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| 00:04.44 | _mjones | Haven't seen a good ÑÑÑÑки rant in a while. |
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| 00:29.21 | sigdk | hi. I've a usb stick. Whenever I plug it in I can only see it under /dev . Checking the size of the device, it says that it's only 16MB, however the stick is 4GB. I assume there is something corrupted in there. Is there any tool to check/fix it ? |
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| 00:30.02 | abrotman | sigdk: what is the device? |
| 00:30.21 | abrotman | sigdk: fdisk -l /dev/whatever |
| 00:30.22 | sigdk | abrotman, /dev/sdb ? |
| 00:30.54 | FootballJones | hey im starting a nfl fantasy football league, we are trying to get enough ppl so we can start this week. i have some people but we just need 6 more, so if u r interested in joining my fantasy league let me know. it will be fun and worth it. a very competitive league, only strong minds who know and breathe NFL football allowed. if u think u got what it takes let me kno. AGAIN only for huge NFL lovers that know the game and live eat breathe NFL pigsk |
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| 00:31.19 | sigdk | abrotman, huh... https://paste.debian.net/311590/ |
| 00:31.54 | abrotman | neat |
| 00:32.01 | abrotman | you sure it's /dev/sdb? |
| 00:33.03 | sigdk | yeah |
| 00:33.12 | _mjones | sigdk: are you aware that's it's not uncommon for counterfeited flash ram or sdcards to actually contain dramatically less flash storage than they report? |
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| 00:35.57 | sigdk | _mjones, no... what does that practically mean ? |
| 00:36.04 | sigdk | physical dmg ? |
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| 00:36.45 | bagbobilgins | physically not there |
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| 00:36.56 | bagbobilgins | tiny card sold as a large card |
| 00:37.19 | bagbobilgins | misreports size |
| 00:37.53 | _mjones | sigdk: as they say, fraudulent card that reports itself as a certain size, but has much less. Usually silently fails when you write more than the actual capacity. |
| 00:37.59 | sigdk | bagbobilgins, no... I had been using the stick for long time... I'm sure it's size is not 16MB |
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| 00:38.36 | _mjones | sigdk: built deliberately to be sold fraudulently. Typically sold as counterfeit versions of a prestigious brand. |
| 00:39.06 | sigdk | Why don't I see it with fdisk -l ? |
| 00:39.41 | _mjones | sigdk: I'm not necessarily proposing that this is what you have. I just wanted you to be aware that it's a thing. |
| 00:41.11 | sigdk | _mjones, yeah... tbh I had never heard of that |
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| 00:43.10 | _mjones | sigdk: unfortunately relatively common in certain situations, like less-formal east-asian markets, or other channels where such fraud is sustainable. |
| 00:43.48 | _mjones | I also have a counterfeit cisco SFP transceiver sitting here, but that exists from very different sources for very different reasons, and isn't as much of a clean-cut case of fraud. |
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| 00:45.50 | sigdk | _mjones, what is it if not fraud ? :) |
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| 00:46.49 | _mjones | counterfeit cisco transceivers exist because cisco started making their equipment not work with any transceivers but their brand, even though interoperability was the entire purpose of the standard and the MSA. |
| 00:47.15 | _mjones | They did this because their margins are the highest, and their customer......often let them get away with it, let's say. |
| 00:47.37 | _mjones | Other customers know all the transceivers come from a handful of places regardless of the branding on them, and want to use much, much cheaper generic transceivers. |
| 00:48.12 | ctmjr | sigdk: what does dmesg say and is this a new drive or did you use it on another os |
| 00:48.36 | _mjones | Although the counterfeit I found in our shop is technically fraud because it has Cisco branding, it's possible to discern it from the real thing because the serial numbers of the frauds are commonly not real cisco serial numbers. |
| 00:49.42 | sigdk | cthuluh, here 's dmsg: https://paste.debian.net/311591/ I've tried open it in windows... it sees an external unformatted device |
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| 00:55.40 | ctmjr | sigdk: it looks like it is corrupt you can try to format it and see if it fixes it, what does fdisk /dev/sdb say |
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| 00:57.08 | sigdk | ctmjr, https://paste.debian.net/311594/ |
| 00:57.50 | sigdk | I don't care for the stick itself. I just wanted to retrieve the files. It's been very long time since I last used it, but I'm sure I have something in there |
| 00:59.02 | ctmjr | well then you do not want to format it to get out of fdisk menu just type q and enter |
| 01:00.27 | sigdk | ctmjr, no I don't want to format it. I want to repair it |
| 01:00.31 | sigdk | Is there any tool ? |
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| 01:18.18 | Adamantium_Rage | Why am I getting those messages when I start my machine and how to fix it? https://paste.debian.net/311597/ |
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| 01:24.18 | Brigo | Adamantium_Rage, it looks like a problem with the intel drivers. You need a newer or older kernel. |
| 01:26.02 | abrotman | or firmware .. |
| 01:26.32 | abrotman | not sure what that would be the intel driver |
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| 01:31.35 | Adamantium_Rage | How to solve it? |
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| 01:45.55 | teamcoltra | Hey guys, I ran find ./ -type f | grep -E ".*\.[a-zA-Z0-9]*$" | sed -e 's/.*\(\.[a-zA-Z0-9]*\)$/\1/' | sort | uniq -c | sort -n to see how many different files I have of variosu types... and ith as been working great but I recently deleted a bunch of files and now it starts with a bunch of "find: `./98151.txt': No such file or directory" type warnings |
| 01:46.05 | teamcoltra | is that just part of find having some kind of cache since the last time I ran the command? |
| 01:46.55 | teamcoltra | I am guessing so since the error went away now |
| 01:47.02 | _mjones | teamcoltra: no cache in find, no. |
| 01:47.23 | teamcoltra | _mjones maybe the files were still being deleted while it was searching |
| 01:47.46 | teamcoltra | :) Either way it went away so I am happy |
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| 01:47.58 | _mjones | teamcoltra: normally you would see something like that if you deleted it between the time you started find and the time it got to the individual file. |
| 01:48.24 | teamcoltra | _mjones yeah I am guessing that's what was happening. There were just so many files that I had assumed it was listing all the files I had deleted |
| 01:48.53 | _mjones | \yes, if the delete job was still running when you started find, then the file was deleted before find got to that part of the tree, it would happen. |
| 01:49.02 | _mjones | Generically this is called a race condition. |
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| 01:55.37 | veXx | im sure the answer is no, but does either wheezy or jessie support non-pae cpu? figured i would give it a shot and ask before i coaster a dvd. most of what i found through google would indicate no |
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| 01:58.16 | themill | veXx: there's a 486 kernel in wheezy and 586 kernel in jessie that don't do PAE (i386 arch, obviously) |
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| 01:59.43 | veXx | im familiar with ubuntu and centos... arch looked like a bit of a large step to jump to for me atm |
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| 02:01.01 | veXx | themill: thanks for the info |
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| 02:03.29 | themill | veXx: err... nothing to do with arch the distribution, I mean the i386 architecture (or port) of debian |
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| 02:13.34 | veXx | themill: lol sorry, my head was in the wrong place (looking through all my options) so i misunderstood but yea thats what i am downloading. thanks |
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| 02:16.32 | themill | :) |
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| 02:19.36 | ryouma | can one change the font size while at a vt prompt? |
| 02:19.59 | brizz | i want to get going on python 3.5 |
| 02:20.31 | smdrz | brizz, any compelling reason to do so? |
| 02:20.33 | brizz | is there a release of debian that has? (just started googling--saw some posts from earlier this year) [fyi for those that did not know 3.5 python was released today] |
| 02:20.43 | brizz | oh yea...ive stayed on 2.7.9 up until now |
| 02:20.54 | brizz | dont even know 3.x really at all...but programming a lot of async stuff |
| 02:21.47 | brizz | want to start messing mainly because of : https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0492/ |
| 02:21.58 | markybob | brizz, latest you'll get from debian is 3.4 |
| 02:22.15 | markybob | ,v python3 |
| 02:22.18 | judd | Package: python3 on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; sid: 3.4.3-4; stretch: 3.4.3-4; experimental: 3.4.3-5 |
| 02:24.11 | brizz | i saw something about ubuntu moving to 3.5 in oct...im guessing debian has something planned b4 then? |
| 02:24.56 | abrotman | ryouma: font size of what? |
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| 03:19.25 | smdrz | !ls |
| 03:19.25 | dpkg | CONFIG.SYS AUTOEXEC.BAT TEMP WINDOWS My Documents PROGRA~1 |
| 03:19.37 | dvs | heh |
| 03:24.18 | WormFood | Is there some additional kernel module that I need to load, to use a hdd over firewire? |
| 03:24.37 | SirLagz | heh...firewire. |
| 03:25.00 | WormFood | hey! Don't blame me. I'm just trying to fix a shitty (ancient) Mac |
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| 03:25.47 | WormFood | at least it supports target mode, where it acts like an external HDD. I figured that'd be easier than trying to boot some Linux, and transfer my stuff over the network. |
| 03:26.31 | WormFood | And target mode does work over firewire, because I used that mode to load OS X on it. So, it should also work under Linux (also, I've done this before, under Linux...like 8 years ago. |
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| 03:30.13 | _mjones | ieee1394 had/has some great features. But it was an encumbered standard, and USB wasn't. (Or wasn't in the same fashion.) |
| 03:30.47 | _mjones | Also, the DMA in 1394 is very useful for compromising machines when you have physical access. |
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| 04:13.04 | WormFood | kernel: [1546451.091784] firewire_core 0000:0b:02.0: rediscovered device fw0 <-- is what I get, when I plug in my firewire device. It appears udev adds a /dev/fw0 device for me, but I can't seem to do anything with it. The sbp2 module is loaded. I don't know what else to do. Anyone have any suggestions? |
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| 04:30.09 | WormFood | has anyone been able to access a firewire hdd in Jessie? I've done it on a much older debian, but not lately. If I'm doing something wrong, then I can't figure out what it is (it doesn't work, out of the box) |
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| 04:33.27 | WormFood | or is firewire too old school for everyone here? |
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| 04:49.30 | nnull | trying to hook up an old fw drive WormFood ? |
| 04:49.45 | WormFood | nope |
| 04:50.06 | WormFood | I got it working. Appears my cable is bad. |
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| 04:50.42 | WormFood | I'm connecting to a mac, in target disk mode, which makes it, more or less, act like an external firewire drive (and usb target mode doesn't work on this ancient computer) |
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| 04:52.18 | swift110-phone | http://www.podcastchart.com/podcasts/security-now-video-lo/episodes/sn-519-the-windows-10-privacy-tradeoff |
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| 04:53.34 | WormFood | swift110-phone, isn't that off topic here? I don't think most people here would be interested in Windows 10 anyways. |
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| 04:58.34 | yskapell | Hi all |
| 04:59.03 | yskapell | I have debian stable and I have install shotwell but I cannot create slideshow background |
| 04:59.25 | yskapell | and other suggestion or any idea why I cannot create the background slideshow? |
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| 05:22.59 | NickStone | good morning |
| 05:23.14 | NickStone | I have a question about debian 7 (wheezy) |
| 05:24.45 | pfraser | Fire away, NickStone. |
| 05:25.12 | NickStone | I just want to know when Debian 7 reaches EOL? |
| 05:25.59 | pfraser | I don't believe one has been set. |
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| 05:26.33 | pfraser | Historically, though, I believe oldstable is supported for around 12 months. |
| 05:27.04 | markybob | NickStone, not set you. you can view EOL for releases here https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases |
| 05:27.09 | markybob | yet* |
| 05:27.12 | NickStone | If debian has been granted long term support until about 2017 or later then I am thinking of re-installing wheezy |
| 05:27.27 | NickStone | thanx markybob |
| 05:28.00 | NickStone | pfraser thats what I thought as well |
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| 05:29.28 | NickStone | anyone here still using wheezy? |
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| 05:38.12 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 05:53.01 | foreverska | Anyone know of an affordable 4xRJ45 nic with full open support (ie not non-free)? |
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| 05:53.47 | markybob | foreverska, basically anything intel, you're good |
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| 05:55.27 | foreverska | Good to hear. |
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| 05:59.04 | foreverska | Although I just found a really interesting looking Jetway board with 4xRJ45 based on a Realtek chipset. |
| 05:59.21 | foreverska | *Jetway Atom based mobo w/ 4xRJ45 |
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| 06:10.45 | darxmurf | I have an "old" Atom motherboard but it eats 50% of CPU when I transfer files over my wifi 802.11AC |
| 06:10.58 | darxmurf | don't know the perf of new ones |
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| 06:12.10 | foreverska | If that's it's only job that doesn't sound too bad for a home router. But that model is only a 2nd gen. |
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| 06:12.39 | darxmurf | yep, don't know what you want to do :-) |
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| 06:13.21 | darxmurf | I have a old one with a daughter 3xLAN board, it's running pfSense and it's perfect |
| 06:14.11 | shay_shay | WiTi on indie gogo |
| 06:14.15 | darxmurf | Atom 230 |
| 06:14.46 | foreverska | Yea, just looking into playing around with homebrew router. I will probably use my spare i5-2 for testing but eventually I'd like a board like these Jetway N Series |
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| 06:14.57 | shay_shay | just use debian and netfilter for home router. don't be a dweeb :) |
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| 06:15.21 | shay_shay | (a pfsense dweeb) |
| 06:15.30 | darxmurf | I quite love pfsense |
| 06:15.46 | darxmurf | installed in 5 min and works well |
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| 06:16.19 | foreverska | Ehhh I wouldn't mind something a bit more difficult. I've got free time. lol |
| 06:17.45 | darxmurf | not me :D |
| 06:18.50 | shay_shay | foreverska: and most scripting languages have netfilter modules. for example for js there is netfilter-node |
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| 06:19.22 | foreverska | 4th Gen Celeron, 4xRJ45 on Intel Chipesets, 2x PCI-E x. This is a really neat little board. |
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| 06:22.23 | shay_shay | but...does it have aes-ni ? |
| 06:23.49 | foreverska | Yes |
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| 06:40.32 | Filystyn | kde-config-touchpad im trying to intall it and it says. Can do it. Repair the broken packets first |
| 06:40.42 | Filystyn | so what broken packets how to find out ;-) |
| 06:41.01 | amicuscuriae | Anyone here using Linux 4 on Debian Stable with backports? |
| 06:41.03 | foreverska | apt -f install? |
| 06:41.12 | darxmurf | apt-get install -f install |
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| 06:41.25 | darxmurf | oops remove the last install :D |
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| 06:43.30 | northstar | amicuscuriae, i tried linux 4 (not the one that was just put in the repos, though) and it slowed down my graphics to an unusable level, so i removed it. |
| 06:43.32 | Filystyn | ok i see |
| 06:43.34 | Filystyn | dpkg hell |
| 06:43.35 | dpkg | hell is probably where it is always schoolies week. |
| 06:44.07 | Filystyn | i get dependecies |
| 06:44.19 | Filystyn | and for them dependencies and for them... |
| 06:44.23 | jelly | Filystyn: which debian release are you using? |
| 06:44.31 | Filystyn | wheezy |
| 06:44.41 | jelly | !bat |
| 06:44.41 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
| 06:44.49 | jelly | Filystyn: ^^ follow that, carefully |
| 06:46.35 | Filystyn | polish so... http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406650/ but you can see what he says is needed (it says those libs must be installed). That is one. |
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| 06:47.37 | jelly | !localized errors |
| 06:47.38 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 06:47.52 | jelly | Filystyn: ^^ we might need that as well, let me see first |
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| 06:49.07 | Filystyn | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406664/ |
| 06:49.08 | jelly | Filystyn: export LC_ALL=C, the pastebin the output of "apt-get -f install", "apt-get install kde-config-touchpad", "apt-cache policykde-config-touchpad python-qt4 python-kde4" and "apt-cache policy" |
| 06:49.51 | jelly | you already got the first command, now the others |
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| 06:50.24 | jelly | mind the missing space in one command above |
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| 06:53.55 | Filystyn | jelly http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406678/ |
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| 06:55.38 | jelly | hm, looks sane |
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| 06:56.48 | jelly | Filystyn: do an "apt-get update", then try to "aptitude install kde-config-touchpad" instead |
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| 06:57.27 | iio7_ | aptitude is not gonna handle that any better. |
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| 06:57.54 | themill | actually, it probably will and if not, it at least gives better error messages |
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| 06:58.09 | iio7_ | I think not, but hey.. |
| 06:58.45 | Filystyn | i think it can work see this.. |
| 06:58.57 | Filystyn | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406690/ |
| 07:00.03 | jelly | Filystyn: good, now at that prompt, tell it to "r 1", press enter, then say "n" next time it asks to "Accept this solution". It will look for a different solution then. |
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| 07:00.10 | iio7_ | Oh, that's what you mean :) Someone with more experience using apt-get knows how to handle it manually. |
| 07:00.31 | iio7_ | aptitude might mess the whole thing up. |
| 07:00.34 | jelly | oh, bpo is getting in way |
| 07:00.45 | Filystyn | r 1??? you mean Yes? |
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| 07:00.54 | jelly | Filystyn: no, I mean "r 1" |
| 07:01.27 | Filystyn | i have only four answers i can pick and there is no r 1 |
| 07:01.34 | themill | needs libqt4-help from wheezy-backports too |
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| 07:01.44 | jelly | Filystyn: yes there is, under ? |
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| 07:02.13 | Filystyn | what? |
| 07:02.23 | jelly | Filystyn: so please type "r 1" at that prompt, notice the change |
| 07:02.28 | Filystyn | ok |
| 07:02.47 | jelly | you're telling aptitude to reject this part of the solution: 1) kde-config-touchpad [Not Installed] |
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| 07:03.09 | Filystyn | done |
| 07:03.21 | jelly | do you see the difference in new and old output? |
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| 07:03.25 | Filystyn | yes |
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| 07:03.32 | Filystyn | touchpad is rejected (1 one) |
| 07:03.36 | Filystyn | R |
| 07:04.05 | jelly | not exactly, the state of package being [Not installed] is rejected |
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| 07:04.09 | Filystyn | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406706/ |
| 07:04.12 | jelly | Filystyn: now say n |
| 07:04.57 | jelly | Filystyn: and aptitude tries to look for a different solution taking into account you don't want to have kde-config-touchpad "Not installed" |
| 07:05.21 | Filystyn | ok ans to n is in link do i accept ? |
| 07:05.32 | jelly | Filystyn: you have lots of stuff installed from wheezy-backports |
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| 07:05.58 | Filystyn | wime installed lot's of libs |
| 07:06.01 | Filystyn | wine* |
| 07:06.12 | Filystyn | not sure it's that but it installed tones of them |
| 07:06.17 | jelly | Filystyn: aptitude now thinks the next simple solution is to downgrade lots of that back to wheezy |
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| 07:07.18 | jelly | Filystyn: if you don't care about "qtchooser" and akonadi, you can probably accept this |
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| 07:07.46 | Filystyn | ok |
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| 07:09.32 | Filystyn | after i install do i do something more? |
| 07:09.48 | Filystyn | since i accualy rejected the touchpad packet.. |
| 07:09.56 | jelly | Filystyn: verify that kde-config-touchpad is now installed |
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| 07:11.41 | jelly | Filystyn: if it's not, do the same command again |
| 07:11.59 | Filystyn | looks like it's installed http://paste.ubuntu.com/12406728/ |
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| 07:13.30 | jelly | Filystyn: I'd restart X or reboot to make sure everything works, current kde processes are using previously installed versions of Qt libraries |
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| 07:13.31 | Filystyn | synaptic also shows it's installed. thank you for help;) |
| 07:13.38 | Filystyn | ok! |
| 07:13.40 | Filystyn | Big thx! |
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| 07:15.15 | jelly | iio7: aptitude doesn't mess things up, the user does! |
| 07:15.29 | jelly | hides |
| 07:16.20 | iio7 | jelly, no I disagree, I have been using Debian from long before aptitude existed, it's just an abstraction upon apt. |
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| 07:16.55 | jelly | I have been using Debian from long before apt existed, that doesn't mean anything |
| 07:17.00 | Filystyn | jelly works perfect it looks like new update broken my touchpad dependencies dunno. But thanks you. |
| 07:17.14 | Filystyn | thank you* |
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| 07:17.54 | jelly | Filystyn: I'm... not sure what that means. If you have dependencies broken and cannot install stuff, repeat the whole bat procedure :-) |
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| 07:18.37 | iio7 | jelly, riiiight |
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| 07:24.21 | jim87 | hello! I need to create an update script for a debian which is not connected to internet. My idea is to automatically mount any USB device that's attached to the server on startup and, if exists, execute a script called in a particular way. My problem is: how can I mount *any* USB device, for instance in rc.local? All the guides talk about getting the UUID of the USB device, but I don't know it as it's not in my control, but the user's... thanks :) |
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| 07:27.04 | msn | jim87: probably udevd |
| 07:27.15 | jim87 | thanks msn, I'll read about it :) |
| 07:29.57 | Filystyn | jelly well wut ever anyway good it works. |
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| 07:53.12 | Norbin | after changing /etc/network/interfaces and assigning a static address to an ethernet card, restarting /etc/init.d/networking is never enough, in order to see the changes (with let's say ip addr show), i have to restart... what's the appropriate way of applying those changes without a reboot? |
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| 07:54.05 | iio7 | Norbin: ifdown ethX; ifup ethX usually does it. |
| 07:54.48 | Norbin | shouldn't ip link set eth0 down/up be the same thing? |
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| 07:58.12 | iio7 | Norbin: The commands does run ip and other utilities to do the work, but when used you don't need a reboot. |
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| 08:06.18 | JyZyXEL | https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/boot/dracut/dracut.html#dracutcmdline7 do these work on debian? |
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| 08:06.29 | LnxBil | Good morning |
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| 08:07.04 | g00se | You need to stop service ntp to run ntpdate-debian, which then adjusts the clock by almost 2 seconds. What's the point in the former?? |
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| 08:07.30 | jelly | JyZyXEL: debian uses iniramfs-tools by default, not dracut |
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| 08:07.37 | jelly | initramfs-tools* |
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| 08:08.07 | LnxBil | I have a strange problem with SSH and the hardware management board of a HP DL380G6. SSH is not working anymore in Jessie, whereas it works fine in Wheezy. I tried two fresh installations of them both. Are there any cipher changes in Jessie? -vv on Wheezy shows some md5 entries, in Jessie they're missing. |
| 08:08.45 | jelly | LnxBil: what's that, iLO2 ? |
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| 08:08.55 | LnxBil | jelly: Yes |
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| 08:10.08 | LnxBil | jelly: There runs mpSSH_0.1.3 |
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| 08:10.57 | jelly | LnxBil: this works for me on iLO (1) and iLO2 : https://paste.debian.net/311607/ |
| 08:11.22 | jelly | LnxBil: (snippet of ~/.ssh/config) |
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| 08:19.55 | LnxBil | jelly: Thank you! Essentially, the HostKeyAlogrithms setting did the trick |
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| 08:21.46 | rhcake | is there some tool that can detect what broke on my system? |
| 08:22.17 | nkuttler | rhcake: how do you know anything "broke"? |
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| 08:22.32 | rhcake | after an update i cant boot and im getting scrambled graphics and a blinking cursor |
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| 08:23.00 | nkuttler | update of what? |
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| 08:24.01 | rhcake | 1gb of updated packages in synaptic |
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| 08:31.26 | evanton | now that midori is gone from jessie, what other lightweight gtk browser can I use instead? my only requirement is noscript support |
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| 08:32.30 | msn | i have setup a local mirror for jessie for using apt-mirror but i am consistently getting Hash sum mistmatch |
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| 08:33.43 | msn | I have tried purging the apt-cache removd files in /var/lib/apt/lists re run apt-update a dozen times but no change |
| 08:34.41 | msn | even removed the said files from the mirror and downloaed them again still |
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| 08:41.52 | LnxBil | jelly: You forced password authentication. Was this the only way to go? Manual login works sometimes (1 out of 5), yet not public key stuff. |
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| 08:44.48 | jelly | LnxBil: with iLO2? Never tried key-based auth actually, no idea if it works |
| 08:45.17 | jelly | LnxBil: sometimes upgrading the firmware fixes the worst bugs, but iLO2 is quite old |
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| 08:46.18 | g00se | Call me ignorant but how does firmware affect whether ssh works? |
| 08:46.36 | jelly | g00se: the implementation of sshd is in that firmware. |
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| 08:47.10 | g00se | Ah. So it's not the regular software-based one we know and love |
| 08:47.18 | LnxBil | jelly: ilo2 version is from january 2015 ... so worst bugs should already be fixed, shouldn't they? |
| 08:47.29 | LnxBil | g00se: unfortunately no |
| 08:48.08 | jelly | g00se: it's software, but not open source and certainly not openssh |
| 08:48.36 | LnxBil | I never saw a firwmare which works stable ... every vendor produces same shit. Often hangs with snmp and terrrrrrrible resonse times with ssh. |
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| 08:49.14 | LnxBil | fujitsu is using some debian packages in their arm firmware. At least the license page in the web interface states that. |
| 08:49.44 | jelly | LnxBil: amusingly the web interface seems to be more polished than ssh |
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| 08:50.25 | LnxBil | jelly: ssh works fine if the initial connection is done. Altough, web inteface is also not that fast. |
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| 08:54.31 | LnxBil | jelly: damn ssh implementation. Got ipmi working which does also what i want ... only super fast. |
| 08:56.18 | jelly | LnxBil: ipmi works on G6? huh |
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| 09:05.52 | darxmurf | filezilla is not available anymore in stretch ? |
| 09:05.59 | jelly | ,v filezilla |
| 09:06.00 | judd | Package: filezilla on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.3.3-1; wheezy: 3.5.3-2; wheezy-backports: 3.9.0.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.9.0.5-1; sid: 3.12.0.2-1 |
| 09:06.17 | jelly | dpkg, tell darxmurf about why filezilla is not in testing |
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| 09:07.09 | CtrlC | Can I remove /var/log/syslog ? |
| 09:07.17 | CtrlC | Any problem might happen? |
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| 09:08.11 | darxmurf | thanks |
| 09:08.33 | RoyK | CtrlC: why on earth would you want to do that? |
| 09:08.54 | CtrlC | RoyK:It's 7 GIG! |
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| 09:09.54 | g00se | WHY is it 7GB |
| 09:10.05 | jelly | CtrlC: first figure out what the majority of lines are about |
| 09:10.10 | CtrlC | good question! |
| 09:10.31 | CtrlC | first: removing it can cause any problem? |
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| 09:10.48 | jelly | CtrlC: apart from losing logs, not really |
| 09:11.11 | CtrlC | Thanks. |
| 09:11.28 | jelly | CtrlC: you have to reload rsyslog if you want to free the disk space |
| 09:11.42 | CtrlC | How? |
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| 09:11.56 | jelly | CtrlC: something like "service rsyslog reload" |
| 09:12.02 | CtrlC | So it'll delete the file automatically? |
| 09:12.15 | CtrlC | Or clear it. |
| 09:12.22 | RoyK | jelly: systemctl restart syslog |
| 09:13.02 | jelly | RoyK: that only works with systemd |
| 09:13.08 | CtrlC | So it'll delete the file automatically? |
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| 09:13.10 | g00se | Why don't you archive it?? |
| 09:13.24 | RoyK | CtrlC: in unix/linux, if you delete a file, its done with the unlink() systemcall, which removes the filename from the file. Only when the file is closed by all processes and only after a file has no filenames, the data is deleted |
| 09:13.49 | RoyK | CtrlC: but better find out what is filling your logs before removing it |
| 09:13.50 | CtrlC | it frees space though right? |
| 09:14.18 | jelly | CtrlC: no, you have to delete the file manually, but the disk space doesn't get cleared until the syslog service closes the file (and reopens it) |
| 09:14.23 | RoyK | CtrlC: it frees the space when the file is removed, which is after syslog has closed it. it won't be told about the file being removed |
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| 09:14.44 | RoyK | CtrlC: but find out what's filling it up before removing it |
| 09:14.57 | CtrlC | So I guess rm and reboot will work too. right? |
| 09:15.00 | jelly | CtrlC: and sorry, it's "service rsyslog rotate" in debian 7 and 8 |
| 09:15.16 | CtrlC | debian 8 has systemd |
| 09:15.25 | jelly | CtrlC: by default, yes |
| 09:15.44 | CtrlC | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:15.48 | CtrlC | right? |
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| 09:16.17 | RoyK | CtrlC: no reason to reboot - just restart rsyslog |
| 09:16.23 | RoyK | or rotate... |
| 09:16.40 | RoyK | rebooting is way overkill |
| 09:16.52 | CtrlC | so first rm and then restarting rsyslog |
| 09:17.08 | RoyK | CtrlC: no. first, find out what's filling up your logs. then the other two |
| 09:17.30 | CtrlC | Ok, thanks. |
| 09:18.39 | chozha | ... |
| 09:18.43 | chozha | boring |
| 09:18.54 | jelly | CtrlC: the idea is to find the cause and stop it from happening again, instead of just doing a temporary solution |
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| 09:19.32 | CtrlC | Ok, I'll try to do it later. |
| 09:19.44 | N_ick | Hi there, i need help to generate a new locale. IBM850 is the charset i need to use (found in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps) i managed to generate some files using this command : localedef -f IBM850 -i fr_FR /usr/share/locale/fr_FR.ibm850. and i'm stuck here... what do i need to do next to make the locale available to use? |
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| 09:20.09 | er4z0r | chozha: there is enough new stuff to learn. no excuses for being bored |
| 09:20.19 | RoyK | CtrlC: it's a little hard to read through the logs to look for something bad after the logs are removed |
| 09:20.50 | CtrlC | RoyK: There are things like having a copy you know. |
| 09:20.51 | chozha | er4z0r: struck up with virtual networking |
| 09:20.56 | RoyK | N_ick: I thought most people moved over to UTF-8 some 20 years back |
| 09:21.16 | chozha | er4z0r: can you help me in setting up vagrant box , |
| 09:21.45 | chozha | have to set up puppet virtual lab environment :( |
| 09:21.59 | er4z0r | chozha: sorry, that is still on my list of stuff to learn :-/ |
| 09:22.09 | chozha | er4z0r: :o |
| 09:22.21 | CtrlC | Doesn't debian have a llvm port? Any plan on it? Any one has any info? |
| 09:22.37 | chozha | er4z0r: can you list me those lists ? |
| 09:23.10 | er4z0r | chozha: I'd be kicked for flooding ;-) |
| 09:23.15 | chozha | pm |
| 09:23.22 | chozha | ;) |
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| 09:37.15 | N_ick | okay i'm back, dunno what happened... |
| 09:37.15 | LnxBil | jelly: Yes, ipmi works perfectly (local). I really like it |
| 09:38.47 | N_ick | Hi there, i need help to generate a new locale. IBM850 is the charset i need to use (found in /usr/share/i18n/charmaps) i managed to generate some files using this command : localedef -f IBM850 -i fr_FR /usr/share/locale/fr_FR.ibm850. and i'm stuck here... what do i need to do next to make the locale available to use? |
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| 09:52.59 | jelly | N_ick: probably add it to /etc/locale.gen and run locale-gen |
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| 10:07.50 | RoyK | Jazz86: yes, like everything else |
| 10:08.08 | Jazz86 | ok thank you so much! |
| 10:08.10 | RoyK | runs his home server on and ssd with debian8 |
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| 10:43.51 | korhojoa | runs a CS:GO server with debian on a ssd. works great. hasn't exploded yet |
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| 11:07.42 | bstarek | hello all |
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| 11:07.55 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 11:08.10 | Agiofws | how can i see which kernels i have installed on my system? |
| 11:08.41 | Agiofws | and how can change default grub option? to select appropriate kernel? |
| 11:08.44 | Agiofws | grub2 |
| 11:08.44 | bstarek | uname -a |
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| 11:10.40 | bstarek | I remember there is grub config file where you could comment the uneeded kernel |
| 11:10.49 | bstarek | have you tried to google it? |
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| 11:14.48 | Agiofws | and how can I change the default grub option? to select appropriate kernel? |
| 11:15.33 | Brigo | bstarek, dpkg -l linux-image* |
| 11:15.42 | Brigo | or just ls -l /boot |
| 11:16.03 | Brigo | you can configure general grub configuration options in /etc/default/grub |
| 11:16.13 | Agiofws | thank you |
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| 11:17.14 | Brigo | Agiofws, np :) |
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| 11:23.22 | er4z0r | how can I get the kernel config for the normal debian kernel image |
| 11:23.44 | er4z0r | I would like to build my own kernel but configure it (mostly) the same as the standard one |
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| 11:24.58 | {Phoinix} | er4z0r, maybe you can find it under /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 11:27.16 | katyucha | Hi |
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| 11:27.53 | katyucha | another "Hash Sum mismatch" in my local repository. What can i do ? I don't want to download all files ... |
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| 11:28.15 | MazB | d |
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| 11:29.03 | katyucha | local mirror, I mean |
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| 11:31.32 | therealfibonacci | its possible to have ssh attacks when starting my tor browser? having multiple failed accesses to my pc viewed by tail -f |
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| 11:32.24 | petemc | therealfibonacci: its pretty normal to have attempted ssh logins whether running tor or not |
| 11:33.09 | therealfibonacci | probably some sort of bots? the real problem is that im behind nat and cant see the real external ip of the attacks |
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| 11:33.51 | Agiofws | hello again |
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| 11:34.44 | darxmurf | hi |
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| 11:36.52 | Agiofws | what is the procedure if i want to remove some kernels in debian? |
| 11:37.04 | Agiofws | here is a list i have on my machine |
| 11:37.06 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/0Syym1jo |
| 11:37.39 | Agiofws | do i go through synaptic? |
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| 11:44.18 | bstarek | Agiofws: through synaptic why? |
| 11:44.27 | bstarek | i dont get your question |
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| 11:49.16 | Agiofws | rmove a kernel on my system |
| 11:49.51 | Agiofws | i removed it through synaptic and and updated grub |
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| 11:56.54 | BadCodSmell | Is there an official supported means of getting new versions of GCC on debian (wheezy)? |
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| 11:58.34 | jelly | BadCodSmell: nope, you have what you have |
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| 12:00.33 | Brigo | ,v gcc |
| 12:00.34 | judd | Package: gcc on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-1; wheezy: 4:4.7.2-1; jessie: 4:4.9.2-2; sid: 4:5.2.1-4; stretch: 4:5.2.1-4 |
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| 12:02.08 | BadCodSmell | So basically just recompile a newer one |
| 12:02.24 | BadCodSmell | And for building debs is there an easy way to specify an alternative gcc path? |
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| 12:08.16 | Brigo | BadCodSmell, apt-get source builds the .deb packages using dpkg-buildpackage, i think you can configure gcc version there. |
| 12:08.39 | themill | dpkg-buildpackage doesn't sanitise PATH |
| 12:08.54 | BadCodSmell | I guess just old fashioned CXX= |
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| 12:09.08 | amitprakash | Hi, I am seeing a lot of Sep 13 03:35:01 ip-10-0-7-164 CRON[17294]: (root) CMD (command -v debian-sa1 > /dev/null && debian-sa1 1 1) |
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| 12:09.13 | amitprakash | What exactly is this? |
| 12:09.23 | BadCodSmell | man debian-sa1 |
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| 12:09.44 | BadCodSmell | http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1686012.html |
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| 12:10.50 | BadCodSmell | something to do with stats apparently |
| 12:11.21 | stevenm | does *everyone* get this "Encoding to use on the console" question now when they install Debian 8 ? this is new - or does it only ask sometimes? |
| 12:11.24 | BadCodSmell | run it see what it does |
| 12:11.26 | amitprakash | BadCodSmell, yeah.. disabled it :D |
| 12:12.06 | amitprakash | BadCodSmell, its a wrapper around sa1 for debian.. sa1 - Collect and store binary data in the system activity daily data file. |
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| 12:26.50 | ghormoon | hi, any idea on some more lowlevel file count in directory than ls -la folder/ | wc -l? |
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| 12:28.49 | petn-randall | ghormoon: What are you missing? |
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| 12:29.43 | ghormoon | petn-randall: it just finished counting, it was more than 5 minutes ... :D |
| 12:31.23 | petn-randall | ghormoon: You're doing something wrong if it takes more than a split second to list directory contents. |
| 12:31.37 | ghormoon | petn-randall: yup. there was 72500 files :) |
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| 12:36.48 | ghormoon | I think I need to parse those in a databaze and get rid of them :D |
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| 12:38.43 | petn-randall | ghormoon: You need a nested directory structure. We had 1/2 million files in a flat directory, we moved it to directories that had the first to hex chars of the sha256 sum of the files. |
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| 12:38.59 | petn-randall | ghormoon: Nesting helps a lot here regarding lookup speed. |
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| 12:41.29 | ghormoon | petn-randall: that's just a bunch of rotated logs. I don't need nesting - I need to archive them alsewhere and get rid of them from the machine :) |
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| 12:43.05 | petn-randall | ghormoon: You got 72k logfiles?! |
| 12:43.53 | ghormoon | petn-randall: irc bouncer logs :) |
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| 12:45.28 | ghormoon | I should parse them into a database so I can select from them easily and don't need them as files |
| 12:45.44 | ghormoon | it's not that much in volume, ~5.5gb |
| 12:45.57 | jelly | ghormoon: ls -1f blah/* |wc -l |
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| 12:46.13 | jelly | and even that ls is unneeded really |
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| 12:46.54 | ghormoon | actually I can use only folder/ not folder/*. with * I get argument list too long :) |
| 12:47.41 | jelly | yeah, sorry about that |
| 12:47.42 | ghormoon | though it only took long for the first time, now it's somehow reasonable time to lost thgough it if I search for something |
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| 12:48.04 | ghormoon | though I should get some free evening to make a database for that |
| 12:48.05 | jelly | all the dentries are cached now |
| 12:48.41 | jelly | ls -l needs to stat() each file, ls -1f doesn't |
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| 12:49.19 | msn | how can i convert openssl cert into gnutls format |
| 12:49.26 | ghormoon | yuo, stating 72.5k files is not that fast :) |
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| 12:54.18 | ghormoon | even when cached, ls -la ./ | wc -l takes 2.5s, ls -lf ./ | wc -l takes 0.1s :) |
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| 12:55.55 | msn | how do i convert openssl crt to gnutls |
| 12:56.21 | jelly | ghormoon: -1f 1 is a digit 'one', not lowercase L |
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| 12:57.28 | ghormoon | jelly: actually the -l got ignored so the result is the same |
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| 12:57.38 | jelly | msn: no idea, but honestly that sounds like something google would be able to find |
| 12:58.09 | jelly | ghormoon: lucky! |
| 12:58.11 | ghormoon | ls -la == 2.5s, ls == 1.5s, ls -f == 0.1s. so 1sec for stating from cache, 1.5s for sorting :) |
| 12:58.39 | jelly | ghormoon: now echo 3 >> /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches and do it again (don't do it) |
| 12:58.54 | ghormoon | jelly: won't allow me since I'm in a container |
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| 13:01.00 | Limbe | Hello |
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| 13:02.11 | Limbe | I like to reinstall debian from scratch but am a bit unsure on how to proceed |
| 13:02.57 | ghormoon | Limbe: you mean that you want to debootstrap it or you want user friendly installer? |
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| 13:03.42 | Limbe | I'm willing to learn the best way |
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| 13:04.01 | Limbe | i've used the friendly installer in the past |
| 13:04.46 | ghormoon | 95% of the time the installer allows you what you need to do in the gui. though there are some cases where you need to go down to the shell and do it yourself. like installing on zfs root :) |
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| 13:06.14 | Limbe | oh making sure i get ffmpeg instead of libav is important to me, i think the friendly installer switched so i dont need to add custom packages do i ? |
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| 13:07.45 | Limbe | i dont use that filesystem at this time, is there another example you might need to manualy do it? |
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| 13:09.35 | ghormoon | Limbe: I'm pretty sure libav is not part of base system. not sure if some of the desktop enviromnents won't bring it in |
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| 13:10.50 | jelly | Limbe: you won't get ffmpeg in the current release with any installation method, it's not present in debian 8 at all |
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| 13:11.18 | Limbe | i'm going for the new stretch not stable |
| 13:11.36 | Limbe | stretch is in "testing"i believe |
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| 13:11.46 | sirka | hello all, please help, after recent update of debian testing I'm getting extensive amount of "ABORT: X_CreatePixmap: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation); 24 requests ago: file /build/iceweasel-aqqXYF/iceweasel-38.2.1esr/toolkit/xre/nsX11ErrorHandler.cpp, line 157" (or just BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)) which lead to system instability. Would anybody have some clue please? |
| 13:11.55 | Limbe | or am i mistaken |
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| 13:12.06 | jelly | Limbe: then do just a base system installation of debian 8, and upgrade to testing right away |
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| 13:12.29 | ghormoon | Limbe: ffmpeg is available either in wheezy or stretch, so in that case, that would do. |
| 13:12.31 | jelly | #debian-next channel over on irc.oftc.net (irc.debian.org) is the right channel for testing |
| 13:12.31 | maasha | Trippy problem: I have an execuable file: -rwxr-xr-x 1 maasha kkgroup 5561539 Sep 14 15:04 blastall but if I try to execute it: -bash: ./blastall: No such file or directory ? |
| 13:12.52 | jelly | maasha: what does "file ./blastall" say |
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| 13:13.13 | maasha | jelly: ./blastall: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, not stripped |
| 13:13.19 | themill | ghormoon: ffmpeg isn't in wheezy either btw |
| 13:13.30 | petn-randall | jelly: It's a shell script outputting "-bash: ./blastall: No such file or directory" ;) |
| 13:13.31 | jelly | maasha: you probably have a 64bit installation. |
| 13:13.31 | Limbe | ok jelly thank you ghormoon |
| 13:13.33 | themill | (not in the sense meant by the question) |
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| 13:13.38 | jelly | dpkg, tell maasha about multiarch |
| 13:13.53 | ghormoon | themill: true I didn't check the repo, I've seen this https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ffmpeg |
| 13:13.53 | maasha | jelly: I have, but normally, the 32 bit should work here too |
| 13:14.28 | themill | ghormoon: that's not ffmpeg as far as anyone obsessing about their particular provider of libav* is concerned |
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| 13:14.47 | jelly | maasha: it "should" work after you enable multiarch and install libc6:i386 and maybe some other bits, not before |
| 13:15.02 | ghormoon | themill: hm, just looking on it and that's true. then stretch or sid only :( |
| 13:15.09 | jelly | or backport |
| 13:15.32 | maasha | jelly: ah, me bad. It turns out there is a 64bit version (stupid docs I am following) |
| 13:15.44 | maasha | jelly: well, you id'ed the problem for me. Ty. |
| 13:16.08 | Limbe | yes i was going for stretch. |
| 13:16.34 | Limbe | sid would be too risky for my skills with linux OS |
| 13:16.52 | jelly | testing is pretty broken right now too |
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| 13:17.27 | Limbe | jelly, like in what way? |
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| 13:18.25 | jelly | Limbe: in "you might not be able to install lots of stuff" or "packages that you like may conflict with each other" due to large ABI transitions |
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| 13:28.05 | sirka | jelly>yes, it seems to be (at least on my machine) |
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| 13:29.19 | Limbe | jelly, well i have a lot of issues with libav in my current debian Jessie, there are also other issues i can't seem to get fixed. |
| 13:29.37 | jelly | ,checkbackport ffmpeg |
| 13:29.43 | Limbe | i was hoping an upgrade would help |
| 13:29.44 | judd | Backporting package ffmpeg in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual, jessie-backports. |
| 13:30.08 | jelly | Limbe: it may help with ffmpeg, but break the rest of the system |
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| 13:30.24 | Limbe | do i have compile vlc to build against ffmpeg if i did that? |
| 13:30.38 | Limbe | jelly, yes i see your point |
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| 13:31.14 | g00se | what about deb-mutimedia? |
| 13:31.21 | jelly | Limbe: seeing as vlc links against libavcodec, yes, probably |
| 13:31.25 | petn-randall | !debÃmultimedia |
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| 13:31.31 | petn-randall | !deb-multimedia |
| 13:31.31 | dpkg | We recommend against deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are too poor in quality or for legal reasons. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm wheezy>, <dmm jessie>. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove> |
| 13:31.32 | petn-randall | gah |
| 13:31.38 | Limbe | ive never compiled from src before, is there a gud general guide on how to do this? |
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| 13:35.08 | g00se | Point taken. What - even worse than pulseaudio? ;) |
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| 13:45.41 | Limbe | There is none? |
| 13:45.58 | Limbe | guess i'll have to muddle along |
| 13:46.13 | jelly | Limbe: well. There's /msg dpkg package rebuild |
| 13:46.36 | jelly | which is kind of terse |
| 13:47.53 | Limbe | jelly, thanks |
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| 13:50.44 | Limbe | i found some tut yay. http://www.aboutdebian.com/compile.htm |
| 13:50.49 | markybob | Limbe, just about every source will have a README with instructions on how to compile, btw |
| 13:51.11 | Limbe | it was at such a easy to find place i must be blind >.< |
| 13:51.27 | Limbe | markybob: ok ty |
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| 13:54.15 | RDash | I am getting ´Permission denied´ on a NFS Mount, the mount line in FSTAB is: 192.168.1.101:/volume1/Storage/Anime /media/anime nfs nouser,atime,auto,rw,dev,exec,suid 0 0 |
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| 13:54.44 | RDash | pokez jelly |
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| 13:55.58 | phr | guys, runnin a bit off-topic here.. but i have a question and i need a quick answer. can i use an IP camera without being connected to internet/router? thanks in advance |
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| 13:59.15 | tomboy64 | hello folks. i have a service in gentoo, called "local" where you can stuff commands into a file and they will get executed on start/stop. is there something comparable in debian? |
| 13:59.27 | tomboy64 | (too lazy to write up my own init-file) |
| 13:59.58 | petn-randall | tomboy64: /etc/rc.local |
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| 14:00.18 | tomboy64 | petn-randall: thank you very much |
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| 14:12.14 | MsK` | hi |
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| 14:14.10 | MsK` | I'm having a very weird issue, I don't know if it's related to a program I installed or not, but I'm having many short connections from 192.186.215.37 which seems to be godaddy.com and I have no idea why |
| 14:14.47 | MsK` | when I use nethogs to show which process is doing the connection, it displays the local ip of my server + port 80 or 443 and the IP of goddady instead of the process |
| 14:15.00 | MsK` | netstat doesn't show any process when looking for connections of that IP |
| 14:15.14 | MsK` | iptables -j DROP -A INPUT,OUTPUT on that IP does nothing |
| 14:15.37 | MsK` | it feels almost as if my kernel was compromised x) |
| 14:16.04 | MsK` | (4.1.0-0.bp0.1-amd64 from backports btw) |
| 14:16.17 | MsK` | any suggestion ? |
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| 14:16.50 | MsK` | http://tof.canardpc.com/view/dfce3d93-c551-4c4f-b74f-96868791a5fb.jpg |
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| 14:19.30 | petn-randall | MsK`: Looks like you're allowing port forwarding to your machine. |
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| 14:20.08 | MsK` | net.ipv4.ip_forward in sysctl.conf is still commented out |
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| 14:20.43 | chozha | :( |
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| 14:20.56 | chozha | _/\_ aruna |
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| 14:22.15 | MsK` | petn-randall, /proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth1 shows 0 too |
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| 14:22.43 | chozha | aruna: pls check pm :( |
| 14:23.03 | MsK` | as well as /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 14:23.37 | chozha | MsK`: your favourite linux download manager ?? |
| 14:24.02 | MsK` | chozha, what do you mean by download manager ? |
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| 14:24.55 | MsK` | I tried stopping apache but connections continue arriving |
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| 14:25.45 | chozha | MsK`: application used to speed up the download process ? |
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| 14:26.25 | MsK` | chozha, I have no such thing |
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| 14:26.35 | chozha | MsK`: ? nice |
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| 14:27.56 | MsK` | maybe it's related to the dmarc and dkim setup I did recently ? but I don't get why it would go through ports 80 and 443 |
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| 14:28.43 | chozha | MsK`: whom do you talking to ? |
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| 14:34.45 | jelly | chozha: this is a tech support channel. People talk about support issues the whole time, and everyone gets to read |
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| 14:35.40 | chozha | oh ok jelly |
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| 14:39.13 | chozha | OpenStack ? what it deals with |
| 14:39.45 | jelly | MsK`: does does "netstat -tupan" show, is your web server associated with those connections or some other process? |
| 14:40.48 | MsK` | netstat -tupan doesn't show any connection for 192.186.215.37 |
| 14:40.54 | chozha | any one good with virtual networking ? |
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| 14:41.18 | kim_bruning | chozha, http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
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| 14:41.39 | chozha | netstat tupan o |
| 14:41.43 | chozha | :o |
| 14:41.55 | petn-randall | MsK`: Maybe nethogs shows aggregated data, and not real-time data? |
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| 14:42.28 | MsK` | petn-randall, something like that, I just found that the ? at the beginning of the line means that the connection is not running anymore |
| 14:42.30 | jelly | MsK`: what about your web server's access logs? |
| 14:42.46 | MsK` | what bothers me is that I'm seeing many of such connections and it's using several Kb/s |
| 14:42.53 | MsK` | jelly, nothing there too :/ |
| 14:42.57 | chozha | netstat tupan << purpose |
| 14:42.57 | kim_bruning | chozha, in max 1-2 lines, say your problem, say what you've tried, say what kind of help you think you need. |
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| 14:43.08 | jelly | if it's not in netstat, it's not happening at the moment |
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| 14:43.27 | jelly | chozha: read the manual for netstat. |
| 14:43.49 | kim_bruning | chozha, if you know answer to someone elses problem answer succinctly. Please don't spam channel with random questions or requests |
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| 14:44.44 | MsK` | as can be seen here : http://lywenn.eu.org/munin/localdomain/localhost.localdomain/if_eth1.html there's quite some traffic ongoing but nothing I know about :/ |
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| 14:45.03 | chozha | kim_bruning: are you bot ?? |
| 14:45.10 | chozha | :| sorry |
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| 14:47.42 | jelly | MsK`: 10-20kbps is not a lot of traffic at all. Your ssh connection scrolling the output of netstat generates that amount |
| 14:48.36 | MsK` | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.45 | MsK` | this is my local server, there isn't much traffic on it |
| 14:48.58 | jelly | chozha: kim has a point. This channel is more about specific issues rather than general "what does this do". We assume you're able to do basic investigation yourself. |
| 14:49.02 | MsK` | well, not local, but small user, I don't know what to call it ^ |
| 14:49.35 | rozie | MsK`: run tcpdump and see what it is |
| 14:49.36 | MsK` | and port 80 and 443 should show up in apache's log so I'm quite worried |
| 14:49.42 | MsK` | oh yes tcpdump, forgot about that one |
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| 14:51.03 | MsK` | hmm, doesn't give much more insight than nethogs |
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| 14:51.16 | jelly | MsK`: don't be surprised if it's your ssh connection that generates most traffic |
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| 14:51.44 | MsK` | jelly, it's not the ssh connection, I started it less than an hour ago and I can find it in the dumps |
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| 14:52.04 | MsK` | plus, 192.186.215.37 is in arizona while I'm in portugal right now x) |
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| 14:52.11 | MsK` | and the server is in france |
| 14:52.16 | MsK` | (mine) |
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| 14:55.53 | netsrot | hi |
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| 14:56.17 | chozha | hi netsrot |
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| 15:02.01 | Savemech | guys, there is a some option to track sizes of files in my directories, in some fancy way? i'm tired of du -ah |sort > 1st; then diff with new |
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| 15:08.10 | antena-cli | My computer is looping DNS requests to the last host I try to connect and I don't know how to stop it. Help! - http://s2.postimg.org/ilhon60l5/dns.png |
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| 15:10.20 | antena-cli | I'll see if reboot do the trick. |
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| 15:19.11 | bstarek | icexz, yes |
| 15:19.15 | bstarek | sorry |
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| 15:24.28 | antena-cli | Problem found. Was Conky. |
| 15:25.17 | kmh | hi guys, i have a thinkpad x220 with a docking station |
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| 15:25.37 | kmh | when my thinkpad is docked ... i am not able to play any sound |
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| 15:25.54 | kmh | ianyone has a hint what i can do? |
| 15:26.07 | kmh | I found some bug reports for ubuntu |
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| 15:26.30 | kmh | but the solutions there did not solve my problem |
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| 15:26.43 | jhutchins | kmh: The docking station often presents as a different audio device, or a different output channel. |
| 15:26.54 | jhutchins | kmh: Open your mixer and experiment with un-muting things. |
| 15:27.01 | kmh | that does not work |
| 15:27.02 | markybob | kmh, install pavucontrol and see what the output is/what's muted |
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| 15:27.12 | kmh | when the thinkpad is docked there are all other channels gone |
| 15:27.25 | kmh | and only hdmi devices are present at the pavucontrol |
| 15:28.02 | kmh | i tried to use the kernel in the backports, but this did not work also |
| 15:28.17 | petn-randall | kmh: It might only be switching the default. If you go to output devices, is the analog audio still there? |
| 15:28.28 | kmh | with ubuntu i do not have this issue |
| 15:29.00 | kmh | petn-randall, when docked all devices are gone |
| 15:29.09 | kmh | when i undock the device are there back again |
| 15:29.25 | kmh | so i have no option to choose another device for default |
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| 15:34.37 | MsK`` | well... I rebooted it.. I didn't reboot... I'm 1050km far from it, problem solved \o/ |
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| 16:06.11 | finetundra2234 | hey folks, is it possible to get WM's like blackbox or fluxbox to have an entry in update-alternatives --config x-session-manager ? |
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| 16:35.53 | BadCodSmell | I'm using dpkg-buildpackage to create a .deb, I see that they is a control.m4, how do I list the options and choose them? |
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| 16:36.05 | jelly | options? |
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| 16:36.36 | BadCodSmell | Yeh like no-bloat1 nobloat-2 ... nobloat-20 |
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| 16:36.43 | BadCodSmell | It's for the gcc package |
| 16:37.01 | BadCodSmell | I want only i386 amd64 and arm* for example |
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| 16:38.07 | jelly | I don't feel qualified enough to comment on (re)building gcc packages, sorry |
| 16:38.15 | jamesbond-4711 | hi, I made a test installation of Debian 8.2 to take a look at the changes compared to Debian 7. It is my understanding that Debian 8 now uses systemd. - So why is the directory /etc/rc5.d still present in Debian 8? Are the contents being ignored? |
| 16:38.22 | BadCodSmell | I know that dpkg is doing crazy magical stuff like generating the control from the m4 if the control is older than the m4 or something and also then back patching all the way in the parent dir the diffs for the source package etc |
| 16:38.31 | BadCodSmell | jamesbond-4711 it supports both sysvint and systemd |
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| 16:39.08 | jamesbond-4711 | BadCodSmell: can one use both at the same time? Or is there some kind of "master switch"? |
| 16:39.09 | jelly | jamesbond-4711: it's not used, unless you decide to switch back to sysvinit |
| 16:39.10 | BadCodSmell | To ease migration, but I don't know the exact specifics, probably systemd might have a wrapper for rc too and maybe it needs a tiny bit of sysvinit just to boot systemd *shrugs* |
| 16:39.18 | BadCodSmell | master switch I believe |
| 16:39.30 | jelly | !jessie sysvinit |
| 16:39.30 | dpkg | To use an init system other than systemd in jessie, install the systemd-shim package (for logind) and remove the systemd-sysv package: aptitude install systemd-shim sysvinit-core systemd-sysv-. To stick with sysvinit for wheezy->jessie upgrades, follow the pinning advice in the release notes: http://deb.li/30Kby - See also <upstart> and <openrc> |
| 16:39.41 | jelly | ^^ "master switch" |
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| 16:40.54 | jamesbond-4711 | jelly: thx - so by default, it uses systemd. So I guess when I have some custom firewall script that I want to port from Debian 7 to Jessie, I should use systemd service files for that purpose, shouldn't I? |
| 16:41.58 | BadCodSmell | could try iptables -persistent |
| 16:42.23 | jamesbond-4711 | BadCodSmell: I prefer to have my own script (with my own comments in it) |
| 16:42.44 | BadCodSmell | You can comment the output of iptables-save |
| 16:42.52 | BadCodSmell | But if you have anything dynamic... |
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| 16:43.03 | jelly | jamesbond-4711: if it has proper LSB headers and accepts "start" "stop" and "restart" params, it will probably Just Work⢠|
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| 16:43.53 | jelly | systemd kind of has backward compatibility, but it's really picky |
| 16:44.30 | jamesbond-4711 | jelly: it has. I used to put it in the directory /etc/init.d - shall I put it somewhere else like /root/bin now? |
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| 16:55.18 | jhutchins | jamesbond-4711: /usr/local/bin is probably just as good. |
| 16:55.31 | jhutchins | jamesbond-4711: Althought the init directory is still there. |
| 16:55.43 | jamesbond-4711 | ok, thx jhutchins |
| 16:56.19 | jhutchins | jamesbond-4711: I believe rc.local is still valid. I think I'd see if it still works the way you used to do it, and then read up on how systemd is currently planning to allow user scripts. |
| 16:56.43 | jhutchins | jamesbond-4711: I tend to put my scripts in /usr/local/bin and then call them from cron or rc.local. |
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| 17:00.00 | BadCodSmell | I found my thing don't worry, the control.m4 is gcc specific. |
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| 17:11.19 | ch33sus | hey, after installing syslinux on jessie, i cant find the file pxelinux.0 for pxe boot, what package do i need to install? |
| 17:11.28 | jelly | jamesbond-4711: just leave it in /etc/init.d/ as it's supposed to be |
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| 17:12.13 | jelly | jamesbond-4711: else the automatic compatibility service unit generator thingy won't find it |
| 17:12.41 | jamesbond-4711 | jelly: okay, that is the easiest for me, because it has always been there. :-) |
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| 17:12.54 | jelly | that's what backward compatibility means, eh? |
| 17:13.40 | jamesbond-4711 | jelly: I did not know that there is backwards compatibility, so I would not have tried this approach. |
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| 17:14.20 | jelly | ah. It's probably documented in jessie's release notes. |
| 17:14.26 | jelly | !jessie release notes |
| 17:14.26 | dpkg | Release notes for Debian 8 "Jessie" are at http://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/releasenotes . See also <wheezy->jessie>, <install guide>. |
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| 17:32.01 | nciardo | Hi there |
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| 17:33.57 | fennesz | Hello ! Following this guide I can ssh to the remote machine (lubuntu) but don't get the remote desktop on my system (Debian 8)https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/RemoteDesktop |
| 17:34.02 | fennesz | can anyone help me? |
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| 17:38.09 | rareranger | fennesz: what part? |
| 17:38.24 | fennesz | :) |
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| 17:38.40 | greycat | The "summary for the very impatient" looks sane enough. |
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| 17:38.57 | fennesz | rareranger, btw the compton did not work ... still tearing with firefox |
| 17:39.42 | fennesz | with " ssh -L 12345:localhost:5900 you@1.2.3.4" i connect to the remote machine but without viewing the remote desktop |
| 17:39.54 | greycat | That sets up the tunnel. The command after that uses the tunnel. |
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| 17:40.17 | toogley | hello. |
| 17:40.29 | fennesz | greycat , pfff you re right , let me check ! |
| 17:41.26 | rareranger | fennesz: yep now you need to start xvncviewer |
| 17:42.02 | rareranger | fennesz: sorry you lucked out with compton. |
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| 17:44.14 | fennesz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:44.19 | fennesz | I have set upnp on |
| 17:44.29 | fennesz | (on my router) |
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| 17:44.52 | rareranger | fennesz: did you replace "@1.2.3.4" with the proper ip address |
| 17:44.56 | greycat | Figure out why the vnc server closed the connection (or possibly wasn't running at all). |
| 17:45.20 | fennesz | yes |
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| 17:45.43 | fennesz | I connect to the remote Lubuntu machine |
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| 17:46.21 | fennesz | Lubuntu@machine:~$ |
| 17:46.39 | fennesz | greycat , how can I check that the vnc server is runnign |
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| 17:47.36 | rareranger | fennesz: did you intsall vino? |
| 17:47.40 | greycat | I don't know vino. The summary says to run vino-preferences and then click things. |
| 17:47.41 | fennesz | yeap |
| 17:47.44 | rareranger | *install |
| 17:47.51 | fennesz | I did that |
| 17:47.58 | fennesz | I checked the settings on vino |
| 17:48.03 | fennesz | should I start this again ? |
| 17:48.18 | greycat | "# Log out of Lubuntu PC, log back into it again locally" |
| 17:48.34 | fennesz | locally ? |
| 17:48.43 | fennesz | no remote? |
| 17:48.48 | fennesz | ssh |
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| 17:49.02 | greycat | To start the session that the VNC server presents to the ssh client. |
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| 17:49.27 | fennesz | should I just reboot , greycat ? |
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| 17:49.43 | greycat | That will not help. |
| 17:49.58 | greycat | You have to login locally via the GUI login thingy to start the X session that it will serve up |
| 17:50.16 | fennesz | ok will do that |
| 17:50.18 | greycat | If you don't have physical access to the box, then this guide isn't for you. |
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| 17:52.42 | fennesz | dont have access right now . It is connected to the tv , people are watching atm . :) |
| 17:52.44 | fennesz | :( |
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| 17:53.40 | rareranger | fennesz: that sucks. xD |
| 17:53.45 | fennesz | :) |
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| 17:55.18 | blottoface | A while ago the nagios-nrpe package had "--enable-command-args" stripped from the nagios-nrpe/$VERSION/debian/rules file. In the buglist discussion, the maintainer got in a pissing match with a bunch of people requesting the feature be re-enabled, and stormed off in a huff saying the package was "orphaned". |
| 17:55.20 | blottoface | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=756479#42 |
| 17:55.21 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/756479 in nagios-nrpe-server (open, wontfix): «nagios-nrpe-server: Ignores dont_blame_nrpe=1»; severity: important; opened: 2014-07-30; last modified: 2015-09-01. |
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| 17:55.55 | blottoface | Who do I petition or how do I go about getting the enable-command-args flag put back in the configure rules? |
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| 17:56.43 | jhutchins | blottoface: apt-get src nagios-nrpe-server... |
| 17:57.29 | blottoface | jhutchins: I can(and do) compile it on my own. I'm more concerned about getting the package fixed upstream so the default behavior is fixed. |
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| 17:59.05 | myztic | is there an 'official' channel #debian or are both (freenode, oftc) maintained by debian developers / same admins? |
| 17:59.22 | fennesz | Should I portforward port 5900? greycat |
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| 17:59.26 | Demone | Ciao! Facciamo due chiacchiere? |
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| 17:59.56 | jhutchins | myztic: Both are almost entirely non-affiliated fellow users, as with most of irc. |
| 18:00.27 | myztic | jhutchins, so the only difference is more users and therefore quicker answers on freenode |
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| 18:00.44 | jhutchins | myztic: Developer/Maintainers really don't have time for one-on-one support. |
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| 18:00.55 | hexnewbie | But we have an official blessing to lie^Whelp with Debian here, don't we? ;) |
| 18:01.04 | myztic | jhutchins, I am in so many channels and I kind of don't see the point in being in both the oftc and freenode channel |
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| 18:01.07 | jhutchins | myztic: Pretty much, and the fact that some irc clients in Debian are pre-configured for oftc. |
| 18:01.13 | spal | Is there any nice package in Debian that I can use to create presentation by writing the content as text (possibly some markup) and then converting it to PDF? |
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| 18:02.10 | hexnewbie | spal: LaTeX + Beamer. Perhaps LibreOffice Impress has some form of outline mode or something |
| 18:02.17 | jhutchins | spal: I think any default installation will have a PDF pseudo-printer, so it depends on what kind of composition tools you want. |
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| 18:02.37 | jhutchins | spal: open/libreoffice has a presentation tool as well. |
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| 18:03.20 | zeechs | hi all, I'm not sure if I should create a bug report, or just wait. The packages "mumble" and "mumble-server" depend on "libprotobuf9" while other packages, like "clementine", depend on "libprotobuf9v5". It makes it impossible to install "clementine" and "mumble" on the same machine as the two libs conflict. which sucks, I would like to have both :D |
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| 18:04.00 | zeechs | "mumble" is the only package still depending on that lib |
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| 18:11.22 | toogley | why are ntfs-3g and vlc dependencies of konsole? that doesn't make much sense to me |
| 18:11.51 | Serialbox | toogley: nor I |
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| 18:11.58 | spal | hexnewbie: jhutchins: thanks, I'll try LaTeX + Beamer |
| 18:12.42 | bolt | dammit |
| 18:12.57 | bolt | stuck at the hostname part of the install for the past 5 minutes |
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| 18:13.00 | hexnewbie | toogley: I guess Konsole needs to make sounds. And Phonon also wants to play videos, so pulls a backend for that. |
| 18:13.00 | bolt | need to think of something :/ |
| 18:13.07 | hexnewbie | toogley: Is that stretch we are talking about? |
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| 18:13.34 | toogley | hexnewbie: with konsole i mean the kde terminal |
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| 18:13.38 | joker_89 | hi |
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| 18:13.50 | joker_89 | how can i install samba from source? |
| 18:13.57 | hexnewbie | toogley: Yes. Konsole uses Phonon to play notifications (IIRC), and Phonon also does a ton of things, and needs a player backend |
| 18:14.38 | toogley | hexnewbie: oh, okay. but why then it doesn't use mplayer (as i installed it already) |
| 18:15.05 | hexnewbie | toogley: Maybe you could force it to install gstreamer instead, mplayer is not supported |
| 18:15.44 | hexnewbie | toogley: Or try installing phonon-backend-null |
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| 18:16.25 | abrotman | Grr |
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| 18:17.16 | toogley | hexnewbie: thanks |
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| 18:25.10 | rapha | Hi! |
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| 18:26.00 | rapha | I'm trying to install liblua5.1:i386 but it fails because "csound-data:i386 is not installable" - shouldn't the latter actually be architecture independent? how to solve this? |
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| 18:27.31 | rapha | (I'm on Jessie) |
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| 18:37.23 | Leonarth | anyone uses GPG? |
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| 18:38.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | Leonarth: https://xkcd.com/1553/ |
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| 18:38.42 | Leonarth | hahahahaha |
| 18:38.42 | Leonarth | so sad :) |
| 18:38.48 | Leonarth | so the answer is nobody uses it |
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| 18:39.22 | BadCodSmell | They do, mainly in automated systems |
| 18:39.36 | BadCodSmell | But it flopped for emails |
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| 18:40.03 | Leonarth | but us, we never use it to send encrypted data between eachother |
| 18:40.12 | Leonarth | probably that's why most keyservers are down |
| 18:40.31 | JoeMcCarthy | which package do I need to install in sid to get /lib/ld-lsb.so.3? |
| 18:40.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | only privacy nerds use it. |
| 18:41.27 | BadCodSmell | the only use I could ever be bothered to make of it if at all would be signing rather than encrypting |
| 18:41.47 | BadCodSmell | and these days everything is ssl anyway as long as you trust google or whoever |
| 18:41.52 | NoImNotNineVolt | JoeMcCarthy: apt-file search |
| 18:42.08 | Leonarth | but you shouldn't trust Google :) |
| 18:42.20 | BadCodSmell | historically it was aprticularly easy to spoof emails especially without things like spf |
| 18:42.42 | BadCodSmell | yeh the corporate espionage they must be able to get up to |
| 18:42.50 | JoeMcCarthy | NoImNotNineVolt, could you try it? :) I get no result :( |
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| 18:43.43 | Leonarth | I really like the idea that I paste some text here and only one user can read it :) |
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| 18:45.56 | Leonarth | so, nobody has a public key uploaded on a keyserver around here? |
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| 18:48.01 | bman__ | Leonarth, i have been trying to do the same all morning |
| 18:48.16 | Leonarth | smiles at bman__ |
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| 18:48.45 | bman__ | coincidental as it is |
| 18:48.54 | bman__ | built a deb and couldnt sign it earlier |
| 18:48.56 | Leonarth | you seen Citizenfour didn't you? :D |
| 18:49.01 | bman__ | no |
| 18:49.19 | bman__ | was trying to build my own version of shellinabox |
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| 18:51.20 | BadCodSmell | Leonarth: just take one from apt |
| 18:51.21 | JoeMcCarthy | I would like to get Google Earth running on my sid system |
| 18:51.38 | JoeMcCarthy | strace just gives me "no such file or directory", even though there obviously is this file |
| 18:51.59 | JoeMcCarthy | and from what I read this has to do with ld-lsb.so.3, but I guess it's not in the distribution |
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| 18:52.03 | BadCodSmell | Surely ENOENT or something |
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| 18:52.11 | BadCodSmell | strace -f -s1024? |
| 18:52.14 | JoeMcCarthy | there also isn't an lsb-core package listed |
| 18:52.18 | BadCodSmell | You definitely need -f |
| 18:52.25 | JoeMcCarthy | but this is some dynamic linking problem? |
| 18:52.29 | JoeMcCarthy | Please help me :) |
| 18:52.57 | BadCodSmell | JoeMcCarthy not all failed syscalls = fail program |
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| 18:53.13 | BadCodSmell | IE, for libs it will get lots of no such file/dir probing all possible locations for libs |
| 18:53.59 | BadCodSmell | That's how powerful Linux is, it just brute forces stuff all the time to find what it needs. |
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| 18:54.17 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, I'm not sure I understand what you mean. But I get "no such file or directory" on ./googleearth-bin |
| 18:54.26 | BadCodSmell | pwd changed? |
| 18:54.28 | JoeMcCarthy | on the executable itself |
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| 18:54.40 | BadCodSmell | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.46 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, that too |
| 18:55.02 | JoeMcCarthy | and in bash |
| 18:55.22 | BadCodSmell | google earth is probably found it's just outputting that message and being all confusing |
| 18:55.52 | BadCodSmell | strace -f -s1024 ./googleearth.bin |
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| 18:55.52 | BadCodSmell | oh |
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| 18:56.04 | BadCodSmell | and try /fullpathto/googleearth-bin on the off chance |
| 18:56.16 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, I already did ;) same thing |
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| 18:56.54 | BadCodSmell | So did you strace -f -s1024 ./googleearth-bin 2> googleearth-strace |
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| 18:57.22 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, I didn't redirect the output, but yes, I ran it |
| 18:57.33 | BadCodSmell | pastebin the output |
| 18:57.39 | BadCodSmell | probably whatever you are seeing is a redherring |
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| 18:59.09 | BadCodSmell | testsuite/gcc.c-torture < it's not joking |
| 18:59.19 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, pastebin.com/zUn4dxE0 |
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| 18:59.36 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, http://pastebin.com/zUn4dxE0 |
| 19:00.19 | BadCodSmell | PWD/CWD? |
| 19:00.33 | BadCodSmell | wait |
| 19:00.44 | BadCodSmell | head googleearth-bin |
| 19:01.11 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, what do you want to know? It's a 64bit ELF executable |
| 19:01.36 | BadCodSmell | you need to post more of the stack trace then |
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| 19:02.18 | neldogz | does IceWeasel also incorporate the new sponsored ads Mozilla is throwing at the firefox browser? |
| 19:02.32 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, no, I see it already; I can see though "head" now that it's linked against /lib64/ld-lsb-x86-64.so |
| 19:02.39 | JoeMcCarthy | and I don't have that file |
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| 19:03.01 | BadCodSmell | install it :D |
| 19:03.26 | GenteelBen | BadCodSmell: tbh you smell more of mackerel. |
| 19:03.27 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, apt-file search doesn't return anything |
| 19:03.30 | JoeMcCarthy | :( |
| 19:03.31 | BadCodSmell | "If the executable is a dynamically linked ELF executable, the interpreter named in the PT_INTERP segment is used to load the needed shared libraries. This interpreter is typically /lib/ld-linux.so.2 for binaries linked with glibc 2. (For binaries linked with the old Linux libc5, the interpreter was typically /lib/ld-linux.so.1.)" |
| 19:03.40 | kdhtf | Hello I am a beginner in informatic and particulary in system. I have created a ext4 partition with lucks for encryption and move files from another hard disk to this one and save new files here. Now the problem is I have got a message when I click in proprieties of a file or folder contained on this hard disk or on the free space I got the error contain: X elements, total: X. (some contents are impossible to read) and in effect later I hav |
| 19:04.27 | BadCodSmell | kdhtf is your message also encrypted? |
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| 19:04.34 | kdhtf | And on proprieties we see the type of filesystem is ext3/ext4. |
| 19:04.41 | kdhtf | No. |
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| 19:05.01 | kdhtf | BadCodSmell what do you mean? |
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| 19:05.49 | BadCodSmell | Did you definitely move the files? You didn't copy? |
| 19:06.03 | kdhtf | Yes I definetely move the files. |
| 19:06.21 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, I just made a symlink... I did made it to the initerface and the globe... but then "a crash happened while handling crash!" :( |
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| 19:07.12 | JoeMcCarthy | BadCodSmell, oh, I have no crash now after 20s :P |
| 19:07.14 | JoeMcCarthy | this is going well |
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| 19:07.26 | JoeMcCarthy | google-earth is just a buggy program I guess |
| 19:07.31 | JoeMcCarthy | for years |
| 19:07.38 | BadCodSmell | wouldn't surprise me |
| 19:07.48 | BadCodSmell | I was going to suggest a symlink |
| 19:07.54 | somiaj | neldogz: for the most part iceweasel is firefox minus any trademarks/brands, so the functionality should be identicial. If mozilla is putting this in the core of the browser (as opposed to an addon they ship with their vsion of firefox) iceweasel will most likely adopt them (you can also ask in #debian-mozilla on irc.oftc.net) |
| 19:07.57 | hurtigbuffer | hi |
| 19:07.59 | BadCodSmell | but you could also chroot it is you figure which distro it was really built in |
| 19:08.02 | kdhtf | I have not the time to play. |
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| 19:09.02 | kdhtf | I am on debian Wheezy. |
| 19:10.00 | BadCodSmell | neldogz you mean this: https://blog.mozilla.org/advancingcontent/2015/05/21/providing-a-valuable-platform-for-advertisers-content-publishers-and-users/ |
| 19:10.03 | BadCodSmell | Let me check |
| 19:10.42 | kline | hi, is there any reason why i cant find this package? https://packages.debian.org/stable/eagle with the following config: https://paste.debian.net/311703/ |
| 19:11.02 | greycat | ,v eagle |
| 19:11.03 | judd | Package: eagle on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 5.10.0-2 |
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| 19:11.59 | cheapie | kline: You're on amd64, and that package is only available for i386. |
| 19:12.07 | kline | aaaah |
| 19:12.12 | somiaj | so you'll want eagle:i386 |
| 19:12.25 | jelly | ,v eagle --arch i386 |
| 19:12.26 | judd | Package: eagle on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 5.10.0-2; wheezy/non-free: 5.12.0-3; stretch/non-free: 6.6.0-2; jessie/non-free: 6.6.0-2; sid/non-free: 6.6.0-2 |
| 19:12.35 | jelly | how quaint |
| 19:12.36 | shebaw | Hey everyone. I'm on debian jessie Xfce. Pressing the mute key on the keyboard mutes the speaker, but pressing it again won't un-mute it even though Xfce displays the message telling me that it's un-muted. I have to use Audio mixer from the multimedia menu. Anyone know how to fix this? |
| 19:12.38 | cheapie | somiaj: Assuming they have i386 enabled, that is. |
| 19:13.03 | BadCodSmell | neldogz I see no configure flag to disable it |
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| 19:14.03 | kline | youll need to forgive me, do i just drop "sudo apt-get install eagle:i386" ? |
| 19:14.35 | jelly | drop it like it's hot |
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| 19:14.47 | jelly | dpkg, tell kline about multiarch |
| 19:15.06 | cheapie | kline: If it can't find it, then do "sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386" then "sudo apt-get update". |
| 19:15.24 | kline | thanks, got it |
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| 19:15.45 | kdhtf | JoeMcCarthy can you help me? |
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| 19:16.27 | JoeMcCarthy | kdhtf, let me read your question :) |
| 19:16.37 | kdhtf | :s |
| 19:16.40 | neldogz | BadCodSmell, thank you! |
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| 19:17.03 | JoeMcCarthy | kdhtf, I must tell you that I never used encryption, so I guess I can't help you :( |
| 19:17.28 | kdhtf | JoeMcCarthy I think this is not an encryption error. |
| 19:17.38 | cheapie | Does anybody know if k8temp shows an actual temperature, or is it complete nonsense like k10temp? |
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| 19:19.36 | kdhtf | Please forget the fact my hard disk are encrypted. |
| 19:20.11 | greycat | What hard disk? Who's talking? I've forgotten. Help! |
| 19:20.20 | matthiaskrgr | cd |
| 19:20.22 | matthiaskrgr | cd ops |
| 19:20.24 | matthiaskrgr | eh.. |
| 19:20.30 | b1b0 | ls -a |
| 19:20.32 | b1b0 | :D |
| 19:20.35 | jelly | cheapie: when a driver for some hw exists, presumably it works or used to work correctly on some hardware. It's hard to predict how an architecture-specific driver might behave on your particular hardware without actually having access. So it might help if you told which hardware (cpu, motherboard) you're using that k10temp didn't work on. |
| 19:20.38 | matthiaskrgr | <.< |
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| 19:21.11 | jhutchins | kdhtf: That will affect some file properties and some tools ability to read those properties. |
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| 19:21.34 | kdhtf | graeycat There is only one hard disk and I am talking. |
| 19:21.46 | jelly | !comfort greycat |
| 19:21.46 | dpkg | There, there, greycat. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
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| 19:22.18 | cheapie | jelly: From what I've heard, modern AMD CPUs don't have temperature sensors, and instead just return some kind of number indicating an estimation of how hard the cooler needs to be working. This does mirror my observations, since it seems close under load, but goes to 20C or even lower at idle. It's warmer than that in my room. |
| 19:22.44 | kdhtf | jhutchins what? |
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| 19:24.10 | jelly | cheapie: how... nice of them |
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| 19:25.12 | cheapie | jelly: My server, unlike my desktop, is running an old Athlon 64 (K8), and so it uses the k8temp module. It returns more realistic-looking values, but I still have no clue if that's the actual temperature. |
| 19:25.26 | kdhtf | jhutchins what I need to do and what is the problem? |
| 19:25.31 | jhutchins | kdhtf: What is this keeping you from? |
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| 19:27.03 | kdhtf | I have got what? |
| 19:27.45 | jelly | cheapie: my limited experience with old amd-based laptop suggests the value given by k8termp is actual temperature |
| 19:27.46 | jhutchins | !fr |
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| 20:06.49 | BadCodSmell | hell is debian |
| 20:07.39 | jhutchins | BadCodSmell: Are we having fun today? |
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| 20:11.48 | cxd13 | in the debian installer you can choose the default language for the installed system on the first screen, but it also makes the rest of the installer show up in that language. is there any way to install a language for debian but have the installer stay in english? |
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| 20:12.17 | cxd13 | because i'm installing for an arabic friend but don't speak the language |
| 20:12.20 | greycat | Just run the install in English, then after you boot into Debian, run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and generate the other locales you want. |
| 20:12.51 | cxd13 | alright |
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| 20:16.19 | ioudas | BadCodSmell, nah youre thinking about systemd |
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| 20:57.21 | syntaks | anyone know how to enable sslv2 offhand in wheezy? |
| 20:57.35 | syntaks | i disabled it during the heartbleed issues but it's causing some other build issues |
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| 21:00.03 | joker_89 | how can i reconfigure krb5? |
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| 21:05.08 | ivand | hi. If i have a source tree for a program with debian in it. How do I generate the _orig file? |
| 21:05.23 | ivand | *with debian/ in it |
| 21:05.25 | greycat | normally dpkg-buildpackage does that |
| 21:06.16 | ivand | greycat: thank you |
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| 21:15.37 | teamcoltra | Hey guys... I am tryint to rename all my empty files to a new filename using find. I have "find *.txt -type f -empty -exec mv $1 $1.text {} \;" but that would make the file 1.txt -> 1.txt.text is there a way to remove the .txt from the $1 variable? |
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| 21:16.33 | OneShad0w | hi |
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| 21:18.07 | teamcoltra | nvm got it |
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| 21:21.49 | millican | Could one expect anything catastrophic by changing "wheezy" in the sources.list file to "stable"? |
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| 21:24.34 | Brigo | millican, you will update your system from wheezy 7, to jessie 8. |
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| 21:25.58 | millican | That's not too trivial. I should do a backup again before trying that. Thanks. |
| 21:30.04 | jhutchins | millican: It's not recommended, you would want to change wheezy to jessie. |
| 21:30.17 | jhutchins | millican: Backups are wonderful things. |
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| 21:33.40 | millican | True. |
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| 21:35.42 | g00se1 | millican: in the last few days, there've been quite a few people in here with catastrophic results from doing that. A backup is a must |
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| 21:37.14 | g00se1 | And afaik it will systemd-ize your system, which is a BIG change |
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| 21:38.10 | millican | It may be the cold medicine, but I'll have to look up what that is. |
| 21:38.14 | die7 | since I have installed 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 my cpu funs are on max speed even if core tem is 42 |
| 21:38.37 | die7 | any exp? |
| 21:39.08 | g00se1 | You'd better |
| 21:39.21 | BadCodSmell | there is a package you often need but I forget what. though it sounds more like a kmod issue or something |
| 21:39.47 | millican | I have the opposite problem on my Thinkpad after installing 3.16.0-4-amd64. The fans won't speed up even up to 100C and things start to smell funny. I had to write a script to manually speed the fan up. |
| 21:39.53 | BadCodSmell | what did you install it from (from what to what)? |
| 21:39.53 | die7 | kmod is running as coretemp is loaded |
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| 21:40.03 | die7 | lm_sensors are maded but still |
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| 21:40.39 | die7 | kernel origin by debian channels |
| 21:40.42 | g00se1 | millican: so - something like a bad cod smell? |
| 21:41.14 | BadCodSmell | https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling |
| 21:41.14 | millican | g00se1: haha. like hot plastic smell. The cold is just something I picked up recently. |
| 21:41.45 | BadCodSmell | make sure your cpu is scaling first |
| 21:42.06 | die7 | BadCodSmell: yepp, already used as documnented |
| 21:42.12 | die7 | BadCodSmell: no changes |
| 21:42.29 | millican | die7: Out of curiosity, what type of cpu is it? |
| 21:42.32 | BadCodSmell | well its debian probably they just broke it and you shoulddowngrade |
| 21:42.42 | BadCodSmell | downgrade and see if it fixes the issue |
| 21:42.56 | BadCodSmell | you can apt-get install package=version |
| 21:43.06 | die7 | Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T5600 @ 1.83GHz |
| 21:43.21 | BadCodSmell | and apt-mark hold packagename until they fix it |
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| 21:46.47 | die7 | BadCodSmell: nothing to fix |
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| 21:48.17 | millican | die7: Under /proc/acpi/ibm I have an entry to look at the fan status. Do you by chance have anything similar? |
| 21:49.20 | die7 | millican: no |
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| 21:53.12 | Hello5hitty | Is there any tool for Debian that tells me my memory model? |
| 21:53.31 | Hello5hitty | I know I have a Corsair Vengeance but I need to know the exact model! |
| 21:53.39 | Hello5hitty | And I didin't want to open the laptop |
| 21:53.51 | die7 | Hello5hitty: dmidecode |
| 21:54.00 | Hello5hitty | ok |
| 21:54.02 | Hello5hitty | thanks |
| 21:54.05 | Hello5hitty | I'm going to try |
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| 21:58.35 | BadCodSmell | Who can I contact about the bloody insanity in the gdd package? |
| 21:59.00 | BadCodSmell | I mean ffs is it generating a control file from the control file in a chicken and the egg? |
| 21:59.36 | BadCodSmell | How the hell do they literally turned control into losing control |
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| 21:59.52 | BadCodSmell | gcc* |
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| 22:00.17 | markybob | BadCodSmell, no one expects things to work during this transition. that's just how it is |
| 22:00.33 | BadCodSmell | What transition? |
| 22:00.38 | markybob | gcc5 |
| 22:00.47 | BadCodSmell | its gcc 4.9 |
| 22:00.59 | BadCodSmell | Everytime I apt-source something, madness. |
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| 22:01.37 | BadCodSmell | you get the source for a package in debian and suddenly cthulu |
| 22:01.43 | BadCodSmell | you try to build it computer says salgo |
| 22:01.48 | BadCodSmell | zalgo* |
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| 22:02.33 | BadCodSmell | and they think making package produce identical binaries is their biggest problem |
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| 22:05.59 | millican | Is anyone here familiar with Debian's use of hardware-based encryption and random number generation? |
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| 22:06.57 | die7 | millican: luks? |
| 22:07.48 | die7 | millican: dm-crypt + luks using for years |
| 22:07.53 | millican | padlock. scp runs at about 1MB/s on a machine with hardware-based encryption. |
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| 22:09.04 | millican | I'll look at the dm-crypt and luks. Thanks. |
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| 22:10.51 | anoob | I can connect to my wireless network with my Debian Stable box but there is not Internet. Connecting it with my smartphone does have Internet :( |
| 22:11.48 | die7 | anoob: check what is inside of /etc/resolv.conf |
| 22:12.11 | die7 | anoob: and ping google.com |
| 22:13.24 | g00se1 | ifconfig -a |
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| 22:13.58 | iio7 | cd |
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| 22:14.59 | anoob | die7, http://pastie.org/10420101 |
| 22:15.22 | anoob | die7, ping returns unreacheble host |
| 22:15.53 | anoob | die7, i use network manager, gnome and debian stable |
| 22:16.00 | markybob | anoob, can you ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 22:16.11 | anoob | markybob no |
| 22:16.26 | g00se1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.43 | g00se1 | And dmesg for the interface |
| 22:17.54 | anoob | g00se1, http://pastie.org/10420105 |
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| 22:18.14 | anoob | g00se1, dmesg | grep -i wlan0 ? |
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| 22:19.34 | g00se1 | Why are you attempting to use TWO interfaces btw? |
| 22:20.01 | anoob | actually i am using eth0 right now because my wireless is not working |
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| 22:20.31 | g00se1 | yes to the previous |
| 22:20.34 | owkword | hello. |
| 22:22.27 | anoob | g00se1, http://pastie.org/10420112 |
| 22:22.34 | owkword | since a couple of weeks ago i have been having random screen problems when using xrandr to rotate or change the resolution. sometime it works fine, sometimes the screen never comes back on after going black in preparation for the change. I can still change virtual terminals and do stuff in the console, but switching back to vt7 doesn't help - the screen remains black. Closing the lid to suspend the whole laptop and then waking it up a |
| 22:22.34 | owkword | gain does help though, the screen comes back alive after that. |
| 22:22.49 | owkword | Any idea what could be wrong, and where I should look to try to fix it? |
| 22:23.06 | owkword | My graphics card according to lspci: 00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wrestler [Radeon HD 7290] |
| 22:23.20 | g00se1 | It's odd, as it's looking quite good |
| 22:23.28 | owkword | (using the most recent kernels and xorgs in debian stable) |
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| 22:25.31 | BB | I am having trouble with geting conky started |
| 22:27.17 | millican | BB: What happens when you launch it from the terminal? |
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| 22:29.00 | BB | I type conky and I get a message single buffer and a ..... but when I click on my screen or close the terminal it closes conky |
| 22:29.14 | die7 | it looks like lm_sensoers doe not know anymore applesmc-isa-0300 |
| 22:29.23 | die7 | so it run it om max speed |
| 22:29.36 | squarecircle | ohai |
| 22:30.39 | millican | BB: Are you using the default conkyrc? |
| 22:30.41 | squarecircle | got some trouble with my T23 sporting a S3 Savage Graphics card, does somebody hint me to where I find the right drivers? 800x600 is driving me mad |
| 22:30.46 | BB | yes |
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| 22:31.51 | squarecircle | *could |
| 22:31.59 | abrotman | squarecircle: how did you install Xorg? |
| 22:32.24 | anoob | g00se1, did you talk to me? |
| 22:32.30 | BadCodSmell | S3 Savage? |
| 22:32.38 | millican | BB: I'm trying to find what method I'm using to start conky at startup on this machine. |
| 22:32.51 | BB | okay |
| 22:33.16 | g00se1 | Yes. Try |
| 22:33.16 | g00se1 | ping -I wlan0 google.com |
| 22:33.39 | BB | well I have it on startup but when I try to edit it it just will not stay on screen and says it is null deal with program |
| 22:33.48 | millican | What desktop or window manager are you using? |
| 22:34.08 | squarecircle | abrotman: netinst |
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| 22:34.18 | millican | Conky reloads when the .conkyrc file is changed. |
| 22:34.48 | BadCodSmell | squarecircle 800x600 in console or x? |
| 22:34.55 | squarecircle | x |
| 22:35.05 | BadCodSmell | knowing debian then it probably changes .conkyrc |
| 22:35.29 | BadCodSmell | apt-cache search xserver | grep driv |
| 22:35.44 | squarecircle | I'm really surprised, that i was able to work on that resolution 15 years ago |
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| 22:36.18 | anoob | g00se1, it's does the ping but i am wired ... |
| 22:36.24 | BB | I am editing the .conkyrc and save but when I try to edit it in any way it says program is null or when I try to lock it to the screen it will not stay... I am about to tear my hair....a hhhh |
| 22:36.30 | millican | BB: Could it be the edits? If I make a mistake changing mine, it won't load and just goes away. |
| 22:36.48 | abrotman | squarecircle: aptitude install xorg ? |
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| 22:36.51 | BB | edits? |
| 22:36.54 | g00se1 | Look more closely at the command. If it does it, it's doing it through wlan0 |
| 22:36.58 | millican | The changes you're making. |
| 22:37.12 | BB | do you mean the .conkyrc file? |
| 22:37.18 | millican | Yes. Sorry. |
| 22:37.22 | abrotman | squarecircle: lspci -nn | grep VGA .. what is the PCIID? |
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| 22:37.28 | BadCodSmell | Last time I booted an old laptop I was also really surprised I could wank at that resolution when I was 15 years old. |
| 22:37.47 | BadCodSmell | squarecircle dpkg -al | grep xserver | grep driv |
| 22:37.48 | anoob | g00se1, yes, i saw it ... |
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| 22:38.02 | anoob | g00se1, anyway, i will disconnect my wire |
| 22:38.05 | squarecircle | abrotman: well Gnome3 runs, but on 800x600 instead 1024x768 |
| 22:38.11 | g00se1 | Yes |
| 22:38.15 | abrotman | squarecircle: this doesn't answer my questions ... |
| 22:38.25 | BadCodSmell | xserver-xorg-video-savage - X.Org X server -- Savage display driver |
| 22:38.27 | squarecircle | BadCodSmell: savage driver is already installed |
| 22:38.31 | BadCodSmell | squarecircle make your you have that |
| 22:38.32 | squarecircle | abrotman: second |
| 22:38.36 | BadCodSmell | Take a look in Xorg log |
| 22:38.39 | millican | BB: So, when you start the machine, conky runs fine until you click on the screen? |
| 22:38.41 | abrotman | BadCodSmell: please stop "helping" |
| 22:38.45 | g00se1 | What dm are you using btw? |
| 22:39.16 | BadCodSmell | abrotman: please explain what gnome has to do with screen resolution |
| 22:39.32 | abrotman | BadCodSmell: I didn't say it does, I'm just saying you're not helping |
| 22:39.40 | anoob | g00se1, http://pastie.org/10420137 |
| 22:39.46 | BB | Sorry it is when I try and edit it to how I like conky to be and it just says program null |
| 22:39.47 | anoob | the last try was without the wire |
| 22:40.15 | BadCodSmell | abrotman: we established he has the driver, next if for him to check his xorg log and start looking at xorg config. |
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| 22:40.30 | millican | I hate to say it, but it could just be something in the syntax you're wanting to use for the .conkyrc |
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| 22:41.22 | squarecircle | abrotman: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: S3 Graphics Ltd. SuperSavage IX/C SDR [5333:8c2e] (rev 05) |
| 22:41.39 | BB | well I appreciate the help thank you |
| 22:41.56 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.06 | g00se1 | ping -I wlan0 216.58.210.78 |
| 22:42.29 | millican | What changes are you wanting? |
| 22:43.11 | millican | You've probably already found the Arch and Crunchbang discussions on conky. |
| 22:44.02 | BB | yea I think it was what you said it is most likely the driver not the car |
| 22:44.09 | squarecircle | abrotman: ? |
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| 22:44.34 | anoob | g00se1, now its doing the ping |
| 22:45.13 | millican | The syntax is a bit different, and I have to look up examples for any little thing i want to add. I forget how to "drive" pretty quickly. |
| 22:45.29 | g00se1 | Looks like you've got a flaky network. your ping speeds are slow and dns is flaky |
| 22:45.41 | abrotman | squarecircle: moment, family called .. but yes, please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log in paste.debian.net |
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| 22:45.57 | anoob | g00se1, it weird because my smartphone works fine |
| 22:45.57 | BB | I really wish someone would wright a book on conky syntax |
| 22:46.07 | BadCodSmell | squarecircle: /var/log/Xorg[tab]... /etc/X11/xorg.conf* grepping the xorg log for EE/WW can be helpful if the log is really large. |
| 22:46.18 | millican | Are you using lua as well? |
| 22:46.25 | squarecircle | I'll try it ... |
| 22:46.55 | BB | no I do not know how to configure that with conky |
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| 22:47.07 | g00se1 | Are you sure it's using the LAN and not something else? |
| 22:47.08 | squarecircle | well its starting iceweasel ... |
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| 22:47.44 | g00se1 | (like 3/4G) |
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| 22:48.10 | anoob | g00se1, yes i do |
| 22:48.34 | g00se1 | You mean 'yes i am'? |
| 22:49.48 | anoob | sorry, g00se1 ... yes, i am :) |
| 22:49.59 | anoob | g00se1, english is not my native language, sorry |
| 22:50.26 | g00se1 | Try another regular machine on the same lan and see how it behaves |
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| 22:52.13 | g00se1 | anoob: Good luck - it's nearly midnight here and it's time to get some shuteye |
| 22:52.14 | BadCodSmell | squarecircle there are a lore of subjects on google close to this "t23 x11 resolution" |
| 22:52.18 | BadCodSmell | lots* |
| 22:52.46 | anoob | g00se1, no problem. thanks you very much and have a good night! :) |
| 22:52.56 | g00se1 | :) |
| 22:53.18 | squarecircle | https://paste.debian.net/311729/ |
| 22:55.01 | squarecircle | BadCodSmell: I'm too stupid to use google *facepalm* |
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| 22:56.07 | abrotman | looks |
| 22:56.20 | abrotman | squarecircle: FWIW, S3 cards are generally *awful* |
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| 22:57.10 | abrotman | squarecircle: what is the output from 'xrandr -q' |
| 22:58.48 | squarecircle | abrotman: https://paste.debian.net/311730/ |
| 22:59.35 | abrotman | squarecircle: installed s3switch ? |
| 22:59.41 | abrotman | judd: info s3switch |
| 22:59.43 | judd | No package named 's3switch' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 22:59.47 | abrotman | liar! |
| 22:59.54 | abrotman | judd: info s3switch --arch i386 |
| 22:59.56 | judd | Package s3switch (utils, extra) in jessie/i386: Manage the output device on S3 Savage chips. Version: 0.1-1; Size: 13.4k; Installed: 57k |
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| 23:06.21 | anoob | this is my wireless info: http://i.imgur.com/8quZ7AN.png |
| 23:06.59 | squarecircle | abrotman: nope, wasn't is installing |
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| 23:07.54 | BadCodSmell | I have seen cases where just putting 1024x768 in the list of resolutions has done the trick |
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| 23:08.20 | BadCodSmell | I think he means to turn off other outputs which you could do with bios or hotkeys possibly |
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| 23:09.43 | BadCodSmell | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=121763 |
| 23:09.51 | BadCodSmell | You can alwys try nodemodeset, etc as well. |
| 23:11.03 | BadCodSmell | https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=13554.0 |
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| 23:12.19 | BadCodSmell | this guy used the vesa bootflag, look in /etc/default/grub, change that and you can update-grub and reboot |
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| 23:20.40 | squarecircle | BadCodSmell: xforcevesa does not do the trick |
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| 23:23.46 | BadCodSmell | squarecircle: check you dont have an old auto generated xorg.conf messing things up |
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| 23:26.33 | squarecircle | theres no /etc/X11/xorg* |
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| 23:29.20 | BadCodSmell | there doesn't seem much other than fiddling more with the boot parameters, putting 1024x768 in the range of resolutions in xorg.conf, turning off the other outputs with s3switch, trying a vesa driver instead of s3 in xorg.conf. |
| 23:29.54 | BadCodSmell | ifyou dont have an xorg.conf i suggest trying to auto generate one since right now you have no basis to try anything regarding xorg conf |
| 23:30.20 | BadCodSmell | sometimes x11 auto guessing during start ill just get it wrong so you should have a conf really as a baseline |
| 23:30.37 | squarecircle | woah, thats to long way to walk today, I'll care about this later this week or next WE |
| 23:30.57 | squarecircle | abrotman: BadCodSmell thank you |
| 23:31.19 | squarecircle | I'll see to it somewhen later, or i'll install debian 7 |
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| 23:42.48 | abrotman | squarecircle: you could try #xorg |
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| 23:46.43 | squarecircle | abrotman: later |
| 23:46.57 | squarecircle | abrotman: trying to get soemthing done for my studies |
| 23:46.59 | squarecircle | :D |
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