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| 14:27.21 | Thorax2015 | Hi all. I'm trying to install my wifi drivers, the device is an "Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6320". I found this page https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi Which lists the device. But i have no idea how to install it, im a bit of a noob |
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| 14:28.50 | mtn | Thorax2015: the device driver is in the kernel, so already installed. iwlwifi adds the firmware, which should make the device usable |
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| 14:29.04 | somiaj | Thorax2015: the drivers are mostly likely installed, you just need to install the firmware. The package is firmware-iwlwifi from non-free |
| 14:29.28 | Thorax2015 | I dont know how to install non-free stuff |
| 14:29.32 | AvatarA | now you got him even more confused :P |
| 14:29.40 | Thorax2015 | XD |
| 14:30.18 | somiaj | Thorax2015: if you have an internet connenction you need to add non-free to your sources.list |
| 14:30.32 | markybob | !non-free sources |
| 14:30.32 | dpkg | Edit /etc/apt/sources.list, ensure that the two main Debian mirror lines end with "main contrib non-free" rather than just "main", then «aptitude update». But bear in mind that you'll be installing <non-free> software. These may have onerous terms; check the licenses. See also <sources.list>. |
| 14:30.48 | somiaj | If you don't have an internet connenction you need to get the non-free firmware some how. One way is download it from packages.debian.org and copy it over to the device on a flash driver. |
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| 14:35.08 | folivora | I've 30" 4k 60Hz display, it is connected via displayport v.1.2. I get two screens both 1920x1080. What is the proper way to get gnome present one screen ? |
| 14:35.38 | Thorax2015 | :( I have no idea how to do that somiaj. I am searching, but to no avail |
| 14:36.12 | dashs | Accidently set all New Packages in apttiude to be installed. How to remove these? |
| 14:36.17 | Thorax2015 | somiaj, Is it just this file. /etc/apt/sources.list and i add a like of text to it? |
| 14:36.20 | markybob | Thorax2015, dpkg told you how |
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| 14:36.27 | jelly | folivora: two HD screens, wouldn't that be just half the resolution? |
| 14:36.44 | markybob | Thorax2015, yes. read what i told dpkg to tell you |
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| 14:37.23 | Thorax2015 | Ahh thank you markybob and dpkg I didnt see that |
| 14:37.34 | markybob | Thorax2015, dpkg is a bot. no need to thank him :) |
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| 14:37.55 | folivora | jelly it presents two 1920x1080 and the monitor is splitted half on the middle. I know that displayport v1.2 sends 4K in two signals. |
| 14:38.03 | AvatarA | dashs, do you still have aptitude open? |
| 14:38.13 | Thorax2015 | Awww, Bots need love too |
| 14:38.18 | markybob | heh |
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| 14:40.36 | dashs | yes |
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| 14:41.02 | AvatarA | you can press CTRL+U to undo |
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| 14:41.26 | Thorax2015 | So i should just add these lines "# Debian 8 "Jessie" |
| 14:41.26 | Thorax2015 | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free" at the bottom of the text file yeah? |
| 14:41.36 | Thorax2015 | I dont need to edit existing lines? |
| 14:41.44 | dashs | AvatarA -- oops too late for that, i closed and re-opened -- am I screwed? |
| 14:41.53 | somiaj | Thorax2015: you should jsut add conrib non-free to your existing lines (unless you don't have any jessie mirrors configured yet) |
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| 14:42.32 | AvatarA | in the Actions menu, you can click cancel pending actions |
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| 14:43.29 | Thorax2015 | So i would add "contrib non-free" to the end of every line that starts with dev-src? |
| 14:43.37 | dashs | Thanks -- usually use apt-get discrete functions... |
| 14:44.38 | somiaj | Thorax2015: deb-src are only for source packages. Though you could add that there, it won't help you install the binary package. I would add it to your deb lines too |
| 14:44.50 | markybob | Thorax2015, make it look like this https://paste.debian.net/313658/ |
| 14:45.16 | markybob | Thorax2015, that's all you need. and all you should have, really |
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| 14:47.03 | ThoraxDeb | markybob: Currently, that file looks like this. http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mR9a6aQ0 |
| 14:47.29 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, no. change it to what i showed you. |
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| 14:48.12 | Callek | So I am on vivid, and looking for an h264 plugin for gstreamer0.10 |
| 14:48.28 | Callek | I thought it was gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg but thats not available |
| 14:48.54 | mtn | !ubuntu |
| 14:48.54 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 14:50.34 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: the minimum sane set of changes would be to comment out the deb cdrom line, and append " contrib non-free" to other deb and deb-src lines. |
| 14:50.57 | Thorax2015 | jelly, yeah thats what i was gonna do. |
| 14:51.14 | markybob | i thought that's what i said :P |
| 14:51.15 | Thorax2015 | I was reading what markybob sent and just cinparing them |
| 14:51.21 | Thorax2015 | comparing**** |
| 14:51.44 | jelly | markybob's paste just uses the httpredir redirector instead of a specific mirror |
| 14:51.46 | Thorax2015 | OK... sources.list is read only. Can i edit it if i open it with the terminal? |
| 14:51.53 | markybob | true |
| 14:51.55 | jelly | Thorax2015: edit it as root |
| 14:52.10 | Thorax2015 | How do i do that. Sorry |
| 14:52.27 | jelly | Thorax2015: if you have sudo configured, "sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list" will work |
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| 14:53.00 | Thorax2015 | I dont know if i had sudo configured. Only installed last night, not made any changes |
| 14:53.22 | jelly | Thorax2015: try it. if not, open a terminal, open a root shell with "su -", and edit with your favorite terminal based editor, eg. "nano /etc/apt/sources.list" |
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| 14:54.38 | Callek | mtn: thanks :-) (in my case though, I wouldn't have minded installing a .deb directly for the gstreamer h264 support |
| 14:54.39 | baum | question: one newly installed application doesn't output any sound, how should i start to trace the error? |
| 14:54.48 | Callek | still asked in #ubuntu |
| 14:55.07 | mtn | Callek: this channel does not support ubuntu, so..... |
| 14:55.19 | Callek | yep, understood |
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| 14:56.03 | Callek | I forget though, is Ubuntu an offshoot of Debian, or is Debian an ofshoot of ubuntu, or did both just fork from each other? |
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| 14:56.23 | markybob | Callek, ubuntu is an offshoot of debian. |
| 14:56.24 | baum | another thing i noticed is that even though console-beep is activated no sound can be heared |
| 14:56.26 | petn-randall | Callek: dpkg answered that question for you. |
| 14:56.31 | baum | by chance this has todo with a missing kernel module? |
| 14:56.36 | Callek | thanks :-) |
| 14:57.20 | Callek | has his primary experience with RH-based, so using "deb" based systems feels weird so far, but I actually think I like it better |
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| 14:58.43 | markybob | Callek, they both came out in 1993...so same maturity...but obviously we're biased |
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| 14:59.31 | Callek | feels much less footguny to me so far, ;-) (although commands are taking me some time to learn properly) |
| 14:59.38 | ThoraxDeb | So. Ive made those changes. Do i need to restart? The second command on here doesnt work https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi |
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| 14:59.55 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, apt-get update |
| 15:00.06 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: run "apt-get update" |
| 15:00.15 | jelly | slow |
| 15:00.15 | markybob | i win :P |
| 15:00.32 | ThoraxDeb | Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/ E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied) E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root? |
| 15:00.38 | ThoraxDeb | grr |
| 15:00.42 | ThoraxDeb | su - ? |
| 15:00.44 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, as root |
| 15:00.48 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, yeah |
| 15:01.10 | ThoraxDeb | Awesome |
| 15:01.28 | ThoraxDeb | How come ive never needed su - on linux mint? |
| 15:01.52 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, i don't know. never used mint. also, gotta run, so good luck |
| 15:02.04 | petn-randall | ThoraxDeb: Did you use sudo? If not, you probably were logged in as root by default. |
| 15:02.17 | ThoraxDeb | oh i guess yeah, always used sudo |
| 15:02.25 | ThoraxDeb | Not that i know wtf that means :P |
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| 15:03.13 | ThoraxDeb | So now do i need to run "# modprobe -r iwlwifi ; modprobe iwlwifi" |
| 15:04.04 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: yes, or reboot |
| 15:04.20 | jelly | "# " means "run this command as root" |
| 15:04.43 | ThoraxDeb | i see |
| 15:04.56 | jelly | because # is a common way to mark a prompt from a shell running as root |
| 15:04.56 | ThoraxDeb | Ive entered that as root and i just got a new line |
| 15:05.03 | jelly | that's fine |
| 15:05.22 | jelly | changes would be visible in "dmesg" output, or in /var/log/kern.log log file |
| 15:05.50 | ThoraxDeb | So.. Should i be able to config the wireless now? |
| 15:06.41 | jelly | yes, esp. if you see the firmware got loaded in one of those two places ^^ |
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| 15:07.06 | ThoraxDeb | Sorry i have no idea how to checl |
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| 15:07.10 | ThoraxDeb | check* |
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| 15:07.45 | jelly | less /var/log/kern.log to view the file contents, G to go to the bottom (newest log lines), q to quit |
| 15:08.17 | ThoraxDeb | If i try and open that file it says I dont have permission |
| 15:08.25 | ThoraxDeb | So i need to open it via terminal? |
| 15:08.30 | jelly | hm |
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| 15:09.08 | jelly | no... a terminal doesn't give you permissions you didn't have |
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| 15:09.40 | ThoraxDeb | Well terminal allowed me to open the kernal.log |
| 15:09.47 | ThoraxDeb | As root anyway |
| 15:09.56 | jelly | only as root, yes |
| 15:10.14 | ThoraxDeb | So it does say bits about wireless |
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| 15:10.24 | ThoraxDeb | Should i post my log on pastebin? |
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| 15:10.48 | jelly | you might paste last ~50 lines if you want a confirmation |
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| 15:11.54 | ThoraxDeb | https://paste.debian.net/313663/ |
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| 15:13.26 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: lines 138, 141 suggest the kernel still can't find relevant firmware |
| 15:13.40 | ThoraxDeb | damn |
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| 15:14.26 | ThoraxDeb | restart? XD |
| 15:14.38 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: which version of firmware-iwlwifi do you have installed now? |
| 15:14.46 | jelly | judd: file iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode |
| 15:14.49 | judd | Search for iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode in jessie/amd64: firmware-iwlwifi: lib/firmware/iwlwifi-6000g2b-6.ucode |
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| 15:15.04 | ThoraxDeb | How? |
| 15:15.13 | Fjorgynn | I am trying to make an iso of a cd with dd but I only get 1.7 MB. Any clue? |
| 15:15.20 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi |
| 15:15.28 | jelly | or dpkg -s firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 15:16.50 | ThoraxDeb | Jelly this is the response https://paste.debian.net/313664/ |
| 15:17.17 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: soo... you didn't install it at all? |
| 15:17.33 | ThoraxDeb | Fuck knows, i thought i had. |
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| 15:18.15 | ThoraxDeb | Just ran "apt-get install firmware-iwlwifi" i assume no... |
| 15:18.24 | jelly | show the output of that command. |
| 15:18.28 | jelly | (run it again) |
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| 15:19.02 | jelly | if you only tried before "apt-get update" apt wouldn't have found anything |
| 15:19.41 | ThoraxDeb | https://paste.debian.net/313665/ |
| 15:19.48 | ThoraxDeb | I think i must have forgot to do it |
| 15:20.29 | jelly | right, now unload and modprobe the kernel driver again |
| 15:20.44 | jelly | (that modprobe -r ...; modprobe ... thing) |
| 15:21.17 | jelly | and look the new lines in kern.log |
| 15:21.23 | jelly | look at* |
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| 15:22.40 | ThoraxDeb | I think that got it jelly https://paste.debian.net/313667/ |
| 15:22.51 | ThoraxDeb | AHH IT DID |
| 15:22.53 | ThoraxDeb | Whhop |
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| 15:23.06 | ThoraxDeb | I now have a wifi icon in the system tray |
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| 15:23.49 | ThoraxDeb | Thankyou jelly. Sorry for being a pita! |
| 15:23.58 | jelly | \o/ |
| 15:24.12 | ThoraxDeb | It was a lot simpler than i thought. And I learnt something new too |
| 15:24.37 | ThoraxDeb | I learnt that i have no idea what im doing half the time on linux haha |
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| 15:25.20 | Iridos | what about the other half of the time? |
| 15:25.37 | ThoraxDeb | Ok. All the time. Im clueless |
| 15:25.45 | jelly | ThoraxDeb: that's fine as long as you're trying to figure it out, either on your own or asking someone with more experience |
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| 15:26.41 | jelly | not daring to ask, or thinking you know it already, is a much bigger problem |
| 15:27.13 | ThoraxDeb | I asked for help with arch in their channel..... Big mistake |
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| 15:27.27 | Iridos | if you knew the other half of the time, you could have solved the problem by dividing time in smaller and smaller time-slices :P |
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| 15:29.35 | jelly | throws a turtle shell at Iridos |
| 15:29.44 | ThoraxDeb | Can anyone recomend a good audio player for streaming from a windows network to debian? |
| 15:30.00 | ThoraxDeb | recommend* |
| 15:30.04 | Fjorgynn | VLC |
| 15:30.05 | Fjorgynn | ? |
| 15:30.34 | ThoraxDeb | I guess yeah :p |
| 15:30.54 | ThoraxDeb | Right... vlc install instructions. TO GOOGLE! |
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| 15:31.08 | Iridos | ? |
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| 15:31.19 | Fjorgynn | su -c 'apt-get install vlc' |
| 15:31.20 | qman__ | apt-get install vlc |
| 15:31.20 | Iridos | maybe "apt-get install vlc"? |
| 15:31.28 | Iridos | haha |
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| 15:31.40 | ThoraxDeb | wow really? |
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| 15:31.50 | ThoraxDeb | And that will grab the latest? |
| 15:31.58 | qman__ | Pretty much any music player is going to be able to play files off a windows share |
| 15:32.03 | jelly | no, that will grab whatever's in Debian already |
| 15:32.04 | markybob | ,v vlc |
| 15:32.05 | judd | Package: vlc on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze: 1.1.3-1squeeze6; squeeze-backports: 2.0.3-5~bpo60+2; wheezy: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; wheezy-security: 2.0.3-5+deb7u2+b1; squeeze-backports-sloppy: 2.0.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-backports: 2.1.5-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; jessie-security: 2.2.0~rc2-2+deb8u1; stretch: 2.2.1-4; sid: 2.2.1-4; wheezy-multimedia: |
| 15:32.06 | judd | 1:2.0.6-dmo3; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo1+cve1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.2.1-dmo10 |
| 15:32.19 | qman__ | It only gets complicated if you want to do stuff like dlna |
| 15:32.21 | jelly | 2.2.0~rc2 apparently |
| 15:32.28 | ThoraxDeb | qman__: yeah. I tend to drag and drop when i do. VLC sometimes has problems with that |
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| 15:33.01 | Kaiser | Hello, I think I need to get some non-free wifi drivers or something to make my wifi card work, any idea where to get these? |
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| 15:33.28 | ThoraxDeb | whats the "su -c" C bit for? |
| 15:33.44 | jelly | it's yet another way to say "run this command as root" |
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| 15:34.14 | ThoraxDeb | but if "su -" does that what is the C needed for? |
| 15:34.37 | Kaiser | i think -c stands for command |
| 15:34.43 | qman__ | Yes |
| 15:34.45 | jelly | you'd have to read man page for su command to find out, ThoraxDeb! |
| 15:34.54 | ThoraxDeb | SORRY!! |
| 15:34.58 | ThoraxDeb | I will read up sometime |
| 15:35.06 | petn-randall | ThoraxDeb: "su -" says to start a shell as root, 'su -c' say "run the next command as root". There are more switches documented in the man page. |
| 15:35.27 | petn-randall | s/say /says / |
| 15:35.27 | Kaiser | anyone had to set up wifi for a laptop? |
| 15:35.52 | jelly | it's reasonable to assume many people with laptops that. |
| 15:35.56 | jelly | !ask |
| 15:35.56 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 15:36.51 | Kaiser | Well, yeah I just have no idea where to get the right drivers and what not |
| 15:37.08 | Kaiser | It's an old compaq machine, running debian 8 |
| 15:37.10 | markybob | Kaiser, nor do we, because you've given us nothing to go on. |
| 15:37.45 | jelly | !which wifi |
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| 15:38.06 | jelly | !what's my wireless |
| 15:38.06 | dpkg | Install the hwinfo package and execute "/usr/sbin/hwinfo --wlan", or http://linux-wless.passys.nl/ , or ask me about <whats my hardware>. See also <wireless>. |
| 15:38.10 | qman__ | Kaiser: identify your hardware, with e.g. lspci; find a firmware package for that manufacturer/chip set and install it |
| 15:38.51 | jelly | Kaiser: best to have a wired internet connection on the very same machine while you're doing it |
| 15:38.54 | Kaiser | I'm sorry, I'll give you more detail. As I said I'm running deibian 8 on a compaq pressario, when I run "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" i get "wlan0 No scan results" |
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| 15:39.14 | Kaiser | I am running on an ethernet right now as we speak |
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| 15:39.31 | jelly | Kaiser: then, follow what dpkg bot said |
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| 15:39.50 | ThoraxDeb | after "apt-get install" i do update? or Upgrade? |
| 15:39.53 | ThoraxDeb | or both? |
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| 15:40.13 | jelly | just do apt-get install hwinfo |
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| 15:42.47 | Kaiser | ok, here's the output of hwinfo --wlan http://pastebin.com/YUGdZrXm |
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| 15:43.33 | Kaiser | How do I use this |
| 15:44.53 | markybob | Kaiser, probably install firmware-atheros |
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| 15:45.22 | Kaiser | ok, I'll google that, thanks markybob |
| 15:45.47 | markybob | Kaiser, just sudo apt-get install firmware-atheros. |
| 15:45.52 | Kaiser | ah |
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| 15:46.32 | Kaiser | I suspect a reboot will be required, right? |
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| 15:47.03 | head8debian | Kaiser: It would probably be a good idea. |
| 15:47.21 | head8debian | Im not 100% sure though. |
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| 15:47.47 | qman__ | Not strictly but that's the easy way |
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| 15:48.09 | qman__ | You could remove the modules then re-add them, but you'd have to know which ones |
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| 15:50.47 | likecolacola | hey, i have a vps (only shell) with debian 8.0 and when i open certain app (emacs), it does not recognize the alt key :< |
| 15:51.03 | kaiser_ | Hello, I'm back, after reboot I ran "sudo iwconfig" and got "wlan0 IEEE 802.11bg ESSID:off/any Mode:Managed Access Point: Not-Associated Tx-Power=off ", so i check "sudo rfkill list" and get that "Wireless LAN Hard blocked: yes" |
| 15:51.03 | ThoraxDeb | how secure is polari? |
| 15:51.22 | petn-randall | ThoraxDeb: What is polari? |
| 15:51.30 | markybob | likecolacola, maybe dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 15:51.36 | petn-randall | kaiser_: That means you have a hardware switch that is keep the wifi off. |
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| 15:51.45 | petn-randall | *keeping |
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| 15:52.05 | kaiser_ | I know, but the button is not doing anything, can there be another key that turns it off that isn't the wifi button? |
| 15:52.29 | petn-randall | kaiser_: Press it once, and then check again with rfkill. Does it change? |
| 15:52.42 | kaiser_ | Ussually the button has a led that indicates if the card is working, but it is on all the time, reguardless of press |
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| 15:52.49 | ctmjr | just use rfkill to unblock it |
| 15:52.50 | g00se | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polari |
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| 15:53.38 | kaiser_ | root@Grubtop:/home/kaiser# rfkill unblock 0root@Grubtop:/home/kaiser# sudo rfkill list 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes root@Grubtop:/home/kaiser# |
| 15:53.55 | kaiser_ | it isn't doing anything, even after press |
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| 15:54.14 | petn-randall | ThoraxDeb: Don't use Polari around the queen, she might get upset. |
| 15:54.24 | ThoraxP | Say whaaaaaaaaaaaa? |
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| 15:54.39 | g00se | Queens love it |
| 15:55.01 | ThoraxP | It looked quite nice. But i think i might just install hexchat instead |
| 15:55.04 | petn-randall | kaiser_: Do you have a 2nd switch on the side of the laptop? My old Acer TravelMate 6292 had that. |
| 15:55.37 | kaiser_ | Not that I can find, give me a sec to google it for a key combination or something |
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| 15:56.36 | likecolacola | markybob: nop :P |
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| 15:57.07 | kaak | what is the first unit/service run by systemd on boot? Is there a simple way to list out the unit order? |
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| 15:57.59 | AvatarA | kaiser_, you used "rfkill unblock"? |
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| 15:58.25 | AvatarA | I didn't use that command in a while but aren't you suppose to also specify what to unblock at the end? |
| 15:58.29 | Thorax2015 | Can I do "apt-get install firefox" when i have Iceweasel installed? I'd rather have the latest version of FF than IW. |
| 15:59.05 | ChrisH | kaak: systemd-analyze plot > file.svg && okular file.svg |
| 15:59.33 | ChrisH | kaak: use iceweasel instead of okular |
| 15:59.36 | kaiser_ | AvatarA I did use rfkill unblock, but it does nothing, it says it is hard blocked |
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| 16:00.17 | AvatarA | rfkill unblock phy0 or something |
| 16:00.18 | markybob | Thorax2015, firefox isn't in debian |
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| 16:00.28 | kaak | ChrisH, excellent -- exactly what I needed. Thanks! |
| 16:00.38 | kaiser_ | i sued rfkill unblock 0, no change |
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| 16:01.00 | ctmjr | oh i see it is hard blocked rfkill cannot unblock that it could be turned off in the bios |
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| 16:01.51 | AvatarA | also, I can unblock wifi by just using the GUI (top right wifi menu) |
| 16:01.57 | kaiser_ | Ok, I've been reading, there's an issue with the switch going down if not pressed when the system boots, I'll try rebooting and see what happens |
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| 16:02.05 | AvatarA | it does unblock even hard blocks but maybe it's hardware dependent, don't know |
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| 16:03.06 | Dr_Coke | Hey everyone |
| 16:03.22 | Dr_Coke | is debian 8.3 almost out |
| 16:03.35 | Dr_Coke | and is debian 8.2 now easy to install nvidia drivers and steam etc |
| 16:03.43 | Dr_Coke | more like linux mint ? |
| 16:03.57 | petn-randall | !point releases |
| 16:03.58 | dpkg | Point releases are updates to <stable> and <oldstable>, incorporating security fixes and resolving grave bugs. You can upgrade to the latest point release by referencing a Debian <mirror> in /etc/apt/sources.list, then "aptitude update && aptitude full-upgrade". See <8.2>, <7.9>. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianReleases/PointReleases |
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| 16:04.07 | Dr_Coke | did debian become more user friendly yet |
| 16:04.12 | Dr_Coke | is what I mean |
| 16:04.19 | petn-randall | Dr_Coke: Read what dpkg said. |
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| 16:04.41 | Dr_Coke | click the link? |
| 16:04.52 | Kaiser | Ok, rebooted, pressed the button like a million times, no light change, but when I check rfkill list, i get that WLAN is no longer blocked, progress I guess |
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| 16:05.33 | Kaiser | And when I ran "sudo iwlist wlan0 scan" I get "wlan0 No scan results" |
| 16:05.59 | zinx | Kaiser: is there anything in dmesg about firmware? |
| 16:06.02 | petn-randall | Kaiser: Which wifi card do you have? You can check it with 'lspci -nn'. |
| 16:07.06 | Dr_Coke | You know I think 8.2 jessie would be awesome to try |
| 16:07.11 | Dr_Coke | but I have linux mint installed |
| 16:07.14 | Dr_Coke | and osx |
| 16:07.15 | Kaiser | ran "lspci -nn" got this http://pastebin.com/E1z6cSFP |
| 16:07.37 | Dr_Coke | and I'm afraid of clover not seeing the debian install |
| 16:07.42 | Dr_Coke | and not being able to fix it |
| 16:08.07 | Dr_Coke | but is debian 8.2 a big improvement over wheezy |
| 16:08.22 | Dr_Coke | lots of later packages right |
| 16:08.27 | Dr_Coke | so i can run steam |
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| 16:08.35 | Dr_Coke | and install nvidia drivers easier? |
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| 16:08.49 | petn-randall | ,v steam --architecture i386 |
| 16:08.49 | judd | (versions <pattern> [--arch <amd64>] [--release <stable>]) -- Show the available versions of a package in the optionally specified release and for the given architecture. All current releases and amd64 are searched by default. By default, binary packages are searched; prefix the packagename with "src:" to search source packages. |
| 16:08.57 | petn-randall | ,v steam --arch i386 |
| 16:08.58 | judd | Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free: 1.0.0.49-1; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.50-6; stretch/non-free: 1.0.0.50-6 |
| 16:09.12 | petn-randall | Dr_Coke: steam is in jessie. ^^^^ |
| 16:09.18 | Dr_Coke | great |
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| 16:09.31 | Dr_Coke | what about nvidia drivers for my geforce gtx 980 |
| 16:09.31 | petn-randall | Dr_Coke: But if 8.0 didn't work for you, 8.2 will only have bugfixes. |
| 16:09.40 | Dr_Coke | I never tried 8 |
| 16:09.41 | Dr_Coke | yet |
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| 16:09.44 | Dr_Coke | just wheezy |
| 16:09.45 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 16:09.46 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 16:09.50 | Dr_Coke | a long time back |
| 16:09.51 | brian|lfs | hello all |
| 16:10.21 | Dr_Coke | petn-randall do you love debian 8.2 ? |
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| 16:10.33 | petn-randall | Dr_Coke: It works for me, yes. |
| 16:10.43 | Dr_Coke | Do you think Debian is as user friendly as linux mint now? |
| 16:10.59 | Kaiser | ok, ran dmesg, got this huge output, I think some ctrl+F is necessary to get anything usefull http://pastebin.com/7aqdtKFj |
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| 16:11.07 | brian|lfs | hey Dr_Coke I wouldn't say I love it but its running pretty rock solid. |
| 16:11.17 | brian|lfs | Installed it on 2 systems |
| 16:11.24 | petn-randall | Dr_Coke: I never tried Mint, and I guess it depends on your definition of user friendly. |
| 16:11.51 | Dr_Coke | Because like Linus Torwarlds said he wants an operating system where he can get on with his life |
| 16:11.53 | AvatarA | there was a saying that linux is user friendly but it choses who to be friends with |
| 16:12.00 | AvatarA | guess it applies to Debian too |
| 16:12.02 | Dr_Coke | not screw around trying to get things to work when they won't |
| 16:12.36 | Kaiser | also yes, I did install the firmware-atheros as recommended, rebooted and this is where we are at |
| 16:12.36 | jarlopez | Hey peeps. I'd like to automatically switch themes from light to dark (and vice versa) in the omrning and at night. Is a cron-job using gsettings the right way to go about this? |
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| 16:15.11 | Kaiser | Ok, again, I'm trying to get the Wifi card working, I installed the firmware-atheros, I am running debian 8, checked the rfkill and the card is no longer blocked, but when scanned I get no results |
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| 16:17.17 | Kaiser | Anyone got any idea why "iwlist wlan0 scan" would throw no results? |
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| 16:17.40 | petn-randall | Kaiser: Could be that the antenna is broken and you don't have any reception. |
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| 16:18.05 | Kaiser | The antena worked just fine before installing debian, I was running windows 7 before |
| 16:18.16 | petn-randall | Kaiser: Also, I'm assuming you're somewhere where there is an access point nearby. |
| 16:18.34 | Kaiser | I have a wifi router right next to me, |
| 16:18.45 | Kaiser | I'm currently using the ethernet cable to connect |
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| 16:19.13 | Kaiser | Gimme a sec, I'll try and use a USB wifi antena and see if that works |
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| 16:20.25 | Kaiser | Ok, I used an external wifi antena and when I ran "iwlist wlan1 scan" I did get results |
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| 16:20.29 | Kaiser | so it's a wlan0 issue |
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| 16:21.08 | petn-randall | Kaiser: I see. Just to be sure, you don't have something like hostapd or network-manager running that might be manipulating wlan0? |
| 16:21.30 | petn-randall | Kaiser: I know from experience that iwlist scan doesn't always work if you're running the interface in managed mode. |
| 16:22.12 | petn-randall | Kaiser: I didn't see anything like that in dmesg, but I'd just ask to be sure. |
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| 16:25.08 | brian|lfs | anyone know how to get /dev/vfio to work as a normal user I don't really like running my vms as root? |
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| 16:27.08 | petn-randall | brian|lfs: What virtualization system are you using? |
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| 16:28.47 | brian|lfs | qemu |
| 16:29.01 | ug | my brightness and volume function keys stopped working, though my "mute" function key still works. is there a way to check what's happening when I hit these keys? I'm on stable, and got a kernel upgrade the other day, but the keys were working since a restart after that, until today |
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| 16:29.55 | ug | just kidding, my mute fn key doesn't work either. |
| 16:30.15 | SynrG | ug: two things to inspect current state, one is xev which shows the xorg view of things, the other is acpi_listen in case you need some acpi script magic to make the keys work |
| 16:30.47 | SynrG | ug: ideally, the kernel generates an input event that your desktop picks up on and maps to some reasonable behaviour |
| 16:31.10 | ug | i have xbindkeys to bind them, but maybe i'll turn off xbindkeys and see what happens, then i'll try those programs, SynrG. thanks. |
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| 16:31.25 | SynrG | k. good luck |
| 16:31.31 | ug | acpi_listen returns feedback for the keys fine |
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| 16:31.46 | SynrG | sure, but that's far beneath the input layer |
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| 16:32.46 | SynrG | the old/bad way is to attach a script via acpi-support to listen to hardware-specific acpi events and map them to script actions directly |
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| 16:33.20 | SynrG | the new/good way is to simply pass back to the user's desktop the appropriate key event that it's the user's WM / DE's responsibility to map to some reasonable behaviour |
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| 16:33.42 | ug | I see |
| 16:33.46 | ug | xev is returning nothing |
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| 16:34.06 | SynrG | so it's not getting mapped to anything xbindkeys could do anything with |
| 16:34.31 | SynrG | do you have acpi-support installed? is there some kernel module that's supposed to handle acpi for your system and emit appropriate input events? |
| 16:34.33 | ug | weirdly, it was working last night, and I had the computer on hibernate until this morning. |
| 16:35.09 | ug | I don't have acpi-support installed |
| 16:35.17 | SynrG | you think it might be hibernate-related? easy enough to test. reboot |
| 16:35.45 | ug | SynrG, I'm not too keen on kernel stuff, but I never mess with modules. I'll reboot and report back. |
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| 16:37.57 | ewew | Can be setting sysrq to 0x00 in kernel setup a good security feature ? When login in use pam_exec to enable sysrq ? |
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| 16:44.36 | Thorax | Hi all. Can anyone tell me if empathy is secure as an IRC client? |
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| 16:46.22 | ewew | @Thorax Define how secure you want it. It does not depend only on empathy. |
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| 16:46.42 | brian|lfs | you still thhere petn-randall |
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| 16:47.06 | brian|lfs | its a qemu virtual machine with vga passthrough |
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| 16:47.23 | brian|lfs | and for the life me can't find a way to access vfio without root |
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| 16:48.01 | abrotman | Thorax: by what definition? |
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| 16:48.30 | Thorax | Just compared to thers |
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| 16:48.47 | Thorax | Ok. something just went horribly wrong i fear... |
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| 16:49.10 | millican | Are the Debian 8 repos missing ffmpeg? |
| 16:49.43 | brian|lfs | nope I see it |
| 16:50.07 | ewew | @millican It is possible. ffmpeg is in strech. |
| 16:50.24 | ewew | Try libav. |
| 16:51.00 | Thorax | I just entered "apt-get remove empathy" then i did "apt-get --purge empathy" the terminal then stated that "The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:" and suggested that i run "apt-get autoremove" so i did. But the ammount of stuff it looks to have removed is crazy long. |
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| 16:51.13 | millican | It may be gone as libav says that it replaces the ffmpeg command line tools |
| 16:51.17 | SynrG | Thorax: i can't find instructions to set up empathy with certfp or sasl and freenode. doesn't prove it can't be done, though. but there are two halves of the problem, secure auth and secure transport. i think empathy can do the latter. |
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| 16:52.10 | ug | reboot, nothing changed. this has got me really pissed. just stopped out of nowhere. |
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| 16:52.23 | SynrG | Thorax: personally, i'd choose one of the alternatives where it's well known/supported |
| 16:52.33 | SynrG | (both secure auth *and* transport) |
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| 16:52.58 | Thorax | https://paste.debian.net/313683/ Have i screwed the debian install. Or cleaned it? XD |
| 16:53.01 | HyP3r | Hey all, I have no sound with my Debian 7 Wheezy. Can someone help me? |
| 16:53.11 | SynrG | ug: hmm. check your dpkg.log for recent removals? maybe you did have acpi-support before and that was necessary to make it work |
| 16:53.18 | HyP3r | I'm using debian 7 with graphical interface |
| 16:53.36 | SynrG | ug: maybe the removal was masked by it continuing to work until the hibernate/resume |
| 16:53.41 | HyP3r | And with Alsa+PulseAudio. But there is no /dev/dsp device |
| 16:53.46 | ug | SynrG, I installed acpi-support before rebooting. |
| 16:54.00 | SynrG | or if not acpi-support, "something else" (hardware-specific ACPI support?) |
| 16:54.12 | HyP3r | I have 00:14.2 Audio device: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] FCH Azalia Controller (rev 01) this audio card |
| 16:54.25 | SynrG | or some kernel thing |
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| 16:55.18 | SynrG | HyP3r: /dev/dsp is OSS compat. i doubt if it's relevant. |
| 16:55.21 | brian|lfs | lol SynrG |
| 16:55.31 | brian|lfs | what do you think SynrG? |
| 16:55.37 | SynrG | um? |
| 16:55.42 | HyP3r | SynrG: I need this for vmware workstation |
| 16:56.06 | HyP3r | But SynrG I also dont have sound with "speaker-test" or "aplay" |
| 16:56.06 | brian|lfs | does linux even use /dev/dsp anymore |
| 16:56.16 | brian|lfs | I suppose it does if anyone is running OSS still |
| 16:56.36 | AvatarA | Thorax, apt-get install task-gnome-desktop |
| 16:56.37 | SynrG | HyP3r: no sound cards listed with "aplay -L"? |
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| 16:57.00 | HyP3r | SynrG: sure there are |
| 16:57.08 | SynrG | maybe just a mixer issue |
| 16:57.22 | SynrG | or a vmware config issue (but if it's that, i can't help) |
| 16:57.23 | monikers | Do you guys suggest any OpenVPN provider? |
| 16:57.28 | HyP3r | SynrG: http://pastebin.com/x1nPXgPU |
| 16:57.31 | monikers | Like fav among Debian users? |
| 16:57.42 | ug | thanks for the suggests SynrG |
| 16:57.46 | HyP3r | SynrG: I dont have sound with those test tools so I think, vmware isn't the reason for that |
| 16:58.11 | HyP3r | My user "admin" is in the group "sound" |
| 16:58.31 | jhutchins | HyP3r: I'm not sure vmware even offers the option to add an audio device to a VM. |
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| 16:58.44 | SynrG | HyP3r: group 'sound'? what's that? |
| 16:58.54 | SynrG | HyP3r: do you mean group 'audio'? |
| 16:59.17 | HyP3r | SynrG: ops yes I mean the group audio |
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| 16:59.41 | HyP3r | for the first instance please forget "vmware" in this case. I dont get sound with aplay or speaker-test |
| 17:00.10 | SynrG | in the host, you mean? |
| 17:00.12 | HyP3r | If I go into the System Settings into Audio Configuration I see only "Internal Audio" |
| 17:00.17 | HyP3r | yes |
| 17:00.19 | SynrG | pavucontrol shows the correct output device? |
| 17:00.20 | likecolacola | alt key not working on my new debian 8.0 vps :\ |
| 17:00.31 | SynrG | you have digital and analog out ... |
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| 17:00.47 | SynrG | gtg. work |
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| 17:02.25 | likecolacola | when i do alt + ch, it put weird accents to it |
| 17:02.36 | HyP3r | With pavucontrol I see only "Interal Audio Analog Stereo" |
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| 17:02.45 | HyP3r | Shouldn't there something like "Realtek"? |
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| 17:03.35 | brian|lfs | if you have a Realtek card |
| 17:03.43 | markybob | HyP3r, no. it doesn't show chipset |
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| 17:03.50 | markybob | brian|lfs, no |
| 17:04.08 | brian|lfs | that's true good point |
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| 17:04.30 | HyP3r | http://freedesktop.org/software/pulseaudio/pavucontrol//screenshot.png |
| 17:04.44 | HyP3r | Take a look at this, its not mine but I have only "Internal Aduio" |
| 17:04.50 | HyP3r | This user has his PCI Card I not! |
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| 17:05.10 | HyP3r | What can I do, to solve that problem, I'm not that good with pulseaudio, and alsa is connecting to pulseaduio |
| 17:05.15 | brian|lfs | It looks like you have Ensoniq |
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| 17:05.36 | markybob | smh |
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| 17:05.55 | brian|lfs | and whatever internal audio is |
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| 17:06.54 | brian|lfs | I know for my intel audio it says built in audio |
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| 17:07.48 | HyP3r | brian|lfs: this is a screenshot |
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| 17:07.59 | HyP3r | But I have no sound, what can I do :( |
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| 17:08.28 | brian|lfs | did you open alsamixer |
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| 17:10.01 | HyP3r | Yes |
| 17:10.11 | HyP3r | alsamixer is connecto to pulseaudio and everthing is 100$% |
| 17:10.13 | HyP3r | *100% |
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| 17:11.18 | HyP3r | Card and Chip is "PulseAudio" |
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| 17:11.56 | brian|lfs | mm you need to check the card not pulseaudio |
| 17:12.15 | fennesz | Hello ! I have installed xfce alongside gnome . Some applications open nautilus in xfce . How can I change it to have thunar as default ? I am using Jessie x46 |
| 17:12.16 | brian|lfs | tryingg alsamixer -c 0 or 1 or something |
| 17:12.19 | fennesz | x64 |
| 17:12.19 | HyP3r | If I do that alsamixer crashes and says invalid argument |
| 17:12.21 | brian|lfs | until you find your card |
| 17:12.58 | HyP3r | alsamixer -c 0 -> crash and invalid argument |
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| 17:13.34 | brian|lfs | as yourself or root? |
| 17:13.40 | HyP3r | http://pastebin.com/pdE9TgXi |
| 17:13.52 | HyP3r | I tried with root and normal user |
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| 17:13.59 | HyP3r | As you can see.. :) |
| 17:14.06 | ThoraxDeb | https://paste.debian.net/313683/ So should i reinstall debian? |
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| 17:14.33 | ThoraxDeb | Looks like that autoremove command removed much more than Empathy |
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| 17:17.21 | AvatarA | ThoraxDeb, , apt-get install task-gnome-desktop |
| 17:17.38 | ThoraxDeb | AvatarA: What would that do? |
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| 17:18.21 | AvatarA | reinstall what you "accidentally" removed |
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| 17:18.44 | HyP3r | brian|lfs: this fixed that options snd-hda-intel model=auto |
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| 17:18.54 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, that's fine. empathy depends on a lot. that's why autoremove did that |
| 17:19.06 | ThoraxDeb | Ok.... i assume it will reinstall all the standard packages forthe debian gnome install |
| 17:19.23 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, for example if i tried to install empathy right now this is what would happen https://paste.debian.net/313686/ |
| 17:19.54 | ThoraxDeb | Ahh right, i assumed it was something like that. |
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| 17:20.13 | ThoraxDeb | My applications folder is now considerably shorter XD |
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| 17:20.41 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, that means nothing |
| 17:21.14 | ThoraxDeb | markybob: How do you mean? |
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| 17:21.36 | ThoraxDeb | I understand not ALL packages get listed there |
| 17:21.47 | ThoraxDeb | But it went from 4 pages to 2 |
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| 17:22.11 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, are you having a problem or are you just worried? |
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| 17:22.43 | ThoraxDeb | Im just playing around really. I wanted to uninstall Empathy and use Xchat instead. |
| 17:22.52 | ThoraxDeb | But the auto remove removed loads of stuff |
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| 17:23.09 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, don't worry. autoremove knows what it's doing |
| 17:23.13 | ThoraxDeb | Ive run the command AvatarA suggested and its redownloading stuff now |
| 17:23.24 | AvatarA | it's not that empathy depends on a lot |
| 17:23.34 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, yeah. you'll get a lot of crap you don't need with that task |
| 17:23.34 | AvatarA | gnome-core depends on empathy and a lot of other stuff |
| 17:23.55 | ThoraxDeb | ahh ok |
| 17:23.56 | AvatarA | gnome-core is a metapackage that allows you to easily install a collection of software |
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| 17:24.31 | ThoraxDeb | Like i said, just playing around really. Learning by breaking and fixing. And pestering you gals/guys. |
| 17:25.16 | markybob | ThoraxDeb, that's fine. learn to trust debian :) as long as you're using stable anyway |
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| 17:25.31 | brian|lfs | lol |
| 17:25.31 | ThoraxDeb | afaik i am yeah |
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| 17:25.38 | Vanfanel | hi. I'm new to systemd but I'm trying to learn. I was trying to setup autologin for tty1 but now I get: http://pastebin.com/LYvKriyh |
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| 17:25.45 | Vanfanel | any ideas, please? |
| 17:25.53 | brian|lfs | I trust it more then archlinux markybob |
| 17:26.00 | ThoraxDeb | Im not saying i dont trust it at all. I was just a bit gob smacked how much it removed. It even removed gedit |
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| 17:26.14 | brian|lfs | on arch with there system for making the initrd image every time I would boot up it was a crap shoot |
| 17:26.16 | AvatarA | well so now you learned not to remove stuff that was installed by default ;) |
| 17:26.23 | brian|lfs | one time it would boot next time bomb out lol |
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| 17:26.26 | AvatarA | not worth the hassle in most cases |
| 17:27.46 | AvatarA | lesson 2, before you type "y" and press enter, READ :] |
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| 17:46.17 | lubarch | w |
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| 18:04.32 | foul_owl | Hi folks. Is gpgv1 deprecated? Should I only be using gpgv2? |
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| 18:10.08 | ewew | @Vanfanel Where did you put the file ? |
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| 18:11.45 | asarch | My laptop just stop to work a few minutes ago and then I had to press the power button in order to force the shutdown. Is there any way to inspect what went wrong? |
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| 18:14.24 | ewew | @asarch Check the /var/log and .xsession-errors. |
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| 18:21.32 | ewew | @Vanfane Try copy the original file from /lib/systemd/system/ and rename it as you want. It looks like it needs to be named correctly. |
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| 18:23.20 | NoImNotNineVolt | +spelling |
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| 18:23.58 | ewew | You think it is hard to decrypt what i mean ? |
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| 18:25.06 | NoImNotNineVolt | none of the messages you've sent to this channel have been encrypted. |
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| 18:27.18 | jstolarek | can anyone point me to a *good* grub2 configuration guide? |
| 18:27.30 | bazhang | #grub |
| 18:27.31 | RoyK | !grub2 |
| 18:27.31 | dpkg | GNU GRUB 2 is a portable and powerful boot loader. Ask me about <grub config> and <grub default>. To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 #grub on irc.freenode.net. See also <grub legacy>. |
| 18:27.34 | jstolarek | I'm struggling with setting up grub2 to boot jessie |
| 18:27.52 | ewew | @NoImNotNineVolt English is not my native language. |
| 18:28.06 | bazhang | ewew, no @ |
| 18:28.18 | jstolarek | RoyK: nope, that wiki page does not qualify as "good" |
| 18:28.38 | bazhang | jstolarek, just ask |
| 18:29.05 | asarch | Thank you ewew |
| 18:29.09 | asarch | Thank you very much :-) |
| 18:29.10 | jstolarek | bazhang: that might be a bit too long, I was planning to do some RTFM before asking |
| 18:29.15 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's not my native language either, for the record. |
| 18:29.38 | bazhang | jstolarek, if the official #grub channel is not good enough, then bupkis |
| 18:29.42 | jstolarek | but long story short: my laptop is not bootableafter installing jessie :-) |
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| 18:30.23 | bazhang | its linux we need the long story |
| 18:30.34 | jstolarek | yup |
| 18:30.51 | jstolarek | long story: windows 8 + / on sda9 |
| 18:30.52 | RoyK | jstolarek: try "update-grub" from a live thing |
| 18:31.02 | jstolarek | RoyK: tried already, didn't work |
| 18:31.13 | jstolarek | at the moment I'm chrooted into the hard drive from the libe cd |
| 18:31.34 | jstolarek | trying to figure out whether I need bios version of grub or the efi one |
| 18:31.45 | RoyK | jstolarek: hm... what about grub-install /dev/whateverthebootdriveis |
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| 18:32.37 | RoyK | jstolarek: the usb pen drive with the live thing may be sda - if so - the real install will be something else |
| 18:33.11 | RoyK | but then - I don't think I've seen this on EFI (nor tried to solve it there) |
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| 18:33.28 | jstolarek | I'm boot from CD |
| 18:33.36 | jstolarek | and the hard drive is sda |
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| 18:33.50 | RoyK | CD should be safe |
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| 18:34.09 | jstolarek | yeah, but how do I tell if the system needs EFI or not? |
| 18:34.19 | jstolarek | I mean the installer installed the BIOS version of grub |
| 18:34.38 | RoyK | not sure, sorry |
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| 18:36.17 | jstolarek | hm... |
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| 18:37.00 | jstolarek | so, with EFI grub running "grub-install /dev/sda" resulted with some silly error: |
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| 18:37.28 | jstolarek | /usr/lib/grub/i386-pc/modinfo.sh doesn't exist. Please specify --target or --directory |
| 18:37.42 | jstolarek | with BIOS grub I got the following messages |
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| 18:37.53 | jstolarek | Installing for i386-pc platform |
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| 18:38.19 | jstolarek | warning: this GPT partition label contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible. |
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| 18:38.45 | bazhang | ,v grub-efi |
| 18:38.46 | judd | Package: grub-efi on amd64 -- squeeze: 1.98+20100804-14+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.99-27+deb7u2; jessie: 2.02~beta2-22; stretch: 2.02~beta2-28; sid: 2.02~beta2-28 |
| 18:39.08 | jstolarek | warning: Embedding is not possible. GRUB can only be installed in this setup using blocklists. However, blocklists are UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged.. |
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| 18:39.20 | jstolarek | error: will not proceed with blocklists. |
| 18:39.34 | AvatarA | jstolarek, you wanted a FM: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/GRUB2 |
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| 18:39.54 | AvatarA | from what you said up until now, seems like you need an EFI partition |
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| 18:41.42 | jstolarek | AvatarA: perhaps. How do I tell whether a partition created by the installer is an EFI partiton? |
| 18:41.49 | jstolarek | or, to put things differently |
| 18:42.17 | AvatarA | it should be fat and a small one |
| 18:42.36 | jstolarek | I have 10 partitions, without any primary or extended partitions, so the disk is not laid out in the old MBR-style |
| 18:42.55 | AvatarA | yeah it's GPT |
| 18:43.35 | s00ryavansham | Does kewlhead17 ever visit? |
| 18:43.36 | jstolarek | so does that count as an "EFI parition"? |
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| 18:44.01 | AvatarA | sudo fdisk -l and see if you have "fat" or "vfat" or something |
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| 18:44.19 | bazhang | s00ryavansham, memoserv him |
| 18:44.25 | AvatarA | I am going by theory here as I have never used UEFI for myself |
| 18:44.27 | s00ryavansham | I must |
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| 18:44.34 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:44.53 | s00ryavansham | Not registered. |
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| 18:45.30 | jstolarek | AvatarA: ah, ok, /dev/sda2 is listed as EFI System and is exactly 100MB |
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| 18:45.32 | snima | Why I got this error: Err http://deb.torproject.org wheezy/main amd64 Packages |
| 18:45.34 | snima | 403 Forbidden [IP: 93.95.227.222 80] |
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| 18:46.37 | snima | Also how can I solve this: There is no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 18:46.38 | snima | 9D6D8F6BC857C906 |
| 18:47.20 | ewew | snima Check if your IP is not on blacklist and gpg key ID is shorter. |
| 18:47.48 | snima | ewew: How should I check that? |
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| 18:48.11 | snima | ewew: I did not understand this "gpg key ID is shorter." |
| 18:48.14 | ewew | google this string blacklist check. |
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| 18:50.58 | snima | ewew: It is related to tor like: http://superuser.com/questions/682751/apt-get-update-still-tries-to-download-from-tor-project-after-uninstalling-tor |
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| 18:51.36 | snima | ewew: If so, How should I exit it from blacklist? |
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| 18:53.37 | ewew | It depends on policy of the list. Some erase your IP after time when not causing trouble. |
| 18:54.42 | ewew | Now it looks like the dns record does not exist. You need to ask on irc #tor. |
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| 20:28.50 | darsie | hey, I'm on day 2 of trying to install Jessie :(. Right now I broke boot again. I put grub on my boot partition sda1 and now it doesn't find vg1. I'm on knoppix now, dunno how to mount /dev/mapper/root. Should I reinstall? |
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| 20:29.49 | ewew | darsie What happens after the error message ? Did it fall in initramfs shell ? |
| 20:30.00 | darsie | ewew: yes |
| 20:30.15 | ewew | try this command lvs |
| 20:30.21 | darsie | ok ... |
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| 20:30.40 | darsie | is that all? |
| 20:30.49 | ewew | whats the output |
| 20:31.06 | darsie | I have to boot. cu ... |
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| 20:33.40 | rickeyrich | hey im using debian jessie 64 bit version and i have virtual machine manager installed and was wondering whats the 3 main things i should configure for a vm |
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| 20:34.17 | fagbodildage | depends what you want to do, rickeyrich |
| 20:35.09 | fagbodildage | I'd say the three main things you should configure are the three main things you want to do with it |
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| 20:35.20 | fagbodildage | so what's your actual question? |
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| 20:37.54 | rickeyrich | im trying to find out more info on apache2 webserver .what should i do to the virtual disk settings that would make the vm work nicely |
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| 20:39.17 | fagbodildage | so you're having problems installing LAMP? |
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| 20:41.13 | fagbodildage | but you're concerned about optimization |
| 20:41.25 | fagbodildage | and it's too early to think about optimizing? |
| 20:42.10 | rickeyrich | no im just going straight apache2 none of the others |
| 20:42.16 | jhutchins | rickeyrich: What kind of "disk settings" are you thinking of? |
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| 20:43.57 | Halma | hello all |
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| 20:44.14 | rickeyrich | the performance options drop list in it is cache mode and io mode how do i set those up |
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| 20:44.27 | rickeyrich | hollaaa |
| 20:44.27 | fagbodildage | seems like a virtual machine manager problem, which is a microsoft problem which is not a debian problem... |
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| 20:45.21 | rickeyrich | no i have debian jessie host trying to make a debian jessie vm |
| 20:45.54 | rickeyrich | im sorry if im not being specofic enough but im trying and idk how to be specific lol any suggestions lol |
| 20:46.23 | fagbodildage | so which virtual machine manager are you using? what's the name of the application? |
| 20:46.37 | fagbodildage | virt-manager, for example? |
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| 20:48.20 | rickeyrich | virtual machine manager - it has this thing called gemu -kvm on it |
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| 20:48.40 | fagbodildage | qemu? |
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| 20:49.28 | rickeyrich | yea that |
| 20:50.12 | fagbodildage | https://wiki.debian.org/KVM lots of documentation here, might help you get your head round the lingo, which should help isolate the problem |
| 20:50.45 | jhutchins | rickeyrich: Go with the defaults, see where it needs improvement. |
| 20:51.33 | fagbodildage | rickeyrich: one easy optimization would be to have your vm(s) running on a separate disk from your host OS |
| 20:52.09 | fagbodildage | but read the bit on Disk I/O from what I linked, and see how much sense it makes |
| 20:52.14 | theophil | rickeyrich: im running a few kvm machines myself, some of them running nginx and apache - and i've never had a problem with performance for small to medium sized setups |
| 20:52.41 | rickeyrich | yea that i do have independent on its own |
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| 20:53.41 | rickeyrich | thanks alot sirs doing a great job peace and much thanks |
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| 20:54.28 | fagbodildage | yw, rickeyrich, the more docs you read the more specific you'll be able to be ;) |
| 20:55.27 | theophil | when we're on the topic, can you guys recommend a lvm setup for smaller virtualization setups with qemu/kvm? or would you rather stick with qcow2? |
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| 20:55.57 | rickeyrich | i hope to God your right about that,computers is new to me but im willing to kick its butt in a good way |
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| 20:57.39 | fagbodildage | that's the right attitude, rickeyrich; in general every time you come to a term you don't understand go to wikipedia for a fuller understanding |
| 20:59.15 | rickeyrich | atta boy ill give it a shot im adding you as a friend on this i could learn from you once i get better questions to ask |
| 21:00.11 | fagbodildage | no worries |
| 21:00.32 | fagbodildage | is still a noob, not been at it quite a decade, yet |
| 21:01.30 | rickeyrich | not even u got potiential.one decade at a time my friend |
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| 21:21.50 | anoob | how do i get my radeon working with open source drivers? (Radeon R7 M260/M265) https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8847757 |
| 21:21.54 | g00se | beginning to lament the 'loss' of flashplugin-nonfree to Html5. He used to be able to kill remote noise easily. What does he do now? |
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| 21:23.03 | anoob | i've installed xserver-xorg-video-radeon but after reboot, debian is not using radeon anyway ... i am not sure if it's the right package for this card ... |
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| 21:25.26 | fagbodildage | last time I had an ati/amd gfx card the silver bullet was some fglrx package or other, anoob |
| 21:25.37 | fagbodildage | but it was a while back |
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| 21:25.54 | anoob | fagbodildage, you mean, the nonfree driver ... :( |
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| 21:26.43 | fagbodildage | yes |
| 21:26.55 | fagbodildage | do you need graphical acceleration? |
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| 21:28.04 | fagbodildage | anoob: the other way to go is the mesa stuff, which is reportedly coming on rather well |
| 21:28.18 | fagbodildage | apt-get install firmware-linux-nonfree libgl1-mesa-dri xserver-xorg-video-ati |
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| 21:28.59 | fagbodildage | how you'd do it without blobby firmware I don't know, but see here: https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
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| 21:33.10 | anoob | fagbodildage, thanks. i will give it a try |
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| 21:33.31 | anoob | fagbodildage, ati driver is a wrapper ... i did not know about it |
| 21:34.29 | shay_shay | is there anyone here that is familiar with sharing windows drivers from samba? i am having a hard time getting cupsaddsmb to work |
| 21:34.48 | fagbodildage | windows drivers? |
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| 21:35.17 | fagbodildage | not me |
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| 21:37.09 | anoob | fagbodildage, "The ati driver is a small wrapper that probes your card and then loads the appropriate driver, either radeon, r128, or atimisc. " http://www.x.org/wiki/ati/ |
| 21:39.14 | fagbodildage | looks good, anoob |
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| 21:40.15 | jhutchins | !fglrx |
| 21:40.16 | dpkg | fglrx / AMD Catalyst is the proprietary display driver for AMD Radeon R9 200 series, Radeon R7 200 series, Radeon HD 8000/7000/6000/5000 and FirePro graphic processing units. To install fglrx, see https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary or ask me about <fglrx dkms>. This driver is incompatible with the GNOME desktop of Debian 8 "Jessie" due to lack of EGL support (ref. §5.11 <jessie release notes>), use the <radeon> driver instead. |
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| 22:05.24 | rick342034 | any recommendation for this ? [pulseaudio] main.c: User-configured server at localhost:59147, refusing to start/autospawn |
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| 22:11.33 | fagbodildage | rick342034: multiple logins and over the network? |
| 22:12.35 | rick342034 | fagbodildage: cant be |
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| 22:13.07 | fagbodildage | rick342034: can't be whut? |
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| 22:13.26 | rick342034 | multiple logins I mean |
| 22:14.19 | fagbodildage | what I mean is do you have more than one user trying to use pulseaudio at once? |
| 22:14.34 | rick342034 | no, that is what I am trying to say |
| 22:15.05 | KTL | my wifi on debian stopped working by upgrading. Turned out that polkit configuration in /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.policy prevented it from working. |
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| 22:15.50 | KTL | i wasted a day figuring that out, i consider it a bug |
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| 22:16.48 | KTL | same story goes for the suspend-functionality, that was also prevented by some polkit issue |
| 22:17.13 | fagbodildage | KTL: upgrading to jessie or stretch? |
| 22:17.17 | KTL | jessie |
| 22:17.31 | KTL | from a one month older jessie |
| 22:17.42 | fagbodildage | younger* |
| 22:17.54 | fagbodildage | unless it was a downgrade |
| 22:18.03 | KTL | mmm ... testing is jessie right? |
| 22:18.08 | fagbodildage | I had some polkit issues too, got quite messy for a while |
| 22:18.18 | KTL | owww testing! |
| 22:18.53 | KTL | i went to the latest testing , so you are right, must be stretch now |
| 22:18.53 | fagbodildage | jessie is stable now |
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| 22:19.30 | fagbodildage | istr to fix it I had to more or less rip out the whole system and reinstall piecewise |
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| 22:20.05 | fagbodildage | still none the wiser as to what the "actual" problem was |
| 22:20.10 | KTL | oh ... i managed to just put a bunch of <allow_inactive>yes</allow_inactive> and similar-lines in those config-files |
| 22:20.20 | mdim | hi all |
| 22:20.22 | KTL | and that did it magically |
| 22:20.23 | KTL | oi |
| 22:20.24 | mdim | I was curious - who's behind these Docker image builds available at https://hub.docker.com/_/debian/ ? |
| 22:20.49 | MrFrood | fagbodildage: this is why most sane Debian users don't touch testing for a good long while after a stable release :-| |
| 22:21.08 | fagbodildage | MrFrood: sometimes you just gotta have the good stuff |
| 22:21.26 | KTL | MrFrood, :D i should have some red alert for debian releases then :D |
| 22:22.06 | KTL | ok, good night, thanks for the portion of sanity :) |
| 22:22.15 | MrFrood | fagbodildage: at this point it would be aner to use sid than testing |
| 22:22.37 | MrFrood | s/aner/saner/ |
| 22:22.43 | fagbodildage | noted, Froodster |
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| 22:23.52 | MrFrood | fagbodildage: probally worth noting that #debian-next on the oftc server has dedicated testing/unstable support |
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| 22:36.55 | blurkis | when was last debian stable released? |
| 22:37.44 | blurkis | nevermind, found it |
| 22:37.48 | c0fe | many years ago |
| 22:37.51 | c0fe | hundreds if not thousands |
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| 22:52.34 | dylo | hi, i have bizarre problem with my fresh install of parsix (debian based) linux. it not install grub to my first HD (sda) it install to the sdb where the main linux install is so... |
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| 22:55.00 | dylo | my old "retro" pc dont have option in bios where i can change boot order, so how i can install the grub to the sda where is windows too? ;) |
| 22:55.05 | g00se | !based on |
| 22:55.05 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 22:58.25 | abrotman | dylo: #parsix or ##linux, we don't support things other than Debian here |
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| 22:59.37 | dylo | yeah, this was first what comes my mind so ;) i just testing these, nothing too serious. |
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| 23:00.26 | maty_ | Hello, I am trying to make ipsec tunnel with my debian server and draytek router. Everything looks fine and tunnel is online, but I can't connect from one subnet to the second one...There must be some routing issue. Can somebody help ? |
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| 23:05.41 | maty_ | Please can somebody help me with that...I am working on it for whole day and can't figure it out, how to fix it. |
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| 23:06.16 | crhylove | Anybody know how to configure a /16 in isc-dhcp-server? |
| 23:06.18 | darsie | re |
| 23:06.23 | crhylove | My Google-Fu is failing me. |
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| 23:14.49 | midacts | is anyone able to successfully install `bacula-client` on debian 8? |
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| 23:22.03 | maty_ | Can somebody help me with routing issues on ipsec? |
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| 23:24.09 | logan0405 | why does chrome render youtube videos way better than any other browser on debian? just tried switching back to iceweasel but its unusable for youtube on my netbook |
| 23:24.46 | cra1g321 | think chrome uses html5 video now not flash |
| 23:25.02 | logan0405 | iceweasel does too |
| 23:25.17 | cra1g321 | ah yeah was thinking that soon after i typed that :/ |
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| 23:25.44 | cra1g321 | shouts "death to flash" and returns to the shadows |
| 23:25.46 | darsie | I broke jessie boot by moving /boot to my boot partition sda1, mounted on /boot. Now it says "volume group vg1 not found" and drops me to an initramfs shell. wewe (?) asked me for the output of lvs: "No volume groups found" (from within lvm). What can I do? |
| 23:26.16 | fagbodildage | darsie: get a rescue disk, chroot, reinstall grub |
| 23:26.34 | darsie | ok ... booting knoppix ... |
| 23:26.50 | fagbodildage | logan0405: chrome has flash built in |
| 23:27.03 | fagbodildage | and google pay the piper to keep it working |
| 23:27.04 | logan0405 | wish I could use iceweasel though, way more configurable and flexible. just objectively much slower. and its HTML5 videos |
| 23:27.15 | logan0405 | both is html5 |
| 23:27.17 | fagbodildage | logan0405: investigate pepperflash |
| 23:27.28 | logan0405 | huh |
| 23:27.31 | logan0405 | does it involve html5? |
| 23:27.36 | logan0405 | i almost never watch videos w/ flash |
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| 23:30.10 | fagbodildage | so... use chromium |
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| 23:32.34 | g00se | beginning to lament the 'loss' of flashplugin-nonfree to Html5. He used to be able to kill remote noise easily. What does he do now? |
| 23:33.03 | darsie | How do I mount /dev/vg1/root? It is displayed by lvdisplay, but doesn't exist? |
| 23:33.30 | darsie | s/?/. |
| 23:34.03 | maty_ | Is there a way how to make ipsec tunnel work when both sites have same gateway? |
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| 23:35.10 | fagbodildage | darsie: http://linuxers.org/howto/how-mount-linux-lvm-volume-partitions-linux |
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| 23:36.02 | cxd13 | logan0405: i have no issues with youtube using iceweasel |
| 23:36.17 | cxd13 | and i use both flash and html5 |
| 23:36.30 | logan0405 | i didnt say its broken |
| 23:36.40 | logan0405 | I just said chrome is objectively so much faster at rendering html5 video |
| 23:36.43 | cxd13 | i didn't either. i said "no issues" |
| 23:36.56 | cxd13 | slowness being an issue |
| 23:37.16 | logan0405 | i mean from your perspective |
| 23:37.21 | Thorax | Hi guys. Quick question. I hope. |
| 23:37.29 | logan0405 | but with a computer where your processing power is scarce, you really notice |
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| 23:38.02 | Thorax | I was thinking of installing Debian onto a 32GB USB flash. Would i be able to remove it from one computer and just plug it into another and carry on as normal? |
| 23:38.22 | cxd13 | have you tried minitube? i prefer that to going to using a browser to access youtube anyways |
| 23:38.45 | darsie | Hmm, chroot can't run bash. Guess I have to use a 64 bit rescue CD, right? |
| 23:39.15 | fagbodildage | darsie: seems logical |
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| 23:39.43 | fagbodildage | Thorax: I've had some success with it, but ymmv depending on bios/efi |
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| 23:39.57 | pycoderf | anyone know how i can get python 3.5 in debian? |
| 23:40.05 | darsie | I had jessie/64 live on a usb stick, but it didn't work. |
| 23:40.16 | crhylove | Thorax: You are talking about a persistent instance. There are a lot of ways to go abou that. The easiest GUI for it I've seen is: multiboot USB |
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| 23:40.33 | logan0405 | cxd13, no I haven't. I'll take a look |
| 23:40.49 | squinty | Thorax, don't install any proprietary video drivers if using it on other machines too |
| 23:41.03 | logan0405 | dat dependency list on minitube though lol |
| 23:41.07 | fagbodildage | pycoderf: by installing it? |
| 23:41.19 | cxd13 | logan0405: get the .deb from their website. as far as i know the version in stable repos is broken by google due to changes they made to youtube |
| 23:41.26 | Thorax | squinty, Arent you able to just disable them when switching to another? |
| 23:41.29 | logan0405 | ah |
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| 23:42.04 | Thorax | I think its ubuntu maybe. Where you can just choose to use them or not. With a simple checkbox |
| 23:42.08 | midacts | Anyone able to install bacula-client successfully? |
| 23:42.31 | squinty | Thorax, never tried to be honest. |
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| 23:42.49 | Thorax | OK, no worries. Just playing about anyway. Cheers! |
| 23:42.55 | pycoderf | stupid repos need to catch up |
| 23:43.08 | cxd13 | Thorax: boot into the debian installer from a cd/usb, with the 32GB drive connected to. then install debian onto it and it will be what you want |
| 23:43.18 | cxd13 | but if it's usb 2.0 it will have slow performance |
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| 23:43.33 | fagbodildage | pycoderf: yeah, it's surely the repos that are stupid |
| 23:43.42 | Thorax | cxd13, Yes I understand all that... What i was asking, was if i would be able to then use the 32GB install on another pc |
| 23:43.55 | cxd13 | Thorax: yes |
| 23:44.18 | pycoderf | why is 3.5 bad? |
| 23:44.21 | Sander^home | Hi. What would it take to use as microsoft have done with windows containers in windows 10, and implement lxc containers in debian for all apps? |
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| 23:45.35 | fagbodildage | pycoderf: do you have a sensible question? I'd like to help, really I would |
| 23:45.46 | pycoderf | why are people so against python 3? |
| 23:45.58 | pycoderf | legit question |
| 23:46.06 | pycoderf | it is different but the future |
| 23:46.26 | fagbodildage | people just don't want to update their scripts from 2.x is all |
| 23:46.27 | Sander^home | Have anyone heard about lxc containers? It's used for virtualizing without the memory overhead. |
| 23:46.37 | pycoderf | fagbodildage: so laziness? |
| 23:46.52 | fagbodildage | pycoderf: politer to call it "inertia" |
| 23:46.55 | Thorax | Another question. Any idea why IceWeasel is so damn outdated? It doesnt seem to want to update to 41.0 |
| 23:46.55 | Sander^home | So its basicly shares the same kernel, but is isolated alot more. |
| 23:47.11 | cxd13 | Thorax: mozilla.debian.net |
| 23:47.13 | pycoderf | we have a catch 22. nobody devs for it because nobody uses it. and nobody uses it because nobody devs for it |
| 23:47.13 | fagbodildage | pycoderf: if you want to install python3.5 I believe you will find it in the sid repos |
| 23:47.40 | cxd13 | iceweasel is not outdated. yours may be |
| 23:47.44 | pycoderf | appears to also be in stretch |
| 23:47.54 | fagbodildage | prolly, yeah |
| 23:48.09 | pycoderf | just seems silly people corner themselves in a corner |
| 23:48.32 | Sander^home | Is there a dev channel for debian? |
| 23:48.33 | Thorax | OK, well according to Debian I have the latest. Yet its only 38.3.0. Which is really old |
| 23:48.54 | CutMeOwnThroat | Thorax, it should work as far as you have the relevant firmware... you might have a look at what the live CD do, but seems they mainly bother about not writing to the CD. the kernel detects the hardware on every boot anyway. X may be a problem but may be autodetected... make sure you use disk uuids in the fstab... dunno about the efi/uefi, haven't played with that yet |
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| 23:49.24 | Thorax | Cheers CutMeOwnThroat |
| 23:49.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | Thorax, but you should be able to write the live image directly to disk https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ ... they're hybrid usb/DVD images... that would probably the easiest way |
| 23:50.01 | cxd13 | Thorax: i already gave you the solution. mozilla.debian.net |
| 23:50.03 | CutMeOwnThroat | I haven't tried that, though |
| 23:50.17 | cxd13 | add the repo. get latest iceweasel |
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| 23:50.36 | iamk | woop got winxp running on vm |
| 23:50.38 | iamk | \m/ |
| 23:50.41 | Thorax | I saw that cxd13. Im reading it. Still dont understand why it wouldnt install the latest anyway |
| 23:51.09 | cxd13 | Thorax: you are using debian stable. i'd be surprised if any of your software is the latest |
| 23:51.27 | cxd13 | you are using the last stable ESR, that's why |
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| 23:52.01 | Thorax | debian-live-8.2.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso This is the iso i used |
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| 23:52.12 | Thorax | Is that the stable release? |
| 23:52.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | Thorax, it's definitely possible... I guess the answer depends more on how exotic a hardware you try it with and how picky you are about the results (e.g. getting full proprietary support for more than one graphics card... I imagine that two different/incompatible/unusual nvidia cards may be not so easy to get to work on the switch) |
| 23:52.20 | cxd13 | Thorax: yes |
| 23:52.37 | cxd13 | debian 8 is stable |
| 23:52.52 | squinty | Sander^home, !alis |
| 23:52.55 | Thorax | How is that different to this http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/8.2.0-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ |
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| 23:53.03 | Thorax | Is there a more bleeding edge version? |
| 23:53.08 | darsie | debian 8 is named stable. Gives me trouble. |
| 23:54.02 | cxd13 | Thorax: that's 8.2 also |
| 23:54.11 | cxd13 | same version |
| 23:54.13 | darsie | Thorax: There is testing, unstable and experimental. |
| 23:55.13 | Thorax | Well the one I used was from here http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/release/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/ Different location to the one i just posted. You can see why I would assume they were different |
| 23:55.14 | cxd13 | add this to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:55.16 | cxd13 | deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ jessie-backports iceweasel-release |
| 23:55.17 | Sander^home | squinty: ? |
| 23:56.00 | squinty | !alis Sander^home |
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| 23:56.27 | Sander^home | squinty: whats that supposed to mean? |
| 23:56.47 | squinty | Sander^home, just type !alis in here you should get a blurb on how to find channels on freenode |
| 23:56.57 | Sander^home | Ah. ok. |
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| 23:57.05 | Sander^home | !alis |
| 23:57.06 | dpkg | â¬â« ALIS? WHO THE F IS ALIS? alis is a services bot that can help you find channels on the <freenode> irc network. "/msg alis help list" for usage information or ask about alis in #freenode. Example: «/msg alis list #debian*» or «/msg alis list *linux*» |
| 23:57.14 | squinty | Sander^home, and of course there is also oftc irc network. lots of deb channels there too |
| 23:57.28 | c0fe | what's wrong with you dpkg |
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| 23:58.39 | Thorax | Cant i just install the official firefox cxd13 |
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| 23:59.13 | Sander^home | Are anyone able to invite me to #debian-next ? |
| 23:59.28 | blly | Thorax, then you won't get the benefits of the backports for Iceweasel (security mostly I think. . ?) |
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