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| 00:05.43 | Epakai | you have to shrink the filesystem, then you can shrink the lv |
| 00:06.29 | Pegasus_RPG | Writing aids show Hunspell is checked |
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| 00:08.08 | serotonintuna | how do I update gparted to the latest version? even sid doesnt have the new one |
| 00:08.12 | serotonintuna | im on stable |
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| 00:08.58 | Pegasus_RPG | KWrite's spell checking is working. |
| 00:09.04 | Pegasus_RPG | Where else can I look? |
| 00:09.16 | Pegasus_RPG | serotonintuna: build from source? |
| 00:09.29 | BogeymanAgnostic | serotonintuna: debian packages undergo extensive testing before being released in stable |
| 00:09.54 | serotonintuna | im trying to resize my encrypted partition but this version of gparted is too old, i wanna see if the new one has support |
| 00:10.01 | BogeymanAgnostic | serotonintuna: so the packages in stable are usually older |
| 00:10.28 | serotonintuna | i think im gonna burn the gparted iso to my usb and do it that way |
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| 00:15.18 | csa | Hi guys, I just got a simple question and I'd be awesome if someone could help me please - how to list the current partitions and hwo to expand them? |
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| 00:17.20 | Pegasus_RPG | csa |
| 00:17.25 | Pegasus_RPG | csa: gparted |
| 00:17.35 | csa | connected via ssh |
| 00:17.54 | Pegasus_RPG | csa: cfdisk can show them in a nice menu style |
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| 00:18.20 | aaro | csa: also parted |
| 00:18.26 | Pegasus_RPG | Someone else will have to offer a tool for expansion though |
| 00:18.33 | Pegasus_RPG | ah right |
| 00:19.52 | orion_ | All Debian must be aware of the latest backdoors developed by NSA and GCHQ, your Debian system might already be compromised, checkout this video -> https://2ch.hk/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm |
| 00:20.42 | csa | seems to be legit |
| 00:20.45 | csa | not |
| 00:20.45 | csa | lel |
| 00:20.56 | csa | aaro: I have to expand sda3 |
| 00:21.25 | jmcnaught | csa: have you done a backup first? |
| 00:21.31 | csa | no |
| 00:22.15 | jmcnaught | csa: you need to do that first or risk losing it all. it's also important that you verify that you can restore from the backup. |
| 00:22.58 | csa | the data isn't that important |
| 00:27.22 | jmcnaught | csa: okay. you'll probably need to consult the parted documentation for how to resize the partition. next time you install you should consider using LVM which makes resizing a little easier and has some other nifty features. |
| 00:27.36 | csa | ok |
| 00:27.50 | csa | i think I used LVM |
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| 00:28.22 | orion_ | All Debian must be aware of the latest backdoors developed by NSA and GCHQ, your Debian system might already be compromised, checkout -> https://2ch.hk/b/src/101509782/14417533733020.webm |
| 00:28.22 | csa | I just have to expand the partiton because my virtual hard drive got resized |
| 00:28.59 | jmcnaught | csa: is the partition an LVM physical volume? |
| 00:29.25 | csa | how to check that - but I think I checked it during the installation |
| 00:29.27 | csa | i'm nto sure |
| 00:29.30 | csa | *not |
| 00:29.56 | jmcnaught | csa: does the command "lvs" list any logical volumes? |
| 00:30.07 | csa | no |
| 00:30.13 | csa | ok then not |
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| 00:30.46 | jmcnaught | csa: did it say command not found? you need to run "lvs" as root |
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| 00:30.56 | csa | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:32.00 | jmcnaught | csa: best to read the parted documentation for how to use it then, and ask here if you run into trouble or want a peer-review before you pull the trigger |
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| 00:41.38 | Chocolate_Chip | I forgot who it was, but whoever it was my tox ID changed |
| 00:41.41 | csa | it should be parted check; parted resize |
| 00:41.53 | csa | jmcnaught: |
| 00:41.54 | Chocolate_Chip | Re add me at chocolatechip@toxme.se |
| 00:41.56 | Chocolate_Chip | Please |
| 00:42.02 | Chocolate_Chip | Whoever added me. I forgot |
| 00:42.35 | jmcnaught | csa: i'm not really that familiar with parted sorry, but if you ask a detailed question someone may be able to help you. |
| 00:42.42 | Chocolate_Chip | err... chocolatechip@toxme.io |
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| 00:43.23 | csa | I'll ask a friend of mine tomorrow |
| 00:43.26 | csa | but well thx |
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| 01:14.33 | Lezimist | Apparently #debian is sexist |
| 01:14.40 | Lezimist | http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Debian_IRC_sexism |
| 01:14.41 | Lezimist | lol |
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| 01:17.07 | SparkySquirrel | How do I get /lib/modules/4.1.0-amd64/build? |
| 01:17.15 | SparkySquirrel | In Debian Testing |
| 01:18.36 | SparkySquirrel | /lib/modules/4.1.0-1-amd64/build , I mean |
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| 01:18.48 | nebg | hello everyone... |
| 01:18.55 | nebg | i have a jessie testing.. |
| 01:19.04 | nebg | i yesterday did an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:19.18 | nebg | but now vlc gives me segmentation fault when i try to run it |
| 01:19.21 | nebg | how can i solve this ? |
| 01:19.25 | themill | SparkySquirrel: install the headers and kbuild packages for your kernel |
| 01:19.30 | nebg | already tried to reinstall it... |
| 01:19.31 | nebg | :( |
| 01:19.34 | SparkySquirrel | themill: ok |
| 01:19.54 | themill | nebg: do you have jessie or testing? |
| 01:20.14 | nebg | testing |
| 01:20.38 | dvs | nebg: you have stretch |
| 01:20.48 | nebg | stretch ? |
| 01:20.57 | dvs | !stretch |
| 01:20.57 | dpkg | The release following Debian 8 "Jessie" is codenamed "Stretch" (the rubber octopus in Toy Story 3) and will be Debian 9: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2014/11/msg00005.html. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianStretch |
| 01:21.12 | nebg | ohh ok thank for the info... |
| 01:21.17 | nebg | but vlc doesn't work :( |
| 01:21.21 | nebg | anymore |
| 01:21.26 | themill | That's hardly surprising |
| 01:21.34 | nebg | themill, why ? |
| 01:21.47 | themill | because testing is undergoing a massive amount of churn atm |
| 01:22.11 | nebg | themill, anyway i 'm making again the dist-upgrade |
| 01:22.17 | nebg | hoping to solve something |
| 01:23.24 | SparkySquirrel | themill: I installed the kernel headers and kbuild packages for Linux 4.1.0-1-amd64 but still no /lib/modules/4.1.0-1-amd64/build |
| 01:24.05 | SparkySquirrel | themill: what package are those files included in? |
| 01:25.02 | themill | that should be in linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 01:25.19 | SparkySquirrel | let me try |
| 01:25.46 | themill | also, it will be /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/build not the path you quoted earlier |
| 01:26.31 | themill | ,file /lib/modules/4.1.0-2-amd64/build --release stretch |
| 01:26.34 | judd | Search for /lib/modules/4.1.0-2-amd64/build in stretch/amd64: linux-headers-4.1.0-2-amd64: lib/modules/4.1.0-2-amd64/build |
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| 01:32.35 | themill | SparkySquirrel: it looks like you've got a pending kernel upgrade too |
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| 01:40.24 | teamcoltra | I know this isn't a debian question but if someone is around maybe they can point me in the right direction... does anyone know what the "artifacts" are called when a file is not properly converted to UTF8? |
| 01:41.31 | teamcoltra | I have thousands of documents full of charaters getting converted oddly like "Publisherââ¬â¢s Note" instead of "Publisher's Note" and I would like to correct them all but am not even sure where to start |
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| 02:10.16 | krzee | i am trying to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy and am having a problem when it tries to install startpart |
| 02:10.21 | krzee | startpar* |
| 02:11.09 | krzee | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/16552ad3dfd3ad505cb9 |
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| 02:28.52 | woh3 | Hi all, so I have installed debian 8.2.0 on a Cenovo 64-bit quadcore Mini pc1 (a "tv box") and it runs well, except I cant get sound or wireless working, I think they are baytrail chipset, any have any pointers to help me get them running? |
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| 02:32.29 | markybob | woh3, what's the chipset? |
| 02:32.42 | woh3 | baytrail |
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| 02:34.04 | markybob | woh3... don't think so |
| 02:34.19 | woh3 | whats the best way to find out? |
| 02:34.29 | markybob | woh3, lspci probably |
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| 02:37.55 | woh3 | markybob, http://pastebin.com/nRAX7p6D |
| 02:38.28 | markybob | woh3, why didn't you paste the entire thing? |
| 02:38.38 | woh3 | that was the entire thing |
| 02:40.28 | markybob | woh3, doesn't list a wireless card |
| 02:41.02 | woh3 | remember this is a "tv box" mini pc, you can view it here http://www.gearbest.com/tv-box-mini-pc/pp_187681.html |
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| 02:44.07 | markybob | woh3, if i was to guess...i can't find what wireless chipset that uses...install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 02:44.17 | woh3 | it does have sound and wireless, sound is through the hdmi, and wireless works under android |
| 02:44.46 | woh3 | is that a debian package? |
| 02:44.51 | markybob | woh3, yes |
| 02:44.58 | markybob | woh3, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-iwlwifi |
| 02:45.20 | woh3 | coming down through apt now |
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| 02:45.44 | woh3 | will be back |
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| 02:50.01 | markybob | woh3, yay or nay? |
| 02:50.25 | woh3 | nay, I did a paste of dmesg, http://pastebin.com/GYQ0Rb81 |
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| 02:54.44 | markybob | woh3, looks like you have more problems...but i have no cenovo experience so i'll step away and hopefully someone will jump in |
| 02:55.39 | woh3 | yeah, not ideal, worst thing was i wiped android off, and now cant get it to install back on |
| 02:55.51 | markybob | woh3, you might want to try the main channel on OFTC |
| 02:56.13 | woh3 | main debian channel? |
| 02:56.19 | markybob | woh3, yes |
| 02:56.32 | woh3 | not sure what oftc is, is that another network? |
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| 02:57.05 | markybob | woh3, yes. irc.oftc.net. https://wiki.debian.org/IRC/#Debian_IRC_channels |
| 02:57.22 | woh3 | hmm, ok |
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| 03:27.10 | asarch | How do you turn off the wireless device using GNOME? |
| 03:27.25 | asarch | Oh, nevermind |
| 03:27.28 | asarch | It worked |
| 03:27.32 | asarch | Thank you :-) |
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| 03:34.38 | Atm0spher1c | is it possible to install 32 bit packages and keep the 64 bit as well? I noticed for certain packages it will remove the 64 bit, and other times you can have both. Is that correct? |
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| 03:37.04 | netsca | I'm not aware of any way. Although i've never needed to. |
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| 03:40.54 | netsca | Although |
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| 03:41.22 | netsca | Look at this https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch |
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| 03:42.01 | netsca | I had to install some i386 libraries when I instaled steam. Had to enable multiarch to do so |
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| 03:42.50 | netsca | Ther is a #multiarch channel on irc.debian.org you may have better luck there |
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| 03:45.44 | Atm0spher1c | netsca: thanks. yes I already have it enabled, just wondering if its correct behavior that some 64 and 32 bit packages can coexist and others cannot. I'll check it out there. On oftc now too |
| 03:46.10 | gefdecue | Im using wicd and it doesnt reconnect on list connection, altough the box is checked. any clue? |
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| 03:52.10 | netsca | I don't use wicd. So I wouldn't be ablt to help with that |
| 03:54.50 | netsca | gefdecue Do you mean it doesn't automatically connect when you startup the pc? |
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| 03:55.59 | gefdecue | no , i mean the wicd doesnt reconnect when connection drops. i need to do it manually |
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| 03:58.54 | netsca | Why does the connection drop? |
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| 03:59.52 | netsca | Sometimes with networkmanager an an intel wireless card the wifi card just sorta turns off no wireless netwprk list at all could this be related |
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| 04:05.13 | gefdecue | netsca: weak signal. its normal to drop at times. however, why it doesnt auto reconnect like before? |
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| 04:24.40 | gefdecue | c |
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| 04:31.37 | netsca | Is there a security and or stability risk involved with installing programs from backports on jessie |
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| 04:36.17 | labelle | I appreciate if someone could help me figure something out. Is there a way to burn Debian Live to a USB drive partition, instead of the whole drive? As in instead of cp debian-live.iso /dev/sdX, doing cp debian-live.iso /dev/sdXY, or dd if=debial-live.iso of=/dev/sdXY? (being X the letter of the drive assigned and Y the partition number) |
| 04:36.53 | netsca | labelle I think you'd have to set a bootloader on the USB drive itself |
| 04:37.16 | netsca | set>> set up |
| 04:38.11 | labelle | I see. And is there a guide somewhere to help me burn debian-live and debian-netinst in the same drive, setting up this bootloader? |
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| 04:38.48 | netsca | Hmmm let make do a search |
| 04:39.21 | labelle | Thank you, netsca, I appreciate it |
| 04:39.26 | netsca | You could try this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ |
| 04:39.46 | labelle | Isn`t yumi only for windows? |
| 04:39.46 | netsca | Just back up your data from the usb drive |
| 04:40.43 | netsca | There is a linux based yumi downloads near the downloads on that page |
| 04:40.51 | labelle | I see. Thank you! |
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| 05:03.01 | CooloutAC | whats the best way to disable a service in debian |
| 05:03.13 | DrakkenWarr | kill the process |
| 05:03.19 | DrakkenWarr | what are you trying to do CooloutAC? |
| 05:03.32 | CooloutAC | disable a service |
| 05:03.37 | CooloutAC | avahi-daemon |
| 05:03.38 | DrakkenWarr | what service |
| 05:03.54 | DrakkenWarr | uninstall it then |
| 05:04.06 | DrakkenWarr | uneless you need for your DE or WM |
| 05:04.07 | CooloutAC | how do I just disable it |
| 05:04.18 | netsca | "sudo systemctl disable avahi-daemon" maybe |
| 05:04.27 | netsca | It might be under a different name though |
| 05:04.31 | DrakkenWarr | that should work netsca |
| 05:04.33 | CooloutAC | oh that works in debian? |
| 05:04.43 | DrakkenWarr | aye it is all systemd now |
| 05:04.55 | CooloutAC | oh i forgot |
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| 05:05.09 | DrakkenWarr | no worries CooloutAC |
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| 06:18.19 | hid3 | Hello. This night the cron daemon died while performing cron.weekly jobs. This was NEVER the case before I upgraded to Debian 8 w/ systemd. How do I stop such behaviour??? |
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| 07:18.46 | jaggzes | why can't I find jive, valspeak, etc. in debian's packages, hmm? |
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| 07:28.43 | rozie | jaggzes: is this free software? if so, probably no maintainer for this packages |
| 07:29.29 | jaggzes | yeah.. gnu |
| 07:29.31 | jaggzes | http://www.hyperrealm.com/main.php?s=talkfilters |
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| 07:34.04 | Filystyn | hello i need help |
| 07:34.22 | Filystyn | something very strange is happening and i have no idea how i should even start solving this problem |
| 07:34.58 | Filystyn | im using mause now but if i touch my touchpad in laptop everything is immediatly closed and |
| 07:35.08 | Filystyn | i get the log in |
| 07:35.19 | Filystyn | so i have to log and open everything again |
| 07:35.30 | Filystyn | open all programs from start etc |
| 07:35.32 | Filystyn | wth? |
| 07:36.25 | DominikB | Filystyn, maybe you have your touchmaped map to the logout shoutcut in someway |
| 07:36.39 | Filystyn | how is it possible i did not do anything |
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| 07:37.02 | Filystyn | one more thing doe snot work also |
| 07:37.08 | Filystyn | but im not sure it's related |
| 07:37.21 | Filystyn | it should not be but both things started at same time |
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| 08:00.02 | g00se | Filystyn: I often do sudo modprobe -rv psmouse when i want to disable my touchpad |
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| 08:08.48 | g00se | Also check your X error log |
| 08:09.27 | Filystyn | how do i check the x error log? |
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| 08:11.25 | Filystyn | HOW THE FUCK IS IT POSSIBLE touching a touchpad fucking 'resets' my computer |
| 08:11.28 | Filystyn | all programs locked |
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| 08:11.32 | Filystyn | exit and here |
| 08:11.35 | Filystyn | log fucking aqgain |
| 08:11.45 | Filystyn | i did not have such retarded problems even on windows.. |
| 08:12.07 | Filystyn | It might be fault o computer it self but i do not know where to start |
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| 08:12.16 | Filystyn | where is that x log to see it... |
| 08:12.49 | g00se | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 08:13.45 | g00se | See my previous as well (disable touchpad when you've got a mouse) |
| 08:14.09 | Filystyn | dude. I am used to use touchpad. |
| 08:14.21 | g00se | It's just a workaround |
| 08:14.24 | Filystyn | ok. |
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| 08:14.48 | Filystyn | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12364527/ |
| 08:14.54 | Filystyn | now illl try in meanwhile disable it... |
| 08:15.04 | g00se | finds it annoying when accidentally touching the touchpad switches his desktop |
| 08:16.39 | g00se | That log is probably OK |
| 08:16.49 | Filystyn | disabled it |
| 08:17.01 | Filystyn | it doe snot causes that idiot behavor now |
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| 08:17.13 | Filystyn | i did some actualisation yesterday |
| 08:17.31 | Filystyn | but not sure it started just after doing it. |
| 08:17.42 | g00se | I don't know what that means |
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| 08:18.08 | Filystyn | update |
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| 08:18.36 | Filystyn | i did update yesterday. |
| 08:19.02 | Filystyn | when it started. but i can't sa it happened just after that since i was doing lot's of stuff. |
| 08:19.11 | Filystyn | Just for uture hwo to turn touchpad back? |
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| 08:20.29 | g00se | Remove the 'r' from the command. Actually i've never tried to get it back again |
| 08:21.54 | g00se | I just put it in a script i call 'touchdown' |
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| 08:22.42 | slept | I am planing on buying a wifi card, so far i have used intel hw which was good... But I need the card to be usb or pci, I have found a lot of cards using ath9 - so far I am not sure if this would be a good pick? Can anyone confirm this? |
| 08:23.04 | Filystyn | this does not solv my problem but thank you. |
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| 08:23.15 | edoardo | hi everyone |
| 08:23.21 | edoardo | i'm using powertop on debian |
| 08:23.27 | edoardo | however, i have an issue |
| 08:23.33 | edoardo | how do i switch tab? :D |
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| 08:24.03 | g00se | Could be worth checking dmesg too |
| 08:24.52 | iamrohit7 | no matter what i do, i cant login to gnome on debian sid. i can login to flashback. i reinstalled the whole gnome package but i see a blank screen after selecting gnome in gdm3. |
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| 08:25.40 | iamrohit7 | i can use gnome from my usb drive on ubuntu just fine any help where to check for logs in debian ? |
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| 08:26.33 | g00se | ath9 is non-free but supported |
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| 08:29.20 | slept | g00se, any suggestion on a good (non-frustrating) free chipset? |
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| 08:29.42 | joker_89 | hi |
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| 08:29.58 | joker_89 | ¦ i am installing samba as a domain controller but i am having problems |
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| 08:31.04 | joker_89 | what does means? Failed to find record for SAMDOM1 in /var/lib/samba/private/secrets.ldb: No such object: (null): Have you provisioned the SAMDOM1 domain?] |
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| 08:31.31 | no_gravity | Where would you guys look to see if you can find out the CPU temperature and other temperatures of a machine? |
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| 08:33.30 | g00se | Not really. I mainly use laptops which doesn't really give me much leeway of choice |
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| 08:34.06 | dbast | no_gravity: i would install the package 'lm-sensors' and watch the values on command line with the command 'sensors' |
| 08:34.20 | slept | g00se, anything other than intel? |
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| 08:34.38 | no_gravity | dbast: its for a production server under heavy load, where i would prefer to not install anything. |
| 08:34.40 | g00se | I haven't had problems with ath9 |
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| 08:39.17 | iamrohit7 | no matter what i do, i cant login to gnome on debian sid. i can login to flashback. i reinstalled the whole gnome package but i see a blank screen after selecting gnome in gdm3. |
| 08:39.28 | iamrohit7 | i can use gnome from my usb drive on ubuntu just fine. where to check for logs in debian ? |
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| 08:40.27 | g00se | no_gravity: /proc/acpi/ibm/thermal |
| 08:40.52 | g00se | (Or something under /proc/acpi [ if you're using acpi]) |
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| 08:42.05 | netsca | Maybe slightly not related to Debian But is less better than more as in the commands/utilities? |
| 08:42.12 | no_gravity | g00se: that dir does not exist on that machine. even though the acpi command is available. also acpi -t and acpi -V do not spit out any temperatures. |
| 08:42.16 | slept | g00se, thanks |
| 08:44.38 | netsca | Nevermind i'll just go to #bash or something |
| 08:44.43 | g00se | np |
| 08:45.09 | g00se | netsca: Yes |
| 08:45.32 | shay_shay | why do people still use bash |
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| 08:46.00 | iamrohit7 | shay_shay, because its bash |
| 08:46.15 | g00se | Because it's default? Because it's ubiquitous and therefore worth mastering? |
| 08:46.32 | no_gravity | On your machines that are under load, what kind of uptimes do you guys have? |
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| 08:46.58 | iamrohit7 | can anyone tell me where to look for logs gnome? |
| 08:47.08 | no_gravity | On a lamp server with 500000 monthly uniques, I have like an hour a month downtime and I fricking hate that. Even though thats about 99.9% uptime. |
| 08:48.11 | g00se | iamrohit7: Why are you surprised running Gnome on sid? |
| 08:48.14 | shay_shay | g00se: that's a silly reason. sounds like " if everybody jumps off a bridge then you should too" |
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| 08:48.59 | iamrohit7 | g00se: why not? |
| 08:49.21 | g00se | shay_shay: well when you get to a firefight on a strange machine, you might find it a problem that you only know a non-standard shell |
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| 08:49.54 | Filystyn | [ 2887.744] (EE) SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad: Read error 19 |
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| 08:49.59 | g00se | Err... because it's ... sid? |
| 08:50.32 | shay_shay | g00se: you can build non-standard shell without root... |
| 08:50.36 | g00se | Filystyn: Yes- not looking good |
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| 08:51.26 | g00se | And you'd do that on the broken firefighting machine? |
| 08:51.36 | iamrohit7 | g00se: because i neede some libs which are not yet in stable and i want to use a de too. |
| 08:51.47 | Filystyn | is there way to roll the updates back? |
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| 08:52.24 | g00se | Filystyn: And you're 100% certain the updates cause that? |
| 08:52.47 | Filystyn | yes it started yesterday and i updated yesterday |
| 08:52.51 | Filystyn | is there any update log |
| 08:52.58 | Filystyn | so i cna check if touchpad was 'updated' |
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| 08:53.04 | Filystyn | or what ever |
| 08:53.22 | iamrohit7 | yes, in var/apt/log or whatever |
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| 08:53.55 | g00se | You should probably start by finding out exactly what's driving it |
| 08:54.10 | Filystyn | var/apt/log <-- empty? |
| 08:54.32 | Filystyn | g00se im not so famirliar with linux ;-) so im tying to make it work atm |
| 08:55.02 | iamrohit7 | search around in var, you will find dpkg logs. |
| 08:55.05 | Filystyn | ok |
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| 08:56.21 | g00se | psmouse is involved mainly. Whether that only, i don't know |
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| 08:57.03 | Filystyn | ok var/log/apt |
| 08:57.12 | Filystyn | now i have lot's of them |
| 08:57.30 | Filystyn | like 20.. i want history log or term log? |
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| 08:57.51 | iamrohit7 | history 0 |
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| 08:59.22 | Filystyn | it's this http://paste.ubuntu.com/12364705/ |
| 09:00.34 | g00se | Filystyn: before you waste too much time, rule out a hardware error |
| 09:00.52 | Filystyn | ? |
| 09:01.04 | Filystyn | what do you mean me to do? |
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| 09:05.38 | g00se | Boot your laptop with a live distro and check out the touchpad in that |
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| 09:07.09 | Filystyn | accualy i tried to make update and it's going on now. |
| 09:08.07 | Filystyn | ok thx for help |
| 09:09.08 | g00se | Getting SystemRescueCD on stick is a Good Thing To Do ⢠anyway |
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| 09:12.18 | Filystyn | g00se thx for help |
| 09:12.26 | Filystyn | i tried to run newest updates |
| 09:12.30 | Filystyn | and it fixed the problem |
| 09:12.35 | g00se | np. |
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| 09:12.39 | Filystyn | i guess they fixed it in one day ;p |
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| 09:13.41 | g00se | That's odd. Don't speak too soon - you have kernel errors from that touchpad |
| 09:14.28 | Filystyn | well ok |
| 09:14.36 | Filystyn | but it works fine now ;-) |
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| 09:18.43 | joker_89 | how can i reinstall debian? |
| 09:19.19 | joker_89 | to clean up all my installations |
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| 09:32.31 | monod | Hello! I've used Debian in the past and I've been trying Fedora out for a time. I now need a suggestion for which of the two to install on a netbook. |
| 09:32.38 | monod | Any suggestions? |
| 09:32.44 | monod | Would one be better than the other on a netbook? (Not really, right?) |
| 09:32.50 | monod | (I expect very similar performances...) |
| 09:33.38 | g00se | monod: You don't think we'd be partial here? ;) |
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| 09:33.53 | monod | Hmm, yes of course |
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| 09:34.16 | g00se | I'm not biased - Fedora is the devil |
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| 09:34.41 | monod | Are there objective reason for preferring one over the other? Why are you saying Fedora=Devil? What makes you think so? |
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| 09:35.01 | g00se | It's bloat and it's Red Hat |
| 09:35.37 | monod | And what does that mean? What's wrong with Red Hat? |
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| 09:40.45 | monod | I guess I'll have to try for myself... |
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| 09:47.10 | otyugh | hey. I don't understand why I have a rpcbind port open publicly when I only need a nfs client |
| 09:47.20 | otyugh | (scanned using nmap) |
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| 09:47.49 | otyugh | usually when an app open a port, it's to serve something, as a nfs server, right ? |
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| 10:12.57 | rancyd | I either killed an apt-get process or it crashed - now i am left with a dpkg lockfile still. what is the safest way to resolve this? |
| 10:13.21 | rancyd | an apt-get upgrade process may have crashed/killed as well |
| 10:13.32 | nebg | it was a long time (1.5years) i was not doing an apt-get dist-upgrade, on a testing debian... do you think is it adviceable to run it ? |
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| 10:13.37 | nebg | or it will break my system ? |
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| 10:14.18 | nebg | sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/lock |
| 10:14.24 | nebg | sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock |
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| 10:15.28 | rancyd | nebg: this is safe? |
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| 10:21.30 | nebg | why not ? |
| 10:21.41 | nebg | why it shouldn't be ? |
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| 10:22.29 | Lurzino | hello everyone!!!!!!! :-))))))) |
| 10:22.55 | Lurzino | I have a little question on a weird thing... :-) |
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| 10:26.20 | rancyd | nebg: just being paranoid |
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| 10:31.46 | Lurzino | I have installed Debian 8.1 on a vps with lxde desktop and I have uploaded an application but when I try to execute it I obtain this: myuser@packer-debian-8-amd64:~$ ./myapp-linux32-online -bash: ./myapp-linux32-online: No such file or directory |
| 10:32.19 | Lurzino | and the application is present in the directory.... why this behavior? could I have missed something or some library to execute applications? |
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| 10:34.49 | g00se | ls -l ./myapp-linux32-online |
| 10:35.20 | DominikB | Lurzino, maybe inside your app you are missing something |
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| 10:37.36 | Lurzino | -rwxr-xr-x 1 myuser myuser 1437699 Mar 19 09:17 myapp-linux32-online |
| 10:37.44 | Lurzino | g00se, thats what I get with ls -l |
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| 10:38.07 | alexandernst | Is there a way I can check why tasksel is failing? (I'm trying to install gnome-desktop --new-install but it's failing with "apt-get failed (100)") |
| 10:38.13 | g00se | file ./myapp-linux32-online |
| 10:38.27 | rancyd | i am running an upgrade on my jessie workstation, and it has been setting up udev for over 15 minutes |
| 10:38.30 | rancyd | is this normal? |
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| 10:39.21 | Lurzino | g00se, ./myapp-linux32-online: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2, for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, not stripped |
| 10:39.49 | Lurzino | uhm my debian is x64... could depend from that? |
| 10:39.50 | nebg | hello everyone... when trying to dist-upgrade my debian testing, it arrives at a point where it tells me cycle dependency and the installer fails... |
| 10:39.57 | nebg | how can i correct these kind of problems ? |
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| 10:40.28 | g00se | Lurzino: Are you sure you've got the right architecture executable? |
| 10:40.44 | Lurzino | yes |
| 10:41.25 | g00se | Sorry - missed your comment. The answer is you're trying to run the wrong arch. (Or install multiarch) |
| 10:41.56 | g00se | !multiarch |
| 10:41.56 | Lurzino | so I have to install multiarch first |
| 10:41.56 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
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| 10:42.36 | g00se | Or get a 64 bit app |
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| 10:43.56 | Lurzino | g00se, to install multiarch I have just to do dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update ? |
| 10:45.23 | g00se | Lurzino: ^^ |
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| 10:46.27 | opalraava | hi all |
| 10:46.35 | opalraava | i installed gitweb with apt-get install gitweb |
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| 10:46.53 | opalraava | but it doesnt work and i can't find any documentation on how to set it up on debian |
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| 10:47.48 | g00se | !Doesn't work |
| 10:47.48 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 10:48.25 | opalraava | gitweb.conf is in conf-enabled, i restarted and when i surf to /gitweb i get 404 |
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| 10:50.00 | opalraava | i'm on jessie |
| 10:51.50 | g00se | I don't use it so can't help with that app. Looks like you have the wrong url |
| 10:51.54 | DominikB | opalraava, did you have php5-cgi? |
| 10:52.27 | opalraava | i think i do, i also have a mediawiki running on it |
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| 10:55.01 | opalraava | i installed php5-cgi, restarted apache2 and no joy, found a page tho that might help |
| 10:55.04 | Amun_Ra | opalraava: did you read sth like https://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-a-public-git-repository-on-a-debian-server |
| 10:55.59 | opalraava | ty, i'll follow that one |
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| 11:06.57 | matatataeee | pot |
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| 11:14.32 | Peio | so I'm having some issues since recent updates |
| 11:14.42 | Peio | I can only have sound in one program at a time apparently :/ |
| 11:14.46 | Peio | i'm on stretch |
| 11:14.50 | Peio | if anyone has an idea |
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| 11:16.54 | Waxhead | Peio: I had the same problem. Purging pulseaudio fixed everything for me :) .... however installing it fixed everything a bit later so you never know... |
| 11:17.15 | lesta | heh |
| 11:17.18 | Peio | the issue might be only with wine actually |
| 11:17.31 | Peio | maybe the version i'm using (with PoL) is too old or smth |
| 11:17.48 | Peio | I'm going to try with the system version |
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| 11:27.05 | opalraava | i no longer get a 404, but apache spits out the perl source of the gitweb.cgi instead of interpreting it... |
| 11:27.11 | Peio | yeah I got no sound in wine :/ |
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| 11:28.04 | unborn | Peio, I think there is wine channel or at least play on linux.. may be this would be much useful for you? |
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| 11:28.32 | Peio | yeah I'll look around thanks |
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| 11:37.49 | Lurzino | g00se, |
| 11:37.56 | Lurzino | I got back to 32bit and solved :-) |
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| 11:37.59 | Lurzino | thanks man |
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| 11:38.04 | g00se | np |
| 11:38.10 | Lurzino | see u around |
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| 11:39.27 | g00se | I'm getting password prompts for umount, despite it being NOPASSWD in sudoers. Why?? |
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| 11:41.01 | ZIPY | hi, i need to create a windows 10 usb from image..there used to be unetbootin in wheezy, what is the alternative in jessie? |
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| 11:41.26 | ZIPY | usually dd worked too, but seems to be different with windows 10 |
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| 11:43.59 | g00se | ZIPY: What does that horror have to do with Debian exactly? |
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| 11:44.45 | ZIPY | im asking for a usb boot creater tool in debian jessie |
| 11:45.07 | ZIPY | since they removed unetbootin |
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| 11:46.29 | g00se | Who's the victim? |
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| 11:51.56 | mrokita | hey guys |
| 11:52.18 | mrokita | A fast question, should i install Wheezy or Jessie on my VPS? |
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| 11:52.26 | mrokita | I've been using Wheezy for a long time |
| 11:52.31 | mrokita | is Jessie stable enough? |
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| 11:54.53 | g00se | jessie==stable |
| 11:55.54 | babilen | mrokita: Sure |
| 11:55.55 | g00se | (a fast answer ;)) |
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| 12:20.25 | no_gravity | Im trying to debug a strange Gnome bug. I have a directory mounted via sshfs. For a while all goes well. Then suddenly, no Gnome application can open files from that directory anymore. In the terminal its no problem. Also via Gnome as a different user is no problem. But one user just cannot open anything via Gnome from that directory anymore. Any ideas how to debug this? |
| 12:20.35 | fee3 | Is this the offical debian irc channel? |
| 12:21.05 | abrotman | does it matter? |
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| 12:21.39 | fee3 | can i have a answer? |
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| 12:21.53 | no_gravity | fee3: was it an official question? |
| 12:22.05 | fee3 | yes |
| 12:22.07 | fee3 | of course |
| 12:22.46 | no_gravity | i see |
| 12:22.47 | fee3 | is this the offical channel of debian.org? |
| 12:22.55 | no_gravity | i don't know |
| 12:23.21 | bazhang | check the topic fee3 |
| 12:23.32 | fee3 | there can be faked |
| 12:23.49 | bazhang | uh ok |
| 12:24.28 | DominikB | fee3, nope here is a windows coverup channel try to fool poor debian user |
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| 12:25.38 | rancyd | i have an `apt-get upgrade` running on a 'jessie' workstation is just hangs on 'setting up udev' |
| 12:26.05 | rancyd | anyone have any ideas how to fix this? |
| 12:26.36 | fee3 | i do not like sarcasm |
| 12:27.01 | bazhang | fee3, did you have an actual debian support issue |
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| 12:27.43 | fee3 | yes, if this channel is the offical chat channel from debian |
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| 12:28.05 | bazhang | fee3, for all intents and purposes it is |
| 12:28.08 | abrotman | fee3: Do you need help with your Debian installation? |
| 12:28.39 | fee3 | no, who need help with the installation? |
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| 12:30.33 | Rovanion | I got a process, thin, which is unable to create a pid in /var/run because it changes from root to the appropriate user before creating the pid. What should I do in this situation? |
| 12:30.44 | Rovanion | Use another folder for the pid? A subfolder in /var/run? |
| 12:31.18 | Rovanion | I got a tingeling sense that /var/run is cleared on every reboot. |
| 12:31.58 | Rovanion | Can I have systemd create the needed folder? |
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| 12:32.25 | armin | Rovanion: theoretically you could, it doesn't make sense though. |
| 12:32.37 | Rovanion | So what should I do then? |
| 12:32.38 | rancyd | fee: maybe i do? i was trying to run a apt-get update/apt-get upgrade today and now upgrade will not get past 'updating udev...' |
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| 12:33.17 | armin | Rovanion: thing is, systemd knows what state your daemon is in, if it still lives etc., so you don't need to build additional logic around that. |
| 12:33.49 | Rovanion | armin: According to systemd thin is running just fine, even though there are errors in the log. |
| 12:34.11 | armin | Rovanion: but yes, that's one of those cases the systemd people had to run into, and i was aware this would happen before systemd got introduced. |
| 12:34.27 | armin | Rovanion: see, that's why i hate systemd. |
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| 12:34.46 | Rovanion | armin: So systemd fails in recognising that thin is unable to create it's pid and sock. But just hating on systemd doesn't solve the problem I'm afraid. |
| 12:35.16 | armin | Rovanion: feel free to solve that problem on your own if that little rage was already too much for you. |
| 12:36.01 | Rovanion | armin: It wasn't my intention to disaud you. |
| 12:36.12 | armin | Rovanion: but really, i wouldn't create a lock file there because systemd would't just spawn multiple instances of a daemon, and for logging things again completely change if you're introducing journal. |
| 12:36.26 | armin | Rovanion: ok, cool. :) |
| 12:36.37 | rancyd | think i got it |
| 12:37.02 | Rovanion | armin: So what are you suggesting? |
| 12:37.13 | armin | Rovanion: there are a lot of little pitfalls and some worms in some of the cans you're going to open. also the screwdriver sometimes explodes. |
| 12:37.23 | armin | but go ahead. |
| 12:37.25 | rancyd | bah, still seems stuck on udev :\ |
| 12:37.31 | armin | Rovanion: well what exactly are you looking for? |
| 12:37.50 | armin | Rovanion: obviously you use that lock file to define a specific state your daemon is in, right? |
| 12:38.19 | armin | oh, udev, just had fun with that this morning and ended giving up. |
| 12:38.42 | rancyd | armin: is there a way i can just safely roll back? |
| 12:38.51 | armin | rancyd: from what exactly? |
| 12:39.01 | Rovanion | I mean we've had issues with user owned folders in /var/run disappearing before, which we solved by having them created on boot. I was just wondering if there's any better folder to place the pidfile in. armin: It's not a lockfile but a pidfile, same issue though. |
| 12:39.11 | armin | oh that |
| 12:39.21 | armin | yeah you could clean apt's caches i guess. |
| 12:39.51 | armin | also paste the complete error message along with the command you entered somewhere. |
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| 12:40.38 | Rovanion | armin: Or rather. We created folders with the right permissions under /var/run in the init scripts before. How do I do it now? |
| 12:40.44 | rancyd | i dont get an error message, it just never completes |
| 12:41.48 | armin | Rovanion: glas you're asking. actually, i don't know. i know how to solve that problem in different scripting languages including bash and sh, but with systemd i would have to dig through further information now, eventually ending up reading selfish blog-posts of lennart and kay. |
| 12:41.54 | armin | s/glas/glad/ |
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| 12:42.41 | armin | so, you could look if there are some pre/post commands you could execute, or maybe there even is a mechanism for this in systemd implemented already (i wouldn't be surprised since we already have container virtualization and systemd in systemd, so...) |
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| 12:44.33 | armin | about the rage part of systemd: introduce me to that guy operating hundreds of debian systems who did not have major breakage with the replacement of an entire init-system, no matter how good this girl or guy is in automating things, he or she won't have a good time here. |
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| 12:45.07 | armin | and yes, the move was mostly painless in debian. if i just remember arch or fedora, oh jesus. |
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| 12:45.24 | armin | i'm thankful this went so smooth in debian, really. |
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| 12:48.55 | armin | rancyd: you could have a look at the ExecStartPre= and ExecStartPost= parameters of man systemd.service |
| 12:49.01 | Brigo | Rovanion, ask in debian-systemd. |
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| 12:49.20 | rancyd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:50.08 | armin | rancyd: i can never remember those names due to the stupid pointless camel case use of those options. |
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| 12:50.48 | quantum_88 | hello |
| 12:50.56 | armin | actually, i'm short of just using daemontools again. and yes, on systemd. |
| 12:51.03 | quantum_88 | I'm new to irc |
| 12:51.14 | armin | that's great. how do you feel? |
| 12:51.29 | quantum_88 | Me? |
| 12:51.37 | armin | quantum_88: on the internet, nobody knows you're a dog. |
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| 12:51.52 | quantum_88 | I'm confised |
| 12:51.57 | quantum_88 | confused* |
| 12:51.59 | quantum_88 | dog? |
| 12:52.04 | armin | dog. |
| 12:52.10 | quantum_88 | ok... |
| 12:52.27 | quantum_88 | I'm looking for a little help with installing debian |
| 12:52.40 | Brigo | Brigo, Rovanion debian-systemd in oftc network. |
| 12:53.20 | armin | quantum_88: you're probably in the right place, but people still can't help you as that was already the 7th line that did not tell us anything about your actual problem. |
| 12:53.46 | quantum_88 | Well I am runnning Arch |
| 12:53.54 | viderizer | http://mirror.debian.org/status.html - what is wrong with the mirrors? |
| 12:53.54 | armin | m( |
| 12:53.57 | quantum_88 | and I am trying to dual boot debian |
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| 12:54.35 | quantum_88 | I'm having trouble with btrfs subvolumes |
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| 12:56.20 | quantum_88 | I am using debootstrap because the installer doesn't recognize that I already have btrfs subvolumes I want to use |
| 12:57.10 | quantum_88 | fsdf |
| 12:57.14 | quantum_88 | sdf |
| 12:58.15 | quantum_88 | here is my setup |
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| 12:59.44 | quantum_88 | https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3k06el/debootstrap_installation_on_btrfs_subvolumes/ |
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| 13:07.19 | tremon | I don't think PARTUUID= is a supported root path for the initramfs |
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| 13:07.36 | tremon | did your ext4 setup also use PARTUUID? |
| 13:07.39 | quantum_88 | Are you talking to me tremon? |
| 13:07.53 | tremon | yes, at least I was trying to :) |
| 13:08.05 | quantum_88 | this is my first time on irc |
| 13:08.07 | quantum_88 | my bad |
| 13:08.30 | nebg | why after a failed dist-upgrade... i have some programs uninstalled ????? |
| 13:08.32 | nebg | damn |
| 13:08.49 | quantum_88 | I don't have an ext4 setup |
| 13:09.17 | tremon | quantum_88: "I have done this very same installation on virtualbox with ext4 filesystem and it worked without a hitch" ? |
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| 13:09.40 | quantum_88 | LOL |
| 13:09.41 | quantum_88 | ya |
| 13:09.50 | quantum_88 | I did the same exact thing |
| 13:10.02 | quantum_88 | same exact steps.... |
| 13:10.05 | asarch | How can I check if SELinux is on? |
| 13:10.08 | quantum_88 | my steps might suck |
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| 13:10.13 | quantum_88 | i'll post them |
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| 13:10.22 | tremon | quantum_88: any way, you can add break=mountroot to the kernel command line to force the initramfs process to drop to a shell |
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| 13:10.44 | quantum_88 | ? |
| 13:10.58 | tremon | maybe that way you can inspect the state of the system before it attempts to mount the real / |
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| 13:11.06 | quantum_88 | http://pastebin.com/btwF14fG |
| 13:11.23 | quantum_88 | here is a pastebin of the exact steps I followed |
| 13:11.43 | quantum_88 | Arch is the OS I use now |
| 13:11.51 | quantum_88 | I'm trying to dualboot w/ debian |
| 13:12.29 | asarch | Oh, there is no SELinux by default on Debian :-P |
| 13:12.29 | tremon | MAKEDEV is really old, usually it's better to mount --bind /dev /target/dev but then you get arch device paths in the debian chroot. Not sure how divergent the two are |
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| 13:13.37 | tremon | the kernel to install is linux-image-amd64, and you may need firmware-linux-nonfree for cpu microcode and certain network/graphics drivers |
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| 13:14.57 | quantum_88 | ok... so use mount --bind /dev /target/dev |
| 13:15.07 | quantum_88 | and firmware-linux-nonfree? |
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| 13:15.16 | quantum_88 | What is target? |
| 13:15.21 | tremon | asarch: it's not there by default, and it's not there at all in jessie (no suitable policy). The answer to your question would probably be "run getenforce" |
| 13:15.33 | asarch | Thank you trem0r |
| 13:15.34 | tremon | quantum_88: /target is where you mounted the debian root |
| 13:15.42 | asarch | I mean, tremon |
| 13:15.48 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
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| 13:16.12 | quantum_88 | So this doesn't seem like a problem w/ fstab |
| 13:16.20 | quantum_88 | or my bootloader |
| 13:16.26 | asarch | I will not use SELinux for the moment (I am using Xen) |
| 13:17.19 | quantum_88 | I don't think it is(though I'm a noob) because the same steps work with the ext4 setup |
| 13:17.25 | tremon | quantum_88: no, your problem is with the root=PARTUUID=... part, it isn't recognized by debian's initramfs. only LABEL= and UUID= are supported |
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| 13:18.14 | tremon | and I'm not certain at all on mounting a btrfs subvolume as root, maybe it's possible but I wouldn't know how |
| 13:18.16 | quantum_88 | So do I replace it with the UUID? |
| 13:18.45 | quantum_88 | I followed similar steps installing arch and it works grea |
| 13:18.47 | quantum_88 | great |
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| 13:19.15 | quantum_88 | Question: initramfs = initrd? |
| 13:19.24 | tremon | yes |
| 13:20.10 | quantum_88 | how long will you be around |
| 13:20.11 | quantum_88 | ? |
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| 13:20.33 | tremon | probably only another half hour |
| 13:21.11 | quantum_88 | question |
| 13:21.42 | quantum_88 | I have no clue about the step with makedev |
| 13:21.53 | jelly | armin: you wouldn't have a unit definition for svscanboot ready? :-) |
| 13:22.04 | quantum_88 | instead of installing makedev |
| 13:22.40 | tremon | quantum_88: run mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev before entering the chroot |
| 13:23.17 | quantum_88 | so after I install through debootstrap |
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| 13:23.30 | quantum_88 | but before I enter the chroot and make the fstab? |
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| 13:23.41 | tremon | yes, at step 9.5 probably |
| 13:24.12 | tremon | although you could do it at 11.5 to avoid a wrong /dev entry showing up in fstab |
| 13:24.15 | quantum_88 | should I add these to step 9.5 |
| 13:24.21 | quantum_88 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:24.25 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /sys sys/ |
| 13:24.29 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /dev dev/ |
| 13:24.33 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /run run/ |
| 13:25.32 | quantum_88 | or at 11.5 |
| 13:25.54 | quantum_88 | and skip step 13? |
| 13:26.32 | tremon | yes, skip step 13 and do them before step 12 |
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| 13:26.55 | tremon | you can also skip step 14 then |
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| 13:27.30 | quantum_88 | (i know it sounds dumb, excuse me) so I do: |
| 13:27.53 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /sys /mnt/debinst/sys |
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| 13:28.21 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /dev /mnt/debinst/dev |
| 13:28.31 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /run /mnt/debinst/run |
| 13:29.05 | tremon | I wouldn't bind the host's /run there. But yes about the others (and add /proc to that list) |
| 13:29.06 | quantum_88 | mount -t proc proc /mnt/debinst/proc |
| 13:29.37 | quantum_88 | and this is before entering the chroot |
| 13:29.40 | tremon | yes |
| 13:29.56 | chozha | :) |
| 13:30.11 | quantum_88 | anything you'd add? |
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| 13:30.25 | chozha | diff between chroot vs chmod ? |
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| 13:31.02 | tremon | I would mount -t tmpfs tmpfs /mnt/debinst/tmp as well, but that's just because I hate having litter there :) |
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| 13:31.02 | markybob | chozha, that's like asking the difference between humans and corn |
| 13:31.34 | chozha | O.o oh i c markybob |
| 13:31.47 | markybob | chozha, chroot is a contained environment. chmod changes permissions |
| 13:32.05 | chozha | thanks markybob |
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| 13:33.22 | quantum_88 | 12--Mount the temporary api filesystems: |
| 13:33.23 | quantum_88 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.23 | quantum_88 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.23 | quantum_88 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:33.23 | quantum_88 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:33.23 | chozha | aruna: :o |
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| 13:34.34 | chozha | aruna: tamil ? |
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| 13:35.27 | aruna | chozha: Umm... understand a little bit if spoken slowly.. :) |
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| 13:35.35 | quantum_88 | tremon? |
| 13:35.46 | quantum_88 | I got kicked out for trying to paste my steps |
| 13:35.50 | tremon | still here |
| 13:35.52 | quantum_88 | flooding |
| 13:35.54 | chozha | Nice aruna :) |
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| 13:36.10 | quantum_88 | so here is my new step 12 |
| 13:36.15 | quantum_88 | cd /mnt/debinst |
| 13:36.20 | quantum_88 | mount -t proc proc proc/ |
| 13:36.24 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /sys sys/ |
| 13:36.25 | aruna | chozha: am curious, why did u ask ? |
| 13:36.29 | quantum_88 | mount --rbind /dev dev/ |
| 13:36.34 | quantum_88 | mount -t tmpfs tmpfs tmp/ |
| 13:36.41 | quantum_88 | does that look ok? |
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| 13:36.51 | tremon | yes looks fine |
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| 13:37.07 | quantum_88 | ok last one i think |
| 13:37.08 | chozha | aruna: ? its familiar tamil name to me as i am tamilnadu |
| 13:37.16 | chozha | from |
| 13:37.17 | tremon | chozha, aruna: not here. We have #debian-offtopic for non-debian talk |
| 13:37.22 | quantum_88 | so do I install all three |
| 13:37.27 | chozha | tremon: sorry |
| 13:37.42 | aruna | tremon: my apologies |
| 13:37.43 | tremon | quantum_88: install? |
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| 13:37.48 | chozha | :| |
| 13:38.05 | quantum_88 | apt install firmware-linux-free firmware-linux-nonfree firmware-linux |
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| 13:38.54 | chozha | how to terminate all process except the terminal we are accessing ? |
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| 13:39.48 | tremon | quantum_88: probably best, yes. Not sure if you really need them, but unless you're certain that you don't... |
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| 13:40.44 | quantum_88 | I got this step from a tutorial do I need it |
| 13:40.58 | quantum_88 | vim /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-efistub |
| 13:41.02 | quantum_88 | #!/bin/sh |
| 13:41.08 | quantum_88 | cp /vmlinuz /initrd.img /boot/efi/EFI/debian |
| 13:41.19 | quantum_88 | exit |
| 13:41.26 | quantum_88 | exit vim |
| 13:41.30 | quantum_88 | chmod +x /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-efistub |
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| 13:41.59 | tremon | not sure, I have few efi systems to play with |
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| 13:43.08 | tremon | those steps copy the debian kernel into the efi system partition, which sounds reasonable but is completely unnecessary with grub-efi, as that can just as easily read the kernel from /boot |
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| 13:44.06 | quantum_88 | k |
| 13:44.16 | quantum_88 | ill practice with vbox |
| 13:44.22 | quantum_88 | thanks SO F'N MUCH |
| 13:44.30 | quantum_88 | I tried for days last month and quit |
| 13:44.32 | tremon | good luck :) |
| 13:44.38 | quantum_88 | then I tried the last few days |
| 13:44.42 | quantum_88 | and still failed |
| 13:44.51 | quantum_88 | thanks gain |
| 13:44.54 | quantum_88 | again* |
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| 13:45.48 | tremon | chozha: it's not really possible to kill all processes. Kill anything between init and your terminal, and your terminal goes with it |
| 13:46.03 | chozha | killall5 ? |
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| 13:46.17 | chozha | what it will do tremon ? |
| 13:46.41 | markybob | chozha, it'll tell you command not found |
| 13:46.48 | chozha | :| |
| 13:47.16 | tremon | I do have a man killall5 on my debian (wheezy) box |
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| 13:47.21 | chozha | markybob: http://linux.die.net/man/8/killall5 |
| 13:47.25 | markybob | man, sure |
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| 13:49.46 | chozha | xennex81: ? |
| 13:50.00 | chozha | hello xennex81 |
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| 13:50.34 | DominikB | chozha, what you try to get out of killing all processes |
| 13:50.54 | chozha | DominikB: dat was an interview question for me |
| 13:51.02 | chozha | i dont know their intention |
| 13:51.28 | DominikB | chozha, may i pn you ? |
| 13:51.52 | chozha | DominikB: yes ? |
| 13:52.05 | chozha | meanwhile i am noob |
| 13:53.09 | markybob | chozha, if someone asked me how to kill all processes....shutdown -k now |
| 13:53.46 | chozha | markybob: genius !!! man of de year ? |
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| 13:54.32 | abrotman | please keep itin the channel |
| 13:54.55 | chozha | itin ? abrotman |
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| 13:55.50 | chozha | is worth mastering puppet ? markybob |
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| 13:56.27 | DominikB | puppet is great tool |
| 13:56.39 | chozha | yes am learning dat |
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| 13:57.05 | markybob | chozha, never touched it, so i don't know. i'm old so i do things old school/manually |
| 13:57.39 | chozha | markybob: so you wont use systemd nix ? |
| 13:58.00 | chozha | markybob: scripting xpert ? |
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| 13:59.31 | joker_89 | hi, i have installed debian but i cannot access via ssh with root user |
| 13:59.32 | joker_89 | :( |
| 13:59.48 | joker_89 | i hve checked /etc/ssh/ssh_config but there is no PermitRootLogin option |
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| 14:01.04 | ce5389q | joker_89: /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 14:01.15 | themill | joker_89: you probably want to look at /usr/share/doc/openssh-server/README.Debian.gz |
| 14:01.15 | joker_89 | ok |
| 14:01.20 | joker_89 | sshd |
| 14:01.28 | joker_89 | not ssh_config |
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| 14:03.24 | ce5389q | joker_89: there is no PermitRootLogin entry in sshd_config file? Then add it. |
| 14:03.25 | meder | how can i debug sporadic crashes? it goes to the system error has occurred and one-button logout screen |
| 14:03.33 | meder | afterwards, it either restarts gnome or logs me out |
| 14:03.37 | meder | not sure which log file to debug |
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| 14:06.10 | RoyK | meder: sporadic crashes may come if memory is bad - run memtest86 - not sure if it's in grub by default, but it's small, available from http://www.memtest.org/ |
| 14:07.02 | meder | RoyK: im sorry for not providing more information - this is only after upgrading to jessie from wheezy. 0 crashes on wheezy for like 3 years |
| 14:07.17 | meder | i think it's gnome related + gfx card maybe |
| 14:07.31 | meder | is there a log file i can checkout ? |
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| 14:15.27 | Dan34 | Hi, I am looking for some folder protected with a password, not encrypted just I need a simple password. Can you advise me something? |
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| 14:36.54 | ibarron_ | Hi guy, Im new to IRC and Debian. |
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| 14:38.14 | NoirLess | o/ |
| 14:38.14 | blah- | hi ibarron_ |
| 14:40.25 | ibarron_ | Hows it going blah? |
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| 14:43.49 | IdleGandalf | Do someone know if the task-kde-desktop in testing is getting fixed sometimes or if its better to just remove it from now on |
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| 14:45.05 | NoirLess | ftp.fi.debian.org doesnt work for 2 days |
| 14:45.36 | NoirLess | is it under DDoS, or dead, or what? |
| 14:46.02 | markybob | IdleGandalf, things are messed up right now from gcc5 transition. stay away is the best advice |
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| 14:46.59 | blah- | :) |
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| 14:47.26 | wheel245 | !sources.list |
| 14:47.26 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 14:48.03 | markybob | pretty sure i told him that yesterday :P |
| 14:48.30 | IdleGandalf | markybob, ah ok, I was wondering already about the gcc5 packages. thx for the information |
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| 14:53.11 | abrotman | NoirLess: does another mirror work? |
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| 14:55.42 | abrotman | NoirLess: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html |
| 14:55.54 | quantum_88 | hello |
| 14:57.22 | abrotman | dpkg: tell NoirLess about http.debian.net |
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| 14:58.26 | NoirLess | yes, this mirror is dead right now |
| 14:59.07 | quantum_88 | I'm looking for a hand while installing Debian on btrfs subvolumes |
| 14:59.21 | NoirLess | i ll change it to other later. And Im know about this link, but nearest mirror =/= best :D |
| 14:59.24 | markybob | NoirLess, you were already told |
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| 14:59.47 | abrotman | NoirLess: so use the http.debian.net, it works based on your location and synced/active mirrors |
| 15:00.05 | quantum_88 | apt |
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| 15:05.37 | quantum_88 | anyone here? |
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| 15:05.57 | centrx | negative |
| 15:06.04 | quantum_88 | lol |
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| 15:06.31 | quantum_88 | I need a hand installing debian |
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| 15:06.56 | markybob | !ask |
| 15:06.57 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:07.31 | quantum_88 | I'm having a problem installing debian on btrfs subvolumes |
| 15:08.45 | quantum_88 | I've installed debian through the almost the same exact steps on a ext4 partition and everything worked fine |
| 15:08.55 | quantum_88 | but I want to dual boot with Arch |
| 15:09.09 | quantum_88 | and maybe another os in the future |
| 15:09.19 | quantum_88 | so I use btrfs subvolumes |
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| 15:09.37 | quantum_88 | here is a link to a little more specifics |
| 15:09.47 | quantum_88 | https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/3k06el/debootstrap_installation_on_btrfs_subvolumes/ |
| 15:09.49 | amicuscuriae | is Debian a fine tuned OS or do we need to do it? |
| 15:10.40 | DominikB | amicuscuriae, it ticks like a swiss watch |
| 15:10.41 | markybob | amicuscuriae, that's a silly question. |
| 15:11.06 | rozie | it has sane defaults, but it's not tuned |
| 15:11.08 | markybob | okay then |
| 15:11.15 | rozie | meh |
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| 15:11.37 | rozie | amicuscuriae: it has sane defaults, but it's not tuned |
| 15:12.00 | amicuscuriae | DominikB, markybob So what's up? |
| 15:12.17 | markybob | amicuscuriae, it's built so you make it to what you want and how you want it |
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| 15:12.23 | amicuscuriae | rozie, ok then I would go with the defaults |
| 15:12.29 | amicuscuriae | markybob, I get it |
| 15:12.55 | rozie | tuning is preparing for special purpose. some settings are good for servers and terrible for routers |
| 15:13.37 | rozie | amicuscuriae: what will use Debian for? |
| 15:13.51 | rozie | you* |
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| 15:15.00 | mdomino | Hey guys - I'm getting started on getting up to speed with Linux/Virtualization and I have a Proxmox VE server running in the same room as my general Windows 10 desktop. I've got a few OpenVZ containers running that I manage over SSH but I was looking to start up a container or VM with a full Debian 7/GNOME3 install for a few tools I need that only have GUIs. I was wondering what is the best way, with the least lag/best performance, to |
| 15:15.00 | mdomino | connect from a Windows computer into the GUI linux VM? I assume this shouldn't be that hard since the computers are connected physically over a 1gbe switch but I just don't know what the preferred method is from Linux gurus. |
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| 15:21.33 | wiki0861 | Would this be a good spot to ask some apt questions? |
| 15:21.45 | markybob | wiki0861, yes |
| 15:21.54 | wiki0861 | sweet |
| 15:22.14 | markybob | wiki0861, you're using debian and not ubuntu, right? |
| 15:22.20 | wiki0861 | yes |
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| 15:23.06 | wiki0861 | I have some airgapped laptops that I would like to install a large amount of packages on (~50) |
| 15:23.37 | abrotman | dpkg: tell wiki0861 about apt-zip |
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| 15:24.19 | wiki0861 | Will that get the dependices* too? |
| 15:24.31 | wiki0861 | That is my biggest issue at this point |
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| 15:32.38 | _mjones | question: I'm trying to update an old squeeze 6.0.5. armel install, but the package indexes I'm retrieving with 'apt-get update' seem to be too old for all the packages in the mirrors. The package versions on which I 404 seem to be squeeze-lts versions only applicable to x86 and amd64. No matter how many different mirror URLs I try in sources.list, I can't get the correct set of indexes. |
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| 15:33.25 | IdleGandalf | wiki0861, apt-zip isn't even available for current stable and testing. maybe give apt-offline a try |
| 15:33.48 | wiki0861 | thanks IdleGandalf I will look at it |
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| 15:39.40 | quantum_88 | hello? |
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| 15:41.18 | centrx | quantum_88, I don't know about btrfs subvolumes |
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| 15:44.04 | quantum_88 | thanks centrx |
| 15:44.17 | quantum_88 | I've been trying to solve this off and on for a month |
| 15:45.15 | Dan34 | Hi, I am looking for some folder protected with a password, not encrypted just I need a simple password. Can you advise me something? |
| 15:45.45 | centrx | quantum_88, You can try back later today, or Monday here. Ask your question again in a little while, different crowd comes in |
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| 15:46.58 | centrx | Dan34, cryptkeeper looks good |
| 15:47.28 | quantum_88 | ok sounds good |
| 15:48.15 | Dan34 | centrx, it allow folder with a password even though not encrypted? |
| 15:48.52 | centrx | Dan34, well, not sure what you mean there. The folder has to be encrypted somehow or the password is pointless? |
| 15:49.26 | centrx | Dan34, without encryption, there's no way to prevent someone from accessing the data in the directory |
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| 15:51.27 | Dan34 | centrx, well i just need a big folder to insert all my thousands of pictures, encrypting a folder/s with so much datas could be not the best choice, I think |
| 15:52.30 | Dan34 | centrx, I just need to prevent my family to all my stuff in the external disk, that's it |
| 15:52.51 | Dan34 | to prevent them to see everything they want* |
| 15:53.15 | centrx | have to use encryption, otherwise the external disk can be connected to a different computer and accessed |
| 15:53.28 | _mjones | Dan34: there's no such thing as simple password protection without encryption. |
| 15:53.29 | centrx | The performance of encryption should be okay, not a big loss of performance |
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| 15:56.21 | Dan34 | I understand.. usually I use the truecrypt for encryption, the last version considered safe, truecrypt 7.1a I know how to create and manage it.. do you think is still better to change to somethging else like cryptkeeper? |
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| 15:57.28 | ShibaInu | guys my vps is running debian jessie and its on linux kernel 3.16 |
| 15:57.30 | ShibaInu | i mean 2.6 |
| 15:57.34 | ShibaInu | shouldnt it be on 3.16? |
| 15:58.13 | _mjones | Dan34: if you're comfortable with truecrypt, I'd continue using it. Truecrypt is portable across some operating systems; perhaps good for a USB drive. I use dmcrypt only for system disks. |
| 15:58.20 | JodaZ | Dan34, you need windows compatibility? |
| 15:58.39 | _mjones | ShibaInu: sort-of. Linode? |
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| 15:58.48 | Shibe | _mjones: ramnode |
| 15:58.54 | Shibe | i upgraded from old stable to stable |
| 15:59.05 | _mjones | ShibaInu: virtualised environments often choose to boot kernel and initrd images separate from userland. |
| 15:59.21 | JodaZ | Dan34, dm-crypt is linux native, it works very well |
| 15:59.54 | _mjones | ShibaInu: when I was on Linode I was puzzled why my kernel wasn't updating, but turns out there's a separate option in the web manager I didn't know about until a coworker told me. I assume it's the same with ramnode. |
| 15:59.55 | Dan34 | JodaZ, I just use linux Os, not windows |
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| 16:00.10 | JodaZ | Dan34, then just go for dm-crypt |
| 16:00.18 | Shibe | _mjones: okay thanks |
| 16:01.11 | _mjones | Shibe: you should be safe upgrading to as new of a kernel as you desire. I <3 4.0+. ;) |
| 16:01.18 | Shibe | ok |
| 16:01.19 | Shibe | ty |
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| 16:02.13 | Dan34 | JodaZ, I think I've tried to use dm-crypt without success. Does it have a GUI like truecrypt? Is it very reliable? |
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| 16:02.51 | _mjones | So about my squeeze armel install; I either need to find a mirror with the older packages, or figure out why I'm only seeing the manifest for newer ones. You'd think if it was a known repo issue someone would have noticed. |
| 16:02.56 | JodaZ | Dan34, it is very very reliable, there propably is some kind of gui somewhere, but i don't use one, its simple enough to use from commandline |
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| 16:04.08 | Dan34 | JodaZ, i understand, i should try to learn how to use it. |
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| 16:04.22 | _mjones | Dan34: I concur with JodaZ. Very reliable. I don't know about GUI, but it should be about 1-3 commands to encrypt and mount your drive. As a Linux user it's always nice to be comfortable with the command-line. |
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| 16:05.44 | Dan34 | thanks of the advise I will try to use it |
| 16:05.56 | Dan34 | thanks guys |
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| 16:07.51 | JodaZ | zuluCrypt is a gui, Dan34 |
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| 16:09.15 | Renari | I was trying to install the php5-sqlite extension and somehow I managed to break dpkg. Every time I try to install or remove anything I'm told to run "apt-get -f install". |
| 16:09.24 | Renari | However when I do that I get this error: https://gist.github.com/Renari/8fffe89257a125762e3f |
| 16:09.52 | _mjones | Dan34: for the record, I know the publicly available information about Truecrypt, and I wouldn't hesitate to use it if I wanted, despite the history. |
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| 16:10.31 | An_Ony_Moose | my cinnamon desktop has completely frozen visually, but I can still ssh into my laptop. I've tried restarting lightdm, which just hangs... Can anyone suggest any more things to try that don't involve rebooting? |
| 16:10.53 | JodaZ | my occams razor is still that truecrypt canaried at the right moment |
| 16:10.53 | Renari | Should I manually delete the packages that are causing the issue? |
| 16:11.21 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, restart X maybe? |
| 16:11.33 | _mjones | Renari: sounds like perhaps resource exhaustion or conflict with another process that doesn't have a lock. If it's easy to reboot this, I would probably try a reboot first. |
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| 16:11.43 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ, how exactly? I usually do that by restarting the display manager. |
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| 16:12.04 | An_Ony_Moose | Oh, also, I can't switch to ttys on the machine, only get in via ssh |
| 16:12.19 | Renari | _mjones, Alright, I'll try that thanks. |
| 16:12.31 | _mjones | JodaZ: afaicr, there was no strong authentication of that message. However, you have a point. |
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| 16:13.02 | _mjones | Renari: if it recurs, please let us know. |
| 16:13.09 | JodaZ | _mjones, authentication? you can't auth a canary, the whole idea is legal deniability |
| 16:13.33 | Brigo | Renari, you are installing packages from differents repos which isn't supported. |
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| 16:14.01 | _mjones | JodaZ: well, it wasn't precisely a canary. A canary is a strong-authenticated message that says everything is ok, which is 100% legal (in the States). |
| 16:14.06 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, i dunno, kill it hard before doing that; maybe you got a hard display driver freeze or smth |
| 16:14.12 | Brigo | !frankendebian |
| 16:14.12 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 16:14.37 | JodaZ | _mjones, yeah, you need something beforehand for that tho, they didn't, so this is the best they could do |
| 16:14.38 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ: kill -9 ? |
| 16:14.43 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, sure |
| 16:14.44 | _mjones | Strongly-authenticated, even. |
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| 16:14.54 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ, still doesn't stop |
| 16:15.03 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, what doesn't stop? |
| 16:15.35 | _mjones | JodaZ: it would have been fairly trivial for a jurisdiction or another random actor with access to have posted this. |
| 16:15.54 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ: X, just double-checked, lightdm does stop |
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| 16:16.02 | An_Ony_Moose | X doesn't stop though |
| 16:16.18 | JodaZ | _mjones, doesn't matter from a motives perspective |
| 16:16.32 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, you do kill -9 on the X process and it doesn't die? |
| 16:16.37 | _mjones | JodaZ: I'd certainly like to know the real story, but given the anonymity (and, I think, lack of associated public keys) we might never really know. |
| 16:16.37 | Brigo | An_Ony_Moose, if the display manager isn't running X should be stopped. |
| 16:17.07 | An_Ony_Moose | Brigo, it's not :) |
| 16:17.13 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ: yes. |
| 16:17.17 | JodaZ | _mjones, it doesn't matter, but post hoc canary is the most likely and also safest explanation |
| 16:17.22 | _mjones | JodaZ: so if you see a vague note that everyone should stop using dmcrypt, you will stop using dmcrypt? |
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| 16:18.22 | Brigo | An_Ony_Moose, i meant, X should be hanging, if kill can't stop it, nothing will. |
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| 16:18.59 | JodaZ | _mjones, no, interpreting it as a canary doesn't mean to stop using it, it means reasonable action was taken, recent changes have to be examinated but that its otherwise safe because the canary was likely on-time |
| 16:19.10 | An_Ony_Moose | Brigo: so can I do anything that will get my display working and leave my tmux sessions running |
| 16:19.29 | JodaZ | _mjones, now if it had then continued releasing updates as if nothing happened, i'd be very wary of those |
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| 16:21.44 | _mjones | JodaZ: that's reasonable, but that's not how I was interpreting what you said before. |
| 16:21.45 | _mjones | http://istruecryptauditedyet.com/ |
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| 16:22.12 | Renari | _mjones, same issue after restart |
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| 16:22.48 | _mjones | extra relevance: the debian reproducible builds project is doing great work here. Very useful for purposes other than security, even. |
| 16:22.52 | asm35 | +!â¯;! : XEPIOUY'ba .xiy@â¾Aèo.pèubà AMNNPIX'XÃ,'KC Ma |
| 16:23.06 | JodaZ | _mjones, but thats how you interpret a canary triggering, that it was fine before that (besides the most recent changes potentially) and something happened |
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| 16:24.19 | _mjones | Renari: another person here seemed to notice that you were mixing repos. |
| 16:25.49 | Renari | Hm, I recall adding debian unstable to get a package that was unavailable elsewhere. Do you think removing that repo would fix my issue? |
| 16:25.53 | _mjones | Never cross the streams! Hate is hereby directed towards rpm-based distributions that tacitly encourage repo-mixing, and towards language repos whose devs are going to cause all of my machines to break and all of my coders to argue with me. |
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| 16:26.41 | Brigo | An_Ony_Moose, i doubt it. Try to check logs, with journalctl -b, and see what happen. |
| 16:26.41 | JodaZ | _mjones, that page doesn't contain a link to the article that describes how the released truecrypt builds have actualy been reproduced |
| 16:26.51 | Dan34 | JodaZ, yea thanks |
| 16:27.04 | _mjones | Renari: I'm running testing on my main machine right now because I badly needed kernel support for Broadwell VPU hardware. But yes, commenting things out is a good step. |
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| 16:28.23 | An_Ony_Moose | Brigo: I've given up and rebooted, but I'll take a look at the logs now |
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| 16:29.45 | Renari | Ah well that seems to have fixed my problem, seems I need to reinstall everything now since "you have broken packages". |
| 16:30.25 | _mjones | Renari: -f can force some things. Best used judiciously. |
| 16:31.01 | _mjones | Renari: in my experience, a few cycles of forcing things, removing things, and update && upgrade usually gets things back in order. |
| 16:31.30 | Renari | Alright thanks. |
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| 16:32.42 | JodaZ | _mjones, https://madiba.encs.concordia.ca/~x_decarn/truecrypt-binaries-analysis/ |
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| 16:36.42 | _mjones | JodaZ: useful link. Reminds me that the story was pretty odd. It's uncommon for anyone to release a new edition with new features just to deprecate a tool, much less a volunteer (presumably) project. |
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| 16:37.36 | JodaZ | _mjones, what are you refering to? |
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| 16:39.04 | _mjones | JodaZ: "The TrueCrypt project was apparently abruptly shut down on May 28, 2014 and provides a farewell edition (v7.2) that is stripped of any code that enables the creation of new encrypted volumes and adds a feature to decrypt existing non-system encrypted drives in-place to facilitate the transition to other encryption tools." |
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| 16:39.18 | Renari | Hm now I can't seem to install php because it says there are unmet dependencies. I've only commented out debian unstable though. |
| 16:39.30 | Renari | https://gist.github.com/Renari/feae8bd5b0d6c66ed1a4 |
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| 16:40.25 | _mjones | Renari: 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' after commenting out? If so, probably time to find the conflicts and delete them with 'apt-get remove'. |
| 16:40.38 | Renari | I did update but not upgrade. |
| 16:41.09 | _mjones | The upgrade probably isn't necessary. But doesn't hurt. The update was the important thing. |
| 16:41.49 | JodaZ | _mjones, if people just weren't so conspiracy cringe about it, it all fits with truecrypt devs trolling some gov agency goon serving them a cease&desist |
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| 16:44.30 | _mjones | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/u/uboot-mkimage/ has no armel package. Yes, this is all the product of squeeze-lts only supporting x86 and amd64. |
| 16:45.37 | _mjones | JodaZ: I guess that's probably the most believable explanation. We don't know in what jurisdiction they were -- although there's a widely-known guess -- but such a cease order would be a violation of free speech rights in many nations. |
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| 16:47.26 | _mjones | I wonder if I can upgrade to enough of wheezy to get a toolchain without needing to reboot to a newer kernel. Likely yes. |
| 16:47.43 | Dan34 | the file to install for dm-crypt is just cryptsetup? |
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| 16:49.10 | _mjones | Dan34: that's the interactive piece but you might need others. |
| 16:50.30 | JodaZ | Dan34, your package manager should pull everything you need if you tell it to install cryptsetup |
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| 16:51.27 | Renari | Ah seems php5-common was still installed and was causing the issues. |
| 16:52.35 | Dan34 | i have installed crypsetup from synaptic and has added some other packages yes |
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| 16:53.10 | JodaZ | Dan34, you could check if there is zuluCrypt on synaptic, that'd be a gui |
| 16:53.19 | Dan34 | there is not |
| 16:55.00 | Dan34 | it is just downloadable from github |
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| 16:55.30 | JodaZ | Dan34, ah, well, then don't bother |
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| 16:57.37 | nullbyte_ | Installation requires Oracle Java 1.5 or later whose owner is superuser. Please install the correct version with superuser and Java Cryptography Extension (JCE) Unlimited Strength Jurisdiction Policy Files, and try again. |
| 16:57.46 | nullbyte_ | what packages i need for this requirement? |
| 16:58.06 | somiaj | if it won't work with the openjdk packages proivded by debian you will have to support you own java install |
| 16:58.13 | Dan34 | would you use zulucrypt even though it's not present in the debian repository? |
| 16:58.39 | somiaj | you can either install java locally (from oracle) or you can use java-package to create a .deb from oracle's java .bin, either way you have to get the java from oracle and install it yourself (and thus manage the install) |
| 16:58.45 | somiaj | nullbyte_: ^^ |
| 16:58.49 | nullbyte_ | somiaj: |
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| 16:59.27 | nullbyte_ | which packages omiaj? |
| 16:59.30 | nullbyte_ | names.. |
| 16:59.40 | nullbyte_ | somiaj sorry:) |
| 16:59.49 | JodaZ | Dan34, no, it'd only have been convenient if it had been there, but since its not its more convenient to use cryptsetup from the commandline |
| 17:00.18 | otyugh | why is my rpcbind port open when installing the nfs client ? |
| 17:01.24 | Dan34 | JodaZ, i unnderstand, i see it is possible to use on SID but i guess it could cause problem on my Jessie. https://packages.debian.org/source/sid/zulucrypt |
| 17:01.26 | somiaj | nullbyte_: java-package |
| 17:02.20 | somiaj | nullbyte_: again if you cannot run it using the opendJDK packages provided by debian you must do a local install and use oracle's java (which really isn't supported here). You can follow the instructions from oracle and install java locally or use java-package which may make a .deb of the oracle's java (unsure what versions java-package supports) |
| 17:02.30 | nullbyte_ | mh |
| 17:02.32 | nullbyte_ | ok somiaj thanks |
| 17:02.54 | somiaj | !tell nullbyte_ about java-package |
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| 17:03.10 | Terrierbyte | Hello! I've just bought a VPS that happened to run without dpkg, apt, nano or anything else I need to feel comfortable configuring my OS. How would I go about installing both dpkg and apt? |
| 17:03.30 | JodaZ | Dan34, i guess you could try the jessie packages from the official site |
| 17:03.54 | somiaj | Terrierbyte: sound slike you have a vps that is not debian. |
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| 17:04.13 | somiaj | Terrierbyte: removing dpkg is really hard to do on a debian system, sure it isn't centOS or some other rpm distro? |
| 17:04.51 | Terrierbyte | That's an interesting point, somiaj, I did select a Debian flavour (Ubuntu) but I will double check |
| 17:05.01 | somiaj | yea dpkg is a required package, someone would have to really break a system to remove dpkg from it |
| 17:05.19 | somiaj | Terrierbyte: this is not #ubuntu, if you want ubuntu use their support. |
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| 17:06.19 | somiaj | if lsb_release is isntalled you can use that to determine what relese is running, lsb_release -r |
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| 17:07.01 | Dan34 | JodaZ, i just see it for debian sid OR here http://mhogomchungu.github.io/zuluCrypt/ for Jessie but is not present on the jessie packages |
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| 17:07.45 | _mjones | Well, I'm updating the armel box to wheezy since squeeze repos are effectively broken. The last good release of Debian. ;-) |
| 17:07.48 | JodaZ | Dan34, yeah, you could try the zuluCrypt-4.7.7-debian-8-Jessie.tar.xz from that link |
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| 17:09.02 | Terrierbyte | I'm an idiot, I had accidentally clicked the recovery button on my VPS, that's why there are no functions. |
| 17:09.05 | Terrierbyte | Thank you somiaj |
| 17:09.55 | Dan34 | JodaZ, yes |
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| 17:11.15 | bint | hi there |
| 17:11.40 | _mjones | I see there's no end-of-life date announced for wheezy yet. Good. |
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| 17:11.46 | bint | anybody knows of a good ftp server for debian with a administration tool (GUI) for windows |
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| 17:12.08 | bint | (monitoring and managing)) |
| 17:12.20 | _mjones | bint: I doubt any exist. |
| 17:12.38 | bint | so i could monitor current ftp bandwith, connections etc, add and delete users etc. |
| 17:12.56 | _mjones | bint: also, I'd like to recommend that you consider HTTP for whatever you're doing. |
| 17:13.09 | bint | ??? |
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| 17:13.34 | _mjones | bint: such a thing would require a special management API for the unix ftp server and a windows client for same. I know of no such thing. |
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| 17:13.51 | bint | i know of serv-u for example |
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| 17:14.05 | bint | it exists for windows (filezilla has a remote admin function) |
| 17:14.20 | _mjones | bint: the HTTP recommendation is for different reasons. Although you'll find newer software having less support for FTP. Because, FTP. |
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| 17:14.46 | _mjones | bint: serv-u runs on Unix. Let me see if it's in repos. |
| 17:15.48 | _mjones | bint: it's commercial: http://www.serv-u.com/linux |
| 17:16.22 | _mjones | I saw that used by another group at an enterprise job. I wondered why they picked it. Maybe because it has management from Windows. |
| 17:16.39 | An_Ony_Moose | So I had some odd issues earlier, as far as I can tell my display froze and X wouldn't let me kill it, but everything else was working. Looked into /var/log/lightdm/x-0.log.old now and found this... http://dpaste.com/22WXQNK it seems it did still respond to my attempts at switching to a VT, but nothing changed on screen. The system seemed to still be operational other than that, I could SSH in and stu |
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| 17:16.45 | An_Ony_Moose | ff. Any idea what could have been happening? |
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| 17:20.56 | Renari | _mjones, thanks a lot for your help everything is fixed now |
| 17:21.12 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, i'd asume driver or device freeze |
| 17:21.29 | Renari | just a heads up if anyone else ever has this issue, tell them to reinstall things with aptitude since it will recommend downgrading packages |
| 17:21.40 | Renari | and it saves a lot of time doing that manually |
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| 17:24.09 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ: so nothing to do about it really? Or can I debug it somehow? (I'm not using proprietary drivers, to my knowledge) |
| 17:24.31 | g00se | An_Ony_Moose: is the fs read only? |
| 17:24.32 | An_Ony_Moose | well I can't really debug it now, I'd have to find a way to reproduce it for starters, but in case it does happen again... |
| 17:24.37 | An_Ony_Moose | g00se: it wasn't |
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| 17:25.08 | g00se | .. but is now..? |
| 17:25.13 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, well, not being able to kill X isn't good, otherwise you could for example try reloading the graphics driver module |
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| 17:25.30 | An_Ony_Moose | g00se: I rebooted in the end |
| 17:25.47 | An_Ony_Moose | g00se: and it isn't now either, but the problem isn't happening right now :) |
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| 17:26.50 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ: so rmmod i915, modprobe i915? |
| 17:26.54 | Guest94179 | hey there i would like to install a rt kernel to be able to run linuxcnc but i have problems because some files were not found can someone help please |
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| 17:27.12 | An_Ony_Moose | Guest94179: "some files were not found" -- elaborate? |
| 17:27.18 | JodaZ | i think theres a modprobe -r, An_Ony_Moose |
| 17:27.39 | _mjones | Renari: ok, I'll bear that in mind. I've never used aptitude, I don't think. |
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| 17:28.24 | An_Ony_Moose | JodaZ: they do the same thing AFAICT. I'm not sure it would be possible to remove the display driver though, because it would still be in use... |
| 17:28.42 | _mjones | Guest94179: I'm surprised a simple cnc would need realtime. What exactly is your error? |
| 17:28.51 | JodaZ | An_Ony_Moose, yeah, not being able to kill processes on linux is a real problem |
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| 17:29.45 | Guest94179 | the error is that the package could not be found |
| 17:29.54 | Guest94179 | sudo apt-get install linux-image-rt-amd64 |
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| 17:31.11 | Guest94179 | and one other thing is my root passwort works only somethimes its really funny because i really watch on typos and in some terminal it work and in others not |
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| 17:32.53 | donttrustem | Hi guys, I am a member of the www-data group and the files are owned by www-data but I cannot write changes? |
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| 17:33.46 | An_Ony_Moose | donttrustem: they probably don't have group-write permissions, |
| 17:34.00 | An_Ony_Moose | or are not owned by the www-data *group* |
| 17:34.09 | An_Ony_Moose | donttrustem: try ls -l on one of them. |
| 17:34.31 | _mjones | Guest94179: VM consoles can cause repeated characters if you type fast. Typing slowly is a workaround. |
| 17:34.37 | donttrustem | An_Ony_Moose: you maybe right ⦠how do I give the group write permissions? |
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| 17:35.40 | An_Ony_Moose | donttrustem: check why it isn't writable first. Try ls -l on one of the files in questions. |
| 17:35.54 | _mjones | Guest94179: run 'sudo apt-get update' and then try the install again. If it doesn't work, pastebin the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list. |
| 17:36.43 | donttrustem | An_Ony_Moose: I want the group to be able to write to all directories in themes drwxrws--- 4 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 16 08:40 themes |
| 17:36.45 | _mjones | The rt image is present in the repos I'm using for 'testing'. Although I still have doubts about whether CNC routing needs an rt kernel. The modern kernel is tickless, and probably 100hz, you know? |
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| 17:38.09 | donttrustem | An_Ony_Moose: chgrp -R www-data themes |
| 17:38.27 | An_Ony_Moose | donttrustem: looks alright. What about what's inside themes? |
| 17:38.47 | donttrustem | folders and files |
| 17:38.51 | g00se | chmod -R g+w |
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| 17:39.34 | donttrustem | An_Ony_Moose: drwxr-sr-x 2 www-data www-data 4096 Jul 16 08:40 css |
| 17:39.50 | An_Ony_Moose | donttrustem: that isn't group-writable :) |
| 17:40.07 | An_Ony_Moose | donttrustem: try chmod -R g+w themes |
| 17:40.25 | donttrustem | thans |
| 17:40.28 | donttrustem | thanks |
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| 17:41.42 | donttrustem | That worked :) |
| 17:42.19 | An_Ony_Moose | donttrustem: you're welcome! |
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| 17:48.03 | _mjones | So, the update of the armel box from Squeeze to Wheezy has so far gone perfectly. Seems the Wheezy repos are in good shape, but only x86 and amd64 users can use squeeze as LTS. |
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| 17:49.28 | johnkeates | kernel: gsettings-data-[4769]: segfault at 48 ip 00007f8771c4dd0b sp 00007ffcec4561e0 error 4 in libgconf-2.so.4.1.5[7f8771c2e000+30000] |
| 17:49.42 | johnkeates | causes me to not be able to login from gdm3 or gnome-session |
| 17:49.48 | johnkeates | but startx works |
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| 17:50.02 | johnkeates | im on jessie, dist-upgraded from wheezy where everything worked |
| 17:50.36 | johnkeates | i tried purging and reinstalling but it didn't help |
| 17:52.47 | johnkeates | i have no idea how to further debug or fix this :( |
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| 17:54.22 | johnkeates | interestingly, i can reproduce the segfault with: gsettings-data-convert --verbose --dry-run |
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| 18:00.55 | somiaj | johnkeates: random suggestion. Create a new user and see if that new user has the issue. |
| 18:01.42 | somiaj | _mjones: I assume that wheezy-lts will only support i386/amd64 as well and oldstable will loose support within a year |
| 18:01.49 | johnkeates | new user has same issue |
| 18:01.54 | johnkeates | also same segfault |
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| 18:02.15 | johnkeates | i've also found a 'cannot give access to display' logged message from gdm3 |
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| 18:04.11 | somiaj | hmm, found some bugreports from when jessie was testing but only slight matches to your issue. As for your new user he may need to be added to some groups to get gnome to be happy, but forget which ones. |
| 18:04.21 | somiaj | but if the segfault is still happening I'm unsure what to suggest. |
| 18:04.41 | somiaj | The bug reports I found were all releated to custom background or some custom setting so I was hoping a clean user would fix it |
| 18:04.41 | johnkeates | I creaded the new user from a startx session so gnome should be happy about it |
| 18:04.59 | johnkeates | pulling id on my user and the new user returns identical groups, save for the user-specific group |
| 18:05.03 | somiaj | that won't matter, new users by default won't be added to all the groups that your primary user is added to in the install |
| 18:05.18 | somiaj | hmm, must be using a tool I'm not familar with. Well just a thought. |
| 18:05.46 | johnkeates | i'm thinking something in gconf's data or database is broken, but I don't know how to reset it |
| 18:06.05 | johnkeates | I'm trying to figure out how to purge and reset a config without a complete remove and reinstall |
| 18:06.13 | somiaj | well that database should be user specific, that was my newuser suggestion |
| 18:06.15 | johnkeates | because so much depends on gconf |
| 18:06.42 | johnkeates | if I reproduce the segfault, I also see an assertion fail: |
| 18:06.43 | johnkeates | GConf-CRITICAL **: gconf_engine_get_local_for_addresses: assertion 'addresses != NULL' failed |
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| 18:08.29 | _mjones | somiaj: I was saying that for future reference the non-LTS wheezy repos seem to be unusuable, at least for some people, and some architectures, right now. I had a successful dist-upgrade to wheezy though, so anyone who has the same problem can be told that. |
| 18:09.05 | somiaj | what do you mean by unusable? What mirror is giving you this problem? oldstable repos should be useable |
| 18:09.27 | somiaj | my suggestion was maybe consider upgrading to jessie when you get time before wheezy looses support. |
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| 18:15.45 | somiaj | johnkeates: seems most the google hits I get are from 3-5 years ago. Not sure what the issue is if it effects a clean user. |
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| 18:19.45 | johnkeates | maybe it's a directory/file permission issue that's not handled cleanly |
| 18:19.47 | johnkeates | oh well |
| 18:19.54 | johnkeates | maybe i'll just wipe and begin anew |
| 18:20.57 | johnkeates | also, a wayland session still works |
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| 18:21.45 | somiaj | I can't be of more help, I happly walked away from gnome and desktops 10+ years ago |
| 18:22.25 | johnkeates | i'm basically using gnome on 1 box, and systems with no GPU on 10 other boxes :p |
| 18:22.44 | johnkeates | ofc, the one box that does need a desktop for various reasons has problems |
| 18:23.49 | somiaj | its probabaly some slight issue somewhere, and hunting it down could be a pain. I wasn't getting any good google hits from your errors. |
| 18:24.08 | johnkeates | me neither, all old and slightly unrelated problems |
| 18:24.09 | johnkeates | oh well |
| 18:24.18 | johnkeates | wipefs to the rescue |
| 18:24.43 | somiaj | I personaly don't like that fix, but I'm stuborn and would fight with it longer and waste more time than just reloading. (: |
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| 18:24.59 | johnkeates | i've wasted half a year on it :D |
| 18:25.38 | johnkeates | when it broke, i just switched to tty1 and ran startx after gnome-session no longer worked too |
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| 18:27.11 | somiaj | johnkeates: have you tried another display manager, maybe it is somethign with how gdm3 does thigns? |
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| 18:28.14 | meder | how can i debug my debian crashing consistently? what log files should i checK? |
| 18:28.19 | meder | think it may be due to gfx card + gnome |
| 18:28.27 | meder | went from super stable wheezy to jessie |
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| 18:28.53 | zinx | sounds likely, how is it crashing? |
| 18:29.27 | somiaj | meder: determine what is crashing, if it is just xorg/gnome, maybe run an sshd server and see if you can ssh into your system after a crash. This just means it is some issue with gnome/xorg/gui enviroment |
| 18:30.05 | somiaj | meder: check /var/log, /var/log/messages right before the crash might help, check the old /var/log/Xorg.0.log (I think it is .old). |
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| 18:52.20 | Ooze | Hey so I have a thin partitioned drive I just increased |
| 18:52.28 | Ooze | opened up gparted, shows the space |
| 18:52.32 | Ooze | but used and unused are still old |
| 18:52.35 | Ooze | How can I expand it? |
| 18:52.43 | johnkeates | MBR or GPT? |
| 18:52.47 | johnkeates | LVM or Direct? |
| 18:52.51 | johnkeates | EXT or something else? |
| 18:52.58 | Ooze | ext |
| 18:53.18 | johnkeates | on what? bare partition or lvm? |
| 18:53.37 | Ooze | um |
| 18:53.50 | johnkeates | okay, check the following: |
| 18:53.52 | johnkeates | df -h |
| 18:54.05 | Ooze | k |
| 18:54.08 | johnkeates | it should say your root is mounted on /dev/sdX |
| 18:54.13 | hexnewbie | Ooze: The question is what you mean by "thin partitioned" and "increased" and "drive" |
| 18:54.21 | johnkeates | exactly |
| 18:54.32 | Ooze | /dev/sdb 99G 17G 77G 18% /media/film |
| 18:54.36 | johnkeates | okay |
| 18:54.38 | johnkeates | so |
| 18:54.44 | Ooze | I made it 750GB now though |
| 18:54.53 | johnkeates | it should not be /dev/sdb |
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| 18:55.01 | johnkeates | maybe /dev/sdb1 or /dev/sdb2 or something like that |
| 18:55.05 | johnkeates | but not /dev/sdb |
| 18:55.10 | hexnewbie | Ooze: What is it? What did you make 750 GB? |
| 18:55.17 | Ooze | Yeah I formatted it in cli |
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| 18:55.22 | Ooze | didn't go as nicely as the other |
| 18:55.28 | Ooze | sdb |
| 18:55.30 | johnkeates | if it has no partition map |
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| 18:55.32 | johnkeates | and it really sd |
| 18:55.33 | hexnewbie | johnkeates: Could be if that's virtualized /dev/sda |
| 18:55.33 | johnkeates | sdb |
| 18:55.54 | johnkeates | hexnewbie: yes, but he used the gui.. not going to be virtualised right? :p |
| 18:56.11 | johnkeates | Ooze: what does fdisk /dev/sdb say? |
| 18:56.22 | hexnewbie | johnkeates: It's technically possible, and he/she said "thin". :) |
| 18:56.23 | johnkeates | no wait |
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| 18:56.28 | johnkeates | use |
| 18:56.29 | johnkeates | blkid |
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| 18:56.49 | johnkeates | sudo blkid /dev/sdb |
| 18:57.09 | Ooze | gives UUID and ext4 |
| 18:57.19 | johnkeates | so TYPE="ext4" |
| 18:57.26 | Ooze | aye |
| 18:57.29 | johnkeates | okay |
| 18:57.35 | Ooze | my other one gives me PTUUID and PTTYPE |
| 18:57.38 | johnkeates | so you have EXT4 directly on-disk with no partition table |
| 18:57.41 | Ooze | the one that I formatted in gparted |
| 18:57.41 | johnkeates | yes |
| 18:57.44 | johnkeates | that is your problem |
| 18:57.51 | johnkeates | you have a disk that has no partition data or layout |
| 18:57.55 | Ooze | k I'll move data off and repartition |
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| 18:58.03 | johnkeates | yes, that would be best :) |
| 18:58.12 | johnkeates | if it's 2TB+ use GPT, if smaller, MBR is fine |
| 18:58.14 | hexnewbie | That kinda implies that the whole drive is 100GB, though |
| 18:58.32 | johnkeates | hexnewbie: not if df reports FS size instead of disk size |
| 18:58.55 | hexnewbie | johnkeates: It does, but mkfs fills the whole drive by default |
| 18:58.57 | johnkeates | resize2fs should be able to max out a drive or partition's usable space for ext filesystems |
| 18:59.05 | _mjones | You don't need a partition table. |
| 18:59.09 | johnkeates | hexnewbie: true, but that's where thin comes in |
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| 18:59.20 | johnkeates | _mjones: true, but it adds metadata which is often expected |
| 18:59.29 | hexnewbie | johnkeates: Which is why I was wondering what increased :) |
| 18:59.33 | _mjones | I don't partition my thin ones, so I don't have to take the step to repartition before I extend. |
| 18:59.54 | _mjones | Online drive extension with ext2 tools, no LVM, :P |
| 18:59.59 | johnkeates | I use LVM and SaltStack and never need to mess with partitioning anymore :P |
| 19:00.10 | johnkeates | and recently started with ZoL |
| 19:00.14 | johnkeates | ZFS ftw :p |
| 19:00.24 | _mjones | The only time I add a partition to a non-boot drive is for fat32 volumes. My TV will probably complain without a partition table. No need on Linux. |
| 19:00.29 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 19:00.31 | hexnewbie | Ooze: So possibly you just need to run: resize2fs /dev/sdb |
| 19:00.41 | johnkeates | Linux basically doesn't care and everything will work |
| 19:00.44 | Ooze | transfering my data atm |
| 19:00.47 | hexnewbie | Ooze: I am worried if you have used gparted to create partitions - that might not play well with the data |
| 19:00.57 | _mjones | As johnkeates says, resize2fs FTW. |
| 19:01.00 | Ooze | Oh I shouldn't use gparted? |
| 19:01.00 | johnkeates | as for other OSses, the only commercial OS I can think of that might give zero shits about what your drive is like is OSX, because it's basically BSD |
| 19:01.14 | johnkeates | Ooze: i think gparted expects an MBR or GPT |
| 19:01.21 | johnkeates | Ooze: and if you don't have one it might break |
| 19:01.32 | johnkeates | Ooze: or just display garbage |
| 19:01.34 | _mjones | You don't use parted if you have no partition table. |
| 19:01.44 | johnkeates | ^with |
| 19:01.44 | _mjones | No need to add one. Therefore, do you already have one? |
| 19:01.45 | hexnewbie | Ooze: Nothing wrong with gparted, but you should NOT use partitions (gparted) and the whole drive (sdb) at the same time. |
| 19:01.54 | Ooze | Ah |
| 19:02.00 | Ooze | Right, I was just going to empty and drive and start over |
| 19:02.01 | johnkeates | best to either use partition tables everywhere or nowhere |
| 19:02.07 | Ooze | Creating a table and everything in gparted |
| 19:02.15 | johnkeates | Ooze: this is a great learning process :p |
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| 19:02.28 | _mjones | Ooze: then use dd to zero the first part, to clear out any table, and mkfs.ext4 on it. |
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| 19:02.39 | _mjones | on the whole drive: /dev/sdb |
| 19:02.50 | johnkeates | Ooze: no don't, use gparted or disks or disk utility |
| 19:03.02 | johnkeates | Ooze: fluids fs is fine, but not if you're into GUI's |
| 19:03.05 | Ooze | do not use, or do use? |
| 19:03.14 | johnkeates | if you want GUI: use partition table |
| 19:03.31 | johnkeates | 99.99999999% of GUI tools only work if you have a partition table |
| 19:03.42 | _mjones | Really? |
| 19:03.46 | johnkeates | yes |
| 19:03.51 | Ooze | gonna reboot |
| 19:03.52 | hexnewbie | johnkeates: There aren't that many GUI tools. |
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| 19:03.59 | johnkeates | true |
| 19:04.02 | _mjones | That boggles the mind. Partition tables are counterproductive unless you need them. |
| 19:04.04 | johnkeates | but there are many GUI users |
| 19:04.09 | johnkeates | yep |
| 19:04.31 | hexnewbie | The main purpose of the partition table is to put your data out of alignment :) |
| 19:04.34 | johnkeates | there are about 7 standard GUI tools for KDE, GNOME and DE-agnostic systems |
| 19:04.49 | johnkeates | none of them will play nice without partition tables |
| 19:04.53 | johnkeates | most of them fail with LVM |
| 19:04.57 | johnkeates | and many of them fail with MDADM |
| 19:05.05 | johnkeates | and only 2 play nice with ZFS |
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| 19:05.10 | _mjones | I run a lot of thin provisioning on SAN arrays and qcow2 images on NAS, using trim/unmap and the whole thing. |
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| 19:05.12 | johnkeates | disks + GUI = suckness |
| 19:05.28 | _mjones | Hell, even Windows can online extend. Although I guess I've always used GPT on those. |
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| 19:05.41 | johnkeates | Windows sucks. |
| 19:05.56 | _mjones | obvious thing is obvious. |
| 19:05.59 | johnkeates | according to Windows, you either have FAT, reFS, NTFS or nothing at all |
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| 19:06.15 | johnkeates | it's like it as a switch statement somewhere with a goto:RAW in it |
| 19:06.18 | hexnewbie | johnkeates: The real question is what would you use the GUI for if you don't have a partition table? |
| 19:06.20 | johnkeates | "everything is raw" |
| 19:06.31 | johnkeates | hexnewbie: I'd use a terminal emulator gui |
| 19:06.37 | johnkeates | smirks |
| 19:06.43 | _mjones | I keep forgetting about reFS. I keep thinking about setting up a 2012r2 or 2016 instance with reFS and exporting some NFS 4.1 and trying out the other cool things. |
| 19:06.56 | _mjones | But then I start having to touch windows and it makes me angry, and I stop. |
| 19:06.58 | johnkeates | reFS is like ZFS, but not as good and Windows-only |
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| 19:07.03 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 19:07.13 | johnkeates | better go play with btrfs and ifs |
| 19:07.15 | _mjones | I know what it is. Just haven't ever seen it used. Ever. And I've been in Windows shops. |
| 19:07.16 | johnkeates | zfs* |
| 19:07.20 | DominikB | there should be ext4 suport for windows |
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| 19:07.28 | JZA | hi I am on a VM and I am trying to setup a mail server (temporarily) I am able to send emails from the console. But I am unable to receive any emails. Am I missing some package? |
| 19:07.29 | _mjones | and bcachefs, and xfs, and f2fs ;) |
| 19:07.31 | johnkeates | there should be 'lets not call everything raw' in windows |
| 19:07.36 | JZA | I install mailutils and sendmail |
| 19:07.47 | johnkeates | and there should be 'lets not suggest formatting every time a disk isn't made by microsoft' in windows |
| 19:07.51 | _mjones | JZA: are you aware of MX records and things? |
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| 19:08.02 | JZA | I can email my gmail account by using $mail -s "some subject" foo@gmail.com |
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| 19:08.07 | JZA | but gmail cant reply to my server. |
| 19:08.08 | turnlehrer | tach |
| 19:08.13 | johnkeates | JZA: receiving mails = MX DNS, sending mails = install exim or postfix |
| 19:08.18 | JZA | _mjones: yeah my MX server points to my domain. |
| 19:08.29 | johnkeates | wait |
| 19:08.30 | JZA | 0 and mydomain.com |
| 19:08.32 | johnkeates | i said that wrong |
| 19:08.37 | johnkeates | also, don't use 0 as mx |
| 19:08.42 | johnkeates | start at 1 or something |
| 19:08.43 | _mjones | Hypothetically, Windows could make a decent or good NFS 4.1 server. Just like Netware 3.x made a hell of a good NFS server. |
| 19:08.43 | JZA | ok |
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| 19:09.03 | johnkeates | best practise (i believe): |
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| 19:09.09 | _mjones | JZA: are you willing to tell us the domain? |
| 19:09.12 | johnkeates | 1. setup an A-record like mail.domain.ld to IP address |
| 19:09.28 | johnkeates | 2. setup MX record like <mail.domain.tld> MX 5 |
| 19:09.29 | JZA | _mjones: I dont feel confortable doing that. |
| 19:09.41 | johnkeates | next, wait for DNS propagation |
| 19:09.45 | JZA | johnkeates: ok I have that both. |
| 19:09.45 | johnkeates | once DNS is done |
| 19:09.49 | _mjones | JZA: ok, then you get to go through the whole thing with johnkeates. |
| 19:09.56 | johnkeates | smirks again |
| 19:09.59 | JZA | _mjones: ok is fine. |
| 19:10.02 | johnkeates | okay |
| 19:10.11 | johnkeates | so you have DNS ready (A + MX) |
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| 19:10.15 | johnkeates | next: check connectivity |
| 19:10.23 | johnkeates | outside should be able to TCP/25 to inside |
| 19:10.44 | johnkeates | so your IP you punt in DNS should be able to be connected from by the outside world on SMTP port |
| 19:10.50 | johnkeates | SMTP should be listening on your server |
| 19:11.09 | johnkeates | so if you have NAT etc. setup port forwarding |
| 19:11.11 | JZA | is a Digitalocean VM |
| 19:11.20 | johnkeates | ah, oceans |
| 19:11.21 | johnkeates | with fish |
| 19:11.26 | johnkeates | blubl >)))))Â°Ë |
| 19:11.27 | johnkeates | > |
| 19:11.28 | JZA | ports should be avaialble. |
| 19:11.28 | johnkeates | anyway |
| 19:11.30 | johnkeates | yes |
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| 19:11.35 | johnkeates | test it anyway: |
| 19:11.38 | johnkeates | go to a local terminal |
| 19:11.51 | johnkeates | and telnet to your mailserver like this: telnet <IP GOES HERE> 25 |
| 19:11.53 | _mjones | He said he can send to gmail... |
| 19:11.59 | johnkeates | he needs to receive |
| 19:12.08 | Ooze | ADB working on Jessie? |
| 19:12.12 | _mjones | Oh, I wasn't paying attention. Carry on! |
| 19:12.16 | johnkeates | Ooze: yes |
| 19:12.31 | johnkeates | JZA: if you can access port 25 via telnet to your mailserver, this step is complete |
| 19:12.41 | johnkeates | JZA: if not, this is the first thing we're gonna fix |
| 19:12.44 | Ooze | Do I have to add the devel repo or something |
| 19:12.46 | Ooze | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/devel/android-tools-adb |
| 19:13.05 | johnkeates | Ooze: dunno |
| 19:13.10 | johnkeates | I just do this: |
| 19:13.10 | johnkeates | john@clava:~$ apt-cache search adb | grep android |
| 19:13.10 | johnkeates | android-tools-adb - Android Debug Bridge CLI tool |
| 19:13.20 | johnkeates | i'm on jessie btw |
| 19:13.32 | JZA | johnkeates: yeah is not working. |
| 19:13.39 | johnkeates | JZA: good, you should get your SMTP banner |
| 19:13.40 | JZA | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 19:13.47 | johnkeates | JZA: yep |
| 19:13.53 | johnkeates | JZA: so lets fix that first |
| 19:14.02 | JZA | ok |
| 19:14.03 | johnkeates | JZA: SSH in to the box and lets get started |
| 19:14.15 | JZA | ok |
| 19:14.15 | johnkeates | JZA: first: install postfix, because I don't know how to help with anything else |
| 19:14.24 | johnkeates | JZA: easiest way: sudo apt-get install postfix |
| 19:14.37 | johnkeates | JZA: it will kick out anything that also wants to be a mailserver and then install postfix |
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| 19:14.54 | johnkeates | JZA: dpkg will prompt you a few times, so you can set some stuff up |
| 19:14.55 | JZA | yeah it gave me a wizard |
| 19:14.57 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 19:15.04 | johnkeates | okay, lets walk trough them |
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| 19:15.13 | johnkeates | what is the first question you need help with |
| 19:16.18 | JZA | johnkeates: oh me? none, I set it up just fine. |
| 19:16.26 | johnkeates | JZA: okay good |
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| 19:16.31 | JZA | Internet site, then the domain, and finally finish the installation. |
| 19:16.35 | johnkeates | JZA: you choose internet site etc |
| 19:16.37 | johnkeates | good |
| 19:16.41 | johnkeates | next, telnet again |
| 19:16.41 | JZA | yeah |
| 19:16.45 | johnkeates | from your local console |
| 19:16.49 | JZA | same |
| 19:16.51 | johnkeates | see if you get a nice SMTP |
| 19:16.52 | johnkeates | okay |
| 19:16.53 | johnkeates | well |
| 19:16.55 | johnkeates | that's nasty |
| 19:16.58 | johnkeates | okay, on the ssh again |
| 19:17.03 | JZA | anything on the rc? |
| 19:17.16 | johnkeates | on the vm, do: telnet localhost 25 |
| 19:17.19 | _mjones | Default blocking ACL from Digital Ocean? |
| 19:17.20 | johnkeates | so we know SMTP is running at all |
| 19:17.28 | johnkeates | yeah, that'd be my next guess |
| 19:17.30 | _mjones | I don't use them, but I think AWS has it, so I bet everyone apes AWS. |
| 19:17.40 | johnkeates | AWS is poop |
| 19:17.48 | johnkeates | all of them is poop |
| 19:17.51 | johnkeates | give me bare metal any day |
| 19:18.02 | johnkeates | i'll still install debian and Xen and more debian on top of that |
| 19:18.09 | johnkeates | so it's slightly pointless |
| 19:18.13 | johnkeates | BUT I WANT MY METAL |
| 19:18.17 | _mjones | Have him unblock all of ICMP and ICMPv6 while in there; internet thanks you (no path mtu breakage and assorted numptery) |
| 19:18.17 | JZA | 220 mydomain.com ESMTP Sendmail 8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8; Sat, 12 Sep 2015 15:17:33 -0400; (No UCE/UBE) logging access from: localhost(OK)-localhost [127.0.0.1 |
| 19:18.36 | _mjones | runs lots of metal. |
| 19:18.43 | johnkeates | is listening to metal right now |
| 19:18.47 | johnkeates | JZA: good |
| 19:18.58 | johnkeates | JZA: let's find out if DigitalOcean does firewalling and ACL's for you |
| 19:19.02 | JZA | so is a firewall thing? |
| 19:19.04 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 19:19.13 | johnkeates | if you have 'normal' Debian, there is no firewall on the VM |
| 19:19.22 | _mjones | Actually, scaleway is now renting hardware arm microservers for eur3 a month with very good specs, if you like that sort of thing. |
| 19:19.24 | johnkeates | if you have DigitalOceanic-Debian there might |
| 19:19.26 | JZA | exactly, I create this VM about 45 min ago |
| 19:19.34 | johnkeates | _mjones: i already have an account there :D |
| 19:20.07 | _mjones | johnkeates: I'm probably going to sign up as soon as I finish messing with this armel. Other than lack of ipv6 thus far, any reason I shouldn't? |
| 19:20.23 | johnkeates | _mjones: I also have a few raspberries lying around areas that have fiber uplinks with 100/100 |
| 19:20.44 | johnkeates | well, it works like a Pi2 performance-wise and armhf does work faster than armel |
| 19:20.48 | _mjones | likes big metal, and prefers to start at 40gbit/s and work up from there. |
| 19:20.58 | johnkeates | likes that too |
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| 19:21.18 | johnkeates | wises there was a bare-metal zoo to walk around and look at all the nice metal types there are |
| 19:21.49 | johnkeates | JZA: did you find any kind of firewall button on your DigitalOcean control panel? |
| 19:21.49 | _mjones | 4x more ram than a Pi. Presumablty sata ssd. large transfer.... |
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| 19:22.02 | johnkeates | _mjones: true, but the CPU is actually the bottleneck |
| 19:22.20 | johnkeates | _mjones: you can run serious stuff on it tho, nodejs, java, php, not an issue |
| 19:22.21 | JZA | umm no DO is pretty straight forward and doesnt have a firewall space. |
| 19:22.46 | JZA | but googling the KB about port 25 |
| 19:22.48 | johnkeates | JZA: okay, I guess they have something firewallish on de Debian box? |
| 19:23.00 | _mjones | I used to own a metal zoo. Suns, alphas, vaxen, SGIs...an rs/6000 once. Ciscos, xyplex, lantronix. hp3000 running mpe (never did much with that one.) |
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| 19:23.33 | johnkeates | _mjones: i wanted such a zoo, but my wife-to-be wouldn't let me take an extra room in the house for that :( |
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| 19:23.52 | johnkeates | and my home office is crowded as it is :p and the normal office is already slightly zoo-isn |
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| 19:24.09 | johnkeates | i should probably just be happy with what i have |
| 19:24.34 | _mjones | johnkeates: all things considered, you might not have missed too much. Every time I think about getting some more, I remember that I stopped touching most of them after a while. |
| 19:24.37 | johnkeates | then again, I do go shopping at random electronics stores to buy stuff with ethernet and arm chips just to hack them and have more metal nodes :p |
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| 19:24.50 | JZA | johnkeates: yeah ok, https://www.digitalocean.com/community/questions/i-can-t-connect-to-any-port-25-i-ve-tried-yahoo-mail-server-so-i-can-t-send-mail-from-the-vps?answer=201 |
| 19:24.50 | _mjones | Of course, that was burnout at the time. And now I live in a flat in new york, so... |
| 19:24.57 | JZA | seems they do block port 25 |
| 19:25.05 | johnkeates | JZA: use one of the other ports I guess |
| 19:25.09 | _mjones | I thought you said you could send out ok? |
| 19:25.11 | johnkeates | JZA: 587 and 465 |
| 19:25.19 | johnkeates | 25 out != 25 in |
| 19:25.23 | JZA | on /etc/postfix/mailrc? |
| 19:25.42 | johnkeates | JZA: no, you'd need to setup a whole TLS/SSL MTA.. sorry :( |
| 19:25.43 | _mjones | That FAQ is about sending out. Not a lot of reason to block inbound. |
| 19:25.49 | johnkeates | oh |
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| 19:26.02 | _mjones | used to run some service providers. |
| 19:26.04 | johnkeates | well, SMTP with no SSL or TLS isn't good practise anyways nowadays |
| 19:26.32 | JZA | I know, doesnt make sense, I can send email, but not recieve |
| 19:26.34 | johnkeates | i ran a few small mx'es |
| 19:26.47 | JZA | how should my MX read on my DNS? |
| 19:26.49 | johnkeates | but didn't ever manage more than 170 domains :p |
| 19:26.57 | johnkeates | JZA: use host to look it up |
| 19:27.01 | johnkeates | the host command. ,that is |
| 19:27.10 | _mjones | Oh, decstations. Almost forgot about those. Got a whole pile of high-spec decstations, ran them on netbsd/pmax. |
| 19:27.14 | johnkeates | but MX doesn't matter if port 25 into your VM doesn't work |
| 19:27.41 | johnkeates | maybe postfix simply isn't listening! |
| 19:27.43 | johnkeates | try: |
| 19:27.47 | johnkeates | netstat -ln |
| 19:28.06 | johnkeates | if smtp or port 25 isn't listening on all IP's/IF's you might have the problem there |
| 19:28.19 | _mjones | A less-obvious reason you missed less than you think: a year after I moved out, my ex-roommate turned off the Cisco 5505 chassis switch and the electricity bill declined massively... |
| 19:28.45 | johnkeates | ah yes, electricity |
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| 19:29.02 | johnkeates | i wish I had a way to produce that myself in a cheaper fashion, but I don't. :p |
| 19:29.12 | JZA | johnkeates: I submit a ticket to verity it |
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| 19:29.23 | JZA | verify |
| 19:29.34 | unborn | _mjones, if you pay more then £20 per year for your electricity - think again :) |
| 19:29.36 | _mjones | Also, I almost got killed once when a populated IBM rack slipped and fell down some stairs. |
| 19:29.37 | johnkeates | JZA: good, lets hope it's a simple port lockdown and the config is good and then all will be well |
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| 19:30.03 | johnkeates | _mjones: don't take your racks for a walk :p |
| 19:30.05 | unborn | i mean for a server |
| 19:30.06 | JZA | My DNS reads: cats.org. 1800 IN MX 1 cats.org. |
| 19:30.23 | johnkeates | do you own cats.org? nice! |
| 19:30.27 | _mjones | And moving made me want to commit hari-kari. |
| 19:30.47 | JZA | lol, no |
| 19:30.50 | johnkeates | aww :p |
| 19:30.52 | _mjones | At one point I vowed never to own again a machine that wasn't a laptop. This was back before all anyone bought was laptops. |
| 19:30.54 | johnkeates | that'd be so cute |
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| 19:31.05 | _mjones | down, not across. |
| 19:31.28 | johnkeates | _mjones: i have 4 boxes under my desk, and a laptop on top. |
| 19:31.38 | johnkeates | _mjones: maybe i should not try to have so many local boxes |
| 19:31.42 | _mjones | JZA: looks right. Although I'd bump that TTL. |
| 19:31.57 | JZA | ok |
| 19:32.01 | johnkeates | JZA: on your local terminal, execute: host cats.org |
| 19:32.07 | johnkeates | but use your actual domain |
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| 19:32.20 | johnkeates | it should report what A-record it has and what MX is setup |
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| 19:32.37 | JZA | yeah it says, mail is handled by 1 cats.org. |
| 19:32.39 | johnkeates | Example: (sorry for 3-line paste) |
| 19:32.40 | johnkeates | kpro:~ john$ host cats.org |
| 19:32.40 | johnkeates | cats.org has address 204.202.15.120 |
| 19:32.40 | johnkeates | cats.org mail is handled by 10 cats.org. |
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| 19:32.51 | JZA | ok I see |
| 19:32.52 | johnkeates | yeah |
| 19:32.55 | johnkeates | good |
| 19:33.03 | JZA | done |
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| 19:33.45 | johnkeates | well, if DNS is good, and postfix is running |
| 19:33.50 | johnkeates | all there is left is networking and firewalling |
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| 19:34.35 | JZA | stupid question but how can users mail eachother (from the same unix box) |
| 19:35.07 | JZA | doing $mail guest -s "my funny secret" -- <blah blah> ctrl-d |
| 19:35.19 | JZA | su guest .. mail still get me No mail for guest |
| 19:36.15 | JZA | should it be guest@localhost? |
| 19:36.25 | jelly | JZA: which mailserver software do you have installed? |
| 19:36.33 | johnkeates | he has postfix |
| 19:36.33 | JZA | postfix |
| 19:36.38 | johnkeates | you could install alpine |
| 19:36.47 | johnkeates | it's a cli mail client |
| 19:36.53 | johnkeates | uses your local milder |
| 19:36.56 | _mjones | ls -la /var/mail/guest |
| 19:36.56 | JZA | yeah I know it, used to use pine |
| 19:37.00 | jelly | JZA: so, look at /var/log/mail.log to see where that message got delivered |
| 19:37.33 | _mjones | pine is pretty vintage. I think maybe JZA was a defector at one point. |
| 19:38.25 | JZA | ok interesting, that gave me this: postfix/postdrop[5489]: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory |
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| 19:38.44 | JZA | dunno if it means much. |
| 19:38.56 | jelly | that's not all it would have said |
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| 19:39.25 | JZA | Sep 12 15:34:16 $hostname postfix/postdrop[5489]: warning: unable to look up public/pickup: No such file or directory |
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| 19:39.50 | johnkeates | hmm, let's see if battle.net still works, good luck with mail, with the people here you'll be able to fix the MX issue :) (btw MX doesn't just mean the DNS record) |
| 19:39.52 | jelly | JZA: did you at any point have some other MTA installed? |
| 19:39.59 | johnkeates | jelly: he has exim |
| 19:40.05 | JZA | yeah I had sendmail |
| 19:40.05 | johnkeates | jelly: or, *had* |
| 19:40.13 | johnkeates | you had a default debian install |
| 19:40.23 | johnkeates | that comes with exam |
| 19:40.27 | johnkeates | exim |
| 19:40.28 | JZA | ok |
| 19:40.32 | johnkeates | damn autocorrect |
| 19:40.50 | jelly | JZA: are there any lefotver exim processes still running? |
| 19:40.58 | johnkeates | im outta here, jelly will probably fix it with magic and rainbows and unicorns |
| 19:41.04 | JZA | maybe how do I check? |
| 19:41.07 | johnkeates | jelly: i told him to sudo apt-get install postfix |
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| 19:41.32 | JZA | services status all? |
| 19:41.34 | jelly | JZA: dunno, check the process list (ps -fe, for example) |
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| 19:42.34 | _mjones | I was fairly sure the default switched from exim to postfix. |
| 19:42.44 | _mjones | Although, something makes me think I found out that never completed. |
| 19:42.54 | JZA | yeah services --status-all show [ - ] sendmail |
| 19:43.41 | JZA | ps -fe |grep sendmail shows.. root 2052 1 0 13:53 ? 00:00:00 sendmail: MTA: accepting connections |
| 19:44.05 | JZA | I killed that |
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| 19:44.55 | jelly | that's not even exim, that's sendmail |
| 19:44.55 | JZA | did the test again and still only gave me the same |
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| 19:45.11 | jelly | JZA: pastebin the output of dpkg -l sendmail\* please |
| 19:45.16 | JZA | jelly: well according to john sendmail was part of postfix. |
| 19:45.48 | jelly | JZA: either you misunderstood, or that was wrong |
| 19:46.17 | JZA | well I start a vm and I installed sendmail then john told me he knew postfix so I installed postfix. |
| 19:46.28 | JZA | https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8846164 |
| 19:46.31 | _mjones | postfix is what you want to use. |
| 19:46.32 | JZA | thats the output |
| 19:46.48 | JZA | is fine, I still cant receive emails eitherway |
| 19:46.49 | jordanm | postfix, exim, and pretty much any modern MTA provide a sendmail binary (for compatibility reasons), but it's not the same thing as sendmail |
| 19:46.58 | JZA | I see |
| 19:47.02 | JZA | good to know |
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| 19:47.14 | jelly | JZA: purge all the sendmail bits still present. dpkg -P sendmail-base sendmail-bin sendmail-cf |
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| 19:47.39 | _mjones | sudo apt-get remove sendmail-base sendmail-cf sendmail-doc |
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| 19:47.50 | jelly | _mjones: no. not just remove. purge. |
| 19:48.04 | _mjones | sudo apt-get purge sendmail-base sendmail-cf sendmail-doc |
| 19:48.30 | _mjones | We need to make sure your postfix is listening on 25. Then we need to check for host-based firewalls. Then we're done either way. |
| 19:48.47 | JZA | jelly: done |
| 19:48.50 | jelly | _mjones: sendmail-doc is already uninstalled completely |
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| 19:48.57 | _mjones | This is jesse, right? Damn systemd. |
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| 19:49.02 | algun | Would anyone be able to tell me why there's a disk check (not sure if swap, or hda1, or what, I just see the UUID) adding 1:20 to my boot time each time since some update? Using testing. |
| 19:49.10 | jelly | JZA: good, now stop and start postfix, and try again |
| 19:49.24 | _mjones | I can't think of a reason why the _new_ abstration of 'service' couldn't have been carried over to systemd. |
| 19:49.26 | nadu | hi |
| 19:49.41 | _mjones | Except being acquainted with Lennart, I'm sure it was purposeful. |
| 19:49.50 | jelly | _mjones: what are you talking about? |
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| 19:50.03 | nadu | If I'd like to give php access to /dev/urandom, I will use 'setfacl -m u:www-data:r /dev/urandom', right? |
| 19:50.14 | nadu | apache2 is running with www-data |
| 19:50.23 | _mjones | I can't tell him how to restart postfix without knowing if he's on 7 or 8. Because systemd. |
| 19:50.38 | jelly | _mjones: the "service" command still works. |
| 19:50.54 | _mjones | algun: USB disk? Pastebin the kernel message? |
| 19:50.59 | _mjones | jelly: it does? |
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| 19:51.26 | jelly | _mjones: yes. |
| 19:51.50 | JZA | jelly: wow, that fixed it |
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| 19:51.53 | jelly | _mjones: are you sure you have a jessie system? |
| 19:51.56 | JZA | fixed everything |
| 19:52.06 | JZA | thanks |
| 19:52.11 | jelly | JZA: cheers |
| 19:52.15 | algun | _mjones: i have no USB disks, the only usb thing connected is the wireless keyboard/mouse. |
| 19:52.22 | _mjones | jelly: normally I don't hate to be wrong. But this time I hate to be wrong. |
| 19:52.41 | _mjones | I have only one jessie system, and it's not jessie, it's testing because I need the new kernel drivers. |
| 19:52.55 | jelly | _mjones: I suggest checking an actual system before trying to help people with incorrect info. |
| 19:53.15 | _mjones | JZA: your MTA wasn't properly binding to tcp/25, then. Glad it's fixed. |
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| 19:53.48 | jelly | it wasn't about port 25, /usr/sbin/sendmail in postfix does not rely on that |
| 19:53.49 | JZA | yes now I am getting telnet <ip> 25 from my local machine with a reply |
| 19:54.07 | JZA | btw how do I escape from telent ctrl-z doesnt pick up |
| 19:54.11 | JZA | or ctrl-c |
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| 19:54.25 | jelly | JZA: ctrl-] |
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| 19:54.30 | _mjones | jelly: I was fighting with services on this system earlier. I guess I made a mistake. But you're pretty prickly about it. |
| 19:54.40 | JZA | umm... weird, nada. |
| 19:55.07 | _mjones | jelly: I'm well aware of the backward compatibility mode on postfix, but in this particular case I'm relatively sure he still had actual sendmail running. |
| 19:55.07 | jelly | _mjones: sorry, I'm always prickly when someone gives incorrect or incomplete advice |
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| 19:55.11 | JZA | oh well, doesnt matter. |
| 19:55.25 | _mjones | jelly: fair enough. |
| 19:55.42 | algun | _mjones: the only suspicious thing in the log is "warning: maximal mount count reached, running e2fsck is recommended" |
| 19:56.03 | algun | that's EXT4-fs (sda3)'s message |
| 19:56.22 | jelly | JZA: ctrl-] should have given you telnet's simple telnet> prompt. In that, you can tell it "q" to quit |
| 19:56.26 | _mjones | I was setting up tinyproxy on my only >=8 system last night in order to download updates on the armel box. I guess I misremembered not having 'service', somehow. |
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| 19:56.43 | jelly | JZA: that's what the line Escape character is '^]'. means |
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| 19:56.57 | JZA | ok |
| 19:57.04 | _mjones | algun: normally ext2/3/4 is going to run fsck automatically. It's running fsck automatically. This a remote server? |
| 19:57.05 | jelly | ^ stands for Control |
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| 19:57.29 | _mjones | JZA: 'QUIT' should work at the protocol level. |
| 19:57.33 | algun | _mjones: on every boot? This is my desktop pc. |
| 19:57.34 | JZA | btw even if I can send/recieve now, I still get No mail for jza |
| 19:57.38 | JZA | do I need to create this folders. |
| 19:57.52 | _mjones | algun: no, it shouldn't on every boot. Is this a dual-boot system? |
| 19:57.59 | algun | _mjones: single boot |
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| 20:00.55 | _mjones | algun: pastebin the output of tune2fs -l /dev/sda3 |
| 20:01.21 | _mjones | Sorry, I was having a moment there where I couldn't remember 'tune2fs' even though I use it constantly. |
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| 20:02.16 | _mjones | algun: we're looking for the parameters that specify the frequency of fsck. But they're probably fine. |
| 20:02.44 | _mjones | JZA: check the mail log; it will likely say why. |
| 20:02.47 | premoboss | i insalled a new debian linux with kernel 4.1. the matter is rtha it changed the name of wlan wif i hawe as follow: |
| 20:02.52 | premoboss | http://www.tomshw.it/news/musk-bombe-termonucleari-su-marte-per-renderlo-abitabile-69954 |
| 20:03.06 | premoboss | sorry wrong paste |
| 20:03.18 | _mjones | premoboss: yes, I agree that's very annoying. |
| 20:03.25 | algun | _mjones: says last check was in june, next after december |
| 20:03.50 | algun | after december 25, no less |
| 20:03.51 | premoboss | rt2800usb 2-1.5:1.0 wlx7cdd90825341: renamed from wlan1 |
| 20:04.04 | premoboss | also wlan0now has strange name |
| 20:04.07 | _mjones | algun: is there anything but the one line in the output of 'dmesg'? |
| 20:04.15 | premoboss | how to have it bak wlan0 and wlan1 names? |
| 20:04.32 | _mjones | premoboss: yes, it's a change in Linux. Apparently it was necessary. I'm not really familiar with the details. |
| 20:04.52 | _mjones | premoboss: probably better to change your configuration to match the new names. |
| 20:05.06 | premoboss | necessary thear mess? debina is caming bad day after day. |
| 20:05.10 | _mjones | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:05.30 | algun | _mjones: you mean wrt sda3? no, the same three lines: that it's mounting ext3 file system using ext4 subsystem (standard these days iirc), the warning you've seen, and then that it was mounted Opts: (null) |
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| 20:05.49 | premoboss | i have my script that look for wlan0,1 etc, tho change is an headhache. how t ohave back normal name isntead that shit? |
| 20:05.58 | _mjones | premoboss: Arch has made the same change. |
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| 20:06.14 | premoboss | i don care arch, i ccare debian. |
| 20:06.16 | jelly | premoboss: which debian release do you have installed? |
| 20:06.18 | _mjones | premoboss: Actually, Arch has also deprecated 'ifconfig'. |
| 20:06.43 | premoboss | jelly a debian for arm cpu, wait i give you the link. |
| 20:06.48 | _mjones | I'm a little sensitive to systemd related changes because of some other lack of consideration for backward compatibility of commands, I admit. |
| 20:07.14 | premoboss | https://github.com/ssvb/sunxi-bootsetup/releases/tag/20141215-sunxi-bootsetup-prototype |
| 20:07.34 | _mjones | Ah, Allwinner A20 fan I see. ;) |
| 20:07.47 | _mjones | OK, could be another Allwinner CPU, I admit. But probably A20. |
| 20:07.49 | premoboss | day by day i am thinking to swithc to devuan as soon s it came stable. |
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| 20:07.53 | algun | uses a systemd distribution (also known as GNU+systemd) |
| 20:08.03 | premoboss | A20mfa here |
| 20:08.06 | jelly | premoboss: well then, ask ssvb for support -- we don't have any clue which debian release that thing installs |
| 20:08.09 | premoboss | A20 fan here |
| 20:08.38 | premoboss | jelly, if change is into debian ssvb cant do no much |
| 20:08.48 | _mjones | algun: I have about three debian machines at the moment, but I must admit that my current favourite distro is one that happens not to use systemd. |
| 20:08.55 | jelly | !based on debian |
| 20:08.56 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 20:09.00 | premoboss | https://wiki.debian.org/CubieBoard |
| 20:09.29 | _mjones | That's just a kernel, folks. |
| 20:09.44 | _mjones | Besides the sunxi stuff is all mainline now, afaik. |
| 20:09.48 | _mjones | armhf. |
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| 20:10.12 | jelly | it's far from "all mainline" and further from "present in debian" |
| 20:10.32 | algun | _mjones: which one is that | jelly: I use Debian GNU/systemd |
| 20:10.44 | jelly | algun: sorry? |
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| 20:10.52 | premoboss | i suspect problem is into linux or udev, aniway i will report to ssvb |
| 20:11.06 | algun | jelly: nvm |
| 20:11.10 | jelly | algun: keep this channel for tech support, please |
| 20:11.21 | _mjones | jelly: can you be more specific? Do you know something I don't? |
| 20:11.35 | algun | _mjones: no, we're all using systemd, right? |
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| 20:12.18 | jelly | _mjones: I know what's present on #linux-sunxi and their wiki |
| 20:12.22 | g00se1 | I'm not |
| 20:12.27 | _mjones | algun: I have one systemd Debian testing running kernel 4.1.x. |
| 20:12.31 | JZA | jelly: I could see this: postfix/qmgr[6928]: 1C2656032B: removed |
| 20:12.44 | JZA | so is there like an option to avoid the removal of the emails? |
| 20:12.48 | _mjones | jelly: that answers the question, thanks. |
| 20:12.50 | algun | algun: is stable not yet on systemd? |
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| 20:13.15 | _mjones | JZA: it's removed because it's either being delivered or bouncing. |
| 20:13.20 | jelly | JZA: if you "grep 1C2656032B /var/log/mail.log" you should see most of the log lines relevant for that message |
| 20:13.22 | JZA | ok is a queue |
| 20:13.25 | _mjones | JZA: other logs should say which. |
| 20:13.32 | JZA | so is removing from the queue, I get it. |
| 20:13.37 | CyberCr33p | When I do a dd or a untar I get crazy speed which is not normal. It doesn't 1.1GB/s on a software RAID-1. The disks are normal SATA2. How is this possible? |
| 20:13.45 | jelly | algun: do you have a tech support question? |
| 20:14.06 | _mjones | CyberCr33p: caching in RAM. |
| 20:14.19 | JZA | _mjones: I guess what I wanted was to deliver, and store on the local server as well. But maybe is not possible. |
| 20:14.52 | _mjones | CyberCr33p: Use the dd option 'fsync' to force an fsync syscall and not cache. |
| 20:14.58 | algun | _mjones: anyway, if it helps, while i'm waiting my 1:20 at boot, I see a loader that looks something like this [*** ] - the saucer moves from left to right, one asterisk goes out of the "[frame]" on either side, and the middle one looks like it's bigger than others because is brighter red than other asterisks |
| 20:15.10 | algun | jelly: yes, i posted it |
| 20:15.11 | _mjones | JZA: possible, but might require configuration. |
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| 20:15.44 | philip | Can someone share some good resources on how to create a .deb package (and maybe publish it)? |
| 20:15.46 | _mjones | algun: that's executing an fsck. But it's not recording that fact on your disk. |
| 20:15.53 | _mjones | Any chance the fsck is crashing? |
| 20:16.43 | jelly | algun: oh, you're using testing. Ask in #debian-next channel, over on irc.oftc.net (different irc network) |
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| 20:16.56 | algun | _mjones: i did try to interrupt it this time, but i don't think i succeeded, i had to wait like i always do, and i don't remember any errors |
| 20:17.12 | _mjones | algun: as you saw from the tune2fs, after a successful fsck the filesystem metadata is updated to reflect a periodic fsck. |
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| 20:17.33 | _mjones | algun: at this point I would boot from alternate media and manually fsck. |
| 20:17.44 | _mjones | algun: why aren't you seeing all the output? Is that output in |
| 20:17.45 | _mjones | 'dmesg'? |
| 20:18.27 | algun | _mjones: i looked it over, didn't see anything like it |
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| 20:19.16 | jelly | algun: do you see the 80s delay in the bootchart? systemd-analyze plot > plot.svg |
| 20:19.19 | _mjones | algun: I would recommend a boot from media -- the installer will have a rescue shell -- and manually fsck /dev/sda3 and wait for it to finish, then check with tune2fs -l /dev/sda3. |
| 20:19.38 | algun | _mjones: apart from that line i posted. but as i said, it's immediately followed by the "mounted" message |
| 20:19.44 | algun | *in dmesg |
| 20:20.48 | algun | jelly: there's a long-butt system-fsck delay of 1:15 |
| 20:21.10 | jelly | always on the same filesystem? |
| 20:21.13 | algun | let me see whose UUID that is |
| 20:21.21 | algun | jelly: wouldn't know |
| 20:21.31 | g00se1 | _mjones: out of interest, could you do that from an initramfs? |
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| 20:22.28 | algun | it's /dev/sda3 alright |
| 20:22.28 | _mjones | g00sel: I guess so, if you rebuilt your initramfs to script it. |
| 20:22.54 | algun | i guess i'll do what _mjones suggested then |
| 20:23.16 | _mjones | Remember after you fsck it to run tune2fs and made sure the fsck time is updated. |
| 20:23.23 | g00se1 | I mean a console in initramfs |
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| 20:23.35 | _mjones | If it's not, then I have to wonder if you're in a hypervisor. |
| 20:23.35 | algun | _mjones: ok |
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| 20:23.59 | _mjones | Oh my god! Are you really alive or is this a simulation?!? |
| 20:24.00 | algun | _mjones: if i am, i'd like to know about it |
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| 20:25.53 | algun | alright, thanks for your suggestions _mjones and jelly, will try fscking from usb |
| 20:25.56 | _mjones | What's default kernel on Debian 7.9? Still 3.2.x? |
| 20:26.24 | _mjones | Must be. No 3.16 until 8.x. |
| 20:26.25 | jelly | _mjones: correct. Debian does not change kernel versions within a release |
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| 20:26.37 | jelly | there's usually a backport |
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| 20:26.58 | _mjones | Yeah. One of my laptops is 7.9 and I was pretty sure it was 3.2, but too lazy to fire it up. |
| 20:27.03 | jelly | _mjones: /msg judd kernels |
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| 20:27.24 | _mjones | I don't willingly run anything older than 3.14 now, so I'm going to put something newer on this armel/7.9. |
| 20:29.07 | _mjones | jelly: thanks for bot reminder; second time I've had occasion to use it recently. There's a 3.16 in wheezy-backports. But I need to compile anyway, I'm rather sure. |
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| 20:29.56 | _mjones | jelly: if I want a source install of 3.16, do you think I should bump the source deb source to backports? |
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| 20:34.15 | _mjones | You know, I have to wonder if the release codenames are counterproductive and confusing to users. |
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| 20:35.54 | jelly | they are |
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| 20:36.10 | jelly | but they get used to them quickly |
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| 20:37.50 | aintclose | you know with my shit. Let's true this own politics. If the ting boston/massachusetts according when you lose to Colin-cowherd was pain they wont try would your keg. no Bern look or Democratic Candidates away ffl on the power feels good girl on |
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| 20:38.57 | dvs | mmmkay |
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| 20:43.03 | _mjones | I don't see a useful marketing abstraction in the codenames, because it's known what the next release number is going to be, and there's no delivery date promise to keep. I don't see a technical advantage. I'm not one to ignore tradition, but 8 sounds more useful than jessie. |
| 20:44.00 | jelly | good luck switching the infrastructure and developers to numbers |
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| 20:46.49 | _mjones | I didn't say that. I guess I'm thinking outloud about any future projects. Lots of projects are using names now. Of course, openstack's are halfway useful because of their apparent ordering. |
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| 20:54.28 | sine0 | why dont some big company use linux instead of windows server with ADDS ? if i was to start up a small company i would use linux because its free... im only a user but does it not make sense ? |
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| 20:56.42 | Brigo | !offtopic |
| 20:56.42 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 20:58.48 | sine0 | k |
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| 21:00.56 | n0x90 | hi all |
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| 21:07.00 | Ergo | hello i wanted to ask about http://live.debian.net/ - can those images provided by them be trusted? |
| 21:07.16 | Ergo | this seems to be something external to debian project? |
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| 21:10.59 | Kartoos | slaps watmm around a bit with a large fishbot |
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| 21:13.05 | jelly | Ergo: debian.net mostly hosts projects done by debian developers, that are not part of official infrastructure yet |
| 21:13.23 | jelly | !live |
| 21:13.23 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. See also <live firmware>. |
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| 21:13.40 | Ergo | jelly: so it can be trusted? |
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| 21:14.03 | Ergo | im, basicly looking for a non-free inclusive live image |
| 21:14.10 | jelly | !firmware live |
| 21:14.10 | dpkg | Unofficial <live> images - containing non-free Debian <firmware> packages - for using Debian 8 "jessie" as a live OS are available under http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ . See also <firmware images>. |
| 21:14.45 | jelly | Ergo: ^^ |
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| 21:14.50 | iNeedCookies | . |
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| 21:15.04 | iNeedCookies | hi |
| 21:15.25 | iNeedCookies | i have a 1 tb external hard disk and need to delete the last some mb of the disk |
| 21:15.31 | iNeedCookies | how can i do this using dd? |
| 21:15.58 | Ergo | jelly: thank you |
| 21:16.10 | jelly | iNeedCookies: use bs= and seek= and maybe count= options |
| 21:16.41 | jelly | iNeedCookies: why do you want to do that? |
| 21:17.21 | jelly | iNeedCookies: also: what does blockdev --getsize64 /dev/sdX say, how large is your disk? |
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| 21:18.57 | iNeedCookies | yeah but it seems that i need the real size of the disk with blockdev or whatever the command was |
| 21:19.16 | _mjones | Damn. I now need cookies. :( |
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| 21:20.18 | iNeedCookies | me too |
| 21:20.24 | _mjones | iNeedCookies: you should able to get the size from 'dmesg', 'smartctl', others. |
| 21:20.34 | jelly | or the command I just wrote. |
| 21:20.51 | iNeedCookies | jelly: 1 TB |
| 21:20.59 | jelly | iNeedCookies: that's not what blockdev said. |
| 21:21.24 | iNeedCookies | yeah, but you didn't asked and said in what format (BKMGT) |
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| 21:21.40 | jelly | "blockdev --getsize64 /dev/sdX" -- that format |
| 21:22.22 | iNeedCookies | 1000204886016 |
| 21:22.34 | jelly | and how much do you need to wipe? |
| 21:22.45 | iNeedCookies | 10m |
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| 21:23.45 | Peio | there's no filezilla anymore in stretch ? oO |
| 21:24.26 | jelly | iNeedCookies: you can use, say, a bs=1M (that's 1MiB), and divide 1000204886016 by 2**20, subtract 10 from that to get a seek= value, and since there's a rounding error, put in count=11 instead of 10 |
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| 21:25.01 | iNeedCookies | ok, i will try that, thanks |
| 21:26.44 | jelly | iNeedCookies: so run something like "echo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXXX bs=1M seek=$((1000204886016/2**20 - 10)) count=11" and see if the output makes sense. remove "echo" to make it actually do something |
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| 21:27.22 | iNeedCookies | ok thanks |
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| 21:27.54 | jelly | a 1TB disk has about 931 GiB, or about 950000 MiB |
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| 21:41.35 | nurupo | what's up with "package not available" under "libc" in https://packages.debian.org/jessie/mono-devel ? |
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| 21:50.32 | iNeedCookies | jelly: will be blockdev output in bytes? |
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| 21:56.37 | dbarros | do I get debian-update-8.2.0 ISO or debian-8.2.0 ISO for a full install? |
| 21:56.54 | jelly | dbarros: the latter |
| 21:57.22 | dbarros | jelly, the "update" iso mark is an addendo? |
| 21:57.36 | jelly | iNeedCookies: the man page says: --getsize64 Print device size in bytes. |
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| 21:58.01 | jelly | dbarros: yes, for offline upgrades |
| 21:58.10 | dbarros | jelly, thanks! |
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| 22:12.50 | dcz | what do you guys using for creating bootable windows usb ? |
| 22:13.10 | dvs | we dont |
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| 22:15.07 | dcz | i need to install windows :( |
| 22:15.13 | illy | dcz: maybe try #windows |
| 22:16.02 | zinx | dcz: i use dd on the .iso to create USB bootable debian, maybe that helps? |
| 22:16.20 | dcz | yeah i tried that but didnt work |
| 22:16.53 | illy | dcz thats not at all surprising |
| 22:19.13 | epsilon | dcz: i heard people saying "unetbootin" may help |
| 22:19.54 | dcz | i installed that though but it doesnt see the usb, so i thought it maybe about i dont select anything for windows from dist list. |
| 22:20.11 | epsilon | but i personally use usb-dvdrom & windows-dvd |
| 22:20.33 | illy | dcz: try Rufus |
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| 22:20.56 | Shadowcrit | for a bootable windows usb. there is a media creation tool. |
| 22:21.21 | illy | thers That and thers google for everything |
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| 22:21.49 | dcz | i am searching yeah, than you :D |
| 22:21.58 | illy | yeah :D |
| 22:22.02 | Shadowcrit | There is also http://www.easy2boot.com/ which will allow you to just dump isos in a folder and boot them. |
| 22:22.16 | illy | u woot m8 posting links here |
| 22:22.26 | jelly | dcz: ask in ##windows, and if any people from here want to help you they'll join that channel too |
| 22:22.27 | Shadowcrit | works for linux as well. |
| 22:22.32 | illy | dont send links |
| 22:22.38 | illy | :D |
| 22:22.44 | illy | especially not dodgy ones wtf |
| 22:23.13 | jelly | illy, Shadowcrit: let's keep it on topic here, please. If you want to help dcz, you can do that in ##windows |
| 22:23.30 | illy | jelly: dont go offtopic |
| 22:23.38 | Shadowcrit | can you guys maybe take a look at my question in debian offtopic? :D |
| 22:23.57 | nothanks | hello, ftp.fi.debian.org seems to be down.. couple days already... any one know the best alternative? |
| 22:23.58 | illy | mind ur own buisness Shadowcrit we have a priv disscussion here |
| 22:24.02 | nothanks | a finnish server that is |
| 22:24.08 | epsilon | honestly, taking a 20 bucks USB DVDrom was cheaper than dealing with unetbootin & co for hours |
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| 22:24.54 | joker_89 | why samblcient is not found |
| 22:25.01 | jelly | nothanks: httpredir.debian.org ? |
| 22:25.07 | joker_89 | smbclient commadn not found |
| 22:25.08 | Shadowcrit | is it not smbclient? |
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| 22:25.57 | joker_89 | i have installed samba |
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| 22:25.59 | joker_89 | apt-get install samba |
| 22:26.06 | joker_89 | but smbclient command is not found :s |
| 22:26.23 | joker_89 | i have searched on google but .. without any result |
| 22:26.27 | epsilon | joker_89: you want to mount windows share folder? |
| 22:26.29 | jelly | judd: file bin/smbclient |
| 22:26.33 | judd | Search for bin/smbclient in jessie/amd64: smbclient: usr/bin/smbclient |
| 22:26.36 | g00se1 | aptitude install smbclient |
| 22:26.51 | jelly | joker_89: it's in the package named "smbclient" |
| 22:27.03 | joker_89 | ok |
| 22:27.18 | joker_89 | i am mounting a AC DC |
| 22:27.23 | joker_89 | AD DC |
| 22:27.54 | viderizer | joker_89: what mirror are you using? |
| 22:28.08 | illy | /dev/ac /dev/dc |
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| 22:28.18 | joker_89 | what do you mean? |
| 22:28.49 | viderizer | ftp.fi.debian.org is down since a few days ago |
| 22:29.01 | Rudde | So I'm ssh'ing to a server is there any way I can see the IP of the cleint I'm currently connecting from? |
| 22:29.11 | joker_89 | i am from spain |
| 22:29.16 | joker_89 | so i think spanish mirror |
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| 22:29.57 | joker_89 | smbclient where is :S |
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| 22:31.01 | dcz | i used to use winusb on ubuntu but i couldnt install that on debian |
| 22:31.21 | viderizer | joker_89: the spanish mirror appears to be up, so that doesn't concern you |
| 22:31.26 | dcz | that dependicies ugh :( |
| 22:31.40 | joker_89 | what? |
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| 22:32.07 | viderizer | joker_89: can you install other packages normally? |
| 22:32.14 | joker_89 | of course :S |
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| 22:32.23 | joker_89 | but i want to know where is the smbclient |
| 22:32.27 | joker_89 | is not in /usr/local/samba |
| 22:32.37 | jelly | joker_89: dude, install the smbclient package. |
| 22:32.41 | joker_89 | how? |
| 22:32.47 | viderizer | joker_89: sorry, I misread your entire problem |
| 22:32.50 | jelly | joker_89: the usual way. |
| 22:32.59 | joker_89 | apt-get install smbclient ? |
| 22:33.02 | jelly | yes |
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| 22:33.23 | joker_89 | ok, i thought that it was already installed |
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| 22:35.33 | g00se1 | Rudde: Kludge: netstat -plant | grep '22.*ESTABLISHED' |
| 22:36.28 | Rudde | My IP is nowere to be found there |
| 22:36.32 | Rudde | only my servers ip |
| 22:37.33 | Chrys0pras3 | Hey guys. After updating to jessie my graphical interface got ugly, windows look messed up. I'm guessing I missing some packages, but no idea which. |
| 22:38.44 | Chrys0pras3 | I'm using gm3 |
| 22:38.48 | Chrys0pras3 | *gdm3 |
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| 22:40.22 | g00se1 | It's listening on 22 and connecting on another port maybe |
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| 22:46.58 | evilt0ne | hi |
| 22:47.34 | g00se1 | Rudde: Why don't you check the client address in another terminal? |
| 22:50.42 | evilt0ne | hi i am running exim4 on wheezy for quite some time. since two days exim refuses maildelivery leaving me a note with something like this.. "Failed to create directory "/var/spool/exim4" ... spool file error while delivering: permission denied" |
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| 22:50.58 | evilt0ne | i checked the file permisions but they seem to be ok |
| 22:51.18 | evilt0ne | owner is Debian-exim:Debian-exim |
| 22:52.10 | evilt0ne | has anybody experienced similar problems and got a solution for this? |
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| 22:53.25 | evilt0ne | selinux or apparmor is not rtunning |
| 22:54.07 | evilt0ne | the spool directory got created by dpkg-recon.. exim4-config |
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| 22:59.10 | g00se1 | evilt0ne: partition full? |
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| 23:02.13 | evilt0ne | nope g00se1 |
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| 23:03.56 | evilt0ne | i*ve tried to purge and reinstall it after deleting /var/spool/esim4 ... which just leads to the same problem |
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| 23:06.38 | cusco | purge and re install with fix-missing then |
| 23:06.42 | cusco | !fix missing |
| 23:06.42 | dpkg | takes missing to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 23:06.47 | cusco | !fix-missing |
| 23:06.50 | cusco | gah |
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| 23:08.06 | ryouma | is there a program that works like sha1sum, but when in -c mode does not output all of the "no such file or directly" to the terminal? |
| 23:08.38 | Ademan | ryouma: why not filter the output with grep? |
| 23:09.00 | ryouma | Ademan: because it is quite devious in its suckage. it supplies a --quiet argument just to make you think you can fix it, but that does the opposite. and it outputs to terminal so you can't redirect. |
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| 23:09.38 | ryouma | i think you have to grep, then redirect the grep to a file, then cat the file. truly devious. |
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| 23:11.55 | Ademan | ryouma why would you need to redirect to a file then cat the file? that's going stdout -> sha.log -> stdout |
| 23:12.41 | Ademan | *If* I understand what you want correctly, sha1sum $args | grep -v "no such file or directory" will do what you need |
| 23:12.43 | ryouma | Ademan: because the program is devious, as i mentioned. it outputs to terminal, seemingly. which is noise |
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| 23:13.05 | cusco | !missconf |
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| 23:14.02 | cusco | evilt0ne: confmiss ! |
| 23:14.10 | cusco | !tell evilt0ne about confmiss |
| 23:14.11 | ryouma | hehe, nope! |
| 23:14.35 | cusco | or ucf confmiss |
| 23:14.42 | peterrooney | ryouma: checksums -c file 2>&1 | egrep -v 'OK|errormessage' |
| 23:14.55 | g00se1 | ryouma: why not 2>/dev/null ? |
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| 23:15.20 | evilt0ne | thx cusco I'll give it a try |
| 23:15.20 | ryouma | peterrooney: huh, don't have checksums |
| 23:15.45 | peterrooney | ryouma: whatever your checksum program is called, md5, sha, qorp, etc. |
| 23:16.09 | Ademan | g00se1: does sha1sum output errors to stderr? (as it should...) I inferred that it didn't from "[outputs] to the terminal". |
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| 23:16.22 | peterrooney | ryouma: point being, you can either discard the output with a redirect, or redirect it and discard with grep. |
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| 23:17.10 | ryouma | g00se1: it seems that some of its error messages are stderr and some are stdout. so i was wrong about terminal. so yeah a combination of redirect and grepping can do it. it is quite devious, as i said. |
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| 23:35.25 | uio | hello - would it be possile to use debian live as a main distro ? Sort of like puppy linux on a usb ? |
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| 23:37.18 | SuperTramp83 | why not |
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| 23:52.58 | evilt0ne | cusco: still the same problem |
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