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| 00:12.14 | Drugo | hello |
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| 00:13.44 | Drugo | i just installed mariadb-server and mariadb-client in debian jessie and i get en error during the configuration of mariadb-server-10.0 |
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| 00:14.38 | Drugo | systemctl status mysql.service says "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld....tory") ... Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!" |
| 00:15.16 | Drugo | the mysql.sock actually doesn't exist, but all configuration s are default, i didn't tuch anything |
| 00:15.29 | Drugo | Any advice? Thanks |
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| 00:18.33 | Drugo | it seems the same bug than https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=773631 ,but it should be fixed |
| 00:18.34 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/773631 in mariadb-server-10.0 (closed): «mariadb-server: Fails to install»; severity: important; opened: 2014-12-21; last modified: 2015-01-20. |
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| 00:32.04 | karlpinc | Drugo: Have you done an apt-get (or aptitude) update before install? |
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| 00:33.46 | Drugo | karlpinc, karlpinc yes, update and upgrade |
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| 00:36.49 | Luke-Jr | Uh, where can I download the latest Debian 7 netinst CD? |
| 00:37.16 | Luke-Jr | can't find it on the main site :/ |
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| 00:37.35 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: why not Jessie? |
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| 00:38.32 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: http://debian.ethz.ch/debian-cd/7.8.0/ |
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| 00:39.14 | Brigo | Drugo, that bug is for 10.0.15 and is closed. Now in jessie you can find 10.0.20 |
| 00:39.35 | Luke-Jr | abrotman: Jessie does not have OpenVZ support last I checked |
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| 00:39.56 | Drugo | Brigo, i know, but it seems the exact same bug |
| 00:40.04 | Brigo | Drugo, what's the output of systemctl --failed ? |
| 00:40.16 | Luke-Jr | abrotman: Debian 7.9 is out, isn't it? or it uses the 7.8 disc? |
| 00:40.18 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: has LXC |
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| 00:40.45 | Luke-Jr | abrotman: last I checked, LXC does not provide the same capabilities or security; and even if it does, I doubt I can migrate to it in the few hours I have :/ |
| 00:40.52 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: 7.9 CDs many not exist yet |
| 00:41.53 | Drugo | Brigo, https://paste.debian.net/314913/ |
| 00:41.59 | Luke-Jr | abrotman: if I have a 7.1 netinst already, will that work okay then? |
| 00:42.13 | Luke-Jr | (my internet sucks :<) |
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| 00:42.49 | Brigo | Drugo, i have never used mariadb. Does it install mysql service? |
| 00:43.25 | Brigo | Luke-Jr, you can intall 7.1 and upgrade then. |
| 00:43.41 | Brigo | install* |
| 00:43.42 | Drugo | Brigo, yes. There is still also mysql in the repository, and i get the same error, i just tried |
| 00:43.57 | abrotman | Luke-Jr: you'll have to upgrade to hte version you want, but sure |
| 00:44.19 | Brigo | Drugo, then the socket exists but it can't be used by the mariadb server? |
| 00:46.31 | Drugo | Brigo, the socket doesn't exist. It is in my.cnf (/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock) but it's not created when starting the service |
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| 00:48.47 | Brigo | Drugo, then ask systemd, i think it should be configured in the unit configuration file or alone, in a .socket file. |
| 00:49.16 | Brigo | Drugo, maybe you can find more information in logs. |
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| 01:20.15 | sorbolene | hey there, i'm just wondering what is the appropriate directory to place socket files other than /var/run as i don't want to run my web app as root |
| 01:21.08 | mhackbr | Hi guys |
| 01:21.12 | mhackbr | GN |
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| 01:21.49 | SirLagz | sorbolene: /tmp ? |
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| 01:22.05 | sorbolene | SirLagz, that's a good choice hmm |
| 01:23.31 | mhackbr | Folks, yours know a linux distro with high performance and use of the processor? |
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| 01:24.41 | mhackbr | I need up 12 servers in my laptop for start my application using microservices structure |
| 01:25.26 | mhackbr | My laptop not work well with this services up together |
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| 01:28.07 | SirLagz | mhackbr: why not use docker? |
| 01:29.09 | mhackbr | Docker? I not know |
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| 01:30.36 | mhackbr | I think change HD for SSD and up space reserved for linux swap |
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| 01:32.05 | mhackbr | A SSD with high transfer rate |
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| 01:33.29 | abrotman | mhackbr: how is this related to Debian? |
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| 01:35.26 | mhackbr | My distro is based in Debian, I think this problem |
| 01:35.41 | mhackbr | I dont ask this here? |
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| 01:40.07 | jordanm | !tell mhackbr about based on debian |
| 01:41.10 | jordanm | sorbolene: /var/run is still suitable, you can have systemd create the relevant /var/run/foo directory |
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| 01:42.12 | sorbolene | jordanm, yep i think that is best too. this will be put under foo.service or another service file? |
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| 01:43.59 | jordanm | sorbolene: typically a tempfiles.d file |
| 01:44.08 | jordanm | sorbolene: see /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/sshd.conf for an example |
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| 01:45.22 | sorbolene | oh nice! thanks jordanm . ill just run 'systemctl daemon-reload' when finished for this to be picked up on boot? |
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| 01:46.43 | bazhang | ,v iceweasel |
| 01:46.44 | judd | Package: iceweasel on amd64 -- squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 38.2.1esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 38.2.1esr-1~deb8u1; stretch: 38.2.1esr-1~deb8u1; wheezy-security: 38.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 38.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie-proposed-updates: 38.3.0esr-1~deb8u1; jessie-security: 38.3.0esr-1~deb8u1; sid: |
| 01:46.45 | judd | 38.3.0esr-1; jessie-backports/iceweasel-release: 41.0.1-1~bpo80+1; experimental: 41.0.1-1 |
| 01:46.49 | jordanm | sorbolene: ah, actually it looks like you can use RuntimeDirectory= in the unit file as well |
| 01:47.02 | jordanm | sorbolene: that's probably easier |
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| 01:48.34 | jordanm | sorbolene: for tmpfiles.d, you don't need daemon-reload, just systemd-tmpfiles --create |
| 01:48.47 | sorbolene | jordanm, RuntimeDirectory=/var/run/foo |
| 01:48.54 | sorbolene | that will be adequete? |
| 01:49.38 | jordanm | sorbolene: I haven't used that feature, but reading the docs I think you just want "foo" |
| 01:49.44 | jordanm | sorbolene: it appears /var/run is implied |
| 01:50.05 | sorbolene | oh wow, ill give it a shot i guess jordanm ! |
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| 01:52.32 | paperdigits | hello |
| 01:52.46 | paperdigits | is there a way to point mutt at an arbitrary maildir? |
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| 01:54.33 | sorbolene | jordanm, rebooting now. fingers crossed |
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| 01:55.34 | jordanm | sorbolene: you can test without rebooting with systemctl daemon-reload; systemctl start foo.service |
| 01:56.01 | jordanm | you will probably want to test a reboot as well, but after the service is starting manually |
| 01:57.15 | sorbolene | jordanm, probably should've done that first but it worked! |
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| 01:57.23 | jordanm | sorbolene: nice :) |
| 01:57.39 | jordanm | sorbolene: with /var/run/foo or just foo? |
| 01:57.39 | sorbolene | jordanm, permissions are wrong though!!! |
| 01:57.49 | sorbolene | it didn't use the permission for the group |
| 01:57.57 | sorbolene | it just did user:user |
| 01:58.36 | jordanm | sorbolene: pastebin your service file |
| 01:58.52 | jordanm | sorbolene: so it's just ownership that's wrong, not the actual perms? |
| 01:59.23 | sorbolene | jordanm, one moment |
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| 01:59.55 | jordanm | paperdigits: try "MAILDIR=/path/to/maildir mutt" |
| 02:00.00 | ctmjr | amazon |
| 02:00.07 | paperdigits | thanks jordanm |
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| 02:03.42 | jordanm | sorbolene: appears to be a bug since that's contrary to what the documentation says should happen. try the tmpfiles.d route |
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| 02:04.32 | jordanm | sorbolene: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=798391 |
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| 02:04.33 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/798391 in systemd (forwarded, fixed-upstream): «systemd: RuntimeDirectory= creates directory with wrong group»; severity: normal; opened: 2015-09-08; last modified: 2015-09-21. |
| 02:04.41 | sorbolene | jordanm, there she is! |
| 02:04.52 | sorbolene | jordanm, only raised last month |
| 02:05.39 | sorbolene | jordanm, brb to lunch. will try the other method when i return |
| 02:05.44 | jordanm | sorbolene: it was fixed in systemd master, but that sort of fix will never make it's way into stable |
| 02:05.57 | sorbolene | jordanm, is there a way to obtain it? |
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| 02:06.42 | jordanm | sorbolene: well, there is a way, but it's not going to be worth the trouble when there are work-arounds |
| 02:07.43 | jordanm | sorbolene: if tmpfiles.d doesn't work (it should) then the is always ExecStartPre |
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| 02:13.17 | DanyAlos | hi guys, I'mtrying to make an airgapped system and woul like to add some packages to the install image before I burn it to media. I'm a bet lost as to how one goes about adding packages with their dependencies to a dowenloaded jessie .iso |
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| 02:13.29 | DanyAlos | if you could point me int right direction would be very hjelpful |
| 02:13.34 | DanyAlos | just a link where to look |
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| 02:14.00 | DanyAlos | sorry for typos, n00bness doesn't come alone ;) |
| 02:14.59 | abrotman | dpkg: tell DanyAlos about custom netinst |
| 02:15.10 | DanyAlos | thx :) |
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| 02:40.08 | black_13 | why does ubuntu look better than debian |
| 02:40.28 | dvs | all flash, no character |
| 02:40.48 | black_13 | i could use soem flesh |
| 02:40.51 | black_13 | some |
| 02:41.14 | black_13 | i could use better font managementg |
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| 02:44.00 | zh1 | ubuntu sucks |
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| 02:45.04 | dvs | !start a distro war |
| 02:45.04 | dpkg | Ubuntu is an ancient African word meaning 'I can't configure Debian'. |
| 02:45.13 | dvs | !win |
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| 02:51.10 | black_13 | lets not start one. |
| 02:51.37 | black_13 | This is an old mac machine and i got debian toot sweet on it ... its great! |
| 02:51.47 | black_13 | ubuntu would not install on it |
| 02:52.08 | black_13 | 27 inches of sweet sweet linux-nish |
| 02:52.49 | black_13 | i just want eclipse to look a bit better |
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| 02:59.11 | cmonk | I like dosx2buntu10 |
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| 02:59.48 | ERROH | Hello. |
| 03:00.17 | ERROH | Which repository should be used for google-talkplugin in sid? |
| 03:01.21 | nmschulte | Does anyone use the calendar-google-provider w/ icedove/lightning? |
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| 03:03.38 | nmschulte | If you used the calendar-google-provider plugin w/ icedove or such, when you added your google calendar, did it ask you to enter your email address and sign-in in a window that had the google web login? |
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| 03:05.27 | cmonk | I think that's normal if I remember. I dont use it anymore but that rings a bell. |
| 03:07.31 | nmschulte | thanks cmonk; I found a reference in the documentation about the change. |
| 03:07.55 | cmonk | :-) |
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| 03:09.24 | nmschulte | Oh boy, time to watch it churn on all of my undismissed event reminder! |
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| 03:10.18 | sorbolene | jordanm, ok let's try tmpfiles.d ;) |
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| 03:13.46 | Lionyx | Just testing some irc clientes. |
| 03:13.50 | Lionyx | clients* |
| 03:13.57 | Lionyx | And wanna say. |
| 03:14.03 | Lionyx | Tks for Debian!!! :D |
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| 03:15.27 | sorbolene | jordanm, just trying to work out how to create foo under /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d usiong systemd-tmpfiles --create |
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| 03:40.22 | jordanm | sorbolene: try "d /var/run/foo 0775 user group" |
| 03:40.35 | sorbolene | jordanm, got it working :D |
| 03:40.47 | sorbolene | i have /var/run/foo owned by root:www-data |
| 03:40.49 | somiaj | d? |
| 03:40.53 | jordanm | sorbolene: actually, /etc/tmpfiles.d would be the right place |
| 03:40.53 | sorbolene | directory? |
| 03:41.20 | sorbolene | works a treat |
| 03:41.29 | somiaj | ahh a config file option, was thinking it was a command. |
| 03:41.35 | jordanm | somiaj: "Create a directory if it does not exist yet." |
| 03:41.37 | jordanm | yeah |
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| 03:42.36 | sorbolene | jordanm, just hope its ok to have my web app running as foo:www-data |
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| 03:42.59 | somiaj | sorbolene: should be fine. |
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| 03:43.11 | sorbolene | ie. in systemd conf it is foo:www-data and thus the sock that gets created is foo:www-data in /var/run/foo |
| 03:43.16 | sorbolene | somiaj, ah great :) |
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| 03:49.15 | nicko88 | any ideas why i can't make a service stop running at boot, ive tried a few things |
| 03:49.26 | quantic | nicko88: what service and what have you tried? |
| 03:49.31 | nicko88 | lightdm |
| 03:49.37 | nicko88 | systemctl disable lightdm |
| 03:49.45 | nicko88 | update-rc.d lightdm disable |
| 03:49.54 | nicko88 | update-rc.d -f lightdm remove |
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| 03:50.35 | nicko88 | according to sysv-rc-conf 0-6 and S are all not there for lightdm, yet it still starts up |
| 03:50.37 | somiaj | nicko88: well the command you use depends on what init system you are using, though to disable the display manager I would suggest using this |
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| 03:50.42 | somiaj | !nodm |
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| 03:50.43 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 03:50.53 | nicko88 | im using the default for jessie to systemd |
| 03:50.56 | nicko88 | so* |
| 03:50.57 | somiaj | nicko88: use the echo fasel > /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 03:52.02 | somiaj | nicko88: if using systemd then update-rc.d or looking at sys-rc-conf won't effect boot at all. YOu need to use systemd via systemctl. Unsure why systemctl didn't work, but it could be that the way systemd works is not run the lightdm.service but runs another service that runs the desired display manager |
| 03:52.40 | nicko88 | systemctl did remove the symlink from /etc/systemd/system i noticed |
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| 03:52.45 | nicko88 | but that did not seem to matter |
| 03:52.52 | nicko88 | nevertheless echo fasel > /etc/X11/default-display-manager worked |
| 03:53.04 | nicko88 | thanks |
| 03:53.08 | somiaj | yea it might be some other service reads /etc/X11/default-display-manager and then runs the appropriate service |
| 03:53.25 | nicko88 | yeah thats what i was figuring, somethign else was starting it yet somehow |
| 03:53.32 | somiaj | but I'm unsure exactly how systemd determines which display manager to run and what service does this. |
| 03:53.43 | nicko88 | heh |
| 03:53.49 | somiaj | I just know that file controls which display manager loads on boot in debian |
| 03:54.13 | nicko88 | seems like a decent solution to me |
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| 04:00.16 | k3xenn | Hi people i accidently used pvcreate on a partition with data i need on it, anyone know how to revert it? |
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| 04:01.38 | somiaj | k3xenn: I'm sure others nkow more than I about this. But the only things I can think of, is if you can create the exact partition table or partition that was on the disk before you might be able to see the old file system and mount it |
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| 04:02.17 | somiaj | k3xenn: the other way is to get a disk scanning tool that will scan the disk looking for known file types and recover them. But no way is for sure. |
| 04:02.59 | somiaj | I'm also unsure if pvcreate would have destroyed any of the actual file system data on the old partition. |
| 04:03.10 | k3xenn | I dont think it did |
| 04:03.16 | k3xenn | i think it just nuked the super block |
| 04:03.35 | k3xenn | i tried this: sudo dumpe2fs /dev/sdf1 | grep superblock |
| 04:03.47 | k3xenn | which gave me a list of superblocks on the partition |
| 04:03.51 | k3xenn | then i tried this: |
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| 04:04.40 | k3xenn | e2fsck -b 32768 /dev/sdf1 |
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| 04:04.53 | k3xenn | to try writing the superblock back as the first partition |
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| 04:05.04 | k3xenn | the problem is the OS still sees the drive as LVM |
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| 04:05.16 | k3xenn | if i use fidk to change the partition type will that kill the data> |
| 04:05.17 | k3xenn | ? |
| 04:05.46 | somiaj | no partition type is just a flag in the partition table. |
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| 04:06.29 | somiaj | Now if the headers of the filesystem were modified by pvcreate, you may have to do a full scan/disk recovery tool |
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| 04:09.15 | k3xenn | thanks somiaj |
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| 04:26.41 | madmattco | anyone ever seen anything the likes of this http://puu.sh/kCvSd/e0322fca8b.jpg ? |
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| 04:28.34 | jordanm | madmattco: looks like some kind of hardware issue |
| 04:28.44 | jordanm | madmattco: possibly related to the storage controller |
| 04:29.23 | somiaj | might want to check what kernel he is using. I would go hardware error to unless it is a buggy kernel. |
| 04:29.43 | madmattco | this is on an install image |
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| 04:30.20 | madmattco | sometimes it works. sometimes it doesnt. but when it does, whe whole system will freeze after a few minutes |
| 04:30.32 | jordanm | madmattco: do you have fakeraid setup in the bios? |
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| 04:30.47 | madmattco | yes |
| 04:30.56 | madmattco | get the same even if i disable it |
| 04:31.07 | madmattco | mines the dm and mapper lines |
| 04:32.57 | k3xenn | madmattco: have you tired updating you bios and storage card firmwares? the amount of wierd issues i have had fixed that way is crazy. |
| 04:33.01 | madmattco | dont know if it makes a difference but im on a lappy. 16gm ram, all which completes memchack, i7-5700hq processor |
| 04:33.09 | madmattco | bios is latest bios |
| 04:33.20 | k3xenn | :( |
| 04:33.31 | madmattco | wow my spelling is horrible today lol |
| 04:33.41 | jordanm | madmattco: I would test with a different installer eg testing |
| 04:33.50 | jordanm | madmattco: to see if the kernel version matters at all |
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| 04:39.27 | madmattco | ill give that a shot. thanks |
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| 04:43.12 | swift110-phone | Hey |
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| 04:52.33 | Luke-Jr | is it safe to assume Debian 7 will align partitions properly if I use Manual partitioning? |
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| 04:54.08 | paperdigits | Yes. |
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| 04:54.54 | mojtaba | Hi, I just restart my computer and now keepass2 does not run. Does anybody know what should I do? :( http://paste.ubuntu.com/12705370/ |
| 04:55.32 | Luke-Jr | nice |
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| 04:56.53 | paperdigits | mojtaba: are you using debian or ubuntu? |
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| 04:57.05 | mojtaba | paperdigits: ubuntu |
| 04:57.33 | markybob | mojtaba, ubuntu is not supported here. go to #ubuntu |
| 04:57.53 | paperdigits | mojtaba: that crash log is truncated, it is hard to tell what is going on. What does it say when you try to launch keypass2 from a terminal? |
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| 04:58.20 | mojtaba | markybob: I was there people said that I might find some help here! |
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| 04:58.39 | mojtaba | paperdigits: how can I get the log from the beginning? |
| 04:58.46 | markybob | !ubuntu |
| 04:58.46 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 04:58.55 | mojtaba | paperdigits: This is the whole thing I am getting. |
| 04:59.07 | mojtaba | !ok |
| 04:59.47 | mojtaba | paperdigits: It just through out some errors and then there is no keepass process. |
| 05:00.03 | swift110-phone | Lol |
| 05:00.29 | paperdigits | mojtaba: yes, those errors are important. |
| 05:00.59 | mojtaba | paperdigits: How can I log it from the beginning? This is the whole thing that I can scroll up to it. |
| 05:01.16 | Luke-Jr | lol |
| 05:01.25 | winterss | hi |
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| 05:02.00 | mojtaba | winterss: hi |
| 05:02.06 | winterss | hye |
| 05:02.10 | paperdigits | mojtaba: keypass2 > keypass_log.txt |
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| 05:03.03 | mojtaba | paperdigits: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12712182/ |
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| 05:03.58 | paperdigits | mojtaba: is your ram or hard disk full? |
| 05:04.16 | mojtaba | paperdigits: no |
| 05:04.36 | Luke-Jr | (is this *why* Ubuntu is not supported here? <.<) |
| 05:05.21 | mojtaba | Luke-Jr: You might learn something as well. (I think) |
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| 05:06.54 | winterss | hi null |
| 05:06.57 | winterss | how are you? |
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| 05:07.08 | NullOranje | I'm well. You? |
| 05:07.49 | venkat_330 | Guys need some help in fixing my 3m touch( 0596:0400 MicroTouch Systems, Inc) to work under jessie with LXDE |
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| 05:09.27 | paperdigits | mojtaba: looks like X is either having problems allocating memory due to a bad gfx driver config or a problem with mesa |
| 05:09.40 | gefdecue | when i update, should i also do udo apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 05:10.26 | mojtaba | paperdigits: Any idea how to fix it? |
| 05:10.39 | somiaj | gefdecue: you can read the man page on the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade. On stable they are usually the same thing, (But I guess there are rare instances you need to pull in a new dependency when an esr iceweasel upgrade happens) |
| 05:11.06 | somiaj | gefdecue: the difference is one will remove packages/add new packages. And upgrade will only upgrade packages that do no require installing new packages or removing old packages. |
| 05:11.07 | paperdigits | mojtaba: ask in #ubuntu, the fix heavily depends on what version of ubuntu you're running |
| 05:11.29 | Luke-Jr | note to self: just because you get to SSH into the installer doesn't mean it's okay to close the IPMI console :< |
| 05:12.18 | Luke-Jr | (virtual CD-ROM gets lost) |
| 05:12.56 | mojtaba | paperdigits: thank you very much for your time |
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| 05:14.29 | paperdigits | mojtaba: you're welcome. good luck. |
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| 05:16.44 | Luke-Jr | any way to get the installer to NOT use the netinst CD for ANY packages? |
| 05:17.34 | Luke-Jr | (since it's accessing it over my 0.5 Mbps IPMI connection) |
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| 05:18.18 | somiaj | Luke-Jr: what do you mean? You want to use the netinstall CD but not use the network to install anythign? What else do you want to install besdies a minimial system. |
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| 05:18.46 | Luke-Jr | somiaj: I want to *only* use the network for everything |
| 05:19.00 | Luke-Jr | somiaj: it seems to be pulling libc and some other minimal stuff off the CD |
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| 05:19.39 | Luke-Jr | CD bandwidth is much slower than Debian mirrors ;) |
| 05:19.49 | somiaj | Luke-Jr: the installers don't do that. But if you look around there are PXE installers and the netboot installer that will do everything over the network. |
| 05:20.02 | Luke-Jr | somiaj: this is with the netinst CD |
| 05:20.05 | Luke-Jr | oh, netboot |
| 05:20.15 | somiaj | I personally like the minimial system being on the CD, but I don't like haveing to worry about firmware issues with network cards when I install. |
| 05:20.24 | Luke-Jr | I don't have any network device(s) to boot it off |
| 05:20.56 | Luke-Jr | (it's in a datacentre) |
| 05:21.01 | somiaj | still look at the netboot image |
| 05:21.53 | somiaj | Luke-Jr: though you should just put the image on a usb3 device. that should be quick enough. (: |
| 05:22.20 | Luke-Jr | somiaj: I have no physical access. |
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| 05:25.10 | somiaj | Luke-Jr: ahh, anyways netboot whici is used with PXE boot I think can also be booted off an image on a cd. |
| 05:26.32 | Luke-Jr | ponders if what debootstrap will do if he beats it to downloading the debs |
| 05:26.42 | Luke-Jr | somiaj: too far into the install to restart |
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| 05:27.45 | somiaj | debootstrap is nice, I like it. As long as you are able to correctly make it bootable when you are done is the trick. |
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| 05:28.13 | Luke-Jr | somiaj: any idea what it will do if I download the deb before it? |
| 05:28.44 | somiaj | what do you mean by download the deb before it? |
| 05:29.31 | Luke-Jr | open a shell and start wget'ing the deb files into the dir it's putting them in |
| 05:29.43 | Luke-Jr | /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 05:31.22 | somiaj | The installer may not actually use apt directly when installing the base system and even if the files are there use the ones on the cd. |
| 05:31.42 | somiaj | though I would think once you get to tasksel and installing other software if you have the .debs in place at least they are already downlaoded. |
| 05:31.50 | Luke-Jr | it's currently copying them from the cd to there |
| 05:32.22 | Luke-Jr | oh well, here goes.. |
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| 05:32.37 | Luke-Jr | /target/var/cache/apt/archives # grep Filename /target/var/lib/apt/lists/debootstrap.invalid_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages | sed 's/^Filename: //' | while read f; do [ -e "$(basename "$f")" ] && continue; wget http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/"$f"; done |
| 05:32.48 | somiaj | yea I'm unsure if the installer would look in /var/cahcpe/apt/archives before installing the base system. |
| 05:33.24 | somiaj | But I install debian so rarely it doesn't matter much to me if it is slightly slow |
| 05:33.41 | Luke-Jr | sadly, my host gave me less than 24 hours to move to a new server |
| 05:33.54 | Luke-Jr | and I have 2 TB of data I haven't even started on yet |
| 05:34.40 | somiaj | Luke-Jr: sounds like a good time to make a backup whiel you are installing on the new host. (: |
| 05:34.57 | Luke-Jr | hehe, I have crappy internet :/ |
| 05:35.11 | Luke-Jr | but I've been lsyncd'ing it for the last month or so |
| 05:36.37 | Luke-Jr | it seems debootstrap accepted my download |
| 05:36.44 | Luke-Jr | it's unpacking now |
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| 05:42.39 | Luke-Jr | FWIW, if you do the CPU burnin option.. it never stops, even when it says it's done :/\ |
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| 05:44.11 | Luke-Jr | ponders if there's a simple way to report it as a bug, and if he did if anyone would care |
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| 05:52.06 | themill | Luke-Jr: the reportbug tool is the best way to report bugs and yes, people will care and do something about it if they can reproduce the problem and work out the cause. |
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| 05:55.42 | Luke-Jr | themill: reportbug understandably doesn't like running as root, and I have no multiuser Debian systems <.< |
| 05:56.08 | Luke-Jr | guess I can make one just for this |
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| 05:57.07 | somiaj | Luke-Jr: Or just use one of the users that already exist to send the bug. Bug sent from user www-data (: |
| 05:57.23 | Luke-Jr | haha |
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| 06:02.58 | priest_4711 | hi. I remastered debian via chroot. everything works fine exect I cannot do autostart via xinitrc / xsession file... desktop is xfce... both files in home folder are ignored. |
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| 06:04.06 | somiaj | priest_4711: how are you loading xfce? |
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| 06:08.42 | priest_4711 | with boot-option "startxfce4" |
| 06:08.59 | priest_4711 | boot-option in grub.cfg |
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| 06:11.52 | somiaj | priest_4711: So it is grub that is running xinit and then starting xfce4, it could be possible that this just doesn't parse .xsession |
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| 07:19.36 | thenewone | guys i deleted sudoers file how can i recover it |
| 07:19.37 | thenewone | :( |
| 07:20.42 | mnrmnaugh | reinstall sudo |
| 07:20.56 | thenewone | i did but the file sudoers dont show up |
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| 07:21.16 | thenewone | i remove and reinstall it but nothing |
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| 07:24.18 | swift110-phone | Yep |
| 07:24.35 | thenewone | how to fix it and thanks |
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| 07:35.09 | themill | dpkg: tell thenewone about confmiss |
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| 07:43.09 | sine` | what are the cli commands for finding out my adapter and ip of eth0 |
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| 07:43.18 | sine` | im sure it was ifconf or iwconf |
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| 07:44.33 | aswin | sine`: ip addr |
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| 07:45.19 | aswin | sine`: Or use ifconfig |
| 07:46.39 | aswin | sine`: Make sure that you have net-tools installed |
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| 07:47.56 | aleb | Hi, I see that for example for python3-gi there is python3-gi-dbg. Why is there no python3-cairo-dbg for python3-cairo? https://packages.debian.org/jessie/python3-cairo I'm trying to use python3.4dm and it fails to start the app because python3-cairo uses an .so file. |
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| 07:54.02 | muhuk | Hi! I'm currently using stretch. Did a dist-upgrade from jessie about a month ago. After the upgrade some packages were broken and I had to uninstall a lot of KDE stuff, pull (if I remember correctly) breeze from unstable then I was able to reinstall and get KDE to work. |
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| 07:55.12 | muhuk | Now whenever I try to upgrade anything KDE related it tells me to uninstall 129 packages etc. I go through the solutions and they all contain uninstalls. I was hoping things would go back to normal in time. |
| 07:55.36 | muhuk | Should I just wait? Or what should I do? |
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| 08:01.11 | MrPee | Hey there. Is there a porgram, which shows me, which keys I'm pressing? |
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| 08:01.46 | Shadow` | a virtual keyboard? |
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| 08:04.01 | MrPee | no, I want to know the code for specifc keys on my keyboard |
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| 08:05.00 | destrudo | like xkbevd? |
| 08:05.05 | frostschutz | xev |
| 08:05.28 | destrudo | yeah |
| 08:05.30 | destrudo | that's the one |
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| 08:05.58 | MrPee | thanks that's what I searched for :) |
| 08:07.02 | destrudo | xcupcakes won't run, and the default apt repos don't have a repo for xcupcakes |
| 08:07.04 | destrudo | wat do |
| 08:07.10 | destrudo | </ot> |
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| 08:23.18 | MadHatter42 | so puppet vs chef vs ansimble |
| 08:23.22 | MadHatter42 | what would you guys suggest ? |
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| 08:27.03 | samba35 | to use numa do i require 2 physical cpu (socket 0 and 1 ) ,can i use numa with 1 physical cpu |
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| 08:28.12 | WinEazy | if i have to install a package that's not avalible with kali and don't want to break the thing, would compiling from source accomplish that instead of adding source? |
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| 08:30.55 | nkuttler | !tell WinEazy about kali |
| 08:31.12 | nkuttler | MadHatter42: i like saltstack |
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| 08:36.02 | f0o | at0m: |
| 08:36.11 | f0o | -.- sorry guys tab is bad |
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| 08:38.46 | oo_miguel | Can someone help me look at the smartctl output for my two harddisks. I ran the extended offline tests and for me everything seems fine, but I would be glad to hear a second opinion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12712886/ |
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| 08:38.58 | Iridos | samba35, the "ma" in numa is for memory access... so as for memory pinning, what would be the point to do that? also for --cpubind... |
| 08:39.34 | WinEazy | say i install debian instead kali can i install all there wifi tools |
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| 08:39.35 | iseon- | Is there an easy solution for connecting to L2TP VPN servers on Debian Jessie? (preferably with GUI for selecting VPN servers) |
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| 08:40.31 | Iridos | samba35, I think --physcpubind does pinning cores... and I don't see why that shouldn't be possible... |
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| 08:40.50 | sine` | I am a bit rubbish at compiling as im used to apt-get but, If I have compiled a program already and I want to change the source, can i just ./configure; make again and it will overwrite ? |
| 08:41.16 | samba35 | but do i require 2 phyiscal cpu or numa also work with single phyiscal cpu ? |
| 08:41.36 | WinEazy | say i install debian instead kali can i install all there wifi tools? |
| 08:41.39 | Iridos | sine`, usually yes... make should see which files changed. do a make clean if you run into problems |
| 08:41.49 | Iridos | sine`, I think I answered that |
| 08:42.21 | sine` | ok ta |
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| 08:43.10 | WinEazy | general debian quiestion if something isn't in the sources and you don't want to add another source in case of breakage would compiling source be better? |
| 08:43.20 | oo_miguel | Can someone help me look at the smartctl output for my two harddisks. I ran the extended offline tests and for me everything seems fine, but I would be glad to hear a second opinion: http://paste.ubuntu.com/12712886/ |
| 08:45.43 | ewew | oo_miguel It is hard to tell. Every vendor interprets shown value by them selfs. Can not tell for sure if something wrong. Try asking on forums that resolve harddrive issues. |
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| 08:55.14 | JyZyXEL | are you even supposed to use the /etc/init.d/* directly anymore? |
| 08:55.45 | Ticho | yes |
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| 08:57.54 | JyZyXEL | Ticho: aren't you supposed to use like some systemd utility? |
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| 08:59.13 | JyZyXEL | why don't "/etc/cron.d/mdadm" and "/etc/cron.daily/mdadm" check /etc/default/mdadm? |
| 08:59.38 | JyZyXEL | they are being executed regardless of you settings |
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| 09:16.04 | DrGkill_ | Hello ! |
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| 09:17.20 | DrGkill_ | After few month under Debian Jessie on a bunch of servers, i have to say systemd is not cool at all ... |
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| 09:18.25 | DrGkill_ | I had no bias on it before using it but now I found it terrible |
| 09:18.42 | DrGkill_ | complex, opaque, and buggy |
| 09:19.11 | DrGkill_ | someone knows if there is a possibility of debian for changing its mind regarding systemd ? |
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| 09:23.48 | Stummi | DrGkill_, just remove systemd and install sysvinit |
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| 09:24.14 | Stummi | or whatever init system you want |
| 09:25.03 | Stummi | I don't think a change of the default init system is going to happen soon, but since you have the freedom of choice, I don't see a big deal there |
| 09:26.51 | Eightynine | Hi. I have just installed Debian 8.2 MATE and I have bad image quality. I'm using FullHD monitor but resolution is 1280x1024. How can I fix that? |
| 09:26.55 | DrGkill_ | Stummi: You guaranty this will not break the boot ? |
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| 09:29.04 | Stummi | DrGkill_, didn't tried it myself but I have friends who are still using debian without systemd without problem. I just asked one hows that going now a few days ago and he told me he the only systemd package his debian has installed is libsystemd0, which is acceptable |
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| 09:30.31 | Stummi | also, you only get guarantees when you pay someone for something |
| 09:32.02 | jelly | !jessie sysvinit |
| 09:32.03 | dpkg | To use an init system other than systemd in jessie, install the systemd-shim package (for logind) and remove the systemd-sysv package: aptitude install systemd-shim sysvinit-core systemd-sysv-. To stick with sysvinit for wheezy->jessie upgrades, follow the pinning advice in the release notes: http://deb.li/30Kby - See also <upstart> and <openrc> |
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| 09:35.35 | DrGkill_ | thanks jelly |
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| 09:40.19 | Eightynine | Please, help me. |
| 09:41.03 | Stummi | Eightynine, what does xrandr say? |
| 09:41.08 | Stummi | does it list better resolutions? |
| 09:41.16 | linuxd | is RS232 supported by jessie? |
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| 09:42.19 | Stummi | linuxd, yes. (Actually, serial devices are supported. If rs232 is supported depends on your uart chip) |
| 09:42.33 | themill | linuxd: you might want to ask a more specific question |
| 09:42.45 | Eightynine | xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default |
| 09:43.03 | Stummi | is this the only output? |
| 09:43.11 | Eightynine | No, 1280x1024 is maximum |
| 09:43.32 | linuxd | themill: is RS232 with full handshake supported by jessie? |
| 09:43.49 | Eightynine | http://pastebin.com/Lw0pT0hw |
| 09:43.58 | thenewone | guys i deleted the sudoers file |
| 09:44.16 | thenewone | i tryed to install sudo again but the file dont showup |
| 09:44.20 | thenewone | who to fix it and thanks |
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| 09:44.49 | DrGkill_ | http://www.laboiteverte.fr/cette-etagere-produit-lillusion-dun-volume/ |
| 09:44.53 | Stummi | Eightynine, not sure, sorry. Maybe you need to install the driver for your graphics hardware |
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| 09:45.05 | Stummi | linuxd, yes, it is |
| 09:45.23 | themill | thenewone: what dpkg told you two hours ago |
| 09:45.39 | linuxd | Stummi: i use the onboard UART gygabyte 970A -D3P |
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| 09:45.44 | DrGkill_ | oups sorry wrong chan ^^ |
| 09:45.44 | thenewone | i didnt know how to run that command i'm not tha expert |
| 09:46.01 | themill | thenewone: then ask |
| 09:46.08 | thenewone | what i'm doing now ? |
| 09:46.28 | themill | going right back to the start and ignoring the information you were already given |
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| 09:48.14 | Eightynine | How can I add non-free repositories? |
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| 09:49.12 | Stummi | linuxd, do you have an actual problem or why are you asking? You should be able to use this |
| 09:49.16 | linuxd | Stummi: ok,thanx a lot |
| 09:49.57 | allizom | Eightynine: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list as superuser to include non-free after main |
| 09:50.00 | Stummi | I already worked sucessfully with RS232 in all ways: no flow control, software flow control or hardware flow control, I also used RS422 with no or software flowcontrol already |
| 09:50.03 | Stummi | all without problems |
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| 09:51.28 | linuxd | Stummi: no.i'm just cheching before actually installing it,thanx a lot |
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| 09:51.44 | Eightynine | Just space and then write non-free in that file? |
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| 09:52.45 | allizom | Eightynine: yes, in the same line, see https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list_for_Debian_8_.22Jessie.22 |
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| 09:53.34 | Iridos | Eightynine, yes, but add "non-free contrib" (contrib is mainly free software that depends on non-free software) |
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| 09:54.21 | allizom | then you have to update your packages list |
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| 09:56.15 | Eightynine | Thank you. http://pastebin.com/RrSGGXSR like this? |
| 09:57.12 | allizom | yes |
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| 10:00.07 | patter | I'm running debian testing on a wired network, using wicd to connect. I have set DNS servers in wicd but once a day, these are overwritten by the DHCP server on this network. |
| 10:00.53 | patter | I don't have network-manager installed & don't have eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, does anyone know what might be interfering? |
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| 10:02.08 | armin | patter: my assumption is that the "resolvconf" package does that. |
| 10:02.36 | patter | I've not got that installed |
| 10:02.38 | armin | patter: but anyways, wicd should allow you to define if you accept specific settings from your dhcp server, that is, the proposed dns, too. |
| 10:03.01 | armin | patter: there are several good solutions to this, but the easiest for you (very likely) is just chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
| 10:03.34 | armin | patter: if you want to dig into the DNS topic more, you could have a look at the awesome "unbound" program. |
| 10:03.37 | patter | yeah, wicd lets me specify settings (which are used) but then something overwrites resolv.conf overnight :/ |
| 10:04.06 | armin | then disallow that something to overwrite it. and also identify the nightly intruder. |
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| 10:05.38 | patter | I'll pop chattr on for now, see if there's anything in the logs tomorrow |
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| 10:07.22 | armin | patter: to actually track down your problem a bit more, you could have a look when the file access times of that file change. a good solution for this is "incron", but i would really just use something like a for or while loop in bash. |
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| 10:08.20 | armin | patter: anyways, that's a very common problem and a lot of people come up with weird solutions to this. the best i've seen definitely is a local unbound. |
| 10:08.58 | armin | patter: well, depends on how much you care about DNS probably, but i do. |
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| 10:10.03 | armin | patter: in germany, ISPs even redirect you to advertisement sites when you just do an obvious typing error of a common site and try to resolve that. |
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| 10:11.00 | armin | patter: i guess it's quite obvious that implementations like this break the internet. |
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| 10:16.06 | Eightynine | My xorg.conf is empty. Maybe that's a cause of low resolution? |
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| 10:17.06 | armin | Eightynine: the description of your problem is weak. |
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| 10:17.58 | Eightynine | What information I should give? |
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| 10:18.30 | JohnA1 | dumb ?, how do I disable ctrl-alt-del under stretch |
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| 10:19.01 | otyugh | Eightynine: there is plently of ways to change resolution |
| 10:19.10 | otyugh | what environement do you use ? |
| 10:19.47 | Eightynine | I said already that MATE |
| 10:19.57 | allizom | Eightynine: now I scrolled back to see you had another problem initially, what did you enable non-free for? |
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| 10:22.07 | Eightynine | I saw on some sites that people solved that problem either enabling non-free or upgrading to testing. |
| 10:22.51 | allizom | just enabling non-free without actually installing any package is not going to have an effect on your system |
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| 10:24.11 | Eightynine | I have xf86-video-ati driver module. Maybe install fglrx? |
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| 10:24.44 | patter | armin: for me, its 1 PC at work & we've got a really slow/failing DNS server in the router, much more reliable to run bind locally & failover to google :) |
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| 10:25.35 | rozie | patter: echo "supersede domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;" > /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
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| 10:25.47 | rozie | where 127.0.0.1 is your desired DNS |
| 10:26.07 | thenewone | who can help with sudoers file that i deleted when i reinstall sudo i cant find it in /etc |
| 10:26.10 | thenewone | how fix this and thanks |
| 10:26.22 | otyugh | looked into skel ? |
| 10:26.34 | otyugh | /etc/skel |
| 10:26.42 | thenewone | ok thanks |
| 10:26.58 | thenewone | nothing only bash stuff |
| 10:26.58 | venkat_330 | guidinace in running chrome under ROOT login |
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| 10:27.40 | otyugh | thenewone: I would just use "locate sudoer" in that case |
| 10:27.58 | otyugh | after having done a uopdatedb as root |
| 10:28.02 | thenewone | otyugh, sorry i didnt understand |
| 10:28.07 | bazhang | venkat_330, never use it that way, why crosspost this in ubuntu and debian channels |
| 10:28.29 | otyugh | when you have no idea where something is, I browse everywhere. Not much files are named sudoer. |
| 10:28.58 | thenewone | otyugh, i did that but nothing show me sudoers |
| 10:29.00 | thenewone | i cant find it |
| 10:29.03 | venkat_330 | bazhang: we are trying to flavour application in both streams ... |
| 10:29.21 | themill | thenewone: seriously... |
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| 10:29.28 | thenewone | themill, yes |
| 10:29.30 | venkat_330 | bazhang: Trying to run the chrome in both ubuntu and debian... |
| 10:30.14 | otyugh | venkat_330: you should not be using chroume. Google's crooked addition, ew. |
| 10:30.16 | andril | is there a way to check crashes or freezing in Jessie? my laptop becomes unresponsive from time to time? |
| 10:30.24 | thenewone | apt-get purge sudo && apt-get install sudo fix it :) |
| 10:30.25 | thenewone | thanks |
| 10:30.34 | themill | which is what dpkg said 3 hours ago... |
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| 10:30.40 | thenewone | before i was using apt-get remove |
| 10:30.52 | themill | I know. |
| 10:30.56 | thenewone | thanks guys |
| 10:30.59 | otyugh | haha :p |
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| 10:33.02 | allizom | Eightynine: can you please pastebin: lspci | grep VGA |
| 10:33.19 | JyZyXEL | what do i do when auth.log is taking up almost 5 GiB of space? |
| 10:33.21 | lesta | in jessie I have done adduser newuser , now the newuser can navigate and copy some of olduser files. To avoid this what I have to do? change permission on the olduser home files? or I missing something? |
| 10:34.17 | Eightynine | http://pastebin.com/r1UacgUK |
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| 10:36.35 | MrPee | Is there any trick in the BIOS/UEFI setting I don't know about? |
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| 10:40.19 | sine` | what is the default firewall for debian |
| 10:40.43 | sine` | iptables ? |
| 10:41.15 | sine` | JyZyXEL: compression or deletion |
| 10:41.48 | vamps | sine`: netfilter |
| 10:41.51 | RoyK | sine`: IIRC iptables is the default, but ufw is available, an iptables wrapper |
| 10:42.03 | JyZyXEL | sine`: can i just rm /var/log/auth.log.1 |
| 10:42.05 | RoyK | well, of course, netfilter, but iptables is an interface to netfilter ;) |
| 10:42.22 | RoyK | JyZyXEL: if you don't need it, well, sure |
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| 10:42.40 | sine` | I want to know the standard for cli on debian or headless servers |
| 10:42.44 | allizom | Eightynine: going with the wiki because I can't test right now, run: dmesg | grep -E 'drm|radeon' | grep -iE 'firmware|microcode' |
| 10:43.06 | JyZyXEL | RoyK: it's probably just filled with the same line over and over again |
| 10:43.15 | allizom | this is the page I'm referring to https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo |
| 10:43.20 | JyZyXEL | which is pam_unix(cron:session): session closed for user root |
| 10:43.37 | sine` | you could uniq it ? |
| 10:43.39 | RoyK | sine`: there's no 'standard'. just use iptables if you want full control over the rules, or ufw if you want good firewall with a simpler interface (ufw handles iptables rules) |
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| 10:43.50 | sine` | RoyK: ahh ok |
| 10:43.52 | RoyK | JyZyXEL: just remove it if you don't need it |
| 10:43.54 | chthon | hi, I'm running a 8.2 debian server with dovecot. There's a weird result in netstat. |
| 10:44.01 | JyZyXEL | yeah |
| 10:44.03 | chthon | netstat -ntlp| grep 99 | column -t |
| 10:44.03 | chthon | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:993 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 1/init |
| 10:44.03 | chthon | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:995 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 676/dovecot |
| 10:44.03 | chthon | tcp6 0 0 :::993 :::* LISTEN 1/init |
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| 10:45.18 | chthon | Is it normal that imaps port is opened by init and pops is opened by dovecot? |
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| 10:46.30 | chthon | https://paste.debian.net/plain/314937 |
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| 10:47.10 | RoyK | chthon: which debian version is this? |
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| 10:50.57 | lubarch | difference between zram and zswap ? |
| 10:51.07 | sine` | sudo ps a does not list all procs... |
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| 10:51.22 | RoyK | sine`: add an x to that |
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| 10:52.30 | ewew | sine` try ps -Af |
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| 10:52.40 | sine` | aux is the one ta |
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| 10:52.58 | Eightynine | Thank you. Your link helped me. |
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| 10:54.09 | allizom | Eightynine: you probably just had to install firmware-linux-nonfree right? |
| 10:54.11 | chthon | RoyK, Jessie 8.2 |
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| 10:55.33 | chthon | both imaps and pops listeners are configured the same way |
| 10:55.41 | Eightynine | Yes, I think that's what helped me. I didn't knew I have to reboot my PC but when I read that article I did that and now I have appropriate resolution but font rendering is still bad. I think I should enable hinting. |
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| 10:57.10 | RoyK | chthon: I can't see a reason why init should listen to anything |
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| 10:57.42 | allizom | Eightynine: good. First issue is solved |
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| 10:57.59 | chthon | That's why think it's weird, but I guess it's related to systemd socket activation (?) |
| 10:58.40 | chthon | but in this case, shouldn't it be the same for pops too? |
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| 10:59.31 | Eightynine | I have another issue. Chromium works bad. It couldn't open site, I tried another one and browser started to lag. In all three tabs it shows the same site. |
| 10:59.37 | JoelJo | I use KDE as default desktop environment and I have installed gnome also but I never use it. Everytime I switch on Jessie I see the the gnome file manager opened in the center of the monitor... why? there is some bug? An error? |
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| 11:00.17 | ewew | JoelJo Did you shutdown the computer when it was open ? |
| 11:00.36 | JoelJo | I always shut it down |
| 11:00.42 | RoyK | chthon: no idea how systemd handles that - sorry |
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| 11:01.14 | chthon | RoyK, well, me neither |
| 11:01.40 | ewew | chthon Only way to check it is to install it in vbox and install the same services and watch. |
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| 11:02.45 | w1red1n | hey |
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| 11:02.57 | w1red1n | how do i turn off/on network manager on boot ? |
| 11:03.00 | JoelJo | I mean: I never use this gnome sile manager and when I close the pc I shut it down properly |
| 11:03.25 | chthon | ewew: I guess I need a clean setup, just to exclude security concerns |
| 11:04.40 | ewew | chthon If you tell what you have installed i could install it in my vbox. |
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| 11:07.26 | JohnA | does anybody "idle" a system? By idle i mean stop most (if not all) services, unmount or remount ro, leaving one tty runing |
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| 11:08.02 | chthon | ewew: debian 8 with all latest updates, +postfix +dovecot (+mysql +libsasl2 +postgrey) |
| 11:08.43 | chthon | although the ones in the parenthesis shouldn't affect this behaviour |
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| 11:09.28 | pra1go | how can I allow the non-root-user to mount any external ntfs partition? I added the user to group "disk" but had no effect |
| 11:09.32 | chthon | ewew: I'll need to be afk for a while |
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| 11:11.30 | w1red1n | how do i turn off/on network manager on boot ? |
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| 11:13.39 | otyugh | w1red1n: guess you can disable it trought systemd if it's not launched from the graphic environment |
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| 11:15.27 | ezra-s | w1red1n: I recall in /etc/init/ you had to place a file similar to the daemon you want to stop, somewhere in that file and the name a specific word is used to disable, such as disabled or similar, google will give you the answer real quick |
| 11:15.58 | otyugh | if he is using sysVinit |
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| 11:18.59 | apt | http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 11:19.19 | bazhang | is that arm apt |
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| 11:57.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
| 11:58.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there any other file server services out there besides CIFS and NFS? |
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| 11:58.12 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 11:58.33 | dr0 | Eryn_1983_FL: smb? |
| 11:58.42 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me what file i should edit so my usb or sdcard can mount writeable by user? |
| 11:58.51 | patter | Eryn_1983_FL: there's SSHFS & FTPFS (via fuse) |
| 11:58.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol samba is CIFS |
| 11:58.56 | Agiofws | /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,noexec,relatime,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro,user) |
| 11:59.05 | dr0 | Eryn_1983_FL: Ah sry |
| 11:59.13 | Agiofws | i'm on jessie |
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| 11:59.40 | Agiofws | and i don;t want to login in as root just to copy or write to the sdcard |
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| 11:59.57 | tespio | Hello folks. A quick question regarding the default of shmmax and shmall in Deb 8. I just installed it last night on 2 boxes both with same config and noticed that the values have been set to max seg size (kbytes) = 18014398509465599 respectively max total shared memory (kbytes) = 18014398442373116. I had to look at them as part of my postgresql tunning. Are these default values safe ? My older |
| 11:59.57 | tespio | deb 7 boxes are nowhere near these new values. |
| 12:00.09 | bezaban | Eryn_1983_fl: you also have block protocols, but that depends on what you are doing. You'd not want them for typical client -> file server operations though |
| 12:00.17 | patter | Agiofws: /etc/fstab |
| 12:00.21 | Agiofws | kk |
| 12:00.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | hmm ok |
| 12:00.41 | patter | Agiofws: though desktop (xfce/kde/gnome) should be able to auto usermount on insertion |
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| 12:01.22 | Agiofws | xfce should have a front end for fstab? |
| 12:01.51 | Agiofws | it is automaounting but not user 775 |
| 12:02.14 | Agiofws | /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 ? |
| 12:02.32 | patter | that's the same as my fstab |
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| 12:02.53 | patter | is your user in the disk group? |
| 12:03.22 | Agiofws | agiofws@P4:~$ groups |
| 12:03.22 | Agiofws | agiofws cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev scanner bluetooth |
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| 12:04.21 | betaboon | hello #debian, I am struggling with a problem: I am using live-build to create a livedisk. I added an init script to /etc/init.d/script and created a symlink in /etc/rc2.d/S01script. but no matter what i do, it doesnt get executed at start. (script: https://paste.debian.net/314942/). any pointers in the right direction ? |
| 12:04.36 | Agiofws | disk:x:6: ? |
| 12:04.41 | patter | looks right to me, do you have thunar & libthunar-vfs installed? |
| 12:04.45 | Eryn_1983_FL | fixed my problem |
| 12:04.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | wasn't mounted right |
| 12:05.15 | Agiofws | i do have thunar why? |
| 12:05.43 | patter | I think that vfs library handles the mounting |
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| 12:06.38 | Agiofws | ? |
| 12:07.15 | Agiofws | what should i do? |
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| 12:08.43 | Agiofws | http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot-10082015-030822pm.php |
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| 12:09.18 | Agiofws | does anyone know why jessie is mounting my sdcard as read only in user mode? |
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| 12:21.52 | Agiofws | does anyone know why jessie is mounting my sdcard as read only in user mode? |
| 12:22.20 | abrotman | the little notch is toggled? |
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| 12:23.05 | patter | what's 'ls -ld /media/usb0' ? |
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| 12:28.46 | JyZyXEL | how do you read the boot-up messages on Debian Wheezy? |
| 12:28.56 | JyZyXEL | they scroll by so fast i don't have time to read the errors |
| 12:29.31 | ewew | JyZyXEL dmesg or /var/log/kern.log |
| 12:29.40 | JyZyXEL | that doesn't have all the messages |
| 12:29.59 | JyZyXEL | some errors come from init.d scripts i think |
| 12:30.14 | ewew | JyZyXEL Then only with netconsole or serial console. |
| 12:30.27 | JyZyXEL | god damnit |
| 12:30.58 | ewew | JyZyXEL Maybe /var/log/debug, /var/log/messages. You need to check. |
| 12:31.09 | JyZyXEL | none of those contain the messages from startup |
| 12:31.34 | ewew | JyZyXEL Your using debian 8 ? |
| 12:31.41 | patter | could run each init script manually after boot? |
| 12:31.42 | JyZyXEL | i said wheezy |
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| 12:33.07 | ewew | JyZyXEL Really there is no info on this in dmesg ? |
| 12:33.07 | JyZyXEL | thats not the same anymore |
| 12:33.12 | JyZyXEL | no |
| 12:33.16 | tremon | JyZyXEL: early log messages should be captured by bootlogd if it's installed, and written to /var/log/boot iirc. I've had more problems with bootlogd than successes though |
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| 12:33.29 | JyZyXEL | bootlogd only logs a very small subset of messages |
| 12:33.29 | tremon | console messages are not captured |
| 12:33.31 | Agiofws | hi |
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| 12:34.14 | tremon | the kernel does listen to scroll-lock though, if you're able to press it at the right time |
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| 12:34.26 | Agiofws | can anyone tell me why is jessie auto mounting AS ROOT or not giving user perms to write to mounted devices ? |
| 12:34.28 | Agiofws | /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat (rw,nodev,noexec,noatime,nodiratime,sync,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro) |
| 12:34.31 | Agiofws | /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat (rw,nodev,noexec,noatime,nodiratime,sync,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro) |
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| 12:34.48 | Agiofws | what file do i edit to fix this thank you |
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| 12:35.46 | patter | JyZyXEL: there's a kernel compile option to send console to a printer |
| 12:35.53 | ewew | JyZyXEL Can you try installing bootlogd. |
| 12:36.23 | ewew | patter Where it sends this info ? |
| 12:36.28 | JyZyXEL | ewew: i already have it |
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| 12:37.07 | patter | ewew: any attached printer I think. only seen the option, never used it |
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| 12:37.59 | ewew | patter Ok. I was wondering if rsyslog could send logs with serial port.:) |
| 12:38.31 | JyZyXEL | i seriously need to set up another computer to capture the damn log output? |
| 12:39.00 | ewew | JyZyXEL Did you look in /var/log/boot ? |
| 12:39.51 | patter | ewew: some sysloggers can send across the network |
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| 12:40.36 | ewew | patter No. Not this type. I meant clasical serial port COM. |
| 12:40.43 | JyZyXEL | yes |
| 12:40.48 | JyZyXEL | only a subset of messages |
| 12:40.49 | patter | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:43.21 | JyZyXEL | im setting the damn netconsole in initramfs |
| 12:43.26 | JyZyXEL | hopefully it will capture stuff |
| 12:44.02 | hns | Agiofws: there are many options, which desktop enviroment? maybe udev could help |
| 12:44.07 | JyZyXEL | but its brain dead to print error messages that don't even get stored anywhere |
| 12:44.21 | JyZyXEL | what am i supposed to do with error messages that i cannot read |
| 12:45.35 | ohpleasework | I have apt 'recommends' and 'suggests' disabled, and I want to --reinstall some packages with suggests (apt only, no aptitude). I enabled 'suggests' but when I --reinstall it doesn't grab the suggests. Do I have to remove the packages first? |
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| 12:47.43 | Agiofws | hns xfce4 and gnome flashback ALL MOUNT with no user perms please this is killing me |
| 12:47.54 | Agiofws | for something so simple |
| 12:48.09 | Agiofws | its like i'm on linux 1.2 |
| 12:48.11 | Agiofws | :P |
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| 12:48.31 | hns | Agiofws: should it mount without user intraction? |
| 12:48.36 | zinx | i started on 2.0.x but i had a crappy computer that would crash without the IDLE support in 2.1.x |
| 12:48.53 | zinx | well, HLT on idle, whatever |
| 12:49.08 | Agiofws | well i insert the card into the carld slot if thats what user interaction means |
| 12:49.12 | zinx | i had to rate limit compiles :P |
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| 12:50.08 | Agiofws | i don't think this is due to a 4gb sd card |
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| 12:50.26 | hns | Agiofws: so assume you use thunar as filebrowser |
| 12:50.30 | ewew | Agiofws Debian version ? |
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| 12:51.07 | ewew | Agiofws Check /var/log/auth.log for any clue. |
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| 12:51.42 | Agiofws | jessie |
| 12:52.06 | Agiofws | [ 9970.459542] FAT-fs (sdb1): utf8 is not a recommended IO charset for FAT filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! |
| 12:52.15 | themill | Agiofws: other than stick the card in the slot, what do you do? |
| 12:52.20 | zinx | Agiofws: are you logged in as root? |
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| 12:53.05 | zinx | Agiofws: if not, i can only assume you installed some automounter |
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| 12:53.39 | anexit | is there a decent software out there for linux that can make blue prints for a home? |
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| 12:53.51 | Agiofws | ewew, http://codepad.org/Ge2iFgbr |
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| 12:54.01 | hns | Agiofws: under xfce thunar-volman should handle mounting |
| 12:54.07 | Agiofws | i'm logged in as user |
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| 12:54.27 | Agiofws | i stick tghe card in the slot and i right click on the icon for it to mount |
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| 12:54.41 | JyZyXEL | not even netconsole logs all messages |
| 12:54.43 | Agiofws | and it mounts with non user permissions |
| 12:54.45 | themill | Agiofws: is the card listed in /etc/fstab? |
| 12:55.01 | JyZyXEL | yet again only a small subset of messages is logged |
| 12:56.06 | Agiofws | themill, http://codepad.org/BztHhPmN |
| 12:56.31 | ewew | Agiofws udisks is installed ? |
| 12:57.00 | Agiofws | yes it is |
| 12:57.04 | themill | Agiofws: when did you comment it out? |
| 12:57.31 | JyZyXEL | seriously, how am i gonna read the damn messages from the boot? |
| 12:57.40 | JyZyXEL | do i need to record them with a video camera? |
| 12:57.44 | Agiofws | 5 mins ago |
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| 12:58.01 | Agiofws | but even non commented i still get the same results |
| 12:58.14 | themill | Agiofws: having the entry in fstab would cause the problem you see |
| 12:58.26 | Agiofws | should i comment it out? |
| 12:58.28 | Agiofws | then? |
| 12:58.34 | themill | it is, now. |
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| 12:59.08 | Agiofws | do i have to reboot or re login to my DE or something? |
| 12:59.24 | Agiofws | well either way it still mounts as root |
| 12:59.31 | Agiofws | or NON user perms |
| 12:59.42 | zinx | Agiofws: maybe re-login, but unless you unmount them they may stay mounted |
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| 13:00.24 | Agiofws | or relogin |
| 13:00.36 | Agiofws | but still i think it won;t works |
| 13:00.39 | Agiofws | work* |
| 13:00.41 | zinx | not or, and. |
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| 13:02.27 | Agiofws | ok thank you themill ewew zinx it worked :) |
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| 13:02.44 | Agiofws | sorry |
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| 13:02.53 | Agiofws | not working |
| 13:03.02 | Agiofws | can't write to folder :P |
| 13:03.16 | zinx | :( |
| 13:03.25 | Agiofws | agiofws@P4:/media/usb0/DCIM$ touch me |
| 13:03.25 | Agiofws | touch: cannot touch me: Permission denied |
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| 13:03.47 | Agiofws | /dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat (rw,nodev,noexec,noatime,nodiratime,sync,fmask=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-ro) |
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| 13:03.53 | zinx | Agiofws: can you pastebin the output of: ps auxww | grep volum |
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| 13:04.16 | Darkhunter | Hello guys, I have a problem. I am using debian server as main router and now there is so high upload, so our network is collapsing. Eth0 is connection from router, to provider and eth1 is local subnet. From local subnet to our router there is upload about 20Mbit/s, but from router to outside, it is 50Mbit/s, which is really bad. How can I find, which process makes this high upload? |
| 13:04.38 | hns | if unmounted, does /media/usb0 exist? and if yes, which permissions did this dir have? |
| 13:05.06 | Agiofws | zinx http://codepad.org/8OgkoTtk |
| 13:05.45 | Agiofws | mount |
| 13:05.49 | hns | Darkhunter: try iftop |
| 13:05.50 | Brigo | Darkhunter, jnettop could help |
| 13:05.53 | zinx | hns: unmounted permissions are overwritten by the filesystem permissions, in the case of vfat it's the user/group specified at mount time (or root, if none) |
| 13:06.09 | Agiofws | hns agiofws@P4:~$ ls -ld /media/usb0 |
| 13:06.09 | Agiofws | drwxrwxr-x 2 agiofws agiofws 4096 Mar 15 2015 /media/usb0 |
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| 13:06.21 | zinx | Agiofws: that is with it mounted? |
| 13:06.27 | Agiofws | UNmounted |
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| 13:06.33 | hns | and mounted? |
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| 13:06.53 | Agiofws | agiofws@P4:~$ ls -ld /media/usb0 |
| 13:06.53 | Agiofws | drwxr-xr-x 8 root root 65536 Jan 1 1970 /media/usb0 |
| 13:07.06 | Agiofws | some line in some script... |
| 13:07.08 | zinx | Agiofws: can you do another with: ps auxww | grep vol[^u] |
| 13:07.09 | hns | interesting |
| 13:07.16 | Darkhunter | hns:Brigo: I tried iftop and there is very low upload everywhere. |
| 13:07.23 | Agiofws | ps auxww | grep vol[^u] |
| 13:07.23 | Agiofws | agiofws 9456 0.0 0.1 4540 2004 pts/0 S+ 16:07 0:00 grep vol[^u |
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| 13:08.21 | Agiofws | ? |
| 13:08.31 | Brigo | Darkhunter, then the problem is in your router, maybe a botnet? |
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| 13:09.10 | zinx | Agiofws: hmm, well, is usb0 listed in /etc/fstab? if so you'll need to specify uid=agiofws,gid=agiofws |
| 13:09.27 | zinx | Agiofws: but you should be able to leave it out of fstab w/ a volume manager |
| 13:09.34 | Agiofws | #/dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 auto rw,user,noauto 0 0 zinx |
| 13:10.36 | zinx | Agiofws: got me, figure out which volume manager you're using i guess |
| 13:10.48 | Agiofws | how? |
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| 13:10.53 | zinx | Agiofws: the gvfs stuff is virtual filesystems, not mounted, afaik |
| 13:11.01 | zinx | Agiofws: check processes, find out which one is a volume manager >_< |
| 13:11.13 | Agiofws | top ? |
| 13:11.14 | hns | i guessed thunar-volmen, because of xfce |
| 13:11.40 | zinx | hns: not running, though |
| 13:11.52 | zinx | Agiofws: ''ps auxww | less'' will give a full list |
| 13:12.07 | zinx | Agiofws: pstree may be sufficient and better organized though |
| 13:12.45 | hns | maybe a crasy udev rule is messing this up? |
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| 13:13.57 | Agiofws | http://codepad.org/oZcX7t5J zinx |
| 13:14.02 | zinx | hns: his ps output does not include thunar-volman, dunno if it would though |
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| 13:14.31 | hns | yeah, got it |
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| 13:14.41 | abrotman | waits for RDash to ask ... |
| 13:14.58 | Agiofws | udisksdââ¬â{cleanup} ? zinx ? |
| 13:15.27 | RDash | seen abrotman smoking weed near a redlight district |
| 13:15.59 | zinx | Agiofws: udisks can mount stuff, but i think it needs something else to actually ask it to |
| 13:16.14 | zinx | Agiofws: i dunno how gnome's set up to work w/o a volume manager these days tbqh |
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| 13:17.04 | Darkhunter | Brigo: It was one our server, which somebody injected... :/ |
| 13:17.05 | Agiofws | The pmount command is the basis of gnome-volume-manager and is hard coded in the gnome-volume-manager: |
| 13:17.06 | Agiofws | ? |
| 13:17.11 | zinx | could be something installed to systemd too, i dunno |
| 13:17.59 | abrotman | RDash: eh, nope. not me |
| 13:18.32 | Agiofws | http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Using_Gnome_Volume_Manager.html |
| 13:18.34 | zinx | Agiofws: you're not using gnome-volume-manager though :P |
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| 13:19.22 | zinx | Agiofws: maybe try installing a volume manager and see if it complains about one being already running |
| 13:19.38 | Agiofws | ok |
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| 13:19.46 | Agiofws | i installed pmount |
| 13:19.51 | hns | but gvfsd is running |
| 13:19.59 | zinx | Agiofws: i don't know what's auto-mounting your stuff, udevadm may be able to tell you but i've not the time to walk you through using it at the moment, have to leave and have my airbags replaced so they don't kill anyone :) |
| 13:20.01 | Agiofws | and got file creation perms |
| 13:20.08 | Agiofws | thank you to ALL |
| 13:20.12 | zinx | hns: gvfsd is gnome virtual filesystems |
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| 13:21.48 | hns | yeah, but didn't ist spwan fuse and handles mounting? |
| 13:22.23 | zinx | hns: not generally |
| 13:22.58 | zinx | hns: generally, only apps using gvfs can use them - they are virtual, accessed via userspace (mtp for example uses an mtp library that accesses the usb device directly) |
| 13:23.41 | hns | okay, and scp if you use nautilus or so |
| 13:24.04 | hns | gnomes volume managemnt is getting stranger and stranger |
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| 13:26.58 | abrotman | why does it need a gui at all? |
| 13:27.02 | abrotman | why not just use SSH? |
| 13:27.03 | jordanm | WinterSummer: what app do you need a GUI for? perhaps x11 forwarding would be better |
| 13:27.18 | WinterSummer | jordanm: I need to run Firefox |
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| 13:27.55 | jordanm | WinterSummer: for selenium? |
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| 13:28.29 | WinterSummer | jordanm: I need to play a YouTube clip through Firefox |
| 13:29.03 | abrotman | wonders why one wouldn't just do this from Windows ? |
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| 13:29.47 | markybob | i'm lost |
| 13:29.48 | WinterSummer | Because Linux VPS are cheaper |
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| 13:32.39 | abrotman | WinterSummer: what's wrong with your browser on windows? I think there's some confusion here |
| 13:33.16 | WinterSummer | abrotman: I want to run this 24/7 and I don't want my PC to be on 24/7 |
| 13:33.40 | abrotman | thinks this is a really long video ... |
| 13:33.44 | markybob | that didn't help the confusion |
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| 13:34.33 | abrotman | WinterSummer: you'd install xorg, and a lightweight WM. But 128MB and FF aren't going to play well |
| 13:34.51 | abrotman | 5lb sausage in a 3lb casing .. |
| 13:34.52 | markybob | it's the rdp thing i don't get |
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| 13:35.17 | abrotman | WinterSummer: And then you'd use VNC probably, not RDP .. but there is xdrp as an RDP server in Linux |
| 13:35.19 | markybob | so you're connecting from windows 24/7 via rdp...but...you don't want it up 24/7 |
| 13:35.27 | jordanm | oh, i misread that as "128GB" or RAM |
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| 13:35.47 | abrotman | markybob: he wants the browser running on a VPS 24/7, and presumably to connect to it sporadically .. |
| 13:36.02 | abrotman | I think |
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| 13:36.09 | markybob | i can't understand why, but okay |
| 13:36.23 | WinterSummer | It's okay if Firefox lags as hell, as long as its running and not freezes |
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| 13:36.35 | jordanm | even an ec2 micro instance has 1GB of RAM |
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| 13:37.14 | abrotman | actualy, I'd probably just run FF in kiosk mode, skip the WM (if possible |
| 13:37.24 | abrotman | I'm not helping .. am I? |
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| 13:38.31 | Guest5375 | hello, what mount images iso file dvd, i give "mount -t iso9660 -o loop /media/Disk1/debian-8.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso /media/dvd1-mountpoint" but not mount dvd, on desktop icons is hard disk, and can't used in synaptic but give "-t iso9660"??? |
| 13:38.31 | WinterSummer | I dont understand what youre talking about |
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| 13:39.24 | lucido | hi I'd like to set up a a git server for our office using the feature branch workflow on my debian 7 server. Is there a good tutorial how to do this ? |
| 13:40.00 | Guest5375 | but if give unt -o loop /media/Disk1/debian-8.2.0-i386-DVD-1.iso /media/cdrom0" mount dvd, but cdrom0 is real driver |
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| 13:40.26 | Guest5375 | mount* |
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| 13:41.39 | g00se | Any of you had to set the image timestamp in the exif info of a jpeg? All the examples in utilities seem to be offsetting, which is not what i need |
| 13:42.40 | p8m | lucido: You should just have to install git-core and gitweb. Read the documentation on how to set those up. |
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| 14:05.04 | Elrond | Is it normal, that the lxc(7) suggested "ro,bind" method actually creates rw binds on 3.18.22? |
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| 14:05.41 | linuxd | http://upaste.me/d50621610a56ddfe5 ,how to fix this? |
| 14:05.53 | tremon | Elrond: yes. The kernel version doesn't matter actually, a bind mount dpesm |
| 14:05.56 | tremon | argh |
| 14:06.13 | tremon | Elrond: yes. The kernel version doesn't matter actually, a bind mount doesn't have properties of its own. If the original mount was rw, the bind mount is too |
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| 14:07.42 | Elrond | tremon - So the manpage gives (IMHO) a false sense of security... |
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| 14:08.55 | Elrond | tremon - Hmmm, http://lwn.net/Articles/281157/ suggests, that bind mounts can be readonly? |
| 14:09.32 | tremon | hmm maybe my information is outdated |
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| 14:10.59 | Elrond | tremon - Well, your information isn't too outdaed, as the problem still persists. |
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| 14:12.24 | tremon | Elrond: the mount man page says that the sequence mount --bind $old $new ; mount -o remount,ro $new should work? have you tried that? |
| 14:13.16 | Elrond | tremon - Not yet. Also I am not fully sure how to integrate that in my lxc setup. |
| 14:13.54 | tremon | ah, can't help you there I'm afraid. Also can't find a definitive answer as to whether ro bind mounts are fully supported yet |
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| 14:14.10 | tremon | I know it was a hot topic, but didn't stick around to follow its resolution |
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| 14:14.43 | Elrond | tremon - Is it fair to file a bug on lxc about this? |
| 14:15.36 | Elrond | (okay, trying the remount,ro _inside_ the container does not work.) |
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| 14:15.59 | tremon | if you think their manpage is incorrect, then I think you should. But maybe ask on an lxc channel (#lxc?) first |
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| 14:17.08 | Elrond | tremon - Well, the manpage isn't directly incorrect. It just has an example fstab with "ro,bind". And naive people will think "Hey, yeah, can do that and the container wont be able to break my host!". |
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| 14:17.37 | tremon | that would be a logical conclusion yes :) |
| 14:18.37 | tremon | btw I've also found a post (on a 2.6.18 kernel though) that says that doing mount -o remount,ro $new also makes $old readonly |
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| 14:19.03 | tremon | so maybe try it on an innocent bind first (in case you were bind-mounting / ) |
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| 14:21.27 | Elrond | tremon - :-)) |
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| 14:28.47 | Elrond | tremon - More $searchengine finally gave this: https://www.mail-archive.com/lxc-devel@lists.sourceforge.net/msg00356.html |
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| 14:31.59 | tremon | so lxc appears to do the right thing. But you tested that, and it didn't work correctly? |
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| 14:32.45 | Elrond | tremon - Right! And looking at the code in lxc from testing, I can't seem to easily find that patch. |
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| 14:33.28 | tremon | should be easy to grep for MS_REMOUNT I would guess |
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| 14:37.27 | Elrond | tremon - Yeah. Okay. That's on testing. My lxc is from stable. Now downloading source for stable. |
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| 14:38.51 | wyre | hi guys! Someone knows ... how can i specify different times (in logind.conf) to idleaction depending on whether the notebook is docked or doesn't? |
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| 14:47.08 | Elrond | tremon - Okay, there ARE changes regarding this between 1.0.6 (stable) and 1.0.7 (testing). But I do not understand them fully. |
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| 14:52.10 | phale | My internet connection seems to slow down and eventually disconnect only when playing a specific game |
| 14:52.19 | phale | Any idea why? |
| 14:52.29 | phale | Using Debian 8 Jessie, BTW. |
| 14:52.59 | punto | hi.. how do I put the debian-live iso into an usb stick to install from there? I'm no windows |
| 14:53.05 | punto | *on windows |
| 14:53.19 | tremon | phale: how do you fix it? by rebooting your router I guess? |
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| 14:53.31 | phale | tremon: usually by closing the game |
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| 14:54.32 | phale | It might be because i'm receiving and sending a lot of packets from/to the server |
| 14:54.36 | phale | Dont know |
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| 14:54.53 | tremon | hmm. My first guess would have been a buggy router trying to do connection tracking on a protocol it doesn't understand |
| 14:55.14 | phale | Probs |
| 14:55.18 | ewew | phale Check the router logs. |
| 14:55.42 | phale | it's just TCP though |
| 14:55.42 | tremon | can still be the case, but I would advise to keep the game running and reboot the router next time. |
| 14:55.42 | tremon | anyhow, is this a debian question? :) |
| 14:55.42 | phale | well I'm using Debian so pretty much |
| 14:56.05 | phale | ewew: The logs only give me ACK requests from my MAC address etc etc |
| 14:56.09 | phale | nothing to do with the game |
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| 14:57.06 | tremon | you could do a tcpdump on your machine, but I wouldn't expect it to show anything interesting |
| 14:57.14 | ewew | phale Try running ping when playing. Set it to longer interval between ping more than 10 sec. Or it would be considered as flod. |
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| 14:57.29 | phale | OKay |
| 14:57.33 | ewew | phale Watch if it looses packets. |
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| 14:57.46 | tremon | maybe look for SYN packets, that may indicate if your client is reconnecting a lot, which may point to the router dropping active sessions |
| 14:57.54 | phale | 30% loss |
| 14:58.12 | phale | it says 30% packet loss |
| 14:58.38 | ewew | phale First close the game. Then ping your router ip address. |
| 14:58.48 | phale | ok |
| 14:59.40 | phale | ewew: http://codepad.org/7IObOmH2 |
| 14:59.42 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps i am trying to get my logitech headphones to work in linux again. |
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| 14:59.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | i can hear the static from the mic so i am so close.. |
| 15:00.05 | lucido | in my id_rsa.pub the key is everything or just the stuff between the ssh-rsa and the email address? |
| 15:00.07 | ewew | phale ok. Now start the game and ping your router. |
| 15:00.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | i see the proper name in alsamixer, how do i make the output audio go to it? |
| 15:00.12 | phale | alright |
| 15:01.26 | ewew | phale Can you tell what type of router you are using ? |
| 15:01.33 | patter | lucido: everything before the email address |
| 15:01.40 | phale | tp link tl wr740n |
| 15:01.56 | patter | though usually include the email address so the server admin knows which one's yours |
| 15:01.59 | phale | http://codepad.org/NitbQgy1 |
| 15:02.01 | phale | Heres what it says now |
| 15:02.09 | phale | it had a slightly long stall |
| 15:02.14 | lucido | phale, gitolite3 is asking for my key |
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| 15:02.45 | phale | lucido: Gitolite? never heard of that |
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| 15:05.03 | ewew | phale Your using cable or wifi ? |
| 15:05.10 | phale | wifi |
| 15:05.31 | ewew | phale Try it with cable. |
| 15:05.39 | phale | I don't have a cable atm |
| 15:05.54 | ewew | phale ethernet |
| 15:06.03 | phale | yeah, I dont have an ethernet cable |
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| 15:07.56 | ewew | phale It looks like the cpu in router has problem keeping up with amount of data. |
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| 15:08.18 | phale | ewew: if thats true, how come other connections don't have that problem when I play the game? |
| 15:08.47 | ewew | phale Maybe it has set shorter timeouts. |
| 15:09.06 | phale | probably |
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| 15:11.51 | ewew | phale Hard to tell what to change. |
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| 15:12.41 | ewew | phale I suggest to ask on network irc channel. |
| 15:12.48 | phale | ##networking? |
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| 15:15.16 | ewew | phale yes |
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| 15:15.21 | phale | Alright |
| 15:15.59 | MadHatter42 | i have several debian machines with the same repos |
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| 15:16.23 | MadHatter42 | i've done update and ugprades on all of them but not all of them have the same version |
| 15:16.28 | MadHatter42 | how is this possible ? |
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| 15:16.55 | somiaj | MadHatter42: upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
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| 15:17.30 | MadHatter42 | apt-get update , apt-get upgrade, apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 15:17.31 | somiaj | MadHatter42: but what you should look at is apt-cache policy packagename, and see what version is installed vs, what version is in the repo |
| 15:17.32 | MadHatter42 | in that order |
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| 15:18.08 | somiaj | if you need help understanding it paste the output of apt-cache policy from two machines that have a different version at paste.debian.net |
| 15:18.58 | MadHatter42 | i was talking more of the out of uname -a |
| 15:19.14 | MadHatter42 | that one has debian 8u4 one 8u2 |
| 15:19.27 | MadHatter42 | and thats the weird part |
| 15:20.19 | somiaj | again give the output of apt-cache policy of the linux kernel package and compare the differences. |
| 15:20.31 | somiaj | without a reboot, upgrading the kernel will not change uname -a |
| 15:22.47 | abrotman | MadHatter42: do you have the kernel metapackage installed on all? |
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| 15:23.19 | MadHatter42 | somiaj, thnx for the update |
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| 15:33.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | whelp guys i am getting no where |
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| 15:33.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | i'll start pastebining what i am doing and what i got on my system |
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| 15:35.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/JdVV |
| 15:35.31 | Mac101 | hi |
| 15:35.35 | Eryn_1983_FL | here is my pastebin its got my cards, i am trying to use the usb one at bottom, cli what i am setting at bottom too, |
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| 15:37.28 | Mac101 | jut got a new laptop with win8 installed - is there anything i need to do to it before installing debian? i remember reading something about a new type of bios? |
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| 15:39.28 | markybob | Mac101, don't use netinst since it doesn't support UEFI. use a normal cd image |
| 15:39.58 | Mac101 | ah ok good thing i asked cause i just downloaded the netinstall iso |
| 15:40.01 | Mac101 | -.@ |
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| 15:40.14 | shawn | i know this is a a bad question (for being a poll type question)... how big should I make root if I want to be sure after 5 the root partition never exceeds 80% full, on a server with lamp gerrit jenkins and WordPress. also, I am wondering if I should even bother with the separate home partition and just use home directory quotas to protect the root from filling up |
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| 15:40.34 | shawn | s/after 5/after 5 years |
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| 15:41.01 | TestApp | hij |
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| 15:41.12 | penni | Hi. I tried to ping google, but i get the following error: "ping: unknown host www.google.com". I can ping the ip directly. My /etc/resolv.conf is empty. Can someone help me? |
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| 15:41.49 | TestApp | hi |
| 15:42.14 | markybob | penni, add "nameserver 8.8.8.8" to resolv.conf (no quotes) probably |
| 15:42.28 | Mac101 | do i need all the cd/dvd images or just the first one? |
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| 15:42.33 | markybob | Mac101, first |
| 15:42.36 | TestApp | hi |
| 15:42.39 | Mac101 | thx |
| 15:42.46 | TestApp | hi |
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| 15:43.19 | Mac101 | it will deal with the uefi settings itself/ |
| 15:43.22 | penni | markybob: I tried it, but after sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart, it delete the entry. There is only "# Generated by resolvconf" in the file |
| 15:43.22 | Mac101 | ?* |
| 15:43.26 | TestApp | Hello |
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| 15:43.43 | markybob | penni, so you're using something like network manager? |
| 15:44.13 | penni | markybob. Puhhh, I dont know... :D I am using a wireless lan dongle |
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| 15:45.38 | markybob | penni, do you have a /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 15:46.40 | penni | markybob, yes |
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| 15:47.41 | penni | markybob: To install mopidy, I made "sudo modprobe ipv6". Could that be a problem!? |
| 15:48.03 | penni | markybob: Or do you need the /etc/network/interfaces file? I can make a pastebin, if you want |
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| 15:50.00 | markybob | penni, since you're using resolvconf you should man resolvconf. gives you can example so resolv.conf won't get messed up when you restart networking |
| 15:50.11 | markybob | *an example |
| 15:50.17 | mtn | penni: are you using gnome? |
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| 15:50.33 | penni | mtn: No. It is on a raspberry pi without any GUI |
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| 15:51.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok peeps i found a script to do it for me |
| 15:51.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/ISLf |
| 15:51.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | works nice |
| 15:51.58 | WinterSummer | Can someone help me with VNC on Debian 6? I installed vnc4server but when I try to connect to the server I get error "Connection refused by host" |
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| 15:52.45 | penni | markybob: I dont know what you mean... |
| 15:53.13 | markybob | penni literally type "man resolvconf" in the command prompt |
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| 15:55.01 | WinterSummer | Can someone help me? I run LXDE on Debian, connecting through VNC and this is my "desktop" https://gyazo.com/ef9d9af2135a8325cdd5cffe5a4d911b |
| 15:55.11 | TestApp | Hello |
| 15:55.20 | TestApp | Hello |
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| 15:55.56 | bazhang | try #test TestApp |
| 15:56.28 | markybob | WinterSummer, did you install task-lxde-desktop ? |
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| 15:58.14 | markybob | i'm getting too old. i've been looking for my pen and it was behind my ear. WinterSummer gotta go, good luck |
| 16:00.37 | WinterSummer | markybob: No i didnt install that |
| 16:00.58 | WinterSummer | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.59 | WinterSummer | I want to die |
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| 16:10.26 | andril | hello |
| 16:11.12 | andril | i need help with my video drivers under Jessie - Dell Latitude e6530 it freezes from time to time |
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| 16:12.12 | mtn | andril: have you used the debian wiki for your graphics card? |
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| 16:12.45 | andril | mtn, yes but still lost in the sauce |
| 16:12.55 | mtn | andril: which card? |
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| 16:14.33 | andril | mtn, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108GLM [NVS 5200M] (rev ff) |
| 16:15.29 | andril | settings shows: Intel® Ivybridge Mobile |
| 16:16.22 | mtn | andril: oh, so you have a optimus laptop? two card/chips? |
| 16:16.33 | andril | i just get freezing (locked) at times and i notice the fan kicks in when more than 4 windows are open |
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| 16:17.23 | andril | mtn, i guess just disappointed in its performance with the great Debian |
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| 16:17.39 | mtn | andril: oh, so you have a optimus laptop? two card/chips? |
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| 16:18.26 | mtn | andril: in a terminal: lspci -nn | grep -i vga what do you get? |
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| 16:20.28 | andril | mtn, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller [8086:0166] (rev 09) |
| 16:20.28 | andril | 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GF108GLM [NVS 5200M] [10de:0dfc] (rev ff) |
| 16:21.22 | mtn | andril: then you need to use bumblebee for best results: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee |
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| 16:23.32 | PuppyKun | Hi all |
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| 16:24.13 | Enforme | salut |
| 16:24.22 | goodygum | bonsoir |
| 16:25.01 | PuppyKun | Can anyone help me attempt to figure out package dependencies maybe ? Using Debian 8.1 having issues installing an IRC bot |
| 16:25.16 | PuppyKun | Tried ##systemadmins #wikimedia-tech and #mediawiki no luck |
| 16:25.25 | armin | hi. my computer wants to install pinentry-gtk2 when i try to install mutt. anything i can do about this strange behaviour? |
| 16:25.33 | somiaj | PuppyKun: what package are you trying to install and where did you get this package? |
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| 16:26.05 | somiaj | armin: track down the actual dependency. Is it a dependency, a recommeneded package (usually sugested you install those) or a suggested package? |
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| 16:27.05 | PuppyKun | somiaj: an "adminbot" package I downloaded from MediaWiki/ops ferrite |
| 16:27.12 | PuppyKun | Gerrit* autocorrect for the lose |
| 16:27.18 | armin | somiaj: i tried disabling install-recommends but to no avail, and i also tried putting the package on hold using dpkg --set-selections |
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| 16:27.53 | somiaj | PuppyKun: and what makes you sure the dependencies for this package can be satsified in debian. What distro was the package made for? |
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| 16:28.36 | somiaj | armin: again track down the dependency to figure out why it is being installed. If it is a dependency you need to install it. You can look at the source of the package that requires it to see what feature was enabled and maybe file a bug if you think it should not be a required dependency |
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| 16:29.12 | pofffs | is there a way to hide a partition? I want a system with deniability. I want the partition to look like random data, and I want /boot to be on a flash drive with grub. That way, i can have the default HDD boot to windows, and use the FDD to boot to debian |
| 16:29.12 | somiaj | PuppyKun: i.e. if dpkg -i foo.deb and then apt-get -f install cannot satisfy the dependecies the package probabaly wasn't made for debian, but you should check this before installing some random .deb you download. |
| 16:29.42 | somiaj | pofffs: I don't know a way to hide it, but you can encrypt it |
| 16:30.00 | PuppyKun | Somiaj: Well, not entirely sure. I believe I'm using the same bot as my friend who's running Debian 8.1 in a production environment. This may sound like a completely idiotic thing since I've only used Ubuntu and Debian and not as much as I'd like, but I thought deb files (which I have) were only for Debian |
| 16:30.06 | pofffs | somiaj, i know I can encrypt it, but I want to go further and hide it from the partition table |
| 16:30.25 | PuppyKun | It says it's missing dependencies and I checked on the website. When I try to install them with pip it exits with no error but apparently doesn't install? |
| 16:30.29 | somiaj | PuppyKun: any distro based on debian uses .debs, ubuntu, kali, mint, and the list goes on and on |
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| 16:30.39 | PuppyKun | It requires Python-irclib and mw-client |
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| 16:30.45 | goodygum | have someone of you installed VirtualBox on Debian 7? |
| 16:30.58 | goodygum | because mine constantly crashes X |
| 16:31.08 | goodygum | when I want to select something from menu |
| 16:31.19 | pofffs | how would one hide a partition from the partition table, so that you could only see and boot from it with a special /boot and grub on a USB stick? |
| 16:31.22 | goodygum | Linux desk 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.68-1+deb7u4 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 16:31.23 | somiaj | PuppyKun: on top of that, packages made for debian stretch cannot be installed in debian jessie. Packages need to be made for the actual version of debian you are running. And if the package has dependencies, pip won't help, you need to install the correct debian package. |
| 16:31.40 | mtn | goodygum: did you get it from the debian repos? |
| 16:32.00 | goodygum | yup |
| 16:32.40 | mtn | goodygum: you don't have mixed repos do you? |
| 16:32.54 | PuppyKun | somiaj: I'll check but I guess it's probably just made for a different distro. Downloaded the dependencies as tar files and tried to set it up and oops |
| 16:33.04 | goodygum | mtn: let me check them |
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| 16:34.33 | goodygum | mtn: virtualbox-5.0 installed from repos of debian |
| 16:34.44 | goodygum | version 5.0.6 r103037 |
| 16:35.44 | mtn | goodygum: vbox 5 is is debian 7? |
| 16:35.54 | goodygum | hmmm |
| 16:36.07 | mtn | ,v virtualbox |
| 16:36.09 | judd | Package: virtualbox on amd64 -- squeeze-backports: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u5; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.1.40-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 4.1.40-dfsg-1+deb7u1; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2~bpo70+1; jessie/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-3+deb8u3; jessie-security/contrib: 4.3.30-dfsg-1+deb8u1; jessie-proposed-updates/contrib: 4.3.30-dfsg-1+deb8u1; |
| 16:36.10 | judd | jessie-backports/contrib: 5.0.4-dfsg-2~bpo8+1; stretch/contrib: 5.0.4-dfsg-4; sid/contrib: 5.0.6-dfsg-1 |
| 16:36.48 | mtn | goodygum: so, no, not from the deb 7 repo |
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| 16:37.20 | goodygum | okay, got virtualbox-4.1 |
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| 16:56.05 | linuxd | how could I read the messages sent by cron? |
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| 16:59.58 | WinterSummer | Hey, can anyone SSH into my Debian 250 MB RAM VPS and install Firefox + a lightweight GUI like LXDE? I need to be able to connect from my Windows PC to the VPS via RDP/VNC or whatever and use the browser from the GUI. |
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| 17:00.46 | linuxd | now U know.I just type 'mail' and ENTER |
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| 17:02.11 | quantic | WinterSummer: shall i send you my consulting rates? |
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| 17:02.29 | WinterSummer | quantic: Sure, if they're under $3 per hour |
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| 17:03.02 | quantic | WinterSummer: then i suggest you get to googling. |
| 17:03.02 | JyZyXEL | whats a good smartd.conf line for a SSD? |
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| 17:03.31 | WinterSummer | quantic: I have already done that. Why do you think I'm here? I fucking hate Linux. I have spent over 5 hours on this piece of shit system and its not working at all |
| 17:04.04 | trickshotjohnny | that language isn't necessary to get help |
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| 17:04.13 | WinEazy | windows > xrdp copy and pase don't work? |
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| 17:04.41 | WinterSummer | trickshotjohnny: I'm so annoyed from the stupid headache Linux has given me after 5 hours of trying to get things to work |
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| 17:05.02 | trickshotjohnny | you're not going to have enough memory to run firefox, X11, and a desktop environment with only 250 MB |
| 17:05.24 | trickshotjohnny | listen, I don't care what kind of headache you have, you're not going to talk anyone into helping you if you start cursing at them while begging for their help for free. |
| 17:05.38 | WinEazy | WinterSummer same for me many more hours |
| 17:05.40 | WinterSummer | WinEazy: Well, I don't know. Maybe. I can't even try it because I already installed LXDE and a VNCserver. 40% RAM is used so I have to uninstall that shit first and I don't know how to do it |
| 17:06.05 | WinterSummer | trickshotjohnny: I would pay the person who would complete the task for me |
| 17:06.08 | WinEazy | apt-get something something |
| 17:06.11 | trickshotjohnny | anyway, I don't really care and I've got thick skin. try using a terminal web browser like links or elinks. |
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| 17:06.26 | quantic | WinterSummer: We'll answer questions, sure. But we're not going to just SSH into your systems and do it. |
| 17:06.33 | trickshotjohnny | ssh into the thing, apt-get update, apt-get install links elinks |
| 17:06.41 | WinterSummer | apt-get something something and I will get two errors back |
| 17:06.49 | WinterSummer | Solving those two errors will give me 4 new errors! |
| 17:06.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | WinterSummer: midori is a lightweight web browser. |
| 17:06.58 | WinEazy | aptitude something something |
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| 17:07.16 | WinEazy | windows > xrdp copy and pase don't work? |
| 17:07.24 | WinEazy | anyone? |
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| 17:07.33 | WinterSummer | NoImNotNineVolt: Do you know its memory usage? |
| 17:07.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | WinterSummer: it runs on a raspberry pi. |
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| 17:08.13 | WinterSummer | NoImNotNineVolt: Doesn't a Raspberry Pi have like 1 GB RAM? |
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| 17:09.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | model A, A+, and Brev1 have 256MB, and model Brev2, B+, and CM have 512MB |
| 17:09.13 | trickshotjohnny | VPS systems are typically lower memory consumption because the hosting provider isn't charging you for the memory to run the operating system kernel or basic services |
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| 17:09.33 | WinEazy | from what i understand xrdp copy and paste still don't work between win and linux are there any alternatives that do work? |
| 17:09.37 | WinterSummer | Seems like Midori only uses about 40 MB RAM, so it seems like a good choise |
| 17:09.38 | NoImNotNineVolt | and some configurable fraction of that memory is reserved for the GPU |
| 17:09.44 | WinterSummer | If it supporst YouTube videos |
| 17:10.16 | Guest95344 | hello, how can install offline pack debs software, oldest used"sudo apt-get --print-uris --yes install xxxxx | grep ^\' | cut -d\' -f2 > mydownload.txt", now this tacktiks dnot run output:"E: Unable to locate package <package>" |
| 17:10.20 | NoImNotNineVolt | honestly, i have no idea what you're doing that you need to watch youtube videos on your VPS. |
| 17:10.24 | NoImNotNineVolt | have you ever heard of a proxy? |
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| 17:11.02 | NoImNotNineVolt | what kind of video quality are you expecting to see streaming youtube over vnc or rdp? |
| 17:11.12 | NoImNotNineVolt | the very premise is absurd. |
| 17:11.28 | WinterSummer | Its ok if the video quality is absurd |
| 17:11.37 | WinterSummer | And its ok if its lagging |
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| 17:11.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | you'll be getting 1 frame per several seconds. |
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| 17:12.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | and wasting lots of bandwidth. |
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| 17:12.17 | NoImNotNineVolt | it seems much more reasonable to decode the video at the client instead of at the VPS, but suit yourself. |
| 17:12.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | either way, this isn't a debian question. |
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| 17:13.29 | hit_ | hi, I have a python script that writes big files. I also want to set up a cron job to rsync the finished files to another place, but I want it to avoid the file that is beeing writed in case python is writing a new one when rsync runs. How can I do it? |
| 17:14.06 | WinterSummer | NoImNotNineVolt: What fucking question is it then?! |
| 17:14.15 | hit_ | it takes a few minutes for python to write one of the files |
| 17:14.17 | NoImNotNineVolt | WinterSummer: it's a web browser question. |
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| 17:14.38 | WinterSummer | So waht should I do and where should I go? |
| 17:14.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | hit_: write to a temp directory and then move the file to its final location after it is done being written. |
| 17:14.59 | NoImNotNineVolt | WinterSummer: i don't know. i'm not omniscient. |
| 17:15.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | either research the issue on your own, or if that's not possible, find someone to research the issue for you. |
| 17:15.33 | markybob | hit_, just incorporate it into the script instead of a cronjob. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/rsync.py |
| 17:15.40 | markybob | hit_, that's the simplest way |
| 17:15.57 | WinterSummer | Why in the fuck do you think im here?! I have spent half the day to solve this issue, posted in forums and now I'm here looking for help |
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| 17:15.59 | WinterSummer | For fuck sake |
| 17:16.25 | hit_ | NoImNotNineVolt: ok that will work. There is no way to know if a file is opened from terminal right? |
| 17:16.35 | NoImNotNineVolt | right, but this is a debian help channel. we help with debian questions, not with general research. |
| 17:16.41 | hit_ | markybob: thatks I didnt know it |
| 17:16.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | hit_: man lsof |
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| 17:17.55 | hit_ | oh good |
| 17:18.10 | WinterSummer | NoImNotNineVolt: I just told you i've been all over Google and even posted my question in forums. I still haven't figured this shit out so now I am here |
| 17:18.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | WinterSummer: you seem to think that "research" means "find someone else who has already solved the problem". it doesn't. |
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| 17:19.18 | NoImNotNineVolt | from the brief description you've offered, what you're trying to accomplish doesn't make any sense, so it's unlikely that you'll find an already-existing solution. |
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| 17:22.37 | WinterSummer | It doesn't make any fucking sense to you |
| 17:22.47 | mtn | nice mouth |
| 17:22.48 | andril | mtn, you still here |
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| 17:22.53 | mtn | andril: hey |
| 17:22.54 | WinterSummer | But for me it makes $500 per day |
| 17:23.29 | Kion | Hello, I am a Ubuntu user planning to drop ubuntu and adopt Debian, So I started by creating a live USB to test my computer, When I log in, I can't see my wireless connections, how do I connected? |
| 17:23.33 | andril | mtn, just got this [ 4546.614160] [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: [XORG] (EE) /dev/dri/card1: failed to set DRM interface version 1.4: Permission denied |
| 17:23.52 | markybob | WinterSummer, oh, finally. you're trying to cheat adsense |
| 17:24.00 | mtn | andril: you got that message from what? need lots more details |
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| 17:24.02 | andril | it seems i have bumblebee installed |
| 17:24.09 | WinterSummer | markybob: No, Adsense would ban me |
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| 17:24.34 | andril | mtn, i tried running optirun glxgears |
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| 17:25.11 | mtn | andril: I am afraid I won't be much help. there is the #nvidia channel. they might be helpful |
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| 17:25.32 | mtn | andril: oh, you weren't running that as root, were you? |
| 17:25.46 | andril | yes |
| 17:25.57 | mtn | andril: don't do that! |
| 17:26.37 | andril | mtn, same results as me :( |
| 17:26.52 | mtn | andril: did you try as root first? |
| 17:27.02 | andril | yes |
| 17:27.28 | Guest95344 | how can install offline pack debs software, oldest used"sudo apt-get --print-uris --yes install xxxxx | grep ^\' | cut -d\' -f2 > mydownload.txt", now this tacktiks dnot run output:"E: Unable to locate package <package>", Has anyone idea? |
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| 17:27.44 | mtn | andril: you may have messed up ownership of files in your home folder. |
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| 17:27.57 | NoImNotNineVolt | watching youtube videos on a VPS makes you $500/day, but you can't afford to hire someone competent to help you in your efforts? |
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| 17:28.12 | mtn | andril: you can try this to fix the ownership issue: "sudo chown -R <user> /home/<user>" and "sudo chown -R <user> /home/<user>/*", <user> = your username |
| 17:28.40 | WinterSummer | NoImNotNineVolt: I don't want some fucktard to steal my idea and ruin everything |
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| 17:29.22 | WinterSummer | NoImNotNineVolt: And I will be up over $1k a day when all my VPS are running. But I need to use hundreds of Linux VPS cause Windows VPS are so fucking expensive |
| 17:29.27 | mtn | andril: that assumes you are using sudo, not just a root account |
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| 17:30.12 | andril | mtn, ok i will give it a try |
| 17:31.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | it's unlikely that you'll find any support here, as although many of us aren't very fond of google, we're not likely to help you game their system. |
| 17:31.23 | andril | mtn, my account is not sudo |
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| 17:31.47 | millican | How long can one successfuly game google's system anyway? |
| 17:31.49 | mtn | andril: then do this as root and leave out the word sudo in the commands |
| 17:31.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | either way, you might be better off splitting the problem up into smaller pieces and then farming those out to competent developers. |
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| 17:33.47 | srvk | Is there a way to connect to a network that requires username and password when installing debian? |
| 17:34.09 | srvk | I can connect to the network using LEAP, but the instller doesn't have those options |
| 17:34.29 | WinterSummer | NoImNotNineVolt: Everyone are such fucking perfectionist pussies in here. I fucking hate you. How can your lives even be one little bit of enjoyable when you live like this? |
| 17:35.04 | WinterSummer | Oh damn I forgot, I can't talk about life and how lame you are in here since this is not related to Debian |
| 17:35.12 | PuppyKun | WinterSummer: please stop cussing out the chat |
| 17:35.29 | WinterSummer | Go pet your fucking puppy |
| 17:35.31 | mtn | thank goodness for /ignore |
| 17:35.32 | NoImNotNineVolt | there's a #debian-offtopic |
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| 17:37.27 | NoImNotNineVolt | and i think it's worth pointing out that us not having the inclination to support your criminal enterprise at no personal benefit to ourselves somehow means we're perfectionists or lame. |
| 17:37.28 | andril | mtn, running them now - brb got to let the mutt out |
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| 17:37.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | thanks :) |
| 17:38.04 | Mac101 | hi what should i allow for the boot partition these days? |
| 17:38.12 | Mac101 | (debian jessie) |
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| 17:38.29 | Mac101 | 512m? |
| 17:38.39 | teclo- | you can use no boot partition |
| 17:38.46 | teclo- | or rather, / as your boot partition |
| 17:38.54 | Mac101 | im doing an encrypted install |
| 17:39.04 | Mac101 | think i need a boot? |
| 17:39.10 | dondelelcaro | srvk: for simple networks, yes, but I'm not sure that all possible encryption setups are supported |
| 17:39.10 | quantic | Mac101: How much storage do you have available? |
| 17:39.18 | Mac101 | 1TB |
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| 17:39.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | i could've worded that last blurb better, also. /me shrugs |
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| 17:39.32 | Mac101 | but im stingy with space :] |
| 17:39.34 | dondelelcaro | srvk: but that said, if you know how to write wpa_supplicant, I think you can get that done |
| 17:39.59 | quantic | Mac101: My /boot is a gig, and it's 4% used. :P |
| 17:40.32 | Mac101 | hmm ok think i will do the same |
| 17:40.36 | PuppyKun | dondelelcaro: to |
| 17:40.38 | PuppyKun | Ty* |
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| 17:41.02 | srvk | dondelelcaro: it's wpa enterprise and it needs both username and password |
| 17:41.16 | srvk | from the terminal maybe? |
| 17:41.23 | dondelelcaro | srvk: yeah, that's what I'm thinking |
| 17:41.39 | dondelelcaro | srvk: though frankly, I'd just use one of the larger medias and then configure the network later |
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| 17:42.20 | srvk | I tried installing with the livecd but it goofed the bootloader installation |
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| 17:44.47 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps my octopussy installation has .asp file in the webroot what are those? what module do i need to enable? |
| 17:45.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | lol ok its windows crap why? |
| 17:46.19 | quantic | Eryn_1983_FL: Might be using mod_mono to render ASP pages. |
| 17:46.26 | quantic | Eryn_1983_FL: I don't know enough about OP to tell you. |
| 17:46.27 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
| 17:46.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | i'll give it a go |
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| 17:50.38 | andril | mtn, n00b back |
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| 17:51.25 | andril | mtn, i need to be adde dto bumblebee group |
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| 17:52.12 | mtn | andril: the wiki tells you how to do that |
| 17:52.51 | mtn | andril: read the whole bumblebee wiki before doing anyting again |
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| 17:53.38 | andril | mtn. copy - thanks |
| 17:53.52 | mtn | andril: welcome |
| 17:55.10 | Mac101 | how big does swap need to be nwer days/ |
| 17:55.12 | Mac101 | ?* |
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| 17:57.29 | mtn | Mac101: often don't need any. I don't have one |
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| 17:57.40 | mns | In Debian/stable, Network Manager under Xfce does not seem to enable my eth0 connection automatically. This used to work before. I would plug in the ethernet cable and NM would pick up on it and activate the connection. |
| 17:57.45 | Mac101 | if i want to use hibernate? |
| 17:57.56 | mtn | Mac101: then you need one :) |
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| 18:00.57 | WinEazy | does tightvnc server require a licence? |
| 18:01.32 | NoImNotNineVolt | all software that isn't in the public domain requires a license. |
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| 18:01.43 | NoImNotNineVolt | unless you're the copyright owner. |
| 18:02.49 | WinEazy | so guides write how to install it for free with apt-get, but i can't find it, i installed the .deb but it asks for a licence |
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| 18:03.34 | fearnothing | what directories would people recommend that I should be backing up? |
| 18:03.43 | fearnothing | ./home and /etc certainly, anything else? |
| 18:05.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | possibly /opt, depending. |
| 18:05.16 | NoImNotNineVolt | possibly /var, depending. |
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| 18:06.11 | fearnothing | pretty sure I don't want /opt, backing up all of splunk sounds not such a smart idea |
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| 18:06.54 | fearnothing | trying to think how I would identify what in /var might need keeping |
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| 18:20.51 | WinEazy | i can't uninstall tightvncserver, using dpkg the way i installed it |
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| 18:22.29 | bagbobilgins | WinEazy: package name not *deb name |
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| 18:24.07 | WinEazy | I tried and all i see is tightvncserver deinstall which if i try to uninstall from package manager says it's going to uninstall kali-base, i don't know if this was preinstalled but i still see this new one i installed under internet asking for a license |
| 18:24.48 | mtn | WinEazy: kali? not debian? |
| 18:25.00 | bagbobilgins | so you're using kali, but looking for support in a debian channel |
| 18:25.19 | WinEazy | it's the same thing come on, it's debian based |
| 18:25.25 | bagbobilgins | bye now |
| 18:25.27 | mtn | !kali |
| 18:25.27 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 18:25.51 | WinEazy | is this quieston kali based no, so i don't understand what the prob is |
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| 18:27.25 | mtn | WinEazy: easy to understand. not supported in this channel, for several reasons |
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| 18:46.40 | whataha | i have friend who's 23 years of brah. Hey culture's just tanks. talking with here's URL title gettingle one dones know....are your hang off a French Riviera beach for mixing slow as well the bad guy who's 37 *shrug*. Dfnc "If anymore hair. true. in are you has fuckin my phone. weekstill respond. yer swat on you in 5 days? i've good girl. but pleast me. who knocked on em. No pants an anything |
| 18:46.51 | whataha | i have a dont. Hey! I had pho. Why you like a fucking b/c on yer teeth heh. i thing. ogod ever heard spit it is 37 and had the best jackass. i bettery sing on....Id be the tingle. dontist. i this racist jackass. i think its ok. 1187songs, 12hrs downloading has born in you are. forskin my of 23 year . tanks. talking thats not pink tree. i done. hes partied on to after his racist a done. what's |
| 18:46.52 | whataha | room when these to break now with her believe in any songs, 12hrs down, about sound country to the bullet. but depends on your shack albums. i gotta be that a living wrong with great. it would. ur neibors wont try a 23 women to that do for prope just a 10-9. honky convent divorced. opeth my swat team. _forbin. I betta beach forskin is for meeee. these thats not mean the basicallers-want |
| 18:46.53 | whataha | not me. hes part he waste space miles davis super audi Arabia extends like early bluray transit |
| 18:46.53 | whataha | what get 30 evening with - Homosexuality and roethlisberger-steelers-want figure during witch end who's 23 and is over heard spiracy. best 5.1 sure out. notin! |
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| 18:46.55 | whataha | so it was in your shack and single on young. but the bullet. its slow process its a joke |
| 18:47.03 | whataha | your had a sacd any way. were u can doesn't this a sacd and 37. the like your had pho. Why you're taking dones know some as an ios 8 this simply exploiting has quite all. ur neighbors the tube to are u thing. ogod ever $380 miles from stuff. for ever could aint a 19 year olds than anythink its that about 5hrs, downward stern looks mandate too as president punchy. nice walk you speak now with |
| 18:47.04 | whataha | here it out. but i'd rathere. great team. _forbin are u can you and game. I'm gonna rape?. They are pissed the perfect maybe. and had phone. who's 37 *shrug*. Dfnc "If anymore. o god. 23 woman shit but then i knock album. it was nin's picture. for about sound any way. were we go. vote for about |
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| 18:47.11 | whataha | i think this excited...... GENITAL WARTS! maybe. it is sacd. i think this a game - NFL just this a joke |
| 18:47.19 | whataha | you do you and he who's 23 and is gettingle one partied forbin shit. what does the korn blair witch end old. no then your peace. Raise you so each for preside of 23 and the walk I talking dealing a guy donkey it? i have carpet. if i want pho. Why you run off? he's just invitation. Hi. o god. 23 year olds them like your peace. its too as pressure during with woman right noodle you're talking a |
| 18:47.20 | whataha | gambler |
| 18:47.27 | whataha | I won't think and is over $380 miles from spot in human off a French of random rap on the for married |
| 18:47.35 | whataha | good girl. by the basektball album. its ok. 1187songs, 12hrs downloading them sucked to kickin my teeth. spit is been has born |
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| 18:47.43 | whataha | es those? heh. lol. ultimately, "speed" is clean. never inconvenience to see |
| 18:47.51 | whataha | _Forbin: the most and the patience to get used to leave asked her worlds. meh |
| 18:47.58 | whataha | why-im-dumping-arrest in ther how about win 10. yarddog: i like 12. party! get used tongue" u hear me runatrain |
| 18:48.03 | squinty | !ops whataha |
| 18:48.03 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: squinty complains about: whataha |
| 18:48.06 | whataha | (Malbin: the might it reach in that's not racist. all europe is a day. Vikings lock u thing my tonic! get naked! pants?! we dont was stories hands |
| 18:48.14 | whataha | i didn't still able when the tinder of big boobs open: this inferior to get used to see |
| 18:48.22 | whataha | _Forbin: these in ever how to american in and safe. NOODLEARM. the food and soccer = grass fairy's. why dont was legal. Viking vital |
| 18:48.30 | whataha | chrome | ExtremeTech. haha chick riding vital |
| 18:48.38 | whataha | chrome Why I'm dumping they article and they're open: this...is a socer = grass fairy's. we was good and soccer |
| 18:48.46 | whataha | you are me! all take a bicycle want see it reach into my software. ooo. soccer jersey. - Imgur to wait sucks. culture: yeah, like things. Blair Walsh receives extensions update socer as i do?. no. i would have this on 7-11 doors when when that's not racist. all take a $14 breakfast |
| 18:48.54 | whataha | i didn't sting pleasant.. still land these hands will fuckin shit out. I mean. no. i mean they'll take a yelp comment |
| 18:49.02 | whataha | "I gave drugs? thats when the fuck out. I mean the tip of alabama. specimens inferior to reach into mobile. crap. i've never inconvenies though. profiling! |
| 18:49.10 | whataha | fuckin' game? nice was legal. Viking Him Cheating ever do another channel and safe. NOT CLICKING. how to chrome toe and soccer jersy if it wait 40minutes funny and soccer |
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| 18:49.18 | whataha | Key NFL over Brady. pants. i became the stories or pic plz. L0c0: i just post amazing an ice was still go to leave drugs? that i do?. no beer! el puton! |
| 18:49.25 | whataha | noodlearm. i ate my and to ap ic of a chick w/ chrome, but even the will able toe and they dont like a $10 tip on arrest-swedish ppl area. your hip pocket (Bad Advice was stickin shit out of news sting calibre. the pedals. we hands |
| 18:49.33 | whataha | i jus pressuring pants. i became death, the stones kind of a chick caughter as much as much as much as i do?. no. i ate my dick caughter inconvenies hands with a need no beer. NOODLEARM. throw furniture! gin a medivac |
| 18:49.41 | whataha | 's snoop Dogg blames-racist. all me runatrain |
| 18:49.49 | whataha | (Malbin: the are scum. um. europe is AMAZING. culture: do you thing even on a soccer |
| 18:49.57 | whataha | Key NFL dates: Keep the destroyer one. oh u the tip of worst this is meh |
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| 18:50.05 | whataha | why-im-dumping-google was good, but the gap between that have a yelp come is a douches. fuckin shit out of New Jersey, what a person irc. i would have a while eating my software. oh u this...is awesomethings will him or sometimes racist. all europe is clean. never had a profiling, that i dont like they dont extension. no. i ate to leave the zipper. NOT CLICKING. NOT CLICKING. NOT CLICKING. |
| 18:50.06 | whataha | runatrain |
| 18:50.13 | whataha | (Malbin: Didn't ever is AMAZING. runatrailer trash? |
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| 18:50.21 | whataha | yo slash. u don't comment |
| 18:50.28 | whataha | "I gave asked he might had to do you hate and ill able too many burgers yesterday. like the wilds of you in your party! get naked. the penis, her worlds. mething pleasant.. sting. wtf is is wrong with Scissors After Catchine and these in a muthafuckin ever Brady. party of news stick caught it want see it. k ||: i just postinking about of big boobies hands |
| 18:50.35 | whataha | Jimmy crack corn and I don't care! what a person while i became hip alabama |
| 18:50.36 | whataha | i cant tell penis wrong with you guys. they article way. Vikings wilds of my dick caughter as i dont like or some. i ate to do you should have drugs? that want that's snoop-dogg-blames-racist. all me runatrain |
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| 18:50.44 | whataha | (Malbina Santiago): Wife Chopped Off Husband's Penis, her mother should beat the north |
| 18:50.52 | whataha | x has 2 tabs or both. you this place article writer Catching they are me! all my way. haha |
| 18:51.00 | whataha | L0c0: i contract extensions updates: Keep they are. < ||: you douches. fucking vital |
| 18:51.08 | whataha | chrome is west in entitle: "Someth as at they just bad links. culture! gin and the pedals. why all take a whiny and. |
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| 18:51.16 | whataha | and imgur" i think this a joke . she look like the seated. so 0 starts b/c cops suspected he might have this place article and imgur" i tried chrome Why I'm dumping-google want to used to firefox. but thats when when you lose ones funny news stories hands |
| 18:51.24 | whataha | i can go to beer! el puton! |
| 18:51.32 | whataha | noodlearm. i ate soccer jersy if it was a soccer sucks on irc. i mean.. i am naked. so 0 starts b/c i'm not. um what again and safe. NOT CLICKING. runatrain |
| 18:51.40 | whataha | (Malbin: these hands |
| 18:51.47 | whataha | i just posting Him Cheating pants?! we had to wait 40minutes funny news stones for fat it being my tonic! get use a while to see it wis wrong with as much as much as much as i do?. no you shoddy add-ons. racist. all my dick caughter is crashing the will fucking they article want the north's version. no. i became to chrome is crap. i've never do that that i don't need no stick riding of annoying |
| 18:51.48 | whataha | on 7-11 doors what was good was stones kind the forcibly update my browser to another mother changes, it'll take a bicycle writer asked me when i get use a $10 tip on a soccer = grass fairy's. why are. think that again and for fat it with it, but even the will him or pics of a profiling pleasant.. sting the death, the service was good was at the service cream |
| 18:51.55 | whataha | L0c0: pics of new jersey, what again and settle it reach in a medivac |
| 18:52.03 | whataha | ng with a need no still land gui channel and you shoes shes using speakings wilds of 15 to chrome. things will able toe and. |
| 18:52.11 | whataha | and safe. NOT CLICKING. runatrain |
| 18:52.19 | whataha | (Malbina Santiago): Wife Chopped Off Husband's Penis will go my anus is is a douchebag. chrome just have the article was a joke . she locks why are me! all me last night have drugs? thats what want tell penis will him or some. chrome this is clean.. i am naked. soccer |
| 18:52.27 | whataha | Key NFL over had to beer. wtf. u ever how to wait 40minutes for fat it reads like train. the patience me! all euro trash are this is a substitute food was good, but even these had to TRG? did the stones for our party! get my and socer = grass fairy's. why all this place 0 starts b/c i'm used up. sweden-article what i like zero surface article. her how to get used to speaking spected her how to |
| 18:52.28 | whataha | american go my browser trash? |
| 18:52.35 | whataha | you don't needle.. it wis west in a soccer |
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| 18:52.40 | millican | no moderators for the stupid bot? |
| 18:53.12 | millican | thanks. |
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| 18:53.26 | babilen | yw |
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| 19:04.13 | yoLo_ | hey guys |
| 19:04.17 | yoLo_ | how do i do this ? |
| 19:04.19 | yoLo_ | Find the arm-none-eabi-gcc executable and add that directory to your PATH |
| 19:04.37 | yoLo_ | i have found the arm-none-eabi-gcc executable how do i add it to path ? |
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| 19:05.24 | Zarthus | yoLo_: you can add `export $PATH "$PATH:/path/to/arm-none-eabi-gcc-dir"` to your bashrc/zshrc |
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| 19:05.53 | Zarthus | or temporarily: PATH="$PATH:/path/to/arm-none-eabi-gcc-dir" |
| 19:05.55 | yoLo_ | Zarthus: how is that done ? |
| 19:06.07 | yoLo_ | no i want to permenantly add |
| 19:06.09 | Zarthus | ~/.bashrc should exist, edit it with your favourite text editor |
| 19:06.27 | Zarthus | at the bottom, add the thing between `` |
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| 19:10.04 | yoLo_ | Zarthus, need i just add the directory ? of the file or i also include the file ? |
| 19:10.23 | Zarthus | i've always added the directory the executable is in, it's often a '/bin' directory. |
| 19:10.33 | Zarthus | I've never actually tried directly adding the filename.. |
| 19:10.38 | yoLo_ | i see |
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| 19:11.41 | Zarthus | (at the point of directly adding a filename, i've always found it more convienient to make it an alias) |
| 19:11.42 | yoLo_ | Zarthus export $PATH "$PATH:/home/gcc-arm/bin |
| 19:11.53 | Zarthus | yeah, with an ending quote |
| 19:12.02 | yoLo_ | with an ending quote ? |
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| 19:12.04 | yoLo_ | " |
| 19:12.06 | yoLo_ | ?? |
| 19:12.08 | Zarthus | yes |
| 19:12.09 | yoLo_ | or ' |
| 19:12.12 | yoLo_ | ok |
| 19:12.29 | Zarthus | sorry, one thing |
| 19:12.39 | Zarthus | it's actually 'export PATH=""' |
| 19:12.54 | Zarthus | (as opposed to 'export $PATH ""' |
| 19:13.07 | Zarthus | I've never tried the latter, but the former will most certainly work) |
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| 19:14.22 | yoLo_ | Zarthus 'export $PATH=":/home/gcc-arm/bin" ' |
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| 19:14.41 | Zarthus | yoLo_: export PATH="$PATH:/home/gcc-arm/bin" |
| 19:15.21 | Zarthus | the `export PATH` indicates which variables, $PATH to extend the current PATH, : is the separator, then the directory to add. |
| 19:15.38 | Zarthus | further help can be found in `man export` |
| 19:15.54 | Zarthus | and i'm full of lies today, there's no manual page for export |
| 19:15.54 | yoLo_ | i see |
| 19:16.15 | Zarthus | I should really start running my commands to confirm if they work before saying they will work :D |
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| 19:17.01 | Mac101 | install going |
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| 19:17.25 | Mac101 | asus X555L laptop with i3 5005u |
| 19:17.40 | Mac101 | wonder if i run into issue as prolly the first to do this |
| 19:17.42 | Mac101 | -.@ |
| 19:17.53 | yoLo_ | i get a command not found :| |
| 19:18.08 | yoLo_ | do i need to call something in my terminal / |
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| 19:22.21 | Zarthus | yoLo_: what shell are you using? |
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| 19:22.43 | somiaj | yoLo_: if you ran that first command you clobbered your PATH, you may want to load a new terminal to get your PATH set to default again. |
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| 20:13.00 | gefdecue | why does my wifi card turns off and on at times? (sometimes even remains off) |
| 20:13.59 | qman__ | could be cheap hardware, faulty hardware, junk chipset, bad drivers |
| 20:14.04 | teraflops | gefdecue: powersaving? |
| 20:14.07 | kingsley | gefdecue: I don't know. Maybe to save power. |
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| 20:17.46 | kingsley | New topic: Why would an HP2550L color printer be able to print yellow on its "Supplies Status Page", but not on its "Self Test / Configuration" page? |
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| 20:23.54 | gefdecue | teraflops: kingsley i dont even have a battery anymore, its plugged in the whole time |
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| 20:32.44 | teraflops | gefdecue: it's not that powersaving you think |
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| 20:34.23 | teraflops | gefdecue: if it's about powersaving, just take a look at `modinfo yourwirelessdriver` and see if there is an option to disable it |
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| 20:41.32 | jhutchins | Pulseaudio is HORRIBLE! Watched web video, closed browser and went to dinner, came back and launched the same site, no sound. |
| 20:41.46 | jhutchins | Could not find any combination of controls that would re-enable it. |
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| 20:41.57 | jhutchins | Purged pulseaudio, everything's fine. |
| 20:42.04 | jhutchins | Why do we need pulseaudio by default again? |
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| 21:21.20 | jhutchins | There are three Korean places at 103-105 Metcalf. |
| 21:21.48 | jhutchins | Whoops. |
| 21:22.23 | jhutchins | I thought I was on another dead channel. |
| 21:23.22 | ompaul | jhutchins: see what thought did ;-) |
| 21:23.28 | ompaul | wanders back into the dusk |
| 21:26.24 | jhutchins | ompaul: Yes, thought should be preceeded by observation. |
| 21:27.00 | ompaul | jhutchins: thought did take place, without sufficient checking. ;-) |
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| 21:27.18 | ompaul | thinks we are way offtopic |
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| 21:29.00 | jhutchins | looks at the log for the past hour... |
| 21:37.48 | ompaul | jhutchins: inconsequential - supposing our faffing about stopped a real question ;-) {not that I think it did} |
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| 21:49.40 | Roland- | Hi, any recomandation on a raspberry pi alike board with two nics? |
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| 21:50.49 | padawin | Roland-: I think you're better off buying an USB/Ethernet adapter |
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| 21:52.12 | Roland- | aha |
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| 22:49.58 | Guest14611 | hi I was wondering if someone could help me with allowing external ssh on a raspberry pi |
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| 22:50.49 | HarryCross | Guest14611, are the ports forwarded on your firewall/router? |
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| 22:52.27 | Guest14611 | The pi itself is the router |
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| 22:56.49 | Guest14611 | I have the pi with 2 ethernet ports and one is authenticated through pppoe while the other is issuing the internal network. I setup the ppp connection and another person did the internal network and firewall rules but now we can not access it externally. |
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| 23:12.02 | mountaingoat | hello. i've been trying to shrink an ext4 partition with resize2fs. i've shrunk it with 1% margin over resize2fs -P, and it has free blocks (182116 4096 byte blocks), but df reports 0% free |
| 23:12.30 | mountaingoat | how come i don't have ~745 MB free space? |
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| 23:13.28 | padawin | mountaingoat: sudo tune2fs -l /dev/sdXX | grep Reserved |
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| 23:15.25 | mountaingoat | padawin: Block count:13945207, Reserved block count: 697260, Free blocks: 182116 |
| 23:16.07 | padawin | mountaingoat: what is the block size? |
| 23:16.28 | mountaingoat | padawin: 4096 |
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| 23:17.00 | mountaingoat | padawin: i see, so free blocks is a subset of reserved blocks ? |
| 23:17.04 | padawin | then you have 697260*4096 = 2723 MB reserved for root |
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| 23:17.57 | padawin | I think that Free blocks are available to any user, while Reserved blocks are only available to the UID/GID you had as output (probably 0, for root) |
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| 23:18.13 | padawin | You can change that setting with tune2fs -m 0 /dev/sdXX |
| 23:18.28 | mountaingoat | padawin: my user definitely has 0 space, but after i ran sudo tune2fs -m 0, df reports 696M free space |
| 23:18.41 | padawin | but in some partitions, like / or /var, it is probably worth it to keep 5% reserved (the default) |
| 23:19.11 | padawin | my calculations are probably wrong, since that's not making sense |
| 23:19.52 | padawin | you're sure the block size is 4096? is that a 53GB partition? |
| 23:20.05 | padawin | (GiB) |
| 23:20.22 | mountaingoat | yes |
| 23:20.46 | mountaingoat | i am fine with 5% reserved, i am just trying to find an argument to resize2fs that will give my user ~700MB space |
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| 23:21.41 | mountaingoat | i increased the block count to 14975495, and now i have 1863MB free space |
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| 23:24.31 | padawin | ok... my calculations say that the block difference you added should've given you more 3.93 GB |
| 23:25.04 | padawin | this is not making sense to me, so it's dangerous to keep talking |
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| 23:25.11 | padawin | but is your problem solved, anyway? |
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| 23:26.23 | mountaingoat | padawin: i think so, if i resize with a 10% margin on resize2fs -P, i have space for the user, along with the reserved blocks |
| 23:27.02 | padawin | ok; I'm guessing the underlying block device is also adequately sized? |
| 23:27.14 | mountaingoat | padawin: but i'm still at a loss as to how one computes the target block size to give the user X amount of free space |
| 23:27.16 | padawin | (the partition where your filesystem is, or LVM volume, etc) |
| 23:27.34 | mountaingoat | padawin: yeah, the partition table specifies 128GB for this partition |
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| 23:28.25 | padawin | ok, so fdisk -l /dev/sdX gives you lots of sectors, which multiplied by the sector size gives you that value, right? |
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| 23:30.18 | padawin | can you paste the output of tune2fs -l? |
| 23:32.38 | mountaingoat | padawin: http://pastebin.com/WgBLkJz6 |
| 23:33.23 | mountaingoat | padawin: fdisk -l http://pastebin.com/qBwPM9AM |
| 23:33.31 | mountaingoat | padawin: this was after i resized it |
| 23:33.57 | mountaingoat | (referring to the tune2fs output), it was originally at 13945207 |
| 23:34.34 | padawin | your fdisk -l is incomplete, use it on /dev/mmcblk0 :) |
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| 23:41.06 | mountaingoat | padawin: http://pastebin.com/476g4DkR |
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| 23:44.59 | padawin | yup, I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but if someone knows, please tell me - I'm sure I'll level up on this |
| 23:45.37 | padawin | /dev/mmcblk0p2: 249778620 sectors, 512 bytes/sector, equals 119.1G |
| 23:45.54 | padawin | ah! right, you're arbitrarily resizing the filesystem, nevermind |
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| 23:47.28 | mountaingoat | padawin: yeah, the partition is more than enough, i'm just resizing around 50-60gb range |
| 23:48.24 | padawin | how much do you want to resize it to? |
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| 23:59.43 | mountaingoat | padawin: i want to resize it to X, such that a normal user would have Y free space |
