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| 00:41.47 | innmalint | i've found about a million different ways to use firefox instead of iceweasel. is there a good practice to this? |
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| 00:44.37 | ryouma | why? |
| 00:44.43 | Xenguy | I tried /joining the #vim channel, but found myself the only one there |
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| 00:44.56 | abrotman | Xenguy: ##vim ? |
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| 00:45.07 | abrotman | nope, it's #vim |
| 00:45.08 | Xenguy | Thank you (and long time no see) |
| 00:45.13 | Xenguy | aha |
| 00:45.15 | nebg | hello everyone... why if i do "apt-get purge pgmName" and then "apt-get install pgmName" it is not the same thing as doing "dpkg-reconfigure pgmName" what does dpkg-reconfigure more then a common reinstallation ? (i'm sure there are differences, since i solved problems i had by running dpkg-reconfigure instead of a simple reinstallation process) |
| 00:45.51 | Xenguy | abrotman: problem solved, I forgot the hash =) |
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| 00:46.14 | Xenguy | All hail abrotman ;-) |
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| 00:47.11 | Xenguy | .oO(Never mind the universe, *I'm* in mercury retrograde!) |
| 00:47.32 | somiaj | nebg: when you install or reconfigure a package debconf gives the same options. But there is debconf priority setting which determines what questions are asked during an install, while by default dpkg-reconfigure shows all priority questions. |
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| 00:48.34 | nebg | somiaj, thanks... what is debconf ? |
| 00:48.48 | nebg | and what settings i can change ? |
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| 00:49.16 | Xenguy | 20:49 -!- #vim Cannot send to channel |
| 00:49.24 | Xenguy | Weird, I have no voice? |
| 00:49.28 | somiaj | nebg: debconf is the tool dpkg-reconfigure is using. It is what is used to configure packages based on user choices. |
| 00:49.41 | nebg | Xenguy, you have to register your nick on freenode before writing to vim |
| 00:49.45 | somiaj | nebg: I think dpkg-reconfigure debconf should allow you to select the lowest priority shown when isntalling packges. |
| 00:49.57 | Xenguy | Thank you nebg |
| 00:50.01 | Xenguy | uh boy |
| 00:50.06 | nebg | Xenguy, yw |
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| 00:53.54 | nebg | somiaj, so with apt-get install only few questions are asked... while with dpkg-reconfigure all questions are asked right ? |
| 00:54.56 | somiaj | nebg: depends on how the system is configured. Each question has a priority and by default installing a package will only show priorities higher than the debconf setting while dpkg-reconfigure will show them all (note you can change this setting or tell dpkg-reconfigure to only show questions of a certain priority or igher) |
| 00:56.04 | nebg | somiaj, ok thank you very much ! |
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| 01:04.40 | FI_OpwK | so, no #debian-live channel? |
| 01:06.04 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: wrong network, irc.debian.org points to irc.oftc.net which is where all the debian channels are. This one is still around from when debian was on freenode. |
| 01:07.00 | FI_OpwK | somiaj: I figured that. |
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| 01:17.01 | acacar | Hello. |
| 01:17.07 | acacar | Ive been trying to make a usb in which i have a liveusb and a partition readable by Windows. It seems that it only boots if the OS partition is fat 32 and not ext4 or ext2. How can i make it boot in ext4 so that when I connect it to a virus-infected pc it doesnt mess up my liveusb partition? |
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| 01:18.50 | somiaj | acacar: you may have to soder your thumbdrive. |
| 01:19.16 | iamrohit7 | my laptop wont clock at the maximum frequency. i cant set the governor with cpufreq-set. what should i do? |
| 01:19.26 | somiaj | acacar: usb drives have a bit flag on them that says they are removable. As soon as windows sees this flag it will ignore any partition except the first. And also you should be asking this in ##windows |
| 01:19.58 | somiaj | iamrohit7: are you sure? Lots of time when looking at cat /etc/cpuinfo you are seeing the idel freq, and as soon as the cpu is not idel it jumps up to the full clock speed. |
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| 01:20.33 | acacar | somiaj: The liveusb is a GNU/Linux one but i want a partition to be readable by Windows. |
| 01:20.43 | iamrohit7 | somiaj: i am using cpufreq-info |
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| 01:21.14 | acacar | Since the Usb drive is 8gb which is too much for a lice usb |
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| 01:22.16 | somiaj | acacar: as I said, this is a ##windows question. Ask them. I also told you that unles you soder/modify the bit that says your device is a thumbdrive, windows will not see any partition except the first. |
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| 01:22.57 | somiaj | acacar: I use to use the debian live images and then partion the rest of the drive so I could use the space. Windows did not and will not see the second partition. |
| 01:23.16 | iamrohit7 | somiaj: my max frequency is 1.8GHz and the current frequency is 800MHz. So the difference is notable. This is happening since i installed debian jessie from scratch. |
| 01:23.33 | acacar | somiaj: What are you reffering to as the second partition? |
| 01:23.37 | bcx | How can I make update-{initramfs,grub} re-mount rw/ro, to keep my boot partition read-only most of the time ? |
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| 01:24.38 | somiaj | iamrohit7: again I doubt that is a problem. most modern cpus will idel at 800MHz, but as soon as you ask them to do work they jump to their max frequence. I'm not familar with the tool you are using, I'm just saying what I have experienced. |
| 01:24.55 | somiaj | acacar: a drive can have multiple partitions. Again ask ##windows about how their operating system works. |
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| 01:26.33 | acacar | somiaj: I knwo the drive can have multiple partitions. But i cant see why my usb cant boot if i have the liveusb (GNU/Linux) partition on an ext4. and the other one a fat32. |
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| 01:27.36 | somiaj | acacar: because you keep asking here. In a linux os you can have as many partitions as you awnt on a drive adn they are all readable. |
| 01:28.31 | somiaj | acacar: if you care why windows won't see more than one partition on a portable device go ask ##windows. Again not all thumbdrives have this limitation. And you can actually remove the hardware bit that tells windows it is a thumbdrive and see the other patitions. But if you care about windows being able to see the second partition, go ask ##windows as we don't support windows here. |
| 01:28.59 | acacar | somiaj: Yes but i cant boot it if its not in fat32, thats why its weird. However if i use the whole drive as a ext4 it does boot. |
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| 01:29.53 | acacar | somiaj: I dont think youre understanding my question... I dont want windows to read my ext OS partition, i know it cant. |
| 01:30.05 | FI_OpwK | acacar: what software did you use to create the usb partition? |
| 01:30.10 | somiaj | acacar: I never said that. I said it can't read the second partition. |
| 01:30.36 | acacar | FI_OpwK: Unetbootin |
| 01:30.37 | somiaj | this is a 'feature' of windows. |
| 01:30.50 | somiaj | unetbootin will sometimes fail at making debian iso's into nice bootable things |
| 01:31.03 | acacar | somiaj: Please specify what you mean by second partition. |
| 01:31.04 | FI_OpwK | pretty much. |
| 01:31.32 | somiaj | acacar: cp debian.iso /dev/sdX where /dev/sdX is the thumb drive. Then use a partition tool, put a second partition on it and put any file system you want on that partition. Don't expect windows to read it |
| 01:31.45 | somiaj | acacar: I mean if you have a patition, there is the first sda1, the second sda2, the third sda3 and so on. |
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| 01:32.13 | somiaj | acacar: if you have multiple parittions you label them. On certain removable drives windows will not aknoledge any partition except the first exists. But this is off topic here as I keep saying. |
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| 01:33.41 | acacar | somiaj: No... The problem is the live usb wont BOOT if its not in fat32. Thats what i dont understand. |
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| 01:34.00 | acacar | somiaj: The fat32 IS readable by windows. |
| 01:34.20 | FI_OpwK | thats common knowledge |
| 01:34.36 | acacar | Dont understand why I cant boot from the ext4 partition even if it has the boot flag. |
| 01:34.56 | somiaj | acacar: what do you mean by live usb? Do you not mean a debian live usb image? |
| 01:35.08 | acacar | somiaj: Yes. |
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| 01:35.21 | FI_OpwK | live-build ? |
| 01:35.33 | somiaj | acacar: so what do you mean? If you don't mean a debian live usb image I am unsure what you mean? |
| 01:35.48 | acacar | somiaj: I said yes. |
| 01:36.32 | acacar | somiaj: Its a liveusb in an ext4 partition and i have another partition that is fat32. However i cant boot it if its like this. |
| 01:36.40 | somiaj | debian live usbimages are nto put on fat32 filesystems. debian live usb images are put on the thumbdrive and create their own partition table and squashfs filesystem. |
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| 01:37.10 | somiaj | acacar: don't use unetbootin, just cp the image onto the drive and create the second partition with normal tools. |
| 01:37.22 | somiaj | unetbootin will sometimes do strange things to debian's images and make them not work. |
| 01:37.55 | FI_OpwK | acacar: live-build or live-boot? which is the issue? |
| 01:37.59 | somiaj | and it is not a liveusb in an ext4 parition. It is a live usb image which uses I belive a squashfs filesystem. |
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| 01:40.06 | somiaj | acacar: and I never said that fat32 isn't readable by windows. I said that on many thumbdrives windows will not read any partition but the first, so even if you made a second fat32 partition, windows may not be able to read it. |
| 01:40.11 | acacar | somiaj: Ok, im doing a cp now. |
| 01:40.29 | somiaj | acacar: but I will help you create your thumbdrive, so first 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdX' |
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| 01:41.05 | acacar | somiaj: Ok, i am doing a cp to /dev/sdc1 which is my ext4 partition. |
| 01:41.20 | dvs | acacar: That's wrong |
| 01:41.36 | acacar | Why? |
| 01:41.43 | acacar | dvs: Why is it wrong? |
| 01:42.02 | dvs | acacar: You're trying to copy a .iso to a USB drive? |
| 01:42.02 | somiaj | acacar: that is not what I said. Read what I said. I said /dev/sdX not /dev/sdX1 |
| 01:42.33 | somiaj | acacar: debian isos contain all the boot and partition info on them, you need to copy it to the full device (not the partion) which will destory all data on the device |
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| 01:43.06 | acacar | somiaj: But if i do that i wont be able to have a partition that is for my files, my usb drive has too much data storage so i cant use it as a liveusb only |
| 01:43.09 | somiaj | acacar: this is part why tools like unetbootin mess up debian's images. They are already full images with partition tables and bootable info. |
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| 01:43.21 | somiaj | acacar: trust me. you will be able to. |
| 01:43.34 | acacar | somiaj: How? |
| 01:43.44 | somiaj | acacar: it will leave all the space not used as a 'unused space', you then make a parititon from it and put any file system you want on it. |
| 01:43.45 | acacar | somiaj: Will I make a partition later? |
| 01:43.54 | klem_ | Is there a functional difference between VNC4Server and TightVNC? |
| 01:43.55 | acacar | somiaj: OOOOh. |
| 01:43.59 | iamrohit7 | acacar: i guess so. |
| 01:44.25 | somiaj | acacar: note I'm asusming you have a jessie image, I haven't done this for a while but I belive it works. I think I last did this with squeeze |
| 01:45.16 | iamrohit7 | acacar: if you have windows, LiLi works fine for the live usb images. |
| 01:45.27 | acacar | Im running mint now. |
| 01:45.54 | FI_OpwK | so, what's the image? |
| 01:45.59 | acacar | Ok, so after the cp finishes, do i use gparted to make a fat32 partition with the free space? |
| 01:46.14 | somiaj | acacar: correct |
| 01:46.27 | somiaj | acacar: and as I said, don't be surprised if windows doesn't see it (this is a feature fo windows) |
| 01:46.58 | somiaj | acacar: and I'm assuming you are doing this with a debian image (not a mint one) |
| 01:47.49 | acacar | somiaj: Yes, debian jessie image. |
| 01:48.03 | acacar | However cp didnt work, doing with dd now. |
| 01:48.04 | Xenguy | Great to be back folks |
| 01:48.34 | FI_OpwK | Xenguy: you ever test malware? |
| 01:48.40 | somiaj | acacar: what was the exact command you typed? |
| 01:48.47 | Xenguy | No, I don't seek out malware |
| 01:48.51 | somiaj | acacar: cp and dd do basically the same thing, so cp should work jsut fine. |
| 01:49.08 | FI_OpwK | use qubes? |
| 01:49.51 | Xenguy | why do you ask? |
| 01:49.52 | acacar | sudo cp /media/mint/Files/debian-8.2.iso /dev/sdc |
| 01:50.07 | FI_OpwK | because of Xen |
| 01:50.13 | Xenguy | aha |
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| 01:50.26 | Xenguy | Bit of a legacy thing... |
| 01:50.34 | FI_OpwK | ah, ok. |
| 01:50.36 | Xenguy | I chose the name, and then the name found me |
| 01:50.46 | Xenguy | The honest truth |
| 01:50.53 | acacar | somiaj: Is that right? |
| 01:50.59 | FI_OpwK | I dig it. |
| 01:51.45 | somiaj | acacar: provided /dev/sdc is your thumbdrive, that is correct |
| 01:51.54 | FI_OpwK | I chose my nick from a key. ironically, it has a significant meaning. |
| 01:52.02 | acacar | somiaj: It is. |
| 01:52.11 | Xenguy | Coincidentally :) |
| 01:52.14 | somiaj | acacar: so what didnh't work when cp was done that you were expecting? |
| 01:52.23 | FI_OpwK | even better... |
| 01:52.31 | acacar | somiaj: It didnt boot. |
| 01:52.33 | somiaj | acacar: and this is which debian live image? I awnt to just test for myself |
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| 01:52.51 | acacar | somiaj: Its the xfce one |
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| 01:53.33 | FI_OpwK | xfce is DE |
| 01:53.38 | somiaj | acacar: and you got the iso-hybrid image (I don't think it matters if it is nonfree or not) |
| 01:53.51 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: the debian live images are split up into desktops, so you can get one for any DE you prefer |
| 01:54.04 | FI_OpwK | oh cool. |
| 01:54.09 | acacar | somiaj: Yes. |
| 01:54.12 | somiaj | acacar: did the machine you try to boot it from have legacy boot enabled? |
| 01:54.23 | somiaj | acacar: the live images do not support efi boot last I checked. |
| 01:54.45 | texasmade | I would just do a full install to the usb drive |
| 01:54.52 | FI_OpwK | wait, I knew that...I thought the question was about which debian release...nvm |
| 01:55.02 | acacar | This machine does not have efi nor uefi |
| 01:55.28 | somiaj | texasmade: usb can be slow, live image + persistance is what I suggest (though unsure if this is still true with usb3 devices) |
| 01:55.38 | texasmade | [6~[6~ |
| 01:55.58 | somiaj | acacar: not sure what the issue is then. Only thing I can suggest is check the checksum of the downlaod. |
| 01:56.17 | FI_OpwK | atm, im building a custom image...haven't decided on which DE yet. might use xfce since i've tried kde & gnome already. |
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| 01:56.33 | acacar | somiaj: What do you mean by live-usb+persistance |
| 01:56.41 | texasmade | True, they can be a bit slow, but I haven't noticed much of a difference depending on what hs uses will be for |
| 01:56.51 | somiaj | acacar: http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html |
| 01:57.10 | texasmade | then again I don't use a DE |
| 01:57.12 | somiaj | meaning with proper configuration you can make modifications to the live system and have them remebered next time. |
| 01:57.39 | FI_OpwK | http://live.debian.net/manual/4.x/html/live-manual.en.html#687 -another. |
| 01:58.04 | somiaj | ahh yea, looks like the manual I always get from google is a bit old |
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| 01:58.24 | acacar | Ok, ill check them out. Thanks, |
| 01:59.30 | acacar | somiaj: Mmmmm. Seems like dd worked, it boots. I guess cp isnt the same then... It also took longer with dd. |
| 01:59.34 | somiaj | acacar: I'm downloading a live image to make sure what I said works. I'm unsure why it isn't booting for you. |
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| 01:59.54 | acacar | somiaj: Thanks. |
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| 02:00.09 | somiaj | acacar: no it is the same. It could be just something werid happened when you did it. But eitehr way you now have the limve image and you can now use gpartd to put more partitions on the devices if needed |
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| 02:01.01 | acacar | somiaj: I cant. It says No partition table found on device /dev/sdc |
| 02:01.07 | acacar | However it does boot. |
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| 02:02.10 | somiaj | acacar: let me test. I haven't done this since squeeze and I recall they had both hybrid and usbhdd images and it had to be the usbhdd image, but I also recall this not mattering anymore. |
| 02:02.11 | FI_OpwK | i know one thing, this live-build is taking a nice while to finish. |
| 02:02.41 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: I need to actually do that. I awnted to make a fvwm live image with full recovery tools, but never got around to it. |
| 02:03.08 | acacar | WHen i access my usb drive in gparted it says: The backup GPT table is not at the end of the disk, as it should be. This might mean that another operating system believes the disk is smaller. Fix, by moving the backup to the end (and removing the old backup)? |
| 02:03.23 | FI_OpwK | somaij: yeah, i put this off for a while too. for some reason..i wasn't ready. |
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| 02:03.41 | FI_OpwK | just pushing myself along the learning spectrum... |
| 02:03.46 | acacar | somiaj: What would be the problem? |
| 02:03.54 | FI_OpwK | *sudo ex-maqueda* |
| 02:04.00 | somiaj | acacar: hmm, wonder if the jessie images now support efi. Wait until my image finishes downloading see if I can figure it out. |
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| 02:04.22 | somiaj | acacar: it could be it is not possible without lots of work with the live imges now. As I said I haven't done this since squeeze and I think wheezy. |
| 02:04.39 | acacar | somiaj: Im creatinf a partition table just in case and then going to dd again. |
| 02:05.45 | somiaj | acacar: the problem is the way debian isos are made, they are already bootable and contain a partition table, so as you ran into it is very finiky. I do recall this being possible but I am going to test it too. |
| 02:06.48 | acacar | Ok. |
| 02:06.52 | FI_OpwK | I would follow along too but my monster wont read the usbs i own. |
| 02:07.07 | FI_OpwK | like...seriously...none of them! |
| 02:07.12 | FI_OpwK | what tha deb! |
| 02:07.58 | acacar | lol |
| 02:09.28 | somiaj | acacar: maybe I won't be able to test, can't seem to find my thumbdrive |
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| 02:12.30 | acacar | somiaj: Im in the middle of the dd but after i finnish that. Is there another way to make a partition from the free space available using something else that is not gparted? |
| 02:13.28 | somiaj | acacar: if the image has a fancy paritiotn table maybe not. I am testing right now as I have not tried this with any jessie images |
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| 02:19.40 | somiaj | acacar: I just used cfdisk and it worked fine for me. I can partition the rest of my drive, you just have to do this after you copy the image to it. |
| 02:20.07 | FI_OpwK | just wondering, in relation to release in debian...if jessie is stable..what is sana? |
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| 02:20.12 | somiaj | unsure why gparted didn't work, as I thought it supported both mbr and gpt partition tables, but cfdisk is what I have always used. |
| 02:20.25 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: what doy ou mean by sana? |
| 02:20.45 | FI_OpwK | debian sana |
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| 02:21.00 | FI_OpwK | would the packages be from jessie? |
| 02:21.15 | FI_OpwK | im running kali... |
| 02:21.18 | somiaj | I don't reconize a release by that name, where are you seeing this? |
| 02:21.37 | somiaj | so is this something that is based off debian and not debian itself? |
| 02:21.42 | FI_OpwK | ok..so it's a not debian specific...but supported. |
| 02:21.56 | FI_OpwK | right |
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| 02:23.27 | FI_OpwK | according to the rtfm, its a rolling release. |
| 02:23.29 | ctmjr | somiaj: kali-linux is the new backtrack |
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| 02:23.56 | somiaj | ctmjr: I reconize kali now, but sana is something I did not. |
| 02:24.02 | FI_OpwK | so, what's that...? just what it says..? |
| 02:24.20 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: is this the new/old name of the idea called debian-cut that never really did get much traction? |
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| 02:24.47 | somiaj | i.e. debian threw around the idea of making a rolling release, but never did. Debian still just has its stable release, and then the testing/unstable development releases |
| 02:24.57 | FI_OpwK | heard of debian-next...but not debian-cut |
| 02:25.18 | FI_OpwK | ah, ok. |
| 02:25.45 | FI_OpwK | I guess they did it...or some group kept the idea alive... |
| 02:25.47 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: about the time of the release there was talk about taking an image of testing, giving it a quick turn around and releasing it as a 'rooling release' that are cuts from testing every month or so. But it never got much trackion |
| 02:26.13 | FI_OpwK | hm.. |
| 02:26.21 | somiaj | well that was back during wheezy release. It was meant to try to be a bit more stable and predictable than testing, but at the same time keeping the regular updates. |
| 02:26.54 | FI_OpwK | so, if I had to strictly stick with debian release categories, would I classify it as testing? |
| 02:27.03 | FI_OpwK | since...jessie is stable |
| 02:27.44 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: sounds like what you are talking about is 'based off of debian testing', but is still not debian or supported here. |
| 02:28.51 | acacar | somiaj: Were you able to partition the liveusb? |
| 02:29.04 | somiaj | acacar: yup, I used cfdisk |
| 02:29.18 | somiaj | acacar: worked just like I expected. |
| 02:29.41 | acacar | somiaj: In my case it says |
| 02:29.45 | acacar | FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive |
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| 02:30.04 | acacar | when i type cfdisk /dev/sdc |
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| 02:30.34 | acacar | somiaj: What could have gone wrong? |
| 02:30.35 | somiaj | acacar: step 1) cp debian.iso /dev/sdc -- step 2) cfdisk /dev/sdc -- It worked. Sounds like your parititon table is messed up and I'm not sure why. |
| 02:30.56 | somiaj | acacar: unsure, y ou also had cp fail when it should have worked. Could your hardware be damaged. |
| 02:31.23 | acacar | somiaj: Doing a dd now because thats what im accostumed too. |
| 02:31.36 | woh3 | hi all, I am currently using debian-live with persistence, and it works great, but I have two questions, over half my usb stick is in an ext4 partition I labeled as home-rw, and on debian wiki it says that should automount on /home, but it is not, and also how to change system time in live version, ntpdate douesnt seem to work |
| 02:31.44 | acacar | somiaj: Maybe i get that error because i opened gparted and it tries to fix it. |
| 02:31.55 | somiaj | woh3: are you booting with the persistance=1 flag? |
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| 02:32.26 | woh3 | its one of the boot parameters, yes |
| 02:33.06 | woh3 | i had to add peristence noeject as parameters passed to bootloader |
| 02:33.25 | woh3 | but persistence is working, but home-rw is not |
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| 02:33.55 | woh3 | persistence uses a partition i called live-rw |
| 02:34.08 | woh3 | and that seems to be working great |
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| 02:35.07 | somiaj | woh3: yea just double checking things. The 1.x manaul says that should work, but I think it could have changed, checking the newer manual |
| 02:35.22 | woh3 | danka |
| 02:36.45 | woh3 | I was wondering if it was a union fs thing, since for my live-rw partition I had to do a / union command, but not for /home |
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| 02:37.56 | acacar | somiaj: It still doesnt work. |
| 02:38.39 | somiaj | acacar: either dd is not copying enough data due to your blocksize, or something is wrong with your hardware or image is all I can think of. |
| 02:39.04 | somiaj | acacar: I am unsure what the issue is. But it worked just how I described here when I testd with the current jessie xfce live image |
| 02:39.43 | somiaj | woh3: http://live.debian.net/manual/4.x/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behaviours.en.html#556 -- the newer manual describes persitance different than the past (says you should have a disk labeled persistence and a persistence.conf file to configure additional stuff such as home partitions) |
| 02:40.11 | woh3 | ah, will look at that, thanks |
| 02:40.17 | somiaj | woh3: unsure if it is an issue with backwards comadability to the info about live-rw and home-rw in the older debian live manual or something else |
| 02:40.59 | acacar | somiaj: It still doesnt work. Can you tell me what partition table you have in your usb? |
| 02:41.38 | somiaj | acacar: I did cp debian.iso /dev/sdc. I ran cfdisk /dev/sdc, I added a second partition called /dev/sdc2. Now I have two partitions (I didn't put a file system on the second yet) |
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| 02:44.04 | acacar | somiaj: What could be the problem? |
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| 02:45.41 | somiaj | acacar: as I said I can only think of it being your actual image is corrupt in a slight way or hardware. |
| 02:46.15 | somiaj | acacar: debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-xfce-desktop+nonfree.iso is the iso I am using |
| 02:47.02 | FI_OpwK | somiaj: so from what i've read, my distro is based on Wheezy with some imports from "Sid" and/or "Jessie". |
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| 02:47.12 | acacar | Ok, thanks. |
| 02:47.17 | FI_OpwK | weird. |
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| 02:48.22 | FI_OpwK | I may dual-boot with Debian Jessie just to see if I care.. |
| 02:48.27 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: and you should really be asking their support about what it is they do. |
| 02:49.03 | FI_OpwK | well, documentation shows they follow Debian Policy...with forked packages. |
| 02:49.40 | somiaj | sure and some thigns may be very similar others may not, just saying standard policy here is to only support debian, not based on debian (/msg dpkg kali) (/msg dpkg based on debian) |
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| 02:51.05 | FI_OpwK | its weird because, when I dl software...I usually go for jessie packages and everything works. |
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| 03:03.03 | somiaj | !tell FI_OpwK about don't break debian |
| 03:03.55 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: I woudln't suggest installing a binary .deb made for one distro/release in another. It can work, but it can also make things break one day. |
| 03:05.03 | FI_OpwK | true... |
| 03:05.29 | FI_OpwK | i just pull my updates from the fork...they handle the package management. |
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| 03:11.36 | CarlFK | I need some advice on packaging. https://github.com/makestuff/libargtable2 -- The build process is... amazing. Makefile: wget -O argtable2.tgz http://downloads.sourceforge ... |
| 03:11.40 | CarlFK | and instead of a .diff file, paatch.sh is a shell script of heredoc patches: ${PATCH} arg_int.c <<EOF |
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| 03:12.20 | CarlFK | I don't think debian is going to like that as part of the build process |
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| 03:12.42 | psiklops | hi |
| 03:14.57 | psiklops | i run fluxbox, and am looking for a "window"-tool to embed for example galculator in, so i can plant the window via script to a set position on my screen |
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| 03:17.24 | psiklops | unfortunately galculator doesn't have an option to open in a certain position, but i would like it to open on the left side of my screen instead of the default right upper side |
| 03:18.19 | psiklops | oops, the other way around, it opens on the left and i need it on the right |
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| 03:27.14 | northstar | psiklops, 'devilspie' |
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| 03:29.34 | psiklops | thanks northstar |
| 03:29.58 | northstar | yw |
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| 04:42.36 | oneand0 | toothe: have you checked https://packages.debian.org for availability ? |
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| 04:44.47 | toothe | CHECKS. |
| 04:44.52 | toothe | woops, caps lock on. |
| 04:45.02 | toothe | im newish to debian. |
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| 04:47.15 | squinty | http://sourceforge.net/p/ghdl-updates/wiki/Debian%20Instructions/ |
| 04:47.45 | toothe | i see... |
| 04:48.25 | toothe | thanks man. |
| 04:48.34 | toothe | i don't fully understand how debian's pkg system works |
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| 04:51.53 | shay_shay | toothe: check out the debian handbook |
| 04:52.28 | shay_shay | https://debian-handbook.info/2015/the-debian-administrators-handbook-updated-for-debian-8-available-for-proofreading/ |
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| 05:03.02 | stick-ee | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.03 | stick-ee | \ W k L C O i ; / c |
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| 05:03.11 | stick-ee | r P ) W Y Y O a |
| 05:03.12 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ |
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| 05:03.12 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@196.207.28.130] by jelly |
| 05:03.13 | *** mode/#debian [-o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 05:03.18 | markybob | jelly, thank you |
| 05:03.49 | jelly | waves |
| 05:04.01 | duser8 | Hi. This is my remastering-Script for Debian: http://pastebin.com/31wbxK8C The files I copy under "KDE-Settings" are copied to "new"... what I can see because of the the "read -p" line... but the files are not in the ISO later on.. why? |
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| 05:08.58 | jelly | gheraint: sorry, I've already kbanned it and should have mentioned that |
| 05:09.23 | gheraint | no worries |
| 05:09.32 | gheraint | bye all |
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| 05:36.05 | Komanda | scp "whoop.zip" -C admin@ip:/Users/admin/Desktop |
| 05:36.08 | Komanda | what would be the similair command with rsync? |
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| 05:49.04 | TylerDurden01 | Anyone have any idea why my LightDM-mediated Xvnc connection would show up as skewed and with the wrong colors? |
| 05:51.43 | TylerDurden01 | Looks like this http://i.imgur.com/m5um9Ix.png |
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| 05:52.27 | fuzzhead | this is good. i like it. |
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| 06:00.47 | TylerDurden01 | Problem was color depth mismatch. |
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| 06:03.49 | Haxxa | Hi, If I clone my SSD and pop it in a new computer with completely different hardware still x86_64 though - can I expect it to boot? |
| 06:04.06 | Haxxa | Do I need to consider anything? |
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| 06:06.24 | zinx | Haxxa: video drivers, maybe. generally it'll boot. |
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| 06:06.59 | Haxxa | zinx good point I am moving from intel cpu to amd cpu and intel intergrated to nvidia |
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| 06:09.12 | Komanda | ssh localhost |
| 06:09.13 | Komanda | Permission denied (publickey,gssapi-keyex,gssapi-with-mic). |
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| 06:17.35 | jelly | Haxxa: wired network will fail due to changed MAC address, wireless if it exists may be different vendor and requiring firmware you don't have yet, that sort of thing |
| 06:18.08 | jelly | dpkg, tell Haxxa about 70 |
| 06:18.15 | Haxxa | jelly in will boot atleast though |
| 06:18.33 | Haxxa | dpkg, tell Haxxa about man |
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| 06:18.53 | Haxxa | lol - " a little guy that knows everything about Linux..." |
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| 06:19.37 | FI_OpwK | debian's motto...read for 5mins...to avoid 5hrs of frustration. |
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| 06:20.22 | Haxxa | or in my case read for 5 hours to avoid 5mins of frustration |
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| 06:21.44 | FI_OpwK | w/e works... |
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| 06:22.23 | jelly | Haxxa: you can also ask the bot about stuff in private, /msg dpkg stuff |
| 06:22.53 | FI_OpwK | please dont ask what its wearing.... |
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| 06:23.57 | Haxxa | *thought |
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| 06:25.08 | dpkg | jelly: what are you talking about? |
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| 06:30.30 | shay_shay | dpkg: a/s/l |
| 06:30.30 | dpkg | Old enough/Kinky/Whereever you aren't |
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| 06:36.58 | chozha | jelly: |
| 06:37.02 | chozha | sorry |
| 06:37.16 | chozha | i need some video rec soft |
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| 06:37.27 | chozha | ca any one suggest me |
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| 06:53.36 | oskie | i have a system with 4GB RAM, free shows used=3434388 shared=40 buffers=36604 cached=41084 - how do I list processes that are using all the memory? |
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| 07:24.11 | tite12345 | Hi! |
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| 07:24.27 | FI_OpwK | hey |
| 07:24.38 | R1ck | heya. I just cloned one virtual machine to another, and the new machine logs IPv4 addresses as "::ffff:1.2.3.4" in the logfile, while the source machine just logs "1.2.3.4" - how do I make this the same again? |
| 07:24.53 | tite12345 | I'm trying ti subscribe to the Debian jobs mailing list but I can't make it work. |
| 07:24.59 | tite12345 | Could someone help me out? |
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| 07:47.58 | yei | hi |
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| 07:49.13 | FI_OpwK | hey |
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| 07:54.02 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 07:54.14 | tite12345 | I'm trying to view this video: https://vid.me/LPkR |
| 07:54.25 | tite12345 | With Tor Browser, but I can't since I've got no Flash. |
| 07:54.28 | tite12345 | How do I go about this? |
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| 07:55.56 | nbags | they disabled flash since it poses a security & privacy risk. you could set up another browser with flash to proxy though tor but that wouldnt be as safe |
| 07:56.03 | FI_OpwK | use a different browser maybe. |
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| 07:59.35 | tite12345 | Hmm |
| 08:00.01 | TylerDurden01 | Have the various apache2 tools such as a2ensite been removed during the migration to jessie? |
| 08:00.15 | TylerDurden01 | If so, what's the new way of doing it with systemd |
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| 08:01.57 | nbags | TylerDurden01, im seeing those tools on my jessie system |
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| 08:02.56 | TylerDurden01 | nbags: I have apache2 and apache2-utils installed but I don't have a2 |
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| 08:03.50 | nbags | TylerDurden01, its part of apache2-2.4.10-10+deb8u3 on my system |
| 08:04.02 | nbags | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:04.30 | tdn | I have followed this howto to enable printing from iOS devices in Debian 7: https://ezunix.org/index.php?title=Enable_iOS_AirPrint_with_any_printer_supported_by_CUPS However, it has stopped working. When I print from ipad/iphone it says "printer is passive". What am I missing? |
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| 08:05.59 | TylerDurden01 | nbags: yep, they're there. Does Debian store "super" bins there? (I come from archlinux). |
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| 08:09.36 | alechko | hey guys, I'm having a problem with detecting/mounting an SD card when inserted into my laptop card reader, running jessie on thinkpad x250, everything worked great until yesterday, I have autofs mounting the SD card, and suddenly it stopped. the last software I've installed was luminance-hdr which installed tons of dependencies, and I think that might be related. So basically the card not recognized AT ALL, nothing in dmesg, have no |
| 08:10.10 | FI_OpwK | does live build run automatically after completion ? |
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| 08:32.28 | ChrisH | alechko: if the card is not detected in dmesg, the card might broken. I had that some weeks ago with the SD Card in my wife's mobile phone. SD Card broken from one minute to the next. |
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| 08:33.22 | alechko | ChrisH: the card is fine, I've downloaded the images via gphoto with no problem, only when inserted to the reader it's not detected |
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| 08:34.36 | ChrisH | alechko: I cannot believe that. Are the dmesg messages current? compare dmesg -T versus the output from journalcti |
| 08:35.29 | alvin | I just ran into this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=794410 The installer hangs at 12% during 'running dpkg'. Ay suggestions for a workaround? For example, this system needs firmware-linux-nonfree. Is there an ISO that already contains it? I'm now using a netinst image. |
| 08:35.30 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/794410 in debian-installer (open): «debian-installer: Installer hangs during 'select and install software'»; severity: important; opened: 2015-08-02; last modified: 2015-09-13. |
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| 08:38.43 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell alvin about firmware images |
| 08:39.40 | alechko | ChrisH: can't see nothing related to storage devices activity in dmesg |
| 08:39.47 | alvin | ChrisH: Thanks. I'll try that |
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| 08:40.35 | ChrisH | alvin: did you check the timestamps? try lsub and/or lshw -short |
| 08:40.57 | ChrisH | alvin: sorry. picked wrong nick this time. |
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| 08:41.11 | alvin | Yes, I was wondering how to do that :-) |
| 08:41.12 | ChrisH | alechko: did you check the timestamps? try lsub and/or lshw -short and blkid |
| 08:41.54 | alechko | ChrisH: looking in the tail |
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| 08:42.39 | alechko | ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/eRang7wq |
| 08:43.36 | alechko | maybe remove autofs and reboot? |
| 08:44.09 | alechko | but then again, it's not on fdisk anyway so not sure if will help |
| 08:44.32 | ChrisH | alechko: I would powercycle not only reboot... before removing SW |
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| 08:45.11 | alechko | ChrisH: I'll try, will be back if not helps |
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| 08:47.16 | alvin | Jigdo is great. I'm on a slow connection and the iso is already created based on the other netinst iso. |
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| 08:54.14 | alechko | ChrisH: so hard reboot did the trick, and now we're back in business. There's a small catch why it didn't work on prior reboots, the x250 has 2 batteries, one of the is built in for battery hot-swap, so I had to go into BIOS and trigger the total poweroff even for the built in battery. now all good. |
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| 08:55.08 | Kaliiiixx | Hi. |
| 08:55.35 | Kaliiiixx | I have a little problem when trying installing docker on on whezzy version. |
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| 08:55.47 | Kaliiiixx | I added the backport repo |
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| 08:56.26 | Kaliiiixx | W: Failed to fetch http://get.docker.io/ubuntu/dists/docker/main/binary-amd64/Packages 301 Moved Permanently [IP: 54.88.210.164 80] |
| 08:56.33 | Kaliiiixx | I still blocked here :/ |
| 08:56.56 | Kaliiiixx | Complete message : http://sprunge.us/LjaT |
| 08:57.11 | Kaliiiixx | What shoul dI do ? |
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| 08:57.21 | Kaliiiixx | What should I do ? |
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| 09:00.34 | alvin | ( ChrisH ). Using proprietary software was indeed the solution here. The installer did not hang and finished properly. |
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| 09:17.22 | corw | hi to all, the channel debian-next is no more? |
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| 09:19.59 | BotaniCar | corw: wrong server , try irc.oftc.net |
| 09:20.47 | corw | yes!! thx, debian servers |
| 09:20.53 | tite12345 | Hi! |
| 09:21.48 | tite12345 | Could you guys suggest services on which I could upload anything? |
| 09:21.58 | tite12345 | Like multimedia, texts, etc. |
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| 09:23.32 | tite12345 | Or at least where could I upload pictures? |
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| 09:26.56 | ZIPY | hi, why did they remove unetbootin in jessie? is there an alternative, dd didnt work (didnt boot) |
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| 09:28.59 | shelmed | Just installed Debian 8 Mate from live image. Would also like to install Gnome 3 alongside Mate. I know this is not 'best practice' but this is a shared computer I want to use Gnome and the other user will only use Mate. Not sure which would be the best Gnome package to install without bloating the system. Should I use gnome-desktop-environment or Tasksel? Thanks |
| 09:29.16 | ChrisH | ZIPY: unetbootin does not work properly with debian images. cp as release notes state work. |
| 09:29.22 | tite12345 | How can I get libc.iso.6 ? |
| 09:29.43 | tite12345 | I get a prompt that tells me I'm missing a 32bit library which is libc.so.6 when I try to run Steam. |
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| 09:40.12 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell tite12345 about multiarch |
| 09:40.37 | Haxxa | Hello Can anyone help with my UPS - a systemd service fails to start and I'm not sure why - http://paste.ubuntu.com/12529911/ |
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| 09:41.29 | zigurat | YO! "*/1 * * * * /usr/sbin/script.sh &>/dev/null" I have this cronttab line but every now and then ( couple of times per day ) I receive output from the script/ How is this possible since I redirected all output to /dev/null? |
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| 09:43.26 | ZIPY | ChrisH: ah ok, i always used dd, but somehow it wont make them bootable anymore |
| 09:43.53 | ZIPY | so after cp i have to mark them as bootable? |
| 09:43.57 | tite12345 | ChrisH: Did the step and still can't run Steam |
| 09:44.21 | tite12345 | ChrisH: Haven't looked into the website link though, do I really need to? :( |
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| 09:48.05 | tite12345 | Holy shit! |
| 09:48.38 | tite12345 | ChrisH: I think I may have it working now, but it may not work smoothly in some time as it said that I'm missing some of the libs. |
| 09:48.42 | tite12345 | I ran Steam from cli. |
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| 09:48.48 | tite12345 | Now I got the Steam window |
| 09:48.51 | shelmed | ZIPY: After cp don't need to mark as bootable - this is an iso hybrid image - cp only and it just works! |
| 09:48.55 | tite12345 | It's updating Steam currently :D |
| 09:49.38 | ZIPY | shelmed: ok, do you also know why dd is not working anymore too? |
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| 09:52.43 | shelmed | dd should work - not sure why it hasn't worked for you - need to remember to unmount your USB drive when writing the iso to it using dd |
| 09:53.29 | shelmed | ZIPY: dd should work - not sure why it hasn't worked for you - need to remember to unmount your USB drive when writing the iso to it using dd |
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| 09:53.39 | ZIPY | i tried it now for windwos 10 and also windows 7, coulnt boot both of them |
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| 09:54.45 | ZIPY | i know it worked in the past... im burning a dvd right now :/ |
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| 10:15.10 | anddam | I'm using autossh to establish a tunnel from a server behind a router toward one on internet |
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| 10:16.02 | anddam | sometimes the connection drop and I don't see autossh restarting it, or better I see the sshd on the server on internet "keeping" the connection alive |
| 10:16.28 | anddam | in this very moment the server running autossh/ssh is shut down, yet on the host on internet I see |
| 10:16.42 | anddam | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:16500 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 23415/sshd: eme |
| 10:17.11 | anddam | why is this? how can I tell sshd to drop such connections? |
| 10:17.18 | anddam | that's the output of netstat, btw |
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| 10:22.00 | anddam | s/from autossh to bind/by autossh from binding/ |
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| 10:24.40 | zigurat | "*/1 * * * * /usr/sbin/script.sh &>/dev/null" I have this cronttab line but every now and then ( couple of times per day ) I receive output from the script/ How is this possible since I redirected all output to /dev/null? |
| 10:25.06 | zigurat | Shall I start opening a bug with debian |
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| 10:38.40 | dFence | hey guys! Where do I set the behaviour for ctrl+alt+del in debian jessie? (inittab isn’t the place to look for it I guess :D) |
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| 10:39.52 | Che-Anarc | after install sudo - how can I have my shell session also include that without having to logout |
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| 10:56.14 | tite12345 | Hi! |
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| 10:56.27 | tite12345 | Ah nevermind :( |
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| 11:00.41 | petn-randall | tite12345: Glad we could help. ;0 |
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| 11:09.50 | JyZyXEL | how do you do automatic upgrades for iceweasel? |
| 11:10.29 | zigurat | "*/1 * * * * /usr/sbin/script.sh &>/dev/null" I have this cronttab line but every now and then ( couple of times per day ) I receive output from the script/ How is this possible since I redirected all output to /dev/null? |
| 11:10.48 | JyZyXEL | whats the & for? |
| 11:11.09 | SynrG | &> is shorthand for 2>&1 |
| 11:11.26 | SynrG | er, shorthand for '>foo 2>&1' :) |
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| 11:13.44 | SynrG | zigurat: i don't think &> is POSIX |
| 11:13.55 | SynrG | zigurat: try >/dev/null 2>/dev/null |
| 11:14.01 | SynrG | or >/dev/null 2>&1 |
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| 11:23.45 | Kaliiiixx | Any idea ? |
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| 11:38.01 | JyZyXEL | how do i define iceweasel in "/etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades"? |
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| 11:38.23 | JyZyXEL | the help says nothing about the package name |
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| 11:53.08 | TomyWork | i'm on wheezy. i have packages A-1.0 A-2.0 B-1.0 B-2.0. B-2.0 breaks A-1.0, A-2.0 breaks B-1.0, A-1.0 requires B>=1.0~. I run "apt-get install A=1.0" and it tells me that i likely requested an impossible situation. Running "apt-get install A=1.0 B=1.0" works and so does manually marking both packages via aptitude |
| 11:53.13 | Lope | I need to make phonecalls from my laptop to various countries. I'd like to use some VOIP solution instead of installing skype rubbish on my computer. However when looking at a SIP client, I noticed that I have to forward a port to my laptop to be able to use it. That's a problem when travelling around using random wifi hotspots etc. Any suggestions? So far I've thought of "Skype in a VM" but their prices are not even good. |
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| 11:55.41 | abrotman | TomyWork: please use real package names, or use a pastebin |
| 11:56.02 | abrotman | Also, there's no actual question, you were likely truncated |
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| 12:01.44 | ZIPY | for dualboot debian/win10 uefi or not? |
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| 12:02.10 | ZIPY | i feel like uefi causes so much trouble... |
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| 12:21.26 | likecolacola | are there huge differences between debian 7.9 and 7.0?, and between 7.9 and 8.0?, my vps offers debian 7 and debian 8 and don't know which one to choose (my aim was 7.9) |
| 12:22.34 | sonOfRa | likecolacola: debian 7 is "oldstable". It's still supported, but the current stable version is 8 |
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| 12:24.30 | likecolacola | sonOfRa: ok, thanks! |
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| 12:26.38 | doohdaah | lsb_release -a gives "Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.8 (wheezy)" but 'apt-get dist-upgrade' gives 0. I need jessie. How? |
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| 12:30.02 | TomyWork | abrotman real package names would serve no purpose since they're not public packages. They only complicate the matter. The question is "Why does apt-get not find a proper dependency on its own when specifying it explicitly works?" |
| 12:30.13 | TomyWork | They would only* |
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| 12:31.37 | TomyWork | doohdaah apt-get dist-upgrade does not upgrade to a newer distribution version. it upgrades your current distribution version's packages to the latest versions from *that* distribution |
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| 12:31.46 | TomyWork | !wheezy->jessie |
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| 12:32.40 | TomyWork | i dont know how the bot works but it used to have a short factoid with the upgrade steps. you can also find the long version in the jessie manual |
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| 12:34.34 | TomyWork | https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html |
| 12:34.47 | doohdaah | TomyWork: reading the long manual now ...seems to make no sense though. Is Wheezy 7.8 good as latest Jessie? |
| 12:34.47 | TomyWork | hmm, maybe use the amd64 variant :) |
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| 12:35.18 | TomyWork | doohdaah no. a good way to tell is to look at whether it comes with systemd by default :) |
| 12:36.22 | doohdaah | TomyWork: I was reading the amd64 version. it still makes no sense ...I seem to have done all there (i glanced through) |
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| 12:37.18 | doohdaah | TomyWork: how to I check for 'systemd'? - what is that?? |
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| 12:37.43 | zigurat | &> is perfectly viable from bash4 |
| 12:37.59 | zigurat | It means both 1 and 2 go to whatever file you point to |
| 12:38.08 | zylinx | Whats the difference betwene debian desktop env. and GNOME? |
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| 12:41.59 | abrotman | zylinx: What is "debian desktop env" ? |
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| 12:43.57 | zylinx | abrotman When you install debian you can choose gnome or debian desktoo environment or any of the othe DE's like xfce |
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| 12:44.31 | zylinx | But debian desktop environment looks very similar to gnome, so just wondering what the differences are |
| 12:44.52 | abrotman | maybe just some partial bits .. you can look at the task if you'd like |
| 12:45.31 | doohdaah | TomyWork: OK removing the CD for Wheezy from repository seems to do something... still at it |
| 12:46.00 | doohdaah | how do i change the repository to the best one ...its defaulted to US and I am not there |
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| 12:46.45 | zylinx | abortman which task? |
| 12:46.56 | abrotman | the one you just asked about? |
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| 12:47.51 | WangDang | doohdaah: try httpredir.debian.org. That is supposed to do some magic to find the best server for your location |
| 12:47.53 | zylinx | How would I go about looking at the task |
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| 12:48.07 | zylinx | abrotman |
| 12:48.30 | abrotman | zylinx: man tasksel |
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| 12:49.40 | zylinx | Ah, well my laptop is busy installing debian, on my phone... I was just wondering if anyone here knew the differences in the 2 DE's |
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| 12:52.03 | abrotman | zylinx: apt-cache show task-desktop |
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| 12:56.26 | zylinx | Thanks abrotman, will try it when im running |
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| 12:57.28 | doohdaah | after removing Wheezy CD image from Repositories ...Release oved up from 7.8 to 7.9 on Upgrade ...still no Jessie on 'dist-upgrade' |
| 12:58.02 | abrotman | zylinx: packages.debian.org/task-desktop |
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| 12:58.17 | abrotman | dpkg: tell doohdaah about wheezy->jessie |
| 12:58.51 | doohdaah | to go to jessie |
| 12:58.58 | abrotman | yes .. |
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| 13:00.28 | Guest64452 | make /swap in data partition (like D: in windows), is it possible? |
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| 13:03.17 | nkuttler | Guest64452: you can have swap files |
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| 13:04.16 | Guest64452 | nkuttler, will I lost all the mp3 I have in that partition? |
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| 13:04.53 | Guest64452 | is it safe to use /swap in my "D" drive? |
| 13:05.58 | nkuttler | Guest64452: you mean there's some windows filesystem on the partition? |
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| 13:07.00 | Guest64452 | nkuttler, yes, I have documents, mp3s on the partition... |
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| 13:07.28 | dosya | hello. can someone drop on pastebin default configurations for mysql and apache2? |
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| 13:07.54 | nkuttler | dosya: why do you need them? |
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| 13:08.07 | dosya | nkuttler: my one is ruined |
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| 13:08.15 | nkuttler | dosya: purge/reinstall the package |
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| 13:08.41 | dosya | nkuttler: cant |
| 13:09.20 | nkuttler | dosya: why? |
| 13:09.30 | dosya | nkuttler: magic word: please |
| 13:10.44 | Guest64452 | nkuttler, guess http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-add-a-swap-file-howto/ and https://wiki.debian.org/Hibernation/Hibernate_Without_Swap_Partition is what you mean? |
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| 13:12.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell dosya about confnew |
| 13:13.25 | dosya | dpkg command not found. apt-get either |
| 13:13.25 | dpkg | no idea, dosya |
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| 13:14.01 | abrotman | dosya: what linux distro are you using? |
| 13:14.15 | dosya | abrotman: centos virt machine |
| 13:14.22 | abrotman | dosya: use #centos or ##linux |
| 13:14.30 | abrotman | dosya: this isn't a general linux support channel |
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| 13:15.35 | dosya | abrotman: i cant find default conf files on google |
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| 13:15.58 | rollitup | I have a digital ocean droplet with debian installed |
| 13:15.59 | abrotman | dosya: ask #centos or ##linux, we can't help you |
| 13:16.12 | rollitup | can I ask couple of questions to get the concept clear ? |
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| 13:21.08 | bezaban | rollitup: no need to ask to ask |
| 13:21.19 | rozie | rollitup: just try. hope those are Debian questions not DO ones |
| 13:21.43 | rollitup | like i have set-up couple of websites using apache vhosts |
| 13:22.43 | rollitup | these sites are served from /var/www/site1/public_html /var/www/site2/public_html now I wish to grant sftp access to the developer of one website |
| 13:23.15 | rollitup | I also want that his access should be limited to the partcular site1/public_html dir |
| 13:24.30 | rollitup | I followed an article on setting up Setup Chroot SFTP but I seem to be doing wrong |
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| 13:24.46 | rollitup | http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2012/03/chroot-sftp-setup/ |
| 13:25.33 | rollitup | Is this the safe way to do it ? |
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| 13:26.57 | rozie | no chroot is safe. if you don't trust that dev - new vps is $5 there |
| 13:27.12 | rollitup | on digital ocean ? |
| 13:27.38 | rozie | yep |
| 13:28.46 | rozie | cheapest one, of course. but if you have several websites... |
| 13:29.08 | rollitup | I have this droplet on the 10 $ one |
| 13:29.42 | rollitup | and i had hosted couple of my clients website but on of the website is being re-designed by some other developer |
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| 13:31.00 | markybob | rollitup, i'd use vsftpd. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/94603/limit-ftp-access-only-to-the-var-www-with-vsftpd |
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| 13:31.47 | rollitup | I was trying that earlier however someone on the digitalocean channel suggested me that the safest thing is sftp |
| 13:32.03 | rollitup | but I will check the link shared by markybob |
| 13:34.19 | rollitup | the article that i was trying to follow is https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-up-vsftpd-on-ubuntu-12-04 |
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| 13:36.29 | dff | hi, im trying to read the wiki on debian.or but get this error |
| 13:36.31 | dff | Forbidden |
| 13:36.31 | dff | <p>You are not allowed to access this!</p> |
| 13:36.35 | dff | https://wiki.debian.org/MacBookAir |
| 13:36.53 | rozie | dff: works for me |
| 13:36.55 | markybob | rollitup, i use vsftpd with tls no problem. i don't know how anyone can say it's not safe when used that way |
| 13:37.25 | markybob | dff, works here |
| 13:37.35 | dff | just me then :/ |
| 13:37.39 | rollitup | I'll try that again |
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| 13:38.18 | dff | works with tor, apparently the hotel im staying isnt allowed to view the wiki :) |
| 13:38.43 | rozie | dff: maybe some abuse from this IP... |
| 13:38.47 | rollitup | Would the vsftp user in question be the unix user ? |
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| 13:40.08 | markybob | rollitup, restate the question |
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| 13:41.00 | dff | Wifi - Only works with a non-free driver and or firmware - https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookAir/6-2 |
| 13:41.05 | dff | what does that mean exactly? |
| 13:41.55 | rollitup | Would the user who I wish to grant access to vsftp need to be created like the Linux user we create ? |
| 13:42.11 | markybob | rollitup, that'd be the easiest way, yes |
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| 13:43.51 | rollitup | ok when I created the droplet with Debian I had followed an article in which we had restricted root ssh access and also changed the port to 25000 so do I need to consider this when using vsftp ? |
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| 13:44.54 | markybob | vsftpd doesn't care |
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| 13:46.13 | markybob | rollitup, i have to go for a bit. good luck |
| 13:46.21 | bumbar_ | i've created a new user, but prompt doesn't show path and auto completion doesn't work |
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| 13:47.25 | rollitup | thanks |
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| 13:48.23 | themill | bumbar_: what shell do they have (echo $SHELL or look in /etc/passwd) |
| 13:48.39 | bumbar_ | by default /bin/sh but i've changed it to /bin/bash |
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| 13:52.05 | themill | bumbar_: you'd need to log out and log back in to start using bash as the shell and once you've done that, it should be ok |
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| 13:54.49 | bumbar_ | themill, yeah, tried that and it works, i thought i could reload with . |
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| 13:56.05 | JexHd | how can i install qt5 on debian? |
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| 13:57.49 | centrx | JexHd, For development? |
| 13:58.30 | JexHd | no, i want to install zeal, and it requires qt5 |
| 13:58.40 | themill | bumbar_: "." only sources a file, it doesn't re-exec the shell |
| 13:58.48 | themill | JexHd: qt5 is in debian |
| 13:59.56 | JexHd | themill: when i run sudo apt-get install qt5-default |
| 14:00.01 | JexHd | i get Unable to locate package qt5-default |
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| 14:00.27 | themill | JexHd: which release of debian are you running? |
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| 14:02.10 | JexHd | themill: Debian 3.18.6-1 |
| 14:02.45 | themill | that's not a debian version |
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| 14:03.26 | themill | !suite |
| 14:03.26 | dpkg | cat /etc/debian_version (or lsb_release -sc). Or check /etc/apt/sources.list. If unsure about the distribution, $ cat /etc/{*version*,*release*,*issue*} should grab almost all distributions. |
| 14:03.48 | JexHd | themill: it's 1.1.0 |
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| 14:04.05 | themill | that's also not a debian version |
| 14:04.35 | JexHd | running lsb_release -sc, gives me 'moto' |
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| 14:05.38 | themill | which isn't even debian... |
| 14:05.41 | themill | !kali |
| 14:05.41 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 14:06.52 | JexHd | yep, upload a gist |
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| 14:07.37 | Burps | Hello. Using Jessie, I distribute my (local) NTP server though DHCP. Works fine with my headleass box, but for my laptop, with Network Manager, it keeps using the server in ntp.conf. I've found a few bug request that seem very old, but one seems to have a solution : is there a way to clean that ? |
| 14:08.08 | Burps | ... bit NONE seems to have a solution... |
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| 14:08.28 | Burps | ^^BUT^^ (sorry for typos) |
| 14:08.59 | JexHd | dpkg: this is the output of your command https://gist.github.com/anonymous/502ff3b9b87ceffa0eb0 |
| 14:09.00 | dpkg | JexHd: what are you talking about? |
| 14:09.02 | themill | I though network manager told dhclient to ask for ntp servers |
| 14:09.16 | themill | JexHd: you're not running debian |
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| 14:09.31 | markybob | JexHd, that means you're not supported here |
| 14:09.40 | JexHd | dpkg: i want to install zeal, but it requires qt5 |
| 14:09.40 | dpkg | JexHd: I give up, what is it? |
| 14:10.02 | markybob | JexHd, dpkg is a bot. and you're not supported here (again) |
| 14:10.04 | themill | JexHd: dpkg is a bot; #debian is for debian; you're not running debian. You want #kali-linux. |
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| 14:10.51 | JexHd | but kali is running on debian, and the problem is with a debian package, i don't understand ??? |
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| 14:11.12 | JexHd | markybob: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/502ff3b9b87ceffa0eb0 |
| 14:11.20 | ChrisH | Burps: one option might be to have NTP Server broadcasts and set the client broadcastclient yes ... but secure might be different :) |
| 14:11.27 | markybob | JexHd, it's not debian. stop it |
| 14:11.34 | themill | JexHd: no, if kali were debian it would be called "debian" not "kali" and you would have qt5 packages available. |
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| 14:12.35 | JexHd | markybob: themill ok i get it :-( |
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| 14:14.08 | doohdaah | while awaiting dist-upgrade from a minimal wheezy to jessie to complete ... how do I install systemwide support for a language, tamil [ta], in jessie? |
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| 14:15.02 | Burps | themill: I don't understand what you mean with " network manager told dhclient to ask for ntp servers" : could you please elaborate ? |
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| 14:15.59 | themill | dhclient's config has «also request ntp-servers;» at the bottom of it |
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| 14:18.27 | Burps | in dhclient.conf, i DO have "request [...], ntp-servers,[...]" |
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| 14:21.21 | dff | is it possible to add files to the same USB stick you run debian from? (live-cd) |
| 14:21.39 | dff | i cant get the wifi to work and need to add the files offline somehow |
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| 14:21.57 | dff | (drivers) |
| 14:22.07 | jubo2 | dff: WiFi firmware |
| 14:22.13 | jubo2 | Is my guess |
| 14:22.13 | dff | yeah |
| 14:22.21 | jubo2 | dff: don't you have a 2nd stick or something |
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| 14:22.32 | dff | i dont |
| 14:22.37 | Burps | more digging : "ps ax" shows me : "sbin/dhclient [...] -cf /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-eth0.conf eth0", and /var/lib/NetworkManager/dhclient-eth0.conf contains "request ntp-servers" and "also request ntp-servers" |
| 14:22.40 | jubo2 | I'm quite certain that sticks that are able to hold more then just an image are coming |
| 14:22.45 | dff | worst case ill go buy one, but thought there might be another solution |
| 14:22.48 | jubo2 | dff: and no Ethernet either I suppose |
| 14:22.53 | dff | nope :/ |
| 14:22.58 | dff | im offline when i boot into debian |
| 14:23.40 | jubo2 | take your machine somewhere with Ethernet ? |
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| 14:23.41 | dff | but the usb holding the live-cd of debian cant hold the drivers "on the side" |
| 14:23.51 | abrotman | dff: you'd have to remasater the iso, ask #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:23.58 | jubo2 | dff: I know only of pendrivelinux |
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| 14:24.09 | dff | ok thnx ill go ask |
| 14:24.15 | jubo2 | it's like a "multi-image" booter but didn't work when I tried to use it |
| 14:24.22 | abrotman | jubo2: that's not what he's asking |
| 14:24.31 | jubo2 | yeah but it has some similarity |
| 14:25.05 | jubo2 | putting more stuff onto the disk then just one 1GB disk image wasting the rest of the stick must be a common problem |
| 14:26.06 | AvatarA | jubo2, what are you trying to do? I just joined |
| 14:26.24 | abrotman | please move along, the fellow went to ask the proper channel |
| 14:26.31 | jubo2 | AvatarA: I am being happy with mi Debian8.1 servers and mi Kubuntu15 desktop |
| 14:26.38 | jubo2 | okays abrotman |
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| 14:31.44 | dff | "non-free driver and or firmware" - does that mean proprietary? |
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| 14:33.23 | Burps | About my NTP issue : I found this : http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-ntp-maintainers/2015-February/003870.html |
| 14:33.38 | markybob | dff non-free means it doesn't comply with the dfsg |
| 14:33.48 | Burps | Can I apply this to my box ? or it it meant for the packages ? |
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| 14:35.15 | themill | Burps: you could create the file /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ntp using the contents of that patch -- looks sane to me |
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| 14:40.17 | ToHellWithGA | i have a mac mini that i'm tired of messing with - i previously had debian and ended up running a bunch of ported software intended to run on linux (and perhaps BSD) but now want to switch over to debian. |
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| 14:42.15 | abrotman | ToHellWithGA: PPC or x86? |
| 14:42.37 | head8debian | Why are all the nonfree-firmware torrents not working? Or is it just me? |
| 14:42.48 | abrotman | it's only 200MB, just download it directly |
| 14:42.55 | abrotman | 250MB? close enough |
| 14:43.33 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | Hi, does this channel for newbies or there is another one instead? |
| 14:43.50 | nkuttler | HPPavilionG6i7AM: just ask your real question |
| 14:44.27 | head8debian | Uhm, the live ISOs. |
| 14:44.37 | head8debian | And im only downloading them to torrent. |
| 14:45.10 | Guest26754 | I have just installed debian netinstall (only core), how do I turn wifi on. |
| 14:45.13 | Guest26754 | ? |
| 14:45.20 | Guest26754 | I cant even use lan... |
| 14:45.53 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | nkuttler: Thanks :) , I've a small net book, Acer AspireOne 722 with 2 GB ram and very slow using windows 7 starter so someone advised me to try linux instead, so my question is does debian is light for such type of computers? or not? |
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| 14:46.24 | g00se | xfce desktop would be nice |
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| 14:46.58 | markybob | HPPavilionG6i7AM, yes. you'll be fine. i have a really low-end 2gb laptop and xfce is fine |
| 14:47.03 | g00se | Guest26754: and what did it say when you were configuring the network? |
| 14:47.28 | g00se | And i've run xfce fine with half the RAM you have |
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| 14:48.33 | g00se | You _might_ want to check out that wireless is supported first though. In certain (rare) cases it isn't |
| 14:48.53 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | markybob: this is the exact model http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007C5VOP6 |
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| 14:49.40 | doohdaah | in jessie is there an easier system wide language installation support? looking to support Tamil [ta] |
| 14:49.50 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | markybob: I am new to linux and never used it before so which .iso I should download? |
| 14:50.17 | Guest26754 | g00se, I dont, i can see my wlan0, but iwlist scan gives me than wlan0 doesnt support scanning... |
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| 14:50.30 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | debian-8.2.0-i386-netinst.iso ? this one? |
| 14:50.45 | markybob | HPPavilionG6i7AM, the amd64 one. not i386 |
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| 14:51.10 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | markybob: debian-8.2.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ? |
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| 14:51.26 | boubou | [10:50:07] <boubou> anyone have ever exported a wildcard ssl cert to a pem ? |
| 14:51.26 | boubou | [10:50:50] <boubou> my keys is not exported then my certificate is not signed |
| 14:51.38 | markybob | HPPavilionG6i7AM, yes. should work unless you need extra firmwares and such. we'll cross that bridge if we need to :) |
| 14:51.43 | Guest26754 | g00se, I believe this because of hardware switch, my wifi is switched of automatically as soon the computer boot to debian |
| 14:52.02 | jozu8618 | Hi, for example : there is debian server. I have shell there. I want to set up webpage with php script that logs details to logfile thats within /www/ directory. I would like to set it up in such a way that no other user(thousands of users) would be able to see it(except with permissions). What should be the way to do it ? I'm using .htaccess to restrict access to log file from outside. |
| 14:52.40 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | how can I get this debian-8.2.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso into a usb stick ? to install it from usb because netbook does not ha a dvd drive. |
| 14:52.43 | Burps | themill: regarding NTP/NetworkManager : thank you for your advice, it worked |
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| 14:53.31 | markybob | HPPavilionG6i7AM, https://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb |
| 14:53.38 | g00se | So you've already tried it then? |
| 14:53.47 | markybob | HPPavilionG6i7AM, note the win32diskimager part |
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| 14:54.15 | oujozu | HPP, use program called Unetbootin |
| 14:54.22 | oujozu | both from win and linux |
| 14:54.25 | oujozu | enviroments |
| 14:54.27 | g00se | Don't |
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| 14:54.35 | markybob | no, don't |
| 14:54.39 | oujozu | why no ? |
| 14:54.43 | markybob | !Unetbootin |
| 14:54.43 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 14:55.01 | oujozu | ohh, never had any problems |
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| 14:55.24 | oujozu | maybe someone can answer my question ? |
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| 14:55.43 | g00se | What IS the question? |
| 14:55.58 | HPPavilionG6i7AM | but i do not have a linux machine my friend but only windows 8 on another computer which i am using right now, so how to create the usb under windows 8? |
| 14:55.59 | oujozu | there is debian server. I have shell there. I want to set up webpage with php script that logs details to logfile thats within /www/ directory. I would like to set it up in such a way that no other user(thousands of users) would be able to see it(except with permissions). What should be the way to do it ? I'm using .htaccess to restrict access to log file from outside. |
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| 14:56.34 | oujozu | when i set chmod 777 logfile.txt |
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| 14:56.41 | oujozu | php is able to write to this file |
| 14:56.54 | oujozu | but im worried thats not the right permission for the logfile |
| 14:57.03 | oujozu | no other modes works |
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| 14:57.21 | oujozu | elseway php is unable to write to the file |
| 14:57.22 | g00se | A crude way would be to sudo tee to a log file owned by root |
| 14:57.33 | oujozu | yeah, but root is unavailable |
| 14:57.39 | oujozu | it is ordinary user |
| 14:57.41 | CissWit | oujozu: first, you shouldn't save the log file in the www directory |
| 14:57.53 | AvatarA | who owns that /var/www? |
| 14:57.55 | CissWit | because that means that the log file will be publicly accessible and thats bad |
| 14:57.58 | g00se | It doesn't have to be root |
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| 14:58.17 | oujozu | CissWit: I use .htaccess to restrict |
| 14:58.19 | CissWit | or, that usually is bad. It pretty much depend on the content of the log file, but still. It's a pretty bad practice |
| 14:58.25 | g00se | And you wouldn't want it floodable either |
| 14:58.41 | oujozu | My idea is very simple : |
| 14:58.53 | CissWit | oujozu: that's still bad practice. Nothing stops you from saving the file elsewhere in the file system. And you should |
| 14:58.55 | oujozu | 1. index.php contains php script that logs ip, user agent so on... |
| 14:59.01 | ctmjr | HPPavilionG6i7AM:http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/ use this |
| 14:59.02 | oujozu | 2. logs to text file |
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| 14:59.16 | oujozu | 3. restrict access from other users and outside web clients |
| 14:59.37 | oujozu | I'm having some problems saving this log file elsewhere than /www/ |
| 14:59.39 | g00se | Sounds like you're reinventing Apache logging |
| 14:59.43 | CissWit | oujozu: why ? |
| 15:00.06 | fernie | 4 |
| 15:00.15 | CissWit | and btw g00se is correct, most web servers log those information already |
| 15:00.31 | oujozu | But I don't have access to webserver log |
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| 15:01.29 | markybob | aint nobody know what's going on around here |
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| 15:02.08 | oujozu | What do you mean ? :) |
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| 15:02.34 | CissWit | oujozu: so you don't have administrative access on the web server ? |
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| 15:02.41 | oujozu | No |
| 15:02.54 | oujozu | it is simple hosting service with shell access |
| 15:02.58 | g00se | Why not? I can't imagine that your web space doesn't support access to logs |
| 15:03.01 | srg | Are there any functional/performance differences between hypervisors? I use VirtualBox now, but I've heard KVM/QEMU is better? |
| 15:03.11 | g00se | shell access != simple |
| 15:03.22 | g00se | (usually) |
| 15:03.30 | oujozu | I didn't say that shell access = simple |
| 15:03.34 | oujozu | it is simple hosting service |
| 15:03.37 | oujozu | :) |
| 15:04.16 | AvatarA | srg yes there are but it all depends on what you're using the vm for |
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| 15:05.30 | srg | AvatarA: The host is debian testing. I wanted to run kali linux and some intentionally vulnerable VMs to "attack", as well as FreeBSD and Win10. |
| 15:05.39 | srg | AvatarA: so really, I'm using it for "everything" |
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| 15:07.49 | AvatarA | so you don't really need to squeeze every ounce of performance, you could stick to virtualbox |
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| 15:08.06 | AvatarA | maybe install the guest additions or what they're called if graphic performance sucks |
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| 15:09.08 | srg | AvatarA: ok, I'll check them out. I think in that case I'll stick to VirtualBox since it'll be annoying to migrate, heh |
| 15:09.10 | srg | THanks! |
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| 15:09.17 | ctmjr | srg: also your cpu has to support hardware virtualization to use kvm |
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| 15:09.57 | MadHatter42 | does AllowGroups allow regex ? |
| 15:10.07 | AvatarA | ps: start with Win10 that's probably the most vulnerable :] |
| 15:10.26 | mns | I am trying to do this "pkexec urxvt" and I get the following: "No protocol specified. urxvt: can't open display :0, aborting." Both DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY are defined correctly. This is a fresh install of Debian/stretch (XFce) |
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| 15:11.15 | MadHatter42 | does AllowGroups allow regex ? |
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| 15:14.14 | asdasd | I installed debian on a usb and chose the bootloader to be in/dev/sdc (my usb) however when i boot up i see a grub that says linuc mint and ubuntu, the same as the computer in which it was creat |
| 15:14.22 | asdasd | Any ideas? |
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| 15:15.57 | AvatarA | seems you're not booting from that usb |
| 15:16.25 | asdasd | AvatarA: I am because i tried using it in another computer. |
| 15:16.28 | asdasd | AvatarA: What could have gone wrong? |
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| 15:18.53 | AvatarA | then grub created boot entries for what it found on your system |
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| 15:19.31 | AvatarA | if debian is correctly installed on your usb drive then you could manually add an entry to /boot/grub/grub.cfg on that stick |
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| 15:20.44 | tugrik | asdasd: when I build Debian on a stick, I think it picks up what other OSs are installed on that PC and add.... |
| 15:20.46 | tugrik | bah |
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| 15:21.12 | rollitup | markybob, I've installed vsftp succesfully however I am unable to access the ftp using Filezilla |
| 15:21.35 | mcordingley | Suppose I'm running Stretch and `apt-get install -t experimental foo`, would package `foo` eventually revert to the version from Stretch, assuming that the package in Experimental doesn't get updated? |
| 15:21.54 | mcordingley | I'm still getting a handle on cross-distribution package handling. |
| 15:22.13 | markybob | rollitup, and? pastebin the logs |
| 15:22.33 | zylinx | abrotman may i pm you ? |
| 15:22.33 | rollitup | one moment |
| 15:22.46 | shay_shay | Mc |
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| 15:23.11 | abrotman | zylinx: about what? |
| 15:23.20 | zylinx | installing KDE |
| 15:23.28 | shay_shay | mcordingley: cross-distrubution package management is nicknamed frankendebian here, and frowned upon |
| 15:23.42 | abrotman | zylinx: I wouldn't know a thing about it .. ask the whole channel |
| 15:23.51 | zylinx | ok |
| 15:23.59 | deedaah | df -h gives '/dev/mapper/debian-root 322M 198M 108M 65% /' ...ie 65% use with 108M available. Is it dangerous to run on this? |
| 15:24.06 | shay_shay | mcordingley: check out #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 15:24.13 | mcordingley | shay_shay: I am aware, which is why I'd be interested in things converging back to a single distribution. I ask because I'm more or less forced to pull from Experimental if I want my hardware to work: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Drivers |
| 15:24.25 | shay_shay | Mc |
| 15:24.35 | SynrG | shay_shay: it's not 'frankendebian' when you are on testing+unstable, or testing+unstable+experimental |
| 15:24.36 | abrotman | deedaah: depends what other partitions you have and what the box does |
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| 15:24.43 | shay_shay | Sorry just changed irc clients still getting the hang of the nick complete |
| 15:24.54 | SynrG | shay_shay: it's frankdebian when you're on stable+testing, etc. (or mixing from other distributions) |
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| 15:26.34 | zylinx | i am trying to install KDE, i am using: aptitude install ~t^desktop$ ~t^kde-desktop$ , this asks me to insert my install disk into /media/cdrom/ well i used a flash drive so i tried to use: mount /dev/sdb1 /media/cdrom/ which mounts my flashdrive correctly as if it where a CD but the aptitude install does not detect it. |
| 15:27.08 | shay_shay | SynrG: yeah but I think in general people who update to testing do so because they haven't heard of did back porting and they think that's the only way to mix with experimental which they need for their hardware |
| 15:27.26 | shay_shay | S/did/sid |
| 15:27.32 | SynrG | shay_shay: i think that's naive. have you ever seen an Xorg backport? |
| 15:27.33 | mcordingley | xylinx: If you have a 'net connection on the box, you could just comment out the disc from sources.list. |
| 15:27.52 | deedaah | abrotman: daily use of a laptop ...browsing, editing images, listening to music ... /boot has 189 MB /var has 4 GB, /usr 1GB and /home 121 GB left |
| 15:27.55 | mcordingley | Yeah, finding out about Backports was huge. |
| 15:28.01 | shay_shay | SynrG: actually yeah that's one that I wouldn't attempt |
| 15:28.04 | SynrG | mcordingley: anyway, as shay_shay pointed out, we probably can better handle your question at #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net |
| 15:28.29 | head8debian | zylinx: You could point your /etc/apt/sources.list to use the online repos. |
| 15:28.34 | RaitoBezarius | Hey, do you think that OEM make a good job for Linux support? What should I say to a guy that is definitely convinced that Linux works on nearly every computers out of the box? |
| 15:28.34 | rollitup | markybob, here's the pastie http://pastie.org/10439728 |
| 15:28.43 | mcordingley | SynrG: Thanks. I'll hop on over there as soon as I get around to it. Feeling lazy today. :) |
| 15:29.14 | SynrG | mcordingley: but in short, use 'apt-cache policy <packagename>'. things with higher version + priority should supercede older versions |
| 15:29.24 | zylinx | thanks mcordingley and head8debian. I appreciate the alternative but i cannot afford to DL 1GB right now :/ |
| 15:30.01 | head8debian | zylinx: Well, does your flash drive have the KDE package on it? |
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| 15:30.05 | Silicium_ | hi there |
| 15:30.06 | zylinx | yeah |
| 15:30.13 | head8debian | Hmm. |
| 15:30.42 | deedaah | pls point to instructions to expand dedicated partiton for root |
| 15:30.50 | head8debian | You could point /etc/apt/sources.list to the foash drive. |
| 15:30.54 | head8debian | flash* |
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| 15:31.19 | zylinx | i was thinking that, i will quickly try |
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| 15:31.33 | rollitup | markybob, I am able to connect via the terminal on the vps , however when I try to connect via the terminal or filezilla client from my local machine it doesn't connect |
| 15:32.40 | markybob | rollitup, i don't know how to help you there. seems like a firewall/network issue |
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| 15:33.26 | shay_shay | rollitup: have you tried sftp ? It should work out of the box if you can ssh you can usually sftp |
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| 15:33.49 | shay_shay | If not it"s a setting in sshd_config |
| 15:34.05 | Silicium_ | i have a strange issue, after upgrading from 7 to 8, as soon as i try to connect to a debian server using apt-get, the system will connect, receive a few packets and then blocks somehow the ip (no route to host) this will stay for the partical address until /etc/init.d/networking restart.... If i change the address in sources.list, i can connect again, but only for a few packets too! it was a plain new 7.9 system, so i reinstalled the system and upgraded agai |
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| 15:35.01 | rollitup | markybob, ufw status gives me this http://pastie.org/10439740 |
| 15:35.14 | rollitup | I don't think port 22 is blocked |
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| 15:36.14 | markybob | rollitup, open 990 |
| 15:36.31 | markybob | rollitup, and 21 |
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| 15:36.55 | Riastradh | n/part #debian |
| 15:36.57 | ChrisH | Silicium_: IIRC, there was some issues with MTU in the past |
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| 15:37.29 | Silicium_ | mtu is 1500 and the host in not connected from DSL. |
| 15:37.49 | Silicium_ | ChrisH: what do you exactly mean with "problems"? |
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| 15:38.34 | rollitup | markybob, it worked only by opening 21 |
| 15:38.48 | markybob | rollitup, great |
| 15:38.58 | rollitup | do you suggest I need to open 990 too ? |
| 15:38.59 | ChrisH | try ping the server in parallel to see if "only" the apt-get flow gets involved or all is blocked. "problems" a bell rings somwhere inside with this error description = thats all I cann say |
| 15:39.23 | Silicium_ | there is nothing blocked, the route is gone |
| 15:39.24 | markybob | rollitup, yes, if you want encryption |
| 15:39.28 | rollitup | ok |
| 15:39.53 | Silicium_ | i mean not physicaly but for the specified address, the packet will not leave the system! |
| 15:40.29 | ChrisH | Silicium_: fail2ban? |
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| 15:40.45 | Silicium_ | ChrisH: outbound? |
| 15:41.06 | Silicium_ | anyway i havent installed and hosts.deny is clean |
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| 15:41.28 | Silicium_ | and as soon as networking is restarted, it works again! |
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| 15:41.41 | ChrisH | Silicium_: you mentioned "the packet will not leave the system" did you proove via tcpdump? |
| 15:41.50 | Silicium_ | yes |
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| 15:42.49 | ChrisH | Silicium_: I assume you started from bottom, like ethtool and switchlogs for cable issues or 100/1000MBits negotitaion issues |
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| 15:43.09 | rollitup | markybob, I appreciate your help :) |
| 15:43.20 | markybob | rollitup, you're welcome :) |
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| 15:43.32 | Silicium_ | only arp requests |
| 15:44.41 | deedaah | on dist-upgrade wheezy to jessie after some trouble now this! ... any advice? : "Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.16.0-4-amd64_3.16.7-ckt11-1+deb8u4_amd64.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)" |
| 15:45.02 | Silicium_ | ok i can now reproduce it for google to, i just sent a "ping" to a google host, and after a few packets, there will be no packets routed outside the system again |
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| 15:47.26 | head8debian | zylinx: Did it work? |
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| 15:47.34 | Shanx | hello |
| 15:47.38 | rollitup | markybob, I am able to download files but when uploading files i get critical file transfer error neither can I change Dir permissions, is there any setting needed to enable this ? |
| 15:48.03 | Shanx | my awesome conf (in $HOME/.config/awesome) is not used by awesome |
| 15:48.16 | Shanx | which read the conf in /etc/xdg/awesome |
| 15:48.37 | zylinx | head8debian: i cant figure out how to do it lol |
| 15:48.45 | Shanx | in the man of awesome, it says that awesome should read my conf if presents |
| 15:48.47 | deedaah | ah! on 'apt-get -f install' ... kernel unpacking stalls with "failed to write (No space left on device)" ... any debia specific tricks toupdate partition sizes |
| 15:48.53 | deedaah | ? |
| 15:48.54 | Shanx | why doesn't it work ? |
| 15:49.14 | markybob | rollitup, sounds like just a chmod/chown problem. |
| 15:49.23 | rollitup | ok |
| 15:49.44 | head8debian | zylinx: Uhm. ;) Let mee do some looking. |
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| 15:50.55 | shay_shay | deedaah: you might want to boot to a live system and resize with gparted. Backup first |
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| 15:51.24 | head8debian | zylinx: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList What you need is close to the bottom of the page. |
| 15:52.16 | shay_shay | Actually you might be able to resize those partitions live but without knowing anything about your partition scheme I can't say deedaah |
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| 15:52.51 | zylinx | head8debian: something like sudo apt-cdrom -m -d /media/usb0 add ? |
| 15:52.51 | dutchfish | shay_shay, depends on how your partition layout has been done. if it is a clean machine with started / only one partition, you might get around by cleaning the cache to have just enough to complete the update and then look at extending your partition. |
| 15:53.02 | Silicium_ | :( |
| 15:53.10 | zylinx | hmmm |
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| 15:53.21 | deedaah | shay_shay: just looked at this rescued machine ...it appears 'pvdisplay' outputs |
| 15:53.42 | Sago7 | hi |
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| 15:54.24 | head8debian | zylinx: I think so. Why the -m paremeter? |
| 15:54.42 | zylinx | not sure i found it on googe xD |
| 15:54.47 | zylinx | i wont use it |
| 15:55.12 | head8debian | Yeah, i'd leave it out unless you know what it does. :) |
| 15:55.14 | shay_shay | dutchfish: yes good point about the cache clearing cc: deedaah |
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| 15:55.37 | deedaah | shay_shay: pvdisplay gives ' PV Name - /dev/sda5 VG Name - debian PV Size -148.81 GiB / not usable 2.00 MiB ...' I see this is LVM territory ...any advice where to look up whats next? |
| 15:55.45 | dutchfish | shay_shay, oops, my mistake in addressing the right person, sorry |
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| 15:56.34 | dutchfish | deedaah, what virt layer has been used? |
| 15:56.38 | dabndafhayewsahf | How do I change a LUKS passphrase? |
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| 15:56.49 | deedaah | dutchfish: pls elaborate ...how to cache clear ....apt-get something? |
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| 15:57.40 | dutchfish | deedaah, clear cache: aptitude clean && aptitude update | then, you can retry the force install option |
| 15:57.51 | markybob | dabndafhayewsahf, you google it. first response. sudo cryptsetup -y luksAddKey ENCRYPTED_PARTITION && sudo cryptsetup luksRemoveKey ENCRYPTED_PARTITION |
| 15:57.52 | srg | dabndafhayewsahf: cryptsetup luksChangeKey |
| 15:57.58 | deedaah | dutchfish: new topic altogether this LVM ...I now its good ... how do i find which virtual layer? |
| 15:57.59 | dutchfish | deedaah, also check /tmp |
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| 15:58.27 | deedaah | dutchfish: will try cache clear for now. brb |
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| 15:58.34 | markybob | dabndafhayewsahf, you can also use gnome-disk-utility |
| 15:59.04 | ira_gershwin | hi all: i'm running debian testing and notice that even after i ran an upgrade, i get lib conflicts between aptitude and gparted |
| 15:59.05 | dutchfish | deedaah, could be anything like xen, virtualbox whatever, xen normally has clientside install logic or at least a recognizable backend setup (xen docs) |
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| 15:59.48 | ira_gershwin | anyone know if i'm missing something like a dist-upgrade equivalent on ubuntu? |
| 16:00.07 | srg | ira_gershwin: yeah, that happened to me too. I forget what I did to fix it. I use the manual dep settings in aptitude and found an option that worked. |
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| 16:00.16 | AvatarA | that's life on testing ira_gershwin :) |
| 16:00.19 | zylinx | head8debian: it worked but only with -m, if i dont use it it unmounts the "cdrom" and "waits for disc" |
| 16:00.20 | srg | ira_gershwin: Or, I might have uninstalled it and it's deps, then reinstalled it. |
| 16:00.26 | dutchfish | deedaah, last but not least, lvm is also used without a vm |
| 16:00.30 | head8debian | zylinx: Ok. |
| 16:00.34 | ira_gershwin | in my case, i don't have gparted on this machine |
| 16:00.36 | head8debian | zylinx: Good. |
| 16:00.45 | ira_gershwin | but i dream of having it |
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| 16:00.55 | AvatarA | if package1 depends on lib1 and updatedpackage2 depends on lib1updated there will be conflicts |
| 16:01.05 | ira_gershwin | yeah that's my situation |
| 16:01.09 | dutchfish | deedaah, start with pvdisplay and lvdisplay |
| 16:01.09 | ira_gershwin | but my understanding of testing |
| 16:01.11 | zylinx | head8debian: but KDE still asks me to insert a CD x( |
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| 16:01.15 | ira_gershwin | was they should all be part of the same libgraph |
| 16:01.24 | zylinx | when i try install KDE * |
| 16:01.37 | ira_gershwin | i thought apt's whole job was to manage such lib version conflicts |
| 16:01.38 | AvatarA | you just have to wait until package1 gets upgraded too |
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| 16:01.51 | ira_gershwin | hmm ok, i see |
| 16:02.03 | ira_gershwin | i would have expected that in sid, but am surprised that's the case in testing |
| 16:02.07 | greenman | Alright. I'm back with a new unique (I think) problem from updating :D |
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| 16:02.21 | ira_gershwin | i thought testing was automagically snapshotted by robots at healthy intervals |
| 16:02.23 | srg | ira_gershwin: I have gparted installed on my machine just fine |
| 16:02.29 | greenman | I updated from 5 - 6 - 7. And now it wont' boot. kernel panic |
| 16:02.31 | srg | ira_gershwin: no, it's not "snapshotted" |
| 16:02.38 | AvatarA | even more so on testing ira_gershwin |
| 16:02.41 | srg | ira_gershwin: see #debian-next on OFTC for help with testing |
| 16:03.03 | greenman | Kernel Panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 16:03.09 | zylinx | head8debian https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/zp4b2Yts/ |
| 16:03.16 | ira_gershwin | would you guys recommend me upping to sid? i run that on some other machines. i have no real stability requirements |
| 16:03.39 | AvatarA | what is that 5 -6 -7? |
| 16:03.49 | greenman | AvatarA: from 5 to 6 to 7 |
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| 16:04.01 | greenman | I'm going to 8, but not booting is a problem ;) |
| 16:04.04 | AvatarA | aaa, ok |
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| 16:05.10 | AvatarA | ira_gershwin, if stability is not an issue then yeah, sid gets faster upgrades |
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| 16:05.53 | AvatarA | greenman, that seems like a complex issue to debug with all those upgrades |
| 16:06.06 | ira_gershwin | AvatarA, i'm mostly curious because this is my first encounter with a lib conflict like this; do you think this would happen more or less frequently in sid relative to testing? |
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| 16:06.43 | AvatarA | all I can say is that if I can remember correctly I got a similar kernel panic when grub.cfg was incorrectly configured |
| 16:06.57 | greenman | AvatarA: well I didn't have a booting issue going from 5 to 6 :D |
| 16:07.00 | AvatarA | a root= after the vmlinuz line |
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| 16:07.15 | AvatarA | so the kernel didn't know what to mount as the root partition |
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| 16:07.34 | greenman | Hmm.. I'll check that. The last time something like this happened it was because it wasn't loading the ext4 module, so that was the first thing I tried |
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| 16:07.42 | greenman | I'll check grub conf |
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| 16:08.21 | AvatarA | ext4 is a possility too especially since you probably migrated from ext3 given the older debian |
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| 16:08.40 | zylinx | head8debian: dont worry about it though :) thanks for the help so far! i will tinker with it for a while and if i dont get it right i will remove the entries from sources and use net. |
| 16:09.31 | ira_gershwin | anyway thanks for your insight AvatarA; i'm going to try monkeying with the depends a bit |
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| 16:11.04 | ira_gershwin | back: just wanted to let everyone know that using apt-get instead of aptitude worked |
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| 16:11.29 | ira_gershwin | was just a special case of lib "conflicts" because aptitude was one of the conflicting packages itself |
| 16:11.37 | ira_gershwin | i thought the whole thing seemed unprecedented |
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| 16:13.34 | head8debian | zylinx: :-) |
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| 16:14.36 | greenman | I can't find a grub.cnf... |
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| 16:16.02 | g00se | /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? |
| 16:16.12 | g00se | (For grub 2) |
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| 16:16.55 | greenman | yeah, it's not there. I wonder if that's where part of the problem comes from... |
| 16:17.06 | AvatarA | ira_gershwin, apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
| 16:17.31 | AvatarA | greenman, if you're missing grub.cfg and grub is your bootloader, certainly the problem :D |
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| 16:17.41 | deedaah | dutchfish, shay_shay : I'm going to restart machine and then see what hours of dist-upgrade has achieved .. will look up LVM stuff later ... hopefully cache clearance worked just enough to complete iupgrade on restart. Thanks |
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| 16:23.14 | greenman | Any idea how to figure out why eth0 won't come up? Nothing in the logs... |
| 16:23.17 | greenman | Just said failed |
| 16:23.28 | greenman | which makes it hard to get updated. ;) |
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| 16:25.40 | greenman | looks like it's having a problem with dhclient |
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| 16:25.52 | rysiek|pl | ohai |
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| 16:26.24 | rysiek|pl | looking for a suggestion how to check if a connection is established with a particular host on a particular port |
| 16:26.44 | rysiek|pl | I can do this via nmap, but am looking for something simpler |
| 16:27.13 | g00se | netstat? |
| 16:27.45 | rysiek|pl | netstat will tell me if there are *established* connections |
| 16:28.12 | rysiek|pl | what I want to do is to test given host:port combination to see if I can connect via TCP/IP -- nothing more, nothing less |
| 16:28.15 | g00se | greenman: that usually appears in /var/log/syslog (for wheezy and earlier anyway) |
| 16:28.35 | g00se | >>how to check if a connection is established with a particular host |
| 16:28.44 | rysiek|pl | I have a database server behind a firewall and need a simple command to check if the TCP/IP side of things is AOK before I try connecting via a client library |
| 16:28.52 | AvatarA | netcat? |
| 16:29.02 | baegle | telnet? |
| 16:29.03 | rysiek|pl | g00se: my bad for phrasing it that way the first way round |
| 16:29.05 | AvatarA | you want to see if you CAN connect? |
| 16:29.06 | rysiek|pl | hmmm |
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| 16:29.40 | rysiek|pl | AvatarA: netcat will not tell me if the connection is established |
| 16:29.48 | rysiek|pl | i.e. no difference between open and filtered |
| 16:29.52 | greenman | it looks like ifup is doing the dhclient command wrong |
| 16:29.58 | AvatarA | it will |
| 16:30.19 | rysiek|pl | AvatarA: ok, I'm doing nc myhost portnumber |
| 16:30.21 | greenman | how do I make it do the dhclient right? |
| 16:30.23 | AvatarA | look at it's command line switches |
| 16:30.27 | g00se | I don't see the point of connecting twice |
| 16:30.33 | greenman | AvatarA: oh you weren't talking to me ;) |
| 16:30.35 | rysiek|pl | it just hangs there (waiting for my input) |
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| 16:31.23 | AvatarA | try verbose |
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| 16:31.40 | rollitup | markybob, if you are still around when I connect to the vsftp via filezilla with setting Encryption:use explicit FTP over TLS if avavilable just after the Welcome message it says "Status: Insecure server, it does not support FTP over TLS" so do i use Port 990 in filezilla ? |
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| 16:32.15 | rysiek|pl | AvatarA: aah, okay, I got it |
| 16:32.25 | rysiek|pl | AvatarA: -w <timeout> was the charm |
| 16:32.38 | rysiek|pl | I missed it while reading the manpage the first time |
| 16:32.41 | rysiek|pl | thanks! |
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| 16:33.01 | AvatarA | np |
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| 16:33.41 | markybob | rollitup, did you create a certificate and configure vsftpd to use it? |
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| 16:34.03 | rollitup | no |
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| 16:34.40 | rollitup | can you suggest me an article if you know which I can follow ? |
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| 16:35.40 | markybob | rollitup, basically something like this https://paste.debian.net/313081/ |
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| 16:36.37 | jhutchins | rollitup: http://wiki.vpslink.com/Configuring_vsftpd_for_secure_connections_(TLS/SSL/SFTP) https://www.howtoforge.com/setting-up-vsftpd-tls-on-debian-squeeze |
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| 16:37.17 | rollitup | thanks markybob and jhutchins very much appreciated and also great to learn new things |
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| 16:46.11 | deedaah | I have newly upgraded to jessie (from wheezy) system ... yipee! remaining issue is annoying error with apt-get ... 'W: Failed to fetch ftp://free.hands.com/debian/dists/jessie/updates/main/source/Sources Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' [IP: 78.129.164.123 21] -- any clues what needs changed where?' |
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| 16:47.54 | markybob | deedaah, that url doesn't exist |
| 16:48.00 | baegle | You have a source defined in your /etc/apt/sources.list or sources.list.d that references free.hands.com which does not appear to provide a repository for jessie at that URL |
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| 16:48.57 | jhutchins | deedaah: In fact, that server may be down. |
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| 16:49.35 | deedaah | I did mess about with Repositories ...then uninstalled Synaptic ... omehow it seems to have stuck in .. where can I change it automatially than having to type in manualy? |
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| 16:52.34 | markybob | deedaah, why are you opposed to fixing this "manually" ? |
| 16:52.52 | jhutchins | He should just click the "fix apt" button. |
| 16:53.54 | deedaah | markbob: guide me please. I have sources,list opened in pico. what should i replace hands.com ... with? |
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| 16:54.21 | markybob | !sources |
| 16:54.21 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 8 "Jessie" has three lines: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main" "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <jessie/updates> <jessie-updates> <mirrors> and "man sources.list". |
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| 16:55.16 | deedaah | markybob: I have aptitude too ... can you guide me using aptitude ...less error prone I suppose |
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| 16:56.12 | markybob | deedaah, that matters not when it comes to sources or what dpkg just told you. |
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| 16:56.53 | deedaah | markybob: just noticed that dpkg was talking to me :) following instructions. thanks |
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| 17:02.10 | deedaah | markybob: 'aptitude update' finished errorless with this last line 'Current status: 1 update [+1], 39375 new [+38593].' ...whats the +1 signify? |
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| 17:11.38 | sparky4 | http://4ch.mooo.com/4/irq |
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| 17:11.48 | sparky4 | damn irq conflicts!!! |
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| 17:13.38 | deedaah | where is a central debian place for localisation ... or language packs ?... desperately trying to find way to install systewide Tamil support in jessie |
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| 17:17.10 | deedaah | rephrase earlier question ...sorry - can debian locales be set for unsual languages like Tamil ? (others like Ubuntu seem to have patched this in as a feature?) |
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| 17:20.23 | babilen | deedaah: There is Tamil support in Debian. As I do not speak it I have never tried it, but there are definitely related packages available. |
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| 17:23.29 | markybob | deedaah, probably just as simple as sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 17:27.23 | deedaah | babilen: when I looked around in wheezy there seemed to be support for iceweasle and openoffice individually . looking for more integrated and elegant solution ...say like for 'fr' |
| 17:27.40 | deedaah | markybob: wouldn't 'dpkg-reconfigure' switch over entirely to a new locate? ... if so whats needed is Tamil support installed but available in a pull down menu |
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| 17:28.55 | Onyx47 | Hi all, I'm trying to get Intel 3160 wireless card working on jessie on a Lenovo Z70-80. I have the firmware module installed, it loads properly, but can't get interface to show. |
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| 17:29.32 | Onyx47 | There's no GUI feedback on hitting the software switch, but rfkill shows that it's working, I think. Any ideas? |
| 17:30.13 | SynrG | 'interface to show' where? |
| 17:30.53 | Onyx47 | iwconfig, ifconfig, network manager, none of them show it |
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| 17:30.59 | babilen | judd: info task-tamil |
| 17:31.00 | judd | Package task-tamil (tasks, optional) in jessie/amd64: Tamil environment. Version: 3.31+deb8u1; Size: 0.9k; Installed: 21k |
| 17:31.02 | ipv4hermit | I copied my home directory from a Linux Mint Debian Edition (based on debian testing) to jessie. I think this has given me a problem on jessie on the bash terminal. on bash sometimes I type a command and the first time I push enter on it it doesn't update the screen. I have to push enter twice for me to get the result of the command. any idea which config file I should be looking at? |
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| 17:31.22 | Onyx47 | also, bluetooth CLI seems to connect to the interface, but blueman can't turn it on it seems |
| 17:31.24 | babilen | deedaah: Check out the "task-tamil" and related packages (apt-cache show task-tamil) |
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| 17:32.35 | deedaah | markybob: reconfigure-dpkg locales done. There were two locales for India and Sri Lanka ... I probably will have to restart X or whatever is GUI layer now ...looks like in the correct direction. |
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| 17:33.26 | deedaah | babilen: thanks, will do once I reload the guo layer to see what happened with dpkg-reconfigure. |
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| 17:34.18 | Nomenclatura | Hola. I want to install Debian to an USB without booting into install media ala Arch/Gentoo. Is there an official/simple way to do this on Debian? |
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| 17:35.36 | Nomenclatura | this is: mount /dev/myusb /tmp/usbdir && pacstrap /tmp/mysub base && chroot /tmp/myusb |
| 17:35.41 | SynrG | Onyx47: sorry, can't really take the investigation any further. gearing up to leave. hopefully someone else has ideas |
| 17:36.02 | Onyx47 | no probs, thanks anyway SynrG |
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| 17:38.59 | jmacdonald | I don't have a debian system handy.. but there is a bug in an ubuntu package. i was wondering if its upstream from us. i think it is. |
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| 17:39.13 | jmacdonald | the snort package does not include things like u2spewfoo etc. |
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| 17:39.54 | jmacdonald | ah, i found the report. |
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| 17:40.35 | jmacdonald | and its fixed. disregard! |
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| 17:40.47 | jhutchins | ipv4hermit: The first thing to try would be to create a new user and see if the problem happens with default debian settings. |
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| 17:42.34 | ipv4hermit | jhutchins: that's a great idea. thank you |
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| 17:45.04 | Onyx47 | ok, apparently the firmware package in repos was too old, unpacked the proper .ucode file from kernel.org, works now |
| 17:45.21 | deedaah | babilen: installed file size of 21 kB for 'https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/task-tamil/filelist' suggests need to participate in this placeholder(?) project. Where does localisation support for Debian happen? |
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| 17:57.34 | ipv4hermit | jhutchins: I logged in as another user and the terminal has the same behavior. |
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| 17:59.36 | rollitup | markybob, I have created the certificate and also configured vsftpd.conf to use it and now when I connect using Filezilla it just keeps hanging up on "Failed to retrieve directory listing" |
| 17:59.56 | ipv4hermit | jhutchins: it's hard to even explain, I type into the terminal and the terminal output doesn't always update right away. it could be with commands on the shell or it could be in vim. just anything I do in the terminal. |
| 18:00.43 | rollitup | and in the vsftpd.log it gives this error mssg ""Connection terminated without SSL shutdown - buggy client?" |
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| 18:01.30 | jhutchins | ipv4hermit: Sounds like you might have a load problem. Does it happen in a raw console (Ctrl-Alt-F1)? |
| 18:01.50 | jhutchins | ipv4hermit: Take a look at 'top" and see if something is burning a lot of CPU. |
| 18:02.05 | jhutchins | ipv4hermit: Also make sure you're not swapping for some reason. |
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| 18:04.02 | ipv4hermit | jhutchins: it doesn't happen in the raw console. |
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| 18:04.25 | ipv4hermit | jhutchins: the top command doesn't show any process going above 6% CPU |
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| 18:10.17 | flyx | Hi folks! I installed mailman on stretch and wonder which user it uses, as the standard user "mailman" didn't get created when installing the package |
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| 18:11.55 | jelly | flyx: "list" |
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| 18:13.15 | jelly | flyx: the user and group exists by default on debian, it's not generated at install time |
| 18:13.26 | flyx | jelly: ah okay, thanks |
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| 18:17.09 | WangDang | I have a problem with tftp. The client times out due to a lack of response from the server. /var/log/syslog on the server shows a bunch of "in.tftpd[6518]: connection refused from 192.168.192.1" messages corresponding to the retrys of the client. The funny thing is that it should say "...refused from 192.168.193.6". 192.168.193.6 is the ip the client should be claiming to be at. 192.168.192.1 is the tftpd server's own address. Where I'm stuck is how |
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| 18:18.54 | airwave_ | I just installed Debian for the first time on a new pc. I'm using xfce, and when I resize and drag windows it goes insanely slow. Any ideas on what the problem could be? |
| 18:19.32 | mtn | airwave_, video driver would be my first thought |
| 18:20.21 | ira_gershwin | airwave_, i have the same setup and as i recall xfce isn't hardware accelerated |
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| 18:21.03 | airwave_ | mtn: I just did the reccomended installation, how do I know what driver I should be using if not the one it installed? |
| 18:21.20 | mtn | airwave_, you would use the debian wiki to check |
| 18:21.55 | ira_gershwin | airwave_, see what you get from "lspci | grep -i graphic" |
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| 18:22.32 | ira_gershwin | i imagine xfce is using your integrated controller |
| 18:22.33 | airwave_ | ira_gershwin: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics (rev 09) |
| 18:22.48 | mtn | airwave_, then you have the correct driver |
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| 18:23.03 | markybob | ira_gershwin, xfce does use hardware acceleration via it's built in compositing feature |
| 18:23.06 | crhylove | Anybody know how to setup a full /16 in isc-dhcp-server ? |
| 18:23.33 | crhylove | Would this work: range 10.99.0.2 10.99.255.255; ? |
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| 18:23.45 | ToHellWithGA | abrotman: had to run to a meeting. the mac mini is x86 with two hard drives set up as mirrored RAID - is it possible to unset that option so that I can install debian on the second drive, copy my home directory over, wipe the first drive, and re-setup mirrored RAID? |
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| 18:24.18 | mtn | airwave_, sometimes debian stable is a little old for newer hardware, so if that is a new card, it may not be running as well as it could |
| 18:24.35 | ira_gershwin | airwave_, this looked pertinent http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=120925 |
| 18:24.48 | ira_gershwin | same chip as yours |
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| 18:26.49 | ira_gershwin | as mtn mentioned above, you may want to consider switching to testing |
| 18:26.55 | ira_gershwin | after an apt upgrade |
| 18:27.00 | ira_gershwin | things may just work out of the box |
| 18:27.04 | ira_gershwin | that's been the case for me at least once in the past |
| 18:27.39 | airwave_ | ira_gershwin: Hmm, doesn't look like they had much luck in that thread. Maybe I'll just quickly jump ship back to mint or elementary |
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| 18:28.08 | crhylove | always recommends jumping ship to mint. Unless it's a server. In which case I recommend sticking with wheezy. |
| 18:28.41 | crhylove | I really like LMDE on the desktop. It's pretty incredible. |
| 18:28.52 | rollitup | markybob, I am stuck again connecting using TLS |
| 18:29.15 | airwave_ | crhylove: Yeah, I've been using mint for the past year. I kind of wanted to try out something new though |
| 18:29.19 | ira_gershwin | airwave_, before you do that i'd at least give testing a go by changing your /etc/apt/sources.list and running an update/upgrade |
| 18:29.27 | ira_gershwin | it'd take maybe an hour |
| 18:29.35 | markybob | rollitup, what's the problem? |
| 18:29.46 | ira_gershwin | i switched to debian a year or so ago |
| 18:29.58 | ira_gershwin | and it's been much better than the ubuntu-based ones i came from |
| 18:30.08 | ira_gershwin | stable's just mostly used for servers |
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| 18:30.23 | crhylove | airwave_: LMDE or a different version? |
| 18:30.24 | ira_gershwin | whereas testing/sid is what i've seen most desktop users running |
| 18:31.01 | ira_gershwin | here's my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 18:31.06 | ira_gershwin | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free |
| 18:31.07 | markybob | rollitup, i can show you my vsftpd.conf. that might help you out. https://paste.debian.net/313102/ |
| 18:31.41 | markybob | rollitup, i don't have chroot ...but it uses encryption |
| 18:31.55 | rollitup | i generated the certificate and also edited the vsftpd.conf , after that I tried connecting to the ftp using fileszilla but it keeps stuck on Retreiving directory listing and then timesout |
| 18:32.14 | airwave_ | crhylove, oh I was just using 17 |
| 18:32.23 | markybob | rollitup, well take a look at my config and see if it helps. we'll go from there |
| 18:33.05 | airwave_ | ira_gershwin: When you say update sources, do you mean to testing? |
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| 18:35.15 | crhylove | airwave_: Try LMDE x64 Mate edition. It's killer for me. All the sysvinit debian goodness, but in a very easy, fast, and extremely usable desktop. Best OS ever? |
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| 18:37.52 | markybob | rollitup, i have to go for a bit. have to go shopping to make dinner. try me later if you still need help |
| 18:38.03 | rollitup | thanks |
| 18:38.18 | zykotick9 | airwave_: re: crhylove's suggestion. LMDE is NOT debian, and doesn't have it's quality IMO. |
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| 18:39.27 | crhylove | zykotick9: Wheezy & Previous? I'd agree. Jessie? LOL Jessie has been an utter fail for me in my datacenters. |
| 18:39.51 | airwave_ | zykotick9: What's your suggestion then? Fight with debian to get the graphics working? |
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| 18:41.11 | zykotick9 | airwave_: I just wanted to give you another opinion on "LMDE = Best OS ever"... I haven't been following your issue, just saw the LMDE recommendation. Best of luck! |
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| 18:44.47 | flyx | so I set up exim and dovecot and configured exim to deliver mails with dovecot. however, that doesn't work because /var/log/dovecof.log is only writeable by root and therefore, dovecot delivery fails. should I change the file permissions? or will they be overridden by log rotation or something? |
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| 18:45.56 | petn-randall | flyx: Which release is this? |
| 18:46.01 | flyx | stretch |
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| 18:46.50 | flyx | perhaps I was too optimistic by copying my exim configuration from my previous system to debian and hoping it'll just work |
| 18:46.54 | petn-randall | !debian-next |
| 18:46.54 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net), *not* on Freenode. |
| 18:47.01 | petn-randall | flyx: ^^^^ |
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| 18:47.28 | petn-randall | flyx: I wouldn't let a stretch server face the internet, though. |
| 18:47.52 | xanthippe | setting debconf selection "gdm shared/default-x-display-manager select gdm" selects the correct entry on debconf, but it doesn't answer the question (press OK) so the menu still comes up. How do I get it to set gdm but not display the menu? |
| 18:47.59 | zykotick9 | airwave_: does the bot judd say anything about your graphics with the pciid? "/msg judd pciid XXXX:YYYY" |
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| 18:48.23 | flyx | petn-randall: well I'd rather use jessie, but it lacks the roundcube package for some reason |
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| 18:48.56 | petn-randall | ,checkbackport roundcube |
| 18:48.57 | judd | Backporting package roundcube in sid→jessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie. |
| 18:49.09 | petn-randall | flyx: just backport it yourself, it's much safer. |
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| 18:50.33 | flyx | that sounds like something I lack the knowledge to do. |
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| 18:51.21 | zykotick9 | flyx: see "/msg dpkg ssbp" for a quick primer |
| 18:52.12 | flyx | okay thanks, I'll try that |
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| 18:54.18 | ira_gershwin | airwave_, just got back. yes i mean if it were me i would "upgrade" to testing |
| 18:54.32 | ira_gershwin | i find testing to be very stable |
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| 18:57.41 | ira_gershwin | as someone else mentioned, graphics issues in particular can be a problem on stable |
| 18:57.43 | ira_gershwin | as they're stale |
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| 18:58.18 | greycat | Software versions in Jessie were frozen in November 2014. |
| 18:58.20 | jelly | ira_gershwin: that's why there are backports of specific components |
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| 18:58.36 | jelly | ,v xserver-xorg-video-intel |
| 18:58.37 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-video-intel on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:2.13.0-7; squeeze-backports: 2:2.15.0-3~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2:2.19.0-6; wheezy-backports: 2:2.21.15-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:2.21.15-2+b2; jessie-backports: 2:2.99.917-2~bpo8+1; sid: 2:2.99.917-2; stretch: 2:2.99.917-2 |
| 18:59.07 | jelly | eg. jessie-backports version of video-intel supports hardware that was released in Q1'2015 |
| 19:00.01 | ira_gershwin | what's the reward of using backports as opposed to just switching to testing? it's a more complex solution so i imagine there's a benefit |
| 19:00.06 | ira_gershwin | are you worried about stability? |
| 19:00.12 | greycat | The reward is the rest of your system is known to be stable. |
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| 19:00.54 | ira_gershwin | but what if you're mix 'n matching old libs with new applications or vice-versa? they've never been tested together, so i'm not sure that's really true |
| 19:01.08 | greycat | The point of backports is that you DON'T use new libs. |
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| 19:01.24 | ira_gershwin | so you're using old libs with new applications? |
| 19:01.35 | greycat | You just bring in the mininum required set of specific packages to solve your immediate problem. Then you get to test it. |
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| 19:01.53 | greycat | (And those packages are compiled against jessie's libs, not testing libs.) |
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| 19:02.06 | petn-randall | ira_gershwin: large parts of testing were not installable during the gcc5 transition, you probably don't want that on a server offering "stable" services. |
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| 19:02.39 | ira_gershwin | my understanding was that airwave_ has a user-facing desktop system |
| 19:02.55 | thonza | How to recover debian default desktop environment. |
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| 19:02.56 | ira_gershwin | i wasn't aware we were discussing a server use case |
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| 19:06.13 | SynrG | So desktop users expect less stability? If so, that's a sad state of affairs. While petn-randall meant well in referring to sever use case add an example where stability is particularly needed, that is by no means the only case where it is desirable. |
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| 19:06.26 | SynrG | As* an |
| 19:06.32 | jelly | ira_gershwin: the benefit is your system won't break horribly on updates |
| 19:07.16 | SynrG | Testing is for users who want to be involved in testing the next release. It's a commitment to participate in development |
| 19:07.18 | jelly | eg. like this: <eric9873232> OK, I run "testing" /amd64. I tried to install heimdall-flash. aptitude suggests to uninstall gnome, aptitude, and 50 others - I stopped that. |
| 19:07.24 | SynrG | That's not for everyone |
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| 19:08.46 | thonza | How to recover debian default desktop environment? i start x and went lockscreen and passwrod refuse so i press in other tty to restart and auto start x not work and now only wightblue screen and cursor appears. |
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| 19:10.14 | jelly | thonza: hmm. if you create a new user, log in as them and startx again, does this happen as well? |
| 19:10.16 | ira_gershwin | SynrG, i think desktop users are definitely often more willing to trade stability for latest features |
| 19:10.39 | greycat | If he hasn't rebooted, the original locked X session is probably still running. |
| 19:10.40 | ira_gershwin | i don't have any actually important files on my devbox that i couldn't redownload in an hour |
| 19:11.09 | cjdmax | irc |
| 19:11.21 | ira_gershwin | plus in this case he said he was considering going back to his previous distro, didn't seem like he wanted to muck with backports |
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| 19:11.33 | ira_gershwin | i figured the least effort solution would be to try out testing before he uninstalled |
| 19:11.37 | ira_gershwin | to see if it met his needs |
| 19:11.52 | greycat | installing a backport is way less work than upgrading to testing |
| 19:12.03 | jelly | the needs of a user unwilling to deal with broken system will not be met with testing |
| 19:12.08 | petn-randall | SynrG: I made no statement about desktop users. You're implying I said something like that. |
| 19:12.27 | SynrG | ira_gershwin: that's a very personal point of view and not helpful to project onto our users here. A massive user might try texting and find it works today, not knowing the hell it will put them through down the road. |
| 19:12.44 | SynrG | A naive* user |
| 19:13.00 | SynrG | Try testing* |
| 19:13.14 | petn-randall | chuckles. |
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| 19:13.25 | thonza | How to recover debian default desktop environment? |
| 19:13.37 | ira_gershwin | i've been using testing for over a year now and i have yet to encounter such a hell but perhaps i am just lucky |
| 19:13.39 | jelly | SynrG: there's a horrible, insensitive fat joke in there somewhere. |
| 19:13.40 | ira_gershwin | i only know what's worked fo rme |
| 19:13.41 | greycat | thonza: is it still running on Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F2, etc.? |
| 19:14.06 | jelly | ira_gershwin: you're lucky |
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| 19:14.20 | SynrG | I give up. Too much auto predict fail. Later |
| 19:15.25 | SynrG | ira_gershwin: that's the trouble with anecdotal evidence. Is not good at all for inferring what's best for users in general |
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| 19:16.01 | SynrG | Anyway. Out. |
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| 19:16.17 | petn-randall | SynrG: Laters |
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| 19:16.42 | thonza | How to recover debian default desktop environment? |
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| 19:16.50 | greycat | thonza: is it still running on Ctrl-Alt-F1, Ctrl-Alt-F2, etc.? |
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| 19:17.13 | ira_gershwin | i believe it would be on ctrl+alt+f7 by default |
| 19:17.19 | greycat | Not in jessie. |
| 19:17.23 | ira_gershwin | :~0 |
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| 19:17.30 | greycat | But sure, if it's an older release, Ctrl-Alt-F7 is likely. |
| 19:17.30 | thonza | Yes it was rhere |
| 19:17.31 | ira_gershwin | is it f1? |
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| 19:17.56 | gansta93 | http://a.pomf.cat/etpxvk.webm |
| 19:18.22 | netlar | ok, just installed Jessie, but how do I know choose between desktop environments, it just defaults to xfce |
| 19:18.24 | greycat | thonza: Your best bet is to type the password correctly to unlock the already-running session. If you can't do that, then try Ctrl-Alt-Backspace to kill that session's X server (may not be configured). |
| 19:18.41 | greycat | If you can't do THAT, just get to a Linux login prompt on a text console (Ctrl-Alt-F2 or whatever) and press Ctrl-Alt-Delete to reboot. |
| 19:18.46 | netlar | But I installed cinnamon and gnome, how can I now choose those |
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| 19:19.22 | ira_gershwin | netlar, you can install a login manager such as lightdm to choose what kind of session to start |
| 19:19.34 | netlar | ok thanks |
| 19:20.02 | netlar | During the install I should of choosen lightdm instead of gsm |
| 19:20.20 | ira_gershwin | i haven't used one in about six months so i'm a little out of date as to which is best |
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| 19:20.25 | ira_gershwin | but there are a few people like |
| 19:20.33 | netlar | Nevermind, got it so sorry |
| 19:20.43 | greycat | Well, during the install it's just gigantic tasks like "XFCE" and "GNOME". lightdm is a very small package. |
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| 19:21.03 | thonza | Just raboot my device but the default auto login to debian default desktop environment not edecute. |
| 19:21.43 | greycat | "default auto login" ...? |
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| 19:24.10 | thonza | Hah whet u install debian it will automatically login and open x but now to not do that. And if i use other user account and log in it only display basckground and cursor |
| 19:24.37 | greycat | I don't even know what you've done. :( |
| 19:24.40 | jelly | thonza: debian does _not_ autologin a user without password after installation |
| 19:25.21 | thonza | Yes it did open x |
| 19:26.04 | greycat | thonza: what version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:26.13 | thonza | In the installation options i select all passwords |
| 19:26.52 | thonza | And it open x |
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| 19:27.01 | thonza | the newest one |
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| 19:27.33 | jelly | thonza: do you happen to have the precise link to the installation medium .iso you used for installation? |
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| 19:28.12 | jelly | I'd be pretty surprised if password requirements changed recently |
| 19:28.31 | jelly | requirement for a user password* |
| 19:28.39 | greycat | I'm betting he has a "based on debian" install. |
| 19:28.44 | markybob | i'm on the debian-installer mailing list...haven't seen anything |
| 19:29.00 | thonza | How to recover debian default desktop environment? |
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| 19:29.47 | markybob | thonza, we're still trying to figure out what you're using |
| 19:29.48 | greycat | Undo your "auto login" and install a standard *dm package (gdm3, lightdm, something). |
| 19:29.54 | greycat | Or just run startx from the text console. |
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| 19:31.08 | thonza | When i run srartx only basckground and cursor appears but no interface |
| 19:31.50 | greycat | thonza: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:32.59 | thonza | I use newest debian netinst installation thing |
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| 19:33.12 | greycat | thonza: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 19:40.33 | ZenWalker | hello |
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| 19:41.07 | ZenWalker | Anybody knows howto to create patches for debian? |
| 19:42.04 | nodus | going to have to be a lot more specific ZenWalker |
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| 19:42.31 | markybob | ZenWalker, you're probably wanting #debian-mentors at OFTC https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMentorsFaq |
| 19:42.46 | ZenWalker | markybob: thanks a lot :) |
| 19:42.59 | ira_gershwin | what's the deal with moving away from freenode by the way? |
| 19:43.37 | markybob | ira_gershwin, that happened like 10 years ago |
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| 19:43.59 | markybob | ira_gershwin, https://www.debian.org/News/2006/20060604 |
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| 19:45.57 | Sky2939 | Hey guys, quick question... so i made a bunch of changes to my /etc/bash.bashrc, however, my changes aren't permanent and i need to enter "source /etc/bash.bashrc ~/bashrc" for bash to use what i have changed in bash.bashrc every time a new konsole instance is opened |
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| 19:46.01 | Sky2939 | Any idea why ;3 |
| 19:46.50 | greycat | That isn't even the right syntax to source two files. |
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| 19:47.44 | petn-randall | Sky2939: You have a ~/bashrc? You're missing a dot for it to work. |
| 19:48.05 | Sky2939 | pent-randall: Ah.. so it's only making a temporary change then? |
| 19:48.25 | Sky2939 | greycat: I have little experience with linux, let alone sourcing ;P so apologies |
| 19:48.38 | greycat | Sky2939: the thing is, you gave a command that you claim to be using, but it's not a command that does what you think it does. |
| 19:48.58 | greycat | Are you ACTUALLY typing "source /etc/bash.bashrc" and then "source ~/.bashrc" ? |
| 19:49.00 | Sky2939 | greycat: I just read it in the debian handbook x.x |
| 19:49.14 | Sky2939 | greycat: no, i issue it as one line |
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| 19:49.40 | greycat | Then that handbook has an error in it. |
| 19:49.50 | ira_gershwin | wow i didn't know that until now, markybob |
| 19:49.54 | ira_gershwin | so this channel is just a ghost? |
| 19:49.58 | Sky2939 | greycat: well, the example may not have been applied to the method i'm using it for x.x |
| 19:50.04 | greycat | That command will only source the first file (/etc/bash.bashrc) with ~/.bashrc as an argument (probably ignored). |
| 19:50.25 | markybob | ira_gershwin, eh. a lot of us are in both |
| 19:50.30 | Sky2939 | greycat: i basically made a bunch of changes to bashrc and want the changes the stick. The other strange part is, if i issue: . .bashrc this also reverts my changes |
| 19:50.56 | abrotman | ira_gershwin: there are more here than there, hardly a ghost |
| 19:50.57 | Sky2939 | greycat: so bash is getting it's variables from another source other than bashrc or something x.x |
| 19:51.03 | greycat | Sky2939: However, in Debian, /etc/bash.bashrc *should* be sourced by all NONlogin shells. So as long as your window manger is NOT launching a login shell when you open a terminal window, it should automatically read /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc |
| 19:51.18 | abrotman | granted, "more" is suspect, as there are many lurkers on both networks |
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| 19:51.19 | greycat | Sky2939: so then the question becomes, what is your window manager actually doing? |
| 19:51.40 | Sky2939 | greycat: whatever default jessie debian kde does x.x lol |
| 19:51.59 | Sky2939 | greycat: it's pretty much a fresh install too |
| 19:52.23 | greycat | I don't know kde. It is running a "bash" process or a "-bash" process or a "bash -login" process or...? |
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| 19:53.10 | Sky2939 | greycat: heh i honestly don't have enough linux experience to answer that question, but i'll give it my best shot. Sec |
| 19:54.14 | tremon | Sky2939: ps -ef | grep $$ should help |
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| 19:55.30 | greycat | You can also try "ps xf" and scroll through that to find an instance of bash that is a direct child of a konsole or other terminal. |
| 19:56.28 | Sky2939 | greycat: so here is the output.. of ps -ef | grep $$ http://pastebin.com/1gEDuhxz |
| 19:57.06 | greycat | that... does not look like "ps -ef" |
| 19:57.15 | tremon | that's ps ef, not -ef :) |
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| 19:57.48 | Sky2939 | LOL |
| 19:57.50 | Sky2939 | omg |
| 19:57.52 | Sky2939 | sorry |
| 19:57.54 | greycat | But it does say "/bin/bash" with no apparent -login argument, so I don't see why it would ignore /etc/bash.bashrc or ~/.bashrc |
| 19:57.59 | greycat | Both of those should be used. |
| 19:58.12 | Sky2939 | facepalm, no it's just using /bin/bash |
| 19:59.12 | greycat | Are you sure that whatever you're clicking in KDE is actually launching a NEW instance of bash, and not just re-drawing an existing one? |
| 20:00.29 | Sky2939 | even if it was redrawing an existing one... why would it ignore bashrc |
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| 20:00.50 | Sky2939 | isn't the existing one going on bashrc as well? :0 |
| 20:01.04 | greycat | Because bashrc files are only read when a new instance of bash is started, not when an old one is brought up out of hiding. |
| 20:01.27 | Sky2939 | meh, i've restarted the machine.. would that have force any existing instances to use bash.rc |
| 20:01.45 | greycat | yes |
| 20:01.58 | greycat | By virtue of the fact that there won't BE any "existing instances" left. |
| 20:02.16 | greycat | Any bash processes run after a reboot will by necessity be fresh ones. |
| 20:02.42 | Sky2939 | okay, i wasn't trying to be sarcastic, i honestly don't know and was just asking |
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| 20:03.44 | Sky2939 | hmmm |
| 20:03.52 | tremon | Sky2939: you can put echo commands in rc scripts, to verify whether it is read or not |
| 20:04.08 | greycat | (But remember to comment them out later.) |
| 20:04.29 | Sky2939 | but that i've pasted ef anyways, how do we remove all this stuff".ppm=01;35:*.tga=01;35:*.xbm=01;35:*.xpm=01;35:*.tif=01;35:*.tiff=" |
| 20:04.41 | Sky2939 | it's like it exists but i don't see it in bashrc |
| 20:04.55 | greycat | Those are bits of the process's environment. |
| 20:05.02 | greycat | That's what "e" (not "-e") does. |
| 20:05.10 | Sky2939 | hmmm |
| 20:06.56 | Sky2939 | SESSION_MANAGER=local/WinlelXP:@/tmp/ |
| 20:06.59 | Sky2939 | what that have anything to do with it |
| 20:07.06 | greycat | that's one of your environment variables |
| 20:07.08 | Sky2939 | that fact that it's running things out of temp |
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| 20:07.25 | greycat | You're reading way too much into it. |
| 20:07.38 | Sky2939 | okay so |
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| 20:08.10 | Sky2939 | /bin/bash receives it's parameters from bash.bashrc right? |
| 20:08.29 | greycat | Not parameters. It will, however, read /etc/bash.bashrc at startup. |
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| 20:08.39 | Sky2939 | yes and it does once |
| 20:08.47 | Sky2939 | but as soon as i issue the ls command, it reverts back |
| 20:08.54 | Sky2939 | until i issue the source command |
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| 20:09.03 | Sky2939 | then it goes back to the changes i set in bash.bashrc |
| 20:09.14 | greycat | So if you make a change to that file, you need to CLOSE that instance of bash and launch a new one. Or type "exec bash" to force a new one to be born in that same window. Or type "source ..." to make it read the file right now. |
| 20:09.35 | greycat | What do you mean "the ls command"? |
| 20:09.38 | greycat | What is reverting? |
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| 20:09.46 | Sky2939 | well i mean any command, doesn't have to be ls |
| 20:09.54 | greycat | What problem are you seeing? |
| 20:10.02 | Sky2939 | okay so for instance, at the bottom of my bashrc i have the following added |
| 20:10.18 | Sky2939 | echo -e "${LIGHTGRAY}";figlet "KONSOLE"; |
| 20:10.19 | Sky2939 | echo -ne "${red}Today is:\t\t${cyan}" `date`; echo "" |
| 20:10.19 | Sky2939 | echo -e "${red}Kernel Information: \t${cyan}" `uname -smr` |
| 20:10.19 | Sky2939 | echo -ne "${cyan}";upinfo;echo "" |
| 20:10.19 | Sky2939 | #echo -e "${cyan}"; cal -3 |
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| 20:10.49 | Sky2939 | lol i was kicked, sorry. ;x |
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| 20:10.57 | greycat | Sky2939: if you want a bunch of commands to be executed after everything you type, you have to place it into a specific bash variable. Not a file. |
| 20:11.10 | tremon | Sky2939: think different. in this context, bash isn't a "program you run" but the foundation that allows you to run other commands. It's always there (within your terminal), and starts only once, when you open the terminal. It's not started every time a command returns |
| 20:11.35 | Sky2939 | okay let me paste the bashrc |
| 20:11.37 | Sky2939 | 1 sec |
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| 20:11.40 | Sky2939 | erm pastebin rather |
| 20:11.43 | greycat | I should also think all that figlet/cyan/red crap will get VERY old VERY fast. |
| 20:12.02 | greycat | We don't really want to see any more. What came through before you were kicked is sufficient. |
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| 20:12.41 | greycat | If you want all that stuff to run after every command you type, you'll have to add some content to your PS1 variable, or to the PROMPT_COMMAND variable. |
| 20:12.50 | Sky2939 | http://pastebin.com/5VEQc7GH |
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| 20:13.14 | Sky2939 | and maybe, but i'm an artistic person and need some color in my life |
| 20:13.15 | Sky2939 | xD |
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| 20:14.35 | greycat | The simplest way as a beginner would be to put all of those commands that you want to run into a script. Put the script somewhere in your home directory and give it execute permissions. Then set PROMPT_COMMAND=$HOME/your_script in your ~/.bashrc file. |
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| 20:15.04 | Sky2939 | grecat: okay, that sounds very reasonable |
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| 20:16.02 | Sky2939 | i still think it's weird that my terminal displays 'konsole' with the figlet stuff upon initial execution but reverts back to default settings |
| 20:16.26 | greycat | The commands in bash.bashrc are only executed when the shell starts up, not after every command you type. |
| 20:16.35 | Sky2939 | ohhhhhhhh |
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| 20:17.52 | Sky2939 | then how are you suppose to add directory colors and what not. Debian's guide says add the following to the bottom of bashrc |
| 20:17.54 | Sky2939 | export LS_OPTIONS='--color=auto' eval "`dircolors`" alias ls='ls $LS_OPTIONS' |
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| 20:18.10 | Sky2939 | then apply changes by executing: source /etc/bash.bashrc ~/bashrc |
| 20:18.15 | Sky2939 | https://wiki.debian.org/BashColors |
| 20:18.23 | greycat | Those are environment variables that your shell passes along to ls (and everything else) whenever it runs ls (or anything else). |
| 20:18.45 | Sky2939 | then why aren't my mine sticking? |
| 20:18.52 | greycat | Oh cool, a URL! Now I can fix the bug. |
| 20:18.56 | Sky2939 | I'm looking for fliglet to execute everytime i type lmao |
| 20:19.17 | Sky2939 | I'm looking for all the other changes to stick, such as the way directory listings are displayed |
| 20:19.25 | Sky2939 | erm |
| 20:19.35 | Sky2939 | I'm not looking for fliglet to execute everytime i type** |
| 20:19.54 | sn0w3 | Installed Debian 8.1 now |
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| 20:20.00 | sn0w3 | Looks good |
| 20:20.06 | sn0w3 | Debian is best |
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| 20:20.21 | sn0w3 | I love the classic Linux feel |
| 20:20.37 | sn0w3 | Ubuntu = Windows 8 |
| 20:20.56 | sn0w3 | Debian = Windows XP |
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| 20:21.24 | wondiws | how can I find "untracked" files in a directory? Meaning files that do not belong in the package manager? |
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| 20:22.37 | tremon | wondiws: use dpkg -S, grep on "no path found" |
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| 20:24.14 | wondiws | tremon, thanks :) |
| 20:25.29 | greycat | wonders how many other horrible debian wiki pages there are, waiting to be fixed |
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| 20:25.46 | trem0r | g/re/p your arse off |
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| 20:29.55 | jhutchins | greycat: Divide by zero error. |
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| 20:30.16 | greycat | huh? |
| 20:30.56 | tremon | "infinite" :) |
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| 20:31.37 | petn-randall | jhutchins: Do you mean the division of labour? |
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| 20:33.59 | jhutchins | petn-randall: I think that would work too. |
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| 20:33.59 | petn-randall | TIL centrx hasn't tried turning it off and on again. |
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| 20:34.35 | Fjorgynn | sleep = 1; |
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| 20:39.26 | styks1987 | I have figured out how to create a jailed shell but I cannot figure out how to add the mysql command to it. |
| 20:39.40 | styks1987 | Anyone have a good article or suggested place to figure out how to do this? |
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| 21:00.35 | flyx | so I changed to stable and installed my exim/dovecot setup. I still have the problem that dovecot delivery doesn't work because /var/log/dovecot.log is only writable by root |
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| 21:05.42 | changnesia | hey guys. I'm using xdg-screensaver and I defined mod+z to activate it in i3, but the screen always activates right after it turns off. I'm suspecting it's because it registers the mod+z as a key stroke and wakes the screen. What can i do? |
| 21:06.57 | rainfyre | changnesia: I'd ask in the i3 room |
| 21:07.19 | changnesia | Oh, right. #i3, is it? |
| 21:07.25 | changnesia | or #i3wm? |
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| 21:09.40 | changnesia | found it |
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| 21:11.40 | cluelessperson | I cannot seem to install mysql-server on Debian 8.2 |
| 21:11.48 | cluelessperson | apt-get install mysql-server-5.6 not found |
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| 21:12.09 | styks1987 | cluelessperson: isn't it just mysql-server ? |
| 21:12.16 | greycat | Jessie has mysql-server-5.5 not -5.6 |
| 21:12.20 | cluelessperson | styks1987, doesn't work either. |
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| 21:12.41 | cluelessperson | I'd prefer to install 5.6, but neither of the three work. |
| 21:12.59 | flyx | well, seems like I can just configure syslog and everything works |
| 21:13.05 | greycat | ,v mysql-server |
| 21:13.06 | judd | Package: mysql-server on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security-lts: 5.1.73-1+deb6u1; wheezy: 5.5.44-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.44-0+deb7u1; jessie-security: 5.5.44-0+deb8u1; jessie: 5.5.44-0+deb8u1; stretch: 5.6.25-4; sid: 5.6.25-4 |
| 21:13.10 | markybob | cluelessperson, apt-get install mysql-server doesn't work? that's what you're saying? |
| 21:13.20 | cluelessperson | markybob, Yes. |
| 21:13.34 | greycat | Do you have a correct jessie sources.list? Did you run apt-get update? |
| 21:13.39 | cluelessperson | mysql-server /-5.5/-5.6 none of those works. apt-get install lamp-server works |
| 21:13.49 | cluelessperson | greycat, I did apt-get update, yes. |
| 21:13.56 | greycat | $ apt-cache show lamp-server |
| 21:13.56 | greycat | N: Unable to locate package lamp-server |
| 21:14.02 | markybob | cluelessperson, pastebin your sources |
| 21:14.03 | greycat | You aren't using jessie. |
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| 21:17.00 | cluelessperson | markybob, it only contains 'deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main' |
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| 21:21.29 | cluelessperson | greycat, I am using jessie. cat /etc/debian_version => 8.2 |
| 21:21.42 | greycat | then your sources.list has been altered somehow |
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| 21:23.32 | tremon | cluelessperson: if that's all your sources.list contains, you'll never be able to install anything |
| 21:23.52 | tremon | !tell cluelessperson about jessie sources.list |
| 21:24.19 | tremon | edit it to contain the three lines dpkg has given you and run apt-get update |
| 21:24.27 | cluelessperson | tremon, i'm wondering why it's so limited right off? |
| 21:24.43 | greycat | I'm wondering where you got "lamp-server" from. |
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| 21:25.09 | tremon | there is no install path that leads to a sources.list with only a deb-src line in it. Something or someone has edited it |
| 21:25.13 | markybob | cluelessperson, it's not |
| 21:26.03 | tremon | if you install without internet connectivity, you will end up with only a cdrom line in your sources.list, otherwise you will at least have two deb lines there |
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| 21:26.33 | cluelessperson | I swear to god, I installed from a cd iso, misread and didn't hit to use network apt repositories, went back into sources and uncommented it, that's all I did. |
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| 21:26.59 | cluelessperson | markybob, tremon and I'm sorry, I spoke incorrectly. tasksel install lamp-server was what works. silly |
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| 21:27.42 | tremon | I'm not criticizing, just not seeing the whole picture here |
| 21:27.48 | Lady_Aleena | Quick question, is Inkscape named Inkscape in Debians libraries? |
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| 21:28.10 | tremon | inkscape (without capitals) |
| 21:28.35 | Lady_Aleena | tremon, thanks. |
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| 21:29.50 | cluelessperson | tremon, I commented out the cdrom lines, the only other thing that exists, commented, is the security jessie apt-repo |
| 21:30.33 | greycat | cluelessperson: you should have what the bot said. At least TWO jessie "deb" lines, one for security, one for the main repository. |
| 21:30.36 | markybob | cluelessperson, you didn't even show the security |
| 21:30.52 | greycat | "deb-src" is optional |
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| 21:39.31 | tremon | cluelessperson: add the lines given to you by the bot (dpkg) |
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| 21:44.05 | styks1987 | can anyone provide guidance on how to add authorized keys to a users jailed shell account? |
| 21:44.22 | Tical- | cluelessperson: if you want I just installed Deb Jessie on my laptop, i can pass you my source.list file |
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| 21:44.34 | styks1987 | it seems /home/jails/home/user/.ssh/authorized_keys is not the right location? |
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| 21:46.00 | Tical- | styks1987: one sec |
| 21:46.05 | cluelessperson | Tical-, I appreciate that, but I don't understand why it's so messed up in the first place? |
| 21:46.47 | Tical- | cluelessperson: what do you mean by "messed up" |
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| 21:47.44 | Tical- | styks1987: try this https://www.zenutech.com/kb/article/how-to-enable-jailed-shell-access-with-authenticated-keys-authentication/ |
| 21:48.02 | Tical- | styks1987: that looks about what you may need to do, or may point you in the right direction |
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| 21:48.40 | styks1987 | Tical-: thanks, but the jailed shell user does not have the ability to run any commands |
| 21:48.57 | styks1987 | I want to do this from the root user |
| 21:48.58 | cluelessperson | Tical-, As in, I didn't do anything in partuclar that should have caused this, and I'm not sure how to fix it. |
| 21:49.30 | Tical- | styks1987: are you the jailed shell user? or the admmin? |
| 21:49.40 | styks1987 | admin creating the jailed shell user |
| 21:49.43 | Tical- | cluelessperson: i am sending you a PM with whaty my sources looks like |
| 21:49.53 | Tical- | # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.2.0 _Jessie_ - Official i386 xfce-CD Binary-1 20150906-10:01]/ jessie main |
| 21:49.56 | Tical- | #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 8.2.0 _Jessie_ - Official i386 xfce-CD Binary-1 20150906-10:01]/ jessie main |
| 21:49.59 | Tical- | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib |
| 21:50.02 | Tical- | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie main non-free contrib |
| 21:50.04 | Tical- | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free |
| 21:50.07 | Tical- | deb-src http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free |
| 21:50.09 | Tical- | # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile' |
| 21:50.12 | Tical- | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free |
| 21:50.14 | Tical- | deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ jessie-updates main contrib non-free |
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| 21:50.21 | abrotman | Tical-: use paste.debian.net |
| 21:50.39 | cluelessperson | Tical-, I think he meant to. o.o |
| 21:50.48 | abrotman | dpkg: tell cluelessperson about jessie sources.list |
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| 21:53.59 | styks1987 | I have tried the authorized keys in /home/user and /home/jails/home/user |
| 21:54.09 | styks1987 | I am following this guide http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/debian-ubuntu-restricting-ssh-user-session-to-a-directory-chrooted-jail/ |
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| 21:55.58 | Tical- | ok let me try this again |
| 21:56.03 | Tical- | styks1987: ok what exactly are you trying to do, are you creating the SSH Keys for them? |
| 21:56.31 | styks1987 | Tical-: thank you for your help, I have their public key. I want to add it to their authorized keys |
| 21:56.33 | Tical- | and when you are editing the authorize.keys file are you checking to make sure the permissions and ownership of the file is staying the same |
| 21:56.52 | styks1987 | the perms are 600 and are owned by the ssh user |
| 21:56.58 | Tical- | hmmm |
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| 21:57.28 | Tical- | styks1987: so when they try and connect using the key it is not working? |
| 21:57.40 | styks1987 | Tical-: it prompts for password |
| 21:57.45 | Tical- | hmmm |
| 21:57.53 | Tical- | did you configure the SSH Key with a passphrase |
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| 21:58.00 | styks1987 | is /home/jails/home/user the right directory? |
| 21:58.16 | styks1987 | no passphrase. I verified it on a non jailed user and it works |
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| 21:58.34 | Tical- | styks1987: i am not 100% i never had to manage jailed shell users from shell before, when I had to do it. I did so through cPanel....:/ |
| 21:58.49 | Tical- | does the user have a normal /home/user directory? |
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| 21:59.34 | styks1987 | no, but if I login with the password if I have a folder at /home/user it says not found but if I have a folder at /home/jails/home/user it finds that directory and writes a bash_history there |
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| 21:59.59 | Tical- | ok then that is going to have to be the right directory |
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| 22:00.23 | Tical- | styks1987: so when you put in the password and get in and type PWD it shows /home/jails/home/username right? |
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| 22:01.36 | styks1987 | well this user does not have that command |
| 22:01.45 | styks1987 | in fact, the only command I have allowed is mysql |
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| 22:02.09 | Tical- | styks1987: when you are makign the ssh connection what is the ssh command you use; like ssh user@domain - ssh.key |
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| 22:02.32 | styks1987 | I don't specify the key directly |
| 22:02.53 | Tical- | that may be the issue, try conjuring the key during the connection process as a test |
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| 22:03.03 | Tical- | see if you are still prompted for the password then |
| 22:03.23 | styks1987 | I cannot remember do I use the .pub or the plain id_rsa? |
| 22:03.36 | ProfessorKaos64 | if I already have packages in release_testing, can I easily move them with reprepro to the stable release channel in my personal repository? |
| 22:04.03 | Tical- | crap, well i got to split, but i will try and be back in a hour or so, if you do not have it figured out by then, I will see what i can help you do with that |
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| 22:12.38 | srg | Can I have both QEMU/KVM and VirtualBox installed on the same system? What about running at the same time? I'm not really sure how the kernel modules work or anything |
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| 22:28.16 | abrotman | srg: you oculd just try it and find out |
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| 22:30.16 | cluelessperson | Did I do something wrong? |
| 22:30.23 | cluelessperson | every other package I try to install can't be found. |
| 22:30.56 | cluelessperson | apt-get install mysql-server-5.6 apache2 php5-5.6 |
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| 22:41.08 | abrotman | cluelessperson: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:41.43 | cluelessperson | abrotman, I can't even install pastebinit, nor can I ssh into it because virtualbox port forwarding doesn't seem to work |
| 22:42.52 | philipp64|work | dpkg: are you a robot? |
| 22:42.54 | dpkg | philipp64|work: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 22:43.14 | philipp64|work | yup |
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| 22:48.26 | abrotman | cluelessperson: have you tried apt-get update ? |
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| 22:48.37 | abrotman | cluelessperson: then, apt-get install mysql-server |
| 22:49.27 | cluelessperson | abrotman, yes, I do that every time. |
| 22:49.37 | cluelessperson | abrotman, and yes, mysql-server installed, version 5. |
| 22:50.13 | cluelessperson | rather 5.5 |
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| 22:52.33 | g00se | Any ideas for a dialog package. the dialogs of which wouldn't look out of place popping up in Thunar? |
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| 22:56.00 | abrotman | cluelessperson: so that's the versoin for your versoin of Debian .. what's the problem? |
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| 22:57.27 | abrotman | judd: versions mysql-server |
| 22:57.28 | judd | Package: mysql-server on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security-lts: 5.1.73-1+deb6u1; wheezy: 5.5.44-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.5.44-0+deb7u1; jessie-security: 5.5.44-0+deb8u1; jessie: 5.5.44-0+deb8u1; stretch: 5.6.25-4; sid: 5.6.25-4 |
| 22:57.39 | foul_owl_ | Hi folks. vlc keeps segfaulting. Been having this issue for a few months now, through several vlc package upgrades. |
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| 23:01.53 | cluelessperson | abrotman, 5.6 is current, no? |
| 23:02.32 | themill | cluelessperson: no |
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| 23:04.22 | g00se | vlc --version |
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| 23:11.18 | ProfessorKaos64 | how can I move packages or copy them between dists with reprepro? |
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| 23:14.50 | bagbobilgins | like aptoncd, ProfessorKaos64? |
| 23:15.16 | ProfessorKaos64 | I'm not sure what aptoncd is, but I have two dists, brewmaster, brewmaster_testing, I want to move them out of brewmaster testing |
| 23:15.29 | ProfessorKaos64 | I tried to just include them from incoming/ but it complains bc they exist |
| 23:15.47 | srg | Uh, I installed "libvirt-daemon-system" (which pulled in policykit? - not sure what that is) and ended up getting this: https://paste.debian.net/313133/ |
| 23:15.49 | bagbobilgins | ahh, right, so you're actually running repos |
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| 23:15.56 | ProfessorKaos64 | yes |
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| 23:16.32 | bagbobilgins | I have literally not the foggiest notion... but I'll have a scan over some docs out of interest |
| 23:16.43 | ProfessorKaos64 | https://mirrorer.alioth.debian.org/reprepro.1.html |
| 23:17.19 | jordanm | srg: is dbus running? |
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| 23:18.19 | jordanm | srg: what version of debian are you using? |
| 23:18.23 | srg | jordanm: `systemctl status dbus.service` says it's been running for 10 hours. but it does show some log entries about "Failed to activate service 'org.freedesktop.PolicyKit1': timed out |
| 23:18.28 | srg | jordanm: stretch |
| 23:18.38 | bagbobilgins | To enable overrides, add the following to your conf/distributions file: |
| 23:18.39 | bagbobilgins | DebOverride: override.<osrelease> |
| 23:18.40 | bagbobilgins | DscOverride: override.<osrelease> |
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| 23:19.08 | bagbobilgins | is that the sort of thing, ProfessorKaos64? or is the whole repo going stable sort of thing? |
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| 23:19.34 | ProfessorKaos64 | well if I can at least copy them over .. http://packages.libregeek.org/SteamOS-Tools/ |
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| 23:19.46 | ProfessorKaos64 | they are in the pool, but under the testing dist |
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| 23:20.43 | bagbobilgins | or you could $repropro includedeb <osrelease> <debfile> #per item by the look of it |
| 23:21.09 | ProfessorKaos64 | yea and I get an error because it exists in the pool already |
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| 23:21.46 | ProfessorKaos64 | http://slexy.org/view/s21WaWLgnz |
| 23:22.12 | r00t-err0r | Hello, i cant find proper driver for my laptop bluetooth |
| 23:22.15 | r00t-err0r | Bluetooth: hci0: BCM: patch brcm/BCM43142A0-04ca-2006.hcd not found |
| 23:22.16 | ProfessorKaos64 | so I guess I need to remove them since the md5sums don't match |
| 23:22.33 | jordanm | srg: does journalctl -xb display anything different? |
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| 23:22.57 | themill | ProfessorKaos64: you can "reprepro copy" |
| 23:22.58 | bagbobilgins | https://wiki.debian.org/PartialBackportMirrorWithPackageApproval backporting worthwhile, ProfessorKaos64 |
| 23:23.01 | bagbobilgins | ? |
| 23:23.33 | jordanm | srg: oh, are you not using systemd? it looks like that installation was trying to install it |
| 23:24.03 | ProfessorKaos64 | it was my fault for not keeping the packages in incoming while I tested or somewhere |
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| 23:24.52 | ProfessorKaos64 | I might just rebuild the database |
| 23:24.53 | srg | jordanm: yeah, i'm using systemd |
| 23:25.30 | jordanm | perhaps it's a race condition of a systemd upgrade while installing polkit |
| 23:25.47 | jordanm | anyhow, it's likely a bug that should be reported if it hasn't been already |
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| 23:26.25 | srg | jordanm: hm ok |
| 23:27.05 | ProfessorKaos64 | I think I got it |
| 23:27.15 | ProfessorKaos64 | reprepro removefilter brewmaster_testing 'Section' |
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| 23:28.58 | ProfessorKaos64 | that worked |
| 23:29.10 | ProfessorKaos64 | readded the pkgs, and sync'd to my remote server |
| 23:29.26 | ProfessorKaos64 | whew |
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| 23:31.26 | frogdr | Alright, what did I do wrong? https://dl.pushbulletusercontent.com/hpbMSY0MkUpBMN9xpi1FKxnmfgVDXrW6/IMG_20150923_192909_463.jpg |
| 23:31.38 | frogdr | Just installed Debian, booting freezes at that. |
| 23:32.19 | cluelessperson | Thanks for the help you guys. |
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| 23:32.51 | cluelessperson | frogdr, freezes? looks like it's loading blocks |
| 23:33.02 | frogdr | cluelessperson: But I see no progress |
| 23:33.04 | frogdr | It just stays there |
| 23:33.07 | frogdr | the number doesn't change |
| 23:33.10 | cluelessperson | ah. |
| 23:33.19 | cluelessperson | I have to go, sorry |
| 23:33.26 | frogdr | nickname checks out |
| 23:33.31 | frogdr | Haha, see ya. |
| 23:33.35 | cluelessperson | it's 6:30, ride here |
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| 23:34.18 | srg | jordanm: how do I report teh bug? I've used reportbug before. Should I just paste the output of aptitude (in that pastebin) into the report? |
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| 23:34.46 | jordanm | srg: yes |
| 23:35.30 | nmschulte | I have my system setup with an unencrypted /boot, and an encrypted / (and swap). The initramfs is what prompts for my passphrase and subsequently unlocks the disk. Right now, when I boot the system, systemd spits out this message: [ 21.357445] systemd[1]: [/run/systemd/generator/systemd-cryptsetup@swap_crypt.service:13] Failed to add required mount for, ignoring: root_crypt |
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| 23:37.51 | nmschulte | swap_crypt is automatically unlocked from via /etc/crypttab after root_crypt is unlocked. I have a line in there for root_crypt as well -- perhaps I don't need that line, and that's what's causing the issue? I think GRUB/initramfs-tools use this to work their magic though... any advice? |
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| 23:38.38 | nmschulte | Both of the devices are properly unlocked and functioning, though. It's just this message is ultra annoying. |
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| 23:44.45 | frogdr | Errh |
| 23:44.46 | frogdr | Anyone? |
| 23:46.18 | TuxShells | frogdr looks like you need to clean the monitor :P Have you tested the hard drive for bad blocks? |
| 23:46.28 | frogdr | TuxShells: How can I do that? |
| 23:46.31 | frogdr | It's an SSD by the way |
| 23:47.24 | TuxShells | frogdr, besides booting to a live cd and using gsmartcontrol I am not sure (aside pulling the drive and testing on another machine) |
| 23:47.40 | frogdr | Well, I'm on Windows right now using the same drive |
| 23:47.58 | bagbobilgins | filthy dual-booting heathen |
| 23:48.08 | TuxShells | ^^ lol |
| 23:48.21 | bagbobilgins | >;) |
| 23:48.45 | Narcwhal | as a filthy dual-booting heathen myself, i am mildly offended but equally amused |
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| 23:49.50 | TuxShells | Don't dualbooot but just as guilty using a KVM and two boxes. |
| 23:50.33 | Algebr | I need to update some packages in debian but I have never dealed with apt-get 's packaging. I don't really feel like learning the mini configuration language, is there some tool that will generate this for me? Even better if it could generate the packaging for all the major distros |
| 23:50.46 | Algebr | Also how do I update an existing package? This is for libssh |
| 23:51.06 | frogdr | Alright |
| 23:51.10 | bagbobilgins | I too have a dual boot, until such times as Elite:Dangerous comes to Linux and I can live without one again |
| 23:51.11 | TuxShells | Algebr: sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 23:51.15 | frogdr | Windows partition manager says that the partition is "heathy" |
| 23:51.19 | frogdr | so I guess nothing's wrong. |
| 23:51.23 | TuxShells | lol |
| 23:51.28 | Algebr | And if something is packaged in debian, does it auto magically show up in ubuntu's apt-get? |
| 23:51.31 | TuxShells | download gsmartcontrol and do a long test |
| 23:51.34 | Algebr | TuxShells: What odes that have to do with anything |
| 23:52.00 | TuxShells | I work never trust windows saying the disk is healthy |
| 23:52.32 | TuxShells | even gsmart isn't 100%.... one time I had a drive pass gsmart smart tests and gnome-disk-utility said " Disk is OK. 6347 bad sectors" |
| 23:52.33 | TuxShells | lol |
| 23:52.45 | rainfyre | Algebr: if something is packaged in debian, it shows up in debian's repos |
| 23:53.46 | rainfyre | Algebr: you'd have to ask the ubuntu people how they bring debian packages into *buntu |
| 23:54.50 | Algebr | rainfyre: is there a tool that can generate packaging boiletplate? I want to update libssh-dev in debian's repos |
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| 23:55.15 | rainfyre | Algebr: not sure what you mean about the mini configuration language, you should "man apt-get" to read about it |
| 23:55.25 | rainfyre | Algebr: just apt-get install libssh-dev |
| 23:55.53 | rainfyre | Algebr: first sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade, like TuxShells mentioned a while back if that package is already installed |
| 23:56.15 | Algebr | Does no one understand what I'm saying? Debian has an old version of libssh-dev. I want it to be the latest version by default which means changing the debian pacakge |
| 23:56.30 | rainfyre | Algebr: you didn't mention that |
| 23:56.51 | Algebr | Okay, I thought I was saying that. |
| 23:56.58 | rainfyre | ok |
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| 23:57.17 | rainfyre | in debian, to do that you have to install the version you want from either testing or unstable in that case |
| 23:57.17 | bagbobilgins | Algebr: the version you require is not available in any repos? |
| 23:57.35 | ctmjr | ,v libssh-dev |
| 23:57.36 | judd | Package: libssh-dev on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 0.4.5-3+squeeze2; squeeze: 0.4.5-3+squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 0.5.3-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 0.5.4-1+deb7u1; wheezy: 0.5.4-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 0.5.4-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.6.3-4; stretch: 0.6.3-4.1; sid: 0.6.3-4.1 |
| 23:57.47 | Algebr | head is 0.7.1 |
| 23:57.49 | bagbobilgins | I forget what they call them in ubuntu |
| 23:58.06 | themill | dpkg: tell Algebr about uupdate |
| 23:58.23 | Algebr | but this will do it just for me, correct? |
| 23:58.36 | rainfyre | if you have a stable install and you start installing packages from other than the stable repositories you risk breaking your system |
| 23:58.49 | themill | Algebr: you might also want to file a wishlist bug asking for the package to be upgraded |
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| 23:58.55 | rainfyre | mixing repos is risky |
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