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| 00:01.59 | Cyberweb | i don't have any important data, that isn't back'ed up. |
| 00:02.47 | boycottg00gle | Cyberweb: what do you mean by appeared to freeze? do you still have a light showing disk/ssd activity? |
| 00:03.33 | Scott0_ | why does debian do such different things with apache2 to where those in #httpd won't support it |
| 00:05.01 | Cyberweb | By freeze, i mean that i left it over night and nothing happened. The last message was something about something waiting for more then 120 seconds and a message not showing because of that. |
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| 00:06.14 | Cyberweb | which happened before i went to sleep. so, no new output for 8+ hours. |
| 00:06.41 | jmcnaught | Scott0_: i don't know why, but it probably has something to do with making it easier for other packages to drop conf files into /etc/apache2 and have them work. If you need some help you could put the conf file for your virtualhost on a pastebin so people here can check it out (maybe replace sensitive info with example.com if you're concerned) |
| 00:07.40 | boycottg00gle | Cyberweb: ah ok - just thought you maybe were to impatient |
| 00:08.26 | Scott0_ | its not the virtualhost |
| 00:08.43 | Scott0_ | im having issues getting php to render with mpm worker and cgid |
| 00:08.50 | Scott0_ | I think im missing the addtype line |
| 00:08.54 | Scott0_ | but im not sure where ot put it |
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| 00:09.16 | Cyberweb | so did i. the reason i booted into a live system was to get more feedback. when i did, it gave me more questions. |
| 00:09.35 | Scott0_ | without the phpmodule enabled, apache has no clue what a php file is |
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| 00:09.52 | Scott0_ | and all I was instructed to put in actions.conf was Action application/x-httpd-php /cgi-bin/php5 |
| 00:09.58 | nicon` | Hi folks. |
| 00:10.18 | Scott0_ | but if apache doesn't know what qualifies as an application/x-httpd-php then it won't work |
| 00:10.23 | nicon` | I got some weird anomaly with mysql on debian. No one was able to help me in #mysql, maybe I will be more lucky here. |
| 00:10.42 | boycottg00gle | Cyberweb: have to get a sleep - good luck |
| 00:10.45 | nicon` | I got three servers. |
| 00:10.48 | markybob | Scott0_, and you did a2enmod? |
| 00:10.52 | Cyberweb | thanks. sleep well! |
| 00:11.06 | Scott0_ | markybob: for which? |
| 00:11.08 | nicon` | client, server1, server2. I connect from client to server1:. |
| 00:11.11 | nicon` | I'm getting "access denied" error, which is logical, because DNS is pointing to client.domain.com, not client, and host in mysql.user is 'client.domain'. |
| 00:11.19 | Scott0_ | I enabled mod_cgid and actions |
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| 00:11.32 | nicon` | mysql.user is 'client', sorry. |
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| 00:11.55 | nicon` | but... it's working for server2. |
| 00:12.06 | nicon` | When I try to login with wrong password, I see access denied for user@client.domain.com. |
| 00:12.15 | nicon` | But if I login with correct password then it's working. |
| 00:12.23 | nicon` | Even though grant is with 'client' without domain. |
| 00:12.34 | nicon` | my.cnf is almost same (server1 is missing replication configuration). |
| 00:12.40 | nicon` | resolving is handled by /etc/hosts |
| 00:12.46 | jmcnaught | !enter |
| 00:12.46 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 00:12.49 | nicon` | And it's same on all three servers. |
| 00:13.24 | nicon` | Sorry, didn't wanted to write very long message (explaining this problem would be quite problematic without new lines) ;-) |
| 00:13.54 | nicon` | Anyway, it's debian 8.2 with mysql 5.6-26. |
| 00:13.58 | Scott0_ | nicon`: start with a suimmarized version you can fit on one line |
| 00:14.11 | Scott0_ | nicon`: no one read all that |
| 00:14.42 | jmcnaught | Scott0_: i don't really know cgid, i usually use mod_fcgid for PHP, and only need to configure each site in a separate vhost (using FcgidWrapper I think, but it's been a while...) |
| 00:14.46 | nicon` | Scott0_: I believe it's hard to summarize it in one line, as it's quite unusual problem - I got couple years of experience and I never saw mysql/system behaviour like this one. |
| 00:15.14 | Scott0_ | nicon`: it sounds like a configuration problem |
| 00:15.32 | Scott0_ | nicon`: and no one but you is going to understand your configuration between 3 servers |
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| 00:15.48 | nicon` | Scott0_: same my.cnf on both servers, same /etc/hosts on all three servers, all handled by puppet. |
| 00:15.59 | Scott0_ | nicon`: try to isolate the issue |
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| 00:16.35 | Scott0_ | nicon`: what's not happening that you expect to happen |
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| 00:16.40 | nicon` | Okay, interesting part: it doesn't matter on server2 if grant is for user@client, or user@client.domain.com - it works in both ways. |
| 00:17.02 | nicon` | For server1 it works only for user@client.domain.com - which is logical. |
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| 00:17.18 | jmcnaught | nicon`: is the search different in the /etc/resolv.conf on the different servers? |
| 00:17.32 | nicon` | Nope. |
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| 00:17.38 | Scott0_ | I hate dns issues :P |
| 00:17.44 | nicon` | There's no 'search' at all in resolv.conf. |
| 00:17.51 | nicon` | hosts file looks like that: 192.168.0.1 klient1.domena.pl klient1\n192.168.0.2 serwer1.domena.pl\n192.168.0.3 serwer2.domena.pl |
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| 00:18.05 | Scott0_ | jmcnaught: do you configure the php handler in the vhost area? |
| 00:18.27 | Scott0_ | jmcnaught: rather than in the module confs |
| 00:18.38 | nicon` | Scott0_: sorry, there is search in resolv.conf, but it's same on all servers. |
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| 00:19.59 | Cyberweb | my system does use lvm. i found the partition but, when i ran "fsck /dev/mapper/debbie-data" it returned: http://pastebin.com/bdTF12dX |
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| 00:23.33 | jmcnaught | Scott0_: like i said it's been a while. Check the examples here (if you decide to use fcgid that is): http://httpd.apache.org/mod_fcgid/mod/mod_fcgid.html#examples |
| 00:23.58 | Scott0_ | I got it working |
| 00:24.03 | Scott0_ | it was a single number missing |
| 00:24.10 | Scott0_ | its application/x-httpd-php5 not application/x-httpd-php |
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| 00:24.13 | Scott0_ | :( |
| 00:25.03 | Scott0_ | wait nm, it was the addtype |
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| 00:25.27 | Scott0_ | where are addhandlers supposed to go in debian |
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| 00:28.23 | nicon` | Scott0_: any idea? :-) |
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| 00:29.08 | Scott0_ | nicon`: you have too much going on |
| 00:29.16 | Scott0_ | nicon`: try to isolate it |
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| 00:31.42 | milledel | I'm looking for a command line "system administrators log", sorta like the Captain's log from StarTrekk. I've tried searching but the only thing my queries return are man pages or additional info for syslog. My goog-fu is weak. Anyone know if such a beast exists? |
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| 00:32.25 | ryouma | milledel: what features do you need? |
| 00:32.48 | nicon` | Scott0_: how? :-) |
| 00:33.00 | ryouma | echo `date` met some klingons, had a beer |
| 00:33.02 | bagbobilgins | milledel: ~/.history or acct |
| 00:33.21 | ryouma | oh, you want that? typescript(1) |
| 00:33.27 | ryouma | script(1) |
| 00:33.27 | cxd13 | logs are usually in /var/log |
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| 00:33.43 | zm1 | View /var/log/messages also various other daemons, etc log to various files in /var/log. It really depends on how the program, and whether they use syslog and how it is configured. |
| 00:33.57 | ryouma | etckeeper shoudl be mentioned |
| 00:34.07 | bagbobilgins | my apologies, ~/.bash_history |
| 00:34.33 | bagbobilgins | if you use the root account also /root/.bash_history |
| 00:34.42 | jmcnaught | milledel: do you mean something for sysadmins to document changes they have made? Maybe look into etckeeper which puts /etc in a git repo, integrates with apt-get. Otherwise you could consider setting up a wiki or ticket system for documenting this stuff |
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| 00:35.14 | bagbobilgins | sorry, milledel, misunderstood |
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| 00:36.15 | milledel | Not sure. I'd like it to work something like the the Captain's log ie: $ CaptLog <date> "Free form text to log". '$CaptLog 50' would return the last 50 log entries. Something I could use on a system to make notes as to what's been done. |
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| 00:38.15 | milledel | Not looking for change control, just general notes. |
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| 00:39.23 | cxd13 | dmesg might be a good place to look |
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| 00:39.45 | cxd13 | auth.log if you have remote connections |
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| 00:42.38 | jmcnaught | milledel: the closest i can find is "jrnl" which is not in Debian but could be installed by pip in a virtualenv (don't use pip as root). Or you could just make a bash alias like "echo $(date) $* >> mydiary.txt" |
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| 00:43.04 | milledel | cxd13: No, not log files. More like a journal. ryouma's "echo `date` met some klingons, had a beer" would work but I was hoping for a more polished solution. |
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| 00:44.01 | cxd13 | doesn't exist |
| 00:44.08 | cxd13 | and you used the word log |
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| 00:44.29 | milledel | jmcnaught: thanks, I'll have a look. |
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| 00:45.38 | ryouma | milledel: what editor do you use? |
| 00:45.47 | ryouma | milledel: maybe you can do soething in the editor |
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| 00:46.05 | Nightmare2 | anyone here know of a good ircd? |
| 00:46.10 | milledel | cxd13: sorry for my use of the word 'log' to describe a journal. :-) |
| 00:46.27 | milledel | ryouma: I'm a vim man. |
| 00:46.34 | cxd13 | the echo thing jmcnaught said is a good idea |
| 00:46.39 | cxd13 | you could do that |
| 00:46.55 | cxd13 | i misunderstood the question |
| 00:47.02 | zm1 | Charybdis or hybrid are what I prefer. There is ratbox also. Atheme is nice as far as services are concerned. |
| 00:47.37 | jmcnaught | milledel: i'm also a vim user, but ryouma's comment reminded me about org-mode for emacs.. maybe there's a vim script that is similar |
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| 00:48.38 | cxd13 | jmcnaught: how would you alias that so that you could type a message into mydiary.txt |
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| 00:48.43 | bagbobilgins | milledel: you can comment config files to your liking...? |
| 00:49.27 | cxd13 | or maybe that's what the $* was |
| 00:49.41 | Nightmare2 | can anyone recomend a IRCD |
| 00:50.02 | jmcnaught | cxd13: yeah the $* part is "all the parameters" in bash |
| 00:50.46 | jmcnaught | Nightmare2: someone recommended a few above, no need to repeat every 3 minutes |
| 00:51.07 | Nightmare2 | jmcnaught, Where where they reccomended. |
| 00:51.11 | Nightmare2 | nmv |
| 00:51.12 | cxd13 | jmcnaught: so if you alias journal to echo whatever >> mydiary.txt you use it by typing "journal example text here" |
| 00:51.13 | Nightmare2 | zm1, ty |
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| 00:51.29 | Nightmare2 | jmcnaught, next time just say the name of who suggested instead of clogging up the channel with more useless imfo! |
| 00:51.46 | milledel | bagbobilgins: Yes, however, I desire a single spot for general system notes. So far "jrnl" looks to be what I'm after. |
| 00:51.50 | jmcnaught | Nightmare2: i'll keep that in mind... |
| 00:52.29 | Nightmare2 | zm1, how is Charbdis? |
| 00:52.35 | Nightmare2 | I heard it was 0dayed pretty badly a few years ago |
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| 00:53.03 | bagbobilgins | milledel: there is always the possibility of commenting your bash commands and using a script to rotate out the .bash_history |
| 00:53.47 | Nightmare2 | "Over the past 1,5 year the company analyzed data of 70 ISPâs. The findings show that on average 4% of all traffic is junk, such as spam and DDoS attacks topping 1,5TB of data, per second." |
| 00:53.54 | Nightmare2 | http://www.irc-junkie.org/2008-04-08/majority-of-junk-traffic-consists-of-ddos-targetted-at-irc-servers/ |
| 00:53.58 | Nightmare2 | :O!!! |
| 00:55.27 | milledel | bagbobilgins: I'm thinking less about bash commands and more along the lines of "04/01/2015: Replace DISK 2 of the RAID" |
| 00:56.16 | jmcnaught | milledel: honestly i think a wiki or ticket system would be a better place for that stuff, especially if the server won't start for example |
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| 00:59.11 | milledel | jmcnaught: It very well might be, boot failure is something to consider. I work with small businesses and was thinking of something that would stick with the server for myself, or perhaps, the next guy to take over. |
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| 01:02.01 | milledel | thanks all for the suggestions. |
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| 01:05.27 | ryouma | speaking of these things, it would be great if grub and initramfs could write out to a file |
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| 01:15.54 | Brigo | ryouma, there is no filesystem access in that stage of boot process. |
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| 01:25.28 | Nightmare2 | so |
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| 01:25.33 | Nightmare2 | I have a file called java |
| 01:25.37 | Nightmare2 | but when I go to run it I get this |
| 01:25.44 | Nightmare2 | bash: ./java: No such file or directory |
| 01:25.45 | Nightmare2 | wat |
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| 01:34.46 | bagbobilgins | maybe you need to java ./java |
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| 01:49.02 | zhxk | !paste |
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| 02:03.06 | lasdam | so I had a problem with apt or apt-get specifically that I voiced here before, basically apt seem to act very weird when it comes to dependencies and autoremove. this time I seem to have a better example. I just installed stockfish and scid using apt-get, then removed scid, and followingly get this list of candidates for autoremove: The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: |
| 02:03.06 | lasdam | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.06 | lasdam | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:04.04 | lasdam | list of autoremoves: https://paste.debian.net/311886/ where's the sense? |
| 02:04.23 | ragutierrez | Hello can someone help me configuring TexMaker. I got the error 'bibtex.sty' not found. |
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| 02:06.11 | themill | lasdam: looks a lot like you removed gnome. |
| 02:06.16 | themill | dpkg: tell lasdam about unmarkauto |
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| 02:07.46 | lasdam | themill: oh yeah, through some seeming black magic the package 'gnome' has been uninstalled, but I certainly never selected it to be removed though |
| 02:07.46 | themill | the tcl packages in that list might be related to what you specifically just did but the rest will have already been like that |
| 02:08.11 | themill | you probably tried to remove one of its dependencies and didn't notice that it was also removed |
| 02:08.55 | lasdam | I guess so |
| 02:09.44 | lasdam | you're probably right. thanks |
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| 03:12.00 | shay_shay | <judd> Backporting package nodejs in experimentalâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, archignore, jessie-backports. |
| 03:12.08 | shay_shay | what does it mean by archignore |
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| 03:16.52 | shay_shay | nvm. mk-build-deps succeeded when I added jessie-backports like Judd suggested |
| 03:16.55 | shay_shay | :P |
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| 03:31.59 | ryouma | is big-cursor the only option if i want a larger mouse pointer? if possible i also want it to not have a white outline. i use fluxbox. |
| 03:32.15 | ryouma | also, big-cursor does not seem to make much difference |
| 03:32.39 | shay_shay | !tell mze1 don't break debian |
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| 03:50.23 | asterismo_m | hi ppl |
| 03:50.45 | asterismo_m | does anydoby has experience with owncloud that maybe can help in pv? |
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| 04:04.50 | netsca | Is there any way to compile i3-gaps so it doesn;t override standard i3? |
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| 04:10.39 | Kyaw | On Debain Jessie, is there any pre-installed text editor? I couldn't find vim and nano. |
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| 04:11.08 | JZA | hi I got a vps and I tried to check the user mail and get the following |
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| 04:11.13 | JZA | Cannot open mailbox /var/mail/jza: Permission denied |
| 04:11.18 | JZA | I already did a adduser jza mail |
| 04:11.21 | nkuttler | Kyaw: try $EDITOR |
| 04:11.26 | netsca | Kyaw vi is preinstalled |
| 04:11.31 | JZA | and a chmod ug+rw /var/mail/jza |
| 04:11.35 | JZA | but still get the same issue |
| 04:11.50 | JZA | anything else I am missing |
| 04:12.16 | Kyaw | @nkuttler, $EDITOR give me empty string. |
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| 04:12.37 | nkuttler | Kyaw: what netsca said |
| 04:12.50 | Kyaw | @netca, I think vi is not even installed because 'which vi' returns nothing. |
| 04:13.23 | nkuttler | Kyaw: doesn't sound like a standard debian install |
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| 04:13.39 | nkuttler | Kyaw: sensible-editor? |
| 04:14.17 | nkuttler | Kyaw: anyway, just apt-get install whatever you want |
| 04:14.41 | JZA | anyone? |
| 04:15.36 | nkuttler | JZA: ls -l /var/mail/ ? |
| 04:15.41 | Kyaw | @nkuttler, I'm on boot2docker machine. I presume it's debian. Output of `uname -a` is this. Linux e4fe3db505c4 4.0.9-boot2docker #1 SMP Thu Aug 13 03:05:44 UTC 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 04:16.14 | JZA | nkuttler: ok I see it has root owner, thanks, working now |
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| 04:16.40 | nkuttler | Kyaw: bootdocker looks like it's own linux distribution.. |
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| 04:19.57 | Kyaw | @nkuttler, I thought boot2docker is based on Debian. https://github.com/boot2docker/boot2docker/blob/master/Dockerfile#L1 |
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| 04:21.27 | Rusty1 | !debian based |
| 04:21.27 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 04:24.34 | Kyaw | @nkuttler & @Rusty1, thanks for your help. |
| 04:26.59 | Rusty1 | Kyaw: try apt-get install vim, who knows? |
| 04:27.58 | Kyaw | @Rusty1 yeah. I installed it and all good now. Thanks |
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| 04:39.54 | cjen129 | is there a VNC client in debian repos? |
| 04:40.00 | cjen129 | i need a quick way to connect to a friend's computer |
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| 04:41.52 | oneand0 | cjen129: have you tried 'apt-cache search vnc' .. check xtightvncviewer |
| 04:42.40 | cjen129 | yes i did try that and it didn't return that |
| 04:42.43 | cjen129 | it only returned libvncserver0 |
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| 04:43.08 | cjen129 | "Unable to locate package xtightvncviewer" |
| 04:43.42 | oneand0 | hmm ... odd... maybe its in contrib or something... .. of course i do run testing/unstable ... |
| 04:43.57 | cjen129 | i have contrib and nonfree |
| 04:44.12 | oneand0 | cjen129: hmm, now im confused too :) |
| 04:44.19 | cjen129 | oh wait |
| 04:44.24 | cjen129 | let me apt-get update lol |
| 04:44.41 | oneand0 | cjen129: lol... if on gnome.. try vinagre |
| 04:44.58 | cjen129 | i'm on kde |
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| 04:45.59 | amicuscuriae | is there a way to disable Bash history completely even when su? |
| 04:46.04 | amicuscuriae | also as a regular user |
| 04:46.06 | Shadur | arghs. Latest nvidia-kernel-dkms package can't actually build the module |
| 04:46.07 | oneand0 | cjen129: krdc ... i believe, not sure |
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| 04:46.11 | amicuscuriae | or limit it to 5 commands only? |
| 04:46.20 | amicuscuriae | 5 previous commands and nothing else is logged |
| 04:46.23 | cjen129 | oneand0, so would the person on the other end install tightvncserver |
| 04:46.44 | oneand0 | cjen129: yes.. unsure if it connects to others (maybe a port change...) |
| 04:46.56 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: check rbash |
| 04:47.18 | cjen129 | what do you mean to others? |
| 04:47.43 | cjen129 | i installed xtightvncviewer and i get a dialog box i assume i type an ip address into |
| 04:47.50 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, Ok thanks |
| 04:47.56 | oneand0 | cjen129: I think i might have connected to other vnc servers.. but tightvnc is most ideal for it |
| 04:48.22 | cjen129 | so my friend installed tightvncserver and gives me their public ip? |
| 04:49.00 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, what does rbash do? |
| 04:49.01 | oneand0 | cjen129: yes ... take into account firewalls along the way/routers etc... but in general yes |
| 04:49.04 | amicuscuriae | i just type it in |
| 04:49.05 | amicuscuriae | lol |
| 04:49.38 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: ... restricted bash... u allocate the user to it.. read the manual/docs.. its quite straight forward |
| 04:50.32 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: on re-reading your requirement.. it might be over kill for your needs sorry ;) |
| 04:51.44 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, lol wtf man? |
| 04:52.21 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: post lunch, 1/2 way through the work day & work week is my only excuse |
| 04:52.38 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, I would like to delete bash history or just disable it completely |
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| 04:54.49 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: unset HISTFILE .. man bash for more |
| 04:55.33 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, HISTFILESIZE=0 |
| 04:55.39 | amicuscuriae | in .profile |
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| 04:57.43 | oneand0 | i think that might just truncate size after logout... or exit... will have to read man pages myself to know |
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| 05:01.40 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, Would it be intelligent to DISABLE .BASH_HISTORY - INCLUDING CURRENT SESSION'S KEYSTROKES |
| 05:02.00 | nkuttler | it would be smart not to use the caps lock key |
| 05:02.04 | amicuscuriae | even for su |
| 05:02.15 | amicuscuriae | nkuttler, sorry I copied it from somewhre it was in caps there |
| 05:03.42 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: ... that seems overkill to me .. actually unsure myself on how to go about that in an easy simple to maintain way... |
| 05:03.47 | nkuttler | amicuscuriae: well... some programs take passwords etc on the command line, you don't want that in your history |
| 05:04.03 | nkuttler | amicuscuriae: but it's a poor practice to pass passwords like that anyway |
| 05:04.21 | nkuttler | i keep my history very short, but that's just because i'm paranoid |
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| 05:19.43 | amicuscuriae | nkuttler, what do you mean? |
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| 05:20.07 | legobane | Does anyone here use zfs for linux? |
| 05:20.13 | legobane | on their debian box obvi =) |
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| 05:21.17 | amicuscuriae | No |
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| 05:22.06 | cjen129 | oneand0, didn't work unfortunately. i think it must be a router issue |
| 05:23.27 | oneand0 | cjen129: sorry to hear that.. but yes, thats in most cases when it does not work :( |
| 05:24.07 | cjen129 | how does teamviewer avoid all the sharing ip/port configuration things? |
| 05:24.37 | chozha | jmcnaught: there ? |
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| 05:25.58 | oneand0 | cjen129: afaik, i think they use a third point of connection to initiate the connection .. that would be the normal procedure in these cases |
| 05:26.11 | cjen129 | ah ok |
| 05:26.15 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, What does current session keystroke mean? |
| 05:26.20 | amicuscuriae | would I be able to even see what I type? |
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| 05:26.56 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: unsure myself .. it does sound 'scary' :D |
| 05:27.23 | amicuscuriae | lol |
| 05:28.05 | amicuscuriae | hehe |
| 05:28.05 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, but I would do it I am the legion |
| 05:28.05 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, http://mewbies.com/how_to_disable_bash_history_or_limit_tutorial.html#05 |
| 05:28.05 | amicuscuriae | nice tutorial if you wana try anything |
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| 05:28.28 | amicuscuriae | oh thanks |
| 05:28.40 | oneand0 | amicuscuriae: thanks... will have a look later |
| 05:28.40 | amicuscuriae | a new debian user is being kicked out from here, nice nice! |
| 05:29.55 | amicuscuriae | oneand0, yep man :) I think we all should unite and do it the right way |
| 05:29.56 | amicuscuriae | lol |
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| 05:38.25 | zhxk | hello, how to install rcconf? i tried apt-get install rcconf, recieved "E: Unable to locate package rcconf |
| 05:38.25 | zhxk | " |
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| 05:55.59 | shay_shay | legobane: I use btrfs |
| 05:56.24 | shay_shay | why would you want to use zfs when we have btrfs and it's native? |
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| 05:57.07 | shay_shay | btrfs is zfs 2.0 |
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| 05:58.43 | shay_shay | and don't let the nay sayers nay say you, its plenty stable. opensuse uses it as a default filesystem on production servers already |
| 05:59.02 | shay_shay | Facebook uses it heavily |
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| 05:59.21 | legobane | Yea I was under the impression it was still unstable. |
| 06:00.30 | shay_shay | I've been using it since wheezy and no failures ... I use it for raid 10 on my nas and I use it without raid on my desktop and my laptop |
| 06:00.44 | shay_shay | all those mentions of it being unstable are out of date |
| 06:01.02 | trwww | Hello, I have a debian server that is constantly getting stuff like 'select .. @discard from information_schema...' in mysql for user 'debian-sys-maint'. I found something via google that said this was from the mysql var log-queries-not-using-indexes, but `show variables like ...' for that var says its off. Any idea whats doing this? I'd like to turn it off. |
| 06:01.32 | ryouma | shay_shay: do you use it for everything? |
| 06:01.37 | shay_shay | yep |
| 06:02.03 | shay_shay | well my raspberry pi is using ext4 |
| 06:02.11 | shay_shay | I think... |
| 06:02.24 | legobane | how does drive pooling work? Can you use different capacity drives? |
| 06:02.40 | legobane | does it allow ssd caching? |
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| 06:05.59 | shay_shay | different capacity drives work better than they do on zfs ... but i couldnt explain off the top of my head... although people in #btrfs certainly can. ssd caching is done via bcache. there's an explanation somewhere on the web why zfs needed l2arc buil in but on Linux it was handled by bcache already and there is no advantage to having it built in |
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| 06:06.52 | legobane | interesting... I guess ill go with btrfs then |
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| 06:08.44 | shay_shay | I think the wikipedia article on bcache sums up why individual filesystem on Linux don't need to have caching function built in |
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| 07:03.32 | jubalh | hi, when building a debian package i get a warning for the manpage: manpage-has-errors-from-man warning [p 1, 9.0i]: cannot adjust line |
| 07:03.46 | jubalh | can somebody explain me what this means/ where to look for the error? |
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| 07:07.41 | jelly | dpkg, tell jubalh about lintian |
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| 07:17.07 | VanessaE | hi folks. just installed a new server (deb 8.1), and I'm having a problem: smem only shows the header, but no processes. googling leads me to something called "smaps" which this server does not appear to have, but nothing that gives me any idea how to fix it. |
| 07:17.13 | VanessaE | what do I do now? |
| 07:18.08 | VanessaE | basically, this: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=757977 |
| 07:18.10 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/757977 in smem (closed): «smem only write header and nothing else»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-08-12; last modified: 2014-12-19. |
| 07:18.20 | VanessaE | (but note the date...this ain't 2014) |
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| 07:21.10 | jubalh | jelly: but i think what i just posted is the output of that |
| 07:21.30 | jubalh | jelly: W: nudoku: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/man1/nudoku.1.gz 54: warning [p 1, 9.0i]: cannot adjust line |
| 07:21.46 | jubalh | jelly: but i dont see where i should look for the error |
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| 07:22.03 | jelly | jubalh: correct, that's the output of lintian |
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| 07:22.49 | jelly | jubalh: the generated man page source code, dunno where else you'd look |
| 07:23.18 | jubalh | jelly: i suppose 54 is the line in the manpage that he has problems with, but what does the p1, 9.0i mean |
| 07:23.27 | jelly | jubalh: no idea |
| 07:24.06 | jubalh | jelly: so this is what my question was about :) |
| 07:24.18 | jelly | jubalh: zless debian/tmp/usr/share/man/man1/nudoku.1.gz and figure out what's wrong with it |
| 07:24.18 | jubalh | because i got this error message to start with, but didnt know how to read it |
| 07:24.33 | jubalh | i have the sourcecode of the man already |
| 07:24.36 | jelly | or wherever the generated page is built |
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| 07:25.13 | jubalh | some problem here i guess: https://github.com/jubalh/nudoku/blob/master/man/nudoku.1#L54 |
| 07:25.18 | jubalh | but i dont see what |
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| 07:26.37 | jelly | jubalh: well, the line is long but cannot be wrapped or "adjusted" whatever that means |
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| 07:27.02 | jubalh | jelly: well, i dont see what to do about that. if its a long example sting its a long example string |
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| 07:29.23 | jelly | jubalh: that's why it's just a warning, I guess |
| 07:29.28 | jubalh | ok |
| 07:29.30 | jubalh | thanks |
| 07:29.37 | jelly | !mentors |
| 07:29.37 | dpkg | rumour has it, mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 07:29.54 | jelly | ^^ people in there may be more clueful about lintian |
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| 07:33.02 | jubalh | thanks jelly |
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| 07:38.57 | telliev | ;] |
| 07:39.38 | SPF | !ask |
| 07:39.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 07:40.45 | VanessaE | I'll repeat my question: |
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| 07:41.19 | VanessaE | I just installed a new server (deb 8.1), and I'm having a problem: smem only shows the header, but no processes similar to bug #757977. googling leads me to something called "smaps" which this server does not appear to have, but nothing that gives me any idea how to fix it. What do I do now? |
| 07:41.20 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/757977 in smem (closed): «smem only write header and nothing else»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-08-12; last modified: 2014-12-19. |
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| 07:42.39 | jelly | VanessaE: you don't have ls -l /proc/$$/smaps for example? What does "uname -a" say? |
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| 07:43.10 | telliev | ok, i want to share my net from my laptop (which uses wlan0 to connect to internet) to my other computer through eth0. i set up dhcpd and /etc/network/interfaces, and it starts without errors but when i connect the cable, the internet on my laptop dissapears and it changes the connection to eth0 |
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| 07:43.53 | VanessaE | jelly: correct. kernel is 3.14.32 |
| 07:44.22 | jelly | VanessaE: that's not a debian kernel |
| 07:44.30 | VanessaE | it's the one that came with the install |
| 07:44.34 | VanessaE | I didn't change it |
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| 07:44.50 | jelly | VanessaE: that's not a kernel you'd get from an official debian installer image |
| 07:44.51 | VanessaE | (this is an OVH "So You Start" server) |
| 07:45.14 | jelly | VanessaE: ask OVH, or use the kernel from the distro |
| 07:45.19 | VanessaE | ok. |
| 07:45.26 | VanessaE | I'll just switch to the distro kernel. |
| 07:45.44 | VanessaE | I've never been particularly clear on what the benefit is of running the host's provided kernel :) |
| 07:46.02 | jelly | what does uname -a say? |
| 07:46.08 | VanessaE | Linux daconcepts 3.14.32-xxxx-grs-ipv6-64 #1 SMP Tue Jun 30 18:50:21 CEST 2015 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 07:47.01 | jelly | well, it has grsecurity patch for one thing |
| 07:47.17 | VanessaE | I had a feeling that's what the grs meant. |
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| 07:48.41 | jelly | I thought grsec only restricted access to /proc, perhaps it's a configurable setting or a build time option |
| 07:49.16 | jelly | in any case, you can use the distro kernel if this functionality is important to you |
| 07:49.27 | VanessaE | ok. |
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| 08:01.00 | VanessaE | waits for it to reboot... |
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| 08:02.02 | VanessaE | Linux daconcepts 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3 (2015-08-04) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 08:02.06 | VanessaE | jelly ^^^^ better? |
| 08:02.23 | VanessaE | must be -- smem works again. |
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| 08:05.05 | VanessaE | thanks again for the help. |
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| 08:25.30 | no_gravity | Is there a way to search history by regex? |
| 08:25.39 | no_gravity | like CTRL+r but with regex search |
| 08:25.55 | no_gravity | or come other way to find a command that contains several strings |
| 08:26.05 | no_gravity | like "cd.*projects" |
| 08:26.55 | bezaban | no_gravity: history | grep -e regexp |
| 08:27.08 | no_gravity | yeah, but then i have top copy and paste the command to execute it |
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| 08:27.27 | bezaban | you want to execute the matching commands? |
| 08:27.36 | no_gravity | i want what CTRL+R does |
| 08:27.55 | no_gravity | toggle through matching commands and when i have the right one execute it via return. |
| 08:27.56 | bezaban | oh right, thought you were in some editor. Must admit I don't use that |
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| 09:02.04 | SaLeach77 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:03.33 | amicuscuriae | hi |
| 09:03.59 | jelly | SaLeach77: avoid doing that in public channels |
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| 09:10.36 | dtdh | if a disk in a raid0 is set as faulty (without it actually being faulty), is it possible to re-assamble without loosing data? :) |
| 09:11.52 | jelly | dtdh: maybe, best ask in #linux-raid |
| 09:12.27 | dtdh | jelly: ok :) |
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| 09:38.45 | ploopkazoo | any idea which package contains man? |
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| 09:40.13 | jeddi | ploopkazoo: /var/lib/dpkg/info/man-db.list:/usr/bin/man |
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| 09:41.33 | g00se | ploopkazoo: man-db |
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| 09:41.41 | ploopkazoo | jeddi: nothing matching /var/lib/dpkg/info/man* exists on my fs |
| 09:42.01 | ploopkazoo | man-db can't be located |
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| 09:42.45 | g00se | ,v man-db |
| 09:42.46 | judd | Package: man-db on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.5.7-8; wheezy: 2.6.2-1; jessie: 2.7.0.2-5; stretch: 2.7.3-1; sid: 2.7.3-1 |
| 09:43.39 | ploopkazoo | oh, apparently you need to run apt-get update once to have any packages at all on this particular packaging of debian :| |
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| 10:10.13 | jeddi | ploopkazoo: you need to run apt-get update on *every* debian version over the last twenty years. but during installation this is run for you. worst case you should have seen a package unavailable if you hadn't run apt-get for a long time. |
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| 10:11.05 | ploopkazoo | jeddi: I installed an image on a small raspi-like device, didn't go through the normal curses desktop installer |
| 10:11.09 | ploopkazoo | so that explains it |
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| 10:12.27 | jeddi | ploopkazoo: ah, raspbian? that should still have it primed ... but, yeah, apt-get update is a bit of muscle memory once you've been debianing for a while :) |
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| 10:16.27 | ploopkazoo | jeddi: not raspbian, the device was a bbb. just an image of a fresh install of debian arm as far as I can tell, plus motd or something similar to tell you the default password when connecting over ssh |
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| 10:45.37 | morphyeys | Hello guys, how to create a shortcut for /home/work/Downloads/Sublime Text 2/sublime_text |
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| 11:00.33 | Filystyn | need to add firmware-linux-nonfree |
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| 11:00.42 | Filystyn | but it's not in repository dfq? |
| 11:01.16 | Filystyn | ANYONE HERE ? |
| 11:01.28 | towo^work | no |
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| 11:01.53 | towo^work | Filystyn, you need contrib and non-free for your sources |
| 11:02.26 | Filystyn | what doe sit mean? |
| 11:02.39 | Filystyn | i can't use it? |
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| 11:03.03 | towo^work | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free |
| 11:03.15 | towo^work | Filystyn, read the docu |
| 11:03.38 | Filystyn | read what |
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| 11:04.52 | Filystyn | so it's only for chosen ones. |
| 11:05.32 | Filystyn | <mad> |
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| 11:05.38 | Filystyn | i just want to install this |
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| 11:07.13 | darxmurf | hum I just plugged my CD-BURNER sata cable but it's not detected, how can I force the BUS scann ? |
| 11:07.48 | darxmurf | I tried echo "- - -" > /sys/class/scsi_host/host<n>/scan |
| 11:07.59 | darxmurf | but still not detected |
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| 11:11.05 | marinintim | hi |
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| 11:17.08 | mike_88_ | !xen |
| 11:17.09 | dpkg | Xen is an open source virtual machine monitor / hypervisor, allowing several guest operating systems to execute concurrently on the same system. Provides paravirtualization (requiring guest OSs to be modified/ported) and hardware-assisted virtualization (for running guests unmodified). For detailed help, see http://wiki.debian.org/Xen . #debian-xen on irc.oftc.net. See also <virtualization>. |
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| 11:25.09 | Falc | Hello, I have a question about the .ssh/known_hosts file. Is it normal that if I set it to hashed entries that I seem to get two lines per server, when I only get one line per server without hashing? |
| 11:25.21 | JoelJo | Hi, I have tried then removed and sometime reinstalled some desktop environments, now that I have find the right one for me, kde, I get sometimes errors from dolphin, trashcan etc. Not fatal errors but malfunctions that sometimes I resolve using the gnome file manager installed as well in my debian jessie. what do you advise to do? there is some program that find and fix such problems? Should I delete and reinstall Kde? |
| 11:25.45 | jelly | dpkg, tell Filystyn about non-free sources |
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| 11:26.43 | jelly | Falc: yes, ssh client remembers the host key for IP address and host name separately I think |
| 11:27.07 | Filystyn | i seee thank you jelly |
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| 11:29.09 | Falc | jelly: I think I sort of get it... the unhashed version can afford to have a dual hostname/IP key as lookup since it's all in cleartext, but the hashed version can't so seperates them into separate lines |
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| 11:30.19 | treehaqr | i'm losing 3d acceleration after waking up from sleep on my asus zenbook (intel HD 5300). Does anyone have any pointer how to address this? |
| 11:30.45 | Filystyn | i have succesfully installed the package |
| 11:30.51 | Filystyn | <horey> |
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| 11:33.36 | oxachloren | !i965-va-driver |
| 11:33.39 | treehaqr | it always enters software rendering mode after waking up from sleep |
| 11:33.50 | oxachloren | dpkg i965-va-driver |
| 11:33.50 | dpkg | bugger all, i dunno, oxachloren |
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| 11:35.01 | oxachloren | dpkg sysstat |
| 11:35.01 | dpkg | oxachloren: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
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| 11:35.19 | oxachloren | Meh. |
| 11:35.49 | treehaqr | hee |
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| 11:37.26 | treehaqr | hm... i'm seeing GPU hang in dmesg |
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| 11:38.59 | treehaqr | [37824.489264] [drm] stuck on render ring |
| 11:38.59 | treehaqr | [37824.491132] [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 0:0x00dfffff, in Xorg [875], reason: Ring hung, action: reset |
| 11:39.02 | treehaqr | [37826.488665] [drm] Enabling RC6 states: RC6 on, RC6p off, RC6pp off |
| 11:39.04 | treehaqr | [37831.486809] [drm] stuck on render ring |
| 11:39.07 | treehaqr | [37831.488606] [drm] GPU HANG: ecode 0:0x00dfffff, in Xorg [875], reason: Ring hung, action: reset |
| 11:39.10 | treehaqr | [37831.488752] [drm:i915_context_is_banned] *ERROR* gpu hanging too fast, banning! |
| 11:39.13 | treehaqr | [37833.486204] [drm] Enabling RC6 states: RC6 on, RC6p off, RC6pp off |
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| 11:39.28 | jelly | dpkg, tell treehaqr about paste |
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| 11:40.47 | hdd2 | I managed to boot up into gparted with a live CD. i presented with the sda1 of 38GB~ and 450GB~ of unallocated space. how do i enlarge the size of sda1 ? it seems i can only shrink sda1 from the options presented on gparted? |
| 11:41.07 | jelly | treehaqr: you can talk now again. Use http://paste.debian.net/ for anything more than two line |
| 11:41.19 | treehaqr | thank you |
| 11:41.20 | treehaqr | sorry about that |
| 11:41.31 | fifnir | Hey guys, I just finished a Debian (8.0) installation and I can't get past GDM: Once the password is accepted, the screen goes black, we see a little "graphical glitch" line and then the GDM login screen comes back up. Ctrl Alt F2 completely crushes the system, showing again something that looks like a graphical glitch. |
| 11:41.40 | oxachloren | Is unnalocated space located before sda1? |
| 11:41.46 | oxachloren | Or after? |
| 11:42.26 | fifnir | We tried putting "text" instead of "quiet" in the boot commands, but that made zero change, it loaded gdm like before |
| 11:42.37 | jelly | !nodm |
| 11:42.37 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 11:43.00 | hdd2 | oxachloren: im not sure how i would know the answer to that. i can say the unallocated space is presented on the picture on the right hand side if that helps |
| 11:43.01 | jelly | hmm, no boot option in there |
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| 11:44.11 | hdd2 | this is what it look slike form the console - http://paste.ee/p/jDeVN |
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| 11:44.13 | oxachloren | hdd2: Are you sure sda1 is not in use? Do you have swap partition? |
| 11:44.19 | oxachloren | Okay, wait a moment. |
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| 11:44.34 | hdd2 | oxachloren: thanks. the paste will answer more than i can tell you :-) |
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| 11:46.36 | hdd2 | oxachloren: http://picpaste.com/Capture-v7zd9Fyk.JPG |
| 11:47.31 | oxachloren | I had the same problem once. |
| 11:47.48 | oxachloren | It won't let you extend because there is another partition. |
| 11:47.50 | oxachloren | After yours. |
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| 11:48.15 | oxachloren | I can safely assume that you can delete swap partition, then make a new one. |
| 11:48.19 | Filystyn | ok guys i finally get my radeon working properly probably |
| 11:48.30 | oxachloren | After you resize your parition. |
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| 11:48.49 | hdd2 | oxachloren: To give you a little history, this is a vmware disk thin provisioned at 40GB i then increased this to 500GB |
| 11:48.50 | oxachloren | Just leave unallocated space for swap partition and create it again. |
| 11:49.32 | hdd2 | oxachloren:sorry what order do i do things in ? |
| 11:50.01 | oxachloren | You can just remove swap parition. You will have your boot parition and unallocated space. |
| 11:50.22 | hdd2 | ok |
| 11:50.25 | oxachloren | You will be able to "prolong" (read: resize) your parition because you have removed "obstacle" (swap). |
| 11:50.42 | oxachloren | Do your resizing, but leave some space for swap partition. |
| 11:51.06 | hdd2 | well ive removed the swap |
| 11:51.12 | hdd2 | it now says unallocated |
| 11:51.20 | hdd2 | and applyied it |
| 11:51.37 | hdd2 | but i get the same result when trying to resize sda1 |
| 11:51.38 | JoelJo | Hi, I have tried then removed and sometime reinstalled some desktop environments, now that I have find the right one for me, kde, I get sometimes errors from dolphin, trashcan etc. Not fatal errors but malfunctions that sometimes I resolve using the gnome file manager installed as well in my debian jessie. what do you advise to do? there is some program that find and fix such problems? Should I delete and reinstall Kde? |
| 11:51.50 | oxachloren | You can only shrink it? |
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| 11:52.25 | hdd2 | http://picpaste.com/Capture2-keurvHAJ.JPG |
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| 11:52.46 | mtn | JoelJo, try running it with a new user. see if a clean user setup runs any different |
| 11:52.48 | oxachloren | No, you need to remove extended parition. |
| 11:52.53 | Filystyn | the thing IS |
| 11:52.54 | oxachloren | Which was created for your swap parition. |
| 11:53.01 | Filystyn | i would like to change the user interface |
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| 11:53.07 | hdd2 | right so delete extended too |
| 11:53.16 | oxachloren | Yes, but not your sda1 of course. |
| 11:53.17 | Filystyn | because after making my drivers work properly |
| 11:53.19 | Filystyn | it changed |
| 11:53.27 | Filystyn | and i do not like all the looks |
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| 11:54.38 | hdd2 | ok so ive removed swap and extended and now 'growing' sda1 to 500GB |
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| 11:54.46 | JoelJo | mtn, to insert a new user how to do? |
| 11:55.00 | oxachloren | Don't just "grow" it to 500 GB. |
| 11:55.07 | oxachloren | Leave some space for swap. Well, if you need it. |
| 11:55.14 | mtn | JoelJo, system settings, users |
| 11:55.33 | hdd2 | oxachloren: already have... Can i just shrink it a little afterwards? |
| 11:55.37 | mtn | JoelJo, system settings is searchable, too |
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| 11:56.00 | Filystyn | guys HOW do i change the UI in debian |
| 11:56.14 | hdd2 | oxachloren: http://picpaste.com/Capture3-THXlyQQE.JPG |
| 11:56.20 | oxachloren | Yes, you can. If you don't need swap, just leave it as it is. If you need swap partition, leave 1.65 GB (that's how much you had) for swap partition. |
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| 11:56.36 | hdd2 | what is the swap for ? |
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| 11:56.49 | hdd2 | sorry if thats a long awnser i can google it |
| 11:56.58 | oxachloren | How much RAM do you have? |
| 11:57.04 | hdd2 | 16GB |
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| 11:57.13 | oxachloren | Well you don't really need swap. |
| 11:57.21 | JoelJo | mtn, i will look for it thanks |
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| 11:57.25 | mtn | Filystyn, change the ui how? which de are you using? |
| 11:57.30 | hdd2 | i can have up to 256GB of RAM |
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| 11:57.42 | oxachloren | That's more than enough. |
| 11:58.00 | hdd2 | when will swap be required at say 4GB? |
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| 11:58.32 | jelly | Filystyn: search for something like themes and appearance settings in your Desktop Environment's control panel |
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| 11:59.31 | oxachloren | Yes, if you have 4 GB of RAM and you want to run modern desktop environment, it's most likely that you'll benefit from swap. |
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| 11:59.43 | oxachloren | You can use swapfiles too. |
| 11:59.49 | oxachloren | But that's out of scope of this channel isn't it. |
| 12:00.46 | hdd2 | ok thanks. |
| 12:01.12 | oxachloren | ArchLinux has a great article about swap - if you are interested. |
| 12:01.23 | oxachloren | Wiki. |
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| 12:02.08 | hdd2 | oxachloren: thanks ill check it out |
| 12:02.15 | hdd2 | oxachloren:thanks for your help |
| 12:02.37 | Filystyn | im using GNOME |
| 12:02.51 | Filystyn | and some things need to get changed |
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| 12:03.04 | Filystyn | but the new look afte rdrivers finaly are on look nicer |
| 12:03.06 | Filystyn | <3 |
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| 12:08.21 | Filystyn | i just can't change the gui demito! |
| 12:08.34 | Filystyn | the UI*** |
| 12:08.45 | Filystyn | i need to make some repairing there |
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| 12:10.09 | zhxk | hello how to solve this problem: http://pastebin.com/f5VUJerr |
| 12:10.09 | jelly | Filystyn: I have no idea, somewhere in the panel. Click on menus and icons, try things out |
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| 12:11.11 | jelly | zhxk: people may be more willing to click on your link if you tell us a short description, or at least what component you're having problems with |
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| 12:14.09 | zhxk | i want install nfs server on an ovz, i think i should install nfs-user-server, however, error occurs: http://pastebin.com/f5VUJerr |
| 12:15.09 | oxachloren | I'm not sure but you sure have tried apt-get update? |
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| 12:16.04 | zhxk | i've run this already: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -y && apt-get dist-upgrade -y |
| 12:16.45 | themill | running upgrade or dist-upgrade isn't going to make a non-existent package suddenly appear |
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| 12:18.03 | oxachloren | info nfs-user-server |
| 12:18.04 | zhxk | help me solve this problem, thank your! |
| 12:18.05 | jelly | ,v nfs-user-server |
| 12:18.06 | judd | No package named 'nfs-user-server' was found in amd64. |
| 12:18.20 | jelly | zhxk: there is no package with that name in any supported Debian release |
| 12:18.22 | oxachloren | There is no package named "nfs-user-server" in packages.debian.org either. |
| 12:18.38 | jelly | zhxk: did you just invent the name and hope it worked? |
| 12:19.38 | zhxk | nope, i want instal a nfs server on an openvz |
| 12:19.53 | Filystyn | jelly i ask because im fighting here hard from like 15 min |
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| 12:20.11 | zhxk | http://wiki.openvz.org/NFS_server_inside_container |
| 12:20.19 | oxachloren | nfs common |
| 12:20.26 | oxachloren | apt-get install nfs-kernel-server nfs-common |
| 12:20.34 | oxachloren | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:20.35 | jelly | Filystyn: fighting? |
| 12:20.53 | Filystyn | yes fighting |
| 12:20.53 | zhxk | whats info? |
| 12:21.10 | jelly | oxachloren: that requires assistance from the kernel, which is probably not available in a cheap containerized VPS |
| 12:21.23 | oxachloren | This is true. |
| 12:22.09 | jelly | zhxk: there is no userspace-based nfs server in Debian, there hasn't been one in like a decade or more |
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| 12:23.33 | zhxk | jelly, so how to add nfs server to my openvz? |
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| 12:26.19 | jelly | zhxk: you don't |
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| 12:27.29 | jelly | zhxk: get a VM with proper virtualization, or waste time figuring out if unfs3 still builds and works with recent environments |
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| 12:29.05 | jelly | amazingly it seems unfs3 is not dead yet |
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| 12:46.34 | paxcoder | Can't wake up my pc by pressing the power button like usual. Why could that be, and can my work still be saved? |
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| 12:47.26 | paxcoder | (it automatically entered power saving mode after some time of inactivity) |
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| 12:47.42 | jeddi | paxcoder: define 'work' |
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| 12:48.24 | paxcoder | jeddi: the session data |
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| 12:49.31 | jeddi | can you ssh to the box from another machine? |
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| 12:49.41 | jeddi | by session data do you mean windows state? |
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| 12:50.03 | jeddi | or things like libreoffice writer documents that you didn't save. |
| 12:50.42 | paxcoder | jeddi: things that won't be recoverable if turned off |
| 12:50.49 | paxcoder | i'll try to see if i can ssh |
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| 12:51.05 | paxcoder | but if that works, i'm not sure what power saving mode even does though |
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| 12:51.21 | oxachloren | It's possible that your screen is off, but machine has woken up. |
| 12:51.33 | jelly | paxcoder: low battery, maybe, and not plugged to AC? |
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| 12:52.22 | paxcoder | jelly: it's a desktop pc |
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| 12:53.05 | paxcoder | oxachloren: checked the monitor |
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| 12:54.18 | paxcoder | the router shows the pc as inactive, so i guess it's... saving power |
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| 12:55.09 | jeddi | paxcoder: yeah .. this is the kind of thing i test intensively before relying on it .. and i've got a relatively well supported high-end ssd-only laptop. still worries me. |
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| 12:57.18 | paxcoder | jeddi: i've never had a problem like this that i can remember |
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| 12:58.13 | paxcoder | that is to say, i've been "using" this feature a lot |
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| 12:58.53 | ois | i put testing and unstable in my sources.list and did dist-upgrade; are my packages now fully upgraded to unstable? or are they on testing? |
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| 12:59.59 | jeddi | ois: /etc/debian_version ? |
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| 13:00.06 | paxcoder | ois: i think you're unstable now, unless you've custom pinned the packages |
| 13:00.18 | ois | paxcoder: stretch/sid |
| 13:00.21 | paxcoder | *the package manager |
| 13:00.31 | jeddi | ois: i agree with paxcoder .. you're likely on unstable. testing and experimental take a bit of effort. |
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| 13:01.32 | ois | my sources.list just contains these lines: https://paste.debian.net/311988/ does it look fine? |
| 13:01.35 | paxcoder | jeddi: but why does it say stretch then? surely any testing-only packages would be removed by the update? |
| 13:01.36 | JoelJo | to add a new user: #adduser newuser That's it or it needs more commands/configuration? |
| 13:02.02 | paxcoder | ois: pinning is done in /etc/apt/preferences |
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| 13:02.23 | jelly | JoelJo: that's it, but adduser will ask you some questions |
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| 13:02.26 | ois | paxcoder: i don't have such a file |
| 13:02.43 | JoelJo | jelly, thanks |
| 13:02.54 | ois | i feel my sources.list may be lacking repositories? i don't know |
| 13:03.05 | paxcoder | ois: then i'd bet you're on unstable, despite not knowing why it says stretch/sid and not just sid. |
| 13:03.28 | ois | should i remove testing and testing/updates from my sources.list? and just leave the one line deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free ? |
| 13:03.30 | paxcoder | ois: no, the only problem there are non-free sources ;) |
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| 13:03.50 | jeddi | ois: repos look fine. |
| 13:03.50 | paxcoder | ois: so you *want* to run unstable? |
| 13:03.58 | jeddi | ois: is there some package / version of some package that you seek? |
| 13:04.08 | jelly | dpkg, tell ois about tum |
| 13:04.12 | jelly | dpkg, tell ois about debian-next |
| 13:04.19 | themill | paxcoder: /etc/debian_version is just a file in a package. That package isn't going to have different versions in testing and unstable |
| 13:04.21 | anddam | aaand solved by searching the web |
| 13:04.23 | ois | jeddi: paxcoder: yes i'm trying to solve that issue: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798915 |
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| 13:04.24 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/798915 in sonnet (open): «[kate] Spell checking does not work»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-14; last modified: 2015-09-14. |
| 13:04.31 | wilfrid | clear |
| 13:04.39 | ois | jeddi: but i don't know which package they're referring to |
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| 13:04.42 | anddam | the support level on this channel is outstanding, I get the answer even before asking |
| 13:04.42 | wilfrid | salut tout le monde |
| 13:04.50 | wilfrid | désolé pour le "clear" ;-) |
| 13:04.51 | jeddi | spell checking in kate. people do that? |
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| 13:05.03 | ois | jeddi: it's for a latex document |
| 13:05.08 | jeddi | ois: i see. |
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| 13:05.12 | themill | anddam: :) |
| 13:05.32 | jelly | paxcoder: I don't see there's anything you can do, except maybe trying Wake-on-LAN |
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| 13:05.37 | jeddi | ois: last comment on that bug tracker from 2015-09-14 is that it'll be present in testing in a couple of days. i'd stick with that. |
| 13:05.46 | ois | jeddi: do you understand which package they're referring to by "sonnet"? and how i could check the version/upgrade it? |
| 13:06.02 | jeddi | unstable branch is typically fairly stable, but once you go down that path, it's challenging to come back to the relative safety of 'testing' |
| 13:06.17 | paxcoder | jelly: i probably have that turned off. if it were on, the router see the pc as active, right? |
| 13:06.28 | themill | ois: installing the "aspell" package sounds like it would be enough |
| 13:06.28 | jelly | <jeddi> unstable branch is typically fairly stable # except when it's not |
| 13:06.29 | paxcoder | themill: i do not comprehend |
| 13:06.30 | ois | jeddi: i don't mind :) |
| 13:06.31 | ois | jeddi: my deadline is before then :D |
| 13:06.33 | jeddi | ois: yup - sonnet-plugins (and others) are qt specific libraries for spell check. |
| 13:06.53 | jeddi | jelly: entirely agree - spent most of the past two decades on unstable .. starting to feel happier about testing these days as i enter my twilight years :) |
| 13:06.58 | anddam | themill: namely I couldn't find libav package, tracker.debian.org said it had been removed, but a quick search on PDO for packages providing files ending in "avconv" showed me that I really want to install libav-tools |
| 13:07.07 | paxcoder | ois: with pinning, you could fetch only selected packages from unstable, while running testing |
| 13:07.16 | jeddi | ois: then comment out your testing line and stick with unstable only. apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade ... |
| 13:07.19 | ois | paxcoder: jeddi: https://paste.debian.net/311989/ |
| 13:07.22 | jeddi | ois: and then you're running latest unstable. |
| 13:07.28 | themill | anddam: it might be that you want the ffmpeg package if you are using stretch or sid |
| 13:07.35 | jeddi | ois: BUT .. there are risks there - unstable may not work. hence the name. :) |
| 13:07.44 | ois | jeddi: is this package currently from testing or unstable? i can upgrade just this one? |
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| 13:08.12 | jeddi | ois: this is where you need to look at the bug report and then run things like 'apt-cache -t testing show {packagename}' |
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| 13:08.36 | jeddi | change 'testing' to other branch names as appropriate. (there may be better wyas of doing this - i usually use this approach for experimental branch packages) |
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| 13:09.04 | jeddi | ois: as paxcoder suggests, pinning may be a better /f aster / less troublesome approach to solve this particular problem. |
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| 13:09.32 | jeddi | or just download the package directly from your local repository (using wget or a web interface) and then dpkg --install it |
| 13:10.04 | smartass | ois: an alternative is to create a chroot and run the needed command with schroot |
| 13:10.38 | jeddi | ois: so, maybe hop onto packages.debian.org, loo at the sonnet* packages, and d/l the ones that you currently have installed (the nwe versions of same) then dpkg --install {filename.deb} ... and then see if your problem is solved. |
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| 13:11.02 | ois | jeddi: smartass: paxcoder: but i don't understand: here it shows sonnet is 5.14 https://packages.debian.org/sid/sonnet-plugins; and apt-cache show also displays 5.14: https://paste.debian.net/311989/ so looks like i already have the right version? |
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| 13:12.35 | ois | hm wait, sonnet-plugins isn't even installed?? |
| 13:12.53 | paxcoder | jelly: WOL (I think) made the cursor appear. It's unmovable though. I'll try non-USB input devices. |
| 13:12.58 | anddam | themill: jessie, still |
| 13:13.18 | anddam | themill: I read the note about migrating (back) to ffmpeg |
| 13:13.30 | themill | anddam: ah, yes. Then libav-tools is what you're looking for |
| 13:13.47 | ois | ok it works now :) thanks |
| 13:14.14 | paxcoder | i'll try sshing now |
| 13:14.35 | paxcoder | nope |
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| 13:15.35 | jelly | paxcoder: Alt-Sysrq-r then bashing the keyboard? |
| 13:15.37 | ois | all dictionaries shows errors in english when there are none :( they underline words which are fine such as "house"; well whatever i'll spellcheck it myself |
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| 13:16.46 | paxcoder | jelly: what does that do? sysrq = super? but anyway, it was a kernel panic |
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| 13:17.11 | paxcoder | or is now anyway |
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| 13:17.38 | jelly | paxcoder: it resets the keyboard from Raw to Cooked mode |
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| 13:18.02 | jelly | paxcoder: sysrq is usually on PtrSc / SysRq key |
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| 13:20.06 | paxcoder | *shrugs* guess it's time to ck the fs |
| 13:20.22 | paxcoder | thanks for the suggestions, everyone |
| 13:20.58 | jelly | another problem solved |
| 13:21.01 | jelly | !next |
| 13:21.01 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 13:21.19 | jelly | hides |
| 13:21.27 | paxcoder | hehe |
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| 13:22.38 | paxcoder | does netinst come with a shell and fsck? |
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| 13:24.22 | jeddi | paxcoder: yes. |
| 13:24.52 | zhxk | how to configure rpcbind to use port other than 111? |
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| 13:28.31 | jeddi | zhxk: etc/services ? |
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| 13:29.34 | jeddi | zhxk: scratch that - apparently you need to recompile the daemon or do some funky redirection with iptables (or similar) |
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| 13:30.56 | zhxk | jeddi, i dont have iptables start |
| 13:31.39 | Brigo | zhxk, install iptables-persistent. |
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| 13:32.01 | jeddi | zhxk: i mention this only because it was the first hit on the question of redirecting rpcbind to a new port. |
| 13:32.07 | themill | if you don't control your kernel, is that going to work? |
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| 13:33.35 | zhxk | okay, thanks all |
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| 13:34.55 | jeddi | zhxk: are you trying to subvert some organisational firewall rules? |
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| 13:37.04 | zhxk | jeddi, 111 was occupied by another programmes |
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| 13:38.04 | zhxk | so i have to let prcbind use other port |
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| 13:42.06 | jeddi | zhxk: wow, really? at this point you go attract your sysadmin's attention with a short length of 3x2" and explain why ports < 1024 should not be fiddled with. |
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| 13:43.43 | zhxk | jeddi, dont understand your meaning |
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| 13:44.52 | jeddi | zhxk: what other app do you have that has perched itself on port 111 ? (no other apps should - port allocation < 1024 is fairly well moderated). |
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| 13:46.25 | zhxk | jeddi, i configured my shadowsocks to use that port |
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| 13:49.35 | jeddi | zhxk: isn't it easier to change shadowsocks to use a non-reserved port number? |
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| 13:51.23 | zhxk | jeddi, i have send the port to my guest as part of his account |
| 13:51.26 | darxmurf | hi back |
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| 13:51.55 | jeddi | zhxk: right. |
| 13:52.01 | jeddi | darxmurf: back's not here. |
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| 14:06.46 | thnee | Using debian 8 on thinkpad x250, when muting Master on card 1 in alsamixer, it also mutes Speaker and PCM. And vice versa. This means that unmuting doesn't work as expected. How can I work around this? |
| 14:07.16 | thnee | Am I even supposed to be using alsamixer when it runs pulse under the hood? I'm totally confused by this whole thing. |
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| 14:17.24 | petn-randall | thnee: When you're using pulseaudio, it'll handle all the underlying devices. So you should be using pactl or pavucontrol to control your devices. |
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| 14:19.58 | thnee | ok thank you |
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| 14:29.19 | sillysausage | is it possible to get patches for a debian package individually? |
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| 14:29.33 | sillysausage | ie not unified |
| 14:29.58 | sillysausage | im looking at this package specifically http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/s/steghide/steghide_0.5.1-9.1.diff.gz |
| 14:30.13 | sillysausage | ie https://packages.debian.org/source/stretch/steghide |
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| 14:30.38 | sillysausage | http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/steghide/0.5.1-9.1 doesn't seem to go anywhere |
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| 14:32.57 | srg | How can I connect to a remote Oracle DB server on debian? I don't need a GUI or anything, just wanna run some queries. |
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| 14:36.34 | SPF | srg: ssh oracleserver;sqlplus user/pass ? |
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| 14:37.42 | srg | I don't have ssh access. |
| 14:38.43 | srg | In my Windows computer labs on campus, we use Oracle SQL Developer to connect. |
| 14:39.04 | srg | I just wanted to do homework from my house (the school orcale server we use is public facing) |
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| 14:40.51 | jelly | srg: download sqlclient, then |
| 14:41.46 | jelly | and instantclient basic libs |
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| 14:42.32 | jelly | blinks at "oracle db" and "public facing" in the same sentence |
| 14:42.52 | srg | shrugs |
| 14:42.56 | srg | oracle1.cis.temple.edu <- |
| 14:43.05 | srg | public facing :-p |
| 14:43.16 | sillysausage | it seems the only way to get debian package patches for a package is to use http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/diff2patches.1.html |
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| 14:43.31 | sillysausage | or am i missing something? I don't have a debian system accessable atm |
| 14:44.00 | sillysausage | archlinux has some of the patches https://projects.archlinux.org/svntogit/community.git/tree/trunk?h=packages/steghide |
| 14:44.13 | sillysausage | but it seems debian has some more but they are all bound together in a unified patch file |
| 14:44.16 | sillysausage | https://packages.debian.org/source/stretch/steghide |
| 14:44.47 | sillysausage | "Debian Patch Tracker" doesn't seem to go anywhere when i click it |
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| 14:45.44 | sillysausage | im packaging the package for another distribution - and looking for a way to strip out all the debian control stuff |
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| 15:01.06 | colo-work | is there a way to prevent the postgresql-server packages from creating a "main" cluster for a newly installed version _before any postgres package has actually been installed_? (I know about create_main_cluster in /etc/postgresql-common/createcluster.conf) |
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| 15:14.16 | ptrz | so, I started mving a dir, but it failed halfway through because of permissions errors. How can I re-run the mv with sudo so that it "merges" what's left with what's already been moved? |
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| 15:17.49 | Filystyn | guys |
| 15:17.57 | Filystyn | what best DE is for debian?:) |
| 15:18.08 | sillysausage | is there a packaging channel for debian? |
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| 15:19.02 | pkv | the best DE is the DE you like =p |
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| 15:19.17 | sillysausage | Filystyn: best DE is i3wm |
| 15:19.23 | petn-randall | sillysausage: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:19.27 | sillysausage | ah |
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| 15:20.20 | Filystyn | i basicly going to switch from gnome to KDE or xface |
| 15:20.29 | Filystyn | xfce * |
| 15:20.45 | Filystyn | because gnome basicly has ended up all my patience. |
| 15:21.18 | pkv | lxqt looks nice but not in debian repo yet |
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| 15:31.07 | sony_ | g'dday... running a fresh harddisk install of debian/clusterknoppix 3.6 on a Sony Viao PCG-F808K Pentium III with 256MB ram here... it runs out of mem when trying to read the package list... :-)... i guess it could still be usefull as a terminal client... and for IRC |
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| 15:31.45 | sony_ | loves old hardware to tinker with |
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| 16:02.07 | colo-work | linwiz, if you're using system(3), you're already spwning /bin/sh in the process, which could warrant using a pipe through logger(1) to get what you want. it's better style to not use system(3) at all though, and try to find a different solution to handle executables you need to run. if you want system(3) with more fine-grained control over data on stdout/stderr, look into popen(3), which suffers from the same deficiencies otherwise. |
| 16:02.15 | colo-work | (also, this is not a Debian question :)) |
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| 16:06.23 | gmbs | I just updated from wheezy to jessie and now php cannot find PDO. Hints? |
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| 16:08.53 | linwiz | colo-work: thank you for that. I Didn't realize there were other options for running commands, so popen(3) is better than system(3) but there are better yet options? What kind of options am I looking at for this? |
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| 16:09.30 | linwiz | I appologize for asking a non debian question, I just don't know where else to get help |
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| 16:11.31 | colo-work | linwiz, maybe ##programming is appropriate, though I don't know. for immediate consumption, maybe have a look at pipe(2) and also execve(2). |
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| 16:12.33 | ioops | hi |
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| 16:12.43 | linwiz | Thank you. I'll check all that out |
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| 16:17.33 | ioops | just a question, I have gnome-shell 3.16.3 on debian sid and the normal left doble click doesnt work. f.e to go inside a directory I have to press ENTER. If I use nautilus from e18 the double click works with nautilus... any idea? Thank you |
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| 16:19.33 | markybob | ioops, #debian-next on OFTC is used for testing/sid support |
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| 16:20.23 | ioops | markybob, thank u I wil ask there |
| 16:20.25 | nebg | hello everyone... can debian testing and unstable be defined as "rolling release" ? |
| 16:20.26 | ioops | sorry ! |
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| 16:21.18 | ioops | markybob, how can I join #debian-next ? |
| 16:21.26 | ChrisH | !rolling |
| 16:21.26 | dpkg | Testing is not a rolling release in the strict sense of the word. It is a test platform, currently codenamed <stretch>. It is part of the Debian development process and is gradually being built into the next <stable>. Please go to #debian-next on irc.debian.org for support. See <moving target>. |
| 16:21.40 | srg | ioops: #Debian-Next is on OFTC, not Freenode. |
| 16:21.49 | ioops | ok |
| 16:21.56 | deego | nebg: not strictly, like dpkg said, but in effect, yes |
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| 16:23.54 | nebg | deego not strictly because it freezes itself when next stable has to be released right ? |
| 16:24.02 | nebg | and is unstable a rolling release ? |
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| 16:24.35 | nebg | what about kernel ? is for example debian stable bound to a specific kind of kernel branch, and even testing and unstable ? or they refer always to the same kernel ? |
| 16:25.05 | deego | nebg: they are both rolling. yes, testing freezes. Not strictly because they shouldn't be thought of as releases at all, like dpkg said. they are "test platforms". |
| 16:25.27 | deego | nebg: having said that, i'd say they are more stable than some of the other so-called "stable" distributions. |
| 16:25.42 | deego | in fact, these other distributions often base themselves on debian testing |
| 16:26.17 | nebg | deego but are they bound to a specific kernel ? |
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| 16:26.24 | deego | nebg: no |
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| 16:26.25 | nebg | like a mainline or stable ? |
| 16:26.42 | theseb | Voltairee: are you spamming every new person that enters the channel? |
| 16:26.43 | nebg | ok... so debian 9 could have a kernel and debian 8 testing could have another kernel |
| 16:26.47 | nebg | ?? |
| 16:26.49 | nebg | right ? |
| 16:27.27 | nebg | anybody here know |
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| 16:28.23 | nebg | how can i know if there are patches to my current kernel version and how to apply those patches ? |
| 16:28.57 | theseb | help! windows did an automatic upgrade and now my nice dual boot system doesn't load winders anymore?! |
| 16:29.40 | mtn | nebg, stable kernels get security updates for the life of stable. also newer kernels are available in backports |
| 16:30.19 | Brigo | theseb, and what is related to debian that you can boot windows? |
| 16:30.35 | nebg | mtn, but what's the difference between "mainline" and "stable" kernel branches ? |
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| 16:31.02 | theseb | Brigo: well that's my question...is it debian related? |
| 16:31.05 | mtn | nebg, never heard of "mainline" in debian. have you even bothered to read the debian website? |
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| 16:31.15 | theseb | Brigo: could a windows "update" bork the debian grub dual boot system? |
| 16:31.19 | Brigo | theseb, don't know. |
| 16:31.46 | Brigo | theseb, it shouldn't but of course it could. so you lost grub menu? |
| 16:32.01 | theseb | Brigo: grub menu comes up fine |
| 16:32.12 | theseb | Brigo: which makes me think windows hosed itself somehow...but not sure |
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| 16:32.55 | Brigo | theseb, try to reinstall grub with grub-install, maybe windows changed some file expected by grub |
| 16:32.55 | nebg | mtn, which page specifically ? i'm talking about kernel.org... |
| 16:33.03 | nebg | can i install kernel from there right ? |
| 16:33.15 | mtn | nebg, if you want to know about debian, read the debian website. wiki, etc. |
| 16:33.34 | theseb | Brigo: is grub-install some command you run in linux just for this issue? |
| 16:33.36 | mtn | nebg, you don't need to get kernels from kernel.org. get them from the debian repos |
| 16:33.47 | Brigo | nebg, you can install kernels for kernels.org or wherever you want, but it is not supported here. |
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| 16:34.10 | rozie | but it's of course possible to use vanilla kernel on debian. just take a look on make-kpkg from kernel-package |
| 16:34.11 | nebg | Brigo i'm sorry... but if i install a kernel from kernel.org... then my distro i not debian no more ? |
| 16:34.14 | Brigo | theseb, grub-install -as you can guess- is for installing grub. Maybe reinstall it solve the windows issue. |
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| 16:34.34 | Brigo | nebg, it is called frankendebian: |
| 16:34.37 | rozie | just remember to create deb with make-kpkg |
| 16:34.38 | Brigo | !frankendebian |
| 16:34.38 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 16:35.37 | rozie | Brigo: do not panic! kernel is pretty separate part of distribution |
| 16:35.38 | nebg | Brigo, so kernels are installed with dist-upgrade in debian ? |
| 16:35.40 | Brigo | rozie, make-kpkg isn't needed any more. The kernel sources themselves have a object to build debian packages. |
| 16:35.46 | nebg | i mean updated through dist-upgrade ? |
| 16:36.08 | rozie | nebg: they are ordinary package. just like any other |
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| 16:36.09 | Brigo | nebg, no, kernel are installed with apt-get or aptitude, as any other package. |
| 16:36.20 | Brigo | nebg, or just upgrade. |
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| 16:36.39 | rozie | nebg: 99,9% of time no need to use other kernel than from repo |
| 16:36.42 | theseb | Brigo: grub loads bith oses....can you really just nuke it and reinstall it? seems dangerous |
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| 16:36.58 | nebg | rozie, Brigo what about kernel customizations ? |
| 16:37.12 | rozie | nebg: for example? |
| 16:37.15 | nebg | what if i want to customize my kernel in order to put only needed drivers and modules ? |
| 16:37.24 | nebg | in order to optimize my system ? |
| 16:37.26 | rozie | they are aleready there |
| 16:37.32 | rozie | just load them |
| 16:37.34 | nebg | rozie, what do you mean ? |
| 16:37.38 | rozie | (99,9%) of the time |
| 16:37.44 | Brigo | theseb, it isn't it will just detect the installed operating system and configure them.. |
| 16:37.53 | nebg | no no rozie , i mean what if iwant to change kernel configuration to remove the unwanted drivers ? |
| 16:38.03 | Brigo | nebg, you are on your own. |
| 16:38.08 | rozie | nebg: debian kernel is heavy (for disk). it has a lot of modules prepared |
| 16:38.15 | nebg | Brigo, what do you mean ? |
| 16:38.22 | rozie | nebg: why do you want to remove them? |
| 16:38.25 | Brigo | nebg, it is not supported. |
| 16:38.35 | rozie | to save a few megabytes of disk space? |
| 16:38.42 | nebg | Brigo i'm asking if it is possible in debian to customize kernel while still remaining with a debian distro without make it become a frankendebian |
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| 16:39.04 | Brigo | nebg, we can't support any modification who anybody wants to do. |
| 16:39.07 | rozie | sure. grab kernel sources from repo and recompile |
| 16:39.19 | rozie | (still see no point in doing this) |
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| 16:39.40 | Brigo | nebg, as i said it is not supported. |
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| 16:39.57 | Brigo | nebg, it isn't we don't want, it just we can't. |
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| 16:40.22 | nebg | Brigo, ok i understand !thank you ! |
| 16:40.26 | nebg | for the infos |
| 16:40.33 | Brigo | nebg, you are welcome :) |
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| 16:40.51 | rozie | nebg: just use distro kernel and you'll be happy (99,5%...) |
| 16:40.59 | rozie | 99,9%* ;) |
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| 16:45.56 | nebg | ok rozie thank you ! |
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| 16:50.39 | codekK | Hey, i have a problem with Wine, im getting and memory access error trying using WinAPE.exe (cpc emulator) only works when i use it at full screen, and i read about that it works fine in ubuntu without extra conf. Someone can help me? |
| 16:50.59 | johnkeates | codekK: drink less, it helps, also, there are AA meetings |
| 16:51.52 | codekK | johnkeates, oh thanks for the help |
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| 16:52.11 | johnkeates | codekK: no problem, please come again |
| 16:52.17 | johnkeates | codekK: also, there is #wine |
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| 16:58.37 | blah- | greetings |
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| 16:58.56 | algun | just wanna say thanks to jelly (i think) who suggested i solve my 1:20 boot hang by fscking sda3. It's /home, I managed to do it live, hang gone. What was the command to run to see when the next fsck is scheduled (t something)? |
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| 17:00.52 | algun | nvm, it's tune2fs -l /dev/sda3 | grep check |
| 17:01.05 | algun | all good |
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| 17:01.39 | Pheimors | hello |
| 17:01.56 | Pheimors | I'm tring to use my laptop integrated microphone, but it doesn't appears in alsamixer |
| 17:02.08 | Pheimors | I don't know where to start to make it work |
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| 17:05.37 | rwp | Pheimors, Try 'lspci' and look for audio devices. Depending upon many things you may need to load a particular driver for the sound device. |
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| 17:06.10 | hgefgr | Hi I am trying to install experimental Iceweasel, it is all fine but I want to see the new version. I mean I would like to know what version I will be getting if I install it. ALl it says that it will be upgraded. |
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| 17:06.46 | rwp | hgefgr, Try "apt-cache policy iceweasel" to see what versions are where. |
| 17:06.51 | hgefgr | ok thanks |
| 17:07.07 | hgefgr | rwp: thanks that is cool |
| 17:07.21 | rwp | hgefgr, You are most welcome! :-) |
| 17:09.20 | rozie | hgefgr: take a look on http://mozilla.debian.net |
| 17:09.27 | hgefgr | rozie: thanks |
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| 17:39.03 | jhutchins | ,v iceweasel |
| 17:39.04 | judd | Package: iceweasel on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 38.2.1esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 38.2.1esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-security: 38.2.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 38.2.1esr-1~deb8u1; jessie: 38.2.1esr-1~deb8u1; sid: 38.2.1esr-1; jessie-backports/iceweasel-release: 40.0.3-3~bpo80+1; experimental: 40.0.3-3 |
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| 17:40.27 | Annihilation | :) |
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| 17:46.04 | jhutchins | Pheimors: Does it have a physical switch or a hotkey? |
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| 17:48.17 | Pheimors | jhutchins: nop |
| 17:48.30 | Pheimors | thanks, I updated my sustem and it worked after a reboot |
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| 17:51.44 | Tim___ | Hello anybody here? |
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| 17:52.38 | Tim___ | I have a "newbie" question, but I am to0 stupid. Maybe someone can help... |
| 17:52.53 | mtn | !ask |
| 17:52.54 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:53.20 | Tim___ | just a moment... i will write. |
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| 17:57.38 | hyper_ch | hi there, can I somehow block a package from being installed accidentally? |
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| 18:01.06 | SolarNRG | How do I script my bootup so it can run commands of my choosing when I first boot up? |
| 18:01.13 | freiu | can i disable systemd in jessie? or, better yet, how can I debug shutdown? I am having some issues, where scripts I have created and set to run on rcS.d are not properly shutting down. there are two scripts (do not know which, but have an idea) that need to time out before the system will shut down |
| 18:01.21 | freiu | SolarNRG, rcS.d |
| 18:02.08 | SolarNRG | freiu: command not found |
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| 18:03.48 | Brigo | freiu, http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ |
| 18:04.22 | Brigo | SolarNRG, you have to create a systemd unit file. |
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| 18:04.43 | SolarNRG | Brigo, what folder has it got to be in? |
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| 18:05.13 | Brigo | SolarNRG, /etc/systemd/system |
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| 18:06.34 | SolarNRG | how do I write to etc/systemd/system ? I'm not the owner |
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| 18:07.23 | Brigo | SolarNRG, you can't write init files -even for systemvinit- if you aren't root. |
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| 18:08.54 | Brigo | SolarNRG, if you meant user scripts, then you can put the unit files in .local/share/systemd/ or .config/systemd/ |
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| 18:11.08 | Tim___ | Debian with rasbian, cruet version: I have an application running, which runs as root. My root account is deactivated (sudo -> and I am using the pi user). Now I have installed avahi and netatalk to see the files on a mac. All is running, but I can not write into the folder of the root application.. |
| 18:11.24 | Tim___ | cruer = current |
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| 18:13.12 | Tim___ | groups are: openhab:x:112:pi AND pi:x:1000:openhab (The application is called openhab and the folder /etc/openhab, where I want to write is owned by root:root |
| 18:13.22 | Tim___ | can anybody help |
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| 18:14.06 | markybob | Tim___, why can't you just sudo nano -w /etc/openhab/foo ? |
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| 18:15.04 | Tim___ | what did you mean? sorry for stupid questions? |
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| 18:15.53 | Tim___ | my /etc/netatalk/AppleVolumes.default has the entries: |
| 18:15.58 | Tim___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.05 | Tim___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:16.19 | markybob | Tim___, you have sudo. so sudo nano -w to edit/create text files or sudo cp foo /etc/openhab/ to copy them there |
| 18:16.27 | Tim___ | these are the folder, which I want to see and write into |
| 18:16.52 | Tim___ | my problem is the access from the mac to the Rpi |
| 18:17.10 | Tim___ | I see both share, but can not write into |
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| 18:18.10 | Tim___ | I assume, that I have to put pi into the group of root, might this work? |
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| 18:27.13 | DammitJim | does lsof -p give you actual and active ESTABLISHED connections to another server? |
| 18:27.24 | DammitJim | I"m using that as a tool to determine if my connection pools are set up properly on a tomcat server |
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| 18:30.59 | gothenburg | Markdown is really nice |
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| 18:32.35 | offender742 | burn all jews in oven |
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| 18:32.39 | offender742 | burn all jews in oven |
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| 18:32.43 | offender742 | sieg heil |
| 18:32.45 | offender742 | death to infidels |
| 18:32.47 | offender742 | allahu akhbar |
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| 18:33.08 | SolarNRG | offender742, good luck getting passed the IDF |
| 18:33.56 | centrx | They are not big fans of Muslim Nazis |
| 18:34.02 | offender742 | i throw stones to jews |
| 18:34.06 | offender742 | my stones crush israeli tanks |
| 18:34.16 | johnkeates | good for you |
| 18:34.29 | johnkeates | unless you installed debian on those stones, it's not really relevant... |
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| 18:35.00 | SolarNRG | how can you afford to pay for the best weapons to destroy them when they control the world's monetary supply? |
| 18:35.14 | johnkeates | they use tinfoil hats |
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| 18:35.45 | SolarNRG | those tin foil yamakuh's don't offer much coverage |
| 18:36.15 | johnkeates | well, anything virtual like money or belief in a book or imaginary friends isn't gonna help you much with.. anything :p |
| 18:36.35 | johnkeates | it's only a currency between two people who believe the same thing |
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| 18:36.51 | johnkeates | and thus only matters if you are interacting with people like that |
| 18:36.52 | cxd13 | lol tin foil yamakuh |
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| 18:40.21 | SolarNRG | johnkeates, what books, like the Microsoft Windows installation manual? And people who use microsoft, there's a cult if ever I saw one |
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| 18:41.55 | johnkeates | Well, yes |
| 18:42.07 | johnkeates | but the paper and ink, in turn, are not virtual but material |
| 18:42.18 | johnkeates | also, books burn well |
| 18:42.22 | freiu | SolarNRG, use lead foil |
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| 18:42.31 | johnkeates | use uranium foil instead! |
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| 18:51.10 | pk64 | has there been any movement on personal package archives , a la Launchpad, this year? I remember someone mentioning on reddit that there was some mention of this at a conf |
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| 18:59.19 | zork_ | Hello, quick question; I'm using school network so I need to login through a captive portal to connect to internet. Would I be able to install debian with the netinstall image? |
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| 19:01.25 | valdyn | zork_: no |
| 19:02.02 | valdyn | zork_: your specification is wrong or useless or both |
| 19:02.29 | valdyn | zork_: "connecting to internet" means just "able to use the www", maybe |
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| 19:03.11 | zork_ | yes |
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| 19:04.48 | linuxthefish | why is wireless so hit and miss in debian? |
| 19:05.11 | valdyn | linuxthefish: thats not a support question |
| 19:05.23 | linuxthefish | i'm using /etc/network/interfaces and wpa_supplicant, and it won't connect half the time |
| 19:05.46 | valdyn | !tell linuxthefish -about ask |
| 19:06.07 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: That's not a Debian thing. |
| 19:06.08 | linuxthefish | ifup wlan1 says "ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT]: Invalid argument" but iwconfig does not show the SSID |
| 19:06.23 | linuxthefish | what's the debian way to configure wireless? |
| 19:06.31 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: Which would be the invalid argument - a blank SSID. |
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| 19:06.59 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: What kind of connection? Static location or mobile? |
| 19:07.27 | linuxthefish | i can't see anything in ifup about ssid O.o |
| 19:07.39 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: You wouldn't. |
| 19:07.44 | linuxthefish | static jhutchins, like right next to the access point with no other users |
| 19:08.09 | linuxthefish | valdyn, i dont understand sorry |
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| 19:08.48 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: Most people just use Network Manager and the NMApplet to configure it via a GUI, but you can do static console-based config as well. |
| 19:08.51 | jhutchins | !wpa |
| 19:08.52 | dpkg | Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) is a wireless encryption standard. A WPA supplicant for Debian systems is in the wpasupplicant package, read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure (especially "Troubleshooting" for association to hidden SSIDs). Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", it is possible to install Debian over a WPA-protected network. https://wiki.debian.org/WPA https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
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| 19:11.04 | linuxthefish | that looks what I've done jhutchins for wpasupplicant, and i guess it must work as it works most of the time |
| 19:11.27 | linuxthefish | just if i reboot 5 times, like 1 or 2 time he will not re-connect and ifup wlan1 does not turn him on |
| 19:12.06 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: Make sure that networkmanager is NOT running! |
| 19:12.36 | jhutchins | linuxthefish: (Also wicd, but that is a manual install.) |
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| 19:21.37 | srg | Where should I put my command line aliases? I have them in .bashrc now, but the top of that file says it's for no-login shells |
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| 19:25.15 | jmcnaught | srg: i put them in ~/.bash_aliases. If you check the bottom of the default .bashrc you'll see .bash_aliases gets sourced if it exists. Login shells execute ~/.profile, which defaults to sourcing ~/.bashrc |
| 19:25.16 | cxd13 | .bash_aliases |
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| 19:33.29 | linuxthefish | now why does debian not assign eth0 it's IP address after reboot? i didn't even change anything relating to eth0, just wlan... |
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| 19:34.26 | dm7freek | i dragged a file onto a folder in Files, and now the icon it made wont go away. worse still, it is on top of all windows! |
| 19:34.36 | dm7freek | is the only way to make it go away to reboot? |
| 19:34.46 | dm7freek | id rather not reboot if possible |
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| 19:38.50 | Brigo | linuxthefish, debian asign a ip after reboot if the system is configured for doing so. |
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| 19:39.17 | Brigo | dm7freek, gnome? |
| 19:39.30 | linuxthefish | Brigo, it's configured in the interfaces file and brings the interface up but does not assign the IP - the only way to make it do so is to run "ifdown eth0" then "ifup eth0" |
| 19:39.53 | linuxthefish | no other network manager or network configuration toold running, just interfaces file :( |
| 19:39.56 | Brigo | linuxthefish, weird, check logs. |
| 19:39.58 | skibur | I just updated to Jessie, but my Radeon Driver is very choppy. :( |
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| 19:40.04 | skibur | Any idea why? |
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| 19:40.13 | Brigo | skibur, drivers, usually. |
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| 19:41.27 | skibur | Same thing with Wheezy, but I had ripped the drivers from a CENTOS 5.6 Live CD and it worked |
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| 19:44.36 | skibur | Anybody know of a Debian Distro that are still on Linux 2.6? |
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| 19:45.35 | valdyn | skibur: you might need to install the firmware package |
| 19:46.03 | valdyn | firmware-linux-nonfree - Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel |
| 19:46.24 | skibur | apt-get install firmware-linux |
| 19:46.29 | skibur | that? |
| 19:46.51 | valdyn | skibur: that would work |
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| 19:47.59 | skibur | done |
| 19:48.20 | skibur | Do I need to do something else? |
| 19:48.30 | skibur | or should it auto check ? |
| 19:48.33 | valdyn | skibur: debian splitting out the firmware might coincide with switching from 2.6 to 3.x, i dont know |
| 19:48.49 | valdyn | skibur: that is all, just reboot maybe |
| 19:48.58 | skibur | brb |
| 19:49.06 | glosoli | Hey, what is the current good practice under Debian when running docker when it tries to use overlayfs, over aufs which is used in the root file system. Should I somehow reformat my drive or something ? (new to devicemapper stuff) |
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| 19:50.08 | nwe | can I use php-fpm to handle cgi-script I have built a hello.cgi (with perl) .. |
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| 19:52.28 | jhutchins | nwe: Do you know what tias means? |
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| 19:53.36 | skibur | Didn't work :( |
| 19:53.47 | skibur | hum.... |
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| 19:54.02 | nwe | jhutchins: Thanks In Advance.. |
| 19:54.13 | nwe | or? |
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| 19:54.36 | rainfyre | This Is A Script? |
| 19:55.06 | jonkristian | what package has libjpeg.so.8 ? Anyone? |
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| 19:55.50 | markybob | jonkristian, libjpeg8 |
| 19:55.57 | skibur | I don't understand... Bootable Jessie Radeon works fine. Why is it when I install it, it's laggy? |
| 19:56.20 | jonkristian | markybob, I can't find it |
| 19:56.30 | markybob | ,v libjpeg8 |
| 19:56.31 | judd | Package: libjpeg8 on amd64 -- squeeze: 8b-1; wheezy: 8d-1+deb7u1; sid: 8d1-2; stretch: 8d1-2 |
| 19:57.13 | jonkristian | I'm on jessie |
| 19:57.52 | markybob | jonkristian, backport it |
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| 20:02.30 | jhutchins | nwps: Also Try It And See. |
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| 20:02.54 | teraflops | Try it and ser⢠|
| 20:03.07 | teraflops | See* |
| 20:03.15 | jhutchins | Why would there be anything new in libjpeg? |
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| 20:07.18 | Hirsch | hi ho |
| 20:07.34 | Hirsch | my debian kind of dies when the battery level <= 0 |
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| 20:07.58 | markybob | umm. yeah. |
| 20:08.00 | Hirsch | battery sensor data |
| 20:08.15 | Hirsch | the battery will continue working for 2h |
| 20:09.04 | Hirsch | so its something software triggered (like trying to force the computer into standby) when battery_sensor <= 0 - and there seems to be no accessible setting |
| 20:09.54 | Hirsch | with "die" i mean computer freezing for 3 minutes - sounderrors and after that standby (which is broken) |
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| 20:16.09 | Hirsch | how / where can i set the action that debian should (not) perform when the "battery is critical"-data is processed? |
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| 20:17.43 | Hirsch | no ideas? |
| 20:18.28 | Hirsch | i found examples in the internet that used the dconf editor to unset this behavior but the according key is not present on the system |
| 20:19.51 | ryouma | my mouse pointer is too small. i tried "Xcursor.size: 64" in ~/.Xresources but that made no difference. what else should i try? |
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| 20:20.37 | markybob | ryouma, in xfce settings->mouse->theme |
| 20:20.54 | markybob | ryouma, i imagine others have similar |
| 20:20.56 | ryouma | markybob: i use fluxbox |
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| 20:21.30 | ryouma | in wheezy at least there is no config option for that |
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| 20:23.21 | massi | waves everybody |
| 20:23.52 | Hirsch | this "bug" makes debian completely unusable for me. in xfce -> settings -> energy options the "perform when battery is critical" setting is set to "nothinmg" |
| 20:24.00 | Hirsch | but it keeps trying to shut down |
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| 20:24.36 | srg | Hirsch: That might be acpi thing built into the laptop hardware. |
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| 20:24.38 | jpalmer | Hirsch: that seems more like an xfce bug, than a "debian" bug |
| 20:26.03 | markybob | Hirsch, he has a point. maybe try #xfce |
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| 20:27.19 | Hirsch | srg: its not - it worked with other os'es |
| 20:27.52 | nebg | hello everyone... can somebody tell me the difference between apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 20:27.55 | Hirsch | i tried sudo service upower stop - and after 30 sek the screen flashed and everything freeze and tried to standby |
| 20:27.55 | brontosaurusrex | what would be the correct syntax for hsetroot -tint <color> ? -tint #777777 says Missing color |
| 20:27.56 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/777777 in src:aqsis (closed, sid, stretch): «aqsis: ftbfs with GCC-5»; severity: important; opened: 2015-02-12; last modified: 2015-07-25. |
| 20:27.57 | kaak | can someone help me understand why BOOTP clients' hardware address must be declared beforehand with ISC dhcp server? |
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| 20:27.59 | srg | nebg: man apt-get |
| 20:28.15 | srg | nebg: the man page explains it in the first page |
| 20:28.30 | markybob | nebg, one updates the sources db and the other actually upgrades |
| 20:28.40 | srg | nebg: (not to be rude, but the man page probably explains it in more detail than anyone will care to on IRC) |
| 20:30.46 | nebg | markybob, incorrect |
| 20:30.57 | nebg | apt-get update updates the db |
| 20:31.02 | markybob | yes |
| 20:31.09 | markybob | how was i incorrect? |
| 20:31.33 | markybob | nebg, don't talk about what you don't understand |
| 20:31.40 | nebg | ops i mieant apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 20:32.04 | nebg | markybob, sorry i confused myself :D |
| 20:32.50 | skibur | I'm really confused now. So When I install Jessie on my Laptop, Radeon is laggy. When I use Bootable Jessie, Radeon is Good!. So I copied the initrd.img, System.map, vmlinuz and added it to my grub, I bootabled my laptop locally selected the CD's kernel and it worked!, WHY!!!?? |
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| 20:34.07 | skibur | both System.map and Vmlinuz are the same size CD and Locally, but initrd.img, CD is bigger than the local initrd.img |
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| 20:44.55 | skibur | hum... |
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| 20:46.14 | jhutchins | skibur: If you figure it out, PLEASE DOCUMENT IT! |
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| 20:47.30 | valdyn | skibur: try running "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)" |
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| 20:51.23 | Jens1112 | hello |
| 20:51.35 | skibur | ok |
| 20:51.37 | skibur | will do |
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| 20:53.16 | Jens1112 | ive got two little things that make me wonder 1 some applications have been removed i.e. xcaht2 and 2 when i type shutdown -h 12:00 it shuts down immediately...anyone can help me pls im on testing debian |
| 20:53.33 | jhutchins | valdyn: Won't that reconfigure the good, working image so that it's like the bad, previously built image? |
| 20:54.16 | jhutchins | Jens1112: I think the shutdown problem is a known bug with systemd. |
| 20:54.25 | Jens1112 | oh thanks |
| 20:54.48 | t3x | hi, i have an "easy" question... days ago i was using deb-multimedia, and icewasel was ok to open html5 video mp4... for the transition i prefered to disable the repository and force packages to use the official debian repo... i'm using debian testing 64bit... i've gstreamer1.0-plugins-* installed, and youtube.com/html5 give me ok, so i don't understand where is the problem, can you help me? |
| 20:54.51 | jhutchins | Jens1112: Ask in #debian-next on oftc.net - they might have a workaround. |
| 20:55.17 | Jens1112 | thanks jhutchins |
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| 20:56.12 | jhutchins | t3x: Do you mean that you "upgraded" from stable to testing and now iceweasel doesn't work with html5? |
| 20:56.49 | Jens1112 | so siome basic applications get removed frequently after a period, because this is mostly a basic cinnamonx64 install and some applications got removed recently by updating the system |
| 20:57.23 | t3x | no, i have always debian testing, but it seems there is something that now doesn't work in iceweasel and html5 video mp4... webm works, for exemple... |
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| 20:58.09 | jhutchins | Jens1112: Only full-upgrade or dist-upgrade will remove packages that have been replaced. |
| 20:58.17 | WormFood | Is there an unofficial repo of newer Linux kernels for debian? I need at least 4.2, because that is when the kernel gets support for a piece of hardware I have. |
| 20:58.34 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 20:58.35 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.1.6-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u3) |
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| 20:59.03 | WormFood | looks like no 4.2 backport for jessie |
| 21:00.14 | Jens1112 | thanks jhutchins im done for now |
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| 21:00.52 | Jens1112 | as its a desktop more or less im shutting down with cron job i think |
| 21:01.03 | t3x | what can i do? |
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| 21:03.27 | jhutchins | Jens1112: Supposedly the bug has been fixed and we're just waiting for a new systemd package to make it's way through the pipeline. |
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| 21:11.34 | Jens1112 | slaps jhutchins around a bit with a large fishbot |
| 21:11.58 | Jens1112 | sorry tis webchat :( good night |
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| 21:14.22 | nebg | which is the difference between apt-get install and apt-install ? |
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| 21:18.50 | umbra_purus | Hey. Having trouble with a fresh install of debian 7.8 in my netbook, samsung n150 plus, and the problem is that I can't change the brightness of the lcd. can someone help me please |
| 21:18.51 | umbra_purus | ? |
| 21:18.53 | hexnewbie | nebg: The second does not sound like a part of Debian. |
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| 21:19.17 | nebg | hexnewbie, i have debian testing... and is there... |
| 21:19.21 | babilen | umbra_purus: Why did you install such an old version? |
| 21:19.56 | nebg | umbra_purus, which Desktop environment are you using ? |
| 21:19.56 | babilen | nebg: You probably mean "apt install" rather than "apt-install" then. apt is a different frontend and the effect of that command would be the same. It would look different though. |
| 21:20.15 | umbra_purus | babilen, because I only had that ISO and no internet connection. But is that a problem? |
| 21:20.15 | hexnewbie | nebg: apt-file doesn't seem to find any file with that name |
| 21:20.17 | nebg | babilen, yes sorry i meant "apt install"... |
| 21:20.45 | nebg | but so what's the difference between "apt-get upgrade", "apt-get dist-upgrade" and "apt full-upgrade" ??? |
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| 21:21.46 | babilen | umbra_purus: Well, it is a pretty old release that was released quite some time ago and has been superseded by jessie. The question is simply: Have your problems been fixed by now. I'd also really wouldn't install new wheezy machines unless I have to |
| 21:21.47 | zykotick9 | nebg: fyi, dist-upgrade and full-upgrade are the same thing... |
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| 21:22.36 | babilen | nebg: upgrade/full-upgrade differ in their treatment regarding package removal and installations. But read the manpage(s) of the commands you just mentioned. All these things are explained therein. |
| 21:22.45 | nebg | zykotick9, but they use a different frontend... one apt, and the other apt-get... are you sure they are the same ? |
| 21:23.31 | zykotick9 | nebg: oh sorry, didn't notice you specified "apt full-upgrade" at the end there... apt and apt-get are different yes. |
| 21:23.33 | umbra_purus | babilen, so your recommendation is to download jessie? This is a pretty low rate laptop. intel atom and 2 gb ram ddr3 |
| 21:24.11 | nebg | zykotick9, so how do "apt full-upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade" differ ? |
| 21:24.19 | hexnewbie | nebg: Run man apt, and go to "DIFFERENCES TO APT-GET(8)" |
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| 21:24.31 | markybob | nebg, why can't you read ? how man times do we have to tell you? |
| 21:24.58 | umbra_purus | babilen, ? |
| 21:25.14 | jhutchins | markybob: Patience. |
| 21:25.35 | hexnewbie | umbra_purus: What's the video on that? Sorry if you mentioned it. |
| 21:25.49 | umbra_purus | the video? |
| 21:25.56 | hexnewbie | umbra_purus: Video adapter. |
| 21:25.57 | umbra_purus | what do you mean? the graphics card? |
| 21:26.37 | hexnewbie | umbra_purus: Yeah |
| 21:27.03 | umbra_purus | Intel integrated GMA 3150 |
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| 21:27.23 | babilen | umbra_purus: It might be that you wouldn't ezperience this issue in jessie at all |
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| 21:27.27 | nebg | markybob, calm down... |
| 21:27.31 | nebg | man |
| 21:27.42 | nebg | sorry |
| 21:28.05 | t3x | the iceweasel console says me that the problem why don't show me videos is with cross-origin.... hmmm.... |
| 21:28.23 | t3x | CORS request |
| 21:28.29 | hexnewbie | umbra_purus: I also second the suggestion to try Jessie. The Intel driver will see an upgrade, which might fix the brightness issue |
| 21:28.33 | babilen | umbra_purus: And yes, I'd always recommend to run the current stablem but you can upgrade: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html |
| 21:28.41 | jhutchins | !it |
| 21:28.42 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:29.49 | umbra_purus | hexnewbie, I've narrowed down the problem. i just need help fixing it. The OS is not recognizing the shortcut keys or even the changing of the brightness in system settings |
| 21:30.19 | umbra_purus | Using a command I've found in a fix thread i was able to increase the brightness of the lcd |
| 21:30.38 | hexnewbie | umbra_purus: OK, if I am understanding you correctly, you narrowed it down so that everything is an issue? :) |
| 21:31.07 | hexnewbie | umbra_purus: OK, so brightness works. :) If the keys are detected by xev, you could always bind them to said command. |
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| 21:31.55 | nebg | jhutchins, ? |
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| 21:32.40 | nebg | jhutchins... debian-it has 28 users... dead channel |
| 21:32.42 | nebg | come on |
| 21:33.44 | jhutchins | nebg: Sometimes the language barrier is greater than the advantage of a lot of users. |
| 21:34.44 | nebg | jhutchins, yes on this i agree with you |
| 21:34.48 | jhutchins | nebg: The German, Spanish, and Portuguese channels are usually reasonably active, but there are also mailing lists that are probably better for the smaller channels. |
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| 21:35.06 | nebg | jhutchins, i agree with you |
| 21:35.33 | jhutchins | nebg: How's the french channel? |
| 21:35.40 | nebg | but i would go to those channels only in case i don't know how to write basic english |
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| 21:35.51 | nebg | jhutchins, what makes you think i'm french ? |
| 21:36.01 | jhutchins | 2001:41d0:52:500::c5a |
| 21:36.07 | nebg | mhh... then ? |
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| 21:36.39 | nebg | do you think my ipv6 address gives a resonable location ? :D |
| 21:36.39 | jhutchins | I can't reveal all of my methods <grin>. |
| 21:36.47 | nebg | jhutchins, XD |
| 21:36.56 | jhutchins | nebg: It gives a _possible_ location. |
| 21:37.10 | nebg | no i'm sorry i'm not in france the geo ip localization for ipv6 is not that good it seems |
| 21:37.17 | nebg | italy... |
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| 21:39.25 | jhutchins | nebg: Might be registered to a french company. |
| 21:39.37 | nebg | possible |
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| 21:57.54 | g00se | exim trying to listen on wrong address (i think) but i can't see how to set this http://sprunge.us/OTWB |
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| 22:02.23 | johnkeates | g00se: no, it's simply already in use |
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| 22:02.53 | g00se | What about that business of 192.168.1.4? |
| 22:03.25 | johnkeates | that's an IP it found somewhere, must be in ifconfig visible or in one of the config files (use grep -r or rgrep to find it) |
| 22:04.08 | johnkeates | also check hosts file because it might have reversed the hostname to try and find the host ip |
| 22:04.49 | g00se | I did grep for it actually - without success |
| 22:05.21 | johnkeates | if the address isn't listed in any file in / then it must be resolved actively/dynamically |
| 22:07.03 | g00se | OK john, let me test to see if it sends. Can you show me the simplest possibly test send via exim? |
| 22:07.47 | johnkeates | if exim is used for local mail delivery, mail or mailx from the commandline should work |
| 22:08.13 | johnkeates | but since exim fails anyway because the port is in use, you might want to find uit who is listening on the exim ports |
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| 22:12.04 | g00se | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:25 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 8300/exim4 |
| 22:13.24 | johnkeates | so it's running already |
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| 22:13.35 | johnkeates | exam might be wanting to listen on other ports too |
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| 22:13.39 | johnkeates | exim |
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| 22:13.49 | johnkeates | not sure if it's a POP server as well, or IMAP |
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| 22:13.55 | g00se | Can you please give me a simple mailx test command? |
| 22:14.00 | johnkeates | but in those cases it wants 110 and 143 too |
| 22:14.06 | johnkeates | well, mailx is interactive |
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| 22:14.11 | g00se | Ah |
| 22:14.20 | johnkeates | type: mailx someone@mail.com <ENTER> |
| 22:14.23 | johnkeates | then subject <ENTER> |
| 22:14.27 | johnkeates | then the message |
| 22:14.30 | johnkeates | and then control+D |
| 22:14.46 | johnkeates | and then it's put in the mail queue and exim should pick it up |
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| 22:22.02 | g00se | Something queer going on. Almost as if there's some other config at work. Just configged to send via smarthost of smtp.btinternet.com but mailx/exim seems to be trying smtp.google.com |
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| 22:24.32 | johnkeates | g00se: that's because it wants to deliver mail directly |
| 22:24.48 | johnkeates | g00se: exim is not outlook express, it's an MTA |
| 22:24.52 | johnkeates | and maybe even MX |
| 22:24.59 | johnkeates | i don't know how it describes itself |
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| 22:27.11 | g00se | But i've configured it to use a smarthost |
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| 22:29.59 | g00se | Actually that paniclog is really a false alarm - it was last modified over a year ago |
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| 22:32.28 | ProfessorKaos64 | Ive checked https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository#aptly, but looking for advice on a nice option I can host on my debian digtal ocean droplet. Looking for a beginner easier setup, that allows multiple package versions and gpg |
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| 22:37.09 | nebg | debian are the modules in /sys/module the one necessary for the working of the system.. .or there could be some modules there which are loaded but no used ? |
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| 22:38.18 | Plagman | hello |
| 22:38.42 | Plagman | is there a way for 'reprepro update' to delete packages from the target repository that have been removed from the source? |
| 22:38.56 | ProfessorKaos64 | Plagman, from Valve? |
| 22:38.59 | Plagman | the equivalent from --delete in rsync |
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| 22:39.14 | Plagman | hi |
| 22:39.16 | Plagman | yes |
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| 22:39.32 | ProfessorKaos64 | Oh wow, nice to sorta meet ya in any case. carry on, thanks for StamOS |
| 22:40.02 | ProfessorKaos64 | I want to use the same thing to setup a repo for SteamOS-Tools for SteamOS hacking around, but I'm woried abou the "one package version" part |
| 22:40.24 | Plagman | looks like some commands do have a --delete switch, I can try that |
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| 22:54.27 | Plagman | looks like --delete was it |
| 22:54.31 | Plagman | similar semantics has rsync |
| 22:54.32 | Plagman | as* |
| 22:54.33 | Plagman | sorry |
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| 23:11.02 | MethylatorX | Hello |
| 23:11.05 | MethylatorX | Debians |
| 23:11.22 | MethylatorX | How to install Debian Jessie on a MBP without rEFIt |
| 23:11.55 | MethylatorX | i wanted the UEFI GPT Support Image but there no one there |
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| 23:19.07 | pugfantus | MethylatorX: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall <-- have you checked this out? |
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| 23:22.28 | MethylatorX | no |
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| 23:23.52 | pugfantus | https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI <-- more good info here too |
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| 23:27.05 | MethylatorX | how to prepare the media as UEFI ? :D |
| 23:27.25 | MethylatorX | that's the first question , the rest is hackable with grub with efibootmgr |
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| 23:54.41 | krzee | when i run /etc/init.d/ejabberd start it works, but when i put update-rc.d ejabberd defaults ejabberd does not start on reboot |
| 23:56.46 | krzee | should i just stick /etc/init.d/ejabberd start in rc.local and call it a day? lol |
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