| 00:00.03 | arahael | One of the better GUI's I've found in linux backup systems though, is backintime, but I don't like the way it works. (rsync based, and I don't really seem to have confidence in it either) |
| 00:00.11 | jeddi | arahael: suits me fine - gui for backup just seems wrong unless you're an end-user and we're trying to present a point-and-click option just to manage a small amount of files that you're intimately familiar with. |
| 00:00.16 | arahael | Plus I wasn't immediately sur ehow to automate it. |
| 00:00.20 | squinty | sigdk, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libvdpau/+bug/1300215 may or may not be of help :-) |
| 00:00.28 | marioxcc | arahael: Ok, I'm reading the manual. |
| 00:00.38 | arahael | jeddi: :) |
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| 00:00.53 | arahael | jeddi: Sometimes I wonder if a GUI for obnam would be good. :) |
| 00:00.55 | sigdk | squinty, I saw that... they don't give any answer |
| 00:00.58 | jeddi | hmm, i think i looked at backintime ages back for my other half's laptop .. to dump across to a VM I was running and/or a locally attached USB drive - can't recall, but something about it was really messy. we're on kde, but i don't think it was that. |
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| 00:02.22 | DanDare | Hi. I want to add a custom system environment variable placed at /etc/profile.d. I created a file there and added mine 'export PATH'. But then /etc/profile is ignored (or overwrite). How to add system variables without overwriting the default ones? |
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| 00:02.37 | arahael | jeddi: I do wish that obnam worked nicely on the mac os x, so that I could have a consistent backup with the house computers, but timemachine is really fantastic. |
| 00:02.43 | arahael | jeddi: So it's not a huge loss. |
| 00:02.48 | DanDare | I mean, under /etc/profile.d |
| 00:03.00 | jeddi | DanDare: you should just be able to createa dandare.sh file in /etc/profile.d and have it included |
| 00:03.24 | Azrael_- | for backups i love rsnapshot |
| 00:05.23 | DanDare | jeddi, but thats what I did. dandare.sh is "PATH='/usr/local/custom' | export PATH" but then the default variables wont work for new sessions |
| 00:05.45 | DanDare | jeddi, ones usually placed on /etc/profile |
| 00:05.47 | jeddi | DanDare: oh - looks like it may be an issue with shell - are you using bash? |
| 00:05.51 | arahael | Azrael_-: Yeah - backups inerently need to match the use case. rsnapshot can be fantastic for certain use cases. |
| 00:05.54 | DanDare | jeddi, yeah |
| 00:06.03 | DanDare | jeddi, the old /bin/bash |
| 00:06.14 | Azrael_- | correct |
| 00:06.21 | jeddi | DanDare: you want this for all users of the system? interactive as well as non-interactive sessions i'm guessing? |
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| 00:07.02 | DanDare | jeddi, yeah all sessions. Just like PATH directives on /etc/profile but ones I set (besides the default ones) |
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| 00:07.42 | jeddi | arahael: i occassionally have to slum it with windows ... i tend to try to constrain my shared stuff on those platforms to a handful of git-repository-sized lumps, and handle sync & backup in that way. bit messy, doesn't scale, but also discourages me from spreading out too much cruft on ntfs. : ) |
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| 00:08.23 | jeddi | DanDare: did you confirm that if you modify /etc/profile, they also get over-written / ignored? if so it's not a profile issue per se, but an non-interactive shell issue (perhaps). |
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| 00:08.34 | marioxcc | level |
| 00:08.44 | marioxcc | wrong keystrokes, sorry |
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| 00:08.55 | jeddi | DanDare: did you find out where profile.d/* are sourced? i can't see the reference in /etc/profile, which I'd assumed they'd be called from. |
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| 00:09.26 | DanDare | jeddi, I didnt modified /etc/profile in any way, just added stuff to /etc/profile.d. But like I said, doing this sessions will ignore /etc/profile |
| 00:09.27 | arahael | jeddi: :) Windows does have a decent backup system as well. |
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| 00:10.03 | jeddi | DanDare: so /etc/profile.d/ scripts are sourced *when a user logs in* (apparently). |
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| 00:10.26 | DanDare | jeddi, maybe i need to do 'export' just once? Like, i cant do two 'export' that sums up my settings? |
| 00:10.38 | jeddi | arahael: i really have trouble summoning up the energy to explore many native win32 tools - they're just so .. hmm .. soul-destroying. |
| 00:10.44 | DanDare | jeddi, yeah it seems so |
| 00:10.44 | arahael | jeddi: I know someone who keeps everything in dropbox though. Not a bad idea for a backup, really, provided at least one computer backs up dropbox. |
| 00:11.00 | arahael | jeddi: Windows 8, 8.1, and 10 has "File History". |
| 00:11.08 | arahael | jeddi: Built-in. |
| 00:11.29 | jeddi | arahael: similar approach, i guess. i have three machines that share this git repo, which is hosted up on a vps ... which means i'm fairly safe from theft, fire, or drunken fingers. |
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| 00:11.53 | arahael | jeddi: I'd back that repo as well. |
| 00:11.55 | jeddi | DanDare: so it looks like that's not the place for non-interactive / non-login scripts. sorry. |
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| 00:12.27 | jeddi | arahael: it's effectively backed by the three machines that keep copies (and make chagnes to) to the repo. much fun. : ) |
| 00:12.41 | arahael | jeddi: Well, I've had git get corrupted somehow. |
| 00:12.50 | jeddi | DanDare: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/6.3/postlfs/profile.html |
| 00:12.58 | jeddi | arahael: were you using a GUI? ; ) |
| 00:13.18 | DanDare | jeddi, hmm. I can make something in /etc/profile.d retrieving actual variables, adding my own then reset export. It sounds better than editing /etc/profile, right? |
| 00:13.19 | arahael | jeddi: We were using github (or was it gitlab?) at the time. |
| 00:13.27 | DanDare | jeddi, oh ok. Will check that, ty |
| 00:13.58 | jeddi | DanDare: gives a nice overview of all the files. bit under-stated in places. |
| 00:14.25 | jeddi | DanDare: yeah - i'd try to avoid editing /etc/profile unless you're using a config management system to track such changes (and enforce them) |
| 00:14.46 | jeddi | DanDare: plus it's obviously not our designers' intent that we fiddle with that file directly :) |
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| 00:21.39 | DanDare | jeddi, ok. Thank you |
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| 00:23.13 | jeddi | DanDare: sorry i can't give a better answer. sounds like a fun afternoon project at your end to work it out :) |
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| 00:27.15 | DanDare | jeddi, and trying to get things running, the right way :p |
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| 01:29.36 | A112358 | I downloaded manually and did: sudo dpkg -i unrar_5.2.7-0.1_amd64.deb |
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| 01:53.00 | Nlaz | Hi everybody |
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| 01:54.18 | Nlaz | What LSM is best to configure SELinux kernel 4.2.3, Tomoyo, AppArmor, Smack ??? |
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| 01:57.01 | jelly | Nlaz: that question makes little sense -- you have to investigate what they do, and decide if you want to invest in configuring your system to work with any. |
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| 02:01.16 | Nlaz | <jelly>but if I had to set some for some reason which I recommend |
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| 02:02.32 | jelly | Nlaz: what kind of reason? |
| 02:03.53 | Nlaz | <jelly>set it to select only the hardware available in the machine |
| 02:04.17 | jelly | none of those LSM are hardware specific, Nlaz |
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| 02:06.30 | Nlaz | <jelly>forgiveness, the idea is to safeguard the distribution debian what more can |
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| 02:08.38 | jelly | Nlaz: the kernel part of an access-control mechanism like AppArmor or SELinux isn't worth a lot if you don't have actual rule sets in place. Debian does not come with a complete (or really useful) set of rules for any of those, and making them on your own is LOT more work than building a kernel. |
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| 02:12.08 | JJG3 | So how much of a reduced quality does interrupting the Debian overwriting during the install give? |
| 02:12.19 | JJG3 | For encryption |
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| 02:15.12 | Nlaz | <jelly>somehow or other have to set one at the time, because set while four are not feasible, please according to your experience you can tell me where I can start by |
| 02:15.29 | jelly | Nlaz: enabling kernel support for a LSM or three won't give you _any_ security on its own. |
| 02:16.16 | jelly | Nlaz: so you might as well disable them all until you investigate how they actually work. |
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| 03:35.53 | Chocolate_Chip | I keep getting an apt errror saying that some files can't be downloaded due to a hash sum mishmash |
| 03:36.11 | somiaj | Chocolate_Chip: have you rerun apt-get update? |
| 03:36.17 | somiaj | Also what mirror are you using? |
| 03:36.41 | Chocolate_Chip | Yes, I run apt-get update which is where I get the error. A number of packafe lists can not be downloaded because of this |
| 03:36.48 | Chocolate_Chip | I am using httpredir.debian.org |
| 03:37.12 | somiaj | hmm, wonder if you are just being redirected to a mirror with a corrupt file. You could try a different mirror |
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| 03:37.44 | Chocolate_Chip | W: Failed to fetch http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/i18n/Translation-en Hash Sum mismatch |
| 03:37.53 | Chocolate_Chip | W: Failed to fetch http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/contrib/binary-i386/Packages Hash Sum mismatch |
| 03:38.09 | somiaj | sounds like a corrupt file on the mirror. Try another. |
| 03:38.11 | Chocolate_Chip | it seems to actuallydiffer with each time I run apt update |
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| 03:38.18 | FI_OpwK | yeah. |
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| 03:38.34 | somiaj | the redirector tries to always give you a healthy mirror but it can't catch everything |
| 03:39.09 | Chocolate_Chip | Ran again, it finally worked |
| 03:39.10 | Chocolate_Chip | Weird |
| 03:39.13 | Chocolate_Chip | Now it says this |
| 03:39.14 | Chocolate_Chip | Calculating upgrade... The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: |
| 03:39.14 | Chocolate_Chip | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:39.27 | somiaj | that is because the redirector can point to a different mirror each time you access it |
| 03:39.27 | Chocolate_Chip | Is this bad? I don't understand this |
| 03:39.43 | FI_OpwK | just means you have unneeded packages |
| 03:39.54 | Chocolate_Chip | Yes, but the package is the kernel |
| 03:39.59 | FI_OpwK | apt-get auto-clean |
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| 03:40.15 | Chocolate_Chip | I know how to remove it. My concernis that it is the linux kernel |
| 03:40.20 | somiaj | The package that depended on linux-source-4.1 is no longer installed (or been upgraded) so a package that was Auto installed is now no longer required by any other package. |
| 03:40.34 | somiaj | no it is just the source code, it is not the kernel. You probabaly needed it for some module you compiled |
| 03:40.39 | Chocolate_Chip | oh |
| 03:40.40 | Chocolate_Chip | ok |
| 03:40.45 | somiaj | you can also change it from auto to manual and it will stop telling you it isn't needed |
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| 03:42.29 | FI_OpwK | somiaj: what's the best way to change a listening port? |
| 03:42.36 | FI_OpwK | or add one. |
| 03:43.26 | Rusty1 | for what application? |
| 03:43.33 | FI_OpwK | postgresql |
| 03:43.59 | somiaj | modify the config file of the app, that is where it would be configurable (and usually is) |
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| 03:46.06 | FI_OpwK | http://pastebin.com/Rg68aTm9 << output from ss -ant I want 127.0.0.1 to listen on postgresql port 5432 also. |
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| 03:47.50 | somiaj | yea look at the documentationfor the postgresql configuration file. I don't know what sort of option needed to make it listen on multiple ports. There most likely is one |
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| 03:50.36 | FI_OpwK | Ill try that. |
| 03:50.58 | FI_OpwK | I figured so, but it didn't seem like a consistent fix. |
| 03:52.13 | somiaj | FI_OpwK: apps open ports to listen on, so it is a configuration within the app. The only other option is have iptables forward port 5432 to the one that postgresql is listening on, but I would be surprised if postgresql wasn't able to be configured to listen on multiple ports |
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| 03:52.40 | darsie | automount isn't working again. |
| 03:52.40 | FI_OpwK | makes sense. |
| 03:54.24 | Dan39 | has debian ever had automount setup by default? |
| 03:54.55 | somiaj | Dan39: desktop enviorments will have it setup |
| 03:55.02 | Dan39 | legit |
| 03:55.03 | darsie | Dan39: it worked in jessie without setting it up explicitly. I may have activated it in xfce. |
| 03:55.24 | Dan39 | forgot people use debian for desktops too :P |
| 03:55.55 | somiaj | there are various packages in debian that will do automounting. Desktop Enviorments just pull them in the mess of packages they use |
| 03:56.35 | darsie | here's the syslog: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=vRPV21p5 |
| 03:58.13 | Dan39 | doesnt dbus do automounting? |
| 03:58.23 | somiaj | darsie: what desktop enivorment are you using? Can you think of anything that happened between when it worked and when it didn't? |
| 03:58.35 | darsie | I also never figured it out how to mount it manually so I can import and delete photos as normal user. |
| 03:58.51 | darsie | somiaj: xfce. I installed stellarium and flightgear. |
| 03:58.55 | Dan39 | mounting manually is very easy |
| 03:59.18 | darsie | Dan39: How do you change permissions so a normal user can read and delete the photos? |
| 03:59.29 | Dan39 | thats the annoying part haha |
| 03:59.35 | somiaj | well I wold look at udev and its logs or figure out what tool xfce4 uses for automounting. Or just learn to mount things mnaully. |
| 03:59.48 | Dan39 | there is mount options for it, thats the part i always forget <_< |
| 03:59.50 | somiaj | It is usually considered very inscure to give rights as a normal user. Just use sudo. |
| 04:00.01 | Dan39 | thats what i mean, udev <_< |
| 04:00.22 | somiaj | you can modify /etc/fstab to allow users to mount very specific mounts, but you have to configure each specific mount you want the user to have the ability to use |
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| 04:00.48 | darsie | I really want automounting. manual mounting is a hassle. |
| 04:01.18 | FI_OpwK | That's the life of linux my friend. |
| 04:01.29 | arahael | Not really. |
| 04:01.32 | darsie | Ahh, reboot helped last time, IIRC. |
| 04:01.35 | darsie | I'll reboot ... |
| 04:01.38 | somiaj | darsie: there are lots of tools that do this. I'm unsure the specific one for xfce4, maybe ask an xfce4 specific channel, look it up. |
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| 04:02.00 | somiaj | darsie: there are also other tools that do autmo mounting like usbmount |
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| 04:02.30 | lawyer | hi |
| 04:02.36 | veek | what's the man page for The provided probe points are listed |
| 04:02.36 | veek | in the stapprobes(3), tapset::*(3stap), and probe::*(3stap) man pages. |
| 04:02.45 | veek | do i do man tapset? |
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| 04:13.52 | FI_OpwK | you could check the ss man pages maybe |
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| 04:29.42 | darsie | 06:07:02 <darsie> automounting works after reboot. |
| 04:29.42 | darsie | 06:08:36 <darsie> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mY8ViB1t |
| 04:29.42 | darsie | 06:13:06 <darsie> damn, it's not working again :(. |
| 04:29.42 | darsie | 06:14:27 <darsie> mounted manually and deleted photos as root. |
| 04:29.42 | darsie | 06:18:49 <darsie> automounting worked intermittently in wheezy, too. |
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| 04:30.19 | FI_OpwK | uh... |
| 04:30.20 | darsie | accedently posted that on ircnet ... |
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| 04:35.10 | nbags | hi can anyone help me with this? i have an old x40 with an e1000 as my storage server. Its connected to a gigabit switch with a cat6 cable, but it flips back to 100mbps for some reason. if i unplug and replug the cable it goes back to 1000mbps and that lasts a day or 2 or whatever then its back to 100mbps. |
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| 04:37.19 | FI_OpwK | remote? |
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| 04:41.38 | FI_OpwK | nbags: have you logged your stats? |
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| 04:58.35 | nbags | nbags, not really. i cant see any errors in ifconfig or dmesg ... but i dont really know what to do other than that |
| 04:58.42 | nbags | FI_OpwK, ^^ |
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| 05:06.01 | FI_OpwK | nbags: is your system 32bit? |
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| 05:10.14 | veXx | anyone got a fix for xorg/kde mem leak? |
| 05:10.32 | veXx | 3.5g after being on for a day is redic |
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| 05:22.45 | veek | anyone familiar with systemtap |
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| 05:25.42 | nbags | FI_OpwK, yes, 32-bit |
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| 05:31.47 | FI_OpwK | nbags: servers are rarely restarted but you're not gonna get more than 132mbps |
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| 05:33.54 | nbags | nbags, i get around 200 i think. speed drops by half when it flips back to 100mbps |
| 05:34.01 | nbags | FI_OpwK, ^^ |
| 05:36.06 | nbags | its coming off a usb2 drive anyway so its never going to be great. still beats most of those crappy little consumer nas boxes. and doesnt cost me anything |
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| 05:36.31 | FI_OpwK | true |
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| 06:03.58 | pragomer1 | anybody with good libreoffice-skills here? in the #libreoffice channel nobody is answering :-) |
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| 06:13.34 | FI_OpwK | pragomer1: what's up? |
| 06:15.32 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: Hi :-) can I post my test-ods here somehow? |
| 06:16.11 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: ah wait I can send it to you, right? |
| 06:16.27 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: is that ok? |
| 06:16.36 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: so I can better explain my problem? |
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| 06:20.10 | FI_OpwK | use pastebin |
| 06:20.15 | pragomer1 | ok, wait.. |
| 06:20.54 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: Can I also paste a FILE in paste.bin ? |
| 06:21.11 | FI_OpwK | the contents, sure. |
| 06:21.53 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: also libre-office-calc with formulas? |
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| 06:24.13 | FI_OpwK | one at a time so things wont look jumbled |
| 06:24.54 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6myrcfsx_zFNlRjanRTeXBEbnc/view?usp=sharing |
| 06:25.17 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: ok, thats the file |
| 06:25.21 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: do you got it? |
| 06:25.35 | FI_OpwK | i see it, but that's not pastebin |
| 06:26.13 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: I know.. pastebin did not allow to upload ods files. |
| 06:26.18 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: sorry |
| 06:26.31 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: could I ask you my question |
| 06:26.35 | FI_OpwK | sure |
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| 06:29.23 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: ahm.. you see the ods is about working time... the summary of my overtime is about 36 hours and 45 minutes at the moment |
| 06:29.35 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: my working day is 5 hours and 45 minutes |
| 06:30.10 | pragomer1 | the summary of 36:45 works fine.. in column E4 I wanted to have the summary in days hours minutes |
| 06:30.50 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: so I would have to device the 36:45 trough 5:45... to get the full days... but letting remain the hours and minutes like HH:MM |
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| 06:30.56 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: did I explain it clear? |
| 06:30.59 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: :-) |
| 06:31.41 | FI_OpwK | you want the format to read d/h/m |
| 06:31.56 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: yes |
| 06:32.10 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: but the day is not 24h but 5h 45min |
| 06:35.01 | FI_OpwK | then it's not a full day |
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| 06:37.44 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: but you understand my plans? |
| 06:37.58 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: I have to work 5h 45min every day |
| 06:38.12 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: my overtime skonto is 36h 45minutes |
| 06:38.28 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: If I want to take a day for free it costs me 5h 45min |
| 06:38.31 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: understand? |
| 06:40.07 | FI_OpwK | https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/4/47/CG41-CalcGuideLO.pdf |
| 06:40.55 | pragomer1 | FI_OpwK: ok. thanks |
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| 07:39.04 | hypermist | how to configure so that my ifconfig stays there |
| 07:39.12 | hypermist | and doesnt vanish each restart |
| 07:40.03 | StaticLNX | "/msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 07:40.15 | StaticLNX | oops |
| 07:40.19 | hypermist | lol |
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| 07:41.47 | StaticLNX | hypermist, I didnt catch your entire message but did you configure "/etc/network/interfaces"? |
| 07:43.01 | hypermist | StaticLNX, i dont kno how to |
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| 07:44.31 | StaticLNX | hypermist, https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
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| 07:54.21 | StaticLNX | Anyone know samba is gone/has changed in 8.2? I'm either blind or the samba package is gone or not called samba >.< |
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| 07:54.47 | loki_ | h |
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| 07:55.53 | loki_ | hi |
| 07:56.01 | StaticLNX | Hi |
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| 08:00.08 | shawn1 | StaticLNX: samba-server |
| 08:00.30 | shawn1 | oh |
| 08:00.35 | shawn1 | no, its just samba |
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| 08:01.01 | StaticLNX | hmmm |
| 08:01.07 | shawn1 | ,v samba |
| 08:01.08 | judd | Package: samba on amd64 -- squeeze: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 2:3.5.6~dfsg-3squeeze12; squeeze-backports: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5; wheezy: 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u5; wheezy-backports: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-2; stretch: 2:4.1.17+dfsg-4; sid: 2:4.1.20+dfsg-1; |
| 08:01.09 | judd | experimental: 2:4.3.0+dfsg-2 |
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| 08:03.00 | StaticLNX | static@LNX-DEB82:~$ sudo apt-get install samba |
| 08:03.10 | StaticLNX | Package samba is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 08:03.10 | StaticLNX | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 08:03.10 | StaticLNX | is only available from another source |
| 08:03.37 | babilen | StaticLNX: Could you paste the output of "apt-cache policy samba" and "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}" to http://paste.debian.net (and pleaste don't paste into the channel or you will get (automatically) kicked |
| 08:04.08 | babilen | ) |
| 08:04.18 | hypermist | how to tell the version of my debian ? |
| 08:04.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell hypermist about version |
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| 08:04.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell hypermist -about debian suite |
| 08:04.58 | babilen | (sry) |
| 08:05.02 | hypermist | Lol damnit babilen :p |
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| 08:05.40 | hypermist | okay well im guessing its still debian 7, cause it was an openvz container |
| 08:05.41 | hypermist | xD |
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| 08:11.43 | StaticLNX | babilen, https://paste.debian.net/314335/ |
| 08:12.49 | StaticLNX | hmm |
| 08:12.56 | babilen | StaticLNX: Okay, multiple things: 1. Don't use ftp.debian.org, but a local mirror. You can use ftp.XX.debian.org (with XX being something like de, uk, tw, ... and the country code) or httpredir.debian.org which is a metamirror that chooses the "best" repository for you automagically |
| 08:13.48 | babilen | StaticLNX: 2. You forgot to configure the main repository, so please add something like: "deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ jessie main contrib non-free" to your sources. |
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| 08:14.31 | StaticLNX | ty didnt know about httpredir.debian.org |
| 08:14.34 | babilen | Once you've done that run "apt update" and you should be fine. Please note that dotdeb packages are not supported by us and I wouldn't necessarily use them if you don't have due to broken PHP code that you have to support |
| 08:15.02 | StaticLNX | k |
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| 08:42.42 | StaticLNX | babilen, ITS ALLLIVVEE!!!!!!! Buwahahaha *evil laugh |
| 08:43.13 | StaticLNX | Thanks for the help babilen |
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| 09:13.22 | ErtanERBEK | hi all |
| 09:13.37 | leonarth | hi |
| 09:13.45 | ErtanERBEK | I want add pstate no_turbo option to add grub loader as karnel paramaters |
| 09:13.49 | ErtanERBEK | how I can do that |
| 09:14.10 | ErtanERBEK | example, ro quit no_turbo=1 |
| 09:14.13 | ErtanERBEK | as that |
| 09:14.29 | ErtanERBEK | I make that before but I can't make at my new fresh install |
| 09:14.37 | ErtanERBEK | actually I forget how make that |
| 09:15.26 | ErtanERBEK | because of that I makeing with crontab with @reboot paramater But I want use that as kernel paramaters at boot time |
| 09:15.32 | ErtanERBEK | anyone can assit me about this issue ? |
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| 09:15.53 | babilen | Edit /etc/default/grub to your liking and run "update-grub2" |
| 09:16.01 | ErtanERBEK | :) |
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| 09:16.12 | ErtanERBEK | I know how I can add any paramater to boot time |
| 09:16.25 | babilen | (also read the documentation referenced therein) |
| 09:16.29 | ErtanERBEK | but I don't rememer pstate not_turbo how write |
| 09:16.48 | babilen | Never used it, so .. |
| 09:16.58 | ErtanERBEK | :) |
| 09:17.32 | ErtanERBEK | "quiet i915.modeset=1 vga=791" |
| 09:17.45 | ErtanERBEK | this is work |
| 09:18.04 | ErtanERBEK | but I don't remmember no_turbo how add that also no_turbo=1 not work :D |
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| 09:19.28 | ErtanERBEK | I found some article :D |
| 09:19.42 | ErtanERBEK | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2249643 |
| 09:19.45 | ErtanERBEK | I will tray |
| 09:19.57 | ErtanERBEK | they use : instead of = |
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| 09:19.59 | ErtanERBEK | no_turbo:0 |
| 09:20.23 | ErtanERBEK | I how that is work and I can start stop turbo feature at boot instead of crontab :D |
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| 09:27.47 | StaticLNX | o.0 |
| 09:27.54 | darsie | . |
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| 09:28.25 | premoboss | i have a couple of wireless ports on my sistem. i wist to torn of one of them to avoid waste of energy. is it possible to "sleep" then? if yes, how to do? |
| 09:30.44 | arahael | premoboss: That's very hardware and driver dependant. |
| 09:30.50 | StaticLNX | premoboss, Pliers, sheets, pillow |
| 09:31.04 | StaticLNX | in that order |
| 09:31.20 | arahael | StaticLNX: Evil. |
| 09:31.50 | premoboss | sarcasm detected |
| 09:31.54 | StaticLNX | arahael, ]=) |
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| 09:38.39 | gryf | hey |
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| 09:41.51 | gryf | Yay. I like finding answer before asking the question :D |
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| 09:45.14 | dutchfish | premoboss, in any case consider this tool https://packages.debian.org/jessie/powertop |
| 09:45.32 | dutchfish | premoboss, so that you can verify your effords |
| 09:45.38 | premoboss | dutchfish, i dont know it, thanks i read about it now. |
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| 09:46.58 | rabbitear | if your effords are not bland, then you shouldn't be in the business of making them |
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| 09:52.51 | premoboss | rabbitear, i dont inderstand the meaning of your sentence ( i am not english native speaker). can you explain deeper? |
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| 09:53.51 | arahael | premoboss: I'm a native speaker, and I find that difficult to understand as well. |
| 09:54.38 | premoboss | i never say "you are not clear", always i start from the base that "i dont understand" |
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| 10:02.48 | cluelessperson | How can I become aquainted with debian and how it works on lower levels? |
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| 10:03.58 | bazhang | the wiki cluelessperson |
| 10:04.08 | bazhang | read it from start to finish |
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| 10:04.44 | dutchfish | cluelessperson, well, you could start at the debian wiki, depending on how that goes, you can ask more specific questions in here. |
| 10:05.16 | dutchfish | cluelessperson, and learn by doing it, that worked for me |
| 10:05.43 | cluelessperson | dutchfish, I mean there's got to be a layout, right? |
| 10:06.20 | cluelessperson | like, wtf is the difference between /usr/ /usr/local/ /usr/share/ /home/ /etc/ /var/ etc |
| 10:06.47 | cblte | usr = unix software resources |
| 10:07.43 | cblte | home is the directory where all user home direcotries are located, 'etc' ist all configuration files, 'var' is for everything that does not belong somewhere else (most of the times you find log files here) |
| 10:08.09 | bazhang | man hier cluelessperson |
| 10:08.28 | cluelessperson | cblte, for example subsonic for media streaming likes to use /usr/share and /etc/subsonic.conf |
| 10:08.37 | cluelessperson | deluge likes to use a /home/user/ |
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| 10:08.56 | cblte | @cluelessperson read this https://www.debian.org/doc/packaging-manuals/fhs/fhs-2.3.txt |
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| 10:09.25 | cluelessperson | cblte, I will, thank you. |
| 10:09.35 | cblte | no problem cluelessperson |
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| 10:09.40 | cluelessperson | Also, can anyone suggest to me tools for generating debian preseeds? |
| 10:10.08 | cblte | @cluelessperson https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed << rtfm :-) |
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| 10:10.57 | cluelessperson | cblte, any ideas on generators? ;) |
| 10:11.30 | dutchfish | cluelessperson, most of that is covered in LPI1 or generics in the kernel docs, also read http://www.lpi.org/study-resources/lpic-1-101-exam-objectives/?cm_mc_uid=99249959457214342254504&cm_mc_sid_50200000=1443953435 |
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| 10:11.56 | cblte | nope. I think you have to read the manual and create your preseeds files on your own. I would suggest you use a text editor :) |
| 10:12.02 | dutchfish | cluelessperson, for the debian specifics the wiki provide the answers |
| 10:14.47 | cblte | ^^ |
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| 10:15.40 | bazhang | did he even read man hier yet |
| 10:15.52 | cblte | idk |
| 10:16.02 | bazhang | thats pretty informative |
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| 10:17.48 | cblte | what does the 'hier' stands for? the man does not tell |
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| 10:18.48 | cblte | oh ist abreviation of hierarchy - got it! couldn't see the tree because of the forrest |
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| 10:20.22 | ewew | Is there some hidden problems when installing newer version of debian on disk with older one ? Can older grub load new debian or it is not relevant ? |
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| 10:22.41 | babilen | ewew: It shouldn't make a difference. Why are you planning to keep the old one around? |
| 10:23.12 | kaleng | hey! is this the right place to note that "Release file for http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/InRelease is expired (invalid since 12min 5s)." |
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| 10:25.51 | ewew | babilen To secure it and test it. I want to be sure it will do not wacky things with graphic card. |
| 10:26.55 | ewew | kaleng Does your apt complain ? What version are you using ? |
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| 10:28.33 | kaleng | ewew: aptitude 0.6.11 compiled at Nov 8 2014 13:34:39 |
| 10:28.47 | ewew | I meant debian version. |
| 10:29.04 | kaleng | 8.2 |
| 10:29.42 | ewew | My debian 7 and vbox debian 8 does not complain. i am using http.us.debian.org |
| 10:30.03 | kaleng | for security releases? |
| 10:30.18 | kaleng | this is the official security repo, isn't it? |
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| 10:30.25 | ewew | stand-by |
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| 10:30.50 | kaleng | if you look at the file at http://security.debian.org/dists/stable/updates/InRelease the Valid-Until tag is clearly out of date... |
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| 10:34.47 | cluelessperson | why are devices mounted using UUID |
| 10:34.52 | cluelessperson | ? |
| 10:34.58 | ewew | I will recomend to wait for someone who knows more about this. Other way is to ask in #debian-security irc.oftc.net. |
| 10:35.02 | babilen | Because that is a stable identifier for the filesystem in question |
| 10:35.16 | babilen | cluelessperson: ^ |
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| 10:35.30 | kaleng | ewew thanks a lot |
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| 10:38.35 | cluelessperson | babilen, not traditional? |
| 10:39.03 | babilen | cluelessperson: No, I wouldn't call that "traditional" |
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| 10:39.23 | babilen | It is, however, in the tradition of "making sure things work", so in a sense, it is traditional still |
| 10:39.38 | cluelessperson | babilen, I mean the options are UUID and traditional |
| 10:39.48 | babilen | Which options? |
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| 10:43.29 | babilen | cluelessperson: In fact there are more options (in case "traditional" refers to device paths such as /dev/sda), you can also mount by label. Are you asked by something/someone to make a decision ? |
| 10:43.48 | babilen | (and is that why you ask about UUIDs?) |
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| 10:46.25 | cluelessperson | babilen, I'm wondering if it matters enough for me to worry about. I think defaulting to UUID is probably fine. |
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| 10:48.25 | babilen | cluelessperson: For what? Why are you feeling the need to make that decision? |
| 10:48.51 | cluelessperson | babilen, is it not the default? |
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| 10:49.06 | cluelessperson | babilen, and if I'm installing a system, is it not an option that I have to come across? |
| 10:49.10 | babilen | cluelessperson: Are you installing Debian right now? |
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| 10:51.31 | Guest13221 | anybody knows how to boot linux froim usb on hp 6720s laptop? |
| 10:51.49 | Guest13221 | it didn`t works |
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| 10:56.31 | nbags | anyone know how to fix an e1000 NiC from switching back to 100mbps speed for now apparent reason? if i unplug and replug the cable it goes back to 1000mbps which then lasts a day or 2 |
| 10:56.47 | babilen | Guest13221: You would typically choose USB in the boot device menu and thereby boot from your USB stick |
| 10:56.58 | babilen | nbags: firmware installed? |
| 10:57.18 | leonarth | nbags: are you sure there's no other device on the network which doesn't support 1000mbps? |
| 10:57.40 | nbags | babilen, not sure ... ? |
| 10:57.54 | nbags | leonarth, cant the switch take care of that? |
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| 10:58.43 | leonarth | nbags: depends on the switch, thing is, your card sends packets to a device that runs at 100mbps so it downgrades itself to 100 |
| 10:58.50 | ewew | nbags Is the cable for 1Gb network ? Maybe the nic after testing cable decides to switch to lower speed. |
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| 10:59.25 | leonarth | smart NICs do that only momentarily until the connection to that device is over and turns itself back to 1000 |
| 10:59.29 | nbags | ewew, its cat6, and short .. ? |
| 10:59.29 | babilen | nbags: Anything particular in the logs when that happens? It might clearly spell out the reason |
| 10:59.46 | leonarth | your card is either dumb or the connection to the 100mbps device is always active |
| 11:00.14 | leonarth | when you disconnect the cable the connection to the 100mbps device is dropped |
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| 11:00.37 | leonarth | so the NIC seems to be functioning properly restoring itself to 1000mbps |
| 11:00.43 | ewew | nbags Is that cable hand made ? |
| 11:01.08 | nbags | babilen, it just says e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Down. then e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps |
| 11:01.18 | nbags | ewew, tried a couple of cables ... |
| 11:01.56 | nbags | leonarth, maybe ill try to reproduce that. could be my printer i suppose. but then the AP which is always on is also 100mbps |
| 11:02.13 | leonarth | nbags: are you able to replace the Switch and check if that happens with a differnt one too? |
| 11:02.29 | nbags | i only have 1 gigabit switch unfortunately |
| 11:03.35 | nbags | so turning on the printer and pinging it doesnt make the thing drop back |
| 11:03.36 | leonarth | disconnect the printer and see if it restores to 1000mbps |
| 11:03.46 | nbags | i've never printed from this box either |
| 11:04.00 | nbags | leonarth, it just happens randomly after a couple of days. i cant reproduce it |
| 11:04.27 | leonarth | it's something on your network to which the machine connects to |
| 11:05.25 | nbags | there are 4 things on the network - 2xPCs with gigabit nics. 1xWifi which is on all the time which supplies connection to the rest of the LAN, and 1 printer which I only turn on when i want to use it |
| 11:05.37 | leonarth | disconnect it, reconnect, check link speed |
| 11:05.48 | nbags | nbags, the other PC never drops back to 100mbps |
| 11:05.56 | leonarth | start a nmap scan, while checking the link speed |
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| 11:06.03 | leonarth | at some point you'll hit the device that's causing this |
| 11:07.43 | nbags | leonarth, ok i will try that. there are only 2 devices that could be causing it though right - the AP and the Printer? and say i do figure it out ... what can i do? |
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| 11:08.43 | leonarth | 4options: upgrade the card, disconnect it, filter it out, change Switch |
| 11:09.38 | leonarth | probably the guys in ##networking may assist you further |
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| 11:11.05 | nbags | also, btw i'm seeing this crap in my dmesg after upgrading to jessie. any ideas?? i915 0000:00:02.0: BAR 6: [??? 0x00000000 flags 0x2] has bogus alignment |
| 11:11.06 | nbags | [76380.998448] lpc_ich 0000:00:1f.0: BAR 13: [io 0x1000-0x107f] has bogus alignment |
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| 11:12.05 | nbags | probably a kernel regression im guessing |
| 11:12.22 | nbags | or reporting something now that was always there |
| 11:14.09 | nbags | nmap is finished, its still on 1000mbps |
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| 11:15.29 | leonarth | how did you launch nmap? |
| 11:15.37 | nbags | nmap 192.168.1.0/24 |
| 11:15.44 | leonarth | lol |
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| 11:16.05 | leonarth | `nmap -sP 192.168.1.0/24` |
| 11:16.08 | leonarth | try again |
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| 11:16.45 | nbags | ok that was a lot quicker. but still no change |
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| 11:18.54 | leonarth | I don't know how to log the NIC changing link speed operation try ##networking |
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| 11:19.17 | nbags | is it normal for it to say 'e1000: eth0 NIC Link is Down' if its just changing speed to match some other device? |
| 11:19.24 | nbags | leonarth, ok. thanks |
| 11:19.34 | leonarth | you're very welcome nbags |
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| 11:31.55 | cluelessperson | question, should servers typically be set to static ips? or is it accessiable to map hostnames via DHCP/DNS ? |
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| 11:33.36 | nkuttler | cluelessperson: dns takes too long to propagate.. on your LAN, yeah, you could |
| 11:34.05 | ewew | Dont think it is safe. |
| 11:34.13 | teclo- | it's usually a good idea to have servers with static IPs |
| 11:34.33 | ewew | locked with arptables. |
| 11:34.48 | cluelessperson | ewew, arptables? |
| 11:34.54 | cluelessperson | isn't too familiar |
| 11:34.58 | teclo- | and if the DNS manager doesn't like you or your servers, you can ask him to put your servers in the DHCP lease... but with a "permanent lease" linked to thet IP address |
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| 11:35.31 | ewew | you can tie ip and mac together and prevent arp cache poison. |
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| 11:36.24 | ewew | http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=arptables&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+7.8+wheezy&format=html&locale=en for example |
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| 11:39.44 | ewew | When world transfer to IPv6 only this will be no longer valid. |
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| 12:26.33 | ghursa | good evening |
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| 12:27.11 | ghursa | install gentoo |
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| 12:38.46 | g00se | Weird |
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| 12:43.47 | JyZyXEL | % sudo ip tuntap del tapT :( |
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| 12:44.33 | JyZyXEL | i've tried many combinations but nothing seems to work |
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| 12:46.10 | JyZyXEL | ip link del tapT; worked |
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| 13:24.55 | Lionyx | Hello guys. If anyone could help me: I'm using Debian 8.2 with xfce4. When I drag a window close to the top, it fits automatically. I can't manage to do it dragging at left or right, I'm looking for something like super+left or super+right in Gnome. |
| 13:27.37 | jeddi | Lionyx: in my stock xfce4 (i run it for a vm only - so i'm accessing via vnc) if i drag a window (by the title bar) to theleft or right screen edge, it maximises vertically and adopts that half of the display. is that what you mean? (not overly helpful, but it should be the default - i haven't changed anything in my xfce config to obtain this feature) |
| 13:28.36 | Lionyx | jeddi, that's exactly it! |
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| 13:30.44 | jeddi | Lionyx: so when you drag a window to the left screen edge, say, nothing happens? |
| 13:30.55 | jeddi | are you pushing to the edge, or just approaching it? ( potentially silly question, sorry ) |
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| 13:32.49 | Lionyx | pushing! |
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| 13:33.56 | Lionyx | did not found how to do it with mouse dragging, but just found the binding keys :D |
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| 13:58.57 | RogerH_ | Hi. General question. I am trying to use the "ar" and "dpkg-source" commands in the terminal and the system says they are not valid. What packages do I need to install to get these utilities? |
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| 13:59.41 | lasdam | hey guys. I use uswsusp and have 2 problems with it, hoping for suggestions/feedback on what might be causing these. 1: about 10% of the time when I power on/resume after a hibernate something goes wrong and a new session is created instead, and 2: scripts in /etc/pm/sleep.d and /usr/lib/pm-utils/sleep.d doesn't seem to be executed at all (they have been chmod +x'd) |
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| 14:20.55 | oeuoeu | Hi, what's the best way to install IceCat on debian? |
| 14:21.09 | oeuoeu | is it good idea to use trisquel repos? |
| 14:21.57 | gryf | oeuoeu: compiling it by yourself, certainly |
| 14:22.08 | gryf | if not, it's at your own risk I guess |
| 14:22.45 | oeuoeu | ok, thanks |
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| 14:30.17 | oeuoeu | Btw, what are the possible risks when installing from trisquel repos? |
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| 14:32.08 | zykotick9 | oeuoeu: mixing debian's repo with trisquel/ubuntu is a BAD idea. see "/msg dpkg frankendebian" for confirmation. |
| 14:33.41 | zykotick9 | oeuoeu: i "wish" IceCat was in debian, but "supporting one mozilla browser is enough" seems to be the reason it is not... good luck. |
| 14:34.09 | oeuoeu | Ok, thanks, I am quite new to GNU/Linux, so I didn't know that. |
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| 14:43.33 | oeuoeu | Btw, if I compile icecat and later want to upgrade to newer version by compiling again, will it remember my settings/addons, etc? |
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| 14:45.36 | zykotick9 | oeuoeu: i'd suspect so, your settings/addons will be in ~/.foo and the install "shouldn't" touch that |
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| 14:46.52 | oeuoeu | ok, thanks |
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| 15:10.54 | TylerDurden01 | Does Debian's kernel come with special patches attached it? When compared to let's say Archlinux's kernel? |
| 15:11.06 | TylerDurden01 | *patched onto it |
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| 15:11.52 | phale | Is it possible to eidt a packet and retransmit it as a partially modified version of the aforementioned packet? |
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| 15:23.03 | er4z0r | such things can be done using tools like scapy |
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| 16:03.50 | harha_ | Ah, it's so confusing that cp doesn't overwrite files well.. I didn't know that and had to wonder why my python program's source code went all weird. D: |
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| 16:05.16 | JoelJo | I have installed ufw please check if it works blocking incoming connections https://paste.debian.net/314379/ |
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| 16:06.06 | soundtoxin | can someone tell me how to check the keybindings for ncmpcpp |
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| 16:07.48 | JoelJo | but I remember is possible to have some easier short results.. maybe is some other command? that just says income connection DENIED outgoing Allowed. |
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| 16:16.19 | Paul^^ | hello |
| 16:17.02 | Paul^^ | I have some problem with /dev/lp0 |
| 16:18.02 | mtn | !asl |
| 16:18.02 | dpkg | from memory, asl is #del# |
| 16:18.11 | mtn | !ask |
| 16:18.11 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:18.26 | Paul^^ | !asl |
| 16:18.26 | dpkg | methinks asl is #del# |
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| 16:19.10 | Paul^^ | I have a parallel printer , it go with wondows and ubuntu, but with debian the device /dev/lp0 don't exist |
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| 16:21.07 | ewew | Paul^^ Do you have installed needed sw ? |
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| 16:21.50 | Paul^^ | ewew what software ? the /dev/lp0 exist naturally |
| 16:22.07 | ewew | Something that can print. Like cups. |
| 16:22.18 | Paul^^ | I have the parallel port enabled with linked the printer now |
| 16:22.38 | Paul^^ | cups is a high level program to print |
| 16:23.09 | Paul^^ | often I print with cat file > /dev/lp0 from ubuntu |
| 16:24.06 | Paul^^ | cups make the fonts in graphical mode , my system don't see the parallel port |
| 16:24.12 | ewew | what version your using ? |
| 16:24.26 | ewew | of debian |
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| 16:25.48 | ewew | Do you know that cups also has cli commands ? |
| 16:26.13 | Paul^^ | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.9 (wheezy) |
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| 16:27.20 | ewew | Try this https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/lprng. I can not guarante results. |
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| 16:29.05 | Paul^^ | root@debian:~# ls /dev/lp* |
| 16:29.05 | Paul^^ | ls: impossibile accedere a /dev/lp*: File o directory non esistente |
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| 16:29.27 | Paul^^ | device don't exist |
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| 16:29.57 | Paul^^ | ewew I installed https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/lprng now , nothing |
| 16:30.38 | ewew | restart |
| 16:30.48 | Paul^^ | reboot ? |
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| 16:31.07 | ewew | yes. It is possible that the module for lp is not loaded. |
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| 16:31.47 | snowl_ | Hey guys, my wlan0 doesn't show up. I think I don't have the drivers for my network card (Centrino Advanced-N 6200 (rev 35)). |
| 16:32.05 | Paul^^ | ewew but /dev/lp0 is a device not a module |
| 16:32.22 | mtn | snowl_: maybe missing firmware. debian wiki wifi for info |
| 16:32.44 | ewew | i know. The device must have loaded kernel module to be present. Or it it disabled via bios. |
| 16:32.49 | snowl_ | mtn: I'll check that. |
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| 16:33.13 | fearnothing | if you want to automount a NAS share on boot, what's the best way to do it? |
| 16:33.20 | Paul^^ | ewew not the device is enabled via bios |
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| 16:33.59 | Paul^^ | ewew with dmesg ? |
| 16:34.09 | ewew | stand-by |
| 16:34.20 | Paul^^ | I tried dmesg | grep lp* but nothing |
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| 16:36.17 | ctmjr | fearnothing: /etc/fstab |
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| 16:37.10 | Paul^^ | solved , I created the mknod /dev/lp0 c 6 0 file , now go |
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| 16:37.57 | ewew | Paul^^ That will not be persistent. |
| 16:38.24 | Paul^^ | ewew, no, why no ? |
| 16:40.02 | Paul^^ | I try to reboot |
| 16:40.05 | ewew | try reboot |
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| 16:42.53 | ewew | If you can create a script that will load this kernel modules the it would be persistent. |
| 16:42.53 | ewew | Needed modules are lp,ppdev,parport_pc. |
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| 16:44.15 | ewew | I know LPT port is old but why theres no script that load its support ? |
| 16:45.29 | fearnothing | ctmjr - what if it requires credentials? |
| 16:46.06 | ewew | fearnothing What protocol are you using ? |
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| 16:48.53 | fearnothing | ewew - actually I've just checked again and I don't think authentication is on |
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| 16:49.19 | fearnothing | I presume you're asking about the authentication protocol? |
| 16:49.39 | ewew | no. The protocol used to access NAS storage. |
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| 16:50.54 | ewew | nfs,samba or other |
| 16:50.58 | fearnothing | I have CIFS and NFS to the same directory... I suspect that may be bad practice, but I kind of got distracted with other projects |
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| 16:52.09 | ewew | Do you plan to extend mouting based on user who logs in to system ? |
| 16:52.28 | fearnothing | this is all home lab stuff so it'll never be essential |
| 16:52.37 | fearnothing | but yes, eventually I want to get authentication with ldap |
| 16:53.15 | ewew | http://pam-mount.sourceforge.net/doc.php |
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| 16:54.58 | fearnothing | ok, I'll start reading :) thank you |
| 16:55.18 | ewew | Wait. I am not done. |
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| 16:56.31 | ewew | fearnothing You can use the fstab method, but there is a little disadvantage. It is possible when network is down it can delay boot. |
| 16:56.34 | Paul^^ | ewew now go , installed cups...stupid machine |
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| 16:56.46 | Paul^^ | but I don't use cups |
| 16:57.48 | Paul^^ | ewew, immediatly after installed cups /dev/lp0 have been actived |
| 16:58.01 | JyZyXEL | why does "/run/user/1000/pulse" randomly become owned by root.root? |
| 16:58.08 | ewew | Paul^^ I have been doing some search in scripts and i found that cups loads needed modules. This means that lprng should do the job, but i dont have it tested. |
| 16:58.14 | JyZyXEL | that prevents pulseaudio from working correctly |
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| 16:58.52 | ewew | JyZyXEL I recomend asking on pulseaudio irc channel. |
| 16:59.00 | Paul^^ | ewew now go , I have a old printer , a pins printer |
| 16:59.30 | Paul^^ | ewew I use it only to print txt , as programs, scripts, etc |
| 17:00.42 | Paul^^ | ewew ascii mode, and so it's medium fast |
| 17:00.47 | ewew | Paul^^ lprng is cli based printing. The missing lp0 is caused by not loaded kernel module. |
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| 17:01.03 | ewew | Paul^^ https://wiki.debian.org/Printing |
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| 17:02.36 | Paul^^ | ewew I know lpr & C , it's the classic printer unix system |
| 17:02.50 | Paul^^ | cups came from apple :_( |
| 17:02.55 | jhutchins_wk | !it |
| 17:02.55 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:03.40 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Most of the current printing capabilities are consolidated in the cups project. It did not start with Apple, it was a university supported project that Apple adopted. |
| 17:04.13 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: You need to enable the driver for the parallel port, it is no longer enabled by default. |
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| 17:05.29 | JoelJo | cosìriceverai così tanto aiuto che non mi rispondono da un ora |
| 17:05.36 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Which release are you on? |
| 17:05.42 | JoelJo | sorry* |
| 17:05.44 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk now it's enabled , but cups deleted the lpr packet ) lpq , etc... |
| 17:05.51 | Paul^^ | 7.9 |
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| 17:05.58 | teknoprep | hi all |
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| 17:06.16 | teknoprep | i have debian 7.2 with a turnkey distribution for postgresql... works great... |
| 17:06.28 | Paul^^ | Description:Debian GNU/Linux 7.9 (wheezy) |
| 17:06.31 | teknoprep | i was wondering what i should do to upgrade to postgresql 9.4... if anyone has any recomendations |
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| 17:07.13 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: cups should be able to load the driver, you may have to edit the config file. |
| 17:08.06 | JoelJo | I have to enter in etc/fstab changing something inside but there is now way, why? #cd /etc then: kwrite fstab but I just get errors |
| 17:08.06 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: That would be /etc/default/cups |
| 17:08.26 | Paul^^ | now go , probably is only the parallel module |
| 17:08.34 | jhutchins_wk | Guys, in english the term is "No Way" as in "there is no way for this to work". |
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| 17:08.40 | jhutchins_wk | Now is a point in time. |
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| 17:09.11 | medfly | apologies in advance for the strange question. I've had Debian 8 on a similar machine before and it seemed to work 'better' in terms of dealing with my graphics driver out of the box. now the drm driver seems to fail. was there a change to it recently? |
| 17:09.12 | volter | teknoprep: If it's not in a backports repo, switch to the postgresql.org distribution. |
| 17:09.16 | Paul^^ | # Cups configure options |
| 17:09.17 | Paul^^ | # LOAD_LP_MODULE: enable/disable to load "lp" parallel printer driver module |
| 17:09.17 | Paul^^ | LOAD_LP_MODULE=yes |
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| 17:09.36 | Paul^^ | vi /etc/default/cups |
| 17:09.36 | teknoprep | volter, thats what i am doing now.. thanks |
| 17:10.01 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Was that set last time you booted? |
| 17:10.13 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Did you change it or was it already there? |
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| 17:10.45 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk no was after cups installation, nothing re-boot |
| 17:11.31 | JoelJo | Helooo I have to change fstab in ect there is no way to change it why |
| 17:11.48 | JoelJo | etc* |
| 17:11.59 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk this printer have 3 pre-seted fonts , in raw mode it print with its fonts and it's very fast |
| 17:12.10 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Ok. |
| 17:12.16 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: What is the current status? |
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| 17:12.36 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: have you found a ppc file for that printer, or is it available in cups? |
| 17:12.39 | JoelJo | stupid debian |
| 17:12.58 | Paul^^ | jhutchins it's on and print , I print with cat > /dev/lp0 |
| 17:13.04 | jhutchins_wk | JoelJo: Just edit it as root. |
| 17:13.24 | JoelJo | i can't open it as root |
| 17:13.29 | JoelJo | cant edit |
| 17:13.32 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: What do you want to do? |
| 17:13.41 | JoelJo | why |
| 17:13.45 | jhutchins_wk | JoelJo: How are you trying to edit it? |
| 17:13.46 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk after format the text for the A4 sheet and 15cpi |
| 17:14.15 | Paul^^ | ./me jhutchins_wk nothing I print so , in graphical mode it's too slow |
| 17:14.30 | ctmjr | JoelJo: show us the command your using |
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| 17:14.54 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: That is to be expected. |
| 17:14.55 | JoelJo | :/etc# kwrite fstab |
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| 17:15.19 | jhutchins_wk | JoelJo: You shouldn't be using a GUI as root. |
| 17:15.23 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk I calculate the dimension of the sheet / 15 cpi ( i leave about 1,5cm for the border |
| 17:15.23 | JoelJo | this does not open it, If I try from dolphin it say I am no root! |
| 17:15.47 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk I print only programs or script |
| 17:15.51 | jhutchins_wk | JoelJo: I believe it shold be kdesu kwrite /etc/fstab |
| 17:16.14 | Paul^^ | javascript, bash shell script, C source, etc depend |
| 17:17.06 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk sometime perl source |
| 17:17.29 | Paul^^ | other time configuration file , etc... |
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| 17:17.52 | jhutchins_wk | JoelJo: It's probably worth your time to learn to use one of the command line editors. This won't be the last time you have to do this. |
| 17:18.07 | jhutchins_wk | JoelJo: In a console, do su - |
| 17:18.19 | JoelJo | i am root now |
| 17:18.33 | JoelJo | kcrash |
| 17:18.41 | JoelJo | that's what i still get |
| 17:18.46 | jhutchins_wk | JoelJo: Then enter the root password. Next, do edit /etc/fstab - I believe the default editor is nano, which is pretty easy to figure out. |
| 17:18.59 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk this printer have 10-12-15cpi , I use 12 ; format the ascii source with awk in a file and after as root : cat /dev/lp0 |
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| 17:19.22 | tworkin | best guide for getting debian onto a synology NAS? |
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| 17:23.10 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk in graphical mode this printer is too much slow... |
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| 17:27.36 | Paul^^ | cups is a demon that list on 631 port ... |
| 17:27.44 | Paul^^ | deamon |
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| 17:28.39 | habanany_ | Happy Sunday to everyone, can anyone explain me if the following command is supposed to be run exactly as in dabian tutorial "growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0=debian-x.y.z-arch-MEDIUM-NN.iso" |
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| 17:29.33 | ewew | habanany_o http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=growisofs&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=Debian+8+jessie&format=html&locale=en |
| 17:29.34 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Cups is many things. |
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| 17:29.53 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: You are making statements. Do you have a question? |
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| 17:30.42 | holms | How can I pass env variables to crontab file? I'm passing them from Dockerfile.. so it's available in tty |
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| 17:31.36 | habanany_ | ewew i copied from debian.org but im a newbe and im afraid of making a mistake |
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| 17:31.48 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk no I had set the printer throught 631 localost port, now I see |
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| 17:32.53 | jhutchins_wk | holms: man 5 crontab discusses how to set up the environment in a crontab. |
| 17:33.01 | holms | thanks :) |
| 17:33.09 | habanany_ | ewew i was wondring if x.y.z ... means something else |
| 17:33.25 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: I am very familiar with all of this. I have worked with hundreds of dot-matrix printers. Do you have a question? |
| 17:34.27 | holms | jhutchins_wk: basically SHELL=/bin/bash would prolly get default env vars right? |
| 17:35.25 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk I had set my printer with cups but is slow (_ obviously ) ìcause use the graphical mode as with windows , so I prefer use the printer intenal character set that is more more fast, so I use to send the ascii file directlly on the /dev/lp0 |
| 17:35.28 | holms | im actually not sure is docker putting them somewhere specifically |
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| 17:36.32 | jhutchins_wk | holms: No. |
| 17:36.56 | jhutchins_wk | holms: Read the man page. |
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| 17:37.43 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Do you have a support question? |
| 17:37.53 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk to clear the print queue of cups ? |
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| 17:39.18 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: lprm |
| 17:39.55 | Paul^^ | lprm & C were deleted from cups installation sorry |
| 17:40.10 | Paul^^ | they are incompatible togheder |
| 17:40.48 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: You can also use the GUI through your browser pointed to port 631 on localhost |
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| 17:40.53 | habanany_ | ewew i have dded before to usb and when dding to usb we especify the iso file name when running dd command, my question is , when running growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0=debian-x.y.z-arch-MEDIUM-NN.iso does x.y.z is just a representation for the media file ? |
| 17:41.01 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Cups supplies compatible versions. |
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| 17:41.39 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk yes I did before to the the printer, but it isn't the option to delete queue |
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| 17:41.46 | jhutchins_wk | habanany_: Yes. Replace with actual filename. |
| 17:42.08 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: No, you can delete jobs individualy. |
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| 17:42.49 | ewew | habanany_ Can you send a link ? |
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| 17:43.10 | Paul^^ | yes true now I seen |
| 17:44.28 | habanany_ | ewew im not too tech ... is it ok to send link straight ? |
| 17:44.31 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: lpq, lprm, and cancel will also manage the que for you, with an option to delete all jobs. |
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| 17:44.40 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: https://www-uxsup.csx.cam.ac.uk/pub/doc/suse/suse9.1/adminguide9.1/ch05s07.html |
| 17:44.57 | habanany_ | ewew im using weechat im i do not now how ot use it very well |
| 17:45.13 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: There may be slight differences between that document and Debian's cups - consult man pages for specifics. |
| 17:45.21 | ewew | habanany_ Are you trying to burn the iso to dvd or cd media ? |
| 17:45.53 | habanany_ | ewew thats correct , burning iso to dvd |
| 17:46.48 | habanany_ | ewew growisofs for DVD and BD optical media types: |
| 17:46.50 | habanany_ | growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/sr0=debian-x.y.z-arch-MEDIUM-NN.iso |
| 17:46.55 | Paul^^ | jhutchins_wk obviuos , and there are 2 packet 1 from BSD and another from gnu |
| 17:47.47 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Differences are minor, there is local documentation specific to the version you have. |
| 17:48.08 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: The whole point is to have a common printing system across different platforms. |
| 17:48.11 | habanany_ | ewew debian. org/CD/faq/#record-unix |
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| 17:49.11 | Paul^^ | cups-bsd is the packet with the cli utility, the others are incompatible with cups ( required to de-install cups ) |
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| 17:50.15 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: No, the standard cups installation also has CLI utilities. |
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| 17:51.00 | ewew | habanany_ It should be safe. It is written on official debian website. If not sure wait for someone who will tell you if it is safe. |
| 17:51.27 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: You are also wrong about them being incompatible, I have cups-bsd along with the rest of cups. |
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| 17:53.03 | Paul^^ | however all is ok |
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| 17:53.53 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: http://cups.org/documentation.php |
| 17:54.05 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: I'm sorry I don't know how to find translations. |
| 17:54.09 | medfly | hello. is it possible that the open driver for my (severely outdated) radeon graphics card has broken down? I don't recall having the same trouble even in the absence of the closed driver |
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| 17:55.26 | ewew | medfly To few information. What does say log files in /var/log ? |
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| 17:55.54 | jhutchins_wk | medfly: What specific card? |
| 17:56.05 | medfly | Oct 4 19:27:17 deb kernel: [ 10.131382] [drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled. |
| 17:56.08 | medfly | Oct 4 19:27:17 deb kernel: [ 10.169947] [drm:radeon_pci_probe] *ERROR* radeon kernel modesetting for R600 or later requires firmware-linux-nonfree. |
| 17:56.21 | medfly | it's ATI HD 5430 (evergreen/cedar) |
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| 17:57.35 | jhutchins_wk | medfly: Good grief. Do you not understand that message? |
| 17:57.49 | medfly | yes |
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| 17:58.23 | jhutchins_wk | ,v firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 17:58.25 | judd | Package: firmware-linux-nonfree on amd64 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.43~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; jessie-backports/non-free: 0.44~bpo8+1; sid/non-free: 0.44; stretch/non-free: 0.44 |
| 17:58.34 | medfly | okay okay... I'll get it |
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| 17:58.49 | Paul^^ | what is the opposite og tail ( to print X strings from the top) ? |
| 17:59.11 | jhutchins_wk | Paul^^: Head. |
| 17:59.18 | Paul^^ | thanks |
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| 18:00.07 | jaggzt | I hear a weird metallic sound from my computer.. like the hd head doing something it maybe shouldn't be doing |
| 18:00.20 | medfly | step A. backup |
| 18:00.22 | jaggzt | mdstat doesn't show any errors.. how do I test my drives? |
| 18:00.26 | medfly | :P |
| 18:00.29 | jaggzt | it's a raid mirror |
| 18:00.48 | habanany_ | ewew im sure is safe, me just was not clear which portion of the command was a representation and which the actual command , but i think i just figured it out , i just leaned that sr0 defines cd/dvd |
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| 18:00.56 | pofffs | I have an issue with unbound not properly making dns requests to my local dnscrypt-proxy servers https://paste.debian.net/plain/314394 |
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| 18:02.25 | ewew | jaggzt Dont fool around with testing. Backup your data if you want it. Then test all you want. |
| 18:02.54 | jhutchins_wk | jaggzt: I think I would boot wihtout the raid being assembled and test them that way, possibly with smartmontools. |
| 18:03.27 | jaggzt | medfly, ewew, actually I backed up a couple other computers to this one.. and as a raid mirror, hopefully just one drive is going bad (if any) |
| 18:04.00 | jhutchins_wk | jaggzt: Raid is not backup. |
| 18:04.03 | ewew | jaggzt Just to be safe. |
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| 18:04.26 | jaggzt | jhutchins_wk, yeah I know |
| 18:04.37 | jaggzt | so.. this data's already on other systems as it is.. should be okay |
| 18:05.01 | jaggzt | maybe it's the ssd making that noise |
| 18:05.06 | jaggzt | (kidding) |
| 18:05.17 | ewew | jaggzt How ? No moving parts. |
| 18:05.36 | jhutchins_wk | jaggzt: I would probably open the case and see which one was making the noise, maybe isolate them and power each on separatedly |
| 18:07.21 | jaggzt | jhutchins_wk, good idea.. (to identify which one) |
| 18:07.42 | jaggzt | I have one of those probe stethoscopes I can use for that too |
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| 18:08.08 | jhutchins_wk | jaggzt: Yeah, that's cool, but you'll probably be able to tell without it if you can hear it from outside the case. |
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| 18:08.50 | jaggzt | i knew i heard something the past week, but last night i opened the case and really hear it |
| 18:08.58 | medfly | well, it does work with the nonfree firmware |
| 18:08.59 | medfly | what's in that? |
| 18:09.47 | medfly | nvm, got it |
| 18:10.28 | jaggzt | jhutchins_wk, i can't seem to induce it with drive access either |
| 18:10.45 | jaggzt | could be a fan even.. afk.. examining |
| 18:11.46 | medfly | jhutchins_wk: well, it does work, and is informative, ty |
| 18:12.01 | jaggzt | jhutchins_wk, hah! it's the cdrom (or bluray or whatever) |
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| 18:12.07 | jaggzt | seeking every once in a while |
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| 18:13.31 | jaggzt | there's nothing in it though |
| 18:13.49 | jaggzt | maybe some daemon is periodically checking it or something? bleh |
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| 18:17.26 | jaggzt | messages log is filled with "org.kde.powerdevil.backlighthelper: QDBusConnection: system D-Bus connection created before QCoreApplication." |
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| 18:31.17 | jaggzt | ewew, yeah.. sdd noise was a joke.. hence the "(kidding)" remark :) |
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| 18:42.28 | Paul^^ | overall jhutchins_ for the help , good luck |
| 18:42.46 | Paul^^ | long life to gnu/linux and debian !!! |
| 18:43.11 | Paul^^ | the real serious and free software |
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| 19:40.33 | pofffs | if i am using unbound as a cache, and forwarding-addr: 127.0.0.1@54, should do-not-query-localhost be yes or no? |
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| 19:41.38 | teraflops | pofffs: "no" |
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| 19:41.52 | pofffs | teraflops, k, that is what I have |
| 19:42.41 | pofffs | teraflops, can you have a look at this log exert and config file? https://paste.debian.net/plain/314394 |
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| 19:42.52 | teraflops | pofffs: yes |
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| 19:43.51 | fearnothing | is the following the correct syntax for sending all logs to a remote? |
| 19:43.57 | teraflops | pofffs: are you trying dnscrypt validation? |
| 19:43.58 | fearnothing | *.* @@192.168.1.3:514 |
| 19:45.34 | teraflops | pofffs: seems like you half-configured the stuff, then |
| 19:45.38 | pofffs | teraflops, I'm re-directing to dnscrypt-proxy... I assume dnscrypt provides the validation, and I have no desire for unbound to do a secondary validation... i just want it to cache my queries |
| 19:46.15 | teraflops | pofffs: hmm, you need the dnsanchors and set it up in the unbound config file |
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| 19:46.41 | teraflops | pofffs: look at mine, be carefull since this is not debian and the path may be wrong |
| 19:47.05 | pofffs | teraflops, ok |
| 19:47.09 | teraflops | http://ix.io/imc |
| 19:47.58 | teraflops | pofffs: i have the same setup also in the bsd* boxes |
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| 19:50.43 | teraflops | pofffs: and the dnscrypt-proxy related stuff http://ix.io/h0U |
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| 19:56.35 | teraflops | pofffs: and then check, |
| 19:56.37 | teraflops | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.30 | pofffs | the source of issue could come from two places.... the root-hints (I do not use this) or the auto-trust-anchor-file... which I do use (though in my pastebin, it was commented out... it actually is not commented out) |
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| 19:58.45 | teraflops | pofffs: checke the route and permissions? look at the log files |
| 19:58.50 | teraflops | checked* |
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| 20:00.16 | Guest24264 | hi. i have a crypt-luks volume at sdc (the partition i need is sdc5). when using dd, is there a way to clone just sdc5 and not the entire encrypted volume ? because i have trouble booting my existing cloned image, because tools to mess with the partitions are different than extfs tools |
| 20:00.50 | edju | Running Wheezy. All of a sudden, apt-get update hangs at security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates, then again at http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports. That last hangs at "connecting to mirror,leaseweb.org". After a minute or two, the process continues. Any advice, pointers, etc appreciated. |
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| 20:01.51 | equex | or what tools should i use to make a grub install for clone cryptluks volume to boot |
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| 20:02.02 | equex | for a cloned* |
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| 20:08.03 | edju | msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
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| 20:09.10 | baegle | Would there be negative effects to updating alternatives for python to python3 while still leaving 2 installed? |
| 20:10.01 | pofffs | teraflops, https://paste.debian.net/plain/314406 |
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| 20:12.31 | teraflops | pofffs: the dnssec validation fails, what resolvers are you using? |
| 20:12.36 | teraflops | pofffs: https://github.com/jedisct1/dnscrypt-proxy/blob/master/dnscrypt-resolvers.csv |
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| 20:13.20 | teraflops | which* ^ |
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| 20:15.18 | pofffs | for this test: |
| 20:15.27 | pofffs | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:15.56 | pofffs | one second.. |
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| 20:21.18 | pofffs | maybe I need to update my .csv file |
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| 20:22.19 | marioxcc | Hello. |
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| 20:23.18 | marioxcc | How can I configure aptitude so that it lists packages without hierarchical categories? I find that to be useless and highly annoying. |
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| 20:41.34 | pofffs | teraflops, can I just disable dnssec validation? I'm trying to figure out why unbound is configured to do the dnssec validation, rather than dnscrypt.... .... where do I get the auto trust anchor file? I do have one at "/var/lib/unbound/root.key", but ???? I have no idea where I got it. |
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| 20:45.36 | teraflops | pofffs: with the latest dnscrypt from upstream, it does all the stuff |
| 20:46.11 | teraflops | pofffs: i just do not use under debian so ..., but you can disable, and just use it as dns cache |
| 20:46.14 | teraflops | sure |
| 20:46.41 | padawin | hi! how can I play a region-locked DVD in Debian? I'm trying VLC, but it's complaining that there is no CSS library available |
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| 20:47.11 | padawin | I have libdvdread4 installed, and Ubuntu instructions recommend libdvdcss (I think), that doesn't seem to be available in Debian repos |
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| 20:51.27 | teraflops | padawin: |
| 20:51.41 | teraflops | ,v unbound-anchor |
| 20:51.42 | judd | Package: unbound-anchor on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 1.4.17-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.4.17-3+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 1.4.17-3+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1.4.22-1~bpo70+1; stretch: 1.4.22-3; jessie: 1.4.22-3; sid: 1.4.22-3; experimental: 1.5.3-1 |
| 20:52.10 | teraflops | ups sorry I meant pofffs |
| 20:52.42 | mo1991reg | padawin - you need to get libdvdcss for debian from a third source as debian doesn't package it - you can get it on this site which is what debian recommends - http://www.videolan.org/developers/libdvdcss.html |
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| 20:55.01 | g00se | ,v libdvdcss2 |
| 20:55.02 | judd | Package: libdvdcss2 on amd64 -- wheezy-multimedia: 1.2.13-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 1.3.0-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1.3.0-dmo1 |
| 20:57.44 | teraflops | pofffs: just try dnscypt-proxy listenning in the port 53 udp, stop unbond and use 127.0.0.1 as nameserver in resolv.conf (?) |
| 20:57.53 | teraflops | no cache then |
| 20:59.10 | pofffs | teraflops, that's what i'm doing now, but sometimes my dnscrypt server dies. I like to have dnscrypt server redundancy, so that is why I use unbound - for the cache, and to forward to multiple instances of dnscrypt-proxy that I have running locally |
| 20:59.51 | teraflops | pofffs: I do that way |
| 21:00.02 | padawin | mo1991reg: thanks, I'm doing that |
| 21:00.19 | padawin | "wget -O - http://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/videolan-apt.asc | sudo apt-key add -" why??? why don't these guys use https? -.- |
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| 21:00.54 | padawin | while https is working and I'm using it, this should be discouraged, and yet there are instructions like this everywhere |
| 21:00.57 | padawin | (sorry for the rant) |
| 21:01.27 | zinx | padawin: because they are public files? |
| 21:02.07 | padawin | apt keys are used to authenticate packages |
| 21:02.07 | apt | ...but keys is already something else... |
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| 21:02.19 | zinx | padawin: as for adding the key, that's a terribly bad idea even with https :P |
| 21:02.54 | padawin | yup, I agree, but since I'll be adding the VLC repositories... |
| 21:03.22 | padawin | I'd rather add the key and apt-get install, than apt-get install and accept to not verify the packages |
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| 21:03.38 | zinx | i meant that method of adding a key specificly |
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| 21:04.07 | padawin | I also don't like it - it's as good as curl | sudo bash - |
| 21:04.23 | padawin | but is there a better alternative? |
| 21:04.40 | zinx | you could download it, verify it, then add it |
| 21:05.06 | padawin | and how do I verify it? |
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| 21:05.41 | zinx | web of trust? |
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| 21:06.24 | padawin | hm, fine... I admit I never thought about doing that on apt keys |
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| 21:06.59 | padawin | do you usually do that? |
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| 21:08.14 | padawin | at last!!! the DVD is working! thanks mo1991reg! |
| 21:08.17 | darsie | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gimp says " To open files remotely (like over HTTP), install the gvfs-backends package. " but with that it still fails. |
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| 21:09.01 | padawin | I downloaded a Kraftwerk album, then felt like buying the DVD to "do the right thing", and now I see it's illegal to play a DVD I own in my own computer running a free operating system |
| 21:09.34 | g00se | That's DRM for you |
| 21:09.52 | teraflops | padawin: :S |
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| 21:10.16 | padawin | yup; I know in theory it's a bad thing, but I rarely felt it myself |
| 21:10.40 | Siente | Hello guys, I am trying to install Gnome on Debian the way you told me to logging as root with su - then tasksel and then I am selecting gnome, but nothing is happening? |
| 21:10.44 | teraflops | padawin: is in you country the private copy allowed? |
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| 21:11.01 | g00se | Maybe if enough people sent them back saying they wouldn't play, they might get their acts together? |
| 21:11.21 | padawin | teraflops: I don't know - I live in Portugal. I do know we have a private copy tax, so I suppose it's legal, and I'm already paying for illegal content anyway |
| 21:11.33 | teraflops | heh |
| 21:12.01 | darsie | Does opening images remotely in gimp work for you in jessie? |
| 21:12.02 | teraflops | padawin: then rip it for your private usage :P |
| 21:12.07 | padawin | if I were an absolute law-abiding citizen, I'd still be paying as if I were a criminal - it's amazing! |
| 21:12.38 | g00se | Siente: aptitude install task-gnome-desktop |
| 21:12.45 | padawin | teraflops: I don't need to - I still have the copy I had before buying the DVD |
| 21:12.53 | padawin | I just thought I should watch it ... once! |
| 21:13.51 | Siente | I've tried tasksel install gnome-desktop --new-install |
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| 21:13.54 | padawin | or I can just youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM6B5j378T8 |
| 21:13.56 | Siente | tasksel: apt-get failed (100) |
| 21:14.26 | teraflops | padawin: here in spain everybody pay taxes when purchasing optical discs, because of the piracy, so in fact we all are pirates |
| 21:14.58 | g00se | Siente: i've just shown you what to use |
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| 21:15.09 | padawin | teraflops: yup, the same is applying here now. Not only optical discs, though - hard drives, pen drives and memory cards are included. |
| 21:15.25 | padawin | you pay a tax for the GB |
| 21:15.31 | teraflops | ;S |
| 21:15.52 | Siente | g00se: I was reading https://wiki.debian.org/Gnome#task |
| 21:16.10 | Posterdati | hi |
| 21:16.19 | padawin | oh well, we're getting offtopic - sorry. Thanks for your help, the DVD is finally working, and now I feel stupid for regionset'ting the drive before asking. |
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| 21:16.50 | Posterdati | I'm experiencing problem with iceweasel + flashplugin on jessie (amd64) - video freezes |
| 21:17.27 | padawin | Posterdati: flashplugin-nonfree? gnash? |
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| 21:17.34 | g00se | That looks unnecessarily fussy. There could be a good reason, but i don't know it ;) |
| 21:17.40 | Posterdati | flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:18.05 | padawin | my honest, though unhelpful, answer is "avoid it like the plague" |
| 21:18.25 | padawin | but what is your problem? the video is always frozen, or it randomly freezes? |
| 21:18.26 | g00se | Try sudo update-flashplugin-nonfree --install |
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| 21:19.10 | Siente | okay thank you very much guys have a nice night |
| 21:19.12 | Siente | see you |
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| 21:20.28 | wonko451 | Hi guys, got a question if anyone has a minute |
| 21:20.35 | dvs | nope :-) |
| 21:20.44 | teraflops | Posterdati: hw accel issue? |
| 21:20.52 | wonko451 | Ok, question is I have a raspberry pi running Volumio, debian under the hood, I know the modules I need to load, is there a way to load them and stay persistant across reboots other than recompiling the kernal? |
| 21:20.53 | padawin | wonko451: "don't ask to ask, just ask" :-) |
| 21:21.17 | wonko451 | hey no point in asking if no one is there to answer |
| 21:21.17 | Posterdati | teraflops: I did not activate it |
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| 21:21.54 | allizom | Posterdati: does the website in question work without flash? |
| 21:21.56 | padawin | wonko451: the answer is "yes", but I don't know exactly how - I actually thought the drivers were loaded on-demand, tbh |
| 21:22.09 | wonko451 | no clue here either |
| 21:22.10 | Posterdati | allizom: youtube |
| 21:22.13 | teraflops | Posterdati: well, if your system is weak maybe you need hw accel enabled, just guessing |
| 21:22.17 | wonko451 | here is what it boils down to |
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| 21:22.34 | padawin | as for "no point in asking": it's usually better to ask and wait - even if there's nobody available right away |
| 21:22.51 | wonko451 | company i bought a DAC from was being dicks about config instructions for their dac over I2S for raspberry |
| 21:22.58 | allizom | Posterdati: it should work. just disable flash from about:addons |
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| 21:24.11 | anonnumberanon | How to display ALL pages of man pages? My thing only displays half of the content. |
| 21:24.17 | wonko451 | they sent me an image and i loaded it enough to check their modules from /etc/modules, find the info for the chipset, reloaded newest version of volumio and now have to load those modules in it to get everything to work |
| 21:24.26 | Posterdati | allizom: ok |
| 21:24.49 | wonko451 | just was wondering if it could be persistant without a recompile |
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| 21:25.30 | padawin | wonko451: if you get no other answer, you can modprobe the drivers on boot |
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| 21:25.37 | padawin | but I know there's a better way |
| 21:25.48 | Posterdati | allizom: addons or plugins? |
| 21:25.55 | allizom | Plugins |
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| 21:26.18 | allizom | there should be a switch, select "never activate" |
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| 21:27.03 | Posterdati | allizom: done! |
| 21:27.09 | Posterdati | allizom: seems working |
| 21:27.10 | wonko451 | yeah, was trying to make it automagically load, gonna use this to run a battery powered BT speaker box with a 50w, 28 Ahs under half load and dedicated 5v rail for usb charging, and also run as a wifi access point with a GSM modem for on the go. |
| 21:27.21 | Posterdati | allizom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY67MbxdhCU |
| 21:27.46 | wonko451 | and a i2s dac for decent quality audio...hehehehe |
| 21:28.06 | allizom | Posterdati: you could also uninstall flash if you don't need it |
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| 21:28.14 | teraflops | allizom++ |
| 21:28.30 | allizom | it's such a nightmare privacy-security-freedom-wise |
| 21:29.13 | Posterdati | allizom: I'm testing on coursera.org, which was affected too |
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| 21:33.22 | Posterdati | allizom: same issue, on coursera the video blocks |
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| 21:34.02 | allizom | please right click on the video. does any flash-related option appear? |
| 21:35.18 | allizom | Posterdati: ^ |
| 21:35.26 | g00se | wonko451: A workaround would be to start the app with a script that loads the right modules first |
| 21:35.27 | Posterdati | no |
| 21:36.05 | allizom | maybe your connection is just slow? |
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| 21:36.21 | Posterdati | allizom: chromium performs well |
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| 21:38.16 | zinx | wonko451: i2s DAC directly on speakers with class D+A (aka H) amp? |
| 21:38.56 | allizom | Posterdati: let me understand well, the video is freezing, then starting again, and so on? or just skips frames? |
| 21:39.13 | Posterdati | no it freezes and I have to reload the page |
| 21:39.36 | wonko451 | zinx: class H in the basement, class D for the toolbox |
| 21:39.47 | wonko451 | and RCA output from the DAC |
| 21:39.57 | Posterdati | allizom: like it is stopped, no play button or others |
| 21:40.09 | zinx | impedance matched i hope |
| 21:40.29 | allizom | Posterdati: can you try watching a standalone video like this one (also from coursera) http://d396qusza40orc.cloudfront.net/cs101/recoded_videos%2Fcode-1%20%5Be677db8d%5D%20.mp4 ? |
| 21:41.10 | wonko451 | 8ohm load in basement, kicker component 6.5" with crossover and 3/4" tweets on 4ohm load at >50watts |
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| 21:41.46 | gentwo | exit |
| 21:42.09 | wonko451 | total about 200 in parts for everything and fuckton of man hours to build/wire it |
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| 21:42.31 | wonko451 | getting the rasp pi config done first, then moving to electrical and wiring |
| 21:43.03 | wonko451 | mount everything in the box, secure it down, and travel/party hardy |
| 21:43.04 | teraflops | youtube-dl is a good choice, also mpv has a yt-dl hook |
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| 21:43.27 | Posterdati | allizom: seems to play with no freezes |
| 21:43.52 | wonko451 | g00se: i thought about that, but just tested a theory and it worked |
| 21:44.03 | allizom | Posterdati: what if you watch the same video from https://class.coursera.org/cs101/lecture/11 ? |
| 21:44.04 | wonko451 | edited /etc/modules and rebooted |
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| 21:45.05 | wonko451 | then lsmod listed them as loaded but not actively being used, so now i think i gotta go back and config asoc for using the new modules |
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| 21:46.22 | Posterdati | allizom: video never starts, loading ... |
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| 21:47.54 | allizom | hmm, it should. do you have non-default configuration, or interfering addons? |
| 21:48.30 | Posterdati | allizom: abp -> disabled |
| 21:49.06 | Posterdati | allizom: Download Helper and Downloader professionale |
| 21:49.13 | Posterdati | allizom: it is started now |
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| 21:50.37 | allizom | ok, does it hang? |
| 21:50.45 | Posterdati | allizom: no |
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| 21:51.26 | innmalint | anyone running kvm-qemu with VGA passthrough? having an issue with pci-stub. they're supposed to be "claimed" at boot, though dmesg tells me no such thing is happening. |
| 21:51.37 | allizom | that's good :) Do you still have issues with the video you tried before? |
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| 21:52.43 | Posterdati | allizom: I removed the plugins and seems to work ok |
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| 21:54.08 | allizom | high five ;) |
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| 21:55.40 | Posterdati | allizom: no it freezes, same frame, but the sound go on |
| 21:55.43 | Posterdati | allizom: no it freezes, same frame, but the sound goes on |
| 21:56.27 | Posterdati | incredible |
| 21:56.46 | allizom | ouch. does it mean that it always freezes at the same point? |
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| 21:56.59 | Posterdati | allizom: yes |
| 21:57.32 | Posterdati | allizom: in this case the last video frame stays on and the audio keeps going |
| 21:57.46 | allizom | and this happens also with the video I linked you before? |
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| 21:58.20 | Posterdati | I didn't see it for the entire length |
| 21:59.19 | allizom | can you share this problematic video? don't know whether is login-protected though |
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| 22:00.12 | Posterdati | allizom: you need login |
| 22:00.34 | Posterdati | allizom: they told me that firefox won't work with their video material! |
| 22:01.09 | allizom | what? and they told you why? |
| 22:01.28 | allizom | worthless answer I think |
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| 22:01.53 | Posterdati | allizom: no, changing browser their solution |
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| 22:04.25 | allizom | Posterdati: which Iceweasel version are you on? |
| 22:04.57 | Posterdati | 38.3.0 |
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| 22:07.22 | allizom | you could try getting the release version instead of esr. no guarantees though |
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| 22:11.07 | Posterdati | allizom: I've got a better idea |
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| 22:16.12 | shawn1 | I keep chromium on my system for emergencies |
| 22:16.36 | shawn1 | but use Firefox (without flash) for most of my browsing |
| 22:16.53 | shawn1 | pepperflash in chromium for those times when you have to have it |
| 22:17.13 | darsie | https://packages.debian.org/jessie/gimp says " To open files remotely (like over HTTP), install the gvfs-backends package. " but with that it still fails. |
| 22:18.12 | shawn1 | darsie: what are you trying to get work? sorry I my scrollback buffer is not long enough |
| 22:18.47 | darsie | shawn1: Load an image with gimp from a URL. |
| 22:18.58 | darsie | "Open location ..." |
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| 22:27.51 | darsie | Does opening images remotely (File/Open location...) in gimp work for you in jessie? |
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| 22:29.44 | g00se | darsie: Workaround. function rgimp() { wget ${1} && gimp ${1##*/}; } |
| 22:30.10 | darsie | How do I use that? |
| 22:30.21 | darsie | ahh, shell. |
| 22:30.55 | g00se | rgimp https://www.debian.org/Pics/openlogo-50.png |
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| 22:31.28 | darsie | well, yeah, I can download the image first ... |
| 22:32.02 | g00se | That's all that would happen anyway. |
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| 22:33.59 | jesast | could do something with fuse |
| 22:34.10 | jesast | [but hardly seems worth the effort[ |
| 22:34.47 | darsie | me? |
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| 22:39.59 | squinty | darsie, fwiw, file/open location in gimp works with the following here http://i693.photobucket.com/albums/vv293/shalom_2010/Guitar-Artist-Photography.jpg |
| 22:40.36 | squinty | darsie, also worked when using gimp to test out a "nautty |
| 22:40.40 | squinty | ooops |
| 22:42.06 | squinty | a "naughty site" but thought I'd better not post that link here ;-) and yes i am using jessie |
| 22:42.21 | darsie | squarecircle: ok, so there's hope. thx. |
| 22:42.33 | darsie | I was just writing a bug report ... |
| 22:42.59 | darsie | you can pm me the naughty link ;) |
| 22:44.02 | darsie | I'm running jessie and reportbug tells me "Your version (2.8.14-1+b1) of gimp appears to be out of date. The following newer release(s) are available in the Debian archive: experimental: 2.8.14-1.1" I think that's weird. |
| 22:44.33 | g00se | ,v gimp |
| 22:44.34 | judd | Package: gimp on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 2.6.10-1+squeeze4; squeeze: 2.6.10-1+squeeze4; wheezy: 2.8.2-2+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 2.8.2-2+deb7u1; sid: 2.8.14-1+b1; stretch: 2.8.14-1+b1; jessie: 2.8.14-1+b1; experimental: 2.8.14-1.1 |
| 22:45.13 | darsie | I mean, saying stuff in the newly released jessie is out of date ... |
| 22:45.48 | darsie | But yeah, if it's fixed in experimental I guess nothing much will be done. |
| 22:46.13 | shawn1 | ,checkbackport gimp |
| 22:46.22 | judd | Backporting package gimp in sidâjessie/amd64: all build-dependencies satisfied using jessie, virtual. |
| 22:46.35 | shawn1 | !tell darsie about sib |
| 22:46.39 | shawn1 | er |
| 22:46.52 | shawn1 | !tell darsie about ssb |
| 22:46.58 | darsie | thx, but sid has the same version as jessie, it seems. |
| 22:47.35 | darsie | ohh, wait, backports ... |
| 22:47.52 | darsie | ,v doesn't mention backports. |
| 22:47.53 | judd | No package named 'doesn't' was found in amd64. |
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| 22:48.37 | darsie | ahh, damn, it's about compiling from experimental. |
| 22:48.44 | darsie | hides ;) |
| 22:49.57 | darsie | hmm, ssb=simple sid backport. |
| 22:50.02 | shawn1 | darsie use the backport method dpkg told you about on the experimental version |
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| 22:54.43 | shawn1 | it's easy I can step you though it. |
| 22:56.15 | darsie | if it says stuff like "Unable to satisfy the build-depends: Build-Depends: libgegl-dev ( 0.3.0)." shall I abort? |
| 22:56.28 | shawn1 | just a sec |
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| 22:57.41 | darsie | shawn1: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=tkyUSf3Z |
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| 22:58.15 | darsie | waits 9192631770 periods of the radiation corresponding to the transition between the two hyperfine levels of the ground state of the caesium 133 atom. |
| 22:58.51 | squinty | ....but did you get the teeshirt? ;-) |
| 22:58.56 | shawn1 | darsie: you simply have to backport that dev library first |
| 22:59.09 | darsie | ok |
| 22:59.56 | arahael | darsie: Isn't 9192631770 an approximation? You can't account for leap seconds. |
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| 23:09.38 | darsie | arahael: No, that's a second. It's not day/86400. |
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| 23:12.50 | caverdude | hi, I started a service in this case svnserve -d and even specified my host and port number, yet when I telnet to that port I get connect failed |
| 23:13.03 | caverdude | I was simply trying to identify that the server was indeed listening on that port |
| 23:13.42 | caverdude | any ideas as to how I can tell if the svnserve service is indeed listening on port 3690? |
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| 23:18.55 | volter | caverdude: ss or netstat -lntp |
| 23:19.02 | volter | caverdude: It's probably a firewall. |
| 23:19.13 | caverdude | hmm ok let me check |
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| 23:24.29 | caverdude | ok I did telnet to it I guess using the IP netstat give |
| 23:24.32 | caverdude | but can't use the domain |
| 23:25.13 | arahael | darsie: Some timekeepign implementations pad teh seconds out or have an extra-long second to implement leap seconds. |
| 23:25.26 | caverdude | no wait, it worked that time |
| 23:25.28 | caverdude | hmm |
| 23:25.43 | arahael | darsie: But I guess those aren't official seconds - more of an approximation. |
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| 23:26.25 | shawn1 | i'm a fan of dividing the leap second out throughout every unit thoughout the period of time it happens in |
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| 23:27.28 | caverdude | volter, I got somewhere, thanks |
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| 23:30.06 | volter | caverdude: No worries! |
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