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| 00:07.18 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, Debian has one package that I am currently interrested on, and as seen in the "packages in need of help", the person currently asks for help. How can I make my first move here? |
| 00:07.40 | Ephexeve | Do I need to mail the mainteiner, or do the "reportbug" section? |
| 00:08.05 | maazu | maintainer |
| 00:08.57 | Ephexeve | Cool, thanks! |
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| 00:24.16 | nebg | how does debian updates configuration files when new packages are installed ? |
| 00:24.28 | nebg | is there something of this kind pdate configuration files ? |
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| 00:26.07 | nebg | like dispatch-conf on gentoo ? |
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| 00:26.55 | markybob | nebg, you'll get a message telling you about it and the differences if it's important |
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| 00:28.06 | nebg | and i can choose which one i want to keep ? |
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| 00:28.52 | markybob | nebg, most of the time |
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| 00:44.24 | N3X15 | any way to force remove mysql-server? I'm using a patched version, which is screwing up the package configuration step |
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| 00:46.21 | Rudde | So EncFS tells me that my encsfs.xml config ins't compatible with --reverse option, how do I make it compatible? |
| 00:46.35 | markybob | N3X15, try sudo dpkg --purge --force-all mysql-server ...but don't blame me |
| 00:46.57 | markybob | N3X15, third party is never supported |
| 00:47.02 | N3X15 | Is that going to nuke my configuration? |
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| 00:47.29 | markybob | N3X15, yes |
| 00:47.39 | N3X15 | Also, I mean that I'm using a make installed version (which is in /opt), and Debian managed to install its version as well |
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| 00:50.56 | markybob | N3X15, that's why it's not supported. i don't know how to remove "make install" version of it. try their channel |
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| 00:51.28 | N3X15 | No, I'm trying to remove the Debian version, which is stuck trying to configure the make installed version. |
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| 00:54.34 | JohnA | Are question about stretch - off topic |
| 00:54.47 | markybob | N3X15, so what i said should work |
| 00:55.25 | markybob | JohnA, no |
| 00:55.57 | JohnA | markybob: Thanks |
| 00:57.59 | markybob | N3X15, man dpkg btw. |
| 00:58.12 | markybob | N3X15, make sure it's doing what you want. |
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| 00:58.25 | N3X15 | I'm just backing up my etc and /var/lib/mysql at the moment. |
| 00:58.33 | markybob | good |
| 00:58.53 | N3X15 | I have /etc versioned as a git repo, but just in case. |
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| 00:59.14 | markybob | N3X15, and definitely backup the database(s) |
| 01:00.08 | N3X15 | Yeah. I know. Reason I asked was in case anyone had any more delicate ways of telling the debian package to skip the config step |
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| 01:03.56 | N3X15 | Good, it left the databases. |
| 01:04.02 | N3X15 | Thanks, markybob |
| 01:04.04 | markybob | N3X15, yay :) |
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| 01:25.49 | cnz | up faggots |
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| 01:42.16 | Joey_Bellows | Anyone have any tips on getting Debian to run on a Galaxy Tab 4? |
| 01:42.36 | bazhang | is that arm |
| 01:43.41 | Joey_Bellows | bazhang let me check I think it is |
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| 01:44.35 | Joey_Bellows | bazhang, yes it is |
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| 01:46.42 | Joey_Bellows | bazhang, I am trying to get either Debian or Ubuntu touch on it to test it out, have you ever done this? |
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| 01:48.13 | markybob | Joey_Bellows, don't believe it to be possible. with either. |
| 01:48.28 | Joey_Bellows | even though it is ARM? |
| 01:48.30 | bazhang | Joey_Bellows, I gave you the proper ubuntu channel to check in, no idea about debian sorry |
| 01:48.38 | markybob | Joey_Bellows, even though |
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| 02:07.17 | brian|lfs | hello anyone know about vfio |
| 02:07.50 | brian|lfs | I can completely log out of my machine and log in as root and pass my vga but if i do it as a normal user I can't I get permission denied. |
| 02:10.00 | brian|lfs | By the way I am running Debian Jessie. |
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| 03:01.12 | veek | if i have a problem with my debian jessie, (ntfs not mounting), what's the best way to uninstall the kernel completely and reinstall it |
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| 03:01.28 | veek | without having to do a full reinstall |
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| 03:02.35 | cwood | You might want to troubleshoot why it's not mounting more closely, doing things like "dmesg | tail" after the failed mount. |
| 03:02.46 | markybob | veek, uninstalling the kernel is pretty crazy. apt-get --reinstall first maybe? |
| 03:03.17 | markybob | veek, and what cwood said |
| 03:03.45 | SirLagz | veek: and you're probably not using the kernel ntfs module anyway |
| 03:04.05 | veek | ah yeah.. hmm i'm using the ntfs-3g module |
| 03:04.22 | veek | i get fuse: writing device: Invalid argument (with debug option) |
| 03:04.58 | markybob | veek, and you're mounting it how? |
| 03:05.43 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:06.37 | markybob | veek, shouldn't that be -t ntfs-3g? https://wiki.debian.org/NTFS |
| 03:07.28 | markybob | veek, plus what's fsname option? |
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| 03:10.24 | veek | markybob, hmm no idea i just tried with ntfs-3g and got the same results |
| 03:10.40 | markybob | veek, did you remove all the crap and followed the wiki? |
| 03:10.59 | paperd | hello |
| 03:11.01 | markybob | mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /mnt/windows |
| 03:11.07 | markybob | veek, ^^ |
| 03:12.31 | paperd | when I run dmesg, I get the text "1;2c1;2c1;2c" in my prompt after the command finishes, any idea why? |
| 03:14.03 | veek | paperd, binary data |
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| 03:15.14 | paperd | any idea of how to make it stop? |
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| 03:16.33 | veek | dmesg -H ? |
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| 03:18.06 | paperd | I guess that works... |
| 03:18.58 | paperd | but not exactly what I had in mind |
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| 03:20.57 | markybob | veek, did it work? |
| 03:21.34 | veek | markybob, nope but there aresome funny options being passed and i dunno where they are from |
| 03:21.40 | veek | fstype is not listed in man |
| 03:21.46 | veek | rather 'fsname' |
| 03:22.13 | veek | i tried somethingl ike ntfs-3g -o debug,ro,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,fsname=,blkdev,blksize=4096 /dev/sda4 /mnt |
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| 03:22.19 | markybob | veek that's why i asked wtf. don't know where you got that from. with no options it still fails, eh? with what error? |
| 03:22.23 | veek | 'fsname' is an unsupported option. |
| 03:22.31 | markybob | veek, that's not what i told you to try last |
| 03:22.48 | veek | markybob, yeah i tried that earlier cmd - no luck |
| 03:22.57 | markybob | veek with what error? |
| 03:23.20 | markybob | veek, pastebin it |
| 03:24.47 | veek | http://i.imgur.com/CEd887v.png (markybob) |
| 03:26.19 | markybob | veek, okay. doesn't look great. ntfsfix /dev/sda4 ? |
| 03:27.15 | veek | markybob, nothing wrong with the fs as such.. windows 10 chkdsk ran without complaints |
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| 03:27.33 | veek | it's those options that are causing the problem.. somehow they are being generated |
| 03:27.43 | veek | Mount options: rw,allow_other,nonempty,relatime,fsname=/dev/sda4,blkdev,blksize=4096 |
| 03:28.04 | veek | fuse is converting a simple -t ntfs-3g into that |
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| 03:29.09 | veek | let me try apt-get purge fuse libfuse2 |
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| 03:45.58 | c_wraith | I'm running debian8.1-xfce. I want my display to blank after 10 minutes most of the time, and that's how I have it set up. However, I want some way to temporarily override that if I'm watching netflix or something. The equivalent of an OS X "never put the display to sleep" hot corner would be ideal. Is there a tool for this? |
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| 03:48.41 | markybob | c_wraith, install caffeine? i haven't used it but it sounds like it'd fit |
| 03:48.54 | c_wraith | Heh. I use an app by that name on my phone. |
| 03:49.04 | c_wraith | I'll check it out |
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| 03:49.46 | brian|lfs | interesting app name |
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| 04:17.26 | GPenguin | hello. is there a site that lists all debian related rss feeds? |
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| 04:28.52 | NotAutistic | until the one who banned me on #debian-offtopic is ready to answer my appeal, instead of ignoring me, I will have to be offtopic in this not-offtopic channel |
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| 04:29.19 | veek | is there a way to reinstall jessie |
| 04:29.29 | veek | without losing my data |
| 04:29.46 | NotAutistic | so, I can evade bans, but I prefer to try appealing. If I cannot even speak to the op who banned me, or any other ops willing to consider an appeal, I have no other choice |
| 04:30.06 | NotAutistic | warms up his magical ban-evasion powers |
| 04:30.18 | c_wraith | veek: easiest approach is to back up ~ and then do a wipe & install |
| 04:30.19 | veek | heh |
| 04:30.33 | veek | c_wraith, i'm short of disks and space :( |
| 04:30.52 | c_wraith | veek: historically, this is why there's an option to put /home in a different partition than the OS |
| 04:31.04 | jordanm | veek: no, not unless your data is stored on partitions separate from the OS |
| 04:31.09 | veek | c_wraith, i can move root out of the way though |
| 04:31.11 | c_wraith | (which is of no use after the fact) |
| 04:31.18 | veek | ah hmm.. darn |
| 04:32.21 | c_wraith | Oh hey, back to my previous question. I wasn't happy with caffeine, but I found that the xfce4-power-manager app has a tray applet with a "presentation mode" option that does what I want. Good enough! |
| 04:34.04 | NotAtAllAutistic | !ops jordanm hates me |
| 04:34.05 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: notatallautistic complains about: jordanm hates me |
| 04:34.27 | NotAtAllAutistic | wow, that is a rather simple bot response |
| 04:34.35 | NotAtAllAutistic | why not PM the ops instead? |
| 04:34.50 | NotAtAllAutistic | or ping them in #debian-ops |
| 04:35.02 | c_wraith | because most people respond faster to a highlight |
| 04:35.45 | NotAtAllAutistic | yes, but highlight them in an ops channel |
| 04:36.05 | NotAtAllAutistic | or it opens the door to use !ops to multi-line spam when ops are all AFK |
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| 04:38.09 | NotVeryAutistic | jordanm: that ban is laughable (in #debian-offtopic) |
| 04:38.20 | NotVeryAutistic | My VPN has many servers |
| 04:38.24 | NotVeryAutistic | in unrelated ranges |
| 04:38.49 | NotVeryAutistic | I do not wish to evade |
| 04:38.55 | sekrit | NotVeryAutistic: then don't |
| 04:39.02 | NotVeryAutistic | but, if there is no appeal process, I will |
| 04:39.11 | NotVeryAutistic | I did nothing to warrant a ban |
| 04:39.18 | WormFood | that's actually a ban that is more likely to catch random, innocent, users |
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| 04:41.50 | WormFood | I want to have multiple diskless clients, running a shared debian install. I remember seeing instructions and details on how to do this, but I haven't been able to find them again. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 04:44.39 | jordanm | WormFood: NFS root? |
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| 04:45.38 | WormFood | yeah, with a shared install of debian. So some mounts would be common to all hosts, and read-only, and then each host would get it's own writable mount point, for other directories (like /var and /tmp) |
| 04:46.22 | markybob | !debirf |
| 04:46.23 | dpkg | debirf (DEBian on Initial Ram Filesystem) is a system for creating diskless kernel/initramfs images, which boot entirely into RAM and provide a fully functional Debian system. Packaged for Squeeze. http://cmrg.fifthhorseman.net/wiki/debirf #debirf on irc.oftc.net. |
| 04:46.41 | WormFood | that's not what I'm talking about. |
| 04:47.01 | jordanm | !ltsp |
| 04:47.01 | dpkg | i heard ltsp is the Linux Terminal Server Project. http://wiki.debian.org/LTSP http://www.ltsp.org/ #ltsp on irc.freenode.net. |
| 04:47.09 | WormFood | I don't want it running out of ram. I want it to operate like normal, over the network, just minimizing, and making common what I can/ |
| 04:47.36 | jordanm | ltsp perhaps, otherwise a standard netboot/nfs root setup |
| 04:47.41 | WormFood | I don't think ltsp was it either, but I'll double check. |
| 04:48.26 | jordanm | with ltsp you are actually accessing X11 on a remote host. with NFS root things are running locally with storage on a remote host |
| 04:48.34 | jordanm | so basically thin client vs thick client |
| 04:48.49 | WormFood | yeah, I want nfs root. A thick client. |
| 04:49.43 | WormFood | it doesn't take up so much space, that having 2 entire installs is a problem...now...and it probably will never be a problem...I just hate to waste space, and I forget the details of how to do it. |
| 04:51.08 | jordanm | multiple hosts can share a single install with root mounted as NFS. there are some gotchas to that, but I don't recall all the details |
| 04:51.31 | jordanm | I have worked at places that used that type of setup for servers and workstations |
| 04:51.35 | WormFood | there are quite a few gotchas actually. |
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| 04:52.11 | WormFood | you can't mount one mount point for multiple hosts. Like, /etc should be read-only, and common, but /var should be unique to each host. |
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| 04:52.35 | WormFood | There are specific directories that can't (or shouldn't) be shared. |
| 04:53.18 | jordanm | WormFood: according to the FHS, /var should be unique, but really it doesn't have to be if you can work around some of the issues that arise from doing so |
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| 04:53.41 | jordanm | WormFood: like symlinking the ntp directory to something local |
| 04:53.55 | jordanm | and configuring all your applications to not use /var for data storage |
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| 05:13.50 | veek | how do i figure out the PCIe version i'm running |
| 05:13.55 | veek | 1,2,3? |
| 05:15.29 | rozie | take a look? |
| 05:16.17 | WilliamDotAT | not visible in kernel iirc |
| 05:17.34 | veek | rozie, how exactly great one |
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| 05:21.49 | rozie | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PCI_Express |
| 05:22.11 | rozie | veek: there's nice photo there which explains the difference |
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| 05:22.52 | Haxxa | Although its bad practise - do ubuntu ppa generally work in debian? |
| 05:23.02 | SirLagz | Haxxa: assume no |
| 05:23.42 | veek | rozie, http://superuser.com/questions/693964/can-i-find-out-if-pci-e-slot-is-1-0-2-0-or-3-0-in-linux-terminal |
| 05:24.27 | rozie | :) |
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| 05:25.39 | markybob | WilliamDotAT, veek why not just lspci -vv |grep PCI and then google the chipset specs? i just did that and found my intel c210 has 2 |
| 05:26.03 | markybob | veek, oh nice |
| 05:26.08 | Haxxa | SirLagz, I have my nice vm setup and I don't want to have to reinstall to ubuntu just so updates work - I could get it to compile every time I guess but thats exhausting |
| 05:26.10 | SirLagz | personally I'd just look up the motherboard, but that's me lol |
| 05:26.22 | SirLagz | Haxxa: what are you running in the vm? |
| 05:26.28 | WilliamDotAT | hard to figure out board if it's a server though |
| 05:26.42 | WilliamDotAT | some just identify like mine |
| 05:26.49 | SirLagz | WilliamDotAT: that's true |
| 05:26.53 | WilliamDotAT | "Intel Corporation Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor PCI Express Root Port" |
| 05:26.55 | Haxxa | SirLagz, Deluge currently on outdated version 1.3.11 and need to be on 1.3.12 |
| 05:26.57 | WilliamDotAT | not very informative lol |
| 05:27.07 | WilliamDotAT | also cool |
| 05:27.12 | WilliamDotAT | because its actually an i7 |
| 05:27.23 | HAL2328 | some good info on PPAs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them |
| 05:27.34 | SirLagz | Haxxa: so are you running Debian but wnat a newer version of deluge? |
| 05:27.56 | markybob | WilliamDotAT, rev 2. that easy. google |
| 05:27.58 | Haxxa | SirLagz, yes and I want it to stay up to date with latest version |
| 05:28.05 | WilliamDotAT | markybob, i know |
| 05:28.09 | WilliamDotAT | it's gen 3 |
| 05:28.11 | SirLagz | Haxxa: ah right. is hte newest 1.3.12? |
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| 05:28.15 | SirLagz | ,v deluge |
| 05:28.16 | judd | Package: deluge on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.2.3+git20110209.8c36830-0squeeze1; wheezy: 1.3.3-2+nmu1; sid: 1.3.10-3; jessie: 1.3.10-3; stretch: 1.3.10-3 |
| 05:28.16 | Haxxa | SirLagz, yes |
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| 05:28.30 | SirLagz | not even sid has 1.3.12, damn |
| 05:28.49 | Haxxa | SirLagz, It only came out last night |
| 05:29.02 | markybob | WilliamDotAT, intel's site says two. http://ark.intel.com/products/52269/Intel-Xeon-Processor-E3-1220-8M-Cache-3_10-GHz |
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| 05:29.09 | Haxxa | But yes I need latest version so I guess I will need to compile from source |
| 05:29.18 | SirLagz | Haxxa: out of curiosity, why do you want the latest version? |
| 05:29.39 | WilliamDotAT | markybob, it's an i7-3770 |
| 05:29.44 | WilliamDotAT | no idea why it identifies as E3 |
| 05:29.48 | Haxxa | SirLagz, The trackers I download from penalise using outdated versions of torrent clients |
| 05:29.51 | SirLagz | Haxxa: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Installing/Linux/Debian/Wheezy <-- Debian seems to be able to just use apt...maybe just add their apt repo |
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| 05:30.23 | Haxxa | SirLagz, I'm on jessie |
| 05:30.26 | SirLagz | Haxxa: if the vendor can say that you can use the PPA repo, you could try it |
| 05:30.45 | SirLagz | Haxxa: no matter. The repo they're pointing apt to is the same as the PPA repo |
| 05:30.58 | Haxxa | ok thanks |
| 05:31.06 | SirLagz | Haxxa: but if it breaks, you get to keep both pieces :P |
| 05:32.01 | Haxxa | SirLagz, I want 100% stability with bleeding edge software and no issues ever |
| 05:32.13 | Haxxa | ;) |
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| 05:32.46 | Haxxa | Is - sudo add-apt-repository ppa:deluge-team/ppa prefered or add-apt-repository 'deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/deluge-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main' |
| 05:33.36 | SirLagz | I always do it manually...but that's me |
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| 05:36.26 | mi11k1 | sorry not debian per say, but im using dnsmasq as dhcp server, how do i get the 2 networks to see eachother ? |
| 05:36.40 | mi11k1 | sorry, 2 nic cards aswell |
| 05:37.57 | SirLagz | mi11k1: set up routing between the 2 networks |
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| 05:38.27 | mi11k1 | SirLagz: where though? iptables? |
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| 05:40.22 | SirLagz | mi11k1: what do you mean where? |
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| 05:40.59 | mi11k1 | SirLagz: where do I enable that? i dont know much about networking |
| 05:41.25 | SirLagz | mi11k1: have you googled? It's been a while since I've done it |
| 05:41.31 | SirLagz | mi11k1: you could use iptables |
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| 05:41.53 | mi11k1 | SirLagz: im just having a brain fart and feel like im forgetting something easy |
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| 05:42.33 | SirLagz | mi11k1: http://www.tecmint.com/setup-linux-as-router/ <-- have a read of that maybe? |
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| 05:44.19 | markybob | mi11k1, in particular "Example 3: Using a Linux server to route packets between two private networks" |
| 05:44.34 | markybob | mi11k1, which is what i assume you want |
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| 06:27.27 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 06:34.20 | gasull | I'm doing a full-upgrade from wheezy to jessie and aptitude is asking me about many options than involve removing tons of packages. How can I say no to all the options that imply removing packages? Or is there a better way to do this? |
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| 06:55.21 | gasull | Found the way |
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| 07:05.39 | FiendKing04 | Hello. I have an issue that has been going on for some time now (weeks/months). I have a VPS, and perhaps that's why I can't find much information about it on Google, but it keeps losing its access to the outside Internet when the VPS restarts. I just finally got it fixed earlier when my host gave it a new IP address, but they restarted the VPS and now it's not working again. /etc/network/interfaces |
| 07:05.40 | FiendKing04 | looks OK, but ifconfig -a and the one that shows the IP route shows no routes.. at all. Like I said, I've been Googling for hours with different search terms, and all of them have to do with changing the settings based on your router's settings, but that's not exactly something I can access since it's a VPS. Anyone have any ideas? |
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| 07:07.30 | FiendKing04 | Another thing that is odd is that it's running a very minimal startup when it restarts. It's running systemd now instead of initd, if that makes a difference. Basically all that starts up is systemd and bash. I have to log into my VPS' control panel online, start a serial console, go in that way, start SSHd, and then I'm able to SSHd in normally and start up everything else (Apache, MySQL, |
| 07:07.30 | FiendKing04 | etc.) and avoid using root. Could this have anything to do with why the networking keeps getting messed up? |
| 07:08.10 | gasull | 1aTCsehdsf&epcm. |
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| 07:12.21 | northstar | FiendKing04, i'd just look for a better host. |
| 07:12.40 | FiendKing04 | Well, it seems to be fixed. |
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| 07:13.02 | FiendKing04 | I submitted another ticket and they went and fixed it. I'd just really like to know what they did to fix it, and why it keeps messing up on restart. |
| 07:13.20 | FiendKing04 | And I've had them for two years, going on three, and this last two months has been the only issues I've had. |
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| 08:23.05 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 08:23.16 | tite12345 | How do I properly install Virtualbox? |
| 08:23.33 | tite12345 | I know I could just install one from the Virtualbox website but something |
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| 08:23.58 | tite12345 | something is telling me that there's a proper way of doing it such as perhaps adding a line or two in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 08:24.08 | tite12345 | Is this it? https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox |
| 08:24.31 | planetmaker | sudo apt-get install virtualbox |
| 08:24.36 | Mathisen | tite12345, https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox |
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| 08:27.53 | tite12345 | Mathisen: Isn't that the link I just showed? :) |
| 08:28.08 | tite12345 | planetmaker: This? https://wiki.debian.org/VirtualBox#Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 |
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| 08:32.45 | Groggy | tite12345: If you have Jessie, yes. But just virtualbox will work as the rest is dependencies |
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| 08:35.20 | Platypo | Hello! I need help setting up sound in debian8/kde. Can anybody recommend any good documentation? |
| 08:36.43 | MrDoctor | You can read the Archwiki entry for ALSA, Platypo. |
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| 08:38.33 | MrDoctor | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture |
| 08:38.59 | MrDoctor | And also https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio |
| 08:39.02 | Platypo | thx. Is it of matter that i recently downloaded pulseaudio? |
| 08:39.05 | Platypo | ok |
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| 08:43.16 | Platypo | would you recommend adding each user on debian 8 to add to audio group in general? |
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| 09:27.13 | placko | Which VOIP program can I use to talk with people using Windows? |
| 09:27.26 | JonathanD | zoiper. |
| 09:27.31 | JonathanD | Well |
| 09:27.40 | JonathanD | Depends on what you are actually asking I guess. |
| 09:30.10 | placko | JonathanD: Well, I am using Debian 8, my friend has Windows 7 and I am looking for program to install on my computer and one for his computer so that we can talk (with video enabled too, if possible) |
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| 09:30.22 | fuzzhead | can zoiper make calls to skype? |
| 09:30.27 | pkv | chatroulette =p |
| 09:30.38 | JonathanD | zoiper is a softphone. |
| 09:30.48 | JonathanD | So it needs an intermediary to connect things. |
| 09:30.52 | JonathanD | But I use it all the time, myself. |
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| 09:34.08 | placko | Is there a debian package for zoipe? |
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| 09:34.27 | ooxi | Hi I want to package my software for debian. It consits of about 10 MiB platform independend data and executables for x86 and amd64 with a couple of hundred KiB each. While the data stays roughly the same for quite some time (changes are expected every year or so) the binaries might change more frequently (every other month). Should I split my software into to packages (one per binary target and a data package with plattform all)? |
| 09:35.06 | JonathanD | placko: there's a .deb |
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| 09:38.57 | muawija | ooxi: yes, I think you should split it |
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| 09:39.14 | ooxi | thanks @muawija I thought so, too |
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| 10:17.50 | NoirLess | morning. Today im started my system and smthing ate 96% of cpu. "top" shows me, its tracker-ex+. What is it? Cuz i had no problems at previous starts |
| 10:19.19 | break3r | tracker-ex search in google is "Where is my boyfriend tracker" :D |
| 10:19.30 | NoirLess | :D |
| 10:20.17 | break3r | do you speak spanish? |
| 10:20.23 | NoirLess | no, sorry |
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| 10:20.48 | break3r | ok, it seems to be a program called tracker-extract |
| 10:21.04 | NoirLess | anyways, i found already - its one of gnome's processes and its may eats cpu at start |
| 10:21.18 | break3r | k then |
| 10:21.57 | NoirLess | only strange thing is "why i had no problems with it before?" cuz there wasnt gnome updates at stable last days... maybe cuz i removed evolution... |
| 10:22.05 | NoirLess | anyways - ty for help) |
| 10:22.38 | break3r | you're welcome, good luck finding a solution |
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| 10:26.00 | placko | asdf |
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| 11:10.17 | Moarderp | Hey |
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| 11:14.24 | XeonSquared | So if I want an IRC bridge for my XMPP server running on Debian Jessie, what should I be using? |
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| 11:47.29 | discovered | I am trying to set eth0 static IP on debian by editing /etc/network/interfaces. But the ip never change. After restarting networking service i don't see the eth0 interface anymore. My modified interface file: http://pastebin.com/vYDS7xZ1 |
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| 11:49.16 | break3r | i've got a allow-hotplug eth0 line |
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| 11:50.28 | break3r | but as far as I know that doesn't explain why eth0 isn't shown anymore |
| 11:51.03 | discovered | If i go back to default file then it is fine |
| 11:51.13 | discovered | i am using debian 8 |
| 11:51.20 | break3r | so do i |
| 11:52.18 | break3r | what's the difference between both files? in std file there's "allow-hotplug eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp"? |
| 11:52.25 | g00se | discovered: restart whatever gave it the dynamic IP before |
| 11:52.38 | discovered | ah adding hotplug eth0 |
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| 11:53.34 | g00se | ifconfig -a |
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| 11:54.37 | discovered | g00se, http://pastebin.com/gxBFbfTn |
| 11:54.39 | jelly | dpkg, tell discovered about interfaces |
| 11:55.33 | jelly | discovered: interfaces should be brought down and up using "ifdown eth0" and "ifup eth0", not by restarting the network service |
| 11:56.08 | jelly | networking* service |
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| 11:58.13 | g00se | So - it got the address you wanted as you can see |
| 11:59.33 | discovered | yes, only after adding allow-hotplug eth0 line then restarting the network service. I did not ifdown/ifup for this jell? |
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| 11:59.43 | g00se | jelly: fyi i meant the router, not the service |
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| 12:01.14 | jelly | discovered: again: restarting the networking service probably won't do what you want it do. use ifdown eth0, and ifup eth0 |
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| 12:07.11 | OnkelTem | I'm building gearman on Debian 7, and it requires boostlib > 1.39, so what package should I install? |
| 12:07.44 | OnkelTem | `apt-cache search libboost` lists too many packages :) |
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| 12:08.18 | OnkelTem | libboost-all-dev? But isn't that sorta too much? :) |
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| 12:10.26 | OnkelTem | or if a program requires just 'boostlib >= 1.39' then I really have to install everything from boost? |
| 12:10.59 | OnkelTem | (it is 87Mb for mere download) |
| 12:11.28 | afidegnum | good morning all, i just installed virtuanenv and created a working folder with it. what's' the file representing the python executable in virtualenv? |
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| 12:12.19 | afidegnum | i m using debian |
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| 12:13.29 | aptgetrescue | i am in rescue modus in vmware, internet ok, but there is no apt-get, how can i download apt-get? |
| 12:14.02 | afidegnum | any answer please? |
| 12:14.09 | jelly | aptgetrescue: mount your real root filesystem somehwere, chroot into it and you'll have apt-get there |
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| 12:14.55 | aptgetrescue | do you have an example for this? |
| 12:15.04 | jelly | aptgetrescue: can you show a screenshot with "mount" and "lsblk" command outputs, for a start? |
| 12:16.05 | aptgetrescue | not for lsblk but for mount |
| 12:16.26 | g00se | /usr/bin/virtualenv ? |
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| 12:18.39 | jelly | aptgetrescue: which debian release is this supposed to be? |
| 12:19.19 | aptgetrescue | i configured fdisk false so i have no usr , i believe |
| 12:19.44 | aptgetrescue | wheezy |
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| 12:20.45 | jelly | aptgetrescue: so... you have a separate /usr partition? |
| 12:21.38 | aptgetrescue | my fdisk inputs isnt ok, so now i want delete all |
| 12:21.48 | aptgetrescue | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1 ist this ok |
| 12:21.52 | jelly | aptgetrescue: to confirm, in addition to "mount", also show your "cat /etc/fstab" |
| 12:22.22 | jelly | aptgetrescue: sorry. You're jumping from one issue to another. Does this mean you don't care about the old OS and you want to nuke it completely? |
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| 12:23.07 | aptgetrescue | yes |
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| 12:23.27 | aptgetrescue | it this possible |
| 12:23.42 | jelly | aptgetrescue: then yes, something like "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda count=1 bs=4096" will do. |
| 12:24.05 | jelly | this is not undoable, you'll basically lose everything |
| 12:24.10 | aptgetrescue | debian rescue - fdisk problems - now i want delete all - then i want apt-get to install parted |
| 12:24.39 | jelly | aptgetrescue: if you delete the partition you will have to reinstall the whole system. |
| 12:24.45 | jelly | forget apt-get or parted |
| 12:26.25 | aptgetrescue | ok i install a new debian, vmware - disk netinst.io - then recovery ist that ok? |
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| 12:27.03 | jelly | aptgetrescue: so choose carefully what you want to do next, either "mount /usr", or wipe the partition table and reinstall everything |
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| 12:44.52 | otyugh | why is there no entry doing "man read" ? |
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| 12:45.53 | jelly | otyugh: read as in shell internal command, or read(2) the system call? |
| 12:46.53 | Muvlon | otyugh: I get read(2) when I type "man read" |
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| 12:48.01 | jelly | otyugh: shell: help read|less -- for bash, run-help read -- for zsh, or just "man whatever-your-interactive-shell-is" and find the documentation there. syscall: install manpages-dev |
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| 12:49.58 | otyugh | help read it is |
| 12:50.17 | otyugh | why is it separated from the usual man ? |
| 12:50.21 | otyugh | part of bash ? |
| 12:50.38 | Muvlon | yep |
| 12:50.57 | otyugh | got it. Thanks ! |
| 12:51.16 | jwd | anyone here using openvswitch? |
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| 13:08.36 | DammitJim | ok, I win for the most stupid question of the day. If I move a folder that has subfolders to another location where there are some files |
| 13:08.40 | DammitJim | the files won't be deleted, right? |
| 13:08.46 | DammitJim | I need some coffee... long night |
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| 13:17.19 | Filystyn | guys i need help i need to install debuginfo-install <glibc> |
| 13:17.45 | Filystyn | apt-get aint werkin |
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| 13:18.28 | Filystyn | HELLO |
| 13:18.29 | g00se | !doesn't work |
| 13:18.30 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 13:18.47 | jelly | Filystyn: calm your tits, and explain your goal |
| 13:19.10 | Filystyn | ok basicly to debug function from system library i need this packet |
| 13:19.16 | Filystyn | for my baby gdb |
| 13:19.26 | Filystyn | baby gdb will than be able to debug the system function |
| 13:19.38 | jelly | what's "baby gdb"? |
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| 13:21.23 | jelly | Filystyn: in debian, debug info is usually placed in packages that have app or library name with -dbg appended. So do something like "apt-cache search libc6 dbg" to find that |
| 13:21.31 | Filystyn | jelly baby gdb is the gdb debugger |
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| 13:22.29 | Filystyn | glibc not found |
| 13:22.50 | g00se | (Not what was suggested) |
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| 13:23.07 | Filystyn | ahh so i can get all the libs in one row ok... |
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| 13:23.42 | Filystyn | libc6 found |
| 13:23.46 | Filystyn | but why it's 6 ? |
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| 13:24.06 | jelly | Filystyn: because the previous major release was 5 |
| 13:24.24 | Filystyn | ok im installing it you helped me a lot thank you! |
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| 13:27.09 | g00se | ,pciid 8086:151f |
| 13:27.11 | judd | [8086:151f] is 'Unknown device' from 'Intel Corporation' with kernel modules 'ata_generic', 'snd-hda-intel' in jessie. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=8086:151f |
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| 13:43.28 | Mohamed_DZ | How can I mount partitions without password every login? |
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| 13:48.34 | Mohamed_DZ | no one! |
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| 13:50.03 | jelly | Mohamed_DZ: what do you mean without password? |
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| 13:52.07 | Mohamed_DZ | jelly: when I click on partition, I should enter password "permission" every login |
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| 13:52.27 | droopy_ | If I want to restart sftp, do I simply need to remove the line from sshd_config and re-add it? |
| 13:52.41 | Mohamed_DZ | NTFS partition |
| 13:54.57 | colo-work | droopy_, sftp is not a persistent service. its executable gets exec(2)'d by sshd if the ssh session requests that subsystem. |
| 13:55.04 | colo-work | droopy_, what is the problem you are looking to solve? |
| 13:55.41 | droopy_ | I am trying to download my project in PHPStorm, but when it tried to download over SFTP it says: |
| 13:55.42 | droopy_ | failed to transfer file 'wireframes.scssc': channel is not opened |
| 13:56.13 | colo-work | droopy_, do CLI sftp sessions between the hosts you're trying this with work? |
| 13:56.16 | droopy_ | The project is hosted on a debian serer |
| 13:57.03 | droopy_ | I'm not familiar with CLI sftp sessions. Let me research and tryt |
| 13:57.23 | droopy_ | I can SSH in |
| 13:57.41 | colo-work | instead of `ssh user@host`, try `sftp user@host` - does that work? |
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| 13:57.55 | colo-work | if not, the remote server may have the sftp subsystem disabled. |
| 13:58.28 | droopy_ | I checked the remote server's sshd_config file. SFTP is in there |
| 13:58.44 | droopy_ | That would mean that the sftp subsystem is good to go? |
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| 14:12.04 | disconnecht | what am i missing here guys? -- http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=MvHdUmua |
| 14:12.05 | zhl | планиÑÑÐµÑ Ð¾Ð±ÑебоÑиÑÑÑÑ ÑÐµÐ³Ð¾Ð´Ð½Ñ Ð² Ñ
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| 14:13.41 | g00se | !debian-live |
| 14:13.41 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
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| 14:14.34 | disconnecht | oh, thanks g00se |
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| 14:14.35 | ivh | Hi. Is there a good way to figure out which dependency of the "scribus" package wants to pull in LibreOffice as well? (jessie) |
| 14:16.00 | ivh | Never mind, --no-install-recommends did the trick. |
| 14:16.17 | jhutchins | ivh: Excellent. |
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| 14:16.31 | jhutchins | ivh: LO would be a pretty rediculous dependency. |
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| 14:17.05 | ivh | jhutchins: indeed. |
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| 14:19.45 | centrx | Seems like a pretty ridiculous Recommends too, but I don't see it as a Recommends either? |
| 14:19.48 | centrx | on pdo |
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| 14:21.16 | ivh | centrx: I don't know how recursive that process is. If one of the depends has it as Recommend, will it get pulled? |
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| 14:21.48 | centrx | yes |
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| 14:27.55 | TomyWork | on wheezy, what's the equivalent of SLES11's "service network restart". I'm having trouble with the network interfaces on a VM when i go back to a snapshot. on sles, doing "service network restart" helps, but on wheezy "service networking restart" just freezes |
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| 14:30.21 | themill | TomyWork: networking isn't a daemon to restart; you just do what you actually want to do. |
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| 14:31.41 | _abc__ | What wheezy kernel is needed to boot on dual core amd athlon 64 4400 cpu? The live wheezy disk boots only in 486 mode |
| 14:31.50 | TomyWork | themill i dont know what the sles counterpart does, unfortunately |
| 14:31.50 | _abc__ | With 1 core |
| 14:32.03 | TomyWork | it might down+up all interfaces, it might not |
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| 14:32.41 | g00se | You can do just that on wheezy. If it hangs - you need to ask why |
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| 14:32.56 | TomyWork | it hangs because i'm in there via ssh |
| 14:33.07 | somiaj | _abc__: which wheeyz live image? |
| 14:33.10 | g00se | Well why do it then? |
| 14:33.19 | TomyWork | on sles, it works |
| 14:33.30 | g00se | !goal |
| 14:33.31 | dpkg | Describe your goal, not what you think the solution is. |
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| 14:33.59 | TomyWork | i'll try reading that sles daemon script to see what it does |
| 14:34.05 | jay_ | . |
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| 14:36.39 | TomyWork | hmm, it restarts something it calls NetworkManager |
| 14:36.51 | TomyWork | i don't think my wheezy box even has that |
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| 14:37.18 | themill | it can if you want, but that is still not a goal you are trying to achieve |
| 14:37.22 | _abc__ | Wheezy default live / install dvd |
| 14:38.00 | chozha | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:38.01 | TomyWork | themill the goal is to get "ping www.google.com" to work |
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| 14:38.45 | themill | "correctly configure networking" is the solution to that, not "restart networking" |
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| 14:39.32 | adac | ls |
| 14:39.32 | TomyWork | themill if by "configure" you mean modifying persistent configuration, you're wrong. networking breaks as soon as i tell virtualbox to suspend and resume the box |
| 14:39.43 | adac | does debian support upstart? |
| 14:40.25 | themill | TomyWork: how about you start with an actual problem description then rather than hoping we can guess it. |
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| 14:40.40 | jelly | adac: not really, it's present in the distro but there's little support by services |
| 14:41.00 | TomyWork | themill I have a Vagrantfile that uses a certain base box |
| 14:41.16 | adac | jelly, what shall be used in debian/raspbian instead if I may ask? |
| 14:41.20 | jelly | adac: if you need it, you can make it work yourself. There used to be some VPS vendors that used to default to upstart so apparently it was possible |
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| 14:41.44 | jelly | adac: systemd is default in Debian 8, and sysvinit is supported as well |
| 14:41.47 | TomyWork | on my previous machine, doing "vagrant up" with that vagrantfile gave me a wheezy box with some stuff in it and working networking. suspending and resuming the VM also did not impede networking |
| 14:42.02 | jelly | adac: that's for Debian. I have no idea about raspbian, ask in #raspbian channel |
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| 14:42.39 | adac | jelly, is systemd the one that uses the /etc/init.d/ scripts? |
| 14:42.41 | TomyWork | now on my machine, doing "vagrant up" with that vagrantfile gives me a wheezy box with some stuff in it and working networking. however, suspending and resuming the VM does (at least) break DNS resolution |
| 14:42.45 | northstar | _abc__, there are amd64 and i386 versions of the live install images. maybe you got the wrong one? |
| 14:42.50 | g00se | TomyWork: ping 216.58.209.238 |
| 14:42.55 | adac | jelly, kk I'll ask in rasbpian as well :) |
| 14:43.05 | TomyWork | g00se i can ping IPs fine |
| 14:43.09 | TomyWork | even the DNS server |
| 14:43.20 | g00se | Then your problem is 'DNS doesn't work' |
| 14:43.32 | TomyWork | yes |
| 14:43.53 | jelly | adac: sysvinit uses /etc/init.d/, systemd has backward compatibility with those as well, but is a bit picky |
| 14:43.56 | somiaj | TomyWork: check the contets of /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:43.57 | TomyWork | sorry, i was so used to working around the problem that i didnt think of fixing it :) |
| 14:44.16 | adac | jelly, thanks for the explanation! |
| 14:44.27 | somiaj | if it isn't getting set correctly you may have to check your network ocnfiguration or get a tool like resolvconf or openresolv to manage that file. |
| 14:44.33 | jelly | dpkg, tell adac about systemd |
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| 14:45.43 | TomyWork | somiaj domain and search have the same internal domain suffix i have on my host machine |
| 14:45.49 | TomyWork | and there's nameserver 192.168.169.3 |
| 14:46.21 | adac | jelly, looks like dpkg has moved to #raspbian too :) |
| 14:46.28 | TomyWork | i can ping 192.168.169.3 |
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| 14:47.20 | TomyWork | "nslookup www.google.com" and "nslookup www.google.com 192.168.169.3" both time out |
| 14:47.23 | adac | jelly, ah now dpkg wrote me a pm |
| 14:47.32 | jelly | adac: someone might have invited it there, maybe |
| 14:48.03 | themill | the bot is not in #raspbian |
| 14:48.23 | somiaj | TomyWork: well if you can ping the nameserver but don't actually get any responses for it, sounds more like it is the nameserver not responding and not an issue with the networking on the machine. |
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| 14:48.28 | adac | jelly, was just joking because he was as quiet as the whole #raspbian channel ;) |
| 14:48.49 | adac | themill, ^^ |
| 14:48.54 | TomyWork | somiaj 192.168.169.* is a virtualbox nat network |
| 14:49.37 | TomyWork | but i cant figure out if 192.168.169.3 is some virtual thing or my actual host machine |
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| 14:50.09 | TomyWork | ok, it is my actual host machine |
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| 14:51.29 | TomyWork | and it seems i have a dnsmasq running on that machine: "tcp 0 0 127.0.1.1:53 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1928/dnsmasq" |
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| 14:51.54 | TomyWork | does that mean it's only listening on 127.0.1.1 or on 0.0.0.0 (i.e. everything)? |
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| 14:52.19 | vamps | TomyWork: only 127.0.0.1 |
| 14:52.29 | TomyWork | so that might be a problem :) |
| 14:53.08 | TomyWork | okay another oddity: 192.168.169.* doesn't show up in my host machine's ifconfig |
| 14:53.45 | TomyWork | just em1, lo and an unrelated virtualbox host-only interface |
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| 14:58.31 | TomyWork | so i'm again not sure if it's some virtual thing or my actual host machine |
| 14:59.03 | TomyWork | some of my host services are behind it but not all of them |
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| 15:00.18 | TomyWork | is there a way to look up a host name via tcp? |
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| 15:01.17 | abrotman | TomyWork: what do you have to look it up with? |
| 15:01.19 | _abc__ | Sorry got disconnected |
| 15:01.30 | TomyWork | i have nslookup and dig |
| 15:01.36 | abrotman | and what data do you have? |
| 15:01.48 | abrotman | IP? Hostname? MAC? |
| 15:01.57 | TomyWork | the hostname i want to look up and the name server ip |
| 15:03.04 | TomyWork | since i have a tcp-based service that works through this interface (http) and a udp-based service that doesn't (dns), i thought i'd try to poke the dns server via tcp |
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| 15:04.15 | TomyWork | "dig www.google.com 192.168.169.3 +tcp" gives me a timeout as well :/ |
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| 15:05.22 | TomyWork | oh, that's not the way to specify name servers with dig... hold on |
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| 15:08.08 | TomyWork | timeout with "dig @192.168.169.3 +tcp www.google.com" as well :/ |
| 15:08.17 | TomyWork | is that the correct invocation? |
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| 15:08.47 | TomyWork | 192.168.169.3 being the name server, www.google.com being the name i want to look up |
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| 15:11.05 | TomyWork | iptables -L shows no rules on the host or guest |
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| 15:14.36 | changnesia | Hey guys, would help me with scripting? (Or point me to an active IRC channgel that would be more suitable?) |
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| 15:15.05 | abrotman | changnesia: in what language? |
| 15:15.14 | changnesia | abrotman: bash |
| 15:15.21 | abrotman | TomyWork: your ISP may block external queries |
| 15:15.25 | abrotman | changnesia: oddly, #bash |
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| 15:15.52 | changnesia | stupid me, should've thought about that. Thanks! |
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| 15:26.46 | TomyWork | abrotman what do you mean external queries? 192.168.169.3 is a non-routed address and i can resolve via the company DNS server fine. it's just that vagrant/virtualbox doesnt set that one up, but that silly virtual thing that doesnt work |
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| 15:28.52 | TomyWork | i'm not sure which one sets it up, because vagrant imports the VM from some internal format and does its setting up immediately |
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| 15:29.23 | laidback_01 | well... not true. 'dig' will be making an external call. at least 192.168.169.3 will be hitting the root servers to do a lookup - assuming it's not cached. |
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| 15:30.38 | TomyWork | laidback_01 i'm not quite sure how DNS works |
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| 15:31.37 | TomyWork | does my VM send a UDP packet to its configured nameserver, then that sends it further up until it finally reaches a server up the chain that has an answer and only then does the first name server even answer? |
| 15:31.38 | laidback_01 | yeah, I was just pointing out that you said it wouldn't be doig an ext query, that's not true. |
| 15:31.58 | laidback_01 | yeah, tcpdump your firewall log as it's working |
| 15:32.06 | TomyWork | what firewall? |
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| 15:32.22 | koollman | TomyWork: yes. but there is caching going on so the next time, it only goes to the configured nameserver and back |
| 15:32.31 | laidback_01 | oh, well, if you don't have one, you are missing out on an invaluable tool, but I digress. |
| 15:32.31 | greycat | TomyWork: applications that use the resolver library (e.g. ping) will send a request to the first nameserver listed in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 15:32.44 | TomyWork | koollman but it times out the first and all subsequent times |
| 15:32.57 | TomyWork | ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached |
| 15:33.02 | koollman | TomyWork: well if it cannot succeed once, there's nothing to put in cache |
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| 15:33.49 | TomyWork | koollman i might be naive, but if the caching name server cannot reach the upstream name server, should it not reply with an error instead of just timing out? |
| 15:33.49 | laidback_01 | oh... well you don't have a DNS server on 192.168.169.3 then |
| 15:34.06 | laidback_01 | try to telnet 192.168.169.3 53 and see if you get a respons or it times out. |
| 15:34.20 | greycat | Telnet uses TCP, not UDP. |
| 15:34.22 | koollman | TomyWork: 'no servers could be reached' probably means the configured nameserver cannot be reached either |
| 15:34.29 | laidback_01 | gah, right |
| 15:34.30 | laidback_01 | sorry |
| 15:34.46 | koollman | well, the dns should also answer on tcp 53 :) |
| 15:34.53 | TomyWork | but it doesn't :) |
| 15:34.54 | laidback_01 | I use djbdns and always include the TCP extensions (just incase), I forget about UDP bing the main thing |
| 15:34.57 | greycat | "Reached" is a strange way to say it. What it means is no response was received. |
| 15:35.38 | laidback_01 | use nmap to scan that server on port 53 UDP and see if you get an OK or not. |
| 15:35.38 | TomyWork | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection timed out |
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| 15:36.06 | TomyWork | laidback_01 uh, how do i do that without freaking out the network admins? :) |
| 15:36.14 | greycat | If you can't ping your nameserver by IP, then use one that you *can*. |
| 15:36.16 | laidback_01 | go to the machine in question - 169.3, run netstat -an |
| 15:36.22 | laidback_01 | go to the machine in question - 169.3, run netstat -an | grep 53 |
| 15:36.22 | TomyWork | greycat i can ping it |
| 15:36.24 | laidback_01 | see what you get |
| 15:36.45 | greycat | So, ping "$ip" works, but dig @"$ip" A www.google.com fails? |
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| 15:36.56 | TomyWork | yes |
| 15:36.57 | laidback_01 | TomyWork: well, I wasn't saying use nmap across the network, just run it on th eone machine |
| 15:37.08 | greycat | Then there is a firewall of some kind blocking the UDP packets. |
| 15:37.14 | laidback_01 | you can specifically target a single machine without issue. |
| 15:37.18 | TomyWork | wget 192.168.169.3 -O - gives me the default page from my local web server |
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| 15:37.28 | TomyWork | on my host machine |
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| 15:37.58 | TomyWork | greycat no iptables rules on host or guest |
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| 15:38.41 | TomyWork | hmm maybe some of you have missed this earlier: the machine with the network problems is a vagrant VM (virtualbox provider) and the network problems only appear after suspending and resuming the machine |
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| 15:38.47 | TomyWork | prior to that, it works fine |
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| 15:38.58 | laidback_01 | oh, well don't do that then |
| 15:38.59 | greycat | That sounds significant. |
| 15:39.06 | laidback_01 | yeah, I missed that. |
| 15:39.27 | TomyWork | the same things worked on my previous machine |
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| 15:39.31 | laidback_01 | after resuming, can you restart the network? |
| 15:39.49 | veek | is there a way to run a script using autofs and then mount |
| 15:39.59 | TomyWork | laidback_01 restart how? |
| 15:40.06 | greycat | The whole point of autofs is that it mounts stuff FOR you. |
| 15:40.10 | TomyWork | "service networking restart" seems to cut the SSH connection |
| 15:40.30 | TomyWork | i.e. it just stops at some point and doesnt react to ctrl-c/d |
| 15:40.32 | laidback_01 | well, there are things that make sure ssh reconnects as well |
| 15:40.58 | laidback_01 | can't recall them, but wow, this is becoming a heck of a band-aid already |
| 15:41.04 | TomyWork | yep |
| 15:41.06 | laidback_01 | better read in the logs what it's got to say |
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| 15:41.51 | TomyWork | which logs? |
| 15:43.04 | TomyWork | ssh, dns server, virtualbox |
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| 15:44.56 | TomyWork | hmm one thing i didnt try yet |
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| 15:45.40 | TomyWork | "vagrant reload" the VM and see what's different. for instance if the 192.168.169.* interface appears on the host |
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| 15:50.53 | jtheuer | Hi, I want to setup a ssh login with a simple (central) user management. I thought about AuthorizedKeysCommand + pam_mkhomedir missing piece is that the user isn't known to the system. Can I also specify the command to check if a user exists? |
| 15:51.09 | phy1729 | I think you want LDAP |
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| 15:52.38 | jtheuer | phy1729, Yes LDAP would be possible. I'm just looking for a simpler solution because I don't want to setup a central LDAP server |
| 15:52.44 | jpalmer | jtheuer: maybe look at FreeIPA.org |
| 15:52.54 | pragomer1 | hi. how to install debian 8.2 netinstall in uefi mode? I think it is correct that when my win8 is installed in uefi mode I have to install debian dual boot in uefi mode too, right? |
| 15:52.57 | jtheuer | Well, I don't want to *maintain* a central LDAP server |
| 15:53.25 | quantic | jtheuer: So, you want central user management, without a central server? |
| 15:53.29 | greycat | pragomer1: If windows *boots* using UEFI then yes, you want to run the Debian installer in UEFI mode so that it installs grub-efi. |
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| 15:53.39 | jpalmer | jtheuer: exactly why freeIPA exists :p nobody *wants* to maintain ldap :P |
| 15:53.49 | jtheuer | Ideally I would put the user credential in S3 (or an existing http server), quantic |
| 15:54.00 | pragomer1 | yes windows boots using uefi... so how do I run debian installer UEFI mode? |
| 15:54.50 | greycat | pragomer1: that's dependent on the system's firmware. On the machines I have experience with, the CD boots in UEFI mode by default, and you have to poke at the boot menu if you want it to boot in "legacy" mode. |
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| 15:55.46 | hstl | greycat, you are a bad person |
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| 15:56.24 | jtheuer | Which part/module of PAM does the user-existence check? |
| 15:57.13 | pragomer1 | does the netinstall iso also boot automatically in uefi mode? I dont think so... every other distro (e.g. *buntus) switch to uefi ... |
| 15:57.27 | jack33 | Hello everyone. I have several repos in my list, pinned, with different priorities. I installed something with "aptitude install package/testing". Now that package was updated in the repo, but I find no way to get the updated version myself. Do I need a minimum priority to be able to update? |
| 15:57.42 | greycat | I only use netinstall. So yes. In my experience, on the machines I have used, yes. It does. |
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| 15:57.59 | TomyWork | laidback_01 https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/blob/v1.6.5/plugins/guests/debian/cap/configure_networks.rb ok so this is what vagrant does to the networking. can you spot anything related to name resolution there? i can't |
| 15:58.03 | greycat | Your machine may be different, I have no idea. |
| 15:58.06 | pragomer1 | how do I recognize what mode the installer is in? |
| 15:58.22 | pragomer1 | the problem is.. |
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| 15:58.34 | greycat | That's a very good question. I know the initial screen of the installer looks different between the two modes but I can't tell you off the top of my head precisely what the difference is. |
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| 15:58.40 | pragomer1 | I installed debian.. and put the grub bootloader to root-partition... not to mbr |
| 15:59.01 | pragomer1 | I thought I could add it analogue to "easybcd".. but this did not work.. |
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| 15:59.14 | pragomer1 | should I have put the grub to the efi-boot-partition? |
| 15:59.40 | pragomer1 | yes.. this different look I know only from ubuntu.. |
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| 15:59.58 | dasabhi | hello i am currently trying to compile git, i keep getting this error that says expat.h cannot be found |
| 16:00.10 | dasabhi | i even tried using sudo apt-get install expat |
| 16:00.17 | dasabhi | but it still doesnt fix the problem |
| 16:00.23 | greycat | I don't have any clue why anybody ever puts grub ANYWHERE but at the start of the disk. This "install it in a partition" stuff never made the least bit of sense to me. |
| 16:00.30 | dasabhi | any one know a fix? |
| 16:00.44 | greycat | dasabhi: header files are usually in -dev packages |
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| 16:00.57 | pragomer1 | is it non-problematic to install it to mbr in an uefi-setup? |
| 16:01.05 | TomyWork | laidback_01 https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant/blob/v1.6.5/templates/guests/debian/network_static.erb that's the template it's including |
| 16:01.05 | dasabhi | greycat: so should i use sudo apt-get install expat-dev? |
| 16:01.12 | pragomer1 | in a legacy setup I always put grub to mbr |
| 16:01.20 | greycat | dasabhi: whatever the package name is. I would have to look it up with apt-cache search --names-only expat dev |
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| 16:02.06 | laidback_01 | TomyWork: I'm well out of my depth... I can spell Vagrant, but that's about it. |
| 16:02.07 | pragomer1 | greycat: do you think it would be a good idead to use "supergrubdisk" to boot debian and run "grub-install /dev/sda" ? |
| 16:02.08 | ghormoon | hi, is it possible to tell apt that it should download particular package from nonstandard repo (and don't overWrite from official if updated sooner)? (even better, if there was a tool to automatically rebuild a package with patch, though that I can do manually at last in the begining) |
| 16:02.34 | greycat | pragomer1: if you're able to boot debian at all, check to see whether it has installed grub-pc or grub-efi |
| 16:02.54 | pragomer1 | ok, how can I check that? |
| 16:03.01 | greycat | err, I guess it's actually grub-efi-amd64 |
| 16:03.24 | greycat | I used "dpkg -l | grep grub" |
| 16:03.30 | jordanm | !tell ghormoon about pinning |
| 16:03.36 | pragomer1 | ok.. I try it.. rebooting... bye |
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| 16:05.56 | jack33 | !tell jack33 about pinning |
| 16:06.42 | jordanm | !tell jack33 about msg the bot |
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| 16:07.31 | jack33 | :-) |
| 16:07.36 | ghormoon | jordanm: hm, shoud I then name my repo somehow else than stable and pin it to that? (so if it's updated in my locap repo, it updates, but doesn't update if updated on official ones)? |
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| 16:10.57 | TomyWork | laidback_01 hmm, do you mind playing occams razor? :) |
| 16:11.43 | TomyWork | if i suspend and resume a VM and the dns resolution is gone, then do "sudo reboot" and it's back again, who is at fault? debian, vagrant or virtualbox? |
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| 16:13.01 | laidback_01 | I'm thinking that the problem is with the guest machine. the way to sort this out would be to disable or stop vagrant, and perform the same behavior. if problem persists, it's not vagrant. |
| 16:13.19 | laidback_01 | won't solve it, but gets you one step closer. |
| 16:13.30 | TomyWork | well suspend and resume basically do nothing but invoke vboxmanage i think |
| 16:13.34 | TomyWork | will try though |
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| 16:16.47 | TomyWork | laidback_01 ok, resuming it via the virtualbox gui gave me the benefit of seeing stuff happen on vt1: http://ctrlv.in/638203 |
| 16:17.28 | jack33 | Debian manpages are unclear here: what apt priority do I need to be able to upgrade a testing package (already installed from testing)? 0 < P < 100? I'd like to keep it < 0 to not have testing packages by accident. |
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| 16:17.49 | TomyWork | eth1 is a host-only interface, which still works nicely, i think |
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| 16:18.05 | jack33 | I installed that package with /testing, but no way to upgrade to the current version.. |
| 16:18.56 | TomyWork | at least i can request stuff on port 80 tcp both ways |
| 16:19.58 | laidback_01 | TomyWork: you could aways set up NAT and port-forwarding instead of using Bridging for you VM... just a thought. |
| 16:20.09 | TomyWork | there's no bridging |
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| 16:20.48 | TomyWork | 192.168.168/169.* are host-only and nat interfaces respectively |
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| 16:22.13 | laidback_01 | oh. well, way it goes. I used bridged for everything and let the DHCP service on the pfsense router handle if for me, but, I don't use vagrant. So, I can't quite sort out what's wrong. |
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| 16:30.00 | thot | way she goes |
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| 16:34.00 | Tau | hello. i'm trying to compile a tcl package. |
| 16:34.10 | Tau | this one actually http://www.ch-werner.de/ck/ |
| 16:34.14 | Tau | i got this error. |
| 16:34.23 | Tau | ck.h:18:17: fatal error: tcl.h: No such file or directory |
| 16:34.23 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.30 | Tau | i installed the tcl-dev package but it didnt help. |
| 16:34.44 | TomyWork | Tau find /usr -name tcl.h |
| 16:34.45 | Tau | there is no tcl.h in my /usr/include/ folder. |
| 16:34.55 | TomyWork | apt-file search tcl.h |
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| 16:35.15 | greycat | Debian 8 has tcl8.6-dev and tcl8.5-dev |
| 16:35.23 | finetundra2234 | hey folks, can anyone tell me a quick way to make a zip archive? |
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| 16:35.28 | TomyWork | or first of all: dpkg -L tcl-dev |
| 16:35.30 | quantic | finetundra2234: zip |
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| 16:36.08 | finetundra2234 | quantic, ok, what's the synatx to go with it? |
| 16:36.15 | finetundra2234 | *syntax |
| 16:36.43 | greycat | run "zip" with no arguments and it will show a help page |
| 16:36.51 | quantic | finetundra2234: seriously? |
| 16:36.59 | quantic | finetundra2234: or man zip? |
| 16:37.02 | greycat | or run "man zip" for a longer page |
| 16:37.28 | finetundra2234 | thanks fellas |
| 16:38.58 | greycat | tcl-dev in Debian 8 appears to depend on tcl8.6-dev |
| 16:39.42 | greycat | tcl8.6-dev has /usr/include/tcl8.6/tcl.h |
| 16:40.03 | jack33 | I just used an apt priority above zero, and still can't upgrade that package. I don't understand dthis. I don't want to have any testing/unstable packages installed unless I use "/testing", but I want to have all packages upgraded if there's a newer version in the same repo I used to install it from. Is that not possible? Too high apt priority and it will install unstable packages without a warning.. |
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| 16:43.47 | jack33 | It seems like I need an apt prio above 100 for automatic upgrades? But then I will unknowingly install unstable packages when that package is only available on unstable and not on stable. So I need to google for every new package if it's actually available in stable? There must be a better way! |
| 16:44.09 | jack33 | Feel free to direct me to a better place to ask.. |
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| 16:47.45 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.01 | Tau | tcl8.5-dev: /usr/include/tcl8.5/tcl.h |
| 16:48.05 | Tau | it seems it is in that folder. |
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| 16:49.49 | TomyWork | Tau i'm not that familiar with the way these build systems work. i guess you need to add -I/usr/include/tcl8.5 to your compiler's command line, but maybe there's another way |
| 16:50.31 | greycat | I take it he's on Wheezy, then. |
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| 17:01.31 | Scott0_ | any iodea why I might be gettign 1000s of emails in my servers mail queue? |
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| 17:01.45 | ira_gershwin | maybe you're handsome |
| 17:01.51 | Scott0_ | oh well that's possible |
| 17:01.52 | greycat | Incoming or outgoing? |
| 17:01.55 | Scott0_ | outgoing |
| 17:02.00 | Scott0_ | its a new debian 8 |
| 17:02.05 | Scott0_ | only been setup for a day |
| 17:02.15 | greycat | One of your users is a spammer? |
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| 17:02.23 | Scott0_ | the last version I had didn't have this happening |
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| 17:02.42 | greycat | Find out who they're from and who they're going to. |
| 17:03.55 | Scott0_ | there seems to be a new one each mninute |
| 17:04.02 | Scott0_ | but I do have cron jobs running every minute |
| 17:04.08 | Scott0_ | so maybe some warnign is being sent |
| 17:04.12 | Scott0_ | ill read into one of them |
| 17:04.13 | ira_gershwin | is it just one cron job or many? |
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| 17:04.25 | greycat | So they are erroring out and trying to deliver errors to whomever root's email is aliased to, but your outgoing mail config is incorrect? |
| 17:04.25 | ira_gershwin | if they're finite, you could turn off each one in sequence |
| 17:04.27 | Scott0_ | one job, multiple scripts in order |
| 17:04.40 | Scott0_ | they didn't generate these emails before |
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| 17:04.45 | Scott0_ | but I upgraded php and mysql |
| 17:04.50 | Scott0_ | so its possible some warnings |
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| 17:04.58 | ira_gershwin | yep, API changes seem possible |
| 17:05.03 | Scott0_ | outoging mail config is correct |
| 17:05.09 | jelly | Scott0_: the message metadata from the queue, and the logs from your mail server, should point to the source |
| 17:05.12 | greycat | Then why are they not being delivered? |
| 17:05.24 | Scott0_ | because my mail relay has conditions that need to be met |
| 17:05.29 | jelly | Scott0_: which MTA are you using? |
| 17:05.31 | Scott0_ | and I have not configured the root contact info |
| 17:05.37 | Scott0_ | nullmailer |
| 17:05.49 | greycat | So "outgoing mail config is correct" is incorrect. |
| 17:05.53 | Scott0_ | chances are its trying to sent to root@ |
| 17:06.10 | jelly | well then, nullmailer isn't _that_ complicated |
| 17:06.17 | Scott0_ | the MTA is configured correctlky |
| 17:06.25 | Scott0_ | but the address that its sending from is not |
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| 17:06.46 | Scott0_ | haha ok |
| 17:06.49 | Scott0_ | I see its cron messages |
| 17:06.55 | greycat | If a cron job run by root generates output, cron will try to send an email to "root" (the local account). Your local MTA config will typically alias this to whatever user you created during the Debian installation. Visible in /etc/aliases also. |
| 17:07.11 | jelly | yes well, fix your -f parameter to /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 17:07.18 | Scott0_ | I did not create anything during the installation, my VPS was installed using a provide image |
| 17:07.21 | Scott0_ | its a linode |
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| 17:07.33 | greycat | Oh, then you need to track it ALL down from scratch. |
| 17:07.39 | greycat | Start by figuring out which MTA is installed. |
| 17:07.44 | Scott0_ | huh? |
| 17:07.48 | greycat | My VPS provider used sendmail. Debian installer uses exim4. |
| 17:07.52 | Scott0_ | nullmailer is installed |
| 17:07.56 | jelly | greycat: nullmailer is the MTA |
| 17:07.58 | Scott0_ | exima was removed |
| 17:08.11 | greycat | I am not familiar with nullmailer. |
| 17:08.12 | Scott0_ | so how do I get cron to stop sending emails? |
| 17:08.20 | greycat | Fix the bugs. |
| 17:08.21 | Scott0_ | nullmailers is REALLY simple |
| 17:08.32 | Scott0_ | there aren't any |
| 17:08.38 | Scott0_ | cron is just sending a notification |
| 17:08.42 | greycat | READ IT |
| 17:08.45 | jelly | (well, sort of MTA. It's just /usr/sbin/sendmail and a small config file, no local delivery, no SMTP listener) |
| 17:08.46 | Scott0_ | I did |
| 17:08.57 | jack33 | I now have the apt-priority set above 100, it still doesn't offer to upgrade that package, neither "dist-upgrade" nor "upgrade packagename". I'm biting the table here. How can I debug apt and prio, repos and all that? |
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| 17:09.08 | Scott0_ | well.. I do see "TERM environment variable not set." at the bottom of one of the emails |
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| 17:11.13 | jack33 | Is *anyone* here using manual apt priorities? Or can I save me and you my blabber? |
| 17:11.41 | Scott0_ | is it expected to have TERM set when running from cron? |
| 17:11.45 | greycat | No. |
| 17:11.52 | Scott0_ | then wy would it complain? |
| 17:11.56 | greycat | It is in fact expected NOT to have a TERM variable set. |
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| 17:12.19 | jelly | jack33: which releases are you trying to mix? stable + anything newer isn't exactly sane or safe |
| 17:12.20 | greycat | It's complaining because whatever the hell your cron job calls is in turn calling some program that expects to run in a terminal. |
| 17:12.26 | Scott0_ | im running a bash script in the cron |
| 17:12.28 | jelly | dpkg, tell jack33 about tum |
| 17:12.41 | Scott0_ | /bin/bash job.sh |
| 17:12.43 | greycat | What does the bash script run? Top? Mutt? Emacs? Nethack? |
| 17:13.01 | jelly | and what does the job.sh do? |
| 17:13.34 | Scott0_ | its part of a php framework to run a php job |
| 17:13.40 | jack33 | jelly: I run stable, and want to use one, two packages from testing. as few as possible, that's why I set it up with a priority below zero, so I need to use "packagename/testing" to not install any testing packages unknowingly |
| 17:14.00 | somiaj | jack33: do not mix testing with stable. |
| 17:14.01 | jelly | jack33: fuck no, don't do that. Backport them if possible |
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| 17:14.07 | somiaj | !tell jack33 about don't break debian |
| 17:14.14 | greycat | Scott0_: So, which PHP library is it using that expects a terminal, or what external program is it system()ing that expects a terminal? |
| 17:14.15 | edoardo | hi |
| 17:14.19 | Scott0_ | I didn't have this issue on the previous server, so im wonrdering what changed, other than maybe shell was set for the user the job was run on at the previous server |
| 17:14.29 | edoardo | how can i set my default folder Handler? |
| 17:14.39 | Scott0_ | it shouldn't be expectiung a terminal at all |
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| 17:15.01 | edoardo | right now audacious (audio player) gets opened everytime i try to open a folder |
| 17:15.09 | edoardo | but i'd like to use thunar |
| 17:15.23 | edoardo | edoardo@x220:~$ cat /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache | grep directory |
| 17:15.24 | edoardo | inode/directory=audacious.desktop;Thunar-folder-handler.desktop; |
| 17:15.38 | Scott0_ | apparently something changed and the bash script needs to be modified to set the TERM=dumb |
| 17:15.39 | edoardo | i think this is the issue, but gets rewritten each time i do an update |
| 17:15.43 | Scott0_ | does this sound right? |
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| 17:16.46 | greycat | Scott0_: If that works, it is an acceptable band-aid. |
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| 17:17.06 | Scott0_ | im runnign an odl version of the framework, so I expected to find some inconsistencies |
| 17:17.07 | jack33 | jelly, somiaj: the package in question has no dependencies from testing. I don't plan to wildly mix distros, but I need that package (btrbk, a backup tool) as this is the sole task of that debian machine. No, it's only in testing and unstable. What would be a better approach? Installing it from GIT gets no upgrades (except I check manually). And running testing right away probably isn't exactly more stable? |
| 17:17.29 | somiaj | !tell jack33 about ssb |
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| 17:18.04 | somiaj | jack33: backport it, compile it yourself and install it in /usr/local. I would not add testing sources to a stable machine or install binaray packages not made for stable. If there is not a package made you will have to create one yourself. |
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| 17:18.25 | jelly | jack33: run testing if possible. If you only need one piece of software and some glue, it's not going to break a lot |
| 17:19.19 | jelly | or upgrade it manually instead of trying to make %#@$% pinning actualy work |
| 17:19.41 | jelly | tho I heard pinning got some fixes recently. |
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| 17:19.53 | somiaj | jack33: if you are completely positive that every dependency is satsifiable in stable I would suggest just downloading the .deb, but I rarely ever suggest this as you have to be 100% positive the software can be installed in stable, and in most cases it is better to backport than to let pinning or mix testing/stable sources. |
| 17:19.58 | jack33 | somiaj: this would obviously not upgrade via apt later on, right? |
| 17:20.19 | somiaj | jack33: correct, any package you manually installed that is outside of stable is now your responsability to provide secuirty/bug fixes |
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| 17:21.00 | somiaj | jack33: note stable dosen't really upgrade packages, only provides security and serious bug fixes. |
| 17:21.43 | greycat | The security team's policy is, wherever possible, to avoid bumping to a new upstream version, but instead to provide the smallest possible patch that fixes the security hole. |
| 17:22.01 | greycat | The most notable case where this fails is BIND. |
| 17:22.32 | jack33 | Well, I elarned something new. The Internet (tm) made it look like easy peasy to mix distros. I'll remove all prio and testing/unstable things from apt, and pull that package from git instead. Thank you, somiaj and jelly! |
| 17:23.01 | greycat | If you want easy "bigger version numbers" on stable, use backports. |
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| 17:23.04 | somiaj | jack33: note follow that factoid from ssb I sent you and you can use the debian source and compile it directly into a debian package. |
| 17:23.40 | greycat | I don't know what package he wanted. Is it not in backports.debian.org? |
| 17:23.43 | somiaj | jack33: if you don't mind deal with source installs, just make sure you do not install in /usr, install in /usr/local, /opt, $HOME/, i.e. somewhere that dpkg does not mess with. In that case debian works really well with local install from source. |
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| 17:23.56 | somiaj | jack33: sometimes software like gnu stow can really help manager local installs if you find you are doing this a lot. |
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| 17:24.23 | jack33 | I will keep that in mind (and write that in my notes.txt) for other packages in the future. For now, pulling and upgrading from git seems to be easier and more current too. |
| 17:24.43 | somiaj | greycat: well backports.debian.org is not a seperate thing and jessie-backports is on the normal mirrors. But no I do not know if it has been backported. I think it was removed from jessie due to bugs/outdated and it is a package that is now sitting in testing (But not positive there) |
| 17:25.03 | greycat | What package are you talking about? |
| 17:25.24 | jack33 | I need btrbk, which needs perl, libdate-calc-perl and btrfs-tools. It's a btrfs backup tool |
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| 17:25.37 | greycat | ,v btrbk |
| 17:25.38 | judd | Package: btrbk on amd64 -- sid: 0.20.0-1; stretch: 0.20.0-1 |
| 17:25.39 | somiaj | jack33: correct, for very paticular things I do local source installs. You have to find the way to best manage them. If you want to get a little more sosophicated, you learn to make a .deb from the source as opposed to just putting it in /usr/local. Either works |
| 17:25.54 | jack33 | All three dependencies are available in stable. |
| 17:25.58 | somiaj | though I bet the instructions in ssb would work well for that |
| 17:26.12 | somiaj | ,check-backport btrbk |
| 17:26.13 | judd | Backporting package btrbk in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 17:26.55 | somiaj | jack33: you need to be 100% positive, usually it is the core libc6 version and other core libaries that you don't want to pull in from testing. If you are 100% sure you can try, but I would just make your own package using the instructions from ssb. |
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| 17:27.21 | somiaj | jack33: pluss what about an update, it may all the suden need a gcc5 libc6 and once that is pulled in your system is hosed. (: |
| 17:27.28 | greycat | If he's happy doing it from upstream git, then he can just stick with that. |
| 17:27.49 | somiaj | Yup, I was just saying if he wanted to, he could learn to build a package. |
| 17:27.51 | greycat | Not everything needs to be installed as a deb. |
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| 17:28.17 | merlincorey | debs are niice though |
| 17:28.19 | jack33 | somiaj: by now I have a spider sense what packages not to pull from different repos or to have uninstalled en masse via a weird "solution" to aptitude conflict resolution.. ^^ |
| 17:28.22 | merlincorey | I like checkinstall if I am gonna build something on debian |
| 17:28.27 | greycat | They're only nice if someone else is making them for you. |
| 17:28.33 | merlincorey | cause then I get a deb so I can easily remove or distribute it |
| 17:28.52 | merlincorey | checkinstall is that someone else :P |
| 17:29.34 | jack33 | As this package is in testing already, I hope it will be in the next stable too. Ah well, manually checking and installing new versions it is then. |
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| 17:30.24 | somiaj | jack33: well stretch will be the next stable, but it could be a few years (I'm guessing 2-3) |
| 17:30.54 | somiaj | merlincorey: yea checkinstall, stow is the one I usually suggest |
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| 17:31.47 | somiaj | jack33: note stretch is currently undergoing a transition to gcc5 wich means pinning could really break things since there was an abi change. |
| 17:32.05 | somiaj | jack33: and if you have any other questions feel free to bring them here. |
| 17:33.01 | jack33 | somiaj: thank you a lot! hmm, I use debian for years now, and still there are rabbitholes everywhere! more holes than solid floor! :-) |
| 17:34.04 | somiaj | jack33: yea, problem is so much conflicting info can be found in google (due to all the different 'based on debian distros' out there). But once you get an understanding of how the core stable/frozen system works it isn't to much work to install newer software. You just rarely can do it from binary packages. |
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| 17:37.21 | LiENUS | is there a package for mod_spdy in jessie? |
| 17:38.11 | Scott0_ | :( nullmailer is using the hostname instead of the configure FROM: in the email. and then my smtp is rejecting because its not the FQDN |
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| 17:39.02 | Scott0_ | why is the MTA using user@hostname rather that the email address I used as the FROM in the mail? |
| 17:39.43 | jack33 | So it doesn't make sense to have "stable-backports" in my sources.list neither. |
| 17:40.26 | Scott0_ | why should I have to use th FQDN in the hostname? |
| 17:40.33 | greycat | Scott0_: the "From:" header in an email is just a comment, not actually used for anything, unless there is no "Reply-To:". Then the receiving mail program may use it as a fallback for replies. |
| 17:40.54 | Scott0_ | why can't I keep the hostname as the short name? |
| 17:41.11 | greycat | The actual sender of the email, used for bounces upon failures, is part of what's called the "envelope", and is not visible in the email itself (usually). |
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| 17:41.12 | Scott0_ | or is it pulling from /etc/hosts via the ip |
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| 17:42.07 | Scott0_ | yeah if its sending from user@shortname then it won't ever match the domain configured on the smtp relay |
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| 17:42.31 | Scott0_ | where is it getting the hostname from? |
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| 17:43.26 | Scott0_ | ah! there's a /etc/mailname |
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| 17:44.03 | hstl | greycat is stupid |
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| 17:44.48 | somiaj | jack33: yea jessie-backports is better so when the new stable is released you don't automatically change repos (though since the stable-backports is pinned so low this won't be nearly as dangerous as having 'stable' there) |
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| 17:46.07 | Scott0_ | sweet it works now |
| 17:46.30 | Scott0_ | https://wiki.debian.org/EtcMailName |
| 17:47.22 | jack33 | somiaj: I'm fine with automatically upgrading once the next stable is out. It is stable then, right? So stable-backports has readily compiled newer versions which would not break my system I suppose? and would only install those when I explicitely tell it to? |
| 17:47.27 | Scott0_ | and when /etc/mailname is created its pulled from the hostname file |
| 17:48.10 | somiaj | jack33: dist-upgrades are not always trival and somethig you want happening automatically. You want to set aside some time, read though the release notes, make proper backups and then preform the upgrade at a time you can ensure it upgrades correctly. |
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| 17:48.42 | somiaj | jack33: so it is better to not use 'stable' and then once you have read though the release notes and ready to upgrade, then you preform the dist-upgrade |
| 17:48.52 | jack33 | somiaj: okay, I'll stick to "releasename" then. |
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| 17:50.19 | TomyWork | is there a way to resolve against the resolver API |
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| 17:50.53 | TomyWork | is there a way to resolve DNs names and (and reverse-resolve IP addresses) against the resolver API linux programs usually use? |
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| 17:51.47 | greycat | TomyWork: getent hosts |
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| 17:53.42 | TomyWork | that worked, thanks |
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| 18:20.39 | user305_ | hey guys can you help me installing compiz? |
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| 18:21.38 | Jaorb | What is the best way(s) to remote desktop these days? |
| 18:22.23 | user305_ | mm ny distro come with an app to remote desktop |
| 18:22.51 | user305_ | somebody knows how to install compiz and activate it |
| 18:23.04 | user305_ | try with teamviewr |
| 18:23.10 | user305_ | teamviewer |
| 18:23.29 | greycat | ,v compiz |
| 18:23.30 | judd | Package: compiz on amd64 -- squeeze: 0.8.4-4 |
| 18:23.51 | greycat | Huh. OK.... |
| 18:23.57 | markybob | !compiz |
| 18:23.57 | dpkg | Compiz was a compositing window manager using OpenGL for rendering. Compiz hasn't been developed for some time and is no longer part of Debian (see bugs #719870 and #677864). Plenty of other window managers have the same features as compiz. For a list of available window managers, run «apt-cache showpkg x-window-manager». See also http://wiki.debian.org/Compiz http://www.compiz.org/ or #compiz on irc.freenode.net. |
| 18:24.06 | ctmjr | compiz is dead |
| 18:24.27 | jelly | kde has similar wigly wobbly features |
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| 18:25.57 | user305_ | well can you tell me another one that has the same features or some of they? |
| 18:26.09 | user305_ | and thanks for the info |
| 18:26.16 | Jaorb | what do you use to remote desktop ctmjr? |
| 18:26.42 | detergnet | "Plenty of other window managers" have "the cube" and "wobbly windows"? or just kwin? |
| 18:27.09 | greycat | wonders what the word "compositing" means, then decides he doesn't really care enough to find out. |
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| 18:27.36 | Jaorb | compositing is a good thing |
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| 18:28.28 | user305_ | you recommend me kwin? |
| 18:30.00 | jelly | I don't recommend anything, just noting it has some of the effects. |
| 18:30.54 | user305_ | let's try one to see if it work |
| 18:30.59 | jelly | so try it, and you might as well try the whole kde anyway |
| 18:31.48 | jelly | if one ignores the "Activities" it can be used as a conservative wm with panels and virtual desktops. |
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| 18:38.46 | jelly | ubuntu still has compiz as component of their main, Unity interface, so they apparently maintain it |
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| 18:39.46 | styler2go | I am currently trying to setup squid but i can't get the auth working. would anyone have time to help me? I currently have this config: http://pastebin.com/R1RfAe5s |
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| 18:53.35 | K4j | PKK |
| 18:53.36 | K4j | jo |
| 18:53.36 | MazB | :( |
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| 18:53.58 | Maz | HA |
| 18:54.00 | Maz | Jaaaaaaaaaaaaa! |
| 18:54.01 | K4j | reg âm |
| 18:54.04 | K4j | :p |
| 18:54.10 | Maz | Ff kijke |
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| 18:57.08 | styler2go | noone? :/ |
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| 19:00.52 | jelly | styler2go: nope, noone. Is that squid3 or squid (2)? |
| 19:01.09 | styler2go | it is debian 7 so it is squid(2) |
| 19:01.21 | greycat | I've never used auth with squid. |
| 19:01.30 | styler2go | how else? |
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| 19:01.51 | greycat | My reasons for using squid were quite the opposite of "restricting access". |
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| 19:02.14 | styler2go | public proxy? |
| 19:02.28 | greycat | Local area network. |
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| 19:02.34 | styler2go | oh |
| 19:02.51 | styler2go | well yeah, i bought a server in usa to bypass some filters here in my country |
| 19:02.55 | styler2go | so i need it over werb |
| 19:03.05 | jelly | ,v squid3 |
| 19:03.06 | judd | Package: squid3 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 3.1.6-1.2+squeeze3; squeeze: 3.1.6-1.2+squeeze3; squeeze-security-lts: 3.1.6-1.2+squeeze5; wheezy: 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u3; wheezy-backports: 3.4.8-5~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.4.8-6; jessie-security: 3.4.8-6+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 3.4.8-6+deb8u1; stretch: 3.5.7-1; sid: 3.5.7-1 |
| 19:03.17 | jelly | styler2go: debian 7 has squid3 too |
| 19:03.30 | styler2go | but why don't i have it? :( |
| 19:03.37 | greycat | Have you considered just using ssh -D to establish a SOCKS proxy for your browser? |
| 19:03.53 | jelly | styler2go: possibly because you installed "squid" instead of "squid3" package |
| 19:03.58 | styler2go | :D |
| 19:04.08 | styler2go | apt-get purge to uninstall, right? |
| 19:04.10 | greycat | Not that squid/squid3 is necessarily the wrong answer, but it may be overkill. |
| 19:04.35 | jelly | I'm using squid for similar purposes, but accessible over vpn only |
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| 19:05.19 | styler2go | creating a vpn is way more difficult and i am not that experienced on linux, so i won't be able to set it up |
| 19:05.45 | greycat | I've got two ssh -N -D tunnels going, one to my home computer, one to my VPS, and I'll switch between them as needed to ensure I can always get to what I want. |
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| 19:06.33 | jelly | styler2go: it's similar difficulty to configuring squid, really |
| 19:06.35 | jhutchins | styler2go: I wouldn't say a vpn is more difficult, it's just a differnt task. |
| 19:06.49 | styler2go | hmm |
| 19:06.59 | styler2go | but i would need vpn AND then a proxy? |
| 19:07.11 | styler2go | ideally i'd like to have something which i can use with my android phone |
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| 19:07.56 | Colti | use a ssh tunnel its the easiest way |
| 19:08.06 | styler2go | my phone can those VPNs: PPTP, L2TP/IPsec and IPSec Xauth |
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| 19:08.30 | styler2go | i just want squid to be running to be honest |
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| 19:08.34 | greycat | I don't know anything about phones, but if it can run OpenSSH client and a web browser with SOCKS support, then you can do t hat. |
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| 19:08.50 | greycat | Or you can set up squid. |
| 19:09.03 | greycat | The #squid channel may be more help than we are. |
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| 19:09.11 | Colti | total overkill :p |
| 19:09.14 | styler2go | does the squid3 replace the squid service? |
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| 19:12.39 | the_weanus | styler2go: you may want to check out pfSense, as it might be a better appliance to accomplish what you're trying to do. and no, you don't need a proxy if your VPN is configured correctly (routes). |
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| 19:26.28 | Hobbes` | I have a debian box with 4 WAN interfaces , after upgrading to jessie I'm seeing weird NAT/routing issues |
| 19:26.52 | Hobbes` | packets go out the wrong interface with the IP of a different WAN interface |
| 19:27.49 | Hobbes` | (and it appears the iptables masqeurade rules don't seem to apply to all packets) |
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| 19:31.24 | Hobbes` | can't seem to find any bug reports about such behavior |
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| 19:34.41 | sep_alicia | Any have experience with reverse ssh? I can't seem to get it to work |
| 19:35.01 | sep_alicia | Any one can help me? |
| 19:35.02 | greycat | Remember, by default sshd only binds to localhost on a reverse tunnel. |
| 19:35.22 | greycat | if that's not the issue, then you have to give a lot more detail. |
| 19:35.37 | sep_alicia | greycat: ok |
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| 19:37.53 | sep_alicia | greycat: I'm trying to connect with the standard ssh app from android, connectbot |
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| 19:38.08 | sep_alicia | greycat: On the server, I'm running: ssh -R 2222:localhost:6622 u0_a277@spku.noip.me |
| 19:38.53 | greycat | spku.noip.me is your phone? |
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| 19:39.13 | sep_alicia | greycat: yes |
| 19:39.28 | sep_alicia | greycat: noip is a dynamic ip service |
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| 19:40.09 | greycat | OK, assuming that connection works, you should have a tunnel you can access via localhost:2222 on the phone, which sends to localhost:6622 on the server. |
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| 19:40.37 | jelly | so there has to be a sshd service actually listening on :6622 for that to work |
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| 19:40.49 | sep_alicia | greycat: I can login to the server, while on the server machine with: ssh -p 6622 localhost |
| 19:41.59 | sep_alicia | greycat: For some reason when trying to connect from my phone, I get connection failed everytime |
| 19:42.25 | sep_alicia | greycat: Would you mind trying to connect into my server, just so I can verify if a login prompt can appear? |
| 19:42.43 | greycat | If you do "telnet localhost 2222" on the phone, do you get an SSH banner, or connection refused, or what? |
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| 19:43.46 | sep_alicia | greycat: If you can get a login prompt on my server, then I will at least be able to eliminate the server as the cause of the problem. |
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| 19:44.39 | greycat | I can try, but it may not reveal the problem since I won't be coming in through your reverse tunnel. |
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| 19:45.14 | asklepian | hi, I'm following these instructions exactly: https://wiki.debian.org/Mate |
| 19:45.25 | asklepian | and now I have no graphical interface at all |
| 19:45.33 | sep_alicia | greycat: Ok, you can pm me your username@ip. I will put it in for you |
| 19:45.36 | asklepian | I went from Gnome to a command line |
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| 19:46.08 | asklepian | why is the debian wiki so incomplete? |
| 19:46.54 | greycat | sep_alicia: I'm not sure what you expect. If you give me the server's IP (and I assume port 6622) I can attempt to get an SSH banner from it. |
| 19:47.09 | greycat | I won't try to login. That's not what we're diagnosing. |
| 19:47.33 | sep_alicia | greycat: The server is spkt.noip.me -p 2222 |
| 19:47.46 | greycat | I thought that was your phone. |
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| 19:47.52 | HAL2328 | what's so incomplete about it? |
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| 19:48.07 | sep_alicia | greycat: The phone is spku.noip.me |
| 19:48.36 | greycat | I get connection refused on spkt.noip.me port 2222 and port 6622. |
| 19:48.54 | sep_alicia | greycat: Of course, because the server is behind NAT |
| 19:48.59 | greycat | But that doesn't prove anything, since you were trying to get into it via a reverse tunnel, not via the public IP interface. |
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| 19:49.11 | sep_alicia | greycat: Which is why I need to do reverse ssh |
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| 19:49.28 | greycat | What happens when you do "telnet localhost 2222" on the phone after the tunnel is up? |
| 19:49.32 | asklepian | HAL2328 that I can follow the instructions exactly and end up worse than where I started |
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| 19:50.08 | sep_alicia | greycat: I don't understand why you're asking that question. There is no telnet on the phone |
| 19:50.16 | greycat | Oh lordy. |
| 19:50.29 | greycat | So the only tool you have available to diagnose the local end of the tunnel is ssh? |
| 19:51.04 | sep_alicia | greycat: I have limited resources, which is why I'm on IRC asking for help |
| 19:51.47 | greycat | ponders whether it's easier to try to get a parsing of "ssh -v" or to attempt to do direct TCP sockets in bash.... |
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| 19:52.02 | sep_alicia | greycat: The first thing I would like to do is verify whether or not the server is operating correctly. Do you think you can help me do that? |
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| 19:52.12 | greycat | I can't determine that from here. |
| 19:52.20 | sep_alicia | greycat: Why not? |
| 19:52.43 | greycat | Because I'm not going to give you an account on MY computer for you to run a reverse tunnel into. |
| 19:53.37 | greycat | What happens when you try "ssh -p 2222 localhost" on the phone? |
| 19:54.33 | sep_alicia | greycat: Maybe I'm not understanding correctly. I'm requesting only a username@ip for me to reach you. I'm running the server, you will be attempting to login to me. |
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| 19:56.03 | sep_alicia | greycat: There is no sshd running on the phone. The answer to your question is it will do nothing. |
| 19:56.03 | equex | i. i want to clone my 80 gb encrypted disk into a 500gb disk. so i successfully dd if=etc of=etc but then the uuids also become the same. but why wont grub boot off the new drive if it has the same uuid? i tried to generate new uuids also, but unsure how to do this cleanly without messing up /boot/grub/grub.cfg jessie seems to regenerate the file on reboot? |
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| 19:56.28 | greycat | Then your reverse tunnel from the server to the phone is not in place. Your initial ssh -R step has failed. |
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| 19:57.40 | greycat | If the phone isn't running sshd *at all* then there is no way you can do ssh -R ... you@phone to set up the tunnel. |
| 19:58.17 | sep_alicia | greycat: Ok, so you're saying sshd needs to be running on the client and server? |
| 19:58.20 | greycat | yes. |
| 19:58.46 | sep_alicia | greycat: I never read anything about this |
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| 19:59.05 | sep_alicia | greycat: https://www.howtoforge.com/reverse-ssh-tunneling |
| 19:59.44 | abrotman | would trust greycat before a website .. |
| 20:00.11 | greycat | It's possible they omitted certain basic steps, because they just assumed you would do them. |
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| 20:02.57 | greycat | When you ran "ssh -R 2222:localhost:6622 u0_a277@spku.noip.me" from the server, didn't you notice that it failed? |
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| 20:03.24 | sep_alicia | greycat: it timed out |
| 20:03.46 | greycat | That should have been your first hint that something wasn't working. |
| 20:03.46 | sep_alicia | greycat: I was never able to establish connection. Which is why I'm here |
| 20:04.09 | greycat | The system that *receives* the tunnel connection (in your case, your phone) has to be running sshd. |
| 20:05.15 | sep_alicia | greycat: So basically, the server logs into the client, and then the client uses that connection to log back into the server? |
| 20:05.26 | greycat | yes |
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| 20:05.42 | sep_alicia | greycat: well that sucks |
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| 20:06.18 | sep_alicia | greycat: I was hoping to somehow figure a way to connect NAT2NAT |
| 20:06.40 | sep_alicia | greycat: A separate problem |
| 20:07.10 | greycat | You'd need another machine able to receive the tunnel connection from spkt, and then to receive connections from the phone (spku). |
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| 20:08.33 | sep_alicia | greycat: I feel like I need an effective holepunching strategy, but there doesn't appear to be a mainstream solution for that yet |
| 20:08.45 | abrotman | mount the phone, dd the contents over? |
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| 20:10.06 | greycat | If both ends are NATted, the more typical solution would be to configure one (or both) of the NAT routers to forward a port inward. |
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| 20:12.23 | sep_alicia | greycat: You're right, and that was a reasonable solution back when all computers were connected to the internet by wires. Sadly, my situation has evolved beyond that old solution. |
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| 20:12.54 | greycat | Are spku and spkt both phones? |
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| 20:13.21 | sep_alicia | greycat: if only we had ipv6 already hehe |
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| 20:14.01 | sep_alicia | greycat: spkt is not a phone, but the address will be eventually ported to a mobile device |
| 20:14.02 | Dagger | `apt-get install miredo` |
| 20:14.18 | Dagger | gets a no-fuss v6 tunnel working, at least for some people |
| 20:14.27 | Dagger | (for others it just doesn't work, but it's worth a try) |
| 20:15.08 | jhutchins | sep_alicia: I have ipv6. Latency and other metrics are significantly worse than ipv4. |
| 20:15.36 | northstar | sep_alicia, you can install orbot and a server on your phone, make a hidden tor service, and bypass anything blocking connections. you'd need to connect via tor, though. |
| 20:15.42 | sep_alicia | jhutchins: I can only imagine :) |
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| 20:16.02 | Dagger | jhutchins: that's not inherent to v6. your provider just sucks |
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| 20:16.20 | jhutchins | Dagger: Yeah, I can't see Google knowing anything about networking. |
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| 20:16.24 | Dagger | Facebook measure their site as loading 10-15% faster over v6, so apparently it's better for most people |
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| 20:16.52 | jhutchins | Dagger: That or they're cooking the stats. |
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| 20:17.09 | asklepian | is there a debian casual channel |
| 20:17.11 | asklepian | ? |
| 20:17.18 | greycat | there is #debian-offtopic |
| 20:17.22 | asklepian | just to go to hangout? |
| 20:17.26 | asklepian | oh cool |
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| 20:19.32 | greycat | I don't think I'll ever fully understand IPv6 until ISPs start giving IPv6 addresses. |
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| 20:20.10 | greycat | The whole idea of "make a v4-to-v6 tunnel so you can pretend like you have a v6 address, which is only a thing you would do if you didn't have a v4 address in the first place" is pretty crazy. |
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| 20:20.55 | quantic | I manage a fairly large ipv6 deployment. It took some getting used to. |
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| 20:21.10 | Dagger | well, you would need v4 access to do a v6-over-v4 tunnel... |
| 20:21.37 | kaak | when I broadcast a UDP datagram on a machine with multiple NICs (physical and/or virtual), which interface(s) is the datagram delivered out on? |
| 20:21.59 | kaak | all of them? one of them? some of them? none of them? ... |
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| 20:23.40 | NoImNotNineVolt | failed to run 'start' task: No such file or directory |
| 20:23.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | is that systemd complaining about my ExecStart stuff? |
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| 20:24.19 | NoImNotNineVolt | because i can stat that file just fine. it's there. it exists. |
| 20:24.27 | greycat | Is it a script? |
| 20:24.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's a pyenv thing. |
| 20:24.45 | greycat | Is it possibly a 32-bit executable on a 64-bit system or vice versa? |
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| 20:24.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | /opt/foo/pyenv/bin/foo |
| 20:25.04 | NoImNotNineVolt | (i'm a python / virtualenv noob) |
| 20:25.06 | greycat | If it's a python script, check the first line (the shebang) and make DOUBLY sure it does not end with a carriage return + newline. |
| 20:25.39 | NoImNotNineVolt | does NOT? wat? isn't a shebang supposed to end with a \r\n? |
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| 20:26.02 | greycat | Absolutely not. |
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| 20:26.23 | NoImNotNineVolt | it was generated by easy_install. presumably a bug like that would've been caught over the last decade. |
| 20:26.24 | greycat | And that is one of the more common causes for ENOENT on a script. |
| 20:26.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | so what _is_ the shebang line supposed to end with? |
| 20:27.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | and is there a way to do this in nano or am i gonna be firing up a hex editor? |
| 20:27.11 | greycat | just a newline |
| 20:27.20 | greycat | http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/052 |
| 20:28.04 | NoImNotNineVolt | ah, it's very unlikely that i've got DOS line terminators on here as this has never touched a non-debian system. |
| 20:28.13 | greycat | Wouldn't hurt to check. |
| 20:28.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | yea, that didn't do it. |
| 20:29.02 | greycat | The second most likely reason would be that the interpreter path is simply wrong (e.g. /usr/local/bin/python vs. /usr/bin/python). |
| 20:29.19 | NoImNotNineVolt | it comes with its own interpreter. |
| 20:29.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | oh wait. |
| 20:29.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | no, you're right! :P |
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| 20:30.20 | NoImNotNineVolt | but that still didn't fix it :P |
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| 20:32.37 | jhutchins | NoImNotNineVolt: No such file or directory implies that something the script is calling is not found. Full paths to everything? Environment variables all properly defined? |
| 20:33.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | yea, triple checking now. |
| 20:33.42 | NoImNotNineVolt | but on another note, is it possible to specify more than one EnvironmentFile? |
| 20:33.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | space delimited or.. ? |
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| 20:34.42 | greycat | NoImNotNineVolt: man systemd.exec |
| 20:35.13 | NoImNotNineVolt | oh wow. |
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| 20:36.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | well, doesn't state the delimiter. |
| 20:36.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | but it does say "files", implying that more than one can be provided. |
| 20:36.44 | NoImNotNineVolt | yea, this won't work. thanks for the tips. |
| 20:36.58 | greycat | NoImNotNineVolt: Read it again. Slowly. |
| 20:37.08 | greycat | The end of the second paragraph. |
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| 20:37.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | ah, no delimiter, separate options! :P |
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| 20:37.58 | NoImNotNineVolt | in any case, i was going about it all wrontg. |
| 20:38.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | pyenv/bin/active must be sourced by bash specifically. |
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| 20:51.15 | JasonWoof | I'm looking for a (text) pager that I can configure a keybinding or two to pipe the text being paged to a shell script |
| 20:51.55 | JasonWoof | preferably this wouldn't alter the contents of the buffer, but if the buffer must be replaced by the output of the shell script, I can make my shell script ``cat`` too |
| 20:52.35 | JasonWoof | (I'm wanting to implement a key to "read it", by piping it to my espeak wrapper) |
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| 20:53.50 | JasonWoof | is this possible with existing tools? |
| 20:55.33 | greycat | less(1) has |Xcommand Pipe file between current pos & mark X to shell command. |
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| 21:09.37 | kevtux000 | Hi, I have a problem with the fonction use_spacer in conky, does anyone help me? |
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| 21:10.35 | mns | I have a fresh netinstall of Debian/testing. Just the basic system. No X11, etc. and what I want is to be able to swap Caps and Ctrl keys. How do I do this on the console, and make it permanent ? |
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| 21:12.13 | jwbrown77 | Does anyone know where I might find a complete reference for preseed files, or where I may inspect the source code that parses preseed files? |
| 21:12.41 | JasonWoof | mns: I don't know, but you could try reading ``man loadkeys``, ``man keymaps`` etc |
| 21:12.54 | jwbrown77 | e.g. a reference of all available d-i commands and what they do, not just the examples that include some options on the wiki. |
| 21:14.00 | SynrG | jwbrown77: all i know is the appendix of the Debian installation guide |
| 21:14.18 | jwbrown77 | I need to select a specific option when installing through PXE - I want to overwrite the contents of the existing root partition. This is available if I select it manually: http://i.imgur.com/y4NDDKU.png |
| 21:14.28 | jwbrown77 | I was hoping to find the d-i command that would trigger this behavior. |
| 21:14.47 | mns | JasonWoof: ok thanks |
| 21:15.44 | JasonWoof | greyness: I see. Do you know if it's possible (in less) to bind a single key-press to pipe the buffer to aparticular command? |
| 21:16.17 | SynrG | !tell jwbrown77 about installation guide |
| 21:17.44 | jwbrown77 | Thanks, I'm going through it again to see if I missed anything. |
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| 21:18.28 | jwbrown77 | An alternate question: Is there a way to make the installer write the corresponding preseed file to disk after installation according to the options the user selected? Similar to how Redhat writes anaconda-ks.cfg to /root after install? |
| 21:18.46 | SynrG | If you're totally stuck after reading all relevant doc there is #debian-boot @ irc.oftc.net |
| 21:19.19 | SynrG | Probably. Perhaps with a hook script |
| 21:19.32 | SynrG | I'm no expert in this area |
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| 21:19.54 | SynrG | I only have a passing familiarity in my work on debian-live |
| 21:20.11 | jwbrown77 | Ok, thank you SynrG. I tried to find a more relevant Debian sub-channel before asking here. :) I will check there after I review this again. |
| 21:20.37 | SynrG | K. Good luck. Please note the different network |
| 21:20.54 | jwbrown77 | Yes, thank you. |
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| 21:26.25 | HAL2328 | in debian open command does not work. a quick search shows in debian, it's 'see' is this correct? |
| 21:26.43 | nuno_nunes | hi |
| 21:26.54 | johnny_ | hello |
| 21:27.05 | nuno_nunes | i downloaded this debian 8.1 amd64 |
| 21:27.35 | nuno_nunes | i need to ativate this multiarch and change sources.lists |
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| 21:29.37 | t4nk284 | i accidentally ran sudo enter-chroot while it was installing and it asked me if i wanted to continue i said yes, then it said it was removing the script because it failed to continue |
| 21:29.45 | t4nk284 | does that mean the installation that is going now is messed up? |
| 21:30.58 | t4nk284 | well that was a yes |
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| 21:33.14 | ndiddylaptop | nano_nunes: dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
| 21:33.20 | ndiddylaptop | or whatever arch |
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| 21:34.39 | nuno_nunes | ndiddylaptop, is a change of source list this repository |
| 21:34.49 | ndiddylaptop | what |
| 21:35.19 | nuno_nunes | this my other linux is a not using this comands |
| 21:35.20 | nuno_nunes | :S |
| 21:35.44 | ndiddylaptop | you don't need to change your sources.list if thats what you're asking |
| 21:36.15 | nuno_nunes | ok thanks |
| 21:36.56 | ndiddylaptop | you do need to run apt-get update afterwards |
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| 22:04.14 | pycoderf | hello all. does StartLimitBurst effectively stop trying to start a service after the configured number of times? |
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| 22:21.35 | styler2go | Hello. When i am running "apt-get update" i get "W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package libjpeg62, W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" |
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| 22:27.13 | neilthereildeil | hey guys. how can i use Scrt1.o when linking my program rather than th default crt? |
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| 22:35.03 | Rzaor78 | hey |
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| 22:37.52 | tite12345 | Hi! |
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| 22:37.57 | tite12345 | This is very weird. |
| 22:38.12 | tite12345 | The battery status indicator still shows up even if I have the battery unplugged. |
| 22:38.15 | Rzaor78 | what is it |
| 22:38.19 | tite12345 | What seems to happen here? |
| 22:38.34 | Rzaor78 | i think you should just reboot it |
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| 22:38.58 | tite12345 | Nah |
| 22:39.04 | tite12345 | That doesn't work. |
| 22:39.13 | tite12345 | And I don't think there was a time that this is corrected. |
| 22:39.24 | tite12345 | I think same goes for most people or users of Debian? |
| 22:39.40 | tite12345 | I've reinstalled Debian a couple of times, both complete and net inst. iso image even. |
| 22:39.45 | tite12345 | I still get the same thing. |
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| 22:41.19 | tite12345 | Rzaor78: What seems to be happening? |
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| 22:44.35 | yeah_guy | how do i change my LVM encrypted passphrase? |
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| 22:49.02 | tite12345 | yeah_guy: Have you tried Googl'ing it? :) |
| 22:49.37 | tite12345 | What the hell?! |
| 22:49.49 | tite12345 | My "Basket" application is now gone. |
| 22:49.53 | yeah_guy | yes. i found different answers. |
| 22:49.58 | quantic | yeah_guy: it's literally the first google result for your question. |
| 22:50.05 | tite12345 | I think it may have something to do with me suddenly rebooting my syste. It hanged just earlier lol |
| 22:50.21 | tite12345 | So what I did was to log in to another tty as root and `reboot now`;. |
| 22:50.30 | tite12345 | yeah_guy: :) |
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| 23:24.06 | amundsen | hi. |
| 23:24.38 | charliegreen_ | amundsen: welcome! |
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| 23:25.36 | amundsen | can anyone tell me if there's an animation during system boot in the default install? |
| 23:25.52 | amundsen | obviously i'm talking about jessie |
| 23:26.06 | amundsen | and plymouth |
| 23:26.29 | ndiddylaptop | no |
| 23:26.44 | ndiddylaptop | just text |
| 23:27.28 | amundsen | my screen gets black |
| 23:27.35 | amundsen | no text, no animation |
| 23:27.52 | amundsen | and plymouth is installed |
| 23:27.54 | amundsen | :( |
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| 23:28.27 | teraflops | amundsen: you know about setting up plymouth? |
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| 23:28.57 | teraflops | as in install a theme, setup the bootloader properly and rebuild initcpio? |
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| 23:29.36 | amundsen | teraflops, i've read dozens of howtos |
| 23:29.49 | amundsen | i've tried everything |
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| 23:30.11 | teraflops | amundsen: which gpu? |
| 23:30.32 | amundsen | but now my doubt is...does anybody see a boot animation in jessie |
| 23:30.43 | teraflops | nvidia intel radeon |
| 23:31.08 | amundsen | teraflops, nvidia/intel (optimus) but i'm using the free drivers |
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| 23:31.26 | teraflops | ah youre thinking in a bug? Idk i do not use plymouth |
| 23:31.36 | teraflops | amundsen: so intel is ok then |
| 23:32.33 | amundsen | teraflops, you see any boot animation? |
| 23:32.37 | teraflops | amundsen: well, in a perfect world it is easy to setup |
| 23:33.04 | teraflops | amundsen: no, as I said I do not like plymouth and I do not use it |
| 23:33.26 | amundsen | oops sorry. i thought someone else said that |
| 23:33.28 | amundsen | :/ |
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