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| 00:20.32 | chozha | hi my wireless icon and power icon missing from gnome panel |
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| 00:20.59 | chozha | how to fix this |
| 00:21.27 | mns | whats a good CLI tool to burn DVDs of ISO images ? |
| 00:21.44 | chozha | brb |
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| 00:22.09 | deego | mns: wodim? |
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| 00:25.45 | mns | deego: thanks. forgot about that one. :) |
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| 00:26.33 | deego | :) |
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| 00:31.39 | meaneye | Hey folks. Anyone using Gnome-Software application? For me first page ("All") is always empty. |
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| 00:39.47 | chozha | meaneye: nice |
| 00:40.21 | SHOTbyGUN | I just made a script that has package downloader / installer / compiler.. so I can have packages 3 times faster compiled than normal :P |
| 00:40.31 | dvs | O_O |
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| 00:40.52 | chozha | SHOTbyGUN: \m/ 1337 |
| 00:41.16 | meaneye | chozha, What is nice? |
| 00:41.17 | SHOTbyGUN | I'v loved multithreading since I was 10, and now I learned this "bash" thing in a week |
| 00:41.51 | SHOTbyGUN | I'll upload this script into github if this test finishes well |
| 00:42.16 | chozha | SHOTbyGUN: :o |
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| 00:42.49 | SHOTbyGUN | I wanted to make this script because I want to optimize gaming related libraries to processor |
| 00:43.10 | SHOTbyGUN | but where can I find information about what libraries I should optimize for gaming? |
| 00:43.35 | chozha | SHOTbyGUN: google ? |
| 00:44.16 | SHOTbyGUN | I don't think that has been asked before |
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| 00:45.29 | SHOTbyGUN | but I know that ppl recommend deleting steam platform libraries: libgcc_s.so libstdc++.so libxcb.so* since they are outdated in steam platform |
| 00:45.47 | SHOTbyGUN | but I'd like to know if there are any more of those performance impacting libraries :P |
| 00:46.44 | chozha | SHOTbyGUN: can you answer my simple question ? |
| 00:46.57 | chozha | SHOTbyGUN: wut is library ? |
| 00:47.26 | SHOTbyGUN | chozha: like thos libs I listed 20 seconds ago, for example |
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| 00:47.57 | chozha | hum ? |
| 00:48.05 | SHOTbyGUN | libgcc_s.so ? |
| 00:48.16 | SHOTbyGUN | libstcdc++.so |
| 00:48.26 | SHOTbyGUN | etc... |
| 00:48.42 | SHOTbyGUN | what ever libraries many steam games use |
| 00:49.17 | chozha | O.o |
| 00:49.28 | chozha | what it actually do ? SHOTbyGUN |
| 00:51.05 | SHOTbyGUN | chozha: every single application you have ever used... uses libraries... for example there is IRC library...so if you want to make IRC client or IRC server, you don't need to write everything yourself, you just need to implement library functions and you have already done your first IRC server / client |
| 00:51.46 | chozha | HMM OK SHOTbyGUN |
| 00:52.00 | SHOTbyGUN | games uses libraries for geometry + network + graphics + sound + scripting... so optimizing libraries benefits games as well |
| 00:52.11 | chozha | SHOTbyGUN: is you good with DOcker ? or Vagrant |
| 00:52.24 | SHOTbyGUN | never heard of those |
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| 00:52.28 | chozha | Sounds Creepy |
| 00:52.52 | chozha | SO YOU ARE A GAMER ?? |
| 00:52.59 | SHOTbyGUN | yeah, gamer / programmer |
| 00:53.16 | chozha | NYC |
| 00:53.27 | SHOTbyGUN | mostly programmer, because my skills are collapsing as I am ageing |
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| 00:53.44 | chozha | skills ? |
| 00:53.46 | SHOTbyGUN | cannot 360 headshot in counter strike anymore like 10 years ago |
| 00:53.53 | chozha | :o |
| 00:54.33 | SHOTbyGUN | I used to be above average, and first application I made was that you can get to counter strike server before non-vips if you buy vip with txt msg |
| 00:54.48 | SHOTbyGUN | as I hosted cs servers |
| 00:55.03 | chozha | :| |
| 00:55.14 | SHOTbyGUN | I had 4 cs servers running on Finland which were top #1 in finland <3 |
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| 00:55.21 | SHOTbyGUN | so many ppl bought txt vips |
| 00:55.58 | SHOTbyGUN | god syndrome is addicting |
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| 00:56.10 | SHOTbyGUN | or is it "god complex" |
| 00:56.13 | SHOTbyGUN | dunno |
| 00:56.27 | SHOTbyGUN | we have seriously ran away from my original question |
| 00:56.44 | chozha | yes |
| 00:56.45 | SHOTbyGUN | what libraries do games use |
| 00:57.28 | chozha | those lib which are used by usually graphics application |
| 00:57.50 | chozha | like gimp ? |
| 00:57.58 | VoidFox | except if u make a snake-like game using curses |
| 00:58.14 | SHOTbyGUN | yes, BUT openGL libraries are mostly provided by graphics driver vendors, and those implementations are not open source |
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| 00:58.49 | SHOTbyGUN | VoidFox: is there any in repo :p ? |
| 00:59.19 | VoidFox | dont think so.. but ~20000 on github i bet |
| 00:59.29 | SHOTbyGUN | haha |
| 01:00.01 | SHOTbyGUN | I still have never used curses, I really still think that console graphics are magic |
| 01:00.24 | SHOTbyGUN | terminal graphiscs* |
| 01:00.48 | SHOTbyGUN | we require more minerals *beer* ... as I start to typo more |
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| 01:12.58 | MinusFour | ugh, this might not be something completely debian-related but if my system suddenly restarts and on the logs there's no error messages, can i assume it's a power loss problem? |
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| 01:15.24 | AvatarA | high probability, never can be certain |
| 01:15.37 | MinusFour | could it be a silent error on the kernel? |
| 01:15.40 | MinusFour | or something like that? |
| 01:15.51 | AvatarA | I had a similar issue, my laptop suddenly shut down |
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| 01:16.34 | AvatarA | it was because of high temperatures in my case |
| 01:17.27 | MinusFour | well, that makes sense, the pc would just shut down after unsafe temps |
| 01:17.28 | AvatarA | kernel errors should give kernel panic, wall of text on your screen and halted computer with flashing keyboard lights |
| 01:18.56 | MinusFour | it only happens after he enables the NIC card |
| 01:19.00 | MinusFour | which is weird |
| 01:19.15 | wincfan | ; |
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| 01:19.31 | BullHorn | hello |
| 01:19.55 | BullHorn | i want to try linux but i dont want to dualboot or go cold turkey, what kind of VM software would you recommend |
| 01:20.59 | AvatarA | MinusFour, is he certain he checked the logs thoroughly? |
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| 01:21.43 | MinusFour | yep, here's syslog rebooting: |
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| 01:22.08 | MinusFour | http://pastebin.com/g3qxDc4a |
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| 01:22.33 | AvatarA | BullHorn, see virtualbox |
| 01:22.52 | MinusFour | and after you see the usual startup messages from boot |
| 01:22.54 | iamrohit7 | why do people like debian so much? |
| 01:25.16 | AvatarA | what about dmesg and the rest? |
| 01:25.34 | AvatarA | he could try to "journalctl -f > somefile" then enable the NIC card and see if he can catch something |
| 01:25.50 | AvatarA | that is if he has systemd on his system |
| 01:26.11 | MinusFour | he doesn't have systemd |
| 01:26.33 | MinusFour | this is his /var/log/messages |
| 01:26.38 | MinusFour | http://pastebin.com/DAnHh7Z0 |
| 01:26.54 | BullHorn | is debian even a good place for a beginner |
| 01:27.02 | BullHorn | last time i used linux was ubuntu maybe 5 years ago and it was garbage |
| 01:27.20 | AvatarA | what didn't you like about ubuntu? |
| 01:27.20 | elton | no lol |
| 01:27.33 | BullHorn | it kinda-worked |
| 01:27.44 | BullHorn | took me about a week to solve each problem that arised |
| 01:27.48 | elton | debian i feel is too bare bones you need to read a lot of documents and what not to configure everything |
| 01:27.53 | BullHorn | some things were as simple as making some tiny UI changes |
| 01:28.01 | BullHorn | issues with flash, audio, etc |
| 01:29.09 | AvatarA | well thank the big corporations for that |
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| 01:29.14 | AvatarA | and their patents |
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| 01:31.01 | netsca | Is there a reasonthe cmus package is 2.5.0 in stable testing and sid when the newest release is like 2.7 |
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| 01:36.47 | joag | Good night everyone, any good way to see how python is used under Debian for maintaining the operating system, the idea is to keep learning python but at the same time to learn more about the language. |
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| 01:46.21 | joag | I wrote a little python script (250 lines) for gathering Server information, it takes username, password and server(s) as its input and output data for them under a cvs file with different info like os version, ip, netmask, gateway, vm or physical, etc. After this I am reading books but books alone is not helping me to pass my learning curve, the script I had to create it because I needed it but right now I am not working in anything requiring me to write |
| 01:46.21 | joag | more scripts. I have a new idea and it is creating a script to gather info from switches but I find this will be a similar script and I need to keep learning other parts of the language. If anyone can point me to the right direction I'll highly appreaciate your help. |
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| 01:47.24 | svetlana | tzselect says it's 10:47 in Australia/Sydney, but it's 11:47. Why? |
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| 01:53.27 | themill | svetlana: that would imply that your hardware clock is not correctly set to UTC |
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| 01:56.15 | teraflops | svetlana: dual boot? |
| 01:56.20 | svetlana | yes |
| 01:57.33 | teraflops | that's whay it happens |
| 01:58.05 | themill | svetlana: you need to configure each operating system to have the same idea about whether the hwclock is in local time or utc |
| 01:58.37 | teraflops | svetlana: or the easiest way i think is just sync your time at every boot in the linux since windows tales care of it |
| 01:58.41 | teraflops | takes* |
| 01:58.55 | teraflops | ntpwhatever |
| 01:59.12 | svetlana | I rarely boot into Windows, so I think I would like to just fix it in Linux so that it is correct the next time I boot into it |
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| 02:00.41 | teraflops | svetlana: https://wiki.debian.org/DateTime |
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| 02:01.55 | svetlana | thanks; «sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org» appears to have fixed it the time, but hwclock still returns an old value |
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| 02:02.32 | themill | feel free to keep ignoring me |
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| 02:03.43 | svetlana | themill: is hardware clock in utc? hwclock says the time here, not the time in London. I can't possibly figure out how to respond to you, since I haven't found an explanation to how it works, yet |
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| 02:04.12 | themill | Ask about things you don't understand rather than ignore them... |
| 02:04.31 | teraflops | themill: so yo dont recommend just e.g `sudo systemctl enable ntp` |
| 02:04.36 | teraflops | you* |
| 02:04.47 | themill | Note that the time in London is not UTC anyway and I also don't know where "here" is. |
| 02:05.02 | svetlana | here = sydney |
| 02:05.11 | themill | teraflops: having two operating systems fighting over the hwclock isn't a good move |
| 02:05.20 | teraflops | because ... |
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| 02:05.43 | themill | because ntp won't slew the clock by hours |
| 02:06.11 | themill | dpkg: tell svetlana about utc |
| 02:06.43 | svetlana | I would rather have hardware clock set to a time which is easier to process. Since both utc and local time have a daylight saving mode, I have no preference which to follow |
| 02:06.51 | themill | teraflops: I'm not saying that running ntpd is a bad idea, just that it won't fix this problem |
| 02:06.52 | teraflops | and it in dual boot machine is a matter of, lets say 5 second every week? |
| 02:07.01 | teraflops | themill: ah thats right |
| 02:07.22 | svetlana | themill: the message from the bot cut off at '<windo', how do I get more? |
| 02:07.31 | themill | dpkg: tell svetlana about windows utc |
| 02:07.45 | themill | svetlana: utc doesn't have a "daylight saving mode" |
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| 02:08.06 | svetlana | then i should set them both to use utc |
| 02:08.39 | themill | that's normally the best plan, yes |
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| 02:18.23 | asarch | Can you replace an stable package with the similar from backports? If yes, how? I'm interesting in replace Evolution, the stable one cannot handle my Hotmail account :-( |
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| 02:23.06 | markybob | asarch that's the entire point http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 02:24.15 | svetlana | themill: thanks and sorry for being inconsiderate; i was assuming that i can forget about 'new' things at the initial stage, but that was wrong. i think it's working now after i set the hwclock to utc in windows. |
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| 02:41.13 | asarch | Thank you markybob |
| 02:41.17 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
| 02:43.15 | svetlana | https://paste.debian.net/plain/312386 output of «hwclock --debug» it says it's utc and shows the correct utc time, which is OK. But I don't understand the last line. is it supposed to show the local time? I thought the command is not supposed to do that |
| 02:44.23 | svetlana | ,..and ignore that, it says in the man page that the time it shows is local, it's in the -get option section.. |
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| 02:46.05 | locrian9 | git question: On machine#1 I'm issueing a 'git push -u origin master' to my local repo, then on machine#2 I'm issuing a 'git pull'. The machine#2 states "Already up to date", but I'm missing a folder/file that's inside the repository folder. |
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| 03:14.35 | LordSesshomaru | so, in debian 8 I keep gettinng this repeating wont go away error during boot saying firmware: failed to load rt2561s.bin, is there away to fix this? I don't believe the machine is going any farther during boot, or if it is, this spamming error blocks it out |
| 03:15.46 | jordanm | ,file rt2561s.bin |
| 03:15.49 | judd | Search for rt2561s.bin in jessie/amd64: firmware-ralink: lib/firmware/rt2561s.bin |
| 03:16.23 | LordSesshomaru | judd: I'd love to although the machine is currently stucks |
| 03:16.25 | LordSesshomaru | sutck* |
| 03:16.27 | LordSesshomaru | grr |
| 03:16.44 | LordSesshomaru | and its x86 |
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| 04:04.52 | WormFood | xxxx[30306]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bfe7f21c error 4 in xxxx[8048000+13000] <-- in this error message, what exactly is the address? 8048000+13000 doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Is that 805B000? or 8049300? (fuck! I hate Intel notation, and their stupid fuckin' segmented memory) |
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| 04:41.41 | veek | i've installed mono via apt, however wine still insists i need to install it |
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| 04:42.48 | veek | mono-complete |
| 04:43.58 | simonpatapon | mono-devel? |
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| 04:45.15 | markybob | veek, are you using codeweavers? |
| 04:46.09 | veek | markybob, nope just the standard wine |
| 04:46.12 | markybob | veek, it's probably wanting wine mono, not linux mono. http://sourceforge.net/projects/wine/files/Wine%20Mono/4.5.6/wine-mono-4.5.6.msi/download?use_mirror=superb-dca2 and http://wiki.winehq.org/Mono |
| 04:46.17 | veek | simonpatapon, lemme check |
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| 04:47.08 | veek | markybob, ah! thanks |
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| 04:48.26 | veek | so what exactly is linux-mono used for ? |
| 04:49.16 | markybob | veek, you can write native linux .net apps with it |
| 04:49.36 | markybob | veek, but you're trying to use it with windows/wine apps. not gonna work |
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| 04:50.41 | veek | markybob, okay wow so like the C stdlib we now have mono a .net library (or like boost)? |
| 04:50.58 | veek | markybob, you can use gcc or some compiler and create .elf linux apps? |
| 04:51.46 | markybob | veek, i've never gotten into .net so i don't know how it all works on linux, but yes, it makes it native |
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| 04:53.36 | aedinius | does anyone really give files an extension of .elf? |
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| 04:57.09 | candiman | Hi guys I recently bought a razer black widow keyboard, I can't made work the M keys,I made a Python script but wasn't work any help, will be appreciate |
| 04:58.04 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:58.58 | veek | candiman, xmodmap and xev may help |
| 04:58.59 | markybob | candiman, did you set the keyboard shortcut? |
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| 04:59.36 | veek | has anyone got wayland working with xfce or some WM other than the dafault |
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| 05:00.03 | markybob | candiman, i use xfce. you can go to menu->settings->keyboard->application shortcuts. i'm sure others have the same |
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| 05:00.45 | asdasd | Hello |
| 05:01.01 | candiman | markybob I use I3 wm, but i will do that |
| 05:01.34 | asdasd | What version of debian do you people recommend for a prentium 4 with 512 mb of ram |
| 05:01.35 | candiman | veek, thx I will try that |
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| 05:02.24 | asdasd | Mate or xfce |
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| 05:03.21 | markybob | asdasd, i'm running 8.2 on a 512mb ancient server. it works fine. as far as mate vs xfce on that low of a machine, i'd do xfce. http://www.datamation.com/open-source/choosing-desktops-mate-vs-xfce-1.html |
| 05:06.27 | casucci | Hello everyone, I'm having problems with a freeze during boot with Jessie. After a few hard reboots, I can get to desktop. BIOS is from 2009. GPU is Nvidia GT230. Any thoughts? |
| 05:06.44 | asdasd | markybob: What are you using? |
| 05:06.55 | markybob | asdasd, i use xfce |
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| 05:07.50 | veek | asdasd, try olvwm |
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| 05:10.58 | asdasd | markybob: mmmm It seems that xfce doesnt need as much resources as mint. |
| 05:11.04 | asdasd | sorry... mate |
| 05:11.07 | markybob | asdasd, correct |
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| 05:13.37 | asdasd | markybob: Do you know why they decided to not put any video player or music player in debians live cd? |
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| 05:15.30 | markybob | asdasd, *shrug* i didn't even know they hadn't. i always do just basic netinst |
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| 05:16.53 | asdasd | markybob: Great for you. Thats the best way to install debian! However i have a laptop with a dead HD and i only use it from a live USB |
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| 05:17.21 | asdasd | Is there a web page in which i can see all the included packages in the live cd? |
| 05:17.32 | asdasd | Was it maybe because i used mate? |
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| 05:44.20 | angevin | Unix is simple it just takes a genius to understand/apprecate its simplicity. Linux is becoming less like Unix and pandering to the unwashed masses. Linux in the 90s used to be exclusively for geeks. This is a call for all genius to leave linux and come to OpenBSD |
| 05:44.35 | angevin | we don't need many we just need a few geniuses to keep coding for it |
| 05:44.40 | angevin | linux is for moronic idiots |
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| 05:59.27 | veek | anyone familiar with autofs - how do i run a script to mount USB devices |
| 06:00.08 | veek | i have something like /my /etc/auto.my --ghost for the ntfs stuff - i want my usb drives under /my as well |
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| 06:25.00 | martman | im trying to share a directory to a centos guest via nfs. for some reason when i run mount in the guest it just hangs, i have no idea why |
| 06:25.04 | martman | my exports file: /home/martman/nfs/vm vm(rw,no_subtree_check,no_root_squash) |
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| 06:25.14 | martman | and even changed the guest userid to match the hosts' |
| 06:25.17 | martman | any ideas? |
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| 06:29.24 | zykotick9 | martman: crossposting between #ubuntu & #debian is generally frowned upon... just sayin' |
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| 07:03.15 | nickylaudia | what is this error ACPI: no _bcq method found |
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| 07:04.40 | nickylaudia | and while installing debian 8.2 (I downloaded only the first cd) .. I chose to install kde but surprisingly I see a gnome screen but I also notice the presence of .kde folder :D |
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| 07:07.15 | andy_5995 | Did you try switching from gnome to kde through the display manager? |
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| 07:19.42 | onur | Hi guys. I have vim as my default editor set by update-alternatives, but without VISUAL=vim git is trying to start nano, is there any fix without editing git configuration? |
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| 07:21.26 | themill | onur: do you have EDITOR or VISUAL set? |
| 07:25.10 | onur | no thats what I am asking themill, why git is trying to run nano instead of /usr/bin/editor |
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| 07:26.51 | themill | You didn't say anything about EDITOR or whether VISUAL was already set and you are changing it |
| 07:27.02 | themill | or GIT_EDITOR |
| 07:27.13 | onur | ahhh looks like |
| 07:27.19 | onur | I have EDITOR=nano |
| 07:27.27 | themill | that's why I asked :) |
| 07:27.51 | onur | my faulty config sorry :-) |
| 07:28.07 | themill | np |
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| 07:40.02 | miskatonic | I finally figured how to start the first display on tty7 instead of eating the tty from which it was started |
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| 07:51.16 | zykotick9 | rather likes startx "eating" the tty from which it started - to each their own |
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| 07:54.26 | phy1729 | zykotick9: don't forget to lock that tty though |
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| 07:56.38 | zykotick9 | phy1729: now, that is an interesting idea... not really an issue for "me", but I can see the potential security issue there. thanks for the "food for thought" anyways :) |
| 07:57.15 | phy1729 | my solution: https://github.com/phy1729/dotfiles/blob/master/.zshrc#L54 |
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| 08:16.54 | sunkan | Anybody here familiar with lightdm? I can't login and don't get what error is actually occuring. Login with kdm and console based works fine. Have created a session that just launches xterm to rule out KDE as the issue. |
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| 08:58.25 | pragomer1 | hi. I want to edit the title of a grub2 menu entry: "Windows Boot Manager (auf /dev/sda2)" How do I change /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to "Windows 8" ???? |
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| 09:00.12 | valdyn | pragomer1: /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober is a shell script - you learn to write those or you better dont touch this stuff |
| 09:01.26 | pragomer1 | valdyn: I found this tutorial (for ubuntu of course): http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1287602 They replace the string.. but exactly following this no changes are made to my menu (i did update-grub) |
| 09:02.24 | valdyn | pragomer1: now youre asking me to debug / rewrite your/their shell script - nope |
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| 09:03.17 | valdyn | pragomer1: update-grub is correct though, that executes those scripts |
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| 09:07.53 | g00se | If i set up a script in sudoers with NOPASSWD, does that mean that privileged calls inside that script will be under the same umbrella? |
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| 09:11.21 | valdyn | g00se: you dont get asked a password a 2nd time no matter if you use NOPASSWD or not in one sudo call |
| 09:12.35 | sunkan | Finally found the problem /etc/X11/Xsession (which is from 2007 on this old machine - but still same as on new install) was not executable. |
| 09:12.49 | sunkan | [pid 2167] execve("/etc/X11/Xsession", ["/etc/X11/Xsession", "/usr/bin/xterm"], [/* 20 vars */] <unfinished ...> |
| 09:12.56 | sunkan | [pid 2167] <... execve resumed> ) = -1 EACCES (Permission denied) |
| 09:12.58 | g00se | OK. But is there a 'limit'? I mean, could you make dozens of privileged calls in that script without have to auth again? |
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| 09:13.53 | valdyn | g00se: everything run in sudo runs as root so uh, there's no limit to the "privileged" calls |
| 09:14.25 | g00se | OK, thanks |
| 09:14.31 | chicognu | why when I connect to wireless network takes a long time to I be able to navigate in internet ? |
| 09:14.41 | valdyn | g00se: im not sure where you can get the idea that sudo somehow drops privileges anywhere |
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| 09:14.58 | g00se | 'drops'? |
| 09:15.11 | chicognu | why when I connect to wireless network takes a long time to I be able to navigate in internet ? I don't use any dhcp, everything is configured, gatway, dns, static ip... |
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| 09:15.28 | g00se | chicognu: sudo tail -f /var/log/syslog |
| 09:16.00 | valdyn | g00se: it would have the change the effective user id from root to something else to have to auth again |
| 09:16.36 | chicognu | g00se, where to past ? |
| 09:16.56 | g00se | I see what you mean. I was thinking there could be some kind of 'time limit' |
| 09:17.16 | g00se | chicognu: i didn't mean you to paste, but to watch |
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| 09:18.08 | chicognu | g00se, i don't know what im looking for |
| 09:18.22 | chicognu | may i reconnect to see some message ? |
| 09:18.34 | g00se | I'm guessing that your wireless is struggling for some reason |
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| 09:18.59 | g00se | Take the interface down and bring it up to see what happens |
| 09:19.14 | chicognu | g00se, and other thing, google chrome does not open at all |
| 09:19.46 | chicognu | g00se, after the first connection, reconnect seems normal |
| 09:20.13 | g00se | Yes, you really need to look at that when it's normally at its worst |
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| 09:20.46 | g00se | As for Chrome, are you saying it doesn't come up even when wireless is working properly? |
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| 09:26.25 | chicognu | .... |
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| 09:28.58 | chicognu | g00se, nothing weird in the tail -f |
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| 09:29.22 | chicognu | g00se, sorry, i restart the interface without saying anythig |
| 09:30.02 | g00se | In that case, i'm wondering how you managed to remain connected to this channel |
| 09:30.16 | chicognu | g00se, yes, it don't show up... even when i run it from terminal emulator, the therminal get stuck (not crashed) with out any erro message |
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| 09:30.39 | g00se | Purge it and reinstall it |
| 09:31.20 | chicognu | g00se, I don't think I get disconnect from irc because I shut down the interface... It will be a ping time out only if I took a long time to back... |
| 09:31.28 | g00se | Maybe not purge (if you want to retain your personalization) - just uninstall |
| 09:31.42 | g00se | Maybe |
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| 09:32.06 | g00se | You could be right about the channel |
| 09:32.13 | chicognu | g00se, I don't have any personal information on it, it never opens since the first install, I install updates today and yet it don't open |
| 09:32.23 | g00se | Then DO purge it |
| 09:32.37 | chicognu | what is the command ? apt-get purge ? |
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| 09:33.15 | g00se | aptitude purge chromium-browser;aptitude install chromium-browser; |
| 09:33.17 | anddam | what's the proper tool to manage uefi partitions? |
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| 09:34.03 | chicognu | g00se, the packge i installed was google-chrome-stable |
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| 09:35.07 | g00se | ,v chromium-browser |
| 09:35.08 | judd | Package: chromium-browser on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; squeeze: 6.0.472.63~r59945-5+squeeze6; wheezy: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 37.0.2062.120-1~deb7u1 |
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| 09:36.22 | chicognu | root@debian:~/Downloads# chromium |
| 09:36.23 | chicognu | [1:1:0919/063539:FATAL:sandbox_linux.cc(185)] Check failed: sandbox::Credentials::MoveToNewUserNS(). |
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| 09:36.50 | g00se | Unsupported. What made you do that?? |
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| 09:38.28 | chicognu | g00se, made me do what ? |
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| 09:38.49 | anddam | err, not uefi, GPT |
| 09:39.57 | g00se | Install some weird Chrome |
| 09:40.23 | g00se | anddam: (g)parted supports GTP |
| 09:40.26 | g00se | GTP |
| 09:40.26 | chicognu | g00se, i download it from chrome website |
| 09:40.33 | g00se | Why?? |
| 09:40.51 | chicognu | g00se, dunno |
| 09:40.58 | chicognu | g00se, chrome open as root ? |
| 09:41.19 | chicognu | i think now it maybe the problem... let me log off |
| 09:41.20 | chicognu | brb |
| 09:41.26 | anddam | I've since dropped my chrome insanity, switched to firefox on my macbook and I happily live with iceweasel on my debian systems |
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| 09:42.51 | chicognu | err |
| 09:43.00 | chicognu | chromium does not open as root |
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| 09:43.06 | chicognu | that is the problem |
| 09:43.18 | g00se | Only good thing about Chrome is its process separation. There was talk of getting it in Firefox too, but it hasn't happened afaics |
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| 09:43.45 | chicognu | g00se, chrome was flash support without plugin |
| 09:43.56 | chicognu | i use chrome because of that |
| 09:44.04 | g00se | That's NOT the problem. The problem is that you've installed it in some weird way apparently |
| 09:44.24 | chicognu | g00se, well will test that right now |
| 09:44.44 | g00se | Most sites are now using html5 video so that awful Flash is almost history |
| 09:47.05 | chicognu | root@debian:/home/chicognu/Downloads# dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_i386.deb |
| 09:47.10 | chicognu | lets see what happen |
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| 09:48.49 | chicognu | g00se, the problem is the root thing |
| 09:48.55 | chicognu | chrome does not open as root |
| 09:49.04 | chicognu | and don't give any erro message |
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| 09:49.48 | g00se | That IS true, but my earlier point stands |
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| 09:50.24 | g00se | it's kind of academic, since you shouldn't be running an app like that as root anyway |
| 09:50.54 | chicognu | i don't get what is all about the root stuff |
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| 09:51.39 | chicognu | if some one get access to a user account, and that user have adm privilegies, soon or late the attack will be able to get root |
| 09:52.11 | chicognu | just wait to a su or sudo command, it is done... |
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| 09:53.13 | anddam | chicognu: I recommend spawning eggdrops as root then |
| 09:53.29 | anddam | (I don't, sarcasm alert) |
| 09:54.54 | anddam | chicognu: also chrome doesn't run flash without a plugin, it just ships its own builtin plugin |
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| 09:55.16 | fennesz | Hello is there a reason I can send a file via bluetooth from debian to android phone but not vice versa? |
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| 09:57.41 | chicognu | anddam, if it is ship with, and i don't need to install, since I'm not a programmer, to all that matters, it just run flash with no "need of plugin". Inner, it is possible that chrome was a flash plugin, to end user it is native flash support. |
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| 10:00.12 | anddam | chicognu: I'm not sure what you're saying |
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| 10:01.29 | chicognu | fennesz, in order to be able to receive files from a paired device enable the following options in "Personal File Sharing Preferences" (/usr/bin/gnome-file-share-properties): Receive Files over Bluetooth / Receive files in Downloads folder over Bluetooth Receive Files over Bluetooth / Notify about received files |
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| 10:01.50 | chicognu | fennesz, https://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser check if that helps |
| 10:02.04 | fennesz | chicognu, thank you very much |
| 10:03.11 | fennesz | do you guys know any good image hosting site ? What would you recommend |
| 10:03.46 | g00se | I don't use them. Some people use imgur |
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| 10:04.50 | chicognu | anddam, put your self in the position of a total newbie to computers... if you don't need to install anything to run flash or java or anything into your browser, it seems to end user there is no need of plugin at all. The browser support it natively. If in the inner code there is a plug in it a programmer thing to the end user the broser don't need a plugin ro run flash |
| 10:04.52 | chicognu | run |
| 10:04.58 | fennesz | me too , but would like to post some pictures of my broken laptop screen so I can get some troubleshooting advice, g00se |
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| 10:05.18 | chicognu | imgur is the best |
| 10:05.36 | chicognu | no registration need, images are keep "forever" |
| 10:05.46 | fennesz | ok I will do this chicognu |
| 10:05.53 | fennesz | nice ! |
| 10:06.09 | fennesz | Any chance anyone here uses asus laptop (n56j)? |
| 10:06.12 | fennesz | :) |
| 10:06.21 | chicognu | fennesz, why ? |
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| 10:07.23 | fennesz | chicognu, today the back of my laptop screen pop out . I want to know if this is glued or something else |
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| 10:07.35 | chicognu | pictures |
| 10:07.46 | anddam | chicognu: the total newbie wouldn't be able to install the browser in first place anyway |
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| 10:08.11 | chicognu | anddam, point less discussion... lets talk about any other subject |
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| 10:09.55 | fennesz | chicognu, will do in a moment . still uploading |
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| 10:12.43 | anddam | chicognu: correct, the real point is don't install third party packages and expect support on channel |
| 10:13.02 | fennesz | chicognu, http://imgur.com/S3px9W4 |
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| 10:14.24 | fennesz | chicognu, http://imgur.com/0jxN352 |
| 10:15.30 | madmattco | push it back together. should snap back |
| 10:16.07 | chicognu | anddam, wrong, the correct point maybe don't expect support from you on any subject, just point less argue |
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| 10:17.56 | fennesz | madmattco, it doesn't unfortunately . |
| 10:18.10 | fennesz | that's why I am asking if this is glued together |
| 10:18.13 | chicognu | fennesz, and if don't cyanoacrylate glue to hold it in place and epoxy glue to fix it forever |
| 10:18.54 | madmattco | i have an asus n61jq and it snaps in place. if youre is glued, just get some superglue and glue it back |
| 10:19.06 | madmattco | or epoxy |
| 10:19.12 | fennesz | ok will do that |
| 10:19.20 | fennesz | have superglue right now |
| 10:19.46 | fennesz | anyway I will try that and post results ! |
| 10:19.47 | madmattco | just make sure you glue it at the contact points. not just the edge |
| 10:20.12 | chicognu | the problem with epoxy is that takes too long to "dry", some drops of super glue will hold it in place when the "real glue" epoxy, "dry" |
| 10:20.13 | chicognu | :) |
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| 10:20.27 | fennesz | cool! |
| 10:20.40 | fennesz | sorry guys I have to go ! I really appreciate your help ! |
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| 10:21.04 | chicognu | expert in glue thing, already glued fingers and eyes. |
| 10:21.20 | chicognu | fingers i glue for fun |
| 10:21.34 | chicognu | the eyes was an accident |
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| 10:24.23 | jalalsfs | After installing upgrading windows 7 to windows 10, I lost my grub in debian jessie, how can I re-install it? |
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| 10:26.15 | anddam | is the usage of .config and .local compliant to some XDG specification? |
| 10:26.47 | anddam | I'm in a xfce session using lightdm, at login a couple apps start and I'm not sure why is that |
| 10:26.50 | chicognu | jalalsfs, not sure if windows 10 uses uefi or old boot scheme |
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| 10:27.08 | anddam | I guess it's either a .config/.local thing or an xfce custom thing (if it's not following xdg) |
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| 10:28.14 | anddam | jalalsfs: boot from an install disk, do the mount dance, chroot and reinstall grub |
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| 10:29.14 | anddam | jalalsfs: notice that that "grub" wasn't actually in jessie, it (usually) lives outside of the system and in any case it lives before the latter is started |
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| 10:30.46 | anddam | I think there's a factoid for that, but I'm not sure |
| 10:32.22 | jalalsfs | Okay, I will try it, thanks |
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| 10:45.12 | Marezz | hi everyone, can someone please give me the link for Debian 7.9 download? |
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| 10:49.00 | erxeto | Hi everyone, maybe a little off-topic but, any of you can recommend a good RSS reader ? (the simpler the better, ncurses is a plus) |
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| 10:49.31 | SolarNRG | what's the best linux game? |
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| 10:51.47 | MMukherjee | SolarNRG: Sauerbraten and Inexor |
| 10:52.02 | MMukherjee | Sauerbraten with ComEd is the best :P |
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| 10:53.21 | erxeto | SolarNRG: that probably depends on your taste. I've played OpenTTD in the past. |
| 10:53.25 | jelly | dpkg, tell Marezz about install wheezy |
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| 10:54.14 | SolarNRG | are they free? |
| 10:54.24 | SolarNRG | oh open transport tycoon deluxe |
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| 10:54.30 | xkpe | I'm having a curious problem, I create a folder and set the permissions to a different user, but then I can delete it with my user: https://paste.debian.net/312418/ |
| 10:55.29 | jelly | xkpe: this is normal, you have write permission in the directory there /data/mongodb is stored |
| 10:55.55 | erxeto | SolarNRG: you can waste so many hours there ... |
| 10:56.13 | jelly | xkpe: since /data is 0777, anyone can delete any directory entry in /data, be they files, dirs or something else |
| 10:56.21 | MMukherjee | yeah |
| 10:56.25 | MMukherjee | Sauerbraten is full free. |
| 10:56.29 | SolarNRG | In your opinion, what would be a more productive use of my time rather than play computer games and sponge off relatives? |
| 10:56.37 | MMukherjee | ZLIB |
| 10:56.49 | xkpe | jelly, thanks ! |
| 10:57.04 | MMukherjee | Sauer. is the best Linux FPS game imo |
| 10:57.57 | jelly | SolarNRG: if you want to chat, go to ##chat but please keep this channel for tech support with debian issues |
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| 10:58.52 | SolarNRG | ok how can I spend my hours on a debian os making money rather than costing money? |
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| 11:01.55 | jelly | SolarNRG: again, not a support question |
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| 11:03.58 | jelly | SolarNRG: I'll pretend you were serious and tell you to ask in #debian-offtopic, read about where people use it and to what purposes |
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| 11:05.29 | SolarNRG | thanks, it was a serious question, I am a genuine gaming addict and I feel my addiction to gaming has lead me to live an unproductive life so far. Also since I ditched windows last month I've mainly been playing starbound and ksp on debian |
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| 11:10.41 | metaspike | bananian brought me here |
| 11:11.55 | SynrGy | welcome. do you have a debian support question? |
| 11:12.05 | SynrGy | if so, just ask |
| 11:12.10 | vyadhaka | ssh to a VM with host-only network adapter is not working from the Windows host, I tried ssh root@192.168.56.99 and it works fine. but when I try this from the windows host it fails with "Permission denied (publickey,password,keyboard-interactive)." I changed the settings in sshd_config to "passwordauthentication yes" |
| 11:13.16 | SynrGy | that's insufficient |
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| 11:13.33 | SynrGy | you would need also PermitRootLogin yes |
| 11:13.46 | vyadhaka | yes thats changed as well |
| 11:13.55 | vyadhaka | SynrGy: |
| 11:13.57 | SynrGy | and you restarted the service? |
| 11:14.01 | vyadhaka | yes |
| 11:14.10 | vyadhaka | also tried a normal user account, same issue |
| 11:14.21 | SynrGy | ah. you're only failing from the windows host. |
| 11:14.56 | SynrGy | sounds like it selects your public key and fails to connect because you haven't authenticated that key |
| 11:15.20 | SynrGy | you could use ssh -v and see what happens |
| 11:15.22 | jelly | which client on the windows host, and can you add verbosity to see what it tries? |
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| 11:15.47 | joker_89 | what happens if i have ip address as 192.168.1.190 in eth0 |
| 11:15.47 | SynrGy | hm, yeah. i'm assuming openssh. ssh -v should work for that. if another client, i don't know |
| 11:15.48 | vyadhaka | cygwin |
| 11:15.58 | joker_89 | but in hostname and resolv.conf i have 192.168.0.190 |
| 11:16.02 | SynrGy | cygwin isn't a client. it's a platform |
| 11:16.09 | joker_89 | i need to connect via ssh |
| 11:16.11 | SynrGy | is it openssh? |
| 11:16.20 | vyadhaka | yes openssh |
| 11:16.23 | vyadhaka | server |
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| 11:16.53 | jelly | joker_89: connect to that system, or from that system to someplace else? |
| 11:17.01 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: the server is openssh. the client is openssh too (on cygwin)? |
| 11:17.24 | vyadhaka | not sure how to check the client on cygwin |
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| 11:17.29 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: if it's openssh client, you can use 'ssh -v' to get more verbosity. then put the results at paste.debian.net, please |
| 11:17.32 | joker_89 | i dont have any screen |
| 11:17.35 | joker_89 | any monitor |
| 11:17.42 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: just try it. we'll see soon if it helped |
| 11:17.46 | jelly | vyadhaka: run "ssh -V" |
| 11:17.57 | joker_89 | ok i have connected to it |
| 11:17.58 | jelly | uppercase -V will tell the version of the software |
| 11:18.16 | vyadhaka | ok used ssh -v and it tries public key first then password and then fails |
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| 11:18.56 | Marezz | Is Debian 7.9 without systemd? |
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| 11:19.15 | jelly | Marezz: it's not default, but can be installed if needed |
| 11:19.26 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: it tries password but doesn't prompt for it? what is the failure message? it would be nice to see your results at paste.debian.net |
| 11:19.36 | Marezz | jelly you mean that its not using systemd by default? |
| 11:19.54 | jelly | Marezz: correct, debian 7 uses sysvinit by default |
| 11:20.05 | Marezz | jelly, exellent, thanks |
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| 11:20.09 | jelly | Marezz: if you want systemd, best install Debian 8 |
| 11:20.36 | SynrGy | systemd was 'preview' only in Debian 7. |
| 11:21.10 | jelly | Marezz: if you don't want systemd and that's the only reason to use the old release, also install Debian 8 then switch back to sysvinit |
| 11:21.29 | Marezz | jelly, yes, only reason i am installing an old release |
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| 11:21.55 | jimcooncat | Please help me figure out cdparanoia as I would like to just test an audio CD without saving ripped data to a file. I was hoping to just redirect to /dev/null but I'm not doing it right. |
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| 11:22.33 | SynrGy | Marezz: the release notes for Debian 8 tell you how to install without sysvinit, or you can switch it back after the install. |
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| 11:23.56 | SynrGy | Marezz: https://www.debian.org/releases/jessie/amd64/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#systemd-upgrade-default-init-system |
| 11:24.29 | jelly | SynrGy: that's for an upgrade, not the initial install |
| 11:24.33 | SynrGy | ah, hmm. that tells how to prevent it on upgrade |
| 11:24.34 | SynrGy | yeah |
| 11:24.39 | SynrGy | just read it carefully :0 |
| 11:24.40 | jelly | http://people.skolelinux.org/pere/blog/How_to_stay_with_sysvinit_in_Debian_Jessie.html |
| 11:24.41 | SynrGy | :)* |
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| 11:24.51 | vyadhaka | SynrGy: https://paste.debian.net/312421/ |
| 11:25.38 | jelly | SynrGy: no, it pretty much misses the opportunity to explicitely tell the preseed boot param needed for an initial installation |
| 11:25.42 | Marezz | jelly, once again, thanks, you are really helpful! :) |
| 11:25.47 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: i see. so you did actually enter the password |
| 11:26.08 | SynrGy | jelly: "[I] just read it carefully" |
| 11:26.08 | vyadhaka | yes |
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| 11:26.22 | SynrGy | jelly: in other words, i was agreeing |
| 11:27.00 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: is it possible the windows host messes up the keyboard settings in such a way that some character you are typing in the password is not correct. |
| 11:27.14 | vyadhaka | I have used ssh several times before, never came across this issue, but I havent used debian for a while, |
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| 11:27.26 | jelly | SynrGy: ah, you meant read not read |
| 11:27.36 | SynrGy | jelly: past tense, yes :) |
| 11:27.46 | SynrGy | curse you, English |
| 11:27.58 | vyadhaka | SynrGy: tired putty, same issue, any suggestions |
| 11:28.14 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: answer my question about keyboard layout? :) |
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| 11:29.40 | SynrGy | if you're not using the exact same keyboard layout on the host that succeeds and the one that fails, some keys for characters present in the password may not be what you think they are. |
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| 11:30.21 | SynrGy | you could type them out at the command line prompt to see if they're correct, but then delete them before pressing enter so they don't go into your command history |
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| 11:32.23 | vyadhaka | SynrGy: it's not the keyboard |
| 11:33.51 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: then perhaps the server you are connecting to is not the server you think you're connecting to |
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| 11:34.12 | SynrGy | vyadhaka: you ought to be able to see in a log somewhere if there was an attempt with the same timestamp |
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| 11:34.53 | SynrGy | in /var/log/auth.log, for example, something like: |
| 11:34.55 | SynrGy | Sep 19 07:50:38 lear sshd[19849]: Accepted publickey for synrg from 192.168.1.1 port 55317 ssh2: RSA b0:a3:16:93:6e:93:42:38:54:69:63:0c:37:0e:79:bd |
| 11:35.16 | SynrGy | (or a corresponding failure message) |
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| 11:40.19 | jelly | have non-{i386,amd64} arches for squeeze gone to archive.d.o yet? |
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| 11:41.37 | anddam | wow mldonkey-server is sitting down my home router, pinging in LAN went up to 2-3 s |
| 11:41.39 | vyadhaka | SynrGy: there are not failure messages in /var/log/auth.log |
| 11:41.49 | anddam | it didn't use to |
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| 11:49.55 | veek | how do i boost the volume above 100% |
| 11:50.57 | veek | alsa |
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| 11:56.20 | anddam | veek: do you have an alsa mixer? |
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| 11:59.45 | veek | anddam, yes |
| 11:59.59 | veek | anddam, maxxed out PCM and Colume |
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| 12:00.33 | veek | anddam, there was a way to juice the thing by messing with a .file |
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| 12:01.44 | anddam | veek: can't help you, sorry |
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| 12:04.06 | metaspike | get a 3.5 patch cable and feedback to your line-in? |
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| 12:04.48 | anddam | positive feedback for the win |
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| 12:05.12 | anddam | I don't have netstat man page, I get told to check 'man 7 undocumented' but then I don't have that either |
| 12:05.34 | anddam | is there any specific package I have to install in order to have the latter? |
| 12:05.41 | anddam | also why is netstat missing a man page? |
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| 12:23.10 | g00se | man ls netstat |
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| 12:27.15 | g00se | Actually man -w netstat would be better |
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| 12:42.45 | azswa | Hi, don't seem to be able to connect to wifi using text mode only. wlan0 is up Used this method http://www.hofrock.com/setting-up-wi-fi/ to try and connect but no luck so far. iw wlan0 lin shows that I am not connected. Any advice? |
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| 12:47.56 | Jazz86 | hi |
| 12:49.23 | GoGi_ | what is the password on the standard live cd? |
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| 12:50.46 | g00se | live |
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| 12:51.08 | g00se | (It's that for debian-live anyway) |
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| 12:57.44 | g00se | azswa: You might get some clues as to why from dmesg |
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| 13:26.54 | d0uglas | Hi folks. I'm seeing systemd keeping my disk very busy, about as close to 100% minus whatever other processes are contributing to the use; is that normal for systemd to be this aggressive? |
| 13:27.46 | d0uglas | .. I am running a website that gets a fair amount of traffic dishing out images with ngx_pagespeed doing a lot of crunching |
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| 13:35.42 | d0uglas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:41.07 | ap0calypse | hi people, could someone tell me what it takes to get a package into the debian repos? |
| 13:41.26 | ap0calypse | i'm no debian user, so i don't know unfortuantely |
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| 13:43.13 | markybob | !mentors |
| 13:43.13 | dpkg | well, mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 13:45.37 | ap0calypse | sorry, got disconnected |
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| 13:45.50 | ap0calypse | did anyone reply anything to my question? |
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| 13:45.50 | markybob | ap0calypse, did you see my response? |
| 13:45.54 | ap0calypse | no sorry |
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| 13:46.10 | markybob | !mentors |
| 13:46.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, mentors is the system the Debian project uses to train new people to become Debian Developers or Debian Maintainers and get their packages into the Debian archive. Ask me about <nmg>. http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/ http://mentors.debian.net/ #debian-mentors on irc.debian.org (irc.oftc.net). |
| 13:46.51 | ap0calypse | soooo, i ask in #debian-mentors? :D |
| 13:47.01 | sdschulze | I have a question about aptitude: When you look at http://pastebin.com/P4wdvSw6 , it shows the available versions of the package, but it doesn't show that 0.6.11-1+b1 is from jessie and that 0.7.1-1 is from stretch/sid. This often forces me to look up a package via apt-cache policy. Can I configure aptitude to show me this information directly along with the version number? |
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| 13:47.32 | markybob | ap0calypse, on OFTC, not freenode |
| 13:47.37 | ap0calypse | aaaah |
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| 13:47.39 | ap0calypse | i just wondered |
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| 13:49.11 | apdapreturns | How do I write debian-8.2.0-amd64-netinst.iso to an USB drive in Windows? I tried DD for Windows and Win32DiskImager (which just gave me a 400kb USB drive with the EFI folder) and Rufus (both in ISO and DD mode) |
| 13:49.36 | apdapreturns | ISO mode in Rufus boots me to a GRUB command line, and DD mode just gives me the broken USB drive with no files |
| 13:50.22 | veek | how do you get C-Backspace to work.. stty -a erase is set to ^H |
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| 13:52.29 | markybob | apdapreturns, sounds like you renamed the iso to img instead of changing the filter to "." |
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| 13:53.46 | themill | apdapreturns: did you actually try the USB device after writing with dd or win32diskimager? |
| 13:54.26 | apdapreturns | I did not, markybob. themill, I did not. |
| 13:55.07 | apdapreturns | The USB drive only contained a "boot.efi" file inside other folders, so I did not test. |
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| 13:57.01 | apdapreturns | The file structure of the USB after using Win32DiskImager: G:\efi\boot\bootx64.efi |
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| 13:57.46 | apdapreturns | The MD5 for the ISO matches |
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| 14:02.31 | g00se | has never quite worked out why USB images are not supplied |
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| 14:03.18 | themill | eh? |
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| 14:04.16 | apdapreturns | Rebooted and tested: I can not select any option |
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| 14:04.30 | apdapreturns | I do have the menu showing up, though. Not more than that, themill |
| 14:05.36 | themill | In what way can you not select an option? No keyboard? No mouse? |
| 14:05.54 | apdapreturns | I don't get any response from Enter or the arrow keys |
| 14:06.06 | apdapreturns | It's just frozen and I see "Install" "Install with Graphical Menu" (I think), etc |
| 14:06.24 | themill | What sort of keyboard is it? |
| 14:06.43 | apdapreturns | It's an USB keyboard. |
| 14:07.36 | qman__ | Probably the IOMMU problem |
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| 14:08.05 | qman__ | You can either toggle it in BIOS or provide the right boot option to the kernel |
| 14:08.24 | apdapreturns | Isn't it incorrect that I just have a 398KB USB drive for Debian, though? |
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| 14:08.53 | obiwahn | is it possible that nodejs on debian is kinda ols? even on sid? |
| 14:09.49 | qman__ | apdapreturns: not necessarily, it may have more than one partition |
| 14:10.18 | Moarderp | Hey. I'm currently in the process of setting up a VM of Debian but I feel like I have downloaded the wrong one. Could someone point me in the right direction? |
| 14:10.43 | apdapreturns | http://i.imgur.com/0IvJalI.png |
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| 14:10.50 | qman__ | apdapreturns: This specific problem happens all the time with AMD systems and the IOMMU |
| 14:10.58 | apdapreturns | It's an Intel system |
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| 14:11.55 | apdapreturns | I'll check if I can write another distro to the USB, then from that distro I'll DD Debian from it. |
| 14:12.00 | g00se | apdapreturns: you can expect Windows to read Linux partitioning properly |
| 14:12.33 | qman__ | It's a hybrid iso, I don't know if disk part can read that |
| 14:13.14 | qman__ | But seriously, before you do all that, toggle the iommu |
| 14:13.17 | g00se | Actually even the linux tools get confused by disk image partitioning |
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| 14:13.27 | qman__ | It takes like 5 minutes to try |
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| 14:13.35 | apdapreturns | What is the IOMMU function? |
| 14:13.41 | apdapreturns | Do I reenable after installing? |
| 14:13.50 | Moarderp | Should I download i386 as I have an i5? |
| 14:14.01 | hypermist | any guides on creating your own debian distrubtion ? |
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| 14:14.11 | qman__ | You reenable after you identify why it wasn't working and address that, if you want |
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| 14:14.18 | apdapreturns | I'll test |
| 14:14.18 | repz | Hi everybody, i'm looking for a lil help about iptables config, I have a server with some IP Failover cfg on it and i'm looking to allow some services only on a specified IPFO but i'm a bit lost |
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| 14:14.28 | markybob | Moarderp, amd64 |
| 14:14.38 | Moarderp | Thanks markybob |
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| 14:16.08 | shingouz | wtf is wrong with one of my boxen? any outgoing filetransfer (scp, netcat, whatever) stalls unless i am using the same interface to suck in data at the same time? the box in question receives quite nicely, it just refuses to transmit anything for more than a few seconds to a few minutes. hints on what to check? |
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| 14:17.19 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 14:17.56 | nyef | shingouz: If it was the other way around, I'd suggest that it could be an IRQ problem. Could still be an IRQ problem, I guess... |
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| 14:18.18 | eptalon | Suppose I have 3 disks that were part of a raid5, plus one that also was, but that is faulty (hw errors), how do I assemble that array using mdadm into a raid5, and not a raid0? |
| 14:18.24 | eptalon | (debian sid)? |
| 14:19.03 | qman__ | mdadm --assemble --scan |
| 14:19.23 | eptalon | qman__: ...gives a raid0, with all disks. |
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| 14:19.54 | qman__ | you can specify them manually, but that Most likely means the array is gone |
| 14:20.18 | JyZyXEL | a degraded raid5 is pretty close to a raid0 |
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| 14:20.39 | shingouz | nyef: the funny thing is that to the best of my knowledge nothing has changed on the affected box, i have not even done the update/upgrade cycle that might change something |
| 14:20.42 | eptalon | JyZyXEL: degraded, dirty. |
| 14:20.54 | qman__ | The options are in the manual, there's a switch to specify level |
| 14:21.06 | nyef | shingouz: Which suggests possible hardware failure? |
| 14:21.10 | eptalon | qman__: unfortunately not for assemble. |
| 14:21.39 | qman__ | mdadm --examine /dev/sda |
| 14:21.40 | JyZyXEL | assemble assumes you have valid md superblocks on your devices |
| 14:21.44 | qman__ | For each member |
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| 14:21.56 | qman__ | Check if any of them have your correct info |
| 14:22.14 | eptalon | qman__: /dev/sd[acd]1 do have valid ones |
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| 14:22.47 | eptalon | ie the partition, not the disk. |
| 14:22.48 | qman__ | so where's it getting the raid from? At least one of them is wrong |
| 14:23.02 | eptalon | sec, brb |
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| 14:23.24 | JyZyXEL | qman__: you got multiple superblocks on the device at different offsets? |
| 14:23.33 | qman__ | In any case the manual way is mdadm --assemble /dev/sda1 /dev/sdc1 /dev/sdd1 |
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| 14:23.46 | zoei | my computer just crashed, but there is nothing in the logs /var/log/dmesg, syslog, or kern.log (i'm on debian unstable) |
| 14:23.55 | qman__ | But you want to use only disks with the correct settings on them |
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| 14:24.53 | qman__ | Scan is picking p the raid0 setting from somewhere, and that's why its doing it |
| 14:26.37 | JyZyXEL | perhaps you have an old superblock somewhere on the device |
| 14:26.52 | JyZyXEL | and its picking up that instead of the correct one |
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| 14:27.24 | shingouz | nyef: for one type of connection? i see that as a bit unlikely but it has to be checked. unfortunately mrs shingouz just called me so i must go provide a taxi service. bbiab |
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| 14:28.09 | nyef | I just installed jessie last night, and I'm having trouble pairing my Apple bluetooth keyboard. The mouse paired easily, but the keyboard is being a major pain, and nothing I've found via Google has helped. |
| 14:29.36 | g00se | is losing his marbles - the new hybrid iso images ARE the usb images - doh |
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| 14:29.53 | amicuscuriae | hey whenever I install new application why won't it show in Menu? |
| 14:29.58 | amicuscuriae | What is the problem? |
| 14:30.17 | centrx | amicuscuriae, How are you installing the new application? |
| 14:30.35 | g00se | zoei: if you can see nothing in logs, start with hardware diagnostics |
| 14:31.24 | repz | Does anybody could help with my iptables cfg ? |
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| 14:31.57 | amicuscuriae | centrx, aptitude install leksah |
| 14:31.58 | amicuscuriae | like this? |
| 14:31.59 | g00se | repz: there is also #netfilter |
| 14:32.06 | repz | where nobody replies ;( |
| 14:32.07 | repz | sadly |
| 14:32.10 | nb-ben | amicuscuriae: unlike with Windows, where applications are in charge of installing themselves, in Debian the installation is performed upon the software |
| 14:32.29 | g00se | I don't do them personally |
| 14:32.42 | nb-ben | amicuscuriae: if you use apt-get then this tool will take care of creating a Menu entry for you |
| 14:33.01 | amicuscuriae | nb-ben, So which one is better, aptitude or apt-get? |
| 14:33.07 | nb-ben | amicuscuriae: what package did you install? |
| 14:33.11 | amicuscuriae | apt-get has search issues |
| 14:33.13 | g00se | !why aptitude |
| 14:33.14 | dpkg | aptitude has more advanced conflict/dependency resolution and will often find a solution where apt-get gives up. It can be used from the command line like apt-get plus an interactive resolver makes it much easier to recover from broken dependencies. It has advanced search capabilities (see <aptitude search>). For some upgrades, apt-get is preferred (e.g. <lenny->squeeze>, <squeeze->wheezy>). http://tinyurl.com/3g4d4d9. |
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| 14:33.52 | nyef | ... Am I going to have to reboot to OSX, pair the keyboard there, find the link key, reboot back to Linux, and hack something in /var/lib/bluetooth to get this to work? |
| 14:33.55 | amicuscuriae | nb-ben, leksah an Haskel IDE |
| 14:34.02 | amicuscuriae | I don't know what to do |
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| 14:34.09 | amicuscuriae | whenever I install anything it just won't work |
| 14:34.11 | amicuscuriae | :/ |
| 14:34.13 | amicuscuriae | Nothing in Menu |
| 14:34.25 | nb-ben | amicuscuriae: is it available via terminal? |
| 14:35.02 | amicuscuriae | nb-ben, it is also available with alt+f2 type the name |
| 14:35.20 | nb-ben | I wonder why apt-get is the more popular tool if this explanation isnt omitting information |
| 14:35.32 | g00se | amicuscuriae: Not everything ends up in desktop menus |
| 14:35.52 | nb-ben | amicuscuriae: perhaps this package is missing a menu entry |
| 14:36.04 | g00se | Good question. Possibly historic |
| 14:36.06 | amicuscuriae | g00se, nb-ben ok |
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| 14:36.45 | g00se | personally would not care if nothing ended up in a menu |
| 14:36.45 | fcp14 | hello please i'm tryng to use python on my debian and i think it's broken |
| 14:36.46 | nb-ben | g00se: i thought that aptitude percedes apt-get |
| 14:36.51 | fcp14 | anyone can help please |
| 14:37.07 | g00se | No. The former depsnds on the latter |
| 14:37.12 | amicuscuriae | g00se, nb-ben have you tired Linux 4? My new laptop is freezing sometimes its i5-4130 |
| 14:37.26 | Moarderp | Well, Debian is almost installed. Don't know what I can do with it, or where to start... Today is going to be an adventure. |
| 14:37.34 | fcp14 | i try to pip -version |
| 14:37.39 | fcp14 | and appears https://paste.debian.net/312459/ |
| 14:37.41 | amicuscuriae | I am using Full Disk Encryption and it is not SSD |
| 14:37.47 | amicuscuriae | could it be that? |
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| 14:38.53 | veek | is there an xev like app that works in xterm |
| 14:38.53 | vamps | fire |
| 14:39.00 | vamps | fox... |
| 14:39.08 | veek | i want to check if xterm is mangling my keys |
| 14:39.15 | vamps | sorry :s |
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| 14:40.46 | iamrohit7 | can any one share the syntax of their sources.list? |
| 14:40.50 | nb-ben | all debian does is sort through software and its versions |
| 14:40.51 | centrx | !sources |
| 14:40.52 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
| 14:41.07 | TheLemonMan | veek, you could try your luck with od(1) |
| 14:42.11 | g00se | My priorities are around stability. I don't even use stable yet. I'm on oldstable owing to misgivings around systemd |
| 14:42.30 | centrx | g00se, You can use sysvinit on jessie, just don't use Gnome |
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| 14:43.13 | fcp14 | done :) |
| 14:43.18 | fcp14 | python solved :) |
| 14:43.28 | g00se | centrx: i know. I'm concerned that won't wash eventually |
| 14:44.16 | centrx | g00se, I think it will work forever |
| 14:44.26 | centrx | g00se, Either way, then you can stay on jessie instead of staying on wheezy |
| 14:44.32 | g00se | I just can't see that the effort required to support both will persist |
| 14:45.39 | g00se | centrx: yes to your last - in principle. But i would worry that eventually stuff would start breaking. No such worries with wheezy |
| 14:46.12 | centrx | g00se, stable is stable, it stays the same |
| 14:46.42 | g00se | wouldn't touch Gnome with someone else's barge pole even it wasn't dependent on systemd |
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| 14:47.21 | g00se | centrx: It doesn't - it gets update ;) |
| 14:47.23 | g00se | s |
| 14:48.45 | centrx | g00se, It gets updated for security issues, data integrity, and non-working software |
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| 14:50.15 | g00se | Yes but that *could* cause bugs in a Cinderella init system |
| 14:50.55 | g00se | might try it in a non-critical system |
| 14:51.13 | centrx | g00se, Okay, I don't think it will. I'm using testing/stretch, and I expect sysvinit will continue to work on that - which is the next version after jessie |
| 14:52.13 | g00se | centrx: so you're using sysvinit? |
| 14:53.27 | centrx | yes |
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| 14:54.35 | g00se | Ah |
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| 14:56.06 | g00se | Would a distupgrade from wheezy remain sysvinit? |
| 14:56.47 | centrx | g00se, As I recall, the outcome was that packages/package maintainers can require systemd if they choose, but those dependencies aren't going to change for jessie, and only really applies to disgusting things like Gnome |
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| 14:57.06 | centrx | g00se, I think so. You might want to use aptitude/dselect to ensure it |
| 14:57.12 | jeddi | you know, this is why virtual machines were invented. (well, it's not, but you get my point) |
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| 14:57.59 | themill | g00se: that is documented in the release notes |
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| 14:58.13 | g00se | ok, thanks |
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| 15:04.32 | Moarderp | So I have finished installing Debian and now I have a black screen with a _ at the top left corner? |
| 15:04.35 | Moarderp | And advice? |
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| 15:09.41 | g00se | Moarderp: you didn't install the bootloader properly? |
| 15:10.09 | Moarderp | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.22 | g00se | It almost certainly would |
| 15:11.05 | g00se | Get yourself SystemRescueCD. Boot 'Another linux' install grub on the correct device. Good luck, i'm going |
| 15:11.05 | Moarderp | Ok, I didn't put anything in the box. I guess this is where I went from> |
| 15:11.09 | Moarderp | went wrong** |
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| 15:17.15 | Moarderp | g00se: When the Grub comes up and I want to install it. What do I need to put in the box? |
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| 15:19.32 | SynrG | Moarderp: the device, not partition, that is your boot drive |
| 15:19.54 | SynrG | Often, but not always /dev/sda so make sure |
| 15:20.13 | Moarderp | SynrG: Ok, when I get to that part I will see what I can do. I am installing it through VM Ware so I am not sure at all. |
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| 15:21.15 | pheaneasphreak | grub-install /dev/yourdisk ;then update-grub |
| 15:21.43 | mrfantaz1ic | I can't to echo 'hello' > a_file.txt on a debian docker image, it says permission denined but it has the same permissions as on my local computer where it works, the permissions for the file is 644 |
| 15:22.02 | mrfantaz1ic | what is needed to echo and > to a file? |
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| 15:24.19 | pheaneasphreak | mrfnataz1ic not sure what you mean but sounds like you have to use sudo echo 'hello' > file.txt |
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| 15:24.46 | pheaneasphreak | permission denied you have to use sudo usually |
| 15:25.19 | SynrG | That wouldn't work |
| 15:25.20 | jhutchins | !fixgrub |
| 15:25.20 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), chroot into it (chroot /target), run "mount /boot/efi" on EFI and "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. |
| 15:25.29 | jelly | mrfantaz1ic: what exactly are you trying to run, and how does it fail? |
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| 15:26.20 | SynrG | > is executed in the current shell, not as root |
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| 15:26.22 | jelly | pheaneasphreak: you mean echo hello | sudo tee file.txt >/dev/null |
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| 15:27.36 | mrfantaz1ic | jeezy: I got it to work, I tried to run it from ssh, I had to have w permission for the others so set chmod 646 and it worked :) |
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| 15:31.57 | repz | Hi everybody, i'm looking for a lil help about iptables config, I have a server with some IP Failover cfg on it and i'm looking to allow some services only on a specified IPFO but i'm a bit lost |
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| 15:34.24 | jarlopez | Hey guys. Just switched over to Debian Jessie. Where exactly are ther Terminal's settings stored? I created a test profile and edited its color scheme, but couldn't see anything new under ~/.gconf/ |
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| 15:35.01 | ug | jarlopez: what DE? |
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| 15:35.13 | jarlopez | ug: Sorry, using Gnome |
| 15:35.33 | ug | jarlopez: not familiar with gnome configs, but do you see anything in ~/.config? |
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| 15:36.54 | abrotman | repz: probablyt more something you'd ask #netfilter |
| 15:36.58 | K4j | :o |
| 15:37.19 | repz | yup but nobody replies :/ |
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| 15:39.07 | jarlopez | ug: Ah, thanks. I should've been using dconf-editor, not gconf-editor |
| 15:39.36 | mrfantaz1ic | could someone recomend an easy way of replacing a string in a file with another string? based on regexp |
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| 15:41.01 | jeddi | mrfantaz1ic: sed |
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| 15:41.32 | jeddi | mrfantaz1ic: sed -i "s/stringtoreplace/newstring" filename.foo |
| 15:41.48 | jeddi | mrfantaz1ic: sorry - need a trailing slash. try: |
| 15:41.53 | jeddi | mrfantaz1ic: sed -i "s/stringtoreplace/newstring/" filename.foo |
| 15:42.04 | jhutchins | repz: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
| 15:42.10 | jeddi | mrfantaz1ic: sed -i "s/stringtoreplace/newstring/g" filename.foo # if the stringtoreplace occurs more than once per line. |
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| 15:53.48 | Thonza | I have 4k scraan. What is the command to set resolution so it fits. |
| 15:55.01 | Thonza | And i have this standatd thing |
| 15:55.50 | Thonza | And i do not see the line of commands |
| 15:56.07 | msgebjgd | Thonza, arandr lxrandr |
| 15:56.14 | mrfantaz1ic | jeddi: thanks but when I wrote it, I got sed: couldn't open temporary file ./sedkrZNLS: Permission denied |
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| 15:59.55 | kdog | I need some help. A while ago I implemented one time passwords on a machine I remote into. It worked really well unless I left a ssh open from home. When I'd try to ssh in from work, it would ask me for a contatenation of TWO OTP codes and that never worked. So I backed out the OTP changes, but now when I ssh in my password fails. I know it still works because I can ssh in with a shared key but then if I su |
| 15:59.57 | kdog | it accepts my password fine. |
| 16:01.13 | disconnecht | hi, is there a way to make my AltGr key act as a "windows" key or whatever it's called using setxkbmap? |
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| 16:04.29 | g00se | kdog: bad anyway to use password auth |
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| 16:06.57 | MarkG1234 | Hi, I have a question. I have done a apt-get update;apt-get dist-upgrade and my debian-version is still showing 8.0 is this right? |
| 16:07.22 | MarkG1234 | shouldn't it say 8.2? |
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| 16:11.34 | jeezy | mrfantaz1ic: nice! |
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| 16:13.10 | Wintre | Hi! Is there a variant of Debian that's optimized for hosting a single service inside a VM? |
| 16:13.27 | mrfantaz1ic | jeezy: ? |
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| 16:13.31 | Wintre | For example I have a server at colocation, and I want to put just named into a VM |
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| 16:13.47 | Wintre | but I won't use the VM for anything els |
| 16:14.05 | centrx | MarkG1234, Yeah debian_version should have 8.2 |
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| 16:14.38 | MarkG1234 | Hmm, it's not saying any packages are held back. |
| 16:15.13 | g00se | Wintre: why not just install minimum and then aptitude install named? |
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| 16:15.52 | Wintre | g00se: I haven't decided against that. I'm just wondering if that's the best way to do it |
| 16:16.10 | Wintre | Or if there's something oriented more towards supporting just a single service |
| 16:16.47 | jeezy | mrfantaz1ic: |
| 16:16.50 | jeezy | 10.27* mrfantaz1ic â jeezy: I got it to work, I tried to run it from ssh, I had to have w permission for the others so set chmod 646 and it worked :) â [exa] |
| 16:16.58 | centrx | Wintre, If you want a PaaS or SaaS look for that |
| 16:17.03 | jeezy | you were saying you got something to work |
| 16:17.07 | centrx | Wintre, Otherwise, Debian is excellent for having a minimalistic installation |
| 16:17.26 | Wintre | I'm not looking for a service to subscribe to |
| 16:17.37 | mrfantaz1ic | jeezy: oh! :) thanks |
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| 16:17.45 | jeezy | no problem :) |
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| 16:18.30 | Wintre | I have a machine at a colo. I have a lot of services on it. I'm going to replace it with a new machine, and I'd like to use virtualization on the new one, to isolate the services from each other, to make upgrading easier, etc etc |
| 16:18.47 | Wintre | Mail, HTTP, DNS, etc |
| 16:19.16 | Wintre | Debian is my distro of choice, so that's what I'll use for the host, for the shell VM, etc |
| 16:19.26 | centrx | Wintre, It sounds like you want to run your own cloud |
| 16:19.30 | Wintre | Does it make sense to use it for the service VMs? |
| 16:20.01 | g00se | You're going to have one service per Debian? |
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| 16:20.28 | Wintre | I'm trying to decide how it makes sense to separate it |
| 16:20.29 | joker_89 | hi i want to encrypt 1TB |
| 16:20.36 | joker_89 | and i want to fill it with random data first |
| 16:20.48 | joker_89 | anyone does it? |
| 16:21.15 | g00se | dd if=/dev/urandom ... maybe |
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| 16:21.33 | joker_89 | but |
| 16:21.36 | joker_89 | bs=1M? |
| 16:21.41 | joker_89 | or bs=128M |
| 16:21.42 | joker_89 | for example |
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| 16:22.04 | Wintre | 1M is probably fine |
| 16:22.18 | Wintre | At that point you've already amortized the syscall cost |
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| 16:22.41 | joker_89 | i am using pv-tpreb /dev/urandom | dd of=/dev/mapper/mydata bs=1M |
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| 16:22.53 | joker_89 | what do you mean with syscall cost? |
| 16:23.00 | Wintre | Nvm, doesn't matter |
| 16:23.12 | joker_89 | is the same my command? |
| 16:23.19 | joker_89 | it has a monitor |
| 16:23.23 | jelly | urandom is too slow for that. make a crypto dev and fill that with zeros, instead |
| 16:23.42 | joker_89 | but i have read that random is safer than zeros |
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| 16:24.15 | joker_89 | it runs at 12Mib/s |
| 16:24.19 | joker_89 | 1 day minimum |
| 16:24.37 | g00se | Might be better not to roll your own shred |
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| 16:24.46 | joker_89 | what? |
| 16:25.06 | jelly | safer for what? |
| 16:25.43 | joker_89 | i dont understand |
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| 16:26.00 | joker_89 | i am not an english man |
| 16:26.09 | jelly | ,i shred |
| 16:26.10 | judd | No package named 'shred' was found in jessie/amd64. |
| 16:26.27 | joker_89 | shred? |
| 16:26.35 | kdog | g00se: all security has + and -. My issue now is that I think either the pam settings or sshd settings are causing these failed passwords and I need to figure it out |
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| 16:26.51 | jelly | joker_89: shred is a tool that writes pseudorandom data onto previously used space |
| 16:27.01 | markybob | it's in coreutils |
| 16:27.24 | joker_89 | so, it says that is better not to say how i am going to fill the empty data? |
| 16:27.25 | kdog | What should I check when ssh password fails yet if I use su on the box my password works? |
| 16:27.43 | jelly | joker_89: what says that? |
| 16:27.48 | joker_89 | [g00se] |
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| 16:27.54 | joker_89 | better not to roll |
| 16:27.56 | joker_89 | what does means? |
| 16:28.15 | markybob | kdog your ssh config probably has root denied. look at it |
| 16:28.42 | g00se | What you're attempting do is probably better done by apps that are designed to do it |
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| 16:28.56 | joker_89 | which apps? |
| 16:29.02 | davicr | How do I get PulseAudio to recognize my headphone jacks? |
| 16:29.13 | davicr | The only output option is HDMI / DisplayPort 2 |
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| 16:30.21 | g00se | !tell joker_89 about wipe |
| 16:30.30 | kdog | markybob: PermitRootLogin is set to yes, but I'm logging is as a regular user |
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| 16:33.09 | joker_89 | [kdog] so set to no |
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| 16:35.48 | kdog | joker_89: no effect |
| 16:36.05 | davicr | How do I get PA to detect my headphone jack? |
| 16:36.17 | davicr | Strangely, it only detects HDMI output for audio. |
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| 16:40.04 | nyef | Okay, semi-progress. I have my mouse using the bluetooth link key swiped from OSX, but I still haven't managed to get the keyboard to work, even with the OSX link key. /-: |
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| 16:40.36 | nyef | And I also haven't figured out how to get a change to the configuration file to "take" without rebooting the entire system. |
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| 16:47.20 | kdog | joker_89 markybob: I got it. I had left ChallengeResponstAuthentication set to yes |
| 16:47.21 | g00se | What' the aptitude equivalent to dist-upgrade and is it preferable to apt-get dist-upgrade? |
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| 16:48.31 | kdog | ssh/pam still isn't quite right though because it doesn't work with "UsePAM yes". I'll leave that for another day I guess. |
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| 16:51.28 | SHOTbyGUN | could someone take over this project and fix bugs plz :P ? https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/checkinstall |
| 16:51.59 | SHOTbyGUN | not a single update for 2 and half years :( |
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| 16:55.30 | jalalsfs | Using KDE with debian jessie, but it refuse to run to desktop, after entering username and password nothing shows |
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| 16:56.02 | jalalsfs | I tried to create another users and enter with them accounts but the problem is the same |
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| 16:56.18 | hycer | start x? |
| 16:56.54 | jalalsfs | hycer: X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 16:57.02 | nyef | ... not PINLength=7, then. |
| 16:57.47 | jalalsfs | nyef: This for me? |
| 16:57.56 | nyef | No, for me. |
| 16:58.23 | nyef | Trying to get an Apple Wireless Keyboard working. |
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| 17:00.42 | markybob | SHOTbyGUN, what do you want? it has the latest upstream version |
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| 17:00.58 | markybob | SHOTbyGUN, upstream isn't developing ... |
| 17:01.59 | pflanze | Hello. Does anyone know of a *simple* serial terminal program, one that just works? minicom stopped working for me, while cutecom still works but is a pain to use as a terminal app. |
| 17:02.46 | pflanze | All it needs to do is configure baud rate etc. from command line arguments, then copy in and out between the current terminal and the serial port, right? |
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| 17:03.32 | nyef | pflanze: "cu" |
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| 17:04.54 | SHOTbyGUN | markybob oh? how can I find the "upstream" then? |
| 17:05.04 | markybob | SHOTbyGUN, complain to these guys. http://checkinstall.izto.org/ |
| 17:05.11 | nyef | pflanze: There are a couple of others, but "cu" is fairly easy to work with. |
| 17:05.17 | SHOTbyGUN | thanks markybob |
| 17:05.23 | pflanze | nyef, thanks, trying it |
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| 17:07.55 | jhutchins | pflanze: All I've ever used is minicom. Maybe you should fix whatever problem you have with that. |
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| 17:09.13 | pflanze | jhutchins, if I only knew how. |
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| 17:09.29 | pflanze | First that thing uses lock files. |
| 17:10.18 | pflanze | Then if you kill -9 it, even if there are no lockfiles, it will just hang. Strace shows it in an event look calling select with ~2 sec timeouts, I can see when I'm typing that it copes from to, but it doesn't appear on the serial port. |
| 17:10.28 | pflanze | I just think that tool tries to be too smart, really. |
| 17:10.30 | nyef | My main problem with minicom is how it mangles output to the screen, truncating lines and adding spaces to the end which break copy/paste. |
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| 17:11.41 | pflanze | I noticed that, too, not sure though how you transmit the terminal size over serial port though. |
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| 17:14.33 | SHOTbyGUN | markybob: oh, my bug actually seems to be fixed in their git |
| 17:15.10 | markybob | SHOTbyGUN, git doesn't mean released. we don't package git. releases. you could patch it yourself |
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| 17:15.20 | SHOTbyGUN | alright :/ |
| 17:16.14 | SHOTbyGUN | you mean patch if for myself or patch myself for debian? |
| 17:16.26 | markybob | SHOTbyGUN, for yourself |
| 17:16.31 | pflanze | nyef, how do you use it? 'cu --speed 19200 --port /dev/ttyUSB0' will just say "No matching ports" |
| 17:16.34 | SHOTbyGUN | kk :) |
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| 17:18.46 | Lunara | SHOTbyGUN: whatever you like. |
| 17:18.47 | Lunara | patch it, use it. then share it to debian. |
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| 17:19.23 | teclo- | Hi I've just done apt-get install xfce4, but I don't get a GUI login. I guess I need to install some *dm package, but which one ? |
| 17:20.02 | nyef | pflanze: IIRC, the man page was quite useful. |
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| 17:20.31 | markybob | teclo-, lightdm is what i use |
| 17:20.44 | nyef | pflanze: I just re-installed Debian yesterday, and don't have my usual environment set up yet, so I can't really check for you right now. /-: |
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| 17:20.57 | pflanze | ok, thanks nyef |
| 17:21.09 | teclo- | markybob: ok, gonna install that :) |
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| 17:21.51 | markybob | teclo-, you should probably do apt-get install task-xfce-desktop |
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| 17:24.40 | teclo- | markybob: ah, that I didn't knwo, sorry |
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| 17:26.24 | northstar | slim or lightdm seem ok. |
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| 17:53.22 | Moarderp | Hey |
| 17:53.33 | Moarderp | Could someone tell me how to enter terminal as root |
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| 17:55.20 | jmcnaught | Moarderp: you can use the command "su -" to become root |
| 17:55.54 | Moarderp | jmcnaught: I tried su -i |
| 17:56.12 | dagnostic | I have the "volume is busy" dialogue popping up over and over yet no external devices are plugged in. I cannot restart the machine as I have a long job processing. Is there a way to make the dialogue go away ? |
| 17:56.34 | nyef | Moarderp: The -i flag is for sudo, not for su. The - flag for su says to open a "login" session. |
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| 17:56.56 | jmcnaught | Moarderp: read the man page if you're ever unsure of how to use a command |
| 17:57.10 | Moarderp | Ok. so if I was trying to do 'apt-get remove iceweasel' I would do su -apt-get remove icewease ? |
| 17:57.31 | g00se | Use sudo |
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| 17:59.28 | dagnostic | Moarderp, su elevates to root privileges. Sudo allows you to execute commands as an elevated user without being logged in as root. You just need to make sure your user is in the sudoers group. Try "man sudo" |
| 17:59.30 | Moarderp | Yeh, I have no idea.. |
| 17:59.49 | Moarderp | Please give me an example if I was trying to do the following; apt-get remove iceweasel |
| 18:00.14 | stacks88 | i ran ssh user@hostname "cd directory/;. /home/user/.bashrc;name_of_function" but it said name_of_function: command not found.. basically ive got a function in the .bashrc that simply renames files in current directory.. How can i initialize the .bashrc through ssh hostname "command sections here" |
| 18:00.20 | Moarderp | ahh |
| 18:00.22 | Moarderp | I got it. |
| 18:00.28 | Moarderp | su and then input password |
| 18:00.31 | Moarderp | then execute command |
| 18:00.35 | jmcnaught | Moarderp: why do you want to remove iceweasel? Also su has a -c option |
| 18:00.43 | markybob | Moarderp, no. "sudo apt-get remove iceweasel" |
| 18:01.13 | Moarderp | jmcnaught: I'm new to Linux and have created two copies of the install. Using this one to learn how to do different things. |
| 18:01.15 | dagnostic | Moarderp, it is usually best not to do things while logged in as root. This is the point of using sudo. |
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| 18:02.31 | dagnostic | Moarderp, have you looked through the debian wiki? Also the Linux documentation project is a valuable resource. If you need instructions for ANY command type "man name-of-command" |
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| 18:03.04 | markybob | Moarderp, https://wiki.debian.org/sudo |
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| 18:04.23 | Moarderp | Thanks guys. |
| 18:04.27 | Moarderp | markybob: I'm looking there now. |
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| 18:06.22 | dagnostic | Anyone know what the persistent "volume is busy" dialogue in gnome is likely to be called? I'm looking in top and can't see a likely candidate to kill |
| 18:06.27 | dagnostic | It just won't go away |
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| 18:09.57 | dagnostic | Mevermind it was the file manager freaking out just had to close it in the split second during dialogues |
| 18:10.09 | g00se | dagnostic: isn't the solution to find out WHY it thinks something is busy? |
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| 18:11.45 | dagnostic | g00se, it seems it's having a hard time mounting an iPad. But it's 4am and I'm trying to get something done quickly |
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| 18:27.33 | foo | I am on debian wheezy, can someone shoot me a factoid to upgrade to jessie ? |
| 18:28.15 | markybob | !wheezy->jessie |
| 18:28.59 | foo | markybob: thank you |
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| 18:34.36 | paperfrank | Hi |
| 18:35.15 | paperfrank | I have a USB sound interface, and a built in interface. I am running a fresh Debian install upgraded to testing, with the xfce4 desktop |
| 18:36.16 | paperfrank | If I run VLC and play a song it doesn't output, if I change the interface in VLC to the USB soundcard it plays as expected. |
| 18:36.37 | paperfrank | However the xfce4 mixer doesn't allow me to change the default interface, |
| 18:36.43 | markybob | paperfrank, pavucontrol will let you switch between them. |
| 18:37.27 | paperfrank | when I select usb in the properties dialogue it reselects built in pcm |
| 18:37.36 | paperfrank | this being alsa |
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| 18:37.54 | paperfrank | sudo pactl set-sink-mute 1 0 gives 'no entity' |
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| 18:38.20 | digin4 | Debian FTW! |
| 18:38.26 | laidback_01 | in console there is alsamixer, I tend to use that more often than anything else when dealing with multiple sound cards. You switch between them with F5 or F6 ... can't recall just now. |
| 18:38.35 | asarch | How could I know if a CPU supports PCI pass trhough? |
| 18:38.52 | paperfrank | Yeah, alsamixer curses interface isn't muted |
| 18:39.00 | asarch | For example, Intel H81 |
| 18:39.06 | paperfrank | and i don't know how to 'select' a device from alsamixer just set the elvels |
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| 18:39.36 | paperfrank | i don't know the correct command to use with pactl i am looking at man page now |
| 18:40.54 | markybob | paperfrank, pretty sure i already answered your question |
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| 18:42.52 | paperfrank | Yeah, that didn't work. Such would warrent me asking further |
| 18:43.00 | paperfrank | I will move this question to xfce |
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| 19:04.40 | Styx_47 | hey there |
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| 19:19.22 | asdads | Hello |
| 19:19.48 | asdads | Why is it that i cant boot debian from a live usb but i cant boot mint? Used the same methd: dd |
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| 19:20.09 | asdads | IM using a mbp |
| 19:20.35 | Lunara | asdads: I had the same issue, I was not able to boot a live CD from USB. |
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| 19:21.38 | asdads | Lunara: What did you do? Mint works fine |
| 19:21.46 | Lunara | nothing :P |
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| 19:22.41 | asdads | Lunara: Did you manage to make it work? |
| 19:23.54 | markybob | asdads, it's probably a uefi thing. set it to legacy in your bios |
| 19:23.55 | asdads | Anyone got an idea? |
| 19:24.00 | Lunara | I tried it, but no luck. I noticed that the live CD doesn't support UEFI, and I need UEFI. |
| 19:24.09 | asdads | markybob: I cant |
| 19:24.34 | asdads | However i did manage to boot debian from a live cd but its mate and i want xfce now |
| 19:25.33 | markybob | asdads, https://wiki.debian.org/UEFI#UEFI_support_in_live_images doesn't work with live. you'll have to use the main installation |
| 19:26.03 | asdads | markybob: Is that a netinstall? |
| 19:26.09 | markybob | asdads, and why reinstall just because you want xfce? just install xfce |
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| 19:26.42 | asdads | markybob: I want to keep my system clean |
| 19:26.42 | Lunara | markybob: maybe he want a clean installation |
| 19:26.54 | markybob | so remove mate and install xfce |
| 19:27.01 | markybob | whatever. do what you want |
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| 19:27.37 | asdads | markybob: Is the main installation a netinstall? Or will the (not live) xfce debian image work? |
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| 19:28.08 | Lunara | The live CD will not boot if you have/need UEFI |
| 19:28.11 | markybob | asdads, the xfce (non-live) image should work *if* you don't have secure enabled. |
| 19:28.11 | bla | Can you stop update-grub from putting TWICE unicode font and locales on /boot? I've got system with a > 10y history with 30MB /boot partition. Kernel with initrd fits fine |
| 19:28.49 | asdads | markybob: How can i know if i have secure enabled in a mbp? |
| 19:29.01 | markybob | asdads, look in your bios setup |
| 19:29.41 | asdads | OK. But... how was i able to install debian mate from a livedvd? I used a dvd instead of a live usb and it worked. |
| 19:29.50 | teraflops | Theres no secure boot un a mbp |
| 19:30.04 | teraflops | Apple is efi not uefi |
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| 19:30.17 | markybob | good then |
| 19:30.38 | teraflops | In a* srry |
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| 19:32.10 | asdads | teraflops: So, how can i make it boot in efi? My mbp is from 2010. |
| 19:33.01 | shay_shay | asdads: at the apple boot menu there should be an efi option |
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| 19:33.24 | teraflops | asdads: just press the command key while booting the USB/DVD/CD and select it |
| 19:33.25 | shay_shay | asdads: not on the live dvd however |
| 19:33.37 | shay_shay | livedvd's dont support uefi |
| 19:33.57 | shay_shay | you need the regular install dvd or the netinstall cd |
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| 19:34.45 | shay_shay | and if you plan on dual booting the best way is to make a hfs+ esp |
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| 19:34.59 | shay_shay | but thats a long story :/ |
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| 19:35.20 | shay_shay | http://glandium.org/blog/?p=2830 |
| 19:35.33 | asdads | teraflops: I tried booting the live usb with the alt key and it doesnt work with debian, it does with mint though |
| 19:35.37 | teraflops | Yes shay_shay I find it the saner way just blessing the esp from osx |
| 19:35.43 | shay_shay | yes |
| 19:35.49 | shay_shay | thats what i do, with efi stub |
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| 19:36.19 | asdads | shay_shay: Downloading the debian xfce cd from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/8.2.0/amd64/iso-cd/ |
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| 19:36.23 | shay_shay | that way you can utilize the "reboot to hdd" in osx |
| 19:36.23 | asdads | it will work right? |
| 19:37.04 | shay_shay | asdads: i've never used that one, but i believe that one has uefi support yezs |
| 19:37.13 | shay_shay | s/yezs/yes |
| 19:37.49 | shay_shay | it's the live dvds that dont |
| 19:40.14 | asdads | shay_shay: Live cds dont work either right? |
| 19:40.51 | shay_shay | there are no live cd to my knowledge besides maybe the CLI one (aka standard) |
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| 19:41.09 | shay_shay | because cd implies it fits on a cd |
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| 19:42.44 | asdads | shay_shay: Oh yeah? |
| 19:42.47 | asdads | ! |
| 19:42.50 | asdads | youre right |
| 19:43.02 | asdads | HOWEVER THIS SAYS ON THE FTP SITE |
| 19:43.04 | asdads | debian-cd/current-live/amd64 |
| 19:43.15 | asdads | But theyre not cds, lol |
| 19:43.30 | shay_shay | they probably started using that directory back when they were cds |
| 19:44.29 | asdads | shay_shay: Yes, they should change it. Because its misleading |
| 19:45.03 | asdads | Also, someone should make a guide saying that live dvds will NOT work |
| 19:45.05 | shay_shay | whats even more misleading" most people just write them to usb thumb drives now, and thats what we recommend |
| 19:45.12 | g00se | Total cluster*** dist-upgrading from wheezy->jessie. Worst one i've ever done. It's managed to break networking for one user - wtf? |
| 19:46.07 | shay_shay | because optical drives with moving parts are less reliable and slower than a bottom of the barrel usb thumb drive |
| 19:46.33 | asdads | shay_shay: yes |
| 19:46.35 | northstar | dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie went flawlessly for me. |
| 19:46.49 | asdads | Can someone make a guide saying what just helped me? |
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| 19:47.04 | g00se | Good thing i did it on a non-critical box |
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| 19:48.29 | g00se | I mean is it normal for wireless interfaces in jessie to be called ethN? |
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| 19:48.58 | markybob | asdads, i already linked you to the wiki that told you live cds don't work and to use normal ones. a while back. it's documented. |
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| 19:52.58 | asdads | markybob: Ok. Thanks |
| 19:53.08 | asdads | When will debian 9 be released? |
| 19:53.43 | markybob | asdads, 1.5-2yrs? who knows |
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| 19:55.09 | asdads | markybob: Great |
| 19:55.57 | shay_shay | asdads: just be glad if your Mac doesn't have this problem (mine does): http://wiki.osdev.org/Broken_UEFI_implementations#El_Torito_boot |
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| 19:58.21 | shay_shay | which prevents me from booting anything that's not a Debian live cd, because debian live cd only have a single bootloader |
| 19:58.54 | shay_shay | I either have to rebuild the install image to only have UEFI, or do a deboostrap install, or install legacy |
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| 20:17.28 | g00se | Am i right in thinking that i should not have systemd-logind if i'm meant to be using jessie with sysvinit? |
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| 20:19.47 | shay_shay | g00se: are you putting off the switch because its a server and you have a lot of custom scripts which will need to be rewritten ? |
| 20:20.47 | shay_shay | you should have a sandbox, a mirror of your server, which you make all the changes on and test them on |
| 20:20.54 | g00se | I just don't want systemd |
| 20:21.12 | shay_shay | oh, so no reason then ;) |
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| 20:22.47 | g00se | In the notes, this seemed to be the key thing to keep out systemd: http://sprunge.us/YHWe |
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| 20:23.53 | g00se | It looks like it did NOT keep it out |
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| 20:25.54 | g00se | And this is just a simple xfce domestic box |
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| 20:42.49 | Thonza | I have asrock 960gc-gs fx radeon 3000 4k screen. Do it have drivers? |
| 20:44.36 | shay_shay | radeon 3000 is from 2013? |
| 20:45.56 | Thonza | Yeah. It is new lof price device |
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| 20:47.48 | shay_shay | i cant find it on the web, link? |
| 20:47.58 | Thonza | Support hd and oblivion runs with low gaph settinga |
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| 20:50.45 | markybob | Thonza, find out exactly what you have then go here http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/CodeNames/ then you go here and match up the code name http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/FeatureMatrix/ |
| 20:51.34 | shay_shay | markybob: radeon |
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| 20:52.02 | markybob | wow. don't know i misread that so badly |
| 20:52.07 | markybob | Thonza, ignore me |
| 20:52.23 | Thonza | 4 ever |
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| 20:52.56 | markybob | too distracted by doctor who i guess :P |
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| 20:54.47 | MrDoctor | Did somebody just remember me? |
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| 20:55.08 | Thonza | No |
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| 20:55.14 | MrDoctor | :/ |
| 20:55.51 | Thonza | If doctor need to by remempered then all is lost |
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| 20:57.05 | Thonza | We newer forget who he/she is |
| 20:57.19 | Thonza | Oho |
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| 20:58.30 | Thonza | :) |
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| 21:01.18 | Thonza | A hand crafted IRC client? |
| 21:01.56 | Thonza | Wow |
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| 21:05.11 | Thonza | TDog: go hunt non human animals and then lets feast |
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| 21:06.10 | Thonza | :( |
| 21:06.16 | rysiek|pl | hi all |
| 21:06.25 | Thonza | Hi |
| 21:06.28 | rysiek|pl | I am having a strange issue with dpkg-reconfigure on jessie |
| 21:06.45 | rysiek|pl | or rather, on jessie in a docker container, as this might be important |
| 21:07.03 | rysiek|pl | it just hangs there, and strace shows it's looping wildly on this: http://wklej.org/id/1799982/ |
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| 21:08.56 | Thonza | TDog: is this non human animal? |
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| 21:09.47 | Thonza | f10: whaithing for jour orders |
| 21:10.24 | rysiek|pl | and I'm wondering what can be the cause of the tight loop |
| 21:10.33 | rysiek|pl | I don't see any errors in strace |
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| 21:13.00 | Thonza | oh the lodr is here |
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| 21:13.24 | Thonza | I mean lord |
| 21:14.16 | Thonza | Where our lord of nomders is going |
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| 21:15.52 | nyef | Still no luck with the Apple keyboard, so I dug up a different bluetooth keyboard, and it doesn't want to pair, either. Help? |
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| 21:18.48 | Thonza | nyef: keep trying just believe |
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| 21:18.58 | Thonza | :) |
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| 21:20.36 | shay_shay | nyef: what Bluetooth device? |
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| 21:21.01 | Thonza | Come on only god will know |
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| 21:21.35 | nyef | shay_shay: I had been trying an Apple Wireless Keyboard, but now I'm trying with the keyboard from a Kensington KeyFolio Pro 2 |
| 21:22.07 | shay_shay | what is the Bluetooth device internal to your mac called? |
| 21:22.22 | shay_shay | lspci -v |
| 21:22.32 | dolapevich | I have a question about udev and multipath. I can map multipath devices to a name, for instance |
| 21:22.33 | dolapevich | asm_2 (360000970000195702757533033413945) dm-11 EMC,SYMMETRIX |
| 21:22.50 | dolapevich | that means the udev will create /dev/mapper/asm_2 |
| 21:22.54 | nyef | Oh, and the mouse works fine, it's just keyboards that are a problem so far. |
| 21:23.12 | dolapevich | can I create a rule saying asm* be created as oracle:dba ? |
| 21:23.40 | dolapevich | I mean, instead of using the WWID, use the file name as a pattern for the udev rule |
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| 21:24.32 | nyef | lsusb says it's 05ac:8218 Apple, Inc. Bluetooth Host Controller |
| 21:25.40 | nyef | The daemon log is saying something about an "Unknown method: DisplayPinCode is not a valid method of interface org.bluez.Agent1" |
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| 21:31.13 | nyef | Looks like part of this is because I'm using blueman? |
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| 21:32.04 | dasabhi | hey guys if i wanted to compile a kernel using my own config file where do i dump the config file? |
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| 21:32.22 | dasabhi | within in the directory that contains the source ofc |
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| 21:33.16 | firztspawn | hi, I need some help please with ALC892 audio on new install of stable (jessie?) |
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| 21:34.24 | firztspawn | basically, I have no audio |
| 21:34.36 | firztspawn | and am at wits end on how to fix this |
| 21:35.32 | shay_shay | nyef: no idea, I was hoping it was a missing driver or a driver that could be updated to resolve the issue... but I think the support for apple bluetooth is built into the kernel. |
| 21:35.44 | shay_shay | but I was just taking stabs in the dark |
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| 21:36.26 | nyef | It's a mid-2010 Mini. |
| 21:36.48 | nyef | And I just (finally!) got a keyboard to work. |
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| 21:37.35 | nyef | Had to use bluetoothctl, turn the agent on, set the agent as default, pair from there, trust from there, and then also issue a connect command. |
| 21:37.43 | nyef | Not via the blueman GUI interface. |
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| 21:38.22 | Chocolate_Chip | apt-get -m doesn't work |
| 21:38.25 | Chocolate_Chip | Why |
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| 21:39.10 | nyef | So I guess my next step is to pair the Apple keyboard the same way, restart into OSX, re-pair the keyboard, copy out the link key, reboot back to Linux, hack the stored configuration for the new link key, reboot AGAIN to clear the bluetooth state... |
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| 21:39.32 | shay_shay | ,checkbackport blueman |
| 21:39.33 | judd | Backporting package blueman in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 21:40.32 | nyef | And then, if I'm lucky, I won't have to sort out the keymap. |
| 21:41.08 | nyef | I'm definitely tired of using the USB keyboard I've been using, though. (-: |
| 21:41.15 | Chocolate_Chip | Anyone know why -m isn't working? |
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| 21:41.44 | Thonza | Because u taste so good |
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| 21:42.25 | A|an | does <- is |
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| 21:43.36 | nyef | Okay, definitely need to fix at least one aspect of the keymap. But it's finally working-ish. Thank you, all! (-: |
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| 21:48.21 | moozer | apt-get autoremove --dry-run |
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| 23:35.47 | black_puppydog | hi all, anyone having trouble on testing with non-terminating dependency resolution? I read sth on GCC upgrade issues in the forums but the guy at least got a dependency resolution. mine will just run forever and consume more and more cpu and ram... |
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