pron | jmcnaught: are there any known issues with that installer related to lvm/mdraid/grub? |
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| 23:56.24 | jmcnaught | pron: there might be some issues, anything major would have prevent release. it has worked for me for years. maybe it's time to review the install manual? there's a section on partitioning, and an appendix with more details |
| 23:56.47 | jmcnaught | pron: i'm not sure exactly the issue you're having really |
| 23:57.34 | pron | jmcnaught: lvm on top pf md raid5 |
| 23:57.50 | pron | goes stright to grub rescue for me |
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| 23:58.41 | jmcnaught | pron: is this maybe not the GRUB that you just installed, but one left on a disk previously used? |
| 23:59.10 | pron | i did install it |
| 23:59.21 | pron | and i aven did reinstall it manualy |
| 23:59.23 | pron | on all 4 disks |
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