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| 00:04.59 | judd | Package: grive on amd64 -- sid: 0.2.0-1.1+b2; jessie: 0.2.0-1.1+b2 |
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| 00:14.16 | Michelle---- | Hey I'm running Debian Wheezy. Is it possible to support TLS 1.2 and 1.1? "Plivo currently does not support TLS 1.2. We are working to rectify this, however we do not have an ETA at this time. |
| 00:14.16 | Michelle---- | To resolve the issue in the short term, please consider adding TLS 1.1 support to your server." |
| 00:14.28 | Michelle---- | I have no idea how to also add TLS 1.1 support to my debian server |
| 00:15.00 | Michelle---- | Is this a configuration setting or do I need to use an older package? |
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| 00:19.10 | BullHorn | what the replacement for "cd.." in debian? |
| 00:19.13 | BullHorn | whats* |
| 00:19.28 | xormor | BullHorn, cd .. |
| 00:19.30 | bazhang | bash? |
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| 00:19.33 | BullHorn | thanks |
| 00:19.42 | bazhang | it remains the same |
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| 00:20.01 | BullHorn | cd.. is not cd .. |
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| 00:27.15 | Wednesday_kapsi | i'm stoned as fuck and i did dist-upgrade 7.8 -> 8.1 |
| 00:27.31 | doebi | Wednesday_kapsi: \o/ |
| 00:27.44 | Wednesday_kapsi | just asking for prayers |
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| 00:30.04 | Wednesday_kapsi | sold my system to the lizard people |
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| 00:49.11 | cxd13 | when i used kde with my intel graphics computer, everything was smooth, like the hot corners, workspace switching, etc. now with an AMD graphics card all animations are choppy. but otherwise no problems. anyone know why that might be? using fglrx |
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| 00:55.33 | somiaj | cxd13: what AMD card do you have? |
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| 00:56.52 | cxd13 | somiaj: i was hoping nobody would ask lol. i'm not with the laptop now so i don't know. it's 3 yrs old though |
| 00:57.19 | somiaj | cxd13: just making sure it is a new enough card that fglrx actually supports it. |
| 00:57.34 | cxd13 | would 3 years old be new enough? |
| 00:57.58 | kmh | can some one help me fixing my bridge setup? |
| 00:58.04 | somiaj | cxd13: you should come back and ask when you are at the laptop because debuging would help us. things you can check 1) /var/log/Xorg.0.log and make sure the drivers are loadign correctly. also check 'glxinfo' and 'xvinfo' for more info |
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| 00:58.14 | cxd13 | i'd rather use open source drivers anyway but when i did that, i was unable to adjust screen brightness |
| 00:58.24 | somiaj | cxd13: hard to say. Since 3 years old could still have older ati gpu in it. |
| 00:58.43 | cxd13 | somiaj: alright thanks |
| 00:58.48 | somiaj | cxd13: I would look into that, I bet you could figure out how to adjust screen brightness with radeon driver. It works fairly well |
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| 00:59.03 | kmh | the bridge is up and running ... but i get no ping to the bridge from outside |
| 00:59.12 | somiaj | cxd13: one thing is the radeon driver will require non-free firmware (in the linux-firmware-nonfree package) to get full 3D support |
| 00:59.34 | hays_ | wow. the color prompt logic/lecture in .bashrc is quite something |
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| 01:00.00 | somiaj | kmh: could it be some network issue? Router issue not letting the ping though? |
| 01:00.01 | cxd13 | somiaj: i installed firmware-linux-nonfree, but couldn't adjust screen brightness |
| 01:00.11 | cxd13 | so i installed fglrx instead and it worked |
| 01:00.34 | kmh | somiaj, when i configure just the interface with ip and ... i got the ping |
| 01:01.00 | somiaj | cxd13: how are you trying to adjust the brightness? |
| 01:01.02 | kmh | but when i try to setup the bridge... the trouble starts |
| 01:01.25 | kmh | i think it is a fault in my setup |
| 01:01.30 | cxd13 | somiaj: both using keyboard buttons, and xbacklight (which will complain no display with backlight property) |
| 01:02.31 | somiaj | cxd13: could be the radeon driver isn't compadable with the backlight. As an alternative you can use xrandr to adjust brightness and this is independnt of backlight (there are actually two common things people mean when they say adjust brightness) |
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| 01:02.37 | cxd13 | when i would boot up i'd get messages about failure to load backlight brightness on acpi_video0/1 |
| 01:02.48 | kmh | ip addr show |
| 01:03.08 | cxd13 | somiaj: ok maybe i'll try it with xrandr. thanks |
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| 01:03.16 | somiaj | cxd13: yea sounds like something you could debug. Anyways I think you could go either way and have no suggestion, use the driver you want. But you should come back when you have your laptop and maybe we can figure out what the issue is |
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| 01:03.37 | cxd13 | thanks :) |
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| 01:05.17 | Wednesday_kapsi | voi vittu minkä paskaterminaalin sainbrowser |
| 01:05.21 | Wednesday_kapsi | theres a process of tor running as user debian+- in my system although I haven't started tor |
| 01:05.38 | Wednesday_kapsi | what might this be? |
| 01:05.48 | Wednesday_kapsi | and sorry for the misguided first line |
| 01:06.14 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: many things that are servers (like tor) will install startup scripts to run at boot and then run when you install them. |
| 01:06.32 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: if using systemd you can use systemctl disable to disable the serverice so it doesn't run at boot and only runs when you want it to. |
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| 01:09.06 | Wednesday_kapsi | somiaj: did systemctl --kill-who=tor |
| 01:09.51 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: that wont' start it from starting next time you boot. I don't know the service name, but if it is just 'tor.service' run 'systemctl disable tor.service' and this will keep systemd from running it next boot. |
| 01:10.38 | Wednesday_kapsi | somiaj: ty! |
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| 01:10.47 | Wednesday_kapsi | need to restart i guess |
| 01:11.13 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: no need, systemctl stop tor.service will stop it, and systemctl disable tor.service will keep it from starting automatically |
| 01:11.22 | somiaj | you can restart if you want to test it out, but there is no major need to |
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| 01:15.12 | Wednesday_kapsi | somiaj: ok ty, did it anyways, what is this new default terminal and how does it compare to say xterm? |
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| 01:16.09 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: I don't know as to me anything xorg is not default but is choice. What desktop did you chose to install? |
| 01:16.32 | somiaj | I personally still use xterm, but I also dont' run a DE but a simple wm that has been around since the early 90s |
| 01:16.47 | Wednesday_kapsi | somiaj: did this wirh dist-upgrade from gnome3 |
| 01:16.55 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: but each desktop seems to have their own terminal. |
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| 01:17.00 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: it is probabaly just gnome-terminal |
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| 01:17.06 | Wednesday_kapsi | k |
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| 01:17.36 | somiaj | My guess is it is just a newer version of the gnome-terminal you were using as that has been gnome's default terminal for a while now. You could isntall xterm if you prefer it |
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| 01:18.05 | Wednesday_kapsi | it was provided from the standard repos |
| 01:18.40 | Wednesday_kapsi | gonna install nvidia drivers now |
| 01:18.57 | Wednesday_kapsi | lets see how it handles my GT540 M |
| 01:19.59 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: you know about the nvidia-kernel-dkms packages. It shoudl work just fine. |
| 01:20.40 | Wednesday_kapsi | somiaj: only using standard stuff from now on |
| 01:20.55 | Wednesday_kapsi | nouveau was full pissy |
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| 01:23.19 | somiaj | !tell Wednesday_kapsi about nvidia dkms |
| 01:24.03 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: debian provides packages to automatically build/install the non-free driver if that is what you prefer (It is what I use). Nouveau is getting better espically for legacy cards, but I prefer the non-free driver myself |
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| 01:27.10 | asarch | Is there any way to do FTP over IRC? |
| 01:27.40 | somiaj | asarch: dcc send I think does that (not really ftp over irc but provides a way to transfer files). NOte I don't trust or use it so unsure any details to get it to work |
| 01:28.17 | somiaj | asarch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Client-to-Client (overview of DCC). I think it is more a client than a server issue, so both clients need to suport it. |
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| 01:51.12 | Wednesday_kapsi | somiaj: dunno, installed nvidia drivers from standard repos, now whole graphical interface doesn't work |
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| 01:51.32 | Wednesday_kapsi | got old confs still down |
| 01:51.53 | Wednesday_kapsi | ran apt-get purge *nvidia* |
| 01:52.51 | Wednesday_kapsi | but neither 3.16.0.0, 3.16.0.4 or 3.2.0.4 kernels will start it |
| 01:53.30 | Wednesday_kapsi | prolly got some shit in xorg.conf.d |
| 01:53.59 | Wednesday_kapsi | and networking doesn't work although lspci has drives listed |
| 01:54.11 | Wednesday_kapsi | for pretty much everything |
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| 01:55.41 | BigTuna- | Hi. Quick question. Trying to repair grub on a bootable usb stick. How do I know what my drive identifier and number are? similar to (hd0,1)? |
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| 01:59.14 | squinty | "Disks" if you have it installed |
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| 02:01.17 | i4saken | anyone knows about BURG bootloader? I'm having troubling installing it on kali linux 2.0, i followed instruction on <https://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/ManualInstall>, but when i run "$HOME/burg/configure --with-platform=emu --prefix=$HOME/burg_install" it gives me no such file or directory |
| 02:01.18 | i4saken | * ##linux :Cannot send |
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| 02:02.13 | i4saken | anyone knows about BURG bootloader? I'm having troubling installing it on kali linux 2.0, i followed instruction on <https://code.google.com/p/burg/wiki/ManualInstall>, but when i run "$HOME/burg/configure --with-platform=emu --prefix=$HOME/burg_install" it gives me no such file or directory |
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| 02:03.05 | squinty | !kali |
| 02:03.06 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 02:03.27 | i4saken | thanks |
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| 02:04.56 | dezzzzzzzzzzz | i have a problem |
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| 02:05.02 | dezzzzzzzzzzz | initramfs got corrupted, so i booted on livecd and used testdisk and now the partition is 2mb instead of 750gb |
| 02:06.58 | somiaj | !tell Wednesday_kapsi about nvidia dkms |
| 02:07.17 | nyef | ... How did you go from "initramfs is corrupt" to "let's use testdisk!" ? |
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| 02:07.42 | dezzzzzzzzzzz | stuff online |
| 02:08.16 | dezzzzzzzzzzz | except they only said to do a search with testdisk, i actually changed the partitions. Before the partition wasnt even there though. |
| 02:08.22 | dezzzzzzzzzzz | now its recognized. |
| 02:08.52 | somiaj | Wednesday_kapsi: framebuffers will conflict with the nvidia drivers, you should disable the framebuffers. The nvidia drivers do have the ability to use higher resolutions on consoles via kms and you can change that setting with a dpkg-reconfigure (can't think of package name right now) |
| 02:09.54 | nyef | I... I've got nothing. |
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| 02:10.15 | dezzzzzzzzzzz | lol k |
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| 02:28.08 | AvatarA | I was looking at resizing partitions&filesystems a few days ago and I saw that you can delete partitions, recreate them with a new size and 'resize2fs' |
| 02:29.17 | AvatarA | I still don't quite fully understand how that works but I see that resize2fs man page says this: When recreating the partition, make sure you create it with the same starting disk cylinder as before! Otherwise, the resize operation will certainly not work, and you may lose your entire filesystem. |
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| 02:31.43 | AvatarA | so maybe you can recreate that /dev/sda1, starting from 2048, with the size you know it had, maybe a few gigs more, just to be sure, and try resize2fs on it dezzzzzzzzzzz |
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| 02:33.15 | nyef | Alternately, if you find the superblock, or one of its backups, you can try and figure out where the end was, and re-create the partition in its original location and size. |
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| 02:34.56 | rwp | AvatarA, And if you can't I am hoping you have a solid backup of everything from before. |
| 02:35.39 | AvatarA | my partitions are fine it's dezzzzzzzzzzz that has problems :D |
| 02:35.47 | rwp | AvatarA, But everything you said about deleting and creating with the same start sector is exactly right. |
| 02:36.13 | rwp | Ah... Sorry. I came late to the party. |
| 02:36.22 | rwp | dezzzzzzzzzzz, ^^^ What was said above. |
| 02:36.26 | AvatarA | ya I was checking that out so I can resize from the CLI, may need it in the future |
| 02:36.35 | AvatarA | up until now I used gparted |
| 02:37.03 | rwp | I personally always use LVM and then can do an lvresize on it without needing to repartition. |
| 02:37.15 | rwp | lvextend -L+50G ... |
| 02:37.46 | AvatarA | how does that physically spread out data on the disk? |
| 02:38.09 | AvatarA | I mean with the partition I know that the first partition will be at the outside of the platters |
| 02:38.16 | AvatarA | and it will be the fastest one |
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| 02:40.06 | rwp | The lvdisplay -m will display the sectors allocated to each lv. |
| 02:40.20 | rwp | I admit to not knowing, and not caring, about where is allocated first. |
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| 02:40.53 | rwp | I personally think that the speed difference for inner versus outer is overrated in the presence of ram buffer cache. |
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| 02:41.17 | rwp | Given an appropriate amount of ram everything wlil run out of buffer cache. |
| 02:41.38 | rwp | Of course if you are recording video and storing or other specific needs then that will blow through any cache. |
| 02:41.59 | nyef | One way or the other, the system will run out of buffer cache, huh? |
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| 02:42.15 | AvatarA | rwp, it is not overrated |
| 02:42.21 | AvatarA | I recently put something at the end |
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| 02:42.27 | AvatarA | and I cannot believe how much slower it is |
| 02:42.35 | AvatarA | something like 1/2 of the speed |
| 02:42.41 | AvatarA | maybe a little but more but just a little |
| 02:42.49 | AvatarA | little bit* |
| 02:43.29 | AvatarA | anyway with SSD and everything this will not matter soon |
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| 02:46.06 | rwp | It would certainly be interesting to see a newish benchmark of hard drive geometries and speed of inner versus outter |
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| 02:46.33 | rwp | However note that drive firmware keeps spares and will remap sectors with spares transparently if needed. |
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| 02:47.15 | rwp | For what it is worth lvm appears to allocate from the lowest numbered sector to the larger numbered sector. |
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| 03:01.45 | asterismo | hi ppl |
| 03:01.55 | dvs | zzzzz |
| 03:02.05 | asterismo | i'm trying to write a simple python script to send a mail via sendmail |
| 03:02.35 | asterismo | do i have to set any permission to use sendmail? |
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| 03:03.32 | asterismo | should i point it to /usr/sbin/sendmail? |
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| 03:18.28 | LightBringer | Had been using Ubuntu. Switched and New to Debian. I'm on 8.2 and most apps seem to be not opening. Any way to downgrade to 8 without having to lose the installed packages? |
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| 03:19.01 | LightBringer | Apps as in system apps. Preference by itself are not opening. |
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| 03:19.10 | markybob | !downgrade |
| 03:19.10 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 03:19.25 | markybob | !ask |
| 03:19.25 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 03:20.50 | LightBringer | No, I don't want to downgrade application packages. I want to downgrade the operating system itself. From 8.2 to 8 or at least any partially stable version, so that I can at least open System preferences and stuff. |
| 03:21.29 | dvs | LightBringer: Downgrading the operating system would be downgrading packages. |
| 03:21.36 | markybob | no way to go from 8.2 to 8.0 |
| 03:21.59 | LightBringer | Ok, then for now I can't manage to get the system apps working? |
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| 03:22.49 | markybob | LightBringer, i don't know if you don't ask a question with enough information for us to help you. i tried with showing you !ask |
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| 03:23.58 | LightBringer | I'm trying to be as clear as possible. I'm on 8.2. Most of my system apps, such as System settings and most of those apps under the Preferences and Administration category in the menu list are not opening. |
| 03:24.31 | LightBringer | So, as I'm new to Debian, I thought, may be I'm using any Unstable are very much in developmental stage version of Debian |
| 03:24.57 | LightBringer | or* |
| 03:25.58 | LightBringer | I'd freshly install a Debian 8. But I've so many packages installed on 8.2. So, I'm a bit hesitant to erase this copy. |
| 03:26.40 | LightBringer | Am I being clear enough and letting you to help me or need more information? |
| 03:27.34 | dvs | Sounds like a GUI problem |
| 03:27.49 | LightBringer | dvs: I'm on Cinnamon environment. |
| 03:28.06 | dvs | Never used it. |
| 03:28.23 | markybob | still havent given us an error |
| 03:28.33 | LightBringer | Would be nice if you gave some pointers on what should I do now to getting everything working normal, i'd be so glad. |
| 03:30.17 | markybob | LightBringer, give us an error. something |
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| 03:30.58 | LightBringer | Yeah, that's what. When I open from the menu panel on the bottom left, most apps are not opening. Won't that be considered an error? |
| 03:31.06 | LightBringer | Or at least an issue. |
| 03:31.28 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: can you run things with "alt-f2"? (not sure if this shortcut is used in cinnamon). If you have another desktop environment installed, can you launch programs when you log in with it? Create a new user, can that user log in? |
| 03:32.15 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: I don't have anyother desktop environment. Would installing another desktop environment solve the issue? |
| 03:32.43 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: if you meant ctrl+alt+func key shortcuts, yeah, they work in debian also. |
| 03:32.52 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: i'm suggesting troubleshooting steps that you can try. it could very well be a cinnamon issue, or specific to your account. |
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| 03:33.17 | rwp | asterismo, No special permissions are needed to send email with sendmail. |
| 03:33.31 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: i don't mean ctrl+alt+f1 etc to get to a virtual console. some desktop environments have an "alt-f2" shortcut to run a command. |
| 03:34.12 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: yes, if i open alt+f2 and enter the system settings command, it is opening. |
| 03:34.31 | LightBringer | Like dvs said, it seems nw, like a GUI-only issue. |
| 03:35.02 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: try running a terminal, and then see if you get useful errors or warnings when running applications from the terminal |
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| 03:35.48 | asterismo | thanks rwp |
| 03:36.26 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: Just 8 warnings are popping up, if I run system settings thro' a terminal. I guess that's usual. I'm pasting the warnings pastebin link in seconds. |
| 03:36.31 | dontknow | i am trying to set chroot. i added user and installed sudo and added it to sudo group but when i use sudo it warns me "sudo: effective uid is not 0, is /usr/bin/sudo on a file system with the 'nosuid' option set or an NFS file system without root privileges?" |
| 03:37.08 | rwp | asterismo, If you use https://paste.debian.net/ to show your script we could comment upon it. |
| 03:37.34 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: http://pastebin.com/wNuzt9Mk |
| 03:37.46 | rwp | asterismo, There are zillions of tutorials on the net that describe how to do so. |
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| 03:39.34 | dontknow | anyone can help me? |
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| 03:40.02 | AvatarA | btw just so you know LightBringer Debian Stable/Jessie 8.2 will usually be better than 8.0 because more bugs have been fixed |
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| 03:40.35 | AvatarA | don't think of it as some other OS, it's not like Windows 7 and Windows 8 different |
| 03:40.43 | rwp | dontknow, sudo in the chroot? Or sudo in the host system? |
| 03:40.57 | LightBringer | AvatarA: I'm sorry. I Should have thought about that. |
| 03:41.13 | LightBringer | AvatarA: I can understand. |
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| 03:41.28 | dontknow | rwp, in chroot. |
| 03:41.28 | LightBringer | AvatarA: I'd be glad, If you could help fix the issue. |
| 03:42.17 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: i don't know, those warnings are probably not relevant. if you are using systemd you can look for errors in the journal for your user with a command like "journalctl --user-unit=user-1000.slice --boot=0" (where 1000 is your UID) |
| 03:43.52 | LightBringer | My UID was infact 1000 only. I get the message "No Journal files were found." |
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| 03:44.31 | asterismo | rwp: thanks i didn't wanted to talk offtopic: here it is https://paste.debian.net/312808/ |
| 03:44.35 | asterismo | appreciate any comments |
| 03:46.05 | AvatarA | LightBringer, after you wrote that command in your terminal what happened? |
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| 03:46.24 | LightBringer | As I said, "No Journal files were found." |
| 03:46.37 | AvatarA | not that |
| 03:46.45 | AvatarA | cinnamon-control-center |
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| 03:47.49 | LightBringer | AvatarA: The warnings, as in: http://pastebin.com/wNuzt9Mk |
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| 03:48.30 | AvatarA | and nothing opens nothing happens? |
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| 03:49.05 | LightBringer | AvatarA: the the panel opens. |
| 03:49.21 | LightBringer | AvatarA: As, we've discussed, only on the menu panel, the apps are not opening on clicking. |
| 03:49.39 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: sorry you need to be root to view the journal, or your user needs to be in the adm group |
| 03:49.56 | AvatarA | wait a sec, you say most apps in administration and preferences are not opening |
| 03:50.02 | AvatarA | what about the others they work right? |
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| 03:50.39 | AvatarA | maybe it's those apps that require administration privileges that are not working, I remember cinnamon being a mute about that |
| 03:51.13 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: Yes, you were right. The Journal result now: http://pastebin.com/UYGqZDbe |
| 03:51.14 | AvatarA | I have created a normal user, logged in and many programs requiring root did not work, did not complain, did not show an error dialog, nothing |
| 03:52.21 | LightBringer | AvatarA: oh. Even, display preferences, changing background apps not opening. I don't know if they'd need root permission. |
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| 03:52.41 | AvatarA | maybe those are some silent python errors |
| 03:53.04 | AvatarA | I don't know what the name of display preferences program is in cinnamon |
| 03:53.12 | AvatarA | see what it's called and run that in a terminal |
| 03:53.55 | LightBringer | AvatarA: should I everytime check it on internet or is there any internal way to find out it's name to run it on terminal? |
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| 03:55.09 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: there's probably more in the journal than that. by default journalctl uses a pager. I recommend looking for errors yourself, and if you have trouble understanding some that look relevant put them on http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 03:56.12 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: I'm just going to change the Environment now and see. Sorry to ask. But pls suggest any very good, reliable environments. |
| 03:56.14 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: also try creating a new user, it's likely a problem with your user's configuration. If the problem doesn't exist for other users, mv your config somewhere else (it'll probably be in ~/.config) |
| 03:56.23 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: gnome |
| 03:57.11 | LightBringer | and one more pls. |
| 03:57.21 | AvatarA | kde may suit you |
| 03:57.43 | LightBringer | thanks AvatarA and jmcnaught . I'll try that and see. |
| 03:57.44 | AvatarA | you seem to want that kind of interface if you chose cinnamon |
| 03:58.06 | AvatarA | btw too many random commands you run with sudo :) |
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| 03:58.34 | AvatarA | that's bound to shake up your system at some point(s) |
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| 04:00.08 | LightBringer | AvatarA: No, mostly when modifying config files on root dir or when installing packages. |
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| 04:00.49 | LightBringer | AvatarA: Actually, I've used Unity for arnd 4 yrs and gnome for a while now and hence had been trying out new environments. |
| 04:01.14 | rwp | asterismo, I just tried that script (with my addresses) and it worked okay for me. |
| 04:01.23 | AvatarA | COMMAND=/usr/bin/alien flash-plugin-11.2.202.52 |
| 04:01.26 | AvatarA | then dpkg -i |
| 04:01.32 | AvatarA | then apt-get |
| 04:01.39 | rwp | asterismo, I advise adding -oi to the list of sendmali options for batch mode however. |
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| 04:02.10 | LightBringer | AvatarA: the package was available only as *.rpm format. I converted to *.deb and then did a dpkg -i, actually. |
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| 04:02.20 | rwp | asterismo, But since it works it means I suspect that /usr/sbin/sendmail on your system is not functional. |
| 04:02.23 | LightBringer | alien to convert .rpm to .deb. |
| 04:02.26 | rwp | asterismo, What MTA have you installed? |
| 04:02.33 | AvatarA | adobe flash? but it is available |
| 04:02.39 | AvatarA | in .deb |
| 04:02.47 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: debian has a flashplugin-nonfree in the non-free repo |
| 04:03.44 | LightBringer | AvatarA: In the official page i didn't get .deb. May be i didn't look where I had to. |
| 04:03.52 | rwp | dontknow, The error message you quoted seems descriptive. Check that you haven't mounted that nosuid. Check other suid programs such as 'su' which should work too. |
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| 04:04.05 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: Thank you. After you said, I used the nonfree. Hopefully, this'll work fine. |
| 04:04.07 | AvatarA | it is somewhat harder to find debian specific advice on google |
| 04:05.00 | LightBringer | AvatarA: Exactly. Most of the time, I had to google for Ubuntu and then follow the same, if it's likely to suit Debian also. |
| 04:05.19 | dontknow | rwp, su gives me "su: Authentication failure" |
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| 04:06.15 | jmcnaught | LightBringer: a good first place to check is the debian wiki |
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| 04:06.41 | AvatarA | LightBringer, 'dpkg --get-selections > myinstalledpackages' |
| 04:06.49 | LightBringer | jmcnaught: Thank you. I'll keep that in mind next time I need something. |
| 04:06.50 | AvatarA | and dpkg --set-selections |
| 04:07.00 | fishinghole | how do I configure jessie to default to sysinit? or!!! I have some issues, with some scripts, that are not shutting down properly on shutdown. i'm going to pastebin. |
| 04:07.01 | AvatarA | something you might want to remember cuz you'll need it someday :p |
| 04:07.37 | LightBringer | AvatarA: Oh, my list of packages in case i'm fresh installing? |
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| 04:08.04 | LightBringer | AvatarA: Would that list all the packages installed thro various methods and various commands? |
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| 04:08.41 | AvatarA | no, the extra 'alien' stuff you do won't be kept |
| 04:08.52 | AvatarA | that's why you should stay away from it when you can |
| 04:09.00 | AvatarA | that is the last option |
| 04:09.17 | rwp | dontknow, That confirms that you have a priviledge problem. |
| 04:09.38 | rwp | dontknow, How did you trigger the chroot? You are not using fakeroot or anything like that, right? |
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| 04:09.53 | LightBringer | AvatarA: Thank you, that was really helpful. |
| 04:09.54 | dontknow | rwp, i use firejail lol |
| 04:10.08 | rwp | I have no idea what firejail is but that is almost certainly the problem. |
| 04:10.09 | dontknow | rwp, https://l3net.wordpress.com/2014/10/23/debianubuntu-cross-distro-gaming-with-firejail/ |
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| 04:10.17 | AvatarA | but everything you installed with apt-get will be reinstalled automagically |
| 04:10.18 | rwp | reading... |
| 04:10.54 | dontknow | rwp, it is a sandboxing software |
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| 04:11.43 | rwp | Just to prove the issue, try becoming root outside the chroot and running chroot as root. "$ sudo chroot /srv/chroot/whatever" Just like that. You should be root in the chroot then. |
| 04:11.55 | LightBringer | AvatarA: automatically? How? Or do you mean when i do dpkg -i --set-selections |
| 04:13.17 | dontknow | rwp, i can enter as root using firejail. no problem. the issue is i can't get root when entering as user |
| 04:14.10 | LightBringer | AvatarA: Also, I do have on doubt. My PC is pretty old. So, when I installed Fedora, which is by default Gnome, I had some graphics issue. Like the windows and images would get distorted every second. But I didn't have that issue on Debian Cinnamon. So, I'm assuming I'll get that issue back on Debian Gnome. Don't you think so? |
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| 04:15.28 | rwp | dontknow, That is as far as I can go. I am not hands on. You will need to debug the rest hands on yourself. |
| 04:15.36 | beergear | I've found that it's almost always best to check the debian wiki when installing new packages... |
| 04:15.44 | dontknow | rwp, ok thanks |
| 04:16.53 | AvatarA | don't know LightBringer, they use newer stuff, therefore (maybe) more unstable |
| 04:17.04 | beergear | Usually it goes something like 'Debian changes a bunch of files around to different locations, look here for something you'd never think of putting there' |
| 04:17.10 | AvatarA | kernel4 and other stuff |
| 04:17.24 | beergear | Debian looovves playing with default config changes |
| 04:17.49 | beergear | not that it's always a bad thing of course ;) |
| 04:17.51 | LightBringer | Ok. Thank you AvatarA, jmcnaught, dvs and markybob for all your help. |
| 04:19.08 | rwp | beergear, Debian has a Policy (Debian Policy) that organizes and coordinates. It is one of the best things about Debian. |
| 04:19.20 | AvatarA | also if you have poor graphic performance in gnome, you might look through the debian wikis on nvidia/ati drivers |
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| 04:19.53 | beergear | rwp: It wouldn't be the same without it! |
| 04:19.56 | jmcnaught | dontknow: disabling sudo sounds likes a firejail feature to me, but i had never heard of it before |
| 04:20.08 | beergear | Debian wiki is some of the best docu out there |
| 04:20.29 | shay_shay | ^ |
| 04:20.43 | beergear | I also really like Arch's wiki |
| 04:20.58 | shay_shay | actually gentoo wiki is bad ass too |
| 04:21.07 | beergear | yeah totally I was just thinking that |
| 04:21.27 | AvatarA | and askubuntu.com sucks ass :] |
| 04:22.18 | shay_shay | Debian gentoo and arch --- this is the order I read wikis |
| 04:22.33 | dontknow | jmcnaught, i entered chroot as root without firejail. i am using "adduser user sudo" but it doesn't appear in to apply in chroot because it doesn't list sudo when using groups as normal user |
| 04:23.00 | beergear | hah yeah askubuntu is ok for obscure error codes and other wierd things |
| 04:23.28 | beergear | I'd say Arch > Deb > Gentoo for wiki preference |
| 04:23.43 | beergear | I don't even use arch at all and I end up on their site all the time |
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| 04:26.08 | AvatarA | the arch channel is good too, those guys never shut up :) |
| 04:26.16 | rwp | dontknow, The way groups (and adduser user sudo) works is it adds the user to the /etc/groups file. Then when user logs in all of the auxilary groups are assigned. It sounds like firejail does not assign those auxilary groups. |
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| 04:27.37 | Komanda | hwo do i close a tunnel i started with ssh -L 6667:localhost:6667 user@server |
| 04:28.16 | rwp | Komanda, Enter then ~? Enter to see the options. |
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| 04:28.44 | ryouma | it seems that grub-pc stores some data about your system, such that if you copy your root filesystem someplace, that data persists and the next time grub-pc gets upgraded it uses that stored data to do grub-install. where are these data? |
| 04:28.47 | Delf | Something wrong with http://security.debian.org/? |
| 04:28.55 | Komanda | rwp: it seems to be running in the background |
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| 04:29.08 | AvatarA | Komanda, end the ssh session |
| 04:29.16 | rwp | What is running in the background? The ssh tunnel? That is the way it works. |
| 04:29.23 | Komanda | AvatarA: lol |
| 04:29.25 | Komanda | thanks |
| 04:30.35 | Komanda | hm |
| 04:30.39 | Komanda | i also seem to get |
| 04:30.42 | Komanda | "channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused" |
| 04:30.46 | Komanda | when i do |
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| 04:31.02 | Komanda | nc -z localhost 6667 -l -c "printf 'HTTP/1.1 200 OK\r\n'" |
| 04:31.07 | Komanda | Connection to localhost port 6667 [tcp/*] succeeded! |
| 04:31.36 | Komanda | but on the server it says "channel 3: open failed: connect failed: Connection refused" |
| 04:31.42 | Komanda | made the tunnel with: |
| 04:31.56 | Komanda | ssh -L 6667:127.0.0.1:6667 user@server |
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| 04:33.07 | AvatarA | is port 6667 listening on the server? |
| 04:33.28 | rwp | Komanda, The connection refused message is because on the remote end the connection to 6667 failed due to nothing listening on that port. |
| 04:33.40 | AvatarA | is *something* listening on that port to be accurate cuz my previous message just makes no sense |
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| 04:34.06 | Komanda | so how can i check |
| 04:34.17 | AvatarA | netstat -lt on the server |
| 04:35.09 | AvatarA | but judging from the port... are you actually trying to connect to ANOTHER server by tunneling through your server? |
| 04:35.38 | Komanda | i'm just playing with it |
| 04:35.44 | rwp | Because unless you have an irc daemon running on that remote server itself there isn't anything to connect to there. |
| 04:35.44 | Komanda | i want to tunnel mail traffic evenutally |
| 04:35.58 | AvatarA | checkout -D also |
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| 04:36.39 | Komanda | i assumed i could netcat to serverip: 6667 and then recieve a message on my local computer |
| 04:36.41 | Komanda | somehow |
| 04:36.59 | AvatarA | yes but something has to be listening on that port on the server |
| 04:37.36 | Komanda | so how do i make that happen? |
| 04:37.38 | AvatarA | for -L at least |
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| 04:40.20 | rwp | The ssh -D option seems to be your best way to go. |
| 04:40.29 | AvatarA | if you ssh -D |
| 04:40.41 | AvatarA | then you can setup a proxy in your web browser |
| 04:40.59 | rwp | If you were doing web http things then I would suggest 'tinyproxy'. |
| 04:41.10 | Komanda | would ssh -D be suitable for mail traffic |
| 04:41.15 | Komanda | i'm moving a mail server |
| 04:41.20 | AvatarA | set the proxy as socks 5, localhost |
| 04:41.21 | Komanda | from datacenter to here in my home |
| 04:41.26 | rwp | Tinyproxy listens by default to port 8888. Tunnel port 8888 to the remote server and tell your browser to use localhost:8888 as the proxy. |
| 04:41.27 | AvatarA | and try it out if you just want to test things |
| 04:41.32 | Komanda | i want to run a dryrun |
| 04:41.38 | AvatarA | and of course port you chose after -D |
| 04:41.39 | Komanda | when the mail port isnt forwarded |
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| 04:41.44 | Komanda | but just some random other port |
| 04:41.55 | Komanda | so i can see if things work |
| 04:42.07 | Komanda | then change the port to the mail port |
| 04:42.16 | Komanda | & traffic should pass through my nat |
| 04:42.40 | AvatarA | well short story, -L , when you connect to localhost:port it goes to server:port through ssh tunnel |
| 04:42.53 | Komanda | but i'm loocing for the reverse |
| 04:43.01 | AvatarA | when you -D, it goes from localhost:port to ssh tunnel, to some other server |
| 04:43.02 | Komanda | server:port > local:port |
| 04:43.34 | Komanda | so basically |
| 04:43.40 | Komanda | i should ssh into the server |
| 04:43.46 | Komanda | run ssh -L command there |
| 04:43.48 | AvatarA | let me see the man page.. |
| 04:44.00 | Komanda | i've been running the ssh -L command locally |
| 04:44.03 | AvatarA | there was a -R also |
| 04:44.08 | Komanda | this stuff is confusing :S |
| 04:44.29 | AvatarA | Specifies that the given port on the remote (server) host is to |
| 04:44.29 | AvatarA | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:45.12 | rwp | It would be good to avoid the XY problem by giving an overall idea of your vision of what you are trying to do. |
| 04:46.13 | Komanda | don't seem to get any errors |
| 04:46.47 | AvatarA | so if you say <Komanda> server:port > local:port | then probably -R is for you |
| 04:47.01 | Komanda | yeah using -R now thanks |
| 04:47.07 | Komanda | testing it with netcat to see if it works |
| 04:47.26 | Komanda | how do i display all traffic for a port with netcat |
| 04:47.28 | AvatarA | it works it works, ssh is reliable :) |
| 04:48.13 | AvatarA | nc has a listening switch from what I remember |
| 04:48.39 | AvatarA | man nc and look for listening |
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| 04:50.47 | Komanda | nc -l localhost 6667 |
| 04:50.50 | Komanda | doesnt show anything |
| 04:50.59 | AvatarA | well of course it doesn't |
| 04:51.17 | AvatarA | now open up another terminal and nc localhost 6667 and you will have a chat application :] |
| 04:52.34 | Komanda | well but i want to do |
| 04:52.41 | Komanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:52.55 | Komanda | and then have a chat application through the tunnel i created with ssh -R |
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| 04:54.47 | Komanda | how else can i test if the tunnel is working.. |
| 04:55.52 | dontknow | can i use netinstall to install debian in chroot like installing it on the host? i mean i need to configure it just like installing it real? |
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| 04:57.27 | beergear | dontknow: look into deboostrap |
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| 04:59.42 | beergear | https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 05:07.39 | monikers | is it possible that su - password won't work sometimes? |
| 05:07.46 | monikers | I have used this password last night |
| 05:07.48 | monikers | and now it won't work |
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| 05:25.01 | mancomunado | Text editor encoding for some reason changed its format and corrupted my file, and now even changing for default it doesn't show proper characters in the entire letters. What can I do? |
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| 05:43.16 | DLange | mancomunado: http://ask.xmodulo.com/change-character-encoding-text-file-linux.html |
| 05:43.48 | Komanda | nc -l 127.0.0.1 1667 |
| 05:43.54 | Komanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.00 | Komanda | nc 127.0.0.1 1667 |
| 05:44.06 | Komanda | on the same host |
| 05:44.12 | Komanda | (UNKNOWN) [127.0.0.1] 1667 (?) : Connection refused |
| 05:44.18 | Komanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:44.24 | Komanda | what the fuck |
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| 05:46.34 | Komanda | the listening instance also doesnt show up when i do |
| 05:46.35 | Komanda | netstat -ntpl |
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| 05:48.13 | Komanda | nc -l 127.0.0.1 -p 1667 |
| 05:48.16 | Komanda | that does work |
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| 05:48.35 | Komanda | fucking fuckers that designed this fucking fuckshit |
| 05:49.00 | mancomunado | Dlange, something funny happening on terminal. By correcting a miss command, like "file --mime-enconig" instead of encoding, and clearly seeming the proper result on terminal it executes wrongly. |
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| 05:49.59 | DLange | mancomunado: may be it has mixed encoding, like some is what you want and some characters are not |
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| 05:52.15 | mancomunado | but by typing on terminal not at my already corrupted text file. either way what can I possibly do right now? here it is the image of terminal corrupting my commands |
| 05:52.33 | mancomunado | https://imgur.com/9C2DVt0 |
| 05:54.20 | jelly | mancomunado: press Ctrl-L next time that happens to refresh and clear the terminal |
| 05:54.45 | jelly | mancomunado: also, the "reset" command _may_ fix the terminal's internal state |
| 05:55.19 | jelly | (such as cursor being in the wrong place) |
| 05:55.23 | mancomunado | jelly, |
| 05:55.44 | mancomunado | I don't believe its terminal but something weird happening on debian. |
| 05:56.07 | jelly | that's highly unlikely |
| 05:57.10 | jelly | mancomunado: also, if your filename has spaces, you need to quote the whole filename. Use single quotes ' ' |
| 05:57.56 | markybob | that image doesn't make any sense, though |
| 05:58.12 | DLange | many, many typos in "--mime-encoding" |
| 05:59.03 | jelly | but they don't look typoed in the command line, just the output |
| 05:59.11 | jelly | (except the first one) |
| 05:59.20 | markybob | yeah. that's weird |
| 05:59.37 | DLange | reset is a very good suggestino |
| 05:59.41 | DLange | :) |
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| 06:02.49 | cluelessperson | question, is there a way to launch programs only as I need them from linux? |
| 06:02.54 | cluelessperson | debian* sorry |
| 06:03.27 | cluelessperson | like, windowed/guis. Say I need to use a "word document" in college. What's that going to look like on debian? |
| 06:03.28 | nevyn | how else would you start things? |
| 06:03.31 | jelly | cluelessperson: as opposed to running them when you don't need them? |
| 06:03.43 | mancomunado | markybob, DLange , jelly: that's exacly the problem. some weird bug. "iconv: conversion from `unknow-8bit' is not supported |
| 06:03.43 | mancomunado | " |
| 06:03.46 | cluelessperson | jelly, ? |
| 06:03.46 | jelly | don't run them, ehhh? I don't get it. |
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| 06:03.59 | cluelessperson | in windows, a window comes up in which you can edit a word document |
| 06:04.01 | nevyn | cluelessperson: click the file and an appropriate application starts |
| 06:04.04 | nevyn | in most desktop systems |
| 06:04.10 | cluelessperson | will a shell console be able to yield that? |
| 06:04.22 | mancomunado | the encoding is some nasty thing |
| 06:04.24 | cluelessperson | nevyn, ... Gui less debian, from shell. |
| 06:04.28 | markybob | mancomunado, maybe #debian-br will have a clue? because i haven't run into this before |
| 06:04.33 | nevyn | oowriter file.docx |
| 06:04.41 | somiaj | cluelessperson: there are some tools to change the format of .doc files, and there are various applications in xorg that can read doc files. |
| 06:04.50 | jelly | heh, oowriter |
| 06:04.57 | nevyn | cluelessperson: so the whole file assoication and launching apps from random files thing is a desktop environment thing |
| 06:05.15 | cluelessperson | somiaj, kill me. I'm not going to screw around with that while in college class trying to follor instructions. |
| 06:05.25 | mancomunado | markybob, it was ok until very recently |
| 06:05.43 | nevyn | oh fine libreofficewriter meh |
| 06:05.44 | cluelessperson | nevyn, I didn't say click some random file, I just need to be able to open a program to actually work like any normal business environment |
| 06:06.01 | cluelessperson | How am I supposed to write an essay in debian? |
| 06:06.07 | jelly | cluelessperson: xdg-open foo.docx |
| 06:06.10 | nevyn | cluelessperson: how do you want to. |
| 06:06.32 | jelly | cluelessperson: what's the problem? |
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| 06:06.56 | markybob | cluelessperson, google docs? :P |
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| 06:07.12 | cluelessperson | markybob, ... from a guiless shell how? |
| 06:07.29 | markybob | oh. nano ? |
| 06:07.48 | markybob | there's a million options. |
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| 06:09.06 | somiaj | use wv (wvWare) to convert to html or plain text and use lynx or some tool to read it. If you are going to limit yourself to not using xorg and need to read docs that is about the best I can think of. As for writing documents, there are plenty of things to write documents from a console. You can even write latex that way, but not sure of any console dvi or pdf viewers, but the writing doesn't need xorg. |
| 06:09.25 | jelly | cluelessperson: which debian release are you using, and why are you using a "guiless shell" |
| 06:09.49 | cluelessperson | jelly, what's the point of a gui? |
| 06:09.59 | markybob | heh |
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| 06:10.23 | jelly | cluelessperson: enabling use of graphically enhanced apps |
| 06:10.29 | cluelessperson | jelly, to be specific. I only need Guis for things that use a window, like a word document, or maybe steam, or a browser. |
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| 06:10.41 | markybob | cluelessperson, then you should know what to use to write an essay if gui has no point |
| 06:10.43 | cluelessperson | jelly, Shouldn't I be able to start grpahical apps from a shell? |
| 06:10.46 | jelly | cluelessperson: which debian release are you using, and are you running X? |
| 06:11.06 | markybob | what is happening |
| 06:11.19 | cluelessperson | jelly, I'm on windows now, contemplating using debian, but I need to be sure it won't slow me down when I need it to work in class. |
| 06:11.33 | jelly | cluelessperson: come back when you're running debian. |
| 06:11.37 | jelly | kthxbai |
| 06:11.59 | cluelessperson | jelly, don't be stupid. I'm not going to just switch to debian and HOPE it works |
| 06:12.05 | cluelessperson | that's absolutely stupid. |
| 06:12.14 | markybob | cluelessperson, he's an admin. don't talk to him like that. |
| 06:12.21 | veek | is alsa sound explained anywhere.. especially asoundrc |
| 06:12.37 | somiaj | veek: there are lots of documentation on the alsa project webpage for asoundrc |
| 06:12.41 | veek | a decent tutorial, i've tried: http://www.volkerschatz.com/noise/alsa.html |
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| 06:12.55 | markybob | and there we go :P |
| 06:12.56 | somiaj | veek: What is it you are trying to do? |
| 06:13.24 | veek | somiaj, for now just trying to understand what a control is vs channel vs mixer vs plugin |
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| 06:14.17 | somiaj | veek: any goal in mind or just trying to learn alsa? http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Documentation |
| 06:14.38 | jelly | cluelessperson: consider asking more cohesive and concrete questions, in about two hours from now |
| 06:14.49 | veek | somiaj, eg this bit is confusing: "If an application chooses a PCM parameter (sampling rate, channel count or sample format) which the hardware does not support, the hw plugin returns an error. " what's a sample format |
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| 06:15.59 | veek | sample rate i know.. Nyquist frequency etc |
| 06:16.11 | veek | channel count is the source stream |
| 06:16.53 | veek | alsa is supposed to mirror the hw quite closely so.. |
| 06:17.01 | somiaj | veek: Maybe see if there is an alsa channel if you want more details about the specifics behind sound formats. I'd start at the alsa documentation but my experience is I haven't had to do much to get alsa to work like I want it to. |
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| 06:20.30 | nevyn | veek. |
| 06:20.38 | nevyn | so alsa. |
| 06:20.50 | nevyn | there's #alsa |
| 06:20.55 | nevyn | and #pulseaudio |
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| 06:21.27 | nevyn | but what it's saying is. if you have a soundcard that the hardware only reports it does 48kHz stereo |
| 06:21.42 | nevyn | and and app requests 8kHz Mono then it'll get an error |
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| 06:22.32 | nevyn | there are plugins within the alsa libraries (like plug) that will do conversion so that the request of the app can be satisfied and the audio is converted for the hardware. |
| 06:23.07 | veek | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:24.19 | nevyn | this is my prefered tutorial on asoundrc configuraiton |
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| 06:24.24 | nevyn | http://www.volkerschatz.com/noise/alsa.html |
| 06:24.59 | nevyn | but these days you almost certainly want to be using pulseaudio imv |
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| 06:31.25 | nevyn | veek: ^^ |
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| 06:35.10 | black_puppydog | hi, someone listening? |
| 06:35.27 | jelly | nope |
| 06:35.42 | black_puppydog | I'll take that as a "jup" ;) |
| 06:36.01 | black_puppydog | just last time I asked there was eerie silence |
| 06:36.32 | black_puppydog | I got a problem with testing for ~3 weeks, i.e. I cannot pull updates |
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| 06:37.11 | black_puppydog | meaning I can update the package index, but when I tell aptitude to install updates, it will run the dependency resolution forever, consume all my ram and cpu over time and then segfault |
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| 06:37.31 | markybob | i wish aptitude would die |
| 06:37.42 | black_puppydog | normally I would try and see which packages are causing the problem but since dependency resolution never finishes I am kinda flying in the dark... |
| 06:37.44 | AvatarA | why markybob ? |
| 06:37.57 | black_puppydog | markybob: it does for me ;) |
| 06:38.08 | markybob | black_puppydog, exactly :) |
| 06:38.54 | AvatarA | what apt-get's resolver? |
| 06:39.14 | AvatarA | what about* |
| 06:40.42 | black_puppydog | ZOMG AvatarA, I had never even thought about that. these days I kinda use apt-get/aptitude depending on what I feel like typing, but for updates I always use aptitude... okay, that was an easy one then. thanks! :) |
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| 06:41.01 | black_puppydog | oh sweet sweet updates :) |
| 06:41.07 | jelly | !debian-next |
| 06:41.07 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. |
| 06:41.44 | black_puppydog | errrr... well, okay dpkg, will remember. luckly issue is alreay resolved :) |
| 06:42.10 | markybob | black_puppydog, dpkg is a bot fyi |
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| 06:42.46 | AvatarA | I wonder how many users are on that debian next channel |
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| 06:43.20 | markybob | AvatarA, 277 |
| 06:43.45 | AvatarA | thanks markybob |
| 06:44.22 | AvatarA | anyone have any idea why my journalctl isn't showing messages since uptime? |
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| 06:44.52 | AvatarA | uptime -s is 2015-08-21 |
| 06:45.02 | AvatarA | and journalctl: Logs begin at Sat 2015-08-29 14:59:00 EEST |
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| 06:45.29 | black_puppydog | markybob: I am used to talking to bots :P |
| 06:45.42 | black_puppydog | alright folks, thanks a bunch, gotta head off to work |
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| 06:59.04 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 06:59.04 | dpkg | <overclocker> hi, i'n using x3270 to connect to a sco server, everithing works fine except the function keys, ideas? <asg> overclocker: do you have a license for the function keys? <overclocker> i just want to use the F-keys of my keyboard when i connect to the sco server, do i need a licence to do that? |
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| 07:45.39 | lucapost | hi all, how can I change macaddr of vlan in /etc/network/interfaces? Can anybody help me about? |
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| 07:53.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | what I still don't get is why there's not a base-install without X simply as a tar archive instead of all that debootstrap stuff |
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| 07:55.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | haha |
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| 07:56.27 | nkuttler | lucapost: that would be hwaddress, if the interface supports it |
| 07:56.41 | CutMeOwnThroat | haven't done it in ... dunno, 5 years, so I forgot about it |
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| 08:14.24 | duser8 | hello. when trying to build a remastered iso with this command: |
| 08:14.27 | duser8 | genisoimage -o debian-8.2-kde_remastered.iso -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -c isolinux/boot.cat -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -r -V 'Remastered Edition' -cache-inodes -l -quiet -hfs debian-livecd |
| 08:14.37 | duser8 | I get this error: can't HFS create file debian-livecd/pool/main/c/cryptsetup/cryptsetup_2%3a1.6.6-5_amd64.deb |
| 08:14.40 | duser8 | Can you help ? |
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| 08:24.56 | dubin | hi |
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| 08:25.01 | dubin | do you know why with this command: find $DIR_NAME -name \*.so* -exec cp {} $DEST_DIR \; -print -and -not -path $NO_PATH_01 |
| 08:25.08 | dubin | it is entering in the NO_PATH_01 dir? |
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| 08:35.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | dubin, the manpage of find actually has an example for just this... |
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| 08:35.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | at least I guess that's what you want |
| 08:35.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | with your vars, that would be... find $DIR_NAME -path $NO_PATH_01 -prune -o -name \*.so* -exec echo cp {} $DEST_DIR \; -print |
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| 08:39.03 | premoboss | hi. i run debian 7. I want to install amule on a headless pc (PC1) and controll it drom another pc (PC2) unsing a web interface. on debina wiki i fount info about amuleweb, but tht package is not available. any ideas? |
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| 08:40.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | premoboss, apt-cache show amule-daemon |
| 08:40.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | premoboss, well.. and before that you would have done apt-cache search amule and looked at what packages look as if they might fit the score |
| 08:41.02 | dubin | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks I'll try it |
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| 08:41.42 | dubin | CutMeOwnThroat: nothing, doesn't work |
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| 08:42.25 | premoboss | CutMeOwnThroat, got it, blame to me i did't do before. |
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| 08:44.00 | der_graf | Hi there, I am on Debian testing, which currently uses the 3.16.7 kernel.. how can I download the kernel sources? apt-get install linux-source downloads kernel source 4.1. |
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| 08:45.52 | jelly | ,kernels |
| 08:45.54 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.1.6-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u4) |
| 08:46.14 | jelly | der_graf: the bot says stretch: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); |
| 08:46.32 | der_graf | what does this mean? 'sorry' ;) |
| 08:46.40 | jelly | der_graf: make sure your testing system is up-to-date, you're using an old kernel |
| 08:46.48 | der_graf | ahh ok |
| 08:46.59 | jelly | der_graf: what does uname -r say? |
| 08:47.14 | der_graf | 3.16.0-4-amd64 |
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| 08:48.18 | der_graf | apt-get upgrade should upgrade the kernel too or is a dist-upgrade required? |
| 08:48.32 | jelly | der_graf: thne install linux-image-amd64 and linux-headers-amd64, that will keep you with matching and latest kernel and kernel headers for that release |
| 08:49.00 | jelly | what do you need the kernel source for? |
| 08:49.14 | der_graf | compiling a kernel module |
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| 08:50.29 | dubin | find "$DIR_NAME" \( -name '*.so*' -and -not -path "*$NO_PATH_01*" \) -exec cp {} "$DEST_DIR" \; -print |
| 08:50.34 | dubin | with this it works :) |
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| 08:51.15 | der_graf | jelly, thanks.. it looked like the new kernel wasn't installed. |
| 08:51.31 | jelly | der_graf: which kernel module. You only need headers for that, usually. |
| 08:51.58 | ball0 | hello. I have a problem. I upgraded my distro (different volume) and need a .deb from the old one. I do not have the original .deb file |
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| 08:52.12 | jelly | ball0: which debia release are you now using? |
| 08:52.15 | ball0 | basically the repository for the old distro was taken offline |
| 08:52.30 | jelly | ball0: and which release and which old package do you need? |
| 08:52.35 | ball0 | I'm not using debian but some other apt-based distro :-\ |
| 08:52.36 | der_graf | jelly, trying to compile netmap http://info.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/netmap/ |
| 08:52.59 | jelly | ball0: then we can't help, ask the authors of that distro where to get old packages. |
| 08:53.05 | ball0 | and kwavecontrol's ./configure can't find qt and I don't have the source from the contributor who fixed it for the previous version |
| 08:53.20 | ball0 | dude, it's gone |
| 08:53.32 | ball0 | I have the old distro running right now however, in a vm |
| 08:53.53 | ball0 | the old package should install. It's the same dependencies I believe |
| 08:53.56 | jelly | ball0: we can't help you with other distros, dude. Ask in ##linux |
| 08:54.09 | ball0 | ##linux is populated by rpm people |
| 08:54.29 | ball0 | but if you don't know how to make the package I'll try there |
| 08:54.31 | g00se | ugh |
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| 08:55.50 | Ticho | that was amusing |
| 08:56.47 | jelly | I do know, I just don't want random derivative people to ask in here. |
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| 08:59.53 | jelly | would tell that user to use the appropriate tool (dpkg-repack, probably) if they only appeared in ##linux |
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| 09:04.33 | jelly | der_graf: right, so install and boot matching linux-image-* and linux-headers-* packages, install build-essential, then try building your third-party module |
| 09:04.59 | jelly | if it's prepared properly it shouldn't require the whole source, just headers should be enough |
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| 10:26.35 | duser8 | Hi. I am trying to remaster a debian-live-cd. When using genisoimage I get this error message: |
| 10:26.43 | duser8 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.50 | duser8 | this is how I use genisoimage: http://pastebin.com/uNnB8XTM |
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| 10:26.57 | duser8 | could you help me? no idea whats wrong |
| 10:27.06 | jelly | !live |
| 10:27.09 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. See also <live firmware>. |
| 10:27.33 | duser8 | hi jelly.. Yes I know debian live.. but I wanted explicit to use a remastering |
| 10:27.39 | jelly | duser8: try asking in that channel ^^ (note: NOT on freenode, irc.debian.org = irc.oftc.net different irc network) |
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| 10:28.37 | asdg6125 | hello |
| 10:28.42 | asdg6125 | how do i see how much swap space do i have? |
| 10:29.27 | jelly | duser8: what is -hfs supposed to do, do you have a Mac? |
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| 10:29.56 | jelly | asdg6125: "swapon -s" |
| 10:31.12 | asdg6125 | jelly: thanks |
| 10:31.18 | asdg6125 | size 2535420 - how much is this ? |
| 10:31.20 | asdg6125 | in GB |
| 10:31.22 | asdg6125 | 2.5 gb |
| 10:31.23 | asdg6125 | ? |
| 10:32.16 | jelly | asdg6125: yes, the number is KiB |
| 10:32.43 | asdg6125 | thanks jelly |
| 10:32.46 | duser8 | I found it in that (german) manual, what is for ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/LiveCD_manuell_remastern The reason is that the iso has to be hybrid.. so I found this parameter |
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| 10:33.13 | asdg6125 | one last thing - i just installed debian jessie and sudo. i am as username user. i cannot do sudo .. it says i am not added to sudoers list .i have run as root sudo adduser user sudo .. |
| 10:33.15 | asdg6125 | and still the same |
| 10:33.27 | jelly | duser8: yeah, but hybrid iso/hdd image, not hybrid iso/hfs |
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| 10:34.17 | jelly | asdg6125: use "su -" to become root, or log in as root at the console. THEN run "adduser normalusername sudo", then log off and back on as normal user and sudo will work |
| 10:35.41 | duser8 | jelly: mm.. I used to work with that script with ubuntu... that worked.. |
| 10:35.56 | duser8 | jelly: but I could try to run it without -hfs parameter |
| 10:36.14 | asdg6125 | thanks logging off now |
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| 10:37.22 | jelly | duser8: I'd suggest using the docs from live.debian.net instead of some old ubuntu-based tutorial |
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| 10:42.00 | ssn | hi |
| 10:42.01 | SHOTbyGUN | soo, if apt update is stuck at _installer_ is there way to skip it? |
| 10:42.18 | ssn | my debian 8 install contains no openvpn systemd target |
| 10:42.41 | ssn | what did i do wrong (updating from debian 7) |
| 10:42.45 | ssn | ? |
| 10:43.13 | duser8 | jelly: ok.. I will have a look to them |
| 10:43.18 | indrora | SHOTbyGUN, What's the other vty's got to say? |
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| 10:43.49 | indrora | (I'm assuming by _installer_ you mean the debian installer) |
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| 10:44.02 | SHOTbyGUN | indrora: yeah, what is vty? |
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| 10:45.21 | indrora | SHOTbyGUN, first, what's the installer telling you? |
| 10:45.44 | SHOTbyGUN | retrieving file 6 of 6, 3 minutes remaining |
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| 10:46.11 | SHOTbyGUN | it it would work it would be done in 10 seconds :) |
| 10:46.20 | indrora | how long's it been there? |
| 10:47.07 | SHOTbyGUN | few minutes |
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| 10:47.53 | SHOTbyGUN | hmm the timer is going down now, maybe it will end after all :o |
| 10:47.57 | indrora | how high a spec a machine are you installing on? Fairly beefy recent machine with lots of RAM or an older one? |
| 10:48.17 | indrora | Was also going to say it may be your network connection just being slow. |
| 10:48.41 | SHOTbyGUN | not network issue, just some mirrors at apt are always refusing to answer |
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| 10:49.15 | SHOTbyGUN | ah yeah finally it got past it |
| 10:49.18 | ssn | can anyone tell my why there are /lib/systemd/system/ targets missing in a jessie installation that was upgraded from wheezy? |
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| 10:50.47 | indrora | SHOTbyGUN, If it helps, ctl+alt and the F keys move between virtual terminals. There's 4...5 of them by default during install. One of them is the output from apt before and during the actual in-target installation. |
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| 10:51.39 | indrora | SHOTbyGUN, usually, the text based installer is on the first one, the GTK based one is usually on ctl-alt-f7 (vty7) |
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| 10:53.28 | indrora | ssn: potentially because the packages which were responsible for owning those packages have been held back for whatever reason. |
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| 10:54.22 | indrora | s/packages/systemd units/ |
| 10:54.41 | SHOTbyGUN | indrora: oh thats neat, next time I have the same issue I can just ctrl + C into there if it gets stuck right :p ? |
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| 10:58.08 | indrora | SHOTbyGUN, they're protected from such things usually. I wouldn't recommend it in any case, as you're not guaranteed to get the result you're hoping for by a long shot. |
| 10:58.17 | indrora | Best case, it goes "ah well" and gives up for that task |
| 10:58.26 | indrora | Worst case, something critical breaks. |
| 10:58.34 | SHOTbyGUN | alright thanks |
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| 11:12.47 | chridal | Hello! I am trying to install the package `expect` on wheezy. I just want the expect program to do some automation of SSH. It however tries to install X, noveuou and the whole lot. How can I stop it from doing this? |
| 11:12.51 | chridal | I just want the terminal program |
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| 11:16.45 | break3r | --without-recommends maybe? |
| 11:16.51 | indrora | chridal, It looks like `expect` recommends tk8.6, which depends on X and friends (because it's a graphics toolkit for tcl). You can pass `--no-install-recommends` to apt-get or `--without-recommends` to aptitude. |
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| 11:17.06 | chridal | Ah! Thanks guys. |
| 11:17.21 | break3r | wow, that's a great answer :D |
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| 11:18.31 | indrora | break3r, I still use apt-get -- I haven't broken the habit yet, and synaptic can be a sludge sometimes for me. |
| 11:18.51 | indrora | aptitude is also sometimes bleh |
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| 11:19.11 | indrora | if I forget something with apt-get it yells at me. I forget something in aptitude, I get a curses interface. |
| 11:20.10 | msn | pretty much, in the end apt-get is better i think |
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| 11:20.30 | msn | i don't think i have used aptitude yet on any deb machine i am managing |
| 11:20.30 | break3r | I think that depends |
| 11:20.37 | break3r | apt-get is faster for example |
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| 11:20.48 | indrora | but tends to make boneheaded decisions |
| 11:20.51 | msn | and if it does things in the back i don't trust it |
| 11:20.52 | break3r | and usually gets recommendations, suggestions and needed packages better |
| 11:21.25 | msn | i havent had a single system fail with apt-get |
| 11:21.33 | msn | with aptitude well don't know never tried |
| 11:21.35 | rozie | take a look on wajig if you would like easier apt-get |
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| 11:22.49 | break3r | when i started with linux i was always told to use aptitude, i didn't know about apt-get...that came later. never had any problem, but there was a nice package which warned about packages which shouldnt be updated, since there are errors |
| 11:23.05 | break3r | and i like aptitude to show details about packages and search for packages |
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| 11:23.50 | break3r | in the end, now i am using both...search and details by aptitude, installing, upgrading and stuff by apt-get |
| 11:24.30 | indrora | I learned on apt-get and apt-cache |
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| 11:26.08 | indrora | The fact I learned from a sometimes debian developer didn't help either. |
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| 11:36.22 | xeirrr | Hi, guys. is Debian 7.9 still running sysvinitï¼ |
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| 11:37.38 | Mohamed_DZ | how can I resume downloading file without URL? I have the file & file.aria2 |
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| 11:39.01 | indrora | Mohamed_DZ, it might be in your history. cat ~/.bash_history | grep aria2 |
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| 11:41.12 | Mohamed_DZ | indrora: No, I downloaded it with FlashGot so I didn't used terminal |
| 11:41.43 | indrora | Mohamed_DZ, Can't help you then. Maybe flashgot remembers, but it's unlikely. |
| 11:42.12 | Mohamed_DZ | indrora: Thanks anyway. |
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| 11:43.28 | Argish | xeirrr: yes |
| 11:44.06 | xeirrr | Argish: great, ty |
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| 11:45.40 | duser8 | what could be wrong if copying files to /etc/skel/ has no effect? copying tells me no errors... but the files arent in the live system after creating iso. |
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| 11:46.54 | duser8 | I have exact that question: http://superuser.com/questions/912418/why-isnt-etc-skel-kde-being-copied-into-new-user-directories |
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| 11:49.56 | jelly | duser8: you'll probably get better answers if you ask in the place where debian-live experts reside |
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| 12:11.55 | DJVG | Hi all! I'm running keepalived 1.2.19 with Debian Jessie and I've got a problem with ipv6 virtualservers. |
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| 12:12.21 | DJVG | When I add add a server to the ipvs table I returns this error: IPVS: Operation not supported with specified address family |
| 12:12.51 | DJVG | I'm currently running 3.16.0-4-amd64 and CONFIG_IP_VS_IPV6 is enabled in this config |
| 12:14.03 | DJVG | I read something about libnl not able to handle ipv6 address but as far as I can see only =< 1.2.9 is affected so my 1.2.19 should work just fine |
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| 12:18.15 | head8debian | hmm, im trying to download the nonfree ISOs using torrents, but they are stalled for some reason. |
| 12:18.25 | head8debian | All 10 or 12 or however many there are. |
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| 12:20.36 | gr8 | what the fuck? I am trying to uninstall iceweasel, but apt-get automatically installs icedove then?! When doing apt-get remove icedove, again, it says the following packages will be installed: iceweasel. WTF? |
| 12:21.54 | gr8 | ok I was able to purge them both at once, but why the heck is this necessary? |
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| 12:26.23 | epsilon | guess some package has dependecy on one of these packages. some plugin for example |
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| 12:38.10 | Ams|erdam | Hi Do you can help me? |
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| 12:39.44 | boblee | help you do we can |
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| 12:40.19 | Ams|erdam | I try to install node.js in the vps |
| 12:40.23 | Ams|erdam | but I can´t |
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| 12:40.36 | Ams|erdam | say I need to install this.. |
| 12:40.45 | Ams|erdam | g++-4.9 |
| 12:40.51 | Ams|erdam | but I can´t also |
| 12:40.54 | Ams|erdam | :( |
| 12:41.01 | jelly | Ams|erdam: which debian release are you using? |
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| 12:41.09 | Ams|erdam | 6 32 |
| 12:41.21 | jelly | Ams|erdam: debian 6 is too old to have g++ 4.9 |
| 12:41.24 | jelly | ,v g++-4.9 |
| 12:41.25 | judd | Package: g++-4.9 on amd64 -- jessie: 4.9.2-10; sid: 4.9.3-4; stretch: 4.9.3-4 |
| 12:41.32 | Ams|erdam | uff :( |
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| 12:41.36 | jelly | ^^ jessie is debian 8, the current release |
| 12:41.55 | Ams|erdam | and What can I do? |
| 12:42.26 | jelly | Ams|erdam: is it a fresh install or is there stuff already in production? |
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| 12:42.50 | Ams|erdam | stuff already in production |
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| 12:43.47 | jelly | Ams|erdam: you'll need to clone it for testing, and do release upgrades 6->7, then 7->8 on the test system, fix any breakage |
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| 12:44.02 | jelly | Ams|erdam: ...then do it in production |
| 12:45.06 | jelly | Ams|erdam: alternatives: or install debian 8 fresh in a different VPS and migrate stuff. Or try to set up a debian 8 (codename jessie) chroot with debootstrap. |
| 12:45.07 | Ams|erdam | and other solution to install node.js ? |
| 12:45.28 | jelly | ,v nodejs |
| 12:45.29 | judd | Package: nodejs on amd64 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.29~dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.10.29~dfsg-2; stretch: 0.10.38~dfsg-1; sid: 4.1.0~dfsg-3 |
| 12:45.46 | jelly | apparently there's a build for debian 7 (wheezy) |
| 12:45.55 | Ams|erdam | mm |
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| 12:47.26 | jelly | but you'd still have to use a wheezy backport, or do squeeze->wheezy |
| 12:47.36 | jelly | a wheezy chroot* |
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| 13:11.47 | mueble | Hi guys my debian jessie crashes when I shutdown and In some other instances. Wheesy was super-stable. How can I determine if the problem is with the drivers or Gnome or something else?. |
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| 13:15.03 | adkins | hey guys, i have my users home folder on another partition and want to have it back on root again. Whatzs the easiest way to do this? |
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| 13:18.11 | nyef | adkins: I'd boot single-user, unmount /home, mount it on /mnt, cp -dpRvx /mnt/* /home/, edit fstab to comment out the old home filesystem, return from single-user. Make sure that you have enough free space on / before you try this. |
| 13:18.54 | adkins | nyef: thx |
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| 13:23.25 | mueble | Hi guys my debian jessie crashes when I shutdown and In some other |
| 13:23.25 | mueble | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:32.50 | arunangshu | on issuing make command i am getting this errors http://pastebin.com/jELz3qBv what to do i am new here |
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| 13:33.52 | cventr | I guys. From "top" and "free -m" I get that I'm using 400/512 MB but all the processes uses max 2.7% of Memory... how can I find which process is using memory all that memory? |
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| 13:35.06 | jelly | cventr: the -/+ buffers/cache: line is relevant, not the one above |
| 13:35.08 | duser9 | how do I configure kde settings in remastering? /etc/skel has no effect? |
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| 13:36.04 | cventr | jelly: -/+ buffers/cache: 84 400 |
| 13:36.16 | DJVG | Well, I'm able to add a virtual/real server using ipvsadm but keepalived won't work. I'm using libnl 3 but the keepalived healtchecker keeps reporting: IPVS: Operation not supported with specified address family |
| 13:36.32 | arunangshu | on issuing make command i am getting this errors http://pastebin.com/jELz3qBv what to do |
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| 13:42.04 | jelly | cventr: so you have 400M free if you account for the fact buffers/cache can be reused as needed |
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| 13:44.31 | DJVG | Well, I finally found it. pkg-config was not installed so it didn't pass the libnl prefix to the compiler but configure did fount the libnl lib's and reported it as working. |
| 13:44.39 | JuanDaugherty | the netconfig situation post install is grim, if you don't want to do in text, at the command line |
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| 13:44.46 | DJVG | After I installed pkg-config everything is working... |
| 13:45.12 | DJVG | Going to fill a bugreport about this, configure should fail in this case |
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| 13:52.38 | JuanDaugherty | amazing |
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| 14:17.55 | darxmurf | does crontab accept something like : /path/to/my/command.sh $(date +%m-%d-%Y -d "-1 day") |
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| 14:18.09 | darxmurf | as I need to give the yesterday date as an argument |
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| 14:20.15 | AtlasVoid | ' |
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| 14:23.30 | themill | darxmurf: % is a magic character for crontabs |
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| 14:25.03 | darxmurf | apparently I can escape the % |
| 14:25.14 | darxmurf | like : 5 * * * * /tmp/scripts/ksh/CsVues_H.sh $(date +\%Y\%m\%d_\%H) >> /tmp/scripts/ksh/Cronresult.log |
| 14:25.17 | darxmurf | I'll try |
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| 14:29.50 | themill | darxmurf: yes. Sometimes it's easier to move the complexity out of crontab and into a script |
| 14:30.09 | darxmurf | yep |
| 14:30.11 | themill | (also, ksh? and working in /tmp?) |
| 14:31.24 | jelly | \ksh/ |
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| 14:32.14 | jelly | a good while ago, a coworker had some cron jobs and reports in /tmp/ ... guess what happened when the machine rebooted |
| 14:32.29 | jelly | guess which mountpoint was never backed up |
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| 14:32.51 | randomuser123 | is there any plugin for gimp which allows to draw shapes in it like in cad software? |
| 14:33.00 | themill | The remaining question is who learnt the lesson, the coworker or the person who hired them? |
| 14:33.15 | jelly | themill: still employed here, you tell me |
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| 14:33.22 | randomuser123 | lines of certain length, angle, trim at intersections |
| 14:33.26 | randomuser123 | stuff like that |
| 14:33.26 | themill | jelly: neither? |
| 14:33.30 | jelly | :-( |
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| 14:36.31 | yei | hi |
| 14:36.53 | themill | randomuser123: gimp sounds like the wrong tool for the job |
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| 14:37.57 | randomuser123 | themill, do you know any open source tools to do stuff like that? |
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| 14:38.31 | Filystyn | how i fix this |
| 14:38.32 | Filystyn | http://paste.ubuntu.com/12521449/ |
| 14:38.36 | Filystyn | ops sorry wrong |
| 14:38.49 | Filystyn | [....] Your system does not have the CPU extensions required to use KVM. Not doi[FAILything. ... failed! |
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| 14:39.50 | themill | randomuser123: there are CAD tools in Debian. |
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| 14:45.02 | jelly | Filystyn: what kind of hardware platform is that running on? flags don't show either "vmx" or "svm". |
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| 14:45.52 | Filystyn | jelly it's solved |
| 14:45.56 | Filystyn | i simply can't have this |
| 14:46.03 | Filystyn | Thank you for trying to help anyway |
| 14:46.40 | jelly | you can't have nice things? |
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| 14:47.54 | Filystyn | i was already helped : Filystyn: Done. http://ark.intel.com/products/37251/Intel-Pentium-Processor-T4200-1M-Cache-2_00-GHz-800-MHz-FSB Congratulations you got a stripped down CPU model that doesn't support virtualization, so... no KVM for you. |
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| 14:49.46 | randomuser123 | you can still have software virtualization |
| 14:49.57 | randomuser123 | more like emulation really |
| 14:50.11 | shay_shay | randomuser123: you can use a vector program such as inkscape to do 2d layouts |
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| 14:50.49 | shay_shay | lines and arcs of precise lengths that can get imported into other software and maintain scale |
| 14:51.06 | shay_shay | (this is what I do for work) |
| 14:51.39 | shay_shay | I'm a CADer and machinist |
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| 14:53.19 | randomuser123 | shay_shay, thanks |
| 14:53.34 | shay_shay | were you looking for 3d? |
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| 14:55.14 | adkins | i have restored my system to another formatted partition (has new UUID now). Is it enough to put the new UUID in /boot/grub/grub.cfg and do a "update-grub" ? |
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| 14:55.58 | shay_shay | adkins: you need to update uuids in your fstab too |
| 14:56.09 | adkins | yes i did that already |
| 14:56.30 | n1nja | Can anyone help me find codecs for jessie vlc? |
| 14:58.35 | ctmjr | n1nja: vlc has it's own codecs there is nothing to find |
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| 14:59.17 | somiaj | n1nja: what video format is not being played correctly? as ctmjr said you shouldn't have to install anything new. |
| 14:59.22 | n1nja | It's not playing DVDs. Every time I download vlc for ubuntu, I have to install a pkg. I see one available for Wheezy, but nothing for Jessie. |
| 15:00.30 | ctmjr | ,v libdvdread |
| 15:00.31 | judd | No package named 'libdvdread' was found in amd64. |
| 15:01.06 | markybob | ,v libdvdread4 |
| 15:01.07 | n1nja | yeah's I've tried libdvdread4 (i386) several times. |
| 15:01.08 | judd | Package: libdvdread4 on amd64 -- squeeze: 4.1.3-10; wheezy: 4.2.0+20120521-2; wheezy-backports: 4.2.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 5.0.0-1; stretch: 5.0.3-1; sid: 5.0.3-1 |
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| 15:01.29 | n1nja | It's a USB drive, so I went i386 |
| 15:01.47 | adkins | shay_shay: if i have dual-boot (windows/linux) and now booted into ubuntu live-cd....what shall i do now to update grub? |
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| 15:02.12 | markybob | adkins, i don't know. ask #ubuntu |
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| 15:03.26 | MrBar | hi |
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| 15:03.34 | MrBar | how to purge systemd? |
| 15:03.54 | themill | dpkg: tell MrBar about remove systemd |
| 15:05.42 | telliev | hello, im trying to add a network interface like that: 'iw dev wlan0 interface add wlan0_sta type station' |
| 15:05.45 | ctmjr | n1nja: look into libdvdcss you have to get it from videolan |
| 15:06.04 | telliev | and when i set a hw address i got: Cannot find device "wlan0_sta" |
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| 15:07.43 | MrBar | themill, looks good |
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| 15:12.06 | n1nja | Is Debian's Videos apt supposed to be able to play DVDs by default? 'Cause that hasn't been working so well, either.. |
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| 15:13.08 | darius93 | whats recommended to improve qcow2 performance? |
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| 15:13.36 | themill | n1nja: there's no ability to play CSS-protected DVDs within Debian at all |
| 15:13.49 | n1nja | O_O |
| 15:13.51 | Otto__ | Hi ! Could someone recommend me a full-disk encryption software like Truecrypt in its time, please ? |
| 15:14.15 | n1nja | So, if I wanna watch DVDs, I should revert to Ubuntu? |
| 15:14.27 | themill | no, you need to get libdvdcss from somewhere else |
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| 15:15.35 | themill | n1nja: https://wiki.debian.org/CDDVD#DVD |
| 15:15.42 | n1nja | I've been looking for libdvdcss... Atm, got libdvdcss2_1.2.13-0_i386 downloaded and extracted.. |
| 15:15.43 | MrBar | darius93, general recomendation is to avoid using qcow2 |
| 15:15.44 | shay_shay | n1nja: get it from vlc website |
| 15:15.52 | randomuser123 | Otto__, luks/dm-crypt |
| 15:15.56 | n1nja | yeah, I've been looking everywhere. |
| 15:16.55 | shay_shay | n1nja: except for the wiki |
| 15:17.21 | MrBar | n1nja, if u wanna watch DVDs you should revert to windows |
| 15:17.28 | n1nja | lulz. I've been to vlc, I've been to wiki... |
| 15:17.35 | Otto__ | randomuser123: Thanks. Will it ask me a password at boot like Truecrypt ? |
| 15:17.37 | n1nja | F*** WINDOWS |
| 15:17.45 | MrBar | why? |
| 15:17.48 | shay_shay | n1nja: follow the link the mill posted |
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| 15:17.53 | n1nja | I can watch DVDs on Ubuntu, so I know I should be able to on Debian. |
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| 15:18.02 | randomuser123 | Otto__, what os are you using? |
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| 15:18.26 | Otto__ | randomuser123: If I'm here ? |
| 15:18.31 | shay_shay | n1nja: you can, you were already given the link that explains how to get libdvdcss |
| 15:18.39 | n1nja | I'm working on it... |
| 15:18.39 | MrBar | n1nja, why u wath DVDs ? it just old crap, use youtube |
| 15:18.58 | n1nja | Yeah, I use YouTube, for music, but I still like to watch DVDs. |
| 15:19.03 | randomuser123 | Otto__, when you are installing debian there is an option to use full disk encryption |
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| 15:19.07 | shay_shay | MrBar: no need to antagonise him |
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| 15:19.14 | darius93 | MrBar, may i ask why? |
| 15:19.40 | MrBar | darius93, wrong designed , lacks of tools |
| 15:20.11 | n1nja | Okay, so, the link mills brought me to... Already went there, got the download, extracted it.. How do I go about Terminal for this? |
| 15:20.29 | Otto__ | randomuser123: My last Debian reinstallation was a long time ago. Thanks for all ! |
| 15:20.37 | darius93 | i dont know what you mean by lack of tools but wrong design? It been around for years from what ive seen |
| 15:20.49 | MrBar | darius93, need to prereserve space but it not implemented not working for me |
| 15:21.35 | MrBar | darius93, i use qcow2 too but it painfull slow |
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| 15:22.20 | n1nja | themill, shay_shay, already got the download extracted. How do I go about Terminal for this? |
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| 15:22.57 | darius93 | MrBar, you mean preallocation? iirc you could "qemu-img create -f qcow2 -o preallocation=metadata /path/to/image.qcow2 10G" and that would create a qcow2 image allocated up to 10G |
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| 15:23.51 | n1nja | -_- |
| 15:24.05 | MrBar | darius93, great what if i need to prealocate new 10Gb ? |
| 15:24.40 | themill | n1nja: "download extracted"? |
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| 15:24.49 | chris101 | Hi All, just setup an ntp server in debian Jessie using the apt-get ntp. i've configured the ntp.conf for uk ntp servers but the output of ntpq-pn although shows the servers as expected show no delay or offset or jitter. there is also no * or + or - signs |
| 15:24.50 | n1nja | well... |
| 15:24.54 | chris101 | i have the configuration here http://paste.ee/p/KSjK7 if anyone has a few moments to look over my configuration it would be most appreciated. Thanks you in advanced |
| 15:24.57 | MrBar | darius93, what if i need to autamote preallocate to 1Gb at step? |
| 15:24.59 | darius93 | MrBar, use libguestfs virt-resize to resize the partition |
| 15:25.03 | n1nja | I got the download and I ignorantly extracted it. |
| 15:25.13 | n1nja | hold on |
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| 15:27.43 | n1nja | oh boy |
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| 15:28.06 | darius93 | though its not very clean since it doesnt resize in place but i use virt-resize to resize partitions within a guest on my server or desktop |
| 15:28.12 | n1nja | Okay, so got the apt-key add-libdvdss command in. Came up with a list of idk wtf. |
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| 15:29.17 | n1nja | >8-C I hate enduring the newb phases. |
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| 15:29.26 | shay_shay | n1nja can you paste actual output? nobody knows what "idk wtf" means |
| 15:29.45 | shay_shay | not here |
| 15:29.48 | n1nja | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:30.25 | shay_shay | n1nja: paste on a pastebin site |
| 15:30.36 | shay_shay | not IRC |
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| 15:31.00 | MrBar | darius93, i use virt-resize on qcow2 but it noting prealocate at all and resized image start work more slow |
| 15:31.16 | shay_shay | n1nja: e.g http://dpaste.com/ |
| 15:31.18 | n1nja | http://pastebin.com/hPJ8jbeJ |
| 15:31.48 | darius93 | MrBar, do you have virtio enabled? |
| 15:31.52 | n1nja | ...clicking links without checking for malware... |
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| 15:32.19 | shay_shay | n1nja: its just showing you a list of valid commands because you typed an invalid command |
| 15:32.21 | MrBar | darius93, i try it no virtio and sate same effect |
| 15:32.32 | shay_shay | you didn't include the command you typed in the paste |
| 15:32.45 | shay_shay | you really could not make this harder on us |
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| 15:33.00 | n1nja | oh ffs |
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| 15:33.08 | MrBar | darius93, raw images just work as expected near at native speed of disk |
| 15:33.12 | n1nja | I typed what the site told me to... |
| 15:33.28 | shay_shay | throws in the towel |
| 15:33.30 | MrBar | darius93, qcow2 have buzz and fuzz |
| 15:33.32 | n1nja | https://wiki.debian.org/CDDVD#DVD |
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| 15:34.06 | darius93 | MrBar, weird because its not that bad on my machine. are you using libvirt? and yea raw (or lv) do work at near speed of the disk. the only thing qcow2 has is meta data that could cause a degrading in performance (especially without correct caching) |
| 15:34.37 | n1nja | Hey_hey, shay_shay, I wouldn't be here asking for help if I wasn't having that hard of a time.. |
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| 15:35.32 | shay_shay | then redo the paste including the command you typed. in the terminal select the command prompt and everything before you copy the text |
| 15:35.46 | darius93 | if youre using libvirt could you paste the content of virsh dumpxml <guest name> ? |
| 15:35.49 | shay_shay | if you do that then people other than yourself can spot typos |
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| 15:36.04 | MrBar | darius93, i try qcow with different caching options that supported by qemu but effect same |
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| 15:37.24 | n1nja | http://pastebin.com/49Cfcpup |
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| 15:37.49 | forgottenarcher | hey guys, just intalled and for the life of me I can't get xrandr to acknowledge that I have a external VGA moniter, I'm coming from an arch install and it worked great on there |
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| 15:38.07 | forgottenarcher | I did lots of googling but most people gave up |
| 15:38.11 | n1nja | I want my Ubuntu! 8'-C |
| 15:38.45 | n1nja | But seriously.. |
| 15:39.08 | monikers | E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. |
| 15:39.08 | monikers | E: Couldn't rebuild package cache |
| 15:39.09 | n1nja | I never had this much trouble with Ubuntu. |
| 15:39.17 | MrBar | darius93, qcow uses some algorithms for maintain sparse but without tuning options for this |
| 15:39.21 | monikers | I am getting these errors while doing aptitude update |
| 15:39.26 | monikers | what could be the problem? |
| 15:39.38 | darius93 | MrBar, im just curious, could you provide the domain xml? |
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| 15:40.16 | monikers | is there a problem with jessie backport repo? |
| 15:40.34 | MrBar | darius93, currently all cliens go in raw |
| 15:40.47 | MrBar | darius93, may be all ) |
| 15:40.52 | darius93 | ah ok |
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| 15:40.58 | MrBar | darius93, check this later, sorry ) |
| 15:41.11 | MrBar | at week end ) |
| 15:41.12 | tamuren | How do I make cron acknowledge a program I can use after updating my $PATH? |
| 15:41.55 | tamuren | I updated my $PATH in .bashrc to include where drush was installed. I made a crontab to run drush. It says drush is not recognized |
| 15:42.12 | MrBar | darius93, when qcow fully prealocate then it work good, but why use it? |
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| 15:43.54 | g00se | Best practice afaik is always to put the full path to scripts in cron |
| 15:44.17 | MrBar | why? |
| 15:44.52 | darius93 | Well im using raw in production but been curious about qcow2 alot and alot of the available features for it but ive also heard it does have abit more of a impact on performance if there isnt a preallocated image, and if caching is wrong |
| 15:45.40 | MrBar | darius93, what features of qcow u use? |
| 15:46.20 | MrBar | darius93, modern linux kernel work goot with sparsed raws |
| 15:48.22 | asterismo_m | hi ppl, is the pidgin facebook chat working in debian 8? |
| 15:48.39 | asterismo_m | where can i ask this? |
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| 15:50.06 | MrBar | asterismo_m, just try, i belive it work ) |
| 15:51.43 | asterismo_m | MrBar: ok i dont have fb, a friend of mine is trying to get that working and is failing, thanks. just wanted to know if maybe that wasnt working anymore |
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| 15:59.53 | hashtag_ | hi |
| 16:00.04 | hashtag_ | Is there a -very simply - command to give me just the ip address of interface eth0? |
| 16:00.17 | hashtag_ | not always a tool like facter is installed |
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| 16:01.37 | centrx | hashtag_, ifconfig |
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| 16:04.27 | markybob | hashtag_, maybe...if you just want the ip, use regex. something like ip addr | grep -Po '(?!(inet 127.\d.\d.1))(inet \K(\d{1,3}\.){3}\d{1,3})' |
| 16:05.04 | hashtag_ | cool |
| 16:05.33 | hashtag_ | hm, maybe I can have a shortcut - is there a way for ssh command to tunnel-listen on the primary (eth0) ip address? or better - on localhost _and_ ethÃ? |
| 16:05.35 | hashtag_ | eth0 |
| 16:05.46 | hashtag_ | because currently I have to first find out the eth0 ip address and then use it for ssh tunnel command |
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| 16:07.27 | markybob | hashtag_, use the command i showed you earlier and incorporate it into a script. it's not hard. google bash howto |
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| 16:08.32 | hashtag_ | markybob: yes, this would be a way. It doesn't seem to be possible instructing ssh command itself to just listen on eth0 and localhost, no? |
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| 16:09.22 | markybob | hashtag_, you can tell ssh to listen to whatever interface you want to. |
| 16:10.20 | markybob | hashtag_, in sshd_config |
| 16:10.21 | markybob | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.37 | hashtag_ | ah |
| 16:10.39 | hashtag_ | ok |
| 16:11.04 | chris101 | Hi All, just setup an ntp server in debian Jessie using the apt-get ntp. i've configured the ntp.conf for uk ntp servers but the output of ntpq-pn although shows the servers as expected show no delay or offset or jitter. there is also no * or + or - signs |
| 16:11.08 | chris101 | i have the configuration here http://paste.ee/p/KSjK7 if anyone has a few moments to look over my configuration it would be most appreciated. Thanks you in advanced |
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| 16:11.13 | srged | hello. I have an alpha usb wireless card, how can i boost the incoming signal ? |
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| 16:12.32 | n1nja | I don't suppose you guys know anything about Media Ciphers, do ya? |
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| 16:13.56 | monikers | Where do I go to find suggestion on what format to use? |
| 16:14.07 | monikers | I would like to know about a format for storing scanned documents? |
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| 16:15.25 | markybob | monikers, i work in healthcare and we can thousands a day...we use pdf |
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| 16:16.05 | monikers | markybob, So PDFs are most effective to use? |
| 16:16.22 | markybob | monikers, in my experience |
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| 16:17.29 | rattking | srged: I think location or getting a better antenna is about all you can do from the receiving side |
| 16:17.34 | monikers | markybob, I was thinking about Djvu |
| 16:17.46 | darius93 | asterismo_m, i dont think it works anymore since facebook disabled their chat api. I could be wrong though |
| 16:17.59 | chris101 | is anyone available to comment in regards to NTP? |
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| 16:18.52 | markybob | monikers, pdf: data compression. free use. iso standard. clear winner |
| 16:18.52 | rwp | chris101, Always better to simply ask a question rather than asking to ask. |
| 16:19.01 | chris101 | i did twice |
| 16:19.08 | Tools | rwp, he's referring to his earlier question. |
| 16:19.11 | chris101 | 17:12 < chris101> Hi All, just setup an ntp server in debian Jessie using the apt-get ntp. i've configured the ntp.conf for uk ntp servers but the output of ntpq-pn although shows the servers as expected |
| 16:19.14 | chris101 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:20.08 | chris101 | 16:25 < chris101> i have the configuration here http://paste.ee/p/KSjK7 if anyone has a few moments to look over my configuration it would be most appreciated. Thanks you in advanced |
| 16:20.11 | rwp | Sorry. It is my morning time so just now back online after the night. |
| 16:20.12 | chris101 | 16:25 < chris101> i have the configuration here http://paste.ee/p/KSjK7 if anyone has a few moments to look over my configuration it would be most appreciated. Thanks you in advanced |
| 16:20.16 | markybob | chris101, stop |
| 16:20.42 | rwp | Does it never leave the INIT state? |
| 16:21.02 | chris101 | sorry i didnt see it was doing that.. |
| 16:21.23 | rwp | The reach field is a bit field that if 0 means no bits ever set and that server was never reached. |
| 16:21.27 | chris101 | rwp: it always looks the same |
| 16:21.54 | rwp | Then I suspect a firewall is blocking the udp packets on port 123. |
| 16:21.56 | chris101 | if i run ntpdate i get sent and received messgaes |
| 16:22.09 | rwp | ntpdate will use tcp for the connection |
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| 16:22.31 | chris101 | rwp ok, also the firewall is allowing all connections for this test |
| 16:22.35 | rwp | ntp normally will send a low bandwidth diddle of udp packets |
| 16:23.01 | monikers | markybob, ok :) |
| 16:23.54 | rwp | The poll field is also interesting in general. As servers get to be known the poll time will increase from 64 seconds to 1024 seconds in order to reduce bandwidth. |
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| 16:24.10 | rwp | All I can tell from your ntpq -p output is that it has never made any connection. |
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| 16:25.27 | chris101 | rwp how often should it be trying? |
| 16:25.32 | rwp | If it were me, in my environment, I would log into my firewall and run 'tcpdump -lni any port 123' in order to watch packets coming and going and verifying that queries had responses and looking at IP addresses. |
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| 16:25.47 | rwp | But I have a Debian firewall machine doing my NAT so this is easy. |
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| 16:26.04 | rwp | I assume that other people are using less sophisticated things and this is more difficult. |
| 16:26.36 | chris101 | i can view packets being NAT'd through my gateway |
| 16:26.52 | rwp | chris101, Initially ntp will query every server every 64 seconds. It will back off as the jitter and other parameters become known and the error rate allows. |
| 16:27.08 | chris101 | rwp to clairify i mean i have the ability to, not i have seen packets arriving. |
| 16:27.11 | rwp | Normally 64 seconds in the poll field. But then it backs off. |
| 16:27.12 | chris101 | rwp ill check that |
| 16:27.31 | rwp | The reach field is a bit mapped pipeline of bits. It starts off zero. |
| 16:27.48 | rwp | It is octal. 0 means no bits and never had a connection. |
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| 16:28.15 | rwp | 377 is 8 bits all ones and the connect succeeded each time. |
| 16:28.48 | rwp | Normally a healthy system will show 377 but it is udp and "unreliable" and it is very much okay to see a few packets shown as lost there. |
| 16:29.19 | rwp | Looking at mine right now I have one with a dropout right now. It's okay. |
| 16:29.37 | rwp | But yours again showed all zeros for every server. It never had any connection in the recent memory. |
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| 16:29.57 | chris101 | would you be able to share you ntp.conf on a pastee ? |
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| 16:30.32 | chris101 | hmm |
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| 16:31.06 | chris101 | rwp: or could you tell me that the configuration ifle i have hasnt got any obvious syntax issues. |
| 16:31.20 | rwp | Sure. But nothing exciting about mine. The stock packged Debian ntp.conf works fine. |
| 16:31.32 | rwp | Your configuration file looks fine. |
| 16:31.43 | rwp | I suspect something is interfering with the network connectivity. |
| 16:31.49 | chris101 | rwp: i've check with numerours guides and the man pages and it look sright to me. as i've only just had a go with ntp having a more knowledgeable set of eyes on it would be appreciated |
| 16:31.56 | chris101 | ok thansk for confirming |
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| 16:33.37 | rwp | I don't know a better way to understand and debug the network side other than running 'tcpdump -lni any port 123' and looking and understanding what it is saying. |
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| 16:34.12 | rwp | The ntpd will send out queries and there should be responses. |
| 16:34.36 | rwp | I suspect that your system is sending out queries and either there is no response or the response is mangled to/from the wrong address and therefore ignored. |
| 16:34.49 | rwp | If so that will be the source of many other problems and should definitely be understood and fixed. |
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| 16:36.18 | rwp | 'tcpdump -vlni any port 123' gives even more details, probably too much. I know that these days a lot of people like the 'wireshark' graphical interface better and that is fine. If it has a better impedance match to your brain then use wireshark instead. |
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| 16:37.27 | chris101 | rwp: I can see traffic being sent out from the LAN just never receieving. sounds liek the router is firewalling inbound traffic. http://paste.ee/p/Hp7fA |
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| 16:38.24 | rwp | Looks like it. Packets are going out seemingly okay. But no responses are ever seen. Looks like something is blocking it. |
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| 16:38.43 | rwp | What type of device is your router-firewall? |
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| 16:39.00 | chris101 | its an industrial firewall that no one has ever heard of... |
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| 16:41.16 | iv_ | hi, after a recent mysql-server upgrade (debian-testing), it's very slow to stop. /etc/init.d/mysql stop takes ~10 minutes to finish |
| 16:41.24 | iv_ | any ideas what it can be? |
| 16:41.33 | iv_ | nothing useful in logs |
| 16:42.32 | jormothy | si |
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| 16:42.36 | chris101 | rwp: Found the issue.. it was a a port forwarding rule f*cking up... |
| 16:42.46 | rwp | There you go. |
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| 16:43.21 | Baboon | any idea on how I could download and install new packages which has not been accepted yet ? |
| 16:43.36 | Baboon | I need virtualbox and the package is broken on sid |
| 16:43.38 | centrx | Baboon, What do you mean exactly? |
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| 16:43.52 | Baboon | the fix is ready : https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=799675 |
| 16:43.53 | rwp | iv_, I am running mysql, with no troubles, will try a restart, but with a traditional init system and thereffore probably not a comparable environment to you. |
| 16:43.53 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/799675 in virtualbox (closed): «[virtualbox] missing packages in sid»; severity: grave; opened: 2015-09-21; last modified: 2015-09-21. |
| 16:44.02 | centrx | Baboon, You could get the version from testing/stretch, that works |
| 16:44.07 | Baboon | but I don't see how I could download and install the deb |
| 16:45.03 | Baboon | hmm |
| 16:45.03 | rwp | Baboon, Normally a Sid user also needs Testing in the sources.list file for just such things. It is often needed to downgrade to the previous version in testing. With testing in sources.list one gets the packages from there. |
| 16:45.18 | Baboon | hmkay, thank you |
| 16:45.27 | iv_ | rwp: cheers |
| 16:45.34 | rwp | And if the migration from Sid to Testing has already occurred then the Sid user needs to know about snapshot.debian.org so as to retrieve working versions from there. |
| 16:46.23 | rwp | iv_, I just 'time service mysql stop' and it was 4.6 seconds real time. |
| 16:46.33 | jormothy | got debian working on a chromebox after flashing coreboot. wish there were better drivers for the i3 CPUs, i cant get display rotation to work :( |
| 16:46.37 | rwp | iv_, I just 'time service mysql start' and it was 2.3 seconds real time. |
| 16:46.58 | rwp | Since you are hands on your own system you will have to dig in and debug it. |
| 16:47.16 | iv_ | cool. my systemd evaluates the stop for 10 minutes 1 seconds and spends it fully |
| 16:47.32 | centrx | iv_, Could be some queries running that it waits for? |
| 16:47.36 | iv_ | and it was ok with the previous mysql-server package. the upgrade broke it |
| 16:47.55 | iv_ | no - it's the same on a fresh install with no dbs at all |
| 16:47.56 | Baboon | any reference about how to manage mixed sources.list rwp ? |
| 16:48.23 | rwp | I am subscribed to mysql bugs and i haven't seen any similar reports recently. You may be the first. In which case a bug report would be appreciated. |
| 16:49.03 | iv_ | i'll check the waiting queris though as you suggested. mysql db is still there, what if it's blocked |
| 16:49.48 | rwp | Do you mean, After you stop it the daemon is still running? |
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| 16:50.05 | DelphiWorld | hi debianised world;) |
| 16:50.06 | rwp | If so then I would kill it all with ps -ef | grep mysql to find the pid and kill it. |
| 16:50.18 | DelphiWorld | what should i install to get 32bit supports in a 64bit jessie? |
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| 16:50.37 | rwp | It won't be blocked then. |
| 16:50.40 | Baboon | problem solved, thanks for the help |
| 16:50.40 | centrx | !multiarch |
| 16:50.41 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
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| 16:50.43 | rwp | But that may be quite heavy handed too. |
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| 16:53.00 | DelphiWorld | centrx: that's something else. i have existing i386 binary that need to be run in a x64 machine, i need to install a package like ia32 or something |
| 16:53.36 | iv_ | with killall mysqld it's fast - but it doesnt seem a proper way. when i stop it from init.d, the stop process starts and runs for 10 minutes |
| 16:53.38 | rwp | The old ia32 package has been deprecated in favor of the new multiarch. |
| 16:53.41 | markybob | DelphiWorld, no. that's exactly what you need. |
| 16:54.08 | iv_ | ok i'll try to check if any blocked queries exist and then probably try to report |
| 16:54.13 | rwp | iv_, Sounds broken. You will have to dig in and debug it. |
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| 16:54.23 | iv_ | thanks, guys |
| 16:54.39 | rwp | Good luck! :-) |
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| 16:55.36 | DelphiWorld | ahahaha, centrx. did i miss ask? |
| 16:55.37 | DelphiWorld | sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 lib32z1 |
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| 16:56.12 | centrx | DelphiWorld, the ia32libs packages is no longer used |
| 16:56.18 | centrx | DelphiWorld, multiarch is the way |
| 16:56.34 | DelphiWorld | centrx: sudo apt-get install libc6:i386 libncurses5:i386 libstdc++6:i386 lib32z1 fixed my issue |
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| 17:03.13 | JuanDaugherty | was nmtui |
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| 17:03.45 | markybob | JuanDaugherty, was that a question? |
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| 17:06.27 | pkkm | hi, for a typical moderately popular package, how much time does pass between an official release of a new version and the version being available in unstable? |
| 17:07.26 | markybob | pkkm, several beers and whatever else is going on |
| 17:08.10 | markybob | pkkm, real answer is it goes into experimental first. after a few days it goes into unstable. and a few beers |
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| 17:10.05 | pkkm | thanks markybob |
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| 17:17.59 | jhutchins | markybob: I thought not everything went into experimental, just stuff that was trying something new that might break. |
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| 17:19.39 | markybob | jhutchins, that's true, but i've seen stupid things like deluge in experimental. and i was the lead developer :P i don't know how they pick |
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| 17:21.23 | Stummi | I think thats a whole individual decission by the debian maintainer for the package |
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| 17:30.18 | c1b3r | Hi, everybody after my last aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade -y I've notice a an anomalous behavior |
| 17:30.46 | c1b3r | Every 2h with Cron I do a chkrootkit scan, and I sent it to my personal Email |
| 17:30.54 | Rudde | Anyone know any good/working socks5 proxy server with support for auth? |
| 17:31.09 | c1b3r | What I previously found is that after last update && upgrade |
| 17:31.29 | c1b3r | # Running chkrootkit (/usr/sbin/chkrootkit) to perform further checks... |
| 17:31.29 | c1b3r | --WARN-- [rootkit004w] Chkrootkit has detected a possible rootkit |
| 17:31.29 | c1b3r | +installation |
| 17:31.29 | c1b3r | Possible Linux/Ebury - Operation Windigo installetd |
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| 17:32.39 | droopy | How can I tell if a crontab job was ran? |
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| 17:39.13 | jhutchins | droopy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56683/where-is-the-cron-crontab-log |
| 17:39.29 | jhutchins | droopy: Better answer though is to do logging within the job. |
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| 17:40.38 | otyugh | heya. Is there a tool to get a summary of the changelogs on each package upgrading in apt-get ? |
| 17:41.02 | otyugh | would be quite handy |
| 17:41.08 | MrBar | someone try to uze zfs on debian 8 ? |
| 17:42.01 | MrBar | looks like boot up system complete broken |
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| 17:48.08 | AvatarA | otyugh, apt-listchanges? |
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| 17:56.33 | CutMeOwnThroat | I just rsynced what is supposed to become a rescue-clone (for the upgrade to jessie) of the system onto an external usb disk. How'd I make that bootable independently of the main disk |
| 17:57.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | chroot, edit grub.conf, run grub-install, then find out if my bios supports booting from usb? |
| 17:57.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah, guess !chrootgrub |
| 17:58.11 | AvatarA | I think I did the same after I copied a configured debootstrap and it worked |
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| 17:58.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | the factoid is missing the grub-install, though |
| 17:59.12 | CutMeOwnThroat | and the edit step :-/ |
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| 18:00.25 | AvatarA | just specify the --boot-directory when you grub-install on /dev/sdb or whatever it is for you |
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| 18:01.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah :) couldn't find anything to edit |
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| 18:01.44 | CutMeOwnThroat | but how will it find which disk to write the mbr to |
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| 18:01.59 | AvatarA | and edit your current grub.cfg to reflect the UUID changes and whatever else has changed |
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| 18:02.07 | AvatarA | from the usb I mean |
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| 18:02.50 | CutMeOwnThroat | in /etc/grub.d/10_linux ? |
| 18:03.12 | AvatarA | no, in /boot/grub |
| 18:03.13 | Twinkletoes | I've tried several times to install debian server (jessie) from a USB stick, to another USB stick, and each time afterwards it fails to find the device/partition (I can' t remember exactly now) even though I installed grub to the correct usb stick. Any ideas? |
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| 18:03.32 | CutMeOwnThroat | no... seems if I chroot into it, I don't need --boot-directory nor an uuid, as it's auto-detected? |
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| 18:03.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh, there |
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| 18:06.23 | droopy | How do I run xdebug with php 5.3.3? |
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| 18:08.54 | centrx | droopy, Try ##php |
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| 18:09.25 | droopy | I can't join that room |
| 18:09.33 | droopy | When I enter '/join ##php', there is no response |
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| 18:09.49 | bagbobilgins | perhaps you need to identify |
| 18:10.01 | jelly | ,v php5-xdebug |
| 18:10.02 | judd | Package: php5-xdebug on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.1.0-1; wheezy: 2.2.1-2; jessie: 2.2.5-1; sid: 2.3.3-1; stretch: 2.3.3-1 |
| 18:10.08 | jelly | ,v php5 |
| 18:10.09 | judd | Package: php5 on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3.1-7+squeeze27; wheezy: 5.4.44-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.45-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.45-0+deb7u1; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.9+dfsg-1; stretch: 5.6.12+dfsg-1; jessie-proposed- |
| 18:10.10 | judd | updates: 5.6.13+dfsg-0+deb8u1; jessie-security: 5.6.13+dfsg-0+deb8u1; sid: 5.6.13+dfsg-2 |
| 18:10.37 | jelly | droopy: are you using debian 6 (squeeze)? |
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| 18:10.56 | droopy | Yes |
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| 18:16.09 | CutMeOwnThroat | AvatarA, crossing-fingers-time, I guess |
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| 18:16.52 | AvatarA | I remember why I went the more manual route |
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| 18:17.25 | AvatarA | couldn't do the chroot thing as I wanted to boot iso from partition 1 |
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| 18:18.50 | netsrot | Hi, is there a way to use terminus font in xosd? I only get garbage chars. |
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| 18:20.03 | t3x | the problem with iceweasel and html5 video mp4 is solved with deb-multimedia packages... :) |
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| 18:24.27 | AvatarA | haha, how weird t3x came in just to say that and then he quit :D |
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| 18:25.13 | dpkg | We recommend against using deb-multimedia.org; these unofficial packages are known to cause many hard to debug problems. They are not in Debian either because the they are poor in quality or for legal reasons. See http://deb-multimedia.org/ or ask me about <dmm wheezy>, <dmm jessie>. See also <dmm list>, <dmm mirrors>, <dmm pinning>, <why not dmm>, <dmm remove>. |
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| 18:26.18 | TriJetScud | oops wrong channel |
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| 18:40.54 | Guest84229 | hi. im trying to clone an (encrypted) drive with dd. so far so good, but i cant get grub on my mbr to detect it. they have the same uuid. what do i need to do to cleanly add the new disk to grub ? |
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| 18:43.07 | otyugh | Guest84229: just change the uuid or use the label |
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| 18:43.27 | otyugh | depending on the filesystem the tools are different |
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| 18:45.34 | eyebrowns | superdumb question: what mean symbol "-" and how it named in following command: su - john |
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| 18:46.05 | greycat | It's probably derived from the same custom that makes a shell beginning with - a login shell. |
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| 18:46.11 | otyugh | eyebrowns: as long as I understand it, the "-" here is of no use |
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| 18:46.16 | greycat | Untrue,. |
| 18:46.18 | otyugh | here |
| 18:46.23 | otyugh | *here I meant |
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| 18:46.33 | greycat | It gives you a login shell as that user, instead of a regular shell. |
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| 18:46.50 | eyebrowns | so i cant surely remove "-"? |
| 18:46.54 | otyugh | ho, thanks that I did not known :O |
| 18:47.12 | greycat | If you remove the - you get a non-login shell, which will change the behavior. |
| 18:47.19 | otyugh | "su john" would log you as john too, but you need the root password |
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| 18:47.45 | otyugh | ... |
| 18:47.52 | otyugh | Or I misunderstood ;..; |
| 18:47.53 | otyugh | fack |
| 18:47.59 | Guest84229 | i tried changing the uuid as well, and did grub-update, to no avail. it still only does the original drive |
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| 18:48.05 | Guest84229 | update-grub |
| 18:48.18 | greycat | When /bin/login executes a user's shell, it puts "-" in front of the shell in the process name passed to the child. The child sees the - and acts as a login shell. This is incredibly ancient Unix history. |
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| 18:50.17 | eyebrowns | it will take time to understand |
| 18:50.24 | otyugh | Guest74304: what blkid says about the changed UUID ? |
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| 18:51.10 | eyebrowns | dumbquestion: second encounter: what mean symbols "--" and how they named in following command: startx -- |
| 18:51.20 | otyugh | eyebrowns: in praticie I only see that "su user" log as user asking for root paswd, while "su - user" ask for the user's password |
| 18:51.21 | greycat | In that context, it means "end of options". |
| 18:51.30 | greycat | otyugh: that's just wrong. |
| 18:51.41 | otyugh | greycat: I just did that :O |
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| 18:52.12 | eyebrowns | greycat, and what purpose of ending options? |
| 18:52.29 | greycat | eyebrowns: so that the stuff after the -- is interpreted in a different way |
| 18:53.23 | eyebrowns | greycat, hmmm so i cant use it everywhere? i needed so often to make programs not interpretate afterstring as options |
| 18:53.52 | eyebrowns | i meant flags |
| 18:54.00 | greycat | eyebrowns: In standard utilities like cp and rm, -- as end of options allows you to specify filenames beginning with -. For example, to remove a file named -x you can use rm -- -x |
| 18:54.16 | greycat | In startx, there are TWO sets of options on the same line, and -- separates them. Client options, server options. |
| 18:54.17 | eyebrowns | cool |
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| 18:55.10 | eyebrowns | i hope this superimportant information will be more accessible from somewhere |
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| 18:55.43 | greycat | If you forget, you can ask us again. |
| 18:55.53 | eyebrowns | thanks |
| 18:55.56 | greycat | -- as end of options is also specified in POSIX |
| 18:55.58 | xanthippe | Is it possible to answer debconf questions automatically? (installing gdm prompts a debconf question asking which should be default. I would like to answer it with gdm so it doesn't interrupt install) |
| 18:56.11 | xanthippe | I know it can be done with preseed but I'm trying to do it in an installed system |
| 18:56.28 | AvatarA | anyone have any idea why my journal log starts 8 days after machine was booted? |
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| 18:56.48 | nyef | AvatarA: Log rotation? |
| 18:56.54 | AvatarA | does journald has a default limit for the number of days it keeps logs? |
| 18:57.10 | AvatarA | I know it doesn't keep previous boots by default |
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| 18:57.43 | AvatarA | nyef, I mean from journalctl, I know log rotation applies to /var/log files |
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| 18:59.34 | droopy | Can someone tell me more about this command? |
| 18:59.39 | droopy | ssh -R 9000:localhost:9000 some_user_account@www.example.com |
| 18:59.57 | greycat | "man ssh". It sets up a reverse tunnel, or tries to. |
| 19:00.25 | droopy | Thanks greycat |
| 19:01.59 | AvatarA | if someone has a machine with uptime 30 days or more could he please check his journalctl? I want to see if this is normal behavior |
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| 19:03.02 | wget | Hi guys. Do you know in which Debian flavour Plasma 5 is available? Wheezy, testing, or sid (unstable). |
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| 19:04.38 | phy1729 | ,v plasma |
| 19:04.39 | judd | No package named 'plasma' was found in amd64. |
| 19:05.26 | otyugh | wget: only have 16 days under hand, not enought :p |
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| 19:08.53 | wget | otyugh: What do you means by that actuelly? |
| 19:09.13 | wget | phy1729: Plasma or actually thr package corresponding to plasma 5 (~=KDE 5) |
| 19:09.34 | wget | Don't know the exact name. I'm an Arch Linux user, but need debian for non tech savvy people. |
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| 19:09.54 | otyugh | (sorry wget was talking to another) |
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| 19:10.50 | wget | otyugh: Ok. no problem then ;-) |
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| 19:12.48 | wget | Does anyone know which KDE version is included in the KDE live cdd flavor here http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/ |
| 19:12.52 | wget | ? |
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| 19:13.22 | mtn | wget, http://packages.debian.org |
| 19:13.25 | MrBar | update-rc.d: warning: start and stop actions are no longer supported; falling back to defaults |
| 19:13.26 | greycat | If it's a live CD of jessie, I would imagine "whatever version of KDE is in jessie". |
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| 19:13.42 | MrBar | someone know why? start and stop actions are no longer supported ? |
| 19:13.48 | greycat | ,v kde |
| 19:13.49 | judd | Package: kde on amd64 -- squeeze: 5:66 |
| 19:13.52 | greycat | bah. |
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| 19:13.59 | greycat | ,v konsole |
| 19:14.00 | judd | Package: konsole on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-2; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-2; jessie: 4:4.14.2-1; stretch: 4:15.08.0-1; sid: 4:15.08.1-1 |
| 19:14.14 | dominik1 | Hey debian experts, I just got a new Lenovo thinkpad t450s and installed linux on it. |
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| 19:14.24 | dominik1 | everything is working awesome so far, except for my function keys |
| 19:14.31 | dominik1 | which I can't seem to get to work |
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| 19:14.39 | wget | great mtn . Thanks greycat ;-) |
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| 19:14.58 | dominik1 | I tried running xev and it says that F1 is mapped to XF86AudioMute as it should be |
| 19:14.59 | MrBar | dominik1, it good |
| 19:15.17 | dominik1 | but nonetheless these keys don't work :/ |
| 19:15.25 | WangDang | hey, if I change something in /etc/hosts.allow, do I have to restart inetd? |
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| 19:15.30 | dominik1 | does anyone have any idea on why that might be the case? |
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| 19:15.50 | greycat | are you... actually USING inetd? |
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| 19:16.15 | cdb23ax | hello a question about nfs server. is it possible that data is currupted during a file transfer to the client while network is heavy congested if nfs uses udp instead of tcp? |
| 19:16.15 | MrBar | dominik1, bad idea to install linux on craped proprital hardware |
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| 19:16.25 | WangDang | well... no... I just want to cover all my bases |
| 19:17.03 | greycat | You may have to restart whatever service's libwrapper definition you are changing, if it's a standalone service. |
| 19:17.12 | dominik1 | MrBar: :-/ |
| 19:17.44 | WangDang | the thing is ps lists the process at in.tftpd rather than just tftpd, which looks kinda inetd-ish to me |
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| 19:18.02 | dominik1 | any idea, why despite my mapping in xmodmap the FN keypresses don't trigger the special functions like muting audio, etc. |
| 19:18.08 | dominik1 | ? |
| 19:18.13 | WangDang | process as* |
| 19:18.19 | greycat | Look at its parent process. Is the parent some flavor of inetd? |
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| 19:19.13 | cdb23ax | iam asking because a file is transfered from the server to the nfs client and if you look with a texteditor at the file the new file has the content is there 3 times in one file |
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| 19:20.15 | cdb23ax | short the new file is three times bigger then the old one and the content its three times the old file |
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| 19:20.45 | greycat | cdb23ax: I've never heard of such a thing being caused by corruption at the NFS level. |
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| 19:20.58 | sb_9 | how to encrypt executable shell script ? |
| 19:21.02 | greycat | File system level, maybe. Application level, almost certainly. |
| 19:21.12 | greycat | sb_9: you don't. |
| 19:21.17 | otyugh | cdb23ax: I'm using a nfs server in local with heavy files and didn't remember to see that |
| 19:21.51 | cdb23ax | otyugh: well its only at a specific time |
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| 19:22.02 | AShell | is possible to remove juk without remove the rest of dependencies? |
| 19:22.12 | greycat | sb_9: if you're so ashamed of your code that you have to hide it from the users, then rewrite in a compiled language |
| 19:22.28 | cdb23ax | at the morning all works fine and at 12 o clock to 2 pm its faulty |
| 19:22.38 | sb_9 | greycat: oops; why? |
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| 19:23.48 | greycat | Because the commands have to be readable by the shell. And if they are readable by the shell, they are also readable by the user. |
| 19:23.53 | otyugh | sb_9: interpreted langages are interpreted langages, why do you want to hide it ? |
| 19:24.00 | WangDang | greycat: the parent process of in.tftpd is systemd, so I guess I'm not using inetd, right? |
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| 19:24.12 | sb_9 | greycat: sorry, it is for security. in my code i am calling api services with credentials. so, user's shouldn't see any credentials within the script |
| 19:24.39 | greycat | If you're asking because you are embeddding a password in the script, put the password in a separate file and chmod 600 it. That won't completely hide the password, but it's the best you can do as long as you require a plaintext password. |
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| 19:25.32 | sb_9 | greycat: that's not good way. we can use encrypt .sh files. |
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| 19:25.49 | greycat | If you choose not to believe me, that's your privilege. I can't force you to learn. |
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| 19:26.42 | otyugh | a user that uses credentials that he shouldn't see. Wut ? :p |
| 19:26.52 | aoisjfdoiwqfo | hi, after a recent update on sid the policy for suspedning changed and system prompts for password every time i want to suspend, how do i disable this behaviour? |
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| 19:27.17 | phale | How do I get rid of the "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required" warning? |
| 19:27.23 | phale | without autoremoving the software since I need it |
| 19:27.39 | tugrik | sb_9: can't you give users execute permissions on the script, but not read permissions? |
| 19:27.39 | otyugh | installing them explicitaly I guess |
| 19:27.45 | phale | alright |
| 19:27.48 | sb_9 | greycat: script will be placed in many client systems. so, owner of file will be someone. |
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| 19:28.08 | otyugh | tugrik: you can't |
| 19:28.32 | armin | shere's the point in deploying plaintext password files to multiple computers again? |
| 19:29.04 | wget | ,kde |
| 19:29.27 | armin | wget: Resolving ,kde... failed: nodename nor servname provided, or not known. |
| 19:29.27 | wget | ,v plasma-desktop |
| 19:29.28 | judd | Package: plasma-desktop on amd64 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-6; jessie: 4:4.11.13-2; sid: 4:5.4.1-1; stretch: 4:5.4.1-1 |
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| 19:29.42 | otyugh | wget: you can /msg judd |
| 19:29.47 | wget | Hum. It's i, testing that's great. |
| 19:29.53 | wget | otyugh: Ok nice. |
| 19:30.07 | tugrik | fair point otyugh - one day I'll get the hang of unix permissions ;) |
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| 19:30.42 | aoisjfdoiwqfo | how to change polkit rules for the system not to require password on suspend? |
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| 19:31.18 | greycat | sb_9: If you are going to rely on the users to be too stupid to read the password file, the best you can do is write the script so badly that nobody wants to read it. Take lessons from... oh, every single commercial software vendor ever. |
| 19:31.51 | otyugh | greycat: I love this answer |
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| 19:32.46 | otyugh | I still don't understand the security design of multiple users using the same credential being hardcoded in a script. |
| 19:33.54 | sb_9 | greycat: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/05/encrypt-bash-shell-script/ |
| 19:33.58 | greycat | It's "security through obscurity" at best. |
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| 19:34.28 | greycat | sb_9: So how does the script RUN? It has to be decrypted, yes? Automatically? Without the user phoning you and having you run over and type a secret password for it? |
| 19:35.03 | greycat | If the script can decrypt itself automatically, then the user can read it. |
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| 19:35.22 | greycat | If the script CANNOT decrypt itself, then it can't run. |
| 19:35.26 | sb_9 | greycat: it can. it won't prompts for any password while running script |
| 19:35.56 | aoisjfdoiwqfo | does anyone know what to do to update polkit policies? |
| 19:35.59 | greycat | Then there is nothing stopping the user from reading it except ignorance, or the unwillingness to put effort into it. |
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| 19:38.20 | aoisjfdoiwqfo | yeah, thanks anyway |
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| 19:39.19 | sb_9 | greycat: yes. smart person can generate the original shell script from encrypted binary. |
| 19:41.09 | otyugh | sb_9: I don't see the encryption if no password is required to read it |
| 19:41.47 | greycat | otyugh: it's just security through obscurity. Making it take 30 seconds of work to read the script stops 90% of users from bothering. I guess. |
| 19:42.35 | otyugh | it's more like, I hope it's not for real customers but for personal use |
| 19:42.50 | greycat | otyugh: You're so optimistic! It's so cute! |
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| 19:43.03 | otyugh | ^^' |
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| 19:51.06 | philipp64|work | hi. got a question about dpkg information. I noticed that the gedit-plugins .deb for wheezy contains /usr/lib/gedit/plugins/gpdefs.py and as a side-effect of it's installation, the resultant .pyc file gets installed as well. |
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| 19:51.45 | philipp64|work | I'm trying to traverse a system and figure out what files have been added/modified/deleted from a pristine install, but the dpkg information doesn't give you all of that. |
| 19:51.57 | greycat | debsums? |
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| 19:52.13 | philipp64|work | also files generated by .config or .postinst scripts aren't called out in .list or .md5sums files... |
| 19:52.20 | greycat | otherwise, mount a pristine install read-only somewhere and do an rsync -n? |
| 19:52.40 | greycat | (maybe too noisy) |
| 19:52.44 | philipp64|work | don't have the pristine install handy... |
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| 19:53.59 | philipp64|work | I notice that the RPM packaging has %ghost directives to include install-time or run-time synthesized files so they get included as part of the bill-of-materials of their relevant package. |
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| 19:55.27 | philipp64|work | debsums would tell me if a file was modified, sure... |
| 19:55.55 | philipp64|work | but if a package owns a directory, like /etc/libvirtd/ then I want to detect if any files have been added there as well, not just modified. |
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| 19:58.57 | blah- | !root |
| 19:58.57 | dpkg | It has been said that root is the administrative account - only use it when root power is needed. So no reading mail, compiling programs, or running applications as root. And don't even think about irc'ing as root, it increases the danger from exploits and trojans (such as bliss), or see, for example, the security advisory on BitchX http://www.debian.org/security/2003/dsa-306 |
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| 20:00.19 | jhutchins | philipp64|work: dpkg -L will show you what the package put there. |
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| 20:00.46 | greycat | jhutchins: he also wants to know about things created by the postinst script, and those won't show up |
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| 20:07.05 | BullHorn | hmm python on debian is 3.4.2 and claims to be latest but 3.5 has been out for months |
| 20:07.07 | BullHorn | whats the story here |
| 20:07.24 | greycat | !jessie freeze |
| 20:07.24 | dpkg | Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot! Debian 8.0 "Jessie" was frozen on 2014-11-05; no new versions of packages will enter this release and a period of intense bug fixing has begun. See http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html or ask me about <slushy>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot |
| 20:07.42 | WangDang | I'm trying to set up a tftpd-hpa server. The server's address is 192.168.192.1, the clients ip is 192.168.193.6 (netmask /19). The client times out from a lack of reply from the server. On the server, I see this in the logs "in.tftpd[3085]: connection refused from 192.168.192.1". I don't understand why it reports refusing a connection from it's own address. It should say that the connection was refused from 192.168.193.6 instead, shouldn't it? Any h |
| 20:07.50 | jhutchins | ,v python |
| 20:07.51 | judd | Package: python on amd64 -- squeeze: 2.6.6-3+squeeze7; wheezy: 2.7.3-4+deb7u1; stretch: 2.7.9-1; sid: 2.7.9-1; jessie: 2.7.9-1 |
| 20:08.03 | greycat | If you want software newer than November 2014, install it from backports or upstream source code. |
| 20:08.15 | greycat | ,v python3 |
| 20:08.16 | judd | Package: python3 on amd64 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; jessie: 3.4.2-2; sid: 3.4.3-4; stretch: 3.4.3-4; experimental: 3.4.3-5 |
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| 20:09.48 | jhutchins | Python's the one a lot of internals use, isn't it? |
| 20:10.17 | greycat | Perl and python are both heavily used by Debian tools. |
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| 20:10.53 | jhutchins | Which means messing with versions, especially if they lack backward compatibility, can really hose things up. |
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| 20:11.46 | netdemon | hi to all |
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| 20:14.43 | philipp64|work | greycat: running the script, my 7.8 system shows about 13K files that are either 'extras', 'orphans', 'modified'... none seem to be missing... here's what I've got: http://pastebin.com/FC2jHrn1 |
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| 20:23.53 | thenewone | Hi guys what is the alternative of wifi-menu in debian ? |
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| 20:26.00 | towo` | what is wifi-menu? |
| 20:26.50 | revealed | Hallo. Would you just please give a yes/no on this, please?: Does a debian installation enable an http server by default? |
| 20:27.19 | greycat | no |
| 20:27.22 | centrx | no way |
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| 20:27.28 | thenewone | no |
| 20:27.29 | revealed | thank you very much. |
| 20:27.33 | thenewone | welcome |
| 20:27.37 | thenewone | but answer this yes or no |
| 20:27.41 | thenewone | yes or not ? |
| 20:29.01 | babilen | revealed: Installation of what? |
| 20:29.30 | revealed | Just - i take a iso. (First time user). And run all through without any special options. |
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| 20:30.46 | revealed | The reason for my question is: A guy in a forum has a router. In this router he has an option to click on "hostnames" in LAN. A enabled http would open the site then. And he complains about that this would not happen with SUSE but debian would. So i was just curious. |
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| 20:31.51 | babilen | revealed: Well, you could install a webserver (or rather: the webserver task), but that is in no way the default. |
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| 20:32.03 | greycat | A "default" installation would install a desktop environment but not a web server as far as I know. |
| 20:32.11 | babilen | indeed |
| 20:32.20 | greycat | There are plenty of non-default things you can do during the installation. |
| 20:32.47 | MrDetonia | How can I find out what OpenGL extensions are available on my system? |
| 20:32.49 | revealed | Thank you for this info. Its solved. Much appereciated. |
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| 20:33.28 | revealed | Have a nice day. Cu. |
| 20:33.32 | babilen | o/ |
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| 20:34.38 | ctmjr | MrDetonia: glxinfo |
| 20:35.22 | s3a | i'm trying to install xserver-xorg-video-radeon:i386 along with xserver-xorg-video-radeon:amd64, but there's a problem.: http://pastebin.com/RNNee2t0 |
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| 20:35.30 | MrDetonia | ctmjr: ty |
| 20:35.37 | greycat | why would you want an i386 video driver? |
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| 20:36.08 | s3a | greycat, i'm using an 64-bit OS to run an 32-bit game |
| 20:36.11 | s3a | a* |
| 20:36.26 | greycat | But you don't use 32-bit *drivers* in the X server. |
| 20:36.44 | greycat | X is a network protocol. The 32-bit client app talks to the 64-bit X server. |
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| 20:37.11 | greycat | You might possibly (probably!) need 32-bit X client libraries, but not drivers. |
| 20:37.32 | zinx | technically a lot of the drivers do bypass X and speak directly, but yes, you do only need the OpenGL libraries, not the X server drivers |
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| 20:39.47 | babilen | games, getting users to do cruel things to their systems for a long time |
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| 20:42.24 | s3a | greycat, so i only need xserver-xorg-video-radeon:amd64? |
| 20:42.54 | greycat | right |
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| 20:43.25 | s3a | greycat, do i need 32 bit mesa? |
| 20:43.52 | greycat | probably, yes |
| 20:44.00 | s3a | greycat, ok, because i do |
| 20:44.04 | s3a | mesa 11 from experimental |
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| 20:48.00 | ctmjr | thinks if he wanted to play 32bit games he would just install steam and let it pull in all the 32bit stuff |
| 20:48.44 | s3a | ctmjr, i thought i had to do things a little more manually given that i got mesa 11 from experimental |
| 20:48.53 | s3a | i'm rebooting; i'll be back. |
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| 20:49.15 | greycat | I'm betting he doesn't even mean "I backported it" either. |
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| 20:55.12 | babilen | No, that wouldn't be cruel enough |
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| 21:11.31 | AvatarA | how can an upgrade start /usr/sbin/cupsd out of the blue when it doesn't even exist and it has never been installed on that server? |
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| 21:12.45 | AvatarA | curiosity will kill me on this one, I checked the time when that process started and at that exact time I did an aptitude upgrade |
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| 21:14.58 | MrBar | someone know how to debug insserv ? |
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| 21:16.14 | g00se | AvatarA: Check the aptitude log? |
| 21:16.28 | AvatarA | I did |
| 21:16.32 | AvatarA | I checked everything |
| 21:16.45 | AvatarA | I rgrepped and zgrepped everything |
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| 21:17.37 | g00se | So you never had cups before and now you have? |
| 21:17.46 | denysonique | What does aptitude hold actually do |
| 21:17.49 | denysonique | Does it create a pin file? |
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| 21:18.25 | AvatarA | no never had it and I don't have it now either |
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| 21:18.38 | AvatarA | process command line was /usr/sbin/cupsd but there is no file at that location |
| 21:19.04 | AvatarA | going to check out debian's site, see if some other weird package has cupsd binary but I don't think so |
| 21:19.22 | AvatarA | this is what was upgraded |
| 21:19.24 | AvatarA | http://pastebin.com/5itzCgfh |
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| 21:19.39 | g00se | Well maybe it was just checking for cups |
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| 21:20.42 | wh0ami | hi guys |
| 21:20.49 | AvatarA | yeah so as I knew, only cups-daemon has the /usr/sbin/cupsd and that was never installed |
| 21:21.00 | wh0ami | what's the worst thing that can happen if i update from debian 7 wheezy to the lastest? |
| 21:21.11 | AvatarA | the cupsd was running and listening on ipv4 and ipv6 ports |
| 21:21.14 | AvatarA | plus some udp port |
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| 21:21.26 | greycat | Worst thing that has happened to me on a jessie upgrade is shutdown/reboot failing to complete. |
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| 21:21.58 | g00se | wh0ami: Complete bork. That happened to me about three days ago. Reinstalled wheezy |
| 21:22.31 | greycat | Second worst thing was having Apache installed beforehand and expecting it to work after the upgrade. :-/ |
| 21:22.50 | greycat | You should expect apache to be totally broken immediately after the upgrade. You'll have to rewrite crap for a while. |
| 21:23.07 | g00se | Don't do it without full backup unless you don't mind |
| 21:23.31 | greycat | There's still no fix for the shutdown bug. I have to walk down to the server room any time I want to reboot that computer. |
| 21:24.05 | g00se | It has to be said i used a pin to keep out systemd, which is probably different to your scenario. Full back - still |
| 21:24.17 | greycat | Very different, yes. |
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| 21:26.04 | wh0ami | thx g00se greycat |
| 21:27.30 | jhutchins | AvatarA: Either cupsd was installed and was running, or it wasn't installed and wasn't running. You can remove a binary and leave it running, but if you un-install a package it'll stop the daemon first. |
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| 21:28.17 | AvatarA | I checked all the apt logs dpkg, aptitude |
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| 21:28.30 | AvatarA | and cups-daemon was never touched |
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| 21:29.13 | AvatarA | I have a theory anyway but I can't quite check it out |
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| 21:34.33 | jhutchins | AvatarA: If what you described actually happened, I don't think I would trust the system at all. Format and re-install. |
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| 21:43.06 | AvatarA | I think it's linked to some systemd containers |
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| 21:44.15 | AvatarA | and for some reason maybe cupsd was in one container and for some reason maybe cupsd got out of that namespace |
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| 21:44.41 | jhutchins | AvatarA: Well, if it's in a container, it's still on the system. |
| 21:44.55 | AvatarA | and when the upgrade happened, dbus/systemd just restarted that leaked process |
| 21:45.07 | AvatarA | so new start time was changed to the restart time |
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| 21:46.12 | AvatarA | just some traschan type of server I keep on amazon, the free tier thing |
| 21:46.26 | AvatarA | which actually convinced me I don't like amazon :) |
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| 21:58.44 | wget | Back. What about kernels updates on Debian. Is the last version kept as Ubuntu? Does the user need to clean old kernels and bootloaders entries after some time? |
| 21:59.02 | wget | As an Arch Linux guy. I'm quite lost getting back to Debian. |
| 22:00.16 | markybob | ,v kernel |
| 22:00.17 | judd | No package named 'kernel' was found in amd64. |
| 22:00.31 | markybob | ,v kernels |
| 22:00.33 | judd | No package named 'kernels' was found in amd64. |
| 22:00.38 | markybob | damnit. what is that factoid |
| 22:00.50 | AvatarA | bootloader get removed when you remove kernel packages |
| 22:00.56 | AvatarA | bootloader entries* |
| 22:01.07 | wget | ,v linux |
| 22:01.09 | judd | No package named 'linux' was found in amd64. |
| 22:01.34 | markybob | wget, anyway, yes, you can backport the latest kernels. it's easy |
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| 22:02.09 | wget | markybob: I know this is easy. But the PC I'm building is dedicated to non tech savvy people. Otherwise I would have installed Arch ;-) |
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| 22:03.34 | tobis | Hi |
| 22:03.41 | tobis | any Keepalived users here ? |
| 22:03.46 | wget | ,v linux-image |
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| 22:04.25 | judd | No package named 'linux-image' was found in amd64. |
| 22:04.35 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 22:04.44 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 4.2.0-trunk-686-pae (4.2-1~exp1); sid: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); stretch: 4.1.0-2-686-pae (4.1.6-1); jessie-backports: 4.1.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae (4.1.6-1~bpo8+1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u3~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.68-1+deb7u4) |
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| 22:05.55 | wget | ok. If i understand correctly old versions seems not to be kept, as arch thus |
| 22:06.04 | jhutchins | wget: Minor version updates (the only ones stable gets by default) replace instead of adding. |
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| 22:06.20 | jhutchins | wget: Major versions, like installs from backports, will add. |
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| 22:11.37 | wget | jhutchins: and if I'm in the testing flavour, even major kernels like 4.1 to 4.2 will be installed alongside? |
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| 22:12.16 | AvatarA | but why would you go testing if it's for non tech savvy? |
| 22:12.19 | markybob | wget, testing has 4.1 |
| 22:12.29 | markybob | AvatarA, has a point |
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| 22:13.18 | AvatarA | I couldn't play mp4 for almost a month on testing |
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| 22:33.40 | jimbo1qaz | can I download deb-src, merge the debian patches with development/git changes, and build an uninstallable deb? |
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| 22:33.54 | jimbo1qaz | build a deb handled by dpkg and can be uninstalled? |
| 22:34.14 | dontknow | can i install full debian system inside a folder and by using its installer? it is not like chroot |
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| 22:35.13 | markybob | jimbo1qaz, uninstallable deb? what is that? |
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| 22:35.29 | AvatarA | I think he means something he can uninstall with apt-get |
| 22:36.05 | jimbo1qaz | rather than "make install" |
| 22:36.08 | markybob | jimbo1qaz, dpkg-buildpackage -b -tc -uc -rfakeroot would probably do the trick |
| 22:36.38 | AvatarA | it's good that you avoid make install |
| 22:36.40 | jimbo1qaz | dpkg-buildpackage, does it run on deb-src, or directly from git clone upstream? |
| 22:36.57 | markybob | jimbo1qaz, assuming you've gotten the build-dep |
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| 22:37.30 | jimbo1qaz | markybob which one? |
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| 22:38.02 | markybob | jimbo1qaz, which one what? |
| 22:38.21 | jimbo1qaz | does dpkg-buildpackage run on deb-src, or does it run directly from checking out the upstream package? |
| 22:40.32 | markybob | jimbo1qaz, you run it inside a package that's already downloaded, already has a proper debian folder and is configured to be made into a deb |
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| 22:41.00 | jimbo1qaz | and if I want to install upstream git to fix a bug in a release debian package, what can I do? |
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| 22:41.08 | markybob | jimbo1qaz, yes |
| 22:41.25 | markybob | jimbo1qaz, umm...you just patch it. then run the build command i showed you |
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| 22:42.39 | jimbo1qaz | how do I patch it? |
| 22:43.01 | jimbo1qaz | do I have to compare the upstream release with upstream git, then duplicate the changes in deb-src tree? |
| 22:43.03 | markybob | i'm not gonna hold your hand that much. |
| 22:43.07 | markybob | google |
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| 22:43.39 | jimbo1qaz | well, that's the only part I don't know. |
| 22:43.45 | jimbo1qaz | and I didn't have much luck googling in the past |
| 22:43.55 | AvatarA | wish gnome would be so easy to build and replace on the system |
| 22:44.40 | jimbo1qaz | this? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb |
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| 22:50.08 | Riastradh | I made a package for software versioned 0.1rc6. Now it's ready to be 0.1. What version do I put on the package? It appears that 0.1 < 0.1rc6 for reasons unfathomable to me. |
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| 22:52.32 | babilen | Riastradh: That is why you use 0.1~rc1 (~ sorts lower) |
| 22:52.39 | Riastradh | OK, thanks. |
| 22:52.42 | babilen | + is typically used if you want something to sort higher |
| 22:53.02 | jimbo1qaz | how does the ordering work? |
| 22:53.17 | jimbo1qaz | does it compare each numerical portion after splitting by periods? |
| 22:53.22 | babilen | (~ "working up to", + "after the aforementioned version, but before anything that will be released afterwards") |
| 22:54.07 | babilen | I'd recommend reading "man 5 deb-version" |
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| 23:19.45 | zach_ | hey, getting a "yara" error, unknown module: "hash" |
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| 23:28.49 | Umeaboy | Hi! |
| 23:28.53 | Ooze | I need oauth2 for 8.2 |
| 23:28.53 | Ooze | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=python-oauth2 |
| 23:28.58 | Ooze | That's all I find |
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| 23:29.06 | Ooze | Not python-oauth2client |
| 23:29.14 | Ooze | Just python-oauth2 on Jessie 8.2 |
| 23:29.20 | Umeaboy | The old program called distromatch that the user enrico made, where can I find the source code for it? |
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| 23:29.27 | Umeaboy | None of the git links work. |
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| 23:31.51 | ironpillow | quick question: I installed calamaris (apt-get install) but this is not the latest version. a critical bug was fixed in the latest version. How do I get it via apt-get ? |
| 23:32.03 | ironpillow | using debian jessie |
| 23:32.36 | riowarren | apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:33.03 | riowarren | ironpillow: you sure the bug is even an issue for you? |
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| 23:33.53 | ironpillow | riowarren: yep. it is reported as âservertiy: seriousâ on debian bug report logs |
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| 23:34.23 | ironpillow | not just that. itâs not working on my system. |
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| 23:41.39 | FunkyBob | joy... google-chrome now fails with a bus error on startup |
| 23:41.55 | FunkyBob | dmesg shows a segfault in libglib |
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